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Title: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2021, 10:03:24 PM

CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +

Last updated as of 20th January 2022

I am happy to keep this list as current and up to date as possible, so the first post on the first page can have the most current information with regard to which woodshop brands get their boards from.

Anything not on this list or changes that need to be made, please add info to this thread, so I can correct or add it to the list.

Previous woodshop threads here for historical reference:

2017 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95042.0

2018 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97940.0

2019 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103057.0

2020 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108595.0

2021 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115427.0

For 2022:

This is the current woodshop list with Brand in alphabetical order first, then by Woodshop second in the same post.

Note: For brands with multiple suppliers with a * after their name, any that have changed should have the older one with -2020 and the new one with 2021+ or something similar, which should make it easier to know which is the current supplier. Also for some continents / countries who have different suppliers, they will be shown with (EU) after the brand name.

Brand (Country) .... Woodshop

101 (Heritage) ………. ………. Dwindle
151 ………. ………. BBS
3Block ………. ………. Clutch
4 Skateboard Co (AU) ………. ………. Dwindle
5boro ………. ………. South Central
8five2 (HK) ………. ………. Dwindle
917* 2021+ ………. ………. BBS
917* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Adored ………. ………. BBS
Antiz (EU) ………. ………. China (unknown)
Alien Workshop* 2018+ ………. ………. BBS
Alien Workshop* -2018 ………. ………. PS Stix
Alien Workshop* (EU) ………. ………. Dwindle
Alltimers ………. ………. BBS
Almost ………. ………. Dwindle
Alva (specials) ………. ………. Watson
American Nomad ………. ………. Pennswood
Anno Domini ………. ………. Anno Domini
Antihero ………. ………. BBS
April ………. ………. BBS
Assault ………. ………. Watson
ATM* 2021+ ………. ………. BBS
ATM* -2020 ………. ………. Clutch
Bacon ………. ………. South Central
Baker ………. ………. BBS
Ballroom (EU) ………. ………. EGAL (EU)
Beer City ………. ………. Regulator
Birch ………. ………. Control
Birdhouse ………. ………. BBS
Black Label ………. ………. BBS
Black Label (specials) ………. ………. Watson
Blast (UK) ………. ………. Gnosis
Blind ………. ………. Dwindle
Blockhead ………. ………. Watson
Blood Wizard* 2021+ ………. ………. Clutch
Blood Wizard* -2020 ………. ………. PGI
Blue ………. ………. Prime
BLVD* 2020+ ………. ………. Clutch
BLVD* -2020 ………. ………. Woodchuck
Brujaria ………. ………. Clutch
Bryte ………. ………. Prime
Business & Company ………. ………. BBS
Buzzbomb ………. ………. Pennswood
Carpet Co. ………. ………. BBS
Cash Only ………. ………. BBS
Castle ………. ………. Prime
Chocolate ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Cleaver* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Cleaver* 2022 ………. ………. BBS
Cliche ………. ………. Dwindle
Clown (UK) ………. ………. Gnosis
Clubhouse ………. ………. Pennswood
Cockfight ………. ………. Pennswood
Coda* 2021+ ………. ………. Clutch
Coda* -2020 ………. ………. Pennswood
Colours Collectiv ………. ………. Dwindle
Consolidated ………. ………. PGI
Creature* ………. ………. Dwindle
Creature* 2021+ ………. ………. Excel
Cruzade ………. ………. HLC
D.O.A. DOA ………. ………. South Central
Darkroom ………. ………. BBS
Darkstar ………. ………. Dwindle
Dead-End ………. ………. Prime
Death ………. ………. Woodchuck
Deathwish ………. ………. BBS
DGK* Mostly ………. ………. BBS
DGK* 2021 Some ………. ………. Unknown (China)
Dieta ………. ………. South Central
Disorder ………. ………. PS Stix
DNA ………. ………. Pennswood
Dog Town* 2021+ ………. ………. PS Stix
Dogtown* (specials) ………. ………. Watson
Doom Sayers* 2021+ ………. ………. Unknown (China)
Doom Sayers* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020) ………. ………. PS Stix
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020) ………. ………. Clutch
Element* 2018+ ………. ………. BBS
Element* (until mid 2018) ………. ………. PS Stix
Element* (EU) ………. ………. HLC
Elenex ………. ………. Clutch
Embassy ………. ………. Clutch
Enjoi ………. ………. Dwindle
Evisen ………. ………. Dwindle
F.S.C. (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Fancy Lad ………. ………. Clutch
Finesse ………. ………. Woodchuck
Fixer ………. ………. Clutch
Fixer ………. ………. Prime
Flip* (Europe) ………. ………. HLC
Flip* -2020 (US) ………. ………. PS Stix
Flip* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Flip (Specials) ………. ………. Prime
Folklore (AU) ………. ………. Excel
Folklore Project -2019 ………. ………. Quincy
Fortress* ………. ………. Clutch
Fortress* 2021 ………. ………. Anno Domini
Foundation(pro models) ………. ………. PS Stix
Foundation* ………. ………. Watson
Foundation* (2020) ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Frog ………. ………. BBS
Frog (Specials) 2021 ………. ………. PS Stix
Fucking Awesome* 2020+ ………. ………. BBS
Fucking Awesome* til 2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
FUCT ………. ………. Dwindle
G&S (specials) ………. ………. Watson
GBAx ………. ………. Anno Domini
Girl* ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Girl* 2021 (some boards) ………. ………. PS Stix
Globe ………. ………. Dwindle
Glue ………. ………. PS Stix
Good Dudes ………. ………. Dwindle
GX1000 ………. ………. PS Stix
Habitat* 2018+ ………. ………. BBS
Habitat* -2018 ………. ………. PS Stix
Habitat* (Europe) ………. ………. HLC
Halloween Stickers ………. ………. South Central
Heritage ………. ………. South Central
Heritage (101) 2022 ………. ………. Dwindle
Heroin ………. ………. BBS
Hockey* 2020+ ………. ………. BBS
Hockey* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Hoddle ………. ………. BBS
Hook-Ups/JK Industries ………. ………. BBS
Hopps* 2022+ ………. ………. BBS
Hopps* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Hotel Blue ………. ………. Clutch
Housewife ………. ………. BBS
Huf* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
Huf* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Hux ………. ………. Anno Domini
Imperfects ………. ………. Watson
Into the Wild ………. ………. Dwindle
Isle* (US) ………. ………. BBS
Isle* (EU) ………. ………. HLC
Japan National* (AU) ………. ………. BBS
Japan National* (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Jart ………. ………. HLC
Junkadelic ………. ………. Pennswood
Krooked ………. ………. BBS
Lamebrain ………. ………. Clutch
Last Day ………. ………. South Central
Less Than Local ………. ………. Clutch
Lewis Cruise ………. ………. Clutch
Lifeblood ………. ………. PS Stix
Limosine ………. ………. BBS
Loser Machine* 2021+ ………. ………. BBS
Loser Machine* 2020 ………. ………. Clutch
Losers ATL* ………. ………. Woodchuck
Lost Soul ………. ………. Pennswood
Lotus Skateboards ………. ………. Pennswood
Love.Sick ………. ………. BBS
Lovenskate ………. ………. Pennswood
Lurkvillie ………. ………. Clutch
Madness ………. ………. Dwindle
Magenta* ………. ………. BBS
Magenta* 2021 ………. ………. Unknown (short run)
Maxallure* ………. ………. PGI
Maxallure* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Maxallure* (some) 2021 ………. ………. BBS
Meow* ………. ………. PS Stix
Meow* 2021 ………. ………. Dwindle
Merde ………. ………. BBS
Meridian* ………. ………. Clutch
Meridian* ………. ………. BBS
Monarch Project ………. ………. Dwindle
Moonshine ………. ………. Drifter
Morning Bell ………. ………. South Central
Natural Koncept ………. ………. PGI
Neighborhood ………. ………. Clutch
New Deal* Reimagined 2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
New Deal* Reissues 2021+ ………. ………. Dwindle
Nonexistent ………. ………. BBS
Northern Co.* ………. ………. South Central
Northern Co.* 2018+ ………. ………. Clutch
Numbers* ………. ………. BBS
Numbers* ………. ………. PS Stix
OdessaSexCult ………. ………. Pennswood
Open Skateboards ………. ………. Pennswood
Overland ………. ………. Anno Domini
Paisley ………. ………. PS Stix
Palace ………. ………. Dwindle
Pass-Port ………. ………. BBS
Permanent Vacation ………. ………. BBS
Picture Show* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Pizza* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Pizza* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Plan B (USA)* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Plan B* (Americas) ………. ………. Clutch
Plan B* (Europe) ………. ………. HLC
Platipus* ………. ………. BBS
Platipus* ………. ………. Clutch
Play ………. ………. Pennswood
Poetic Collective ………. ………. Control
Polar ………. ………. BBS
Politic ………. ………. South Central
Poolroom (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Powell ………. ………. Skate One
Powell Peralta ………. ………. Skate One
Premium ………. ………. Woodchuck
Primitive* (Euro 2020+) ………. ………. China (unknown)
Primitive* (US -2020) ………. ………. BBS
Primitive* (US 2021) ………. ………. USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Prisma ………. ………. Clutch
Program ………. ………. Clutch
Pure ………. ………. Woodchuck
Quasi* -2021 ………. ………. PS Stix
Quasi* 2021 specials ………. ………. BBS
Quasi* 2022 ………. ………. BBS
Rave (UK) ………. ………. Control
Raw Dog ………. ………. Clutch
Real ………. ………. BBS
Revive ………. ………. Woodchuck
RipNDip* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
RipNDip* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
RipNDip* 2022 ………. ………. USA (Unknown)
Roger* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Rosaline (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Saltrags ………. ………. Dwindle
Santa Cruz* ………. ………. Dwindle
Santa Cruz* 2021 ………. ………. Excel
Santa Monica Airlines SMA (Specials) ………. ………. Watson
Sci Fi Fantasy ………. ………. BBS
Scram* ………. ………. BBS
Scram* (limited run) ………. ………. Prime
Scram* (special edition) ………. ………. Watson
Scum Co.* ………. ………. PS Stix
Scum Co.* 2021 ………. ………. Control
Scum Co.* 2019+ ………. ………. Pennswood
Shake Junt (Baker) ………. ………. BBS
Shipyard Skates ………. ………. Pennswood
Shorty's* -2020 ………. ………. Prime
Shortys* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Sk8Mafia* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
Sk8Mafia* (Europe) ………. ………. HLC
Skate Mental* ………. ………. PS Stix
Skate Mental* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Skateboard Café ………. ………. HLC
Slave $lave ………. ………. BBS
Snack ………. ………. PS Stix
Sour ………. ………. HLC
SOVRN* (Europe) ………. ………. HLC
Space Program ………. ………. BBS
Spectrum ………. ………. Pennswood
Stereo (re-issue) ………. ………. Watson
Stereo* ………. ………. Clutch
Stereo* ………. ………. Prime
Sticks & Stones ………. ………. South Central
Strangelove ………. ………. PS Stix
Street Plant* (mostly) ………. ………. PS Stix
Street Plant* (some) ………. ………. Pennswood
Street Plant* (some) ………. ………. South Central
Studio ………. ………. Control
Super 8 ………. ………. South Central
Superior ………. ………. Dwindle
Supreme*2020+ ………. ………. BBS
Techne ………. ………. PS Stix
Techno & Co (AU) ………. ………. BBS
Terminal Four (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Terror of Planet X * 2021 TOPX ………. ………. Control
Terror of Planet X * 2019 TOPX ………. ………. BBS
Terror of Planet X* -2018 ………. ………. Quincy
Thames MMXX (UK) ………. ………. Dwindle
Thank You* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Thank You* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Thank You* 2021 ………. ………. Dwindle
The Heart Supply ………. ………. Dwindle
The Killing Floor* ………. ………. BBS
The National Skateboard Co. ………. ………. HLC
Theories* 2022+ ………. ………. BBS
Theories* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Thumbs NYC ………. ………. Control
Time (AU) ………. ………. Clutch
Tired* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Tired* ………. ………. PS Stix
Tired* ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Toy Machine* ………. ………. PS Stix
Toy Machine* ………. ………. BBS
Toy Machine* (EU/AU 2021) ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Traffic* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
Traffic* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
Transportation Unit* ………. ………. PS Stix
Uma Landsleds* All 2021+ ………. ………. BBS
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU first run only) ………. ………. Dwindle
Unity ………. ………. BBS
Vacation ………. ………. South Central
Vagrant ………. ………. PS Stix
Victoria (HK) ………. ………. Dwindle
Visit ………. ………. Clutch
Vow ………. ………. Clutch
Wayward (UK) ………. ………. Control
Weird Wood* 2016 ………. ………. Pennswood
Weird Wood* ………. ………. South Central
Welcome* 2021 ………. ………. BBS
Welcome* -2020 ………. ………. PS Stix
Western Addition ………. ………. PS Stix
Whisper ………. ………. Anno Domini
Wienerdog ………. ………. Anno Domini
Witchcraft ………. ………. BBS
WKND ………. ………. PS Stix
Wool ………. ………. Anno Domini
Worble * ………. ………. PS Stix
Worble * 2021 ………. ………. Clutch
World Industries* (specials) ………. ………. Prime
Yardsale (UK) ………. ………. BBS
Yes Fam (UK) ………. ………. Control
Zero* US 2021 ………. ………. BBS
Zero* 2020 ………. ………. Clutch
Zero* (EU/Asia -2020) ………. ………. Dwindle
Zero* (EU/Asia 2021) ………. ………. Dailan Huahong
Zoo York* -2020 ………. ………. Chapman
Zoo York* (EU) 2021 ………. ………. China (unknown)

*asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more woodshops (also different countries) and years active

BBS(bareback/generator):
151
917* 2021
Adored
Alien Workshop*
Alltimers
Antihero
April
ATM*
Baker
Birdhouse
Black Label
Business & Company
Carpet Co.
Cash Only
Cleaver*
Darkroom
Deathwish
DGK
Doom Sayers*
Element* 2018+
Fucking Awesome* 2020+
Frog*
Holiday* (AU) -2020
Habitat*
Heroin
Hockey* 2020+
Hoddle
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Hopps* 2019-2020, 2022+
Housewife
Huf* -2020
Isle* (US)
Japan National* (AU)
Krooked
Limosine
Loser Machine*
Love.Sick
Magenta
Maxallure* (some 2021)
Merde
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)
Nonexistent
Numbers*
Pass-Port
Permanent Vacation
Polar
Primitive* -2021
Quasi* specials 2021
Real
RipNDip* -2020
Sci Fi Fantasy
Scram*
Shake Junt (Baker)
Sk8Mafia* -2020
Slave $lave*
Space Program
Supreme* 2020+
Techno & Co (AU)
Terror of Planet X * 2019 TOPX
The Killing Floor*
Theories* -2020, 2022+
Toy Machine* 2021
Traffic* -2020
Uma Landsleds*
Unity
Welcome* 2021
Witchcraft
Yardsale (UK)
Zero* 2021

P.S. Stix:
917* -2020
Alien Workshop*
Braille
Dog Town*
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)
Disorder
Element* -2018
Freedome*
Frog (Special shapes only) 2020-21
Fucking Awesome* -2020
Flip* -2020 (US)
Foundation* (pro models)
Girl* 2021 (some boards)
Glue
GX1000
Habitat*
Hockey* -2020
Lifeblood
Meow*
New Deal* Reimagined
Numbers*
Paisley
Pizza* -2020
Plan B* (USA) -2020
Quasi*
Saltrags
Scum Co.*
Skate Mental*
Snack
Strangelove
Street Plant* (mostly)
Techne
Thank You* -2020
Tired*
Toy Machine*
Transportation Unit*
Vagrant
Welcome* (USA) -2020
Western Addition
WKND
Worble*

Clutch / ASF:
3Block
ATM*
BLVD*
Blood Wizard* 2021+
Brujaria
Cleaver* 2021
Coda* 2021
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)
Elenex
Embassy
F.S.C. (AU)
Fancy Lad
Fixer
Flip* 2021+
Fortress*
Freedome*
Holiday* (AU) 2021
Hopps* 2021
Hotel Blue
Huf* 2020+
Japan National* (AU)
Lamebrain
Less Than Local
Lewis Cruise
Loser Machine*
Lurkville
Maxallure* 2021
Meridian*
Neighborhood
Northern Co.* 2018+
Picture Show* 2021
Pizza* 2021
Plan B* (Americas)
Platipus
Poolroom (AU)
Prisma
Program
Raw Dog
Revive
RipNDip* 2021
Roger* 2021
Rosaline (AU)
Shortys* 2021
Skate Mental* 2021
Stereo
Terminal Four (AU)
Thank You* 2021
Theories* 2021
Time (AU) 2020
Tired* 2021
Traffic* 2021
Visit
Vow
Worble* 2021
Zero* 2020

Dwindle(DSM):
101 (Heritage)
4 Skateboard Co (AU)
8five2 (HK)
Alien Workshop* (EU)
Almost
Blind
Cliche
Colours Collectiv
Creature*
Darkstar
Enjoi
Evisen
FUCT
Globe
Good Dudes
Heritage (101)
Into the Wild
Madness
Meow* 2021
Monarch Project
New Deal* Reissues
Nomad Skateboards
Palace
Santa Cruz*
Superior
Thames MMXX (UK)
Thank You* 2021
The Heart Supply
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU - 2021 first run only)
Victoria (HK)
Zero* (EU/Asia) -2020

HLC:
Cruzade
Element* (EU)
Flip* (Europe)
Habitat* (Europe) -2020
Isle* (EU)
Jart
Plan B* (all 2021)
Sk8Mafia* (Europe)
Skateboard Café
Sour
SOVRN* (Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.

Control:
Birch
Poetic Collective
Rave (UK)
Scum Co.*
Studio
Terror of Planet X * 2021 TOPX
Thumbs NYC
Wayward (UK)
Yes Fam (UK)

Pennswood:
American Nomad
Buzzbomb
Clubhouse
Cockfight
Coda* -2020
DNA
Junkadelic
Lost Soul
Lotus Skateboards
Lovenskate (UK)
OdessaSexCult
Open Skateboards
Play
Scum Co.* (logo decks 2019+)
Shipyard Skates
Spectrum
Street Plant* (some)
Weird Wood* 2016

South Central:
5boro
Bacon
D.O.A (DOA / Dead on Arrival)
Dieta
Halloween Stickers
Heritage
Last Day
Morning Bell
Northern Co.*
Politic
Sticks & Stones
Street Plant* (some)
Super 8
Vacation
Weird Wood*

Watson:
Alva (specials)
Assault
Black Label* (specials)
Blockhead
Dogtown* (specials)
Foundation*
G&S (specials)
Imperfects
Santa Monica Airlines SMA (Specials)
Scram* (special edition)
Stereo (re-issue)
Yeah Dude

Prime:
Blue
Bryte
Castle
Dead-End
Fixer
Flip (specials 2021)
Scram* (limited run)
Shorty's* -2020
Stereo*
World Industries* (specials)

Woodchuck:
BLVD*
Death
Finesse
Losers ATL*
Premium
Pure
Revive

Drifter:
Atlantic
Dilemma
Dirty
Lunchbreak
Lurking Class
Moonshine
Thumbs NYC

Gnosis:
Blast (UK)
Clown (UK)

Skate One:
Powell Peralta
Powell

Select Skate:
Elephant Brand
Hosoi
Magic
Schmitt Stix
Shuvit
Vision
Willys Workshop

Regulator:
Beer City

Excel:
Creature* 2021
Folklore (AU)
Santa Cruz* 2021

Anno Domini Manufacturing AD :
Anno Domini
Fortress*
GBAx
Hux
Overland
Whisper
Wienerdog
Wool

Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate*
Foundation*
Girl*
Skate Mental*
Tired*
Toy Machine*
Zero* (AU 2021)

PGI (China):
ATM* 2018
Blood Wizard* -2020
Consolidated
Maxallure
Natural Koncept

China (unknown):
Antiz (EU)
BDSkateco
Finesse
Preduce (TH)
Roller Horror
Santai (MY)

DGK* (2021)
Foundation* (2020)
Primitive* (2020+)
Toy Machine* (2020)
Zero* AU / Euro (2021)
Zoo York (EU) 2021

Alien Workshop* (price point boards?)
Element* (price point boards?)
Plan B* (price point boards?)
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)

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Chapman (not currently manufacturing decks, but said to be using Clutch wood):
Adult Inc -2020
Supreme* -2020
Zoo York - 2020

Quincy (closed 2019):
Folklore Project
Lurkville
Space Program
Terror of Planet X* -2018 TOPX

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 01:23:30 AM

Current Woodshop Directory second post woodshop information

This can stand as a separate list to the main brand list under each woodshop.

If there are any, big or small around, please let me know and I can add them to this list as well.

BBS / Generator (est 1996)
Mexico
http://bbsmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/bbsmfg/
https://www.instagram.com/generatorskateboardistribution/

PS Stix - Paul Schmitt (est 1987)
Mexico
www.psstix.com
https://www.instagram.com/PSstix/

Clutch / ASF (est 2004)
Mexico
https://www.clutchdistribution.com/popsicle.html
https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

Dwindle - Chop chop wood shop (est 2002)
China
https://dwindle.com/
https://www.instagram.com/dwindledistribution/

HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

Pennswood (est 1996)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/pennswood/

South Central (est 1992)
USA
http://www.skateboardmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/southcentralwoodshop/

Watson Laminates (est 1975)
USA
http://watsonlaminates.com/
https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/

Prime (est 1968)
USA
https://www.primewood.la/
https://www.instagram.com/primewood.la/

Control (est 1995)
Canada
http://www.controlmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/controlmfg/

Woodchuck (est 1996)
Canada
https://woodchucklaminates.com/
https://www.instagram.com/woodchucklaminates/

Factory13 (est 1999)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/factory13skateboards/

Legend (est 1994)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/legend_skateboards/

Drifter (est 1999)
USA
http://www.drifterskate.com/
https://www.instagram.com/drifterskateboardmfg/

Project Skateboards (est 2003)
South Africa
http://projectskateboards.co.za/
https://www.instagram.com/projectskateboards/

Custom Skateboards (est 1999)
USA
https://www.customskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/customskateboard/

Anno Domini (est 2020)
USA
https://www.adskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/adskateboards

Madrid Skateboard Factory (est 1976)
USA
https://www.madridskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/madridskateboards/

Sk8 Factory (est 2001)
USA
https://sk8factory.com/

Carver & Stone Limited LLC.
USA
www.carverandstone.com
https://www.instagram.com/carverandstone/

Quincy (2012 - 2019)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/quincywoodwrights/
(CLOSED)

Chapman (est 1991)
USA
http://www.chapmanskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/chapmanskateboards/
(No longer making boards / using Clutch wood)

Gnosis (est 2018)
UK
https://www.gnosismfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/gnosismfg/

A Third Foot (closed)
UK
https://www.instagram.com/athirdfootskateboards/

Cape Town Skates (est 2018)
UK
https://www.instagram.com/capetownskates/

Karate Wood Chop (est 2020)
Netherlands
https://www.karatewoodchop.com
https://www.instagram.com/karatewoodchop/

Skate One (est 1976)
USA*
Now with factories in China and production in Mexico
https://www.skateone.com/
https://www.instagram.com/skateonecorp/

Select Skate (est 1976)
USA
http://www.selectsk8.com/
https://www.instagram.com/selectdistribution/

IBL Skateboards
Brazil
https://www.instagram.com/iblskateboards/

Ecological Skateboard-Distribution (est 2015)
Germany
http://egal-skateboards.de/woodshop/
https://www.instagram.com/esb_woodshop/

Nibiru Skateboards Workshop
Poland
nibiru-skateboards.com
https://www.instagram.com/nibiruskateboards/

Locals Skateboards Manufacture
Poland
sklep.localsskateboards.com
https://www.instagram.com/locals_skateboards_mfg/

INCLU Skateboards
Germany
https://www.pfennigparade.de/
https://www.instagram.com/inclu_skateboards/

CRS Skateboard Factory
Hungary
http://www.sk8boardfactory.com/

Cirus
Hungary
http://cirus.hu/main

BerlinBoardsBrewery
Germany
https://bbb.manifactu.re/
https://www.instagram.com/berlinboardsbrewery/

2Hex
China
https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/

Huizhou Excel (est 2004)
China
https://matchory.com/supplier/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods

Zhongshan Jeeping Wooden Industrial (est 2000)
China
https://matchory.com/supplier/zhongshan-jeeping-wooden-industrial

Dailan Huahong (est 2006)
China
https://14946543.en.ec21.com/
www.huahongsports.cn

FYS Board (est 1997)
China
https://www.fysboard.com/

Guandong Xinda (Foxen) Sporting Goods Co (est 2001)
China
http://www.skateboardequipments.com/
https://www.instagram.com/xindaskateboardfactory/

PGI
China

Manufacturers / Woodshops that DO NOT make their own boards but resell others list:

Chapman (using Clutch wood)
USA
http://www.chapmanskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/chapmanskateboards/

Wholesale Skateboard dot com
USA
https://wholesaleskateboard.com/

American Gear Company
USA
https://www.americangearcompany.com/
https://www.instagram.com/americangearco/

Whatever Skateboards
USA
https://www.whateverskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/whateverskateboards/

MDCN Distribution
Germany
https://www.mdcn-dist.net/
https://www.instagram.com/mdcndist/

Quarter Distribution
Germany
https://quarterdist.com/
https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/

Artprint Europe
France
https://www.artprinteurope.com
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/artprinteurope/

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Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 01:52:40 AM

The third and last post will be an accumulated list of information with pics of various woodshops markings, so they are all in the one place.

Note this will be changing as brands and woodshops update their information but I will try to copy relevant pics to here in this post so they are all in the one place and people don't have to look through all the previous threads or the 30+ pages of information.

This will take some time, so I hope to have this going within a week.

From April 2021:

I have been compiling some (info and pics) which would make it a whole lot easier for some people to reference and then be able to work out what the boards were, but I think there will still be a lot of others or generic boards with similar stickers on them so people could get confused and not know.

Eg

Clutch - usually (but not always) has a letter and a number stamped into the wood around the front bolt holes, then often the size in a dot sticker often over the stamp, or right beside it.

PS Stix - always has some sort of laser engraving information but mainly has SN# PS 39383837 type of info, which is the identifying info of that particular deck, the warning sticker usually higher up on the nose.

BBS - harder to tell with no sticker (unless it has Generator sticker) but often just a dot imprint around front bolts area and sometimes laser engraving for the specific brand, if not "Built by BBS" and size info, sometimes the warning sticker over the bolts, but usually just above the bolts. More recently they also have a smaller holographic sticker around the back bolts are with BBS on it. Warning sticker usually has "Made in Mexico" on it.

Dwindle - laser engraving with serial number, size, brand info under the front bolts area, not between the front bolt holes.

Control - red white maple leaf sticker in between front bolts.

HLC - laser engraving with info on the deck, more often under the front bolts, but usually lower down closer to the back bolts in the middle area. Sometimes has "Made in Europe" or similar words.

Generic manufacturer in China - usually just the size of the deck either between front bolts, just under it, or from another place, on the top or bottom under the back bolts, usually a bigger font.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 19, 2021, 03:28:26 AM

Thank you sir.

A fine list

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: sammyz on March 19, 2021, 03:50:21 AM

Thank you mate...this is great, sorting by alphabet is perfect!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: munchbox on March 19, 2021, 05:34:27 AM

great work, this info should have always been centralized to one thread

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 19, 2021, 05:55:00 AM

Such a great resource!
Welcome is now BBS, doom sayers is clutch no?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Gary Bucket on March 19, 2021, 06:14:58 AM

Always a great reference, especially now with the pandemic.

I’ve definitely noticed differences between AH and Krooked boards of the same shape and size, and maybe a quality difference from those brands to Hopps and Traffic. Is there a good explanation for this?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: LewFarrell on March 19, 2021, 06:20:06 AM

ROGER - Clutch
EXOSHOP (Canadian shop) - Clutch

And muy shalom, the 2021 was lame. We need progress in the woodshop monitoring business.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on March 19, 2021, 06:36:12 AM

You sir are the mvp

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: z_tx on March 19, 2021, 07:03:51 AM

shorty's is using clutch, not prime

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Staggerd on March 19, 2021, 07:12:41 AM

For what it's worth, Civil (RI, USA local shop) uses Clutch for their shop decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 19, 2021, 07:21:39 AM

Thanks for taking the time to put this together!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on March 19, 2021, 07:29:08 AM

Brimmo, you are a the man.
Putting this together should earn you a nomination for POTY 2021.
Please enjoy a whole bowl of shalom for your breakfast, and thank you for the effort.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 07:36:07 AM

Quote from: Lou Strux on March 19, 2021, 07:29:08 AM

Brimmo, you are a the man.
Putting this together should earn you a nomination for POTY 2021.
Please enjoy a whole bowl of shalom for your breakfast, and thank you for the effort.

It is funny though - I hear and I see only so much, but I am also an organiser and a pedantic one at that, so from seeing all the loose ends and no real structure, I just snapped and put more than a bit of thought into it before going ahead, but it is pretty easy.

I have an excel sheet I paste the first post into, then sort and get it all right, then paste it back into the first and third post, so it is not that hard, but more than anything, I just hope everyone posts any updates or changes to things in here, so I can keep checking and updating them, so we have a concise and current list.

No ego, nothing crazy (apart from skateboard madness) and just trying to make sure it is done right.

That is the way I see it anyway.

If it can help, then I am all for doing it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: backinaction on March 19, 2021, 08:51:14 AM

Street Plant also using South Central, Pennswood and Factory 13

Mike V on instagram:
"We still get most of our Boards from #PSstix, but we also work with a few other manufacturers in the USA as well: South Central, @factory13skateboards , and @pennswood. Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM

We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 19, 2021, 10:34:55 AM

@Mbrimson88 is the hero this subforum needs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on March 19, 2021, 10:41:39 AM

@Mbrimson88 unless anyone has intel specifically to the contrary, I think Chapman should be removed from the list or at least the brands should be asterisk'd. Their woodshop closed a couple years ago and AFAIK they have just been screening graphics on Clutch-pressed boards. I have handled a few recent "Chapman" blanks that were Clutch for sure.

Quote from: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM

We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.

I am pretty sure it has been posted elsewhere that Theories, Picture Show, and Hopps have been using Clutch to have some of their stuff pressed since COVID. Haven't skated or handled any and cannot confirm.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Fat Tire on March 19, 2021, 10:45:16 AM

Thanks for this, you're the man

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on March 19, 2021, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on March 19, 2021, 10:41:39 AM

@Mbrimson88 unless anyone has intel specifically to the contrary, I think Chapman should be removed from the list or at least the brands should be asterisk'd. Their woodshop closed a couple years ago and AFAIK they have just been screening graphics on Clutch-pressed boards. I have handled a few recent "Chapman" blanks that were Clutch for sure.

Quote from: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM
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We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.
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I am pretty sure it has been posted elsewhere that Theories, Picture Show, and Hopps have been using Clutch to have some of their stuff pressed since COVID. Haven't skated or handled any and cannot confirm.

The Theories deck I’m currently on def appears to be Clutch based on wood grain & my limited experience w/ Clutch, but I’m not 100% on that.
Y’all be sure to throw a gnar at Brimmo for undertaking this task.
You’re a good egg, @Mbrimson88.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BoxStuffer on March 19, 2021, 11:11:19 AM

Thank you @Mbrimson88 !!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 19, 2021, 11:44:39 AM

Quote from: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM

We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.

Blood Wizard was never BBS, it was PGI which some people mistake for bbs since they sometimes have the alignment divot in the same place. Latest run is clutch.

Doom sayers is a bit of a mess... At the moment there's BBS, Clutch, and even some PS Stix snake shakes on the market.

Toy machine is mostly back to PS but messy too.. theres still clutch, bbs, and mystery China wood floating around so still best to ask and remember that both clutch and bbs are Mexico so the "made in Mexico" on the dimensions sticker doesn't mean PS. PS will always have the serial number etched. I also saw some OG monsters and Foundation ovals popping up again, not sure if they're leftover Watson (or a new Watson run) or they're running those graphics through other shops now.

Things are starting to get back a bit closer to normal - PS and BBS both seem to be back up and running at close to full steam but there's a huge backlog of orders to get through. I've been told PS is booked through the end of 2021. Also heard that some smaller shops are having trouble getting veneer which is delaying things but I'm not sure how serious that is.

Unfortunately a lot of this list is still out of date and incorrect regardless of how its organized. Kinda a fundamental issue with crowd sourcing info I suppose. I've been really busy with real life lately but I will correct as much of it as I can when I have time.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 11:54:53 AM

Quote from: Lou Strux on March 19, 2021, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on March 19, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
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@Mbrimson88 unless anyone has intel specifically to the contrary, I think Chapman should be removed from the list or at least the brands should be asterisk'd. Their woodshop closed a couple years ago and AFAIK they have just been screening graphics on Clutch-pressed boards. I have handled a few recent "Chapman" blanks that were Clutch for sure.

Quote from: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM
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We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.
[close]

I am pretty sure it has been posted elsewhere that Theories, Picture Show, and Hopps have been using Clutch to have some of their stuff pressed since COVID. Haven't skated or handled any and cannot confirm.
[close]
The Theories deck I’m currently on def appears to be Clutch based on wood grain & my limited experience w/ Clutch, but I’m not 100% on that.
Y’all be sure to throw a gnar at Brimmo for undertaking this task.
You’re a good egg, @Mbrimson88.

Yup, Theories has definitely done a bunch of Clutch decks, I can confirm that as we have them at the shop too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lukabrazi on March 19, 2021, 12:50:34 PM

Supreme decks are now BBS according to a few of the most recent ones (some local likes to come to my shop and show me that he purchases supreme decks )

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: munchbox on March 19, 2021, 02:42:30 PM

hold this gnar @Mbrimson88

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 06:41:06 PM

List 1 is updated with all that information to now.

Chapman moved below the line.

Also just curious, as a lot of people would like to know where shop boards come from, would people think this is of interest, more as a separate list in maybe the third post, after the brands list. I feel that it would cheapen the major board brand list, but I definitely think it should be in there somewhere, rather than a separate thread, or left unknown.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ish_wav on March 20, 2021, 07:11:40 AM

Flip (at least what I’ve seen) is Clutch now, or we’re using it for a bit.

If anyone cares at all, Revive and 3Block also use Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Carter on March 20, 2021, 07:39:28 AM

anyone know is business and company have the more squares shovel nose shape or more pointy? thinking of trying one out since the wknd 8.25 ct hasn't been in stock for a minute

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: z_tx on March 20, 2021, 07:55:43 AM

Quote from: Carter on March 20, 2021, 07:39:28 AM

anyone know is business and company have the more squares shovel nose shape or more pointy? thinking of trying one out since the wknd 8.25 ct hasn't been in stock for a minute

it's very similar to the 8.25 CT

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Carter on March 20, 2021, 08:09:30 AM

Quote from: z_tx on March 20, 2021, 07:55:43 AM

Quote from: Carter on March 20, 2021, 07:39:28 AM
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anyone know is business and company have the more squares shovel nose shape or more pointy? thinking of trying one out since the wknd 8.25 ct hasn't been in stock for a minute
[close]

it's very similar to the 8.25 CT

thanks bud!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: OldCandy on March 20, 2021, 10:06:32 AM

god poster

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Ok on March 20, 2021, 10:31:51 AM

Quote from: Carter on March 20, 2021, 08:09:30 AM

Quote from: z_tx on March 20, 2021, 07:55:43 AM
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Quote from: Carter on March 20, 2021, 07:39:28 AM
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anyone know is business and company have the more squares shovel nose shape or more pointy? thinking of trying one out since the wknd 8.25 ct hasn't been in stock for a minute
[close]

it's very similar to the 8.25 CT
[close]
thanks bud!

To follow up: how’d it be on ventures? Haven’t seen that ct shape available for a bit....iso short, short wb, ventures compatible.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Reed Richards on March 20, 2021, 10:52:13 AM

Re: Hopps, I emailed them in 2019 and was told that All Hopps decks are bonded at out their warehouse on Long Island, NY but are on Generator wood. Traffic, Isle, Magenta and Theories decks are also all bonded on generator wood. But then I bought the Jahmal Williams Dreamer deck, and saw this stamped.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qf0vbZs/IMG-7837.jpg)
Hope this helps somewhat.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 20, 2021, 03:08:57 PM

@Mbrimson88 thanks for updating and reorganizing the list. It’s a god send. Any chance you used to be on the MAS board before? Think I recognize your user name.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Escape Hell on March 20, 2021, 03:51:06 PM

Quote from: Reed Richards on March 20, 2021, 10:52:13 AM

Re: Hopps, I emailed them in 2019 and was told that All Hopps decks are bonded at out their warehouse on Long Island, NY but are on Generator wood. Traffic, Isle, Magenta and Theories decks are also all bonded on generator wood. But then I bought the Jahmal Williams Dreamer deck, and saw this stamped.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qf0vbZs/IMG-7837.jpg)
Hope this helps somewhat.

Bought a few Fancy Lad decks and they are stamped
7 C. Are these clutch blanks being screened at Chapman?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Dwyck on March 20, 2021, 05:30:33 PM

Any know what the deal is with DLX price points (e.g. the Antihero 'Copier Eagle' boards). Are they BBS too? And if so, are they just made different?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2021, 06:56:24 PM

Quote from: Dwyck on March 20, 2021, 05:30:33 PM

Any know what the deal is with DLX price points (e.g. the Antihero 'Copier Eagle' boards). Are they BBS too? And if so, are they just made different?

Quote from: lazer69 on March 20, 2021, 03:55:55 PM

why do the krroked $40 decks with eyeballs all over print suck so much?

The shape is good but it just feels so hollow. I bought 2, the first one lost pop so quick, im sure the 2nd will as well.

As said in the other thread, they are the pricepoint decks, which are a cheaper version of the same shapes and concaves, all DLX seem to be the same be it Krooked, Antihero or Real (renewal) decks. Made by BBS still, but way different in how they hold up, from how long they last to how easily they break, when compared to pro wood.

I have found that the ones that have all natural ply layers often just do not hold up compared to even the ones with the one top colour, so for anyone who goes hard on their board, or breaks boards, I would stay with the pro wood and not the pricepoint decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2021, 07:02:17 PM

Quote from: Escape Hell on March 20, 2021, 03:51:06 PM

Quote from: Reed Richards on March 20, 2021, 10:52:13 AM
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Re: Hopps, I emailed them in 2019 and was told that All Hopps decks are bonded at out their warehouse on Long Island, NY but are on Generator wood. Traffic, Isle, Magenta and Theories decks are also all bonded on generator wood. But then I bought the Jahmal Williams Dreamer deck, and saw this stamped.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qf0vbZs/IMG-7837.jpg)
Hope this helps somewhat.
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Bought a few Fancy Lad decks and they are stamped
7 C. Are these clutch blanks being screened at Chapman?

That stamp is Clutch, and it would seem that Clutch has been supplying most second tier brands and distributors (and even other woodshops) who put graphic heat transfers on boards that used to come from / now could not get wood from BBS / Generator during the shortages with the pandemic.

I will amend the listings accordingly with * 2021 for those brands.

Thanks for the info. :)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on March 20, 2021, 10:11:43 PM

YES! RESPECT!
...now any feedback, info, on quality of boards from said mfgs. would be the icing; like wood source, glues/epoxy, stiffness, pop/durability, warpage, concaves, press style, etc..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2021, 03:15:32 AM

All info now up to date as far as I can tell, lists sorted, etc.

Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Visual

Colours Collectiv (which also has carbon top, so I am thinking Dwindle / Excel China for wood)

https://concrete-visionary.com/product/colours-collectiv-rocket-girl-carbon-fiber-skateboard-deck/

https://super-shop.com/i269447-colours-collectiv-kelvin-hoefler-deck-yamada-crossing-borders

ATM

Beer City Skateboards

Vision (reissues)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 24, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Quote from: michael scarn on March 24, 2021, 12:32:07 PM

I'm wondering, has anybody ridden a cafe deck?

I like the graphics a lot, but curious about the shape.

Looked some up as I don't recall the name, but they come up as Skateboard Cafe and are said to be pressed by Dwindle and seem to be fairly standard shapes and sizes.

This shop has really good views, both top and bottom in clear detail:

https://www.slamcity.com/collections/skateboard-cafe

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/skateboard-cafe-deck-skateboard-cafe-8-125-flower-basket-skateboard-deck-white-pink-14797620150342_960x960_crop_center.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on March 24, 2021, 07:28:11 PM

Some notes.

Finesse is done by progress dist, which I think gets their wood from China. I asked progress what wood they use and didn’t get a response.

Other notable brands from progress are roller horror, Willy workshop

Also,

Drifter, legend & AD are smaller us skateboard mfg that can be added to to the list. Legend makes h street and plan b reissues. Drifters biggest brand i think is moonshine

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: munchbox on March 24, 2021, 08:02:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 24, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Quote from: michael scarn on March 24, 2021, 12:32:07 PM
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I'm wondering, has anybody ridden a cafe deck?

I like the graphics a lot, but curious about the shape.
[close]

Looked some up as I don't recall the name, but they come up as Skateboard Cafe and are said to be pressed by Dwindle and seem to be fairly standard shapes and sizes.

This shop has really good views, both top and bottom in clear detail:

https://www.slamcity.com/collections/skateboard-cafe

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/skateboard-cafe-deck-skateboard-cafe-8-125-flower-basket-skateboard-deck-white-pink-14797620150342_960x960_crop_center.jpg)

been searching for wb on their 8.75 shape with no luck. being that its dwindle id hope its the same as the creature stumps/sc boats but i could be horribly wrong.

never seen one in the wild cause i would definitely just measure it myself

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: JugeL on March 24, 2021, 11:51:55 PM

My Cafe last summer was definitely hlc. 14.2 wheelbase on 8.75

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Shifty Flip on March 25, 2021, 06:51:38 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/pZ7WCgL/16166796141691134598901622217487.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pZ7WCgL)

(https://i.ibb.co/b1MK3WL/16166796893471309613868982950566.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b1MK3WL)

Setting up this Real Skate Shop now. Saw the heat transfer was cracked straight down the middle from nose to tail. Felt it and there's a depression an inch wide as well. Roman Numeral skate within sticker. No corrupted ply of course. 44 bucks I didn't expect much. The 8.25 is wider than the 8.5 which is funny. Will check the krooked price point next time because I'm pretty sure it has a stained bottom ply.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 25, 2021, 07:33:44 AM

Quote from: Shifty Flip on March 25, 2021, 06:51:38 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/pZ7WCgL/16166796141691134598901622217487.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pZ7WCgL)

(https://i.ibb.co/b1MK3WL/16166796893471309613868982950566.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b1MK3WL)

Setting up this Real Skate Shop now. Saw the heat transfer was cracked straight down the middle from nose to tail. Felt it and there's a depression an inch wide as well. Roman Numeral skate within sticker. No corrupted ply of course. 44 bucks I didn't expect much. The 8.25 is wider than the 8.5 which is funny. Will check the krooked price point next time because I'm pretty sure it has a stained bottom ply.

Tbh I'd skip the krooked pp and get a tactics shop deck or something instead. I rode a pp deck late last year and setup a tactics one recently and there's a significant difference in quality.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FredGallsBallz on March 25, 2021, 07:46:57 AM

I just finished skating the second of two Primitive decks I bought late last year. A PRod and a Spencer Hamilton. Both had made in China stickers. Anyone know what shop? For the record both were excellent decks and stayed poppy for a good length of time.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 25, 2021, 04:37:53 PM

Quote from: FredGallsBallz on March 25, 2021, 07:46:57 AM

I just finished skating the second of two Primitive decks I bought late last year. A PRod and a Spencer Hamilton. Both had made in China stickers. Anyone know what shop? For the record both were excellent decks and stayed poppy for a good length of time.

Where are you?

US and here in AU seem to be BBS, but EU seems to be something else (China) but I haven't seen pics or anything else.

I am thinking it could be the same as the newer Girl / Chocolate woodshop now, as they seem to be making good boards, certainly different to a couple of other woodshops from China that seem to have terrible concave and shapes.

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Post by: MusclesMarinara on March 25, 2021, 08:46:12 PM

Been looking at some primitive decks as well. Mostly the 8.0's but I kind of want to hold out to see if a 7.8 will show up in a drop or hopefully a Rodrigo announcement? , as they have put them out before. Sucks because of the resellers it's hard to find one just to ride, I don't want Goku on my fucking wall.

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Post by: FredGallsBallz on March 26, 2021, 06:04:14 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 25, 2021, 04:37:53 PM

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I just finished skating the second of two Primitive decks I bought late last year. A PRod and a Spencer Hamilton. Both had made in China stickers. Anyone know what shop? For the record both were excellent decks and stayed poppy for a good length of time.
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Where are you?

US and here in AU seem to be BBS, but EU seems to be something else (China) but I haven't seen pics or anything else.

I am thinking it could be the same as the newer Girl / Chocolate woodshop now, as they seem to be making good boards, certainly different to a couple of other woodshops from China that seem to have terrible concave and shapes.

I’m in the US. I ordered the boards directly from Primitive. Off topic -- the free Primitive grip with the flag cutout was great. I’d skate it all the time if I could.

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Post by: moonordie on March 27, 2021, 10:29:40 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on March 25, 2021, 08:46:12 PM

Been looking at some primitive decks as well. Mostly the 8.0's but I kind of want to hold out to see if a 7.8 will show up in a drop or hopefully a Rodrigo announcement? , as they have put them out before. Sucks because of the resellers it's hard to find one just to ride, I don't want Goku on my fucking wall.

TX on Primitive? That would be sick

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Post by: fernando the skater on April 02, 2021, 01:12:08 AM

Another one from Watson.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNJOuU_FPtW/

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Post by: j....soy..... on April 02, 2021, 07:34:00 AM

Sick....I almost bought a Yeah Dude because I thought it was BBS.....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 02, 2021, 08:45:59 AM

Quote from: JugeL on March 24, 2021, 11:51:55 PM

My Cafe last summer was definitely hlc. 14.2 wheelbase on 8.75

Thank you - changed in the list.

Quote from: fernando the skater on April 02, 2021, 01:12:08 AM

Another one from Watson.

Thank you - added to the list.

Quote from: TwisT on March 24, 2021, 07:28:11 PM

Some notes.

Finesse is done by progress dist, which I think gets their wood from China. I asked progress what wood they use and didn’t get a response.

Other notable brands from progress are roller horror, Willy workshop

Also,

Drifter, legend & AD are smaller us skateboard mfg that can be added to to the list. Legend makes h street and plan b reissues. Drifters biggest brand i think is moonshine

Thank you!

I have updated some others I have heard of or seen recently, but I think there are still some I am yet to find or add. The interesting thing too is that some boards seem to have generic sizes laser printed and no manufacturing info which appear to be from somewhere in China, but as yet, no one wants to say where they are from, so I feel like adding a line with something like this:

Unknown / China:
Finesse
Roller Horror
Willys Workshop

Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Visual
Colours Collectiv (which also has carbon top, so I am thinking Dwindle / Excel China for wood)
ATM
Beer City Skateboards
Vision (reissues)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on April 05, 2021, 09:42:35 AM

For what it’s worth

(https://i.ibb.co/B3JXb9p/62-E3501-A-B65-F-4-D6-E-92-A6-E1-EE8-F786-F56.png) (https://ibb.co/B3JXb9p)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 05, 2021, 05:30:38 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on April 05, 2021, 09:42:35 AM

For what it’s worth

BBS and others is a good answer.

Puts them in the "good woodshop" category, but with covid maybe they got their supply stopped like many other brands.

Thank you!

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Post by: Eric Dolphy on April 12, 2021, 03:58:42 PM

Can someone tell me what woodshop this is from? It's a Pizza deck, ordered it expecting the same shape and dims as the Quasi/WKND shape i usually ride, because the measurements on the website are the same and the description says PS Stix but the measurements don't match up and this is not the usual PS top ply laser etching.

Cheers

(https://i.ibb.co/WFwQ7W7/dav.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NpPXf6f)
(https://imgbb.com/).

Edit: just scrolled up and saw the HOPPS board with same stamp and sticker. Guess you can add Pizza to the list of companies using Clutch, or add PS Stix to the list of companies subcontracting to Clutch. Lame.

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Post by: ManimalChin on April 12, 2021, 07:04:33 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 02, 2021, 08:45:59 AM

Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Vision (reissues)

They (allegedly) make their own boards in Costa Mesa, still. Along with Schmitt Stix, Hosoi, Elephant, Honey (longboards) and a couple others. I wish they would go back to silk screening.

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Post by: TwisT on April 12, 2021, 07:15:25 PM

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I just finished skating the second of two Primitive decks I bought late last year. A PRod and a Spencer Hamilton. Both had made in China stickers. Anyone know what shop? For the record both were excellent decks and stayed poppy for a good length of time.
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Where are you?

US and here in AU seem to be BBS, but EU seems to be something else (China) but I haven't seen pics or anything else.

I am thinking it could be the same as the newer Girl / Chocolate woodshop now, as they seem to be making good boards, certainly different to a couple of other woodshops from China that seem to have terrible concave and shapes.
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I’m in the US. I ordered the boards directly from Primitive. Off topic -- the free Primitive grip with the flag cutout was great. I’d skate it all the time if I could.

One of My locals has a whole stack of primitive decks and completes. All logo boards that say made in China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2021, 09:46:09 PM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 12, 2021, 07:04:33 PM

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Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Vision (reissues)
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They (allegedly) make their own boards in Costa Mesa, still. Along with Schmitt Stix, Hosoi, Elephant, Honey (longboards) and a couple others. I wish they would go back to silk screening.

Thanks.

I recall reading about it somewhere but just couldn't remember the name of the woodshop or where they were actually made. I guess it is not a big deal really, but once I set my mind to something, I really want to make the list as complete as I can.

They are still in production but limited quantities, the wood is thicker and much more geared towards wall hangers (from the ones I have stood on) but I know there is still a market out there for those boards, much the same way that Powell boards still sell well, from Skate One.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2021, 09:50:42 PM

Quote from: TracersOnlyfans on April 12, 2021, 03:58:42 PM

Can someone tell me what woodshop this is from? It's a Pizza deck, ordered it expecting the same shape and dims as the Quasi/WKND shape i usually ride, because the measurements on the website are the same and the description says PS Stix but the measurements don't match up and this is not the usual PS top ply laser etching.

Cheers

(https://i.ibb.co/WFwQ7W7/dav.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NpPXf6f)
(https://imgbb.com/).

Edit: just scrolled up and saw the HOPPS board with same stamp and sticker. Guess you can add Pizza to the list of companies using Clutch, or add PS Stix to the list of companies subcontracting to Clutch. Lame.

So this seems to be the case in NZ and AU, but can anyone in the US check Pizza boards and let me know as well.

I have a feeling some more boards are being done on Clutch for our market, but are staying on PS Stix for the US market, but could be wrong.

Thanks.

(Woodshop list updated to now 12th April 2021)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Eric Dolphy on April 13, 2021, 12:08:01 AM

A mate in Long Beach just offered to send me a board from Long Beach Skate Co https://instagram.com/lbskateco?igshid=cytxfl25q70s

Does anyone know what woodshop they use? These bigger popsicles look like great shapes
(https://i.ibb.co/DLyVt7C/Screenshot-20210413-181506.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x30CDMj)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 13, 2021, 03:15:23 AM

Quote from: TracersOnlyfans on April 13, 2021, 12:08:01 AM

A mate in Long Beach just offered to send me a board from Long Beach Skate Co https://instagram.com/lbskateco?igshid=cytxfl25q70s

Does anyone know what woodshop they use? These bigger popsicles look like great shapes
(https://i.ibb.co/DLyVt7C/Screenshot-20210413-181506.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x30CDMj)

I would say if he is there, he should be able to tell you what they are, or at least if there are stickers or something on top identifying the woodshop.

I had a look through and nothing comes up apart from one board of theirs GS7 Shape Skateboard Deck which following some google links takes me back to a board from Slap which is a Generator BBS wood board, so at that price too, I would think that their boards might be BBS.

They definitely have all the sizes covered, as well as a whole lot of unique shaped decks too, (check Prospector boards) which is more than half the cheaper or smaller woodshops too.

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Post by: rocklobster on April 13, 2021, 04:00:46 AM

Woodshop aside, the lighthouse graphic boards look great. Almost picked one up a few weeks ago.

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Post by: Thomas on April 13, 2021, 06:37:55 AM

I have a Magenta team board and it is clearly not Generator anymore.
Maybe they switched to a cheaper wood for team boards, or due to covid...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2021, 09:43:55 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 13, 2021, 03:15:23 AM

I would say if he is there, he should be able to tell you what they are, or at least if there are stickers or something on top identifying the woodshop.

I had a look through and nothing comes up apart from one board of theirs GS7 Shape Skateboard Deck which following some google links takes me back to a board from Slap which is a Generator BBS wood board, so at that price too, I would think that their boards might be BBS.

They definitely have all the sizes covered, as well as a whole lot of unique shaped decks too, (check Prospector boards) which is more than half the cheaper or smaller woodshops too.

Their site says "Our new shop decks now proudly made at Generator Distribution!"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Eric Dolphy on April 13, 2021, 09:55:37 AM

Quote from: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2021, 09:43:55 AM

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I would say if he is there, he should be able to tell you what they are, or at least if there are stickers or something on top identifying the woodshop.

I had a look through and nothing comes up apart from one board of theirs GS7 Shape Skateboard Deck which following some google links takes me back to a board from Slap which is a Generator BBS wood board, so at that price too, I would think that their boards might be BBS.

They definitely have all the sizes covered, as well as a whole lot of unique shaped decks too, (check Prospector boards) which is more than half the cheaper or smaller woodshops too.
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Their site says "Our new shop decks now proudly made at Generator Distribution!"

Thanks, that's great. Yeah I'm going to grab that Prospector football, 8.625 x 32.125, 14.25 wb, 7.25 nose, 6.75 tail. "kicks are more square than a traditional football shape". Sounds absolutely dreamy.

I didn't want to push it by asking about the woodshop, it's a friend I know through music, not skating, and doesn't have the same board madness i suffer.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 13, 2021, 05:05:17 PM

Quote from: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2021, 09:43:55 AM

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I would say if he is there, he should be able to tell you what they are, or at least if there are stickers or something on top identifying the woodshop.

I had a look through and nothing comes up apart from one board of theirs GS7 Shape Skateboard Deck which following some google links takes me back to a board from Slap which is a Generator BBS wood board, so at that price too, I would think that their boards might be BBS.

They definitely have all the sizes covered, as well as a whole lot of unique shaped decks too, (check Prospector boards) which is more than half the cheaper or smaller woodshops too.
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Their site says "Our new shop decks now proudly made at Generator Distribution!"

I read that and thought "What, where?" but when I reopened the window and looked at the first board, yep there it is.

Funny cause I really only look at the bigger boards anyway and none of them have any info like that from what I could see.

https://lbskate.com/collections/long-beach-skate-co-shop-decks/products/long-beach-skate-co-light-mary-remix-7-5

Always happy to get a better perspective from someone else too. :)

Thank you!

Quote from: Thomas on April 13, 2021, 06:37:55 AM

I have a Magenta team board and it is clearly not Generator anymore.
Maybe they switched to a cheaper wood for team boards, or due to covid...

Do they have the stamp as per the pic above? I had heard the distributor is now using Clutch wood, either this thread or another one, but no one had confirmed it.

Thanks!

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Post by: left knee cap on April 13, 2021, 05:42:49 PM

can someone explain how palace ended up with dwindle at all places? kinda random

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Post by: Torre on April 13, 2021, 06:07:12 PM

What’s the consensus on Clutch wood? And also, specifically Hopps decks which I’ve never tried (haven’t tried any clutch wood before either)

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Post by: rocklobster on April 13, 2021, 07:02:01 PM

Was looking through Roller Horror's IG - their mid 2020 decks had a Prime stamp / sticker. Recent ones look like a single alignment dot on the front truck mounting hole. I DM'd Mike York like a man to verify the source.

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I would say if he is there, he should be able to tell you what they are, or at least if there are stickers or something on top identifying the woodshop.

I had a look through and nothing comes up apart from one board of theirs GS7 Shape Skateboard Deck which following some google links takes me back to a board from Slap which is a Generator BBS wood board, so at that price too, I would think that their boards might be BBS.

They definitely have all the sizes covered, as well as a whole lot of unique shaped decks too, (check Prospector boards) which is more than half the cheaper or smaller woodshops too.
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Their site says "Our new shop decks now proudly made at Generator Distribution!"
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I read that and thought "What, where?" but when I reopened the window and looked at the first board, yep there it is.

Funny cause I really only look at the bigger boards anyway and none of them have any info like that from what I could see.

https://lbskate.com/collections/long-beach-skate-co-shop-decks/products/long-beach-skate-co-light-mary-remix-7-5

Always happy to get a better perspective from someone else too. :)

Thank you!

Quote from: Thomas on April 13, 2021, 06:37:55 AM
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I have a Magenta team board and it is clearly not Generator anymore.
Maybe they switched to a cheaper wood for team boards, or due to covid...
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Do they have the stamp as per the pic above? I had heard the distributor is now using Clutch wood, either this thread or another one, but no one had confirmed it.

Thanks!

$40 for a Generator deck with graphic ain't bad, nice to see Tactics aren't the only one using Generator for their shop boards.

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Post by: j....soy..... on April 13, 2021, 11:07:13 PM

I'm in Canada and I get shop boards pretty regularly...ninetimes/menu....they are BBS....

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Post by: Thomas on April 13, 2021, 11:54:33 PM

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Quote from: Thomas on April 13, 2021, 06:37:55 AM
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I have a Magenta team board and it is clearly not Generator anymore.
Maybe they switched to a cheaper wood for team boards, or due to covid...
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Do they have the stamp as per the pic above? I had heard the distributor is now using Clutch wood, either this thread or another one, but no one had confirmed it.

Thanks!

I don't remember but I think there was that size sticker that is normally not on Magenta decks.
I liked the shape but to be honest I didn't chipped a board that bad for a long time.
My nose was destroyed after 3 sessions, like the plies were glued poorly...

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 14, 2021, 07:01:13 AM

Quote from: left knee cap on April 13, 2021, 05:42:49 PM

can someone explain how palace ended up with dwindle at all places? kinda random

It might be all manner of various things, but at the end of the day, if the business owner / person in charge gets a better deal from a certain woodshop, or they prefer the feel of boards from a certain woodshop, that could go a long way in determining what woodshop a brand uses.

The other side of it is only business based, so if for no other reason, it was more beneficial for a brand to use a certain woodshop, for whatever reason, but I imagine based on price, product quality or stock assurances, then that is the deal they have.

I have never really been a fan of Palace but I just did a bit of research on it - like a London based version of Supreme some people say - but at the end of the day, what I personally think about a brand or their wood is neither here nor there. Obviously some people love it and the company has made a lot of money from their streetwear game, if nothing else.

Quote from: Torre on April 13, 2021, 06:07:12 PM

What’s the consensus on Clutch wood? And also, specifically Hopps decks which I’ve never tried (haven’t tried any clutch wood before either)

The boards I have skated were good, no issues. There are definitely different presses, some boards felt so very close to BBS wood I had to check to see what I was riding sometimes when rolling on other people's boards. Like many places, some are a lot steeper than others, some almost flat it would seem. For the most part, they hold up just as well as any other pro quality wood, but like all of them, I have heard good and bad things said about BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Dwindle, etc.

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Post by: DropInDropOut on April 14, 2021, 07:46:00 AM

Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

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Post by: Murge on April 14, 2021, 08:10:08 AM

I’m pretty sure the new blood wizard deck I got is clutch and I’m loving the shape. Big full nose short stubby tail 31.75 long. If it lasts pretty well it kinda makes me want to try other shops that’s not bbs.

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Post by: rocklobster on April 14, 2021, 08:21:59 AM

Been thinking of trying a Creature / Santa Cruz Everslick seem to be sold out at most places. Anyone have a review of the boards (outside Ben Degros) and a site selling them?

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Post by: Slugboi22 on April 14, 2021, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: DropInDropOut on April 14, 2021, 07:46:00 AM

Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

The site has always said that and they themselves have posted on IG in the comments about being on generator wood. I would go for it. 90% sure it’s not clutch

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Post by: Lou Strux on April 14, 2021, 10:54:30 AM

Here to say that Clutch wood feels great while it lasts.
Only boards I’ve snapped in a long time (only got 3/4 sessions in in the last one,) and not as impact resistant on the tips/rails as, say, BBS, but a real treat to ride, regardless.
Nice ‘cave, lively pop, pretty stiff, not too thick.
I feel like I may have had a random fluke for a breaker, but even having said that, I def wouldn’t mind riding them again.
In fact, I’m not 100% sure, but the I believe the Theories UFO 8.5” I’m on rite now is Clutch & I will for certain consider buying another when such need should arise.
Great shape for me.

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Post by: DropInDropOut on April 14, 2021, 11:46:34 PM

Quote from: Slugboi22 on April 14, 2021, 10:40:07 AM

Quote from: DropInDropOut on April 14, 2021, 07:46:00 AM
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Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0
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The site has always said that and they themselves have posted on IG in the comments about being on generator wood. I would go for it. 90% sure it’s not clutch

Cool, yeah I think your right, I’m going to pull the trigger. I’m probably overthinking it due to all the chopping and changing of woodshops going on (really thankful for this thread!).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2021, 01:43:14 AM

Quote from: DropInDropOut on April 14, 2021, 11:46:34 PM

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Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0
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The site has always said that and they themselves have posted on IG in the comments about being on generator wood. I would go for it. 90% sure it’s not clutch
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Cool, yeah I think your right, I’m going to pull the trigger. I’m probably overthinking it due to all the chopping and changing of woodshops going on (really thankful for this thread!).

I do find it a bit funny when some companies have a " ... in USA" be it "Made" or whatever other wording, given that all these big woodshops all produce their boards outside of the USA and bring them back into the USA, sometimes with or without graphics, which then can be put on via heat transfer in a distribution warehouse in the USA.

I guess it is the same as a lot of other companies that have a mixed message about where things come from, not outright lies, but some shops and places like to put things on there that are often not exactly true.

BBS, PS Stix and Clutch are all made in Mexico, Dwindle in China, and very few woodshops still operating in the USA, as per info on the first page, second post.

Anyone else find this statement funny, if indeed BBS do the boards and heat transfers all in house, in Mexico:

"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."

* BBS are my preferred option for wood, so not knocking BBS or Darkroom, just curious more than anything, but also asking for clarification or calling bullshit on their statement.

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Post by: Firebert on April 15, 2021, 07:01:55 AM

Still think @pennswood is the best quality even though they were difficult to deal with. Anyone know if they're still operating at the moment?

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Post by: DropInDropOut on April 15, 2021, 09:16:08 AM

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Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0
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The site has always said that and they themselves have posted on IG in the comments about being on generator wood. I would go for it. 90% sure it’s not clutch
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Cool, yeah I think your right, I’m going to pull the trigger. I’m probably overthinking it due to all the chopping and changing of woodshops going on (really thankful for this thread!).
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I do find it a bit funny when some companies have a " ... in USA" be it "Made" or whatever other wording, given that all these big woodshops all produce their boards outside of the USA and bring them back into the USA, sometimes with or without graphics, which then can be put on via heat transfer in a distribution warehouse in the USA.

I guess it is the same as a lot of other companies that have a mixed message about where things come from, not outright lies, but some shops and places like to put things on there that are often not exactly true.

BBS, PS Stix and Clutch are all made in Mexico, Dwindle in China, and very few woodshops still operating in the USA, as per info on the first page, second post.

Anyone else find this statement funny, if indeed BBS do the boards and heat transfers all in house, in Mexico:

"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."

* BBS are my preferred option for wood, so not knocking BBS or Darkroom, just curious more than anything, but also asking for clarification or calling bullshit on their statement.

I didn’t realise Clutch was in Mexico too, thanks for the info. I agree, that statement kinda was off putting, I love his art but also want wood I know/like, and the “highest quality wood/most functional shape/most solid decks” was kinda odd.
I baulked and got a Polar instead.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: chris. on April 15, 2021, 12:24:04 PM

Scumco just got a run in on Clutch and has some more from Pennswood incoming per their IG story.

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Post by: munchbox on April 15, 2021, 05:09:35 PM

Quote from: chris. on April 15, 2021, 12:24:04 PM

Scumco just got a run in on Clutch and has some more from Pennswood incoming per their IG story.

this news made my week

pennswood is so underrated, makes bbs feel like ps stix

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on April 15, 2021, 05:22:06 PM

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Scumco just got a run in on Clutch and has some more from Pennswood incoming per their IG story.
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this news made my week

pennswood is so underrated, makes bbs feel like ps stix

That story said control not clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2021, 06:48:53 PM

Quote from: Ol Nick on April 15, 2021, 06:23:30 PM

Can anyone recommend an online shop that is good with posting WB specs AND usually has The Killing Floor? Tactics occasionally has them but not enough to kinda piece together what the specs are when new graphics come out and everyone else I’ve found with boards don’t post WB.

I heard people say they went from BBS to Clutch wood, but this is only what others have said - same distro as Isle, Hopps and a couple of others as per the woodshop thread.

Not sure how recent these are, but all have dimensions on here, which look like BBS boards, so maybe not quite so recent. Isle on here definitely have BBS / Generator stamps.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Killing_Floor_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKKILLFLOOR.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TheLowerBack on April 15, 2021, 10:50:12 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2021, 06:48:53 PM

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Can anyone recommend an online shop that is good with posting WB specs AND usually has The Killing Floor? Tactics occasionally has them but not enough to kinda piece together what the specs are when new graphics come out and everyone else I’ve found with boards don’t post WB.
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I heard people say they went from BBS to Clutch wood, but this is only what others have said - same distro as Isle, Hopps and a couple of others as per the woodshop thread.

Not sure how recent these are, but all have dimensions on here, which look like BBS boards, so maybe not quite so recent. Isle on here definitely have BBS / Generator stamps.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Killing_Floor_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKKILLFLOOR.html

TKF is definitely still Generator. Some of the one offs may be sourced elsewhere, but the main series is the same.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 16, 2021, 02:11:15 AM

Quote from: TheLowerBack on April 15, 2021, 10:50:12 PM

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Can anyone recommend an online shop that is good with posting WB specs AND usually has The Killing Floor? Tactics occasionally has them but not enough to kinda piece together what the specs are when new graphics come out and everyone else I’ve found with boards don’t post WB.
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I heard people say they went from BBS to Clutch wood, but this is only what others have said - same distro as Isle, Hopps and a couple of others as per the woodshop thread.

Not sure how recent these are, but all have dimensions on here, which look like BBS boards, so maybe not quite so recent. Isle on here definitely have BBS / Generator stamps.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Killing_Floor_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKKILLFLOOR.html
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TKF is definitely still Generator. Some of the one offs may be sourced elsewhere, but the main series is the same.

Thanks!

Didn't think to check initially but their own website / store has a good list of stockists, so you can see if there are any closer to you, or where they often put them up online too:

https://the-killing-floor-skateboards.myshopify.com/pages/stockists

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 16, 2021, 02:12:20 AM

Would a list of woodshops that included pics of top of board markings be good too?

Not sure if it would be too much information at the start or what.

I have been compiling some which would make it a whole lot easier for some people to reference and then be able to work out what the boards were, but I think there will still be a lot of others or generic boards with similar stickers on them so people could get confused and not know.

Eg

Clutch - usually (but not always) has a letter and a number stamped into the wood around the front bolt holes, then often the size in a dot sticker often over the stamp, or right beside it.

PS Stix - always has some sort of laser engraving information but mainly has SN# PS 39383837 type of info, which is the identifying info of that particular deck, the warning sticker usually higher up on the nose.

BBS - harder to tell with no sticker (unless it has Generator sticker) but often just a dot imprint around front bolts area and sometimes laser engraving for the specific brand, if not "Built by BBS" and size info, sometimes the warning sticker over the bolts, but usually just above the bolts.

Dwindle - laser engraving with serial number, size, brand info under the front bolts area, not between the front bolt holes.

Control - red white maple leaf sticker in between front bolts.

HLC - laser engraving with info on the deck, more often under the front bolts, but usually lower down closer to the back bolts in the middle area.

Generic manufacturer in China - usually just the size of the deck either between front bolts, just under it, or from another place, on the top or bottom under the back bolts, usually a bigger font.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 17, 2021, 10:14:37 AM

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Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Vision (reissues)
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They (allegedly) make their own boards in Costa Mesa, still. Along with Schmitt Stix, Hosoi, Elephant, Honey (longboards) and a couple others. I wish they would go back to silk screening.
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Thanks.

I recall reading about it somewhere but just couldn't remember the name of the woodshop or where they were actually made. I guess it is not a big deal really, but once I set my mind to something, I really want to make the list as complete as I can.

They are still in production but limited quantities, the wood is thicker and much more geared towards wall hangers (from the ones I have stood on) but I know there is still a market out there for those boards, much the same way that Powell boards still sell well, from Skate One.

I just got a Ken Park reissue because I love the graphics and they are still fun shapes to skate. No longer has the Made in USA sticker. Ive long suspected they were China boards. Would be kind of sad given that there are still a bunch of usable presses and molds from the old days at the Costa Mesa warehouse of Select (Vision).

I make boards myself so I will always enjoy riding those the most. Second to that, Id say BBS has it pretty dialed. Some smaller shops make pretty good boards too. My two favorite small shops right now are Watson in San Diego and Gnosis in the UK.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 17, 2021, 10:17:07 AM

A lot of shops use the front dot marking method on the front truck holes. I know several China shops do that.

My most recent BBS deck just has a Warning sticker about skating within your ability, with Made in Mexico around perimeter.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2021, 08:54:28 AM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 17, 2021, 10:14:37 AM

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Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Vision (reissues)
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They (allegedly) make their own boards in Costa Mesa, still. Along with Schmitt Stix, Hosoi, Elephant, Honey (longboards) and a couple others. I wish they would go back to silk screening.
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Thanks.

I recall reading about it somewhere but just couldn't remember the name of the woodshop or where they were actually made. I guess it is not a big deal really, but once I set my mind to something, I really want to make the list as complete as I can.

They are still in production but limited quantities, the wood is thicker and much more geared towards wall hangers (from the ones I have stood on) but I know there is still a market out there for those boards, much the same way that Powell boards still sell well, from Skate One.
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I just got a Ken Park reissue because I love the graphics and they are still fun shapes to skate. No longer has the Made in USA sticker. Ive long suspected they were China boards. Would be kind of sad given that there are still a bunch of usable presses and molds from the old days at the Costa Mesa warehouse of Select (Vision).

I make boards myself so I will always enjoy riding those the most. Second to that, Id say BBS has it pretty dialed. Some smaller shops make pretty good boards too. My two favorite small shops right now are Watson in San Diego and Gnosis in the UK.

I realised I hadn't put Select in there, even though I follow them on Instagram, so added now.

Thanks for reminding me, as well as bumping my memory of Gnosis, who I also follow - amazing big wide boards and yellow tops which I thought were the best too...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 18, 2021, 11:12:59 AM

Are there any woodshops in Australia? My wife is over there working right now and keeps asking if I want anything skate related. Haven't been able to come up with anything yet.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sila on April 18, 2021, 11:54:19 AM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 18, 2021, 11:12:59 AM

Are there any woodshops in Australia? My wife is over there working right now and keeps asking if I want anything skate related. Haven't been able to come up with anything yet.

No woodshops here as far as I know

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2021, 06:09:20 PM

Quote from: Sila on April 18, 2021, 11:54:19 AM

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Are there any woodshops in Australia? My wife is over there working right now and keeps asking if I want anything skate related. Haven't been able to come up with anything yet.
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No woodshops here as far as I know

Nothing on the scale of some other places, but still quite a few people doing boards themselves on a smaller scale.

I think the only one that really stands out that is a long lasting commercial venture is OMNI boards.

https://www.instagram.com/omni_boards/

Even just around Brisbane there are about four guys with presses and who make boards from time to time, but they are not well known and hardly come up on anything other than local radar.

One that makes carbon layered decks is this guy too, who is worth checking out:

https://www.instagram.com/dpressd_skateboards/

I cannot recall the others right now, but they are out there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: left knee cap on April 19, 2021, 08:51:46 AM

just got the HUF x Street Fighter boards. not sure on woodshop. all the boards have “7K” etched on the top b

(https://i.ibb.co/1nyy883/ED6-CA7-B7-7-EB6-4354-9-EBA-6-B5-CF471-EFFF.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on April 19, 2021, 09:01:35 AM

Quote from: left knee cap on April 19, 2021, 08:51:46 AM

just got the HUF x Street Fighter boards. not sure on woodshop. all the boards have “7K” etched on the top b

(https://i.ibb.co/1nyy883/ED6-CA7-B7-7-EB6-4354-9-EBA-6-B5-CF471-EFFF.jpg)

Clutch for sure

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 19, 2021, 05:47:15 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2021, 06:09:20 PM

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Are there any woodshops in Australia? My wife is over there working right now and keeps asking if I want anything skate related. Haven't been able to come up with anything yet.
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No woodshops here as far as I know
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Nothing on the scale of some other places, but still quite a few people doing boards themselves on a smaller scale.

I think the only one that really stands out that is a long lasting commercial venture is OMNI boards.

https://www.instagram.com/omni_boards/

Even just around Brisbane there are about four guys with presses and who make boards from time to time, but they are not well known and hardly come up on anything other than local radar.

One that makes carbon layered decks is this guy too, who is worth checking out:

https://www.instagram.com/dpressd_skateboards/

I cannot recall the others right now, but they are out there.

Sweet. Hopefully she can find something in Sydney.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: WavyDavy on April 23, 2021, 10:34:29 AM

Maybe interesting for german pals:

B-lag shop decks are imported and made by bbs/ generator
https://www.blag-skateshop.de/decks/6984-decks-b-lag-skateboards-deck-750-875-3d.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 23, 2021, 06:00:40 PM

Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 03:28:37 AM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 23, 2021, 06:00:40 PM

Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.

Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 03:45:00 AM

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Randomly sent it on a 8.5 Doomsayers deck that looked nice when I went in to my local, and turns out it is the exact same shape as my 8.5 Fitzgerald Hockey deck. Deck is a lot lighter overall, which is great IMO, but definitely was not expecting this.
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The latest DSC is PS, but the one right before that was BBS. One before that was clutch. All are in shops. At least they changed the graphics though. I think hand screened is clutch, transfers are bbs or PS.

Yeah, it is a funny one.

Not sure how many of their boards there are around either, certainly none heading this way any time soon, from what I have heard, but who knows really.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 24, 2021, 08:33:37 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 03:28:37 AM

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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.

It is from HLC. Is that a factory as well as distribution? I just assumed this is how they were distributing through Europe. I'm in Los Angeles, though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: PAWL on April 24, 2021, 09:15:57 AM

anyone know what woodshop uma is using?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2021, 10:31:15 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 03:28:37 AM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 23, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.

My last Plan B was def PSstix ('Sliced' deck), it was the most flat board I have ever ridden, tail was on the short side but literally felt like it had no kick (and this was coming off a primitive).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 02:14:02 PM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 24, 2021, 08:33:37 AM

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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.
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It is from HLC. Is that a factory as well as distribution? I just assumed this is how they were distributing through Europe. I'm in Los Angeles, though.

HLC does everything there at their location, from looking at this which shows it best.

hlcdistribution
"We are a skateboarding manufacturing factory based in the Basque Country, north region of Spain..."

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNUnC_go892/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNubx_lo4qk/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 02:19:53 PM

Quote from: Xen on April 24, 2021, 10:31:15 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 03:28:37 AM
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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.

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My last Plan B was def PSstix ('Sliced' deck), it was the most flat board I have ever ridden, tail was on the short side but literally felt like it had no kick (and this was coming off a primitive).

Yes the US versions were always PS Stix, as per a few I have here (older boards), but what I probably didn't make clear was the question of HLC wood, as you have had one or more.

Did I recall you saying that the edges didn't feel finished off or something?

Or what are your experiences with HLC wood?

Thanks! :)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 24, 2021, 02:48:29 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2021, 02:14:02 PM

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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.
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It is from HLC. Is that a factory as well as distribution? I just assumed this is how they were distributing through Europe. I'm in Los Angeles, though.
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HLC does everything there at their location, from looking at this which shows it best.

hlcdistribution
"We are a skateboarding manufacturing factory based in the Basque Country, north region of Spain..."

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNUnC_go892/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNubx_lo4qk/

Cool thanks. And the edge sanding probably bothers some people but not really a big deal to me. Otherwise the deck is pretty high quality. The weirdest thing is probably the three dyed veneers in the middle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2021, 03:32:55 PM

Quote from: ManimalChin on April 24, 2021, 02:48:29 PM

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Just got a Plan B board from their site and it shipped immediately from Spain. No markings on the top. Good quality wood but I can't tell if they meant to only sand the bottom, Grosso style, or not. Kinda weird edge sanding. Also has dyed cross plies and middle core. Not complaining because I know sanding is one of the hardest parts of making boards. Curious where the board was made, though.
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Pre covid Plan B was always PS Stix.

From more recently, in South America and maybe the US or similar they were from Clutch, but they didn't have any stamp on top or other branding to identify them.

Anywhere in Europe, that is licenced to be on wood from HLC, which I think people have said is often not well rounded like some other woodshops, so that makes sense if it was from Spain.

This is almost completely just from what I have heard (being in Australia) and the most recent Plan B boards I have seen have been on very flat looking wood with long but mellow kicks and no other markings, stamps or tell to what wood shop they have come from, so I am assuming Clutch as per what people have said in other places.

@Xen had the info on those, if I recall correctly.
[close]

It is from HLC. Is that a factory as well as distribution? I just assumed this is how they were distributing through Europe. I'm in Los Angeles, though.
[close]

HLC does everything there at their location, from looking at this which shows it best.

hlcdistribution
"We are a skateboarding manufacturing factory based in the Basque Country, north region of Spain..."

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNUnC_go892/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNubx_lo4qk/
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Cool thanks. And the edge sanding probably bothers some people but not really a big deal to me. Otherwise the deck is pretty high quality. The weirdest thing is probably the three dyed veneers in the middle.

I don't give a shit about how smooth the edges are (no one should) but, you can tell that more consistent wood shop has better edges (DSM/NHS wood) and during the pandemmy, I'm sure that people are hustling so edges get less love.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ScarceOne on April 25, 2021, 05:57:59 AM

Just picked up a Victoria deck from my local was wondering who presses them? They are a Hong Kong company so I dunno

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Urtripping on April 25, 2021, 06:54:19 AM

Any guesses on where Benny's getting the decks he talks about here made? From his description and the purple stain (I had one exactly like it, same shade and such) it seems they could be the Gangemi hand pressed wood that orchard has been using for shop decks.

http://youtu.be/MvJkD_S4oSs

Edit: The mellow concave and pointy nose/tail just sound exactly like the orchard decks I've been riding, and the stain seemed all too familiar as well. The thing is, Orchard doesn't have an 8.38 width available, but that's how wide the deck in the video is.

(https://i.imgur.com/lbzhseI_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: WavyDavy on April 25, 2021, 07:08:24 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on April 25, 2021, 06:54:19 AM

Any guesses on where Benny's getting the decks he talks about here made? From his description and the purple stain (I had one exactly like it, same shade and such) it seems they could be the Gangemi hand pressed wood that orchard has been using for shop decks.

http://youtu.be/MvJkD_S4oSs

Edit: The mellow concave and pointy nose/tail just sound exactly like the orchard decks I've been riding, and the stain seemed all too familiar as well. The thing is, Orchard doesn't have an 8.38 width available, but that's how wide the deck in the video is.

(https://i.imgur.com/lbzhseI_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

I thought it was this shop bc he has advertised their blanks

https://canadaskateshop.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 25, 2021, 07:14:39 AM

Quote from: PAWL on April 24, 2021, 09:15:57 AM

anyone know what woodshop uma is using?

Tried posting earlier but I guess something was down...

Uma is on BBS

All the relevant info for woodshops and board brands is current and up to date on the first page, first three posts.

Anyone see anything that needs correcting, please let me know so I can update it accordingly.

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: chris. on April 25, 2021, 07:24:52 AM

I would put money on Ben Degros riding South Central. Slightly thicker, heavier, and almost too stiff. The shapes appear similar to my SC 8.25.

Edit: I’m already sitting in my garage next to my gear, and my 8.25 SC tapers slightly over the rear bolts as wellS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on April 25, 2021, 08:21:28 AM

Quote from: ScarceOne on April 25, 2021, 05:57:59 AM

Just picked up a Victoria deck from my local was wondering who presses them? They are a Hong Kong company so I dunno

You mean one of these decks?

https://victoriahongkong.com/collections/boards-1/products/klasse-wrecks-x-victoria-deck

DSM wood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on April 25, 2021, 09:46:59 AM

Quote from: WavyDavy on April 25, 2021, 07:08:24 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on April 25, 2021, 06:54:19 AM
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Any guesses on where Benny's getting the decks he talks about here made? From his description and the purple stain (I had one exactly like it, same shade and such) it seems they could be the Gangemi hand pressed wood that orchard has been using for shop decks.

http://youtu.be/MvJkD_S4oSs

Edit: The mellow concave and pointy nose/tail just sound exactly like the orchard decks I've been riding, and the stain seemed all too familiar as well. The thing is, Orchard doesn't have an 8.38 width available, but that's how wide the deck in the video is.

(https://i.imgur.com/lbzhseI_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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I thought it was this shop bc he has advertised their blanks

https://canadaskateshop.com/

wood shops can get their wood pre dyed from the supplier, so it’s not uncommon to have similar colors in the veneer

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on April 25, 2021, 10:04:20 AM

Quote from: Xen on April 24, 2021, 03:32:55 PM

I don't give a shit about how smooth the edges are (no one should) but, you can tell that more consistent wood shop has better edges (DSM/NHS wood) and during the pandemmy, I'm sure that people are hustling so edges get less love.

I thought I responded to this yesterday but maybe it did not go through. Edge sanding is one of the steps in making decks that takes longer to learn. Workers can learn how to do a variety of things on the first hour of the first day on the job, but edge sanding really needs a team of guys who have experience making those edges really round. The Chinese factories can employ hundreds of people and edge sanding stations can have many guys who that's all they do. Same with BBS...I think they have like 15-20 guys who mostly edge sand decks.

Gotta give major props to guys who do this all day every day, because it sucks!! Lol. One of the most overlooked parts of a board, and one wrong movement and you've sanded off a good portion of your hand.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 25, 2021, 09:38:25 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 25, 2021, 08:21:28 AM

Quote from: ScarceOne on April 25, 2021, 05:57:59 AM
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Just picked up a Victoria deck from my local was wondering who presses them? They are a Hong Kong company so I dunno
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You mean one of these decks?

https://victoriahongkong.com/collections/boards-1/products/klasse-wrecks-x-victoria-deck

DSM wood

So good - thanks!

At least they are very clear about their wood, which is somewhat refreshing to see.

As per that page:

- SEVEN PLY

- YELLOW, PINK, AND GREEN BOTTOM VANEER VARIATIONS CHOSEN RANDOMLY

- MADE IN CHINA BY DSM

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2021, 12:38:00 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 25, 2021, 09:38:25 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 25, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
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Quote from: ScarceOne on April 25, 2021, 05:57:59 AM
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Just picked up a Victoria deck from my local was wondering who presses them? They are a Hong Kong company so I dunno
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You mean one of these decks?

https://victoriahongkong.com/collections/boards-1/products/klasse-wrecks-x-victoria-deck

DSM wood
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So good - thanks!

At least they are very clear about their wood, which is somewhat refreshing to see.

As per that page:

- SEVEN PLY

- YELLOW, PINK, AND GREEN BOTTOM VANEER VARIATIONS CHOSEN RANDOMLY

- MADE IN CHINA BY DSM

China gets a lot of shit, but their DSM boards are consistent and cover a broad price band from beginner (Walmart) boards to Resin-7 ones which are comparable in quality to you BBS / Clutch boards.

