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Title: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on January 14, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
figured there could be a thread for gear questions that you need answers to, but shouldn't have a thread of their own.

for mine, does the waxedness of a curb affect how much it grinds away at your trucks? will a buttery curb do less than a sketchy rougher one?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 15, 2022, 08:18:23 AM
figured there could be a thread for gear questions that you need answers to, but shouldn't have a thread of their own.

for mine, does the waxedness of a curb affect how much it grinds away at your trucks? will a buttery curb do less than a sketchy rougher one?

Yes, the more waxed it is the more your truck will glide instead of grind if that makes any sense. Rougher curbs will wear away your truck faster.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: typeischeap on January 15, 2022, 09:18:31 AM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 15, 2022, 04:50:17 PM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?

It may be overkill.
The biggest issue is how much higher your foot is because you may roll your ankle.

Follow up, does anyone know of bags like this?
https://www.nixon.com/us/en/escape-35l-duffel/C3034-3387-00.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LewFarrell on January 15, 2022, 07:00:48 PM
What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: opesorry on January 15, 2022, 07:08:09 PM
I can’t wait to remember all the random questions I can never find answers to, because I love this thread.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on January 15, 2022, 11:18:21 PM
What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?
Ride over brushed concrete. The rougher surface takes the grime off wheels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fat Tony on January 16, 2022, 06:19:39 AM
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Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?
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It may be overkill.
The biggest issue is how much higher your foot is because you may roll your ankle.

Follow up, does anyone know of bags like this?
https://www.nixon.com/us/en/escape-35l-duffel/C3034-3387-00.html

I like putting them in shoes with the tech in the sole or midsole as opposed to all the cushioning being from the insole. That way you have both. I use them in my NB 1010s and nyjahs. But probably wouldn’t in Bruin reacts or the new ishods where all the cushioning comes from the insoles. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LewFarrell on January 16, 2022, 07:19:42 AM
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What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?
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Ride over brushed concrete. The rougher surface takes the grime off wheels

I wish I could but all of our concrete is covered in salt this time of year :'(

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Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?
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It may be overkill.
The biggest issue is how much higher your foot is because you may roll your ankle.

Follow up, does anyone know of bags like this?
https://www.nixon.com/us/en/escape-35l-duffel/C3034-3387-00.html
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I like putting them in shoes with the tech in the sole or midsole as opposed to all the cushioning being from the insole. That way you have both. I use them in my NB 1010s and nyjahs. But probably wouldn’t in Bruin reacts or the new ishods where all the cushioning comes from the insoles.

I do the opposite. Can't rock them in 1010's, even the 3mm's. It's just too much between the deck and my foot. Do like them in thin cups like vans wafflecup/440hi and all vulcs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on January 16, 2022, 08:18:12 AM
What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?


if you’ve gotta garage do a bunch of powerslides there. indoor parking lots n skate parks work too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on January 16, 2022, 08:23:38 AM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?

Could just be me but I find a supportive insole to be much more important than the midsole in terms of actually feeling good. A vulc with a good insole feels more supportive to me than a cupsole with a bad insole.



So in short, idk, if you don't like your insoles, go for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flintstagram on January 16, 2022, 09:20:44 AM
What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?

You can clean them with anything as long as it’s fairly mild. I’ve cleaned my wheels with just a wash rag and warm water when they had grime all over them from an indoor park. You can use dish soap or something if you’re really concerned. If you’re worried about things being wet, pop out your bearings and make sure your wheels are dry before you put them back in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on January 16, 2022, 09:21:03 AM
What's the best way to clean your wheels (F4's specifically)? As an insane and OCD person I just hate the way they look this time of year. Will water fuck up the urethane if I ran it under the tap for 20 seconds and dried with a towel or should I just hit it with a wet rag?

A “dry” way of cleaning may be 400 grit sandpaper. Rub that all over to shine them up. You may need to go higher, say 600 or 800 grit depending on your preference

I doubt water would hurt them but maybe don’t submerge the wheels and use a wet cloth. All purpose cleaner/mild degreaser should do the trick as well

Get a metal polish on your trucks while you’re at it and watch them shine!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flintstagram on January 16, 2022, 09:25:55 AM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?

Yes, there is value. I’ve got old ass feet (I’m 37). I love fp insoles in all of my cupsoles. My go to for a long time has been emerica Reynolds G6 cups with the 7mm fp insoles. Lately I’ve been skating nb# 440s, and I plan to try some 1010s, but typically my fp insoles always move to my shoes, even if they aren’t the shoes I’m currently skating.

With that said, I’ve got some 1010s that I’ve been wearing to work everyday, and they’re the first shoes I’ve had in a long time that I’ve just been rocking the insoles that came in them. 1010s might be the perfect shoe, time will tell once I skate them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on January 16, 2022, 03:29:16 PM
I’m curious what the maximum wheel size/width people use for their trucks?

I thought those 57mm Radial Fulls would be crazy on 149’s. I wasn’t wrong but I kind of like it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on January 16, 2022, 05:33:29 PM
I’m curious what the maximum wheel size/width people use for their trucks?

I thought those 57mm Radial Fulls would be crazy on 149’s. I wasn’t wrong but I kind of like it.

149 of what brand? I rode 56mm bones v6 on my thunders with wheel wells and it turned out alright, but i couldn't imagine doing it with a normal deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on January 16, 2022, 05:56:45 PM
Where do you get the right size drum sanding bit to make your own wheel wells that don’t look super sloppy?
I fucked up today
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on January 16, 2022, 05:57:03 PM
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I’m curious what the maximum wheel size/width people use for their trucks?

I thought those 57mm Radial Fulls would be crazy on 149’s. I wasn’t wrong but I kind of like it.
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149 of what brand? I rode 56mm bones v6 on my thunders with wheel wells and it turned out alright, but i couldn't imagine doing it with a normal deck.

Lurpiv 149 on an 8.5 with wheel wells. I also tried on a setup that has Indy 149 with cast plates but I like the 56 NFG Vee’s better on that one because that deck tapers a lot.

Edit: thanks thats the type of info I was getting at. mostly I’m mostly just curious (for no real reason) about what people prefer: Big wheels small trucks , tiny wheels big trucks, 8.5 trucks with 58mm wheels? Nothing above 54mm on x brand 8.5 trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jgonzalez on January 16, 2022, 06:37:54 PM
What has Robbie Russo been up to
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flintstagram on January 16, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
I’m curious what the maximum wheel size/width people use for their trucks?

I thought those 57mm Radial Fulls would be crazy on 149’s. I wasn’t wrong but I kind of like it.

I rock 56mm formula 4 OG classics with thunder 151s (8.75” axle), on an 8.5 board. I get wheelbite, but I fucking love it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 17, 2022, 05:47:49 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 17, 2022, 06:52:46 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.

skatedeluxe is great for that kind of information
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 17, 2022, 09:28:56 AM
Basement skate from AU is good too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 17, 2022, 02:26:43 PM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
I’ll tell ya one to watch out for…SoCal. Their wrong dimensions have screwed me a few times.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul Cicero on January 17, 2022, 07:18:12 PM
Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 17, 2022, 07:31:13 PM
Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?

They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Reed Richards on January 17, 2022, 09:06:46 PM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.
Also, Travis Scott had his own colorway and started wearing the classic pairs.  That had a lot of people jumping on the follow train.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 17, 2022, 09:16:20 PM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.
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Also, Travis Scott had his own colorway and started wearing the classic pairs.  That had a lot of people jumping on the follow train.

Gonna kook it and admit I have no idea who Travis Scott is, but I believe you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 17, 2022, 10:25:28 PM
Are any of these shoes THAT special? Is like asking a skater…..do you guys ever land anything? 

Yes….but no.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 17, 2022, 11:10:28 PM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.
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Also, Travis Scott had his own colorway and started wearing the classic pairs.  That had a lot of people jumping on the follow train.
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Gonna kook it and admit I have no idea who Travis Scott is, but I believe you.
There's also the timing with the 15 years cycle. It's also basically what Nike have done with Jordans for the last 3 decades. I'd like to know how many new dunk guys even know who Lewis Marnell is.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul Cicero on January 18, 2022, 12:07:27 AM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.

Thanks Mr Stinky. Probably another stupid question - but are dunks the ones with the strap that Louie Marnell rocked?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontfootimpossible on January 18, 2022, 02:00:57 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.

Skatedeluxe.com lists dimensions and you can search/ filter. You can atleast use that to know what a certain board's dimensions are and buy it elsewhere.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Freelancevagrant on January 18, 2022, 04:11:09 AM
What has Robbie Russo been up to

Still skating and getting it. Living his best life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 18, 2022, 04:19:14 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.

Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 18, 2022, 07:52:23 AM
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What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/

https://r-fskate.com/shopdetail/000000004455/tr_independent/page1/order/

Even wheelbase on trucks, albeit only the major brands, Krux, Royal (old stuff) and Ace. And I question the accuracy, Indy 144 Std adds 3.22835"? I thought it was 3".
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 18, 2022, 08:44:25 AM
Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?

It's a pretty interesting story and this video sums it up pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oYObzrvxAE

TLDW after Nike failed to get into the skateboard market, they hired Sandy Bodecker in which he planned and executed an insanely successful marketing campaign:

- Make shoes exclusive to skateshops
- No mass production (artificial scarcity)
- No generic shoe releases

Dunks were reintroduced and redesigned for skateboarding instead of creating an entirely new model. Nike sponsored at the time underground skaters which helped make Nike more established. Thoughtful Dunk collabs (ie Supreme, Stussy, Diamond, Chocolate, etc) were made which got sneakerheads interested and the hype just skyrocketed.

It's at the point where Nike can literally shit out any colorway and it'll sell immediately.

(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Nike-SB-Dunk-Low-Night-Of-Mischief-BQ6817-006-0.jpg)
(https://stockx.imgix.net/Nike-Dunk-SB-High-Raw-Meat-Product.jpg?fit=fill&bg=FFFFFF&w=700&h=500&auto=format,compress&q=90&dpr=2&trim=color&updated_at=1583360568)

Regardless of your opinion on Dunks, skateshops kinda need to keep selling Dunks because it's a guarantee sell on release date which is great for shops that do need the money. I'm personally over it especially after the Travis Scott dunk shit. Working at my shop after that collab was announced hell because sneakerheads kept calling and coming in the shop asking in the most rude way if we were going to stock those dunks (same thing happened when Oski's dunks were announced).

Honestly you aren't missing anything being out of the loop on dunks, which is good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on January 18, 2022, 09:41:43 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.

https://www.slamcity.com/

Great pics to help with shape choice as well.

SPoT
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/cz.aspx?ID=1
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on January 18, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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They looked cool about 15 years ago when cool skaters started skating them so skaters wanted them and bought them. Hypebeasts are despicable cultural parasites who can’t skate, loathe themselves for it, and outnumber actual skateboarders by several times, so they started buying them in huge numbers to compensate for their basic failure as actual skateboarders. Nike saw that they were effortlessly selling out runs of dunks, so they broke up their dunk production into lots of smaller drops to generate artificial scarcity and guarantee every run would sell out.

Dunks should be outlawed. I respect and appreciate skateboarders no matter what’s on their feet (mostly, Cariuma is becoming a problem). So nothing against anyone who skates them, but Nike is genuinely abominable in every dimension of its business practices, no matter how hyped skaters might get on the shoes.
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Also, Travis Scott had his own colorway and started wearing the classic pairs.  That had a lot of people jumping on the follow train.
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Gonna kook it and admit I have no idea who Travis Scott is, but I believe you.

damn i’m surprised you’ve never heard of him. he was make headlines a few months back after 10 people died at his music festival
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on January 18, 2022, 07:08:55 PM
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Can someone explain to me why the Nike dunk is so in demand? I’m completely at a loss when it comes to this hypebeast culture - WTF is going on?
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It's a pretty interesting story and this video sums it up pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oYObzrvxAE

TLDW after Nike failed to get into the skateboard market, they hired Sandy Bodecker in which he planned and executed an insanely successful marketing campaign:

- Make shoes exclusive to skateshops
- No mass production (artificial scarcity)
- No generic shoe releases

Dunks were reintroduced and redesigned for skateboarding instead of creating an entirely new model. Nike sponsored at the time underground skaters which helped make Nike more established. Thoughtful Dunk collabs (ie Supreme, Stussy, Diamond, Chocolate, etc) were made which got sneakerheads interested and the hype just skyrocketed.

It's at the point where Nike can literally shit out any colorway and it'll sell immediately.

(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Nike-SB-Dunk-Low-Night-Of-Mischief-BQ6817-006-0.jpg)
(https://stockx.imgix.net/Nike-Dunk-SB-High-Raw-Meat-Product.jpg?fit=fill&bg=FFFFFF&w=700&h=500&auto=format,compress&q=90&dpr=2&trim=color&updated_at=1583360568)

Regardless of your opinion on Dunks, skateshops kinda need to keep selling Dunks because it's a guarantee sell on release date which is great for shops that do need the money. I'm personally over it especially after the Travis Scott dunk shit. Working at my shop after that collab was announced hell because sneakerheads kept calling and coming in the shop asking in the most rude way if we were going to stock those dunks (same thing happened when Oski's dunks were announced).

Honestly you aren't missing anything being out of the loop on dunks, which is good.

Fascinating that Peter Moore was majorly involved, he's been such a player in the Video Game industry for so long.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Eric Dolphy on January 19, 2022, 11:33:02 AM
What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
Socal Skate are also pretty good for this https://socalskateshop.com/

Edit: Oh damn, apparently not
I’ll tell ya one to watch out for…SoCal. Their wrong dimensions have screwed me a few times.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lazyskater on January 19, 2022, 12:56:29 PM
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Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?
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Yes, there is value. I’ve got old ass feet (I’m 37). I love fp insoles in all of my cupsoles. My go to for a long time has been emerica Reynolds G6 cups with the 7mm fp insoles. Lately I’ve been skating nb# 440s, and I plan to try some 1010s, but typically my fp insoles always move to my shoes, even if they aren’t the shoes I’m currently skating.

With that said, I’ve got some 1010s that I’ve been wearing to work everyday, and they’re the first shoes I’ve had in a long time that I’ve just been rocking the insoles that came in them. 1010s might be the perfect shoe, time will tell once I skate them.

I have planters and can skate for hours in 1010s with the original insole. Only show I can do that in
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jgonzalez on January 19, 2022, 02:45:19 PM
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What has Robbie Russo been up to
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Still skating and getting it. Living his best life.

Haven’t seen a part in a min. I was thinking about his beauty and the beast footage the other day. Lurked his IG seems to be consistently skating. Would be cool to see a part sometime
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 19, 2022, 02:52:58 PM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?

If you have a tendency to roll your ankles, maybe be wary as it makes your foot sit higher in the shoe if the stock insole is paper thin (and the arch support may push your feet outwards a little too), especially if the shoe isn't particularly stable or structured.

If it feels secure and you're not an ankle roller, knock on wood and go ahead. Super comfortable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 19, 2022, 05:07:54 PM
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Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?
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If you have a tendency to roll your ankles, maybe be wary as it makes your foot sit higher in the shoe if the stock insole is paper thin (and the arch support may push your feet outwards a little too), especially if the shoe isn't particularly stable or structured.

If it feels secure and you're not an ankle roller, knock on wood and go ahead. Super comfortable.

Depending on how flat your feet / how much your arch has collapsed, FP Gamechangers may not be a good fit for you. I've had very flat feet for years and developed bunions and very prone to ankle rolls even jogging or walking on flat surfaces.

For flat feet you really want sturdy arch support to elevate and correct the arch. I recommend something stiffer with a TPU insert like the Superfeet Carbon / Copper. Those have been a real game changer for me, only had minor ankle rolls when coupled with a brace, and even when it does happen I'm good after a 10 minute break.

FP provide more cushion than support, the latter of which is more important for preventing ankle sprains. I've tried gel insoles that claim to support the arch (bungle upwards in the middle) but they flattened out and didn't elevate the arch sufficiently.

TLDR: get a more rigid one from a reputable brand (Soul, Superfeet) if you have flat feet and need arch support.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on January 19, 2022, 05:44:55 PM
whats the durometer for bushings that are on the Venture hollow lights?
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Post by: Freelancevagrant on January 19, 2022, 07:06:07 PM
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What has Robbie Russo been up to
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Still skating and getting it. Living his best life.
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Haven’t seen a part in a min. I was thinking about his beauty and the beast footage the other day. Lurked his IG seems to be consistently skating. Would be cool to see a part sometime

I haven’t either and I’m bummed on it. I remember skating with him around that era (more so watching him and Ronnie and being really fucking bummed at how he was clearly better than I ever would be). But his duets part with Ronnie is among my all time favorites. I think he’s going to a technical school, that’s at least my guess.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Taraval on January 19, 2022, 07:10:32 PM
My filmer bag kind of went to shit. Does anyone have a camera bag they swear by? For a Panasonic hvx
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on January 19, 2022, 07:37:20 PM
whats the durometer for bushings that are on the Venture hollow lights?

90a
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on January 19, 2022, 09:06:15 PM
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What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/

Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2022, 09:28:25 PM
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whats the durometer for bushings that are on the Venture hollow lights?
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90a


It is funny how the big three - Indy, Thunder and Venture - all now have the 90 duro bushings as their stock product, as they were quite different and mostly harder in the past.

What is also strange is even though they are all supposed to be the same, some different colours seem harder / softer.

Anyone else seem like this is the case too?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 19, 2022, 09:38:15 PM
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What are the best skate shops out there for searching decks by specific widths, lengths, and wheelbases? Right now I use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and OCD Skate Shop but there has to be more/better options out there.
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/
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Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!


Given we are almost global in member base, I think it is fair to say that lots of shops would get a mention, but there are more likely to be more mentions of the really good shops, (or bad) for various reasons.

Their board information is amazing though, so it is good to give them more recognition and hopefully a few more customers as well.


What is the shop setup like to go in to as the pics look crazily cramped?



From the bottom of their pages:


This site "R-F SKATE" is
a skateboard mail order site sent out by the strange shop "Tatsumiya" which sells skateboards for about 20 years in an old stationery shop, close to Komazawa Park, one of the famous skate parks near Tokyo.

about tatsumiya

1-11-18 yakumo, meguro-ku, tokyo / 03-3723-4288
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on January 19, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
How do you guys calculate shipping prices for what you sell on the classifieds? Got a number of boards I’d like to sell, but wondering how to accurately price shipping. Also, for people who ship boards, do you just reuse other boxes or is there a preferred size to use for shipping?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 20, 2022, 02:39:07 AM
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/
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Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!

Which one? If you mean RF is your local then please, please go buy them a case of beer or bag of weed and then send me your PayPal so I can reimburse you. I've used their site to make a decision on whether or not to buy a board so many times. It's really the next best thing to physically going to a shop. I wish everyone did the pics with a reference board thing.

If it's southside i emailed them once to ask what the stack stamp on a dlx deck was and they started like questioning why I wanted to know that and then trying to tell me that it didn't matter because dlx decks weren't steep (they are) and PS decks are steeper because FA (they're not, and FA had been purely bbs for over a year at this point) and shit like that. So if they're your local go pour saltwater in the owners bearings or something.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on January 20, 2022, 05:19:42 AM
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/
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Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!
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Which one? If you mean RF is your local then please, please go buy them a case of beer or bag of weed and then send me your PayPal so I can reimburse you. I've used their site to make a decision on whether or not to buy a board so many times. It's really the next best thing to physically going to a shop. I wish everyone did the pics with a reference board thing.

If it's southside i emailed them once to ask what the stack stamp on a dlx deck was and they started like questioning why I wanted to know that and then trying to tell me that it didn't matter because dlx decks weren't steep (they are) and PS decks are steeper because FA (they're not, and FA had been purely bbs for over a year at this point) and shit like that. So if they're your local go pour saltwater in the owners bearings or something.

I’ve ordered from R-F several times, always great service (they used to send a free burned DVD with each order).

But with Japan’s drug laws, beer is a way safer choice than tipping them with weed. For everyone involved.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flintstagram on January 20, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
How do you guys calculate shipping prices for what you sell on the classifieds? Got a number of boards I’d like to sell, but wondering how to accurately price shipping. Also, for people who ship boards, do you just reuse other boxes or is there a preferred size to use for shipping?

I take a wild ass guess on shipping, and add it to the price, so instead of $30 and whatever shipping is, I’ll just throw out $38 shipped or whatever. I usually underestimate shipping, but if it’s stuff I don’t want anymore, and I already spent money on, making back some money is better than no money.

I usually try to reuse board boxes I’ve gotten from other places. If you have the dimensions and weight, you can get prices from usps and/or ups before anyone pays you if they tell you the zip code.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on January 20, 2022, 10:14:24 AM
Usps is cheaper than most of the time.

Be aware of flat rate boxes

Minimize packaging. Take the trucks apart if they’ll fit in a smaller box.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kelbywest on January 20, 2022, 10:48:20 AM
How do you guys calculate shipping prices for what you sell on the classifieds? Got a number of boards I’d like to sell, but wondering how to accurately price shipping. Also, for people who ship boards, do you just reuse other boxes or is there a preferred size to use for shipping?

You can take the weight/dims of the box(es) you use and use that info to research the cheapest way to ship. I use Paypal almost every time I sell something and it's cheaper than going to the post office in person. You can enter all the info on there and it will calculate everything + create the label for you to print.

Last deck I shipped was in a 33x8x5.5 box and it weighed about 3 lbs. Shipped it from PA-NC for about $8 to give you an idea (USPS ground)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FakieFlipCG on January 20, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
- Has Nike or Adidas ever reissued an old skate model?

- For the people in the know, is it reasonable to expect that they would ever do that?

- What I'm really trying to say is: am I fool for hoping Nike brings back the Koston 1?

- Is money really the only thing that is considered when deciding who gets a pro model?

- Was the Adidas Suciu II really not profitable enough to produce throughout his SOTY year?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on January 20, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
- Has Nike or Adidas ever reissued an old skate model?

- For the people in the know, is it reasonable to expect that they would ever do that?

- What I'm really trying to say is: am I fool for hoping Nike brings back the Koston 1?

- Is money really the only thing that is considered when deciding who gets a pro model?

- Was the Adidas Suciu II really not profitable enough to produce throughout his SOTY year?

nike reissued the p-rod 1, adidas reissued the o'reardon from 1996 or 97 and thanks to @Sk.A.T.A.N they have the adimatic lined up next. the p-rod 1 came out for the 10th anniversary of its first drop, koston's 10th anniversary was last year soooo...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on January 20, 2022, 11:44:06 AM

- What I'm really trying to say is: am I fool for hoping Nike brings back the Koston 1?


The Koston 1 was literally made to promote Nikes Lunarion insole. I doubt they would ever re-release it considering Nike phased out all their lunarion shoes for the React insole and the Bruins React are almost the same exact shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 20, 2022, 11:53:39 AM
How do you guys calculate shipping prices for what you sell on the classifieds? Got a number of boards I’d like to sell, but wondering how to accurately price shipping. Also, for people who ship boards, do you just reuse other boxes or is there a preferred size to use for shipping?

Make an account on https://goshippo.com/ Every time you need to ship something, put in your address, their address, and the weight and dimensions of the package. It'll give you a range of options, mostly USPS and UPS. You can directly buy the label from there, print it out, put it on the package and just drop it off at the post office or UPS store.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 20, 2022, 03:38:41 PM
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/
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Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!
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Which one? If you mean RF is your local then please, please go buy them a case of beer or bag of weed and then send me your PayPal so I can reimburse you. I've used their site to make a decision on whether or not to buy a board so many times. It's really the next best thing to physically going to a shop. I wish everyone did the pics with a reference board thing.

If it's southside i emailed them once to ask what the stack stamp on a dlx deck was and they started like questioning why I wanted to know that and then trying to tell me that it didn't matter because dlx decks weren't steep (they are) and PS decks are steeper because FA (they're not, and FA had been purely bbs for over a year at this point) and shit like that. So if they're your local go pour saltwater in the owners bearings or something.


Interesting feedback and yes I have also had some weird responses from some shops when asking about specific things, but happily most shops have been really helpful, some even asking about it (but I usually explain why I am asking in the initial email) but none have been downright stupid like that.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on January 20, 2022, 05:21:51 PM
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Southside skate shop in Houston usually lists length. Zumiez is good for top pics if you're trying to  figure out the woodshop.

Some of the best ones are actually Japanese shops. Rf skate is my favourite, you have to use Google translate but it's easy enough to navigate. They take detailed pics and actually measure every deck (in cm so it's even more accurate) and lay the deck on top of a krooked board so you can see how flat or steep it is in comparison. Hell, they even measure concave. It's heaven for mentally ill gear nerds. There's a couple other sites that take similar pics but rf has a huge selection, updates it fairly often, and leave the old ones up for a while after they sell out so you can still use it for reference.

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/
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Can't believe someone mentioned my local shop on here!
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Given we are almost global in member base, I think it is fair to say that lots of shops would get a mention, but there are more likely to be more mentions of the really good shops, (or bad) for various reasons.

Their board information is amazing though, so it is good to give them more recognition and hopefully a few more customers as well.


What is the shop setup like to go in to as the pics look crazily cramped?



From the bottom of their pages:


This site "R-F SKATE" is
a skateboard mail order site sent out by the strange shop "Tatsumiya" which sells skateboards for about 20 years in an old stationery shop, close to Komazawa Park, one of the famous skate parks near Tokyo.

about tatsumiya

1-11-18 yakumo, meguro-ku, tokyo / 03-3723-4288

It's a trip. He runs it out of his very elderly dad's tiny stationary store. From the outside, you'd never guess that it's a skateshop. On the inside, there's pens and shit on the left, and a huge rack of decks on the right. He keeps most of the gear in the back, though. They share the register, which is usually full of pens, bearings and wheels. There's also a small bench and a TV showing skate videos, and cardboard on the floor for testing out your decks. That's about it. I'll support R-F as long as it sticks around.

Just FYI to anyone who might hit it up when coming to Tokyo, it's not actually that close to Komazawa skatepark (my local). It's a 5 minute walk from Toritsu-Daigaku station (Toyoko Line).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on January 20, 2022, 05:32:22 PM
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whats the durometer for bushings that are on the Venture hollow lights?
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90a
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It is funny how the big three - Indy, Thunder and Venture - all now have the 90 duro bushings as their stock product, as they were quite different and mostly harder in the past.

What is also strange is even though they are all supposed to be the same, some different colours seem harder / softer.

Anyone else seem like this is the case too?

yeah i feel this and i routinely use this logic to back up my "opaque bushings better than clear bushings" argument that has 0 scientific or well thought out backing
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 20, 2022, 05:42:59 PM
I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 20, 2022, 06:13:39 PM
- Has Nike or Adidas ever reissued an old skate model?

- For the people in the know, is it reasonable to expect that they would ever do that?

- What I'm really trying to say is: am I fool for hoping Nike brings back the Koston 1?

- Is money really the only thing that is considered when deciding who gets a pro model?

- Was the Adidas Suciu II really not profitable enough to produce throughout his SOTY year?
The bruin, blazers and gt blazers have all come gone and come back a couple times.
Suciu 2 was a few years ago, I'd guess Adidas would make a suciu 3 if they were going to do something for soty (but more likely give him just a few colours of existing shoes)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 20, 2022, 06:22:44 PM
I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?


Sounds like the average DLX 8" deck, with 14.38 wb, would be about what you are after, any number, but one with a III or IV on top if possible as they are slightly more mellow, but that would pair well with Thunders easily enough and whatever wheels you prefer.

Many other boards around 8" have shorter wheelbases, but the DLX 8" is skated and enjoyed by a lot of people, so there has to be some logic to keep that shape / dimensions.


As for how high you can ollie and age, I would say it is more muscle training and keeping at it, but also not trying to overdo it with leg work (too many leg reps on exercise machines or gym, etc) so just doing some other things to build strength if you feel that is lacking in the jumping department.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 20, 2022, 08:11:52 PM
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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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Sounds like the average DLX 8" deck, with 14.38 wb, would be about what you are after, any number, but one with a III or IV on top if possible as they are slightly more mellow, but that would pair well with Thunders easily enough and whatever wheels you prefer.

Many other boards around 8" have shorter wheelbases, but the DLX 8" is skated and enjoyed by a lot of people, so there has to be some logic to keep that shape / dimensions.


As for how high you can ollie and age, I would say it is more muscle training and keeping at it, but also not trying to overdo it with leg work (too many leg reps on exercise machines or gym, etc) so just doing some other things to build strength if you feel that is lacking in the jumping department.

Awesome, I'll definitely check out the DLX catalogue! I've never really rocked the full DLX setup and I'm thinking that it's definitely worth trying. You're a fountain of knowledge and it's much appreciated!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on January 21, 2022, 01:51:49 AM
I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?

There is a thing called physics.

To make it short: You want a force (your pop) to make an object (you) go further in a direction (higher), with a lever (your set up).


Thoughts (in non particular order):

The only variable in above formula is the set up. (Unless you want to work out that is. :D)
 
The heavier something is- the further it goes. Think about throwing a table tennis ball and a golf ball.
But honestly you can forget about that, because you have to throw the board + yourself around, so the weight of your set up makes no big difference.

You want to go up. So the lever should channel the force in a steep curve.
The way you are about to go, to avoid ghost pop, will make it flatter. That means even if you pop harder you wouldn't go higher.



Conclusion:

The easiest way to get your ollies higher is simply a steeper set up.*
Short/ Steep tail, risers, big wheels, you name it.
I'm afraid you have to adjust your technique to that, in regards of "ghostpop".
Or gain more power. Or loose some weight.

...On the other hand skateboarding is not rocket science. Psychologie + spirit play a role, too.

So, ride what you like and what feels good.

Have fun experimanting!

Hope this makes sense /Sorry for the gibberish.



*I remember some 1990ish Decks that were just ridiculously steep (Deathbox "Rocker", G&S "Heintzman"...)
Barely useable for anything else, but they made you ollie two more stacked boards. And that was a thing back then. ("How high can you ollie?")

Edited for punctation.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 21, 2022, 03:12:28 AM
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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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There is a thing called physics.

To make it short: You want a force (your pop) to make an object (you) go further in a direction (higher), with a lever (your set up).


Thoughts (in non particular order):

The only variable in above formula is the set up. (Unless you want to work out that is. :D)
 
The heavier something is- the further it goes. Think about throwing a table tennis ball and a golf ball.
But honestly you can forget about that, because you have to throw the board + yourself around, so the weight of your set up makes no big difference.

You want to go up. So the lever should channel the force in a steep curve.
The way you are about to go, to avoid ghost pop, will make it flatter. That means even if you pop harder you wouldn't go higher.



Conclusion:

The easiest way to get your ollies higher is simply a steeper set up.*
Short/ Steep tail, risers, big wheels, you name it.
I'm afraid you have to adjust your technique to that, in regards of "ghostpop".
Or gain more power. Or loose some weight.

...On the other hand skateboarding is not rocket science. Psychologie + spirit play a role, too.

So, ride what you like and what feels good.

Have fun experimanting!

Hope this makes sense /Sorry for the gibberish.



*I remember some 1990ish Decks that were just ridiculously steep (Deathbox "Rocker", G&S "Heintzman"...)
Barely useable for anything else, but they made you ollie two more stacked boards. And that was a thing back then. ("How high can you ollie?")

Edited for punctation.
There's also a pretty big difference between Ollie over knee high comfortably and trying to get around world record Ollie. If the main problem is ghost pop then a lower flatter board is probably the go to. To go real high big wheels and maybe even ride your board backwards is how I'd do it.
There's also a bit of a see-saw technique that can help a lot going over things
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on January 21, 2022, 04:21:07 AM
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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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There is a thing called physics.

To make it short: You want a force (your pop) to make an object (you) go further in a direction (higher), with a lever (your set up).


Thoughts (in non particular order):

The only variable in above formula is the set up. (Unless you want to work out that is. :D)
 
The heavier something is- the further it goes. Think about throwing a table tennis ball and a golf ball.
But honestly you can forget about that, because you have to throw the board + yourself around, so the weight of your set up makes no big difference.

You want to go up. So the lever should channel the force in a steep curve.
The way you are about to go, to avoid ghost pop, will make it flatter. That means even if you pop harder you wouldn't go higher.



Conclusion:

The easiest way to get your ollies higher is simply a steeper set up.*
Short/ Steep tail, risers, big wheels, you name it.
I'm afraid you have to adjust your technique to that, in regards of "ghostpop".
Or gain more power. Or loose some weight.

...On the other hand skateboarding is not rocket science. Psychologie + spirit play a role, too.

So, ride what you like and what feels good.

Have fun experimanting!

Hope this makes sense /Sorry for the gibberish.



*I remember some 1990ish Decks that were just ridiculously steep (Deathbox "Rocker", G&S "Heintzman"...)
Barely useable for anything else, but they made you ollie two more stacked boards. And that was a thing back then. ("How high can you ollie?")

Edited for punctation.
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There's also a pretty big difference between Ollie over knee high comfortably and trying to get around world record Ollie. If the main problem is ghost pop then a lower flatter board is probably the go to. To go real high big wheels and maybe even ride your board backwards is how I'd do it.
There's also a bit of a see-saw technique that can help a lot going over things

Well...yeah. Guess I overshot the target.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 21, 2022, 09:37:25 AM
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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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There is a thing called physics.

To make it short: You want a force (your pop) to make an object (you) go further in a direction (higher), with a lever (your set up).


Thoughts (in non particular order):

The only variable in above formula is the set up. (Unless you want to work out that is. :D)
 
The heavier something is- the further it goes. Think about throwing a table tennis ball and a golf ball.
But honestly you can forget about that, because you have to throw the board + yourself around, so the weight of your set up makes no big difference.

You want to go up. So the lever should channel the force in a steep curve.
The way you are about to go, to avoid ghost pop, will make it flatter. That means even if you pop harder you wouldn't go higher.



Conclusion:

The easiest way to get your ollies higher is simply a steeper set up.*
Short/ Steep tail, risers, big wheels, you name it.
I'm afraid you have to adjust your technique to that, in regards of "ghostpop".
Or gain more power. Or loose some weight.

...On the other hand skateboarding is not rocket science. Psychologie + spirit play a role, too.

So, ride what you like and what feels good.

Have fun experimanting!

Hope this makes sense /Sorry for the gibberish.



*I remember some 1990ish Decks that were just ridiculously steep (Deathbox "Rocker", G&S "Heintzman"...)
Barely useable for anything else, but they made you ollie two more stacked boards. And that was a thing back then. ("How high can you ollie?")

Edited for punctation.
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There's also a pretty big difference between Ollie over knee high comfortably and trying to get around world record Ollie. If the main problem is ghost pop then a lower flatter board is probably the go to. To go real high big wheels and maybe even ride your board backwards is how I'd do it.
There's also a bit of a see-saw technique that can help a lot going over things
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Well...yeah. Guess I overshot the target.

Thanks guys, appreciate what you both said! I've honestly skated steep-kick boards and they're not my thing. I get ghost pop easily. I know a lot of my ollie is based on the right technique and just raw practice as well. I've been doing cardio almost every day since Nov. to get to 150 lbs from 160, I can't burn fat easily so it's taking time. You can never have too many solid gear tips though, haha. I mean, I think it's possible to improve my ollie at 36 years old, fuck we'll see.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: user18081971 on January 21, 2022, 01:31:52 PM
I feel like tensor mags and a dlx 8.06 is what you need
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SchizophrenicFatBoy on January 21, 2022, 02:05:10 PM
Should I go down half or full size in (rubber-backed canvas) CTAS Pro Hi compared to Sole Tech shoes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 21, 2022, 02:18:45 PM
Should I go down half or full size in (rubber-backed canvas) CTAS Pro Hi compared to Sole Tech shoes?

You should be good with going down a half size, but if you can go somewhere locally to try them on, that would probably be the best way to determine what will work best for you. Not sure if I'm the only one, but I also go half size down for the Louie's even though most listings say they're TTS
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: user18081971 on January 21, 2022, 02:25:24 PM
I found that the sizing has changed for cons and I have to go full size down now, at least for ctas. One stars might still be half size downs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Jeffrey on January 21, 2022, 10:45:12 PM
Reminder that diet is like 80% of weight loss. You can't out run a bad diet. Cardio is great overall for your health, but extremely shit for weight loss. Sure, if you're already operating on a very tight diet, tossing in more cardio will see weight loss. But I can out eat an hour of running in 2 minutes. Easily. A

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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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There is a thing called physics.

To make it short: You want a force (your pop) to make an object (you) go further in a direction (higher), with a lever (your set up).


Thoughts (in non particular order):

The only variable in above formula is the set up. (Unless you want to work out that is. :D)
 
The heavier something is- the further it goes. Think about throwing a table tennis ball and a golf ball.
But honestly you can forget about that, because you have to throw the board + yourself around, so the weight of your set up makes no big difference.

You want to go up. So the lever should channel the force in a steep curve.
The way you are about to go, to avoid ghost pop, will make it flatter. That means even if you pop harder you wouldn't go higher.



Conclusion:

The easiest way to get your ollies higher is simply a steeper set up.*
Short/ Steep tail, risers, big wheels, you name it.
I'm afraid you have to adjust your technique to that, in regards of "ghostpop".
Or gain more power. Or loose some weight.

...On the other hand skateboarding is not rocket science. Psychologie + spirit play a role, too.

So, ride what you like and what feels good.

Have fun experimanting!

Hope this makes sense /Sorry for the gibberish.



*I remember some 1990ish Decks that were just ridiculously steep (Deathbox "Rocker", G&S "Heintzman"...)
Barely useable for anything else, but they made you ollie two more stacked boards. And that was a thing back then. ("How high can you ollie?")

Edited for punctation.
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There's also a pretty big difference between Ollie over knee high comfortably and trying to get around world record Ollie. If the main problem is ghost pop then a lower flatter board is probably the go to. To go real high big wheels and maybe even ride your board backwards is how I'd do it.
There's also a bit of a see-saw technique that can help a lot going over things
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Well...yeah. Guess I overshot the target.
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Thanks guys, appreciate what you both said! I've honestly skated steep-kick boards and they're not my thing. I get ghost pop easily. I know a lot of my ollie is based on the right technique and just raw practice as well. I've been doing cardio almost every day since Nov. to get to 150 lbs from 160, I can't burn fat easily so it's taking time. You can never have too many solid gear tips though, haha. I mean, I think it's possible to improve my ollie at 36 years old, fuck we'll see.
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Post by: cucktard on January 22, 2022, 01:22:00 AM

Thanks guys, appreciate what you both said! I've honestly skated steep-kick boards and they're not my thing. I get ghost pop easily. I know a lot of my ollie is based on the right technique and just raw practice as well. I've been doing cardio almost every day since Nov. to get to 150 lbs from 160, I can't burn fat easily so it's taking time. You can never have too many solid gear tips though, haha. I mean, I think it's possible to improve my ollie at 36 years old, fuck we'll see.

Good luck, I’m trying to relearn/improve my ollie at 46
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 22, 2022, 09:54:05 AM
I feel like tensor mags and a dlx 8.06 is what you need

Yeah I'm thinking an anti-hero brown classic eagle!

You're totally right @Uncle Jeffrey and I've been cutting cheese, chocolate, simple carbs to try and get some flab off me

Good luck @cucktard we can get there gosh darnit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie varial flip on January 22, 2022, 10:12:10 PM
Are there any shoes or insoles that can help with persistent lower and mid back pain from skating?

I hurt my back doing other sports (psoas injury and SI joint injury) but now skating with the stock vans insoles feels like its murdering my back. This was never a problem previously. I do have a full yoga and stretching routine, see a PT, and have an osteo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 22, 2022, 10:21:18 PM
Are there any shoes or insoles that can help with persistent lower and mid back pain from skating?

I hurt my back doing other sports (psoas injury and SI joint injury) but now skating with the stock vans insoles feels like its murdering my back. This was never a problem previously. I do have a full yoga and stretching routine, see a PT, and have an osteo.
I've had a bunch of back issues for the past ten years and strangely wearing classic vans kinda helps sometimes for me. I also wear some Adidas boost runners or those Stefan janoski airmax for day to day stuff.
I don't know if there's any specific shoe or insole that fixes back pain while actually skating tho. If the pain comes specifically when your feet hit the ground maybe those DC Kalis if they have a unilite midsole
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 06:50:32 AM
I’m oddly the same. I’ve got zero ligaments in one ankle from a ball fall and my other hip has no labrum and pops out of its socket from another crash. My other sport is rock climbing and I have persistent foot soreness and weird pains from wearing super small shoes. The new Vans Popcush insoles have just enough padding to take some impact sting off, but they’re also fairly stable and I don’t get any lateral roll.

My other favorite shoes are NB 440 and those make my feet sore after a long sesh but the Vans don’t.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 06:55:04 AM
Does a bigger nose improve flick or make it worse? I was thinking more contact patch with the shoe as it flicks off would make it come around faster after the shoe leaves, but delay when the shoe was in contact.

Also another weird question- I’ve noticed on one setup (Crail G052, Thunder 148 Team Hollow, 52 classics) that I have less pop in a straight line like doing fakie Ollie’s, but more when doing 180 stuff. How the fucking is that, it’s maddening?
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Post by: JugeL on January 23, 2022, 07:03:58 AM
Does a bigger nose improve flick or make it worse? I was thinking more contact patch with the shoe as it flicks off would make it come around faster after the shoe leaves, but delay when the shoe was in contact.
For me, bigger nose has always made me think that i can really flick the shit out of my flip tricks. If you want actual science, i have none
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie varial flip on January 23, 2022, 09:31:50 AM
I’m oddly the same. I’ve got zero ligaments in one ankle from a ball fall and my other hip has no labrum and pops out of its socket from another crash. My other sport is rock climbing and I have persistent foot soreness and weird pains from wearing super small shoes. The new Vans Popcush insoles have just enough padding to take some impact sting off, but they’re also fairly stable and I don’t get any lateral roll.

My other favorite shoes are NB 440 and those make my feet sore after a long sesh but the Vans don’t.
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Are there any shoes or insoles that can help with persistent lower and mid back pain from skating?

I hurt my back doing other sports (psoas injury and SI joint injury) but now skating with the stock vans insoles feels like its murdering my back. This was never a problem previously. I do have a full yoga and stretching routine, see a PT, and have an osteo.
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I've had a bunch of back issues for the past ten years and strangely wearing classic vans kinda helps sometimes for me. I also wear some Adidas boost runners or those Stefan janoski airmax for day to day stuff.
I don't know if there's any specific shoe or insole that fixes back pain while actually skating tho. If the pain comes specifically when your feet hit the ground maybe those DC Kalis if they have a unilite midsole

Thanks guys - I was wondering whether I needed a more 'maximal' shoe like the 1010 and I'm happy it doesn't seem like that's the case. I realized after reading these responses (and feeling my achilles and hip this morning) I used to replace the vans insole with a flatter one from FP and I can't recall having this problem then. The back pain pops up hours later, and I always feel fine during the session.

I know a lot of people need more cushion in their shoes, but it appears that I need more flexible shoes, so I might just take a break from my clunky-ass Rowans. Typically when hiking or in daily life I use more minimal shoes which help my back a lot - I think because they allow me to use my arch more - so I was making sure I'm not missing out on some back-pain-mitigating-cushion. It's good to hear I'm not  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2022, 09:45:43 AM
It’s also dependent on your overall physical well being. Back pain often comes from lack of strength as you age. Finding something you enjoy that effectively strengthens joints via resistance is crucial as you age even for overall well being.
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Post by: Jowiththeflow on January 23, 2022, 10:01:30 AM
Lately I noticed a growing number of set ups with just one rail, what's the point? And where do you put it? Heelside or toeside? And, again, why?
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Post by: fakie varial flip on January 23, 2022, 10:04:27 AM
It’s also dependent on your overall physical well being. Back pain often comes from lack of strength as you age. Finding something you enjoy that effectively strengthens joints via resistance is crucial as you age even for overall well being.

This is unfortunately a big part of my problem. I went from a competitive amateur powerlifter to using only kettlebells during covid, and the weaknesses that you get from powerlifting (notably, lack of focus on specific core strength) becomes a real issue. The back pain issue is a direct result of that and office work. Can't recommend specific core strength exercises (ESPECIALLY static exercises) to everyone enough, don't be a dummy like me
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Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 23, 2022, 11:40:15 AM
Lately I noticed a growing number of set ups with just one rail, what's the point? And where do you put it? Heelside or toeside? And, again, why?

Toe side for me, they help control when you boardslide. Although it may get annoying when you try front board but hitting the board helps me feel more in control.
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Post by: munchbox on January 23, 2022, 03:37:27 PM
who else has severe confidence issues with smaller boards?
swear i had my best flip tricks on 8.75s
looked good with the slower flip and more consistent
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on January 23, 2022, 09:31:26 PM
how does the width of a truck affect the turning, if at all?
i'm mainly asking because my friend's 5.2 ventures didn't turn as much as i would want on one of my setups, would a 5.8 handle them any differently?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FrontsideFrank on January 23, 2022, 11:58:16 PM
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Lately I noticed a growing number of set ups with just one rail, what's the point? And where do you put it? Heelside or toeside? And, again, why?
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Toe side for me, they help control when you boardslide. Although it may get annoying when you try front board but hitting the board helps me feel more in control.

I've been rocking a single, toe side rail consistently for awhile now. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do a single heelside. I came up never skating with them (they weren't really around in the late 90s/early 2000s and if they were they would have gotten you kooked off the spot). When I started playing around with them, I found a single was a good compromise/best of both sides. You get the easier balance from 2 points of contact and easier slide for boardslides/feebles/smiths, but there is still a little resistance from sliding on the wood and its way less slick on coping than 2 rails.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2022, 07:06:32 AM
who else has severe confidence issues with smaller boards?
swear i had my best flip tricks on 8.75s
looked good with the slower flip and more consistent

I’m the opposite- the bulkier the setup the more I worry about primo’ing and the worse my lock in is. I’ve gone up to 8.75 mostly with the same trucks and WB and hated it. Just never could get used to it. I’m 6 foot 3 but only a size 9.5 or 10 so maybe that’s it I dunno.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontfootimpossible on January 24, 2022, 07:55:27 AM
I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?

I admire your quest. I too am longing to ollie higher - or get back to my best ollie height. At my prime I could jump over an oil drum/ nyc trash can and I think I'd really struggle if I tried now. 2022 goals

I actually set out to film a clip of a high ollie to drop and specifically chose a longer wheelbase board and it didn't work out. I'd say stick with your current wheelbase, having more distance to slide your foot up does not help the way you think it would. Theoretically it makes sense, but practice is different.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 24, 2022, 08:22:15 AM
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I'd like to focus on ollieing higher this year, since it's probably my last year to be able to develop my ollie before I get too old. I just want to ollie over things the height of my knee, no big goals here.

I usually ride boards that have or are close to 8x31.5x14 dimensions, since that fits my average height, shoe size, and weight.

So, I'm thinking of the following setup:

1) A board with roughly the same width and length, but a longer wheelbase, maybe 14.5 inches, but with mellow kicks and concave so I can avoid ghost pop
2) I'd pair this longer-wheelbase board with a high truck, like Thunder Hollow his, and possibly riser pads
3) Smaller wheels, because bigger wheels can contribute to ghost pop

This is what I'm thinking so far, if anyone has any ideas on what to suggest or improve, I'd be happy to hear them.

Also, there's a lot of talk about how light boards and trucks are gimmicks and you need some leverage to pop, but I'm kind of feeling like the lightest deck and trucks are the way to go. Can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
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I admire your quest. I too am longing to ollie higher - or get back to my best ollie height. At my prime I could jump over an oil drum/ nyc trash can and I think I'd really struggle if I tried now. 2022 goals

I actually set out to film a clip of a high ollie to drop and specifically chose a longer wheelbase board and it didn't work out. I'd say stick with your current wheelbase, having more distance to slide your foot up does not help the way you think it would. Theoretically it makes sense, but practice is different.
I think the foot far back thing can only really work if you're kinda short. I think about it like how would you setup your feet if you were just standing on the floor and tried to jump as high as you can.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2022, 09:17:22 AM
Not sure how it applies but in most sports that require a high vertical leap there isn’t defined stance widths and ratios. I think you need to figure out the comfortable setup that works for you. I don’t think Ollie height has changed much since the late 90’s/early 2000’s and boards got bigger for other reasons.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on January 25, 2022, 01:28:09 AM
how does the width of a truck affect the turning, if at all?
i'm mainly asking because my friend's 5.2 ventures didn't turn as much as i would want on one of my setups, would a 5.8 handle them any differently?

from my experience the wider the truck the slower the turn. also hotrodding will give you slighty less leverage for the turn. i dont think the actual turn radious is affected on same brand trucks, just the reaction time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 25, 2022, 01:33:02 AM
how does the width of a truck affect the turning, if at all?
i'm mainly asking because my friend's 5.2 ventures didn't turn as much as i would want on one of my setups, would a 5.8 handle them any differently?

My 5.6s turned a little bit sharper than my 5.8s, nothing that you don't adjust to within about 20-30 minutes though.

Truck tightness, your bushing/pivot cup setup etc matter a lot more than going up and down a quarter inch in truck size when it comes to turning radius imo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 25, 2022, 07:16:26 AM
how does the width of a truck affect the turning, if at all?
i'm mainly asking because my friend's 5.2 ventures didn't turn as much as i would want on one of my setups, would a 5.8 handle them any differently?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.10740

Answered here: the wider the fulcrum the less effort is required to turn. So, wider might be “looser” as in easier to turn.

Ventures have a very specific lean/turn to them to begin with so you might not like it still, but it’s worth trying. I personally like 139-144 width trucks the best as I can run them a bit looser but feel more stable. When I had 149s on decks I once wore through a ply from wheelbite
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 26, 2022, 05:49:07 AM
Is Scram grip tape any good? What about Madness?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: europa1991 on January 26, 2022, 08:29:52 AM
Dude whatever happened to the Slap coupon on Orchard’s website
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 26, 2022, 09:39:27 AM
I have a BBS Quasi that I just noticed bows up from nose to tail meaning that if you set it on a flat surface only the middle of the deck touches. Is this “normal” for certain shapes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on January 26, 2022, 10:08:28 AM
I have a BBS Quasi that I just noticed bows up from nose to tail meaning that if you set it on a flat surface only the middle of the deck touches. Is this “normal” for certain shapes?

Their proto boards are tapered, assuming thats the one you have. 8.25 at the nose, 8.0 at the tail.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 26, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Nah that's not what I mean. If you set the board down on a table and look at it from the side, the middle touches the table, but it bows upward from there and neither of the bolt hole areas touches.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FrozenIndustries on January 26, 2022, 10:48:57 AM
It's called a rocker, and I know some old school shapes used to employ it. Don't know what the functionality of it is though. @Mbrimson88 probably does.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on January 26, 2022, 10:50:23 AM
Nah that's not what I mean. If you set the board down on a table and look at it from the side, the middle touches the table, but it bows upward from there and neither of the bolt hole areas touches.
i see what you mean. my Blast decks had that too. its kind of like a rocker. just never know if they supposed to be like that or if theyre just slightly warped.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 26, 2022, 11:19:30 AM
Weird, never heard of such a thing. I didn't really notice it while skating so it's prob chill.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 26, 2022, 03:28:59 PM
It's called a rocker, and I know some old school shapes used to employ it. Don't know what the functionality of it is though. @Mbrimson88 probably does.



Ha, just going through reading and then thought about those Consolidated boards that really had a significant rocker in them but I don't think that really took off.  Maybe there was too much rocker action in those boards.

The Real Low Pro was maybe the most well known version of the rocker type construction, of which I had quite a few (even one still set up too and that thing will just NOT break, even though it is so super old and flexy now).

There was even an old thread on it too, which I found while looking through a normal search online, not searching on here, but also a couple of other articles and info which is interesting to read as well.


Real Low Pro (from 2011)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=57637.0



https://www.weartested.com/real-skateboards-low-pro-ii-decks/


The Low Pro II technology is basically a center pressed production process which influences the shape of the deck. The deck is a centered rocker and thus, has a lower center of gravity which should increases control and pop.  Through the tighter concave the decks using this technology offer improved strength and lasting pop. In addition, Real used stiffer x-bands and an exclusive new additive free glue in order to increase the strength and lightness. In summary, Real promises to offer more board control and strength with their Low Pro II technology.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on January 26, 2022, 08:06:01 PM
Is Scram grip tape any good? What about Madness?


idk if either of those are any good but i love some them Scram grip graphics. sorry
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 27, 2022, 05:34:57 AM
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It's called a rocker, and I know some old school shapes used to employ it. Don't know what the functionality of it is though. @Mbrimson88 probably does.
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Ha, just going through reading and then thought about those Consolidated boards that really had a significant rocker in them but I don't think that really took off.  Maybe there was too much rocker action in those boards.

The Real Low Pro was maybe the most well known version of the rocker type construction, of which I had quite a few (even one still set up too and that thing will just NOT break, even though it is so super old and flexy now).

There was even an old thread on it too, which I found while looking through a normal search online, not searching on here, but also a couple of other articles and info which is interesting to read as well.


Real Low Pro (from 2011)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=57637.0



https://www.weartested.com/real-skateboards-low-pro-ii-decks/


The Low Pro II technology is basically a center pressed production process which influences the shape of the deck. The deck is a centered rocker and thus, has a lower center of gravity which should increases control and pop.  Through the tighter concave the decks using this technology offer improved strength and lasting pop. In addition, Real used stiffer x-bands and an exclusive new additive free glue in order to increase the strength and lightness. In summary, Real promises to offer more board control and strength with their Low Pro II technology.

If the Quasi Protos are made like that I may need to pick up a few. Skated a Low Pro 2 as a teen and it felt just right. It was the only board I ever had b/s pop shuvs on lock
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 27, 2022, 08:24:34 AM
"turn" is to broad a term. What are people really saying when they say a truck doesn't turn? At this point I've tried pretty much every truck in pretty much every width and they all (while yes feeling a bit different) do turn. Are people trying to do slalom or trying to land a trick and immediately take a 90 degree corner?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 27, 2022, 09:46:35 AM
"turn" is to broad a term. What are people really saying when they say a truck doesn't turn? At this point I've tried pretty much every truck in pretty much every width and they all (while yes feeling a bit different) do turn. Are people trying to do slalom or trying to land a trick and immediately take a 90 degree corner?

When I started riding ace last year I thought the same thing, they obviously turn but it's not a huge difference.
Only after switching to different trucks did I realize that I lost some kind of safety to more or less carve out of anything that gets in my way. Even though I'd consider thunders pretty responsive, it took me quite some time to get used to the different "turn" again.
I think it's an interesting question and there might be way more to it than the relatively small difference in turning radius. Curious about others opinions on this.

I'd even go as far as saying the question deserves its own thread
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 27, 2022, 10:02:28 AM
People confusing general turning with trick-related turning where the pressure you apply and how you roll into and out of a trick matters somewhat. For me I often land back tails really heavy on my heelside and certain combos wheelbite, but when doing backside 180s I like a bit of wiggle ability when I land to correct and get back to center if I under or over rotate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on January 27, 2022, 10:14:23 AM
I catch primo on a kickflip every session and my wrists always feel it when i try to catch my fall. Do those 187 killer pads / pro-tec wrist guards actually help? Fine with wearing one, but would rather save my money if it doesn't do anything

Something like this - https://www.amazon.com/187-Killer-Pads-Wrist-Guards/dp/B0142XAMDK/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lazyskater on January 27, 2022, 10:20:31 AM
I catch primo on a kickflip every session and my wrists always feel it when i try to catch my fall. Do those 187 killer pads / pro-tec wrist guards actually help? Fine with wearing one, but would rather save my money if it doesn't do anything

Something like this - https://www.amazon.com/187-Killer-Pads-Wrist-Guards/dp/B0142XAMDK/

I use a right when I skate now after I sprained my wrist. They are kinda cheap and breakthrough pretty quick, however a little shoe goo makes them last (had mine over a year). To answer your question, yes they definitely help.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 27, 2022, 10:32:27 AM
I catch primo on a kickflip every session and my wrists always feel it when i try to catch my fall. Do those 187 killer pads / pro-tec wrist guards actually help? Fine with wearing one, but would rather save my money if it doesn't do anything

Something like this - https://www.amazon.com/187-Killer-Pads-Wrist-Guards/dp/B0142XAMDK/

They absolutely help, no matter the company, they're all the same. Takes all the impact, at least on flat
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on January 27, 2022, 10:41:30 AM
Sweet, sold. Thank you guys. only do kfs on flat
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on January 27, 2022, 11:29:58 AM
What does “surfy” mean in regards to truck feel/turn? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 27, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
I catch primo on a kickflip every session and my wrists always feel it when i try to catch my fall. Do those 187 killer pads / pro-tec wrist guards actually help? Fine with wearing one, but would rather save my money if it doesn't do anything

Something like this - https://www.amazon.com/187-Killer-Pads-Wrist-Guards/dp/B0142XAMDK/
Haven't tried those ones but they are probably fine/ look decently solid. I had a bunch of bad wrist shit going on years ago and can say definatly do NOT buy any kind of special techo claiming wrist guard. They don't do shit. I don't know where you're at (I'm assuming USA) and I don't know what the deal is there but if you can see a physio and get them to make you a cast that you can take off and use as a wristguard is probably the best option but will be expensive. (And still has different problems like if you fall on your hand you will probably bend your fingers back hard because you stopped the hand and wrist bending)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on January 27, 2022, 12:25:48 PM
I catch primo on a kickflip every session and my wrists always feel it when i try to catch my fall. Do those 187 killer pads / pro-tec wrist guards actually help? Fine with wearing one, but would rather save my money if it doesn't do anything

Something like this - https://www.amazon.com/187-Killer-Pads-Wrist-Guards/dp/B0142XAMDK/
I got a pair of those and they do help but I hate wearing them so they only come out after I’ve already ganked a wrist.
A local barney is really into these ones https://www.oldguysriptoo.com/gorilla-palms-review/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on January 27, 2022, 12:43:21 PM
Thank you all for your responses, seriously appreciate it

@braksabbath - why do you hate wearing them, is it just uncomfortable?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on January 27, 2022, 12:55:14 PM
What does “surfy” mean in regards to truck feel/turn? 

Being able to carve, as if you were on a wave. Requires loose(r) trucks than what most ride. Surfy trucks allow you to turn at speed smoothly.

Indys are surfy (slow(er) wider arc), compared to say ACE (squirrly), Venture (swervy, with the right bushings), Thunders (twitchy), and Krux (shitty, I kid, I kid).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 27, 2022, 12:59:17 PM
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What does “surfy” mean in regards to truck feel/turn? 
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Being able to carve, as if you were on a wave. Requires loose(r) trucks than what most ride. Surfy trucks allow you to turn at speed smoothly.

Indys are surfy (slow(er) wider arc), compared to say ACE (squirrly), Venture (swervy, with the right bushings), Thunders (twitchy), and Krux (shitty, I kid, I kid).

Lurpivs are surfier than Indies.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on January 27, 2022, 01:17:44 PM
What happened to the orange hair kid on Primo???? I feel like he fell of the earth somehow. Am I tripping??
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on January 27, 2022, 01:19:15 PM
Thank you all for your responses, seriously appreciate it

@braksabbath - why do you hate wearing them, is it just uncomfortable?
They’re comfortable enough and I forget they’re there after a few minutes but there’s the irrational fear of my thumb sticking to the ground while the rest slides and you can’t grab the board for transition grabby things. I should just wear them more.

Plastic on your board = Hellride
Plastic on your body = Whack

Also I love these things. Fits under pants, very comfy, provides some warmth in winter. Got em after my knee cap went full speed into a rail two months ago and I still have a bone bruise.
https://g-form.com/knee-pads-mountain-bike-skateboard
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on January 27, 2022, 02:57:51 PM
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Thank you all for your responses, seriously appreciate it

@braksabbath - why do you hate wearing them, is it just uncomfortable?
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They’re comfortable enough and I forget they’re there after a few minutes but there’s the irrational fear of my thumb sticking to the ground while the rest slides and you can’t grab the board for transition grabby things. I should just wear them more.

Plastic on your board = Hellride
Plastic on your body = Whack

Also I love these things. Fits under pants, very comfy, provides some warmth in winter. Got em after my knee cap went full speed into a rail two months ago and I still have a bone bruise.
https://g-form.com/knee-pads-mountain-bike-skateboard

The shin guards like this are pretty great too, may grab a set of these ones.  My current ones are a little janky.  I don't mind shinner pain but spent too much on tattoos for a board to fuck em up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on January 27, 2022, 11:48:24 PM
Got a pair of 187 wrist guard from my local and wow, they really do work. Tested them today an landed primo just once this session and the wrist guard significantly reduced impact. Will start wearing one on my left hand (im reg) every time now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 28, 2022, 02:43:08 AM
What happened to the orange hair kid on Primo???? I feel like he fell of the earth somehow. Am I tripping??
Do you mean Giovanni vianna on primative? I think he hurt his knee shortly after going pro then covid happened. I don't follow him on any social stuff tho but I'm guessing it's what happened to most non Americans during lockdown and they had to go home
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on January 28, 2022, 10:42:27 AM
Dumb question, but what is right sort of bearing offset for making trucks skate wider VS narrower than they are? I understand putting washers on the inside vs outside but how does the position of the bearing seat play a part? Are there wheels in the 50-60mm range that feature notable bearing offset variation?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 28, 2022, 11:40:26 AM
Dumb question, but what is right sort of bearing offset for making trucks skate wider VS narrower than they are? I understand putting washers on the inside vs outside but how does the position of the bearing seat play a part? Are there wheels in the 50-60mm range that feature notable bearing offset variation?
Freestyle wheels are offset and usually about 55mm. I think Powell g bones are offset. Mini cubics definatly are.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 28, 2022, 03:27:20 PM
Dumb question, but what is right sort of bearing offset for making trucks skate wider VS narrower than they are? I understand putting washers on the inside vs outside but how does the position of the bearing seat play a part? Are there wheels in the 50-60mm range that feature notable bearing offset variation?

There are a few wheels that do have specific offsets, or even wider wheels in general, vs more narrow wheels in general.

As said the Mini Combo wheels have a little, Spitfire Lock Ins (or Flat outs) have a more significant offset, or looking at bigger wheels, Combo elite 60 mm have a huge width, as do Slimeballs.

I guess too it depends on how much you want, and if you want wider truck / wheel profiles or more narrow.

Some boards I had setup needed to go down a size in Indy trucks to accommodate the Slimeballs, otherwise they stuck out way too much.

I have also run Bones Mini Cubics (the widest wheel on the market maybe?) on Indy 139s and still fit well on a 10" board, but that is extreme and not really something for a normal setup.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 28, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
is there any technique to working in bushings? I normally just crank them down the day i get the new trucks and just go from there but they usually split a bit as a result (which has never bothered me). are you meant to start out loose and slowly tighten them like a 1/4 turn each time you skate to prevent that? Just trying to see if I Can save them a bit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 28, 2022, 05:53:44 PM
Is Scram grip tape any good? What about Madness?
Pretty sure it’s Jessup. No idea what Madness uses.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 28, 2022, 08:26:49 PM
is there any technique to working in bushings? I normally just crank them down the day i get the new trucks and just go from there but they usually split a bit as a result (which has never bothered me). are you meant to start out loose and slowly tighten them like a 1/4 turn each time you skate to prevent that? Just trying to see if I Can save them a bit
I always went with the don't tighten new trucks thing, wear them in and tighten a bit at a time. If you know you want tighter trucks maybe try some harder bushings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 28, 2022, 08:36:59 PM
What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on January 28, 2022, 09:04:59 PM
What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: YBOS on January 28, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
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What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
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Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.

Ive always thought it would be like a mini-lapper, but pressure cracks also makes sense
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: babywantsbluevelvet on January 28, 2022, 10:02:45 PM
Relatedly, do pressure cracks around the baseplate affect anything to a noticeable degree? I notice some boards get them and others don’t, but haven’t personally noticed any difference under my feet. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: nevrwasben on January 28, 2022, 10:32:31 PM
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What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
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Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.
I’m old & only ever saw them used on the back truck with the flush side toward the tailslide area, so not fucking with any slides…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flintstagram on January 28, 2022, 11:15:39 PM
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What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
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Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.
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I’m old & only ever saw them used on the back truck with the flush side toward the tailslide area, so not fucking with any slides…

Yeah, pretty sure that was some back truck only shit, and you used a regular riser up front. I always assumed they were to help prevent hanging up on disasters and such, but it was probably just all marketing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 28, 2022, 11:25:18 PM
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What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
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Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.
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I’m old & only ever saw them used on the back truck with the flush side toward the tailslide area, so not fucking with any slides…
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Yeah, pretty sure that was some back truck only shit, and you used a regular riser up front. I always assumed they were to help prevent hanging up on disasters and such, but it was probably just all marketing.
If it's just for the back truck weird they did the arrow with "nose". Would of been as easy to do tail. I guess everyone knew what to do with them at the time tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on January 28, 2022, 11:57:34 PM
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What was the idea behind Cellblock 3 riser pads? Do they have any advantage over modern riser pads?

(https://i.imgur.com/q2DZmTv.jpg)
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Fucking up nose and tail slides? I'm guessing the design concept is to reduce pressure cracks but hardware doesn't need to be that tight anyway.
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I’m old & only ever saw them used on the back truck with the flush side toward the tailslide area, so not fucking with any slides…
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Yeah, pretty sure that was some back truck only shit, and you used a regular riser up front. I always assumed they were to help prevent hanging up on disasters and such, but it was probably just all marketing.
Ah I’d never seen these used before, back truck only makes a lot more sense for an old school board, I was picturing those facing both outwards on a popsicle  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on January 29, 2022, 12:56:32 AM
Boards used to break right in front of the back truck then, due to the tapered shapes.
Cellblocks were designed to prevent that.
(http://calstreets.com/site/images/skateboard_collections/images/santacruzwarranty-cards80s2copy.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 29, 2022, 06:32:59 AM
I’m on my fourth set of wrist guards (used pro tech and triple 8 in the past ) over the last two years, and I have the 187s now. Love them. Comfy, they fit over my gloves and under the sleeves of a hoody when it’s cold, and since I like to catch myself on my wrists when I eat crap, they work.
I usually keep a set till the stitching goes to shit and/or they smell too bad.
Old man skater essentials.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on January 29, 2022, 06:59:32 AM
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What does “surfy” mean in regards to truck feel/turn? 
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Being able to carve, as if you were on a wave. Requires loose(r) trucks than what most ride. Surfy trucks allow you to turn at speed smoothly.

Indys are surfy (slow(er) wider arc), compared to say ACE (squirrly), Venture (swervy, with the right bushings), Thunders (twitchy), and Krux (shitty, I kid, I kid).


Would you say it has more to do with turn than lean?   How about return to center?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 07:36:14 PM
Relatedly, do pressure cracks around the baseplate affect anything to a noticeable degree? I notice some boards get them and others don’t, but haven’t personally noticed any difference under my feet.


I had always gone with the assumption that pressure cracks of any kind running lengthways along the board were almost of no issue at all, but any cracks running across the board (or zig zagging through) were a total "uh ohhh" and that board was then swapped out, given away or if not causing issues, used as a cruiser with no normal action.

There are still some of my old boards being used by others that I thought were done, but they all had definite cracks through the middle or across the trucks, not pressure cracks lengthways.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 29, 2022, 08:04:36 PM
Boards used to break right in front of the back truck then, due to the tapered shapes.
Cellblocks were designed to prevent that.
(http://calstreets.com/site/images/skateboard_collections/images/santacruzwarranty-cards80s2copy.jpg)

Interesting, I assume they worked since people used them but went away as vert died off and woodshops got better. I kinda want to get a NOS set and see what's up  :o
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 08:47:26 PM
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Boards used to break right in front of the back truck then, due to the tapered shapes.
Cellblocks were designed to prevent that.
(http://calstreets.com/site/images/skateboard_collections/images/santacruzwarranty-cards80s2copy.jpg)
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Interesting, I assume they worked since people used them but went away as vert died off and woodshops got better. I kinda want to get a NOS set and see what's up  :o


I think it was also the fact that those fish shaped decks were suddenly being used on jump ramps a whole lot more, which meant people were going through them so much more quickly, heavy landings on the tail, breaking through the most narrow part of the back bolts from the big drops after launching, but then as boards went to a more street style, smaller wheels (compared to the usual 60mm wheels) and risers were being discarded so there wasn't quite the need for them.

The extra height on the board, being the half inch riser height of most of them was what ultimately killed off the interest in products like that, although I do recall seeing a quarter inch version some time, along with metal versions and other things from that same era.

Either way, the jump ramp craze caused a lot of headaches for people, but then shops sold a lot more boards as a result, so board sales went through the roof for the "street pros" as the "vert pros" board sales became almost non existent.


As for getting your hands on any, there are still some around, but many collectors have hiked the price of that sort of stuff right up and unless you can find some (or even just one for the back truck) from a clearance lot, it is going to cost you a fair bit to get hold of one.

They are all the old school truck pattern as well, but that would still be easy enough to drill out a deck and use the six hole baseplate from the bigger standard indy truck sizes.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 29, 2022, 11:21:02 PM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 30, 2022, 01:21:23 AM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.
For whatever reason I haven't had to do it in years but if I ever chipped a board I'd always keep the chip then superglue/clamp it back on when I got home.
My first pro board was that blue BW habitat Brian wenning and it delammed like wet Weetbix. Used pretty much a tube of glue on it after every skate. Turns out that was just something that happened with habitat and alien boards a lot in the early 00s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 30, 2022, 02:57:33 AM
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Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.
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For whatever reason I haven't had to do it in years but if I ever chipped a board I'd always keep the chip then superglue/clamp it back on when I got home.
My first pro board was that blue BW habitat Brian wenning and it delammed like wet Weetbix. Used pretty much a tube of glue on it after every skate. Turns out that was just something that happened with habitat and alien boards a lot in the early 00s


I always have those little super glue tubes ready if needed, even a good pair of grips in case a chip happens, which I can glue and then clamp for a minute and all good for any board in the place.

Some people I know definitely went to great lengths to keep their board nice and well looked after, even using clear coat on the repairs afterwards, or after reshaping things like the kicks if they had worn down a little too much or wanted to reshape it for whatever reason.

I guess for most people who have a board for a month or less, they don't really do much besides skate it to death, but for others, self included, who usually have a board for a whole lot longer than that, it pays to look after it and make sure it doesn't suffer any issues before you are done with it.


* The left over grip is also a good one - always keep some on hand just in case and it definitely helps.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie varial flip on January 30, 2022, 07:11:04 AM
Here's a real dumb question I never figured out: how do people like Berle and Greco (during their appropriate eras) wear dickies so fitted? I can't wear dickies without either looking like Stranger in Skypager or crushing my balls to jelly. Do dudes with those really well-fitted dickies just accept the ball crunch like I do with my evil "i have to go to work now" pants? Do they have longer legs so they don't look as much like a child skating (like I do)? I feel like I will never figure this out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 30, 2022, 07:28:18 AM
Here's a real dumb question I never figured out: how do people like Berle and Greco (during their appropriate eras) wear dickies so fitted? I can't wear dickies without either looking like Stranger in Skypager or crushing my balls to jelly. Do dudes with those really well-fitted dickies just accept the ball crunch like I do with my evil "i have to go to work now" pants? Do they have longer legs so they don't look as much like a child skating (like I do)? I feel like I will never figure this out
I have the same crushed balls problem but I'm pretty tall. I always assumed somehow I have a longer crotch/ass area than short people and Dickies don't take that into account when they make bigger sizes. I've even tried on pairs way too big that are still pressed right into my taint.
I feel like you need to just have the right dimensions from like taint to dick base to where the button is/ top of legs to hip length.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie varial flip on January 30, 2022, 08:01:48 AM
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Here's a real dumb question I never figured out: how do people like Berle and Greco (during their appropriate eras) wear dickies so fitted? I can't wear dickies without either looking like Stranger in Skypager or crushing my balls to jelly. Do dudes with those really well-fitted dickies just accept the ball crunch like I do with my evil "i have to go to work now" pants? Do they have longer legs so they don't look as much like a child skating (like I do)? I feel like I will never figure this out
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I have the same crushed balls problem but I'm pretty tall. I always assumed somehow I have a longer crotch/ass area than short people and Dickies don't take that into account when they make bigger sizes. I've even tried on pairs way too big that are still pressed right into my taint.
I feel like you need to just have the right dimensions from like taint to dick base to where the button is/ top of legs to hip length.

I'm crazy average in both height and weight and I still even get them dragging on the ground if I size up... I looked at some of the slim cut once and I don't honestly know how someone could skate in them with that crotch, and I typically wear slimmer clothes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 30, 2022, 08:34:30 AM
Perhaps the taint measurement is as important as the leg opening…..I equate it to the fingers of flat measurment…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MusclesMarinara on January 30, 2022, 08:49:28 AM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.

Rewind 15 years ago my dad used to do this to my decks all the time. I couldn't believe it worked so well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theoriginalgoon on January 30, 2022, 08:55:22 AM
Perhaps the taint measurement is as important as the leg opening…..I equate it to the fingers of flat measurment…

yeah it defiitely is, its called the front rise for people wondering. the larger the front rise the less ball crushing the pants.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 30, 2022, 09:12:30 AM
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Perhaps the taint measurement is as important as the leg opening…..I equate it to the fingers of flat measurment…
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yeah it defiitely is, its called the front rise for people wondering. the larger the front rise the less ball crushing the pants.
Yes but it's still not perfect. You need to look at all the measurements together. You can end up with some tube crotch no hip movement pants (see thynan Costa parts) where the inability to move your legs freely sideways means your thighs are either restricted or going to hulk out the sides or crotch of the pants.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 30, 2022, 11:11:53 AM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.

I just did the other day. Had some bad dents in my board that were bothering me since the board was still so new, so I bought wood filler and filled it up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on January 30, 2022, 11:46:03 AM
Has anyone redrilled the rear trucks for shorter wheelbase? I’ve done the front on two boards but hate how much extra flat it adds to my front foot. On transition I need my shoe locked in against the nose, seems less consequential on the tail
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Post by: Easy Slider on January 30, 2022, 11:50:03 AM
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Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.
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I just did the other day. Had some bad dents in my board that were bothering me since the board was still so new, so I bought wood filler and filled it up.

Wood filler now that‘s an idea.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on January 30, 2022, 03:53:43 PM
Has anyone redrilled the rear trucks for shorter wheelbase? I’ve done the front on two boards but hate how much extra flat it adds to my front foot. On transition I need my shoe locked in against the nose, seems less consequential on the tail

Over the years, more so on random or "test boards" that were pretty thrashed, I have had a whole lot of mixed results from redrilling boards, both shortening and lengthening the wheelbase.

Really steep boards with longer wheelbases benefit well from being drilled in on the tail (shortening it by 3/8" using the six hole baseplate method) but can definitely affect the point at which boards lift for manuals - often making them almost too quick to lift, if that makes sense.

The main reason I have drilled in a couple of boards on the back truck that made them really good (normal feeling) is they just felt like the rear truck position was too far back, so there were not enough fingers of flat / a very heavy manual point.

Sometimes drilling the back truck in makes the manual / lift point way too light, so the best way to test this first is use the six hole baseplate and just put the truck on through the far back two bolts through the "spare" deck bolt holes in the six hole baseplate (entire truck setup with just two bolts) and just stand on the board to feel the manual point.  If it is comfortable, then it should work well, but if it is too light, then it might not be so good to drill it in.


Many people shorten the wheelbase on the nose (and you can use the same method as above to get a feel for it first), but I know quite a few people drill out some boards too, as they prefer 15+ wheelbases, so often the nose becomes almost too heavy / hard to nose manual on, but doesn't really affect the lift back in on deckers on ramps, oddly enough.

That's just a quick take on redrilling, but often if the board is not working as it is, redrilling it might be the best way to make it work better for you - better than getting rid of a perfectly good board anyway.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 30, 2022, 04:37:39 PM
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Here's a real dumb question I never figured out: how do people like Berle and Greco (during their appropriate eras) wear dickies so fitted? I can't wear dickies without either looking like Stranger in Skypager or crushing my balls to jelly. Do dudes with those really well-fitted dickies just accept the ball crunch like I do with my evil "i have to go to work now" pants? Do they have longer legs so they don't look as much like a child skating (like I do)? I feel like I will never figure this out
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I have the same crushed balls problem but I'm pretty tall. I always assumed somehow I have a longer crotch/ass area than short people and Dickies don't take that into account when they make bigger sizes. I've even tried on pairs way too big that are still pressed right into my taint.
I feel like you need to just have the right dimensions from like taint to dick base to where the button is/ top of legs to hip length.
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I'm crazy average in both height and weight and I still even get them dragging on the ground if I size up... I looked at some of the slim cut once and I don't honestly know how someone could skate in them with that crotch, and I typically wear slimmer clothes

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Perhaps the taint measurement is as important as the leg opening…..I equate it to the fingers of flat measurment…
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yeah it defiitely is, its called the front rise for people wondering. the larger the front rise the less ball crushing the pants.
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Yes but it's still not perfect. You need to look at all the measurements together. You can end up with some tube crotch no hip movement pants (see thynan Costa parts) where the inability to move your legs freely sideways means your thighs are either restricted or going to hulk out the sides or crotch of the pants.


More than anything, body shape is the main factor whether or not those pants (or the different styles, mainly 872, 873 and 874) will fit well or not.

I first got a pair of 874 a long time ago and thought they were the weirdest fit I have ever had.  Others had said go up a size, so when I did get a size up and put a belt in them, it was a whole different experience and I haven't looked back, maybe 20 years in 874s now.  I still am not a fan of brand new pants, but the well worn in pants are now so soft and comfotable to skate in, as well as live in, sleep in, etc - yes sometimes I have gone days without changing for whatever reason.

The others like the 872 are so totally weird and I could or would never be able to wear them, but some others I skate with swear by them and say they are the best pants in the fit department for them.

Some also prefer the 873 pants too, so just different body shapes and types, as well as getting whatever size that works and getting used to how the pants wear.

I know others who have had their 874s taken in more so in the lower leg, so they actually look more like the slim fit pants but still had the regular rise and seat.


As an example, I wear my 874s pretty high, belt tight on the normal x 32 length which fit best overall, but I do have some x 30 length and they are too short in the body / crotch (cut them off as shorts so not so bad), just like x 34 length are a bit long overall, but have a lot more room in the crotch area too (taken up to be 32 length).


How you wear them will change the feel and fit as well, so nowdays I feel weird and the 874 pants feel uncomfortable if I am not wearing a belt and they sit lower than I am used to, but the 872 and 873 are lower rise pants so they will often fit better if they are not pulled up so high too.

Some people trip out on this when I explain it to them, but when they try on the three different pairs they realise pretty quickly how different they fit too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on January 30, 2022, 11:43:12 PM
Thanks for the offset answers, Im venturing out of the formula four space and I think i want a more period-appropriate fishtail in my quiver. I also have huge feet but skate as well on 139s as I do on 55s. Maybe slower. Anyway I have the brain disease wear I want to have 3 or 4 distinct set ups but I want them to all skate sorta similar  8) :(


On Dickies: The limited rise is what introduced me to Red Kaps and also just back into denim. I put on some weight after college and suddenly couldn't front 180 in my TTS 874s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 31, 2022, 07:43:52 AM
is there any trick on "working in" bushings ? I normally just crank it down to the tightness I want the first day I get the new trucks nad just kinda go from there. I normally split the bushings though. does it make any difference if you slowly tighten it a little bit more each session? I am planning on keeping them a bit looser this time as well
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 31, 2022, 07:54:35 AM
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Thank you all for your responses, seriously appreciate it

@braksabbath - why do you hate wearing them, is it just uncomfortable?
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They’re comfortable enough and I forget they’re there after a few minutes but there’s the irrational fear of my thumb sticking to the ground while the rest slides and you can’t grab the board for transition grabby things. I should just wear them more.

Plastic on your board = Hellride
Plastic on your body = Whack

Also I love these things. Fits under pants, very comfy, provides some warmth in winter. Got em after my knee cap went full speed into a rail two months ago and I still have a bone bruise.
https://g-form.com/knee-pads-mountain-bike-skateboard

I frequently wonder why this stuff isn't more popular with skaters. Even the BMXers at my local park at wearing G-Form now. The fact that it disappears under your clothes should mean skaters love it.

Ultimately I know why - because skaters are sticks in the mud. But I still find it surprising that they haven't sponsored any skaters.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 31, 2022, 07:58:22 AM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.

I do this often. Recently, I sent a new deck into the railing at the skatepark. After the session, I filled the split with wood glue and left it clamped upright (trucks and all) in my vise for a day. The spot held for the rest of the life of the deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 31, 2022, 08:02:02 AM
Here's a real dumb question I never figured out: how do people like Berle and Greco (during their appropriate eras) wear dickies so fitted? I can't wear dickies without either looking like Stranger in Skypager or crushing my balls to jelly. Do dudes with those really well-fitted dickies just accept the ball crunch like I do with my evil "i have to go to work now" pants? Do they have longer legs so they don't look as much like a child skating (like I do)? I feel like I will never figure this out

Both of these skaters seem to me like men who have a personal relationship with a tailor.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 31, 2022, 09:16:29 AM
is there any trick on "working in" bushings ? I normally just crank it down to the tightness I want the first day I get the new trucks nad just kinda go from there. I normally split the bushings though. does it make any difference if you slowly tighten it a little bit more each session? I am planning on keeping them a bit looser this time as well

From what I've been told is that you're not supposed to touch them at all. Just run the factory tightness setting for 1-2 weeks and allow the bushings to firm up before making any adjustments (loosening or tightening). This is what I normally do before making any changes such as removing a washer, changing pivot cups/bushings, etc. This works for me and I think its the best method if you prefer skating stock bushings., especially on Aces or Thunders
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 31, 2022, 11:02:48 AM
I don’t think it matters. If you adjust them and they firm up you’ll naturally loosen them and Vice versa. Just ride your board and tweak to keep them consistent and eventually they will settle. I will say that my Indy bushings need almost no break in they’re solid after an hour and Thunders never “firm up” for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on January 31, 2022, 09:38:28 PM
How would you measure the radius of an existing ramp to copy it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2022, 05:55:08 AM
How would you measure the radius of an existing ramp to copy it?


It depends how big it is, but for now let's say it is NOT over head height, which makes everything a whole lot easier.


Most ramps will have a set radius between 6 to 9 feet depending on how big they are, eg my small ramp is quite tight at about 5 ft radius, cut off at 2 ft, but the main half pipe everyone loves to skate is 8 ft radius cut off about 6 feet. in height.


Smaller ramps I have used something like a cardboard box from a fridge to hold beside to trace the side of the transition, but a sheet of ply would also be good to take a radius line on.

Other ramps I have used a measuring tape and marked out a scale drawing on paper, taking measurements at 10 or 20 cm intervals along the base and then tracing out the transition, to then work out the radius.


The most common way to get a good transition is have a fixed point, run a string line or solid piece of something from that point and mark out on the pieces of wood which you then cut and use as a template for all other transitions.


Sorry if you already knew all that.


If it is some ramp or bowl that you cannot easily measure the side radius, measure the depth / height of the thing from flat to coping, then from the eye level of coping, measure from the start of the flat to the coping, which should give you a rough guide and try mapping that out with rough radius lengths.

I have made quite a few ramps over the years, but a lot were a little too tight and a couple too mellow, so getting the transition exactly right is key to having something that works.


(https://i.ibb.co/160647s/Ramp-radius.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kw5w8bN)imagehost (https://imgbb.com/)



https://www.instagram.com/p/BbavEeSFHd5/



 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on February 01, 2022, 07:57:51 AM
As usual, Mbrimson88's post is excellent.  Don't forget to allow for ply layers if you're trying to match the existing ramp exactly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on February 01, 2022, 03:05:00 PM
Do you ollie and nollie with your foot deep in the pocket of the tail/nose (see Carlos Ribero) or have your foot on the very edge of the tail/nose
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 01, 2022, 03:09:13 PM
Do you ollie and nollie with your foot deep in the pocket of the tail/nose (see Carlos Ribero) or have your foot on the very edge of the tail/nose

I can ollie from more or less anywhere. If I’m popping over something high, my foot is going to be further back. I’m not nearly as talented at nollies so my foot is usually towards the center of the board if I want to get up more than a 7”.
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Post by: billy english on February 01, 2022, 03:10:04 PM
what video did kenny hughes do that huge 180?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on February 01, 2022, 03:34:45 PM
Do you also „repair“ decks? I often get split laminates on either side of the kicks from landing primo and if I leave it unattended those become chips, so I started glueing them and put them in clamps overnight, then sand them with leftover griptape. This works quite well and the glued bits seem to be stronger than before.
https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8257-KwikWood-Stick-1/dp/B002NJDAJY

Kwikwood. Can get it at most stores including Home Depot, Walmart, Target, etc. Not the prettiest but ive had much better luck filling in a chip with this versus trying to glue the piece back on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on February 01, 2022, 03:41:52 PM
Do you ollie and nollie with your foot deep in the pocket of the tail/nose (see Carlos Ribero) or have your foot on the very edge of the tail/nose
Normal and fakie on the tip of the tail, switch and nollie in the pocket of the nose. Always.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2022, 04:13:11 PM
As usual, Mbrimson88's post is excellent.  Don't forget to allow for ply layers if you're trying to match the existing ramp exactly.


Yeah, sometimes I read back over it and think, I might have made that a bit more confusing than it should be.


Also good point on the ply layers.  Most of mine are minimum of 3 layers of 7 mm ply (21+ mm thickness) but I know some bigger / more mellow ramps use three layers of even thicker stuff, so it can end up with almost 30mm surface thickness.

Thin surface layers flex more easily to shape to the transition but the last thing you want is to have someone go through it, but that is another thing entirely.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on February 01, 2022, 05:03:07 PM
How would you measure the radius of an existing ramp to copy it?

If you cant trace it from the end of the ramp or hip in a bowl, I would make a template much like you would for a kitchen counter.
1/4" Luan ply cut to 4"X16" long. Line them up on the ramp on their 1/4" sides then screw and glue the ends together and you will have something that resembles a qp. Make a scribing tool from scrap, a 3" long piece with a hole for your pencil or marker at the 2" mark. Then scribe the shape with your scribing tool keeping one end pressed onto the transition while marking the outline with your marker. Now you have the true shape of the transition to cut out. Cut close to the line and hand sand to the line for the perfect shape. This is the one way to guarantee that you have the exact shape.

If I did this with a helper who has never done this type of work it would probably take us about 20 minutes to do

If it was me I would just guess it " looks like 6 foot transition to me" I've been happy with the guessing technique many times

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 01, 2022, 05:20:07 PM
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How would you measure the radius of an existing ramp to copy it?
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It depends how big it is, but for now let's say it is NOT over head height, which makes everything a whole lot easier.


Most ramps will have a set radius between 6 to 9 feet depending on how big they are, eg my small ramp is quite tight at about 5 ft radius, cut off at 2 ft, but the main half pipe everyone loves to skate is 8 ft radius cut off about 6 feet. in height.


Smaller ramps I have used something like a cardboard box from a fridge to hold beside to trace the side of the transition, but a sheet of ply would also be good to take a radius line on.

Other ramps I have used a measuring tape and marked out a scale drawing on paper, taking measurements at 10 or 20 cm intervals along the base and then tracing out the transition, to then work out the radius.


The most common way to get a good transition is have a fixed point, run a string line or solid piece of something from that point and mark out on the pieces of wood which you then cut and use as a template for all other transitions.


Sorry if you already knew all that.


If it is some ramp or bowl that you cannot easily measure the side radius, measure the depth / height of the thing from flat to coping, then from the eye level of coping, measure from the start of the flat to the coping, which should give you a rough guide and try mapping that out with rough radius lengths.

I have made quite a few ramps over the years, but a lot were a little too tight and a couple too mellow, so getting the transition exactly right is key to having something that works.


(https://i.ibb.co/160647s/Ramp-radius.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kw5w8bN)imagehost (https://imgbb.com/)



https://www.instagram.com/p/BbavEeSFHd5/

I’ve done the plywood method for mine. Wanted the steep 1/4 from our local and the barrier from our other.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7LfJm2Zm/C726935-A-D3-E4-40-C8-AE1-C-FE8-BF20-E0-FAE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtH77gn3)

@Mbrimson88 that little one a 2’er? Looks like my old shop 1/4 before I recut it to a 4’ radius.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on February 01, 2022, 07:31:58 PM
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As usual, Mbrimson88's post is excellent.  Don't forget to allow for ply layers if you're trying to match the existing ramp exactly.
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Yeah, sometimes I read back over it and think, I might have made that a bit more confusing than it should be.


Also good point on the ply layers.  Most of mine are minimum of 3 layers of 7 mm ply (21+ mm thickness) but I know some bigger / more mellow ramps use three layers of even thicker stuff, so it can end up with almost 30mm surface thickness.

Thin surface layers flex more easily to shape to the transition but the last thing you want is to have someone go through it, but that is another thing entirely.
plz gnar @Mbrinson88 for me

(https://i.ibb.co/9pB4kFw/542-EC5-EC-D091-40-B1-A3-B8-6308-B5-B9-DAF9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9pB4kFw)
Here’s my shiddy micro ramp. 13” tall x 36 chambers wide x 42.0” radius transition, surface is 2 layers of 1/4” plywood, 1” PVC coping should last about 69 tail slaps, made from scraps and the shottiest lumber at the reclaimed building material center. 38.88 lbs and goes up and down stairs easily one handed. Hyped
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on February 01, 2022, 07:43:45 PM
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As usual, Mbrimson88's post is excellent.  Don't forget to allow for ply layers if you're trying to match the existing ramp exactly.
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Yeah, sometimes I read back over it and think, I might have made that a bit more confusing than it should be.


