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I started a wrestling thread years ago, it might still exist somewhere on here, but definitely welcome to a new one. WWE is a damn shit show right now.
I could've done without The Fiend, but Bray Wyatt the cult leader from the swamp with Harper and Rowan was bad ass. The firefly funhouse had some great moments too.
Surprisingly, the two things I actually like are fucking Reginald and Baron Corbin.
AEW on the other hand....... so much good going on over there. Jericho and Juventud last night was OK. Judas Effect off the top rope was really nice.
Cody Rhodes got his fucking head kicked off last night and it was great.
Expand QuoteI started a wrestling thread years ago, it might still exist somewhere on here, but definitely welcome to a new one. WWE is a damn shit show right now.
I could've done without The Fiend, but Bray Wyatt the cult leader from the swamp with Harper and Rowan was bad ass. The firefly funhouse had some great moments too.
Surprisingly, the two things I actually like are fucking Reginald and Baron Corbin.
AEW on the other hand....... so much good going on over there. Jericho and Juventud last night was OK. Judas Effect off the top rope was really nice.
Cody Rhodes got his fucking head kicked off last night and it was great.[close]
WWE is a joke nowadays, I just keep up with news and watch the old classics on Peacock and DVDs. I keep up with AEW news as well but where I have no cable (streaming services only) I cant watch weekly unless they have some kind of TNT on demand
Expand QuoteI started a wrestling thread years ago, it might still exist somewhere on here, but definitely welcome to a new one. WWE is a damn shit show right now.
I could've done without The Fiend, but Bray Wyatt the cult leader from the swamp with Harper and Rowan was bad ass. The firefly funhouse had some great moments too.
Surprisingly, the two things I actually like are fucking Reginald and Baron Corbin.
AEW on the other hand....... so much good going on over there. Jericho and Juventud last night was OK. Judas Effect off the top rope was really nice.
Cody Rhodes got his fucking head kicked off last night and it was great.[close]
WWE is a joke nowadays, I just keep up with news and watch the old classics on Peacock and DVDs. I keep up with AEW news as well but where I have no cable (streaming services only) I cant watch weekly unless they have some kind of TNT on demand
I actually just read Bret Hart's book and am more of a fan after doing so. I watch some AEW, NJPW, and check out matches of smaller promotions from around the world. It's only been in the last year that i've started watching again since the mid 00's and i'm loving it.
Like skateboarding, there's just so much stuff to keep up with if you're a die hard fan. I'm appreciating it much more as an adult. What a unique, hilarious, and beautiful art form.
I watched the latest Dynamite last night and that Cody promo was fuckin weird, like most of them. I don't get how much is a character (and if so what that character is meant to be exactly), or whether he just really thinks he's that much of a big deal. It's odd.
Cody Rhodes gives me Steven Segal vibes.
Very masturbatory.
The pop for CM Punk tonight was probably the craziest pop I've ever seen in all my years watching wrestling.
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I’m still buzzing from it
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I thought the rumble sucked this year. But better news, Brian Kendrick’s wwe contract is over and he’ll be wrestling mox tomorrow on dynamite!
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Never mind
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They did kind of tease Jeff on the last episode of BTE. Also Shane McMahon is apparently gone from the wwe.
This is the second album I ever bought
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And I went to the Rodman Vs Karl Malone match and that's all I've got
Oh! And I still sing a song from GLOW about eating raw meat and from M.O.M. the first rap song in wrestling
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sick thread. havent watched anything "new" since like 2002 or 2003, but i was obsessed as a kid (just turned 35). i used to have all the wrestling figures and the ring and loved watch from like 93-2000 or so? grew up with 2 brothers and i cant believe we didnt kill each other emulating wrestling moves.
these days:
1. peacock - watching all kinds of old documentaries. nWo, bret hart, shawn michaels, undertaker, etc. Saturday and Sunday morning, i like to find an old PPV. right now i'm on a royal rumble kick. watched 1992 last weekend. im gonna watch ppv's from 1992 - til i get sick of it. i love the old blue steel cage. undertaker coming up through the ring, everything was so sick back then.
2. shoot interviews - when im stoned and/or my gf is asleep, im watching kevin nash tell stories from the road. its insane to hear how these guys lived. it reminds me a lot of skateboarding in a weird way. they were just fucked up and did the job as needed. so many good stories in the shoot interviews but kevin nash in particular is my favorite to listen to.
3. wrestling figures - i was obsessed as a kid but never got all the ones i wanted. now i have a spreadsheet of the ones that i wanted and i look on eBay at the prices. i still never buy them but i spend a weird amount of time looking.
life is so weird. but nostalgia is the best. i just dont think i can get into the current wrestling. but the stuff from when i was 5-15 years old was the coolest thing on the planet and the whole industry is fascinating to me. i dont tell anyone about any of the above lol.
Hangman vs. Lance Archer was amazing last night. Great match, lots of blood. I wasn't watching wrestling during CM Punk's WWE run so I'm not marking out as hard as everybody else about him. But he is doing some good shit, and I love MJF, so that storyline is pretty great. Cody needs to go away. Jericho needs to be phased into commentary position that occasionally gets pulled into the ring when a proper storyline permits. His podcast is great.
Man, elimination chamber was pretty bad.
Thanks for the recap!
I fell asleep during the tag match. Not from boredom, just tired and stoned.
MJF is fucking money. Mox vs. Danielson man, they gonna beat the shit out of each other.
Can't wait.
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This is the best shit.
If you guys are looking for podcasts/background noise I highly recommend Deadlock's Retro Reviews
. This and Cornette's show have been getting me through work for the past month or so.
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I hosted Darby Allin on Friday night for a skate sesh. He's a real nice dude.
I think AEW are too smart to do the "foreign heel" gimmick. Especially doing it right now with a Russian, that would be in horrible taste. I don't think the world is against the Russian people right now, just a select few of them.
I wonder what's going to happen tonight. Tony K has been wanking himself silly with hype again. I want to stay up and watch it but it doesn't start till 1am here and I still need to watch last week's first.
Can't you watch the TV on Fite for $5 a month or something
I really like Wardlow and can't wait for his turn on MJF. Punk bled so hard last night.
I was very hyped on Danhausen but why hasn't he wrestled yet? They are overdoing the curse and I'm losing interest already.
My wife is big mad right now though. She hated the Undisputed Era and is pissed they are in AEW. "I stopped watching NXT for a reason and now these assholes are on my TV again!"
Darby, Sammy, and Andrade are gonna tear the fucking house down on Friday.
As of now NXT has one thing I like. Nikkita Lyons aka Yam Yam Bigelow aka Thicc Foley aka Thicky the Wagon Steamboat aka Claptus Jack aka PAWG Van Dam
I really like Wardlow and can't wait for his turn on MJF. Punk bled so hard last night.
I was very hyped on Danhausen but why hasn't he wrestled yet? They are overdoing the curse and I'm losing interest already.
My wife is big mad right now though. She hated the Undisputed Era and is pissed they are in AEW. "I stopped watching NXT for a reason and now these assholes are on my TV again!"
Darby, Sammy, and Andrade are gonna tear the fucking house down on Friday.
As of now NXT has one thing I like. Nikkita Lyons aka Yam Yam Bigelow aka Thicc Foley aka Thicky the Wagon Steamboat aka Claptus Jack aka PAWG Van Dam
OH FUCKING BOY!!!!
THAT SHIT WAS AWESOME!!!
I missed the women's match on the buy-in but holy shit Penta is one of the greatest. I'm over the mist in the eyes gimmick in all of wrestling though. It needs to go away.
Eddie and Jericho was decent enough, glad Eddie got the win.
Both women's match were whatever but Tay and Jay got some ass. It would be great to see Jungle Boy and Sammy Guevara somehow team up with their gimmick being they bonded over dating the two hottest women in AEW. Double date vignettes where they just argue with each other and somehow find common ground in the fact they get to smash the best cheeks in the business.They could just call themselves the Ass boys and create a fued with The Gunn Club over the silly name that the Gunn Club hate anyways. OK enough of that.
Wardlow is awesome.
I'm disappointed in how little MJF bled. Like he tried and it hardened to fast and covered his wound and just dried up. Punk on the other hand I thought might bleed out cuz they got him going hard early in the match. Crazy shit. Loved the finish.
The triple threat tag was fucking amazing. So many creative spots. The last one where Jungle Boy hit the frankensteiner of the top rope into the german suplex was special.
Moxley v Danielson was as violent as I hoped it would be with a great way to bring out Regal. I just finished reading the chapter in Mox's book about him so that was really cool to see.
Trios tag was mental. I was skeptical when Sting debuted because his WWE run was so blah but dammit the man can still go and is more than willing to take some gnarly bumps. Even though Darby missed the coffin drop. Sammy always goes big on the PPV's
Unfortunately this is where I fell asleep. Through repeated attempts by my wife to wake me up, I just couldn't fight it anymore. She woke me up one last time for the final buckshot lariat and the win. Bummed that I spent the $50 and can't rewatch it.
Great PPV.
I really like how they built up Wardlow. Love it when they introduce the big guys as bodyguards just to start establishing a character for when they are ready. Wardlow wasn't ready two years ago when AEW started. Much like how Diesel was built up with Shawn Michaels. He didn't wrestle for awhile but when he was ready to debut in the ring, the character work and establishing him as a big badass is already done. But I honestly think Wardlow will be a better worker than Nash was, he was never really super talented just had the look and the right people around him.
Vince will absolutely try to sign him once his contract is up. Vince nuts for dudes like this.
I gotta quit getting so high on Wednesdays. Fell asleep again. Wifey woke me up to see Jeff Hardy come out. That was cool.
2 Cold Scorpio was the fucking truth and his interviews in Dark Side of the Ring are fucking hilarious.
I’m praying Lesnar is slated to win versus Reigns. Just pulled out my Lesnar action figure, still sealed as it’s the 1st one from 02/03? Ruthless aggression series if anyone remembers that.
Also, Orange Cassidy is terrible…..
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Nash’s update on Scott hall. He had three heart attacks over the weekend :'(
Scott will always be in my top 5 favs of all time
Hardy Boyz together in aew has hit me right in the nostalgia feels.
Also, met Scott Hall and Sean Waltman outside of a venue a couple years ago in Jacksonville. Talked to them for about five minutes and Scott seriously was one of the nicest, humble people even just in that small interaction. RIP to a real legend.
Don’t know how many of you are into Japanese wrestling, but Will Ospreay badly broke SANADA’s eye socket two days ago. Botched standing shooting star press and landed with both knees on his face, match was immediately stopped. Bummer.
SANADA’s going to be out for a while.
Man I missed all of last week for AEW but psyched Thunder Rosa got the strap. They are indeed over-using the tacks though.
There was a New Japan Strong taping yesterday Kinda close to me and I should've gone but got pretty drunk on Saturday night. Bummed I missed that.
I still try so hard to support WWE, but it is really unwatchable for 90% of each episode. It's hard to get hyped for whatever Steve Austin is gonna do when you flip the channel and Sting is going through 3 tables.
Ospreay got a big match with Moxley booked next month in Chicago, that should be sick.
Buttfart, I am always here for you if you having personal issues, let me know if you want my phone number.
Buttfart.
I fall asleep on Wednesday nights easier now knowing that when I wake up I will have a nice review of the things I missed. I think I made it right up until they said leyla and red velvet were after the commercial break.
Dustin is still very good in the ring. HAd a great match with Bryan Danielson right after he debuted.
I loved Pilman Sr. so much that his kid will always get a pass from me. Agree that they would be great in ROH, just to much talent in that division in AEW for them to be a threat. Does it look like they are teasing Julia to turn on them? just still rocking the eye patch and during the match last night they kept cutting to her just sitting on the ring steps and not watching the match looking kind of brooding.
Regal is great. Anybody listen to Talk is Jericho podcast? Regal is latest guest and it gets pretty heavy with him talking about his health conditions.
I think Sammy is pretty good but he got a punchable face, and the jealosy of him clapping Conti's cheeks I just can't get past.
I liked Dark Order at the very beginning when it was just Uno and Grayson and the gimps all looked the same and didn't have names. All the cult recruiting and subversive vignettes were real cool. Then they made it a comedy act, which I liked a lot less. John Silver is a total badass though.
You are correct though, MJF is real young and already climbing up the list of greatest heels of all time, and greatest promo of all time.
Now realizing I’m once again balls deep in my bi-yearly wrestling fan phase. Bought a peacock subscription to watch all the old Attitude Era shows and god that stuff is so good.
On the video game front if any of you are thinking of getting 2K22 the gameplay is the best it’s been in years it’s still buggy as all fuck (it’s 2K after all) but I’m guessing within the next couple weeks everything will be ironed out with updates. The custom arenas and wrestlers are what really make the game shine, the modern WWE roster is beyond ass so I’ve been spending most my time playing with Attitude Era CAW’s and arenas. I’m writing way too much about this but the point is 2K finally got the gameplay right and you can actually have fun without glitches this time around. I’d honestly even say this years game feels pretty close to a remastered modern No Mercy.
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On the video game front if any of you are thinking of getting 2K22 the gameplay is the best it’s been in years it’s still buggy as all fuck (it’s 2K after all) but I’m guessing within the next couple weeks everything will be ironed out with updates. The custom arenas and wrestlers are what really make the game shine, the modern WWE roster is beyond ass so I’ve been spending most my time playing with Attitude Era CAW’s and arenas. I’m writing way too much about this but the point is 2K finally got the gameplay right and you can actually have fun without glitches this time around. I’d honestly even say this years game feels pretty close to a remastered modern No Mercy.[close]
Is it better than 2k16? I'm still playing that but I might grab the new one once it goes on sale. Believe it or not I actually still play the n64 thq/aki games on an emulator too... Mostly no mercy because I've got a career mode going but I played revenge the other day and it might actually have a better roster. I'm convinced AKI man is the inspiration for suicide in TNA.
Also your username is bringing back fond memories of using the 95 rockies in every baseball video game that came out that year. Bichette, Galarraga, Castillo, and Larry Walker all hit 30 homers and I think all but the big cat hit over. 300. That was the first team that really put the rockies on the map as I remember it.Expand QuoteNow realizing I’m once again balls deep in my bi-yearly wrestling fan phase. Bought a peacock subscription to watch all the old Attitude Era shows and god that stuff is so good.
On the video game front if any of you are thinking of getting 2K22 the gameplay is the best it’s been in years it’s still buggy as all fuck (it’s 2K after all) but I’m guessing within the next couple weeks everything will be ironed out with updates. The custom arenas and wrestlers are what really make the game shine, the modern WWE roster is beyond ass so I’ve been spending most my time playing with Attitude Era CAW’s and arenas. I’m writing way too much about this but the point is 2K finally got the gameplay right and you can actually have fun without glitches this time around. I’d honestly even say this years game feels pretty close to a remastered modern No Mercy.[close]
I really need to start, I’ve been keeping up with AEW since it’s inception and still haven’t watched a full match. Darby and MJF are the main guys I really need to see. I’ve watched hours of MJF promos/interviews on YouTube and his heel work/dedication to the character is fucking great. If you got the hookup on TBS accounts I’d gladly take one if it’s not a hassle. Also it’s been a minute since I’ve used it so I’m not sure how good it is now but if you do wanna watch free wrestling and ufc shows/streams unethically watchwrestling.in is the spot. ;)
Dude. I fucked up and did that thing again where I tried to watch RAW. Holy shit. Big mistake.
I will say that I like this version of Brock Lesnar and although he ain't the best talker by far, I respect that he is actually trying to connect with the crowd and trying to cut a decent promo.
Having Omos destroy legit tag teams is bad news. Viking Raiders will be gone soon.
Ricochet has lost on TV at least 3 times since winning the IC belt. WTF?
Much more is wrong but I don't have the time or energy.
Oh wait, Sasha Banks is in a tag team with Naomi. Thats the best they got for Sasha right now? Bullshit.
Actually attempting to watch night 2 but I'm giving myself a 20 minute buffer so I can skip around when it gets rough.
Sami Zayn is awesome but that match would have been better if it ended with him heluva kicking wee man in the face. I hate it when celebrities win, it feels like such a sell-out.
After all this time Lashley still amazes me with how simultaneously impressive and boring he is.
Rhea Ripley and Liv Morgan look like they're about to shoot a lesbian bondage scene.
Did AJ just accidentally punch himself in the face and bust himself open walking down the ramp? I'm pretty sure he did.
That new day match was awful. Pete Dunne as butch is stupid as fuck and they basically buried the new day again. You couldn't cut one of the 40 video recap packages and give them a few more minutes?
Pat McAfee is a blind spot for me. I think he's awesome but he could be awful and I wouldn't notice. It's like watching one of my big dumb jock Yinzer buddies living out our adolescent dream so of course I marked out huge for the entrance and win. Can't believe how over he is with this crowd hahaha. I'm also cracking up at evil old Mr. McBurns sitting there with a flirty homoerotic smirk every time his prize golden muscle twink does something good. Vince should probably never take his jacket off again, it's getting harder and harder for him to deny that he's a member of the reptilian illuminati.
Vince's segment with stone cold was predictable but I still popped. Definitely another blind spot because I know it's going to be terrible if I try to rewatch it.
Brock vs Roman in the Heyman on a pole match. I didn't really want to watch this until Brock did his own intro, I'm in. Nice little callback there when Roman rubbed his forehead and looked concerned when Brock took his gloves off. Is this honestly what they're going to do? Just do finishers back and forth over and over? This kind of sucks. Yeah that sucked. Pretty lame main event.
Edit: it's the morning after. Night 2 definitely wasn't as good as night one, although Pat McAfee tried his best. I think 2 nights is definitely the way forward but it still felt really bloated and uneven at times. They did better on the pacing this year but some matches were too short (new day match, main event could have been an actual match and not just spamming finishers) and some were too long (AJ - edge could have had a lot of fat trimmed). Overall this was a hell of a good event though. I wish it was a little more focused on the actual wrestling but I had fun and there were more hits than misses.
That being said, there's no way I'm even going to attempt to watch raw or smackdown. Even as much as I enjoyed this there were several points where I switched tabs and watched the last rampage or stuff I missed from night 1. It just doesn't hold my attention the way AEW or old ECW does, probably because I'm a salty old smark that craves blood and unprotected chair shots to the head. Other than the pure nostalgia stuff and Yinzer bias my favorite thing about mania was Cody doing his AEW entrance and move set, so it's going to be interesting to see how they manage to fuck up his booking this time around.
Pretty solid review. I too was wondering about AJ Styles’ face. Not a fan of him so this just added to me thinking this guy is a clown. I felt like the women’s’ matches were solid & did well in terms of creating a powerful division of WWE. The RKBro match ruled & as for the rest, I enjoyed it BUT hated that Reigns won. Deep down I knew that’s going to be the case but I’ve been a fan of Lesnar since his original debut.
I'm definitely more of a casual wrestling fan these days, but Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania i always will tune in for.
not going to do a long review but i definitely thought this was a fun Wrestlemania. The Cody / Seth match was my favorite of the two nights. The Stone Cold / KO match was fun and the Johnny Knoxville / Zayn was way more entertaining than i anticipated.
Fun show, but the "biggest match in wrestlemania history" really fell short.
Sorry Buttfart, been on vacation since Mania. Mostly agree with your Mania reviews, Stone Cold was awesome. Was that McAfee's first win in WWE? He's only had the matches with Adam Cole, right? I wish Smackdown was better because I like him on commentary.
Lashley. Man. What terrible booking. They just put in months of work on Omos to have him lose at Mania? Squashing tag teams to lose to Lashley? Unless Bobby taking the belt from Roman, this is pointless.
This may be a hot take, but the star/surprise of the weekend for me was Logan Paul. The kid is a natural heel and looked like he loved the hate. He moved real good in the ring as well. Kid can wrestle. Here's a quote from my wife, "Baby, am I high or was logan Paul's frog splash better than both Mysterio's?" Miz v Paul at Summer Slam could be great, but not sure how Paul would work as a babyface after Miz turned on him.
I actually was entertained by Knoxville, I thought it was great. Not surprised he got the W just because people are loving watching Sami lose. Feeds into the conspiracy gimmick. Props to Knoxville for thinking quick when that final rat trap didn't pop off when he hit the button. He had to spring it manually and almost got caught up in it.
Hope no one actually expected a good match between Brock and Roman.
IMO, the biggest Mania matches of all time are Hogan/Warrior and Hogan/Rock, but my favorite actual Mania match has to be Savage/Flair.
AEW has been real solid. Max Castor spits hard. Bucks v FTR was real sick. HOOK no selling the curse is funny. Agree with you on the blood and Hardy high spots. We don't need to see that every week.
Finally saw a Skye Blue match and holy shit you are right about that ass. She needs to join up with Tay-Jay. She had a decent match too. Still working on some good nicknames for her, right now all I got is "Thigh Blue"
Also, not sure if you saw, but Thigh Blue is wrestling Marina Shaffir tonight on Dynamite so get the tissues ready!!!!
i read yesterday that AEW Khali came out because AEW is doing a big push in India with it's TV partner Eurosport. This is happening after Warner Media merged with Discovery(who owns Eurosport). Satnam Singh and that other guy Sonjay Dutt(guy with Jay Lethal) will be doing a lot of promotion work on the channel in India so they wanted those dudes immediately in a storyline with a known star.
Kinda whack but business is business and if they wanna keep signing these big dudes, they gotta get the money from somewhere. Our darling little indy project is finally succumbing to media deals and corporate pressure.
Oh well, as long as we have Thigh Blue and a pack of tissues we'll be OK.
I absolutely 100% DO NOT want a 3 hour dynamite. I usually don't make it to 10pm as it is, and I like it now because every minute on that show counts.
I forgot Rampage started early on Friday so I missed that, but Battle of the Belts on Saturday was pretty sick, even though I know you are pissed that Sammy G got the belt back. Gresham and Castle was pretty sick.
IvelASSe is the current champion in Shine Wrestling.
It's amazing how good in the ring Dustin still is at 53.
I heard a rumor that AEW is planning a big crossover show with NJPW coming up.
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Can you do random WCW jobbers?
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Damn that would be tough because I only have WWF/WWE magazines. And there probably aren't good printed photos of those dudes. I'll look through my supplies and see if I can come up with anything. Great idea!
I missed the Punk match I was driving home. My friend texted me and said "Where the fuck is Dustin's blood?" He said it was short and kinda sloppy and Dustin hurt his knee early on and Punk had trouble lifting him up for the GTS.
Rest of the show was kinda ehhhhhh except for the coffin match.
Britt Baker fumbling her lines after she praised herself for mic work had me laughing. Her insults weren't very good either.
Having Adam Cole make the announcement was a miss. this huge announcement to partner with New Japan and its announced by a white dude. Then another white dude comes out (Jay White.) Like damn, let the Japanese guy make the announcement. They could have had him try to interrupt and then Ishii could have come out and knocked him out, setting up the match for Friday. But man, this PPV will be awesome as I'm not super familiar with the New Japan roster. I love Suzuki and one of his nicknames is Murder Grandpa. That Suzuki v. Samoa Joe match was fucking awesome.
I haven't watched wrestling since the mid 90s but Mick Foley is gonna be at the local comedy club this weekend. Might go check him out and hear wrestling stories. Motherfuckin Mankind...
I heard over the weekend that a drinking game has been created at events that I announce. Every time I talk about pro wrestling, you take a shot.
Yeah Swerve isn't doing much for me, but damn the suplex to the floor was brutal. Darby takes those bumps for fun.
Thigh Blue needs a win so bad. Don't want her to fade away.
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Thigh Blue needs a win so bad. Don't want her to fade away.[close]
I don’t think she’s officially on yet. It’s like how Yuta JUST got the All Elite graphic in April.
Might have missed anyone commenting on this, but Jamie Hayters been repping FA/Hockey a lot this year
Darby was riding a Heroin deck when I skated with him, but he definitely changes his shit up like a real skater would. It's great to see that he doesn't have a specific board for television like that chick in NXT who you could just tell they handed a board to and said "go buy some Vans, you're a skater now."
Yeah Swerve just comes across fake as fuck on the mic but he can fucking go in the ring. And he's not getting good wins to establish himself, so I care even less. He's not on the level of Darby or Orange where he is so over that losing isn't gonna kill his vibe. Like Darby and Orange could lose and still be loved cuz the character is so strong. Swerve, not so much.
#protectthighblue
Expand QuoteDarby was riding a Heroin deck when I skated with him, but he definitely changes his shit up like a real skater would. It's great to see that he doesn't have a specific board for television like that chick in NXT who you could just tell they handed a board to and said "go buy some Vans, you're a skater now."
Yeah Swerve just comes across fake as fuck on the mic but he can fucking go in the ring. And he's not getting good wins to establish himself, so I care even less. He's not on the level of Darby or Orange where he is so over that losing isn't gonna kill his vibe. Like Darby and Orange could lose and still be loved cuz the character is so strong. Swerve, not so much.
#protectthighblue[close]
Would you believe that they've recently had the nerve to put her in a tag team with Anna Jay? How the fuck am I supposed to concentrate on that match?
I guess she's replacing Tay, but if they start doing that thing where they turn to the camera and bop their hips together so asses jiggle I might just give up. I'm just imagining them coming out with Jungle Boy and dancing to Baltimora. That slender waist, flat stomach, hairless body and cute little butt would wiggling around would drive me nuts.... And he's dating Anna Jay too!
Man I really think they missed the mark with Big Cass errrr I mean William Morrissey. That dude came out and looked 10 times better than he ever looked in WWE, absolutely JACKED. Made Wardlow look like Fuego del Sol. And they squashed him. He can never go back. He was supposed to be the next level up after Lance Archer, but lets have him only take one powerbomb when Wardlow had to use 4 last week to beat someone billed as a lesser opponent. I even found my old "U SAWFT" shirt in the closet and was reppin'.
What I don't like is that MJF constantly overstates the fact that he doesn't care if his guy loses as long as Wardlow gets hurt. Why not use that as a reason for a DQ or something other than a clean finish? Like this could have been the main event, with it going outside, maybe Archer and Butcher sneak attack since they are on MJF's payroll and owe him a favor for not getting the job done. MAybe the show could have ended with Wardlow and Cass just destroying all the security together. I don't know, but it just seemed like there could be a better way to get to the contract signing. We still need a moment where MJF heels up and Wardlow ends a segment on his back.
Next weeks Dynamite is in Long Island so maybe........... It will be interesting to see how the crowd is there because obviously they love MJF so lets see if they boo Wardlow.
You are right though, the bar is set pretty high for them so it is a let down when a week is kind of a miss.
i loved Jericho's jacket and now I'm kinda digging the whole "sports entertainment thing" because they are using fireballs as an obvious dig at WWE. This gimmick is just one big troll to Vince and I'm not mad at it. Still think 2.0 and Daniel Garcia are kinda whack, but the feeling is there.
"I'm surprised Jeff Hardy hasn't tried to do a Swanton off it yet." Holy shit dude I cracked up on that one.
Stu is unfortunately out of contract at the moment
Yeah DO is weird because they have 3 tag teams in it (og Dark rose, 5 and 10, silver and Reynolds). Cabana COULD slot in there, but I feel like he and Uno are too similar.
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Yeah and I feel like hes always off doing his own thing the last half year or so. I almost wonder if it's because of his heat with punk, like he's exiling himself or something.
It's definitely going to be a weird few months, the roster is unreasonably bloated so I think they're going to look at these releases as almost an upgrade... Like now they have something better so they have no real incentive to give guys like Stu or Janela a raise and every time they trim one the average value of the roster increases. I'm hoping ROH helps clean house a bit too, although I'd be super happy if they bought Dalton Castle and the boys to the main roster.
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Yeah and I feel like hes always off doing his own thing the last half year or so. I almost wonder if it's because of his heat with punk, like he's exiling himself or something.
It's definitely going to be a weird few months, the roster is unreasonably bloated so I think they're going to look at these releases as almost an upgrade... Like now they have something better so they have no real incentive to give guys like Stu or Janela a raise and every time they trim one the average value of the roster increases. I'm hoping ROH helps clean house a bit too, although I'd be super happy if they bought Dalton Castle and the boys to the main roster.[close]
I think it was just revealed Colt was gone because he was shooting the Young Rock where he plays The Brooklyn Brawler, but I’d imagine it’s gotta be weird having Punk around. Sad that things haven’t been patched up.
The bloat is getting there but I almost think the answer is more show and less wrestlers. I like the idea that some cycle in and out more so they don’t get overexposed, though I’d like to see more Andrade. He was the guy that got me back into wrestling (the NXT takeover he beat Drew McIntyre for the title) and he was regaining his mojo in the ring.
Been trying to think of pros whose names would make great wrestler names
Arto Saari
Anthony Van Engelen
Rowan Zorilla
Frank Villani
Milton Martinez (maybe for a woman)
Not sure on Tony Hawk but maybe Anthony Hawk would make a good one
Been trying to think of pros whose names would make great wrestler names
Arto Saari
Anthony Van Engelen
Rowan Zorilla
Frank Villani
Milton Martinez (maybe for a woman)
Not sure on Tony Hawk but maybe Anthony Hawk would make a good one
Punk v Page is going to be great
Toni Storm is a goddess. Still can't get caught with an OF account though.
My wife thinks HOOK is cute. I think he is badass. I named one of the neighborhood stray cats HOOK. I love that Tony is getting the rights to actual songs for people's intros. That riff on the beginning of the Action Bronson song is great.
Abadonkadonk is as good as its gonna get for that one.
Fully agree with the dropkick analogy. Would Reynolds be Shawn Michaels? While were on the topic of making basics look amazing, I always liked how Ted DiBiase took a back drop.
When Wrestlemania was in Tampa, I went to one convention and paid for 2 autographs. New Jack and BARRY FUCKING HOROWITZ! That Dark Side vignette was one of the best things AEW has ever done outside of the ring.
Regal was one of those guys where as a kid in kayfabe world, I knew he was a bad guy, but I secretly had no clue why I liked him so much. His style was so different from everyone else, and his look of British discontent was so money.
Darby said "Oh you made the swanton famous? Hold my non-alcoholic bev while I climb this ladder"
I'll say this again. Undisputed Elie is a whack ass name and KOR and Fish kinda suck as characters. I hope Jeff wins again in dramatic surprise upset fashion.
MJF is coming up on Rick Rude status as far as greatest heels of all time IMO. But I do love when he is full babyface in Long Island.
Podcasts is what got me back into it. I was listening to JR, Steve Austin, Jericho and the Attitude Era podcast for nostalgia, and after hours of that was like hey maybe I should actually check out this thing I'm spending so much time on.
@os89 honestly check out AEW Dynamite, it's only two hours every week. They're leading up to their next PPV in a couple of weeks which will be well worth the watch.
Any of you sweat hogs got a good classic PPV recommendation? I tend to favor the late 80s/early 90's stuff but I'm pretty open minded.
Been watching a lot of old WCW stuff on peacock lately... Today was a few episodes of Clash of the champions and great American bash 92. This was during that weird period when Flair went to the WWF and they had the NJPW partnership so there's all these weird ass tag team matches where the crowd has no idea who to cheer for haha. It's really awesome to hear a razor sharp young JR calling a 20 minute Pillman & Liger match though, I would say if you're going to watch any match on this show make it that one. Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham vs Rick Rude & Steve Austin is great too but takes a while to get going.
Expand QuoteAny of you sweat hogs got a good classic PPV recommendation? I tend to favor the late 80s/early 90's stuff but I'm pretty open minded.
Been watching a lot of old WCW stuff on peacock lately... Today was a few episodes of Clash of the champions and great American bash 92. This was during that weird period when Flair went to the WWF and they had the NJPW partnership so there's all these weird ass tag team matches where the crowd has no idea who to cheer for haha. It's really awesome to hear a razor sharp young JR calling a 20 minute Pillman & Liger match though, I would say if you're going to watch any match on this show make it that one. Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham vs Rick Rude & Steve Austin is great too but takes a while to get going.[close]
Not 80/90s but WWECW One night stand 2005 and 2006 are probably the only two wwe ppvs from the last 20 years that I go back and watch throughout. Maybe WM XX too.
That Liger vs Pillman match is awesome. They had a good match on the first episode of nitro as well, worth checking out
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny of you sweat hogs got a good classic PPV recommendation? I tend to favor the late 80s/early 90's stuff but I'm pretty open minded.
Been watching a lot of old WCW stuff on peacock lately... Today was a few episodes of Clash of the champions and great American bash 92. This was during that weird period when Flair went to the WWF and they had the NJPW partnership so there's all these weird ass tag team matches where the crowd has no idea who to cheer for haha. It's really awesome to hear a razor sharp young JR calling a 20 minute Pillman & Liger match though, I would say if you're going to watch any match on this show make it that one. Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham vs Rick Rude & Steve Austin is great too but takes a while to get going.[close]
Not 80/90s but WWECW One night stand 2005 and 2006 are probably the only two wwe ppvs from the last 20 years that I go back and watch throughout. Maybe WM XX too.
That Liger vs Pillman match is awesome. They had a good match on the first episode of nitro as well, worth checking out[close]
This one was actually Liger & Pillman teaming against Steamboat (boi-oi-oi-oing) & the "Lithuanian" version of Nikita Koloff (lol).. It's a weird card haha. It's not as good as when they wrestled each other but 2 of the best workers of the era plus Steamboat is kind of hard to fuck up.
I actually do the same with ONS 2005. Even before I fully got back into wrestling I watched that (or at least Sandmans entrance) every now and then. ECW is my favorite promotion of all time so it's obviously near and dear to me. If you're interested I found a daily motion channel with bunch of episodes of Hardcore TV from the 90's that are video from the network but dubbed over with the original audio so you don't have to listen to the WWE music and get the authentic entrances.
Got a quick story.
I work at The Boardr. They kinda knew about Darby Allin when he came and skated our park.
I showed them the Darby and Jeff Hardy match and it blew their minds. They had no clue what to think. One quote was "Is this what wrestling is now?"
Appreciate the link and the ticket lifehack mr. Buttfart!
A few months ago smackdown rolled into town and we got nosebleeds because they were the only tickets left. My buddy checked Ticketmaster about 30 minutes into the show and saw some seats that hadn’t sold and marked up the tickets we bought on some photo edit app to match those better seats. So we had hardcam seats for about $20 haha. Just gotta make sure you weren’t stealing anyones seats.
I’ve only seen Takeshita’s recent stuff but man is he good. He’s actually wrestling Lee moriarty at an indie show soon not too far from me.
I'll say this again. Undisputed Elie is a whack ass name and KOR and Fish kinda suck as characters.
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I don’t know why but I love Kyle O’Reilly. I laugh every time he earnestly bobs his head completely off the beat to his entrance song and still love him for some reason. I think I just really liked his singles push and feud with Adam Cole in NXT? Great wrestler, terrible showman. Big fan of that goofball.
CM Punk showing up in an “abortion rights” shirt in Texas was awesome. And Excalibur complimenting him on it while JR and Tony Schiavone sat unsure how to respond. Never would have happened in WWE.
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I don’t know why but I love Kyle O’Reilly. I laugh every time he earnestly bobs his head completely off the beat to his entrance song and still love him for some reason. I think I just really liked his singles push and feud with Adam Cole in NXT? Great wrestler, terrible showman. Big fan of that goofball.
CM Punk showing up in an “abortion rights” shirt in Texas was awesome. And Excalibur complimenting him on it while JR and Tony Schiavone sat unsure how to respond. Never would have happened in WWE.
Dammit. I fell asleep. Probably won't make it through Rampage tonight either.
I think I'm in love with Maki. I love singing karaoke and can't believe that's actually a gimmick. I also love the dead weight delayed timber style tree fall that she does. Wish I could have stayed awake through the match. I vaguely remember wifey trying to shake me awake to see Sting getting his ass whooped.
Swerve definitely looks and moves like a heel.
I tried to like KOR, but I need the whole package. I don't care how well you can work a match if your character is whack.
I'm actually trying to think of someone with a shit character that I still liked to watch in the ring and all I got is Neville's babyface run as "The Man that Gravity Forgot." That man is soooo good and had to drop a belt to fucking Enzo Amore (who I actually loved as a character but he was total dogshit in the ring) He had some straight bangers vs. Cena and Rollins on RAW in that time.
I also remember going to a Monday Night Raw with a sign that said "SABLE 3:6D"
Alright last Dynamite before the PPV let's fucking go.
MJF out right away. Smart. What a great opening match... This feud is so good. That was some top notch sportsertainment, strong attitude era vibes. Wardlow had his breakout at the last PPV, this one might make him a full blown star. Good on AEW and JR to say something about Texas too. Hopefully that disappointed Grampa stare he gave the camera gets through to a few people.
Jericho throwing fireballs in peoples faces and calling himself a wizard is now like his 15th gimmick that I'm 100% here for. He's just the king of it. I mean the dude got a list over twice (3x if you count the Owens list), so he legitimately can get people to cheer for a piece of paper. I put his really fucking sweet new shirt (https://www.shopaew.com/chris-jericho-the-wizard.html) in my cart but I want to see what he does at the PPV before I buy it.
Marq Quen out here lookin like the illegitimate son of Sir Mo from Men on a mission. Illegitimate because he's actually pretty good.
Holy shit United empire! I was just watching njpw the other day and thinking how bad I wanted to see Jeff Cobb in AEW and Great O'Khan is such a great throwback heel. That roppongi vice - FTR match was really good too, they actually got me with that finish haha.
Next up is the starks/jb/Swerve 3way. I feel like I should use modern language to describe such a modern match so that shit was lit yo....375 pounds of Keith Lee doing a corkscrew over the top to the outside is not something I thought I'd see today. I think he legit fucked Hobbs up there too, he didn't move much.
I have to laugh every time I see Britt wrestle because her tiny ass makes her a great example of what my coworkers refer to as a "Pennsylvania Longback". Our hospital is on the same hill as the dental school she went to and there's hundreds of them in pastel scrub pants roaming the area on any given day. Glad she won. I feel like she's gonna job to Ruby in the final though.
Joe vs Kyle O'Rimjob was basically what I expected. Joe is great, KOR is boring. Im glad we're gritting Joe in the finals but I fully expect him to put Cole over. I'll be very happy if I'm wrong about that one.
Anyways, looking forward to the PPV. Theres a countdown/review show on TNT tomorrow (Friday) night after the NHL game (rampage is at 630 this week) for people who need to get caught up on the storylines.
Expand QuoteAlright last Dynamite before the PPV let's fucking go.
MJF out right away. Smart. What a great opening match... This feud is so good. That was some top notch sportsertainment, strong attitude era vibes. Wardlow had his breakout at the last PPV, this one might make him a full blown star. Good on AEW and JR to say something about Texas too. Hopefully that disappointed Grampa stare he gave the camera gets through to a few people.
Jericho throwing fireballs in peoples faces and calling himself a wizard is now like his 15th gimmick that I'm 100% here for. He's just the king of it. I mean the dude got a list over twice (3x if you count the Owens list), so he legitimately can get people to cheer for a piece of paper. I put his really fucking sweet new shirt (https://www.shopaew.com/chris-jericho-the-wizard.html) in my cart but I want to see what he does at the PPV before I buy it.
Marq Quen out here lookin like the illegitimate son of Sir Mo from Men on a mission. Illegitimate because he's actually pretty good.
Holy shit United empire! I was just watching njpw the other day and thinking how bad I wanted to see Jeff Cobb in AEW and Great O'Khan is such a great throwback heel. That roppongi vice - FTR match was really good too, they actually got me with that finish haha.
Next up is the starks/jb/Swerve 3way. I feel like I should use modern language to describe such a modern match so that shit was lit yo....375 pounds of Keith Lee doing a corkscrew over the top to the outside is not something I thought I'd see today. I think he legit fucked Hobbs up there too, he didn't move much.
I have to laugh every time I see Britt wrestle because her tiny ass makes her a great example of what my coworkers refer to as a "Pennsylvania Longback". Our hospital is on the same hill as the dental school she went to and there's hundreds of them in pastel scrub pants roaming the area on any given day. Glad she won. I feel like she's gonna job to Ruby in the final though.
Joe vs Kyle O'Rimjob was basically what I expected. Joe is great, KOR is boring. Im glad we're gritting Joe in the finals but I fully expect him to put Cole over. I'll be very happy if I'm wrong about that one.
Anyways, looking forward to the PPV. Theres a countdown/review show on TNT tomorrow (Friday) night after the NHL game (rampage is at 630 this week) for people who need to get caught up on the storylines.[close]
Hah what’s PA long back?
I’ve loved Ricky Starks ever since he sold that move where he was thrown into the ropes and his opponent dropped down flat and instead of stepping over him like 99.9% of other wrestlers do, he tripped on the guy which is the intent of the move.
Hey Buttfart, I forgot to address this comment from you.
"Hahahaha. Dude. I need you to understand that I spend way too much time during my days just making stupid wrestling jokes to myself so this shit makes me so happy to read."
I fully understand, I have an entire federation that plays out in my mind. My character is a suit wearing businessman named "Strictly Business" Scott Stevens. Sometimes he takes a break in the match to answer his cell phone. Other times he will just look at his watch, grab his briefcase, and leave. After getting counted out and losing, he will cut a backstage promo explaining he had a big meeting that netted him way more money than a match in (insert shitty town name here) could ever pay him.
I also have this crazy tag team where one guy is a paranormal medium and his tag team partner is a ghost. Because as the medium puts it, "You can't pin what you can't see" So homie will start the match, get his ass beat, and then tag in the ghost. This is when the other tag team just starts selling punches and kicks with nobody there. It would be hilarious. Then all of a sudden, both guys are just beat to fuck, and the medium puts his hand out for a tag, sells the tag, gets in the ring and gets the pin.
Pennsylvania longback popped me hard. HAHAHAH!!! Hey Atiba! It means she has no ass!!! Just a long back!
Jeff Cobb wrestled one match against Cody Rhodes in the first couple months of AEW, but obviously Cody went over. Been hearing about this guy so I'm looking forward to it.
I really blew it not going to the NJPW Strong, tapings here when I had the chance.
The TNT open challenge era with Cody was so good. It’s like the complete opposite of his current WWE booking of feuding with Seth Rollins for three ppvs even though he’s already beat him twice
Dang if you guys think volleyball players have no asses then we need to export someone of them from California to where you guys are!
I like Cody for the most part, but it’s that WwE/HHH thing of ignoring the crowd and making the face go over the likes of Malachi Black for example that kind of grated on me
He can elevate people even winning as the tnt open challenge showed and his match with Wardlow, but that little “post-neck tattoo” run where it just felt like he was on a different show, just got me a little bummed on him.
Apparently Colt Cabana is going to ROH. M
i love pro wrestling. but, just like, jacking off to it
Should’ve been Statlander. Her last couple matches have pushed her into my favorites at AEW. And now Ruby has an uphill road to win the crowd back over. MAN did they boo her. I felt bad.
DOUBLE OR NOTHING TONIGHT BOYS!!!! LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO!!!!!!
I'm so over following this MJF saga. Been stressing me out. I thought it was a work until I reflected on the match and was certain it isn't, but then just in the middle of typing this I saw this (https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/v0sr34/mjf_to_srs_i_showed_up_last_minute_i_left_after/). I don't know any more. I hope he can be happy and successful wherever he ends up, but the selfush part of me wants that to be in AEW cause he's my favourite part of the show and I'm not watching WWE just for him. Wrestling is more fun when you don't follow the BTS nonsense.
DoN was great I thought. Although WTF are they thinking making Britt and Cole the winners of the Owen tournament. Britt is on Charlotte levels of getting fed every other woman in the company. Adam Cole I just do not get why he's on tv every single week without fail while so many others miss out. Also if you're going to do this undisputed / redragon / bucks / elite / whatever storyline with them all then please just fucking get on with it.
Double or Nothing kinda fell short for me.
Having the Hardy's beat the Bucks is just nonsense.
Booking Rancid to have Ruby Soho lose is nonsense.
The highlights for me were Thunder Rosa v. Deeb even though I felt that match went a little long.
Darby v KORimjob was one of the better matches.
Death Triangle v HOB was awesome except for the finish I am so fucking over people spraying mist in the eyes.
Triple threat tag was really good. HUNGLE BOY!!! HAHHAHAH!!!!!
Page v Punk wasn't that awesome and unless Page is hurt and needs some time off, the wrong dude won.
I really like the way Hook works. He does this little extra shit to make something from a small guy believable. His suplexes are masterful and watch his toes dude he like seriously is on some ballerina shit working for a few extra inches between the mat and his opponent coming down from a suplex.
I also like how he was in the background for a very long time at Team Taz and they really didn't have him do much until he was ready to be amazing. I'm just glad that AEW values tag teams so these guys will be together for awhile and not just randomly split up for no reason like in the other place.
And yeah, if Ruby didn't get boo'd so bad on Friday night against Statlander, she fully wins. And then you can have Ruby and Cole doing the ceremony and maybe Ruby puts her arm around Cole for a photo and then BOOM! Out comes the Pennsylvanina longback to attack Ruby and keep the rivalry going on some keep yo hands off my man type shit.
Maybe the best thing about the whole PPV was "Wild Thing" playing on a loop until Jericho made it to the sound board and shut it off. Fucking incredible. It took me a second to actually realize the song was still playing but dammit that shit was funny.
And dude, I know you mentioned maybe starting to listen to Talk is Jericho, but you really need to. It is VERY good. He just did an episode with the whole JAS and those dudes are funny as fuck. Garcia straight up says he bit the backwards Kangol hat from Triple H to complete his "sports entertainment" look.
Jericho is a great storyteller and will fully break down the pychology of certain things he did and it really shows that he is truly one of the great ones.
And if you like bts stuff, he did a recent episode with a trademark attorney fully breaking down how wrestlers get to own their names and gimmicks and how certain things could get stolen when paperwork isn't filed right. Pretty interesting stuff. Jericho owns the name "Chris Jericho" but WWE own "Y2J" "The Millenium Man" "The List" and anything Jericho created while at WWE is owned by WWE. They talk about how Dave Bautista was changed to "Batista" so WWE could own the name, and other shit like that. Pretty interesting stuff.
Dude that might have been the greatest promo of all time.
Did anyone see on RAW on Monday where Becky Lynch straight up said she was a wizard? She needs to check herself. Going after Ric Flair over who "The Man" is and now just saying she a wizard for no good reason. I haven't ever once seen her throw a fireball.
Timing is actually the main reason I thought it wasn't a work (at first) because it's pretty shitty to start all this right at Wardlow's crowning culmination of a 2.5 year story. Now after that promo I wouldn't be surprised if it was a work from the start that began when MJF couldn't make that meet and greet for whatever reason and they decided to make a story out of it. If that's the case then I still think it's sad to overshadow the Wardlow story with it but maybe it had to be done in order to have this promo happen in front of the network execs, because he just delivered a moment that will no doubt go down in wrestling history. It might've been ok if they'd kicked off something for Wardlow at the same time instead of just having him squash a 50 year old fat guy.
I don't quite know what the end goal is with MJF. He almost turned the entire company heel with a single promo which is a bad route to go down IMO. Maybe this is their plan to elevate him to major stardom. Shit like this is maybe what it takes these days to get non-fans' eyes on wrestling. If they get it right then everyone who knows anything about wrestling is going to know about MJF, and therefore AEW. Which is exactly what the company needs because they haven't become a household name yet. I think he's the only person in the world who has the potential to add his name alongside Hogan, Rock, Austin and Cena, if that's ever possible again. AEW would sure be better off if it was.
While I'm here I've heard others say they think it's heading towards either Summer of Punk III or Summer of MJF. I wasn't watching for the last one, what actually was it that makes it an "event"? I don't understand what the difference was between that summer and any other 4 month period where a bunch of shit happened for somebody
Someone on the wrestling Reddit hooked me up with last minute tickets to dynamite last night
Such as a crazy show. First time seeing punk wrestle live, tanahashi, mjf pipe bomb. It was a great time. Now rampage tomorrow!
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Such as a crazy show. First time seeing punk wrestle live, tanahashi, mjf pipe bomb. It was a great time. Now rampage tomorrow![close]
Dude you got to see a historic promo! That's so sick, I can't even imagine the energy in that room.
I got to go to a Dynamite in April....the Punk vs Dustin episode where they announced forbidden door. It's so much fun and I highly recommend it to anyone who has a chance. It wasn't nearly as expensive as I thought it was going to be either.
Thigh Blue is wrestling a dark match against marina shaffir and I thought of y’all <3
Surprised Kiera Hogan isn’t doing anything for you guys (in the Skye Blue way)
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Oh she did last night haha
That punk promo was sad! It really took the wind out of the whole crowd. After that it got pretty dead, myself included.
The Lucha bros. Vs bucks was the loudest crowd I’ve ever heard. Hometown heroes vs Latin heroes and everyone in the crowd was on board. Got some fun dark matches with Chris daniels and another one with Frankie kaz, SCU chants the whole night.
I didn’t think that the rampage show would be as good as dynamite but it definitely was
Fair enough. My type was Dakota Kai when she first went heel and was wearing Cut offs and all and I’m conventional enough that Anna Jay is my top AEW female wrestler
Holy shit did anybody watch Hell in A Cell last night? Overall it was pretty mehhhhh but I got to give Cody some respect for going out there last night. They really did their best to have a sick match and they definitely did the best they could. Seth in the polka dots was pretty good and Cody busting out the bull rope was a nice homage to his old man.
Now back to the task at hand, which is properly rating the women of AEW.
The Bunny doesn't get near enough shine, she is sexy as hell.
And low key, Penelope Cruz is one of the most talented girls on the roster in the ring. She had some decent matches at the beginning but got lost in the shuffle once Kip Sabian disappeared and the angle/team up with Miro fell flat. She pretty cute too.
My boy Kyle O’Reilly. Jobber to the stars. He’s like Sierra Fellers. Exceptionally good yet somehow anti-exceptional. Big fan of that goof.
Agreed Swerve needed a heel turn. Looking forward to him vs. Keith Lee.
I have tickets to Dynamite (and I think Rampage too?) in Detroit June 29. First Dynamite after Forbidden Door with Blood and Guts team Jericho vs. team Kingston. Never been to a TV level wrestling show and I’m excited.
No offense intended. I sincerely love Kyle O’Reilly and have come to accept that I’ve taken on no one else’s favorite as a favorite and am happy to see him in the main event, even though he was not going to win.
Damn. I was travelling to Vancouver yesterday and missed the whole show.
Do they need another belt? I'm not sure.
Does anyone know what station/time I can watch Rampage tomorrow in Vancouver?
Once again, SLAP doing the real work and pretty much willed a Swerve heel turn into existence.
ANd to anyone still watching WWE, it's so funny to me how they try so hard to kill off tag teams and stables the minute they are actually getting in the zone. I was kinda turning the corner on Judgement Day when Finn Balor came out for them, but then just laughed my ass off when they started jumping Edge. Like they put a lot of effort into that group and Edge is really the only one that can talk in that crew. So now he a babyface again? Jesus. Vince changes his mind so much and the writers don't know what the fuck is happening because they hired reality TV writers to write wrestling storylines.
Damn. I was travelling to Vancouver yesterday and missed the whole show.
Do they need another belt? I'm not sure.
Does anyone know what station/time I can watch Rampage tomorrow in Vancouver?
Once again, SLAP doing the real work and pretty much willed a Swerve heel turn into existence.
ANd to anyone still watching WWE, it's so funny to me how they try so hard to kill off tag teams and stables the minute they are actually getting in the zone. I was kinda turning the corner on Judgement Day when Finn Balor came out for them, but then just laughed my ass off when they started jumping Edge. Like they put a lot of effort into that group and Edge is really the only one that can talk in that crew. So now he a babyface again? Jesus. Vince changes his mind so much and the writers don't know what the fuck is happening because they hired reality TV writers to write wrestling storylines.
Expand QuoteNo offense intended. I sincerely love Kyle O’Reilly and have come to accept that I’ve taken on no one else’s favorite as a favorite and am happy to see him in the main event, even though he was not going to win.[close]
Oh for sure he was never going to win - just felt calling him was a jobber was a little rough.
Also, what do people think of his and Bobby Fishs entrance music? I kinda dig the rip off Danzigness of it and might be the only entrance I’d listen to on my own
No offense intended. I sincerely love Kyle O’Reilly and have come to accept that I’ve taken on no one else’s favorite as a favorite and am happy to see him in the main event, even though he was not going to win.
Who is Jeff Hardy? Trying to think of prominent fuckups but TK or Wenning seem too excessive and not a good fit. Maybe J. Casa. Nova. Uh., but Hardy is actually charismatic and likeable
Uh oh sounds like Vince is about to have his private life dragged into the public eye. That's gotta chap his leathery old ass so bad, especially since people actually still read the WSJ. Apparently he paid a staffer 3 mil in hush money, can't wait to hear all the sordid saggy balled details.
Did anyone notice that Young Bucks were wearing Nike SB California Dunks? Thought that was a nice touch to their gear.
Glad I went to the Philly NJPW show at the ECW arena. I had a hunch that it was a training show for everyone taking part in Forbidden Door.
Glad I got to catch Will Ospreay and Killer Kross in person.
Killer Kross would be perfect for the House of Black. With Scarlet, they’d be a modern-day Army of Darkness.
Also Damian Priest is total basura. Sucks they have Finn Balor, the founder of Bullet Club, leading that crappy Judgement Day stable.
They could have done so much more with the build to this. Have some NJPW people team up with AEW Japanese stars. A mixed tag with Shida and Riho on opposing teams with two NJ guys could have been cool.
Great Muta v Malakai Black in a mist to the eyes match where they both mist each other at the same time and some how each person getting hit with mist completely enables their ability to ever make mist again. NO MORE MIST!!!!
Injuries definitely fucked this one up with Punk and Danielson out(yea I know Cole is out but that doesn't affect me cuz I don't like him aside from his entrance.) YOu know Danielson is sooooo bummed he has to sit this one out he loves strong style chops and kicks.
Am I the only one who thinks the build to Forbidden Door has been super rushed and creates a high likelihood for a mid ppv?
Am I the only one who thinks the build to Forbidden Door has been super rushed and creates a high likelihood for a mid ppv?
Expand QuoteAm I the only one who thinks the build to Forbidden Door has been super rushed and creates a high likelihood for a mid ppv?[close]
Nah I think a lot of us are in that boat. Things got funky with Punks injury and the lucha blood feud politics but I think there was always a danger of this happening to some extent. Instead of trying to cram everyone onto the already packed AEW TV they should have just done a NJPW special where they could do video promos and highlights and then actually debut the NJPW guys in ring at the PPV. I feel like that would have built just as much hype and it wouldn't have required trying to cram everything in alongside the AEW storylines. Just promote it as AEW vs NJPW to see who has the best wrestlers in the world, WCW and NJPW did some stuff like that in the early 90s and it sold all over the world.
As for it being mid.. I think that's going to depend on your expectations and what you like. It's probably going to be top notch in terms of in ring work... There's too much talent in both companies to not have at least a couple bangers. That being said, 4-5 hours of strong style spots and 20 minute wars is enough to tire out anyone. If they try to let everyone get their shit in its probably going to drag after the first few matches.
Yeah it blows my mind how WWE fucked it up with Shinsuke. He is sooooo much better than the spot he is in now.
As soon as they heel turned him the first time after losing to AJ Styles at WM it was kind of a wrap for him. He could have had a legendary feud with AJ (I've seen one of their matches from NJPW and it was so fucking good. Instead, we got Nakamura just kicking dude in the nuts a bunch of times.
I used to listen to Nakamura entrance theme to get me hypedin the mornings. So good. They purposely changed his music to make it so you couldn't really sing along to it when they turned him heel. Once the fans stopped singing, they stopped caring.
Man I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/
Expand QuoteMan I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/[close]
Oh man I didn't even know that ibushi story. That's so dumb but not at all surprising coming from the company that's currently photoshopping Sasha signs out of their broadcasts. Let's job maybe the best wrestler in the world (I really won't argue with anyone who puts Ibushi as #1) out to the fucking flim flam flash.
I got into modern NJPW via Chikara actually. My GF passed away in late 2015 and I was super depressed and just laying in bed all day and somehow stumbled across the Matt Classic (colt cabana) and Darkness Crabtree vs Sara del Ray match and the humor just struck a chord with me. I started watching King of Trios 2015 which had AJ and the Bucks representing Bullet Club and they put on a hell of a show and won the tournament. I watched it for a few months but it was harder to find English commentary uploads back then and I ended up kinda getting away from it after WWE bought AJ and tried to make their own Bullet Club.
I love those old JR and Josh Barnett shows too, if you want a blueprint for how to treat it seriously on commentary these days that's a good place to start. As far as pure modern pro wrestling goes it doesn't get much better than that era of NJPW. Have you ever seen the match where Jay White accidentally slammed a guardrail into JR and knocked him out of his chair? Barnett jumps up ready to shoot beat the fuck out of him and White runs away from him and you can tell he's shitting himself haha.
If you run into Naitch after you show him the video I want you to challenge him to a helicopter contest. Tell him to show these kids nowadays how to do a real thigh slap.
Hopefully Dynamite will be better this week. I'm wondering whether BD's announcement is going to be an injury or an angle to book the ZSJ match. I'm hyped as fuck for Penta vs Malakai Black. I know Malakai is going to win but hopefully they'll stop jobbing the lucha Bros out soon. Main event is Jericho and my tramp stamp boy Lance Archer vs Mox and Tanahashi. I'm guessing they just want to showcase Tana a little so he'll probably pin Archer but I'm hoping for some Suzuki gun shenanigans.
PS - Shaqueefster if you're ever in Pittsburgh let me know. I'll get you ripped and take you to the toy stores and on a pilgrimage to Bruno's house.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMan I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/[close]
Oh man I didn't even know that ibushi story. That's so dumb but not at all surprising coming from the company that's currently photoshopping Sasha signs out of their broadcasts. Let's job maybe the best wrestler in the world (I really won't argue with anyone who puts Ibushi as #1) out to the fucking flim flam flash.
I got into modern NJPW via Chikara actually. My GF passed away in late 2015 and I was super depressed and just laying in bed all day and somehow stumbled across the Matt Classic (colt cabana) and Darkness Crabtree vs Sara del Ray match and the humor just struck a chord with me. I started watching King of Trios 2015 which had AJ and the Bucks representing Bullet Club and they put on a hell of a show and won the tournament. I watched it for a few months but it was harder to find English commentary uploads back then and I ended up kinda getting away from it after WWE bought AJ and tried to make their own Bullet Club.
I love those old JR and Josh Barnett shows too, if you want a blueprint for how to treat it seriously on commentary these days that's a good place to start. As far as pure modern pro wrestling goes it doesn't get much better than that era of NJPW. Have you ever seen the match where Jay White accidentally slammed a guardrail into JR and knocked him out of his chair? Barnett jumps up ready to shoot beat the fuck out of him and White runs away from him and you can tell he's shitting himself haha.
If you run into Naitch after you show him the video I want you to challenge him to a helicopter contest. Tell him to show these kids nowadays how to do a real thigh slap.
Hopefully Dynamite will be better this week. I'm wondering whether BD's announcement is going to be an injury or an angle to book the ZSJ match. I'm hyped as fuck for Penta vs Malakai Black. I know Malakai is going to win but hopefully they'll stop jobbing the lucha Bros out soon. Main event is Jericho and my tramp stamp boy Lance Archer vs Mox and Tanahashi. I'm guessing they just want to showcase Tana a little so he'll probably pin Archer but I'm hoping for some Suzuki gun shenanigans.
PS - Shaqueefster if you're ever in Pittsburgh let me know. I'll get you ripped and take you to the toy stores and on a pilgrimage to Bruno's house.[close]
I got a photo with Bruno when I was a kid.
You’re in Pittsburgh? We definitely have some of the same homies…
Ok so the BD thing sucks. I wonder who they're going to get... I really hope it isn't Gargano.
Penta vs Malakai was really good as expected. I hate that the internet spoiled that one weeks ago when the stuff about Andrade came out. They really need to stop jobbing Penta out for a while..he's way too good to keep losing on TV
OH FUCK OKADAS HERE. Man this feels wrong without Kenny, I hope he's at FD somehow.
I'd let Statlander peg me and I'm not even into that. Shafir kinda sucks. If she's this green then why keep giving her TV matches
Oh shit Andrade vs Fenix on Rampage is actually going to make me watch.
OK Forbidden door is almost certainly going to be a cluster fuck. Jesus christ how many multi man matches are there?
Yeah you're right, saving him for Ibushi is probably worth it. I hope he at least like makes an appearance though, I would be fine with him interfering in that 4 way and I'll absolutely mark out if he's wearing aviators and carrying a broom.
Cesaro would be hype as fuck but I would be sooooo stoked if it was Moriarty since he's from my part of Pittsburgh. I don't know if they'd put him in a PPV match as a mystery opponent though, that seems like a popcorn fart pop waiting to happen. Objectively Cesaro is the right man for the job though, that would be a nuclear pop from the Chicago crowd.
I don't dislike Gargano, he was great on NXT but I feel like in AEW he would just get overshadowed right now.
I do like that they always book Penta strong in defeat and he's so good that he can pull it off, like how he told the back injury story from the (gorgeous) dive to the outside all the way to the end. I just want to see the dude get his flowers, he really is one of the absolute workhorses of the company. Don't think I've ever seen a bad Penta match.
For all you 30-40 somethings who want some serious nostalgia I just found some more restored ECW stuff. It's a passion project made to be as close to the originals as possible, so basically undoing all the edits that WWE made when they bought the ECW tape library. Use the archive link to check it out, and if you think it's as cool as I do then there's a mega for all the PPVs in HD and a Google doc with a bunch more links. Not sure if it's updated but they seem to work. This is basically the holy grail.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22RE-C-DUB+Project%22
https://mega.nz/folder/37QCiAKK#MnSXqE4oA3GEXD5FPiJnSQ
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1jhXN8eGz-T0udOFShp5FItx65iMNgikmuCkTdBXpeXQ/htmlview
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMan I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/[close]
Oh man I didn't even know that ibushi story. That's so dumb but not at all surprising coming from the company that's currently photoshopping Sasha signs out of their broadcasts. Let's job maybe the best wrestler in the world (I really won't argue with anyone who puts Ibushi as #1) out to the fucking flim flam flash.
I got into modern NJPW via Chikara actually. My GF passed away in late 2015 and I was super depressed and just laying in bed all day and somehow stumbled across the Matt Classic (colt cabana) and Darkness Crabtree vs Sara del Ray match and the humor just struck a chord with me. I started watching King of Trios 2015 which had AJ and the Bucks representing Bullet Club and they put on a hell of a show and won the tournament. I watched it for a few months but it was harder to find English commentary uploads back then and I ended up kinda getting away from it after WWE bought AJ and tried to make their own Bullet Club.
I love those old JR and Josh Barnett shows too, if you want a blueprint for how to treat it seriously on commentary these days that's a good place to start. As far as pure modern pro wrestling goes it doesn't get much better than that era of NJPW. Have you ever seen the match where Jay White accidentally slammed a guardrail into JR and knocked him out of his chair? Barnett jumps up ready to shoot beat the fuck out of him and White runs away from him and you can tell he's shitting himself haha.
If you run into Naitch after you show him the video I want you to challenge him to a helicopter contest. Tell him to show these kids nowadays how to do a real thigh slap.
Hopefully Dynamite will be better this week. I'm wondering whether BD's announcement is going to be an injury or an angle to book the ZSJ match. I'm hyped as fuck for Penta vs Malakai Black. I know Malakai is going to win but hopefully they'll stop jobbing the lucha Bros out soon. Main event is Jericho and my tramp stamp boy Lance Archer vs Mox and Tanahashi. I'm guessing they just want to showcase Tana a little so he'll probably pin Archer but I'm hoping for some Suzuki gun shenanigans.
PS - Shaqueefster if you're ever in Pittsburgh let me know. I'll get you ripped and take you to the toy stores and on a pilgrimage to Bruno's house.[close]
I got a photo with Bruno when I was a kid.
You’re in Pittsburgh? We definitely have some of the same homies…[close]
I have a polaroid with Nikolai Volkoff at Butler High School when I was like 10 but never met Bruno. My dad didn't like driving in the city and my mom worked like 65 hours a week so I was kind of limited to those high school and moose lodge shows most of the time. Have you ever heard of a dude called Lord Zoltan? He was at like every fucking indy mud show in Western PA and scared the shit out of me when I was young...I guess King Diamond face paint and a pair of zubaz was just a bit too much for my 9 year old self to process.
I grew up in the sticks north of here but I've lived in Oakland for about a decade now.
I fell asleep for almost all of Dynamite so I'm going to order a pizza and smoke a joint and watch it in a few minutes here.
I did one of the PPVs at a movie theater and it wasn’t bad. $25-$30 is a little easier to swallow imo
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMan I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/[close]
Oh man I didn't even know that ibushi story. That's so dumb but not at all surprising coming from the company that's currently photoshopping Sasha signs out of their broadcasts. Let's job maybe the best wrestler in the world (I really won't argue with anyone who puts Ibushi as #1) out to the fucking flim flam flash.
I got into modern NJPW via Chikara actually. My GF passed away in late 2015 and I was super depressed and just laying in bed all day and somehow stumbled across the Matt Classic (colt cabana) and Darkness Crabtree vs Sara del Ray match and the humor just struck a chord with me. I started watching King of Trios 2015 which had AJ and the Bucks representing Bullet Club and they put on a hell of a show and won the tournament. I watched it for a few months but it was harder to find English commentary uploads back then and I ended up kinda getting away from it after WWE bought AJ and tried to make their own Bullet Club.
I love those old JR and Josh Barnett shows too, if you want a blueprint for how to treat it seriously on commentary these days that's a good place to start. As far as pure modern pro wrestling goes it doesn't get much better than that era of NJPW. Have you ever seen the match where Jay White accidentally slammed a guardrail into JR and knocked him out of his chair? Barnett jumps up ready to shoot beat the fuck out of him and White runs away from him and you can tell he's shitting himself haha.
If you run into Naitch after you show him the video I want you to challenge him to a helicopter contest. Tell him to show these kids nowadays how to do a real thigh slap.
Hopefully Dynamite will be better this week. I'm wondering whether BD's announcement is going to be an injury or an angle to book the ZSJ match. I'm hyped as fuck for Penta vs Malakai Black. I know Malakai is going to win but hopefully they'll stop jobbing the lucha Bros out soon. Main event is Jericho and my tramp stamp boy Lance Archer vs Mox and Tanahashi. I'm guessing they just want to showcase Tana a little so he'll probably pin Archer but I'm hoping for some Suzuki gun shenanigans.
PS - Shaqueefster if you're ever in Pittsburgh let me know. I'll get you ripped and take you to the toy stores and on a pilgrimage to Bruno's house.[close]
I got a photo with Bruno when I was a kid.
You’re in Pittsburgh? We definitely have some of the same homies…[close]
I have a polaroid with Nikolai Volkoff at Butler High School when I was like 10 but never met Bruno. My dad didn't like driving in the city and my mom worked like 65 hours a week so I was kind of limited to those high school and moose lodge shows most of the time. Have you ever heard of a dude called Lord Zoltan? He was at like every fucking indy mud show in Western PA and scared the shit out of me when I was young...I guess King Diamond face paint and a pair of zubaz was just a bit too much for my 9 year old self to process.
I grew up in the sticks north of here but I've lived in Oakland for about a decade now.
I fell asleep for almost all of Dynamite so I'm going to order a pizza and smoke a joint and watch it in a few minutes here.[close]
If you grew up in Butler, you def knew the Panza’s.
That was a good Dynamite. I may actually order Forbidden Door now.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMan I have this cable channel that used to play old episodes of New Japan with Jim Ross on commentary and I saw some great matches that way and its really the only exposure I've had to NJPW wrestlers besides this Facebook group chat that I randomly found myself in. But I saw some banger matches from Omega, Kota Ibushi, the Jericho/Okada match, and more.
I also love the story of Kota Ibushi coming to USA and being offered the world by WWE. They wanted him to win that Cruiserweight Classic and be the face of 205 Live and he said no thanks so they had him job to fucking TJ Perkins.
Once again, I really regret not going to the New Japan tapings when they were in Tampa a few months ago.
On another note, Ric Flair has fully moved to Tampa and is regularly seen around town. I haven't run into him yet, but when I do I will be showing him my wedding video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrRlIkAGkN/[close]
Oh man I didn't even know that ibushi story. That's so dumb but not at all surprising coming from the company that's currently photoshopping Sasha signs out of their broadcasts. Let's job maybe the best wrestler in the world (I really won't argue with anyone who puts Ibushi as #1) out to the fucking flim flam flash.
I got into modern NJPW via Chikara actually. My GF passed away in late 2015 and I was super depressed and just laying in bed all day and somehow stumbled across the Matt Classic (colt cabana) and Darkness Crabtree vs Sara del Ray match and the humor just struck a chord with me. I started watching King of Trios 2015 which had AJ and the Bucks representing Bullet Club and they put on a hell of a show and won the tournament. I watched it for a few months but it was harder to find English commentary uploads back then and I ended up kinda getting away from it after WWE bought AJ and tried to make their own Bullet Club.
I love those old JR and Josh Barnett shows too, if you want a blueprint for how to treat it seriously on commentary these days that's a good place to start. As far as pure modern pro wrestling goes it doesn't get much better than that era of NJPW. Have you ever seen the match where Jay White accidentally slammed a guardrail into JR and knocked him out of his chair? Barnett jumps up ready to shoot beat the fuck out of him and White runs away from him and you can tell he's shitting himself haha.
If you run into Naitch after you show him the video I want you to challenge him to a helicopter contest. Tell him to show these kids nowadays how to do a real thigh slap.
Hopefully Dynamite will be better this week. I'm wondering whether BD's announcement is going to be an injury or an angle to book the ZSJ match. I'm hyped as fuck for Penta vs Malakai Black. I know Malakai is going to win but hopefully they'll stop jobbing the lucha Bros out soon. Main event is Jericho and my tramp stamp boy Lance Archer vs Mox and Tanahashi. I'm guessing they just want to showcase Tana a little so he'll probably pin Archer but I'm hoping for some Suzuki gun shenanigans.
PS - Shaqueefster if you're ever in Pittsburgh let me know. I'll get you ripped and take you to the toy stores and on a pilgrimage to Bruno's house.[close]
I got a photo with Bruno when I was a kid.
You’re in Pittsburgh? We definitely have some of the same homies…[close]
I have a polaroid with Nikolai Volkoff at Butler High School when I was like 10 but never met Bruno. My dad didn't like driving in the city and my mom worked like 65 hours a week so I was kind of limited to those high school and moose lodge shows most of the time. Have you ever heard of a dude called Lord Zoltan? He was at like every fucking indy mud show in Western PA and scared the shit out of me when I was young...I guess King Diamond face paint and a pair of zubaz was just a bit too much for my 9 year old self to process.
I grew up in the sticks north of here but I've lived in Oakland for about a decade now.
I fell asleep for almost all of Dynamite so I'm going to order a pizza and smoke a joint and watch it in a few minutes here.[close]
If you grew up in Butler, you def knew the Panza’s.
That was a good Dynamite. I may actually order Forbidden Door now.[close]
I think used to see one of them (I think Henry, he's the older one right?) ripping back in the day at Fr. Marinaro but most of my friends didn't skate so I've always been kind of a loner in that regard. It didn't help that I was in a "gifted" program until I was like 16 so I didn't really have a ton of friends in general (shocking, I know.)
Oakland is rad for skating. Theres a cool little DIY in that little park down on Boundary St in the hollow now. In typical hilarious Pittsburgh infrastructure fashion, what was supposed to be a tennis or basketball court or something is actually significantly sloped so you don't even have to push going in the one direction. They built a big ass bank against the fence and no one has said anything so I'm assuming the city is just letting it slide.
Im kinda 50-50 on buying this one. On one hand I do want to support the company but it seems more like the kind of show I'm going to want to watch in multiple parts. Usually after a few multiman spotfests I start to get superkick and plancha fatigue haha. With the stuff they added it's gonna be another marathon show and I'm not sure if I can make it through this time. Maybe I'll change my mind though, I'll see how I feel on Sunday.
Now that I think about it - since it’s a technical wrestler bout…it’s going to be Jonathan Gresham. Maybe be a let down name wise for some, but fills that role better than Cesaro
Expand QuoteNow that I think about it - since it’s a technical wrestler bout…it’s going to be Jonathan Gresham. Maybe be a let down name wise for some, but fills that role better than Cesaro[close]
Gresham is 5’4 and ZSJ is 6’. They don’t match up well at all. Cesaro at 6’5 is a much better matchup up with ZSJ.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNow that I think about it - since it’s a technical wrestler bout…it’s going to be Jonathan Gresham. Maybe be a let down name wise for some, but fills that role better than Cesaro[close]
Gresham is 5’4 and ZSJ is 6’. They don’t match up well at all. Cesaro at 6’5 is a much better matchup up with ZSJ.[close]
Match up in terms of being the best technical wrestlers in the world
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNow that I think about it - since it’s a technical wrestler bout…it’s going to be Jonathan Gresham. Maybe be a let down name wise for some, but fills that role better than Cesaro[close]
Gresham is 5’4 and ZSJ is 6’. They don’t match up well at all. Cesaro at 6’5 is a much better matchup up with ZSJ.[close]
Match up in terms of being the best technical wrestlers in the world[close]
Gresham’s shades of Dean Malenko for sure.
BTW, I watched NXT for the first time in ages the other night and it was horrible. Like 1995 Duke The Dumpster Droese vs Savio Vega bad.
I hope HHH takes over post-NDA main roster booking.
Expand QuoteBTW, I watched NXT for the first time in ages the other night and it was horrible. Like 1995 Duke The Dumpster Droese vs Savio Vega bad.
