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Title: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on May 05, 2021, 11:15:07 PM
Much of what’s flying around YouTube etc as trick tips doesn’t really seem to help much - pros who can just do tricks naturally doing the trick 10 times over from various angles, and the explanation being something like “To learn how to frontside flip, learn how to fs 180 and then how to kickflip. Then, put them together, like this! (Pro does trick)”.

However, I’m also sure that most people on here have had a few experiences where some advice really unlocked a trick for them. For me, some older dude telling me that you have to keep your shoulders parallel to the board in order to ollie straight, do kickflips etc was basically the start of actually becoming able to do tricks and progress. Also, kicking the front foot down towards the ground rather than forward on heelflips also made a huge difference.

What tip has actually helped you to learn a trick?
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: GinosGroceries on May 05, 2021, 11:57:16 PM
I always appreciated RadRat’s approach. He breaks it down and explains what helped him with the trick and what he realized he was doing wrong.

Also I like watching super slowmo tricks to see exactly where on the board someone’s foot is when flicking and their shoulder position.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Dwyck on May 05, 2021, 11:58:26 PM
silhouette in skate questions
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: CaptainBushwacker on May 06, 2021, 12:22:25 AM
I like skatehacks channel for some tricks, he breaks it down nicely.

I've been trying backtails this spring and this video is definitely an eyeopener concerning all the things I'm doing wrong and what I should be doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgkofdnwv8E
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Dwyck on May 06, 2021, 12:26:02 AM
i learned back wallrides from a haley isaak video
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on May 06, 2021, 12:26:56 AM
The way I learned hardflips- some older guy at a skatepark explained it like “do a fs flip but at the last second don’t turn your shoulders.” At the time I couldn’t even fs 180, let alone fs flip. But that seemed to click something in my brain and I had the motion from there on out. (Didn’t learn fs 180s until like 3 years after this, fs flips 4 years after)
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Sila on May 06, 2021, 12:47:54 AM
The discussions here have helped me out more than anything. Even if it isn't necessarily the actual tips themselves, the discussions will get me thinking about a trick and i'll start looking at them from different perspectives and that stimulates my curiosity enough to get out and to work on something.
When it comes to YouTube, I thought Skate Hacks was pretty good.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: knex on May 06, 2021, 12:55:49 AM
The only trick tip that actually helped me was for impossibles. I seem to recall it might have been a clip with Jimmy Carlin of all people (imagine that).

Not really on topic but I have always struggled with blunt to fakies. Periodically I've really wanted to get them and I remember a mildly amusing pre-youtube trick tip video where some random dude said the only real tip is to not be a fucking pussy - you have to take a few slams to get it. Still rings true to this day and after 20 odd years skateboarding I've come to terms with not ever getting blunt fakies on lock.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: chrisskates808 on May 06, 2021, 01:33:02 AM
I always appreciated RadRat’s approach. He breaks it down and explains what helped him with the trick and what he realized he was doing wrong.

Also I like watching super slowmo tricks to see exactly where on the board someone’s foot is when flicking and their shoulder position.

Wasn’t his old channel aronl?  Could be mistaken with someone else
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: chrisskates808 on May 06, 2021, 01:33:41 AM
There was a slappy k grind tutorial which I was quite surprised helped. Wasn’t from a pro skater. Just a regular person uploading it.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Paul Cicero on May 06, 2021, 03:05:43 AM
The only trick tip that actually helped me was for impossibles. I seem to recall it might have been a clip with Jimmy Carlin of all people (imagine that).

Not really on topic but I have always struggled with blunt to fakies. Periodically I've really wanted to get them and I remember a mildly amusing pre-youtube trick tip video where some random dude said the only real tip is to not be a fucking pussy - you have to take a few slams to get it. Still rings true to this day and after 20 odd years skateboarding I've come to terms with not ever getting blunt fakies on lock.

