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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: FrozenIndustries on May 01, 2021, 06:47:42 PM
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So you can stop posting about them in the Ace thread. Thanks.
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my bad
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
Thanks for the info man
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SIZE GUIDE:
- 4.25 (6.5" Axle) - Suitable for 6.5 – 7.25 inch decks
- 5.0 (7.6" Axle) - Suitable for 7.5 – 7.875 inch decks
- 5.25 (8.0" Axle) - Suitable for 7.875 – 8.25 inch decks
- 5.5 (8.375" Axle) - Suitable for 8.25 – 8.6 inch decks
- 6.0 (8.75" Axle) - Suitable for 8.6 - 9.0 inch decks
Got this from Parade
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Anyone know weight (raws and hollows) and how much it pushes out WB?
Edit for spelling (damn autocorrect)*
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Anyone know weight (rates and hollows) and how much it pushes out WB?
wb is very close to ace!
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How is the pinch and grind on these? Also does anybody know the exact height.
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For some reason I get the feeling Film are like the French version of Royals. Budget to mid level trucks with short wheelbase and performance that no one has sung the praises of but no one who rides them seems to mind. I’d still be tempted to try them if I could get my hands on them in the US though
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They do have a short wheelbase but please never compare them to Royals ever again. I have a pair and think they are awesome. Great quality, grind really well and turn great.
I happened to luck out to get a pair in the US since I am friends with a mega gear nerd. I think anyone that likes Indys or Aces would really like them.
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Quoting myself from the other topic:
Been on them since February 2019, here are some measurements for 5.5"/145 model, which I have waiting to replace current ones:
- weight 361g
- height 53mm
- hanger width 143mm
- axle width 210mm
- WB change +2 7/8" (73mm)
Wanted to try something new, and price was right for us Europeans. Had bit problems breaking the bushings in, but after few sessions all was good for me. Turn is good, not as fast as Aces, but adequate. For an old guy doing slappies, works well at least. Baseplate sticks out enough to clear tail/noseslides with 53mm wheels. Easier to wheelbite than Aces, but hasn't really been a problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3rzja7l.jpg)
Still riding them, still happy. Did replace pivot cups with Riptide though, Indy ones fit perfectly.
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They do have a short wheelbase but please never compare them to Royals ever again. I have a pair and think they are awesome. Great quality, grind really well and turn great.
I happened to luck out to get a pair in the US since I am friends with a mega gear nerd. I think anyone that likes Indys or Aces would really like them.
This is probably a really hard question to answer so if it is dont worry ha
Where do you see them performing between ace and venture ?
Are rotational trucks easier on them cos of the small wheelbase?
I want to try them now lol
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They do have a short wheelbase but please never compare them to Royals ever again. I have a pair and think they are awesome. Great quality, grind really well and turn great.
I happened to luck out to get a pair in the US since I am friends with a mega gear nerd. I think anyone that likes Indys or Aces would really like them.
This is probably a really hard question to answer so if it is dont worry ha
Where do you see them performing between ace and venture ?
Are rotational trucks easier on them cos of the small wheelbase?
I want to try them now lol
I would say they are much closer to indy and ace than venture. I can switch between films and Indy no problem. If I get any more specific than that, I’d just be making shit up, haha. I’m sure there are nerds that can answer that question in much greater detail.
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For people in the USA who want to try them:
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r)
https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r (https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r)
https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film (https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film)
Never bought from Eurotings, but I cannot speak highly enough of Kinetic and Library.
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Been on them since February 2019, here are some measurements for 5.5"/145 model, which I have waiting to replace current ones:
- weight 361g
- height 53mm
- hanger width 143mm
- axle width 210mm
- WB change +2 7/8" (73mm)
Wanted to try something new, and price was right for us Europeans. Had bit problems breaking the bushings in, but after few sessions all was good for me. Turn is good, not as fast as Aces, but adequate. For an old guy doing slappies, works well at least. Baseplate sticks out enough to clear tail/noseslides with 53mm wheels. Easier to wheelbite than Aces, but hasn't really been a problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3rzja7l.jpg)
Still riding them, still happy. Did replace pivot cups with Riptide though, Indy ones fit perfectly.
Pretty excited to try these now. I feel like this brand has alot of potential, if they got some more big names on their team I feel like people would stop writting them off as cheap royal-like trucks. That being said I have yet to try them but I doubt theyll be bad.
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my bad
yeah me too
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
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For people in the USA who want to try them:
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r)
https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r (https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r)
https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film (https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film)
Never bought from Eurotings, but I cannot speak highly enough of Kinetic and Library.
Library is one of the best shops going and Kinetic is awesome too. Ive ordered from ET a couple times and it's been a mixed bag. First I ordered hollows and they sent me standards, so instead of dealing with the hassle of shipping them back for an exchange I just ordered a set of standards and had them ship me hollows, which they did and hooked me up with some "sorry about that" stickers and bushings which was rad. The last time I ordered some hard bushings and after like 2-3 weeks of them not showing up or giving me an order update I emailed them. They said the bushings were out of stock but they were hoping to get some in soon (when I asked what soon meant they said in a month or two) ... Which would have been fine if theyd told me that, but instead they just took my money and were apparently not planning to ship anything for several months or informing me that was the plan.
I asked for a refund and hit Jeremie Daclin up on IG, he got back to me right away and sent me a pack of hard bushings, and even with international shipping it wasn't really much more than it would have been from ET. Daclin is a good dude.
So I'd say if you're out west ET might be cheaper shipping wise, but if you're east or Mid-Atlantic then I'd definitely use library and kin/noc
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
That's my bad man. Trust his measurements. Everything I'd read about them (and Daclin's interview) talked about using old Indy sizing. The measurements on this site back up the 8.25." Scroll down for the measurements and the fine print. Looks like their measurements for the 6.0's are 8.75." They mention updated baseplates (no more 6 hole pattern), so maybe they did a revision with the sizes?
https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-new-film-trucks/
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I very much like the idea of riding Films. I very much ride 9"ish boards and thusly do not think its feasible.
