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Title: Lightest boards
Post by: Steve Kelly on March 21, 2021, 01:03:39 AM
What do you think are the lightest boards out right now? And also still have good snap.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Lykun on March 21, 2021, 01:39:34 AM
I haven't had many decks, but my Zero is really nice and light, goes well with my Thunder Titaniums with Clouds on 'em... at least it's the best I got...

I have a Plan B with Mag Lites, and it's pretty heavy compared.

(I realize this may not make sense, but I wanted to test the Zero on known trucks.)
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on March 21, 2021, 02:58:07 AM
Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
Best deck I ever skated
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on March 21, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
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Best deck I ever skated
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: michael scarn on March 21, 2021, 10:18:35 AM
 Almost 7.25 double impact
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on March 21, 2021, 10:23:51 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
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Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
I stopped caring about what’s cool when stair counting went out of style.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 22, 2021, 01:25:23 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
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Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
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I stopped caring about what’s cool when stair counting went out of style.

I gotta agree...the boards are super light and last way longer than my normal deluxe board. Also, Ben Hatchell rules
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Ok on March 22, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
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Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: banksandledges on March 22, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
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Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
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Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.

I’m going to second that motion.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on March 22, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
I'm not trying to sell anyone on them. I've been riding Deluxe boards forever, but opted for a McGill Flight because I'd been wanting to try out a 9" board, plus McGill had my favorite VCJ graphic. I have a deep quiver, but I fucking love this board. The only problem is they're typically in the $85-$95 price range. If you see one of the standard shaped Flight boards on sale, I'd highly recommend trying one out.

You might not see many in the wild because they don't make a ton and they're super hard to come by (except the Biss bug ones).

(https://d1nui66cqrbhn5.cloudfront.net/assets/powellperalta/productimage/size/417x1500/method/strict/v/97a8/DCPAFLTMMSS0321821.jpg)
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 22, 2021, 05:57:28 PM
^this shape looks awesome, and a lighter board would definitely be appreciated at 9". Can I ask what the wheelbase is?
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on March 22, 2021, 06:19:52 PM
^this shape looks awesome, and a lighter board would definitely be appreciated at 9". Can I ask what the wheelbase is?
14.6" - This board is actually lighter than any of my DLX 8.5 boards and I really love this shape, even if it’s meant to be more of a vert board.

Some 9” Cab Flight boards just shipped out last week and are popping up in shops this week. The graphic isn't quite the McGill panty dropper, though
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/2b/9c/782b9c4a8d9af1f8a6c56faac303aa3e.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yECLNL4.jpg)
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Maurice46 on March 22, 2021, 06:48:33 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
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Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
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I’m going to second that motion.

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Sicebox on March 22, 2021, 08:26:28 PM
What do you think are the lightest boards out right now? And also still have good snap.
If you really wanna get light, buy tensor mag light trucks. They are so light its fucking regular. I love it and haven't skated anything else in years
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 23, 2021, 09:19:20 AM
I just had one of those impact light boards from Thank You supply and it lasted three months and never got floppy, which is probably a record. Finally gave it up because the tail got too sharp. It seemed pretty light too. Would recommend
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: michael scarn on March 23, 2021, 09:23:56 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
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I’m going to second that motion.
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I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
Nah man i feel that. Those graphics are pretty terrible. I know all the graphics get scratched off anyway but i still want a board graphic i actually like.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Steve Kelly on March 23, 2021, 10:08:16 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
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I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Maurice46 on March 23, 2021, 10:20:23 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
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Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.

Yes, they are essentially the same. I've skated both extensively and haven't noticed any difference in strength and quality. However, as I mentioned, the shapes and graphics of the VX are infinitely better. Also, NHS does SC and Creature VX boards so there is a nice variety. The only issue is that they seem to be so low key popular, like the flight decks, that they can be hard to get. For instance, right now they seem to be out everywhere. Lastly, only the Santa Cruz boards designated VX use the carbon fiber tech, not all SC boards. Again, can't recommend these boards enough. They are great! I usually buy two at a time to avoid being stuck without one.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: InVerseKinematicKingy on March 23, 2021, 11:02:22 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
[close]

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
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Yes, they are essentially the same. I've skated both extensively and haven't noticed any difference in strength and quality. However, as I mentioned, the shapes and graphics of the VX are infinitely better. Also, NHS does SC and Creature VX boards so there is a nice variety. The only issue is that they seem to be so low key popular, like the flight decks, that they can be hard to get. For instance, right now they seem to be out everywhere. Lastly, only the Santa Cruz boards designated VX use the carbon fiber tech, not all SC boards. Again, can't recommend these boards enough. They are great! I usually buy two at a time to avoid being stuck without one.