Ive accepted my pivot out. Acceptance is the first step.  ;D
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: non-playable character on May 06, 2021, 03:54:42 AM
ben raemers’ back disaster trick tip video. learned them the day after and it’s been a transition staple for me ever since
http://youtu.be/VQdQm5ASXXI
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: johnes on May 06, 2021, 03:56:53 AM
The tip that helped me with front shuvs is that you pop straight down, you don’t push the tail side ways when you pop. I always had that shitty front shuv in games of skate because I would try to push the tail to the side when I popped.
Now I can do front shuvs as easy as pop shuvs.

Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: burm on May 06, 2021, 03:57:58 AM
This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Easy Slider on May 06, 2021, 04:33:08 AM
This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
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On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.

On topic: I always could bs noseslide but never came out nicely to regular so I watched a vid by Ben Degros and at the end he said it was easier to get out to fakie. This had never crossed my mind but it worked a treat for me. I realise it is frowned upon but I prefer a nice bs noseslide to fakie to a horrible one to regular.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Lucky_Basek on May 06, 2021, 04:56:51 AM
There was a slappy k grind tutorial which I was quite surprised helped. Wasn’t from a pro skater. Just a regular person uploading it.

Respect to the trick. Even more respect for using the name K grind...which I still do
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Biggiemouths on May 06, 2021, 06:32:10 AM
ACID DOES IT BETTER THAN MOST YOUTUBERS GIVE IT A TRY!

THE MICRODOSING SHIT LIKE RY RAYS REALLY WORK WETHER SAM HITZ LIKES IT OR NOT!
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 06, 2021, 06:34:03 AM
I could already do them, but there's an old Mike Mo video where he talks about popping kickflips closer to the pocket of the tail than the center and I feel like my kickflips drastically improved when I started practicing that.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Circaskater420 on May 06, 2021, 06:34:26 AM
I know this is lame but when my homie told me that ollie height is determined by how much you can suck your legs up it was like an epiphany.  I’ve been able to ollie up and over just about anything since
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: GlenSuggittsflexfit on May 06, 2021, 06:39:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMNcRQSM9rY
This guy has some good ones.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Rubbrick on May 06, 2021, 06:48:28 AM
I wasn’t very good at slappy feebles & would sometimes go over the top. My buddy told me to put the front foot back and angle it towards the nose a bit and also to kind of wrap the board around the face of the curb, instead of it being so flat. Helped tremendously and now I can hold them for awhile and do tricks out of them
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Salmon Agah on May 06, 2021, 07:15:45 AM
I was never able to crack the code, until I watched a trick tip on blunt to fakies with Danny Way and he told me to watch your front foot when you do it instead of your back foot. I realized until this point I was staring my back foot down because I was afraid of coming in to fakie, which was making my shoulders slightly rotate my whole body, which made it feel impossible since I wasn't coming in straight.

Blunt to fakies are still a scary trick that I no longer do, but thanks to Danny for allowing me to for a little while.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Stretch on May 06, 2021, 08:09:50 AM
I learned late sjuvits by playing EA skate, ollie and then nollie sjuvit in the air.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: GardenSkater77 on May 06, 2021, 08:13:16 AM
Stevie told me to bend my knees and it’s been all gravy ever since...
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: rocklobster on May 06, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
I could already do them, but there's an old Mike Mo video where he talks about popping kickflips closer to the pocket of the tail than the center and I feel like my kickflips drastically improved when I started practicing that.

Link? My kickflips have been becoming worse, I'm blaming my shoes going from vulc to cupsole, but I'm swapping shoes soon so I wont have that excuse much longer.

@silhouette - dude post a wall of text but his trick tips are so good, expanded my BS and flip trick game (marginally) thanks to his advice. @tzhangdox delivers the goods too.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: burm on May 06, 2021, 08:56:40 AM
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This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
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On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.


Can’t recall which page exactly but I read through all of them and there were a lot of good tips all around. Like thinking about swapping your feet front to back and vice versa when doing fs180s
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: cant kickflip but can tre on May 06, 2021, 09:33:04 AM
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This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
[close]
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On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.

On topic: I always could bs noseslide but never came out nicely to regular so I watched a vid by Ben Degros and at the end he said it was easier to get out to fakie. This had never crossed my mind but it worked a treat for me. I realise it is frowned upon but I prefer a nice bs noseslide to fakie to a horrible one to regular.

