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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Your Cousin Marvin on November 08, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
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like some dudes are like "hey I only skate Hockey its the best"
And the other dude is like "fuck your Jessup i'm a Mobster(yes. they call themselfs that)"
and homie down the street is like "yo yo yo Independent trunks or nothing"
Then that one girl is like "Spitfires for me and nothing else"
of course you got the bearings fanboys who can't stop repeating "well Reds are the standard dont you know, Bobby"
But i never seent anyone who takes pride in their hardware. Once i can remember what brand I have thats all I'm going to talk about. What about you? are you picky about your hardware?
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silveradoooooooooo (yah)
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U sound like a philips guy
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Shorty's Silverado's allllll day!
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palace bolts are shiny
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Tip top & what not; best of the best for me.
I’ll only have the finest, whatever that may be.
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pride is a sin
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bender 7/8 allen
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Shorty’s lights. Rare and backstocked everytime i seent them
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i only skate monkey nutz
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only 3 companies i buy are shortys, sunday and modus
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I just use hot glue on the trucks and grip over the bolt holes
Hasn’t worked yet!
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I’m typically a shop hardware guy because honestly, it doesn’t matter; HOWEVER, I came up on some modus allen stuff and I audibly said “this is some nice hardware.”
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modus only but never really thought about it until now
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yeah i have pride
that being said, shiny stuff thats 7/8
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I choose my hardware based on the color indicator bolt. Bronze definitely has the best stock indicator bolt color, but thunder wins for variety. If I'm in a bind and can't find the color I want, I'll just whatever that's 1" philips and color one with a posca marker.
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As long as one bolt is coloured I don’t give a fuck
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All 8 BLACK PHILLIPS BOLTS. 1inch. No threads on top portion.
SILVER nuts.
No compromise.
I have a box of bro style I keep grabbing when needed. But brand no matter as long as it meets my specs.
I love skateboards.
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Randoms or death
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Shortys.
7 black with the front left bolt sanded down a little on the top for distinction
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Randoms or death
I used to use a skull one as a directional bolt.
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Huh
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Shorty's Silverado's allllll day!
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S HORTY S GANG !
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"...huh hardware" in san diego all day
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Shorty's 1 inch phillips, since they never seem to have Silverados when I need them. I'd try Hardies if I actually saw them in the wild at a brick and mortar shop.
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Ok this is probably super weird, I try to find hardware that has a larger diameter head. I have a set of bronze ones with one copper bolt that are pretty good sized, the Indy hardware where you can see the cross on each bolt work too. I switch between Phillips and Allen key frequently too don’t really care too much. And I always make sure my fucking bolts are flush to the board when I set it up and normally my base plates never come lose in the entire time I have that board.
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I have never had the urge to stray from Bridgebolts
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DLXSF brands, Jessup, bronze hardware and bones bearings.
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HARDWARE FOR THE MASSES
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7/8th Allen.
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Halos to Upful to Billy’s nuts now Nutass
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Bought some Bender hardware within the past year and it’s cool. It works. All to say I’ll probably stick with Bender or another small brand moving forward.
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Anyone remember Lomavista hardware from kayo? It never launched, but they had a website. It was supposed to work somehow work with just a screwdriver
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Anyone remember Lomavista hardware from kayo? It never launched, but they had a website. It was supposed to work somehow work with just a screwdriver
I used to order $38 Expedition decks from that site my senior year of college.
I also take pride in never having skated any decks with the Innerlock hardware technology.
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I used to use a skull one as a directional bolt.
Classic. I had the birdman, label, skull, pentagram and aliens at one time but gave away the birdman and someone stole the board with the label flames. That one makes me the most sad
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Anything except hardies
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Rode nothing but Shorty’s original 1” phillips for 22 years. Just grabbed a pair of the Biggest Little a few months back
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Every time this gets bumped my first thought is that it’s a ten yard fight appreciation thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXsBmgHv/8-AE7843-F-E2-E2-4071-8-A9-C-5290-A499393-B.jpg)
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U sound like a philips guy
*channels inner bostonian*
Wha' doyawanna fide aboud it?