Making the claim that anything NHS makes is even on par with whatever the fuck Skate One does seems laughable. Have not skated the VX boards, but that just seems crazy to me. I rode a lot of powell boards, and many other brands in my time on the board. For the past 5 years I’ve been skating DLX primarily, so I’m not a Powell homer. Now saying that, I still think Powell makes the best boards in the game and it’s not even close. They make there shit in America, George is a damn fucking good engineer, and he puts a lot of work into QA/QC it seems with their products. I would genuinely be surprised if you actually scientifically tested both boards, that the VX board would be remotely close. I don’t know the numbers since I don’t think anyone has done it in regards to comparing both boards, but I do recognize historically better engineering in comparing Powell with NHS. NHS makes there VX boards in China right? If they are doing that level of tech in Mexico, I would be shocked due to the cost associated with everything. I mean they were doing the colored Indy’s for the longest time, with only the silvers made in America. I’m pretty sure that has changed too, and now all Indy is out of China.
If it’s going to China, it is an inherently inferior product, at least when it comes to boards.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Maurice46 on March 23, 2021, 11:12:16 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
[close]

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
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Yes, they are essentially the same. I've skated both extensively and haven't noticed any difference in strength and quality. However, as I mentioned, the shapes and graphics of the VX are infinitely better. Also, NHS does SC and Creature VX boards so there is a nice variety. The only issue is that they seem to be so low key popular, like the flight decks, that they can be hard to get. For instance, right now they seem to be out everywhere. Lastly, only the Santa Cruz boards designated VX use the carbon fiber tech, not all SC boards. Again, can't recommend these boards enough. They are great! I usually buy two at a time to avoid being stuck without one.
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Making the claim that anything NHS makes is even on par with whatever the fuck Skate One does seems laughable. Have not skated the VX boards, but that just seems crazy to me. I rode a lot of powell boards, and many other brands in my time on the board. For the past 5 years I’ve been skating DLX primarily, so I’m not a Powell homer. Now saying that, I still think Powell makes the best boards in the game and it’s not even close. They make there shit in America, George is a damn fucking good engineer, and he puts a lot of work into QA/QC it seems with their products. I would genuinely be surprised if you actually scientifically tested both boards, that the VX board would be remotely close. I don’t know the numbers since I don’t think anyone has done it in regards to comparing both boards, but I do recognize historically better engineering in comparing Powell with NHS. NHS makes there VX boards in China right? If they are doing that level of tech in Mexico, I would be shocked due to the cost associated with everything. I mean they were doing the colored Indy’s for the longest time, with only the silvers made in America. I’m pretty sure that has changed too, and now all Indy is out of China.
If it’s going to China, it is an inherently inferior product, at least when it comes to boards.

I see...
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on March 23, 2021, 11:30:04 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
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Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
Santa Cruz and Powell quality are the same. Almosts carbon fiber board wasn’t as good though. I actually managed to snap that one
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: InVerseKinematicKingy on March 23, 2021, 11:42:54 AM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
[close]

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
[close]
Santa Cruz and Powell quality are the same. Almosts carbon fiber board wasn’t as good though. I actually managed to snap that one

Which almost board are you talking about? There’s like 6-7 variations over the years. The Uber Light was redesigned at least once or twice. They have the regular impact, double impact, and impact light they have promoted through the years. The impact stuff is much more akin to what the flight/VX decks are, where as the UBER light boards were a completely different technology. Rodney also had/Has even more crazy versions of the UBER board he used in round 3. Not sure if many people know this, but Rodney’s board in round 3, every single aspect is not sold for mass consumerism. If you ever bought the round 3 DVD, at period of time they had a little 4 page pamphlet going into the board he uses in the video.