I hope HHH takes over post-NDA main roster booking.[close]
I get that feeling from almost all modern fed stuff. I'd honestly rather watch Duke vs Savio (was he still Kwang at that point? Hahaha) than this week's Smackdown since I at least have some nostalgic affinity for it. NXT UK seems decent enough but between AEW and watching the old stuff I still want to get through I have enough to keep me busy.
Just watched Halloween Havoc 93 with the Cactus Jack vs Vader "spin the wheel, make the deal" match. I remember watching it on an Iggle Video VHS when I was a kid but didn't remember any of the specifics so it was pretty good. Totally forgot about Rick Rude's run with big hold, but I did remember every word of his amazing "simply ravishing" theme.
Dark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.
Expand QuoteDark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.[close]
That would be sick. I think Thatch is in NOAH right now though so I'm not sure how that would work with it being an NJPW show, but I know Japanese promotion relations are nowhere near as bitter as they used to be so maybe it could work, especially if he's technically a freelancer.
I actually set an alarm for Rampage tonight haha. I seriously can't wait for Andrade vs Fenix, two of the best luchadors in the world (and two of my favorite guys in the company) being given a showcase because they can't be on the PPV... I hope they're going to want to remind everyone what they're missing out on. Pretty sure it's going on first, someone said they're going to stream the entrances on YouTube. Let's go boys.
Does NJPW need AEW?
or does AEW need NJPW?
Expand QuoteDark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.[close]
That would be sick. I think Thatch is in NOAH right now though so I'm not sure how that would work with it being an NJPW show, but I know Japanese promotion relations are nowhere near as bitter as they used to be so maybe it could work, especially if he's technically a freelancer.
I actually set an alarm for Rampage tonight haha. I seriously can't wait for Andrade vs Fenix, two of the best luchadors in the world (and two of my favorite guys in the company) being given a showcase because they can't be on the PPV... I hope they're going to want to remind everyone what they're missing out on. Pretty sure it's going on first, someone said they're going to stream the entrances on YouTube. Let's go boys.
Edit: Holy fuck Fenix is unbelievable, that stalled springboard dropkick was just beautiful and Andrade might be one of the best at continuing to sell while getting in position for the next spot. Glad they gave them a full 20 and despite the overbooked finish I enjoyed it but I'm pretty fucking biased. Dear Tony, please give the Lucha Bros some wins.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.[close]
That would be sick. I think Thatch is in NOAH right now though so I'm not sure how that would work with it being an NJPW show, but I know Japanese promotion relations are nowhere near as bitter as they used to be so maybe it could work, especially if he's technically a freelancer.
I actually set an alarm for Rampage tonight haha. I seriously can't wait for Andrade vs Fenix, two of the best luchadors in the world (and two of my favorite guys in the company) being given a showcase because they can't be on the PPV... I hope they're going to want to remind everyone what they're missing out on. Pretty sure it's going on first, someone said they're going to stream the entrances on YouTube. Let's go boys.
Edit: Holy fuck Fenix is unbelievable, that stalled springboard dropkick was just beautiful and Andrade might be one of the best at continuing to sell while getting in position for the next spot. Glad they gave them a full 20 and despite the overbooked finish I enjoyed it but I'm pretty fucking biased. Dear Tony, please give the Lucha Bros some wins.[close]
If that match doesn’t get a Meltzer 5-star…
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.[close]
That would be sick. I think Thatch is in NOAH right now though so I'm not sure how that would work with it being an NJPW show, but I know Japanese promotion relations are nowhere near as bitter as they used to be so maybe it could work, especially if he's technically a freelancer.
I actually set an alarm for Rampage tonight haha. I seriously can't wait for Andrade vs Fenix, two of the best luchadors in the world (and two of my favorite guys in the company) being given a showcase because they can't be on the PPV... I hope they're going to want to remind everyone what they're missing out on. Pretty sure it's going on first, someone said they're going to stream the entrances on YouTube. Let's go boys.
Edit: Holy fuck Fenix is unbelievable, that stalled springboard dropkick was just beautiful and Andrade might be one of the best at continuing to sell while getting in position for the next spot. Glad they gave them a full 20 and despite the overbooked finish I enjoyed it but I'm pretty fucking biased. Dear Tony, please give the Lucha Bros some wins.[close]
If that match doesn’t get a Meltzer 5-star…[close]
Haha he probably will just because he's an AEW mark but in all honesty I'd give it 4. For as good as that was I'm confident they could do better. Lucha Underground and some of the early AEW Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks/omega, SCU, and private party stuff really opened my eyes to how high the ceiling is for Fenix. The fucked up part is I always assumed they didn't push him because of the language barrier, but he's actually easier to understand than Andrade and he seems to be just fine cutting a promo in English.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDark horse opponent for ZSJ… Timothy Thatcher.
That would be sick.[close]
That would be sick. I think Thatch is in NOAH right now though so I'm not sure how that would work with it being an NJPW show, but I know Japanese promotion relations are nowhere near as bitter as they used to be so maybe it could work, especially if he's technically a freelancer.
I actually set an alarm for Rampage tonight haha. I seriously can't wait for Andrade vs Fenix, two of the best luchadors in the world (and two of my favorite guys in the company) being given a showcase because they can't be on the PPV... I hope they're going to want to remind everyone what they're missing out on. Pretty sure it's going on first, someone said they're going to stream the entrances on YouTube. Let's go boys.
Edit: Holy fuck Fenix is unbelievable, that stalled springboard dropkick was just beautiful and Andrade might be one of the best at continuing to sell while getting in position for the next spot. Glad they gave them a full 20 and despite the overbooked finish I enjoyed it but I'm pretty fucking biased. Dear Tony, please give the Lucha Bros some wins.[close]
If that match doesn’t get a Meltzer 5-star…[close]
Haha he probably will just because he's an AEW mark but in all honesty I'd give it 4. For as good as that was I'm confident they could do better. Lucha Underground and some of the early AEW Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks/omega, SCU, and private party stuff really opened my eyes to how high the ceiling is for Fenix. The fucked up part is I always assumed they didn't push him because of the language barrier, but he's actually easier to understand than Andrade and he seems to be just fine cutting a promo in English.[close]
Death Triangle is great. AEW does stables well for the most part. Only complaint is the lack of cohesiveness.
And speaking of stables, why did Brian Cage come back unheralded looking like a jabroni in Tully’s new stable?
So I've heard that Cage is not well liked backstage by some of the people in power (and by many accounts he is in fact an arrogant meathead), plus there was the shit with his wife last time around. I think I remember something about people don't want to work with him because he's unsafe as well but that might have been someone else. He was also probably trying to get more money but he has no real negotiating power since he's so juiced up even Vince won't touch him
He's kind of the same thing as Luchasaurus I guess... If you put him with someone charismatic and just let him do hot tags and high spots he's fine but I don't think he's going to get over on his own. He seems to have hit a hard ceiling at the "spot monkey" stage of development haha. He did, somehow, look even bigger during that promo though. I would love to see him take a piss test just for lols.
Expand QuoteSo I've heard that Cage is not well liked backstage by some of the people in power (and by many accounts he is in fact an arrogant meathead), plus there was the shit with his wife last time around. I think I remember something about people don't want to work with him because he's unsafe as well but that might have been someone else. He was also probably trying to get more money but he has no real negotiating power since he's so juiced up even Vince won't touch him
He's kind of the same thing as Luchasaurus I guess... If you put him with someone charismatic and just let him do hot tags and high spots he's fine but I don't think he's going to get over on his own. He seems to have hit a hard ceiling at the "spot monkey" stage of development haha. He did, somehow, look even bigger during that promo though. I would love to see him take a piss test just for lols.[close]
Yeah seems tailor made for WWE, but they even fucked up Karrion Kross and Scarlett who are seemed perfect for them.
I remember seeing some Young Bucks IG the west coast wrestlers at a diner and Cage had a bowl of like 10 hard boiled eggs he was working through and it made me laugh. (Also I think he’s a right winger with no redeemable talent qualities to offset those views)
Eh, I'm on the Wardlow bandwagon ever since the face of the revolution and Punk matches. They've done a great job of masking his shortcomings and accentuating what he does well. It's going to be interesting to see where he ends up without MJF because there's definitely a shelf life to a gimmick that boils down to "Ryback, but cool". He's another one that you can see Vince getting the meat sweats just thinking about too.
I understand both positions on the Swerve thing. The angle is kinda treading water so maybe this will be the implosion, or they may save it for after FD. I don't really mind since the card is so packed as is, although Swerve vs Despe could be interesting.
Expand QuoteEh, I'm on the Wardlow bandwagon ever since the face of the revolution and Punk matches. They've done a great job of masking his shortcomings and accentuating what he does well. It's going to be interesting to see where he ends up without MJF because there's definitely a shelf life to a gimmick that boils down to "Ryback, but cool". He's another one that you can see Vince getting the meat sweats just thinking about too.
I understand both positions on the Swerve thing. The angle is kinda treading water so maybe this will be the implosion, or they may save it for after FD. I don't really mind since the card is so packed as is, although Swerve vs Despe could be interesting.[close]
I feel like MJF carried that feud. MJF is my favorite wrestler on the AEW roster and the character I find most relatable.
I was at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam in Queens and got lots of dirty looks for cheering for MJF and chanting “Let’s go jobber” at Brian Pillman Jr (His dad is still one of my top 5 performers of all-time).
I love Swerve’s psychotic trap rapper/producer gimmick. I wish they’d bring Hit Row back, that was a great stable.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteEh, I'm on the Wardlow bandwagon ever since the face of the revolution and Punk matches. They've done a great job of masking his shortcomings and accentuating what he does well. It's going to be interesting to see where he ends up without MJF because there's definitely a shelf life to a gimmick that boils down to "Ryback, but cool". He's another one that you can see Vince getting the meat sweats just thinking about too.
I understand both positions on the Swerve thing. The angle is kinda treading water so maybe this will be the implosion, or they may save it for after FD. I don't really mind since the card is so packed as is, although Swerve vs Despe could be interesting.[close]
I feel like MJF carried that feud. MJF is my favorite wrestler on the AEW roster and the character I find most relatable.
I was at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam in Queens and got lots of dirty looks for cheering for MJF and chanting “Let’s go jobber” at Brian Pillman Jr (His dad is still one of my top 5 performers of all-time).
I love Swerve’s psychotic trap rapper/producer gimmick. I wish they’d bring Hit Row back, that was a great stable.[close]
Oh if you go back a few pages you'll see how high I am on MJF. He's absolutely the most talented promo we've seen in decades and if he keeps it up he's going down with Flair, Piper, and Jake as an all timer in that regard. I am a complete and utter mark as soon as I hear his music hit and if this whole pipe bomb thing does end up with him winning the belt it's going down as one of the best storylines I've ever experienced.
MJF unquestionably carried the story, but I thought Wardlow played his part very well and I actually legit popped when he jumped up on the ladder to powerbomb Starks, though he kinda kid gloved the actual slam unfortunately. He reminds me of Batista and I'm sure that's not an accident because every time he does a shoot interview he talks about how much he loves the man attached to the most talked about dick in wrestling (at least until Joey Ryan came along! Hi-yooo! ). He needs to slow down a little bit and get some more experience but I think there's something there.
You should talk to our resident babyface champ @SHAQUEEFA about Flyin' Brian, that's one of his boys too. He even has cincy colored Zubaz pants, and he seems like the kinda dude who would wear them to family functions. I watched superbrawl 2 the other night and had totally forgotten that Pillman vs Jushin Thunder Liger was the opener. That match was at least 5 years ahead of its time and its kind of hilarious that it goes from that to like Van Hammer and fucking Tom Zenk (who the fuck thought z-man was a good nickname? might as well have called him khum) against Ricky Morton and Kevin Nash in a suit, which looked like something that a 5 year old would have with his wrestling buddy.
Swerve is fucking awesome in the ring and very easy to cheer against. Have you ever seen his stuff as Killshot in Lucha Underground? There's a wild ass deathmatch against AR fox that actually tells a really good story and was responsible for that scar you see on his back nowadays.
“He’s a pro wrestler and not a sports entertainer.”
Hah I don’t think there’s enough weight you can put on to stop a concussion though
https://socalskateshop.com/Deathwish-Darby-Allin-Guest-Collab-Gold-Deathspray-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-5.html#!?cc_decks=124827&c=cc_grip-tape
Anyone else getting one?
Expand Quotehttps://socalskateshop.com/Deathwish-Darby-Allin-Guest-Collab-Gold-Deathspray-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-5.html#!?cc_decks=124827&c=cc_grip-tape
Anyone else getting one?[close]
I thought about it, but I grabbed a Skate Mental instead. Maybe if it’s still at that shop next time I walk in.
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Anyone else getting one?[close]
I thought about it, but I grabbed a Skate Mental instead. Maybe if it’s still at that shop next time I walk in.[close]
I have a couple SM decks. I don't care if Staaba is a kook I'm always going to have some affinity for a company that makes juvenile humor a core part of their identity haha.
I actually prefer short 8.25s and I've skated the deathwish shape a few times so this is perfect, although I'm probably just going to look at it for now. Their mold is pretty steep (especially ones from the top of the stack) and I have old legs so I have to really be feeling it to get going but I would have skated the shit out of them if they were around when I was a kid. The birdhouse 8.25 is still better though.
And Yuta vs Daniel Garcia feud is starting to pick up as seen on dark
Also, all you sky blue fans, surprised you haven’t been talking more about Ashley d’amboise
And Yuta vs Daniel Garcia feud is starting to pick up as seen on dark
Also, all you sky blue fans, surprised you haven’t been talking more about Ashley d’amboise
Expand QuoteAnd Yuta vs Daniel Garcia feud is starting to pick up as seen on dark
Also, all you sky blue fans, surprised you haven’t been talking more about Ashley d’amboise[close]
I love how IWC marks hate on Garcia so much. I’m a fan of the guy, even if I do call his current stable the Jobber Appreciation Society.
He’s the Aurelien Giraud of professional wrestling.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnd Yuta vs Daniel Garcia feud is starting to pick up as seen on dark
Also, all you sky blue fans, surprised you haven’t been talking more about Ashley d’amboise[close]
I love how IWC marks hate on Garcia so much. I’m a fan of the guy, even if I do call his current stable the Jobber Appreciation Society.
He’s the Aurelien Giraud of professional wrestling.[close]
People shit on him? For what? I occasionally check r/squaredcircle and some of the news sites but I really kinda avoid paying too much attention to the smarks. Despite the fact my very first bookmark when I got the internet in 1998 was a wrestling site, I just can't willingly group myself with some of those people haha. I do have a dvdvr account from decades ago when I bought a bunch of ECW and deathmatch tapes (actual VHS tapes because I'm old) but I haven't posted in years.
Someone in this thread recommended listening to Garcia on Jericho's podcast and it made me really like the guy. He definitely gets it. The only thing I can think of to knock him would be his look but hes like early 20s and still growing into his body. The Kangol just cracks me up and he works like a proper old school "legit but chickenshit" type.
I tried to watch Raw again. And I actually genuinely wanted to watch it this time. I made it about a minute into the battle royal and had to turn it off because of the camera cuts. Seriously, how do people watch that shit?
Just got back from Blood and Guts and god damn was it a blast. Wanted to share an angle I got of Sammy’s dive with you:
https://hostingandshizz.tumblr.com/post/688455325374906368
Oh I don't mind it either, I love that shit. Wrestling is so ridiculous in a lot of ways and that's why it's fun. I don't necessarily want guys taking czw bumps on free shows either (especially with how the Jeff Hardy thing played out) but as long as it's Sammy I'm down with it.
Haha Dyingtoliveasaurus looks cool, I just have no real faith in him wrestling interesting singles matches. Maybe he's gotten better at it since LU but he's one of those dudes who I feel like struggles in longer, less choreographed matches. I think he'll be fine and maybe even really good against Hungle Boy because they've been training together for ages but I feel like it could be ugly if he has to be the one to lead the match or work with guys he doesn't know. You could have said all the same things about the undertaker in 1991 though, so it's entirely possible I'm way off on this and he ends up being awesome.
I was giggling at Moxley climbing like broken foot taker too. Gotta lay off them post match lung darts Mox! It had to be awkward celebrating while Daddy Magic and Jericho were still up there selling too.
I kinda want to google the winner but you've actually intrigued me now so I'm not going to. I actually would be cool with it being someone from the lower/mid card that they want to book to hang with Mox and look good the same way they did with Yuta. As long as it's not KOR, Scorpio Sky, or setting up another Lucha Bros main event loss.. Then I'll definitely be pissed haha. I have no idea who was in it so I'm not sure who to pick from but someone like 10 who could have a hoss fight with him would be really cool. I'm assuming they want a heel though so my dark horse pick is..... Lance Archer. Trent would be cool too, but again there's the heel issue. Ok I'm going with Archer or Ten. Give me some beef baby.
Expand QuoteOh I don't mind it either, I love that shit. Wrestling is so ridiculous in a lot of ways and that's why it's fun. I don't necessarily want guys taking czw bumps on free shows either (especially with how the Jeff Hardy thing played out) but as long as it's Sammy I'm down with it.
Haha Dyingtoliveasaurus looks cool, I just have no real faith in him wrestling interesting singles matches. Maybe he's gotten better at it since LU but he's one of those dudes who I feel like struggles in longer, less choreographed matches. I think he'll be fine and maybe even really good against Hungle Boy because they've been training together for ages but I feel like it could be ugly if he has to be the one to lead the match or work with guys he doesn't know. You could have said all the same things about the undertaker in 1991 though, so it's entirely possible I'm way off on this and he ends up being awesome.
I was giggling at Moxley climbing like broken foot taker too. Gotta lay off them post match lung darts Mox! It had to be awkward celebrating while Daddy Magic and Jericho were still up there selling too.
I kinda want to google the winner but you've actually intrigued me now so I'm not going to. I actually would be cool with it being someone from the lower/mid card that they want to book to hang with Mox and look good the same way they did with Yuta. As long as it's not KOR, Scorpio Sky, or setting up another Lucha Bros main event loss.. Then I'll definitely be pissed haha. I have no idea who was in it so I'm not sure who to pick from but someone like 10 who could have a hoss fight with him would be really cool. I'm assuming they want a heel though so my dark horse pick is..... Lance Archer. Trent would be cool too, but again there's the heel issue. Ok I'm going with Archer or Ten. Give me some beef baby.[close]
I’ll spoil it enough to say it’s not Archer. They’ve had enough battles recently that it wouldn’t be novel for me, but you’re definitely onto something hoss wise
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh I don't mind it either, I love that shit. Wrestling is so ridiculous in a lot of ways and that's why it's fun. I don't necessarily want guys taking czw bumps on free shows either (especially with how the Jeff Hardy thing played out) but as long as it's Sammy I'm down with it.
Haha Dyingtoliveasaurus looks cool, I just have no real faith in him wrestling interesting singles matches. Maybe he's gotten better at it since LU but he's one of those dudes who I feel like struggles in longer, less choreographed matches. I think he'll be fine and maybe even really good against Hungle Boy because they've been training together for ages but I feel like it could be ugly if he has to be the one to lead the match or work with guys he doesn't know. You could have said all the same things about the undertaker in 1991 though, so it's entirely possible I'm way off on this and he ends up being awesome.
I was giggling at Moxley climbing like broken foot taker too. Gotta lay off them post match lung darts Mox! It had to be awkward celebrating while Daddy Magic and Jericho were still up there selling too.
I kinda want to google the winner but you've actually intrigued me now so I'm not going to. I actually would be cool with it being someone from the lower/mid card that they want to book to hang with Mox and look good the same way they did with Yuta. As long as it's not KOR, Scorpio Sky, or setting up another Lucha Bros main event loss.. Then I'll definitely be pissed haha. I have no idea who was in it so I'm not sure who to pick from but someone like 10 who could have a hoss fight with him would be really cool. I'm assuming they want a heel though so my dark horse pick is..... Lance Archer. Trent would be cool too, but again there's the heel issue. Ok I'm going with Archer or Ten. Give me some beef baby.[close]
I’ll spoil it enough to say it’s not Archer. They’ve had enough battles recently that it wouldn’t be novel for me, but you’re definitely onto something hoss wise[close]
Damn. Ok no more spoilers, I feel like I'm going to be able to figure it out during the match but that's part of the fun of rumbles.
That may have been wishful thinking because I'm so high on Archer. He's another dude I really want to see get his flowers on a big stage. When I was in the military there was this one channel that randomly showed TNA in the middle of the night and I fucking HATED his shitty guitar hero gimmick. If you've ever watched OSW review, they still call him Tramp Stamp Hoyt because that was the only thing memorable about him back then. He was like a less talented version of Test. I'm not sure what happened in Japan to make it click but I legit think he's one of the best at working big guys in the company now. Even I can't believe I'm about to make this comparison but he reminds me of Taker sometimes and not just because they both do tightrope spots.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh I don't mind it either, I love that shit. Wrestling is so ridiculous in a lot of ways and that's why it's fun. I don't necessarily want guys taking czw bumps on free shows either (especially with how the Jeff Hardy thing played out) but as long as it's Sammy I'm down with it.
Haha Dyingtoliveasaurus looks cool, I just have no real faith in him wrestling interesting singles matches. Maybe he's gotten better at it since LU but he's one of those dudes who I feel like struggles in longer, less choreographed matches. I think he'll be fine and maybe even really good against Hungle Boy because they've been training together for ages but I feel like it could be ugly if he has to be the one to lead the match or work with guys he doesn't know. You could have said all the same things about the undertaker in 1991 though, so it's entirely possible I'm way off on this and he ends up being awesome.
I was giggling at Moxley climbing like broken foot taker too. Gotta lay off them post match lung darts Mox! It had to be awkward celebrating while Daddy Magic and Jericho were still up there selling too.
I kinda want to google the winner but you've actually intrigued me now so I'm not going to. I actually would be cool with it being someone from the lower/mid card that they want to book to hang with Mox and look good the same way they did with Yuta. As long as it's not KOR, Scorpio Sky, or setting up another Lucha Bros main event loss.. Then I'll definitely be pissed haha. I have no idea who was in it so I'm not sure who to pick from but someone like 10 who could have a hoss fight with him would be really cool. I'm assuming they want a heel though so my dark horse pick is..... Lance Archer. Trent would be cool too, but again there's the heel issue. Ok I'm going with Archer or Ten. Give me some beef baby.[close]
I’ll spoil it enough to say it’s not Archer. They’ve had enough battles recently that it wouldn’t be novel for me, but you’re definitely onto something hoss wise[close]
Damn. Ok no more spoilers, I feel like I'm going to be able to figure it out during the match but that's part of the fun of rumbles.
That may have been wishful thinking because I'm so high on Archer. He's another dude I really want to see get his flowers on a big stage. When I was in the military there was this one channel that randomly showed TNA in the middle of the night and I fucking HATED his shitty guitar hero gimmick. If you've ever watched OSW review, they still call him Tramp Stamp Hoyt because that was the only thing memorable about him back then. He was like a less talented version of Test. I'm not sure what happened in Japan to make it click but I legit think he's one of the best at working big guys in the company now. Even I can't believe I'm about to make this comparison but he reminds me of Taker sometimes and not just because they both do tightrope spots.
I was out of town so i missed Forbidden Door. Real bummed on that. Can someone send me a link?
I thought I was good to go to make it until the end of Blood and Guts last night. I got real cocky when the BNG match started and I hadn't dozed off yet. So I went ahead and took a giant bong rip and put up the foot rest and reclined my lazyboy. BIG MISTAKE! I missed it. Wifey tried to wake me up for two things. Tay "The Culo" Conti rolling around on the ground with her ass out, and Sammy taking the big bump.
You really don't know what love is until your wife wakes you up and says "Babe, wake up! Tay's ass is completely out"
God I love that woman.
Yeah I definitely turned her into a fan.
I hadn't watched for a very long time and one night I was flipping channels and was just like "You know what babe, we're going to watch Monday Night Raw tonight. She obviously was not psyched but it happened to be a night a bunch of crazy shit happened. It was the night Rollins turned on the Shield, Bray Wyatt was in his big feud with Cena when he had the kids in the sheeps masks surrounding the ring singing he;s got the whole world in his hands, and some other shit. Obviously as a woman, she was drawn to the relationship/soap opera storylines that were pretty prevalent during that time. She was just like "Oh so this is a soap opera with fights? I'm in"
She hasn't turned back and now has actual formulated opinions on people's work rate and skills. She is one to also go down Wikipedia rabbit holes so she will come out with some crazy factoids every now and then.
Expand QuoteJust got back from Blood and Guts and god damn was it a blast. Wanted to share an angle I got of Sammy’s dive with you:
https://hostingandshizz.tumblr.com/post/688455325374906368[close]
That’s a rad angle. Really shows the size of the drop. How is it watching things through the cage for an hour?
That crowd was so hot at the beginning of the show I could barely hear the commentators!
Anyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.
Expand QuoteAnyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.[close]
It’s Jefferson Starship. From what I heard, he actually used that song pre-AEW and it’s a reference to its use in Wet Hot American Summer, as Paul Rudd’s character in it is the inspiration for Orange Cassidy.
Expand QuoteAnyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.[close]
It’s Jefferson Starship. From what I heard, he actually used that song pre-AEW and it’s a reference to its use in Wet Hot American Summer, as Paul Rudd’s character in it is the inspiration for Orange Cassidy.
Ftr are too hot to pull that move. I prefer the bucks like you, but FTR are huge faces (plus I think they want Bucks free for Trios belt when Omega returns)
Love the Jane move came after the Osprey match as that really felt like OC leveled up in peoples eyes. Thought the Wet Hot connection was just a coincidence but I totally get the Paul Rudd character connection now
Good timing on MJF to disappear. Left the focus on other stuff and I kinda forgot about him. When he returns, it’s gonna be huge. I wonder if it will work out for him to screw Punk out of the title
Also, did anyone read the article in SI this week about a bunch of people realizing that the Rocks dad (Rocky Johnson) was their dad too
Expand QuoteGood timing on MJF to disappear. Left the focus on other stuff and I kinda forgot about him. When he returns, it’s gonna be huge. I wonder if it will work out for him to screw Punk out of the title
Also, did anyone read the article in SI this week about a bunch of people realizing that the Rocks dad (Rocky Johnson) was their dad too[close]
No, but that's kinda hilarious. Was he just travelling around the country knocking women up like the Dudley Boyz origin story? Guess we know why Rocky didn't stay in one territory too long now haha.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGood timing on MJF to disappear. Left the focus on other stuff and I kinda forgot about him. When he returns, it’s gonna be huge. I wonder if it will work out for him to screw Punk out of the title
Also, did anyone read the article in SI this week about a bunch of people realizing that the Rocks dad (Rocky Johnson) was their dad too[close]
No, but that's kinda hilarious. Was he just travelling around the country knocking women up like the Dudley Boyz origin story? Guess we know why Rocky didn't stay in one territory too long now haha.[close]
Hah basically throughout the Canadian territories. That Dudley connection is hilarious.
https://www.si.com/wrestling/2022/06/30/rocky-johnson-the-rock-daily-cover
Survivor Series really should be the Bloodline vs the Love Children
Austin Theory’s facial hair will always make him a heel in my book. He has such a Cheddar Bob energy to me.
Cash-ins are so stupid. Need to just be established as the Summerslam Main Event the way RR feeds Wrestlemania. Congrats on finally getting the top belt and doing it with the least integrity possible! And it’s celebrated! Imagine if that ever happened in boxing or MMA.
I will say Satnam seems to have heaps more personality than Omos or Khali. Not saying he has a ton of personality, but what he displays is more than those two
Haven't watched any of the other matches yet. Bobby did you get to see Big Satty Cool in person? I can't remember if you said if you watched the dark matches or not.
Anyone watch Control Your Narrative yet?
Expand QuoteHaven't watched any of the other matches yet. Bobby did you get to see Big Satty Cool in person? I can't remember if you said if you watched the dark matches or not.[close]
Aw man I got there shortly after his match ended and I’m bummed about it. Partially because I want to see how fuckin’ huge that guy looks in person but mostly because the dudes he beat are local guys I watch live all the time, Ren “Swag Champ” Jones being one of my favorites.
On that note, I’m not sure I ever brought it up in here but I go to a local indie show called Sanctuary Fight Club every month. It’s at a punk/hardcore/metal venue where the ceiling is about 4 feet over the top rope and all the wrestlers are legitimately great. Their championship belt is always held under falls count anywhere rules and they always use the whole venue each time. It’s a blast. Ren Jones once accidentally suicidad a woman standing right next to me there.
Here’s a little recap they made of the last show I saw there:
http://www.instagram.com/tv/CcTqty3jEFh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Expand QuoteYeah I definitely turned her into a fan.
I hadn't watched for a very long time and one night I was flipping channels and was just like "You know what babe, we're going to watch Monday Night Raw tonight. She obviously was not psyched but it happened to be a night a bunch of crazy shit happened. It was the night Rollins turned on the Shield, Bray Wyatt was in his big feud with Cena when he had the kids in the sheeps masks surrounding the ring singing he;s got the whole world in his hands, and some other shit. Obviously as a woman, she was drawn to the relationship/soap opera storylines that were pretty prevalent during that time. She was just like "Oh so this is a soap opera with fights? I'm in"
She hasn't turned back and now has actual formulated opinions on people's work rate and skills. She is one to also go down Wikipedia rabbit holes so she will come out with some crazy factoids every now and then.[close]
Hey dude no offense but can I take your wife on a date?
Seriously that's so cool. I've always described it to non fans as "a soap opera for men" and I'm huge on the Wikipedia wormholes. You should show her the infamous dvdvr sleaze thread that Tony started when he was in college... It's only partially archived sadly but there's more than enough ridiculous shit to keep her (and any other fan) entertained for a while. Ring the Damn Bell's "wrestling with sin" articles are great too, kinda like a shitty blog version of dark side of the ring.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050308041405/http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=19896&view=all
https://ringthedamnbell.wordpress.com/category/wrestling-with-sin/
Watching the rumble right now. Going off Atiba's hints I'm thinking it's gotta be Hobbs or The Butcher. OK Hobbs is gone.. Wait no way, Brody! I'm definitely cool with that and the elimination spot was SICK. Looked like someone subduing their little brother who was throwing a tantrum. He's the kind of meaty sweat hog that I'm totally down to watch fight Mox. Actually I'm kind of pumped. Let's get some big boy energy up in here!
Yoshi Hashi still looks like he just sprinted a mile to see his favorite ninja turtle, Donatello. Really good match though, reminded me of a bullet club bucks match, which I guess makes sense haha.
Marina Shafir sucks and so did that main event. I'd be a liar if I said I didn't slightly enjoy Nyla choking and fish hooking a screaming Toni Storm though.
Anyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.
Expand QuoteAnyone watch Control Your Narrative yet?[close]
Hahaha. Nah.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHaven't watched any of the other matches yet. Bobby did you get to see Big Satty Cool in person? I can't remember if you said if you watched the dark matches or not.[close]
Aw man I got there shortly after his match ended and I’m bummed about it. Partially because I want to see how fuckin’ huge that guy looks in person but mostly because the dudes he beat are local guys I watch live all the time, Ren “Swag Champ” Jones being one of my favorites.
On that note, I’m not sure I ever brought it up in here but I go to a local indie show called Sanctuary Fight Club every month. It’s at a punk/hardcore/metal venue where the ceiling is about 4 feet over the top rope and all the wrestlers are legitimately great. Their championship belt is always held under falls count anywhere rules and they always use the whole venue each time. It’s a blast. Ren Jones once accidentally suicidad a woman standing right next to me there.
Here’s a little recap they made of the last show I saw there:
http://www.instagram.com/tv/CcTqty3jEFh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[close]
Yo that place looks rad. Indy bar wrestling definitely teaches you how to connect with the audience in a really cool way. I would totally go see a show there. We have IWC who are more of a traditional northeast high school gym indy fed so you can imagine what kind of crowd that draws. There's a lot of very nice but very fuckin awkward people haha.
Satnam wrestled on dark again. The jobber was like "fuck this shit I'm not taking that bump" and grabbed on when he picked him up for the Ric Flair bomb so the man called Singh just gave him a pretty fucking gnarly looking powerbomb instead. He looked really pissed about it and Jay Lethal was cracking up after the match. Totally worth checking out if you haven't already seen it. He also does a big boot and I had to laugh because he like barely picks his leg up and hes at head level.
Also I always forget about this guy but Bear Boulder is kind of cool. He's got that classic big man build (John Tenta, Vader, Tugboat/shockmaster etc) and moves pretty well. He's not amazing or anything but he can run the ropes and seems like he has a bunch of strongman spots. He's vanilla as fuck right now but put him in a silent hulking monster role like Braun and I bet he would get over Braun did.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah I definitely turned her into a fan.
I hadn't watched for a very long time and one night I was flipping channels and was just like "You know what babe, we're going to watch Monday Night Raw tonight. She obviously was not psyched but it happened to be a night a bunch of crazy shit happened. It was the night Rollins turned on the Shield, Bray Wyatt was in his big feud with Cena when he had the kids in the sheeps masks surrounding the ring singing he;s got the whole world in his hands, and some other shit. Obviously as a woman, she was drawn to the relationship/soap opera storylines that were pretty prevalent during that time. She was just like "Oh so this is a soap opera with fights? I'm in"
She hasn't turned back and now has actual formulated opinions on people's work rate and skills. She is one to also go down Wikipedia rabbit holes so she will come out with some crazy factoids every now and then.[close]
Hey dude no offense but can I take your wife on a date?
Seriously that's so cool. I've always described it to non fans as "a soap opera for men" and I'm huge on the Wikipedia wormholes. You should show her the infamous dvdvr sleaze thread that Tony started when he was in college... It's only partially archived sadly but there's more than enough ridiculous shit to keep her (and any other fan) entertained for a while. Ring the Damn Bell's "wrestling with sin" articles are great too, kinda like a shitty blog version of dark side of the ring.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050308041405/http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=19896&view=all
https://ringthedamnbell.wordpress.com/category/wrestling-with-sin/
Watching the rumble right now. Going off Atiba's hints I'm thinking it's gotta be Hobbs or The Butcher. OK Hobbs is gone.. Wait no way, Brody! I'm definitely cool with that and the elimination spot was SICK. Looked like someone subduing their little brother who was throwing a tantrum. He's the kind of meaty sweat hog that I'm totally down to watch fight Mox. Actually I'm kind of pumped. Let's get some big boy energy up in here!
Yoshi Hashi still looks like he just sprinted a mile to see his favorite ninja turtle, Donatello. Really good match though, reminded me of a bullet club bucks match, which I guess makes sense haha.
Marina Shafir sucks and so did that main event. I'd be a liar if I said I didn't slightly enjoy Nyla choking and fish hooking a screaming Toni Storm though.
Anyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.[close]
Yes. I found a real winner. Appreciate the sentiment, but you can not take her out. If you ever find yourself in Tampa though, we will take you out. I'm gonna try hard to not smoke too much before 8pm tonight. Really make a go at staying up until 10.
WOW!
So much bad in that video.
Sid was just awful. He fell on his own move. HAHHAHA
And man, if I were the skyscrapers, Mr. Blackwell would have gotten his ass kicked in the locker room for the no-selling he did. He popped right up after every move with no look of pain. Even the finish!
I'll never forget the Sid promo where he tries to start over and Mean Gene has to tell him they are live. His look and character should really be one of the all time greats but he was just so bad at wrestling.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah I definitely turned her into a fan.
I hadn't watched for a very long time and one night I was flipping channels and was just like "You know what babe, we're going to watch Monday Night Raw tonight. She obviously was not psyched but it happened to be a night a bunch of crazy shit happened. It was the night Rollins turned on the Shield, Bray Wyatt was in his big feud with Cena when he had the kids in the sheeps masks surrounding the ring singing he;s got the whole world in his hands, and some other shit. Obviously as a woman, she was drawn to the relationship/soap opera storylines that were pretty prevalent during that time. She was just like "Oh so this is a soap opera with fights? I'm in"
She hasn't turned back and now has actual formulated opinions on people's work rate and skills. She is one to also go down Wikipedia rabbit holes so she will come out with some crazy factoids every now and then.[close]
Hey dude no offense but can I take your wife on a date?
Seriously that's so cool. I've always described it to non fans as "a soap opera for men" and I'm huge on the Wikipedia wormholes. You should show her the infamous dvdvr sleaze thread that Tony started when he was in college... It's only partially archived sadly but there's more than enough ridiculous shit to keep her (and any other fan) entertained for a while. Ring the Damn Bell's "wrestling with sin" articles are great too, kinda like a shitty blog version of dark side of the ring.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050308041405/http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=19896&view=all
https://ringthedamnbell.wordpress.com/category/wrestling-with-sin/
Watching the rumble right now. Going off Atiba's hints I'm thinking it's gotta be Hobbs or The Butcher. OK Hobbs is gone.. Wait no way, Brody! I'm definitely cool with that and the elimination spot was SICK. Looked like someone subduing their little brother who was throwing a tantrum. He's the kind of meaty sweat hog that I'm totally down to watch fight Mox. Actually I'm kind of pumped. Let's get some big boy energy up in here!
Yoshi Hashi still looks like he just sprinted a mile to see his favorite ninja turtle, Donatello. Really good match though, reminded me of a bullet club bucks match, which I guess makes sense haha.
Marina Shafir sucks and so did that main event. I'd be a liar if I said I didn't slightly enjoy Nyla choking and fish hooking a screaming Toni Storm though.
Anyone else think OCs new theme is a fucking banger? It sounds like an unreleased ELO song.[close]
Yes. I found a real winner. Appreciate the sentiment, but you can not take her out. If you ever find yourself in Tampa though, we will take you out. I'm gonna try hard to not smoke too much before 8pm tonight. Really make a go at staying up until 10.[close]
Hahaha dude you for sure did, and so did she. I'll return the offer if you're ever in Pittsburgh!
I have major dental surgery coming up and took yesterday off because I had an appointment so I totally forgot today was Wednesday.
Just checked the card for tonight and holy shit we get Wardlow vs Scorpio Sky for the TNT title! I really, really hope they pull the trigger on a title change if for no other reason than they need to get the belt off Sky before he kills it completely. I'm sorry Tony, I know he's you and the bucks' boy but he's just not that good. He's only ever gotten over by proxy, first with teaming with some of the most respected wrestlers of the indy generation and then by letting Dan Lambert talk for him and that weird couple of weeks where people cheered him just because he was wrestling Sammy.
We're also getting Mox vs Brody, let's see if Mox blades from a body slam this week. Christian will also be cutting a turtleneck promo on Hungle Boy which is fun.
I usually try to take a nap when I get home but Im home by 230 most days so I have a lot of time to kill. It also doesn't always work haha. As long as I'm not smoking like some super indica powerhouse I can usually make it the whole 2 hours, but I have my strain lineup pretty well dialed in right now.
I listened to the OC theme in the shower this morning. It really is a great tune haha.
Hahahaha I love that Spivey shoot squash. What the fuck was Lodi's dad thinking?
I always remember Dr. Death breaking Steve Ray in half and Saturn trying to kill Mike Bell. I'm trying to think of other ones... Koji Kitao trying to eye gouge Earthquake, backing down because he knew he couldnt win straight up, and then getting on the mic and exposing the business in Japan was notable at one point. I know I'm missing a few others.
Expand QuoteHahahaha I love that Spivey shoot squash. What the fuck was Lodi's dad thinking?
I always remember Dr. Death breaking Steve Ray in half and Saturn trying to kill Mike Bell. I'm trying to think of other ones... Koji Kitao trying to eye gouge Earthquake, backing down because he knew he couldnt win straight up, and then getting on the mic and exposing the business in Japan was notable at one point. I know I'm missing a few others.[close]
Koko shooting on this jobber.
https://youtu.be/0KmTdsLMyG0 (https://youtu.be/0KmTdsLMyG0)
Acolytes vs Public Enemy mugging
https://youtu.be/wSarumsUqWk (https://youtu.be/wSarumsUqWk)
Great Sasuke vs Dirt Bike Kid
https://youtu.be/kBtTeNoSYro (https://youtu.be/kBtTeNoSYro)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHahahaha I love that Spivey shoot squash. What the fuck was Lodi's dad thinking?
I always remember Dr. Death breaking Steve Ray in half and Saturn trying to kill Mike Bell. I'm trying to think of other ones... Koji Kitao trying to eye gouge Earthquake, backing down because he knew he couldnt win straight up, and then getting on the mic and exposing the business in Japan was notable at one point. I know I'm missing a few others.[close]
Koko shooting on this jobber.
https://youtu.be/0KmTdsLMyG0 (https://youtu.be/0KmTdsLMyG0)
Acolytes vs Public Enemy mugging
https://youtu.be/wSarumsUqWk (https://youtu.be/wSarumsUqWk)
Great Sasuke vs Dirt Bike Kid
https://youtu.be/kBtTeNoSYro (https://youtu.be/kBtTeNoSYro)[close]
Oh my god I forgot how awesome Sasuke vs dirtbag skid is. Sasuke is a fucking legend, show some respect you fucking chav.
There's also Akira Maeda kicking the everloving fuck out of Riki Choshu while hes putting someone in a sharpshooter from old new Japan but the one I knew I was forgetting is one of the funniest ones - The great Antonio vs Antonio Inoki. Inoki just has enough of his shit and goes straight into pimp beatdown mode.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19xyfr
The Acolyte - Public Enemy mugging was great since it involved one of my all-time favorite wrestlers who was legitimately feared backstage…and JBL too.
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The Acolyte - Public Enemy mugging was great since it involved one of my all-time favorite wrestlers who was legitimately feared backstage…and JBL too.[close]
Part of my recent obsession with late 80s-early 90's WCW PPVs and supercards has been getting to truly appreciate prime Ron Simmons. First with Doom, where they did an unmasking angle as if everyone couldn't tell who the two ridiculously jacked black dudes doing powerslams were, and then his eventual title run.
I know he eventually found a niche but man the fed fucked his booking up so bad. Remember the ridiculous gladiator gimmick? Vince really had a fetish for muscly dudes dressed up as Romans back in the 90s didn't he?
Also had the only spinebuster that I would put in the same class as Arn.
Fuck JBL.
Wifey loves her some Hangman, but she refuses to scissor me. Even when i say "Scissor me phatty ass!!!!!" She fucking hates it but it pops me so hard.
Do any of you guys collect wrestling shit? I'd love to see some sick displays. I'll take some photos of my shit to post as well. My prized wrestling possession is probably a carded OG New Jack ECW figure that he signed for me maybe a month before he died. He was the scariest gentlemen I ever met.
RAW is in Tampa next week and I'm debating heavily if I even want to go. Could probably get in free. Last year at Wrestlemania I hung out afterwards with my rolling rack and about 50 wrestling tees. Ended up making enough money for a nice little post Wrestlemania strip club visit. I'll probably just do that and save myself the agony of actually having to watch an entire RAW.
I popped huge for the straight punch to the dick by Danhausen instead of the usual uppercut thru the legs or "inner thigh shot" as Jericho called it in his book.
Tony Neese really impressed me with his selling of the 3x dots I knew he could work but he made it look phenomenal, I wish it finished the match
Full disclosure I'm not a wrestling guy so maybe this is already known - but at the recent NHL draft the head coach of the Canucks, Bruce Boudreau, was set up to meet one of his favorite wrestlers and his reaction and their chat was so damn cute/fun/joyful. Not sure if this would have got any airplay in the States so here's a link with a vid embedded (also has a quick clip of him being asked about wresting during an NHL interview).How genuine his reaction. Kevin owens seems very down to earth. Haha dudes coworkers seemed to downplay his true passion and he’s just stuck as an NHL commentator as a job.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/bruce-boudreau-shocked-to-meet-favourite-wrestler-at-nhl-draft-205845115.html
Have a great weekend everyone.
Full disclosure I'm not a wrestling guy so maybe this is already known - but at the recent NHL draft the head coach of the Canucks, Bruce Boudreau, was set up to meet one of his favorite wrestlers and his reaction and their chat was so damn cute/fun/joyful. Not sure if this would have got any airplay in the States so here's a link with a vid embedded (also has a quick clip of him being asked about wresting during an NHL interview).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/bruce-boudreau-shocked-to-meet-favourite-wrestler-at-nhl-draft-205845115.html
Have a great weekend everyone.
Expand QuoteFull disclosure I'm not a wrestling guy so maybe this is already known - but at the recent NHL draft the head coach of the Canucks, Bruce Boudreau, was set up to meet one of his favorite wrestlers and his reaction and their chat was so damn cute/fun/joyful. Not sure if this would have got any airplay in the States so here's a link with a vid embedded (also has a quick clip of him being asked about wresting during an NHL interview).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/bruce-boudreau-shocked-to-meet-favourite-wrestler-at-nhl-draft-205845115.html
Have a great weekend everyone.[close]
Hahahaha this is awesome. Thanks. Boudreau impressions and jokes were the hottest thing around Pittsburgh for a while after the Pens vs Caps 24/7 so this is hilarious. There was like a month where you couldn't mention donuts or ice cream without a bunch of high pitched fucks thrown in.
Love KO. I know you said you're not a wrestling guy, but I assume you're aware of Stone Cold Steve Austin and how big of a deal he is? This is the guy who he chose to come out of retirement to wrestle at this year's Wrestlemania and they put on a match that was far better than it had any right to be.
Is there any examples of a jobber shooting on a big dog? I always felt bad for those guys…..
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFull disclosure I'm not a wrestling guy so maybe this is already known - but at the recent NHL draft the head coach of the Canucks, Bruce Boudreau, was set up to meet one of his favorite wrestlers and his reaction and their chat was so damn cute/fun/joyful. Not sure if this would have got any airplay in the States so here's a link with a vid embedded (also has a quick clip of him being asked about wresting during an NHL interview).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/bruce-boudreau-shocked-to-meet-favourite-wrestler-at-nhl-draft-205845115.html
Have a great weekend everyone.[close]
Hahahaha this is awesome. Thanks. Boudreau impressions and jokes were the hottest thing around Pittsburgh for a while after the Pens vs Caps 24/7 so this is hilarious. There was like a month where you couldn't mention donuts or ice cream without a bunch of high pitched fucks thrown in.
Love KO. I know you said you're not a wrestling guy, but I assume you're aware of Stone Cold Steve Austin and how big of a deal he is? This is the guy who he chose to come out of retirement to wrestle at this year's Wrestlemania and they put on a match that was far better than it had any right to be.[close]
Yep, I know SCSA, but didn't know he still was in the business - as now he's doing laundry commercials (albeit clever ones).
Bruce Boudreau just seems like an all around awesome guy. Glad you got a kick out of the clip.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteFull disclosure I'm not a wrestling guy so maybe this is already known - but at the recent NHL draft the head coach of the Canucks, Bruce Boudreau, was set up to meet one of his favorite wrestlers and his reaction and their chat was so damn cute/fun/joyful. Not sure if this would have got any airplay in the States so here's a link with a vid embedded (also has a quick clip of him being asked about wresting during an NHL interview).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/bruce-boudreau-shocked-to-meet-favourite-wrestler-at-nhl-draft-205845115.html
Have a great weekend everyone.[close]
Hahahaha this is awesome. Thanks. Boudreau impressions and jokes were the hottest thing around Pittsburgh for a while after the Pens vs Caps 24/7 so this is hilarious. There was like a month where you couldn't mention donuts or ice cream without a bunch of high pitched fucks thrown in.
Love KO. I know you said you're not a wrestling guy, but I assume you're aware of Stone Cold Steve Austin and how big of a deal he is? This is the guy who he chose to come out of retirement to wrestle at this year's Wrestlemania and they put on a match that was far better than it had any right to be.[close]
Yep, I know SCSA, but didn't know he still was in the business - as now he's doing laundry commercials (albeit clever ones).
Bruce Boudreau just seems like an all around awesome guy. Glad you got a kick out of the clip.[close]
Hahaha SCSA isn't really in the business proper anymore, but one of the interesting things about his career was that no one really knew that his match against the Rock at Wrestlemania 03 was going to be his last match. He was pretty much forced into retirement by neck problems and didn't get the flowers and tears send-off he deserved.
Coming into this year's Wrestlemania it was believed that his neck is still pretty fucked and WWE was deliberately vague about his appearance (they only advertised it as a "segment with Stone Cold") so even up to the night of the match there was a sizeable part of the crowd that didn't believe he was actually going to wrestle. When he walked through the curtain and everyone realized that he was wearing his knee braces and thus likely to get physical the crowd went absolutely bonkers. Even at that point I think most of us were expecting him to do a couple stunners, drink some beers, ask for a few hell yeahs, and call it day. What we got was a full 10 minute throwback to the attitude era, complete with a brawl through the crowd, and some of the most fun I've had watching wrestling.
Do any of you guys collect wrestling shit? I'd love to see some sick displays. I'll take some photos of my shit to post as well. My prized wrestling possession is probably a carded OG New Jack ECW figure that he signed for me maybe a month before he died. He was the scariest gentlemen I ever met.
RAW is in Tampa next week and I'm debating heavily if I even want to go. Could probably get in free. Last year at Wrestlemania I hung out afterwards with my rolling rack and about 50 wrestling tees. Ended up making enough money for a nice little post Wrestlemania strip club visit. I'll probably just do that and save myself the agony of actually having to watch an entire RAW.
Since you all were talking about Stone Cold I've got to drop what is my probably biggest wrestling flex. The first live wrestling show I got to see in person was KOTR 96 where Austin won and cut the first Austin 3:16 promo. I was 11 and did yard work to make money and buy two tickets at $15 a pop for my dad and I to go.
Orange vs Wardlow is a must watch tonight bc I can’t figure how they book it. (If this was WWE I know how they’d do it)
Also, cool that the Mid Atlantic belt looks like a traveling belt to be defended in different promotions
I watched RAW the other night and didn’t realize just how bad it got.
Damian Priest is awful and the Bloodline is stale.
Anyone catch the A&E specials?
Expand QuoteI watched RAW the other night and didn’t realize just how bad it got.
Damian Priest is awful and the Bloodline is stale.
Anyone catch the A&E specials?[close]
Every time I try to watch raw or SD I'm just baffled by how people watch it. I guess a lot of their crowd is either kids too young to know or remember there's alternatives out there or older/more boomerish folks who resist change in any form. Last time I saw one of those ratings with the demo breakdowns there was a really surprising amount of retiree aged fans.
Haven't watched any of the bios except part of the Foley one. It's definitely puffball but I still enjoyed what I saw.
Isn’t it refreshing Wardlow doesn’t use the spear
I'll be your Keith Lee. Hit me up if you ever having trouble.
I took some photos of my wrestling collection yesterday, I'll get them up soon.
Fell asleep during the entrances to the Claudio/ Hager match.
Even though I like Swerve/Lee, I just think Young Bucks should be dominating right now to set up a big match with FTR. Maybe a "four corners tag title belts on a pole match" with a set of tag titles on a ten foot pole in each corner. The match wouldn't be over until all four sets of belts are retrieved. It could get kinda fucky but it could end with each team with two sets of belts that sets up a final battle for all the gold.
Expand QuoteI'll be your Keith Lee. Hit me up if you ever having trouble.
I took some photos of my wrestling collection yesterday, I'll get them up soon.
Fell asleep during the entrances to the Claudio/ Hager match.
Even though I like Swerve/Lee, I just think Young Bucks should be dominating right now to set up a big match with FTR. Maybe a "four corners tag title belts on a pole match" with a set of tag titles on a ten foot pole in each corner. The match wouldn't be over until all four sets of belts are retrieved. It could get kinda fucky but it could end with each team with two sets of belts that sets up a final battle for all the gold.[close]
Aww thanks dude thats actually cool as hell of you.
I kinda feel you about the Bucks, but I have a feeling they basically just booked themselves into the spot the Hardys were supposed to be in (basically transitional champions) after the Jeff thing and as much as I hate to say it I feel like giving the belts to Keith and Swerve is a sympathy move so Keith can take the belt home to his sick friend. I have to imagine that FTR knock off the Briscoes and then somehow circle back around to the bucks to set up the showdown match.
I know people are clamoring for Starks and Hobbs too but I feel like it's not their time yet. If they get the belts now they'll hold them for like 2 weeks.
I'm pretty pumped for this barbed wire match. The last one was good up until the botched explosion and I feel like they'll try to top it. I'm sure Jericho has some elaborate but super safe spot like jumping onto an airbag planned.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'll be your Keith Lee. Hit me up if you ever having trouble.
I took some photos of my wrestling collection yesterday, I'll get them up soon.
Fell asleep during the entrances to the Claudio/ Hager match.
Even though I like Swerve/Lee, I just think Young Bucks should be dominating right now to set up a big match with FTR. Maybe a "four corners tag title belts on a pole match" with a set of tag titles on a ten foot pole in each corner. The match wouldn't be over until all four sets of belts are retrieved. It could get kinda fucky but it could end with each team with two sets of belts that sets up a final battle for all the gold.[close]
Aww thanks dude thats actually cool as hell of you.
I kinda feel you about the Bucks, but I have a feeling they basically just booked themselves into the spot the Hardys were supposed to be in (basically transitional champions) after the Jeff thing and as much as I hate to say it I feel like giving the belts to Keith and Swerve is a sympathy move so Keith can take the belt home to his sick friend. I have to imagine that FTR knock off the Briscoes and then somehow circle back around to the bucks to set up the showdown match.
I know people are clamoring for Starks and Hobbs too but I feel like it's not their time yet. If they get the belts now they'll hold them for like 2 weeks.
I'm pretty pumped for this barbed wire match. The last one was good up until the botched explosion and I feel like they'll try to top it. I'm sure Jericho has some elaborate but super safe spot like jumping onto an airbag planned.[close]
I keep thinking they’ll find a way to do a Bucks FTR Briscos 3 way match, but maybe there is t that history there
Apparently they couldn’t do a winner takes all bc they don’t really have the say so when it comes to the Mexican belts
I hear you on rampage although I’d counter with 1.5 hr for each show.
Private Party are in need of something. They’re kinda stagnating. They got that huge win over the Young Bucks in that first year and then they’ve kinda fizzled as the roster has filled out. Can’t blame the Hardy Office on them, but that’s likely a lot of they’re cooling off
Hahah or chopsticks sped up on a piano
ROH PPV shaping up nicely. Claudio winning title belt?
Update: one of those Observer guys was hypothesizing that Claudio is basically just being slotted in where Bryan Danielson was supposed to be and they haven’t changed any story to accommodate. Facing ZSJ then Gresham was supposed to be “the best technica wrestler” storyline for BD
Yep, you nailed it. Podcaster, married Ric Flair's daughter (obv not Charlotte), and does mortgages.
Expand QuoteYep, you nailed it. Podcaster, married Ric Flair's daughter (obv not Charlotte), and does mortgages.[close]
Is he seemingly a good dude or a shill?
Did anyone see how they opened RAW last night? Sent Titus out there to do some classic Vince McMahon written promos about how great WWE is and how everyone needs to be nice and how WWE does all this charity work. Basically a huge fluff for WWE to try and make the fans forget what's happening with Vince.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNalOV-ORBQ&t=9s
Thanks for the heads up - never heard anything bad about Conrad but was curious if he was a Ryan Satin level of disreputable access-chaser
Anyone watching G1 Climax?
Jeff Cobb is my new favorite wrestler now that HBK’s retired.
OK guys! Real excited for Dynamite tonight and will try to stay awake for the barb wire match.
I took some photos of my collection. I'd love to see some others. I really want to get all the Hasbros so if you have ones I don't have and want to trade for some of my non Hasbro stuff, shoot me a message.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgPrHVNpvj3/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgPrmTjJv2g/
Expand QuoteThanks for the heads up - never heard anything bad about Conrad but was curious if he was a Ryan Satin level of disreputable access-chaser[close]
I guess there's probably some parallels but the fact that he focuses so much on the classics and indys rather than just the fed makes me think he's in it more for love of wrestling than a weird social climbing or attention seeking thing like Satin. I don't listen to enough Conrad podcasts to consider myself super knowledgeable about him though, our resident cheek merchant SHAQUEEFA may have more insight.
Just semi-watched Dark (was on the phone for part of it). Pretty average episode but you do get Danhausen, Takeshita, the man Taz occasionally calls Wheela Yooter, and the highlight of the show for me was Jay Lethal as usual. There's also an ECW joke/reference in the women's tag match that got a full pop from me
There was also a new chick called J-Rod who looked like she could be something. She's tall and athletic and honestly she looked better than Mercedes at times. She also had a severe case of her ass trying to eat her trunks, so that was fun too.
@Bobby Peru your boy Ren was on again
Tonight is gonna be a banger.
- Varsity Blondes vs Christian and Luchasaurus
- Brody vs Darby is almost guaranteed to have some disgusting spots
- BCC vs Best Friends
- and of course Barbed Wire Everywhere..
No Wardlow but I did hear something about him bringing back the TNT title open challenge.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the heads up - never heard anything bad about Conrad but was curious if he was a Ryan Satin level of disreputable access-chaser[close]
I guess there's probably some parallels but the fact that he focuses so much on the classics and indys rather than just the fed makes me think he's in it more for love of wrestling than a weird social climbing or attention seeking thing like Satin. I don't listen to enough Conrad podcasts to consider myself super knowledgeable about him though, our resident cheek merchant SHAQUEEFA may have more insight.
Just semi-watched Dark (was on the phone for part of it). Pretty average episode but you do get Danhausen, Takeshita, the man Taz occasionally calls Wheela Yooter, and the highlight of the show for me was Jay Lethal as usual. There's also an ECW joke/reference in the women's tag match that got a full pop from me
There was also a new chick called J-Rod who looked like she could be something. She's tall and athletic and honestly she looked better than Mercedes at times. She also had a severe case of her ass trying to eat her trunks, so that was fun too.
@Bobby Peru your boy Ren was on again
Tonight is gonna be a banger.
- Varsity Blondes vs Christian and Luchasaurus
- Brody vs Darby is almost guaranteed to have some disgusting spots
- BCC vs Best Friends
- and of course Barbed Wire Everywhere..
No Wardlow but I did hear something about him bringing back the TNT title open challenge.[close]
I hope Darby and Brody is the new Darby Ethan Page (they did some gnarly shit in MLW).
Anyone have opinion on the Renegade Twins on the Dark shows. Been hear others hype them up but I haven’t really gotten around to catching up on the YouTube shows
Thanks man, I've worked real hard on it. Once again, wifey allowing this type of behavior is a main reason i put a ring on it. Really amped up my hasbro collection during COVID because I was able to keep my job, get all the stimulus checks, and was killing it at online poker.
Nikolai Volkoff was a thrift store find and my homie found the TNA poster at a flea market and bought it for me for $30. Also notice it is signed by every guy on it. Some fucking LEGENDS on there.
I met Horowitz at the same meet and greet that New Jack was at. Out of all the dudes there, 3 men got my money. New Jack, Horowitz and fucking Virgil. For some reason, me and my dad always loved Barry. We would always pat each other on the back before his matches and be like "this is the one! He's gotta win this one!" I told him I remembered when he finally won a match and he laughed. He told me he had a pretty decent record at house shows but just got dogged on TV.
I also showed wifey a few old Virgil matches and then explained the "lonely Virgil" meme and she got really sad for him. His commentary on the Ted DiBiase shit is hilarious.
The key not working made me laugh out loud on in wrasslin
It is funny that Sammy fucked his image over with the whole Tay Conti personal life stuff.
Expand QuoteIt is funny that Sammy fucked his image over with the whole Tay Conti personal life stuff.[close]
What is it exactly that happened here again? I think I have the gist of it but I’m not sure. Sammy cheated on his real life girlfriend with Tay Conti and then was an asshole to her on Twitter or something?
Expand QuoteIt is funny that Sammy fucked his image over with the whole Tay Conti personal life stuff.[close]
What is it exactly that happened here again? I think I have the gist of it but I’m not sure. Sammy cheated on his real life girlfriend with Tay Conti and then was an asshole to her on Twitter or something?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt is funny that Sammy fucked his image over with the whole Tay Conti personal life stuff.[close]
What is it exactly that happened here again? I think I have the gist of it but I’m not sure. Sammy cheated on his real life girlfriend with Tay Conti and then was an asshole to her on Twitter or something?[close]
I think it’s just that Sammy had a very normal looking girlfriend that he featured on his vlog and had been together with for a long time and then does a big proposal thing on tv for her and then after that she disappears from the vlog and “pretty” tay starts featuring more and more and then it becomes apparent that he’s left his gf and now Sammy and tay are that gross couple that are joined at the hip PDAing everywhere (which is now their gimmick) and he’s engaged to Tay now.
Edit: you explained it better than me. It’s very 1st wife, 2nd wife of any musician’s biopic
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt is funny that Sammy fucked his image over with the whole Tay Conti personal life stuff.[close]
What is it exactly that happened here again? I think I have the gist of it but I’m not sure. Sammy cheated on his real life girlfriend with Tay Conti and then was an asshole to her on Twitter or something?[close]
I think it’s just that Sammy had a very normal looking girlfriend that he featured on his vlog and had been together with for a long time and then does a big proposal thing on tv for her and then after that she disappears from the vlog and “pretty” tay starts featuring more and more and then it becomes apparent that he’s left his gf and now Sammy and tay are that gross couple that are joined at the hip PDAing everywhere (which is now their gimmick) and he’s engaged to Tay now.
Edit: you explained it better than me. It’s very 1st wife, 2nd wife of any musician’s biopic[close]
Tay was married too.
Also, Sammy has punchable face so that adds to it.
I think I may shell out for the ROH ppv at home. It’s too hot to go anywhere here.
Holy shit Vince just announced his retirement. Something big must be coming
Expand QuoteHoly shit Vince just announced his retirement. Something big must be coming[close]
https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1550572700959121408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1550572700959121408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
I hope to God HHH takes over booking.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHoly shit Vince just announced his retirement. Something big must be coming[close]
https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1550572700959121408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://mobile.twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1550572700959121408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
I hope to God HHH takes over booking.[close]
Full statement
https://mobile.twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1550575567900123139?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Yeah so apparently Steph and Nick Khan are taking over. Which means Vince is still calling the shots. Maybe they bring HHH back to creative, but I'm not holding my breath on anything changing until Vince is either dead or Snukafied and living in a home. My conspiracy theory is there's either more WSJ shit coming or Steph just convinced him to do this and he's planning to come back in a few months "when it all blows over pal".
I have a funny feeling this is going to be like when Russo was very obviously writing for TNA and Dixie denied it for months until she fucked up and forwarded the wrong email or something.
Looks like Brock left too. Raw on Monday is going to be an interesting one.
I didn't watch Smackdown last night, but apparently Brock came back at the end of the show?
Something big must be happening later if they just made the ROH championship the opening match.
Expand QuoteI didn't watch Smackdown last night, but apparently Brock came back at the end of the show?[close]
Yeah. Rumor on the smark boards is that Vince called or texted him and got him to go back and finish the storyline (I'm sure money was involved). Don't know how much truth there is in that, but some of the sheets are also reporting they're thinking about bringing in Goldberg to replace him at Summerslam. I guess we'll find out but from what I gather it sounds the plan now is finish the storyline at the PPV and then he's done.Expand QuoteSomething big must be happening later if they just made the ROH championship the opening match.[close]
I don't get why Tony does that. He books his second biggest match as his opener all the time. This makes sense to me if Joe and Lethal go on last given their history and importance to the promotion but I'm going to be annoyed if they do like an hour tag in front of a dead crowd for the main, regardless of how hot FTR are right now.
Edit: as soon as I posted that Lethals music hit. Fuck me.
Hahahaha Jimmy Wang Yuta...im stealing that. Hell of a match by the kids. Garcia is really fucking good, he definitely gets the business and his psychology and pacing are far beyond his years. Btw Jimmy Wang Yang is actually an awesome dude by all regards. Dude was really good in the ring and he's mentoring his daughter Jazzy who's apparently a bit of a prodigy as well.
Castle and the boys was a lil clusterfucky but its all about the entrance and theatrics. Loooove that dude.
Gresham and Claudio was really good. I still don't really agree with it but if you're gonna do it then that's the right way.
I don't really like Mercedes and Deeb being married to Marty Scurll while cutting promos about perverts in wrestling is still super weird to me but it was a good match.
The pop Joe got when he won is what should have closed the show. Lethal is legit like post hiatus Shawn Michaels level in terms of consistently making his opponent look good. I really liked the story with them jumping him before the bell and I'll be damned if Satnam Singh doesn't seem to be turning into a real pro wrestler before our eyes. He already seems to get it better than Kali ever did.
I always struggle to get past what carny trash the Briscoes are. They look like the result of the bushwackers doubling up on some meth head after a show in one of the territories. That bell shot was legit though.
Danielson vs Garcia on Dynamite. That will be rad
The Lit nerd in me just realizes how much I want Virgil to manage Dante just for the 5 people that would appreciate the Inferno reference
Expand QuoteHahahaha Jimmy Wang Yuta...im stealing that. Hell of a match by the kids. Garcia is really fucking good, he definitely gets the business and his psychology and pacing are far beyond his years. Btw Jimmy Wang Yang is actually an awesome dude by all regards. Dude was really good in the ring and he's mentoring his daughter Jazzy who's apparently a bit of a prodigy as well.
Castle and the boys was a lil clusterfucky but its all about the entrance and theatrics. Loooove that dude.
Gresham and Claudio was really good. I still don't really agree with it but if you're gonna do it then that's the right way.
I don't really like Mercedes and Deeb being married to Marty Scurll while cutting promos about perverts in wrestling is still super weird to me but it was a good match.
The pop Joe got when he won is what should have closed the show. Lethal is legit like post hiatus Shawn Michaels level in terms of consistently making his opponent look good. I really liked the story with them jumping him before the bell and I'll be damned if Satnam Singh doesn't seem to be turning into a real pro wrestler before our eyes. He already seems to get it better than Kali ever did.
I always struggle to get past what carny trash the Briscoes are. They look like the result of the bushwackers doubling up on some meth head after a show in one of the territories. That bell shot was legit though.[close]
Cash Wheeler said it best…Enzo on meth.
Is Marty Scurll finished? He was on the rise for quite a bit. I know Deeb dated Marty for a bit. Not sure if they’re still together. She doesn’t seem to have facial features.
Expand QuoteDanielson vs Garcia on Dynamite. That will be rad
The Lit nerd in me just realizes how much I want Virgil to manage Dante just for the 5 people that would appreciate the Inferno reference[close]
I always appreciated The Authors of Pain’s names being a nod to Occam’s Razor.
Also The Eliminators names being a bit to Roman and Greek Mythology.
RAW tonight should be a good one.
Expand QuoteRAW tonight should be a good one.[close]
I’ve hated WWE and everything about it (NXT was Macmahon free for a time and was free on Hulu) that it will be hard to ever actually foresee going back to it as a viewer.
Agreed. The announcer style is what truly ruins WWE for me. I did like Mauro (unpopular opinion I know) and Nigel as a team, but TAz and Excalibur when they’re goofing off is def my favorite
Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan will forever be my favorites. Their comedic timing was untouchable.
I really like it when Jericho gets in the booth and calls matches, he will have a place in wrestling until the day he dies. When they were running the empty arena he did such a great job filling in when needed. The shit with "Pineapple Pete" was hilarious and actually led to some unknown guy getting a little shine and a good match with Jericho.
People talking shit on Jericho for beating Kingston, but that man has been instrumental in getting a lot of dudes over and cementing big moments in important stories in the company. Him being the first champ was real smart. It brought instant credibilty to that belt and set up Hangman for one of the longest running stories in all of pro wrestling.
And all of the inner circle vignettes they did during quarantine were just funny as fuck.
Before AEW i liked him, but now he in my Mt. Rushmore. Truly a GOAT.
Admittedly weird opinion but I think Taz/Cole is an underrated commentator team. I watched some Smackdowns from 2003 recently and they were clearly having a lot of fun taking shots at each other throughout that period.
Expand QuoteAdmittedly weird opinion but I think Taz/Cole is an underrated commentator team. I watched some Smackdowns from 2003 recently and they were clearly having a lot of fun taking shots at each other throughout that period.[close]
That's a good oddball one. Like I said I thought Taz sucked back in the day, but that was mostly just me being bitter about the demise of ECW and hating anyone that wasn't King/JR. With the passage of time and gaining perspective I can say he's always been a solid commentator.
He didn't do much commentary, but I feel like the "Quintessential Stud Muffin" Joel Gertner doesn't get the love he deserves. His innuendo and one liners were legendary, dude was smart as shit (he was a legit ivy league law student) but just wanted to make pussy and dick jokes and that really resonated with me for obvious reasons haha. He was also a big part of that absolutely nuclear heat that the Dudley's had for a while there.
I also didn’t know that Tully Blanchard left AEW/ROH and that Jonathan Gresham asked for his release and is apparently done with wrestling for a while.
I also didn’t know that Tully Blanchard left AEW/ROH and that Jonathan Gresham asked for his release and is apparently done with wrestling for a while.
I saw HHH heads up creative for all WWE now. This should be good.
Wonder who he’ll poach from AEW…
Also, I hope he brings back most of the released talent, especially Killer Kross and Bray.
Expand QuoteI saw HHH heads up creative for all WWE now. This should be good.
Wonder who he’ll poach from AEW…
Also, I hope he brings back most of the released talent, especially Killer Kross and Bray.[close]
I have a feeling that Vince still has more say than anyone is letting on. HHH is still his son and law and he still owns 83% of the company and using it as inheritance blackmail is definitely something Vince would do.
Bringing Bray back seems like a very real possibility but I don't know if he wants to come back for less money. He was making a LOT in his last contract. Kross and Scarlett I think are pretty over the fed after they fucked him up the first time.
Tonight’s Dynamite was the showcase of the future. I absolutely loved Garcia going over on Danielson. He needed that win more than the American Dragon did. This episode was to Hook, Dante, and Garcia what Hockey X was to Diego and Campos.
I've been going on a couple trips around Canada lately and haven't been able to watch AEW for a couple weeks. Watching the latest dynamite on tape and I actually found myself appreciating Sammy and Tay they are the annoying couple that everyone hates. I think it needs a tweak in some way... idk if making them fight and show cracks in the realationship or if making them try to be less outright annoying but still be annoying. It's missing something
Missed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.
Missed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
Expand QuoteMissed Dynamite. Watched highlights on YouTube. After that Dark Order promo a few weeks ago where Uno claimed "We aren't going anywhere" I'm pretty bummed they just moved Anna Jay to JAS for no real reason. Like now they have 6 dudes and two women in a stable. That's way too much.
Jobhausen leading into Hook was pretty sick.[close]
6 guys and 2 women in a stable is shades of Kevin Sullivan’s Army of Darkness from the Florida territory back in the day.
One of those women was Woman herself. The other was Luna Vachon.
I have nothing better to do than watch Summerslam but I still don't know if I will. I wish the Flair thing was tonight and SS was tomorrow.
Yes, I'd rather watch Ric Flair wrestle with a pacemaker than I would the 3rd biggest WWE PPV.
Alright, I watched the Becky and Bianca match. Even with the camera cuts and awful commentary, comparing that to the Anna Jay vs Ruby match from Rampage is night and day. AEW has a loooong way to go before their women are on this level. Becky might be top 5 wrestlers (of any gender) of this generation. She's so fucking good. Reminds me of a female Jericho in that you could give her anything and she'll get it over.
I have nothing better to do than watch Summerslam but I still don't know if I will. I wish the Flair thing was tonight and SS was tomorrow.
Yes, I'd rather watch Ric Flair wrestle with a pacemaker than I would the 3rd biggest WWE PPV.
Alright, I watched the Becky and Bianca match. Even with the camera cuts and awful commentary, comparing that to the Anna Jay vs Ruby match from Rampage is night and day. AEW has a loooong way to go before their women are on this level. Becky might be top 5 wrestlers (of any gender) of this generation. She's so fucking good. Reminds me of a female Jericho in that you could give her anything and she'll get it over.
I'm so fucking pumped about this. I'm at a concert but saw it on IG between sets. Psyched that Bayley is back, more than anything. Was scared that Io was going to leave WWE after not seeing her on NXT for a minute, so happy she's on the main roster. And Dakota is also great.Expand QuoteI have nothing better to do than watch Summerslam but I still don't know if I will. I wish the Flair thing was tonight and SS was tomorrow.
Yes, I'd rather watch Ric Flair wrestle with a pacemaker than I would the 3rd biggest WWE PPV.
Alright, I watched the Becky and Bianca match. Even with the camera cuts and awful commentary, comparing that to the Anna Jay vs Ruby match from Rampage is night and day. AEW has a loooong way to go before their women are on this level. Becky might be top 5 wrestlers (of any gender) of this generation. She's so fucking good. Reminds me of a female Jericho in that you could give her anything and she'll get it over.[close]
Bayley, Shirai, and Dakota Kai? HHH’s impact already being felt.
I'm so fucking pumped about this. I'm at a concert but saw it on IG between sets. Psyched that Bayley is back, more than anything. Was scared that Io was going to leave WWE after not seeing her on NXT for a minute, so happy she's on the main roster. And Dakota is also great.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have nothing better to do than watch Summerslam but I still don't know if I will. I wish the Flair thing was tonight and SS was tomorrow.
Yes, I'd rather watch Ric Flair wrestle with a pacemaker than I would the 3rd biggest WWE PPV.
Alright, I watched the Becky and Bianca match. Even with the camera cuts and awful commentary, comparing that to the Anna Jay vs Ruby match from Rampage is night and day. AEW has a loooong way to go before their women are on this level. Becky might be top 5 wrestlers (of any gender) of this generation. She's so fucking good. Reminds me of a female Jericho in that you could give her anything and she'll get it over.[close]
Bayley, Shirai, and Dakota Kai? HHH’s impact already being felt.[close]
Expand QuoteI have nothing better to do than watch Summerslam but I still don't know if I will. I wish the Flair thing was tonight and SS was tomorrow.