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I very much like the idea of riding Films. I very much ride 9"ish boards and thusly do not think its feasible.
I ride 6.0s on 9" inch-is boards and it's fine
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
That's my bad man. Trust his measurements. Everything I'd read about them (and Daclin's interview) talked about using old Indy sizing. The measurements on this site back up the 8.25." Scroll down for the measurements and the fine print. Looks like their measurements for the 6.0's are 8.75." They mention updated baseplates (no more 6 hole pattern), so maybe they did a revision with the sizes?
https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-new-film-trucks/
Offset is Tony Gale who is a British freestyle pro. Really good guy and a big Ole gear nerd. I've had some long exchanges about woodshops and trucks with him and he helped me track down a deck that I'd been looking for for a while. I would definitely consider him to be an expert, especially in regards to UK and euro companies, and he's a good dude to hit up if you have any questions about this kind of stuff.
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anyone got 5.25s they can measure the height of?
this page
https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-new-film-trucks/
says they're 55mm tall while the 5.5s are 54mm tall
doesn't seem right
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They do have a short wheelbase but please never compare them to Royals ever again. I have a pair and think they are awesome. Great quality, grind really well and turn great.
I happened to luck out to get a pair in the US since I am friends with a handsome, brilliant, big dick mega-stud. I think anyone that likes Indys or Aces would really like them.
This is probably a really hard question to answer so if it is dont worry ha
Where do you see them performing between ace and venture ?
Are rotational trucks easier on them cos of the small wheelbase?
I want to try them now lol
Definitely closer to Ace. I'd describe them is kind of a hybrid of Ace and thunder. They've got that kind of deep and satisfying turn like Ace but with the snappy nearly instant response of a thunder. This is kind of a weird one and I'm not sure how many people have ever tried these but the overall feel is quite similar to Theeve TI-hangers but obviously much heavier.
I wouldn't say the short wb necessarily makes things easier but if you're coming from a similarly compact wb truck like Ace or theeve or even indy then it shouldn't be much of an adjustment. Everyone should be aware that there is a difference between the hollow and standard WB though, at least in the 5.5. I can't remember the exact numbers but the hollows are wider by a decent margin. It's really weird because visually they look identical and it's not a "cast vs forged" thing. I think I even swapped hangers and re-measured and came to the conclusion that it was something with the baseplates. There's an old thread on here discussing it where I posted pics and measurements if anyone cares enough to dig it up.
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
That's my bad man. Trust his measurements. Everything I'd read about them (and Daclin's interview) talked about using old Indy sizing. The measurements on this site back up the 8.25." Scroll down for the measurements and the fine print. Looks like their measurements for the 6.0's are 8.75." They mention updated baseplates (no more 6 hole pattern), so maybe they did a revision with the sizes?
https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-new-film-trucks/
Its alright man im only ordering a pair this weekend so didnt purchase any by mistake lol, think im gonna go with the 5.5s because I didnt mind how ace 44 classics felt on 8.5.
I very much like the idea of riding Films. I very much ride 9"ish boards and thusly do not think its feasible.
If youre riding 9.0 popsicles then yeah prob not but if your skating more shaped stuff then I almost feel like a 8.75 truck would work better.
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They do have a short wheelbase but please never compare them to Royals ever again. I have a pair and think they are awesome. Great quality, grind really well and turn great.
I happened to luck out to get a pair in the US since I am friends with a handsome, brilliant, big dick mega-stud. I think anyone that likes Indys or Aces would really like them.
This is probably a really hard question to answer so if it is dont worry ha
Where do you see them performing between ace and venture ?
Are rotational trucks easier on them cos of the small wheelbase?
I want to try them now lol
Definitely closer to Ace. I'd describe them is kind of a hybrid of Ace and thunder. They've got that kind of deep and satisfying turn like Ace but with the snappy nearly instant response of a thunder. This is kind of a weird one and I'm not sure how many people have ever tried these but the overall feel is quite similar to Theeve TI-hangers but obviously much heavier.
I wouldn't say the short wb necessarily makes things easier but if you're coming from a similarly compact wb truck like Ace or theeve or even indy then it shouldn't be much of an adjustment. Everyone should be aware that there is a difference between the hollow and standard WB though, at least in the 5.5. I can't remember the exact numbers but the hollows are wider by a decent margin. It's really weird because visually they look identical and it's not a "cast vs forged" thing. I think I even swapped hangers and re-measured and came to the conclusion that it was something with the baseplates. There's an old thread on here discussing it where I posted pics and measurements if anyone cares enough to dig it up.
What size board(s) did you skate the 5.5s with? Just curious
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
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I just grabbed a pair of Film 5.25s as I've wanted to try a set for a while.
I'm very impressed with the build quality and little design details on first unboxing, pretty great for a pair of sub £40 trucks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFJKy4m9/trucks3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2VPrmqf/trucks2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmN50Dp3/trucks1.jpg)
Report back how you like em. I tried then with bones bushings and did not like them that much, too high for me and the trucks got stuck, I assume it was the pivot cup.
Pivot cups sticking were the issue for me. I use shaved down thunder too bushings (stock bottoms) and threw some industrial grease in the pivot cups and I love them now.
Pivot cups prob here too. ACE riptide pivot cups are the hack. Love the FILMS. So good. The 6.0 are closer to 8.625, FYI.
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Ill ask the same question I asked in the ace thread but can someone please tell me the hanger + axle widths of film 5.5s and 6.0s? I skate 8.5s mostly so not sure what size I should go with.
Old Indy sizing, so 5.5 would be a 8.38 axle, the 6.0 around 8.68. Hanger widths are stamped on the bottom, 145 and 155. So on a 8.5, 5.5's would magic carpet a smidge, and the axles on the 6.0's would hotdog a bit.