Also good point on the ply layers.  Most of mine are minimum of 3 layers of 7 mm ply (21+ mm thickness) but I know some bigger / more mellow ramps use three layers of even thicker stuff, so it can end up with almost 30mm surface thickness.

Thin surface layers flex more easily to shape to the transition but the last thing you want is to have someone go through it, but that is another thing entirely.
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plz gnar @Mbrinson88 for me

(https://i.ibb.co/9pB4kFw/542-EC5-EC-D091-40-B1-A3-B8-6308-B5-B9-DAF9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9pB4kFw)
Here’s my shiddy micro ramp. 13” tall x 36 chambers wide x 42.0” radius transition, surface is 2 layers of 1/4” plywood, 1” PVC coping should last about 69 tail slaps, made from scraps and the shottiest lumber at the reclaimed building material center. 38.88 lbs and goes up and down stairs easily one handed. Hyped

very sick, i had forgotten about hitting a reclaimed material place for stuff so thanks for that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 01, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
late, but slappys help break in bushings for me
hasnt failed me yet
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kelbywest on February 02, 2022, 05:20:43 AM
Anyone know of any US stockists for Jenny Skateboard? I dig some of their shit but I've only found Canada websites selling their gear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on February 03, 2022, 02:10:37 PM
Anyone know of any US stockists for Jenny Skateboard? I dig some of their shit but I've only found Canada websites selling their gear.

Blue Tile ships to 'merica
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on February 03, 2022, 02:18:35 PM
pros and cons of square tails, always wondered beyond "more foot space" and the "contact points are different" or something like that?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: user18081971 on February 03, 2022, 04:11:00 PM
Cons: heavier, maybe less power in the pop since it’s dispersed over a larger surface area?
Pros: more consistent pop maybe? Probably more leverage for flips since more material hangs over the trucks. For certain weird tricks like a tail block or rocket air, I would guess would be a lot easier. Impossibles feel easier personally.
These are probably extremely marginal, I’ve only skated one square shape deck, skated better than normal on it but I prefer the look of something super tapered.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 03, 2022, 07:34:37 PM

@Mbrimson88 that little one a 2’er? Looks like my old shop 1/4 before I recut it to a 4’ radius.


Yes it is about that now.

It started out as a direct copy of an amazing little ramp that was built for a special show, which was taller and way steeper (even more so than the cardboard cutout I had as a template behind the ply piece, but for the space I had it in, I realised I needed it a bit lower, then when I moved I recut the transition to be a little more mellow too.

Funny how more than ten years ago I was skating much steeper things and wanted a challenge, but now I wanted a more mellow cruisy type of half pipe, which works so well in the equivalent of a two car garage space - 6 x 6 m square.

Anything I made has to at least be steep enough that I can do rock to smith combos, otherwise I am not really that keen, eg some beginner ramps are almost banks with coping on them, which are fun for a minute, but not long term for me.

I made additional taller parts to go on either side when I moved too, so it is built to squeeze nicely into that area, more so than anything else.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie varial flip on February 03, 2022, 08:22:29 PM
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@Mbrimson88 that little one a 2’er? Looks like my old shop 1/4 before I recut it to a 4’ radius.
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Yes it is about that now.

It started out as a direct copy of an amazing little ramp that was built for a special show, which was taller and way steeper (even more so than the cardboard cutout I had as a template behind the ply piece, but for the space I had it in, I realised I needed it a bit lower, then when I moved I recut the transition to be a little more mellow too.

Funny how more than ten years ago I was skating much steeper things and wanted a challenge, but now I wanted a more mellow cruisy type of half pipe, which works so well in the equivalent of a two car garage space - 6 x 6 m square.

Anything I made has to at least be steep enough that I can do rock to smith combos, otherwise I am not really that keen, eg some beginner ramps are almost banks with coping on them, which are fun for a minute, but not long term for me.

I made additional taller parts to go on either side when I moved too, so it is built to squeeze nicely into that area, more so than anything else.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/

That looks like so much fucking fun
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2022, 03:34:07 AM
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That looks like so much fucking fun


Yes it really is such a fun ramp - the culmination of so much work and effort getting it just right, but ironic how many tricks I have lost in recent years too.  That said I still get out and skate it when I am feeling up to it and always grateful I have it there.

I think the only thing I do wish is that I had more time and space way back when I would have been able to skate it a lot more, but as per these things in life, who knows what might have happened back then.


Make the most of what you have got while you still have got it.  :)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheLowerBack on February 04, 2022, 02:35:05 PM
Will Tensor bushings fit Thunder’s?
Not the size, but the interlocking part through the kingpin hole on the hanger.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 04, 2022, 04:19:59 PM
will smaller wheels be more likely to have bearings blow out?
my friend has reached the bearing condom stage on his wheels and he has it happen all the time, while its never happened to me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 04, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
will smaller wheels be more likely to have bearings blow out?
my friend has reached the bearing condom stage on his wheels and he has it happen all the time, while its never happened to me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2022, 04:25:51 PM
Will Tensor bushings fit Thunder’s?
Not the size, but the interlocking part through the kingpin hole on the hanger.


Unless something has changed, I would say no.

Most other trucks don't have a large enough gap through the middle of the yoke area to fit interlocking bushings, from when I saw them and tried them in other boards.

Others might have a different story though, but those Tensor trucks really did have a much wider hole than everything else.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2022, 05:39:15 PM
will smaller wheels be more likely to have bearings blow out?
my friend has reached the bearing condom stage on his wheels and he has it happen all the time, while its never happened to me


I would say that there is no correlation between small wheels and blowing bearings.

There might be something in the use of the skateboard, or how much things are looked after, more so than anything else, eg someone who goes super hard, doesn't clean or maintain anything, rides wheels to death might also ride bearings to death too.

You normally don't need to clean bearings unless they get wet or seize up, but keeping them well lubed will mean they work how they were intended.  Running them loud, raw, no lube, no shields or whatever might be cool, but bearings are much more likely to blow out.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 04, 2022, 07:37:52 PM
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@Mbrimson88 that little one a 2’er? Looks like my old shop 1/4 before I recut it to a 4’ radius.
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Yes it is about that now.

It started out as a direct copy of an amazing little ramp that was built for a special show, which was taller and way steeper (even more so than the cardboard cutout I had as a template behind the ply piece, but for the space I had it in, I realised I needed it a bit lower, then when I moved I recut the transition to be a little more mellow too.

Funny how more than ten years ago I was skating much steeper things and wanted a challenge, but now I wanted a more mellow cruisy type of half pipe, which works so well in the equivalent of a two car garage space - 6 x 6 m square.

Anything I made has to at least be steep enough that I can do rock to smith combos, otherwise I am not really that keen, eg some beginner ramps are almost banks with coping on them, which are fun for a minute, but not long term for me.

I made additional taller parts to go on either side when I moved too, so it is built to squeeze nicely into that area, more so than anything else.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/
Damn that’s nice!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on February 04, 2022, 08:06:01 PM
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Will Tensor bushings fit Thunder’s?
Not the size, but the interlocking part through the kingpin hole on the hanger.
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Unless something has changed, I would say no.

Most other trucks don't have a large enough gap through the middle of the yoke area to fit interlocking bushings, from when I saw them and tried them in other boards.

Others might have a different story though, but those Tensor trucks really did have a much wider hole than everything else.

I got them to fit. It was with the Tensor ATG bushings, I can't speak for the rest of the Tensor lineup. But the Thunder's yoke measures 1mm less than that of a Tensor ATG. So you're left with a hanger that slops around between the two bushings. You could throw in a thin washer or a 6006 bearing shield between the yoke and bushing. Might be more trouble than it's worth though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 05, 2022, 06:24:54 PM
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Will Tensor bushings fit Thunder’s?
Not the size, but the interlocking part through the kingpin hole on the hanger.
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Unless something has changed, I would say no.

Most other trucks don't have a large enough gap through the middle of the yoke area to fit interlocking bushings, from when I saw them and tried them in other boards.

Others might have a different story though, but those Tensor trucks really did have a much wider hole than everything else.
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I got them to fit. It was with the Tensor ATG bushings, I can't speak for the rest of the Tensor lineup. But the Thunder's yoke measures 1mm less than that of a Tensor ATG. So you're left with a hanger that slops around between the two bushings. You could throw in a thin washer or a 6006 bearing shield between the yoke and bushing. Might be more trouble than it's worth though.


That's good info.


I remember someone wanting to keep their old bushings to use in their new trucks and they couldn't get the nut on, but I wasn't really paying attention to their setup after I had gripped the board and put things together for the new complete, dealing with other things, etc.  Then when I came back to help, I realised they had those Tensor bushings and they didn't fit in their new trucks, so I ended up cutting off the interlocking part - completely still worked as normal bushings anyway - but that was when I really looked into it and pulled apart a complete with Tensors and tested those bushings in all the other normal trucks in the shop at the time - nothing fit at all.

That was from a long time ago now, or so it seems, but not many people I know use Tensors and I rarely see them out and about besides on the completes they come on, more for the younger ages.

Maybe one other guy I know rides Tensors and he swapped out the bushings for Bones right away, but I am guessing many more people ride them in other places.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on February 07, 2022, 11:22:57 AM
So on a set of stock indys, the *bottom bushing (on baseplate) is the barrel, and the top (against nut) is the conical. Is this how other people see it or am I absolutely wrong?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 07, 2022, 12:03:19 PM
So on a set of stock indys, the *bottom bushing (on baseplate) is the barrel, and the top (against nut) is the conical. Is this how other people see it or am I absolutely wrong?
That's correct. Indys stock have the barrel bottom. Its up to you whether you want to switch it up since indy aftermarkets offer either conical or barrel bottom. The top bushing for any truck company should be 'conical' but whenever people mention bushing style, they're most likely referring to the bottom bushing. Ventures have a barrel bottom and Thunders have a conical bottom as stock. hope this helped clear up any confusion!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 07, 2022, 02:31:34 PM
my wheelbase knowledge is pretty solid, but how does a longer/shorter nose or tail affect the way you skate?
a similar question, what's the appeal of twin tail boards? is there any significant difference that can be noticed skating them by an average person?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 07, 2022, 03:09:00 PM
my wheelbase knowledge is pretty solid, but how does a longer/shorter nose or tail affect the way you skate?
a similar question, what's the appeal of twin tail boards? is there any significant difference that can be noticed skating them by an average person?


I guess I am so used to how boards feel that when I skate something that is not a normal board, eg approximately 7 inch nose and 6.6 inch tail things can often feel off for me, even though I prefer to do things like pop shov variations off the nose rather than the tail (mainly growing up trying to make the board last longer, but also a good way to start runs, first trick pop shov and then going forwards on a board the right way).  Too long or too short can mess up that muscle memory of how I usually skate, but oddly enough on some cruisers that I know have a shorter nose, or one with a significantly longer nose as I drilled the wheelbase back, I got used to it easily enough.

Back when boards went from ramp setups to street setups (89 to 93), drilling the wheelbase down to lengthen the nose was what everyone did (and then they came factory double drilled for a while) but that really upped the switch game of being able to do a lot of things from both ends, as well as all the nose slide variations that came later.

When I had a skate on a few twins, the main thing I noticed was I always felt like the board was too short and I was skating the board backwards when I went to do nose tricks - of course this is how it would feel, being twin tails, but others really like the fact that they can skate a board either way and not have to turn it around.  The twin nose board also felt weird for the fact that both noses were over 7" which threw out my timing on normal things.

Before twins, there was also the option as I did to use both ends differently, eg some tricks would be better off the nose, some off the tail, for both normal skating or switch skating, so with slightly different angles and lengths of kicks, it is funny to think how used to a normal board your body can get, as well as how weird a different board feels with a longer or shorter kick at either or both ends.

That said, most people can get used to it within a few sessions, as long as it is not so completely different to what you used to skate, same woodshop, concave, but just different shapes.

Totally different woodshops, way different concaves, angle of kicks and all of that is just too much all at once, for some boards I have skated, so either given them straight back to the owner, or taken them apart and either altered them or passed them on to others.


 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 07, 2022, 03:10:14 PM
shorter nose = quicker flick
less distance for the front foot to travel
probably equal less control but that depends on the rider
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on February 07, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Space Cowboy on February 07, 2022, 05:54:14 PM
shorter nose = quicker flick
less distance for the front foot to travel
probably equal less control but that depends on the rider

A longer nose usually allows more leverage for a flick, the longer flick lets it be a higher and smoother flip due to the toe having more force

However a shorter nose makes the flick more snappy which is also appealing in different scenarios
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 07, 2022, 06:11:46 PM
my wheelbase knowledge is pretty solid, but how does a longer/shorter nose or tail affect the way you skate?
a similar question, what's the appeal of twin tail boards? is there any significant difference that can be noticed skating them by an average person?
Really depends what "average" is. When I was a newbie I actually thought the big kick was the tail (I think I just assumed it was that way because of old 80s boards) and often rode boards backwards. Then my 4th board was a girl board and felt absolutely awful to ride that way. You can just feel when it's wrong. I think the appeal of twin tail is it feels right either way you ride it and you kinda get longer life out of the board. Altho possibly suffers for nollie stuff
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 07, 2022, 06:40:48 PM
What's your go to for decks with a short WB, long and steep kicks? Getting way more pop than I can handle and I'm ghost popping all day.

Smaller wheels?
Lower trucks?
Trucks that extend / bring in WB?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 08, 2022, 04:48:13 AM
Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…

I tried to find it, but only came up with various other pics and ads, but they definitely were marketed as a swap or mix and match shoe, as per this ad in Thrasher 1993:


https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg


(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg)


And this pair for sale on some site:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/2819/8815778781_0457464893_c.jpg)


(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f96a4b10c5c29032d39b04738ac152ba/tumblr_nx3eiviVXl1tj07qxo1_1280.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 08, 2022, 05:03:59 AM
What's your go to for decks with a short WB, long and steep kicks? Getting way more pop than I can handle and I'm ghost popping all day.

Smaller wheels?
Lower trucks?
Trucks that extend / bring in WB?


I am probably not much help here as I would flatten the board more so than anything else, but if the board is how it is and cannot be changed, I found that the lower trucks and smaller wheels combo made it a lot easier to skate and connect to the ground way more easily, as per that 8.25" Creature deck with a set of Venture 5.2 low and 49mm wheels setup I sent you pics of that other time.

People still skate that board that I keep at the indoor park and think it is the best tech setup they have rolled on, compared to most of the other bigger and wider (not to mention more mellow) setups most people I know have going as their regular board.


Was that also the sort of setup Ben DeGros would do on a short steep deck?

I hadn't gone back over his videos to check, but I seem to recall something like that.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on February 08, 2022, 05:17:48 AM
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Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…
[close]

I tried to find it, but only came up with various other pics and ads, but they definitely were marketed as a swap or mix and match shoe, as per this ad in Thrasher 1993:


https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg


(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg)


And this pair for sale on some site:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/2819/8815778781_0457464893_c.jpg)


(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f96a4b10c5c29032d39b04738ac152ba/tumblr_nx3eiviVXl1tj07qxo1_1280.jpg)


champion! I actually think it was Dan Rogers! I’ll surf back through some thrasher back issues too. It was the first ad of them I ever saw… Not The Same
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 08, 2022, 07:41:13 AM
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Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…
[close]

I tried to find it, but only came up with various other pics and ads, but they definitely were marketed as a swap or mix and match shoe, as per this ad in Thrasher 1993:


https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg


(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg)


And this pair for sale on some site:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/2819/8815778781_0457464893_c.jpg)


(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f96a4b10c5c29032d39b04738ac152ba/tumblr_nx3eiviVXl1tj07qxo1_1280.jpg)


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champion! I actually think it was Dan Rogers! I’ll surf back through some thrasher back issues too. It was the first ad of them I ever saw… Not The Same
Airwalk is blowing it. The kids want wacky cupsole high tops.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 08, 2022, 09:12:42 AM
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Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…
[close]

I tried to find it, but only came up with various other pics and ads, but they definitely were marketed as a swap or mix and match shoe, as per this ad in Thrasher 1993:


https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg


(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg)


And this pair for sale on some site:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/2819/8815778781_0457464893_c.jpg)


(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f96a4b10c5c29032d39b04738ac152ba/tumblr_nx3eiviVXl1tj07qxo1_1280.jpg)


[close]
champion! I actually think it was Dan Rogers! I’ll surf back through some thrasher back issues too. It was the first ad of them I ever saw… Not The Same
[close]
Airwalk is blowing it. The kids want wacky cupsole high tops.
I scraped & saved to get a pair of the green AND a pair of the yellow, and then wore one of each, because I saw Jovontae Turner rocking them like that at EMB.
I felt so bad ass.
I looked like such a goof.
NGL, I will still 100% do that shit today if the opportunity to do so presents itself.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 10:07:54 AM
Would buy all Airwalk NTS in 2022 and beyond
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on February 08, 2022, 11:58:09 AM
Would buy all Airwalk NTS in 2022 and beyond

Same. I would pay top dollar for a pair of those.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on February 08, 2022, 12:03:11 PM
Same. NTS’s were the bizness.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on February 08, 2022, 03:49:35 PM
Is half inch plywood thick enough for the sides and surface of a ramp? I got some free but most builds call for two layers of 1/4” on the surface and 3/4” for the sides
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on February 08, 2022, 06:24:18 PM
Is half inch plywood thick enough for the sides and surface of a ramp? I got some free but most builds call for two layers of 1/4” on the surface and 3/4” for the sides

You want your sides stiff so double it up with 1/2". If it is only 3 ply's then you might be able to use it for the surface, it needs to be able to bend. I usually use 2 layers of 3/8" for the surface with a 1/4" top, you only use one layer if you have a sketlite like product
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 08, 2022, 07:01:18 PM
Is half inch plywood thick enough for the sides and surface of a ramp? I got some free but most builds call for two layers of 1/4” on the surface and 3/4” for the sides

Thicker is safer for sure.

It also depends on how big the ramp is and how much of a strain is going to be put on it.

For a skatepark that gets all day every day type wear, that thing has to be solid, but for a solo skate lightly in your own backyard type of ramp, I have never had any issues with the sides being about that on most of my ramps I had built over the years.

What I would recommend is also to brace the sides with 2 x 4 pieces as well - same as what I use as the ribs for the transition support, just so it holds up better.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 08, 2022, 07:10:27 PM
Why is almost all skate hardware anodized black? I think plain silver bolts would look way better
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on February 09, 2022, 10:10:01 AM
Why is almost all skate hardware anodized black? I think plain silver bolts would look way better

Most are not anodized black they are black oxide, the cheapest way to prevent corrosion on cheap screws. A silver screw that doesn't rust too fast is more expensive. I usually spend $3 on bolts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ol Nick on February 09, 2022, 06:17:55 PM
What's your go to for decks with a short WB, long and steep kicks? Getting way more pop than I can handle and I'm ghost popping all day.

Smaller wheels?
Lower trucks?
Trucks that extend / bring in WB?
When I was struggling with a steep kick on a Creature, I did some casual research and it seemed like most pros I could find footage of riding them were on Indy or Ace. Aside from the NHS bias that would influence the number of Creature/SC riders on Indy, I wonder if steeper kick or longer WB riders skew toward short WB trucks and vice versa.
The steep/short thing is tough though. I had a short WB, steep (and long) kicks Clutch deck that I still preferred on Thunders or Venture over Ace probably just cause they pushed the WB out to a comfortable spot for me. I think I just acclimated to the pop timing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 09, 2022, 07:24:06 PM
steep kicks, short wb + ventures is my jam
poppy pop pop
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whoami on February 09, 2022, 07:36:21 PM
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Long shot but…
Does anyone remember when airwalk NTS first dropped and their ad featured Jason Rogers (?) skating in one blue shoe and one yellow?
That actually happened right? Want to confirm my brain isn’t totally fried…
[close]

I tried to find it, but only came up with various other pics and ads, but they definitely were marketed as a swap or mix and match shoe, as per this ad in Thrasher 1993:


https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg


(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1993/April_1993/TH0493Apr1993p82-83_610w.jpg)


And this pair for sale on some site:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/2819/8815778781_0457464893_c.jpg)


(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f96a4b10c5c29032d39b04738ac152ba/tumblr_nx3eiviVXl1tj07qxo1_1280.jpg)


[close]
champion! I actually think it was Dan Rogers! I’ll surf back through some thrasher back issues too. It was the first ad of them I ever saw… Not The Same
[close]
Airwalk is blowing it. The kids want wacky cupsole high tops.
[close]
I scraped & saved to get a pair of the green AND a pair of the yellow, and then wore one of each, because I saw Jovontae Turner rocking them like that at EMB.
I felt so bad ass.
I looked like such a goof.
NGL, I will still 100% do that shit today if the opportunity to do so presents itself.



Man, those took forever to break in. Also they lasted forever and finally destroyed them by hand so my mom would buy me a new pair of shoes. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on February 09, 2022, 08:21:37 PM
steep kicks, short wb + ventures is my jam
poppy pop pop
Interested in the short-wheelbase-steep-kicks rec's!
That being said, does anybody have rec's for a steep kick, short wheelbase deck that still has a mellower concave? Is that Creature? I currently have medium, steep, and steep and it feels great for some but definitely not all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 09, 2022, 08:25:18 PM
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steep kicks, short wb + ventures is my jam
poppy pop pop
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Interested in the short-wheelbase-steep-kicks rec's!
That being said, does anybody have rec's for a steep kick, short wheelbase deck that still has a mellower concave? Is that Creature? I currently have medium, steep, and steep and it feels great for some but definitely not all.
the santa cruz boat 8.8 i had was flat in the middle
14.25 wheelbase
wasnt in love with the shape but id recommend it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 10, 2022, 12:58:39 AM
Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on February 10, 2022, 01:02:51 AM
Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?

Try shaving a little bit of wax into the pivot cups.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on February 10, 2022, 01:11:57 AM
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Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?
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Try shaving a little bit of wax into the pivot cups.
Wax crumbs don’t last long. Drop of lube per session keeps it quiet. Tri Flow goes in the bearings, bike chains, and pivot cups
(https://i.ibb.co/ZM4P6ty/2-D413490-C028-426-D-9661-7-F25760440-ED.webp) (https://ibb.co/ZM4P6ty)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 10, 2022, 01:19:44 AM
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Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?
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Try shaving a little bit of wax into the pivot cups.
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Wax crumbs don’t last long. Drop of lube per session keeps it quiet. Tri Flow goes in the bearings, bike chains, and pivot cups
(https://i.ibb.co/ZM4P6ty/2-D413490-C028-426-D-9661-7-F25760440-ED.webp) (https://ibb.co/ZM4P6ty)
You can try Sewing machine oil. Got a couple tubes at a craft/fabric store for like $2 years ago. You can even go full Martin Goodman and do all the hinges in your house. Enjoy the silence.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 10, 2022, 01:31:38 AM
Thx guys.

You do this almost before every session, really?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 10, 2022, 02:05:03 AM
Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?


I used to drop a spot of lube in the pivot cup every so often, as my trucks are very much a set them up and never touch them again type of deal, much like others here.

After changing over a few boards a while back, waxing the pivot nub was way easier, less messy and kept the whole thing silent indefinitely.  I forget who recommended it, but it is a lot better than dropping wax shavings into the pivot cup.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CYklaBaBMa2/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on February 10, 2022, 11:18:02 AM
Who are they talking about

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=4497.0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 13, 2022, 06:48:46 PM
Who are they talking about

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=4497.0
your mother
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 13, 2022, 07:55:28 PM
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Why is almost all skate hardware anodized black? I think plain silver bolts would look way better
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Most are not anodized black they are black oxide, the cheapest way to prevent corrosion on cheap screws. A silver screw that doesn't rust too fast is more expensive. I usually spend $3 on bolts

A friend of mine bought anodized Torx-headed “skate” bolts from McMaster-Carr. Like $20 worth of hardware.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 13, 2022, 07:57:37 PM
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Squeaky trucks question:

What oil can be used or which should be used best case?
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Try shaving a little bit of wax into the pivot cups.
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Wax crumbs don’t last long. Drop of lube per session keeps it quiet. Tri Flow goes in the bearings, bike chains, and pivot cups
(https://i.ibb.co/ZM4P6ty/2-D413490-C028-426-D-9661-7-F25760440-ED.webp) (https://ibb.co/ZM4P6ty)
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You can try Sewing machine oil. Got a couple tubes at a craft/fabric store for like $2 years ago. You can even go full Martin Goodman and do all the hinges in your house. Enjoy the silence.

Lubricant for many industrial bearings is just seeing machine oil. Many “bearing” lubricants are just this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on February 14, 2022, 06:33:26 AM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 14, 2022, 06:37:20 AM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist


Yes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on February 14, 2022, 12:49:19 PM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist

Yes, Janoski-esq finance bros wear them on campus with track pants and North Face puffers

Never seen a skater wear them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on February 14, 2022, 01:00:06 PM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist

Almost everyone in my area skates them but that is because they are always on sale at the local shop and at the nike clearance/outlet stores here...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 14, 2022, 02:39:06 PM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist
i see them sometimes, but i've only once seen the nike nyjah shoes. it sounds dickish but they mean an automatic kook from me. the kid that had them kind of ripped though so he was okay.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Underpressureflips on February 14, 2022, 04:14:30 PM
Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist

I have a friend that rips but doesn’t know or care about skate culture whatsoever. He’s skating a pair of the Shane’s. I asked how he liked them after years of skating janoskis. His dead serious response was “these aren’t janoskis??”
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: codymacfan on February 15, 2022, 01:35:40 PM
I rarely skate skateparks, but when I do it always makes me think my board size is too small because I feel less in control (slippery/dustier ground, bigger obstacles, etc). I’ve been at 8.38 so naturally an upgrade would be 8.5 but I know if I go up, I can’t go back. Is the park just getting to me? Am I crazy? Or does this happen to everyone else?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on February 15, 2022, 04:45:04 PM
Do Cons pro's (Alexis mid) still fit a half size smaller than Vans?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 15, 2022, 04:57:59 PM
I rarely skate skateparks, but when I do it always makes me think my board size is too small because I feel less in control (slippery/dustier ground, bigger obstacles, etc). I’ve been at 8.38 so naturally an upgrade would be 8.5 but I know if I go up, I can’t go back. Is the park just getting to me? Am I crazy? Or does this happen to everyone else?
i've never really gotten that but i can understand why you would feel that, however sizing up a deck would likely not resolve the problems you described.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2022, 05:29:19 PM
I rarely skate skateparks, but when I do it always makes me think my board size is too small because I feel less in control (slippery/dustier ground, bigger obstacles, etc). I’ve been at 8.38 so naturally an upgrade would be 8.5 but I know if I go up, I can’t go back. Is the park just getting to me? Am I crazy? Or does this happen to everyone else?


The 8.38 is pretty perfect - a little more nimble than 8.5 but at least the DLX 8.38 (same BBS shape as Bakerboys and a few others) is almost 8.5 anyway.

Re skateparks - before covid I used to skate a lot more parks, but in the last couple of years, I have been skating my own shed mini (micro) ramp, carparks, curbs and only ventured out to skateparks once in a while and everything feels weird and strange and big now to me.

When I think back about what I used to do (certainly more than what I can do now, but definitely far from pro skills anyway) I just don't quite have it in me to even try half that stuff any more.

If you skate them a lot more, you would get more familiar with the parks and layouts and be more confident, but when skating them less you will find that those skills often get left behind.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pdknox on February 15, 2022, 05:42:05 PM
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Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist
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i see them sometimes, but i've only once seen the nike nyjah shoes. it sounds dickish but they mean an automatic kook from me. the kid that had them kind of ripped though so he was okay.

Ha! Same. I’ve never seen the nyjah 2s out in the wild until today when I went skating and looked down at my own feet. I was genuinely curious about the shoe tech and wanted to try a pair. I must say the grip on them is pretty good. 



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: codymacfan on February 15, 2022, 07:03:03 PM
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I rarely skate skateparks, but when I do it always makes me think my board size is too small because I feel less in control (slippery/dustier ground, bigger obstacles, etc). I’ve been at 8.38 so naturally an upgrade would be 8.5 but I know if I go up, I can’t go back. Is the park just getting to me? Am I crazy? Or does this happen to everyone else?
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i've never really gotten that but i can understand why you would feel that, however sizing up a deck would likely not resolve the problems you described.

I feel that. Probably was just not used to the park at all.

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I rarely skate skateparks, but when I do it always makes me think my board size is too small because I feel less in control (slippery/dustier ground, bigger obstacles, etc). I’ve been at 8.38 so naturally an upgrade would be 8.5 but I know if I go up, I can’t go back. Is the park just getting to me? Am I crazy? Or does this happen to everyone else?
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The 8.38 is pretty perfect - a little more nimble than 8.5 but at least the DLX 8.38 (same BBS shape as Bakerboys and a few others) is almost 8.5 anyway.

Re skateparks - before covid I used to skate a lot more parks, but in the last couple of years, I have been skating my own shed mini (micro) ramp, carparks, curbs and only ventured out to skateparks once in a while and everything feels weird and strange and big now to me.

When I think back about what I used to do (certainly more than what I can do now, but definitely far from pro skills anyway) I just don't quite have it in me to even try half that stuff any more.

If you skate them a lot more, you would get more familiar with the parks and layouts and be more confident, but when skating them less you will find that those skills often get left behind.



You’re right, probably just need better conditioning than curbs haha thank you for making sense. Everything did feel big at the park. Just not used to it anymore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 15, 2022, 07:18:21 PM
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Has anyone seen the Nike SB Shane O’Neill’s in the wild? I’m convinced these shoes do not actually exist
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i see them sometimes, but i've only once seen the nike nyjah shoes. it sounds dickish but they mean an automatic kook from me. the kid that had them kind of ripped though so he was okay.
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Ha! Same. I’ve never seen the nyjah 2s out in the wild until today when I went skating and looked down at my own feet. I was genuinely curious about the shoe tech and wanted to try a pair. I must say the grip on them is pretty good.
every bone and muscle in my body is screaming at me right now... i must resist..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 15, 2022, 08:32:05 PM
I see Shanes on a ton of alt tech bros.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on February 17, 2022, 09:19:17 PM
Dose anyone know where McCrank buys his shirts?

I almost always skate in a long sleeve button downs and I would like to support
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 17, 2022, 10:39:06 PM
what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 17, 2022, 11:51:03 PM
what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?

(https://c.tenor.com/4VPWGdlf-b0AAAAC/charlie-the-unicorn-shun-the-non-believer.gif)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 18, 2022, 01:39:08 AM

(https://c.tenor.com/4VPWGdlf-b0AAAAC/charlie-the-unicorn-shun-the-non-believer.gif)
show me ONE clip of someone successfully flipping one of those planks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 18, 2022, 01:39:57 AM
what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?


Antihero pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable as well as taking the piss out of the rest of the skateboard industry over their "full shaped" decks.

There is a video of all of them skating them and they seem to be going ok on them, but I do wonder how many will just go on a wall, or even be perfect to reshape into something else, even slightly round off the kicks...

Any which way they all sold out fairly quickly, from all the places I saw anyway.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CXB2asxA5QU/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 18, 2022, 01:43:34 AM

show me ONE clip of someone successfully flipping one of those planks

I hadn't even seen your reply when I was looking for that clip, but I think there is at least one or two flips in there.

But they are a "fun board" and not at all to be taken seriously really.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 18, 2022, 02:24:35 AM
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show me ONE clip of someone successfully flipping one of those planks
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I hadn't even seen your reply when I was looking for that clip, but I think there is at least one or two flips in there.

But they are a "fun board" and not at all to be taken seriously really.

At least 1 kickflip and 1 half-cab flip

Shape fits the dimensions of 1 sheet of griptape, not trimming required, optimized for the busy pro
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 18, 2022, 02:33:06 AM
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what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?
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Antihero pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable as well as taking the piss out of the rest of the skateboard industry over their "full shaped" decks.

There is a video of all of them skating them and they seem to be going ok on them, but I do wonder how many will just go on a wall, or even be perfect to reshape into something else, even slightly round off the kicks...

Any which way they all sold out fairly quickly, from all the places I saw anyway.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CXB2asxA5QU/
holy shit.
i must admit i was skeptical at first, but after seeing that video i'm quite frankly mindfucked. how can something be so elegant, yet so full? true grimple? die cut for grip. grimple. grimple. grimple. True full! (Grimple)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 18, 2022, 03:08:04 AM
There's been a few of these plank boards over the years I think in the past it's been presented as a way you can cut your own custom shape.
I think alien and creature had templates included and enjoi had one with different patterns as the graphic.
Spray a graphic and put some small tassles in the corners and make your own magic carpet
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BoxStuffer on February 19, 2022, 08:41:20 AM
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show me ONE clip of someone successfully flipping one of those planks
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I hadn't even seen your reply when I was looking for that clip, but I think there is at least one or two flips in there.

But they are a "fun board" and not at all to be taken seriously really.
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At least 1 kickflip and 1 half-cab flip

Shape fits the dimensions of 1 sheet of griptape, not trimming required, optimized for the busy pro

From Gerwer's Chrome Ball:

“Grimple Doesn’t Cut Corners” is incredible.

It all started because of a board that didn’t fit in our boxes. My OCD made me so angry at the size of that board, I remember looking at the box and thinking, “How sick would it be to have a whole board that’s the exact size of this box? It would fit perfectly.”

We already had the mold and wheelbase to fit this criteria, so I ran into production and asked them to make me a board that’s the dimensions of our boxes.

“What?”

“Yes, so when you put them all in the box, they fit perfectly.”

That’s why that board exists. The True Full, the truest there is.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2022/01/chrome-ball-interview-153-frank-gerwer.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 05:22:11 AM
There's been a few of these plank boards over the years I think in the past it's been presented as a way you can cut your own custom shape.
I think alien and creature had templates included and enjoi had one with different patterns as the graphic.
Spray a graphic and put some small tassles in the corners and make your own magic carpet


I haven't seen any of those in a while now, so I wonder if they just don't have the interest any more, or the smaller board manufacturers and DIY people are doing more of their own, compared to buying uncut blanks anyway.

The "make your own magic carpet" idea is pretty cool too.

Waiting to see if someone actually does that - which would look good for an old King of the Road challenge type setup, maybe before it went to Viceland and got blown out.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on February 20, 2022, 05:50:40 AM
When you setup a new complete, skate it for 5 sessions and wanna sell it . How much would you ask for ?
FA Louie Lopez 8.18 ( his first board ) new 80€
Venture 5.6 v-lights new 86€
Spitfire Tablets 53 mm new 60€
Bronson G3 new 35€
So we talking 260€ new, around 290 USD
Edit. No chips on the board but a few nose and tailslides, a few grinds on the trucks. Wheels at 52,8 mm.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on February 20, 2022, 06:02:30 AM
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There's been a few of these plank boards over the years I think in the past it's been presented as a way you can cut your own custom shape.
I think alien and creature had templates included and enjoi had one with different patterns as the graphic.
Spray a graphic and put some small tassles in the corners and make your own magic carpet
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I haven't seen any of those in a while now, so I wonder if they just don't have the interest any more, or the smaller board manufacturers and DIY people are doing more of their own, compared to buying uncut blanks anyway.

The "make your own magic carpet" idea is pretty cool too.

Waiting to see if someone actually does that - which would look good for an old King of the Road challenge type setup, maybe before it went to Viceland and got blown out.

Blast Skates did another run of theirs last year.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQiPTvohqB2/?utm_medium=copy_link

i think it just never really got off. aspecially since these days its not as hard to get your hands on uncuts for way cheaper than the branded stuff. especially like the creature one that didnt even have a graphic but you paid full price for.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on February 20, 2022, 10:05:47 AM
When you setup a new complete, skate it for 5 sessions and wanna sell it . How much would you ask for ?
FA Louie Lopez 8.18 ( his first board ) new 80€
Venture 5.6 v-lights new 86€
Spitfire Tablets 53 mm new 60€
Bronson G3 new 35€
So we talking 260€ new, around 290 USD
Edit. No chips on the board but a few nose and tailslides, a few grinds on the trucks. Wheels at 52,8 mm.

50 +/- 10%. Depending on who's more broke, me or the buyer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on February 20, 2022, 01:53:03 PM
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When you setup a new complete, skate it for 5 sessions and wanna sell it . How much would you ask for ?
FA Louie Lopez 8.18 ( his first board ) new 80€
Venture 5.6 v-lights new 86€
Spitfire Tablets 53 mm new 60€
Bronson G3 new 35€
So we talking 260€ new, around 290 USD
Edit. No chips on the board but a few nose and tailslides, a few grinds on the trucks. Wheels at 52,8 mm.
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50 +/- 10%. Depending on who's more broke, me or the buyer.

Both are broke so.. gonna ask for 160.. would be a good deal I guess
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
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There's been a few of these plank boards over the years I think in the past it's been presented as a way you can cut your own custom shape.
I think alien and creature had templates included and enjoi had one with different patterns as the graphic.
Spray a graphic and put some small tassles in the corners and make your own magic carpet
[close]


I haven't seen any of those in a while now, so I wonder if they just don't have the interest any more, or the smaller board manufacturers and DIY people are doing more of their own, compared to buying uncut blanks anyway.

The "make your own magic carpet" idea is pretty cool too.

Waiting to see if someone actually does that - which would look good for an old King of the Road challenge type setup, maybe before it went to Viceland and got blown out.
[close]

Blast Skates did another run of theirs last year.

i think it just never really got off. aspecially since these days its not as hard to get your hands on uncuts for way cheaper than the branded stuff. especially like the creature one that didnt even have a graphic but you paid full price for.


Yeah that looks great - even rounded off the corners, double drilled, shape guide included. 

Got it all going on right there.


The other thing I was thinking too is quite a few brands are now actually making more shapes and sizes, as it was fairly limited at one stage, but now there are so many more bigger boards, or at least different shapes, so more people are happier on something they can buy that is already the right shape and size for what they want, or close enough.

A couple of guys I know are all over the Scram boards now, but they were right into the buying blanks and cutting their own as no one else had anything like that, or at least not in any quality wood with reasonable availability too.

It is good to have options.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on February 21, 2022, 06:04:13 AM
Whats the best paint/laquer/varnish or whatever I can get in a spraycan that'll give an unfinished deck that factory fresh shine?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2022, 03:05:56 PM
Whats the best paint/laquer/varnish or whatever I can get in a spraycan that'll give an unfinished deck that factory fresh shine?

Is it called "Clear coat" or is that just the name that people give it?

That is what I have always thought it was, but there might be other brands that just list it as "clear" in the paint range.

As to specific brands, I don't really know about there in USA, but some of the higher end paint brands might give you a better product than the cheap $2 shop cans.

I recall anything with a matt finish doesn't slide as well as a gloss finish, but anything sprayed too thickly will also tend to not slide as well.

Sorry that pic is probably huge.


(https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/dw/image/v2/BBRV_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-srg-internal-master-catalog/default/dwe3ef18dc/images/342260/SCA_342260_hi-res.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 22, 2022, 04:49:48 AM
What the heck is going on with shoe companies and not making size 13 shoes? Nike and Adidas are the worst but sometimes nb and vans too. New shoe comes out and every site has every size but not 13 but they often have 14,15,16. Are they superstitious? I've noticed often size 4 is also greyed out. There's a certain type of people who don't like the number 4 who are pretty important to sports brands.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 22, 2022, 08:39:49 AM
i usually see sz 13 but rarely 12.5 (my actual size)
maybe they are just selling out early?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 22, 2022, 08:58:03 AM
i usually see sz 13 but rarely 12.5 (my actual size)
maybe they are just selling out early?
I don't think a skate shoe has ever been made in a 12.5. I've only seen it in certain runners or basketball shoes. Usually higher end.
Yeah see that's what you'd think the logical reason is but it's just never available. You look the second the shoes come out and 13 is already greyed out or you look at shoes that are months old same thing. Now also there's the fact a lot of shops don't bother with most shoes over size 12 but they will have the really big sizes. And I'm looking on the official sites and they don't even have them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 22, 2022, 09:13:15 AM
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what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?
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Antihero pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable as well as taking the piss out of the rest of the skateboard industry over their "full shaped" decks.

There is a video of all of them skating them and they seem to be going ok on them, but I do wonder how many will just go on a wall, or even be perfect to reshape into something else, even slightly round off the kicks...

Any which way they all sold out fairly quickly, from all the places I saw anyway.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CXB2asxA5QU/

I wanted a true full so bad, went shop to shop trying to cop one. Now I have ebay alerts for true fulls and night hammers...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on February 22, 2022, 09:51:47 AM
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what the fuck is the point of those 'full' antihero decks that are just rectangles? surely there is NO way that anyone can skate with them, right?

right?
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Antihero pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable as well as taking the piss out of the rest of the skateboard industry over their "full shaped" decks.

There is a video of all of them skating them and they seem to be going ok on them, but I do wonder how many will just go on a wall, or even be perfect to reshape into something else, even slightly round off the kicks...

Any which way they all sold out fairly quickly, from all the places I saw anyway.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CXB2asxA5QU/
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I wanted a true full so bad, went shop to shop trying to cop one. Now I have ebay alerts for true fulls and night hammers...
(https://i.ibb.co/9wcpd8Q/32-F8846-F-72-EB-4572-BD8-D-D43235331022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9wcpd8Q)
They didn’t send many out to shops. I wanted one bad enough to order blanks and make a bootleg. It rules!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 22, 2022, 09:58:43 AM
What the heck is going on with shoe companies and not making size 13 shoes? Nike and Adidas are the worst but sometimes nb and vans too. New shoe comes out and every site has every size but not 13 but they often have 14,15,16. Are they superstitious? I've noticed often size 4 is also greyed out. There's a certain type of people who don't like the number 4 who are pretty important to sports brands.

I'm buying all of them, probably.

But really it's just economics. There's less people with size 13 feet, so they make less than they would size 8-12, but there are still enough of us for them to sell through rather quickly. Meanwhile, sizes 14-16 are VERY uncommon so they're less likely to sell through, even in small quantities.
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Post by: Mean salto on February 22, 2022, 10:08:53 AM
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What the heck is going on with shoe companies and not making size 13 shoes? Nike and Adidas are the worst but sometimes nb and vans too. New shoe comes out and every site has every size but not 13 but they often have 14,15,16. Are they superstitious? I've noticed often size 4 is also greyed out. There's a certain type of people who don't like the number 4 who are pretty important to sports brands.
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I'm buying all of them, probably.

But really it's just economics. There's less people with size 13 feet, so they make less than they would size 8-12, but there are still enough of us for them to sell through rather quickly. Meanwhile, sizes 14-16 are VERY uncommon so they're less likely to sell through, even in small quantities.
Yeah those are all the logical reasons (things ive realised and dealt with for about 20 years) and I don't really believe there's some conspiracy.
 I responded to off already but it's literally every single site no matter if you check the minute the shoe comes out, months later or its a staple shoe that's pretty much always been around. It's fine tho it's just a sign I should only wear classic vans
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 22, 2022, 10:20:29 AM
How long do blazer mids take to break in?

I usually skate jordan 1s, new balance 440s. Had a few pairs of blazers for chillin but tried skating some yesterday. Jesus christ they're grippy on the flick, was struggling. Probably not as ideal as jordans for me overall but can see them being nice when they get a little less aggressively grippy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Space Cowboy on February 22, 2022, 10:29:16 AM
How long do blazer mids take to break in?

I usually skate jordan 1s, new balance 440s. Had a few pairs of blazers for chillin but tried skating some yesterday. Jesus christ they're grippy on the flick, was struggling. Probably not as ideal as jordans for me overall but can see them being nice when they get a little less aggressively grippy.

The gum on shoes like the blazers is much less dense as what you would see on a #440, you either got to get used to the gummy/grippy flick as its different material than what you are used to or basically wear them down far enough where there is simply less gum on the toe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 22, 2022, 10:31:26 AM
How long do blazer mids take to break in?

I usually skate jordan 1s, new balance 440s. Had a few pairs of blazers for chillin but tried skating some yesterday. Jesus christ they're grippy on the flick, was struggling. Probably not as ideal as jordans for me overall but can see them being nice when they get a little less aggressively grippy.

Jordan 1s are some of my faves, all time.
These days I remain real committed to nb 1010s (thicker than aj1s for sure).
It’s been so long since I’ve skated blazers. They look good/great. I remember them being a thicker vulc, which would be a huge plus for me as most vulcanized shoes hurt my feet. A lot.
The super grip on flick isn’t all that helpful for me. I usually jam my board into my shins for a few days trying to do kickflips and, best case scenario, succeed in doing these half flips were the board sticks to my foot, goes twice as high, and ends up way in front of me. I then compensate and dial it back too far, which results in some really shabby looking ‘mobbed’ kickflip attempts. Tbh I’m not sure what the vulcs really help with. But the blazers look cool as hell. Just very smart with a pair of regular jeans.
Are they tts?
How comfortable are they in relation to Jordan’s/dunks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: VCR on February 22, 2022, 10:32:54 AM
Is Drehobl done getting pro boards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 22, 2022, 10:41:52 AM
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How long do blazer mids take to break in?

I usually skate jordan 1s, new balance 440s. Had a few pairs of blazers for chillin but tried skating some yesterday. Jesus christ they're grippy on the flick, was struggling. Probably not as ideal as jordans for me overall but can see them being nice when they get a little less aggressively grippy.
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Jordan 1s are some of my faves, all time.
These days I remain real committed to nb 1010s (thicker than aj1s for sure).
It’s been so long since I’ve skated blazers. They look good/great. I remember them being a thicker vulc, which would be a huge plus for me as most vulcanized shoes hurt my feet. A lot.
The super grip on flick isn’t all that helpful for me. I usually jam my board into my shins for a few days trying to do kickflips and, best case scenario, succeed in doing these half flips were the board sticks to my foot, goes twice as high, and ends up way in front of me. I then compensate and dial it back too far, which results in some really shabby looking ‘mobbed’ kickflip attempts. Tbh I’m not sure what the vulcs really help with. But the blazers look cool as hell. Just very smart with a pair of regular jeans.
Are they tts?
How comfortable are they in relation to Jordan’s/dunks?


Yeah I had a few pairs because I like the look a lot but didnt plan on skating them at all, thought I'd try a few times though.

Definitely feel you with the super grip not being helpful. My friends say it gets better as the rubber wears down a little. When it works my flip tricks are super high and proper but I have to flick so much harder.

They're true to size, a little less comfortable than jordans/dunks imo but the padded collar is very nice. Though they're noticeably narrower and thats a bit of a problem for me, feels like my ankle is a bit more prone to rolling over.

Not an issue right now but feel like they're going to get floppy and lose their structure a lot quicker than cupsoles, so probably don't want to skate them when they get to that point.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 22, 2022, 10:53:45 AM
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How long do blazer mids take to break in?

I usually skate jordan 1s, new balance 440s. Had a few pairs of blazers for chillin but tried skating some yesterday. Jesus christ they're grippy on the flick, was struggling. Probably not as ideal as jordans for me overall but can see them being nice when they get a little less aggressively grippy.
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Jordan 1s are some of my faves, all time.
These days I remain real committed to nb 1010s (thicker than aj1s for sure).
It’s been so long since I’ve skated blazers. They look good/great. I remember them being a thicker vulc, which would be a huge plus for me as most vulcanized shoes hurt my feet. A lot.
The super grip on flick isn’t all that helpful for me. I usually jam my board into my shins for a few days trying to do kickflips and, best case scenario, succeed in doing these half flips were the board sticks to my foot, goes twice as high, and ends up way in front of me. I then compensate and dial it back too far, which results in some really shabby looking ‘mobbed’ kickflip attempts. Tbh I’m not sure what the vulcs really help with. But the blazers look cool as hell. Just very smart with a pair of regular jeans.
Are they tts?
How comfortable are they in relation to Jordan’s/dunks?
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Yeah I had a few pairs because I like the look a lot but didnt plan on skating them at all, thought I'd try a few times though.

Definitely feel you with the super grip not being helpful. My friends say it gets better as the rubber wears down a little. When it works my flip tricks are super high and proper but I have to flick so much harder.

They're true to size, a little less comfortable than jordans/dunks imo but the padded collar is very nice. Though they're noticeably narrower and thats a bit of a problem for me, feels like my ankle is a bit more prone to rolling over.

Not an issue right now but feel like they're going to get floppy and lose their structure a lot quicker than cupsoles, so probably don't want to skate them when they get to that point.

Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on February 22, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
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Whats the best paint/laquer/varnish or whatever I can get in a spraycan that'll give an unfinished deck that factory fresh shine?
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Is it called "Clear coat" or is that just the name that people give it?

That is what I have always thought it was, but there might be other brands that just list it as "clear" in the paint range.

As to specific brands, I don't really know about there in USA, but some of the higher end paint brands might give you a better product than the cheap $2 shop cans.

I recall anything with a matt finish doesn't slide as well as a gloss finish, but anything sprayed too thickly will also tend to not slide as well.

Sorry that pic is probably huge.


(https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/dw/image/v2/BBRV_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-srg-internal-master-catalog/default/dwe3ef18dc/images/342260/SCA_342260_hi-res.jpg)

Acrylic stays clear, poly turns yellow.  Gloss looks more pro, but hides fewer flaws.  Satin's ok, matte is played out, imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 22, 2022, 10:56:17 AM
Is Drehobl done getting pro boards?

Very underrated skateboarder.
I wish they still made his wide (for the time), but short board shape from the beginning of Krooked.
Also, the graphics in the beginning of Krooked were really good. At the time I was just like ‘sick this sheffey gest board is my size’.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: VCR on February 22, 2022, 03:03:51 PM
The beginning of Krooked also had Lutzka, hahaha
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Post by: Woodshop on February 22, 2022, 03:27:47 PM
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Is Drehobl done getting pro boards?
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Very underrated skateboarder.
I wish they still made his wide (for the time), but short board shape from the beginning of Krooked.
Also, the graphics in the beginning of Krooked were really good. At the time I was just like ‘sick this sheffey gest board is my size’.


There is supposed to be another one in the next drop.

The 9.25 with double drilled wheelbase, same as his previous ones.

Not sure how many will be around though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: VCR on February 22, 2022, 03:41:47 PM
Dope, I'll keep my eyes peeled for one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 22, 2022, 05:53:27 PM
What magic does it take to get an avatar? Tried but I guess I’m to stupid.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on February 23, 2022, 08:38:06 AM
What magic does it take to get an avatar? Tried but I guess I’m to stupid.
only way that worked for me was through the URL option, and i think even then theres a size limit.
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on February 23, 2022, 08:47:59 AM
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What magic does it take to get an avatar? Tried but I guess I’m to stupid.
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only way that worked for me was through the URL option, and i think even then theres a size limit.

Yeah, same, hosted it on Imgur, otherwise, it doesn't work.
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Post by: SaySo on February 23, 2022, 09:02:03 AM
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What magic does it take to get an avatar? Tried but I guess I’m to stupid.
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only way that worked for me was through the URL option, and i think even then theres a size limit.
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Yeah, same, hosted it on Imgur, otherwise, it doesn't work.

Yep. Same here. Went for the longest time sans avatar, but then finally got around to hosting/uploading one on Imgur.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 23, 2022, 11:13:50 AM
The beginning of Krooked also had Lutzka, hahaha

Great point. Ha. Fuck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 24, 2022, 02:58:58 PM
When people refer to "support" and "stability" in a shoe, what exactly are they referring to?

When I say support, I'm usually talking about padding, and how protected my feet feel in the shoe in ways other than cushion/impact protection, as well as how structured the shoe feels (so not a super floppy vulc).

When I say stability, I'm usually talking about how secure my foot feels in the shoe, and how protected I feel from ankle rolls  as a result of a structured shoe with a wide base. But also how structured the shoe feels. If its really floppy, then usually its not too stable, though there may be exceptions.

Seems like these terms aren't really well defined and people refer to different things when mentioning support and stability.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 24, 2022, 03:31:59 PM
When people refer to "support" and "stability" in a shoe, what exactly are they referring to?

When I say support, I'm usually talking about padding, and how protected my feet feel in the shoe in ways other than cushion/impact protection, as well as how structured the shoe feels (so not a super floppy vulc).

When I say stability, I'm usually talking about how secure my foot feels in the shoe, and how protected I feel from ankle rolls  as a result of a structured shoe with a wide base. But also how structured the shoe feels. If its really floppy, then usually its not too stable, though there may be exceptions.

Seems like these terms aren't really well defined and people refer to different things when mentioning support and stability.

I skate Last Resort AB now, so I don't know what either of those words mean anymore...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on February 24, 2022, 07:46:34 PM
Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 24, 2022, 08:22:01 PM
Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.

I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 25, 2022, 12:04:20 AM
When people refer to "support" and "stability" in a shoe, what exactly are they referring to?

When I say support, I'm usually talking about padding, and how protected my feet feel in the shoe in ways other than cushion/impact protection, as well as how structured the shoe feels (so not a super floppy vulc).

When I say stability, I'm usually talking about how secure my foot feels in the shoe, and how protected I feel from ankle rolls  as a result of a structured shoe with a wide base. But also how structured the shoe feels. If its really floppy, then usually its not too stable, though there may be exceptions.

Seems like these terms aren't really well defined and people refer to different things when mentioning support and stability.
For me I'd say support =stiffness/tightness. Like your foot won't wiggle around inside the shoe and doesn't feel like there's an air pocket under the arch. And the sole feels stiff like if you land promo your foot won't just bend in half.

Stability= you feel kinda sunk in and if you turn your foot a bit it doesn't feel like the shoe will just flop over and break your ankle. Basically the opposite of a lot of cupsoles where your heel is up On-top of the sole. (Which kinda defeats the purpose of a cupsole) worst offenders all those foam midsole shoes that filled the shoe wall from 2002-2006. Sort of like a Cortez.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 25, 2022, 12:18:31 AM
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When people refer to "support" and "stability" in a shoe, what exactly are they referring to?

When I say support, I'm usually talking about padding, and how protected my feet feel in the shoe in ways other than cushion/impact protection, as well as how structured the shoe feels (so not a super floppy vulc).

When I say stability, I'm usually talking about how secure my foot feels in the shoe, and how protected I feel from ankle rolls  as a result of a structured shoe with a wide base. But also how structured the shoe feels. If its really floppy, then usually its not too stable, though there may be exceptions.

Seems like these terms aren't really well defined and people refer to different things when mentioning support and stability.
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For me I'd say support =stiffness/tightness. Like your foot won't wiggle around inside the shoe and doesn't feel like there's an air pocket under the arch. And the sole feels stiff like if you land promo your foot won't just bend in half.

Stability= you feel kinda sunk in and if you turn your foot a bit it doesn't feel like the shoe will just flop over and break your ankle. Basically the opposite of a lot of cupsoles where your heel is up On-top of the sole. (Which kinda defeats the purpose of a cupsole) worst offenders all those foam midsole shoes that filled the shoe wall from 2002-2006. Sort of like a Cortez.

Nice, at least it seems the two of us are on the same page. Though I feel like shoes can be supportive even if they're not super stiff, at least like thin and flexible in the forefoot but structured in the mid/back section.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on February 25, 2022, 06:52:56 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more

Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on February 26, 2022, 09:01:17 PM
Anyone ever skated a "new" deck that's been lying around the house for years?

I've got a Polar that I bought as a wall hanger, five or maybe six years ago. It spent some time on my wall but now lives in a box for various reasons. Doesn't appear to show any signs of warping or anything.

Thinking about skating it because I have too much shit in my house.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 26, 2022, 10:17:21 PM
Anyone ever skated a "new" deck that's been lying around the house for years?

I've got a Polar that I bought as a wall hanger, five or maybe six years ago. It spent some time on my wall but now lives in a box for various reasons. Doesn't appear to show any signs of warping or anything.

Thinking about skating it because I have too much shit in my house.


Yes and I had no issues at all with boards up to ten years old, some maybe even older, same BBS wood and all still feel great.

Give it a flex with your hands on the kicks and board over your knee and feel if when you stand on the back of it (graphic up, stand in the middle) if it holds your weight or bounces, it will still skate like new.

As long as it hasn't been in super hot conditions or as you said, not warped, then there should be no problems.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on February 26, 2022, 11:36:28 PM
^^^^ Awesome, thanks for the tip. I'm gonna give it a go.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2022, 07:17:39 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.

If I’m skating something ‘my size’ (8” and under), weight doesn’t matter. 5.0 venture lo’s, weigh more than titanium indy 159s. Trippy.
When the setup gets larger, I super notice the weight. I don’t know if it’s weight or size/leverage angles? That make skating a larger (normal) sized setup difficult for me.
Now I’m looking at titanium Indy’s, even tho I’m not really an indy person. Great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 27, 2022, 08:00:50 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.

I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2022, 08:08:08 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
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I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.

But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 27, 2022, 08:21:19 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
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I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
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But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.

I can’t say that lighter trucks “unlock” tricks for me (I can’t consistently tre on any set up) but I ride 8.5 or up and having the Lighter trucks does make my board feel better and it feels like my flick on kickflips and heelflips is quicker/more consistent. I also feel like I can pull my board up onto higher ledges or manual pads easier.

Maybe it’s just a placebo effect and my brain is tricking me, but feeling better does lead to skating better so for me it’s worth it.
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Post by: manysnakes on February 27, 2022, 08:49:16 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
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I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
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But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2022, 09:28:51 AM
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
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I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
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But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.

Ah. That’s a good explanation.
I haven’t been able to figure out if lighter setups would help me land more stuff.
I am also really odd, if that wasn’t apparent, in that forged baseplates can bother me, based off of how they sound and feel. I’d get over not liking the feel of forged/hollow trucks if that meant that I could land on my board.
I wonder if the lightness helps you skate for longer? If I’m skating flat, on a big board, it is hard to make the session last that long.
All of this is super wack, on my part. Almost all of my setup bs boils down to: wanting to be able to skate a board for transportation (big wheels) that I can also skate flatground on. And being a lazy pos that’s trying to ‘hack’ their way to being 20 years younger.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 27, 2022, 09:30:28 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
[close]

I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
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But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.

Titanium trucks are awesome but if you’re not looking to spend that level of dough then a forged hollow option is more than adequate of a difference. Often times you’ll only pay $5-$10 dollars more for the forged hollow option.
In terms of “unlocking “ it does reduce effort as stated before which makes me feel less sore after a session.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 27, 2022, 10:09:25 AM
Honestly I have ti hollow Indy’s and am not sure I like them. I didn’t know they were ti when I bought them. I like the lower height which is why I usually go forged plates, but these are silly light. On some things I feel there is a bit less of the board sucking up to the feet.

In reality it’s only a handful of grams so I dunno how it could matter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 27, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
[close]

Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
[close]

I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
[close]

But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
[close]

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.
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Titanium trucks are awesome but if you’re not looking to spend that level of dough then a forged hollow option is more than adequate of a difference. Often times you’ll only pay $5-$10 dollars more for the forged hollow option.
In terms of “unlocking “ it does reduce effort as stated before which makes me feel less sore after a session.

Yeah, the forged hollow trucks are only a few bucks more than regular trucks and are usually within a few grams of titanium trucks. Best deal, for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on February 27, 2022, 11:37:15 AM
If you don't mind waiting a bit and tracking sales, I think the best place to get Ti Indys (or anything expensive that is regularly produced) is skate warehouse. Periodically they do the 20% off gift card deal, and if you use that in combination with one of their other sales, you can get like 40-50% off retail price, even more if it's a sale item, like say the Pilz egg that ends up being under 25 bucks. I have used that combo to stock up on all the gear I regularly rotate through, and generally only pay full price for decks or items that have a limited availability and I can't find a sale for.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2022, 12:03:21 PM
Honestly I have ti hollow Indy’s and am not sure I like them. I didn’t know they were ti when I bought them. I like the lower height which is why I usually go forged plates, but these are silly light. On some things I feel there is a bit less of the board sucking up to the feet.

In reality it’s only a handful of grams so I dunno how it could matter.

Yeah, I agree with this too. I have hollow light 147s and those are light, possibly too light.
Having trucks that are 8.75” wide (indy ti’s), that weigh then same as my beloved 5.0 lo’s, does seem appealing tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on February 27, 2022, 12:34:02 PM
I prefer a heavier setup lately. Aka. wide 56+ wheels and standard trucks.
Been down the Ti Road, but it felt kinda soulless, almost like cheating and even less controlled.
The feel is much better when you're forced to do your tricks "proper", imo.
I'm not a tech skater by any means, though...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on February 27, 2022, 03:56:48 PM
Anyone skated the emerica temple?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on February 27, 2022, 06:17:41 PM
Not really a question, I wondered if Bryte was still trying to be a thing.
They're still doing the private instagram and only have 23k followers, they haven't done anything since that cider collabo and I was happy to see they still have 27 left in stock of Leandre's signed bloard.

https://bryteskateboards.com/products/le-andre-sanders-baby-goat-special-edition?variant=37795621437623
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pdknox on February 27, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
What do people mean when they say “open your shoulders up”?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on February 27, 2022, 07:27:17 PM
What do people mean when they say “open your shoulders up”?
Turn your shoulders to the left if you’re regular. To the right you’re goofy.

Your shoulders are no longer inline  with the direction with the nose and tail of your board, they are opening up to the way you are facing.

It’s all about where you’re looking and where you’re going next 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on February 27, 2022, 08:24:00 PM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
[close]

Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
[close]

I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
[close]

But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
[close]

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.
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Ah. That’s a good explanation.
I haven’t been able to figure out if lighter setups would help me land more stuff.
I am also really odd, if that wasn’t apparent, in that forged baseplates can bother me, based off of how they sound and feel. I’d get over not liking the feel of forged/hollow trucks if that meant that I could land on my board.
I wonder if the lightness helps you skate for longer? If I’m skating flat, on a big board, it is hard to make the session last that long.
All of this is super wack, on my part. Almost all of my setup bs boils down to: wanting to be able to skate a board for transportation (big wheels) that I can also skate flatground on. And being a lazy pos that’s trying to ‘hack’ their way to being 20 years younger.
@ok imo it’s noticeable to skate a lighter truck. I tried out ACE for roughly a year before switching back to Thunders. Flip tricks have always been one of my favorite things to do. The heavier trucks made it harder and more frustrating to try and learn/relearn flip tricks. The flip tricks I could do took a lot of effort. From the knees down I had less aches after switching back. If you go from the extreme of an Indy 149 to a Thunder Titanium Light 149 then you’re shaving off 6ish ounces from your board. Every little bit helps. For the record I went UP to an 8.25 and 56’s on my regular setup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 27, 2022, 08:38:42 PM
On 8.125 and smaller - I'd opt for the standard or hollow kingpin model. On 8.25 and up - I'd go for the lightest truck I have in my stash, not Maglight / Thunder TI but hollow kingpin + axle at least.

On a lighter truck setup I did find myself slightly less tired at the end of a 3 hour session yesterday. Went from Royal 144 IKP (353g) to Venture 5.6 TI (around 310g) and getting up the tall ledge took way less effort. I could see myself popping way too high at the other park I skate with much lower obstacles with a heavier truck to even out the height, but I'm not about to have 2 setups lying around.

Can't speak for flips since my I tweaked my ankle a week ago.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2022, 08:55:45 PM
@rocklobster, same same: 8.125” and down I prefer to not have light trucks (this may change because of wanting much larger wheels going forward), and very much wanting lighting trucks on bigger setups, mainly to keep my poor knees and ankles quiet long enough to skate.

@tom yooooo. I’ve always been all over the place with trying different trucks. Some of my very best sessions ever were on thunders. At this point I’m barely hanging on to some flatground stuff, and that’s sadly the whole repertoire. Thunders give me my best kickflip. I also like the weight. I have a helluva time skating thunders with wheels over 52. I’ve always paid attention to your setups as they look dope, and have also often been in the 8” range which I appreciated as most folks have moved up and up in size. Kickflips on wider boards are great, anything rotational, for me, is trash on larger setups. What’s the secret to getting thunders and 56s to work!??
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on February 27, 2022, 09:50:28 PM
I just buy the 90du Thunder replacement bushings and call it a day. The stock bushings are too stiff for me. No risers either. I’m on the heavier side compared to most other street skaters. I can’t comfortably roll and setup for tricks if my trucks are too tight; sometimes my body wants to go in one direction while my board wants to go in the other direction. I get some wheelbite for the first few sessions, but I have a weird flatground routine that helps me work through it. It’s pop shuv, front shuv, pop shuv, then switch it around. I swear it works(at least for me)


I’m skating standard Thunders right now. I have some Hollow Lights on deck for whenever these get too axled. Almost pulled the trigger and got some of the titanium 148’s earlier today, but I realistically don’t need them for another year or so. They can wait
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 27, 2022, 09:52:27 PM
I’m skating standard Thunders right now. I have some Hollow Lights on deck for whenever these get too axled. Almost pulled the trigger and got some of the titanium 148’s earlier today, but I realistically don’t need them for another year or so. They can wait

Can they though? What if there is a global titanium shortage, again!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on February 28, 2022, 01:30:55 AM
Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 28, 2022, 03:15:46 AM
Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.


Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 28, 2022, 11:37:25 AM
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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 28, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
Is there any pro that has more no push lines in parts than Bobby Worrest? He has to be number 1.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on February 28, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
[close]


Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 28, 2022, 03:58:42 PM
I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: CannerSpaghetti on February 28, 2022, 04:07:51 PM
I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)

No one skates street anymore and coping doesn't make your trucks splinter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 28, 2022, 04:12:11 PM
I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
i've never experienced these metal splinters, but i don't skate the crusty pools that a lot of you do. curbs, yes, but no completely raw concrete. maybe tonight i'll get an intense mallgrab session in to see if your point is valid.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 28, 2022, 04:34:33 PM
I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)

Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit

Never gotten metal splinters from it, just some wax. It's a better way to hold the board if you're not about to get back on. Holding the nose/tail rips up my fucking thumb.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on February 28, 2022, 05:04:10 PM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
[close]


Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
[close]
Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!

That Kalis deck is my grail board. It's from the Ready Ranger Series.
I changed the colors around but yeah that graphic has left a mark on me to be sure
(https://i.ibb.co/30cgDgv/IMG-20210819-191641-124.webp) (https://ibb.co/30cgDgv)

I also had that same AVE board hung on my wall as a kid but it's long lost
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 28, 2022, 05:53:41 PM
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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i've never experienced these metal splinters, but i don't skate the crusty pools that a lot of you do. curbs, yes, but no completely raw concrete. maybe tonight i'll get an intense mallgrab session in to see if your point is valid.


I feel like curbs are pretty good at eating trucks, but these responses are interesting to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on February 28, 2022, 07:37:15 PM
can you avoid axle slip if you use spacers between the bearings ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 01, 2022, 01:25:40 AM

That Kalis deck is my grail board. It's from the Ready Ranger Series.
I changed the colors around but yeah that graphic has left a mark on me to be sure
(https://i.ibb.co/30cgDgv/IMG-20210819-191641-124.webp) (https://ibb.co/30cgDgv)

I also had that same AVE board hung on my wall as a kid but it's long lost
That tatoo is so sick!

I realize that this cat head represents so much to me, it's completly crazy.

Ready Rangers Series as mentioned in the catalag, exactly, and 6 ply.

https://archive.org/details/alien-workshop-99-00/page/n1/mode/2up

I loved that board so much. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2022, 05:36:20 AM
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That Kalis deck is my grail board. It's from the Ready Ranger Series.
I changed the colors around but yeah that graphic has left a mark on me to be sure
(https://i.ibb.co/30cgDgv/IMG-20210819-191641-124.webp) (https://ibb.co/30cgDgv)

I also had that same AVE board hung on my wall as a kid but it's long lost
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That tatoo is so sick!

I realize that this cat head represents so much to me, it's completly crazy.

Ready Rangers Series as mentioned in the catalag, exactly, and 6 ply.

https://archive.org/details/alien-workshop-99-00/page/n1/mode/2up

I loved that board so much.

Wow that was a rad catalog, 6-ply decks?! 4 thin with 2 regular seems like a recipe for disaster. What a time to be alive!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 01, 2022, 05:44:18 AM
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit

It’s feel like “mall grabbing” is a psyop developed at Langley in order to see just how stupid a thing skateboarders will pretend to care about. It’s not some organic rejection due to years of experience (because it’s a perfectly functional way to hold your skateboard); it’s just some shit someone made up.

Try to explain the “mall grab” to any normal, well-adjusted person and watch in real time as their opinion of you as a person drops. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on March 01, 2022, 05:57:31 AM
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit
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It’s feel like “mall grabbing” is a psyop developed at Langley in order to see just how stupid a thing skateboarders will pretend to care about. It’s not some organic rejection due to years of experience (because it’s a perfectly functional way to hold your skateboard); it’s just some shit someone made up.

Try to explain the “mall grab” to any normal, well-adjusted person and watch in real time as their opinion of you as a person drops.



I mean yeah, okay, but forget about the reputation for a minute. Unless your trucks don't get much use, it's a bad idea to hold them like that cuz small shavings/splinters can get into your hands. Apparently nobody else has dealt with this?


That's my question. I don't really care if it's cool or uncool.
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Post by: manysnakes on March 01, 2022, 06:06:00 AM
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit
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It’s feel like “mall grabbing” is a psyop developed at Langley in order to see just how stupid a thing skateboarders will pretend to care about. It’s not some organic rejection due to years of experience (because it’s a perfectly functional way to hold your skateboard); it’s just some shit someone made up.

Try to explain the “mall grab” to any normal, well-adjusted person and watch in real time as their opinion of you as a person drops.
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I mean yeah, okay, but forget about the reputation for a minute. Unless your trucks don't get much use, it's a bad idea to hold them like that cuz small shavings/splinters can get into your hands. Apparently nobody else has dealt with this?


That's my question. I don't really care if it's cool or uncool.

Skateboard trucks are not typically made from the kinds of aluminum which sheer and splinter, so no, that has never happened to me. There are usually some mildly sharp edges and the an occasional high spot if I’ve been grinding angle iron a lot, but that’s a very infrequent occurrence. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pdknox on March 01, 2022, 06:13:44 AM
not all of us have soft pink fleshy hands.  some of us here work with our hands, ya' know?  I mean, I dont, but im sure someone here does
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit
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It’s feel like “mall grabbing” is a psyop developed at Langley in order to see just how stupid a thing skateboarders will pretend to care about. It’s not some organic rejection due to years of experience (because it’s a perfectly functional way to hold your skateboard); it’s just some shit someone made up.

Try to explain the “mall grab” to any normal, well-adjusted person and watch in real time as their opinion of you as a person drops.
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I mean yeah, okay, but forget about the reputation for a minute. Unless your trucks don't get much use, it's a bad idea to hold them like that cuz small shavings/splinters can get into your hands. Apparently nobody else has dealt with this?


That's my question. I don't really care if it's cool or uncool.
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Skateboard trucks are not typically made from the kinds of aluminum which sheer and splinter, so no, that has never happened to me. There are usually some mildly sharp edges and the an occasional high spot if I’ve been grinding angle iron a lot, but that’s a very infrequent occurrence.


This is really interesting. I said it earlier, but I've had it happen to me multiple times just from grabbing my board out of the trunk or whatever. I want to say I've had it happen with multiple truck brands, but I don't switch very often so I can't remember for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2022, 08:02:32 AM
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I have a weird question about mallgrabbing lol.



So, the general consensus with mallgrabbing is that it doesn't look very cool, but I hear that reason cited pretty often as a case of "gatekeeping".


But like, is it not common knowledge that mallgrabbing will give you metal splinters? I always figured that was the actual reason people don't mallgrab but anytime I mention it people look at me like I'm crazy. I've gotten them just from grabbing my board out of my trunk for a second and they're such a bitch to get out of your fingers. Growing up I never mallgrabbed for that reason, not because it wasn't "cool". (I didn't even know that for my first few years skating anyway.)
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Mall grabbing is hated on because of regular internet hivemind shit
[close]

It’s feel like “mall grabbing” is a psyop developed at Langley in order to see just how stupid a thing skateboarders will pretend to care about. It’s not some organic rejection due to years of experience (because it’s a perfectly functional way to hold your skateboard); it’s just some shit someone made up.

Try to explain the “mall grab” to any normal, well-adjusted person and watch in real time as their opinion of you as a person drops.
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I mean yeah, okay, but forget about the reputation for a minute. Unless your trucks don't get much use, it's a bad idea to hold them like that cuz small shavings/splinters can get into your hands. Apparently nobody else has dealt with this?


That's my question. I don't really care if it's cool or uncool.
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Skateboard trucks are not typically made from the kinds of aluminum which sheer and splinter, so no, that has never happened to me. There are usually some mildly sharp edges and the an occasional high spot if I’ve been grinding angle iron a lot, but that’s a very infrequent occurrence.
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This is really interesting. I said it earlier, but I've had it happen to me multiple times just from grabbing my board out of the trunk or whatever. I want to say I've had it happen with multiple truck brands, but I don't switch very often so I can't remember for sure.

Definitely had the metal splinters on my palms and fingers when mall grabbing, happens most to my baseplate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 01, 2022, 08:43:25 AM
I've never heard anybody explain why it's not okay to mall grab either, but I assumed that it's because trucks are dirty and possibly sharp. Definitely had metal splinters, but not very often.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 01, 2022, 10:17:23 AM
I think the why is non existent. Like when you started high school and there were all these new rules for things you couldn't do or you'd be mocked.
I'll admit I mall grabbed early on but for me it was pure defence. Where I lived there were all these little alleyway/alcove things and the way shitheads would try rob you is just jump out circle you like hyenas and rip all your shit off you. Mallgrabbing made it easier to keep hold of a board and you can even prod and swing it around at people.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 01, 2022, 10:40:52 AM
Has anybody seen thunder or venture titaniums in europe? I'm really happy with the new royals but I've still been waiting for years now and absolutely need another pair of thunder tits. Why can't they come back to me?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 06:06:23 AM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
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Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
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Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!


I feel like I have seen the AWS Vampire board, maybe on a Boards on the Wall thread or something similar.

Try this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=17783.1650



@DISTANT RUMOURS might have had that one.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on March 02, 2022, 07:33:42 AM
I've never heard anybody explain why it's not okay to mall grab either, but I assumed that it's because trucks are dirty and possibly sharp. Definitely had metal splinters, but not very often.

I don't hate on anyone who does mall grab but i've gotten plenty of metal splinters myself I think it depends on what you're skating. My Box makes very sharp cuts into my trucks. I actually noticed less issues on concrete ledges/curbs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on March 02, 2022, 11:03:46 AM
(https://www.tactics.com/a/ddk3/9/heritage-gino-bel-paese-8375-skateboard-deck.jpg)

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 02, 2022, 01:05:52 PM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
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Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
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Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!
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I feel like I have seen the AWS Vampire board, maybe on a Boards on the Wall thread or something similar.

Try this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=17783.1650



@DISTANT RUMOURS might have had that one.
Doesn't found it...

Thanks anyway!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: dustyassrocketswitchv on March 02, 2022, 02:03:15 PM
Are SML wheels legit? Do they hold up like a spitfire or bones type shit?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2022, 05:10:06 PM
Are SML wheels legit? Do they hold up like a spitfire or bones type shit?

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Every time I think of migrating to another brand from F4 it’s like I cant quit an addiction. I mostly skate smooth ground but not parks. Is there any reason to fuck with Dialtone or Loophole? Their shapes seem reasonably close to Spit but I like the smaller brand vibe and their teams.
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This is basically the reason I skate dialtones. I mean I think they're good wheels too, but from a pure performance standpoint they don't offer anything that you can't get from an F4. I've got dialtones, loopholes, and F4s that I rotate in and out depending on how they treat me on a particular setup. 

After all, variety is the spice of life.
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SML (which are from Creative, same as Dialtone) are good wheels, a solid 7.5/10 with Spitfire being a 10/10. You can do far worse than wheels from Creative.

To me it's about the price point, if I can get the Dialtone / SML for under $25, I'm biting and just having fun with them. They are great under $25, but if I were paying MSRP I'd go with Spitfire or Bones.

Posted about them in the wheels thread.

Was able to get some flatspots on the SML wheels I rode those out within the session. All about managing the expectations at the pricepoint.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: dustyassrocketswitchv on March 02, 2022, 05:51:42 PM
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Are SML wheels legit? Do they hold up like a spitfire or bones type shit?
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Every time I think of migrating to another brand from F4 it’s like I cant quit an addiction. I mostly skate smooth ground but not parks. Is there any reason to fuck with Dialtone or Loophole? Their shapes seem reasonably close to Spit but I like the smaller brand vibe and their teams.

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This is basically the reason I skate dialtones. I mean I think they're good wheels too, but from a pure performance standpoint they don't offer anything that you can't get from an F4. I've got dialtones, loopholes, and F4s that I rotate in and out depending on how they treat me on a particular setup. 

After all, variety is the spice of life.
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SML (which are from Creative, same as Dialtone) are good wheels, a solid 7.5/10 with Spitfire being a 10/10. You can do far worse than wheels from Creative.

To me it's about the price point, if I can get the Dialtone / SML for under $25, I'm biting and just having fun with them. They are great under $25, but if I were paying MSRP I'd go with Spitfire or Bones.
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Posted about them in the wheels thread.

Was able to get some flatspots on the SML wheels I rode those out within the session. All about managing the expectations at the pricepoint.

Seems reasonable. Spitfires it is
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2022, 06:23:37 PM
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Are SML wheels legit? Do they hold up like a spitfire or bones type shit?
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Every time I think of migrating to another brand from F4 it’s like I cant quit an addiction. I mostly skate smooth ground but not parks. Is there any reason to fuck with Dialtone or Loophole? Their shapes seem reasonably close to Spit but I like the smaller brand vibe and their teams.

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This is basically the reason I skate dialtones. I mean I think they're good wheels too, but from a pure performance standpoint they don't offer anything that you can't get from an F4. I've got dialtones, loopholes, and F4s that I rotate in and out depending on how they treat me on a particular setup. 

After all, variety is the spice of life.
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SML (which are from Creative, same as Dialtone) are good wheels, a solid 7.5/10 with Spitfire being a 10/10. You can do far worse than wheels from Creative.

To me it's about the price point, if I can get the Dialtone / SML for under $25, I'm biting and just having fun with them. They are great under $25, but if I were paying MSRP I'd go with Spitfire or Bones.
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Posted about them in the wheels thread.

Was able to get some flatspots on the SML wheels I rode those out within the session. All about managing the expectations at the pricepoint.
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Seems reasonable. Spitfires it is

Good wheel at $25, great wheel at $20. And it's always good to send a few dollars to a company you back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 02, 2022, 07:01:49 PM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
[close]


Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
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Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!
[close]


I feel like I have seen the AWS Vampire board, maybe on a Boards on the Wall thread or something similar.

Try this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=17783.1650



@DISTANT RUMOURS might have had that one.
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Doesn't found it...

Thanks anyway!
is this the ave you were looking for? there are 2 on art of skateboarding, but one seems to be a jr? the one in this pic is from the chickenwire series i believe?
sorry if you weren't talking about this, but the others in your post
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/3d/85/a23d85e861ecae1864153fc58b924d81.png)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 08:15:39 PM

Doesn't found it...

Thanks anyway!


Do you mean you did find it?

Maybe something you are typing keeps changing, but that "Doesn't" does not make sense.

Not a worry, just checking.

:)

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Post by: Cthunderw on March 02, 2022, 08:54:16 PM
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Do lightweight models of trucks make more or less of a difference at greater widths? I found online that a 129 Indy Hollow weighs 334g while the Standard weighs 377g, so about 11% weight savings, but what about at the larger sizes? I haven't seen those weights available.
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I feel with larger sizes you notice the benefits more
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Well, 11% of more is more, but the the question is whether it will make a perceptible difference in a setup? I’m gonna say since hardware weight - bearings, bolts, bushings, bearings -is fixed, the lightweights might bring a bigger setup into a more normal weight range.
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I have Indy titanium 159s and I always forget how great these trucks are until I skate regular 159s and feel how heavy and clunky they are. You absolutely can notice the difference between the lightweight and heavier trucks at the larger end of truck sizes, where the more material starts to represent a larger and larger percentage of the overall weight.

I’m not sure I’ll buy another pair (I got these slightly used for $40, and I would never pay retail), but if you don’t mind the cost, it’s an appreciably better trucks imo.
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But does it ‘unlock’ anything or just ‘feel’ better?
Riding a big board is fun and all, until the ligaments in the backs of my knees, ligaments in ankles, and hips get sore as hell trying to flop the boat around. Most of this is due to me being an old, out of shape person, that skated sporadically.
All I’m saying is do you notice any actual, ahem, performance benefits? Like can you tre with the lights, but not the regulars? Cuz if that’s the case, I’ll pay double fucking retail.
It’s easy to not care, when you can’t see the finish line.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding, but while my pop is a little higher and my flick is a little easier, I don’t feel that they will “unlock” anything in the sense of making one a better skater. They enhance my enjoyment a bit by letting me throw my board with a little less effort. That’s the advantage they offer.
Oh I wasn't asking in terms of performance or anything like that, just strictly the comparative weight differences between sizes.  I personally imagine that if there are 3 components which can have weight savings (axels, kingpins, baseplates), the only change in total grams of weight savings will be in the slight differences in axel length, because the kingpins and baseplates will remain the same from size to size. So I would think that the Indy 159 hollows are less than 11% lighter than the 159 standards.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 02, 2022, 11:45:43 PM
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Doesn't found it...

Thanks anyway!
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Do you mean you did find it?

Maybe something you are typing keeps changing, but that "Doesn't" does not make sense.

Not a worry, just checking.

:)
I DIDN'T found it.

Sorry!

is this the ave you were looking for? there are 2 on art of skateboarding, but one seems to be a jr? the one in this pic is from the chickenwire series i believe?
sorry if you weren't talking about this, but the others in your post
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/3d/85/a23d85e861ecae1864153fc58b924d81.png)
No it's not!

The board i'm looking for looked much more like the Dill Cateye one at the top left of this picture (so maybe from the same series?) :

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/68eb73c5da0a3229834cf5cc464f6f41/tumblr_nfbx6flkGG1tp4km3o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 03, 2022, 03:35:19 AM

Gino Bel Paese deck

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw


I had a bit of a look around, but there is not that much to go on.


https://dwindle.com/heritage


Just going by Art of Skateboarding, I could guess a fair bit from when boards were shown and then when Gino had boards on certain companies as well.

The company started in 1991 (with big wide boards) and lasted until around 1996, so that should narrow it down a bit.

Gino was on Black Label up to and including 1993, so between 1993 and 1996 is your answer, so that should help a bit.


This came up more so in a search that included 1994, so that might be the year, but there was no other info when I tried to go to it to check.

Original size 7.5 x 31.7 with 14.0 wheelbase

https://skatenewswire.com/gino-iannucci-101-reissue/


(https://skatenewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/gino-iannucci-101-reissue-1.jpg)


Here too:

https://www.oldskullskateboards.com/pre-order-101-gino-iannucci-bel-paese-screened-reissue-deck-7-50/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disappointed on March 03, 2022, 04:16:21 AM
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Hi!

Is there a kind of "What was this board?" thread around here?

I had a couple of boards when I was young that I would really like to see again maybe with some specs.
[close]


Some people start a new thread for things like that, but you can easily add to this one and might get more views too.

Boards are always fun to look up, but sometimes hard if you didn't know the exact graphic name or wording that makes them come up easily.

Might be harder to get hold of info on older boards, but worth a try anyway.
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Yes, fun but not as easy. :)

Today I finaly found one of the board I was looking for in an AWS 1999-2000 catalog hidden on the web. The blue/orange/white Kalis "Cat" model appearing at the beginning of the Stevie Williams part of The reason. 7.625x31.5 (unknown WB). Probably the board I enjoyed the most as a kid. Pretty happy for that.

I does'nt found the second one, a black and white AWS AVE promodel with a vampire on it. From 2001-2003 I think.

Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think.

Some pieces of my childhood skate life!

This??

https://imgbb.com/GPVcKyQ
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 03, 2022, 04:24:17 AM

There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 03, 2022, 06:09:19 AM
@disappointed nope...


There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.
Really amazing yeah. Reminded me all those so wonderful AWS graphics.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 03, 2022, 07:10:03 AM
@disappointed nope...

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There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.
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Really amazing yeah. Reminded me all those so wonderful AWS graphics.

looks like AWS had a "Creeps" series, AVE got two with this one being the more vampire-ish one. this is from 2001 on their site via the internet archive

(https://web.archive.org/web/20011226184307im_/http://alienworkshop.com/decks/cr2ave.gif)
&
here's the other one for good measure
(https://web.archive.org/web/20010618153815im_/http://www.alienworkshop.com/decks/creave.jpg)

i won't post anymore guesses after these lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 03, 2022, 07:26:59 AM
(https://web.archive.org/web/20011226184307im_/http://alienworkshop.com/decks/cr2ave.gif)
It was this one! Wonderdul!

Thank you so much!

Is there any further informations about the size or the construction? Or can you just simply leave a link?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 03, 2022, 07:39:27 AM

Someone could spend some serious time looking through all those decks.

Shows about 245 files in the deck pics folder:


https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://alienworkshop.com/decks/*




That specific deck was up for sale too - $850 is a bit much for me, but it went unsold:


https://picclick.com/Nos-2001-Alien-Workshop-Ave-Creeps-2-Skateboard-192808927828.html

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 03, 2022, 07:46:19 AM
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It was this one! Wonderdul!

Thank you so much!

Is there any further informations about the size or the construction? Or can you just simply leave a link?

rad, glad to help! here's the page i nabbed it from, which lists specs as
Ultralite
Creeps 2
Series
31 x 7.5

https://web.archive.org/web/20011005082418/http://www.alienworkshop.com/aved.html


Someone could spend some serious time looking through all those decks.

Shows about 245 files in the deck pics folder:


https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://alienworkshop.com/decks/*




That specific deck was up for sale too - $850 is a bit much for me, but it went unsold:


https://picclick.com/Nos-2001-Alien-Workshop-Ave-Creeps-2-Skateboard-192808927828.html



damn, might be easier to just dl and rehost them in a gdrive or something just so there's a better view than links. i went the slightly more tedious route of clicking through old flash/html pages lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 03, 2022, 07:58:52 AM

damn, might be easier to just dl and rehost them in a gdrive or something just so there's a better view than links. i went the slightly more tedious route of clicking through old flash/html pages lol


I think I was a bit keen, as when I went to look, they are just statistics on how often those files were updated.

Still there were a ton of boards put out around that period, AWS at the peak of that time maybe?


Already looking through the site from your link and seeing so much amazing stuff I had completely forgotten about.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 03, 2022, 09:32:56 AM
It's so weird how much better the old AWS decks look than Darkroom stuff.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 03, 2022, 09:35:37 AM
It's so weird how much better the old AWS decks look than Darkroom stuff.

Took the words right out of my mouth, the last series he did that I enjoyed was the Primitive Collab.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 03, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
Are AWS and habitat the exact same shapes?

Any other brand with this exact shape?



Also shoe questions: do you like to skate superstars and / or half cabs or does it feel weird to you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on March 03, 2022, 01:53:24 PM
Best coping alternatives on a portable quarter pipe? Steel is expensive and heavy as hell, PVC is deadly slick, beer can coping would be cool but probably heavier than the steel. It's only going to be 4'-6' wide so it doesn't even need to grind or slide really, just want to lock in on stalls
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 03, 2022, 05:59:32 PM
Are AWS and habitat the exact same shapes?

Any other brand with this exact shape?



Also shoe questions: do you like to skate superstars and / or half cabs or does it feel weird to you?


I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now.  From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.

The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.

Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that.  They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.


Half Cabs all the way for me, but I also have a lot of different options in Vans shoes.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 03, 2022, 06:06:00 PM
Best coping alternatives on a portable quarter pipe? Steel is expensive and heavy as hell, PVC is deadly slick, beer can coping would be cool but probably heavier than the steel. It's only going to be 4'-6' wide so it doesn't even need to grind or slide really, just want to lock in on stalls


I feel like normal steel coping is still the best overall for price, weight and convenience.

The same as street sign poles here, and came in lengths of up to 6m which were easy enough to cut down to the right size.

When I was growing up a lot of the local ramps would be made with "found" coping, be it fencing materials, sign posts or something similar, but the last one I built was bought and I didn't think it was that expensive from a fencing wholesale place, the 50mm pipe.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on March 03, 2022, 08:10:58 PM
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Best coping alternatives on a portable quarter pipe? Steel is expensive and heavy as hell, PVC is deadly slick, beer can coping would be cool but probably heavier than the steel. It's only going to be 4'-6' wide so it doesn't even need to grind or slide really, just want to lock in on stalls
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I feel like normal steel coping is still the best overall for price, weight and convenience.

The same as street sign poles here, and came in lengths of up to 6m which were easy enough to cut down to the right size.

When I was growing up a lot of the local ramps would be made with "found" coping, be it fencing materials, sign posts or something similar, but the last one I built was bought and I didn't think it was that expensive from a fencing wholesale place, the 50mm pipe.


I find all of my steel coping in alleyways

Steel will be lighter than the wood you use. 2 3/8" OD (2.375 inch) or 60mm is my favorite

Fill it with spray foam to take some of the ting away
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 03, 2022, 09:48:18 PM
Are there any shapes out there similar/same to the Krooked Zip Zinger?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 03, 2022, 10:09:33 PM
Are there any shapes out there similar/same to the Krooked Zip Zinger?
https://socalskateshop.com/GAndS-KT-4-Squaretail-Re-Issue-Deck-Red-Pre-Gripped-7375x29.html

https://www.tactics.com/alltimers/love-stallion-775-skateboard-deck

https://www.tactics.com/creature/brue-killer-12oz-78-shaped-skateboard-deck


I thought about getting that G&S one myself, but my Zip Zinger is still fine. These are all in the ballpark of being similarly dimensioned


Idk if anyone will be able to answer this question for me and relies on having two very specific boards handy. Is the Tommy Guerrero shape from Real similar to his jump ramp shape that Krooked put out for his guest board? I’ve been wanting another one of those since, uhhh, 2003 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on March 03, 2022, 10:26:10 PM
(https://www.tactics.com/a/ddk3/9/heritage-gino-bel-paese-8375-skateboard-deck.jpg)

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw

Can't find this for sale anywhere?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 03, 2022, 10:34:27 PM
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(https://www.tactics.com/a/ddk3/9/heritage-gino-bel-paese-8375-skateboard-deck.jpg)

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw
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Can't find this for sale anywhere?
https://socalskateshop.com/101-Gino-Iannucci-Bel-Paese-HT-Re-Issue-Skateboard-Deck-8-375x32-1.html#!?cc_decks=121611&c=cc_grip-tape
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 04, 2022, 01:36:08 AM
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Are AWS and habitat the exact same shapes?

