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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: rawbertson. on October 02, 2021, 04:32:02 AM
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The only arguments I have heard pro-circumcision are:
1. Historical / Ritual (seems like silly reason to do anything just for the sake of it, like pray to a cross)
2. Hygeine (if you live in 3rd world country you get a pass)
3. Reduce spread of aids (we have other technology like domers to prevent this)
I think it is fucked up to cut kids dicks! Want to hear from the dick cutting defenders.
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The only arguments I have heard pro-circumcision are:
1. Historical / Ritual (seems like silly reason to do anything just for the sake of it, like pray to a cross)
2. Hygeine (if you live in 3rd world country you get a pass)
3. Reduce spread of aids (we have other technology like domers to prevent this)
I think it is fucked up to cut kids dicks! Want to hear from the dick cutting defenders.
I heard a group of drunk girls talking about this at the bar years ago. One girl said she had an ex that wasn't cut and it smelled. She also said he called it a "covered cheese wagon" From what I gathered they thought they were gross but were convinced they were bigger than cut weiners.
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You wouldn't get your kids appendix removed if you didn't need to.
Yeah that story with the girls is pretty common but girls parts can also be gross so whatevs.
Basically i think the girls like cut dicks for the same reason guys like anal. Its just reducing things to the simplest form (just a nob to stroke/just a hole to pump) nothing complex.
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You wouldn't get your kids appendix removed if you didn't need to.
Yeah that story with the girls is pretty common but girls parts can also be gross so whatevs.
Basically i think the girls like cut dicks for the same reason guys like anal. Its just reducing things to the simplest form (just a nob to stroke/just a hole to pump) nothing complex.
you lost me at the end there
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
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It’s like when you get a gallon of milk, you have to take that plastic thing off around the top. Except it’s a newborn human penis is all.
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
Yeah as someone who has had multiple downstairs mixups that require the hospital, most people are going to pass on getting their shit sliced up if given the chance. I'm glad they did that shit when i couldn't remember it because I've had to be awake for other stuff and it was unpleasant
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Yeah, I personally think it's wrong. I have no right to modify anyone else's body, even if it's my son. I don't want my son to get circumcised.
The problem is that my religion thinks otherwise.
My wife sides with my religion, as she's the same as me (although she ignores other, more important rules of our religion).
We don't have kids, and probably won't as we're now separated, but I always thought about how I could change her mind, or how I would have to cope with allowing the circumcision. It's a pretty unhealthy situation.
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I am not sure that it is a crime but it's not really necessary as far as I can tell. I don't think it's wrong but I won't do it to my children.
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Yeah, I personally think it's wrong. I have no right to modify anyone else's body, even if it's my son. I don't want my son to get circumcised.
The problem is that my religion thinks otherwise.
My wife sides with my religion, as she's the same as me (although she ignores other, more important rules of our religion).
We don't have kids, and probably won't as we're now separated, but I always thought about how I could change her mind, or how I would have to cope with allowing the circumcision. It's a pretty unhealthy situation.
It sounds like the circumcision issue may be less important than a few others
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you can ask the surgeon/medic to pull back the skin, fold it nicely and stitched around the dick. instead of cutting it...then it'll be a natural cock-ring..
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Yeah, I personally think it's wrong. I have no right to modify anyone else's body, even if it's my son. I don't want my son to get circumcised.
The problem is that my religion thinks otherwise.
My wife sides with my religion, as she's the same as me (although she ignores other, more important rules of our religion).
We don't have kids, and probably won't as we're now separated, but I always thought about how I could change her mind, or how I would have to cope with allowing the circumcision. It's a pretty unhealthy situation.
It sounds like the circumcision issue may be less important than a few others
Quite a few, yeah.
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I didn't circumcise my son. He can get it done if he wants. I never had a choice and the worst thing my parents did to me was taking my brothers and I to the hospital when I was six and circumcised us without asking or telling us what was happening. Fucking terrible.