5.5 is 8.25", maybe a thread over. These are the standards, didn't do the hollows but should be the same since I think it's the same hanger. This is with both the ruler and other axle pushed up against a table leg to make sure they're flush.
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https://i.imgur.com/xoBBzkO.jpg
Okay so the 5.5s are 100% 8.25? So does that mean the 6.0s are 8.75 or are those still 8.68?
x-post from another thread:
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I just grabbed a pair of Film 5.25s as I've wanted to try a set for a while.
I'm very impressed with the build quality and little design details on first unboxing, pretty great for a pair of sub £40 trucks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFJKy4m9/trucks3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2VPrmqf/trucks2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmN50Dp3/trucks1.jpg)
Report back how you like em. I tried then with bones bushings and did not like them that much, too high for me and the trucks got stuck, I assume it was the pivot cup.
Pivot cups sticking were the issue for me. I use shaved down thunder too bushings (stock bottoms) and threw some industrial grease in the pivot cups and I love them now.
Pivot cups prob here too. ACE riptide pivot cups are the hack. Love the FILMS. So good. The 6.0 are closer to 8.625, FYI.
Im assuming they did tweak the axle sizes when they updated the baseplates like palelight said because the newer baseplates also have a different logo/font aswell as the absence of the other holes. I attached two pics of random trucks but you can see the difference in baseplates.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZNTXmDG/old.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZNTXmDG) (https://i.ibb.co/mTf9wWh/new.png) (https://ibb.co/mTf9wWh)
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For people in the USA who want to try them:
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r)
https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r (https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r)
https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film (https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film)
Never bought from Eurotings, but I cannot speak highly enough of Kinetic and Library.
Not really a technical question but the Andale collab comes with a single bearing per truck? (looking at the eurotings listing)
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(https://abload.de/thumb/img_20210505_165412fujka.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210505_165412fujka.jpg)
Film 5.5
Mine are on an Real 8.25 Full SE
My measuretape is in cm.
Wheelbase on an 14.25 Deck I measure 43,5 and 43,7 ( left and right side, middle axle to middle axle, new but original bushings..
Height is arround 53,5 on both sides. Axle nut turned down one thread.
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For people in the USA who want to try them:
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r)
https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r (https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r)
https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film (https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film)
Never bought from Eurotings, but I cannot speak highly enough of Kinetic and Library.
Not really a technical question but the Andale collab comes with a single bearing per truck? (looking at the eurotings listing)
Yeah I noticed that, super weird
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For people in the USA who want to try them:
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=2&_sid=53b5ad48a&_ss=r)
https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r (https://libraryskateshop.com/products/film-trucks-hollow-5-5?_pos=1&_sid=5ab2d40cf&_ss=r)
https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film (https://eurotings.com/collections/all-film)
Never bought from Eurotings, but I cannot speak highly enough of Kinetic and Library.
Not really a technical question but the Andale collab comes with a single bearing per truck? (looking at the eurotings listing)
Yeah I noticed that, super weird
Well that’s just less bearings you’ll have to throw away. Pretty cool of them.
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Can someone post pics and measurements of the new 4-hole baseplate version?
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Can someone post pics and measurements of the new 4-hole baseplate version?
Here's a few pics of the 4 hole baseplate 6.0 raws. A little bowl riding and one miniramp session, so far so good.
Take the measurements with a grain of salt, but I found an axle width of 220.5mm (8.68"), a hanger width of 153mm (6.02"), and the wheelbase was 79.5mm (3.13")
(https://i.ibb.co/xMMDrkS/IMG-5622.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xMMDrkS)(https://i.ibb.co/DgnQJ8t/IMG-5623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DgnQJ8t)(https://i.ibb.co/L50PNyG/IMG-5624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L50PNyG)
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Can someone post pics and measurements of the new 4-hole baseplate version?
Take the measurements with a grain of salt, but I found an axle width of 220.5mm (8.68"), a hanger width of 153mm (6.02"), and the wheelbase was 79.5mm (3.13")
Thanks! There is difference between old raws and hollows at least, could be the new 4-hole baseplate changed wheelbase again.
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so it changed because the 6 holes were sitting much closer, in between ace and indy. 3.13 make them goes up to venture/thunder territories that's a big change. they feel the same in turning ?
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so it changed because the 6 holes were sitting much closer, in between ace and indy. 3.13 make them goes up to venture/thunder territories that's a big change. they feel the same in turning ?
At 79.5mm (3.13") they're really close to my Indy 159 standards (78.5mm) and Hollow Forged 149s(78.75mm). Now I'm likely the worst person to ask for comparisons because my basis for comparison is small, and I'm really quite a poor skater. That said they feel at least comparable to the Indies in turn, and maybe a hair more stable?
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Can someone post pics and measurements of the new 4-hole baseplate version?
Here's a few pics of the 4 hole baseplate 6.0 raws. A little bowl riding and one miniramp session, so far so good.
Take the measurements with a grain of salt, but I found an axle width of 220.5mm (8.68"), a hanger width of 153mm (6.02"), and the wheelbase was 79.5mm (3.13")
(https://i.ibb.co/xMMDrkS/IMG-5622.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xMMDrkS)(https://i.ibb.co/DgnQJ8t/IMG-5623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DgnQJ8t)(https://i.ibb.co/L50PNyG/IMG-5624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L50PNyG)
155 trucks have a hanger width of 153 mm as the 1mm washer on each side adds up to 155. My 160 Films are also 158
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I bought film 5.25 raw. I skated them for a week but didn't get used to it. I have been skating venture hollows 5.2 hi on 14 wb decks for some years and when i put the films, first the turnings felt super sharp and the overall feeling is super loose for me. I read that the bushings need some time to break in so i skated for a week and now tightend a bit (almost a tread from the kingpin) but still haven't tried it. I am wondering if they are gonna feel more stable on >14 wb deck (may be 14.25, coz i am a short guy) and with a harder bushings, may be a barrel bottom. As for now i messured the axel to axel wb and it was around 17 " (43.2 cm) and the venture set up was 17.35 (44 cm), the decks are different and the wheels too, but the pop angle of the film set up is a bit smaller. It is super for manuals, 360 flip, fs flip... but my kick flips go rocket. it is kind of a light feeling, but when i turn and use the steeper nose for tail it feels better. Any suggestions? wider wb deck ot steeper kick may be better for these trucks?