I don't get the allen hype. People say the don't bakc out as easily? Idk how the shape on top of the bolt would affect that. I like philips because i usually have one nearby or can get one easily. Also, I hate fresh looking hardware. I usually buy 7/8 or 1" shorty's philips, last time they only had silverados, i literally painted the silver ones black on top and roughed them all up with sandpaper. They all look the same after skating for a month. A dull, scuffed grey metal color...... perfect.
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I don't think I'm capable of "hardware pride", but I prefer allen over Phillips.
I will say Indy hardware has lil' iron crosses on the tops of each bolt which I didn't notice til they wore down a bit. Don't want to start that debate again but I'll just say I find that distracting so the only hardware I avoid now is Indy.
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U sound like a philips guy
*channels inner bostonian*
Wha' doyawanna fide aboud it?
I don't get the allen hype. People say the don't bakc out as easily? Idk how the shape on top of the bolt would affect that. I like philips because i usually have one nearby or can get one easily. Also, I hate fresh looking hardware. I usually buy 7/8 or 1" shorty's philips, last time they only had silverados, i literally painted the silver ones black on top and roughed them all up with sandpaper. They all look the same after skating for a month. A dull, scuffed grey metal color...... perfect.
I think the benefit of allen's is the tops are pretty much strip proof. Phillips tops are more easily bent out of shape the more you tighten/loosen them. The contact area you're putting torque on with a phillips is more prone to this because it's simply not as solid; geometrically sound. That's really the only reason I prefer allen.
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I don’t like the slim nuts on shorty’s. I like it when the tool/wrench stays on the nut and doesn’t slip off if I lose complete concentration for a nanosecond. And philips head can take its ball and go home because homie don’t play that either.
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I don’t like the slim nuts on shorty’s. I like it when the tool/wrench stays on the nut and doesn’t slip off if I lose complete concentration for a nanosecond. And philips head can take its ball and go home because homie don’t play that either.
Yea, the slim nuts can be annoying, I'll swap them for regular ones if i have some with good nylock left laying around.
I think the benefit of allen's is the tops are pretty much strip proof. Phillips tops are more easily bent out of shape the more you tighten/loosen them. That's really the only reason I prefer allen.
Yea, I get that, but i feel the pro of regular philips screwdrivers being much more common than a specific size allen key outweighs that, to me anyways. Just take your time and use good force, you wont strip the philips for a long time, and when you do, its usually time for new ones anyways.
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only benefit of phillips is being common/most people have the tool.
used to ride allen key hardware believing it had less friction on my shoes? nobody ever had the tool and i couldn't be fucked to bring a tool with me everywhere.
riding a mishmosh of random hardware from a couple completes
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hardies only
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Ride whatever, if it works then use it.
Only thing I can't do is have two different lengths or a hodgepodge of phillips and allen hardware in my setup.
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Phillips only, I never owned a set of allen in my life. I use Indy bolts, have had the same set for about 3 years, never had problems with them, and I go through boards like crazy. Only thing is that I lost one of them, so now I run 7 bolts, 4 in the front and 3 in the back.
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
ok yeah but....you ever see an allen key that came with your bolts that you could put on a keychain? me either. that being said i'm sure it exists but ffs lets be practical, who tf skates with their allen key in their wallet on their person?
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I’ve been rocking the same hardware for years from this Canadian company called Plains, and they haven’t stripped yet.
The company’s been dead for close to 5 years yet I haven’t needed new hardware since.
Got some Diamond hardware on another set up, seems fine.
Only requirement is it has to be Allen for me.
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
ok yeah but....you ever see an allen key that came with your bolts that you could put on a keychain? me either. that being said i'm sure it exists but ffs lets be practical, who tf skates with their allen key in their wallet on their person?
I don’t do either of those, Im a normal person. Im just trying to reach out to these philips people that act like they wouldn’t be able to skate without having 9 philips head screwdrivers within a 100ft radius. It’s like a psychological delusion.
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Bronze 56K all day baby. Phillips only.
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
ok yeah but....you ever see an allen key that came with your bolts that you could put on a keychain? me either. that being said i'm sure it exists but ffs lets be practical, who tf skates with their allen key in their wallet on their person?