One thing that helped me learning back 180s was to lean over the front foot. It helps to get the full rotation. Even if you don't fully turn 180, the weight over the front foot helps you slide the rest of it
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Easy Slider on May 06, 2021, 09:38:40 AM
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This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
[close]
[close]

On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.

On topic: I always could bs noseslide but never came out nicely to regular so I watched a vid by Ben Degros and at the end he said it was easier to get out to fakie. This had never crossed my mind but it worked a treat for me. I realise it is frowned upon but I prefer a nice bs noseslide to fakie to a horrible one to regular.
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One thing that helped me learning back 180s was to lean over the front foot. It helps to get the full rotation. Even if you don't fully turn 180, the weight over the front foot helps you slide the rest of it

Cheers, I‘ll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Xen on May 06, 2021, 11:28:08 AM
Sucks that it's on the berries but the gum/cigarette methods help me get the scoop right for 360 flips.
https://youtu.be/6YlQAFip5mc?t=37

Another tip that got me closer was that back foot scoop direction should be more of a behind you forward motion (as if you were trying to push your back lag towards the front of your board but keeping it behind your front leg (hard to explain and  I cant find the vid but this one is saying the same thing:

https://youtu.be/pT6n82iLeeg?t=32

My tip for impossibles:

Visualize how a bicycle crank works (facing the crank and using your hand to rotate it). Now pretend you are grabbing a pedal from the 3 O'clock position and bring it up to 12 O'clock really fast. 5:30 is where you ollie and 630 is where you push the back forward and start to bring it up.

Ollie (we're not doing bitch 360 shuvs here) now you push down and forward just slightly then complete the crank motion.

Thing is, it's not a fast trick when you first learn it...it's very slow do to the wrap motion and the wrap doesn't work like a tre flip, you have to make it wrap but making your back foot moved down, forward and up...you've all done the motion of you done them sitting down popping the tail and fucking around.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: SatanicPanic on May 06, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
When I was learning BS flips my friend saw me and shouted “kick straight out!” That was good advice, trying to wrap them doesn’t work.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: rocklobster on May 06, 2021, 07:27:15 PM
Sucks that it's on the berries but the gum/cigarette methods help me get the scoop right for 360 flips.
https://youtu.be/6YlQAFip5mc?t=37

Another tip that got me closer was that back foot scoop direction should be more of a behind you forward motion (as if you were trying to push your back lag towards the front of your board but keeping it behind your front leg (hard to explain and  I cant find the vid but this one is saying the same thing:

https://youtu.be/pT6n82iLeeg?t=32

My tip for impossibles:

Visualize how a bicycle crank works (facing the crank and using your hand to rotate it). Now pretend you are grabbing a pedal from the 3 O'clock position and bring it up to 12 O'clock really fast. 5:30 is where you ollie and 630 is where you push the back forward and start to bring it up.

Ollie (we're not doing bitch 360 shuvs here) now you push down and forward just slightly then complete the crank motion.

Thing is, it's not a fast trick when you first learn it...it's very slow do to the wrap motion and the wrap doesn't work like a tre flip, you have to make it wrap but making your back foot moved down, forward and up...you've all done the motion of you done them sitting down popping the tail and fucking around.

What does my front foot do during this entire time? Like the bicycle crank visual you mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSa1TlAxtkM
Mike Mo kickflip video for those who were looking.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: botefdunn on May 06, 2021, 07:32:49 PM
on the backside flip, bring your front shoulder to your back wheels.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on May 06, 2021, 11:32:40 PM
Ethan Fowler explained 360 flips and I listened

http://vimeo.com/33267849

http://vimeo.com/33295366
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: GinosGroceries on May 07, 2021, 12:09:28 AM
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I always appreciated RadRat’s approach. He breaks it down and explains what helped him with the trick and what he realized he was doing wrong.