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https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB)
Are there actually 52.5mm high film trucks? They seem to be 54/55mm everywhere else
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https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB)
Are there actually 52.5mm high film trucks? They seem to be 54/55mm everywhere else
As far as I know they're 52.5mm. Both mine sets have been.
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I bought film 5.25 raw. I skated them for a week but didn't get used to it. I have been skating venture hollows 5.2 hi on 14 wb decks for some years and when i put the films, first the turnings felt super sharp and the overall feeling is super loose for me. I read that the bushings need some time to break in so i skated for a week and now tightend a bit (almost a tread from the kingpin) but still haven't tried it. I am wondering if they are gonna feel more stable on >14 wb deck (may be 14.25, coz i am a short guy) and with a harder bushings, may be a barrel bottom. As for now i messured the axel to axel wb and it was around 17 " (43.2 cm) and the venture set up was 17.35 (44 cm), the decks are different and the wheels too, but the pop angle of the film set up is a bit smaller. It is super for manuals, 360 flip, fs flip... but my kick flips go rocket. it is kind of a light feeling, but when i turn and use the steeper nose for tail it feels better. Any suggestions? wider wb deck ot steeper kick may be better for these trucks?
Definitely squirrelly on short wheelbases and more steady on bigger ones. That said, I ride films on 14” ish wb and I feel like kickflips just require a higher up foot placement to work - like up towards the front bolts more.
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Couldn't find info on-line, thereby asking here:
Nuts and bolts on Film trucks - metric or imperial?
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https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/film-daclin-curb-club-5-5-achse-silver-purple-8-125-2er-pack_p133694?eav=793&cPath=44&info=p133694_.html&brand_id=606&cic=GB)
Are there actually 52.5mm high film trucks? They seem to be 54/55mm everywhere else
As far as I know they're 52.5mm. Both mine sets have been.
I believe what they did with the new baseplate is put a 2mm longer kingpin in and a taller boardside bushing. That pushed the wheelbase out and made the truck higher.
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Couldn't find info on-line, thereby asking here:
Nuts and bolts on Film trucks - metric or imperial?
My regular skatetool fits. All the same as other trucks. So
Its imperial I guess.
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I believe what they did with the new baseplate is put a 2mm longer kingpin in and a taller boardside bushing. That pushed the wheelbase out and made the truck higher.
Oh, this is new information. If it's true, time to look at something else. 55mm is just too high for my old feet.
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I believe what they did with the new baseplate is put a 2mm longer kingpin in and a taller boardside bushing. That pushed the wheelbase out and made the truck higher.
Oh, this is new information. If it's true, time to look at something else. 55mm is just too high for my old feet.
This, or you could get smaller wheels or run the bushing without the boardside washer like bones hardcore bushings
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too bad there are no Film trucks larger than the 6.0. That's too much magic carpet feeling for 9"
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Anywhere to get these in the US? I'd love to try a set but I can't find any for my 8.25 deck.
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Anywhere to get these in the US? I'd love to try a set but I can't find any for my 8.25 deck.
Looks like Eastern Skateboard Supply is carrying them now so you should be able to order them from local shops online.
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Anywhere to get these in the US? I'd love to try a set but I can't find any for my 8.25 deck.
Just bought a set from Eurotings.com
Probably overpriced but they arrived pretty fast
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Good looking out dudes. I'm grabbing a set.
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Kinetic/Nocturnal also stock them, though they are a bit low RN.
https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=1&_sid=7a6e9de6d&_ss=r (https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/film-hollow-kingpin-trucks?_pos=1&_sid=7a6e9de6d&_ss=r)
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I finally got a set of Films after many years, I got the 5.5 (8.375 axle) and I'm absolutely in love with them.
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Does anyone have recommendations for bushings other than stock that can be used in film trucks? I am finding it difficult to find hard duro Film bushings in the US. Thanks.
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
7-8
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
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Interesting, i might try them then cause I really like Ace but the wheelbase is way too short for my liking on some boards.
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
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Interesting, i might try them then cause I really like Ace but the wheelbase is way too short for my liking on some boards.
Keep us posted if you do-
I love Aces but not crazy about the hanger grind feel and shape.
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
7-8
Interesting, i might try them then cause I really like Ace but the wheelbase is way too short for my liking on some boards.
Keep us posted if you do-
I love Aces but not crazy about the hanger grind feel and shape.
An 8 fo sure.
@RottenToTheCore try Tensor, Film bushings are interlocking ones.
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Can anyone comment on their turn? If a venture is a 1 and ace is a 10, where do Film trucks land on the scale?
7-8
Interesting, i might try them then cause I really like Ace but the wheelbase is way too short for my liking on some boards.
wheelbase is very close to ace too though … I can switch my setups mid session and not get ghost pop
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Anyone in Canada wanting to try Films, these are shipping from Alberta.... (they're even on sale)
https://www.sourceboards.com/search?type=product&q=film+trucks&options%5Bprefix%5D=last
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Has anyone experienced their Films clicking really had after break in? Seems like the bottom washer is shifting around when I lean into a deep turn or pinch. Any known fixes for that? Other than the clicking I’ve really been enjoying them
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Has anyone experienced their Films clicking really had after break in? Seems like the bottom washer is shifting around when I lean into a deep turn or pinch. Any known fixes for that? Other than the clicking I’ve really been enjoying them
loose kingpin
knock them out, apply epoxy, put them back in
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Report back on Films. I've been skating a set for a few months now and I really like them. I'd love to set up an inverted kingpin to try on these but I can't find the Film ones in stock in the US.