Also, Dwindle uses birch, birch + maple hybrid and maple wood for their boards depending on the price range.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ScarceOne on April 26, 2021, 05:59:33 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 26, 2021, 12:38:00 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 25, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
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Quote from: rocklobster on April 25, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
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Quote from: ScarceOne on April 25, 2021, 05:57:59 AM
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Just picked up a Victoria deck from my local was wondering who presses them? They are a Hong Kong company so I dunno
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You mean one of these decks?

https://victoriahongkong.com/collections/boards-1/products/klasse-wrecks-x-victoria-deck

DSM wood
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So good - thanks!

At least they are very clear about their wood, which is somewhat refreshing to see.

As per that page:

- SEVEN PLY

- YELLOW, PINK, AND GREEN BOTTOM VANEER VARIATIONS CHOSEN RANDOMLY

- MADE IN CHINA BY DSM
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China gets a lot of shit, but their DSM boards are consistent and cover a broad price band from beginner (Walmart) boards to Resin-7 ones which are comparable in quality to you BBS / Clutch boards.

Also, Dwindle uses birch, birch + maple hybrid and maple wood for their boards depending on the price range.

Right on thanks guys

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lloyd Braun on April 26, 2021, 08:22:44 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 25, 2021, 09:46:59 AM

Quote from: WavyDavy on April 25, 2021, 07:08:24 AM
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Quote from: Urtripping on April 25, 2021, 06:54:19 AM
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Any guesses on where Benny's getting the decks he talks about here made? From his description and the purple stain (I had one exactly like it, same shade and such) it seems they could be the Gangemi hand pressed wood that orchard has been using for shop decks.

http://youtu.be/MvJkD_S4oSs

Edit: The mellow concave and pointy nose/tail just sound exactly like the orchard decks I've been riding, and the stain seemed all too familiar as well. The thing is, Orchard doesn't have an 8.38 width available, but that's how wide the deck in the video is.

(https://i.imgur.com/lbzhseI_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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I thought it was this shop bc he has advertised their blanks

https://canadaskateshop.com/
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wood shops can get their wood pre dyed from the supplier, so it’s not uncommon to have similar colors in the veneer

I dont know but if I had to guess id say control? I had one of their boards and I remember it being kinda similar? Im kind of pulling that out of my ass though

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2021, 08:29:32 PM

Interesting to see HLC posted a reply on an instagram post:

hlcdistribution
We are the international producers and distributors of @planbofficial and EMEA for @flipskateboards

https://www.instagram.com/p/COH-yK0oOMI/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2021, 08:55:26 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2021, 08:29:32 PM

Interesting to see HLC posted a reply on an instagram post:

hlcdistribution
We are the international producers and distributors of @planbofficial and EMEA for @flipskateboards

https://www.instagram.com/p/COH-yK0oOMI/

Strange, I got a Plan B deck off a US site and it came without the PS Stix laser markings. Could be leftover stock from 2020.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2021, 11:30:14 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 26, 2021, 08:55:26 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
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Interesting to see HLC posted a reply on an instagram post:

hlcdistribution
We are the international producers and distributors of @planbofficial and EMEA for @flipskateboards

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Strange, I got a Plan B deck off a US site and it came without the PS Stix laser markings. Could be leftover stock from 2020.

It probably did come from them.

It makes sense that all these Plan B boards I have seen here are different to what else I have seen and felt when I stand on them, so now I know they are all HLC. Also means shops and distributors who buy in the boards and sell in US shops have bought them from HLC to start with, or been distributed by someone to bring them in.

So Plan B everywhere now comes from HLC.

Flip is from HLC in Europe, Middle East and Africa and here in AU, but most likely from Clutch in the US / Americas still.

Some other brands as mentioned on that post being done by HLC, including Foundation, but someone would have to confirm that one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on April 28, 2021, 12:04:18 PM

another backyard wood shop. So sick

https://youtu.be/XwUFCczNLxw

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 28, 2021, 05:07:50 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 28, 2021, 12:04:18 PM

another backyard wood shop. So sick

Damn, that is amazing - dude skates, presses boards, screens them, even the song was his own band singing skate rock...

www.tiny.cc/shopmanakskates

All decks are hand glued, pressed, shaped, painted, screen-printed, glossed, and shrinkwrapped one at a time by the Manak family in our backyard in San Jose, Ca. We add extra press time and cure times to make a higher quality, better performing deck. Hand-glued leads to a stiffer, longer-lasting board with everlasting pop. In most cases, our boards will last 3 times longer than a factory-made deck. Low tech, no tech!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on April 29, 2021, 02:30:00 AM

Woops forgot to update after my last trip to Radio. Few things I noticed:

- New scumco is control =(. Good graphics though. Supposedly there's more Pennswood coming but no more PS for a while. Stock up while you can.

https://i.imgur.com/CY495Cs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/v0aKigq.jpg

- Tumyeto still all over the place. The newest order had mostly PS but also clutch and bbs, and there was one foundation from a mystery shop which if I had to take a guess I'd say maybe PGI? I know there's also some Watson boards out right now although radio didn't have any.

-picture show (and I think theories too but not 100%) was a split of clutch and something else, it was pretty flat and the dimensions/stains/finish made me think it was dsm/dwindle.

- pizza is all clutch now, didnt peel the stickers but I'm almost positive they were all O shape which is cool since that's the best asf shape in my opinion.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sila on April 29, 2021, 11:06:00 AM

How is Prime wood generally? I have the opportunity to pick up a couple of cheap blanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on April 29, 2021, 12:35:56 PM

Quote from: Sila on April 29, 2021, 11:06:00 AM

How is Prime wood generally? I have the opportunity to pick up a couple of cheap blanks

I've only tried one of the blanks and I really wasn't impressed. It was the U5 which I guess is their standard mold, what I remember of the shape is that it was really, really generic. Pretty much a standard modern full popsicle, medium everything, 8.25 x 32, 14.25wb... nose was probably right at 7 and tail 6.6 or 6.75. It did have a few dyed inner plys which is always nice. Felt a little thick but not heavy. Pop was... underwhelming. I don't want to call it soggy, it just didn't really have any life to it. You'd snap down and it would make a thud and just kinda stay there.

Maybe I got a dud, or maybe the cheap blanks are factory seconds or something, but it was enough that I've never had any desire to try one again. That being said, I guess the modern incarnation of World is still pressed there and there's always something deep in my brain that expresses a primal "I want that" when I see a classic devilman board so they may get some more money out of me yet.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 29, 2021, 09:40:20 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on April 29, 2021, 02:30:00 AM

Woops forgot to update after my last trip to Radio. Few things I noticed:

- New scumco is control =(. Good graphics though. Supposedly there's more Pennswood coming but no more PS for a while. Stock up while you can.

- Tumyeto still all over the place. The newest order had mostly PS but also clutch and bbs, and there was one foundation from a mystery shop which if I had to take a guess I'd say maybe PGI? I know there's also some Watson boards out right now although radio didn't have any.

-picture show (and I think theories too but not 100%) was a split of clutch and something else, it was pretty flat and the dimensions/stains/finish made me think it was dsm/dwindle.

- pizza is all clutch now, didnt peel the stickers but I'm almost positive they were all O shape which is cool since that's the best asf shape in my opinion.

Always appreciated and I have updated the list accordingly.

For anyone else looking for woodshop / deck brands, check the first page (and let me know if anything needs updating)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.0

First page - woodshop list with brands

First post - woodshop / brands

Second post - woodshop info

Third post - brands listed alphabetically

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sila on April 30, 2021, 03:52:26 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on April 29, 2021, 12:35:56 PM

Quote from: Sila on April 29, 2021, 11:06:00 AM
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How is Prime wood generally? I have the opportunity to pick up a couple of cheap blanks
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I've only tried one of the blanks and I really wasn't impressed. It was the U5 which I guess is their standard mold, what I remember of the shape is that it was really, really generic. Pretty much a standard modern full popsicle, medium everything, 8.25 x 32, 14.25wb... nose was probably right at 7 and tail 6.6 or 6.75. It did have a few dyed inner plys which is always nice. Felt a little thick but not heavy. Pop was... underwhelming. I don't want to call it soggy, it just didn't really have any life to it. You'd snap down and it would make a thud and just kinda stay there.

Maybe I got a dud, or maybe the cheap blanks are factory seconds or something, but it was enough that I've never had any desire to try one again. That being said, I guess the modern incarnation of World is still pressed there and there's always something deep in my brain that expresses a primal "I want that" when I see a classic devilman board so they may get some more money out of me yet.

Hey, thanks for detailed reply. I'm not made of money so probably won't take the gamble. I'm still struggling to find decent blanks or shop boards here in Australia. Maybe the brimson an chime in on this one. Thankyou!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on April 30, 2021, 02:58:03 PM

Had anyone ever had a stress skateboards deck? Just got one from my local and he said they are all hand screened. They have a little circle indentation with he size right under it on the top between the top truck holes. The wood and shape looks and feels alot like BBS. Has top middle and bottom color veneer.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2021, 09:18:57 PM

Quote from: Sila on April 30, 2021, 03:52:26 AM

I'm still struggling to find decent blanks or shop boards here in Australia. Maybe the brimson an chime in on this one. Thankyou!

I guess it comes down to what you like in terms of shape, concave, size and what is available, as things have been pretty topsy turvy at the moment, some boards being completely out of stock in AU, some minimally supplied, others with prices that have gone through the roof...

I definitely have info on options here in AU, discount codes and who has what on special as well.

Quote from: HumBoogie on April 30, 2021, 02:58:03 PM

Had anyone ever had a stress skateboards deck? Just got one from my local and he said they are all hand screened. They have a little circle indentation with he size right under it on the top between the top truck holes. The wood and shape looks and feels alot like BBS. Has top middle and bottom color veneer.

If it is a letter and a number that is usually Clutch, letter O for the shape and number for the size.

They can and do feel closest to BBS wood too, or at least some I have do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on May 01, 2021, 06:03:10 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2021, 09:18:57 PM

Quote from: Sila on April 30, 2021, 03:52:26 AM
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I'm still struggling to find decent blanks or shop boards here in Australia. Maybe the brimson an chime in on this one. Thankyou!
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I guess it comes down to what you like in terms of shape, concave, size and what is available, as things have been pretty topsy turvy at the moment, some boards being completely out of stock in AU, some minimally supplied, others with prices that have gone through the roof...

I definitely have info on options here in AU, discount codes and who has what on special as well.

Quote from: HumBoogie on April 30, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
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Had anyone ever had a stress skateboards deck? Just got one from my local and he said they are all hand screened. They have a little circle indentation with he size right under it on the top between the top truck holes. The wood and shape looks and feels alot like BBS. Has top middle and bottom color veneer.
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If it is a letter and a number that is usually Clutch, letter O for the shape and number for the size.

They can and do feel closest to BBS wood too, or at least some I have do.

I don't think it's clutch because it's not like k7 or any other combo it just has an indent of a dot and then has 8.38 indentation right below that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: backinaction on May 01, 2021, 06:07:18 PM

Does Clutch use different molds for their different shapes? I am currently skating (and enjoying) an 8.38 K shape. If I pick up an 8.38 of another shape (possibly O shape) will they have the same mold and wheelbase?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2021, 02:22:42 AM

Quote from: HumBoogie on May 01, 2021, 06:03:10 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2021, 09:18:57 PM
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Quote from: Sila on April 30, 2021, 03:52:26 AM
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I'm still struggling to find decent blanks or shop boards here in Australia. Maybe the brimson an chime in on this one. Thankyou!
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I guess it comes down to what you like in terms of shape, concave, size and what is available, as things have been pretty topsy turvy at the moment, some boards being completely out of stock in AU, some minimally supplied, others with prices that have gone through the roof...

I definitely have info on options here in AU, discount codes and who has what on special as well.

Quote from: HumBoogie on April 30, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
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Had anyone ever had a stress skateboards deck? Just got one from my local and he said they are all hand screened. They have a little circle indentation with he size right under it on the top between the top truck holes. The wood and shape looks and feels alot like BBS. Has top middle and bottom color veneer.
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If it is a letter and a number that is usually Clutch, letter O for the shape and number for the size.

They can and do feel closest to BBS wood too, or at least some I have do.
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I don't think it's clutch because it's not like k7 or any other combo it just has an indent of a dot and then has 8.38 indentation right below that.

Does it look more like this? (This one being an 8.475 size deck)

This is a Baker board, same as Heroin, Birdhouse and Deathwish, all having the dot in the middle and the size stamp just below that, on the front truck area, which is BBS wood.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVKThDW/Baker-size-stamp-big.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ry9wgDS)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2021, 02:25:22 AM

Quote from: backinaction on May 01, 2021, 06:07:18 PM

Does Clutch use different molds for their different shapes? I am currently skating (and enjoying) an 8.38 K shape. If I pick up an 8.38 of another shape (possibly O shape) will they have the same mold and wheelbase?

I have heard so, but have limited experience with Clutch wood - only had / seen a few.

@Buttfart Rapedick would know a lot more.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on May 02, 2021, 10:10:01 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2021, 02:22:42 AM

Quote from: HumBoogie on May 01, 2021, 06:03:10 AM
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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2021, 09:18:57 PM
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Quote from: Sila on April 30, 2021, 03:52:26 AM
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I'm still struggling to find decent blanks or shop boards here in Australia. Maybe the brimson an chime in on this one. Thankyou!
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I guess it comes down to what you like in terms of shape, concave, size and what is available, as things have been pretty topsy turvy at the moment, some boards being completely out of stock in AU, some minimally supplied, others with prices that have gone through the roof...

I definitely have info on options here in AU, discount codes and who has what on special as well.

Quote from: HumBoogie on April 30, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
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Had anyone ever had a stress skateboards deck? Just got one from my local and he said they are all hand screened. They have a little circle indentation with he size right under it on the top between the top truck holes. The wood and shape looks and feels alot like BBS. Has top middle and bottom color veneer.
[close]

If it is a letter and a number that is usually Clutch, letter O for the shape and number for the size.

They can and do feel closest to BBS wood too, or at least some I have do.
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I don't think it's clutch because it's not like k7 or any other combo it just has an indent of a dot and then has 8.38 indentation right below that.
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Does it look more like this? (This one being an 8.475 size deck)

This is a Baker board, same as Heroin, Birdhouse and Deathwish, all having the dot in the middle and the size stamp just below that, on the front truck area, which is BBS wood.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVKThDW/Baker-size-stamp-big.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ry9wgDS)

Yes this is exactly what it looks like. I kinda thought it was bbs but had to make sure lol. Thanks for the help man.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mcidraque on May 02, 2021, 11:54:22 AM

just got a couple UMA decks from spanish distributor and they had the "made in china" sticker on them. Distribution guy confirmed me they're actually made in Excel somewhere in china. Board skates great though. Don't know if this is going on for the "out of usa" ones or the whole production.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 02, 2021, 03:39:57 PM

Quote from: backinaction on May 01, 2021, 06:07:18 PM

Does Clutch use different molds for their different shapes? I am currently skating (and enjoying) an 8.38 K shape. If I pick up an 8.38 of another shape (possibly O shape) will they have the same mold and wheelbase?

I just checked a K and an O and I think they're the same. The K is a little steeper but its also basically new and the O has been skated a fair amount. It's close enough that it could be that or stack position. I don't actually have any other clutch right now but there's a definite difference in wheelbases between the shapes. I've had some of the tapered 8.25 shapes (P and I think G) that were 14.5, but the O7 (8.25) and O8 (8.37) are both 14.25 as is the K6 I have here.

I want to say there are other molds though because I had a Meridian deck that was fairly steep and between that and the 14.5wb I swore clutch off until I tried the O shape. I remember ghost popping like 50% of the time on that board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2021, 04:41:07 PM

Quote from: Mcidraque on May 02, 2021, 11:54:22 AM

just got a couple UMA decks from spanish distributor and they had the "made in china" sticker on them. Distribution guy confirmed me they're actually made in Excel somewhere in china. Board skates great though. Don't know if this is going on for the "out of usa" ones or the whole production.

Definitely BBS in USA from what I have heard and in Australia - seen and stood on them here - so that is interesting that the market there has Excel wood, Europe is it?

Is the concave more mellow or steep, kicks spooned or flat, if you know what I mean, or compared to any other known woodshop in the feel of the board?

Curious more than anything, but I know Excel have made a lot of the carbon / mixed material boards for other brands too (which hold up really well and people like skating).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: PhantomBased on May 03, 2021, 07:55:58 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 01:52:40 AM

The third and last post I was thinking of doing to keep the three here together was list the brands alphabetically with which woodshop they use after them, which might be ridiculous, but I know some people would find it way easier looking through a brand listing.

An excel sheet will be updated from the first thread when I can and then sorted and the output placed here (when I have enough updated info to add), so not quite as often as the first post but for now this will do easily enough, so here goes:

Last updated 30th April 2021

Brand Woodshop (Country)


151   ……….   ……….   BBS
5boro   ……….   ……….   South Central
917* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
917* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alien Workshop*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alien Workshop*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Alltimers   ……….   ……….   BBS
Almost   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Alva (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
American Nomad   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Antihero   ……….   ……….   BBS
April   ……….   ……….   BBS
Assault   ……….   ……….   Watson
Bacon   ……….   ……….   South Central
Baker   ……….   ……….   BBS
Birch   ……….   ……….   Control
Birdhouse   ……….   ……….   BBS
Black Label   ……….   ……….   BBS
Black Label (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blind   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Blockhead   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blood Wizard* -2020   ……….   ……….   PGI
Blood Wizard* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Blue   ……….   ……….   Prime
BLVD   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Brujaria   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Bryte   ……….   ……….   Prime
Business & Company   ……….   ……….   BBS
Carpet Co.   ……….   ……….   BBS
Chocolate   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Cliche   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Coda* -2020   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Coda* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Consolidated   ……….   ……….   PGI
Creature   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Cruzade   ……….   ……….   HLC
D.O.A   ……….   ……….   South Central
Darkroom   ……….   ……….   BBS
Darkstar   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Dead-End   ……….   ……….   Prime
Death   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Deathwish   ……….   ……….   BBS
DGK   ……….   ……….   BBS
Dieta   ……….   ……….   South Central
DNA   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Dog Town*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Dogtown* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Doom Sayers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Element* (until mid 2018)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Element* 2018+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Enjoi   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Evisen   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
F.S.C. (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fancy Lad   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Finesse   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Prime
Flip* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Flip* -2020 (US)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Flip* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Folklore Project   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Foundation(pro models)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Foundation*   ……….   ……….   Watson
Foundation* (2020)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Frog   ……….   ……….   BBS
Fucking Awesome* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Fucking Awesome* til 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
FUCT   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
G&S (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Girl*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Girl* 2021 (some boards)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Globe   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
GX1000   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Habitat*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Habitat*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Habitat* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Heroin   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hockey* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hockey* til 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Hoddle   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hook-Ups/JK Industries   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2019+2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Hotel Blue   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Isle*   -2020 ……….   ……….   BBS
Isle* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Jart   ……….   ……….   HLC
Krooked   ……….   ……….   BBS
Lamebrain   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Less Than Local   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lewis Cruise   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lifeblood   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Loser Machine   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Love.Sick   ……….   ……….   BBS
Lovenskate   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Lurkvillie   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Madness   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Magenta* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Magenta* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Maxallure   ……….   ……….   PGI
Meow   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Meridian*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Morning Bell   ……….   ……….   South Central
Neighborhood   ……….   ……….   Clutch
New Deal* Reimagined   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
New Deal* Reissues   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Northern Co.*   ……….   ……….   South Central
Northern Co.* (2018+)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Paisley   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Palace   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Pass-Port   ……….   ……….   BBS
Picture Show* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Pizza* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Pizza* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B (USA)*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Plan B* (Americas)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Play!   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Polar   ……….   ……….   BBS
Politic   ……….   ……….   South Central
Poolroom   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Powell   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Powell Peralta   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Premium   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Primitive* (US -2020)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Program   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Pure   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Quasi   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Raw Dog   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Real   ……….   ……….   BBS
Roger* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Rosaline (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Santa Cruz   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Sci Fi Fantasy   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram*   ……….   ……….   Watson
Scum Co.*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Scum Co.* 2021   ……….   ……….   Control
Scum Co.* 2019+   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Shake Junt (Baker)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Shorty's* -2020   ……….   ……….   Prime
Shortys* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Sk8Mafia   ……….   ……….   BBS
Sk8Mafia* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Skate Mental*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Skate Mental*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Skateboard Café   ……….   ……….   HLC
Slave $lave   ……….   ……….   BBS
Snack   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Sour   ……….   ……….   HLC
SOVRN* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Space Program   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Stereo (re-issue)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Stereo*   ……….   ……….   Prime
Strangelove   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (mostly)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   South Central
Studio   ……….   ……….   Control
Super 8   ……….   ……….   South Central
Superior   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Supreme*2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terminal Four (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Terror of Planet X * 2019+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terror of Planet X* -2018   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Thank You* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
The Killing Floor*    ……….   ……….   BBS
The National Skateboard Co.   ……….   ……….   HLC
Theories* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Theories* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Time (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Tired   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Tired*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Toy Machine*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Toy Machine* (2020)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Toy Machine* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Traffic* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Traffic* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Transportation Unit*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Uma Landsleds   ……….   ……….   BBS
Unity   ……….   ……….   BBS
Vacation   ……….   ……….   South Central
Vagrant   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Victoria (HK)   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Visit   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Weird Wood   ……….   ……….   South Central
Welcome* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Welcome* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Western Addition   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Witchcraft   ……….   ……….   BBS
WKND   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Worble   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
World Industries* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Prime
Zero*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Zero*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Zero* (EU/Asia)   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Zoo York   ……….   ……….   Chapman

Anyone know where atm click is made? I didn’t even know they were still a company but I just bought a pro shaped model 10 in board and was just curious.
Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 03:00:03 PM

Quote from: PhantomBased on May 03, 2021, 07:55:58 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 01:52:40 AM
Expand Quote
The third and last post I was thinking of doing to keep the three here together was list the brands alphabetically with which woodshop they use after them, which might be ridiculous, but I know some people would find it way easier looking through a brand listing.

An excel sheet will be updated from the first thread when I can and then sorted and the output placed here (when I have enough updated info to add), so not quite as often as the first post but for now this will do easily enough, so here goes:

Last updated 30th April 2021

Brand Woodshop (Country)


151   ……….   ……….   BBS
5boro   ……….   ……….   South Central
917* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
917* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alien Workshop*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alien Workshop*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Alltimers   ……….   ……….   BBS
Almost   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Alva (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
American Nomad   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Antihero   ……….   ……….   BBS
April   ……….   ……….   BBS
Assault   ……….   ……….   Watson
Bacon   ……….   ……….   South Central
Baker   ……….   ……….   BBS
Birch   ……….   ……….   Control
Birdhouse   ……….   ……….   BBS
Black Label   ……….   ……….   BBS
Black Label (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blind   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Blockhead   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blood Wizard* -2020   ……….   ……….   PGI
Blood Wizard* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Blue   ……….   ……….   Prime
BLVD   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Brujaria   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Bryte   ……….   ……….   Prime
Business & Company   ……….   ……….   BBS
Carpet Co.   ……….   ……….   BBS
Chocolate   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Cliche   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Coda* -2020   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Coda* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Consolidated   ……….   ……….   PGI
Creature   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Cruzade   ……….   ……….   HLC
D.O.A   ……….   ……….   South Central
Darkroom   ……….   ……….   BBS
Darkstar   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Dead-End   ……….   ……….   Prime
Death   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Deathwish   ……….   ……….   BBS
DGK   ……….   ……….   BBS
Dieta   ……….   ……….   South Central
DNA   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Dog Town*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Dogtown* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Doom Sayers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Element* (until mid 2018)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Element* 2018+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Enjoi   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Evisen   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
F.S.C. (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fancy Lad   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Finesse   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Prime
Flip* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Flip* -2020 (US)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Flip* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Folklore Project   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Foundation(pro models)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Foundation*   ……….   ……….   Watson
Foundation* (2020)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Frog   ……….   ……….   BBS
Fucking Awesome* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Fucking Awesome* til 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
FUCT   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
G&S (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Girl*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Girl* 2021 (some boards)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Globe   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
GX1000   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Habitat*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Habitat*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Habitat* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Heroin   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hockey* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hockey* til 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Hoddle   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hook-Ups/JK Industries   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2019+2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Hotel Blue   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Isle*   -2020 ……….   ……….   BBS
Isle* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Jart   ……….   ……….   HLC
Krooked   ……….   ……….   BBS
Lamebrain   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Less Than Local   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lewis Cruise   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lifeblood   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Loser Machine   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Love.Sick   ……….   ……….   BBS
Lovenskate   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Lurkvillie   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Madness   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Magenta* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Magenta* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Maxallure   ……….   ……….   PGI
Meow   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Meridian*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Morning Bell   ……….   ……….   South Central
Neighborhood   ……….   ……….   Clutch
New Deal* Reimagined   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
New Deal* Reissues   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Northern Co.*   ……….   ……….   South Central
Northern Co.* (2018+)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Paisley   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Palace   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Pass-Port   ……….   ……….   BBS
Picture Show* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Pizza* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Pizza* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B (USA)*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Plan B* (Americas)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Play!   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Polar   ……….   ……….   BBS
Politic   ……….   ……….   South Central
Poolroom   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Powell   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Powell Peralta   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Premium   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Primitive* (US -2020)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Program   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Pure   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Quasi   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Raw Dog   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Real   ……….   ……….   BBS
Roger* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Rosaline (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Santa Cruz   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Sci Fi Fantasy   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram*   ……….   ……….   Watson
Scum Co.*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Scum Co.* 2021   ……….   ……….   Control
Scum Co.* 2019+   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Shake Junt (Baker)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Shorty's* -2020   ……….   ……….   Prime
Shortys* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Sk8Mafia   ……….   ……….   BBS
Sk8Mafia* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Skate Mental*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Skate Mental*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Skateboard Café   ……….   ……….   HLC
Slave $lave   ……….   ……….   BBS
Snack   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Sour   ……….   ……….   HLC
SOVRN* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Space Program   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Stereo (re-issue)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Stereo*   ……….   ……….   Prime
Strangelove   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (mostly)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   South Central
Studio   ……….   ……….   Control
Super 8   ……….   ……….   South Central
Superior   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Supreme*2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terminal Four (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Terror of Planet X * 2019+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terror of Planet X* -2018   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Thank You* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
The Killing Floor*    ……….   ……….   BBS
The National Skateboard Co.   ……….   ……….   HLC
Theories* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Theories* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Time (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Tired   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Tired*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Toy Machine*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Toy Machine* (2020)   ……….   ……….   Misc China
Toy Machine* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Traffic* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Traffic* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Transportation Unit*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Uma Landsleds   ……….   ……….   BBS
Unity   ……….   ……….   BBS
Vacation   ……….   ……….   South Central
Vagrant   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Victoria (HK)   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Visit   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Weird Wood   ……….   ……….   South Central
Welcome* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Welcome* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Western Addition   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Witchcraft   ……….   ……….   BBS
WKND   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Worble   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
World Industries* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Prime
Zero*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Zero*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Zero* (EU/Asia)   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Zoo York   ……….   ……….   Chapman
[close]

Anyone know where atm click is made? I didn’t even know they were still a company but I just bought a pro shaped model 10 in board and was just curious.
Thanks

ATM has their own thing going...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 05:16:17 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 03:00:03 PM

Quote from: PhantomBased on May 03, 2021, 07:55:58 AM
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Anyone know where atm click is made? I didn’t even know they were still a company but I just bought a pro shaped model 10 in board and was just curious.
Thanks
[close]

ATM has their own thing going...

I had asked a few times and never got a straight answer, some people saying some was PGI / China wood, others saying some was BBS or other woodshop from Mexico, but if anyone had more of an idea, I would be stoked to have the info so I can add it to the listings.

Any close up pics of the deck, markings or even the sticker would be good too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on May 03, 2021, 06:57:08 PM

@Mbrimson88, speaking of PGI... if I recollect correct, fellow SLAPper & current head dude at Natural Koncepts, Josh Zickert indicated Natty Kon is produced by PGI, if’n you feel like yet another update.
Perhaps @jzradical can confirm this for the record?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 07:42:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 05:16:17 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 03:00:03 PM
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Quote from: PhantomBased on May 03, 2021, 07:55:58 AM
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Anyone know where atm click is made? I didn’t even know they were still a company but I just bought a pro shaped model 10 in board and was just curious.
Thanks
[close]

ATM has their own thing going...
[close]

I had asked a few times and never got a straight answer, some people saying some was PGI / China wood, others saying some was BBS or other woodshop from Mexico, but if anyone had more of an idea, I would be stoked to have the info so I can add it to the listings.

Any close up pics of the deck, markings or even the sticker would be good too.

Some of the new ones look like Clutch. Same little size stickers anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 07:58:09 PM

Interesting to see something like this too, looking up PGI and posts like this come up.

The Girl / Choc wood supplier just didn't seem like the Dalian Hauhong place, especially after looking at a video with very minimal branding and information from the marketing genius of that woodshop (not to mention different feeling wood) so I would actually tend to believe it is PGI more so than the other one, but what do I know...

Quote from: stevedave on July 21, 2017, 08:30:07 AM

Girl doesn't have their own woodshop. They use PGI, which does Girl/Choc, Skate Mental, Think (formerly), and a few other brands. They'll do boards for anyone if you can meet the minimums. And the boards come directly from China and are screened in their facility here in the US.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 07:59:32 PM

Quote from: Lou Strux on May 03, 2021, 06:57:08 PM

@Mbrimson88, speaking of PGI... if I recollect correct, fellow SLAPper & current head dude at Natural Koncepts, Josh Zickert indicated Natty Kon is produced by PGI, if’n you feel like yet another update.
Perhaps @jzradical can confirm this for the record?

Yes thanks - updated now and can correct if other info comes to light.

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 07:42:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 05:16:17 PM
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Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 03, 2021, 03:00:03 PM
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Quote from: PhantomBased on May 03, 2021, 07:55:58 AM
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Anyone know where atm click is made? I didn’t even know they were still a company but I just bought a pro shaped model 10 in board and was just curious.
Thanks
[close]

ATM has their own thing going...
[close]

I had asked a few times and never got a straight answer, some people saying some was PGI / China wood, others saying some was BBS or other woodshop from Mexico, but if anyone had more of an idea, I would be stoked to have the info so I can add it to the listings.

Any close up pics of the deck, markings or even the sticker would be good too.
[close]

Some of the new ones look like Clutch. Same little size stickers anyway.

Thank you - updated the list - much appreciated!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 08:00:58 PM

Still more woodshops coming up when I search, this one being Madrid, from about the same time I started crawling...

Madrid Skateboard Factory

Madrid Skateboard Factory🛹
🌴Huntington Beach CA
⚙️#ShapingSkateboarding Since 1976
🎬As Seen in #BackToTheFuture & @StrangerThingsTV📺
Made in USA
👇Shop our factory store
madridskateboards.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/COL2Yaor1nG/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Dan_562 on May 03, 2021, 08:28:11 PM

Madrid's old factory was near me back in the day (89-90?). There was a crack about deck wide between their neighboring building, and my friends crawled thru and found blemished decks in their trash can, hahaha.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mcidraque on May 04, 2021, 07:12:03 AM

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just got a couple UMA decks from spanish distributor and they had the "made in china" sticker on them. Distribution guy confirmed me they're actually made in Excel somewhere in china. Board skates great though. Don't know if this is going on for the "out of usa" ones or the whole production.
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Definitely BBS in USA from what I have heard and in Australia - seen and stood on them here - so that is interesting that the market there has Excel wood, Europe is it?

Is the concave more mellow or steep, kicks spooned or flat, if you know what I mean, or compared to any other known woodshop in the feel of the board?

Curious more than anything, but I know Excel have made a lot of the carbon / mixed material boards for other brands too (which hold up really well and people like skating).

despìte both being the same dimensions (width-lenght-wb) them both feel completelyh different

- maite-taped model: nose and tail definetly have the "concave"/spoon feel as some BBS i've had in the past (actually i was coming from a Black Label 8.25 and couldn't tell a big difference. Maybe just lenght wise.

- full dip ("hand model"): flatter over all and kicks with no concave (closer to some price points enjoi's i've had in the past)

can't tell this is happening all around erope but at least france/spain/portugal it is, since it's the same distribution

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: baustin on May 06, 2021, 09:37:04 PM

Does anyone happen to know the full dims of Chapman blank 8.2s and 8.1s? Thinking about grabbing some blanks since I’m on a budget but don’t want to risk ending up with a board I hate

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 06, 2021, 10:30:31 PM

Quote from: baustin on May 06, 2021, 09:37:04 PM

Does anyone happen to know the full dims of Chapman blank 8.2s and 8.1s? Thinking about grabbing some blanks since I’m on a budget but don’t want to risk ending up with a board I hate

People had said Chapman (who are not making boards anymore) are getting their boards from Clutch but I would be curious to know if this is still the case and what they do have for sale.

I follow their Instagram, but haven't heard or seen much from them really.

Have you hit them up on their website or other media?

http://www.chapmanskateboards.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 07, 2021, 02:11:17 AM

Quote from: baustin on May 06, 2021, 09:37:04 PM

Does anyone happen to know the full dims of Chapman blank 8.2s and 8.1s? Thinking about grabbing some blanks since I’m on a budget but don’t want to risk ending up with a board I hate

They're clutch blanks so it varies depending on what shape. The 8.2 O shape (the square shape) is around 31.5/31.6 and 14.25 while some of the more standard Popsicles are 31.8 or 32 and can be 14.25 or 14.5 depending on shape.

If you're on a budget and don't mind lightly used boards shoot me a PM with what you like and where you're located and I'll see what I can do. I skate 8.1/8.2 and am currently trying to whittle down my unreasonably large stock of decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 07, 2021, 06:00:18 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 07, 2021, 02:11:17 AM

Quote from: baustin on May 06, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
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Does anyone happen to know the full dims of Chapman blank 8.2s and 8.1s? Thinking about grabbing some blanks since I’m on a budget but don’t want to risk ending up with a board I hate
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They're clutch blanks so it varies depending on what shape. The 8.2 O shape (the square shape) is around 31.5/31.6 and 14.25 while some of the more standard Popsicles are 31.8 or 32 and can be 14.25 or 14.5 depending on shape.

If you're on a budget and don't mind lightly used boards shoot me a PM with what you like and where you're located and I'll see what I can do. I skate 8.1/8.2 and am currently trying to whittle down my unreasonably large stock of decks.

From a recent-ish conversation about the sizing on the Clutch blanks that they're using:

Quote from: Murge on November 09, 2020, 06:59:13 AM

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Does anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.

https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692
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Glenn Chapman sent me this a couple years ago. Same dimensions since they switched to Clutch AFAIK.

(https://i.imgur.com/x7XLbaG.png)
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Thank you so much!!

Edit. I just got an email and they must have changed some dims. I already ordered so I’m gonna skate them ha.I’ll live ha.

Click on it to see the whole chart (https://i.ibb.co/dGhtB6K/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dGhtB6K)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: baustin on May 07, 2021, 08:47:22 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on May 07, 2021, 06:00:18 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 07, 2021, 02:11:17 AM
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Does anyone happen to know the full dims of Chapman blank 8.2s and 8.1s? Thinking about grabbing some blanks since I’m on a budget but don’t want to risk ending up with a board I hate
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They're clutch blanks so it varies depending on what shape. The 8.2 O shape (the square shape) is around 31.5/31.6 and 14.25 while some of the more standard Popsicles are 31.8 or 32 and can be 14.25 or 14.5 depending on shape.

If you're on a budget and don't mind lightly used boards shoot me a PM with what you like and where you're located and I'll see what I can do. I skate 8.1/8.2 and am currently trying to whittle down my unreasonably large stock of decks.
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From a recent-ish conversation about the sizing on the Clutch blanks that they're using:

Quote from: Murge on November 09, 2020, 06:59:13 AM
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Quote from: FrozenIndustries on November 09, 2020, 06:30:18 AM
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Quote from: Murge on November 09, 2020, 05:40:12 AM
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Does anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.

https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692
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Glenn Chapman sent me this a couple years ago. Same dimensions since they switched to Clutch AFAIK.

(https://i.imgur.com/x7XLbaG.png)
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Thank you so much!!

Edit. I just got an email and they must have changed some dims. I already ordered so I’m gonna skate them ha.I’ll live ha.

Click on it to see the whole chart (https://i.ibb.co/dGhtB6K/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dGhtB6K)
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Much appreciated for all the info! PM’d you @Buttfart

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 07, 2021, 10:09:57 AM

Nice pic of the top of an Uma deck courtesy of Jef Hartsel. Which woodshop is this?

(https://i.ibb.co/rvLMbKF/Screenshot-20210507-100648.png) (https://ibb.co/rvLMbKF)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: camel filters on May 07, 2021, 10:27:22 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 07, 2021, 10:09:57 AM

Nice pic of the top of an Uma deck courtesy of Jef Hartsel. Which woodshop is this?

(https://i.ibb.co/rvLMbKF/Screenshot-20210507-100648.png) (https://ibb.co/rvLMbKF)

First post of first page gets updated and Uma is BBS according to that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on May 07, 2021, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2021, 08:00:58 PM

Still more woodshops coming up when I search, this one being Madrid, from about the same time I started crawling...

Madrid Skateboard Factory

Madrid Skateboard Factory&#128761;
&#127796;Huntington Beach CA
⚙️#ShapingSkateboarding Since 1976
&#127916;As Seen in #BackToTheFuture & @StrangerThingsTV&#128250;
Made in USA
&#128071;Shop our factory store
madridskateboards.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/COL2Yaor1nG/

In addition to their own boards, they also make masters and jigs for other brands.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 08, 2021, 02:20:19 AM

Dunno how I missed this one but there appear to be some clutch wknd boards on the market. Not the new ones (those are PS) but rather the run before that where I think they reran some old graphics. Just noticed it while perusing the Zumiez site (which oddly enough is one of the better places to get info since they take actual top pics.. Definitely don't trust their listed measurements though, they're usually wrong).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 01:58:08 PM

IS
Does PS Stix have a smoking dog wearing a hat stamp on top sheet between front bolts, made in Mexico?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on May 11, 2021, 03:20:56 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 01:58:08 PM

IS
Does PS Stix have a smoking dog wearing a hat stamp on top sheet between front bolts, made in Mexico?

A smoking dog?
I don’t know what shop that is, but can I get a picture?
A dog smoking? What a lark!
Whatever will those wacky skateboarders dream up next?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 11, 2021, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Lou Strux on May 11, 2021, 03:20:56 PM

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Does PS Stix have a smoking dog wearing a hat stamp on top sheet between front bolts, made in Mexico?
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A smoking dog?
I don’t know what shop that is, but can I get a picture?
A dog smoking? What a lark!
Whatever will those wacky skateboarders dream up next?

It sounds a lot cooler than it is. I like the idea of a side view of a Labrador smoking a pipe wearing a trucker hat.

But no, it is actually Snoopy's cousin Spike, and it is not woodshop specific but an FA logo that is on all their boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2021, 06:46:13 PM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on May 11, 2021, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Lou Strux on May 11, 2021, 03:20:56 PM
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Does PS Stix have a smoking dog wearing a hat stamp on top sheet between front bolts, made in Mexico?
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A smoking dog?
I don’t know what shop that is, but can I get a picture?
A dog smoking? What a lark!
Whatever will those wacky skateboarders dream up next?
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It sounds a lot cooler than it is. I like the idea of a side view of a Labrador smoking a pipe wearing a trucker hat.

But no, it is actually Snoopy's cousin Spike, and it is not woodshop specific but an FA logo that is on all their boards.

I was thinking some one would give the correct answer, and you did.

Yes that is the same on PS Stix (older) and BBS (newer) wood, both have Made in Mexico too, but PS wood has SN# PS19393930 on it too.

I had pics of both of those somewhere, but couldn't tell you where right this minute.

Here is the generic PS Stix top to show anyway.

(https://i.ibb.co/5rzZSXK/PS-Stix-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3M8sGj)

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Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

(https://i.ibb.co/5R36fZN/SMOKINDOG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R36fZN)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2021, 07:17:56 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

Ha, yeah that is the one.

BBS wood for sure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:22:25 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

(https://i.ibb.co/5R36fZN/SMOKINDOG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R36fZN)

...So BBS I take it, due to no serial#s?
Guess thats okay, was kinda hoping to give PS Stix a go to switch it up, been on REAL for many moons.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:25:41 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2021, 07:17:56 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM
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Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

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Ha, yeah that is the one.

BBS wood for sure.

Thanks M8!...Guess its the professor thing ;) and the history of Paul's that makes me think his shop would be better than BBS...?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on May 11, 2021, 07:31:49 PM

I think The skateboard factory aka customskateboards.com should also be added. They have their own factory in Huntington beach

Their boards are pretty good. Also if you ever bit the bullet on some weird promo board from an event or band, they probably made it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:09 PM

Quote from: TwisT on May 11, 2021, 07:31:49 PM

I think The skateboard factory aka customskateboards.com should also be added. They have their own factory in Huntington beach

Their boards are pretty good. Also if you ever bit the bullet on some weird promo board from an event or band, they probably made it.

Added - thanks!

Some others I have looked up seem like they have a lot going on, but don't actually make the boards themselves, so are only a reseller of where ever they get the boards from, so I hadn't put them on the list, even though others have sent a DM about them or similar things.

It is amazing how many people and places actually make boards, but I also wonder on what scale some are, compared to the X thousand each day to the maybe X thousand a year if that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: backinaction on May 11, 2021, 10:47:54 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

(https://i.ibb.co/5R36fZN/SMOKINDOG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R36fZN)

That dog is Spike. Snoopy’s brother. I’m going back to 1980 with that memory.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: mbam003 on May 11, 2021, 11:20:40 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:

(https://i.ibb.co/5R36fZN/SMOKINDOG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R36fZN)

This is 100% BBS, already answered before and your deck is a FA.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on May 12, 2021, 09:49:41 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Blvd-Skateboards-Transit-Montoya-8-Inch/dp/B00LEG5LOO/ref=lp_9379366011_1_7?s=specialty-aps

The pangs of nostalgia got me thinking of Listen / BLVD skateboards. Ownership changed hands recently but I'm looking at the older models with Supa, Toya, Peterson and Gonzalez. Anyone know which shop does boards with 2 alignment dots? And what are the general dims / board shape?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81h%2BkWSmAYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

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Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 12, 2021, 11:27:13 AM

Not the two dots but the marks below it vaguely look like a Clutch shape number.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 12, 2021, 08:22:31 PM

Thanks to all the replies.
I was hoping it would have been a PS Stix older FA, wanted to see what they were like; BBS I know and its my standard.
...Snoops cousin, ha! Dill is such a pickle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Kneesles on May 12, 2021, 08:50:54 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 12, 2021, 09:49:41 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Blvd-Skateboards-Transit-Montoya-8-Inch/dp/B00LEG5LOO/ref=lp_9379366011_1_7?s=specialty-aps

The pangs of nostalgia got me thinking of Listen / BLVD skateboards. Ownership changed hands recently but I'm looking at the older models with Supa, Toya, Peterson and Gonzalez. Anyone know which shop does boards with 2 alignment dots? And what are the general dims / board shape?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81h%2BkWSmAYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

That's a clutch deck. I was riding BLVD decks for a bit and they used to be clutch decks, the 8.375 was always the S7 shape that Stereo and Birdhouse used to use but the last 8.25 i picked up last summer was from a different wood shop. I'm guessing it was a china deck. It had a lot more concave in both the kicks and mid section and had 8.25 stamped in the center of the rear truck mount. I haven't gotten around to skating it since i was on a mellow deck kick for a while but seemed like it wasn't as nice as the clutch wood, not as dry/crisp... I honestly have had great experiences with clutch decks, they seem to hold up a little better than the bbs boards i've been riding lately. I swear they get stronger as they age too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on May 12, 2021, 11:34:04 PM

Quote from: Kneesles on May 12, 2021, 08:50:54 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 12, 2021, 09:49:41 AM
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https://www.amazon.com/Blvd-Skateboards-Transit-Montoya-8-Inch/dp/B00LEG5LOO/ref=lp_9379366011_1_7?s=specialty-aps

The pangs of nostalgia got me thinking of Listen / BLVD skateboards. Ownership changed hands recently but I'm looking at the older models with Supa, Toya, Peterson and Gonzalez. Anyone know which shop does boards with 2 alignment dots? And what are the general dims / board shape?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81h%2BkWSmAYL._AC_SL1500_s.jpg)
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That's a clutch deck. I was riding BLVD decks for a bit and they used to be clutch decks, the 8.375 was always the S7 shape that Stereo and Birdhouse used to use but the last 8.25 i picked up last summer was from a different wood shop. I'm guessing it was a china deck. It had a lot more concave in both the kicks and mid section and had 8.25 stamped in the center of the rear truck mount. I haven't gotten around to skating it since i was on a mellow deck kick for a while but seemed like it wasn't as nice as the clutch wood, not as dry/crisp... I honestly have had great experiences with clutch decks, they seem to hold up a little better than the bbs boards i've been riding lately. I swear they get stronger as they age too.

I know they Rob G sold the brand off late last year, it's being run out of Brazil now I believe and they do boards with a fiberglass top laminate. These were definitely flatter all across, not my first choice of board.

The ones I'm looking at are the older ones when the US team was still on. But thanks for the insight on the Clutch decks, I'll check out their IG for the dims on the 8.125 & 8.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2021, 02:54:19 AM

Updated the list with a few more.

I had BLVD listed as Woodchuck, so not sure when that was from.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2021, 02:55:44 AM

Can anyone tell me the difference / who exactly is ASF Manufacturing, as I know it had been referred to as Clutch ASF before, but in going through things I think it would be good to clarify.

Clutch deleted their Instagram a while back, but there are other people and accounts I had been following and had looked up, including ASF and Julio De La Cruz believing they are all related.

https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

ASF Manufacturing
Product/Service
High Quality Skateboard Manufacturing.
Premium American Maple.
In house Digital UV Printing.
Largest Shape Selection.
Brands & Distributors Only.
www.asfdistribution.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvgvnNFXCb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0CqFpB3Jp/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TheBoognish on May 13, 2021, 06:36:33 AM

Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?

I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.

It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks) and it’s the widest 8.25 i’ve ever had, it’s somewhere in between an old 8.38 Killing Floor that’s on my wall and an 8.5 Passport I skated. I can’t find my tape measure, so I can’t measure it to the exact mm, but it’s wide for an 8.25

I wanted it for my wall, but those paint leak marks shine weird in the light.

I’ll be sticking to South Central once again, I find them to be the most consistent.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Firebert on May 13, 2021, 07:11:02 AM

Quote from: TheBoognish on May 13, 2021, 06:36:33 AM

Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?

I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.

It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks)

The Roman Numeral is standard for DLXSF boards - its the number of the board on the press. (I-IV).
Pretty sure the "paint" leaking you are describing is just the dye on the veneers traveling through the glue and merging with the next veneer, because they don't actually use paint like other companies that screen-print their graphics, I think all of bbs are heat-transfers. As for the size - let's see what the tape says - heard a few recently about them printing graphics on the wrong shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2021, 03:40:50 AM

Quote from: Firebert on May 13, 2021, 07:11:02 AM

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Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?

I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.

It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks)
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The Roman Numeral is standard for DLXSF boards - its the number of the board on the press. (I-IV).
Pretty sure the "paint" leaking you are describing is just the dye on the veneers traveling through the glue and merging with the next veneer, because they don't actually use paint like other companies that screen-print their graphics, I think all of bbs are heat-transfers. As for the size - let's see what the tape says - heard a few recently about them printing graphics on the wrong shape.

Firebert has it all covered - good answer :) - but I would be curious to see pics of the deck and what you are meaning regarding paint. As far as board size, a popular thread for this sort of thing is this one:

DLX board sizes are always off

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114805.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Xen on May 14, 2021, 09:44:00 AM

Quote from: Firebert on May 13, 2021, 07:11:02 AM

Quote from: TheBoognish on May 13, 2021, 06:36:33 AM
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Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?

I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.

It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks)
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The Roman Numeral is standard for DLXSF boards - its the number of the board on the press. (I-IV).
Pretty sure the "paint" leaking you are describing is just the dye on the veneers traveling through the glue and merging with the next veneer, because they don't actually use paint like other companies that screen-print their graphics, I think all of bbs are heat-transfers. As for the size - let's see what the tape says - heard a few recently about them printing graphics on the wrong shape.

My last two DLX <pandemic> boards have not had the roman numeral and they are 'new' pro boards (could be old stock planks with new paint tho).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: pointandclick on May 14, 2021, 10:27:05 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2021, 02:55:44 AM

Can anyone tell me the difference / who exactly is ASF Manufacturing, as I know it had been referred to as Clutch ASF before, but in going through things I think it would be good to clarify.

Clutch deleted their Instagram a while back, but there are other people and accounts I had been following and had looked up, including ASF and Julio De La Cruz believing they are all related.

https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

ASF Manufacturing
Product/Service
High Quality Skateboard Manufacturing.
Premium American Maple.
In house Digital UV Printing.
Largest Shape Selection.
Brands & Distributors Only.
www.asfdistribution.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvgvnNFXCb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0CqFpB3Jp/

clutch was/is the distro, asf is the woodshop. similar to bbs being the mfg and generator being the customer facing distro.
iheard p-rod/primitive bought clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on May 14, 2021, 03:54:28 PM

Quote from: pointandclick on May 14, 2021, 10:27:05 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2021, 02:55:44 AM
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Can anyone tell me the difference / who exactly is ASF Manufacturing, as I know it had been referred to as Clutch ASF before, but in going through things I think it would be good to clarify.

Clutch deleted their Instagram a while back, but there are other people and accounts I had been following and had looked up, including ASF and Julio De La Cruz believing they are all related.

https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

ASF Manufacturing
Product/Service
High Quality Skateboard Manufacturing.
Premium American Maple.
In house Digital UV Printing.
Largest Shape Selection.
Brands & Distributors Only.
www.asfdistribution.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvgvnNFXCb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0CqFpB3Jp/
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clutch was/is the distro, asf is the woodshop. similar to bbs being the mfg and generator being the customer facing distro.
iheard p-rod/primitive bought clutch

Source? Big if true.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on May 16, 2021, 07:20:29 AM

This press date on these cowtown boards are neat. Anyone know who does this?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CO3_y7iARhv/?igshid=1niveat4q7xbl

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on May 16, 2021, 01:48:49 PM

Quote from: TwisT on May 16, 2021, 07:20:29 AM

This press date on these cowtown boards are neat. Anyone know who does this?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CO3_y7iARhv/?igshid=1niveat4q7xbl

Looks like it's done at someone's house who goes by the name of Grandma Skateboards

https://www.instagram.com/grandmaskateboards/

If you're going to support Made in USA, this is probably your best option (small, at-home workshops in general). Looks like he's in Albuquerque, NM.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM

Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 22, 2021, 02:52:32 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM

Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)

He seemed to imply that he genuinely didn’t know which woodshop it’s from and that he only knows it’s from China. Does that narrow down the options? How many Chinese woodshops are there?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 03:20:10 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 22, 2021, 02:52:32 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM
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Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)
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He seemed to imply that he genuinely didn’t know which woodshop it’s from and that he only knows it’s from China. Does that narrow down the options? How many Chinese woodshops are there?

A few I guess.
I'm just curious because he said that these are the best boards they ever had in the shop. Thats s big statement in my opinion. So I would love to try one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: LewFarrell on May 22, 2021, 03:54:31 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM

Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)

The dims on this match up exactly with a deck Element has put out. Maybe it's the same shop they use for Europe/PP. I'm in Canada and have ordered from Canada Skate Shop before but the WB on these is too long for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on May 22, 2021, 07:26:18 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 14, 2021, 03:54:28 PM

Quote from: pointandclick on May 14, 2021, 10:27:05 AM
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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2021, 02:55:44 AM
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Can anyone tell me the difference / who exactly is ASF Manufacturing, as I know it had been referred to as Clutch ASF before, but in going through things I think it would be good to clarify.

Clutch deleted their Instagram a while back, but there are other people and accounts I had been following and had looked up, including ASF and Julio De La Cruz believing they are all related.

https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

ASF Manufacturing
Product/Service
High Quality Skateboard Manufacturing.
Premium American Maple.
In house Digital UV Printing.
Largest Shape Selection.
Brands & Distributors Only.
www.asfdistribution.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvgvnNFXCb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0CqFpB3Jp/
[close]
clutch was/is the distro, asf is the woodshop. similar to bbs being the mfg and generator being the customer facing distro.
iheard p-rod/primitive bought clutch
[close]

Source? Big if true.

Wow. Good for Paul.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 22, 2021, 07:58:17 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM

Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)

DSM and whoever PGI and girl get their boards from both do this. Stain looks more like PGI, but the shape and 14.25 wb don't really fit unless they got some new molds. Could just be another mystery china woodshop though

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM

Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on May 22, 2021, 10:29:09 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 22, 2021, 07:58:17 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM
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Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)
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DSM and whoever PGI and girl get their boards from both do this. Stain looks more like PGI, but the shape and 14.25 wb don't really fit unless they got some new molds. Could just be another mystery china woodshop though

Way too many woodshops in China to pinpoint but it looks like one of the better ones that aren't PGI or DSM, though DSM has been working with smaller brands in Asia to put out local boards. DSM usually put the little green sticker on the rails with the cardboard insert.

I'm riding one from a China woodshop and the wood is really solid even after 3 weeks and heavy abuse (slamming frontside lipslides). Super steep kicks and concave, almost unforgiving for the first week.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:40:04 PM

I had been meaning to put up known woodshop tops with distinguishing info / laser engraving or other info, but this is a start from a while ago now, BBS for Element, but all their decks have "Made in Mexico" engraving / sticker too, as do PS Stix.

I guess that is not too hard to fake, but compared to the "Made in China" engraving or sticker on some of the more well known woodshops in China, or more commonly nothing at all from the unknown woodshops, they don't list where the decks are made.

The new Zero decks appear to be very similar to the newer Toy Machine decks here in Australia, nothing distinguishing on the deck at all, and Made in China on the sticker that also has the dimension info. Still listed as top prices too, which is sad if they really are just cheaper boards from another unknown woodshop in China. They could hold up well enough though, but I will never get one so I don't know.

Not too many other changes I have seen here from some of the skate shops I have been in, but Primitive all seem to be made in China now, which has already been mentioned before. Funny if that is the case seeing as other comments have been along the lines of Clutch woodshop purchase but who knows.

Anyway, as said, this deck is BBS from a while ago, but info is listed in a different way to the other one posted above.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEYeJHold0o/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM

Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM

Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape

A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: alraunen on May 23, 2021, 01:36:36 AM

My wife got me a tired board for my birthday

(https://i.ibb.co/v1vj5RF/06-AEF721-B30-D-4-DD1-971-B-96-B1-EAC337-F4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhZrKsN)
(https://es.imgbb.com/)

They used to be PS Stix but never seen this marks before

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: backinaction on May 23, 2021, 07:02:37 AM

Quote from: alraunen on May 23, 2021, 01:36:36 AM

My wife got me a tired board for my birthday

(https://i.ibb.co/v1vj5RF/06-AEF721-B30-D-4-DD1-971-B-96-B1-EAC337-F4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhZrKsN)
(https://es.imgbb.com/)

They used to be PS Stix but never seen this marks before

Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on May 23, 2021, 09:54:31 AM

Anybody knows where Poetic comes from? I thought it was HLC since is an European brand.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: alraunen on May 23, 2021, 10:54:54 AM

Quote from: backinaction on May 23, 2021, 07:02:37 AM

Quote from: alraunen on May 23, 2021, 01:36:36 AM
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My wife got me a tired board for my birthday

(https://i.ibb.co/v1vj5RF/06-AEF721-B30-D-4-DD1-971-B-96-B1-EAC337-F4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhZrKsN)
(https://es.imgbb.com/)

They used to be PS Stix but never seen this marks before
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Clutch.

Thanks! I guess that brands make boards whatever they can nowadays...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Bold on May 23, 2021, 11:26:29 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM

Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
[close]

A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)

How can the 7.75 and 8" decks be the same length? The nose and tail are both 1/8" longer on the 8" deck. Shouldn't the overall length be 1/4" longer?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 23, 2021, 12:11:13 PM

Quote from: Bold on May 23, 2021, 11:26:29 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM
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Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
[close]

A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)
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How can the 7.75 and 8" decks be the same length? The nose and tail are both 1/8" longer on the 8" deck. Shouldn't the overall length be 1/4" longer?

There can be some variation if they're measuring with concave depending on how steep it is, but usually not that much. It's probably a typo.

That being said it's pretty useless since clutch has different dims for each shape, so unless you're getting the exact shape that chart is for (which isn't specified) then it's probably going to be different. For example an O7 (8.25) is going to be around 31.5 or 31.6 length (t2t, no concave) with a 14.25wb while some of the more standard popsicle shaped 8.25s I've had (k/p/c shapes) have been 31.75 or 32 length and 14.5 wb. They've got something like a dozen popsicle stock shapes, and then a whole other slew of shaped boards. I'd either go to a shop with a measuring tape or ask for specifics from the company using them.

Just ballparking based on past clutch decks I've had, if it's one of the standard popsicles then I'd estimate the 8 will be somewhere around 31.7/8 and the 7.75 will be around 31.6. WB could be anything from 14-14.5, but I'd guess probably towards the lower end.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 23, 2021, 01:30:03 PM

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 12, 2021, 08:22:31 PM

Thanks to all the replies.
I was hoping it would have been a PS Stix older FA, wanted to see what they were like; BBS I know and its my standard.
...Snoops cousin, ha! Dill is such a pickle.

@SHHHH,ITSDONE If you REALLY want to try one you can still get the PS ones on like grailed and ebay, but they're mostly from "reseller" kids who don't skate and think their FA deck is worth $200 because at one point they were the cool new thing (which is unfortunately now happening with strangelove as well). The last PS board was the Berle brothers slick, and the last class photo PS board was Berle as well.

Alternatively, if you're more interested in the wood/shape then the Snack square shape is pretty much the same thing. I think the new gkode chain and silver "most fried" decks are both on that shape. The only PS FA board I have left is a full dip berle class photo and the dims are 8.25" x 31.6" (just barely over 31.5 but I'll call it .6), 14.25" wb 6.5"T 7"N, so overall its a bit shorter and has a slightly shorter nose than the BBS. It's quite steep for a PS board but mine is a bit mellower than a BBS and the tail angle isn't as severe as steep. Nose is about the same.

You'll hear differing opinions on PS wood based on what people put a priority on and consider to be "good" wood. It's definitely different from BBS though. PS wood isn't as stiff and has a bit of flex to it, which makes it very light and snappy feeling. Some people mistake it for being "soggy" (I think because of the flex) but fresh PS wood is unmatched in pop in my opinion. The biggest negative is it's durability... it does razor tail and flatten out faster than BBS, so if you're the type of person who feels like they've been ripped off if they don't get 3 months out of a deck then it might not be the best choice. If you change decks fairly often or are one of those sick fucks who actually likes skating razor tailed decks then I would definitely recommend it.

One other thing to note - this won't be much of an issue if you go with the snack or another steep mold, but PS decks tend to be mellower and "flatter" than anything BBS makes. They don't have the big spoony pockets and usually have a much more subtle and gradual transition to the kicks, with fair bit of flat or almost flat space behind the bolts on a lot of the molds. There's also usually quite a bit of difference between the nose and tail angles, with PS tails tending to be quite a bit more mellow than either the nose or the tail of a BBS board. This makes the the tail hit the ground faster and is a big part of the snappy, responsive feel I mentioned earlier. It's great for old dudes who don't have the strength or stamina to consistently push a steep tail down over and over, or just people who prefer a flatter board.

If you have any questions or need some help finding one let me know. I keep a fairly close eye on all the PS wood that comes to market since it's my preferred manufacturer (other than south central, but only the E mold).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on May 23, 2021, 03:30:25 PM

Primitive switching to something other than BBS wasn't the best idea - I can already attest to at least one team rider trading boards for Anti Hero because he doesn't like the wood now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2021, 02:22:03 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 23, 2021, 12:11:13 PM

Quote from: Bold on May 23, 2021, 11:26:29 AM
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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM
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Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
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A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

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How can the 7.75 and 8" decks be the same length? The nose and tail are both 1/8" longer on the 8" deck. Shouldn't the overall length be 1/4" longer?
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There can be some variation if they're measuring with concave depending on how steep it is, but usually not that much. It's probably a typo.

That being said it's pretty useless since clutch has different dims for each shape, so unless you're getting the exact shape that chart is for (which isn't specified) then it's probably going to be different. For example an O7 (8.25) is going to be around 31.5 or 31.6 length (t2t, no concave) with a 14.25wb while some of the more standard popsicle shaped 8.25s I've had (k/p/c shapes) have been 31.75 or 32 length and 14.5 wb. They've got something like a dozen popsicle stock shapes, and then a whole other slew of shaped boards. I'd either go to a shop with a measuring tape or ask for specifics from the company using them.

Just ballparking based on past clutch decks I've had, if it's one of the standard popsicles then I'd estimate the 8 will be somewhere around 31.7/8 and the 7.75 will be around 31.6. WB could be anything from 14-14.5, but I'd guess probably towards the lower end.

I definitely noticed inconsistencies on that chart too but someone else posted it and it was the closest thing to what was asked for.

Funny how some are longer or shorter which just does not add up, eg more so on the two wider boards as that is my size, but the K shape in 8.5 I have is correct to those dimensions, with a 14.5 wheelbase and decent kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: j....soy..... on May 24, 2021, 07:00:13 AM

Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 24, 2021, 07:05:13 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 24, 2021, 07:00:13 AM

Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....

Truth.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2021, 07:12:56 PM

Seems like to some it could be the other way round, but the location of manufacture is nowhere near as important as the quality of the product.

If there are decent boards coming out of some seemingly unknown woodshops, that is a good thing, but often the lack of transparency clouds the judgement or the fact that cheap or lower quality woodshops still exist in areas.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on May 24, 2021, 09:22:51 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2021, 07:12:56 PM

Seems like to some it could be the other way round, but the location of manufacture is nowhere near as important as the quality of the product.

If there are decent boards coming out of some seemingly unknown woodshops, that is a good thing, but often the lack of transparency clouds the judgement or the fact that cheap or lower quality woodshops still exist in areas.

For sure. Location does not matter.

Woodshops in Mexico are still being run by people who live in SoCal and have been in the business for decades, therefore they usually put out fairly consistent products. They're in Mexico for cheaper labor. DSM is a good woodshop in China because Rodney set it up his way to get things done correctly. It's also in China because of labor costs. A lot of wood still travels from the Great Lakes to China, which can be quite costly. I have heard that some China shops (for some big brands) are using actual wood from China, so that is...interesting.

Just find a board with concave, shape and graphics you like. If you want to support small woodshops being run out of people's houses, that's cool too. I wouldn't worry too much if your board is coming from this shop, that shop or another shop. Some shops make a more consistent product than others, but no shop is putting out 100% perfect skateboards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on May 24, 2021, 10:23:49 PM

Quote from: ManimalChin on May 24, 2021, 09:22:51 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
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Seems like to some it could be the other way round, but the location of manufacture is nowhere near as important as the quality of the product.

If there are decent boards coming out of some seemingly unknown woodshops, that is a good thing, but often the lack of transparency clouds the judgement or the fact that cheap or lower quality woodshops still exist in areas.
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For sure. Location does not matter.

Woodshops in Mexico are still being run by people who live in SoCal and have been in the business for decades, therefore they usually put out fairly consistent products. They're in Mexico for cheaper labor. DSM is a good woodshop in China because Rodney set it up his way to get things done correctly. It's also in China because of labor costs. A lot of wood still travels from the Great Lakes to China, which can be quite costly. I have heard that some China shops (for some big brands) are using actual wood from China, so that is...interesting.

Just find a board with concave, shape and graphics you like. If you want to support small woodshops being run out of people's houses, that's cool too. I wouldn't worry too much if your board is coming from this shop, that shop or another shop. Some shops make a more consistent product than others, but no shop is putting out 100% perfect skateboards.

I've heard that there's lots of Grey naming with it comes to maple. In terms of maple quality from worst to best quality - China, North America / Canadian, Russian; something about the colder climate producing harder wood? Even if a China woodshop says it uses Canadian maple, it could be from trees cultivated in China. So take terms like 100% Canadian maple with a grain of salt.

Not a maple scientist, just stuff from the grapevine

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: j....soy..... on May 24, 2021, 11:39:59 PM

I just think with crail they lay ups and quality seem consistent but the PS stuff hasn't been as good as it used to be.....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 25, 2021, 03:12:26 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 24, 2021, 07:00:13 AM

Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....

Is anything other than the Jeron black fist on PS? I'd definitely be interested in skating a PS girl deck. The only one I have is one of the Jovantae reissue 7.5 and it's great but just too small for me to regularly skate. If they're doing 8.1 or 8.2 on that mold I'll be stoked as fuck. Hope it isn't just a one-off special edition like the Jovantae and Carroll bruised heels were.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Murge on May 25, 2021, 06:57:57 AM

Has people been having issues with bbs lately? Ive heard a few people at the park mention their decks was breaking fast felt soggy etc. all of which was real decks that they mentioned I had a krooked but it wasn’t that bad just chipped easily. It’s kinda putting me off of buying BBS right now. Has anyone else had this happen or heard of i or maybe this is just an isolated incident?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 25, 2021, 07:07:55 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 25, 2021, 03:12:26 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 24, 2021, 07:00:13 AM
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Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....
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Is anything other than the Jeron black fist on PS? I'd definitely be interested in skating a PS girl deck. The only one I have is one of the Jovantae reissue 7.5 and it's great but just too small for me to regularly skate. If they're doing 8.1 or 8.2 on that mold I'll be stoked as fuck. Hope it isn't just a one-off special edition like the Jovantae and Carroll bruised heels were.

From that Girl wood thread from a while back, someone had quite a few in all sizes online from their shop, or the Girl website itself, but something makes me think it might have been Canada, more so than USA.

Found it, from Jan 2021 so pretty old now and the links don't work to the 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 sizes listed, but this was the post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.msg3488167;topicseen#msg3488167

Quote from: Murge on May 25, 2021, 06:57:57 AM

Has people been having issues with bbs lately? Ive heard a few people at the park mention their decks was breaking fast felt soggy etc. all of which was real decks that they mentioned I had a krooked but it wasn’t that bad just chipped easily. It’s kinda putting me off of buying BBS right now. Has anyone else had this happen or heard of i or maybe this is just an isolated incident?

Yes it has definitely been noted by more than a few people, so maybe the process was rushed in getting wood out to fill orders or whatever it was and not leaving them to cure for long enough. All the BBS boards that I have had since covid shutdowns have been fine, but I don't skate that hard really, including both pro wood and price point decks (but all are DLX boards from all three AH, Real and Krooked).

Also note the price points seem like they have softer wood than the pro boards, so if it is a team edition with only one coloured layer, or all natural, then it probably is the cheaper board, especially those Skate Shop Day decks, which had quite a few issues.

Quote from: ManimalChin on May 24, 2021, 09:22:51 PM

For sure. Location does not matter.

Some shops make a more consistent product than others, but no shop is putting out 100% perfect skateboards.

Agreed. Just copied these lines, which tie in with the question from Murge too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 25, 2021, 01:24:41 PM

Quote from: Murge on May 25, 2021, 06:57:57 AM

Has people been having issues with bbs lately? Ive heard a few people at the park mention their decks was breaking fast felt soggy etc. all of which was real decks that they mentioned I had a krooked but it wasn’t that bad just chipped easily. It’s kinda putting me off of buying BBS right now. Has anyone else had this happen or heard of i or maybe this is just an isolated incident?

I have a similar experience with my current Anti Hero. The shape is nice and all but the wood itself feels really soft (chipping easily, sharp edges cut of little pieces of wood).
Around 20 sessions in now and feels like it is on it's last end.

The Anti Hero from my homie broke after 10 sessions, but to be fair, he stomped directly in the middle at a pop shuv attempt. I think every deck will break if you land like that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 25, 2021, 08:07:41 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 25, 2021, 01:24:41 PM

Quote from: Murge on May 25, 2021, 06:57:57 AM
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Has people been having issues with bbs lately? Ive heard a few people at the park mention their decks was breaking fast felt soggy etc. all of which was real decks that they mentioned I had a krooked but it wasn’t that bad just chipped easily. It’s kinda putting me off of buying BBS right now. Has anyone else had this happen or heard of i or maybe this is just an isolated incident?
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I have a similar experience with my current Anti Hero. The shape is nice and all but the wood itself feels really soft (chipping easily, sharp edges cut of little pieces of wood).
Around 20 sessions in now and feels like it is on it's last end.

The Anti Hero from my homie broke after 10 sessions, but to be fair, he stomped directly in the middle at a pop shuv attempt. I think every deck will break if you land like that.

The last BBS I bought was a real oval or one of the mason 8.28 (with the gonz art), both around the same time. Neither has felt any different to me but I haven't really skated the oval much (8.12 x 31.38 shape.. it's good but I just haven't really been into smaller decks at the moment). I would guess they were manufactured in the last part of 2020 or very early 2021.

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Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....
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Is anything other than the Jeron black fist on PS? I'd definitely be interested in skating a PS girl deck. The only one I have is one of the Jovantae reissue 7.5 and it's great but just too small for me to regularly skate. If they're doing 8.1 or 8.2 on that mold I'll be stoked as fuck. Hope it isn't just a one-off special edition like the Jovantae and Carroll bruised heels were.
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From that Girl wood thread from a while back, someone had quite a few in all sizes online from their shop, or the Girl website itself, but something makes me think it might have been Canada, more so than USA.

Found it, from Jan 2021 so pretty old now and the links don't work to the 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 sizes listed, but this was the post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.msg3488167;topicseen#msg3488167

Thanks. I'm looking around for those decks but all the ones I've been able to find pics of have been the usual tops, no PS stickers spotted other than the Jeron. I want to try one of these but I'd really prefer to find another graphic. I'm not sure if my hairy white ass can get away with toting a black power fist deck around at work. I guess the trucks will cover a bit of it and I could sticker it up if need be, but I'd really prefer a classic 93 til or something like that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Gino's Back 180 Nosegrind on May 28, 2021, 12:44:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM

Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
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A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GsuqavN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hGeJ2ju.jpg)

Here's a 2019 spec list I got from one of their reps. Should still be the same dimensions? I think they're only doing K and O shaped boards at the moment.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ish_wav on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM

What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on May 28, 2021, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM

What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf

Prime also has single dot/ dimple

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 28, 2021, 07:30:07 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM

What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf

Yeah the dot is fairly common across a lot of woodshops, which is the easiest way to make sure the board is the right way round (almost always at the front) but I think the best way is put it side on and check the concave against some others, because the feel of the concave is the best tell for me.

Unless you have one or more of each major woodshop, it is still fairly easy to confuse them with others, least of all being a generic unknown woodshop from somewhere like China - which doesn't mean it is a bad deck - just that the quality is unknown.

I keep thinking I should even do something to show different concaves, but unless you have a good close up of just the right angle, it is almost impossible to determine unless you can stand on it too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on May 28, 2021, 08:06:48 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 28, 2021, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
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What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf
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Prime also has single dot/ dimple

My first ccs custom was prime. It had the prime logo on engraved on top. My last 2 had no distinguishable markings on them. Expect the to notch. I know it’s not woodchuck. Ive use woodchuck for my brand and they feel different.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: backinaction on May 28, 2021, 09:26:36 PM

Quote from: Gino's Back 180 Nosegrind on May 28, 2021, 12:44:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM
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Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
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A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/GsuqavN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hGeJ2ju.jpg)

Here's a 2019 spec list I got from one of their reps. Should still be the same dimensions? I think they're only doing K and O shaped boards at the moment.

I have a current K8 8.375 that has a 14.25 wheelbase- not the 14.5 in the chart

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ish_wav on May 28, 2021, 11:57:09 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 28, 2021, 07:30:07 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
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What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf
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Yeah the dot is fairly common across a lot of woodshops, which is the easiest way to make sure the board is the right way round (almost always at the front) but I think the best way is put it side on and check the concave against some others, because the feel of the concave is the best tell for me.

Unless you have one or more of each major woodshop, it is still fairly easy to confuse them with others, least of all being a generic unknown woodshop from somewhere like China - which doesn't mean it is a bad deck - just that the quality is unknown.

I keep thinking I should even do something to show different concaves, but unless you have a good close up of just the right angle, it is almost impossible to determine unless you can stand on it too.

Woodchuck has a single shape (as far as my email inquiries have told me) and I had kept a Woodchuck 8 1/8 deck for a while to compare with but I recently got rid of it. This CCS deck has a 14 1/4 wheelbase like the woodchuck decks so that was why I thought it was that. It could definitely be prime though. I’ve never had a prime deck so I have nothing to compare to

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 29, 2021, 05:02:09 AM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 11:57:09 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 28, 2021, 07:30:07 PM
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Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
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What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf
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Yeah the dot is fairly common across a lot of woodshops, which is the easiest way to make sure the board is the right way round (almost always at the front) but I think the best way is put it side on and check the concave against some others, because the feel of the concave is the best tell for me.

Unless you have one or more of each major woodshop, it is still fairly easy to confuse them with others, least of all being a generic unknown woodshop from somewhere like China - which doesn't mean it is a bad deck - just that the quality is unknown.

I keep thinking I should even do something to show different concaves, but unless you have a good close up of just the right angle, it is almost impossible to determine unless you can stand on it too.
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Woodchuck has a single shape (as far as my email inquiries have told me) and I had kept a Woodchuck 8 1/8 deck for a while to compare with but I recently got rid of it. This CCS deck has a 14 1/4 wheelbase like the woodchuck decks so that was why I thought it was that. It could definitely be prime though. I’ve never had a prime deck so I have nothing to compare to

Looking at CCS those boards could be from any woodshop, including generic China decks, so nothing from that stands out as any one board apart from the fact that there are no identifying marks which means it is most likely not going to be BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Dwindle.

I did think generic Generator / BBS with the dot, but the concave looks like it is different from those pics anyway. Pics are not a good way to tell though.

A couple of online reviews show a plain / natural bottom ply and fairly long flat / steep kicks, which could also be different from then to now too.

https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-logo-skateboard-deck-blue

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-4_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/b/l/blueccs-6_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-5_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-3_1.1517622394.jpg

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on May 29, 2021, 05:52:20 AM

Quote from: backinaction on May 28, 2021, 09:26:36 PM

Quote from: Gino's Back 180 Nosegrind on May 28, 2021, 12:44:25 PM
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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2021, 10:52:12 PM
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Quote from: Murge on May 22, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
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Is there a clutch chart where it says the wheel bases for the size and shape? I know on their site like it has width and lengths but not the wheel bases. I saw some k shapes and was curious on what the wheel bases would be on 8.5 K and O shape
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A page back, but not sure if they updated the chart too.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3558270;topicseen#msg3558270

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz5N2PH/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/GsuqavN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hGeJ2ju.jpg)

Here's a 2019 spec list I got from one of their reps. Should still be the same dimensions? I think they're only doing K and O shaped boards at the moment.
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I have a current K8 8.375 that has a 14.25 wheelbase- not the 14.5 in the chart

Same here

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on May 29, 2021, 11:53:14 AM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 28, 2021, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
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What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf
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Prime also has single dot/ dimple

The dot is what many of the China woodshops use. It's simply meant to easily distinguish nose from tail.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 31, 2021, 02:25:39 AM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 28, 2021, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: theismaeliscool on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM
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What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf
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Prime also has single dot/ dimple

Prime often has the size and mold (usually U5) stamped between the back truck bolt holes on the top ply as well. As others have already said the divot is just an alignment mark. PGI boards have it a lot of the time and I've even seen them put one there in sharpie if it's not stamped in so they don't apply the graphic upside down.

@Mbrimson88 you might as well delete the Quincy section. They've been out of business since before the pandemic. For the companies listed under it Lurkville is clutch, space program was generator last I saw, TOPX has been exclusively generator for some time now (last 3-4 runs), and I don't even know if folklore project exists anymore. It seems like they just kind of release the reissue/tribute graphics as stereo which I believe is clutch (same distro as lurkville)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2021, 07:14:38 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 31, 2021, 02:25:39 AM

@Mbrimson88 you might as well delete the Quincy section. They've been out of business since before the pandemic. For the companies listed under it Lurkville is clutch, space program was generator last I saw, TOPX has been exclusively generator for some time now (last 3-4 runs), and I don't even know if folklore project exists anymore. It seems like they just kind of release the reissue/tribute graphics as stereo which I believe is clutch (same distro as lurkville)

Updated - Thanks again for info!

Not sure if I had posted this but from looking at some recent shops, I noticed the following, some info old, some new:

All Plan B are on extremely flat (almost weird) concaves with minimal angle to the kicks, which I had not seen before, so not sure if it is a specific concave or a standard line from a specific woodshop (no other markings on the decks).

Zero, Toy Machine and a few other team and pro latest releases here are on decks with no other identifying marks, only the "Made in China" sticker with size info, which seems different from the last lot I saw, but no idea what woodshop they are from. I also think they might be licensed out here (just like some clothing brands), so same graphics, but just where ever they want to get the wood, at least much more so than the pro wood in US or other places.

A few smaller local brands are now on what also seems like generic wood, similar shape, steeper feel of concave and minimal or no identifying marks, so again probably from China.

Some BBS / DLX boards have the I to IV stamp and some do not as well as more weird dimensions / steeper concaves from the most recent drops I saw and stood on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Youoverthere on May 31, 2021, 07:24:32 AM

Chapmen is still in business. I just ordered one

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Carter on May 31, 2021, 07:32:30 AM

I know its been mentioned pages and pages back but anyone have leads on a 8.25 shape 14 wb or less and shorter than 31.5 and a full nose? looks like weekend changed their CT shape which is a bummer I have one left and a business and company back up that I believe is 31.37 length.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on May 31, 2021, 08:28:13 AM

Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 31, 2021, 10:12:31 AM

Quote from: Carter on May 31, 2021, 07:32:30 AM

I know its been mentioned pages and pages back but anyone have leads on a 8.25 shape 14 wb or less and shorter than 31.5 and a full nose? looks like weekend changed their CT shape which is a bummer I have one left and a business and company back up that I believe is 31.37 length.

Closest I can think of are DLX 8.12. I think they’re 8.12x31.3x14wb. Crail makes 8.25 with a 14wb but they’re definitely longer than 31.5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: lazer69 on May 31, 2021, 02:16:23 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 25, 2021, 08:07:41 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 25, 2021, 01:24:41 PM
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Quote from: Murge on May 25, 2021, 06:57:57 AM
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Has people been having issues with bbs lately? Ive heard a few people at the park mention their decks was breaking fast felt soggy etc. all of which was real decks that they mentioned I had a krooked but it wasn’t that bad just chipped easily. It’s kinda putting me off of buying BBS right now. Has anyone else had this happen or heard of i or maybe this is just an isolated incident?
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I have a similar experience with my current Anti Hero. The shape is nice and all but the wood itself feels really soft (chipping easily, sharp edges cut of little pieces of wood).
Around 20 sessions in now and feels like it is on it's last end.

The Anti Hero from my homie broke after 10 sessions, but to be fair, he stomped directly in the middle at a pop shuv attempt. I think every deck will break if you land like that.
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The last BBS I bought was a real oval or one of the mason 8.28 (with the gonz art), both around the same time. Neither has felt any different to me but I haven't really skated the oval much (8.12 x 31.38 shape.. it's good but I just haven't really been into smaller decks at the moment). I would guess they were manufactured in the last part of 2020 or very early 2021.

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Girl has been doing a bit more PS......

My hot take is the China boards are better....
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Is anything other than the Jeron black fist on PS? I'd definitely be interested in skating a PS girl deck. The only one I have is one of the Jovantae reissue 7.5 and it's great but just too small for me to regularly skate. If they're doing 8.1 or 8.2 on that mold I'll be stoked as fuck. Hope it isn't just a one-off special edition like the Jovantae and Carroll bruised heels were.
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From that Girl wood thread from a while back, someone had quite a few in all sizes online from their shop, or the Girl website itself, but something makes me think it might have been Canada, more so than USA.

Found it, from Jan 2021 so pretty old now and the links don't work to the 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 sizes listed, but this was the post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.msg3488167;topicseen#msg3488167
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Thanks. I'm looking around for those decks but all the ones I've been able to find pics of have been the usual tops, no PS stickers spotted other than the Jeron. I want to try one of these but I'd really prefer to find another graphic. I'm not sure if my hairy white ass can get away with toting a black power fist deck around at work. I guess the trucks will cover a bit of it and I could sticker it up if need be, but I'd really prefer a classic 93 til or something like that.

Don't worry, it was the red fist before blm adopted it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 31, 2021, 04:31:37 PM

Quote from: Carter on May 31, 2021, 07:32:30 AM

I know its been mentioned pages and pages back but anyone have leads on a 8.25 shape 14 wb or less and shorter than 31.5 and a full nose? looks like weekend changed their CT shape which is a bummer I have one left and a business and company back up that I believe is 31.37 length.

I don't know if they actually changed the CT shape, the nose/tail lengths and wheelbase listed are all the same. I think they might have either copied it over from the 8.125 and forgot to change the length or they may have just measured it with the concave for some reason (31.63 with concave would work out to around 31.25 tip to tip).

That being said,

Blood wizard 8.25 is 31.6 14wb. Full nose but flat and mellow concave so if you're a steep deck kinda guy you might not like it.

Girl/Chocolate G018 (yonnie shape) is 8.18 x 31.5 14wb. Some places list it as 8.12 x 31.3 for some reason, but its 8.18 x 31.5 and honestly feels like its about the same size as the WKND ct. There's also some other 14wb 8.25 but they're a bit longer.

Orchard Shop decks/Project Asteroid (Robbie Gangemi presses them) 8.25 M1 are 31.5 and 14wb. Not really a full nose though, more of a classic popsicle shape.

I'm missing a bunch, but those are the ones that came to mind right this second.

edit: @Carter I thought of another one.... the new Evisen decks are short and 14"wb... they do 2 concaves (deep and mellow) so you may want to check their catalog to see which graphic is on what. I've seen them listed as anywhere from 31.1-31.4 length, so probably 31.25 is what they're supposed to be. Again these are more of a classic tapered popsicle shape, so not necessarily "full nose" but everything else fits. DSM wood so epoxy glue meaning stiff and a little heavy at first, also the mellow ones are flat but the kicks are maybe slightly more on the medium side of mellow.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 31, 2021, 04:38:05 PM

Quote from: BugleBites on May 31, 2021, 08:28:13 AM

Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.

I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want. Unfortunately for the rest of us they move an absolute shit ton of boards so they have to just get them wherever they can and in the pandemic world that means multiple places. They do seem to be getting more PS wood in the rotation now as production starts to ramp up down there again, but they (and everyone else) have a huge backlog of orders so this is the way it has to be right now. The china decks I think are either DSM or PGI/Girl wood. Haven't actually had my hands on one to get nerdy on and see if I can mold match it, but the big china shops have pretty much caught up to (and in some ways surpassed) NA wood so the boards are probably pretty solid.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on May 31, 2021, 05:58:59 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on May 31, 2021, 04:38:05 PM

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Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.
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I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want.

I doubt it, honestly. I’ve been to Tum Yeto when riders were there grabbing boards from the same stacks as retail gets. There have been riders for certain brands in the past that got the same graphics on custom wood for themselves, but it was rare and the current situation with wood shops makes that much less likely. I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to think pros use different gear than the normal stuff we all buy, but for the most part they just walk in the warehouse and grab decks or their TM grabs them decks from the regular stock. I’ve personally sent out countless promo packages that confirm this.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2021, 07:30:37 PM

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Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.
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I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want.
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I doubt it, honestly. I’ve been to Tum Yeto when riders were there grabbing boards from the same stacks as retail gets. There have been riders for certain brands in the past that got the same graphics on custom wood for themselves, but it was rare and the current situation with wood shops makes that much less likely. I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to think pros use different gear than the normal stuff we all buy, but for the most part they just walk in the warehouse and grab decks or their TM grabs them decks from the regular stock. I’ve personally sent out countless promo packages that confirm this.

It is a funny one, where some brands are really proud of saying "Our pro team ride the same wood that we sell" like DLX for starters, but I definitely know other brands have had whatever for customers and specials for the team guys over the years, be it from top level brands or from whoever. I recall seeing that Element spreadsheet where team riders were on specific wood shapes and sizes from half a dozen different woodshops according to their tastes, or the time I saw (and bought) a few decks from another touring pro when in Australia and the boards were absolutely nothing like what they sold in the shop, all pre gripped and shrink wrapped ready for him to ride, but he needed weed / beer money and being the shop guy I was happy to help.