Yes, I'd rather watch Ric Flair wrestle with a pacemaker than I would the 3rd biggest WWE PPV.
Alright, I watched the Becky and Bianca match. Even with the camera cuts and awful commentary, comparing that to the Anna Jay vs Ruby match from Rampage is night and day. AEW has a loooong way to go before their women are on this level. Becky might be top 5 wrestlers (of any gender) of this generation. She's so fucking good. Reminds me of a female Jericho in that you could give her anything and she'll get it over.[close]
That’s fair but I’d compare Anna Jay to NXT wrestlers. She’s only like 21 or 22. Becky’s been doing this for like 15 years
Complete matches i missed due to falling asleep:
Lashley v Theory
Liv v Ronda
Roman v Brock
Uso v street Profit (Saw their Titans entrance though, pretty cool)
I actually kinda liked the logan paul v miz match. He definitely has some work to do with the basic mechanics of a match, but he has the sports entertainment on lock. Miz is a great heel and made him look pretty good. The frog splash might be 3rd all time behind Eddie and Montez Ford.
I liked Dakota Kai since she was in the first Mae Young tournament, so glad to see her back. Iyo almost jumped and danced herself into a nip slip. If a photo of Bayley in a thong ever hit the internet I would have no need for porn hub ever again.
I woke up to see the pin in the main event and was so confused when I saw the aftermath of the ring. I'll probably rewatch that match and maybe Liv.
It’s only a matter of time before Montez goes the HBK route and makes a singles run to the world title. He’d make a good cocky heel.I hope he doesn't cash in for like another 9 or 10 months just so we can see the continual destruction of that briefcase
I wouldn’t be mad if they threw us for a swerve and gave Dawkins the singles run.
Also can’t wait to see when Theory cashes in and wins the belt. I don’t think they’d have him cash in on Reigns though.
I hope he doesn't cash in for like another 9 or 10 months just so we can see the continual destruction of that briefcaseExpand QuoteIt’s only a matter of time before Montez goes the HBK route and makes a singles run to the world title. He’d make a good cocky heel.
I wouldn’t be mad if they threw us for a swerve and gave Dawkins the singles run.
Also can’t wait to see when Theory cashes in and wins the belt. I don’t think they’d have him cash in on Reigns though.[close]
I heard good things about Bandido Taurus. Will definitely check it out. The card is nuts
I've been out of town and only watched a few highlights, but just talked to wifey and she filled me in on Dynamite last night. Page and the Bucks will 100% be first trios champ. Hopefully Adam Cole and his worthless friends go away after that. Hungle Boy v Cage will be real good and hopefully elevates Jungle Boy as a singles act as well as his tag work.
Jericho once again shows how to use a mic properly. Does Kingston get involved in the match against Mox?
Why put your women's world champ in a tag team every week and essentially not use her belt for any storylines? Oh, because she not super exciting in the ring and is complete garbo on the mic. Please let this lead to Toni Storm taking the belt. That is the only good reason for this.
Killer Kross back in WWE. I hope HHH doesn’t Bitch this one. Glad I caught him in NJPW.
https://youtu.be/fe9UsbdYGVc (https://youtu.be/fe9UsbdYGVc)
Expand QuoteKiller Kross back in WWE. I hope HHH doesn’t Bitch this one. Glad I caught him in NJPW.
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Haha my coworker just told me about this and I thought of you. He's a better fit for WWE than AEW so this makes sense all around. I wonder if Vince tried to get frisky with Scarlett (she's DEFINITELY his type) and that had something to do with the departure.
Live rampage was so-so, Mance Warner and Mox had a decent old fashioned brawl. Lots of taters and weapons. I was half asleep so I don't remember much of the rest of the show. The crowd seemed kind of worn out so hopefully that means whatever they taped for Battle of the Belts tonight was good. REALLY looking forward to Wardlow vs Lethal. Huge fan of both dudes for entirely different reasons.
Mance Warner is a young Terry Funk.
I’m trying to decide if I want to go to AEW Grand Slam again. I’m already going to the US Open and Dime Glory Challenge a few weeks before.
Grand Slam was cool, but the lines for everything were ridiculously long. I didn’t get to eat until 11:15 when they were filming Rampage.
I’m glad WWE isn’t dead in the water now. I’m convinced their product might end up being better than AEW with HHH running creative. Can’t wait for The Fiend and Sasha Banks to return. I also don’t think he’d botch MJF.
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Mance Warner is a young Terry Funk.
I’m trying to decide if I want to go to AEW Grand Slam again. I’m already going to the US Open and Dime Glory Challenge a few weeks before.
Grand Slam was cool, but the lines for everything were ridiculously long. I didn’t get to eat until 11:15 when they were filming Rampage.
I’m glad WWE isn’t dead in the water now. I’m convinced their product might end up being better than AEW with HHH running creative. Can’t wait for The Fiend and Sasha Banks to return. I also don’t think he’d botch MJF.[close]
Somewhere in Kentucky, Jim Cornette's blood pressure just went up 50 points since you put that into the world hahaha.
Grand slam should be sick but no sense running yourself ragged. Take this year off and watch it on the couch with a joint and a pizza like the rest of us degenerates.
I guess I was wrong about WWE not changing dramatically. Johnny Ace just got shit canned and apparently Sasha and Naomi are coming back. It sounds like they actually managed to root Vince out and exile him back to his mansion where he can pump iron and longingly sniff his black tank top until we inevitably hear he's signed a contract to wrestle Flair in a hell in a cell match.
Haven't heard anything about Bray but I'm sure it's in the works too. He was making crazy money before (4 mil salary plus a cut of merchandise is what I've read) so I'm not sure how it'll all play out but I think he's gotta go back eventually. Apparently they're considering Dexter Lumis too.
Apparently Vice is doing a dark side of the ring style show called Tales from the Territories that will focus on all the crazy shit that used to happen when wrestling was still a regional game. The Rock is one of the producers so I'm guessing they won't be delving into the really crazy degenerate stuff (like the rock n roll express/Jimmy V glass table story) but whatever, I love old wrestling stories so I'm stoked.
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Mance Warner is a young Terry Funk.
I’m trying to decide if I want to go to AEW Grand Slam again. I’m already going to the US Open and Dime Glory Challenge a few weeks before.
Grand Slam was cool, but the lines for everything were ridiculously long. I didn’t get to eat until 11:15 when they were filming Rampage.
I’m glad WWE isn’t dead in the water now. I’m convinced their product might end up being better than AEW with HHH running creative. Can’t wait for The Fiend and Sasha Banks to return. I also don’t think he’d botch MJF.[close]
Somewhere in Kentucky, Jim Cornette's blood pressure just went up 50 points since you put that into the world hahaha.
Grand slam should be sick but no sense running yourself ragged. Take this year off and watch it on the couch with a joint and a pizza like the rest of us degenerates.
I guess I was wrong about WWE not changing dramatically. Johnny Ace just got shit canned and apparently Sasha and Naomi are coming back. It sounds like they actually managed to root Vince out and exile him back to his mansion where he can pump iron and longingly sniff his black tank top until we inevitably hear he's signed a contract to wrestle Flair in a hell in a cell match.
Haven't heard anything about Bray but I'm sure it's in the works too. He was making crazy money before (4 mil salary plus a cut of merchandise is what I've read) so I'm not sure how it'll all play out but I think he's gotta go back eventually. Apparently they're considering Dexter Lumis too.
Apparently Vice is doing a dark side of the ring style show called Tales from the Territories that will focus on all the crazy shit that used to happen when wrestling was still a regional game. The Rock is one of the producers so I'm guessing they won't be delving into the really crazy degenerate stuff (like the rock n roll express/Jimmy V glass table story) but whatever, I love old wrestling stories so I'm stoked.[close]
Jim Cornette is the Stephen A Smith of wrestling, except I like Stephen A whenever the Dallas Cowboys lose.
Laurinaitis officially got canned. There has to be more to his involvement in all this.
I loved Max Caster’s Laurinaitis line that he rapped at Bryan Danielson before their match “I end more careers than your father in law.”
The drive up to and back from Queens on a weeknight alone makes me think I’ll just catch AEW at the Liacouras Center like I did the week after the last Grand Slam.
AEW really needs Punk and Omega back. I hope HHH signs MJF and takes Miro back from AEW too.
In my mark ass opinion they botched the suicide dive and king was supposed to fall into the coffin, but I liked the second finish more because I can believe lil Darby could beat a giant by hanging him with a steel chain
Edit: 2 time Jericho tonight baby, Lionheart putting on for the city, the hart dungeon and the whole of Canada
In my mark ass opinion they botched the suicide dive and king was supposed to fall into the coffin, but I liked the second finish more because I can believe lil Darby could beat a giant by hanging him with a steel chain
Does AEW use fake blood when someone gets color? It looks too bright.
That lucha match was very underwhelming.
Garcia seems to be coming into his own cutting promos now. Anna Jay’s promos are terrible.
Miro’s promos are amazing.
Why is Nick Comoroto dressing like Billy Jack Haynes?
Ahhhhhh shit. Fell asleep pretty early on.
I liked Darby v. Brody but the Sting appearance was so predictable. It would have been very cool if Miro was waiting in the coffin. His promo would have had a lot more meaning if he just got done beating their asses.
Shame on whoever caught Penta's mask and didn't throw it back. That match was pretty cool though. Andrade and Rush look awesome in their entrance.
Everything else is a blur. Wifey tried to wake me up for main event but I was toast. Woke up again to see Punk come out.
Expand QuoteAhhhhhh shit. Fell asleep pretty early on.
I liked Darby v. Brody but the Sting appearance was so predictable. It would have been very cool if Miro was waiting in the coffin. His promo would have had a lot more meaning if he just got done beating their asses.
Shame on whoever caught Penta's mask and didn't throw it back. That match was pretty cool though. Andrade and Rush look awesome in their entrance.
Everything else is a blur. Wifey tried to wake me up for main event but I was toast. Woke up again to see Punk come out.[close]
I know you're a Jericho mark like myself so I highly recommend you go watch the main when you get a chance. If you need a link just let me know. He legit wrestles it like Lionheart Jericho for the most part and hits his classic spots. It was weird seeing old Jericho playing young Jericho at first but I got into it pretty quick. I usually don't like Mox matches (especially long ones) but he played his role perfectly in this one.
I can't believe I was convinced Jericho was washed up 6 months ago. Seeing the flashes of the ECW/WCW version of him brought back so many good memories of watching wrestling on a 13 inch CRT TV/VCR combo. I had a bootleg copy of extreme warfare vol 2 with Sabu vs Jericho that I used to watch religiously. That tape and ICP stranglemania are seared into my grey matter.
ARMBAR!!!!!!!
The man of 1,004 holds was amazing work. He goes into that a bit when he was on the Stone Cold Podcast and it was hilarious.
Also, one of my best friends grew up with Dean Malenko as a neighbor.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vaq1y
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Facebook is way better quality (but ik fb shares links weird sometimes) Jericho is my all time goat, with Vince gone I don't really see him going back to WWE. I think he will comentate and podcast when he retires maybe work behind the scenes at AEW. Beyond excited for what I hope is Kenny's return next week. My brother bought me an Omega shirt for Christmas and I have been saving it for his return. I don't wanna jinx it by wearing it all day but I might have to
On the new episode of BTE the Bucks did a not very subtle tease of Kenny Omega returning on Wednesday. I don't think they'd do it just to pop a rating, but I do feel like with Tony you always have to sort of think he might be bringing in some new indy darling or fed castaway. I hate that it's gotten to that point, so please let this be the start of Omega, Punk, and MJF coming back and them trimming the fat and concentrating on their stars again. Make ROH it's own thing or keep it on Rampage/dark and stop having pointless dream matches all the time. It's fine once in a while but you did a whole PPV of those, it's time to build some storylines that get people invested again.
I might be being impatient but I kind of want Mox vs Punk to be MJF's return. Have him cost Punk the match, then beat Mox for the belt so we get Punk having to chase a chickenshit heel champ. I feel like that dynamic would work a little better than him cheating to beat his hero directly.
Expand QuoteOn the new episode of BTE the Bucks did a not very subtle tease of Kenny Omega returning on Wednesday. I don't think they'd do it just to pop a rating, but I do feel like with Tony you always have to sort of think he might be bringing in some new indy darling or fed castaway. I hate that it's gotten to that point, so please let this be the start of Omega, Punk, and MJF coming back and them trimming the fat and concentrating on their stars again. Make ROH it's own thing or keep it on Rampage/dark and stop having pointless dream matches all the time. It's fine once in a while but you did a whole PPV of those, it's time to build some storylines that get people invested again.
I might be being impatient but I kind of want Mox vs Punk to be MJF's return. Have him cost Punk the match, then beat Mox for the belt so we get Punk having to chase a chickenshit heel champ. I feel like that dynamic would work a little better than him cheating to beat his hero directly.[close]
Didn’t both BTE and Raw reference that promo where Rey breaks the cabinet he’s doing pull ups on in the background?
IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!
IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!
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Tony Kahn’s going to try and be a little bit nicer backstage?
I guess we're going to get a quick Toni piss break match and then 20-25 for the big reveal? I've enjoyed the pacing of this episode so far. I think not kicking it straight off with a dream match and then trying to cram everything in really helps.
Damn those belts look amazing.
KENNY FUCKIN OMEGA.
And he has creepy Callis with him. Let's fuckin go.
Wait is he going to wear a shirt? I guess it's not as bad as Flair's tunic but let's see how he looks.
So glad to see Omega return.
That punk - mox segment was great too.
I hope Daniel Garcia joins Blackpool Combat Club. He’s the future.
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I think that was the original plan but Jericho really saw something in him and wanted him in JAS. I think with Vince leaving WWE they are gonna end JAS ASAP cause it doesnt make sense anymore.(Jerichos IG post after his mox match basically said I'm a pro wrestler fuck all that sports entertainment bull shit) I think Garcia will get his rightful place in BCC eventually as well.
Also Kenny the GOAT is back couldn't be happier, although I hope he isn't coming back too soon with the shirt and shoulder brace thingy
So funny I had NFL Network on yesterday and its a Jaguars preseason game and Tony Khan is in the booth chopping it up with the commentators.
Last nights Dynamite was great.
CM Punk certainly won the mic battle IMO. I had a perfect comeback for Mox after Punk was saying shit about him being the 2nd best John and Eddie is the 3rd best Eddie and 2nd best kingston and him being the 3rd best in his own group.
Mox shoulda said something like "Well you will be the 8,352nd Punk I've destroyed so what the fuck you gonna do?"
I'm blown that they are doing the match next week for free its gonna be a bloodbath.
As soon as the Ass Boys turned on Daddy Ass I knew the Acclaimed would come in for the save and I legit popped for it. Wifey pointed out that Max has some fucking tree trunk calves and she's right.
Toni better get the belt. I love the Sweet Cheeks Music. Remember when she had some nudes get leaked? Her Only Fans shit is awesome.
Andrade and Rush look so fucking money on their entrances man.
This is actually a great way to bring Kenny back slowly. He doesn't have to do everything and The Young Bucks can kinda carry the weight while Kenny gets back in ring shape. He barely looked like he was gonna get Dragon Lee up for the One Wing Angel. Maybe Kenny is actually such a god at wrestling that he is selling ring rust and selling that he is still recovering with the brace and compression shirt?
I love when a wrestling show cuts out at the end while something is still happening and you get that little pop of excitement for next week.
Great job Tony, you nailed it this week.
So funny I had NFL Network on yesterday and its a Jaguars preseason game and Tony Khan is in the booth chopping it up with the commentators.
Last nights Dynamite was great.
CM Punk certainly won the mic battle IMO. I had a perfect comeback for Mox after Punk was saying shit about him being the 2nd best John and Eddie is the 3rd best Eddie and 2nd best kingston and him being the 3rd best in his own group.
Mox shoulda said something like "Well you will be the 8,352nd Punk I've destroyed so what the fuck you gonna do?"
I'm blown that they are doing the match next week for free its gonna be a bloodbath.
As soon as the Ass Boys turned on Daddy Ass I knew the Acclaimed would come in for the save and I legit popped for it. Wifey pointed out that Max has some fucking tree trunk calves and she's right.
Toni better get the belt. I love the Sweet Cheeks Music. Remember when she had some nudes get leaked? Her Only Fans shit is awesome.
Andrade and Rush look so fucking money on their entrances man.
This is actually a great way to bring Kenny back slowly. He doesn't have to do everything and The Young Bucks can kinda carry the weight while Kenny gets back in ring shape. He barely looked like he was gonna get Dragon Lee up for the One Wing Angel. Maybe Kenny is actually such a god at wrestling that he is selling ring rust and selling that he is still recovering with the brace and compression shirt?
I love when a wrestling show cuts out at the end while something is still happening and you get that little pop of excitement for next week.
Great job Tony, you nailed it this week.
At least BD and DG didn’t gig themselves. I was annoyed when they started bleeding too, but it seemed like they just happened over the course of the match (and thankfully never gushed) so I was ok with it.
Funny that Punk called that out about Moxley too
I don't have the energy for another work-shoot-shoot-work-shoot-work or whatever this thing with Punk is turning out to be. Hopefully it's just another attempt at kayfabe in the modern era by AEW that's been blown out of proportion by the dirt sheets, but if Punk really is unhappy enough to be considering no-showing Dynamites already then he should probably just go home because there's no accounting for his misery
Expand QuoteI don't have the energy for another work-shoot-shoot-work-shoot-work or whatever this thing with Punk is turning out to be. Hopefully it's just another attempt at kayfabe in the modern era by AEW that's been blown out of proportion by the dirt sheets, but if Punk really is unhappy enough to be considering no-showing Dynamites already then he should probably just go home because there's no accounting for his misery[close]
It has to be a work. How can anyone not like Adam Page? The dude is like the ultimate real life baby face in addition to being an incredible one on-screen.
I kinda suspect SRS and some of the other wrestling "journalists" are in on it and just pushing these stories as some sort of weird attempt at resurrecting kayfabe. Maybe TK is paying them, maybe they just feel like it's the right thing to do. Or maybe they're all just full of shit. It does feel like they rarely hit the mark with AEW "scoops" though.
How funny would it be if they did like a parallel to the MJF leaving thing and have everyone actually turn on them and then bring them back as a heel duo ala Edge and Christian. There would be marks actually frothing at the mouth haha.
People have been talking about Slim J a lot lately. Good to see him wrestle. Trustbusters is one of those things that just kind of works despite itself.
Love this era of Dustin. He hasn’t had a bad match since he left WWE. He definitely deserves to hold the gold (though I’d kinda like him with the NWA belt)
People have been talking about Slim J a lot lately. Good to see him wrestle. Trustbusters is one of those things that just kind of works despite itself.
Love this era of Dustin. He hasn’t had a bad match since he left WWE. He definitely deserves to hold the gold (though I’d kinda like him with the NWA belt)
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Love this era of Dustin. He hasn’t had a bad match since he left WWE. He definitely deserves to hold the gold (though I’d kinda like him with the NWA belt)[close]
Went to the Dynamite tapings last night and really appreciated the trustbusters as heels. Slim J was a great worker and I’m a fan of Davari.
Was cool meeting John Silver before the show, and the team formally known as Bear country after.
Got to chat with Tony Khan and grab a photo with him too.
That was my first live event in probably 6 or so years. I used to attend the nxt events in Tampa before I moved and I forgot how fun they are, definitely going to grab tickets for more AEW events.
Don't really care for wwe these days but triple hhhunter brought back gargano tonight which was a surprise
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This was kinda neat and made me think of you nerds
Love the Kip Sabian thing finally paid off and the crowd was into it.
Elite vs Osprey and Co is quite the match for next week
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Elite vs Osprey and Co is quite the match for next week[close]
I liked it but I'm not sure about the wisdom of doing that for the main (and again, I'm so sick of Lucha Bros/DT losing). I guess if they had done the title squash last it would have been obvious from the time left in the show but they were already pushing the "we're going to stay with these matches no matter how long they go" thing and I think you could have just had a longer afterbirth and/or the mox promo directly afterwards to close the show.
Maybe I'm nitpicking but I guess I just prefer a traditionally structured wrestling show. No matter how huge of a mark I am for the guys involved, a 6 man tag belt tournament match should not go on after a world title unification match between two of the biggest names on the card.
And yeah Ospreay is a fucking star. Him and PAC put on quite the show, they really pulled out some crazy shit. Fenix obviously had his usual show stealing spots too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLove the Kip Sabian thing finally paid off and the crowd was into it.
Elite vs Osprey and Co is quite the match for next week[close]
I liked it but I'm not sure about the wisdom of doing that for the main (and again, I'm so sick of Lucha Bros/DT losing). I guess if they had done the title squash last it would have been obvious from the time left in the show but they were already pushing the "we're going to stay with these matches no matter how long they go" thing and I think you could have just had a longer afterbirth and/or the mox promo directly afterwards to close the show.
Maybe I'm nitpicking but I guess I just prefer a traditionally structured wrestling show. No matter how huge of a mark I am for the guys involved, a 6 man tag belt tournament match should not go on after a world title unification match between two of the biggest names on the card.
And yeah Ospreay is a fucking star. Him and PAC put on quite the show, they really pulled out some crazy shit. Fenix obviously had his usual show stealing spots too.[close]
I agree - but I think for them to pull off the 5 minute match due to injury, you can’t have that going last otherwise people are going to know something’s going on due to the time. In theory, everything going on after the unification match was there to be cut in case the world title match was a broadway. Kind of a can’t have your cake and eat it too scenario
I was really confused when the world title match went on at 9pm.
I really hope they don't just have Punk win it back at the PPV.
MJF interfering in chicago to make Punk lose might actually start a riot.
Man I been reading a lot about the backstage drama and I guess Thunder Rosa didn't want to put Toni over and there is heat on her. She also broke Hayer's nose in there match and Hayter wanted to legit fight her backstage and Rosa hid from her. THunder could have been awesome if she knew how a mic worked.
Claudio needs a new theme bad. You've got this 6'6 muscle god and you have him coming out to some wimpy 90s anime theme sounding shit? He's not Jushin Liger.
Theory I saw posted I kinda dig:
MJF returns to help Punk win. Cues Punk heel turn
I think 10 gets work injured and Page replaces him in the finals. He’s coming along nicely though
Sets up the possibility for Page to do what Roddy Strong did when joining the Undisputed Era, but unlikely since Elite aren’t really positioned as heels at the moment.
Got a lil fucked up at a soccer game, but what an episode of wrasslin. Main event blew me away and I've seen just about every omega match and most of the YB matches (not a brag I'm a fecking nerd) some of the best I've seen since Omega vs Okada.
Incredible main event. Terrible finish that no doubt will have been a massive kick in the nuts to the crowd that I don't think can be fixed by Tyson Fury singing. I guess in hindsight though Drew wasn't going to win, but they probably should've just had Roman win clean.
Roman vs Rock would be amazing but you’re right that Rock shouldn’t go over. I don’t know where they’d go from there because of the age old WWE problem of not having any credible opponents, but with Vince gone I don’t think that will be as much of a problem. HHH has plenty of time to start building people for after that.
Haven’t seen last week’s Dynamite yet but I do not understand what’s going on. I figured the world title squash was because Punk was going to be out for longer than they thought so it was a way to write him off and can the interim thing, but now he’s back already. Why advertise Punk vs Mox at All Out, then hastily change it to a TV match, then do it at All out anyway? I’m hoping there’ll be a payoff tonight but I’m getting increasingly less confident in TK’s booking, it’s getting so erratic
Roman vs Rock would be amazing but you’re right that Rock shouldn’t go over. I don’t know where they’d go from there because of the age old WWE problem of not having any credible opponents, but with Vince gone I don’t think that will be as much of a problem. HHH has plenty of time to start building people for after that.
Haven’t seen last week’s Dynamite yet but I do not understand what’s going on. I figured the world title squash was because Punk was going to be out for longer than they thought so it was a way to write him off and can the interim thing, but now he’s back already. Why advertise Punk vs Mox at All Out, then hastily change it to a TV match, then do it at All out anyway? I’m hoping there’ll be a payoff tonight but I’m getting increasingly less confident in TK’s booking, it’s getting so erratic
Haha I loved that, that sort of shit is what I enjoy about wrestling. It seemed like MJF to me, I think he’ll reveal himself in the main event. Coming back to join Stokely’s group seems weird, but remember MJF is never on his own. He always has other people to protect him and do his bidding while he rarely wrestles. He’s been getting Stokely to recruit a group for him while he’s been away. Or it’s someone else IDK
Edit - https://twitter.com/aew/status/1514411797910011904?s=21&t=Cl6RTDOZRdlfAnx2vcGyww
https://v.redd.it/jyrh28pnrxl91
Meh I don’t really care about the ladder match. The IWC has been fucking insufferable over the last few weeks, I’ve kinda checked out and it’s nice just enjoying things at face value because I haven’t spent hours speculating about everything. I’ll judge based on where they go next.
Is it me or is this PPV dragging quite a bit. That tag match went on for about a week.
Ok well that entire 4 hours just paid off
I need to catch the replay of this ppv. I’m guessing it totally dunked on WWE’s Castle ppv.
MJF is back and I’m hyped.
It’s just so weird that immediately when WWE starts to be a shitshow is when AEW starts falling apart behind the scenes.
I think I’m definitely going to take a break from all the wrestling Twitter I can look at as a non-user. A lot of wild shit seems to be happening behind the scenes, not the least of which is Malachi Black apparently blowing the crowd a kiss and bowing after his match, which seems ominous.
(I don’t want to go back to WWE even if Alistair returns. Even though hunter NXT is what got me back - I just thoroughly loathe that company as an entity)
Maybe it's wishful thinking but i'm just kind of assuming they're operating under the old "anything said on camera is a work" principle with the Hangman and Punk stuff. Both guys are pretty smart and seem to have their heads on straight in other ways so I just don't necessarily buy that they'd be sniping at each other in promos instead of talking it out backstage if there was legit heat. Again, I suspect they're deliberately using the stuff we as fans have become accustomed to trusting ("insider" reports, "shoot" interviews etc) to blur the lines and bring back some semblance of realism. Not sure how advisable it is as a long term strategy but it definitely gets people invested in the present. For as much supposed discontent as there is backstage they run a pretty tight ship in terms of stuff actually getting out. It seems like the vast majority of these rumors and leaks end up being wrong, and the stuff that actually happens like Cody leaving doesn't really get leaked beforehand and is handled professionally and in-line with how you'd expect a major company to act.
I guess I feel like the devils in the details in the same way that the timing was a major giveaway to me with the MJF thing originally. It looks legit at first glance but I'm not sure if it passes the sniff test. I won't be surprised if the storyline for this next PPV cycle is Punk slowly becoming bitter and turning heel while MJF surpasses him. Like I said before, if you want to get AEW fans to really boo and dislike you then going after Hangman is the way to do it. Also wonder if the "no extension" part of the voicemail could be them planting the seeds for MJF to do the leaving while champ story too if the idea is to go full Punk tribute act. They love planting little seeds like that as we're now seeing haha.
Expand QuoteMaybe it's wishful thinking but i'm just kind of assuming they're operating under the old "anything said on camera is a work" principle with the Hangman and Punk stuff. Both guys are pretty smart and seem to have their heads on straight in other ways so I just don't necessarily buy that they'd be sniping at each other in promos instead of talking it out backstage if there was legit heat. Again, I suspect they're deliberately using the stuff we as fans have become accustomed to trusting ("insider" reports, "shoot" interviews etc) to blur the lines and bring back some semblance of realism. Not sure how advisable it is as a long term strategy but it definitely gets people invested in the present. For as much supposed discontent as there is backstage they run a pretty tight ship in terms of stuff actually getting out. It seems like the vast majority of these rumors and leaks end up being wrong, and the stuff that actually happens like Cody leaving doesn't really get leaked beforehand and is handled professionally and in-line with how you'd expect a major company to act.
I guess I feel like the devils in the details in the same way that the timing was a major giveaway to me with the MJF thing originally. It looks legit at first glance but I'm not sure if it passes the sniff test. I won't be surprised if the storyline for this next PPV cycle is Punk slowly becoming bitter and turning heel while MJF surpasses him. Like I said before, if you want to get AEW fans to really boo and dislike you then going after Hangman is the way to do it. Also wonder if the "no extension" part of the voicemail could be them planting the seeds for MJF to do the leaving while champ story too if the idea is to go full Punk tribute act. They love planting little seeds like that as we're now seeing haha.[close]
While I also wanted to believe this logic, it leaves me wondering what angles they’d be setting up? I’ve heard that the backstage environment there is “very toxic” at the moment.
Why in the hell would they give punk 10 mins to talk about colt boom boom cabana?
On the positive side for AEW: they don’t employ The Miz or Dominik, so that’s a win
No BTE today…
Expand QuoteIncredible main event. Terrible finish that no doubt will have been a massive kick in the nuts to the crowd that I don't think can be fixed by Tyson Fury singing. I guess in hindsight though Drew wasn't going to win, but they probably should've just had Roman win clean.[close]
As much as I like Drew, I think that was the right choice. You can't end a title reign like this at a one-off PPV for a slightly pandering hometown hero pop. You almost have to do it at mania and I just don't think Drew is a big enough star for it to work at the moment anyways. I know it's repetitive but they've booked themselves into a corner and it's going to take time to clear the Vince stench out build a believable opponent.
Twitter marks seem to think it's going to be the Rock at mania and that has to be the absolute worst idea I've ever heard. Yeah.. Let's put the most important belt in wrestling on an old, roided up, injury plagued movie star who hasn't had a proper match in a decade....im sure that would turn out great.
I think Cody in a grand "fulfilling my father's destiny" storyline is probably the best person right now. This is pure fantasy booking but if they somehow got Dustin out of his contract and had him make a surprise return to nullify the bloodline and allow Cody to win I would mark out so hard. I would also be down with Bray coming back and winning but they better have an actual plan for where to go from there if they do that. And if almost rather it be just bray and not the fiend and his papa shango tribute act.
Expand QuoteMaybe it's wishful thinking but i'm just kind of assuming they're operating under the old "anything said on camera is a work" principle with the Hangman and Punk stuff. Both guys are pretty smart and seem to have their heads on straight in other ways so I just don't necessarily buy that they'd be sniping at each other in promos instead of talking it out backstage if there was legit heat. Again, I suspect they're deliberately using the stuff we as fans have become accustomed to trusting ("insider" reports, "shoot" interviews etc) to blur the lines and bring back some semblance of realism. Not sure how advisable it is as a long term strategy but it definitely gets people invested in the present. For as much supposed discontent as there is backstage they run a pretty tight ship in terms of stuff actually getting out. It seems like the vast majority of these rumors and leaks end up being wrong, and the stuff that actually happens like Cody leaving doesn't really get leaked beforehand and is handled professionally and in-line with how you'd expect a major company to act.
I guess I feel like the devils in the details in the same way that the timing was a major giveaway to me with the MJF thing originally. It looks legit at first glance but I'm not sure if it passes the sniff test. I won't be surprised if the storyline for this next PPV cycle is Punk slowly becoming bitter and turning heel while MJF surpasses him. Like I said before, if you want to get AEW fans to really boo and dislike you then going after Hangman is the way to do it. Also wonder if the "no extension" part of the voicemail could be them planting the seeds for MJF to do the leaving while champ story too if the idea is to go full Punk tribute act. They love planting little seeds like that as we're now seeing haha.[close]
While I also wanted to believe this logic, it leaves me wondering what angles they’d be setting up? I’ve heard that the backstage environment there is “very toxic” at the moment.
Why in the hell would they give punk 10 mins to talk about colt boom boom cabana?
MICK JAGGER AND KEITH RICHARDS ARE ALL ELITE!!!!
THE NIGHT KING IS ALL ELITE!!!!!
AEW! AEW! AEW! AEW!
For the record, I called Jungle Boy "Hungle Boy" in front of wifey a few weeks ago and she's like "what the fuck did you just say?" I explained the nickname and during the PPV on Sunday she just goes "HOLY SHIT he IS Hungle Boy!!!" Not psyched on the Luchasaurus thing. Looks like TK is having trouble deciding who is face/heel.
Possible last appearance for Malakai Black? now Sting can shoot mist? DAMMIT ALL TO HELL!!!!
Gunther v Sheamus was amazing to watch.
MICK JAGGER AND KEITH RICHARDS ARE ALL ELITE!!!!
THE NIGHT KING IS ALL ELITE!!!!!
AEW! AEW! AEW! AEW!
For the record, I called Jungle Boy "Hungle Boy" in front of wifey a few weeks ago and she's like "what the fuck did you just say?" I explained the nickname and during the PPV on Sunday she just goes "HOLY SHIT he IS Hungle Boy!!!" Not psyched on the Luchasaurus thing. Looks like TK is having trouble deciding who is face/heel.
Possible last appearance for Malakai Black? now Sting can shoot mist? DAMMIT ALL TO HELL!!!!
Gunther v Sheamus was amazing to watch.
I heard Malachi has a bad injury he needs time off for.
He IS a top guy, but he’s built a character (bc he’s a LORE mark) that you just don’t slot into a title shot. “Lore” guys get hurt (gimmicks sputter) when they have to sustain that over a title run or when they lose.
I heard Malachi has a bad injury he needs time off for.
He IS a top guy, but he’s built a character (bc he’s a LORE mark) that you just don’t slot into a title shot. “Lore” guys get hurt (gimmicks sputter) when they have to sustain that over a title run or when they lose.
So who’s excited for dynamite tonight?
No omega is a bummer and no Larry is a bummer but I’ve gotta believe that MJF is gonna drop a barn burner of a promo.
Expand QuoteSo who’s excited for dynamite tonight?
No omega is a bummer and no Larry is a bummer but I’ve gotta believe that MJF is gonna drop a barn burner of a promo.[close]
Malakai Black is gone and either CM Punk or The Elite are next.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo who’s excited for dynamite tonight?
No omega is a bummer and no Larry is a bummer but I’ve gotta believe that MJF is gonna drop a barn burner of a promo.[close]
Malakai Black is gone and either CM Punk or The Elite are next.[close]
CM Punk keeps getting injured the day he wins the title. Has a pec tear so he’s going to be out for awhile (even though he’s likely to get fired). I’ll never quite understand how things that minor seemed to escalate that irreparably.
I’d maybe be surprised if they let MJF off the leash here. I kinda feel like they won’t address it all (other than doing something with the title belt) in an attempt to let the dust settle and emotions to cool. Don’t see how an incendiary work/shoot promo helps anything
I heard Malachi has a bad injury he needs time off for.
He IS a top guy, but he’s built a character (bc he’s a LORE mark) that you just don’t slot into a title shot. “Lore” guys get hurt (gimmicks sputter) when they have to sustain that over a title run or when they lose.
Expand QuoteI heard Malachi has a bad injury he needs time off for.
He IS a top guy, but he’s built a character (bc he’s a LORE mark) that you just don’t slot into a title shot. “Lore” guys get hurt (gimmicks sputter) when they have to sustain that over a title run or when they lose.[close]
Like Bray.
I hope MJF keeps Sympathy for the Devil as his entrance.
I don’t know about the Stokely stable though. I get Nexxus vibes from them…like they’re just there to be chaotic action scene jabronis.
HOLY FUCK PENTA AND FENIX HAVE BELTS
Expand QuoteHOLY FUCK PENTA AND FENIX HAVE BELTS[close]
Wow thought they were finally going to strap up OC since Penta and Fenix have been champs before and PAC is a current one
That said…
Would have been a great opportunity for a program with House of Black, but paying off whatever this program with Andrade and Rooosh will be good (curious to know what the angle with Pres10 and Dark Order will be)
I think by the end his career, he will be the single greatest heel of all time to ever exist. Without question he would be top 5 promo for me already.
-Flair
-Dusty
-Rick Rude
-Paul Heyman
-MJF
I think his name fits in that list quite well.
Where does Jake Roberts fit in to that list? I'm no wrestling historian but his promos always seemed up there. This one just popped up on Reddit that reminded me of him
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/xbfoqw/jake_roberts_cuts_a_cold_blooded_promo_against/
Also any MJF fans have got to watch this one from MLW. Incredible promo
https://streamable.com/0sp0ky
Where does Jake Roberts fit in to that list? I'm no wrestling historian but his promos always seemed up there. This one just popped up on Reddit that reminded me of him
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/xbfoqw/jake_roberts_cuts_a_cold_blooded_promo_against/
Also any MJF fans have got to watch this one from MLW. Incredible promo
https://streamable.com/0sp0ky
HELL YEAH BOYS!! IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!
The women's division is a mess. Don't have your champ lose in a tag team. Don't have your champ wrestle in a tag team. But I guess you gotta do something because there aren't enough worthy contenders that can have a decent match.
This 4 way match for the title should be a 3 way to decide the #1 contender.
Man I hope Action Bronson doesn't blow it. I like him as a rapper, don't want my opinion tarnished.
Whats the over/under on how long it takes Mox to bleed in this match? I say he will be fully red by the 4 minute mark.
Lucha Bros - man I wanted to see Death TRiangle with 6 belts.
Dude how about when Stokely said he was watching Living Single with the House of Black? I popped. That shit was funny. I do actually like that MJF doesn't always have to be attached to his stable. He shouldn't be anywhere near the ass boys though.
Expand QuoteThe women's division is a mess. Don't have your champ lose in a tag team. Don't have your champ wrestle in a tag team. But I guess you gotta do something because there aren't enough worthy contenders that can have a decent match.
This 4 way match for the title should be a 3 way to decide the #1 contender.
Man I hope Action Bronson doesn't blow it. I like him as a rapper, don't want my opinion tarnished.
Whats the over/under on how long it takes Mox to bleed in this match? I say he will be fully red by the 4 minute mark.
Lucha Bros - man I wanted to see Death TRiangle with 6 belts.
Dude how about when Stokely said he was watching Living Single with the House of Black? I popped. That shit was funny. I do actually like that MJF doesn't always have to be attached to his stable. He shouldn't be anywhere near the ass boys though.[close]
Haha dude I was baked and that went right over my head during the Stokely promo. I agree that the group being fluid and not a traditional stable is the best thing on paper, but it's also kinda trying to have your cake and eat it too so it'll be interesting to see how it works out. The fact that MJF got the fuck out of the ring and didn't really interact with anyone except Stokely is a good sign for him but it does make me wonder if the guys in the stable aren't at risk of being lost in the shuffle. Especially Moriarty.
I don't really get why the ass boys are there. I mean I do, I just think it's kinda dumb. I thought their program with the acclaimed and Daddy Ass was going well and they were getting better in the ring every time I saw them. I really feel like that dumpster match and crazy bump is a missed opportunity if they don't immediately start feuding with them again once acclaimed win the belts off SWIOG. If AEW was smart they'd be replaying the clip of the dumpster bump several times every show like WWF used to when something happened.
One of the big things I like about this company is that they have the most interesting tag team scene I can remember seeing in a major company since I was a kid and I want them to lean into it even more. Shit I'd be down for a full ppv built around tags and multis like survivor series or the old WCW lethal lottery or something. I was actually fine with Lucha Bros losing that one just because I think Keith and Swerve have become way better and more believable champions than I thought they would be. They've really won me over with how they were given nothing and turned it into an interesting story and some great matches.
4 minutes is probably generous, I'd take the under on that. Mox might just spontaneously start bleeding out of thin air during his entrance like when a coked up Kerry Von Erich accidentally bladed the fuck out of his arm taking off his jacket before the match. At this point it's so regular I'm surprised no ones offered him a maxi pad sponsorship.
I think Action Bronson will be good to go. He's short and thick and he's training with Taz, plus 2.0 will do everything they can to make sure he looks good. I wouldn't expect any Bad Bunny or Logan Paul shit, but he's definitely going to have some fun spots. I'm predicting at least one t-bone tazplex from him and I wouldn't be surprised if someone goes through a table too.
I mean Shaq looked pretty good, I have hopes.
Might be going to Smackdown tomorrow. Doing research on something pro wrestling related, so it’ll be free (otherwise im pretty anti-WWE esp because Jake Paul will be there). I have no idea who is on what brand but I’d be stoked for some Walter action
Expand QuoteI mean Shaq looked pretty good, I have hopes.
Might be going to Smackdown tomorrow. Doing research on something pro wrestling related, so it’ll be free (otherwise im pretty anti-WWE esp because Jake Paul will be there). I have no idea who is on what brand but I’d be stoked for some Walter action[close]
What type of research? Honestly, Walter might be my favorite thing in that company right now.
Expand QuoteI mean Shaq looked pretty good, I have hopes.
Might be going to Smackdown tomorrow. Doing research on something pro wrestling related, so it’ll be free (otherwise im pretty anti-WWE esp because Jake Paul will be there). I have no idea who is on what brand but I’d be stoked for some Walter action[close]
What type of research? Honestly, Walter might be my favorite thing in that company right now.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI mean Shaq looked pretty good, I have hopes.
Might be going to Smackdown tomorrow. Doing research on something pro wrestling related, so it’ll be free (otherwise im pretty anti-WWE esp because Jake Paul will be there). I have no idea who is on what brand but I’d be stoked for some Walter action[close]
What type of research? Honestly, Walter might be my favorite thing in that company right now.[close]
Can’t really talk about it yet, but it’s set in the world of pro- wrestling and I’m helping him get at least competently versed in the world. He’s already using kayfabe correctly and became an immediate Dusty mark after the Hard Times promo, so I feel like I’ve been doing a good job.
https://youtu.be/nhYLYVHC4Gw (https://youtu.be/nhYLYVHC4Gw)
I still can’t stop laughing at this.
Man that “view never changes” promo was soo good. Any other recs, send them my way.
Who do you think is coming away AEW champ tonight? Danielson or … MJF?
(I feel like Mox putting his 6 week vacation on hold for the tournament is a good sign he won’t be winning)
Not the surprise I was expecting, but good for her. If AEW can manage Sting’s body, I’m not as concerned for her.
I talked myself into everyone but Mox winning that I realized that’s exactly what they wanted you to be thinking
I’ve seen the Rampage spoilers. There is at least one thing that I think will go over huge that is completely unexpected (and I don’t think it will spoil anything by mentioning it’s existence)
I’ve seen the Rampage spoilers. There is at least one thing that I think will go over huge that is completely unexpected (and I don’t think it will spoil anything by mentioning it’s existence)
Expand QuoteI’ve seen the Rampage spoilers. There is at least one thing that I think will go over huge that is completely unexpected (and I don’t think it will spoil anything by mentioning it’s existence)[close]
Luigi Primo is the Joker and wins the battle royal?
I was genuinely surprised Mox won just because of the vacation thing, but maybe that was a work too? Or maybe they want to basically erase Punk's win and will never talk about it again.
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I was genuinely surprised Mox won just because of the vacation thing, but maybe that was a work too? Or maybe they want to basically erase Punk's win and will never talk about it again.[close]
Probably because they didn't want BD's first reign to be transitional since MJF is likely winning it at Full Gear. The vacation was probably real but then they were like "hey, we could do with you being the top guy of the company for a while" and he figured it could wait.
Anyone see the Luigi Primo AMA on Reddit? Someone caught on that he was an antivaxxer and the whole thing fell to pieces haha. I think it's still pinned at the top of the sub
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I was genuinely surprised Mox won just because of the vacation thing, but maybe that was a work too? Or maybe they want to basically erase Punk's win and will never talk about it again.[close]
Probably because they didn't want BD's first reign to be transitional since MJF is likely winning it at Full Gear. The vacation was probably real but then they were like "hey, we could do with you being the top guy of the company for a while" and he figured it could wait.
Anyone see the Luigi Primo AMA on Reddit? Someone caught on that he was an antivaxxer and the whole thing fell to pieces haha. I think it's still pinned at the top of the sub[close]
I missed that, but I saw Cornette’s rant on him and am convinced the whole gimmick was created for that purpose alone.
I’m looking forward the new Dark Side of the Ring show based on territory days. First Ep is on Memphis and one of the things they’re covering is the Jos LeDuq promo where he cuts himself open with his axe
Oct 4 I believe
Expand QuoteOct 4 I believe[close]
Thanks, you're the man Atiba. Hope you're watching cuz they're starting it off with the big spot haha.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOct 4 I believe[close]
Thanks, you're the man Atiba. Hope you're watching cuz they're starting it off with the big spot haha.[close]
I’m gonna catch the replay. I’m west coast. I usually watch it on east coast time, but I was out tonight.
I’m pumped for this territory show. I’m working on something (in addition) that’s based around the time wwf was buying up promotions and killing the territory era (whilst feeding all their top stars to hogan and killing their credibility)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOct 4 I believe[close]
Thanks, you're the man Atiba. Hope you're watching cuz they're starting it off with the big spot haha.[close]
I’m gonna catch the replay. I’m west coast. I usually watch it on east coast time, but I was out tonight.
I’m pumped for this territory show. I’m working on something (in addition) that’s based around the time wwf was buying up promotions and killing the territory era (whilst feeding all their top stars to hogan and killing their credibility)[close]
I wrote a whole recap up and then forgot to submit it and closed the window haha. Cliffs notes - Sting and Muta are fuckin awesome. Hungle Boy and Fenix stole the show as usual. Jade is really good. Action Bronson was great and his powerslam was beautiful. Hobbs is a fucking stud. Dalton Castle needs to be on TV more.
I'm stoked for that show too. I was actually thinking about Vince's empire building era the other day. Apparently the NWA was going to put a hit out on him at one point but not everyone was on board haha. Anyways, one of the things that I think gets glossed over about the rise of the WWF is how influential the AWA was in defining that era. Obviously we all know that Verne and the AWA actually created the Hulk Hogan character that would change wrestling, but they also got a lot of other influential talent from there and stole a lot of their booking ideas as well. Sherri, Sgt. Slaughter, Heenan, Jesse the Body, Mean Gene, Adrian Adonis, the killer B's, the Rockers, Lord Alfred, Mr. Perfect, and basically their entire original women's division were all lifted straight from the AWA and most of them barely even changed their gimmick. They were also super influential in the southern territories but it felt a lot less predatory.
I see parallels with 90s ECW in some ways... Vince basically used them as a farm team, but unlike ECW they weren't secretly cooperating and profiting from it. I don't think the AWA was necessarily ahead of its time in terms of the booking (they definitely tried some wacky shit at certain points though) but they seemed to have the same sort of innate ability to always find or develop new talent.
Any recs (books, docs, YouTube vids) for a deeper dive in the AwA?
Expand QuoteAny recs (books, docs, YouTube vids) for a deeper dive in the AwA?[close]
OWD did a good episode on them where they summarize the whole run but definitely touch heavily on the period you're interested in.
https://youtu.be/tk00NYnYeno
I haven't read any of the books but I would assume any of the Hogan and Verne ones (that aren't puff pieces) would touch on at least the loss of Hogan and perhaps the subsequent talent exodus. The WWE put out one of those nostalgia documentaries that they were pumping out a few years ago too, but I'm not sure how objective it is or how deep it goes.
It's interesting too that after Vince raided Verne, Crockett and the other territories still big enough to compete spent the rest of the decade picking the bones and got a lot of talent there as well... The road warriors (and all the other Minnesota monsters like Nikita) being the first names that come to mind but there's plenty of others. I think Rick Steiner got started there and then went to Watts where he got brought into the fold when Crockett took over and Scott came onboard, so I suppose you can trace the Steiners back there as well if you're generous with your definitions.
I haven't actually watched a ton of AWA other than the supercards so I'm far from an expert, it's just one of those things I've picked up on from listening to territory based podcasts and going "wow that dude started in the AWA too?"
Rampage was tight this week! Jungle Boy/Rey Fenix and Hobbs/Starks were both exceptionally good and I thought everything else was great too. AEW’s homegrown stars are holding it down just fine without Punk, Bucks, Omega, Cody, etc.
The Jericho win was a surprise but honestly pretty exciting. I know that there have been reports of AEW launching a third show, which I assumed would be an ROH reboot, and maybe they’re setting up Jericho as their inaugural villain to take the “honor” back from.
Buddy said the rumor was false and Brody said he’s staying.
Buddy just needs a lil feud to show himself off like Brody’s feud with Darby did. I think a good Los Ingobernales bash would do well. Rush and/or Andrade vs Buddy would be an awesome match.
I sat two seats away from none other than The Mouth of the South Jimmy Hart on Sunday when I flew home. Super nice guy. Actually, too nice. It was 5:30 am and I really just wanted to say hello and thanks for the entertainment (which is my go-to line when I meet celebrities at the airport) He proceeded to try to talk to me about Bucs football (I was wearing my game day jersey) for a solid 10-15 minutes while I tried to not fall asleep mid convo. His only carry on was his ring gear in a clear garment bag. Saw the musical notes shining through. He didn't have his shades on, but put them right on when the guy next to him asked for a selfie.
And now Malachi said he’ll probably be back in a few week
Expand QuoteAnd now Malachi said he’ll probably be back in a few week[close]
I think he also said it could be a few months, but I think his intent was more to say wrestling "journalism" is a joke and you shouldn't believe anything that doesn't come straight from him. In his original IG post he said he did ask for his release, mentioned some stuff about broken promises and also complained about private stuff being leaked, so I think at the very least he's pretty disgruntled.
If Meltzer is to be believed, Trips came calling for his boys hard and contacted almost all the old NXT guys and basically forced Tony to put his foot down and say "no one is getting a release" across the board. Sounds like he's not fucking around and is understandably not very happy about how the Haitcher Boy is conducting business over at titan towers.
Honestly I'm kinda hoping he does cut some guys loose. I'm enjoying seeing some fresh faces and angles with the suspensions. The acclaimed are killing it, Jericho continues to reinvent himself and have great matches, death triangle are the masters of flippy shit, Hungle Boy continues to impress and develop, FTR are still super over, and Keith and Swerve have become one of my favorite parts of the show. And of course, the big one is having MJF back. Now that he's referring to himself as the devil i would love to see them set up a feud with Miro after he cashes in and wins the belt...Gods champion vs the devil, that's some good shit pal.
Also with Malakai and Buddy out, now is the perfect time to push Brody to the moon. Maybe have Darby somehow beat Wardlow for the TNT belt, then have Brody beat Darby for it to set up Wardlow coming for his belt in a hard hitting, meaty as fuck old fashioned hoss fight. That's a PPV match I'd gladly pay to see.
Apparently Paige is going to cut a promo tonight. My money's on her getting booed and not handling it well. Maybe she's just playing up her reputation so she can be a heel, or maybe she's a cokehead chav raised by carnies who has repeatedly shown terrible decision making and judgement through her career. If she wrestles she's going to get hurt, especially with how many botch machines they have in their women's division. I just don't see a happy ending here, but I AM pretty sure I'll see one if I search her name on certain websites.
I still can't believe she let her man bust a nut on her championship belt.
SHAQUEEFA is marked as safe from Hurricane Ian.
My heart goes out to the people south of me. Lots of carnage. If there is one thing I learned from living in a hurricane zone, its that projections dont mean shit until about 6-10 hours out. You can't predict a path of a hurricane 3 days out, there are just too many variables at play. People in Tampa started panicking on Sunday preparing for "the worst Tampa storm of all-time" according to the doomsday media. It was really windy all day and some people lost power. My boss lives on the river in the first mandatory evacuation zone and they were fine.
I know there were lives lost and that is terrible, but for me it was a regular Wednesday. I worked from home instead of going to the office, and fell asleep before the Mox match and woke up later and was in and out for the Jericho match.
@Buttfart how hard were you when Skye Blue came out in Toni's entourage???? HAHAHAH!!!
Oh and I watched the Sting/Darby v HOB and holy shit Julia Hart missed that table so bad. I would have preferred Muta to have appeared in the ring as opposed to coming slowly as fuck down the aisle, but thats just me being picky.
Check out Mark Gonzales YouTube post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgSF3uZ2ck
Also, Tales from the Territories premieres tonight on Vice. Just listened to the Talk is Jericho episode with the creators of the show and it is pretty good. This show is gonna be kinda outlandish and light hearted as a contrast to the Dark Side themes which will be fun. Great to see these guys laughing and telling good stories instead of reminiscing on tragedy.
Each episode will focus on one territory, except one episode that exclusively covers the Andy Kaufman / Jerry Lawler angle.
Should be an excellent watch, especially for the old school territory fans.
Expand QuoteCheck out Mark Gonzales YouTube post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgSF3uZ2ck
Also, Tales from the Territories premieres tonight on Vice. Just listened to the Talk is Jericho episode with the creators of the show and it is pretty good. This show is gonna be kinda outlandish and light hearted as a contrast to the Dark Side themes which will be fun. Great to see these guys laughing and telling good stories instead of reminiscing on tragedy.
Each episode will focus on one territory, except one episode that exclusively covers the Andy Kaufman / Jerry Lawler angle.
Should be an excellent watch, especially for the old school territory fans.[close]
Holy shit I'm so pumped! I'm downloading that episode right now but dunno if I'll have time to listen to it today.
Also, I think they programmed this episode of elevation specifically for me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7lbmgZQxQ
Skye Blue, Danhausen, Lance Archer, Lucha Bros, and Dalton & the Boys. In this ultra fucked up world, I find comfort in the little things like Dalton Castle matches.
Abadonkadonk is officially a thing. She's got new Bull Nakano looking gear and holy shit she's got rikishi levels of cheek showing. I think they might be getting ready to push her?
Penta's muta samurai entrance gear is fucking killer too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCheck out Mark Gonzales YouTube post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgSF3uZ2ck
Also, Tales from the Territories premieres tonight on Vice. Just listened to the Talk is Jericho episode with the creators of the show and it is pretty good. This show is gonna be kinda outlandish and light hearted as a contrast to the Dark Side themes which will be fun. Great to see these guys laughing and telling good stories instead of reminiscing on tragedy.
Each episode will focus on one territory, except one episode that exclusively covers the Andy Kaufman / Jerry Lawler angle.
Should be an excellent watch, especially for the old school territory fans.[close]
Holy shit I'm so pumped! I'm downloading that episode right now but dunno if I'll have time to listen to it today.
Also, I think they programmed this episode of elevation specifically for me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7lbmgZQxQ
Skye Blue, Danhausen, Lance Archer, Lucha Bros, and Dalton & the Boys. In this ultra fucked up world, I find comfort in the little things like Dalton Castle matches.
Abadonkadonk is officially a thing. She's got new Bull Nakano looking gear and holy shit she's got rikishi levels of cheek showing. I think they might be getting ready to push her?
Penta's muta samurai entrance gear is fucking killer too.[close]
I miss the Lance Archer jobber beatdown entrances from no-crowds era Dark. They should bring those back, they were hilarious.
Okay I might have to impress someone soon with some 80s tag team trivia. Any good names to look into that aren’t the immediate contenders? Love having you as a resource. It’s awesome the shit you find and share
I'm losing patience/interest in AEW. TK needs to hire a fucking booker. He can still contribute ideas but his week to week booking sucks and makes no sense and really hasn't for a while. Ever since they took the belt off Page things have been mostly shit.
Why the fuck do you have MJF working with Wheeler Yuta? It's like putting the Rock in a feud with Crash Holly. You are not elevating the underdog, you're bringing your star down to that level. Go watch Yuta's pathetic attempt at a Fargo strut and tell me with a straight face that he deserves to be in there with MJF. Completely wasting your biggest and best star while you put Guevara in the main event... It's so dumb and I give it a month max before they lose me completely. It's Vince levels of ignoring your audience and trying to force them to like what you want them to like. I don't get it.
Wardlow vs Cage should have been a PPV match. Put some build to it as a beefcake battle and I'd have paid for that for sure. Instead they made it a shitty angle and they're probably going to bury the 2 of them in some 10 man match at the PPV. Can't believe I just saw Wardlow do a step up corkscrew moonsault tho.
Otherwise I thought it kinda sucked. I don't know if it's a symptom of the roster bloat or what but it seems like they just pick names out of a hat to have a match that week. The only people that get to cut promos are whoever the most recent "big surprise" was, but you want to have half a dozen meaningless 15 minute tag/multi matches full of high spots every week. That shit gets old quick.
I think you're forgetting that Skye Blue got to cut a promo last night! And there will be a Battle of The Asses against Tay/Jay!
Expand QuoteI'm losing patience/interest in AEW. TK needs to hire a fucking booker. He can still contribute ideas but his week to week booking sucks and makes no sense and really hasn't for a while. Ever since they took the belt off Page things have been mostly shit.
Why the fuck do you have MJF working with Wheeler Yuta? It's like putting the Rock in a feud with Crash Holly. You are not elevating the underdog, you're bringing your star down to that level. Go watch Yuta's pathetic attempt at a Fargo strut and tell me with a straight face that he deserves to be in there with MJF. Completely wasting your biggest and best star while you put Guevara in the main event... It's so dumb and I give it a month max before they lose me completely. It's Vince levels of ignoring your audience and trying to force them to like what you want them to like. I don't get it.
Wardlow vs Cage should have been a PPV match. Put some build to it as a beefcake battle and I'd have paid for that for sure. Instead they made it a shitty angle and they're probably going to bury the 2 of them in some 10 man match at the PPV. Can't believe I just saw Wardlow do a step up corkscrew moonsault tho.
Otherwise I thought it kinda sucked. I don't know if it's a symptom of the roster bloat or what but it seems like they just pick names out of a hat to have a match that week. The only people that get to cut promos are whoever the most recent "big surprise" was, but you want to have half a dozen meaningless 15 minute tag/multi matches full of high spots every week. That shit gets old quick.[close]
I don't know if it's not listening to the fans but TK's persistence to do "long term" booking means he's not very good at pivoting. Say what you want about Vince, he (mostly) knew when to change course, and the benefit of having meaningless stories that don't go anywhere is that it doesn't matter if you drop something without acknowledgement. But yeah he could really use some support. WWE just hired some guy that I think worked on the MCU just keeping track of the relationships between everyone in the universe. Someone doing that sort of thing and someone writing could be real useful. I don't know how TK feels he has time to book the whole show on top of running everything, let alone having like 3 other jobs. No wonder he looks so fried all the time.
I dont watch wrestling but always read this thread
yeah, i wasn't sure what to think of Jade at first, but she's a real goddamn blue chip find. great look, fun talker, can hold her own in the ring, and I believe who she is which unfortunately can be rare amongst a lot of women wrestlers who you can tell are playing a part, but not being the heightened version of themselves which is the foundation of a good wrestling gimmick.
I'm always wary of invincible person booking because it's such an easy thing to get backed into and then have no idea how to get out of (hi Wardlow) and maintain that mystique after you lose. Jade will do just fine though. She's only going to get better
Expand Quoteyeah, i wasn't sure what to think of Jade at first, but she's a real goddamn blue chip find. great look, fun talker, can hold her own in the ring, and I believe who she is which unfortunately can be rare amongst a lot of women wrestlers who you can tell are playing a part, but not being the heightened version of themselves which is the foundation of a good wrestling gimmick.
I'm always wary of invincible person booking because it's such an easy thing to get backed into and then have no idea how to get out of (hi Wardlow) and maintain that mystique after you lose. Jade will do just fine though. She's only going to get better[close]
Yeah I was not on board at first, I usually don't like the whole cocky, shiny gear, "im better than you" persona because it's done to death and very few people do it well but she's won me over by force. She's undeniable. I've heard a lot of people call her "black Chyna" but I think she's already better than Chyna ever was. Her promos are kinda cringe sometimes but I think that's as much an issue with the cheesy AEW backstage interview style and the people she has to work with as anything. When it's just her and she's going off she's definitely believable, so I think that's going to get better as she gets more comfortable too.
Its still kinda weird to me that she's married to Brandon Phillips. For like a decade every time I'd go to see a Pirates game in person it would be against the Reds and fucking Brandon Phillips would hit a huge homer or turn like 20 double plays or find some other way to single handedly beat us.
I didn't watch the PPV but holy fucking shit Bray Wyatt's return was the shiiiiiiiit. The lights, the music, the spotlight gimmick (huskus, mercy, sister Abigail, white rabbit, the fiend, and bray...is that the wyatt 6? ) and holy shit what a fucking pop. Thank God they had enough sense to shut up and not talk over it. I may have to start watching the fed again at least temporarily to see what he's going to do. Can't believe how quickly and thoroughly Triple H has unfucked the last year or two of weird Vinny Mac shit.
Yeah buttfart, was a compliment not a sly dig :)
Am now a fan of skye blue
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyeah, i wasn't sure what to think of Jade at first, but she's a real goddamn blue chip find. great look, fun talker, can hold her own in the ring, and I believe who she is which unfortunately can be rare amongst a lot of women wrestlers who you can tell are playing a part, but not being the heightened version of themselves which is the foundation of a good wrestling gimmick.
I'm always wary of invincible person booking because it's such an easy thing to get backed into and then have no idea how to get out of (hi Wardlow) and maintain that mystique after you lose. Jade will do just fine though. She's only going to get better[close]
Yeah I was not on board at first, I usually don't like the whole cocky, shiny gear, "im better than you" persona because it's done to death and very few people do it well but she's won me over by force. She's undeniable. I've heard a lot of people call her "black Chyna" but I think she's already better than Chyna ever was. Her promos are kinda cringe sometimes but I think that's as much an issue with the cheesy AEW backstage interview style and the people she has to work with as anything. When it's just her and she's going off she's definitely believable, so I think that's going to get better as she gets more comfortable too.
Its still kinda weird to me that she's married to Brandon Phillips. For like a decade every time I'd go to see a Pirates game in person it would be against the Reds and fucking Brandon Phillips would hit a huge homer or turn like 20 double plays or find some other way to single handedly beat us.
I didn't watch the PPV but holy fucking shit Bray Wyatt's return was the shiiiiiiiit. The lights, the music, the spotlight gimmick (huskus, mercy, sister Abigail, white rabbit, the fiend, and bray...is that the wyatt 6? ) and holy shit what a fucking pop. Thank God they had enough sense to shut up and not talk over it. I may have to start watching the fed again at least temporarily to see what he's going to do. Can't believe how quickly and thoroughly Triple H has unfucked the last year or two of weird Vinny Mac shit.[close]
its funny - all Triple H did really was hire back all the inexplicable releases. I remain cautious about Wyatt because he existed as a character, but that shit nose dived HARD whenever he went into the ring.
Do these AEW want-aways not see that there isn't room for them in WWE right now? Where the fuck would Andrade fit in now that Legado de Fantasma have debuted on the main roster with Zelina? He couldn't just "Higher Power" it and take over that group. They have a leader and they have HIS manager. I love Andrade as a wrestler, but he's going to get quickly replaced by Bandido on the AEW wrestler.
Next time I'm on my computer I'll bless this thread with some of her patreon pics. Remind me if I forget.
Expand QuoteNext time I'm on my computer I'll bless this thread with some of her patreon pics. Remind me if I forget.[close]
Sorry but we have a hard rule about not sharing sexy pics that aren’t made public by the subject and I’d count paid photos as “not public.”
It’s good to finally see some actual effort from WWE, but it’s a bummer to see AEW get so sloppy, though I do think their last handful of shows have been awesome. But I agree the constant heel/face turns and title changes have been very, very bad. Hoping this is a turning point for AEW to trim the fat and/or spread it out with a proper ROH show and focus on good, solid booking.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNext time I'm on my computer I'll bless this thread with some of her patreon pics. Remind me if I forget.[close]
Sorry but we have a hard rule about not sharing sexy pics that aren’t made public by the subject and I’d count paid photos as “not public.”
It’s good to finally see some actual effort from WWE, but it’s a bummer to see AEW get so sloppy, though I do think their last handful of shows have been awesome. But I agree the constant heel/face turns and title changes have been very, very bad. Hoping this is a turning point for AEW to trim the fat and/or spread it out with a proper ROH show and focus on good, solid booking.[close]
She posts the same stuff on her insta too, she just puts different ones from the set on patreon. Actually the ones on her insta are racier than the stuff on patreon, so she's definitely learning the art of being a carny. We're not talking about Pvz putting up a full set of butthole pics to her onlyfans (which she coincidentally did the next day after I joked about it) or Toni doing a full professional on location photo shoot. It's literally just phone pics of her in her ring gear before a match, some candid Facebook-esque pool selfies, and her doing fitness model shit. It seems to be there mostly so people can pay to send her messages and keep up to date on her indy bookings, it's basically a paid blog and the selfies are just an afterthought. I wont post them if it breaks the rules but they aren't hard to find. Don't get your hopes up though because they're pretty tame and non sexual.
I just listened to Ravishing Rick Rude’s old WCW entrance theme 5 times in a row on my drive home from work.
https://youtu.be/U9JjxjKH6Ps (https://youtu.be/U9JjxjKH6Ps)
Expand QuoteI just listened to Ravishing Rick Rude’s old WCW entrance theme 5 times in a row on my drive home from work.
https://youtu.be/U9JjxjKH6Ps (https://youtu.be/U9JjxjKH6Ps)[close]
Its on my "shower" playlist haha...typically comes on while I'm getting dressed, so I legitimately start most days dancing around my bathroom listening to that. I feel like it's been stuck in my head ever since I heard it as a kid.
That video is awesome, I've never seen that one before. Thoroughly enjoyed that.
I have a few other wrestling bangers I regularly listen to as well.
Bonnie Tyler - Ravishing (instrumental version is Hogan's forgotten theme)
Four Horsemen theme
Kaze Ni Nare (Minoru Suzuki theme)
Ikari No Jyushin (Liger theme)
And then Jane is the newest addition. Darkside of TR/midnight express 2nd theme is one of my ringtones as well.
Yeah, that's what buttfart is talking about. It's a new show, only like two or three episodes out so far.
Expand QuoteYeah, that's what buttfart is talking about. It's a new show, only like two or three episodes out so far.[close]
Cheers, thanks for living up to your name :)
There is just two episodes here….it’s all Memphis right? I think that’s sick because it was pretty much impossible seeing the territories back in the day unless you lived there….so many names I never really saw wrestle. Reminds me of 80’s pros you knew the board but never saw skate. It’ll take awhile but I hope they do Stampede….
Very cool return on Rampage tonight
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, that's what buttfart is talking about. It's a new show, only like two or three episodes out so far.[close]
Cheers, thanks for living up to your name :)[close]
No no no. They’re both called Tales from the Territories. The Vice/Dark side of the Ring one has significantly higher production value. Here’s the first ep
http://youtu.be/zQqWMYuwQ2s (http://youtu.be/zQqWMYuwQ2s)
Referring to Stu - he’s a Canadian and I thought Super Smash Bros/Dark Order were a good enough tag team
Next weeks TFTT is AWA btw
Currently working my way through almost 8 hours of the TFTT on that YouTube channel. Like the content, but the voice and editing choices kinda grate on me. I almost have to be doing something to distract me partially so it doesn’t drive me wild.
Imagine Bray with KO’s in-ring ability. He’d go down as the goat.
Dark Elevation had my favorite regular at the monthly indie show I go to, Jody Threat, in a great match against Athena tonight. She’s a Toronto local and the crowd was so behind her that they booed Athena. Hope to see her more often. She rules. She accidentally kicked me in the nuts last week when she sentonned off the apron into her opponent and into the crowd.
https://youtu.be/zxbuqWbO4_0
Expand QuoteImagine Bray with KO’s in-ring ability. He’d go down as the goat.[close]
I like KO better in all regards. I don’t quite see the appeal of trying to turn pro wrestling into spooky LOST. There’s a shelf life that these gimmicks have as evidenced with the Fiend, but WWE fans seem to get a lot out of him so god bless
Don’t miss Impact! this week if you were/are an ecw fan. We get Rhino in a match and Tommy Dreamer tagging with Buh Buh Ray Dudley in another. Also i forgot who was looking for more Black Taurus matches but he works Impact quite frequently, however I feel his best stuff is still in AAA
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteImagine Bray with KO’s in-ring ability. He’d go down as the goat.[close]
I like KO better in all regards. I don’t quite see the appeal of trying to turn pro wrestling into spooky LOST. There’s a shelf life that these gimmicks have as evidenced with the Fiend, but WWE fans seem to get a lot out of him so god bless[close]
What makes Bray different from 99.9% of spooky types for me is
A) he's actually good at being creepy
B) he evolves the gimmick when it gets stale
C) there's actual depth there.. His promos are solid and filled with symbolism and things for fans to think about and there's the shit like white rabbit stuff and FFH that are very different from the status quo.
There's only a shelf life if you rely on the supernatural gimmicks too much and never tweak or evolve it... if you're good you can totally keep it up for decades and make a career of it ala Kane/Taker/Sullivan etc. Bray is good. I have faith he'll make it work, especially if they go back to more of his cult leader persona.
Trust me I'm very sick of all the spooky shit too but I can't hold it against Bray because everyone ripped him off (badly) and oversaturated it any more than I can hold it against Rey Rey that there's so many 150lb dudes in masks doing shitty 619s today.
Definitely dig that poster btw. I might have to grab it next payday.Expand QuoteDon’t miss Impact! this week if you were/are an ecw fan. We get Rhino in a match and Tommy Dreamer tagging with Buh Buh Ray Dudley in another. Also i forgot who was looking for more Black Taurus matches but he works Impact quite frequently, however I feel his best stuff is still in AAA[close]
That was me haha. I've watched a couple of matches there and I'd agree his AAA stuff is better. I'll check out the new episode but usually Impact is hard for me to watch and I'm not sure why. I think like subconsciously it still has the TNA stink on it or something. I like their talent when they go elsewhere but never really seem to get into them while they're there.
Can't believe Tommy and Mark can even walk let alone wrestle these days. Tommy used to take the worst bumps and by that I mean he used to always land awkwardly and hard as fuck. People talk about Foley's durability but man I think Dreamer has probably taken more punishment in his career. For spectacular ones there's those huge table stack chokeslam bumps from the old eagles nest in the ECW arena as well. Can't remember if it was 911, Big Dick, or both that slammed him.
Expand QuoteDark Elevation had my favorite regular at the monthly indie show I go to, Jody Threat, in a great match against Athena tonight. She’s a Toronto local and the crowd was so behind her that they booed Athena. Hope to see her more often. She rules. She accidentally kicked me in the nuts last week when she sentonned off the apron into her opponent and into the crowd.
https://youtu.be/zxbuqWbO4_0[close]
Are those the Island Boys? AEW going for the cheap heat.
I just want to take a second and say how proud I am that this little pro wrestling thread in a skateboarding forum has reached 800 posts.
I know people like to remain anonymous here, but I'm Scotty Conley. I work for The Boardr and I own @shaqueefa_og. If one of you ever see me in public at a skate event or otherwise, please come and say whatsup. You don't have to tell me your screen name if you don't want to, just knowing that you are in this thread will be good enough for me.
Have a great fucking day everyone.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDark Elevation had my favorite regular at the monthly indie show I go to, Jody Threat, in a great match against Athena tonight. She’s a Toronto local and the crowd was so behind her that they booed Athena. Hope to see her more often. She rules. She accidentally kicked me in the nuts last week when she sentonned off the apron into her opponent and into the crowd.
https://youtu.be/zxbuqWbO4_0[close]
Are those the Island Boys? AEW going for the cheap heat.[close]
They’re actually apparently a whole different set of Tik Tok twins but yes it’s disappointing.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDark Elevation had my favorite regular at the monthly indie show I go to, Jody Threat, in a great match against Athena tonight. She’s a Toronto local and the crowd was so behind her that they booed Athena. Hope to see her more often. She rules. She accidentally kicked me in the nuts last week when she sentonned off the apron into her opponent and into the crowd.
https://youtu.be/zxbuqWbO4_0[close]
Are those the Island Boys? AEW going for the cheap heat.[close]
They’re actually apparently a whole different set of Tik Tok twins but yes it’s disappointing.[close]
I can see them doing well as heat magnets. Mean Street Posse / Enzo Amore style.
I know they do it every week but holy fuck I could watch Best Friends and Death Triangle matches for ages. This one started slow but by the end they even got me on some of the false finishes which doesn't happen often these days. I don't know how Fenix does it but he's so fucking good that he stands out in a ring with 5 of the best workers in the world.
So glad the crowd didn't give a shit about Riho because neither did I. The women's division is now just Toni wrestling someone leading just a parade of run-ins every week, it's hard to watch. They're clearly devoid of ideas and it's still an interim belt because their wildly unpopular champion got "hurt"? Just fucking strip her and start over dude.
Dalton Castle is a gem. I loved Taz trying to give him shit about playing to the crowd as he then rolls into the ring and starts throwing Jericho's around like not even the oompa loompa himself could do. Even his selling is top notch... but instead of signing him, you let Jericho kick out of his very impressive, very protected, finisher and beat him clean. Fucking stupid.
Hell of a moonsault from Page. Mox's blade job was incredibly lazy. Literally just grabbed a chair, sat down, and very obviously pulled his blade out and cut himself while the camera just sat there 2 feet away shooting it. If you're going to insist on gigging every night then at least tell production the spot you're going to do it on. I was never really into him, but I'm just bored now. Same old shit.
Hangman is gonna be fine. Just a concussion.
I'm running out of superlatives for MJF. Another crazy good promo. He's just on an entirely different level from his peers.
They should have started off last night with "It's Tuesday night and we're not sure what that means!"
Buttfart if you ever in Tampa, same goes for you.
MJF. Wow.
It's time for ROH to have their own show. Their roster is thick enough to do an hour a week and they could still have them do matches on Dark and Elevation. Just get them off Dynamite an Rampage. The champion lineup looks very strong right now.