Any other brand with this exact shape?



Also shoe questions: do you like to skate superstars and / or half cabs or does it feel weird to you?
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I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now.  From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.

The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.

Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that.  They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.


Half Cabs all the way for me, but I also have a lot of different options in Vans shoes.


Thanks! So I’ll stick to AWS/habitat boards from bbs (the shop I order from always lists the woodshops) and get me some half cabs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on March 04, 2022, 02:12:32 AM
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(https://www.tactics.com/a/ddk3/9/heritage-gino-bel-paese-8375-skateboard-deck.jpg)

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw
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Can't find this for sale anywhere?

if you're looking for the original 7.5 x 31.7 shape - that one hasn't been released yet i think, all i saw was a pre order on old skull skateboards.

the heat transfered 8.375 is available in a few different shops, i can send you some links if you're in europe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 04, 2022, 04:26:19 AM

There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.

Is there some central database with old catalogs? Seems like something worth creating, they exist for a thousand other niche products and interests. A CCS archive would be rad.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 04, 2022, 05:01:35 AM
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It was this one! Wonderdul!

Thank you so much!

Is there any further informations about the size or the construction? Or can you just simply leave a link?
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rad, glad to help! here's the page i nabbed it from, which lists specs as
Ultralite
Creeps 2
Series
31 x 7.5

https://web.archive.org/web/20011005082418/http://www.alienworkshop.com/aved.html
Thanks for that.

I'll take a look at the link when I get the chance.

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There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.
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Is there some central database with old catalogs? Seems like something worth creating, they exist for a thousand other niche products and interests. A CCS archive would be rad.
True!

This job was waiting for you.

Let's go! :D

Seriously, it would be fantastic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 05:09:15 AM
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There really were some crazy out there AWS graphics hey?

It is amazing looking over all those old catalogs.
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Is there some central database with old catalogs? Seems like something worth creating, they exist for a thousand other niche products and interests. A CCS archive would be rad.


I tagged you in the thread for CCS catalogs, but thought it might be easier to link it here too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120195


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 04, 2022, 05:17:43 AM
Please don't forget the Human Skateboards catalogs. :D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 06:19:44 AM
Please don't forget the Human Skateboards catalogs. :D

The crazy thing is there really is almost nothing about them around in searches, but there are still a fair number of their boards on artofskateboarding.com when I checked - only a couple from 1994, some from 1995, some from 1996 and a couple from 1997 when they folded.


This might have something to do with it, although I know nothing about the brand or what happened:


https://skateboarding.fandom.com/wiki/Human_Skateboards


Human Skateboards was a brand from the mid 90's that also distributed Enemy and Farm Skateboards. The team included Andy Macdonald, Laban Pheidias, Adil Dyani and a very young Elyssa Steamer. Human released a video called "Radioactive Throw Up" in late 1996. Apparently Human Skateboards was up to some shady business and ended around mid '97 after months of FBI surveillance


This is an interesting read, for all of the ten seconds Human is mentioned (with an ad pic)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2018/08/14/happened-gershon-mosley/

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Gershon_Mosley_Human_ad.jpg


Going by what you said, this is the most likely:

"Finaly the last missing part of the puzzle, and probably the hardest to find, a Human Skateboards deck, very simple graphics with a handmade chest outline on a white and yellow background, without anything written on it, so not a Gershon model I guess. Pretty sure the top ply was blue with a little black Human logo, but not sure it helps. 98/00 I think."


http://www.artofskateboarding.com/Pg/Deck_pics/human_mosely_robot1_1995bot.jpg




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 04, 2022, 07:15:52 AM
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Are there any shapes out there similar/same to the Krooked Zip Zinger?
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https://socalskateshop.com/GAndS-KT-4-Squaretail-Re-Issue-Deck-Red-Pre-Gripped-7375x29.html

https://www.tactics.com/alltimers/love-stallion-775-skateboard-deck

https://www.tactics.com/creature/brue-killer-12oz-78-shaped-skateboard-deck


I thought about getting that G&S one myself, but my Zip Zinger is still fine. These are all in the ballpark of being similarly dimensioned


Idk if anyone will be able to answer this question for me and relies on having two very specific boards handy. Is the Tommy Guerrero shape from Real similar to his jump ramp shape that Krooked put out for his guest board? I’ve been wanting another one of those since, uhhh, 2003 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5boro regularly has two cruiser shapes I think a 7.6 and an 8 (altho I think the 8 is a little bit more like a standard sized board but cut into a shape)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 04, 2022, 08:24:28 AM
@Woodshop

Yeah I found the Gershon Mosley's interview on Jenken while searching fo this Human board.

Human had the FBI after their ass? Interesting...

As far as I know I've never been chased by any men in black in a black car when I rode that deck, so can't help about that. :D

The board that you found could be the one I'm looking for. I remember a less strange chest and a more yellowish background, but the style of the chest's outline is exactly the same, so maybe my memories aren't so clear, unless there was a series...so much mysteries. :D

Many thanks for that!

EDIT : After looking again, I'm pretty sure it was this board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on March 04, 2022, 03:18:34 PM
Do any airlines still allow a board as a carry on? I've had a complete and a backpack no problem in the past but haven't flown for a while
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 04, 2022, 07:35:15 PM
Do any airlines still allow a board as a carry on? I've had a complete and a backpack no problem in the past but haven't flown for a while

flown a few times recently on american without issue. carried board under arm and then threw it in the overhead bin. saw some other people in the airports (pdx, iah) with boards obv going to other airline gates too. only issue i had was my board got put through the xray twice one time lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 07:55:21 PM
@Woodshop

Yeah I found the Gershon Mosley's interview on Jenken while searching fo this Human board.

Human had the FBI after their ass? Interesting...

As far as I know I've never been chased by any men in black in a black car when I rode that deck, so can't help about that. :D

The board that you found could be the one I'm looking for. I remember a less strange chest and a more yellowish background, but the style of the chest's outline is exactly the same, so maybe my memories aren't so clear, unless there was a series...so much mysteries. :D

Many thanks for that!

EDIT : After looking again, I'm pretty sure it was this board.


Re Wiki and FBI - I probably wouldn't believe everything on there, but who knows.

Memories can be a funny thing though.  So many boards I have looked up from my past just didn't seem like the right ones, but even digging up old photographs I have, they were the boards, it would seem.

I do recall finding an old destroyed 90s board of mine a while back from that era, as well as seeing some new old stock people have had and thinking it was so skinny, so flat and so bad overall, but that is what we all skated.

It is much the same for the 80s boards too, which just seen so weird now in their original form, but I really like the modern concave in the same shapes from 80s boards, so it is just what you are used to and what you know too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on March 04, 2022, 11:11:58 PM
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(https://www.tactics.com/a/ddk3/9/heritage-gino-bel-paese-8375-skateboard-deck.jpg)

when was this board originally released? i can’t find any pictures of the original online and it’s not listed on artofskateboarding.

it’s a 101 gino board btw
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Can't find this for sale anywhere?
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if you're looking for the original 7.5 x 31.7 shape - that one hasn't been released yet i think, all i saw was a pre order on old skull skateboards.

the heat transfered 8.375 is available in a few different shops, i can send you some links if you're in europe

Thanks mate, yep it's the 7.5 I'm after. And yep I'm euro  8)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 05, 2022, 12:03:10 PM
@Woodshop yeah, memories can be a strange thing sometimes. :)

Anyway. Thanks to the pals who helped me with these old stuffs.

Just curious...2 days ago I assembled a set-up and it was the first time I used a blade to cut the griptaoe around the board. Back in the days my homies and I just scratched the outline with an hard tool (or against something made of concrete) until the grip's outline naturaly break, and we just had to pull on and that was finished. I guess we went that way because the owner of our favorite skateshop did it like that, don't remember exactly.

Anyone else use/used this method?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 05, 2022, 01:34:52 PM
In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 05, 2022, 01:48:38 PM
Most of the compression happens vertically so I’d just cut 2mm off the top bushing first then maybe sand the bottom or do what Ishod does and run 2 tops
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 05, 2022, 04:07:29 PM
@Woodshop yeah, memories can be a strange thing sometimes. :)

Anyway. Thanks to the pals who helped me with these old stuffs.

Just curious...2 days ago I assembled a set-up and it was the first time I used a blade to cut the griptaoe around the board. Back in the days my homies and I just scratched the outline with an hard tool (or against something made of concrete) until the grip's outline naturaly break, and we just had to pull on and that was finished. I guess we went that way because the owner of our favorite skateshop did it like that, don't remember exactly.

Anyone else use/used this method?


We used to use a big raw file to do the edges in one place, but compared to just running the side of a screwdriver round and then a razor blade, everything else just seems time consuming and redundant nowdays.

Out at skateparks when people had to set up boards, I recall one guy just using the edge of his baseplate to hack at his grip, which worked for all the older stuff like Jessup but would give him the biggest problems when grip got a lot thicker and needed a blade to actually cut it.

Like a lot of others, I still ride only the normal Jessup and that still works with any method or doing the edge with almost anything, but most other brands nowdays are thicker and need something sharp to cut through it.

Also gripping twenty or more boards in a day at peak skate shop hours (2005 or so) had to be quick and precise, so I know we got really good at just getting the grip on and not even doing the screwdriver line round it, just blade it off and grip scrap to clean up the edge.

We often would have friendly arguments about where the grip should come to, some saying it should go right over the edge and others saying you should always see the top layer of wood on the board, so it was interesting to see the different jobs by different people from the same place.  Regular customers would come back in and you knew who gripped the board by how much top ply or completely covering the edge it was.

I liked to always see top ply stains on my boards.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 05, 2022, 04:18:50 PM
In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.

Most of the compression happens vertically so I’d just cut 2mm off the top bushing first then maybe sand the bottom or do what Ishod does and run 2 tops


Yes, just take a mm or two off the bottom of the top bushings and everything will still work exactly as it should while loosening up the trucks significantly.

I have used this method for lots of boards for kids and others who needed looser trucks without them having to buy new bushings.

Given you have shaved those bushings down so much, you could cut the top off in that case.

Not sure if you can use the link but I had put up a bushing help on Instagram for this:


https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18116186356129610/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 05, 2022, 04:43:22 PM
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In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.
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Most of the compression happens vertically so I’d just cut 2mm off the top bushing first then maybe sand the bottom or do what Ishod does and run 2 tops
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Yes, just take a mm or two off the bottom of the top bushings and everything will still work exactly as it should while loosening up the trucks significantly.

I have used this method for lots of boards for kids and others who needed looser trucks without them having to buy new bushings.

Given you have shaved those bushings down so much, you could cut the top off in that case.

Not sure if you can use the link but I had put up a bushing help on Instagram for this:


https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18116186356129610/


The first thing I tried was also just using a very thin top bushing but that didn't really make a difference because the kids weight is too low for any compression to happen in the bottom bushing, which is what turns the trucks as far as I understand. (Bottom: turning, Top: return to center, right?)

The way I cut the bottom bushing made it possible to compress with way less force without changing the geometry. Maybe cutting the top down and also changing it to a similar shape as the bottom can lead to the easiest turn possible?

If I stand on the board it already feels like there are no bushings at all, but kids are stupid light.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 05, 2022, 10:50:43 PM
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In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.
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Most of the compression happens vertically so I’d just cut 2mm off the top bushing first then maybe sand the bottom or do what Ishod does and run 2 tops
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Yes, just take a mm or two off the bottom of the top bushings and everything will still work exactly as it should while loosening up the trucks significantly.

I have used this method for lots of boards for kids and others who needed looser trucks without them having to buy new bushings.

Given you have shaved those bushings down so much, you could cut the top off in that case.

Not sure if you can use the link but I had put up a bushing help on Instagram for this:


https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18116186356129610/


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The first thing I tried was also just using a very thin top bushing but that didn't really make a difference because the kids weight is too low for any compression to happen in the bottom bushing, which is what turns the trucks as far as I understand. (Bottom: turning, Top: return to center, right?)

The way I cut the bottom bushing made it possible to compress with way less force without changing the geometry. Maybe cutting the top down and also changing it to a similar shape as the bottom can lead to the easiest turn possible?

If I stand on the board it already feels like there are no bushings at all, but kids are stupid light.

I assume you do not use any washers. If you do, get rid of them and the turn will increase massively.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 06, 2022, 12:07:17 AM
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In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.
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Most of the compression happens vertically so I’d just cut 2mm off the top bushing first then maybe sand the bottom or do what Ishod does and run 2 tops
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Yes, just take a mm or two off the bottom of the top bushings and everything will still work exactly as it should while loosening up the trucks significantly.

I have used this method for lots of boards for kids and others who needed looser trucks without them having to buy new bushings.

Given you have shaved those bushings down so much, you could cut the top off in that case.

Not sure if you can use the link but I had put up a bushing help on Instagram for this:


https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18116186356129610/


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The first thing I tried was also just using a very thin top bushing but that didn't really make a difference because the kids weight is too low for any compression to happen in the bottom bushing, which is what turns the trucks as far as I understand. (Bottom: turning, Top: return to center, right?)

The way I cut the bottom bushing made it possible to compress with way less force without changing the geometry. Maybe cutting the top down and also changing it to a similar shape as the bottom can lead to the easiest turn possible?

If I stand on the board it already feels like there are no bushings at all, but kids are stupid light.


Yeah I understand what you are saying, so at least if that works, then that is a good outcome.

Removing washers (as said) can work too, even just to feel out the bushings for the light weight body in question, but then can change geometry too or cause them to blow out more easily.


By cutting a mm or two off the top bushing on the stock 90 duro, then putting the nut back on to just flush, or where it was before, the trucks are usually almost wobbly loose which usually does the trick for tiny bodies, as well as having the cut off part which can easily be put back in if needed later too.

In experimenting when I first tried this, sometimes I cut too much off, which definitely makes things work way more for very light bodies, then as they grow or get more used to the board, putting the other part back in can be good for them too.

Just a few options.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 06, 2022, 01:04:45 AM
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@Woodshop yeah, memories can be a strange thing sometimes. :)

Anyway. Thanks to the pals who helped me with these old stuffs.

Just curious...2 days ago I assembled a set-up and it was the first time I used a blade to cut the griptaoe around the board. Back in the days my homies and I just scratched the outline with an hard tool (or against something made of concrete) until the grip's outline naturaly break, and we just had to pull on and that was finished. I guess we went that way because the owner of our favorite skateshop did it like that, don't remember exactly.

Anyone else use/used this method?
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We used to use a big raw file to do the edges in one place, but compared to just running the side of a screwdriver round and then a razor blade, everything else just seems time consuming and redundant nowdays.

Out at skateparks when people had to set up boards, I recall one guy just using the edge of his baseplate to hack at his grip, which worked for all the older stuff like Jessup but would give him the biggest problems when grip got a lot thicker and needed a blade to actually cut it.

Like a lot of others, I still ride only the normal Jessup and that still works with any method or doing the edge with almost anything, but most other brands nowdays are thicker and need something sharp to cut through it.

Also gripping twenty or more boards in a day at peak skate shop hours (2005 or so) had to be quick and precise, so I know we got really good at just getting the grip on and not even doing the screwdriver line round it, just blade it off and grip scrap to clean up the edge.

We often would have friendly arguments about where the grip should come to, some saying it should go right over the edge and others saying you should always see the top layer of wood on the board, so it was interesting to see the different jobs by different people from the same place.  Regular customers would come back in and you knew who gripped the board by how much top ply or completely covering the edge it was.

I liked to always see top ply stains on my boards.
As far as I know we always used Jessup grip, that's true,  and a couple of days ago it was also a Jessup sheet (seems just perfect to me), but I wanted to try the "legit" method. I'll don't lie, that was kind of laborious and it tooks me a while, but it ended up pretty fine...phew!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 06, 2022, 01:28:44 AM

As far as I know we always used Jessup grip, that's true,  and a couple of days ago it was also a Jessup sheet (seems just perfect to me), but I wanted to try the "legit" method. I'll don't lie, that was kind of laborious and it tooks me a while, but it ended up pretty fine...phew!


Jessup is funny in that it is so thin and often doesn't cut quite the same way (as easily that is) when compared to a lot of the thicker sheets on the market.

It is all about the angle of the blade too, but having a more blunt or chipped blade can make it a real struggle that would still easily get through Grizzly or Mob, just to name a couple of the bigger ones I have constantly set up boards with over the years.

There is a generic plain black one that is most common for me now that is super thick, almost like a big thick layer of contact, but it works and is easy to apply, can pull up easily enough and cuts without worries, but I still prefer Jessup over everything else for my own boards.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 06, 2022, 02:37:20 AM
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As far as I know we always used Jessup grip, that's true,  and a couple of days ago it was also a Jessup sheet (seems just perfect to me), but I wanted to try the "legit" method. I'll don't lie, that was kind of laborious and it tooks me a while, but it ended up pretty fine...phew!
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Jessup is funny in that it is so thin and often doesn't cut quite the same way (as easily that is) when compared to a lot of the thicker sheets on the market.

It is all about the angle of the blade too, but having a more blunt or chipped blade can make it a real struggle that would still easily get through Grizzly or Mob, just to name a couple of the bigger ones I have constantly set up boards with over the years.

There is a generic plain black one that is most common for me now that is super thick, almost like a big thick layer of contact, but it works and is easy to apply, can pull up easily enough and cuts without worries, but I still prefer Jessup over everything else for my own boards.
It was exactly the problem. I used a pretty new kind of razor blade, but I struggled to keep it in the good line. Always had to go back to rectify. After a while I starter to figure out the angle and strenght needed, but the blade started to get dirty and sticky...such an interesting time. :D

Anyway. At the end of the day the result was totally legit, so everythings's cool, and it should be better next time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 08, 2022, 01:51:57 PM
Answer to my own last question: the Real TG shape isn’t the same as his Krooked jump ramp shape for anyone(probably no one) wondering



Insole question time. I know certain insoles will help with feet aches and pain, but will that translate into my legs being less sore after skating? I also had a back injury over a year ago that results on my back getting sore too. Will the insoles actually help absorb the impact energy and work with the midsole of a shoe? I feel like the answer should be yes to both, but skateboard companies and pseudoscience have a long standing partnership. Specifically looking to avoid FP
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on March 08, 2022, 02:16:18 PM
In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.

Someone else can probably or has probably gave you a better but I think boiling them will soften them up some too. I’ve never done it so I can’t confirm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
Answer to my own last question: the Real TG shape isn’t the same as his Krooked jump ramp shape for anyone(probably no one) wondering



Insole question time. I know certain insoles will help with feet aches and pain, but will that translate into my legs being less sore after skating? I also had a back injury over a year ago that results on my back getting sore too. Will the insoles actually help absorb the impact energy and work with the midsole of a shoe? I feel like the answer should be yes to both, but skateboard companies and pseudoscience have a long standing partnership. Specifically looking to avoid FP


Waiting for these answers, for a friend.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pdknox on March 08, 2022, 03:58:33 PM
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In which shape can I cut a bushing in order to make it feel as soft as possible for a very lightweight child?
I did this to standard thunders and it made it significantly better, but I guess there has to be some kind of sweet spot shape and someone might have done the experiments already.
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Someone else can probably or has probably gave you a better but I think boiling them will soften them up some too. I’ve never done it so I can’t confirm

@goodatmeth

In case you haven’t seen it https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2017/01/18/the-pro-skaters-guide-to-loose-trucks/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 08, 2022, 05:32:10 PM
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Answer to my own last question: the Real TG shape isn’t the same as his Krooked jump ramp shape for anyone(probably no one) wondering



Insole question time. I know certain insoles will help with feet aches and pain, but will that translate into my legs being less sore after skating? I also had a back injury over a year ago that results on my back getting sore too. Will the insoles actually help absorb the impact energy and work with the midsole of a shoe? I feel like the answer should be yes to both, but skateboard companies and pseudoscience have a long standing partnership. Specifically looking to avoid FP
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Waiting for these answers, for a friend.
I think unfortunately the answer is different for everyone. My spines been fucked since 2011 and on and off I've tried whatever better cupsole shoe options with whatever insoles and nothing ever felt better than just plain classic vans. Your actual feet and legs will do more for your back than some foam inside your shoes will.(or at least that's how it is for me)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 08, 2022, 09:27:09 PM
what is that japanese site that measures all the decks?
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Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 08, 2022, 09:43:24 PM
what is that japanese site that measures all the decks?
https://r-fskate.com/smartphone/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on March 08, 2022, 10:10:55 PM
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what is that japanese site that measures all the decks?
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https://r-fskate.com/smartphone/
^THIS

...Although a few other sites now are also starting to list more dimensions.

EDIT: prior post had the main page which is useless for people who don't read Japanese.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck?sort=latest#brandlist (https://www.californiastreet.net)
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Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 05:25:46 AM
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what is that japanese site that measures all the decks?
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https://r-fskate.com/smartphone/
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^THIS

...Although a few other sites now are also starting to list more dimensions.

EDIT: prior post had the main page which is useless for people who don't read Japanese.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck?sort=latest#brandlist (https://www.californiastreet.net)


I am curious how many people use this on a phone. 

Everything I do is always on a normal computer (laptop or desktop) and it auto translates everything anyway, but I can definitely see issues with something like either of those sites if you didn't have those options.

Thanks for that second link too, which is good and also has all relevant info.

It is still the weirdest mix of imperial and metric with measuring skateboard products, but I also have the conversion window open to be able to check anything with all the deck measurements in cm and mm, when I am so much more used to them in inches.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 05:28:47 AM
Now this is more detail than I have ever seen from any other shop, even saying which way the BAKER name runs on the board (and don't mind the browser translation, just appreciate the info):


https://www.californiastreet.net/c/brand/brand-b/baker/de-ba-bl-bkwt84-o


ANDREW REYNOLDS's skateboard deck brand BAKER.

The product of this place becomes graphic "B" nose, "R" tail, it becomes.

Length 80.9cm Width 21.4cm Nose 18.4cm Tail 17.0cm
Wheel base 35.7cm Concave Medium / Kick Medium

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 09, 2022, 05:39:05 AM
If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on March 09, 2022, 05:58:59 AM
Now this is more detail than I have ever seen from any other shop, even saying which way the BAKER name runs on the board (and don't mind the browser translation, just appreciate the info):


https://www.californiastreet.net/c/brand/brand-b/baker/de-ba-bl-bkwt84-o


ANDREW REYNOLDS's skateboard deck brand BAKER.

The product of this place becomes graphic "B" nose, "R" tail, it becomes.

Length 80.9cm Width 21.4cm Nose 18.4cm Tail 17.0cm
Wheel base 35.7cm Concave Medium / Kick Medium

The shop is also very honest about where they source blanks for their shop decks from (the unstained wood decks are from DSM, the black painted decks are from BBS.) Not sure where the Todd Francis and other collabo decks are sourced from though.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet (https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:00:04 AM
If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge


Ha yeah totally!

Already I am sure there have been some semi heated conversations about how close boards are to certain quarter inch sizes, eg the DLX 8.25 boards have always been a bit over 8.25 so take that down to mm and it is either a whole lot of "smile and nod" or someone is going to get really upset over the fact that it is not actually 20.955 cm and more like 21 cm, which is what it measures with this tape here...


* Which I forgot to add is 8.26

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:03:42 AM
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Now this is more detail than I have ever seen from any other shop, even saying which way the BAKER name runs on the board (and don't mind the browser translation, just appreciate the info):


https://www.californiastreet.net/c/brand/brand-b/baker/de-ba-bl-bkwt84-o


ANDREW REYNOLDS's skateboard deck brand BAKER.

The product of this place becomes graphic "B" nose, "R" tail, it becomes.

Length 80.9cm Width 21.4cm Nose 18.4cm Tail 17.0cm
Wheel base 35.7cm Concave Medium / Kick Medium
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The shop is also very honest about where they source blanks for their shop decks from (the unstained wood decks are from DSM, the black painted decks are from BBS.) Not sure where the Todd Francis and other collabo decks are sourced from though.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet (https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet)


I can definitely appreciate that (and can add it to the Woodshop thread for shop boards list as well.

Thanks!!!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on March 09, 2022, 06:09:26 AM
If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge

Hahaha, that's a tough one.

I mean if one has already delved into the fiery madness of wheelbase length, using metric might cause a flare-up of hemorrhoidal proportions after eating ghost peppers.

Ultimately 3mm = a hair over 1/16th of an inch.

But the numerical value of "3" without conceptual grasp of units may prove to be the proverbial plastic straw that broke the camel's back or got stuck in the leatherback turtle's nostril.

YMMV; Princess and the pea. ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Reed Richards on March 09, 2022, 01:44:56 PM
What are the pros and cons of Venture highs vs lows?
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Post by: Ok on March 09, 2022, 01:46:54 PM
Being tru 2 da game
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 09, 2022, 02:12:57 PM
Low trucks + steep kicks opinions?

Ace low + fa/hockey for example.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on March 09, 2022, 03:01:42 PM
ran low 5.2s w/ hockey 8.5 and the pop was legendary

i dont think any pal has the ace lows
nor do i think they will perform like venture lows
ace turn on a low+wide truck sounds like a disaster bar slappies
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on March 09, 2022, 03:07:45 PM
Low trucks + steep kicks opinions?

Ace low + fa/hockey for example.
i preferred mellower kicks on thunder, thunders aren't the same as ace lo but similar.
scoop tricks felt better to me that way, but by all means experiment! everyone has different tastes after all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 09, 2022, 10:32:53 PM
Any pointers describing hardware for deck rails? I know what they look like but don't know the type or exact length to look for.

Best guess would be 1/2" Philips Round Head screws with a point?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 09, 2022, 10:42:25 PM
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what is that japanese site that measures all the decks?
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https://r-fskate.com/smartphone/
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^THIS

...Although a few other sites now are also starting to list more dimensions.

EDIT: prior post had the main page which is useless for people who don't read Japanese.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck?sort=latest#brandlist (https://www.californiastreet.net)
My bad https://r-fskate.com/smartphone/list.html?category_code=de_brand
Just hit the pull down arrow at the top and you can search by brand
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on March 09, 2022, 10:49:18 PM
I've had both, ace lows and venture lows. Ventures felt so much better. The pop feel is just so much sharper. Turn goes to aces but that kingpin clearence was so bad
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on March 09, 2022, 11:01:09 PM
Where can I get Ace hard bushings in the EU?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 09, 2022, 11:15:26 PM
I've had both, ace lows and venture lows. Ventures felt so much better. The pop feel is just so much sharper. Turn goes to aces but that kingpin clearence was so bad

What decks did you ride them with ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 10, 2022, 06:25:23 AM
Any pointers describing hardware for deck rails? I know what they look like but don't know the type or exact length to look for.

Best guess would be 1/2" Philips Round Head screws with a point?

#6 or #8 x .5"-5/8" wood screws. I'd recommend the 5/8" if you are using something thicker like a Bones or New Deal rail.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on March 10, 2022, 09:36:34 AM
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I've had both, ace lows and venture lows. Ventures felt so much better. The pop feel is just so much sharper. Turn goes to aces but that kingpin clearence was so bad
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What decks did you ride them with ?
Rode Passport with both. Long and mellow kicks. Aces didn't work at all. If you do lot of 5050s kingpin will also catch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on March 10, 2022, 01:06:03 PM
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If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge
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Hahaha, that's a tough one.

I mean if one has already delved into the fiery madness of wheelbase length, using metric might cause a flare-up of hemorrhoidal proportions after eating ghost peppers.

Ultimately 3mm = a hair over 1/16th of an inch.

But the numerical value of "3" without conceptual grasp of units may prove to be the proverbial plastic straw that broke the camel's back or got stuck in the leatherback turtle's nostril.

YMMV; Princess and the pea. ;)
C’mon, dude. 3mm = .118”, 1/16”= .0625. Way closer to a hair under 1/8” than a hair over 1/16”. .007 v .0555 freedom units
Also, yeah-3mm~1/8’ is insignificant on board dimensions, kinda a deal for wheels and only matters on height for trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 10, 2022, 04:13:05 PM
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If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge
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Hahaha, that's a tough one.

I mean if one has already delved into the fiery madness of wheelbase length, using metric might cause a flare-up of hemorrhoidal proportions after eating ghost peppers.

Ultimately 3mm = a hair over 1/16th of an inch.

But the numerical value of "3" without conceptual grasp of units may prove to be the proverbial plastic straw that broke the camel's back or got stuck in the leatherback turtle's nostril.

YMMV; Princess and the pea. ;)
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C’mon, dude. 3mm = .118”, 1/16”= .0625. Way closer to a hair under 1/8” than a hair over 1/16”. .007 v .0555 freedom units
Also, yeah-3mm~1/8’ is insignificant on board dimensions, kinda a deal for wheels and only matters on height for trucks


It is funny though, cause trying to get someone to ride an 8.25 after being on an 8.38 and we could both clearly tell the difference in that amount of width of deck was a curious thing, given I didn't say what the board size was, but it definitely made a difference.

Some boards that are only a single mm different not so much though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 10, 2022, 05:11:11 PM
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I've had both, ace lows and venture lows. Ventures felt so much better. The pop feel is just so much sharper. Turn goes to aces but that kingpin clearence was so bad
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What decks did you ride them with ?
My first set of Ace’s were classic 03’s. I think I preferred them to the full height Ace’s I tried after. I skated them with an 8.12 eagle and 52mm classics. It was a good setup. Can’t say it had a noticeable effect on my pop either way though. 50-50’s weren’t that much of an issue after a couple of days either since I skated them until they were axled
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on March 10, 2022, 06:28:29 PM
do yall change bushings when changing wheelbase?

the ace low set were great with a 14.25 wb
feeling a little too squirrelly on a 13.9 deck
thinking of running the supercush 94a on the short wb deck
& moving the ace lows to a 14.38 transition setup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on March 11, 2022, 05:43:06 AM
Do certain wheels kill your bearings?

I bought a set of stf's on discount from SW and so far they've killed 8 old swiss and now 2 mini logo bearings. The swiss were a year old and I put them in from the axle (the wheel hole was really tight so I think that probably damaged it a lot), but the mini logos I put on using a hammer and an old bearing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 11, 2022, 05:53:39 AM
Kinda random one. Did anyone have those old Reese Forbes dunks with the camo upper and orange soles (I think called hunter)? Did they have some suede or leather material under the canvas?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on March 11, 2022, 06:10:10 AM
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If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge
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Hahaha, that's a tough one.

I mean if one has already delved into the fiery madness of wheelbase length, using metric might cause a flare-up of hemorrhoidal proportions after eating ghost peppers.

Ultimately 3mm = a hair over 1/16th of an inch.

But the numerical value of "3" without conceptual grasp of units may prove to be the proverbial plastic straw that broke the camel's back or got stuck in the leatherback turtle's nostril.

YMMV; Princess and the pea. ;)
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C’mon, dude. 3mm = .118”, 1/16”= .0625. Way closer to a hair under 1/8” than a hair over 1/16”. .007 v .0555 freedom units
Also, yeah-3mm~1/8’ is insignificant on board dimensions, kinda a deal for wheels and only matters on height for trucks
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It is funny though, cause trying to get someone to ride an 8.25 after being on an 8.38 and we could both clearly tell the difference in that amount of width of deck was a curious thing, given I didn't say what the board size was, but it definitely made a difference.

Some boards that are only a single mm different not so much though.
No, yeah, I’m totally full of BS. I would abso-smurfing-lutely insist 8.375 is too small, but will skate an 8.5. I’ve generally been riding big’uns and don’t sweat 8.75 through 9.25ish.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 11, 2022, 06:22:26 AM
Do certain wheels kill your bearings?

I bought a set of stf's on discount from SW and so far they've killed 8 old swiss and now 2 mini logo bearings. The swiss were a year old and I put them in from the axle (the wheel hole was really tight so I think that probably damaged it a lot), but the mini logos I put on using a hammer and an old bearing.

You might be on to something if the fit was tight and the bearings didnt sit straight.
I invested in an off-brand bearing press a couple of years ago and its been so worth it. Id highly recommend getting one, especially if it has the part that will pull them out too. Makes you way more willing to clean and rotate your set up


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Any pointers describing hardware for deck rails? I know what they look like but don't know the type or exact length to look for.

Best guess would be 1/2" Philips Round Head screws with a point?
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#6 or #8 x .5"-5/8" wood screws. I'd recommend the 5/8" if you are using something thicker like a Bones or New Deal rail.
Thanks man
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 11, 2022, 09:42:24 AM
anyone ever have a situation where one truck needs/wants to be tightened more than the other to be about the same tightness? i have a pair of ventures with a front that felt floppier than normal and i noticed the bushing was shredded so i put some fresh stocks i had laying around (back and front) and the one truck just absolutely wants to be cranked down more, it even turns easier as i'm tightening. is this a pivot cup thing maybe and not bushings??
for what it's worth, i barely tighten from stock and maybe have 1/2 of a thread showing. kind of knew that bushing would be a problem from the start since it never seemed to break in right for some reason
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 11, 2022, 10:02:25 AM
anyone ever have a situation where one truck needs/wants to be tightened more than the other to be about the same tightness? i have a pair of ventures with a front that felt floppier than normal and i noticed the bushing was shredded so i put some fresh stocks i had laying around (back and front) and the one truck just absolutely wants to be cranked down more, it even turns easier as i'm tightening. is this a pivot cup thing maybe and not bushings??
for what it's worth, i barely tighten from stock and maybe have 1/2 of a thread showing. kind of knew that bushing would be a problem from the start since it never seemed to break in right for some reason
Is your kingpin well in place like it should in the baseplate for both truck?

Is the part of the kingpin exceeding the baseplate the same lenght for both truck?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 11, 2022, 11:32:31 AM
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anyone ever have a situation where one truck needs/wants to be tightened more than the other to be about the same tightness? i have a pair of ventures with a front that felt floppier than normal and i noticed the bushing was shredded so i put some fresh stocks i had laying around (back and front) and the one truck just absolutely wants to be cranked down more, it even turns easier as i'm tightening. is this a pivot cup thing maybe and not bushings??
for what it's worth, i barely tighten from stock and maybe have 1/2 of a thread showing. kind of knew that bushing would be a problem from the start since it never seemed to break in right for some reason
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Is your kingpin well in place like it should in the baseplate for both truck?

Is the part of the kingpin exceeding the baseplate the same lenght for both truck?

oh boy, was hoping it wouldn't come to this lol. without taking them off and looking underneath at that situation, the kp's feel sturdy. when i have a little more time today i'll see if i can measure the kp's and get an idea of that.

longer kp does seem like the obvious answer though and i totally overlooked that, so ty
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Post by: Solex on March 11, 2022, 02:38:31 PM
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anyone ever have a situation where one truck needs/wants to be tightened more than the other to be about the same tightness? i have a pair of ventures with a front that felt floppier than normal and i noticed the bushing was shredded so i put some fresh stocks i had laying around (back and front) and the one truck just absolutely wants to be cranked down more, it even turns easier as i'm tightening. is this a pivot cup thing maybe and not bushings??
for what it's worth, i barely tighten from stock and maybe have 1/2 of a thread showing. kind of knew that bushing would be a problem from the start since it never seemed to break in right for some reason
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Is your kingpin well in place like it should in the baseplate for both truck?

Is the part of the kingpin exceeding the baseplate the same lenght for both truck?
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oh boy, was hoping it wouldn't come to this lol. without taking them off and looking underneath at that situation, the kp's feel sturdy. when i have a little more time today i'll see if i can measure the kp's and get an idea of that.

longer kp does seem like the obvious answer though and i totally overlooked that, so ty
Happy if I can help.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on March 11, 2022, 08:17:52 PM
215’s or nah?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on March 11, 2022, 09:05:06 PM
215’s or nah?

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ARNQkcBuUznMd05XzN/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 12, 2022, 01:57:01 AM
Picked up an old Santa Cruz Justin Strubing setup from a thrift find and noticed the top ply wasn't maple. Can anyone help with identifying it?
(https://i.imgur.com/n8cOnHUl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XQNKSAhl.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 12, 2022, 02:24:18 AM
Looks like a layer of fiber glass?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 03:04:03 AM
Picked up an old Santa Cruz Justin Strubing setup from a thrift find and noticed the top ply wasn't maple. Can anyone help with identifying it?


Looks like a layer of fiber glass?

Yes it is the same type of stuff that Folklore and other brands have used as an additional strength layer on top.

Strubing deck would have been from a while ago now too, ten years or more?

He was on Santa Cruz from around 2007 until 2015 I think.


I found this:


https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/p.aspx?ID=26759

SANTA CRUZ JUSTIN STRUBING STRIP POWERLYTE DECK


(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/1_26759.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 12, 2022, 04:04:11 AM
Thanks @Woodshop, spot on. I already have a Justin Strubing deck to keep for skatehoarding and the tail is pretty worn, thinking if should set it up and give it a good end of life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on March 12, 2022, 04:08:07 AM
Set it up and skate it. Had one of the Powerlite decks. I liked it very much. Probably has lots of pop still. Would be curious about your feedback how it skates after.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 04:52:07 AM
Thanks @Woodshop, spot on. I already have a Justin Strubing deck to keep for skatehoarding and the tail is pretty worn, thinking if should set it up and give it a good end of life.

Set it up and skate it. Had one of the Powerlite decks. I liked it very much. Probably has lots of pop still. Would be curious about your feedback how it skates after.


It has been too long, but you guys could see / recall - was it just the think carbon fibre or whatever layer on top of the seven ply wood, or was / does it look like six layers or anything different?


Folklore had the two options, the normal board with the black layer on top and the lite board with less wood, which was said to be out of the same place, so generally speaking it could have been either.

I should just look it up anyway.


Found this:

PowerLyte's super thin, 8-ply maple veneers and bullet-proof top layer yield the strongest, lightest skateboard decks available. Constructed 90% of wood, it's the other 10% that makes PowerLyte decks incredibly strong and 22% lighter. Compared to conventional wood decks, PowerLytes flip quicker and are 150% stronger.


And then this:

http://www.tankgirl.info/stp/articles/deckTech.html

(http://www.tankgirl.info/stp/images/articles/deckTech/powerlyte.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 12, 2022, 05:44:09 AM
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Thanks @Woodshop, spot on. I already have a Justin Strubing deck to keep for skatehoarding and the tail is pretty worn, thinking if should set it up and give it a good end of life.
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Set it up and skate it. Had one of the Powerlite decks. I liked it very much. Probably has lots of pop still. Would be curious about your feedback how it skates after.
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It has been too long, but you guys could see / recall - was it just the think carbon fibre or whatever layer on top of the seven ply wood, or was / does it look like six layers or anything different?


Folklore had the two options, the normal board with the black layer on top and the lite board with less wood, which was said to be out of the same place, so generally speaking it could have been either.

I should just look it up anyway.


Found this:

PowerLyte's super thin, 8-ply maple veneers and bullet-proof top layer yield the strongest, lightest skateboard decks available. Constructed 90% of wood, it's the other 10% that makes PowerLyte decks incredibly strong and 22% lighter. Compared to conventional wood decks, PowerLytes flip quicker and are 150% stronger.


And then this:

http://www.tankgirl.info/stp/articles/deckTech.html

(http://www.tankgirl.info/stp/images/articles/deckTech/powerlyte.jpg)

@tuesday - sounds like a plan

Quite the trip down memory lane, I rode a Darkstar Armor Light deck and stomped a few FS 180s dead center, cracking the top and bottom plys but no the middle reinforced layer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 05:16:05 PM

Quite the trip down memory lane, I rode a Darkstar Armor Light deck and stomped a few FS 180s dead center, cracking the top and bottom plys but no the middle reinforced layer.

Those things were virtually unbreakable.

We had one come back that the guy skated to death and his mates just could not break and we ended up cutting it apart just to look at the insides of it.


The thing is with all these technologies, at some point they stopped doing them, which makes me think either they didn't quite hold up to how they were supposed to work, or the cost involved in production outweighed the performance.

I know one other guy said they made them too good so either had to sell them for a lot more or just stop making them, so maybe that is what happened.


The helium boards didn't last though - one came back after one session in pieces.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on March 12, 2022, 06:00:33 PM
Someone ordered me the Tom Knox reissue deck that Santa Cruz just put out for my birthday.  I thought the shape looked cool - kind of between a Dane 1 and a Krooked sweatpants shape. 

Serious question - are these reissue decks meant to be skated or are they supposed to be wallhangers? For the price I doubt they’re that rare or exclusive in terms of the quantity being produced but I don’t want to ignorantly destroy a collectible item in two weeks with my mediocre-ly executed nose and tailslides
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on March 12, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
Skate it. Those re-issues can be fun. The Knox is a great shape with double drilled wheelbase
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 08:03:12 PM
Someone ordered me the Tom Knox reissue deck that Santa Cruz just put out for my birthday.  I thought the shape looked cool - kind of between a Dane 1 and a Krooked sweatpants shape. 

Serious question - are these reissue decks meant to be skated or are they supposed to be wallhangers? For the price I doubt they’re that rare or exclusive in terms of the quantity being produced but I don’t want to ignorantly destroy a collectible item in two weeks with my mediocre-ly executed nose and tailslides

Skate it. Those re-issues can be fun. The Knox is a great shape with double drilled wheelbase


Totally agree.  Skate it and don't worry about anything else.

There are enough of those reissues coming out that they are not really collectable in the sense of the price going up, limited editions or much else, in the same way any OG board will soar in value if still mint in shrink does.

For the most part they are all made on the same presses with the same wood as any other normal board in today's market, but I do know some people that had the full painted Santa Cruz boards, often called dipped boards, which tend to use cheaper wood, more so than the stained boards, who said they got soggy faster than other boards they have had.

All up for a normal skateboard that is going to be skated, it should hold up just fine though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 12, 2022, 08:11:25 PM
Favorite canvas shoe? Why canvas? I just like they way they feel. Currently skating suede eras, usually skate 1010s, or Jordan’s. So I’m all over the place. I like to switch it up.
My favorites, so far, have been canvas slip ons, and then the blue Julien vans shoe from several years back.
Please and thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on March 12, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
Favorite canvas shoe? Why canvas? I just like they way they feel. Currently skating suede eras, usually skate 1010s, or Jordan’s. So I’m all over the place. I like to switch it up.
My favorites, so far, have been canvas slip ons, and then the blue Julien vans shoe from several years back.
Please and thanks
last resort canvas is pretty good. chuck 70s are also great :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 12, 2022, 09:54:38 PM
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Favorite canvas shoe? Why canvas? I just like they way they feel. Currently skating suede eras, usually skate 1010s, or Jordan’s. So I’m all over the place. I like to switch it up.
My favorites, so far, have been canvas slip ons, and then the blue Julien vans shoe from several years back.
Please and thanks
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last resort canvas is pretty good. chuck 70s are also great :)

Thanks!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on March 12, 2022, 10:08:01 PM
Someone ordered me the Tom Knox reissue deck that Santa Cruz just put out for my birthday.  I thought the shape looked cool - kind of between a Dane 1 and a Krooked sweatpants shape. 

Serious question - are these reissue decks meant to be skated or are they supposed to be wallhangers? For the price I doubt they’re that rare or exclusive in terms of the quantity being produced but I don’t want to ignorantly destroy a collectible item in two weeks with my mediocre-ly executed nose and tailslides
If it's available to order online for retail then it's not that collectible and you should skate it regardless.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 12, 2022, 11:21:41 PM
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Quite the trip down memory lane, I rode a Darkstar Armor Light deck and stomped a few FS 180s dead center, cracking the top and bottom plys but no the middle reinforced layer.
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Those things were virtually unbreakable.

We had one come back that the guy skated to death and his mates just could not break and we ended up cutting it apart just to look at the insides of it.


The thing is with all these technologies, at some point they stopped doing them, which makes me think either they didn't quite hold up to how they were supposed to work, or the cost involved in production outweighed the performance.

I know one other guy said they made them too good so either had to sell them for a lot more or just stop making them, so maybe that is what happened.


The helium boards didn't last though - one came back after one session in pieces.
I think it was a combination of price point mixed with people just not wanting to skate them. Can’t sell them if no one wants to buy them

I’ve tried a few though. The Popwar tear decks were pretty great. I cracked the top layers ollieing a shoulder high gap, but the board felt like nothing was wrong afterwards. It held up for a few days until I got a new board. The Expedition One Inter-Lock boards had a problem with the bolts rattling themselves loose while skating. I think mine was a Ronson Lambert and the tail broke off in an almost perfectly straight line. The New Wave boards were my personal favorite though. I attribute learning tailslides to that deck technology. I was also 12 and probably couldn’t tell if the ridges actually helped or not either way. They did chip real easily though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 13, 2022, 12:53:55 AM
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Quite the trip down memory lane, I rode a Darkstar Armor Light deck and stomped a few FS 180s dead center, cracking the top and bottom plys but no the middle reinforced layer.
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Those things were virtually unbreakable.

We had one come back that the guy skated to death and his mates just could not break and we ended up cutting it apart just to look at the insides of it.


The thing is with all these technologies, at some point they stopped doing them, which makes me think either they didn't quite hold up to how they were supposed to work, or the cost involved in production outweighed the performance.

I know one other guy said they made them too good so either had to sell them for a lot more or just stop making them, so maybe that is what happened.


The helium boards didn't last though - one came back after one session in pieces.
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I think it was a combination of price point mixed with people just not wanting to skate them. Can’t sell them if no one wants to buy them

I’ve tried a few though. The Popwar tear decks were pretty great. I cracked the top layers ollieing a shoulder high gap, but the board felt like nothing was wrong afterwards. It held up for a few days until I got a new board. The Expedition One Inter-Lock boards had a problem with the bolts rattling themselves loose while skating. I think mine was a Ronson Lambert and the tail broke off in an almost perfectly straight line. The New Wave boards were my personal favorite though. I attribute learning tailslides to that deck technology. I was also 12 and probably couldn’t tell if the ridges actually helped or not either way. They did chip real easily though

Pricepoint - also Darkstar, I've bought a few Darkstar decks on discount for the R7 but could never bring myself to ride them, ended up passing them on to homies at cost.

Popwar - Rode 2 of the TechDrop ones, long steep nose for a 7.5" deck. Only good things to say about the wood, team, graphics and the 1 video they released.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31x1O730EhL._SL960_AA960_.jpg)

P2 - they were great while they were in circulation, really stiff despite the razor tail

Fibertech Lite - seen on Folklore and a couple of other brands, maybe it's nostalgia talking but I really loved the 1 8.0 I rode on this, kept its pop for way longer than expected.

Ronson Lambert - shudders
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on March 13, 2022, 05:20:41 AM
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Someone ordered me the Tom Knox reissue deck that Santa Cruz just put out for my birthday.  I thought the shape looked cool - kind of between a Dane 1 and a Krooked sweatpants shape. 

Serious question - are these reissue decks meant to be skated or are they supposed to be wallhangers? For the price I doubt they’re that rare or exclusive in terms of the quantity being produced but I don’t want to ignorantly destroy a collectible item in two weeks with my mediocre-ly executed nose and tailslides
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Skate it. Those re-issues can be fun. The Knox is a great shape with double drilled wheelbase
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Totally agree.  Skate it and don't worry about anything else.

There are enough of those reissues coming out that they are not really collectable in the sense of the price going up, limited editions or much else, in the same way any OG board will soar in value if still mint in shrink does.

For the most part they are all made on the same presses with the same wood as any other normal board in today's market, but I do know some people that had the full painted Santa Cruz boards, often called dipped boards, which tend to use cheaper wood, more so than the stained boards, who said they got soggy faster than other boards they have had.

All up for a normal skateboard that is going to be skated, it should hold up just fine though.

Sounds like the consensus is definitely skate it.  I like it.  Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 13, 2022, 10:51:12 AM
How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 13, 2022, 03:38:04 PM
How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.

FS or BS?

Either way, thing that always helps me is having my toes on the tail, just above the heel side pocket for fs and just above the toe side pickest for bs. Unweight from the nose and push back on the tail, but also be sure you are turning your shoulders from the curb...they should be doing the majority of the work.

Sorry if that's inarticulate. I'm better at FS and always find that pointing my front index finger away from the curb helps a lot.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 13, 2022, 03:59:34 PM
How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.
I don't do slappies, but when you're in, I assume a crooked is a crooked, so...

I think the more natural and the easiest way to get out of a crooked (or a noseslide) is a pivot in order to fakie out. I feel the 'normal' way really harder.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on March 13, 2022, 04:01:16 PM
How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.

Nollie fs 180 is always easier out of a crook than comin out to regular
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 13, 2022, 05:30:58 PM
How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.

If you learn or can do very minimal nollie shifty type tricks on flat, they translate really well to getting out of crooks.

It is not the popping up high to get out, but the pushing forward and transfer of movement to the side even a little bit that gets you off the crooked grind position and back to beside the curb or ledge or whatever it is you are doing it on.

Try them on flat rolling with one push a bit first just to see, but the weight position is mostly over your front foot and back heel to pivot out if you cannot get the whole board to pop sideways under you.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 13, 2022, 07:26:27 PM
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How do I get out of slappy crooks? I can lock into them but I don‘t know how to get out.
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If you learn or can do very minimal nollie shifty type tricks on flat, they translate really well to getting out of crooks.

It is not the popping up high to get out, but the pushing forward and transfer of movement to the side even a little bit that gets you off the crooked grind position and back to beside the curb or ledge or whatever it is you are doing it on.

Try them on flat rolling with one push a bit first just to see, but the weight position is mostly over your front foot and back heel to pivot out if you cannot get the whole board to pop sideways under you.

This is a better explanation of what I came to say, which is to sort of push forward and shift out onto your back truck. Thinking of it as a mini nollie shifty totally makes sense
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 13, 2022, 11:32:37 PM
Wow thanks guys.

I was talking about backside and I actually got two where I got out to fakie, my question was about coming out to regular. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I have the back foot on bolts so that might be an issue, I‘ll try to move it further back. I will also try nollie shifty stuff.

 I need to get these, the grind feels so dope.

 Thanks again to all, it‘s nice to ask a question and to wake up and find many competent answers  8)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 14, 2022, 02:32:34 AM
Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 14, 2022, 06:42:26 AM
Wow thanks guys.

I was talking about backside and I actually got two where I got out to fakie, my question was about coming out to regular. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I have the back foot on bolts so that might be an issue, I‘ll try to move it further back. I will also try nollie shifty stuff.

 I need to get these, the grind feels so dope.

 Thanks again to all, it‘s nice to ask a question and to wake up and find many competent answers  8)

Not saying to crank your front truck down, but a slightly tighter truck is easier to bounce out of a crook than a loose one. Its doable on both, but easier if you have some resistance there to give you some bounce out of the pinch.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 14, 2022, 07:47:46 AM
Wow thanks guys.

I was talking about backside and I actually got two where I got out to fakie, my question was about coming out to regular. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I have the back foot on bolts so that might be an issue, I‘ll try to move it further back. I will also try nollie shifty stuff.

 I need to get these, the grind feels so dope.

 Thanks again to all, it‘s nice to ask a question and to wake up and find many competent answers  8)

Also, a rounder edge wheel like a spitfire classic will help you come out a bit easier compared to a conical with a square edge. Of course you also won’t lock in to your slappy crooks as well, but might be helpful until you get really comfortable with them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 14, 2022, 10:15:05 AM
Someone ordered me the Tom Knox reissue deck that Santa Cruz just put out for my birthday.  I thought the shape looked cool - kind of between a Dane 1 and a Krooked sweatpants shape. 

Serious question - are these reissue decks meant to be skated or are they supposed to be wallhangers? For the price I doubt they’re that rare or exclusive in terms of the quantity being produced but I don’t want to ignorantly destroy a collectible item in two weeks with my mediocre-ly executed nose and tailslides

I know an old fart who skates the Knox reissues regularly and he rips them pretty hard.

With that said, you are right that it’s very similar the Dane 1, which is why I’d keep the Knox as a wall hanger (and honestly potential investment) and skate a cheaper and more common board of the same shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 14, 2022, 12:30:36 PM
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Wow thanks guys.

I was talking about backside and I actually got two where I got out to fakie, my question was about coming out to regular. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I have the back foot on bolts so that might be an issue, I‘ll try to move it further back. I will also try nollie shifty stuff.

 I need to get these, the grind feels so dope.

 Thanks again to all, it‘s nice to ask a question and to wake up and find many competent answers  8)
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Not saying to crank your front truck down, but a slightly tighter truck is easier to bounce out of a crook than a loose one. Its doable on both, but easier if you have some resistance there to give you some bounce out of the pinch.

Ok, I have thought about tightening my trucks a bit anyway.

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Wow thanks guys.

I was talking about backside and I actually got two where I got out to fakie, my question was about coming out to regular. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I have the back foot on bolts so that might be an issue, I‘ll try to move it further back. I will also try nollie shifty stuff.

 I need to get these, the grind feels so dope.

 Thanks again to all, it‘s nice to ask a question and to wake up and find many competent answers  8)
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Also, a rounder edge wheel like a spitfire classic will help you come out a bit easier compared to a conical with a square edge. Of course you also won’t lock in to your slappy crooks as well, but might be helpful until you get really comfortable with them.

I got rounded edge wheels, they lock in fine tho.

Thanks again, have a round of gnars.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 15, 2022, 05:45:52 AM
Anyone skate or know of skateparks that use recycled plastic obstacles?
You normally find benches made of it around parks and schools in Aus usually a blue/green colour. Pretty decent actually don't know how they'd compare to those la tables. There's some campaign in Aus to recycle your plastic rubbish (like food packaging) and schools get balance beams or something. Wonder how a recycled plastic balance beam would go as a flatbar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 15, 2022, 08:17:40 AM
Anyone skate or know of skateparks that use recycled plastic obstacles?
You normally find benches made of it around parks and schools in Aus usually a blue/green colour. Pretty decent actually don't know how they'd compare to those la tables. There's some campaign in Aus to recycle your plastic rubbish (like food packaging) and schools get balance beams or something. Wonder how a recycled plastic balance beam would go as a flatbar.

Horribly - we have some parks here that used the material for ledges and while they lasted forever felt terrible to skate. Unpredictably slick and you couldn't feel the grind at all, nothing for the truck to grip on to.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 15, 2022, 09:36:22 AM
OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on March 15, 2022, 10:09:04 AM
Maybe via Matt Reason? Could it be one guy setting up a whole bunch of people? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 15, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
Matt Reason had 63mm wheels out during this time, I believe.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FsD9rdt53u8/SRan2ENpYFI/AAAAAAAABqs/u3Zda82G5m8/s1600/mattreasonswitchwallie.jpg)

Thanks, and I know this is some dork shit, but that ad is from 1996 or 1997 after they blew up (I have the TWS issue that it first ran in). I'm talking about in the early days of that crew, before EE3 made big wheels a thing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on March 15, 2022, 10:20:28 AM
Anyone skate or know of skateparks that use recycled plastic obstacles?
You normally find benches made of it around parks and schools in Aus usually a blue/green colour. Pretty decent actually don't know how they'd compare to those la tables. There's some campaign in Aus to recycle your plastic rubbish (like food packaging) and schools get balance beams or something. Wonder how a recycled plastic balance beam would go as a flatbar.

Butter bench or butter board. Mostly only seen in DIY efforts

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-pllu8dargz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2001/13633/JORDAN-HOFFART-S-BUTTER-BENCH__S_1__53713.1617722585.jpg?c=1)

If the table is blue or green then it is the same product that you speak of but if it is classic tan then it's made of fiberglass
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on March 15, 2022, 04:46:01 PM
what are the widest contact patch wheels with the least diameter? i love how my v6 stfs feel worn down from 56mm to 50mm, but i'm not too keen to experience the hellish wheelbite process to get them back to that perfect spot.
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Post by: Solex on March 15, 2022, 05:17:23 PM
what are the widest contact patch wheels with the least diameter? i love how my v6 stfs feel worn down from 56mm to 50mm, but i'm not too keen to experience the hellish wheelbite process to get them back to that perfect spot.
No clue about other brands, but in regards to the Formula Four familly the Conical Full shape has the best riding surface/diameter ratio with 21mm for the 52mm one (the smallest diameter available in this shape)

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/

But you should rather ask that in the dedicated wheels thread.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2022, 06:14:09 PM
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what are the widest contact patch wheels with the least diameter? i love how my v6 stfs feel worn down from 56mm to 50mm, but i'm not too keen to experience the hellish wheelbite process to get them back to that perfect spot.
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No clue about other brands, but in regards to the Formula Four familly the Conical Full shape has the best riding surface/diameter ratio with 21mm for the 52mm one (the smallest diameter available in this shape)

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/

But you should rather ask that in the dedicated wheels thread.

Great question
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Post by: HyperBeam on March 15, 2022, 10:58:08 PM
what's the deal with 6 hole baseplates? shouldn't they have 8 holes?
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Post by: Mean salto on March 15, 2022, 11:08:47 PM
what's the deal with 6 hole baseplates? shouldn't they have 8 holes?
8 holes would let you move the truck forwards and backwards to change the wheelbase. But the 6 holes are because boards used to have wider mounting holes for the trucks. then I think in the early 90s companies made them smaller (what most boards have today) because wheels got smaller and nose and tail sides became popular and would break the outer hardware. so trucks just had six holes to accommodate whatever holes drilled the board has. I think only reissues really use the wider set mounting now.
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Post by: HyperBeam on March 16, 2022, 02:55:39 PM
I always assumed it was to adjust wheelbase
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Post by: jimgrude on March 16, 2022, 06:13:57 PM
Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.

Mob, and pretty much every other grip, is significantly thicker than Jessup.
I haven't weighed them, and you certainly won't notice a difference in weight, but the feel is very different.
I personally can't stand the feel of thick griptape, to the point that I say no to free shop grip.
Jessup also has much finer grit, and therefore less grip. Perfect for me, as decks only lasts about six sessions for me, so it never gets the chance to wear down much.
If you plan to use the board for a long time, and you don't mind the thick feeling, you should probably get a different brand. Weight won't be an issue, however.
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Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 17, 2022, 02:35:34 AM
Does anyone else remember going out of their way to buy and wear tie dye skate shirts as a grom? It was definitely all the death wish dudes who pushed that right?
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Post by: Mean salto on March 17, 2022, 02:50:02 AM
Does anyone else remember going out of their way to buy and wear tie dye skate shirts as a grom? It was definitely all the death wish dudes who pushed that right?
It was a weird thing that from 05 to 15 just kept coming up over and over. I think before death wish was maybe Shane cross and Jake Duncombe (but that may of been way more of an Aus thing). I never did it but I had one of those black shirts that had sort of bleach stains on it. There were definatly tuf years skating where the whole crew would be in tie dye shirt, skinny jeans/cut offs, new era hat with Jimbo Jones hair out the sides and probably some horrible fallens with pattern material
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Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 17, 2022, 03:06:17 AM
Does anyone else remember going out of their way to buy and wear tie dye skate shirts as a grom? It was definitely all the death wish dudes who pushed that right?

100% that was some phase, see a lot of em in footage before my time in the local scene (06-08) and then in other US based videos around the same era. tie dye, orange beanies etc. jonathan pierce was rocking it pretty hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_o5fRTudrg

man that part still goes pretty hard
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on March 17, 2022, 04:05:10 AM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Mob, and pretty much every other grip, is significantly thicker than Jessup.
I haven't weighed them, and you certainly won't notice a difference in weight, but the feel is very different.
I personally can't stand the feel of thick griptape, to the point that I say no to free shop grip.
Jessup also has much finer grit, and therefore less grip. Perfect for me, as decks only lasts about six sessions for me, so it never gets the chance to wear down much.
If you plan to use the board for a long time, and you don't mind the thick feeling, you should probably get a different brand. Weight won't be an issue, however.
I'm a Jessup guy, it feels perfect to me though I'm not a board breaker at all.

I'm just curious in a world of titanium/hollow things what could be the weight difference between two grip tapes. :)

Thanks for the reply anyway!
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Post by: braksabbath on March 17, 2022, 12:50:16 PM
Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on March 17, 2022, 01:19:28 PM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.

I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?
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Post by: Solex on March 17, 2022, 01:36:32 PM
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?
Thx @braksabbath !

The smart move is probably to weight the backing paper when the grip job is done. :D

Do you think a dedicated thread would be worth it?

P.s : could someone tell me how can I actually mention a member with @ please?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 17, 2022, 01:37:24 PM
OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?


Asked the people I used to skate with. They claimed we all started sizing up, out of the 40s, in 1995. I looked up some old ccs catalogs and there some wheels, alien in particular, that were 56 ish. I remember wearing tsa shorts, the very first run of Osiris shoes, and skating a Gino with 60mm wheels. This is post EE3. Totally fucked kit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on March 17, 2022, 01:38:34 PM
is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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Post by: thanksgiving on March 17, 2022, 01:42:01 PM
is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
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Post by: braksabbath on March 17, 2022, 01:44:20 PM
is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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Post by: Easy Slider on March 17, 2022, 01:56:17 PM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?
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Thx @braksabbath !

The smart move is probably to weight the backing paper when the grip job is done. :D

Do you think a dedicated thread would be worth it?

P.s : could someone tell me how can I actually mention a member with @ please?

@Solex  just start slowly typing the username after the @ and the usernames appear, which you can select.
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Post by: Solex on March 17, 2022, 02:21:11 PM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?
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Thx @braksabbath !

The smart move is probably to weight the backing paper when the grip job is done. :D

Do you think a dedicated thread would be worth it?

P.s : could someone tell me how can I actually mention a member with @ please?
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@Solex  just start slowly typing the username after the @ and the usernames appear, which you can select.
Yeah, that's the usual method, but it doesn't work for me on Slap, either on desktop or mobile device. Maybe I have to reach 100 posts or something like that...

Thx

is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
Always used that :
(https://cdn.autodoc.de/thumb?id=15778096&m=0&n=0&lng=fr&ccf=94077826)
It sucks...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 17, 2022, 03:29:37 PM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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this is pure gold lol. there was a skater who was setting up a new board and he borrowed my silver tool to mount his venture lows. it didn't seem to be an issue or difficult for him
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2022, 04:31:51 PM
is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off


There are a number of skate tools that have a thin shaft, which all work well, brands include Modus, Spitfire, Ace, Independent, Bronson, along with some of those more high tech options which have the ratchet part too, such as Skatepro, Silver, and a couple of brands I cannot find right now just from a "skate tool" google search.


This sort of look:


(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/modus-utility-skate-tool-black-01.png)



This is one that I have that really fits into every gap (including Venture Low hangers on some boards I recently set up), having the thinnest shaft of all, but as it is a pull apart tool, sometimes that can be annoying.  I got a number of them from an ebay seller a long time ago for really cheap and they hold up pretty well, being all metal.  I did glue the two main parts together just so I didn't have them coming apart while using though.


(http://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H5528abae03c74feeada908d7a15331beb.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Crabby_Bastard on March 17, 2022, 06:12:30 PM
OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 17, 2022, 06:19:41 PM
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi

I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 17, 2022, 06:20:19 PM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
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Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.

I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Post by: jakeumms on March 17, 2022, 08:17:26 PM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
[close]

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
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I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 08:29:29 PM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
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I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
the best tool
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 17, 2022, 10:04:34 PM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
[close]

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
[close]

I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
[close]
Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?

I like this theory
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 17, 2022, 10:26:05 PM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
[close]

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
[close]

I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
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I like this theory
What were vert skaters riding?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: nitro89 on March 18, 2022, 01:48:59 AM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
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I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
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the best tool

for the venture guys (like me) just buy a 3/8" spanner for the hardware and use an elastic band to hold it to your normal tool to keep them together in your bag when you don't need them. its not rocket science.
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Post by: Mean salto on March 18, 2022, 02:07:25 AM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
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I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
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the best tool
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for the venture guys (like me) just buy a 3/8" spanner for the hardware and use an elastic band to hold it to your normal tool to keep them together in your bag when you don't need them. its not rocket science.
Little shifter wrench or diamond bolts come with a little spanner (or at least used to) altho these options do mean you have to turn the Allen key
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Post by: rocklobster on March 18, 2022, 02:33:04 AM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
[close]

I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
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the best tool
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for the venture guys (like me) just buy a 3/8" spanner for the hardware and use an elastic band to hold it to your normal tool to keep them together in your bag when you don't need them. its not rocket science.
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Little shifter wrench or diamond bolts come with a little spanner (or at least used to) altho these options do mean you have to turn the Allen key

Like a goddamn animal
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 18, 2022, 02:42:06 AM
What truck height were we riding in the late 90s?

Can’t remember if I had ventures as a kid. But did most people ride lo‘s or highs? I never payed attention to this.

I know I had grind kings, krux, maybe venture.
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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cant speak on lows but silver tool works fine with venture hi
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I swear by the Spitfire tool, I've broken 3 Silver tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts, rethreading axles or having the ratchet adjustor switch assembly falling out completely.

(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/images/products/products-spitfire-t3-tool.jpg)

Keep it simple, lasts forever. Only downside is the sockets for axle / kingpin nuts are very precise so if you nuts are mushroom-ed out then you're going to need pliers or a wrench. The plastic Unit tool has a bit for allowance for the nut so you could cover a mushroom-ed nut at an angle to remove them.
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the best tool
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for the venture guys (like me) just buy a 3/8" spanner for the hardware and use an elastic band to hold it to your normal tool to keep them together in your bag when you don't need them. its not rocket science.
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Little shifter wrench or diamond bolts come with a little spanner (or at least used to) altho these options do mean you have to turn the Allen key
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Like a goddamn animal

kids these days should have strong enough thumbs to finally be able to turn said allen key with all the social scrolling they do on there phones. ;D 
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2022, 05:58:37 AM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
[close]

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
[close]

I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
[close]
Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
[close]

I like this theory
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What were vert skaters riding?


During the small wheel era that is all most of them could get their hands on, so from at least one interview, they said "they went from six ft airs to barely two ft airs and had to pump their guts out on every goddamn wall" or something like that.

Then when anything slightly larger came back in they were all back on the bigger wheels, although some still skated wheels that were smaller than average for the tech vert era.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 18, 2022, 06:01:29 AM
it's not about the strength
it just make grip all wrinkled around the bolts heads
looks ugly

Silver tool doesn't work correctly on Venture ( especially on los)
and it's just an allaround shitty tool (metal used for the bit is way too soft)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: nitro89 on March 18, 2022, 06:13:15 AM
it's not about the strength
it just make grip all wrinkled around the bolts heads
looks ugly

Silver tool doesn't work correctly on Venture ( especially on los)
and it's just an allaround shitty tool (metal used for the bit is way too soft)

I've always poked through and cut the grip back to the size of the hole, not just poked through it before cranking the bolts down like a lot of people do and ive never had a wrinkle or build up of grip using the old allen key and spanner on my ventures. technique can go along way.

i like my board to look clean from the top, I cant deal with fucked up or graphic grip so a load of bunched up grip around the bolt holes would be a straight no-no for me.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 18, 2022, 06:25:05 AM
Opinions on shop griptapes? Are they really skating different than mob or jessup ?
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Post by: BALARGUE on March 18, 2022, 06:28:51 AM
yes you're right, cutting the grip is an extra step though
i just poke through back and forth (my own technique consisting of shaping grip inside the holes) and tighten with the tool from the bottom, works like a charm

grip build up around the holes madness here too ahha
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2022, 06:54:37 AM
What truck height were we riding in the late 90s?

Can’t remember if I had ventures as a kid. But did most people ride lo‘s or highs? I never payed attention to this.

I know I had grind kings, krux, maybe venture.


Most of the trucks I have from around those times were still about normal height, eg 52 to 53 mm tall with many still carrying the six hole baseplates from Indy, Thunder and Venture.

There were also Grind King, Destructo and quite a few others just coming up in the market too, which if I recall correctly were also about that same height.

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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 18, 2022, 08:17:39 AM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
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Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
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I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
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I like this theory
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What were vert skaters riding?
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During the small wheel era that is all most of them could get their hands on, so from at least one interview, they said "they went from six ft airs to barely two ft airs and had to pump their guts out on every goddamn wall" or something like that.

Then when anything slightly larger came back in they were all back on the bigger wheels, although some still skated wheels that were smaller than average for the tech vert era.

I like the theory that nicotine might have been doing custom shapes. I love the theory that they were rolling with old shit even more. FWIW, when big wheels started showing up, Physics aside, almost all of them were a "classic" shape. However, as per this wild picture of Freddy from a 1996 AWS ad, he is running what look like some big old wheels that look pretty conical to me:

https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665 (https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665)

So maybe it was old wheels? Someone has to know. Maybe I'll DM Sergei or someone (like a man).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2022, 08:23:32 AM
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
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Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
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I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
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I like this theory
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What were vert skaters riding?
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During the small wheel era that is all most of them could get their hands on, so from at least one interview, they said "they went from six ft airs to barely two ft airs and had to pump their guts out on every goddamn wall" or something like that.

Then when anything slightly larger came back in they were all back on the bigger wheels, although some still skated wheels that were smaller than average for the tech vert era.
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I like the theory that nicotine might have been doing custom shapes. I love the theory that they were rolling with old shit even more. FWIW, when big wheels started showing up, Physics aside, almost all of them were a "classic" shape. However, as per this wild picture of Freddy from a 1996 AWS ad, he is running what look like some big old wheels that look pretty conical to me:

https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665 (https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665)

So maybe it was old wheels? Someone has to know. Maybe I'll DM Sergei or someone (like a man).

Jesus. That ad. ❤️
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
[close]

Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
[close]

I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
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I like this theory
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What were vert skaters riding?
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During the small wheel era that is all most of them could get their hands on, so from at least one interview, they said "they went from six ft airs to barely two ft airs and had to pump their guts out on every goddamn wall" or something like that.

Then when anything slightly larger came back in they were all back on the bigger wheels, although some still skated wheels that were smaller than average for the tech vert era.
[close]

I like the theory that nicotine might have been doing custom shapes. I love the theory that they were rolling with old shit even more. FWIW, when big wheels started showing up, Physics aside, almost all of them were a "classic" shape. However, as per this wild picture of Freddy from a 1996 AWS ad, he is running what look like some big old wheels that look pretty conical to me:

https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665 (https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665)

So maybe it was old wheels? Someone has to know. Maybe I'll DM Sergei or someone (like a man).
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Jesus. That ad. ❤️

they designed/tore out this spot fairly recently didn't they?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 18, 2022, 08:51:20 AM
Why do shoe companies put technology names on the outside of the shoe? It’s not a big deal, but the Tiagos could do without that kind of thing.
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Post by: LewFarrell on March 18, 2022, 10:01:07 AM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?

Comparing brands at the same size could be a way to see differences.

Here are some more weights, all sheets are pre-cut 9x33 with backing.

Jessup Ultra - 109.4g
MOB - 115.4g
Black Magic -107.1g
Jessup Ultra Clear - 119.9g
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 18, 2022, 10:02:45 AM
Why do shoe companies put technology names on the outside of the shoe? It’s not a big deal, but the Tiagos could do without that kind of thing.
Tech branding. Makes it easier for new development marketing to resonate and gives reps/floor staff selling points. Very prominent in other gear oriented industries.

I agree tho, shoes in general could use less of it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2022, 10:26:32 AM
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Why do shoe companies put technology names on the outside of the shoe? It’s not a big deal, but the Tiagos could do without that kind of thing.
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Tech branding. Makes it easier for new development marketing to resonate and gives reps/floor staff selling points. Very prominent in other gear oriented industries.

I agree tho, shoes in general could use less of it

Counterpoints: tech shoe, from someone that embraces a 90s look (when tech features really took off), like ERS/air/hexalite/gel/torsion, etc.

I prefer the look of a LRAB, but for Tiago?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 18, 2022, 10:46:44 AM
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Why do shoe companies put technology names on the outside of the shoe? It’s not a big deal, but the Tiagos could do without that kind of thing.
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Tech branding. Makes it easier for new development marketing to resonate and gives reps/floor staff selling points. Very prominent in other gear oriented industries.

I agree tho, shoes in general could use less of it
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Counterpoints: tech shoe, from someone that embraces a 90s look (when tech features really took off), like ERS/air/hexalite/gel/torsion, etc.

I prefer the look of a LRAB, but for Tiago?
I'm 50/50 on it. I dislike when they write the technology name on a part of the shoe that isn't that technology. I think the new ishods say react on the outsole but it's the insole that has the react. There were also a bunch of people who mistakingly thought they had lunarlon insoles but the lunarlon was inside the actual midsole of the shoe and the shoe just had ortholote or something worse for insoles (Prod 567, one shots, lunar janoski etc)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 18, 2022, 10:50:52 AM
Opinions on shop griptapes? Are they really skating different than mob or jessup ?

There can’t be that many factories making grip tape. I used some Tactics grip and it was perfectly comparable to normal Jessup.
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Post by: Solex on March 18, 2022, 01:06:09 PM
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Dumb question : has anyone ever weighted different kind of grip tapes? I'd be really curious to know the difference between Jessup vs Mob for example.
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Just weighed- sheet of Jessup, 9"x34" with backing paper still on, is 116g/4oz.
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I love you took the time to do this, but various backings are used for grip. Unless you unpeel the grip, how do you know for sure?
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Comparing brands at the same size could be a way to see differences.

Here are some more weights, all sheets are pre-cut 9x33 with backing.

Jessup Ultra - 109.4g
MOB - 115.4g
Black Magic -107.1g
Jessup Ultra Clear - 119.9g
Thanks!

Interesting. So it seems that there shouldn't be any significant weight difference between grip tapes, unless some unexpected backing paper variations.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2022, 02:13:42 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high
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Post by: Mean salto on March 18, 2022, 08:41:15 PM
Favorite vulc shoes (maybe just favorite shoe altogether) is the classic vans era. I've had like fifty pairs but haven't bought a pair since 2015 or something so they might be different now. People always talk about a vulc cup hybrid and I think these are actually the closest (well any vans classic) obviously they are as vulc feeling as can get but the way vans does it your foot sits well inside the sole. Plus the heel/arch has sort of a hard rubber shank so it feel sort of stiff at the back. If you're a tech insole person tho maybe don't bother.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nth syd bear on March 18, 2022, 09:00:56 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high

Rowans are my favourite vans vulcs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2022, 09:36:08 PM
Thank you both
Skating suede eras now, good, obviously super durable, sweaty, I’m bad with heelflips and these don’t help, kickflips are great.
Haven’t tried Rowan’s yet.
Thanks again
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthunderw on March 18, 2022, 10:20:45 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high
I mainly skate cupsoles and one of the few vulcs I've made do with in recent times was the New Balance 306, I think it's a pretty big departure from the feeling of Vans.  I'd also consider the new Ishod nike shoe, it's supposed to be a sort of hybrid with a high-quality insole. I haven't tried Blazers but I'm sure I'd dig them as well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on March 18, 2022, 10:37:33 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high
LRAB with footprint insoles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 18, 2022, 10:43:35 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high

Kalis Vulc - lots of colorways, materials (suede, leather, canvas) and it's Kalis
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2022, 10:50:25 PM
I appreciate all of the replies. Nb makes a quality shoe. LRAB is finally starting to show up in shops again. It’s been forever since I’ve had a blazer, they look good/skate good, sweaty tho, but are maybe the best. The Kalis vulc isn’t my thing, looks wise…but goddamn that Will Marshall kickflip over the cab was soooooo good.

Thanks for all of the ideas.
Rn I’m too hurt that I wrote hear, instead of here. Brutal.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on March 20, 2022, 05:42:17 PM
Favorite vulc shoe? I’ll get all righteous about only skating cupsoles because I’m super old and brittle…and hear I am. With shoes I like to change things up, often. Anyways, any vulc recommendations welcomed. I don’t skate anything higher than knee high
last resort ab are great shoes, i've only skated the canvas vm001 lo but i absolutely loved that pair. when they reach the end, i'm definitely getting another pair.
adidas copa nationale are also pretty nice, though a bit tighter feeling than the lrab
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on March 20, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
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adidas copa nationale are also pretty nice, though a bit tighter feeling than the lrab
and also very much not a vulc.
The emerica wino slip on g6 and the dickson shoe are really good, state's are good.
I used to love the griffin sole from lakai, but i haven't skated the paramount they use now.
also haven't skated the new vans skate line, but pretty sure they get the job done too.

all of these have really good insoles as well, except for the griffin.
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 20, 2022, 06:52:43 PM
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adidas copa nationale are also pretty nice, though a bit tighter feeling than the lrab
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and also very much not a vulc.
The emerica wino slip on g6 and the dickson shoe are really good, state's are good.
I used to love the griffin sole from lakai, but i haven't skated the paramount they use now.
also haven't skated the new vans skate line, but pretty sure they get the job done too.

all of these have really good insoles as well, except for the griffin.

I got a pair of the dicksons and I couldn’t believe how fuckin heavy they are. They weigh more than my pair of Sk8-his, they’re like bricks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: milk.razor on March 20, 2022, 07:01:19 PM
Are the new AVE’s considered a cup sole? I’ve worn original busenitz for years but the ave looks kinda similar, thought of trying it out. Don’t know anything about shoes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 20, 2022, 07:10:43 PM
Are the new AVE’s considered a cup sole? I’ve worn original busenitz for years but the ave looks kinda similar, thought of trying it out. Don’t know anything about shoes

The AVE’s are a cup. And I very much recommend them. Great shoe.

Thanks to all for the vulc recs!
I got some chuck 70s, and 92 halfcabs. The 92s will have to wait…they are from uprise a few years back, and this sounds dumb, but they are all white the black tongue and look too good for me to just fuck them up sucking at some slow flatground.
I’m looking at trying some Kalis vulcs.
My whole vulcanized shoe trip is wanting something that helps the flick, sure, but I also noticed that I tend to skate on the balls of my feet, not try and slam my tricks down, and I also skate for a shorter amount of time which helps me feel less jacked the next day. Blah blah.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on March 20, 2022, 07:14:59 PM
how do yall deal with scratchy jeans?
down with the look but my inner thighs are on fire
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Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 20, 2022, 08:09:03 PM
how do yall deal with scratchy jeans?
down with the look but my inner thighs are on fire

i avoid em
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on March 20, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
They are cup, and they're absolutely fucking amazing to skate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on March 21, 2022, 07:45:57 AM
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is there a good tool that can reach mounting bolts on venture lows without taking the entire hangar off
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There are a number of skate tools that have a thin shaft, which all work well, brands include Modus, Spitfire, Ace, Independent, Bronson, along with some of those more high tech options which have the ratchet part too, such as Skatepro, Silver, and a couple of brands I cannot find right now just from a "skate tool" google search.


This sort of look:


(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/modus-utility-skate-tool-black-01.png)



This is one that I have that really fits into every gap (including Venture Low hangers on some boards I recently set up), having the thinnest shaft of all, but as it is a pull apart tool, sometimes that can be annoying.  I got a number of them from an ebay seller a long time ago for really cheap and they hold up pretty well, being all metal.  I did glue the two main parts together just so I didn't have them coming apart while using though.


(http://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H5528abae03c74feeada908d7a15331beb.jpg)
Is the hex on the end of said skinny shaft KP size?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on March 21, 2022, 07:59:14 AM
how do yall deal with scratchy jeans?
down with the look but my inner thighs are on fire

If by scratchy, you mean no stretch, stiff-assed unwashed denim, I been wearing that shit since I got outta diapers and my skin is now so tough I wear them out from the inside.

Real answer: they break in. I did declare on day 3 of my last pair of stiff new dungarees “THEY’RE TEARING ME APART!”
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on March 21, 2022, 10:53:26 AM
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Is the hex on the end of said skinny shaft KP size?

That's what I was wondering. Looks like it. Why else would they have a hole on the socket end, looks like it fits the screwdriver for a t-handle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 22, 2022, 01:36:50 AM
I had a few pairs of suede Busenitz which were dope but now I have a pair of beige leather ones which look great but are extremely stiff/sturdy so much that they make my flick foot hurt. I thought they‘d break in but they won‘t. Anyone else got that problem with the leather ones or is it that particular colorway?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0530/6115/7047/products/[email protected]?v=1611416389)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 22, 2022, 02:52:49 AM
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Is the hex on the end of said skinny shaft KP size?
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That's what I was wondering. Looks like it. Why else would they have a hole on the socket end, looks like it fits the screwdriver for a t-handle

The skinny handle fits into the kingpin socket of the handle. the screwdriver / allen key thing inserts through the handle to hold the skinny handle in place using a magnet (small button thing in the middle).

Same design as the AF1 tool

https://shop.acetrucks.com/products/ace-af1-skate-tool

Anyone know the size for a kingpin and axle rethreader? I went with a very solid (albiet clunky) re-threader, I'm looking for the AF1 size and just the nut that fits into the socket. Ideally something I can pick up from a hardware store.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2022, 04:04:06 AM

Is the hex on the end of said skinny shaft KP size?


That's what I was wondering. Looks like it. Why else would they have a hole on the socket end, looks like it fits the screwdriver for a t-handle



I never thought of that, but I checked it today and it is not the same size.  The tool hex part is too big.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2022, 04:09:41 AM

Anyone know the size for a kingpin and axle rethreader? I went with a very solid (albiet clunky) re-threader, I'm looking for the AF1 size and just the nut that fits into the socket. Ideally something I can pick up from a hardware store.



The kingpin rethreader is 3/8" NF24 and the axle rethreader is 5/16" NF24 both available from ebay for about $10 each.

Should have just copy and paste from these posts, but I found that the die works better than the nut for overall better performance, but the nut still works well enough for most solid kingpins, just not so well on hollow kingpins:


If anyone is interested, I can pass on exactly where I got them, or you can look them up yourself.

Kingpin 3/8" UNF 24
Truck axle 5/16" UNF 24

You can often leave off the U so just NF 24 too, for some listings, eg 3/8 NF 24 RETHREADER NUT.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQpPFyflbl-/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ7o6j4ljEX/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on March 22, 2022, 09:09:47 PM
i almost feel embarrassed to ask this:
when wheels wear down, where does the material actually go? it can't get stuck on the ground, because unless they're really shitty wheels there isn't a trail of anything.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 22, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
I think it does go on the ground but it's such a small amount at a time it's unnoticeable. How long does it take to wear down a mm of wheel? You probably lose 1/100 of a mm in an entire session spread of however far you've been skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on March 22, 2022, 09:47:01 PM
All wheel dust goes to heaven
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 22, 2022, 10:56:55 PM
When are you done with a set of wheels? Besides flatspots
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Post by: whale on March 23, 2022, 01:37:31 AM
i almost feel embarrassed to ask this:
when wheels wear down, where does the material actually go? it can't get stuck on the ground, because unless they're really shitty wheels there isn't a trail of anything.
Microplastics, man  :'(
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on March 23, 2022, 04:39:59 AM
When are you done with a set of wheels? Besides flatspots
When riding gets too hard. Finland is rough so can't be riding these streets with 50mm wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 23, 2022, 07:52:12 AM
When are you done with a set of wheels? Besides flatspots

If the edges of the wheel get really chunky after slappies, I’ll switch em out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: art hellman on March 23, 2022, 08:00:20 AM
I had a few pairs of suede Busenitz which were dope but now I have a pair of beige leather ones which look great but are extremely stiff/sturdy so much that they make my flick foot hurt. I thought they‘d break in but they won‘t. Anyone else got that problem with the leather ones or is it that particular colorway?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0530/6115/7047/products/[email protected]?v=1611416389)

in my experience, leather differs for each colorway/model.  sometimes the leather is sooooo soft and comfy, and then sometimes, yea, it's stiffer than suede.  it's always a gamble. 
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Post by: Easy Slider on March 23, 2022, 12:12:45 PM
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I had a few pairs of suede Busenitz which were dope but now I have a pair of beige leather ones which look great but are extremely stiff/sturdy so much that they make my flick foot hurt. I thought they‘d break in but they won‘t. Anyone else got that problem with the leather ones or is it that particular colorway?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0530/6115/7047/products/[email protected]?v=1611416389)
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in my experience, leather differs for each colorway/model.  sometimes the leather is sooooo soft and comfy, and then sometimes, yea, it's stiffer than suede.  it's always a gamble.

Yeah it‘s a pity, they looked so nice. Now that I have skated them for a few sessions they don‘t look nice anymore but I had to retire them prematurely and get suede ones. They‘re like slippers compared to the leather ones.
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Post by: realbasedgod112 on March 23, 2022, 03:29:46 PM
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i almost feel embarrassed to ask this:
when wheels wear down, where does the material actually go? it can't get stuck on the ground, because unless they're really shitty wheels there isn't a trail of anything.
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Microplastics, man  :'(
better make the switch back to steel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on March 23, 2022, 03:35:34 PM
Am I insane for wanting $30 titanium bolts for inverted kingpin when grade-8 steel is $3 at the hardware store

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-Inch,34338.html
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on March 23, 2022, 03:48:05 PM
Am I insane for wanting $30 titanium bolts for inverted kingpin when grade-8 steel is $3 at the hardware store

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-Inch,34338.html

Nah, I have these same ones. They're light, low, and last forever.  ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: milk.razor on March 23, 2022, 05:13:16 PM
Does anyone have experience going from Busenitz to the AVE? I’ve been skating the former so long it kinda feels like cheating on a spouse. Plus ive been skating more this spring and got a lot of tricks back, dont wanna mess up a good thing… probably overthinking it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 23, 2022, 06:15:45 PM
Does anyone have experience going from Busenitz to the AVE? I’ve been skating the former so long it kinda feels like cheating on a spouse. Plus ive been skating more this spring and got a lot of tricks back, dont wanna mess up a good thing… probably overthinking it

It’s been a really long time since I’ve had the Busenitz. The AVE, for me, is superior in every way, save looks. The AVE is one of my favorite shoes to skate, so take that with a heaping pile of salt. Seems to be a bit divisive, for some the shoe just doesn’t work/blows out really quick. For me, it’s an incredibly stable shoe, that is as ‘high performance’ as I would want, light, good board feel, etc. I don’t ‘love’ the look.
I played soccer forever, the Busenitz appeals to me, visually, a lot. However, there is a significant amount of heel drop, and the forefoot is not padded enough for me. It’s been way too long for me to recall, years and years, but I just remember feeling like the balls of my feet were getting hot from slapping the ground/board. The AVE is very neutral, far less heel drop (again, opinion, I haven’t measured/haven’t read that this is true, just my ‘feeling’), and just felt good, in lots of situations: I walked lots miles in them, ended up going on some jogs/sprints wearing them, bikes, etc. Just all around good shoe, good ventilation too. Just don’t love the look. Im so repetitive.
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Post by: milk.razor on March 23, 2022, 06:32:03 PM
Thanks a lot for that. I don’t love the look either, thinking about the butternut colorway.. Def feel you about the balls of the feet heatin up on the busenitz. Thats exactly where my last few pairs have worn down before anywhere else.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on March 23, 2022, 06:44:38 PM
Thanks a lot for that. I don’t love the look either, thinking about the butternut colorway.. Def feel you about the balls of the feet heatin up on the busenitz. Thats exactly where my last few pairs have worn down before anywhere else.

I had like 4 pairs of busenitz a couple years ago. Loved how they skated just found the stitching in the Ollie area ripped super fast. I’d shoegoo that seam while they were still new
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 23, 2022, 07:06:14 PM
I’ve been on some vulc kick lately, and blast thru shoes/or more realistically the shoes begin to feel so sloppy that they are painful to wear. I’ve been wanting to try the busenitz vulc (as well as the Shane’s…which I would only admit, with the anonymous nature of this board). Few years late to that party. The Busenitz vulc looks more stable, as someone with Bambi ankles, stability is a big deal. I’d rather murder the bottoms of my feet, than stack insoles that make the whole shit tippy. With AVE’s, I felt very in the shoe, not on top. Which was nice.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 24, 2022, 07:06:36 AM
How long can a deck sit for until it starts to warp? Or, related to that - how can you avoid warping? Is warping inevitable?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 24, 2022, 07:39:32 AM
Do all of you people riding IKP realllllly do that many smiths and feebles to necessitate it? My experience with them ended up so poorly I can’t imagine why anyone would use em.
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OK, this has been on my mind quite a bit as of late:

During the era when Eastern Exposure 3 was being filmed, where was everyone in Philly getting big wheels from? The video came out in 1996, and I assume most of the footage was from 1994-1995. I remember it being nearly impossible to find big wheels in catalogs or the local shops until at least mid-1996, and I am guessing that video is what made them popular. I was also a little kid so maybe I am just misremembering, but I feel pretty sure of it.

Was everyone skating deadstock slimeballs or something?
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Th super small wheels took over around Summer of 1991 but bigger wheels started coming back around 1993/94. The tiny wheels fad was brutal and felt like it lasted a lifetime.
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I don’t remember big wheels being even an option, until like 1995.
It’d be funny if the real reason Serge and them were claiming no powerslide hill bombs, was because they were all on old bullet 66s that didn’t slide.
It’s pretty incredible, how much better gear is now. Trucks and wheels specifically.
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Earliest Nicotine Wheels ad I can find with a half-assed search is 1997 is from 1995 but while they definitely had some huge wheels in their catalog later on, they were putting out standard sizing at first, at least according to their ads. Resse Forbes rode for them around the time of EE3 so maybe they were getting big wheels made special by Nicotine or Eastern Urethane?
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I like this theory
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What were vert skaters riding?
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During the small wheel era that is all most of them could get their hands on, so from at least one interview, they said "they went from six ft airs to barely two ft airs and had to pump their guts out on every goddamn wall" or something like that.

