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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: lamfordie on June 10, 2021, 10:10:53 AM
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Every time I hear about a skaters hobbies outside of skating its always either art, music, photography and similar stuff like that. Why is it? What is it that draws them to that? What are your hobbies outside of skating that isnt that?
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Maybe because skating can be a form of escape and self-expression, as with art.
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The Wide And Short Skateboard
Whose skateboard is that? I think I know.
Its owner is quite angry though.
He was cross like a dark potato.
I watch him pace. I cry hello.
He gives his skateboard a shake,
And screams I've made a bad mistake.
The only other sound's the break,
Of distant waves and birds awake.
The skateboard is wide, short and deep,
But he has promises to keep,
Tormented with nightmares he never sleeps.
Revenge is a promise a man should keep.
He rises from his cursed bed,
With thoughts of violence in his head,
A flash of rage and he sees red.
Without a pause I turned and fled.
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Would gnar if poss
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Art, like skateboarding, is something that can be done on your own time with no rules, regulations or dependency on other people
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I don’t think I have an answer despite falling into the category.
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fake "skateboarding is art" talk incoming from some very ignorant assholes. lets see here we go:
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Skateboarding is art
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Not sure if it is still the case as much as it used to be.
But I guess skating in in itself creative... So draws creative types.
fake "skateboarding is art" talk incoming from some very ignorant assholes. lets see here we go:
If you don't like skateboarding... Just give up. You seem to nothing positive to say about it.
You can still wear your silly hypebeast clothes with a skateboard.
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Not sure if it is still the case as much as it used to be.
But I guess skating in in itself creative... So draws creative types.
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fake "skateboarding is art" talk incoming from some very ignorant assholes. lets see here we go:
If you don't like skateboarding... Just give up. You seem to nothing positive to say about it.
You can still wear your silly hypebeast clothes with a skateboard.
you dont really read what im saying do you? you have a really really small brain.
skateboarding is art. I like all types of arts. ice skating is art too.
you on the opposite think skateboarding is THEEEE ART form and you give it so many rules that it can't be art anymore.
thats what core skateboarders always do. they hate and make fun of everyone.
that wasn't stylish. that is stupid. that wasn't very polar or quasi from you broooooo.
only because I dont hate supreme like you doesn't make me a supreme head.
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I know lots of skaters that are as un-artsy as it gets. It's just that you only hear about the artsy ones. Nobody talks about NOT being into art.
Example: me. I love skateboarding more than anything else in my life, I'm not into (other?) art. I'm a damn physicist
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Not sure if it is still the case as much as it used to be.
But I guess skating in in itself creative... So draws creative types.
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fake "skateboarding is art" talk incoming from some very ignorant assholes. lets see here we go:
If you don't like skateboarding... Just give up. You seem to nothing positive to say about it.
You can still wear your silly hypebeast clothes with a skateboard.
you dont really read what im saying do you? you have a really really small brain.
skateboarding is art. I like all types of arts. ice skating is art to.
you in opposite think skateboarding is THEEEE ART form and you give it some many rules that it can't be art anymore.
thats what core skateboarders always do. they hate and make fun of everyone.
that wasn't stylish. that is stupid. that wasn't very polar or quasi from you broooooo.
only because I dont hate supreme like you doesn't make me a supreme head.
I read it just fine
I struggle to understand it
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Goddamn, fs180 has perfected the art of ruining threads. You're a master of your craft.
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SKaTeBoaRDiNG_iS_aRT
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I think they're more drawn to the farts.
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Regarding OP’s question…
I wonder: art skate boarders drawn to the arts, or do people of an artistic bent find themselves drawn to skateboarding.
My personal inclination towards art existed long before I had picked up a skateboard.
As a physical klutz, skateboarding was a good fit for me, because falling down is an essential part of the learning process. Therefore, I was able to justify sucking at this activity as part of gaining proficiency.
I didn’t have to wait to be the last person chosen for the “team,” nevermind worrying about letting those “team mates” down.