World - Jericho
TV - Samoa Joe
Puro - Danny Garcia
Tag - FTR
Trio - Dalton Castle and The Boys (which I love as well)
That's a solid group. Jericho can go back to AEW after he drops the belt. That reminds me I came across a few Thrillseekers matches watching Smoky Mountain Wrestling on WWE network. He was already a decent promo in 1993 which was his 3rd year working. Lance storm was already a flavorless potato on the mic and called it Rocky Mountain Wrestling before correcting himself.
I like Riho, only because she is just so small and adorable.
Jericho is having a career year.
Hah I never see Tony as ignoring his audience. Crowds were over for wheeler and thsts why he got the push, but you see it the exact opposite way.
Also anyone see that brutal Athena match on one of the darks. Some strong style joshi shit in that one woof
Just watched that episode of elevation.
Aside from when Athena threw her straight to the floor, it just looked like she was working a little stiff as a reaction to getting boo'd.
She did look better working heel though. Her frame is built for some strong style heel work imo.
Island Boys were comical.
That may be the hottest The Bunny has ever looked though, and I wish Butcher and the Blade were higher up on the card.
Aew is back in LA January 11th y’all know I’m already thereee
The thing that takes the sting out the Athena match is seeing that’s she’s done the suplex to outside the ring on Liv Morgan in NXT and if you see right after Athena pins her, Jody has a big ass smile on her face before Athena helps her up and raises her hand for the crowd to cheer. I think it might be the old wrestling adage that no one hits you harder than your friends
Back in the day Philly used to get GWF shows on public access. Are used to watch Harlem heat when they were known as the Ebony Experience, and guys like James Johnson when he was known as Moadib.
Expand QuoteThe thing that takes the sting out the Athena match is seeing that’s she’s done the suplex to outside the ring on Liv Morgan in NXT and if you see right after Athena pins her, Jody has a big ass smile on her face before Athena helps her up and raises her hand for the crowd to cheer. I think it might be the old wrestling adage that no one hits you harder than your friends[close]
That part didn't bother me because she seemed like she knew it was coming and posted up off her to make sure she cleared the ropes. As long as they're cooperating and moving through the match I usually don't read too much into working stiff. Like I said the stuff that made me kinda look twice was the quick kickouts and I thought Jody might have caught a live round in that scramble, but thats about it. Brutal match though, it reminded me of something you'd see on one of the good female indys like Eve or Shimmer.
Jealous that LA is getting another show before Pittsburgh. I know the issue is likely that they're doing construction on and around the building they run in, but I'm pretty confident they could run the hockey arena downtown if they put a good card together. They drew 7 or 8k last time (albeit with a lot of discounts and some papering) with Punk vs Dustin and that's about what the fed drew last time they were here (in the new place). Wouldn't be surprised if wwe have some kind of agreement with the building where they'd be able to veto others from running it though, I think the NWA was kind of frozen out of the old civic arena for a large part of the 80s until the Dusty vs Bubba cage match that I believe is the largest wrestling crowd anyone has drawn in Pittsburgh due to the fact they hung two new balconies with about a thousand seats after Bruno retired. So all his sellouts were like 15xxx and the NWA one was 16xxxx or something.
There's your obscure prowrestling trivia for today Atiba haha.Expand QuoteBack in the day Philly used to get GWF shows on public access. Are used to watch Harlem heat when they were known as the Ebony Experience, and guys like James Johnson when he was known as Moadib.[close]
Was that the one that used to be on ESPN on the early 90s? I remember seeing Stevie Ray as a single there and he was bigger than book so when they went to WCW for years I assumed he was the star of the team haha. Amazing how your perception changes as you get older haha. I need to look that up and see if I can find a library of the tv shows.
Wow, autocorrect really ruined my sentences. I didn’t have ESPN at the time. This was on channel 48, public access tv. 48 would go on to show ECW in ‘96 onward.
Ahmed Johnson was really stiff as Moadib.
Saw open twitter Bray Wyatt described as Taylor Swift for men and it all made sense
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Wow, autocorrect really ruined my sentences. I didn’t have ESPN at the time. This was on channel 48, public access tv. 48 would go on to show ECW in ‘96 onward.
Ahmed Johnson was really stiff as Moadib.[close]
Dude I put on an episode yesterday and within 10 minutes I was hooked. I had totally forgotten this fed existed, they used to play it every afternoon on ESPN but it aired right before I got home from school so I would only get to watch it on holidays or if I stayed home sick. We were dumb kids so we always thought it was lame because it wasn't WWF, but watching it now it's awesome. As if I needed more old wrestling to watch haha.
There's so many future WWF guys on these shows which is great, but I love coming across the obscure stuff so I was happy to see one of the regulars is Mike "Butch" Blackheart, aka the jobber that wouldn't stay down against Spivey and Sid and got the shit beat out of him for it.
I haven't come across Ahmed yet but my favorite one so far has been godfather in his Soul Taker gimmick. He was fucking huge back then. First episode I watched also had waltman as Lightning Kid and Jerry Lynn who was a heel for some reason. They also have Skandor Akbar doing straight man commentary/hosting which is super strange to see but he's very well spoken so it works.
Thank you for reminding me that this exists. My public access/antenna wrestling shows were USWA and then later ECW, but ECW was on came on at like random times between 11pm and 3am and I couldn't always stay up to watch it. When I turned 14 and started working one of the first things I bought was a better VCR and a stack of tapes so I could just tape that block every weekend and hope I caught it.
11:33 Ahmed Johnson is so green that this match will make you cringe. He almost killed that jobber too.
Skandor Akbar didn’t deserve having to make him look credible.
Gentleman Chris Adams vs JBL though.
Just revisited this gem today (thanks Reddit)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ato_jdZkvG0&t=249s&pp=2AH5AZACAQ%3D%3D
I watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.
Expand QuoteI watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.[close]
I work with an ex-WWE guy and anytime I use the term Jobber he corrects me with Enhancement Talent and now I can’t Unhear it
I watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.
Expand QuoteI watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.[close]
I work with an ex-WWE guy and anytime I use the term Jobber he corrects me with Enhancement Talent and now I can’t Unhear it
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.[close]
I work with an ex-WWE guy and anytime I use the term Jobber he corrects me with Enhancement Talent and now I can’t Unhear it[close]
WHO?
Expand QuoteI watched NXT last night and loved The Rock’s daughter getting unmasked as a member of that hipster Wyatt family stable with Grizzled Young Veterans and the guy from CZW.
NXT is looking promising.
Speaking of CZW, I think Jon Moxley’s been overexposed. Like 1998 Willy Santos levels of overexposed.
Serious question…
Why do I see guys in the comments of old wrestling videos on YouTube writing descriptively perverted things about jobbers getting humiliated (I.e. Firebreaker Chip, WCW Special Forces, Van Hammer, Jim Powers, etc.)?
Is there some kind of weird jobber fetish that’s a thing?
They’ve ruined old episodes of WCW Worldwide because of it.[close]
Agree with you on Mox. He's got a simple style that works with a lot of opponents but I feel like if you've seen one Mox match you've seen them all. I'm actually not at all excited to see him wrestle Penta and you guys know how much of a Penta mark I am. I get that he's popular in the back and they needed stability but I think it's time for him to take that vacation.
To address your serious question...yes it is an actual fetish hahaha. I had the same reaction when I first started coming across it years ago. It's not just jobbers, but they do seem quite partial to them. There's a community around it and if you watch enough random old matches you'll come across like full discussions about it or people asking and them explaining it.
I remember having the same sort of "is this supposed to be a joke and I just don't get it?" reaction when I first noticed them but I guess it shouldn't really be a surprise that hypermasculine muscle men rolling around in skimpy, flashy outfits would become an object of desire for gay men though. If you swapped Lycra for leather you'd have Tom of Finland's perfect world.
Dynamite might be good tonight. MJF promo, main event Penta in what will likely be a blood bath, and FTR vs SWIOG all sound like can't miss segments. Also hoping Jamie Hayter just brutally squashes Riho and sends her back to dark where she belongs.
Jim Neidhart? (Most meta reference ever).
Welp it finally happened. I was so annoyed by Sammy Guevara that I turned off Dynamite last night. I downloaded it afterwards and skipped past that match. I just can't allow myself to contribute to his ratings anymore. He's far and away the worst thing about AEW for me and has been for a while now. I'm going to do my best to just ignore him and hope he goes away.
Rest of the card -
MJF as an insincere, insecure wannabe face might be even better than as a dastardly heel. I can't wait to see him win the belt and then kick Mox in the dick and punch Regal out with the ring.
Renee has done more quality interview segments in two weeks than Marvez and DDPs daughter have done in the past 3 years combined. What a pro, I could watch a 10 minute segment like that every week.
FTR vs swiog was pretty meh. Im kinda burnt out on the uber dramatic 10 false finish matches FTR always has. Keith and Swerve work so well together that it's a shame they're both amazing singles as well.
Oh goddamnit is that Matt Taven.. Wardlow has to wrestle fucking Matt Taven. What the actual fuck Tony? You did such a good job building him and now he's at the bottom of the toy bin. Please. No more tags, no more ROH guys, when's the last time he defended his belt against a credible threat?
Riho vs Hayter... Yeah I just can't do it. I tried. She's 95 pounds. Maybe against other tiny Joshi, definitely not against Hayter. It's every bit as awful as Marko Stunt to me but people mark out because Kenny likes her.
Penta vs Mox was decent. They mostly played the hits but Penta always does at least one thing that makes me fully mark out and this was no exception. Dude is just one of the most consistent and skilled workers I've ever seen. I legit feel like he can pull off any spot you can dream up, and make it look cool to boot. Can't believe no one bled though. Especially after Penta vs Villano IV at triplemania ended up looking like real life Mortal Kombat
https://twitter.com/i/status/1581508133893320704
And in keeping with the fighting game theme, afterwards Penta looked one of like the little pictures that pop up after you beat someone in Street Fighter 2.
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Jim Neidhart? (Most meta reference ever).[close]
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One of those gimmicks that reminds you that Vince McMahon is, and probably always has been, absolutely insane. We need a 3 hour DSOTR special where people tell Vince stories and a panel of psychiatrists tries to figure out what the fuck is wrong with him.
Firebreaker Chip makes sense. Somehow I'm not shocked that the beefcake in suspenders and a fire helmet came off as homoerotic to some people hahaha. He also had a partner who dressed like a GI Joe figure and looked like Vince McMahon's wet dream, but I can't remember what his name was. The team was called the Patriots but they looked more like the second act of a Chippendale show.
I found a ted dibiase tonka pillow buddy at the thrift store for $4 and now my fiance wants it gone because it 'doesn't fit her aesthetic' 😁
Well, Ted DiBiase is kind of a piece of shit.
Expand QuoteI found a ted dibiase tonka pillow buddy at the thrift store for $4 and now my fiance wants it gone because it 'doesn't fit her aesthetic' 😁[close]
Welp I'm sorry it didn't work out with her but at least you found out before you got married.
I too have a DiBiase one, I found it in an abandoned house. I told this story in here before but I had one on my bed from childhood all the way up until my late teens because it had a hole in it that was the perfect place to hide my weed and pipe. I think all my friends thought I was fucking it haha.Expand QuoteWell, Ted DiBiase is kind of a piece of shit.[close]
Not kind of, massive piece of shit. Defrauding the most vulnerable people in the country and gloating about it. And he didn't even get a slap on the wrist. Total evangelical conman scumbag carny piece of shit.
Hell of a wrestler though.
@PatrickSkateman I just went down a rabbit hole like the YouTube comment thing, except on wrestling twitter. Wardlow has some absolutely insane, obsessive (like 3k tweets in a month obsessive) female fans. Like scary "I'm going to dress up like you and kidnap you and bite your dick off so we can be soul bound" type shit. I looked at 3 or 4 profiles and they were all equally batshit but in entirely different ways. It honestly makes the old dudes writing prose about wanting to take a lengthy piledriver from Dutch Mantell's sweaty thighs seem well adjusted by comparison.
Gonna try to watch Raw after the game. We'll see how this goes.
I found a ted dibiase tonka pillow buddy at the thrift store for $4 and now my fiance wants it gone because it 'doesn't fit her aesthetic' 😁
Expand QuoteI found a ted dibiase tonka pillow buddy at the thrift store for $4 and now my fiance wants it gone because it 'doesn't fit her aesthetic' 😁[close]
Get the ring back she ain't the one.
Expand QuoteI found a ted dibiase tonka pillow buddy at the thrift store for $4 and now my fiance wants it gone because it 'doesn't fit her aesthetic' 😁[close]
Get the ring back she ain't the one.
ITS WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!
Anybody got an idea who the "Mystery ROH Champion" is that will be fighting Jericho tonight?
Expand QuoteITS WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!
Anybody got an idea who the "Mystery ROH Champion" is that will be fighting Jericho tonight?[close]
Cheeseburger? Return of Colt? Gresham?
There is just two episodes here….it’s all Memphis right? I think that’s sick because it was pretty much impossible seeing the territories back in the day unless you lived there….so many names I never really saw wrestle. Reminds me of 80’s pros you knew the board but never saw skate. It’ll take awhile but I hope they do Stampede….
ITS WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!
Anybody got an idea who the "Mystery ROH Champion" is that will be fighting Jericho tonight?
Man.
For me, Dynamite was a big miss last night. The fake sting was stupid to reveal Cole Carter and then Jeff FUCKING JARRETT. A big no thanks on that.
Jamie Hayter was wearing a 917 hoody, that was cool.
The Daddy Ass B-Day party kinda dragged.
Looks like Tony owed some goodwill to the boys in the back putting Colt Cabana out there. And then he almost dropped Jericho on his neck. Jeez.
Three way match was OK enough, Hungle Boy takes out Luchasaurus so the Juiceman can retain the belt. Is Death Triangle gonna break up?
Fell asleep for the main event but man I think Brian Cage can be a lot bigger than what they use him for. He is too big to be jobbing to dudes the same size as him weekly. give that man some wins.
Expand QuoteThere is just two episodes here….it’s all Memphis right? I think that’s sick because it was pretty much impossible seeing the territories back in the day unless you lived there….so many names I never really saw wrestle. Reminds me of 80’s pros you knew the board but never saw skate. It’ll take awhile but I hope they do Stampede….[close]
@j....soy..... The Stampede episode is up on vice now. If you need a link lemme know. It's pretty good. I don't want to spoil too much but my basic assessment is that Bret Hart seems like a really cool dude, and Abdullah is a shameless lying carny piece of shit. As if he didn't embarrass himself bad enough on the Brody episode, he actively asks Bret for money multiple times just while they're filming. I can only imagine how bad it was when the cameras were off. People are far too kind to Abby, everything I've seen or heard about the man behind the character points to him being a travesty of a human being who will do anything for money.
Yeah, Abby still draws…..i enjoyed this episode, they went in a direction I didn’t really expect ie. older Stampede vs. Bulldogs, Chris Benoit, Brian Pillman, Harts….they were right about the heels, they had a ton but none of them really very far in North America. I’m sure it’s for a few reasons but I suspect it was a lot of the Harts looking after their guys after the territory died.
Yeah I watched the "ucey" segment and it was so great watching the whole bloodline try not to laugh at sami.This was such a great moment
old funky ass abdullah the butcher wouldn't let kamala make any money in japan. fat ass abdullah thebutcher wanted to be the only black wrestler in japan.Expand QuoteThere is just two episodes here….it’s all Memphis right? I think that’s sick because it was pretty much impossible seeing the territories back in the day unless you lived there….so many names I never really saw wrestle. Reminds me of 80’s pros you knew the board but never saw skate. It’ll take awhile but I hope they do Stampede….[close]
@j....soy..... The Stampede episode is up on vice now. If you need a link lemme know. It's pretty good. I don't want to spoil too much but my basic assessment is that Bret Hart seems like a really cool dude, and Abdullah is a shameless lying carny piece of shit. As if he didn't embarrass himself bad enough on the Brody episode, he actively asks Bret for money multiple times just while they're filming. I can only imagine how bad it was when the cameras were off. People are far too kind to Abby, everything I've seen or heard about the man behind the character points to him being a travesty of a human being who will do anything for money.Expand QuoteITS WEDNESDAY NIGHT!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!
Anybody got an idea who the "Mystery ROH Champion" is that will be fighting Jericho tonight?[close]
Hmm... Trying to think who's still active and has worked with them. They're in Baltimore so it could be like anyone from the NE indies but Tony has been doing a great job of making me groan with his decision making lately so the logical choice is Matt Taven. I guess Daniels would make sense too since he already works there. Then again Tony loves surprises and Jericho so it'll probably be someone like Suzuki that Jericho will want to wrestle.
Rest of the card could be fun... OC vs Rey Fenix vs Luchasaurus will be a spot fest and Samoa Joe vs Brian Cage could be interesting. Don't care about the Mox match. I understand that he just likes to wrestle but I'm just sick of watching him "defend" the belt every week. Appreciate what he does but I can't wait to see him drop the belt to MJF and let us see if the kid is as good as he says he is. Darby vs Lethal will probably be good too. Maybe Darby will fulfill Jeff Hardy's destiny and do a Swanton off Satnam's brow ridge.
Expand QuoteYeah, Abby still draws…..i enjoyed this episode, they went in a direction I didn’t really expect ie. older Stampede vs. Bulldogs, Chris Benoit, Brian Pillman, Harts….they were right about the heels, they had a ton but none of them really very far in North America. I’m sure it’s for a few reasons but I suspect it was a lot of the Harts looking after their guys after the territory died.[close]
Yeah I actually kind of wonder how much of the content is driven by the guests and how much is them getting guests who they know will have stories. Now that you mention it they didn't do anything from after they resurrected it in the late 80s with all the young talent that ended up spreading to the big 2.
I've actually been watching some of those 87 shows recently, the stuff with the VC express and Gama and young Owen when he was like the purest white meat baby face ever. I didn't even realize that Keiichi Yamada was a young unmasked Jushin Liger until I watched a match against the VC express and was like "man that guy is really good I should look him up" haha. I really enjoy it, definitely one of the more enjoyable weekly tvs for me. I guess some of it is pretty bad but in an endearing way, like Jason the Terrible and Makhan Singh are awful gimmicks but I love them. The commentary is fantastic too. Ed Whalen is basically the Canuck Lance Russell..... Ohhhh it's gonna be a ring a ding dong dandy!
Shibata had a week Free and asked to a match with Orange and a match with Danielson so they made it happen. It’s fine it’s fun.
Expand QuoteShibata had a week Free and asked to a match with Orange and a match with Danielson so they made it happen. It’s fine it’s fun.[close]
I mean he could have said he had a week off and wanted them to film him playing in traffic, but it doesn't mean it should happen. Sometimes you have to save people from themselves. When you read how close he came to dying and the crazy shit they had to do to save him, it's just not worth the risk.
I don't need to see another circle of panicked wrestlers freaking out because their hero took a normal bump and started turning blue like Misawa or Perro Aguayo. That's traumatizing as fuck for the crowd and if that shit happens on a PPV here in the states it will fundamentally change the industry and it won't be for the better. I would not be surprised if it completely ruined the company. It just seems completely not worth it for an undercard match.
It's no different than Flair wrestling with a pacemaker as far as I'm concerned, actually maybe even worse since brains are far more serious and difficult to actually work on when something bad happens. I watched the Flair thing through my fingers and I don't even like him. I'm definitely not taking a chance on watching someone I respect like Shibata die in front of me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteShibata had a week Free and asked to a match with Orange and a match with Danielson so they made it happen. It’s fine it’s fun.[close]
I mean he could have said he had a week off and wanted them to film him playing in traffic, but it doesn't mean it should happen. Sometimes you have to save people from themselves. When you read how close he came to dying and the crazy shit they had to do to save him, it's just not worth the risk.
I don't need to see another circle of panicked wrestlers freaking out because their hero took a normal bump and started turning blue like Misawa or Perro Aguayo. That's traumatizing as fuck for the crowd and if that shit happens on a PPV here in the states it will fundamentally change the industry and it won't be for the better. I would not be surprised if it completely ruined the company. It just seems completely not worth it for an undercard match.
It's no different than Flair wrestling with a pacemaker as far as I'm concerned, actually maybe even worse since brains are far more serious and difficult to actually work on when something bad happens. I watched the Flair thing through my fingers and I don't even like him. I'm definitely not taking a chance on watching someone I respect like Shibata die in front of me.[close]
I’ll be honest I don’t know much about his health other than the accident, but I figured he was fine now to get cleared. I put it in the Sting category
Just watched the crown jewel press conference. Fucking disgusting. The crowd chanted "we want Sami" as if they don't know the reason he's not there.
Kinda questioning whether I want to start watching this again now to be honest. I had hoped they'd at least be less evil under HHH but then I see him and Steph up there thanking and giving belts to dictators and promoting Jake Paul and shit and its pretty hard to want to give them my money or attention.
Why isn't Sami there? I'm not aware. Just protested going?
I watched the PPV and really for real, how is Logan Paul one of the best performers on the roster?
Jake's worked punches looked bad but they were his first ones so we'll give him a little pass.
Brock v Booby wasn't that good but def better than Braun and Omos.
How long does Bray talk about nothing before he wrestles?
Ahhh yes, I just found that out. Thanks.
I just can't believe they flew Bray all the way there to cut a promo that would have been just fine on RAW tonight.
Expand QuoteAhhh yes, I just found that out. Thanks.
I just can't believe they flew Bray all the way there to cut a promo that would have been just fine on RAW tonight.[close]
They flew a sumo wrestler out the first time bc they requested an appearance by Yokozuma
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAhhh yes, I just found that out. Thanks.
I just can't believe they flew Bray all the way there to cut a promo that would have been just fine on RAW tonight.[close]
They flew a sumo wrestler out the first time bc they requested an appearance by Yokozuma[close]
Should also point out that Yokozuna had been dead for over a decade at that point. So yeah, in addition to being racist, bloody dictators they don't even actually watch the product.
I do have to say I think it's kind of hilarious that I read Logan Paul blew his knee out doing a buckshot lariat? Didn't Punk fuck his knee up trying to do one too or was that just kayfabe? Either way, just goes to show that unless you're used to cowboy shit it's best to leave that one to Hangman (or Nick Jackson trolling him).
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I just can't believe they flew Bray all the way there to cut a promo that would have been just fine on RAW tonight.[close]
They flew a sumo wrestler out the first time bc they requested an appearance by Yokozuma[close]
Should also point out that Yokozuna had been dead for over a decade at that point. So yeah, in addition to being racist, bloody dictators they don't even actually watch the product.
I do have to say I think it's kind of hilarious that I read Logan Paul blew his knee out doing a buckshot lariat? Didn't Punk fuck his knee up trying to do one too or was that just kayfabe? Either way, just goes to show that unless you're used to cowboy shit it's best to leave that one to Hangman (or Nick Jackson trolling him).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAhhh yes, I just found that out. Thanks.
I just can't believe they flew Bray all the way there to cut a promo that would have been just fine on RAW tonight.[close]
They flew a sumo wrestler out the first time bc they requested an appearance by Yokozuma[close]
Should also point out that Yokozuna had been dead for over a decade at that point. So yeah, in addition to being racist, bloody dictators they don't even actually watch the product.
I do have to say I think it's kind of hilarious that I read Logan Paul blew his knee out doing a buckshot lariat? Didn't Punk fuck his knee up trying to do one too or was that just kayfabe? Either way, just goes to show that unless you're used to cowboy shit it's best to leave that one to Hangman (or Nick Jackson trolling him).[close]
The Buckshot Lariat is a terrible finisher that doesn’t make much sense. Lariats for guys Adam Page’s size are silly.
For believability’s sake, Stan Hansen and JBL fit the lariat perfectly.
Oh man the Austin Theory shit is hilarious. He about to disappear.
Oh man the Austin Theory shit is hilarious. He about to disappear.
Expand QuoteOh man the Austin Theory shit is hilarious. He about to disappear.[close]
Hey man shits harder when the new boss doesn't want to fuck you like the old one did! He should just change his name to "Vince's muscle twink" at this point.
They're making a movie about the Von Erichs and just announced MJF is going to be in it. Atiba you know who he's playing? I know you're much better informed about that kind of thing than I am.
So yeah TFTT is kind of what I expected although I know everyone except Rocky Iaukea. Definitely a favor to Dwayne but the stories are great. It's a chapter of wrestling history I was never really exposed to as a kid so I'm always excited when I get to see shit like this. It was great to see Bruno. It's weird that he's not a regular on the podcast scene or something since he can still talk his ass off haha. Also, I genuinely didn't realise Lars Anderson was still alive. The King Curtis story was hilarious. I can see why Sullivan and him got along so well. Kevin Sullivan cracks me up... He's just the walking embodiment of carny wrestling and he's perfect for these shows.
Next week is Portland. That should be a killer episode, loads of insanity that took place there in the 80s. I would almost prefer a run of 2 hour episodes for like Portland, Memphis, Dallas, and Florida. I feel like there's probably a lot of amazing shit that's going to get left out just by necessity.
Dark continues to be the best AEW show. Taz and Excalibur alone without Tony or Ian or JR, the matches are short and crisp, you get to see people other than the usual 25-30 guys in Tony's toybox. Dailys place is a really good wrestling venue too, the crowd isn't too smarky or trying to get itself over all show like half the dynamites have been lately. It seems like they're changing Cass' character (he's now being referred to as "Big Bill") already which I assume means that the firm is either dead in the water or heading the way of the dork order. Anna Jay looks so much better in this gimmick. Also, fuck you Hungle Boy. Brian Pillman Jr is really leaning into this Kenny Omega cosplay and it's not pretty. Griff Garrison can work pretty good though... there's something there if the right person gets ahold of him. Hobbs is a star and they need to get him in a program with Wardlow ASAP. Kingston got the biggest pop of the night. AR Fox was on and did some really good looking shit... I'd love to see him become a dark regular and revisit that legendary swerve match at some point.
I don’t unfortunately, but I will look into it. That seems to be the real reason he was away and got so hugs
Also, I believe Hobbs IS in a program, with Wardlow.
8 man was a little bit too much of a choreographed clusterfuck for me.
Too bad the MJF thing was a pretape. Looks like the firm is indeed kinda dead but I feel like this is all a setup for him to interfere and help him win the belt.
Eddie vs Ethan is gonna end with Eddie getting himself dq'ed here. Putting money on it now.
Edit - I was wrong. Knew he wasn't winning but didn't think they'd have him eat another pin.
Expand Quote8 man was a little bit too much of a choreographed clusterfuck for me.
Too bad the MJF thing was a pretape. Looks like the firm is indeed kinda dead but I feel like this is all a setup for him to interfere and help him win the belt.
Eddie vs Ethan is gonna end with Eddie getting himself dq'ed here. Putting money on it now.
Edit - I was wrong. Knew he wasn't winning but didn't think they'd have him eat another pin.[close]
I’ve been going to the gym instead of watching AEW and it sounds like it’s the same spot fest and dialogue. The only tag team I enjoy watching in those tornado spot fest matches are Silver and Reynolds.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote8 man was a little bit too much of a choreographed clusterfuck for me.
Too bad the MJF thing was a pretape. Looks like the firm is indeed kinda dead but I feel like this is all a setup for him to interfere and help him win the belt.
Eddie vs Ethan is gonna end with Eddie getting himself dq'ed here. Putting money on it now.
Edit - I was wrong. Knew he wasn't winning but didn't think they'd have him eat another pin.[close]
I’ve been going to the gym instead of watching AEW and it sounds like it’s the same spot fest and dialogue. The only tag team I enjoy watching in those tornado spot fest matches are Silver and Reynolds.[close]
Yeah it's really stale and every time it seems like the booking is back on track they go and fuck it up again. It seems like Tony is really out of ideas. I don't think bringing in slap nuts is going to fix anything either, though I don't think he's formally in the booking process... Yet. Given the fact he's a carny and Tony's a mark, I give it 3 months before he's either in the title picture or running the book.
The stated reason for bringing him in is to help with the live events since apparently attendance is down but I don't think you needed an outside consultant to tell you running the same towns over and over is going to kill them. This ain't Memphis.
And Mox sucks as a champ. I hadn't really noticed it as much before I started watching all the old stuff but his whole cool guy persona and the way he just tries to bury whoever he's up against when he's on the mic is lame. A good champ will put his opponent over and make it sound like they're in for a hell of a fight but Mox just does the "I'm big and tough and you're a skinny little geek" shit over and over and people keep cheering for him for some reason.
Anyways a little levity for you Pat....You'll never guess who this masked singer is!
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaskedSingerFOX/status/1590434309672140800
Man I just listened to a Cornette podcast where he has the AEW website pulled up and he just goes down the roster from A to Z and decides whether to keep them or dump them. It's really funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV7-vAzokDw
Man he fucking hates anybody that has any relation to Kenny Omega.
Yes, love Botchamania.
FYI - Dangerous Breed on Peacock 11/22. It’s a true crime doc series on Teddy Hart
Anyone see Card Subject to Change? It has a whole documentary on Trent Acid.
I loved Wrestling With Shadows. The part with Stu Hart methodically making the student who made fun of him squeal while whispering play by play of how he’s stretching him always makes me laugh.
I really liked Timothy Thatcher’s sadistic Stu Hart gimmick in NXT.
ITS WEDNESDAY NIGHT! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!
It means I fell asleep 15 minutes into TFTT last night and I'll make it through about 30 minutes of Dynamite tonight! I always look forward to checking this thread on Thursday mornings to see what I missed.
“There’ll be peace when you are gone.”
The shade thrown with that entrance theme.
Maybe Wardlow gets a shot because he is one of the few in AEW that already has a clean win over MJF. That could be a good call back maybe for one fued and MJF cheats this time and gets the win back.
I feel like the only way MJF will stay heel is his cheating methods have to start getting gnarlier and gnarlier. Guarantee he gets the biggest pop when they announce him tonight, even though he cheated to beat their beloved jon moxley.
i did like in the match when he did the ironic babyface stuff it was great. Posing for the crowd. We are really witnessing one of the great ones in the beginning stages of a legendary run.
Might sound like a weird question, but I’m looking for someone to be a historical basis here:
Who was the best/coolest black wrestler of the late territory days (late 70s/early 80s)
Junk Yard Dog was who popped first into my mind but maybe that’s because I associate Ron Simmons with the Fed so much (I know about Doom). Guys like Bearcat and Butch Reed I kinda have heard about recently, and Koko and Kamala seemed maybe too gimmick-based but this time period isn’t really my forte.
In stampede he was prolly the best heel….WWF always made guys look like cornballs..
I never saw JYD pre-WWF but I suspect he was better. I always thought the precursor to Butch Reed and Ron Simmons was Big Cat Ernie Ladd…
In stampede he was prolly the best heel….WWF always made guys look like cornballs..
I never saw JYD pre-WWF but I suspect he was better. I always thought the precursor to Butch Reed and Ron Simmons was Big Cat Ernie Ladd…
Expand QuoteIn stampede he was prolly the best heel….WWF always made guys look like cornballs..
I never saw JYD pre-WWF but I suspect he was better. I always thought the precursor to Butch Reed and Ron Simmons was Big Cat Ernie Ladd…[close]
Bad News Brown in the WWF was dope. I look at him as the first black heel to use psychology in an era where black wrestlers were lumped into pure brute force. Using the sewer rat to counteract Jake’s python was brilliant.
Rocky Johnson too….
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Samoa Joe do the walkaway dodge on one of Darby's dives.
Getting plenty of JYD on the season finale Tuesday. A Mid South ep!
FTR and The Briscoes killed it again.
Expand QuoteFTR and The Briscoes killed it again.[close]
The Briscoes are tag team royalty. Way better than any AEW tag team.
They’d fit well on the new HHH WWE.
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The Briscoes are tag team royalty. Way better than any AEW tag team.
They’d fit well on the new HHH WWE.[close]
Getting milk sprayed on them?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteFTR and The Briscoes killed it again.[close]
The Briscoes are tag team royalty. Way better than any AEW tag team.
They’d fit well on the new HHH WWE.[close]
Getting milk sprayed on them?[close]
They’d pull it off. They’re always eating snacks in their promos.
They have a good combination of in-ring and character work.
Also, Otis’ character was meant for the milk spray hi-jinx.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteFTR and The Briscoes killed it again.[close]
The Briscoes are tag team royalty. Way better than any AEW tag team.
They’d fit well on the new HHH WWE.[close]
Getting milk sprayed on them?[close]
They’d pull it off. They’re always eating snacks in their promos.
They have a good combination of in-ring and character work.
Also, Otis’ character was meant for the milk spray hi-jinx.[close]
I don’t know. You seem to have a much higher esteem of WWE than I do. I think if HHH wanted them (or was able to use them) he would have when he was raiding ROH for NXT
I'm still trying to give Tony some time to grow into the role. He really is learning on the fly without a shred of wrestling experience. I read in an interview that when the company started he had a clear vision and already decided the first 4 champs would be Jericho, Mox, Omega, and Hangman with a clear idea on how to get to all those places. I feel like everything was good/great until the point CM Punk won the title. They had a lot of steam at that point and lost it all with Punk getting injured, coming back, winning the belt back, the media scrum fiasco, having to ditch what would have probably been a 6 month Punk/MJF fued also while not having a returning from injury Omega and Young Bucks. One PPV took 4 of your top guys off the card for months and obviously there was plans for them that had to be scrapped. So yes, it does look like a lot of on the fly booking, but dude has kinda been going through it with his roster. He may be to blame for some of that but it is what it is.
Got tickets to Dynamite in Winnipeg. Super pissed at ticketmaster for price gouging, but oh well I'm sure I'll forget about it well before the show in March
Excited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.
Expand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I can’t imagine lesnar getting the workers belt. That’d be so insulting that I would think Vince is back
Kevin Owens and Sami are definitely going to be the ones to take the tag belts off the usos. Cody has a better chance of doing that than balor. Isn’t he kind of overshadowed in his own group by rhea and dom?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I can’t imagine lesnar getting the workers belt. That’d be so insulting that I would think Vince is back
Kevin Owens and Sami are definitely going to be the ones to take the tag belts off the usos. Cody has a better chance of doing that than balor. Isn’t he kind of overshadowed in his own group by rhea and dom?[close]
You would think that but he's the Edge of that group. Rhea Ripley & Dominick are going to break off at some point as this faction has been a waste. There is nothing interesting about it. They wanted it to be the Brood & that never would have happened. Apparently the whole "Demon" Balor is going to come to fruition.
Excited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I can’t imagine lesnar getting the workers belt. That’d be so insulting that I would think Vince is back
Kevin Owens and Sami are definitely going to be the ones to take the tag belts off the usos. Cody has a better chance of doing that than balor. Isn’t he kind of overshadowed in his own group by rhea and dom?[close]
You would think that but he's the Edge of that group. Rhea Ripley & Dominick are going to break off at some point as this faction has been a waste. There is nothing interesting about it. They wanted it to be the Brood & that never would have happened. Apparently the whole "Demon" Balor is going to come to fruition.[close]
Right, but Balors too cold storyline-wise to be the One and he already resurrected the Demon to go against Roman and had that embarrassing ass finish.
Scuttlebutt is Roman facing/retaining against The Rock on night one of WM and then dropping to Cody - which is classic WWE booking - gotta still protect Roman a little even when he losee
Expand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I can’t imagine lesnar getting the workers belt. That’d be so insulting that I would think Vince is back
Kevin Owens and Sami are definitely going to be the ones to take the tag belts off the usos. Cody has a better chance of doing that than balor. Isn’t he kind of overshadowed in his own group by rhea and dom?[close]
You would think that but he's the Edge of that group. Rhea Ripley & Dominick are going to break off at some point as this faction has been a waste. There is nothing interesting about it. They wanted it to be the Brood & that never would have happened. Apparently the whole "Demon" Balor is going to come to fruition.[close]
Right, but Balors too cold storyline-wise to be the One and he already resurrected the Demon to go against Roman and had that embarrassing ass finish.
Scuttlebutt is Roman facing/retaining against The Rock on night one of WM and then dropping to Cody - which is classic WWE booking - gotta still protect Roman a little even when he losee[close]
I hear you with Balor but I think they are going to give it a go again.
If your Cody theory is right, I’m thinking he’ll just win the Rumble & take it at Wrestlemania. Did you see the whole potential spoiler of The Rock have an Undisputed replica in his collection despite never winning it?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.[close]
I just see potential in LA Knight. Almost like a better Mr. Kennedy or maybe just a heavy, high end midcarder.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.[close]
I just see potential in LA Knight. Almost like a better Mr. Kennedy or maybe just a heavy, high end midcarder.[close]
I liked him in TNA, but that also means he's still got a bit of TNA stink on him hahaha. Since I like euro indy shit sometimes I was briefly into Grado and he had a so-bad-it's-good program with him a few years back when Grado had his TNA run. It was one of those things that made sure ill forever have a soft spot for him but also probably never be able to really take him seriously haha.
I mostly just watch wwe highlights because I honestly don't really enjoy like the vast majority of the fed product these days and there is no group of fans as consistently infuriatingly stupid as WWE fans. They've somehow turned Mandy Rose taking some shitty shower pics where you can't even see her nips into "she made hardcore porn". I've legit seen more explicit pics in rolling stone. When did mainstream wrestling fans get so fucking soft?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.[close]
I just see potential in LA Knight. Almost like a better Mr. Kennedy or maybe just a heavy, high end midcarder.[close]
I liked him in TNA, but that also means he's still got a bit of TNA stink on him hahaha. Since I like euro indy shit sometimes I was briefly into Grado and he had a so-bad-it's-good program with him a few years back when Grado had his TNA run. It was one of those things that made sure ill forever have a soft spot for him but also probably never be able to really take him seriously haha.
I mostly just watch wwe highlights because I honestly don't really enjoy like the vast majority of the fed product these days and there is no group of fans as consistently infuriatingly stupid as WWE fans. They've somehow turned Mandy Rose taking some shitty shower pics where you can't even see her nips into "she made hardcore porn". I've legit seen more explicit pics in rolling stone. When did mainstream wrestling fans get so fucking soft?[close]
Oh I thought I heard she was having sex with her husband in the shower in one of them or whatever. She’s apparently made half a million since then, so it all worked out?
Are they soft or just latently anti-women? They just want women sexualized to the degree that Vince demands it
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.[close]
I just see potential in LA Knight. Almost like a better Mr. Kennedy or maybe just a heavy, high end midcarder.[close]
I liked him in TNA, but that also means he's still got a bit of TNA stink on him hahaha. Since I like euro indy shit sometimes I was briefly into Grado and he had a so-bad-it's-good program with him a few years back when Grado had his TNA run. It was one of those things that made sure ill forever have a soft spot for him but also probably never be able to really take him seriously haha.
I mostly just watch wwe highlights because I honestly don't really enjoy like the vast majority of the fed product these days and there is no group of fans as consistently infuriatingly stupid as WWE fans. They've somehow turned Mandy Rose taking some shitty shower pics where you can't even see her nips into "she made hardcore porn". I've legit seen more explicit pics in rolling stone. When did mainstream wrestling fans get so fucking soft?[close]
Oh I thought I heard she was having sex with her husband in the shower in one of them or whatever. She’s apparently made half a million since then, so it all worked out?
Are they soft or just latently anti-women? They just want women sexualized to the degree that Vince demands it
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExcited for the Royal Rumble. Also was reading that Lesnar may get an intercontinental championship run; big Lesnar fan, was since he debuted when I was 11, but I did want to see them do more with Gunther. Here’s to hoping.
Curious to see what they do with Kevin Owens. Supposedly he’s the next big thing although there’s rumblings of Balor being the ONE.
Let me add that I want to see more LA Knight & MJF has some of the best mic skills right now.
I hope you all have Peacock & enjoy the WWE channel as much as I do.[close]
I quit paying for WWE content after crown jewel left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't feel bad about stealing from them. I do miss the HD territory libraries but you can find most of it elsewhere if you look around a bit.
Lesnar IC run could be fun if it's just happy farmer brock doing stupid shit. I'd watch that.
I can't call him Gunther. I'm sorry. It's too cliche in the "this is what a stupid American thinks Germans are" way and he's been Walter to me since I first saw him in PWG. I don't understand why he needed a new name. I love him though and I want to see him beat the fuck out of all their big hosses.
I like LA knight but I don't think he's a main eventer and being involved in Bray's spirit halloween showcase isn't doing him many favors. That shit got real hokey real fast. His fed name always reminds me of 90s shoe companies LA gear and British Knights, I wonder if that's intentional.
MJF is indeed the best talker in the game right now and he's very quickly moving up the ranks all time. In my lifetime the only guy that was as consistently money was Rocky. He definitely gets what this is supposed to be in the ring too, though I do think it's somewhat lost on the part of the AEW audience who seem to just want flips and comedy spots. The ab stretch and rope break sequences in his win over Starks last week got more of a reaction out of me all of the dives to the outside from the rest of the show combined. The physical storytelling was just as compelling as the promos they cut leading up to it.[close]
I just see potential in LA Knight. Almost like a better Mr. Kennedy or maybe just a heavy, high end midcarder.[close]
I liked him in TNA, but that also means he's still got a bit of TNA stink on him hahaha. Since I like euro indy shit sometimes I was briefly into Grado and he had a so-bad-it's-good program with him a few years back when Grado had his TNA run. It was one of those things that made sure ill forever have a soft spot for him but also probably never be able to really take him seriously haha.
I mostly just watch wwe highlights because I honestly don't really enjoy like the vast majority of the fed product these days and there is no group of fans as consistently infuriatingly stupid as WWE fans. They've somehow turned Mandy Rose taking some shitty shower pics where you can't even see her nips into "she made hardcore porn". I've legit seen more explicit pics in rolling stone. When did mainstream wrestling fans get so fucking soft?[close]
Oh I thought I heard she was having sex with her husband in the shower in one of them or whatever. She’s apparently made half a million since then, so it all worked out?
Are they soft or just latently anti-women? They just want women sexualized to the degree that Vince demands it[close]
Yeah that's because as usual the vast majority of the fan base is talking out their ass about something they've never even seen.
Obviously I can't post them here, but the set she got fired for contained 6 shower photos, 3 color and 3 B&W. In all of them they're shot from a side angle and doing the old softcore strategic pose with the guy holding the girls boobs from behind. You can't even see a nipple. She also posted a 10 second clip of her grinding on his lap in her underwear where you, again, can't see anything. Somehow that got conflated by Twitter and reddit fans into her doing a full on 20 minute hardcore shower scene.
So essentially you have a bunch of people giving hot takes about something they're objectively incorrect about despite the fact that literally 30 seconds of googling could reveal the truth. It's shit like that which makes me just not want to be associated with "wrestling fans" in any way. I just want to watch dudes with crazy personalities pretend to fight... I don't need all the drama.
Edit - Just to clarify, I don't really care if the fed fired her for having an OF. They're well within their rights and she signed the contract, so if she didn't know then she should have. I just think this sudden outrage based on misinformation is so stupid. She was posting racier stuff than that for months, including ones where you actually can see the goods. The only people that have come off looking bad to me here are the fans who made a big deal about it.
Who’s worse, Damian Priest or Sammy Guevara?
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Haven't consistently been following wrasslin' at all in recent time, but I still enjoy good promo work. I saw this Drew Vs Owens bit from a few months ago that was classic! Two competing viewpoints of self-worth, segueing into a match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MChrD08gE2M
I've heard people say that wwe got better after Vince left, but not so sure how true that is.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/former-tnaimpact-announcer-don-west-passes-away
RIP Don West
Haven't consistently been following wrasslin' at all in recent time, but I still enjoy good promo work. I saw this Drew Vs Owens bit from a few months ago that was classic! Two competing viewpoints of self-worth, segueing into a match.
Here's the whole channel -
https://www.youtube.com/@TellemHawk/videos
Theres a bunch of good shit and a lot of it is compilations and full cards. It's an old channel of a bunch of VHS rips so it's not like network HD but it's pretty good quality for the most part.
The Sullivan stuff is great. I watched all of part one and part of part 2 last night and also skimmed a few other ones. There is a must-watch interview piece about Cornette from the old days, The abdullah tape is super campy but it has a bunch of good footage of the old bloody Caribbean matches I'd only ever seen photos of in the magazines when I was little, and they even somehow have footage of a rinky dink 1988 NWA house show in Johnstown PA (right outside Pittsburgh).
I'll keep an eye out for the Hogan thing. Do you have any idea of a location or date? Also are you still going to Dynamite in LA? The only thing scheduled this week that I actually want to see is Swerve vs AR Fox, so I think they're going to set some stories up for the socal show.
Ps - if any of you guys are interested in older stuff I have a bunch of other channels bookmarked too...just let me know what territory or wrestler you wanna see. YouTube is great but dailymotion and archive have some of the harder to find stuff.
Explain the Ronda love
14 time champ Charlotte Flair heard us talking about protected wrestlers
Expand Quote14 time champ Charlotte Flair heard us talking about protected wrestlers[close]
Her coming back & pinning Rousey was utter garbage.
I loved when Animal would say "Tell em, Hawk!"Expand QuoteHere's the whole channel -
https://www.youtube.com/@TellemHawk/videos[close]
Does anyone know of old videos where the guys would throw fire? Ronnie Garvin got burnt i remember. Ricky Morton, maybe? NWA/WCW had a lot of wild stuff before wrestling turned glam.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote14 time champ Charlotte Flair heard us talking about protected wrestlers[close]
Her coming back & pinning Rousey was utter garbage.[close]
I mean, I hate the way WwE does surprise title changes, but you might be the only one I’ve heard that has been enjoying what Ronda’s been doing in the ring. Not trying to knock what you like, but I think they were trying to fix something that wasn’t working for fans.
Yep, flash paper and a lighter. WWE uses a magicians prop that shoots balls of flash cotton for a lot of stuff too.
The famous Hogan botch was against warrior during the terrible WCW run. Hulk insisted on keeping it in his tights and of course after a few minutes it was so saturated in his ball juice that he couldn't get it to work at first, then he missed by a mile once he got it lit. It looked terrible and came at the end of a historically bad match.
Let me also add the Dominick Mysterio story of him going to jail is awful. I know WWE wants him to be Eddie or even Razor (as seen in the recent promo of him in kayfabe prison) but it is just not working. Probably doesn’t help the Judgment Day is one of the weakest factions I can think of. Not interesting by any means.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote14 time champ Charlotte Flair heard us talking about protected wrestlers[close]
Her coming back & pinning Rousey was utter garbage.[close]
I mean, I hate the way WwE does surprise title changes, but you might be the only one I’ve heard that has been enjoying what Ronda’s been doing in the ring. Not trying to knock what you like, but I think they were trying to fix something that wasn’t working for fans.[close]
Agree to disagree, lovely stuff. I think they were setting up a feud for Ronda as she really had no one to compete with her. I was honestly glad when they got rid of the Liv Morgan storyline as again, her Cash In was boring, highly predictable & she is nowhere near the level of Rousey. Same for Flair. I know the Flair win was also to boost the ratings on Smackdown for the Finale, which I get. As far as why I back her, I admire anyone that can come from another world (MMA/UFC, etc) & being able to do well in the WWE/wrestling world i.e. Brock Lesnar (been a fan since he debuted) Kurt Angle (a favorite for sure), Shelton Benjamin, etc. I think she looks solid in the ring & owns her persona on television/WWE. On another note, I think they will push Shayna Baszler soon as she is overdue for some type of title. I believe that is why they had her with Rousey & I know Rousey has encourage WWE to give her a push.
Sasha Banks debuted at Wrestle Kingdom.
Would love to see the Nakamura-Muta match.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote14 time champ Charlotte Flair heard us talking about protected wrestlers[close]
Her coming back & pinning Rousey was utter garbage.[close]
I mean, I hate the way WwE does surprise title changes, but you might be the only one I’ve heard that has been enjoying what Ronda’s been doing in the ring. Not trying to knock what you like, but I think they were trying to fix something that wasn’t working for fans.[close]
Agree to disagree, lovely stuff. I think they were setting up a feud for Ronda as she really had no one to compete with her. I was honestly glad when they got rid of the Liv Morgan storyline as again, her Cash In was boring, highly predictable & she is nowhere near the level of Rousey. Same for Flair. I know the Flair win was also to boost the ratings on Smackdown for the Finale, which I get. As far as why I back her, I admire anyone that can come from another world (MMA/UFC, etc) & being able to do well in the WWE/wrestling world i.e. Brock Lesnar (been a fan since he debuted) Kurt Angle (a favorite for sure), Shelton Benjamin, etc. I think she looks solid in the ring & owns her persona on television/WWE. On another note, I think they will push Shayna Baszler soon as she is overdue for some type of title. I believe that is why they had her with Rousey & I know Rousey has encourage WWE to give her a push.[close]
Sure, but Brock, Shelton, Angle all were seriously talented amateur (collegiate/Olympian) wrestlers and Brock and Shelton spent a lot of time in developmental in OVW. A lot of pro wrestlers have that collegiate wrestling background
Ronda did well when she was thrown out there and it wasn’t her fault it collided with Becky Lynch’s rise, but she faltered as soon as she hit adversity.
Expand QuoteSasha Banks debuted at Wrestle Kingdom.
Would love to see the Nakamura-Muta match.[close]
I can't believe they licensed the sephiroth song for Omega. What a fucking geek.
Match with Ospreay was a banger as usual.
Check ur pms.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/vince-mcmahon-plots-return-to-wwe-11672952709
Oh my fucking God. This shit is amazing. He's living his gimmick in the most hysterical way possible. He's icing haitch and Steph out and wants to go back to being the boss, then sell the company and likely cut them out of the deal altogether. What a vile son of a bitch. They have to have done this exact thing in storyline before right?
In other news, Tony Khan was found in his office laughing hysterically at his good fortune. In the background one could hear faint echoes of "Wee-woo wee-woo" as Jeff Jarrett arrived for a traditional meal of his people, funnel cakes and sugary lemonade.
Currently watching Raw; so far a complete snoozer. The Dominick Mysterio angle is again complete garbage. I actually cannot believe that they are trying to sell this. "Snitches get stitches". That's all that a writer came up with? Fucking Judgement Day needs to be done.
Let me also add the crowd clearly does not care about tonight as you can hear the silence.
Expand QuoteCurrently watching Raw; so far a complete snoozer. The Dominick Mysterio angle is again complete garbage. I actually cannot believe that they are trying to sell this. "Snitches get stitches". That's all that a writer came up with? Fucking Judgement Day needs to be done.
Let me also add the crowd clearly does not care about tonight as you can hear the silence.[close]
Vince back + College Football game = no one’s trying
Watching NXT tonight. Anyone see what happened when the ring legitimately fell apart during the Breakker & Waller match. I was excited to check this out & unfortunately just another disappointment. Heres to hoping that Gunther vs Strowman is a good on coming on Friday. I am hoping Gunther wins & this prompts Lesnar to come out, F5 him & let the universe know a feud is brewing.
Side note: my birthday is coming up & I either never ask for anything or struggle as I just buy myself the stuff I want so honestly, everyday feels like my birthday. Long story short, I have been really getting back into wrestling & prior to skating, I collected wrestlers at a very young age. So I sent my wife a list for my birthday & will have some figures coming my way to reignite this hobby.
I have a pretty big collection, but I like the hasbros from the 80's and 90's because that is what I played with as a kid. I barely buy from Target or Wally World.
Any collectors of wrestlers in here?
Cannot wait to be running to Target for wrestlers during my breaks...
My best guess is it won't be the death knell as long as there's enough idiots impressed by flashy lights and flips, but it will continue to be less and less about wrestling and just basically turn into a traveling circus. I was already not watching because I wasn't comfortable with their shitbaggery and I hope others feel the same way. Fuck Vince, he's one of the slimiest fucks in existence so selling your life's work for blood money sounds about right.
My big question is what happens with Sami? He can't possibly stick around if this happens right?
I had the LJN Piper and Jake when I was a kid. Played with them so much they barely had any paint left on them haha. My spoiled cousin had HBJ, Tito, Nikita, George the Animal and a few others and he didn't even really watch wrestling.
The mixed bag is kind of the way it goes with AEW most weeks. They have some really good stuff but also stuff like Jericho's cult that they've been milking way too long without doing anything that I'd call good since the blood and guts match.
That was the best I've seen BD look in a while and Takeshita seems like he can pull off literally any spot you can dream up. He's got loads of physical charisma, but I think the language barrier will always keep him under the main event scene unless you give him a mouthpiece and make him a silent badass like Muta. Hell of a match though, his chops look/sound legitimately brutal and his blue thunder bomb is gorgeous.
Jericho has been nothing short of outstanding in the ring over the past year but if it weren't for the fact he keeps delivering bangers I think the fans would have soured on him a bit. It's really hard for me to shit on a guy who provides so much entertainment but he does seem to just latch on to younger or hotter talent and then use them to get himself more over. I can't really think of anyone from his various stables and programs that came out of them having improved their standing. Sammy was a hot young "pillar" of AEW before Jericho and now has intense go-away heat with a large portion of the fan base. Garcia was one of the hot young fan favorites that was supposed to be about to take the next step and now no one cares about him. Anna Jay was supposed to be something by now but has seemingly forgotten what little she knew about how to wrestle and no one cares about her either. And so on and so forth... I think his next gimmick should be the sports entertainment vampire.
@Mr. Kamikazi Do you watch any old stuff other than WWF? I love watching the guys I grew up on when they were just getting their start, so I usually focus on Memphis and Dallas/world class as those were super influential territories that kind of ended up shaping what wrestling became in the late 80s and 90s when I was growing up on it.
Spot on about Jericho. I did just read an article on how Takeshita will be huge moving forward & will likely be a main event start soon. As far as older content, I have watched some USWA stuff & of course early WCW. Flex Kavana ring a bell? WCW was really the starting point for me as I remember being outside playing & my grandfather telling me to come inside & that was so he could show me my first wrestling match which was WCW. It was Eddie Guerrero VS Rey Mysterio & I was hooked.
It is wild to see what used to be a big deal of a performance in the ring versus now.
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Spot on about Jericho. I did just read an article on how Takeshita will be huge moving forward & will likely be a main event start soon. As far as older content, I have watched some USWA stuff & of course early WCW. Flex Kavana ring a bell? WCW was really the starting point for me as I remember being outside playing & my grandfather telling me to come inside & that was so he could show me my first wrestling match which was WCW. It was Eddie Guerrero VS Rey Mysterio & I was hooked.
It is wild to see what used to be a big deal of a performance in the ring versus now.[close]
Yeah the style has changed so much in the indy era. I find the matches are a lot more engaging on the whole, but the characters and feel of the show as a whole were better back in the day in my opinion. I don't think it's just nostalgia either, because a lot of the stuff I'm really into right now is stuff I didn't watch when I was a kid. I do go on NWA/WCW binges all the time, but usually 89-93 because that was my introduction to it. Instead of Eddie vs Rey, I had Flair vs Sting.
Have you ever seen any of the ECW cruiserweight stuff? Rey and Psicosis had a couple amazing matches but for my money Eddie vs Malenko in ECW is the real gem. I was an ECW kid, but a few years later around 96/97, and got into tape trading for a while. Here's one of the classics, but the whole year of 95 ECW TV is full of these. These two had the craziest chemistry. Also I still contend that Joey Styles is right up there with JR and Lance Russell as the best "calling the action" commentators ever.
https://youtu.be/sAndeYqHya0
USWA is great up until about 95, but it goes way off the rails the last few years. It's kind of a sad end to the Memphis wrestling dynasty that drew 10k to the mid south colliseum weekly for decades. Im actually watching CWA 1989 right now which is the last year of the CWA before it became the USWA. It's kinda cool, Master of Pain (a very young Undertaker) just won the belt from Lawler and he's about to face Lord Humongous (Psycho Sid/Sid Vicious) who's finish is a spinning power bomb where he just tosses jobbers across the ring. Same thing Satnam Singh does now, just far less dangerous.
Didn't watch Rampage yet, but I'll probably throw it on when I get home from work to kill time before football starts.
I’ll check these videos out! Thanks for sending them my way.
As far as ECW goes, I never got to into it though I did meet New Jack in 2002. Got a figure signed by him & a Polaroid with him & my brother.
I hope they open the Forbidden Door for Royal Rumble surprises.
RIP Jay brisco
RIP Jay briscoSo damn sad. So young. Saw him wrestle live in 2015, he and his brother put on a hell of a show
Dude I bet that actor was so psyched to take the chair shot from Double J.
Positive reviews of Willie Macks elevation match against Brian Cage make me think he’ll be signed soon
Then I hope he, Keith Lee and Hobbs form a faction because they look like Pokémon evolutions of each other
Found out about Jay in the middle of writing this. Same age as me. I'm reading it was a firey car crash and there were multiple fatalities as well as some young victims who were injured but survived so at least it wasn't as bad as it could have been I guess.Goddamn...
Goddamn...Expand QuoteFound out about Jay in the middle of writing this. Same age as me. I'm reading it was a firey car crash and there were multiple fatalities as well as some young victims who were injured but survived so at least it wasn't as bad as it could have been I guess.[close]
Wow Top Flight go over on The Young Bucks. Darius is sick but I can't get over Dante Martin's face. He just looks so damn corny. Match was decent if you like spotfest wrestling.
Danhausen running around with the guitar was pretty funny.
Saraya and Toni Storm are heels?
Darby and Kushida was a good match.
I wish Jake Hager just wouldn't wrestle in matches. He is funny and I can't believe he got a purple bucket hat over. It just kills it for me to know that he actually has MMA wins but is relegated to stooge work and jobbing.
Also not psyched on Brian Cage being fed to danielson. That dude deserves better. He seems like a guy Vince would have a boner for. I actually like his wrestling and he can skate as well.
I get that, but I just dislike how Tony uses his big men. Wardlow, Morrison, Luchasaurus, Lance Archer, all these dudes are basically dead now because Tony had them lose to cruiserweights (besides Wardlow who they just let completely flatline in a tag team with Somoa Joe and the only reason they were put together was so Joe could turn on him and take the belt and completely bury him?) And then Joe gets beat by Darby? WTF. I hope Hobbs can come out of something looking good.
My thing is, if you want to do the Young Bucks and Omega type of wrestling show and elevate dudes that weigh 160 lbs. thats fine, just straight up don't hire anyone over 250 lbs. Morrison needed a shot at a comeback after WWE and the mental health crisis that followed, and he basically came here to beat up people when it doesn't count and job when it does. He looked good to, he should've been given the Wardlow style push of squash matches for months while creative can catch up to him.
Or keep all these dudes separate. Let your actual heavyweights go for the heavyweight title. Have a belt called the Meltzer 5star belt for all the flipper types.
I get that, but I just dislike how Tony uses his big men. Wardlow, Morrison, Luchasaurus, Lance Archer, all these dudes are basically dead now because Tony had them lose to cruiserweights (besides Wardlow who they just let completely flatline in a tag team with Somoa Joe and the only reason they were put together was so Joe could turn on him and take the belt and completely bury him?) And then Joe gets beat by Darby? WTF. I hope Hobbs can come out of something looking good.
My thing is, if you want to do the Young Bucks and Omega type of wrestling show and elevate dudes that weigh 160 lbs. thats fine, just straight up don't hire anyone over 250 lbs. Morrison needed a shot at a comeback after WWE and the mental health crisis that followed, and he basically came here to beat up people when it doesn't count and job when it does. He looked good to, he should've been given the Wardlow style push of squash matches for months while creative can catch up to him.
Or keep all these dudes separate. Let your actual heavyweights go for the heavyweight title. Have a belt called the Meltzer 5star belt for all the flipper types.
Hogan was there. Did he rib Undertaker and mess with the motorcycle so people would stop making fun of him from the motorcycle botch from his past?
Hogan was there. Did he rib Undertaker and mess with the motorcycle so people would stop making fun of him from the motorcycle botch from his past?
These are hilarious.
https://wrestlingfiguredatabase.com/collections/brothers-gaddor-roh-honor-buddies (https://wrestlingfiguredatabase.com/collections/brothers-gaddor-roh-honor-buddies)
Since I really enjoyed that WFD site (I 've got like 50 tabs of it open) I thought I'd return the favor.
https://www.wrestlecrap.com/
If you're ever stuck somewhere that has locked down wifi and you need something to kill time, this used to be my go-to. I sometimes forget it exists, but they recently relaunched it and like 15-20 years ago it was one of the first sites I knew of that catered to snarky smarks like me. It's kind of like an html predecessor to botchamania and I spent many a day at my desk in Germany laughing at shit on there. This was before the network and YouTube was still in its infancy so this was actually my first exposure to a lot of the wacky shit from places other than the fed.
They even have a column with Russo trying to defend his awful booking, I read like 3 of them and I now believe every single story Cornette tells about him. The inductions get most of the attention but my favorite section was always the jobber of the week though it doesn't look like they're updating it anymore.
Since I really enjoyed that WFD site (I 've got like 50 tabs of it open) I thought I'd return the favor.
https://www.wrestlecrap.com/
If you're ever stuck somewhere that has locked down wifi and you need something to kill time, this used to be my go-to. I sometimes forget it exists, but they recently relaunched it and like 15-20 years ago it was one of the first sites I knew of that catered to snarky smarks like me. It's kind of like an html predecessor to botchamania and I spent many a day at my desk in Germany laughing at shit on there. This was before the network and YouTube was still in its infancy so this was actually my first exposure to a lot of the wacky shit from places other than the fed.
They even have a column with Russo trying to defend his awful booking, I read like 3 of them and I now believe every single story Cornette tells about him. The inductions get most of the attention but my favorite section was always the jobber of the week though it doesn't look like they're updating it anymore.
Holy shit Cornette just made me choke on my drink at work.
Listening to an old episode where he did a rewatch of the 1992 Royal Rumble (Flair wins), he starts talking about Kerry Von Erich and he gets eliminated and Jim says "Well that's not an elimination, both his feet didn't touch the ground."
This Bloodline storyline has turned out to become one of the greatest storylines in wrestling.It's amazing how much life they've been able to squeeze out of it. Last Monday's Bloodline segment on Raw legitimately had me on the edge of my seat
Everyone played their parts to perfection and Roman Reigns will one day be the goat.
This women’s rumble match is great, and I especially love the commentary team of Pat McAfee and Corey Graves. I’ve been cracking up at all of their quips.That finish was incredible. I would have liked to see any of those last 3 win, but I'm stoked for Rhea.
Also, Nia Jax’s entire women’s rumble tenure was one big batch.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn99Z9Sv6CK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn99Z9Sv6CK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
AEW with the dream match next week.
Why is Roman getting the praise when it’s Sami that has saved this storyline and executed the storyline tonight?
I’ve never particularly liked Roman, his matches, and think the “Acknkwledge Me” sounds desperate, so I’m not particularly fond of him as a bias
That finish was incredible. I would have liked to see any of those last 3 win, but I'm stoked for Rhea.Expand QuoteThis women’s rumble match is great, and I especially love the commentary team of Pat McAfee and Corey Graves. I’ve been cracking up at all of their quips.
Also, Nia Jax’s entire women’s rumble tenure was one big batch.[close]
Also pretty cool that Gunther broke the record for longest amount of time in a match on his first year in the Rumble
It's amazing how much life they've been able to squeeze out of it. Last Monday's Bloodline segment on Raw legitimately had me on the edge of my seatExpand QuoteThis Bloodline storyline has turned out to become one of the greatest storylines in wrestling.
Everyone played their parts to perfection and Roman Reigns will one day be the goat.[close]
Expand QuoteWhy is Roman getting the praise when it’s Sami that has saved this storyline and executed the storyline tonight?
I’ve never particularly liked Roman, his matches, and think the “Acknkwledge Me” sounds desperate, so I’m not particularly fond of him as a bias[close]
Roman’s the biggest draw of all of them.
So pitch black means black lights. God that was awful.
Men's rumble was not great besides Gunther and the Logan Paul/ Ricochet spot.
I watch the Rumble for the surprise appearances and all they gave us was booker T for the men.
I really used to like it when like Demolition used to be in there and they would always team up and throw dudes out but as soon it was just the two of them, they would fight each other until someone else came.
Did Kofi even do any type of crazy save?
I fell asleep during the womens rumble but I do remember Chelsea Green. Her coming back was supposed to be kind of a big deal right? And then they just make her look stupid. Wifey told me about how they got Michelle McCool in there and that was neat.
Slept through the Bliss/ Bel Air match but I can't imagine they did anything too awesome.
Main event was OK, the Bloodline story has been excellent so we'll see what happens next.
And now they do a press conference afterwards like AEW? HA!
So pitch black means black lights. God that was awful.
Men's rumble was not great besides Gunther and the Logan Paul/ Ricochet spot.
I watch the Rumble for the surprise appearances and all they gave us was booker T for the men.
I really used to like it when like Demolition used to be in there and they would always team up and throw dudes out but as soon it was just the two of them, they would fight each other until someone else came.
Did Kofi even do any type of crazy save?
I fell asleep during the womens rumble but I do remember Chelsea Green. Her coming back was supposed to be kind of a big deal right? And then they just make her look stupid. Wifey told me about how they got Michelle McCool in there and that was neat.
Slept through the Bliss/ Bel Air match but I can't imagine they did anything too awesome.
Main event was OK, the Bloodline story has been excellent so we'll see what happens next.
And now they do a press conference afterwards like AEW? HA!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CoK1v88Jvjz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CoK1v88Jvjz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
RIP Lanny Poffo
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RIP Lanny Poffo[close]
FUCK. I was just last night watching some of Lanny and Randy's Memphis run and thinking about how over Lanny would be with today's audience. The fact that he genuinely wrote all of those poems hours before the match and more often than not they were actually pretty always amazed me. Lanny was kind of like a proto-Acclaimed in that regard. He wasn't as good as Randy in the ring, but he was more than capable of holding his own and actually kinda surprised me with how well he moved and worked the southern crowds. There's some mid south coliseum matches with Poffomania where he gets just as much of a pop as Randy at certain points. I also honestly think he was just as good on the mic as Randy, but in a completely different style that most people didn't quite get at the time.
Dunno if any of you are familiar with the OSW review "boy stable", but basically it's your personal group of favorite wrestlers that never really got a push or were underappreciated. The kind of guy where you go "that's my BOY" even though no one else seems to like them as much as you. The general criteria is they can't have ever held a major singles belt in one of the big promotions (so IC champs are out and European/TV champs are questionable). Anyways, Lanny would 100% be in my boy stable...especially in his genius gimmick. I was a nerdy, wordy kid so I actually kind of identified with him and I used to come up with my own shitty little poems that no one else thought were clever haha.
@Buttfart Rapedick you ever read this book? I read it last year and it's pretty good, gives a comprehensive history of the AWA and shows how influential Verne Gagne was in his heyday
(https://www.cottagegrovejournal.news/cloonermedia/cottagegrovejournal/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/031e6af4afb4a991fc49ade99a37b1f4.jpg)
@Buttfart Rapedick you ever read this book? I read it last year and it's pretty good, gives a comprehensive history of the AWA and shows how influential Verne Gagne was in his heyday
(https://www.cottagegrovejournal.news/cloonermedia/cottagegrovejournal/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/031e6af4afb4a991fc49ade99a37b1f4.jpg)
Whose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?
love the elite's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZh0_IdFtQ8
I luv their attitude and bravado. It's cool how aew can capitalize on using real songs.
the genius wasn't built enough for wwf but he had a good character. smug heel you'd want to boo but he played it well. vince was a size queen so he wasn't going to get the push his brother had and also, macho was an institution.
he even rapped. "be a man hogan!"
That sucks, the little I’ve seen/heard from him in the last 5-10 years has been awesome…..it’s like skating in a way that you won’t think much of a pro, then you meet them or hear their story and realize all the things they’ve seen and the dedication they’ve put in….even if I thought he was a cornball, he was doing his job…at least 50% of the WWF was dumb I thought…..I guess I was already into skating and not having it….
Expand Quotethe genius wasn't built enough for wwf but he had a good character. smug heel you'd want to boo but he played it well. vince was a size queen so he wasn't going to get the push his brother had and also, macho was an institution.
he even rapped. "be a man hogan!"[close]
I don't know if it was that. Not sure what they were billed at in their WWF runs but in reality Lanny was about the same size as Randy (he might have even been a little taller actually), though he wasn't nearly as defined. It's been said that Vince signed the Poffos to cripple Memphis as much anything, and though he was definitely courting a southern audience at the time I don't necessarily buy that either. Randy was coming off a red-hot program with Lawler and Memphis itself was still pretty damn hot in 85. Vince just really wanted Randy because he was the hottest available free agent and was willing to give his brother a job to make it happen. For some reason Vince seemed to have a grudge against Angelo, which is sometimes postulated as the reason Randy was never honored by the WWF (alongside the much more popular theory that he got caught fucking a barely legal Stephanie).
Wrestling was still a family business in a lot of ways and Vince was still somewhat abiding by his father's wishes and "taking care of the boys" at that point. It wasn't a unique situation by any means though, you'd see guys like Barry O (Bob Orton's brother) or Kendall Windham or Vic Steamboat or Sam Houston (Jake's brother) etc working as preliminary guys and making up the numbers for the touring schedule in all the major promotions at the time.
All that being said, I don't think Vince ever expected Savage to get over the way he did and never really appreciated or took him as seriously as he should have. In a lot of ways he had to succeed in spite of his promoter rather than because of him.
There was always a weird animosity between the two and if it weren't for the slim Jim deal things probably would have gone sideways even faster than they did.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethe genius wasn't built enough for wwf but he had a good character. smug heel you'd want to boo but he played it well. vince was a size queen so he wasn't going to get the push his brother had and also, macho was an institution.
he even rapped. "be a man hogan!"[close]
I don't know if it was that. Not sure what they were billed at in their WWF runs but in reality Lanny was about the same size as Randy (he might have even been a little taller actually), though he wasn't nearly as defined. It's been said that Vince signed the Poffos to cripple Memphis as much anything, and though he was definitely courting a southern audience at the time I don't necessarily buy that either. Randy was coming off a red-hot program with Lawler and Memphis itself was still pretty damn hot in 85. Vince just really wanted Randy because he was the hottest available free agent and was willing to give his brother a job to make it happen. For some reason Vince seemed to have a grudge against Angelo, which is sometimes postulated as the reason Randy was never honored by the WWF (alongside the much more popular theory that he got caught fucking a barely legal Stephanie).
Wrestling was still a family business in a lot of ways and Vince was still somewhat abiding by his father's wishes and "taking care of the boys" at that point. It wasn't a unique situation by any means though, you'd see guys like Barry O (Bob Orton's brother) or Kendall Windham or Vic Steamboat or Sam Houston (Jake's brother) etc working as preliminary guys and making up the numbers for the touring schedule in all the major promotions at the time.
All that being said, I don't think Vince ever expected Savage to get over the way he did and never really appreciated or took him as seriously as he should have. In a lot of ways he had to succeed in spite of his promoter rather than because of him.
There was always a weird animosity between the two and if it weren't for the slim Jim deal things probably would have gone sideways even faster than they did.[close]
“Weird animosity” - you’ve heard the Stephanie rumors?
Did you see that older tag team that called themselves the Youngest Men alive?
MJF vs Takeshita tonight was grand.
The promo MJF cut was pretty wild as I guess I was used to things going back to PG in the wrestling world but I’m also new to AEW.
Watched all the way up until the Elite match; cannot get behind them & the fact that they come out to Kansas.
I too caught that Thatcher match & was very into his performance. Classic & cold.
I can't believe I woke up this morning and the fucking ASS BOYS are champs. what the actual fuck.
I get that Takeshita can have a banger with anyone, but jeez he needs some credible wins on TV.
BD v Rush was pretty good and Rush looks so good on his entrance, just a real nice presentation.
Still think we didn't need 2 dudes fully bleeding in the first hour of the show, but whatever.
The bunny is hot.
Whose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?
Aw man , you missed a big NWA show in Tampa over the weekend.
Expand QuoteWhose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?[close]
Bray Wyatt's current entrance
Just kidding. It's awful.
Currently, we've only been watching WWE as it's the easiest for us to watch based on our schedules. It's been 10 years since I saw him on ROH but I'd still also concur with BFRD and say Dalton Castle. That guy is awesome.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?[close]
Bray Wyatt's current entrance
Just kidding. It's awful.
Currently, we've only been watching WWE as it's the easiest for us to watch based on our schedules. It's been 10 years since I saw him on ROH but I'd still also concur with BFRD and say Dalton Castle. That guy is awesome.[close]
Dalton & the boys have been pretty over on AEW but for some reason TK seems hesitant to push them. Dalton beating Cody for the belt is one of my favorite ROH moments ever and one of the better "genuinely shocked" crowd reactions I've seen. I always say a big part of why I like him is that he reminds me of Goldust, who's one of my favorite characters ever. They both have this outlandish, slightly silly gimmick but once the bell rings they turn it on and just fuckin go. As soon as Dalton slips his hips under yours they might as well start a countdown to take-off because you're going for a ride. Awesome finisher too.
SHAQUEEFA have you thought about doing the Jeri-cruise? I watched some stuff from this one and it looks like a blast. I checked the prices and it's actually pretty affordable for 2 people. I might legitimately consider doing it next year if I'm still this into wrestling.
Watching some FMW/W*NG/IWA Japan and ECW tonight. Mike Awesome was something else... I've never seen anyone else effortlessly powerbomb 250 pound men while standing on the top rope. He's got a lot in common with The Spoiler and young Taker in the way he uses the ropes, but he could do even more. I guess Lance Archer would be the closest thing today, but hes not on Awesome's level.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?[close]
Bray Wyatt's current entrance
Just kidding. It's awful.