Imagine you have a perfectly healthy son and you agree to have him circumcised and the person performing the procedure slips up even just a little bit.What are you going to tell your dickless son?
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It would have been nice to have a choice. Also my one went kinda bad. I have a large scar and it has been painful at times growing up.
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Imagine you have a perfectly healthy son and you agree to have him circumcised and the person performing the procedure slips up even just a little bit.What are you going to tell your dickless son?
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From talking to buddies who aren’t circumcised it sounds like a lot more upkeep and it’s always kinda awkward with a new lady friend because most aren’t used to it. If i had a son i would have it done. You guys hear about this tho? Fuckin insane
https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/index.html
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From talking to buddies who aren’t circumcised it sounds like a lot more upkeep and it’s always kinda awkward with a new lady friend because most aren’t used to it. If i had a son i would have it done. You guys hear about this tho? Fuckin insane
https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/index.html
Sick pieces of shit.
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If I have a kid, he don't be cut. After having partners from countries that are not US, I've learned that its pretty unusual elsewhere. My dutch homies, who I worked and camped with for months in places where we couldn't really get clean, said cleanliness is NBD and they were good if they washed their junk 1x/week.
Its some crazy ass business, circumcision. Why do something that makes the pecker less sensitive and more exposed?
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I got my nutsack caught in a zipper when I was a kid. In those pajamas that had the feet attached at the bottom and zipper on the front. Hated those things. Feet always hot and it got me with the zipper. I cried and my mom helped me unzip my nutsack.
No long term damage but I remember it as a traumatic experience and have never made that mistake again. Thank god I don’t remember my circumcising. Some barbaric shit that is.
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"mushroom slice"
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Also I'm not against it but that's probably just cultural and because i have it myself.
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I was snipped as an infant, but wife and I chose not to snip our boy.
We felt that it was not necessary as we will most likely always live in places with running water and soap for him to keep his wiener clean.
Only downfall I’ve heard when discussing with friends that aren’t snipped and others that like dick are that those who weren’t snipped had a hard time developing sexual stamina due to the head of their dick maintaining maximum sensitivity and the dick sniffers saying that the unclipped have a certain musk about them; but I don’t think that stopped them from indulging.
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I’m for it, sure it’s not really consensual but nor do I want a fishy mung wang. I’m not trying to have an anteaters peter neither.
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Not against it but my old man was and didn’t want me to be so I got that forey
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
Yeah as someone who has had multiple downstairs mixups that require the hospital, most people are going to pass on getting their shit sliced up if given the chance. I'm glad they did that shit when i couldn't remember it because I've had to be awake for other stuff and it was unpleasant
If you’re taking about a vasectomy that sucks man, I had it done this past summer and was given some valium, and just chatted with the nurse and doctors. Doctor was super attentive though and when I let him know there was any pain at all he injected more local.
As far as circumcision, I’m snipped but I’m against it. The only reason it became prevalent was as an anti-masturbatory thing. Sure it’s marginally easier to keep clean, but the difference is marginal and certainly doesn’t warrant mutilation.
It’s really like asking if you’d support removing ear lobes. It marginally makes it easier to keep clean and they don’t really serve a function, so why not?
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
Yeah as someone who has had multiple downstairs mixups that require the hospital, most people are going to pass on getting their shit sliced up if given the chance. I'm glad they did that shit when i couldn't remember it because I've had to be awake for other stuff and it was unpleasant
If you’re taking about a vasectomy that sucks man, I had it done this past summer and was given some valium, and just chatted with the nurse and doctors. Doctor was super attentive though and when I let him know there was any pain at all he injected more local.