Does anyone know if the Krux dlk ones (or any others) will fit?
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Has anyone experienced their Films clicking really had after break in? Seems like the bottom washer is shifting around when I lean into a deep turn or pinch. Any known fixes for that? Other than the clicking I’ve really been enjoying them
loose kingpin
knock them out, apply epoxy, put them back in
has the same problem, seemed to be the king pin that was making the noise!
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Report back on Films. I've been skating a set for a few months now and I really like them. I'd love to set up an inverted kingpin to try on these but I can't find the Film ones in stock in the US.
Does anyone know if the Krux dlk ones (or any others) will fit?
Krux ones defs work, I have some in my 6.0s
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Report back on Films. I've been skating a set for a few months now and I really like them. I'd love to set up an inverted kingpin to try on these but I can't find the Film ones in stock in the US.
Does anyone know if the Krux dlk ones (or any others) will fit?
Krux ones defs work, I have some in my 6.0s
Wonderful. Picking up a set today. Thanks bud!
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For some reason I get the feeling Film are like the French version of Royals. Budget to mid level trucks with short wheelbase and performance that no one has sung the praises of but no one who rides them seems to mind. I’d still be tempted to try them if I could get my hands on them in the US though
Good luck lol, even here it’s a chore to get some. My friend ended up driving all the way to fucking Lyon to buy a box and resell some to people at my local lol. Shame since they’re genuinely great trucks
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For some reason I get the feeling Film are like the French version of Royals. Budget to mid level trucks with short wheelbase and performance that no one has sung the praises of but no one who rides them seems to mind. I’d still be tempted to try them if I could get my hands on them in the US though
Good luck lol, even here it’s a chore to get some. My friend ended up driving all the way to fucking Lyon to buy a box and resell some to people at my local lol. Shame since they’re genuinely great trucks
I actually ended up getting a set online from Faith Skate Supply (Birmingham, AL). They skate real well but I’m experiencing what I believe to be QC issues with the bottom washers shifting around when maxing out the turn. I disassembled them expecting to find the kingpins loose but they’re in nice and tight as they should be. I got some epoxy so I used it on the where the bottom washers and baseplates meet, hopefully that resolves the clicking issue. So weird though, I’ve never had a truck do this before. My best guess is they made the holes in the washers too big
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Mine also click. It is annoyung sound but do you think it is a propblem? I've checked the kingpin but it sits snug on its place without moving. I havent check the washer, though
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Mine also click. It is annoyung sound but do you think it is a propblem? I've checked the kingpin but it sits snug on its place without moving. I havent check the washer, though
Epoxying the bottom washers to the baseplates fixed mine.
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I just saw on Instagram that they have a website up again and ship worldwide
filmtrucks.fr (http://filmtrucks.fr)
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Just checking on the WB extension (is that what you call it?) on the 4 hole Film 5.5s. The truck wheelbase thread has them at 3" but seen 3.18" as well. What's the general consensus? Anyone running the 5.5s on an 8.5 deck?
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
WAIT? There are 6.5? Where?
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
WAIT? There are 6.5? Where?
I should just tagged @FrontsideFrank but here they are. I guess they're available on the film website.
Well, look what the cat just dragged in.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZG5FwfV/20220125-191023.jpg)https://i.postimg.cc/DZG5FwfV/20220125-191023.jpg
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
WAIT? There are 6.5? Where?
I should just tagged @FrontsideFrank but here they are. I guess they're available on the film website.
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Well, look what the cat just dragged in.
Oh cool. Just checked the website. Shipping is 22 Euro. I guess, I'll just wait until they hit the stores here. Thanks for the heads-up
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I was surprised how well film did at the local shop i work at, we are in Canada so i wasn't expecting a relatively low-key euro brand to sell as fast as they did to random kids that never heard of it yet.
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
Axle length is just a hair over 9 inches (9 and a 1/16th). Hanger width is 163 mm. Axle height averages out to around 54 mm to center of axle when checked with a tape measure.
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Anybody have the axle and hangar measurements for the new 6.5s?
Axle length is just a hair over 9 inches (9 and a 1/16th). Hanger width is 163 mm. Axle height averages out to around 54 mm to center of axle when checked with a tape measure.
Thank you, king.
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I think Macho said it before, but from some angles these trucks look like old Indy’s. And that has me curious.
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Does anybody know what replacement kingpin you can get in the US would fit film trucks? I broke mine yesterday.
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Does anybody know what replacement kingpin you can get in the US would fit film trucks? I broke mine yesterday.
Looking at the baseplate above, won't a hexhead bolt fit? Grade 8
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Krux inverted fits it fine (after you hammer the original one out)
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For those wondering, after some conscientious measurements on a fresh set of 5.25 (4 holes baseplate) I am able to affirm that they are 55mm high.
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Yup, mine are also 55 mm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ9dGzXss7l/
I recently saw on their insta that a new mid truck is coming, but there wasnt any height mention and when i asked they probably got me worng cause they said they are gonna be in 135,145,155,165 (which is the width and not the height), but a guy commented that film had a mid truck before, and i also have seen a description in a couple of shops 2-3 years ago about film being 52 or 52,5 *can't remember.
the 55 are fine, but my short legs prefer something lower than this and today i found a great deal for the new royals which are 52 high. I am a fan of Daclin and the films but the pals here made some great comments about the new royals and was tempted a lot.
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I'm French, so for my fresh twin tip set-up I bought a set of Film trucks quite evidently (French brand, good feedbacks, and much better pricing than anything else here), but the height measurements we can find on the web are quite inconsistant and confusing, so I thought it could be helpful for someone else to leave the information here.