Currently, we've only been watching WWE as it's the easiest for us to watch based on our schedules. It's been 10 years since I saw him on ROH but I'd still also concur with BFRD and say Dalton Castle. That guy is awesome.[close]
Dalton & the boys have been pretty over on AEW but for some reason TK seems hesitant to push them. Dalton beating Cody for the belt is one of my favorite ROH moments ever and one of the better "genuinely shocked" crowd reactions I've seen. I always say a big part of why I like him is that he reminds me of Goldust, who's one of my favorite characters ever. They both have this outlandish, slightly silly gimmick but once the bell rings they turn it on and just fuckin go. As soon as Dalton slips his hips under yours they might as well start a countdown to take-off because you're going for a ride. Awesome finisher too.
SHAQUEEFA have you thought about doing the Jeri-cruise? I watched some stuff from this one and it looks like a blast. I checked the prices and it's actually pretty affordable for 2 people. I might legitimately consider doing it next year if I'm still this into wrestling.
Watching some FMW/W*NG/IWA Japan and ECW tonight. Mike Awesome was something else... I've never seen anyone else effortlessly powerbomb 250 pound men while standing on the top rope. He's got a lot in common with The Spoiler and young Taker in the way he uses the ropes, but he could do even more. I guess Lance Archer would be the closest thing today, but hes not on Awesome's level.[close]
I think it’s bc Dalton and the Boys are ROH belt holders and he’s been trying not to mix the two rosters as much after fan interest flagged
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhose got your favorite entrance in wrestling right now?[close]
Bray Wyatt's current entrance
Just kidding. It's awful.
Currently, we've only been watching WWE as it's the easiest for us to watch based on our schedules. It's been 10 years since I saw him on ROH but I'd still also concur with BFRD and say Dalton Castle. That guy is awesome.[close]
Dalton & the boys have been pretty over on AEW but for some reason TK seems hesitant to push them. Dalton beating Cody for the belt is one of my favorite ROH moments ever and one of the better "genuinely shocked" crowd reactions I've seen. I always say a big part of why I like him is that he reminds me of Goldust, who's one of my favorite characters ever. They both have this outlandish, slightly silly gimmick but once the bell rings they turn it on and just fuckin go. As soon as Dalton slips his hips under yours they might as well start a countdown to take-off because you're going for a ride. Awesome finisher too.
SHAQUEEFA have you thought about doing the Jeri-cruise? I watched some stuff from this one and it looks like a blast. I checked the prices and it's actually pretty affordable for 2 people. I might legitimately consider doing it next year if I'm still this into wrestling.
Watching some FMW/W*NG/IWA Japan and ECW tonight. Mike Awesome was something else... I've never seen anyone else effortlessly powerbomb 250 pound men while standing on the top rope. He's got a lot in common with The Spoiler and young Taker in the way he uses the ropes, but he could do even more. I guess Lance Archer would be the closest thing today, but hes not on Awesome's level.[close]
I think it’s bc Dalton and the Boys are ROH belt holders and he’s been trying not to mix the two rosters as much after fan interest flagged[close]
I dunno, even like back when he was still mixing lots of ROH stuff in they didn't get a ton of love. I think they were pretty much over after the Gresham match in the spring, I remember him getting a surprise big pop in that battle royal and there being some general IWC hype but the closest thing to a push he got was getting competitively jobbed out to Jericho in the ppv build a few months ago. Obviously I'm not impartial, but it feels like one of those layups they just refuse to shoot for some reason. I bet he could move merch like Danhausen too, I'd definitely drop $20 on a boy mask.
I honestly think TK just isn't a fan for whatever reason. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. The guy can talk, Wrestle his ass off, and makes new fans every time he's on TV. We've long known that Tony books like a kid playing with his wrestling figures and I get the feeling Dalton is the one he got from the dollar store clearance rack that all his friends want to play with and he doesn't understand why.
Also, territory boys, not one mention that Jerry Jarrett passed away today?!
Starting to get into NXT. Realized I really like Ilja Dragunov & want to see more. I’m going to go back & watch this historic match with him VS Gunther (then Walter).
As a result, ordered a Dragunov figure for the shelf….
Mark Briscoe is All Elite.
I really do hope the team him with FTR. It’s what’s best for business.
I’m watching bunkhouse stampede right now and wonder if WWE could possibly reboot that or if they already did with the elimination chamber.
If you talk brawling in the bunkExpand QuoteMark Briscoe is All Elite.
I really do hope the team him with FTR. It’s what’s best for business.
I’m watching bunkhouse stampede right now and wonder if WWE could possibly reboot that or if they already did with the elimination chamber.[close]
Ahh the annual Dusty beats everyone tournament!
I guess elimination chamber is the closest thing, but the format of the bunkhouse stampede actually wasn't entirely consistent and changed from year to year, or even town to town haha. It was all basically just Dusty's dream match, right down to damn near everyone blading and the weird obsession with "bunkhouse" matches where everyone dresses up in old clothes for some reason.
Are you watching 88? That was one of the first things I watched when I got peacock last year and it's pretty hilarious. Warlord is so roided out he looks like he's going to float away and the crowd just totally turns on them part way through. Its weird but there's actually not a lot of video of them outside of the 88 finals. I did find this of one of the 86 ones which is kinda cool
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqD_oOp9TAw
If you talk brawling in the bunkExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMark Briscoe is All Elite.
I really do hope the team him with FTR. It’s what’s best for business.
I’m watching bunkhouse stampede right now and wonder if WWE could possibly reboot that or if they already did with the elimination chamber.[close]
Ahh the annual Dusty beats everyone tournament!
I guess elimination chamber is the closest thing, but the format of the bunkhouse stampede actually wasn't entirely consistent and changed from year to year, or even town to town haha. It was all basically just Dusty's dream match, right down to damn near everyone blading and the weird obsession with "bunkhouse" matches where everyone dresses up in old clothes for some reason.
Are you watching 88? That was one of the first things I watched when I got peacock last year and it's pretty hilarious. Warlord is so roided out he looks like he's going to float away and the crowd just totally turns on them part way through. Its weird but there's actually not a lot of video of them outside of the 88 finals. I did find this of one of the 86 ones which is kinda cool
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqD_oOp9TAw[close]
And don't mention Terry
You're faking the funk
It's how Texans get down
Jeans and boots
Knock the other around
But one team won't dress the part
Road Warriors kayfabe
Tights too tight to fart
Expand QuoteIf you talk brawling in the bunkExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMark Briscoe is All Elite.
I really do hope the team him with FTR. It’s what’s best for business.
I’m watching bunkhouse stampede right now and wonder if WWE could possibly reboot that or if they already did with the elimination chamber.[close]
Ahh the annual Dusty beats everyone tournament!
I guess elimination chamber is the closest thing, but the format of the bunkhouse stampede actually wasn't entirely consistent and changed from year to year, or even town to town haha. It was all basically just Dusty's dream match, right down to damn near everyone blading and the weird obsession with "bunkhouse" matches where everyone dresses up in old clothes for some reason.
Are you watching 88? That was one of the first things I watched when I got peacock last year and it's pretty hilarious. Warlord is so roided out he looks like he's going to float away and the crowd just totally turns on them part way through. Its weird but there's actually not a lot of video of them outside of the 88 finals. I did find this of one of the 86 ones which is kinda cool
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqD_oOp9TAw[close]
And don't mention Terry
You're faking the funk
It's how Texans get down
Jeans and boots
Knock the other around
But one team won't dress the part
Road Warriors kayfabe
Tights too tight to fart[close]
I appreciate your knowledge of old wrestling but this is the worst novelty account I've seen on slap yet. I'm just gonna be brutally honest here man, rhyming your posts is not a new or creative idea to begin with and the execution is on par with my friends alcoholic single dad "rapping" while he cooked us breakfast. It might seem witty to to you but let me demonstrate how dumb it sounds to everyone else..
How you gonna make your name a bard pun
and then not write your posts in iambic pentameter, son?
If you wanna do a novelty account here that's cool (sizzla is one of the most beloved posters after all), but this ain't the one. Just hop on your regular account and talk wrasslin without the schtick man.
I’m gonna go ahead and say it…Road Warrior Hawk’s singles matches should’ve been fire. Instead they were all disappointing and ended in dq’s every time.
Which shoot interviews are more entertaining…Ole Anderson’s or ones where people shoot on Abby?
(https://i.ibb.co/R3dZmQm/D1-B50889-DADF-404-E-BBB1-B7-F50-C4-C0021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3dZmQm)
Love all the recommendations for videos. Anybody else have any good books about pro wrestling? Recently been fueling the obsession with the first Mick Foley autobiography, Sabu: scars, silence and super glue autobiography, the Bobby the Brain Heenan autobiography, and Butts in Seats by Tony Schiavone, and Hell is a Squared circle graphic novels. I’ve also picked up some issues of the comic book Do a Powerbomb!
All very cool and unique reads
Well I think it’s because Ariel is a known hack (whose agent was Nick Kahn before he jumped to WWE) and has a history of taking money from UFC and now WWE in secret when he’s supposed to be an “unbiased journalist” who definitely had more of an agenda interviewing Tony Kahn than any of his other interviews.
Ariel just seems like a hack like all these other “independent” journalists who hype up the E just so they can get a job with it.
I don’t think he’s worrying, just making a point about Ariel’s very different tone he struck with AEW then he did with WWE and his you see what the real reason behind it was.
Tony just made one tweet, it’s not like he’s restructured his show to be around it.
Maybe I’m just partial to that NXT roster that got me back into it, but I liked Lars Sullivan as a big man monster.
He was obviously limited in the ring as most were, but he was scary looking in the way Braun and Omos and Khali never were.
Surprised VKM never took to him but I forget if his “personal issues” are what actually disqualified him or if it was lack of creative first
Expand QuoteMaybe I’m just partial to that NXT roster that got me back into it, but I liked Lars Sullivan as a big man monster.
He was obviously limited in the ring as most were, but he was scary looking in the way Braun and Omos and Khali never were.
Surprised VKM never took to him but I forget if his “personal issues” are what actually disqualified him or if it was lack of creative first[close]
Being terrible in the ring makes personal issues even more of a deal breaker.
On an unrelated note, here’s the best match almost no one has seen.
https://youtu.be/MKLdOi2TbCs (https://youtu.be/MKLdOi2TbCs)
Expand QuoteMaybe I’m just partial to that NXT roster that got me back into it, but I liked Lars Sullivan as a big man monster.
He was obviously limited in the ring as most were, but he was scary looking in the way Braun and Omos and Khali never were.
Surprised VKM never took to him but I forget if his “personal issues” are what actually disqualified him or if it was lack of creative first[close]
Being terrible in the ring makes personal issues even more of a deal breaker.
On an unrelated note, here’s the best match almost no one has seen.
https://youtu.be/MKLdOi2TbCs (https://youtu.be/MKLdOi2TbCs)
Scorpio has never received the mainstream plaudits he deserved
Expand QuoteScorpio has never received the mainstream plaudits he deserved[close]
Ohhh I don't think we've done this one yet. I already mentioned The Spoiler but who are some other guys who were better than most of their peers but received less recognition?
- Kanyon is one that quickly springs to mind.
- Mike Awesome too.
- Rhyno. I know he was ECW champ but it felt like he never really got much love after that. His matches are usually surprisingly good.
- Steve Corino. Good promo, great worker. Same as Rhyno, the only success he really had was in the embers of ECW.
- Dustin, obviously.
- he got stuck with a ton of shit gimmicks but Fred Ottman aka Typhoon/Tugboat/Shockmaster/Superstar Bubba etc was one of the better big men of his era. He was huge but also surprisingly quick and would even bust out drop kicks and a nasty leg drop from time to time.
- this one is pretty niche but in the heyday of WCW cruiserweights they would occasionally have this dude named Blitzkrieg that was doing like fakie phoenix splashes and all sorts of nutso springboard shit. He was really small and skinny so he wouldn't have been able to do much outside of the division but I feel like he was one of the first guys I can recall seeing with that flippy indy style moreso than traditional lucha.
I loved Kidman.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteScorpio has never received the mainstream plaudits he deserved[close]
Ohhh I don't think we've done this one yet. I already mentioned The Spoiler but who are some other guys who were better than most of their peers but received less recognition?
- Kanyon is one that quickly springs to mind.
- Mike Awesome too.
- Rhyno. I know he was ECW champ but it felt like he never really got much love after that. His matches are usually surprisingly good.
- Steve Corino. Good promo, great worker. Same as Rhyno, the only success he really had was in the embers of ECW.
- Dustin, obviously.
- he got stuck with a ton of shit gimmicks but Fred Ottman aka Typhoon/Tugboat/Shockmaster/Superstar Bubba etc was one of the better big men of his era. He was huge but also surprisingly quick and would even bust out drop kicks and a nasty leg drop from time to time.
- this one is pretty niche but in the heyday of WCW cruiserweights they would occasionally have this dude named Blitzkrieg that was doing like fakie phoenix splashes and all sorts of nutso springboard shit. He was really small and skinny so he wouldn't have been able to do much outside of the division but I feel like he was one of the first guys I can recall seeing with that flippy indy style moreso than traditional lucha.[close]
Chad Gable
William Regal
Norman Smiley
John Cena (actually a technical wizard in-ring)
Jerry Lynn
Hakushi
Haku (in real life 😂)
I loved Kidman.
We’ve mentioned Kidman! I missed out on a lot of Ravens flock but I liked the look of that shit. I think I was getting into it right when Kidman broke away
Expand QuoteWe’ve mentioned Kidman! I missed out on a lot of Ravens flock but I liked the look of that shit. I think I was getting into it right when Kidman broke away[close]
I see that now. Am I straying too far if I throw Lance Storm in here?
AEW was again a snoozer this week. Same with Smackdown.
Expand QuoteAEW was again a snoozer this week. Same with Smackdown.[close]
Does WWE have anything going on promising besides Bloodline? I’m vaguely aware of what’s going on and the rest of the card seems so weird. Charlotte as a baby face and Bayley struggling?
Also, is Dominick supposed to be a joke or are people supposed to buy the gimmick? It’s like Entourage: I could never tell if Vincent Chase was supposed to be a good actor in that universe because the person portraying him wasn’t a good actor.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAEW was again a snoozer this week. Same with Smackdown.[close]
Does WWE have anything going on promising besides Bloodline? I’m vaguely aware of what’s going on and the rest of the card seems so weird. Charlotte as a baby face and Bayley struggling?
Also, is Dominick supposed to be a joke or are people supposed to buy the gimmick? It’s like Entourage: I could never tell if Vincent Chase was supposed to be a good actor in that universe because the person portraying him wasn’t a good actor.[close]
Dominick is being pushed as an Eddie Guerrero but has its nonsense. Charlotte is dreadful & I’ m really hoping Rhea Ripley gets the title at Wrestlemania. Karion Kross is thrown in senseless feuds i.e. McIntyre(now over) & now with Mysterio. Nothing big from him.
LA Knight could be sick but they’ll blow it with the that. Gunther rules so I’m into that & Dragunov over at NXT gives me hope.
I think we’re supposed to see Dominick as the new Eddie Guerrero.
And what are they doing with Karrion Kross?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAEW was again a snoozer this week. Same with Smackdown.[close]
Does WWE have anything going on promising besides Bloodline? I’m vaguely aware of what’s going on and the rest of the card seems so weird. Charlotte as a baby face and Bayley struggling?
Also, is Dominick supposed to be a joke or are people supposed to buy the gimmick? It’s like Entourage: I could never tell if Vincent Chase was supposed to be a good actor in that universe because the person portraying him wasn’t a good actor.[close]
I think we’re supposed to see Dominick as the new Eddie Guerrero.
And what are they doing with Karrion Kross?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAEW was again a snoozer this week. Same with Smackdown.[close]
Does WWE have anything going on promising besides Bloodline? I’m vaguely aware of what’s going on and the rest of the card seems so weird. Charlotte as a baby face and Bayley struggling?
Also, is Dominick supposed to be a joke or are people supposed to buy the gimmick? It’s like Entourage: I could never tell if Vincent Chase was supposed to be a good actor in that universe because the person portraying him wasn’t a good actor.[close]
I think we’re supposed to see Dominick as the new Eddie Guerrero.
And what are they doing with Karrion Kross?[close]
Oh it's 1000% a worse version of the Feddie Guerrero gimmick. Probably learned it from the period where he was living with him before Rey won him back in a match.
Dom isn't terrible on the mic, but there's some pretty big holes there and he's still way overexposed in the ring. It's basically what I suspect Hook would be if he wasn't so protected - hes pretty good at pulling off his big spots, but everything in between is a crap shoot and he doesn't have very natural timing...he seems like he hesitates a lot. It's the kind of thing that might come with time and experience but it seems like these wrestling nepo babies are just skipping the whole "learning to work a match" phase before they put them on TV and they're supposed to just pick it up by osmosis I guess.
IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!
Tony, we're gonna need you to start doing a lil better.
I have a friend that just does not like AEW and when he points out the flaws he definitely ain't wrong.
He doesn't like WWE right now either.
He texted me on Friday and just said "Have the young bucks ever been to a gym?" And then I noticed they both have no physique at all.
I'll probably be asleep by 9.
IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!
Tony, we're gonna need you to start doing a lil better.
I have a friend that just does not like AEW and when he points out the flaws he definitely ain't wrong.
He doesn't like WWE right now either.
He texted me on Friday and just said "Have the young bucks ever been to a gym?" And then I noticed they both have no physique at all.
I'll probably be asleep by 9.
Anyone planning to catch the AEW ppv on Sunday?
I may hit up my local AMC theater.
Expand QuoteAnyone planning to catch the AEW ppv on Sunday?
I may hit up my local AMC theater.[close]
Saturday, no?
I’m tempted but I got COVID the last time I went to a public wrestling thing
Also, the last time I did an AMC thing, the feed cut out during the entire main event (hangman vs omega) and thankfully came on right as either Cole or Danielson came out (I forget who was first)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone planning to catch the AEW ppv on Sunday?
I may hit up my local AMC theater.[close]
Saturday, no?
I’m tempted but I got COVID the last time I went to a public wrestling thing
Also, the last time I did an AMC thing, the feed cut out during the entire main event (hangman vs omega) and thankfully came on right as either Cole or Danielson came out (I forget who was first)[close]
It’s Sunday, March 5.
I enjoyed the last AMC showing I went to, which was the NJPW ppv. Wrestling fans can be fun people. Only ones that aren’t are the super smart marks that parrot Jim Cornette.
Tag match and Iron Man match should be fun. Bret Vs Shawn is still the greatest Iron Man match of all time.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone planning to catch the AEW ppv on Sunday?
I may hit up my local AMC theater.[close]
Saturday, no?
I’m tempted but I got COVID the last time I went to a public wrestling thing
Also, the last time I did an AMC thing, the feed cut out during the entire main event (hangman vs omega) and thankfully came on right as either Cole or Danielson came out (I forget who was first)[close]
It’s Sunday, March 5.
I enjoyed the last AMC showing I went to, which was the NJPW ppv. Wrestling fans can be fun people. Only ones that aren’t are the super smart marks that parrot Jim Cornette.
Tag match and Iron Man match should be fun. Bret Vs Shawn is still the greatest Iron Man match of all time.[close]
Thanks - PPVs from both companies keep rotating from Sat to Sun. I though AEW only did Sunday on their holiday weekend shows.
Hah just adjust whomever you’re getting your PW from bc I’m not seeing any of that chatter in the places I lurk even after it came out the kid wasn’t in fact a plant.
The most hand-wringing I’ve seen this weekend (and justifiably so) is the Fed profiting off a new Chyna documentary and someone bringing back up how fucked up that Booker T/HHH feud was (though that possibly was just a continuation of a Fuck Hunter thread stemming from Chyna)
The MJF post match interview ruled. Chomping on pickles.
Anyone know where to see the match?
Revolution was so fucking good
Just needed to say that somewhere
dragunov is one of the few I think would be a lot more suited to AEW. Walter, unfortunately not, as they’ve shown they don’t book hosses that well.
Expand Quotedragunov is one of the few I think would be a lot more suited to AEW. Walter, unfortunately not, as they’ve shown they don’t book hosses that well.[close]
Interesting take. Care to elaborate?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedragunov is one of the few I think would be a lot more suited to AEW. Walter, unfortunately not, as they’ve shown they don’t book hosses that well.[close]
Interesting take. Care to elaborate?[close]
Based off seeing Ilja in the the Walter matches, he’s a guy who seems like he can really thrive in strong style matches. Maybe I’m off, but he seems like a mix between Mox and Darby and I don’t know where on the main roster he’d be able to show off that tenacity.
Walter/Gunter has the indie/PWG experience, but after Miro and Lance Archer, and to an extent Wardlow I don’t know that AEW would be the best fit for him other than unless he was going to be a Brodie Lee punisher challenge for a champ to endure. They already have Jade as the undefeated juggernaut, I don’t necessarily think they need a second
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotedragunov is one of the few I think would be a lot more suited to AEW. Walter, unfortunately not, as they’ve shown they don’t book hosses that well.[close]
Interesting take. Care to elaborate?[close]
Based off seeing Ilja in the the Walter matches, he’s a guy who seems like he can really thrive in strong style matches. Maybe I’m off, but he seems like a mix between Mox and Darby and I don’t know where on the main roster he’d be able to show off that tenacity.
Walter/Gunter has the indie/PWG experience, but after Miro and Lance Archer, and to an extent Wardlow I don’t know that AEW would be the best fit for him other than unless he was going to be a Brodie Lee punisher challenge for a champ to endure. They already have Jade as the undefeated juggernaut, I don’t necessarily think they need a second[close]
I see Dragunov in a heavy mid card to quick main event role. I certainly could see him having a long run as an intercontinental champion (like Gunther) or be the US champ as a heel since they have the real opportunity (first non kayfabe Russian in WWE history) to go with that. Tap into the whole foreign villain story, etc. He has such as a classic in ring performance, just like Gunther. I feel like AEW would royally miss the mark on him & now you have nothing.
Side note: I cannot stand Darby Allin.
I’m going to NJPW at the ECW Arena next month.
Expand QuoteI’m going to NJPW at the ECW Arena next month.[close]
Have they announced a card? This year its a ppv and you know guys are gonna want to step it up in the house of hardcore so it's probably going to be great. I'd totally go to that if I was in the area. I've actually never been to the ECW Arena somehow. I drove past it while I was passing through town once but it was like 9am and this was during the years it was really a dump so there was nothing to see.
Brian Zane's revolution review is up. I like this guy, he just seems really wholesome.. Like I bet he has an unattractive wife but loves her just the same. These videos are a good highlight/summary/review in one so a good watch if you've missed a show. He has tons of classic ppvs reviews too. Dudes living the dream, he even turned it into a manager spot in pre-khan ROH and now he's got his own hometown indy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AgmX--y5x6s
Had to turn off Dynamite tonight. Nothing kept my interest.
The Saraya and company NWO bit is so lame. The AEW women’s roster has some great wrestlers that get buried over and over again because of bad booking. Not pursuing the Hayter vs. DMD angle was the dumbest idea. Would’ve gotten Hayter extra over. Their champion is taking a backseat to the painfully lame Saraya vs. DMD story because they mishandled her.
Is it just me or does anybody else groan every time Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and company come on? I feel like they’re just there to derail anything that actually could be interesting.
Revolution was tight though! Glad House of Black is back at the forefront.
Hobbs is a better talker than QT, why is QT his new mouthpiece? 🤡
Expand QuoteHobbs is a better talker than QT, why is QT his new mouthpiece? 🤡[close]
Because QT is an ass kisser and one of Tonys boys backstage. I think there was some scuttlebutt that came out not too long ago that said that he was part of the backstage group that Tony listened to for booking decisions (along with Punk and some other people that made no sense at all) around the time everything went to shit. Makes sense he would attach himself to the brightest young star they have if he has that kind of sway. I know a lot of new fans hate him because they don't get wrestling, but he's pretty good at what he does... He has a pretty extensive repertoire of classic heel cheating schtick. The kind of shit that was developed so people in the back row of a smokey arena could see it. Its lost on a lot of people but I get a kick out of seeing it. He's definitely not a good talker though.
Watched dynamite
OC vs lethal was pretty uninspired. Normally these guys are good but I think fans are sick of seeing both them every show.
Wardlow over-pronounces everything he says. I hope Hobbs is scared of getting dee-moll-ished.
Just gonna say it. Ruby fucking sucks. Her promos are not only boring but grating. Thigh blue is already better than her in basically every way.
MJFs bloody post-match promo was un-fucking-real as usual. WPG is in for a treat when he comes to Winnipeg.
Don't care to hear FTR talk. Let me guess...they talked about their families and how hard theyve worked?
Jades promos are stiff but it still works because she's so goddamn impressive looking.
Not watching a Sammy match so I skipped the trios match too. I'm sure Jericho sunk his fangs into Dante at some point though, it's what he does.
Tonys big announcement is they're renaming the all Atlantic title? That was such a herb Abrams-esque promo.
Bcc vs dork order - skimmed it... Wheeler Yuta sucks and I don't know how anyone ever hyped him up. Really sick of this stuff and I don't give a shit about a half hearted, poorly fitting heel turn because they have nothing else to do with them. The answer to them being stale is not going bad, it's going away. Should have done it when Regal left and really should do it now.
Main event was underwhelming. I had my suspicions that wardlows win was transitional and I guess I get what they were going for but QT makes no sense and is an albatross around Hobbs' neck. The match was just a lot of big boy go boom spots which I'd be fine with if it wasn't such an obvious pre-planned route with a bunch of shit set up specifically to go through. The crowd did not seem to enjoy it either... doesn't bode well when the heel is more over than the baby face to start a program and I felt like it ended on a bit of a whimper.
So yeah I guess expecting dynamite to get back on track after a strong ppv was too much. One step forward, two steps back.
Apparently Lethal vs Orange had been drawing over 1M during each of their last two matches
Spot on & AEW is relatively new to me. Curious on who’ll be going up against Gunther at Wrestlemania after tonight. Regardless, I want to see them beat down by Gunther & let this reign continue. Preordered a Gunther WWE last week & currently bidding on a Walter on eBay.
Ring General!
Right now I think I’ll enjoy AEW Dark more than Wednesdays & Fridays.
Expand QuoteApparently Lethal vs Orange had been drawing over 1M during each of their last two matches[close]
Im like 90% sure they've opened the show every time and the first match almost always draws a strong # since it takes a bit for people to change over. I love Lethal and his matches are usually good but especially when you add in all the multiman tags I think they've just gone to that well too many times.
I know I sound like a broken record with the "Tonys out of ideas" stuff but if you're running OC vs Lethal in the same spot for the third time in under a year while Miro and Lance Archer and Dalton Castle are sitting at home, you need some new ideas man. So much talent just gathering dust in the toy box.Expand Quote
Spot on & AEW is relatively new to me. Curious on who’ll be going up against Gunther at Wrestlemania after tonight. Regardless, I want to see them beat down by Gunther & let this reign continue. Preordered a Gunther WWE last week & currently bidding on a Walter on eBay.
Ring General!
Right now I think I’ll enjoy AEW Dark more than Wednesdays & Fridays.[close]
Dark and Elevation are straight up my favorite AEW shows. They're the closest modern thing to the old wwf Saturday morning and WCW Saturday night shows I grew up on and Excalibur and Taz are so much more enjoyable when it's just the two of them. You get a nice mix of styles in ring too and it's been cool to see people like Hayter and the Acclaimed grow and become stars. I'd legitimately rather watch Hayter squash an indy girl in 5 minutes in than that 3 way from the ppv. Plus it's about the only place I get to see my beloved Dalton Castle unless I want to sign up for honor club.
I still can't take the Gunther thing seriously. It just makes me feel like he's supposed to be some Augustus gloop style caricature of a chubby German guy. I would not be at all shocked if the original idea Vince/HHH had included him wearing lederhosen and carrying a stein while making bad sausage jokes. I know he's made the most of his push but man I miss the old wxw ring general Walter making people's chests bleed with 3 chops.
Ring Kampf with him and Thatcher was one of the things that sparked an interest in indy wrestling for me when I wasn't watching WWE. A group of fanatical wrestling adherents who are so cold and clinical in their presentation, yet somehow even more brutal once the bell rings? And the leader is a towering, intimidating Austrian monster who's philosophy is "the mat is sacred"? Inject that shit straight into my veins man haha.
I’ll check this out. You’re referring to Timothy Thatcher, correct?
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I’ll check this out. You’re referring to Timothy Thatcher, correct?[close]
Yeah it was Thatcher, Walter, and Axel Dieter/ Ludwig Kaiser or whatever they call him in WWE. If you want the best stuff look for like 2016/2017 WxW/progress/PWG. Thatcher and Walter were both so good at that hard hitting style that seemed designed to torture and brutalize opponents as much as beat them. It went beyond strong style... It was like sadistic style or something haha. Here's a quick highlight but this isn't even one of the best matches for me.
https://youtu.be/DU050KYTqOk
WxW and progress were on the network but I saw something not that long ago about WWE dropping the indies or the contract expiring or something like that. I don't have peacock anymore to check if it's still up but if it is I'd watch it sooner than later.
For all of the old dudes or just people who like listening to Corny tell stories, here's a hilarious one. I know I already wrote a horrible summary of the George Gulas thing, but this is so much better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T9pMT4cnPgI
This looks beyond grand. Thank you BFRD
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No problem. One of the things NXT was smart enough to do was recognize the chemistry and talent on display in those kinds of matches was special, and when they brought those guys in they didn't change much, about them. They definitely WWE'd them up a little bit but not so much it felt like a bad imitation like so many others have been.
I know you like Dragunov so if you haven't already seen it the 2017 match is kind of where it all started. I'd say their later matches are better (they're definitely more polished), but I love seeing how stuff like that evolved.
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No problem. One of the things NXT was smart enough to do was recognize the chemistry and talent on display in those kinds of matches was special, and when they brought those guys in they didn't change much, about them. They definitely WWE'd them up a little bit but not so much it felt like a bad imitation like so many others have been.
I know you like Dragunov so if you haven't already seen it the 2017 match is kind of where it all started. I'd say their later matches are better (they're definitely more polished), but I love seeing how stuff like that evolved.[close]
Are you referring to the video you sent for Dragunov?
Also, WXW is still on peacock.
Bobby Gunns rules.
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No problem. One of the things NXT was smart enough to do was recognize the chemistry and talent on display in those kinds of matches was special, and when they brought those guys in they didn't change much, about them. They definitely WWE'd them up a little bit but not so much it felt like a bad imitation like so many others have been.
I know you like Dragunov so if you haven't already seen it the 2017 match is kind of where it all started. I'd say their later matches are better (they're definitely more polished), but I love seeing how stuff like that evolved.[close]
Are you referring to the video you sent for Dragunov?
Also, WXW is still on peacock.
Bobby Gunns rules.[close]
No, I'm saying look for Walter - Ilya singles stuff from around that time. The 2017 match was the one that made everyone take notice, but it wasn't the first one and they did it again 2 or 3 more times before they went to NXT. All are insanely good matches.
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=111&nr=39292&page=2
WxW has some cool little ideas and always brings in great talent. You'll get some original and kinda cool stuff like Cara Noir along with like Jeff Cobb or Ospreay. It's probably the best indy in mainland Europe in my opinion but I haven't really watched it since I ditched peacock.
Winnipeg just renamed the street I grew up on Chris Jericho Way so I pretty happy with that and excited for the show tonight
Dark Order vs. BCC was actually a great match and Mox doesn't bleed at all. You hear that MOX?? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BLEED EVERY SINGLE MATCH!! I don't remember Stu Grayson being that exciting in the ring.
Trios match was great. House of Black looked out of their element but JAS & the Elite were on it. Omega’s skills were shown & I definitely have a tad more appreciation for him. Let’s just get rid of the Kansas intro.
Fenix vs Hobbs on Rampage could be a good time
After their history in NJPW, I don’t think you throw that Omega/Jericho match together without any build. I get your reasoning, it would almost be the place to do that WWE “can these two enemies get along on a tag team” match if there was any build for that either.
I can relate to your Bucks issue. It’s the same reason RR or huge Battle Royales annoy me. No one acts like a real human would
Mox bladed at the house show. I think I’ve gone so far away from it that I might be coming back around
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I hate to say this because it's such a fucking "IWC" thing to think, but I kinda wonder if he's not basically using it like a cutter would to replace the booze. I mean he's always been willing to bleed, but it feels like it didn't get to the "at least once a week" level until after he came back from his break. Didn't he blade his arm at some point too?
I think the only time I've ever thought it was cool for someone to bleed every match was the sandman in ECW and that's because he was hard way-ing himself with a beer can with Metallica blasting through the building and half the time it was just a dribble of blood down the middle of his forehead rather than a full gross congealed crimson mask like Mox is doing. It's kind of weird to me because it's not like he's Abdullah who straight up couldn't do much except bleed... Mox can fucking go so it's actually detracting from all these no build matches rather than adding to them for me. Just because you idolize Onita doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to wrestling like him ya dig?
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I hate to say this because it's such a fucking "IWC" thing to think, but I kinda wonder if he's not basically using it like a cutter would to replace the booze. I mean he's always been willing to bleed, but it feels like it didn't get to the "at least once a week" level until after he came back from his break. Didn't he blade his arm at some point too?
I think the only time I've ever thought it was cool for someone to bleed every match was the sandman in ECW and that's because he was hard way-ing himself with a beer can with Metallica blasting through the building and half the time it was just a dribble of blood down the middle of his forehead rather than a full gross congealed crimson mask like Mox is doing. It's kind of weird to me because it's not like he's Abdullah who straight up couldn't do much except bleed... Mox can fucking go so it's actually detracting from all these no build matches rather than adding to them for me. Just because you idolize Onita doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to wrestling like him ya dig?[close]
I totally thought the same thing. But if your top guy is going to insist on something I’m glad it’s this shit rather than some kind of Hogan/Nash booking bullshit
The Saraya and company NWO bit is so lame. The AEW women’s roster has some great wrestlers that get buried over and over again because of bad booking. Not pursuing the Hayter vs. DMD angle was the dumbest idea. Would’ve gotten Hayter extra over. Their champion is taking a backseat to the painfully lame Saraya vs. DMD story because they mishandled her.
Is it just me or does anybody else groan every time Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and company come on? I feel like they’re just there to derail anything that actually could be interesting.
Revolution was tight though! Glad House of Black is back at the forefront.
Expand QuoteThe Saraya and company NWO bit is so lame. The AEW women’s roster has some great wrestlers that get buried over and over again because of bad booking. Not pursuing the Hayter vs. DMD angle was the dumbest idea. Would’ve gotten Hayter extra over. Their champion is taking a backseat to the painfully lame Saraya vs. DMD story because they mishandled her.
Is it just me or does anybody else groan every time Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and company come on? I feel like they’re just there to derail anything that actually could be interesting.
Revolution was tight though! Glad House of Black is back at the forefront.[close]
JJ needs to quit. Whenever I see him I just picture that terrible WCW title match where Booker T won the WC title from him & it was just a complete circus.
Looks like we will see the Demon Finn Balor at Wrestlemania. I think this is a solid move & hopefully the Judgement day just stops.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Saraya and company NWO bit is so lame. The AEW women’s roster has some great wrestlers that get buried over and over again because of bad booking. Not pursuing the Hayter vs. DMD angle was the dumbest idea. Would’ve gotten Hayter extra over. Their champion is taking a backseat to the painfully lame Saraya vs. DMD story because they mishandled her.
Is it just me or does anybody else groan every time Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and company come on? I feel like they’re just there to derail anything that actually could be interesting.
Revolution was tight though! Glad House of Black is back at the forefront.[close]
JJ needs to quit. Whenever I see him I just picture that terrible WCW title match where Booker T won the WC title from him & it was just a complete circus.
Looks like we will see the Demon Finn Balor at Wrestlemania. I think this is a solid move & hopefully the Judgement day just stops.[close]
Luckily WWE fans have no memory and won’t recall the damage they did to the demon when he had the match against Roman
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Saraya and company NWO bit is so lame. The AEW women’s roster has some great wrestlers that get buried over and over again because of bad booking. Not pursuing the Hayter vs. DMD angle was the dumbest idea. Would’ve gotten Hayter extra over. Their champion is taking a backseat to the painfully lame Saraya vs. DMD story because they mishandled her.
Is it just me or does anybody else groan every time Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and company come on? I feel like they’re just there to derail anything that actually could be interesting.
Revolution was tight though! Glad House of Black is back at the forefront.[close]
JJ needs to quit. Whenever I see him I just picture that terrible WCW title match where Booker T won the WC title from him & it was just a complete circus.
Looks like we will see the Demon Finn Balor at Wrestlemania. I think this is a solid move & hopefully the Judgement day just stops.[close]
Luckily WWE fans have no memory and won’t recall the damage they did to the demon when he had the match against Roman[close]
I think it was a flash in the pan.
Thigh Blue showing some real talent out there.
Can the Dark Order please please please get a W at some point? If not just break them up already. I think they should have won the trios match last week. They could have had Stu pin Wheely Useless and everything would be fine they could have still jumped them after the match and Mox could still kick Stu's ass in a great match last night. I still don't remember Stu being that great in the ring, and mox didn't blade so that was nice.
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Thigh Blue showing some real talent out there.
Can the Dark Order please please please get a W at some point? If not just break them up already. I think they should have won the trios match last week. They could have had Stu pin Wheely Useless and everything would be fine they could have still jumped them after the match and Mox could still kick Stu's ass in a great match last night. I still don't remember Stu being that great in the ring, and mox didn't blade so that was nice.[close]
Dude that's exactly what I said about last week haha.. If they had let Stu get the pin in Canada the roof would have blown off that place and made DO look stronger than they have in ages. You can still do the exact same afterbirth and story and the only thing that changes is dark order don't look like huge jobbers and the fans get something to cheer for. Love me some Stu man, when I was binging dark and elevation last spring he was a real standout for me. No real gimmick, kinda looks like shit, but boy can he fucking rassle.
Sting doing OC then taking Kip Saballerina's head off was nice. I didn't like the amount of no-selling either, but what the fuck is Butcher's new look? Is he supposed to be a street fighter character or something?
Don't like Top Flight being basically jobbers lately. Those kids are too talented and could use a run like Dantes single push. They need more heel teams, even if they just do the old throw two heels together and squash some jobbers thing.
I'm rooting for the Gunns against FTR. Dax is pretty unlikeable.
Hooks chair shots on the ground were pretty bad. I don't think he even made contact with Stokely.
Had to skip the Adam Cole segment after he did his fake stutter thing. Matt Jackson does it too and once you notice it it's all you hear.
Wheeler Yuta looks like Moxley's little brother that their mom made him bring along.
Thigh Blue is starting to put it together but I'd like to volunteer to help her work on her leg slaps.
Half the audience doesn't buy Riho to begin with, so let's put her with one of our biggest girls and make her carry a weapon that shows just how tiny and unintimidating she really is. Brilliant! Female Marko Stunt for me.
Main event was uneven for me, but it was actually Kenny who I thought was a step behind for once. Little stuff like staring straight up at Vikingo instead of selling felt a bit weird to me,
and the pacing seemed a little messy so I didn't really get fully into it but the high spots were insane. That fakie second rope phoenix splash thing is super cool and the 630 looked way better than when I've seen other guys do it. I got some Rey Rey in the 90s vibes from Vikingo, like he's clearly way ahead of the curve. His shit looked stiff and it seems like there's some steak behind the sizzle.
I skipped Adam Coles segment and most of the bcc crap. This heel turn feels awkward, especially with Moxley's whole "man of the people" entrance. Should have broken them up when willy reags left.
Not a bad show on a micro level but zooming out some of the booking still feels stale (bcc) or icky (the outcasts).
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Thigh Blue showing some real talent out there.
Can the Dark Order please please please get a W at some point? If not just break them up already. I think they should have won the trios match last week. They could have had Stu pin Wheely Useless and everything would be fine they could have still jumped them after the match and Mox could still kick Stu's ass in a great match last night. I still don't remember Stu being that great in the ring, and mox didn't blade so that was nice.[close]
Dude that's exactly what I said about last week haha.. If they had let Stu get the pin in Canada the roof would have blown off that place and made DO look stronger than they have in ages. You can still do the exact same afterbirth and story and the only thing that changes is dark order don't look like huge jobbers and the fans get something to cheer for. Love me some Stu man, when I was binging dark and elevation last spring he was a real standout for me. No real gimmick, kinda looks like shit, but boy can he fucking rassle.
Sting doing OC then taking Kip Saballerina's head off was nice. I didn't like the amount of no-selling either, but what the fuck is Butcher's new look? Is he supposed to be a street fighter character or something?
Don't like Top Flight being basically jobbers lately. Those kids are too talented and could use a run like Dantes single push. They need more heel teams, even if they just do the old throw two heels together and squash some jobbers thing.
I'm rooting for the Gunns against FTR. Dax is pretty unlikeable.
Hooks chair shots on the ground were pretty bad. I don't think he even made contact with Stokely.
Had to skip the Adam Cole segment after he did his fake stutter thing. Matt Jackson does it too and once you notice it it's all you hear.
Wheeler Yuta looks like Moxley's little brother that their mom made him bring along.
Thigh Blue is starting to put it together but I'd like to volunteer to help her work on her leg slaps.
Half the audience doesn't buy Riho to begin with, so let's put her with one of our biggest girls and make her carry a weapon that shows just how tiny and unintimidating she really is. Brilliant! Female Marko Stunt for me.
Main event was uneven for me, but it was actually Kenny who I thought was a step behind for once. Little stuff like staring straight up at Vikingo instead of selling felt a bit weird to me,
and the pacing seemed a little messy so I didn't really get fully into it but the high spots were insane. That fakie second rope phoenix splash thing is super cool and the 630 looked way better than when I've seen other guys do it. I got some Rey Rey in the 90s vibes from Vikingo, like he's clearly way ahead of the curve. His shit looked stiff and it seems like there's some steak behind the sizzle.
I skipped Adam Coles segment and most of the bcc crap. This heel turn feels awkward, especially with Moxley's whole "man of the people" entrance. Should have broken them up when willy reags left.
Not a bad show on a micro level but zooming out some of the booking still feels stale (bcc) or icky (the outcasts).
Hook looks like he’d fit on FA
Going to wrestlemania! Night 2 only. Don’t think I can physically sit thru both nights. I hope that the demon/edge match is that night
Hook's error with the chair shots were beyond obvious. Whenever I see Hook, I just think of the kids I used to work with at an alternative school. They can't even begin to formulate why they're pissed all of the time.
immediately thought the same thing about Butcher. You nailed it with the Street Fighter (im guessing chunky Vega), I was originally thinking Brazilian waiter. He's had such good looks over his AEW career from the monocle days to the Natural Born Killers all-white. I have faith in him finding it again.
Cole's segment was good because it showed Daniel Garcia has grown a lot on the mic. I hope Lee Moriarty gets some more prominence soon.
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Hook's error with the chair shots were beyond obvious. Whenever I see Hook, I just think of the kids I used to work with at an alternative school. They can't even begin to formulate why they're pissed all of the time.[close]
Theres obviously something there with Hook, but he's been booked like Roman for his entire run and Im worried it's doing more harm than good long term. He works like 2 squash matches a month and doesn't cut promos. Damn near every single great wrestler will tell you that they got that way through practice and repetition, so I don't know if he's ever gonna get there until they actually send him out on the road and see if he can hang.
It's funny you mention alternative school cuz in reality he's kind of a stereotypical rich kid - minor celeb father, grew up in one of those rich 98% white communities on long island, played lacrosse, went to Bucknell, can almost guarantee he's never had a real job etc. I don't hold it against him but it's kinda comical to hear people try to make out like he's an actual street fighting badass because his dad is Taz haha.Expand Quote
immediately thought the same thing about Butcher. You nailed it with the Street Fighter (im guessing chunky Vega), I was originally thinking Brazilian waiter. He's had such good looks over his AEW career from the monocle days to the Natural Born Killers all-white. I have faith in him finding it again.
Cole's segment was good because it showed Daniel Garcia has grown a lot on the mic. I hope Lee Moriarty gets some more prominence soon.[close]
Brazilian waiter kinda works. The little hip scarf thing like Vega was definitely why I thought that but on second thought I might go with the bad guy in a low budget Bloodsport knock-off....one where Frank is played by Rob Van Dam. Butcher does usually have a cool look now that you mention it (blade looks like a male porn star).
I actually always thought Garcia could kinda talk but just usually doesn't have anything of substance to say. When they were doing the Jericho vs BD thing he gave a few promos I liked. He's got the Jey Uso thing where he's a little over-expressive sometimes but I guess it's better than being expressionless.
Might have to watch that ROH match. I wasn't blown away by Komander but Vikingo has my attention.
Kenny Vs Jeff Cobb should be good.
I’m missing the ROH ppv and Wrestlemania since I’ll be in Miami then and won’t have time to bother with Peacock.
Also, who else here knows Ed Leslie’s WWE gimmick wasn’t really a barber? 😂
https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk (https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk)
Kenny Vs Jeff Cobb should be good.
I’m missing the ROH ppv and Wrestlemania since I’ll be in Miami then and won’t have time to bother with Peacock.
Also, who else here knows Ed Leslie’s WWE gimmick wasn’t really a barber? 😂
https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk (https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk)
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I’m missing the ROH ppv and Wrestlemania since I’ll be in Miami then and won’t have time to bother with Peacock.
Also, who else here knows Ed Leslie’s WWE gimmick wasn’t really a barber? 😂
https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk (https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk)[close]
There's plenty of wm streams out there if you Google it. Pm me if you have trouble finding one, but mania is something even regular sports streamers usually cover. Ill probably watch it just for the bloodline stuff and to see Choady.
Cobb vs Omega should be killer. Huge fan of Cobb ever since LU (Matanza was one of the best booked monsters since Kane in my opinion) and I hope they put on a show. They wrestled a tag a few months ago in NJPW and it was pretty good, so hopefully this one is the same.
That Brutus clip is great, definitely doesn't help those old rumors about him and Hogan haha. Wrestling was so cheesy and homoerotic in the 80s and it's so much fun to watch now haha. I love shit like this.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteKenny Vs Jeff Cobb should be good.
I’m missing the ROH ppv and Wrestlemania since I’ll be in Miami then and won’t have time to bother with Peacock.
Also, who else here knows Ed Leslie’s WWE gimmick wasn’t really a barber? 😂
https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk (https://youtu.be/VtIrv0LwHmk)[close]
There's plenty of wm streams out there if you Google it. Pm me if you have trouble finding one, but mania is something even regular sports streamers usually cover. Ill probably watch it just for the bloodline stuff and to see Choady.
Cobb vs Omega should be killer. Huge fan of Cobb ever since LU (Matanza was one of the best booked monsters since Kane in my opinion) and I hope they put on a show. They wrestled a tag a few months ago in NJPW and it was pretty good, so hopefully this one is the same.
That Brutus clip is great, definitely doesn't help those old rumors about him and Hogan haha. Wrestling was so cheesy and homoerotic in the 80s and it's so much fun to watch now haha. I love shit like this.[close]
https://youtu.be/p68w3BESrEA (https://youtu.be/p68w3BESrEA)
Also, Dalton Castle & The Boys Vs BCC on Wednesday.
I usually suspect that matches that seem like they’d be that kind of massacre tend to have some kind of swerve planned like when the FBI beat the Gangstanators back in the day.
Cody Rhodes with a win over Solo Sikoa last night. First time in awhile I said “wow” out loud. Certainly thought it would have ended in a DQ.
Gunther squash match was a nice little bonus. Wild that Dolph Ziggler is the new squash guy.
Garcia vs Tanahashi added to ROH card
He’d never do it, but I’d love for Goldberg to be MJF’s big Jewish muscle
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He’d never do it, but I’d love for Goldberg to be MJF’s big Jewish muscle[close]
Dude I've seen some articles about this. His WWE contract is up and he has said he wants a proper retirement match and is not sure WWE wants to do it for him.
Goldberg as MJF's muscle would be amazing.
The other guy that does the podcast with cornette has said he is not super into MJF using the Jewishness to get heat because of the trending antisemitism in society right now. He is jewish so he definitely has a valid opinion.
But dude, Goldberg jackhammering dudes while wearing a yamukah would be all time.
Tuned in for the main event of ROH and then went back and watched some of the other stuff.
What is up with those Martin boys and snapping their legs? Is their father a balsa tree or something? Poor Dante. It's gonna be interesting if Darius will get a singles push like Dante did when Darius was out.
The main event... I just... I love Eddie as a character and would cheer loudly for him if I were in the building but watching his matches on TV has been pretty rough the last few times. He's a great talker but once the mic is off it's just a bunch of slaps and awkward transitions punctuated by him taking big bumps. Add that to Claudio being super vanilla and it wasn't a great viewing experience.
At least Wheely doesn't have his useless belt anymore but this almost feels like when they used to send belts no one cares about off to Japan to die. Im having a hard time getting excited about 2023 Shibata as well.
Going home to watch mania with my best bud from high school/college tonight. He doesn't really watch wrestling anymore and I don't really watch the fed, but it's mania so it's basically tailored to guys like us. Night one is definitely weaker on paper this year. I think I might legit be more excited for Charlotte and Rhea than anything else
Edit - I think my heart just took a stiff lariat. She cleans up well but in some ways I kinda prefer her rough around the edges look. It fits her in ring style.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jmehytr/status/1641862991636226059
Yeah it seemed like the fans shit on that Shibata match pretty hard and the stream chat wasn't a fan either. I think pure rules can work, but TK did a horrible job of introducing his audience to it and there hasn't been that signature match or guy that really gets it over yet. Wheely was never that guy and then trying to make him seem like a vicious heel lately isn't really the best way to get over a "gentleman" belt.
I watched some of it this morning, Nigel was a nice surprise but I don't actually like his commentary haha. Takeashita and Keith Lee's poke-cousin had a decent little scrap on the pre show.
How was willow live? I feel like she hits twice as hard as the other girls not named Hayter. The girl she was wrestling felt a little indy but she bumped well.
Vikingo vs Komander was good. I could do without the little double ground touch pose thing though haha. It annoyed me when Ospreay and Ricochet did it a decade ago and it's pretty played out. Komander did better job than Kenny of selling the flip to hurricanrana stuff. That table spot looked brutal too.
AR Fox is awesome. Don't know why I like him so much but I do.
Tanahashi deserves better than Daniel Garcia.
Everyone deserves better than Wheeler Yuta. Haha nah I'm mostly working about that... I don't really dislike him I'm just not sure what people were thinking when they were comparing him to steamboat and insisting he was the future of the company. Shibata no-selling his chops was funny but that's about all that match had going on.
The ladder spot fest was fun but the Dante thing definitely soured it a bit. Were you ringside for that or just the main?
Mark vs Joe was my highlight, it felt more like an ROH match to me than anything else, but that's probably partially because I very closely associate Joe with the company. Those chops were nasty and that ending sequences was pure violent beauty that only Joe could deliver. I wish they'd have put the belt on Mark but hopefully they're setting it up for a redemption angle.
Endeavor likely buying the Fed, is going to something to combine UFC and WWE (brought to you by the barest skimming of headlines)
Expand QuoteCody Rhodes with a win over Solo Sikoa last night. First time in awhile I said “wow” out loud. Certainly thought it would have ended in a DQ.
Gunther squash match was a nice little bonus. Wild that Dolph Ziggler is the new squash guy.[close]
Yeah a little surprised at Solo too. Very un-WWE booking. Almost makes you think Cody’s not coming away with the win at WM
Rhea vs Hayter would be a damn good Forbidden Door match
Went back and watched some of the stuff I missed on Sunday. Definitely didn't like it as much as night one.
Cool with Bianca winning but I do love me some Asuka.
What the fuck was Edges entrance supposed to be? I support slayer being blasted as much as the next old white guy but that felt weird. Then finn doing his weird bird dance and playing with paintball smoke grenades seemed super awkward too.
I can't even begin to describe how stupid it is to stop the match and have a doc come in the ring because someone got busted open in a fucking hell in a cell match. Fully ruined it for me.
The main event dragged pretty bad too. If you're gonna beat Cody then just do it roman style and squash him in 10 minutes.
Oh well, back not giving this sick old fuck and all his enablers and apologists my money or attention. I do feel blessed I got to see another McMahon tear both his quads in the ring though.
I think having Roman go over was the right call for now but it’s gotta end soon. He’s out of contenders who we can believe may take the titles.
Good to see the Best In The World was back, despite his botch.
Expand QuoteI think having Roman go over was the right call for now but it’s gotta end soon. He’s out of contenders who we can believe may take the titles.
Good to see the Best In The World was back, despite his botch.[close]
But who takes it? Cody was the last one to make sense. Jey wouldn’t be elevated by the title and would like have a kofi style reign - fine, but not exceptional. Honestly, Dwayne is the only one who makes sense anymore.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI think having Roman go over was the right call for now but it’s gotta end soon. He’s out of contenders who we can believe may take the titles.
Good to see the Best In The World was back, despite his botch.[close]
But who takes it? Cody was the last one to make sense. Jey wouldn’t be elevated by the title and would like have a kofi style reign - fine, but not exceptional. Honestly, Dwayne is the only one who makes sense anymore.[close]
I think it can be any top guy ONCE the Bloodline is dissolved as they are the only reason Reigns retains. So without them, he’d have lost already from a story line perspective. It was a wrap last night had Solo remained ejected from ringside. So I think we are headed in that slow but sure direction as the Usos lost. Otherwise we may see a draft & those titles split.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI think having Roman go over was the right call for now but it’s gotta end soon. He’s out of contenders who we can believe may take the titles.
Good to see the Best In The World was back, despite his botch.[close]
But who takes it? Cody was the last one to make sense. Jey wouldn’t be elevated by the title and would like have a kofi style reign - fine, but not exceptional. Honestly, Dwayne is the only one who makes sense anymore.[close]
I think it can be any top guy ONCE the Bloodline is dissolved as they are the only reason Reigns retains. So without them, he’d have lost already from a story line perspective. It was a wrap last night had Solo remained ejected from ringside. So I think we are headed in that slow but sure direction as the Usos lost. Otherwise we may see a draft & those titles split.[close]
I see what you mean and I like the idea, but I think that special moment is gone after Sami last month and Cody now. If Roman finally drops it at a Saudi show…
As much as I like Cody and will always admire how much of a purebred carny he is, I think realistically now that Vincent McPrice is back his odds of winning the belt drastic go down (like Kurt Angle was added to the mix). If ever there was a time to do it it was last night, but this is VKM we're talking about so I feel like we might have a better shot at seeing Cody and Brandi shucking and jiving in polka dots at this point.
I almost think Vince either will just let Roman win everything until he gets bored and leaves for his inevitable failed acting stint, or he'll make him drop it to Theory.
Endeavor deal just makes it easier to hate them and I kinda hope they run off all the talent like they have in the UFC.
I dunno about blowing quads, but I feel like Steph certainly knows a thing or two about blowing Trips. Heyyyy-oooooo!
Before night 2 started, we watched most of 1983's AWA Super Sunday program. Hulk losing his title match to Bockwinkel due to a retroactive DQ was interesting to see, apparently many consider it a watershed moment in the beginning of the end of the era of the territories. Main event had Mad Dog Vachon & Verne Gagne against Jerry Blackwell and Sheik Adnan al Kaisse, that was pretty awesome.
So jealous of that joke. Jesus
Obviously could google this (but I like tapping people’s direct knowledge) - Jay White related to one of the Bushwhackers?
Expand QuoteObviously could google this (but I like tapping people’s direct knowledge) - Jay White related to one of the Bushwhackers?[close]
Never heard that before so I googled it and all I could find was a vague tweet. I'd say possible, maybe even plausible, but I'd need some sort of confirmation. I can't imagine the NZ wrestling community is huge so it's entirely possible it's like Hawaii or Memphis back in the day and everyone is somehow related either by blood or marriage. There was actually a NZ territory in the 80s that was either an affiliate or maybe even full member of the NWA and guys like Flair and Race would actually travel there to defend the belt from time to time. I stumbled upon it one time and it's pretty cool, classic studio wrestling but with a kiwi twist.
Apparently raw was an absolute disaster, Vince is back at gorilla, changed a bunch of shit right before the show, brought back his stupid commentary rules, and cut the women's match, and talent is not happy about any of this. I want it to be a dumpster fire so bad. Tony, this is your chance to gain back some ground. Please don't fuck it up.
Expand QuoteObviously could google this (but I like tapping people’s direct knowledge) - Jay White related to one of the Bushwhackers?[close]
Never heard that before so I googled it and all I could find was a vague tweet. I'd say possible, maybe even plausible, but I'd need some sort of confirmation. I can't imagine the NZ wrestling community is huge so it's entirely possible it's like Hawaii or Memphis back in the day and everyone is somehow related either by blood or marriage. There was actually a NZ territory in the 80s that was either an affiliate or maybe even full member of the NWA and guys like Flair and Race would actually travel there to defend the belt from time to time. I stumbled upon it one time and it's pretty cool, classic studio wrestling but with a kiwi twist.
Apparently raw was an absolute disaster, Vince is back at gorilla, changed a bunch of shit right before the show, brought back his stupid commentary rules, and cut the women's match, and talent is not happy about any of this. I want it to be a dumpster fire so bad. Tony, this is your chance to gain back some ground. Please don't fuck it up.
Also, there’s no way AEW will come out on top. They already are in their 1999 WCW phase.
I haven't watched Raw in a long time but I was pissed about how pointless that episode was. Lowlights for me were HHH coming to the ring to try and conVince himself everything will be alright, 2 squash matches, Seth entering the ring in full attire to just leave for no reason, hyped up main event not happening. Highlights Sami/KO vs profits, and I did enjoy brock beating up cody but would've rather watched the "Greatest Match in RAW History"
Apparently Cody losing was decided a while back, not a last minute decision. I know rumours of Roman vs Rock were circulating for over a year, so perhaps they had the continuation of Roman's story post WM written out after beating Rock and are just carrying on with that? Also makes sense they'd prefer him as the face of the company when this buyout happens too. Who knows, not sure it was a last minute Vinceism though.
Seems like a fun 9 months WWE had. I never tuned back in regularly but it seemed much better. I wonder how AEW will respond to the mess.
Shia LeBoeuf/Jay White
I thought Dynamite was good, but yeah the screwdriver thing was super cringe. I don't know why the 'gauge out the eye' thing is so common, it's so stupid.
Wembley show is huge, the stadium is 90,000 seats before floor seating. The announcement more than lived up to TK's hype this time for me but as a bri'ish I was laughing thinking about all the Americans raging at being underwhelmed lol. Shame it always rains on August bank holiday weekend thoughExpand QuoteShia LeBoeuf/Jay White[close]
Hahaha
I thought Dynamite was good, but yeah the screwdriver thing was super cringe. I don't know why the 'gauge out the eye' thing is so common, it's so stupid.
Wembley show is huge, the stadium is 90,000 seats before floor seating. The announcement more than lived up to TK's hype this time for me but as a bri'ish I was laughing thinking about all the Americans raging at being underwhelmed lol. Shame it always rains on August bank holiday weekend thoughExpand QuoteShia LeBoeuf/Jay White[close]
Hahaha
Expand QuoteI thought Dynamite was good, but yeah the screwdriver thing was super cringe. I don't know why the 'gauge out the eye' thing is so common, it's so stupid.
Wembley show is huge, the stadium is 90,000 seats before floor seating. The announcement more than lived up to TK's hype this time for me but as a bri'ish I was laughing thinking about all the Americans raging at being underwhelmed lol. Shame it always rains on August bank holiday weekend thoughExpand QuoteShia LeBoeuf/Jay White[close]
Hahaha[close]
How the hell are they going to make that place look full without paying people to come?
Expand QuoteI thought Dynamite was good, but yeah the screwdriver thing was super cringe. I don't know why the 'gauge out the eye' thing is so common, it's so stupid.
Wembley show is huge, the stadium is 90,000 seats before floor seating. The announcement more than lived up to TK's hype this time for me but as a bri'ish I was laughing thinking about all the Americans raging at being underwhelmed lol. Shame it always rains on August bank holiday weekend thoughExpand QuoteShia LeBoeuf/Jay White[close]
Hahaha[close]
How the hell are they going to make that place look full without paying people to come?
You def wouldn’t like it bc of the Sammy/Tay stuff.
I don’t mind Riho because she moves fast and projects fearlessness even though she looks like the Childlike Empress. I’ve seen a lot of nationally televised women matches of late where they seem to be going half speed, so I appreciate that these two had a great tempo going.
I feel they have something up their sleeve with Wembley. In the announcement, All In was tied pretty hard to WB’s 100 year celebration, so I gotta imagine there’s going to be something going on with that. Not to mention potentially:
- Omega vs Osprey (round 2?)
- Sting Retirement match
Wembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeksyou do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held in
you do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close]
Rewatched NXT Stand & Deliver.That match was fantastic
I suggest watching the Match for the North American title. No dull moments & just pure talent. JD McDonagh grew on me from that match alone (moon daily from the ropes was just so quick) & Dragon Lee in that kind of action with Axiom was great. Dragunov continues to be a mad man & I need more.
Then this week, Bron is a heel after the Hayes win….
you do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close]
Expand Quoteyou do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close][close]
Yeah it's also the largest audience they draw to any single anything, which was the point I'm making. If you have the numbers for their last UK megashow I'll gladly take them into consideration.
Their TV numbers over there could be deceptive because it's the inverse of the situation here - AEW airs on one of their (shittiest) free channels - actually I shouldn't say free as technically it's paid for by the TV license - and WWE is behind a paywall. No one really knows what the AEW UK audience is right now because half of them could be pensioners who fell asleep with it on one of their 10 channels they have.. or they could be people actually seeking it out.
Either way, on a good week they're pulling 200k viewers on free UK TV. Lately it's closer to 150. Maybe I'm wrong and over half of them show up and fork over a hundred £ to see it live, but if Vince could only get 80 in there while papering the shit out of it and having a huge build behind DBS then I'm not going to hold my breath on AEW filling the place.
The segment with Jon Moxley & his Club was seriously some of the worse wrestling I’ve seen in a long time. Claudio slamming Cuttlers head off of the apron was visibly fake & the blood is the definition of overcompensation. Then Kenny missing Moxley & Kansas blasting while the screwdriver is sticking out from the turnbuckle….. TERRIBLE. Soon we will see the likes of Vampiro, the Demon & someone wrestling to save their mom who is suspended from a forklift (some Buff Bagwell WCW nonsense)
Brett Hart is right…
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyou do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close][close]
Yeah it's also the largest audience they draw to any single anything, which was the point I'm making. If you have the numbers for their last UK megashow I'll gladly take them into consideration.
Their TV numbers over there could be deceptive because it's the inverse of the situation here - AEW airs on one of their (shittiest) free channels - actually I shouldn't say free as technically it's paid for by the TV license - and WWE is behind a paywall. No one really knows what the AEW UK audience is right now because half of them could be pensioners who fell asleep with it on one of their 10 channels they have.. or they could be people actually seeking it out.
Either way, on a good week they're pulling 200k viewers on free UK TV. Lately it's closer to 150. Maybe I'm wrong and over half of them show up and fork over a hundred £ to see it live, but if Vince could only get 80 in there while papering the shit out of it and having a huge build behind DBS then I'm not going to hold my breath on AEW filling the place.[close]
50k reservations for tickets apparently
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteyou do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close][close]
Yeah it's also the largest audience they draw to any single anything, which was the point I'm making. If you have the numbers for their last UK megashow I'll gladly take them into consideration.
Their TV numbers over there could be deceptive because it's the inverse of the situation here - AEW airs on one of their (shittiest) free channels - actually I shouldn't say free as technically it's paid for by the TV license - and WWE is behind a paywall. No one really knows what the AEW UK audience is right now because half of them could be pensioners who fell asleep with it on one of their 10 channels they have.. or they could be people actually seeking it out.
Either way, on a good week they're pulling 200k viewers on free UK TV. Lately it's closer to 150. Maybe I'm wrong and over half of them show up and fork over a hundred £ to see it live, but if Vince could only get 80 in there while papering the shit out of it and having a huge build behind DBS then I'm not going to hold my breath on AEW filling the place.[close]
50k reservations for tickets apparently[close]
Yeah and the video game is finished and they're just waiting for a release date right?
Glad Nakamura’s back and I hope they don’t mess his push up.
Shame they’ll probably elevate him at Killer Kross’ expense to start.
AEW brand split coming - CM Punk first feud is with Jericho
Just read this. Maybe AEW will be interesting….
On the WWE front, how do you game out the Brock/Cody match (assuming they plan to have an actual finish not a DQ). Brock can’t keep having loses (or I guess he can, Fed fans don’t care) and Cody def needs a win back
Expand QuoteAEW brand split coming - CM Punk first feud is with Jericho
Just read this. Maybe AEW will be interesting….
On the WWE front, how do you game out the Brock/Cody match (assuming they plan to have an actual finish not a DQ). Brock can’t keep having loses (or I guess he can, Fed fans don’t care) and Cody def needs a win back[close]
Cody will get a clean win over Lesnar & now his actual road to the Championship begins.
Dude I fucking actually really like Ludwig Kaiser. His delivery and cadence on the mic so so different than anyone else and their whole gimmick is just great to me. I would have liked to see Alexander Wolf as the 3rd guy or all 4 of them together but Giovanni is just a body with no charisma.
Expand QuoteDude I fucking actually really like Ludwig Kaiser. His delivery and cadence on the mic so so different than anyone else and their whole gimmick is just great to me. I would have liked to see Alexander Wolf as the 3rd guy or all 4 of them together but Giovanni is just a body with no charisma.[close]
Kaiser and Giovanni have great sync as a tag team. They remind me of Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon.
Dude I fucking actually really like Ludwig Kaiser. His delivery and cadence on the mic so so different than anyone else and their whole gimmick is just great to me. I would have liked to see Alexander Wolf as the 3rd guy or all 4 of them together but Giovanni is just a body with no charisma.
Expand Quoteyou do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close][close]
Yeah it's also the largest audience they draw to any single anything, which was the point I'm making. If you have the numbers for their last UK megashow I'll gladly take them into consideration.
Their TV numbers over there could be deceptive because it's the inverse of the situation here - AEW airs on one of their (shittiest) free channels - actually I shouldn't say free as technically it's paid for by the TV license - and WWE is behind a paywall. No one really knows what the AEW UK audience is right now because half of them could be pensioners who fell asleep with it on one of their 10 channels they have.. or they could be people actually seeking it out.
Either way, on a good week they're pulling 200k viewers on free UK TV. Lately it's closer to 150. Maybe I'm wrong and over half of them show up and fork over a hundred £ to see it live, but if Vince could only get 80 in there while papering the shit out of it and having a huge build behind DBS then I'm not going to hold my breath on AEW filling the place.
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6#msg3994176 date=1680864887you do know that the viewing figures you're referring to are from one country right? on a continent that this event is not being held inExpand QuoteWembley can hold almost 100k people which is like 1/8th of the viewers dynamite is getting some weeks[close][close]
Yeah it's also the largest audience they draw to any single anything, which was the point I'm making. If you have the numbers for their last UK megashow I'll gladly take them into consideration.
Their TV numbers over there could be deceptive because it's the inverse of the situation here - AEW airs on one of their (shittiest) free channels - actually I shouldn't say free as technically it's paid for by the TV license - and WWE is behind a paywall. No one really knows what the AEW UK audience is right now because half of them could be pensioners who fell asleep with it on one of their 10 channels they have.. or they could be people actually seeking it out.
Either way, on a good week they're pulling 200k viewers on free UK TV. Lately it's closer to 150. Maybe I'm wrong and over half of them show up and fork over a hundred £ to see it live, but if Vince could only get 80 in there while papering the shit out of it and having a huge build behind DBS then I'm not going to hold my breath on AEW filling the place.[close]
I wasn't even trying to defend AEW's decision really, I'm not massively confident on how the ticket sales will go. Was just pointing out that saying the capacity is "an 8th of the viewing figures" is some super Americentrism shit.
Just to your points though the cheapest seats are £30 apparently. Also ITV isn't funded by the licence fee.
Dynamite was decent; Surprisingly.
JAS & Adam Cole segment was pretty dreadful. An obvious attempt to to follow on the whole Judgement Day/Edge feud except done poorly. Britt Baker DMD not even moving while getting hit with a kendo sticks….
Leaked floorplan for All in from Ticketmaster. Looks like they're going for a minimal stage size and 90-100k capacity. Absolute nutters
(https://i.imgur.com/fuqHqNN.png)
36k in presales at Wembley
Expand Quote36k in presales at Wembley[close]
Listen, I hope they sell a lot more. I just am doubtful.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote36k in presales at Wembley[close]
Listen, I hope they sell a lot more. I just am doubtful.[close]
Sure they will. That’s pre-sale and before a card is even announced and Tony us def going to put a few Dream matches on there.
Edit: 43k now.
Dominik Mysterio needs a title run. He gets 2021 MJF heat.
Expand QuoteDominik Mysterio needs a title run. He gets 2021 MJF heat.[close]
But they don’t do the 24/7 belt anymore
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDominik Mysterio needs a title run. He gets 2021 MJF heat.[close]
But they don’t do the 24/7 belt anymore[close]
Dominik should get the full blown Universal Championship.
They should give it to Nakamura first, then eventually let Dominik beat him for it in a passing of the torch.
There’s a wrestling hot take for you.
Just got back from Dynamite/Rampage. Great lineup of matches but attendance and energy were notably down from last time they came through. Last time was their first time in Detroit and it was Blood and Guts so that’s to be expected, but I was basically this guy in my part of the nosebleed section:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/94ae5cc85b4003990ead0c1b85714dc2/tumblr_nkas8rBX851tlmk7po1_500.gif)
Though I did sneak down to the lower seats during Rampage because a ton of people emptied out.
Christian got far and away the loudest, longest reaction of the night with his promo. Couldn’t hear a word over the boos. He still rules.
Loved the Claudio/Fenix match and the trios match. Was pleasantly surprised by Anna Jay and Julia Hart. Main event was tight but I feel like I got the better version last year with Blood and Guts.
Expand QuoteJust got back from Dynamite/Rampage. Great lineup of matches but attendance and energy were notably down from last time they came through. Last time was their first time in Detroit and it was Blood and Guts so that’s to be expected, but I was basically this guy in my part of the nosebleed section:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/94ae5cc85b4003990ead0c1b85714dc2/tumblr_nkas8rBX851tlmk7po1_500.gif)
Though I did sneak down to the lower seats during Rampage because a ton of people emptied out.
Christian got far and away the loudest, longest reaction of the night with his promo. Couldn’t hear a word over the boos. He still rules.
Loved the Claudio/Fenix match and the trios match. Was pleasantly surprised by Anna Jay and Julia Hart. Main event was tight but I feel like I got the better version last year with Blood and Guts.[close]
Watched last night & the only match I missed was Claudio vs Fenix which by the reviews I am reading I would have enjoyed. The cage match was decent, what I would have expected by I am assuming that the Callis betrayal was the way to keep this match in the fans thoughts for more than 1 night. Christian Cage is solid though he did appear to make a couple of errors on the microphone. Right off of the bat if I remember correctly. I would be happy to see him dethrone Wardlow as I am not a fan at all. Also reading that he was charging or allowing to be charged an astronomical amount of money at an event & no one stopping by is hilarious. Christian is championship material. Always has been.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got back from Dynamite/Rampage. Great lineup of matches but attendance and energy were notably down from last time they came through. Last time was their first time in Detroit and it was Blood and Guts so that’s to be expected, but I was basically this guy in my part of the nosebleed section:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/94ae5cc85b4003990ead0c1b85714dc2/tumblr_nkas8rBX851tlmk7po1_500.gif)
Though I did sneak down to the lower seats during Rampage because a ton of people emptied out.
Christian got far and away the loudest, longest reaction of the night with his promo. Couldn’t hear a word over the boos. He still rules.
Loved the Claudio/Fenix match and the trios match. Was pleasantly surprised by Anna Jay and Julia Hart. Main event was tight but I feel like I got the better version last year with Blood and Guts.[close]
Watched last night & the only match I missed was Claudio vs Fenix which by the reviews I am reading I would have enjoyed. The cage match was decent, what I would have expected by I am assuming that the Callis betrayal was the way to keep this match in the fans thoughts for more than 1 night. Christian Cage is solid though he did appear to make a couple of errors on the microphone. Right off of the bat if I remember correctly. I would be happy to see him dethrone Wardlow as I am not a fan at all. Also reading that he was charging or allowing to be charged an astronomical amount of money at an event & no one stopping by is hilarious. Christian is championship material. Always has been.[close]
Wardlow was overcharging, not Christian, right?
That Christian/Kenny Omega match where he won the TNA belt a year ago was a good match, right? I missed his good years but that match let me see what I missed
Looks like it’ll be Rollins & Styles in Saudi Arabia for the new Heavyweight Championship. Reigns & Solo going for tag team titles too. This event should be the one that ends the Bloodline.