I wish i was talking about a vasectomy. I had testicular torsion at 17 and a priapism at 24. Both very unpleasant to have resolved
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I fully remember jerking it heaps as a kid the foreskin would never go back, I would fully masturbate with a flat hand and like rub the underbelly
I have this vivid memory of jerking it properly and I full pulled it all down one time and it hurt
There wasn’t like smegma levels you see on YouTube but I had to clean that shit I was like 7-8 but yeah I’d defz show my kid what’s up
Edit I changed underside to underbelly upon reflection it’s a much better way to describe it
I meant like the shaft
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
Yeah as someone who has had multiple downstairs mixups that require the hospital, most people are going to pass on getting their shit sliced up if given the chance. I'm glad they did that shit when i couldn't remember it because I've had to be awake for other stuff and it was unpleasant
If you’re taking about a vasectomy that sucks man, I had it done this past summer and was given some valium, and just chatted with the nurse and doctors. Doctor was super attentive though and when I let him know there was any pain at all he injected more local.
As far as circumcision, I’m snipped but I’m against it. The only reason it became prevalent was as an anti-masturbatory thing. Sure it’s marginally easier to keep clean, but the difference is marginal and certainly doesn’t warrant mutilation.
It’s really like asking if you’d support removing ear lobes. It marginally makes it easier to keep clean and they don’t really serve a function, so why not?
As someone who isn’t from the US this is fascinating to me. I thought this was a Jewish thing, plus maybe a few cases where it was medically necessary, but from this thread it sounds like people just do it to their kids because…? Like what are the percentages of cut to not cut in the US?
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I'm team Skinless but don't support it. It does seem like less hassle, though. Also have no memories of it, so can't really say I'm traumatized.
Not gonna force on my kids if I'll ever have any.
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Growing up Catholic, my parents circumcised me. But I vividly remember my first time seeing an uncircumcised dick in a high school locker room and everyone was giving the kid shit, calling him “stinky wiener” and such.
I think he ended up being pretty good at cycling racing and is probably having some bomb sex right now so I guess he won in the long run.
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I wish i was talking about a vasectomy. I had testicular torsion at 17 and a priapism at 24. Both very unpleasant to have resolved
Oh shit, that’s awful. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
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Not necessarily, but I think the individual should be given the choice (when they’re old enough to make it) instead of having it forced upon them at birth. I had it done to me twice when I was younger, the second time being when I was around 5, pretty scary shit when you’re kid…
Yeah as someone who has had multiple downstairs mixups that require the hospital, most people are going to pass on getting their shit sliced up if given the chance. I'm glad they did that shit when i couldn't remember it because I've had to be awake for other stuff and it was unpleasant
If you’re taking about a vasectomy that sucks man, I had it done this past summer and was given some valium, and just chatted with the nurse and doctors. Doctor was super attentive though and when I let him know there was any pain at all he injected more local.
As far as circumcision, I’m snipped but I’m against it. The only reason it became prevalent was as an anti-masturbatory thing. Sure it’s marginally easier to keep clean, but the difference is marginal and certainly doesn’t warrant mutilation.
It’s really like asking if you’d support removing ear lobes. It marginally makes it easier to keep clean and they don’t really serve a function, so why not?
As someone who isn’t from the US this is fascinating to me. I thought this was a Jewish thing, plus maybe a few cases where it was medically necessary, but from this thread it sounds like people just do it to their kids because…? Like what are the percentages of cut to not cut in the US?
Estimates have put it as high as 76-92% of males over here; it seems to vary by demographic. The CDC puts it at 65% in 1979 and it fell to 58% in 2010. Either way it’s still over half.
Back in the 1800s it was thought masturbating caused a whole host of illnesses, from mental to physical. Jonathan Hutchinson and Lewis Sayre promoted it as a deterrent to masturbation, with Sayre claiming Jewish men had far fewer STDs.
Britain, upon founding the NHS, actually did the sensible thing and looked at whether medical procedures were actually beneficial, and realized that the risks outweighed the benefits and so it wasn’t covered, essentially cause it was a waste of money. The US didn’t have any such review so it still was recommended by doctors, even up to today. Apparently the US finally made similar statements that it gave no medical benefit in the 70s but didn’t recommend against it. The current standing is that the benefits outweigh the risks.
