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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: pamier on April 10, 2021, 10:28:52 AM
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The cheap and worst aren’t always the same but you usually get what you pay for.
I picked up some Diamond shoes and I thought they had amazing flick probably because I was skating pretty much just hot glue b4. Only after I picked up some slip on pros did I realize how nice fs flips could feel.
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Found some FKD Swiss bearings on Amazon for dirt cheap. They were utter trash and slow as heck.
Picked up some Osiris from Ross and the suede was that weird cardboard like material. The flick was bad and I never had boardfeel in them.
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Got some 30$ Emerica Romero Laced as a gift and they were fucking awesome
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I bought a pair of eS Swift 1.5 last year when Zumiez online had like $20 shoes. I ripped a hole in the suede my first session. Was super bummed.
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Enjoi bearings, half of them were seized up out of the box; had to clean them and re-lube them and popped shields before the first use...and they still sucked.
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Got some squishy bs blank white 51mm wheels off ebay. Pure junk.
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Black Diamond Griptape
Solid cheap grip
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Had some no name grip that was so thick and stiff/hard that it peeled off the nose in a full layer. Also the roll felt like it was literally rocks cast into a layer of plastic. Effortlessly peeled it off the deck without heat in one piece.
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I really liked the pair of Straye’s I skate.
always get mixed up with state and straye both pretty nice, get clowned for wearing state though because all the kids at my local think it says skate and is some generic brand. all good though cuz i got that financial responsibility and can look fresh for less than the price of reduced school lunch, big ups ben gore
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$2 griptape from ebay during last year's hardgoods shortage. Really thin and my shoe tore a hole in it after 1 session. What even.
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Found some FKD Swiss bearings on Amazon for dirt cheap. They were utter trash and slow as heck.
Picked up some Osiris from Ross and the suede was that weird cardboard like material. The flick was bad and I never had boardfeel in them.
Whatever fkd uses for lubricant sucks but both sets I've had were pretty good once I took them apart and rinsed with acetone. Same with Andale, horrible out of the package but once I broke them in and cleaned them they were fine (other than the shields bending if you so much as breathe on them). I do think the FKD retainer that doubles as it's own shield is a pretty cool design.
Not cheap but Gullwings fucking suck. They're heavy, ugly, and no matter how much I cranked them down they still wobbled any time I was going over 10mph.
As for cheap, I don't know if anyone remembers titan ti-light trucks but they're the most janky trucks I've ever seen. They weigh next to nothing because the hanger is basically open and made of some cheap alloy that feels like plastic. To prevent axle slip they drill a hole through the hanger and axle and then put a piece of metal in it and flatten the ends like a janky ass rivet. They also manage to consistently wheelbite without actually turning,. The turn is so bad they make krux or the old slide plate tensors feel like fucking aces.
The guy who owned them occasionally sells old stock on ebay for like $12 a pair so if you want to play a really mean joke on your skate buddies swap their trucks out for a pair of titans, that's pretty much the only thing they're good for.
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Found some FKD Swiss bearings on Amazon for dirt cheap. They were utter trash and slow as heck.
Picked up some Osiris from Ross and the suede was that weird cardboard like material. The flick was bad and I never had boardfeel in them.
Whatever fkd uses for lubricant sucks but both sets I've had were pretty good once I took them apart and rinsed with acetone. Same with Andale, horrible out of the package but once I broke them in and cleaned them they were fine (other than the shields bending if you so much as breathe on them). I do think the FKD retainer that doubles as it's own shield is a pretty cool design.
Not cheap but Gullwings fucking suck. They're heavy, ugly, and no matter how much I cranked them down they still wobbled any time I was going over 10mph.
As for cheap, I don't know if anyone remembers titan ti-light trucks but they're the most janky trucks I've ever seen. They weigh next to nothing because the hanger is basically open and made of some cheap alloy that feels like plastic. To prevent axle slip they drill a hole through the hanger and axle and then put a piece of metal in it and flatten the ends like a janky ass rivet. They also manage to consistently wheelbite without actually turning,. The turn is so bad they make krux or the old slide plate tensors feel like fucking aces.
The guy who owned them occasionally sells old stock on ebay for like $12 a pair so if you want to play a really mean joke on your skate buddies swap their trucks out for a pair of titans, that's pretty much the only thing they're good for.
I always forget about Titans. A friend of mine had them back in the day and they felt unridable.
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i skated a pair of poshmark dress shoes after a bad interview
flick pretty good, pointy toe helps. Surprisingly did not rip in 1 session
tread horrible, and it felt like skating barefoot tbh
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I couldn’t afford griptape and stuck orange sandpaper that my dad had laying around to my board.
It sucked.
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Bronson Raws are the worst bearings in the game.
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Bronson Raws are the worst bearings in the game.