I don't doubt there have been some funny things going on over the years, but right now it seems there are more issues than not, as mentioned with shortages and everything else going on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2021, 07:32:09 PM

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Chapmen is still in business. I just ordered one

Yes that is why I had changed to this line, being a woodshop and selling someone else's decks are two different things.

Chapman (not currently manufacturing decks, but said to be using Clutch wood)

I would be interested to know if the deck had the number and letter stamps in the top, or if it felt different / the same as other boards from Clutch.

Being in AU I often just take people's word for things when compiling the list, but am happy to change or fix anything if it is shown to be incorrect.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on May 31, 2021, 08:13:21 PM

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Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.
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I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want.
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I doubt it, honestly. I’ve been to Tum Yeto when riders were there grabbing boards from the same stacks as retail gets. There have been riders for certain brands in the past that got the same graphics on custom wood for themselves, but it was rare and the current situation with wood shops makes that much less likely. I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to think pros use different gear than the normal stuff we all buy, but for the most part they just walk in the warehouse and grab decks or their TM grabs them decks from the regular stock. I’ve personally sent out countless promo packages that confirm this.
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It is a funny one, where some brands are really proud of saying "Our pro team ride the same wood that we sell" like DLX for starters, but I definitely know other brands have had whatever for customers and specials for the team guys over the years, be it from top level brands or from whoever. I recall seeing that Element spreadsheet where team riders were on specific wood shapes and sizes from half a dozen different woodshops according to their tastes, or the time I saw (and bought) a few decks from another touring pro when in Australia and the boards were absolutely nothing like what they sold in the shop, all pre gripped and shrink wrapped ready for him to ride, but he needed weed / beer money and being the shop guy I was happy to help.

I don't doubt there have been some funny things going on over the years, but right now it seems there are more issues than not, as mentioned with shortages and everything else going on.

That's interesting to hear. The pre-gipped and shrink wrapped boards is hilarious - that's some spoiled princess treatment. Haha. I have heard of a few bigger pros who had that done for them though. I wonder if being in Australia has anything to do with the differences you're noticing? I could definitely see Element doing multiple woodshops for riders since they're a bigger operation. How on earth did you see that spreadsheet? Friend of the TM/brand manager?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2021, 10:39:04 PM

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Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.
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I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want.
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I doubt it, honestly. I’ve been to Tum Yeto when riders were there grabbing boards from the same stacks as retail gets. There have been riders for certain brands in the past that got the same graphics on custom wood for themselves, but it was rare and the current situation with wood shops makes that much less likely. I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to think pros use different gear than the normal stuff we all buy, but for the most part they just walk in the warehouse and grab decks or their TM grabs them decks from the regular stock. I’ve personally sent out countless promo packages that confirm this.
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It is a funny one, where some brands are really proud of saying "Our pro team ride the same wood that we sell" like DLX for starters, but I definitely know other brands have had whatever for customers and specials for the team guys over the years, be it from top level brands or from whoever. I recall seeing that Element spreadsheet where team riders were on specific wood shapes and sizes from half a dozen different woodshops according to their tastes, or the time I saw (and bought) a few decks from another touring pro when in Australia and the boards were absolutely nothing like what they sold in the shop, all pre gripped and shrink wrapped ready for him to ride, but he needed weed / beer money and being the shop guy I was happy to help.

I don't doubt there have been some funny things going on over the years, but right now it seems there are more issues than not, as mentioned with shortages and everything else going on.
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That's interesting to hear. The pre-gipped and shrink wrapped boards is hilarious - that's some spoiled princess treatment. Haha. I have heard of a few bigger pros who had that done for them though. I wonder if being in Australia has anything to do with the differences you're noticing? I could definitely see Element doing multiple woodshops for riders since they're a bigger operation. How on earth did you see that spreadsheet? Friend of the TM/brand manager?

It was in a woodshop thread, I am pretty sure, posted last year or so if I recall correctly.

Found it, three different woodshops BBS, PS Stix and one on Dwindle (why Ray, why?) but I know there were other dudes riding wood from different woodshops to what their brand gets too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103985

Also being back when they had a full US pro team with well established pro riders was probably different to how it is now too.

There might have been info in another thread about different pro guys with specific board preferences somewhere too, but it was just passing info and not a thread dedicated to that topic, so probably even harder to find.

I went digging deep while in covid lockdown and found so much useless but priceless info...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on June 01, 2021, 12:59:06 AM

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Man, it must suck to ride for Toy/Foundation when it comes to the boards - they change every time they get a batch made. No consistency. I don't think I've ever seen a brand switch wood so much. We just got a massive amount of Tum Yeto decks and they're all pressed at some new China place. Funny thing is they seem nicer than most of the other places they got their decks made, and now the price point decks seem a lot nicer because they're made there too. The price points feel just like the pro decks. The shapes aren't great but also not horrible. Seems like the same shape for every deck in every size. Laser engraved logo and width on top.
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I'm sure the riders get whatever wood and shape they want.
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I doubt it, honestly. I’ve been to Tum Yeto when riders were there grabbing boards from the same stacks as retail gets. There have been riders for certain brands in the past that got the same graphics on custom wood for themselves, but it was rare and the current situation with wood shops makes that much less likely. I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to think pros use different gear than the normal stuff we all buy, but for the most part they just walk in the warehouse and grab decks or their TM grabs them decks from the regular stock. I’ve personally sent out countless promo packages that confirm this.
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It is a funny one, where some brands are really proud of saying "Our pro team ride the same wood that we sell" like DLX for starters, but I definitely know other brands have had whatever for customers and specials for the team guys over the years, be it from top level brands or from whoever. I recall seeing that Element spreadsheet where team riders were on specific wood shapes and sizes from half a dozen different woodshops according to their tastes, or the time I saw (and bought) a few decks from another touring pro when in Australia and the boards were absolutely nothing like what they sold in the shop, all pre gripped and shrink wrapped ready for him to ride, but he needed weed / beer money and being the shop guy I was happy to help.

I don't doubt there have been some funny things going on over the years, but right now it seems there are more issues than not, as mentioned with shortages and everything else going on.
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That's interesting to hear. The pre-gipped and shrink wrapped boards is hilarious - that's some spoiled princess treatment. Haha. I have heard of a few bigger pros who had that done for them though. I wonder if being in Australia has anything to do with the differences you're noticing? I could definitely see Element doing multiple woodshops for riders since they're a bigger operation. How on earth did you see that spreadsheet? Friend of the TM/brand manager?
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It was in a woodshop thread, I am pretty sure, posted last year or so if I recall correctly.

Found it, three different woodshops BBS, PS Stix and one on Dwindle (why Ray, why?) but I know there were other dudes riding wood from different woodshops to what their brand gets too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103985

Also being back when they had a full US pro team with well established pro riders was probably different to how it is now too.

There might have been info in another thread about different pro guys with specific board preferences somewhere too, but it was just passing info and not a thread dedicated to that topic, so probably even harder to find.

I went digging deep while in covid lockdown and found so much useless but priceless info...

A recent one that comes to mind is PJ with the Control boards. I've known a couple pros who used different wood too. I almost feel like it was more of a thing before BBS became such of a gold standard, and now everyone is just stoked to skate DLX and Polar shapes. Instead of dudes getting graphics on different wood, they just straight up ride an Anti Hero eagle and sticker it up a bit. ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 01, 2021, 04:28:40 AM

Quote from: BugleBites on June 01, 2021, 12:59:06 AM

A recent one that comes to mind is PJ with the Control boards. I've known a couple pros who used different wood too. I almost feel like it was more of a thing before BBS became such of a gold standard, and now everyone is just stoked to skate DLX and Polar shapes. Instead of dudes getting graphics on different wood, they just straight up ride an Anti Hero eagle and sticker it up a bit. ;D

That list would be rather long, just off the top of my head I recall pictures of Eric Koston and Cory Kennedy while on Girl, Elijah Berle while on Chocolate, but others like that video of Alex Olson doesn't really count, and BA or Grant Taylor ended up on AH anyway, so that is no biggie either. All of those guys had very clear pics of Antihero wood though.

I am sure there are others too, but right this minute I cannot recall any other pics.

Testament to the good wood, when others don't like their packages and swap boards, or sell their package and get what they want to ride from the local shop, which used to happen all the time round where I was between 2005 to 2010.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: sk8_cat on June 01, 2021, 05:00:48 AM

Does anyone know if Zero changed woodshop from DSM to something else Chinese for Europe? I just got a couple of decks with a made in China sticker of the foil and none of the usual etched markings from DSM on the top, and boy does that wood suck.. also the shape is different between the 2 decks...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 01, 2021, 05:37:43 AM

Quote from: sk8_cat on June 01, 2021, 05:00:48 AM

Does anyone know if Zero changed woodshop from DSM to something else Chinese for Europe? I just got a couple of decks with a made in China sticker of the foil and none of the usual etched markings from DSM on the top, and boy does that wood suck.. also the shape is different between the 2 decks...

Yes I saw them last week here in Australia - looked pretty average, as per comment from last page, but some other guys I know say their Zero boards are still Dwindle in the last drop they had, so who knows anymore...

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2021, 07:14:38 AM

Zero, Toy Machine and a few other team and pro latest releases here are on decks with no other identifying marks, only the "Made in China" sticker with size info, which seems different from the last lot I saw, but no idea what woodshop they are from. I also think they might be licensed out here (just like some clothing brands), so same graphics, but just where ever they want to get the wood, at least much more so than the pro wood in US or other places.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Carter on June 01, 2021, 01:39:57 PM

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I know its been mentioned pages and pages back but anyone have leads on a 8.25 shape 14 wb or less and shorter than 31.5 and a full nose? looks like weekend changed their CT shape which is a bummer I have one left and a business and company back up that I believe is 31.37 length.
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I don't know if they actually changed the CT shape, the nose/tail lengths and wheelbase listed are all the same. I think they might have either copied it over from the 8.125 and forgot to change the length or they may have just measured it with the concave for some reason (31.63 with concave would work out to around 31.25 tip to tip).

That being said,

Blood wizard 8.25 is 31.6 14wb. Full nose but flat and mellow concave so if you're a steep deck kinda guy you might not like it.

Girl/Chocolate G018 (yonnie shape) is 8.18 x 31.5 14wb. Some places list it as 8.12 x 31.3 for some reason, but its 8.18 x 31.5 and honestly feels like its about the same size as the WKND ct. There's also some other 14wb 8.25 but they're a bit longer.

Orchard Shop decks/Project Asteroid (Robbie Gangemi presses them) 8.25 M1 are 31.5 and 14wb. Not really a full nose though, more of a classic popsicle shape.

I'm missing a bunch, but those are the ones that came to mind right this second.

thanks man appreciate it!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on June 01, 2021, 07:19:58 PM

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Does anyone know if Zero changed woodshop from DSM to something else Chinese for Europe? I just got a couple of decks with a made in China sticker of the foil and none of the usual etched markings from DSM on the top, and boy does that wood suck.. also the shape is different between the 2 decks...
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Yes I saw them last week here in Australia - looked pretty average, as per comment from last page, but some other guys I know say their Zero boards are still Dwindle in the last drop they had, so who knows anymore...

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Zero, Toy Machine and a few other team and pro latest releases here are on decks with no other identifying marks, only the "Made in China" sticker with size info, which seems different from the last lot I saw, but no idea what woodshop they are from. I also think they might be licensed out here (just like some clothing brands), so same graphics, but just where ever they want to get the wood, at least much more so than the pro wood in US or other places.

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Early to Mid 2020 Zero boards were out of DSM, QC wasn't great and had a friend snap his in 2 week on a flat ground impossible. Late 2020 till present seems like a mixed bag, I've seen those with the made in China sticker on the Jon Allie re-release.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Plug on June 02, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

You can had Nomad Skateboards to DSM ☺️

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 01:05:46 PM

Anybody know who Thumbs NYC uses?

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Post by: Sativa Lung on June 02, 2021, 01:18:06 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 01:05:46 PM

Anybody know who Thumbs NYC uses?

I want to say Drifter but I might be mixing them up with a different company.

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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 04:32:07 PM

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Anybody know who Thumbs NYC uses?
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I want to say Drifter but I might be mixing them up with a different company.

Checked drifters Instagram and their chart of board dimensions does match up with what thumbs offers. May have a winner.

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Post by: rocklobster on June 02, 2021, 11:24:07 PM

Quote from: Plug on June 02, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

You can had Nomad Skateboards to DSM ☺️

You mean this one? https://nomadskateboards.com/gb/

Don't think they are, no DSM stickers or cardboard inserts. They are from a Chinese factory, same as Droshky and BDskateco.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2021, 02:59:37 AM

Just adding info to the woodshop thread about Scram:

Quote from: Plan9Customs on June 01, 2021, 08:18:33 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/dtm0sZ37/IMG-8325.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crCWTHQZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JzrzG7Hp/IMG-8326.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJPNPNKd)
Also a blank a friend is pressing as a 6 ply for a polarizer and some mini hot juice wheels for it.

Really curious to know if you have any idea where the board was made, which woodshop as it is a bit of a mystery and although I haven't seen any with my own eyes, I have it listed as BBS up to 2019 and Watson woodshop since then.

Not seeing anything from the pics at all to identify it, did it have a "W" with American flag or Made in USA sticker or anything?

Not a worry if it is a dead end, or you don't know - they are usually fun big boards to ride though!

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on June 02, 2021, 01:26:13 PM

If you're referring to the scram deck I'm pretty sure they're prime wood. Or at least that's what the popsicles were last time I looked at one which was a few months back.

I remember someone saying they were bbs at one point in the past but I don't recall anything about Watson unless they did like a small run of some one - off crazy old school shape, which is something Watson somewhat specializes in (they make some of the Sam Hitz limited editions, some of the special Toy machine decks like the Halloween boards, and I think burger uses them for their old school shape)

Quote from: Plan9Customs on June 02, 2021, 05:24:29 PM

The Scram? I’m 90+% sure it’s BBS. Same wood that they’ve had since Nolan started selling out of shops. There were 2 exceptions though, the first and second Assault X Scram decks were Watson made.
I hoarded a bunch of the 9” shovels after Scram stopped making them. Then I found out that 35th Ave had the same deck as a shop board and I know 100% those are BBS made. Same wood, same stain quality, same clear. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
If it was about the polarizer, I have no idea where Neil has those done.

Yes sorry should have been clearer, but the Scram board.

Thanks for both replies.

It is a funny one as I had seen two Scram boards that people ordered from US shops, both different but both not BBS in feel, concave, etc so I was interested to know as a local AU distributor just brought some in so I was very curious, as they have 9 and 9.75 boards in their current stock - mainly for others I know who are after boards of those dimensions.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lloyd Braun on June 03, 2021, 09:26:42 AM

Anyone know anything about point distribution? Friend of mine just ordered boards from there. I’ve never heard of them, their site looks kinda sus, anyone ever ridden their boards?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: z_tx on June 03, 2021, 08:53:09 PM

the latest Scum Co boards are from pennswood

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Post by: munchbox on June 03, 2021, 09:23:51 PM

Quote from: z_tx on June 03, 2021, 08:53:09 PM

the latest Scum Co boards are from pennswood

any links to the new drop? all im seeing is the ps run

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on June 03, 2021, 09:49:51 PM

Quote from: Lloyd Braun on June 03, 2021, 09:26:42 AM

Anyone know anything about point distribution? Friend of mine just ordered boards from there. I’ve never heard of them, their site looks kinda sus, anyone ever ridden their boards?

I got some boards from Point. Their mellow boards are fucking flat. as their wood goes. It’s alright I guess. Since I hated the concave, I did give the wood a fair shake. I’m pretty sure the order product from China and print in the US

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Post by: OldCandy on June 03, 2021, 10:03:14 PM

i bought a danson board from a garage sale any idea what woodshop it is? came gripped

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2021, 11:04:34 PM

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Anyone know anything about point distribution? Friend of mine just ordered boards from there. I’ve never heard of them, their site looks kinda sus, anyone ever ridden their boards?
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I got some boards from Point. Their mellow boards are fucking flat. as their wood goes. It’s alright I guess. Since I hated the concave, I did give the wood a fair shake. I’m pretty sure the order product from China and print in the US

I had a look at their stuff a while back too, but as you said, it seems more like a "reseller" of product, not an actual "manufacturer" as in they don't make the products there, then just buying in the blank product and putting heat transfers on decks, graphics on wheels, etc so I had not added it to the list of woodshops on the first page.

Nothing wrong with that, but some other places who do similar things are not very clear about where their product comes from and how they do business, with some even having "Made in USA" when all they do is put the heat transfer on in the USA and get boards from China.

Of course I am a long way away and don't know anything about local production in the USA so if someone else has facts and is willing to share, otherwise who knows what is going on.

https://pointdistribution.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BB_EgqhP7f5/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on June 04, 2021, 06:14:37 AM

Who's going to man up and ask them via DM like an alpha male?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 07:56:44 AM

Does anyone know where Skate Warehouse gets their blanks? I have an 8.25 that I love and want to figure out who’s making them so I can get more from that shop. I’m reaching out to them but I doubt they’ll have an answer. I got the board gripped and don’t want to pry that shit off.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on June 04, 2021, 08:19:43 AM

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Does anyone know where Skate Warehouse gets their blanks? I have an 8.25 that I love and want to figure out who’s making them so I can get more from that shop. I’m reaching out to them but I doubt they’ll have an answer. I got the board gripped and don’t want to pry that shit off.

I have heard they are clutch but that could have changed. I really like their blanks too. Great solid boards with a good shape.

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Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 09:11:18 AM

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Does anyone know where Skate Warehouse gets their blanks? I have an 8.25 that I love and want to figure out who’s making them so I can get more from that shop. I’m reaching out to them but I doubt they’ll have an answer. I got the board gripped and don’t want to pry that shit off.
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I have heard they are clutch but that could have changed. I really like their blanks too. Great solid boards with a good shape.

If I’m not mistaken, Clutch stamps the stack number on their decks. So I’d have to identify the shape by dims and then get a peek at that number if I wanted to be a real specific pita. Which, of course I do.

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Post by: backinaction on June 04, 2021, 10:23:06 AM

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Does anyone know where Skate Warehouse gets their blanks? I have an 8.25 that I love and want to figure out who’s making them so I can get more from that shop. I’m reaching out to them but I doubt they’ll have an answer. I got the board gripped and don’t want to pry that shit off.
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I have heard they are clutch but that could have changed. I really like their blanks too. Great solid boards with a good shape.
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If I’m not mistaken, Clutch stamps the stack number on their decks. So I’d have to identify the shape by dims and then get a peek at that number if I wanted to be a real specific pita. Which, of course I do.

Clutch stamps the shape letter, and the number that indicates width - so all K shaped decks that are 8.38 have a K8 stamp on them. Chart is above.

SkateWarehouse images show no stamp - but they could be not stamping them for SW. Or they aren't clutch anymore.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 12:56:10 PM

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Does anyone know where Skate Warehouse gets their blanks? I have an 8.25 that I love and want to figure out who’s making them so I can get more from that shop. I’m reaching out to them but I doubt they’ll have an answer. I got the board gripped and don’t want to pry that shit off.
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I have heard they are clutch but that could have changed. I really like their blanks too. Great solid boards with a good shape.
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If I’m not mistaken, Clutch stamps the stack number on their decks. So I’d have to identify the shape by dims and then get a peek at that number if I wanted to be a real specific pita. Which, of course I do.
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Clutch stamps the shape letter, and the number that indicates width - so all K shaped decks that are 8.38 have a K8 stamp on them. Chart is above.

SkateWarehouse images show no stamp - but they could be not stamping them for SW. Or they aren't clutch anymore.

To add a ripple, I got mine on clearance and the page is gone. If it were a Clutch it would likely be an S6, though they apparently didn’t press that shape in 2020. So who knows, really? I appreciate all the input on here though and I’ll post again if I ever hear back from them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 02:43:52 PM

Hate to double post, but SWH got back to me. They get all their blanks from Clutch still. He even linked me their ‘most up to date’ shape guide. Apparently I’m riding the S6, as expected.

*Edited to remove redundant pic*

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on June 04, 2021, 03:23:04 PM

Quote from: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 02:43:52 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/KqxQhVt/539-C57-FC-249-B-4-D3-E-997-D-DC76-F69-A0-B4-E.png) (https://ibb.co/C7KX8Vj)

Hate to double post, but SWH got back to me. They get all their blanks from Clutch still. He even linked me their ‘most up to date’ shape guide. Apparently I’m riding the S6, as expected.

I had a feeling it was still clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lloyd Braun on June 04, 2021, 08:13:03 PM

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Anyone know anything about point distribution? Friend of mine just ordered boards from there. I’ve never heard of them, their site looks kinda sus, anyone ever ridden their boards?
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I got some boards from Point. Their mellow boards are fucking flat. as their wood goes. It’s alright I guess. Since I hated the concave, I did give the wood a fair shake. I’m pretty sure the order product from China and print in the US
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I had a look at their stuff a while back too, but as you said, it seems more like a "reseller" of product, not an actual "manufacturer" as in they don't make the products there, then just buying in the blank product and putting heat transfers on decks, graphics on wheels, etc so I had not added it to the list of woodshops on the first page.

Nothing wrong with that, but some other places who do similar things are not very clear about where their product comes from and how they do business, with some even having "Made in USA" when all they do is put the heat transfer on in the USA and get boards from China.

Of course I am a long way away and don't know anything about local production in the USA so if someone else has facts and is willing to share, otherwise who knows what is going on.

https://pointdistribution.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BB_EgqhP7f5/

Yeah definitely seems that they are just buying blank decks and reselling them with graphics. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the decks are good, but I have my doubts. I’ll probably steer clear, they only have 2 shapes and they don’t really appeal to me. I also don’t need more decks haha

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2021, 08:19:26 PM

Woodshop list updated

Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!

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Post by: Lou Strux on June 05, 2021, 01:09:50 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2021, 08:19:26 PM

Woodshop list updated

Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!

Brimmo, you’re a real gem.
‘Preciate chu.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on June 06, 2021, 09:05:13 AM

Aye...
I pulled a Scram out of my “icebox” to check for tell-tale wood shop markings & all mine had was a single dimple between the rear truck holes, on the top ply.
Make of that info what you will, if you can make anything of it at all.
(https://i.ibb.co/NT2qPBt/Scrammer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPKyZGm)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: alraunen on June 06, 2021, 10:06:27 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2021, 08:19:26 PM

Woodshop list updated

Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!

Would be awesome to add a description or a picture of the top ply to identify board manufacturers.

Other than that the list is perfect, thanks for keep it updated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 06, 2021, 12:36:26 PM

Quote from: Lou Strux on June 06, 2021, 09:05:13 AM

Aye...
I pulled a Scram out of my “icebox” to check for tell-tale wood shop markings & all mine had was a single dimple between the rear truck holes, on the top ply.
Make of that info what you will, if you can make anything of it at all.
(https://i.ibb.co/NT2qPBt/Scrammer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPKyZGm)

Which deck is that one? I’d love to see a pic.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on June 06, 2021, 04:19:06 PM

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Aye...
I pulled a Scram out of my “icebox” to check for tell-tale wood shop markings & all mine had was a single dimple between the rear truck holes, on the top ply.
Make of that info what you will, if you can make anything of it at all.
(https://i.ibb.co/NT2qPBt/Scrammer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPKyZGm)
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Which deck is that one? I’d love to see a pic.

@Plan9Customs, it is this one. I think it’s the first of the Brandon Perelson(sp?) models: 8.75” w/ a 14.5” WB, dipped white.
One of the few Scram graphics that doesn’t scream “garage brand” to me.
Not that I mind that aesthetic, I’ve got a Scram w/ awful graphics gripped & on deck right now. I can’t see the bottom when I’m riding anyways, save for when I’m doing flip tricks, which is almost never, so...
Anyway, here’s a pic I pulled off of the web since I’m not at home presently.
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Scram-Skateboards-Brandon-Perelson-BTP-Deck.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 06, 2021, 04:36:12 PM

Like I said, I remember hearing they were BBS but when I looked into getting one of the scram-hain popsicles a while back those were definitely prime. In the image below you'll see the U5 mold and size between the rear truck holes on the top. That may have been a pandemic thing, or they may use someone else for the shaped boards and then run the popsicles at prime. That's really all the intel I have about them though, I had no desire to really investigate further as I wasn't a fan of the only prime deck I've tried.

(https://base-ec2.akamaized.net/images/item/origin/ae2b8a765cb5ed1bafaf59752eb3a8b6.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on June 06, 2021, 04:54:47 PM

A gracious thank you, BFRD, for the further intel.
I won’t care until there’s grip on top & trucks/wheels beneath. Wood shop notwithstanding, I’ll make my decide on whether it’s right for me at THAT time.
Shared for the sake of our collective knowledge database, but even within manus, there’s often so much variance that I never know if it’s a good fit for me personally until I’m standing on top of it, mid trick.
Props/blessings unto you, as well as Brimmo & Xen for being the knowledge keepers of our micro society.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 06, 2021, 09:42:48 PM

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Aye...
I pulled a Scram out of my “icebox” to check for tell-tale wood shop markings & all mine had was a single dimple between the rear truck holes, on the top ply.
Make of that info what you will, if you can make anything of it at all.
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Which deck is that one? I’d love to see a pic.
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@Plan9Customs, it is this one. I think it’s the first of the Brandon Perelson(sp?) models: 8.75” w/ a 14.5” WB, dipped white.
One of the few Scram graphics that doesn’t scream “garage brand” to me.
Not that I mind that aesthetic, I’ve got a Scram w/ awful graphics gripped & on deck right now. I can’t see the bottom when I’m riding anyways, save for when I’m doing flip tricks, which is almost never, so...
Anyway, here’s a pic I pulled off of the web since I’m not at home presently.

Thanks for the check up guys!

Not sure if it is just me but that doesn't come up, but from a google search it does look like a nice shape - good squared off tail, not too sharp but not too fat and blunt either, if that is the same one?

This listing shows lots of close ups, top, etc.

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/shopping/oddball-skate-snow_03443?lang=en

Another good pic of a Scram deck from the same search is from 35th Ave shop from maybe 2019 / 2020, link below:

http://www.35thave.com/shop/c/p/Scram-Earthskii-Whale-Two-natural-Lukas-Miller-10-x-31875-x38510857.htm

Then there are all these if you really want to see more:

https://oddball-skate-snow.blogspot.com/2019/02/scram-new-deck.html

I guess though the question is where are they getting the most recent boards done now?

There have been some BBS, a couple of other plain / natural wood with thicker ply layers (Watson maybe) and quite a few single colour top and rest natural ply layers (Prime maybe) that I have seen - people skating them so no top shot or whatever but felt different to BBS and some new ones just arrived here but I am yet to see or stand on any.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: RichardBarkley on June 07, 2021, 02:09:47 AM

Long shot but anybody know who made the old Orchard decks?

Got given this off someone. Gonna set it up soon.

(https://i.ibb.co/yPwcMKK/IMG-20210607-100703.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yPwcMKK)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 07, 2021, 05:10:02 PM

Okay we can put the Scram debates behind and edit it correctly now:
(https://i.postimg.cc/KcpGWMX6/9-F5-F48-C0-A405-4-F23-9945-54881449489-B.png) (https://postimg.cc/rzW20zwj)
Assault x Scram = Watson laminates

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 07, 2021, 05:12:36 PM

Quote from: Lou Strux on June 06, 2021, 04:19:06 PM

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Aye...
I pulled a Scram out of my “icebox” to check for tell-tale wood shop markings & all mine had was a single dimple between the rear truck holes, on the top ply.
Make of that info what you will, if you can make anything of it at all.
(https://i.ibb.co/NT2qPBt/Scrammer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPKyZGm)
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Which deck is that one? I’d love to see a pic.
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@Plan9Customs, it is this one. I think it’s the first of the Brandon Perelson(sp?) models: 8.75” w/ a 14.5” WB, dipped white.
One of the few Scram graphics that doesn’t scream “garage brand” to me.
Not that I mind that aesthetic, I’ve got a Scram w/ awful graphics gripped & on deck right now. I can’t see the bottom when I’m riding anyways, save for when I’m doing flip tricks, which is almost never, so...
Anyway, here’s a pic I pulled off of the web since I’m not at home presently.
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Scram-Skateboards-Brandon-Perelson-BTP-Deck.png)

Thanks. Rad deck and yeah BTP’s art is as well.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 07, 2021, 05:49:16 PM

Anyone heard of or seen this woodshop?

Project Skateboards out of South Africa.

Definitely a woodshop, not a reseller.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CISqBXrnvKe/

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Post by: Kevve on June 08, 2021, 07:36:04 PM

I've been looking for a new deck and found two boards with similar Specs that im intrested in, a gx1000 & a quasi. 8.625 X 32.5 with a big wheelbase at 14.75.

Riding a 9 with 14.5wb now but wanna go down in width for easier flips, thinking a lil extra wb helps it not feeling small.

How is a 14.75 Long WB for flips & general riding?

And how are the shapes of the boards?

I preffer medium concaves, big/full noses.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Skatebeard on June 09, 2021, 01:36:19 AM

What are clutch boards like?

I'm a huge Magenta fan and have loved all my boards from them, bit disappointed to see them moving away from BBS tbh.

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Post by: Boog on June 09, 2021, 09:10:40 AM

Quote from: Skatebeard on June 09, 2021, 01:36:19 AM

What are clutch boards like?

I'm a huge Magenta fan and have loved all my boards from them, bit disappointed to see them moving away from BBS tbh.

Clutch boards are really good. I like them better than PS Stixs. They're almost as good as BBS tbh.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: pray4mebyname on June 09, 2021, 09:16:27 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2021, 08:19:26 PM

Woodshop list updated

Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!

ATM/Permanent Vacation are BBS not Clutch

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Post by: moonordie on June 09, 2021, 04:20:06 PM

Quote from: Skatebeard on June 09, 2021, 01:36:19 AM

What are clutch boards like?

I'm a huge Magenta fan and have loved all my boards from them, bit disappointed to see them moving away from BBS tbh.

Really good, not BBS good but pretty close

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 09, 2021, 07:11:29 PM

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Woodshop list updated

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Thanks!
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ATM/Permanent Vacation are BBS not Clutch

Thank you - changed the listings for those two.

An older ATM board I had was PGI here in AU, but that was from I don't know how many years ago as it was new old stock from someone else.

I think I had been informed a lot of other wood (mostly BBS brands) had moved over to Clutch, but I am starting to see people post that those brands are mostly still on BBS, so hopefully with more information I can keep the woodshop listings as up to date as possible.

Quote from: Skatebeard on June 09, 2021, 01:36:19 AM

What are clutch boards like?

I'm a huge Magenta fan and have loved all my boards from them, bit disappointed to see them moving away from BBS tbh.

The latest drop here in AU is still BBS / Generator so I am not sure if it has just taken a while for the shipment to get here, or they have not actually changed from BBS.

Anyone able to check their local or find out more info, please let me know.

Other brands that used Generator were also said to be changing to Clutch, but again I am not so sure - thinking it was Isle, Magenta and a couple of others out of a US distro that just put the transfers on Generator blanks.

Magenta always had the same wood as Passport, dark brown stain and a bit more mellow than most BBS / Generator boards I had too.

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Just picked up a few Worble boards, threw out the shrink wrap but it had a warning sticker and is made in Mexico. I’m no expert identifying boards but I guess it is BBS? It had a 7k stamp between the front bolts. Also I really can’t manage to post a photo.
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7K + Mexico = Clutch

Added to the main woodshop thread - thank you!!!

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Post by: Lloyd Braun on June 09, 2021, 07:19:03 PM

Quote from: Skatebeard on June 09, 2021, 01:36:19 AM

What are clutch boards like?

I'm a huge Magenta fan and have loved all my boards from them, bit disappointed to see them moving away from BBS tbh.

I’ve skated a ton of clutch boards. They are good, though they tend to sog out quicker than BBS IMO

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 09, 2021, 07:36:37 PM

Quote from: YutoBufoni on June 09, 2021, 11:19:17 AM

Keep hearing good things about this new wood in Colorado. Anno Domini i believe is the manufactures name? Looks like they got a decent amount of brands. Anyone else heard / have more info?

Thanks for the info.

I have added it to the CURRENT WOODSHOP THREAD main page listings.

https://www.adskateboards.com/

Anno Domini Skateboards
Skate Shop
Board Company
Manufacturer
Producing high quality skateboards since 2020 A.D.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CO3gBMBFp-B/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNBERQllRjD/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE9mIOsli1_/

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Post by: El Chupacabra on June 09, 2021, 10:12:01 PM

I have several AD samples landing on Saturday. Will report in. Nice guys.

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Post by: BALARGUE on June 10, 2021, 02:52:40 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2021, 08:19:26 PM

Woodshop list updated

Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!

thanks to you !!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: YutoBufoni on June 10, 2021, 09:28:04 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on June 10, 2021, 02:52:40 AM

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Anything else anyone thinks is needed to change, add, remove, etc???

Thanks!
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thanks to you !!

Looks like this might be the list for AD Manufacturing:
AD Skateboards
GBAx Skateboards
Hux Skateboards
Wienerdog Skateboards
Overland Skateboards
Whisper Skateboards
Wool Skateboards

Look like rad brands.

That’s all the main brands I could find.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 11, 2021, 04:12:30 AM

Quote from: YutoBufoni on June 10, 2021, 09:28:04 AM

Looks like this might be the list for AD Manufacturing:
AD Skateboards
GBAx Skateboards
Hux Skateboards
Wienerdog Skateboards
Overland Skateboards
Whisper Skateboards
Wool Skateboards

Look like rad brands.

That’s all the main brands I could find.

Added to the first post list - thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Chatbot on June 11, 2021, 06:10:45 AM

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Anyone know anything about point distribution? Friend of mine just ordered boards from there. I’ve never heard of them, their site looks kinda sus, anyone ever ridden their boards?
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I got some boards from Point. Their mellow boards are fucking flat. as their wood goes. It’s alright I guess. Since I hated the concave, I did give the wood a fair shake. I’m pretty sure the order product from China and print in the US
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I had a look at their stuff a while back too, but as you said, it seems more like a "reseller" of product, not an actual "manufacturer" as in they don't make the products there, then just buying in the blank product and putting heat transfers on decks, graphics on wheels, etc so I had not added it to the list of woodshops on the first page.

Nothing wrong with that, but some other places who do similar things are not very clear about where their product comes from and how they do business, with some even having "Made in USA" when all they do is put the heat transfer on in the USA and get boards from China.

Of course I am a long way away and don't know anything about local production in the USA so if someone else has facts and is willing to share, otherwise who knows what is going on.

https://pointdistribution.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BB_EgqhP7f5/
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Yeah definitely seems that they are just buying blank decks and reselling them with graphics. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing if the decks are good, but I have my doubts. I’ll probably steer clear, they only have 2 shapes and they don’t really appeal to me. I also don’t need more decks haha

I've been skating decks from Point for almost 9 years now and can vouch for quality. I did try clutch and had a few other brands here and there but the majority of my decks were from point.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 11, 2021, 05:41:50 PM

Quote from: Chatbot on June 11, 2021, 06:10:45 AM

I've been skating decks from Point for almost 9 years now and can vouch for quality. I did try clutch and had a few other brands here and there but the majority of my decks were from point.

Did you prefer one or the other for the different molds, mellow or steep?

What size or sizes have you tried, and was there anything to compare them to in terms of concave?

* I guess if you had been riding only those for that long, it might not be so easy to say, "Oh they feel like these other woodshops" but it is always worth asking.

Good to know any which way.

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Chatbot on June 12, 2021, 06:00:47 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 11, 2021, 05:41:50 PM

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I've been skating decks from Point for almost 9 years now and can vouch for quality. I did try clutch and had a few other brands here and there but the majority of my decks were from point.
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Did you prefer one or the other for the different molds, mellow or steep?

What size or sizes have you tried, and was there anything to compare them to in terms of concave?

* I guess if you had been riding only those for that long, it might not be so easy to say, "Oh they feel like these other woodshops" but it is always worth asking.

Good to know any which way.

Thanks!

I’ve stuck with the 8.0, steep concave which has a 14 inch wheelbase all these years. I figured if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

What I did realize since 2019ish is that the steep concave with colored veneer seem a bit mellower and have a bigger nose than the steep concave without colored veneer.

I have both types laying around somewhere (a new deck from 2017 and a new deck from 2019) so maybe I’ll take some measurements to see if they’re actually different or if it was just mental.

I haven’t been able to get any boards from them for the last 1.5 years due to the covid backup so I wouldn’t know if they changed anything up recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:43:56 AM

Anyone know which woodshop Glue is from?

I am almost going to say PS Stix but I just cannot quite make out the laser etching over the front truck well enough to say so.

Even the Instagram board pic looks like the classic PS Stix but just not sure...

(https://i.imgur.com/fD6SCNd.jpg)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP58x95FamN/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:44:10 AM

There is another thread which has a bit more info and controversy, but BBS just put up a post showing a new website, logo, etc which is worth looking at.

Thread here:

BBS MFG WEBSITE UPDATE

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=117234.0

https://bbsmfg.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP_O7KgFU6e/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:44:21 AM

I am going to put up a list with pics to help with identifying woodshops and I have a lot of pics from woodshops I know like BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Dwindle, stickers more so than markings on the boards from Control and a couple of other woodshops, but as yet there are so many that are very generic or even confusing.

An interesting thing I did see recently was the addition of Toy Machine laser etching on some boards in a local shop that takes their own pics, but am yet to see the boards in person.

I know Alien Workshop boards had this exact same thing with BBS wood (as I still have a few) but the last lot of Toy Machine decks I saw were unknown wood with "Made in China" stickers on them.

Zero boards with no markings or only a dot front middle bolt area (also made in China).

(https://i.ibb.co/zsD6Y2s/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D4TryM4)

(https://i.ibb.co/f0dw0cS/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJxRJw4)

(https://i.ibb.co/9qMF0x4/Zero-dotted-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LCGLyTg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on June 12, 2021, 08:50:50 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:44:21 AM

I am going to put up a list with pics to help with identifying woodshops and I have a lot of pics from woodshops I know like BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Dwindle, stickers more so than markings on the boards from Control and a couple of other woodshops, but as yet there are so many that are very generic or even confusing.

An interesting thing I did see recently was the addition of Toy Machine laser etching on some boards in a local shop that takes their own pics, but am yet to see the boards in person.

I know Alien Workshop boards had this exact same thing with BBS wood (as I still have a few) but the last lot of Toy Machine decks I saw were unknown wood with "Made in China" stickers on them.

Zero boards with no markings or only a dot front middle bolt area (also made in China).

(https://i.ibb.co/zsD6Y2s/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D4TryM4)

(https://i.ibb.co/f0dw0cS/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJxRJw4)

(https://i.ibb.co/9qMF0x4/Zero-dotted-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LCGLyTg)

You da mvp man, sucks that I can gnar you only once every day

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 13, 2021, 01:13:47 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:44:21 AM

I am going to put up a list with pics to help with identifying woodshops and I have a lot of pics from woodshops I know like BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Dwindle, stickers more so than markings on the boards from Control and a couple of other woodshops, but as yet there are so many that are very generic or even confusing.

An interesting thing I did see recently was the addition of Toy Machine laser etching on some boards in a local shop that takes their own pics, but am yet to see the boards in person.

I know Alien Workshop boards had this exact same thing with BBS wood (as I still have a few) but the last lot of Toy Machine decks I saw were unknown wood with "Made in China" stickers on them.

Zero boards with no markings or only a dot front middle bolt area (also made in China).

(https://i.ibb.co/zsD6Y2s/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D4TryM4)

(https://i.ibb.co/f0dw0cS/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJxRJw4)

(https://i.ibb.co/9qMF0x4/Zero-dotted-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LCGLyTg)

Probably bbs. Theyve been putting that size stamp on a lot of stuff recently, bakerboys and zero seem to have it a lot and the last little drop of TM I saw (with the dashawn board and then the axel jar egg shape) was BBS.

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Post by: j....soy..... on June 13, 2021, 06:50:12 AM

My money is on Dailan or something in China....but who knows....Id be psyched if it was BBS....If they ran all their logo boards through BBS I bet their sales would increase on the same premises why the AH Eagles sell so well....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 13, 2021, 07:18:44 PM

I could pull close ups from these two posts from Uprise, but they do a good job of showing the tops and stains of the boards too:

Street Plant is on PS Stix - warning sticker above the PS laser etched info

Fancy Lad is on Clutch - also looks like different / new size stickers on those boards, so not sure if they are doing that on all their boards, or only some brands, but the big size sticker in black and white makes it pretty clear to see (would usually have the letter / number stamped into the wood under that area too)

As has been said before, it is also interesting to see the slightly more individual stain colours from certain woodshops too, in particular the dark green for Clutch shown here.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQB5PtVphQC/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQEgQfiJHkl/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 15, 2021, 07:39:32 PM

Some good looking Darkroom BBS wood, all with tops too

Warning sticker between the front bolts and another size / shape sticker under that - the small red rectangle, sort of the reverse of how Polar BBS boards are done with the size sticker between bolts and the warning sticker under that.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQF_G0Zl2O-/

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0631/7129/products/DB-PAINTER-RED-8.375_grande.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1551/9149/products/polar-skate-co-dane-brady-bistro-dane-1-shape-688372_1024x1024.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: douchenozzle on June 21, 2021, 09:41:55 AM

I’m riding a Hopps (clutch)board right now. I’ve ridden it for about nine 1 1/2 to 2 hour sessions (mostly flat ground). I’m about to switch back to Politic. Something about tricks off of the tail feels really limp. It was decent at first. Anyone else have this issue?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Allen. on June 21, 2021, 09:54:04 AM

Quote from: douchenozzle on June 21, 2021, 09:41:55 AM

I’m riding a Hopps (clutch)board right now. I’ve ridden it for about nine 1 1/2 to 2 hour sessions (mostly flat ground). I’m about to switch back to Politic. Something about tricks off of the tail feels really limp. It was decent at first. Anyone else have this issue?

The new huf/theories/picture show shapes are fucking ass and are flat as fuck

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: TwisT on June 21, 2021, 02:55:05 PM

Anyone got an idea who garage skate shop uses for shop decks? I did DM early today.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 21, 2021, 03:54:09 PM

Quote from: Allen. on June 21, 2021, 09:54:04 AM

Quote from: douchenozzle on June 21, 2021, 09:41:55 AM
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I’m riding a Hopps (clutch)board right now. I’ve ridden it for about nine 1 1/2 to 2 hour sessions (mostly flat ground). I’m about to switch back to Politic. Something about tricks off of the tail feels really limp. It was decent at first. Anyone else have this issue?
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The new huf/theories/picture show shapes are fucking ass and are flat as fuck

Are they all Clutch as well?

Looking over the list, they were on BBS but all now are Clutch, going by what others have said.

I had seen a couple of the Huf boards here not too long ago and noted they didn't look or feel like BBS, which is what they initially felt like when they came out, maybe even a few years ago now, but hadn't had a chance to stand on any.

I did notice I don't have Huf listed at all, so would be good to add that.

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on June 21, 2021, 06:18:29 PM

PS Stix yes

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:43:56 AM

Anyone know which woodshop Glue is from?

I am almost going to say PS Stix but I just cannot quite make out the laser etching over the front truck well enough to say so.

Even the Instagram board pic looks like the classic PS Stix but just not sure...

(https://i.imgur.com/fD6SCNd.jpg)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP58x95FamN/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: ManimalChin on June 21, 2021, 06:21:58 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:44:10 AM

There is another thread which has a bit more info and controversy, but BBS just put up a post showing a new website, logo, etc which is worth looking at.

Thread here:

BBS MFG WEBSITE UPDATE

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=117234.0

https://bbsmfg.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP_O7KgFU6e/

BBS does indeed make some of the best skateboards consistently around. It's hard to find a manufacturer who's able to manufacture at that level but still maintain quality control. Most of the large China shops can't.

But lol can't say I'm surprised with Grant Burns' latest blog rantings and finally posting to IG again. I don't think there's a major manufacturer owner in skateboarding who isn't mostly crazy. Curious to see if NHS even responds, or maybe they did and I missed it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Boog on June 21, 2021, 06:22:53 PM

Quote from: Allen. on June 21, 2021, 09:54:04 AM

Quote from: douchenozzle on June 21, 2021, 09:41:55 AM
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I’m riding a Hopps (clutch)board right now. I’ve ridden it for about nine 1 1/2 to 2 hour sessions (mostly flat ground). I’m about to switch back to Politic. Something about tricks off of the tail feels really limp. It was decent at first. Anyone else have this issue?
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The new huf/theories/picture show shapes are fucking ass and are flat as fuck

I gave the theories I skated for 4 weeks to a kid at the park. Didn't even have razor tail but it did feel super limp popping off the tail. It felt water logged and never even got close to getting wet. I'm skating a stress right now and it's crispy as hell.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Allen. on June 21, 2021, 06:33:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 21, 2021, 03:54:09 PM

Quote from: Allen. on June 21, 2021, 09:54:04 AM
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Quote from: douchenozzle on June 21, 2021, 09:41:55 AM
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I’m riding a Hopps (clutch)board right now. I’ve ridden it for about nine 1 1/2 to 2 hour sessions (mostly flat ground). I’m about to switch back to Politic. Something about tricks off of the tail feels really limp. It was decent at first. Anyone else have this issue?
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The new huf/theories/picture show shapes are fucking ass and are flat as fuck
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Are they all Clutch as well?

Looking over the list, they were on BBS but all now are Clutch, going by what others have said.

I had seen a couple of the Huf boards here not too long ago and noted they didn't look or feel like BBS, which is what they initially felt like when they came out, maybe even a few years ago now, but hadn't had a chance to stand on any.

I did notice I don't have Huf listed at all, so would be good to add that.

Thanks!

I know that Traffic was clutch post pandemic, but the shapes were much better and closer to a standard BBS shape. Hopps/Picture Show/Theories and presumably Traffic all have flat, twin tapered tail shapes currently. Damn shame because I love those dudes and I’ve been skating mostly Theories distribution boards since 2017, but I’m not skating these boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 22, 2021, 07:47:31 AM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 04:32:07 PM

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Anybody know who Thumbs NYC uses?
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I want to say Drifter but I might be mixing them up with a different company.
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Checked drifters Instagram and their chart of board dimensions does match up with what thumbs offers. May have a winner.

I went ahead and ordered one from One Up in Pittsburgh and it came with the Made in Canada sticker and a number 6 stamped between the bolts, so it appears to be Control (this batch at least) which will be a first for me. It seem a bit thicker like the South Central I'm currently on and liking, so I'm hopeful.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 22, 2021, 05:11:56 PM

Quote from: ManimalChin on June 21, 2021, 06:18:29 PM

PS Stix yes

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2021, 06:43:56 AM
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Anyone know which woodshop Glue is from?

I am almost going to say PS Stix but I just cannot quite make out the laser etching over the front truck well enough to say so.

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Thanks!

Sometimes it is funny only having minimal local shop stock round here and having to rely on pics from the internet more so than anything else.

Re BBS

And yes, I think anyone who is in skateboarding long enough ends up being more than a little crazy.

List updated.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Hubba Bo-Tep on June 23, 2021, 10:28:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2021, 03:15:32 AM

All info now up to date as far as I can tell, lists sorted, etc.

Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Colours Collectiv (which also has carbon top, so I am thinking Dwindle / Excel China for wood)

I just picked up a Colours Collectiv as a wall hanger and it's Resin 7.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 23, 2021, 05:12:41 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on June 22, 2021, 07:47:31 AM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 04:32:07 PM
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Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on June 02, 2021, 01:18:06 PM
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Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on June 02, 2021, 01:05:46 PM
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Anybody know who Thumbs NYC uses?
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I want to say Drifter but I might be mixing them up with a different company.
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Checked drifters Instagram and their chart of board dimensions does match up with what thumbs offers. May have a winner.
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I went ahead and ordered one from One Up in Pittsburgh and it came with the Made in Canada sticker and a number 6 stamped between the bolts, so it appears to be Control (this batch at least) which will be a first for me. It seem a bit thicker like the South Central I'm currently on and liking, so I'm hopeful.

Added - thanks!

Quote from: wrinkletusk on June 23, 2021, 10:28:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
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All info now up to date as far as I can tell, lists sorted, etc.

Brands that seem to be in a few places / shops / countries I don't know about that I can see on some shop sites:

Colours Collectiv (which also has carbon top, so I am thinking Dwindle / Excel China for wood)

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I just picked up a Colours Collectiv as a wall hanger and it's Resin 7.

Thank you!

That one had been on my list to find out, but I don't think many people get them.

Dwindle = Resin 7

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:17:21 PM

Does anyone know how to decipher the production code digits on PS Stix decks? Had someone tell me the numbers related to the shape of the mold, would be interesting to see if we can match the shapes to the codes like Clutch does.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 23, 2021, 08:45:58 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:17:21 PM

Does anyone know how to decipher the production code digits on PS Stix decks? Had someone tell me the numbers related to the shape of the mold, would be interesting to see if we can match the shapes to the codes like Clutch does.

Wow! That is pretty cool.

I think Professor Schmitt has alluded to the fact that he can look up any board he has made in previous posts, but confirms it in this one in comments - since mid 2003, as he has it all recorded, but is not willing to give out any information like that.

Edit: Some PS Stix boards actually have Shape # 21 or whatever number it is on them, from boards I have here too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQUqedoDoNl/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: beatifk on June 24, 2021, 12:55:34 AM

Can anyone give me a quick review of Control boards?

The "local" shop is now a distro for Studio, but it's local in the sense that it's a 2 hour drive away and I'd rather just order online. Wondering if there's any reason not to try a Studio? The decks are about €10 cheaper than most brands and the graphics aren't offensive so I thought I'd give it a try unless there is a noticeable quality difference.

For reference I usually buy Quasi (PS), FA/Hockey (BBS), or the occasional AH (BBS) in that order of preference.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: douchenozzle on June 24, 2021, 08:34:02 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:17:21 PM

Does anyone know how to decipher the production code digits on PS Stix decks? Had someone tell me the numbers related to the shape of the mold, would be interesting to see if we can match the shapes to the codes like Clutch does.

the code is for the choice between a square deck and a rectangle shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: j....soy..... on June 24, 2021, 01:51:27 PM

Quote from: beatifk on June 24, 2021, 12:55:34 AM

Can anyone give me a quick review of Control boards?

The "local" shop is now a distro for Studio, but it's local in the sense that it's a 2 hour drive away and I'd rather just order online. Wondering if there's any reason not to try a Studio? The decks are about €10 cheaper than most brands and the graphics aren't offensive so I thought I'd give it a try unless there is a noticeable quality difference.

For reference I usually buy Quasi (PS), FA/Hockey (BBS), or the occasional AH (BBS) in that order of preference.

Definitely more mellow. The kicks are abrupt and flat ie not curved, but not steep. Concave is on the flatter side. Wood I felt not too bad, more on the dead side, not heavy, that aspect didn't bother me too bad. I pretty much skate BBS stuff just because they are reasonably neutral.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: beatifk on June 24, 2021, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on June 24, 2021, 01:51:27 PM

Quote from: beatifk on June 24, 2021, 12:55:34 AM
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Can anyone give me a quick review of Control boards?

The "local" shop is now a distro for Studio, but it's local in the sense that it's a 2 hour drive away and I'd rather just order online. Wondering if there's any reason not to try a Studio? The decks are about €10 cheaper than most brands and the graphics aren't offensive so I thought I'd give it a try unless there is a noticeable quality difference.

For reference I usually buy Quasi (PS), FA/Hockey (BBS), or the occasional AH (BBS) in that order of preference.
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Definitely more mellow. The kicks are abrupt and flat ie not curved, but not steep. Concave is on the flatter side. Wood I felt not too bad, more on the dead side, not heavy, that aspect didn't bother me too bad. I pretty much skate BBS stuff just because they are reasonably neutral.

Cool, thank you! Now I just need to decide if it's worth the risk to let the deck sit in a hot DHL truck before it arrives to me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 25, 2021, 01:59:31 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:17:21 PM

Does anyone know how to decipher the production code digits on PS Stix decks? Had someone tell me the numbers related to the shape of the mold, would be interesting to see if we can match the shapes to the codes like Clutch does.

First part (psxxxxx) is the order number that they would use to identify the customer/mold etc, second part (-xxxx) is the deck # from that batch. Or something to that effect, it's been a minute since I researched it.

I believe both are sequential (ie a lower number will be older). It's not a straight up mold/shape code like you'll see some places, so even though two decks might be the same mold/size/company if they were pressed in separate orders then they'll have different Psxxxxx numbers.

Over all there isn't a ton of information to be gained from it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 25, 2021, 02:31:35 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on June 25, 2021, 01:59:31 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:17:21 PM
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Does anyone know how to decipher the production code digits on PS Stix decks? Had someone tell me the numbers related to the shape of the mold, would be interesting to see if we can match the shapes to the codes like Clutch does.
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First part (psxxxxx) is the order number that they would use to identify the customer/mold etc, second part (-xxxx) is the deck # from that batch. Or something to that effect, it's been a minute since I researched it.

I believe both are sequential (ie a lower number will be older). It's not a straight up mold/shape code like you'll see some places, so even though two decks might be the same mold/size/company if they were pressed in separate orders then they'll have different Psxxxxx numbers.

Over all there isn't a ton of information to be gained from it.

Thanks - interesting explanation!

That WKND board from the instagram post above is SN# PS75525-0040

I will have to pull out some I have here, such as half a dozen of the same board from the same delivery from not so long ago and see what is on them, then compare that to some old Black Label decks that would have been very soon after 2003.

Not sure if anyone is interested in all the numbers but it is something I can do.

I also wonder how that would relate to how many boards they produce overall, which seems like it would be on a smaller scale than BBS who were doing 7,000 a day before covid and ramped up to 10,000 a day if I am not mistaken - from the Jenkem article a while back.

Found it:

http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2021/01/07/look-skateboard-drought-2020/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: LewFarrell on June 25, 2021, 12:56:11 PM

Nyjah's new brand, Disorder - PS-Stix.
Per pics on the website.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 25, 2021, 09:08:03 PM

Quote from: LewFarrell on June 25, 2021, 12:56:11 PM

Nyjah's new brand, Disorder - PS-Stix.
Per pics on the website.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0565/2693/0070/products/Disorder_ProductImage_600x.jpg)

Noted and list updated - thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 25, 2021, 09:08:34 PM

Quote from: alraunen on June 25, 2021, 08:34:48 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/dJZ410c/Processed-with-VSCO-with-a6-preset.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zHdVjh5)

-Tired 8,875
-Venture 6,1
-Bones hard bushings
-Spitfire 54mm F4 Classics 97A
-Independent GP-B bearings
-Modus hardware
-MOB

First Clutch board I ever ride, I like it but the nose and the tail are steeper than I'm used to. Also the pop feels softer than BBS Boards.

Pulled from the setup thread, Tired now on Clutch?

Interesting!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on June 26, 2021, 05:27:59 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 25, 2021, 09:08:34 PM

Quote from: alraunen on June 25, 2021, 08:34:48 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/dJZ410c/Processed-with-VSCO-with-a6-preset.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zHdVjh5)

-Tired 8,875
-Venture 6,1
-Bones hard bushings
-Spitfire 54mm F4 Classics 97A
-Independent GP-B bearings
-Modus hardware
-MOB

First Clutch board I ever ride, I like it but the nose and the tail are steeper than I'm used to. Also the pop feels softer than BBS Boards.
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Pulled from the setup thread, Tired now on Clutch?

Interesting!

With classics I never know how to out the swirls. Common sense days inside but when you out them outside and the swirls are gone you have that little ring that looks so nice.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 26, 2021, 05:56:16 AM

Page 12...

I am going to try to add more board pics to posts like this too, then cut and paste them to the first page, but I didn't want to post a heap here and flood the thread or have replies that repost the same images over and over.

A few differences in woodshop tops I have found, as per previous Toy Machine boards, here is a PS Stix (not an unknown but stickered "Made in China" board) or a laser engraved monster logo of unknown origin that I posted on the previous page.

(https://i.ibb.co/G2XD1c2/Toy-Machine-PS-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzgTsJz)

Welcome PS Stix top

(https://i.ibb.co/R6QmP1j/Welcome-PS-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lg9W6MN)

Santa Cruz / Dwindle tops - two pics as they have different looks / product number lines

(https://i.ibb.co/mNkMBxz/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPgTtr0)

(https://i.ibb.co/0f9ZJ3v/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQp6Kyx)

Madness / Dwindle top

(https://i.ibb.co/6rB8g0R/Madness-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YPZXpB7)

Almost / Dwindle top including renewal logo over back truck bolts in second pic

(https://i.ibb.co/MsK5dbc/Almost-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DtmgdN9)
(https://i.ibb.co/6rzw9cT/Almost-top-2021-01a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZG5X4RF)

Chocolate / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/SfJthPr/Chocolate-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKm2MXw)

Girl / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/K9cFfLK/Girl-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcNgMPV)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: pointandclick on June 26, 2021, 03:45:05 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 26, 2021, 05:56:16 AM

Page 12...

I am going to try to add more board pics to posts like this too, then cut and paste them to the first page, but I didn't want to post a heap here and flood the thread or have replies that repost the same images over and over.

A few differences in woodshop tops I have found, as per previous Toy Machine boards, here is a PS Stix (not an unknown but stickered "Made in China" board) or a laser engraved monster logo of unknown origin that I posted on the previous page.

(https://i.ibb.co/G2XD1c2/Toy-Machine-PS-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzgTsJz)

Welcome PS Stix top

(https://i.ibb.co/R6QmP1j/Welcome-PS-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lg9W6MN)

Santa Cruz / Dwindle tops - two pics as they have different looks / product number lines

(https://i.ibb.co/mNkMBxz/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPgTtr0)

(https://i.ibb.co/0f9ZJ3v/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQp6Kyx)

Madness / Dwindle top

(https://i.ibb.co/6rB8g0R/Madness-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YPZXpB7)

Almost / Dwindle top including renewal logo over back truck bolts in second pic

(https://i.ibb.co/MsK5dbc/Almost-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DtmgdN9)
(https://i.ibb.co/6rzw9cT/Almost-top-2021-01a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZG5X4RF)

Chocolate / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/SfJthPr/Chocolate-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKm2MXw)

Girl / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/K9cFfLK/Girl-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcNgMPV)

great work

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: RichardBarkley on June 26, 2021, 05:10:30 PM

Looks like Clutch did Ben dirty

https://youtu.be/9AmGne73Xh0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: BugleBites on June 26, 2021, 05:35:04 PM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on June 26, 2021, 05:10:30 PM

Looks like Clutch did Ben dirty

https://youtu.be/9AmGne73Xh0

Props to him for being honest, but damn, I'd never buy a board if the person selling them gave that review. I hope he told the manufacturer to get bent.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:02:53 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 26, 2021, 05:56:16 AM

Page 12...

I am going to try to add more board pics to posts like this too, then cut and paste them to the first page, but I didn't want to post a heap here and flood the thread or have replies that repost the same images over and over.

A few differences in woodshop tops I have found, as per previous Toy Machine boards, here is a PS Stix (not an unknown but stickered "Made in China" board) or a laser engraved monster logo of unknown origin that I posted on the previous page.

(https://i.ibb.co/G2XD1c2/Toy-Machine-PS-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzgTsJz)

Welcome PS Stix top

(https://i.ibb.co/R6QmP1j/Welcome-PS-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lg9W6MN)

Santa Cruz / Dwindle tops - two pics as they have different looks / product number lines

(https://i.ibb.co/mNkMBxz/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPgTtr0)

(https://i.ibb.co/0f9ZJ3v/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQp6Kyx)

Madness / Dwindle top

(https://i.ibb.co/6rB8g0R/Madness-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YPZXpB7)

Almost / Dwindle top including renewal logo over back truck bolts in second pic

(https://i.ibb.co/MsK5dbc/Almost-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DtmgdN9)
(https://i.ibb.co/6rzw9cT/Almost-top-2021-01a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZG5X4RF)

Chocolate / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/SfJthPr/Chocolate-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKm2MXw)

Girl / China top

(https://i.ibb.co/K9cFfLK/Girl-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcNgMPV)

Chefs kiss, thanks @Mbrimson88!

Quote from: BugleBites on June 26, 2021, 05:35:04 PM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on June 26, 2021, 05:10:30 PM
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Looks like Clutch did Ben dirty

https://youtu.be/9AmGne73Xh0
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Props to him for being honest, but damn, I'd never buy a board if the person selling them gave that review. I hope he told the manufacturer to get bent.

How the fuck did that happen? Did they forget about his order for 9 months and just pulled some pricepoint quality boards to dip and screen the graphics on? I expect this level of shadiness from a woodshop in China, not a reputable woodshop in North America. My guess is Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: El Chupacabra on June 26, 2021, 11:20:26 PM

Clutch threw a lot of people straight under the bus this last year.
The last straw for me was retroactively raising the price (significantly) on a 10 month old invoice.
They also basically extorted their existing customers while pushing a “support small, we all in this together” marketing campaign. They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out.

Dirty pool

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:56:25 PM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on June 26, 2021, 11:20:26 PM

Clutch threw a lot of people straight under the bus this last year.
The last straw for me was retroactively raising the price (significantly) on a 10 month old invoice.
They also basically extorted their existing customers while pushing a “support small, we all in this together” marketing campaign. They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out.

Dirty pool

"support small, we all in this together"
*raises prices on late invoice*

I know businesses typically have a late payment penalty clause in contracts / invoices, but doing that in 2020 is scummy.

"They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out. "

I was wondering what happened to the page, all makes sense now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: RichardBarkley on June 27, 2021, 05:54:26 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:56:25 PM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on June 26, 2021, 11:20:26 PM
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Clutch threw a lot of people straight under the bus this last year.
The last straw for me was retroactively raising the price (significantly) on a 10 month old invoice.
They also basically extorted their existing customers while pushing a “support small, we all in this together” marketing campaign. They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out.

Dirty pool
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"support small, we all in this together"
*raises prices on late invoice*

I know businesses typically have a late payment penalty clause in contracts / invoices, but doing that in 2020 is scummy.

"They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out. "

I was wondering what happened to the page, all makes sense now.

Wasn't there people calling them out for extremely delayed orders too?

Like it goes both ways. If your not holding up your end with schedule. Then it's pretty rich to retroactively raise prices.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM

Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: douchenozzle on June 27, 2021, 06:46:14 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on June 27, 2021, 05:54:26 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:56:25 PM
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Quote from: El Chupacabra on June 26, 2021, 11:20:26 PM
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Clutch threw a lot of people straight under the bus this last year.
The last straw for me was retroactively raising the price (significantly) on a 10 month old invoice.
They also basically extorted their existing customers while pushing a “support small, we all in this together” marketing campaign. They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out.

Dirty pool
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"support small, we all in this together"
*raises prices on late invoice*

I know businesses typically have a late payment penalty clause in contracts / invoices, but doing that in 2020 is scummy.

"They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out. "

I was wondering what happened to the page, all makes sense now.
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Wasn't there people calling them out for extremely delayed orders too?

Like it goes both ways. If your not holding up your end with schedule. Then it's pretty rich to retroactively raise prices.

Not to mention the quality of their wood is questionable. Shady tactics hiding under the American flag

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lou Strux on June 27, 2021, 06:50:56 AM

Quote from: douchenozzle on June 27, 2021, 06:46:14 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on June 27, 2021, 05:54:26 AM
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Quote from: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:56:25 PM
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Quote from: El Chupacabra on June 26, 2021, 11:20:26 PM
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Clutch threw a lot of people straight under the bus this last year.
The last straw for me was retroactively raising the price (significantly) on a 10 month old invoice.
They also basically extorted their existing customers while pushing a “support small, we all in this together” marketing campaign. They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out.

Dirty pool
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"support small, we all in this together"
*raises prices on late invoice*

I know businesses typically have a late payment penalty clause in contracts / invoices, but doing that in 2020 is scummy.

"They deleted their Instagram once people started calling them out. "

I was wondering what happened to the page, all makes sense now.
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Wasn't there people calling them out for extremely delayed orders too?

Like it goes both ways. If your not holding up your end with schedule. Then it's pretty rich to retroactively raise prices.
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Not to mention the quality of their wood is questionable. Shady tactics hiding under the ~~American~~ Mexican flag.

They’re made in Mexico too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 07:37:17 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM

Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/

In defense of dipped boards, I've had some Hockey decks that were top tier. 3 colored plies, graphic screened over the dip, and wood that last and kept its pop for months. Can't say enough good things about the few I've had.

Part of me wonders if the mystery woodshop is what Crail uses and they're protecting their source. Ben posted some positive reviews of some of their boards and the etching on the top looks kind of similar.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 07:58:43 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 07:37:17 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
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Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

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In defense of dipped boards, I've had some Hockey decks that were top tier. 3 colored plies, graphic screened over the dip, and wood that last and kept its pop for months. Can't say enough good things about the few I've had.

Part of me wonders if the mystery woodshop is what Crail uses and they're protecting their source. Ben posted some positive reviews of some of their boards and the etching on the top looks kind of similar.

Curious was it BBS or PS Stix?

To be fair too, in looking back over pics, that is actually now three brands that I have seen dipped boards from BBS that have had coloured ply layers inside them - two I knew from DLX, Bakerboys / Birdhouse and as you have said Hockey / FA that makes three, but another two or more BBS I had seen recently were just plain wood and were so soft, just like their price point boards with people breaking them pretty quickly, sad to say.

I wanted to try these other new ones I saw recently in another shop (or even scratch off some paint to check underneath), but I will never ride a dipped board again - most I remember being older PS Stix (Black Label), most of the NHS / Santa Cruz reissues and a few others from woodshops I cannot recall right now.

That Instagram pic is of the Ben DG "steep and sturdy" deck, as per the red stain blank he holds up in the last clip and has skated before. It is getting harder to tell as most of those unknown woodshops now all have a bit more tech laser etching process, but many still have slightly different font or order of things, but as you said, I wouldn't be surprised if it is from that woodshop too.

I am always happy to be corrected and would much rather have accurate information from anyone else than my own often muddled thoughts on things like dipped boards too.

Interesting to see more info come to light about those boards, if indeed they are from Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 08:07:08 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 07:58:43 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 07:37:17 AM
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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
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Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

[close]

In defense of dipped boards, I've had some Hockey decks that were top tier. 3 colored plies, graphic screened over the dip, and wood that last and kept its pop for months. Can't say enough good things about the few I've had.

Part of me wonders if the mystery woodshop is what Crail uses and they're protecting their source. Ben posted some positive reviews of some of their boards and the etching on the top looks kind of similar.
[close]

Curious was it BBS or PS Stix?

To be fair too, in looking back over pics, that is actually now three brands that I have seen dipped boards from BBS that have had coloured ply layers inside them - two I knew from DLX, Bakerboys / Birdhouse and as you have said Hockey / FA that makes three, but another two or more BBS I had seen recently were just plain wood and were so soft, just like their price point boards with people breaking them pretty quickly, sad to say.

I wanted to try these other new ones I saw recently in another shop (or even scratch off some paint to check underneath), but I will never ride a dipped board again - most I remember being older PS Stix (Black Label), most of the NHS / Santa Cruz reissues and a few others from woodshops I cannot recall right now.

That Instagram pic is of the Ben DG "steep and sturdy" deck, as per the red stain blank he holds up in the last clip and has skated before. It is getting harder to tell as most of those unknown woodshops now all have a bit more tech laser etching process, but many still have slightly different font or order of things, but as you said, I wouldn't be surprised if it is from that woodshop too.

I am always happy to be corrected and would much rather have accurate information from anyone else than my own often muddled thoughts on things like dipped boards too.

Interesting to see more info come to light about those boards, if indeed they are from Clutch.

All the good dipped Hockey boards were BBS. Other than a Tired that I use as my cruiser I've had pretty negative experiences with PS over the last few years.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on June 27, 2021, 09:12:36 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 07:37:17 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
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Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/
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Part of me wonders if the mystery woodshop is what Crail uses and they're protecting their source. Ben posted some positive reviews of some of their boards and the etching on the top looks kind of similar.

I doubt so, there are 100s of woodshops in China, maybe more and I'm sure agents / middlemen hold their cards very close to their chest when it comes to supplier / client lists. Crail probably has huge order commitments (10k a batch or more) with the woodshop, unlikely this manufacturer would work with Canada Skate Shop with a fraction of the ordering capacity. If you go on Alibaba you can chat with manufactures of varying quality, for as little as 200 boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 28, 2021, 03:02:20 AM

This was the post I was trying to find earlier to put up with the other one.

Says capacity 30,000 decks a month.

Seems like a lot, but it is probably a lot more than some other places.

BBS still the biggest at 10,000 a day?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQoEaKsF-oB/

Another one just tossed in there too - Dwindle regrowth logos, all printed, none burned into the decks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/COSybxTBNj4/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Brad Breath on June 28, 2021, 06:48:08 PM

I got a Space Program deck today. It has a single dot, on top, between the front truck bolts.

Are they 100% BBS?

Has a great shape and concave.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 29, 2021, 05:18:18 AM

Quote from: Brad Breath on June 28, 2021, 06:48:08 PM

I got a Space Program deck today. It has a single dot, on top, between the front truck bolts.

Are they 100% BBS?

Has a great shape and concave.

That is what I was told, older stock was from Quincy or similar, but all the normal / current stock is on BBS, with the tell as you said, the single dot, usually a fairly blunt round mark right in the middle of the front bolts area.

This is not to be confused with a sharp pointed hit or minimal x like a very small phillips screwdriver mark, which is more common on the unknown woodshops from China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Kevve on June 30, 2021, 03:47:08 AM

Is this the right place for shape questions?

Im looking for a 8.5 or preferably a 8.625 (to fit My 8.75 trucks) thats longer than normal. I need a 14.5-14.75 wheelbase to make sure the board is longer than a normal 8.5 so there's enough room for my legs.

Any brands out there that got the extra length & wb?

My friends new deck was a 8.5 * 32.6 with a 14.75 wb which seems really rare but I really dont feel like buying a element board..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 30, 2021, 04:19:47 AM

Quote from: Kevve on June 30, 2021, 03:47:08 AM

Is this the right place for shape questions?

Im looking for a 8.5 or preferably a 8.625 (to fit My 8.75 trucks) thats longer than normal. I need a 14.5-14.75 wheelbase to make sure the board is longer than a normal 8.5 so there's enough room for my legs.

Any brands out there that got the extra length & wb?

My friends new deck was a 8.5 * 32.6 with a 14.75 wb which seems really rare but I really dont feel like buying a element board..

Funny you mention that Element deck, as it is BBS and they do a few that are out there, such as UMA Landsleds - also having an 8.5 with a 14.75 wheelbase, as did some DLX boards too that I have, but they are going more towards the shorter wheelbases nowdays.

There are a few others too, including the AH eagle cream background 8.62 with 14.75 wheelbase, as per most of their other 8.62 width DLX boards - again just not the Cardiel shape as that is shorter.

As for other brands, Madness does something around that size and wb, Jack Fardell pro model.

I saw a few locally here too from unknown woodshops so most likely not something you could get in UK / EU - is that where you are?

This just happened to come up earlier today and I was going to post in this thread anyway, just another board brand with an unknown / miscellaneous supplier most likely from China with the size over the back bolt area and no idea about wheelbase on that one, but the others with similar stamps had longer than normal wheelbases.

Also didn't realise this lot are Dutch:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQtYr76FjIX/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Murge on June 30, 2021, 05:48:40 AM

Quote from: Kevve on June 30, 2021, 03:47:08 AM

Is this the right place for shape questions?

Im looking for a 8.5 or preferably a 8.625 (to fit My 8.75 trucks) thats longer than normal. I need a 14.5-14.75 wheelbase to make sure the board is longer than a normal 8.5 so there's enough room for my legs.

Any brands out there that got the extra length & wb?

My friends new deck was a 8.5 * 32.6 with a 14.75 wb which seems really rare but I really dont feel like buying a element board..

Bacon has so 14.75wb. But they may be 8.75 wide

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 30, 2021, 01:39:38 PM

Quote from: Kevve on June 30, 2021, 03:47:08 AM

Is this the right place for shape questions?

Im looking for a 8.5 or preferably a 8.625 (to fit My 8.75 trucks) thats longer than normal. I need a 14.5-14.75 wheelbase to make sure the board is longer than a normal 8.5 so there's enough room for my legs.

Any brands out there that got the extra length & wb?

My friends new deck was a 8.5 * 32.6 with a 14.75 wb which seems really rare but I really dont feel like buying a element board..

(https://i.ibb.co/JtTgYkf/Uma-deck-long-8-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T2GdQhV)

I realised I forgot to put the AH catalog pic in too, first one:

8.62 x 32.56 with 14.75 wheelbase

(https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/summer21/antihero-summer-21-02.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 30, 2021, 02:19:13 PM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on June 27, 2021, 07:37:17 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
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Interesting that they prefer this "mystery woodshop from China" than a big reputable woodshop, but it also stands to reason that any board that is "dipped" is almost always just cheap / budget wood that they know they can pass off as whatever they want, as per all the dipped boards I have had over the years and similar experiences everyone else has had, eg not been happy with the wood quality.

I could liken that review to some other price point boards from well known big suppliers from almost all top brands - they have their pro wood and they have the cheaper stuff, and for most you can really tell the difference - no matter what they call it or special branding they put on it...

Anyway, just one of those things and as I am obsessed with looking at the tops of boards, I saw this after watching the video so thought it would be good to post here too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/
[close]

In defense of dipped boards, I've had some Hockey decks that were top tier. 3 colored plies, graphic screened over the dip, and wood that last and kept its pop for months. Can't say enough good things about the few I've had.

Part of me wonders if the mystery woodshop is what Crail uses and they're protecting their source. Ben posted some positive reviews of some of their boards and the etching on the top looks kind of similar.

have to agree with you: all dipped FA + Hockey boards I had (all BBS) where top quality and lasted forever.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 02, 2021, 04:29:28 PM

Quote from: BugleBites on June 26, 2021, 05:35:04 PM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on June 26, 2021, 05:10:30 PM
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Looks like (they) did Ben dirty

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Props to him for being honest, but damn, I'd never buy a board if the person selling them gave that review. I hope he told the manufacturer to get bent.

@rocklobster

Confirmed by the board pics, as you guys said.

https://canadaskateshop.com/product/8-25-exploding-wasp-graphic-skateboard-deck/

https://canadaskateshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/IMG_20210621_213300_822-scaled.jpg

https://canadaskateshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/IMG_20210621_213932_208-scaled.jpg

Not that big a deal (apart from the obvious issues as stated from the video - paid for pro wood in specific shapes and sizes, got something else and had to wait a super long time for it), but to be decent and honest too, they have not specifically said who the boards are from, so are not trying to burn the supplier, but if that was me, I would be pretty pissed too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 02, 2021, 11:50:32 PM

Quote from: TwisT on July 02, 2021, 04:07:41 PM

Bought a tactic board on the go skate day sale. This one was a painted color rather than a exposed stain like some. But it did have this this even better 3 color stain under.

Also got some bones 99s

(https://i.imgur.com/x7RW39ml.jpg)

It was the tactic icon shop deck. In lavander. Some are clearly exposed stain at the the bottom. This one was not. I thought it was generally accepted that tactics uses bbs for shop boards. I know this stain colorway was in the clutch catalog way back, but I also know woodshops can get their veneers from the same place ore died.

Theres no identifying marks other than the notch.

That looks pretty cool.

EDIT: Just the dot between the front bolts = BBS then.

Thanks for the info.

And yes I thought it has been said before Tactics are all BBS but then seeing that made me think it might have been a certain other lot of wood if they couldn't get more from the usual supplier.

Is it Clutch wood (stamped letter and number between the front bolts?

Looks just like this one at any rate:

(https://i.ibb.co/3vRpQgF/Clutch-Woodshop-shapes-2012-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDK2STs)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 04, 2021, 04:32:08 PM

A couple of interesting things to see if you zoom in on Instagram posts:

New Doom Sayers are looking like the PS Stix tops, sticker up above on the nose and laser etching I just cannot quite make out but it looks like the right amount of lines and stuff in the same place as usual.

The fifth frame

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ1__4fBPeN/

The Carpet Co (BBS wood) always do cool things.

Special hand screened and info like number every board, looks like a rubber stamp on the underside.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ33pCGpbrW/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Lloyd Braun on July 05, 2021, 08:28:53 AM

Here’s a pic of a clutch boards top

(https://i.ibb.co/yXSjHqS/9-BE30-F4-A-611-B-40-AC-8500-08070278-BC63.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yXSjHqS)

Everyone I’ve had is the same, small sticker with the size and stamped number/letter. In this case O9

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: venture5.8 on July 05, 2021, 09:08:47 AM

not sure if this has been said already but I saw a skate mental board at the shop the other day and it was deff clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 05, 2021, 03:22:32 PM

Quote from: Lloyd Braun on July 05, 2021, 08:28:53 AM

Here’s a pic of a clutch boards top

Everyone I’ve had is the same, small sticker with the size and stamped number/letter. In this case O9

Quote from: fat philly skater on July 05, 2021, 09:08:47 AM

not sure if this has been said already but I saw a skate mental board at the shop the other day and it was deff clutch

Thanks - list updated.

Crazy to think how many board brands are using Clutch now too, who might have used BBS or PS Stix before.

I guess they are picking up all the brands who have been left out or cannot get boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 05, 2021, 03:33:10 PM

I know this has been posted before in other places, but woodshop tours don't get much more in depth than this:

Tour of BBS woodshop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbNQ1dLKGU

Tour of HLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL95owgph20

Tour of Drifter Skateboard Manufacturing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSks7-1PIcw

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 05, 2021, 03:39:27 PM

A couple of links:

Although outdated now, this is an interesting list for who, what and where in terms of skateboard manufacturing companies and people

https://www.fysboard.com/worldwide-skateboard-manufacturers-list/

This was a curious one with info on the companies that make products from some of the bigger distros and brand names too

https://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-8b5oDFoRZ/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQLy83MnPyk/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoVurKj4z_/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BM4pPC-gsgE/

And a bit of fun

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYO6qADg1Km/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 01:49:04 AM

Does anyone know which woodshop Jeremie Daclin's "Into the Wild" use...I assumed it would be DSM, with the Cliche connection, but then again maybe not. I didn't see them on the list.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 06, 2021, 02:21:32 AM

Quote from: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 01:49:04 AM

Does anyone know which woodshop Jeremie Daclin's "Into the Wild" use...I assumed it would be DSM, with the Cliche connection, but then again maybe not. I didn't see them on the list.

I recall someone having the big boy board, saying they thought it was a Polar at first, same concave, so could be BBS.

Looking at their Instagram, I didn't see anything on top of the boards, so I wonder if it is the mellow mold from HLC.

Hi res top and bottom here:

https://www.sluggerskatestore.co.uk/collections/into-the-wild/products/into-the-wild-chet-childress-adul-skoorc-skateboard-deck-8-75

Maybe hit them up and they might answer, then you can let everyone know.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdYLCHKZPf/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5V47fl0hS/

EDIT:

I found this one in the Big Boards thread and messaged him to ask too, and the other one too...

Quote from: Jory4 on March 09, 2021, 10:56:25 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/3cbmx8d/357-ACD16-0-FD8-4-F9-F-85-C7-AEEB4-DFA344-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3cbmx8d)

(https://i.ibb.co/Kj4Jg1F/87915-D86-6-E97-4121-9-B42-37-A54-D5-ED2-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj4Jg1F)

Jeremie Daclin / Into the wild Blender Tribute (just) 9” but figured you guys would appreciate it
Ace 55
56 / 99 Speedlab Slappy hour
Rib bones
Random hardware
Read and Destroy Sticker

Happy Feet

Quote from: bigdave on April 30, 2021, 06:02:33 PM

I pretty much completely hate myself, my weight, my body image issues, etc. so I figured I'd get a skateboard dedicated to it.

Into the Wild 9" tapering shape w/ Pontus Alv art.
Gold 55 Ace AF1s
56mm 99a Slime Ball Guts
Bronson G3s
Ace 7/8" Allen
Mob w/ a clear window for the top sheet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51148726477_4c86bf132a_k.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 04:18:12 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 06, 2021, 02:21:32 AM

Quote from: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 01:49:04 AM
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Does anyone know which woodshop Jeremie Daclin's "Into the Wild" use...I assumed it would be DSM, with the Cliche connection, but then again maybe not. I didn't see them on the list.
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I recall someone having the big boy board, saying they thought it was a Polar at first, same concave, so could be BBS.

Looking at their Instagram, I didn't see anything on top of the boards, so I wonder if it is the mellow mold from HLC.

Hi res top and bottom here:

https://www.sluggerskatestore.co.uk/collections/into-the-wild/products/into-the-wild-chet-childress-adul-skoorc-skateboard-deck-8-75

Maybe hit them up and they might answer, then you can let everyone know.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdYLCHKZPf/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5V47fl0hS/

EDIT:

I found this one in the Big Boards thread and messaged him to ask too, and the other one too...

Quote from: Jory4 on March 09, 2021, 10:56:25 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/3cbmx8d/357-ACD16-0-FD8-4-F9-F-85-C7-AEEB4-DFA344-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3cbmx8d)

(https://i.ibb.co/Kj4Jg1F/87915-D86-6-E97-4121-9-B42-37-A54-D5-ED2-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj4Jg1F)

Jeremie Daclin / Into the wild Blender Tribute (just) 9” but figured you guys would appreciate it
Ace 55
56 / 99 Speedlab Slappy hour
Rib bones
Random hardware
Read and Destroy Sticker

Happy Feet
[close]

Quote from: bigdave on April 30, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
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I pretty much completely hate myself, my weight, my body image issues, etc. so I figured I'd get a skateboard dedicated to it.

Into the Wild 9" tapering shape w/ Pontus Alv art.
Gold 55 Ace AF1s
56mm 99a Slime Ball Guts
Bronson G3s
Ace 7/8" Allen
Mob w/ a clear window for the top sheet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51148726477_4c86bf132a_k.jpg)
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Plan, have just hit them up. Let's see if we get anything back :-)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 07:10:08 AM

Thanks for this amazing collection. On our fast spinning globe skateboard brands are popping up/out of nowhere like mushrooms. I think we really need to pay attention to where our boards come from, even though we might not really care at the end... :D

It's remarkable to watch the asian skate scene boom. Finally skaters from China or Thailand or Indonesia and of course South Korea and Japan are about to be accepted in their countries :D Teams are founded here and there and brands are established with them or because of them. Nice!

I was guessing where "Preduce Skateboards" (brand from Thailand) and Santai Skateboards (brand from Indonesia/Malaysia) are made. They gain more popularity within the scene and Middle Europe. So they cannot be that crappy I suppose. Any idea if we can add them to one or the other woodshop or distributer of this thread?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 09:00:24 AM

"Into The Wild" have confirmed that they are DSM.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 06, 2021, 02:26:46 PM

Quote from: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 07:10:08 AM

Thanks for this amazing collection. On our fast spinning globe skateboard brands are popping up/out of nowhere like mushrooms. I think we really need to pay attention to where our boards come from, even though we might not really care at the end... :D

It's remarkable to watch the asian skate scene boom. Finally skaters from China or Thailand or Indonesia and of course South Korea and Japan are about to be accepted in their countries :D Teams are founded here and there and brands are established with them or because of them. Nice!

I was guessing where "Preduce Skateboards" (brand from Thailand) and Santai Skateboards (brand from Indonesia/Malaysia) are made. They gain more popularity within the scene and Middle Europe. So they cannot be that crappy I suppose. Any idea if we can add them to one or the other woodshop or distributer of this thread?

Hi!

Yes, I am happy to help and add any to the list.

Do you know where they are from (woodshop) or have top pics with board markings / stamps / laser etching info?

Add any info, eg just put up the Instagram post or website link, or if unknown, I can add to the "Unknown" list so at least they are on there.

A few local brands are using unknown wood from China and people have said they like it and it skates well for them, so no worries there.

https://www.instagram.com/preduce_skateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/santai_skateboards/

Quote from: JK42 on July 06, 2021, 09:00:24 AM

"Into The Wild" have confirmed that they are DSM.

Ha yeah, I asked too.

Dwindle it is.