Will maybe be a bit high with fresh 54mm wheels because I come from Ventures Low with worned to 50mm wheels, but well, I have long legs, so...
Mid trucks incoming is a good news!
Yeah, these new Royals seem pretty good!
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Where did you find the deal on Royals?
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Now there is 20% discount for all the hard goods on the titus website. https://www.titus-shop.com/en/
This is in europe and although a lot of people don't like titus for multiple reasons i don't mind shopping there, coz they have some stuff that i cannot find in my country (bulgaria). For example now i also ordered another loophole wheels which are my new favs and they are still hard to find in europe. They were on sale + the aditional 20% discount so i just couldnt resist and decided to stock some stuff for the near future, coz everything is getting more expensive these days.
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Now there is 20% discount for all the hard goods on the titus website. https://www.titus-shop.com/en/
This is in europe and although a lot of people don't like titus for multiple reasons i don't mind shopping there, coz they have some stuff that i cannot find in my country (bulgaria). For example now i also ordered another loophole wheels which are my new favs and they are still hard to find in europe. They were on sale + the aditional 20% discount so i just couldnt resist and decided to stock some stuff for the near future, coz everything is getting more expensive these days.
Just got a set of the new Royals with delivery for 56. Thank you
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I rode my new set of 5 25 for about 2 hours now, already tighten them 2 full turns each, and will probably tight more.
From how many turns should I consider some harder bushings?
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I rode my new set of 5 25 for about 2 hours now, already tighten them 2 full turns each, and will probably tight more.
From how many turns should I consider some harder bushings?
2!?
Or you better get used to it and embrace the turn. :D
Btw, I ordered some Film hard bushings for my "biggerTrannySetup" and these were not harder than the standard ones at all.
Swapped the Baseplate side ones for Bones Hard now. Feels ok.
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Coming from venture to film, the first session totally shocked me. I have never skated that loose trucks before. I skated a couple of days like this coz read somewhere that the bushings need some time to break in, and then tightened a bit, only one tread showing. I get used to the turn and like it. During the winter the bushing tighened and i actually feel more stable and they still turn quite good. I have never tried harder bushings, but if it is too loose for you, try something or just tighten them more.
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I rode my new set of 5 25 for about 2 hours now, already tighten them 2 full turns each, and will probably tight more.
From how many turns should I consider some harder bushings?
2!?
Or you better get used to it and embrace the turn. :D
Btw, I ordered some Film hard bushings for my "biggerTrannySetup" and these were not harder than the standard ones at all.
Swapped the Baseplate side ones for Bones Hard now. Feels ok.
Coming from venture to film, the first session totally shocked me. I have never skated that loose trucks before. I skated a couple of days like this coz read somewhere that the bushings need some time to break in, and then tightened a bit, only one tread showing. I get used to the turn and like it. During the winter the bushing tighened and i actually feel more stable and they still turn quite good. I have never tried harder bushings, but if it is too loose for you, try something or just tighten them more.
Before tightening them 2 turns I mostly embraced wheelbites and speed wobbles at a surprisingly low speed! Seriously, how can you skate like that?? And Daewon, Ishod...you're crazy. :D
It's better now, but coming from Ventures too, yeah, it's an other world. I wanted to try something different and I appreciate the benefits of looser trucks, but I'll maybe need more stability.
Noted for the 'hard' bushings that aren't harder and the Bones ones.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
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Does anyone know the differences from the 6 hole to the current version? Height, weight, wb etc., anything you might know. I think they got higher?
I REALLY like my 6 hole 5.25 hollow kp, good job Jeremie.
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Does anyone know the differences from the 6 hole to the current version? Height, weight, wb etc., anything you might know. I think they got higher?
I REALLY like my 6 hole 5.25 hollow kp, good job Jeremie.
I measured my 4 holes 5.25 at 55mm high, +3" wb and 8" axles, didn't weighted them.
I can't say more!
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There's not a lot in it, I went from six hole to four hole and didn't notice any difference. The WB is a tiny bit longer on the four hole plate. They're about 3 grams heavier which I assume is the weight of two holes. Didn't notice any height difference when I put them side by side, but my old ones were pretty destroyed by that point.
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There's not a lot in it, I went from six hole to four hole and didn't notice any difference. The WB is a tiny bit longer on the four hole plate. They're about 3 grams heavier which I assume is the weight of two holes. Didn't notice any height difference when I put them side by side, but my old ones were pretty destroyed by that point.
FWIW there was a slight difference in the wb of early models between the hollows and standards. The hollows were a little longer. I believe it was down to the plates but I forget how extensively I tested it. If I get bored one of these days I'll pull them out and put the stock bushings back in and measure again.
Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
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Finally copped some film trucks. Do the bushings firm up or loosen up after breaking them in? Coming from ace, it feels that film trucks turn like an oil tanker.
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Finally copped some film trucks. Do the bushings firm up or loosen up after breaking them in? Coming from ace, it feels that film trucks turn like an oil tanker.
Is it really cold where you live? They firm up in the cold but are heavenly when it's hot out
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Finally copped some film trucks. Do the bushings firm up or loosen up after breaking them in? Coming from ace, it feels that film trucks turn like an oil tanker.
I think it depends on the climate you skating in .
I skated mine the first time last end of summer and they were pretty damn loose at first. Skated them for about a month. I put them aside for a while and skated them again in fall. But then they became more unresponsive and slow turning. In the winter the bushing froze up and the turn was a mess so I put some bones hards in. With the standart bottom washer and the bones flat top washer. I liked them like this. Especially in cold weather.
In summer the turn was ok after 2 weeks. They firmed up a little bit .
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Finally copped some film trucks. Do the bushings firm up or loosen up after breaking them in? Coming from ace, it feels that film trucks turn like an oil tanker.
Is it really cold where you live? They firm up in the cold but are heavenly when it's hot out
I think it depends on the climate you skating in .
