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Title: front nose/crooks
Post by: anti-bolts on July 03, 2021, 12:02:28 PM
on front noses i always just either overshoot and do a front board or do a really shitty nose stall which doesnt even lock in right. on front k i can barely get pinch and on the ones that i do usually just turn into a willy and i bail
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: Dwyck on July 04, 2021, 08:47:04 AM
https://youtu.be/QUnMWnz7eGU

I learned front noses by drilling ollie nose stalls and then popping from further back than what feels comfy.

You wanna get the shitty nose stalls where your baseplate/wheels don't touch to slide a little bit, that's a good start. Just get that armpit of nose/truck on the ledge, over and over.

Going to regular, they don't lock in like back noses though, you have to twist your back hip out a bit
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: gin on July 08, 2021, 08:13:07 AM
https://youtu.be/QUnMWnz7eGU

I learned front noses by drilling ollie nose stalls and then popping from further back than what feels comfy.

You wanna get the shitty nose stalls where your baseplate/wheels don't touch to slide a little bit, that's a good start. Just get that armpit of nose/truck on the ledge, over and over.

Going to regular, they don't lock in like back noses though, you have to twist your back hip out a bit

Pretty much exact same way I learned front noseslides. I find I do them to fakie a lot more just because I can sit in them longer that way.
For going back to regular, I'd also suggest looking over your leading shoulder (like for a front board).

For front crooks, I'd suggest a similar approach where you learn how to stall one first.
I learned by going straight at a ledge (perpendicular/orthogonal), and going for a frontside nosepick, then keep tweaking till you get the wheel pinch. Once you comfortably get into that pinch, start changing the angle until you're eventually getting into it pretty much parallel.

To start grinding, it's all in the toes and commitment.
If I get into the pinch but stick, it means I'm not on my front foot toe enough.
If I don't get in (usually go to front nose), I didn't pop over the ledge enough.
I think both Tom Knox and Jamie Thomas have mentioned some extra tips in their nine club interviews. Head over the front foot definitely helps to sit on them. And lots of wax/learning on a skatepark ledge helps a lot. On concrete, you really gotta push and go fast.
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: rocklobster on July 08, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvLAlQZH2jY

BERRICS WARNING
Not sure if they did a full series but Jamie Foy talks about getting his front toe involved in his pinch.

https://youtu.be/5JzE2cJSNzM

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but he did touch on some great points. Ollie high enough so you can plant your truck up and over the ledge - I found this really helpful when I was learning them.

Been working on 1 for the past 5 days on a flatbar, I'll practice them again on a taller ledge tomorrow and get back to the rail soon.
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: matty_c on July 08, 2021, 09:21:35 AM
I haven’t got a bunch of tricks but I got these on ledges and front nose you just wanna boost at it but be like heading into the ledge slightly and the extra angle helps you lock in and sit in, the faster you go the easier it is to sit on it
You will go to fakie every time unless your shoulders are parallel

Front crooks you gotta keep your shoulders parallel with the ledge like fully force it upon yourself and have all your weight on front foot but also lean a bit out and back when it catches on the wheel you get used to it and it’s not too hard to pop out or at least drop out you just push a bit more into the ledge as you lean away just Chinese nollie sort of thing almost

Edit

I mean if you’re going fast enough at the point you push in more it like slows you down a bit it like catches and that’s how you get out of it so it’s chill to come out super early cause you lose hella speed
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: tzhangdox on July 08, 2021, 09:36:16 AM
For front noses, you gotta ollie, shift the weight over the nose, keep it still over the edge of the ledge and swing your back foot around, with the nose as the fulcrum of the rotation and aim the nose onto the ledge. Thats how you prevent it from going into front board. Push the slide with your front toe and lean your front shoulder into the nose of your board thats how you end up sitting in the slide. Don't overrotate, lean towards underrotating your lower body so you don't jam, but maybe turn your upper body a bit more than you think you need if you want to hold the slide for a while. Also make sure you ollie very minimally and get in very gently so you don't stick or jam.

Can't front crook for shit. Can nollie in, and fakie ollie into switch ones just fine. But regular and switch front crooks just don't work at all. I'll be able to hold and pop out fine if I learn how to get into it. I either go into front nose, or nose manual on top of the ledge and eat shit. Doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: front nose/crooks
Post by: danisismami on August 27, 2021, 04:27:36 AM
My fs cooks aren't that bad so i guess i'll add my two cents to this thread.
Used Footstance:
- Front foot right behinde the bolts and toes hanging over.
- Back foot is in regular ollie position. Maybe toes a bit closer to the edge (forward)

inrun: Really close and parallel to the ledge.

When i jump into it i try to keep the board straigth for as long as possible (sometimes i even imagine to kinda pop away from the ledge) and then turn the board into the crooks position.

While in the crooks i try to put the middle of my hip over the front truck and put pressure on the toes of the front foot.

To get out i turn my board (almost in a noseslide) and then turn it back straight in a quick movement