So yeah, it’s all grounded in pseudoscience that masturbation makes you less healthy, and it’s backed up in peoples’ minds by the fact that if you don’t teach your child how to clean properly, smegma can become a problem. When it’s pointed out that the same is true for women people just wave it off.
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Growing up Catholic, my parents circumcised me. But I vividly remember my first time seeing an uncircumcised dick in a high school locker room and everyone was giving the kid shit, calling him “stinky wiener” and such.
I think he ended up being pretty good at cycling racing and is probably having some bomb sex right now so I guess he won in the long run.
Yeah, bomb sex with dudes...
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I’ve been saving up to have extra foreskin installed just to stick it to the man. Could also serve as a backup parachute were I ever in a skydiving mishap.
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Growing up Catholic, my parents circumcised me. But I vividly remember my first time seeing an uncircumcised dick in a high school locker room and everyone was giving the kid shit, calling him “stinky wiener” and such.
I think he ended up being pretty good at cycling racing and is probably having some bomb sex right now so I guess he won in the long run.
Uncircumcised has to be the most aerodynamic cock option, by far.
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For some growing boys it becomes too tight to pull back, so they just do a partial circumcision, to help avoid any hygiene/health issues down the road.
Or so I hear.
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From talking to buddies who aren’t circumcised it sounds like a lot more upkeep and it’s always kinda awkward with a new lady friend because most aren’t used to it. If i had a son i would have it done. You guys hear about this tho? Fuckin insane
https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/index.html
I’ve never thought of it as a lot of upkeep. You pull the skin back when you pee and when you shower to wash your dong and have it pulled back for blowjobs. There’s nothing more annoying in some foreign blow job scenes when a girl is just going at it with the skin not pulled back. And the guy doesn’t do anything about it, like, how are you even enjoying that? forskin is thicker than a condom. And a bj with a condom isn’t nearly as nice as without.
As long as a child is taught to pull it back when he’s potty trained and to make sure to do it in the shower. There should never be any issue or major upkeep.
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Nah just practice docking shit lmao
I can put shit up there if I want it’s like a pocket
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Nah just practice docking shit lmao
I can put shit up there if I want it’s like a pocket
I hear some guys use it to store cheetos
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My parents felt strongly about it being unnecessary and inappropriate therefore my brothers and I are all “intact”. I was VERY self conscious about it through middle and high school about getting made fun of for it, so back then I had planned to have it done as an adult. Never did and I’m glad now.
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I really need to rewatch that John Wilson show
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFKdZsAkMqs
https://foreskinrestoration.vbulletin.net/
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freud’s ghost is spazzing reading this thread
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I was self conscious about it until I got my first good blowjob
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Why do something that makes the pecker less sensitive
As a circumcised premature ejaculator, I can say that this isn't always true...
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Do you know the dummy half?
When I’m about to go I full think of men getting tackled and I focus on the dummy half and his pass
It fucken works ay
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Sex isn't done just because my dick thinks it's done.
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And it doesn’t matter if everyone you ever met bets against you it doesn’t mean you’re gonna fucken lose mate
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i think what most people have said is correct.
You should leave the dick in its natural state (i'm a la natural - thanks mumso... and everything works as it should... and i've never heard any complaints ... too my face) unless there is a legit medical reason to have your foreskin removed
If its for religious or self-consciousness reasons, then it should be the owner of said penis's decision whether or not to have it done... and not the parents
come to think of it... I've never seen a japanese person with a cut wang... and ive seen a lot
(there is a plethora of penises at onsen)
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i think what most people have said is correct.
You should leave the dick in its natural state (i'm a la natural - thanks mumso... and everything works as it should... and i've never heard any complaints ... too my face) unless there is a legit medical reason to have your foreskin removed
If its for religious or self-consciousness reasons, then it should be the owner of said penis's decision whether or not to have it done... and not the parents
come to think of it... I've never seen a japanese person with a cut wang... and ive seen a lot
(there is a plethora of penises at onsen)
Not at lot to cut?