Then when anything slightly larger came back in they were all back on the bigger wheels, although some still skated wheels that were smaller than average for the tech vert era.
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I like the theory that nicotine might have been doing custom shapes. I love the theory that they were rolling with old shit even more. FWIW, when big wheels started showing up, Physics aside, almost all of them were a "classic" shape. However, as per this wild picture of Freddy from a 1996 AWS ad, he is running what look like some big old wheels that look pretty conical to me:

https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665 (https://warmupzone.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/fredalienposter.png?w=665)

So maybe it was old wheels? Someone has to know. Maybe I'll DM Sergei or someone (like a man).

OK, sorry for the self quote but in the Big Wheel Appreesh thread, this got posted:

Scroll through:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbfQ3yDO6Y9/?utm_medium=copy_link

I was looking through the comments and saw this:

"Fisher started that whole thing w/ the 68mm bombers. Used to skate w/ him almost every weekend back then"

Assuming maybe that means Powell Bombers? I hit the dude who posted the comment up so we shall see. Either way I am elated that this mystery feels a little closer to being solved.

Edit: homie confirmed it was Powell Bombers and that both Jerry Fisher and Fred Gall rode them. So, so unbelievably psyched to have this figured out.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on March 24, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
I got a sale deck from a shop for $40, gripped it, then noticed it’s pretty warped. Do shops return decks to the board company? They’re small so I don’t to make a thing over it if it’s a hassle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on March 24, 2022, 03:10:11 PM
I mean if it was on sale i would think it would be pretty kooky to complain about it being warped
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Post by: Woodshop on March 24, 2022, 06:10:07 PM
How long can a deck sit for until it starts to warp? Or, related to that - how can you avoid warping? Is warping inevitable?
I got a sale deck from a shop for $40, gripped it, then noticed it’s pretty warped. Do shops return decks to the board company? They’re small so I don’t to make a thing over it if it’s a hassle


Although there has been a significant amount of info from people like Paul Schmitt - PS Stix owner and others, it seems there is no definite answer to this, as some boards have just warped beyond my ability to weight them down and return them to semi straight, but almost any other normal board that is either still in shrink or at least stored out of direct sunlight and away from an excess of hot or cold conditions should still maintain the initial form.

Even from having a number of boards up around a hot metal walled shed, almost none of them have warped, which is surprising, as I was thinking that many of them would have had issues with the heat and being hung vertically.

Normally any other board that is still to be skated will hold up just fine being stored flat, either in boxes of about the same concave or in stacks where the longest board is on the bottom, so they are all resting on their middles, not the tips of the ends of smaller boards, if that makes sense.


I have boards I bought new that are maybe almost twenty years old that I know of, as well as other boards I picked up second hand from way earlier than that, that have no issues at all and still skate fine.

On the other side, one of the guys I know always leaves his boards in the car and they always warped quite quickly, no matter how old or what brand of wood.  If you are going to leave boards in a car, they are best in a board box, or at the very least, wrapped in something to prevent them getting too hot and warping.


On the fixing them side of things, sometimes it is best to weight them down under something, even with offset flex, which I have had fairly good success at warping boards back to flat, or at least to the point where I can ride them and not know they were warped from the feel of it.

Having a stack of old boards or even a couple of old boards to sit on top and then bricks or something else sitting on that and left for a week in warmer weather or longer in colder weather usually makes a difference to boards I have had.  I just did one not too long ago and was going to put up something on it soon enough, then saw these questions, so that is good timing.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 25, 2022, 12:19:15 PM
Kinda curious- are there pros who leave a truck sponsor and do not just buy Indy's? It seems when pros buy their own shit or retire they almost always just get Indy's unless DLX is sending em a box and toss some Thunders in.
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Post by: doomstation55 on March 25, 2022, 12:36:26 PM
I know Converse sizing is weird, I fit in 11 for fastbreaks and the academy highs, but 11 was too small for checkpoints.

I want to get the CTAS pro hi, should I stick to 11 or size up to 11.5?
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 25, 2022, 12:41:04 PM
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How long can a deck sit for until it starts to warp? Or, related to that - how can you avoid warping? Is warping inevitable?
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Although there has been a significant amount of info from people like Paul Schmitt - PS Stix owner and others, it seems there is no definite answer to this, as some boards have just warped beyond my ability to weight them down and return them to semi straight, but almost any other normal board that is either still in shrink or at least stored out of direct sunlight and away from an excess of hot or cold conditions should still maintain the initial form.

Even from having a number of boards up around a hot metal walled shed, almost none of them have warped, which is surprising, as I was thinking that many of them would have had issues with the heat and being hung vertically.

Normally any other board that is still to be skated will hold up just fine being stored flat, either in boxes of about the same concave or in stacks where the longest board is on the bottom, so they are all resting on their middles, not the tips of the ends of smaller boards, if that makes sense.


I have boards I bought new that are maybe almost twenty years old that I know of, as well as other boards I picked up second hand from way earlier than that, that have no issues at all and still skate fine.

On the other side, one of the guys I know always leaves his boards in the car and they always warped quite quickly, no matter how old or what brand of wood.  If you are going to leave boards in a car, they are best in a board box, or at the very least, wrapped in something to prevent them getting too hot and warping.


On the fixing them side of things, sometimes it is best to weight them down under something, even with offset flex, which I have had fairly good success at warping boards back to flat, or at least to the point where I can ride them and not know they were warped from the feel of it.

Having a stack of old boards or even a couple of old boards to sit on top and then bricks or something else sitting on that and left for a week in warmer weather or longer in colder weather usually makes a difference to boards I have had.  I just did one not too long ago and was going to put up something on it soon enough, then saw these questions, so that is good timing.

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

I sincerely hope that one day we don't see you posting anti-LGBTQ+ rants in a thread about Ishod's new sock sponsor.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on March 25, 2022, 01:41:47 PM
Will DLX do a VX/Flight type board?
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Post by: JugeL on March 25, 2022, 03:05:46 PM
I know Converse sizing is weird, I fit in 11 for fastbreaks and the academy highs, but 11 was too small for checkpoints.

I want to get the CTAS pro hi, should I stick to 11 or size up to 11.5?
Normally 8,5-9, CTAS hi 8
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Post by: Woodshop on March 25, 2022, 03:55:38 PM

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

I sincerely hope that one day we don't see you posting anti-LGBTQ+ rants in a thread about Ishod's new sock sponsor.


Ha yeah that would certainly be a drop into madness, but as much as you could say I am all kinds of crazy, it is ONLY ever skateboard madness, never anything else.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 25, 2022, 04:42:15 PM
How do you keep your board from curving to one side? My board wants to go to the left and it just ends up boomeranging back to me in a circle. Makes backside flips hard as the board is already angled left.
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Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2022, 05:22:06 PM
Will DLX do a VX/Flight type board?

I doubt it, their regular 7-ply decks sell themselves without the gimmicks. The most they will do are some slick bottoms.

They used to do Low Pro constructions that were ultra steep but nothing with carbon fiber inserts.
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Post by: bbk on March 25, 2022, 07:42:40 PM
How do you keep your board from curving to one side? My board wants to go to the left and it just ends up boomeranging back to me in a circle. Makes backside flips hard as the board is already angled left.
Loosen your trucks. rotate the bushings and break them in. Pretty much all boards will turn some if you shoot out, but it shouldn't matter when you're on the board, you do the steering.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on March 25, 2022, 07:58:35 PM
Why are forged baseplates always lower than cast baseplates?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 25, 2022, 08:31:35 PM
Brands claim it’s to “preserve the pop feel” since they’re decently lighter. I find this to be bullshit as I’ve skated every cast/forged variant and they don’t have the same pop feel.

It’s likely because forging usually allows for a harder alloy and can be done more exacting in most cases than cast and they are too lazy to just make them all the same. People mostly buy forged for the weight savings too so they’re not really trying to add material to get them the same height.
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Post by: Crabby_Bastard on March 25, 2022, 11:12:38 PM
Kinda curious- are there pros who leave a truck sponsor and do not just buy Indy's? It seems when pros buy their own shit or retire they almost always just get Indy's unless DLX is sending em a box and toss some Thunders in.

I don't know about that but I do know some pros who skated for Indy but actually rode Thunders.
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Post by: JugeL on March 26, 2022, 03:53:26 AM
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I don't know about that but I do know some pros who skated for Indy but actually rode Thunders.
Crob still often says that he is on Indy but has been riding Thunders for couple years now for example
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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 26, 2022, 06:19:28 AM
Brands claim it’s to “preserve the pop feel” since they’re decently lighter. I find this to be bullshit as I’ve skated every cast/forged variant and they don’t have the same pop feel.

It’s likely because forging usually allows for a harder alloy and can be done more exacting in most cases than cast and they are too lazy to just make them all the same. People mostly buy forged for the weight savings too so they’re not really trying to add material to get them the same height.


Pushing the WB out is what's done to attempt to "preserve" or compensate for the pop feel. The lower height (or more specifically, the thinner baseplate) is to lower the weight.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on March 26, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
I feel like we had that topic before, but anyway..

What kind of wheels slide better? Those with a narrow contact patch or those with a wide contact patch? Does it matter if the wheels have squared or rounded sidewalls?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 26, 2022, 04:23:41 PM
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Brands claim it’s to “preserve the pop feel” since they’re decently lighter. I find this to be bullshit as I’ve skated every cast/forged variant and they don’t have the same pop feel.

It’s likely because forging usually allows for a harder alloy and can be done more exacting in most cases than cast and they are too lazy to just make them all the same. People mostly buy forged for the weight savings too so they’re not really trying to add material to get them the same height.
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Pushing the WB out is what's done to attempt to "preserve" or compensate for the pop feel. The lower height (or more specifically, the thinner baseplate) is to lower the weight.

Halfway correct- to get the tail to hit the ground at the same time the plate has to be lower if it is moved back. Just moving back would raise the deck angle only and make pop heavier.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 26, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
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I don't know about that but I do know some pros who skated for Indy but actually rode Thunders.

Who? In most cases that I’ve seen a pro will buy Indy’s, like Jerry Hsu who skated for Thunder and Royal his whole career.
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Post by: Fooj on March 26, 2022, 06:09:18 PM
I feel like we had that topic before, but anyway..

What kind of wheels slide better? Those with a narrow contact patch or those with a wide contact patch? Does it matter if the wheels have squared or rounded sidewalls?

Front blunts and a couple different kinds of crooks are my daily ledge go-tos, imo classics are 10x easier to slide blunts with than conical fulls. Classics also seem to glide thru crooks way longer than the more square wheels, I find that conical, tablets and even radials dig into crooks and Slow the grind down. 
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Post by: TwisT on March 26, 2022, 06:15:06 PM
Anyone know the fit on the new DC Manteca? Slim or wide? The last DC I had were the legacy slim. They were a little snug
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Post by: Ok on March 26, 2022, 06:29:27 PM
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I don't know about that but I do know some pros who skated for Indy but actually rode Thunders.
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Who? In most cases that I’ve seen a pro will buy Indy’s, like Jerry Hsu who skated for Thunder and Royal his whole career.

You want the setup of jerry now? Or then?
To your point there has been a few that go the indy route, Raymond would be another.
Not interestingly I was thinking of my favorite styles of all time, very few are indy riders.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 26, 2022, 06:54:18 PM
Reynolds, Penny, early Guy (at times), BA, AO, Arto, Jake Johnson, Heath, Howard, Reese, modern AVE, there’s a lot of Indy riders with legendary styles. Venture wasn’t quite as big in the Street Corner era and Thunder sponsors everyone that has a pulse plus lots of the people I listed had other sponsors but still rode Indy’s or only recently got on another brand.
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Post by: Uncle Flea on March 26, 2022, 07:08:30 PM
I been looking at these boutique store listings for dark red chukka boots for a couple years now. I wish I had the stones to take a chance on these shoes. The money too.

My questions are why did van’s cancel the chukka boot.

Is lyst.com legit because I want these shoes even though they got Little v logos all over them.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 26, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Lyst is a legit discount site. I dunno why Vans cancelled the Chukka I see the lows a ton and saw so many people wearing them when they were in the lineup. They’d sell well across the board but instead we have the Wayvee and Berle pros.
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Post by: Ok on March 26, 2022, 07:32:09 PM
Reynolds, Penny, early Guy (at times), BA, AO, Arto, Jake Johnson, Heath, Howard, Reese, modern AVE, there’s a lot of Indy riders with legendary styles. Venture wasn’t quite as big in the Street Corner era and Thunder sponsors everyone that has a pulse plus lots of the people I listed had other sponsors but still rode Indy’s or only recently got on another brand.

No doubt, some absolute legends on Indys. But those aren’t my faves. Not saying my faves are better, arguably, they are not, just saying, just to say.
I’ve said it before, but indy has always functioned as a bit of a baseline/yardstick, the standard (not the company ‘standard’) from which to measure other products against. Indy is also possibly the best ‘all arounder’. I’m sure I could set some up and they wouldn’t be my worst trucks.
Whenever I ride them, I always want something to be a little…different. A personal problem.
I think Koston is one of the only ones I can think of that skated for Indy, whilst skating different companies trucks. I’m sure there has been a few others…
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Post by: Mean salto on March 26, 2022, 07:54:11 PM
I think the problem with vans chukka boot is they were a bit more effort than they're worth. Gotta basically unlace them to get them off and then crank the laces to keep them tight. Because of the kinda weird shape your foot can move around inside the shoe a lot. The 106 is kinda like a low version that don't have any of those problems. Chukka lows from the actual skate line don't have much in common apart from the name.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 27, 2022, 08:57:40 AM



Anybody knows if the oval team logos have the same shape as the full se‘s?
Asking cause I saw an old real insta post and they said :

Pressed on scaled molds built off real full size decks.“

I‘m confused. Are they just as full as full se‘s?
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Post by: goodatmeth on March 27, 2022, 10:47:10 AM



Anybody knows if the oval team logos have the same shape as the full se‘s?
Asking cause I saw an old real insta post and they said :

Pressed on scaled molds built off real full size decks.“

I‘m confused. Are they just as full as full se‘s?

I think you're confusing it with the new scaled down real (oval) decks. There are 2 new small shapes with 12 or 13" wheelbases I think. For very small people and kids.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 27, 2022, 11:05:16 AM
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Anybody knows if the oval team logos have the same shape as the full se‘s?
Asking cause I saw an old real insta post and they said :

Pressed on scaled molds built off real full size decks.“

I‘m confused. Are they just as full as full se‘s?
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I think you're confusing it with the new scaled down real (oval) decks. There are 2 new small shapes with 12 or 13" wheelbases I think. For very small people and kids.

Oh now it makes sense!

But would be so good if real would make average logo boards full se.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 11:47:02 AM
Then there would be no incentive to buy the pro shapes, which cost more.
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Anybody knows if the oval team logos have the same shape as the full se‘s?
Asking cause I saw an old real insta post and they said :

Pressed on scaled molds built off real full size decks.“

I‘m confused. Are they just as full as full se‘s?
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I think you're confusing it with the new scaled down real (oval) decks. There are 2 new small shapes with 12 or 13" wheelbases I think. For very small people and kids.
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Oh now it makes sense!

But would be so good if real would make average logo boards full se.

Then there would be no incentive to buy the pro shapes, which cost more.


I thought that they are all the same RRP, be it the team or the pro boards in R1, Full SE construction, no matter what the shape, with the slick surfaced boards being a bit more and the oversized boards also being a bit more, that is anything that is up in the bigger or shaped 9+ sizes from DLX. 

The only ones that are different are the Pricepoint boards, which are lower RRP but also lower quality.


As you did say though, being the Full SE which is seen to be a more unique board, they don't do those in team graphics and keep them for the more specific pro boards, in the same way the new shorter shapes are very specific graphics so they keep them separate to the other normal team boards.

Overall quite a smart way to do things.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 07:32:38 PM
The oval shapes are cheaper in the US at least at the locals I go to one of which being DLX.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2022, 08:09:10 PM
The oval shapes are cheaper in the US at least at the locals I go to one of which being DLX.


So is this about right (from a few shops I checked):

Pricepoints around US $45

Team boards around $60

Normal other boards, both R1 and Full shapes anywhere from $61 to $66 for most (not including sale boards, which were as low as $50 for any and all pro boards)

Bigger boards / specials $66 to $69


I had seen what is curious prices from some sellers / shops, but just put it down to the current cost, eg when things went up here, everything went up from maybe AU$100 to $110 or AU$130 to $140 and some boards ended up at $149.99 for the bigger sizes or the slicks, which reminded me of early to mid 2000s prices.

That is still fairly normal overall, but there didn't seem like such small differences, in either the wholesale costs or the RRP they put on things.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 09:09:04 PM
Yah the Ovals are sold as price points. That’s why I said if they put the Full SE on there there wouldn’t be an incentive to buy a more expensive deck as only thr $60-65 team and pro models have it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2022, 10:22:35 PM

So from looking them up, the Real Oval logo I was referring to were in the team deck cagegory, not the pricepoints, which is a whole different level of quality and look and even feel of board, so for people in AU it is about $30 difference, but for US people, it is more an average of about $15 difference.

Team (including Eagles and Ovals) decks which have the same setup and quality as all the other pro boards (two top stained and one bottom) are around $60

Pricepoint (all raw / natural wood) with generic graphics, all around $45


Any other pro boards in any shape or construction (same wood as Team decks) all around $61 to $66



I just thought that might help some people, as there is a distinct difference, as said, between team and pricepoint boards, but no difference between team and pro boards.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2022, 10:25:27 PM
How long can a deck sit for until it starts to warp? Or, related to that - how can you avoid warping? Is warping inevitable?
I got a sale deck from a shop for $40, gripped it, then noticed it’s pretty warped. Do shops return decks to the board company? They’re small so I don’t to make a thing over it if it’s a hassle


Although there has been a significant amount of info from people like Paul Schmitt - PS Stix owner and others, it seems there is no definite answer to this, as some boards have just warped beyond my ability to weight them down and return them to semi straight, but almost any other normal board that is either still in shrink or at least stored out of direct sunlight and away from an excess of hot or cold conditions should still maintain the initial form.

Even from having a number of boards up around a hot metal walled shed, almost none of them have warped, which is surprising, as I was thinking that many of them would have had issues with the heat and being hung vertically.

Normally any other board that is still to be skated will hold up just fine being stored flat, either in boxes of about the same concave or in stacks where the longest board is on the bottom, so they are all resting on their middles, not the tips of the ends of smaller boards, if that makes sense.


I have boards I bought new that are maybe almost twenty years old that I know of, as well as other boards I picked up second hand from way earlier than that, that have no issues at all and still skate fine.

On the other side, one of the guys I know always leaves his boards in the car and they always warped quite quickly, no matter how old or what brand of wood.  If you are going to leave boards in a car, they are best in a board box, or at the very least, wrapped in something to prevent them getting too hot and warping.


On the fixing them side of things, sometimes it is best to weight them down under something, even with offset flex, which I have had fairly good success at warping boards back to flat, or at least to the point where I can ride them and not know they were warped from the feel of it.

Having a stack of old boards or even a couple of old boards to sit on top and then bricks or something else sitting on that and left for a week in warmer weather or longer in colder weather usually makes a difference to boards I have had.  I just did one not too long ago and was going to put up something on it soon enough, then saw these questions, so that is good timing.


I took a while to get this up, but it is a rainy day so I am getting a few things like this done, that I didn't do when it was nicer weather outside.


Fixing warped decks:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbopOttpt0i/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on March 28, 2022, 06:38:46 AM
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Brands claim it’s to “preserve the pop feel” since they’re decently lighter. I find this to be bullshit as I’ve skated every cast/forged variant and they don’t have the same pop feel.

It’s likely because forging usually allows for a harder alloy and can be done more exacting in most cases than cast and they are too lazy to just make them all the same. People mostly buy forged for the weight savings too so they’re not really trying to add material to get them the same height.
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Pushing the WB out is what's done to attempt to "preserve" or compensate for the pop feel. The lower height (or more specifically, the thinner baseplate) is to lower the weight.
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Halfway correct- to get the tail to hit the ground at the same time the plate has to be lower if it is moved back. Just moving back would raise the deck angle only and make pop heavier.

I think you misunderstood. The poster asked:

Why are forged baseplates always lower than cast baseplates?

You said it was to preserve pop feel, but that's just not true. Forged baseplates are lower than cast to save weight. Forging doesn't result in any significant weight savings, it just allows the baseplate to maintain strength while being thinner and resulting in a lower height. It has nothing to do with preserving pop feel, as lowering a lighter truck is going make it feel even lighter.

To compensate for the lower hight (again, lower in the interest of less metal/physical weight), the axle gets pushed out to add heft to the pop. I agree that it doesn't quite do the trick, but that is what they're going for.

If they made forged plates the same height as cast, there wouldn't be any real weight savings AND they would be gross to a huge market share (as forged plates tend to be).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 28, 2022, 12:59:38 PM
What weight is a standard skateboard, plus/minus?
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Post by: braksabbath on March 28, 2022, 01:14:40 PM
What weight is a standard skateboard, plus/minus?
My 8.5/Indy 149/52mm conical full setup is 93oz, friend's 8.0/Indy 139/53mm radials is 86oz. I thought my madness was cured but riding the 8.0 makes me want to size back down. I don't know where that 6oz is coming from when it's really just .125" extra wood and steel on either side of the deck and axles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 28, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
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What weight is a standard skateboard, plus/minus?
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My 8.5/Indy 149/52mm conical full setup is 93oz, friend's 8.0/Indy 139/53mm radials is 86oz. I thought my madness was cured but riding the 8.0 makes me want to size back down. I don't know where that 6oz is coming from when it's really just .125" extra wood and steel on either side of the deck and axles.

Cheers, and interesting indeed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 29, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
Anyone have/ had those converse fast breaks? Wanna give a mini review? Also would love a cut in half pic like weartested if some one has a dead pair and too much time on their hands (not actually expecting this)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 30, 2022, 09:12:30 AM
What weight is a standard skateboard, plus/minus?

I have 4 set ups, all built differently, and they're all between 83-93oz. So based on this and the other pals response ~5.5 pounds is maybe a good average?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 30, 2022, 10:24:49 AM
Anyone have/ had those converse fast breaks? Wanna give a mini review? Also would love a cut in half pic like weartested if some one has a dead pair and too much time on their hands (not actually expecting this)

They're not bad. They're gorgeous shoes on foot, I had a pair of the white/emerald/gum. The flick is great, but the issue is that I ordered them online and I wish I had tried them on in a shop beforehand since the sizing was off. As a result I didn't skate them too much. Cons sizing seems to be infamously off-kilter, so I'd try them on to make sure your foot is snug enough.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on March 30, 2022, 12:09:35 PM
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They're not bad. They're gorgeous shoes on foot, I had a pair of the white/emerald/gum. The flick is great, but the issue is that I ordered them online and I wish I had tried them on in a shop beforehand since the sizing was off. As a result I didn't skate them too much. Cons sizing seems to be infamously off-kilter, so I'd try them on to make sure your foot is snug enough.

I had 2 pairs and really liked them. First pair were all leather, super faint pink, non-skate version that took a while to break in but lasted very well. I can’t remember what insole they had. Second pair was skate version, gum sole, some canvas. Quicker break in, came with a cons insole I really liked. Can’t speak to flick - not my thing. My takeaway: Soles last pretty well, don’t bag out, skate insole (lunarlon?) was good, TTS
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on March 30, 2022, 04:42:07 PM
Does ventures or steep kicks make you feel more  cramped?

I have been skating and 8.8 creature stumps with 149  thunders and conical regs. Loving it. Kick flips are consistent and it feels good. But madness got me and I decided I needed a more tech friendly set up. So I set up 5.6 cast ventures with some old  53 (51mm now) spit classics on an almost deck with steep kicks mellow concave. And I figured this would be great. But I feel so cramped on it. And my flip tricks are less consistent and my Ollie’s are rocketed. This is due to the kicks you guys think? Like I feel like my legs are so close together.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on March 30, 2022, 05:04:45 PM
depends on how you pop
i personally dont jump with my legs that far apart
short wheelbase and ventures works perfectly for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 30, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
Is the sizing on Grosso mids the same as the regular Vans(non skate/pro shoes)?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2022, 07:30:30 PM
Is the sizing on Grosso mids the same as the regular Vans(non skate/pro shoes)?


It is a bit yes and a bit no, but the Vans Shoes thread has a good amount of info from a search in that thread, such as these two posts below:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750


got a pair of the forest green grosso mids. first new vans in a few years..

they're super nice and fit same as my other 10.5 vans from over the years. all the skate improvements are very solid on these. feels like the quality the pro classics had from 2013-2015 or so

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Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
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Damn, as a Sk8-hi guy I was looking at the old skools as a secondary shoe. I noticed with the newer Vans that I have to wear thinner socks or go up a half size in the case of slip ons.

I just got a pair of the Grosso Mids, they look and feel sick but they're either a tiny bit more snug or my feet are swollen from skating yesterday  :(
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I would be thinking they are a tiny bit more snug.

Try some old insoles in them at first if you have any, as that has helped with a lot of newer shoes that are too tight to start with, even the almost blown out old insoles will give a much better break in with those shoes than trying to just make them work.

Then when the shoe is well worn put the new insoles back in and it will feel like you have a newer pair of shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on March 31, 2022, 12:43:32 AM
Does ventures or steep kicks make you feel more  cramped?

I have been skating and 8.8 creature stumps with 149  thunders and conical regs. Loving it. Kick flips are consistent and it feels good. But madness got me and I decided I needed a more tech friendly set up. So I set up 5.6 cast ventures with some old  53 (51mm now) spit classics on an almost deck with steep kicks mellow concave. And I figured this would be great. But I feel so cramped on it. And my flip tricks are less consistent and my Ollie’s are rocketed. This is due to the kicks you guys think? Like I feel like my legs are so close together.

Yes, but that not necessarily a bad thing. I usually skate the dlx 8.5 31.8 14.25 shape (which measures more like a 14.2) on 5.8 ventures. I'm 6ft5 so thats pretty short for me.

I definitely get less room to drag up for ollies, and my ability to skate really tall ledges and my max pop are definitely worse than on a board thats more proportionate to me. My default position on this board leaves my front foot on, or very close to the bolts. Almost always cover some of the front bolts when doing most flip tricks.

But 90% of what I skate is flatground, ledges and flatbars below knee height and I find the short board and short wheelbase very easy to maneuver and less effort to skate. Easier to get tech on. The short board and wb also makes flip tricks tweak out easier with less effort as my flicking foot comes off the end of the board much easier as its a lot closer to the nose.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 31, 2022, 07:42:05 AM
It also depends on the flat before the kicks. I had the DLX 8.28 with 14.12 and it had fairly big kicks with very little flat. I would always feel as if I was skating on the kicks themselves and it felt like a see saw. But I’ve also skated the Chocolate G052 with a 14 WB and it has tons of flat and I didn’t have this issue at all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on March 31, 2022, 08:51:54 AM
Speaking of...
Anybody else trip on the fact that some of us regularly tweak out on such minutia as +/- 1 to 2mm of wheelbase, or width, but still measure the flat between bolts and where the kick starts using the extremely precise scale of "fingers"?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 31, 2022, 09:30:00 AM
I keep decks I like but have retired and/or just lay something over a similar shape in a shop to compare.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on March 31, 2022, 09:40:32 AM
Speaking of...
Anybody else trip on the fact that some of us regularly tweak out on such minutia as +/- 1 to 2mm of wheelbase, or width, but still measure the flat between bolts and where the kick starts using the extremely precise scale of "fingers"?
yeah fingers of flat is the stupidest thing ever, but also i have no better solutions. maybe take a ruler to the bottom of the deck, outer hardware holes and see where the curve starts?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 31, 2022, 10:00:01 AM
@beandemon and @Madam, I'm Adam what was sizing like for you compared to some other example shoes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on April 03, 2022, 06:15:14 PM
When did 99a become the standard
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 03, 2022, 07:27:44 PM
When did 99a become the standard


I feel like only Bones took it a whole lot harder than that back when they became the biggest force in long lasting minimal flatspot skateboard wheels, but for others who have been riding Spitfires or generally more normal ranges of wheels, the 99 has always been the best go to.

A little funny now Bones has taken it back to 99 and quite a few people are going elsewhere within the last few years, so that might be more so the timeframe you are referring to that has really started to come up.

I also feel like the standard of 101+ is often not quite that, as many wheels advertised as 101 or above are more grippy and sticky than most 99 duro wheels, certainly more than the usual Spitfire F4 99 duro wheels.


The other side of it is the "A" scale only goes up to 100 so anything rated higher than that doesn't really fit on the chart anyway, hence the 84B with Bones and some others (that would be about 104a), or even the lower scales of really hard wheels that people often confuse for cruiser wheels.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 03, 2022, 07:42:30 PM
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Is the sizing on Grosso mids the same as the regular Vans(non skate/pro shoes)?
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It is a bit yes and a bit no, but the Vans Shoes thread has a good amount of info from a search in that thread, such as these two posts below:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750


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got a pair of the forest green grosso mids. first new vans in a few years..

they're super nice and fit same as my other 10.5 vans from over the years. all the skate improvements are very solid on these. feels like the quality the pro classics had from 2013-2015 or so
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Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
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Damn, as a Sk8-hi guy I was looking at the old skools as a secondary shoe. I noticed with the newer Vans that I have to wear thinner socks or go up a half size in the case of slip ons.

I just got a pair of the Grosso Mids, they look and feel sick but they're either a tiny bit more snug or my feet are swollen from skating yesterday  :(
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I would be thinking they are a tiny bit more snug.

Try some old insoles in them at first if you have any, as that has helped with a lot of newer shoes that are too tight to start with, even the almost blown out old insoles will give a much better break in with those shoes than trying to just make them work.

Then when the shoe is well worn put the new insoles back in and it will feel like you have a newer pair of shoes.
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Thanks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 03, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
I've been super bummed on my Old Skools. It makes no sense as I skate the Slip Ons and Half Cabs fine, but the Old Skools feel oddly stiff like the midsole never hugs my foot and the flick is worse somehow.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 04, 2022, 02:07:05 AM
When did 99a become the standard

I'd like to take this a bit further, been thinking about this for a long time.

How did we end up with around 52mm standard size, 99a standard durometer? The size seems so arbitrary because if you get used to it you can do everything on 56mm just as well.
How did decks go from huge 10+ inch planks to suddenly 7.5" decks in the 90s? Was it sudden or a smooth transition?
How much experimenting went into ending up at 48-55mm truck height? Were 40mm and 60mm high trucks ever a thing?

I'd also be happy if somebody just tells me some literature about these topics so I can answer it myself.
I'd love to have the history of skating in every little detail, all the gear evolution.
I feel like in the end all the sizes are pretty much arbitrary, it just works and changing shit up sucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 04, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
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I'd like to take this a bit further, been thinking about this for a long time.

How did we end up with around 52mm standard size, 99a standard durometer? The size seems so arbitrary because if you get used to it you can do everything on 56mm just as well.
How did decks go from huge 10+ inch planks to suddenly 7.5" decks in the 90s? Was it sudden or a smooth transition?
How much experimenting went into ending up at 48-55mm truck height? Were 40mm and 60mm high trucks ever a thing?

I'd also be happy if somebody just tells me some literature about these topics so I can answer it myself.
I'd love to have the history of skating in every little detail, all the gear evolution.
I feel like in the end all the sizes are pretty much arbitrary, it just works and changing shit up sucks.
Looking thru old ccs catalogues etc it's actually surprising how diverse the size of boards and wheels always was. Altho that may not be the most dependable source. Even in the 00s there's plenty of bigger boards and wheels on offer. That being said I remember the only shops anywhere near me in the early 00s were mall stores (altho it's kinda different in Aus) and it definatly seemed like the entire wall was either 7.5 or 7.75.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 04, 2022, 08:19:20 AM
I remember Tum Yeto and lots of other rail chomper brands having 8” or 8.25 boards quite often- my friend skated them exclusively from like 1999-2010. I think wheels had more to do with trucks as trucks were often lower then and 52 was about what you could run and not have crazy wheelbite. I don’t remember anyone really caring much about wheels and some park dudes ran risers and 56+.

What I do remember being jarring is I was skating 7.875 exclusively, took 2 years off skating, first session back I cracked my tail and skated to a shop and they had a single deck under 8”. Even then 90% of the stock was 8.25 and up. Memory is fuzzy but around 2012 or 2013 maybe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 04, 2022, 09:00:41 AM
Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on April 04, 2022, 09:15:16 AM
Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.

Go to your local shop or barnes and noble and read it for free like I do.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 04, 2022, 09:23:08 AM
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Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
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Go to your local shop or barnes and noble and read it for free like I do.

That's too much work. I'd rather subscribe, money isn't the issue. I just don't want to see annoying "hellride" articles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 04, 2022, 11:10:52 AM
Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.

I subscribe. It's nice to get something analog in the mail, something light to read that isn't a screen. The writing is as good as ever, probably better. You get a free t-shirt.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 04, 2022, 11:48:39 PM
Anyone ever redrill a deck that already had two sets of bolt holes drilled in it already? Planning on doing this but was wondering if adding a third set would compromise the deck integrity too much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 05, 2022, 07:35:37 AM
Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.

It's no brain busting literature, but I still enjoy having something tangible to flip through once a month.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 05, 2022, 07:52:13 AM
I’m the same way. I still get the print version of The Economist and enjoy it way more than the online version even tho it’s not current to the millisecond. I also prefer actual books to a Kindle unless they’re too heavy and bulky to transport.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on April 05, 2022, 09:01:32 AM
I remember Tum Yeto and lots of other rail chomper brands having 8” or 8.25 boards quite often- my friend skated them exclusively from like 1999-2010. I think wheels had more to do with trucks as trucks were often lower then and 52 was about what you could run and not have crazy wheelbite. I don’t remember anyone really caring much about wheels and some park dudes ran risers and 56+.

What I do remember being jarring is I was skating 7.875 exclusively, took 2 years off skating, first session back I cracked my tail and skated to a shop and they had a single deck under 8”. Even then 90% of the stock was 8.25 and up. Memory is fuzzy but around 2012 or 2013 maybe.

Idk. I seem to recall 8.5 being the upper end for a loooong time. There were bigger decks out there, but 8.5 was the biggest size reliably available. The size trend downward in the 90’s was steeper and more rigid, though. All I know is right now you can get pretty much whatever you want more so than any time in skate history, which is nice.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on April 05, 2022, 09:10:29 AM
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Anyone ever redrill a deck that already had two sets of bolt holes drilled in it already? Planning on doing this but was wondering if adding a third set would compromise the deck integrity too much.
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https://www.chemsfb.com/product/wheelbase-mod

They say that it’s not good to redrill within 1/4 of an inch from the other baseplate holes





Why do my trucks feel tighter on a new board? It could be the same board with the same wheelbase, but my trucks always feel tighter on the new board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on April 05, 2022, 10:30:11 AM
Why do my trucks feel tighter on a new board? It could be the same board with the same wheelbase, but my trucks always feel tighter on the new board

Wild guess, probably BS, but maybe b/c a new board itself is stiffer and less flexible, making the turn feel more rigid. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on April 05, 2022, 12:51:36 PM
Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.

I think it really comes down to how long your average #2 is….. I tend to take my time, so a appreciate a nice mag to flip through rather than looking at my phone.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on April 05, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
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Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
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I think it really comes down to how long your average #2 is….. I tend to take my time, so a appreciate a nice mag to flip through rather than looking at my phone.
And this brings up another good point: how often do you hold the magazine that lives in your bathroom up to the side of your face?
Kinda makes the cost of a subscription seem a little more worthwhile, eh?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Vintagebody on April 05, 2022, 10:44:01 PM
Whats ur guys view on buying decks that have sat on the shelf for a looooooooong time?
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Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 06, 2022, 12:19:49 AM
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Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
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I think it really comes down to how long your average #2 is….. I tend to take my time, so a appreciate a nice mag to flip through rather than looking at my phone.
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And this brings up another good point: how often do you hold the magazine that lives in your bathroom up to the side of your face?
Kinda makes the cost of a subscription seem a little more worthwhile, eh?

I honestly hate having physical stuff since I'm an annoying minimalist. It's a lot of clutter. Wish they had a digital version. I've basically been running exclusively slap for years since i hate physical so much.
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Post by: Woodshop on April 06, 2022, 06:14:07 AM
Whats ur guys view on buying decks that have sat on the shelf for a looooooooong time?


Over the years I have had many boards that have been old stock, from clearance bins or been on a wall for a long time and almost all of them have been fine, with no issues.  Even some I have had on my own walls for almost ten years are still good to go.

This might not always be possible, but check to make sure they are still straight, not warped.  (Even the Krooked boards, but they should be strait.)

If they are still in shrink, even better, but if not, just check to make sure they are still stiff and no delamination or other visible issues across the surfaces, or on the ply layers round the edge.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 06, 2022, 06:37:59 AM
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Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
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I think it really comes down to how long your average #2 is….. I tend to take my time, so a appreciate a nice mag to flip through rather than looking at my phone.
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And this brings up another good point: how often do you hold the magazine that lives in your bathroom up to the side of your face?
Kinda makes the cost of a subscription seem a little more worthwhile, eh?
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I honestly hate having physical stuff since I'm an annoying minimalist. It's a lot of clutter. Wish they had a digital version. I've basically been running exclusively slap for years since i hate physical so much.


They do have an online version as well, don't they?


https://shop.thrashermagazine.com/1-year-digital-edition-subscription.html


Less than $10 for a year if you don't want the paper version.


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Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 06, 2022, 04:23:10 PM
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Is it worth subscribing to thrasher? Last time I had it was in high school and the interviews sucked. I don't even remember most of em. Bunt is more memorable IMO.

Seems like the mag is more relevant for pro's since they are chasing nbd's and photo incentives; it's their livelihood.
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I think it really comes down to how long your average #2 is….. I tend to take my time, so a appreciate a nice mag to flip through rather than looking at my phone.
[close]
And this brings up another good point: how often do you hold the magazine that lives in your bathroom up to the side of your face?
Kinda makes the cost of a subscription seem a little more worthwhile, eh?
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I honestly hate having physical stuff since I'm an annoying minimalist. It's a lot of clutter. Wish they had a digital version. I've basically been running exclusively slap for years since i hate physical so much.
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They do have an online version as well, don't they?


https://shop.thrashermagazine.com/1-year-digital-edition-subscription.html


Less than $10 for a year if you don't want the paper version.

Thanks! Just got a subscription!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 06, 2022, 07:07:19 PM
When did 99a become the standard

I feel like it’s because the ground in the US is in steady decline. Or the F4 shortage at the beginning of Covid was the beginning of the change.

It’s a bummer. I like 101a f4 and would like an even harder wheel in 58 or 60 mm. 64-66mm 101a f4 would be the greatest thing to ever happen in my skateboarding life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on April 07, 2022, 07:12:26 AM
i notice that people who shred have really fucked up shoes. i am not a shredder by any means but i can ollie a foot or so consistently and heelflip fairly consistently as well. neither of these tricks damage the uppers of my shoes, just wear down the rubber.

at first i assumed it was kickflips and tres that were the tricks that damage shoes, but now that I started thinking about it i see people who can barely ollie a curb with big ollie holes.

the question is : does the upper of my shoe *not* getting damaged mean my form is somehow wrong? would be cool to ollie higher so cant hurt to ask
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Post by: tzhangdox on April 07, 2022, 10:32:28 AM
i notice that people who shred have really fucked up shoes. i am not a shredder by any means but i can ollie a foot or so consistently and heelflip fairly consistently as well. neither of these tricks damage the uppers of my shoes, just wear down the rubber.

at first i assumed it was kickflips and tres that were the tricks that damage shoes, but now that I started thinking about it i see people who can barely ollie a curb with big ollie holes.

the question is : does the upper of my shoe *not* getting damaged mean my form is somehow wrong? would be cool to ollie higher so cant hurt to ask

Not necessarily. Kickflips will definitely wear down your toecap. Tres don't really wear shoes out at all.

Often people who can barely ollie a curb have big ollie holes because all they're doing is practicing ollies non stop.

My switch foot gets less wear than my regular foot even if I consciously decide to skate more switch than regular, probably because my form is different and I don't roll my foot as hard. But it doesn't matter as long as it feels fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 08, 2022, 06:05:23 AM
Do your tricks like flips and manuals suffer when you switch between decks with different nose / tail shape / steepness and tiny width differences of let’s say .125 or .25?


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Post by: Mean salto on April 08, 2022, 06:24:24 AM
Do your tricks like flips and manuals suffer when you switch between decks with different nose / tail shape / steepness and tiny width differences of let’s say .125 or .25?
"Suffer" might not always be right. Could actually improve. I personally don't think tiny differences matter with width but nose/tail size and steepness could do something (but even then not that much if it's a tiny difference)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on April 08, 2022, 06:59:04 AM
Not so much a question as an observation, this "Under the Radar" tactics section is actually a pretty solid lineup of product. At least for the brands i usually browse
https://www.tactics.com/under-the-radar-skate-brands
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 08, 2022, 11:14:24 AM
Is the April 8.38 length on their site accurate? Just doesn’t seem to add up with the stated nose, tail, and WB but otherwise sounds good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: keepthefunkalive on April 08, 2022, 06:08:41 PM
Do your tricks like flips and manuals suffer when you switch between decks with different nose / tail shape / steepness and tiny width differences of let’s say .125 or .25?

A slight difference in width takes less time to adjust to. Length takes a little more time if it's longer. If it's different in steepness on the nose it might take me a couple days to get straight kickflips and heelflips down solid.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: keepthefunkalive on April 08, 2022, 09:08:15 PM
Why doesn't Adidas put out more Forums... with suede too. They could get in on some of that dunk money at least if they did it better.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 08, 2022, 09:21:03 PM
Why doesn't Adidas put out more Forums... with suede too. They could get in on some of that dunk money at least if they did it better.
This is kinda the question for every shoe company. They all have enough designs for whatever the next tends is I guess it's just not that quick to make shoes. Vans could start doing a ton of wacky colour halfcabs and bring back the dr ts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on April 08, 2022, 10:38:31 PM
Nice thread...

Is there any value in using FP Gamechangers in cupsole shoes that already have a decent midsole? Skip them or go with the thinner FP in the cup for best of both worlds?

I have had good experiences with them in cupsoles since they seem to last longer than most stock insoles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Yibb-Tstll on April 09, 2022, 02:32:32 AM
Is there any difference between the OJ Hot Juice and the Super Juice? Durometer and size seems the same

I was hesitating for a long time but between the Nick boserio and Pea Franks this week, I'm sold
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on April 09, 2022, 02:52:46 AM
Is there any difference between the OJ Hot Juice and the Super Juice? Durometer and size seems the same

I was hesitating for a long time but between the Nick boserio and Pea Franks this week, I'm sold
i think the only difference is that hot juice are more squared/sharper lip. going to be grippier but also chunk a lot easier
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 09, 2022, 05:32:10 AM
Any idea with trucks simon bannerot skates on the loveseat? Looks like indys in some clips.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 09, 2022, 05:34:27 AM
Any idea with trucks simon bannerot skates on the loveseat? Looks like indys in some clips.
either 149s or 159s either will work, I have film 6.0 on mine!
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Post by: goodatmeth on April 09, 2022, 05:36:02 AM
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either 149s or 159s either will work, I have film 6.0 on mine!
Thanks! if 159s work, I'm hoping it will feel fine with ace AF1 66s, which have a 9" axle but only a 159mm hanger for some reason.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 09, 2022, 06:06:12 AM
Is there any difference between the OJ Hot Juice and the Super Juice? Durometer and size seems the same

I was hesitating for a long time but between the Nick boserio and Pea Franks this week, I'm sold

They both ride the same, but Super Juices are more durable as it's an updated version of the Hot Juices. There's no reason to get Hot Juices unless you're trying to recreate a 70s style board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on April 09, 2022, 06:08:10 AM
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either 149s or 159s either will work, I have film 6.0 on mine!
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Thanks! if 159s work, I'm hoping it will feel fine with ace AF1 66s, which have a 9" axle but only a 159mm hanger for some reason.
will depend how you like your setup and what wheels you ride, I don’t feel like the love seat tapers too much personally, maybe a little at the tail but the nose is much more fuller than say Chico’s model.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 09, 2022, 06:52:26 AM
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either 149s or 159s either will work, I have film 6.0 on mine!
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Thanks! if 159s work, I'm hoping it will feel fine with ace AF1 66s, which have a 9" axle but only a 159mm hanger for some reason.
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will depend how you like your setup and what wheels you ride, I don’t feel like the love seat tapers too much personally, maybe a little at the tail but the nose is much more fuller than say Chico’s model.

Almost positive Simon uses 159s.
I asked this one very talented local what he was using truck wise on his and he said he preferred 8.5” trucks (5.8s), but that it was also in part because that’s the trucks he normally rides.
All to say seems like there are a lot of options with that board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Yibb-Tstll on April 09, 2022, 12:51:35 PM
They both ride the same, but Super Juices are more durable as it's an updated version of the Hot Juices. There's no reason to get Hot Juices unless you're trying to recreate a 70s style board.
i think the only difference is that hot juice are more squared/sharper lip. going to be grippier but also chunk a lot easier

Cool, thanks for the info! I remembered about the Hot Juice chunking issue from an old thread, good to know it got better
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 09, 2022, 10:10:17 PM
Why do shoe companies or the pros kinda pretend that pros have had less pro shoes than they've had? Koston had like 9 shoes on Nike SB and p-rod like 16. Reynolds had like 12 emerica's, Rowleys had 20 vans. TNT has had 8 vans shoes (maybe more) even having two completely different shoes called the TNT 3 and the Trujillo 3
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on April 10, 2022, 06:02:55 AM
Any idea with trucks simon bannerot skates on the loveseat? Looks like indys in some clips.

I’m pretty sure he’s sponsored by pal 144p’s shop. You could hit him up for details.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 10, 2022, 05:05:11 PM
Why did board companies always have a random vert skater? Like what was the value add for Girl to have Colin McKay? I never saw his board in a normal shop and I never recall ever meeting anyone that was super into him or vert. Obviously he’s kind of a legend so it’s not to diminish him but there were a lot of teams back then with just 1 vert dude AWS being another example.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2022, 05:28:09 PM
Why did board companies always have a random vert skater? Like what was the value add for Girl to have Colin McKay? I never saw his board in a normal shop and I never recall ever meeting anyone that was super into him or vert. Obviously he’s kind of a legend so it’s not to diminish him but there were a lot of teams back then with just 1 vert dude AWS being another example.


To cover all aspects of modern skating and trying to be relevant to everyone - that is my guess.

Danny Way and Colin McKay were pretty out there street skaters in their time too, but I guess they will more often be known for their vert or mega ramp skating.

As for most teams having a vert dude or two, for many it was at least a simple way of helping what seemed like the "almost out of a job vert pro" to still get a bit of coverage in an era almost completely dominated by street and tech flat terrain skating, after coming from an almost completely transition based 80s team line up.

There were still a lot more vert skaters than people would like to think of, and people who ride vert generally are not so into riding street pros' decks, mainly for the smaller size boards, but if they can get a board from a company they like in a bigger size, it didn't often matter if it had a vert pro name on it or not.

That was my take on it anyway.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 10, 2022, 06:42:12 PM
Contests still meant something….people who excelled at them were still big name guys ie. Koston, and vert was part of the events. The mags still covered vert and the owners still valued that form of skating….

It wasn’t about board sizes back then….they’d produce a 7.5 Colin McKay and he’d skate an 8…..Rick just liked Colin and he was placing top ten in stuff like Europe contests or Slam City Jam which were a big deal….
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Post by: Fooj on April 10, 2022, 07:38:57 PM
Skating a vert ramp on an 8" sounds terrifying now, but i fully remember that being the norm back then. Wild
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 10, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
If you could find one…..

The pros were no dummies, at the time they willingly asked for a 7.5 because they would sell….8”’s sat on the shelf.   

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 10, 2022, 09:12:08 PM
So why the whole only 7.5-7.75 from 99 to 08. Sure it's what kids/normies bought but they only bought it because it's what was for sale and what they were led to believe it's what the pros were riding.
Save some money on shipping due to weight?
I assume the blank plys of wood were always the same but save material making skinnier trucks and griptape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on April 11, 2022, 12:29:58 AM
whats the best way to ensure that the holes are straight and lined up when redrilling a deck. putting roller skate trucks on so assume that there are no existing holes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on April 11, 2022, 06:38:39 AM
whats the best way to ensure that the holes are straight and lined up when redrilling a deck. putting roller skate trucks on so assume that there are no existing holes.

Wheelbase jig a lá Prof. Schmitt. Other wise: you need a measuring device and preferably a straight edge as long as the outside wheelbase length. The straightedge can be improvised. Find the centerline - find the center in the area where each truck will be. Use a straightedge to make a centerline. Layout your holes, preferably using a square. Use your straightedge to make sure the front and back holes line up. Drill. Alternatively, take the hangers off so you have just the baseplates, lay them out and measure so they’re centered and a straightedge to make sure they’re lined up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 07:45:19 AM
Did The Killing Floor go under? Their site has no decks, IG changed to an archive, and their decks are on sale basically everywhere.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 07:50:23 AM
I always had a theory that the vert dudes didn’t rely as much on board royalties back then but were an easy way to add a deck to a lineup and just sell more. Like if the last Girl in the shop was a McKay and even if you didn’t skate vert but liked him and the brand you’d buy it over something else.

As for deck sizes I do remember seeing BA at the Vans park and he was skating 8.25-8.75 back then. I asked to skate his huge board and he let me for a pretty long time. I thought it was sick and wanted to get the blue fists deck and couldn’t find one that size anywhere so the biggest I could get was I think an 8.25. I loved it but couldn’t nollie heel consistently on it so I was convinced it wasn’t tech enough and went back down to 7.5 and that setup sat in our attic until I went to college. That was 2004 and I skated that thing most of my freshman year at like 2AM to wear off the Adderall and finally someone stole it from my dorm room when I left the door open to do laundry.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 11, 2022, 07:53:33 AM
Did The Killing Floor go under? Their site has no decks, IG changed to an archive, and their decks are on sale basically everywhere.

Hopefully
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 11, 2022, 09:27:14 AM
Did The Killing Floor go under? Their site has no decks, IG changed to an archive, and their decks are on sale basically everywhere.

Two things:
1) I noticed the lack of decks the other day when my tax return came and I was gonna take advantage of their 3-for-$33/each deal and stock up

2) I know multiple women who have that Killing Floor “Grow a Garden” hat, none of whom skate or have any ties to skating
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 09:51:04 AM
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Hopefully

Sorry, but can you elaborate on why you find the company distasteful?
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Post by: Ok on April 11, 2022, 10:20:08 AM
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Hopefully
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Sorry, but can you elaborate on why you find the company distasteful?

To my understanding, it’s basically a graphic designer selling boards.
The graphics are often very striking, well done, but seem to be heavy on the imagery of black musicians of yore, whilst also exhorting to end racism.
And some other stuff.
I’d rather buy, say an alltimers board, with an inside joke spelled in mac n cheese, from a skate clique several generations younger and across the continent, than support some one man band.
But all of that, is based off of my very limited understanding.
Opinions man. I got em.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 10:27:07 AM
They had a team and often did guest boards with fairly revered skaters. It's one man as much as Quasi is.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 11, 2022, 10:36:09 AM
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Sorry, but can you elaborate on why you find the company distasteful?
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To my understanding, it’s basically a graphic designer selling boards.
The graphics are often very striking, well done, but seem to be heavy on the imagery of black musicians of yore, whilst also exhorting to end racism.
And some other stuff.
I’d rather buy, say an alltimers board, with an inside joke spelled in mac n cheese, from a skate clique several generations younger and across the continent, than support some one man band.
But all of that, is based off of my very limited understanding.
Opinions man. I got em.

You’re describing basically every modern skate brand.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 11, 2022, 10:51:32 AM
I think there is a pretty gnarly chasm between quasi, supporting/giving boards to/giving a platform to, the quasi team. And doing a few guest boards. My opinion, is that mr tkf is less of the culture, and more attempting to give hisself a job that he enjoys. Free country as they say.
Little passion projects are great, it’s sick when someone loves something so much they want to make stuff (instead of just criticizing online/whining about what to buy, like me). I think sometimes, it comes off as a little more self serving. And that was the vibe I got from this ‘company’.
The economics of skateboarding do not make sense to me, I also do not understand the economics of really anything, but this entity seemed very comfortable at advocating for self, in a whiny way. That’s enough of that.
There are reasons why companies can spring up and takeover, passion, a collective, a scene, a group/community…Polar changed the scape, I wouldn’t call them a one man band. I don’t buy their stuff as often, sheer ubiquity and wanting to try different stuff, but it’s easy to see why it’s successful. Welcome is probably successful, but kinda gross, to me, so I don’t buy their stuff.
I’m all over the place with it, and it’s not that deep, please continue to stock up on cheap boards, and wear the nice hats.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 11, 2022, 11:04:20 AM
Did The Killing Floor go under? Their site has no decks, IG changed to an archive, and their decks are on sale basically everywhere.
https://www.instagram.com/thekillingfloor/?hl=en

there's 2 ig accounts (a main account which was active a day ago & an archive account). it seems the archives are just purely for art that was put on boards. As to why the site has no decks? not sure what happened to them unless people emptied out their shop as their 3/$100 deal went way longer than I expected. I checked like 2-3 weeks ago and the cart was still applying the deal but I didn't pull the trigger as I have 3 boards already on ice (2 of them being tkf's). They also have a Spring '22 drop on the way
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 05:17:42 PM
Fuck, disregard I am an idiot then.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 11, 2022, 05:20:38 PM
I think there is a pretty gnarly chasm between quasi, supporting/giving boards to/giving a platform to, the quasi team. And doing a few guest boards. My opinion, is that mr tkf is less of the culture, and more attempting to give hisself a job that he enjoys. Free country as they say.
Little passion projects are great, it’s sick when someone loves something so much they want to make stuff (instead of just criticizing online/whining about what to buy, like me). I think sometimes, it comes off as a little more self serving. And that was the vibe I got from this ‘company’.
The economics of skateboarding do not make sense to me, I also do not understand the economics of really anything, but this entity seemed very comfortable at advocating for self, in a whiny way. That’s enough of that.
There are reasons why companies can spring up and takeover, passion, a collective, a scene, a group/community…Polar changed the scape, I wouldn’t call them a one man band. I don’t buy their stuff as often, sheer ubiquity and wanting to try different stuff, but it’s easy to see why it’s successful. Welcome is probably successful, but kinda gross, to me, so I don’t buy their stuff.
I’m all over the place with it, and it’s not that deep, please continue to stock up on cheap boards, and wear the nice hats.

What in fuck's sake are you talking about? It is a skateboard company with a team, videos, and products. It's literally the exact same entity as Quasi just no big name riders and different focus on clothing. The brand is active in several communities and actually has somewhat of it's own design ethos unlike 75% of brands these days. Which, if the dude is a designer and has interest in specific kinds of art makes sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 11, 2022, 07:15:36 PM
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I think there is a pretty gnarly chasm between quasi, supporting/giving boards to/giving a platform to, the quasi team. And doing a few guest boards. My opinion, is that mr tkf is less of the culture, and more attempting to give hisself a job that he enjoys. Free country as they say.
Little passion projects are great, it’s sick when someone loves something so much they want to make stuff (instead of just criticizing online/whining about what to buy, like me). I think sometimes, it comes off as a little more self serving. And that was the vibe I got from this ‘company’.
The economics of skateboarding do not make sense to me, I also do not understand the economics of really anything, but this entity seemed very comfortable at advocating for self, in a whiny way. That’s enough of that.
There are reasons why companies can spring up and takeover, passion, a collective, a scene, a group/community…Polar changed the scape, I wouldn’t call them a one man band. I don’t buy their stuff as often, sheer ubiquity and wanting to try different stuff, but it’s easy to see why it’s successful. Welcome is probably successful, but kinda gross, to me, so I don’t buy their stuff.
I’m all over the place with it, and it’s not that deep, please continue to stock up on cheap boards, and wear the nice hats.
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What in fuck's sake are you talking about? It is a skateboard company with a team, videos, and products. It's literally the exact same entity as Quasi just no big name riders and different focus on clothing. The brand is active in several communities and actually has somewhat of it's own design ethos unlike 75% of brands these days. Which, if the dude is a designer and has interest in specific kinds of art makes sense.

Nah.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 11, 2022, 08:35:07 PM
Would it be okay to drop off shoes at a skateshop?
I’ve dropped off boards and wheels. But would shoes cross a line?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on April 12, 2022, 06:51:03 AM
Would it be okay to drop off shoes at a skateshop?
I’ve dropped off boards and wheels. But would shoes cross a line?

No. People do it at my local, as long as they have life in them and aren't totally disgusting people will be psyched. Skate shoes are expensive.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on April 12, 2022, 11:17:39 AM
People who have shipped boards - what does it cost at USPS?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on April 13, 2022, 04:56:37 AM
Looking to replace my worn Volcom backpack but I bought a 10 inch setup recently. The straps on the Volcom aren't big enough for the deck size and I was wondering if there are any backpacks that have bigger straps so I can carry all of my different sized decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 13, 2022, 05:09:38 AM
People who have shipped boards - what does it cost at USPS?

It really depends on whether or not you cross significant sections of the country. I can ship a deck across the west coast for like $12-15, but if I have to ship something to Florida is jumps to something ridiculous like $30.

You can always lie and ship Media Mail. A skateboard bike is shaped like a box a poster would come in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on April 13, 2022, 06:54:19 AM
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People who have shipped boards - what does it cost at USPS?
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It really depends on whether or not you cross significant sections of the country. I can ship a deck across the west coast for like $12-15, but if I have to ship something to Florida is jumps to something ridiculous like $30.

You can always lie and ship Media Mail. A skateboard bike is shaped like a box a poster would come in.

I would not recommend doing that. It might be less likely now due to staffing issues, but I have had multiple (legitimate) media mail packages opened and inspected.

UPS is cheaper for shipping boards long distance than USPS. There are a few services that do it, but if you have a PayPal account you can use their shipping service to get a cost comparison and print labels if you'd like.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 16, 2022, 05:34:05 AM
Curious if anyone else got into skating from offigawaftika? Lol...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on April 16, 2022, 07:25:43 AM
Anyone have a GoPro and tripod suggestion for a curb skater? Been setting up my phone at the end of the curb with a shoe assist, but my board has hit it multiple times and it’s time to fix that. Thanks Pals!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jowiththeflow on April 16, 2022, 08:49:32 AM
Looking to replace my worn Volcom backpack but I bought a 10 inch setup recently. The straps on the Volcom aren't big enough for the deck size and I was wondering if there are any backpacks that have bigger straps so I can carry all of my different sized decks.

A Snowboard backpack will work for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on April 17, 2022, 12:52:19 AM
Anyone have a GoPro and tripod suggestion for a curb skater? Been setting up my phone at the end of the curb with a shoe assist, but my board has hit it multiple times and it’s time to fix that. Thanks Pals!

Buy a Tripod from Amazon or Walmart: Manfrotto is a good brand.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on April 17, 2022, 01:20:58 PM
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Anyone have a GoPro and tripod suggestion for a curb skater? Been setting up my phone at the end of the curb with a shoe assist, but my board has hit it multiple times and it’s time to fix that. Thanks Pals!
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Buy a Tripod from Amazon or Walmart: Manfrotto is a good brand.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07837W5NX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought this to use as a general tripod/handle and it has a pocket remote too. Overall pretty plasticky but it didn't cost much and it works well. The mount for your phone is spring loaded so it'll fit whatever including a GoPro but those make footage look weird.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 17, 2022, 07:58:48 PM
Are flatter decks more prone to snapping than steeper? I’ve snapped 3/5 of my last decks and it seems only the flatter ones snapped. 2 were DLX wood the other was a fairly old BBS.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on April 17, 2022, 08:26:26 PM
Are flatter decks more prone to snapping than steeper? I’ve snapped 3/5 of my last decks and it seems only the flatter ones snapped. 2 were DLX wood the other was a fairly old BBS.

I think so, at least in terms of how deep the dish is.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 17, 2022, 09:38:18 PM
Concave absolutely provides strength. I don’t know how, or why. Concaved boards always held their pop longer for me as well.

I wish I could break boards. I have several banged out, years old boards. Maybe I should stop only skating flatground.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 17, 2022, 09:42:43 PM
I snapped them on flat. Today was a fakie ollie, one before that was a weird tre flip stomp on the nose, first one was a switch ollie.

Flatness I mean kick steepness sorry. They all have roughly similar concave, but the boards I didn’t break had slightly steeper kicks and less flat before them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 17, 2022, 09:44:12 PM
Also can't exactly say how or why concave increases strength but I think it reduces how much the board flexes up and down. Sort of like if you hold a sheet of paper by the end it will flop down and you can bend it whatever way but if you make it curved like a skateboards concave it stays rigid. Now of course a skateboard isn't as flexible as a sheet of paper so it only has to flex a little bit before it just cracks or snaps
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 17, 2022, 10:53:44 PM
I believe this was the OG reason for concave…..added strength…namely in the 80’s jump ramp days….torsionally the board is stronger…..I actually don’t know what that means….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 18, 2022, 03:13:48 AM
May I refer you guys to the pizza slice effect. Pizza is basically the same as a skateboard in terms of concave.
https://nanoscale.blogspot.com/2020/04/on-flexural-rigidity-of-slice-of-pizza.html (https://nanoscale.blogspot.com/2020/04/on-flexural-rigidity-of-slice-of-pizza.html)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 05:24:34 AM
Professor schmifft broke your boards with fingers of flat!

Makes sense that all the things being equal, boards would break there.

It used to feel pretty pretty good to step through a board occasionally.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 18, 2022, 08:54:16 AM
Can flatspots be so tiny that they can’t be seen?
Was skating my bones stf for the third time in a super slick part (only skated there since having them) and they felt like having a small flatspot, but I couldn’t see anything.

I wondered, cause it’s really super slick there and it’s stf‘s.

But probably they will skate out after a while when that small, right ?





Second question:

Can indies be tightened up with its original bushings that they are venture out the box tight/lose ?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 18, 2022, 09:34:01 AM
Can flatspots be so tiny that they can’t be seen?
Was skating my bones stf for the third time in a super slick part (only skated there since having them) and they felt like having a small flatspot, but I couldn’t see anything.

I wondered, cause it’s really super slick there and it’s stf‘s.

But probably they will skate out after a while when that small, right ?

Yes and yes.

IMO only big flatspots are a thing to worry about since they don't even out all the way and you'll be stuck with the dreaded flatspot sound.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 18, 2022, 09:46:08 AM
Can flatspots be so tiny that they can’t be seen?
Was skating my bones stf for the third time in a super slick part (only skated there since having them) and they felt like having a small flatspot, but I couldn’t see anything.

I wondered, cause it’s really super slick there and it’s stf‘s.

But probably they will skate out after a while when that small, right ?





Second question:

Can indies be tightened up with its original bushings that they are venture out the box tight/lose ?

To me Ventures come loose off center out of the box and then the washer binds. Indy’s tip faster. You can likely get them close but they will never be the same.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 18, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
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Can flatspots be so tiny that they can’t be seen?
Was skating my bones stf for the third time in a super slick part (only skated there since having them) and they felt like having a small flatspot, but I couldn’t see anything.

I wondered, cause it’s really super slick there and it’s stf‘s.

But probably they will skate out after a while when that small, right ?





Second question:

Can indies be tightened up with its original bushings that they are venture out the box tight/lose ?
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To me Ventures come loose off center out of the box and then the washer binds. Indy’s tip faster. You can likely get them close but they will never be the same.

Yeah to me I’d say venture are pretty lose out the box, but some say they are still tight when they ride my deck.


So better get hard bushings to get similar feel?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on April 18, 2022, 11:59:58 AM
i have a pet theory i wanna ask about in here instead of making a new thread. Yknow how wide trucks feel looser than skinnier trucks at the same tightness because of leverage? Is it possible that its easier to skate loose trucks with smaller feet? I know people say it has to do with weight, which makes sense, but i see dudes my size riding much looser trucks than i do, but also their feet are smaller than mine (us 13).

not really making excuses because i prefer medium loose anyways, but i wonder if people who manage to ride looser trucks also have smaller feet because they dont have as much leverage from the top of the deck…..

Also if you like actually know physics please just correct me and tell me to stfu  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on April 18, 2022, 12:04:05 PM
i have a pet theory i wanna ask about in here instead of making a new thread. Yknow how wide trucks feel looser than skinnier trucks at the same tightness because of leverage? Is it possible that its easier to skate loose trucks with smaller feet? I know people say it has to do with weight, which makes sense, but i see dudes my size riding much looser trucks than i do, but also their feet are smaller than mine (us 13).

not really making excuses because i prefer medium loose anyways, but i wonder if people who manage to ride looser trucks also have smaller feet because they dont have as much leverage from the top of the deck…..

Also if you like actually know physics please just correct me and tell me to stfu  ;D

Damnnnnn, that might be true and make a very slight difference. I'm also size 13 and I skate a solid medium, sometimes loose leaning especially if you adjust for weight but wouldn't consider myself a loose trucks skater by any means.

Something unrelated, but kind of on a similar note to this is that I notice it takes a little less effort to break into powerslides if the trucks are a bit skinnier. Like if you have an 8.5 board with 8.25 trucks, it takes less force to break into a powerslide than if you had the same 8.5 board with 8.75 trucks. Probably due to the position of your heel/toe relative to where the wheel is sitting, and the ratio of downward vs sideways force applied. Shit maybe foot size could apply to this too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 18, 2022, 01:33:03 PM
i have a pet theory i wanna ask about in here instead of making a new thread. Yknow how wide trucks feel looser than skinnier trucks at the same tightness because of leverage? Is it possible that its easier to skate loose trucks with smaller feet? I know people say it has to do with weight, which makes sense, but i see dudes my size riding much looser trucks than i do, but also their feet are smaller than mine (us 13).

not really making excuses because i prefer medium loose anyways, but i wonder if people who manage to ride looser trucks also have smaller feet because they dont have as much leverage from the top of the deck…..

Also if you like actually know physics please just correct me and tell me to stfu  ;D

I don't think it would necessarily make it easier to skate them loose.  I have small feet ( US 8 ) and I run medium-medium tight.  I cannot skate loose, I just don't get the appeal.

I do think that much like a larger truck feeling looser that someone with larger feet will make the same setup feel a little looser.  Same idea with the leverage being greater as their weight can be distributed out a little farther from the board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 18, 2022, 01:48:06 PM
Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 03:13:36 PM
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i have a pet theory i wanna ask about in here instead of making a new thread. Yknow how wide trucks feel looser than skinnier trucks at the same tightness because of leverage? Is it possible that its easier to skate loose trucks with smaller feet? I know people say it has to do with weight, which makes sense, but i see dudes my size riding much looser trucks than i do, but also their feet are smaller than mine (us 13).

not really making excuses because i prefer medium loose anyways, but i wonder if people who manage to ride looser trucks also have smaller feet because they dont have as much leverage from the top of the deck…..

Also if you like actually know physics please just correct me and tell me to stfu  ;D
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Damnnnnn, that might be true and make a very slight difference. I'm also size 13 and I skate a solid medium, sometimes loose leaning especially if you adjust for weight but wouldn't consider myself a loose trucks skater by any means.

Something unrelated, but kind of on a similar note to this is that I notice it takes a little less effort to break into powerslides if the trucks are a bit skinnier. Like if you have an 8.5 board with 8.25 trucks, it takes less force to break into a powerslide than if you had the same 8.5 board with 8.75 trucks. Probably due to the position of your heel/toe relative to where the wheel is sitting, and the ratio of downward vs sideways force applied. Shit maybe foot size could apply to this too.

Well shit. Huh.
I thought skinnier trucks felt looser, and I’ve always felt this way. Skinnier trucks turn quicker as well. The farther the wheels are apart, the more stability, no? Like look at a slalom setup. And then a mega ramp setup. I am a moron, and as such, should not be trusted, buuuuut in my mind the bigger lever was the board, not the truck. The wider trucks turn slower, like a 129 vs a 159, 129 has that tighter turning radius. I think that’s why a lot of bowl skaters ran 149s, at most. Wasn’t it Lance who was occasionally on the 139s even?
Maybe that’s not what you all are mentioning.

I have been thinking about shoe size and truck width. But I’m not good at thinking.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 18, 2022, 08:39:07 PM
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i have a pet theory i wanna ask about in here instead of making a new thread. Yknow how wide trucks feel looser than skinnier trucks at the same tightness because of leverage? Is it possible that its easier to skate loose trucks with smaller feet? I know people say it has to do with weight, which makes sense, but i see dudes my size riding much looser trucks than i do, but also their feet are smaller than mine (us 13).

not really making excuses because i prefer medium loose anyways, but i wonder if people who manage to ride looser trucks also have smaller feet because they dont have as much leverage from the top of the deck…..

Also if you like actually know physics please just correct me and tell me to stfu  ;D
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Damnnnnn, that might be true and make a very slight difference. I'm also size 13 and I skate a solid medium, sometimes loose leaning especially if you adjust for weight but wouldn't consider myself a loose trucks skater by any means.

Something unrelated, but kind of on a similar note to this is that I notice it takes a little less effort to break into powerslides if the trucks are a bit skinnier. Like if you have an 8.5 board with 8.25 trucks, it takes less force to break into a powerslide than if you had the same 8.5 board with 8.75 trucks. Probably due to the position of your heel/toe relative to where the wheel is sitting, and the ratio of downward vs sideways force applied. Shit maybe foot size could apply to this too.
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Well shit. Huh.
I thought skinnier trucks felt looser, and I’ve always felt this way. Skinnier trucks turn quicker as well. The farther the wheels are apart, the more stability, no? Like look at a slalom setup. And then a mega ramp setup. I am a moron, and as such, should not be trusted, buuuuut in my mind the bigger lever was the board, not the truck. The wider trucks turn slower, like a 129 vs a 159, 129 has that tighter turning radius. I think that’s why a lot of bowl skaters ran 149s, at most. Wasn’t it Lance who was occasionally on the 139s even?
Maybe that’s not what you all are mentioning.

I have been thinking about shoe size and truck width. But I’m not good at thinking.
I'm also I size 13s guy and have ridden everything from 7.5-10 inch boards with tight to dumb loose trucks. I'm going to agree with the original big feet make trucks looser theory. For somebody with smaller feet setup a really wide board on the smallest trucks you can find. And see how much it changes the leverage. I'm also tall and kinda heavy so I feel like if I lean out and have my body not even over the board I'm getting so much more leverage than the average person.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on April 19, 2022, 02:41:56 AM
I was just wondering this for a while. Nut flush trucks are just unskatable for me. I'm (skinny) 6' 4 and wear 12.5.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hotdogsweatpants on April 19, 2022, 03:26:36 AM
Absolutely novice wheel question here:

Which wheels will revert better on crusty concrete transitions?  Bones SPF or Bones STF?

Background:

I've been skating Bones SPF for coming up on two years.  I skate transition and skate indoor wooden mini ramps/bowls a lot.
Now that the weather is improving, I'm going to start skating outside more again.  My style involves a lot of reverts and I'm wondering if Bones SPF are the best choice for this on old, haggard, British concrete.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 19, 2022, 05:34:07 AM
Absolutely novice wheel question here:

Which wheels will revert better on crusty concrete transitions?  Bones SPF or Bones STF?

Background:

I've been skating Bones SPF for coming up on two years.  I skate transition and skate indoor wooden mini ramps/bowls a lot.
Now that the weather is improving, I'm going to start skating outside more again.  My style involves a lot of reverts and I'm wondering if Bones SPF are the best choice for this on old, haggard, British concrete.

Both will revert really well, you're more likely to slip out with stf and will have more control with spf I'd say.
I've never tried the 81 spf though, only the 84b spf and 99a and 103a stf.
I'd consider 99a stf in a wide shape similar to the 84b spf in terms of control, but the spf are way faster.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on April 19, 2022, 06:17:30 AM
Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
Gigers main setup is a 8 inch revive board with Ace 33 
(not sure if classics or af1)
and the hard Bones bushings.
A friend told me this..
But it seems that this guy has arround 7 setups in his car so..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 19, 2022, 06:22:28 AM
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Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
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Gigers main setup is a 8 inch revive board with Ace 33 
(not sure if classics or af1)
and the hard Bones bushings.
A friend told me this..
But it seems that this guy has arround 7 setups in his car so..
https://youtu.be/WEkBln_1UPg
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on April 19, 2022, 06:32:32 AM
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Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
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Gigers main setup is a 8 inch revive board with Ace 33 
(not sure if classics or af1)
and the hard Bones bushings.
A friend told me this..
But it seems that this guy has arround 7 setups in his car so..
[close]
https://youtu.be/WEkBln_1UPg
There you go.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 19, 2022, 06:57:43 AM
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Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
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Gigers main setup is a 8 inch revive board with Ace 33 
(not sure if classics or af1)
and the hard Bones bushings.
A friend told me this..
But it seems that this guy has arround 7 setups in his car so..
[close]
https://youtu.be/WEkBln_1UPg

Who I’ve never heard of this dude but he looks like he should be a Mario Brothers character/kind of like a weird alt Walker Ryan
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 19, 2022, 06:59:06 AM
Are Spitfire 99 fine for smooth parks? I’m moving and my local park will be Linda Vista in SD. I don’t anticipate caring about skating the bigger transition, but don’t wanna stockpile more Classic Full if they will suck. I’ve been on 52 for forever but have 54 as well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 19, 2022, 07:05:45 AM
Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: nitro89 on April 19, 2022, 07:07:15 AM
Are Spitfire 99 fine for smooth parks? I’m moving and my local park will be Linda Vista in SD. I don’t anticipate caring about skating the bigger transition, but don’t wanna stockpile more Classic Full if they will suck. I’ve been on 52 for forever but have 54 as well.

that's what I'm running pal 54mm f4 99 classics.

My local is glass like smooth compared too the rough British concrete we have when on the streets over here but on either surface they grip fine, roll fast and slide when I want them too. best all round wheel imo.
(just my opinion though but I'm sure they'll be others out there that will agree and disagree with that.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 19, 2022, 07:11:18 AM
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Anybody knows what those super technical flat YouTube guys ride for setups specially board width?

Griffin and Giger
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Gigers main setup is a 8 inch revive board with Ace 33 
(not sure if classics or af1)
and the hard Bones bushings.
A friend told me this..
But it seems that this guy has arround 7 setups in his car so..

Interesting, thanks!




Opinions on the forged titanium indys anyone?
I need a track that I don’t have to worry with what wheelbase or tail lenght is the right one for it. And it should be light.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 19, 2022, 07:12:59 AM
Well they’re light for sure but I didn’t like them as much as other Indy’s. Felt a bit too floaty and the board didn’t suck up to my feet as well or pop as strong. I prefer normal forged hollow to them but currently ride standard hollows and like them the most.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on April 19, 2022, 07:14:07 AM
Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all

He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either (ignore his melon grabs), but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CLuon42hFwK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 19, 2022, 07:20:04 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.

I’m hating a little bit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2022, 07:24:22 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
[close]

I’m hating a little bit.

Nah, his stuff is gross.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 19, 2022, 07:30:34 AM
Well they’re light for sure but I didn’t like them as much as other Indy’s. Felt a bit too floaty and the board didn’t suck up to my feet as well or pop as strong. I prefer normal forged hollow to them but currently ride standard hollows and like them the most.



What do you mean with too floaty?

Can I get those venture out the box tight with their standard bushings or do I need harder bushings ?



And last question : are wider trucks better for manuals ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 19, 2022, 08:21:07 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
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I’m hating a little bit.
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Nah, his stuff is gross.
Is he the biggest skater on earth tho? Maybe if he gets in whatever the next Tony hawk video game is otherwise I don't believe it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on April 19, 2022, 09:20:03 AM
And last question : are wider trucks better for manuals ?

I used to think my manuals were easier on wider wheels until I lost them and got them back on a different setup with skinny wheels

Manuals are about leverage, fulcrum and finding your sweet spot. You can develop some serious board madness to truly understand your sweet spot. Or, or you can have fun and not pursue this route.

I just tell people to put their mind on their truck and balance. Works for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on April 19, 2022, 06:59:46 PM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
[close]

He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
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I’m hating a little bit.
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Nah, his stuff is gross.

Right? I don’t get the && love. Like I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I just don’t get what’s interesting about him? He looks like he would be on revive. And every 40 year old that starts skating again always buys his weird shape board. I’m 36 so I ain’t hating on old dudes getting back into it but why is loving && and getting his custom shape the midlife crisis start skating move?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2022, 10:36:08 PM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
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I’m hating a little bit.
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Nah, his stuff is gross.
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Right? I don’t get the && love. Like I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I just don’t get what’s interesting about him? He looks like he would be on revive. And every 40 year old that starts skating again always buys his weird shape board. I’m 36 so I ain’t hating on old dudes getting back into it but why is loving && and getting his custom shape the midlife crisis start skating move?

Well said. I dunno.
My guess is we live in this odd time, where ‘viral’ content is flown in front of our faces, and that dudes stuff is very quirky/gimmicky. His skating looks like it was made by Reddit. There is also an element that seems dorky and …it’s not as intimidating as seeing some youth do shit that every old person knows they have no chance of doing (I know most can’t do the Andy stuff either, but to me, his stuff seems easier than watching say ‘skater pat’ nonchalantly switch flip a set of stairs that I’d get winded wobbling up).
When I see his board at the park, I know we in a no ollie zone
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Post by: cucktard on April 20, 2022, 06:32:13 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
[close]

I’m hating a little bit.
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Nah, his stuff is gross.
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Right? I don’t get the && love. Like I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I just don’t get what’s interesting about him? He looks like he would be on revive. And every 40 year old that starts skating again always buys his weird shape board. I’m 36 so I ain’t hating on old dudes getting back into it but why is loving && and getting his custom shape the midlife crisis start skating move?
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Well said. I dunno.
My guess is we live in this odd time, where ‘viral’ content is flown in front of our faces, and that dudes stuff is very quirky/gimmicky. His skating looks like it was made by Reddit. There is also an element that seems dorky and …it’s not as intimidating as seeing some youth do shit that every old person knows they have no chance of doing (I know most can’t do the Andy stuff either, but to me, his stuff seems easier than watching say ‘skater pat’ nonchalantly switch flip a set of stairs that I’d get winded wobbling up).
When I see his board at the park, I know we in a no ollie zone

Ok, as someone over 40 who likes Andy and yes, bought the board (not a fan of the graphics, and modified the shape), I will let you in on why he’s popular.

Because I started skating around 85, Grade 4, I think.  It was booming and was cool. I was not. I was perhaps the most unpopular kid at the school.

I thought skating would make me cool.

But as I got into it, read the magazines, I realized that it was a sport for outsiders. You could do it by yourself (which was perfect, as I had no friends until Jr High school). It wouldn’t make me cool, but it allowed me to do a sport with no rules.Make my own fun, and my own tricks.  This is pre-popsicle, beford skating became heavily uniform. All of a sudden, it had lots of rules. Cool tricks (that took a million tries to accomplish, rather than the poetry of a boneless over a curb, which was much more accessible and democratic). Cool clothes, and what became a very rigid mindset that I still see in people who grew up in that era.

If I’m going to generalize, the thrust of the  80’s was about fun (and how creative you could be in its pursuit). The 90’s was about adherence to a form, mastery of tricks. Kind of a polar shift in focus. Video filler in the 80’s shows skaters being weirdos, and having fun. Videos thereafter tended to focus on skaters getting drunk or stoned. Or violent.

Andy for us, reminds us of that more innocent, free time. Before rules and cool guy shit. Gonz is the only one that transitioned and didn’t lose his sense of discovery. Which is why he’s rightly regarded as Skate royalty.

Andy is a nerd, an outcast (because to skate in the 80’s you WERE an outcast, and sometimes beat up for it). We relate to that. Especially an outcast in a sport that used to love outcasts. Now we love people who are increadibly talented, but adhere to ‘cool’ tricks and norms (Ishod, Yuto, most any cookie cutter Street League fare).

Andy consciously knows that is what would get him noticed (he can obviously hang with the best of them in Street and Transition, and could master the tricks) IF HE WANTED. ( Case and point: his 29-stair smith on a rail THAT HADN’T EVEN DRIED OUT FROM THE RAIN. He can be Anti Hero levels if gnar is he wanted to).

But he forgoes all that in pursuit of his own personal fun, and his bizarrely creative approach to it.

He is a spirit animal to us aging skaters whose ideals were forged in the 80’s. And that’s why we love him, despite his horrendous bs airs and helmet. Or maybe because he proudly does it, and doesn’t give a shit about optics.

Which caused the tastemakers of skating to basically blacklist him. You can’t get into Thrasher skating street if you have a helmet. So the only avenue left to him was to film with people who looked past his weirdness. For better or worse, it was YouTube skaters who put him on. If you don’t like that, tough shit. Andy had a pro board coming out and the mags wouldn’t let him in. So he found another way, and is arguably more popular because of it.

The modern tight-ass ‘rules and regulations’ skate scene drove Andy to YouTube. That mentality caused this. Not Andy, who just wants to be his weird, soft self.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 20, 2022, 06:41:51 AM
Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all


Andy Anderson has a type of skating that is bound to be much more interesting for the general public than watching another kid in SoCal do another variation on a rail that's been skated a million times. And I guarantee you that kid can do a switch flip as well and as big as most pros (obviously not Tiago, or other skaters famous for their switch flips), in fact I'd wager my life savings that he's got a better switch game than someone like Milton.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 20, 2022, 06:49:39 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
[close]

I’m hating a little bit.
[close]

Nah, his stuff is gross.
[close]

Right? I don’t get the && love. Like I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I just don’t get what’s interesting about him? He looks like he would be on revive. And every 40 year old that starts skating again always buys his weird shape board. I’m 36 so I ain’t hating on old dudes getting back into it but why is loving && and getting his custom shape the midlife crisis start skating move?
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Well said. I dunno.
My guess is we live in this odd time, where ‘viral’ content is flown in front of our faces, and that dudes stuff is very quirky/gimmicky. His skating looks like it was made by Reddit. There is also an element that seems dorky and …it’s not as intimidating as seeing some youth do shit that every old person knows they have no chance of doing (I know most can’t do the Andy stuff either, but to me, his stuff seems easier than watching say ‘skater pat’ nonchalantly switch flip a set of stairs that I’d get winded wobbling up).
When I see his board at the park, I know we in a no ollie zone
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Ok, as someone over 40 who likes Andy and yes, bought the board (not a fan of the graphics, and modified the shape), I will let you in on why he’s popular.

Because I started skating around 85, Grade 4, I think.  It was booming and was cool. I was not. I was perhaps the most unpopular kid at the school.

I thought skating would make me cool.

But as I got into it, read the magazines, I realized that it was a sport for outsiders. You could do it by yourself (which was perfect, as I had no friends until Jr High school). It wouldn’t make me cool, but it allowed me to do a sport with no rules.Make my own fun, and my own tricks.  This is pre-popsicle, beford skating became heavily uniform. All of a sudden, it had lots of rules. Cool tricks (that took a million tries to accomplish, rather than the poetry of a boneless over a curb, which was much more accessible and democratic). Cool clothes, and what became a very rigid mindset that I still see in people who grew up in that era.

If I’m going to generalize, the thrust of the  80’s was about fun (and how creative you could be in its pursuit). The 90’s was about adherence to a form, mastery of tricks. Kind of a polar shift in focus. Video filler in the 80’s shows skaters being weirdos, and having fun. Videos thereafter tended to focus on skaters getting drunk or stoned. Or violent.

Andy for us, reminds us of that more innocent, free time. Before rules and cool guy shit. Gonz is the only one that transitioned and didn’t lose his sense of discovery. Which is why he’s rightly regarded as Skate royalty.

Andy is a nerd, an outcast (because to skate in the 80’s you WERE an outcast, and sometimes beat up for it). We relate to that. Especially an outcast in a sport that used to love outcasts. Now we love people who are increadibly talented, but adhere to ‘cool’ tricks and norms (Ishod, Yuto, most any cookie cutter Street League fare).

Andy consciously knows that is what would get him noticed (he can obviously hang with the best of them in Street and Transition, and could master the tricks) IF HE WANTED.

But he forgoes all that in pursuit of his own personal fun, and his bizarrely creative approach to it.

He is a spirit animal to us aging skaters whose ideals were forged in the 80’s. And that’s why we love him, despite his horrendous bs airs and helmet. Or maybe because he proudly does it, and doesn’t give a shit about optics.

Which caused the tastemakers of skating to basically blacklist him. You can’t get into Thrasher skating street if you have a helmet. So the only avenue left to him was to film with people who looked past his weirdness. For better or worse, it was YouTube skaters who put him on. If you don’t like that, tough shit. Andy had a pro board coming out and the mags wouldn’t let him in. So he found another way, and is arguably more popular because of it.

The modern tight-ass ‘rules and regulations’ skate scene drove Andy to YouTube. That mentality caused this. Not Andy, who just wants to be his weird, soft self.

It skipped a generation or two, but Andy Anderson is the true heir to the 1980s Powell & Bones Brigade era. That's why he's so popular with that crowd, because he feels like maybe what skateboarding would have been if Powell had continued to dominate the skateboard industry into the 90s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2022, 07:33:44 AM
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Well they’re light for sure but I didn’t like them as much as other Indy’s. Felt a bit too floaty and the board didn’t suck up to my feet as well or pop as strong. I prefer normal forged hollow to them but currently ride standard hollows and like them the most.
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What do you mean with too floaty?

Can I get those venture out the box tight with their standard bushings or do I need harder bushings ?



And last question : are wider trucks better for manuals ?

Watch some Ben Degros videos about light trucks he describes it better but generally the pop can feel too light and the board doesn’t suck up against the feet as well. Kinda feels like it doesn’t stick. I find certain things easier with a heavy board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2022, 07:37:58 AM
I find Andy does way too many of the same tricks over and over and over to remain interesting. Like he does every discipline and I don’t watch him a lot but I know if he skates transition he will do a varial heel grab for example.

But this is shoes and gear not questions about skaters. I’ve never seen his deck in the wild or sold anywhere so maybe I’m missing it. I watched his Nine Club and he seemed nice enough.
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Post by: Ok on April 20, 2022, 07:44:17 AM
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Htf is Andy Anderson the biggest skater on earth? Everyone who doesn’t skate knows that dude and Tony hawk and Rodney. That shit is trippy.

I got no issues with the guy but correct me if I’m wrong he can’t switch flip at all
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He’s got a couple, but not many from what I’ve seen.

Not the prettiest kickflip either, but fuck me he can do them anywhere he wants, like Gravette.
[close]

I’m hating a little bit.
[close]

Nah, his stuff is gross.
[close]

Right? I don’t get the && love. Like I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I just don’t get what’s interesting about him? He looks like he would be on revive. And every 40 year old that starts skating again always buys his weird shape board. I’m 36 so I ain’t hating on old dudes getting back into it but why is loving && and getting his custom shape the midlife crisis start skating move?
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Well said. I dunno.
My guess is we live in this odd time, where ‘viral’ content is flown in front of our faces, and that dudes stuff is very quirky/gimmicky. His skating looks like it was made by Reddit. There is also an element that seems dorky and …it’s not as intimidating as seeing some youth do shit that every old person knows they have no chance of doing (I know most can’t do the Andy stuff either, but to me, his stuff seems easier than watching say ‘skater pat’ nonchalantly switch flip a set of stairs that I’d get winded wobbling up).
When I see his board at the park, I know we in a no ollie zone
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Ok, as someone over 40 who likes Andy and yes, bought the board (not a fan of the graphics, and modified the shape), I will let you in on why he’s popular.

Because I started skating around 85, Grade 4, I think.  It was booming and was cool. I was not. I was perhaps the most unpopular kid at the school.

I thought skating would make me cool.

But as I got into it, read the magazines, I realized that it was a sport for outsiders. You could do it by yourself (which was perfect, as I had no friends until Jr High school). It wouldn’t make me cool, but it allowed me to do a sport with no rules.Make my own fun, and my own tricks.  This is pre-popsicle, beford skating became heavily uniform. All of a sudden, it had lots of rules. Cool tricks (that took a million tries to accomplish, rather than the poetry of a boneless over a curb, which was much more accessible and democratic). Cool clothes, and what became a very rigid mindset that I still see in people who grew up in that era.

If I’m going to generalize, the thrust of the  80’s was about fun (and how creative you could be in its pursuit). The 90’s was about adherence to a form, mastery of tricks. Kind of a polar shift in focus. Which is why I never got on board with much of it.

Andy for us, reminds us of that more innocent, free time. Before rules and cool guy shit. Gonz is the only one that transitioned and didn’t lose his sense of discovery. Which is why he’s rightly regarded as Skate royalty.

Andy is a nerd, an outcast (because to skate in the 80’s you WERE an outcast, and sometimes beat up for it). We relate to that. Especially an outcast in a sport that used to love outcasts. Now we love people who are increadibly talented, but adhere to ‘cool’ tricks and norms (Ishod, Yuto, most any cookie cutter Street League fare).

Andy consciously knows that is what would get him noticed (he can obviously hang with the best of them in Street and Transition, and could master the tricks) IF HE WANTED.

But he forgoes all that in pursuit of his own personal fun, and his bizarrely creative approach to it.

He is a spirit animal to us aging skaters whose ideals were forged in the 80’s. And that’s why we love him, despite his horrendous bs airs and helmet. Or maybe because he proudly does it, and doesn’t give a shit about optics.