Must have thought he was being flooded.

List updated with Into the Wild.

Thanks for the help too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 04:31:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 06, 2021, 02:26:46 PM

Quote from: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 07:10:08 AM
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Thanks for this amazing collection. On our fast spinning globe skateboard brands are popping up/out of nowhere like mushrooms. I think we really need to pay attention to where our boards come from, even though we might not really care at the end... :D

It's remarkable to watch the asian skate scene boom. Finally skaters from China or Thailand or Indonesia and of course South Korea and Japan are about to be accepted in their countries :D Teams are founded here and there and brands are established with them or because of them. Nice!

I was guessing where "Preduce Skateboards" (brand from Thailand) and Santai Skateboards (brand from Indonesia/Malaysia) are made. They gain more popularity within the scene and Middle Europe. So they cannot be that crappy I suppose. Any idea if we can add them to one or the other woodshop or distributer of this thread?
[close]

Hi!

Yes, I am happy to help and add any to the list.

Do you know where they are from (woodshop) or have top pics with board markings / stamps / laser etching info?

Add any info, eg just put up the Instagram post or website link, or if unknown, I can add to the "Unknown" list so at least they are on there.

A few local brands are using unknown wood from China and people have said they like it and it skates well for them, so no worries there.

https://www.instagram.com/preduce_skateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/santai_skateboards/

Thanks a lot for your warm welcome and offered help. Let’s see if those hashtags will tell you someting… on the pictures there you can see stickers and cards regarding a board component called “SHLTech+“. Maybe that helps.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQVooDsFPxI (https://www.instagram.com/p/CQVooDsFPxI)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGaB4nAHqQt (https://www.instagram.com/p/CGaB4nAHqQt)

Please enter/search for these tags for more pictures if needed:
#shltech
#shltechplus

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on July 06, 2021, 04:36:20 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/zRrN2KGl.jpg)
Curious about where this board comes from.
Is a brand from Chile which is not skater owned, quality seems to be decent enough and they're quite cheap.
Made in China for sure, just wonder from where specifically

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2021, 06:15:20 AM

Quote from: moonordie on July 06, 2021, 04:36:20 PM

Curious about where this board comes from.
Is a brand from Chile which is not skater owned, quality seems to be decent enough and they're quite cheap.
Made in China for sure, just wonder from where specifically

Don't recall seeing that before - a "2" sort of upside down?

There are so many various boards coming out of who knows where (as you said, mostly China) but that looks more like a Clutch stamp, missing the letter and I doubt you would be riding anything as small as the usual boards with a 2 on them, eg S 2 is 7.625 wide as per previous page Clutch sheet.

I guess if you did buy it, you can stand on it to check if it feels like any other woodshop you have bought from, or see if the brand has any other info, or is willing to offer info via their contact page, Instagram or other social media, etc.

Often surprising how many do reply with which woodshop they use, which is nice.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on July 07, 2021, 06:23:20 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2021, 06:15:20 AM

Quote from: moonordie on July 06, 2021, 04:36:20 PM
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Curious about where this board comes from.
Is a brand from Chile which is not skater owned, quality seems to be decent enough and they're quite cheap.
Made in China for sure, just wonder from where specifically
[close]

Don't recall seeing that before - a "2" sort of upside down?

There are so many various boards coming out of who knows where (as you said, mostly China) but that looks more like a Clutch stamp, missing the letter and I doubt you would be riding anything as small as the usual boards with a 2 on them, eg S 2 is 7.625 wide as per previous page Clutch sheet.

I guess if you did buy it, you can stand on it to check if it feels like any other woodshop you have bought from, or see if the brand has any other info, or is willing to offer info via their contact page, Instagram or other social media, etc.

Often surprising how many do reply with which woodshop they use, which is nice.

I also thought but could be Clutch, never skated one but quality seems ok-ish. Thing is that they sell them really cheap so I can't imagine they would be making that much profit.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: rocklobster on July 07, 2021, 09:02:05 AM

Quote from: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 04:31:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 06, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
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Quote from: Heesley on July 06, 2021, 07:10:08 AM
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Thanks for this amazing collection. On our fast spinning globe skateboard brands are popping up/out of nowhere like mushrooms. I think we really need to pay attention to where our boards come from, even though we might not really care at the end... :D

It's remarkable to watch the asian skate scene boom. Finally skaters from China or Thailand or Indonesia and of course South Korea and Japan are about to be accepted in their countries :D Teams are founded here and there and brands are established with them or because of them. Nice!

I was guessing where "Preduce Skateboards" (brand from Thailand) and Santai Skateboards (brand from Indonesia/Malaysia) are made. They gain more popularity within the scene and Middle Europe. So they cannot be that crappy I suppose. Any idea if we can add them to one or the other woodshop or distributer of this thread?
[close]

Hi!

Yes, I am happy to help and add any to the list.

Do you know where they are from (woodshop) or have top pics with board markings / stamps / laser etching info?

Add any info, eg just put up the Instagram post or website link, or if unknown, I can add to the "Unknown" list so at least they are on there.

A few local brands are using unknown wood from China and people have said they like it and it skates well for them, so no worries there.

https://www.instagram.com/preduce_skateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/santai_skateboards/

[close]

Thanks a lot for your warm welcome and offered help. Let’s see if those hashtags will tell you someting… on the pictures there you can see stickers and cards regarding a board component called “SHLTech+“. Maybe that helps.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQVooDsFPxI (https://www.instagram.com/p/CQVooDsFPxI)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGaB4nAHqQt (https://www.instagram.com/p/CGaB4nAHqQt)

Please enter/search for these tags for more pictures if needed:
#shltech
#shltechplus

@Heesley - thank you for bringing up Preduce, as a fellow Asian I appreciate their Thai inspired graphics and their team / videos are the best. I assume it's definitely China wood but from a top tier woodshop; unless you're an industry insider from China I doubt we could accurately track all of them. 90% of boards from China woodshops follow a standard dimension of 8 x 31.6 x 14 so local brands like DBH, Doggies, Justice and some "Euro" brands (BDskateco, Droshky, Nomad) follow these dimensions. Preduce does more sizes (8.125, 8.25, 8.38, 8.5) with longer lengths, so my guess is one of the less popular woodshops in China.

@Mbrimson88 mentioned Excel woodshop in the past and they may do boards for some Australian brands and ones with the carbon fiber inserts.

Santai could be pressed in Malaysia, I know 1 local brand that uses a local woodshop, or maybe they just bring 1000s of blanks in from China and screen the graphics on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Heesley on July 07, 2021, 12:02:29 PM

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@Heesley - thank you for bringing up Preduce, as a fellow Asian I appreciate their Thai inspired graphics and their team / videos are the best. I assume it's definitely China wood but from a top tier woodshop; unless you're an industry insider from China I doubt we could accurately track all of them. 90% of boards from China woodshops follow a standard dimension of 8 x 31.6 x 14 so local brands like DBH, Doggies, Justice and some "Euro" brands (BDskateco, Droshky, Nomad) follow these dimensions. Preduce does more sizes (8.125, 8.25, 8.38, 8.5) with longer lengths, so my guess is one of the less popular woodshops in China.

@Mbrimson88 mentioned Excel woodshop in the past and they may do boards for some Australian brands and ones with the carbon fiber inserts.

Santai could be pressed in Malaysia, I know 1 local brand that uses a local woodshop, or maybe they just bring 1000s of blanks in from China and screen the graphics on.

@rocklobster
I'm happy I'm not alone. Preduce is well-known actually and their decks are sold throughout Asia. Like mentioned before, even Europe discovered their brand a few years ago, they have retailers in Switzerland, UK, the Netherlands... so, I also guess, they must have at least good quality woods from China. One of my friends purchased two of their decks and he is really happy. He told me they confirmed China. So we can list them for now as "China" but unknown. They started 2002 or something, I guess. I also think they let their decks produce from one of the top teir woodshop there. Which of those we know can handle the fiber carbon ply? Santa Cruz is doing such things. Dwindle? No way LOL. Sure, you're right, quite difficult to track them all back. But I see a good chance. Let's try! We all love their graphics influenced by Thai culture. They are doing great. They also offer 8" width and 31.75" length and 14" WB (my friend's deck). But you mentioned "less popular woodshops in China"... but which of the less popular ones from China can deal with fiber carbon ply and epoxy resin glue at the same time ;D Excel Woodshop??? Hmmm...

Regarding Santai, they are still quite unknown but skating scene is growing fast, just to mention Bali.

(https://i.ibb.co/Tb8zCqz/Screenshot-2021-07-07-at-20-52-42.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2021, 09:41:28 PM

Quote from: moonordie on July 07, 2021, 06:23:20 AM

Found this woodshop closer to you...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQTgD2MDWoR/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on July 09, 2021, 12:24:38 PM

Was thinking about Cleaver, anybody knows where they come from? I would say HCL because of location

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 09, 2021, 12:35:12 PM

The cleaver website says made in mexico. And I think I remember Diego said in his (slam city?) interview they are made in mexico now.

Edit, found the interview:
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-diego-bucchieri/

He said, he uses one of the three biggest manus in mexico. Whichever that is.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: moonordie on July 09, 2021, 01:49:26 PM

^ gnar for you sir.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2021, 04:14:43 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on July 09, 2021, 12:35:12 PM

The cleaver website says made in mexico. And I think I remember Diego said in his (slam city?) interview they are made in mexico now.

Edit, found the interview:
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-diego-bucchieri/

He said, he uses one of the three biggest manus in mexico. Whichever that is.

BBS, PS Stix or ASF / Clutch then.

Makes sense if he still has the connections, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: toque on July 09, 2021, 09:06:02 PM

Is Clutch/ASF lead-time still a year plus??

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: RichardBarkley on July 10, 2021, 01:59:37 AM

Quote from: toque on July 09, 2021, 09:06:02 PM

Is Clutch/ASF lead-time still a year plus??

Jesus

These woodshops must be killing it if the wait time is that long. Covid or not

When I ran a record label we used to have really long wait times for vinyl to get pressed. A year +

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 11, 2021, 05:40:47 PM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on July 10, 2021, 01:59:37 AM

Quote from: toque on July 09, 2021, 09:06:02 PM
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Is Clutch/ASF lead-time still a year plus??
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Jesus

These woodshops must be killing it if the wait time is that long. Covid or not

When I ran a record label we used to have really long wait times for vinyl to get pressed. A year +

Its entirely down to covid. BBS was pressing 7000-10000 decks a day and I'm guessing PS and asf are up there too. Mexico had some serious covid issues and some of the shops were basically shut down for weeks and even after re-opening had to deal with manpower shortages and precautions interfering with work flow, so you can imagine what the backlog is like. Aside from that, the actual raw materials they use like veneer have had supply chain issues and have sometimes been hard to come by. Then there's also logistics issues, and to top it all off when the pandemic hit board sales exploded. So you basically had higher demand for a product that was being produced more slowly and in lesser quantities, which made the backlog even worse.

Even smaller US shops like SC have much longer production times right now. It does seem like there's a ton of wood in the shops now which means that demand has leveled out, production has increased, or both. The market will regulate itself eventually, but I think its still going to be a while before its back to pre-pandemic levels.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM

How long have the BBS pressed boards had the hologram sticker on it? Saw it for the first time today.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 12, 2021, 01:40:48 AM

Quote from: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM

How long have the BBS pressed boards had the hologram sticker on it? Saw it for the first time today.

What was it on, as in which brand or any other info (I am always too curious)?

I had to go back and check their site for info:

https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/

MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: HORSES on July 12, 2021, 02:17:30 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 12, 2021, 01:40:48 AM

Quote from: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
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How long have the BBS pressed boards had the hologram sticker on it? Saw it for the first time today.
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What was it on, as in which brand or any other info (I am always too curious)?

I had to go back and check their site for info:

https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/

MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)

Yep, that's the sticker. Was on a Hockey 8.44 from last weeks drop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Heesley on July 12, 2021, 09:18:59 AM

Quote from: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM

MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)

Is there btw sth similar for PS Stix, a mark, a sign, a scratch or sth else reliable to make sure the PS stix board in my hands is definitely a „Professor-made“ one?

Thanks for any hint.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Murge on July 12, 2021, 09:54:24 AM

Quote from: Heesley on July 12, 2021, 09:18:59 AM

Quote from: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
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MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)
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Is there btw sth similar for PS Stix, a mark, a sign, a scratch or sth else reliable to make sure the PS stix board in my hands is definitely a „Professor-made“ one?

Thanks for any hint.

Usually PS Stix has a laser etched serial number and the number will start with PS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Heesley on July 12, 2021, 11:27:08 AM

Quote from: Murge on July 12, 2021, 09:54:24 AM

Quote from: Heesley on July 12, 2021, 09:18:59 AM
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Quote from: HORSES on July 11, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
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MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)
[close]

Is there btw sth similar for PS Stix, a mark, a sign, a scratch or sth else reliable to make sure the PS stix board in my hands is definitely a „Professor-made“ one?

Thanks for any hint.
[close]

Usually PS Stix has a laser etched serial number and the number will start with PS.

Then I’d better be relieved! ;D I assumed those marks are also subject to copy… ? But, sure, you can definitely asked Mr Smitt directly. Thanks mate!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: boogs on July 12, 2021, 11:31:00 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 12, 2021, 01:40:48 AM

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How long have the BBS pressed boards had the hologram sticker on it? Saw it for the first time today.
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What was it on, as in which brand or any other info (I am always too curious)?

I had to go back and check their site for info:

https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/

MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)

I’ve seen the bbs sticker on baker, birdhouse, deathwish and heroin.

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Post by: moonordie on July 12, 2021, 03:34:52 PM

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MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)
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Is there btw sth similar for PS Stix, a mark, a sign, a scratch or sth else reliable to make sure the PS stix board in my hands is definitely a „Professor-made“ one?

Thanks for any hint.
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Usually PS Stix has a laser etched serial number and the number will start with PS.
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Then I’d better be relieved! ;D I assumed those marks are also subject to copy… ? But, sure, you can definitely asked Mr Smitt directly. Thanks mate!

Don't forget to do it like a man

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Post by: Damoforce on July 12, 2021, 05:17:35 PM

What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks

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Post by: backinaction on July 12, 2021, 09:01:57 PM

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What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks

The professor believes that the deck needs to flex like a spring to "give and give back" - it flexes to load the ollie and then flexes back to help you pop. That is inherently a flexier deck (aka 'soggy' to some) than some other woodshops, and much of Slap does not agree. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. It just means that it's a feel that some people like, and some don't.

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Post by: rocklobster on July 12, 2021, 10:03:00 PM

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What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks
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The professor believes that the deck needs to flex like a spring to "give and give back" - it flexes to load the ollie and then flexes back to help you pop. That is inherently a flexier deck (aka 'soggy' to some) than some other woodshops, and much of Slap does not agree. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. It just means that it's a feel that some people like, and some don't.

If PS Stix is flexi, DSM R7 boards are the opposite of that with BBS / Generator right about the middle. DSM R7 boards are unforgivingly stiff to the point of discomfort but very long lasting.

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Post by: Sativa Lung on July 12, 2021, 10:24:32 PM

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The cleaver website says made in mexico. And I think I remember Diego said in his (slam city?) interview they are made in mexico now.

Edit, found the interview:
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-diego-bucchieri/

He said, he uses one of the three biggest manus in mexico. Whichever that is.
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BBS, PS Stix or ASF / Clutch then.

Makes sense if he still has the connections, etc.

Cleaver is BBS iirc.

Quote from: Heesley on July 07, 2021, 12:02:29 PM

@rocklobster
I'm happy I'm not alone. Preduce is well-known actually and their decks are sold throughout Asia. Like mentioned before, even Europe discovered their brand a few years ago, they have retailers in Switzerland, UK, the Netherlands... so, I also guess, they must have at least good quality woods from China. One of my friends purchased two of their decks and he is really happy. He told me they confirmed China. So we can list them for now as "China" but unknown. They started 2002 or something, I guess. I also think they let their decks produce from one of the top teir woodshop there. Which of those we know can handle the fiber carbon ply? Santa Cruz is doing such things. Dwindle? No way LOL. Sure, you're right, quite difficult to track them all back. But I see a good chance. Let's try! We all love their graphics influenced by Thai culture. They are doing great. They also offer 8" width and 31.75" length and 14" WB (my friend's deck). But you mentioned "less popular woodshops in China"... but which of the less popular ones from China can deal with fiber carbon ply and epoxy resin glue at the same time ;D Excel Woodshop??? Hmmm...

Regarding Santai, they are still quite unknown but skating scene is growing fast, just to mention Bali.

(https://i.ibb.co/Tb8zCqz/Screenshot-2021-07-07-at-20-52-42.jpg)

Dwindle/DSM can do full carbon top boards in addition to the impact insert ones. Colours does them from time to time and I've seen them pop up here and there from other brands as well.

Really anyone that uses epoxy can do them. They're a standard option at most of the big Chinese mfg but not a lot of people order them because of the cost. I believe they're a few dollars more per board which obviously adds up pretty quickly, especially for something that's really kind of a gimmick.

Quote from: Damoforce on July 12, 2021, 05:17:35 PM

What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks

Best of the big manufacturers in my opinion. The wood is light and crispy but what really sets them apart are the molds. PS boards tend to be mellower than BBS or clutch (especially in the tail) which makes them very easy to skate and a blessing for old man legs. As has been stated, they have more flex than other manufacturers which some people have trouble adjusting to, but once you're used to it it's great. The only real negative I've found is durability. They do razor tail and wear out a little faster but its not a huge issue for me. If you're broke and want something that's going to last forever than you're better off looking for something like south central, otherwise I wholeheartedly approve of them. Just be aware they seem to have more molds and shapes than any other woodshop, so I'd definitely suggest checking them out in person to find one you like.

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Post by: burm on July 12, 2021, 11:06:06 PM

After skating a PS Stix made Send Help (very full shape like FA/Hockey but mellow) the current FA I have feels a bit too stiff, like it hurts my (old man) feet to stomp down tricks and I feel like I would prefer a little flex overall. It has also kept it’s stiffness suprisingly well and I assume this would be preferred by many people, I’m just kind of low-impact. Will try to grab a PS next time, I was looking at an 8.3 Quasi in the shop and it felt very thin and light in the hand. But then the Polar P2 looks interesting for a big nose fan as well…

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Post by: Heesley on July 13, 2021, 02:07:20 AM

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What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks
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Best of the big manufacturers in my opinion. The wood is light and crispy but what really sets them apart are the molds. PS boards tend to be mellower than BBS or clutch (especially in the tail) which makes them very easy to skate and a blessing for old man legs. As has been stated, they have more flex than other manufacturers which some people have trouble adjusting to, but once you're used to it it's great. The only real negative I've found is durability. They do razor tail and wear out a little faster but its not a huge issue for me. If you're broke and want something that's going to last forever than you're better off looking for something like south central, otherwise I wholeheartedly approve of them. Just be aware they seem to have more molds and shapes than any other woodshop, so I'd definitely suggest checking them out in person to find one you like.

Recently I heard ppl around me and also as to find as reviews online saying, PS Stix board last longer than usual. I had to give it a try and purchased a new Quasi (and I can herewith confirm by first look (and not feel) it‘s slightly mellower and tail looks really „classic“). But unfortunately weather here is so crap, nobody‘s out there. Rain all over almost every f*** day. Couldn‘t test and approve it so far. However, first impression is „quality“!

Regarding durability looks like they did something that ppl so far confirm in their reviews what makes me wonder. I think sth changed, wood alongside the edges might not crack or chip that easily anymore (depends on what you do with your board, I guess). We‘ll see…

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 13, 2021, 01:30:37 PM

PS Stix decks are fine. I just find the measurements of the Professer very confusing. That's not how you get the real length of the deck.

Let's say I want a 31.7 length, what would the measurements for that be, in PS Stix style?

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Post by: Firebert on July 13, 2021, 02:38:05 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on July 13, 2021, 01:30:37 PM

PS Stix decks are fine. I just find the measurements of the Professer very confusing. That's not how you get the real length of the deck.

Let's say I want a 31.7 length, what would the measurements for that be, in PS Stix style?

32.125 - as for the measurements, I think the professor's theory of measuring length is the most accurate - if you cut your grip to 31.7, you wouldn't be able to cover the top of your board.

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 13, 2021, 11:50:24 PM

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PS Stix decks are fine. I just find the measurements of the Professer very confusing. That's not how you get the real length of the deck.

Let's say I want a 31.7 length, what would the measurements for that be, in PS Stix style?
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32.125 - as for the measurements, I think the professor's theory of measuring length is the most accurate - if you cut your grip to 31.7, you wouldn't be able to cover the top of your board.

Okay, yeah that makes sense.
So, minus 0.4 for all PS Stix decks, and I know the length in BBS style?

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Post by: Sativa Lung on July 14, 2021, 03:14:05 AM

Quote from: burm on July 12, 2021, 11:06:06 PM

After skating a PS Stix made Send Help (very full shape like FA/Hockey but mellow) the current FA I have feels a bit too stiff, like it hurts my (old man) feet to stomp down tricks and I feel like I would prefer a little flex overall. It has also kept it’s stiffness suprisingly well and I assume this would be preferred by many people, I’m just kind of low-impact. Will try to grab a PS next time, I was looking at an 8.3 Quasi in the shop and it felt very thin and light in the hand. But then the Polar P2 looks interesting for a big nose fan as well…

They're the best for old man skating. I pretty much only skate flat and curbs and they're great for that. They also have such a crazy array of shapes and molds that you should be able to find one that fits.

The Quasi square shape is probably the most popular and a bunch of other companies use it too. I've had snack, gx1000, doomsayers, scumco, strangelove, and probably a few others I'm forgetting that are the same mold and either the same shape or just very slightly tweaked. They also have a really nice flat mold that toy machine uses if you want something that feels like a 90s popsicle (albeit with a longer wb). If you're in the US and want to try a couple different shapes I'm selling a bunch of my lightly used boards. Most of the PS are 8.25 but there's a couple 8.37 as well. Shoot me a PM if you're interested or if you have any questions about PS boards, I'm not an expert or anything but I've tried a lot of them so I might be able to help.

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Post by: Damoforce on July 14, 2021, 04:46:32 AM

To everyone who replied about PS Stix, thank you! Some good food for thought. Especially about the old man stuff haha. I just finished a Hockey, not sure if was PS but like some said, it did razor quicker than say a Real. But I did like the shape and fell even though it was pretty steep for what I usually enjoyed.

Might have a look into some PS squarer boards

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Post by: burm on July 14, 2021, 11:07:55 AM

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After skating a PS Stix made Send Help (very full shape like FA/Hockey but mellow) the current FA I have feels a bit too stiff, like it hurts my (old man) feet to stomp down tricks and I feel like I would prefer a little flex overall. It has also kept it’s stiffness suprisingly well and I assume this would be preferred by many people, I’m just kind of low-impact. Will try to grab a PS next time, I was looking at an 8.3 Quasi in the shop and it felt very thin and light in the hand. But then the Polar P2 looks interesting for a big nose fan as well…
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They're the best for old man skating. I pretty much only skate flat and curbs and they're great for that. They also have such a crazy array of shapes and molds that you should be able to find one that fits.

The Quasi square shape is probably the most popular and a bunch of other companies use it too. I've had snack, gx1000, doomsayers, scumco, strangelove, and probably a few others I'm forgetting that are the same mold and either the same shape or just very slightly tweaked. They also have a really nice flat mold that toy machine uses if you want something that feels like a 90s popsicle (albeit with a longer wb). If you're in the US and want to try a couple different shapes I'm selling a bunch of my lightly used boards. Most of the PS are 8.25 but there's a couple 8.37 as well. Shoot me a PM if you're interested or if you have any questions about PS boards, I'm not an expert or anything but I've tried a lot of them so I might be able to help.

Thank you kindly for the offer, but I’m in northern europe. I’ll need to have a look at what they have in the shops, at least Quasi is very popular here and shouldn’t be hard to find.

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Post by: chris. on July 14, 2021, 05:07:43 PM

I love that Seein The Sights deck from Snack but never bought one because they are PS. You guys are very convincing though.

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Post by: saltusnaut on July 15, 2021, 04:15:04 AM

can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.

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Post by: Murge on July 15, 2021, 08:05:24 AM

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can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.

AWS are pretty similar

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Post by: al_cvbrera on July 15, 2021, 08:43:55 AM

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What are people's feelings about PS Stix atm? I know in the past people have said they are quite soggy after time. But the professor was on the Nine Club and is knowledge intrigues me. I thought with his know how and exposure in the scene, he'd be pumping out solid decks
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The professor believes that the deck needs to flex like a spring to "give and give back" - it flexes to load the ollie and then flexes back to help you pop. That is inherently a flexier deck (aka 'soggy' to some) than some other woodshops, and much of Slap does not agree. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. It just means that it's a feel that some people like, and some don't.
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If PS Stix is flexi, DSM R7 boards are the opposite of that with BBS / Generator right about the middle. DSM R7 boards are unforgivingly stiff to the point of discomfort but very long lasting.

This is a very accurate description. PS Stix are in fact flexy, the WKND board I tried can attest to that, which was kind of disappointing because although a flexy deck doesn't always mean its a cheap deck, which the WKND deck obviously wasn't, flexy decks just aren't for me. DSM R7 decks are pretty stiff, but not uncomfortable I'd say. But i guess it depends on who is riding it to decide if its uncomfy or not. Madness decks from Dwindle are solid. BBS/Generator has made some of my favorite decks that I have ridden.

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Post by: saltusnaut on July 17, 2021, 07:58:54 AM

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can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.
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AWS are pretty similar

are they as steep as FA?

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Post by: rocklobster on July 17, 2021, 09:03:14 AM

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can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.
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AWS are pretty similar
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are they as steep as FA?

FA is way steeper

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Post by: pointandclick on July 17, 2021, 10:04:02 AM

Quote from: saltusnaut on July 15, 2021, 04:15:04 AM

can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.

define shortish: sub 14.25 or sub 14.38?

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Post by: saltusnaut on July 17, 2021, 12:24:37 PM

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can you guys give me a recommendation for decks with steep kicks and shortish wheelbase other than FA/hockey.
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define shortish: sub 14.25 or sub 14.38?

sub 14.25 wb
as steep as fa/hockey dont want anything less steep. maybe if the tail is shorter so i get a comparable angle when popping

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Post by: ThrashGnar on July 17, 2021, 12:52:21 PM

I can add a few / update:

Control -
Rave (everywhere)
Poetic Collective (USA)
Wayward Worldwide (everywhere) — <Snowy’s company from PWBC, not the same as Wayward Wheels>

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Post by: TwisT on July 18, 2021, 09:04:42 AM

Any guesses as to what shop this is?

Number 2 stamp on the top. Made in the US. Maybe one the smaller shops?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0264/0117/7648/products/C2-S1DeckTopDone_720x.png?v=1602532840)

https://wholesaleskateboard.com/collections/blank-skateboard-decks

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Post by: moonordie on July 18, 2021, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: TwisT on July 18, 2021, 09:04:42 AM

Any guesses as to what shop this is?

Number 2 stamp on the top. Made in the US. Maybe one the smaller shops?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0264/0117/7648/products/C2-S1DeckTopDone_720x.png?v=1602532840)

https://wholesaleskateboard.com/collections/blank-skateboard-decks

American made from Asia. I'm confused.

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Post by: TwisT on July 18, 2021, 11:43:08 AM

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Any guesses as to what shop this is?

Number 2 stamp on the top. Made in the US. Maybe one the smaller shops?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0264/0117/7648/products/C2-S1DeckTopDone_720x.png?v=1602532840)

https://wholesaleskateboard.com/collections/blank-skateboard-decks
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American made from Asia. I'm confused.

Their Asian decks say imported on the listing. Going by the pictures their Asia decks are have the size stamped on the top instead of a number.

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Post by: TwisT on July 18, 2021, 08:17:18 PM

Add em to the list!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMAJ_i1DNw8/?utm_medium=copy_link

American Gear Co Utah, apparently makes snowboards skinboards, skis, arcade cabinets and decks.

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 19, 2021, 11:41:02 AM

Quote from: TwisT on July 18, 2021, 08:17:18 PM

Add em to the list!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMAJ_i1DNw8/?utm_medium=copy_link

American Gear Co Utah, apparently makes snowboards skinboards, skis, arcade cabinets and decks.

"All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi.."

Not gonna lie, the one in the middle is sick.

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Post by: moonordie on July 19, 2021, 11:45:56 AM

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Add em to the list!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMAJ_i1DNw8/?utm_medium=copy_link

American Gear Co Utah, apparently makes snowboards skinboards, skis, arcade cabinets and decks.
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"All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi.."

Not gonna lie, the one in the middle is sick.

Was going to say the same, also the top one looks good

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Post by: OldCandy on July 20, 2021, 09:11:51 PM

why the fuck is this not pinned

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Post by: rocklobster on July 20, 2021, 09:18:22 PM

Quote from: OldCandy on July 20, 2021, 09:11:51 PM

why the fuck is this not pinned

At the moment it gets refreshed yearly, there is a 2019 and 2020 thread. Also the list is constantly updated.

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Post by: TwisT on July 20, 2021, 09:26:19 PM

Empire mfg in Illinois
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNtTviGFQ8Y/?utm_medium=copy_link

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Post by: LE_rik on July 21, 2021, 08:22:58 AM

Hey all and Thank You for all the information given in this post.

I just got a Giorgi Skate Mental Deck - I somehow expected it from BBS but it does not have the sticker I remeber from my last FA. No made in Mexico or something like that.
It has a blue little sticker with the 8.5 width and a Stamp in the wood with 9 0. Anyone who recognizes the current woodshop? In the list it's PS and Clutch.

Thanks, Erik

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Post by: TheLowerBack on July 21, 2021, 09:46:55 AM

Quote from: LE_rik on July 21, 2021, 08:22:58 AM

Hey all and Thank You for all the information given in this post.

I just got a Giorgi Skate Mental Deck - I somehow expected it from BBS but it does not have the sticker I remeber from my last FA. No made in Mexico or something like that.
It has a blue little sticker with the 8.5 width and a Stamp in the wood with 9 0. Anyone who recognizes the current woodshop? In the list it's PS and Clutch.

Thanks, Erik

Sounds like Clutch. Their O shape is a little more squared

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Post by: hartt3 on July 21, 2021, 10:25:49 AM

scumco mellow concave seems to be friendly to my aging knees, anyone have similar recommendations so i can get some variety in my life

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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on July 21, 2021, 10:31:15 AM

Does anyone know if the Habitat Charlie Harper decks are BBS or something else? The sticker says made in Mexico, but it just has a single dot in the wood, not a Habitat etching.

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Post by: Firebert on July 21, 2021, 11:19:35 AM

Quote from: hartt3 on July 21, 2021, 10:25:49 AM

scumco mellow concave seems to be friendly to my aging knees, anyone have similar recommendations so i can get some variety in my life

toy machine mellow

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Post by: hartt3 on July 21, 2021, 05:19:21 PM

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scumco mellow concave seems to be friendly to my aging knees, anyone have similar recommendations so i can get some variety in my life
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toy machine mellow

gonna have to try tht thanks

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Post by: Kevve on July 23, 2021, 07:26:45 AM

I've done some more lurkin and found the measurements of the gx1000 8.75s very tempting. Their site says: 8.75" x 32.625" WB 14.5".

My current Polar from BBS IS 9 x 32.25". What is the length on the gx1000 deck equivalent to in BBS length?

I've heard BBS & psstix measure their boards in diffrent ways, i need some extra length on the Nose to be sure my foot doesnt come off.

Also someone know how the kicks are on a gx1000 8.75?

Prefer mellow kicks, steep ones make the deck feel so short

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Post by: Pennybabie on July 23, 2021, 01:37:13 PM

is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.

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Post by: LewFarrell on July 24, 2021, 03:59:48 AM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 23, 2021, 01:37:13 PM

is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.

What manufacturers are your searching for?

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?

A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.

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Post by: LewFarrell on July 24, 2021, 04:46:43 AM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.

Baker and DGK both pressed at BBS make an 8.25/31.875/14.25 and Traffic makes an 8.25/31.75/14.25 but they're likely on Clutch (also Mexican) wood now.

Toy Machine seems to be a mixed bag these days. Unless you have it in hand it could be hard to tell the woodshop. If you're ordering direct I'd hit them up on IG or through their site and ask about the board you're interested in specifically.

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Post by: Pennybabie on July 24, 2021, 09:40:16 AM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.
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Baker and DGK both pressed at BBS make an 8.25/31.875/14.25 and Traffic makes an 8.25/31.75/14.25 but they're likely on Clutch (also Mexican) wood now.

Toy Machine seems to be a mixed bag these days. Unless you have it in hand it could be hard to tell the woodshop. If you're ordering direct I'd hit them up on IG or through their site and ask about the board you're interested in specifically.

Alright just contacted them hopefully it's some decent wood ill let you guys know if they reply back thanks! :D

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 24, 2021, 12:06:41 PM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.
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Baker and DGK both pressed at BBS make an 8.25/31.875/14.25 and Traffic makes an 8.25/31.75/14.25 but they're likely on Clutch (also Mexican) wood now.

Toy Machine seems to be a mixed bag these days. Unless you have it in hand it could be hard to tell the woodshop. If you're ordering direct I'd hit them up on IG or through their site and ask about the board you're interested in specifically.
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Alright just contacted them hopefully it's some decent wood ill let you guys know if they reply back thanks! :D

Polar, 917 and Cleaver also have decks with similar specs if you are still looking.

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Post by: moonordie on July 24, 2021, 12:47:38 PM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 24, 2021, 04:15:47 AM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.

If you want good wood don't get Toy Machine.

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Post by: Woodshop on July 25, 2021, 03:14:38 AM

Quote from: HugeBodBoyle on July 21, 2021, 10:31:15 AM

Does anyone know if the Habitat Charlie Harper decks are BBS or something else? The sticker says made in Mexico, but it just has a single dot in the wood, not a Habitat etching.

Process of deduction = most likely BBS as they have the dot in the middle of the front bolts, not PS Stix which always has the serial number, not Clutch as they usually have the stamped letter and number.

Also going by the previous boards I have seen from Habitat / Alien Workshop, I would say BBS almost a certainty.

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Post by: Pennybabie on July 25, 2021, 10:04:43 AM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.
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Baker and DGK both pressed at BBS make an 8.25/31.875/14.25 and Traffic makes an 8.25/31.75/14.25 but they're likely on Clutch (also Mexican) wood now.

Toy Machine seems to be a mixed bag these days. Unless you have it in hand it could be hard to tell the woodshop. If you're ordering direct I'd hit them up on IG or through their site and ask about the board you're interested in specifically.
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Alright just contacted them hopefully it's some decent wood ill let you guys know if they reply back thanks! :D
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Polar, 917 and Cleaver also have decks with similar specs if you are still looking.

I just had a look on polar love the selection I'll be buying a bunch thanks! ;D

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Post by: moonordie on July 25, 2021, 10:41:01 AM

I want to try Cleaver so bad

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 25, 2021, 11:41:14 AM

Quote from: moonordie on July 25, 2021, 10:41:01 AM

I want to try Cleaver so bad

Have you tried to hit the butcher up on insta?
I think he can work something out for you. Super humble and cool guy.

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Post by: moonordie on July 25, 2021, 03:27:21 PM

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I want to try Cleaver so bad
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Have you tried to hit the butcher up on insta?
I think he can work something out for you. Super humble and cool guy.

I'll do it once I'm back in Europe next month

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Post by: Woodshop on July 26, 2021, 01:11:27 AM

Quote from: Kevve on July 23, 2021, 07:26:45 AM

I've done some more lurkin and found the measurements of the gx1000 8.75s very tempting. Their site says: 8.75" x 32.625" WB 14.5".

My current Polar from BBS IS 9 x 32.25". What is the length on the gx1000 deck equivalent to in BBS length?

I've heard BBS & psstix measure their boards in diffrent ways, i need some extra length on the Nose to be sure my foot doesnt come off.

Also someone know how the kicks are on a gx1000 8.75?

Prefer mellow kicks, steep ones make the deck feel so short

I haven't seen any in person, but the length 32.625 with a 14.5 wheelbase makes for fairly long kicks, so you should be good with that one. Curiously the 8.6 width is 33 long with 14.75 wheelbase, but that might not be wide enough for what you want, or even too long.

Even measuring some of the same woodshop boards, there are inconsistencies in measurements on paper when the boards are the same size and shape when put back to back, so maybe check with where ever you might be able to get one from first.

https://gx1000store.com/collections/products/products/og-red-scales-8-75

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Post by: Carter on July 26, 2021, 11:27:42 AM

is it just me or has the wknd 8.25 CT shape gotten flatter? I thought maybe I've been getting middle presses but got another super flat one 3rd Time in a row. (https://i.ibb.co/987znzw/IMG-9095.jpg) (https://ibb.co/987znzw)(https://i.ibb.co/4jJCvGc/IMG-9096.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4jJCvGc)

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Post by: ish_wav on July 26, 2021, 06:26:43 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 25, 2021, 03:14:38 AM

Quote from: HugeBodBoyle on July 21, 2021, 10:31:15 AM
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Does anyone know if the Habitat Charlie Harper decks are BBS or something else? The sticker says made in Mexico, but it just has a single dot in the wood, not a Habitat etching.
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Process of deduction = most likely BBS as they have the dot in the middle of the front bolts, not PS Stix which always has the serial number, not Clutch as they usually have the stamped letter and number.

Also going by the previous boards I have seen from Habitat / Alien Workshop, I would say BBS almost a certainty.

Woodchuck and Prime have single dimples on the truck bolts too.

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Post by: Lloyd Braun on July 26, 2021, 06:35:36 PM

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Hey all and Thank You for all the information given in this post.

I just got a Giorgi Skate Mental Deck - I somehow expected it from BBS but it does not have the sticker I remeber from my last FA. No made in Mexico or something like that.
It has a blue little sticker with the 8.5 width and a Stamp in the wood with 9 0. Anyone who recognizes the current woodshop? In the list it's PS and Clutch.

Thanks, Erik
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Sounds like Clutch. Their O shape is a little more squared

Def clutch. My buddy uses this same shape for his local brand I’ve skated around 10 of them. Look like this?

(https://i.ibb.co/rQNPRVB/8-B601-A20-0-A06-4-EDD-BBA7-9998-ABEAB381.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rQNPRVB)

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Post by: Woodshop on July 27, 2021, 04:16:13 AM

Quote from: ish_wav on July 26, 2021, 06:26:43 PM

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Does anyone know if the Habitat Charlie Harper decks are BBS or something else? The sticker says made in Mexico, but it just has a single dot in the wood, not a Habitat etching.
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Process of deduction = most likely BBS as they have the dot in the middle of the front bolts, not PS Stix which always has the serial number, not Clutch as they usually have the stamped letter and number.

Also going by the previous boards I have seen from Habitat / Alien Workshop, I would say BBS almost a certainty.
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Woodchuck and Prime have single dimples on the truck bolts too.

"The sticker says made in Mexico"

But as you said, there are quite a few other woodshops that have similar markings, so definitely worth checking other things like concave and feel of the board, or as has been said and done, contacting the supplier and asking where their boards come from.

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Post by: rocklobster on July 27, 2021, 10:03:32 AM

Got my hands on some of the new Flip boards (team / pro models) and they are Clutch with the K stamped into the top truck holes.

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Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 27, 2021, 10:27:52 AM

hey,

anybody know what woodshop Castle uses? The sell for FA/Hockey/Baker/Carpet/BBS-prices around my place...

Thanks in advance!

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Post by: LebowskisRug on July 27, 2021, 10:42:28 AM

Anyone have info on the WB measurements for Alltimers 8.25 and 8.125? I assume they are the standard generic BBS shapes that many brands use but cannot find a measurement anywhere online. Specifically looking at the newer Zered 8.25

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Post by: creep3000 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Anybody have and idea where chocolate and girl boards are made currently?

Are they any good? Had one long time ago. And it was like plastic.

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Post by: theloniousmonk on July 27, 2021, 11:13:48 AM

Quote from: creep3000 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Anybody have and idea where chocolate and girl boards are made currently?

Are they any good? Had one long time ago. And it was like plastic.

I have the Jeron Wilson 8.25 that was produced by ps stix. It’s not the measurements that the shapes states. The tail is 6.5. It’s in that ps stix mellow concave and I love it.

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Post by: Deekay on July 27, 2021, 12:21:13 PM

Quote from: creep3000 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Anybody have and idea where chocolate and girl boards are made currently?

Are they any good? Had one long time ago. And it was like plastic.

I believe they are Dalian Huahong (China). They changed factory/wood about 2-3 years back and I've heard good things about the updated product (although I liked the old as well, but they broke a little too easily).

If you search around a little on the messageboard, there's some talk about em.

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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 27, 2021, 12:37:15 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on July 27, 2021, 10:42:28 AM

Anyone have info on the WB measurements for Alltimers 8.25 and 8.125? I assume they are the standard generic BBS shapes that many brands use but cannot find a measurement anywhere online. Specifically looking at the newer Zered 8.25

Check the skatedeluxe website. They usually have all the specs online. From the top of my head I would guess the wheelbase would be 14.25 for both. Not sure tho

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Post by: Woodshop on July 27, 2021, 04:27:02 PM

Quote from: l1ll1ll1 on July 27, 2021, 10:27:52 AM

hey,

anybody know what woodshop Castle uses? The sell for FA/Hockey/Baker/Carpet/BBS-prices around my place...

Thanks in advance!

Castle uses Prime for their wood.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPWUIa_pmg7/

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Anyone have info on the WB measurements for Alltimers 8.25 and 8.125? I assume they are the standard generic BBS shapes that many brands use but cannot find a measurement anywhere online. Specifically looking at the newer Zered 8.25
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Check the skatedeluxe website. They usually have all the specs online. From the top of my head I would guess the wheelbase would be 14.25 for both. Not sure tho

Yes the Alltimers 8.25 that I had was 14.25 wb.

They are as said pretty much the standard BBS size and shapes, good boards too.

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Post by: moonordie on July 27, 2021, 05:08:05 PM

Quote from: creep3000 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

Anybody have and idea where chocolate and girl boards are made currently?

Are they any good? Had one long time ago. And it was like plastic.

They're like a little better plastic but still meh

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Post by: rocklobster on July 27, 2021, 06:12:38 PM

Quote from: Deekay on July 27, 2021, 12:21:13 PM

Quote from: creep3000 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:22 AM
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Anybody have and idea where chocolate and girl boards are made currently?

Are they any good? Had one long time ago. And it was like plastic.
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I believe they are Dalian Huahong (China). They changed factory/wood about 2-3 years back and I've heard good things about the updated product (although I liked the old as well, but they broke a little too easily).

If you search around a little on the messageboard, there's some talk about em.

Limited edition boards (Jeron Wilson BLM, Carroll 93 reissue) are PS Stix

Pro boards are all done in China with the laser top markings. Late 2020 stuff and beyond is quality stuff, way better than the pre-2019 stock. My friend rides Crail boards exclusively and the stuff from early 2020 were piss poor, soggy in a matter of days and he snapped 1 cleanly skating flat on day 1.

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Post by: TheLowerBack on July 27, 2021, 11:26:36 PM

Quote from: l1ll1ll1 on July 27, 2021, 10:27:52 AM

hey,

anybody know what woodshop Castle uses? The sell for FA/Hockey/Baker/Carpet/BBS-prices around my place...

Thanks in advance!

It’s a bummer that anyone still gives a fuck about Daryl Angel

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Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 28, 2021, 02:02:12 AM

Quote from: TheLowerBack on July 27, 2021, 11:26:36 PM

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hey,

anybody know what woodshop Castle uses? The sell for FA/Hockey/Baker/Carpet/BBS-prices around my place...

Thanks in advance!
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It’s a bummer that anyone still gives a fuck about Daryl Angel

hm, actually dont know who that is... also didnt know anything about castle, just saw their boards and dimensions + graphics looked ok/interesting to me, but couldn't check one out in person.

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Post by: Woodshop on July 28, 2021, 07:40:59 AM

Quote from: Carter on July 26, 2021, 11:27:42 AM

is it just me or has the wknd 8.25 CT shape gotten flatter? I thought maybe I've been getting middle presses but got another super flat one 3rd Time in a row. (https://i.ibb.co/987znzw/IMG-9095.jpg) (https://ibb.co/987znzw)(https://i.ibb.co/4jJCvGc/IMG-9096.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4jJCvGc)

I believe others who are fans of PS Stix have said that there are varying molds for their boards, so although it is probably known by someone, chances are it might not be so widely known unless advertised, so some will be flatter (as per a couple of brands I have) and some will be steeper (one that comes to mind was Quasi which always seemed way steeper when I stood on them).

Maybe not just the place in the stack which could come into it, but in the same way some other woodshops like BBS would do, who also have steeper molds (FA / Hockey) and more mellow molds (Baker).

@Buttfart Rapedick would be the ideal person to have provide more info on this, if known, or even hit up the WKND instagram and ask them (which may or may not get much back) but always worth a try.

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Post by: LebowskisRug on July 28, 2021, 10:19:06 AM

I had that with a Quasi 8.25 once- it wasn't the proto shape, but it didn't match the other pro model Quasi 8.25 of the same dims. Was oddly flat in the nose compared to normal.

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Post by: ManimalChin on July 28, 2021, 06:21:52 PM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 24, 2021, 04:15:47 AM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
[close]

What manufacturers are your searching for?
[close]

A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.

Length of that board would be closer to 32.2 inches. Length should honestly be the last thing you're worried about if you have specific wheelbase, nose and tail in mind.

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Post by: Woodshop on July 28, 2021, 09:29:38 PM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.
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Length of that board would be closer to 32.2 inches. Length should honestly be the last thing you're worried about if you have specific wheelbase, nose and tail in mind.

I thought that too, when I added up those figures (wheelbase, nose and tail) it would definitely be over 32" long.

Even between some boards with listed measurements, there are going to be inconsistencies, eg two in particular I checked yesterday, the 32.0 BBS is significantly longer than the 32.25 PS Stix, so it is on my list of things to do, go over a few boards of known dimensions and measure those.

As has also been said before which applies to different woodshops too, the main difference in length comes from laying the tape measure flat through the concave (32.5 or so long on the BBS) compared to keeping it tight from end to end (closer to 32.0 even) but you cannot really mess up or change the wheelbase, nose or tail measurements in that way, which as said, the overall length should be the last thing on the list, if at all.

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Post by: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

Do you guys have any bad experience, with Clutch/ASF because I am tempted to to try an Isle or a Magenta Deck.
I riding so long on BBS-Decks, that I am kinda afraid to going through a deck much faster than usual.

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Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 29, 2021, 01:27:45 AM

Quote from: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

Do you guys have any bad experience, with Clutch/ASF because I am tempted to to try an Isle or a Magenta Deck.
I riding so long on BBS-Decks, that I am kinda afraid to going through a deck much faster than usual.

Tried one 8"-deck from them that got pressure cracks after two sessions, didn't care for it, didn't care for it at all.

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Post by: Pennybabie on July 29, 2021, 10:22:46 AM

Question if higher trucks give higher pop how is Yuto Horigome able to fly through the air with such low trucks?

Doss him being a small guy have something to do with this?

https://i.imgur.com/oMOkpeu.jpg

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Post by: Frank and Fred on July 29, 2021, 10:28:51 AM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 29, 2021, 10:22:46 AM

Question if higher trucks give higher pop how is Yuto Horigome able to fly through the air with such low trucks?

Because he listens to his own sense of inner timing and not that of "Professor" Schmitt.

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Post by: FatGuy92 on July 29, 2021, 01:43:28 PM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 29, 2021, 10:22:46 AM

Question if higher trucks give higher pop how is Yuto Horigome able to fly through the air with such low trucks?

Doss him being a small guy have something to do with this?

https://i.imgur.com/oMOkpeu.jpg

Same can be asked about Brandon Westgate and all the pop monsters skating low ventures 20+ years ago. There’s definitely more at play than just truck height

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Post by: Woodshop on July 29, 2021, 04:51:01 PM

Quote from: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

Do you guys have any bad experience, with Clutch/ASF because I am tempted to to try an Isle or a Magenta Deck.
I riding so long on BBS-Decks, that I am kinda afraid to going through a deck much faster than usual.

Two things:

From the last lot of Magenta and Isle I saw they were still BBS / Generator, but it could be different in different parts of the world. I would be keen to hear if anyone has seen either of those two brands on Clutch wood and where.

Clutch / ASF is about the closest in feel to BBS on some boards I have skated and they hold up just as well overall, from the guys who have skated them that I know. The pricepoint wood was a little softer, but it still lasted well enough too.

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Post by: Xen on July 29, 2021, 05:49:19 PM

Quote from: Pennybabie on July 29, 2021, 10:22:46 AM

Question if higher trucks give higher pop how is Yuto Horigome able to fly through the air with such low trucks?

Doss him being a small guy have something to do with this?

https://i.imgur.com/oMOkpeu.jpg

You either have pop or you don't. Truck height won't factore in that much...Tiago, Hayes...they'd pop with anything.

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Post by: rocklobster on July 29, 2021, 07:39:40 PM

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Question if higher trucks give higher pop how is Yuto Horigome able to fly through the air with such low trucks?

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Because he listens to his own sense of inner timing and not that of "Professor" Schmitt.

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Post by: GBLange on July 30, 2021, 02:52:25 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 28, 2021, 09:29:38 PM

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is it ok to ask for assistance in this post? I'm looking for a new deck from two specific manufactures but I'm having a tough time searching.
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What manufacturers are your searching for?
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A BBS, PS stix or good quality Mexican board with measurements like this or slightly smaller.

Deck size 31.75

Width 8.25

Wheel base 14.25

Nose 7

Tail 6.75

I'm also looking for more information on this board https://toymachine.com/sect-eye-blue-7-88.html a deck like this would be ideal but I'm not sure who it's manufactured by.
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Length of that board would be closer to 32.2 inches. Length should honestly be the last thing you're worried about if you have specific wheelbase, nose and tail in mind.
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I thought that too, when I added up those figures (wheelbase, nose and tail) it would definitely be over 32" long.

Even between some boards with listed measurements, there are going to be inconsistencies, eg two in particular I checked yesterday, the 32.0 BBS is significantly longer than the 32.25 PS Stix, so it is on my list of things to do, go over a few boards of known dimensions and measure those.

As has also been said before which applies to different woodshops too, the main difference in length comes from laying the tape measure flat through the concave (32.5 or so long on the BBS) compared to keeping it tight from end to end (closer to 32.0 even) but you cannot really mess up or change the wheelbase, nose or tail measurements in that way, which as said, the overall length should be the last thing on the list, if at all.

i was curious and did the math too 🤓

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Post by: Woodshop on July 30, 2021, 05:27:52 AM

A post to share:

Woodshop discrepancies

I had been thinking about this for a while, but needed to have more than one deck of each, as well as the same or very closely similar dimensions, so on top of that, here are three decks each from PS Stix (left) and BBS (right) all for the same brand (Element) to compare, measure and see what differences, as noted there are.

As per the tops, the PS Stix is 8.375 x 32.25 and the BBS is 8.25 x 32.25 both with 14.25 wheelbase and very similar length nose and tails. The PS Stix is significantly shorter than the BBS overall, mostly in the tail (which is why I stopped riding them) and curiously not being as wide, both being almost the same, even though 8.375 should be wider than 8.25 but the PS Stix also tapers a lot more from the front down to just over 8.125 at the back, with a stubby squared off tail, whereas the BBS keeps the 8.25 width right through the boards with rounder kicks.

The other interesting thing to note, even though both seem to be much the same angle in the tails and overall concave, all the PS Stix wood appear much steeper in the nose, as per the pics, which I could feel when I stood on them too.

PS Stix are more the traditional mold, with the kicks starting with a definite line across the boards and a straight face on the kicks, so they are flatter with no side to side concave, compared to BBS which have the "spoon concave" in the kicks, no definite line across the deck which makes the boards a little more mellow feeling in the area just after the bolts, as well as holding your foot on the board just a little better too, with side to side concave in the same way that the middle of the board does.

I have skated a lot of both PS Stix and BBS boards over the years, so even though my favourite is BBS nowdays, there is nothing wrong with PS Stix as a good woodshop. Like anything, there will always be those who prefer one more so than the other. This is not at all about how the board feels to ride or how long they last either, just about the measurements and concave for now.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7z34oF7_l/

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Post by: jrb32 on July 30, 2021, 07:46:56 AM

Anyone have an update on what is going on with primitive and their wood shop issues? Hoping for new boards soon 🤞🏼

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Post by: Woodshop on July 31, 2021, 04:03:11 AM

Quote from: jrb32 on July 30, 2021, 07:46:56 AM

Anyone have an update on what is going on with primitive and their wood shop issues? Hoping for new boards soon

All the recent boards I had seen had "Made in China" on them, so from an unknown woodshop. Prior to that, they were BBS with "Made in Mexico" on them.

Others had made comments saying team riders were not so stoked on the new "Made in China" wood, but one guy who had skated one said it held up ok, so I guess it is more down to personal preference.

Either way, I would think it safer to stand on them or buy in person rather than online if you are used to a certain concave and get something else.

Nothing besides the "team boards" out for a while, but there is a new colab coming out soon enough, so I guess there might be other boards coming along with those too, but don't know any more.

Quote from: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

Do you guys have any bad experience, with Clutch/ASF because I am tempted to to try an Isle or a Magenta Deck.
I riding so long on BBS-Decks, that I am kinda afraid to going through a deck much faster than usual.

I meant to say before that Passport decks also seemed like the identical concave (same presses I would imagine) as Magenta, and also on the dark brown wood stains that they are so well known for, so you could seek out one of those.

Isle were on the Generator boards (Blanks from BBS), the difference being medium distributors would get the Generator blanks, then put on the heat transfer graphics of whatever brands they distribute, so would be more likely to change woodshop than some of the brands like Magenta who seem to get the whole deal at the BBS end of things, eg the boards are pressed, graphics put on and everything done, then shipped out from BBS.

An example of this / heat transfer graphics being applied:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRlYkdhIa28/

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Post by: j....soy..... on July 31, 2021, 07:22:03 AM

The made in Mexico ones.....I'm gonna take a wild guess and say clutch....

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Post by: ish_wav on July 31, 2021, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

Do you guys have any bad experience, with Clutch/ASF because I am tempted to to try an Isle or a Magenta Deck.
I riding so long on BBS-Decks, that I am kinda afraid to going through a deck much faster than usual.

I used to really only ride Clutch boards because they stayed stiff for a long time. But I got a 2021 deck (Roger) and I broke it in three sessions.

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Post by: moonordie on August 02, 2021, 05:01:27 PM

Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on the setup the was but here I go:
After many years I found the perfect board for me: April 8.25 which on the April website it stated as
31.92" x 8.26"

Nose - 6.88"

Tail - 6.81"

WB - 14"

Thing is that I'm moving back to Europe and April boards are quite expensive there and in Prague I couldn't find any so, as you can imagine, the question is which brands offer sth similar?

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Post by: LewFarrell on August 02, 2021, 05:21:37 PM

Quote from: moonordie on August 02, 2021, 05:01:27 PM

Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on the setup the was but here I go:
After many years I found the perfect board for me: April 8.25 which on the April website it stated as
31.92" x 8.26"

Nose - 6.88"

Tail - 6.81"

WB - 14"

Thing is that I'm moving back to Europe and April boards are quite expensive there and in Prague I couldn't find any so, as you can imagine, the question is which brands offer sth similar?

Crailtap G052. Been riding them most of the year, the wood is a lot better than it used to be a few years ago too.

Stats:
Width:8.25″
Length:31.875″
Wheelbase:14″
Nose:6.875″
Tail:6.8″

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Post by: rocklobster on August 02, 2021, 06:16:38 PM

Quote from: moonordie on August 02, 2021, 05:01:27 PM

Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on the setup the was but here I go:
After many years I found the perfect board for me: April 8.25 which on the April website it stated as
31.92" x 8.26"

Nose - 6.88"

Tail - 6.81"

WB - 14"

Thing is that I'm moving back to Europe and April boards are quite expensive there and in Prague I couldn't find any so, as you can imagine, the question is which brands offer sth similar?

I only just noticed their dimensions a few days ago and those are beautiful for people who like decks longer than 31.75 and a short WB, sounds like the dimensions that would go excellent with Venture forged. The Real New R1 construction decks are probably the closest at the moment but they've been impossible to find.

April boards are more on the medium-mellow side with a full-ish (think Quasi) nose and tail. A little more flex from what I've heard which is unusual for BBS (I think) but still a solid ride.

Right now retails are facing a huge surge in demand for Yuto boards, but have plenty of stock for Shane / Diego / Team boards.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 02, 2021, 08:17:31 PM

A good length of tail on those too.

6.5 = too short / small street setup

6.75 = about right / comfortable all rounder

7.0 = too long, except for a cruiser / big board

Personal preference comes into it a lot, but a touch longer is often easier overall (and lasts longer too).

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Post by: Woodshop on August 03, 2021, 04:02:06 PM

I saw an interesting thing with regard to Deathwish boards in the latest drop - some different sizes and dimensions listed compared to their usual sizes and dimensions.

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/pages/fall-2021

There are some longer and shorter boards in 8.125, 8.25 and 8.5 just to name a few, eg

8.25 x 31.5
8.25 x 32 (14.35 wb)
8.25 x 31.75 twin tail (Neen)

I also noticed on the Uprise post, the sizes and also the BBS hologram stickers which are over the back bolts on top as per the last frame.

(https://i.ibb.co/QPWtxbP/BBS-Hologram-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9ngPD9)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSAilzApqGq/

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Post by: BALARGUE on August 04, 2021, 02:39:38 AM

Quote from: moonordie on August 02, 2021, 05:01:27 PM

Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on the setup the was but here I go:
After many years I found the perfect board for me: April 8.25 which on the April website it stated as
31.92" x 8.26"

Nose - 6.88"

Tail - 6.81"

WB - 14"

Thing is that I'm moving back to Europe and April boards are quite expensive there and in Prague I couldn't find any so, as you can imagine, the question is which brands offer sth similar?

skated the same board and it was great, specs almost perfect for me
but tail is a bit too long and it was annoying at first but fine after a few sessions
wasn't flexy, just felt like BBS

hockey 8.25 are pretty similar, but feels better to me because of the shorter tail and most probably slighty steeper nose and tail

As rocklobster said, quasi can be an option but PS stix doesn't feel as great and consistent as BBS

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Post by: burm on August 04, 2021, 03:26:57 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 03, 2021, 04:02:06 PM

I saw an interesting thing with regard to Deathwish boards in the latest drop - some different sizes and dimensions listed compared to their usual sizes and dimensions.

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/pages/fall-2021

There are some longer and shorter boards in 8.125, 8.25 and 8.5 just to name a few, eg

8.25 x 31.5
8.25 x 32 (14.35 wb)
8.25 x 31.75 twin tail (Neen)

I also noticed on the Uprise post, the sizes and also the BBS hologram stickers which are over the back bolts on top as per the last frame.

(https://i.ibb.co/QPWtxbP/BBS-Hologram-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9ngPD9)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSAilzApqGq/

Good looking shapes, I don't recall them being that phat before, but then again no one sells Deathwish around here any more.

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Post by: fs1/2cab on August 04, 2021, 10:31:26 AM

I am not sure if that is the right place to ask. Anyone heard of MOB Skateboards? Kinda big German brand but I can't find any info about the woodshop and I asked several times. Cheers pals

And no, not affiliated with MOB griptape.

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Post by: rocklobster on August 04, 2021, 10:35:25 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 03, 2021, 04:02:06 PM

I saw an interesting thing with regard to Deathwish boards in the latest drop - some different sizes and dimensions listed compared to their usual sizes and dimensions.

https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/pages/fall-2021

There are some longer and shorter boards in 8.125, 8.25 and 8.5 just to name a few, eg

8.25 x 31.5
8.25 x 32 (14.35 wb)
8.25 x 31.75 twin tail (Neen)

I also noticed on the Uprise post, the sizes and also the BBS hologram stickers which are over the back bolts on top as per the last frame.

(https://i.ibb.co/QPWtxbP/BBS-Hologram-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9ngPD9)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSAilzApqGq/

Very helpful, thanks!

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Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2021, 07:32:44 PM

That Monarch brand is from Leticia? Doesn't look like BBS tho

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Post by: TwisT on August 04, 2021, 07:38:07 PM

Quote from: moonordie on August 04, 2021, 07:32:44 PM

That Monarch brand is from Leticia? Doesn't look like BBS tho

It’s dwindling dsm

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Post by: rocklobster on August 04, 2021, 10:28:46 PM

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That Monarch brand is from Leticia? Doesn't look like BBS tho
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It’s dwindling dsm

https://monarchproject.com/products/sky-horus-blue-r7?variant=40519876018357

Bingo - standard DSM boilerplate write up, REGROWTH top marking, R7 and dimension engravings on the top truck bolt holes

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Post by: burm on August 04, 2021, 10:50:20 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on August 04, 2021, 10:28:46 PM

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That Monarch brand is from Leticia? Doesn't look like BBS tho
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It’s dwindling dsm
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https://monarchproject.com/products/sky-horus-blue-r7?variant=40519876018357

Bingo - standard DSM boilerplate write up, REGROWTH top marking, R7 and dimension engravings on the top truck bolt holes

Those are some early 2000s web developer / graphic artist graphics right there. Only thing that makes them look current is the embossing.

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Post by: GBLange on August 05, 2021, 04:04:41 AM

http://bbtskateboards.com/
(https://i.ibb.co/XSzcqnN/Screenshot-2021-08-05-19-04-11-224-com-instagram-android.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XSzcqnN)

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Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:53:45 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on August 04, 2021, 10:31:26 AM

I am not sure if that is the right place to ask. Anyone heard of MOB Skateboards? Kinda big German brand but I can't find any info about the woodshop and I asked several times. Cheers pals

And no, not affiliated with MOB griptape.

Never heard of them before, but on looking them up, they seem like they have it going on.

Nice when brands have the board sizes listed on their posts.

Not sure if you want to hit them up and ask them what wood they use now (older post PS Stix), or any other info you can add to help with them...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQMHZQXl-vs/

EDIT: This older post says they are on PS Stix

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_iIS8klXBe/

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Post by: BALARGUE on August 05, 2021, 06:15:23 AM

they have some boards from PS Stix and from a chinese woodshop if i remember correctly (considering they were advertising the PS Stix series like "not the usual origin")

most of the time the "epoxy / single press" narrative is chinese, right ?

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Post by: shawngreg on August 05, 2021, 06:26:58 AM

i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals

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Post by: rocklobster on August 05, 2021, 07:58:58 AM

Quote from: GBLange on August 05, 2021, 04:04:41 AM

http://bbtskateboards.com/
(https://i.ibb.co/XSzcqnN/Screenshot-2021-08-05-19-04-11-224-com-instagram-android.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XSzcqnN)

Think they are based out of Malaysia, or maybe the sales office is in Malaysia but they press in China. Seen some South East Asian brands use them before.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:06:36 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2021, 06:15:23 AM

they have some boards from PS Stix and from a chinese woodshop if i remember correctly (considering they were advertising the PS Stix series like "not the usual origin")

most of the time the "epoxy / single press" narrative is chinese, right ?

Yes totally.

Even one of the very old posts had Dwindle Impact boards (from 2013) so it hardly counts nowdays, but most likely current stock is from one of those other "unknown" places, but they have been around for a long, long time - over 20 years I think I recall reading.

https://www.instagram.com/p/bp7lkRo8oz/

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Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:37:59 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on August 05, 2021, 06:26:58 AM

i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals

Looking around and this came up between a few places

From a shop site for that exact deck:

Width: 8.5".
Length: 31.5".
Wheelbase: 14".

One other place, from that exact deck also Width: 8.5″. Length: 31.5″. Wheelbase: 14″.

From @off in another thread general sizes scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0

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Post by: rocklobster on August 05, 2021, 06:20:30 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:06:36 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2021, 06:15:23 AM
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they have some boards from PS Stix and from a chinese woodshop if i remember correctly (considering they were advertising the PS Stix series like "not the usual origin")

most of the time the "epoxy / single press" narrative is chinese, right ?
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Yes totally.

Even one of the very old posts had Dwindle Impact boards (from 2013) so it hardly counts nowdays, but most likely current stock is from one of those other "unknown" places, but they have been around for a long, long time - over 20 years I think I recall reading.

https://www.instagram.com/p/bp7lkRo8oz/

Interesting, I know DSM OEMs for a lot of smaller brands but this this the first time I've seen them do Impact Light on smaller brands.

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Post by: TwisT on August 05, 2021, 06:54:23 PM

That whole 8ply thing. I’ve seen 8 ply in other overseas brands. My working theory is that since they cost more the 8 ply makes them last longer. Not from breakage but just like razor tail.

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Post by: Paco Supreme on August 05, 2021, 07:54:08 PM

How wide are drkrm noses?

I’ve wanted to check out their 8.375 to maybe replace the habitat shape and there’s one I’ve had my eye on.

But I need that fat nose

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Post by: rocklobster on August 05, 2021, 09:06:32 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 05, 2021, 06:54:23 PM

That whole 8ply thing. I’ve seen 8 ply in other overseas brands. My working theory is that since they cost more the 8 ply makes them last longer. Not from breakage but just like razor tail.

Didn't realize it was 8 ply, haven't seen a Resin-8 in years.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 10:17:11 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on August 05, 2021, 09:06:32 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 05, 2021, 06:54:23 PM
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That whole 8ply thing. I’ve seen 8 ply in other overseas brands. My working theory is that since they cost more the 8 ply makes them last longer. Not from breakage but just like razor tail.
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Didn't realize it was 8 ply, haven't seen a Resin-8 in years.

I guess being from 2013, they might have changed it up or refined it a whole lot too.

We used to have so many of those come through back in the day, many of which snapped in the middle (think focus or similar landings) which the other carbon added technologies like P2 boards half stopped, but it has been a while since seeing any of those around normally. I know there are some out there from the last or second last Dwindle offering.

I also wonder if they weren't already getting a "similar product" from an unknown woodshop (maybe Excel) that replicated the same technology, as someone tagged Dwindle in that post from Mob, almost as if it was not a Dwindle endorsed product, but looked like it.

That would explain why they had it and no other smaller brands, from the use of that technology happening in multiple places, which might have received a Cease and Desist order from DSM.

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Post by: Damoforce on August 06, 2021, 03:59:58 AM

Anyone know the difference between WKND 8.25 and 8.25VA

Also, are they both full shapes GX1000 like?

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Post by: shawngreg on August 06, 2021, 06:20:21 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:37:59 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on August 05, 2021, 06:26:58 AM
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i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals
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Looking around and this came up between a few places

From a shop site for that exact deck:

Width: 8.5".
Length: 31.5".
Wheelbase: 14".

One other place, from that exact deck also Width: 8.5″. Length: 31.5″. Wheelbase: 14″.

From @off in another thread general sizes scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0

dude, awesome thank you very much. just purchased the deck bc of your post!

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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 06, 2021, 06:39:39 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on August 06, 2021, 06:20:21 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 05, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
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Quote from: shawngreg on August 05, 2021, 06:26:58 AM
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i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals
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Looking around and this came up between a few places

From a shop site for that exact deck:

Width: 8.5".
Length: 31.5".
Wheelbase: 14".

One other place, from that exact deck also Width: 8.5″. Length: 31.5″. Wheelbase: 14″.

From @off in another thread general sizes scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0
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dude, awesome thank you very much. just purchased the deck bc of your post!

Be sure to report back and let us know if that's accurate, because if so I want one too.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 06, 2021, 03:06:06 PM

Quote from: Paco Supreme on August 05, 2021, 07:54:08 PM

How wide are drkrm noses?

I’ve wanted to check out their 8.375 to maybe replace the habitat shape and there’s one I’ve had my eye on.

But I need that fat nose

Most of the regular popsicles are fairly tapered (normal) shape, same as the normal BBS / DLX shapes, from what I have seen, not the Full or stubby squared off shapes.

This one has a good top pic from Basement and that board is in stock in most Aussie shops, although OCD has weird dimensions on it, they all seem to be about this:

https://www.basementskate.com.au/darkroom-skateboard-deck-carnage-8.375/

DARKROOM - CARNAGE SKATEBOARD DECK. 8.375"

Deck width: 8.375"
Deck length: 32.125"
Wheel base: 14.375"
Tail: 6.5875"
Nose: 7.0"

OCD and Boarders both have them on sale for the next week too:

https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/darkroom-carnage-8-375-skateboard-deck

https://www.boardersonline.com.au/darkroom-carnage-8.375-skateboard-deck

Found a better close up, which is funny cause it looks a little more stubby and square in this pic than in others:

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=DRCRNGE83DK-2.jpg)

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Post by: Paco Supreme on August 06, 2021, 05:51:09 PM

Above and beyond, cheers woodshop.

Hemley in Fitzroy had it for $64 shipped so I scooped it anyway, temped to grab their 8.6 cruiser as well for that kind of price

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Post by: Woodshop on August 06, 2021, 08:58:13 PM

Quote from: Damoforce on August 06, 2021, 03:59:58 AM

Anyone know the difference between WKND 8.25 and 8.25VA

Also, are they both full shapes GX1000 like?

I haven't seen any in person and what is online (including what is on the WKND website) is confusing at best - both the 8.25 and 8.25 VA appear to be fairly wide and stubby looking / full shapes, but dimensions vary on different sites, ranging from 32.125 long, down to 31.75 or less, but with similar other dimensions, which doesn't add up.

There is also the 8.25 CT shape which is significantly shorter too, which could be confusing things - 8.25 x 31.625 with 14 wb, 6.875 nose and 6.625 tail.

From the WKND shop, their own site has pics of the boards and a chart with info on it, the VA shape showing a touch longer at 32.125 compared to the normal 8.25 at 32 even, but the other dimensions are the same 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail (which doesn't add up), but from looking around at a number of places, many of which have all manner of dimensions and quite different from the size chart, I have come to this conclusion:

Normal 8.25 (more stubby shape)

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/pachamama-christian-maalouf-8-125-8-25

8.25 VA shape (less stubby shape)

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/products/overseer-8-0-8-25va-8-5

I am happy to be corrected if anyone has actually compared them, or has more info so please share.

* Open the size chart in a new window / save it as it is hi res and will show all dimensions easily.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1014/3147/products/NEW-BOARD-SIZE-CHART-2021-6-16-01_8aedfbc4-d39f-46e4-9cf7-d6454f7706d5_600x.jpg)

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Post by: SHHHH,ITSDONE on August 07, 2021, 01:11:28 AM

...SO...What y'all think of whatever board ur riding?
Lets start giving feedback so woodshop means something, yah?(whatever ya feel)
I'll go first;
Enjoi(Dwindle) 8.375" Resin-7:
I actually think this resin thing is not a gimmick and makes board stronger.
After a month of every other day park sessions(1.5 to 3 hrs) board still stiff n poppy; down to 3rd layer in tail.
Tuff too, hit some corners with tail n nose and no chips, just dings.
Overall stoked.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 07, 2021, 02:24:08 AM

It might seem completely too deep, but I was thinking about an earlier conversation in this thread regarding the overall length and other dimensions that didn't add up.

From checking wheelbase, length of nose / tail and overall length, why hadn't someone listed here the number that relates to the measurement of the trucks in a deck.

Each truck from center holes is about 53mm, so 106mm in total, which equates to about 4.175 " so now when measuring decks, you can use that to add or subtract to get the length or other missing figures.

Eg Wheelbase 14.25, nose 7, tail 6.625 (then +4.175 trucks) = 32.05" which seems about right for this board in front of me right now.

There would still be the slight differences between individual boards from some brands, or the difference between laying the tape measure flat on the concave, vs keeping it tight across for the overall length, but this could definitely help work out some of those measurements.

The funny thing is when I apply that method to this chart from Real, the truck measurements vary a bit, 4.13 on one and 4.27 on another, so I guess it is relative and not absolute.

* I will have to go and measure my Real boards like this now and see.

(https://www.realskateboards.com/realsb/assets/img/construction-layout-fullse-decks.jpg)

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Post by: Bold on August 07, 2021, 05:08:50 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 06, 2021, 03:06:06 PM

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Found a better close up, which is funny cause it looks a little more stubby and square in this pic than in others:

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Nose and tail shapes don't always show well in photos. I think the perspective gets a bit warped due to the lens and angle and distance to the camera. Camera closer to deck = more foreshortening and worse representation of the actual shape.

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Post by: pennswood on August 07, 2021, 09:06:23 AM

@woodshop
truck hole pattern is 1.625 x 2.125
total for both trucks is 4.25

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Post by: Woodshop on August 07, 2021, 04:46:28 PM

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Found a better close up, which is funny cause it looks a little more stubby and square in this pic than in others:

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Nose and tail shapes don't always show well in photos. I think the perspective gets a bit warped due to the lens and angle and distance to the camera. Camera closer to deck = more foreshortening and worse representation of the actual shape.

Yeah totally!

Really depends on how they take the pic or what they use, as well as how they crop the pic down too. I know some of the professional setups have a fixed vertical camera position which gives some of the best pics overall, as per the studio I saw from one place with what might have been the longest distance I had seen for taking pics, but that shop always put out top notch pics.

Quote from: pennswood on August 07, 2021, 09:06:23 AM

@woodshop
truck hole pattern is 1.625 x 2.125
total for both trucks is 4.25

Thank you!

I had just used calipers on a board and trucks I had close by at the time, so thought there would be some differences, but it still just doesn't add up with some board specs, which is a bit funny really.

Measured another ten or so boards from specs alone and they vary from 3.7 up to 4.8 when taking everything else from the total length.

I know most of the boards I measure in person seem longer than specs though.

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Post by: shawngreg on August 09, 2021, 05:00:13 PM

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i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals
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Looking around and this came up between a few places

From a shop site for that exact deck:

Width: 8.5".
Length: 31.5".
Wheelbase: 14".

One other place, from that exact deck also Width: 8.5″. Length: 31.5″. Wheelbase: 14″.

From @off in another thread general sizes scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0
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dude, awesome thank you very much. just purchased the deck bc of your post!
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Be sure to report back and let us know if that's accurate, because if so I want one too.

got her today!! def a true 8.5, length is a hair over 31.5 and th wheelbase for me is actually coming in at like 13.9

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Post by: munchbox on August 09, 2021, 11:00:32 PM

@pennswood
when are you doing the next run for literally any brand? favorite wood of all time, need to re up before these scumcos die out

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Post by: Woodshop on August 10, 2021, 01:59:25 AM

Another post with some interesting information:

Board dimensions are a funny thing.

Here are four different brands, all from the same woodshop, all of which those companies list different lengths for their 8.5 wide standard shaped decks, but all are actually the exact same size and dimensions overall. Note the wheelbase is listed the same too, at 14.5 for all.

I have also included an older Baker deck beside the newer one (Baker RVCA colab), just for reference, but they are said to be 8.5 x 32, then the Black Label is said to be 8.5 x 32.38, the Element is 8.5 x 32.7 and the Generator (shop brand) deck is listed as 8.5 x 32.5 from their site.

All are actually 8.5 x 32.7 if the tape measure is held against the concave right through, or closer to 32.25 if kept tight from end to end, with a nose at about 7.2 and tail at about 6.7 but that is just rough measurements really.

The dimensions shown on the Element deck are the most accurate, but I know some companies / places prefer to measure straight across, not with the concave, which will always give a different length.

Other decks from different companies, regardless of woodshop, often have inconsistencies, which is why I find it so interesting to have a number of the same boards from various places to measure and compare, all of these being the same, as I have multiples of each.

There are ever so slight differences in concave too, but for the most part, they all are approximately the same, some slightly steeper and some slightly more mellow than others, depending on where they were in the press, being four at a time in this particular woodshop, the top being the steepest down to the fourth deck having the least concave. It can be fairly significant, as per an older post I put up.

The last pic is just an added one with a few other brands which also use the same woodshop, but I didn't have the exact same size boards from those brands to add, even though the Birdhouse and Antihero both are 14.5 wheelbase, they are listed as 8.38 wide and 32.25 long, which come in just under the length of the other ones.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/

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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 10, 2021, 05:50:32 AM

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i'm looking at an 8.5 Scumco. its the ty beall broadcast deck, but i cant find the length and wheelbase. can anyone help me out there? thanks pals
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Looking around and this came up between a few places

From a shop site for that exact deck:

Width: 8.5".
Length: 31.5".
Wheelbase: 14".

One other place, from that exact deck also Width: 8.5″. Length: 31.5″. Wheelbase: 14″.

From @off in another thread general sizes scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0
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dude, awesome thank you very much. just purchased the deck bc of your post!
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Be sure to report back and let us know if that's accurate, because if so I want one too.
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got her today!! def a true 8.5, length is a hair over 31.5 and th wheelbase for me is actually coming in at like 13.9

Oh man that's perfect! I know since they had been bouncing around to different woodshops you couldn't always count on the listed measurements but sounds like you got a winner.

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Post by: shawngreg on August 10, 2021, 08:13:51 AM

very very hyped, if i can find more decks with these dimensions i would load up. being a venture rider, this is a real treat imo

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Post by: GardenSkater77 on August 10, 2021, 06:28:43 PM

I like the cut of PS Stix decks (wide tail/nose) but the reviews here are pretty poor.

All my recent boards have been BBS and they keep their pop seemingly forever.

Are their any BBS decks with meatier tails?

For instance, Anti-hero boards seem to taper in the tail.

Any recommendations for BBS made brands that have wider tails? In the 8.6-8.8 range. Thanks.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 10, 2021, 09:31:23 PM

Quote from: GardenSkater77 on August 10, 2021, 06:28:43 PM

I like the cut of PS Stix decks (wide tail/nose) but the reviews here are pretty poor.

All my recent boards have been BBS and they keep their pop seemingly forever.

Are their any BBS decks with meatier tails?

For instance, Anti-hero boards seem to taper in the tail.

Any recommendations for BBS made brands that have wider tails? In the 8.6-8.8 range. Thanks.

The first boards that I would say are the DLX Full shape, but the only one recently was the 8.5 Full SE from Real (2 graphics) and unless you stocked up on the older ones, there seem to be minimal to zero supplies of those, only a few coming out every so often now and even less in bigger sizes, eg the Grosso 8.75 Full shape from a drop a year or two ago, which I have and it is a beast.

Thinking about others from BBS, the FA / Hockey boards are the first ones that come to mind with wide / full shapes that are still readily available, even some in bigger sizes too. They are pretty steep concave though.

https://faworldentertainment.com/products/vandals-blue?_pos=1&_sid=9154f0356

8.75" x 32.60" and 14.5" Wheelbase.

Some Alien Workshop decks seemed to be quite solid in the kicks too, not tapered at all or at least have a bit more in the bigger sizes, so that might be worth checking as well.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/spectrum-7-25-8-75

8.75 X 32.25 WB 14.25

I guess too compared to straight popsicles, there are various BBS wood brands that have shaped boards that have wider / squarer kicks, such as Polar, Uma, ATM, Scram, if I recall correctly, but I know some people are not at all keen on shaped boards.

Even the Antihero Bue Meanie 8.75 has a decent tail on the one I have, and the shape is not too weird to skate as a normal board either.

As for thoughts on PS Stix, everyone will have their own opinion on what they prefer, but I think I have heard similar personal problems from ALL the woodshops over the years, especially more recently with things seemingly rushed in getting boards back out to the market now.

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Post by: GardenSkater77 on August 11, 2021, 07:25:48 AM

Thanks @Woodshop

I have been leaning towards an Alien as I really like their cut.

I don’t flip my board anymore so I wonder if I won’t have the same issues with sogginess after 5 sessions on the PS Stix wood?

I found a BA full 8.75 at a shop in FL but they reserve boards for in store purchases due to board shortages.

It’s interesting to me that PS Stix was the number one North American brand 20 years ago and now they are ranked here behind BBS and South Central.

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Post by: TurdyBird on August 11, 2021, 04:53:35 PM

Is skate mental clutch? Think I heard Plunkett said they are. The Jake Anderson dims look tempting 8.6 X 32.2. slightly too long but has a short wheelbase

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Post by: Woodshop on August 12, 2021, 04:34:26 AM

Quote from: TurdyBird on August 11, 2021, 04:53:35 PM

Is skate mental clutch? Think I heard Plunkett said they are. The Jake Anderson dims look tempting 8.6 X 32.2. slightly too long but has a short wheelbase

Yes that was the more recent change noted for Skate Mental, though I have not seen any in person, the top pics show the boards have the same stamp and round sticker that Clutch use from SW.

Also interesting to note that the Plunkett deck is also 8.625 x 32.25 but it has 14.5 wheelbase (as I saw on a few shop sites) but the Anderson of the same other dimensions with only 14.25 wb so that might be something to check.

I noticed a couple of the 8.5 decks were different, one in the squared off shape and shorter, the other in the longer more tapered shape, so that could be the thing for those two 8.625 as well being different shapes / sizes, or it could be an error in the listing.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 13, 2021, 09:30:56 PM

Updated the main brand woodshop lists.

Also added the year established to the woodshops info list, eg. (est 1999)

Also changed the woodshop list for a couple of major brands that might be of interest to some people.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 13, 2021, 09:31:18 PM

Doing some more research and came across a tour of the PS Stix factory from 2007, so although it is fairly old, it was mentioned that they do FIVE decks at a time here.

https://skateparkoftampa.com/article/785/Paul_Schmitt's_Skateboard_Deck_Factory,_PS_Stix

The comment:

You know the plies of your skateboard deck? Well, this machine is a press that glues the separate plies together. They do five boards at a time, so that's why sometimes you get the same exact board with a little more or little less concave

(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/images/pss3.jpg)

Other places like BBS do FOUR at a time (top the steepest concave and bottom the most mellow concave), while many others (especially in China) are geared up to do ONE at a time, but they have presses that hold about eight to ten decks in each, so each individual deck is identical.

(https://www.fysboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/skateboard-mold.jpg)

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Post by: Woodshop on August 13, 2021, 09:34:44 PM

Also I find it curious that some manufacturers press boards on their back too.

I wonder if there is any difference in the pressing process or it all works the same no matter which way they operate.

(http://www.churchillmfg.com/files/FullSizeRender%20%288%29.jpg)

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Post by: cosmicgypsies on August 16, 2021, 04:37:24 AM

am I being a bit neurotic or are BBS decks a bit shitty atm? For me personally I'll average a deck a month, they're usually still skatable after that point but it's always nice to have a new one. Since March I've skated a Theories, Sour, shop deck, a blank and now a Passport. Sour held up great and my friends skating that now, the blank was pretty decent too and I passed that on, shop deck was shite. Both the Theories and Passport decks cracked, I think I got about 8 sessions out of the Theories deck and about the same from the Passport which also chipped pretty quick (skated it for maybe 2/3 weeks?) - I'm a pretty light guy at 140 and I'm not jumping down stuff, so I'm wondering if maybe BBS are still playing covid catchup or something? I've skated a lot of BBS boards in the past and had a good run with them, but the last few I've had haven't been too great.

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Post by: Murge on August 16, 2021, 05:22:52 AM

Quote from: cosmicgypsies on August 16, 2021, 04:37:24 AM

am I being a bit neurotic or are BBS decks a bit shitty atm? For me personally I'll average a deck a month, they're usually still skatable after that point but it's always nice to have a new one. Since March I've skated a Theories, Sour, shop deck, a blank and now a Passport. Sour held up great and my friends skating that now, the blank was pretty decent too and I passed that on, shop deck was shite. Both the Theories and Passport decks cracked, I think I got about 8 sessions out of the Theories deck and about the same from the Passport which also chipped pretty quick (skated it for maybe 2/3 weeks?) - I'm a pretty light guy at 140 and I'm not jumping down stuff, so I'm wondering if maybe BBS are still playing covid catchup or something? I've skated a lot of BBS boards in the past and had a good run with them, but the last few I've had haven't been too great.

I’m on a baker now. But most the BBS I’ve had lately isn’t hitting the same like somethings off. Krooked anti hero and a different baker I had sucked and splintered and chipped easy. My buddies real he skated then gave away. But I had a habitat and an few Umas and they both felt fine and a hockey. I got a AWS and I’m hoping it’s good but the current baker doing fine so I’m waiting til it’s toast

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Post by: ish_wav on August 16, 2021, 01:30:51 PM

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what’s the deal
With DOA? Been hearing a lot about them. Anyone know the wheelbase on the flat as fuck 8.25 as well as wood shop?

