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Title: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: ChuckRamone on August 26, 2021, 11:39:02 AM
What's the trick to these? I always do the ones where just the front truck gets past the coping and they don't look cool at all. Also, any tips for sliding these would be great too.
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Fhk on August 26, 2021, 12:07:29 PM
Just a little more speed and my front farther back gets more of my board on the deck..then just chill on it for a sec. I think you will find turning out of it will be way easier the closer your back truck is to the coping. For FS I keep my front foot closer to the nose same as my rock to fakie. I also suck at transition compared to most, so I hope someone else chimes in soon for you.
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: cucktard on September 03, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
For backside, you gotta get the back trucks right up to the coping, but keep your weight inside the ramp.

One trick is to do it early, before your body’s reaches its peak, and then start kick turning out of it while you have that little ‘weightless’ moment. I find it helps scoot the board around.

For frontside, make sure your back knee is pointing back into the ramp, not towards your front foot or straight up.
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Frank and Fred on September 03, 2021, 09:03:47 AM
-Keep your weight in the transition as much as possible.
-push the board up and over, lap and lock. (as others mentioned keeping your front foot further back can help.)
-get toey on the back foot. this kind of happens without thinking, so don't dwell on it.
-by the time your wheels hit deck, the top half of your body should already be turned back into the transition and then the bottom half and your board will follow your shoulders around, as soon as you begin to lift your wheels back up.

the more locked and lapped, decked and checked your board is on the platform the easier the kick turn re-entry will be, if your weight stayed in the transition.

once you've done a few, you'll realize it is much safer to do them properly than half-arsed. small tight transition can be a good place to master them, especially frontside.
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: animalflesh on September 03, 2021, 09:32:13 AM
Everyone already said what I was gonna say… that back foot thing is important

It’s cool to slap a rock and everything but overdoing then every time you do a rock looks kinda meh IMO

Sometimes that little middle of the board seesaw suits the spot way better
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Urtripping on September 03, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
2nd slide

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTDOUu2h4zL/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Hyliannightmare on September 03, 2021, 11:14:15 AM
2nd slide

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTDOUu2h4zL/?utm_medium=copy_link

Psychotic
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 04, 2021, 02:03:53 AM
That Gonz clip is awesome!

To pause on any of those and see his upper body already turning before the front foot is decked is the key to doing them on bigger ramps.

As said, smaller tighter transition and bigger ramps with a steep if not vertical face are the best to do them on, but learning them on something more mellow is good too and the best way to work up to something bigger or steeper.

The funny thing is the trick will come more naturally when you don't try to force it, but starting with the quick "tap and turn" is the best way, then get them up a bit more and a bit more, best when you just have the same amount of speed if you were going to kickturn just under the coping or lip, not so much that you would end up on top like a 50-50 or other grind.  If you turn the board slightly the opposite way to the way you are going to turn in, it gives a much better pivot point than just straight as well, which is important to note.

To slide them, come up on an angle and stay low and almost do a quick little motion to get the board straight over the coping with weight on your heels, the way you would turn onto a low curb or something, but you have to stay closer to the middle of the board on the coping or lip if you are on smaller or more mellow edges, depending on how much wheel clearance you have on the face of the ramp and platform.  Again tighter or steeper ramps will have a lot more clearance, so you can have the board way more decked to slide than on something smaller or more mellow.

Keeping weight over the back foot is key, with the front foot pushing down for a second once you get the board over the coping without you trying to push the whole board up as that will just happen.  Same with the back foot or ankle curling motion, which is not so much the foot or ankle rolling, more just your body keeping the leg straight when your body is out behind your board, weight right in the ramp.

It is one of my favourite tricks from the 80s when I first learned them, but it took a while to get them on bigger ramps with a quick enough turn to not slide half way down the ramp back then.

If you don't get your upper body to turn enough or stay low enough over the board, they will be hard to get back around well, or leave you off balance or slip out more often, but finding something comfortable to learn them on will definitely help a whole lot.


Sorry if I am going on, but this is pretty cool too:

https://www.instagram.com/rockandrollclub/



https://www.instagram.com/p/B-cnrsklqaf/



And Lance Mountain sliding one:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BX3LvMWhxrb/
Title: Re: Properly decked rock 'n' rolls
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 04, 2021, 02:19:53 AM

This was another clip I thought was so good.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CC5zrpzlDoK/