When I suck, I do so on my own & w/o consequence.
On top of that, the freedom (from rules) in skateboarding is mirrored in artistic creation; something I find liberating in both cases.
No wonder I’ve stuck with it this long.
As an aside, I see @fs180 as an artist, of sorts, here on SLAP, but their chosen medium is contrarian rage & they are a master in its blunt application. Oh, dear FS180, is there anything you won’t disagree with?
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Because you can get gallery representation drawing stick figures
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fake "skateboarding is art" talk incoming from some very ignorant assholes. lets see here we go:
no its not. they are a design collective going with time and grabbing cultural references and ideas from the past and make them new and not one pair of slim fitting jeans.
they will be around a lot longer than some of you guys are hoping for.
would you laugh about how David bowie dressed? would you think he would have made that much of an impact if he was just a regular boring guy with a t-shirt and some jeans? the world view some of you guys have is far to boring for me.
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Both fields have pretty clear ties to alternative cultures. Art is about doing your own thing and expressing yourself, many approach skateboarding that way too. There's definitely the jock mindset/approach to skateboarding as well though, I definitely fall into that category sometimes when my friends and I are pushing eachother in a sesh and trying to amp eachother up, talking shit and what not.
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A true heshlord practices the art of skating, without skating.
Yewwwwwww
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Goddamn, fs180 has perfected the art of ruining threads. You're a master of your craft.
Like watching da Vinci paint, or listening to Mozart compose.
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I know lots of skaters that are as un-artsy as it gets. It's just that you only hear about the artsy ones. Nobody talks about NOT being into art.
Example: me. I love skateboarding more than anything else in my life, I'm not into (other?) art. I'm a damn physicist
same except im not a physicist
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I get bullied mum some skaters are bullying me for having opinions. They dont accept my not so perfect english and want only people to like what they like. i swear its just my phone still being on german auto correct :'(
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people express themselves through art the same way they express themselves through skateboarding and its almost always done through a counter-culture type lens
on the other hand imagine if the norm was for skaters to be obsessed with investment stocks, government jobs and farming
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The unpopular answer but one that touches on some truth is:
1. Art has a low barrier to entry (insert classic’what is art?’ discussion)
2. Skate culture is decidedly not intellectual (it’s changing, but generally the exception is for skaters to have degrees), so skaters that may have otherwise been drawn to some random field or pursuit as a side passion (say computer science or gene-sequencing) lack the exposure or background required, and hence go towards pursuits with lower barriers to entry (see 1).
Of course other externals confound these points specifically (e.g. current math education does a poor job of teaching interesting material, education quality has high variance, different interests yield more social capital).
Also many of skating’s current legends were themselves into art, so the lagged influence among current practitioners is somewhat natural and expected.
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People that are driven by intrinsic motivation will be drawn to both. Figuring out how to play a tune for me is very similar to figuring out a new trick. Both are satisfactory even when I am on my own.
My interests outside of art and skating are: sports (cycling, martial arts, yoga) and growing vegetables.
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fs180 are you Kyle walker
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I think of it as a lifestyle that can be portrayed as an art... or a sport.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CNNk5IQh914/
yes
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CNNk5IQh914/
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this is actually pretty good think about him what you want I like it
if I friend of my did this id be proud of him
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Most people are drawn to art. Even the old weathered conservative heads in my lil farm town love shitty old barnhouse architecture, old signage, antique shopes, the lines of classic cars and a plethora of acoustic stylings, past and present.
There's a guy in my town who makes sculptures out of old rusted farm equipment and scrap salvage. I don't think he's any more eccentric than anyone, definitely could care less about skateboarding. I mean shit, even Adolf had art aspirations. I'm sure alot of people find they have a knack for artistry through skateboarding but I wouldn't look much into more than that. People just dig art. Jerry The King Lawler for example is ridiculously talented and the guy spent his whole life around and culminating a passion for wrastlin. Skateboarding for sure helps culminate a vibe in art but realistically no more more anything else. Inspiration takes on all forms and arts for everyone. Probably pedantic at this point but what even is art, but we've all kinda accepted skateboarding is an art. And if it is than these dudes were already artists to start with.