I don’t do either of those, Im a normal person. Im just trying to reach out to these philips people that act like they wouldn’t be able to skate without having 9 philips head screwdrivers within a 100ft radius. It’s like a psychological delusion.
bet more people would say they had a screwdriver or something flat as opposed to some hexagonal key.... and that's #FACTS
but in all seriousness allen keys are a harder find.
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Knowgood Hardware <3 rip
might have to become part of the HARDIES GANG
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I've had the same 7 bolts for probably 20 years. Stripped one maybe 12 years ago and never got around to replacing it.
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I've got two sets of titanium theeve allen heads that are my favorites. That's as proud as I get.
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I can't fucking stand Nicky Diamond and the whole "Diamond Life" persona.
Having said that I almost exclusively ride diamond 7/8 allen bolts. I hated on them for year because of the persona thing, then I tried a set because nothing else was available at the shop in 7/8 allen and they worked really well, rarely backed out/loosened when riding rough surfaces.
I would never own up to it in person, I also never ride the colored bolt that comes in the pack so no one will ever know.
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Bronze allen only
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
ok yeah but....you ever see an allen key that came with your bolts that you could put on a keychain? me either. that being said i'm sure it exists but ffs lets be practical, who tf skates with their allen key in their wallet on their person?
I don’t do either of those, Im a normal person. Im just trying to reach out to these philips people that act like they wouldn’t be able to skate without having 9 philips head screwdrivers within a 100ft radius. It’s like a psychological delusion.
Availability of tools VS strip-ability of bolts. It's really not that hard to see the argument for either. I'm more likely to forget an allen key than I am to fuck up screwing in a philips head, so its a pretty easy choice for me.
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Black allen bolts is all I really care about. I'll buy whatever brand the local shop has.
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shop hardware. 1inch phillips. i keep the sk8 tool at home and make sure theyre snug but not forced after every sesh. no pride its just how ive been doing it for a while
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working at a small shop for years , i have lost plenty respect for good local skaters when they are bummed because you dont have "name brand hardware" or leave because you don't have "7/8th inch allen." call me bitter, but we order in bulk and it works exactly the same.
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My friend tom has 3 Allen key bolts the other 5 are Philips
There all different lengths and rattle like hell. Not relavent but his wheels on the left side are somehow about 3mm smaller than the ones on the right but yesterday he kickfliped a 9 stair 4th try so it works somehow
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All 8 BLACK PHILLIPS BOLTS. 1inch. No threads on top portion.
SILVER nuts.
No compromise.
I have a box of bro style I keep grabbing when needed. But brand no matter as long as it meets my specs.
I love skateboards.
this is the truth.
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BRONZE 56K
if it aint hardware it aint shit
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I just prefer 7/8 Allen. Don’t care for brands of hardwares
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nah, my setup has a frankenstein's monster collection of allen and phillips hardware of different sizes, colors and brands
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Shorty's or Bronze for me. Bronze is the only company that can make me buy Phillips bolts.
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Bronze
Love how no one has said Shake Junt
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i used to have, but not anymore. just about what works. i still care about aesthetics though. if i find a truck or wheel ugly, it might be a deal breaker. boards not so much since they lose their graphic anyways.
i fully admit i used to hate on shit on here that i now have no problem using or even endorsing (dsm wood).
i don't care about grip cults, i switched to mob after multiple bad sheets of jessup, now i dislike the new mob and probably would switch back or just try whatever, i don't care. i was indy or die for over a decade and then switched to ventures because i was bored and as so many had the nostalgia feels, but i feel like indys fit me better. but i will still finish skating the ventures.
i'm not sticking with product out of pride nowadays, it's just maybe i want something that works the same way again and again. i'd rather say there are brands i wouldn't want to buy from due to pride because i feel like they don't deserve my money for any sort of reason, be it bad product experiences or other things.
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If I couldn’t buy shortys bolts anymore, I’d probably give up skating. At the moment I’m a “loophole-er” and have converted many people at my local and forced them to denounce their spitfires. I still haven’t found a truck that feels as good as Indy stage 7s so I’m still delving in a few different circles …
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All silver hardware is pretty hard to find these days, anything with silver nuts is ok. I hate black hardware with raw trucks.