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Imagine you have a perfectly healthy son and you agree to have him circumcised and the person performing the procedure slips up even just a little bit.What are you going to tell your dickless son?
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well there's a famous case. Crazy story. Does not end well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer)
as another Euro, I am also baffled by this subject. Also someone said he had it done because he was raised catholic? Even stranger to me. Catholics don't do it, here in Europe at least. Muslims and Jews do.
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Imagine you have a perfectly healthy son and you agree to have him circumcised and the person performing the procedure slips up even just a little bit.What are you going to tell your dickless son?
(https://c.tenor.com/sEgO30RPZBYAAAAM/sad-face.gif)
well there's a famous case. Crazy story. Does not end well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer)
as another Euro, I am also baffled by this subject. Also someone said he had it done because he was raised catholic? Even stranger to me. Catholics don't do it, here in Europe at least. Muslims and Jews do.
I think it's just an American thing.
Americans seem to like to add Catholic or Italian or Irish etc to themselves like it's a thing but they're just Americans.
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Uncircumcised American here and I am totally against it. I went through some brutal teasing in high school and it sucked but I felt better because the only reason anyone knew was because I was getting sucked. For anyone wondering what the common attitude towards uncut dicks in America is look no further than the Bad Moms Christmas movie which has a scene where one of the bad moms mentions seeing an uncircumcised penis and her friends all shreek in disgust and tell her to leave that gross dick in the street where it belongs. And so the shaming continues……… but no woman going “ew gross” will convince me that it’s okay to slice a baby’s dick for no medical reason.
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Uncircumcised American here and I am totally against it. I went through some brutal teasing in high school and it sucked but I felt better because the only reason anyone knew was because I was getting sucked. For anyone wondering what the common attitude towards uncut dicks in America is look no further than the Bad Moms Christmas movie which has a scene where one of the bad moms mentions seeing an uncircumcised penis and her friends all shreek in disgust and tell her to leave that gross dick in the street where it belongs. And so the shaming continues……… but no woman going “ew gross” will convince me that it’s okay to slice a baby’s dick for no medical reason.
I butchered that Bad Moms quote like they would a baby dick.
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It is much more fun to suck an uncut cock.
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
Same. A vasectomy and three hernia op's will put it in a different perspective for sure. I guess the important thing is for everyone to be proud of their hog (as @PuffinMuffin put it) and keep that thing clean and race-ready..whether it's chopped up or not.
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I was circumcised when I was little for medical reasons- I apparently found it painful. I remember the day I went to the doctors about it because it was my birthday and for some reason they gave me a puzzle.
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I was circumcised when I was little for medical reasons- I apparently found it painful. I remember the day I went to the doctors about it because it was my birthday and for some reason they gave me a puzzle.
Someone owes me a puzzle.
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Not here to participate in the moral aspect but I'm cut and have never had an issue, including the "reduced sensitivity" thing. I also think uncut ones look weird.
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
Testicular torsion and getting a priapism drained twice for me. Got a big ass scar on my dick from the surgery and the lasting image of my entire dick and balls being covered in bruises
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Yikes
Reading this thread makes my dick do the costanza.
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
Testicular torsion and getting a priapism drained twice for me. Got a big ass scar on my dick from the surgery and the lasting image of my entire dick and balls being covered in bruises
That shit must alleviate the fear of slamming while skateboarding.
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
Testicular torsion and getting a priapism drained twice for me. Got a big ass scar on my dick from the surgery and the lasting image of my entire dick and balls being covered in bruises
You'd think so but I'm still a giant wimp
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I guess because I've had much worse shit happen to me down there, i don't really see it as the mutilation that some people view it as
Testicular torsion and getting a priapism drained twice for me. Got a big ass scar on my dick from the surgery and the lasting image of my entire dick and balls being covered in bruises
You'd think so but I'm still a giant wimp
Not buying it.. I have seen the gap to wall.
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Of course it's wrong to cut a healthy baby.