Also I like watching super slowmo tricks to see exactly where on the board someone’s foot is when flicking and their shoulder position.
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Wasn’t his old channel aronl?  Could be mistaken with someone else

Yep that is him
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: TheLurper on May 07, 2021, 12:38:21 AM
Dirty Brett is a man with sound advice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2joB2tgydk
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: moneen on May 07, 2021, 01:00:34 AM
not an actual trick tip but i learned how to front shuv much better from watching chris cole; bringing the front knee up instead of out made it click.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: GlenSuggittsflexfit on May 07, 2021, 05:57:56 AM
Dirty Brett is a man with sound advice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2joB2tgydk
I was not expecting him to spit on the coping spread the spit around with his tongue. He lives up to the mantra.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Craig Lutzka on May 07, 2021, 07:09:57 AM
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This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
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On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.

On topic: I always could bs noseslide but never came out nicely to regular so I watched a vid by Ben Degros and at the end he said it was easier to get out to fakie. This had never crossed my mind but it worked a treat for me. I realise it is frowned upon but I prefer a nice bs noseslide to fakie to a horrible one to regular.
Don’t open your shoulders on back 5050, keep your front shoulder completely parallel with whatever you’re going to grind.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Craig Lutzka on May 07, 2021, 07:23:08 AM
Dirty Brett is a man with sound advice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2joB2tgydk
For coming in on 5-0 Fakie or pivot Fakie- it’s heel to toes to heel. Sit on your heel while grinding or stalling and when your ready to go in quickly lean on to your toes then back to your heel to level out. I always think of it like you’re curling your toes.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: gaunting on May 07, 2021, 07:56:26 AM
only trick tip I ever learned a trick from. learned them the next day after watching this.

https://youtu.be/_jQxn8BubmI
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 07, 2021, 08:27:32 AM
When I was learning BS flips my friend saw me and shouted “kick straight out!” That was good advice, trying to wrap them doesn’t work.
That’s exactly how I do them fakie
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: metsuri on May 07, 2021, 09:36:12 AM
I was never able to crack the code, until I watched a trick tip on blunt to fakies with Danny Way and he told me to watch your front foot when you do it instead of your back foot. I realized until this point I was staring my back foot down because I was afraid of coming in to fakie, which was making my shoulders slightly rotate my whole body, which made it feel impossible since I wasn't coming in straight.

Blunt to fakies are still a scary trick that I no longer do, but thanks to Danny for allowing me to for a little while.

This makes sense. Where you look and the position of your head is key to a lot of tricks and this gets overlooked most of the time in trick tips.

There was an interesting discussion in Jamie Thomas's Stop and Chat where he told how Chris Cole taught him front crooks and apparently the key is to have your head directly above your front truck when you grind. I can't front crook so I don't know if that works. He also said that Cole is very good at taking tricks apart and pick out what's important for learning them. A lot of people can't do that although they may be great skaters.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Easy Slider on May 07, 2021, 12:18:55 PM
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This thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96459.0

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This is the greatest thread of all time. Already learned back 180s and back 50-50s and cleaned up my front shuvs.

Still need to work on those flip tricks though
[close]
[close]

On which page are back 180s and back 50/50s discussed? I need help, my backside game is a joke.

On topic: I always could bs noseslide but never came out nicely to regular so I watched a vid by Ben Degros and at the end he said it was easier to get out to fakie. This had never crossed my mind but it worked a treat for me. I realise it is frowned upon but I prefer a nice bs noseslide to fakie to a horrible one to regular.
[close]
Don’t open your shoulders on back 5050, keep your front shoulder completely parallel with whatever you’re going to grind.

Cheers brah I‘ll try.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Vitriol on May 07, 2021, 12:20:31 PM
Front rocks : a dude told me to peep that back heel.
It works.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on May 07, 2021, 12:42:58 PM
silhouette in skate questions

This is true. @silhouette if you're reading, you're a seer. Your tip that when learning flip tricks it's more important to get both feet on the board even if it's on the graphic, instead of flipping it fully because that comes with time, is great advice.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: jaysouthbay on May 07, 2021, 12:48:48 PM
bs 180s - keep your eyes locked on your back foot the whole time to get the full rotation and it instantly clicked

front shuvs - pop almost straight down, don't scoop

if anyone can share insight on kickflips (something that hasnt been repeated in a youtube tutorial) id be forever grateful
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Seadramon on May 07, 2021, 12:56:20 PM
My best skate friend has a way of explaining tricks that clicks with me big time.