I skated mine the first time last end of summer and they were pretty damn loose at first. Skated them for about a month. I put them aside for a while and skated them again in fall. But then they became more unresponsive and slow turning. In the winter the bushing froze up and the turn was a mess so I put some bones hards in. With the standart bottom washer and the bones flat top washer. I liked them like this. Especially in cold weather.
In summer the turn was ok after 2 weeks. They firmed up a little bit .
Thanks guys.
it's about 60 degrees fahrenheit (15 ° C) here. At the moment the feel really firm. I can't really turn, when i push. I usually ride Ace with a Bones medium as a top bushing. I'll give them another session or two. At the moment i'm rather underwhelmed
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Have bones mediums in mine now (and new pivot cups) Defs a lot more responsive than when they turn into frozen ice blocks over the winter
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Have bones mediums in mine now (and new pivot cups) Defs a lot more responsive than when they turn into frozen ice blocks over the winter
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
Just compared 6-hole films with the new 4-hole baseplate ones. The wheelbase is exactly the same 2.875 inch.
The height is increased by 2-3mm
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
Just compared 6-hole films with the new 4-hole baseplate ones. The wheelbase is exactly the same 2.875 inch.
The height is increased by 2-3mm
Mmm...
Measured on fresh trucks & flush nuts? Both side of the axles?
I found +3" and 55mm on my 4 holes when they where new.
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
Just compared 6-hole films with the new 4-hole baseplate ones. The wheelbase is exactly the same 2.875 inch.
The height is increased by 2-3mm
Mmm...
Measured on fresh trucks & flush nuts? Both side of the axles?
I found +3" and 55mm on my 4 holes when they where new.
Just measured again 55-56mm height, 2.87" wb
They're brand new
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
Just compared 6-hole films with the new 4-hole baseplate ones. The wheelbase is exactly the same 2.875 inch.
The height is increased by 2-3mm
Mmm...
Measured on fresh trucks & flush nuts? Both side of the axles?
I found +3" and 55mm on my 4 holes when they where new.
Just measured again 55-56mm height, 2.87" wb
They're brand new
OK, seems strange, but I maybe missed something.
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Have bones mediums in mine now (and new pivot cups) Defs a lot more responsive than when they turn into frozen ice blocks over the winter
Good to hear that the Bones bushings fit
I'm also quite interested, maybe on the hard ones. Do Bones bushings affect the geometry? Are bottom bushings (board side) the same height? Does the lack of interlocking on Bones affect something?
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Just gave them a test ride, and i'm happy they don't have that "lag" in turning the old ones sometimes had! Just a really progressive turn from mild to really sharp..
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@Solex i couldn’t notice whether or not bones affected the geometry, I needed a quick fix for the winter freeze up and this was it. I didn’t keep the bottom washer on for what it’s worth but had to for the top because I run a krux inverted kingpin.
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Have bones mediums in mine now (and new pivot cups) Defs a lot more responsive than when they turn into frozen ice blocks over the winter
Good to hear that the Bones bushings fit
I'm also quite interested, maybe on the hard ones. Do Bones bushings affect the geometry? Are bottom bushings (board side) the same height? Does the lack of interlocking on Bones affect something?
i only changed the bottom bushing for bones medium (and left the washer off). Don't know about the geometry either, but turning is quick with a tendency towards surfy.
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Have bones mediums in mine now (and new pivot cups) Defs a lot more responsive than when they turn into frozen ice blocks over the winter
Good to hear that the Bones bushings fit
I'm also quite interested, maybe on the hard ones. Do Bones bushings affect the geometry? Are bottom bushings (board side) the same height? Does the lack of interlocking on Bones affect something?
i only changed the bottom bushing for bones medium (and left the washer off). Don't know about the geometry either, but turning is quick with a tendency towards surfy.
OK. :)
Thanks for the feedback!
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Currently got some 8.75 films on my cruiser, turning is amazing.
Fucked around in a park a bit today, the grind on concrete was great, but I could not grind on angle iron at all, especially crooked grinds stuck immediately. Other trucks have no problem at all on this angle iron.
Is that the case in general? Metal coping seemed to work just fine.
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Because I’m a complete idiot with my gear purchasing I’ve suddenly decided that I want some Film 160 raws. Has anyone skated those and Indy 159s? How do they compare? Pros? Cons?
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Currently got some 8.75 films on my cruiser, turning is amazing.
Fucked around in a park a bit today, the grind on concrete was great, but I could not grind on angle iron at all, especially crooked grinds stuck immediately. Other trucks have no problem at all on this angle iron.
Is that the case in general? Metal coping seemed to work just fine.
Strange, did you grind any angle coping ledges or something? do these trucks not grind on metal?
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Because I’m a complete idiot with my gear purchasing I’ve suddenly decided that I want some Film 160 raws. Has anyone skated those and Indy 159s? How do they compare? Pros? Cons?
I have, they're good, turn feels a little quicker initially becuase of the double cone bushings but other than that it's pretty similar. They're a bit lighter and a toucher higher but overall they were an easy transistion.
Disclaimer - I was on old Stage 8 Indys so they might not be as similar as the Stage 11 or whatever they're on now.
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Currently got some 8.75 films on my cruiser, turning is amazing.
Fucked around in a park a bit today, the grind on concrete was great, but I could not grind on angle iron at all, especially crooked grinds stuck immediately. Other trucks have no problem at all on this angle iron.
Is that the case in general? Metal coping seemed to work just fine.
Cruiser means soft wheels ?
If that's the case, no surprise your crooked are off
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Height was the same, about 53mm to the axle. I don't have a 6 hole set to compare with.
Did you actually find 53mm in height? Pretty sure my 4 holes are 55mm.
Realized I didn't answer this. Yes, around 53mm. These are the first run hollows and raws, so I dont know whats changed and don't care enough to get another pair.