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Back in 2012ish City Trends in the hood shopping plaza had a fuck load of Supra Antwaun Dixon pro shoes in purple and red for $15 I scooped up at least 12 pairs. Now as far functionality they were on point but since it was canvas they shredded like wheat but if they were in a suede or something tougher I’d gladly give them a try again.
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This isn't skateboarding related but i bought a Slayer shirt with the pentagram on it and my mother made me throw it away
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supra shoes that when I went on the tombstone (high outcrop of vert in a small bowl) my feet were sliding at the apex. nonononono.
They were cupsole and never broke in. They were also hideous in hindsight
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Back in 2012ish City Trends in the hood shopping plaza had a fuck load of Supra Antwaun Dixon pro shoes in purple and red for $15 I scooped up at least 12 pairs. Now as far functionality they were on point but since it was canvas they shredded like wheat but if they were in a suede or something tougher I’d gladly give them a try again.
I forgot I owned a pair of Antwuans until this reminded me, great cupsoles from what I remember.
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Got these from my local for $20, worst insole ever.
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bought these "Slant" brand trucks cause they were wide, and looked fun, my cruiser. For those of you who don't know, slant was a dwindle price point truck brand. They scraped this line to just make the tensor alloy trucks instead. From What i can tell they're are identical though. They're an 8,75 truck. The turn like complete ass. Even with the new bushings, over cranked kingpin bolt, 2 sets of 1/8in risers, they were still garbage. I just replaced them with some ace 66s.
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bought these "Slant" brand trucks cause they were wide, and looked fun, my cruiser. For those of you who don't know, slant was a dwindle price point truck brand. They scraped this line to just make the tensor alloy trucks instead. From What i can tell they're are identical though. They're an 8,75 truck. The turn like complete ass. Even with the new bushings, over cranked kingpin bolt, 2 sets of 1/8in risers, they were still garbage. I just replaced them with some ace 66s.
What about the turn did you not like? Ive been riding the Tensor alloys in the 5.5/8.25 and 6.0/8.75 and feel they have a great turn. Right on par with mini logo trucks. If you look closely at film trucks, they use practically the same base plate as the tensor/slant trucks with a taller hanger and people love their turn from what I've read. The old version of film trucks even have the same hanger/base plate design as the tensor alloy/slants.
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Silver trucks back in the day. One of the hangers literally broke in half from an ollie off like a 3 ft drop. I saved money to buy those things too, thanks a lot P-Rod!
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bought these "Slant" brand trucks cause they were wide, and looked fun, my cruiser. For those of you who don't know, slant was a dwindle price point truck brand. They scraped this line to just make the tensor alloy trucks instead. From What i can tell they're are identical though. They're an 8,75 truck. The turn like complete ass. Even with the new bushings, over cranked kingpin bolt, 2 sets of 1/8in risers, they were still garbage. I just replaced them with some ace 66s.
I used to skate those once in a while a part of a globe cruiser and they were pretty nice, actually
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Tie between a $10 set of Royals with inverted Kingpins and a $12 set of Krux k4.
Actually- the royals are better.
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Thunder trucks 149mm standards
broke in 2 months, the pivot cup mould snapped off.
paid about 70 AUD which is really cheap for the Aussie price of a truck.
bought off a skateshop and will only try thunders again for shits and giggles.
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Of all the cheap skate products, cheap decks are by far the worst. A while ago in efforts to save money I bought something like a Bullet - at half the regular deck price it was soggy right from the shop, could never pop it right and it started delaminating soon after. I don't know which cheap wood they used to make it, but the wood felt worse than my first complete skateboard from the early 2000s.
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Hubba wheels circa 2008. Fuckers would get the craziest flat spots in one day on any terrain. End of the day I’d literally have pieces missing out of them lmfaoo
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Worst gear definitely the cheap bronsons, g3? Whatever the ones are that were competing with reds. Absolute garbage.
Bought some $10 states and they were some of the best vulcs I ever skated
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I bought some of those unshielded Bronsons when I needed some bearings in the early shutdown stage of the pandemic. I knew better intellectually than to trust a bearing without a shield, but these were literally the *only* bearings in town and I wanted to support my local shop, which I was naively believed might have a bad year due to quarantine.
Complete trash. Lasted a handful of sessions, until I rolled into the dirt and they were basically destroyed permanently. I can't believe that they can charge so much for a product that sucks so comprehensively.
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Skated some of the straye slip on shoes and I really liked them. The suede held up really good and the sole didn't bald out.
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Royals that I got for cheaper when building my complete on ccs.com. I had a sick new deal Ricky Oyola with royals that bent the first week, But I was 13 and it was 2002.
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When I was maybe 14 yrs old Ken from ZT Maximus convinced me to buy a set of Tracker trucks with the plastic parts. They were terrible.