Well reasoned cucktard


I think you and I are of very similar vintage, and got boards around the same time. I was too young, and not around enough other people to grasp some of the societal vibes when I was younger, skating was just cool: bones brigade, gleaming the cube, poweredge/thrasher, etc. It was until the early-mid 90s when I got back into it and that was for sure borne of wanting to be different than my peers, enjoying being an other, not wanting to be a ‘jock’, looking for something outside of ‘straight society’. Yes there was a time of inclusivity, and then we as skaters obviously got carried away with tribalism, rules. It went too far.
I love how collective skateboard culture rejects ‘progress’ at times, embraces it at others (meaning trick progression). If this rejection didn’t happen, and everyone went full Nyjah, it would have croaked long ago, like rollerblading or whatever.
It’s been correctly joked about/bitterly griped that skateboarding is just there to sell pants, it definitely sells a vibe. I can totally see how AA appeals, sells a vibe to the ‘misfits’, or something. To me, the deployment of the ‘weird, wacky, creative’ tricks is so constant with dude that the impact is lost, looks like a fucking juggling unicycler.
Now that skating is bigger than ever there is amazing instances of the rejection of ‘straight society’ within skating, and I feel very indebted to those that are keeping it weird, different, true to themselves. It’s rad that we are, collectively, living in a comparatively less toxic time, within skating, more differences are being embraced. Obviously a long long long long long ways to go. And it’s all real easy for me to blather about, I’m borne into a body that would be ‘in style’ within skating, at anytime in it’s history (although now I’m quite old, I am/identify as a cis/man/white/hetero, I’m not going to be prejudged too harshly at most sessions).
Criticism is a tricky one, I feel like that pressure to look for the cool things within skating, helped me. Again, those pressures were modeled by people that looked like me, so the way I felt the ‘pressure’  was with relatively harmless shit, like what pants were/are cool, and trying to get a better kickflip. I wasn’t threatened at the core of my being, so that was nice.
I feel like I’m from a time when it was almost as much about what you weren’t, as what you were, or something, and I love the inclusion that I perceive from the youths (to their peers), now. It will be interesting to watch how these inclusive vibes extend to the culture around skating. I’m not suggesting we are post criticism, but comparatively to ‘my time’, it feels like that. Which makes me feel a little sad/glad/old.
Anyways, it’s not deep, I od on ott shit in this. It’s too rambling and not thought out. It’s funny that a company that seems about as corporate as it gets, within skating, Powell, now sells an expensive board, to people that feel rejected by mainstream skating, and have found their hero/avatar in this person that looks like they really really revel in being the odd duck. ‘Look at me!! I’m on a dbl bike, twirling flames! Look at me, pogo sticking and hula hooping at the same time!’. Or something.
I don’t agree that AA would master modern skating if really he wanted too, his style is not nice, by modern skating standards, and that to me, is why he goes full circus. When Koston would dork, it was with the context that he could undork. AA?, nah
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 20, 2022, 08:25:33 AM
You can tell what type of old guy skater you're dealing with by whether they love AA or &&.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on April 20, 2022, 08:49:58 AM
You can tell what type of old guy skater you're dealing with by whether they love AA or &&.

I had this experience at the local park, standing on the mini ramp deck with another guy my age and he was fully padded and riding the && flight deck with the crazy shape....

Meanwhile, I dress like an extra from the movie Kids, so who's a bigger dork really?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 20, 2022, 10:26:12 AM
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You can tell what type of old guy skater you're dealing with by whether they love AA or &&.
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I had this experience at the local park, standing on the mini ramp deck with another guy my age and he was fully padded and riding the && flight deck with the crazy shape....

Meanwhile, I dress like an extra from the movie Kids, so who's a bigger dork really?

It’s a dead heat
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on April 20, 2022, 03:05:15 PM
How much would a new set of wheels with slight wobbles bug you? Enough to not ride them at all? Enough to ride them but only on old bearings and not the nice new ones?
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Post by: Ok on April 20, 2022, 04:13:31 PM
How much would a new set of wheels with slight wobbles bug you? Enough to not ride them at all? Enough to ride them but only on old bearings and not the nice new ones?

Spitfires? I’ve had this a few times lately. Strangely didn’t really hear/feel the wobble, but the wheels get slower.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 21, 2022, 09:20:58 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXKBqlAP8Dz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Anyone had these? Is the insole thinner than the eras, slip-ons etc? The chukka low from 08ish might be my all time fav shoe, but that might also just be nostalgia
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 21, 2022, 09:36:54 PM
That’s a new, thinner Popcush. I tried them on at a Vans store and they felt really flexible. If board feel is what you want that’s the best skate Vans for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on April 22, 2022, 02:23:09 AM
Which one was the first last supper-themed graphic? Was it The Unbelievers' Scott Bourne-deck?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 22, 2022, 09:32:28 AM
What makes a setup "tech"? Considering that dudes have gotten tech on early 90's football shapes, 7.5 popsicles, and now the techiest skaters are riding mostly around 8.25 and 52-54 wheels, is there really such a thing anymore?
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Post by: j....soy..... on April 22, 2022, 11:26:52 AM
The boards which people mostly skate are known as the boards people mostly skate…..a tech board which you are referring to is commonly less than 8, 5.2’s 52 and under……

This is one of those rhetoric type questions though right?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 22, 2022, 11:30:15 AM
No not really more a question of physics and movement.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on April 22, 2022, 01:23:43 PM
Hey there, I need some help.
I bought the Fred Gall Guest Board from Into the Wild Skateboards.
It's a 9.735 Deck.
Between the backholes I measured arround 9.1"
Or 232 mm.
Between the nose holes I measured 236 mm what makes 9,29". I used the Google converter.
I measured in the middle between the holes with a tape measure.
I'm really not sure with what truck size I should run this.
I wanna go for OJ Keyframes 56 mm.
Would you go with 159s or 169s ?
It's gonna be more of a cruiser and hill bomber.
I would like to have no wheel overhang or something.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on April 22, 2022, 07:01:54 PM
Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 22, 2022, 08:29:22 PM
Yes. I use the aftermarket’s in Indy’s. They’re poured then machined and the color is different. They feel perfect from start to finish no break in or temp change issue and they never crumble or crack.

Thunder I think is just duro/color but they still freeze.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on April 22, 2022, 09:33:59 PM
Interesting!
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Post by: Fooj on April 23, 2022, 09:02:22 AM
Anyone know how Guest Board compensation work? Does Evan Smith get a cut of the AH revenue, Natas/TX a cut of the Krooked?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on April 23, 2022, 10:29:39 AM
Yes. I use the aftermarket’s in Indy’s. They’re poured then machined and the color is different. They feel perfect from start to finish no break in or temp change issue and they never crumble or crack.

Thunder I think is just duro/color but they still freeze.
Yup, when I was still skating indy’s I always swapped stock ones to aftermarket, much better quality and rebound.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on April 23, 2022, 04:11:43 PM
i was sitting on the couch and for no apparent reason the thought of someone being 'unable' to skate whole sized boards ie 8, 9, 10 and is more comfortable on .xx so 7.75, 8.25, etc. anyone suffer from this or know anyone with preferences along these lines? i know it seems like overkill but i've seen some wild madness on here before
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on April 23, 2022, 05:38:17 PM
Anyone know how Guest Board compensation work? Does Evan Smith get a cut of the AH revenue, Natas/TX a cut of the Krooked?

No idea about nowdays, but people used to get board royalties on anything with their name on it, eg $1 a board back in the day, which might seem like not much but when they were selling a lot of boards, it was a significant amount.

Given most of those boards were specific quantities, 300 made, or 500 made or something like that, they might get a single sum payment for that, rather than ongoing royalties.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 23, 2022, 05:44:48 PM
What are some of your Nickname’s bestow onto you by past lovers?

I’ve been called Boner Boy  little bear
Pooh bear almost all are bear references fucko

The first one I ever got was Teddy Bear. I was so young I was shook to do more than cuddling and making out. Suck on some tittys. She was like 4 grades ahead of me or more. I was like 11.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nth syd bear on April 23, 2022, 06:28:23 PM
Nth syd bear takes his loving serious ^^  no nicknames & no talking

I should know this but if a tail isn't as steep as you are use to,
would a bigger or smaller wheel offset the mellow tail?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 23, 2022, 09:44:55 PM


I should know this but if a tail isn't as steep as you are use to,
would a bigger or smaller wheel offset the mellow tail?


A taller board, so bigger wheels and or risers, would mean the tail is further from the ground, which should make it feel a little more like a steeper kick in theory.

In practice any combination of parts could replicate exactly that feel, or make things even more off than the last board, but definitely the bigger wheel should offset the mellow tail.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nth syd bear on April 23, 2022, 10:34:42 PM
Thx mate.  That's what I wanted to know.

Such a reliable fella.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 23, 2022, 10:52:05 PM
Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?

I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 24, 2022, 07:13:01 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.

But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 24, 2022, 07:37:04 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.

Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.
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Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on April 24, 2022, 08:14:50 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.

I've seen people post on here before that the stock Indy bushings, despite being orange (or any color they come stock), are actually 88a bushings, so that when you buy the replacement orange 90a ones, the difference is noticeable and quite good.

My question: Has anyone re-used their Riptide pivot cups?
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Post by: goodatmeth on April 24, 2022, 08:23:53 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.

A lot of people, here's an example right above

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Yes. I use the aftermarket’s in Indy’s. They’re poured then machined and the color is different. They feel perfect from start to finish no break in or temp change issue and they never crumble or crack.

Thunder I think is just duro/color but they still freeze.
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Yup, when I was still skating indy’s I always swapped stock ones to aftermarket, much better quality and rebound.
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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on April 24, 2022, 09:03:38 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.
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I've seen people post on here before that the stock Indy bushings, despite being orange (or any color they come stock), are actually 88a bushings, so that when you buy the replacement orange 90a ones, the difference is noticeable and quite good.

My question: Has anyone re-used their Riptide pivot cups?

Yes, I've used needle nose pliers to move them between trucks. Just take care not to tear them when removing them.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 24, 2022, 10:44:27 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.

Yup, they never have. It’s just gear weirdos like us that replace brand new bushings with the same bushing to get a micro effect. I posted elsewhere that I actually used the stock ones recently on accident and couldn’t tell a difference whereas I could in the past. They’re holding up fine as well and in the past they would crumble and blow out. My hypothesis is they did because they were probably similar to the other bushings that come in Ermico trucks like the Ventures that often crumble for people.

I can confirm that the aftermarket reds feel like 96A and suck.
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Post by: munchbox on April 24, 2022, 11:55:33 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.
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I've seen people post on here before that the stock Indy bushings, despite being orange (or any color they come stock), are actually 88a bushings, so that when you buy the replacement orange 90a ones, the difference is noticeable and quite good.

My question: Has anyone re-used their Riptide pivot cups?
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Yes, I've used needle nose pliers to move them between trucks. Just take care not to tear them when removing them.
bought a set two years ago and havent replaced them
both cups are cracked/split and its whatever now
doesnt seem to matter
but then again idc if my board turns left or right without me on it

they do feel cushier than stock and mini logo
but im not sure if its due to riptides or anything else at the time
bushings, washers, geometries, wheelbase, etc, etc
all these variables were changing with and without riptides
so maybe i got got
but $15 a pop to not think about it again seems like a favor?
fucking ben degros and his thinly veiled ads
as if anything is louder than shieldless bearings

riptide is lowkey the funniest thing in skateboarding
dont know of a single brick and mortar skateshop that stocks em
but if i was to step foot in a longboard shop....
i cant help but feel like i paid for a wedgie and just realized it

my apologies for recommending them in the past
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 24, 2022, 01:55:51 PM
Bought an alien 8.25 deck and have to say it looks so damn long compared to what I’m used to.

14.25 WB and 32.25 long
I was never skating a deck longer than 32.


What’s the advantage of longer boards and what do you like more about shorter decks ?
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Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 24, 2022, 04:34:26 PM
Bought an alien 8.25 deck and have to say it looks so damn long compared to what I’m used to.

14.25 WB and 32.25 long
I was never skating a deck longer than 32.


What’s the advantage of longer boards and what do you like more about shorter decks ?

I think it's mostly just preference. I'm no expert on the subject, but I like decks that are 32" to 32.25, wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, I always skate either 8.38 or 8.5. For me the 1/4" length doesn't do that big of a difference, but wheelbase does a little more. I usually have an easier time with manuals and nosegrinds on a longer wheelbase, as a longer lever is easier to balance with (think dude walking on a rope with a long stick) while tre flips and rotations like cabs or 180s feel a tiny bit easier on shorter wheelbase, as it requires less force to spin a shorter object. Also, longer wheelbase feel more stable on tranny tricks. I'm no rocket scientist by any stretch, but that's how it feels to me.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 24, 2022, 05:57:21 PM
I feel 180s and cabs are way easier on a longer deck for some reason. They just float around super nice.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2022, 06:35:16 PM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.
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Yup, they never have. It’s just gear weirdos like us that replace brand new bushings with the same bushing to get a micro effect. I posted elsewhere that I actually used the stock ones recently on accident and couldn’t tell a difference whereas I could in the past. They’re holding up fine as well and in the past they would crumble and blow out. My hypothesis is they did because they were probably similar to the other bushings that come in Ermico trucks like the Ventures that often crumble for people.

I can confirm that the aftermarket reds feel like 96A and suck.


Agreed with the older stock bushings, which is why they had something a while back to say they had changed the formula and upgraded the stock ones, which now skate really well, or at least so much better than the older ones.

Also, an interesting point on the red 88 bushings, which definitely used to feel a lot harder than half the others that were supposed to be harder, but were not, but the new set of 88 red are a slightly different colour that I just tried from the diamond logo packet, (used to be the cross logo packet) and they are most definitely softer, so they might have fixed that somewhere along the way too.

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Post by: realbasedgod112 on April 24, 2022, 11:32:15 PM
Bought an alien 8.25 deck and have to say it looks so damn long compared to what I’m used to.

14.25 WB and 32.25 long
I was never skating a deck longer than 32.


What’s the advantage of longer boards and what do you like more about shorter decks ?
its all just preference, but i've found shorter boards to be lighter (duh) and my tricks will be much higher than with the former.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on April 25, 2022, 02:20:34 AM
fellow, slappers, i wanna set up a cruiser, and was wondering about the wheels.
what would you suggest? i am eyeing OJ super juice 78a or OJ plain jane keyframes 87a.
i am not sure about the hardness/softness - is 78a too soft or is 87a too hard? thanks fam
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Post by: Mean salto on April 25, 2022, 02:52:31 AM
fellow, slappers, i wanna set up a cruiser, and was wondering about the wheels.
what would you suggest? i am eyeing OJ super juice 78a or OJ plain jane keyframes 87a.
i am not sure about the hardness/softness - is 78a too soft or is 87a too hard? thanks fam
I prefer the softer but I'm not doing tricks while a to b'ing on my cruiser. Sliding is possible if necessary but not ideal and wheelbite will be a bummer tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 25, 2022, 04:36:13 AM
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Bought an alien 8.25 deck and have to say it looks so damn long compared to what I’m used to.

14.25 WB and 32.25 long
I was never skating a deck longer than 32.


What’s the advantage of longer boards and what do you like more about shorter decks ?
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its all just preference, but i've found shorter boards to be lighter (duh) and my tricks will be much higher than with the former.

Ok, I’ll see how I like it. I got pretty long legs and 10.5 -11 feet, so maybe going up in everything is a good idea
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 07:36:16 AM
I’m 6’3” with size 10 feet and it’s been hard to find a good compromise, but I skate best on decks that are 32” (tip to tip not with the concave) and lately only longer wheelbases like 14.38-14.5. My tricks pop higher and I’m more stable and don’t ever feel cramped.
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Post by: ToshiroTownune on April 25, 2022, 07:47:36 AM
Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 25, 2022, 09:08:09 AM
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Aftermarket Indy and Thunder bushings... are they really any different from stock?

I have a hard time believing that the aftermarket orange Indy bushings, for example, are any different than what comes stock.

Why would they bother making both?
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I just assume they make them so you can replace blown out bushings.
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But why are they making stock 90a ones, that are different from after market 90a ones? Which are supposedly better than stock ones.
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Who says they're better or different? I don't recall ever seeing that in their marketing.
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Yup, they never have. It’s just gear weirdos like us that replace brand new bushings with the same bushing to get a micro effect. I posted elsewhere that I actually used the stock ones recently on accident and couldn’t tell a difference whereas I could in the past. They’re holding up fine as well and in the past they would crumble and blow out. My hypothesis is they did because they were probably similar to the other bushings that come in Ermico trucks like the Ventures that often crumble for people.

I can confirm that the aftermarket reds feel like 96A and suck.

Yeah, I guess that a lot of stuff people talk about here is speculation that gets repeated until people assume it's fact. And it might be that there are different bushings installed in factory-assembled trucks than are available aftermarket. It's entirely possible that the other bushings are made far, far away, and Independent sources something which can be made close by in order to get finished trucks out the door. That kind of stuff is normal in manufacturing.

But indeed, the stock bushings seem to me to be the same as the aftermarket bushings, and both are actually great now, after sucking for a long time. And the "soft" red bushings are absolutely unskateable.
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Post by: gsosa on April 25, 2022, 10:00:18 AM
fellow, slappers, i wanna set up a cruiser, and was wondering about the wheels.
what would you suggest? i am eyeing OJ super juice 78a or OJ plain jane keyframes 87a.
i am not sure about the hardness/softness - is 78a too soft or is 87a too hard? thanks fam
Get the Keyframes! I fucking love those wheels, I rock em on my filmer/cruiser board. It all depends on what the other guy said, if you want to do tricks on your cruiser get the Keyframes since they are closer to a "normal" wheel while still feeling like riding on a cloud. If you really just want to move around and barely pop tricks then get the 78as which will have you flying around for sure but not much help for anything else.
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Post by: ToshiroTownune on April 25, 2022, 02:27:39 PM
If you’re going to go with 78a and just want to cruise, I recommend sizing up to the 66mm slimeballs. Def faster than the 60s and you can use the same risers as the 60s and be fine. There’s also the 75mm thunder juice which are super fun in their own right, but you’ll probably need to go up to 1/2” risers and it’s def a different feel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on April 25, 2022, 03:06:16 PM
I had 54mm 87A Keyframes and 60mm 78A Ricta Clouds. Rictas went faster but they’re much wider and bigger. Couldn’t really find any difference in how soft they felt. Both are very soft and grippy and roll over a ton of crust.tricks are entirely possible with both. Can’t go wrong with either IMO. It’s more of what exactly you want from your cruiser wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on April 25, 2022, 03:27:16 PM
Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.

Do you use spacers?
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Post by: ToshiroTownune on April 25, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
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Do you use spacers?

I don’t. Is that the issue?
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 25, 2022, 04:38:34 PM
I’m 6’3” with size 10 feet and it’s been hard to find a good compromise, but I skate best on decks that are 32” (tip to tip not with the concave) and lately only longer wheelbases like 14.38-14.5. My tricks pop higher and I’m more stable and don’t ever feel cramped.

That’s interesting. Really exited to skate my new decks and to see how I like different sizes.

Like already said in another thread: real logo 8.12 next and 8.25 alien after. Also still have an 8.18 hockey deck here.
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Post by: Space Cowboy on April 25, 2022, 05:35:41 PM
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I don’t. Is that the issue?

I started using spacers a last year and i found it makes a huge difference in the length of bearing lifetime, it makes sense to me because when you slam your wheels against a ledge or powerslide etc. it keeps your bearing straight rather than allowing them to shift at all. I think that those small shifts in bearing positions can cause them to seize up much quicker.

The only real "fix"I have found for seized bearings was to rip around a skate park or street really fast and doing that gets the shit out of your bearings and I believe it kind of re-aligns your bearings due to the high speed in a straight direction.

Also, a small thing could be that nylon cages are much better at not bending when debris gets into the bearing as they can flex to clean themselves, while steel bearing cages just bend/dent and stay that way.

Im no expert with this but i hope i could provide some insight from my experiences!

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Post by: j....soy..... on April 25, 2022, 05:41:21 PM
I ride the built in spacers and have things set up perfectly but I still get seized bearings sometime.  I have two sets going, I swap out the seized ones and then clean them.  I can run the two sets for awhile.

Skate bearings suffer so much abuse, I can’t say any of it makes a difference…..
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Post by: Space Cowboy on April 25, 2022, 05:55:25 PM
I ride the built in spacers and have things set up perfectly but I still get seized bearings sometime.  I have two sets going, I swap out the seized ones and then clean them.  I can run the two sets for awhile.

Skate bearings suffer so much abuse, I can’t say any of it makes a difference…..

there is truth to this as well, for bearings in skateboarding its hard to tell what works and what wont work cause there are so many factors to it.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 25, 2022, 06:16:23 PM
Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.


Might be asking too many questions, but what are you skating for bearings?

Shields on or off?

When you take them apart, are they clean, dirty, rusty, still lubed or dry, etc?


I like fixing a lot of things, including bearings, but only if they have removable rubber shields and non metal ball retainers, which are usually just given a quick spray of degreaser and put on one of the loan boards / free kids setups at the indoor park I skate at.

Might be as said the pressure on a certain wheel is causing more issues, which I have definitely seen before with some bearings, from cheapies right up to swiss - all end up with the same issues from certain ways people skate, but it can be really frustrating if it is something else, eg bent axle or badly poured wheel that is also causing extra problems.


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Post by: Fooj on April 25, 2022, 06:20:52 PM
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I don’t. Is that the issue?

It can only help. A lot of people don’t like using them since the bearings don’t sit as deep in the wheel, but if you think about how the wheel supports the bearings outer ring, while the nut presses on the center ring, it’s bound to cause lateral stress on the bearing when tightening or just skating. The bearing seat in the wheel will never be perfect since it’s made of urethane so without them there will always be a certain degree of wobble.

Using a spacer creates a connected metal support where the bearing gets the most stress, the center ring.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 06:29:30 PM
I actually noticed spacers make it work and I believe that Quantum doesn't even recommend them. I measured 4 pairs of Spitfire wheels and found that the spacers that come with Swiss actually do not let the bearings completely seat at the center of the wheel. This contributes to bearings seizing as the bearing is technically never properly installed. The inner side of the outer race needs to touch the side of the wheel so that it is laterally aligned. If the spacer prevents this then there is nothing solid for the bearing to push against as it is torqued on a bad landing.

I liken skateboard wheels' bearing system to a bicycle bottom bracket, which is the thing that your crankshaft goes through. In both cases there is a seat for the bearing and the axle assembly takes up the lateral torque. Bike cranks do not ever have internal spacers of any sort, any play is taken up outboard of the two bearings.

So why does a skateboard wheel have to have spacers if it is more or less the same system? I noticed that most of my bearing seizures happen when landing primo or a lot on one side of the wheel. With a spacer the bearing twists in the wheel and applies the same twist to the other bearing, which causes the jam since it moves the bearing assembly at an angle in a way that is not perfectly in line with the direction of spin. If you have no spacer the force is taken up by the single bearing moving slightly, but the other bearing has more leeway in how much it twists. What I noticed is that my wheels might change slightly in how fast they spin due to small movements in the wheel, but I never jam.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 06:32:33 PM
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It can only help. A lot of people don’t like using them since the bearings don’t sit as deep in the wheel, but if you think about how the wheel supports the bearings outer ring, while the nut presses on the center ring, it’s bound to cause lateral stress on the bearing when tightening or just skating. The bearing seat in the wheel will never be perfect since it’s made of urethane so without them there will always be a certain degree of wobble.

Using a spacer creates a connected metal support where the bearing gets the most stress, the center ring.

Incorrect. You do not want the spacer to make force on the inner race. The outer race has more contact area with a supporting surface even if it is urethane and there is more total surface area where the balls contact the race. The inner race will more likely throw out cage alignment/stress the cages. This is why bearing presses always press the outer race and you should never install bearings by putting them on the axle as it puts all the strain on the inner race when the bearing meets resistance.

Using the bicycle analogy above, which is a similar axle system, the forces are always applied to the outer race and bottom bracket shell and never the inner race. Forces applied or localized to the inner races destroy the bearing. A spacer between the inner race will often put a lot of lateral stress on the inner race from forcing the bearings to be in constant lateral alignment.

Despite being urethane, being pressed against a solid firm surface that doesn't distort is better than putting all of the stress on an inner surface where there can still be distortion on the outer. Plus if you have any lateral play on your preload, then when the bearing moves side to side it will basically be prying the bearings in and out of the wheel in the weakest area.
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Post by: lamfordie on April 25, 2022, 06:58:07 PM
How do the Tensor Aluminum trucks skate. I see that theyre on sale and Im tempted to buy.
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Post by: biaherl on April 25, 2022, 08:00:40 PM
How do the Tensor Aluminum trucks skate. I see that theyre on sale and Im tempted to buy.

Unfortunately no one knows the answer to that question. You would be the first
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Post by: hobochimp on April 25, 2022, 08:14:15 PM
Does anybody have any screenshots or videos where Bobby de Keyzer was skating aces? I know there was a short period of time where people were seeing him skate them. Weird request I know but I want to see those clips for some reason
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 09:08:48 PM
Search the Ace thread but I think it was an IG story.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 25, 2022, 09:39:09 PM
Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.

I don't know about seized bearings. My guess would be disassemble them entirely and check the race for fretting (scoring in the metal). If there's a lot, I'd say it's a loss. Otherwise, clean everything in some basic cleaner (WD40 would probably work well here), and reassemble with some regular bearing oil like Bones or generic sewing machine oil.

As for slappies, I absolutely believe that the wreck bearings quicker. I have backside slappies and the bearings on my backside always get wrecked quickest, especially the ceramic Quantums (otherwise good and *very* fast bearings). It makes total sense, especially if you're skating 45° curbs and not the smooth, banked kind. That's a lot of sideways force.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 25, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
WRT bearing spacers, it has always seemed to me that the only company who does this right is Ricta. A properly manufactured plastic or aluminum spacer in the center of the wheel would ensure a uniform seating of the bearings. The problem is, of course, is that then you're riding Ricta.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on April 26, 2022, 01:46:53 AM
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Might be asking too many questions, but what are you skating for bearings?

Shields on or off?

When you take them apart, are they clean, dirty, rusty, still lubed or dry, etc?


I like fixing a lot of things, including bearings, but only if they have removable rubber shields and non metal ball retainers, which are usually just given a quick spray of degreaser and put on one of the loan boards / free kids setups at the indoor park I skate at.

Might be as said the pressure on a certain wheel is causing more issues, which I have definitely seen before with some bearings, from cheapies right up to swiss - all end up with the same issues from certain ways people skate, but it can be really frustrating if it is something else, eg bent axle or badly poured wheel that is also causing extra problems.

This has happened to me with Bones Swiss, Reds, and Big Balls.

Shields have been on. The worst in terms of not spinning at all was with bones big balls. It was totally dry when I took it apart, though I was able to clean the parts and reassemble with success (limited number of balls made putting it back togeher a snap). Currently trying to reassemble the swiss bearing and this one is considerably harder to get all the balls to line up and sit properly. After much manipulation I was able to get the balls back on the inner race, but even so it did not spin well. All the parts are clean now so I'm at a loss as to why it's still spinning as if there is an obstruction of some sort. Maybe the fretting that manysnakes mentioned? I picked up some speed cream and can try that if you guys think it would do the trick. Some people on here were saying it deadened their ride so I was hesitant to give it a go, but am open to whatever makes this thing spin properly!

I do a lot of backside feebles and hurricanes, so I'm guessing this is putting more pressure on this wheel in particular.

Thanks for everyone's input!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2022, 05:32:08 AM
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Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.
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Might be asking too many questions, but what are you skating for bearings?

Shields on or off?

When you take them apart, are they clean, dirty, rusty, still lubed or dry, etc?


I like fixing a lot of things, including bearings, but only if they have removable rubber shields and non metal ball retainers, which are usually just given a quick spray of degreaser and put on one of the loan boards / free kids setups at the indoor park I skate at.

Might be as said the pressure on a certain wheel is causing more issues, which I have definitely seen before with some bearings, from cheapies right up to swiss - all end up with the same issues from certain ways people skate, but it can be really frustrating if it is something else, eg bent axle or badly poured wheel that is also causing extra problems.
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This has happened to me with Bones Swiss, Reds, and Big Balls.

Shields have been on. The worst in terms of not spinning at all was with bones big balls. It was totally dry when I took it apart, though I was able to clean the parts and reassemble with success (limited number of balls made putting it back togeher a snap). Currently trying to reassemble the swiss bearing and this one is considerably harder to get all the balls to line up and sit properly. After much manipulation I was able to get the balls back on the inner race, but even so it did not spin well. All the parts are clean now so I'm at a loss as to why it's still spinning as if there is an obstruction of some sort. Maybe the fretting that manysnakes mentioned? I picked up some speed cream and can try that if you guys think it would do the trick. Some people on here were saying it deadened their ride so I was hesitant to give it a go, but am open to whatever makes this thing spin properly!

I do a lot of backside feebles and hurricanes, so I'm guessing this is putting more pressure on this wheel in particular.

Thanks for everyone's input!


Most people I know who do a full take apart routine on bearings of any grade usually have issues with them never being quite the same again, so the most I would do is usually pop shields off, check if there is anything inside them, use a degreaser on them to get them spinning again and if that is all it takes, make sure the shields are flat (not bent), put them back on and put the bearings back on the board and skate.

It might almost be the most simple routine, but it works and most bearings come good and stay reasonable enough just with that alone.  Been doing that for a long, long time and it works, usually my main boards having Bones Swiss, but I also have other brands and various quality levels on some setups too.


I did hear there was an issue with the Bones Big Balls cage, which tended to have faults and break.


Also with getting bearings back in, put the shield on the outer part and lay shield side down, put the inner part in to one side and the seven balls should go in easily enough sitting on the back of the shield on one side, then use something fine to space them out around and gently push the bearing cage down over them.  I saw and learned this from someone posting a video on here a while back, no force, no pressure or issues and it works so well.

When using lube on clean and dry bearings, one drop is usually plenty, two at the absolute most and yes they will sound more flat for a while after that, but they come good again and skate better than raw / dry / no lube or anything else in them as well as keeping the bearing life going too.


Anyway, this was from the other day, which fits fairly well here, even if it is just for the pictures.  I don't like metal shields or metal bearing cage parts, so anything with rubber shields and the usual nylon ball retainers should work well, as long as they hold everything in tightly.  A loose bearing arrangement that shakes or moves a lot is going to be less likely to last or hold up to skateboarding than a tight one, like Swiss and other good bearings.


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Post by: fs1/2cab on April 26, 2022, 02:39:42 PM
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Best method for fixing seized bearings? And do slappies mess up bearings? Keep getting seized bearings on my back right wheels.
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Might be asking too many questions, but what are you skating for bearings?

Shields on or off?

When you take them apart, are they clean, dirty, rusty, still lubed or dry, etc?


I like fixing a lot of things, including bearings, but only if they have removable rubber shields and non metal ball retainers, which are usually just given a quick spray of degreaser and put on one of the loan boards / free kids setups at the indoor park I skate at.

Might be as said the pressure on a certain wheel is causing more issues, which I have definitely seen before with some bearings, from cheapies right up to swiss - all end up with the same issues from certain ways people skate, but it can be really frustrating if it is something else, eg bent axle or badly poured wheel that is also causing extra problems.
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This has happened to me with Bones Swiss, Reds, and Big Balls.

Shields have been on. The worst in terms of not spinning at all was with bones big balls. It was totally dry when I took it apart, though I was able to clean the parts and reassemble with success (limited number of balls made putting it back togeher a snap). Currently trying to reassemble the swiss bearing and this one is considerably harder to get all the balls to line up and sit properly. After much manipulation I was able to get the balls back on the inner race, but even so it did not spin well. All the parts are clean now so I'm at a loss as to why it's still spinning as if there is an obstruction of some sort. Maybe the fretting that manysnakes mentioned? I picked up some speed cream and can try that if you guys think it would do the trick. Some people on here were saying it deadened their ride so I was hesitant to give it a go, but am open to whatever makes this thing spin properly!

I do a lot of backside feebles and hurricanes, so I'm guessing this is putting more pressure on this wheel in particular.

Thanks for everyone's input!
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Most people I know who do a full take apart routine on bearings of any grade usually have issues with them never being quite the same again, so the most I would do is usually pop shields off, check if there is anything inside them, use a degreaser on them to get them spinning again and if that is all it takes, make sure the shields are flat (not bent), put them back on and put the bearings back on the board and skate.

It might almost be the most simple routine, but it works and most bearings come good and stay reasonable enough just with that alone.  Been doing that for a long, long time and it works, usually my main boards having Bones Swiss, but I also have other brands and various quality levels on some setups too.


I did hear there was an issue with the Bones Big Balls cage, which tended to have faults and break.


Also with getting bearings back in, put the shield on the outer part and lay shield side down, put the inner part in to one side and the seven balls should go in easily enough sitting on the back of the shield on one side, then use something fine to space them out around and gently push the bearing cage down over them.  I saw and learned this from someone posting a video on here a while back, no force, no pressure or issues and it works so well.

When using lube on clean and dry bearings, one drop is usually plenty, two at the absolute most and yes they will sound more flat for a while after that, but they come good again and skate better than raw / dry / no lube or anything else in them as well as keeping the bearing life going too.


Anyway, this was from the other day, which fits fairly well here, even if it is just for the pictures.  I don't like metal shields or metal bearing cage parts, so anything with rubber shields and the usual nylon ball retainers should work well, as long as they hold everything in tightly.  A loose bearing arrangement that shakes or moves a lot is going to be less likely to last or hold up to skateboarding than a tight one, like Swiss and other good bearings.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CcrNxuFJgeL/

I recently learned it is easier to re-assemble bearings if you work on a soft surface. Put everything on a towel for example and you can easily push the balls back into the bearing ring and cages and all that stuff.

Sorry for my bad english I am awake for 30 hours
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2022, 05:47:35 PM

I recently learned it is easier to re-assemble bearings if you work on a soft surface. Put everything on a towel for example and you can easily push the balls back into the bearing ring and cages and all that stuff.

Sorry for my bad english I am awake for 30 hours


Yes that makes perfect sense, not a worry and not bad english either!

I remember when I used to have to work super long hours and was often awake way too often.  Thankfully I am done with that now though.

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Post by: TurdyBird on April 26, 2022, 06:31:39 PM
Does anyone ever wish that all woodshops or brands adhered to how length is measured ( including concave or not).

Recently going through some major board madness right now. Been really digging the Alien 8.75 shape. However, I wish it was a tad shorter. 32, 32.12. I love the 14.25 wheelbase tho with some 151 thunders. Enjoi has a board with the dims I want but I can't do the steep kicks.

Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worst habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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Post by: realbasedgod112 on April 26, 2022, 06:59:54 PM
has anyone here tried those madness decks with the 'grip grooves'?
i'm curious as to how they work, and what their actual benefit is. to me, it seems like having more grip on your slides is a detriment if anything.
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 26, 2022, 07:05:01 PM
has anyone here tried those madness decks with the 'grip grooves'?
i'm curious as to how they work, and what their actual benefit is. to me, it seems like having more grip on your slides is a detriment if anything.

They're meant for grab tricks, not slides.
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Post by: Mantracker on April 26, 2022, 07:14:32 PM
Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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I’m skating a Quasi 8.5 x 33

Last 2 shapes were the same Quasi 8.5 at 32.25, but measured through the concave so the deck is about 31.9 long

I wanted the little extra length to see if it works for me. So far I prefer the shorter deck for flip trucks and the longer deck for ollies and grinds. I think I’ll go back to the shorter one after this

If the length is closer to 33” then it’s likely measured through the concaves and not tip to tip
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 26, 2022, 07:19:32 PM
Does anyone ever wish that all woodshops or brands adhered to how length is measured ( including concave or not).

Recently going through some major board madness right now. Been really digging the Alien 8.75 shape. However, I wish it was a tad shorter. 32, 32.12. I love the 14.25 wheelbase tho with some 151 thunders. Enjoi has a board with the dims I want but I can't do the steep kicks.

Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them



I think PS Stix is the only one that really does the "measure with concave" for length, so anything from PS Stix that says 32.25 is more like 31.85 or so, at least from the boards I have checked myself and from what others have said too.

Mostly everything else is measured straight across from tip to tip with graphic side down, which gives a more accurate and more uniform way to measure boards.


Those AWS decks sure are long in the kicks with their shorter wheelbase, but other boards are the same if not longer overall, usually with slightly longer wheelbases which result in slightly more normal (and shorter) kicks, but in saying that the bigger boards are often up to 6.75 in tail length, with 7.25 noses, maybe 14.5 to 15" wheelbases so work out nicely proportionate at 32.5 up to 33" in total length, like the AH orange eagle, which is a big board, but still works.

As for something similar, the Polar 8.75 has a much smaller tail by comparison to AWS decks and is a touch shorter overall when I had them back to back, with the AH white eagle in 8.75 being only ever so slightly longer overall, but with a longer wheelbase and what I would consider very good nose and tail lengths, but that is just me.

When it comes to concave, there are a lot more things to check or note there too, different woodshops having different kicks on their decks, some more mellow and spoon like (BBS) and others very quick and steep (Dwindle) but there are quite a few in between as well.  It just takes a while to go through boards in person, look at them, stand on them and feel out what seems like it would be more comfortable.

Everyone has their own preferences, as well as different boards in different shops / areas / countries, so there is no way to really say this one is best, that one is ok, the other ones are bad, unless you are in the same place and standing on the same boards, but even then I know I have different thoughts on some boards to other people I skate with.

At least if you get a feel for what concave you prefer, the Woodshop list should help a bit in working out what you might want to try, but I am often surprised when I go somewhere that has a good range and could spend a while standing on all the boards in certain sizes just to see what they are like, definitely some more comfortable than others.

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Post by: TurdyBird on April 26, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
@Mbrimson88 you're a goddamn gem on these 'boards. Thank you so much!

Have always been curious what the difference would be between ps stix and all the other woodshops. That was huge.

I'm just starting to get use of the concept of proportions which feels stupid to say in a sentence. I think the disconnect is I started skating a lot more regularly at the start of the pandemic.  Been having to go off dimensions!

My skate shop is only doing pick ups and deliveries still I think. I need to call them. Otherwise, I'll check what the surf shops have. Really curious about the Huffer
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Post by: jakeumms on April 27, 2022, 12:15:50 AM
Anybody know the wheelbases on Sci Fi Fantasy decks? Specifically looking for whatever the Ryan Lay decks have? I know his Welcome boards had longer wheelbases so I'm expecting something loooong.
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Post by: TurdyBird on April 27, 2022, 12:30:04 AM
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Post by: Slugboi22 on April 27, 2022, 01:08:23 AM
i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
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Post by: Solex on April 27, 2022, 05:08:06 AM
i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
Narrower boards are actually easier to flip, but the difference between 8.5" and 8.38" will be barely noticeable.
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Post by: Mean salto on April 27, 2022, 05:16:01 AM
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i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
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Narrower boards are actually easier to flip, but the difference between 8.5" and 8.38" will be barely noticeable.
To get the smaller board flipping faster benefit you will need to also size down your trucks. Having trucks wider than board actually might make your board a little harder to flip. Wide board with smaller trucks will flip fast but can get a bit hard to handle at speed.
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Post by: Solex on April 27, 2022, 05:25:56 AM
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i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
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Narrower boards are actually easier to flip, but the difference between 8.5" and 8.38" will be barely noticeable.
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To get the smaller board flipping faster benefit you will need to also size down your trucks. Having trucks wider than board actually might make your board a little harder to flip. Wide board with smaller trucks will flip fast but can get a bit hard to handle at speed.
For sure. :)

It's all about inertia and leverage!
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Post by: Slugboi22 on April 27, 2022, 09:10:56 AM
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i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
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Narrower boards are actually easier to flip, but the difference between 8.5" and 8.38" will be barely noticeable.
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To get the smaller board flipping faster benefit you will need to also size down your trucks. Having trucks wider than board actually might make your board a little harder to flip. Wide board with smaller trucks will flip fast but can get a bit hard to handle at speed.
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For sure. :)

It's all about inertia and leverage!
Thank you both for the reply! I’m hesitant to go down in trucks because i have some good grooves going on my AF1 55s. their weight has never bothered me too bad and i think they will pair well with an 8.38! Next time i grab a board i’m making the change! :)
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 27, 2022, 09:26:04 AM
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This is wrong, the 8.5 is a bog standard BBS shape: 8.5x32.25x14.5. 8.38 has 14.38 and 8.25 has 14.25.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 27, 2022, 10:45:18 AM
Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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Post by: Mean salto on April 27, 2022, 10:51:25 AM
Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
It's not nice on the body so I'm sure most skaters in their 30s have days when their ankles, knees, hips, back are playing up and walk like an elderly person but overall I usually see more the opposite. If I ever see someone I went to school with the majority of the time it's "woah they look fucked. Maybe that's their dad"
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Post by: goodatmeth on April 27, 2022, 11:35:07 AM
Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.

I feel like 30yo skaters might look 40, but 60yo skaters still look 40
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 27, 2022, 11:36:50 AM
i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape

Their 8.5 has a 14.38 as does their 8.38. The tail and nose are a tiny bit shorter and it's a tiny bit narrower. Imagine taking 1/16" off the board the entire way around. That's basically it.
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Post by: j....soy..... on April 27, 2022, 11:38:11 AM
Something even crazier….your 8 3/8’s may actually be the same width….
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Post by: TurdyBird on April 27, 2022, 12:49:37 PM
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Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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I’m skating a Quasi 8.5 x 33

Last 2 shapes were the same Quasi 8.5 at 32.25, but measured through the concave so the deck is about 31.9 long

I wanted the little extra length to see if it works for me. So far I prefer the shorter deck for flip trucks and the longer deck for ollies and grinds. I think I’ll go back to the shorter one after this

If the length is closer to 33” then it’s likely measured through the concaves and not tip to tip
how long is the 33" Quasi tip to tip?
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Post by: TurdyBird on April 27, 2022, 12:53:47 PM
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This is wrong, the 8.5 is a bog standard BBS shape: 8.5x32.25x14.5. 8.38 has 14.38 and 8.25 has 14.25.

Alien is mostly pressed by bbs and have a 8.5 x 32.25 x14.25.
Also, not sure why you brought up the other sizes, as their seem to only be the two sizes for the Ryan Lay pro board.

Not trying to come off defensive either! Just stating what I know.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 27, 2022, 12:54:05 PM
Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.

If anything the opposite is true. Keeping active into adulthood demonstrably slows many of the processes of aging. If you stayed a drunken burnout for the entire time, you’re probably fucked, but every talented skater over 30 I know is at least partially interested in diet and fitness, and that interest only seems to increase as you reach your 40s and skating with caring for yourself becomes functionally impossible.
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Post by: Solex on April 27, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
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Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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I feel like 30yo skaters might look 40, but 60yo skaters still look 40
I can't wait to see if 80 years old skaters will look like they are 20  :D
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Post by: Roisto on April 27, 2022, 01:38:00 PM
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i might just be overthinking it all and i know this is a silly question but do skinnier boards actually flip easier/ faster than wider ones? Or is it more about the wheelbase? I’ve been considering sizing down from 8.5 to 8.38 but worried about hating how small it’ll feel. for reference i’m on a polar 8.5 with 14.5 wb and am considering trying their 8.3 shape
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Their 8.5 has a 14.38 as does their 8.38. The tail and nose are a tiny bit shorter and it's a tiny bit narrower. Imagine taking 1/16" off the board the entire way around. That's basically it.

That’s true about the wheelbase. How insignificantly small the difference between 8.5” and 8.375” is, the Polar decks of those sizes feel very different. The 8.375” feels crazy small compared to the 8.5” for some reason. I was really surprised by this back when I first got both. The 8.375” I really liked even though it felt quite small for me. The 8.5” I never really spent much time with for some reason. Gotta set it up this summer and see how I like it.
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Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 27, 2022, 02:22:06 PM
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Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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If anything the opposite is true. Keeping active into adulthood demonstrably slows many of the processes of aging. If you stayed a drunken burnout for the entire time, you’re probably fucked, but every talented skater over 30 I know is at least partially interested in diet and fitness, and that interest only seems to increase as you reach your 40s and skating with caring for yourself becomes functionally impossible.

Yup, 30 y/o here, I eat healthy and workout 5-6 times a week (I know it's frowned upon to workout among young skaters because it's not cool, but w/e). People never believe me when I say I'm 30, they always think I'm below 25.
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 27, 2022, 03:39:38 PM
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Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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If anything the opposite is true. Keeping active into adulthood demonstrably slows many of the processes of aging. If you stayed a drunken burnout for the entire time, you’re probably fucked, but every talented skater over 30 I know is at least partially interested in diet and fitness, and that interest only seems to increase as you reach your 40s and skating with caring for yourself becomes functionally impossible.
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Yup, 30 y/o here, I eat healthy and workout 5-6 times a week (I know it's frowned upon to workout among young skaters because it's not cool, but w/e). People never believe me when I say I'm 30, they always think I'm below 25.

Do some skaters unironically think that working out and being healthy in general is some kook shit?
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Post by: manysnakes on April 27, 2022, 07:20:54 PM
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Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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If anything the opposite is true. Keeping active into adulthood demonstrably slows many of the processes of aging. If you stayed a drunken burnout for the entire time, you’re probably fucked, but every talented skater over 30 I know is at least partially interested in diet and fitness, and that interest only seems to increase as you reach your 40s and skating with caring for yourself becomes functionally impossible.
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Yup, 30 y/o here, I eat healthy and workout 5-6 times a week (I know it's frowned upon to workout among young skaters because it's not cool, but w/e). People never believe me when I say I'm 30, they always think I'm below 25.

I'm 41 and frequently mistaken for late-20s, early 30s (if you don't look too close at my wrinkles). I've exercised regularly since I was in my early 20s, ride a bike instead of driving most of the time, don't eat meat, no coffee, little sugar, limited drugs and alcohol - that shit pays off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 28, 2022, 06:40:45 AM
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Why can’t I feeble on ledges or slappy curbs?

My front wheel just doesn’t move when I hit the ledge or curb.


Second question : does skateboarding age people like crazy ? To me skaters look pretty wasted when they hit mid 30s or many even earlier.
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If anything the opposite is true. Keeping active into adulthood demonstrably slows many of the processes of aging. If you stayed a drunken burnout for the entire time, you’re probably fucked, but every talented skater over 30 I know is at least partially interested in diet and fitness, and that interest only seems to increase as you reach your 40s and skating with caring for yourself becomes functionally impossible.
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Yup, 30 y/o here, I eat healthy and workout 5-6 times a week (I know it's frowned upon to workout among young skaters because it's not cool, but w/e). People never believe me when I say I'm 30, they always think I'm below 25.
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I'm 41 and frequently mistaken for late-20s, early 30s (if you don't look too close at my wrinkles). I've exercised regularly since I was in my early 20s, ride a bike instead of driving most of the time, don't eat meat, no coffee, little sugar, limited drugs and alcohol - that shit pays off.

Hell yeah, love hearing that. I think it shows in your skating too. More explosive pop and you keep your energy for longer as the session goes. I also try to ride my bike and cruiser when possible. I do drink coffee and eat meat though, but I've been conscious of not going overboard on caffeine, and mostly eat chicken, turkey and salmon.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on April 28, 2022, 11:27:44 AM
I’m 50 years old now, but get told I don’t look a day over 49 & a half on the regs.
I’d like to think that’s due to a lifetime of skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 28, 2022, 03:05:44 PM
How can I hold my nosegrinds longer?

I can nosemanual easily, but can’t hold nosegrinds long.
Any advice? What’s the trick to hold them?


And any advice on ledge feebles? I never grind. On rails easily, but I think my front wheel gets stuck as soon as I hit the ledge.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 28, 2022, 06:35:13 PM
Why do lubed bearings seem to spin slower and shorter than dry bearings?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 28, 2022, 07:41:43 PM
Lubricants usually help bearings under protracted loads and when heat develops which doesn’t really happen when you spin a bearing by hand. It also prevents wear of the internal components so they spin faster longer.

I’m not sure it matters for skating but in sports where they’re trying to eek out every marginal advantage, like track cycling, they’re always running some sort of thin lube on wheel bearings, wax on chains, and bottom brackets sorta depend but it’s worth a few watts/fractions of a second.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 28, 2022, 08:35:34 PM
Why do lubed bearings seem to spin slower and shorter than dry bearings?

Lubricants usually help bearings under protracted loads and when heat develops which doesn’t really happen when you spin a bearing by hand. It also prevents wear of the internal components so they spin faster longer.

I’m not sure it matters for skating but in sports where they’re trying to eek out every marginal advantage, like track cycling, they’re always running some sort of thin lube on wheel bearings, wax on chains, and bottom brackets sorta depend but it’s worth a few watts/fractions of a second.


I always thought it was funny that quite a few "pro dudes" and others also in the same situation who skate raw, noisy bearings - no shields, no lube, etc - always had slower setups than most other people I know who ride with shields on and lubed bearings.

Sure when they spin them, they zing - the bearings sound loud and spin for a long time with the board just sitting there, but as said, under load, they don't perform half as well and even very cheap new bearings rolled faster than one board we compared with the same size and brand wheels on the two setups.

That is not to say that all bearings are like that, but it is interesting to see something, then actually ride it and feel it out, which can come out with two totally different experiences.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on April 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
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Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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I’m skating a Quasi 8.5 x 33

Last 2 shapes were the same Quasi 8.5 at 32.25, but measured through the concave so the deck is about 31.9 long

I wanted the little extra length to see if it works for me. So far I prefer the shorter deck for flip trucks and the longer deck for ollies and grinds. I think I’ll go back to the shorter one after this

If the length is closer to 33” then it’s likely measured through the concaves and not tip to tip
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how long is the 33" Quasi tip to tip?

Just threw a tape on my current 33” and my already skated 32.25”

The 33” is actually 32.25”

and the 32.25” is 31.625”
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on April 28, 2022, 09:50:31 PM
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Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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I’m skating a Quasi 8.5 x 33

Last 2 shapes were the same Quasi 8.5 at 32.25, but measured through the concave so the deck is about 31.9 long

I wanted the little extra length to see if it works for me. So far I prefer the shorter deck for flip trucks and the longer deck for ollies and grinds. I think I’ll go back to the shorter one after this

If the length is closer to 33” then it’s likely measured through the concaves and not tip to tip
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how long is the 33" Quasi tip to tip?
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Just threw a tape on my current 33” and my already skated 32.25”

The 33” is actually 32.25”

and the 32.25” is 31.625”

how skated are they? I find my deck length shrink over time due to the tail wearing out or tapping it on the ground
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 29, 2022, 02:10:32 AM
Boards don't shrink that much

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on April 29, 2022, 03:37:20 AM
Yooo anyone remember mouse grip tape? I used to geek over it as a grom. Haaaaaa. Good times!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on April 29, 2022, 06:09:35 AM
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Also, what are there all these 32.5 + length boards about? Whose skating those? I guess good for transition? Either way, I have the worse habit of getting comfy on niche shapes and then hating them

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I’m skating a Quasi 8.5 x 33

Last 2 shapes were the same Quasi 8.5 at 32.25, but measured through the concave so the deck is about 31.9 long

I wanted the little extra length to see if it works for me. So far I prefer the shorter deck for flip trucks and the longer deck for ollies and grinds. I think I’ll go back to the shorter one after this

If the length is closer to 33” then it’s likely measured through the concaves and not tip to tip
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how long is the 33" Quasi tip to tip?
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Just threw a tape on my current 33” and my already skated 32.25”

The 33” is actually 32.25”

and the 32.25” is 31.625”
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how skated are they? I find my deck length shrink over time due to the tail wearing out or tapping it on the ground

33” has 2 sessions on it. It’s practically brand new. It’s actually a hair under 32.25 so assume 32.25 brand new

The 32.25” was skated quite a bit when I measured the 31.625, but I think my last measurement on it when it was brand new was 31.9
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2022, 07:30:24 AM
33” is with the concave. I’m not sure why PS does this. Actually I know why- it is because they believe taking into account the kick length and steepness matters, which maybe it does, but it also makes things more complicated than it needs to be.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 29, 2022, 07:37:12 AM
33” is with the concave. I’m not sure why PS does this. Actually I know why- it is because they believe taking into account the kick length and steepness matters, which maybe it does, but it also makes things more complicated than it needs to be.

It results in me not buying these boards, cuz the measurement are too much. And I’m a big ps Stan. A dlx board that’s 32.25 is generally too much for me, so this particular board isn’t my bag, most likely, but what has happened several time to me is that I get a board that claims to be an 8”, and it’s more like 7.8”, and incredibly short.
I like their wood, but their consistency…

‘More complicated than it needs to be…’
When the professor is talking about something, say trucks, and how it relates to wb’s, I always feel like getting hustled in 3 card Monty. Instead of making a point, there’s this constant need to shift the conversation, which makes it feel like I’m being tricked. It’s kind of like asking how a wine tastes, and they tell you it comes from an organic winery that practices sustainability, they have a lot of dogs on the property, and the owners niece did the artwork for the label.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bryan on April 29, 2022, 08:26:03 AM
Yeah, I get this.

They're basically trying to say with the right setup, most decks will work. Which isn't always the case.

One time I tried a board from a different woodshop, normal dimensions and the pop angle was the same. But the flat before the kick was 2" different, messed with the pocket which I disliked.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2022, 08:30:28 AM
Here is a board. It is longer than some boards and shorter than others. Stand on it. Feel it’s vibes. Visualize your successes and failures. Blame it and praise it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bryan on April 29, 2022, 08:44:37 AM
Isn't this what we normally do at a local shop? Take down 5 boards, put back the stain colors you hate, stand on each one til it speaks to you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2022, 09:05:32 AM
I speak out loud to it just so all the shop employees can engage in the process with me.

Lately tho I pick like a few shapes I am interested in, stand on them and put my feet in a few trick positions then pick the one I’m feeling the most. I leave the others on the ground for other customers to trip over and I tell the shop employees to stop doing marijuanas and fucking pick up the shit off the ground like they’re getting paid to do. Sometimes I just come in and do this even if I don’t want a deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: dr.prestige on April 29, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Isn't this what we normally do at a local shop? Take down 5 boards, put back the stain colors you hate, stand on each one til it speaks to you?

For me it depends on what size board I'm getting, if it's an 8.5" I peruse what they already have on the wall, if I'm looking for something to fit my 5.0 Los I usually ask what they have in the 7.5"-7.75" range and just take what I can get.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 11:11:28 AM
Any old man advice for super tired legs quickly when I’m into skating?

I thought aging wouldn’t affect my skating, but now end 30 I have to admit it does.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on April 29, 2022, 11:44:17 AM
Any old man advice for super tired legs quickly when I’m into skating?

I thought aging wouldn’t affect my skating, but now end 30 I have to admit it does.

stretching/yoga, stay hydrated, eat a good meal, work your legs out on off days (nothing crazy, just keep limber & strong)
some days you'll just get burnt out faster than others tho, you know how it goes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 29, 2022, 12:37:25 PM
Any old man advice for super tired legs quickly when I’m into skating?

I thought aging wouldn’t affect my skating, but now end 30 I have to admit it does.

A lighter setup actually makes difference. I actually didn't believe it until i switched from thunder titaniums to ace and got exhausted way faster. But that's a huge weight difference, so just getting hollow kingpin trucks instead of standards probably isn't going to change much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
I skate Venture v hollows, so this can’t be it for me unfortunately.


Does stretching really make that much of a difference
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I started yesterday. Skated today. This one time didn’t help is what I can say now 😄
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on April 29, 2022, 12:58:23 PM
I skate Venture v hollows, so this can’t be it for me unfortunately.


Does stretching really make that much of a difference
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I started yesterday. Skated today. This one time didn’t help is what I can say now 😄

Stick with the stretching, at the very least it'll keep things from getting worse. Make sure you are wearing shoes that work for your feet (and the rest of your body), and drink lots of water. If you smoke cigs, quit...few things are worse for your body.

Also, FWIW, Ventures have a pretty heavy pop feel and can be kind of a workout to get off the ground, even in their lighter iterations. You would be surprised how much easier some heavier trucks (Ace specifically) are to get off the ground, though the turn is very different. I realize I am in direct contradiction to another advice post, but it is different for everyone and I find lighter pop feel matters way more than lighter weight.

I'll be 40 in two months and I still skate every day.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
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I skate Venture v hollows, so this can’t be it for me unfortunately.


Does stretching really make that much of a difference
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I started yesterday. Skated today. This one time didn’t help is what I can say now 😄
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Stick with the stretching, at the very least it'll keep things from getting worse. Make sure you are wearing shoes that work for your feet (and the rest of your body), and drink lots of water. If you smoke cigs, quit...few things are worse for your body.

Also, FWIW, Ventures have a pretty heavy pop feel and can be kind of a workout to get off the ground, even in their lighter iterations. You would be surprised how much easier some heavier trucks (Ace specifically) are to get off the ground, though the turn is very different. I realize I am in direct contradiction to another advice post, but it is different for everyone and I find lighter pop feel matters way more than lighter weight.

I'll be 40 in two months and I still skate every day.

I have to say the thunders felt strange in the beginning to me. Slowly I’m really getting used to them.

The pop and manuals felt really weird to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 01, 2022, 10:26:41 AM
How come even though they are pretty much the opposite of each other, venture as well as ace are something of a manual cheat code?
While the pop feel and everything else may feel like shit until you get used to it, the manuals are on point when switching to these trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TurdyBird on May 01, 2022, 10:38:17 AM
Annoying, nerd here.

My friend who is an athletic trainer says to do dynamic stretches and foam roller before skating. After skating do static stretches and foam roller. Static stretching before can lead to injury/strain.

Soon to be 34 and just got on with dynamic leg stretches. I find it helps, and begins the warm up process

PS to @Mantracker appreciate you measuring those boards out!! Once I realized I never measured my  32.25 long wknd I used and it was around 32-31.9
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on May 01, 2022, 11:31:29 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MU5iMKXb0&list=PLa3hlvLTzVPUIvatXeHH5n3zpu_iyTGpH&index=2&t=16s
Stretches led by a guy with cute dog sidekick
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 01, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
I speak out loud to it just so all the shop employees can engage in the process with me.

Lately tho I pick like a few shapes I am interested in, stand on them and put my feet in a few trick positions then pick the one I’m feeling the most. I leave the others on the ground for other customers to trip over and I tell the shop employees to stop doing marijuanas and fucking pick up the shit off the ground like they’re getting paid to do. Sometimes I just come in and do this even if I don’t want a deck.
STOP DOING MARIJUANAS —- fucking LOL!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: caked on May 02, 2022, 08:23:51 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MU5iMKXb0&list=PLa3hlvLTzVPUIvatXeHH5n3zpu_iyTGpH&index=2&t=16s
Stretches led by a guy with cute dog sidekick

thank you for sharing this! I've been actively trying to do stretches for my lower back more, since I sit in my home office for work all day. Since I've started doing some stretches/poses, I've noticed improvement and less back pain after skating. I definitely needed a regimen that was detailed but easy to do in a short amount of time - exactly this video! The adorable dog is just the cherry on top.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 03, 2022, 05:39:46 AM
Do you guys wear the same size in slip-ons or do you size down for those? I wear 11 in most shoes but my heel slides like crazy in slips.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 03, 2022, 05:47:48 AM
Do you guys wear the same size in slip-ons or do you size down for those? I wear 11 in most shoes but my heel slides like crazy in slips.

Only had the dc jaakko slip ons and the fit was great, same size as always.
If that counts, the emerica romero laced, which can be used without laces, also fits right.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 03, 2022, 06:26:59 AM
The Vans skate slip ons fit really tight now some people go a half size up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 03, 2022, 06:39:30 AM
Do you guys wear the same size in slip-ons or do you size down for those? I wear 11 in most shoes but my heel slides like crazy in slips.

I'd say it depends on the model, usually tts but I bought some Vans X Public snowboards skate slip ons on sale for dirt cheap ($40) and they are crazy tight. Length and width is as usual for vans slip ons, but super tight on the top of my feet. Seems like the new skate version are much tighter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 03, 2022, 07:06:09 PM
Thanks, sounds like the newer vans skate slips should do the trick 👍
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 04, 2022, 06:09:24 AM
Why I need to put my front foot so far back for some flips, like 360 flips, varial heels,  steep frontside flips or hardflips for example?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 04, 2022, 06:28:23 AM
Why I need to put my front foot so far back for some flips, like 360 flips, varial heels,  steep frontside flips or hardflips for example?

Laws of physics probably
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on May 04, 2022, 06:43:08 AM
Why I need to put my front foot so far back for some flips, like 360 flips, varial heels,  steep frontside flips or hardflips for example?

On tricks you know how to do front foot placement is determined by back foot placement and vice versa, so depending on how much you use your back foot on tricks (the various ways you get used to popping to optimize board movement) you will set up your front foot according to where it will optimally respond to the motion. Good analogy is to think of a flip trick like a formula, let's say a 360 flip = 100, could be 80% back foot and 20% front foot action or 70-30, 90-10, 60-40 or really whatever works to successfully attain the desired result (missing it would result in either too much or not enough board rotation). It will look completely different everytime and rely on slightly different technique but my point is it's a matter of balance whatever works or looks the way it does.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MadeYouLook on May 04, 2022, 07:24:57 AM
Why are my kickflips better off the nose? They rocket when popped off the tail.
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Post by: Idk on May 04, 2022, 07:33:20 AM
Why are my kickflips better off the nose? They rocket when popped off the tail.
Maybe better for you to skate a simple shaped board. Or skate the G027 it has a bigger tail than nose.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 04, 2022, 07:56:08 AM
Why are my kickflips better off the nose? They rocket when popped off the tail.
Maybe it's not getting as much pop before your flick levels it out. or it's actually for a second more rocket making your flick more effective in leveling it out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ol Nick on May 04, 2022, 07:56:51 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
The fuck?? I’ve only seen that from wax/lube squeezing out. Is the bushing somehow interacting with the titanium bolt to melt it? Maybe not chemical but like friction or something?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 04, 2022, 08:00:07 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)

You're going to need a young priest and an old priest....
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 04, 2022, 09:00:37 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)

Maybe rolled through a puddle at some point?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 04, 2022, 09:31:55 AM
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On tricks you know how to do front foot placement is determined by back foot placement and vice versa, so depending on how much you use your back foot on tricks (the various ways you get used to popping to optimize board movement) you will set up your front foot according to where it will optimally respond to the motion. Good analogy is to think of a flip trick like a formula, let's say a 360 flip = 100, could be 80% back foot and 20% front foot action or 70-30, 90-10, 60-40 or really whatever works to successfully attain the desired result (missing it would result in either too much or not enough board rotation). It will look completely different everytime and rely on slightly different technique but my point is it's a matter of balance whatever works or looks the way it does.

Thanks. My problem with this is that keeping balance is way harder when your feet are closest together.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 04, 2022, 09:40:18 AM
Maybe rolled through a puddle at some point?

Yeah, that's the thing, It was after getting it off my bike (I ride into town to skate) and I had a bag over my board (and it wasn't there when strapped my board to my rack). I wiped the soot off. Then more started leaking out when I started skating.

The fuck?? I’ve only seen that from wax/lube squeezing out. Is the bushing somehow interacting with the titanium bolt to melt it? Maybe not chemical but like friction or something?

They do squeak really loud, maybe the Krus bushings are melting somehow.

You're going to need a young priest and an old priest....

Lmao!!! Oh no. Imma take it apart the next rainy day and I'll post my findings.  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on May 04, 2022, 10:13:05 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
Might could be some byproduct of the mfg. process?
Maybe the Ermico foundry applied a lickle bit of grease to ease the kingpin in during the pressing process (though I’ve never heard of this previously)?
Either that, or your bushings have contracted a bad case of Ebola.
Please fill us in w/ your discover, once you take ‘em apart.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on May 04, 2022, 10:20:12 AM
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On tricks you know how to do front foot placement is determined by back foot placement and vice versa, so depending on how much you use your back foot on tricks (the various ways you get used to popping to optimize board movement) you will set up your front foot according to where it will optimally respond to the motion. Good analogy is to think of a flip trick like a formula, let's say a 360 flip = 100, could be 80% back foot and 20% front foot action or 70-30, 90-10, 60-40 or really whatever works to successfully attain the desired result (missing it would result in either too much or not enough board rotation). It will look completely different everytime and rely on slightly different technique but my point is it's a matter of balance whatever works or looks the way it does.
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Thanks. My problem with this is that keeping balance is way harder when your feet are closest together.

I have that on some tricks too, or at least used to back when I was learning them and then some I cleaned up a bit in terms of form (and some others probably still look like I just learned them). Do you have short legs by chance? That's my case and I usually see shorter skaters (or little kids) do that, but it's just a way to make do with the specificities of our body to still achieve the desired form on certain tricks. Anyway since like I was saying it's all about compensating forces, you can probably clean up your tricks by consciously experimenting with different foot placement and technique, but to be fair I think usually that naturally happens by just skating a lot, repeating the same motions all the time we actually refine efficiency baby step by baby step throughout time anyway through the continuous trial and error process. Basically if it's actually annoying then you'll end up working it out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 04, 2022, 10:21:16 AM
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My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
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You're going to need a young priest and an old priest....

Reminds me of the black stuff on the building walls in Archive 81. Kaelego has somehow found a way into our world through your trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 04, 2022, 10:49:40 AM
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On tricks you know how to do front foot placement is determined by back foot placement and vice versa, so depending on how much you use your back foot on tricks (the various ways you get used to popping to optimize board movement) you will set up your front foot according to where it will optimally respond to the motion. Good analogy is to think of a flip trick like a formula, let's say a 360 flip = 100, could be 80% back foot and 20% front foot action or 70-30, 90-10, 60-40 or really whatever works to successfully attain the desired result (missing it would result in either too much or not enough board rotation). It will look completely different everytime and rely on slightly different technique but my point is it's a matter of balance whatever works or looks the way it does.
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Thanks. My problem with this is that keeping balance is way harder when your feet are closest together.
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I have that on some tricks too, or at least used to back when I was learning them and then some I cleaned up a bit in terms of form (and some others probably still look like I just learned them). Do you have short legs by chance? That's my case and I usually see shorter skaters (or little kids) do that, but it's just a way to make do with the specificities of our body to still achieve the desired form on certain tricks. Anyway since like I was saying it's all about compensating forces, you can probably clean up your tricks by consciously experimenting with different foot placement and technique, but to be fair I think usually that naturally happens by just skating a lot, repeating the same motions all the time we actually refine efficiency baby step by baby step throughout time anyway through the continuous trial and error process. Basically if it's actually annoying then you'll end up working it out.

No short legs, but maybe I do this because I Learned those tricks with 14 back in the days. I don’t know. But with my feet further apart I can’t do those tricks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: dr.prestige on May 04, 2022, 10:51:26 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)

What kind of bonding agent did you use to mount that aftermarket kingpin into the baseplate? Perhaps that's degrading
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on May 04, 2022, 01:56:15 PM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)

What’s even going on here? White bushings with a 3 mm piece of black gunk on top? Where’s the washer? Why can I not see the kingpin? Either way something very uncommon is going on and unless we get a better explanation and solution imma back the guy calling for the exorcist!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 04, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)

Haunted
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on May 04, 2022, 04:11:42 PM
I've got a question about a core shop that wants to sell Nike.

Let's say the shop's been around for a few decades, so it's established. I think that's one of the criteria that Nike uses to allow shoes to be sold in a shop.

What are the steps for the shop to sell Nikes, and what are any potential pitfalls or minuses of selling Nikes in a shop? Do they still require you to take on ALL the inventory that they want you to sell? I remember that being a thing years ago. If so, is that manageable, or is it too much for shops to deal with?

Wondering about this, any info is much appreciated!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 04, 2022, 04:34:33 PM
what are any potential pitfalls or minuses of selling Nikes in a shop?

I can answer this part. This is based off my experience working at my local which sells Nike SB.

Ironically, biggest downside is going to be Dunks. You will receive nonstop calls about Dunks, especially when there's a release date coming up. You will also get accused nonstop of backdooring Dunks from people who get salty from not getting a pair and you can't do anything about it. Even if you have a Nike account, it'll take time to get Dunks because you can only get those if you have a good relationship with Nike (such as ordering shoes regularly, paying invoices on time, etc) and can only get the Orange Label line if you're best friends with Nike.

Once in a while, it can get really sketchy when it comes to Dunk releases. The last time my shop got dunks, a few sneakerheads that didn't get a pair just hung around outside for much longer than usual.  One guy just sat in his car for almost an hour just watching the shop while talking to someone on the phone. We just assumed that him and the others were trying to see if we were going to backdoor some pairs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on May 04, 2022, 06:52:05 PM
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I can answer this part. This is based off my experience working at my local which sells Nike SB.

Ironically, biggest downside is going to be Dunks. You will receive nonstop calls about Dunks, especially when there's a release date coming up. You will also get accused nonstop of backdooring Dunks from people who get salty from not getting a pair and you can't do anything about it. Even if you have a Nike account, it'll take time to get Dunks because you can only get those if you have a good relationship with Nike (such as ordering shoes regularly, paying invoices on time, etc) and can only get the Orange Label line if you're best friends with Nike.

Once in a while, it can get really sketchy when it comes to Dunk releases. The last time my shop got dunks, a few sneakerheads that didn't get a pair just hung around outside for much longer than usual.  One guy just sat in his car for almost an hour just watching the shop while talking to someone on the phone. We just assumed that him and the others were trying to see if we were going to backdoor some pairs.

That’s really intriguing, gnarred. Especially about the relationship giving way to more exclusive releases.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 04, 2022, 09:09:03 PM
Yo7 owe it to yourself to fuck with those type of people….if you have any friends with kids, have, them bring them in and leave with some boxes, but with no child…..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 04, 2022, 09:26:10 PM
Yo7 owe it to yourself to fuck with those type of people….if you have any friends with kids, have, them bring them in and leave with some boxes, but with no child…..

Have them walk out with Nike SB boxes filled with Cariumas
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 05, 2022, 01:34:00 AM
I've got a question about a core shop that wants to sell Nike.

Let's say the shop's been around for a few decades, so it's established. I think that's one of the criteria that Nike uses to allow shoes to be sold in a shop.

What are the steps for the shop to sell Nikes, and what are any potential pitfalls or minuses of selling Nikes in a shop? Do they still require you to take on ALL the inventory that they want you to sell? I remember that being a thing years ago. If so, is that manageable, or is it too much for shops to deal with?

Wondering about this, any info is much appreciated!

I would say it's pointless to wonder
They are closing accounts left and right, they keep a few shops in order to brag about caring about shops and go the direct to customer route.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on May 05, 2022, 02:49:55 AM
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My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
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You're going to need a young priest and an old priest....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OELYJ18gwWU
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Solex on May 05, 2022, 04:52:28 AM
My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
Sprinkle some holy water on it and tell us what's going on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 05, 2022, 05:04:24 AM
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My bushings have been bleeding black shit. I've never had this happen before, has anyone else? I didn't put any grease or wax into the trucks. Weird, no?

(https://i.imgur.com/mACX53U.png)
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What’s even going on here? White bushings with a 3 mm piece of black gunk on top? Where’s the washer? Why can I not see the kingpin? Either way something very uncommon is going on and unless we get a better explanation and solution imma back the guy calling for the exorcist!

Exorcists are tight.

Anyway I hope you figure it out and your trucks can be healed. My guess is, something slim and slimy got between your bushing and kingpin head, but there are things in this universe we will never understand.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on May 05, 2022, 05:30:54 AM
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I've got a question about a core shop that wants to sell Nike.

Let's say the shop's been around for a few decades, so it's established. I think that's one of the criteria that Nike uses to allow shoes to be sold in a shop.

What are the steps for the shop to sell Nikes, and what are any potential pitfalls or minuses of selling Nikes in a shop? Do they still require you to take on ALL the inventory that they want you to sell? I remember that being a thing years ago. If so, is that manageable, or is it too much for shops to deal with?

Wondering about this, any info is much appreciated!
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I would say it's pointless to wonder
They are closing accounts left and right, they keep a few shops in order to brag about caring about shops and go the direct to customer route.

That sucks. I'm asking because there's a shop in my area that doesn't sell Nike but I think (or maybe now thought) it would really beneficial for them to open an account.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on May 05, 2022, 06:42:26 PM
how is the sole on the BMX vans slip on? they’re cupsole construction right? i’ve been looking for a new cupsole option (preferably a low top) and want something not too bulky. figured the bmx slips were wafflecup which i’m a big fan of.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 05, 2022, 07:48:01 PM
how is the sole on the BMX vans slip on? they’re cupsole construction right? i’ve been looking for a new cupsole option (preferably a low top) and want something not too bulky. figured the bmx slips were wafflecup which i’m a big fan of.


I haven't seen anything recently about them, but this thread from a while back had some good close up pics and info.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114021


Super solid shoes all round in the sole and sides department.  Not sure how a slip on would work with that, but if they are out there, I guess they have found a way to incorporate the solid sole with the simple upper.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on May 05, 2022, 08:03:36 PM
how is the sole on the BMX vans slip on? they’re cupsole construction right? i’ve been looking for a new cupsole option (preferably a low top) and want something not too bulky. figured the bmx slips were wafflecup which i’m a big fan of.
They are a Slip-On Pro with a Kyle Walker sole, straight up. I like the feel of them but I do feel like a tech bro when I wear them. They feel nice though and I was glad that they did not use the Slip-On Skate construction. Like the old Slip-On Pro of yore, they are tight as when you first get them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on May 06, 2022, 03:41:30 AM
If measuring decks in metric became the standard would it make peoples madness less or worse?
For me I think often I'd be like oh it's only 3mm who cares but I can imagine (maybe more so with imperial users) some others being like wtf 3mm that's huge

It wouldn't help me. I obsess most about pop angle and the units of measure wouldn't tell me what I want to know about that.

What I need to know is the rise and run of the tail or nose. If I'm lucky some brands or websites will list the tail or nose length But even when that information is correct, and it frequently isn't, it doesn't take into account the fingers of flat nor the angle of the tail.

Powell decks are pretty steady at 18° but other brands that I've been able to measure myself range between 20 to 23°. A 20° tail that measures six and 5/8 long and has a lot of fingers of flat is going to feel a whole lot different than a six and a half inch tail at 23° with very few fingers of flat.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 06, 2022, 04:06:38 AM
i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 06, 2022, 04:13:15 AM
i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.

axle is 8.35" on 44 classics
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 06, 2022, 04:20:43 AM
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i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.
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axle is 8.35" on 44 classics

i know, but the wheels are offset and i don't know how much they add to the overall width, from edge of one wheel to the edge of the other
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 06, 2022, 04:30:08 AM
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i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.
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axle is 8.35" on 44 classics
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i know, but the wheels are offset and i don't know how much they add to the overall width, from edge of one wheel to the edge of the other

my bad, i read it too fast

NHS usually answers questions on their website, maybe give it a try:
https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-hot-juice-orange-78a-oj-skateboard-wheels (https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-hot-juice-orange-78a-oj-skateboard-wheels)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 06, 2022, 04:33:22 AM
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i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.
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axle is 8.35" on 44 classics
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i know, but the wheels are offset and i don't know how much they add to the overall width, from edge of one wheel to the edge of the other
Theyre listed as 47.75 wide (so just say 48mm) and if the bearing is flush on the inside face could you measure 48mm from the edge of the hanger? Maybe take off a mm for a washer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 06, 2022, 06:50:32 AM
i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.

Can't find the pics right now but I used this wheel/truck combo for a cruiser before. You got a couple options:

1. Ride the Hot Juice as intended, deeper conical side out. If you're doing that, you can go as low as 8.5" over the trucks if you do no washers on the inside. Anything lower than that, and you're going to have some wheel peeking out.

2. Turn the hot juice inside out so it covers a bit of your truck. Not ideal if you're still planning to grind, but if you do that you cat get away with all the normal stuff you would with a 44 classic and go pretty low.

Hope that helps. If I can find pics I will post them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 06, 2022, 10:42:46 AM
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i have old ace classic 44s that i want to use for a cruiser and i want to get oj 60mm hot juice wheels for it. my question is what size deck i would have to buy for it to be somewhat flush with the wheels? i want a shaped board so if the wheels stick out a little bit because it tapers that's not a problem, but i want to be able to kickflip that board.
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axle is 8.35" on 44 classics
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i know, but the wheels are offset and i don't know how much they add to the overall width, from edge of one wheel to the edge of the other

The lip of the wheel sticks out about 3/16 in. past the axle. So 44 Classics are… let’s call it 8 3/8 in. wide, add the 3/8 in. from the the overhang on both sides, and you’re probably looking at around 8.75 in. total width. Maybe an 8.8 or 9-inch deck? Or maybe like a 9.25 if it’s a shaped deck.

I have a Beach Bum I ride with 169s and 60mm Hot Juices. It’s a hot rod, but it sorta looks right on that shape, and it’s really fun. Can only imagine it being better on Aces. I think the Hot Juices have a forgiving wheelbite because of how thin the edge of the wheel is. It kinda bends when it hits the deck, so you get more of a soft scrape rather than an abrupt stop.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on May 06, 2022, 09:08:45 PM
What's the word on bamboo decks?
I've been thinking about getting one because of saving the earth or whatever, but I'd also like to save my wallet if possible.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 06, 2022, 11:19:01 PM
Got free shopgrip but am reluctant to use it but the stingy bastard in me is also reluctant to shell out 10 bucks for a sheet of Miles. The shopgrip has the shopname on it (small) and feels a bit coarse. Decisions… what would you do?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on May 06, 2022, 11:56:03 PM
48mm = 1.89 inches
i would divide that by 2, seems logical
probably go for a full 9.25-9.5 deck for a flush fit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 07, 2022, 12:13:44 AM
Got free shopgrip but am reluctant to use it but the stingy bastard in me is also reluctant to shell out 10 bucks for a sheet of Miles. The shopgrip has the shopname on it (small) and feels a bit coarse. Decisions… what would you do?
My local also paints their name on the grip but big like fake shake junt so I never use it but if it's not too awful I would use the grip and of its shit just peel it off. Years ago I'd cut the grip into 4 and sell it to scooter kids/mum's of scooter kids but now I don't want any of that interaction
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 07, 2022, 05:01:50 AM
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Got free shopgrip but am reluctant to use it but the stingy bastard in me is also reluctant to shell out 10 bucks for a sheet of Miles. The shopgrip has the shopname on it (small) and feels a bit coarse. Decisions… what would you do?
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My local also paints their name on the grip but big like fake shake junt so I never use it but if it's not too awful I would use the grip and of its shit just peel it off. Years ago I'd cut the grip into 4 and sell it to scooter kids/mum's of scooter kids but now I don't want any of that interaction

Lol‘d at the thought of peddling grip to scooter moms, have a gnar.

The thing is I got the bloards from a non core online shop because my local doesn‘t have twin tails which is all I ride, but that means I can‘t just cut out the shop logo as it is where you have the top graphics but the whole point of riding twins is being able to go both ways and having a cut out on one side would feel wrong.

Anyway I still got a sheet of Miles so I can think this through some more.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 07, 2022, 05:08:24 AM
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Got free shopgrip but am reluctant to use it but the stingy bastard in me is also reluctant to shell out 10 bucks for a sheet of Miles. The shopgrip has the shopname on it (small) and feels a bit coarse. Decisions… what would you do?
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My local also paints their name on the grip but big like fake shake junt so I never use it but if it's not too awful I would use the grip and of its shit just peel it off. Years ago I'd cut the grip into 4 and sell it to scooter kids/mum's of scooter kids but now I don't want any of that interaction


If it is too coarse, you can always use a grip offcut and dust it back a touch.

We used to cut the names / logos out of the grip and then use the rest in such a way that you would never know that you didn't have plain grip - running the sheet sideways across the main body of a board uses way less and has minimal waste too, but anything bigger than a simple or small logo or name makes a shop sheet useless to me. 

At least I keep them and give them away to people (kids) who might have more interest in free grip, with some people even being stoked on things like that.

As for buying grip, it never hurts to find a discounted supply of some plain grip in your preferred feel or brand and keep that safe for if or when you need it.  Finding Jessup by the roll was like a little bird singing in my soul...  well not quite, but as it is getting harder to come by for me, I am pretty stoked I have enough to last a while now anyway.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on May 07, 2022, 09:20:10 AM
Any suggestions for pivot cup lube besides speed cream or wax? I can’t stand the squeak, and it always comes back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on May 07, 2022, 10:35:04 AM
some people said soap also works
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 07, 2022, 10:36:18 AM
Any suggestions for pivot cup lube besides speed cream or wax? I can’t stand the squeak, and it always comes back.

Wax isn’t ideal because it’s going to chip away easily. A very thin coat of waterproof marine grade grease (a tub is like $5 at any auto parts store and it’s the same grease you should use for basically anything else in daily life) will usually be ideal. I might thing twice about doing it with polyurethane cups, if you are using those, because the grease could react negatively. With the hard thermoplastic cups that come with most trucks, it shouldn’t have a reaction in any kind of time scale relevant to skateboard trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 07, 2022, 11:15:38 AM
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Any suggestions for pivot cup lube besides speed cream or wax? I can’t stand the squeak, and it always comes back.
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Wax isn’t ideal because it’s going to chip away easily. A very thin coat of waterproof marine grade grease (a tub is like $5 at any auto parts store and it’s the same grease you should use for basically anything else in daily life) will usually be ideal. I might thing twice about doing it with polyurethane cups, if you are using those, because the grease could react negatively. With the hard thermoplastic cups that come with most trucks, it shouldn’t have a reaction in any kind of time scale relevant to skateboard trucks.

this got me thinking - riptide has their 'internal lube' thing going, is that an actual lubricant or is that more marketing speak for using urethane vs thermoplastic as mentioned above. and if there is a lube involved, wonder what it is...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on May 07, 2022, 11:50:57 AM
Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 07, 2022, 12:53:32 PM
Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade

Every part of a truck is better than it was ten years ago. Fewer cracked hangers, slipped axles, better bushings, no broken kingpins. I assume that the major truck makers just started using higher quality material.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 07, 2022, 01:05:52 PM
Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade

I think it's mostly about the good stuff getting affordable. They could have used the same stuff in the 90s, but it would have been stupid expensive. And it's only gonna get better in the future, fuck yeah materials science!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 07, 2022, 01:08:59 PM
The design has improved too….the geo and they don’t vibrate as bad…I took a set up I had from’89 for a spin last year…snapped the kingpin in an hour….

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattdlx on May 07, 2022, 01:46:27 PM
^ also helps that, as a whole, folks are riding their trucks looser. Less broken kingpins (but more bushing / pivot issues).
Also gap/stair skating being less prominent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on May 07, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Has anyone skated the "Blem" blank decks from CCS? Might want to buy them but I would like to know the shape and wheelbase.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on May 07, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Has anyone skated the "Blem" blank decks from CCS? Might want to buy them but I would like to know the shape and wheelbase.
I’d just be scared of getting a warped board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 07, 2022, 08:17:20 PM
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Has anyone skated the "Blem" blank decks from CCS? Might want to buy them but I would like to know the shape and wheelbase.
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I’d just be scared of getting a warped board

I’ve found most warped boards don’t stay warped for more than a few sessions tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 07, 2022, 09:45:31 PM
Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade
I hate to say it makes me so happy to hear this. I brought up the same thing a while back and literally everyone was like wtf kingpins never broke. Venture even seem to be the same design so I'm too scared to buy them. Every other weekend a kingpin would break and then every other time you'd try to change it the baseplate would break. Fuck the old days.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on May 08, 2022, 02:33:04 PM
Is Colin McKay the best street skater to be known primarily for his vert skills?

I'm not talking atv, park skater, but actually of the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zwLL9bk1Sg
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2022, 02:38:03 PM
Is Colin McKay the best street skater to be known primarily for his vert skills?

I'm not talking atv, park skater, but actually of the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zwLL9bk1Sg

By how you’ve worded this…maybe?
Like I think Chany was better all around, but…he was known as primarily a street skater. Same with Alphonzo  Rawls.
Colin brought the most street stuff to vert, his tech ledge tricks performed on vert coping are pretty incredible.
So, yeah?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 08, 2022, 05:00:26 PM
Colin is a vert guy….I’m pretty sure he’d tell you that……street guys who skated vert is more like Mike V or Jason Lee….

You guys are talking vert guys who skated street…..

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2022, 05:07:44 PM
Colin is a vert guy….I’m pretty sure he’d tell you that……street guys who skated vert is more like Mike V or Jason Lee….

You guys are talking vert guys who skated street…..

Yes. Now I agree with you. Influenced.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on May 08, 2022, 05:13:15 PM
Colin is a vert guy….I’m pretty sure he’d tell you that……street guys who skated vert is more like Mike V or Jason Lee….

You guys are talking vert guys who skated street…..

To me, what you're saying is just a testament to what I'm saying: he's fully credible as a vert skater, to the point that it eclipses the fact that he's a street skater.

You could take the vert out of his virtual reality part and it would still be legit. Shelltoes, hoodies, downtown hijinx, sw front blunts in parking garages and flips out of slides, couldn't get much more street in '93...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 08, 2022, 06:39:07 PM
That’s just a skater in the 90’s…..he was such a vert guy and so down for it, that he brought street to vert to essentially save it.  It sounds melodramatic but it’s true, he could have just been a street guy, never touch a vert ramp again ie. Steve Berra….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on May 09, 2022, 12:00:39 AM
^ also helps that, as a whole, folks are riding their trucks looser. Less broken kingpins (but more bushing / pivot issues).
Also gap/stair skating being less prominent.

Good thing about this is the bushing/pivot issues are easier to repair for truck longevity. For a long time, a broken kingpin meant buying new trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on May 09, 2022, 03:17:10 AM
I have a question/theory thing:

Smaller feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole on the side of the shoe

Larger feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole closer to the toes and not on the side of the shoe.

I know technique of ollie plays a large role, but there has to be some scientific relationship here between shoe size and surface area affecting ollie hole placement.

Thoughts?


FWIW:  I'm an 11-11.5 and my ollie hole area almost always is closer to the toe than it is on the side where those rubber bumpers usually get placed (AA Authentic High, Emerica Pillar, etc.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 09, 2022, 03:29:15 AM
I have a question/theory thing:

Smaller feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole on the side of the shoe

Larger feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole closer to the toes and not on the side of the shoe.

I know technique of ollie plays a large role, but there has to be some scientific relationship here between shoe size and surface area affecting ollie hole placement.

Thoughts?


FWIW:  I'm an 11-11.5 and my ollie hole area almost always is closer to the toe than it is on the side where those rubber bumpers usually get placed (AA Authentic High, Emerica Pillar, etc.)
I kinda had a similar theory in the worn out shoes thread. Same general idea but more about wearing the top eyelets and collar of the shoe out more if you have smaller feet. I wear 13s and I think my Ollie holes in a pretty normal spot (imagine a pair of vans old skool my Ollie hole will be in that little shape of stitching on the side)but I don't wear out the collar of the shoe much at all unless I'm on a backside or frontside heel streak which honestly isn't very often.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on May 09, 2022, 08:22:19 AM
has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on May 09, 2022, 08:56:29 AM
has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 09, 2022, 12:27:26 PM
Wrong thread.

My question is

I have a cd I burned with pals video songs. I made enough to last more than a few seasons.

I don’t have a cd drive computer available. The one in public I was using the library replaced and the new one don’t frickin work.

How do I send these? Where do I go like staples or something?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 09, 2022, 01:08:10 PM
I've snapped 2 DLX 8.38 in a row. tail snaps both times when skating switch. The decks are fairly flat/long and I can pop pretty well on it, but is there a reason why I snap longer boards more?
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Post by: botefdunn on May 09, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
I've snapped 2 DLX 8.38 in a row. tail snaps both times when skating switch. The decks are fairly flat/long and I can pop pretty well on it, but is there a reason why I snap longer boards more?

Give me a deck long enough and a truck on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
                                                -Archimedes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on May 09, 2022, 02:37:52 PM
more space away from the bolts to land on?
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Post by: BALARGUE on May 10, 2022, 03:13:06 AM
I have a question/theory thing:

Smaller feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole on the side of the shoe

Larger feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole closer to the toes and not on the side of the shoe.

I know technique of ollie plays a large role, but there has to be some scientific relationship here between shoe size and surface area affecting ollie hole placement.

Thoughts?


FWIW:  I'm an 11-11.5 and my ollie hole area almost always is closer to the toe than it is on the side where those rubber bumpers usually get placed (AA Authentic High, Emerica Pillar, etc.)

pretty sur it has nothing to do with feet size
10US here and i wear my shoes / make a hole on the side / collar (right in the middle of the shoe)
A friend is 9.5US and only wear over the toes

Running a shop, i see loads of fucked up shoes. It doesn't seem like there's a correlation with size
we just have different techniques
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 10, 2022, 04:26:09 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.


Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 10, 2022, 05:13:22 AM
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
Depends how you want them to fit on you but if you don't want to size up what I did years ago was super glue the zip so it stayed done up and not do up the little clip thing at the top.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 10, 2022, 05:59:39 AM
Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade

Wanted to chime in on this from a page back. Kingpins are definitely stronger now. When Mullen released the original Tensor he was the first I know of to use the button head kingpin we are familiar with today. It’s grade 8 steel. The old hex heads prior, not only heavier, were only a grade 5 steel. The button head, grade 8 became the industry standard and all trucks are lighter and stronger to thank for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 10, 2022, 08:56:05 AM
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Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade
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Wanted to chime in on this from a page back. Kingpins are definitely stronger now. When Mullen released the original Tensor he was the first I know of to use the button head kingpin we are familiar with today. It’s grade 8 steel. The old hex heads prior, not only heavier, were only a grade 5 steel. The button head, grade 8 became the industry standard and all trucks are lighter and stronger to thank for it.
Indys and ventures had the button kingpins too and they always broke. Funnily enough I had a set of og tensors I kept in my backpack and would often end up switching back to when I broke my Indy/ventures. My memory is theeve came out everyone switched to them (at least in Aus) and never had a problem, then thunder came out with the 149, then the forged baseplate everyone switched to them and never had a problem then Indy updated their trucks and everyone switched back and never really had a problem again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on May 10, 2022, 09:06:57 AM
aight so everyone does tricks in their own way at the end of the day… but when people say “pop straight down” (read/heard this advice a ton) do they mean straight down through your leg or straight down through the kick?

i never asked this q because its hard to word…

Like if the kick is at a roughly 45deg angle, is “popping straight down” popping at 0 deg or at 45?