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Can’t do Phillips. And it kills me, cause I’d love to have some Bronze pride. I’ll have to settle for whatever Allen I buy every 4 years, and wish I’d at least spruced extra and bought 7/8
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My friend tom has 3 Allen key bolts the other 5 are Philips
There all different lengths and rattle like hell. Not relavent but his wheels on the left side are somehow about 3mm smaller than the ones on the right but yesterday he kickfliped a 9 stair 4th try so it works somehow
*shudder* the horror, the absolute horror.
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When you buy allen hardware, they literally give you the wrench. Just hold on to that wrench. Put one in your wallet or keychain. You manage to hold on to other small, metal things: house keys, jewelry, coins.
ok yeah but....you ever see an allen key that came with your bolts that you could put on a keychain? me either. that being said i'm sure it exists but ffs lets be practical, who tf skates with their allen key in their wallet on their person?
Fuck. I guess I’m a weirdo. I always take a bumbag with me to skate. It’s got a skate tool, and Allen key for my hardware, wax, one of those Thunder truck rebuild kits with all of the nuts and washers you need, spare hardware, etc. Pretty sure I’ve got extra bushings in there, maybe even a spare pack of cheap bearings just in case. I’m not trying to get the session stopped for bullshit. Gotta be prepared.
That said, I like 1” Allen hardware. I like the positive engagement of knowing the bolt goes all the way through the nut. Currently using Thunder hardware. I like it. Green indicator bolt is nice.
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i have hardware anxiety
Shorty's - what am i, a tech skater?
Bronze - i'm not making an online order and spending a bunch on shipping for hardware
Independent - that cross is ew
Bones - threading all the way through
Diamond - this aint the early 2010's
anything allen - what am i, a tech skater??
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silveradoooooooooo (yah)
For life!^ You bet your sweet ass I do. lol Silverados or gtfo! ;D
Enjoi hardware? I can't even be friends with you.
Philips only. Allens hurt my dainty hands. haha
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bolts have grown to be one of the most important things to me. they hold everything together and depending on how long you use them, it’s the one thing you’re gonna be looking at consciously or subconsciously for a very long time so you might as well get something that’s good. so with that being said, 1 1/4” indy iron cross bolts for the win
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Bender 7/8 philips along with hardcore pride
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Indy phillips because Tactics has them for $2, they aren't threaded the entire way, and I can always find a screwdriver. Philips strip out faster - but see the $2 comment. I can go in with a 10 spot and come out with enough hardware that I don't care how long they last.
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Had a set of tensor 7/8th Allen little heads with the shorter nuts for like 12 years. Never ever had a problem. They weren't special pretty sure I only even picked them because they were the cheapest. Then spent some years riding whatever Allens 1inch with small heads but they'd often still come loose every so often.
Now I'm riding some random cheap Phillips 7/8ths because fuck it who cares.
Nice thing about Phillips is you can set up some like an X and the other like + so you can tell the nose from the tail
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for all you 'the nuts must be silver' type operators, just go to a hardware store with a good selection of bolts and buy a box of 100 10-32UNF thin type nyloc nuts for like 3 bucks.
you could also buy some generic black 10-32x7/8" UNF flat head socket screws to go with them, but that won't appease any of you 'it must have an unthreaded shoulder' types.
also I usually buy diamond 7/8" bolts, they're what OCD has cheap usually and i just buy a new set every couple of boards
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Indy 7/8" allen. Black. Till death.
Indy's seem to have a slightly wider head, which do not sink down into the deck like others do. I despise hardware that sinks in, and it seems like the smaller heads often do that. Plus, I ride Indys, so why not match them up. I hate phillips because I have an irrational fear that they will strip out easier. Plus, I think allen just looks "cleaner." But to that end, I also hate the look of brand new hardware.
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Been a Phillips guy, but I just remembered that the Unit tool comes with an Allen key so that kinda solves everything.
(https://www.tactics.com/a/3ahd/2/unit-skate-tool-blacker.jpg)
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The only "pride" I have is in the knowledge that i purchased my hardware from my local shop. I'm also Team Philips because that's what my local sells. There are enough skateboard components already for me to consider getting any kind of madness over nuts and bolts.
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...the real question is, do you countersink your holes first?