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No one called the pun out yet? Interesting.
I think it's because art doesn't have easily defined metrics, akin to skateboarding. For every thousand people who hate Dane Vaugn's art, one will like it.
I think the Dunning-Kruger effect is also involved.
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people express themselves through art the same way they express themselves through skateboarding and its almost always done through a counter-culture type lens
on the other hand imagine if the norm was for skaters to be obsessed with investment stocks, government jobs and farming
Hey bro just because I am a teacher who is very into his 403b, Roth 403b, and stash portfolio, does not mean I’m not down with the cause!
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What else am I gonna do with a rolled ankle or nursing an injury?
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No one called the pun out yet? Interesting.
I think it's because art doesn't have easily defined metrics, akin to skateboarding. For every thousand people who hate Dane Vaugn's art, one will like it.
I think the Dunning-Kruger effect is also involved.
Like thousands of people on Instagram like it and 10 people on slap dislike it because they are cunts hating on everything
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Hoopin hoopin
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Art, like skateboarding, is something that can be done on your own time with no rules, regulations or dependency on other people
this
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not trolling but curious what do other athletic types do for hobbies? i seriously have no idea. for most people it seems they are busy with their careers and then their athletic activity is their hobby. maybe skaters have more free time and creative energy.
i'm into mountain biking, hiking, coding, cooking and for the last 20 years i've always had side projects to tinker with which included skate web sites and magazines. i did a print short lived print magazine that had a staff of 11 for the last issue. more recently those hobbies became code related and now i've really gotten into entrepreneurship. i'm guessing entrepreneurship is appealing because it's creative and full of posers with shitty fashion ;D
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(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/art/2019/12/04/TELEMMGLPICT000218060663_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqz0FILhSVaz4BDNEYZVm_84-x2ctul1QvGCaDGreoEMY.jpeg)
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I was an artistic and athletic kid before I even started skateboarding. I drew, played music, and I loved baseball, basketball and tennis. I still draw occasionally, play my bass and go shoot hoops or play tennis but skateboarding is kind of the best of both worlds when it comes to athletics and artistic expression. For other hobbies, I'm a meteorologist so I like forecasting, looking at weather data and I like playing video games. Anything to keep my mind occupied.
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Because they saw mark gonzalez do some art one time
Seeing ads in magazines always made me wanna draw though
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No one called the pun out yet? Interesting.
I think it's because art doesn't have easily defined metrics, akin to skateboarding. For every thousand people who hate Dane Vaugn's art, one will like it.
I think the Dunning-Kruger effect is also involved.
Like thousands of people on Instagram like it and 10 people on slap dislike it because they are cunts hating on everything
I know everyone likes to gang up on you here (especially the ones who pretend to be the most inclusive), but I do wonder why you're so angry all the time.
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We are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you any different.
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Was actually thinking the other day when I would log on and see that massive banned stamp next to FS180’s username.
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dane vaughns painting isnt horrible -looks like a generic coffee shop waller and wouldnt want it but still looks kind of jazzy. or something to that effect. between that and an used bedsheet district 9 prawn graffiti by shawn powers it wouldnt be the latter for false dichotomies sake
Most people are drawn to art. Even the old weathered conservative heads in my lil farm town love shitty old barnhouse architecture, old signage, antique shopes, the lines of classic cars and a plethora of acoustic stylings, past and present.