When I was learning 50/50's - look ahead of where your board is. Lock in every time for me.

For 5-0's - lift you front knee up.

For 360 flips - your front foot is just a guide. Don't flick but instead hold it still and let the board spin around it.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: chris. on May 07, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
Someone here saying to slappy with both feet over your bolts blew my mind a couple years ago. I tried it and locked in instantly the next day. It ran so counter to what I thought the trick was in my head.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Xen on May 07, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
I was told for smiths, feebles, front boards/rocks: to over exaggerate them (think deep dips and swag on those front rocks) pretend you are and you will.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: banksandledges on May 07, 2021, 06:34:53 PM
3 simple ones for tricks that took me a minute to figure out

Pivot to fakie - Heels to toes. That and bend your knees. So easy after I figured this out.

FS 360 Ollie. - Look through your back armpit area when you rotate. Keeps your head in line w your shoulder and so on down the line. Another easy unlock.

BS Heel flips  - similar to the fs 360, just watch your tail the whole time you do the trick.

Hope some of this helps to anyone who struggles w these
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Logic on May 07, 2021, 08:18:24 PM
The way I got taught back 5-0 to fakies  was by placing my back foot on the pocket of the tail similar to you would for a 360 flip and focusing my weight on pinching down on it so that I actually grinded inside the ramp instead of on top. For going back in if you have trouble committing, try going to rock to fakie a few times (works for learning a lot of lip-tricks too). I personally find it easier to come back in fakie while grinding it as the momentum will help guide you in.

Apart from the that, the best tip for me has seemingly always been someone yelling "just fucking do it".
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: dime a dozen trend skater on May 07, 2021, 10:00:33 PM
I've read a lot of good 360 flip tips (scoop in the direction you are rolling, weight over the back leg, pressure on your big toe etc etc,) on here and they make sense in my head, but my body just doesn't want to do the motions.  :P

The back tail thread has been very helpful, its probably the trick I've progressed the fastest with. Reading that you need to do a solid ollie first then use your hips/front leg to sort of whip the board 90, rather than try to scoop it like you do a back 180 really unlocked them for me. They are still very much a work in progress for me but I think the tips I've read on here have really helped me understand the trick more than others I've tried to learn.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 07, 2021, 10:51:16 PM
only trick tip I ever learned a trick from. learned them the next day after watching this.

https://youtu.be/_jQxn8BubmI
Was just about to post this. Reynolds explains it so well (back foot in that pocket, having your upper/shoulders already turned, etc).
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: rocklobster on May 07, 2021, 11:37:33 PM
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Sucks that it's on the berries but the gum/cigarette methods help me get the scoop right for 360 flips.
https://youtu.be/6YlQAFip5mc?t=37

Another tip that got me closer was that back foot scoop direction should be more of a behind you forward motion (as if you were trying to push your back lag towards the front of your board but keeping it behind your front leg (hard to explain and  I cant find the vid but this one is saying the same thing:

https://youtu.be/pT6n82iLeeg?t=32

My tip for impossibles:

Visualize how a bicycle crank works (facing the crank and using your hand to rotate it). Now pretend you are grabbing a pedal from the 3 O'clock position and bring it up to 12 O'clock really fast. 5:30 is where you ollie and 630 is where you push the back forward and start to bring it up.

Ollie (we're not doing bitch 360 shuvs here) now you push down and forward just slightly then complete the crank motion.

Thing is, it's not a fast trick when you first learn it...it's very slow do to the wrap motion and the wrap doesn't work like a tre flip, you have to make it wrap but making your back foot moved down, forward and up...you've all done the motion of you done them sitting down popping the tail and fucking around.
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What does my front foot do during this entire time? Like the bicycle crank visual you mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSa1TlAxtkM
Mike Mo kickflip video for those who were looking.