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I remember all those Lakai Selects were ubershit
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Bought some Element thrift wood bearings. The employee told me they were great and I was hyped. They were $10 and at first they were slow and I figured they’d break in. They never did and some kid in school asked for them. They gave out while he bombed a hill.
I bullet trucks are cheap but turn nicely. A friend had a cruiser with a set and they were surprisingly really good.
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I had a pair of Lakai Protos in the white leather with red and black, and they fell apart in several ways that I had never had happen to me before. They were such terrible shoes but I got them for $50cad so I couldn't say no.
1. The Lakai side logos both came unglued from the sides in about two weeks, but they were held on by stitching so those flopped around until I could cut them off.
2. The sole chipped off. It didn't wear down. The individual honeycombs of the sole would come off one by one and I would leave little trails around the skatepark.
3. The lacing leather trim came completely detached from the rest of the shoe from the third eyelet down on my right (goofy) foot.
4. The laces were ridiculously long.
5. Zero shock absorption.
6. Heel loops of course broke.
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I bullet trucks are cheap but turn nicely. A friend had a cruiser with a set and they were surprisingly really good.
I have a set lying around that are 8.5 wide lows and they actually are decent trucks, but not as good as my Aces
Worst gear I’ve ever bought was an Enjoi price point deck. Snapped within 10 minutes of skating on a flat ground hard flip
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I bought some of those unshielded Bronsons when I needed some bearings in the early shutdown stage of the pandemic. I knew better intellectually than to trust a bearing without a shield, but these were literally the *only* bearings in town and I wanted to support my local shop, which I was naively believed might have a bad year due to quarantine.
Complete trash. Lasted a handful of sessions, until I rolled into the dirt and they were basically destroyed permanently. I can't believe that they can charge so much for a product that sucks so comprehensively.
My synopsis of Bronson raws is that they might be pretty good if they had shields. I had the same "I should know better" feeling when I bought them but then I vividly remember going out the first day and being genuinely a little scared by how fast they were. I was thinking maybe the hype and marketing was actually real and was starting to come to terms with the fact that I might have to admit I was wrong about them. Then a week later they were dirty and slow and just have never been the same even after meticulous cleaning. There's just no real way to bring a bearing back after the inner races get damaged, which is the entire point of shields in the first place. Why the fuck not just make that bearing but with a good non contact shield?
I guess if all you skate is clean, pristine concrete parks they might last a little longer and be decent, but literally a week on just normal east coast streets in summer (so not even bad crust or the snow/rain/salt shut we get for half the year) was enough to kill them.
Also "audible speed technology" is the most ridiculous marketing angle I've seen in a while.. As if popping shields and running your bearings dry is some sort of technological marvel that no other bearing can replicate.
I will say that my g3 have been decent enough. They were over lubed out of the box but once they broke in and dried out a bit I found them to be pretty solid.
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This isn't skateboarding related but i bought a Slayer shirt with the pentagram on it and my mother made me throw it away
coffee spitted. future gnar.
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Vans TNT SG's, not to be the guy who blames his gear but i could not fucking kickflip in those shoes. Maybe I just got a bad batch but they felt like fucking cinderblocks, no boardfeel, the outsole didn't really flick as it should, if anything it felt like it just dragged. As much as I tried to give them a shot and break them in, the outsole started coming away in strips/chunks after 2 weeks and they didn't last much longer after that. Most disappointing shoe I've skated.
OJ From Concentrate 101a wheels - I didn't expect much from a pricepoint wheel but they did not fucking slide at all, coupled with the fact NONE of the bearings would seat correctly and instead flopped around loosely in the wheel which gave it fucking diagonal play as seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjxbFrjyuw
Who else ran hubba/enjoi coloured bolts when they were young and ended up with them stripping or seizing? fucking dogshit. Andale Guy Mariano bearings on sale, skated great for about a week until three of them blew out in the same session, even the wax that came with it sucked.
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Vans TNT SG's, not to be the guy who blames his gear but i could not fucking kickflip in those shoes. Maybe I just got a bad batch but they felt like fucking cinderblocks, no boardfeel, the outsole didn't really flick as it should, if anything it felt like it just dragged. As much as I tried to give them a shot and break them in, the outsole started coming away in strips/chunks after 2 weeks and they didn't last much longer after that. Most disappointing shoe I've skated.
I can confirm this 100%
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Lakai Mariano xlk was the worst shoe i ever had. Had bloody bruised heel all the time, zero board feel. The Carroll selects i had before were nice tho
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I really liked the pair of Straye’s I skate.
I have two pairs of Straye and they’re more comfortable than Vans or Nikes. Literally feel broken in out of the box.