There's a guy in my town who makes sculptures out of old rusted farm equipment and scrap salvage. I don't think he's any more eccentric than anyone, definitely could care less about skateboarding. I mean shit, even Adolf had art aspirations. I'm sure alot of people find they have a knack for artistry through skateboarding but I wouldn't look much into more than that. People just dig art. Jerry The King Lawler for example is ridiculously talented and the guy spent his whole life around and culminating a passion for wrastlin. Skateboarding for sure helps culminate a vibe in art but realistically no more more anything else. Inspiration takes on all forms and arts for everyone. Probably pedantic at this point but what even is art, but we've all kinda accepted skateboarding is an art. And if it is than these dudes were already artists to start with.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Go8rNhm-uqEn7Bfad7RWzZ1Ibfo=/128x0:914x524/1400x788/filters:focal(128x0:914x524):format(png)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47476240/Screen_Shot_2015-10-20_at_1.28.50_PM.0.0.png)
folk art is corny but kind of cool. id be stoked if my grandparents werent dead and made funny little pieces for their yard. weird homes was a decent show to have running in the background
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bump this cringe for the culture
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In the US anyways, many kids introduction is to one or the other, art or sports that is. As a kid and as someone who has worked in public schools, I've seen very few young folks who are encouraged or even enabled to do both. Sports kids free time is occupies with sports, which in the States, is at least on the surface, valued as far greater than the arts. What programs get cut first? The Arts. Sports rarely lose funding, again because of a perceived social value. I've heard innumerable times just how impossible or hard it is to be an artist or make money as an artist, to go to college for a real degree, etc, but man, I have never heard or heard of a kid being discouraged from chasing a sports dream until they're just a little to old to get scouted or there is a really bad injury.
So, I think traditionally, kids that start skating haven't been the sports folks. There has been a bit more social rejection, isolation, less fitting into the mainstream mold, and not all the time of course, but this sense of even self perceived marginalization can lead to an interest in arts and other solo pursuits.
@Youoverthere is spot on with the skateboarding as art too. Skate->destroy->create
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will answer this as practically as possible;
skateboarding takes a lot of shit to line up for it to work out:
-weather has to be on point
-your setup has to be working (gotta have shoes that arnet completley blown out too)
-have to not be hurt
-get kicked out
-homey cant make it
-gotta be feeling like it
-cant be too tired
-cant be at school / work
so what can you do? play video games, tech deck, snowskate, watch skate videos - can get kinda boring after awhile if that is the only thing you are interested in. playing music is like playing video games to me except in a different universe if that makes any sense. it is also like skateboarding - there is a lot of execution involved (for those who dont know, i was one of the top Street Fighter players in my country for a long time)
i personally have never been drawn much to super artsy stuff, like i dont really fuck with museums too much, but i would definintely check it out if someone asked me. or an art gallery or w/e.
i never was into drawing / painting much, but now i have 2 kids, i am doing it a lot with them. I actually have this boombox graphic that i have been drawing for like years just when bored randomly and its pretty mcuh the only thing i ever draw. but now i really want to put this graphic onto a shirt, so that has my mind going like what else could i do. i want to give some away to my friends / skaters in the area that i am hyped on. woudnt cost me too much to print a bunch of shirts and give a couple away, i think it might stoke someone to get something even though its small i would like that feeling
the other thing i have been doing lately is rub bricking the fuck + spray lacquering crusty ledges.. it is my new favorite thing. i dont really have the means to start doing concrete stuff (yet) but its something i always wanted to do and now im finding out of necessity DIY is where its at and super fun. landing a trick you envisoned on a crust ass spot that YOU BUILT yourself is such an insane feeling.
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Arts and skateboarding are heavily linked. Especially graffiti and skating. Part of it is, I think people who like skating tend to not be into team activities like traditional sports but I'm sure tons of skaters have other hobbies they don't mention. For example, I know Billy Marks and Wade DeSarmo play rec league hockey for example. Rowley tracks/hunts. @DGKALIS and Kerry Getz are big into cars. So, if you look around you see tons of other interests. A bunch of skaters are big basketball or Lakers fans (Koston, @cliff ) Even if they aren't promoted as much.
I also don't think some of the other hobbies people have they don't really want to put out there. I doubt many pros want to say their hobby is playing COD online all day (outside of Mike-Mo) or playing online poker.
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Or your just wanting to sweat and will work like a person from the 1940's
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Damn that dude is shredding. Could see him on A Bathing Ape
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Skateboarding is art
My skateboard is the brush and the streets are my canvas.