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I'd like to try some button-heads on my next board. Could be a nuisance, but maybe its like deathbolts lmao
(https://img4.fastenal.com/infp360pmm/derivates/3/001/156/399/81053.jpg)
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...the real question is, do you countersink your holes first?
Sometimes I'll twist the screwdriver in the hole a tiny bit first.
So why don't people like to sink their bolts? Personally I hate if they're sticking up at all
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The real question is, do you grip over your bolts (after counter sinking them) for improved grip/ flick?
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Nah, don't have a preference on allen or phillips, just as long as they're all the same and not some whack color. Replaced some last spring so my hardware isn't even matching at the moment.
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My local shop sells their own bolts so I just buy those rather than any other brand because they probably make the most off them.
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Usually the cheapest (Allen head, though).
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The Bronze mixtapes definitely get me through some long drives. Also really funny with the skits. Solid marketing power move there.
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The only people that have hardware pride are the guys that skate 7/8 allen
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The only people that have hardware pride are the guys that skate 7/8 allen
FAX
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https://waldskateboards.com/
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Im not picky but if they are available its always ...
SHAKE JUNT
SHAKE JUNT
SHAKE JUNT
SHAKE JUNT
SHAKE JUNT
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Thread title reminds me of Ice-T The Tower:
You see the Whites Skaters got a thing
The call White hardware pride
The Blacks got the muscle
Mexicans got the knives
::)
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Modus 7/8" Allen strictly
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Modus Allen head only
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shorty's silverados 7/8 allen only 8)
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Shortys
I have always liked the fact that Shortys 7/8" come with the low head nuts, which means they fit well on all the normal cast baseplates.
The standard (taller) nuts that come with most 7/8" bolts of most brands fit best if you are on forged baseplates that are thinner, but often don't tighten enough on the regular plates, so many people have had bolts loosen off or even fall off when using them.
Never lost a single Shortys bolt or nut, that I can recall.
Also the size of the head of the bolts, being smaller than most, is easier to do up and to me, they don't have any issues pulling through, as some people have said, which is why they use bigger head bolts.
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it was 1” Phillips for 15 years straight.
the last 6, it had been 7/8” allen
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if u run all 8 bolts u got no swag
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if someone made metric allen i'd have hardware pride
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Mostly Diamond 7/8 allen, baby!
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U sound like a philips guy
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if u run all 8 bolts u got no swag
don't knock others just cuz you don't have all ur nuts ;)
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pretty much a spitfire guy
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I ride for a bolt company, Orale, but only use one of their 1 inch phillips at the top right, the rest are silver 7/8 allen heads. When the owner reads this he's going to be pissed at me
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I ride for a bolt company, Orale, but only use one of their 1 inch phillips at the top right, the rest are silver 7/8 allen heads. When the owner reads this he's going to be pissed at me
motherfucker i'm docking your pay
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Yeah, you know I rock the Theeve Tibolts
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Mob and Andy Boltz
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNFU2Ak-424
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125 GLOBAL, Never lost a bolt.
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I just bought some Indy bolts today ("genuine parts")
I would accept substitutes, so no I don't have pride
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Philly's hardware, that shit stays tight.
https://phillyshardware.com (https://phillyshardware.com)
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Philly's hardware, that shit stays tight.
https://phillyshardware.com (https://phillyshardware.com)
any hardware stays tight if you tighten it
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I wouldn’t say it’s loyalty, but I usually use diamond(7/8Allen).
Philly's hardware, that shit stays tight.
https://phillyshardware.com (https://phillyshardware.com)
Only 1 inch? wack.
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Philly's hardware, that shit stays tight.
https://phillyshardware.com (https://phillyshardware.com)
any hardware stays tight if you tighten it
Or if you just replace the nuts when the nyloc starts to go, which will happen 100% of the time, which costs less too.
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bridge bolts for life
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Different brands, colors, lengths, allen, phillips, one bolt missing.
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When does Tyshawn leave FA and make Hardies a board brand?
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Quasi/Polar. Spitfire. Mob. Have only skatedbones reds since I started skating 20 odd years ago. Was consistent with Indy’s for the last 15 years but recently purchased some ventures to try.
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Now we are really getting down to the nuts and bolts of skateboarding. 1" Allen head for life.
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Childhood is phillips head, adulthood is allen.