Edit for clarity but maybe more confusion:
The 45 degree pop down “through” the kick could also be described as popping “back” if that makes any sense at all
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 10, 2022, 09:19:17 AM
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Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade
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Wanted to chime in on this from a page back. Kingpins are definitely stronger now. When Mullen released the original Tensor he was the first I know of to use the button head kingpin we are familiar with today. It’s grade 8 steel. The old hex heads prior, not only heavier, were only a grade 5 steel. The button head, grade 8 became the industry standard and all trucks are lighter and stronger to thank for it.

This is interesting. When I was in middle school/high school i rode royals a lot because my friends older brother was flow (?) I think, and those kingpins broke constantly...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on May 10, 2022, 10:00:09 AM
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Something we were pondering at the skatepark the other day - why did kingpins stop snapping about 10 years ago? Did the metal used change in quality? When I was young we couldn't go a Saturday without someone in the crew snapping a kingpin but I literally don't think I've even seen it happen in over a decade
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Wanted to chime in on this from a page back. Kingpins are definitely stronger now. When Mullen released the original Tensor he was the first I know of to use the button head kingpin we are familiar with today. It’s grade 8 steel. The old hex heads prior, not only heavier, were only a grade 5 steel. The button head, grade 8 became the industry standard and all trucks are lighter and stronger to thank for it.

I remember Tensor making a big deal out of this in their early marketing.

I actually still remember how to look at the markings on the heads to figure out the grading because of it.  Grade 5 has 3 ridges on the head/button and grade 8 has 6 ridges.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on May 11, 2022, 12:05:51 AM
anyone else get bad nostalgia from specific skate videos? sigh...
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Post by: mvdbosch90 on May 11, 2022, 04:52:33 AM
anyone else get bad nostalgia from specific skate videos? sigh...

Almost Round 3
Elementality Volume 1
Flip Really Sorry
The DC Video
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 11, 2022, 04:58:18 AM
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anyone else get bad nostalgia from specific skate videos? sigh...
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Almost Round 3
Elementality Volume 1
Flip Really Sorry
The DC Video
Not too bad but that sorta 09-14 period of Dylan, Austyn, gravis, alien etc can get me. I never went too tight pants with thin gravis whatever but I def dressed nice button ups etc for those years. Sad old man misses being in his prime type feeling of seen on the wrong day lol. Then ipath promo type of stuff is like the salad days nostalgia
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on May 11, 2022, 07:34:09 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.


do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bunk Moreland on May 11, 2022, 07:40:31 AM
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
I always size up like 2 sizes in dickies, but I think they’re the same cut, so they sit the same.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 11, 2022, 07:45:19 AM
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?

Not in my experience. They’re essentially the same pant but with the added stretch in the fabric. There’s no give in the waist so I still size up on 874 flex
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2022, 07:58:23 AM

The 874 flex pair that I tried on seemed tighter all over than the usual 874 pants, but that was one pair on one day and I didn't buy them, mainly because I had so many of the normal 874 pants, but I didn't want to have options for different things and then buy a whole lot more.


In general, from buying half a dozen pairs of the same pants at the same time (yes even same colour) when I had a good deal, the fit and sizing varied significantly, so as much as some will be just right, others were way too big and some were too small, so I don't know if anything has changed in that regard, but trying them on is a must, or more commonly buying a size up and just going with whatever comes, as I have learned to do over the years.

I like the bit more room the next size up gives me as well, but everyone wears them to their own tastes.  When people were wearing them lower, they were more likely to rip the inseam or have other issues with limited movement as they are designed to sit high, compared to the other 873 or 872 versions, which sit a lot lower on the hips than anything else.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 11, 2022, 08:21:48 PM
I have a question/theory thing:

Smaller feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole on the side of the shoe

Larger feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole closer to the toes and not on the side of the shoe.

I know technique of ollie plays a large role, but there has to be some scientific relationship here between shoe size and surface area affecting ollie hole placement.

Thoughts?


FWIW:  I'm an 11-11.5 and my ollie hole area almost always is closer to the toe than it is on the side where those rubber bumpers usually get placed (AA Authentic High, Emerica Pillar, etc.)

I think we need to study this closer sometime.

I have small feets. And I get my Ollie hole here

(https://i.ibb.co/BCLNQpG/46-DF491-C-DF56-4983-A1-A5-4-CEB435-FB9-B8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z4sJBMF)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 12, 2022, 10:57:06 AM
 i have small feet and i get ollie holes in that same area, but i would assume most of the wear is due to a bunion from stuffing my feet in janoskis for years in high school
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 12, 2022, 01:21:38 PM
Ledge feebles - does the ledge need to be waxed like crazy and far into the ledge for this or am I just too untalented for ledge feebles ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on May 12, 2022, 02:21:59 PM
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I have a question/theory thing:

Smaller feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole on the side of the shoe

Larger feet/shoes tend to be more likely to develop the ollie hole closer to the toes and not on the side of the shoe.

I know technique of ollie plays a large role, but there has to be some scientific relationship here between shoe size and surface area affecting ollie hole placement.

Thoughts?


FWIW:  I'm an 11-11.5 and my ollie hole area almost always is closer to the toe than it is on the side where those rubber bumpers usually get placed (AA Authentic High, Emerica Pillar, etc.)
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I think we need to study this closer sometime.

I have small feets. And I get my Ollie hole here

(https://i.ibb.co/BCLNQpG/46-DF491-C-DF56-4983-A1-A5-4-CEB435-FB9-B8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z4sJBMF)

I wear size 8 and skate 8.5 and get the same hole. But when I skated smaller boards I would get a hole closer to the toe, especially skating eras
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheLowerBack on May 12, 2022, 04:38:27 PM
Ledge feebles - does the ledge need to be waxed like crazy and far into the ledge for this or am I just too untalented for ledge feebles ?
Lean your head and shoulders away from the ledge, like you’re in transition, and chant “Mike Carrol” three times when approaching the ledge.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on May 13, 2022, 12:01:21 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
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Not in my experience. They’re essentially the same pant but with the added stretch in the fabric. There’s no give in the waist so I still size up on 874 flex

IIRC back in the day, Dickies used to be made with somewhat of a triangular gusset/pleat along the center of the back, sewn together but the stitching could be taken out with scissors or a seam ripper to give an extra inch or two in the waist. Sort of like the way Red Kap pants are, except you have to resew Red Kaps.

Not sure why they stopped doing that, probably to save production costs and to sell more pants.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TurdyBird on May 13, 2022, 12:09:35 AM
I need some real ones to tell me about the AF1 grind. I've nearly skated all trucks. Indys honestly have one of the best grinds. With that said, I've unlocked more tricks on thunders. Currently on a long WB, so I wanna shorten it up with some trucks. Dont love buying into indys because its just not my vibe. I'll buy AF1s even if they aren't indy grind worthy, but if they are really sticky I'm not down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2022, 03:55:54 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
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Not in my experience. They’re essentially the same pant but with the added stretch in the fabric. There’s no give in the waist so I still size up on 874 flex
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IIRC back in the day, Dickies used to be made with somewhat of a triangular gusset/pleat along the center of the back, sewn together but the stitching could be taken out with scissors or a seam ripper to give an extra inch or two in the waist. Sort of like the way Red Kap pants are, except you have to resew Red Kaps.

Not sure why they stopped doing that, probably to save production costs and to sell more pants.


That is going back a while, maybe all USA made for those ones and yes I did have a whole lot of those pass through my hands, many of which did get taken out as it made them fit the people in a more true size number to actual size waist, if that makes any sense.

Like everything, I think the older pants were of a better material and make than the newer ones, which are a bit more here and there in quality and fit, but they are what they are - to me just simple work pants and not a fashion brand.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2022, 03:58:30 AM
I need some real ones to tell me about the AF1 grind. I've nearly skated all trucks. Indys honestly have one of the best grinds. With that said, I've unlocked more tricks on thunders. Currently on a long WB, so I wanna shorten it up with some trucks. Dont love buying into indys because its just not my vibe. I'll buy AF1s even if they aren't indy grind worthy, but if they are really sticky I'm not down.


Others who have them have no issues with them in that regard.

The one set I have on a board skate fine - haven't really hit anything much with them, besides my ramp at home and a couple of other quick spots, but once I got used to the bushings they didn't feel any different to other brands of truck in how they were working, so I would say YES to getting some if you were thinking about it.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 13, 2022, 04:48:31 AM
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Ledge feebles - does the ledge need to be waxed like crazy and far into the ledge for this or am I just too untalented for ledge feebles ?
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Lean your head and shoulders away from the ledge, like you’re in transition, and chant “Mike Carrol” three times when approaching the ledge.

Will try that!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 13, 2022, 04:51:40 AM
How would you film this when you don’t have anybody who is a good filmer, so he can just stand or sit somewhere and film:

100 foot manual with a 6 stair at the end.

I got an iPhone 13 pro and the deathlens fish eyes.


Advices pls. Thx
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 13, 2022, 06:17:07 AM
How would you film this when you don’t have anybody who is a good filmer, so he can just stand or sit somewhere and film:

100 foot manual with a 6 stair at the end.

I got an iPhone 13 pro and the deathlens fish eyes.


Advices pls. Thx

I am not sure a fisheye would help in that case.
Maybe just post your camera at the bottom of the stairs on like a higher plateau. The wheelie would be in the picture and the drop too.

Or put your phone sideways to the spot so you get everything in the picture. Would look cool in 16:9 I think.

You might have a picture of the spot?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 13, 2022, 06:23:49 AM
I bought an iPhone tripod with retractable legs for solo sessions like that and it's pretty nice. I'm struggling to draw a mental image of this spot you're describing but if it's a matter of a good vantage point, maybe tripod it on top of your car or something?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 13, 2022, 07:39:54 AM
Oh you got me wrong! I have somebody who can film, but he can’t skate and film good enough to roll behind or next to me, so he can just stand somewhere and film.


Unfortunately no photo of the spot. It’s a 40 minutes ride from here
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 13, 2022, 08:15:39 AM
Oh you got me wrong! I have somebody who can film, but he can’t skate and film good enough to roll behind or next to me, so he can just stand somewhere and film.


Unfortunately no photo of the spot. It’s a 40 minutes ride from here
Do what fs1/2cab said but bring a ladder or something to stand on at the bottom of the stairs.(But make sure they can still catch the roll away). If it's easy for you do it a bunch of times and play around with the zoom. Eg start zoomed in and zoom out as you manual, getting closer to the filmer and try have a nice shot of the stairs at the end
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 13, 2022, 08:20:12 AM
don't think this question has a real answer but i'll throw it out there anyway.
as some of you know, older ventures have the V facing so when you ride it readable versus what venture does now which is have a design that's readable in product shots and upside down when riding a board. thunder does this as well, so is it just a dlx thing to go against what independent & co do? ace does their sizing where it's upside down in product shots as well, so i guess we can count that too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 13, 2022, 08:22:52 AM
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Oh you got me wrong! I have somebody who can film, but he can’t skate and film good enough to roll behind or next to me, so he can just stand somewhere and film.


Unfortunately no photo of the spot. It’s a 40 minutes ride from here
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Do what fs1/2cab said but bring a ladder or something to stand on at the bottom of the stairs.(But make sure they can still catch the roll away). If it's easy for you do it a bunch of times and play around with the zoom. Eg start zoomed in and zoom out as you manual, getting closer to the filmer and try have a nice shot of the stairs at the end

Thanks, so better no fisheye and just iPhone cam to zoom, yeah?
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Post by: Mean salto on May 13, 2022, 08:39:22 AM
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Oh you got me wrong! I have somebody who can film, but he can’t skate and film good enough to roll behind or next to me, so he can just stand somewhere and film.


Unfortunately no photo of the spot. It’s a 40 minutes ride from here
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Do what fs1/2cab said but bring a ladder or something to stand on at the bottom of the stairs.(But make sure they can still catch the roll away). If it's easy for you do it a bunch of times and play around with the zoom. Eg start zoomed in and zoom out as you manual, getting closer to the filmer and try have a nice shot of the stairs at the end
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Thanks, so better no fisheye and just iPhone cam to zoom, yeah?
well that's what I think. Youre going to be too far away when you start manualling. Fisheye would only really be good if they were skating near you.
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Post by: Mean salto on May 13, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
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Not in my experience. They’re essentially the same pant but with the added stretch in the fabric. There’s no give in the waist so I still size up on 874 flex
Just was looking on the Aus site, I assume everywhere gets the same stuff and there are pants they say are the same as 874 but with elastic waist. There's also pants just called "super baggy" but there's no real info on them. Altho I guess if they're already super baggy and you still have to upsize for waist you could just end up in clown pants territory
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Post by: SaySo on May 13, 2022, 10:02:26 AM
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has anyone found a way to successfully stretch the waist on a pair of 874s?
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Size up. Dickies poly/cotton twill blend will stretch out some, but it’s harsh. Don’t wash or dry them on hot.
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Yeah we used to always tell people to get the next size up in 874 and put a belt in if they were too loose around the top, which is what I have done for near on fifteen to twenty years after getting a few pairs and feeling like they were just a touch too tight in my normal size waist.

The 874 pant really need to sit up on the waist to be comfortable anyway, rather than slouch or low rise type pants.

A few guys I know who "grew" out of them put four slits in the main waistband area equally spaced, two in the front sides and two in the back sides and then used a belt and that worked for them, sort of like an expander but I don't know how much life they had left in them from doing that, or if anything more happened from cutting them.

Just an option though.
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do the 874 FLEX models sit lower on the waist than the classic 874?
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Not in my experience. They’re essentially the same pant but with the added stretch in the fabric. There’s no give in the waist so I still size up on 874 flex
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IIRC back in the day, Dickies used to be made with somewhat of a triangular gusset/pleat along the center of the back, sewn together but the stitching could be taken out with scissors or a seam ripper to give an extra inch or two in the waist. Sort of like the way Red Kap pants are, except you have to resew Red Kaps.

Not sure why they stopped doing that, probably to save production costs and to sell more pants.
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That is going back a while, maybe all USA made for those ones and yes I did have a whole lot of those pass through my hands, many of which did get taken out as it made them fit the people in a more true size number to actual size waist, if that makes any sense.

Like everything, I think the older pants were of a better material and make than the newer ones, which are a bit more here and there in quality and fit, but they are what they are - to me just simple work pants and not a fashion brand.

Yeah, all the ones I got in that era were all purchased from actual work wear shops. It was long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away from the current fashion brand it has become.

Sadly, to a certain extent, the same thing has happened to Ben Davis, and Carhartt.

Prices have gone up, and quality has gone sideways.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bryan on May 13, 2022, 10:11:03 AM
don't think this question has a real answer but i'll throw it out there anyway.
as some of you know, older ventures have the V facing so when you ride it readable versus what venture does now which is have a design that's readable in product shots and upside down when riding a board. thunder does this as well, so is it just a dlx thing to go against what independent & co do? ace does their sizing where it's upside down in product shots as well, so i guess we can count that too.

Yeah, no right answer, just difference of opinion. Kind of like words/company names that go across the whole board nose to tail vs tail to nose.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 13, 2022, 10:12:33 AM
Has anyone replaced the Indy standard kingpin with the Krux DLK K5 Kingpin? I want to give it a shot but I don't know what to expect and if they're compatible.
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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 13, 2022, 10:41:54 AM
Has anyone replaced the Indy standard kingpin with the Krux DLK K5 Kingpin? I want to give it a shot but I don't know what to expect and if they're compatible.

I acquired a set of 159 standards that had been modded for a K5 DLK. The K5 DLK is identical to the pins used in the Indy mid & IKP plates, so you should be good to go.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 13, 2022, 10:50:42 AM
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Oh you got me wrong! I have somebody who can film, but he can’t skate and film good enough to roll behind or next to me, so he can just stand somewhere and film.


Unfortunately no photo of the spot. It’s a 40 minutes ride from here
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Do what fs1/2cab said but bring a ladder or something to stand on at the bottom of the stairs.(But make sure they can still catch the roll away). If it's easy for you do it a bunch of times and play around with the zoom. Eg start zoomed in and zoom out as you manual, getting closer to the filmer and try have a nice shot of the stairs at the end
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Thanks, so better no fisheye and just iPhone cam to zoom, yeah?
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well that's what I think. Youre going to be too far away when you start manualling. Fisheye would only really be good if they were skating near you.

Right, thx!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on May 13, 2022, 06:10:31 PM
Do titanium Indy 215’s exist?
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Post by: Plan9Customs on May 13, 2022, 06:24:29 PM
No. Just standard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 14, 2022, 04:42:43 PM
Do bushings get softer when it's hot? I skate Indy's and just moved to a hotter area and it really felt like my shit was looser. 50-65F before and 65-90F new location.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Do bushings get softer when it's hot? I skate Indy's and just moved to a hotter area and it really felt like my shit was looser. 50-65F before and 65-90F new location.


Yes, bushings from most brands definitely change with the temperature. 

The one time I went on a "cold weather" trip when we were kids, our bushings were like rocks and none of us could skate and we didn't know why until someone explained it to us.

The same happens in warmer weather, with bushings feeling softer.


I forget who, but someone once said they always tighten their trucks down a full turn in warmer places, or loosen it off a full turn in colder places and it worked well for them.


Also I think people have said Bones bushings are least likely to be affected by the temperature.

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Post by: tuesday on May 15, 2022, 01:37:43 AM
^this. Suffices to skate a metal surfaced ramp when the sun is shining and the metal is getting hot.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on May 16, 2022, 10:38:08 AM
Do bushings get softer when it's hot? I skate Indy's and just moved to a hotter area and it really felt like my shit was looser. 50-65F before and 65-90F new location.

Welcome to San Diego
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 16, 2022, 10:47:58 AM
Ok good to know I suddenly do not need Ventures.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on May 16, 2022, 11:47:03 AM
I’ve got an extra set of thunder juice that I’d like to pair with a mini board and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for mini cruiser decks? I was going to pick up a mini Chico Stix but it sold out real quick.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on May 16, 2022, 01:48:01 PM
I’ve got an extra set of thunder juice that I’d like to pair with a mini board and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for mini cruiser decks? I was going to pick up a mini Chico Stix but it sold out real quick.

If you or anyone you know have the tools to cut a old board and shape it how you like it, do that. It is fun.
I think I have one laying around at my parents place, if you want to see a photo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on May 16, 2022, 05:21:37 PM
Has anyone replaced the Indy standard kingpin with the Krux DLK K5 Kingpin? I want to give it a shot but I don't know what to expect and if they're compatible.
i can't say myself, but check out @fuckwithyourtrucks on instagram. they have heaps of information on kingpins, be it inverted or otherwise. there's also a ton of skateboarding gear history on there, and more tips/tricks than you could ever need
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on May 17, 2022, 07:00:21 AM
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Has anyone replaced the Indy standard kingpin with the Krux DLK K5 Kingpin? I want to give it a shot but I don't know what to expect and if they're compatible.
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i can't say myself, but check out @fuckwithyourtrucks on instagram. they have heaps of information on kingpins, be it inverted or otherwise. there's also a ton of skateboarding gear history on there, and more tips/tricks than you could ever need

I’ve put the Krux hollow DLK in Indys. Works fine. I JB welded the nuts into the baseplates. Definitely gained some clearance. If I was riding only Indy, I might pop for the plates with the inverted pins.
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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 17, 2022, 07:38:11 AM
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Has anyone replaced the Indy standard kingpin with the Krux DLK K5 Kingpin? I want to give it a shot but I don't know what to expect and if they're compatible.
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i can't say myself, but check out @fuckwithyourtrucks on instagram. they have heaps of information on kingpins, be it inverted or otherwise. there's also a ton of skateboarding gear history on there, and more tips/tricks than you could ever need
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I’ve put the Krux hollow DLK in Indys. Works fine. I JB welded the nuts into the baseplates. Definitely gained some clearance. If I was riding only Indy, I might pop for the plates with the inverted pins.

Already posted it above, but the Krux K5 is the exact same pin that Indy is using in the IKP plates. One nice things about the K5 vs the older hollow IKP is that the K5 has more threads and is a bit more adjustable than the hollow pin.

My set is JB welded. If you're doing it for the first time, I would recommend scoring the inside of the cavity to give the epoxy more to grip to. I would also recommend putting a small disc of tape over the nut (with the pin in it, flush) to keep any epoxy from going into the threads.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 18, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
So are the new bmx vans soles made of softer rubber? Would sometimes get bmx vans years ago and the soles were always harder rubber. Why would a bmxer want super soft soles?
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Post by: BALARGUE on May 18, 2022, 06:55:59 AM
Probably because they need more cushion and less boardfeel

Old Skool, Sk8-Hi and Slip on on Waffle Cup (hybrid sole you find on Crockett's and Kwalk's)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on May 18, 2022, 04:34:23 PM
What has a more mellow concave and kicks quasi or GX 1000 or any other recommendation. Looking for a board with a square nose and tail like hockey but not so steep
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Post by: juniormint on May 18, 2022, 05:27:09 PM
What has a more mellow concave and kicks quasi or GX 1000 or any other recommendation. Looking for a board with a square nose and tail like hockey but not so steep

If you want PS wood those are good options. But I would suggest AWS or Habitat as being closer in shape to Hockey on terms of fullness. Quasi tend to taper a bit more in the tail.
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Post by: rocklobster on May 18, 2022, 06:10:30 PM
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If you want PS wood those are good options. But I would suggest AWS or Habitat as being closer in shape to Hockey on terms of fullness. Quasi tend to taper a bit more in the tail.

Quasi and GX feel pretty mellow across the middle with a good amount of flex for that already broken-in feel.
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Post by: Sativa Lung on May 18, 2022, 08:53:10 PM
What has a more mellow concave and kicks quasi or GX 1000 or any other recommendation. Looking for a board with a square nose and tail like hockey but not so steep

Its literally the exact same board with different graphics. Quasi and GX are essentially sister companies, they use the same shapes and used to be run out of the same place (not sure if they still are in the pandemic era).

In general it depends on the mold but the tail on the square PS boards tends to be mellower, though the noses can often be as steep as the bbs hockey/fa shape.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 19, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
Random one for older skaters. So in the 80s, early 90s did everyone's shoes just stink? I don't even know what makes me think this just from watching footage. maybe it was just a pop culture trope like the stinky gym socks and hightop shoes. Tv always had like cool slacker unhygienic characters then the mid 90s and onwards everything was cool and fresh
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Post by: goodatmeth on May 19, 2022, 02:19:41 PM
Random one for older skaters. So in the 80s, early 90s did everyone's shoes just stink? I don't even know what makes me think this just from watching footage. maybe it was just a pop culture trope like the stinky gym socks and hightop shoes. Tv always had like cool slacker unhygienic characters then the mid 90s and onwards everything was cool and fresh

You just made me smell my shoes after skating and it's not pleasant at all. Can confirm that in 2022 my shoes are still stinky
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MxsDx on May 19, 2022, 02:36:08 PM
Do board brands save a significant amount of cash by not including a stained bottom ply?  I am ok with assorted top ply colors - no red top superstition here - but man, unstained bottom plies bum me out.
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Post by: slappyjoes on May 19, 2022, 03:40:02 PM
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Random one for older skaters. So in the 80s, early 90s did everyone's shoes just stink? I don't even know what makes me think this just from watching footage. maybe it was just a pop culture trope like the stinky gym socks and hightop shoes. Tv always had like cool slacker unhygienic characters then the mid 90s and onwards everything was cool and fresh
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You just made me smell my shoes after skating and it's not pleasant at all. Can confirm that in 2022 my shoes are still stinky

Yea my shoes smell horrible to glad I'm not the only one with this problem
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Post by: Skrotum on May 19, 2022, 03:44:31 PM
What has a more mellow concave and kicks quasi or GX 1000 or any other recommendation. Looking for a board with a square nose and tail like hockey but not so steep

I have no answers  but I am in the same boat I want a more square shape like FA I just don't want it to be crazy steep
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Post by: TurdyBird on May 19, 2022, 04:25:12 PM
Looking into trying out some bigger size wheels soon. Not to get on the new trend but it’s been appealing to me more and more watching dudes skate big wheels(54+).

I’m looking at a cheap set of 56mm. With that accompanies riser pads which I’m not upset about but these “shock pads” stir the inner kid in me.

I’m old, and don’t really have the desire to buy into gimmicks. With that said, are there any pros to shock pads or can I safely just stick with the normal ol flatties?

Can’t find any wood ones did that trend die?

<3 my slap pals
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Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 19, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
Looking into trying out some bigger size wheels soon. Not to get on the new trend but it’s been appealing to me more and more watching dudes skate big wheels(54+).

I’m looking at a cheap set of 56mm. With that accompanies riser pads which I’m not upset about but these “shock pads” stir the inner kid in me.

I’m old, and don’t really have the desire to buy into gimmicks. With that said, are there any pros to shock pads or can I safely just stick with the normal ol flatties?

Can’t find any wood ones did that trend die?

<3 my slap pals

I'm in the minority here but I love shock pads or even softer plastic risers like Lucky. It keeps the board from pressure cracking and mellows the impact of my already low impact skating. Some folks complain that they make the board sound dead, but I don't notice it. They just feel good to me.
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Post by: goodatmeth on May 19, 2022, 05:15:15 PM
Looking into trying out some bigger size wheels soon. Not to get on the new trend but it’s been appealing to me more and more watching dudes skate big wheels(54+).

I’m looking at a cheap set of 56mm. With that accompanies riser pads which I’m not upset about but these “shock pads” stir the inner kid in me.

I’m old, and don’t really have the desire to buy into gimmicks. With that said, are there any pros to shock pads or can I safely just stick with the normal ol flatties?

Can’t find any wood ones did that trend die?

<3 my slap pals

Real sells great wood risers, made of old decks I think
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Post by: Ok on May 19, 2022, 06:08:01 PM
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Looking into trying out some bigger size wheels soon. Not to get on the new trend but it’s been appealing to me more and more watching dudes skate big wheels(54+).

I’m looking at a cheap set of 56mm. With that accompanies riser pads which I’m not upset about but these “shock pads” stir the inner kid in me.

I’m old, and don’t really have the desire to buy into gimmicks. With that said, are there any pros to shock pads or can I safely just stick with the normal ol flatties?

Can’t find any wood ones did that trend die?

<3 my slap pals
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I'm in the minority here but I love shock pads or even softer plastic risers like Lucky. It keeps the board from pressure cracking and mellows the impact of my already low impact skating. Some folks complain that they make the board sound dead, but I don't notice it. They just feel good to me.

I’ve got some lucky risers from the early 2000s, can confirm they are soft, in a pleasant way. Unfortunately mine used to be clear, and are now yellowing because very old.

I just got some of the real wooden risers. Will report back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mantracker on May 19, 2022, 06:22:10 PM
What has a more mellow concave and kicks quasi or GX 1000 or any other recommendation. Looking for a board with a square nose and tail like hockey but not so steep

Quasi Proto 2 shape is quite flat and mellow but same squared noses

Slight taper of .125 from nose to tail is correct
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Post by: manysnakes on May 19, 2022, 07:44:47 PM
Do board brands save a significant amount of cash by not including a stained bottom ply?  I am ok with assorted top ply colors - no red top superstition here - but man, unstained bottom plies bum me out.

There’s literally nothing I hate more on a deck than an unstained bottom ply. I will avoid at all costs.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
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I have no answers  but I am in the same boat I want a more square shape like FA I just don't want it to be crazy steep


Some that are overlooked are the DLX (mainly Real nowdays) Full SE boards, which definitely are not as steep as FA / Hockey but still have squared off kicks and good overall shapes.  Numbers I to IV on top, IV being the most mellow.

https://www.realskateboards.com/

As said AWS / Habitat are another one with squared shapes, about medium concave / kicks, but often have shorter wheelbases with longer kicks, which some people like but some do not.



Do board brands save a significant amount of cash by not including a stained bottom ply?  I am ok with assorted top ply colors - no red top superstition here - but man, unstained bottom plies bum me out.


It is a funny thing as some woodshops or even some deck brands prefer the single top stained ply and one in the middle or second from bottom with natural bottom, which I got used to over the years, but more often than not nowdays I just want stained bottoms too.

I don't think it is a quality thing, especially from brands like Baker / BBS but it is more common with some brands than others.

Pricepoint decks often just had the single top stain and all the rest natural under some brands like DLX, but the pro boards had at least two (top and middle) with some having more through but natural bottoms, so it is maybe more just choice of how some brands want their boards to look, than cost savings.


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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2022, 08:35:40 PM
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Do board brands save a significant amount of cash by not including a stained bottom ply?  I am ok with assorted top ply colors - no red top superstition here - but man, unstained bottom plies bum me out.
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There’s literally nothing I hate more on a deck than an unstained bottom ply. I will avoid at all costs.


I have been taking graphics off quite a few boards recently, so the colour of the stain is a lot more important to me and yes I am not at all keen on natural bottom ply layers.

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Post by: Ol Nick on May 19, 2022, 08:55:55 PM
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Looking into trying out some bigger size wheels soon. Not to get on the new trend but it’s been appealing to me more and more watching dudes skate big wheels(54+).

I’m looking at a cheap set of 56mm. With that accompanies riser pads which I’m not upset about but these “shock pads” stir the inner kid in me.

I’m old, and don’t really have the desire to buy into gimmicks. With that said, are there any pros to shock pads or can I safely just stick with the normal ol flatties?

Can’t find any wood ones did that trend die?

<3 my slap pals
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I'm in the minority here but I love shock pads or even softer plastic risers like Lucky. It keeps the board from pressure cracking and mellows the impact of my already low impact skating. Some folks complain that they make the board sound dead, but I don't notice it. They just feel good to me.
I like lucky for soft risers but have been riding some 1/8” krooked soft risers with 60mm NFG and wheel wells. If you’re “particular” about stuff on your board though, you may want to avoid the krooked ones as their asymmetrical inner supports make them end up slightly crooked in a literal sense. Like not quite rectangular although they still fit fine under baseplates.

I prefer hard plastic (haven’t tried wood yet) risers though. They seem to have less issues with truck bolts loosening and I like the more direct feel from the trucks.

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Post by: Ok on May 19, 2022, 09:09:36 PM
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There’s literally nothing I hate more on a deck than an unstained bottom ply. I will avoid at all costs.

I’m sure some company that I like could do it and I’d want it…but in general the unstained bottom ply looks more fragile. I’m sure I broke a few cheap boards back in the old days, and came to this ‘theory’, but yeah. Flimsy looking
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Post by: braksabbath on May 19, 2022, 09:39:00 PM
I’d take natural over brown stain any day. Current board and the one on ice are Mop Bucket Water Brown and it’s truly disgusting
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Post by: TheLowerBack on May 19, 2022, 11:35:50 PM
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There’s literally nothing I hate more on a deck than an unstained bottom ply. I will avoid at all costs.
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I’m sure some company that I like could do it and I’d want it…but in general the unstained bottom ply looks more fragile. I’m sure I broke a few cheap boards back in the old days, and came to this ‘theory’, but yeah. Flimsy looking
Fifty cents to a buck fifty a deck (depending on manufacturer). Sometimes more of a markup for color specific plys. So depending on your order size and budget it could.
And yeah, 9/10 natural looks like doodoo.
Imagine a natural deck with Bones wheels.
Bar-fo-rama .
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Post by: nitro89 on May 20, 2022, 01:51:03 AM
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There’s literally nothing I hate more on a deck than an unstained bottom ply. I will avoid at all costs.
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I’m sure some company that I like could do it and I’d want it…but in general the unstained bottom ply looks more fragile. I’m sure I broke a few cheap boards back in the old days, and came to this ‘theory’, but yeah. Flimsy looking
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Fifty cents to a buck fifty a deck (depending on manufacturer). Sometimes more of a markup for color specific plys. So depending on your order size and budget it could.
And yeah, 9/10 natural looks like doodoo.
Imagine a natural deck with Bones wheels.
Bar-fo-rama .

last one i had (good few years ago) made me feel like i was skating a tech deck with the top and bottom plys unstained.  :-\ iirc that board skated fine just wasn't pleasing to the eye when looking down etc.

 i like minimal graphics/logo's but there's got to be some colour in there.

im a fan of blue, green and yellow bottoms with a pink top if i can find one. but no yellow tops (back to tech deck status there.ha)

someone throw a vote up on ply colours, could be entertaining.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 20, 2022, 04:12:43 AM
Any opinions on skating the love seat shape on small transition?
I recently made a lot of progress on transition by skating a 9x32.75x14.75 deck, but all blunt tricks got way worse because it's just uncomfortably long. I feel like noseblunts and all that would feel amazing on a short deck.

It might be a problem though because the only big trucks I have are ace. So that's gonna be the shortest effective wheelbase possible.
Thankful for all opinions on this.

Edit: Alternative recommendations are great too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 21, 2022, 06:19:35 AM
Any opinions on skating the love seat shape on small transition?
I recently made a lot of progress on transition by skating a 9x32.75x14.75 deck, but all blunt tricks got way worse because it's just uncomfortably long. I feel like noseblunts and all that would feel amazing on a short deck.

It might be a problem though because the only big trucks I have are ace. So that's gonna be the shortest effective wheelbase possible.
Thankful for all opinions on this.

Edit: Alternative recommendations are great too

@Frank and Fred has both the longer Cardiel Huffer and the shorter Love Seat setup on Ace trucks, so he would be the man to tell you.

Check his previous posts as they are in one thread or other...


This one (Couch shape is the same 13.85 or so wheelbase as Love Seat isn't it?!?):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111108.msg3790975#msg3790975


Yes same:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111108.msg3654432#msg3654432


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on May 21, 2022, 06:41:53 AM
When was the last time any of you rode a prebuilt complete. For a while I’ve been thinking of grabbing one and putting it through it’s passes, just to have a better idea of what they’re like.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 21, 2022, 07:41:58 AM
When was the last time any of you rode a prebuilt complete. For a while I’ve been thinking of grabbing one and putting it through it’s passes, just to have a better idea of what they’re like.


We had a few completes from various brands we had a skate on not too long ago, all were fairly reasonable for mid quality and price completes.  They all held up well enough and worked as they should, but nothing amazing and I was glad I got back on my normal board after that.

I think the most recent full complete was pre covid with a DLX "pro setup" complete which is not too far off what could be a normal pro setup anyway, 8.5 DLX pricepoint deck, 149 Thunder team trucks, generic bolts, grip, bearings, Spitfire 54mm Cheapshots wheels, so really a decent pro board in my size, that skated great.

There are quite a few pro / other brands that are putting out reasonable completes, but I don't think anything in the complete market now actually comes with pro brand parts, almost all being a more generic version of everything completely made in and assembled in China, including deck, trucks, wheels that might be of the certain brand name but are definitely not the same as the standard parts if you bought the deck separately.  They still hold up fine for beginners and kids, but they didn't really last too well for anyone further along than that.


Some distributors are maybe building completes or having them pre-built and sent over with Ace trucks on them and fairly generic everything else, which are decent enough here in AU, but I don't think those same brand boards are anywhere else in the world.  Given the trucks last the longest of any skateboard part, that is actually a good thing, as they have board sizes from 8 through 8.25 up to 8.5 and Ace classic 33s and 44s on them.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on May 21, 2022, 09:25:19 AM
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Any opinions on skating the love seat shape on small transition?
I recently made a lot of progress on transition by skating a 9x32.75x14.75 deck, but all blunt tricks got way worse because it's just uncomfortably long. I feel like noseblunts and all that would feel amazing on a short deck.

It might be a problem though because the only big trucks I have are ace. So that's gonna be the shortest effective wheelbase possible.
Thankful for all opinions on this.

Edit: Alternative recommendations are great too
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@Frank and Fred has both the longer Cardiel Huffer and the shorter Love Seat setup on Ace trucks, so he would be the man to tell you.

Check his previous posts as they are in one thread or other...


This one (Couch shape is the same 13.85 or so wheelbase as Love Seat isn't it?!?):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111108.msg3790975#msg3790975


Yes same:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111108.msg3654432#msg3654432

I have a Couch set up right now with Classic Ace 55s and a Loveseat in the pile (only very slight width difference but all other dimensions are the same). I used to ride Couches with Thunder 151 only but I am trying to commit to one brand of truck. I though the Ace would be too squirrely on a sub 14" WB but I mostly use this board for quick flat ground and curb sessions. However, I took it to a park last week and it was fine. Not something I'd skate a bigger bowl with for sure but its really fun to have a tiny WB with Ace's. My friend has a super tight and small backyard bowl that is begging for this set up. Try it. I'd recommend AF1 60s personally... but I have a few older sets of Ace I need to get to axle before I fully commit to the 60s myself...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 21, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
Need a recommendation for a AWS 8.25 replacment. Same dimensions and shape (full nose) but I know that's pretty hard to find considering the AWS / Habitat shape is unique.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 22, 2022, 08:58:07 AM
Need a recommendation for a AWS 8.25 replacment. Same dimensions and shape (full nose) but I know that's pretty hard to find considering the AWS / Habitat shape is unique.
If Real puts out a full in 8.25, check that out. The AWS 8.25 is prob my favorite all around deck and I’ve had qite a few. I thought Quasi’s 8.25 proto would be a great substitute but it’s much shorter that they claim, which didn’t work for me. Both I tried were PS though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 22, 2022, 10:29:36 AM
Wheelbase re-drilling enthusiasts: further from the original holes is generally considered better and is more likely to keep a board from breaking, right?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 22, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
Eyeing those Vans surf chukka: if I put in some Popcush insoles will they skate much different than a skate Vans? I know the rubber is slightly different.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LB on May 22, 2022, 12:49:41 PM
whats that tom penny vid where he does a line for a minute or two in empty streets, looks like its early morning when the suns come up?  thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 22, 2022, 12:55:10 PM
whats that tom penny vid where he does a line for a minute or two in empty streets, looks like its early morning when the suns come up?  thanks

https://youtu.be/ub2x_6cMLJs

ATM Click guest part.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 22, 2022, 01:08:46 PM
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whats that tom penny vid where he does a line for a minute or two in empty streets, looks like its early morning when the suns come up?  thanks
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https://youtu.be/ub2x_6cMLJs

ATM Click guest part.

Never seen that part before. Thanks for posting.
That was awesome with the Lou Reed song.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LB on May 22, 2022, 01:32:52 PM
@Easy Slider thank you  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2022, 08:00:15 PM
Wheelbase re-drilling enthusiasts: further from the original holes is generally considered better and is more likely to keep a board from breaking, right?


I have done it but 1/4" is a bit too close, whereas 3/8" (same as the six hole baseplate) seems to be the best, then whatever from there up.  It is also easy to use a six hole baseplate as a template, if you have any.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disappointed on May 23, 2022, 03:16:36 AM
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Wheelbase re-drilling enthusiasts: further from the original holes is generally considered better and is more likely to keep a board from breaking, right?
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I have done it but 1/4" is a bit too close, whereas 3/8" (same as the six hole baseplate) seems to be the best, then whatever from there up.  It is also easy to use a six hole baseplate as a template, if you have any.

+1 this. It really is the best way, a totally dummy proof (i can attest :))
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 23, 2022, 06:17:04 AM
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Wheelbase re-drilling enthusiasts: further from the original holes is generally considered better and is more likely to keep a board from breaking, right?
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I have done it but 1/4" is a bit too close, whereas 3/8" (same as the six hole baseplate) seems to be the best, then whatever from there up.  It is also easy to use a six hole baseplate as a template, if you have any.
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+1 this. It really is the best way, a totally dummy proof (i can attest :))

Thanks, guys. I have a chems tool and I've done it a couple times before (once 1/2" in, once 1/2" out). I've read that anything less than 3/8" is a bad idea, but I just wanted to be sure that going in the opposite direction and re-drilling my WB by a whole 1" wouldn't have some unforeseen consequences.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 23, 2022, 12:13:57 PM
Looking for recommendations on 8.38-8.5 decks with 14.25 wheelbase. Big fan of Quasi decks usually, any other decks that have similar dims/feel?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on May 23, 2022, 12:29:29 PM
The DLX team 8.5x31 has 14.25 wb but will be more tapered in the kicks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quique on May 23, 2022, 07:28:11 PM
Have you ever had a baseplate so bent, it would break boards if not landing bolts?

I have a set of 44s, skated them since 1/1/2021, had a couple of decks that lasted me a long time, since the 3rd board I broke them all (6 or 7) by kickflips landed in the tail. Big boards, small boards, flat or steep, some lasted me a couple of weeks, some 2 sessions. I know I'm kinda heavy footed but since switching to my old 8.3 twin tail with 147s I had no issues in almost two months.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 23, 2022, 08:11:01 PM
Looking for recommendations on 8.38-8.5 decks with 14.25 wheelbase. Big fan of Quasi decks usually, any other decks that have similar dims/feel?

Hockey/FA. They have 8.5 with a 14.25WB. They also have a squared off nose like Quasi but the concave is much steeper.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 23, 2022, 09:34:06 PM
Could truck companies make a kingpin where the nut is the same size as an axle nut? Ace a while back did the axle nuts the same size as hardware but and I'm guessing that didn't work because they didn't keep it around. I think those were wierd oval nuts or something tho. I'm thinking maybe even reduce the diameter of the kingpin where it's threaded. Idea being the smaller nut drags less on Smith's etc and doesn't require any inverted KP business. Bonus being also one less tool, all nuts same size easier to swap and find spare ones
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 23, 2022, 10:43:54 PM
Could truck companies make a kingpin where the nut is the same size as an axle nut? Ace a while back did the axle nuts the same size as hardware but and I'm guessing that didn't work because they didn't keep it around. I think those were wierd oval nuts or something tho. I'm thinking maybe even reduce the diameter of the kingpin where it's threaded. Idea being the smaller nut drags less on Smith's etc and doesn't require any inverted KP business. Bonus being also one less tool, all nuts same size easier to swap and find spare ones

Lurpiv
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 23, 2022, 10:56:47 PM
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Wheelbase re-drilling enthusiasts: further from the original holes is generally considered better and is more likely to keep a board from breaking, right?
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I have done it but 1/4" is a bit too close, whereas 3/8" (same as the six hole baseplate) seems to be the best, then whatever from there up.  It is also easy to use a six hole baseplate as a template, if you have any.
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+1 this. It really is the best way, a totally dummy proof (i can attest :))
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Thanks, guys. I have a chems tool and I've done it a couple times before (once 1/2" in, once 1/2" out). I've read that anything less than 3/8" is a bad idea, but I just wanted to be sure that going in the opposite direction and re-drilling my WB by a whole 1" wouldn't have some unforeseen consequences.


I think more than anything it was the possibility of the bolt holes being too close to the existing ones that it could break through the wood, but going further away from existing holes is not a worry at all.

For some of the boards we have cut down and remade in to "junior riders" the wheelbase was shortened a lot, maybe 2" or so on some, with the nose almost no kick, but it worked great for the small kids and recycled our older normal sized boards.

The only thing I have noticed is drilling out further, if you drill too far into the kick area, it will not only put off the feel of the board but also make the truck sit up on an angle or not touch the board from end to end.  A little of this is not a big deal, but more than a bit and the board might have issues, as per some I had done, but I used a soft riser to get around the curve of the kick and it was on a cruiser so it worked well enough for that.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 23, 2022, 11:02:08 PM
Have you ever had a baseplate so bent, it would break boards if not landing bolts?

I have a set of 44s, skated them since 1/1/2021, had a couple of decks that lasted me a long time, since the 3rd board I broke them all (6 or 7) by kickflips landed in the tail. Big boards, small boards, flat or steep, some lasted me a couple of weeks, some 2 sessions. I know I'm kinda heavy footed but since switching to my old 8.3 twin tail with 147s I had no issues in almost two months.


If you mean the truck is cutting into the deck and causing breakage around or over the bolt area, that is fairly common, with either something put in between (soft riser / cardboard, etc) or rounding off the sharp edge of the truck - even just scrape it on concrete ground to remove the sharp edge, no tools needed and it stops that extra bite from the metal truck into the wood of the board.

I would often do this even to new trucks and from looking at the decks afterwards, there is way less of the usual truck bite mark into the wood.  I also put a cut up sticker or something on the board under where the truck goes, sort of like a riser but without the height or seeing it, but this also prevents significant truck bite into the board as well.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B5X3o9qFYuI/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 23, 2022, 11:07:06 PM
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Could truck companies make a kingpin where the nut is the same size as an axle nut? Ace a while back did the axle nuts the same size as hardware but and I'm guessing that didn't work because they didn't keep it around. I think those were wierd oval nuts or something tho. I'm thinking maybe even reduce the diameter of the kingpin where it's threaded. Idea being the smaller nut drags less on Smith's etc and doesn't require any inverted KP business. Bonus being also one less tool, all nuts same size easier to swap and find spare ones
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Lurpiv
Looking at all the problems lurpiv has had is actually what got me thinking about alternatives lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on May 24, 2022, 05:02:35 AM
Anybody else have their inboard speed ring work its way into the face of the hanger or otherwise develop burrs?  Mine get all effed up and start making the bearings feel misaligned - way before even the midpoint of the trucks or wheels lifespan.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattchew on May 24, 2022, 07:40:18 AM
Been skating the Girl - Loveseat shape for a year now on titanium Indy 159’s but I am curious about experimenting with other trucks for fun.

Not knowing dick about trucks, what other brands make a titanium/hollow/generally light truck for 8.75”-9” boards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on May 24, 2022, 09:28:08 AM
Been skating the Girl - Loveseat shape for a year now on titanium Indy 159’s but I am curious about experimenting with other trucks for fun.

Not knowing dick about trucks, what other brands make a titanium/hollow/generally light truck for 8.75”-9” boards?

current dlx drop has venture 6.1s in vhollow (hollow kp, hollow axle, forged plates), thats an 8.75 truck.  never skated it so can’t personally back it but i am still surprised how light my 5.6 vhollows are so theres that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on May 24, 2022, 10:43:47 AM
What's the company that makes the board the evil beamer was based on?
I know it's just some dude. I want one but I don't want to pay eBay resale prices for one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on May 24, 2022, 10:52:27 AM
i've never skated a pair of adidas before... is there a model thats regarded as 'the best'?

obviously i know personal preferences play a major part but just generally speaking.  busenitz, sambas & gazelles have been interesting me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 24, 2022, 11:01:43 AM
Been skating the Girl - Loveseat shape for a year now on titanium Indy 159’s but I am curious about experimenting with other trucks for fun.

Not knowing dick about trucks, what other brands make a titanium/hollow/generally light truck for 8.75”-9” boards?

There isn't much choice without riding some weird stuff, like @oak leaf said, Venture. Thunder 151's (8.75), Lurpiv 159's (8.75), MiniLogo Raw polished 8.75's are 360g. Theeve's Ti 6.5 offerings (9") weigh ~350ish. Polar Bear at 180mm (9") weigh ~390.

There's others, you can look for yourself:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13rCMIthFb59Y-xrveasWk4GqR9jgd85fXDCIFm3g15I/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on May 24, 2022, 11:09:34 AM
i've never skated a pair of adidas before... is there a model thats regarded as 'the best'?

obviously i know personal preferences play a major part but just generally speaking.  busenitz, sambas & gazelles have been interesting me

Busenitz or any of the classic adv are a safe bet. I personally like superstars because of the flick from the shell toe.

I've skated a bunch of their vulcs and dont know how to feel about them. The outsole always feels "hard" which makes it last forever but at the same time, I dont feel grip when I flick. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on May 24, 2022, 12:06:55 PM
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i've never skated a pair of adidas before... is there a model thats regarded as 'the best'?

obviously i know personal preferences play a major part but just generally speaking.  busenitz, sambas & gazelles have been interesting me
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Busenitz or any of the classic adv are a safe bet. I personally like superstars because of the flick from the shell toe.

I've skated a bunch of their vulcs and dont know how to feel about them. The outsole always feels "hard" which makes it last forever but at the same time, I dont feel grip when I flick.
I assume you mean the skate gazelles with the vulc sole but just in case I really do NOT recommend normal gazelles. The sole pattern is way too shallow beyond just not grippy they are actually slippery on certain surfaces (like a skatepark for instance). Also since it's so shallow the sole will go completely smooth very quickly. There's a newer busenitz I think called busenitz vintage that pretty much looks exactly halfway between the og busenitz and the samba
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on May 24, 2022, 02:01:55 PM
yea definitely referencing the skate models/adv's.  appreciate the tips gentlemen
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on May 24, 2022, 02:04:18 PM
You’re either gonna love the samba or Busnitez’s depending on your foot.

I prefer the Busnitez but I have a high arch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on May 24, 2022, 02:05:01 PM
Oh and get the non skate Sambas if you’re going that way
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: greenreese on May 24, 2022, 02:17:06 PM
i've never skated a pair of adidas before... is there a model thats regarded as 'the best'?

obviously i know personal preferences play a major part but just generally speaking.  busenitz, sambas & gazelles have been interesting me

I've got pairs of Busenitz, Superstars, Tyshawn's, 3ST004s, Copa National and Forum Mid.  They all sit in the closet except for the Busenitz.  I'm on pair 6 or 7 now and they always feel great.  The Black/Gum is my go to, but I wish they would bring back the white ones.  No break in period, they just go.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 24, 2022, 02:20:44 PM
You’re either gonna love the samba or Busnitez’s depending on your foot.

I prefer the Busnitez but I have a high arch

The arch support in the Busnitez is crazy. I can’t make them work for me, they’re like a torture device.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 24, 2022, 02:29:02 PM
I am a Busenitz man as well. They‘re the only shoe I don‘t rip the laces on. Also no break in time as mentioned above. Get the suede ones, the leather ones are too stiff.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 24, 2022, 04:33:01 PM
Which woodshop does a single divot between the front truck holes? Im skating a deck now from them and freakin dig it.
Cant find it using the search but remember it being mentioned.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on May 24, 2022, 05:39:11 PM
i've never skated a pair of adidas before... is there a model thats regarded as 'the best'?

obviously i know personal preferences play a major part but just generally speaking.  busenitz, sambas & gazelles have been interesting me

I had a surprisingly good experience with the Superstar ADVs.  I was on an Adidas kick and went straight from the Busenitz to those and ended up liking them way better and skating them for a little over two months straight.  The shape is a little more traditional (less pointy) and I thought the grip for ollies and flick for fliptricks was better.  Also had a quick break-in period like the Busenitz. 

If you’re looking for a durable shoe with more padding and less boardfeel, the Tyshawn’s are extremely well made and comfortable to skate. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: brent on May 24, 2022, 06:00:39 PM
is da playground still around?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 24, 2022, 06:05:00 PM
Which woodshop does a single divot between the front truck holes? Im skating a deck now from them and freakin dig it.
Cant find it using the search but remember it being mentioned.

BBS / Generator
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on May 24, 2022, 06:38:56 PM
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Which woodshop does a single divot between the front truck holes? Im skating a deck now from them and freakin dig it.
Cant find it using the search but remember it being mentioned.
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BBS / Generator


Most likely, unless it is the nail mark, more so than a wider dot.

I have tried to compile pics of tops of boards here, which do show the wider dot on a few:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729106#msg3729106

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on May 24, 2022, 06:43:45 PM
What's the company that makes the board the evil beamer was based on?
I know it's just some dude. I want one but I don't want to pay eBay resale prices for one


I think it was this one, but couldn't be sure.

Some of his older posts sure do look similar in the construction.

Thankfully I had them all listed on the Woodshop thread, so it was just a matter of going over the smaller USA made woodshops.


https://www.instagram.com/factory13skateboards/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2022, 06:53:49 PM
Anybody else have their inboard speed ring work its way into the face of the hanger or otherwise develop burrs?  Mine get all effed up and start making the bearings feel misaligned - way before even the midpoint of the trucks or wheels lifespan.


Seems rather unique, but that in itself doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone else.

Checking you mean the washer on the axles between hanger and bearing?

What trucks are you riding and do you have any play in the wheel or none at all?


I could understand if the axle nut was done up super tight and the hanger was a softer metal causing it to push inwards, but to me there would need to be significantly more force than just a human tightening the axle nut.

Maybe try running two washers on the inside?

I usually have three washers on the inside and none on the outside of every wheel with a little play, sometimes even four on the inside of Ace trucks as their axles are longer, which brings the wheel out more and sits better over the axle nut, but that is just me.

Curious to hear more.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: greenreese on May 24, 2022, 07:47:43 PM
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Anybody else have their inboard speed ring work its way into the face of the hanger or otherwise develop burrs?  Mine get all effed up and start making the bearings feel misaligned - way before even the midpoint of the trucks or wheels lifespan.
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Seems rather unique, but that in itself doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone else.

Checking you mean the washer on the axles between hanger and bearing?

What trucks are you riding and do you have any play in the wheel or none at all?


I could understand if the axle nut was done up super tight and the hanger was a softer metal causing it to push inwards, but to me there would need to be significantly more force than just a human tightening the axle nut.

Maybe try running two washers on the inside?

I usually have three washers on the inside and none on the outside of every wheel with a little play, sometimes even four on the inside of Ace trucks as their axles are longer, which brings the wheel out more and sits better over the axle nut, but that is just me.

Curious to hear more.

The washers/speed rings have a sharp side and a smooth side.  Rub your finger over the edge to figure out which side is which.  Put the smooth side against the hanger.  The sharp side won't do shit to the hard bearing race, but it can slowly wear against the hanger.  At least this is my experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on May 24, 2022, 08:27:02 PM
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What's the company that makes the board the evil beamer was based on?
I know it's just some dude. I want one but I don't want to pay eBay resale prices for one
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I think it was this one, but couldn't be sure.

Some of his older posts sure do look similar in the construction.

Thankfully I had them all listed on the Woodshop thread, so it was just a matter of going over the smaller USA made woodshops.


https://www.instagram.com/factory13skateboards/
TY. I think that's them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 25, 2022, 05:57:27 PM
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Which woodshop does a single divot between the front truck holes? Im skating a deck now from them and freakin dig it.
Cant find it using the search but remember it being mentioned.
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BBS / Generator
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Its like the size of a penny nail. Its a DGK deck I got in Dec 2020 as a gift.


Most likely, unless it is the nail mark, more so than a wider dot.

I have tried to compile pics of tops of boards here, which do show the wider dot on a few:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729106#msg3729106
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Candied cigarettes on May 25, 2022, 08:12:24 PM
Anyone know if LRG is coming back? I’ve seen a few people (Chico, Kelly Hart, Karl I think) wearing some LRG gear recently. I’m slightly intrigued, there’s some potential for some good pants.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 25, 2022, 08:32:54 PM
What do people mean when a truck is high and thus "tippy"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 25, 2022, 09:14:06 PM
Anyone know if LRG is coming back? I’ve seen a few people (Chico, Kelly Hart, Karl I think) wearing some LRG gear recently. I’m slightly intrigued, there’s some potential for some good pants.

i want to believe, but i'm more inclined to say it's deadstock/ebay/etc. after reading something about a dude who hooks people up with older skate gear from the people they are sponsored by, i wouldn't put it past those three to have access to that type of thing.
still...hoping for a revival
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lashes2ashes on May 25, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Anyone know if LRG is coming back? I’ve seen a few people (Chico, Kelly Hart, Karl I think) wearing some LRG gear recently. I’m slightly intrigued, there’s some potential for some good pants.
when did they go out? There website is still up and they had a clothing drop this year it says? I see nothing skate related so probably got sold and turned into a street wear brand.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 10:50:06 PM
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Which woodshop does a single divot between the front truck holes? Im skating a deck now from them and freakin dig it.
Cant find it using the search but remember it being mentioned.
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BBS / Generator
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Its like the size of a penny nail. Its a DGK deck I got in Dec 2020 as a gift.



I would say 99.99% BBS wood, as they were all still BBS back before things went a bit funny and they started to look for different options like some of the now unknown wood from 2021 / 2022 with "Made in China" for DGK and a number of other brands that were all just BBS before.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on May 26, 2022, 07:57:15 AM
What do people mean when a truck is high and thus "tippy"

What do you mean?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 26, 2022, 08:56:48 AM
People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on May 26, 2022, 09:10:43 AM
People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

think of like a jeep, when you corner hard it feels like its gonna flip on its side?

i dont skate indys but when i was trying risers i had this feeling, like when you turn hard the whole board might just go to rail.


edit: by comparison thunders and ventures make me feel like the concave is “in” the truck not “on” it… i know thats not really how it is - im just talkin feel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Candied cigarettes on May 26, 2022, 10:17:24 AM
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Anyone know if LRG is coming back? I’ve seen a few people (Chico, Kelly Hart, Karl I think) wearing some LRG gear recently. I’m slightly intrigued, there’s some potential for some good pants.
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i want to believe, but i'm more inclined to say it's deadstock/ebay/etc. after reading something about a dude who hooks people up with older skate gear from the people they are sponsored by, i wouldn't put it past those three to have access to that type of thing.
still...hoping for a revival

Hmm, both Kelly and Karl tagged LRG in their bio. Chico also tagged LRG in a recent post. So they could be revamping the skate program, it seems possible.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 26, 2022, 10:23:17 AM
Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on May 26, 2022, 10:34:28 AM
We've been stuck in the early 2000s revival for awhile, now were slowing moving into the 2010s revival.

Lets bring Quicksilver and Volcom Stone back. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 26, 2022, 10:41:25 AM
then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

dark times for a lot of brands
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 26, 2022, 11:13:26 AM
People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

I think they mean that the truck has an increased ability to lean to one side or another due to the leverage of a taller truck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Candied cigarettes on May 26, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.

I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 26, 2022, 06:07:52 PM
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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.

Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 26, 2022, 07:06:22 PM
People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.

I feel like a lot of people ride wider boards with narrow trucks, so this combination on almost any truck is going to feel more tippy, but more so on taller trucks than lower trucks.

The Venture low 8" trucks on an 8.25" deck I have set up for a laugh at the indoor park just cannot go over, but two other setups on similar 8.25" or so width deck and 8" truck definitely feel like they will tip over way more easily.  All trucks are more solid medium on those boards too, compared to my usual riders of 8.5" with 149s and medium loose trucks.

Maybe most of those trucks on boards that tip over are not quite as wide as some other boards that are way more stable for any brand of truck, but I know with my size 11 / 12 feet, anything under 8.125 really felt way more likely to go over regardless of what trucks were on it, but the bigger boards with proportionate trucks are a lot more stable.

That tighter narrow truck on a wider board combination seems like it would always tip over way more easily, but that is just me.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 27, 2022, 12:51:12 AM
Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 27, 2022, 01:32:17 AM
Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.

the shovel nose on the P2 is kinda extreme

you'll find similar to Quasi stuff in WKND and GX1000 catalogs

the shovel scale is kinda like this
(only considering the square shapes here. keep in mind WKND has some standard shapes too)

Real FULL < Quasi=GX1000=WKND < Habitat < Hockey=FA < Polar P2

other brands pressed at PS Stix have some squarish shapes too (Snack, Pizza)

if you want more specific infos (WB, nose and tail steepness, concave) check the woodshop thread
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on May 27, 2022, 04:50:48 AM
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Anyone got an opinion on Polar P2 shape vs. Real Full (SE) shape?

Are there any other shapes out there similar to those that I should look into?

Currently skating a Quasi, and I like the wider tail/nose, and want to keep trying boards like that. Not sure what other brands do those types of shapes though.
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the shovel nose on the P2 is kinda extreme

you'll find similar to Quasi stuff in WKND and GX1000 catalogs

the shovel scale is kinda like this
(only considering the square shapes here. keep in mind WKND has some standard shapes too)

Real FULL < Quasi=GX1000=WKND < Habitat < Hockey=FA < Polar P2

other brands pressed at PS Stix have some squarish shapes too (Snack, Pizza)

if you want more specific infos (WB, nose and tail steepness, concave) check the woodshop thread


Not sure if wheelbase and overall length are of importance too, but they definitely make a difference in riding them.


I have a Baker B2 board which is interesting as well (squared nose and tail shape) and about the same wheelbase as the Real Full SE.  It is not as long as the Alien Workshop / Habitat decks, which have short wheelbases and very long kicks, but a little longer than the Real Full SE board when comparing them.

All are still a touch longer than FA / Hockey - shorter wheelbase and length, which are a touch longer than the PS Stix boards as well - GX1000, Quasi, WKND, etc.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on May 27, 2022, 05:05:01 AM
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Anybody else have their inboard speed ring work its way into the face of the hanger or otherwise develop burrs?  Mine get all effed up and start making the bearings feel misaligned - way before even the midpoint of the trucks or wheels lifespan.
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Seems rather unique, but that in itself doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone else.

Checking you mean the washer on the axles between hanger and bearing?

What trucks are you riding and do you have any play in the wheel or none at all?


I could understand if the axle nut was done up super tight and the hanger was a softer metal causing it to push inwards, but to me there would need to be significantly more force than just a human tightening the axle nut.

Maybe try running two washers on the inside?

I usually have three washers on the inside and none on the outside of every wheel with a little play, sometimes even four on the inside of Ace trucks as their axles are longer, which brings the wheel out more and sits better over the axle nut, but that is just me.

Curious to hear more.

yeah, the little washer.  it's happened on the last 3 sets of trucks I've put any time on: venture, indy, tracker. I run spacers and have less play than most.  I think the play may be the culprit, as I used to strive for zero, but felt some less-than-perfect wheels worked better with a little slop.  Thought about it some, and it kind of makes sense - If you feel a fresh speed ring, there's a rounded side and a sharp square side.  I always put the rounded side against the bearing.  With a little play and a lot of repetition, the aluminum, and to a less extent the washer itself, are going to give, as both are softer than the bearing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 27, 2022, 06:45:24 AM
is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on May 27, 2022, 07:36:01 AM
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Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.
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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.
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Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.

Not a single skater I know from that era including myself are interested in eS, LRG, or a lot of brands that rightfully died. Seeing what happened to Zoo was painful enough I don't need to be reminded of a tragedy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 27, 2022, 08:00:38 AM
is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?

Helps a lot with grabbing your board as you can wrap your fingers around the rails for a very secure grab. If your deck has a certain graphic you like, it can help protect most of the graphic depending on how you set them up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 27, 2022, 08:46:48 AM
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Why is Kelly Hart so closely associated with bringing back things that should rightfully be laid to rest? LRG was interesting in like 2001-2003 or so, but then it just became a mall brand that tweaks wore.
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I think it’s as simple as Kelly just isn’t that creative but he’s been put in a position where he has to come up with ideas.
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Nostalgia sells, skaters from the 2000s are probably in their late 20 to mid 30s with more disposable income and will pay to relive the brands from their past. Explains why eS Accel continues to sell well.
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Not a single skater I know from that era including myself are interested in eS, LRG, or a lot of brands that rightfully died. Seeing what happened to Zoo was painful enough I don't need to be reminded of a tragedy.

lol yeah it's more 'nostalgia sells' and younger gens have the interest. i did say i want a revival of LRG but it's more to see what the output would be not to rock it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 28, 2022, 05:45:13 AM
You think those Reebok classics are skateable?

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4466984_-classic-leather-women-intense-black-reebok.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 28, 2022, 06:17:20 AM
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is there any point in rocking rails if you dont skate double siders?
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Helps a lot with grabbing your board as you can wrap your fingers around the rails for a very secure grab. If your deck has a certain graphic you like, it can help protect most of the graphic depending on how you set them up.


It also lowers the center contact considerably, so it is a lot easier to get into a slide, be it boardslide or lipslide on a curb, ledge or any edge with less wheel contact than a board without rails.

I know a couple of guys who skate rails on everything and their boards feel a bit dangerous to me on those things, mainly because I am used to having a bit more grip with no rails, but they sure can slide a whole lot more on everything with them, including normal curbs with platform / no double side options.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 28, 2022, 08:07:33 AM
On transition, especially pool coping.  What if all your friends are riding rails……how do you feel?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 28, 2022, 03:59:53 PM
Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on May 28, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?
Why not just get some skate shoes?
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 28, 2022, 06:57:14 PM
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Reebok classic leathers?

ASIC gel lite 3 in suede?


Opinions? You think it’s easier to roll his ankle with those?
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Why not just get some skate shoes?

Already have those
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on May 28, 2022, 07:24:36 PM
for the love of ankles, dont skate gel lyte 3s
ive rolled my shits walking in them carelessly
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 29, 2022, 07:41:50 AM
You think those Reebok classics are skateable?

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4466984_-classic-leather-women-intense-black-reebok.html

There is no way I am clicking through the captcha to find out which sneakers these are, but I have a homie who sometimes skates in the classic flat solved Reeboks and says they're great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on May 29, 2022, 07:44:17 AM
We've been stuck in the early 2000s revival for awhile, now were slowing moving into the 2010s revival.

Lets bring Quicksilver and Volcom Stone back.

and Ocean Pacific, Billabong, Maui & Sons..Jimmy'Z..Gotcha Streetwear
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 29, 2022, 09:53:16 AM
I had to buy a skate pack recently and Volcom was the best option….

Saw this today…

https://www.instagram.com/p/CeI53HYuZ66/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on May 29, 2022, 05:18:43 PM
People often say they don't like the height of Indy's or now Lurpivs. They describe it as making the truck feel "tippy". I don't understand this.
I guess more height means more potential turning for the truck, and on super tight trucks the board would be likely to just 'tip' at a steeper angle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 29, 2022, 06:21:43 PM
On transition, especially pool coping.  What if all your friends are riding rails……how do you feel?


Curious if this is just thinking out loud or an actual question, but I know standing on a platform with a group of others of similar age (40+ club), they are all padded up, setups almost always with rails and there is me feeling happy in my usual space, no pads, no rails, no worries.

Personal choice really, but rails just make my life harder nowdays.


* It could be almost 50 / 50 split between those I have never seen rail slide and those who just want to keep their old school graphics intact, but either way, at least they are still rolling.  That is all that matters.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on May 31, 2022, 12:15:52 AM
Got a question about Mob grip.

Yesterday at the shop I was picking up a deck for an alternative setup and thought I might try Mob for the first time in ages, since it won't be on my main board. The shop guy brought out the roll of normal Mob and told me that recently, Mob's been really thick, and that the grit is weird. He then brought out the 10" roll of Mob and demonstrated how it was thinner, and that the grit seemed finer, yet higher quality.

What I remember not liking about Mob 15 years ago was how thick it was, and that it was grippier than necessary, so I kinda expected it to be this way, but the 10" inch roll got me confused. The shop guy acted as if the standard Mob had gotten shittier recently.

Any Mob-heads got a clue what he's on about?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 31, 2022, 02:44:10 AM
As a shop guy i can confirm classic MOB slightly changed to be thicker
I've heard they temporarily had to switch factories because of Covid
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 03, 2022, 07:03:27 AM
Any downside to wheel wells? Like the kicks losing pop faster, or anything like that. Picked up a polar this sale weekend and probably going to set it up on my main ride pretty soon.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 03, 2022, 07:06:32 AM
Any downside to wheel wells? Like the kicks losing pop faster, or anything like that. Picked up a polar this sale weekend and probably going to set it up on my main ride pretty soon.

I asked the same question in the polar shapes thread and the feedback was pretty much all neutral/positive. No stress cracks or board weakness, just less likely to wheelbite.

I think a bunch of us grabbed ww polar boards from 303 so we’re all going to find out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on June 03, 2022, 07:08:35 AM
Any downside to wheel wells? Like the kicks losing pop faster, or anything like that. Picked up a polar this sale weekend and probably going to set it up on my main ride pretty soon.

Only one I noticed is that crooks feel weird if the wells are really deep. Deck with diy wells held up great
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 03, 2022, 09:22:40 AM
How do I become an actor? Should I get a manager or an agent?

How does one even find out where to try out for roles?

I know I’m always going to be a bad guy or a homeless person so I can deal with it.

I can sing I’m a pretty good dancer. I can switch flip sometimes so that’s kinda cool.

I can cry on command. Get shaking and foaming at the mouth angry first try.

I can play 9 instruments. I can paint a mural.

I can’t swim tho.

What would you do pal? I wanna work in pictures
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 03, 2022, 09:49:06 AM
How do I become an actor? Should I get a manager or an agent?

How does one even find out where to try out for roles?

I know I’m always going to be a bad guy or a homeless person so I can deal with it.

I can sing I’m a pretty good dancer. I can switch flip sometimes so that’s kinda cool.

I can cry on command. Get shaking and foaming at the mouth angry first try.

I can play 9 instruments. I can paint a mural.

I can’t swim tho.

What would you do pal? I wanna work in pictures
Step 1 would probably involve signing up for acting lessons. From there it's probably linked to the school to get work as an extra and auditions etc. I don't think open auditions for randoms happen all that often. You have a distinctive look which could work in your advantage. My guess is the switch flip won't come into play (pun intended)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on June 03, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?


Material of the obstacles is this dark stuff:

https://m.augsburger-allgemeine.de/schwabmuenchen/Lagerlechfeld-Was-Jugendliche-vom-neuen-Skatepark-in-Lagerlechfeld-halten-id58296051.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on June 03, 2022, 11:34:09 AM
Any downside to wheel wells? Like the kicks losing pop faster, or anything like that. Picked up a polar this sale weekend and probably going to set it up on my main ride pretty soon.

Not a one for me, especially if you ride loose and or thunders. Wish more made them and polar made a twin with them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 03, 2022, 03:18:07 PM
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How do I become an actor? Should I get a manager or an agent?

How does one even find out where to try out for roles?

I know I’m always going to be a bad guy or a homeless person so I can deal with it.

I can sing I’m a pretty good dancer. I can switch flip sometimes so that’s kinda cool.

I can cry on command. Get shaking and foaming at the mouth angry first try.

I can play 9 instruments. I can paint a mural.

I can’t swim tho.

What would you do pal? I wanna work in pictures
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Step 1 would probably involve signing up for acting lessons. From there it's probably linked to the school to get work as an extra and auditions etc. I don't think open auditions for randoms happen all that often. You have a distinctive look which could work in your advantage. My guess is the switch flip won't come into play (pun intended)

thank you
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on June 03, 2022, 04:15:46 PM
Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?


Material of the obstacles is this dark stuff:

https://m.augsburger-allgemeine.de/schwabmuenchen/Lagerlechfeld-Was-Jugendliche-vom-neuen-Skatepark-in-Lagerlechfeld-halten-id58296051.html

I guess it depends on how rough the ground is exactly. I'm fine on 54mm OG Classics in 99a for rough canadian asphalt and my local DIY which is really crusty personally. I guess you could go 97a conical fulls if it's overly crusty though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on June 03, 2022, 05:25:02 PM
Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?
I wouldn't go much softer, as that will mess up the feel just as much as the rough ground. Get a slightly bigger wheel with a wider contact patch.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on June 03, 2022, 06:39:58 PM
Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?


Material of the obstacles is this dark stuff:

https://m.augsburger-allgemeine.de/schwabmuenchen/Lagerlechfeld-Was-Jugendliche-vom-neuen-Skatepark-in-Lagerlechfeld-halten-id58296051.html

(https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/bilder/crop58295661/070942363-cv16_9-w940-owebp/Freizeitsport-Graben?t=.jpg)

I wouldn't change my wheels for this
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 03, 2022, 07:07:53 PM
Anyone ever notice Ben Degros constantly contradicts himself? Most recently in the woodshop video he calls out Gifted Hater's preference for longer boards. GH seems to ride Sci Fi's, which in 8.5 are the same length that Ben himself says he's been riding in another video. He praises Indy's turning then says they're too clunky and Thunders feel more nimble. Like most of us with the madness he simply prefers what he isn't currently on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 03, 2022, 07:09:38 PM
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Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?


Material of the obstacles is this dark stuff:

https://m.augsburger-allgemeine.de/schwabmuenchen/Lagerlechfeld-Was-Jugendliche-vom-neuen-Skatepark-in-Lagerlechfeld-halten-id58296051.html

(https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/bilder/crop58295661/070942363-cv16_9-w940-owebp/Freizeitsport-Graben?t=.jpg)
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I wouldn't change my wheels for this

I just moved to an area with lots of parks and unless you're dominating large transition I wouldn't worry about it. I rode 99A F4 before moving and they have felt great on the slippery parks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: klobynrenn on June 04, 2022, 05:07:57 AM
Does anybody know what shoes these are? Screenshot from that “it’s all good” edit by Nicolas Marti, around the 6min10sec mark. Not sure who the skater wearing em is. They look almost exactly how I would imagine a Last Resort Cupsole Hi would look but I doubt that’s what they are

(https://i.imgur.com/RAdgd6X_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 04, 2022, 05:54:13 AM
Does anybody know what shoes these are? Screenshot from that “it’s all good” edit by Nicolas Marti, around the 6min10sec mark. Not sure who the skater wearing em is. They look almost exactly how I would imagine a Last Resort Cupsole Hi would look but I doubt that’s what they are

(https://i.imgur.com/RAdgd6X_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Maybe Jordan 2s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: klobynrenn on June 04, 2022, 05:56:55 AM
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Does anybody know what shoes these are? Screenshot from that “it’s all good” edit by Nicolas Marti, around the 6min10sec mark. Not sure who the skater wearing em is. They look almost exactly how I would imagine a Last Resort Cupsole Hi would look but I doubt that’s what they are

(https://i.imgur.com/RAdgd6X_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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Maybe Jordan 2s

Oh yeah looks like you’re right, cheers!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on June 04, 2022, 06:18:20 AM
How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 04, 2022, 07:06:05 AM
What are some favorite 8.5” shapes for people on thunders?

Preferably with a tail longer than 6.5 and a wheelbase 14”-14.3

I recently stepped up from a quasi proto 8.25 (tapered to 8” on the back) and the 8.5 feels really cozy and I wanna grab a couple more

Thanks pals!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 04, 2022, 07:35:55 AM
Any of the DLX 8.5x14.25x31.8 like the Blue Eagle/Gonz sweatpants shape, DLX 8.5 Full SE, FA/Hockey 8.5 come to mind
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on June 04, 2022, 10:41:34 AM
How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.

My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 04, 2022, 11:32:12 AM
Any of the DLX 8.5x14.25x31.8 like the Blue Eagle/Gonz sweatpants shape, DLX 8.5 Full SE, FA/Hockey 8.5 come to mind
I’ve been eyeing up the blue eagle, it’s probably my time. I’m sure these are all great as dlx on bbs is always a good time. Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on June 04, 2022, 12:08:54 PM
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How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
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My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Thanks bruh, nice clip!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 04, 2022, 01:28:50 PM
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How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
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My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Thanks bruh, nice clip!
I think people hate this tip but if darkpools technique isn't working for you the other way that I found worked is if you have a ledge with ends on it Ollie from before the ledge starts in line with the edge. I feel like this reduces the resistance to the grind and you can at least get a feeling for doing the crooked or 5-0 grind so when you move on to doing them "properly" from side on you at least are used to balancing while grinding. Also with the 5-0 dropping to 5050 you are allowed to over compensate and drop to tail drag while you're learning. sometimes certain spots you might even need to taildrag a 5-0 so once again it's worth being used to the feeling of the grind.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on June 04, 2022, 03:12:56 PM
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How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
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My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Thanks bruh, nice clip!

No problem! Best of luck on dialing these tricks in! I practice my tricks stationary/really slow on curbs before taking them anywhere with speed.  That might help you to find your footing with crook.

 Thanks!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 04, 2022, 06:48:37 PM
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Any downside to wheel wells? Like the kicks losing pop faster, or anything like that. Picked up a polar this sale weekend and probably going to set it up on my main ride pretty soon.
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I asked the same question in the polar shapes thread and the feedback was pretty much all neutral/positive. No stress cracks or board weakness, just less likely to wheelbite.

I think a bunch of us grabbed ww polar boards from 303 so we’re all going to find out

Thanks for the input! Looking forward to trying them out. The WB is definitely 14.25 instead of the stated 14.125 though ...-_-
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 04, 2022, 06:51:50 PM
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Getting a new skate Park near me, but the ground is kind of ruff.

Should I get bigger softer wheels? How big and how soft would you go if you still want to be able to nose and tail slide ?


Material of the obstacles is this dark stuff:

https://m.augsburger-allgemeine.de/schwabmuenchen/Lagerlechfeld-Was-Jugendliche-vom-neuen-Skatepark-in-Lagerlechfeld-halten-id58296051.html

(https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/bilder/crop58295661/070942363-cv16_9-w940-owebp/Freizeitsport-Graben?t=.jpg)
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I wouldn't change my wheels for this

I ride 58s at the park usually so me neither.

Maybe they should get some 97s. I haven’t really tried them so idk.

Big is the way at this park if you want lines with lower effort.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: europa1991 on June 04, 2022, 07:40:27 PM
How do I become an actor? Should I get a manager or an agent?

How does one even find out where to try out for roles?

I know I’m always going to be a bad guy or a homeless person so I can deal with it.

I can sing I’m a pretty good dancer. I can switch flip sometimes so that’s kinda cool.

I can cry on command. Get shaking and foaming at the mouth angry first try.

I can play 9 instruments. I can paint a mural.

I can’t swim tho.

What would you do pal? I wanna work in pictures
If you’re looking for gigs sign up for mandy.com or check your states (or nearby large city’s) film office for listings. Doing student films in a local university is a good way to build up a demo reel. There’s a lot you can do in your area, unless you live in Alaska or some shit lol, that won’t require you to pack up and move to LA or NY since you’re just starting out. Don’t worry about agents or managers yet- just start small and focus on getting a solid resume with a good bit of variety… then comes the fun in joining SAG lol best of luck to you. Some great advice I heard once is that “acting is the humiliating… once you accept that, you can do anything” Kill the ego and lose yourself etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 04, 2022, 08:19:12 PM
Should someone start a madness support thread?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on June 04, 2022, 08:23:25 PM
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How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
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My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Thanks bruh, nice clip!

Old tip someone told me for crooks that work like a champ: put your popping foot in the heel side pocket and front foot like you're about to do a FS 180. Look at the ledge and line your front shoulder up with where you want to end up. When you pop your board will rotate FS to line up with your shoulder and your truck and body will be at a good starting angle. I ride basically parallel to the ledge and at the last second arc maybe 10 degrees at most.

Once you're locked lean back and focus on keeping your back foot in contact with the board. When you pop out momentarily lighten the nose and lift the front foot and the board will level out perfectly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 04, 2022, 11:31:41 PM
Should someone start a madness support thread?

Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on June 06, 2022, 12:50:18 AM
Why did Ace have such weird sizing for their trucks above 8" until they released the AF1? In a strange way it kinda makes sense with an 8.35 axle being a sort of middle ground between 8.25 and 8.5, and I do recall the time period prior to 148/144's where Thunder/Indy only had an 8 and an 8.5, but why did Ace opt to do just an 8.35?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on June 06, 2022, 01:03:16 AM
Why did Ace have such weird sizing for their trucks above 8" until they released the AF1? In a strange way it kinda makes sense with an 8.35 axle being a sort of middle ground between 8.25 and 8.5, and I do recall the time period prior to 148/144's where Thunder/Indy only had an 8 and an 8.5, but why did Ace opt to do just an 8.35?

Yeah, I wonder if its something to stand out OR if its to cut down the amount of truck sizes they have to produce in regards to the most common board sizes. It makes it a more versatile truck for skaters in that regard too which is a selling point many of us are on board with.

I'm sure the logic is: Why make a truck that can only really cover ONE "common" deck size at a time when you can cover TWO very well?

SO many 8.25 decks and 8.5 decks are out there. By comparison (if they were to make a 8.25 truck), there are not as many decks that are 8.15 and 8.35. Less valuable to cover that range since it only covers one common deck size (8.25).

The only thing that confuses me is why haven't they produced a 8.63 yet? The 8.35 -> 9 chasm is sort of absurd. Are there really that many more people skating ~6.5 and ~7.0 width boards to produce those two models over ones that cover 8.5 and 8.75 decks?

With how popular wide decks are right now, I'm really shocked they haven't made an 8.63 Classic yet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on June 06, 2022, 01:44:34 AM
The gap between 8.35 and 9 was resolved with the AF1 line, it seems. Good point, though! Such a large gap forever with Ace.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on June 06, 2022, 02:21:42 AM
The gap between 8.35 and 9 was resolved with the AF1 line, it seems. Good point, though! Such a large gap forever with Ace.

And only a few months ago with the introduction of the AF1 60s (8.75”). The gap from 8.5” to 9” was still a bit much for about a year with the AF1s albeit not quite as big as from 8.35” to 9” with the Classics. Having a 8,675“ Ace 50 Classic would be awesome but I doubt they’ll ever introduce new sizes for the Classics.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on June 06, 2022, 06:59:39 AM
The problem is people only looking at the axle width instead of the thing that actually matters: hanger width.
The 44 classic (and 55 Af1) is 146mm without an inner speed ring. It's a great 8.25 truck. If you only use a single inner speed ring on each side, you're at about 148mm, that's an 8.5 truck. The 55 classic (and 66 AF1) hanger is 159mm without speed rings, which is basically a 8.75 truck. Make it a 9" with speed rings.
It all makes sense but people kept bitching about needing an 8.5 and 8.75 truck even though it was always there. (The new 155mm 60 is still a great size.)
8.25 up to 9.0 perfectly covered and the only mistake ace made is expecting customers to be smart
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on June 06, 2022, 08:00:26 AM
Who else skated to beach house besides mark suciu in away days? For the life of me I can't remember.
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Post by: twic3 on June 06, 2022, 08:14:28 AM
Who else skated to beach house besides mark suciu in away days? For the life of me I can't remember.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMEudStxTJA

They use Space Song in this video
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Post by: Síota on June 06, 2022, 08:36:57 AM
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Who else skated to beach house besides mark suciu in away days? For the life of me I can't remember.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMEudStxTJA

They use Space Song in this video
Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on June 06, 2022, 08:52:21 AM
The problem is people only looking at the axle width instead of the thing that actually matters: hanger width.
The 44 classic (and 55 Af1) is 146mm without an inner speed ring. It's a great 8.25 truck. If you only use a single inner speed ring on each side, you're at about 148mm, that's an 8.5 truck. The 55 classic (and 66 AF1) hanger is 159mm without speed rings, which is basically a 8.75 truck. Make it a 9" with speed rings.
It all makes sense but people kept bitching about needing an 8.5 and 8.75 truck even though it was always there. (The new 155mm 60 is still a great size.)
8.25 up to 9.0 perfectly covered and the only mistake ace made is expecting customers to be smart

Not quite. The Classic 55s are closer to 162 Hanger width (when you actually measure the little coned ends to the hanger. There is enough difference between the 60s 9 (about 154mm hangers)  and 66s to make the additional size worth it. The 60s are only a couple of mm narrower than a traditional 159 Indy or Thunder.

While axle is not as important as hanger width on performance it certainly a measurement people use to line up their decks with. I think the Af1 sizes are spot on and a welcome addition.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on June 06, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
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The problem is people only looking at the axle width instead of the thing that actually matters: hanger width.
The 44 classic (and 55 Af1) is 146mm without an inner speed ring. It's a great 8.25 truck. If you only use a single inner speed ring on each side, you're at about 148mm, that's an 8.5 truck. The 55 classic (and 66 AF1) hanger is 159mm without speed rings, which is basically a 8.75 truck. Make it a 9" with speed rings.
It all makes sense but people kept bitching about needing an 8.5 and 8.75 truck even though it was always there. (The new 155mm 60 is still a great size.)
8.25 up to 9.0 perfectly covered and the only mistake ace made is expecting customers to be smart
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Not quite. The Classic 55s are closer to 162 Hanger width (when you actually measure the little coned ends to the hanger. There is enough difference between the 60s 9 (about 154mm hangers)  and 66s to make the additional size worth it. The 60s are only a couple of mm narrower than a traditional 159 Indy or Thunder.

While axle is not as important as hanger width on performance it certainly a measurement people use to line up their decks with. I think the Af1 sizes are spot on and a welcome addition.

My 55 classics and 66 AF1 are 159mm and 160mm with the coned ends but yeah they're supposed to be 162. My Af1 44s are also smaller than advertised. Only my 55 AF1 lows are spot on 146mm.
I agree the 60s are worthy, but people needing separate 8.25 and 8.5 was kinda stupid in my opinion
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on June 06, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
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How on earth do you lock into crooks on a ledge. I can slappy them but I have no idea how to pop and lock into those.

Also how do you 5-0, I can get onto the ledge on the tail but inevitably lean forward after a few inches and continue 50/50.

Thanks in advance.
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My recommendation for crook (assuming It's BS) on a ledge is focus on your pop and weight of your front foot. Most have issue with not popping high enough or putting enough pressure.

 Be approaching the ledge at a 15 degree angle (almost straight on but not quite) and once you're close enough, pop straight up and let it hang for milliseconds longer than you think and then push all your weight of your front foot on to the nose at a slight angle to lock the front truck in. Aim to have your heel side wheel on your front truck to be on top of the ledge so you can pinch the hangar adjacent to it. Once you lock in, lean back a bit but leave the pressure on your front foot. It's important to put more pressure on your heel of your front foot rather than your toes.

For 5-0, are you leaning back enough? And are you going fast enough to maintain the balance? I find that I need more speed than I want to have to do 5-0s but it works when I suck it up and go faster while leaning back a little bit.

Hope that helps!

Here's a clip where I do a BS Crook to fakie on a box. You can see how I approach and where my weight is to grind it. If ya wanna check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVeYgALpOf4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Thanks bruh, nice clip!
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Old tip someone told me for crooks that work like a champ: put your popping foot in the heel side pocket and front foot like you're about to do a FS 180. Look at the ledge and line your front shoulder up with where you want to end up. When you pop your board will rotate FS to line up with your shoulder and your truck and body will be at a good starting angle. I ride basically parallel to the ledge and at the last second arc maybe 10 degrees at most.

Once you're locked lean back and focus on keeping your back foot in contact with the board. When you pop out momentarily lighten the nose and lift the front foot and the board will level out perfectly.

Thanks again for the tipps, managed to get a bs crook on a small ledge today.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hobochimp on June 06, 2022, 01:40:52 PM
what was the height on indy lows when they made them? I can't seem to find this anywhere and for some reason I'm really curious.
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Post by: Ok on June 06, 2022, 02:16:59 PM
what was the height on indy lows when they made them? I can't seem to find this anywhere and for some reason I'm really curious.


I think 48
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Post by: rocklobster on June 06, 2022, 06:20:26 PM
what was the height on indy lows when they made them? I can't seem to find this anywhere and for some reason I'm really curious.

48.5mm
https://www.longboarderlabs.com/product/independent-trucks-low-stg-11-standard-129mm-silver/

I have a pair of Reynolds Hollows with a cast baseplate, doubt they ever did a forged version of these.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 06, 2022, 09:00:36 PM
Yup, that's why most of the Indy dudes that rode them went to Thunder 147s since they're fairly close-ish.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on June 06, 2022, 10:59:27 PM
Fuck yes!! @Easy Slider stoked for ya!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 06:36:04 AM
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Should someone start a madness support thread?
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Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?

Would it be better to try and cure madness by forcing a single setup, or treat it by having like 10 setups?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 07, 2022, 06:40:33 AM
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Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?
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Would it be better to try and cure madness by forcing a single setup, or treat it by having like 10 setups?
I've gotten down to three setups. Seems to be a nice manageable number altho I think 5 or 6 could be ok too. Or maybe 7 perhaps 8.......
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 06:56:26 AM
Been considering getting some vulcs again, i used to wear sk8-his all the time but i havent tried them since they updated to the "skate" line. I've never owned a pair of half cabs. How do the "skate" Sk8-his compare to the "skate" halfcabs? I hate this new vans naming system haha.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 07, 2022, 06:57:27 AM
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Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?
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Would it be better to try and cure madness by forcing a single setup, or treat it by having like 10 setups?
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I've gotten down to three setups. Seems to be a nice manageable number altho I think 5 or 6 could be ok too. Or maybe 7 perhaps 8.......


Ha yeah, the madness is in having essentially the exact same setup over and over and over again, but all at the same time is something I have been dealing with ever since being able to afford more skate product with shop discounts / wholesale prices, but I like to make the setups different in little ways, eg wheel wear which results in different size, then re shape some, even duro from 92, 95, 97, 99 and 101 Spitfires, depending on what I am going to skate, but it would probably be a whole lot more simple to only have a few setups.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 07, 2022, 07:01:35 AM
Been considering getting some vulcs again, i used to wear sk8-his all the time but i havent tried them since they updated to the "skate" line. I've never owned a pair of half cabs. How do the "skate" Sk8-his compare to the "skate" halfcabs? I hate this new vans naming system haha.


The "Skate" line really is an amazing upgrade and well worth it if you want a better performing vulc shoe.  Best to try them on in person though as sizing can be a bit funny (often a touch tight) from trying them on, but never got past that with the "Skate" range, including the ones I have bought.

I do have a lot of others to get through first.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 07, 2022, 07:04:11 AM
Been considering getting some vulcs again, i used to wear sk8-his all the time but i havent tried them since they updated to the "skate" line. I've never owned a pair of half cabs. How do the "skate" Sk8-his compare to the "skate" halfcabs? I hate this new vans naming system haha.