I just want to be clear here though, you guys are measuring to the middle of the axle right? That's how truck "heights" are typically listed so if you're measuring to the top (or to the hanger) you're going to be slightly over. I know lots of people who swear their wheelbase is wrong because they're measuring from the ends of the holes rather than the middle and there's also the whole with/without concave issue with decks so I'm going to assume that's at least part of the confusion.
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Film makes IKPs
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl0ng4oscuU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Film makes IKPs
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl0ng4oscuU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Didn't they always?
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Yeah, they did.
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My bad. I guess that instagram post was for people like me who just didn't know.
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Dragging this up to see if anyone has any new good aftermarket bushing combos. I’ve got a set of 6.0 I’m about to set up but I prefer just under jiggle loose.
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Dragging this up to see if anyone has any new good aftermarket bushing combos. I’ve got a set of 6.0 I’m about to set up but I prefer just under jiggle loose.
I run them with 98a Shorty's bushings without a bottom washer, shit works really well and are loose even though the bushings duro is rock hard.
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Dragging this up to see if anyone has any new good aftermarket bushing combos. I’ve got a set of 6.0 I’m about to set up but I prefer just under jiggle loose.
I run them with 98a Shorty's bushings without a bottom washer, shit works really well and are loose even though the bushings duro is rock hard.
Going to try - thanks!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CqIPC1TMKgs/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CqIPC1TMKgs/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Damn that quality hight.
The film standard bushings are really great though
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didnt tensor do this bushing system when they first came out?
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this design works great and the bushings are very good, but when the temperature is low they become very stiff.
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this design works great and the bushings are very good, but when the temperature is low they become very stiff.
this! It’s like you have wood for bushings, very dangerous if you run out the door on a cold morning and jump on your board …
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Idk if I’m going crazy but my board seems significantly quieter with thunders than it did with my ventures. I feel like a ninja.
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Dragging this up to see if anyone has any new good aftermarket bushing combos. I’ve got a set of 6.0 I’m about to set up but I prefer just under jiggle loose.
Honestly as long as it's warm out the film bushings are some of the best I've tried. The nipple works and this is one of those things like aces where years later I still haven't found anything that feels quite like the stock ones. Actually quite the opposite, I run film bushings in other trucks.
If you absolutely must tinker they sell aftermarkets. They're sold out on the eurotings site right now (they only restock a few times a year it seems) but hop on insta and DM Jeremie like a man and he can probably hook it up if you don't mind waiting a few weeks for shipping from Europe. I had to do that mid pandemic and he was super cool about it and even hooked me up with all kinds of film stickers and wax and rolling papers and shit. I would absolutely not defile my films with doh-dohs, they're a responsive truck and those are spongey as hell.
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didnt tensor do this bushing system when they first came out?
Yes but if I'm remembering correctly the bottom bushing also had a notch in it so the two bushing would kind of connect. Film originally were trucks for dwindle completes so wouldn't be surprised if they were originally tensor bushings and they just kept the design.
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Anyone skating the inverted kingpin versions? Any issues? I assume that all inverted kingpin trucks have issues with self loosening, but would love to be wrong about that.
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Anyone skating the inverted kingpin versions? Any issues? I assume that all inverted kingpin trucks have issues with self loosening, but would love to be wrong about that.
I've ridden them, they don't self loosen as far as I could tell, but after a while the kingpin hole will oval out unless you epoxy the nut in place.
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I just stuck krux inverted kingpins in mine, but I’ve retired them recently… I don’t hate the turn/ feel/ pop but I had to replace the bushings (with bones ones) because I HATE how they freeze up over winter
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I just stuck krux inverted kingpins in mine, but I’ve retired them recently… I don’t hate the turn/ feel/ pop but I had to replace the bushings (with bones ones) because I HATE how they freeze up over winter
I agree the film bushings basically turned to rocks during a east coast winter
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Anyone know the height of the standard 5.5 film trucks? Everywhere i look is saying something different. Some say 55, some say 54, some say 53 lol. I just got my first set of 5.5s that my friend gave me to try. Got them on an 8.25 isle with 55mm Conical fulls. Can't wait to try them out and see how they are. Will report back after riding them!
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Anyone know the height of the standard 5.5 film trucks? Everywhere i look is saying something different. Some say 55, some say 54, some say 53 lol. I just got my first set of 5.5s that my friend gave me to try. Got them on an 8.25 isle with 55mm Conical fulls. Can't wait to try them out and see how they are. Will report back after riding them!
55= 4-hole pattern
53= 6-hole pattern
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Anyone know the height of the standard 5.5 film trucks? Everywhere i look is saying something different. Some say 55, some say 54, some say 53 lol. I just got my first set of 5.5s that my friend gave me to try. Got them on an 8.25 isle with 55mm Conical fulls. Can't wait to try them out and see how they are. Will report back after riding them!
55= 4-hole pattern
53= 6-hole pattern
Thanks!
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came here to say these trucks are really fucking good. I've heard great things, but didn't think i would like them this much. first sesh on them and im in love. hoping they don't tighten up too much once the bushings break in. they turn amazing, just as good as ace imo. The turn is very quick and deep. i definitely see myself riding more pairs of these in the future.
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Anyone know the height of the standard 5.5 film trucks? Everywhere i look is saying something different. Some say 55, some say 54, some say 53 lol. I just got my first set of 5.5s that my friend gave me to try. Got them on an 8.25 isle with 55mm Conical fulls. Can't wait to try them out and see how they are. Will report back after riding them!
55= 4-hole pattern
53= 6-hole pattern
Huh, didn't know that, this might explain why I like my first set (6-hole) better than my second (4-hole).
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1 month of skating the 5.5s and they have only got better. The turn on these is so good. Trying to find a couple more pairs to have on ice to keep skating them, but they are hard to find in U.S. from what I've seen browsing online. Went on the film site to order a pair and the shipping from Europe to U.S. is more than the actual trucks. It was trying to charge me around 110 euros for the trucks shipped....😳