Now the original Uber light I had, like back when that got first mass produced in 06-07. It was light as hell, but the oscillation was so fucking weird. The damping factor was quite high compared to wood on the OG batchs, and the boards would literally not oscillate. You also saw really bad problems with Delam. I recently skated one a few years ago, and it looked like all those things were cleaned up. Now as far as snapping is concerned I would imagine they snap still much worse due to their construction. If you ever skated a bamboo board, u would know what I’m talking about, where when you snap it the board cracks vertically as opposed to the traditional horizontal break. I would assume that they still snap as bad, but I would bet their performance is higher than either the flight or VX board when it comes to weight, but I bet the other two boards still oscillate as good. On a random note, for a while there when the UBER stuff first came out, Dwindle also had those Blind aluminum core boards, and those were the fucking shit. Prolly would have rode those my entire life if the option was available.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: roba on March 23, 2021, 01:39:40 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
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I’m going to second that motion.

i know some people that had them and they really are light and barely get soggy. never owned one though because that shit is mad expensive here, i could buy 3 normal decks for that price
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Lou Strux on March 23, 2021, 01:46:36 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
[close]

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
[close]
Santa Cruz and Powell quality are the same. Almosts carbon fiber board wasn’t as good though. I actually managed to snap that one
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Which almost board are you talking about? There’s like 6-7 variations over the years. The Uber Light was redesigned at least once or twice. They have the regular impact, double impact, and impact light they have promoted through the years. The impact stuff is much more akin to what the flight/VX decks are, where as the UBER light boards were a completely different technology. Rodney also had/Has even more crazy versions of the UBER board he used in round 3. Not sure if many people know this, but Rodney’s board in round 3, every single aspect is not sold for mass consumerism. If you ever bought the round 3 DVD, at period of time they had a little 4 page pamphlet going into the board he uses in the video.

Now the original Uber light I had, like back when that got first mass produced in 06-07. It was light as hell, but the oscillation was so fucking weird. The damping factor was quite high compared to wood on the OG batchs, and the boards would literally not oscillate. You also saw really bad problems with Delam. I recently skated one a few years ago, and it looked like all those things were cleaned up. Now as far as snapping is concerned I would imagine they snap still much worse due to their construction. If you ever skated a bamboo board, u would know what I’m talking about, where when you snap it the board cracks vertically as opposed to the traditional horizontal break. I would assume that they still snap as bad, but I would bet their performance is higher than either the flight or VX board when it comes to weight, but I bet the other two boards still oscillate as good. On a random note, for a while there when the UBER stuff first came out, Dwindle also had those Blind aluminum core boards, and those were the fucking shit. Prolly would have rode those my entire life if the option was available.
What did you think of the && Flight Deck though?
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: InVerseKinematicKingy on March 23, 2021, 01:59:17 PM
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Nobody want to face the truth about this but the lightest board with most pop are those weird Powell ones
[close]
Best deck I ever skated
[close]
I know they aren’t cool, but I’m currently using a Powell Flight board and it’s amazing. They’re crazy light, hella pop, and last forever.
[close]


Mmmm....ok well I can trust CL, but at the same time, with my own eyes, I’ve never seen a flight deck in the wild, underneath an Ollie practitioner.
[close]

I’m going to second that motion.
[close]

I was riding the flight decks for a year or so and can attest to all their praise. Long lasting, pop, etc. That said, in the last year I switched to Santa Cruz's similar tech, VX. All the same attributes as the flight decks but much better with respect to shapes and the graphics are typically either good or neutral, while the flight deck's graphics are almost always painful. Immature I know but still...
[close]

Thanks for the info! So the Santa Cruz boards are essentially the same you would say? Are all their boards VX? Def would rather that. It seems hard to even track down a flight board anyways.
[close]
Santa Cruz and Powell quality are the same. Almosts carbon fiber board wasn’t as good though. I actually managed to snap that one
[close]

Which almost board are you talking about? There’s like 6-7 variations over the years. The Uber Light was redesigned at least once or twice. They have the regular impact, double impact, and impact light they have promoted through the years. The impact stuff is much more akin to what the flight/VX decks are, where as the UBER light boards were a completely different technology. Rodney also had/Has even more crazy versions of the UBER board he used in round 3. Not sure if many people know this, but Rodney’s board in round 3, every single aspect is not sold for mass consumerism. If you ever bought the round 3 DVD, at period of time they had a little 4 page pamphlet going into the board he uses in the video.