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"I'm very athletic, I enjoy the arts"
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Pedro Dolphino on Krooked, confirmed
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I always thought it was cuz if all the weed we smoke
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORz_n0mY77w
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Skateboarding is art
lizard king is an artist? Andy Roy is an artist? Ha! Would we even call them athletes? I was talking to a random on YouTube about this but it was the opposite ie
If skateboarding is a sport, are Chris milic, Pontus, and Ben kadow athletes? Skateboarding is what you choose it to be.
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Art has less maths.
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The unpopular answer but one that touches on some truth is:
1. Art has a low barrier to entry (insert classic’what is art?’ discussion)
2. Skate culture is decidedly not intellectual (it’s changing, but generally the exception is for skaters to have degrees), so skaters that may have otherwise been drawn to some random field or pursuit as a side passion (say computer science or gene-sequencing) lack the exposure or background required, and hence go towards pursuits with lower barriers to entry (see 1).
Of course other externals confound these points specifically (e.g. current math education does a poor job of teaching interesting material, education quality has high variance, different interests yield more social capital).
Also many of skating’s current legends were themselves into art, so the lagged influence among current practitioners is somewhat natural and expected.
What’s your goal with a response like this? You clearly have not understanding of the actual art world and market.
I can’t imagine you’re over 18 with a post like that, so maybe I’m the clown here for responding at all, especially considering your comment that “the arts have a lower barrier to entry” when there’s ample evidence to show that high art and even just selling enough art to support yourself and be seen as respectable prove that’s not true.
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i think he meant low barrier to entry as in anyone can start making art if they feel the creative impulse, no need to load your diaper cause you aren’t gettin gallery shows
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Maybe skaters are drawn to the arts because both things are fun and require patience.
My current hobbies outside of skating are playing pool and working out. I have considered myself a musician before, like in my early to mid 20s but I haven’t considered myself that in a long time. I’m generally pretty bad at art in general.
There have been plenty of years of my life where I had no hobbies outside of skating at all.
If I hadn’t started playing pool and working out regularly over the last couple months, I wouldn’t have any hobby outside of skating.
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skating is a art
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The unpopular answer but one that touches on some truth is:
1. Art has a low barrier to entry (insert classic’what is art?’ discussion)
2. Skate culture is decidedly not intellectual (it’s changing, but generally the exception is for skaters to have degrees), so skaters that may have otherwise been drawn to some random field or pursuit as a side passion (say computer science or gene-sequencing) lack the exposure or background required, and hence go towards pursuits with lower barriers to entry (see 1).
Of course other externals confound these points specifically (e.g. current math education does a poor job of teaching interesting material, education quality has high variance, different interests yield more social capital).
Also many of skating’s current legends were themselves into art, so the lagged influence among current practitioners is somewhat natural and expected.
What’s your goal with a response like this? You clearly have not understanding of the actual art world and market.
I can’t imagine you’re over 18 with a post like that, so maybe I’m the clown here for responding at all, especially considering your comment that “the arts have a lower barrier to entry” when there’s ample evidence to show that high art and even just selling enough art to support yourself and be seen as respectable prove that’s not true.
Doing art for a living and just doing art are two very different things, don't act like you're to dumb to realize that.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CRDVR55jtdP/
Brian Lotti show at Stefan Simchowitz's gallery.
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pool sk8 van gogh on the last page is really embarrassing. its the exact sort of tacky shit vans stores would display unironically too
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I want to know why so many skaters are shitty artists.
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why is the sky blue
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why is the sky blue
Why is water wet? Why did Judas rat to the Romans while Jesus slept?
It's the son, the father, the holy ghost - WU TANG CLAN!
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Why is water wet? Why did Judas rat to the Romans while Jesus slept?
It's the son, the father, the holy ghost - WU TANG CLAN!
i was thinking this as i was typing it hahaha
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we all wanted to be smooth like ruff