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Vox Hewitts. I love Hewitt, but the insoles felt like a no 2 pencil eraser smh just terrible
I had a hand me down ccs/active blank and it took longer to delaminate then the early 00's dlx wood or whatever else I would use, but because I'm low impact skater (read: top rope slappys from and crack nollies) my equiptment lasts for a while
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I bought some of those unshielded Bronsons when I needed some bearings in the early shutdown stage of the pandemic. I knew better intellectually than to trust a bearing without a shield, but these were literally the *only* bearings in town and I wanted to support my local shop, which I was naively believed might have a bad year due to quarantine.
Complete trash. Lasted a handful of sessions, until I rolled into the dirt and they were basically destroyed permanently. I can't believe that they can charge so much for a product that sucks so comprehensively.
There's just no real way to bring a bearing back after the inner races get damaged, which is the entire point of shields in the first place. Why the fuck not just make that bearing but with a good non contact shield?
Exactly. One piece of sand in the bearing and the race is going to be permanently toast. But you hit on it with their "audible" marketing - they sound a certain way, a way that a lot of people associate with "fast", even if it's actually the sound of a bearing getting destroyed.
I suspect that their regular shielded bearings are just fine, but I've got Swiss in both my setups now, so I see no reason to mess with a good thing.
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Had a set of hollow core Rictas when I was a teenager, can't remember if they were called Clouds then or if that's a new name (this was in probably like 03 or 04) and they were the most insanely awful wheels I've ever skated. They eventually collapsed in on themselves.
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Andale Guy Mariano bearings on sale, skated great for about a week until three of them blew out in the same session, even the wax that came with it sucked.
Ayo Andale is horrendous. I’ve had a few pro sets and the Abec 7s and they were all horrendous. Like damn, they rolled shittily and for the price they didn’t make a difference. I will say this every time they come up.
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Had a set of hollow core Rictas when I was a teenager, can't remember if they were called Clouds then or if that's a new name (this was in probably like 03 or 04) and they were the most insanely awful wheels I've ever skated. They eventually collapsed in on themselves.
Ricta Aircores - 4 wheels at the weight of 3!
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The homie set this up at a sesh the other night because I had actually snapped my board so he let me ride his beat deck. And within 2 tries of a frontside flip down a 2 stair clean snapped
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The homie set this up at a sesh the other night because I had actually snapped my board so he let me ride his beat deck. And within 2 tries of a frontside flip down a 2 stair it croaked
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(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=MLPT291DK-1.jpg&nw=500)
The homie set this up at a sesh the other night because I had actually snapped my board so he let me ride his beat deck. And within 2 tries of a frontside flip down a 2 stair clean snapped
Someone on here mentioned that Mini Logo and Powell PP decks are made of Birch, not maple. Will suffice for kids but definitely not on par with maple.
I noticed that Dwindle does the same with their boards. Resin Birch, Resin Hybrid (Maple + Birch), Resin-7.
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Andale Guy Mariano bearings on sale, skated great for about a week until three of them blew out in the same session, even the wax that came with it sucked.
Ayo Andale is horrendous. I’ve had a few pro sets and the Abec 7s and they were all horrendous. Like damn, they rolled shittily and for the price they didn’t make a difference. I will say this every time they come up.
As someone else said I’d rather pack my bearings with dog shit to ever get or buy Cortinas or Andele bearings, I got a set of one and the other from my exwife as she didn’t know any better only they were cheaper than Reds which is bs, had the bearings I mentioned earlier they were trash.
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Andale Guy Mariano bearings on sale, skated great for about a week until three of them blew out in the same session, even the wax that came with it sucked.
Ayo Andale is horrendous. I’ve had a few pro sets and the Abec 7s and they were all horrendous. Like damn, they rolled shittily and for the price they didn’t make a difference. I will say this every time they come up.
I got some Cortinas, they’re not as bad as Andale. Definitely okay. The most expensive Andale bearings probably perform as good as a red. Cortina bearings are somewhere around super reds. They’re just flashy.
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Speaking of bearings, I got some Globe Abec 7s to round out an order and they rushed within a week. Like, I ride them in the drizzle and they rusted and locked. I have them in acetone but I think I’ll just try some Quantums instead. I’m not even digging reds (I have skate Warehouse bearings that perform better than my reds) so may as well switch it up.
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Someone on here mentioned that Mini Logo and Powell PP decks are made of Birch, not maple. Will suffice for kids but definitely not on par with maple.
Powell pricepoint completes are birch. Mini Logo are maple as are the Powell $49 and up decks.
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not the worst but are bummers.
bones big balls. the cages broke on my first set. i eventually got a replacement set. one ollie and i hear a crack. surprisingly the bearings still roll but the rattling noise is annoying af. these are still better then shake just triple ogs
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Anything SHAKE JUNT! bearings Suck! vans shoes arent as grippy as regular pro vans.
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Grind King trucks
FKD bearings
Any recent Toy Machine board