Now the original Uber light I had, like back when that got first mass produced in 06-07. It was light as hell, but the oscillation was so fucking weird. The damping factor was quite high compared to wood on the OG batchs, and the boards would literally not oscillate. You also saw really bad problems with Delam. I recently skated one a few years ago, and it looked like all those things were cleaned up. Now as far as snapping is concerned I would imagine they snap still much worse due to their construction. If you ever skated a bamboo board, u would know what I’m talking about, where when you snap it the board cracks vertically as opposed to the traditional horizontal break. I would assume that they still snap as bad, but I would bet their performance is higher than either the flight or VX board when it comes to weight, but I bet the other two boards still oscillate as good. On a random note, for a while there when the UBER stuff first came out, Dwindle also had those Blind aluminum core boards, and those were the fucking shit. Prolly would have rode those my entire life if the option was available.
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What did you think of the && Flight Deck though?

Ive wanted to try it, but it literally sells out or whatever. That kid must literally sell the stupidest amount of boards.

I’m not into shaped boards at all, unless it’s a poolboard/cruiser/longboard that has a niche optimal purpose.

The board has a very unusual shape, so I have no idea if I’d like it. I always thought the Steadham board was the best damn shape for pool board, so I’m willing to give it a try. I’m curious how it performs on manuals more than anything with that shape.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 23, 2021, 02:31:50 PM
Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Lou Strux on March 23, 2021, 03:47:06 PM
Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass
That’s the #1 reason I retire boards these days, frankly.
Up until recently, I hadn’t broken a deck in 7 years or so.
I’m not their target market tho.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: InVerseKinematicKingy on March 23, 2021, 05:26:54 PM
Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass

What does a normal 7 ply cost you? For me a normal board is $50-$60, and flight boards I have seen between $85-$100. Dwindle stuff has always been in the same ballpark for me. The cost isn’t the thing stopping me from getting flight boards, it’s consistent distribution.

I personally stick with Deluxe since I like consistency with wood/shape, and I travel an awful lot which means Powell isn’t an option. There are a lot of shops that don’t carry Powell because they are too “cool guy”, y’all know those loser ass vibes. Every schmuck and his mom thinks Deluxe is cool even though they are as lame a fucking company as you can have in a lot of ways. I will say they make the 2nd best boards in the industry, and other than the holiday seasons their QA/QC is consistent enough.


Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 23, 2021, 06:02:39 PM
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Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass
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What does a normal 7 ply cost you? For me a normal board is $50-$60, and flight boards I have seen between $85-$100. Dwindle stuff has always been in the same ballpark for me. The cost isn’t the thing stopping me from getting flight boards, it’s consistent distribution.

I personally stick with Deluxe since I like consistency with wood/shape, and I travel an awful lot which means Powell isn’t an option. There are a lot of shops that don’t carry Powell because they are too “cool guy”, y’all know those loser ass vibes. Every schmuck and his mom thinks Deluxe is cool even though they are as lame a fucking company as you can have in a lot of ways. I will say they make the 2nd best boards in the industry, and other than the holiday seasons their QA/QC is consistent enough.
The exchange rate has been fluctuating between 60c and 75c on the dollar in the last few years. Current prices look like:
Quasi: $130nzd = $91usd
Baker: $150nzd = $105usd
FA: $180nzd = $125usd
Powell Flight $250nzd = $175usd

Also my city is one of the most expensive in the world to live in, in terms of wages vs cost of living. Rent, food, gas, imported goods are all pricey.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: cucktard on March 23, 2021, 06:48:59 PM
I have 2 Flights in the go. One pool, one popsicle. I’ve ridden both for about a year (I’m stingy with decks, and don’t snap them. I’m pretty low-impact and do more ramp skating and slappies than anything else).

Having said that, the pop is still fine. If the board razortails, I just sand it down a bit.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: InVerseKinematicKingy on March 23, 2021, 07:11:12 PM
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Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass
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What does a normal 7 ply cost you? For me a normal board is $50-$60, and flight boards I have seen between $85-$100. Dwindle stuff has always been in the same ballpark for me. The cost isn’t the thing stopping me from getting flight boards, it’s consistent distribution.

I personally stick with Deluxe since I like consistency with wood/shape, and I travel an awful lot which means Powell isn’t an option. There are a lot of shops that don’t carry Powell because they are too “cool guy”, y’all know those loser ass vibes. Every schmuck and his mom thinks Deluxe is cool even though they are as lame a fucking company as you can have in a lot of ways. I will say they make the 2nd best boards in the industry, and other than the holiday seasons their QA/QC is consistent enough.
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The exchange rate has been fluctuating between 60c and 75c on the dollar in the last few years. Current prices look like:
Quasi: $130nzd = $91usd
Baker: $150nzd = $105usd
FA: $180nzd = $125usd
Powell Flight $250nzd = $175usd

Also my city is one of the most expensive in the world to live in, in terms of wages vs cost of living. Rent, food, gas, imported goods are all pricey.