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Post by: Woodshop on August 16, 2021, 04:13:48 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on August 16, 2021, 01:30:51 PM

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what’s the deal
With DOA? Been hearing a lot about them. Anyone know the wheelbase on the flat as fuck 8.25 as well as wood shop?

The name in searches often doesn't come up, given people put dots between the letters, vs no gaps or the full name as below:

D.O.A. (DOA or Dead on Arrival) is on South Central wood.

Web store: https://doany.bigcartel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/dead_on_arrival_/

There is quite a bit of info from BFRD on these boards in older woodshop threads, eg this one:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108595.msg3451576#msg3451576

Also just found this thread and post, so @Fletschinger is the owner.

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I see havran around sometimes since he's a local. Don't really know him though but he rips hard. What exactly is DOA?
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It's Steve Fletch, formerly of Northern Co., who left a couple of years back to do his own solo thing.

https://www.instagram.com/dead_on_arrival_/
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Heard he’s amongst us here on slap.
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I check in from time to time. I usually don't have much to comment since most is already said. DOA is just my way of reliving my youth in skating, etc.... most won't understand it, but when someone does it's pretty cool. sorry to be a kook and bump a post for my own promo, just realized that's what I'm doing now. oops.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 16, 2021, 08:25:51 PM

I almost forgot this as well, when I went looking, which is pretty amazing to have a sticker like that.

DOA Silencer Deck 8.25”
31 3/4” Length

14.25” WB

6 7/8” Nose

6 5/8” Tail

Initially found it via google, but then found the actual shop - Relief Skate Supply.

https://reliefskatesupply.com/collections/decks/products/doa-hebert-brown-sheen-deck-8-25

Normal concave, but I recall someone else saying they were the same wheelbase.

(https://i.ibb.co/dmwspdr/DOA-deck-8-25-dimensions-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKpcsMX)

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Post by: Loki700 on August 19, 2021, 06:35:40 PM

Sticks & Stones are made in Alabama, no idea what wood shop though.

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Post by: GumOnMyGrip on August 19, 2021, 07:49:46 PM

The ATM i just bought two weeks ago is Clutch/ASF. It’s the squared off shape ( V shape?) and had the round size sticker. I know ATM transfers their own graphics and I think they just get runs of blanks from ASF.

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Post by: pointandclick on August 19, 2021, 11:10:54 PM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 19, 2021, 06:35:40 PM

Sticks & Stones are made in Alabama, no idea what wood shop though.

alabama only has south central correct?

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Post by: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:26:30 AM

I set up an Uma board yesterday. The Fark Deck 8.25.
It had a made in china sticker on it.
On the nose between the bolts there are all the measurements stamped on.
Honestly I like the feel of the wood way more than the Polar deck I had before.
Now I see Uma is on bbs now. Are they exclusively on bbs now ? What woodshop from china made there decks before ?
Im in Europe btw. Maye they haf a different shop for the euro marked.

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Post by: rocklobster on August 20, 2021, 12:33:00 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:26:30 AM

I set up an Uma board yesterday. The Fark Deck 8.25.
It had a made in china sticker on it.
On the nose between the bolts there are all the measurements stamped on.
Honestly I like the feel of the wood way more than the Polar deck I had before.
Now I see Uma is on bbs now. Are they exclusively on bbs now ? What woodshop from china made there decks before ?
Im in Europe btw. Maye they haf a different shop for the euro marked.

I doubt Uma is big enough to do separate productions for NA or EU, do you have a pic of the Made in China Sticker?

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Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 03:12:52 AM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on August 19, 2021, 07:49:46 PM

The ATM i just bought two weeks ago is Clutch/ASF. It’s the squared off shape ( V shape?) and had the round size sticker. I know ATM transfers their own graphics and I think they just get runs of blanks from ASF.

This is the sort of thing that distributors do as well. Getting the licensed brand graphics and putting them on whatever wood you have. Not saying this is an issue, so much as it is just part of the skateboard industry that often causes confusion and some issues when people or even the company says what woodshop they use (in the USA), compared to what a mid to small distributor from a different continent uses for the same brand.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRlYkdhIa28/

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Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 03:23:59 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:26:30 AM

I set up an Uma board yesterday. The Fark Deck 8.25.
It had a made in china sticker on it.
On the nose between the bolts there are all the measurements stamped on.
Honestly I like the feel of the wood way more than the Polar deck I had before.
Now I see Uma is on bbs now. Are they exclusively on bbs now ? What woodshop from china made there decks before ?
Im in Europe btw. Maye they haf a different shop for the euro marked.

Uma was always on BBS as far as I knew, as per the boards from the first runs I was able to see and stand on.

This would mean that they either outsourced the supply of the European distribution to a different woodshop, or licensed the brand to the local distro, (as per last post with a distro in a small European country doing their own heat transfers for brands on unknown boards).

Being made in China, it might be rather difficult to find out which woodshop they are using, but any other info would help, such as which country, which shop, pics of board or stickers, etc.

Of course it could also mean that the next drop could all be from China, so someone from Mesa Dist could help with this too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CO2535mFaQ-/

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Post by: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 05:15:03 AM

I'm from germany. The Board is griped already so I can't take a photo of the stamps.
It's from a german distribution called 24/7 Distribution.
When I look at that page now, the pic of the board is different (the stamps look different)
Mine looks like this. The stamps has all measurements on there, length, width, wheelbase, nose, tail.
That little sticker on the backbolts says made in China
https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210531-decks-002.jpg (https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210531-decks-002.jpg)
Gonna take a pic of the sticker when I'm home. It's somewhere in the trash.

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Post by: Loki700 on August 20, 2021, 05:43:37 AM

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Sticks & Stones are made in Alabama, no idea what wood shop though.
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alabama only has south central correct?

As far as I know. However I just found out about Regulator Distribution that makes Beer City decks here in Milwaukee supposedly. Could be another small woodshop?

Looking at S&S’s page, they appear to be in New York, so South Central is most likely.

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Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 07:01:43 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 05:15:03 AM

I'm from germany. The Board is griped already so I can't take a photo of the stamps.
It's from a german distribution called 24/7 Distribution.
When I look at that page now, the pic of the board is different (the stamps look different)
Mine looks like this. The stamps has all measurements on there, length, width, wheelbase, nose, tail.
That little sticker on the backbolts says made in China
https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210531-decks-002.jpg (https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210531-decks-002.jpg)
Gonna take a pic of the sticker when I'm home. It's somewhere in the trash.

Not a worry, re the top of the board if it is already gripped.

This is from page 12 with one I saw, which I would have said was BBS.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3591468#msg3591468

I see what you mean with the stamps being different, as per those boards in the shop with an additional line I cannot make out under the dimensions - was it a manufacturing number?

Compared to this one, similar to the ones I have seen:

https://www.247dist.com/product-images/rueckenansicht_list_upright_zoom/UMA-Landsleds/Decks/Fark_26619707580000019.jpg

The usual BBS boards for some brands have all the info on them (Element in particular), but not as many other boards, but that one had the Uma triangle, the length, width and wheelbase.

*** Also I have to say I am loving the fact that the shop puts up front and back pics of every deck I have checked on their shop site - not too many have so much detail like that, which is nice!

https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 08:36:27 AM

(https://abload.de/thumb/stickerhjj1w.jpeg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=stickerhjj1w.jpeg)
Here is the sticker
Stamps look way different.
More like this
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/
But a lill bit different in order
Fun Fact.. measurements on mine and the one on instagram are identical.. ???

Here you can see it a bit better.
Tha last line says 100% canadian maple blabla. Not a serial number.
https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210308-decks-006-1100x1100.jpg (https://www.soohotrightnow.com/app/uploads/20210308-decks-006-1100x1100.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 08:51:41 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 08:36:27 AM

Here is the sticker
Stamps look way different.
More like this
But a lill bit different in order
Fun Fact.. measurements on mine and the one on instagram are identical.. ???

Thanks for the info.

So from that I would definitely say they have sourced all boards for EU from that same factory in China that Ben DG / Canada Skate Shop got their boards from, or all new boards for everywhere, so it will be interesting to see which it is for future orders.

Definitely different as you said, but if the lower line across those boards in your local all have that line "100% Premium North American Maple" which looks like it is, then at least that question has been answered.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:01:57 PM

An extra note, the board is definitely heavier than a Killing Floor deck with almost the same shape.
I like it. After 2 sessions I can say that it takes a beating, has a snappy and solid feel and the shape is , at least for me , great. Not to tapered, not to fat.
Would love to get another one of these.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 20, 2021, 12:29:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 16, 2021, 08:25:51 PM

I almost forgot this as well, when I went looking, which is pretty amazing to have a sticker like that.

DOA Silencer Deck 8.25”
31 3/4” Length

14.25” WB

6 7/8” Nose

6 5/8” Tail

Initially found it via google, but then found the actual shop - Relief Skate Supply.

https://reliefskatesupply.com/collections/decks/products/doa-hebert-brown-sheen-deck-8-25

Normal concave, but I recall someone else saying they were the same wheelbase.

(https://i.ibb.co/dmwspdr/DOA-deck-8-25-dimensions-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKpcsMX)

Woah, that are the specs I am looking for. Like exactly..
And I love the last DOA video. Do they have a distribution in Europe/Germany?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 05:43:45 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:01:57 PM

An extra note, the board is definitely heavier than a Killing Floor deck with almost the same shape.
I like it. After 2 sessions I can say that it takes a beating, has a snappy and solid feel and the shape is , at least for me , great. Not to tapered, not to fat.
Would love to get another one of these.

How does the angle of the kicks compare to other boards you have had?

You said you had a Polar and Killing Floor (both of which are BBS) so they have a spoon shaped kick, compared to some other woodshops that have more of a straight kick on a sharper angle from the body of the deck.

Even a side on pic would be cool, but not a worry either way.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 06:07:57 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on August 20, 2021, 12:29:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 16, 2021, 08:25:51 PM
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I almost forgot this as well, when I went looking, which is pretty amazing to have a sticker like that.

DOA Silencer Deck 8.25”
31 3/4” Length

14.25” WB

6 7/8” Nose

6 5/8” Tail

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Woah, that are the specs I am looking for. Like exactly..
And I love the last DOA video. Do they have a distribution in Europe/Germany?

I think the distribution is more limited, being a small US brand with an online store and some local shops there that stock the boards. I have never seen one, or heard of them apart from on here.

On another note, those dimensions are fairly consistent throughout most 8.25 boards from doing a bit of looking, including what a few companies have in local shops in Germany, especially after looking at boards from UMA for the guy who just got one in the posts before this one, woodshop unknown.

Quite a few other big woodshops, such as PS Stix and BBS decks are those dimensions, as are quite a few boards that are listed as longer, but are not - measuring with the concave on a deck will give a 32+ length rather than straight across which will give more of a 31.8 or just under 32, as an example.

Depending on whether you can go in to shops or not can make a big difference too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 03:25:20 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 20, 2021, 05:43:45 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 20, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
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An extra note, the board is definitely heavier than a Killing Floor deck with almost the same shape.
I like it. After 2 sessions I can say that it takes a beating, has a snappy and solid feel and the shape is , at least for me , great. Not to tapered, not to fat.
Would love to get another one of these.
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How does the angle of the kicks compare to other boards you have had?

You said you had a Polar and Killing Floor (both of which are BBS) so they have a spoon shaped kick, compared to some other woodshops that have more of a straight kick on a sharper angle from the body of the deck.

Even a side on pic would be cool, but not a worry either way.

Pic 1 Tail
Pic 2 Nose
(https://abload.de/thumb/1hjjx9.jpeg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=1hjjx9.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/thumb/23vk41.jpeg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=23vk41.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/thumb/3e4kq1.jpeg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=3e4kq1.jpeg)
Left Uma, the new board is a Killing Floor, The Polar ended in the trash after snapping it. But the tail on the Polar was super tapered and a bit too long imho.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 21, 2021, 05:48:20 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 03:25:20 AM

Left Uma, the new board is a Killing Floor, The Polar ended in the trash after snapping it. But the tail on the Polar was super tapered and a bit too long imho.

Thanks again!

If I didn't know it had a Made in China sticker on it, I would have said it was BBS from those pictures.

Killing Floor 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wheelbase, so would be a fraction longer than the UMA deck going by measurements alone, so I am guessing it would be about the same?

Just checking if that Killing Floor deck has "Made in Mexico" on the sticker, or if there is any country on the warning sticker?

It does look the same as another one from CCS, so no worries there really.

(https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/B/Q/BQ36FD4-2.1621413895.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 21, 2021, 06:03:13 AM

I pulled a close up from another deck I had a picture of, also Killing Floor, BBS wood.

(https://i.ibb.co/zScsHWG/Killing-Floor-Deck-warning-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zhsd1RW)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 08:14:20 AM

All my Polar, Killing Floor decks are made in Mexico.
The polar snapped really quick. Basically in the first session on a flatground kickflip.
This china wood feels stronger somehow..
Next week I gonna order a few more of those uma boards directly from my distribution (working in a bike shop so I have access to skateboards too) . I report back how this will end up .
Maybe I just could asked the distribution guys where these decks are made. Never thought about that..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 21, 2021, 04:47:18 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 08:14:20 AM

Maybe I just could asked the distribution guys where these decks are made. Never thought about that..

At least distributors are more likely to talk to shop people about product, especially if you say that you liked it a lot.

Sometimes though, even they might not know where something comes from, but I am guessing they would have a good idea.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2021, 09:06:41 PM

Updated some more info in the main / first posts.

I have also changed the thread title slightly, trying to make it a bit more inclusive, as I have had people ask if they are ok to have specific questions in this thread, to which I always say YES, so now it is:

CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

Anything related to woodshops, decks, brands, which company is on which woodshop, any changes and other info relating to that can also be added here.

To note as well, there are some specific threads also going on which have a lot of good info, some more commonly updated than others, so people might not find them going back up to ten pages in Shoes and Gear Messageboards, so I have included some (but not all) relevant deck info threads here too, the top ten being these ones:

DLX Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0

Polar shapes thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112584.0

Quasi thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108613.0

FA/Hockey Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114906.0

Girl Deck Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.0

Twin tails thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.0

Egg shaped boards:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.0

WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115328.0

DIY boards/graphics:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=48527.0

Everything B L A N K s thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113993.0

And of course two other threads which I find always have good pics and info:

The Set-up Thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.0

Big Boards 9"+( I wanna hear big boys talk about their big boards)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.0

*** As much as I might be a bit weird, intense or whatever else since covid started, especially in these times when I am at home more than anything else, in between lock downs or other goings on, this has been a place for me to spend some time and have something to do. In saying that, I am not doing this for anything other than to help people and try to keep busy.

I appreciate and welcome any other info re board brands that are not on here yet, changes that I need to make to the existing lists, or any questions.

Thanks to everyone who has helped make this list what it is today, as you are the ones who benefit too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: christ0v on August 23, 2021, 11:11:49 AM

Go and check

https://www.freedomskateshop.at

You can find wheelbase and manufacturers country on 95% of the decks. There is even some sale at the moment on selected decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Loki700 on August 23, 2021, 08:31:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2021, 09:06:41 PM

I appreciate and welcome any other info re board brands that are not on here yet, changes that I need to make to the existing lists, or any questions.

Thanks to everyone who has helped make this list what it is today, as you are the ones who benefit too.

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Only brands I know of that aren’t on there are:

Sticks & Stones - South Central (I think?)
Beer City - Regulator Distribution (made in Wisconsin)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 24, 2021, 04:29:31 AM

Quote from: christ0v on August 23, 2021, 11:11:49 AM

Go and check

https://www.freedomskateshop.at

You can find wheelbase and manufacturers country on 95% of the decks. There is even some sale at the moment on selected decks.

Yeah, that is good they have all that, but only had a quick look through so far.

Also interesting that Element is listed as made in Europe. Might be similar to a few other brands that are licensed out to places like HLC woodshop for EU distribution.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: vicious cycle on August 24, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 21, 2021, 04:47:18 PM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 08:14:20 AM
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Maybe I just could asked the distribution guys where these decks are made. Never thought about that..
[close]

At least distributors are more likely to talk to shop people about product, especially if you say that you liked it a lot.

Sometimes though, even they might not know where something comes from, but I am guessing they would have a good idea.

So I asked them. He said the first run was made by DSM.
The same as enjoy he said.
The new UMA Decks are BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: christ0v on August 24, 2021, 06:22:57 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 24, 2021, 04:29:31 AM

Quote from: christ0v on August 23, 2021, 11:11:49 AM
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Go and check

https://www.freedomskateshop.at

You can find wheelbase and manufacturers country on 95% of the decks. There is even some sale at the moment on selected decks.
[close]

Yeah, that is good they have all that, but only had a quick look through so far.

Also interesting that Element is listed as made in Europe. Might be similar to a few other brands that are licensed out to places like HLC woodshop for EU distribution.

I either replied to the wrong thread or the post have been deleted/moved, idk.

Elememtn probably uses HLC for their euro distribution, but some others like AWS are listed as Mede in Mexico. Probably has something with the distribution as well and some Mexico decks are available in selected shops ?
I know that some guys that work/worked at Freedom are/were active on Slap, but idk if they`ll give some info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: Woodshop on August 24, 2021, 06:45:32 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on August 24, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 21, 2021, 04:47:18 PM
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Quote from: vicious cycle on August 21, 2021, 08:14:20 AM
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Maybe I just could asked the distribution guys where these decks are made. Never thought about that..
[close]

At least distributors are more likely to talk to shop people about product, especially if you say that you liked it a lot.

Sometimes though, even they might not know where something comes from, but I am guessing they would have a good idea.
[close]

So I asked them. He said the first run was made by DSM.
The same as enjoy he said.
The new UMA Decks are BBS

Thanks again - always nice to have info like that.

The only thing now is if you like the DSM wood / board better, check out what is still available or look up other DSM / Dwindle brands and see what is available.

That size and shape should be fairly common too, so easy enough to get more from any number of brands that they do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 24, 2021, 06:54:29 AM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 23, 2021, 08:31:25 PM

Only brands I know of that aren’t on there are:

Sticks & Stones - South Central (I think?)
Beer City - Regulator Distribution (made in Wisconsin)

Added Sticks & Stones to the list.

I had been trying to find more info about Regulator a while back and I guess I ran out of leads or forgot. I know from seeing a few 1031 decks a long time ago now, they were rather unique, but I thought they were still from one of the known woodshops, but should I be thinking more along the lines of Regulator being their own woodshop too?

Their blank uncut boards would be popular for the DIY crowd too, if they were the right concave for those guys, but the price might be a bit high at US$49.95

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 24, 2021, 07:19:17 AM

Quote from: christ0v on August 24, 2021, 06:22:57 AM

Element probably uses HLC for their euro distribution, but some others like AWS are listed as Mede in Mexico. Probably has something with the distribution as well and some Mexico decks are available in selected shops ?
I know that some guys that work/worked at Freedom are/were active on Slap, but idk if they`ll give some info.

Some brands seem to keep everything exactly the same worldwide, but others license out their brand, graphics and other product to the local distributor, which is most likely the case here.

There were a number of other brands that were doing this a lot, which was making it confusing for some people in different countries, who bought a certain brand board, but got something else.

Alien Workshop and Habitat were on HLC wood in EU not too long ago, but I think unless something has changed again, they are back under BBS (Mexico) for everywhere, the exception being the special editions on PS Stix (Mexico) that I saw and the price point decks from China, or at least that appears to be the case from the shops I have been in or seen info from.

The reverse of that is happening with Plan B, as now HLC is doing the worldwide distribution of wood for the Plan B brand, or at least that is what their media info is saying. Plan B was on PS Stix for a long time, then on Clutch / ASF in the Americas at the same time, but the boards I had seen in the last year were different to anything else - I guess I hadn't really seen HLC much at all before that.

What is making it harder too is if people are not really able to go into a shop and stand on a lot of boards, or see them in person, you might not have as much control over what you end up getting too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Loki700 on August 24, 2021, 10:16:00 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 24, 2021, 06:54:29 AM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 23, 2021, 08:31:25 PM
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Only brands I know of that aren’t on there are:

Sticks & Stones - South Central (I think?)
Beer City - Regulator Distribution (made in Wisconsin)
[close]

Added Sticks & Stones to the list.

I had been trying to find more info about Regulator a while back and I guess I ran out of leads or forgot. I know from seeing a few 1031 decks a long time ago now, they were rather unique, but I thought they were still from one of the known woodshops, but should I be thinking more along the lines of Regulator being their own woodshop too?

Their blank uncut boards would be popular for the DIY crowd too, if they were the right concave for those guys, but the price might be a bit high at US$49.95

Going off what I was told at the local skate park in Milwaukee, Beer City decks are 100% made in Wisconsin, using maple that was grown in Wisconsin. That leads me to believe that Regulator is their own woodshop, but this could all be hearsay. I haven't followed up on this information, which I probably should have. Beer City says that they're made in the USA, but they could be sourced from one of the big distributors here. Regulator and Beer City have the same P.O. Box so they're definitely one and the same.

I'll try to see what else I can find out on them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: cosmicgypsies on August 24, 2021, 10:26:26 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 24, 2021, 07:19:17 AM

Quote from: christ0v on August 24, 2021, 06:22:57 AM
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Element probably uses HLC for their euro distribution, but some others like AWS are listed as Mede in Mexico. Probably has something with the distribution as well and some Mexico decks are available in selected shops ?
I know that some guys that work/worked at Freedom are/were active on Slap, but idk if they`ll give some info.
[close]

Some brands seem to keep everything exactly the same worldwide, but others license out their brand, graphics and other product to the local distributor, which is most likely the case here.

There were a number of other brands that were doing this a lot, which was making it confusing for some people in different countries, who bought a certain brand board, but got something else.

Alien Workshop and Habitat were on HLC wood in EU not too long ago, but I think unless something has changed again, they are back under BBS (Mexico) for everywhere, the exception being the special editions on PS Stix (Mexico) that I saw and the price point decks from China, or at least that appears to be the case from the shops I have been in or seen info from.

The reverse of that is happening with Plan B, as now HLC is doing the worldwide distribution of wood for the Plan B brand, or at least that is what their media info is saying. Plan B was on PS Stix for a long time, then on Clutch / ASF in the Americas at the same time, but the boards I had seen in the last year were different to anything else - I guess I hadn't really seen HLC much at all before that.

What is making it harder too is if people are not really able to go into a shop and stand on a lot of boards, or see them in person, you might not have as much control over what you end up getting too.

I could be wrong on this but I think the HLC Habitat/AWS boards in the EU were pricepoint/logo only decks? regular AWS/Pro boards are BBS, and as you say the special boards ie the NASA collab were PS - my friend had one of the Nasa collabs and it had the oddest shape I've seen for a regular popsicle deck to this day.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 +
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on August 24, 2021, 01:45:47 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 16, 2021, 08:25:51 PM

I almost forgot this as well, when I went looking, which is pretty amazing to have a sticker like that.

DOA Silencer Deck 8.25”
31 3/4” Length

14.25” WB

6 7/8” Nose

6 5/8” Tail

Initially found it via google, but then found the actual shop - Relief Skate Supply.

https://reliefskatesupply.com/collections/decks/products/doa-hebert-brown-sheen-deck-8-25

Normal concave, but I recall someone else saying they were the same wheelbase.

(https://i.ibb.co/dmwspdr/DOA-deck-8-25-dimensions-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKpcsMX)

The Element deck I bought recently also had a lot of nice specs printed right on the top of the board:
Element Sascha Natural Defense
8.5x32.36”
N: 7.25”
T: 6.75”
WB: 14.5”

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on August 24, 2021, 10:23:38 PM

Just bought a Meow for my daughter from Tactics. It is DSM. (https://i.ibb.co/xSjG1GY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSjG1GY)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 25, 2021, 04:48:05 PM

Quote from: cosmicgypsies on August 24, 2021, 10:26:26 AM

I could be wrong on this but I think the HLC Habitat/AWS boards in the EU were pricepoint/logo only decks? regular AWS/Pro boards are BBS, and as you say the special boards ie the NASA collab were PS - my friend had one of the Nasa collabs and it had the oddest shape I've seen for a regular popsicle deck to this day.

That sounds about right though.

Funny about the NASA / PS Stix - some of the other threads with inconsistencies or odd shapes are interesting to see, maybe not something I would really highlight here time and time again, but others can post whatever they want.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: vicious cycle on August 26, 2021, 03:44:35 AM

So here's the stamp from the UMA Boards that are made by DSM. According to the guy from the distribution I have it from.

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210826_123822ifk8t.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM

How steep are kicks on Uma?

I'm on a Polar now and have liked the Sci-Fi/Pass~Port generic BBS shape. Want mellower kicks next and maybe try something different- is Baker my best option? Kinda meh on that brand.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Loki700 on August 26, 2021, 11:27:06 AM

So I made this more for myself than anything, but I put all of the information into a Google sheet. You can view it below, and you can put temporary filters on it to sort by brand, year, country, whatever you want. I'll try to keep it updated with this thread.

I also am going to put as much info as I can about trucks in the workbook, but the information I'd really like to put in there, kingpin and pivot angles, seems to be very hard to find.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10zsYuMXjvnG-hhTFbpqKn8AWOo4by1tSzZLfhQ-sleQ/edit?usp=sharing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on August 26, 2021, 11:48:00 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM

How steep are kicks on Uma?

the bbs/generator ones were super flat. flatter than dlx or any other wood id ridden recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: vicious cycle on August 26, 2021, 11:59:15 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM

How steep are kicks on Uma?

I'm on a Polar now and have liked the Sci-Fi/Pass~Port generic BBS shape. Want mellower kicks next and maybe try something different- is Baker my best option? Kinda meh on that brand.

The UMAs made by DSM I have, are pretty similar to the killing floor decks I have witch are made by BBS. Medium kicks i would say. But it seems that all UMA boards, besides this first run for some eu countries, are also made by BBS. I can't speak for those. I made a pic of the dsm uma tail. It's a few post back in here. Post 543

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 26, 2021, 10:54:49 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM

How steep are kicks on Uma?

I'm on a Polar now and have liked the Sci-Fi/Pass~Port generic BBS shape. Want mellower kicks next and maybe try something different- is Baker my best option? Kinda meh on that brand.

Baker mellow is about middle of the road for BBS, definitely steeper in the Baker decks I have than the DLX with a III or IV stamp, but also having BBS all being pressed 4 at a time, most other companies never would know or show which ones are steeper or which ones are more mellow so a few of the same exact board will have differences too, with the exception of some brands that are specifically stepper / use different presses to most, like FA / Hockey, or others that always seem a bit steeper to me, such as Slave.

If you cannot stand on a board or see it in person, maybe try asking the shop for anything in the right size from DLX with a III or IV stamp on top, or even some shops will have guys who know their product and be able to recommend something they have in stock for you. This is often not an option for some places, but worth asking anyway, just in case.

Some that I have had that have been more on the mellow side (but not always) includes first and foremost DLX (Antihero, Krooked and Real) Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Passport, Black Label, Darkroom, Deathwish, Heroin, and probably half the list from the first page all up, so there are definitely a lot of options.

Not to bring up too many options, but doing the old Neen drive over it or park on it will flatten any board out a bit more as well, which does work, as I have done many myself that just felt too steep for my liking. It certainly mellows out the kicks without causing structural issues with the deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bold on August 27, 2021, 01:59:17 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 26, 2021, 10:54:49 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM
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How steep are kicks on Uma?

I'm on a Polar now and have liked the Sci-Fi/Pass~Port generic BBS shape. Want mellower kicks next and maybe try something different- is Baker my best option? Kinda meh on that brand.
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Some that I have had that have been more on the mellow side (but not always) includes first and foremost DLX (Antihero, Krooked and Real) Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Passport, Black Label, Darkroom, Deathwish, Heroin, and probably half the list from the first page all up, so there are definitely a lot of options.

How can parking on a deck not break wood fibers? I think it's a terrible idea.

Are you sure about that info for anti-hero decks? I've only had a few antihero decks but they have all tended to be on the steeper side regarding both concave and kicks. One of them came to me gripped so I don't know what number in the stack it is but the kicks measure 22 or 23°. My most recent deck is a number IV anti-hero eagle 8.25 and the kicks are 21 or 22°. I compared it with several Krooked, Powell, and real decks as well as I and II antihero decks. The anti-hero decks had steeper kicks by far than all the rest in that shop on that day. Powell were all pretty consistent and on the shallow end.

The DGK deck I have has much shallower kicks. Reminds me of a Powell. They measure like 18 or 19°. Again I never saw if the DGK deck had a stack position mark on it Don't know if that brand does that.

Baker has a chart that shows they make both mellow and steep decks.
https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction

OG shape in 8.125 and up look like the shallower options available

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 27, 2021, 03:55:40 PM

Quote from: Bold on August 27, 2021, 01:59:17 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 26, 2021, 10:54:49 PM
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Quote from: LebowskisRug on August 26, 2021, 10:14:24 AM
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How steep are kicks on Uma?

I'm on a Polar now and have liked the Sci-Fi/Pass~Port generic BBS shape. Want mellower kicks next and maybe try something different- is Baker my best option? Kinda meh on that brand.
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Some that I have had that have been more on the mellow side (but not always) includes first and foremost DLX (Antihero, Krooked and Real) Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Passport, Black Label, Darkroom, Deathwish, Heroin, and probably half the list from the first page all up, so there are definitely a lot of options.

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How can parking on a deck not break wood fibers? I think it's a terrible idea.

Are you sure about that info for anti-hero decks? I've only had a few antihero decks but they have all tended to be on the steeper side regarding both concave and kicks. One of them came to me gripped so I don't know what number in the stack it is but the kicks measure 22 or 23°. My most recent deck is a number IV anti-hero eagle 8.25 and the kicks are 21 or 22°. I compared it with several Krooked, Powell, and real decks as well as I and II antihero decks. The anti-hero decks had steeper kicks by far than all the rest in that shop on that day. Powell were all pretty consistent and on the shallow end.

The DGK deck I have has much shallower kicks. Reminds me of a Powell. They measure like 18 or 19°. Again I never saw if the DGK deck had a stack position mark on it Don't know if that brand does that.

Baker has a chart that shows they make both mellow and steep decks.
https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction

OG shape in 8.125 and up look like the shallower options available

Concave in general is an interesting one, especially if you are out there measuring boards with the app for the angle of the kicks, but standing on them is the best way to feel out the concave, which I have done for way too many years, but shall we say that from over a few hundred DLX decks (via a skate shop) I have noted significant differences to other BBS wood - and that was the question, not all woodshops but BBS in particular.

I know there are many other brands / woodshops that have more mellow concave too, just to make that clear.

Back to DLX and Antihero in particular (although all three deck brands use the same wood so have the same options in concave), I only really like to ride the IV boards, or even III when it feels ok, which are significantly more mellow than anything else, including the Baker boards (OG Mellow concave versions) I have, as well as the DGK, and all the other BBS boards that have passed through my hands, too many to count, if we were talking numbers, it would be thousands. Call me crazy, but almost all of which I have stood on to get a feel for the board too.

Also I don't know what it is but DLX 8.25 decks in general ALL seem to be steeper in concave than others, be it different presses or what, but every number I through to IV have been way steeper than say the 8.38 that I usually ride, which would give the same conclusion to what you found with the grey eagle deck.

Here is an interesting post showing the concave differences from a while back, in particular frames 3 and 4 showing the differences in board concave and angle of kicks, which is quite significant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNBo7unFfc4/

On the subject of driving over boards, yes it seems a bit obvious that something has to give structurally and I know some people who have flattened boards too much from doing this, but I have done at least twenty or more myself, all BBS, which has no overall detrimental effect on the deck apart from making it more mellow in the kicks, sometimes doing both ends, other times only doing the tail, but it works and I have never felt any of these boards break or have issues from the process.

This video below was just the first test on a new board that was too steep, which I was not worried if I broke it or anything, but I have since been parking overnight on most boards as they spring back too quickly from just simply driving over them. Note the deck before and after, for which I felt almost no difference in the feel of it when I set it back up and skated it, so needed to park on it for way longer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFqdpGRBTua/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 27, 2021, 05:44:48 PM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 26, 2021, 11:27:06 AM

So I made this more for myself than anything, but I put all of the information into a Google sheet. You can view it below, and you can put temporary filters on it to sort by brand, year, country, whatever you want. I'll try to keep it updated with this thread.

I also am going to put as much info as I can about trucks in the workbook, but the information I'd really like to put in there, kingpin and pivot angles, seems to be very hard to find.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10zsYuMXjvnG-hhTFbpqKn8AWOo4by1tSzZLfhQ-sleQ/edit?usp=sharing

It took me a minute to come back to some posts, but on looking over the spreadsheet, that is amazing!!!!

I still haven't gone through all of it, but I will make time to check it out and compare it to the Slap list.

Great work!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bold on August 27, 2021, 06:15:40 PM

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On the subject of driving over boards,

OH gawd that made me cringe, lol.

Man, unless you can't find a board that you like I still hate the idea of stressing the deck that way. It will never be an issue for me as I don't push decks that hard.

I also find it funny that people want MORE mellow kicks as I prefer medium/steep. Anyway, good stuff, always appreciate your input.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 28, 2021, 01:13:40 AM

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OH gawd that made me cringe, lol.

Man, unless you can't find a board that you like I still hate the idea of stressing the deck that way. It will never be an issue for me as I don't push decks that hard.

I also find it funny that people want MORE mellow kicks as I prefer medium/steep. Anyway, good stuff, always appreciate your input.

Ha yeah, there are some crazy things out there that make me think "No that CANNOT possibly work" and I am pretty old and set in my ways, but especially now with more time on my hands due to covid lockdowns and minimal goings on, it has given me a bit more time to explore these weird and wonderful things, some with surprising results, but other things are still just a straight up NO after the experiment too - not going to go into details for those ones though.

From breaking ankles, front foot once, back twice way back in the late 80s and early 90s, I have found in later life I have to have more mellow kicks, especially a mellow tail otherwise I cannot easily walk, let alone skate much after a solid session. That does suck in itself, but not being able to skate at all sucks more, so I have adapted my board to accommodate my needs, thankfully the IV works, but most others I have parked on to mellow out have also turned otherwise regular / steep kicks into more mellow ones, which means if I cannot get my hands on a IV in the right size, I have other options too.

One other thing that makes it a plus is not necessarily flattening the deck permanently but flexing it helps it to not break as easily with heavy or hard landings on the kicks too. It gives just that little bit more compared to some decks that are so crispy and stiff they crack or break outright.

Just an observation with driven over decks, but I would definitely not recommend people do that before setting up any or every board they skate.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 28, 2021, 01:36:40 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on August 26, 2021, 07:56:23 PM

"Chico Stix"

https://www.chicobrenes.com

Chico coming out with a line of shaped boards

Defo grabbing one

Quote from: OldCandy on August 27, 2021, 09:52:19 PM

pressed by bbs

From the Chico Stix thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118285.0

I know I often miss the instagram stories but saw these so took a snap of them for anyone who didn't see it.

(https://i.ibb.co/4Nw5nzP/Chico-Stix.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryK1RY4)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 28, 2021, 04:25:15 AM

My ankle still feels like shit and I fell down a slight rabbit hole last night and measured all my decks.

Every DLX and Darkroom 8.25 x 32 are a bit shorter, which I really appreciate. More like 31.875 length and 8.28 width.

The Polar 8.25 x 31.875 is spot on and has longer kicks as the DLX decks, due to the shorter wheelbase.

The AWS with the regrowth stamp/etching on top is also a 8.25 but with a 32.25 length, which feels really long for me. And also longer kicks, which is nice.

Thanks for listening to the madness.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Loki700 on August 28, 2021, 03:04:31 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 27, 2021, 05:44:48 PM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 26, 2021, 11:27:06 AM
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So I made this more for myself than anything, but I put all of the information into a Google sheet. You can view it below, and you can put temporary filters on it to sort by brand, year, country, whatever you want. I'll try to keep it updated with this thread.

I also am going to put as much info as I can about trucks in the workbook, but the information I'd really like to put in there, kingpin and pivot angles, seems to be very hard to find.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10zsYuMXjvnG-hhTFbpqKn8AWOo4by1tSzZLfhQ-sleQ/edit?usp=sharing
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It took me a minute to come back to some posts, but on looking over the spreadsheet, that is amazing!!!!

I still haven't gone through all of it, but I will make time to check it out and compare it to the Slap list.

Great work!

Thanks! I’m also open to making it a collaborative workbook between select people if they’re interested.

Also, if anyone can think of other information to add to the workbook/worksheet let me know. I considered wheels and bearings but those seem pretty self explanatory and like it wouldn’t be beneficial. Putting deck specifics I think is getting granular to the point of being useless.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 28, 2021, 05:01:24 PM

Quote from: Loki700 on August 28, 2021, 03:04:31 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 27, 2021, 05:44:48 PM
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Quote from: Loki700 on August 26, 2021, 11:27:06 AM
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So I made this more for myself than anything, but I put all of the information into a Google sheet. You can view it below, and you can put temporary filters on it to sort by brand, year, country, whatever you want. I'll try to keep it updated with this thread.

I also am going to put as much info as I can about trucks in the workbook, but the information I'd really like to put in there, kingpin and pivot angles, seems to be very hard to find.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10zsYuMXjvnG-hhTFbpqKn8AWOo4by1tSzZLfhQ-sleQ/edit?usp=sharing
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It took me a minute to come back to some posts, but on looking over the spreadsheet, that is amazing!!!!

I still haven't gone through all of it, but I will make time to check it out and compare it to the Slap list.

Great work!
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Thanks! I’m also open to making it a collaborative workbook between select people if they’re interested.

That is the main reason I created "Woodshop" as a separate account, so in the event I was done or could not post, I would let others use it to update the thread.

Past woodshop threads had been good, but then when the person who created the list stopped using Slap for whatever reason, the list would not be updated so a new thread had to be created.

There is some great info on the older threads, which are all linked from the first page, first post too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 29, 2021, 08:05:24 PM

Quote from: backinaction on August 24, 2021, 10:23:38 PM

Just bought a Meow for my daughter from Tactics. It is DSM. (https://i.ibb.co/xSjG1GY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSjG1GY)

Thanks!

Updated the list.

Interesting as it was listed as PS Stix, so I wonder if the listing was not accurate, or they changed.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 31, 2021, 03:42:50 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on August 28, 2021, 04:25:15 AM

My ankle still feels like shit and I fell down a slight rabbit hole last night and measured all my decks.

Every DLX and Darkroom 8.25 x 32 are a bit shorter, which I really appreciate. More like 31.875 length and 8.28 width.

The Polar 8.25 x 31.875 is spot on and has longer kicks as the DLX decks, due to the shorter wheelbase.

The AWS with the regrowth stamp/etching on top is also a 8.25 but with a 32.25 length, which feels really long for me. And also longer kicks, which is nice.

Thanks for listening to the madness.

That is rad though, as little things like that really matter.

I have always thought it interesting that DLX has the 8.25 x 32 but many other brands have slightly shorter (and some longer) 8.25 size boards, as the 31.85 length is fairly common with a 14.25 wb for many other brands.

Curious too that some measure with the concave and others measure straight across, even within the same certain woodshops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 31, 2021, 03:43:30 AM

Anyone have any other smaller brands, new up and comers or any that are not on the list, please let me know so I can add any others to make the list more complete.

I just added Japan National to the list.

A company from a rad guy Marty Baptist from Australia.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR72qy_h7bk/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 05:46:16 AM

Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FrozenIndustries on August 31, 2021, 07:06:17 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 05:46:16 AM

Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.

Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 07:10:25 AM

Quote from: Macho Taildrop on August 31, 2021, 07:06:17 AM

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Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.
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Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.

I'mma go check Spectrum out right now. Thank you! ;D

Edit: They have one board in stock and it's tiny. Thank you for the heads up though!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FrozenIndustries on August 31, 2021, 07:52:42 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 07:10:25 AM

Quote from: Macho Taildrop on August 31, 2021, 07:06:17 AM
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Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.
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Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.
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I'mma go check Spectrum out right now. Thank you! ;D

Edit: They have one board in stock and it's tiny. Thank you for the heads up though!

Kinetic/Noc have them in a few sizes! They pretty much always get a full run.

https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 08:16:07 AM

Quote from: Macho Taildrop on August 31, 2021, 07:52:42 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin on August 31, 2021, 07:10:25 AM
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Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.
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Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.
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I'mma go check Spectrum out right now. Thank you! ;D

Edit: They have one board in stock and it's tiny. Thank you for the heads up though!
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Kinetic/Noc have them in a few sizes! They pretty much always get a full run.

https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r)

Sweet! an 8.5 Thank you man! I appreciate it! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 31, 2021, 08:16:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 31, 2021, 03:43:30 AM

Anyone have any other smaller brands, new up and comers or any that are not on the list, please let me know so I can add any others to make the list more complete.

I just added Japan National to the list.

A company from a rad guy Marty Baptist from Australia.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR72qy_h7bk/

What woodshop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: asbestos on August 31, 2021, 10:23:28 AM

anyone know where "Top Shelf" blanks are being made? skating one right now and it's not bad at all. they are in Canada through ultimate dist, and have the single dot imprinted on the top ply near the nose.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on August 31, 2021, 10:45:33 AM

Quote from: asbestos on August 31, 2021, 10:23:28 AM

anyone know where "Top Shelf" blanks are being made? skating one right now and it's not bad at all. they are in Canada through ultimate dist, and have the single dot imprinted on the top ply near the nose.

they are made in china but not dwindle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 31, 2021, 04:37:15 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 31, 2021, 08:16:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 31, 2021, 03:43:30 AM
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Anyone have any other smaller brands, new up and comers or any that are not on the list, please let me know so I can add any others to make the list more complete.

I just added Japan National to the list.

A company from a rad guy Marty Baptist from Australia.

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What woodshop?

He said BBS and Clutch are the two he uses.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on September 01, 2021, 07:46:37 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 29, 2021, 08:05:24 PM

Quote from: backinaction on August 24, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
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Just bought a Meow for my daughter from Tactics. It is DSM. (https://i.ibb.co/xSjG1GY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSjG1GY)
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Thanks!

Updated the list.

Interesting as it was listed as PS Stix, so I wonder if the listing was not accurate, or they changed.

Top photo from Skatewarehouse showed a PS Stix serial number, so it’s a recent change or multiple woodshop deal.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 01, 2021, 10:17:14 AM

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Anyone have any other smaller brands, new up and comers or any that are not on the list, please let me know so I can add any others to make the list more complete.

I just added Japan National to the list.

A company from a rad guy Marty Baptist from Australia.

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What woodshop?
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He said BBS and Clutch are the two he uses.

8) right. Oh well. Either way, boards look good, but not good enough to warrant getting one shipped back to the USA

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LE_rik on September 01, 2021, 11:01:31 AM

Anyone can confirm that every krooked deck is made by bbs? I just ordered one with that in mind
Thank You guys

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 01, 2021, 04:52:47 PM

Quote from: LE_rik on September 01, 2021, 11:01:31 AM

Anyone can confirm that every krooked deck is made by bbs? I just ordered one with that in mind
Thank You guys

That would be a very firm "Yes" with all normal DLX decks (popsicles and shaped boards) being made there for as long as I can remember. *

* Completes are made in China and those Evil Beamer specials were a specific small woodshop, but they don't really count.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LE_rik on September 02, 2021, 12:36:15 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 01, 2021, 04:52:47 PM

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Anyone can confirm that every krooked deck is made by bbs? I just ordered one with that in mind
Thank You guys
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That would be a very firm "Yes" with all normal DLX decks (popsicles and shaped boards) being made there for as long as I can remember. *

* Completes are made in China and those Evil Beamer specials were a specific small woodshop, but they don't really count.

Thanks a lot bro - that was the answer I was looking for. With all the pandemic Mixing up Woodshops kinda thing I was a bit worried.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 02, 2021, 11:26:41 AM

Not that anyone cares but me

MoMA/TheSkateRoom use Control as noted by the Made in Canada stickers they use.
(https://i2.wp.com/flawlesscrowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/KEITH-HARING-SKATEBOARD-DECK-4.jpg)

I'm always checking in in hopes that they'll randomly have a sale, but they never do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 02, 2021, 06:30:37 PM

Quote from: LE_rik on September 02, 2021, 12:36:15 AM

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Quote from: LE_rik on September 01, 2021, 11:01:31 AM
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Anyone can confirm that every krooked deck is made by bbs? I just ordered one with that in mind
Thank You guys
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That would be a very firm "Yes" with all normal DLX decks (popsicles and shaped boards) being made there for as long as I can remember. *

* Completes are made in China and those Evil Beamer specials were a specific small woodshop, but they don't really count.
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Thanks a lot bro - that was the answer I was looking for. With all the pandemic Mixing up Woodshops kinda thing I was a bit worried.

I can totally understand where you are coming from.

When I find something I like, I try to get as many as I can just so if something happens in the future or it changes, I still have the exact thing I like, rather than having to change or be without when this one is gone.

The funny thing is almost all the current top tier brands are still with their pre pandemic suppliers, but more of the smaller or lesser produced brands and even some of the mid range / fairly well established brands that were on the decline are now having to source whatever they can get, which has caused more than a few changes, along with a few unhappy customers.

Even some smaller woodshops are struggling to source raw materials, which pretty much means their business is down the drain until they can get more.

The flow on effect is still pretty savage, even if the bigger woodshops and brands are seemingly back up to full production now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 02, 2021, 06:33:53 PM

Quote from: TwisT on September 02, 2021, 11:26:41 AM

Not that anyone cares but me

MoMA/TheSkateRoom use Control as noted by the Made in Canada stickers they use.

I'm always checking in in hopes that they'll randomly have a sale, but they never do.

Always interesting!!!

Are they the backs of these decks, from this Instagram post?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKWhtUQFo4b/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Magnolia on September 02, 2021, 07:25:26 PM

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Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.
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Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.
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I'mma go check Spectrum out right now. Thank you! ;D

Edit: They have one board in stock and it's tiny. Thank you for the heads up though!
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Kinetic/Noc have them in a few sizes! They pretty much always get a full run.

https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r)
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Sweet! an 8.5 Thank you man! I appreciate it! ;D ;D ;D

Do pennswood 8.5s still have a 14" wheelbase? I think I had a scumco deck with those dimensions once

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 04, 2021, 04:38:48 AM

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Would anyone happen to know if Pennswood is still producing boards? Fuck Yinz and Scum co logo boards are out of stock everywhere besides American Nomad and they have uh... unconventional shapes. I DMed Pennswood on Insta and haven't heard back.
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Pretty sure they still do Spectrum.
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I'mma go check Spectrum out right now. Thank you! ;D

Edit: They have one board in stock and it's tiny. Thank you for the heads up though!
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Kinetic/Noc have them in a few sizes! They pretty much always get a full run.

https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/spectrum-character-deck?_pos=6&_sid=b8a725eec&_ss=r)
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Sweet! an 8.5 Thank you man! I appreciate it! ;D ;D ;D
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Do pennswood 8.5s still have a 14" wheelbase? I think I had a scumco deck with those dimensions once

Been looking around and cannot find much info, with one site saying they had 14.25 wb on the team logo decks, but the best link might be this one:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115328.msg3494868#msg3494868

A post from @off a few months back in the WBSWB thread

scumco deep dish 8.5/31.5/14wb

It would seem that there are not many Pennswood decks still around, that one above and a few others I could find.

https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard?variant=31852256297096

Says wheelbase is 14.25 so you could hit them up and ask.

https://shop.atlasskateboarding.com/search?q=spectrum

Some in 8.5 there too. No mention of wheelbase.

**** Note: The hardest part about looking up Scumco decks is most are on PS Stix (which also have the 8.5 x 31.5 with 14 wb in case you were wondering), with not many / the only one being the team oval logo on Pennswood, going by either the pics or what the listing has in the description, otherwise there would have been a lot more to add to this.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on September 04, 2021, 12:12:24 PM

I asked Cleaver skateboards what factory they use (bbs or ps) and recieved a message that they make the boards at the same factory as Skate Mental. Not a clear answer as i see here is written Skate Mental used PS before and now 2021 they use Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 04, 2021, 01:50:14 PM

Quote from: El Freegano on September 04, 2021, 12:12:24 PM

I asked Cleaver skateboards what factory they use (bbs or ps) and recieved a message that they make the boards at the same factory as Skate Mental. Not a clear answer as i see here is written Skate Mental used PS before and now 2021 they use Clutch.

I would say they are now on Clutch, most likely because Clutch supplies more to South America and Cleaver is a smaller brand, which makes sense.

The "same as Skate Mental" now being on Clutch, or at least has for a minute is the most likely answer too, as BBS seems to still be very much the big brand supplier and the only other option being PS Stix seems flat out and unlikely to be supplying wood to a smaller brand from down south.

Woodshop list now updated with a few other brands too - quite a few smaller brands who had information on woodshop or answered questions, but funny that some still will not give a straight answer.

When looking through some shop lists, there are so many brands I have never heard of, some of whom have been around for a while, going by their instagram posts, etc.

Always happy to have any other info to make the list more complete.

Thanks to any and all who contribute - it is much appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 05, 2021, 12:17:47 AM

I'm skating for the first time in years a HLC board, after skating pretty much only BBS, and I'm super happy. Board feels great and since HLC boards are way cheaper in here I'll stick to them probably.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: christ0v on September 05, 2021, 01:54:15 AM

Quote from: moonordie on September 05, 2021, 12:17:47 AM

I'm skating for the first time in years a HLC board, after skating pretty much only BBS, and I'm super happy. Board feels great and since HLC boards are way cheaper in here I'll stick to them probably.

Which brand are you skating as there seems to be different tiers of quality with HLC ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 05, 2021, 02:07:16 AM

Quote from: moonordie on September 05, 2021, 12:17:47 AM

I'm skating for the first time in years a HLC board, after skating pretty much only BBS, and I'm super happy. Board feels great and since HLC boards are way cheaper in here I'll stick to them probably.

Also curious about brand, concave and anything else, including differences or similarities with kicks to BBS.

One guy I know said he has HLC wood and that it is the absolute flattest thing ever, which seems weird from looking at all the HLC boards and concaves online, including their own site.

They appear closest to Dwindle but looks can be totally off with things like this.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on September 06, 2021, 03:24:56 AM

SO, I went for a PS Stix - GX1000 as I was chasing that Hockey/FA shape. Full Nose.

First 2 weeks - great deck
One day after two weeks - Horrible

It is true what they say about PS Stix, last 2 weeks goes soggy af and dead. Also the only board I had that got major as chipping and seperation on the nose ( flatground and some ledge work )

If I got money to burn i'll buy a PS Stix, but really would like that full shape with a longer lasting deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 07, 2021, 05:07:14 AM

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Which brand are you skating as there seems to be different tiers of quality with HLC ?

no different tiers of quality at HLC
They are all pressed the same way and they are great

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 07, 2021, 05:11:05 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 05, 2021, 02:07:16 AM

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I'm skating for the first time in years a HLC board, after skating pretty much only BBS, and I'm super happy. Board feels great and since HLC boards are way cheaper in here I'll stick to them probably.
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Also curious about brand, concave and anything else, including differences or similarities with kicks to BBS.

One guy I know said he has HLC wood and that it is the absolute flattest thing ever, which seems weird from looking at all the HLC boards and concaves online, including their own site.

They appear closest to Dwindle but looks can be totally off with things like this.

it's wrong for the flat part

Quality wise the boards are almost as good as BBS imo

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 07, 2021, 05:23:51 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on September 06, 2021, 03:24:56 AM

SO, I went for a PS Stix - GX1000 as I was chasing that Hockey/FA shape. Full Nose.

First 2 weeks - great deck
One day after two weeks - Horrible

It is true what they say about PS Stix, last 2 weeks goes soggy af and dead. Also the only board I had that got major as chipping and seperation on the nose ( flatground and some ledge work )

If I got money to burn i'll buy a PS Stix, but really would like that full shape with a longer lasting deck.

GO for BBS
Hockey / FA (love them because they are short)
Real FULL SE maybe

you can sometimes have a lasting PS Stix deck though (i had a Quasi and a GX1000 that were great)

So glad Hockey/FA moved to BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 07, 2021, 11:44:33 AM

Skating an HLC board and I'm loving it, thing is that my local has Sour on sale and some are "S1" and others "S4". Any idea about the differences?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on September 07, 2021, 12:03:16 PM

Quote from: moonordie on September 07, 2021, 11:44:33 AM

Skating an HLC board and I'm loving it, thing is that my local has Sour on sale and some are "S1" and others "S4". Any idea about the differences?

this is taken from different decks on their webstore, looks like different shapes/caves:
S1 Low Concave
S1 Medium Low Concave
S1 Medium Concave
Medium Concave
Deeper Concave
Shape S4 Low Concave
S4 Low Concave

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 08, 2021, 06:25:18 AM

I made it into the new local Fasttimes store (Brisbane, Australia) and had a good look at a lot of the new boards in.

Maxallure is on Clutch (letter / number stamp on top).

Zero pro board looks like Dwindle / similar woodshop with "Made in China" but no other identifying markings, but seemed to have the same concave and look as both the Zero team boards, the Toy Machine and Foundation team boards and one Girl board, so they could all be from Dalian Hauhong.

Uma was also on the other wood, with the "Made in China" sticker on the decks (previously had seen BBS)

Sci Fi Fantasy had the Generator sticker over the shrink, which is a bit odd (usually on the deck itself) but still looked normal / single dimple in the front bolts area.

Huf was Clutch.

There was more, but I just cannot remember the rest right now.

Added:

Doom Sayers was not BBS or PS Stix from the markings and concave and might have had a "Made in China" sticker too, but I just cannot recall.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Chupacabra on September 08, 2021, 11:06:41 AM

Newest run of Uma are Bareback (at least the ones I got) They have the little holograph sticker.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 08, 2021, 06:23:34 PM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on September 08, 2021, 11:06:41 AM

Newest run of Uma are Bareback (at least the ones I got) They have the little holograph sticker.

That's the weird thing, because the first lot I had seen here were definitely BBS.

Then someone else was saying the one they had in EU was not BBS, as per a page or so back, now these ones here were not, so I am wondering if it is more an ongoing thing, where USA has more BBS and EU, Asia, AU etc will have more wood from China in the future.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 08, 2021, 07:44:47 PM

The newest run of Rowley's Free Dome decks are all on Clutch K shapes and not PS Stix like the other runs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TheLowerBack on September 08, 2021, 10:46:48 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 31, 2021, 03:43:30 AM

Anyone have any other smaller brands, new up and comers or any that are not on the list, please let me know so I can add any others to make the list more complete.

I just added Japan National to the list.

A company from a rad guy Marty Baptist from Australia.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CR72qy_h7bk/

My small brand, Fortress, uses AD. Really digging these boards. I’ll have this new run on my website soon.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP3xgoil-fB/?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP08imnFRX8/?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 09, 2021, 03:42:34 AM

Quote from: TheLowerBack on September 08, 2021, 10:46:48 PM

My small brand, Fortress, uses AD. Really digging these boards. I’ll have this new run on my website soon.

Yeah, rad!

I updated the list with everything from this page now.

Not sure as Fortress was already on the list under Clutch, so should that just be removed or was that round # 1 or unknown / other company maybe?

** Just checked your instagram and the Bound (boobs) board looks like it is on clutch, so all good there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TheLowerBack on September 09, 2021, 08:44:31 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 09, 2021, 03:42:34 AM

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My small brand, Fortress, uses AD. Really digging these boards. I’ll have this new run on my website soon.

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Yeah, rad!

I updated the list with everything from this page now.

Not sure as Fortress was already on the list under Clutch, so should that just be removed or was that round # 1 or unknown / other company maybe?

** Just checked your instagram and the Bound (boobs) board looks like it is on clutch, so all good there.

Yep. First run was Clutch. I’m going to try and stick with AD moving forward.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Firebert on September 09, 2021, 08:56:52 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 08, 2021, 06:23:34 PM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on September 08, 2021, 11:06:41 AM
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That's the weird thing, because the first lot I had seen here were definitely BBS.

Bareback = BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 09, 2021, 04:40:25 PM

Quote from: Firebert on September 09, 2021, 08:56:52 AM

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Newest run of Uma are Bareback (at least the ones I got) They have the little holograph sticker.
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That's the weird thing, because the first lot I had seen here were definitely BBS.
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Bareback = BBS

Ha yes...

Woodshop = skate shop guy

But I have even had to clarify BBS / Generator more times that I would have thought too, as people had thought they were two separate woodshops.

What I was meaning though is at the moment people are finding the made in China Uma decks in a few places (Europe, Australia, etc), but initially all the Uma decks including the first drop that came out here too had the made in Mexico sticker and from the feel of standing on them, were definitely BBS (Bareback) :)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vintagebody on September 12, 2021, 07:07:58 AM

I'm skating a Baker board for the first time in ages. Figgy logo board. Its shit. Pop feels dead.
I guess its true that DLX gets the best tier wood, even tho all BBS should have same wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: S. on September 12, 2021, 11:47:40 AM

Quote from: Vintagebody on September 12, 2021, 07:07:58 AM

I'm skating a Baker board for the first time in ages. Figgy logo board. Its shit. Pop feels dead.
I guess its true that DLX gets the best tier wood, even tho all BBS should have same wood.

My last real decks varied greatly in quality. They were either great or fell apart quickly. Many of my friends skate real decks and have had the same experience. A friend broke two brand new real decks in three Sessions!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vintagebody on September 12, 2021, 11:59:24 AM

So covid is effecting quality

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 12, 2021, 05:47:08 PM

Quote from: Vintagebody on September 12, 2021, 07:07:58 AM

I'm skating a Baker board for the first time in ages. Figgy logo board. Its shit. Pop feels dead.
I guess its true that DLX gets the best tier wood, even tho all BBS should have same wood.

There are always going to be those certain issues, depending on shelf life, storage, even delivery if you didn't buy it off the wall of a skate shop.

Just curious where you got the deck?

There are a lot of fake Baker decks out and around, even popping up in "real skate shops" from some posts I have seen on Instagram too, which people have been easily tricked with lately.

Quote from: S. on September 12, 2021, 11:47:40 AM

My last real decks varied greatly in quality. They were either great or fell apart quickly. Many of my friends skate real decks and have had the same experience. A friend broke two brand new real decks in three Sessions!

As to the overall quality of boards, there would seem to be some overall issues with some boards more so after covid than before, be it not enough time to cure before being sent out, or who knows what else, but for any board breakages, the first thing I would check is how the board was broken - no matter what brand of deck, (even carbon fibre) if the landing is heavy and not over bolts, that thing is not going to last.

How were the boards broken, eg through the bolts, snapped tail / nose off, through the middle?

I do know some people have kept them, sent them back or even taken pictures and been nice about it, to which they were sent another deck, but if there are clear marks of being focused to bits after cracking, there is nothing anyone can do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 12, 2021, 06:58:57 PM

So I came across some Flip boards made by HLC and was thinking of pulling the trigger on them. I've seen posts that described HLC close to BBS and as the posters above said, BBS has been hit or miss for me as well.

Anyone with more insight/experience with recent HLC decks would be appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 13, 2021, 01:14:05 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on September 12, 2021, 06:58:57 PM

So I came across some Flip boards made by HLC and was thinking of pulling the trigger on them. I've seen posts that described HLC close to BBS and as the posters above said, BBS has been hit or miss for me as well.

Anyone with more insight/experience with recent HLC decks would be appreciated!

I'm currently skating a sovrn board, which is HLC, and I'm loving it. I liked it so much that I got a Sour straight away to skate after.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on September 15, 2021, 06:10:26 PM

Can anyone confirm that Habitat is on BBS and they are a sister to AWS right? If that's the case, is the shape fuller like and AWS?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 15, 2021, 08:30:13 PM

Quote from: Damoforce on September 15, 2021, 06:10:26 PM

Can anyone confirm that Habitat is on BBS and they are a sister to AWS right? If that's the case, is the shape fuller like and AWS?

Yes, both BBS wood and same everything, from the last lot I saw not too long ago.

You can compare them on their respective websites too:

https://www.alienworkshop.com/

https://habitatskateboards.com/

This was your board size wasn't it?

Dimensions
8.25 X 32.25 WB 14.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on September 15, 2021, 08:31:07 PM

Saw some Terror of Planet X TOPX decks with a made in Canada sticker. Switched to Control?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 15, 2021, 08:53:49 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on September 15, 2021, 08:31:07 PM

Saw some Terror of Planet X TOPX decks with a made in Canada sticker. Switched to Control?

Maybe another smaller company being squeezed out of supply from BBS, so smaller woodshops picking up some more customers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 16, 2021, 05:57:12 PM

OK Boomer just got one from Kinetic shop, as per this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82832.msg3635697#msg3635697

From the Skate Shit you've Bought Recently thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82832.6930

Found this post from Uprise shop that has the third pic with top shots, so not sure if the red maple leaf on black background is just a sticker by an unknown woodshop, or if it is from Control, as I thought they had red leaf on white sticker previously.

*** I know there are not many woodshops in Canada, but just wanted to make sure.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTVQIrJJZJO/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 16, 2021, 06:02:59 PM

Woodshop list updated again, not too many changed / added but there are always a few.

Thank you @GumOnMyGrip for the TOPX info, @moonordie for the HLC and others on the last page.

Looking at some of these other online shops, there are so many new / smaller deck brands on them I have never heard of, so if anyone has any others to add, I am always keen to put more on the list.

The funny thing is some I looked at had been on instagram for a long time, but I guess they only have their boards in a few local shops or in certain areas.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 16, 2021, 07:00:26 PM

On Danny Way's Instagram story, he's showing off HLC.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: jimgrude on September 16, 2021, 07:22:49 PM

I'm still wondering about Colours Collectiv. Bought a deck on a whim, and it was the best I've had in years. Then got another one, and it was a dud. Really curious about what woodshop it could be.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 16, 2021, 07:57:13 PM

Quote from: jimgrude on September 16, 2021, 07:22:49 PM

I'm still wondering about Colours Collectiv. Bought a deck on a whim, and it was the best I've had in years. Then got another one, and it was a dud. Really curious about what woodshop it could be.

They are listed under Dwindle / DSM so unless they went with someone else to supply them, eg for a different country to where they are normally distributed, as can often be the case between USA and other places like EU or Asia, might just have been one of those things where one board felt better than the other.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 16, 2021, 07:58:05 PM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on September 16, 2021, 07:00:26 PM

On Danny Way's Instagram story, he's showing off HLC.

Thanks - that was cool to see. Some of the other guys like Felipe Gustavo had some more on his story too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Murge on September 17, 2021, 12:32:16 PM

Quote from: TheLowerBack on September 09, 2021, 08:44:31 AM

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My small brand, Fortress, uses AD. Really digging these boards. I’ll have this new run on my website soon.

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Yeah, rad!

I updated the list with everything from this page now.

Not sure as Fortress was already on the list under Clutch, so should that just be removed or was that round # 1 or unknown / other company maybe?

** Just checked your instagram and the Bound (boobs) board looks like it is on clutch, so all good there.
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Yep. First run was Clutch. I’m going to try and stick with AD moving forward.

8.5 and 8.75 with a 14.25wb?! That’s awesome. What’s the concave and kicks like?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on September 17, 2021, 06:06:25 PM

Anyone ever heard of a 8.375 AWS shape with a 31.5" L and 14" wb? I just assumed it was their 8.3x32.25x14.3 Dumb move(especially with a 8.375) I looked it up on one of the big sites after the fact and those are the specs I found.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 18, 2021, 05:58:18 AM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 17, 2021, 06:06:25 PM

Anyone ever heard of a 8.375 AWS shape with a 31.5" L and 14" wb? I just assumed it was their 8.3x32.25x14.3 Dumb move(especially with a 8.375) I looked it up on one of the big sites after the fact and those are the specs I found.

Is it a current board or an older one, or do you have a pic?

If you already bought it, does it have PS Stix # on top or just the Alien Workshop logo etched, which would be BBS, unless it was one of those from China when things were a bit funny in the woodshop world, or even HLC in EU when they were doing some.

There are a few 8.375 decks on their web site, but all appear to have the standard size and wheelbase, pretty much as you had shown.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/

Three different decks of the same width show different wheelbases, so who knows, but as others have said, their board measurements are often out.

8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.25
8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 * about the same dimensions as the one I have here (older graphic though)
8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.4

I am curious now to know more.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on September 18, 2021, 09:40:13 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 18, 2021, 05:58:18 AM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 17, 2021, 06:06:25 PM
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Anyone ever heard of a 8.375 AWS shape with a 31.5" L and 14" wb? I just assumed it was their 8.3x32.25x14.3 Dumb move(especially with a 8.375) I looked it up on one of the big sites after the fact and those are the specs I found.
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Is it a current board or an older one, or do you have a pic?

If you already bought it, does it have PS Stix # on top or just the Alien Workshop logo etched, which would be BBS, unless it was one of those from China when things were a bit funny in the woodshop world, or even HLC in EU when they were doing some.

There are a few 8.375 decks on their web site, but all appear to have the standard size and wheelbase, pretty much as you had shown.

https://www.alienworkshop.com/

Three different decks of the same width show different wheelbases, so who knows, but as others have said, their board measurements are often out.

8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.25
8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 * about the same dimensions as the one I have here (older graphic though)
8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.4

I am curious now to know more.

(https://i.imgur.com/XPadbtd.jpg)
Thanks for the reply man..I'm glad your interested @Woodshop , because this is getting even better now. On the AWS site the measurements are not even listed (and only for this deck.) So I dm'd them like a man and they told me it is 8.375 X 32.5 X 14.5 If that's the case I'm bummed because those measurements suck balls. Lesson learned don't get f'd up and order online.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 18, 2021, 03:36:18 PM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 18, 2021, 09:40:13 AM

Thanks for the reply man..I'm glad your interested @Woodshop , because this is getting even better now. On the AWS site the measurements are not even listed (and only for this deck.) So I dm'd them like a man and they told me it is 8.375 X 32.5 X 14.5 If that's the case I'm bummed because those measurements suck balls. Lesson learned don't get f'd up and order online.

Was it from Parade, which in turn comes back to this deck:

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8375-304-6797161005242/

https://amateurathleteskateshop.com/collections/skate-decks/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8-375

Weird because there seems to be almost no mention of that deck anywhere else, besides their site and the AWS site that I can find, and not too many other dimensions on their other boards, that I have seen, but those other boards do appear correct, going by boards I know / other sites and shop dimensions.

So just to check, you were keen on the shorter board, but if it is the longer one, you will not be at all stoked on the size and shape?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on September 19, 2021, 04:31:30 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 18, 2021, 03:36:18 PM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 18, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
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Thanks for the reply man..I'm glad your interested @Woodshop , because this is getting even better now. On the AWS site the measurements are not even listed (and only for this deck.) So I dm'd them like a man and they told me it is 8.375 X 32.5 X 14.5 If that's the case I'm bummed because those measurements suck balls. Lesson learned don't get f'd up and order online.
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Was it from Parade, which in turn comes back to this deck:

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8375-304-6797161005242/

https://amateurathleteskateshop.com/collections/skate-decks/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8-375

Weird because there seems to be almost no mention of that deck anywhere else, besides their site and the AWS site that I can find, and not too many other dimensions on their other boards, that I have seen, but those other boards do appear correct, going by boards I know / other sites and shop dimensions.

So just to check, you were keen on the shorter board, but if it is the longer one, you will not be at all stoked on the size and shape?

Well it sure seems like it will be the short measurements. I would rather have those short specs than the really long ones that AWS told me. Neither are really appealing to me tbh, because I love my current one with the 32.25 length and 14.3. wb

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TheLowerBack on September 19, 2021, 12:50:57 PM

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My small brand, Fortress, uses AD. Really digging these boards. I’ll have this new run on my website soon.

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Yeah, rad!

I updated the list with everything from this page now.

Not sure as Fortress was already on the list under Clutch, so should that just be removed or was that round # 1 or unknown / other company maybe?

** Just checked your instagram and the Bound (boobs) board looks like it is on clutch, so all good there.
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Yep. First run was Clutch. I’m going to try and stick with AD moving forward.
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8.5 and 8.75 with a 14.25wb?! That’s awesome. What’s the concave and kicks like?

The shape is like a slightly steeper AWS.
Definitely steeper than I’ve ridden in a while, but nothing drastic

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 20, 2021, 11:16:44 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUDQq1EK0dj/?utm_medium=copy_link
First time in ages that I'm stoked about Girl

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Idk on September 20, 2021, 02:48:27 PM

Has anyone tried the 8.175 Aliens? I think they are twin tail.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 03:21:01 PM

Quote from: Idk on September 20, 2021, 02:48:27 PM

Has anyone tried the 8.175 Aliens? I think they are twin tail.

https://alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/owlien-twin-8-375-p-b

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/OWLIEN_TWIN_1500x.jpg?v=1611779354)

Dimensions
8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.25
Proprietary symmetrical shape

The Owlien twin is 8.375 and there has been a bit of talk about it on the Twin tail thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.360

Quote from: goodatmeth on September 03, 2021, 05:58:09 AM

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Did anyone ever pick up the AWS Owlien Twin?
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I messaged @PrettyRicki about that one and he said the wheelbase is actually 14.375 instead of 14.25.
A friend of mine recently got it and also confirmed that the wheelbase is longer.
Tails are about 6.875"

I would still say overall it is a decent board, good dimensions, twin kicks, good shape if you are into that size.

The boards in the twin variety in the 8.175 range are more the Deathwish Neen, or a couple of others, also on the twin tails thread.

Some great info in that thread if you are into twin shapes.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 04:52:25 PM

Quote from: Idk on September 20, 2021, 02:48:27 PM

Has anyone tried the 8.175 Aliens? I think they are twin tail.

Just to add more here, same as I put up on the Twin Tail thread:

Quote from: Idk on September 20, 2021, 04:25:16 PM

Anyone try the 8.175 Alien? Yaje said it was twin tail when it was his pro model

The info I have on that one is pretty slim, which has been out of stock for a while now.

Product code: aw100 Item has been discontinued

https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/yaje-popson-x-burial

(So old the page does not exist any more)

ALIEN WORKSHOP
X Burial Yaje Popson Skateboard Deck 8.175''

The only current 8.175 board in stock that comes up on any searches shows it is not a twin.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 07:34:05 PM

I just saw this post with Uma decks for Roman going pro.

Always good to see board dimensions listed too.

(https://i.ibb.co/vXHfRPn/Uma-Roman-decks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LN8BHt7)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 08:04:12 PM

I went looking for the top to see the shape better and found a good one of it.

I can see the BBS hologram sticker on the top of these boards (over the back truck bolts) so it would be interesting to see if they are the same everywhere.

As per the previous post, the site also has all dimensions of these decks, which is always nice.

UMA PUNCH AND RUN ROMAN 9.25"
First Edition Roman Pabich pro model
Art by Nathaniel Russell

Custom "ROME" Shape

9.25" x 32" / 14.25" WB

https://www.uma-landsleds.com/collections/boards/products/uma-punch-and-run-roman-9-25

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0492/2143/5547/products/UDRR36-925-Top.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on September 20, 2021, 08:06:12 PM

I'm riding the 2021 version of BLVD, not sure if it's Clutch.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/BLVD_Traveler_Green_Deck/descpage-BVTRGRN82DK.html

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Lurkville_Keaveny_Mugshot_Deck/descpage-LUKVMG82DK.html

I saw on page 1 Lurkville is Clutch and they have the similar white round sticker, didn't notice the usual lettering marks on the front mounting bolts.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 09:03:49 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on September 20, 2021, 08:06:12 PM

I'm riding the 2021 version of BLVD, not sure if it's Clutch.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/BLVD_Traveler_Green_Deck/descpage-BVTRGRN82DK.html

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Lurkville_Keaveny_Mugshot_Deck/descpage-LUKVMG82DK.html

I saw on page 1 Lurkville is Clutch and they have the similar white round sticker, didn't notice the usual lettering marks on the front mounting bolts.

Both are under Clutch.

I haven't seen any in person that I can recall, but I know from other boards, which had a smaller round size sticker usually over the number / letter stamps, so it could quite easily be from Clutch.

Someone else has those same stickers, but again I cannot recall who it was right now.

I did find another BLVD deck that appears to have the number / letter stamp on it but the pic is fairly grainy and it is an old deck too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on September 21, 2021, 08:29:54 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 18, 2021, 03:36:18 PM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 18, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
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Thanks for the reply man..I'm glad your interested @Woodshop , because this is getting even better now. On the AWS site the measurements are not even listed (and only for this deck.) So I dm'd them like a man and they told me it is 8.375 X 32.5 X 14.5 If that's the case I'm bummed because those measurements suck balls. Lesson learned don't get f'd up and order online.
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Was it from Parade, which in turn comes back to this deck:

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8375-304-6797161005242/

https://amateurathleteskateshop.com/collections/skate-decks/products/aw-frankie-revelation-8-375

Weird because there seems to be almost no mention of that deck anywhere else, besides their site and the AWS site that I can find, and not too many other dimensions on their other boards, that I have seen, but those other boards do appear correct, going by boards I know / other sites and shop dimensions.

So just to check, you were keen on the shorter board, but if it is the longer one, you will not be at all stoked on the size and shape?

@Woodshop My deck came today, and it is the exact measurements of my current one. So in summary both quoted measurements were incorrect, and it worked out perfect.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 21, 2021, 04:22:10 PM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 21, 2021, 08:29:54 AM

@Woodshop My deck came today, and it is the exact measurements of my current one. So in summary both quoted measurements were incorrect, and it worked out perfect.

A good result then!

So what are the actual measurements of that board, given I have heard AWS seems to have the wrong measurements up on the site for a few of the current decks?

Edit: The AWS deck of similar size I have is about 8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.38 which is pretty comfortable for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Kneesles on September 21, 2021, 06:23:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 09:03:49 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on September 20, 2021, 08:06:12 PM
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I'm riding the 2021 version of BLVD, not sure if it's Clutch.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/BLVD_Traveler_Green_Deck/descpage-BVTRGRN82DK.html

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Lurkville_Keaveny_Mugshot_Deck/descpage-LUKVMG82DK.html

I saw on page 1 Lurkville is Clutch and they have the similar white round sticker, didn't notice the usual lettering marks on the front mounting bolts.
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Both are under Clutch.

I haven't seen any in person that I can recall, but I know from other boards, which had a smaller round size sticker usually over the number / letter stamps, so it could quite easily be from Clutch.

Someone else has those same stickers, but again I cannot recall who it was right now.

I did find another BLVD deck that appears to have the number / letter stamp on it but the pic is fairly grainy and it is an old deck too.

BLVD used to be clutch but the last one I picked up in mid 2020 was from a different wood shop. It was much steeper in both the kicks and concave and has imprints on the bottom of the deck in the center of both the truck holes in the shape of a football. It seems like it would be an alright board but its no clutch. I wonder if lurkville switched too or if it was just one of those random covid runs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2021, 06:49:17 PM

Quote from: Kneesles on September 21, 2021, 06:23:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 20, 2021, 09:03:49 PM
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I'm riding the 2021 version of BLVD, not sure if it's Clutch.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/BLVD_Traveler_Green_Deck/descpage-BVTRGRN82DK.html

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Lurkville_Keaveny_Mugshot_Deck/descpage-LUKVMG82DK.html

I saw on page 1 Lurkville is Clutch and they have the similar white round sticker, didn't notice the usual lettering marks on the front mounting bolts.
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Both are under Clutch.

I haven't seen any in person that I can recall, but I know from other boards, which had a smaller round size sticker usually over the number / letter stamps, so it could quite easily be from Clutch.

Someone else has those same stickers, but again I cannot recall who it was right now.

I did find another BLVD deck that appears to have the number / letter stamp on it but the pic is fairly grainy and it is an old deck too.
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BLVD used to be clutch but the last one I picked up in mid 2020 was from a different wood shop. It was much steeper in both the kicks and concave and has imprints on the bottom of the deck in the center of both the truck holes in the shape of a football. It seems like it would be an alright board but its no clutch. I wonder if lurkville switched too or if it was just one of those random covid runs.

Could be, not skated a Clutch board, playing it safe with BBS. Whatever woodshop this is the board feels just slightly above average, lacks the trademark snap of BBS but for the price I won't complain.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on September 21, 2021, 07:47:29 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 21, 2021, 04:22:10 PM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on September 21, 2021, 08:29:54 AM
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@Woodshop My deck came today, and it is the exact measurements of my current one. So in summary both quoted measurements were incorrect, and it worked out perfect.
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A good result then!

So what are the actual measurements of that board, given I have heard AWS seems to have the wrong measurements up on the site for a few of the current decks?

Edit: The AWS deck of similar size I have is about 8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.38 which is pretty comfortable for me.

Yes all's well that ends well man, It is actually those exact measurements.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 21, 2021, 08:07:02 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on September 21, 2021, 06:49:17 PM

Quote from: Kneesles on September 21, 2021, 06:23:37 PM
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I'm riding the 2021 version of BLVD, not sure if it's Clutch.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/BLVD_Traveler_Green_Deck/descpage-BVTRGRN82DK.html

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Lurkville_Keaveny_Mugshot_Deck/descpage-LUKVMG82DK.html

I saw on page 1 Lurkville is Clutch and they have the similar white round sticker, didn't notice the usual lettering marks on the front mounting bolts.
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Both are under Clutch.

I haven't seen any in person that I can recall, but I know from other boards, which had a smaller round size sticker usually over the number / letter stamps, so it could quite easily be from Clutch.

Someone else has those same stickers, but again I cannot recall who it was right now.

I did find another BLVD deck that appears to have the number / letter stamp on it but the pic is fairly grainy and it is an old deck too.
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BLVD used to be clutch but the last one I picked up in mid 2020 was from a different wood shop. It was much steeper in both the kicks and concave and has imprints on the bottom of the deck in the center of both the truck holes in the shape of a football. It seems like it would be an alright board but its no clutch. I wonder if lurkville switched too or if it was just one of those random covid runs.
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Could be, not skated a Clutch board, playing it safe with BBS. Whatever woodshop this is the board feels just slightly above average, lacks the trademark snap of BBS but for the price I won't complain.

Re different wood, maybe guess it was one of the same type of woodshops from China that are supplying boards to a lot of smaller brands, concave similar to Dwindle, from what I have seen and what others are saying.

I noticed on comments on the Instagram account (which has the last post in March 2021) people were asking "What happened?" so is the company even still around or has it gone?

Same with Syndrome Dist companies in general, which might have gone under, the individual brands going elsewhere or just doing it themselves, but Lurkville is still very active in posts and info.

Anyone got any more info on that?

*** As if someone knew, there is a new post from Syndrome Dist just now for wheels, so maybe production and supply issues have been the problem, as per other places who are struggling to get product still.

These looked like Clutch, from the top stamp area when zoomed in but I could be wrong.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIWVwn3FAuv/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 22, 2021, 05:03:52 AM

Sour no longer under HLC? Was just checking HLC IG and you don't see Sour on their bio.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 22, 2021, 06:27:33 AM

Quote from: moonordie on September 22, 2021, 05:03:52 AM

Sour no longer under HLC? Was just checking HLC IG and you don't see Sour on their bio.

You might need to message them to ask who they are using for wood.

This was from six weeks ago:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSJ_KCiDs4i/

I don't recall seeing it on there from looking at the various HLC websites, but I guess it could have been.

Looking back over two years on their Instagram and I cannot find one mention of anything other than the other brands they had listed, even Habitat back in 2019 from this post, but no Sour (unless we had it wrong and they were Dwindle or something else like that all along) but who knows.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0f1m5yA6tu/

Our stock is full of freshies! Go to our B2B to check the summer collections!

#jartskateboards
#cruzadeskateboards
#flipskateboards
#sovrnskateboards
#habitatskateboards
#sk8mafia
#hlcdistribution

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 22, 2021, 06:54:24 AM

Quote from: moonordie on September 22, 2021, 05:03:52 AM

Sour no longer under HLC? Was just checking HLC IG and you don't see Sour on their bio.

They might be one of those brands that just don't want the association displayed and have kept the rights to their product for their own sale and distribution, while still getting boards done there too, given all the other info that points clearly to their boards coming from there right up until recently, it seems.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 22, 2021, 07:26:06 PM

Just adding this here from WBSWB thread.

Might be my new favourite site for board info, pics, etc.

https://www.slamcity.com/collections/deck

Quote from: Skibb on September 22, 2021, 06:17:27 AM

Has this been posted? Lovenskate 9" football shape, with a 14" wheelbase: https://lovenskate.com/shop/skateboards/on-your-bike-boris/

I don't recall seeing much at all of Lovenskate as a brand.

Woodshop list has it as Pennswood, but all their boards I have looked up have short wheelbases, eg:

https://lovenskate.com/shop/skateboards/drink-tea-football-shape-by-igor-marques/

An 5 colour screen print on the finest boards direct from Pennswood.

9″ with a 14″ Wheelbase.

https://www.slamcity.com/products/lovenskate-88-jordan-tea-party-skateboard-deck

• Lovenskate Jordan Thackeray Pro skateboard deck
• Assorted wood stains
• Width 8.8"
• Length 31.75"
• Wheelbase 14"
• Concave Medium

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/lovenskate-deck-lovenskate-8-8-jordan-tea-party-skateboard-deck-28312083038278_960x960_crop_center.jpg?)

More here too (always good pics of top and bottom, full info, etc which is rad to see):

https://www.slamcity.com/collections/lovenskate

Not sure how much coverage they get in US or places other than England though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 23, 2021, 02:32:48 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 22, 2021, 06:54:24 AM

Quote from: moonordie on September 22, 2021, 05:03:52 AM
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Sour no longer under HLC? Was just checking HLC IG and you don't see Sour on their bio.
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They might be one of those brands that just don't want the association displayed and have kept the rights to their product for their own sale and distribution, while still getting boards done there too, given all the other info that points clearly to their boards coming from there right up until recently, it seems.

this

HLC lists brands that are pressed AND distributed throught them

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 23, 2021, 03:04:35 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 23, 2021, 02:32:48 AM

HLC lists brands that are pressed AND distributed throught them

Thank you!

You might be able to help with some more info I am sifting through, from that UK shop.

Quite a few UK / European brands I don't have in the main list.

Wayward (UK) - Control
Yes Fam (UK) - Control

Yardsale (UK) - BBS

Thames MMXX (UK) - Dwindle

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Pop Trading Company (from Amsterdam) - says Made in Germany - anyone have any more info on that?

Clown (UK) - unknown, maybe HLC

Isle (USA is Generator as per stickers) but it looks different in the UK shop, maybe HLC as well, being similar look to other HLC decks there.

Any corrections to these, or others that are not on the list please let me know.

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 23, 2021, 11:52:38 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 23, 2021, 03:04:35 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 23, 2021, 02:32:48 AM
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HLC lists brands that are pressed AND distributed throught them
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Thank you!

You might be able to help with some more info I am sifting through, from that UK shop.

Quite a few UK / European brands I don't have in the main list.

Wayward (UK) - Control
Yes Fam (UK) - Control

Yardsale (UK) - BBS

Thames MMXX (UK) - Dwindle

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Pop Trading Company (from Amsterdam) - says Made in Germany - anyone have any more info on that?

Clown (UK) - unknown, maybe HLC

Isle (USA is Generator as per stickers) but it looks different in the UK shop, maybe HLC as well, being similar look to other HLC decks there.

Any corrections to these, or others that are not on the list please let me know.

Thanks!

I only know of two board manus in Germany, but I think there must be more.

One of them is MDCN and the other is Quarter Distribution.

https://www.instagram.com/mdcndist/
https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: cosmicgypsies on September 23, 2021, 02:39:25 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 23, 2021, 03:04:35 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 23, 2021, 02:32:48 AM
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HLC lists brands that are pressed AND distributed throught them
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Thank you!

You might be able to help with some more info I am sifting through, from that UK shop.

Quite a few UK / European brands I don't have in the main list.

Wayward (UK) - Control
Yes Fam (UK) - Control

Yardsale (UK) - BBS

Thames MMXX (UK) - Dwindle

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Pop Trading Company (from Amsterdam) - says Made in Germany - anyone have any more info on that?

Clown (UK) - unknown, maybe HLC

Isle (USA is Generator as per stickers) but it looks different in the UK shop, maybe HLC as well, being similar look to other HLC decks there.

Any corrections to these, or others that are not on the list please let me know.

Thanks!