Tried this, fixed my kickflips up today. Was hating them over the past few weeks and couldn't get the timing right. Popping closer to the tip helped get the board off the ground instead of me ninja kicking prematurely.

not an actual trick tip but i learned how to front shuv much better from watching chris cole; bringing the front knee up instead of out made it click.

This one helped a lot too, the board rotated under my feet and I didn't have to jump back as much.

I've read a lot of good 360 flip tips (scoop in the direction you are rolling, weight over the back leg, pressure on your big toe etc etc,) on here and they make sense in my head, but my body just doesn't want to do the motions.  :P

The back tail thread has been very helpful, its probably the trick I've progressed the fastest with. Reading that you need to do a solid ollie first then use your hips/front leg to sort of whip the board 90, rather than try to scoop it like you do a back 180 really unlocked them for me. They are still very much a work in progress for me but I think the tips I've read on here have really helped me understand the trick more than others I've tried to learn.

Glad that thread helped you out. I've shared this picture so many times to everyone trying them -
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/a0f79f756839a305edb009ea665a7621/tumblr_nrjdebRP4D1rv4h7no1_500.jpg)

Using the back foot to give a slight nudge after locking in is needed to overcome the inertia of locking in so you can keep sliding forward, really get that baseplate pressed up against the ledge for the controlled slide. Also, rotating / opening up your shoulder after locking in ensures you can keep your forward momentum and prevent just slipping out fakie.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: metsuri on May 07, 2021, 11:39:25 PM
The way I got taught back 5-0 to fakies  was by placing my back foot on the pocket of the tail similar to you would for a 360 flip and focusing my weight on pinching down on it so that I actually grinded inside the ramp instead of on top. For going back in if you have trouble committing, try going to rock to fakie a few times (works for learning a lot of lip-tricks too). I personally find it easier to come back in fakie while grinding it as the momentum will help guide you in.

Apart from the that, the best tip for me has seemingly always been someone yelling "just fucking do it".

Leaning somewhat into the transition instead of being directly on top is key but you must have your weight on your heel, as that heel to toe technique is crucial. You pinch with your heel and the wheel that's under your heel, that part of the truck.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Octobre Rouge. on May 07, 2021, 11:44:23 PM
I'd like to thank Grosso for the  "deck your fucking rock" advice.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Logic on May 08, 2021, 12:11:40 AM
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The way I got taught back 5-0 to fakies  was by placing my back foot on the pocket of the tail similar to you would for a 360 flip and focusing my weight on pinching down on it so that I actually grinded inside the ramp instead of on top. For going back in if you have trouble committing, try going to rock to fakie a few times (works for learning a lot of lip-tricks too). I personally find it easier to come back in fakie while grinding it as the momentum will help guide you in.

Apart from the that, the best tip for me has seemingly always been someone yelling "just fucking do it".
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Leaning somewhat into the transition instead of being directly on top is key but you must have your weight on your heel, as that heel to toe technique is crucial. You pinch with your heel and the wheel that's under your heel, that part of the truck.

Took me longer than it should have to picture that, but right you are.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: metsuri on May 08, 2021, 12:56:23 AM
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The way I got taught back 5-0 to fakies  was by placing my back foot on the pocket of the tail similar to you would for a 360 flip and focusing my weight on pinching down on it so that I actually grinded inside the ramp instead of on top. For going back in if you have trouble committing, try going to rock to fakie a few times (works for learning a lot of lip-tricks too). I personally find it easier to come back in fakie while grinding it as the momentum will help guide you in.

Apart from the that, the best tip for me has seemingly always been someone yelling "just fucking do it".
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Leaning somewhat into the transition instead of being directly on top is key but you must have your weight on your heel, as that heel to toe technique is crucial. You pinch with your heel and the wheel that's under your heel, that part of the truck.
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Took me longer than it should have to picture that, but right you are.