Expand QuoteLooks like it’ll be Rollins & Styles in Saudi Arabia for the new Heavyweight Championship. Reigns & Solo going for tag team titles too. This event should be the one that ends the Bloodline.[close]
If they’re keeping the title on Roman until next WM, Bloodline has to remain even if Jey breaks off
Fantasy booking irrelevant of age and condition and companies - have Samoa Joe be the one to dethrone Roman because he’s always been the outsider Samoan who hasn’t been able to trade in on WWE/Anoi’i legacy. Obviously that would make more sense with a Joe from the ROH days, but having him be the Bloodline’s Hound that they use to dirty work so they don’t dirty their “Royal” hands but he eventually turns on them would be cool imo. The Sami Zayn stuff was fine, but felt like a retread of a Mick Foley Attitude era storyline
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLooks like it’ll be Rollins & Styles in Saudi Arabia for the new Heavyweight Championship. Reigns & Solo going for tag team titles too. This event should be the one that ends the Bloodline.[close]
If they’re keeping the title on Roman until next WM, Bloodline has to remain even if Jey breaks off
Fantasy booking irrelevant of age and condition and companies - have Samoa Joe be the one to dethrone Roman because he’s always been the outsider Samoan who hasn’t been able to trade in on WWE/Anoi’i legacy. Obviously that would make more sense with a Joe from the ROH days, but having him be the Bloodline’s Hound that they use to dirty work so they don’t dirty their “Royal” hands but he eventually turns on them would be cool imo. The Sami Zayn stuff was fine, but felt like a retread of a Mick Foley Attitude era storyline[close]
Interesting take. Can’t say I’m a fan of Samoa Joe or see him leaving AEW.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLooks like it’ll be Rollins & Styles in Saudi Arabia for the new Heavyweight Championship. Reigns & Solo going for tag team titles too. This event should be the one that ends the Bloodline.[close]
If they’re keeping the title on Roman until next WM, Bloodline has to remain even if Jey breaks off
Fantasy booking irrelevant of age and condition and companies - have Samoa Joe be the one to dethrone Roman because he’s always been the outsider Samoan who hasn’t been able to trade in on WWE/Anoi’i legacy. Obviously that would make more sense with a Joe from the ROH days, but having him be the Bloodline’s Hound that they use to dirty work so they don’t dirty their “Royal” hands but he eventually turns on them would be cool imo. The Sami Zayn stuff was fine, but felt like a retread of a Mick Foley Attitude era storyline[close]
Interesting take. Can’t say I’m a fan of Samoa Joe or see him leaving AEW.[close]
Oh no not all, but I remember when he was first brought up to the main roster, he had such an awesome air of menace and felt like he could have beat Roman or Brock at the time, if booking and injuries didn’t get in the way
Dynamite was not too good. I did like Cassidy match & he’s growing on me. Otherwise I just couldn’t get into it. Even MJF seemed over it. Mic skills were looooow……
Dynamite was not too good. I did like Cassidy match & he’s growing on me. Otherwise I just couldn’t get into it. Even MJF seemed over it. Mic skills were looooow……
I'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.
Did just watch Cole vs Gargano in NXT & I have developed some respect for Cole. But AEW Cole…..
Also, @Atiba Applebum even if MJF is writing them, it’s not good.
Expand QuoteI'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.[close]
That’s so awesome! I was really hoping to see some wrestling in international settings before the thing I was working on got the plug pulled on it the week before I was supposed to go to WM. At least I got to go to a few tv taping and a PPV event.
Isn’t Connors shaping up to be the next big thing or is that a different LA dojo guy?
PS dark side of the ring starts this week and apparently a Pal who doesn’t post much produced the Candido ep. I’ve told them to post in here, but I think they’re more in lurk mode these days as many graduate to doing
Expand QuoteDid just watch Cole vs Gargano in NXT & I have developed some respect for Cole. But AEW Cole…..
Also, @Atiba Applebum even if MJF is writing them, it’s not good.[close]
Hah it’s valid to not like it - I just meant MJF probably isn’t checked out since it’s his doing
Does anyone watch the Fed regularly? Curious why LA Knight is such hot shit all of a sudden. Don’t remember him moving the needle much in NXT
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid just watch Cole vs Gargano in NXT & I have developed some respect for Cole. But AEW Cole…..
Also, @Atiba Applebum even if MJF is writing them, it’s not good.[close]
Hah it’s valid to not like it - I just meant MJF probably isn’t checked out since it’s his doing
Does anyone watch the Fed regularly? Curious why LA Knight is such hot shit all of a sudden. Don’t remember him moving the needle much in NXT[close]
I do. He’s been getting a push from the fans. He’s solid on the microphone & is solid in the ring. His finisher Blunt Force Trauma is a better stunner too. Ever since he left Maximum Male Models, people love it. Honestly, he can be a big guy with his “smart ass” attitude & look. Dare I say he has potential to be on Stone Cold’s level? He honestly reminds of Steve Austin breaking in the “Stone Cold” persona.
I'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.
NXT Battleground for the win. Great showing thus far.I winced hard at that, could have been so bad. Are you watching the Main Event? Bron saved Melo from breaking his neck on a suicide dive
Dragunov VS Dijak was one hell of a match. Back & forth beatings & really playing into Dragunov’s lust for brutality. Never saw Dijak perform in ring & enjoyed. His character is a perfect mix between Big Boss Man & Steve Blackman. Dragunov with the perfect win. Also, Dragon Lee took a wild spill on a botched hurricarana attempt on the ring apron.
I enjoyed him on NXT, and as has been said, once he left MMM and went back to the LA Knight gimmick, he has been killing it every week. One of the best in WWE on the mic in a long time, in my opinion. Has the crowd in the palm of his hands most of the timeExpand QuoteDid just watch Cole vs Gargano in NXT & I have developed some respect for Cole. But AEW Cole…..
Also, @Atiba Applebum even if MJF is writing them, it’s not good.[close]
Hah it’s valid to not like it - I just meant MJF probably isn’t checked out since it’s his doing
Does anyone watch the Fed regularly? Curious why LA Knight is such hot shit all of a sudden. Don’t remember him moving the needle much in NXT
I winced hard at that, could have been so bad. Are you watching the Main Event? Bron saved Melo from breaking his neck on a suicide diveExpand QuoteNXT Battleground for the win. Great showing thus far.
Dragunov VS Dijak was one hell of a match. Back & forth beatings & really playing into Dragunov’s lust for brutality. Never saw Dijak perform in ring & enjoyed. His character is a perfect mix between Big Boss Man & Steve Blackman. Dragunov with the perfect win. Also, Dragon Lee took a wild spill on a botched hurricarana attempt on the ring apron.[close]
Darby on Dressen Rose's or was it one of those Powell Peraltas with the aboriginal art style?
Great 4 way match, I popped huge for the mentors finisher spot, and the ending was well done too
I don’t know if it was the placement of the announce table or what but the commentary definitely took a dive on Double or Nothing. I’m still an AEW mark and enjoyed the PPV overall but I do think a lot of it is I’m rooting for them more than blown away by them. Sometimes it’s ok to see the cracks in things but it feels more and more like late WCW bloat and chaos.
Also just wanted to echo the sentiment that LA Knight looks like an 80s wrestler and talks like an Attitude Era wrestler. Love that dude. Glad the Max Dupri bit got the axe.
Expand QuoteI don’t know if it was the placement of the announce table or what but the commentary definitely took a dive on Double or Nothing. I’m still an AEW mark and enjoyed the PPV overall but I do think a lot of it is I’m rooting for them more than blown away by them. Sometimes it’s ok to see the cracks in things but it feels more and more like late WCW bloat and chaos.
Also just wanted to echo the sentiment that LA Knight looks like an 80s wrestler and talks like an Attitude Era wrestler. Love that dude. Glad the Max Dupri bit got the axe.[close]
Spot on, especially with the WCW chaos. It's sort of sad as the chaos came really quick for AEW as opposed to WCW....
YEAH!
Expand QuoteI'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.[close]
That’s so awesome! I was really hoping to see some wrestling in international settings before the thing I was working on got the plug pulled on it the week before I was supposed to go to WM. At least I got to go to a few tv taping and a PPV event.
Isn’t Connors shaping up to be the next big thing or is that a different LA dojo guy?
PS dark side of the ring starts this week and apparently a Pal who doesn’t post much produced the Candido ep. I’ve told them to post in here, but I think they’re more in lurk mode these days as many graduate to doing
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.[close]
That’s so awesome! I was really hoping to see some wrestling in international settings before the thing I was working on got the plug pulled on it the week before I was supposed to go to WM. At least I got to go to a few tv taping and a PPV event.
Isn’t Connors shaping up to be the next big thing or is that a different LA dojo guy?
PS dark side of the ring starts this week and apparently a Pal who doesn’t post much produced the Candido ep. I’ve told them to post in here, but I think they’re more in lurk mode these days as many graduate to doing[close]
Connors is their desperate attempt to make the next Kenny/Jay White (I think they even put him in bullet club) but he's been distinctly average every time I've watched him and he just looks weird to me. Part of it is the male stripper look but he also has one of those faces that I think will hold him back from ever being a star. Paul Roma and Mike Rotunda are other famous sufferers of jobber-face.
Granted maybe he's gotten much better in the last few months but I have yet to see anything hype worthy from that dude.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm working in Tokyo this week and I'm going to New Japan Best of Super Juniors tonight and Sunday. I'm so fucking stoked. to see Okada and Ishii.[close]
That’s so awesome! I was really hoping to see some wrestling in international settings before the thing I was working on got the plug pulled on it the week before I was supposed to go to WM. At least I got to go to a few tv taping and a PPV event.
Isn’t Connors shaping up to be the next big thing or is that a different LA dojo guy?
PS dark side of the ring starts this week and apparently a Pal who doesn’t post much produced the Candido ep. I’ve told them to post in here, but I think they’re more in lurk mode these days as many graduate to doing[close]
Connors is their desperate attempt to make the next Kenny/Jay White (I think they even put him in bullet club) but he's been distinctly average every time I've watched him and he just looks weird to me. Part of it is the male stripper look but he also has one of those faces that I think will hold him back from ever being a star. Paul Roma and Mike Rotunda are other famous sufferers of jobber-face.
Granted maybe he's gotten much better in the last few months but I have yet to see anything hype worthy from that dude.[close]
Yeah he is in Bullet Club but what does that even mean anymore? They lost in the opening match and Fujita was the best looking dude in that one.
Anyone have good suggestions for jobbers going into business for themselves. I’m talking like Danny Puder or that Blackwell guy who refused to job to Sid Vicious and Dan Spivey. Appreciated!
Expand QuoteAnyone have good suggestions for jobbers going into business for themselves. I’m talking like Danny Puder or that Blackwell guy who refused to job to Sid Vicious and Dan Spivey. Appreciated![close]
Inoki and the Great Antonio is one of the most famous and brutal ones. I feel kinda weird watching it now because I looked up some stuff on Great Antonio and I guess he had a super traumatic childhood (he wouldn't talk about it but he was like a child refugee from ww2) and might have been actually not all there. I don't know if he ever wrestled again after Inoki beat his ass.
There's Mike Bell and Saturn but that wasn't so much him going into business for himself as being a little sloppy and Saturn losing his shit about it. He claims he was concussed and doesn't remember it but I feel like roid rage and Saturns appetite for stimulants is a better bet for what happened there.
I feel like there's 2 or 3 more on the tip of my tongue but I can't think of them right now. I'll keep thinking about it.
Forbidden Door is a definite AMC Theatre showing ticket purchase for me.
I’m probably going to buy a ticket for the ROH ppv in Trenton.
Lol at CM Punk having to be on a completely separate show as the Elite.
Magnum TA dark side of the ring episode was decent. They're going for a slightly softer tone this season I think, but it's still a good story to know if you're a wrestling fan because it's maybe the biggest "what if" in history. Pretty sad story but Magnum seems like a pretty solid and intelligent dude and it looks like he ended up doing ok for himself after wrestling.
lol wasn't intentional really - just the nature of the stories. i also produced the doink episode and i think that'll be more of a classic DSOTR feel.Expand QuoteMagnum TA dark side of the ring episode was decent. They're going for a slightly softer tone this season I think, but it's still a good story to know if you're a wrestling fan because it's maybe the biggest "what if" in history. Pretty sad story but Magnum seems like a pretty solid and intelligent dude and it looks like he ended up doing ok for himself after wrestling.[close]
It was good & I could not agree more about the softer tone as even the Sunny & Candido one was mild. JYD & Doink ones should rule.
lol wasn't intentional really - just the nature of the stories. i also produced the doink episode and i think that'll be more of a classic DSOTR feel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMagnum TA dark side of the ring episode was decent. They're going for a slightly softer tone this season I think, but it's still a good story to know if you're a wrestling fan because it's maybe the biggest "what if" in history. Pretty sad story but Magnum seems like a pretty solid and intelligent dude and it looks like he ended up doing ok for himself after wrestling.[close]
It was good & I could not agree more about the softer tone as even the Sunny & Candido one was mild. JYD & Doink ones should rule.[close]
and you're right JYD (and the marty episode!) are going to be bangers
Expand Quotelol wasn't intentional really - just the nature of the stories. i also produced the doink episode and i think that'll be more of a classic DSOTR feel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMagnum TA dark side of the ring episode was decent. They're going for a slightly softer tone this season I think, but it's still a good story to know if you're a wrestling fan because it's maybe the biggest "what if" in history. Pretty sad story but Magnum seems like a pretty solid and intelligent dude and it looks like he ended up doing ok for himself after wrestling.[close]
It was good & I could not agree more about the softer tone as even the Sunny & Candido one was mild. JYD & Doink ones should rule.[close]
and you're right JYD (and the marty episode!) are going to be bangers[close]
Can’t wait to see more detail on Borne Again.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotelol wasn't intentional really - just the nature of the stories. i also produced the doink episode and i think that'll be more of a classic DSOTR feel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMagnum TA dark side of the ring episode was decent. They're going for a slightly softer tone this season I think, but it's still a good story to know if you're a wrestling fan because it's maybe the biggest "what if" in history. Pretty sad story but Magnum seems like a pretty solid and intelligent dude and it looks like he ended up doing ok for himself after wrestling.[close]
It was good & I could not agree more about the softer tone as even the Sunny & Candido one was mild. JYD & Doink ones should rule.[close]
and you're right JYD (and the marty episode!) are going to be bangers[close]
Can’t wait to see more detail on Borne Again.[close]
What’s Borne Again?
Fuck yes. This is way up my alley.
that's right, who still doesn't like him to this day.Expand QuoteFuck yes. This is way up my alley.[close]
Bourne was a piece of work and one of my biggest regrets is he couldn't stay out of his own way long enough for that gimmick to play out. Early Doing with the chains off....I feel like Paul E could have nurtured that into something pretty groundbreaking. He tried again in late stage Memphis but it wasn't the same and the studio rasslin crowd didn't really seem to get it. He was an ok worker when he wanted to be though, especially in his younger days but there's actually some decent Big Josh matches out there too. By the time he was doinkin around he was kind of a mess both outside and inside the ring.
But yeah I guess dude was a pretty big asshole and he used to constantly fight with someone in the back but I can't think of who it is....I wanna say it's one of those guys who most people speak highly of and it was enough heat that one of them had to leave the territory and they almost had a shoot in the ring over it. Duggan maybe? I'm like 90% sure he also had to flee one of the territories in the middle of an angle to avoid a statutory rape case back in the day but that might have been one of the Barrs or someone else from the PNW.
https://youtu.be/WwS5TiUAG9s (https://youtu.be/WwS5TiUAG9s)
This was my favorite Doink the Clown moment.
that's right, who still doesn't like him to this day.
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This was my favorite Doink the Clown moment.[close]
Two of the best unrealized gimmicks of their era. Waylon Mercy should have been his eras Jake the Snake, though I doubt Spiveys body would have held up. Those 7 footers that haven't had a midlife crisis biker gimmick usually seem to break down around that stage of their career. He was pretty amazing in that role though, I think the fact he has those crazy person eyes that would light up when he did his promos really sold it to me as a kid
I would have loved to see Spivey in the locker room when Shawn started his bullshit though. He was known for going after bullies and if I can almost guarantee that if he was in Vader's shoes for that summerslam match he would have stood up and beat him within an inch of his life right there on PPV. Spivey doesn't get mentioned a lot when people talk about guys who were legit but he was pretty un-fuckwithable. I believe he even fucked up, Adrian Adonis, who had a pretty heavy reputation as a shooter in his own right.
That rules that Spivey’s character was based on Cape Fear. Love it.
Back to AEW last night; Eddie Kingston return looking like a wasted bouncer & not connecting a single punch. Unbelievably terrible.
Expand QuoteThat rules that Spivey’s character was based on Cape Fear. Love it.
Back to AEW last night; Eddie Kingston return looking like a wasted bouncer & not connecting a single punch. Unbelievably terrible.[close]
I love the cape fear thing too, funny that that and the “mercy” are both connected to bray Wyatt now
What’s the best wrestling podcast? I’m mainly looking for good interviews with old school guys…..I checked Jim Cornettes’s and enjoyed it where he just breaks down old cards…..
What’s the best wrestling podcast? I’m mainly looking for good interviews with old school guys…..I checked Jim Cornettes’s and enjoyed it where he just breaks down old cards…..
The most visible one beyond Ed Leslie is probably Brian Knobs, he's still milking it to this day. Not sure about Blair, but at the time he was in the company I think pretty much everyone was trying to be Hulks boy for political purposes. I honestly don't know much about him personality wise, haven't really cared enough to look either haha.
Expand QuoteThe most visible one beyond Ed Leslie is probably Brian Knobs, he's still milking it to this day. Not sure about Blair, but at the time he was in the company I think pretty much everyone was trying to be Hulks boy for political purposes. I honestly don't know much about him personality wise, haven't really cared enough to look either haha.[close]
Oh right Brian Knobs. I remember that.
Also, have you ever heard of Mr Hughes? Just saw a glimpse of him this morning in a tag with Vader against Sting and someone else and he looked so fucking cool!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe most visible one beyond Ed Leslie is probably Brian Knobs, he's still milking it to this day. Not sure about Blair, but at the time he was in the company I think pretty much everyone was trying to be Hulks boy for political purposes. I honestly don't know much about him personality wise, haven't really cared enough to look either haha.[close]
Oh right Brian Knobs. I remember that.
Also, have you ever heard of Mr Hughes? Just saw a glimpse of him this morning in a tag with Vader against Sting and someone else and he looked so fucking cool![close]
Mr. Hughes was the quintessential enforcer. He’s been in every major fed.
Dude wrestled almost identically to Big Boss Man, even used the Boss Man Slam as a finisher (whenever he actually won a match).
I thought he was great as Jericho’s enforcer in WWF back in ‘99.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe most visible one beyond Ed Leslie is probably Brian Knobs, he's still milking it to this day. Not sure about Blair, but at the time he was in the company I think pretty much everyone was trying to be Hulks boy for political purposes. I honestly don't know much about him personality wise, haven't really cared enough to look either haha.[close]
Oh right Brian Knobs. I remember that.
Also, have you ever heard of Mr Hughes? Just saw a glimpse of him this morning in a tag with Vader against Sting and someone else and he looked so fucking cool![close]
Mr. Hughes was the quintessential enforcer. He’s been in every major fed.
Dude wrestled almost identically to Big Boss Man, even used the Boss Man Slam as a finisher (whenever he actually won a match).
I thought he was great as Jericho’s enforcer in WWF back in ‘99.[close]
Was he really?? I have zero memory of him with Jericho and I was a big Jericho fan then. Wow. I was just impressed his glasses stayed on in the clips I saw
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AEW Collision is actually good.
Pat coming through with the clips as usual. You rule dude.
Hughes was a football player back in the 80s and was trained by one of the midwest OGs, I think Geigel or Les Thatcher and wrestled for Vern for a little while before going to Atlanta, which is where I first saw him. Then once Vince got ahold of him they gave him the gimmick that I guess was supposed to be a hitman but as a kid I just thought he dressed like a blues brother.
Really athletic and could move for a big man, but as was mentioned he wrestled like a Bossman pallette swap. If he was around nowadays I could see him doing wardlow style step up moonsaults and Keith Lee spots, he had that kind of athleticism but the style was so different back then and his matches could get really plodding and punchy kicky with the wrong opponent. He did look cool as fuck back when he was huge but I saw him at an Indy show like 15 years ago and he was still super tall but is much skinnier now.
Best wrestling Insta page:
@hamandeggers
You won’t be disappointed.
Loved the Andrade / Buddy match, felt like a redo of his debut and the crowd was appropriately hot for him. Like the idea of him going against Malachi, but curious if building a stable around Andrade is the way they’re going so he competes for Trios. Can’t keep track of all the lucha alliances in AEW at the moment and Bandido is out injured
Best wrestling Insta page:
@hamandeggers
You won’t be disappointed.
I listened to a couple of Chris Jericho's on Stampede stuff, I liked it, not bad. I'll revisit Cornette's as well. The shit is all still pretty fascinating to me, the roll of the booker, how much everyone got paid, the deals that were made.
Expand QuoteI listened to a couple of Chris Jericho's on Stampede stuff, I liked it, not bad. I'll revisit Cornette's as well. The shit is all still pretty fascinating to me, the roll of the booker, how much everyone got paid, the deals that were made.[close]
I just saw Jim Ross released a new one called The Dark Side of Midsouth. Im gonna listen to it when I get a chance. Apparently there's stories of back when he first broke in as Watts' right hand man and old blind Leroy McGuirk was still around. I guess JR owns a pot farm and is opening a dispensary (like every other person in Oklahoma) nowadays. I don't typically love the Conrad podcasts but I really enjoyed the Bruce Pritchard Houston wrestling episode so hopefully it's similar.
Watched the end of dynamite, Eddie looks awful and I wish he would stop caring so much about not caring and drag his ass to a gym because he genuinely looks like he's at risk of a heart attack. How can you take a guy like that seriously? He looked like someone's create a wrestler in a wrestling game cutscene. The continuous run ins were a little hokey but I did like them making Ospreay look like the final boss. Hope he actually beats Kenny, that might elevate him to legit main event status.
I would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.
thanks man! appreciate you checking it out and the kind words.Expand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.
thanks man! appreciate you checking it out and the kind words.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.[close]
that bar fight lol we had to leave some details out but at one point matt was on the ground and was crawling after blair that he described 'like a crocodile'. ric flair says it's the best bar fight he's ever seen
Expand Quotethanks man! appreciate you checking it out and the kind words.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.[close]
that bar fight lol we had to leave some details out but at one point matt was on the ground and was crawling after blair that he described 'like a crocodile'. ric flair says it's the best bar fight he's ever seen[close]
That’s wild. I also had no clue he was a second generation wrestler. I do remember being a kid & the owner this wrestling store I would go to told me that “the original Doink is a drug addict” & not knowing much. Come to find out as I kept going that Doink was played by several people. I do have a Doink figure that my grandparents got me & definitely was so excited when you could be home in Wrestlemania on PS 1. Again, well done, very thorough & appreciate the work that had to go into making it cohesive @busey
Expand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.
that's a good question. i had obviously heard the rumours and looked into it but there was nothing concrete enough that would make me want to proceed with it. in this situation, his criminal record didn't have anything that indicated that the claims i heard were true. if it ended up that the rumours were 100% fact, i think it would absolutely have to be included in the episode.Expand QuoteExpand Quotethanks man! appreciate you checking it out and the kind words.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.[close]
that bar fight lol we had to leave some details out but at one point matt was on the ground and was crawling after blair that he described 'like a crocodile'. ric flair says it's the best bar fight he's ever seen[close]
That’s wild. I also had no clue he was a second generation wrestler. I do remember being a kid & the owner this wrestling store I would go to told me that “the original Doink is a drug addict” & not knowing much. Come to find out as I kept going that Doink was played by several people. I do have a Doink figure that my grandparents got me & definitely was so excited when you could be home in Wrestlemania on PS 1. Again, well done, very thorough & appreciate the work that had to go into making it cohesive @busey[close]
Were some of the sketchier stories about Borne (heard something about kidnapping a minor?) cut for time, content, or because the you had the family there?
Oh and anyone curious about the Cornette podcast stuff. Even if you don't agree with the guy's views, he is fucking hilarious and I highly recommend giving any of it a listen. His watchalongs with 90's PPV's are really good and full of obscure stories you probably haven't heard.
I like to compare him to Phil Hellmuth. No matter how you feel about the guy and his antics, there is no arguing that he has the knowledge, credibility, and the pedigree to feel however he wants about his sport and it is a very valid opinion.
Even when he shits on the stuff that I like, he does it in such a funny way and he can break down his exact reasoning and logic behind his opinions.
Expand QuoteOh and anyone curious about the Cornette podcast stuff. Even if you don't agree with the guy's views, he is fucking hilarious and I highly recommend giving any of it a listen. His watchalongs with 90's PPV's are really good and full of obscure stories you probably haven't heard.
I like to compare him to Phil Hellmuth. No matter how you feel about the guy and his antics, there is no arguing that he has the knowledge, credibility, and the pedigree to feel however he wants about his sport and it is a very valid opinion.
Even when he shits on the stuff that I like, he does it in such a funny way and he can break down his exact reasoning and logic behind his opinions.[close]
I’m not familiar with the podcast but I have read his various stances on wrestling & much like you, I’ve always known it’s coming from a place of pure knowledge, experience & clearly lives for wrestling. Plus I know he’s extremely liberal which is beyond cool.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI would’ve wanted Punk Vs Kenta, but Kojima should be good.
I hope Sting and Darby’s mystery partner isn’t Goldberg.[close]
This is immediately what I thought. Let’s just call it.
Also @busey Doink episode ruled. Had no idea about how physically aggressive he was. The story about him attacking Blair three times at the bar was wild.[close]
I think it’s KUSHIDA
Next season I want an episode about the family that won the house on the original "In Your House" PPV.no unfortunately not. but if you're ever in toronto come say hello!
Not sure if anything sketchy happened with them, but I'm sure there is a story somewhere.
We're also gonna need a Jeff Hardy episode but I have a feeling that story isn't done yet.
McMahon sexcapades will need to happen eventually.
Great job on the first few episodes. I haven't seen the Graham or Doink episodes yet but very much look forward to catching up.
Also, @busey, did we meet at a Vans Park Series event once through O'Dell? I remember having a great convo with someone from the show while season 1 was still airing.
Just an idea here. Since you guys spawned the "Dark Side" gimmick, why not do a "Dark Side of Skateboarding."
Season 1 - Antwuan Dixon
Bam
The Danny Way Incident
Hosoi
Gator
Terry Kennedy
Rob Loriface
Whichever Pappas brother ended up floating up on the beach.
They're saying the weird seizure spot was to cover up Danielson breaking his arm but I don't know, I feel like he's been milking the neck injury in a borderline poor taste way basically ever since he came back and does it so often that I feel like it was supposed to happen at some point. Always annoyed me when him and Paige do that shit and the irony is that when those kinds of injuries do actually happen they don't make me more invested in the match or feud, they make me not want to watch or think about wrestling. The match was still good although obviously the finish was pretty flat.
Woke up with a headache so if it doesn't go away after I drink my coffee I might take the day off and watch the rest of FD. If anyone comes across a gif of MJF doing the air guitar thing can you send it my way, that might have to be a new signature haha
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Man, I gotta say that probably half of my regular shirt rotation is wrestling shirts. I love Mick, but this collab is WHACK AS FUCK. It looks like they didn't even try. "Have a Palace Day???" Come the fuck on.
You know when you are a wrestling fan and any wrestling news hits and 10 different people send you the link like you haven't already seen it? Yeah, this was that link yesterday.
A coworker actually brought it up in a meeting yesterday and asked me what I thought and my response was "Its corny as fuck."
I liked the Enjoi boards.
Anybody here by chance have the old War Effort Collabs? I guarantee they were not approved by WWE, but Shepherd Fairey did the art and if i remember correctly, they did Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, and Kane.
Forbidden Door was pretty awesome I thought. It's just hard because some of the matches are just randomly thrown together for no reason so a proper build is hard.
I thought Kenny might have broke his neck. That match was great and I'm glad they had Will go over somewhat clean.
It was also pretty cool to see these dudes in a big PPV after I saw them wrestle 5 feet away from me in a smaller Japanese venue.
Man you know you're struggling when you put out a shittier wrestling collab than Enjoi (I did like most of theirs though). I thought palace was supposed to be cool. Hopefully mick gets some coin out of it but I would not be surprised to hear that Vince fucked him out of royalties somehow.
I would be selective about wrestling apparel too. As much as I love it and have met a bunch of cool people around it (including people in this thread), the last thing I want to signal to the public is that I watch wrestling. That's just inviting some really awkward interactions that I have no desire to partake in. I would maybe wear a Dalton Castle shirt though. I would 100% buy and wear an MJF pro model scarf.
Expand QuoteMan you know you're struggling when you put out a shittier wrestling collab than Enjoi (I did like most of theirs though). I thought palace was supposed to be cool. Hopefully mick gets some coin out of it but I would not be surprised to hear that Vince fucked him out of royalties somehow.
I would be selective about wrestling apparel too. As much as I love it and have met a bunch of cool people around it (including people in this thread), the last thing I want to signal to the public is that I watch wrestling. That's just inviting some really awkward interactions that I have no desire to partake in. I would maybe wear a Dalton Castle shirt though. I would 100% buy and wear an MJF pro model scarf.[close]
A scarf would be grand. You catch Dynamite last night? Sting….. could have been seriously hurt after a table botch. A constant gripe with AEW is the lack of follow up after a PPV too.
RIP DROZ
LA Knight getting robbed at MITB tonight. Definitely knew it’s going to be Priest but man, at the very end Knight had it. I just hope Triple H doesn’t bury him.
Gunther retains which is grand
Wanted to see Balor beat Rollins especially with the history between the two.
Depends what you want to watch and how much you want to keep up with it. I think if you just throw yourself in blind it's not that hard to catch up with characters and storylines, they're all pretty simplistic. I would check out WWE by watching a Raw (Mondays) and Smackdown (Fridays), and / or AEW with Dynamite (Wednesdays) and Collision (Saturdays). Personally I think AEW is better but it's subjective. You can watch the newest eps here (https://watchwrestling.ai/) ☠️. It's not essential viewing so if you're not committed to following anything along every week it's not hard to catch up to speed if you miss a load.
If you just want to take a peek and see if you enjoy it, I'd recommend watching the main event from Money In the Bank last night (Starts at 31 mins on part 3 on that site I linked above) and Omega vs Osprey from Forbidden Door (same site 10 mins on part 3)
Who are the names you know? Anything / anyone in particular you're aware of and want to follow?
BB already covered most of the specifics but if you want to see if the "style" of modern wrestling is up your alley check out Kenny Omega vs Will Ospreay from the recent Forbidden Door ppv. It's pretty much guaranteed to win match of the year. If it bores you then this might not be for you, but if you can flip off the part of your brain that says "that punch didn't really land" and just get into the performers and story they're telling its a lot of fun when it's good.
My subjective opinion is also that AEW is better, but it wouldn't be fair not mentioning that WWE is better than it's been in a long time. I personally just can't get past the fact all the money goes to a creepy old misogynist rapist.
Great insights.
Definitely appreciate all the athleticism at play, I watched Tough Enough back in the day and am intrigued by the kayfabe aspects- Pat McAfee in a neck brace on his show, days after a match was great. I really dig the commitment to the storylines. Always have just been intimidated by the depth of the sport. Excited to dive in.
Expand QuoteGreat insights.
Definitely appreciate all the athleticism at play, I watched Tough Enough back in the day and am intrigued by the kayfabe aspects- Pat McAfee in a neck brace on his show, days after a match was great. I really dig the commitment to the storylines. Always have just been intimidated by the depth of the sport. Excited to dive in.[close]
Honestly, I’d recommend Dark Side of the Ring first and foremost
Great insights.
Definitely appreciate all the athleticism at play, I watched Tough Enough back in the day and am intrigued by the kayfabe aspects- Pat McAfee in a neck brace on his show, days after a match was great. I really dig the commitment to the storylines. Always have just been intimidated by the depth of the sport. Excited to dive in.
Expand QuoteGreat insights.
Definitely appreciate all the athleticism at play, I watched Tough Enough back in the day and am intrigued by the kayfabe aspects- Pat McAfee in a neck brace on his show, days after a match was great. I really dig the commitment to the storylines. Always have just been intimidated by the depth of the sport. Excited to dive in.[close]
Do you have Peacock? The WWE channel is on there & you can watch WCW, ECW & all of the previous pay per views. I personally enjoyed jumping back into WCW (early 90’s) because that’s what I grew up on. The Ruthless Aggression era of WWE 02-08 ruled & had some truly great wrestling from Kurt Angle, Lesnar, Benoit, Jericho, Orton with Evolution, even some Goldberg. Good Undertaker matches too as you can see his American Badass phase & the transition back to the Deadman.
My take on HHH is he's a bit of a himbo and definitely an ass kisser, but I'll take that over straight up evil old VKM who would feed his children to lions and eat the leftovers himself live on PPV for the right price. He's done some really shitty things but I do wonder if some of it wasnt just Vinces awfulness latching on to everything around it. I won't give him a pass, but I would have given him a chance had it not all been bullshit and there actually been consequences for Vince fucking raping half a dozen women.
The best thing about peacock is the NWA/WCW and world class libraries. They have mid south too I think, but that might be a little too wrasslin for a younger or newer fan. It's a lot more punch kick and psychology based, the "high spots" are like vertical suplexes and body slams. It's cool to see the actual dudes from all the crazy stories though and I love the "you better make it look like it's real or by god it's going to be" kayfabe mentality. I won't say it looks like an actual fight,but it looks a lot more like one.
My biggest bummer abotut Vince is that everyone knew why he retired, the allegations were damning and disgusting, but when he reared his head again all anyone cared about was whether he was going to start interfering with the show again. It's like everyone had completely forgotten what had happened only a few months earlier.
Hyped that Iyo Skye won MITB. One of the most exciting additions to the main roster in the last year.
Funny that people are trying to tear LA Knight down for 'copying' The Rock/Stone Cold - as if no previous wrestler ever has drawn influence from others. I'm a big mark, whatever, but I think he's killing it and I love the pops he gets.
I have the newest book about Vince on my list to read. Any of y'all listen to his Behind The Bastards series? A six-parter. There's some truly horrific stuff in there, including the Ring Boy scandal, which I'd never heard of before.
Expand QuoteHyped that Iyo Skye won MITB. One of the most exciting additions to the main roster in the last year.
Funny that people are trying to tear LA Knight down for 'copying' The Rock/Stone Cold - as if no previous wrestler ever has drawn influence from others. I'm a big mark, whatever, but I think he's killing it and I love the pops he gets.
I have the newest book about Vince on my list to read. Any of y'all listen to his Behind The Bastards series? A six-parter. There's some truly horrific stuff in there, including the Ring Boy scandal, which I'd never heard of before.[close]
It’s even weirder that Pat Patterson still seemed to be held in high regard after that scandal and to his death as he was one of the perpetrators.
The VKM book tells a diff story about PP sexually harassing someone by ribbing a new wrestler by making them think he was going to have to blow him at the end of the car trip…but the person who is telling the story is Hogan and I don’t know if the author is savvy enough to know how suspect anything Hulk says is (though that seems a very different avenue than Hogan’s usual fabrications bc it’s told with shame at how scared he was about the whole thing)
Expand QuoteThe VKM book tells a diff story about PP sexually harassing someone by ribbing a new wrestler by making them think he was going to have to blow him at the end of the car trip…but the person who is telling the story is Hogan and I don’t know if the author is savvy enough to know how suspect anything Hulk says is (though that seems a very different avenue than Hogan’s usual fabrications bc it’s told with shame at how scared he was about the whole thing)[close]
Oh there's definitely plenty of stories about Pat doing that kind of thing, just not to kids. From what I understand he really just kind of got lumped in with them in the ring boy thing because of the fact that he was gay and friends with Garvin. The fact he was fired at the same time as Garvin and ole Toehole Phillips doesn't do him any favors looking back at it now but when I researched it years ago I remember coming away with the sense that they had a mini purple panic and just canned everyone who wasn't straight.
There's still accusations that get thrown around about who actually followed through on it and got a push as a result, a lot of people suspect Piper was one because of his push and an interview he gave a few years before he died, but iirc he kind of tip toed around the subject. I've also heard the inverse, like the reason Barry O was the only Orton to never get a push is because he refused Garvin, who used his relationship with Pat to blackball him and make him a jobber.
So I guess I don't think Pat is squeaky clean, but I do think theres some wrestling fan biases that seeped into the way people talked about it...like if he were straight people would have just called it politicking or something but because he was approaching other dudes he was now some kind of dangerous predator.
Hyped that Iyo Skye won MITB. One of the most exciting additions to the main roster in the last year.
Funny that people are trying to tear LA Knight down for 'copying' The Rock/Stone Cold - as if no previous wrestler ever has drawn influence from others. I'm a big mark, whatever, but I think he's killing it and I love the pops he gets.
I have the newest book about Vince on my list to read. Any of y'all listen to his Behind The Bastards series? A six-parter. There's some truly horrific stuff in there, including the Ring Boy scandal, which I'd never heard of before.
Should also note it's worth watching the Donahue episode where they talk about the scandal for a few reasons. One is that it's just nostalgic to see an old school studio audience talk show before they devolved into a poor imitation of attitude era wrestling. Another is it's fun to watch Vince squirm and try to wriggle his way out of it all. It is also interesting to see how normalized homophobia was at the time, it should give younger folks some insight into why "boomers" seem so dense when it comes to things like treating people different from you like humans.
https://youtu.be/cPTCRnBEUJM
I have the newest book about Vince on my list to read. Any of y'all listen to his Behind The Bastards series? A six-parter. There's some truly horrific stuff in there, including the Ring Boy scandal, which I'd never heard of before.
I have a video where I asked him to say hi to
My brother, he said
“What’s his name?”
And before I could finish my brothers name, he than said
“Who gives a shit.”
I was hyped on that. It was an honor to be treated like shit by him.
Expand QuoteI have a video where I asked him to say hi to
My brother, he said
“What’s his name?”
And before I could finish my brothers name, he than said
“Who gives a shit.”
I was hyped on that. It was an honor to be treated like shit by him.[close]
I love this. Favorite wrestler and it's not even close...the kid just does not break character. There's plenty of videos of him roasting people in wheelchairs and making kids cry, and im so here for it.
Christian Cage and Don Callis are both pretty fantastic at playing the bad guy too, but MJF takes it to a different level. There's like maybe one piece of footage out there from when he was on the indies where he's slightly out of character, otherwise it's all exactly like you described.
Judging by his hairline in that pic I'm gonna guess we see him in a hair vs hair match not too far down the line.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have a video where I asked him to say hi to
My brother, he said
“What’s his name?”
And before I could finish my brothers name, he than said
“Who gives a shit.”
I was hyped on that. It was an honor to be treated like shit by him.[close]
I love this. Favorite wrestler and it's not even close...the kid just does not break character. There's plenty of videos of him roasting people in wheelchairs and making kids cry, and im so here for it.
Christian Cage and Don Callis are both pretty fantastic at playing the bad guy too, but MJF takes it to a different level. There's like maybe one piece of footage out there from when he was on the indies where he's slightly out of character, otherwise it's all exactly like you described.
Judging by his hairline in that pic I'm gonna guess we see him in a hair vs hair match not too far down the line.[close]
Hah I didn’t want to say it about the hair bc I can relate
Yeah def his hair was giving me gene wilder/ max Palmer vibes. Shouts out my receding kings. It’s why I love Cyrus and max. I think smoking weed at an early age attributes to hair loss.Expand QuoteI have a video where I asked him to say hi to
My brother, he said
“What’s his name?”
And before I could finish my brothers name, he than said
“Who gives a shit.”
I was hyped on that. It was an honor to be treated like shit by him.[close]
I love this. Favorite wrestler and it's not even close...the kid just does not break character. There's plenty of videos of him roasting people in wheelchairs and making kids cry, and im so here for it.
Christian Cage and Don Callis are both pretty fantastic at playing the bad guy too, but MJF takes it to a different level. There's like maybe one piece of footage out there from when he was on the indies where he's slightly out of character, otherwise it's all exactly like you described.
Judging by his hairline in that pic I'm gonna guess we see him in a hair vs hair match not too far down the line.
Yeah def his hair was giving me gene wilder/ max Palmer vibes. Shouts out my receding kings. It’s why I love Cyrus and max. I think smoking weed at an early age attributes to hair loss.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have a video where I asked him to say hi to
My brother, he said
“What’s his name?”
And before I could finish my brothers name, he than said
“Who gives a shit.”
I was hyped on that. It was an honor to be treated like shit by him.[close]
I love this. Favorite wrestler and it's not even close...the kid just does not break character. There's plenty of videos of him roasting people in wheelchairs and making kids cry, and im so here for it.
Christian Cage and Don Callis are both pretty fantastic at playing the bad guy too, but MJF takes it to a different level. There's like maybe one piece of footage out there from when he was on the indies where he's slightly out of character, otherwise it's all exactly like you described.
Judging by his hairline in that pic I'm gonna guess we see him in a hair vs hair match not too far down the line.[close]
Lol what’s wrong? Was your stepdad a bald dude? Let it go.
I would, but then I live in the UK so I don't really have to back up my answer (although if John Cena has anything to say about it maybe that will change). I'd imagine any half decent seat would be out of my price range but I've heard plenty of people say that even being up in the nosebleeds is worth it for the atmosphere. The spectacle of it is undeniable.
Would any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?
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Wouldn’t give a dime to wwe
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Wouldn’t give a dime to wwe[close]
Gonna be a tough one for me since Philly’s got Wrestlemania next April.
When did you decide to fully separate yourself from WWE?
I think bc of a certain NXT era brought me back into PW, I’ll always have a soft spot for Mauro and Nigel. I get what you’re saying about him, but it doesn’t bother me the way it bothers me with Wade Barrett or Corey Graves who tries a little too hard to be a heel.
I think Joe acquitted himself well in the loss and the story remains open with Punk.
Speaking of successful repackaging, the Gunns have really grown on me and don’t seem like some nitwit 2nd gen guys anymore. BG Gold is put together quite nicely Id say
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Wouldn’t give a dime to wwe[close]
Gonna be a tough one for me since Philly’s got Wrestlemania next April.
When did you decide to fully separate yourself from WWE?[close]
NXT got me back in, then started to get into the history and realized what a vile family the MacMahons are, re-evaluated how gross the Attitude era was and found main roster product pretty unwatchable/unlistenable.
AEW came along and while it isn’t perfect, it features most of the guys that got me back into PW and Khan may have flaws but seems like a decent person who treats his employees well.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Wouldn’t give a dime to wwe[close]
Gonna be a tough one for me since Philly’s got Wrestlemania next April.
When did you decide to fully separate yourself from WWE?[close]
NXT got me back in, then started to get into the history and realized what a vile family the MacMahons are, re-evaluated how gross the Attitude era was and found main roster product pretty unwatchable/unlistenable.
AEW came along and while it isn’t perfect, it features most of the guys that got me back into PW and Khan may have flaws but seems like a decent person who treats his employees well.[close]
It’ll be a tough one, going to a Wrestlemania is childhood bucket list status.
Would any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?
Would any of you pay to see MLW live?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Wouldn’t give a dime to wwe[close]
Gonna be a tough one for me since Philly’s got Wrestlemania next April.
When did you decide to fully separate yourself from WWE?[close]
NXT got me back in, then started to get into the history and realized what a vile family the MacMahons are, re-evaluated how gross the Attitude era was and found main roster product pretty unwatchable/unlistenable.
AEW came along and while it isn’t perfect, it features most of the guys that got me back into PW and Khan may have flaws but seems like a decent person who treats his employees well.[close]
It’ll be a tough one, going to a Wrestlemania is childhood bucket list status.
ROH ppv in Trenton on July 21 tix start at $20. Would any of you do it?
Expand QuoteROH ppv in Trenton on July 21 tix start at $20. Would any of you do it?[close]
Hypothetically, yes, in reality I would if I had friends who were into this stuff, but I wouldn’t go solo again.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteROH ppv in Trenton on July 21 tix start at $20. Would any of you do it?[close]
Hypothetically, yes, in reality I would if I had friends who were into this stuff, but I wouldn’t go solo again.[close]
In Trenton, no less. Lol.
I went to the first AEW Grand Slam solo.
Finally watched some of collision.
Not sure how I feel about the commentary team. I really like Kevin Kelly when he does NJPW but he doesn't seem as into it on AEW or something, it didn't have the same zing. Not a huge fan of Nigel to begin with and his shouty breathless delivery doesn't really fit for me either. It's a little too melodramatic and WWE-ish for me and just clashes with KK's serious, polite, calm delivery.
Loved Miro slipping in a line about his double jointed hot wife. His character is pretty great, an insane zealot with just a pinch of goof and weirdness. He can go from funny to scary and back in an instant. I was super into the redeemer and the neck of sand stuff so it's cool to see him doing something again.
Athena is painful on the mic but I dig her in the ring. As long as my mute button works I'll watch her and Willow knock lumps out of each other all day. I would give Athena a mouthpiece and make her into like ECW taz or Matanza from LU...just this silent sawed off badass that's brutal in the ring. Give her a new look and 3 months of squashes and you've got a main eventer.
Julia Hart still kinda sucks in the ring but her character work is awesome. One of the best repackages I've seen in a long time.
Malakai's mask promo was pretty awesome. He's definitely at his best in pre-tapes. Andrade using about 40 words in his promo but saying them slow enough to fill 3 minutes was unintentionally hilarious for me.
Juice Robinson is fuckin great. I don't know if that dude could have been anything except a pro wrestler. Somehow I'm still sick of FTR... Dax's pancake ass and HGH gut is gross to look at and he's an insufferable whiny bitch in real life. I'm a sling blade fan but this match kinda dragged ass and you've seen it all 3 times before if you've watched any NJPW tag in the last few years, plus it was too obvious who was going to win from the story. Dunno if it's just the new TV but Cash looks like he might have beefed up a little though, I don't remember him being that thick.
If you wanted to make sure I turned it off and did something else before the main event then having an Action Andretti-Scorpio Sky match was a good idea because that's exactly what happened. I just can't stomach Scorpio. .hes the blandest most off the shelf wrestler I've ever seen and has no charisma at all. Andretti is fine when he has a master like Jericho to play off but he's way too green and indy to make this one work.
I'll watch Joe and Punk later just because of the history but I kinda hate that they're gonna job Joe out since I think he's better than Punk in every way except causing controversy at this point in their careers. Really the only thing I'm pumped for about having Punk back is that him and Max might get to finish the excellent story they were building prior to brawl out.
ROH ppv in Trenton on July 21 tix start at $20. Would any of you do it?
Juice could be cartoon character/voice for an updated Taz Tasmanian Devil. FTR is terrible. It’s honestly comical they’re actually saying aloud they’re the best tag team ever.
PAC’s back for Blood and Guts (makes sense character wise if he is now in BCC) and
GOLDEN ELITE is official if you know what that means
How have you been feeling about the MJF Cole tag team? MJF is almost selling a little too hard on his things and it comes off insincere in a way that might be unintentional, but it’s a nice change
Also, re: LA Knight. Is the guy who everyone gets in a tizzy about if you say he’s biting the Rock really have a thing called the Yeah Movement? That hopefully is very self-aware/tongue in cheek
Very excited for Kota Ibushi. Been wanting to see more of him since the Cruiserweight Classic WWE put on awhile back. WWE wanted him to win that tournament but they wanted him to sign with WWE. When he wouldn't sign, they changed the winner to TJ Perkins.
Always liked PAC. He had some bangers in the fed when he was there.
Expand QuoteVery excited for Kota Ibushi. Been wanting to see more of him since the Cruiserweight Classic WWE put on awhile back. WWE wanted him to win that tournament but they wanted him to sign with WWE. When he wouldn't sign, they changed the winner to TJ Perkins.
Always liked PAC. He had some bangers in the fed when he was there.[close]
Every wrestling fan needs to watch Kota Ibushi vs Cedric Alexander from the Cruiserweight Classic at least once a year.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteVery excited for Kota Ibushi. Been wanting to see more of him since the Cruiserweight Classic WWE put on awhile back. WWE wanted him to win that tournament but they wanted him to sign with WWE. When he wouldn't sign, they changed the winner to TJ Perkins.
Always liked PAC. He had some bangers in the fed when he was there.[close]
Every wrestling fan needs to watch Kota Ibushi vs Cedric Alexander from the Cruiserweight Classic at least once a year.[close]
Also the supereyepatchwolf golden lovers video if you aren't aware of the history between him and Kenny.
https://youtu.be/BQCPj-bGYro
Whole video is solid but the last 10 minutes will get you up to speed on why this is a big deal for Kenny.
Can't wait to hear Cornette and the other old southerner curmudgeons whining about this Coder Abewshy guy
Expand QuoteROH ppv in Trenton on July 21 tix start at $20. Would any of you do it?[close]
I would. I did solo dynamite and it was a little awkward at first but once I sussed out who to avoid talking to in my section I had fun. I've been to Indy shows where you'd swear they were handing out extra chromosomes at the door but the AEW audience is much more tolerable from a social (and olfactory) standpoint. I guess an ROH ppv crowd could be a little bit smarky but I don't think you're gonna be sitting next to a dude screaming "puppies!" at every female performer or anything like that. Worst case scenario I'd buy an extra ticket and drag a friend along, even if they aren't fans I feel like that's not a huge deal when you're live and the style is so fast and spot heavy.Expand Quote
Juice could be cartoon character/voice for an updated Taz Tasmanian Devil. FTR is terrible. It’s honestly comical they’re actually saying aloud they’re the best tag team ever.[close]
I thought they were decent when they were kinda just apeing Arn and Tully but they bought their own hype and didn't seem to realize that it was the gimmick people were into just as much or more than them as performers. And now the gimmick is 5+ years old without any real evolution and they seem to be slowing down in the ring a bit, so whats left if that goes? Yet another "I luvvvv mah family and I work hard and I have children and did I mention I have a family and I wrestle for them so if you don't cheer for me you hate children" promo?
I think they'd be better off back in the old days not because of their style, but because the lack of social media and podcasts would maybe have kept them from getting overexposed and revealing how unlikeable Dax is as a person.Expand QuotePAC’s back for Blood and Guts (makes sense character wise if he is now in BCC) and
GOLDEN ELITE is official if you know what that means[close]
How are you gonna show me NJPW footage of Lance Archer being one of the best big men in the world and then book him against fuckin Trent?
A nearby record store just posted copies of Be A Man on vinyl. Would you do it?
Looked at spoilers and it’s a gateway for a Lance Archer/Orange Cassidy match at Battle of the Belts
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Looked at spoilers and it’s a gateway for a Lance Archer/Orange Cassidy match at Battle of the Belts[close]
I'd be super happy about that if I thought there was any chance Archer was winning it. Every time guys like him and Bill wrestle it reminds me how sorely lacking in size AEW is. I don't think it should be the 90s or anything, but I would be down for a real unbeatable monster run. Aside from Moxley has any AEW champ ever been over 225-230? Maybe Jericho in his fat stage, which has unfortunately been immortalized in fight forever.
I heard they finally banned a bunch of shit after all the drama about the TD91. Thank god, maybe now that the agents have to approve spots we can get a little more focus on storytelling and I can finally shake my fear that I'm going to see someone snap their neck on dynamite. Totally cool with the tiger driver because it was a signature dream match on one of their biggest cards of the year, I just don't need to see action andretti and Aaron solo busting that shit out in a dark match to try and get noticed.....Unless they're doing it to Sammy, then I'm down.
I came to the conclusion the reason this Cole thing works so well is that he's not trying to be a badass or tough guy in this one. A smarmy, insincere nerdy douche forming a sincere relationship (at least on the surface) with the devil himself is the kind of thing that just works in the wrestling context. Kinda get some festival of friendship vibes from it, and that's high praise from me. Should be fun to see how it plays out.
Atiba I know you're usually in the loop on these things, if you see or hear about a sale on the game holla atcha boi. I'm probably going to gift it to some of my homies because they all say it looks fun but balk at paying $70+ for something they're probably only gonna play in social settings or with me. My old no mercy/wm2k tag partner told me he just picked it up though, so we're going to play when he gets a chance. Unfortunately this game somehow has a worse CAW mode than the 25 year old n64 games so we can't quite recreate Demon Semen in all it's glory.
Would any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?
Expand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Summerslam is a 10 minute bike ride from my house and I don’t think I’m doing it. I feel shitty enough paying for Peacock every month. I don’t think I can bring myself to give $75 to WWE for a bad seat.
I still run the N64 setup with World Tour, Revenge, and No Mercy.
Still maining Raven and Saturn after all these years.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWould any of you actually pay to be at Wrestlemania?[close]
Summerslam is a 10 minute bike ride from my house and I don’t think I’m doing it. I feel shitty enough paying for Peacock every month. I don’t think I can bring myself to give $75 to WWE for a bad seat.[close]
https://youtu.be/1lAaKIusePEExpand Quote
I still run the N64 setup with World Tour, Revenge, and No Mercy.
Still maining Raven and Saturn after all these years.[close]
One of the first things I do when I set up a computer is download project 64 and roms of all the thq games, but I haven't played on original hardware in ages.
For world tour I use the Hayabusa clone and for Revenge I usually use Hayabusa, La Parka, Jericho, or the Kobashi clone thats dressed up in BDSM gear. Wm2k and No Mercy I usually run Jericho or Angle. Sometimes taz. I used to use Benoit back in the day but stopped for obvious reasons. I'm always torn between the high flyers with the tope and springboard moves and the guys like Kobashi who have a moveset that seems to give you an advantage.
So far in FF my favorite for actually winning is Wardlow, but the most fun matches I've had so far I've been playing Fenix or Andrade so I think my next RTE is gonna either be with Andrade or Lance Archer.
Wow you guys unlocked some memories there. I think I logged more hours on Revenge, but it’s wild to look at those fake wrestlers and who they represented now that I have some knowledge. Funny they used Kim Chee as a name even though that was already used for Kamala’s manager (and Brooklyn Brawler) in a masked gimmick I never quite understood.
Expand QuoteWow you guys unlocked some memories there. I think I logged more hours on Revenge, but it’s wild to look at those fake wrestlers and who they represented now that I have some knowledge. Funny they used Kim Chee as a name even though that was already used for Kamala’s manager (and Brooklyn Brawler) in a masked gimmick I never quite understood.[close]
Can't forget his brother Ming Chee. Or Hanzo Mon, Dr. Frank, and Maya inca boy. Brickowski and his shitty trailer park facial hair can get fucked though. I can't remember the guy with the crop top's name but I can sure as shit picture him haha.
Anyways Kim Chee actually predates brawler and the fed, although the masked safari outfit character was originally called Friday and was played by a few different people one of which was....let's get real "wrestling is a small world" here.... Buddy Wayne.
If I remember right the story was Skandar Akbar brought Kamala in for his stable (Devastation incorporated ) but since he was from the jungle he needed a handler from deepest darkest Africa who understood his savage ways and could somewhat control him. The lore is all loosely based on an (arguably racist) fantasy art piece that Lawlers nerdy ass liked back in the day. I want to say he had it airbrushed on the side of his van, but I might be misremembering and wanting to believe that because it's so hilariously on point for him.
Kamala was managed by JJ Dillon in Memphis too, which is definitely worth checking out if you ever get bored. What survived on video is mostly studio squash matches but those are always fun and there's clips of some huge crowds with Lawler. His stuff in the UK has charm too but it's a very different style. Really good big man overall though, charismatic in his own way. I sometimes wonder if this is how i'll remember Luchasaurus in 20 years haha.
Speaking of all this politically incorrect old wrestling, I popped on some Kevin Sullivan compilation earlier and it was almost hilarious how offensive it would be considered today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e64m7VC92fE
Highlights include a very, very thinly veiled racist promo towards Tyree Pride around the 34 minute mark, and multiple instances of him slapping women around and bragging about it. Kinda tough to watch knowing how things all played out behind the scenes but also worth watching just to understand why people called the gimmick groundbreaking.
Interesting the next two eps of Dark Side are bash at the beach 2000 and bam Bam bigelow. Didn’t realize he had a tragic outcome. Finale is Janetty which will be interesting
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He rescued some people from a burning building and ended up dying in a motorcycle accident.
Interesting the next two eps of Dark Side are bash at the beach 2000 and bam Bam bigelow. Didn’t realize he had a tragic outcome. Finale is Janetty which will be interesting
Yeah the Abby one didn't really change much of my opinion. Him being old and decrepit doesn't magically excuse being an elementary school dropout willing to do absolutely anything for even the slightest amount of money no matter who it hurt and lying so much he can never keep his stories straight. I don't believe 90% of what he says and I don't think anyone else should because the end game is always the same - he wants money. He's just a fat sloppy carny who stole the sheiks gimmick and deserves everything he got. The fact he wouldn't even comment on the hep c stuff speaks volumes about him. We're supposed to believe you managed to navigate 40 years of contracts with every major organization and have owned a fucking restaurant for decades but didn't know you were being sued because you can't read? Bullshit. He was scared to show up to court because he knew he was guilty and now he's trying to garner sympathy to keep the last bit of money he has and the worst part is seeing that his caregiver buys into it. Look at all the boys' reaction when asked and you can tell it's a lie.
Hannibal is also a gigantic piece of shit who shoot stabbed a ref in the ring at an Indy show last year so he gets zero sympathy from me as well. They're cut from the same cloth so it's only fitting they have the same blood running through them now.
Edit - Tony Atlas is also full of shit. First goes on and on about how Abby had razors on his fingers and used to cut you and stab you without your permission all the time, then says it's Hannibals fault because he let Abby cut him? I guess I shouldn't put too much stock in what city park dwelling resident foot fetishist saba simba says but that just rubbed me the wrong way. This is a situation where despite both being massive turds, one is clearly wrong.
I feel like I need to take a shower after watching that episode. Good work Busey.
Adonis episode was good. His LJN figure was actually one of my first two wrestling action figures (because who only buys one figure for their first wrestler).
I never knew him and Spivey buried the hatchet.
I’m conflicted about watching Abdullah. I have a feeling that that episode will make skin crawl. Also don’t want to watch hepatitis stories on my leisure time.
AEW dance off last night was entertaining. Big lol at Sammy being called the Spanish god and having absolutely no rhythm.
Still deciding if I should go to the ROH ppv tomorrow night. Between that, the Quasi premiere on Saturday, and Dinosaur Jr on Sunday, I may end up exhausted by Monday morning.
Pretty good card. Funny that they had to add Joe last minute bc he no longer needs to take time off to promote Twisted Metal bc of the actors strike
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Why Grayson vs Uno though?
AEW dance off last night was entertaining.
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Daniel Garcia aggressively dancing out of the turnbuckle at the ref made me laugh very hard.
Expand QuoteAEW dance off last night was entertaining.[close]
Daniel Garcia aggressively dancing out of the turnbuckle at the ref made me laugh very hard.
Expand QuoteAEW dance off last night was entertaining.[close]
Daniel Garcia aggressively dancing out of the turnbuckle at the ref made me laugh very hard.
All time favorite wrestler?
Expand QuoteAll time favorite wrestler?[close]
This will probably change if you get me rambling long enough to remember older ones but off the top of the dome these are the dudes who've probably influenced my tastes the most
- Dustin
- ECW RVD
- Taker
- WCW Jericho
- Muta
- Liger
- I think I'm actually ready to put MJF here. I can't recall ever having more fun with wrestling than I've had watching this kid. Everything he touches is just gold.
Modern faves
- Dalton Castle
- Swerve
- Ospreay and to a lesser extent Kenny
- Rhea
- Willow
- Penta & Fenix
Definitely forgetting a few
Expand QuoteAll time favorite wrestler?[close]
This will probably change if you get me rambling long enough to remember older ones but off the top of the dome these are the dudes who've probably influenced my tastes the most
- Dustin
- ECW RVD
- Taker
- WCW Jericho
- Muta
- Liger
- I think I'm actually ready to put MJF here. I can't recall ever having more fun with wrestling than I've had watching this kid. Everything he touches is just gold.
Modern faves
- Dalton Castle
- Swerve
- Ospreay and to a lesser extent Kenny
- Rhea
- Willow
- Penta & Fenix
Definitely forgetting a few
@busey Bam Bam Bigelow Episode ruled. Loved that DDP was in a bunch of it. Only remark is that I wish there was tad more digging into why Bam Bam was jumping around from WWf/E to WCW back to WWF then ECW. I know Andre put him in his place but it felt that it was just dropped. Honestly though I really liked that episode & commend you mates on it. Well done on having solid interviews from his family & just the archival footage.thanks man! yeah, time limits for episodes always leave up for debate what to keep and what unfortunately gets cut. would love a special or something where we get to include all the incredible stuff that didn't end up making it in.
thanks man! yeah, time limits for episodes always leave up for debate what to keep and what unfortunately gets cut. would love a special or something where we get to include all the incredible stuff that didn't end up making it in.Expand Quote@busey Bam Bam Bigelow Episode ruled. Loved that DDP was in a bunch of it. Only remark is that I wish there was tad more digging into why Bam Bam was jumping around from WWf/E to WCW back to WWF then ECW. I know Andre put him in his place but it felt that it was just dropped. Honestly though I really liked that episode & commend you mates on it. Well done on having solid interviews from his family & just the archival footage.[close]
ROH World Six-Man Championship: Brian Cage, Bishop Kaun, & Toa Liona (c) vs. Master Wato, Ryusuke Taguchi, & Leon Ruffin
A Haku episode is what’s best for business. 😂
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I’d love that but I think that’s more for the Territories show. He bit a guys nose off who wouldn’t stop fucking with him in a bar and then got sued. I think that’s the darkest his life got
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I’d love that but I think that’s more for the Territories show. He bit a guys nose off who wouldn’t stop fucking with him in a bar and then got sued. I think that’s the darkest his life got[close]
You think Hardbody Harrison would be too dark?
Also really disappointed in the lack of Shawn Michaels love on here.
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ROH World Six-Man Championship: Brian Cage, Bishop Kaun, & Toa Liona (c) vs. Master Wato, Ryusuke Taguchi, & Leon Ruffin[close]
Dude Master Wato is real sick he was one of the best performers I saw when I went to the New Japan show in Tokyo a few months ago.
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ROH World Six-Man Championship: Brian Cage, Bishop Kaun, & Toa Liona (c) vs. Master Wato, Ryusuke Taguchi, & Leon Ruffin[close]
Dude Master Wato is real sick he was one of the best performers I saw when I went to the New Japan show in Tokyo a few months ago.[close]
Wato, Taichi, and Yoshi Hashi (despite his default facial expression of baffled) have all really impressed me over the last few NJPW shows I've watched.
Watched a little bit of rampage... they had a (what else?) battle royale with both big Bill and Satnam in the ring at the same time which was hilarious to see given how many Indy midgets they have on the roster.
Guess Komander's push is over, won't be shocked if he's back in AAA full time in a few months. He's wrestling Kip Saballerrina on rampage (which is quite the albatross to begin with) and now he's been saddled with the painfully awkward Alex Abrahantes. Hes probably a nice guy but I get the worst Martin Prince "spring forth, burly protector!" energy from that dude any time he's on screen.
Saw a clip of Dom Mysterio being asked if he would ever reconcile with his dad and he said it wasn't possible because Eddie's dead. I'm sure someone fed that line to him but I'll be damned if I didn't mark out a little. I know you hate him Atiba but as a heel there's something to that kid.
Also realized that in my faves list I forgot Jamie Hayter, who is my favorite female maybe ever. Really sad to hear she won't be ready for Wembley, I hope they figure out a way to get her in for a surprise run in or something because she deserves the monumental hometown pop she would surely get. I know she's not from Lahhhndon like Ospreay but she is a southerner at least.
I believe Kip Sabian was a replacement for the injured Scorpio Sky
Apparently Hayter might be out for the year
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I believe Kip Sabian was a replacement for the injured Scorpio Sky
Apparently Hayter might be out for the year[close]
My point still stands haha, I'd almost put Kip over Scorpio Sky at this point. They're both charisma vacuums but at least Kip is hateable in a grating "you're trying too hard" way...Scorpio is just turn the channel or fall asleep for me. Seems like Tony got his new Gravity figure so Komander is going back in the toy box. I'm not super impressed by rope walks unless the guy is big enough to make them sag, so neither guy does much for me. Still, I did have to laugh at him booking Gravity against Pac just so they could make a "hey don't you remember me?" joke.
Edit - just saw the collision graphic for tonight...Samoa Joe vs Gravity lol. They're also doing buddy vs Andrade in a ladder match and MJF/Cole vs FTR so I might actually watch.
@SHAQUEEFA you playing Fight Forever? We gotta get some matches together if you are. I'm not "good" in the getting the pin sense but I like to set up wild spots and have good matches. I've been trying to figure out if it's possible to do shit off a ladder in the ring through a table on the outside but it's almost impossible to set up unless you have someone else to put them on the table.
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@SHAQUEEFA you playing Fight Forever? We gotta get some matches together if you are. I'm not "good" in the getting the pin sense but I like to set up wild spots and have good matches. I've been trying to figure out if it's possible to do shit off a ladder in the ring through a table on the outside but it's almost impossible to set up unless you have someone else to put them on the table.[close]
I'm not really a gamer, I bought an XBox years ago and only got Madden for it, but that shit got too crazy with the controls and wasn't fun. I basically just use the XBox as a hub for my streaming apps.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7p-3SFhhQ&pp=ygUYa2V2aW4gbmFzaCBibG9vZCBtaXNzZXMg
Here’s the full clip featuring unmasked Mysterio & Juventud Guererra. Love they are scared & can’t fathom what’ll happen when Nash gets to the ring. Also Russo throwing some heat at Nash & his past was neat.
Hah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape toMikey Whipwreck is a trainer for AEW, too
Hah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to
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Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to[close]
Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.
Rewatched the 3 way from dynamite... Penta's red gear is always awesome and that avalanche destroyer through the table was just fucked up. Couple great tack bumps too. I don't think anyone else is as hyped on him as I am but he just has that intangible cool factor and I kinda dig this garbage wrestling phase he's been in lately because he doesn't fuck around. Dude's kind of like a modern La Parka.
Im actually totally cool with Moxley doing those matches if it keeps him out of the main event. They really need a class on how to not be so obvious about blading though... like surely Jarrett could show them? When I watch the old guys I swear it's always either off camera or totally imperceptible but like every AEW match I have to watch guys reaching up and pulling something off their wrist tape then awkwardly trying to do the deed laying in the corner. Just do what Flair used to and stick your entire head under the apron.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to[close]
Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to[close]
Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.
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Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.[close]
Bret Hart mid? Let’s not forget HHH was involved in the screw job and what he did to Chyna.
Golden era of NXT was basically taking ROH’s toys and doing wwE ROH. All he had to do was book a takeover bc there wasn’t much going on in the weekly shows
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Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.[close]
Bret Hart mid? Let’s not forget HHH was involved in the screw job and what he did to Chyna.
Golden era of NXT was basically taking ROH’s toys and doing wwE ROH. All he had to do was book a takeover bc there wasn’t much going on in the weekly shows[close]
Ok, not Bret. Him and HBK buried the hatchet.
The weekly shows were really good during that era.
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Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.[close]
Bret Hart mid? Let’s not forget HHH was involved in the screw job and what he did to Chyna.
Golden era of NXT was basically taking ROH’s toys and doing wwE ROH. All he had to do was book a takeover bc there wasn’t much going on in the weekly shows[close]
Ok, not Bret. Him and HBK buried the hatchet.
The weekly shows were really good during that era.[close]
Vader was another one
I remember basically just one match with someone you care about and then like a Kona Reeves 5 minute thing. The main events were good, but can’t be too hard to book a match a week and 4 PPVs a year
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to[close]
Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.[close]
Bret Hart mid? Let’s not forget HHH was involved in the screw job and what he did to Chyna.
Golden era of NXT was basically taking ROH’s toys and doing wwE ROH. All he had to do was book a takeover bc there wasn’t much going on in the weekly shows[close]
Ok, not Bret. Him and HBK buried the hatchet.
The weekly shows were really good during that era.[close]
Vader was another one
I remember basically just one match with someone you care about and then like a Kona Reeves 5 minute thing. The main events were good, but can’t be too hard to book a match a week and 4 PPVs a year[close]
I never knew about Vader’s issues with the Kliq. He didn’t strike me as a shoot guy. I want tea with my shoots. Like Ole Anderson is an entertaining shoot interview to me.
They tried so hard to make Kona Reeves a thing.
I went to NXT Takeover Philly in 2018 and Italy full credit for starting the “Dallas Sucks” chants aimed at Ember Moon.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHah slow ECW invasion trickle. Sabu, now RVD. Wonder when Rhyno is coming and if Sandman is in any shape to[close]
Judging by the Indy appearances and stuff he was doing a few years ago it's a miracle sandman is alive, but I could still see him coming out and caning someone. Not sure if Tony would pony up for Enter Sandman though, and as much as I love him Sandman is just not that good without the whole entrance.
Im glad he paid for walk but it seemed pretty lost on the audience. I'm assuming most of the crowd is either too young or new to wrestling to have experienced un-dubbed ECW and didn't know who it was until they flashed his name on the screen. Maybe if it was Philly/NY/Baltimore where ECW has established history the pop would have been better. Not sure if I'm particularly excited to see him wrestle since he didn't look particularly lithe (still has some hops though) but I don't want to look up recent matches to see if he can still go and ruin it for myself if he can. Gonna be interesting to see what he can do with Jungle Boy because there's definitely some similarities there style wise, I bet he was an influence on him.
The MJF Cole thing is really looking like it's gonna be Cole betraying Max the more I think about it. Maybe that's why Roddy is there and freaking out...not because he's worried about Cole being betrayed, but because he's going to do what he did to him with UE to someone else. I'm thinking we end up with either a double heel turn or face MJF vs Punk, since it's pretty obvious that's going to be the next program.[close]
Rhyno to me is synonymous with the garbage years of ECW (post 1997).
I also think HHH retaking the booking for WWE is what’s best for business.
I didn’t know Riddle skate(s/d), but I’m not surprised he’s hyped on Creature.
I think Jack Perry would be more over if they have him his dad’s 90210 gimmick because his promo work is horrendous.[close]
I don’t know about HHH. He’s loads better than Vince booking wise, but does that make him good, or just not bad? He’s also a creep in his own way, but nothing illegal. I just couldn’t support any promotion that platforms Logan Paul.[close]
We can file this one under unpopular opinions, but I’m a huge Kliq fan.
HBK’s my favorite wrestler and Hall and Nash are up there for me.
I’ve noticed every wrestler I’ve seen shoot on the Kliq was always someone mid to begin with. Like Shane Douglas? Come on…his best work was in ECW and even the Triple Threat was weak. The Corre was a better stable lol.
I just think HHH is the best current booker in wrestling. Wayy better than Tony Khan playing with real life action figures.
HHH gave us NXT 2013-2018. Those were the best things WWE has had going since the Attitude Era. He introduced the world to Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens.[close]
Bret Hart mid? Let’s not forget HHH was involved in the screw job and what he did to Chyna.
Golden era of NXT was basically taking ROH’s toys and doing wwE ROH. All he had to do was book a takeover bc there wasn’t much going on in the weekly shows[close]
Ok, not Bret. Him and HBK buried the hatchet.
The weekly shows were really good during that era.[close]
Vader was another one
I remember basically just one match with someone you care about and then like a Kona Reeves 5 minute thing. The main events were good, but can’t be too hard to book a match a week and 4 PPVs a year[close]
I never knew about Vader’s issues with the Kliq. He didn’t strike me as a shoot guy. I want tea with my shoots. Like Ole Anderson is an entertaining shoot interview to me.
They tried so hard to make Kona Reeves a thing.
I went to NXT Takeover Philly in 2018 and Italy full credit for starting the “Dallas Sucks” chants aimed at Ember Moon.[close]
Don’t get me wrong, I loved that era of NXT, but booking that was very different than booking 2-5 hours a week
Expand QuoteRewatched the 3 way from dynamite... Penta's red gear is always awesome and that avalanche destroyer through the table was just fucked up. Couple great tack bumps too. I don't think anyone else is as hyped on him as I am but he just has that intangible cool factor and I kinda dig this garbage wrestling phase he's been in lately because he doesn't fuck around. Dude's kind of like a modern La Parka.
Im actually totally cool with Moxley doing those matches if it keeps him out of the main event. They really need a class on how to not be so obvious about blading though... like surely Jarrett could show them? When I watch the old guys I swear it's always either off camera or totally imperceptible but like every AEW match I have to watch guys reaching up and pulling something off their wrist tape then awkwardly trying to do the deed laying in the corner. Just do what Flair used to and stick your entire head under the apron.[close]
Agreed on a lot - especially loving penta
Summerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.
Expand QuoteSummerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.[close]
Vince stepped away bc he had major spinal surgery and more indictments
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSummerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.[close]
Vince stepped away bc he had major spinal surgery and more indictments[close]
That was actually my first thought.
Also corroborates my HHH being the best current booker in wrestling argument.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSummerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.[close]
Vince stepped away bc he had major spinal surgery and more indictments[close]
That was actually my first thought.
Also corroborates my HHH being the best current booker in wrestling argument.[close]
I know he doesn’t touch Roman stuff, but i can’t believe how over that shit is. It seems like it’s been the same fucking story beat every time. Next PPV will be Jimmy vs Jey and the Solo will turn on Bloodline
Summerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.
Expand QuoteSummerslam is PPV of the year so far.
Not a single bad match yet. Every match has been an A grade easily. Match storytelling all around was great.
Even Logan Paul’s match with Ricochet was amazing.
The women’s triple threat match is match of the night and if Dave Meltzer doesn’t give that five stars, he’s smoking wet.
The cash in afterwards was great, but kinda sad bc Bianca Belair looks to be legit hurt.
Has to be HHH behind the reins here.[close]
Gonna assume you posted this before the Rousey match haha. That is, unfortunately, where I tuned in (on a pirated stream) and I think I made it through about a minute before going to make food. Makes the fact they bumped Trish vs Becky off the card is that much worse. I did watch the Balor vs Seth match while I ate but it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be. I felt like it really needed 5 more minutes and for Balor to be on the offensive for most of it for that finish to really hit. Main event was a bit of a popcorn fart too. I know they were never going to have an Uso be the one who breaks Roman's streak but it's pretty same old shit without Sami to keep it fun.