Clown 8.25s have the same dims as some Sour 8.25s. As odd of a comparison as this is, the top ply dyes and laser etching job on Isle also look very similar to Sour.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 23, 2021, 08:50:52 PM

Has anybody tried the crail G050 shape? Is there any taper towards the tail or is it 8.25 throughout the whole deck?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 24, 2021, 10:50:17 AM

Anyone know where CCS gets their decks from? I'm feeling nostalgic for this kooky flame deck I had back in the day.

https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red (https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red)
(https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/550x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/c/c/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red-1.1624489692.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 24, 2021, 10:56:11 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on September 24, 2021, 10:50:17 AM

Anyone know where CCS gets their decks from? I'm feeling nostalgic for this kooky flame deck I had back in the day.

https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red (https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red)
(https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/550x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/c/c/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red-1.1624489692.jpg)

I've had several CCS customs, PSSTIX, PRIME, and one unstamped that I ASSUME was clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 24, 2021, 11:07:51 AM

Quote from: TwisT on September 24, 2021, 10:56:11 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on September 24, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
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Anyone know where CCS gets their decks from? I'm feeling nostalgic for this kooky flame deck I had back in the day.

https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red (https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red)
(https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/550x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/c/c/ccs-flames-skateboard-deck-black-red-1.1624489692.jpg)
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I've had several CCS customs, PSSTIX, PRIME, and one unstamped that I ASSUME was clutch.

Oh okay nice, I was looking at other decks listed with multiple pics that had 2 or 3 stained plys, so I assumed they couldn't be that bad. As long as they're not just cheap china wood I might take a chance for $40.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on September 24, 2021, 11:18:39 AM

Found who makes them now. Anno Domini Skateboards MFG in Colorado.

https://instagram.com/adskateboards?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on September 24, 2021, 12:02:32 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 16, 2021, 05:57:12 PM

OK Boomer just got one from Kinetic shop, as per this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82832.msg3635697#msg3635697

From the Skate Shit you've Bought Recently thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82832.6930

Found this post from Uprise shop that has the third pic with top shots, so not sure if the red maple leaf on black background is just a sticker by an unknown woodshop, or if it is from Control, as I thought they had red leaf on white sticker previously.

*** I know there are not many woodshops in Canada, but just wanted to make sure.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTVQIrJJZJO/

Just wanted to confirm Control is indeed using these black/red stickers on their recent product.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 24, 2021, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 23, 2021, 08:50:52 PM

Has anybody tried the crail G050 shape? Is there any taper towards the tail or is it 8.25 throughout the whole deck?

The Girl Deck Shapes might have more info for you:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.0

From what I can see the G050 has quite a few mentions on there, using the search function it comes up with this, which I found most interesting (short tail under 6.5 = too short for one skater) but this is what I pulled from that thread.

G050 - 8.25" X 32" (More tapered/pointier) 14.41 wb

Someone mentions that shape was discontinued.

Quote from: Esmith5488 on October 26, 2019, 02:03:46 PM

Quote from: rubbery vagina on October 26, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
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Grabbed a G050 deck last week not realizing the tail was so small at 6.3" with the longer WB. Not sure I like the small tail.. it's noticeably harder to stay locked into tail slides without slipping out, and feels like not enough room on the tail when popping.. I'm starting to figure it out but I really want to try the G052 next. I'll try the slower pop someone mentioned above lol. Wish I would have gotten the 52 in the first place.

Anyone tried the G052? The specs look really good
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If the 52 is the one that’s like 8.25 with a 14” wheelbase but a little longer than the other 8.25 yeah I’ve had a few of them and really liked the shape, if I recall the nose was a little bigger but was good

I think they put a lot of maltos graphics on that shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on September 24, 2021, 07:03:15 PM

does dwindle refuse to press square shaped boards or am i blind?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sacha on September 25, 2021, 01:51:14 AM

I think Madness is the only Dwindle brand with more experimental shapes. Check out the Dwindle catalogues:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g5uvxluu69opczo/AADbTCLgGppxMBJ-CQOUSrwla/-Catalogs-?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 25, 2021, 02:27:34 AM

Quote from: off on September 24, 2021, 07:03:15 PM

does dwindle refuse to press square shaped boards or am i blind?

Do you mean full shaped popsicles, or do you mean shaped boards, eg old school, shovel, pointed nose, squared tail, etc?

From the Dwindle list on page 1, I have left all those that I have seen shaped boards from over the years.

Dwindle(DSM):
Almost
Blind
Cliche
Creature*
Enjoi
Evisen
Into the Wild
Madness
New Deal* Reissues
Nomad Skateboards
Santa Cruz*
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU)
Zero* (EU/Asia) -2020

These guys might be the least known of that lot, Into The Wild Skateboards:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5V47fl0hS/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 25, 2021, 03:50:35 AM

** Yet to update with all this new info, but will in coming days, hopefully with some more questions answered from board brands replies.

Confirmed HLC make Isle and a few others for the EU market.

Also didn't know some Frog boards are PS Stix, mainly in the shaped versions, as per the Big Boards thread, then checked. All the normal popsicles are BBS / Generator.

Nice that these guys try to list the manufacturer of decks in all their listings.

https://www.highrollersdublin.com/

https://www.highrollersdublin.com/decks-1/frog-pat-gallagher-crazy-dream-deck-96

Quote from: RottenToTheCore on September 25, 2021, 03:10:44 AM

Thinking of picking this board up soon
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820028919822155819/891265073832681512/image0.webp)

width: 9.6"
length: 32.125"
wheelbase: 14.75"
nose: 6.5"
tail: 6.625"

Anyone skated it before? How is it?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on September 25, 2021, 06:55:37 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 25, 2021, 02:27:34 AM

Quote from: off on September 24, 2021, 07:03:15 PM
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does dwindle refuse to press square shaped boards or am i blind?
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Do you mean full shaped popsicles, or do you mean shaped boards, eg old school, shovel, pointed nose, squared tail, etc?

From the Dwindle list on page 1, I have left all those that I have seen shaped boards from over the years.

Dwindle(DSM):
Almost
Blind
Cliche
Creature*
Enjoi
Evisen
Into the Wild
Madness
New Deal* Reissues
Nomad Skateboards
Santa Cruz*
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU)
Zero* (EU/Asia) -2020

These guys might be the least known of that lot, Into The Wild Skateboards:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5V47fl0hS/

snowboard shaped popsicles, fa/quasi like shapes
dwindle fumbling the sack as far as i see it

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 25, 2021, 05:35:43 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on September 23, 2021, 11:52:38 AM

I only know of two board manus in Germany, but I think there must be more.

One of them is MDCN and the other is Quarter Distribution.

https://www.instagram.com/mdcndist/
https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/

Been looking through some other things and old Woodshop threads, which say the MDCN decks (and most likely the other ones there too) were from Excel factory in China, which makes sense. Nothing wrong with them, decent wood, good boards, etc. They are both distributors who buy in bulk blanks, which is different to those places that manufacture their own boards on site.

Besides popsicles, they have come out with these shaped boards, which all look pretty good.

Also now figured out where those size stickers come from too. Thank you @fs1/2cab

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTwYK98sCsI/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRTo3HDl92y/

Also Housewife Skateboards use BBS for these boards:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRh0MyMFWaF/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MaXX_I-D on September 28, 2021, 04:24:42 AM

I’ve been looking at a dgk 7.75 w/ a 14.5 wheelbase does anyone know what the actual length of the deck is? I’m seeing 31.25, but I’m not sure if it’s right. Short deck long wheelbase sounds Interesting. Does anyone have experience with it or something similar(width doesn’t really matter as long as it’s under 8.25)?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on September 28, 2021, 11:11:00 AM

Quote from: MaXX_I-D on September 28, 2021, 04:24:42 AM

I’ve been looking at a dgk 7.75 w/ a 14.5 wheelbase does anyone know what the actual length of the deck is? I’m seeing 31.25, but I’m not sure if it’s right. Short deck long wheelbase sounds Interesting. Does anyone have experience with it or something similar(width doesn’t really matter as long as it’s under 8.25)?

I think it's probably 31.5 via the DGK website: https://dgkallday.com/products/tuner-williams-7-75-skateboard-deck (https://dgkallday.com/products/tuner-williams-7-75-skateboard-deck)
7.75" Width x 31.5" Length / 14.5" Wheelbase
Skatedeluxe lists nose: 6.625"; tail: 6.125".

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on September 28, 2021, 01:01:52 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 25, 2021, 05:35:43 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on September 23, 2021, 11:52:38 AM
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I only know of two board manus in Germany, but I think there must be more.

One of them is MDCN and the other is Quarter Distribution.

https://www.instagram.com/mdcndist/
https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/
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Been looking through some other things and old Woodshop threads, which say the MDCN decks (and most likely the other ones there too) were from Excel factory in China, which makes sense. Nothing wrong with them, decent wood, good boards, etc. They are both distributors who buy in bulk blanks, which is different to those places that manufacture their own boards on site.

Besides popsicles, they have come out with these shaped boards, which all look pretty good.

Also now figured out where those size stickers come from too. Thank you @fs1/2cab

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTwYK98sCsI/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRTo3HDl92y/

Also Housewife Skateboards use BBS for these boards:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRh0MyMFWaF/

The only woodshop in Germany i know is egal skateboards.
https://egal-skateboards.de/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 28, 2021, 09:22:08 PM

Quote from: WavyDavy on September 28, 2021, 01:01:52 PM

The only woodshop in Germany i know is egal skateboards.
https://egal-skateboards.de/

Sweet!

I hadn't seen or heard of them at all, that I know of.

Wood looks pretty good too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5OWK8bo3BT/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwR3uYalhUc/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on September 29, 2021, 12:20:41 AM

Current batch of Fortress boards are out of AD woodshop, the last batch of "The Bound" graphics are out of Clutch but have since moved to AD.

Anyone tried their wood yet?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 29, 2021, 06:16:50 AM

Quote from: off on September 25, 2021, 06:55:37 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 25, 2021, 02:27:34 AM
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Quote from: off on September 24, 2021, 07:03:15 PM
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does dwindle refuse to press square shaped boards or am i blind?
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Do you mean full shaped popsicles, or do you mean shaped boards, eg old school, shovel, pointed nose, squared tail, etc?

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snowboard shaped popsicles, fa/quasi like shapes
dwindle fumbling the sack as far as i see it

Looked at all options and no I cannot find one board that is a full shape like those brands on PS Stix or the FA/Hockey type boards.

Curious isn't it, but how many woodshops do actually do that style of board, besides PS Stix and BBS?

I seem to recall Clutch / ASF did something like a Full shape, but it still wasn't anything like that.

* Only modern boards in that question. Not counting the old / reissue Barnyard shaped board either, but could that have been one of the first of that sort of shape?

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ScaHoXujL._AC_.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 29, 2021, 06:36:44 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on September 29, 2021, 12:20:41 AM

Current batch of Fortress boards are out of AD woodshop, the last batch of "The Bound" graphics are out of Clutch but have since moved to AD.

Anyone tried their wood yet?

I kept thinking I had seen a few mentions and sure enough I have.

@El Chupacabra was going to sample some (Woodshop page 10)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3578023#msg3578023

@TheLowerBack

Fortress is his brand, which as stated is now on them and has skated a few of them, links to earlier posts in this thread and his board in the setup thread.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3597669#msg3597669

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3642113#msg3642113

Sure I saw more, but cannot bring up anything else right now, from searches, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 30, 2021, 02:50:53 AM

i don't know if it's already been mentionned

I spotted that quarterdist sticker on some Poetic collective boards (Summer 21)
And on some Magenta team boards during Summer 20 when it was tricky to get boards pressed at BBS (their usual woodshop).

Might consider Quarter Dist for a batch of shop boards, any feedback welcome !

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on September 30, 2021, 05:37:07 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 30, 2021, 02:50:53 AM

i don't know if it's already been mentionned

I spotted that quarterdist sticker on some Poetic collective boards (Summer 21)
And on some Magenta team boards during Summer 20 when it was tricky to get boards pressed at BBS (their usual woodshop).

Might consider Quarter Dist for a batch of shop boards, any feedback welcome !

quarter is now distributing poetic, but afaik they dont produce them, just print decks. maybe someone knows what woodshop they use?

https://quarterdist.com/production/
https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18120262840195074/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGw2-1OlYpo/
https://quarterdist.com/poetic-collective-en/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 30, 2021, 04:10:30 PM

Copied this from the 14" wheelbase thread.

Thought it was a bit relevant.

Quote from: frontfootimpossible on September 30, 2021, 06:48:34 AM

Quote from: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 28, 2021, 08:59:50 AM
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Quote from: HumBoogie on September 28, 2021, 08:18:42 AM
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I searched this thread and many more, but seem to either be illiterate or not looking hard enough. The 14" wheelbase boards I find in my area are all made in china/ dwindle/ clutch or other subpar wood in my area. Does anyone know of PS stix, BBS, or Generator 8.25" x 14" wheelbase boards with normal popsicle shape? Not into the square nose of FA/ wknd etc.

Thanks internet!
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Primitive my guy
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And April 8.25's.
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Primitive is apparently shopping ±5 woodshops atm, so I'd prefer not to gamble. (Source someone I know is flow for Primitive and has been complaining about the fluctuation in shape/ quality of wood, I think he got 10 boards and they came in 4 different boxes and have different top/ warning stickers from each box)

Do you know what woodshop April uses?

PS stix wood is my favorite, but seems they don't offer any 8.25 x 14" WB anymore. Apparently they used to have quasi boards with that shape?

Any other info you have about Primitive is interesting from a woodshop perspective.

I don't think that April has any plans to change from BBS, but who knows really.

The funny thing is Primitive seems to be all about the margins, so they were just going for the cheapest suppliers when BBS upped their board prices ($1 increase per board makes a pretty big difference when talking about thousands on thousands of decks) but then a number of woodshops have had shortages, so they have had to go back to whatever they could get, hence the shortage of Primitive boards recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Skatebeard on October 01, 2021, 02:06:13 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 23, 2021, 03:04:35 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 23, 2021, 02:32:48 AM
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HLC lists brands that are pressed AND distributed throught them
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Thank you!

You might be able to help with some more info I am sifting through, from that UK shop.

Quite a few UK / European brands I don't have in the main list.

Wayward (UK) - Control
Yes Fam (UK) - Control

Yardsale (UK) - BBS

Thames MMXX (UK) - Dwindle

_________________________________

Pop Trading Company (from Amsterdam) - says Made in Germany - anyone have any more info on that?

Clown (UK) - unknown, maybe HLC

Isle (USA is Generator as per stickers) but it looks different in the UK shop, maybe HLC as well, being similar look to other HLC decks there.

Any corrections to these, or others that are not on the list please let me know.

Thanks!

Clown decks are pressed in the UK by Gnosis MFG.

Gnosis also produce Blast Skates

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: z_tx on October 01, 2021, 06:20:15 AM

got a new Primitive P Rod gold pack 8.25 and it says made in the USA. Any idea what woodshop this comes from? My Primitive decks usually say made in Mexico (BBS)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Chupacabra on October 01, 2021, 08:14:43 AM

Yo so I got a stack of AD blanks I’m screening. Good boards, cool people. They have a few shapes, I went with the mellower concave cause I grew up on flat 90s Girl decks so I’m not a huge concave guy.
I mean, they’re skateboards, they’re made out of maple, aren’t totally wack and I can get them so yeah, it’s a winner.

Clutch fucked a lot of their customers really hard, to the point where I’ve heard they’re rebranding/changing the name to try and wash some of that stain away. Dunno if it’s true, but I wasn’t the only one screwed by shitty business practices.

Edit: pics of the AD mellow 8.5"

Top: (https://i.imgur.com/yI2LCUE.jpg)

tail to nose: (https://i.imgur.com/9HzgdRM.jpg)

And cause Im inherently a self conscious artist seeking constant reassurance, the bottom: (https://i.imgur.com/yuImkA4.jpg)

Sorry bout the messy space. Day job busy. Not much time for skate games.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 01, 2021, 10:46:10 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 30, 2021, 02:50:53 AM

i don't know if it's already been mentionned

I spotted that quarterdist sticker on some Poetic collective boards (Summer 21)
And on some Magenta team boards during Summer 20 when it was tricky to get boards pressed at BBS (their usual woodshop).

Might consider Quarter Dist for a batch of shop boards, any feedback welcome !

I had a few decks from Quarter Dist since they are only 20 minutes away from me. Compared to the usual DLX shapes, those are a bit more mellow and have like one finger of flat before the kicks. I wasn't able to break any of these decks, but the concave wasn't really for me. But good decks nonetheless.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: [email protected] on October 01, 2021, 12:20:03 PM

Hi all,

Just wanted to show my gratitude to Slap and the community on here for showing support and adding us to the list of 2021 woodshops. I had an influx of leads from it and I had no idea where it was coming from until I asked. I just saw a couple clients of mine on here uploading pics of our sample decks and saying good things. Appreciate you all!

Just a little background for whoever is curious:

We ran a small board brand out of a tiny office space in Colorado up until about mid 2020. We had a heat transfer machine and started printing decks for a few other brands. When the board shortage hit, we had 2 options.. Close down and quit while we're ahead or take a massive risk and try manufacturing ourselves. We got lucky and found some equipment from another manufacturer that closed down, and were also lucky enough to bring on some guys at the beginning that were experienced board makers.

After all the craziness across the industry, supply shortages, extended lead times, lack of communication, and rising prices.. We aimed to be the opposite of that, but quickly learned why the other manufacturers were struggling so much. Our veneer supplier cut us off and the glue shortage hit shortly after. It almost put us under and it delayed some of our orders, but we managed to survive through it.

At this point, we have 4 wood suppliers and are only backed up about 22,000 decks with no signs of supply shortages coming back anytime soon. Hoping to catch up by the end of the year and continue to grow! If anyone out there is still struggling to get decks made, we do have some spots open to reserve decks for early next year. We're also looking for potential partners and investors to help us to continue growing. We only have about 10,000 sq feet, but we have room in our building to grow if we lease the space next door. Our vision is to be the biggest manufacturer in the world, we're ready to roll out our expansion plan with robotics, automated lacquer spraying booths, conveyor belts, a 5 axis CNC machine, and the ability to print heat transfers in house with a flatbed UV printer.

Anyway, that went on longer than anticipated. Thanks again to everyone showing love out there! If anyone needs boards or is interested in helping us make this expansion plan happen, hit me up! [email protected] / (805) 236-6528

PS: here's an unlisted link to a little manufacturing edit I'm working on for a new drop we're doing. Check it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zXiofntAK0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 01, 2021, 08:17:11 PM

Quote from: z_tx on October 01, 2021, 06:20:15 AM

got a new Primitive P Rod gold pack 8.25 and it says made in the USA. Any idea what woodshop this comes from? My Primitive decks usually say made in Mexico (BBS)

The two options, re "Made in USA" stickers or branding, include the few woodshops still operating in the USA (Anno Domini being one of them - info above), as per the first page, second post, or as per others I have seen, clearly their boards come from somewhere else in the world and the heat transfer graphic is applied in the USA so then they say they are made in the USA, which is somewhere between not entirely true, to a straight up lie, but who knows, as they are usually bound by secrecy and the woodshops in question would most likely not give much information either.

If you are familiar with the concaves of certain woodshops, you could make an educated guess as to which woodshop, along with any markings on the deck itself (not so much the "Made in..." sticker, but even that might be of interest if you could take pics and post here for everyone to see, as per others posting info in this thread.

It all helps and is of interest to see.

Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 02, 2021, 08:41:03 PM

Some unique size stickers from a recently added woodshop:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8tnCriIC-i/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM

Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on October 03, 2021, 07:26:40 AM

Quote from: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM

Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.

last one i had was ps stix, it was around april or may

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 07:46:36 AM

Quote from: roba on October 03, 2021, 07:26:40 AM

Quote from: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM
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Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.
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last one i had was ps stix, it was around april or may

Hmm ok, thanks for that. I've emailed the shop to ask, the shape and dimensions really good. Hopefully they are using BBS now, the last PS boards I have had have been so hit and miss.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 03, 2021, 08:05:02 AM

Quote from: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM

Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.

The cheap looking all natural ply I saw had "Made in China" on them, but that was not the most recent stock.

If they have Mexico on them, they are most likely BBS, as per all AWS and Habitat decks from more recent drops that have come out here, but that might not be the same as other areas around the world.

Any other info, including their reply or a link to the listing would also be good to see.

Quote from: roba on October 03, 2021, 07:26:40 AM

last one i had was ps stix, it was around april or may

Where was that bought from and do you know if it was a current deck or old stock?

Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 08:15:00 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 03, 2021, 08:05:02 AM

Quote from: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM
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Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.
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The cheap looking all natural ply I saw had "Made in China" on them, but that was not the most recent stock.

If they have Mexico on them, they are most likely BBS, as per all AWS and Habitat decks from more recent drops that have come out here, but that might not be the same as other areas around the world.

Any other info, including their reply or a link to the listing would also be good to see.

Quote from: roba on October 03, 2021, 07:26:40 AM
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last one i had was ps stix, it was around april or may
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Where was that bought from and do you know if it was a current deck or old stock?

Thanks.

Here's the link - https://www.freedomskateshop.at/de/skate/skateboard/decks/alien-workshop-visitor-8-75-deck

Laser etched Workshop logo between upper holes, other than that can't see anything telling.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 08:22:10 AM

I think it could be BBS because in the deck description of Quasi boards on the site for instance, they name PS, but for other BBS pressed boards like Hockey they just say made in Mexico like the AWS. Will report back when I receive a reply.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: z_tx on October 03, 2021, 12:07:56 PM

i've skated 5 or 6 AWS/Habitat decks within the past year and they were all bbs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 03, 2021, 12:17:24 PM

First of all, I am sorry to bring that up again.

I ordered my AWS decks at that shop too, and they all had a made in china sticker on it. Check the barcode. The top looked like that, even with that regrowth laser stamp or however that is called, which I only knew from Dwindle:

(https://i.imgur.com/TLw26v0.jpeg)

AWS in Europe is confusing. But the deck was awesome.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2021, 06:34:04 PM

Quote from: z_tx on October 03, 2021, 12:07:56 PM

i've skated 5 or 6 AWS/Habitat decks within the past year and they were all bbs

Prior to 2020 they were BBS, probably at the height of the pandemic they shifted to Dwindle (hence the regrowth logo), but now it's back to BBS.

Just my suspicion.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 04, 2021, 01:09:18 AM

Heard back from the shop who confirmed they are BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 04, 2021, 02:48:51 AM

It is always nice when someone from a shop does reply with information.

I know some shops are really good with that sort of thing, but some others wouldn't know what you are talking about - one guy in a shop I went into asked "What's the difference?" when I wanted to check out the top of a board to see which woodshop it came from. I tried to help him understand a few little things, but I could see he looked like he just didn't want to know or care... That shop did sell scooters though, so no big deal there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FrozenIndustries on October 04, 2021, 06:50:50 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on October 03, 2021, 12:17:24 PM

First of all, I am sorry to bring that up again.

I ordered my AWS decks at that shop too, and they all had a made in china sticker on it. Check the barcode. The top looked like that, even with that regrowth laser stamp or however that is called, which I only knew from Dwindle:

(https://i.imgur.com/TLw26v0.jpeg)

AWS in Europe is confusing. But the deck was awesome.

Is it just me or do the DSM-pressed Alien boards look a little less boxy than the North American versions? Makes me want one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on October 05, 2021, 03:37:34 AM

I have an AWS from here in Australia of recent times - is BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 05, 2021, 06:37:22 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on October 05, 2021, 03:37:34 AM

I have an AWS from here in Australia of recent times - is BBS

How is yours, after those other boards you weren't so keen on?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Chatbot on October 07, 2021, 07:18:37 AM

Not sure if this has been posted but I wish more brands had a shape directory like Crailtap,

https://crailtap.com/shapes

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on October 07, 2021, 07:21:19 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 03, 2021, 08:05:02 AM

Quote from: juniormint on October 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM
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Sorry if it has been answered already, but does anybody know if the non price point euro Alien Workshop boards are BBS or PS? The ones I am seeing are made in Mexico. Any help greatly appreciated.
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The cheap looking all natural ply I saw had "Made in China" on them, but that was not the most recent stock.

If they have Mexico on them, they are most likely BBS, as per all AWS and Habitat decks from more recent drops that have come out here, but that might not be the same as other areas around the world.

Any other info, including their reply or a link to the listing would also be good to see.

Quote from: roba on October 03, 2021, 07:26:40 AM
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last one i had was ps stix, it was around april or may
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Where was that bought from and do you know if it was a current deck or old stock?

Thanks.

i bought it from the polish distributor, which is called monument. it was a spectrum deck, current i believe because all the other graphics they had were still on the aws website back when i bought it. it had that sticker with a stickman falling off a set of stairs (which i thought was a ps thing) and the specs were off, by that i mean that it was listed as longer than it really was. the website said 32.25, i measured it tip to tip and it was about 31.9 or something like that, can't really remember exactly but i'm sure that it felt shorter than 32.25. i know that ps measures their boards with the concave so that would explain the 32.25 length too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on October 07, 2021, 08:53:09 AM

Quote from: Chatbot on October 07, 2021, 07:18:37 AM

Not sure if this has been posted but I wish more brands had a shape directory like Crailtap,

https://crailtap.com/shapes

It is great.

I haven't skated crail ever, but was poking around. Do they use the same concave across shapes? I was just comparing the G053 and G033 shapes. Both are 8.5x32. Are these the same mold with the truck holes drilled in different places? If so, it looks like the G053 would be good on Ace and the G033 on Thunder. Anyone skate both of these?

G053:
8.5" x 32"
Wheelbase: 14.4375"
Nose: 6.875"
Tail: 6.4875"

G033:
8.5" x 32"
Wheelbase: 14.25"
Nose: 6.925"
Tail: 6.625"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on October 07, 2021, 05:38:58 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 05, 2021, 06:37:22 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on October 05, 2021, 03:37:34 AM
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I have an AWS from here in Australia of recent times - is BBS
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How is yours, after those other boards you weren't so keen on?

Honestly, have not skated yet, it's next on the list. I grabbed a WKND (Ps Stix) because Aus Post was taking too long. So far the WKND is holding up pretty well, prob give it another week and then swap over.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 07, 2021, 09:08:50 PM

Quote from: Chatbot on October 07, 2021, 07:18:37 AM

Not sure if this has been posted but I wish more brands had a shape directory like Crailtap,

https://crailtap.com/shapes

Thanks!

Never really looked too hard at Crailtap boards, but that definitely helps with a lot of the information.

Beats going to some online stores that post their own specs (some quite different to the actual measurements) with clear pictures of the top outline as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nekro on October 08, 2021, 02:31:39 AM

I just bought an Alien Workshop deck and it says Made in China which I'm disappointed about - does this need to be added to the list?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 08, 2021, 02:37:38 AM

Quote from: roba on October 07, 2021, 07:21:19 AM

I bought it from the polish distributor, which is called monument. it was a spectrum deck, current i believe because all the other graphics they had were still on the aws website back when i bought it. it had that sticker with a stickman falling off a set of stairs (which i thought was a ps thing) and the specs were off, by that i mean that it was listed as longer than it really was. the website said 32.25, i measured it tip to tip and it was about 31.9 or something like that, can't really remember exactly but i'm sure that it felt shorter than 32.25. i know that ps measures their boards with the concave so that would explain the 32.25 length too.

Thanks!

The PS Stix boards usually have the sticker a bit higher up on the nose, as the area between the bolts always has the laser engraving with the serial number, eg SN # PS 101124-323

If it just had the laser etched AWS logo, it was probably BBS.

Both are made in Mexico.

Quote from: nekro on October 08, 2021, 02:31:39 AM

I just bought an Alien Workshop deck and it says Made in China which I'm disappointed about - does this need to be added to the list?

Are you still in the UK, or the shop was UK based?

Seems the Alien Workshop decks for the USA (and here in AU) are BBS, made in Mexico, but the boards that are in some EU places are a mix of BBS, but also some from China, from Dwindle or other woodshop there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on October 08, 2021, 09:41:32 AM

Just received and can confirm the AWS board I bought from the Austrian shop is BBS. Such a good looking shape, really looking forward to setting it up. Must be the case that there is still old pandemic Dwindle stock floating around.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: al_cvbrera on October 08, 2021, 09:45:50 AM

is it just me or is toy machine wood really bad? i had dashawn jordan’s pro model deck a couple months back and idk if its because the bottom ply wasn’t stained or what, but the wood felt like it was price point wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 08, 2021, 01:34:13 PM

Quote from: al_cvbrera on October 08, 2021, 09:45:50 AM

is it just me or is toy machine wood really bad? i had dashawn jordan’s pro model deck a couple months back and idk if its because the bottom ply wasn’t stained or what, but the wood felt like it was price point wood.

Other people have said much the same thing.

Seems with pandemic issues, things went a bit weird, but again depending on where you are in the world, you might have one of a few different woodshop supplied Toy Machine decks.

People had said (and pics show from US shops) that there were BBS and PS Stix boards, but here in AU, they all have "Made in China" stickers on them and the concaves and shapes were something I would just put back on the shelf / rack and not look back, from the boards I had seen here.

Pics and info here from earlier in this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3589002;topicseen#msg3589002

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3579572;topicseen#msg3579572

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 08, 2021, 08:31:45 PM

Updated the list with a few more I found.

As per some other shops, this one is rad to have board manufacturer on some brands too:

https://www.eastsiderollinskateboards.com/decks

Merde - BBS

Last Day - South Central

Nonexistent - BBS

https://www.instagram.com/p/CT-SEvzPlsw/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MaXX_I-D on October 09, 2021, 09:28:33 PM

Has anyone skated an Ishod 8.0 or 8.25 twin tail and a deck with a 14.38 wb? They’re supposed to be a 14.3 and 14.33 wb so I was wondering if there was actually a noticeable difference.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM

Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 10, 2021, 04:01:35 AM

Quote from: MaXX_I-D on October 09, 2021, 09:28:33 PM

Has anyone skated an Ishod 8.0 or 8.25 twin tail and a deck with a 14.38 wb? They’re supposed to be a 14.3 and 14.33 wb so I was wondering if there was actually a noticeable difference.

It all depends on how particular you are with the wheelbase, along with the concave and feel of the boards, especially given there can be differences in concave between different DLX boards too.

Re different wheelbases, to put into perspective, these are the conversions:

14.3" = 36.32 cm
14.33" = 36.39 cm + .07 cm
14.38" = 36.52 cm + .13 cm / + .2 cm total

So about 2mm is the difference, which might be ever so slight, but can be felt ever so slightly.

If it changes things, I would be inclined to say nothing that a session or two wouldn't fix really, to get your muscle memory used to the change.

From a few boards I have that are much the same, one with 14.25 and most with 14.38 or 14.5 wheelbases, I can definitely feel the difference between the 14.25 and the others (6 mm), but not anywhere near as much between the 14.38 and 14.5 wb (3 mm) boards.

The difference between a normal shape (nose about 6.8 to 7") to a twin with both kicks about 6.5 to 6.6 was more noticeable to me than the different wheelbase.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fhk on October 10, 2021, 04:43:15 AM

Are all Quasi decks band aid shaped?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MaXX_I-D on October 10, 2021, 06:24:44 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 10, 2021, 04:01:35 AM

Quote from: MaXX_I-D on October 09, 2021, 09:28:33 PM
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Has anyone skated an Ishod 8.0 or 8.25 twin tail and a deck with a 14.38 wb? They’re supposed to be a 14.3 and 14.33 wb so I was wondering if there was actually a noticeable difference.
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It all depends on how particular you are with the wheelbase, along with the concave and feel of the boards, especially given there can be differences in concave between different DLX boards too.

Re different wheelbases, to put into perspective, these are the conversions:

14.3" = 36.32 cm
14.33" = 36.39 cm + .07 cm
14.38" = 36.52 cm + .13 cm / + .2 cm total

So about 2mm is the difference, which might be ever so slight, but can be felt ever so slightly.

If it changes things, I would be inclined to say nothing that a session or two wouldn't fix really, to get your muscle memory used to the change.

From a few boards I have that are much the same, one with 14.25 and most with 14.38 or 14.5 wheelbases, I can definitely feel the difference between the 14.25 and the others (6 mm), but not anywhere near as much between the 14.38 and 14.5 wb (3 mm) boards.

The difference between a normal shape (nose about 6.8 to 7") to a twin with both kicks about 6.5 to 6.6 was more noticeable to me than the different wheelbase.

Thanks for the info!

I didn’t even think about the nose.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 10, 2021, 04:59:02 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM

Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5

Have you tried the normal 8.25 DLX shape?

It is 8.25 x 32 with a 14.38 wb and actually feels like a slightly bigger board, without it being that big.

The 8.38 is my go to as I feel like it is way more nimble than the usual 8.5 boards, but apart from the older 8.25 FULL shape which is those exact dimensions you asked about, I don't think there are that many that come up with 14.5 wheelbase - everything else is coming out in shorter wheelbases more often than not nowdays.

I had a look around and didn't see much, but that is not to say that there isn't something out there in those dimensions.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 10, 2021, 10:45:28 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 10, 2021, 04:59:02 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM
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Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5
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Have you tried the normal 8.25 DLX shape?

It is 8.25 x 32 with a 14.38 wb and actually feels like a slightly bigger board, without it being that big.

The 8.38 is my go to as I feel like it is way more nimble than the usual 8.5 boards, but apart from the older 8.25 FULL shape which is those exact dimensions you asked about, I don't think there are that many that come up with 14.5 wheelbase - everything else is coming out in shorter wheelbases more often than not nowdays.

I had a look around and didn't see much, but that is not to say that there isn't something out there in those dimensions.

Yeah the normal 8.25 is likely going to be my fall back option. I had a couple grey eagles before, but I feel like I might lose a little too much off the nose since I want to setup thunder ti’s on them. Probably all in my head I’m sure it’ll work fine lol.

I completely forgot about the non-SE full shapes. I hope they bring that back soon.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 11, 2021, 02:58:05 AM

Quote from: Seventyfuhkinseven on October 10, 2021, 04:43:15 AM

Are all Quasi decks band aid shaped?

Were you meaning very wide / rounded off / stubby looking and not pointy kicks?

Quasi are PS Stix, which seem to have more commonly a big wide nose to tapering stubby tail shape, which is fairly common all round, but I guess some brands will have shapes that people like more or less, compared to a pointy Baker, or a squared FA / Hockey, the Quasi boards seem to be about middle of the road to me, almost like Alien Workshop shapes too.

** I feel like the Real Ishod twin in 8.5 is completely a band aid shape, now I come to think of it **

If you had meant certain other specific shapes, let me know, otherwise most Quasi I have seen that are the same through the middle and are very rounded off at the kicks, as per this pic:

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=QUT2ADK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 06:22:04 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM

Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5

Have you tried Woodchuck Laminates? I have a stack of their 8.5s with 14.5 wb. We've been very impressed with the pop and how much life the boards have after 5-6 weeks of steady riding.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on October 14, 2021, 07:13:38 AM

Anyone know where Halloween Stickers Skateboards got their wood from this drop? I DM'd them but never got a reply.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU5NL6NAQgW/?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 14, 2021, 07:18:54 AM

Quote from: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 06:22:04 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM
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Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5
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Have you tried Woodchuck Laminates? I have a stack of their 8.5s with 14.5 wb. We've been very impressed with the pop and how much life the boards have after 5-6 weeks of steady riding.

That's rad, but he was asking for smaller 8.25 size boards...

How do they measure up for length and wheelbase?

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 07:26:42 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 14, 2021, 07:18:54 AM

Quote from: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 06:22:04 AM
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Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM
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Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5
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Have you tried Woodchuck Laminates? I have a stack of their 8.5s with 14.5 wb. We've been very impressed with the pop and how much life the boards have after 5-6 weeks of steady riding.
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That's rad, but he was asking for smaller 8.25 size boards...

How do they measure up for length and wheelbase?

:)

Yeah I know. I'm not sure about the 8.25 WB, but if he was looking to do a run of boards they would tell him. I'm ordering the rest of my boards from Clutch and one other and those are the only companies I have ongoing dialogue with.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 07:58:28 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 14, 2021, 07:18:54 AM

Quote from: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 06:22:04 AM
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Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM
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Does anyone have leads for a 8.25x32.25 deck with a 14.5 wb? I'm basically looking for a slightly smaller version of the 8.38 DLX shape since that one measures closer to 8.5
[close]

Have you tried Woodchuck Laminates? I have a stack of their 8.5s with 14.5 wb. We've been very impressed with the pop and how much life the boards have after 5-6 weeks of steady riding.
[close]

That's rad, but he was asking for smaller 8.25 size boards...

How do they measure up for length and wheelbase?

:)

Looks like they are 14.25 WB for their 8.25s.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 14, 2021, 04:19:15 PM

Quote from: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 07:26:42 AM

Yeah I know. I'm not sure about the 8.25 WB, but if he was looking to do a run of boards they would tell him. I'm ordering the rest of my boards from Clutch and one other and those are the only companies I have ongoing dialogue with.

Nice.

How's the wait times on getting boards these days?

Is it still already well into 2022 or not quite so much?

Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 15, 2021, 03:10:11 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on October 14, 2021, 07:13:38 AM

Anyone know where Halloween Stickers Skateboards got their wood from this drop? I DM'd them but never got a reply.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU5NL6NAQgW/?utm_medium=copy_link

Did you message the shop or the company on Instagram or other?

https://www.instagram.com/halloween_stickers_skateboards/

You could try the guy who part owns it:

https://www.samcardelfe.com/halloween-sticker-skateboards

They also show decks in KCDC shop, Nocturnal Philly, Labor for starters but it doesn't seem anyone has any other info other than a graphic side pic of the decks and width sizes in the listings, 8, 8.25, 8.3, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75

Labor shop link here anyway:

https://laborskateshop.com/search?q=halloween

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: bighoss34 on October 15, 2021, 08:13:53 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 14, 2021, 04:19:15 PM

Quote from: bighoss34 on October 14, 2021, 07:26:42 AM
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Yeah I know. I'm not sure about the 8.25 WB, but if he was looking to do a run of boards they would tell him. I'm ordering the rest of my boards from Clutch and one other and those are the only companies I have ongoing dialogue with.
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Nice.

How's the wait times on getting boards these days?

Is it still already well into 2022 or not quite so much?

Thanks.

Some are currently taking orders for April 2022. South Central seems quicker.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on October 15, 2021, 11:30:36 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 15, 2021, 03:10:11 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on October 14, 2021, 07:13:38 AM
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Anyone know where Halloween Stickers Skateboards got their wood from this drop? I DM'd them but never got a reply.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU5NL6NAQgW/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Did you message the shop or the company on Instagram or other?

https://www.instagram.com/halloween_stickers_skateboards/

You could try the guy who part owns it:

https://www.samcardelfe.com/halloween-sticker-skateboards

They also show decks in KCDC shop, Nocturnal Philly, Labor for starters but it doesn't seem anyone has any other info other than a graphic side pic of the decks and width sizes in the listings, 8, 8.25, 8.3, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75

Labor shop link here anyway:

https://laborskateshop.com/search?q=halloween

I messaged the deck company. Still no reply though. I might ask the shop for a pic of the top of the deck if they can.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 16, 2021, 05:52:31 PM

Some Australian woodshop links:

Omni Boards
Omni Boards Australia is Australia's oldest still running skateboard manufacturer (30+ years).
www.omnisk8.com.au
https://www.instagram.com/omni_boards/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU_1DvWlBrK/

DpressD Skateboards
Australian🇦🇺Handcrafted 5ply/carbon/basalt /epoxy Glued/ Canadian🇨🇦Rock Maple Skateboards DpressD in a custom concrete mold
Since 2019
dpressdskateboards.bigcartel.com
https://www.instagram.com/dpressd_skateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CF0UZohlv4-/

Cuckoo Skateboards
Brisbane
Since 2018
https://www.instagram.com/cuckoo_skateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiJFSmPHSQB/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lazyskater on October 20, 2021, 08:26:48 AM

Does anybody know what woodshop darkroom uses? The website says made in the USA so I don't think it's BBS anymore

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on October 20, 2021, 10:43:45 AM

Napalm custom is a woodshod/brand from Tampere Finland. They make Canadian maple decks with carbon fiber layers. Supposedly unbreakable and light. Many of my friends have had these and they all say they’re very good. I’ve never had one myself though so I can’t say much about how they are.

https://napalmcustom.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 20, 2021, 04:17:51 PM

Quote from: Lazyskater on October 20, 2021, 08:26:48 AM

Does anybody know what woodshop darkroom uses? The website says made in the USA so I don't think it's BBS anymore

Yes they have always had "Made in USA" and still on BBS, as per the boards I have.

It is just one of those funny things where some brands have "Made in..." but we all know where the woodshop is based so we just smile and nod with a "Yeah ok, whatever"

They are not the only ones by a long shot.

* On the other hand, it is possible that they have sourced other wood, but until anyone else shows a board or has more info, I am going with the smile and nod option on BBS and Made in Mexico boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 20, 2021, 06:35:38 PM

Quote from: Roisto on October 20, 2021, 10:43:45 AM

Napalm custom is a woodshod/brand from Tampere Finland. They make Canadian maple decks with carbon fiber layers. Supposedly unbreakable and light. Many of my friends have had these and they all say they’re very good. I’ve never had one myself though so I can’t say much about how they are.

https://napalmcustom.com/

120 Euros for a boards, definitely don't envy you guys.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on October 20, 2021, 11:12:24 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 20, 2021, 06:35:38 PM

Quote from: Roisto on October 20, 2021, 10:43:45 AM
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Napalm custom is a woodshod/brand from Tampere Finland. They make Canadian maple decks with carbon fiber layers. Supposedly unbreakable and light. Many of my friends have had these and they all say they’re very good. I’ve never had one myself though so I can’t say much about how they are.

https://napalmcustom.com/
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120 Euros for a boards, definitely don't envy you guys.

They’re pricy alright but they’ve got that carbon fiber stuff going on and it’s a small scale production. Normal decks here are around 70-80€ these days.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 21, 2021, 01:29:17 AM

Quote from: Lazyskater on October 20, 2021, 08:26:48 AM

Does anybody know what woodshop darkroom uses? The website says made in the USA so I don't think it's BBS anymore

Just to add on to the previous post, regardless of what they might say on the website or in their marketing material, here is a pic I took of one of the Darkroom decks I have with the BBS sticker, clearly saying Made in Mexico.

This size was unexpected (said 8.75 in the board info) but I am pretty stoked on the actual size here anyway, which is closer to the AH orange eagle 9" and other boards.

(https://i.ibb.co/xgbn499/Darkroom-deck-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rphBW88)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0403/9344/1440/products/contagion_low_pair_1024x1024-DARKROOM_400x.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on October 22, 2021, 03:31:05 AM

euro element boards are hlc i think, they have a laser engraving near the front bolt holes that says "made in europe". i'm not 100% sure if that's hlc though but they are definitely not china made.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on October 22, 2021, 04:43:59 PM

How’s the Passport 8.5” compared to for example Polar and DLX shapes? Wheelbase is apparently 14.5” which I like but other than that, how is it? Short/long, steep/mellow, full/pointy…?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 22, 2021, 05:56:58 PM

Quote from: Roisto on October 22, 2021, 04:43:59 PM

How’s the Passport 8.5” compared to for example Polar and DLX shapes? Wheelbase is apparently 14.5” which I like but other than that, how is it? Short/long, steep/mellow, full/pointy…?

Polar are said to be 8.5 x 32.125 with 14.5 wb, but are a bit shorter, with 14.38 wb if I recall correctly, but I know some people have said it has 14.5 wb which is curious.

I have a Heroin 8.5 with 14.38 wb as well which is a really good shape, about 32.25 long as well.

DLX have three different shapes in 8.5 with some confusion as there is the shorter one at 31.8 with 14.25 wb which is the most common, the normal one which is 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb (which is a little more pointy than the ones below) and another one I haven't seen in a while which is the 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb so a longer one all up.

The Passport 8.5 deck I saw and had a skate on the other day from a guy I know is exactly the same size and shape as the Baker, Element, Black Label and other BBS boards of 8.5 x 32.?? (always say 32 but they are longer) with 14.5 wheelbase and felt really stable and comfortable to ride. Nose about 7.2 and tail about 6.7 when I measured them.

Sorry I have posted this before, but they are a good comparison for the other 8.5 decks as per this post.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 23, 2021, 03:33:35 AM

Quote from: roba on October 22, 2021, 03:31:05 AM

euro element boards are hlc i think, they have a laser engraving near the front bolt holes that says "made in europe". i'm not 100% sure if that's hlc though but they are definitely not china made.

Thanks!

I thought I had them in there somewhere, but it looks like they are only listed under the USA based woodshops, then the Misc China option for EU.

The hardest thing sometimes is the woodshops or brands are so secretive about things, but I am not wanting to cause issues or pry too hard into some things. If they tell someone, or someone knows who is on what, all good and well, but if not, then at least country of origin is a good indicator as to where they come from, along with similar warning stickers, packaging, laser engraving and the feel of a board.

I am also going to copy your post and the others with that really clear pic from the other thread, just to keep some info here as well.

Toy Machine pro models // made in China?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118999.0

Quote from: roba on October 22, 2021, 02:39:56 AM

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funny thing i was about to ask as well...although not Toy Machine. but same family. i'm in KL/SouthEast Asia by the way

(https://i.ibb.co/6wVgCyM/20211018-051408038-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZXtWDfj)

(https://i.ibb.co/52jF51N/20211018-051413731-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jHwRL8c)
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yup same owners! I was actually balancing between getting my TM deck or the Foundation Dakota Scapes pro model. There’s no denying Tum Yeto’s decks have awesome graphics!

If it’s any info to you, my made in China sticker was exactly like that one, but obviously with different measurements.
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i work at a skateshop in poland and the toy machine boards we have in stock have the same stickers and an engraved monster where the foundation logo is

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 23, 2021, 03:55:23 AM

Re: Toy Machine pro models // made in China?

Adding this here too:

It has been an interesting one, especially since distribution changed here, so now many of these brands have a more generic looking wood with "Made in China" on them including Toy Machine, Zero and a few others that I have seen in local shops here in Australia.

The list of "pro brands on Made in China" decks is actually a lot longer than you might think, given many suppliers have found it cheaper / easier or whatever to get boards there for the European and Asian markets, which does include Australia for the most part.

I am a bit disappointed sometimes when the same brands use "Made in Mexico" woodshops for the USA, but whatever else they can get for other markets like here in Australia and then charge the same pro wood prices, but for me personally, that is more down to the feel of the concave in those boards and the fact that I prefer wood from that woodshop based on how the board skates to me, not so much the brand or distribution path it takes to get here.

I guess reading through even the last dozen or so pages of the Woodshop thread might not turn up too much, apart from helping you get confused about some brands, given what seems like swapping from one woodshop to another to back to the first one, or something else entirely, during the last year or so.

The quality of the product seems to be much better overall now than what it has been in the past too, but I don't have any boards that I skate that are from any of the other woodshops. Going by feedback from others, some of the so called cheaper Made in China boards have held up really well and those people like them, so I wouldn't be writing them off so quickly if you already have one in your hands. Paying that much for one is another story, which I am not going to get into here and now, but that $20 deck with a $90 graphic on it is a funny one...

I would be curious to hear how you find the deck, given I have seen lots around but not at all interested in buying one just to see how the current wood feels. I have had a stand on lots of them in other shops and they felt fairly stiff so I would imagine it would hold up well enough, but unless you skate it, it is hard to tell much from a picture or holding it in your hands.

I should probably note here too that the RRP on most boards from USA or Mexico is now well over $140 even if shops often do not put prices up that much, with pricepoint boards still around the $100 to $110 range, so technically they are in the lower price range anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on October 23, 2021, 04:43:48 AM

Maybe interesting for euro pals:
this polish woodshop Locals Skateboard MFG is making boards for some smaller companies like nonconform skates

https://www.instagram.com/locals_skateboards_mfg/

http://www.localsskateboards.com/home/index

Also from poland is nibiru skateboards which seem to be an woodshop
https://www.instagram.com/nibiruskateboards/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2021, 07:27:35 AM

Are Frog’s measurements accurate? They have an 8.38 with a 14.25 WB and that’s pretty rare for BBS I think only the Krooked Manderson shape is similar.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on October 23, 2021, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Roisto on October 22, 2021, 04:43:59 PM

How’s the Passport 8.5” compared to for example Polar and DLX shapes? Wheelbase is apparently 14.5” which I like but other than that, how is it? Short/long, steep/mellow, full/pointy…?

just compared Polar and Passport 8.5", both from most recent drop.

Gated Vase
herrington chain smoker

center of holes wb is actually 14.375" on Polar

overall look: really similar

main differences:
longer wb on Passport ("half a hole", a real 14.5" i would say)
more concave on Passport
tail's slightly less tapered on Passport ("fuller")
tail and nose 1 or 2 Millimeter shorter on Passport (32.125" vs 32.08")

same steepness for kicks

Edit: my bad just saw woodshop perfect post

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2021, 10:39:59 AM

I’ve had both and Polar has less fingers of flat and steeper kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 23, 2021, 04:14:16 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on October 23, 2021, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Roisto on October 22, 2021, 04:43:59 PM
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How’s the Passport 8.5” compared to for example Polar and DLX shapes? Wheelbase is apparently 14.5” which I like but other than that, how is it? Short/long, steep/mellow, full/pointy…?
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just compared Polar and Passport 8.5", both from most recent drop.

Gated Vase
herrington chain smoker

center of holes wb is actually 14.375" on Polar

overall look: really similar

main differences:
longer wb on Passport ("half a hole", a real 14.5" i would say)
more concave on Passport
tail's slightly less tapered on Passport ("fuller")
tail and nose 1 or 2 Millimeter shorter on Passport (32.125" vs 32.08")

same steepness for kicks

Edit: my bad just saw woodshop perfect post

It is always good to get other opinions too, so never just take my word for anything.

At least as you said, the wheelbase is shorter, even if listed as 14.5 they are more like 14.375 which is always interesting.

Better to have more info than less for sure!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on October 24, 2021, 06:22:01 AM

Thanks for the info on the Passport 8.5 guys. Seems like it might work well for me. Maybe I’ll get one in the future. No real need currently as I have way too many boards in my stack. Passport has some nice graphics and I like what they’re doing otherwise too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: skunty on October 25, 2021, 01:12:07 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 22, 2021, 05:56:58 PM

Quote from: Roisto on October 22, 2021, 04:43:59 PM
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How’s the Passport 8.5” compared to for example Polar and DLX shapes? Wheelbase is apparently 14.5” which I like but other than that, how is it? Short/long, steep/mellow, full/pointy…?
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DLX have three different shapes in 8.5 with some confusion as there is the shorter one at 31.8 with 14.25 wb which is the most common, the normal one which is 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb (which is a little more pointy than the ones below) and another one I haven't seen in a while which is the 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb so a longer one all up.

Just chiming in to say I got a 8.5x31.8 Krooked, it seemed small so I finally measured it after a few days and the width was actually about 8.38. Measuring in the shop next time for sure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on October 26, 2021, 09:13:48 AM

when you want to measure the tail and the nose of the board, do you guys just measure from the bolts to the tip? Do you use a rope or a hard ruler? Measure with the curve?

I want to update measurements to my online store.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: z_tx on October 26, 2021, 12:36:28 PM

3 Primtive 8.25s from recent drops
All decks are the same shape but made at 3 different woodshops, one China (?), one Mexico (BBS), one USA (?)
I usually love the bbs primitive decks but pretty disappointed they are using cheaper woodshops now. A homie skated one of the "made in USA" P-Rod decks and it broke within a few hours. Any idea what woodshop the China and USA decks are coming from? Thanks

(https://i.ibb.co/cvfTD4z/Image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Bv861F)
(https://i.ibb.co/3CS0CZK/Image-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQg8Qj2)
(https://i.ibb.co/nrqLCh4/Image-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnN2tS7)
(https://i.ibb.co/sgdQpyw/Image-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zmTbWGR)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sw9dJ77/Image-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5hfn2xx)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 26, 2021, 04:58:56 PM

Quote from: TwisT on October 26, 2021, 09:13:48 AM

when you want to measure the tail and the nose of the board, do you guys just measure from the bolts to the tip? Do you use a rope or a hard ruler? Measure with the curve?

I want to update measurements to my online store.

It is a funny one, but if you have a retractable tape measure, hook it over the end of the kick and then run it down to the middle of the bolts, with the tape measure pressed into the deck.

That seems to be the best way, although I am sure people will have other methods.

The difference between holding it tight to the bolts is about 1/16" or 2mm on a couple of boards I have just done, so it will not change too much, but maybe specify (measured with concave / without concave).

The main difference comes when measuring with the concave on the whole length, when compared to measuring straight across, eg a 31.85 to 32" long deck often measures 32.4 to 32.6" or more when pressed to concave, which is a significant difference - one that often got people when checking PS Stix decks (measured with the concave) compared to others (measured straight across).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 26, 2021, 05:09:20 PM

Quote from: z_tx on October 26, 2021, 12:36:28 PM

3 Primtive 8.25s from recent drops
All decks are the same shape but made at 3 different woodshops, one China (?), one Mexico (BBS), one USA (?)
I usually love the bbs primitive decks but pretty disappointed they are using cheaper woodshops now. A homie skated one of the "made in USA" P-Rod decks and it broke within a few hours. Any idea what woodshop the China and USA decks are coming from? Thanks

No idea on the woodshops used, but how are the concaves on the boards?

BBS is very spoon shaped in the kick department - one that I have seen concave attempted to be copied but never quite turned out the same.

A China one I saw a while back was very flat through the middle but had sharply angled kicks, which didn't seem like any others except maybe a Dwindle "Flat concave, Steep kick" board, but who knows.

Never seen the USA one but there are only a handful of places that make boards, so it would have to be one of those, eg Anno Domini, Pennswood, South Central, Watson, Prime or somewhere else maybe.

* Concaves can change, boards can be made in China or elsewhere and branded USA, or others playing secret squirrels but all this means is you might not get what you want and people are less likely to buy Primitive boards if they are an unknown woodshop if they care about such things.

Also, are those other stickers manufacturing stickers or from the shop you bought them from?

And are these all from shops in USA or other?

Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 01:03:44 AM

Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 27, 2021, 01:14:28 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 01:03:44 AM

Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?

The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 01:21:48 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 27, 2021, 01:14:28 AM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.

Hmm... Ok interesting

The reason I only skate fa/hockey 8" is cos they are the perfect pair with Venture low. it's heavenly. Particularly the hollows.

But I'm sick of paying 20 euros more per deck (more sometimes) than every other brand

I also like their videos etc but I'm not into the brand per se and feel like a douche only skating FA decks lol.

So I heard Alien/habitat shapes are similar. But what I really want to know more is do they pair well with venture lows.

So maybe being more like Quasi is good I dunno

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: JimGeko on October 27, 2021, 05:16:58 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 01:21:48 AM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.
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Hmm... Ok interesting

The reason I only skate fa/hockey 8" is cos they are the perfect pair with Venture low. it's heavenly. Particularly the hollows.

But I'm sick of paying 20 euros more per deck (more sometimes) than every other brand

I also like their videos etc but I'm not into the brand per se and feel like a douche only skating FA decks lol.

So I heard Alien/habitat shapes are similar. But what I really want to know more is do they pair well with venture lows.

So maybe being more like Quasi is good I dunno

wouldn't it be more to do with the wheelbase, fingers of flat between bolts and tail/nose and the steepness of the tail/nose that would make a board work well with venture lows? but that is throwing you into the world of madness where I lived for a number of months until realising I couldn't stand venture lows (or highs) or thunder or ace or tensor mag lights. I ended up skating indy's where I started in the first place.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 07:09:28 AM

Quote from: JimGeko on October 27, 2021, 05:16:58 AM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.
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Hmm... Ok interesting

The reason I only skate fa/hockey 8" is cos they are the perfect pair with Venture low. it's heavenly. Particularly the hollows.

But I'm sick of paying 20 euros more per deck (more sometimes) than every other brand

I also like their videos etc but I'm not into the brand per se and feel like a douche only skating FA decks lol.

So I heard Alien/habitat shapes are similar. But what I really want to know more is do they pair well with venture lows.

So maybe being more like Quasi is good I dunno
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wouldn't it be more to do with the wheelbase, fingers of flat between bolts and tail/nose and the steepness of the tail/nose that would make a board work well with venture lows? but that is throwing you into the world of madness where I lived for a number of months until realising I couldn't stand venture lows (or highs) or thunder or ace or tensor mag lights. I ended up skating indy's where I started in the first place.

Pretty much. The Habitat boards I'm looking at have near identical dims to the FA

Reasoning and science aside... I feel like I could still get skanked though ha.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 27, 2021, 07:39:48 AM

Would definitely ride a Habitat / AWS if my every loving stack of boards wasn't increasing that rapidly. Just got some sample blanks in, parks are closed and I'm on home quarantine, at this rate I'll be riding the same board for 2 months!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 27, 2021, 08:33:29 AM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.
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Hmm... Ok interesting

The reason I only skate fa/hockey 8" is cos they are the perfect pair with Venture low. it's heavenly. Particularly the hollows.

But I'm sick of paying 20 euros more per deck (more sometimes) than every other brand

I also like their videos etc but I'm not into the brand per se and feel like a douche only skating FA decks lol.

So I heard Alien/habitat shapes are similar. But what I really want to know more is do they pair well with venture lows.

So maybe being more like Quasi is good I dunno
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wouldn't it be more to do with the wheelbase, fingers of flat between bolts and tail/nose and the steepness of the tail/nose that would make a board work well with venture lows? but that is throwing you into the world of madness where I lived for a number of months until realising I couldn't stand venture lows (or highs) or thunder or ace or tensor mag lights. I ended up skating indy's where I started in the first place.
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Pretty much. The Habitat boards I'm looking at have near identical dims to the FA

Reasoning and science aside... I feel like I could still get skanked though ha.

Gone are the days you could just go into a shop and stand on a board, but if you are still the lucky minority in that regard, go stand on all the boards you can, as that is the best way to see and feel out a deck.

You might even find something else you didn't know about too.

At the very least you could ask the shop for top pics or what it has on the sticker, as I did think there were still some BBS Alien Workshop and Habitat decks in the UK but as I am on the other side of the world, it is all down to what you can find there, or what the shops will share with you, information or pics, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 27, 2021, 12:37:08 PM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 01:03:44 AM

Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?

The AWS and Habitat decks in Europe are mostly made in China. The concave and shape seems to be the same as from BBS. I recently met someone who had a AWS from BBS and it felt exactly the same as mine from China. The nose and tail are definitely full but not as square as Quasi. Another option for you could be Darkroom. They are from BBS, even here in Europe. Very similar shape to AWS and Habitat.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 12:59:53 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on October 27, 2021, 12:37:08 PM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The AWS and Habitat decks in Europe are mostly made in China. The concave and shape seems to be the same as from BBS. I recently met someone who had a AWS from BBS and it felt exactly the same as mine from China. The nose and tail are definitely full but not as square as Quasi. Another option for you could be Darkroom. They are from BBS, even here in Europe. Very similar shape to AWS and Habitat.

Very interesting on Darkroom. Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on October 28, 2021, 12:25:50 AM

I have AWS, FA / Hockey & Darkroom ( All 8.25 )

Fa/ Hocket the fatest, AWS pretty fat too - my AWS is BBS ( Australia ) Kicks are sort of alike but the Hockey has a 14.12 WB compared to AWS of 14.25

But the Darkroom is not really close to AWS in shape

WKND was also really fat with a mellow as kick. Prob almost my favourite deck ( PS Stix - no Ps Stix sog oddly enough )

GX1000 also fat, medium kicks but sogged in 2 weeks ( PS Stix )

Only fat boards I'm yet to try that are on my list atm are the Quasi and the Real Fulls

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 28, 2021, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: RichardBarkley on October 27, 2021, 12:59:53 PM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The AWS and Habitat decks in Europe are mostly made in China. The concave and shape seems to be the same as from BBS. I recently met someone who had a AWS from BBS and it felt exactly the same as mine from China. The nose and tail are definitely full but not as square as Quasi. Another option for you could be Darkroom. They are from BBS, even here in Europe. Very similar shape to AWS and Habitat.
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Very interesting on Darkroom. Thanks

I skated 3 of the 7.875 spectrum decks in a row and they don't hold up well just FYI. I'm not a board breaker by any means, but they razored and chipped faster than anything else I've skated in the last couple years. In regards to the shape, it's very close to perfect imo. Nice wide shovel nose and slightly tapered tail. Not sure if the 8.0s are the same, but I'm sure they're very similar. As a caveat, I'm US based, so the wood is different.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: JimGeko on October 28, 2021, 04:35:53 AM

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Ok so....

Alien Workshop and habitat have different woodshops for EU

Does that mean they are using different shapes then US?

I heard the US shapes are nice and full like FA/Hockey, is that true ?
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The US Habitat / AWS ones I've encountered are full-ish - more like a Quasi instead of shovel like FA/Hockey. Personally find that more appealing that the boxy FA/Hockey shape.
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Hmm... Ok interesting

The reason I only skate fa/hockey 8" is cos they are the perfect pair with Venture low. it's heavenly. Particularly the hollows.

But I'm sick of paying 20 euros more per deck (more sometimes) than every other brand

I also like their videos etc but I'm not into the brand per se and feel like a douche only skating FA decks lol.

So I heard Alien/habitat shapes are similar. But what I really want to know more is do they pair well with venture lows.

So maybe being more like Quasi is good I dunno
[close]

wouldn't it be more to do with the wheelbase, fingers of flat between bolts and tail/nose and the steepness of the tail/nose that would make a board work well with venture lows? but that is throwing you into the world of madness where I lived for a number of months until realising I couldn't stand venture lows (or highs) or thunder or ace or tensor mag lights. I ended up skating indy's where I started in the first place.
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Pretty much. The Habitat boards I'm looking at have near identical dims to the FA

Reasoning and science aside... I feel like I could still get skanked though ha.

Ive never used a FA/Hockey board but I can recommend the habitat boards. the full nose is amazing and also some of their boards are available in different wheel base sizes. I'm riding the DELA dog board with the 14.25 WB with Mindys and its perfect for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sammyz on October 28, 2021, 03:25:38 PM

Anyone try the new girl decks from PS stix?

Noticed that the new love seat is Ps stix…loved the shape but i hated the pressure cracks i got after 1 week. If they dont get pressure cracks im gonna get on girl decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 30, 2021, 04:18:19 AM

Quote from: sammyz on October 28, 2021, 03:25:38 PM

Anyone try the new girl decks from PS stix?

Noticed that the new love seat is Ps stix…loved the shape but i hated the pressure cracks i got after 1 week. If they dont get pressure cracks im gonna get on girl decks.

Hadn't heard or seen anything, but any other info is appreciated.

Did you see them in person or a listing or pic somewhere?

All (almost all) Girl and Chocolate boards have been from China, with only the one series of a few boards being on PS Stix from a while back that I know of - that one with the fist and another one I cannot recall right now - but any links, pics or other info is always appreciated.

Thanks.

* I was waiting for anyone else to say something, but it seems no one did earlier.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sammyz on October 31, 2021, 02:49:09 AM

I was looking at local shops website and they list most of their new girl decks as made in mexico at ps stix…for reference:

https://www.basementskate.com.au/girl-skateboard-deck-contemplation-9.0-bannerot/

https://www.basementskate.com.au/girl-skateboard-deck-blooming-8.375-pacheco/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sila on October 31, 2021, 03:23:24 AM

Does Dwindle have any shapes close to the fuller Real/DLX/BBS shapes but not square? I can't get to a shop to see anything and the last R7 I had was a bit too tapered at the tail for my liking.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Basingstoke on October 31, 2021, 09:07:06 AM

I am moving back to the UK next week and wondered who was still pressing boards in the UK, if at all.

A Third Foot has sadly bitten the dust, Gnosis is a new one who else is there ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on October 31, 2021, 02:04:15 PM

Quote from: Sila on October 31, 2021, 03:23:24 AM

Does Dwindle have any shapes close to the fuller Real/DLX/BBS shapes but not square? I can't get to a shop to see anything and the last R7 I had was a bit too tapered at the tail for my liking.

Dwindle has “full concave” boards with no taper. I’d say look at one of the catalogs on their site to see which ones are labeled as full.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 31, 2021, 03:29:50 PM

Quote from: sammyz on October 31, 2021, 02:49:09 AM

I was looking at local shops website and they list most of their new girl decks as made in mexico at ps stix…for reference:

https://www.basementskate.com.au/girl-skateboard-deck-contemplation-9.0-bannerot/

https://www.basementskate.com.au/girl-skateboard-deck-blooming-8.375-pacheco/

It seems to have all Girl boards listed as PS Stix, even the Pop Secret ones (which cannot be as PS Stix does not do carbon stuff) so I would either go in to check them out in person or ask for a top pic before going ahead with them, if you were super keen on a PS Stix board.

That said, a lot of people like the newer Girl / Chocolate wood, so you might have a better board from Dalian Hauhong than from Mexico there, going by how much others don't like what is coming out on PS Stix lately too, but who knows.

Sure would be interesting to know either way, but given everyone else has China made Girl decks, it might be a long shot.

As a reference, I have seen this board in a Brisbane shop and it was definitely not PS Stix (but that is not to say that others are not).

https://www.basementskate.com.au/girl-skateboard-deck-future-og-8.125-bennett/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 31, 2021, 05:21:34 PM

A line of conversation from another thread, Girl still made in China...

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Bought the Chris Roberts twin tail deck eight and a quarter and it is f****** awesome
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I think I read somewhere that those are are pressed at PS Stix. Do you know if that info is correct?
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They're not.
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Probably a select few pro models (Jeron Wilson BLM and maybe Chris Roberts Twin Tail) but the rest of the boards are still done in China from what I recall
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Unless they switched to PStix after the proff called out the Crob's crail twin proto not being symmetrical on the 9club, they'd still be made in china.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 31, 2021, 05:40:38 PM

Quote from: Basingstoke on October 31, 2021, 09:07:06 AM

I am moving back to the UK next week and wondered who was still pressing boards in the UK, if at all.

A Third Foot has sadly bitten the dust, Gnosis is a new one who else is there ?

I didn't even know about A Third Foot (just added to the list even though they have closed) but there is minimal knowledge of any other UK based woodshop.

Gnosis seems to be the only one still around, but other people might know more and then I can add any others to the list as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: iw0 on October 31, 2021, 08:10:43 PM

got the itch to replace a zero deck of my youth, i had a 7.75 that always felt awesome. but it was a while back and i'm pretty sure they've changed woodshops and are on clutch now and were on bbs before that it looks like? how are they feeling these days vs before i guess is what i'm asking

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on October 31, 2021, 08:46:36 PM

Quote from: iw0 on October 31, 2021, 08:10:43 PM

got the itch to replace a zero deck of my youth, i had a 7.75 that always felt awesome. but it was a while back and i'm pretty sure they've changed woodshops and are on clutch now and were on bbs before that it looks like? how are they feeling these days vs before i guess is what i'm asking

Clutch wood post pandemic is awful. I feel like the QC is not there and are skipping corners somewhere

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 31, 2021, 10:29:42 PM

Quote from: iw0 on October 31, 2021, 08:10:43 PM

got the itch to replace a zero deck of my youth, i had a 7.75 that always felt awesome. but it was a while back and i'm pretty sure they've changed woodshops and are on clutch now and were on bbs before that it looks like? how are they feeling these days vs before i guess is what i'm asking

I think it also depends on where you are and how old the board is you are looking at.

Things have changed a whole lot, all over the world, with many appearing to be Dwindle or made in China in many places, one even said to be that in the US, (but still not sure on that one), but you can ask where it comes from and the shop should be able to tell you, even if it has a "Made in..." sticker that would help.

Any of those boards could last well enough if you don't go through boards that quickly though, with more emphasis being on the concaves of the different woodshops, but it is a bummer when any board goes soggy sooner rather than later.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: iw0 on November 01, 2021, 10:37:22 AM

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got the itch to replace a zero deck of my youth, i had a 7.75 that always felt awesome. but it was a while back and i'm pretty sure they've changed woodshops and are on clutch now and were on bbs before that it looks like? how are they feeling these days vs before i guess is what i'm asking
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Clutch wood post pandemic is awful. I feel like the QC is not there and are skipping corners somewhere

yeah i didn't even think about QC stuff, that just killed the itch lol thank you

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got the itch to replace a zero deck of my youth, i had a 7.75 that always felt awesome. but it was a while back and i'm pretty sure they've changed woodshops and are on clutch now and were on bbs before that it looks like? how are they feeling these days vs before i guess is what i'm asking
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I think it also depends on where you are and how old the board is you are looking at.

Things have changed a whole lot, all over the world, with many appearing to be Dwindle or made in China in many places, one even said to be that in the US, (but still not sure on that one), but you can ask where it comes from and the shop should be able to tell you, even if it has a "Made in..." sticker that would help.

Any of those boards could last well enough if you don't go through boards that quickly though, with more emphasis being on the concaves of the different woodshops, but it is a bummer when any board goes soggy sooner rather than later.

i'm in the US and the board has gotta be 13ish yrs (plus or minus) old now maybe? still has streetcorner era ventures on it, so i guess youth may have been a bit dramatic. surprisingly it's still pretty snappy for being a beat to hell trunk board

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on November 04, 2021, 04:00:09 AM

Uma just confirmed on Instagram that they are BBS worldwide now. Difficulties in starting the brand were cited as the reason for some of the made in China boards.

Check the comments on this post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV0icPnB8hI/?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 04, 2021, 06:29:19 PM

Quote from: Roisto on November 04, 2021, 04:00:09 AM

Uma just confirmed on Instagram that they are BBS worldwide now. Difficulties in starting the brand were cited as the reason for some of the made in China boards.

Thanks for the post.

Good info right there.

I guess not every brand / account manager would be so forthcoming with information, but it definitely makes me feel like I would be more willing to buy a product from a brand when they are up front and honest about their product information too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 04, 2021, 06:43:48 PM

From the Egg thread, just saw Adored so looked them up, first line on this post:

Skateboards are in stock 8, 8.25 and 8.5. Made by BBS in Mexico.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU71YLFJHDb/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on November 04, 2021, 07:17:03 PM

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Uma just confirmed on Instagram that they are BBS worldwide now. Difficulties in starting the brand were cited as the reason for some of the made in China boards.

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Thanks for the post.

Good info right there.

I guess not every brand / account manager would be so forthcoming with information, but it definitely makes me feel like I would be more willing to buy a product from a brand when they are up front and honest about their product information too.

Definitely. I’ve been hesitant on buying Uma due to the China thing but now I’m quite tempted. They’ve got some nice looking shapes and I quite like their graphics. Team isn’t half bad either. ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 06:17:45 AM

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-charlie-blair-necromancer-skateboard-deck-shape-242-8-x-31-45

Not sure if this is public knowledge but Powell decks are made in China now, even the Pro Models.

I thought it was just Mini Logos and budget completes using Birch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on November 08, 2021, 08:19:04 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 06:17:45 AM

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-charlie-blair-necromancer-skateboard-deck-shape-242-8-x-31-45

Not sure if this is public knowledge but Powell decks are made in China now, even the Pro Models.

I thought it was just Mini Logos and budget completes using Birch.

They moved production of the maple popsicle decks more than a year ago - maybe two?

Some time in the last year they moved production of most of the reissues to Mexico (https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-og-ripper-skateboard-deck-orange-10-x-30-14989)

I believe the Flight boards are still in the US.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 08, 2021, 08:22:38 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 06:17:45 AM

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-charlie-blair-necromancer-skateboard-deck-shape-242-8-x-31-45

Not sure if this is public knowledge but Powell decks are made in China now, even the Pro Models.

I thought it was just Mini Logos and budget completes using Birch.

reissue descriptions say "Made with our partner in Mexico"

Mini logos say "Rock Hard" maple and powell boards "Hard-rock" maple which I imagine are Legally different. Santa cruz and dwindle also use that "Rock Hard" maple discription for their price points.

I do wonder what happened to the US factory. Did they just pack it up and ship it to china?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 08, 2021, 04:16:34 PM

I had better update the woodshop list then.

Is it just a matter of time with all the other major players moving to cheaper places of production, or a sign of things that production and manufacturing in the US is just getting too expensive?

Anyone ask people at the US woodshops what is going on?

Seems to have been pretty quiet lately.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 05:55:41 PM

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-charlie-blair-necromancer-skateboard-deck-shape-242-8-x-31-45

Not sure if this is public knowledge but Powell decks are made in China now, even the Pro Models.

I thought it was just Mini Logos and budget completes using Birch.
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reissue descriptions say "Made with our partner in Mexico"

Mini logos say "Rock Hard" maple and powell boards "Hard-rock" maple which I imagine are Legally different. Santa cruz and dwindle also use that "Rock Hard" maple discription for their price points.

I do wonder what happened to the US factory. Did they just pack it up and ship it to china?

Sounds like it, there's no way Powell / Mini Logo boards are selling fast enough to justify a full scale woodshop in the US.

Maybe just the Flight decks.

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-flightr-skateboard-deck-8-45-x-31-8

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 09, 2021, 02:37:44 PM

Quote from: TwisT on November 08, 2021, 08:22:38 AM

I do wonder what happened to the US factory. Did they just pack it up and ship it to china?

It was a pretty awesome layout in the tour video from a while back with George.

Seem to recall someone saying they had relocated not too long ago.

Between changing location and upping prices of those reissue boards 22% or whatever it was, seems it takes it up another level of margins and whatever.

Certainly would make some people re think their desire to get the latest colourway of that new reissue they wanted, but for those that are up to their tenth or whatever version of that board, it is no turning back and doing more reissues is just printing money for Powell, which ever way you want to look at it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on November 10, 2021, 01:57:08 PM

SkateOne making shop decks

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWHAiEXBolU/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 10, 2021, 02:17:53 PM

see that's makes since. No way they'd just be using their US facility for light decks alone. Seems like a waste of resources.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 10, 2021, 06:07:59 PM

Quote from: TwisT on November 10, 2021, 02:17:53 PM

see that's makes since. No way they'd just be using their US facility for light decks alone. Seems like a waste of resources.

I don't know, maybe the boards are still pressed in China but screened in the US?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 10, 2021, 06:46:15 PM

Given production could take a while (a few months) these might have been pre move to China, or just the overall number of boards was too much for the small single facility, so like many others, they still have that place to do special runs and whatever they want in smaller quantities, but then have a significantly larger place in China to mass produce their normal range of boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on November 11, 2021, 05:09:02 PM

Primitive has a shape labeled as 8.375 x 31.925 (nose 6.9/tail 6.7/WB 14.2). Dimensions look great, but it can be hard to track down a tolerable graphic. Is anyone aware of other brands using this BBS/Generator shape?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 11, 2021, 07:38:39 PM

Quote from: MxsDx on November 11, 2021, 05:09:02 PM

Primitive has a shape labeled as 8.375 x 31.925 (nose 6.9/tail 6.7/WB 14.2). Dimensions look great, but it can be hard to track down a tolerable graphic. Is anyone aware of other brands using this BBS/Generator shape?

I feel like some of the dimensions listed on sites cannot be trusted, as I have seen a number of boards I would think are BBS in about that size, sometimes listed as 8.375 or 8.38 or even just 8.3 that do have the sub 32 length and shorter overall, but when I just went looking, I couldn't see many.

The usual 8.38 is often the longer board, eg 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb (often listed as 32 length, but always longer wb) whereas the usual 8.375 is more in that shorter size, 31.9 or something similar and shorter wb 14.25 as per some sites.

Brands I seem to recall seeing the dimensions as you had listed on are the newer Element decks, maybe mislabeled some DGK (but the ones I have were the bigger 8.38 boards), a Heroin board but I think that was bigger too.

Others I know have shorter boards in general that I thought I might have seen include 917, April, some Alltimers 8.38s.

They might not have anything decent in graphics (or brands you are interested in) but the graphic can always be removed or covered if you find the right size and shape you want to ride.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 13, 2021, 04:24:46 AM

Re

Zero decks in USA: 2021 are BBS

https://zeroskateboards.com/

Quote from: DarkPools on November 09, 2021, 04:20:48 PM

I did the Zero package...

All three of mine: 8.5" - Wimer "Shallow Grave", Burman "Skeleton", and Black/Green "Ransom"? All three are from recent seasons.

They ALL have a divot and 8.5 lazered in between the nose's mounting holes.

Just a heads up for those going to snag the bailout deal. For the record, the boards feel good after stepping on it: ample concave, good shape: the shape is not super full, nor super pointy either on the 8.5.

Quote from: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on November 09, 2021, 07:43:26 PM

Just checked mine and they have the same punch/size marks that you mentioned and 2 of 3 are still available on the zero site and the other is still in online shops. 2 have a BBS hologram sticker under the shrink and the other has the sticker on the outside of the shrink.

Quote from: GBLange on November 13, 2021, 12:16:58 AM

The latest ones are BBS. one of our local skateshop posted the video of the topside with the BBS sticker on instagram.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 13, 2021, 06:47:50 PM

Woodshop list updated.

Also from the Quasi thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108613.120

It seems some boards are on BBS but yet to hear more, maybe the rest still on PS Stix.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 16, 2021, 05:15:45 PM

I found another woodshop on instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/capetownskates/

Cape Town Skates
Single Pressing : Handcrafted : Eco Spirit : Skateboard Decks : Cape Town Roots : Made on the South Coast UK
Since 2018

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLepOwplNEX/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_14DK-pj38/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 17, 2021, 07:16:58 PM

From another thread.

The board size and info is rather unique.

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44 bucks: https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/element-x-peanuts-roy-x-loy-deck-8-46/ (https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/element-x-peanuts-roy-x-loy-deck-8-46/)

Never skated an Element before, but it was on sale, plus its Peanuts! ;D
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They are BBS and all the Element boards I have were on such a good sale, good shapes, solid wood, etc (just de graphic / painted them and away I went).

Funny about the size though, 8.46 is so random.

Curious if it is about that size, or more likely an 8.5 x 32 with 14.25 wb as stated.
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I'll measure and report back. :) Thank you for your constantly updated "CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY" thread. Makes buying decks online easy. The local shop is text/call to open, and the owner stopped replying to me. So I guess I'm blacklisted. Idk why, but oh well, online shopping will have to suffice.
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The dimensions sound awful close to a Baker B16. I was always curious how similar those Loy Elements were to the Baker shape. I also noticed one of the first Colin Provost Creature decks was the same 8.475x31.875 14.25wb as the B16 though Element and Baker sharing shapes through BBS makes more sense than doing it with Dwindle.
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Reporting back with info, the deck just arrived. Old Skull's listed dimensions are incorrect.

(https://i.imgur.com/tbUjnNfl.png)

I measured the deck, and the imprinted dimensions above are accurate. Fucking cute deck, the snoopy comic on it is adorable. I'm going to feel bad skating it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 18, 2021, 12:40:00 PM

Duffel’s board brand has some interesting shapes and measurements. The 8.38 with the 14wb sounds nice

(https://i.ibb.co/D8TV3CL/919-BC498-13-C3-4-B16-B9-B5-C57-D478-F4722.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D8TV3CL)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 18, 2021, 12:49:57 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on November 18, 2021, 12:40:00 PM

Duffel’s board brand has some interesting shapes and measurements. The 8.38 with the 14wb sounds nice

(https://i.ibb.co/D8TV3CL/919-BC498-13-C3-4-B16-B9-B5-C57-D478-F4722.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D8TV3CL)

He said he tries to find a distributor for Europe if so, I will definitely get the 8.25 × 31.75

Love the Duffman. Duffman skates a lot of things.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 18, 2021, 09:33:11 PM

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He said he tries to find a distributor for Europe if so, I will definitely get the 8.25 × 31.75

Love the Duffman. Duffman skates a lot of things.

They have a good range of sizes all round.

Even a shorter 8.5 90's shape too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 18, 2021, 09:36:08 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTitjvVngWZ/

Glider skateboards, from LA that have regular and twin shapes in 8 and 8.25 sizes.

Info from the Twin thread.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.msg3684082#msg3684082

They have a normal board listed too, which they have info on (below) too, so I wonder if the twin boards are something else.

Were other Chapman boards a bit thicker?

https://gliderskateboards.com/products/deck-03-standard-avalyn

Traditional popsicle shape designed with Chapman Skateboards (Zoo York, Supreme, etc.). Pro quality construction that's made with Canadian 7-ply maple wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on November 18, 2021, 10:49:19 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 18, 2021, 09:36:08 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTitjvVngWZ/

Glider skateboards, from LA that have regular and twin shapes in 8 and 8.25 sizes.

Info from the Twin thread.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.msg3684082#msg3684082

They have a normal board listed too, which they have info on (below) too, so I wonder if the twin boards are something else.

Were other Chapman boards a bit thicker?

https://gliderskateboards.com/products/deck-03-standard-avalyn

Traditional popsicle shape designed with Chapman Skateboards (Zoo York, Supreme, etc.). Pro quality construction that's made with Canadian 7-ply maple wood.

are they actually chapman or clutch screened/transferred at chapman. i miss old chapman decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 18, 2021, 10:55:44 PM

Quote from: pointandclick on November 18, 2021, 10:49:19 PM

are they actually chapman or clutch screened/transferred at chapman. i miss old chapman decks.

Well from what I have heard, Chapman are not pressing boards at all (maybe even got rid of the presses, but I don't know how true that is) so I am guessing they are Clutch, but could also be sourcing boards from China or elsewhere just as easily too.

I had heard another well known woodshop in the USA is importing significantly more boards than they are pressing, just to keep up with demand, but unless someone who is actually there says anything, it is just "he said / she said" passing comments.

Do Clutch press twin shaped boards?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Radim on November 19, 2021, 01:51:10 AM

Zoo York 2021 in EU definitely not from Chapman/ASF - see attached. Thin veneers, very light and not stiff. I am returning the item... in my experience comparable to DSM price point boards from birch.

In 2019 Z.York in EU were real ASF wood, stiff and thick board, I have one in Logo Gold design for winter skating till these days. Heavy pressure cracks, but never lost its pop. Reminds me some old Foundation/Toy Machine decks I had in late 90s.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 19, 2021, 04:19:59 AM

Quote from: Radim on November 19, 2021, 01:51:10 AM

Zoo York 2021 in EU definitely not from Chapman/ASF - see attached. Thin veneers, very light and not stiff. I am returning the item... in my experience comparable to DSM price point boards from birch.

In 2019 Z.York in EU were real ASF wood, stiff and thick board, I have one in Logo Gold design for winter skating till these days. Heavy pressure cracks, but never lost its pop. Reminds me some old Foundation/Toy Machine decks I had in late 90s.

Thanks!

I updated the woodshop listing.

Another one to an "unknown" woodshop, but at least it is known they are made in China.

Also good info on the ASF wood and thickness, etc.

Here in Australia, the only Zoo York boards I have seen all seem to be cheap looking completes, almost like the company has just sold the license and a generic sporting goods company is doing some board branding, but that is the way with many companies nowdays, cheap completes from China, regardless of where the pro boards are made.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on November 20, 2021, 01:55:17 PM

Does anyone know if the wheelbase on the Alltimers 8.3 is 14.25 or 14.5? I’ve seen it listed both ways. Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 20, 2021, 08:58:50 PM

Quote from: MxsDx on November 20, 2021, 01:55:17 PM

Does anyone know if the wheelbase on the Alltimers 8.3 is 14.25 or 14.5? I’ve seen it listed both ways. Thanks!

Yeah it might be a funny one, even checking the size, at 8.3 only or 8.375 or 8.38 which should all be the same, but often end up with different info.

https://www.alltimers.com/collections/boards

Their own site doesn't have any info at all - very helpful - but you could contact them directly to see.

So far a few searches have come up with a 32 length and 14.5 wb, with only one with more info than that, but I am still looking.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/alltimers-johnson-8-3-deck-multi_p145662

width: 8.3"
length: 32"
wheelbase: 14.5"
nose: 6.875"
tail: 6.6"

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alltimers_Zered_Clean_Up_Deck/descpage-ATZCUDK.html

Width - 8.3"
Length - 32"
Wheelbase - 14.5"

Then there is this one:

https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/87846/Alltimers_Zered_Bassett_Clean_Up_Deck

Size 8.3 x 32.125 WB:14.25

https://www.tactics.com/alltimers/zered-clean-up-83-skateboard-deck

SIZE   8.3
WIDTH (IN):   8.3
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.75
TAIL (IN):   6.5

Might be best to contact the shop to check before buying, as it is a fairly even mix overall, as you said 14.25 or 14.5 wb.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 20, 2021, 09:01:16 PM

Quote from: MxsDx on November 20, 2021, 01:55:17 PM

Does anyone know if the wheelbase on the Alltimers 8.3 is 14.25 or 14.5? I’ve seen it listed both ways. Thanks!