Pivot to fakies, without grinding, I find easier switch, because I'm much more comfortable coming in forward. I can apply that heel to toe with much more confidence on my front foot. When grinding it's easier regular. Go figure...
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Logic on May 08, 2021, 09:12:06 PM
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The way I got taught back 5-0 to fakies  was by placing my back foot on the pocket of the tail similar to you would for a 360 flip and focusing my weight on pinching down on it so that I actually grinded inside the ramp instead of on top. For going back in if you have trouble committing, try going to rock to fakie a few times (works for learning a lot of lip-tricks too). I personally find it easier to come back in fakie while grinding it as the momentum will help guide you in.

Apart from the that, the best tip for me has seemingly always been someone yelling "just fucking do it".
[close]

Leaning somewhat into the transition instead of being directly on top is key but you must have your weight on your heel, as that heel to toe technique is crucial. You pinch with your heel and the wheel that's under your heel, that part of the truck.
[close]

Took me longer than it should have to picture that, but right you are.
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Pivot to fakies, without grinding, I find easier switch, because I'm much more comfortable coming in forward. I can apply that heel to toe with much more confidence on my front foot. When grinding it's easier regular. Go figure...

Took me a while to grind them switch, haven't gotten them to the point where I can come back in while still grinding though.

The truly hard variation are FS 5-0 to fakies, never been shot out of a trick as much as trying them, extremely satisfying to roll away from however.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: decaf on May 09, 2021, 12:19:22 AM
Can’t forget how in depth and precise Jamal Smith’s Tornado Spin trick tip was.

 https://youtu.be/Jj_E5UImoyo (https://youtu.be/Jj_E5UImoyo)
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: TheLurper on May 09, 2021, 01:36:05 AM
Can’t forget how in depth and precise Jamal Smith’s Tornado Spin trick tip was.

 https://youtu.be/Jj_E5UImoyo (https://youtu.be/Jj_E5UImoyo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqygv332H_c
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: sexualhelon on May 09, 2021, 01:39:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jQxn8BubmI

My regular frontside flips still suck but this really helped me with my switch ones.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Joe Davola on May 09, 2021, 04:41:32 AM
https://youtu.be/5ZdsdeY5N40

Not a trick tip but the second angle of Heath’s back lip at 2:46 has helped me realize to keep my damn shoulders straight for fs board/nose and bs lip/tail.
Not that I’ve 100% committed to learning those tricks, but it works until I get distracted and then try something else.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Urtripping on May 09, 2021, 05:24:17 AM
Front rocks : a dude told me to peep that back heel.
It works.

I was told to look over your shoulder like someone is calling your name from behind, but twist your shoulders and hips in the opposite direction. It made no sense until I tried it, but winding up like that makes it so much easier to do the fs kick turn.

I love decking the board as crooked as possible, then whipping that fs kickturn. One of the best feeling transition tricks.
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on May 09, 2021, 06:07:56 AM
Stabilize your head when doing switch kickflips
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: Easy Slider on May 09, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
The Slap slappy thread(s) and clips from users slappying encouraged me to try slappies today and enabled me to learn them immediately (like third try or so). Amazing, I still fail to comprehend why it works but it does. Without this site I would never have got them. Slap rules, and nomen est omen (latin for name checks out).
Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: rocklobster on May 09, 2021, 06:23:43 PM
https://youtu.be/5ZdsdeY5N40

Not a trick tip but the second angle of Heath’s back lip at 2:46 has helped me realize to keep my damn shoulders straight for fs board/nose and bs lip/tail.
Not that I’ve 100% committed to learning those tricks, but it works until I get distracted and then try something else.

Heath, Arto, Fowler & Allie have the best backside lipslides. Keeping the shoulders parallel controls to rotation and continues the forward momentum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dibBsXQBas

Jon Allie's BS Tail at 1:29 taught me what it means to open up your shoulders. The hips twist to guide the deck and prevents over-rotation. So underrated, amazing board control.

Title: Re: Trick tips that actually helped you
Post by: slutbang666 on May 09, 2021, 09:31:31 PM
A friend of mine taught me how to do crooked grinds when we were kids. His top was Go slow and crook until you stop on top of the ledge. This teaches you how to stay over it and not fall out.