I did watch some of collision too..Joe cut a killer promo as usual but overall they definitely seemed like they took it easy since they were up against ss. The punk vs starks thing was kinda meh for me. I hate when the match seems like an afterthought and they're just going through the motions to get to the post-match angle. I knew Steamboat was gonna take some kind of bump once I saw him wearing multiple shirts but I thought it was going to be a table bump or something, definitely wasn't expecting him to have a live action Roots scene reenactment. Brian Cage would be proud because Ricky definitely got his shit in there.
The more Stampede I watch the more convinced I become that Ed Whalen is a top 10 commentary guy. He's basically the Canadian Lance Russell.
Big night for the Paul brothers, they both won rigged fights!
Gunther is amazing.
Bloodline story stays really good.
MMA fight was awful. Bayzler and Ronda are awful.
Brock and Cody was pretty good but how many times does Cody need to do that springboard kick in one match?
But it is nice to have a few WWE things that are crushing that I look forward to seeing.
LA Knight is the most over dude in all wrestling right now, hope WWE can capitalize.
Big night for the Paul brothers, they both won rigged fights!
Gunther is amazing.
Bloodline story stays really good.
MMA fight was awful. Bayzler and Ronda are awful.
Brock and Cody was pretty good but how many times does Cody need to do that springboard kick in one match?
But it is nice to have a few WWE things that are crushing that I look forward to seeing.
LA Knight is the most over dude in all wrestling right now, hope WWE can capitalize.
Expand QuoteBig night for the Paul brothers, they both won rigged fights!
Gunther is amazing.
Bloodline story stays really good.
MMA fight was awful. Bayzler and Ronda are awful.
Brock and Cody was pretty good but how many times does Cody need to do that springboard kick in one match?
But it is nice to have a few WWE things that are crushing that I look forward to seeing.
LA Knight is the most over dude in all wrestling right now, hope WWE can capitalize.[close]
I have a feeling Knight is going to burn out eventually and do the thing where he refuses to change his gimmick and just takes it to impact and then progressively less prestigious indy shows. He can talk but I don't see anything from him that keeps me engaged and wanting to watch his matches or a character I can identify with and get invested in. Basically mr. Kennnedy all over again.
Whats the deal with MMM? Im out of the loop since I don't watch the TV but last time I saw something with them it was very good comedy work and I enjoyed it. Maxxine had that "I know this is a cookie cutter character but I'm making the most of it" thing too which I like...Lana was the same way.
Started reading a few chapters of a book about Stampede that I found online and Im thinking maybe we DO need a Hart family Dark Side that focuses on everything besides Bret and Owen. I really just want to hear the Bruce Hart stories because I think he might secretly be the biggest IRL heel in wrestling. Aside from being bad in the ring, mumbling through every promo for 20 years and having the most hilariously awkward "I wish I was the Fonz" wardrobe, he was also apparently a jealous, delusional fuckwad who genuinely thought he was better than his brothers and deserved their spot in the fed.
Oh and can't forget about the fact he was a schoolteacher who knocked up his 14 year old student and had to marry her so Stu could keep the story somewhat under wraps. Basically everything I've seen or read about the guy points to him being super unlikeable and I feel like you'd find some gold if you started digging there
Just got done watching Marty Jannetty dark side of the ring episode.
Imo one of the better episodes this season.
I wish the episodes were a little bit longer.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBig night for the Paul brothers, they both won rigged fights!
Gunther is amazing.
Bloodline story stays really good.
MMA fight was awful. Bayzler and Ronda are awful.
Brock and Cody was pretty good but how many times does Cody need to do that springboard kick in one match?
But it is nice to have a few WWE things that are crushing that I look forward to seeing.
LA Knight is the most over dude in all wrestling right now, hope WWE can capitalize.[close]
I have a feeling Knight is going to burn out eventually and do the thing where he refuses to change his gimmick and just takes it to impact and then progressively less prestigious indy shows. He can talk but I don't see anything from him that keeps me engaged and wanting to watch his matches or a character I can identify with and get invested in. Basically mr. Kennnedy all over again.
Whats the deal with MMM? Im out of the loop since I don't watch the TV but last time I saw something with them it was very good comedy work and I enjoyed it. Maxxine had that "I know this is a cookie cutter character but I'm making the most of it" thing too which I like...Lana was the same way.
Started reading a few chapters of a book about Stampede that I found online and Im thinking maybe we DO need a Hart family Dark Side that focuses on everything besides Bret and Owen. I really just want to hear the Bruce Hart stories because I think he might secretly be the biggest IRL heel in wrestling. Aside from being bad in the ring, mumbling through every promo for 20 years and having the most hilariously awkward "I wish I was the Fonz" wardrobe, he was also apparently a jealous, delusional fuckwad who genuinely thought he was better than his brothers and deserved their spot in the fed.
Oh and can't forget about the fact he was a schoolteacher who knocked up his 14 year old student and had to marry her so Stu could keep the story somewhat under wraps. Basically everything I've seen or read about the guy points to him being super unlikeable and I feel like you'd find some gold if you started digging there[close]
Wasn’t he already there as Eli Drake?
Expand QuoteJust got done watching Marty Jannetty dark side of the ring episode.
Imo one of the better episodes this season.
I wish the episodes were a little bit longer.[close]
This season was super hit or miss for me but this episode was definitely the highlight. From the last few minutes of Al Snow and Jannetty’s old friend it definitely sounds like that “story” wasn’t just for wrestling.
My favorite part of the Jannetty episode was Al Snow talking about Marty like a disappointed father.
Second favorite was the actual footage of the motorcycle in the India hotel lobby.
Third was the interview with a real life ring rat. The years were not kind to her either.
Wasn’t he already there as Eli Drake?
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Wasn’t he already there as Eli Drake?[close]
Yeah, I more meant I don't see him being any other character for the rest of his career except maybe a desperate repackage towards the end of his deal. He's probably LA knight (or LA Nights when he hits the indies) now, for better or worse. Same thing happened with Kennedy/Anderson. Obviously the guy can cut a promo but he's a bit boring and cookie cutter in the ring and I feel like unless he fixes that he's gonna end up in that "go out and warm up the crowd" curtain jerking spot they used to put road dogg in rather than a major title picture. I really think changing his gear and style would help with the walmart Rock write-off too. When you do tiny graphic trunks and black boots and pads and start throwing finger wavey elbow drops you can't really get mad when people draw that parallel.
Marty ep was really good for me, but not so much as a wrestling story as just a bio of a troubled dude who might be too charming for his own good.
Al Snow seems like he would be a good dad...I hope hes involved as a guest in future seasons. Eloquent dude, his palpable paternal disappointment was a highlight for me as well shaqueefster.
Was stoked to see Pat Tanaka too since I've watched a lot of AWA this month. Funny that Beefcake ended up with a Missy Hyatt clone too. Nice to see he's pretty useless in interviews too... Dude just grabbed Hogan's coattails and coasted through life on them. Potentially to get a better grip if you believe what Linda Hogan says.
As for the dirt - I love that Marty's "hacker" managed to perfectly mirror his writing style and penchant for typos and strange punctuation use when making the post about wanting to bang his daughter. Totally wasn't you dude! With the murder thing I don't doubt that the police in his hillbilly town are incompetent enough to not find anything but on the other hand the guy is a compulsive liar and attention seeker so it's really difficult to wholeheartedly believe anything he says. I think most of his stories take a shred of truth and then tightly encapsulate it with bullshit but it's impossible to tell what's what. Good shit Busey.
@busey well done with the Jannetty episode. Not my favorite of the series but it was still a joy to watch. Top ones of this season was definitely Doink, Bash at the Beach, Magnum TA & Bam Bam Bigelow.thanks! doink was one of my favourites too
it was so hard to put together because everyone tells a different story. do you believe russo's version of the story at all?
I watched the bash at the beach dark side episode this morning. Jesus Christ Busey, I feel sorry if you had to be there with Russo... I feel like people who feel the need to literally shout their story in your face are almost always full of shit. Dude has a serious victim complex. Bischoff is the stereotype of brown nosed corporate schmoozer come to life but Russo's ego and need for attention pretty much killed one of the most historic promotions in history. Just an unbearable manchild and definitely a pathological liar. Cornette's venom for him goes a little overboard but his criticisms are pretty spot on. When you catch him in a lie (not hard) or present him with evidence that counters his claims he just defaults to "bro I don't even care about wrestling" so he's developed about as much as your average 14 year old.
I'd say WWE still have some really great matches, but they're buried on the undercard or just don't get the attention they deserve because they prioritize the sizzle over the steak. It's a different style but there's enough Codys and Seths and on the roster that they're gonna blind squirrel a few.
I watched the bash at the beach dark side episode this morning. Jesus Christ Busey, I feel sorry if you had to be there with Russo... I feel like people who feel the need to literally shout their story in your face are almost always full of shit. Dude has a serious victim complex. Bischoff is the stereotype of brown nosed corporate schmoozer come to life but Russo's ego and need for attention pretty much killed one of the most historic promotions in history. Just an unbearable manchild and definitely a pathological liar. Cornette's venom for him goes a little overboard but his criticisms are pretty spot on. When you catch him in a lie (not hard) or present him with evidence that counters his claims he just defaults to "bro I don't even care about wrestling" so he's developed about as much as your average 14 year old.
I'm glad they reminded me of the dusty "thith ith my ass..if you weeell" and gave us some classic rainman-esque Meltzer clips though
Collision was a mixed bag. I don't watch ROH so I was surprised to see the bear country repackage. Beefcake Boulder is raw and has no clue what his character is supposed to be but you can't teach size like that and he can really move. Wanna see them in some matches with HoB just so I can see how he does with a guy close to his size.
I always hear how Mercedes Martinez is a veteran and good worker and shit but 90% of the time I watch her she's half a step behind and sloppy as hell. Really stood out against Willow and Stat who are crisp on almost everything. I know they're trying to set up a match but there's no world that Diamante and Mercedes should be beating your women's champ and a top contender, dumb cheating spot or not.
Can we just have Joe squash Indy guys and cut promos on all the shows? Bring back Luigi Primo and get the Michael Jackson guy in and tell Joe to just kill them.
Main event was pretty boring for me. Felt a bit like a vanity match that Punk booked to prove he could still hang with the young guys (though he really can't). Apparently he grabbed the mic and started shooting on hangman again to the live crowd for no reason after the match? Dude is an HBK level diva which is ironic given his Bret fetish. Cant wait for him to cause more unprofessional drama weeks out from the biggest show in the company's history.
Just realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go
Expand QuoteJust realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go[close]
Holy shit theres a lot of dead time for a live show. Like they showed a pre taped promo. Went to commercial and cameback with a recap of Smackdown. Went backstage for a pointless interview with Riddle and Drew says he will consider being his partner and riddle enters the ring so i guess he couldnt find anyone else. WTF how pointless and then another commercial for good measure. This shit is just WWE Network Peacock propaganda
Just realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and goI was there last week, actually one of the better live events I've been to. I have to admit, it is fun to be in a stadium with 10,000 people booing as loud as possible at one person (Dom)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go[close]
Holy shit theres a lot of dead time for a live show. Like they showed a pre taped promo. Went to commercial and cameback with a recap of Smackdown. Went backstage for a pointless interview with Riddle and Drew says he will consider being his partner and riddle enters the ring so i guess he couldnt find anyone else. WTF how pointless and then another commercial for good measure. This shit is just WWE Network Peacock propaganda[close]
The dead time is for commercial breaks
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go[close]
Holy shit theres a lot of dead time for a live show. Like they showed a pre taped promo. Went to commercial and cameback with a recap of Smackdown. Went backstage for a pointless interview with Riddle and Drew says he will consider being his partner and riddle enters the ring so i guess he couldnt find anyone else. WTF how pointless and then another commercial for good measure. This shit is just WWE Network Peacock propaganda[close]
The dead time is for commercial breaks[close]
I understand but the commercials could be better placed. Whats the point in going in person if theres close to 25 minutes straight of videos playing a bit of backstage segments and but mostly ads for 2k23 and stone colds podcast and nothing happening live. They have been filling in the commercials more in the second hour with a DX crotchchop cam and a WWE Universe dance party instead of watching people stand around in the ring for no reason
Agree @blurst_of_times the boos Dom gets was crazy to see live
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go[close]
Holy shit theres a lot of dead time for a live show. Like they showed a pre taped promo. Went to commercial and cameback with a recap of Smackdown. Went backstage for a pointless interview with Riddle and Drew says he will consider being his partner and riddle enters the ring so i guess he couldnt find anyone else. WTF how pointless and then another commercial for good measure. This shit is just WWE Network Peacock propaganda[close]
The dead time is for commercial breaks[close]
I understand but the commercials could be better placed. Whats the point in going in person if theres close to 25 minutes straight of videos playing a bit of backstage segments and but mostly ads for 2k23 and stone colds podcast and nothing happening live. They have been filling in the commercials more in the second hour with a DX crotchchop cam and a WWE Universe dance party instead of watching people stand around in the ring for no reason
Agree @blurst_of_times the boos Dom gets was crazy to see live[close]
Yeah, but that’s the Fed. It’s never been a wrestle heavy program
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust realized RAW is in town, probably gonna grab some last minute nose bleed tickets and go[close]
Holy shit theres a lot of dead time for a live show. Like they showed a pre taped promo. Went to commercial and cameback with a recap of Smackdown. Went backstage for a pointless interview with Riddle and Drew says he will consider being his partner and riddle enters the ring so i guess he couldnt find anyone else. WTF how pointless and then another commercial for good measure. This shit is just WWE Network Peacock propaganda[close]
The dead time is for commercial breaks[close]
I understand but the commercials could be better placed. Whats the point in going in person if theres close to 25 minutes straight of videos playing a bit of backstage segments and but mostly ads for 2k23 and stone colds podcast and nothing happening live. They have been filling in the commercials more in the second hour with a DX crotchchop cam and a WWE Universe dance party instead of watching people stand around in the ring for no reason
Agree @blurst_of_times the boos Dom gets was crazy to see live[close]
Yeah, but that’s the Fed. It’s never been a wrestle heavy program[close]
100% but only it felt like I paid to watch a TV show, wouldve been nice to have more happen in the ring or on the stage instead of backstage, it was mostly just staring at a giant screen instead of seeing the people I paid to see live. Still enjoyed it, everything that happened was good match and promos. Enjoyed Smackdown and AEW more this year for live shows, Smackdown felt like much more happened in less time
It’s official, I’m going to Wrestlemania.
Off topic slightly, but does anyone know the reasoning behind Billy Corgan's fascination with wrestling? Went to see the Pumpkins earlier this year and every set was sandwiched with pro wrestling, honestly one of the best live shows Ive seen as a result.
Bear Country repackage happened a while back. It felt pretty unnecessary, almost like a Fed move
Off topic slightly, but does anyone know the reasoning behind Billy Corgan's fascination with wrestling? Went to see the Pumpkins earlier this year and every set was sandwiched with pro wrestling, honestly one of the best live shows Ive seen as a result.
Reports are Terry Funk has passed away. It's hard to really define his greatness since it was spread out across a few dozen promotions and a solid 40 years, but I think you can make a very compelling case for him being the best to ever lace them up. At the very least I think he has just as much claim to the greatest of his generation as Flair does, but I always thought Terry was better. Flair wrestled the same match or some variation thereof for like 95% of his career while the Funker seemed to never wrestle the same match twice. I think he's probably the best seller in history, and he's really still the gold standard for unhinged promo work. Before I fell asleep last night I watched Terry Funk vs Mark Lewin from Houston wrestling and got super into it. I'm glad I didn't take it for granted.
I wonder if they'll do a live streamed memorial for the public like they did with Jay Briscoe. If they do I hope Mick gives his eulogy, but I could see Dory doing it too if hes feeling up to it. I fully expect Moxley and AEW to do something in his honor tonight. Hopefully they open with a 10 bell at the very least.
RIP Terry.
Edit - this is one of my favorite matches on YouTube... Funk vs Harley Race from 1977 with the inimitable Paul Boesch on ringside commentary (if you look closely there's a teen Bruce Prichard sitting beside him). Watch in 720p for best experience.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWD_fjreo8
Dang, he had a heart attack that I guess was connected to his inability to get medically cleared.
Last night’s Smackdown did well on commemorating Bray & Terry as there was a 10 ring for them & two great promos by LA Knight & Cody Rhodes. Hardcore match to honor Terry was lackluster but LA Knight with a win over Finn Balor in the main event was great. All of the footage of both Bray & Terry sprinkled throughout the night was a treat. WWE also put up a 10 greatest moments of Bray on their channel through Peacock
Expand QuoteLast night’s Smackdown did well on commemorating Bray & Terry as there was a 10 ring for them & two great promos by LA Knight & Cody Rhodes. Hardcore match to honor Terry was lackluster but LA Knight with a win over Finn Balor in the main event was great. All of the footage of both Bray & Terry sprinkled throughout the night was a treat. WWE also put up a 10 greatest moments of Bray on their channel through Peacock[close]
Why do they keep jobbing Finn Bálor out though?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLast night’s Smackdown did well on commemorating Bray & Terry as there was a 10 ring for them & two great promos by LA Knight & Cody Rhodes. Hardcore match to honor Terry was lackluster but LA Knight with a win over Finn Balor in the main event was great. All of the footage of both Bray & Terry sprinkled throughout the night was a treat. WWE also put up a 10 greatest moments of Bray on their channel through Peacock[close]
Why do they keep jobbing Finn Bálor out though?[close]
Honestly I think it’s to get people behind him as they are going to push him. He will likely split from Judgement Day. I could see him turning face in the near future. For LA Knight, it was a huge win & also a major push. For Finn, he’s unaffected. He’s still in the top dog spot. It was a win win from my point of view.
Came to pay respects to windham RIP. This one sucks
RIP to both Funk & Rotunda.
-I was re-watching one of Funk's barbed wire matches with Onita. It was great. I remember he gave the coolest intro promo line in Vice's dark side of the ring episode on FMW/Onita. Couldn't find it on YT, but it went something like: "Dangerous like a two-eyed porcupine. Tougher than a two dollar steak. Crazy... crazy like a fox. I'm talking about me: Terry Funk."
-I haven't followed Bray's work in recent time, but I always got the impression that he was never given favorable results at the end of feuds or character arcs. But man, he was so good. I remember learning about one of his early characters that donned a hockey mask named Axl Mulligan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cxTzPtuD0
I still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.
Expand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.
My TV provider had the start time for the show fucked up so I missed the pre show and Samoa Joe match while spatchcoking some chickens for smoking. Thought the arena looked great and as a West Ham fan and Bobby Moore being the "Master of Wembley" it was great to see a show there. Sound was a lil messed up at points but the crowd was great.
Match of the night was FTR vs Young Bucks for me, best tag teams of this era and good on AEW for Revivaling tag team wrestling.
Jericho vs Will wouldve been match of the night but I felt Ospreay took much too long on 2 or 3 spots and it took me out of an otherwise great match. The build up and match shows Jericho can still go with the best and should be considered one of the greatest (taking away him never being a top guy in the fed or WCW, he did add tons of prestige to the AEW title and AEW itself when it began)
Main event was great story telling if a little much, as always MJF is a generational talent. He might be one of the only special attraction draws who almost never wrestles who isnt a Genetic Freak.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.[close]
When did anyone ever sayThe Miz has Goat potential??
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.[close]
When did anyone ever sayThe Miz has Goat potential??[close]
The Miz is one of the best talkers in wrestling right now. I’d say even better than MJF. He’s pretty good in the ring too.
His work in this LA Knight feud is making it more apparent.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.[close]
Gnar'd for the comment about Imperium although I think Kaiser is getting a singles push soon. Huuuuge fan of Kaiser & Gunther. Vinci is just henchman for now (if anything). I agree with the comment about the Miz as his promo last night was hilarious. I haven't actually laughed at something related to wrestling in a while. However, he is not better than MJF. MJF is more unhinged but in the most calculated way possible. He does micro assessments that register at lightening speed because even when what he says is wild or borderline clown town, it still keeps things moving & alive.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.[close]
When did anyone ever sayThe Miz has Goat potential??[close]
The Miz is one of the best talkers in wrestling right now. I’d say even better than MJF. He’s pretty good in the ring too.
His work in this LA Knight feud is making it more apparent.[close]
No way. Miz is very good at what he does but MJF lives his gimmick and just does not miss. I have never heard him lose a crowd (unintentionally) or really even stumble and I can't say that for the Miz. Also the MJF character has layers...there's a lot going on there and he explores and juggles all of it really well.
Miz is what I'd call the modern version of a Mr. Perfect style "good hand"...he can be trusted to make everyone involved look good and is capable of stepping up for a main event here and there but is fundamentally just not a company carrier. I have a lot of respect for Miz (he's really made chicken salad out of chicken shit a few times over the years) but MJF is one of the best storytellers both in and out of the ring I've ever seen.
I was thinking about the Punk drama and wondering if they're going to have to change plans around MJF yet again because of Punk's inability to take criticism (despite his love of giving it). I think the whole real world's champ thing was to set up MJF vs Punk and at some point Cole would betray MJF and make him worse than ever before, but if Punk quits then I don't know where they pivot. If they get Edge, maybe to him or Christian.
I just saw the Brian Alvarez stuff where apparently after Punk went after JB he almost got into it with Miro. Sounds like the locker room has pretty much had it with him. Dude is ruining his legacy by the day. No wonder no one in WWE wants anything to do with him and the guys who had to work with him often don't have the kindest things to say. He seems like a pretty insufferable asshole. By the end of the year Collision is just going to be him, Joe, the FTR that isn't in jail, and Brody King wrestling jobbers every week.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI still can’t believe that the Bucks and/or FTR have touted themselves as the greatest tag team is the DSM definition of delusion of grandeur. Comical but clinically concerning….
Also read that the UK was singing “Wheeler’s got a Gun” for AEW’s tough guy, Ca$h Wheeler.
Punk; my theory is the only way he can stay relevant is to create backstage controversy. Not good in the ring as I thought he was going to drop Samoa Joe during the Golden Vampire stunt which was also a half assed mess & radiates the dumpster fire known as 99-2000 WCW.[close]
Greatest ever? Maybe not. Greatest of past 20 something years, sure!
Also, yeah Punk would be better turning the other cheek, but Perry did instigate this one by talking shit to punk on camera as he was exiting. Think it’s good for him to toughen up his heel persona[close]
Come on! Greatest in the past 20 years?!?
What criteria are we using? The USOS alone are miles ahead of them. 20 years ago we had Edge & Christian. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin. Brothers of Destruction. Nash & Hall. FTR?????????? Two WWE cuts who did some missy notable overseas stuff & got lucky that Khan thought their “old school” look/mentality was cool & gave them a new wave song to come out to & say whatever they want on a microphone.[close]
Nash and Hall??? Did they have some good matches in TNA I missed?
Those are memorable tag pairings (I guess), but I don’t really think they’ve had any classic matches outside of Edge and Christian TLC matches which aren’t really tag matches.
I think we might be pretty far on this topic bc you strike me that as someone who by and large enjoys the wrestling product from the Fed.[close]
I’d say the eliminators are up there is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
Sabu and RVD too.
I think the most underrated tag team right now are Kaiser and Vinci. They’re so perfectly in sync with their double teams.
Also, The Miz is living up to goat potential in this LA Knight feud. He’s been frying LA Knight with every promo he cuts.[close]
Gnar'd for the comment about Imperium although I think Kaiser is getting a singles push soon. Huuuuge fan of Kaiser & Gunther. Vinci is just henchman for now (if anything). I agree with the comment about the Miz as his promo last night was hilarious. I haven't actually laughed at something related to wrestling in a while. However, he is not better than MJF. MJF is more unhinged but in the most calculated way possible. He does micro assessments that register at lightening speed because even when what he says is wild or borderline clown town, it still keeps things moving & alive.[close]
I’ll say Miz could adapt to the AEW programming easily, but MJF would struggle with the leash WWE programming would put him in if the feds were reversed.
MJF is great in AEW because he’s unbridled there.
Also, how the hell do people like Eddie Kingston? Somehow he’s credited with being good on the microphone? His gimmick reminds me of the new guy/new stepdad that comes into a kids life, wants to be cool but actually is just a slob & plays video games on his system he never shares. He also does not look well in the ring. Uncoordinated & slap boxing at times.
On a different note, I’m excited to see this Chad Gable push as he will undoubtedly meet my Kurt Angle needs. Super talented & incredible strength. Love that his finisher is a bridged German Suplex.
LA Knight will only get better working this program with Miz.
I’ll say CM Punk and Jungle Dork are both at fault for this debacle.
Like glass in a spot is the hill he wants to die on?
He’s not Necro Butcher.
This isn’t FMW or W*ING lol.
Expand QuoteAlso, how the hell do people like Eddie Kingston? Somehow he’s credited with being good on the microphone? His gimmick reminds me of the new guy/new stepdad that comes into a kids life, wants to be cool but actually is just a slob & plays video games on his system he never shares. He also does not look well in the ring. Uncoordinated & slap boxing at times.
On a different note, I’m excited to see this Chad Gable push as he will undoubtedly meet my Kurt Angle needs. Super talented & incredible strength. Love that his finisher is a bridged German Suplex.[close]
I think it's mostly leftover goodwill from his Indy runs a decade ago when he could still go a little and the fact that the modern wrestling audience finds the pudgy, uncoordinated guy who hates everyone relatable (shocker, I know). Don't underestimate Everyman appeal. He can cut a decent promo but has the same problem as Moxley where it's the same promo reworded every time. I liked him a lot in his Chikara run but I don't understand people clamoring for him to get some main event push in 2023....he can barely go ten minutes without gassing in a walk and brawl and basically every time they put him in with main eventers he looks slow and out of his depth. People who keep making the Foley comparison ignore the fact that Mick was deceptively athletic and could wrestle long, demanding matches as well as anyone in the company when he got his push.Expand Quote
LA Knight will only get better working this program with Miz.
I’ll say CM Punk and Jungle Dork are both at fault for this debacle.
Like glass in a spot is the hill he wants to die on?
He’s not Necro Butcher.
This isn’t FMW or W*ING lol.[close]
From what I understand it wasn't real glass like FMW used to do, I think he just wanted to do a windshield spot (probably basically the same one he did on the PPV) which AEW has done literally dozens of times and we all know was an attitude era staple. He had gotten permission from AEW - who even paid to rent the car -and then showed up to the show and Punk threw his hissy fit. It is also a little suspicious that all the people Punk caused problems with on collision (Daniels, Hangman, nemeth, JB) were close to the bucks, almost like hes got an ulterior motive or something.
The person that deserves all the blame is Tony. Literally any competent manager would have actually addressed this at some point but he's a mark and particularly a mark for punk. I honestly kind of hope collision just fucking blows up in his face and he learns his lesson, but I would not be surprised if he just came up with yet another "solution" that doesn't address the actual problem in any way because he doesn't want the boys to be mad at him.
I agree LA knight will get better working with Miz and I think that's where his real value is - he's extremely good at elevating others. Kind of an upper card gatekeeper I guess. Dudes great and I dig him but he aint MJF. I would love to see them in a tag team with the smug douchery cranked up to 11 though.
Fun little fact I stole from reddit - the kangaroo kick is a real move from a depression era wrestler and is kinda where the dropkick originated. The guy who invented it was an undersized Jewish guy from New York, so I have to believe it's not just a coincidence that he's using it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Coleman
@Sativa Lung Maybe I'll train one day and a BBQ chef gimmick would be right up my alley.
As far as the tag team discussion is concerned, I think of this generation FTR and the bucks can be arguably considered the best. The Revival held TAG TITLES in WWE and NXT (3 and 2 times respectively), AEW twice and ROH 1 time (not as major) They also won the NJPW tag titles. Id say they have a claim to one of the best teams of this era when tag teams have been pushed aside.
I can see the Usos but they were pretty boring personalities with facepaint before the gimmick change and they have been raised a lot with the Bloodline story which isnt really pushing TAG TEAM wrestling.
Young Bucks wether you like them or not in the ring cannot be dissputed as one of the most iconic teams of this era. From to merch to how they could seemingly work shows in Japan, LA, Mexico, Puerto Rico and some other random city in the same week (Im exaggerating somewhat, but close to it) and all of them being sold out, Large to stadium sized venues speaks to their draw power. also got their shirts and lots of NJPW merch in most malls in North America off a youtube show is insane.
Brothers of Destruction as a suggestion of being better is too funny, I laughed out loud. When you think of Taker or Kane is the first or even tenth thing you think of is them as a tag team?
Expand Quote@Sativa Lung Maybe I'll train one day and a BBQ chef gimmick would be right up my alley.
As far as the tag team discussion is concerned, I think of this generation FTR and the bucks can be arguably considered the best. The Revival held TAG TITLES in WWE and NXT (3 and 2 times respectively), AEW twice and ROH 1 time (not as major) They also won the NJPW tag titles. Id say they have a claim to one of the best teams of this era when tag teams have been pushed aside.
I can see the Usos but they were pretty boring personalities with facepaint before the gimmick change and they have been raised a lot with the Bloodline story which isnt really pushing TAG TEAM wrestling.
Young Bucks wether you like them or not in the ring cannot be dissputed as one of the most iconic teams of this era. From to merch to how they could seemingly work shows in Japan, LA, Mexico, Puerto Rico and some other random city in the same week (Im exaggerating somewhat, but close to it) and all of them being sold out, Large to stadium sized venues speaks to their draw power. also got their shirts and lots of NJPW merch in most malls in North America off a youtube show is insane.
Brothers of Destruction as a suggestion of being better is too funny, I laughed out loud. When you think of Taker or Kane is the first or even tenth thing you think of is them as a tag team?[close]
Absolutely think of them as a tag team. They had the moments as a team & had gold. They had chemistry, etc. are they in the top 10, no…
But FTR is boring, look out of shape, have terrible mic skills, they have nothing. Then the Bucks; they’re just stunt men with super kicks. Not to mention there are ZERO skills on microphone. That’s what I look for.
CM Punk fired.
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/)
Expand QuoteCM Punk fired.
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/)[close]
An idiot fired from a secondary promotion that is at best WCW 2.0.
Expand QuoteCM Punk fired.
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/)[close]
An idiot fired from a secondary promotion that is at best WCW 2.0.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCM Punk fired.
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2023/09/02/aew-releases-cm-punk-from-his-contract/)[close]
An idiot fired from a secondary promotion that is at best WCW 2.0.[close]
You say that like it's a bad thing... WCW might have shit the bed hard at the end but they were neck and neck with the fed for almost a decade after Turner came on board and if you trace the legacy back to Crockett then it becomes difficult to even define the impact it had. In a lot of ways WCW kept wrestling alive while Vince was trying to mold it into his awful vision. I think it's pretty telling that as soon as Vince bought them out we got a run of terrible booking that pretty much lasted until he was basically forced to hand creative over to trips.
AEW has plenty of flaws (and i think everyone here knows I love to point them out) but we're in the midst of a mini wrestling renaissance/boom period pretty much because of them and as low as the lows can be, the highs are just as high or higher. After years of not being able to really enjoy wrestling because it was either Vince or indys with one or two worthwhile matches on the card I finally have something I can watch and enjoy the way I did growing up. I don't care for everyone on the card but that's always going to be the case, especially in a promotion like AEW that is kind of a buffet of styles, overall though it's a lot easier for me to watch and infinitely easier for me to stay engaged in. The wrestlers feel more authentic and like real people, I dont have to entirely suspend my disbelief or constantly remind myself that these characters only exist in an alternate reality to make the story make sense like you so often had to with Vince's world.
Obviously wrestling is always changing and evolving, but I think AEW is going to keep growing and hopefully getting better for the time being. If Tony ever learns how to be a real booker and not just a matchmaker then they have everything they need to succeed, and I'm hopeful that now that the biggest distraction is out of the way they can get back to focusing on the guys like MJF, hangman, and Darby who are really talented storytellers and maybe we can get a breakthrough push for guys like Swerve, Andrade, HoB, and Big Bill. Malakai needs a main event run for sure, and then you still have guys who dont need to be made like omega, BD, Christian, and Jericho who have some magic left in the tank to do some of the heavy lifting. There's also some dead heat that could be revived like dork order and lucha bros. The roster is insanely stacked, and now they have probably 20 minutes of TV time a week to fill. I see this as a chance to make the product better and closer to what it was like when they got hot in 2021. Hope its not just wasted on Tony's toybox specials.
Kevin Kelly needs to go though. He's pretty fuckin shit at his job (not to mention being a weak ass qanon nutsack) and doesn't seem to really be invested in the product. Shame Ian Rickyboner doesn't wanna work Saturdays, he even makes Nigel work for me.
What sucks is that jack perry is boring and isn’t entertaining at all with amateur style and awful on the mic. Cm punk is gone but glorifying this peon gets under my skin.
Expand QuoteWhat sucks is that jack perry is boring and isn’t entertaining at all with amateur style and awful on the mic. Cm punk is gone but glorifying this peon gets under my skin.[close]
But Dominik is cool?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat sucks is that jack perry is boring and isn’t entertaining at all with amateur style and awful on the mic. Cm punk is gone but glorifying this peon gets under my skin.[close]
But Dominik is cool?[close]
Dominik knows the industry and backstage etiquette better.
I ain’t ever said anything about Rey’s kid.Expand QuoteWhat sucks is that jack perry is boring and isn’t entertaining at all with amateur style and awful on the mic. Cm punk is gone but glorifying this peon gets under my skin.[close]
But Dominik is cool?
Yeah Aussie open definitely fucks. They got a win on collision to get some heat back but it wasnt even against a team so I'm not sure how effective that is. I'm into it though. Its always cool when a team has a heavy guy and an athletic dude and I like the style..nice little hybrid of njpw/Indy shit with power moves and they do some pretty creative stuff.
Watched a little bit of payback (I had to, they're in Pittsburgh) and it was quite good. I didn't care for Graves shoehorning multiple Pittsburgh references into every fucking match - we get it dude, you grew up here - but the wrasslin was mostly good. Sami and KO pandering to the crowd with the Lemieux and Crosby jerseys worked like a charm on me but Im so fucking pissed they made Owens wipe the blood off and glued the cut closed when he got busted open brawling in the crowd. Like the first decent crimson mask I've seen from the fed in ages and they had to ruin it. They even put the highlights in black and white......so fuckin lame.
LA knight vs miz was exactly what we all expected it to be but that's not a bad thing. Cena trying to steal the spotlight was pretty on brand...at points it felt like it was more about him than LA knight and Miz.
Trish and Becky was another match that would have benefitted immensely from a little blood but they went super hard and had a great match so I'll give them their flowers for that. That bump on Trish's forehead was no joke. I dont know if it's just because Becky is really good or she just had a good night or what but Trish looked better than I ever remember her being back in the day, she was crisp and took some serious bumps. Probably my match of the night, makes it even more fucked up that they bumped them off SummerSlam in favor of that awful Ronda mma match.
Didn't watch the other matches.
Trish vs. Becky was for sure my favorite wrestling moment of the week. The All Out crowd chanting “meat forever” during Hobbs vs. Miro was a close second.
I’ve been rooting for CM Punk since his return, but man, I’m honestly glad Tony Khan pulled the trigger. I’m mostly annoyed at Punk for not letting me enjoy a strong CM Punk run because he kept sabotaging it every time he had momentum. Constant buildups and letdowns.
Has anyone watched this channel yet? I havent watched any wrestling for like 20 or more years. I like to see what these guys are up to now.
https://www.youtube.com/@SnakePitPod
Also one i found to be crazy even if embellished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=400EfSALPP4
Watched the whole pay per view; the match of the night was definitely Lynch & Stratus. Ripley match vs Roderiguez was lackluster & silent at times as the crowd was not into it. Rollins VS Nakamura was okay but Rollins beat him clean, no cash in, nothing to further extend the storyline which was a tad frustrating. Well done Becky & Trish. Always looooove when the Women’s division dominates, let alone dominates a PPV.
That Joe-MJF interaction was great.
I may have to make my 2nd Arthur Ashe Stadium trip this month to check out AEW Grand Slam in 2 weeks.
Expand QuoteThat Joe-MJF interaction was great.
I may have to make my 2nd Arthur Ashe Stadium trip this month to check out AEW Grand Slam in 2 weeks.[close]
You go watch some US Open or just went there to skate?
I agree that All Out just looked like it could have been one of the Dynamite Supercard shows, or even if they put it on TNT on a Sunday night it could have been fine. I wasn't trying to pay $50 for it, although I did want to spend the money just so AEW didn't think people weren't buying because CM Punk was gone.
Looking forward to Swerve v. Hangman. Prince Nana is growing on me.
Roderick Strong putting the neck brace back on after his match was pretty funny.
Got my ticket for a grand slam. Those tickets are ridiculously cheap, I paid $30 for what would’ve been an over $200 US open seat.
Expand QuoteI agree that All Out just looked like it could have been one of the Dynamite Supercard shows, or even if they put it on TNT on a Sunday night it could have been fine. I wasn't trying to pay $50 for it, although I did want to spend the money just so AEW didn't think people weren't buying because CM Punk was gone.
Looking forward to Swerve v. Hangman. Prince Nana is growing on me.
Roderick Strong putting the neck brace back on after his match was pretty funny.[close]
Yeah swerve and hanger are two of the best talents they have and way more deserving of the spotlight than Punk and his vanity belt. Let those be the dudes who carry your shows, that's what got people hyped on them in the first place. That and MJF vs Joe would have both been very high on my list if I was given control of the toybox so needless to say I'm stoked to see how this plays out.
To put on my fantasy booker hat for a moment I think the money would be in a double turn of MJF and Cole (Cole betrays MJF which sends him completely over the edge and back to his evil heel ways, but Cole doesnt win the belt), then have Hangman be the one who steps up to stop the bloodshed and get the belt back. Imagine his handsome ass riding into the stadium on a white horse to save the day with his awesome morricone-esque theme blasting... dudes the ultimate Babyface.
I watched a little bit of Victory Road last night and it was...mixed. I haven't really watched TNA/impact/global force etc since the Perc Angle days so i didn't know what to expect...it's kinda like a step above an Indy but not white what it used to be. The wrestling was ok but the production was a bit low budget... the themes sound like someone made them on their phone and the ring was mic'ed in a way that you could clearly hear them calling spots.
The main reason I watched it was for the Black Taurus match though...ever since Flairs last match I can't get enough of that dude. Possibly the coolest luchador I've seen since La Parka. Short arm snap power slams are such a sick move. Too bad they had him against Crazy Steve who is one of those shitty unoriginal gimmicks that they've been so fond of over the years (looking at you rellik).Expand QuoteGot my ticket for a grand slam. Those tickets are ridiculously cheap, I paid $30 for what would’ve been an over $200 US open seat.[close]
Nice. Have they announced anything other than Jericho vs Guevara (please let Jericho go over) and the stupid eliminator tourney final that's almost certainly going to be Samoa Joe vs MJF?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI agree that All Out just looked like it could have been one of the Dynamite Supercard shows, or even if they put it on TNT on a Sunday night it could have been fine. I wasn't trying to pay $50 for it, although I did want to spend the money just so AEW didn't think people weren't buying because CM Punk was gone.
Looking forward to Swerve v. Hangman. Prince Nana is growing on me.
Roderick Strong putting the neck brace back on after his match was pretty funny.[close]
Yeah swerve and hanger are two of the best talents they have and way more deserving of the spotlight than Punk and his vanity belt. Let those be the dudes who carry your shows, that's what got people hyped on them in the first place. That and MJF vs Joe would have both been very high on my list if I was given control of the toybox so needless to say I'm stoked to see how this plays out.
To put on my fantasy booker hat for a moment I think the money would be in a double turn of MJF and Cole (Cole betrays MJF which sends him completely over the edge and back to his evil heel ways, but Cole doesnt win the belt), then have Hangman be the one who steps up to stop the bloodshed and get the belt back. Imagine his handsome ass riding into the stadium on a white horse to save the day with his awesome morricone-esque theme blasting... dudes the ultimate Babyface.
I watched a little bit of Victory Road last night and it was...mixed. I haven't really watched TNA/impact/global force etc since the Perc Angle days so i didn't know what to expect...it's kinda like a step above an Indy but not white what it used to be. The wrestling was ok but the production was a bit low budget... the themes sound like someone made them on their phone and the ring was mic'ed in a way that you could clearly hear them calling spots.
The main reason I watched it was for the Black Taurus match though...ever since Flairs last match I can't get enough of that dude. Possibly the coolest luchador I've seen since La Parka. Short arm snap power slams are such a sick move. Too bad they had him against Crazy Steve who is one of those shitty unoriginal gimmicks that they've been so fond of over the years (looking at you rellik).Expand QuoteGot my ticket for a grand slam. Those tickets are ridiculously cheap, I paid $30 for what would’ve been an over $200 US open seat.[close]
Nice. Have they announced anything other than Jericho vs Guevara (please let Jericho go over) and the stupid eliminator tourney final that's almost certainly going to be Samoa Joe vs MJF?[close]
Those are the only two matches I know will be on the card. I’m sure we’ll see Swerve Vs Hangman.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI agree that All Out just looked like it could have been one of the Dynamite Supercard shows, or even if they put it on TNT on a Sunday night it could have been fine. I wasn't trying to pay $50 for it, although I did want to spend the money just so AEW didn't think people weren't buying because CM Punk was gone.
Looking forward to Swerve v. Hangman. Prince Nana is growing on me.
Roderick Strong putting the neck brace back on after his match was pretty funny.[close]
Yeah swerve and hanger are two of the best talents they have and way more deserving of the spotlight than Punk and his vanity belt. Let those be the dudes who carry your shows, that's what got people hyped on them in the first place. That and MJF vs Joe would have both been very high on my list if I was given control of the toybox so needless to say I'm stoked to see how this plays out.
To put on my fantasy booker hat for a moment I think the money would be in a double turn of MJF and Cole (Cole betrays MJF which sends him completely over the edge and back to his evil heel ways, but Cole doesnt win the belt), then have Hangman be the one who steps up to stop the bloodshed and get the belt back. Imagine his handsome ass riding into the stadium on a white horse to save the day with his awesome morricone-esque theme blasting... dudes the ultimate Babyface.
I watched a little bit of Victory Road last night and it was...mixed. I haven't really watched TNA/impact/global force etc since the Perc Angle days so i didn't know what to expect...it's kinda like a step above an Indy but not white what it used to be. The wrestling was ok but the production was a bit low budget... the themes sound like someone made them on their phone and the ring was mic'ed in a way that you could clearly hear them calling spots.
The main reason I watched it was for the Black Taurus match though...ever since Flairs last match I can't get enough of that dude. Possibly the coolest luchador I've seen since La Parka. Short arm snap power slams are such a sick move. Too bad they had him against Crazy Steve who is one of those shitty unoriginal gimmicks that they've been so fond of over the years (looking at you rellik).Expand QuoteGot my ticket for a grand slam. Those tickets are ridiculously cheap, I paid $30 for what would’ve been an over $200 US open seat.[close]
Nice. Have they announced anything other than Jericho vs Guevara (please let Jericho go over) and the stupid eliminator tourney final that's almost certainly going to be Samoa Joe vs MJF?[close]
Those are the only two matches I know will be on the card. I’m sure we’ll see Swerve Vs Hangman.[close]
Yeah they just got off back to back PPVs. I’m thinking this card will need a moment to build.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI agree that All Out just looked like it could have been one of the Dynamite Supercard shows, or even if they put it on TNT on a Sunday night it could have been fine. I wasn't trying to pay $50 for it, although I did want to spend the money just so AEW didn't think people weren't buying because CM Punk was gone.
Looking forward to Swerve v. Hangman. Prince Nana is growing on me.
Roderick Strong putting the neck brace back on after his match was pretty funny.[close]
Yeah swerve and hanger are two of the best talents they have and way more deserving of the spotlight than Punk and his vanity belt. Let those be the dudes who carry your shows, that's what got people hyped on them in the first place. That and MJF vs Joe would have both been very high on my list if I was given control of the toybox so needless to say I'm stoked to see how this plays out.
To put on my fantasy booker hat for a moment I think the money would be in a double turn of MJF and Cole (Cole betrays MJF which sends him completely over the edge and back to his evil heel ways, but Cole doesnt win the belt), then have Hangman be the one who steps up to stop the bloodshed and get the belt back. Imagine his handsome ass riding into the stadium on a white horse to save the day with his awesome morricone-esque theme blasting... dudes the ultimate Babyface.
I watched a little bit of Victory Road last night and it was...mixed. I haven't really watched TNA/impact/global force etc since the Perc Angle days so i didn't know what to expect...it's kinda like a step above an Indy but not white what it used to be. The wrestling was ok but the production was a bit low budget... the themes sound like someone made them on their phone and the ring was mic'ed in a way that you could clearly hear them calling spots.
The main reason I watched it was for the Black Taurus match though...ever since Flairs last match I can't get enough of that dude. Possibly the coolest luchador I've seen since La Parka. Short arm snap power slams are such a sick move. Too bad they had him against Crazy Steve who is one of those shitty unoriginal gimmicks that they've been so fond of over the years (looking at you rellik).Expand QuoteGot my ticket for a grand slam. Those tickets are ridiculously cheap, I paid $30 for what would’ve been an over $200 US open seat.[close]
Nice. Have they announced anything other than Jericho vs Guevara (please let Jericho go over) and the stupid eliminator tourney final that's almost certainly going to be Samoa Joe vs MJF?[close]
Those are the only two matches I know will be on the card. I’m sure we’ll see Swerve Vs Hangman.[close]
Yeah they just got off back to back PPVs. I’m thinking this card will need a moment to build.[close]
Eddie vs Claudio / title vs title
Eddie def going over in NY
GUNTHER MAKING HISTORY AS THE LONGEST REIGNING INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION IN HISTORY!
I will say I am a fan of the Honkey Tonk Man & met him as a kid......but history needed to change.
As far as AEW, I again tried watching it & stopped after Jade Cargill returned. Just no interest & no point. I guess Mox will just be bleeding more as now he has a belt & will probably be wrestling every week now... Curious to see if Edge somehow goes over to AEW even though I should know better. Even if he did, I do not think it would matter. Maybe it would give Christian something better to do other than have this strange relationship with Luchasaurus.
Expand QuoteGUNTHER MAKING HISTORY AS THE LONGEST REIGNING INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION IN HISTORY!
I will say I am a fan of the Honkey Tonk Man & met him as a kid......but history needed to change.
As far as AEW, I again tried watching it & stopped after Jade Cargill returned. Just no interest & no point. I guess Mox will just be bleeding more as now he has a belt & will probably be wrestling every week now... Curious to see if Edge somehow goes over to AEW even though I should know better. Even if he did, I do not think it would matter. Maybe it would give Christian something better to do other than have this strange relationship with Luchasaurus.[close]
Was Mox not wrestling every week before?
Just got back from a live event at the Mall Of America in Minnesota. El Hijo del Vikingo was in the main event - that guy is incredible. Erick Rowan also wrestled and there was a short Bray Wyatt tribute after his match. All in all, a great event.
I'm surprised Becky won, I figured they were going to use this match to put over Tiffany, since they've been showing her more and more in the crowd on the main shows.
Dragunov is my favorite of the newer NXT guys. Stoked to see him continue to be pushed.
And I didn't know until tonight that the Creed Brothers weren never planned to go to the main roster after they "left" NXT, that it was just a storyline thing. Too bad, because I love those guys. Maybe it's for the better, since they haven't done shit with any of the other recent tag teams from NXT. Chance & Carter and Dawn & Fyre were both pretty over in NXT and after 1-2 matches on the main roster where they were squashed, they haven't been on TV since.
If you believe the dirt sheets HHH just scooped Jade out from under Tony's well powdered nose...that could be interesting. She's going to step up massively working with better talent like Asuka and Becky or she's going to get exposed when they put her with Rhea and Bianca and other women who can match her physically. I'm not sure which.
I kinda wonder if they won't put her on NXT or something. They could always go for Vince's favorite - make her look like shit on purpose so it looks like everyone from their competition is at a lower level.
Royal Rumble in Tampa Bay. I may try to go to that one too.
Expand QuoteRoyal Rumble in Tampa Bay. I may try to go to that one too.[close]
I live in Tampa! Might have to do a PALS Royal Rumble meetup!
Cody - I'm not leaving until I FINISH THE ST......
Rock - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU FINISH THE STORY!!!!!!
Expand QuoteCody - I'm not leaving until I FINISH THE ST......
Rock - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU FINISH THE STORY!!!!!![close]
I'll believe it when I see it. Rockys 50+, hasn't had a real match in a decade, and has been abusing steroids hard for the better part of the last 20 years. I imagine he'd rip several muscles just rolling into the ring, much like other old juiceheads have done, let alone taking an actual bump. It happened last time when he was still somewhat in shape, so I can't see him magically being able to do it now 10 years older and probably 30+ pounds heavier.
My moneys on them using him as someone's manager and maybe doing a spot or something.
Collision was rough. The opening match was good - Big Bill looks more like a main eventer every time I see him and hes the first big man I've seen in a while who can work 10 minutes at a small man's pace and not even be breathing heavy. He looked like he was in better shape than Cesaro somehow. The ending sequence of the main event was good. Everything in between was terrible.
The walmart Wyatt family - I legit can't remember what theyre called, the something - are trying WAY too hard to be weird (but not in the fun campy way) and the crowd shit on them for it. Oh and production somehow left the countdown in on a Keith Lee promo segment. The rest of the matches were awful or stupid booking (feeding iron savages to FTR in a glorified squash as soon as they start to get over a little) to the point I don't even want to talk about them. It was pretty miserable. One of the worst AEW shows I've watched in a long time.
Expand QuoteCody - I'm not leaving until I FINISH THE ST......
Rock - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU FINISH THE STORY!!!!!![close]
I'll believe it when I see it. Rockys 50+, hasn't had a real match in a decade, and has been abusing steroids hard for the better part of the last 20 years. I imagine he'd rip several muscles just rolling into the ring, much like other old juiceheads have done, let alone taking an actual bump. It happened last time when he was still somewhat in shape, so I can't see him magically being able to do it now 10 years older and probably 30+ pounds heavier.
My moneys on them using him as someone's manager and maybe doing a spot or something.
Collision was rough. The opening match was good - Big Bill looks more like a main eventer every time I see him and hes the first big man I've seen in a while who can work 10 minutes at a small man's pace and not even be breathing heavy. He looked like he was in better shape than Cesaro somehow. The ending sequence of the main event was good. Everything in between was terrible.
The walmart Wyatt family - I legit can't remember what theyre called, the something - are trying WAY too hard to be weird (but not in the fun campy way) and the crowd shit on them for it. Oh and production somehow left the countdown in on a Keith Lee promo segment. The rest of the matches were awful or stupid booking (feeding iron savages to FTR in a glorified squash as soon as they start to get over a little) to the point I don't even want to talk about them. It was pretty miserable. One of the worst AEW shows I've watched in a long time.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCody - I'm not leaving until I FINISH THE ST......
Rock - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU FINISH THE STORY!!!!!![close]
I'll believe it when I see it. Rockys 50+, hasn't had a real match in a decade, and has been abusing steroids hard for the better part of the last 20 years. I imagine he'd rip several muscles just rolling into the ring, much like other old juiceheads have done, let alone taking an actual bump. It happened last time when he was still somewhat in shape, so I can't see him magically being able to do it now 10 years older and probably 30+ pounds heavier.
My moneys on them using him as someone's manager and maybe doing a spot or something.
Collision was rough. The opening match was good - Big Bill looks more like a main eventer every time I see him and hes the first big man I've seen in a while who can work 10 minutes at a small man's pace and not even be breathing heavy. He looked like he was in better shape than Cesaro somehow. The ending sequence of the main event was good. Everything in between was terrible.
The walmart Wyatt family - I legit can't remember what theyre called, the something - are trying WAY too hard to be weird (but not in the fun campy way) and the crowd shit on them for it. Oh and production somehow left the countdown in on a Keith Lee promo segment. The rest of the matches were awful or stupid booking (feeding iron savages to FTR in a glorified squash as soon as they start to get over a little) to the point I don't even want to talk about them. It was pretty miserable. One of the worst AEW shows I've watched in a long time.[close]
The Kingdom? It’s funny you call them that because they were supposed to be brought over to be apart of the Wyatt 6
Collision seems interesting next week. Andrade vs Jay White has great potential
They actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.
They actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.
Expand QuoteThey actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.[close]
I’d like to add Foxcatcher into PA wrestling tradition. Angle was there
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThey actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.[close]
I’d like to add Foxcatcher into PA wrestling tradition. Angle was there[close]
Virgil’s from Pittsburgh.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThey actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.[close]
I’d like to add Foxcatcher into PA wrestling tradition. Angle was there[close]
Virgil’s from Pittsburgh.[close]
Good call, I can't believe I forgot him... I used to buy smack off someone in the Wilkinsburg area that claimed he was related to him. He constantly shorted me so given all the stories about Virgil in retirement I guess I believe it haha.
You just reminded me of this legendary tweet from last year
https://twitter.com/TheRealVirgil/status/1575291603299753984
And that reminded me of the story in Foley's book about Virgil getting to Memphis? (Might have been a different territory) and walking around naked all the time bragging about how big his dick was until Rob Fuller showed up and put him to shame. Foley said he never quite recovered from that haha
I was going to embed this but it might qualify as nsfw depending on where you work.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDI6KAdWMAEj1K_?format=jpg&name=medium
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThey actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.[close]
I’d like to add Foxcatcher into PA wrestling tradition. Angle was there[close]
Virgil’s from Pittsburgh.[close]
Good call, I can't believe I forgot him... I used to buy smack off someone in the Wilkinsburg area that claimed he was related to him. He constantly shorted me so given all the stories about Virgil in retirement I guess I believe it haha.
You just reminded me of this legendary tweet from last year
https://twitter.com/TheRealVirgil/status/1575291603299753984
And that reminded me of the story in Foley's book about Virgil getting to Memphis? (Might have been a different territory) and walking around naked all the time bragging about how big his dick was until Rob Fuller showed up and put him to shame. Foley said he never quite recovered from that haha
I was going to embed this but it might qualify as nsfw depending on where you work.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDI6KAdWMAEj1K_?format=jpg&name=medium[close]
I heard Virgil doesn’t actually write any of those tweets. It’s some white guy who runs his account like the Iron Sheik had.
I’m going to my second AEW Grand Slam tomorrow night and I can’t wait.
Also headed to the Burgh this weekend and may have to skate the Atwood lot and maybe Milliones if I’ve got some free time.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThey actually are pushing Miro...they just brought CJ (as his "hot and flexible" wife) in for the storyline. He's in a program with Powerhouse Hobbs and it's just getting going but has been good so far. They definitely wasted him for a long time, but I'm hoping he's going to be a focal point for collision going forward. I don't have a lot of faith in TK booking, but it should be hard to fuck it up given how good both guys are and the fact CJ is actually a fantastic promo (loved her as Lana), plus collision seems to do more pre-tapes than live promos which is where they really shine.
Kurt is from the other end of Pittsburgh from me. He's kind of a local celebrity but interestingly his family is somewhat notorious for being kind of stereotypical violent trashy yinzers. Eric (the one that WWF used as a body double) got caught selling roids and got thrown out of a youth wrestling tournament after chokeslamming an 8 year old - I wish I was making that up. I cant remember if he got arrested for that one but he might have. Kurts older brother killed his wife by dragging her off the couch and standing on her chest while pulling on her arms and caved in her chest. Again, wish I was making this up. Iirc Kurts sister died of a heroin overdose as well. When Kurt talks about his demons, a lot of people don't realize how deep they run... I suppose they're kind of like the Pittsburgh Harts in a way.
Pittsburgh doesn't have the best wrestling tradition aside from Bruno and Kurt haha. We can also claim Shane Douglas, Corey Graves, Britt Baker, Rob Conway, and Elias but I'm not sure why anyone would want to.
Oh I guess there's Denucci too...Foley tells some pretty great stories about training with him in his first book. He's always been really good about showing love to us when he comes here because of that and the fact hes forever linked with the city because of Hell in a Cell 98.[close]
I’d like to add Foxcatcher into PA wrestling tradition. Angle was there[close]
Virgil’s from Pittsburgh.[close]
Good call, I can't believe I forgot him... I used to buy smack off someone in the Wilkinsburg area that claimed he was related to him. He constantly shorted me so given all the stories about Virgil in retirement I guess I believe it haha.
You just reminded me of this legendary tweet from last year
https://twitter.com/TheRealVirgil/status/1575291603299753984
And that reminded me of the story in Foley's book about Virgil getting to Memphis? (Might have been a different territory) and walking around naked all the time bragging about how big his dick was until Rob Fuller showed up and put him to shame. Foley said he never quite recovered from that haha
I was going to embed this but it might qualify as nsfw depending on where you work.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDI6KAdWMAEj1K_?format=jpg&name=medium[close]
I heard Virgil doesn’t actually write any of those tweets. It’s some white guy who runs his account like the Iron Sheik had.
I’m going to my second AEW Grand Slam tomorrow night and I can’t wait.
Also headed to the Burgh this weekend and may have to skate the Atwood lot and maybe Milliones if I’ve got some free time.[close]
Fuck dude when are you gonna be here? I'm actually going up to slippery rock for the weekend to visit some friends. You picked the first weekend in like months that I won't be home hahaha.
Milliones was a little messy on the run up a few weeks ago but it's nothing a good sweep or a bigger wheel can't handle...shits still an accidental skatepark haha. I have no clue how Evan Smith and those dudes skate the big bank, last time I looked at it the cracks were so big vines were growing out of it. Really is the quintessential pgh spot though and its been cool to see it still poppinf up in lakai and thrasher videos recently. I got broke the fuck off bombing the hill down to centre a few years ago and I get still like mild ptsd when I walk up it haha.
Have you heard about our new DIY? It's the old boundary st playground down in panther hollow and it's pretty fun. I think it's marked on Google maps but if not just take centre away from downtown til you hit Neville St, then hang a right and follow that all the way down into the hollow, once you get across the train tracks and under the bridge boundary st will be your first left. 5 minute drive from Milliones. You could probably skate it almost as fast if there was no such thing as traffic because it's basically downhill the entire way and you know how steep those hills are haha.
If you haven't been to radio yet definitely check that out if you're passing through Bloomfield and have a minute. They always have great shop tees. If you need a board or anything else just lemme know and I'll leave it with the secretary or stash it somewhere for you before I leave.
Mustafa Ali
Emma
Elias
Top Dolla
Rick Boogs
Riddick Moss
Aliyah
Shelton Benjamin
Dolph Ziggler
MACE
Mansoor
Dana Brooke
Commander Azeez aka Dabba-Kato
Shanky
Quincy Elliott
Bryson Montana
Yulisa Leon
Daniel McArthur
I guess none are super exciting and feel inevitable except Ali
Definitely see Tony Khan leaping at the chance to sign Mustafa Ali (particularly because of shared cultural background).
I think you’re thinking of BD getting his leg stuck between the ring and the ramp
Had no idea Saraya sucked as a person. She obviously didn’t strike me as a chill person though. Didn’t hear about the butt stuff, I thought it was just Xavier Woods she had a video with.
I also think she gets a pass because she came back from injury, was with Alberto Del Rio AND had the sex tape leaked
Was watching a Terry Funk shoot with corny and he told the craziest fucking story I've ever heard. Now we all know how many headshots he took and some of his stories are a little...off...like the one about a child Billy Bob Thornton jacking off a dog. This one sounded so fucking insane I assumed it was the same...then I googled it.
(https://i.redd.it/5mdq8ou6gf6b1.jpg)
Holy shit. The way Terry told it, when he got her outside he made it to the car and body slammed her on the hood before being arrested. He didn't mention the kid though.
It's so old that we can't really beg Busey for dark side on it but that has to be the absolute craziest story involving a wrestler I have ever heard. They talked about Dr. Jerry Graham not being a gimmick and being actually insane and it reminded me of something that I just know for some reason....Vince McMahon's favorite wrestler as a kid was Dr. Jerry Graham.
Anyone catch the OVW documentary on Netflix?
Expand QuoteWas watching a Terry Funk shoot with corny and he told the craziest fucking story I've ever heard. Now we all know how many headshots he took and some of his stories are a little...off...like the one about a child Billy Bob Thornton jacking off a dog. This one sounded so fucking insane I assumed it was the same...then I googled it.
(https://i.redd.it/5mdq8ou6gf6b1.jpg)
Holy shit. The way Terry told it, when he got her outside he made it to the car and body slammed her on the hood before being arrested. He didn't mention the kid though.
It's so old that we can't really beg Busey for dark side on it but that has to be the absolute craziest story involving a wrestler I have ever heard. They talked about Dr. Jerry Graham not being a gimmick and being actually insane and it reminded me of something that I just know for some reason....Vince McMahon's favorite wrestler as a kid was Dr. Jerry Graham.[close]
Cornette tells the story in this season of Dark Side! Or maybe in was Tales from the Territories? One of the two. I first heard it in this six part episode of Behind the Bastards about Vince McMahon. Fucking insane.
https://youtu.be/JLdaMY9n_Oc?si=q4jtzMZqWUCDj8vd
And yep, Saraya is dating a dude with an ongoing history of domestic abuse and other violent crimes including singing in a screamo-rap band:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/avnxkp/ronnie-radke-falling-in-reverse-worst-song-ever
Expand QuoteHad no idea Saraya sucked as a person. She obviously didn’t strike me as a chill person though. Didn’t hear about the butt stuff, I thought it was just Xavier Woods she had a video with.
I also think she gets a pass because she came back from injury, was with Alberto Del Rio AND had the sex tape leaked[close]
The one that everyone makes jokes out about was the one with Xavier where Maddox is filming them from 3 feet away like a total cuck creep, but there's like probably 20-30ish vids that got leaked where you can also see her engaging in such classy behavior as giving him a blow job while she's on the phone with someone and banging him in a public dressing room. I haven't seen them since it all went down (no pun intended) so there may be even more that I don't remember.
Interestingly, Her boyfriend now is somehow an even bigger piece of shit than Del Rio or Maddox. I'm expecting her to move on to a mass murderer next. Her family are genuine carnies and terrible people as well so it's not really a surprise that she turned out this way, but it is a little disappointing.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHad no idea Saraya sucked as a person. She obviously didn’t strike me as a chill person though. Didn’t hear about the butt stuff, I thought it was just Xavier Woods she had a video with.
I also think she gets a pass because she came back from injury, was with Alberto Del Rio AND had the sex tape leaked[close]
The one that everyone makes jokes out about was the one with Xavier where Maddox is filming them from 3 feet away like a total cuck creep, but there's like probably 20-30ish vids that got leaked where you can also see her engaging in such classy behavior as giving him a blow job while she's on the phone with someone and banging him in a public dressing room. I haven't seen them since it all went down (no pun intended) so there may be even more that I don't remember.
Interestingly, Her boyfriend now is somehow an even bigger piece of shit than Del Rio or Maddox. I'm expecting her to move on to a mass murderer next. Her family are genuine carnies and terrible people as well so it's not really a surprise that she turned out this way, but it is a little disappointing.[close]
Don't forget the video where she let Brad "finish" on the NXT women's belt.
Re: Stampede, I prolly mentioned this but yeah they always had really good heels I maybe didn’t appreciate… Ron Starr, Duke Meyers, Kerry Brown, Bad News and prolly of them all people hated Gama Singh, people in Canada were and at times still pretty racist towards Indo Canadians…..Cobra was the sickest guy…some of the matches with Bad News and Gama were the best…..
Julia is definitely improving. Considering she started with a goofy cheerleader gimmick with the Varsity Blonds, she’s definitely on an upward trajectory. Anna Jay could probably use more of a house show schedule
Expand QuoteRe: Stampede, I prolly mentioned this but yeah they always had really good heels I maybe didn’t appreciate… Ron Starr, Duke Meyers, Kerry Brown, Bad News and prolly of them all people hated Gama Singh, people in Canada were and at times still pretty racist towards Indo Canadians…..Cobra was the sickest guy…some of the matches with Bad News and Gama were the best…..[close]
Yeah that's a good point about the "diversity" of their heels. They weren't super sensitive in their treatment of Asians either....let's bring in some Japanese guys and call them the "viet-cong express" haha.
Bulldog Brown was pretty ahead of his time as a heel announcer as well, I just watched the stuff with him and Kerry winning the belts where Ed Whelan is apoplectic about them using a roll of coins to win. I think part of the reason it all works so well is Whelan is like a steady unwavering moral compass for all the great heels to feed off of.
One of the other things that I like about them is they basically had a "fall ref" with Jurgen Hermann. He was always portrayed as super inept and commentary would rip him apart for it constantly, so it kind of just got out in front of one of the common kayfabe criticisms..
Did you know Konaan wrestled there? Was pretty cool to see him very early in his career.
that's awesome, thanks! I'll watch it. I wish CBC or one of the sports channels got the queue from Vice/darkside and did short docs on local wrestling, the stories are so sick.
WrestleDream card looks solid. I may have to hit up the local AMC to catch it after dinner tonight.
Expand QuoteWrestleDream card looks solid. I may have to hit up the local AMC to catch it after dinner tonight.[close]
This “new chapter” talk is intriguing. I figure Edge will show, his contract just expire, but maybe Mercedes too?
Ok that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now
Ok that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now
Expand QuoteOk that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now[close]
Blood and Guts needs to be Adams vs Pages vs Cages
Expand QuoteOk that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now[close]
Blood and Guts needs to be Adams vs Pages vs Cages
Expand QuoteOk that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now[close]
I love that Tony bought the rights to Metalingus.
I actually liked the Nick Wayne turn.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cx7BXVps6gW/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cx7BXVps6gW/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
Undefeated. 😂
Dominik Mysterio winning back the North American NXT Championship from Trick Williams….
Dom as a heel is working. Very underwhelming coverage of Dragunov as the champ though.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOk that Edge debut was overbooked but still pretty hype.
There's officially too many dudes named Adam in AEW now[close]
I love that Tony bought the rights to Metalingus.
I actually liked the Nick Wayne turn.[close]
I was actually cool with that part even though it was kinda obvious it was coming. There were just a lot of moving parts with the whole destroying the ring and stair bumps and then sting coming out and the video and the long entrance walk with choreographed pyro and the heel tease. It kinda felt like an angle tacked on to an angle I guess.
I need to watch the Hangman Swerve match at some point, I was flipping back and forth with football and missed most of it. Those two are just on a different level in the ring and even the Twitter marks are saying it was the best match of the night. I cracked up at all the Nana clips too. We need him and Garcia and Jeff Hardy in a 3 way danceoff in the middle of the ring.Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cx7BXVps6gW/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cx7BXVps6gW/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
Undefeated. 😂[close]
LOL
Ngl I kinda have a thing for her thoughExpand QuoteDominik Mysterio winning back the North American NXT Championship from Trick Williams….
Dom as a heel is working. Very underwhelming coverage of Dragunov as the champ though.[close]
Heel Dom is a winning gimmick. Say what you will about the nepotism that definitely played a part in his push, he's been on an absolute tear since mania. His character is infinitely hateable and he's really made the most of it, especially with the whole judgement day dynamic to play off of.
Dragunov might be one of those guys who works better from a booking standpoint when he's chasing vs having a belt. Typically those smaller underdog guys lose some of their momentum once they've won it.
It seems to happen with a lot of smaller guys in the fed unfortunately. It's the land of the giants..always has been and probably always will be as long as Vince is alive. Shawn was probably the best at keeping his reigns interesting but he was still an underdog for a lot of his run at the top somehow. Undercard titles don't suffer from it as much as the top belts do, but NXT is sort of it's own thing so I guess it shouldn't be as much of an issue there. The dude can definitely work though, and they'd be nuts not to revisit the Walter matches at some point.
I watched dynamite.
Fenix looks like he's dying and I'm not sure he's just selling... he looks like his body is breaking down. Toni Storm is fuckin money in this gimmick. Strong Goldust vibes from it so you know I Iove that shit. Swerve is probably going over Danielson. I like juice but I can definitely see why he would irritate someone, especially if you've only seen him in AEW. He used to be a vanilla gaijin young lion believe it or not, so seeing him acting like a real life muppet has some surreal novelty to me. Stolen belt angles are almost always lame though.
For the dark side lovers you may enjoy this. I was going to copy paste it but its pretty long.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/tammy-sytch-sunny-declared-danger-society-florida-state-attorney
How the fuck was she out of jail weeks after she killed the dude? If she wasn't a white woman with a tiny bit of residual fame she would have been locked up and had the key thrown away about a decade ago. Absolutely shameless, both her and the system that enabled it. At least they're apparently trying to throw the book at her now, but it's Florida so she can just say she hates gay people and they'll probably pardon her.
Killed someone because her selfish ass didn't want to wait for GrubHub like a normal person. A tumbler cup, a bottle of vodka, and a fucking rotisserie chicken....what a classy broad.
Does having Cena and potentially the Undertaker on NXT feel a little desperate to win that night?
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I thought NXT moved to a different night and they aren't head to head anymore
Expand QuoteDoes having Cena and potentially the Undertaker on NXT feel a little desperate to win that night?[close]
I thought NXT moved to a different night and they aren't head to head anymore
I don't see it as any different than booking Omega or MJF on rampage. Yes it's an obvious ploy to pop a rating but it doesn't seem like there's any ulterior motives to me. It is interesting that they don't see it as a step down anymore and it's arguably their #2 show in terms of impact and fan engagement right now. Both guys were known for politicking and I imagine even in retirement would be hesitant to appear when it was seen as pretty much exclusively developmental and thus a step down in importance.
Rumors are Punk is trying to go back to the Fed but no one in the locker room really wants him there and two of their biggest stars (maybe the two biggest - Seth and Roman) have been super vocal about not liking him. It's pretty hilarious that after all the shit he's talked and bridges burned now he wants to tuck his tail and beg Vince for forgiveness. I hope they either say no thank you we have a good locker room or just embarrass the shit out of him like back in the day. Make him kiss HHH's ass on live TV.. He's really not that much of a draw or wrestler at this point and and I'm pretty sure a large part of the fanbase are just as sick of his shit or don't care at all. Wrestling does not need CM Punk.
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I thought NXT moved to a different night and they aren't head to head anymore[close]
Dynamite is on Tuesday this week due to hockey or some shit and has Edge's first AEW match, so WWE are stacking that night's NXT
Sounds like the Punk deal is as good as done. I will be laughing so hard if he fucks it up again but I have a feeling he'll somehow manage to keep his head down and get through it this time. I wonder if seeing how popular he still was, plus seeing Cody in WWE made him realise that he actually would be able to go back there and succeed, which lead him to act out in a (perhaps subconscious) attempt to get out of there
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes having Cena and potentially the Undertaker on NXT feel a little desperate to win that night?[close]
I thought NXT moved to a different night and they aren't head to head anymore[close]
Dynamite is on Tuesday this week due to hockey or some shit and has Edge's first AEW match, so WWE are stacking that night's NXT
Sounds like the Punk deal is as good as done. I will be laughing so hard if he fucks it up again but I have a feeling he'll somehow manage to keep his head down and get through it this time. I wonder if seeing how popular he still was, plus seeing Cody in WWE made him realise that he actually would be able to go back there and succeed, which lead him to act out in a (perhaps subconscious) attempt to get out of there[close]
Welp now all the sheets are back tracking on it haha...including Punks personal mouthpiece who was the one who put it out there in the first place. Either they're trying to work it for some reason or this was all just him trying to pressure them into giving him a spot so he could stick it to the mean Mr. Tony who wouldn't just let him punch anyone he didn't like. My moneys on the latter given how many people at the absolute top end of the fed these days have been very vocal about how much of a pain in the ass he was and/or wanting nothing to do with him.
They're killing it right now both financially and creatively and have plenty of actual "player/coach" types so there's zero need for Punk...the only reason to do it is to get one over on AEW but that's a pretty dumb reason to potentially piss off a large and massively valuable part of your locker room. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll trot him out for a staredown with Cena (he'd probably break his orbital staring too hard) but it seems like a lot of guys like Seth and Roman genuinely dislike the dude and I have to imagine they have some sway in the back.
Still on my stampede kick.. it's amazing how many guys were there super early in their careers. I just watched Jake vs Big Daddy Ritter (JYD) and they both look like they're fresh out of wrestling school. Jake wore trunks back then which kept tripping me out since I had assumed he was in tights or karate pants his entire career. Try mentally picturing Jake the Snake in a pair of simple black trunks... weird right?
Did Edge’s debut match feel weird to anyone else? Aside from his win, it almost felt like Jericho’s near-squash loss to Hobbs earlier that night. I suppose I’m impressed they took an adventurous route toward Edge vs. Christian storytelling—I did like the “ultimate opportunist” belt finish—but I would think they’d want their new new biggest face to look as strong as possible. I felt pretty underwhelmed waiting for it only to see him get beat up.
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Tony just lets guys like that pretty much book themselves, so given the fact he wants to be a face (wasn't that why the judgement day thing didn't work out? He wanted to be face and no spooky stuff?) I guess he was going for the struggling underdog dynamic but it definitely came off a little flat. I imagine it was supposed to be because they're still trying to build Luchasaurus, but I agree they kinda made Edge look like a weakling at points which is dumb since he's like the one dude who's almost as big and athletic. The finish was pretty tired too..I feel like that exact thing happens at least once a week between the two shows. Then the run in parade to close the show was a dumb cherry on a shitty sundae.
Unfortunately a recurring theme I've noticed in AEW is that the older guys who aren't dicks can be a little too giving and bring themselves down to their opponent instead of elevating them. Danielson is the worst about it but Moxley and Jericho do it too. You don't need 50-50 booking and a bunch of false finishes to make a guy look good... especially a guy like Luchasaurus who already looks great and can work. I absolutely love that Christian went from the guy who would "outwork everyone" to barely ever wrestling and purposely looking like shit when he did though, so I'll wait and see how it plays out before passing too much judgement.