Even this one, which is in between...

https://www.tactics.com/alltimers/cedric-johnson-creative-growth-83-skateboard-deck

SIZE   8.3
WIDTH (IN):   8.3
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.375
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.625

https://www.routeone.co.uk/products/alltimers-zered-sticker-skateboard-deck-8-3-001106039

8.3" Wide
32" Long
14.375" Wheelbase

I don't think they would have different sizes / shapes for 8.3 variants, but it is a little confusing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on November 21, 2021, 11:06:51 AM

Thanks for the responses. I dm’d alltimers and will fill you in if/when I hear back and/or if I am able to measure one in person.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 21, 2021, 06:40:32 PM

Quote from: MxsDx on November 21, 2021, 11:06:51 AM

Thanks for the responses. I dm’d alltimers and will fill you in if/when I hear back and/or if I am able to measure one in person.

Like another board brand that uses the same woodshop as Alltimers, I have two decks here of 8.3 size, (actually 8.38 wide) one longer 32.25 with 14.5 wb and one shorter 31.95 with 14.25 wb, so there is a chance they are using two shapes of the same size width as well.

There was very little info on them, besides what I saw when I measured them, which is after I had already bought them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on November 22, 2021, 08:45:07 AM

ISO 775 ish, less than 14 wb. Prefer pgi, ps. Will probably buy a Craig.
If anyone has any suggestions tho, lemme know.
Please.
Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 22, 2021, 09:13:19 AM

MaxAllure is BBS only for team decks but moving their account to there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BugleBites on November 22, 2021, 04:42:35 PM

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but a Primitive rider was just in the shop and said they’re using Pennswood now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 22, 2021, 05:12:24 PM

Quote from: BugleBites on November 22, 2021, 04:42:35 PM

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but a Primitive rider was just in the shop and said they’re using Pennswood now.

Interesting pennswood has some crazy dye jobs. And they we’re sliding in paper thin veneers of other wood on the bottom just give the wood grain look like no other. I wonder if primitive will take advantage of that creativity or will pennswood be able to experiment with such a large client.

Also, wasn’t there a rumor in this thread that primitive bought a wood shop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lou Strux on November 22, 2021, 05:17:14 PM

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Interesting pennswood has some crazy dye jobs. And they we’re sliding in paper thin veneers of other wood on the bottom just give the wood grain look like no other. I wonder if primitive will take advantage of that creativity or will pennswood be able to experiment with such a large client.

Also, wasn’t there a rumor in this thread that primitive bought a wood shop?

Y’all could just ask @pennswood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: manysnakes on November 23, 2021, 09:06:45 AM

Have anyone ever got confirmation of where the Tactics shop decks are produced?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on November 23, 2021, 09:12:45 AM

Quote from: manysnakes on November 23, 2021, 09:06:45 AM

Have anyone ever got confirmation of where the Tactics shop decks are produced?

For years they have been BBS. Haven't heard anything about the new drops in the last 3 months, but I would assume they wouldn't change.

Source : employees in store.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 23, 2021, 05:07:22 PM

Another woodshop to add to the list:

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nonconform skates 10 x 31.25 with a 14.25 wheelbase! Thing of beauty

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sick! i was so tempted to buy one too. but i got too much backlog already and a couple upcoming boards i need to buy too.. but for that price it was so hard to pass.
how is the wood? i'll be getting a Meltdown deck soon thats made in the same woodshop.
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Good wood, perfect shape. I think the will reprint soon , so keep your eyes peeled
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I feel like I know (or should know) but which woodshop makes these?

From their instagram:

“The Pale Horseman“ 10.0 shaped decks are now available! Produced in the Netherlands and screen printed in Germany. Every board is custom stained and one of a kind. Only 30 made. Check the link in bio for orders and more infos.
If your country isn't listed, contact us via DM or mail for individual shipping!

https://www.nonconform-skates.com/product/the-pale-horseman-10-0-shape

Shape and dimensions look really good too!
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Karate Woodchop in Rotterdam did these. but not all Nonconform decks are from there.
its a new company that started last year. still small scale and all done by one man.

http://jeroenvansluis.nl/karatewoodchop/?page_id=515

https://www.instagram.com/karatewoodchop/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE7rBqPJJ6H/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRekcuRFjJM/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
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Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so

https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/

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Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: burm on November 24, 2021, 11:06:42 AM

I had a Pennswood deck years ago from a slap pal’s company Open Skateboards, it was super good. Never seen any of the current brands that use them here in the EU.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on November 24, 2021, 12:42:24 PM

Quote from: burm on November 24, 2021, 11:06:42 AM

I had a Pennswood deck years ago from a slap pal’s company Open Skateboards, it was super good. Never seen any of the current brands that use them here in the EU.

I miss Open. I had two and they were great.
Check out OdessaSexCult if anyone wants Pennswood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 24, 2021, 08:09:25 PM

Been busy, but had some time today.

Updated the listings, some new woodshops, a few changes, etc.

Re speculation over things like Pennswood, I had heard someone else a while back say Primitive was using them which makes sense if there are the "Made in USA" decks, but it is only what I had heard, so not sure whether or not to put it in the listings or not.

I had also seen some brands in local shops here (in Australia) on what seems like totally different wood to what others in the USA or Europe might be, so hopefully I can also add in country or location to some of the listings that have different woodshops for the same brands for different places, mostly brands that come to mind are Zero, Toy Machine, Foundation, Uma (which has been explained) but also not sure if others like Magenta and Isle are still BBS everywhere, or just the ones I saw here, with them being on Clutch or another woodshop in the USA.

It is a curious one, with some people so focused on where something is made, but actually overlooking the quality of the item, or making generalisations about a woodshop, eg all their boards are (insert whatever here) when I feel like some boards will perform differently, from the same stack, from the same batch, etc - one lasts a month, one lasts a day.

I am also not really concerned with single accounts of who broke which board on their first skate or how much longer this woodshop product lasts compared to that one, but at least it is good that people do put up their opinions on product they have used, what they did or didn't like about it, or anything else relating to the Slap Woodshop thread, because after all, we are all skateboarders and all come together here to enjoy talking about skateboards, find info, or whatever else.

If someone had something interesting to share, truth, pics, whatever, it would be awesome to add it to this thread.

I do not ever think I deal in what some might call "conspiracy theories", so although I might suggest something is from somewhere, or people say this or that about wood grain, stains, concave, shapes, dimensions or manufacturing marks and stickers, it is much more difficult to list brands and woodshops correctly for the brands and people if they don't want to tell who is doing what, specifically those who are actually the ones running the companies or making the boards, so if you would like anything corrected, changed or even removed, please let me know and I will be happy to sort it out for you as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on November 24, 2021, 08:45:17 PM

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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
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Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so
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clutch wood?

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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
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Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so
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clutch wood?

Yes, but what about the other brands under them, in particular Isle and Magenta? Any info on whether they are still BBS, or are also on Clutch there now?

Seems like Studio is still Control as the Theories website has "Made in Canada" and Evisen doesn't have a made in so assuming that is still Dwindle as per the listing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on November 25, 2021, 12:05:38 PM

Was this 2hex already mentioned? Anyone knows if they produce for someone?

https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/
https://theberrics.com/2hex-revolutionizing-custom-skateboard-production

Also, there are those 2 Euro woodshops in Poland

https://www.instagram.com/nibiruskateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/locals_skateboards_mfg/
http://www.localsskateboards.com/

Locals makes boards for nonconform skates

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 26, 2021, 02:55:37 AM

Quote from: WavyDavy on November 25, 2021, 12:05:38 PM

Was this 2hex already mentioned? Anyone knows if they produce for someone?

https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/
https://theberrics.com/2hex-revolutionizing-custom-skateboard-production

I had heard 2Hex is actually very expensive from a few people, but only one guy I know has boards from them, through a local brand here, which he says are decent quality and good shapes, but I have never seen any to my knowledge.

Maybe it is more just the very awkward product review by the guy on youtube ads or how their product is marketed, but I feel like my first instinct is to stay well clear of them, thinking they look like a cheap generic version of the good stuff, in the same way sellers on Ali Express or other similar manufacturers have pro brand look alikes with different brand names.

It would still be interesting to hear if anyone has skated their boards, or how they are compared to other woodshops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 27, 2021, 12:19:43 PM

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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
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Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so
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https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/

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Yes, but what about the other brands under them, in particular Isle and Magenta? Any info on whether they are still BBS, or are also on Clutch there now?

Seems like Studio is still Control as the Theories website has "Made in Canada" and Evisen doesn't have a made in so assuming that is still Dwindle as per the listing.

Just got a Magenta from the new season a few days ago. Looks and feels like BBS but I also never had a deck from Clutch before. I am in Europe tho. Maybe the stickers on the top give any Information?

(https://i.ibb.co/D92Z6zP/20211127-211221-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5TFfmk)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Violator on November 27, 2021, 08:54:08 PM

@fs1/2cab I'm currently waiting on a recent Magenta deck (I'm in the US) and will confirm once it arrives, but I believe that type of warning sticker is indicative of BBS decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on November 28, 2021, 01:06:23 PM

the official magenta page says Bareback (https://i.ibb.co/ZXskZkM/Screenshot-2021-11-28-23-03-53-822-com-android-chrome.png) (https://ibb.co/ZXskZkM)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 29, 2021, 07:03:35 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 26, 2021, 02:55:37 AM

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Was this 2hex already mentioned? Anyone knows if they produce for someone?

https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/
https://theberrics.com/2hex-revolutionizing-custom-skateboard-production

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I had heard 2Hex is actually very expensive from a few people, but only one guy I know has boards from them, through a local brand here, which he says are decent quality and good shapes, but I have never seen any to my knowledge.

Maybe it is more just the very awkward product review by the guy on youtube ads or how their product is marketed, but I feel like my first instinct is to stay well clear of them, thinking they look like a cheap generic version of the good stuff, in the same way sellers on Ali Express or other similar manufacturers have pro brand look alikes with different brand names.

It would still be interesting to hear if anyone has skated their boards, or how they are compared to other woodshops.

I've logged in to 2hex. I like their site. I like any company that makes the board order process simple. They do are seem costly at least for here in America. They appear targeted to larger brands, but I also don't know why a larger US brand would go with them over who they're using already. Usually these types of factories won't turn away business if you contact them directly and will work with you, but based on their site, a (what I'd consider standard) 2 stain deck, Canadian maple, with bottom graphic is $25 with Minimum order being 50 decks per size. Shipping not included. A small NA local brand would be better off going with any of the smaller NA woodshops.

now if you did 1000 decks in that size, with a top graphic, engraving, and card insert, that would be $17 per deck. They also do trucks, wheels, etc Playing around with their ordering tool provides some interesting insite

They also did some sponsored content with the berrics last year, during the hardgoods shortage but I don't know anyone in the US that's used 2hex

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 29, 2021, 07:19:33 PM

Some of their innovations are crazy, like printing a graphic straight onto the deck, which I think at least one other place has done now as well, but I also wonder how much of the old technology is slowing down some older woodshops, compared to some of the newer woodshops that can buy the latest and greatest machines and do much more than what some places do.

I know even from seeing the old videos from woodshops like BBS or PS Stix, compared to their newer technological advances, there are so many upgrades and changes that have happened.

As you said, having lower order minimums means a higher price per unit, which I think is why people looking for small runs of boards have said they are too expensive, especially as they will have to bring the boards into the country, rather than just use a supplier that already has wood in a warehouse, maybe even in the same state (thinking more of Australia here, but could also be said for US or other places too).

Interested to see where they take it, as a business, but not so interested to buy in or order any product.

Was this the one, from Berrics?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHsnhZ0lI3-/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 29, 2021, 08:11:02 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 29, 2021, 07:19:33 PM

Some of their innovations are crazy, like printing a graphic straight onto the deck, which I think at least one other place has done now as well, but I also wonder how much of the old technology is slowing down some older woodshops, compared to some of the newer woodshops that can buy the latest and greatest machines and do much more than what some places do.

I know even from seeing the old videos from woodshops like BBS or PS Stix, compared to their newer technological advances, there are so many upgrades and changes that have happened.

As you said, having lower order minimums means a higher price per unit, which I think is why people looking for small runs of boards have said they are too expensive, especially as they will have to bring the boards into the country, rather than just use a supplier that already has wood in a warehouse, maybe even in the same state (thinking more of Australia here, but could also be said for US or other places too).

Interested to see where they take it, as a business, but not so interested to buy in or order any product.

Was this the one, from Berrics?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHsnhZ0lI3-/

Yeah, they also made the "do a kickflip" board for the berrics.

As far as direct to wood printing. as far as my research goes, any UV flatbed printer can do that. I don't think they are offering anything proprietary.

https://youtu.be/3fB0RbE3a_E

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 29, 2021, 08:15:17 PM

Yeah.

Sure is a whole new level of production!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 29, 2021, 08:21:03 PM

Quote from: WavyDavy on November 25, 2021, 12:05:38 PM

Was this 2hex already mentioned? Anyone knows if they produce for someone?

https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/
https://theberrics.com/2hex-revolutionizing-custom-skateboard-production

Also, there are those 2 Euro woodshops in Poland

https://www.instagram.com/nibiruskateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/locals_skateboards_mfg/
http://www.localsskateboards.com/

Locals makes boards for nonconform skates

Almost forgot to check those links from before too.

Thanks

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRQnj4rF7vA/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh_e5P3FE14/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 30, 2021, 04:25:55 AM

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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
[close]

Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so
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https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/

Theories
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Traffic
Hopps
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clutch wood?
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Yes, but what about the other brands under them, in particular Isle and Magenta? Any info on whether they are still BBS, or are also on Clutch there now?

Seems like Studio is still Control as the Theories website has "Made in Canada" and Evisen doesn't have a made in so assuming that is still Dwindle as per the listing.
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Just got a Magenta from the new season a few days ago. Looks and feels like BBS but I also never had a deck from Clutch before. I am in Europe tho. Maybe the stickers on the top give any Information?

(https://i.ibb.co/D92Z6zP/20211127-211221-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5TFfmk)

They always used to do the brown stains, like Passport did - same wood and everything, so it is funny to see orange tops.

Here are some Passports I just bought, second pic of the tops and third pic of the warning stickers are the same.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW4q7eYFz11/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 30, 2021, 12:05:01 PM

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3 theories boards i got for around 100 in that Union skate shop sale a few weeks back
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Great deals!

I had been told some are BBS and some are Clutch.

Can you give me any more info on those boards you got?

Thanks.
[close]

Probably clutch. I’ve skated a lot of Clutch blanks through Chapman, and they feel the same. I like em; they tend to last me about a month or so
[close]

https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/

Theories
Picture Show
Traffic
Hopps
[close]
clutch wood?
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Yes, but what about the other brands under them, in particular Isle and Magenta? Any info on whether they are still BBS, or are also on Clutch there now?

Seems like Studio is still Control as the Theories website has "Made in Canada" and Evisen doesn't have a made in so assuming that is still Dwindle as per the listing.
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Just got a Magenta from the new season a few days ago. Looks and feels like BBS but I also never had a deck from Clutch before. I am in Europe tho. Maybe the stickers on the top give any Information?

(https://i.ibb.co/D92Z6zP/20211127-211221-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F5TFfmk)
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They always used to do the brown stains, like Passport did - same wood and everything, so it is funny to see orange tops.

Here are some Passports I just bought, second pic of the tops and third pic of the warning stickers are the same.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW4q7eYFz11/

Yeah that had me curious, because it was always brown tops. I know I am in the minority, but I love orange tops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 30, 2021, 05:20:20 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on November 30, 2021, 12:05:01 PM

Yeah that had me curious, because it was always brown tops. I know I am in the minority, but I love orange tops.

Most of the DLX boards I had for the last however many (almost twenty?) years were almost always yellow or orange tops, so I am always stoked to get another one like that one you have now, especially now considering they seem to do a lot more different colours that what they used to do.

I know it is down to the grain of the wood, but some seem to have a darker orange and some lighter too, as per these, which show up more in the pic than they do in person, but just another interesting thing.

Two of my eagles:

(https://i.ibb.co/4PBr0bS/AH-Orange-tops.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m6QWPny)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM

a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM

a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)

Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 01, 2021, 07:57:56 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8-8W8v1qG/?utm_medium=copy_link

Judging by their reposting, Polo uses Chapman. I know a lot of you were wondering. worry no longer

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: chat noir on December 01, 2021, 09:57:43 PM

What's up with Flip's wood? It has been over 20 years since i've had a Flip deck. Saw a Lance Mountain shape I liked.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM

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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
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Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 01, 2021, 10:24:38 PM

Quote from: chat noir on December 01, 2021, 09:57:43 PM

What's up with Flip's wood? It has been over 20 years since i've had a Flip deck. Saw a Lance Mountain shape I liked.

Clutch wood, good but not great IMO, others may disagree.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 11:51:29 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 01, 2021, 10:24:38 PM

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What's up with Flip's wood? It has been over 20 years since i've had a Flip deck. Saw a Lance Mountain shape I liked.
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Clutch wood, good but not great IMO, others may disagree.

Only Clutch in the US? Euro is HLC right and there's some price point stuff out of China. It's hit and miss depending on where you are.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 02, 2021, 02:33:31 AM

Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.

Yeah I think I asked last time it was brought up but never actually got an answer as to where those boards come from, or I could be wrong and someone actually did give an answer.

There are a few suppliers and distribution companies that would be considered resellers more than anything else, but I also think some might not be so thrilled about people speculating online about their product, especially given I have never seen it and probably never will on the other side of the world.

Re Quarter Distribution - Others have said it held up well though, which is why I am much more interested in posting about them too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 02, 2021, 02:46:41 AM

Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 11:51:29 PM

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What's up with Flip's wood? It has been over 20 years since i've had a Flip deck. Saw a Lance Mountain shape I liked.
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Clutch wood, good but not great IMO, others may disagree.
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Only Clutch in the US? Euro is HLC right and there's some price point stuff out of China. It's hit and miss depending on where you are.

As far as I know Flip USA use Clutch, haven't seen a Flip out of EU yet so I can't confirm. But I know the decks out of China are counterfeits; they still do PJ Ladd graphics on them. Pre-built complete Flip are also out of China, but not counterfeits.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on December 02, 2021, 03:04:46 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 02, 2021, 02:46:41 AM

Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 11:51:29 PM
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Quote from: rocklobster on December 01, 2021, 10:24:38 PM
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Quote from: chat noir on December 01, 2021, 09:57:43 PM
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What's up with Flip's wood? It has been over 20 years since i've had a Flip deck. Saw a Lance Mountain shape I liked.
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Clutch wood, good but not great IMO, others may disagree.
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Only Clutch in the US? Euro is HLC right and there's some price point stuff out of China. It's hit and miss depending on where you are.
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As far as I know Flip USA use Clutch, haven't seen a Flip out of EU yet so I can't confirm. But I know the decks out of China are counterfeits; they still do PJ Ladd graphics on them. Pre-built complete Flip are also out of China, but not counterfeits.

https://hlcdist.com/?___store=hlc_en

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on December 02, 2021, 07:18:07 AM

Can any of the true wood connoisseurs in here enlighten me on what's good within the smaller woodshops? Seems like BBS is the gold standard but I have to imagine there are other small shops out there doing it even better. I have an Active shop deck that I believe is Anno Domini (Colorado) and it really feels excellent, especially considering it was $21.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 02, 2021, 02:21:20 PM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on December 02, 2021, 07:18:07 AM

Can any of the true wood connoisseurs in here enlighten me on what's good within the smaller woodshops? Seems like BBS is the gold standard but I have to imagine there are other small shops out there doing it even better. I have an Active shop deck that I believe is Anno Domini (Colorado) and it really feels excellent, especially considering it was $21.

So the most interesting thing with that (besides how curious it is to even know which woodshop it comes from sometimes) is most woodshop owners or associated people will often throw around sayings like "Best wood in the biz" or whatever similar saying, but meaning their woodshop is better than the rest.

Nothing against each woodshop owner or associated person, but when you hear that all the time or read it on social media posts, you start to just ignore it as just a common marketing / sales thing and it starts to not mean much at all, or if someone is very vocal about it, I just smile and nod, often with a "Yeah sure" or something, if they really want a response.

Although there is not a definite measure of whose is the best, at least on here there are often any number of people singing the praises of (or putting down) any given woodshop at any given time. What I would also take into consideration is what that individual skater did to have a board last only a day, or last a full year - maybe an exaggeration, but when some people go through a board every week or so, having one last a month might be unexpected in both a good or bad way, eg the board was so soggy it didn't break so lasted a whole month before changing it out, or the board was so stiff and kept its pop they had it on a whole month.

Some places like NHS had a "Research and Development" department, with a machine that puts repeated weight and pressure on the kicks of a board until it breaks, with videos to show it. That's all good and well, but I don't really need what might be considered a big corporate company (using a machine) to show me how long a board will last.

What it does come down to is more often the personal preference of concave, angle of kicks, overall dimensions, size and the shape, so while woodshops differ significantly in some of those areas, someone who is very used to one version of concave might not be able to skate a board from nine other woodshops, if their concave is different - like me as an example. Just because I have very specific needs, doesn't make me think any less of other woodshops, but it does make me not enjoy skating most boards because of how conditioned I am to a specific concave, so someone else in that position might give a negative review of a board because they personally didn't like it for whatever reason.

Then of course there is the unfortunate heavy landing, or misplaced foot, which can end a skate rather quickly, but does tend to happen either in the first session when the board is really new for some people, or after too many hits and it just gives out. I know quite a few people who often put it down to a bad board, but from seeing them skate, I put it down more so to them not landing correctly and breaking a board, not that a board was bad. Even done it myself many times back when I was more keen, never I can recall it being the fault of the board.

So after taking all that into consideration, I would say there are definitely some boards from some suppliers that would break more easily than others, or have other issues, but nothing I have really heard or seen that would make me say Woodshop A, B and C are great, but Woodshop D, E and F are not, especially in the smaller manufacturing sector.

The list is always growing on the first page, second post, mostly with some info here or there besides just a name, link to website or instagram, but I think many of those woodshops are very specific to certain areas and it is not that common for their boards to make it out of their given country, or continent, even though some do end up all over the world, so it might be harder in that regard to track down specific boards from any given woodshop too.

Always curious to hear more from people who have been able to sample a wider range of boards, more so than just a few major suppliers, especially if they are not "first day board breakers".

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 02, 2021, 06:30:39 PM

Adding this here, as per initial post a while back:

Quote from: LandonPrimo on March 23, 2019, 12:16:02 AM

https://youtu.be/QMjmI7GtvcE

https://youtu.be/cPyqV4IImuk

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: OMSK on December 08, 2021, 03:52:20 PM

Quote from: manysnakes on November 23, 2021, 09:06:45 AM

Have anyone ever got confirmation of where the Tactics shop decks are produced?

All Tactics shop decks are still made through BBS/Generator. I handle all the shop board production for them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: I Can't Think on December 08, 2021, 08:04:02 PM

Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 08, 2021, 09:28:51 PM

Quote from: I Can't Think on December 08, 2021, 08:04:02 PM

Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.

WKND are pretty easy to find just about everywhere and they share a distribution with passport so I'm sure they're around. Quasi/gx1000 boards seem to be everywhere as well.

All exclusively use PS but either way PS are amongst the easiest boards to ID. Just walk into the shop and look for the stickers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 08, 2021, 09:31:29 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:28:51 PM

Quote from: I Can't Think on December 08, 2021, 08:04:02 PM
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Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.
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WKND are pretty easy to find just about everywhere and they share a distribution with passport so I'm sure they're around. Quasi/gx1000 boards seem to be everywhere as well.

All exclusively use PS but either way PS are amongst the easiest boards to ID. Just walk into the shop and look for the stickers.

Don't you mean the laser engraving over the front truck mounting holes?

BBS ones now have the hologram sticker at the rear truck mounting holes.

@Mbrimson88 tracks the AU market, always a good resource.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 08, 2021, 09:38:16 PM

Quote from: BugleBites on November 22, 2021, 04:42:35 PM

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but a Primitive rider was just in the shop and said they’re using Pennswood now.

If this is true its only for the team riders or something has massively changed in the last 6 months. There is zero chance a little woodshop notorious for being months behind on 50 board orders (and this is pre-pandemic) is suddenly going to start churning out the kind of volume that primitive needs. Pennswood just isnt that kind of shop - its literally a dude and his family on a farm in the middle of fucking nowhere making shit by hand.

Joe is super creative and innovative and makes really great looking boards but quickly and reliably meeting that kind of production almost requires going out of country.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 08, 2021, 09:41:19 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 08, 2021, 09:31:29 PM

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Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.
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WKND are pretty easy to find just about everywhere and they share a distribution with passport so I'm sure they're around. Quasi/gx1000 boards seem to be everywhere as well.

All exclusively use PS but either way PS are amongst the easiest boards to ID. Just walk into the shop and look for the stickers.
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Don't you mean the laser engraving over the front truck mounting holes?

BBS ones now have the hologram sticker at the rear truck mounting holes.

@Mbrimson88 tracks the AU market, always a good resource.

No, I mean the bright red and white safety sticker that goes on the shrink wrap and often obscures the engraving. The PS one is the biggest of the standard ones and super easy to spot.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 08, 2021, 09:58:34 PM

Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM
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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
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Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
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How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.

2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 09, 2021, 12:53:08 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:58:34 PM

Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM
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Quote from: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM
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Quote from: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM
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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
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Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
[close]

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.
[close]

2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.

Quarter Dist is like 30 minutes away from me. Nice peeps and the quality is good of the decks no doubt. Just something about the shapes I tried felt a bit off. (too much fingers of flat, too flat between the kicks) But that is just me personally and a lot of people enjoy their decks and don't have the madness.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 09, 2021, 01:55:31 PM

Max Allure uses BBS for team only decks, but might be dropping a few in their line soon.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: I Can't Think on December 09, 2021, 02:24:35 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:28:51 PM

Quote from: I Can't Think on December 08, 2021, 08:04:02 PM
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Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.
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WKND are pretty easy to find just about everywhere and they share a distribution with passport so I'm sure they're around. Quasi/gx1000 boards seem to be everywhere as well.

All exclusively use PS but either way PS are amongst the easiest boards to ID. Just walk into the shop and look for the stickers.

Perfect, appreciate it

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 09, 2021, 08:24:16 PM

Quote from: I Can't Think on December 09, 2021, 02:24:35 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
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Quote from: I Can't Think on December 08, 2021, 08:04:02 PM
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Would anyone know any PS Stix brands that are generally easily accessible and readily available in Australia? I've had really good luck with them recently, but I notice a lot of brands will use different woodshops depending on the location they're selling to, if it's a pro model, etc.
[close]

WKND are pretty easy to find just about everywhere and they share a distribution with passport so I'm sure they're around. Quasi/gx1000 boards seem to be everywhere as well.

All exclusively use PS but either way PS are amongst the easiest boards to ID. Just walk into the shop and look for the stickers.
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Perfect, appreciate it

Yes there are definitely lots of GX1000 and Quasi boards around Australian shops still.

I haven't really looked so much for WKND here, but at least they are all still 100% PS Stix too. Looking at the first list again and so many of the top brands who used to be on PS Stix are now on BBS or elsewhere.

Not sure why but I know some shops remove the shrink wrap and the warning stickers, which is weird.

The serial number line is the best giveaway, when they have SN# PS10032-0321

Pretty cool as was pointed out a while back that the first number refers to the batch and the second number is the board number from that batch.

As per post from a while back:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3560908#msg3560908

Here is the generic PS Stix top to show anyway.

(https://i.ibb.co/5rzZSXK/PS-Stix-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3M8sGj)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 09, 2021, 08:33:52 PM

This was one with the warning sticker, as BFRD said, they sure are bigger than most.

Also usually not over bolts, as that is where the serial number is, so they are often up a bit higher on the nose.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820028919822155819/891265073832681512/image0.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 12, 2021, 02:56:08 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on December 09, 2021, 12:53:08 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
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Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM
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Quote from: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM
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Quote from: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM
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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
[close]

Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
[close]

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.
[close]

2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.
[close]

Quarter Dist is like 30 minutes away from me. Nice peeps and the quality is good of the decks no doubt. Just something about the shapes I tried felt a bit off. (too much fingers of flat, too flat between the kicks) But that is just me personally and a lot of people enjoy their decks and don't have the madness.

Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Youoverthere on December 12, 2021, 05:24:29 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on December 02, 2021, 07:18:07 AM

Can any of the true wood connoisseurs in here enlighten me on what's good within the smaller woodshops? Seems like BBS is the gold standard but I have to imagine there are other small shops out there doing it even better. I have an Active shop deck that I believe is Anno Domini (Colorado) and it really feels excellent, especially considering it was $21.

Did you have any issues trying to get the screws through the truck holes? Cuz my homie and I got a couple of AD bloards and we both had to bore slightly bigger holes just to set it up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on December 12, 2021, 01:24:13 PM

has anyone seen a pennswood pressed primitive board? or was that just a load of shit

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 12, 2021, 01:26:20 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 12, 2021, 02:56:08 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on December 09, 2021, 12:53:08 PM
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Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
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Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM
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Quote from: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM
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Quote from: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM
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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
[close]

Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
[close]

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.
[close]

2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.
[close]

Quarter Dist is like 30 minutes away from me. Nice peeps and the quality is good of the decks no doubt. Just something about the shapes I tried felt a bit off. (too much fingers of flat, too flat between the kicks) But that is just me personally and a lot of people enjoy their decks and don't have the madness.
[close]

Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.

You know what their insta says: "100% Canadian Hardrock Maple and super strong Epoxy Glue." If I had molds to mass produce decks, that's all I would post on my website.
This leads me to the assumption, that they only apply the heat transfers there and get their decks from somewhere else. But I can't confirm that, because they didn't let me too deep inside the building.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: burm on December 12, 2021, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on December 12, 2021, 01:26:20 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 12, 2021, 02:56:08 AM
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Quote from: fs1/2cab on December 09, 2021, 12:53:08 PM
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Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 08, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
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Quote from: Ghost Face on December 01, 2021, 10:07:18 PM
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Quote from: Woodshop on December 01, 2021, 05:02:30 AM
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Quote from: BALARGUE on December 01, 2021, 03:47:21 AM
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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
[close]

Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
[close]

How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.
[close]

2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.
[close]

Quarter Dist is like 30 minutes away from me. Nice peeps and the quality is good of the decks no doubt. Just something about the shapes I tried felt a bit off. (too much fingers of flat, too flat between the kicks) But that is just me personally and a lot of people enjoy their decks and don't have the madness.
[close]

Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.
[close]

You know what their insta says: "100% Canadian Hardrock Maple and super strong Epoxy Glue." If I had molds to mass produce decks, that's all I would post on my website.
This leads me to the assumption, that they only apply the heat transfers there and get their decks from somewhere else. But I can't confirm that, because they didn't let me too deep inside the building.

The more knowledgeable can correct me, but to me references to ”epoxy glue” seem to always imply Chinese made decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 12, 2021, 02:04:07 PM

The homie want to come back on a shapes board.

I want him not to buy a Chinese hunk of shit. He had his finger on the trigger on some bullshit reissue

We want to support Punks if possible.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 12, 2021, 04:21:16 PM

Quote from: burm on December 12, 2021, 01:44:14 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on December 12, 2021, 01:26:20 PM
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Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 12, 2021, 02:56:08 AM
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Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.
[close]

You know what their insta says: "100% Canadian Hardrock Maple and super strong Epoxy Glue." If I had molds to mass produce decks, that's all I would post on my website.
This leads me to the assumption, that they only apply the heat transfers there and get their decks from somewhere else. But I can't confirm that, because they didn't let me too deep inside the building.
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The more knowledgeable can correct me, but to me references to ”epoxy glue” seem to always imply Chinese made decks.

From looking around there is no indication they press anything, so I am going to assume it is like a local distributor here in Australia, who buy in bulk blanks and always do the heat transfer thing. That is why I put them in the lower list under this heading on the first page, second post.

Most of those boards come from Jeeping Wooden Industrial which is one of three major woodshops in China, the factories under the names of Excel, Jeeping or Dalian Hauhong.

Manufacturers / Woodshops that DO NOT make their own boards but resell others list:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3525937#msg3525937

* Note: I can always change the listing if someone says otherwise.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 12, 2021, 04:59:31 PM

Quote from: off on December 12, 2021, 01:24:13 PM

has anyone seen a pennswood pressed primitive board? or was that just a load of shit

So one shop guy did say a Primitive rider said they were a page back.

A few more pages back someone posted three Primitive boards, one BBS / Made in Mexico, one made in China and one made in USA, so given there are not that many woodshops in the USA, it could very well be that or someone else like AD.

Whatever the case, it seemed like he was not too happy with his USA made Primitive board.

Link to the pics here for you:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3667697#msg3667697

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 12, 2021, 05:03:05 PM

Quote from: z_tx on October 26, 2021, 12:36:28 PM

3 Primtive 8.25s from recent drops
All decks are the same shape but made at 3 different woodshops, one China (?), one Mexico (BBS), one USA (?)
I usually love the bbs primitive decks but pretty disappointed they are using cheaper woodshops now. A homie skated one of the "made in USA" P-Rod decks and it broke within a few hours. Any idea what woodshop the China and USA decks are coming from? Thanks

(https://i.ibb.co/cvfTD4z/Image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Bv861F)
(https://i.ibb.co/3CS0CZK/Image-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQg8Qj2)
(https://i.ibb.co/nrqLCh4/Image-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnN2tS7)
(https://i.ibb.co/sgdQpyw/Image-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zmTbWGR)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sw9dJ77/Image-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5hfn2xx)

On second thought, it was just easier to bring it up again and ask.

Any thoughts on your different boards, if you skated them or any other info you can share?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 13, 2021, 11:19:52 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 12, 2021, 05:03:05 PM

Quote from: z_tx on October 26, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
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3 Primtive 8.25s from recent drops
All decks are the same shape but made at 3 different woodshops, one China (?), one Mexico (BBS), one USA (?)
I usually love the bbs primitive decks but pretty disappointed they are using cheaper woodshops now. A homie skated one of the "made in USA" P-Rod decks and it broke within a few hours. Any idea what woodshop the China and USA decks are coming from? Thanks

(https://i.ibb.co/cvfTD4z/Image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Bv861F)
(https://i.ibb.co/3CS0CZK/Image-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQg8Qj2)
(https://i.ibb.co/nrqLCh4/Image-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnN2tS7)
(https://i.ibb.co/sgdQpyw/Image-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zmTbWGR)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sw9dJ77/Image-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5hfn2xx)
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On second thought, it was just easier to bring it up again and ask.

Any thoughts on your different boards, if you skated them or any other info you can share?

When I add the specs from these stickers I get 31.75 length.
6.7 tail + 2.125 mounting holes + 14 wb + 2.125 mounting holes + 6.8 nose = 31.75
Is there something I am missing?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 14, 2021, 03:25:12 PM

Quote from: Uncle Flea on December 12, 2021, 02:04:07 PM

The homie want to come back on a shapes board.

I want him not to buy a Chinese hunk of shit. He had his finger on the trigger on some bullshit reissue

We want to support Punks if possible.

I don't know how easy (or maybe very hard) to get hold of but there have been some pretty cool things in the 9"+ thread that I would think have punk roots, or at least way more so than many of the modern reissues from Powell, Santa Cruz, or other associated brands.

Even a shaped blank / shop board from somewhere with a stencil spray job graphic would be more fun than most of those reissues to me.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.4230

Also just thinking about Black Label (pretty decent brand, good wood, good shapes) with riders like Jason Adams.

https://blacklabelskates.bigcartel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWCIRFLPxT_/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Eric Dolphy on December 14, 2021, 04:10:44 PM

sooooo my mate wants to buy a DGK board and asked me about woodshops as the resident gear nerd of our circle. I looked on here and it says BBS but i'm looking at the image in this link and i'm not convinced..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/dgk-deck-dgk-8-25-boo-rolling-papers-skateboard-deck-white-28292934860870_960x960_crop_center.jpg?v=1628043067

Is that a little indent punched between the front truck holes?
Would that indicate it's made in a Chinese factory?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 14, 2021, 04:32:57 PM

Quote from: TracersOnlyfans on December 14, 2021, 04:10:44 PM

sooooo my mate wants to buy a DGK board and asked me about woodshops as the resident gear nerd of our circle. I looked on here and it says BBS but i'm looking at the image in this link and i'm not convinced..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/dgk-deck-dgk-8-25-boo-rolling-papers-skateboard-deck-white-28292934860870_960x960_crop_center.jpg?v=1628043067

Is that a little indent punched between the front truck holes?
Would that indicate it's made in a Chinese factory?

Totally still BBS and that wider rounded punched mark is standard to all BBS boards, even the DLX ones that have the I to IV on them too.

Many of the other woodshops do have some sort of mark on them, which is the best indicator of front or back, but the most common one I have seen is a much smaller almost nail like mark in the boards, more so than a wider rounded punched mark as per the usual BBS boards.

Never hurts to check or ask though, especially with so many changes and things going on.

The only boards from DGK that are not from BBS are the budget completes, which are pretty much the same across most brands now, with the pro wood being of one quality and the budget completes almost all being cheap wood and parts from China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 14, 2021, 05:21:28 PM

Actually from looking at a few DLX decks I have right here now, they only have the I to IV stamp and no dot.

The older DLX boards and even some new ones still have only the dot, as do a few other brands here, including Baker, DGK, Element (which also have the laser info over the dot area) along with two others I know are BBS that don't have anything on the tops.

Most of the still sealed in shrink decks have the dot under the warning sticker, so it is often not noticed until you take off the shrink and sticker, which I always do before gripping.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 14, 2021, 05:42:41 PM

Quote from: TracersOnlyfans on December 14, 2021, 04:10:44 PM

sooooo my mate wants to buy a DGK board and asked me about woodshops as the resident gear nerd of our circle. I looked on here and it says BBS but i'm looking at the image in this link and i'm not convinced..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/dgk-deck-dgk-8-25-boo-rolling-papers-skateboard-deck-white-28292934860870_960x960_crop_center.jpg?v=1628043067

Is that a little indent punched between the front truck holes?
Would that indicate it's made in a Chinese factory?

These looks like legit DGK decks, there was a batch in late 2019 / early 2020 with past season graphics circulating on Aliexpress, but those have died down almost completely.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 14, 2021, 07:50:07 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 14, 2021, 05:42:41 PM

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sooooo my mate wants to buy a DGK board and asked me about woodshops as the resident gear nerd of our circle. I looked on here and it says BBS but i'm looking at the image in this link and i'm not convinced..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/dgk-deck-dgk-8-25-boo-rolling-papers-skateboard-deck-white-28292934860870_960x960_crop_center.jpg?v=1628043067

Is that a little indent punched between the front truck holes?
Would that indicate it's made in a Chinese factory?
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These looks like legit DGK decks, there was a batch in late 2019 / early 2020 with past season graphics circulating on Aliexpress, but those have died down almost completely.

DGK does Chinese decks too. The safe bet with DGK is to get a pro model graphic and not logo graphic. If you buy in person just check for the made in Mexico sticker.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Eric Dolphy on December 14, 2021, 08:18:46 PM

Awesome, thanks @Woodshop, @rocklobster and @TwisT for the replies.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 15, 2021, 05:38:33 AM

Quote from: TwisT on December 14, 2021, 07:50:07 PM

DGK does Chinese decks too. The safe bet with DGK is to get a pro model graphic and not logo graphic. If you buy in person just check for the made in Mexico sticker.

That's interesting.

Was it just during the pandemic shortages, or before then? (or after?)

I had thought DGK put out something (maybe just to shops and distro accounts) saying the only boards not from BBS were the budget completes from China, or something to that effect.

The team boards and pro boards were all the normal BBS top quality, with the pricepoint decks being the cheaper BBS wood, same as the DLX boards, often single top and bottom stains, or even just all natural in one run, but still with the same warning stickers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 15, 2021, 06:35:32 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 15, 2021, 05:38:33 AM

Quote from: TwisT on December 14, 2021, 07:50:07 PM
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DGK does Chinese decks too. The safe bet with DGK is to get a pro model graphic and not logo graphic. If you buy in person just check for the made in Mexico sticker.
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That's interesting.

Was it just during the pandemic shortages, or before then? (or after?)

I had thought DGK put out something (maybe just to shops and distro accounts) saying the only boards not from BBS were the budget completes from China, or something to that effect.

The team boards and pro boards were all the normal BBS top quality, with the pricepoint decks being the cheaper BBS wood, same as the DLX boards, often single top and bottom stains, or even just all natural in one run, but still with the same warning stickers.

I specifically remember the DGK "Garden" logo deck having a china sticker, when I bought an uncle marcus deck from the shop earlier this year. Now it's possible that logo deck could have been from an older batch. My local sells a lot of DGK product.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 15, 2021, 05:31:25 PM

As per the 9"+ thread:

Chico Stix has some more boards going up.

https://www.chicostix.com (https://www.chicostix.com)

This is a screen shot of the new boards, yet to be released, but as there are very limited numbers, so might sell out quickly.

(https://i.ibb.co/DYQrqDG/Chico-Stix-decks-12-2021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zFZ6kh8)

I also noticed in the info area it had "epoxy resin glue" which others have said before is usually an indicator the boards are from China, so I am curious if anyone has seen or skated these ones.

https://www.chicostix.com/products/chico-stix-skateboard-2x4-logo

Chico Stix Popsicle Skateboard Logo

100% North American 7-ply Maple with Epoxy Resin Glue, Mellow Concave, Strong Pop.

Available in 4 different sizes, assorted top and bottom color veneer.

7.75" x 31.125" x 13.875"

8" x 31.6 x 14"

8.25" x 31.9" x 14.25"

8.5" x 32" x 14.5"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 16, 2021, 06:09:44 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 15, 2021, 05:31:25 PM

As per the 9"+ thread:

Chico Stix has some more boards going up.

https://www.chicostix.com (https://www.chicostix.com)

This is a screen shot of the new boards, yet to be released, but as there are very limited numbers, so might sell out quickly.

(https://i.ibb.co/DYQrqDG/Chico-Stix-decks-12-2021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zFZ6kh8)

I also noticed in the info area it had "epoxy resin glue" which others have said before is usually an indicator the boards are from China, so I am curious if anyone has seen or skated these ones.

https://www.chicostix.com/products/chico-stix-skateboard-2x4-logo

Chico Stix Popsicle Skateboard Logo

100% North American 7-ply Maple with Epoxy Resin Glue, Mellow Concave, Strong Pop.

Available in 4 different sizes, assorted top and bottom color veneer.

7.75" x 31.125" x 13.875"

8" x 31.6 x 14"

8.25" x 31.9" x 14.25"

8.5" x 32" x 14.5"

Someone posted one in another thread (an 8") and the shape and dimensions are bang on with an 8" Enjoi Louie board I have in the stack.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Pee nis on December 16, 2021, 06:24:15 AM

Anybody know what woodshop Limosine uses? Tempted to get the Max Palmer 8.25 but couldn’t find the woodshop and hoping it’s BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on December 16, 2021, 06:33:09 AM

Quote from: Pee nis on December 16, 2021, 06:24:15 AM

Anybody know what woodshop Limosine uses? Tempted to get the Max Palmer 8.25 but couldn’t find the woodshop and hoping it’s BBS.

In a recent interview which was posted somewhere on here, Cyrus says it's BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Pee nis on December 16, 2021, 06:51:48 AM

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In a recent interview which was posted somewhere on here, Cyrus says it's BBS.

Thanks! 14.13 WB 8.25 on BBS is what I’ve been riding (Polar) so definitely going to support Max and scoop up that one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on December 16, 2021, 09:46:50 AM

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a few confirmations
Magenta is "mainly" BBS
(they made some boards with quarterdist because of shortage / being overtaken in the queue last year though)

Evisen is Dwindle (just received last drop, boards come with the same sticker you find on the side of dwindle completes / Dsm-Made in China Green Sticker)

Studio is Control
(just received last drop, made in canada sticker as always)
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Thanks!

I recall seeing (and probably posting) info about Quarter Distribution before, but having another look, they look like decent concaves and shapes too.

Apart from that, I guess I know nothing about them, besides being in Berlin, Germany.

Just one of many of their posts about their boards.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMjtvpzlmSw/

And another cause they do big shapes as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb0cy1FLM-/
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How many of these do you think are just 2Hex remixed? 2Hex is obviously just a middle man between Brand X and some unknown factories and will have your stuff made on your behalf, but don't actually do it themselves.
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2hex isnt a middleman, they actually produce what they sell. They're basically your modern VC model but applied to skating gear (guessing theres some rich European kids involved here) - they either possessed or raised enough capital to buy/lease a factory in china and are now expanding into all aspects of cheap chinese skate gear production including ugly trucks and wheels. I think of them as a super generic dwindle or something.

Basically its just all the stuff you'd normally have to go through ali-express to find but with a nice user interface and automated process. You can order 10000 boards without ever talking to a person and thats appealing to some people these days.

Their insta has a lot of information behind the scenes and they're pretty easy to contact. I'd be amazed if they aren't lurking on here too.

Never had one of their boards so i cant say if they're any good but if someone stateside has one they want to sell hit me up. They certainly look like they're doing things right and we've seen that the quality of the product coming from china has massively improved in the past few years. The guys in charge definitely skate so that always makes me hopeful.
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Quarter Dist is like 30 minutes away from me. Nice peeps and the quality is good of the decks no doubt. Just something about the shapes I tried felt a bit off. (too much fingers of flat, too flat between the kicks) But that is just me personally and a lot of people enjoy their decks and don't have the madness.
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Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.
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You know what their insta says: "100% Canadian Hardrock Maple and super strong Epoxy Glue." If I had molds to mass produce decks, that's all I would post on my website.
This leads me to the assumption, that they only apply the heat transfers there and get their decks from somewhere else. But I can't confirm that, because they didn't let me too deep inside the building.
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The more knowledgeable can correct me, but to me references to ”epoxy glue” seem to always imply Chinese made decks.

That was true for a long time but actually HLC does epoxy decks as well so it would actually not be out of line for a European distro to get their boards from there. I'd need to see one in person to really get a better idea. The HLC molds are pretty generic unfortunately so can't really scope anything from pics.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 16, 2021, 04:06:14 PM

Quote from: Pee nis on December 16, 2021, 06:51:48 AM

Quote from: Hedgehog In Da Fog on December 16, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
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Anybody know what woodshop Limosine uses? Tempted to get the Max Palmer 8.25 but couldn’t find the woodshop and hoping it’s BBS.
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In a recent interview which was posted somewhere on here, Cyrus says it's BBS.
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Thanks! 14.13 WB 8.25 on BBS is what I’ve been riding (Polar) so definitely going to support Max and scoop up that one.

If I’m remembering correctly, the Polar 8.25s are mislabeled and are actually a 14.3 WB. Not sure how much that matters, but heads up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 16, 2021, 09:42:04 PM

Quote from: Hedgehog In Da Fog on December 16, 2021, 06:33:09 AM

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In a recent interview which was posted somewhere on here, Cyrus says it's BBS.

Interesting to see another one on BBS, as well as board specs on their site too.

https://limosineskateboards.com/

Available in:

8.25" x 31.82"
14.13" Wheelbase

8.38" x 31.89"
14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.0"
14.3 Wheelbase

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXg01ZAP2KW/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 17, 2021, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on December 16, 2021, 04:06:14 PM

Quote from: Pee nis on December 16, 2021, 06:51:48 AM
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Anybody know what woodshop Limosine uses? Tempted to get the Max Palmer 8.25 but couldn’t find the woodshop and hoping it’s BBS.
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In a recent interview which was posted somewhere on here, Cyrus says it's BBS.
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Thanks! 14.13 WB 8.25 on BBS is what I’ve been riding (Polar) so definitely going to support Max and scoop up that one.
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If I’m remembering correctly, the Polar 8.25s are mislabeled and are actually a 14.3 WB. Not sure how much that matters, but heads up.

Yeah, that is true. Polar 8.25s have a 14.3 wheelbase

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

From the setup thread:

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on December 17, 2021, 09:25:23 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/C8zXh7G/IMG-20211001-152815-697.webp) (https://ibb.co/C8zXh7G)

Long time lurker first time poster. Figured it should be in the setup thread.

Lost Soul Yuh Yanagimachi - 8.0, 14" WB (Pennswood pressed)
Venture Lo 5.2s
OJ Nomads 53mm
Quantum Bearings Isotopes
Shorty's Silverado 1" Allen
Shorty's Blackmagic grip

Another one I have never heard of before, but also not on the Woodshop list yet.

Lost Soul made by Pennswood

https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7S6uFFCBW/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUDKEqMFrXG/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 02:28:03 AM

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Also speaking of Pennswood, there are a few new Instagram posts with some pretty amazing looking boards:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXmPvJjls5z/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on December 18, 2021, 02:14:33 PM

how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on December 18, 2021, 02:34:55 PM

:'(

Quote from: off on December 18, 2021, 02:14:33 PM

how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already

Or atleast post what brand/shop will be selling them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 04:30:32 PM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on December 18, 2021, 02:34:55 PM

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how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already
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Or atleast post what brand/shop will be selling them.

I think the other ones that were listed on the website sold out super fast.

It is a pretty cool process though, dipping the deck in a barrel of solution with the paint or something.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on December 18, 2021, 07:01:03 PM

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how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already
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Or atleast post what brand/shop will be selling them.
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I think the other ones that were listed on the website sold out super fast.

It is a pretty cool process though, dipping the deck in a barrel of solution with the paint or something.

Most of the decks dipped like that went to Cockfight skateboards in Texas ( on the last run)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 08:14:39 PM

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how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already
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Or atleast post what brand/shop will be selling them.
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I think the other ones that were listed on the website sold out super fast.

It is a pretty cool process though, dipping the deck in a barrel of solution with the paint or something.
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Most of the decks dipped like that went to Cockfight skateboards in Texas ( on the last run)

Cool to see another one I didn't have on the list.

Cockfight Skateboards on Pennswood

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUXYTyslmZE/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKF_j8ll7Cf/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 08:17:13 PM

Then this

Not so cool to see they had issues with the woodshop listed below, but their response to that is also listed so you can make up your own mind in that regard.

Another woodshop to add to the list as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8jvqplRDW/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVtQdBbF1oR/

Carver & Stone Limited LLC.
Product/service
Email direct: [email protected]
Skateboard Manufacturer & Woodshop in High Point NC
www.carverandstone.com
https://www.instagram.com/carverandstone/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CI3a-S4FF71/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2021, 08:40:49 PM

I also found another guy with boards, again most likely wood from "misc" woodshops, just heat transfers done there.

This post says BBS, but others look different.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXhED7_BZEg/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVvhnbZvplE/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWEkMEuPVDn/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 19, 2021, 10:54:34 PM

Woodshop list updated with some more changes.

A question for everyone:

Do you think there is a need to have shop boards listed separately in here too, or is that going to be too hard to keep updated?

Eg

Active - Anno Domini

Black Market Skates - BBS

Skate Warehouse - Clutch?

Tactics - BBS

Just to name a few that have been talked about recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bror on December 20, 2021, 11:44:44 AM

So i got this hockey deck today and noticed this crack on the top ply going from the tail down to the flat. Looks just like a big stress crack, is that something to worry about?

Havent broke any boards in my two years of skating so im probably just going to grip it and forget about it.

(https://i.ibb.co/M5s45FW/20211220-201807.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M5s45FW)(https://i.ibb.co/D79v0Q9/20211220-201608.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D79v0Q9)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on December 20, 2021, 12:10:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 19, 2021, 10:54:34 PM

Woodshop list updated with some more changes.

A question for everyone:

Do you think there is a need to have shop boards listed separately in here too, or is that going to be too hard to keep updated?

Eg

Active - Anno Domini

Black Market Skates - BBS

Skate Warehouse - Clutch?

Tactics - BBS

Just to name a few that have been talked about recently.

I think that would be very helpful, the more info we have the better.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 20, 2021, 03:56:10 PM

Quote from: Bror on December 20, 2021, 11:44:44 AM

So i got this hockey deck today and noticed this crack on the top ply going from the tail down to the flat. Looks just like a big stress crack, is that something to worry about?

Havent broke any boards in my two years of skating so im probably just going to grip it and forget about it.

(https://i.ibb.co/M5s45FW/20211220-201807.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M5s45FW)(https://i.ibb.co/D79v0Q9/20211220-201608.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D79v0Q9)

I feel like that sort of thing is really nothing to worry about.

Had a few boards like that over the years and it didn't affect performance at all.

Given there are quality controls in place, some things do get through unnoticed, but I doubt that would give anyone reason enough to pull it from production.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bror on December 21, 2021, 03:08:21 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 20, 2021, 03:56:10 PM

Quote from: Bror on December 20, 2021, 11:44:44 AM
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So i got this hockey deck today and noticed this crack on the top ply going from the tail down to the flat. Looks just like a big stress crack, is that something to worry about?

Havent broke any boards in my two years of skating so im probably just going to grip it and forget about it.

(https://i.ibb.co/M5s45FW/20211220-201807.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M5s45FW)(https://i.ibb.co/D79v0Q9/20211220-201608.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D79v0Q9)
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I feel like that sort of thing is really nothing to worry about.

Had a few boards like that over the years and it didn't affect performance at all.

Given there are quality controls in place, some things do get through unnoticed, but I doubt that would give anyone reason enough to pull it from production.

Great, thanks mate!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 22, 2021, 05:58:34 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 19, 2021, 10:54:34 PM

Woodshop list updated with some more changes.

A question for everyone:

Do you think there is a need to have shop boards listed separately in here too, or is that going to be too hard to keep updated?

Eg

Active - Anno Domini

Black Market Skates - BBS

Skate Warehouse - Clutch?

Tactics - BBS

Just to name a few that have been talked about recently.

35th - BBS last I’d seen.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on December 23, 2021, 05:44:22 PM

Quote from: off on December 12, 2021, 01:24:13 PM

has anyone seen a pennswood pressed primitive board? or was that just a load of shit

so i was talking to a friend of mine who works at primitive and he pretty much summed up the woodshop fiasco as this. i believe this was also explained on a previous page but....

the made in china boards are mostly for their licensed collabs, since they (the licensers) approve where the boards get made. interesting approach.

made in usa = pennswood. supply issues lead them to that.

the made in mexico are straight bbs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 24, 2021, 11:56:28 PM

This one popped up on something else and I thought of the 9+ boards but also post in this thread.

Saint Marks, from Sydney, Australia, reminds me a lot of Polar in more than a few ways, which I guess is a plus.

https://www.saintmarksskateboards.com/

Made in Mexico

(guessing Clutch but could be BBS)

https://www.saintmarksskateboards.com/store/p109/Loneliness_in_the_crowd.html

Squarish shape :
8.0" (WB:14 L:31.4 )
8.125" (WB:14 L:31.5)
8.25" (WB:14.25 L:31.6)
8.375" (WB:14.25 L:31.65 )
8.5" (WB:14.25 L:31.8)

Rounded shape:
8.0" (WB:14 L:31.25 )
8.125" (WB:14.37 L:31.5)
8.25" (WB:14.37 L:31.85)
8.375" (WB:14.25 L:32 )
8.5" (WB:14.5 L:32.33)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSnOZ_Th7L3/

Dims:

8.9" front trucks.

9.4" widest point.

8.6" back trucks.

One online shop had it had 9.4 x 32.5 with 15 wb, but I could not say for sure.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVBfwAvBMoU/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CStdxD5ll2y/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 27, 2021, 08:59:55 AM

I saw a few Hopps decks yesterday and there was nothing to indicate that they were BBS are people sure they still are? The size stickers had squares with numbers in them, no safety sticker, no made in Mexico sticker, nothing you’d normally see.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lou Strux on December 27, 2021, 09:43:02 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on December 27, 2021, 08:59:55 AM

I saw a few Hopps decks yesterday and there was nothing to indicate that they were BBS are people sure they still are? The size stickers had squares with numbers in them, no safety sticker, no made in Mexico sticker, nothing you’d normally see.

Unless they’ve switched it up recently, I think that most all of the domestic/US brands that are under the Theories umbrella are pressed on Clutch wood.
Not 100% on this, but I’m pert near cert the Theories deck I’m currently on is Clutch.
Can anybody authenticate my claim for our friend @LebowskisRug?
Paging Doctor Brimson, paging Doctor Brimson.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on December 27, 2021, 11:31:00 AM

The last time I was in my local shop I looked at some of theories new decks and they all were clutch from what I could tell. I'd steer clear of them if it were me, I like The brand's but that wood is not good.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 27, 2021, 11:35:15 AM

Good thing I swapped it for a Chocolate haha.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Woodshop on December 28, 2021, 03:47:36 AM

Quote from: Lou Strux on March 19, 2021, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: FrozenIndustries on March 19, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
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@Mbrimson88 unless anyone has intel specifically to the contrary, I think Chapman should be removed from the list or at least the brands should be asterisk'd. Their woodshop closed a couple years ago and AFAIK they have just been screening graphics on Clutch-pressed boards. I have handled a few recent "Chapman" blanks that were Clutch for sure.

Quote from: BugleBites on March 19, 2021, 10:32:07 AM
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We have new Blood Wizard at the shop and they're Clutch, not BBS. Our Hopps decks aren't BBS either. Just a heads up.
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I am pretty sure it has been posted elsewhere that Theories, Picture Show, and Hopps have been using Clutch to have some of their stuff pressed since COVID. Haven't skated or handled any and cannot confirm.
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The Theories deck I’m currently on def appears to be Clutch based on wood grain & my limited experience w/ Clutch, but I’m not 100% on that.
Y’all be sure to throw a gnar at Brimmo for undertaking this task.
You’re a good egg, @Mbrimson88.

Looking back through with the old explorer search (not the site search) and on the first page there were lots of "Theories" words that came up including your own post, as above.

Safe to say, as per the woodshop list, it was BBS until 2020 and is now Clutch from 2021, as per the third list in alphabetical order.

I guess the first list from woodshop might be a bit more confusing.

Theories* -2020 ………. ………. BBS
Theories* 2021 ………. ………. Clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 28, 2021, 03:57:15 AM

Quote from: Lou Strux on December 27, 2021, 09:43:02 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on December 27, 2021, 08:59:55 AM
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I saw a few Hopps decks yesterday and there was nothing to indicate that they were BBS are people sure they still are? The size stickers had squares with numbers in them, no safety sticker, no made in Mexico sticker, nothing you’d normally see.
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Unless they’ve switched it up recently, I think that most all of the domestic/US brands that are under the Theories umbrella are pressed on Clutch wood.
Not 100% on this, but I’m pert near cert the Theories deck I’m currently on is Clutch.
Can anybody authenticate my claim for our friend @LebowskisRug?
Paging Doctor Brimson, paging Doctor Brimson.

https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/

I am thinking there was a deeper dive into their distro a while back, with some brands still using whatever they were originally on, but more so their own in house brands are on Clutch wood, but I could be mistaken so any corrections needed, please let me know.

Theories, Hopps, Traffic, Picture Show all on Clutch wood now.

Magenta still on BBS, although some was "other" while they were having issues getting the normal supply.

Isle on BBS in USA, HLC in EU

Evisen on Dwindle

Studio on Control

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 02, 2022, 03:41:38 PM

Woodshop list updated and changed to 2022 in the header.

Not a big deal, but I am happy to be done with 2021.

Let's see how 2022 goes.

Any other changes, info, new companies or others that are not on the list on the first page, please let me know.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 02, 2022, 04:04:46 PM

Can someone school me on Excel wood? I’ve always liked Creature boards and have a few from 2021 in my stack (John Gardner pro debut). How’s the wood? Where is it pressed? Etc. Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 02, 2022, 04:30:59 PM

Quote from: TastyBurrito on January 02, 2022, 04:04:46 PM

Can someone school me on Excel wood? I’ve always liked Creature boards and have a few from 2021 in my stack (John Gardner pro debut). How’s the wood? Where is it pressed? Etc. Thanks in advance!

Excel is one of the most prominent and well established operations in China (established in 2004), but more hidden in name and profile than any others, espcially compared to Dwindle, which is the most well known woodshop in China, Dwindle starting in 2002.

They specialised in carbon and "other" materials as well as normal seven ply wood decks, but also do most of the budget completes for many brands now as well, so not just a woodshop but an all round everything type of deal.

I have a box with their address and info on it from pricepoint completes, but even in searches and other things not a whole lot of info comes up about them, which at times is a little frustrating, but they have a significant industry presence and deal with many major suppliers and brands.

As far as their known brands they make, the list is actually quite long, but as they don't have much info out there, combined with some people even asking for their brand info to be removed from under Excel, it comes across as a lot more limited or secret than it actually is.

The wood quality is good, with people liking the boards, so sometimes I don't get why some people are not keen on it being known where they get their boards from, but in saying that, it is definitely different to other woodshops based in Mexico and even noticeably different to Dwindle, although the concave and kicks are more similar to Dwindle than any other manufacturers, the products often being mistaken for one another too.

That is about it for my limited knowledge (or what I am willing to share on a public forum) but if anyone is able to correct me, help me out or anything else, I am also very interested to know more about them too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 08:40:50 AM

Anyone know what wood Paccbet (Rassvet)?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUywnh_lPFu/?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 05, 2022, 02:02:20 PM

Quote from: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 08:40:50 AM

Anyone know what wood Paccbet (Rassvet)?

I haven't heard of them before, but the first thing I usually do is DM their instagram account if nothing is listed anywhere else on their sites or shop pages.

It is interesting they have the two options for their concaves, eg

(*HC High concave
*MC Medium concave)

Not too many offer the same product in those options, but that might lead somewhere.

Pretty much the whole mid size range too.

On another note, UPS has some pretty good deals on decks right now, all the good brands with significant markdowns.

If you are local, I would say go in and stand on them, then compare them to some others you are more familiar with.

https://upsskateshop.com.au/collections/sale?filter.p.product_type=Boards&sort_by=price-ascending

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 05, 2022, 02:21:55 PM

Quote from: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 08:40:50 AM

Anyone know what wood Paccbet (Rassvet)?

On one of their posts, they have a little info:

(*HC High concave
*MC Medium concave)

Not too many offer the same product in those options, but that might lead somewhere.

Pretty much the whole mid size range too.

Boards from Rassvet 9 collection available through our stockists worldwide.

9XBET - 8.5 (HC)
999&#38;#1047;&#38;#1077;&#38;#1084;&#38;#1077;&#38;#1083;&#38;#1100; - 8.25 (HC)
Angels - 8.5 (HC)
Peace Pattern - 8.125 (MC)
Earth Peace - 8.375 (MC)
Arrow Sun - Green - 8.125 (MC)
Orange - 8.25 (HC)
Purple - 8.375 (MC)

Check out stockists story highlight to find a skate shop near you!

(*HC High concave
*MC Medium concave)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW5WPfYNMBk/

Also saw this with the usual warning sticker of BBS (Made in Mexico on the lower part) from an older board, but they could have easily changed for the newer lot as there don't seem to be any markings on the latest decks out now.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/rassvet-deck-paccbet-8-625-skateboard-deck-black-13641243852870_1080x1080_crop_center.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 03:45:55 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 05, 2022, 02:21:55 PM

Quote from: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 08:40:50 AM
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Anyone know what wood Paccbet (Rassvet)?

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On one of their posts, they have a little info:

(*HC High concave
*MC Medium concave)

Not too many offer the same product in those options, but that might lead somewhere.

Pretty much the whole mid size range too.

Boards from Rassvet 9 collection available through our stockists worldwide.

9XBET - 8.5 (HC)
999&#38;#38;#1047;&#38;#38;#1077;&#38;#38;#1084;&#38;#38;#1077;&#38;#38;#1083;&#38;#38;#1100; - 8.25 (HC)
Angels - 8.5 (HC)
Peace Pattern - 8.125 (MC)
Earth Peace - 8.375 (MC)
Arrow Sun - Green - 8.125 (MC)
Orange - 8.25 (HC)
Purple - 8.375 (MC)

Check out stockists story highlight to find a skate shop near you!

(*HC High concave
*MC Medium concave)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW5WPfYNMBk/

Also saw this with the usual warning sticker of BBS (Made in Mexico on the lower part) from an older board, but they could have easily changed for the newer lot as there don't seem to be any markings on the latest decks out now.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/rassvet-deck-paccbet-8-625-skateboard-deck-black-13641243852870_1080x1080_crop_center.jpg)

Cheers mate. I’m not in Sydney, but yeah some good deals and that got me curious at something different. There’s suddenly alot of cheap decks around (by Oz standards) so it’s very tempting to stock up if prices are gonna go back to $150+ due to shortage/logistics cost.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 05, 2022, 04:42:34 PM

Quote from: disappointed on January 05, 2022, 03:45:55 PM

Cheers mate. I’m not in Sydney, but yeah some good deals and that got me curious at something different. There’s suddenly alot of cheap decks around (by Oz standards) so it’s very tempting to stock up if prices are gonna go back to $150+ due to shortage/logistics cost.

All I can say is "Get them while you can" as there is a lot of excess stock around right now, with people expecting to sell a little more but Christmas sales just didn't quite add up, from what I have seen, so many shops are already trying to make a bit more room and sell some product to get through the thin months coming up, which is always the case in the first quarter of each year.

Some woodshops have already experienced shortages, which are often affecting distros, including one significant Australian distributor who has had an absolute struggle to get more boards in, but others seem to be almost overstocked right now.

* Just check UPS shipping info too ($15 flat rate) but it still works out a lot cheaper than RRP on decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 03:12:22 AM

Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 06, 2022, 03:31:11 AM

Quote from: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 03:12:22 AM

Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.

The whole list is crowd sourced really, so as people either work out, find out or read it somewhere, they usually add it to the thread, or at least share the information here, so it can get added to the list.

Many smaller brands often don't want to say where they get their wood from, which is kind of funny, but I get it if they don't want to say, you cannot make them. Same with some woodshops - if they don't want to help update the list, or let it be known who they make boards for, then the only way to work it out is either be told by someone in the know (often someone in the industry, of which there are a lot of people on here, so it would seem) or if someone works it out, be it from the board construction, made in XXX sticker, specific information on the board, packaging or through somewhere like a distributor who puts graphics on boards from a certain woodshop.

On occasion people do ask to have their brand or other woodshop information removed from the list and forum posts too,
so if that happens, the info gets removed and it is up to others to share that info if they want, but it will not be in the main list.

The two best ways to find out are either asking the shop where the board is being sold, or just go directly to the brand and ask them, DM or email and hope that someone who answers knows and is willing to share.

Not the first time someone replied on a brand account with "I don't know" which seemed surprising at first, but then just put me off the brand as it was some random account manager who really had nothing to do with the wood / skateboard side of things.

More often than not, anyone who is using the good wood will be quick to let you know, but I have noticed others who are using wood from an unknown woodshop (usually China) will often say something like "Our boards come from the same place as many other top brands" or similar. In that case, I just don't buy whatever they are selling. Pretty simple.

Anyway, I hope this has helped, so if there are any brands NOT already on the list, or are incorrect on the list, please post info if you do hear back from any of them, so it can be added and then help others with questions too.

There are a lot of people all over the world who contribute to this, so more often than not the details will come up for something you are chasing, even if it doesn't stay up or get added to the main list.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 06, 2022, 03:53:08 AM

Quote from: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 03:12:22 AM

Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.

I’ve never heard of Stoned or Fellas - so i looked em up on IG. Stoned looks to have there “420 lifestyle” brand established, not my thing but kinda sick - I DM’d them (like a man 8)) so maybe we’ll find out what wood.

Fellas seems small and pretty niche in Prague (300 followers on IG) and they haven’t posted in a month, and it’s all in Czech through their eshop. That’s in the too hard basket for me, but good luck finding out more with that one. Or is there a different Felas you a referring to?

What various british brands are you hyped on? I’m curious to know what’s out there too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 07:04:51 AM

Quote from: disappointed on January 06, 2022, 03:53:08 AM

Quote from: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 03:12:22 AM
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Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.
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I’ve never heard of Stoned or Fellas - so i looked em up on IG. Stoned looks to have there “420 lifestyle” brand established, not my thing but kinda sick - I DM’d them (like a man 8)) so maybe we’ll find out what wood.

Fellas seems small and pretty niche in Prague (300 followers on IG) and they haven’t posted in a month, and it’s all in Czech through their eshop. That’s in the too hard basket for me, but good luck finding out more with that one. Or is there a different Felas you a referring to?

What various british brands are you hyped on? I’m curious to know what’s out there too.

Thanks! I actually messaged both brands and neither responded, but I've had two stoned boards and I love them! I think they are BBS. I vaguely know a guy in Barcelona who used to ride for them, and he said it's similar to who he rides for now (DGK) soooo probably is BBS. Doesn't feel like Dwindle. The Stoned boards are very solid.
I haven't ridden the Felas yet but i imagine they're HLC or Dwindle.

I used to be hyped on Descent boards, made by Chris Pulman. They were made at Dwindle but had some good shapes and were snappy. He has closed the business now and has a pro board on Heroin instead. He is the nicest skater I've ever met, skated with him twice.
I also used to love Ekta, Milk and Landscape. Milk were very good, may have been chapman but not sure. Ekta was BBS I believe as I met the guy who made them and he was also distributing Killing Floor boards. Just speculation still though

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on January 06, 2022, 07:52:27 AM

Quote from: off on December 18, 2021, 02:14:33 PM

how those are never for sale on their website is beyond me
just take my money already

Looks like your prayers were answered. Just checked instagram and they posted that they've got some up on their store now. (Pennswood Marbled Blanks)
https://pennswood.myshopify.com/collections/drip (https://pennswood.myshopify.com/collections/drip)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 06, 2022, 09:47:36 AM

so does the hydrodip process effect the wood? I'm assuming the process pennswood did was not the youtube process of spray paint in in a tub of water

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 06, 2022, 02:38:32 PM

Quote from: TwisT on January 06, 2022, 09:47:36 AM

so does the hydrodip process effect the wood? I'm assuming the process pennswood did was not the youtube process of spray paint in in a tub of water

I had seen a video or two of it.

A big barrel that the boards are completely submerged in for a second or two.

Never the same one twice.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on January 06, 2022, 04:45:36 PM

sadly there was only one 8.5/14wb deck in the whole drop
sold out already >:(

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on January 06, 2022, 05:01:03 PM

Quote from: off on January 06, 2022, 04:45:36 PM

sadly there was only one 8.5/14wb deck in the whole drop
sold out already >:(

they didnt ship to canada and i was at work all day. assume all gone.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 06, 2022, 05:26:20 PM

Quote from: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 07:04:51 AM

Quote from: disappointed on January 06, 2022, 03:53:08 AM
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Quote from: DaveRichardson on January 06, 2022, 03:12:22 AM
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Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.
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I’ve never heard of Stoned or Fellas - so i looked em up on IG. Stoned looks to have there “420 lifestyle” brand established, not my thing but kinda sick - I DM’d them (like a man 8)) so maybe we’ll find out what wood.

Fellas seems small and pretty niche in Prague (300 followers on IG) and they haven’t posted in a month, and it’s all in Czech through their eshop. That’s in the too hard basket for me, but good luck finding out more with that one. Or is there a different Felas you a referring to?

What various british brands are you hyped on? I’m curious to know what’s out there too.
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Thanks! I actually messaged both brands and neither responded, but I've had two stoned boards and I love them! I think they are BBS. I vaguely know a guy in Barcelona who used to ride for them, and he said it's similar to who he rides for now (DGK) soooo probably is BBS. Doesn't feel like Dwindle. The Stoned boards are very solid.
I haven't ridden the Felas yet but i imagine they're HLC or Dwindle.

I used to be hyped on Descent boards, made by Chris Pulman. They were made at Dwindle but had some good shapes and were snappy. He has closed the business now and has a pro board on Heroin instead. He is the nicest skater I've ever met, skated with him twice.
I also used to love Ekta, Milk and Landscape. Milk were very good, may have been chapman but not sure. Ekta was BBS I believe as I met the guy who made them and he was also distributing Killing Floor boards. Just speculation still though

Nice. I didn’t know much about Chris Pulman, but after watching his smile piece, that was some real shit and instant fan. Yeah, same here I haven’t heard back from Stoned, and plenty of times brands are shifty with their wood/manufacture - and that’s a deal breaker for me. But if you get to like the shape and how skate then all power to you. Ultimately though, if a company isn’t open and honest with their product, then I’m out; I’m 100% agree with @mbrimson, so I’ll just quote him;

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More often than not, anyone who is using the good wood will be quick to let you know, but I have noticed others who are using wood from an unknown woodshop (usually China) will often say something like "Our boards come from the same place as many other top brands" or similar. In that case, I just don't buy whatever they are selling. Pretty simple.

You seem to have a nose for tracking down these micro brands, maybe start a “micro brands that i’m stoked on” thread?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.
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I’ve never heard of Stoned or Fellas - so i looked em up on IG. Stoned looks to have there “420 lifestyle” brand established, not my thing but kinda sick - I DM’d them (like a man 8)) so maybe we’ll find out what wood.

Fellas seems small and pretty niche in Prague (300 followers on IG) and they haven’t posted in a month, and it’s all in Czech through their eshop. That’s in the too hard basket for me, but good luck finding out more with that one. Or is there a different Felas you a referring to?

What various british brands are you hyped on? I’m curious to know what’s out there too.
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Thanks! I actually messaged both brands and neither responded, but I've had two stoned boards and I love them! I think they are BBS. I vaguely know a guy in Barcelona who used to ride for them, and he said it's similar to who he rides for now (DGK) soooo probably is BBS. Doesn't feel like Dwindle. The Stoned boards are very solid.
I haven't ridden the Felas yet but i imagine they're HLC or Dwindle.

I used to be hyped on Descent boards, made by Chris Pulman. They were made at Dwindle but had some good shapes and were snappy. He has closed the business now and has a pro board on Heroin instead. He is the nicest skater I've ever met, skated with him twice.
I also used to love Ekta, Milk and Landscape. Milk were very good, may have been chapman but not sure. Ekta was BBS I believe as I met the guy who made them and he was also distributing Killing Floor boards. Just speculation still though
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Nice. I didn’t know much about Chris Pulman, but after watching his smile piece, that was some real shit and instant fan. Yeah, same here I haven’t heard back from Stoned, and plenty of times brands are shifty with their wood/manufacture - and that’s a deal breaker for me. But if you get to like the shape and how skate then all power to you. Ultimately though, if a company isn’t open and honest with their product, then I’m out; I’m 100% agree with @mbrimson, so I’ll just quote him;

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More often than not, anyone who is using the good wood will be quick to let you know, but I have noticed others who are using wood from an unknown woodshop (usually China) will often say something like "Our boards come from the same place as many other top brands" or similar. In that case, I just don't buy whatever they are selling. Pretty simple.

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You seem to have a nose for tracking down these micro brands, maybe start a “micro brands that i’m stoked on” thread?

The funny thing though, is quality of boards out of the netherworld (China I am guessing) has actually come up a lot, as per some boards I had pass through my hands a while back from a small local brand, from an unknown supplier, but none of which I had seen before - different laser size font to others, often on the bottom of the boards between the back bolts.

The people who skated them that I know were pretty much all left wanting another one, as they said they were crispy, stayed strong and outlasted other boards they had broken in the past.

Unfortunately I didn't know where they came from and the small brand apparently had a long waiting list to get more of them, which may have even been cancelled now anyway (some unknown woodshops are out of supplies indefinitely, so it seems) which is unfortunate.

The hardest thing is the unknown, especially if you cannot stand on a board, or even look at one in a shop before you buy it, even if they do list all dimensions for them, things can still turn out not so good, especially if you are used to a certain feel of wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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Is there a thread or some details on smaller independent brands somewhere?
I like to support smaller brands often like Stoned, Felas, various British brands etc. A lot of the brands on this list are fairly well established. I'm looking for small brands to support and wondering where they're made.
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I’ve never heard of Stoned or Fellas - so i looked em up on IG. Stoned looks to have there “420 lifestyle” brand established, not my thing but kinda sick - I DM’d them (like a man 8)) so maybe we’ll find out what wood.

Fellas seems small and pretty niche in Prague (300 followers on IG) and they haven’t posted in a month, and it’s all in Czech through their eshop. That’s in the too hard basket for me, but good luck finding out more with that one. Or is there a different Felas you a referring to?

What various british brands are you hyped on? I’m curious to know what’s out there too.
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Thanks! I actually messaged both brands and neither responded, but I've had two stoned boards and I love them! I think they are BBS. I vaguely know a guy in Barcelona who used to ride for them, and he said it's similar to who he rides for now (DGK) soooo probably is BBS. Doesn't feel like Dwindle. The Stoned boards are very solid.
I haven't ridden the Felas yet but i imagine they're HLC or Dwindle.

I used to be hyped on Descent boards, made by Chris Pulman. They were made at Dwindle but had some good shapes and were snappy. He has closed the business now and has a pro board on Heroin instead. He is the nicest skater I've ever met, skated with him twice.
I also used to love Ekta, Milk and Landscape. Milk were very good, may have been chapman but not sure. Ekta was BBS I believe as I met the guy who made them and he was also distributing Killing Floor boards. Just speculation still though
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Nice. I didn’t know much about Chris Pulman, but after watching his smile piece, that was some real shit and instant fan. Yeah, same here I haven’t heard back from Stoned, and plenty of times brands are shifty with their wood/manufacture - and that’s a deal breaker for me. But if you get to like the shape and how skate then all power to you. Ultimately though, if a company isn’t open and honest with their product, then I’m out; I’m 100% agree with @mbrimson, so I’ll just quote him;

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More often than not, anyone who is using the good wood will be quick to let you know, but I have noticed others who are using wood from an unknown woodshop (usually China) will often say something like "Our boards come from the same place as many other top brands" or similar. In that case, I just don't buy whatever they are selling. Pretty simple.

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You seem to have a nose for tracking down these micro brands, maybe start a “micro brands that i’m stoked on” thread?
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The funny thing though, is quality of boards out of the netherworld (China I am guessing) has actually come up a lot, as per some boards I had pass through my hands a while back from a small local brand, from an unknown supplier, but none of which I had seen before - different laser size font to others, often on the bottom of the boards between the back bolts.

The people who skated them that I know were pretty much all left wanting another one, as they said they were crispy, stayed strong and outlasted other boards they had broken in the past.

Unfortunately I didn't know where they came from and the small brand apparently had a long waiting list to get more of them, which may have even been cancelled now anyway (some unknown woodshops are out of supplies indefinitely, so it seems) which is unfortunate.

The hardest thing is the unknown, especially if you cannot stand on a board, or even look at one in a shop before you buy it, even if they do list all dimensions for them, things can still turn out not so good, especially if you are used to a certain feel of wood.

Fear of the unknown 100%. Nothing sucks worse than buying a deck of a favourite brand only to find out it’s changed wood shops and you’ve got something completely different. I now really value brands that stick with the same wood to avoid this headache. And wether it’s PS or R7, I like the extra effort of putting the details on the deck so you know what your getting (of course all the companies who only use BBS - but I only really trust the ones that tell you like DLX, FA, Polar, 917 etc etc).

I’ve got zero issues with China wood, like Dwindle, but the sneaky sneaky nonsense really puts me off (looking at you Crail - even though now with shape guide/“better wood” - you lost me years ago). I even like the factory tours and stuff; George, Schmitt, Rodney etc all that stuff is gold.

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You seem to have a nose for tracking down these micro brands, maybe start a “micro brands that i’m stoked on” thread?
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Fear of the unknown 100%. Nothing sucks worse than buying a deck of a favourite brand only to find out it’s changed wood shops and you’ve got something completely different. I now really value brands that stick with the same wood to avoid this headache. And wether it’s PS or R7, I like the extra effort of putting the details on the deck so you know what your getting (of course all the companies who only use BBS - but I only really trust the ones that tell you like DLX, FA, Polar, 917 etc etc).

I’ve got zero issues with China wood, like Dwindle, but the sneaky sneaky nonsense really puts me off (looking at you Crail - even though now with shape guide/“better wood” - you lost me years ago). I even like the factory tours and stuff; George, Schmitt, Rodney etc all that stuff is gold.
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I like that DSM puts the dims on the front truck mounting bolts and lists them on the website. The single deck press ensures a consistent feeling deck every time, something time-poor adults will appreciate.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 07, 2022, 04:50:50 PM

Quote from: Sila on October 31, 2021, 03:23:24 AM

Does Dwindle have any shapes close to the fuller Real/DLX/BBS shapes but not square? I can't get to a shop to see anything and the last R7 I had was a bit too tapered at the tail for my liking.

This is reviving an old question, but a friend recently skated an Almost deck that was so squared off, I had to take a few pics of it and find where people in the past had asked about a more full shaped Dwindle option.

The pics didn't really take well but I can post if anyone is interested, but here is the stock image, which still doesn't show how "full" or square the board really is for the shape of it.

This one is 8.5 x 32.1 with a 14.25 wb, which reminds me of some Alien Workshop decks I bought recently for someone else who wanted them, or of a FA board I got second hand from someone else recently too.

(https://www.surfstitch.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-ss-master-catalog/default/dw86b53fc7/images/10023743GRN/GREEN-BOARDSPORTS-SKATE-ALMOST-DECKS-10023743GRN_1.JPG)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 07, 2022, 06:47:07 PM

https://www.instagram.com/xindaskateboardfactory/tv/CYVTqIaqT9w/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Chinese factory foxen Posted a short show room clip. I spotted a DGK and cliche

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 07, 2022, 08:07:02 PM

Quote from: TwisT on January 07, 2022, 06:47:07 PM

https://www.instagram.com/xindaskateboardfactory/tv/CYVTqIaqT9w/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Chinese factory foxen Posted a short show room clip. I spotted a DGK and cliche

On a big screen, there are a ton more than that (if not the brands, at least graphics I recognise), lots of major brands like DGK, Cliche (as you said) and others including Zero, Flip and more, but I wonder if these are boards that they have bought to show and tell with or if they are one of the suppliers of Ali Express (lots of those copied big brand names), more so than anything else.

I took a screen shot, but things just go super blurry when up too close.

(https://i.ibb.co/ct6XMb8/Xinda-showroom.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mpc5W81)

Their boards look well made and they certainly seem to do enough of them.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPknxDBFFF4/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 07, 2022, 08:20:14 PM

Not jumping to conclusions but I know they are already on Alibaba / Ali Express, even saying it in this post too.

Just thought it was interesting...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYDBnByJezx/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Shuh on January 08, 2022, 03:21:08 AM

Quasi latest batch will be BBS i wonder what happened?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: toque on January 09, 2022, 06:17:21 PM

Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I'll throw it out there...

Been on the longer DLX 8.62 shape for a while and would like something a bit thinner. Is anyone currently making an 8.5 with a 14.75 (or bigger) wheelbase??

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 10, 2022, 03:01:44 AM

Quote from: toque on January 09, 2022, 06:17:21 PM

Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I'll throw it out there...

Been on the longer DLX 8.62 shape for a while and would like something a bit thinner. Is anyone currently making an 8.5 with a 14.75 (or bigger) wheelbase??

The last DLX 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb was a while ago, but if you were in AU I still have half a dozen, but I seem to recall seeing a new one in a catalog that just came out or might be about to come out, as I thought I hadn't seen that shape in a while now - more companies going for shorter wheelbases, rather than longer ones nowdays.

The only other BBS wood options of the same shape were from Element in a couple of runs and more recently the Evan Smith pro board from Uma Landsleds, but from both companies, their measurements are a bit here and there, often listing that particular board as 14.5 wb or their normal one as 14.75 wb when they are not, so might be best to check in person.

If you were after any woodshop, there are a couple of others that had longer wheelbases and not so wide boards, which seemed odd, but might still be around but right this minute I cannot think what they are, or maybe even a 917 board in 8.38 (which is 1-2mm under a normal 8.5") which is also BBS.

All up the 8.6 is only a single mm or two up from the normal 8.5 boards, so there is very little actually in it, even though when I put the 8.5 and the 8.6 side by side, it looks like the 8.6 is a fair bit bigger.