Honestly the fit is pretty damn close, but since they're an actual high it really depends on how tight you lace them as they do have more ankle support. For me the Sk8 Hi and the Old School toebox feels a bit different than the Half Cab and Slip on/Authentic/Era. It's shorter and more rounded, but not massively different. One thing with the new line is the foxing tape is really thick and takes a while to break in for flip tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 07, 2022, 07:06:29 AM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 07:09:28 AM
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Been considering getting some vulcs again, i used to wear sk8-his all the time but i havent tried them since they updated to the "skate" line. I've never owned a pair of half cabs. How do the "skate" Sk8-his compare to the "skate" halfcabs? I hate this new vans naming system haha.
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Honestly the fit is pretty damn close, but since they're an actual high it really depends on how tight you lace them as they do have more ankle support. For me the Sk8 Hi and the Old School toebox feels a bit different than the Half Cab and Slip on/Authentic/Era. It's shorter and more rounded, but not massively different. One thing with the new line is the foxing tape is really thick and takes a while to break in for flip tricks.

which would you say has a wider toe box? which would you say locks your heel in place better?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 07:14:20 AM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.

I have one board for "regular" skating, tricks and such. and then a couple cruiser/fun setups. If i was you, i would go with the 8.38 and just work on your technique for the tricks you're struggling on. 8.38 is easier to find, and if you can skate it faster and pop it higher, id say its worth just working out the kinks on your slide tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on June 07, 2022, 07:16:36 AM
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Should someone start a madness support thread?
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Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?
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Would it be better to try and cure madness by forcing a single setup, or treat it by having like 10 setups?

My vote is for forcing a single setup, even if it's not super exciting. The best setup is the one you're used to, even if the pop/turn/grind/pinch isn't the absolute best it could possibly be.
I basically stopped progressing at all because I've switched gear around for a year. Then went back to what I've been riding before and started progressing again. The limbo of getting used to new gear is just terrible. You're better off only skating a setup you don't even like at all. Just get used to it ONCE and skate. You won't have to think about anything else anymore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 07:20:41 AM
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Should someone start a madness support thread?
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Why start a thread for a condition that has no cure?
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Would it be better to try and cure madness by forcing a single setup, or treat it by having like 10 setups?
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My vote is for forcing a single setup, even if it's not super exciting. The best setup is the one you're used to, even if the pop/turn/grind/pinch isn't the absolute best it could possibly be.
I basically stopped progressing at all because I've switched gear around for a year. Then went back to what I've been riding before and started progressing again. The limbo of getting used to new gear is just terrible. You're better off only skating a setup you don't even like at all. Just get used to it ONCE and skate. You won't have to think about anything else anymore.

you're probably right......but something is up with these trucks i swear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 07, 2022, 07:29:45 AM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.
My three are a crooked zig zagger 8.6 with soft wheels= cruiser so going a to b (altho honestly this doesn't happen often at all anymore) just skatepark cruise around. Enjoi 7.75 so flatground Manny pads etc and a shaped zero 9 with 55mm wheels more of a skatepark board. I feel them all being so different makes having multiple setups ok. I could probably just setup an 8.25-8.6 normal board again to have just one but I already have all the other stuff so I use it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on June 07, 2022, 08:12:13 AM
I have multiple setups because sometimes i get it in my head that I want build a certain board that I know I wont really ride, but I like having it. It's like an ever changing project car. I have one board that I skate every day, and then another that's constantly being changed, that I'll ride every once in a while
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 07, 2022, 09:03:23 AM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.

My abilities feel fairly capped at this point, so having multiple set ups gives me different skate experiences and is a lot of fun. I have my main board which is a Polar Popsicle, but I also have a huffer on slightly bigger wheels thats more of a park/ditch board and a twin tail i just set up that's been surprisingly fun. Plus a cruiser I keep in the house for liquor store runs.

To some peoples points, it can throw me off for a session when switching between trucks, but my skating is pretty basic so for the most part I don't lose too much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on June 07, 2022, 09:41:23 AM
I saw Indy released the forged hollow mids recently but does anyone know if they're going to sell the forged mid plate separately like they do with the standard mid plate? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on June 07, 2022, 09:58:59 AM
I saw Indy released the forged hollow mids recently but does anyone know if they're going to sell the forged mid plate separately like they do with the standard mid plate?

Didn't see it in catalogs up to Spring 23
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 07, 2022, 10:28:11 AM
The 8.475 is a Baker and super similar to the DLX 8.4 and 8.5 Eagle as well as the Baker 8.25 so I thought it could open up some possibilities. Generally speaking I love how predictable and techy it is, flips feel as if they require way less effort, but overall 14.38-14.5 feels a bit chiller at 6 foot 3. I was swayed by Reynolds discussing his sizing down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2022, 12:17:28 PM
how does the fit of the new skate SK8-his compare to the skate half cabs? I asked a little while back but it got buried. I'm not talking about sizing, as much as im concerned about the toe box and heel lock. Sk8-his dont really lock my heels in well, but the toe box is adequate for my foot. if the skate half cabs lock your heels in better and maybe have a slightly wider toe box, im sold. no skate shops near me to try on in person.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 07, 2022, 12:55:38 PM
The 8.475 is a Baker and super similar to the DLX 8.4 and 8.5 Eagle as well as the Baker 8.25 so I thought it could open up some possibilities. Generally speaking I love how predictable and techy it is, flips feel as if they require way less effort, but overall 14.38-14.5 feels a bit chiller at 6 foot 3. I was swayed by Reynolds discussing his sizing down.


Is the 8.475 still the b16 shape? It’s an extremely good looking skateboard. Fair but of taper I think. Real versatile, darn near everyone on baker was repping that shape, with many different truck sizes being used. I’ve skated one with Indy 159s, and thunder 147s…I really like the way that deck looks.
I can’t do any of the tricks you were talking about, and would be really happy with a backtail, so whatever works for that, keep doing it.
Where did Reynolds discuss the sizing down? What’s he on now? Proportionally he skates one of the smallest setups in pro skating rn.

I’ve got way too many setups. Skated 3 last night, all with thunders (147, 148, 149). I’m not getting any better. More setups isn’t helping. Next one is gonna be the one tho. I can feel it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 07, 2022, 01:09:09 PM
how does the fit of the new skate SK8-his compare to the skate half cabs? I asked a little while back but it got buried. I'm not talking about sizing, as much as im concerned about the toe box and heel lock. Sk8-his dont really lock my heels in well, but the toe box is adequate for my foot. if the skate half cabs lock your heels in better and maybe have a slightly wider toe box, im sold. no skate shops near me to try on in person.

Hey sorry about that. Honestly I find that the toe box is a bit narrower but the mid foot doesn't hug the top of my foot quite as well. Maybe the Half Cabs hold my foot in slightly better, but it's really close and comes down to lacing. With the Half Cabs I don't lace the last lace hole and kinda just tighten the top 2 when I put em on. They feel fairly strapped, but not cinched cuz of the padded tongue. The Sk8 Hi are sorta like my Rowans, which have a thin tongue and I don't strap em as tight because that's not comfortable and if I get the ankle too tight I cannot flick. I'd say go try them on or order from somewhere that allows returns because they seem polarizing even tho no one I know in the real world has any problems with the updates.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 07, 2022, 01:12:59 PM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

I have 2 of the exact same set ups, just one with wider wheels and deck rails.

New boards go on to set-up #1, no rails and with classics. I pull it out for ledges or whatever street park that needs a crispy deck.

Once it gets soggy, that deck goes on to set-up #2 with rails and radials, which I use to skate everything else.

This basically helps me really use every deck down to the last bit of life, but gives me the option to use something newer depending on what I’m skating.

Other than that I have a bigger set up with 56s for just transition
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 07, 2022, 01:24:02 PM
how does the fit of the new skate SK8-his compare to the skate half cabs? I asked a little while back but it got buried. I'm not talking about sizing, as much as im concerned about the toe box and heel lock. Sk8-his dont really lock my heels in well, but the toe box is adequate for my foot. if the skate half cabs lock your heels in better and maybe have a slightly wider toe box, im sold. no skate shops near me to try on in person.
I just got a pair of the skate half cabs yesterday. I wore them most of the day and a while today. They don’t feel too narrow, but most def more narrow than my last pair of halfs, which weren’t the pros. I don’t feel like the toe box is huge…it feels just right. Heel feels locked in and ready to party. I can’t wait to skate them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on June 07, 2022, 06:21:53 PM
Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on June 07, 2022, 06:28:37 PM
Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?

I live in Tulsa so we probably have close to the same crazy weather patterns. I do this year round. Not saying it’s smart but I’ve not noticed anything warping before. Someone on here smarter than me probably has a better answer but yeah I’ve not noticed anything. I do typically chip boards sometimes so that may be part of it. Idk.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: I Can't Think on June 07, 2022, 09:45:38 PM
Indys with forged baseplates are 53.5mm high with a WB of +3.15~ right? Same WB as the tensor ATGs and the new royals? From what I found the forged indys have a slightly wider WB than regular indys but I found conflicting info when I searched around.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 07, 2022, 11:34:20 PM
Indys with forged baseplates are 53.5mm high with a WB of +3.15~ right? Same WB as the tensor ATGs and the new royals? From what I found the forged indys have a slightly wider WB than regular indys but I found conflicting info when I searched around.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

I usually come back to this thread for reference.

From my last measurement Royals are +3.15", similar to a Thunder Team (Cast baseplate) and Indy Hollow Forged
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: I Can't Think on June 08, 2022, 12:03:01 AM
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Indys with forged baseplates are 53.5mm high with a WB of +3.15~ right? Same WB as the tensor ATGs and the new royals? From what I found the forged indys have a slightly wider WB than regular indys but I found conflicting info when I searched around.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

I usually come back to this thread for reference.

From my last measurement Royals are +3.15", similar to a Thunder Team (Cast baseplate) and Indy Hollow Forged

Perfect! Thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 08, 2022, 06:56:36 AM
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Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?
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I live in Tulsa so we probably have close to the same crazy weather patterns. I do this year round. Not saying it’s smart but I’ve not noticed anything warping before. Someone on here smarter than me probably has a better answer but yeah I’ve not noticed anything. I do typically chip boards sometimes so that may be part of it. Idk.


Theoretically if the wood is cured right you should be fine. Warping comes from moisture content in the wood evaporating but most of the Maple is kiln dried at much higher temps. It won't melt the glue.

 It can soften your bushings though. I notice this now even keeping my board in my garage I can step on it and they feel pretty gnarly for like 15-20min as they get to normal temps.

I actually tested this out: I put my board on a piece of plywood and clamped it. I then took a known calibrated 45lb weight and put it on the wheel and measured how close to the deck it got. I skated for an hour in 72F and came back again and it was about half the movement.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on June 08, 2022, 07:11:26 AM
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Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?
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I live in Tulsa so we probably have close to the same crazy weather patterns. I do this year round. Not saying it’s smart but I’ve not noticed anything warping before. Someone on here smarter than me probably has a better answer but yeah I’ve not noticed anything. I do typically chip boards sometimes so that may be part of it. Idk.

I know keeping boards in my trunk had been bad for me but I live in a more humid area than Arizona. Not warping specifically but my boards felt "softer".
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on June 08, 2022, 07:51:36 AM
Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?


All good answers so far, but here is a story from my experience too.

I had one guy I know from the local skatepark who had a sporty hatch looking vehicle, never covered his boards in the back, always complained that his boards kept getting stress cracks down the length and quite a few even had delamination issues, even though he never skated that hard or broke a board skating.  Others had told him not to leave his boards in the car like that, but he didn't want to listen and I refused to sell him any more decks with him coming back to complain about the wood.

Another half a dozen assorted brands from other shops all had the same issue.  Then when he crashed his fancy car and got a van, his next new board magically had no issues, along with others from then on.  It still took a lot of convincing for him to understand direct light and significant heat would always cause the board to cook in his car, but quite simply putting it in a cardboard board box or even just putting something insulating it from the heat over the board would help a whole lot in stopping those issues.

As for any other things, they all are minimal in comparison to that issue, but I always recommend anyone who is going to leave anything in their car to put it in a closed box, which is pretty good insulation and helps keep boards, decks and any other product safe, as well as out of sight of possible theft from someone seeing a skateboard in a locked car and smashing a window - yes that has happened to others more than a few times over the years too.

If you don't have any board boxes, next time you order something, or even drop in to the local shop and buy something, just ask them for a board box as most places will have quite a few headed for the bin that can be reused for a safe car board storage box.

I have almost permanently kept boards in my car for the last twenty something years, including having the car out in full sun day in, day out for a lot of that and I never really had any issues with any of my boards, spare decks or anything else.  Everything is in cardboard boxes in both the boot and interior, with a thick dark material over the lot on the back seat which has definitely helped.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on June 08, 2022, 11:34:11 AM
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Is it fine to store my boards in my trunk all summer? I live in AR so it gets pretty damn toasty. Will it warp the decks or fuck with the bushings/wheels?
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All good answers so far, but here is a story from my experience too.

I had one guy I know from the local skatepark who had a sporty hatch looking vehicle, never covered his boards in the back, always complained that his boards kept getting stress cracks down the length and quite a few even had delamination issues, even though he never skated that hard or broke a board skating.  Others had told him not to leave his boards in the car like that, but he didn't want to listen and I refused to sell him any more decks with him coming back to complain about the wood.

Another half a dozen assorted brands from other shops all had the same issue.  Then when he crashed his fancy car and got a van, his next new board magically had no issues, along with others from then on.  It still took a lot of convincing for him to understand direct light and significant heat would always cause the board to cook in his car, but quite simply putting it in a cardboard board box or even just putting something insulating it from the heat over the board would help a whole lot in stopping those issues.

As for any other things, they all are minimal in comparison to that issue, but I always recommend anyone who is going to leave anything in their car to put it in a closed box, which is pretty good insulation and helps keep boards, decks and any other product safe, as well as out of sight of possible theft from someone seeing a skateboard in a locked car and smashing a window - yes that has happened to others more than a few times over the years too.

If you don't have any board boxes, next time you order something, or even drop in to the local shop and buy something, just ask them for a board box as most places will have quite a few headed for the bin that can be reused for a safe car board storage box.

I have almost permanently kept boards in my car for the last twenty something years, including having the car out in full sun day in, day out for a lot of that and I never really had any issues with any of my boards, spare decks or anything else.  Everything is in cardboard boxes in both the boot and interior, with a thick dark material over the lot on the back seat which has definitely helped.

Thanks for the insight. I definitely have a cardboard box I can use, and I'll throw some silica packets in there as well. What about the wheels though? Am I going to temporarily have softer wheels until they cool off?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 08, 2022, 12:10:40 PM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.

I have three very different setups. My main setup.
One setup for lazy days and not so much flipping.
One rain/cruiser board which I need often when it rains.
I need to skate to stay mentally sane and happy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 08, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
I have a couple cruisers that I don’t skate much but I’m glad I have them, it’s fun taking them out.  When I have more than one day to day’r….it’s usually an experiment and soon enough I take it apart or sell it.  I’ve slimmed out my quiver to five set ups and I don’t think it’s wasteful….nor overly necessary….

While we’re on this though…..I mean how many t-shirts do we ACTUALLY need?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 08, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
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What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.
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I have three very different setups. My main setup.
One setup for lazy days and not so much flipping.
One rain/cruiser board which I need often when it rains.
I need to skate to stay mentally sane and happy.

Big fax
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on June 08, 2022, 10:53:27 PM
Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.

 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on June 09, 2022, 03:36:03 AM

Thanks for the insight. I definitely have a cardboard box I can use, and I'll throw some silica packets in there as well. What about the wheels though? Am I going to temporarily have softer wheels until they cool off?


Never really noticed any other differences, but even when the car was hot to get into, the boards were not overly warm and the trucks were still cool to touch, so the cardboard worked really well.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 09, 2022, 06:20:08 AM
Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.

Polar and Madness are the only brands that come to mind that are doing wheel wells these days, and maybe Scram?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on June 09, 2022, 06:51:15 AM
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Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.
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Polar and Madness are the only brands that come to mind that are doing wheel wells these days, and maybe Scram?
Heroin's last drop had some wheel well offerings too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 09, 2022, 03:56:28 PM
Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.


My first question is what is on your setup in terms of trucks, wheels, risers (guessing minimal to none) and how loose you ride your trucks too - sizes of those parts?

Next is what size / width board would you usually ride?

Wider boards with mellow concave are going to have a lot more issues, especially almost flat type boards, as would very narrow boards, but it also depends on whether the wheelbase is longer or shorter on certain molds, eg a shorter mold and longer wheelbase and the wheelbite marks are almost at the ends of the main body (but more into the flatter area where the kicks start) but shorter wheelbase with more fingers of flat often means that the wheelbite if any will be right into the full concave area, so way less likely to touch.

Wheel wells will definitely offset any issues by up to a quarter inch, as per testing and cutting wheel wells into various boards I have, as per post below.


Going back to the setup though, looser / lower trucks are always going to have more issues with wheelbite no matter what deck you have.  Some people will use risers to get away from this, but others flatly refuse - their personal choice - so as much as I would say chronic wheelbite issues can be offset by even minimal risers, that is up to you.


This was unrelated but just something I did the other day, which can definitely help in this situation.  Cutting wheel wells into any deck is not that hard, but it is best to practice on an older board first, before just going hard at it on a new board and making a mess of it.  This is by no means a "professional job" and just something I was having a bit of fun with.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cehqga4Jevg/




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on June 09, 2022, 08:42:59 PM
What are y'all with multiple setups doing with them? I can't imagine needing more than one honestly as my abilities are directly tied to predicting how I do something and then doing it a ton of times.

With that said right now I have both my Baker 8.475 and 8.38 setup in an attempt to find the ultimate and it's not proving helpful. The only trick I can't do well on the 8.38 is fakie front nose and to a lesser extent back tails, but I can skate it faster and loft it higher. The 8.475 is better at those tricks, but less stable for 180s.

it gets even better when ur 40 and beyond.. its like 1 new setup for every month in a year..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on June 10, 2022, 08:19:28 AM
Did the BA.KU. guys ever do a trip to Baku?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: caked on June 10, 2022, 08:29:04 AM
pretty niche question but here goes...do the Adidas Puigs fit/skate similarly to the Copa Nationales? I love skating the Copas after they've broken in, and I enjoy the look of the Puigs. very curious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 10, 2022, 09:11:09 AM
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Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.
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My first question is what is on your setup in terms of trucks, wheels, risers (guessing minimal to none) and how loose you ride your trucks too - sizes of those parts?

Next is what size / width board would you usually ride?

Wider boards with mellow concave are going to have a lot more issues, especially almost flat type boards, as would very narrow boards, but it also depends on whether the wheelbase is longer or shorter on certain molds, eg a shorter mold and longer wheelbase and the wheelbite marks are almost at the ends of the main body (but more into the flatter area where the kicks start) but shorter wheelbase with more fingers of flat often means that the wheelbite if any will be right into the full concave area, so way less likely to touch.

Wheel wells will definitely offset any issues by up to a quarter inch, as per testing and cutting wheel wells into various boards I have, as per post below.


Going back to the setup though, looser / lower trucks are always going to have more issues with wheelbite no matter what deck you have.  Some people will use risers to get away from this, but others flatly refuse - their personal choice - so as much as I would say chronic wheelbite issues can be offset by even minimal risers, that is up to you.


This was unrelated but just something I did the other day, which can definitely help in this situation.  Cutting wheel wells into any deck is not that hard, but it is best to practice on an older board first, before just going hard at it on a new board and making a mess of it.  This is by no means a "professional job" and just something I was having a bit of fun with.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cehqga4Jevg/

Is that a blue meanie? Looks awesome with the wheel wells.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on June 10, 2022, 11:56:52 AM
Anyone ever have their board go soggy after flying? I checked my board for about a 5 hour flight and when I got there it was total mush the next day…
Not that it matters but it is a Busenitz. Was nice and snappy before.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on June 10, 2022, 12:17:15 PM
Anyone ever have their board go soggy after flying? I checked my board for about a 5 hour flight and when I got there it was total mush the next day…
Not that it matters but it is a Busenitz. Was nice and snappy before.

The cold, pressure, and moisture could've effected it. Planes have 2 luggage holds, one that is temperature managed (where they put pets and stuff) and one that isnt where they put normal luggage.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on June 10, 2022, 12:25:54 PM
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Anyone ever have their board go soggy after flying? I checked my board for about a 5 hour flight and when I got there it was total mush the next day…
Not that it matters but it is a Busenitz. Was nice and snappy before.
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The cold, pressure, and moisture could've effected it. Planes have 2 luggage holds, one that is temperature managed (where they put pets and stuff) and one that isnt where they put normal luggage.

It was Southwest so anything could have happened I guess.  I’ve just never had a board be so drastically  different in such a short time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rocko on June 10, 2022, 12:33:36 PM
Anyone ever been the skate warehouse store in SLO? Is it worth checking out? I’m staying about 15 min away so just wanted to see others opinions. Thanks!
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Post by: Schinken on June 10, 2022, 01:45:11 PM
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Does anyone know about brands/shapes which concaves are "big wheel friendly"?

Most of the decks concaves I've ridden/seen flatten out over the wheels, whereas e.g Powell decks still have the full concave over the wheels. I get significantly less wheelbite or can ride bigger wheels with Powell decks.
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My first question is what is on your setup in terms of trucks, wheels, risers (guessing minimal to none) and how loose you ride your trucks too - sizes of those parts?

Next is what size / width board would you usually ride?

Wider boards with mellow concave are going to have a lot more issues, especially almost flat type boards, as would very narrow boards, but it also depends on whether the wheelbase is longer or shorter on certain molds, eg a shorter mold and longer wheelbase and the wheelbite marks are almost at the ends of the main body (but more into the flatter area where the kicks start) but shorter wheelbase with more fingers of flat often means that the wheelbite if any will be right into the full concave area, so way less likely to touch.

Wheel wells will definitely offset any issues by up to a quarter inch, as per testing and cutting wheel wells into various boards I have, as per post below.


Going back to the setup though, looser / lower trucks are always going to have more issues with wheelbite no matter what deck you have.  Some people will use risers to get away from this, but others flatly refuse - their personal choice - so as much as I would say chronic wheelbite issues can be offset by even minimal risers, that is up to you.


This was unrelated but just something I did the other day, which can definitely help in this situation.  Cutting wheel wells into any deck is not that hard, but it is best to practice on an older board first, before just going hard at it on a new board and making a mess of it.  This is by no means a "professional job" and just something I was having a bit of fun with.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cehqga4Jevg/

Didn't think about that, good to know.Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on June 10, 2022, 02:16:53 PM
I know there has to be a post about it somewhere, but what are the benefits of sleeved washers and how do these benefits vary between top and bottom bushing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lazer69 on June 10, 2022, 04:50:34 PM
My trucks keep getting pinched or locked into one side. I don't mean in grinds either.. I got new medium bushings in my thunders as well.  They felt broken in instantly. I think the same was happening with my ventures, but it's worse on thunders.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 10, 2022, 10:41:25 PM

Is that a blue meanie? Looks awesome with the wheel wells.


Sure is.

It is the one I had set up on 159s and just didn't like it.  Left it for a while, then set it up on NOS 149s and 60mm cruiser wheels and it is way more fun.



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Anyone ever have their board go soggy after flying? I checked my board for about a 5 hour flight and when I got there it was total mush the next day…
Not that it matters but it is a Busenitz. Was nice and snappy before.
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The cold, pressure, and moisture could've effected it. Planes have 2 luggage holds, one that is temperature managed (where they put pets and stuff) and one that isnt where they put normal luggage.
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It was Southwest so anything could have happened I guess.  I’ve just never had a board be so drastically  different in such a short time.


I used to fly for work all the time, so had a specific board I would always take as others had warned me against it.  The board ended up about twice as heavy as the same other one - the deck in particular (everything else was fine) and it even felt like it was a lot thicker when I finally stopped taking that board with me on my work flights.

Could be more in my mind than anything else, but it definitely had a whole lot going on compared to every other board I had of that exact same one, even being wrapped up in plastic inside a big bag and often in a luggage transport bag as well.

When I stopped flying, I put that in a box and forgot about it, but after a while when I got it out again, it felt a whole lot more normal again, so who knows really.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ol Nick on June 11, 2022, 01:33:13 PM
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Is that a blue meanie? Looks awesome with the wheel wells.
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Sure is.

It is the one I had set up on 159s and just didn't like it.  Left it for a while, then set it up on NOS 149s and 60mm cruiser wheels and it is way more fun.



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Anyone ever have their board go soggy after flying? I checked my board for about a 5 hour flight and when I got there it was total mush the next day…
Not that it matters but it is a Busenitz. Was nice and snappy before.
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The cold, pressure, and moisture could've effected it. Planes have 2 luggage holds, one that is temperature managed (where they put pets and stuff) and one that isnt where they put normal luggage.
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It was Southwest so anything could have happened I guess.  I’ve just never had a board be so drastically  different in such a short time.
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I used to fly for work all the time, so had a specific board I would always take as others had warned me against it.  The board ended up about twice as heavy as the same other one - the deck in particular (everything else was fine) and it even felt like it was a lot thicker when I finally stopped taking that board with me on my work flights.

Could be more in my mind than anything else, but it definitely had a whole lot going on compared to every other board I had of that exact same one, even being wrapped up in plastic inside a big bag and often in a luggage transport bag as well.

When I stopped flying, I put that in a box and forgot about it, but after a while when I got it out again, it felt a whole lot more normal again, so who knows really.

(https://i.imgur.com/h7BDoRS.jpg)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 11, 2022, 02:29:39 PM
pretty niche question but here goes...do the Adidas Puigs fit/skate similarly to the Copa Nationales? I love skating the Copas after they've broken in, and I enjoy the look of the Puigs. very curious.

Puigs have a little more wiggle room up front and a better heel lock-in. The Copa and the Tyshawn seem to have tighter toe boxes than most of the other recent models, and the Copa heel is pretty low. I had a bit of slip when I started wearing those. Still love them, though.

I should also mention that the Copas I had were the leather ones with the suede toe cap and serrated stripes (the ones that look like the Copa soccer cleat).

(https://i.ibb.co/2hwTFxM/213-AD86-D-BBEC-4-B6-D-A8-B2-5-BD1-A1-EB8431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hwTFxM)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 11, 2022, 09:19:16 PM
Anyone ridden both the Baker 8.38 and DLX that is same specs and have any clue as to how different they are? I thought they were the same and recently got an Anti Hero 8.38 and it feels atrocious. It's a II on the press and think I've mostly ridden III but that seems quite trivial.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 11, 2022, 10:50:05 PM
Anyone ridden both the Baker 8.38 and DLX that is same specs and have any clue as to how different they are? I thought they were the same and recently got an Anti Hero 8.38 and it feels atrocious. It's a II on the press and think I've mostly ridden III but that seems quite trivial.

Haven’t.
But I’ve had better luck with bakers than dlx, and I attribute it to the mellowed shape, slightly pointy, and up until the last two or so years, bakers were shorter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 12, 2022, 02:50:01 AM
Anyone ridden both the Baker 8.38 and DLX that is same specs and have any clue as to how different they are? I thought they were the same and recently got an Anti Hero 8.38 and it feels atrocious. It's a II on the press and think I've mostly ridden III but that seems quite trivial.


After realising they were the same exact shape, I have since had lots of both DLX versions and all the rest, be it Baker or Birdhouse and at least four other BBS companies that used that same 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb shape, even though some were listed as longer and some shorter from their respective company spec sheets / info.

To look at them individually, some looked way more pointy and others looked way more round, mainly due to the graphic I think, but also partly due to the concave, but to sit them on top of each other then swap them over, they really were the same in every way from comparing top / bottom views.

BBS with their four per stack really means you do get a mix of them - half a dozen Baker 8.38 here all in a stack and some are way steeper than others, same as the other boards, even DLX sorted from I through to IV some are more mellow and some are steeper between the same numbers.

I am not proud to say but when I had the chance to get a really good deal on Element decks a few years ago now, I have had 14 of exactly the same board at one point and I arranged them from most mellow (which I preferred) to steepest so they fit well with the mellow on the bottom, but to put one of the steepest on the bottom it was such a big difference.

At one point I used to park the car on some steeper boards to flatten them out, as I just couldn't deal with the steep concave, but more recently (as I have too many) I have been just picking out the more mellow ones and riding them as is more than any others, but I find the mellow ones are easier for street stuff and the steeper ones better for mini ramp stuff.

If you got a steeper board, I can definitely understand how it might feel very awkward for you if you had a more mellow board or two before that one.


Edit:

To add it was interesting to see the Birdhouse deck from the Sale thread link from 2018 has a sticker on top that says "DREAMER 8.38" or something similar.

Same as DLX uses "Dreamer shape" for their boards, maybe from Kyle Walker, but then for all the 8.38 normal decks, whereas I once thought the Dreamer was the really mellow (almost flat) concave that he specifically rides.


https://westernskateco.com/products/birdhouse-ben-raybourn-dreamer-green-8-38-skateboard-deck





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 12, 2022, 09:17:24 AM
Ok so I'm not fucking insane- this anti hero has a 6.875 tail vs 6.625 and 7.25 nose vs 7.0625 on the Baker. I measured with the concave for both as this takes into account the steepness, but even measuring straight across they're different. The Baker ends up at 32 on the dot vs the Anti Hero at 32.25 (straight across).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 12, 2022, 11:24:31 AM
Ok so I'm not fucking insane- this anti hero has a 6.875 tail vs 6.625 and 7.25 nose vs 7.0625 on the Baker. I measured with the concave for both as this takes into account the steepness, but even measuring straight across they're different. The Baker ends up at 32 on the dot vs the Anti Hero at 32.25 (straight across).

I prefer, by quite a bit, boards 32 or less. Out of length, width, wb…length (once thought to be the least relevant) is the least fungible.
Dlx shapes have been too long, full, and steep for me…unless in skating an 8ish bird and then whatever works.
I’ve loved baker boards in the past, like few others. I swear the wood/molds are slightly different, but knowledgeable persons that I believe have the correct info assure me I am incorrect. I had some conspiracy theories about generator, bbs, generator-bbs…but yeah. Gibberish On my part. I’ve tried to not go down the tail length rabbit hole, but it’s difficult for me to ignore that tail lengths greater than 6.6 are pretty much out for me. 6.5 is better. Nose doesn’t need to be over 7, prefer less. This may be why I’ve started to like longer wb’s, but total lengths up to 32: shorter lengths for nose and tail. All I know is I don’t know shit.
But I’d rather ride a baker than a dlx
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: caked on June 12, 2022, 11:53:01 AM
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pretty niche question but here goes...do the Adidas Puigs fit/skate similarly to the Copa Nationales? I love skating the Copas after they've broken in, and I enjoy the look of the Puigs. very curious.
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Puigs have a little more wiggle room up front and a better heel lock-in. The Copa and the Tyshawn seem to have tighter toe boxes than most of the other recent models, and the Copa heel is pretty low. I had a bit of slip when I started wearing those. Still love them, though.

I should also mention that the Copas I had were the leather ones with the suede toe cap and serrated stripes (the ones that look like the Copa soccer cleat).

(https://i.ibb.co/2hwTFxM/213-AD86-D-BBEC-4-B6-D-A8-B2-5-BD1-A1-EB8431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hwTFxM)

this is super helpful, thank you! also the answer I wanted to hear, I have kind of wider feet so the Copas were tight at first but great once broken in. good to know! now to cop some shoes that I definitely don't need right now haha.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on June 12, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
any way to get indys to turn like the af1s?
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on June 12, 2022, 12:53:41 PM
any way to get indys to turn like the af1s?

Sorry, doubt it, the geometry is quite different.  :(

I have a dumb question about socks. I've never had a nice thick pair of Stance socks until now, whenever I wear them my feet hurt less. I usually wear thin cheap department store socks. Placebo? Or are nice thick socks actually comfier on your feets?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 12, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Absolutely are. I thought the same when I rode and raced bikes until I got on a team that had a sock sponsor. No sore spots, my feet felt better in the arches, and my shoes felt more like gloves. Also Stance socks seem to last me the longest and don't fall down which is a huge pet peeve so I keep a close eye on Stance sales.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on June 12, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
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any way to get indys to turn like the af1s?
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Sorry, doubt it, the geometry is quite different.  :(

I have a dumb question about socks. I've never had a nice thick pair of Stance socks until now, whenever I wear them my feet hurt less. I usually wear thin cheap department store socks. Placebo? Or are nice thick socks actually comfier on your feets?

I also prefer thicker socks for skating. I think it's just more stuff between the feet and the shoes, so your feet feel a bit more protected? Anyway, I can't do thin socks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 12, 2022, 01:36:44 PM
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any way to get indys to turn like the af1s?
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Sorry, doubt it, the geometry is quite different.  :(

I have a dumb question about socks. I've never had a nice thick pair of Stance socks until now, whenever I wear them my feet hurt less. I usually wear thin cheap department store socks. Placebo? Or are nice thick socks actually comfier on your feets?

I often wear wool hiking socks to skate. Less sog, less stank, and less slip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on June 12, 2022, 01:42:39 PM
Thank you all for your very helpful responses, guess that means I'm going sock shopping when I'm at the local tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 12, 2022, 02:22:59 PM
Soooo…the finger sock things. Look gross, initially feel disgusting. Like glasses for your feet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on June 12, 2022, 03:14:30 PM
I wear suit socks, those knee high but fine socks that look a bit like stockings.  :-[
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on June 12, 2022, 03:27:12 PM
It’s possibly the compression factor that makes your feet and legs less sore

Side note: Once you go all in on wool hiking socks you’ll never go back to cotton or synthetic blends. I’ve got them in varying thicknesses. The thin ones for super hot days. Regular thickness for average days. They’re relatively expensive for socks, but not much more than a pair of Stance socks. My brand of choice is Darn Tough

Other side note: if you live in a cold climate get a smart wool base layer and a “cheap” REI down jacket. You’ll have an easier time staying warm without a bunch of bulky layers hindering your skating. Pair that with some wool socks and you’ll be having a better time than your friends struggling with cotton socks and regular long johns
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 12, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
No..it’s not placebo at all, you line up one of those basketball socks…there’s no contest.  That said I can’t skate them…I can’t feel my board, but no doubt there is lots of cushioning and it makes a difference….like cup vs.  vulc.

On Indy’s to ace?  Flat washer, conical bushings…..different geo but it’ll be getting as much turn as possible out of them…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 12, 2022, 04:50:37 PM
Soooo…the finger sock things. Look gross, initially feel disgusting. Like glasses for your feet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlbARlVyRAc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 12, 2022, 06:33:30 PM
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Soooo…the finger sock things. Look gross, initially feel disgusting. Like glasses for your feet.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlbARlVyRAc


The socks that have separate toe accommodations, for me, enhanced my perception of foot to board connectivity. I’ve had some really good days skating in them. That being said, can’t do it on the regular, mainly because they look weird.

I skate in smart wool socks, most often, but would just like to piggyback what Tom said.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: greenreese on June 13, 2022, 07:39:02 AM
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pretty niche question but here goes...do the Adidas Puigs fit/skate similarly to the Copa Nationales? I love skating the Copas after they've broken in, and I enjoy the look of the Puigs. very curious.
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Puigs have a little more wiggle room up front and a better heel lock-in. The Copa and the Tyshawn seem to have tighter toe boxes than most of the other recent models, and the Copa heel is pretty low. I had a bit of slip when I started wearing those. Still love them, though.

I should also mention that the Copas I had were the leather ones with the suede toe cap and serrated stripes (the ones that look like the Copa soccer cleat).

(https://i.ibb.co/2hwTFxM/213-AD86-D-BBEC-4-B6-D-A8-B2-5-BD1-A1-EB8431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hwTFxM)
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this is super helpful, thank you! also the answer I wanted to hear, I have kind of wider feet so the Copas were tight at first but great once broken in. good to know! now to cop some shoes that I definitely don't need right now haha.

How long do they take to break in?  I've got a pair of the white leather ones and they hurt my feet to skate and are pretty broken in.  I ordered a pair of suede ones thinking maybe they would stretch a bit easier, but they also kinda hurt.  I've tried the 3ST004s and Tyshawns and those both hurt as well.  Busenitz are the only ones that feel like butter from beginning to end, but I'm looking for a shoe that lasts longer in the ollie area and maybe has a sole stiffer than cheese. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 13, 2022, 02:50:25 PM
What’s the best dunk substitute? Just started skating some, for the first time in forever, great for skating (weird for wearing, doesn’t fit my old guy ‘vibes’). Obviously I’m not going to get anymore, anytime soon, and AJ1s are also super hard to find…so fastbreaks? Tiagos? Ishod’s? What’s my slim thick cupsole?
(I know this question has been asked a bazillion times, and I just end up forgetting the answers, and kinda zoning out on the convo’s cuz I forgot how comfy/decent the flick is).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on June 13, 2022, 05:27:54 PM
Has anyone tried the Neen Footprint shoe? I see that they are on sale and Im tempted to try them out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 13, 2022, 05:57:28 PM
What’s the best dunk substitute? Just started skating some, for the first time in forever, great for skating (weird for wearing, doesn’t fit my old guy ‘vibes’). Obviously I’m not going to get anymore, anytime soon, and AJ1s are also super hard to find…so fastbreaks? Tiagos? Ishod’s? What’s my slim thick cupsole?
(I know this question has been asked a bazillion times, and I just end up forgetting the answers, and kinda zoning out on the convo’s cuz I forgot how comfy/decent the flick is).

Lakai Telfords? Replace the Nike Swoosh with the Lakai logo on the side and bam. Kyonosuke was wearing them in his Primitive part and they looked great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 13, 2022, 07:07:26 PM
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What’s the best dunk substitute? Just started skating some, for the first time in forever, great for skating (weird for wearing, doesn’t fit my old guy ‘vibes’). Obviously I’m not going to get anymore, anytime soon, and AJ1s are also super hard to find…so fastbreaks? Tiagos? Ishod’s? What’s my slim thick cupsole?
(I know this question has been asked a bazillion times, and I just end up forgetting the answers, and kinda zoning out on the convo’s cuz I forgot how comfy/decent the flick is).
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Lakai Telfords? Replace the Nike Swoosh with the Lakai logo on the side and bam. Kyonosuke was wearing them in his Primitive part and they looked great.

Ha. I’ll give em a shot!
Aesthetically, I like LRAB. Nikes fit me, have pretty much always been tts, and ‘just work’. But…I’d rather not.
If the Lakais are decent I’ll definitely give ‘em a shot. I like the look of Simon’s shoe. The last Lakais I had were the proto and they were…ok. At best.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 13, 2022, 07:38:55 PM
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Ok so I'm not fucking insane- this anti hero has a 6.875 tail vs 6.625 and 7.25 nose vs 7.0625 on the Baker. I measured with the concave for both as this takes into account the steepness, but even measuring straight across they're different. The Baker ends up at 32 on the dot vs the Anti Hero at 32.25 (straight across).
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I prefer, by quite a bit, boards 32 or less. Out of length, width, wb…length (once thought to be the least relevant) is the least fungible.
Dlx shapes have been too long, full, and steep for me…unless in skating an 8ish bird and then whatever works.
I’ve loved baker boards in the past, like few others. I swear the wood/molds are slightly different, but knowledgeable persons that I believe have the correct info assure me I am incorrect. I had some conspiracy theories about generator, bbs, generator-bbs…but yeah. Gibberish On my part. I’ve tried to not go down the tail length rabbit hole, but it’s difficult for me to ignore that tail lengths greater than 6.6 are pretty much out for me. 6.5 is better. Nose doesn’t need to be over 7, prefer less. This may be why I’ve started to like longer wb’s, but total lengths up to 32: shorter lengths for nose and tail. All I know is I don’t know shit.
But I’d rather ride a baker than a dlx


I think at the end of the day, there is always going to be some difference between boards, even between two 8.38 eagles, I noticed slight differences in length, width, concave and kicks, but that is what happens with boards that might be made in the same place, but on different presses or even different places in a press, but the same shape is cut with computer automation, then human hand sanded maybe some more or some less, etc.  It has been said before the DLX boards have dedicated presses, but who knows.  They definitely have different wood stain layups compared to other brands, so when they do them in bulk there will be separate processes right there.

Bolting four different brands together through the deck bolt holes in a stack, they were all the same size, shape, etc but that is not to say that this lot is the same as another lot of boards produced another time from the same location.  Trying to take pics didn't really show enough or were clear with things, back when I did it with 8.5 boards and then with 8.38 boards.  I used a Baker, DLX, Element and Birdhouse, then swapped them around with a couple of DLX at either end, just to mix and match.

Any which way I know with having so many of the same boards set up at the same time, each one feels a bit different, some more stiff, others more flexible, along with all the other variables as mentioned so I am used to that side of things.

I guess that is where companies like Dwindle whose product is so much more uniform are leading the quality control game, but I know I can't deal with the concave and feel of those boards, whereas others will only ride them, given every board feels exactly the same.


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I went and found seven of the 8.38 decks including Baker, Birdhouse, Element, Organica (Kayo / DGK era), Antihero, Real and Krooked so here is the pic from them all standing together, give or take less than a few mm all up, but really all the same.

NOTE: Although these are all within 1 to 2 mm, even just a .25" is not that much, only about 6 mm so they are still all around their listed lengths anyway, the average being about 32.2 all up, some at 32 even, some at 32.12 and others at 32.25 total length.


Again not doubting other boards are different, especially given only the DLX boards in this lot are from this year, all the rest from a while ago.


(https://i.ibb.co/n6wY3Rf/Board-Comparison-8-38.jpg) (https://ibb.co/170PsbK)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 13, 2022, 08:42:43 PM
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How do I become an actor? Should I get a manager or an agent?

How does one even find out where to try out for roles?

I know I’m always going to be a bad guy or a homeless person so I can deal with it.

I can sing I’m a pretty good dancer. I can switch flip sometimes so that’s kinda cool.

I can cry on command. Get shaking and foaming at the mouth angry first try.

I can play 9 instruments. I can paint a mural.

I can’t swim tho.

What would you do pal? I wanna work in pictures
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If you’re looking for gigs sign up for mandy.com or check your states (or nearby large city’s) film office for listings. Doing student films in a local university is a good way to build up a demo reel. There’s a lot you can do in your area, unless you live in Alaska or some shit lol, that won’t require you to pack up and move to LA or NY since you’re just starting out. Don’t worry about agents or managers yet- just start small and focus on getting a solid resume with a good bit of variety… then comes the fun in joining SAG lol best of luck to you. Some great advice I heard once is that “acting is the humiliating… once you accept that, you can do anything” Kill the ego and lose yourself etc


Thanks I appreciate. Ima try to follow this advice.


I should not have bailed on ghost busters the remake. I just got hip to the blasphemers plot to make a sucker flick. Decided that my jackets were too good for their fake concert footage.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 13, 2022, 09:11:13 PM
Has anyone tried the Neen Footprint shoe? I see that they are on sale and Im tempted to try them out.

If you get them come back with a review. I was definitely curious about them. Seems sort of gimmicky but if it works it works
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on June 13, 2022, 09:17:21 PM
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What’s the best dunk substitute? Just started skating some, for the first time in forever, great for skating (weird for wearing, doesn’t fit my old guy ‘vibes’). Obviously I’m not going to get anymore, anytime soon, and AJ1s are also super hard to find…so fastbreaks? Tiagos? Ishod’s? What’s my slim thick cupsole?
(I know this question has been asked a bazillion times, and I just end up forgetting the answers, and kinda zoning out on the convo’s cuz I forgot how comfy/decent the flick is).
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Lakai Telfords? Replace the Nike Swoosh with the Lakai logo on the side and bam. Kyonosuke was wearing them in his Primitive part and they looked great.
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Ha. I’ll give em a shot!
Aesthetically, I like LRAB. Nikes fit me, have pretty much always been tts, and ‘just work’. But…I’d rather not.
If the Lakais are decent I’ll definitely give ‘em a shot. I like the look of Simon’s shoe. The last Lakais I had were the proto and they were…ok. At best.

Love my Telfords and they come in a high and a low. Some people don't like that the sole is thin but, but I like it because the board feel is great right out of the box. And I don't really jump down anything big so that doesn't bother me at all. Just a heads up though it looks like they are changing the sole on them to the same one as the atlantic for the ones coming out at the end of this year/beginning of next. Given the catalogs I've seen it looks like they're going to be sticking with that sole going forward. But maybe they'll make both? I don't know. Current sole vs upcoming below.

(https://i.ibb.co/0Zn7qp2/Screenshot-2022-06-14-001332.png) (https://ibb.co/0Zn7qp2)

(https://i.ibb.co/Hd0WZYZ/Screenshot-2022-06-14-001243.png) (https://ibb.co/Hd0WZYZ)

(https://i.ibb.co/SdDt7Sb/Screenshot-2022-06-14-001023.png) (https://ibb.co/SdDt7Sb)

(https://i.ibb.co/10N5NdY/Screenshot-2022-06-14-000947.png) (https://ibb.co/10N5NdY)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 13, 2022, 11:59:33 PM
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Has anyone tried the Neen Footprint shoe? I see that they are on sale and Im tempted to try them out.
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If you get them come back with a review. I was definitely curious about them. Seems sort of gimmicky but if it works it works

From the friends who have ridden them - cushion and impact protection is great especially if you have a regular foot shape. If you have flat feet (collapsed arch), the arch support is insufficient.

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What’s the best dunk substitute? Just started skating some, for the first time in forever, great for skating (weird for wearing, doesn’t fit my old guy ‘vibes’). Obviously I’m not going to get anymore, anytime soon, and AJ1s are also super hard to find…so fastbreaks? Tiagos? Ishod’s? What’s my slim thick cupsole?
(I know this question has been asked a bazillion times, and I just end up forgetting the answers, and kinda zoning out on the convo’s cuz I forgot how comfy/decent the flick is).
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Lakai Telfords? Replace the Nike Swoosh with the Lakai logo on the side and bam. Kyonosuke was wearing them in his Primitive part and they looked great.
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Ha. I’ll give em a shot!
Aesthetically, I like LRAB. Nikes fit me, have pretty much always been tts, and ‘just work’. But…I’d rather not.
If the Lakais are decent I’ll definitely give ‘em a shot. I like the look of Simon’s shoe. The last Lakais I had were the proto and they were…ok. At best.
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Love my Telfords and they come in a high and a low. Some people don't like that the sole is thin but, but I like it because the board feel is great right out of the box. And I don't really jump down anything big so that doesn't bother me at all. Just a heads up though it looks like they are changing the sole on them to the same one as the atlantic for the ones coming out at the end of this year/beginning of next. Given the catalogs I've seen it looks like they're going to be sticking with that sole going forward. But maybe they'll make both? I don't know. Current sole vs upcoming below.

(https://i.ibb.co/SdDt7Sb/Screenshot-2022-06-14-001023.png) (https://ibb.co/SdDt7Sb)


Damn the yellow and black ones are looking hot!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on June 14, 2022, 12:41:27 AM
Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 14, 2022, 12:48:08 AM
Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
Kreper
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Knee Pain on June 14, 2022, 12:51:12 AM
Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/files/kreper_ccs.jpg?v=1640125579)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on June 14, 2022, 12:51:58 AM
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Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
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Kreper

Thank you!! I found it at the same time as you by digging through an Internet Archive of a 2001 CCS magazine haha!

Here is a pic I found online if anyone is curious: (https://thumbor.offerup.com/M-xNkGs91ULu7pLiJcFtOSk-cOE=/250x444/b717/b717c0a093ad4e23915e9fea88093d7e.jpg)

That's been driving me crazy for years! I appreciate it.

Did anyone skate them? How were they? Was it purely aesthetic, or did it make mallgrabbing easier/more comfortable?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on June 14, 2022, 12:53:03 AM
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Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/files/kreper_ccs.jpg?v=1640125579)

LOL, omg that is the EXACT CCS listing I found (but the upload I found was worse resolution). Thanks a ton guys, I don't know why I didn't ask earlier considering I got two instant responses. I appreciate it.

EDIT:  I just noticed the glow in the dark part.

Someone needs to put together the ultimate night board. Glow in the dark Spitfires, Krepers, hardware (I had some, not sure what brand).... Just found this video of glowing griptape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSaKoN1h9g

And the cherry on top? Pop a tail devil on that shit.

What skate company is going to have the BALLS to do it, at least ironically? Bronze 56k? Quasi? Who's going to do it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 14, 2022, 01:06:25 AM
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Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
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Kreper
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Thank you!! I found it at the same time as you by digging through an Internet Archive of a 2001 CCS magazine haha!

Here is a pic I found online if anyone is curious: (https://thumbor.offerup.com/M-xNkGs91ULu7pLiJcFtOSk-cOE=/250x444/b717/b717c0a093ad4e23915e9fea88093d7e.jpg)

That's been driving me crazy for years! I appreciate it.

Did anyone skate them? How were they? Was it purely aesthetic, or did it make mallgrabbing easier/more comfortable?
Yeah basically just aesthetic a friend had them and they were just grind king's. Really wobbly even if done up tight. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on June 14, 2022, 04:35:40 AM
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Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/files/kreper_ccs.jpg?v=1640125579)
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LOL, omg that is the EXACT CCS listing I found (but the upload I found was worse resolution). Thanks a ton guys, I don't know why I didn't ask earlier considering I got two instant responses. I appreciate it.

EDIT:  I just noticed the glow in the dark part.

Someone needs to put together the ultimate night board. Glow in the dark Spitfires, Krepers, hardware (I had some, not sure what brand).... Just found this video of glowing griptape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSaKoN1h9g

And the cherry on top? Pop a tail devil on that shit.

What skate company is going to have the BALLS to do it, at least ironically? Bronze 56k? Quasi? Who's going to do it?

I have glow in the dark Spitfires and a glow in the dark Real Ishod 8.5” twin tail still in the stack. Not looking to part with either but I wouldn’t mind some glow in the dark Krepers!  ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on June 15, 2022, 07:06:01 AM
I have some Bones Swiss that won’t roll. I tried taking out the shield and cleaning them but nothing really. Do I need to buy the cleaning kit? Or just keep the shields off and eventually the dirt and rocks will fall out?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 15, 2022, 07:27:48 AM
Easiest way to clean a bearing is pop the shields and leave them in the wheel. Spray some isopropyl alcohol (the higher the % the better in) and spin the wheel. If it feels gritty, wipe with an old t shirt or lint free cloth and repeat until it feels more or less smooth. Don't be afraid to get it fairly wet. If you're using 99% it's mostly alcohol and will evaporate. Once it feels smooth wipe any extra off and put a single drop of lube in and keep spinning that fucker. Wipe and clean the shields and pop back on.


You don't need a bearing cleaning kit. I've never found that shaking the bearing around in a bottle does anything. You need to bring the junk from inside to the surface and get it off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 15, 2022, 08:34:15 AM
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pretty niche question but here goes...do the Adidas Puigs fit/skate similarly to the Copa Nationales? I love skating the Copas after they've broken in, and I enjoy the look of the Puigs. very curious.
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Puigs have a little more wiggle room up front and a better heel lock-in. The Copa and the Tyshawn seem to have tighter toe boxes than most of the other recent models, and the Copa heel is pretty low. I had a bit of slip when I started wearing those. Still love them, though.

I should also mention that the Copas I had were the leather ones with the suede toe cap and serrated stripes (the ones that look like the Copa soccer cleat).

(https://i.ibb.co/2hwTFxM/213-AD86-D-BBEC-4-B6-D-A8-B2-5-BD1-A1-EB8431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hwTFxM)
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this is super helpful, thank you! also the answer I wanted to hear, I have kind of wider feet so the Copas were tight at first but great once broken in. good to know! now to cop some shoes that I definitely don't need right now haha.
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How long do they take to break in?  I've got a pair of the white leather ones and they hurt my feet to skate and are pretty broken in.  I ordered a pair of suede ones thinking maybe they would stretch a bit easier, but they also kinda hurt.  I've tried the 3ST004s and Tyshawns and those both hurt as well.  Busenitz are the only ones that feel like butter from beginning to end, but I'm looking for a shoe that lasts longer in the ollie area and maybe has a sole stiffer than cheese.

I mean, the heel stopped slipping after a few wears, but mine felt pretty nice out of the box. I think they’re just a very snug-fitting, supportive shoe since they’re so closely derived from an indoor soccer style.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 17, 2022, 04:32:07 AM
Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pdknox on June 17, 2022, 06:03:50 AM
are sling bags hype/gimmicks or is there real utility there? (when compared to a backpack)

are waist bags better?  growing up these were relics of the 80s that no one wore anymore

are they so 2017?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 17, 2022, 06:07:47 AM
are sling bags hype/gimmicks or is there real utility there? (when compared to a backpack)

are they so 2017?

Probably a bit of both. I can imagine them being nice if you're trying to travel light around a city skating all day. I always sweat about putting my backpack/camera bag down so i can skate when im in the city.

But they're also in trend and rappers wear them, so there's that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 17, 2022, 06:35:24 AM
Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.

Anything long with a point. I use a small metal file, gently wedge the point down into the side of the cup, and sorta lift/pry it up at the same time. Never had trouble. They usually pop all the way out with one or two tries.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 17, 2022, 06:41:36 AM
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Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.
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Anything long with a point. I use a small metal file, gently wedge the point down into the side of the cup, and sorta lift/pry it up at the same time. Never had trouble. They usually pop all the way out with one or two tries.

Yea, i guess i just need something thinner
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on June 17, 2022, 06:54:32 AM
Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.

I try to surgically grab the inside of top edge of the pivot cup with needle-nose pliers.  It’s usually pretty successful.  Sometimes the pivot cup gets a little messed up but the baseplate is scratch-free.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 17, 2022, 07:08:39 AM
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Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.
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I try to surgically grab the inside of top edge of the pivot cup with needle-nose pliers.  It’s usually pretty successful.  Sometimes the pivot cup gets a little messed up but the baseplate is scratch-free.

I'm sure some better pliers would help too, but i swear even when i get a good grip on it, i have to pull it like 20 times.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on June 17, 2022, 07:22:13 AM
Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.

If you don't care about the pivot cup you're taking out you can cut it (even cut it in half if you're lucky)with an exacto knife then pretty easy to get out with pliers
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 17, 2022, 08:06:02 AM
are sling bags hype/gimmicks or is there real utility there? (when compared to a backpack)

are waist bags better?  growing up these were relics of the 80s that no one wore anymore

are they so 2017?

i don't like carrying a backpack and I have a bunch of fanny packs/sling bags from cycling. they're definitely my go to if i'm skating around and need to carry some stuff. I have the Chrome Cardiel Shank and i bring it with me on every trip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 17, 2022, 05:45:53 PM
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Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.
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I try to surgically grab the inside of top edge of the pivot cup with needle-nose pliers.  It’s usually pretty successful.  Sometimes the pivot cup gets a little messed up but the baseplate is scratch-free.
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I'm sure some better pliers would help too, but i swear even when i get a good grip on it, i have to pull it like 20 times.


The needle nosed pliers or even a smaller flat head screwdriver is my usual go to.

Jam one arm of the pliers (or the screwdriver) in about 3/4 of the way up the side of the pivot cup so that it goes into the material and lever it up enough to get the pliers to get a firm grip on the top lip of it.  I have had some come apart, but for the most part the stock ones and even some really snug after market pivot cups usually come out easily enough.


@Mean salto  Never had to cut it up to get it out but that is a good idea if the thing is stuck in there.  Guessing if you want it out, you are not about to put it back in anything.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on June 17, 2022, 11:54:14 PM
If you want it out because it’s done for, I’ve found that it’s quite easy to get out with a wine bottle opener/corkscrew. Just stick that inside the pivot cup bushing and pry it out. No need to touch the baseplate at all so minimal chance of fucking up the baseplate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on June 18, 2022, 01:35:59 AM
Anyone else feel that its way easier to do/land flip tricks on low trucks?

At first I used to skate taller trucks, and really struggled with flip tricks. Then, the peak of my flip trick ability came once I switched to Venture Lows. It was sort of an epiphany. Then I started skating Indy Standards Highs I basically stopped being able to do as many flip tricks again.

I don't plan on switching back to lows (I love skating Aces with 56mm wheels too much), but I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on June 18, 2022, 03:07:07 AM
Anyone else feel that its way easier to do/land flip tricks on low trucks?

At first I used to skate taller trucks, and really struggled with flip tricks. Then, the peak of my flip trick ability came once I switched to Venture Lows. It was sort of an epiphany. Then I started skating Indy Standards Highs I basically stopped being able to do as many flip tricks again.

I don't plan on switching back to lows (I love skating Aces with 56mm wheels too much), but I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience?

No, but now I want to try low trucks.  :D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on June 18, 2022, 04:05:13 AM
Anyone else feel that its way easier to do/land flip tricks on low trucks?

At first I used to skate taller trucks, and really struggled with flip tricks. Then, the peak of my flip trick ability came once I switched to Venture Lows. It was sort of an epiphany. Then I started skating Indy Standards Highs I basically stopped being able to do as many flip tricks again.

I don't plan on switching back to lows (I love skating Aces with 56mm wheels too much), but I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience?
The low trucks definitely help me for the flip tricks, and if i want to go tech on a high 55 mm truck i need mellow kicks and kind of small wheels. Now i mostly use my high (film) trucks for a cruiser and do enjoy the mid height of the new royals for all around skating. This year's black friday might be a good time to get a new pair of low trucks, but still haven't decided if i should continue the game on the good old venture lows or to try thunder 147 (coz have i never had a pair of thunder before).
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Post by: Mean salto on June 18, 2022, 04:30:30 AM
If you want the real flip trick "hack" go low trucks but also trucks thinner than board. 8.5 board with 7.75 trucks is a flip machine. Also good for slappys, ok for manuals but not a whole lot else
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Post by: Musicaldeath107 on June 18, 2022, 08:27:47 AM
If you want the real flip trick "hack" go low trucks but also trucks thinner than board. 8.5 board with 7.75 trucks is a flip machine. Also good for slappys, ok for manuals but not a whole lot else

You can also pull the old Rodney Mullen trick and put some lead shot or ball bearings in the hollow cavity in the baseplate of your trucks.  This pulls the center of gravity more towards the center of the board and it will definitely flip faster.  Plus they would in theory keep the board more steady when landing hard like a dead blow hammer as well.
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Post by: j....soy..... on June 18, 2022, 08:30:37 AM
Don’t forget to tape your fingers!
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Post by: Sativa Lung on June 18, 2022, 11:57:11 AM
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Does anyone remember the trucks that were shaped like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/qLf2lTw.png)

They were kind of spikey, but rounded in between the spikes like it was meant for your fingers to grab them? I think they had 1 or 2 less spikes and more space for your fingers than I drew here.

They either looked like this, or had a red baseplate, I can't remember.

I remember someone I knew had these trucks and I thought they were so cool looking, but in retrospect, I bet they are awful for many different grinds.

Can anyone remember the brand or model name? For some reason Creature (or something along those lines... Monster? Viscera? No idea.) is coming to mind, but I can't find any evidence of them on the internet at the moment.

Anyone have any leads? Does anyone else even remember these (early 2000s)?
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/files/kreper_ccs.jpg?v=1640125579)
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LOL, omg that is the EXACT CCS listing I found (but the upload I found was worse resolution). Thanks a ton guys, I don't know why I didn't ask earlier considering I got two instant responses. I appreciate it.

EDIT:  I just noticed the glow in the dark part.

Someone needs to put together the ultimate night board. Glow in the dark Spitfires, Krepers, hardware (I had some, not sure what brand).... Just found this video of glowing griptape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSaKoN1h9g

And the cherry on top? Pop a tail devil on that shit.

What skate company is going to have the BALLS to do it, at least ironically? Bronze 56k? Quasi? Who's going to do it?
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I have glow in the dark Spitfires and a glow in the dark Real Ishod 8.5” twin tail still in the stack. Not looking to part with either but I wouldn’t mind some glow in the dark Krepers!  ;)

So I actually had the idea for a glow in the dark setup a few years ago and I could pull it off if someone knows of a good glow graphic. The only ones available at the time I was putting it together were the real ones with like starscapes and shit and they kinda sucked. I have a set of krepers but not glow ones... They're brand new but the paint is chipped in a few spots. If anyone wants to buy them to skate I'll sell them but beware they're a collectible these days and aren't cheap. Anyways, back to the glow board... I have

-51mm snot conicals or 53mm F4 glow swirl conical fulls
- Thunder 148 with glow bushings
- a dozen or so spitfire glow stickers
- multiple types of glow grip
- bearing shields I painted with a glow pen

The biggest issue is that glow stuff needs to absorb a lot of light and the bottom of your skateboard is usually in shade so you don't get a very long or bright glow. It does look kinda cool at night but it's more subtle than you might think. It's not going to illuminate anything or leave tracers when you do 3 flips like the LED wheels you sometimes see the raver kids skating.
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Post by: Plan9Customs on June 18, 2022, 05:30:10 PM
IIRC glow in the dark stuff looks great under a black light(was on shrooms decades ago so who knows for sure) and should give it enough contrast/light/dark to have it pop.
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Post by: whale on June 20, 2022, 01:40:41 AM
Anyone else feel that its way easier to do/land flip tricks on low trucks?

At first I used to skate taller trucks, and really struggled with flip tricks. Then, the peak of my flip trick ability came once I switched to Venture Lows. It was sort of an epiphany. Then I started skating Indy Standards Highs I basically stopped being able to do as many flip tricks again.

I don't plan on switching back to lows (I love skating Aces with 56mm wheels too much), but I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience?
I tried Venture lows a few years back, great for flips but didn’t like the stretched wb, went back to Ace.
Kinda wanna try Ace lows but have since gone up in wheel size and I get pretty bad wheelbite as is
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Post by: Easy Slider on June 20, 2022, 02:27:03 AM
Is there a way to make new Dickies soft other than washing them 1000 times?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 20, 2022, 02:51:21 AM
Is there a way to make new Dickies soft other than washing them 1000 times?


Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.

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Post by: Easy Slider on June 20, 2022, 01:23:39 PM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.

Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 20, 2022, 04:13:52 PM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?

Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.
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Post by: Idk on June 20, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
Just wash them before wearing on warm water then dry them with 2 fabric softeners.
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Post by: SaySo on June 20, 2022, 09:38:06 PM
Does anyone have a good/easy way to remove pivot cups without scratching your baseplates up? I usually use some combo of a screwdriver and pliers to get them out, but I always end up scratching up my baseplates a bit and it takes a while. Pry some, pull some, pry some, pull some.
I always use a truck axel. Usually they fit into the pivot cup and the threads provide some friction to help "grip" onto the insides of the pivot cups. Helps to avoid mangling the pivot cup and minimizes other issues.

I suppose a similarly sized bolt might work as well.

EDIT: Misspelled "axle." FFS. W. Axl Rose.
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Post by: Easy Slider on June 20, 2022, 10:44:11 PM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.

That‘s hilarious. Were they using new or used wheels? What‘s the effect of washing them  on the wheels?
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Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2022, 10:48:21 PM
Is Alison Rosendo gods gift to skateboarding
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Post by: rocklobster on June 20, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.
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That‘s hilarious. Were they using new or used wheels? What‘s the effect of washing them  on the wheels?

Real skaters put trucks into their washing machines to wear in their pants / shoes.
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Post by: Roisto on June 20, 2022, 11:47:24 PM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.
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That‘s hilarious. Were they using new or used wheels? What‘s the effect of washing them  on the wheels?

I had a pair of Analog wheel wash jeans. They were washed with old skateboard wheels in the factory. They were really soft and pleasant. Maybe my favorite pair of pants I’ve had. So maybe there’s something to it.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 21, 2022, 04:49:33 AM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.
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That‘s hilarious. Were they using new or used wheels? What‘s the effect of washing them  on the wheels?
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I had a pair of Analog wheel wash jeans. They were washed with old skateboard wheels in the factory. They were really soft and pleasant. Maybe my favorite pair of pants I’ve had. So maybe there’s something to it.


Yeah, I think I had a pair for a minute too back when they were out and I was trying out a lot of different pants.

I think the official line was it naturally breaks down the fibres in the jeans or something similar, but realistically it beats the absolute crap out of them in one wash so much more than you could ever do in a hundred wear and normal washes.

It reminds me of getting some of those pre washed Dickies 874s too, when they were around for a minute.  "Rinsed" was the term, but they had definitely been through the wringer and were super soft right from go.

The normal ones would have 874CH on the tag for 874 Charcoal, but the rinsed versions had 874RCH...


Edit:  Sorry, probably too much information.

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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 21, 2022, 07:35:04 AM
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Leaving them in as hot a tub to soak with fabric softener is the most common one I have heard, if you want to try to fast track the softening.

I used to just keep brand new ones for work (not for skating right away) and put them in the wash any time I did a load of washing, even if I had not worn them to ease into it, but some softened up a lot faster than others too.

After other people had suggested it, I went a size up in the 874 pants and put a belt on permanently, I feel like they got a whole lot easier to wear right from first day, but that doesn't really help you right now.
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Cheers mate. I took them for a session and while stiff they felt good to skate. I told the wife to put them in the machine every time she washes so they‘ll soften up soon.

Other question: Coming from Polar 93s, skating Dickies 873s feels like skinny jeans. It makes me feel like skating differently, not worse just different. I feel like baggies are more forgiving but with slim pants you might be more in control of what happens under your feet. How do pants affect your skating?
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Throwing some tennis balls in the wash with them will help as well, but it can get noisy. I've even seen people throw skate wheels in with pants to get them softened up.

As long as I'm not restricted around my knees, I'm pretty much fine wth whatever. I have a pair of wrangler carpenters that are fairly baggy but have no stretch or taper, and they're just too hard to skate in because they pull whenever I bend down. Also, if baggies are heavy denim then the feeling of the extra weight throws me off. I had some carhartt pants that were too long so I cuffed them and it felt like wearing ankle weights.
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That‘s hilarious. Were they using new or used wheels? What‘s the effect of washing them  on the wheels?
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I had a pair of Analog wheel wash jeans. They were washed with old skateboard wheels in the factory. They were really soft and pleasant. Maybe my favorite pair of pants I’ve had. So maybe there’s something to it.

That might be exactly what I remember seeing, an analog ad in a skate mag.
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Post by: Richard Skidder on June 21, 2022, 01:43:59 PM
I typically break in Dickies during the winter time when the extra thick feeling is appreciated. By summer they’re nice and soft and breezy.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on June 21, 2022, 02:16:49 PM
What brands do kicks like Baker? Flatter, not hella short. My Sci Fi is great, but feels too steep and the Anti Hero II I had was fucking ridiculously steep. Don't like that shit.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 21, 2022, 05:14:51 PM
What brands do kicks like Baker? Flatter, not hella short. My Sci Fi is great, but feels too steep and the Anti Hero II I had was fucking ridiculously steep. Don't like that shit.

Try Passport if it is around near you, or even Magenta.

Both those are the same wood / presses and I always found them to be flatter / more mellow.

The comparable length boards have a slightly shorter wheelbase, so you have a touch longer tail too on the 8.38 when I got a few of them.

8.38 x 31.95 to 32 with about a 14.38 wb if I recall correctly.

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Post by: oak leaf on June 22, 2022, 07:07:35 AM
the only bushings that ever crack and crumble are the tops (roadside) - is that typical or am i just not doing the grinds that wreck the bottom one?

feel like im sitting on all bottom bushings
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 22, 2022, 07:49:00 AM
the only bushings that ever crack and crumble are the tops (roadside) - is that typical or am i just not doing the grinds that wreck the bottom one?

feel like im sitting on all bottom bushings


From looking over the assorted used / mismatched bushing bag, I have a whole lot more Indy bottoms than tops, then a whole lot more tops from some and bottoms from others, both Thunder and Venture (at least the ones I know were from them, colourwise or just the feel of them) so I don't really know if there is anything specific that one person would do to blow out tops or bottoms.

Are yours all the same?  Same brand / colour or anything about them to note, eg I feel like cylinder hold up better than the conical bottoms, so Thunder conical bottoms end up more blown out than others, but Indy tops blow out more than the Indy bottoms.

That is just with this lot anyway, which is maybe fifty bushings all up - too many to hold in both hands, which is why they are all in a bag.


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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 22, 2022, 08:48:54 AM
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the only bushings that ever crack and crumble are the tops (roadside) - is that typical or am i just not doing the grinds that wreck the bottom one?

feel like im sitting on all bottom bushings
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From looking over the assorted used / mismatched bushing bag, I have a whole lot more Indy bottoms than tops, then a whole lot more tops from some and bottoms from others, both Thunder and Venture (at least the ones I know were from them, colourwise or just the feel of them) so I don't really know if there is anything specific that one person would do to blow out tops or bottoms.

Are yours all the same?  Same brand / colour or anything about them to note, eg I feel like cylinder hold up better than the conical bottoms, so Thunder conical bottoms end up more blown out than others, but Indy tops blow out more than the Indy bottoms.

That is just with this lot anyway, which is maybe fifty bushings all up - too many to hold in both hands, which is why they are all in a bag.

I definitely seem to be harder on top (roadside) bushings, they crumble pretty quick for me, especially harder duro bushings. This is pretty consistent between indy (stock and aftermarket), thunder, and doh dohs.
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Post by: oak leaf on June 22, 2022, 09:55:21 AM
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the only bushings that ever crack and crumble are the tops (roadside) - is that typical or am i just not doing the grinds that wreck the bottom one?

feel like im sitting on all bottom bushings
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From looking over the assorted used / mismatched bushing bag, I have a whole lot more Indy bottoms than tops, then a whole lot more tops from some and bottoms from others, both Thunder and Venture (at least the ones I know were from them, colourwise or just the feel of them) so I don't really know if there is anything specific that one person would do to blow out tops or bottoms.

Are yours all the same?  Same brand / colour or anything about them to note, eg I feel like cylinder hold up better than the conical bottoms, so Thunder conical bottoms end up more blown out than others, but Indy tops blow out more than the Indy bottoms.

That is just with this lot anyway, which is maybe fifty bushings all up - too many to hold in both hands, which is why they are all in a bag.

Yeah all mine are the same- venture stock bushings. I like the way they skate just fine, but having to buy two little pieces of plastic each time one bushing fails makes me anxious about the ocean lol. Would like it if my plastic pieces failed symmetrically so i felt like i wasnt wasting shit
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Post by: Murge on June 25, 2022, 07:56:25 AM
Salba saucing a rough ledge. I rub bricked it and did a coat of clear gloss enamel. Going back to do a second coat hopefully later today. But the other can I have is clear matte enamel. Will this matter? Will the matte make it sticky or less slide-y? I’m gonna wax it after the enamel. So will the matte affect it? Didn’t do the best rub bricking cause I was in a hurry cause it’s kinda open spot and it was like 102 yesterday

I just accidentally grabbed a gloss and a matte instead of 2 glosses. 
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Post by: whale on June 25, 2022, 07:57:36 AM
Salba saucing a rough ledge. I rub bricked it and did a coat of clear gloss enamel. Going back to do a second coat hopefully later today. But the other can I have is clear matte enamel. Will this matter? Will the matte make it sticky or less slide-y? I’m gonna wax it after the enamel. So will the matte affect it? Didn’t do the best rub bricking cause I was in a hurry cause it’s kinda open spot and it was like 102 yesterday

I just accidentally grabbed a gloss and a matte instead of 2 glosses.
I don’t reckon it matters one bit
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Post by: Murge on June 25, 2022, 08:08:53 AM
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Salba saucing a rough ledge. I rub bricked it and did a coat of clear gloss enamel. Going back to do a second coat hopefully later today. But the other can I have is clear matte enamel. Will this matter? Will the matte make it sticky or less slide-y? I’m gonna wax it after the enamel. So will the matte affect it? Didn’t do the best rub bricking cause I was in a hurry cause it’s kinda open spot and it was like 102 yesterday

I just accidentally grabbed a gloss and a matte instead of 2 glosses.
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I don’t reckon it matters one bit

Awesome thank you!
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Post by: LebowskisRug on June 25, 2022, 08:16:46 AM
It won't matter. The enamel acts as a surface sealant so wax doesn't absorb and melt into the concrete air voids if there are any. It 100% doesn't matter after you get the thing seasoned a bit.
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Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 25, 2022, 01:02:46 PM
Before I buy a leaf blower.
Does anyone know of a broom like that one scum co made that disassembles into small pieces to carry easily?
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Post by: Plan9Customs on June 25, 2022, 01:39:51 PM
You can get stuff like this at pretty much any home improvement store.
https://www.amazon.com/Bates-Extension-Telescoping-Extendable-Painters/dp/B07DHW1ZXC/ref=asc_df_B07DHW1ZXC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16628085409968708835&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032622&hvtargid=pla-569646549039&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60204556045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309830852390&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16628085409968708835&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032622&hvtargid=pla-569646549039
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 25, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
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the only bushings that ever crack and crumble are the tops (roadside) - is that typical or am i just not doing the grinds that wreck the bottom one?

feel like im sitting on all bottom bushings
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From looking over the assorted used / mismatched bushing bag, I have a whole lot more Indy bottoms than tops, then a whole lot more tops from some and bottoms from others, both Thunder and Venture (at least the ones I know were from them, colourwise or just the feel of them) so I don't really know if there is anything specific that one person would do to blow out tops or bottoms.

Are yours all the same?  Same brand / colour or anything about them to note, eg I feel like cylinder hold up better than the conical bottoms, so Thunder conical bottoms end up more blown out than others, but Indy tops blow out more than the Indy bottoms.

That is just with this lot anyway, which is maybe fifty bushings all up - too many to hold in both hands, which is why they are all in a bag.
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Yeah all mine are the same- venture stock bushings. I like the way they skate just fine, but having to buy two little pieces of plastic each time one bushing fails makes me anxious about the ocean lol. Would like it if my plastic pieces failed symmetrically so i felt like i wasnt wasting shit



I definitely seem to be harder on top (roadside) bushings, they crumble pretty quick for me, especially harder duro bushings. This is pretty consistent between indy (stock and aftermarket), thunder, and doh dohs.


The funny thing is they used to sell individual parts of bushings here in AU, so I don't know why that stopped or if it was a one off thing from one distro that someone would always swap out stock bushings, but that would have been great to be able to order twenty or so top bushings to have as spares.

https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/venture-top-red-90a-bushing

https://www.kickpush.com.au/Venture-Truck-Co-Top-Bushing-Red-90A-x-1


The other thing I was thinking was all the conical bushings sets can be (re)used, bottoms cut up as I have done before, so buying one set of something like the aftermarket Indy conical bushings gives four tops with a little work, two normal tops and two bottoms cut off which end up about the same shape as the tops.

At least with some brands or places (like the new NFG bushings) you can buy specific parts, so just getting a few of those tops alone might be a better deal than buying full sets when you never use the rest of them.


I think it was posted as a modification with the Instagram link in the bushings thread, but someone reshapes their bushings with a drill too.  Here it is:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg3817056#msg3817056

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Landmine on June 25, 2022, 07:11:54 PM
Before I buy a leaf blower.
Does anyone know of a broom like that one scum co made that disassembles into small pieces to carry easily?

I keep this one in the car for dirt and wet shit
https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-24-in-Push-Broom-with-Built-in-Squeegee/1000622443

edit: i misread, this one doesn't break down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 25, 2022, 07:45:10 PM
This sucker no?

I have one and wish it was a couple inches smaller to fit in a pack….fits outside one easy…

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kraft-Tool-Co-60-in-Aluminum-Snap-Style-Broom-Handle-3-Piece-CC263/205323267
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on June 25, 2022, 11:24:22 PM
Now that Indy has the new forged hollow mids, does anyone know if they'll be selling the forged ikp plate seperately like standard ones?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 26, 2022, 12:41:56 AM
Now that Indy has the new forged hollow mids, does anyone know if they'll be selling the forged ikp plate seperately like standard ones?


I think someone said there was nothing on the horizon of pre books for the separate forged plates, but who knows further into the future.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on June 26, 2022, 02:23:20 AM
Now that Indy has the new forged hollow mids, does anyone know if they'll be selling the forged ikp plate seperately like standard ones?
you asked & i replied 2 weeks ago  ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on June 27, 2022, 08:06:59 AM
Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 27, 2022, 11:57:33 AM
Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)

That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on June 27, 2022, 02:08:04 PM
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Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
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That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.

Just sent them an email. Any idea how long they will take to reply and send out another board?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on June 27, 2022, 04:10:43 PM
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Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
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That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.
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Just sent them an email. Any idea how long they will take to reply and send out another board?


Did you buy it in store or online?

I would be taking it back into the place you got it, but it looks more like some bit of something got caught in the glue and ended up between the layers just before pressing, not so much an actual delamination, which is where the layers are often not glued and completely separate, but it is only one picture, so it is hard to get the full story.

As to timeframe, I would be putting on another board (if you have one) cause something like that is not going to be resolved overnight.  Could be weeks even.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on June 27, 2022, 11:16:36 PM
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Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
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That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.
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Just sent them an email. Any idea how long they will take to reply and send out another board?
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Did you buy it in store or online?

I would be taking it back into the place you got it, but it looks more like some bit of something got caught in the glue and ended up between the layers just before pressing, not so much an actual delamination, which is where the layers are often not glued and completely separate, but it is only one picture, so it is hard to get the full story.

As to timeframe, I would be putting on another board (if you have one) cause something like that is not going to be resolved overnight.  Could be weeks even.

I brought it from a shop while I was at Hamburg. I'm at paris now so I cant really head back to the shop I got it from.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on June 28, 2022, 01:11:02 AM
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Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
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That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.
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Just sent them an email. Any idea how long they will take to reply and send out another board?
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Did you buy it in store or online?

I would be taking it back into the place you got it, but it looks more like some bit of something got caught in the glue and ended up between the layers just before pressing, not so much an actual delamination, which is where the layers are often not glued and completely separate, but it is only one picture, so it is hard to get the full story.

As to timeframe, I would be putting on another board (if you have one) cause something like that is not going to be resolved overnight.  Could be weeks even.
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I brought it from a shop while I was at Hamburg. I'm at paris now so I cant really head back to the shop I got it from.


Ah yes, that is a small issue, but even with that pic, send that to the shop or to Quasi, info below.  I do wonder if that is actually going to be an issue, but you can see the extra piece of something from the close up that has been squeezed into the layers.

Was it BBS or PS Stix?  Not that it matters, but more just curious.



https://quasiskateboards.com/pages/contact-terms-shipping-privacy


Warranty Policy

Manufacturer defects are rare and are typically limited to de-laminations and mis-drilled holes. Boards broken along the edge of the truck baseplate are the most common warranty inquiry in the industry, however, those breaks are nearly always the result of normal wear and tear (e.g., you did not land bolts).

If you think your deck was faulty by cause of manufacturer error please contact us at [email protected] with the following information:

Contact information (name, address, email and phone number).
Photos of the broken deck (the more detail, the better).
Where you purchased the product (shop name, website, etc).
Photo of the deck's serial number (found on the top veneer between the front truck holes).
Any other useful information about the deck (pro model, graphic description, date purchased, etc).
Upon review we will contact you to confirm whether or not your board can be replaced under the guidelines of our warranty policy.
We are NOT responsible for any return shipping costs or fees.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on June 28, 2022, 02:53:54 AM
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Just set up a quasi board and after the first 1st day of skating it I noticed there was little gap in between the plys. Looks like a minor defect but I'm not sure if I should email quasi about it or just ride it out.

(https://i.ibb.co/b2f4DwC/20220627-203705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b2f4DwC)
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That's a whole delamination happening. Stop skating it and email them asap.
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Just sent them an email. Any idea how long they will take to reply and send out another board?
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Did you buy it in store or online?

I would be taking it back into the place you got it, but it looks more like some bit of something got caught in the glue and ended up between the layers just before pressing, not so much an actual delamination, which is where the layers are often not glued and completely separate, but it is only one picture, so it is hard to get the full story.

As to timeframe, I would be putting on another board (if you have one) cause something like that is not going to be resolved overnight.  Could be weeks even.
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I brought it from a shop while I was at Hamburg. I'm at paris now so I cant really head back to the shop I got it from.
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Ah yes, that is a small issue, but even with that pic, send that to the shop or to Quasi, info below.  I do wonder if that is actually going to be an issue, but you can see the extra piece of something from the close up that has been squeezed into the layers.

Was it BBS or PS Stix?  Not that it matters, but more just curious.



https://quasiskateboards.com/pages/contact-terms-shipping-privacy


Warranty Policy

Manufacturer defects are rare and are typically limited to de-laminations and mis-drilled holes. Boards broken along the edge of the truck baseplate are the most common warranty inquiry in the industry, however, those breaks are nearly always the result of normal wear and tear (e.g., you did not land bolts).

If you think your deck was faulty by cause of manufacturer error please contact us at [email protected] with the following information:

Contact information (name, address, email and phone number).
Photos of the broken deck (the more detail, the better).
Where you purchased the product (shop name, website, etc).
Photo of the deck's serial number (found on the top veneer between the front truck holes).
Any other useful information about the deck (pro model, graphic description, date purchased, etc).
Upon review we will contact you to confirm whether or not your board can be replaced under the guidelines of our warranty policy.
We are NOT responsible for any return shipping costs or fees.

The serial number on the top starts with ps so I assume it means it's from ps stix
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LB on June 28, 2022, 03:17:09 AM
what was that board whre it shows a family come from and thier kids have accidently shot themselves with dadiies gun/  blind? 101?
thanks in advance
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on June 28, 2022, 03:38:27 AM
what was that board whre it shows a family come from and thier kids have accidently shot themselves with dadiies gun/  blind? 101?
thanks in advance
Blind - Accidental Gun Death Slick Bottom Deck Guy Mariano
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on June 28, 2022, 05:39:35 AM
Anyone know of any Australian shops stocking the Venture loose truck conversion kit yet?

I don't even need to make them looser, I just want the green bushings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 28, 2022, 05:05:15 PM
Anyone know of any Australian shops stocking the Venture loose truck conversion kit yet?

I don't even need to make them looser, I just want the green bushings.


Most things take a while to get here, given the surface shipping from SF to BNE of the DLX products, so I would say in a few months they should be hitting shops like OCD, but I heard a couple of people I know already got some, given small light weight things don't cost that much more all up shipping from USA, but that is on them.

They even come up on ebay.com.au but it is from a US seller with what I would think is ridiculous additional costs in shipping and taxes.

Eg  bushings are around AU$12 a set, but these ones are $7 plus $20 shipping and whatever tax is added on too.


Best to wait really.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on June 28, 2022, 06:31:41 PM
Thanks mate, somehow I knew it'd be you responding to my query. Happy to wait, I'm on a set of Thunders right now anyway.

Additional question for all you Venture nerds: Would they work on Venture lows, or would it fuck with the geometry or whatever?

 I've got a set of highs that I use when I go down to an 8, but I also just bought a pair of low 5.25s because Ben Degros, nostalgia, and I got them cheap.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 28, 2022, 06:40:15 PM
Thanks mate, somehow I knew it'd be you responding to my query. Happy to wait, I'm on a set of Thunders right now anyway.

Additional question for all you Venture nerds: Would they work on Venture lows, or would it fuck with the geometry or whatever?

 I've got a set of highs that I use when I go down to an 8, but I also just bought a pair of low 5.25s because Ben Degros, nostalgia, and I got them cheap.


I had a whole bunch of old truck parts I set up recently, all narrow trucks including Venture high and low hangers which worked the same on whatever Venture baseplates I had here too, all with the same bushings in them.

The only thing I think would be good is the Venture low has so little kingpin clearance that a low head bushing would definitely make it sit better and allow more clearance, so the "loose bushing kit" would work well on there, kingpin tightened down a bit more to have normal feeling trucks with more clearance.

The few sets of Venture low trucks on board I have floating around also seem like the normal bushings, not lower bushings, even though some others had said there were specifically lower bushings for Venture low trucks, as per the Low Doh bushings, which I also have a set or two still.  Those things are lower in both top and bottom and just don't work well in normal trucks, so I would stick with the normal bottom bushing height and use the low top to get more clearance.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rattus Localis on June 28, 2022, 08:34:47 PM
^^^^
Thanks again, I love the idea of running the lows with green bushings to get the vintage vibe. Added kingpin clearance is a welcome bonus.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mick on June 29, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
Anyone ever put Ace AF1 hangers on Ace Classic baseplates?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on June 29, 2022, 11:32:43 AM
Anyone ever put Ace AF1 hangers on Ace Classic baseplates?
Yes.
In short: it works just fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on June 30, 2022, 02:08:51 AM
whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on June 30, 2022, 02:29:30 AM
whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down

I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on June 30, 2022, 07:07:46 AM
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whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
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I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
I don’t know about the quality or durability of the screen yet, but I recently picked up a Venture hoodie & I’ll tell you what I’ve learned…
First, I highly recommend swapping out the stock drawstring it comes with inside the hood. I’ve replaced mine with a Kevlar unit for abrasion resistance, and then, for weight reduction, replaced the plastic aglets on the end of the string with some titanium jawns I picked up from the local technical/tactical fabric supply. They cost a bit more but I’ve already shaved 2 mg of weight right there!
Next, I replaced the sleeves with some Thunder ones I had been sitting on. I find I get much better rotation in my reaches with this combo, and I notice a benefit whenever picking something up.
Finally, I removed the sewn in tags that my hoody came with & stitched some Riptide tags in. Definately improved the wear.

Big love to any PALS still afflicted with gear madness. ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 30, 2022, 07:33:01 AM
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whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
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I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
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I don’t know about the quality or durability of the screen yet, but I recently picked up a Venture hoodie & I’ll tell you what I’ve learned…
First, I highly recommend swapping out the stock drawstring it comes with inside the hood. I’ve replaced mine with a Kevlar unit for abrasion resistance, and then, for weight reduction, replaced the plastic aglets on the end of the string with some titanium jawns I picked up from the local technical/tactical fabric supply. They cost a bit more but I’ve already shaved 2 mg of weight right there!
Next, I replaced the sleeves with some Thunder ones I had been sitting on. I find I get much better rotation in my reaches with this combo, and I notice a benefit whenever picking something up.
Finally, I removed the sewn in tags that my hoody came with & stitched some Riptide tags in. Definately improved the wear.

Big love to any PALS still afflicted with gear madness. ;)

Stop being a princess and wear your Venture hoodie as nature intended. You're playing yourself by swapping drawstrings, anyone who rocks "The ONLY Trucks That Matter" know the stock strings work best if you give them 2 wash cycles to break in.

Edit: typo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 30, 2022, 08:17:13 AM
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whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
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I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
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I don’t know about the quality or durability of the screen yet, but I recently picked up a Venture hoodie & I’ll tell you what I’ve learned…
First, I highly recommend swapping out the stock drawstring it comes with inside the hood. I’ve replaced mine with a Kevlar unit for abrasion resistance, and then, for weight reduction, replaced the plastic aglets on the end of the string with some titanium jawns I picked up from the local technical/tactical fabric supply. They cost a bit more but I’ve already shaved 2 mg of weight right there!
Next, I replaced the sleeves with some Thunder ones I had been sitting on. I find I get much better rotation in my reaches with this combo, and I notice a benefit whenever picking something up.
Finally, I removed the sewn in tags that my hoody came with & stitched some Riptide tags in. Definately improved the wear.

Big love to any PALS still afflicted with gear madness. ;)

Have you noticed your hoody "clicking" at all?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on June 30, 2022, 11:58:32 AM
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whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
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I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
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I don’t know about the quality or durability of the screen yet, but I recently picked up a Venture hoodie & I’ll tell you what I’ve learned…
First, I highly recommend swapping out the stock drawstring it comes with inside the hood. I’ve replaced mine with a Kevlar unit for abrasion resistance, and then, for weight reduction, replaced the plastic aglets on the end of the string with some titanium jawns I picked up from the local technical/tactical fabric supply. They cost a bit more but I’ve already shaved 2 mg of weight right there!
Next, I replaced the sleeves with some Thunder ones I had been sitting on. I find I get much better rotation in my reaches with this combo, and I notice a benefit whenever picking something up.
Finally, I removed the sewn in tags that my hoody came with & stitched some Riptide tags in. Definately improved the wear.

Big love to any PALS still afflicted with gear madness. ;)

Goddamnit. Can't gnar bc already gnar'd a previous hilarious post within the previous 24 hours.

I have to ask though, how long do you like your hoodies in relation to belt line? And, how big do you like your hoods?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ol Nick on June 30, 2022, 02:13:09 PM
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whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down
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I've had my Thunder hoodie for a year, it looks new. I wash it a couple of times a month.
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I don’t know about the quality or durability of the screen yet, but I recently picked up a Venture hoodie & I’ll tell you what I’ve learned…
First, I highly recommend swapping out the stock drawstring it comes with inside the hood. I’ve replaced mine with a Kevlar unit for abrasion resistance, and then, for weight reduction, replaced the plastic aglets on the end of the string with some titanium jawns I picked up from the local technical/tactical fabric supply. They cost a bit more but I’ve already shaved 2 mg of weight right there!
Next, I replaced the sleeves with some Thunder ones I had been sitting on. I find I get much better rotation in my reaches with this combo, and I notice a benefit whenever picking something up.
Finally, I removed the sewn in tags that my hoody came with & stitched some Riptide tags in. Definately improved the wear.

Big love to any PALS still afflicted with gear madness. ;)
Good luck to you and anyone else not supergluing all the stitching right off the bat.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 30, 2022, 07:55:48 PM
whats the quality of the prints on dlx hoodies?
i usually stick with embroidery for longevity purposes
but if an eagle graphic can handle some washes im down

This is a few years old.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/992261527459614852/PXL_20220701_025217324.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/992261527677698199/PXL_20220701_025224147.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/992261527908388874/PXL_20220701_025226979.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/992261528134897704/PXL_20220701_025230412.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on July 01, 2022, 01:18:00 AM
@yourbreakfsat thanks for the pics, pretty good shape imo
antihero eagle with a lil bit of cracking *chefs kiss*

still gonna wait for the ben degros review tho ;)

@Frank and Fred i like hoodies of all shapes and sizes
obviously get more compliments when i wear a snug one
but i love drop shoulders, big hood, loose fit, xl sleeve
this is my all time favorite hoodie
(https://i.ibb.co/C57LpBK/A18183-E1-92-E6-46-BC-87-A6-2-E1-D1-D020-C79.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pvzq62j)
no skate hoodies are ever coming out in this cut
but id definitely skate a blank in this silhouette if i could find one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 01, 2022, 05:18:54 AM
Instagram questions :


When would it make sense to post a reel instead of a classic post?