That’s wild bro. In the states boards run $50-$60 regardless of brand. Europe it varies wildly. The Brazilian market is something else entirely. As far as the pacific market goes, I’m not too familiar outside of Japan. I once spent a layover in Ohare or Denver for 6 hours drinking with the dudes who made those wild multi axis longboard trucks for Oz that you can customize and have like rods in, and they gave me a pretty in depth rundown of the market years ago. I know boards fluctuate wildly like that. Shit would irritate the hell out of me considering brands use the same woodshops, but get prices differently without differences like silk vs. heat transfer, etc. also on a random note, if people heat transfer to boards I don’t buy the bullshit from every company out there that it doesn’t damage structural integrity. It does, and I don’t know why this myth has been out there for so long.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 24, 2021, 04:55:08 AM
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Y'all made me look up the Powell flight decks. In NZ that'll cost me $175usd for a deck that's still going to razortail. Hard pass
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What does a normal 7 ply cost you? For me a normal board is $50-$60, and flight boards I have seen between $85-$100. Dwindle stuff has always been in the same ballpark for me. The cost isn’t the thing stopping me from getting flight boards, it’s consistent distribution.

I personally stick with Deluxe since I like consistency with wood/shape, and I travel an awful lot which means Powell isn’t an option. There are a lot of shops that don’t carry Powell because they are too “cool guy”, y’all know those loser ass vibes. Every schmuck and his mom thinks Deluxe is cool even though they are as lame a fucking company as you can have in a lot of ways. I will say they make the 2nd best boards in the industry, and other than the holiday seasons their QA/QC is consistent enough.

Who makes the best? Powell ?
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: eSK3 on March 24, 2021, 06:56:26 AM
The boards Gangemi is doing are light and have crispy pop!
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 24, 2021, 09:05:11 PM

The reason I would put Schmitt below Deluxe in terms of a woodshop is the quality control, and especially with different brands under their house.
I've personally seen more issues with quality control from DLX than PS Stix, but hey I'm not an engineer with a Dylan-esque kickflip
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: pbj on March 24, 2021, 10:48:56 PM
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Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: cucktard on March 25, 2021, 01:59:32 AM
Powell does seem to have a good name in the notoriously technically-minded field of downhill wheels. That’s probably where a lot of the friction research goes, developing high-rebound urethane that has a delicate balance between grip and wear durability
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Masshole on March 25, 2021, 12:10:17 PM
The boards Gangemi is doing are light and have crispy pop!
I'm on my third one, loving them so far. Personally I'd like a slightly bigger tail but I like the boards enough to overlook that. Very sturdy.
Title: Re: Lightest boards
Post by: Lykun on April 05, 2021, 04:16:32 PM
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What do you think are the lightest boards out right now? And also still have good snap.
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If you really wanna get light, buy tensor mag light trucks. They are so light its fucking regular. I love it and haven't skated anything else in years

I splurged on a pair of maglites last year because they were out of those fancy Krux I wanted to try so bad, and I can say they're crazy light, but I think to really get the full effect, they have to be on an equally light deck, else if feels a bit off-balance, IMO.  I can't grind yet, so I can't say how they are besides riding, and flatground, but mine are on a Plan B board with Big Balls bearings (slow as hell), and it just makes the board feel... maybe a bit unstable, unbalanced?  Maybe just unusual...

Not just because of the slow Big Balls bearings, but even with the maglites, I usually grab my Zero with Super Reds, and hollow titanium Thunders...

If the maglites were on a super light board, which from this thread I gather are the Flight Lite, and Santa Cruz VX, then maybe you'd see a massive improvement in terms of weight, but I don't think weight is the holy grail, I mean, there's also your deck's elasticity, and how it rebounds off the pavement, and that really has to do with the wood, and concave, I would think...

Also light deck, light trucks might be easier to get off the ground, and a lighter deck might have more elasticity, but what about inertia?  can you get as much air-time with a light deck as with a heavy board?  won't the heavy board have more inertia once in the air?  Like won't a lighter set-up fall faster than a heavy one?

Like I'm trying with two erasers right now, and it seems the smaller one doesn't hang in the air as long as the big one...

So maybe that's another factor to take into consideration?