With the longer wheelbase the board definitely feels way more stable, which is why people I know wanted them for bigger transition / vert ramps more than anything, but those guys don't go through boards at all quickly, so there wasn't as much interest in that 8.5 size, which might have something to do with it being left out a lot, given more of those guys prefer the 8.6 anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on January 10, 2022, 08:40:54 AM

Anyone got info on Cleaver skateboards?

Are they still Clutch or back to BBS? And what's the nose and tail like on those? Pics online looks pretty square, like a Hockey / FA.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ratscavage on January 10, 2022, 05:59:20 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2021, 10:03:24 PM

CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 +

Last updated as of 7th January 2022...

Adding this: Halloween Stickers Skateboards is South Central

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lazyskater on January 10, 2022, 06:52:20 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on January 10, 2022, 08:40:54 AM

Anyone got info on Cleaver skateboards?

Are they still Clutch or back to BBS? And what's the nose and tail like on those? Pics online looks pretty square, like a Hockey / FA.

I just got back from Barcelona and picked one up cause it was the cheapest I could find that was bbs. Good board good shape. Square nose and mellowish concave

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 11, 2022, 04:20:28 AM

Quote from: ratscavage on January 10, 2022, 05:59:20 PM

Adding this: Halloween Stickers Skateboards is South Central

Thanks!

Always cool to have some of the smaller brands / harder to get info on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 11, 2022, 04:51:01 AM

From the other day on my travels going into a few places (AU), these stood out to me:

101 now reissued with normal boards on Dwindle, eg 8.0 and 8.25 popsicles.

Doom Sayers had a different board I don't recall seeing anywhere, no made in or warning stickers at all, fairly long flat kicks, medium to deep concave through the rail. One board from a while back had "China" on it, not even "Made in China" which was a bit weird.

Rip N Dip decks had a "Made in USA" sticker on each of them, fairly decent concave with almost spoon shaped kicks, plain / natural ply for all layers, maybe a bit more solid in the feel of them too.

Primitive was still BBS for the boards in the shop here with Made in Mexico on the stickers.

DGK (including team flowers graphic) all as usual Made in Mexico stickers (BBS wood) - to note some DGK boards had been seen with China stickers or seemed to be in other woodshops.

Plan B boards were on two very distinctively different board shapes and feels, no other indication as to where they were made or anything like that, so unless they were from HLC with a mellow and a steep mold, I wouldn't really have any other info about them, other than they looked and felt significantly different.

Powell and Mini Logo boards both seemed flat, flexible and not particularly good boards, just holding and standing on them, so I was not at all impressed with how cheap they seem to be. Sure I get that they might be the bottom price range, but from that example, I would not be at all interested in them.

Dwindle Globe boards, as I posted elsewhere already seemed super solid, almost thick ply layers of natural wood, but did not seem overly heavy and were very stiff, not at all flexy when I stood on them, but just seemed so very different to the other Dwindle boards in the shop, almost as if they were not from the same place, but more so they were just a different option to the other boards made by Dwindle.

Everything else I looked at and stood on was as expected, same as one the list, including Alltimers, April, 917, Alien Workshop, Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Antihero, Real, Krooked, Magenta, Passport and Sci Fi Fantasy from BBS, Creature, Santa Cruz, New Deal reissues (Dwindle), GX1000, WKND, Sour, Studio, Toy Machine, Zero, and all the Dwindle brands, Almost, Enjoi, Blind, etc.

There are a few other local Aussie brands that are on wood I am not familiar with but could be similar to Zero, Toy Machine, or some of those, but I don't know the woodshop so will not say the brands by name, but they all come from the same local distributor and seem like fairly decent boards and are solid to stand on anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 11, 2022, 07:04:46 AM

The heart supply has moved from ps sticks to dwindle

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nosneb on January 11, 2022, 07:09:42 AM

I was looking at a few dgk decks and noticed the mexico wood is fuller and deeper concave and noticed ones with china sticker is mellower and pointy almost like how old kayo boards used to be. The china wood reminded me of the OG shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: foureyedjim on January 11, 2022, 07:11:42 AM

Quote from: Shuh on January 08, 2022, 03:21:08 AM

Quasi latest batch will be BBS i wonder what happened?

Take it with a grain of salt, but word is that PS Stix is blowing it and can't keep up. FA switched over because PS refused to do some holographic print so FA said fucked it and moved on.

Personally, I've tried to measure multiple Quasi boards and none of them matched up with the length that I wanted. Seems like they're just printing graphics on whatever standard shapes they have, which is bullshit for me, who's pretty picky about my board length. So for the time being I would be careful ordering older graphics from Quasi online. Go to your local and measure if care to.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 11, 2022, 01:40:19 PM

Quote from: TwisT on January 11, 2022, 07:04:46 AM

The heart supply has moved from ps sticks to dwindle

Quote from: nosneb on January 11, 2022, 07:09:42 AM

I was looking at a few dgk decks and noticed the mexico wood is fuller and deeper concave and noticed ones with china sticker is mellower and pointy almost like how old kayo boards used to be. The china wood reminded me of the OG shape.

Thanks!

Re DGK: I recall TwisT also saying the roses team board was from China, from a shop in the US, so I wonder how many more, whether it is just to keep up with demand or a cheaper option for team / budget boards or what with regard to the different boards.

Any difference in price, specific graphics / new ones on other wood, older ones on BBS, or even specific shop / location getting them?

Guessing both are USA.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 12, 2022, 01:55:28 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 11, 2022, 07:04:46 AM

The heart supply has moved from ps sticks to dwindle

When were they PS? I remember seeing some prime ones and maybe some clutch but I would be interested in checking out a PS one

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 12, 2022, 02:06:51 AM

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Quote from: nosneb on January 11, 2022, 07:09:42 AM

I was looking at a few dgk decks and noticed the mexico wood is fuller and deeper concave and noticed ones with china sticker is mellower and pointy almost like how old kayo boards used to be. The china wood reminded me of the OG shape.

Yeah in general if it's really flat, doesn't have any markings, and doesn't have a South Central "e mold" sticker then it's usually chinese. My theory is that when they were setting up their industry they either bought old molds or more likely just copied the molds from the 90s. PGI boards are like that too.

It does seem like we are starting to see a lot more modern style steep n spoony concave mystery wood lately so that may be changing.

Also those kayo/bbs DGK boards are deceptively pleasant. They skate mellower than they look if that makes any sense. I skated one for a month when I was deployed and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 10:17:09 AM

I emailed Theories and this is what they said:

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We have had to use a variety of factory sources for all of our brands throughout the pandemic. Out of nowehere in April of 2020 we found out we couldn't get new BBS stock for 11 months. So it threw us into a loop trying to maintain stock for all of our brands. Currently the new Hopps and Theories seasons are BBS and they will continue to be on BBS wood through Spring and Summer of 2022. But the wood situation has been very volatile and tricky after BBS became unavailable completely for most of 2020 and into 2021. So we had to develop more diversity to protect the brands and make sure we would have a wood source no matter what happend. So there's a chance we may have to supplement our wood with another source one season in the future for one or the other brand. But our goal is to maintain BBS as the wood source for Hopps and Theories in perpetuity.
Thanks for checking in and I hope that info helps.

So it sounds like it’s a lottery at the moment but stabilizing back to BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 12, 2022, 10:51:19 AM

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When were they PS? I remember seeing some prime ones and maybe some clutch but I would be interested in checking out a PS one

I thought they were ps, but honestly I’ve only ever seen their target boards irl. either way at it’s dwindle now

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2022, 12:12:15 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 10:17:09 AM

I emailed Theories and this is what they said:

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We have had to use a variety of factory sources for all of our brands throughout the pandemic. Out of nowehere in April of 2020 we found out we couldn't get new BBS stock for 11 months. So it threw us into a loop trying to maintain stock for all of our brands. Currently the new Hopps and Theories seasons are BBS and they will continue to be on BBS wood through Spring and Summer of 2022. But the wood situation has been very volatile and tricky after BBS became unavailable completely for most of 2020 and into 2021. So we had to develop more diversity to protect the brands and make sure we would have a wood source no matter what happend. So there's a chance we may have to supplement our wood with another source one season in the future for one or the other brand. But our goal is to maintain BBS as the wood source for Hopps and Theories in perpetuity.
Thanks for checking in and I hope that info helps.
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So it sounds like it’s a lottery at the moment but stabilizing back to BBS

Thanks for that.

It definitely rings true that things went from "happy days" to "WTF" pretty quickly for a lot of places.

Also interesting people like to name BBS but don't want to name other woodshops, almost like the perceived notion of one is good and the other(s) not so good, depending on where their wood came from.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on January 12, 2022, 12:56:41 PM

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The heart supply has moved from ps sticks to dwindle
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When were they PS? I remember seeing some prime ones and maybe some clutch but I would be interested in checking out a PS one
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I thought they were ps, but honestly I’ve only ever seen their target boards irl. either way at it’s dwindle now

Pretty sure they’ve been dwindle from the start because they had the impact technology decks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 01:22:28 PM

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Quasi latest batch will be BBS i wonder what happened?
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Take it with a grain of salt, but word is that PS Stix is blowing it and can't keep up. FA switched over because PS refused to do some holographic print so FA said fucked it and moved on.

Personally, I've tried to measure multiple Quasi boards and none of them matched up with the length that I wanted. Seems like they're just printing graphics on whatever standard shapes they have, which is bullshit for me, who's pretty picky about my board length. So for the time being I would be careful ordering older graphics from Quasi online. Go to your local and measure if care to.

Quasi measures fine for me. Their length is measured with the concave not straight across. I've had many of their decks and they're always identical for a given shape, however, they have a few different shapes at a given width. You can easily tell by the WB measurement which it is and the Proto is always its own shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 12, 2022, 01:50:46 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on January 12, 2022, 12:56:41 PM

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The heart supply has moved from ps sticks to dwindle
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When were they PS? I remember seeing some prime ones and maybe some clutch but I would be interested in checking out a PS one
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I thought they were ps, but honestly I’ve only ever seen their target boards irl. either way at it’s dwindle now
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Pretty sure they’ve been dwindle from the start because they had the impact technology decks

They were definitely prime early on in the pandemic. I had one in my cart until I spotted the "U5" mark on one of the pics. I haven't really looked at one before or since so I can't say when they switched over though.

Someone should really sticky a thread about board measurement and why your quasi isn't actually short (cnc is usually pretty accurate) or your bbs isn't actually long, they're just measured differently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 12, 2022, 02:00:19 PM

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I emailed Theories and this is what they said:

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We have had to use a variety of factory sources for all of our brands throughout the pandemic. Out of nowehere in April of 2020 we found out we couldn't get new BBS stock for 11 months. So it threw us into a loop trying to maintain stock for all of our brands. Currently the new Hopps and Theories seasons are BBS and they will continue to be on BBS wood through Spring and Summer of 2022. But the wood situation has been very volatile and tricky after BBS became unavailable completely for most of 2020 and into 2021. So we had to develop more diversity to protect the brands and make sure we would have a wood source no matter what happend. So there's a chance we may have to supplement our wood with another source one season in the future for one or the other brand. But our goal is to maintain BBS as the wood source for Hopps and Theories in perpetuity.
Thanks for checking in and I hope that info helps.
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So it sounds like it’s a lottery at the moment but stabilizing back to BBS
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Thanks for that.

It definitely rings true that things went from "happy days" to "WTF" pretty quickly for a lot of places.

Also interesting people like to name BBS but don't want to name other woodshops, almost like the perceived notion of one is good and the other(s) not so good, depending on where their wood came from.

BBS is to wood what bones is to bearings. It's the one everyone knows, and they have a well earned reputation for quality. I think maybe he wasn't naming the others more because they've used a few and he didn't want to list them all though. I know last time I went and flipped the racks at radio there were theories brands on bbs, clutch, dwindle, and some other mystery wood that felt like PGI.

I admire the transparency though, and it's always nice to have more confirmation that it was in fact the issues we've been speculating about. I really don't think anyone is switching woodshops for any reason other than supply at the moment - it's slowly moving back towards "normal" but it's still very much get em wherever you can for the time being.

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Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2022, 02:01:16 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on January 12, 2022, 01:50:46 PM

Someone should really sticky a thread about board measurement and why your quasi isn't actually short (cnc is usually pretty accurate) or your bbs isn't actually long, they're just measured differently.

I know it does come up from time to time, as if there should be a key to go with certain brands, or at least help with things, eg:

WC = measured with the concave
SA = measured straight across

That can have some significant differences like this:

PS Stix Quasi boards in 8.25 width are listed as 32.25 WC and 31.85 SA

BBS Real boards in 8.25 width are listed as 32 SA which would be 32.35 WC

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General consensus is the measurements should be straight across, as per most of the information about boards from almost all the major and other woodshops, brands and shops nowdays, which is why in some cases there is confusion over the actual lengths of boards, if they are measured differently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2022, 02:06:34 PM

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I emailed Theories and this is what they said:

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We have had to use a variety of factory sources for all of our brands throughout the pandemic. Out of nowehere in April of 2020 we found out we couldn't get new BBS stock for 11 months. So it threw us into a loop trying to maintain stock for all of our brands. Currently the new Hopps and Theories seasons are BBS and they will continue to be on BBS wood through Spring and Summer of 2022. But the wood situation has been very volatile and tricky after BBS became unavailable completely for most of 2020 and into 2021. So we had to develop more diversity to protect the brands and make sure we would have a wood source no matter what happend. So there's a chance we may have to supplement our wood with another source one season in the future for one or the other brand. But our goal is to maintain BBS as the wood source for Hopps and Theories in perpetuity.
Thanks for checking in and I hope that info helps.
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So it sounds like it’s a lottery at the moment but stabilizing back to BBS
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Thanks for that.

It definitely rings true that things went from "happy days" to "WTF" pretty quickly for a lot of places.

Also interesting people like to name BBS but don't want to name other woodshops, almost like the perceived notion of one is good and the other(s) not so good, depending on where their wood came from.
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BBS is to wood what bones is to bearings. It's the one everyone knows, and they have a well earned reputation for quality. I think maybe he wasn't naming the others more because they've used a few and he didn't want to list them all though. I know last time I went and flipped the racks at radio there were theories brands on bbs, clutch, dwindle, and some other mystery wood that felt like PGI.

I admire the transparency though, and it's always nice to have more confirmation that it was in fact the issues we've been speculating about. I really don't think anyone is switching woodshops for any reason other than supply at the moment - it's slowly moving back towards "normal" but it's still very much get em wherever you can for the time being.

Definitely!

I have had more than one message asking for brands to be removed from certain woodshop lists as it was hurting their business and I am very happy to help them and remove the brand and info. It just goes to show that people do look at this list and often make decisions based on what woodshop a brand uses too, without even having tried the board of that woodshop too, in some cases.

Personal opinion is everything in places like this though.

I like one brand more than others.

Someone else might like a different brand and that is just how it goes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: joaqp on January 12, 2022, 07:35:52 PM

Did Quasi switch to BBS??

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Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2022, 08:01:43 PM

Quote from: joaqp on January 12, 2022, 07:35:52 PM

Did Quasi switch to BBS??

I believe it has been building to that for a while, more info in the Quasi thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108613.0

Even going back a page on this thread, there is a pretty solid explanation why they are changing, but the first boards to change were the Dane boards, as per the one in your pic. Then as per info from other posts and most recent one below, it seems like the new 2022 range will all be BBS, but that is just what people have said.

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Quasi latest batch will be BBS i wonder what happened?

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Take it with a grain of salt, but word is that PS Stix is blowing it and can't keep up. FA switched over because PS refused to do some holographic print so FA said fucked it and moved on.

Personally, I've tried to measure multiple Quasi boards and none of them matched up with the length that I wanted. Seems like they're just printing graphics on whatever standard shapes they have, which is bullshit for me, who's pretty picky about my board length. So for the time being I would be careful ordering older graphics from Quasi online. Go to your local and measure if care to.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.

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Post by: disappointed on January 13, 2022, 12:24:40 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.

I’m hoping this is a one-off supply issue thing. I prefer PS over BBS; it’s thinner, lighter and has that PS feel (“give and give back”). Gradually all the old PS brands (Habitat, Alien, FA, 917 etc etc) have moved over to BBS due to their huge production capacity (and of course high quality). If Quasi also bounces then that’ll suck, I’m stocking up now on PS Quasi just in case.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 13, 2022, 01:15:03 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.

It has been said the next 2022 range is entirely on BBS, but I guess that is just a wait and see really.

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Post by: Woodshop on January 13, 2022, 01:15:15 AM

Quote from: disappointed on January 13, 2022, 12:24:40 AM

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The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.
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I’m hoping this is a one-off supply issue thing. I prefer PS over BBS; it’s thinner, lighter and has that PS feel (“give and give back”). Gradually all the old PS brands (Habitat, Alien, FA, 917 etc etc) have moved over to BBS due to their huge production capacity (and of course high quality). If Quasi also bounces then that’ll suck, I’m stocking up now on PS Quasi just in case.

Definitely seems like a lot of the major brands in question have had issues with PS Stix more so than just wanted to swap to BBS, so from a business perspective, it might be a whole lot easier for them with the change.

As to people who prefer PS Stix, yes definitely stock up while you can, but maybe check out other brands still on PS Stix, in particular WKND and GX1000 seem to still be putting out a lot of decent decks here in Australia.

I have also heard (and seen) older PS Stix decks seem to hold up a whole lot better than newer ones, but that can also be subjective, between different people, none who break boards much, but skate them until they are almost completely done anyway, as per a few used boards I have from them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 13, 2022, 01:40:03 AM

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The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.
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I’m hoping this is a one-off supply issue thing. I prefer PS over BBS; it’s thinner, lighter and has that PS feel (“give and give back”). Gradually all the old PS brands (Habitat, Alien, FA, 917 etc etc) have moved over to BBS due to their huge production capacity (and of course high quality). If Quasi also bounces then that’ll suck, I’m stocking up now on PS Quasi just in case.
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Definitely seems like a lot of the major brands in question have had issues with PS Stix more so than just wanted to swap to BBS, so from a business perspective, it might be a whole lot easier for them with the change.

As to people who prefer PS Stix, yes definitely stock up while you can, but maybe check out other brands still on PS Stix, in particular WKND and GX1000 seem to still be putting out a lot of decent decks here in Australia.

I have also heard (and seen) older PS Stix decks seem to hold up a whole lot better than newer ones, but that can also be subjective, between different people, none who break boards much, but skate them until they are almost completely done anyway, as per a few used boards I have from them.

Yeah, BBS really seem to have it together - quality wood, reliable production, much bigger production capacity - so from a business side it can’t be a coincidence that the BBS list just gets longer and longer.
Which sucks for me, especially if Quasi jumps too. I just don’t really connect with WKND, and GX even less - but I can go 90s sand off the graphics if things get desperate! :)

I’m probably on my own here, but with PS I can go 8 or even 8.125 and still got it, but even an 8 in BBS feels clunky and often have short wheelbase 14” (and 8.125 just feels huge). My favourite BBS size is the 7.875 with the longer wheelbase (Polar shape).

I have to agree that the older PS hold up great. I’m actually skating a BA 3D 8.1 and it’s holding up well despite its age, and not always landing bolts surprised it just doesn’t break! Also, a PS Jason Adams Elephant cruiser I pulled off the wall, it’s also surprising snappy even after heavy wear.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 13, 2022, 01:46:26 AM

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Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 12, 2022, 08:41:35 PM
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The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.
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I’m hoping this is a one-off supply issue thing. I prefer PS over BBS; it’s thinner, lighter and has that PS feel (“give and give back”). Gradually all the old PS brands (Habitat, Alien, FA, 917 etc etc) have moved over to BBS due to their huge production capacity (and of course high quality). If Quasi also bounces then that’ll suck, I’m stocking up now on PS Quasi just in case.
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Definitely seems like a lot of the major brands in question have had issues with PS Stix more so than just wanted to swap to BBS, so from a business perspective, it might be a whole lot easier for them with the change.

As to people who prefer PS Stix, yes definitely stock up while you can, but maybe check out other brands still on PS Stix, in particular WKND and GX1000 seem to still be putting out a lot of decent decks here in Australia.

I have also heard (and seen) older PS Stix decks seem to hold up a whole lot better than newer ones, but that can also be subjective, between different people, none who break boards much, but skate them until they are almost completely done anyway, as per a few used boards I have from them.
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Yeah, BBS really seem to have it together - quality wood, reliable production, much bigger production capacity - so from a business side it can’t be a coincidence that the BBS list just gets longer and longer.
Which sucks for me, especially if Quasi jumps too. I just don’t really connect with WKND, and GX even less - but I can go 90s sand off the graphics if things get desperate! :)

I’m probably on my own here, but with PS I can go 8 or even 8.125 and still got it, but even an 8 in BBS feels clunky and often have short wheelbase 14” (and 8.125 just feels huge). My favourite BBS size is the 7.875 with the longer wheelbase (Polar shape).

I have to agree that the older PS hold up great. I’m actually skating a BA 3D 8.1 and it’s holding up well despite its age, and not always landing bolts surprised it just doesn’t break! Also, a PS Jason Adams Elephant cruiser I pulled off the wall, it’s also surprising snappy even after heavy wear.

If you were anywhere round Brisbane or south east QLD, I would be happy to give you a couple of PS Stix boards too - just get rid of the graphics.

Most people now who I skate with don't want anything as small as 8 or 8.1 so they are not going anywhere.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 13, 2022, 02:04:02 AM

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The only Quasi deck that is BBS is the Dane Barker.
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I’m hoping this is a one-off supply issue thing. I prefer PS over BBS; it’s thinner, lighter and has that PS feel (“give and give back”). Gradually all the old PS brands (Habitat, Alien, FA, 917 etc etc) have moved over to BBS due to their huge production capacity (and of course high quality). If Quasi also bounces then that’ll suck, I’m stocking up now on PS Quasi just in case.
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Definitely seems like a lot of the major brands in question have had issues with PS Stix more so than just wanted to swap to BBS, so from a business perspective, it might be a whole lot easier for them with the change.

As to people who prefer PS Stix, yes definitely stock up while you can, but maybe check out other brands still on PS Stix, in particular WKND and GX1000 seem to still be putting out a lot of decent decks here in Australia.

I have also heard (and seen) older PS Stix decks seem to hold up a whole lot better than newer ones, but that can also be subjective, between different people, none who break boards much, but skate them until they are almost completely done anyway, as per a few used boards I have from them.
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Yeah, BBS really seem to have it together - quality wood, reliable production, much bigger production capacity - so from a business side it can’t be a coincidence that the BBS list just gets longer and longer.
Which sucks for me, especially if Quasi jumps too. I just don’t really connect with WKND, and GX even less - but I can go 90s sand off the graphics if things get desperate! :)

I’m probably on my own here, but with PS I can go 8 or even 8.125 and still got it, but even an 8 in BBS feels clunky and often have short wheelbase 14” (and 8.125 just feels huge). My favourite BBS size is the 7.875 with the longer wheelbase (Polar shape).

I have to agree that the older PS hold up great. I’m actually skating a BA 3D 8.1 and it’s holding up well despite its age, and not always landing bolts surprised it just doesn’t break! Also, a PS Jason Adams Elephant cruiser I pulled off the wall, it’s also surprising snappy even after heavy wear.
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If you were anywhere round Brisbane or south east QLD, I would be happy to give you a couple of PS Stix boards too - just get rid of the graphics.

Most people now who I skate with don't want anything as small as 8 or 8.1 so they are not going anywhere.

Cheers mate, I’m down in Danistan, but cheers. I’ve got a fair wood pile for now; then I guess I’ll just end up on 7.875 polar. I hope they don’t discontinue that!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 13, 2022, 02:57:23 AM

Quote from: disappointed on January 13, 2022, 02:04:02 AM

Cheers mate, I’m down in Danistan, but cheers. I’ve got a fair wood pile for now; then I guess I’ll just end up on 7.875 polar. I hope they don’t discontinue that!

Ha!

It took me a sec to work out what was going on, but then it came up, and it clicked.

The good old southern state of fun, hey?

Easy though. Re Polar boards in that size - there should always be enough of those around for you too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 13, 2022, 07:53:46 AM

I might be in the minority but I’ve had a lot of inconsistency with PS boards. They lose pop quick or feel soggy from the get go and the wood chips easily. BBS seem to last much longer and I don’t think I know a single person that prefers PS. If Quasi does a BBS Proto I’d be in heaven.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 13, 2022, 01:47:41 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 13, 2022, 07:53:46 AM

I might be in the minority but I’ve had a lot of inconsistency with PS boards. They lose pop quick or feel soggy from the get go and the wood chips easily. BBS seem to last much longer and I don’t think I know a single person that prefers PS. If Quasi does a BBS Proto I’d be in heaven.

That is more like the common theme, from people talking on here.

I guess that is why a lot of people are not so keen on PS Stix, as well as major companies switching to a different woodshop.

Back in the day PS Stix was amazing and I still have boards from back then that are straight, rock solid, not at all soggy, especially my old Black Label decks, as those things just seem to last forever.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: foureyedjim on January 13, 2022, 07:08:44 PM

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Quasi latest batch will be BBS i wonder what happened?
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Take it with a grain of salt, but word is that PS Stix is blowing it and can't keep up. FA switched over because PS refused to do some holographic print so FA said fucked it and moved on.

Personally, I've tried to measure multiple Quasi boards and none of them matched up with the length that I wanted. Seems like they're just printing graphics on whatever standard shapes they have, which is bullshit for me, who's pretty picky about my board length. So for the time being I would be careful ordering older graphics from Quasi online. Go to your local and measure if care to.
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Quasi measures fine for me. Their length is measured with the concave not straight across. I've had many of their decks and they're always identical for a given shape, however, they have a few different shapes at a given width. You can easily tell by the WB measurement which it is and the Proto is always its own shape.

Speaking from experience, I’ve held two different boards that were both supposed to be 33” long and one of them was definitely shorter. Even measuring with concave it’s 32.5 which ended up not being a huge deal but still a mistake nonetheless

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 14, 2022, 04:37:35 AM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 13, 2022, 07:53:46 AM

I might be in the minority but I’ve had a lot of inconsistency with PS boards. They lose pop quick or feel soggy from the get go and the wood chips easily. BBS seem to last much longer and I don’t think I know a single person that prefers PS. If Quasi does a BBS Proto I’d be in heaven.

PS wood is thin and has a lot of flex, which a lot of people mistake for being soggy. It also tends to throw timing way off at first, similar to 5/6 ply CF decks. If I'm switching between the two it usually takes at least an hour or two before things start to feel right.

I've probably skated 3/4 dozen of them in the last few years and across that time I've had exactly 2 that I would consider soggy or dead (one was a wknd deck I had imported from overseas, the other was an 8.25 proto) before their time, which is about what I'd expect. Now if you want something that's genuinely soggy and dead straight from the factory I think I have a control deck around here somewhere...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on January 14, 2022, 04:49:02 AM

i was looking at some palace boards and the 8.38 shape (chewy pro models etc) supposedly has an 14.84 wheelbase while being just a little longer than 32. is that true or are the dimensions online messed up? sounds like a really wild shape

i took the dimensions from skatedeluxe (they have nose and tail lengths, wheelbases etc) and it added up but still seems weird, like who would put such a long wheelbase on a deck like that

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 14, 2022, 05:26:14 AM

Quote from: roba on January 14, 2022, 04:49:02 AM

i was looking at some palace boards and the 8.38 shape (chewy pro models etc) supposedly has an 14.84 wheelbase while being just a little longer than 32. is that true or are the dimensions online messed up? sounds like a really wild shape

i took the dimensions from skatedeluxe (they have nose and tail lengths, wheelbases etc) and it added up but still seems weird, like who would put such a long wheelbase on a deck like that

That’s what it says on palace site - 8.38 Chewy pro has 14.84 wheelbase. And only 31.13 length. Wild.
Cool that it seems a genuinely pro spec shape that and not just generic dimensions.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 14, 2022, 09:20:04 AM

Quote from: roba on January 14, 2022, 04:49:02 AM

i was looking at some palace boards and the 8.38 shape (chewy pro models etc) supposedly has an 14.84 wheelbase while being just a little longer than 32. is that true or are the dimensions online messed up? sounds like a really wild shape

i took the dimensions from skatedeluxe (they have nose and tail lengths, wheelbases etc) and it added up but still seems weird, like who would put such a long wheelbase on a deck like that

OK it is the palace one I was thinking of.
Yeah that's the dimensions listed on the palace site for ages so it does seem like it's a genuine "Pro spec" as in this is the weird ass dimensions chewy skates. Maybe he learned on a shaped deck or something . Like I said earlier 917 and Heroin both have ones that are similar, and some people swear by it. Personally I can't go past 14.5 and even then it has to be short and flat.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 14, 2022, 10:06:49 AM

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I emailed Theories and this is what they said:

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We have had to use a variety of factory sources for all of our brands throughout the pandemic. Out of nowehere in April of 2020 we found out we couldn't get new BBS stock for 11 months. So it threw us into a loop trying to maintain stock for all of our brands. Currently the new Hopps and Theories seasons are BBS and they will continue to be on BBS wood through Spring and Summer of 2022. But the wood situation has been very volatile and tricky after BBS became unavailable completely for most of 2020 and into 2021. So we had to develop more diversity to protect the brands and make sure we would have a wood source no matter what happend. So there's a chance we may have to supplement our wood with another source one season in the future for one or the other brand. But our goal is to maintain BBS as the wood source for Hopps and Theories in perpetuity.
Thanks for checking in and I hope that info helps.
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So it sounds like it’s a lottery at the moment but stabilizing back to BBS
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Thanks for that.

It definitely rings true that things went from "happy days" to "WTF" pretty quickly for a lot of places.

Also interesting people like to name BBS but don't want to name other woodshops, almost like the perceived notion of one is good and the other(s) not so good, depending on where their wood came from.
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BBS is to wood what bones is to bearings. It's the one everyone knows, and they have a well earned reputation for quality. I think maybe he wasn't naming the others more because they've used a few and he didn't want to list them all though. I know last time I went and flipped the racks at radio there were theories brands on bbs, clutch, dwindle, and some other mystery wood that felt like PGI.

I admire the transparency though, and it's always nice to have more confirmation that it was in fact the issues we've been speculating about. I really don't think anyone is switching woodshops for any reason other than supply at the moment - it's slowly moving back towards "normal" but it's still very much get em wherever you can for the time being.
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Definitely!

I have had more than one message asking for brands to be removed from certain woodshop lists as it was hurting their business and I am very happy to help them and remove the brand and info. It just goes to show that people do look at this list and often make decisions based on what woodshop a brand uses too, without even having tried the board of that woodshop too, in some cases.

Personal opinion is everything in places like this though.

I like one brand more than others.

Someone else might like a different brand and that is just how it goes.

That's interesting. If a brand refuses to be transparent about what woodshop they're using (or I can't find them on the master list), I refuse to buy from them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 14, 2022, 11:50:55 AM

Anyone know what woodshop Arbor uses for their street decks?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on January 14, 2022, 12:59:00 PM

I think mine was a whittled down redwood…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 14, 2022, 01:05:46 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on January 14, 2022, 12:59:00 PM

I think mine was a whittled down redwood…

Lol so garbage? Figured

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 14, 2022, 02:02:36 PM

I had thought with the "resurrection" under new ownership and products, things were now out of China, vs being out of California where they came from, but they could just as easily be made in USA, Mexico or anywhere else for that matter.

These boards look pretty good, but until I stand on one, skate it for a month or so and see how it goes, I couldn't tell you the first thing about them.

https://www.arborcollective.com/pages/our-story

https://www.arborcollective.com/collections/skateboards

https://www.arborcollective.com/collections/skateboards/products/greyson-8-5-darksider-deck

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0085/5762/5410/products/Greyson_8.5_Darksider_Pro_Deck_Three_Quarter_2021_720x.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 16, 2022, 05:46:13 PM

Adding this one here - more so for another shop board addition

Prolific - BBS

Quote from: MonsPubis on January 16, 2022, 04:19:57 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/2NxHbxC/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2NxHbxC)

@FUBAR hell yeah for the Prolific board

8.25 shop deck (BBS wood)
Ventures
53mm Spitfires
Swiss
Jessup
Shortys 7/8 hardware

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 16, 2022, 06:07:28 PM

Sometimes other threads are an awesome read as well as very relevant to board information.

BBS Molds thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120188.0

Copied these I put up in the BBS thread, as they are also relative to the Woodshop thread as well.

Different concaves, as well as different shapes, molds and lengths of wheelbases.

(https://i.ibb.co/zN7jdwm/BBS-AH-Board-sizes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fQnBJ7X)

(https://i.ibb.co/99Pk2JL/BBS-vs.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XZHrp9g)

The question of Dwindle decks came up, went looking and found this, so thought it should be posted here too:

Check out the Dwindle website for lots more info:

https://dwindle.com/

In particular the catalogs have all the relevant info, but I would do this on a computer, not a phone or small screen.

https://dwindle.com/catalogs

I also noticed in the most recent one they have "Full nose and tail" shown now, which might be a new thing, or might not.

Screen shot here, beside a normal board, also showing mellow concave option:

(https://i.ibb.co/sjFVn1g/Dwindle-Full-shape.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cJNr08y)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 16, 2022, 06:48:21 PM

Can someone suggest me some shapes that are:
8.5-8.75" (ideally 8.5) wide
32.3"+ long (looking for extra long decks)
14.1-14.375" wheelbase
Preferably BBS, Dwindle, South Central, or Pennswood

I think this Uma might be the ticket: https://www.uma-landsleds.com/products/uma-premature-permaculture-maite-deck-8-5

They say it's only 31.91" long, but Skate Warehouse says it's 32.61". It certainly looks long as fuck with tons of fingers of flat.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 17, 2022, 02:54:19 PM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on January 16, 2022, 06:48:21 PM

Can someone suggest me some shapes that are:
8.5-8.75" (ideally 8.5) wide
32.3"+ long (looking for extra long decks)
14.1-14.375" wheelbase
Preferably BBS, Dwindle, South Central, or Pennswood

I think this Uma might be the ticket: https://www.uma-landsleds.com/products/uma-premature-permaculture-maite-deck-8-5

They say it's only 31.91" long, but Skate Warehouse says it's 32.61". It certainly looks long as fuck with tons of fingers of flat.

I feel like those dimensions are about right for the good (semi squared off) boards that Alien Workshop and Habitat are putting out, being out of BBS and easy to get hold of.

Most of the bigger sizes are all the same length and wheelbase, at least in 8.5 and 8.75 I have seen, all 32.25 long with 14.25 wb.

A few passed through my hands on to someone else who was super keen on them, all looking super solid, long kicks, etc.

Around here they are often on sale too, which helps, but most shops that stock them have some discount from time to time as well.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 18, 2022, 07:02:08 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on January 14, 2022, 11:50:55 AM

Anyone know what woodshop Arbor uses for their street decks?

To go back to this question. On their website they have an hour long documentary that may have some insight. I'm not watching it. Sometimes when they do factory shots, you can see other boards lying around and get a feel for it who it might be. The arbor site says the recycle and reclaim all wood waste, so I'd image you have be in the US or at least North America close enough to Arbor HQ.

this website says they use Sector 9, but this could be out of date judging by the website.
https://www.nordboards.com/arbor3.html

There's always the option to DM or email them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 06:23:46 AM

This post in the random question thread is so good, I am going to add it here:

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on January 17, 2022, 05:47:49 AM

What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on January 18, 2022, 04:19:14 AM

Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/

Quote from: Xen on January 18, 2022, 09:41:43 AM

https://www.slamcity.com/

Great pics to help with shape choice as well.

SPoT
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/cz.aspx?ID=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Violator on January 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM

That Japanese shop's product photos help out a lot! I wonder if there's a shop out there that measures the width over the front and back truck for shaped decks? Any help out there would be greatly appreciated 8)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on January 19, 2022, 10:06:43 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 28, 2021, 09:22:08 PM

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The only woodshop in Germany i know is egal skateboards.
https://egal-skateboards.de/
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Sweet!

I hadn't seen or heard of them at all, that I know of.

Wood looks pretty good too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5OWK8bo3BT/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwR3uYalhUc/

Ballroom skateboards from Frankfurt are made by esb woodshop
https://www.instagram.com/ballroom_skateboards/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on January 19, 2022, 11:01:45 AM

in the opening post you said Chapman is not making decks, but I am fairly certain that is where my local shop gets his decks done, and also Comacan Sakteboards in canada. i can confirm

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 02:40:28 PM

Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM

That Japanese shop's product photos help out a lot! I wonder if there's a shop out there that measures the width over the front and back truck for shaped decks? Any help out there would be greatly appreciated 8)

The Conflict Skates shop site usually has a good range of boards, as well as that exact measurement info on all shaped boards.

They really do go above and beyond with that sort of thing, which is great. Length, width, wheelbase, nose and tail, width over trucks, concave, etc.

I have even looked up specific boards they no longer have in stock and might not show on the web store, with the product name and shop name:

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/cliche--101-jesus-skateboard-deck-98-x-319-gabriel-rodriguez--marc-mckee-19380-p.asp

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 02:53:25 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on January 19, 2022, 11:01:45 AM

in the opening post you said Chapman is not making decks, but I am fairly certain that is where my local shop gets his decks done, and also Comacan Sakteboards in canada. i can confirm

I guess the easiest way to help with that question is to take a couple of quotes from others, but pretty much the manufacturing woodshop side of things closed, sold the presses, then restarted a few years later just printing graphics on boards from other woodshops.

Quote from: Macho Taildrop on March 19, 2021, 10:41:39 AM

@Mbrimson88 unless anyone has intel specifically to the contrary, I think Chapman should be removed from the list or at least the brands should be asterisk'd. Their woodshop closed a couple years ago and AFAIK they have just been screening graphics on Clutch-pressed boards. I have handled a few recent "Chapman" blanks that were Clutch for sure.

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on December 12, 2021, 02:56:08 AM

Are they actually pressing their decks though or just distributing them? If it's the latter there's a good chance they're coming from China. It's a pretty common business model over here to import a mass of blanks, store them, and then print and apply heat transfers on demand. Dunno how common or feasible it is in Europe though. Chapman does it with clutch blanks but I would assume it's a lot cheaper and easier to import from China for euros.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Violator on January 19, 2022, 03:55:22 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 02:40:28 PM

Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM
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That Japanese shop's product photos help out a lot! I wonder if there's a shop out there that measures the width over the front and back truck for shaped decks? Any help out there would be greatly appreciated 8)
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The Conflict Skates shop site usually has a good range of boards, as well as that exact measurement info on all shaped boards.

They really do go above and beyond with that sort of thing, which is great. Length, width, wheelbase, nose and tail, width over trucks, concave, etc.

I have even looked up specific boards they no longer have in stock and might not show on the web store, with the product name and shop name:

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/cliche--101-jesus-skateboard-deck-98-x-319-gabriel-rodriguez--marc-mckee-19380-p.asp

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/

this rules, Thanks so much!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on January 19, 2022, 04:59:10 PM

Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 03:55:22 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 02:40:28 PM
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Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM
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That Japanese shop's product photos help out a lot! I wonder if there's a shop out there that measures the width over the front and back truck for shaped decks? Any help out there would be greatly appreciated 8)
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The Conflict Skates shop site usually has a good range of boards, as well as that exact measurement info on all shaped boards.

They really do go above and beyond with that sort of thing, which is great. Length, width, wheelbase, nose and tail, width over trucks, concave, etc.

I have even looked up specific boards they no longer have in stock and might not show on the web store, with the product name and shop name:

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/cliche--101-jesus-skateboard-deck-98-x-319-gabriel-rodriguez--marc-mckee-19380-p.asp

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/
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this rules, Thanks so much!!!

Not sure how much I trust a store that used Comic Sans MS as their font

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2022, 09:15:43 PM

I know some people had been asking about this for a while, but I thought I should do something to help (and it is a rainy day here today, so I have time).

How to...

Measure a skateboard deck (correctly)

So there have often been questions and very different measurements when it comes to skateboard deck dimensions, along with various forms or items to measure them, but I hope to help with the most simple and easy way to correctly measure your board, as per industry standards.

I have a flat metal square ruler, a standard tape measure, a soft tape measure and a tailors tape, for reference here, but the standard tape measure with the hook end is the best for an accurate measurement of length and width.

They all give the same measurements when used correctly on this Antihero eagle deck that is said to be 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wheelbase, 6.8 nose and 6.6 tail. The one difference being these DLX 8.25 decks are often a touch wider, coming in around 8.3 or so.

The board length is often the most confused measurement, but decks should be measured from tip to tip straight across, not from the top ply layer (which will give a shorter length) and not with the concave (which will give a longer length) and most definitely not with graphic side up as that will give a super long measurement.

Note: One woodshop in particular always measured the length with the concave, so if you have a PS Stix deck it will often be shorter than listed, when compared to many other brands or other woodshop dimensions.

Width is again straight across from tip to tip, often the middle ply will sit out further than the top ply layer, but as boards can often taper, measure across in a few places, such as where the trucks are and the middle of the board too.

Wheelbase is measured from the middle of the deck bolt holes closest to each other, at each end of the board, usually anywhere from 14 to 15" but more commonly 14.25 to 14.5" apart.

Nose and tail are from the tip, same as the length in a straight line to the middle of the closest deck bolt holes, most commonly popsicle shaped decks having the nose around a quarter inch longer, but often twin boards will have the same length kicks, all up between 6.5" to 7" but quite a few are longer and many are shorter too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY7zD_6pAhr/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 09:19:18 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on January 19, 2022, 04:59:10 PM

Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 03:55:22 PM
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Quote from: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 02:40:28 PM
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Quote from: Violator on January 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM
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That Japanese shop's product photos help out a lot! I wonder if there's a shop out there that measures the width over the front and back truck for shaped decks? Any help out there would be greatly appreciated 8)
[close]

The Conflict Skates shop site usually has a good range of boards, as well as that exact measurement info on all shaped boards.

They really do go above and beyond with that sort of thing, which is great. Length, width, wheelbase, nose and tail, width over trucks, concave, etc.

I have even looked up specific boards they no longer have in stock and might not show on the web store, with the product name and shop name:

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/cliche--101-jesus-skateboard-deck-98-x-319-gabriel-rodriguez--marc-mckee-19380-p.asp

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/
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this rules, Thanks so much!!!
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Not sure how much I trust a store that used Comic Sans MS as their font

Ha yeah, sometimes there are simple things that just make you wonder, but I feel like every time I have checked something, especially boards I have had, they are maybe the most accurate in measurements I have seen online.

It might be an English thing.

Jolly good, old chap!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 20, 2022, 07:01:53 PM

EUROPEAN WOODSHOP Thread has given me some more info

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120227.0

Quote from: roba on January 19, 2022, 04:55:39 AM

EU pals what up!

i’ve been working at a skateshop for the past couple months and we’ve been looking into making our shop boards for some time now. we’re hoping to get them in for spring/summer. i’ve been doing some research and here are the woodshops i found so far:

* Info below taken out of the post from Roba to make it easier to read *

https://www.mdcn-dist.net/ - based in hamburg, i know about one polish company that made boards there but i didn’t get to try them out

https://quarterdist.com/ - supposedly magenta made boards there for a while during covid? i skated a few magenta boards during that time period but i’m 99% sure all of them were bbs

https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/ - those are jart boards, they are pretty good but the minimum order is 50 decks which is a little steep

http://www.sk8boardfactory.com/ - this one is called crs, i know nothing about them, don’t know where they are located, what companies use their decks etc

http://cirus.hu/main - hungarian skateboard manufacturer, ben degros skated one of their decks and liked it but it wasn’t their regular maple board so i’m not too sure about them

https://instagram.com/berlinboardsbrewery?utm_medium=copy_link - this is a new manufacturer from berlin, i don’t know nothing about them as well

there are also two skateboard manufacturers in poland (locals, nibiru) but i’ve skated boards from both and they were kinda shitty. there’s also gnosis in the uk but because of brexit they might be too expensive for us.

is there anything else? do any of you have any experience with boards from the woodshops i listed here? please let me know guys :)

Then other posts with more info as well:

Quote from: S. on January 19, 2022, 09:59:00 AM

The first two are not woodshops. They import their decks from China and Print them in their Warehouse.
Mdcn sucks. Quater has been alright usually: very nice and stiff in the beginning, but they get soft in about three weeks or so. They don‘t break easily.

Inclu skateboards are a pretty special woodshop. They produce them at a workplace for disabled people, so you would be supporting a good cause. The wood is Ok. A little bit on the heavy side. They have very limited runs usually, so you have to get lucky to get some.
https://www.instagram.com/inclu_skateboards/

Quote from: S. on January 20, 2022, 03:37:17 AM

Quarter distribution do smaller runs. They do most of the boards of the small local brands in my area in Germany.

This guy does smaller runs as well. He prints on hlc and BBS wood (if he can get it). Site is in German but just contact the dude via email.
https://www.blag-skateshop.de/

These guys also do smaller runs. Made in Germany. Quality is alright. Boards are a bit heavy.

https://www.instagram.com/esb_woodshop/?hl=de

Quote from: wuust on January 19, 2022, 10:25:38 AM

artprint europe.
ask for mike moreau

Found it:

https://www.artprinteurope.com
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/artprinteurope/
France

https://www.artprinteurope.com/skateboard/printing-options/

https://www.artprinteurope.com/skateboard/manufacturing-process/

Manufacturing process
ArtPrint has selected with the greatest of care the best skateboard factory to print your custom skateboards. Our headline is “we don’t want to offer skateboard that we don’t want to skate ourselves”. We are particularly demanding about the construction quality and ask a lot on oneself so ArtPrint has scrupulously tested the main skateboard factories before choosing the one we’re working with since more than 7 years now. We have a very large choice of 25 different board references (same source and same construction) available in 3 different concaves (medium / medium-high / high). Our catalogue contains skateboard from 7’25 to 9’ and also a couple of old school shapes & cruisers to satisfy all your different requests. The construction of our skateboards is 100% north Canadian maple that comes from forest sustainably managed then pressed with epoxy glue for a better rigidity, sturdiness and top durability.

Each skateboard is made of 7 plies whose 3 of them are colored (top, 3rd, 6th) plus top engraving including size and serial number. All our custom skateboards are guaranteed against fault and delamination.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbMPy7DlwTQ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on January 21, 2022, 02:21:04 AM

Artprint is just printing on decks (most likly chinese wood) but the they are quite ok. I had one deck from my hommies Vitosha Skateboards that use altprint. It was light, a bit flexy, but lastet quite some time and the shape was super good for my taste.
I know 3 brands using altprint.
1. Drawing boards (uk) - they have super good graphics https://www.instagram.com/drawingboards/
2. Vitosha Skateboards (bulgaria) - https://www.instagram.com/vitosha.skateboards/
3. Skylord (bulgaria)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 21, 2022, 03:37:18 AM

Drawing Boards is an interesting one.

The Drawing Boards decks that were here in AU a while back were PS Stix, then something more like PGI or similar woodshop, very flat and very round in the kicks. I wonder if that was the same for the UK version of their stuff, now printed through Artprint as you said, but I don't think Drawing Boards is still around in AU the way they used to be.

A few others I found recently to add / check:

Good Dudes - Dwindle

Cash Only - BBS / Generator

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: burm on January 21, 2022, 04:07:59 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2022, 09:15:43 PM

I know some people had been asking about this for a while, but I thought I should do something to help (and it is a rainy day here today, so I have time).

How to...

Measure a skateboard deck (correctly)

So there have often been questions and very different measurements when it comes to skateboard deck dimensions, along with various forms or items to measure them, but I hope to help with the most simple and easy way to correctly measure your board, as per industry standards.

I have a flat metal square ruler, a standard tape measure, a soft tape measure and a tailors tape, for reference here, but the standard tape measure with the hook end is the best for an accurate measurement of length and width.

They all give the same measurements when used correctly on this Antihero eagle deck that is said to be 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wheelbase, 6.8 nose and 6.6 tail. The one difference being these DLX 8.25 decks are often a touch wider, coming in around 8.3 or so.

The board length is often the most confused measurement, but decks should be measured from tip to tip straight across, not from the top ply layer (which will give a shorter length) and not with the concave (which will give a longer length) and most definitely not with graphic side up as that will give a super long measurement.

Note: One woodshop in particular always measured the length with the concave, so if you have a PS Stix deck it will often be shorter than listed, when compared to many other brands or other woodshop dimensions.

Width is again straight across from tip to tip, often the middle ply will sit out further than the top ply layer, but as boards can often taper, measure across in a few places, such as where the trucks are and the middle of the board too.

Wheelbase is measured from the middle of the deck bolt holes closest to each other, at each end of the board, usually anywhere from 14 to 15" but more commonly 14.25 to 14.5" apart.

Nose and tail are from the tip, same as the length in a straight line to the middle of the closest deck bolt holes, most commonly popsicle shaped decks having the nose around a quarter inch longer, but often twin boards will have the same length kicks, all up between 6.5" to 7" but quite a few are longer and many are shorter too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY7zD_6pAhr/

Thank you for putting in time for the community, but I want to sanity check a couple of things here.

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The board length is often the most confused measurement, but decks should be measured from tip to tip straight across, not from the top ply layer (which will give a shorter length) and not with the concave (which will give a longer length) and most definitely not with graphic side up as that will give a super long measurement.

I cannot picture what you mean by top ply layer and shortest length.
If you measure with the concave, you will get exactly the same measurement front the top side and the graphic (bottom) side, because that is the length of the actual material before bending and bending doesn't add length. If you measure straight across, your measure will be dependent on the curvature, so it would theoretically get longer as your board flattens out.

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Width is again straight across from tip to tip, often the middle ply will sit out further than the top ply layer, but as boards can often taper, measure across in a few places, such as where the trucks are and the middle of the board too.

Same thing with width, if you don't measure with the concave your measure depends on the curvature. So for instance on DLX boards I-IV would each have a different width measurement.

So these things being said, I feel measuring the actual material is the only accurate measurement you can make, and that means measuring with the concave. I can accept everyone wanting to use the measurements you described, but I would not call that the "right way".

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 21, 2022, 04:44:34 AM

Quote from: burm on January 21, 2022, 04:07:59 AM

Thank you for putting in time for the community, but I want to sanity check a couple of things here.

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The board length is often the most confused measurement, but decks should be measured from tip to tip straight across, not from the top ply layer (which will give a shorter length) and not with the concave (which will give a longer length) and most definitely not with graphic side up as that will give a super long measurement.
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I cannot picture what you mean by top ply layer and shortest length.
If you measure with the concave, you will get exactly the same measurement front the top side and the graphic (bottom) side, because that is the length of the actual material before bending and bending doesn't add length. If you measure straight across, your measure will be dependent on the curvature, so it would theoretically get longer as your board flattens out.

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Width is again straight across from tip to tip, often the middle ply will sit out further than the top ply layer, but as boards can often taper, measure across in a few places, such as where the trucks are and the middle of the board too.
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Same thing with width, if you don't measure with the concave your measure depends on the curvature. So for instance on DLX boards I-IV would each have a different width measurement.

So these things being said, I feel measuring the actual material is the only accurate measurement you can make, and that means measuring with the concave. I can accept everyone wanting to use the measurements you described, but I would not call that the "right way".

I get what you are saying, so here goes for my attempt to untangle what I have said and explain it a bit better.

Just checking your point about the concave first, as the pressed blank goes through the cutting process, the designated shape is cut by the machine in a vertical motion, so this board is cut to 32" long regardless of whether or not it is 15 degrees or 23 degrees in kicks, same with the width, which is cut to 8.25 whether it is steep concave or mellow concave.

Hopefully this pic I just made of a board will help, which is based on the rounding of the ply (which is what I mean by the top ply layer giving a shorter length or width) as the top and bottom ply layers will have more taken off them than the middle layers.

I worded it as I did because of one person in particular who always uses a soft tape and in the close up pics has it from the top coloured ply point, as well as always saying boards are shorter than they say on the deck dimensions, which always makes me want to try to help him understand how he is doing it is giving him incorrect measurements.

Others like Ben deGros use the hook end of a hard tape and it measures how it should.

At the end of the day, people can measure boards how ever they like, but when I see some people have been listing boards in length up to 33+ for the DLX 8.25 x 32 because they have measured on the graphic side with the concave, it is a bit funny.

Measuring tip to tip straight across is 32" and measuring with the concave on the grip side of the deck is 32.25" using the top layer or 32.5" using the whole tip to tip method.

I know one guy said the best way to actually measure anything is lay it on its back up against something, with the other end point being the total length, same with width, which ends up being the same as the measured way in the pic below.

(https://i.ibb.co/6JmRv8v/Measuring-your-deck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PzNZTMT)

Edit: Adding this one too

(https://i.ibb.co/QPLxDWm/BBS-Board-Measurements.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x1WrFn5)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 21, 2022, 05:23:10 AM

Here is the close up pics with the different ways to measure:

The hard yellow tape straight across is 32" tip to tip.

The soft white tape with the concave is actually more like 32.5" from what I can see, but I seem to recall it was more like 32.25 on the green ply top layer of the deck, which was how the other guy was measuring his boards.

I know the quality of the pics is not too good, as they were just low res pics from my instagram post, but I hope they still show up well enough.

(https://i.ibb.co/r5ghp35/BBS-AH-Board-Measurements.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6D2St8D)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: burm on January 21, 2022, 06:17:51 AM

Ok yeah so you’re right on all accounts. I wasn’t considering that the board is pressed first and then cut ”2 dimensionally”, obviously then the ”right way” to measure will be the same way that they used when cutting.

This would then mean, in theory at least, that a steeper board with the same measurements (tip-to-tip) would have more material i.e. weigh more.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 21, 2022, 06:25:04 AM

Similar decks to fa/ hockey 8 inch / 14 wheelbase ?

I ride venture highs v hollows and most people say they are best with short wheelbase; so I would like to try this.

Had an fa deck and it felt good, so I would like to try other 14 inch wheelbase boards. No idea if longer wheelbase would feel worse for me honestly.

Quasi, aws, Habitat, wknd, gx have a similar shape I was reading, but some are not as steep I heard.

What do you guys find best to ride with high ventures ?

Do you really feel a big difference from shorter wheelbase or steeper kicks to non steeper kicks?
Do you stick with always the same or is it no problem for you switch it up all the time?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 21, 2022, 02:04:55 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on January 21, 2022, 06:25:04 AM

Similar decks to fa/ hockey 8 inch / 14 wheelbase ?

I ride venture highs v hollows and most people say they are best with short wheelbase; so I would like to try this.

Had an fa deck and it felt good, so I would like to try other 14 inch wheelbase boards. No idea if longer wheelbase would feel worse for me honestly.

Quasi, aws, Habitat, wknd, gx have a similar shape I was reading, but some are not as steep I heard.

What do you guys find best to ride with high ventures ?

Do you really feel a big difference from shorter wheelbase or steeper kicks to non steeper kicks?
Do you stick with always the same or is it no problem for you switch it up all the time?

I know a couple of Venture dudes who still skate pretty much the same as what I skate on Indy, but overall having the same length board with a shorter wheelbase is said to pair better with Ventures.

He rides quite a few, but Dwindle boards work for him, as well as some of the BBS boards as mentioned, Alien Workshop / Habitat still being fairly squared off and normal concave, only slightly less than FA / Hockey.

Some of the DLX / Real Full SE shapes still have big squared off kicks with much the same length and a shorter wheelbase too, so that might be another one to check for.

Others I have not seen but heard are good with 14" wb include some Pennswood boards (but not all) so maybe check them out. Lots of people in USA really like that wood.

This thread might help too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115825.240

The 14" wheelbase thread has a bit of everything but that last page has a few more options for 8" decks too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 21, 2022, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: burm on January 21, 2022, 06:17:51 AM

This would then mean, in theory at least, that a steeper board with the same measurements (tip-to-tip) would have more material i.e. weigh more.

Yes I would think that is correct / would be the case.

The funny thing is if I flatten out some steeper boards, they have ever so slightly longer kicks, which is a good thing for me.

The overall cutting is uniform but the sanding is where the board can be taken down a bit less or a bit more depending on how keen the person doing it is, or how long they do each board, when they are there on those belt sanders going at it.

I guess with everything, we still have human interaction as the product is not completely automated, so there are always going to be some inconsistencies, but they sure do have it down to a fine art in the whole board making process for most places nowdays.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 21, 2022, 04:18:39 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 21, 2022, 02:04:55 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on January 21, 2022, 06:25:04 AM
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Similar decks to fa/ hockey 8 inch / 14 wheelbase ?

I ride venture highs v hollows and most people say they are best with short wheelbase; so I would like to try this.

Had an fa deck and it felt good, so I would like to try other 14 inch wheelbase boards. No idea if longer wheelbase would feel worse for me honestly.

Quasi, aws, Habitat, wknd, gx have a similar shape I was reading, but some are not as steep I heard.

What do you guys find best to ride with high ventures ?

Do you really feel a big difference from shorter wheelbase or steeper kicks to non steeper kicks?
Do you stick with always the same or is it no problem for you switch it up all the time?
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I know a couple of Venture dudes who still skate pretty much the same as what I skate on Indy, but overall having the same length board with a shorter wheelbase is said to pair better with Ventures.

He rides quite a few, but Dwindle boards work for him, as well as some of the BBS boards as mentioned, Alien Workshop / Habitat still being fairly squared off and normal concave, only slightly less than FA / Hockey.

Some of the DLX / Real Full SE shapes still have big squared off kicks with much the same length and a shorter wheelbase too, so that might be another one to check for.

Others I have not seen but heard are good with 14" wb include some Pennswood boards (but not all) so maybe check them out. Lots of people in USA really like that wood.

This thread might help too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115825.240

The 14" wheelbase thread has a bit of everything but that last page has a few more options for 8" decks too.

Thanks. Will read the thread and probably try an AWS deck next and after that I’ll try one with longer wheelbase and see if I feel a difference. I still have a gx deck here but this one is an 8 with a 14.25 wb.

Really curious if I’ll feel a difference

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GBLange on January 22, 2022, 12:27:56 AM

soo, if we were to follow how Prof.Schmitt do the DIY shapes using the Skate Create paper template,it is like actually measuring with the concave..right? since he draws the shape on the paper template and then cuts it.and trace it on the uncut blanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 22, 2022, 03:11:35 AM

Quote from: GBLange on January 22, 2022, 12:27:56 AM

soo, if we were to follow how Prof.Schmitt do the DIY shapes using the Skate Create paper template,it is like actually measuring with the concave..right? since he draws the shape on the paper template and then cuts it.and trace it on the uncut blanks.

Ha yeah, depending on who you ask.

PS Stix boards are shorter than pretty much everything else of the same listed dimensions because he does measure with the concave, but as long as you know that, they are easy enough to convert to "measurements of everything else", for example, a few PS Stix boards that have 8.375 x 32.25 on them were actually more like 8.25 x 31.85 but they had a fair bit of taper to so might have been about 8.3 at the shoulder going down to 8.1 before the back bolts.

Comparing the DLX 8.25 x 32 to the PS Stix 8.375 x 32.25 board, the DLX board was both longer and wider, but mainly due to the taper in the PS Stix.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Carter on January 22, 2022, 04:39:18 PM

look at these specs

https://freedometoskate.com/collections/store/products/mini-8-12 (https://freedometoskate.com/collections/store/products/mini-8-12)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2022, 07:30:35 PM

What companies have similar dims and concaves to Crail? Are Baker kicks at all similar?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: jrb32 on January 22, 2022, 07:49:16 PM

Just got a couple boards from Primitive’s latest drop. They all say “made in china” on them. Hope they get their woodshop situation figured out soon. Its been frustrating getting “made in mexico” “made in USA” and “made in china” boards the last few drops. Something consistent would be nice. 😕

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: braksabbath on January 23, 2022, 02:01:31 AM

Is 8.38 a common size across woodshops or is that a sure sign the shop decks are Deluxe/BBS?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 02:26:41 AM

Quote from: braksabbath on January 23, 2022, 02:01:31 AM

Is 8.38 a common size across woodshops or is that a sure sign the shop decks are Deluxe/BBS?

I think I have seen other non BBS brands listed as 8.38 but I think that size is more often listed as 8.375 from other woodshops and brands.

Overall 8.38 is supposed to be the same as 8.375 with the decimal place with a fraction of an inch being a thing of wonder really, but there are definitely some different boards out there.

When I do an 8.38 search in most of the bigger skate shops, some others do come up, eg Foundation, Evisen, Techne, Thank you, Poolroom, Flip and more.

For BBS there are at least three different shapes / sizes for the 8.38 decks as well, that I know of.

8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb from DLX, Baker, Birdhouse, Element, DGK

8.38 x 32 with 14.38 wb from Passport, Polar, Heroin (might be the same but I don't recall if there was a different one)

8.38 x 31.79 with 14.2 wb from FA / Hockey

* Some places might have slightly different measurements for some of the boards, but I ride the DLX 8.38, as well as having Baker, Birdhouse, Element, DGK in that size, as well as a few others in the shorter version from Passport and other brands.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: braksabbath on January 23, 2022, 03:11:12 AM

Nice! It must be. Meant to add their whole list-

8.0 x 31.8, 14.25
8.1 x 32, wb14.25
8.25 x 32, wb14.38
8.38 x 32, wb14.38
8.5 x 32, wb14.38
8.6 x 32.38, wb14.6
8.75 x 32.75, wb14.75
9.0 x 33.25, wb 14.75
Shape (8.9 x 31.75, wb14.25) squared tail/pointed flat nose normal length
Shape (8.7 x 31.5, wb14.25) squared tail/rounded nose/ shorter length
Shape (8.6 x 32.38, wb14.25) square tail/blunted nose/normal length

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 03:17:02 AM

Addition to the last post about 8.38 decks.

There are another three to five or more shapes from various companies on BBS so that takes it to at least six, maybe up to eight or more different 8.38 shapes and sizes.

Polar is increasingly listed as 8.375 on most sites, but also comes up as 8.38 on others - same boards.

Hopps has one that is listed as 8.38 x 32.125 with 14.25 wb, if anyone can check to confirm.

Frog (same as the other shorter DLX one I forgot about) has one that is 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

April has a shorter 8.38 but I am not sure of the actual dimensions - some places had different listings.

As far as other exclusives, these ones came to mind when doing some more searching, both of which I have / had.

Black Label has a longer one - 8.38 x 32.5 with 14.38 wb (might be the same as others though)

Element has a shorter one - 8.38 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb

From that list overall, I would say most of the major woodshops have an 8.38 in the mix, including the majority on BBS, but also some on Clutch, Dwindle, unknown (China) and a couple of others yet to confirm.

The list of 8.375 is similar, but more from Dwindle / China (unknown) but there are also a fair few from others including BBS too.

Just one of the joys of looking for specific sizes, shapes and manufacturers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on January 23, 2022, 06:42:36 AM

I know this has been asked a million times before, but generally, are price point deluxe boards the same as the regular ones, just omitting the colores plies?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 06:44:56 AM

The ones I’ve skated feel identical.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 06:45:26 AM

What companies have similar dims and concaves to Crail? Are Baker kicks at all similar?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Carter on January 23, 2022, 07:18:41 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 03:17:02 AM

Addition to the last post about 8.38 decks.

There are another three to five or more shapes from various companies on BBS so that takes it to at least six, maybe up to eight or more different 8.38 shapes and sizes.

Polar is increasingly listed as 8.375 on most sites, but also comes up as 8.38 on others - same boards.

Hopps has one that is listed as 8.38 x 32.125 with 14.25 wb, if anyone can check to confirm.

Frog (same as the other shorter DLX one I forgot about) has one that is 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

April has a shorter 8.38 but I am not sure of the actual dimensions - some places had different listings.

As far as other exclusives, these ones came to mind when doing some more searching, both of which I have / had.

Black Label has a longer one - 8.38 x 32.5 with 14.38 wb (might be the same as others though)

Element has a shorter one - 8.38 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb

From that list overall, I would say most of the major woodshops have an 8.38 in the mix, including the majority on BBS, but also some on Clutch, Dwindle, unknown (China) and a couple of others yet to confirm.

The list of 8.375 is similar, but more from Dwindle / China (unknown) but there are also a fair few from others including BBS too.

Just one of the joys of looking for specific sizes, shapes and manufacturers.

April I saw makes an 8.38 with a 31.12 length 14.3 wb I believe as well if you are looking for short

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: manysnakes on January 23, 2022, 08:52:06 AM

I'm sure this is in here a billion times, but how can I tell which woodshop this deck came from?(https://i.ibb.co/Rgx3b7c/Screen-Shot-2022-01-23-at-8-51-18-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/Rgx3b7c)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lou Strux on January 23, 2022, 12:01:39 PM

Quote from: manysnakes on January 23, 2022, 08:52:06 AM

I'm sure this is in here a billion times, but how can I tell which woodshop this deck came from?(https://i.ibb.co/Rgx3b7c/Screen-Shot-2022-01-23-at-8-51-18-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/Rgx3b7c)

Clutch.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 02:35:50 PM

Is Clutch always the dot between trucks? If so then Carpet now seems to be Clutch or at least the Brandon Turner deck I have is

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2022, 02:47:41 PM

To add to the shop boards list, (which will still happen), I saw an email from Old Skull for their new boards, on Generator (BBS) which come in all sizes which is really good for people who want bigger boards, all at US$49.95 so a decent price too.

Sizes 8.0 8.25 8.5 8.75 and 9.0

https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/old-skull-jimbo-skull-two-deck-assorted-stains/

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-j2hxjs/images/stencil/1024x1024/products/17890/79594/IMG-4545__17777.1642961830.jpg)

If you are not stoked on the graphic, you can always take it off, as I did with a couple of boards not too long ago.

Surprising how easy it actually was.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYtP9OUFmh5/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5C3Seh3Xw/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 02:50:27 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on January 23, 2022, 06:42:36 AM

I know this has been asked a million times before, but generally, are price point deluxe boards the same as the regular ones, just omitting the colores plies?

If you don't break boards, they will feel the same and skate the same.

The plain ones are definitely softer and flex out faster, with a number of people I know breaking them fairly quickly, but all the ones I have had were just a little more flexy and still held up fine.

They are a cheaper board in every way, but they are still the same shapes, concaves and feel as the pro boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 02:52:03 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 02:35:50 PM

Is Clutch always the dot between trucks? If so then Carpet now seems to be Clutch or at least the Brandon Turner deck I have is

The single "big dot" imprint in the wood is BBS.

The "number and letter stamp" is Clutch, but they also often use a round size sticker on the board in about the same place, often over the number and letter stamp.

Hope that helps.

Carpet is 100% BBS.

They were very quick to confirm this with a few different people who have contacted them about which woodshop they are using, as people have posted before.

It never hurts to ask though.

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2022, 03:08:50 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on January 23, 2022, 06:42:36 AM

I know this has been asked a million times before, but generally, are price point deluxe boards the same as the regular ones, just omitting the colores plies?

To add to that, these two posts cover it fairly well.

If you don't have instagram access or cannot view them, I can post or send you pics and text to go with them as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQNdT4pFwum/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTUEBSPFp1c/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2022, 03:57:09 PM

Quote from: sans umbilical on January 22, 2022, 07:21:15 PM

New setup today.

Shop deck (South Central Wood) - 7.5
Venture 5.0
Spitfire Conical Full 54mm/97a
Bones Swiss Ceramic

Another one for the skate shop board list.

Faith Skate - South Central.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on January 23, 2022, 04:43:40 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2022, 03:08:50 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on January 23, 2022, 06:42:36 AM
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I know this has been asked a million times before, but generally, are price point deluxe boards the same as the regular ones, just omitting the colores plies?
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To add to that, these two posts cover it fairly well.

If you don't have instagram access or cannot view them, I can post or send you pics and text to go with them as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQNdT4pFwum/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTUEBSPFp1c/

This is AWESOME information. Thanks so much. I’ve had a renewal edition Real deck before but that was long before I really cared about woodshops. I’ll save these posts for future reference.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MusclesMarinara on January 23, 2022, 05:30:03 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2022, 02:47:41 PM

To add to the shop boards list, (which will still happen), I saw an email from Old Skull for their new boards, on Generator (BBS) which come in all sizes which is really good for people who want bigger boards, all at US$49.95 so a decent price too.

Sizes 8.0 8.25 8.5 8.75 and 9.0

https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/old-skull-jimbo-skull-two-deck-assorted-stains/

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-j2hxjs/images/stencil/1024x1024/products/17890/79594/IMG-4545__17777.1642961830.jpg)

Damn I actually really like that graphic and that's an absolute steal for BBS wood. Def keeping an eye on it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 24, 2022, 03:59:08 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on January 23, 2022, 05:30:03 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2022, 02:47:41 PM
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To add to the shop boards list, (which will still happen), I saw an email from Old Skull for their new boards, on Generator (BBS) which come in all sizes which is really good for people who want bigger boards, all at US$49.95 so a decent price too.

Sizes 8.0 8.25 8.5 8.75 and 9.0

https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/old-skull-jimbo-skull-two-deck-assorted-stains/

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Damn I actually really like that graphic and that's an absolute steal for BBS wood. Def keeping an eye on it.

Rad!

I thought someone could benefit from that email - good wood, all sizes, good price.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: manysnakes on January 24, 2022, 06:18:16 AM

Maybe this happened and I missed it, but it might be helpful if someone collected a few photos of the tops of decks and created some kind of slideshow to help identify boards makers by sight, instead of by name. For example, it's a lot easier for me to remember the BBS dot than it is to recollect that such-and-such maker used BBS during 2021.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2022, 09:18:24 AM

I hate being repetitive but hoping to get an answer:

What other brands have shapes like Crail- which are shorter in lenghth and have more fingers of flat. Also, their fuller shapes aren’t that full, which I like.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on January 24, 2022, 11:33:14 AM

Quote from: manysnakes on January 24, 2022, 06:18:16 AM

Maybe this happened and I missed it, but it might be helpful if someone collected a few photos of the tops of decks and created some kind of slideshow to help identify boards makers by sight, instead of by name. For example, it's a lot easier for me to remember the BBS dot than it is to recollect that such-and-such maker used BBS during 2021.

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 16, 2021, 02:12:20 AM

Would a list of woodshops that included pics of top of board markings be good too?

Not sure if it would be too much information at the start or what.

I have been compiling some which would make it a whole lot easier for some people to reference and then be able to work out what the boards were, but I think there will still be a lot of others or generic boards with similar stickers on them so people could get confused and not know.

Eg

Clutch - usually (but not always) has a letter and a number stamped into the wood around the front bolt holes, then often the size in a dot sticker often over the stamp, or right beside it.

PS Stix - always has some sort of laser engraving information but mainly has SN# PS 39383837 type of info, which is the identifying info of that particular deck, the warning sticker usually higher up on the nose.

BBS - harder to tell with no sticker (unless it has Generator sticker) but often just a dot imprint around front bolts area and sometimes laser engraving for the specific brand, if not "Built by BBS" and size info, sometimes the warning sticker over the bolts, but usually just above the bolts.

Dwindle - laser engraving with serial number, size, brand info under the front bolts area, not between the front bolt holes.

Control - red white maple leaf sticker in between front bolts.

HLC - laser engraving with info on the deck, more often under the front bolts, but usually lower down closer to the back bolts in the middle area.

Generic manufacturer in China - usually just the size of the deck either between front bolts, just under it, or from another place, on the top or bottom under the back bolts, usually a bigger font.

See above - idk if there’s a specific post with pics, just lots of pics scattered throughout this thread.
Either way, hats off to Mr Brimson for the huge effort he’s put into to this thread and keeping it updated. Cheers, cobber!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: manysnakes on January 24, 2022, 11:41:53 AM

Someone should amend that to the first post. It’s extremely inconvenient to search through months of posts, but thank you for doing that! And thanks to Mbrimson for making that list!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: brucewillis on January 24, 2022, 12:52:37 PM

Magenta, Uma Landsleds, Rave Skateboards and Habitat are being made at IBL woodshop here in Brazil.

Great wood and shapes, skating a Habitat Fred Gall 8.25 rn and it's amazing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 24, 2022, 02:59:50 PM

Quote from: brucewillis on January 24, 2022, 12:52:37 PM

Magenta, Uma Landsleds, Rave Skateboards and Habitat are being made at IBL woodshop here in Brazil.

Great wood and shapes, skating a Habitat Fred Gall 8.25 rn and it's amazing.

Thanks for that info - I seem to recall something about IBL before but I am now following their instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/iblskateboards/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-MzdmQAWg9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlDXzCRnBe2/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHa_cd5gJdt/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2022, 03:48:45 PM

I had been thinking about this for a while, but I guess it fell into the "Do it later" list and I forgot about it.

Ideally I wanted to start from scratch and make a "Woodshop" super post, with the first twenty or so posts being from the same account, so it is a lot easier to modify and add information on the first page, keeping information all together - all the information, pics, etc can be added to those posts so the first whole page has all the relevant information.

The idea was to create an account that could be accessed by multiple people as well, with a generic username and that account would be the one that created the new Woodshop thread, but as yet others had said that was not such a good idea as someone could gain access and delete or negatively modify the thread, so I am still working on that one.

As it stands with this thread:

First post - woodshop list, alphabetically listed, then woodshop list on the same post

Second post - woodshop list, manufacturers first, then distributors second (that is any company that does not manufacture their own boards, but prints decks for others)

Third post, pics and info re woodshops identifications, see below anyway:

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2021, 01:52:40 AM

The third and last post will be an accumulated list of information with pics of various woodshops markings, so they are all in the one place.

Note this will be changing as brands and woodshops update their information but I will try to copy relevant pics to here in this post so they are all in the one place and people don't have to look through all the previous threads or the 30+ pages of information.

This will take some time, so I hope to have this going within a week.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 24, 2022, 04:32:29 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2022, 09:18:24 AM

I hate being repetitive but hoping to get an answer:

What other brands have shapes like Crail- which are shorter in lenghth and have more fingers of flat. Also, their fuller shapes aren’t that full, which I like.

« on: January 23, 2022, 12:24:12 PM »
Agreeing with an earlier opinion that a lot of Crail shapes are better than DLX shapes I’ve skated.

Not sure if the first question just got lost in the previous page, or no one (myself included) really knows much about Crail wood shapes compared to how much there is on other brands / woodshops, or enough to be able to easily compare them.

I find that people who often frequently skate Girl / Chocolate decks are different, with many not really straying too far from those boards, or are unable to go through much in detail with other boards, the most notable guy I know who always skates ONLY Girl boards really doesn't know a single thing about length, wheelbase, concave, etc (but he rips, so I don't bother him with product information or questions the way I would with other people).

As per your other comment, I definitely think there are often those in the DLX camp and those in the Crail camp, who often don't cross over a whole lot. Nothing wrong with that - people will prefer some boards over others and some presses / concaves over others too. I cannot ride Crail boards as they just feel weird, in the same way that others cannot ride BBS boards as they prefer other concaves / woodshops.

Sure it is a making an assumption but even reading through the Girl Shapes thread (which I will link below) they are very much their own company that know what they make and stick to it.

The only other boards coming out that appear similar or maybe from the same woodshop are the Zero / Toy Machine and other brands from an unknown woodshop with "Made in China" on them, of which there is little info and seemingly even less interest in, so it definitely makes it harder to find out any info.

From standing on Girl decks in other shops, they feel very much like Dwindle decks, of which I know there are many that have shorter wheelbases and lengths, so that might be the best option for you.

If you ride 8.25 boards, there should be a lot of those around, so can check the Dwindle catalog guide, as posted earlier (the last page) with the tail pics of their FULL shapes.

https://dwindle.com/catalogs

Girl Deck Shapes

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 25, 2022, 02:22:55 PM

From the Polar Shapes thread, some interesting info re sizes of Polar and Baker B2 decks:

Quote from: typeischeap on January 25, 2022, 08:48:31 AM

Polar 8.5 popsicle shape (measured by me): 32x8.5x14.375

Baker 8.5 B2 shape for control/reference (measured by me): 32.25x8.5x14.375

The B2 is always marked 14.5 as is the Polar so this is probably common knowledge but may help someone else.

Things that stand out about this shape are the tapered tail and relatively full nose without being FA/Hockey square, just slightly more round than the B2.

Thank you for that.

I had never seen a Baker B2 in person either, so didn't know that about them either, re slightly shorter wheelbase.

So most of the BBS 8.5 decks to me / the ones I have from a range of companies are a little bit longer in length and wheelbase, eg usual Baker decks say 32 long but they are more like 32.25, but all of them do seem to have a really good shape, nice rounded kicks, not pointy at all.

Heroin 8.5 might also be the same as the Polar boards, as I have one of those, 8.5 x 32 with 14.375 wb.

I don't know if you would notice the 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb being significantly different to the Polar deck, but I know even little things like that can make a big difference.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 25, 2022, 03:49:24 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 25, 2022, 02:22:55 PM

From the Polar Shapes thread, some interesting info re sizes of Polar and Baker B2 decks:

Quote from: typeischeap on January 25, 2022, 08:48:31 AM
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Polar 8.5 popsicle shape (measured by me): 32x8.5x14.375

Baker 8.5 B2 shape for control/reference (measured by me): 32.25x8.5x14.375

The B2 is always marked 14.5 as is the Polar so this is probably common knowledge but may help someone else.

Things that stand out about this shape are the tapered tail and relatively full nose without being FA/Hockey square, just slightly more round than the B2.
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Heroin 8.5 might also be the same as the Polar boards, as I have one of those, 8.5 x 32 with 14.375 wb.

I can confirm my 8.5 Toxic Fade Eyes has the same dims

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 26, 2022, 05:27:03 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on January 25, 2022, 03:49:24 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 25, 2022, 02:22:55 PM
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From the Polar Shapes thread, some interesting info re sizes of Polar and Baker B2 decks:

Quote from: typeischeap on January 25, 2022, 08:48:31 AM
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Polar 8.5 popsicle shape (measured by me): 32x8.5x14.375

Baker 8.5 B2 shape for control/reference (measured by me): 32.25x8.5x14.375

The B2 is always marked 14.5 as is the Polar so this is probably common knowledge but may help someone else.

Things that stand out about this shape are the tapered tail and relatively full nose without being FA/Hockey square, just slightly more round than the B2.
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Heroin 8.5 might also be the same as the Polar boards, as I have one of those, 8.5 x 32 with 14.375 wb.

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I can confirm my 8.5 Toxic Fade Eyes has the same dims

Thanks!

Crazy to think how many spec sheets on certain brand decks are wrong, or something happened along the way and things have changed in the dimensions department.

Any which way, at least it makes it easier for people on here, especially if you cannot go into a shop and check for yourself.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 26, 2022, 08:07:50 PM

For you MFG nerds

Wanting to get into the minutia of import genius has publicly available custom records. Search for a brand and you can track down where they get a lot of their products from. For example:
https://www.importgenius.com/importers/the-kayo-corp

and go to shipments, you can see that they get their wheels from a place called abacus. Clicking abacus, will show that they supply wheels to primitive as well as DGK. A lot of old data, but still fascinating

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 26, 2022, 09:24:37 PM

Quote from: TwisT on January 26, 2022, 08:07:50 PM

For you MFG nerds

Wanting to get into the minutia of import genius has publicly available custom records. Search for a brand and you can track down where they get a lot of their products from. For example:
https://www.importgenius.com/importers/the-kayo-corp

and go to shipments, you can see that they get their wheels from a place called abacus. Clicking abacus, will show that they supply wheels to primitive as well as DGK. A lot of old data, but still fascinating

Damn, I can see too many hours going to that some time soon...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on January 28, 2022, 07:46:06 PM

Anyone know what woodshop Greco uses for the hammers boards? Recently purchase on for the wall and really interested in the shape/wheel base on it but can’t fathom skating this one as was quite expensive to get shipped to aus. Wondering if I here’s any other company’s with this shaped board in their catalog. Dims in pic and added the board as well (https://i.ibb.co/2NdTLbS/45476626-1-FD4-46-EE-AA2-E-C2705-BDE17-B9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2NdTLbS)(https://i.ibb.co/Vg0q39c/E3-A6-A1-F2-7-C5-F-4-B16-92-CE-AB5-E2-A90-DBBA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg0q39c)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 01:01:33 AM

Quote from: Orangepulp1000 on January 28, 2022, 07:46:06 PM

Anyone know what woodshop Greco uses for the hammers boards? Recently purchase on for the wall and really interested in the shape/wheel base on it but can’t fathom skating this one as was quite expensive to get shipped to aus. Wondering if I here’s any other company’s with this shaped board in their catalog. Dims in pic and added the board as well (https://i.ibb.co/2NdTLbS/45476626-1-FD4-46-EE-AA2-E-C2705-BDE17-B9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2NdTLbS)(https://i.ibb.co/Vg0q39c/E3-A6-A1-F2-7-C5-F-4-B16-92-CE-AB5-E2-A90-DBBA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg0q39c)

BBS = the previous connection to Baker and same single imprint dot between the middle bolts area is almost the giveaway but I do recall someone else getting one and saying it was from BBS woodshop.

The dimensions (apart from the really short 13.75 wheelbase) are pretty much the standard 8.25 boards on most of the companies that use BBS, most usually on between 14.1 to 14.3 but average is about 14.25 wb.

There are lots of options there, from Baker and Deathwish as the closest related boards, to pretty much any across the BBS range / list.

It was on the more mellow side, from what I read from the other post about those decks, so that would usually not be so much companies like FA / Hockey or any of the FULL shaped decks from other brands.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 29, 2022, 01:42:20 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 26, 2022, 08:07:50 PM

For you MFG nerds

Wanting to get into the minutia of import genius has publicly available custom records. Search for a brand and you can track down where they get a lot of their products from. For example:
https://www.importgenius.com/importers/the-kayo-corp

and go to shipments, you can see that they get their wheels from a place called abacus. Clicking abacus, will show that they supply wheels to primitive as well as DGK. A lot of old data, but still fascinating

Yeah I posted about this like a year ago somewhere on here (maybe last year's WS thread?) .. There's a whole bunch of these import registry database sites and they all try to entice you to pay for access by offering a few basic records (usually 3)...but they don't all pull from the same source all the time so you can actually build up a decent picture by going through a handful of them.

I did actually pay for temp access (or maybe used a paywall extension to get around it, don't remember exactly) on one of them so I could see who one of the woodshops was shipping to but I didn't make any stunning revelations and it was a pretty boring hunt overall haha

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 03:52:04 AM

Well it took a while, but the new thread for 2022 is now up and some info already roughly added to the woodshop list on the first page.

Any more info, please add to this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 29, 2022, 03:53:27 AM

Just in case anyone is wondering, yes that other one is going to replace this thread, but I am not about to lock or shut this one down until the other one is completely up and running with all relevant info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mon on March 24, 2022, 06:18:37 AM

Not sure if anyone can help without a reference picture. I’m sorry I forgot to take a photo
I’ve just set up a board from a local brand here in the Philippines called Agenda, has a pretty good shape. I noticed on the top ply there was a stamp that said Newport MFG and some numbers I think or something along those lines , is anyone familiar with this manufacturer?

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 24, 2022, 08:42:17 AM

Quote from: Mon on March 24, 2022, 06:18:37 AM

Not sure if anyone can help without a reference picture. I’m sorry I forgot to take a photo
I’ve just set up a board from a local brand here in the Philippines called Agenda, has a pretty good shape. I noticed on the top ply there was a stamp that said Newport MFG and some numbers I think or something along those lines , is anyone familiar with this manufacturer?

Thanks!

Interesting you mentioned Newport MFG, I saw another Pinoy brand with the same top markings. Really steep, stiff but thin feeling decks, a nice combination. Been on the hunt too but no solid leads.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2021 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mon on March 24, 2022, 02:47:42 PM

The brand has this shape that has a square nose and tail, it’s really nice which has made me really curious.
Cheers

Quote from: rocklobster on March 24, 2022, 08:42:17 AM

Quote from: Mon on March 24, 2022, 06:18:37 AM
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Not sure if anyone can help without a reference picture. I’m sorry I forgot to take a photo
I’ve just set up a board from a local brand here in the Philippines called Agenda, has a pretty good shape. I noticed on the top ply there was a stamp that said Newport MFG and some numbers I think or something along those lines , is anyone familiar with this manufacturer?

Thanks!
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Interesting you mentioned Newport MFG, I saw another Pinoy brand with the same top markings. Really steep, stiff but thin feeling decks, a nice combination. Been on the hunt too but no solid leads.

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