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Thinking of picking up some 97a conical fulls for indoor park skating this winter. Are they worth it, how much of a difference do they make?
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I have these and honestly, if you’re talking wooden indoor park this is about the only place they actually felt slow.... they roll everywhere else amazingly well.
Same rule of thumb with smooth indoors to smooth outdoor parks I think, harder will always feel faster
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I am a 97a devotee, but yeah, skateparks are where these wheels perform their absolute worst, though I suppose it depends on what type of park we are talking about. On a bunch of wood ramps in the basement of the YMCA, maybe they're great. They're definitely a little slower than a 101 on the glass-smooth concrete of a modern skatepark, but they roll incredibly in my local parking garage, asphalt slappy spots, and around the weather-damaged streets and sidewalks.
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These keep their speed everywhere. Just a hair softer to keep the grimy spots at bay and hard enough to slide proper. Nose, tail, and lip slides are good to go. Best ATV wheels without giving up speed or sacrificing durability.
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These are some of the best wheels I've ever used. I skate a lot of crusty easy coast spots. They're great. They're good at the concrete park too. Grippy but still slide.
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Skated these since April in 54 mm. I think they’re great. They somehow simultaneously grip the ground well riding fast and turning but also slide well on noseslides/tailslides/etc. on ledges. They also don’t feel bouncy like some soft wheels do when popping and landing. I mostly skate crustier spots but I could see where they would feel a bit slow from the handful of concrete parks I’ve skated. If you’re skating all terrain they might be the best overall option.
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I skated a set this summer. Best street wheels by far IMO. The streets around here are rather crusty. Pebbles also are way less of an issue with these than 99A F4s. There aren’t that many smooth parks around here but I skated one concrete park this summer with them and they felt pretty damn slow compared to 99A F4s. In my opinion the 97A and 99A slide pretty much exactly the same so getting these for more grip isn’t gonna help. I’ll be going with 99A for the indoor season myself for more speed. I hate the sluggish feel of a softer wheel on a really smooth surface.
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95 & 97 are the best! It blows my mind there are so few options.
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theyre great for weathered skateparks too, been only on these since moving up to the PNW
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I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.
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I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.
I am mostly thinking about getting them for more grip, since my local indoor is so slippery on 99s
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Radials or tablets 97 would be sweet
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I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.
I am mostly thinking about getting them for more grip, since my local indoor is so slippery on 99s
They will help with that, for sure.
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I like them a lot but they are slower in smooth parks for sure and they wear down quicker than 99s.
I've definitely noticed that they're wearing quicker, but this doesn't bother me. Only than their speed on super smooth skatepark concrete, my biggest knock against them would be that they seem to get damp pretty quickly, I presume due to the more porous nature of the compound. I left them in a hot car and they were unskateable for ~10 minutes while they adjusted to the outside air temperature, and after I ride through a puddle, they will clearly by "soft" for a while. Neither of these are real problems, though. Not things that occur regularly.
I will agree that they're ideal for the PNW, or any place where you get the freeze/thaw cycle and the concrete is busted up. I imagine this sort of things ends up being a minorly hard sell to the skateboard industry of California, land of glass-smooth pavement stretching as far as the eye can see.
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95/97a performs wonderfully at crusty ass parks; okay/sluggish at smooth parks.
99/101 perform wonderfully super smooth wood/concrete parks; rough on crusty parks.
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I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks. I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.
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I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks. I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.
Fascinating information, I know.
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Excited to hear so many people like them since I basically only skate on shitty ground. I have some waiting to be set up once my collarbone heals.
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I just grabbed some 97 Conicals after riding 99 Conicals for weeks. I'm hitting a new to me park tomorrow to see how they do.
I like em. Obviously softer than the 99s and harder than a 95, but they didn't feel slow - just a little grippier. Definitely a noticeable difference on rough asphalt too, they take the edge off just enough. I think I'll stick with these for a while now.
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I went back to an identical 101a Spitfire wheel and I felt like I was being punished. I can ride the 101s in a skatepark, but just pushing around at the asphalt slappy spot, my teeth and bones were rattled.
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how do they perform compared to 97A slimeballs ? i have had two sets of slimeballs and loved them for asphalt, they are less good on new concrete parks but if you take them big enough they still can take a lot of speed in my opinion
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Just came in to say the conical full 97a are way better than the classic shape 97a. The slightly softer duro seems to complement the full square shape nicely. Just skated a pretty rugged spot and they felt way better than the classics I had on before (same size)
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I love my 97a formula 4s for street and the local concrete park. I think they are actually more slippery than the 99a spitfires that I skated before, and definately more slippery than the bones 99 afts that I have on another setup. I like how slick they are, but definately skid out quite a bit with them
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Excited to hear so many people like them since I basically only skate on shitty ground. I have some waiting to be set up once my collarbone heals.
That prefab park has the worst ground. It's such a bummer because I love the flatbar, ledges, planters, and pole jam there, but the ground just isn't worth it.
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Just came in to say the conical full 97a are way better than the classic shape 97a. The slightly softer duro seems to complement the full square shape nicely. Just skated a pretty rugged spot and they felt way better than the classics I had on before (same size)
... anyway...
I am here
to help
you.
Gall Bless.
I’ve done both and honestly I can’t say that I notice a difference between them. My preference generally is for conical full wheels, though.
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Love my 97a classics.
I really don’t like conical fulls, I just cannot flip em.
I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx: overheard a few comments on wheels at a local, the consensus was, overwhelmingly, that street skating, needed (if not required) 55+ mm wheels.
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95 & 97 are the best! It blows my mind there are so few options.
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I love my 97a 56mm slimeballs
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Had some bad wipeouts on F4 99A Classics at the indoor skatepark (mix of concrete and wood) on dusty concrete, but also some fresh Skatelite that was super clean. Really messed with my confidence. Switched to F4 97A Classics and it made a huge difference. They are fast and slide but grip just enough to prevent losing too much traction in sketchy situations.
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I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:
Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...
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I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:
Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...
Yeah that makes sense. I’m one of like 50 people that favors lo trucks, and wants to skate actual streets.
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Thinking of picking up some 97a conical fulls for indoor park skating this winter. Are they worth it, how much of a difference do they make?
i wont skate anything but 97a for concrete parks they feel hard like wheel but have a little give for when you hit bumps and dont slow you down. i can slide the spitfire 97a just fine but the oj nomad 95a are little grippier. but for wood i think id go with something harder like the bones spf, i have a set of spf and they are super hard but i dont have any wood parks or ramps to skate around me.
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95 & 97 are the best! It blows my mind there are so few options.
i know right! i have been on the hunt for all makers of 95a-97a wheels in 52mm-56mm probably have a list of about 10 different wheels but ive been emailing companies and telling them to make them. so far SML and Snot have said they are working on it.
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I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:
Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...
My 54s turned into 51.5s faster than any other wheel I’ve skated.
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I really wish the 97a classics came in 52. But I don’t think that would be a winning proposition for dlx:
Yeah, I smaller softer wheels aren't going to last that long. I can imagine a 52mm/97a classics coning and wearing out pretty quick and not mashing through rough terrain that well. You might just get a sluggish F4... Might be fun in super slippery environments...
My 54s turned into 51.5s faster than any other wheel I’ve skated.
Well sheeeeit this is good news for me then.
I’ll just run that early 2000s dill/Ave setup where it looks like they were using 54s with 5.0 lo’s 😆