Khan really needs to hire a booker and stop just letting everyone do what they want though. The show has this really scattershot feel to it nowadays and even if Tony might have an idea of the big picture he wants, he's obviously pretty clueless about the best route to take to get there. Also needs to get the fuck off Twitter, I think getting pummeled in the ratings h2h with supernxt may have broken him. Stop worrying about what HBK is doing and fix your own fucking shows dude.
@Mr. Kamikazi Did you enjoy it? SMW is a weird one for me because in theory I should love it, but it doesn't really do much for me for the most part. Cornette wanted a serious territory like mid South or Florida but Rick Rubin wanted some goofy Memphis inspired stuff like Prince Kharis and Ninjas and since he was paying the bills there was no overruling him. Some of the shows and angles are great (New Jack in SMW was money) and some are almost comically bad. Unfortunately a lot of it is just boring though. He somehow always managed to have announcers who felt like they were way too big for a promotion that was mostly running armory and high school gym shows - Caudle, JR, Dutch, and Lance Russell.
It is impressive that Cornette managed to get that promotion up and running in a matter of months and I believe Rubin only put like 60k up which he got a lot of mileage out of. I know modern fans who don't even listen to Cornette (but still think they know everything about both him and the business) love to bring SMW going out of business like it's some kind of dunk on him but most promoters would have gone under in a year or less. Hell even the WWF was losing money at that point.
i watched sonny two rivers vs. cobra...both japanese.....
It was tough at first but I’m just trying to take it in right now. On another note, Collision looks like it’ll be good tonight. Excited for Samoa Joe’s match.
Too soon to have Bronson losing a title match that dude should be squashing fools.
Absolutely love Gunther he is a beast.
Lexis King vignettes are 🔥. Solid character work. AEW may have dropped the ball, but the verdict is still out.
Expand QuoteLexis King vignettes are 🔥. Solid character work. AEW may have dropped the ball, but the verdict is still out.[close]
He had plenty of chances in AEW, but he just didn’t do much in the ring
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLexis King vignettes are 🔥. Solid character work. AEW may have dropped the ball, but the verdict is still out.[close]
He had plenty of chances in AEW, but he just didn’t do much in the ring[close]
Seems to be the trend with all solid character work guys from Sandow to Fiend.
Just wanted to comment on a few points that were brought up in here recently:
-loved the Gunther/Reed match for the IC title. Makes sense why Gunther won but I was still sad. Bronson Reed is one of my recent faves, and I love his Tsunami finisher, especially with how they change the camera angle for it. Great example of less-is-more working for a wrestler - he's just a mean guy who wears shades indoors, permanently has a sneer on his face, and wrestles heel. No need for promos, character development, any of that stuff.
-I am also stoked on Toni's new character work. Been watching her since Mae Young Classic and have enjoyed seeing her grow as a wrestler.
-I also agree about Dom's heel work. For someone who had a WWE opportunity handed to him on a platter, he is certainly making the most of it.
Anyone think LA Knight is going to dethrone Roman, or are they still holding out for Rock/Roman at Wrestlemania?
Completely agree on Andrade but I feel like Tony’s gun shy on him bc it seems like Andrade is never available. Maybe that’s just how Tony has used him too.saying this as a day one AEW fan who adamantly doesn't watch or support the fed, i think TK's booking and decisions in general have been piss poor the last few months or so. small example but doing ortiz vs santana on fucking rampage instead of full gear is so insanely dumb. there's legitimate heat there and one of the biggest complaints I see for AEW is the lack of story, which i agree with to an extent. that was a little off topic lol but yeah Andrade and Danielson was excellent and i'm always down to see more of Andrade
saying this as a day one AEW fan who adamantly doesn't watch or support the fed, i think TK's booking and decisions in general have been piss poor the last few months or so. small example but doing ortiz vs santana on fucking rampage instead of full gear is so insanely dumb. there's legitimate heat there and one of the biggest complaints I see for AEW is the lack of story, which i agree with to an extent. that was a little off topic lol but yeah Andrade and Danielson was excellent and i'm always down to see more of AndradeExpand QuoteCompletely agree on Andrade but I feel like Tony’s gun shy on him bc it seems like Andrade is never available. Maybe that’s just how Tony has used him too.[close]
Don’t think Regal did creative outside BCC.
Agree on the run ins and I think the answer is basically just wanting everyone to get some screen time.
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Agree on the run ins and I think the answer is basically just wanting everyone to get some screen time.[close]
I was just curious as before when I put it on, there seemed to be storylines or some consistency. I feel like once Punk was returning & the Death Triangle lost the trios titles to the Bucks & Omega (should have never happened), it became noticeably bad besides one good match per show. Again, these random Wardlow squash matches trying to make him be Goldberg, along with strange singles matches that never have any follow up are frustrating as the talent is there. Why are we not seeing Fenix every week or Andrade more? And most importantly, let's see more Samoa Joe, Malakia Black & Claudio. Claudio can be utilized way better in the singles side of things. He has talent, has a great in ring ability & is being held back by the BCC if you ask me. That faction makes no sense as none of them are English either.
I could care less about Copeland as he has been done in my world. Once he was forced out of the Judgement day, that should have been it. I was excited for his Hell in a Cell match at mania but it disappointed. I think the off script back & forth with Starks was embarrassing & just unnecessary & just made AEW feel like I was actually in a gymnasium or a farmers market watching wrestling which I do not have any desire to do.
Will Ospreay headed to the Fed?
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Agree on the run ins and I think the answer is basically just wanting everyone to get some screen time.[close]
I was just curious as before when I put it on, there seemed to be storylines or some consistency. I feel like once Punk was returning & the Death Triangle lost the trios titles to the Bucks & Omega (should have never happened), it became noticeably bad besides one good match per show. Again, these random Wardlow squash matches trying to make him be Goldberg, along with strange singles matches that never have any follow up are frustrating as the talent is there. Why are we not seeing Fenix every week or Andrade more? And most importantly, let's see more Samoa Joe, Malakia Black & Claudio. Claudio can be utilized way better in the singles side of things. He has talent, has a great in ring ability & is being held back by the BCC if you ask me. That faction makes no sense as none of them are English either.
I could care less about Copeland as he has been done in my world. Once he was forced out of the Judgement day, that should have been it. I was excited for his Hell in a Cell match at mania but it disappointed. I think the off script back & forth with Starks was embarrassing & just unnecessary & just made AEW feel like I was actually in a gymnasium or a farmers market watching wrestling which I do not have any desire to do.
Will Ospreay headed to the Fed?[close]
Fenix had to drop his belt because of Visa issues (which seems to be the case for most of the Mexican wrestlers at one time or another).
Malachi is back and is teasing some interesting feuds with Danielson/BCC. I’d love to see any of the HoB have a match with Claudio
Osprey to the Fed would surprise me. Seems like hes had a good relationship with AEW and frankly the Fed doesn’t need an upper mid guy
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDon’t think Regal did creative outside BCC.
Agree on the run ins and I think the answer is basically just wanting everyone to get some screen time.[close]
I was just curious as before when I put it on, there seemed to be storylines or some consistency. I feel like once Punk was returning & the Death Triangle lost the trios titles to the Bucks & Omega (should have never happened), it became noticeably bad besides one good match per show. Again, these random Wardlow squash matches trying to make him be Goldberg, along with strange singles matches that never have any follow up are frustrating as the talent is there. Why are we not seeing Fenix every week or Andrade more? And most importantly, let's see more Samoa Joe, Malakia Black & Claudio. Claudio can be utilized way better in the singles side of things. He has talent, has a great in ring ability & is being held back by the BCC if you ask me. That faction makes no sense as none of them are English either.
I could care less about Copeland as he has been done in my world. Once he was forced out of the Judgement day, that should have been it. I was excited for his Hell in a Cell match at mania but it disappointed. I think the off script back & forth with Starks was embarrassing & just unnecessary & just made AEW feel like I was actually in a gymnasium or a farmers market watching wrestling which I do not have any desire to do.
Will Ospreay headed to the Fed?[close]
Fenix had to drop his belt because of Visa issues (which seems to be the case for most of the Mexican wrestlers at one time or another).
Malachi is back and is teasing some interesting feuds with Danielson/BCC. I’d love to see any of the HoB have a match with Claudio
Osprey to the Fed would surprise me. Seems like hes had a good relationship with AEW and frankly the Fed doesn’t need an upper mid guy[close]
He’s already making mention of it. “It’s on the table” according to him. I feel like a match between him & Balor would be great or throw him in with Dragunov (I think they have had a match before).
Is having Becky Lynch lose to two different NxT wrestlers good for her? Is she still bulletproof as a character? Haven’t really taken much note of her lately
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I think this is due to them trying to help push the women’s division in NXT. I agree that it was quick & I still feel like Tiffany losing was a bad idea. I’m wondering if she will just head straight to RAW & start getting ready to take on Ripley as there have been subtle references to that. No one from my point of view will dethrone her at Crown Jewel. Unless they really want to push Nia Jax.
AEW finally got Flair
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Geez. This really starting to feel like WCW….
I think I read an interview or something where Tony said he had the first four champions (Jericho, Mox, Omega, Hangman) mapped out and had that all booked and planned from day one. Shit got screwy with Punks first injury, because obviously he won the belt from Hangman and Tony probably had a decent run for him booked there. From then on he has had to scramble and book on the fly, which I don't think he is qualified for. Add in Punk's return which also had future months booked and then he lost punk, Omega, and the bucks, all of which had belts and booking plans.
It's just been a comedy of errors in AEW since Punk won the belt, and now I'm kinda starting to get why WWE makes their guys work so safe and a bunch of moves are banned and no pile drivers and all that shit. AEW has to keep 100 guys ready to wrestle because 50 of them are hurt at any given time.
I think I read an interview or something where Tony said he had the first four champions (Jericho, Mox, Omega, Hangman) mapped out and had that all booked and planned from day one. Shit got screwy with Punks first injury, because obviously he won the belt from Hangman and Tony probably had a decent run for him booked there. From then on he has had to scramble and book on the fly, which I don't think he is qualified for. Add in Punk's return which also had future months booked and then he lost punk, Omega, and the bucks, all of which had belts and booking plans.
It's just been a comedy of errors in AEW since Punk won the belt, and now I'm kinda starting to get why WWE makes their guys work so safe and a bunch of moves are banned and no pile drivers and all that shit. AEW has to keep 100 guys ready to wrestle because 50 of them are hurt at any given time.
I think I read an interview or something where Tony said he had the first four champions (Jericho, Mox, Omega, Hangman) mapped out and had that all booked and planned from day one. Shit got screwy with Punks first injury, because obviously he won the belt from Hangman and Tony probably had a decent run for him booked there. From then on he has had to scramble and book on the fly, which I don't think he is qualified for. Add in Punk's return which also had future months booked and then he lost punk, Omega, and the bucks, all of which had belts and booking plans.
It's just been a comedy of errors in AEW since Punk won the belt, and now I'm kinda starting to get why WWE makes their guys work so safe and a bunch of moves are banned and no pile drivers and all that shit. AEW has to keep 100 guys ready to wrestle because 50 of them are hurt at any given time.
If you didn't watch collision last night try to watch it somewhere today. AR Fox and Jay White had a hell of a good opener to get the crowd hot and the main event was excellent. Probably the best collision main event so far and one of the best free TV ones they've had in a long time. I won't even spoil it by talking about it...just go watch it.
PM me if you need links.
Darby, Brody King, and Hook are doing a meet and greet at the FA store in Hollywood on 11.16
Samoa Joe relinquished the ROH TV title after beating Keith Lee. Really trying to get the AEW world championship from MJF or there’s some speculation he’ll leave AEW. Either way, happy he was in action last night. Penta VS Swerve was solid & full of action. Both guys sold well & while I knew Swerve would win, Penta was up until the very end. Happy they didn’t actually let Swerve unmask him like they kept mentioning. Was also wild to see Swerve pull Pentax’s tongue during a headlock.
I think Joe dropped the belt bc he already set the record for holding it and the “Two Belt+ Champ” trend from a couple of years ago proved to be a pain in the ass when you’re trying to then get the belts off them (not that I necessarily think Joe will beat MJF).
No matter how talented he is and no matter how many shares VKM sells, Logan Paul holding a title in the Fed is why I find it so difficult to ever go back to them
Big signing called for Full Gear. The released Fed guys like Ali aren’t out of their non-competes and Osprey and Mone under contract still
My guess:
Bret Hart (Bret seemed more keen on it than Tony - and new signing is described as someone EVERYONE RESPECTS and is THE GREATEST WRESTLER).
Lesser guess: Guilia. Stardom standout and is respected, but probably not necessary for this kind of announcement
Expand QuoteBig signing called for Full Gear. The released Fed guys like Ali aren’t out of their non-competes and Osprey and Mone under contract still
My guess:
Bret Hart (Bret seemed more keen on it than Tony - and new signing is described as someone EVERYONE RESPECTS and is THE GREATEST WRESTLER).
Lesser guess: Guilia. Stardom standout and is respected, but probably not necessary for this kind of announcement[close]
If it is Bret Hart or Goldberg, there will be no denying that AEW is WCW 2.0.
We shall see.
I gotta get caught up this weekend, I should be at collision next weekend so I should probably have an idea of what's going on haha.
Penta has insane physical charisma and works stiff so I'm definitely checking that out but it's kinda funny how fast Kommander went from being hyped up to "you can wrestle if Fenix can't make the show" but that's what being a one trick pony gets you. Maybe instead of doing flips off whatever you can find you learn to throw a worked punch or establish an emotional connection with fans? It doesn't help that they've brought in other guys who do lucha ropewalk shit (and arguably do it better) but I just never got the hype around him. It literally looks like a choreographed circus act to me.
I think Okada has a better chance of being at AEW than WWE. I don’t see him at the Fed at all and these NJPW guys want that nicer schedule
Expand QuoteI think Okada has a better chance of being at AEW than WWE. I don’t see him at the Fed at all and these NJPW guys want that nicer schedule[close]
He apparently is inquiring with WWE & Nakamura is apparently trying to coax him & show him that Japanese wrestlers won’t get swept under the rug like previous wrestlers from Japan. AEW can’t maintain him so even if he was higher mid card in WWE, it’d be better than him being in a random street fight 6 man tag team match or having countless matches with Danielson.
Big signing called for Full Gear. The released Fed guys like Ali aren’t out of their non-competes and Osprey and Mone under contract still
My guess:
Bret Hart (Bret seemed more keen on it than Tony - and new signing is described as someone EVERYONE RESPECTS and is THE GREATEST WRESTLER).
Lesser guess: Guilia. Stardom standout and is respected, but probably not necessary for this kind of announcement
Claudio vs Buddy Matthews Full Gear pre show should be quite good
I saw some footage from the meet and greet at the FA store and it looked pretty fun, although I did see in the comments that it was $125 for the autograph and photo package deal. I guess that is pretty standard rates if you went to a convention and met them all separately though.
You could wait in a line and get chopped by Brody King as well and that looked pretty cool.
PPV was decent enough except for the main event booking which was just a mess. Like we believed Adam Cole was magically gonna be ready to wrestle..
Gotta shout out Kota Ibushi for that awful display on the bicycle on dynamite as well. That was comically bad.
Love Love Love Toni Storm and its pretty funny that Luther is now her butler.
Why did they announce Ospreay so long before he's done with NJPW? Are they trying to get ahead of something or did TK just use it to try and push some more PPV buys? Seems it would've made more sense to announce at World's End. Maybe someone else will show up there
Why did they announce Ospreay so long before he's done with NJPW? Are they trying to get ahead of something or did TK just use it to try and push some more PPV buys? Seems it would've made more sense to announce at World's End. Maybe someone else will show up there
Mad props to WWE for how well they kept the Punk return under wraps.
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A lot of people are saying this, but did they really keep it a secret? It was a known possibility that was denied seemingly every day this week, but I think most people thought it was far-fetched enough considering Punks bad history with a lot of people involved (plus, the honeymoon after that initial pop gets shorter and shorter) and would need visual proof before they believed it anyways
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMad props to WWE for how well they kept the Punk return under wraps.[close]
A lot of people are saying this, but did they really keep it a secret? It was a known possibility that was denied seemingly every day this week, but I think most people thought it was far-fetched enough considering Punks bad history with a lot of people involved (plus, the honeymoon after that initial pop gets shorter and shorter) and would need visual proof before they believed it anyways[close]
Maybe I just spent too much time on the SquaredCircle subreddit but everyone including me seemed to think it was no way this was happening mostly due to every reputable wrestling reporter saying it flat out won’t happen.
Anyone see The Iron Claw yet? I’m planning to catch it this week since I’m off.
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Nah. I watched the Cassandro El Exotico movie instead bc it wasn’t going to be a mega-bummer
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone see The Iron Claw yet? I’m planning to catch it this week since I’m off.[close]
Nah. I watched the Cassandro El Exotico movie instead bc it wasn’t going to be a mega-bummer[close]
Iron Claw was really good. I loved their Freebirds - Von Erich’s montage set to Rush.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone see The Iron Claw yet? I’m planning to catch it this week since I’m off.[close]
Nah. I watched the Cassandro El Exotico movie instead bc it wasn’t going to be a mega-bummer[close]
Iron Claw was really good. I loved their Freebirds - Von Erich’s montage set to Rush.[close]
Part of me wants to, but part of me can’t stand Jeremy Allen White. We’ll have to see which side wins out
Samoa Joe turning on MJF. AEW continues to drop the ball on Swerve. AEW also fails to resign MJF. Samoa Joe new champ? Sure!
Expand QuoteSamoa Joe turning on MJF. AEW continues to drop the ball on Swerve. AEW also fails to resign MJF. Samoa Joe new champ? Sure![close]
I think Joe will be new champ bc MJF is pretty banged up. After getting CM Punk, I feel like the Fed can wait for MJF bc there’s not a ton of room on the upper card for him at the moment. MJF and Swerve are the top solo stars in AEW, why not stay there?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSamoa Joe turning on MJF. AEW continues to drop the ball on Swerve. AEW also fails to resign MJF. Samoa Joe new champ? Sure![close]
I think Joe will be new champ bc MJF is pretty banged up. After getting CM Punk, I feel like the Fed can wait for MJF bc there’s not a ton of room on the upper card for him at the moment. MJF and Swerve are the top solo stars in AEW, why not stay there?[close]
More money? AEW is a sinking ship? I will say I’m happy Samoa Joe won. I just hope he’s a fighting champ & we get a good storyline. Also, Kingston as a Triple Crown Champion continues to show my AEW is certainly a circus. If this was going to be the case, why bury all the talent in the contest i.e Rush & Claudio, both who are top notch. Let them get farther. Maybe let them lose instead of Moxley. He’s done it already. Just a confusing series of matches & a poor outcome.
The whole "AEW is a sinking ship" narrative is hilarious. The Monday Night Wars really fucked up people's ability to view wrestling with any form of rationality.
People often forget that WWE had a 50 year head start on AEW.
Non wrestling fans still don't even know what AEW is.
WCW was even regional and pretty low budget for years before they got the big investor and were ready to compete. When Nitro premiered they had somewhat of a built in audience already and were ready to roll.
AEW just materialized from scratch of the strength of a PPV. They just posted up and went nuts, which worked for the first 2 years when everything was going great and nobody was hurt or fighting each other backstage.
And I'm finally ready to see the end of Jericho. He is golden on commentary and should just be there from here on out. Maybe use that for an angle to pry him off the commentary for one final battle. But my god if he somehow starts another faction with Sammy G and some randoms I'm gonna lose it.
Honestly surprised he didn't shoehorn himself in as the Devil.
Another reason why all wrestling fans should watch The Iron Claw.
There is nothing new under the sun and what AEW is it’s basically what Jerry Jarrett was to some of the territories, including WCCW. In this case, Tony Kahn is Jerry Jarrett and ROH is WCCW.
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I think it’s more the irony of cheering for him because they know that his run was garbage. At the time, I was okay with it because it was “Land Of Opportunity” Smackdown where they were just trying different things. He’s not a good wrestler, he’s an okay promo, and his theme is the best thing about him.Expand QuoteJINDER[close]
Why are Fed fans into him. Are they already fooling themselves into thinking he had a great and deserved title reign?
I think it’s more the irony of cheering for him because they know that his run was garbage. At the time, I was okay with it because it was “Land Of Opportunity” Smackdown where they were just trying different things. He’s not a good wrestler, he’s an okay promo, and his theme is the best thing about him.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJINDER[close]
Why are Fed fans into him. Are they already fooling themselves into thinking he had a great and deserved title reign?[close]
I also just don’t like Tony Khan and will root against him any chance I get. To me the difference between what he’s doing and what Bischoff did 20+ years ago is Bischoff didn’t come across as whiney. TK doesn’t have the aura yet. The company is still very young, and TK can work on his presence and maybe in five more years he’ll be better at this.
Linda was in his cabinet as well.Expand QuoteI think it’s more the irony of cheering for him because they know that his run was garbage. At the time, I was okay with it because it was “Land Of Opportunity” Smackdown where they were just trying different things. He’s not a good wrestler, he’s an okay promo, and his theme is the best thing about him.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJINDER[close]
Why are Fed fans into him. Are they already fooling themselves into thinking he had a great and deserved title reign?[close]
I also just don’t like Tony Khan and will root against him any chance I get. To me the difference between what he’s doing and what Bischoff did 20+ years ago is Bischoff didn’t come across as whiney. TK doesn’t have the aura yet. The company is still very young, and TK can work on his presence and maybe in five more years he’ll be better at this.[close]
I’ll take whiny over Vince (need I go into the myriad ways he’s a piece of shit? He’s also one of Trumps best friends) and HHH (Curtain Call, Screwjob, general Kliq bullying, Chyna).
There’s no denying Vince has been a scumbag longer than most of us have been alive, they’re not continually throwing shots on Twitter with nothing to back it up. Also can’t ignore TK not addressing the Jericho allegationsExpand QuoteI think it’s more the irony of cheering for him because they know that his run was garbage. At the time, I was okay with it because it was “Land Of Opportunity” Smackdown where they were just trying different things. He’s not a good wrestler, he’s an okay promo, and his theme is the best thing about him.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJINDER[close]
Why are Fed fans into him. Are they already fooling themselves into thinking he had a great and deserved title reign?[close]
I also just don’t like Tony Khan and will root against him any chance I get. To me the difference between what he’s doing and what Bischoff did 20+ years ago is Bischoff didn’t come across as whiney. TK doesn’t have the aura yet. The company is still very young, and TK can work on his presence and maybe in five more years he’ll be better at this.[close]
I’ll take whiny over Vince (need I go into the myriad ways he’s a piece of shit? He’s also one of Trumps best friends) and HHH (Curtain Call, Screwjob, general Kliq bullying, Chyna).
There’s no denying Vince has been a scumbag longer than most of us have been alive, they’re not continually throwing shots on Twitter with nothing to back it up. Also can’t ignore TK not addressing the Jericho allegationsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI think it’s more the irony of cheering for him because they know that his run was garbage. At the time, I was okay with it because it was “Land Of Opportunity” Smackdown where they were just trying different things. He’s not a good wrestler, he’s an okay promo, and his theme is the best thing about him.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJINDER[close]
Why are Fed fans into him. Are they already fooling themselves into thinking he had a great and deserved title reign?[close]
I also just don’t like Tony Khan and will root against him any chance I get. To me the difference between what he’s doing and what Bischoff did 20+ years ago is Bischoff didn’t come across as whiney. TK doesn’t have the aura yet. The company is still very young, and TK can work on his presence and maybe in five more years he’ll be better at this.[close]
I’ll take whiny over Vince (need I go into the myriad ways he’s a piece of shit? He’s also one of Trumps best friends) and HHH (Curtain Call, Screwjob, general Kliq bullying, Chyna).[close]
I keep up with my favorites in AEW (Mox, Black, MJF), and I like when there’s competition but I think they need to give it time before they come for the crown.
Tony Khan & AEW will never come close to what Eric Bischoff ever did.
I know people hate the guy, but he spit facts on this one.
https://youtu.be/P92X8X6DAzA?si=2nHmp_3mYYqVAwaI (https://youtu.be/P92X8X6DAzA?si=2nHmp_3mYYqVAwaI)
Expand QuoteTony Khan & AEW will never come close to what Eric Bischoff ever did.[close]
Tank two promotions within a short time of joining them?
Let’s also add the fact that Sting & AEW somehow felt that it was good for wrestling that his last match (with AEW) is a tag team match w/Darby Allin against the Young Bucks….
I am certain this is because Sting cannot wrestle well anymore in a one on one as he really just does street fights which involve no technical wrestling, etc. Anyone see his recent botch this Wednesday? Powerhouse is lucky….
Mind you, grew up with Sting, loved surfer sting, dingo sting/warrior sting & most importantly, WCW Crow Sting. He had it for sure. But not now. Not at all.
Wow that Young Bucks promo was terrible.
Expand QuoteLet’s also add the fact that Sting & AEW somehow felt that it was good for wrestling that his last match (with AEW) is a tag team match w/Darby Allin against the Young Bucks….
I am certain this is because Sting cannot wrestle well anymore in a one on one as he really just does street fights which involve no technical wrestling, etc. Anyone see his recent botch this Wednesday? Powerhouse is lucky….
Mind you, grew up with Sting, loved surfer sting, dingo sting/warrior sting & most importantly, WCW Crow Sting. He had it for sure. But not now. Not at all.[close]
Apparently it was Stings choice bc Young Bucks put on great PPV matches and he was never going to do a singles bout against Darby
Okada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.
Expand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
Okada wants to be a star and Nakamura has publicly acknowledged enjoying being in the fed.
I honestly do think Tony is getting him, but you never know.
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Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
Okada wants to be a star and Nakamura has publicly acknowledged enjoying being in the fed.
I honestly do think Tony is getting him, but you never know.[close]
Okada is already a star. An AEW audience would know that from the get go (and showed it). Not sure how a fed audience would react especially without a gimmick to latch on to like Shinsuke’s theme song and general weirdness which is probably what set him apart from al the other Japanese wrestlers that never made it big there. It’s not a booking thing so much as a fan thing
Okada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
Okada wants to be a star and Nakamura has publicly acknowledged enjoying being in the fed.
I honestly do think Tony is getting him, but you never know.[close]
Okada is already a star. An AEW audience would know that from the get go (and showed it). Not sure how a fed audience would react especially without a gimmick to latch on to like Shinsuke’s theme song and general weirdness which is probably what set him apart from al the other Japanese wrestlers that never made it big there. It’s not a booking thing so much as a fan thing[close]
There’s an entirely different level to achieving stardom in the fed.
When the fed develops your star, it has long lasting implications for opportunities for future success. Look at Austin, Cena, The Rock (most overrated WWE superstar of the 4), Batista. Only one of them has previous wrestling experience with a competing organization and wasn’t brought up through the farm system.
Austin was a perpetual tv title mid-carder and tag team wrestler. WWE let him shine and helped him hone his craft to a film career. That’s what Okada wants.
Nakamura is shining beyond what he’s done in NJPW. He’s also mentioned being quite happy with life in the states working for WWE.
Expand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
I think all AEW stars want the schedule that AEW offers which has to hurt them as the heavy hitters are off tv for weeks at a time, no house shows, & appear to call the shots & write their own story lines. For Okada, this would not elevate him. There are work horses in AEW & it’s hardly the top guys. 28-1 in a whole year is laughable. Thats all he wrestled. Come on…….and what? Against jobbers in matches for under 5 minutes?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
I think all AEW stars want the schedule that AEW offers which has to hurt them as the heavy hitters are off tv for weeks at a time, no house shows, & appear to call the shots & write their own story lines. For Okada, this would not elevate him. There are work horses in AEW & it’s hardly the top guys. 28-1 in a whole year is laughable. Thats all he wrestled. Come on…….and what? Against jobbers in matches for under 5 minutes?[close]
The top guy(s) in the Fed have been part timers for about a decade.
You assume that everyone who is a pro wrestler wants to be The Rock. I think the reason all free agents except Dragon Lee have picked AEW is the freedom to wrestle anywhere and still have a life (spend time in Japan) without being ground down by a touring schedule that you have to pay for yourself. NJPW is might compete with WWF grueling schedule-wise
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
I think all AEW stars want the schedule that AEW offers which has to hurt them as the heavy hitters are off tv for weeks at a time, no house shows, & appear to call the shots & write their own story lines. For Okada, this would not elevate him. There are work horses in AEW & it’s hardly the top guys. 28-1 in a whole year is laughable. Thats all he wrestled. Come on…….and what? Against jobbers in matches for under 5 minutes?[close]
The top guy(s) in the Fed have been part timers for about a decade.
You assume that everyone who is a pro wrestler wants to be The Rock. I think the reason all free agents except Dragon Lee have picked AEW is the freedom to wrestle anywhere and still have a life (spend time in Japan) without being ground down by a touring schedule that you have to pay for yourself. NJPW is might compete with WWF grueling schedule-wise[close]
Seth Rollins was doing house shows until he legit got hurt. Same with Rhea, Cody, Ludwig, Drew. Those are the top guys & that’s not part time. Roman is & he’s an exception. Again, it’s why the company is miles above AEW. No one is 28-1….
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada done with NJPW. He’d be the biggest Rumble surprise since AJ Styles. HHH would book him right too.[close]
Japanese wrestlers seem want the AEW schedule not the Fed schedule.[close]
I think all AEW stars want the schedule that AEW offers which has to hurt them as the heavy hitters are off tv for weeks at a time, no house shows, & appear to call the shots & write their own story lines. For Okada, this would not elevate him. There are work horses in AEW & it’s hardly the top guys. 28-1 in a whole year is laughable. Thats all he wrestled. Come on…….and what? Against jobbers in matches for under 5 minutes?[close]
The top guy(s) in the Fed have been part timers for about a decade.
You assume that everyone who is a pro wrestler wants to be The Rock. I think the reason all free agents except Dragon Lee have picked AEW is the freedom to wrestle anywhere and still have a life (spend time in Japan) without being ground down by a touring schedule that you have to pay for yourself. NJPW is might compete with WWF grueling schedule-wise[close]
Seth Rollins was doing house shows until he legit got hurt. Same with Rhea, Cody, Ludwig, Drew. Those are the top guys & that’s not part time. Roman is & he’s an exception. Again, it’s why the company is miles above AEW. No one is 28-1….[close]
Brock was before that for years and years and years. They have to invent new belts bc they strap up part timers and then gut their consistent performers like Kofi when a part timer decides they want to return (see also Goldberg)
Figured I’d post rumors on a board about rumors.
https://wrestletalk.com/news/major-free-agent-choose-wwe-over-aew-kazuchika-okada/
Expand QuoteFigured I’d post rumors on a board about rumors.
https://wrestletalk.com/news/major-free-agent-choose-wwe-over-aew-kazuchika-okada/[close]
There’s an update there. I mean, the Fed making Okada start in NXT is almost too stupid to not be true
Expand QuoteFigured I’d post rumors on a board about rumors.
https://wrestletalk.com/news/major-free-agent-choose-wwe-over-aew-kazuchika-okada/[close]
There’s an update there. I mean, the Fed making Okada start in NXT is almost too stupid to not be true
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFigured I’d post rumors on a board about rumors.
https://wrestletalk.com/news/major-free-agent-choose-wwe-over-aew-kazuchika-okada/[close]
There’s an update there. I mean, the Fed making Okada start in NXT is almost too stupid to not be true[close]
NXT getting higher ratings/views than AEW on a regular basis? Sounds good for Okada!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteFigured I’d post rumors on a board about rumors.
https://wrestletalk.com/news/major-free-agent-choose-wwe-over-aew-kazuchika-okada/[close]
There’s an update there. I mean, the Fed making Okada start in NXT is almost too stupid to not be true[close]
NXT getting higher ratings/views than AEW on a regular basis? Sounds good for Okada![close]
Why does it sound good for him? He doesn’t get paid off of ratings?
He’s wrestled some of the best/biggest matches of all time, but get has to move to Florida and slum it up with a bunch of wrestlers who only know how to wrestle to make shareable videos on Twitter?
Even if he goes to the main roster, do you honestly think this will be the first time the audience cares about a Japanese wrestler? Nakumura has a weirdo gimmick, Okada will just look like Japanese Cody Rhodes and god help him if they “Hideo Itami” him.
Btw, I don’t love AEW, I just hate most things about the Fed and its presentation. AEW is far from perfect, but I never found it physically painful as I do a company where Logan Paul had a fucking title amongst many other things
Anyone justifying Okada in NXT needs to put the Crack pipe down. It would be like the Dodgers sending Ohtani to play in AAA to make a name for himself in the organization when he's already the best baseball player in the world.
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Crack is wack. Sounds like you like instant gratification & “forbidden door” nonsense.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone justifying Okada in NXT needs to put the Crack pipe down. It would be like the Dodgers sending Ohtani to play in AAA to make a name for himself in the organization when he's already the best baseball player in the world.[close]
Crack is wack. Sounds like you like instant gratification & “forbidden door” nonsense.[close]
It is nonsense to put him in the development territory It is very clear you just want to dunk on AEW in a conversation about Okada, instead of giving actual reasons for why WWE should be putting him on their C show.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone justifying Okada in NXT needs to put the Crack pipe down. It would be like the Dodgers sending Ohtani to play in AAA to make a name for himself in the organization when he's already the best baseball player in the world.[close]
Crack is wack. Sounds like you like instant gratification & “forbidden door” nonsense.[close]
It is nonsense to put him in the development territory It is very clear you just want to dunk on AEW in a conversation about Okada, instead of giving actual reasons for why WWE should be putting him on their C show.[close]
It’s not a C show. It’s a high end developmental show that does well week in & week out. And for PPV’s, some of them are better than the general ones. Okada would be new to WWE & can just benefit from doing in ring work with those are also getting their reigns in how things are done. It’s not just strong style in WWE. Yes, he’s been all over but there is 100% a formula. Furthermore, he can EASILY dominate there, get a title, & elevate himself. NXT although a developmental program regularly beats AEW & would elevate Okada to a larger wrestling base that may be touch & go.
Matt Cardona can go to AEW & have circus matches were they celebrate Texas Chainsaw massacre. Let the Indy God go for that. Okada would hopefully not want to be a part of that.
I wish Takeshita would wrestle for WWE….
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone justifying Okada in NXT needs to put the Crack pipe down. It would be like the Dodgers sending Ohtani to play in AAA to make a name for himself in the organization when he's already the best baseball player in the world.[close]
Crack is wack. Sounds like you like instant gratification & “forbidden door” nonsense.[close]
It is nonsense to put him in the development territory It is very clear you just want to dunk on AEW in a conversation about Okada, instead of giving actual reasons for why WWE should be putting him on their C show.[close]
It’s not a C show. It’s a high end developmental show that does well week in & week out. And for PPV’s, some of them are better than the general ones. Okada would be new to WWE & can just benefit from doing in ring work with those are also getting their reigns in how things are done. It’s not just strong style in WWE. Yes, he’s been all over but there is 100% a formula. Furthermore, he can EASILY dominate there, get a title, & elevate himself. NXT although a developmental program regularly beats AEW & would elevate Okada to a larger wrestling base that may be touch & go.
Matt Cardona can go to AEW & have circus matches were they celebrate Texas Chainsaw massacre. Let the Indy God go for that. Okada would hopefully not want to be a part of that.
I wish Takeshita would wrestle for WWE….[close]
I said it's their C show as in the WWE which I don't see how you could argue otherwise. I guess it would elevate his name to people who watch NXT but don't follow non-WWE one bit (if such person exists). I think Okada can look at Shinsuke as an example of how far elevating his name his name in NXT will get him in the world title picture and may not be excited by it.
I hope Okada ends up wherever he wants and is used well. its crazy once again you can't post in this thread without mentioning AEW for some reason. the WWE dickriding is crazy, they'll get along fine without their white knight defending them on the skateboard messageboards
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahon-slapped-with-trafficking-lawsuit-from-former-wwe-employee/It really adds credence to the rumor that he had Stephanie sleep with Macho Man when she was 16/17. Brock being implicated too is very unexpected, and also makes you wonder if this is why Beaverfaced Kevin Dunn dipped so quickly
Just awful.
https://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/)
This should be good.
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This should be good.[close]
I didn't realize Vince wasn't involved with the documentary anymore.
I hadn't considered this until i saw it on twitter, do you think anyone else was getting the "Brock Lesnar treatment"? I am assuming after reading Vince's insane texts it's not his first time, were Undertaker and Cena getting down with the old man? it's a shame that it happened, but hopefully there will be justice for the victim and it will stop horseshit like that from happening in the future.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/)
This should be good.[close]
I didn't realize Vince wasn't involved with the documentary anymore.
I hadn't considered this until i saw it on twitter, do you think anyone else was getting the "Brock Lesnar treatment"? I am assuming after reading Vince's insane texts it's not his first time, were Undertaker and Cena getting down with the old man? it's a shame that it happened, but hopefully there will be justice for the victim and it will stop horseshit like that from happening in the future.[close]
I can see this doc getting shut down or not including the new stuff. It’s waaaaayyy too fucked up and new and considering Netflix is now set to air Raw, I don’t think they’ll really want this association. VKM isn’t really affiliated with the Fed anymore, but most people still associate the two
There are def others than Brock. The article I saw said “other stars” and the only guy I can really think of likely is Cena considering he was the top guy, goes out of his way to defend Vince even after the shady stuff came out, and I saw his weird rules he gave that Bella twin on the Divas show, so he def has issues
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/ (https://www.ringsidenews.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahons-netflix-documentary-promises-to-give-an-unfiltered-look/)
This should be good.[close]
I didn't realize Vince wasn't involved with the documentary anymore.
I hadn't considered this until i saw it on twitter, do you think anyone else was getting the "Brock Lesnar treatment"? I am assuming after reading Vince's insane texts it's not his first time, were Undertaker and Cena getting down with the old man? it's a shame that it happened, but hopefully there will be justice for the victim and it will stop horseshit like that from happening in the future.[close]
I can see this doc getting shut down or not including the new stuff. It’s waaaaayyy too fucked up and new and considering Netflix is now set to air Raw, I don’t think they’ll really want this association. VKM isn’t really affiliated with the Fed anymore, but most people still associate the two
There are def others than Brock. The article I saw said “other stars” and the only guy I can really think of likely is Cena considering he was the top guy, goes out of his way to defend Vince even after the shady stuff came out, and I saw his weird rules he gave that Bella twin on the Divas show, so he def has issues[close]
Kudos to you for sitting through Total Divas. I couldn’t do it.
I’m sure this is really awkward for anyone related to John Laurinaitis. Lol.
This has to be why Kevin Dunn bounced.
I feel like Jim Cornette or at least someone on the Chris Van Vliet podcast has the opportunity to go Kat Williams on WWE.
Haven’t watched wrestling in a while but the ending of Fatal Fourway match felt super rushed and anticlimactic for me, like it came out of nowhere.
The Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.
Appears Punks streak of tearing his tricep at PPvS has continued and he’s out til June. Hopefully he can behave long enough to make it to next years WMIt’s time for dude to hang it up. This is what, his 3rd injury in 2 or 3 years? He came back to main event Mania and in his first match back gets injured and misses Mania. It’s a wrap. Also how funny (not actually funny) that the two from AEW to jump become injured in the first year.
It’s time for dude to hang it up. This is what, his 3rd injury in 2 or 3 years? He came back to main event Mania and in his first match back gets injured and misses Mania. It’s a wrap. Also how funny (not actually funny) that the two from AEW to jump become injured in the first year.Expand QuoteAppears Punks streak of tearing his tricep at PPvS has continued and he’s out til June. Hopefully he can behave long enough to make it to next years WM[close]
Expand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS[close]
I actually think his entry in the royal rumble was the Brock Lesnar replacement audible they had to call.
It was Bron, who had a stellar performance. Love Bron. I’m patiently waiting for him to take over on Smackdown.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS[close]
I actually think his entry in the royal rumble was the Brock Lesnar replacement audible they had to call.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS[close]
I actually think his entry in the royal rumble was the Brock Lesnar replacement audible they had to call.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS[close]
I actually think his entry in the royal rumble was the Brock Lesnar replacement audible they had to call.[close]
It was confirmed to be Bron Breakker earlier today
Are they seriously not going to tell us the names of the CMLL trio vs BCC? I seriously thought that the one guy without a mask was Daddy Magic Matt Menard so I was very confused when he came out to save Moxley. Even at the end of the show they just said trios match vs guys from CMLL at least let fans know who on the off chance they want to google a match or two.
I really want to see Matt Menard manage a team of luchadors now tho
Expand QuoteAre they seriously not going to tell us the names of the CMLL trio vs BCC? I seriously thought that the one guy without a mask was Daddy Magic Matt Menard so I was very confused when he came out to save Moxley. Even at the end of the show they just said trios match vs guys from CMLL at least let fans know who on the off chance they want to google a match or two.
I really want to see Matt Menard manage a team of luchadors now tho[close]
Volador Jr., Mistico, Hechicero & Mascara Dorada??
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Pat McAfee - Michael Cole - Corey Graves trifecta is the best thing to happen to wrestling commentary.
I popped at Pat McAfee, dropping the Jadakiss line during the fatal four way.[close]
I’ll never understand the McAfee hype. Sort of wish he got thrown out of the ring back onto/through the announce table by Omos.[close]
A Walter chop would’ve been funnier.[close]
THIS[close]
I actually think his entry in the royal rumble was the Brock Lesnar replacement audible they had to call.[close]
It was confirmed to be Bron Breakker earlier today[close]
Even better. I loved Scott Steiner’s singles run. Hope Bron can channel his uncle’s attitude even more.
Freakzills run. I’m here for it.
The best is when Bron comes out with that Dog mask & the crowd is barking. It’s such a good entrance.
Expand QuoteFreakzills run. I’m here for it.
The best is when Bron comes out with that Dog mask & the crowd is barking. It’s such a good entrance.[close]
But the powers that be called him Breaker, not Steiner.
The Rock VS Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania 40 confirmed.
Pretty wild it’s happening.
Happy to see Tiffany Stratton debut on Smackdown. A little botch on her moonsault but a good match & the crowd was behind her.
It makes sense. They have to put him through everything to win it, which he will. He will beat Rollins then beat Reigns later, possibly unifying them. Last year, as much as I wanted it, it would have been beyond predictable & nowhere near as special. From a wrestling standpoint, I don’t really care to see The Rock wrestle but if it’s ever going to happen, WM 40 is the place.He’s already fought his way back to the top. He shouldn’t have to continue to prove his worth, he won the Rumble back to back.
There could also be a chance Cody takes it an Elimination Chamber as at this point, it’s wide road of options. With or without a title, Reigns & The Rock will smash ratings.
He’s already fought his way back to the top. He shouldn’t have to continue to prove his worth, he won the Rumble back to back.Expand QuoteIt makes sense. They have to put him through everything to win it, which he will. He will beat Rollins then beat Reigns later, possibly unifying them. Last year, as much as I wanted it, it would have been beyond predictable & nowhere near as special. From a wrestling standpoint, I don’t really care to see The Rock wrestle but if it’s ever going to happen, WM 40 is the place.
There could also be a chance Cody takes it an Elimination Chamber as at this point, it’s wide road of options. With or without a title, Reigns & The Rock will smash ratings.[close]
I get that Punk was the scheduled winner until he got injured and they called the audible with Cody but why not call the audible and have Gunther win? That leaves Roman open. Gunther could have won, lost the IC title some way, beat Rollins (which would give Rollins time to rest because dude needs it) then Gunther can feud with whoever.
Pretty sure Malachi is 100% behind his corny promos. Check his “lore” talk around the end of his Fed run.
Buddy’s ceiling is higher in AeW than Fed. He’s not going to automatically get a rocket strapped to him. He peaked as 205live champ in their eyes which is why they let him go.
I’m fine with the content, I’m just saying they could be done better. A WWE writer could help with that….
Expand QuoteHe’s already fought his way back to the top. He shouldn’t have to continue to prove his worth, he won the Rumble back to back.Expand QuoteIt makes sense. They have to put him through everything to win it, which he will. He will beat Rollins then beat Reigns later, possibly unifying them. Last year, as much as I wanted it, it would have been beyond predictable & nowhere near as special. From a wrestling standpoint, I don’t really care to see The Rock wrestle but if it’s ever going to happen, WM 40 is the place.
There could also be a chance Cody takes it an Elimination Chamber as at this point, it’s wide road of options. With or without a title, Reigns & The Rock will smash ratings.[close]
I get that Punk was the scheduled winner until he got injured and they called the audible with Cody but why not call the audible and have Gunther win? That leaves Roman open. Gunther could have won, lost the IC title some way, beat Rollins (which would give Rollins time to rest because dude needs it) then Gunther can feud with whoever.[close]
I think Gunther is next in line. Unsure as to how with the Cody story. Again, I was simply saying putting Cody through everything, including these missteps (kayfabe to some extent) make him a stronger face. It’s wild as everyone wanted the Rock VS Reigns & now, everyone is upset. I was never a fan of that but again, now it’s real & it’s getting backlash.
I could also see Cody winning the Heavyweight championship & eventually the the Universal championship which is supposedly being renamed the WWE championship again. Then it’d go back to 1 title and this would allow Cody to “take everything” from Reigns as per his promo.
Granted it’s sort of a new time in WWE, but I really struggle seeing them make Walter be the top guy in the company. He’ll hold the 2nd heavyweight title, but he does not strike me as bankable in the way the Fed likes their top guy, the kind of guy who will go out and do press and shill. Would like to be wrong
Expand QuoteGranted it’s sort of a new time in WWE, but I really struggle seeing them make Walter be the top guy in the company. He’ll hold the 2nd heavyweight title, but he does not strike me as bankable in the way the Fed likes their top guy, the kind of guy who will go out and do press and shill. Would like to be wrong[close]
You will be wrong. He is already there. He’s even getting cheered too. He’s talented in the ring, already great promo skills & anyone he goes against looks good doing & it elevates them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGranted it’s sort of a new time in WWE, but I really struggle seeing them make Walter be the top guy in the company. He’ll hold the 2nd heavyweight title, but he does not strike me as bankable in the way the Fed likes their top guy, the kind of guy who will go out and do press and shill. Would like to be wrong[close]
You will be wrong. He is already there. He’s even getting cheered too. He’s talented in the ring, already great promo skills & anyone he goes against looks good doing & it elevates them.[close]
I think he’s a star and is great, but remember when they wouldn’t pull the trigger on Braun at his hottest and the long list of legendary wrestlers that never held the belt bc they existed to be fed to their Top Guy. Cody is THAT guy next.
**I don’t think he won’t get strapped up, he’ll just never be the guy and any reign he has will be as meaningful as Drew dethroning Lesnar.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGranted it’s sort of a new time in WWE, but I really struggle seeing them make Walter be the top guy in the company. He’ll hold the 2nd heavyweight title, but he does not strike me as bankable in the way the Fed likes their top guy, the kind of guy who will go out and do press and shill. Would like to be wrong[close]
You will be wrong. He is already there. He’s even getting cheered too. He’s talented in the ring, already great promo skills & anyone he goes against looks good doing & it elevates them.[close]
I think he’s a star and is great, but remember when they wouldn’t pull the trigger on Braun at his hottest and the long list of legendary wrestlers that never held the belt bc they existed to be fed to their Top Guy. Cody is THAT guy next.
**I don’t think he won’t get strapped up, he’ll just never be the guy and any reign he has will be as meaningful as Drew dethroning Lesnar.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGranted it’s sort of a new time in WWE, but I really struggle seeing them make Walter be the top guy in the company. He’ll hold the 2nd heavyweight title, but he does not strike me as bankable in the way the Fed likes their top guy, the kind of guy who will go out and do press and shill. Would like to be wrong[close]
You will be wrong. He is already there. He’s even getting cheered too. He’s talented in the ring, already great promo skills & anyone he goes against looks good doing & it elevates them.[close]
I think he’s a star and is great, but remember when they wouldn’t pull the trigger on Braun at his hottest and the long list of legendary wrestlers that never held the belt bc they existed to be fed to their Top Guy. Cody is THAT guy next.
**I don’t think he won’t get strapped up, he’ll just never be the guy and any reign he has will be as meaningful as Drew dethroning Lesnar.[close]
As far as Braun, never a fan. Hate his new look, tag team nonsense. Boring. He also looks like a CrossFit new age kook. WWE should have been put in a Kaneesque gimmick, probably with a mask. When he comes back, I hope he is on a different tip.
Can we at least agree that shoe-horning in Cody into a triple threat like he’s Daniel Bryan is terrible move?It’d be such bad booking. I really don’t know how they’re going to get out of this.
It’d be such bad booking. I really don’t know how they’re going to get out of this.Expand QuoteCan we at least agree that shoe-horning in Cody into a triple threat like he’s Daniel Bryan is terrible move?[close]
If Cody goes for Seth then Cody ends up looking like a bitch, if Seth loses he looks like a fukin idiot for egging on the dude who has beat him every time they’ve wrestled in the past two years.
But on a positive note Trick v Dragunov was pretty great. Trick still has room to improve in ring but I say he’s on the main roster within the next two years. Also crazy that commentary said that Kofimania is the moment that made Trick want to be a wrestler, that wasn’t that long ago
Expand QuoteIt’d be such bad booking. I really don’t know how they’re going to get out of this.Expand QuoteCan we at least agree that shoe-horning in Cody into a triple threat like he’s Daniel Bryan is terrible move?[close]
If Cody goes for Seth then Cody ends up looking like a bitch, if Seth loses he looks like a fukin idiot for egging on the dude who has beat him every time they’ve wrestled in the past two years.
But on a positive note Trick v Dragunov was pretty great. Trick still has room to improve in ring but I say he’s on the main roster within the next two years. Also crazy that commentary said that Kofimania is the moment that made Trick want to be a wrestler, that wasn’t that long ago[close]
Again, I think it’s only going to make Cody look bigger in the end. Call me a Mark by I’ve come to trust the writers as everything I’ve really questioned works out in a direction I like. Again, I just think if Cody went straight to Roman, it’d have been so predictable. I’m not a huge fan of knowing the outcome. Maybe not in this case as Cody is not my top watch. Nor is Roman.
Dragunov VS Trick was 10/10. I really wish Dragunov would move up & dethrone Gunther. Trick rules & Heel Melo is going to solidify him for me. Always liked him but something seemed off. I also think he needs some ringwork too as I still think about how Bron saved him from botching to what looked like a potential broken neck during a dive to the outside.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’d be such bad booking. I really don’t know how they’re going to get out of this.Expand QuoteCan we at least agree that shoe-horning in Cody into a triple threat like he’s Daniel Bryan is terrible move?[close]
If Cody goes for Seth then Cody ends up looking like a bitch, if Seth loses he looks like a fukin idiot for egging on the dude who has beat him every time they’ve wrestled in the past two years.
But on a positive note Trick v Dragunov was pretty great. Trick still has room to improve in ring but I say he’s on the main roster within the next two years. Also crazy that commentary said that Kofimania is the moment that made Trick want to be a wrestler, that wasn’t that long ago[close]
Again, I think it’s only going to make Cody look bigger in the end. Call me a Mark by I’ve come to trust the writers as everything I’ve really questioned works out in a direction I like. Again, I just think if Cody went straight to Roman, it’d have been so predictable. I’m not a huge fan of knowing the outcome. Maybe not in this case as Cody is not my top watch. Nor is Roman.
Dragunov VS Trick was 10/10. I really wish Dragunov would move up & dethrone Gunther. Trick rules & Heel Melo is going to solidify him for me. Always liked him but something seemed off. I also think he needs some ringwork too as I still think about how Bron saved him from botching to what looked like a potential broken neck during a dive to the outside.[close]
You’re not a mark, you’re just one of the “let the story play out” people that get mocked after shit like Brock squashing Kofi or other short-sighted shit the Fed does
Predictable isn’t bad. An ending should be predictable if you’ve told the story correctly. Not everything needs a swoop or twist and judging by the fans last year and this year, people are fucking ready for Cody to win. But the Fed loves a “moment” more than anything else.
If Cody learned anything from his father, people get fucking sick of a Dusty Finish/chase after a while and people will lose their faith in this company, with a documented 40 year history, of not pulling the trigger. Memes a plenty about the shit that happened to CM Punk with the Rock and now happening all over again should tell you that you relying on the Fed to tell a complete story despite a demonstrated inability to do so.
And as I predicted, WWE is already owning that this was a move to push Cody as a babyface even more & it’s working. It’s the talk of the town.
Expand QuoteAnd as I predicted, WWE is already owning that this was a move to push Cody as a babyface even more & it’s working. It’s the talk of the town.[close]
Well what else can they do. Cody was already the top baby face. By the rationale they needed him to be even more of a face? That’s just sloppy storytelling bc they’re trying to have their cake and eat it too bc they couldn’t get the Rock a year or so ago when the Head of the Table Samoan thing was still going on and would have actually made sense.
Roman isn’t dropping it until he beats Hogans record, so it’s all meaningless until that happens.
I could also see Cody winning the Heavyweight championship & eventually the the Universal championship which is supposedly being renamed the WWE championship again. Then it’d go back to 1 title and this would allow Cody to “take everything” from Reigns as per his promo.
Expand QuoteI could also see Cody winning the Heavyweight championship & eventually the the Universal championship which is supposedly being renamed the WWE championship again. Then it’d go back to 1 title and this would allow Cody to “take everything” from Reigns as per his promo.[close]
Unifying two belts, one of which is already a unification of two belts that they painted themselves so deeply into a corner that that had to make a new belt, then unifying them again would be sloppy.
Clunky idea but what about Cody somehow gets two shots, night 1 against Seth, and loses, making Seth look good along with the belt. Same night is Roman vs. the Rock and Roman wins. Next night is Cody, looking rough and beat down vs. Roman coming off high as hell on beating the Rock, Cody pulls it out and wins, then defends it against Rock at the next PPV.
Well it looks like they are going with Cody vs Roman. Weird to see WWE listening to the fans, but I guess that really tells you the MacMahons are gone
Big Business in Boston is obviously for Sasha Banks/Mercedes, but naming wise, it also makes sense for the Rainmaker to debut
Well Billy Jack Haynes def wants to be in Darkside of the Ring
Expand QuoteWell Billy Jack Haynes def wants to be in Darkside of the Ring[close]
Yeah I saw that this morning so damn crazy.
Tiffany Stratton should have won the Elimination Chamber. What a showing. She honestly made everyone in the match look subpar. For her first elimination chamber, she looked like a veteran.
Becky & Rhea at Wrestlemania…..I really hope Lynch doesn’t win…..
AEW really named a match “Meat Madness”. ⏸️
Expand QuoteAEW really named a match “Meat Madness”. ⏸️[close]
Big E made that humor possible
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAEW really named a match “Meat Madness”. ⏸️[close]
Big E made that humor possible[close]
My favorite Big E moment that the stupid crowd ruined.
https://youtu.be/-am1A02pk_w?si=1h5XQBMA4_sG0TAZ (https://youtu.be/-am1A02pk_w?si=1h5XQBMA4_sG0TAZ)
Expand QuoteTiffany Stratton should have won the Elimination Chamber. What a showing. She honestly made everyone in the match look subpar. For her first elimination chamber, she looked like a veteran.
Becky & Rhea at Wrestlemania…..I really hope Lynch doesn’t win…..[close]
The only physically believable person to beat Rhea is Jade, but Becky should maybe win to at least give Rhea the fight back/chase program. Becky feels a little bit like yesterday’s news from my removed vantage point and could use some heat
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteTiffany Stratton should have won the Elimination Chamber. What a showing. She honestly made everyone in the match look subpar. For her first elimination chamber, she looked like a veteran.
Becky & Rhea at Wrestlemania…..I really hope Lynch doesn’t win…..[close]
The only physically believable person to beat Rhea is Jade, but Becky should maybe win to at least give Rhea the fight back/chase program. Becky feels a little bit like yesterday’s news from my removed vantage point and could use some heat[close]
Jade was pulled because of her poor performance at the Rumble which was beyond noticeable.
Tiffany has the fans behind her too. She was the only one the fans were behind at the chamber. She’s over on everyone, even Liv Morgan who continues to codebreaker everyone & keep talking about revenge. Terrible gimmick. Looks like a sad clown in the ring.
I guess you wouldn’t know @Atiba Applebum since you don’t watch NXT but Tiffy gave Becky one hell of a time in the match where she lost (Tiffany dropped it to get bumped to Smackdown). She is fully capable of giving Rhea a run for her money. And I’m a huge Ripley fan.
Agree with you 100% on Eddie and Danielson.
Danielson is universally accepted as one of the best to ever do it and he loses to that guy?????
I'm always down for an underdog / blue collar hero but it has to end somewhere. My only hang up is that he is incredibly over with the crowd and a lot of peoples complaints about WWE is not listening to fans when certain wrestlers are incredibly popular. So although Khan is probably giving the people what they want, the people are just wrong on this one.
My problems with AEW right now is lack of great stories, and the sheer number of title belts that are featured in the company. Everyone is a champion from somewhere. It's almost as if AEW is just a wrestling variety show, featuring global talent from many different places. A secondary belt for the women is not necessary. How is there a faction with two different sets of 6-man title holders? Silly.
Expand QuoteAgree with you 100% on Eddie and Danielson.
Danielson is universally accepted as one of the best to ever do it and he loses to that guy?????
I'm always down for an underdog / blue collar hero but it has to end somewhere. My only hang up is that he is incredibly over with the crowd and a lot of peoples complaints about WWE is not listening to fans when certain wrestlers are incredibly popular. So although Khan is probably giving the people what they want, the people are just wrong on this one.
My problems with AEW right now is lack of great stories, and the sheer number of title belts that are featured in the company. Everyone is a champion from somewhere. It's almost as if AEW is just a wrestling variety show, featuring global talent from many different places. A secondary belt for the women is not necessary. How is there a faction with two different sets of 6-man title holders? Silly.[close]
Nothing wrong with a show that features great wrestlers from around the world. But it does seem like they’re about to start a new season post-PPV, so hopefully the belts get sorted that way. Okada might appear this week
Okada debuted tonight as part of the Elite & sent after Kingston. You think Kingston will go over Okada? Come on! It’s AEW! This could happen….
Expand QuoteOkada debuted tonight as part of the Elite & sent after Kingston. You think Kingston will go over Okada? Come on! It’s AEW! This could happen….[close]
So him being the Japanese version of Cody Rhodes is better?
Could be worse, he could be debuting in NXT as Yoshi St James
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada debuted tonight as part of the Elite & sent after Kingston. You think Kingston will go over Okada? Come on! It’s AEW! This could happen….[close]
So him being the Japanese version of Cody Rhodes is better?
Could be worse, he could be debuting in NXT as Yoshi St James[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOkada debuted tonight as part of the Elite & sent after Kingston. You think Kingston will go over Okada? Come on! It’s AEW! This could happen….[close]
So him being the Japanese version of Cody Rhodes is better?
Could be worse, he could be debuting in NXT as Yoshi St James[close][close]
Hahaha, spot on with the name. They’d Kerwin White him for sure.
I think HHH has more reverence for Japanese wrestlers vs VKM.
On a positive side - Dark Side of the Ring starts this week with the Natural Disasters and there's some pretty great footage on their IG of Haku seeing the Shockmaster for the very first time.
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On a positive side - Dark Side of the Ring starts this week with the Natural Disasters and there's some pretty great footage on their IG of Haku seeing the Shockmaster for the very first time.[close]
I suspect they'll do an episode on Haku as well. I remember seeing John Tenta in our local territory and he wasn't very impressive, he learned pretty quickly and that's WWF for you, big dudes and some mid gimmicks....worked though.
Not sure if Haku has a Dark Side, he is still alive and seems to be doing OK.
I do know that if you listen to shoot interviews from dudes of that era, they pretty much unanimously agree that Haku was the one person in the locker room no one wanted to fight for real. He was a legitimate tough guy that could really do some damage, like biting off a nose for example.
they haven't done one, but they tend to use the same people commenting within each season....he's wrestling's Bolo.....
Excited for Angle & Gordy.
Flair often commented on Haku being the most intimidating in the locker room. I remember him as a kid too & just seeing him as Meng w/ the barbarian & being shocked.
Wonder if Mone will be debuting tomorrow.
Zayne VS Gunther at Wrestlemania; a tad upset Gable lost but I have a feeling he will end up in the event & it’ll be a triple threat.
I’m loving Karrion Kross’s Sean O’Haire throwback character.
Really hoping he foreshadowed the Montez Ford HBK heel turn in that one backstage promo he cut.
It’s hitting me that I’m crossing a childhood bucket list item going to both nights of Wrestlemania in about 3 weeks.
Got my Primitive DX shirt and my ToPX P-Generation X hoodie ready.
MLW is doing a big live show here in Tampa soon, I might go check it out.
Expand QuoteIt’s hitting me that I’m crossing a childhood bucket list item going to both nights of Wrestlemania in about 3 weeks.
Got my Primitive DX shirt and my ToPX P-Generation X hoodie ready.[close]
Man I feel this so hard. I got to do it in Tampa a few years ago and I'm not scared to admit that i teared up a little bit. A boyhood dream coming true at the grandest stage of them all. It was emotional. So many years of my life invested in a product.
I just need to go to a SummerSlam and I'll have the big 4 PPV's checked off.
Love that AEW has given Paige/Saraya’s brother a place to wrestle, if you’re at all familiar with the family’s story
Cardona & Copeland……..
Come on! This is what people want?!
Expand QuoteCardona & Copeland……..
Come on! This is what people want?![close]
Opens where anyone can show up are fun. Cody’s had the added benefit of helping indy wrestlers in the pandemic
Shout out to my people who kept this thread alive during my 3 year hiatus. Fuck yeah
I can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.
Expand QuoteI can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.[close]
Lucky man. I’ve always wanted to go to Mania. Had a buddy that went to 35 and he met HBK and Foley through fan access
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.[close]
Lucky man. I’ve always wanted to go to Mania. Had a buddy that went to 35 and he met HBK and Foley through fan access[close]
I'd be hyped to meet both. HBK is my all time favorite and I’d love to have Foley sign my copy of the baseball novel he wrote.
After Mania, I just have a Summerslam to go to to complete the 4 main ppv’s.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.[close]
Lucky man. I’ve always wanted to go to Mania. Had a buddy that went to 35 and he met HBK and Foley through fan access[close]
I'd be hyped to meet both. HBK is my all time favorite and I’d love to have Foley sign my copy of the baseball novel he wrote.
After Mania, I just have a Summerslam to go to to complete the 4 main ppv’s.[close]
Are you close to Philly? That would be a great spot to see live events considering they come through PA quite often. I’ve seen almost every live event in the WV area in the past 20 years. Live in the Nashville area now so hoping to see them come through more
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.[close]
Lucky man. I’ve always wanted to go to Mania. Had a buddy that went to 35 and he met HBK and Foley through fan access[close]
I'd be hyped to meet both. HBK is my all time favorite and I’d love to have Foley sign my copy of the baseball novel he wrote.
After Mania, I just have a Summerslam to go to to complete the 4 main ppv’s.[close]
Are you close to Philly? That would be a great spot to see live events considering they come through PA quite often. I’ve seen almost every live event in the WV area in the past 20 years. Live in the Nashville area now so hoping to see them come through more[close]
I live in Philly. Used to go to ECW shows back in the day.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't wait til this weekend. I may have to tailgate both nights.
Can't go to NXT stand and deliver or ROH even though tix are like $20.
But it still hasn't fully hit me that I'm going to both nights of Mania.[close]
Lucky man. I’ve always wanted to go to Mania. Had a buddy that went to 35 and he met HBK and Foley through fan access[close]
I'd be hyped to meet both. HBK is my all time favorite and I’d love to have Foley sign my copy of the baseball novel he wrote.
After Mania, I just have a Summerslam to go to to complete the 4 main ppv’s.[close]
Are you close to Philly? That would be a great spot to see live events considering they come through PA quite often. I’ve seen almost every live event in the WV area in the past 20 years. Live in the Nashville area now so hoping to see them come through more[close]
I live in Philly. Used to go to ECW shows back in the day.[close]
Damn I used to watch ECW via my dad’s tape trading with friends in Pittsburgh. What was it like back then? Met anyone? I need the good stories bro lol
Was it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it
Expand QuoteWas it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it[close]
They featured part of the show during the TV taping’s, but it wasn’t the tag team match. It was some thing with Raven and Richards.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWas it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it[close]
They featured part of the show during the TV taping’s, but it wasn’t the tag team match. It was some thing with Raven and Richards.[close]
BWO was great. Speaking of Richards, RTC was underrated as well. Great heel gimmick that was genuinely annoying.
Raven was great in ECW but his potential was wasted in WWF. WCW at least gave him the Flock
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWas it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it[close]
They featured part of the show during the TV taping’s, but it wasn’t the tag team match. It was some thing with Raven and Richards.[close]
BWO was great. Speaking of Richards, RTC was underrated as well. Great heel gimmick that was genuinely annoying.
Raven was great in ECW but his potential was wasted in WWF. WCW at least gave him the Flock[close]
RTC was great.
Raven’s WCW run was his best work. His DDT also looked it's best in WCW once he figured out how to take the back bump to give it that lethal snap motion.
Also loved his drop toehold into the chair.
Was not a fan of mascara, dreadlocks, and kilt Raven.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWas it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it[close]
They featured part of the show during the TV taping’s, but it wasn’t the tag team match. It was some thing with Raven and Richards.[close]
BWO was great. Speaking of Richards, RTC was underrated as well. Great heel gimmick that was genuinely annoying.
Raven was great in ECW but his potential was wasted in WWF. WCW at least gave him the Flock[close]
RTC was great.
Raven’s WCW run was his best work. His DDT also looked it's best in WCW once he figured out how to take the back bump to give it that lethal snap motion.
Also loved his drop toehold into the chair.
Was not a fan of mascara, dreadlocks, and kilt Raven.[close]
How did you feel about the WCW cruiserweight division? Probably the most overlooked part of the Attitude Era imo
Mysterio, Eddie, Malenko, Ultimo Dragon, Jericho, La Parka, Psicosis, Lizmark Jr, Hector Garza, so many entertaining matches
I’m also a big Scorpio fan and his matches in ECW are some of the best
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWas it during the ECW Hardcore TV tapings? Might try to look for it[close]
They featured part of the show during the TV taping’s, but it wasn’t the tag team match. It was some thing with Raven and Richards.[close]
BWO was great. Speaking of Richards, RTC was underrated as well. Great heel gimmick that was genuinely annoying.
Raven was great in ECW but his potential was wasted in WWF. WCW at least gave him the Flock[close]
RTC was great.
Raven’s WCW run was his best work. His DDT also looked it's best in WCW once he figured out how to take the back bump to give it that lethal snap motion.
Also loved his drop toehold into the chair.
Was not a fan of mascara, dreadlocks, and kilt Raven.[close]
How did you feel about the WCW cruiserweight division? Probably the most overlooked part of the Attitude Era imo
Mysterio, Eddie, Malenko, Ultimo Dragon, Jericho, La Parka, Psicosis, Lizmark Jr, Hector Garza, so many entertaining matches
I’m also a big Scorpio fan and his matches in ECW are some of the best[close]
Loved the WCW cruiserweight division, especially Psicosos and Ultimo Dragon. Malenko and Psicosis always put on a good match.
I loved Scorpio during his WCW run before ECW back in the early 90’s. His match vs Benoit at Superbrawl 3 is one of the most underrated matches of all time.
Zayne! Well, Gunther, please move onto the Heavyweight championship soon.Agreed! favourite match so far, getting a bit of Hogan vibes from the rock, ball punch to tripping into turnbuckle made me laugh, still cool to see him back
match picked up I was hating, crazy roided up tho not a fan of thatAgreed! favourite match so far, getting a bit of Hogan vibes from the rock, ball punch to tripping into turnbuckle made me laugh, still cool to see him backExpand QuoteZayne! Well, Gunther, please move onto the Heavyweight championship soon.[close]
I, too, had a Mox moment.
I liked both main events and the big celebration for Cody’s win felt great. Felt like the mark of a turning point for WWE. Was hoping for Stone Cold in Undertaker’s spot but that was good too.
Was worried Sami’s win would be soured by people wanting Chad Gable, but it went well. Brainbuster on the turnbuckle was amazing. Couldn’t help but think it felt like a dig on AEW following the Takeshita and Osprey match.
Hunter really is cooking.
Expand QuoteI, too, had a Mox moment.
I liked both main events and the big celebration for Cody’s win felt great. Felt like the mark of a turning point for WWE. Was hoping for Stone Cold in Undertaker’s spot but that was good too.
Was worried Sami’s win would be soured by people wanting Chad Gable, but it went well. Brainbuster on the turnbuckle was amazing. Couldn’t help but think it felt like a dig on AEW following the Takeshita and Osprey match.[close]
In a perfect world, there would be a Mox and a Dustin run-in
I genuinely can't tell if you're trolling with your posts in here. They read like one of those twitter accounts called @AEWIZGAY is whatever
Expand QuoteHunter really is cooking.[close]
That he is. That might be the best WM since before covid. Vince should’ve stepped away a long time ago
Expand QuoteI genuinely can't tell if you're trolling with your posts in here. They read like one of those twitter accounts called @AEWIZGAY is whatever[close]
Not at all. That’s not my intention. Listen, I watch it, I own many AEW figures (I’m a wrestling action figure collector) & know when it’s good. But resorting to nonsense like airing videos of fights & continuing to have a lack of storylines make it a very difficult product to enjoy. I still think of that leather face/TCS match which was embarrassing. Reminds me of the Demon garbage in WCW. I’m a fan of almost 30 years. Do I like most Indy wrestling? No, it’s a bad circus to me. Can AEW be better? Yes. Why it’s not? I’m unsure. Lack of writers? Too many egos? Not sure.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI genuinely can't tell if you're trolling with your posts in here. They read like one of those twitter accounts called @AEWIZGAY is whatever[close]
Not at all. That’s not my intention. Listen, I watch it, I own many AEW figures (I’m a wrestling action figure collector) & know when it’s good. But resorting to nonsense like airing videos of fights & continuing to have a lack of storylines make it a very difficult product to enjoy. I still think of that leather face/TCS match which was embarrassing. Reminds me of the Demon garbage in WCW. I’m a fan of almost 30 years. Do I like most Indy wrestling? No, it’s a bad circus to me. Can AEW be better? Yes. Why it’s not? I’m unsure. Lack of writers? Too many egos? Not sure.[close]
Were you ever that harsh with WWE? It was hot garbage for about 15 years and it wasn’t too long ago they did a zombie battle royale and Seth Rollins fake took Rey Misterio’s eye amongst many many other dumb decisions.
The vid they’re showing is at least going to be presented as storyline and never would have been brought up if CM punk just kept his mouth shut
Young Bucks and FTR did well for what it's worth.
Awful decision by TK to air that, I am also starting to think they need some new writers everything has been flat since the Sting retirement
Yes, I was agreeing with your previous comment. Stings retirement has been the only thing of interest they have done recently, and it's not like someones retirement is a stroke of creative geniusExpand QuoteYoung Bucks and FTR did well for what it's worth.
Awful decision by TK to air that, I am also starting to think they need some new writers everything has been flat since the Sting retirement[close]
They needed new writers well before this nonsense.
Yes, I was agreeing with your previous comment. Stings retirement has been the only thing of interest they have done recently, and it's not like someones retirement is a stroke of creative geniusExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYoung Bucks and FTR did well for what it's worth.
Awful decision by TK to air that, I am also starting to think they need some new writers everything has been flat since the Sting retirement[close]
They needed new writers well before this nonsense.[close]
I’ll say this much about AEW. Every PPV they have, I think, “damn, they’re really making this card up as they go, huh?” and then every match rules. Even with the great stuff going on at WWE right now, I still find myself much more gripped watching a random AEW match top to bottom than most WWE matches. I don’t know if it’s the production or WWE’s terrible history of terrible people or what but something continues to grip me to AEW more than WWE usually.
That said, AEW is looking like a mess lately. I’ve always liked the indie vibe and freedom for wrestlers to do what they want, but every time a Saraya or an Adam Copeland or a Mercedes Mone debuts like they’re going to take the company up a notch, they never quite do. Maybe Toni Storm will. She rules.
I say this because I want AEW to last because I love it. And seeing people like Lance Archer or Britt Baker disappear for months at a time because Tony has too many people that he doesn’t know what to do with them sucks. And this desperate CM Punk footage release feels like AEW’s version of WCW spoiling Mankind’s world title win.
I think hiring a legit booker/writing team who has more time than Tony to dedicate to the show could work wonders.
I would absolutely jump on whatever streaming service AEW is on. I’ve been bootlegging their shit for years. Who even watches actual TV these days? Old people who don’t get what’s rad about AEW, that’s who.
Saw an image of Smackdown last night and thought Andrade was getting involved with Heyman, but apparently Tama Tonga looks incredibly like him
Standing up for Nyla and trans rights and booking RVD to wrestle on 4/20 are things that should outweigh the negatives people have for Tony K
I missed Dynasty last night but it looks like a lot happened.
Jack Perry returns.
Willow over Julia
SWERVE NEW CHAMP
Anybody watch?
Standing up for Nyla and trans rights and booking RVD to wrestle on 4/20 are things that should outweigh the negatives people have for Tony K
Expand QuoteStanding up for Nyla and trans rights and booking RVD to wrestle on 4/20 are things that should outweigh the negatives people have for Tony K[close]
Him being a good person & providing nostalgia occasionally is separate from being a bad Booker & losing his mind on twitter, along with writing scripts for Will Ospreay to talk about the grind. Also, most people I’ve talked agree with the gripes of him/AEW that are outside of Cornette’s podcast. I’ve listened to only a few episodes & they aren’t about AEW.