And would you post horizontal or vertical videos ?




I‘m late , I know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on July 01, 2022, 09:36:43 AM
Instagram questions :


When would it make sense to post a reel instead of a classic post?


And would you post horizontal or vertical videos ?




I‘m late , I know.
I'm no expert, but I think regular posts can only be up to a minute long, while reels can be way longer. I think the instagram algorithm also has reels show up differently on people's feeds. It definitely seems like reels get more traction than posts. Like I'll constantly get random suggested reels from ig skaters and trick tips or whatever. My guess is that people post reels more now so that they can get more views on them.

And I personally like horizontal videos more because you can see more of the skating and spot, but I think vertical videos are more common because they take up more room on your feed and phone. I think the idea is that since you have to scroll more to get past a vertical post, you're more likely to stop and check it out. All those suggested skate reels that pop up on my feed that I was talking about are always vertical. This one I'm more sure about since one of my exes was big on ig years ago for her art, and I remember her explaining some of this stuff to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 01, 2022, 03:02:23 PM
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Instagram questions :


When would it make sense to post a reel instead of a classic post?


And would you post horizontal or vertical videos ?




I‘m late , I know.
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I'm no expert, but I think regular posts can only be up to a minute long, while reels can be way longer. I think the instagram algorithm also has reels show up differently on people's feeds. It definitely seems like reels get more traction than posts. Like I'll constantly get random suggested reels from ig skaters and trick tips or whatever. My guess is that people post reels more now so that they can get more views on them.

And I personally like horizontal videos more because you can see more of the skating and spot, but I think vertical videos are more common because they take up more room on your feed and phone. I think the idea is that since you have to scroll more to get past a vertical post, you're more likely to stop and check it out. All those suggested skate reels that pop up on my feed that I was talking about are always vertical. This one I'm more sure about since one of my exes was big on ig years ago for her art, and I remember her explaining some of this stuff to me.

Thx! When I check for example the death lens Instagram they only post reels. Never knew there is something like „reels“ before
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 01, 2022, 04:27:02 PM
My understanding is that, as Instagram is feeling such heavy pressure from TikTok, their algorithm heavily weights towards Reels. They definitely seem to be doing everything in their power to discourage users from posting traditional photos and videos.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 01, 2022, 05:16:28 PM
IG really isn’t wort the time anymore. The only things I bother with on it now are the stories. They flood post ‘suggested posts’ or suggested users so much you can’t even find post from people you do actually follow. I’d completely ditch it but it’s how I keep in contact with people I skate with or people out of town.
Fuck Zuckerberg. He destroyed yet another platform.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quique on July 01, 2022, 10:33:09 PM
IG really isn’t wort the time anymore. The only things I bother with on it now are the stories. They flood post ‘suggested posts’ or suggested users so much you can’t even find post from people you do actually follow. I’d completely ditch it but it’s how I keep in contact with people I skate with or people out of town.
Fuck Zuckerberg. He destroyed yet another platform.

This. I had to delete the app because of space on my memory, installed again a couple of days ago for chat purposes, can't believe how much reels and publicity the app push vs using from internet. I'm going to delete it again probably.

Back to the skate questions has anybody used the Ace rethreader? The kingpin one is what I need right now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on July 01, 2022, 11:42:18 PM
Whats the widest fitting Slip-on? I got a wide foot so i only skate 306 lace ups. Vans skate, and 306 slips are too narrow.  Anyone have a review on the Wino or others? Thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 02, 2022, 02:34:08 AM
Whats the widest fitting Slip-on? I got a wide foot so i only skate 306 lace ups. Vans skate, and 306 slips are too narrow.  Anyone have a review on the Wino or others? Thanks
Soz don't know widest but got a mate with fat feet who gets the vans slip on pros and takes out the big insole and replaces it with a thin one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on July 02, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
Whats the widest fitting Slip-on? I got a wide foot so i only skate 306 lace ups. Vans skate, and 306 slips are too narrow.  Anyone have a review on the Wino or others? Thanks

Winos are skinnier than Van's slip ons but winos also stretch out after awhile of wearing them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 02, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
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Back to the skate questions has anybody used the Ace rethreader? The kingpin one is what I need right now
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I recently used the Ace rethreader on the kingpin of some Indy Hollows. The nut didn't go on that easy before, after I used the rethreader the nut went on.. not as easy. So I am not sure the rethreader really helps with totaly destroyed threads on bolts. It seems to work for slightly damaged threads. I am curious to hear other opinions about it.
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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 02, 2022, 03:07:43 PM
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I recently used the Ace rethreader on the kingpin of some Indy Hollows. The nut didn't go on that easy before, after I used the rethreader the nut went on.. not as easy. So I am not sure the rethreader really helps with totaly destroyed threads on bolts. It seems to work for slightly damaged threads. I am curious to hear other opinions about it.


One of the hardest things is also getting all the extra metal from the nut or whatever out of the threads of the kingpins, so either half a turn on and quarter turn back with a shake, or get a really rough brush / metal option if possible, to brush out those other bits still stuck in there.

This helped a whole lot with people, especially with hollow kingpins, which seem to attract more of the other metal or have more issues with hollow kingpins - harder metal?!? and so often will mess up re-threaders if they are cheap, like the Ace versions.  I found that the solid tool version was a whole lot better, as per post below, but the simple nut rethreaders can also work well enough.


Without having to go right into the posts, they are available from tool shops and online, UNF24 or NF24 3/8" rethreader.


Kingpin rethreader 3/8 UNF 24 / NF 24
Axle rethreader 5/16 UNF 24 / NF 24



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQpPFyflbl-/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ7o6j4ljEX/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on July 03, 2022, 01:14:36 AM
I’ve used the Ace kingpin rethreader successfully on two kingpins. Wasn’t easy to get it aligned but in the end I did manage the rethread both kingpins successfully so I could get a normal nut back on and very easily.

I gave one of the axle rethreaders to a dude at the indoor skate park last winter as he had fucked up axles and couldn’t get the nut on on one of them. He managed to fix that and then decided to do all the others also as preventative maintenance and managed to fuck two up so that the nut wouldn’t hold anymore. In the end he went and got new trucks because of this.

So, yes, they can work but you have to be careful with them as they can be a bit difficult to use and you can fuck things up with them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on July 03, 2022, 04:22:54 AM
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Whats the widest fitting Slip-on? I got a wide foot so i only skate 306 lace ups. Vans skate, and 306 slips are too narrow.  Anyone have a review on the Wino or others? Thanks
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Winos are skinnier than Van's slip ons but winos also stretch out after awhile of wearing them

I completely disagree. Wino G6 slip on (vulc) is noticeably wider than Vans Skate slip on/slip on pro. They are roomier than Vans and probably a tiny bit roomier than 306 slip. That said, I've not skated them but they're pretty comfy for a slip on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 03, 2022, 10:40:45 AM
IG really isn’t wort the time anymore. The only things I bother with on it now are the stories. They flood post ‘suggested posts’ or suggested users so much you can’t even find post from people you do actually follow. I’d completely ditch it but it’s how I keep in contact with people I skate with or people out of town.
Fuck Zuckerberg. He destroyed yet another platform.


What’s the next thing then?
Serious question. TikTok?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 03, 2022, 11:53:22 AM
You’re asking the wrong person. I’m old and out of touch.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on July 03, 2022, 01:48:15 PM
What’s the next thing then?
Serious question. TikTok?
I dunno, but I’m so bored with this algorithm thing that I may give actual skateboarding a try, for a change. ::)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Landmine on July 03, 2022, 06:36:11 PM
Why do my feet hurt lately when I skate?  I'm assuming it's the NB 288s I've been wearing recently, but what would be causing the foot pain?  I never got foot pain skating Vans, but Vans aren't really comfortable.  Maybe nice comfortable shoes are too soft and I'm using my foot muscles more? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on July 03, 2022, 07:44:32 PM
Instagram questions :


When would it make sense to post a reel instead of a classic post?


And would you post horizontal or vertical videos ?




I‘m late , I know.

Reels get the most traction. Post videos vertical because it fills the frame and looks better on your bio page. Don’t forget to edit the cover so it looks interesting enough to click on if someone sees it on their explore page. No more than 3-5 hashtags now or it will get buried in the algorithm. Three posts a week to keep audience engagement but over saturation is treated like spam by the algorithm now. Until everything changes again of course.

Edit: Sorry if too much info, I was a Social Media Manager for a woodshop for a while.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 03, 2022, 07:49:30 PM
Why do my feet hurt lately when I skate?  I'm assuming it's the NB 288s I've been wearing recently, but what would be causing the foot pain?  I never got foot pain skating Vans, but Vans aren't really comfortable.  Maybe nice comfortable shoes are too soft and I'm using my foot muscles more? 

Thin insoles on the NB? The Vans Pop Cush insoles are liked by most.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Landmine on July 03, 2022, 08:00:53 PM
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Why do my feet hurt lately when I skate?  I'm assuming it's the NB 288s I've been wearing recently, but what would be causing the foot pain?  I never got foot pain skating Vans, but Vans aren't really comfortable.  Maybe nice comfortable shoes are too soft and I'm using my foot muscles more? 
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Thin insoles on the NB? The Vans Pop Cush insoles are liked by most.

Yeah, I suppose these are pretty thin.  Guess I'll just keep some Vans on hand to skate
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 03, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
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Why do my feet hurt lately when I skate?  I'm assuming it's the NB 288s I've been wearing recently, but what would be causing the foot pain?  I never got foot pain skating Vans, but Vans aren't really comfortable.  Maybe nice comfortable shoes are too soft and I'm using my foot muscles more? 
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Thin insoles on the NB? The Vans Pop Cush insoles are liked by most.
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Yeah, I suppose these are pretty thin.  Guess I'll just keep some Vans on hand to skate

Or keep the insoles from old Vans, stick them in the NB.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on July 04, 2022, 02:32:22 PM
Skate shop owners / slap pals who work at skate shops: how much are purchasing your wholesale decks for these days? We're speaking with some shops and understand that the range is between $30-$44 but curious to hear from the community to make sure i'm still up to date with pricing. Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on July 04, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
Price points around $25 give or take. Pro decks between $38 and $42
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 04, 2022, 08:10:04 PM
How do you stop being a legend? I’m really tired of hearing about it.

It’s always the negative shit. I am not really made of Teflon
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on July 04, 2022, 08:44:49 PM
How do you stop being a legend? I’m really tired of hearing about it.

It’s always the negative shit. I am not really made of Teflon

In response to your question I’ll ask some questions:

How are switch tre’s? I haven’t given up hope, but…that’s only because I’m romantic, my attempts are not in good faith, definitely posing them.
I know you ride the v, when was the last time you skated lo’s?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Justinshreds on July 07, 2022, 04:51:43 AM
Is dwindle wood measured straight across like bbs, or flat like ps stix?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 07, 2022, 05:08:31 AM
IG really isn’t wort the time anymore. The only things I bother with on it now are the stories. They flood post ‘suggested posts’ or suggested users so much you can’t even find post from people you do actually follow. I’d completely ditch it but it’s how I keep in contact with people I skate with or people out of town.
Fuck Zuckerberg. He destroyed yet another platform.

They really seem hellbent on killing the goose that laid the golden egg
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on July 07, 2022, 12:10:53 PM
I really like the grind on my forced hollow indys, am I right that they grind better than normal indys?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on July 07, 2022, 12:14:12 PM
I really like the grind on my forced hollow indys, am I right that they grind better than normal indys?

That’s rad!
I prefer the weight of solid, cast Indy’s when grinding. That’s just me tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on July 07, 2022, 01:28:53 PM
I really like the grind on my forced hollow indys, am I right that they grind better than normal indys?

There's no reason the grind would be different, hanger same material as raw or hollow cast (356 Aluminum)
Feeling can be slightly different though because of height / weight difference and baseplate (that should be really minimal and it's a matter of preference about what's better)
Side note: I think there's a huge difference between worn and brand new trucks (contact surface is skinny on new trucks)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on July 07, 2022, 01:43:33 PM
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I really like the grind on my forced hollow indys, am I right that they grind better than normal indys?
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There's no reason the grind would be different, hanger same material as raw or hollow cast (356 Aluminum)
Feeling can be slightly different though because of height / weight difference and baseplate (that should be really minimal and it's a matter of preference about what's better)
Side note: I think there's a huge difference between worn and brand new trucks (contact surface is skinny on new trucks)

Yeah that might add to the feeling. Rode normal 159s that were almost broken before stitching them out. Also thought that the hanger was made of the same material. They sound different than the normal ones I was riding but maybe I'll have to grind them down a bit further before I decide on hollows as my preferred truck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on July 07, 2022, 05:22:21 PM
Is dwindle wood measured straight across like bbs, or flat like ps stix?


As far as I know, almost every other woodshop measures straight across, with PS Stix being the only one that measures with the concave.

The Dwindle boards I have seen and people I know ride are very much the correct measurements, maybe the most correct in the industry, when it comes to how accurate their listed dimensions are when compared to the actual product.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 07, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
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Is dwindle wood measured straight across like bbs, or flat like ps stix?
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As far as I know, almost every other woodshop measures straight across, with PS Stix being the only one that measures with the concave.

The Dwindle boards I have seen and people I know ride are very much the correct measurements, maybe the most correct in the industry, when it comes to how accurate their listed dimensions are when compared to the actual product.

Can confirm, straight across, tip to tip on the Enjoi I have setup right now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 07, 2022, 06:40:19 PM
But what is the cost of this……perfection?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on July 08, 2022, 02:25:39 AM
But what is the cost of this……perfection?

How lazy is it to manufacture boards and not be precise with the dimensions ?

Do you guys know if chinese factories do hand operated edge sanding or do they have a machine to do that ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 08, 2022, 04:00:20 AM
Anybody know what the actual dimensions of a Cali school picnic table and/or single bench are?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 08, 2022, 05:25:15 PM
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IG really isn’t wort the time anymore. The only things I bother with on it now are the stories. They flood post ‘suggested posts’ or suggested users so much you can’t even find post from people you do actually follow. I’d completely ditch it but it’s how I keep in contact with people I skate with or people out of town.
Fuck Zuckerberg. He destroyed yet another platform.
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They really seem hellbent on killing the goose that laid the golden egg
Maybe he’s trying to kill it to help bring back the zombie fb or eliminate it for meta. Who knows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on July 08, 2022, 06:47:05 PM
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But what is the cost of this……perfection?
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How lazy is it to manufacture boards and not be precise with the dimensions ?

Do you guys know if chinese factories do hand operated edge sanding or do they have a machine to do that ?


Any of the videos (which are pretty old now, I think) had always shown people doing it by hand, but it would make sense that almost every part of the process become automated at some point, which in turn would make everything way more even as well.


As per anything that has "hands on" human involvement, there could always be some differences, a little heavy here, a little lighter there, new sanding belt vs old sanding belt, but certainly the single press method, compared to the four or more press method gives a more accurate product every single time, as well as machine cut shapes and as much automation as possible.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on July 09, 2022, 06:04:35 AM
Where can I buy laces like the ones on Tyshawns shoe and Tiagos? The Tyshawn lows are big lace rippers for me. I bought some off lace doctor but they’re too thin. Anyone know where to buy good replacements?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 09, 2022, 06:36:22 AM
Where can I buy laces like the ones on Tyshawns shoe and Tiagos? The Tyshawn lows are big lace rippers for me. I bought some off lace doctor but they’re too thin. Anyone know where to buy good replacements?

I got some here, not exactly identical but quite similar.

 https://www.feetunique.fr/lacets-ovales-6mm (https://www.feetunique.fr/lacets-ovales-6mm)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 09, 2022, 09:11:14 AM
Before I buy a leaf blower.
Does anyone know of a broom like that one scum co made that disassembles into small pieces to carry easily?

I can personally confirm that this handle (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kraft-Tool-Co-60-in-Aluminum-Snap-Style-Broom-Handle-3-Piece-CC263/205323267) will easily screw into this broom (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Quickie-2-in-1-Squeegee-Push-Broom-635SU/202843362). Since this fits together so easily, I assume that the threading on the base of a broom is more or less standard and you can use the collapsable bit with just about any other industrial broom. It packs up super small, easy to keep in the car, but fuck does it get dirty. Gotta figure out a bag situation to keep out the debris.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beatifk on July 10, 2022, 06:52:00 AM
Where the hell is my skate tool?!? Did I leave it in my car?

I got some new wheels and I'm resisting the urge to use some vice grips to put them on. Please lord grant me the strength to be patient.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 10, 2022, 07:23:58 AM
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How do you stop being a legend? I’m really tired of hearing about it.

It’s always the negative shit. I am not really made of Teflon
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In response to your question I’ll ask some questions:

How are switch tre’s? I haven’t given up hope, but…that’s only because I’m romantic, my attempts are not in good faith, definitely posing them.
I know you ride the v, when was the last time you skated lo’s?

I completely gave up on switch tre. I feel like it’s not possible at my age unless I lighten up my set up a ton.

I should really be working on switch back 3. That’s way more realistic now I finally got switch back 80 kinda.

I would not say I have the sw bs 80 but I can do them in one motion now.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 10, 2022, 10:54:01 AM
Why the fuck was pigpen in grind session? Of the hundreds of skaters they could of picked from they chose fucking pigpen.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on July 10, 2022, 12:30:58 PM
So regarding dipped boards, if I sand down til I reach the plys, am I in danger of the board delaminating over time faster than it might naturally occur? I'm about to set up a cruiser on a dipped board and am tempted to just sand it down from the jump. Is this a bad idea? Is there something I can apply with a brush or from a can that will fix that?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on July 10, 2022, 01:04:29 PM
dipped boards look so weird.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakedilla on July 10, 2022, 02:31:56 PM
Every dipped board I've ever skated I have a weird madness/fear of slipping out on slides, despite never experiencing that myself. anyone else? Do dipped boards really even provide that much more "slide" than a regularly printed board?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 10, 2022, 06:47:17 PM
So regarding dipped boards, if I sand down til I reach the plys, am I in danger of the board delaminating over time faster than it might naturally occur? I'm about to set up a cruiser on a dipped board and am tempted to just sand it down from the jump. Is this a bad idea? Is there something I can apply with a brush or from a can that will fix that?


Any lacquer or clear coat will do just fine, same as any paint to seal the wood.  Sanding will almost always remove both the sprayed paint colour as well as the initial clear coat they put on the decks to seal them when first done, so if nothing else, just a light layer of clear coat should do it.


Every dipped board I've ever skated I have a weird madness/fear of slipping out on slides, despite never experiencing that myself. anyone else? Do dipped boards really even provide that much more "slide" than a regularly printed board?


I know some people think the more paint, the more slippery a board will be, but with some paints, it is actually the opposite and the thicker layers of paint make it not slide half as much.  No telling between which boards though, but all up any paint could be slippery to start with, but then a whole lot less once you have skated the board a bit.


The most annoying thing I found, as did many others, is with dipped boards, they almost always used the cheaper ply in the construction (usually natural ply layers) which then didn't hold up half as well as other better ply layers that were stained, but that was from a fair while ago and things might have changed now.

More recently, the last BBS board that was fully painted / dipped was all natural and didn't last half as long as the others for a guy I skate with, from one brand I am not going to name, but other brands like FA / Hockey seem to still be on the same wood, stained layers under the dipped colours.

Older PS Stix and NHS boards were very soft wood for their dipped boards, of which I have a lot of broken boards from other people in those options, as well as some not broken but very soggy flexed out decks that are best on the board walls, than under someone's feet.

Curious to know which boards anyone else has had that are dipped and if they are on pricepoint / natural wood or pro stained wood.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 11, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
I thought it was in this thread and maybe I'm not going back far enough but wasn't there a discussion on flying with decks? I flew and checked my deck and it feels oddly soggy. I was on a 787, which flies at 40k feet which is higher than normal. My bushings also feel ridiculously squishy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 11, 2022, 06:47:06 PM
I thought it was in this thread and maybe I'm not going back far enough but wasn't there a discussion on flying with decks? I flew and checked my deck and it feels oddly soggy. I was on a 787, which flies at 40k feet which is higher than normal. My bushings also feel ridiculously squishy.


I can't remember where it was / which thread, but I used to fly every other week and my "travel" board would end up feeling very different from my others I had (pretty much the same setups) and put it down to the pressure and temperatures in the cargo area, even though inside a bag and all that, it felt way heavier and a little soggy.

Not sure about bushings though, but the temperature changes could have affected them somewhat as well.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Minoru Suzuki on July 12, 2022, 09:06:08 AM
Is Alltimers a play on Alzheimer's?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on July 12, 2022, 09:14:39 AM
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Before I buy a leaf blower.
Does anyone know of a broom like that one scum co made that disassembles into small pieces to carry easily?
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I can personally confirm that this handle (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kraft-Tool-Co-60-in-Aluminum-Snap-Style-Broom-Handle-3-Piece-CC263/205323267) will easily screw into this broom (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Quickie-2-in-1-Squeegee-Push-Broom-635SU/202843362). Since this fits together so easily, I assume that the threading on the base of a broom is more or less standard and you can use the collapsable bit with just about any other industrial broom. It packs up super small, easy to keep in the car, but fuck does it get dirty. Gotta figure out a bag situation to keep out the debris.

I’m using that same broom head with a telescoping paint roller extension handle. Pretty much all brooms and roller frames use the same thread.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on July 12, 2022, 02:50:36 PM
Just curious: has anyone skated the Thunder 181? I feel like everyone immediately forgot about them after release.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on July 13, 2022, 10:26:28 AM
I thought it was in this thread and maybe I'm not going back far enough but wasn't there a discussion on flying with decks? I flew and checked my deck and it feels oddly soggy. I was on a 787, which flies at 40k feet which is higher than normal. My bushings also feel ridiculously squishy.

There was a travel thread where this was talked about. So the main luggage compartment on a plane isnt pressurized which exposes your board to pressure, temp change, moisture, etc. Pretty much the perfect conditions to warp your board in a short amount of time. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 13, 2022, 10:35:12 AM
Just curious: has anyone skated the Thunder 181? I feel like everyone immediately forgot about them after release.

Haven't hit europe yet. I really want to hold these in my hands and look at them, but don't have any use for them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hotdogsweatpants on July 15, 2022, 03:16:02 PM
What happens to wheels over time? Do they become more slick or more grippy?

Recently bought new wheels (56mm Bones SPF 84b P5), which are exactly the same as my old wheels, but I'm having a much tougher time reverting on concrete transition.

Will this improve with time or do I bite the bullet and change to Spitfire Formula 4's, even though I really liked my last two sets of Bones SPF?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 15, 2022, 07:01:07 PM
What happens to wheels over time? Do they become more slick or more grippy?

Recently bought new wheels (56mm Bones SPF 84b P5), which are exactly the same as my old wheels, but I'm having a much tougher time reverting on concrete transition.

Will this improve with time or do I bite the bullet and change to Spitfire Formula 4's, even though I really liked my last two sets of Bones SPF?


I feel like it depends a lot on the formula, but for most wheels I have, they definitely get harder as they age, some a lot more than others.

Urethane cures at different rates, so some wheels are always going to start out softer when new right out of the packet, while some will stay more or less the same throughout.

If a set of wheels has coloured significantly, it is a sure sign of that process, especially with older Spitfire and even some older Bones wheels I have had over the years.


The only other thing that you don't really know is how long something has been sitting in stock, either in a cabinet or where ever, but since the pandemic, there have been very few older sets of wheels floating around and a whole lot more of the brand new freshly made wheels hitting shops, which I think has also contributed to more of that "new wheel feel" being discovered by others too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 17, 2022, 09:11:12 PM
https://esskateboarding.com/collections/sale/products/accel-slim-x-swift-1-5-blue

Anyone know if this model has hidden lace loops like the Swift 1.5? The description says "Protective Lace Loops".

I'm wearing Accel Slim Plus Everstitch and even though it's not stated in the description they do come with hidden lace loops which is one of my favorite features of the shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 18, 2022, 06:54:03 AM
Could tightening your trucks reduce your pop?
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Post by: goodatmeth on July 18, 2022, 07:12:29 AM
Could tightening your trucks reduce your pop?

I've found the opposite to be true.
A possible explanation could be that less downward force is dispersed into a small left/right turn aka compression of the bushings and goes more directly into the ground.
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Post by: rocklobster on July 18, 2022, 08:47:30 AM
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I've found the opposite to be true.
A possible explanation could be that less downward force is dispersed into a small left/right turn aka compression of the bushings and goes more directly into the ground.

Same, less twitch before the pop helped with getting a solid snap off the ground. But tight trucks did make 180 tricks noticably harder.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on July 18, 2022, 09:47:13 AM
I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this. What are 360 flips called where the board is popped frontside instead of backside? I guess I've never seen one, and probably don't want to b/c I imagine it to look like shit, but I'm too curious not to ask
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Post by: bbk on July 18, 2022, 10:02:59 AM
360 hardflip if kickflip, laserflip if heelflip.
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Post by: Murge on July 18, 2022, 11:22:57 AM
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Could tightening your trucks reduce your pop?
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I've found the opposite to be true.
A possible explanation could be that less downward force is dispersed into a small left/right turn aka compression of the bushings and goes more directly into the ground.
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Same, less twitch before the pop helped with getting a solid snap off the ground. But tight trucks did make 180 tricks noticably harder.

Does tight trucks make scoop tricks like tres and impossibles harder or easier?



Anyone have tips on getting quick feet? Having an issue after I pop up a curb I have about 6 or so feet to set up again to hit a ledge. But I can’t get set up in time to pop again. 
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Post by: Mean salto on July 18, 2022, 12:08:19 PM
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I've found the opposite to be true.
A possible explanation could be that less downward force is dispersed into a small left/right turn aka compression of the bushings and goes more directly into the ground.
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Same, less twitch before the pop helped with getting a solid snap off the ground. But tight trucks did make 180 tricks noticably harder.
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Does tight trucks make scoop tricks like tres and impossibles harder or easier?



Anyone have tips on getting quick feet? Having an issue after I pop up a curb I have about 6 or so feet to set up again to hit a ledge. But I can’t get set up in time to pop again.
Don't know about tre and impossible but I feel like they do for backside flip/heel which have a little bit of the same motion. Feel like tight trucks help with popping a trick and loose (within reason) help with landing.

Think you gotta practice not taking your foot off the tail or sliding your front foot too far up on the first Ollie and olling however your feet are without really setting up for the second. Can even land in manual for a half second and get used to landing with your feet already back a bit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on July 18, 2022, 12:18:44 PM
Thanks a lot @bbk!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 18, 2022, 12:31:54 PM
Could tightening your trucks reduce your pop?

If I tighten my trucks I have more pop with tricks that involve a shuv.

Straight tricks not so much.

My tre flips explode with a slightly tighter back truck. There is a point where tightening it more becomes problematic. It can be seen with like Rick flips. I’ll have only three wheels down when I go to pop the trick.

I’d rather have loose trucks and have to work a little bit more to really pop a high trick.

I like speed wobble hill bombs. That’s the most exciting thing in skateboarding to me at this age.

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What happens to wheels over time? Do they become more slick or more grippy?

Recently bought new wheels (56mm Bones SPF 84b P5), which are exactly the same as my old wheels, but I'm having a much tougher time reverting on concrete transition.

Will this improve with time or do I bite the bullet and change to Spitfire Formula 4's, even though I really liked my last two sets of Bones SPF?
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I feel like it depends a lot on the formula, but for most wheels I have, they definitely get harder as they age, some a lot more than others.

Urethane cures at different rates, so some wheels are always going to start out softer when new right out of the packet, while some will stay more or less the same throughout.

If a set of wheels has coloured significantly, it is a sure sign of that process, especially with older Spitfire and even some older Bones wheels I have had over the years.


The only other thing that you don't really know is how long something has been sitting in stock, either in a cabinet or where ever, but since the pandemic, there have been very few older sets of wheels floating around and a whole lot more of the brand new freshly made wheels hitting shops, which I think has also contributed to more of that "new wheel feel" being discovered by others too.



I’ve had wheels go either way. Definitely depended on the formula.

V2 Bones seem to get more and more sticky. 

F4 is pretty consistent from start to finish.

Loops I haven’t had long enough yet. I do know they last longer than F4. Way way longer. Loops kinda remind me of Pig’s vintage urethane.

My orange pigs from like way way way back was the best wheel I’ve ever had.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 18, 2022, 05:04:43 PM
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Could tightening your trucks reduce your pop?
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I've found the opposite to be true.
A possible explanation could be that less downward force is dispersed into a small left/right turn aka compression of the bushings and goes more directly into the ground.
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Same, less twitch before the pop helped with getting a solid snap off the ground. But tight trucks did make 180 tricks noticably harder.
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Does tight trucks make scoop tricks like tres and impossibles harder or easier?



Anyone have tips on getting quick feet? Having an issue after I pop up a curb I have about 6 or so feet to set up again to hit a ledge. But I can’t get set up in time to pop again.

For me it's learning how to level out my tail quickly. Once the tail is level for me my front foot can do whatever. Move back slightly in your case. Practice it on flat first with small, quick Ollie's. After you slide the front foot up a tad, overexagerate bringing the rear foot up quick even if it's not high. Once you get that down, on the way down you can slide the front foot back a tad. I slow mo'd an old 411 back in the day to learn this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: truthislie on July 20, 2022, 09:43:45 AM
Today I wondered if Stevie Cab still gets royalties for his shoes. Must be some nice money with the Half Cab trend going on right now...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on July 20, 2022, 11:58:23 AM
Today I wondered if Stevie Cab still gets royalties for his shoes. Must be some nice money with the Half Cab trend going on right now...
he does, but only half for obvious reasons
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Post by: truthislie on July 20, 2022, 12:17:02 PM
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Today I wondered if Stevie Cab still gets royalties for his shoes. Must be some nice money with the Half Cab trend going on right now...
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he does, but only half for obvious reasons

Well played. I should have known :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on July 21, 2022, 05:05:27 AM
How is the grind clearance on thunder 148 for feebles/smiths? I am thinking of sizing up from 147s (that I setup with kreper inverted kingpins) and if possible I’d like to try the 148s with forged plates (to save on height and I won’t be able to pound out the kingpins if needed)
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 21, 2022, 05:09:13 AM
How is the grind clearance on thunder 148 for feebles/smiths? I am thinking of sizing up from 147s (that I setup with kreper inverted kingpins) and if possible I’d like to try the 148s with forged plates (to save on height and I won’t be able to pound out the kingpins if needed)
Thanks in advance!

Possibly still better than 147 with an ikp. Definitely good enough
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 06:01:36 AM
Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 06:45:35 AM
Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 21, 2022, 07:24:05 AM
Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE

Link doesn't work for me but just from the title, they are hollow lights.

Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.

Smoother ride, slightly more wheelbite and you're 1mm further from the ground, so not a huge difference but it's noticeable.
You'll get used to it super quickly for sure
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 07:37:36 AM
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Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE
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Link doesn't work for me but just from the title, they are hollow lights.

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Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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Smoother ride, slightly more wheelbite and you're 1mm further from the ground, so not a huge difference but it's noticeable.
You'll get used to it super quickly for sure

Thx

The trucks in the link don’t have a „lights“ in the name and this confuses me. I looked them up in other shops and it never says „lights“.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on July 21, 2022, 08:15:29 AM
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Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE
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Link doesn't work for me but just from the title, they are hollow lights.

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Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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Smoother ride, slightly more wheelbite and you're 1mm further from the ground, so not a huge difference but it's noticeable.
You'll get used to it super quickly for sure
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Thx

The trucks in the link don’t have a „lights“ in the name and this confuses me. I looked them up in other shops and it never says „lights“.

i think you're safe, a 'v-hollow light' technically doesn't exist, venture just calls it a v-hollow. def confusing though to see it listed on sites that way though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on July 21, 2022, 07:48:20 PM
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How is the grind clearance on thunder 148 for feebles/smiths? I am thinking of sizing up from 147s (that I setup with kreper inverted kingpins) and if possible I’d like to try the 148s with forged plates (to save on height and I won’t be able to pound out the kingpins if needed)
Thanks in advance!
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Possibly still better than 147 with an ikp. Definitely good enough
Thank you!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 21, 2022, 08:03:34 PM
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Today I wondered if Stevie Cab still gets royalties for his shoes. Must be some nice money with the Half Cab trend going on right now...
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he does, but only half for obvious reasons

California….maybe a quarter….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quique on July 21, 2022, 08:26:25 PM
Looking at the NB 808 and the reactions made me think, how many pros have released a second shoe that was regarded as well or better than the first model? From the top of my head I can think of the Crocketts, maybe the ka-2s?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on July 21, 2022, 09:16:42 PM
Looking at the NB 808 and the reactions made me think, how many pros have released a second shoe that was regarded as well or better than the first model? From the top of my head I can think of the Crocketts, maybe the ka-2s?

to be fair i'm waiting for that brown suede(?) version of the 808 that was on the catalog shot, that's gonna be some good shit. love the shoe, but just not that initial white colorway.
to answer your question though, does ave count?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 21, 2022, 09:21:04 PM
Looking at the NB 808 and the reactions made me think, how many pros have released a second shoe that was regarded as well or better than the first model? From the top of my head I can think of the Crocketts, maybe the ka-2s?
Reynolds 2? Aves second DC, dollins 3rd vans, TNT 2, Herman 2, Leo's second emerica was probably his best shoe (maybe even the best emerica shoe) but all evidence it existed has been completely scrubbed out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 21, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
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How is the grind clearance on thunder 148 for feebles/smiths? I am thinking of sizing up from 147s (that I setup with kreper inverted kingpins) and if possible I’d like to try the 148s with forged plates (to save on height and I won’t be able to pound out the kingpins if needed)
Thanks in advance!
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Possibly still better than 147 with an ikp. Definitely good enough
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Thank you!


At least you would have two options there as well.

The baseplates are the same through different widths of truck, just the hangers, which vary in width and height, so you can put the 148 hangers on the older baseplates to try that option just the same too, eg see which works better for you with either the forged plates that would be on the new trucks compared to the IKP modified cast baseplates from the old ones.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 21, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
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Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE
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Link doesn't work for me but just from the title, they are hollow lights.

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Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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Smoother ride, slightly more wheelbite and you're 1mm further from the ground, so not a huge difference but it's noticeable.
You'll get used to it super quickly for sure
[close]

Thx

The trucks in the link don’t have a „lights“ in the name and this confuses me. I looked them up in other shops and it never says „lights“.
[close]

i think you're safe, a 'v-hollow light' technically doesn't exist, venture just calls it a v-hollow. def confusing though to see it listed on sites that way though


It is a bit funny with the naming, but hopefully this makes it a whole lot easier, with this info:

https://venturetrucks.net/

In particular this one with the different versions, with names helps (regardless of the graphic):


https://www.venturetrucks.net/summer22/08-ve-sp22-d1-polished.jpg


V-Lights

Features: Regular Axle on hanger, Forged baseplate, Hollow Kingpin


V-Hollow

Features: Hollow Axle on hanger, Forged baseplate, Hollow Kingpin



As for the wheel question, going from 52mm to 54mm, you are going to be 1mm higher off the ground, so it is not a huge jump, but there are some differences, mainly being the wheels will roll over everything a little better, maybe needing a little more precision on things like crooked grinds with bigger wheels, as well as nose / tail slides being a little more grippy but the wheels will lock in to some things more easily, last a lot longer and hold up better than smaller wheels too, so it balances out overall.

Some people will really notice it a lot, depending on what tricks you usually do or how you go about doing some things, so as much as they might feel faster at first, they might also take a bit to get used to or become easier to ride as they wear down if you can really feel the difference in them.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 22, 2022, 01:08:50 AM
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Do these weight the same as v-hollow lights ?

https://www.titus.de/venture-achse-5.2-high-v-hollow-og-wings-silverpolished-red-0122933/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIifLq1ISK-QIVxY1oCR1XIQBzEAQYCyABEgJUf_D_BwE
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Link doesn't work for me but just from the title, they are hollow lights.

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Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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Smoother ride, slightly more wheelbite and you're 1mm further from the ground, so not a huge difference but it's noticeable.
You'll get used to it super quickly for sure
[close]

Thx

The trucks in the link don’t have a „lights“ in the name and this confuses me. I looked them up in other shops and it never says „lights“.
[close]

i think you're safe, a 'v-hollow light' technically doesn't exist, venture just calls it a v-hollow. def confusing though to see it listed on sites that way though
[close]


It is a bit funny with the naming, but hopefully this makes it a whole lot easier, with this info:

https://venturetrucks.net/

In particular this one with the different versions, with names helps (regardless of the graphic):


https://www.venturetrucks.net/summer22/08-ve-sp22-d1-polished.jpg


V-Lights

Features: Regular Axle on hanger, Forged baseplate, Hollow Kingpin


V-Hollow

Features: Hollow Axle on hanger, Forged baseplate, Hollow Kingpin



As for the wheel question, going from 52mm to 54mm, you are going to be 1mm higher off the ground, so it is not a huge jump, but there are some differences, mainly being the wheels will roll over everything a little better, maybe needing a little more precision on things like crooked grinds with bigger wheels, as well as nose / tail slides being a little more grippy but the wheels will lock in to some things more easily, last a lot longer and hold up better than smaller wheels too, so it balances out overall.

Some people will really notice it a lot, depending on what tricks you usually do or how you go about doing some things, so as much as they might feel faster at first, they might also take a bit to get used to or become easier to ride as they wear down if you can really feel the difference in them.

Thx!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on July 22, 2022, 01:37:47 AM
Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.

It depends on the wheel. For some reason Spitfire Conical Fulls get waaay wider between 54mm and 56mm. An actually noticeable width and weight difference. So you might not really feel the height difference, but the width/mass change will affect things for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on July 23, 2022, 11:31:14 AM
Probably been asked and answered a million times...

who makes the best Dunk clone? DC? Lakai? Ipath?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 23, 2022, 01:05:55 PM
Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bolts the snowman on July 23, 2022, 01:46:32 PM
“what’s the best wheelbase?”
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on July 23, 2022, 02:02:36 PM
Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.

I’ve always wondered this too. I figured that maybe ppl don’t have knifes around that much in the US or something.

I’ve used an old Victorinox Swiss army type folding hunting knife with a lockable blade to grip boards since I was a teenager cuz that’s what I had around at that time. I think I’ve sharpened it only a few times and works beautifully. I’ve gripped probably 100+ boards with it.

I don’t think I’ve ever even had a razor blade in my hands. I guess some ppl still use them for shaving and suicides or whatever but they’re not that widely available in Finland I think.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Curbfiend on July 23, 2022, 02:18:22 PM
Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.

Agreed. I like using a utility knife with the snap off blades.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on July 23, 2022, 03:39:47 PM
Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.

I tend to feel like I can’t maneuver/get the angle I want with a utility knife. Of course I’ve tried it maybe on time and I’m Sure I could with practice. For me, it’s just easier with just the razor blade, and I always have a couple in my kit. Plus, part of it just feels/looks cool (obviously not a good reason, but still true).

I know people do their grip with pocket knives and shit, I just can’t ever keep a blade sharp enough and I hate rough grip around the edges. Razor blade just works.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on July 23, 2022, 10:15:26 PM
Probably been asked and answered a million times...

who makes the best Dunk clone? DC? Lakai? Ipath?

I ask this question more than once a month.
I’m skating some dunks currently, and I’d rather stick with these buuuuuuut
Air Jordan 1s are good, maybe even better tbh, but too expensive.
Tiago’s have a lot more going on, the fit isn’t as good for me, but the materials and value seem better than a dunk.
The Tyshawn’s were really good, but then I went on a big vans jag and cannot remember how they fit. But I remember them being supportive, and the flick was nice (narrower in the toe, flick not as good as a dunk).

So…yeah no good answers.
I’ve wanted to try the Manteca’s as a dunk alike, and maybe club c’s? Dunno
There was that nb dunk looking shoe posted somewhere
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 24, 2022, 10:28:15 AM
What makes a setup sound bad, rattle or be extremely loud?

I'm riding a girl couch, af1 66, 57mm oski radials f4 99a. No deck rails, no bearing spacers, everything is tight, trucks have about half a thread showing. Just riding around it's so loud and annoying it fully throws me off. Other people confirmed it sounds weirdly loud.

I rode the trucks and bearings before without problems. The wheels do feel kinda extra hard for 99a f4s, but that shouldn't make a rattling sound, right? Can a deck sound that bad?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on July 24, 2022, 11:17:26 AM
What makes a setup sound bad, rattle or be extremely loud?

I'm riding a girl couch, af1 66, 57mm oski radials f4 99a. No deck rails, no bearing spacers, everything is tight, trucks have about half a thread showing. Just riding around it's so loud and annoying it fully throws me off. Other people confirmed it sounds weirdly loud.

I rode the trucks and bearings before without problems. The wheels do feel kinda extra hard for 99a f4s, but that shouldn't make a rattling sound, right? Can a deck sound that bad?
Maybe one of your bearings ?
I once broke a bearing while putting it in a new wheel.
The lill ring inside broke and it made weird noises. I fixed it with super glue and it still works for 3 months now .
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on July 24, 2022, 12:27:25 PM
What makes a setup sound bad, rattle or be extremely loud?

I'm riding a girl couch, af1 66, 57mm oski radials f4 99a. No deck rails, no bearing spacers, everything is tight, trucks have about half a thread showing. Just riding around it's so loud and annoying it fully throws me off. Other people confirmed it sounds weirdly loud.

I rode the trucks and bearings before without problems. The wheels do feel kinda extra hard for 99a f4s, but that shouldn't make a rattling sound, right? Can a deck sound that bad?

one of the worst and most annoying sounds is from a loose pivot cup, which does produce a rattling, clacking sound.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 24, 2022, 06:09:11 PM
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Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.
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I’ve always wondered this too. I figured that maybe ppl don’t have knifes around that much in the US or something.

I’ve used an old Victorinox Swiss army type folding hunting knife with a lockable blade to grip boards since I was a teenager cuz that’s what I had around at that time. I think I’ve sharpened it only a few times and works beautifully. I’ve gripped probably 100+ boards with it.

I don’t think I’ve ever even had a razor blade in my hands. I guess some ppl still use them for shaving and suicides or whatever but they’re not that widely available in Finland I think.


Agreed. I like using a utility knife with the snap off blades.


I tend to feel like I can’t maneuver/get the angle I want with a utility knife. Of course I’ve tried it maybe on time and I’m Sure I could with practice. For me, it’s just easier with just the razor blade, and I always have a couple in my kit. Plus, part of it just feels/looks cool (obviously not a good reason, but still true).

I know people do their grip with pocket knives and shit, I just can’t ever keep a blade sharp enough and I hate rough grip around the edges. Razor blade just works.


From a shop perspective, as well as just having them around, the variation on a box cutter and other knife type blades always kept going missing, but it seemed like no one would ever take a single razor blade I had in plain sight, so that is what I ended up getting more used to using.  Also I can get a packet of razor blades for very cheap, compared to a knife that cost more, was highly visible and went missing every time I turned my back.

Just another perspective anyway, but before I got used to a small blade, it was a bit awkward and not so safe to use.  Now it is just second nature and I can whip around a board grip job in no time with better results too, but I have gripped a lot of boards over the years now.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 24, 2022, 06:11:35 PM
Why do people tend to only hold the razor blade when gripping a deck? It's so much easier to get a good job just using a utility knife with a handle.

The knife body, being metal, also makes a great surface to run around the outside of the grip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 24, 2022, 06:56:14 PM
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What makes a setup sound bad, rattle or be extremely loud?

I'm riding a girl couch, af1 66, 57mm oski radials f4 99a. No deck rails, no bearing spacers, everything is tight, trucks have about half a thread showing. Just riding around it's so loud and annoying it fully throws me off. Other people confirmed it sounds weirdly loud.

I rode the trucks and bearings before without problems. The wheels do feel kinda extra hard for 99a f4s, but that shouldn't make a rattling sound, right? Can a deck sound that bad?
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one of the worst and most annoying sounds is from a loose pivot cup, which does produce a rattling, clacking sound.

This, riding around without a pivot cup or a destroyed on is very distinctive and kills your baseplate quickly.
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Post by: Ok on July 24, 2022, 10:02:40 PM
Probably been asked and answered a million times...

who makes the best Dunk clone? DC? Lakai? Ipath?

Quote from: off on July 21, 2022, 07:37:19 PM
how do the 480s skate? if truly a dunk alternative, im in

I got lucky and an NB homie sent me a couple pair of 480s. They skate really good. The sole is thinner than it looks in photos. I would say probably similar in thickness to a Dunk sole. The upper is much less padded. Decent padding around the collar, but the tongue is basically not padded. Myself, I much prefer tongues like that. A huge thing I don't like about Dunk SBs is the tongue and where they have the straps. If you do the laces all the way to the second hole then they look all weird like you're sucking them in, and if you do them one hole down the tongue sticks up too high like you're trying to puff them out.

TLDR 480 is kind of a perfect cupsole to skate. Great boardfeel, not too thick, not too thin. If you're looking for a Dunk substitute, the sole is, the upper isn't as padded. Crazy glue the seams and you'll be good. 9/10 Watty fucks wit it. IF they make a Numeric version, it will be amazing.

Here's the pair I skated. (There was a smaller N on top of this one that I popped off.)



In answer to your other question, switching insoles on 1010s is unnecessary. I swapped insoles in the 480, but no need in 1010s at all.



I probably linked this in dumbest way possible, but this conversation was relevant omnthe dunk substitute
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 25, 2022, 11:52:50 AM
“what’s the best wheelbase?”

If you are unsure, try a 14.25 wheelbase.

Too narrow = wider wheelbase
Too wide = narrower wheelbase

I thought I was all about 14 wb, but then I tried a 14.38 and settled for a 14.25 (for now).
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Post by: biaherl on July 25, 2022, 05:14:32 PM
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What makes a setup sound bad, rattle or be extremely loud?

I'm riding a girl couch, af1 66, 57mm oski radials f4 99a. No deck rails, no bearing spacers, everything is tight, trucks have about half a thread showing. Just riding around it's so loud and annoying it fully throws me off. Other people confirmed it sounds weirdly loud.

I rode the trucks and bearings before without problems. The wheels do feel kinda extra hard for 99a f4s, but that shouldn't make a rattling sound, right? Can a deck sound that bad?
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one of the worst and most annoying sounds is from a loose pivot cup, which does produce a rattling, clacking sound.
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This, riding around without a pivot cup or a destroyed on is very distinctive and kills your baseplate quickly.

Pivot cups are for kitty cats
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 25, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
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“what’s the best wheelbase?”
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If you are unsure, try a 14.25 wheelbase.

Too narrow = wider wheelbase
Too wide = narrower wheelbase

I thought I was all about 14 wb, but then I tried a 14.38 and settled for a 14.25 (for now).

There's good reason why 14.25 is the most common WB among all manufacturers.
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Post by: roba on July 26, 2022, 06:34:46 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_wSgUCxywVs/T1BO_AH4xRI/AAAAAAAARmQ/vIIJ2hjjTEU/s1600/duffychinabankschrome.jpg)

what are those shoes? is this the infamous pat duffy recs shoe? it kinda looks like chrome spray paint on the sides but it's perfectly aligned with the sole
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: camel filters on July 26, 2022, 08:29:21 AM
Recently switched back to Indy standards and the baseplate is thicker than I remembered. My 7/8 hardware is barely hanging on and I don't want to crank into the wood. Do you guys use 1 inch with standard indy plates? How much does it stick out?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 26, 2022, 09:38:38 AM
Recently switched back to Indy standards and the baseplate is thicker than I remembered. My 7/8 hardware is barely hanging on and I don't want to crank into the wood. Do you guys use 1 inch with standard indy plates? How much does it stick out?
Did it for years. Barely sticks out at all maybe one and a half threads. 7/8th = 22.225mm 1'= 25.4 mm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 26, 2022, 09:41:54 AM
I use 7/8" Shorty's and Lawn Chair just fine. When you grip the board use a razor to get the grip out of the bolt holes that makes it easier for the bolt to catch. If you can tighten them like 3/4 of the way then wait a bit and do the rest I feel the wood sorta softens up at the bolt head during that time and makes it easier to crank the rest without getting weird grip pimples
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 26, 2022, 11:03:03 AM
Recently switched back to Indy standards and the baseplate is thicker than I remembered. My 7/8 hardware is barely hanging on and I don't want to crank into the wood. Do you guys use 1 inch with standard indy plates? How much does it stick out?

The last thread is usually just long enough to engage the Nylock. I use this combination all the time and it has never caused problems.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 26, 2022, 11:29:06 AM
Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: camel filters on July 26, 2022, 12:19:05 PM
Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones
I like it even. Sinking in makes me think I'm making the board more brittle or something. I base this off nothing but my imagination but I've been doing it for too long.

Thank you, @manysnakes and @LebowskisRug  for the info
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 26, 2022, 05:23:09 PM
I think twisting your grip has something to do with it. 

I often semi tighten them, then over the days following I lock it down tighter. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 26, 2022, 06:52:26 PM
Recently switched back to Indy standards and the baseplate is thicker than I remembered. My 7/8 hardware is barely hanging on and I don't want to crank into the wood. Do you guys use 1 inch with standard indy plates? How much does it stick out?

Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones


I used to use 1" for everything, but then when I got hold of Shortys 7/8" which have the slim nuts, I use those now, as well as tracking down the slim nuts from hardware suppliers so I never really have to worry again.

Nyloc thin hex nut  3/16 UNF  boxes on ebay for not a whole lot.

It really depends on the bolts too, some with smaller heads just work way more easily for me, but others with really big heads on the deck bolts are often difficult to get into the board and I see a lot more people with them sticking up a lot, which bugs me to no end as I prefer to have the bolts at the same as or just ever so slightly under the grip level with Shortys or similar brands that have smaller heads.

I do see boards that people have used normal nuts on small head 7/8" bolts and buried the deck bolts into the board a bit, but that also works well enough, no stress cracks or other issues with the wood.  As long as the deck bolt is through enough of the nyloc, it shouldn't come loose.

Other people I know only use the bigger head bolts as they don't want them digging into the wood at all and find they tighten down the smaller ones too easily, but I guess it is down to getting used to where to get them to.


I always have a big thick handled phillips screwdriver handy when setting up boards, to do the gripping line on the board, then pushing into and twisting in each deck hole to get rid of excess grip tape and then finally using the big rounded handle end to press the grip around the deck bolts once they are in, which also helps to make sure bolts are where I want them.

Even just using the deck nut end on a skate tool around each bolt on the grip can be a help too, just push down, don't twist or anything.  I only ever hold the deck bolt still from the grip side and do up the nut from the truck side to prevent any grip tape movement on top of the board too, which definitely helps.


At the end of the day, setting up a board is down to personal preference, but I don't like to feel my bolts at all when on the board, so choice of deck bolt based on the size of the heads is more important than the brand of bolt or anything else to me.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 26, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
When I started skating in the late 90's boards seemed to pressure crack a hell of a lot more than they do now. It was super common to see a bunch of pressure cracks around your truck and I saw a lot of decks snap along the cracks. That's also why people rode softer risers for a really long time. I'm guessing that woodshed quality and consistency improved. It was worse with Ventures, which had more angular baseplate points near the bottom.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 26, 2022, 10:47:57 PM
I feel like I am struggling more with heelflips since I have Indy 149s with stock bushings, which are surfier than the Lurpivs I had before that. Do you think tightening the trucks is a solution?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 26, 2022, 10:58:53 PM
I feel like I am struggling more with heelflips since I have Indy 149s with stock bushings, which are surfier than the Lurpivs I had before that. Do you think tightening the trucks is a solution?

No harm, it's the easiest fix to try rather than going down the gear madness rabbit hole. Tightening up my trucks has done wonders for improving my straight flip trick consistency for the most part, 180 flip tricks not so much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 26, 2022, 11:59:26 PM
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I feel like I am struggling more with heelflips since I have Indy 149s with stock bushings, which are surfier than the Lurpivs I had before that. Do you think tightening the trucks is a solution?
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No harm, it's the easiest fix to try rather than going down the gear madness rabbit hole. Tightening up my trucks has done wonders for improving my straight flip trick consistency for the most part, 180 flip tricks not so much.

I always think trying harder bushings is a better solution than tightening trucks. Even if it is just a harder top bushing. My homie is on super loose Ace Trucks, which are really fun for surfing around but they definitely mess with the pop.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 27, 2022, 01:58:56 AM
Thanks lads, I will try tightening a thread (currently riding flush or even slightly below flush). I might go for a harder top bushing if that does not work. I feel like the Indy stock bushings are very soft. I recently put Bones soft bushings on my wife‘s set up and they actually turn less than the Indy stocks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on July 27, 2022, 04:47:33 AM
I was searching the forum for some info about the colored plys in the decks but didn't find enough info. Do they matter and is it better the board to have more of them? I have noticed that magenta decks have 2 colored plys (top and bottom) but polar, baker, dlx pro boards have 3 and they seem to hold up better. I am on my fisrt magenta deck now and it got chipped on the 3 session, a friend also chipped his deck on the first week and we skate mostly flat and ledges. These are all bbs pressed decks but how does the colored ply question stands for the other woodshops?  I would appreciated some more info about this? Greetings!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on July 27, 2022, 05:03:51 AM
colored plies are just plies that are colored period

Don't overthink it

there's a small chance you picked a weak board (can happen), there's a bigger chance you're the only one responsible for destroying your board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on July 27, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
I was searching the forum for some info about the colored plys in the decks but didn't find enough info. Do they matter and is it better the board to have more of them? I have noticed that magenta decks have 2 colored plys (top and bottom) but polar, baker, dlx pro boards have 3 and they seem to hold up better. I am on my fisrt magenta deck now and it got chipped on the 3 session, a friend also chipped his deck on the first week and we skate mostly flat and ledges. These are all bbs pressed decks but how does the colored ply question stands for the other woodshops?  I would appreciated some more info about this? Greetings!
I think BBS and some wood shops sell price point decks which will have less color plys. Maybe you got one of those.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on July 27, 2022, 05:10:45 AM
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I was searching the forum for some info about the colored plys in the decks but didn't find enough info. Do they matter and is it better the board to have more of them? I have noticed that magenta decks have 2 colored plys (top and bottom) but polar, baker, dlx pro boards have 3 and they seem to hold up better. I am on my fisrt magenta deck now and it got chipped on the 3 session, a friend also chipped his deck on the first week and we skate mostly flat and ledges. These are all bbs pressed decks but how does the colored ply question stands for the other woodshops?  I would appreciated some more info about this? Greetings!
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I think BBS and some wood shops sell price point decks which will have less color plys. Maybe you got one of those.

they are price point decks because they are made with a different wood / process
colored plies are just more expensive (not stronger or weaker)
1$ for each additional colored ply is the usual cost
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 27, 2022, 05:44:05 AM
According to the guy working when I got my first board the colours plys are special resins that make the board stronger. More coloured plys the better the board. I still just got a blank. Never trust someone with a goatee
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on July 27, 2022, 06:02:06 AM
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I was searching the forum for some info about the colored plys in the decks but didn't find enough info. Do they matter and is it better the board to have more of them? I have noticed that magenta decks have 2 colored plys (top and bottom) but polar, baker, dlx pro boards have 3 and they seem to hold up better. I am on my fisrt magenta deck now and it got chipped on the 3 session, a friend also chipped his deck on the first week and we skate mostly flat and ledges. These are all bbs pressed decks but how does the colored ply question stands for the other woodshops?  I would appreciated some more info about this? Greetings!
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I think BBS and some wood shops sell price point decks which will have less color plys. Maybe you got one of those.
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they are price point decks because they are made with a different wood / process
colored plies are just more expensive (not stronger or weaker)
1$ for each additional colored ply is the usual cost
Mine is a pro board on a regular price and i just wondered if this colored ply thing matters, coz i have hit my previous dlx and polar decks (with 3 colored plys) harder in ledges and walls and they held much better. It could also be that my current deck is from last years collection or just bad luck :)
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 27, 2022, 07:51:50 AM
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I was searching the forum for some info about the colored plys in the decks but didn't find enough info. Do they matter and is it better the board to have more of them? I have noticed that magenta decks have 2 colored plys (top and bottom) but polar, baker, dlx pro boards have 3 and they seem to hold up better. I am on my fisrt magenta deck now and it got chipped on the 3 session, a friend also chipped his deck on the first week and we skate mostly flat and ledges. These are all bbs pressed decks but how does the colored ply question stands for the other woodshops?  I would appreciated some more info about this? Greetings!
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I think BBS and some wood shops sell price point decks which will have less color plys. Maybe you got one of those.
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they are price point decks because they are made with a different wood / process
colored plies are just more expensive (not stronger or weaker)
1$ for each additional colored ply is the usual cost
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Mine is a pro board on a regular price and i just wondered if this colored ply thing matters, coz i have hit my previous dlx and polar decks (with 3 colored plys) harder in ledges and walls and they held much better. It could also be that my current deck is from last years collection or just bad luck :)


For some woodshops or even from some batches of boards, there was a specific quality of wood that was selected to be stained, even some better quality wood with certain colours which is what we often thought of the yellow and orange tops from DLX boards back in the day, but I think that has been almost completely overturned now as myth or just our own belief in how certain boards held up.  I still think a DLX / BBS yellow or orange top is always going to be better for me, no matter how long it lasts, but all the other different coloured tops I have had recently have also held up really well too.

Sure some woodshops still select better wood veneers to be top and bottom layers (which may or may not get stained) and other veneers with imperfections to be more in the middle layers and there is definitely a difference in feel of the "pro quality" decks compared to the "pricepoint quality" decks.


As BALARGUE said though, I think how a board chips is not so much down to the quality of the individual layers as to more just the luck of the way a board will land or impact things.  I have had some of the best boards run in to something at just the wrong angle and smash a nose or tail, as well as some of what I might consider the worst quality wood which seemed to go to mush still hold up round the edges better than some other boards, but I know this is not always the case.

Unlucky that a fairly new board of any brand gets some solid chips or chunks out, but Passport, Magenta and other BBS brands are usually pretty solid, same as DLX and Baker, etc.  I have still seen all of those end up in pieces in the first day or smashed from hitting something.


According to the guy working when I got my first board the colours plys are special resins that make the board stronger. More coloured plys the better the board. I still just got a blank. Never trust someone with a goatee


I remember other people often saying that to customers when I have been browsing in shops too, not so much recently, but definitely a while back.

When Dwindle came out with full seven stained ply layers on the Enjoi boards (rainbow ply) those things sold out super quickly from some shops, so I am sure it wasn't just because someone liked rainbows.

I don't think they lasted any differently than any other board, but hey there is always someone telling kids things they want to hear just so someone else can make a sale.

* For the record I have NEVER had a goatee either, but I know the sort of person well enough.  I wonder if there is often a guide to how to become that guy.  Glad I never read that one.





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Post by: yourbreakfsat on July 27, 2022, 08:26:13 AM
Dyed veneer being "stronger" is fully a placebo. I'd say it comes from the higher price and the fact that it looks way better than natural veneer.

Hell, if anything natural veneer should theoretically be better than dyed since veneers are literally submerged in water in order to fully dye them (according to how BBS does it).

https://youtu.be/pUbNQ1dLKGU?t=212

Later on they show that they dry the wood after the dyeing process, but if you think about it the dyed veneers are going through a lot in order to have the same integrity as their natural counterparts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 27, 2022, 08:26:15 AM
Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones

Well if you go too deep you’ll create stress risers and weaken the board. I just tighten them until the heads are flush with the grip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 27, 2022, 08:46:16 AM
Dyed veneer being "stronger" is fully a placebo. I'd say it comes from the higher price and the fact that it looks way better than natural veneer.

This is absolutely the case. It’s just a thing which is common on higher end boards, but it’s not what makes the board higher end. Nor does the color make any difference.

That said, I absolutely hate a skateboard deck without a dyed top and bottom ply.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on July 27, 2022, 09:11:46 AM
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Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones
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Well if you go too deep you’ll create stress risers and weaken the board. I just tighten them until the heads are flush with the grip.

This. Idk about you guys but my bolts tend to loosen up themselves anyways from slappys and transition
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 27, 2022, 10:06:23 AM
Chips have much more to do with the curing status of the wood and glue. I am guessing that price point wood tends to be older, drier plies, but I doubt that the decks are cured or glued any different.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on July 27, 2022, 10:28:47 AM
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Why don't people like sinking their bolts in?
I've only really seen it with older people (say 35+)and now younger people. (say 24 and under) who I assume are sort of mimicking the older people. Back when i watched 9club Crob would mention it sometimes. Personally I like them way sunken in I even turn a screwdriver in the hole a little bit first to take the edge off the wood. Having bolts sticking up may as well go back to the old dome style ones
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Well if you go too deep you’ll create stress risers and weaken the board. I just tighten them until the heads are flush with the grip.
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This. Idk about you guys but my bolts tend to loosen up themselves anyways from slappys and transition
When I said way deep I just meant 1mm below the griptape but the head is going into the wood a bit. I see people with those horrible massive head bolts sticking all the way out tho and don't know how they do it. And yeah the reason i do it is because my bolts always come loose I don't do too many slappys my theory is because my feet are bigger than the average persons so when they hang over the sides (which is always) it's more sideways stress and i tend to under rotate stomp and then lean on a lot of stuff
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on July 27, 2022, 05:26:02 PM
I just skated a Günes Magenta with no colored ply in the middle, and it was also trash.
Maybe different woodshop 'cause covid? Top and bottom were dark brown and I think it had the little dot/dent at the front holes.
It sure didn't feel like the bbs's I'm used to.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on July 27, 2022, 05:38:25 PM
I recall hearing that some of the brands through Theories resorted to pressing their wood through Clutch/ASF during the COVID related shortages resulting from supply chain issues.
Might’ve got one of those.
I don’t mind Clutch wood (one of my current set-ups is Clutch,) but given my preference, I’d stand on top of BBS.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 27, 2022, 10:41:22 PM
I just skated a Günes Magenta with no colored ply in the middle, and it was also trash.
Maybe different woodshop 'cause covid? Top and bottom were dark brown and I think it had the little dot/dent at the front holes.
It sure didn't feel like the bbs's I'm used to.


Still BBS but there have been a lot more questions about the quality of the average BBS deck since the pandemic too, so you guys are not alone in that regard.

Almost like they were pushing out too many and not having enough time to go through the full process, but that is all just what others have said before.

Curious though, to say the least.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on July 28, 2022, 01:38:16 AM
I also though that they could have used other woodshop because of the pandemic but there was a sticker made in mexico, that is typical for the bbs decks. I dunno what is it but the deck itself feels a bit softer than the bbs wood i am used to. I hope this years drops are better.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: braksabbath on July 28, 2022, 02:26:22 PM
Do the Adidas Nizza slip ons and low top lace have the same shape toe box? The slip on looks pointier
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 31, 2022, 06:38:59 AM
What size trucks did guys on 9+" eggs in the early 90s ride?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattchew on July 31, 2022, 06:56:52 AM
I’ve skated three Magenta’s, all pre covid and years apart from one another, and it pains me to say this as they’re one of my favorite brands, but their boards were easily some of the worst I’ve ever skated in 30 years.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 31, 2022, 09:13:41 AM
Why come that it takes me around 20 attempts to land a heelflip but the ones I land are mostly impeccable whereas I land almost every kickflip but most of them are ugly? How can I get heelflips consistently, I am despairing with this trick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on July 31, 2022, 09:24:37 AM
What size trucks did guys on 9+" eggs in the early 90s ride?

Mostly, our trucks that were narrower than the deck. Magic carpet was the name of the game. Check out old mags from that era. I never really thought about product that much back then but we were likely riding 149 equivalents, 159 at most.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on July 31, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
Why come that it takes me around 20 attempts to land a heelflip but the ones I land are mostly impeccable whereas I land almost every kickflip but most of them are ugly? How can I get heelflips consistently, I am despairing with this trick.

The trick tip section has some really talented posters, that can explain techniques lovely. I am not them.
Heelflips
Front foot perpendicular to the board toes hanging off, ball of foot to the edge of the deck, outside edge of the foot right below the front bolts.
Back foot, ball of foot in the heel side pocket, halfway ish up the tail.
Build tension diagonally before popping.
I look at the toe side pocket of the nose as I ollie.

I rarely mess with heelflips. I fuck with kickflips constantly. That I land heelflips at all makes me think I’m a natural heelflipper (not good at them at all mind you): why else would I be able to land heelflips, trying them some infrequently, and needing to warm up just so, have the planets in alignment for my oft practiced kickflips to come thru. Why. Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 31, 2022, 11:05:35 AM
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Why come that it takes me around 20 attempts to land a heelflip but the ones I land are mostly impeccable whereas I land almost every kickflip but most of them are ugly? How can I get heelflips consistently, I am despairing with this trick.
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The trick tip section has some really talented posters, that can explain techniques lovely. I am not them.
Heelflips
Front foot perpendicular to the board toes hanging off, ball of foot to the edge of the deck, outside edge of the foot right below the front bolts.
Back foot, ball of foot in the heel side pocket, halfway ish up the tail.
Build tension diagonally before popping.
I look at the toe side pocket of the nose as I ollie.

I rarely mess with heelflips. I fuck with kickflips constantly. That I land heelflips at all makes me think I’m a natural heelflipper (not good at them at all mind you): why else would I be able to land heelflips, trying them some infrequently, and needing to warm up just so, have the planets in alignment for my oft practiced kickflips to come thru. Why. Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyy

Have a gnar bruh. Back foot in the heel side pocket you say... sounds inconceivable but I'll give it a shot.
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Post by: FuzzGNU on July 31, 2022, 11:48:06 AM
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Why come that it takes me around 20 attempts to land a heelflip but the ones I land are mostly impeccable whereas I land almost every kickflip but most of them are ugly? How can I get heelflips consistently, I am despairing with this trick.
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The trick tip section has some really talented posters, that can explain techniques lovely. I am not them.
Heelflips
Front foot perpendicular to the board toes hanging off, ball of foot to the edge of the deck, outside edge of the foot right below the front bolts.
Back foot, ball of foot in the heel side pocket, halfway ish up the tail.
Build tension diagonally before popping.
I look at the toe side pocket of the nose as I ollie.

I rarely mess with heelflips. I fuck with kickflips constantly. That I land heelflips at all makes me think I’m a natural heelflipper (not good at them at all mind you): why else would I be able to land heelflips, trying them some infrequently, and needing to warm up just so, have the planets in alignment for my oft practiced kickflips to come thru. Why. Whhhhyyyyyyyyyyy
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Have a gnar bruh. Back foot in the heel side pocket you say... sounds inconceivable but I'll give it a shot.

Yeah that back foot position is the truth. You're almost making the board start to do a kickflip rotation (purely with that back foot positioning) to give your front foot some leverage to work with to spin it the other direction.

That's always my first tip... if it's still not working out my second tip is also for the back foot.

You know how you scoop the back tail for a pop-shuvit? Do like a small fraction of that scoop with your back foot (not enough for it to actually spin). It will keep the heelflip in position to land.

Hope that helps! Heelflips are shockingly a lot about mastering the back foot for me personally.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 31, 2022, 12:17:28 PM
I’ve skated three Magenta’s, all pre covid and years apart from one another, and it pains me to say this as they’re one of my favorite brands, but their boards were easily some of the worst I’ve ever skated in 30 years.

Every Magenta I've had has sucked as well. I don't get it since it's the same shapes as other brands I like but I had their 8.4 and it was perhaps the worst feeling deck I can remember having. Just soggy from the start, flat, even sounded waterlogged. This was before Covid.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on August 01, 2022, 02:40:44 PM
Anyone have any idea how to improve the pop on a setup that feels harder to pop than others? Is this something that risers can work for? Or is it possible that I have a truck/deck combo that is just going to kill my pop no matter what?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 01, 2022, 04:32:00 PM
Anyone have any idea how to improve the pop on a setup that feels harder to pop than others? Is this something that risers can work for? Or is it possible that I have a truck/deck combo that is just going to kill my pop no matter what?
when you say harder to pop, do you mean that the tail feels heavy? (people tend to compare venture to indy; venture has a heavier pop feel & indy has a lighter pop feel). Risers would only make your pop feel even heavier since it would take more time for your tail to hit the ground. your possible solutions would be either to run smaller wheels, get hollow trucks, or keep your current truck/wheel combo and avoid the current deck/brand that's making it hard for you to pop
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 01, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
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Anyone have any idea how to improve the pop on a setup that feels harder to pop than others? Is this something that risers can work for? Or is it possible that I have a truck/deck combo that is just going to kill my pop no matter what?
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when you say harder to pop, do you mean that the tail feels heavy? (people tend to compare venture to indy; venture has a heavier pop feel & indy has a lighter pop feel). Risers would only make your pop feel even heavier since it would take more time for your tail to hit the ground. your possible solutions would be either to run smaller wheels, get hollow trucks, or keep your current truck/wheel combo and avoid the current deck/brand that's making it hard for you to pop


It is usually the deck to truck ratio, mainly looking at the deck and where the deck bolt holes were drilled in relation to the kicks, so if they are too far into the kicks, everything is going to get really hard to pop, too much into the middle and the board is going to feel really light and almost too little pressure on the tail to make it do things.

Where the trucks come into this is where they offset the wheelbase, so a shorter wheelbase truck like Ace might make that board easier to skate, than say Ventures which extend the wheelbase the most.  Changing trucks alone may or may not help this at all, but if you are at all familiar with the "fingers of flat" method of PS Stix / Paul Schmitt, there is a direct relation between the ideal amount of space (about two fingers) from the deck bolt holes to the kick.  Too much and it will get really light, too little and it will get really heavy on not only the pop but on manuals and things like that too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on August 01, 2022, 10:01:00 PM
anyone have some experience with 5boro decks, specifically curious what their shapes are like & if they happen to all be steep/mellow, full or what-have you. i like south central wood, so maybe it's just more of the same??
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on August 01, 2022, 11:49:55 PM
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when you say harder to pop, do you mean that the tail feels heavy? (people tend to compare venture to indy; venture has a heavier pop feel & indy has a lighter pop feel). Risers would only make your pop feel even heavier since it would take more time for your tail to hit the ground. your possible solutions would be either to run smaller wheels, get hollow trucks, or keep your current truck/wheel combo and avoid the current deck/brand that's making it hard for you to pop
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It is usually the deck to truck ratio, mainly looking at the deck and where the deck bolt holes were drilled in relation to the kicks, so if they are too far into the kicks, everything is going to get really hard to pop, too much into the middle and the board is going to feel really light and almost too little pressure on the tail to make it do things.

Where the trucks come into this is where they offset the wheelbase, so a shorter wheelbase truck like Ace might make that board easier to skate, than say Ventures which extend the wheelbase the most.  Changing trucks alone may or may not help this at all, but if you are at all familiar with the "fingers of flat" method of PS Stix / Paul Schmitt, there is a direct relation between the ideal amount of space (about two fingers) from the deck bolt holes to the kick.  Too much and it will get really light, too little and it will get really heavy on not only the pop but on manuals and things like that too.

Yes to all of this.

I like a hefty pop feel and I skate Aces. With some decks no risers and 54 mm wheels it works fine but not always. Right now I’m skating a 8.75” Antihero and I didn’t like how it popped at all without risers with 54 mm wheels. I added 1/8” risers and it’s much better. Would probably like it even better with 56 or 58 mm wheels.

Going the other direction without changing trucks can be difficult if you already have small wheels and don’t use risers. I still have a set of Ace magnesium baseplates for boards that require that. Thankfully those don’t come up too often for me.

I still haven’t figured out how exactly assess how the deck would work & feel for me before setting it up. Too many variables: wheelbase, kick angles, fingers of flat…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Allen. on August 02, 2022, 12:28:06 AM
Whatever happened to Steven Reeves
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on August 02, 2022, 06:43:39 AM
anybody knows how long the carpet atiba 8.0 deck is? is it under 32? my girlfriend wants it but she's tiny so idk if it would work for her.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on August 02, 2022, 07:32:26 AM
anybody knows how long the carpet atiba 8.0 deck is? is it under 32? my girlfriend wants it but she's tiny so idk if it would work for her.

i wanna say it's 31.75?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on August 03, 2022, 09:03:50 AM
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Anyone have any idea how to improve the pop on a setup that feels harder to pop than others? Is this something that risers can work for? Or is it possible that I have a truck/deck combo that is just going to kill my pop no matter what?
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when you say harder to pop, do you mean that the tail feels heavy? (people tend to compare venture to indy; venture has a heavier pop feel & indy has a lighter pop feel). Risers would only make your pop feel even heavier since it would take more time for your tail to hit the ground. your possible solutions would be either to run smaller wheels, get hollow trucks, or keep your current truck/wheel combo and avoid the current deck/brand that's making it hard for you to pop
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It is usually the deck to truck ratio, mainly looking at the deck and where the deck bolt holes were drilled in relation to the kicks, so if they are too far into the kicks, everything is going to get really hard to pop, too much into the middle and the board is going to feel really light and almost too little pressure on the tail to make it do things.

Where the trucks come into this is where they offset the wheelbase, so a shorter wheelbase truck like Ace might make that board easier to skate, than say Ventures which extend the wheelbase the most.  Changing trucks alone may or may not help this at all, but if you are at all familiar with the "fingers of flat" method of PS Stix / Paul Schmitt, there is a direct relation between the ideal amount of space (about two fingers) from the deck bolt holes to the kick.  Too much and it will get really light, too little and it will get really heavy on not only the pop but on manuals and things like that too.
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Yes to all of this.

I like a hefty pop feel and I skate Aces. With some decks no risers and 54 mm wheels it works fine but not always. Right now I’m skating a 8.75” Antihero and I didn’t like how it popped at all without risers with 54 mm wheels. I added 1/8” risers and it’s much better. Would probably like it even better with 56 or 58 mm wheels.

Going the other direction without changing trucks can be difficult if you already have small wheels and don’t use risers. I still have a set of Ace magnesium baseplates for boards that require that. Thankfully those don’t come up too often for me.

I still haven’t figured out how exactly assess how the deck would work & feel for me before setting it up. Too many variables: wheelbase, kick angles, fingers of flat…

I assumed it was a geo problem which is why I asked about risers - never been sure if having the tail higher off the ground improved pop vs. lower to the ground, but I guess it all depends on the setup and varies greatly. Riding a Fancy Lad deck with short wb and short length with Film trucks right now and probably around 53mm Spits, was kind of a random setup I made out of shit my friend gave me, but I had one really great session on it where I was flinging flip tricks way easier than normal - next couple sessions after felt really off - hard to control (probably short wb problem) and felt really hard to get up in the air onto higher ledges with.

I'll check out the Schmitt thing next time I have it on hand, but might go ahead and just experiment with risers or different trucks to see if I can get back the magic of that first session, otherwise I'll just go back to my old setup.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 03, 2022, 09:07:32 AM
I avoid drastic switches in gear for this reason I often have some weird anomaly session where I'm mostly mentally excited and have muscle memory from my old one then in 3 sessions that usually has subsided and I'm like WTF and find a bunch of shit I can't do.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 03, 2022, 09:19:28 AM
Yo 90s guys what was the deal with the longboards in the mid 90s? Not like a sector 9 just a regular board that was 35 long or something. I think Fred gall skates one in timecode but it's kinda hard to tell. Was it just a dumb fad? (I'm guessing yes because it never came back) https://youtu.be/uSrKrJfPsI0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 03, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
anyone have some experience with 5boro decks, specifically curious what their shapes are like & if they happen to all be steep/mellow, full or what-have you. i like south central wood, so maybe it's just more of the same??

I love them. I’d say they’re medium through the middle, probably medium-steep kicks, too. The nose and tail feel very roomy and comfortable in terms of size, but the shape is more round than full or square. I ride the 8.25 often.

The Shred Shape is fun, too. Like a more compact Loveseat.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 03, 2022, 09:58:50 AM
Yo 90s guys what was the deal with the longboards in the mid 90s? Not like a sector 9 just a regular board that was 35 long or something. I think Fred gall skates one in timecode but it's kinda hard to tell. Was it just a dumb fad? (I'm guessing yes because it never came back) https://youtu.be/uSrKrJfPsI0

I never saw a 35" long board but if so it was a cruiser. I remember buying the biggest deck I could find once which was an 8.25 Toy Machine fists deck that I don't think was over 32.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on August 03, 2022, 10:23:30 AM
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Anyone have any idea how to improve the pop on a setup that feels harder to pop than others? Is this something that risers can work for? Or is it possible that I have a truck/deck combo that is just going to kill my pop no matter what?
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when you say harder to pop, do you mean that the tail feels heavy? (people tend to compare venture to indy; venture has a heavier pop feel & indy has a lighter pop feel). Risers would only make your pop feel even heavier since it would take more time for your tail to hit the ground. your possible solutions would be either to run smaller wheels, get hollow trucks, or keep your current truck/wheel combo and avoid the current deck/brand that's making it hard for you to pop
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It is usually the deck to truck ratio, mainly looking at the deck and where the deck bolt holes were drilled in relation to the kicks, so if they are too far into the kicks, everything is going to get really hard to pop, too much into the middle and the board is going to feel really light and almost too little pressure on the tail to make it do things.

Where the trucks come into this is where they offset the wheelbase, so a shorter wheelbase truck like Ace might make that board easier to skate, than say Ventures which extend the wheelbase the most.  Changing trucks alone may or may not help this at all, but if you are at all familiar with the "fingers of flat" method of PS Stix / Paul Schmitt, there is a direct relation between the ideal amount of space (about two fingers) from the deck bolt holes to the kick.  Too much and it will get really light, too little and it will get really heavy on not only the pop but on manuals and things like that too.
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Yes to all of this.

I like a hefty pop feel and I skate Aces. With some decks no risers and 54 mm wheels it works fine but not always. Right now I’m skating a 8.75” Antihero and I didn’t like how it popped at all without risers with 54 mm wheels. I added 1/8” risers and it’s much better. Would probably like it even better with 56 or 58 mm wheels.

Going the other direction without changing trucks can be difficult if you already have small wheels and don’t use risers. I still have a set of Ace magnesium baseplates for boards that require that. Thankfully those don’t come up too often for me.

I still haven’t figured out how exactly assess how the deck would work & feel for me before setting it up. Too many variables: wheelbase, kick angles, fingers of flat…
[close]

I assumed it was a geo problem which is why I asked about risers - never been sure if having the tail higher off the ground improved pop vs. lower to the ground, but I guess it all depends on the setup and varies greatly. Riding a Fancy Lad deck with short wb and short length with Film trucks right now and probably around 53mm Spits, was kind of a random setup I made out of shit my friend gave me, but I had one really great session on it where I was flinging flip tricks way easier than normal - next couple sessions after felt really off - hard to control (probably short wb problem) and felt really hard to get up in the air onto higher ledges with.

I'll check out the Schmitt thing next time I have it on hand, but might go ahead and just experiment with risers or different trucks to see if I can get back the magic of that first session, otherwise I'll just go back to my old setup.

That sounds like it isn't actually hard to pop, but too easy to pop. Risers will help in this case
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on August 03, 2022, 10:41:08 AM
Since Primitive just dumped most of their stock of Franky boards does that mean his gonna leave Primitive to ride for Brick Underneath Skateboards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on August 03, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
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anyone have some experience with 5boro decks, specifically curious what their shapes are like & if they happen to all be steep/mellow, full or what-have you. i like south central wood, so maybe it's just more of the same??
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I love them. I’d say they’re medium through the middle, probably medium-steep kicks, too. The nose and tail feel very roomy and comfortable in terms of size, but the shape is more round than full or square. I ride the 8.25 often.

The Shred Shape is fun, too. Like a more compact Loveseat.

rad,  thanks for the tip on the shred too

Yo 90s guys what was the deal with the longboards in the mid 90s? Not like a sector 9 just a regular board that was 35 long or something. I think Fred gall skates one in timecode but it's kinda hard to tell. Was it just a dumb fad? (I'm guessing yes because it never came back) https://youtu.be/uSrKrJfPsI0

fred might be a special case, i wanna say its in his bobshirt interview that he mentions he did a bunch of psychedelics and ended up on a long ass board for a hot minute before having to size down during a comp or somethin? he didnt seem to imply its what others were doing at the time, but im workposting so i dont have the vid handy
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 04, 2022, 03:26:40 AM
I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on August 04, 2022, 03:39:22 AM
Dwindle brands fingers of flat:
How do dwindle brands fingers of flat run? Are they consistent across the brands? How many fingers of flat do they have?

I like the single press idea and they do publish whether the kicks are mellow or steep for many of their boards but it doesn't look like they publish any info about the fingers of flat.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 04, 2022, 03:46:42 AM
I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
https://youtu.be/adYrtMpbVCo this is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins. https://youtu.be/91OahmsJVog (soz in advance if these vids are chat, I just skimmed the first ones that showed the ramps I'm thinking of) altho I think some places also go over the top with parks with too many little features and that's alsonot always as fun as just a regular functional ramp
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 04, 2022, 03:54:42 AM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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https://youtu.be/adYrtMpbVCo this is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 04, 2022, 04:18:07 AM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
[close]
https://youtu.be/adYrtMpbVCo this is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
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Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low
I think that might be the upgraded concrete ramp (altho they said wood?) Altho I think even that is higher than 2.8 feet. But I'll be honest I don't tend to think in feet I remember the coping being around chest high when your on the flstbottom. https://youtu.be/yCcvwicw7qE at 1:30 looks kinda similar altho never been there
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on August 04, 2022, 05:35:08 AM
I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.

Thrasher put out plans for the perfect mini ramp, and that’s apparently what the locals here in Japan used to make the minis at the indoor park I go to.

And they really nailed the golden radius

You might be able to find them online with some searching
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 04, 2022, 07:16:43 AM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
[close]

Thrasher put out plans for the perfect mini ramp, and that’s apparently what the locals here in Jaoaj used to make the minis at the indoor park I go to.

And they really nailed the golden radius

You might be able to find them online with some searching
Great tip man , thanks alot
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 04, 2022, 07:27:26 AM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
[close]
https://youtu.be/adYrtMpbVCo this is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
[close]
Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low
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I think that might be the upgraded concrete ramp (altho they said wood?) Altho I think even that is higher than 2.8 feet. But I'll be honest I don't tend to think in feet I remember the coping being around chest high when your on the flstbottom. https://youtu.be/yCcvwicw7qE at 1:30 looks kinda similar altho never been there
Wood because it seems to be cheaper but I'm not so pleased with the idea. I don't know a wooden ramp that survived more than 5-6 years in the open .
The other thing is I have to plan this together with alot of skate dad's that don't skate by them self's but the little once do.. the want a "bowl" too. With a deepend of 135 cm ::) 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on August 04, 2022, 07:30:29 AM
I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.

I had a discussion about this recently. The consensus was 3-4' tall with transition radius that are 2x the height so 6-8'. 7 to 7.5' flat bottom.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 04, 2022, 12:33:20 PM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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I had a discussion about this recently. The consensus was 3-4' tall with transition radius that are 2x the height so 6-8'. 7 to 7.5' flat bottom.
Nice, thanks for that.
Did you build a ramp like this or do you have some kind of picture maybe?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on August 04, 2022, 01:55:40 PM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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I had a discussion about this recently. The consensus was 3-4' tall with transition radius that are 2x the height so 6-8'. 7 to 7.5' flat bottom.
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Nice, thanks for that.
Did you build a ramp like this or do you have some kind of picture maybe?
No. It was just the results of discussing which ramps around the area are better than others and why.

There are a couple that were obviously built by construction guys with no clue about skating. 4ft radius, 4 ft of flat and about 2ft high. And crappy quality concrete. Wavy pours on the transitions. Very hard to skate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on August 04, 2022, 09:59:59 PM
Dwindle brands fingers of flat:
How do dwindle brands fingers of flat run? Are they consistent across the brands? How many fingers of flat do they have?

I like the single press idea and they do publish whether the kicks are mellow or steep for many of their boards but it doesn't look like they publish any info about the fingers of flat.


I feel like this has been asked before and the reply was that no company really outlines information on the amount of flat from bolts to kick, or as per PS Stix / Professor Schmitt, the "fingers of flat" but as far as most Dwindle boards, there is usually a moderate amount, which works well with their shapes, lengths and wheelbases.

Dwindle boards now seem to have mostly 14.25 wb on the 8.25 to 8.5 sized decks, which vary between 31.8 to 32.2 in length, or at least all the boards I have seen and had a stand on as well as other people's boards I have had a go on.

Overall they have a lot of stiffness and the concave and kicks are often a bit steeper on average than other brands, but after all that, it often comes down to which trucks you run and your own muscle memory too.

At least that is a start, but feel free to ask any more too, as needed.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2022, 10:12:28 PM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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This is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
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Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low


I think the old Fernside / Waterloo ramp was 3.5 in the middle and 4.5 or so on the extension, but it has been too long since skating it anyway.

Measure heights of things, so 3 feet is just over waist high (90 cms) and 5 ft is about chest / shoulder high (150 cms) which could definitely work for everyone, with 6 ft being over head height for some people.

Overall width is the main thing.  Having a ramp that is not wide enough is a real pain, but having something that is proportional to the height and allows good lines is also something worth considering.

I think having the middle fairly wide with matching extensions on facing ends, one end taller or different to the other end, can really work, like a lop sided H shape, so middle 3 ft, one set of extensions at one end being 4 ft high, then the other set of extensions being 5 ft, so you can skate a 3 ft halfpipe, a 4 ft halfpipe or a 5 ft half pipe, or use the extensions to get a lot of speed to grind or slide across the lower middle section.

This is what I built in a shed and has been amazing fun.  My ramp is on the lower side, just to fit it in and be proportional to the shed dimensions.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on August 04, 2022, 10:25:10 PM
Is it normal that I have to rethread the axles every time I take of the wheels, e.g. for cleaning bearings?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2022, 10:53:18 PM
Is it normal that I have to rethread the axles every time I take of the wheels, e.g. for cleaning bearings?


I guess it comes down to how many washers you have (or don't have) and where the nut sits on the axle, but also how much your axles get smashed when you skate.  If the axle nuts are in even half a thread the axle ends are definitely going to get more wear and need attention.

Personal preference, but I have two or three on the inside of each wheel and none on the outside between wheel and axle nut, nuts flush with axle ends and don't have any issues, but I had definitely had problems in the past when I had lost washers and didn't realise.  I do know some people who don't like washers at all and their axles are often so messed up any time they need to do something like change wheels or whatever that sometimes I almost give up trying to help them with washers and rethreading their axles, as well as new axle nuts every time.

One on each side, two on the inside or even three washers on each axle (however you want to configure them) and axle nuts flush on the ends pretty much prevent almost all axle wear issues, but if you are skating hard and always smashing those axle ends into the ground or other things, they will have more wear than others.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: klobynrenn on August 05, 2022, 05:25:35 AM
Cutting the tongue centring straps on shoes - yay or nay? Got a couple pairs of NBs that are slightly too snug for my wide feet so was considering cutting out the elastic straps, but wasn’t sure if the results would be negligible. Also considered only cutting halfway through each strap in the hope it’d provide a bit more room without causing the tongue to slip around but again, don’t know if that would really make much difference
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 05, 2022, 07:05:46 AM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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This is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
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Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low
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I think the old Fernside / Waterloo ramp was 3.5 in the middle and 4.5 or so on the extension, but it has been too long since skating it anyway.

Measure heights of things, so 3 feet is just over waist high (90 cms) and 5 ft is about chest / shoulder high (150 cms) which could definitely work for everyone, with 6 ft being over head height for some people.

Overall width is the main thing.  Having a ramp that is not wide enough is a real pain, but having something that is proportional to the height and allows good lines is also something worth considering.

I think having the middle fairly wide with matching extensions on facing ends, one end taller or different to the other end, can really work, like a lop sided H shape, so middle 3 ft, one set of extensions at one end being 4 ft high, then the other set of extensions being 5 ft, so you can skate a 3 ft halfpipe, a 4 ft halfpipe or a 5 ft half pipe, or use the extensions to get a lot of speed to grind or slide across the lower middle section.

This is what I built in a shed and has been amazing fun.  My ramp is on the lower side, just to fit it in and be proportional to the shed dimensions.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/
Thanks so much man, Amazing info and i really like your ramp.  Can I use your pic as an example to show the other guys ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 05, 2022, 07:36:55 PM
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I know it's not really shoes and gear but..
What would be good specs for a mini ramp ?
With good i mean, good for beginners but also for advanced skaters.
We managed to get the city to build a new park in my town.
They give us 650K €. At the moment we are planing everything and i think the park would benefit from a mini ramp.
Maybe with some extensions.
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This is at Waterloo/Fernside Sydney. I loved this ramp I think it was about 4-5 feet high. Was enjoyed by beginners and skilled skaters. Has since been updated as a concrete ramp, but I'm assuming it's considerably more expensive. I think a bit of a trap people fall for is thinking catering to beginners means making tiny parks but usually they fucking suck and are barely fun for more than ten mins.
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Looks kinda perfect. I just got an email from the company that builds the park.
They think about a mini out of wood, 32 feet wide , 2,8 feet high with 2 extensions of 5 feet high..
Sounds kinda to low
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I think the old Fernside / Waterloo ramp was 3.5 in the middle and 4.5 or so on the extension, but it has been too long since skating it anyway.

Measure heights of things, so 3 feet is just over waist high (90 cms) and 5 ft is about chest / shoulder high (150 cms) which could definitely work for everyone, with 6 ft being over head height for some people.

Overall width is the main thing.  Having a ramp that is not wide enough is a real pain, but having something that is proportional to the height and allows good lines is also something worth considering.

I think having the middle fairly wide with matching extensions on facing ends, one end taller or different to the other end, can really work, like a lop sided H shape, so middle 3 ft, one set of extensions at one end being 4 ft high, then the other set of extensions being 5 ft, so you can skate a 3 ft halfpipe, a 4 ft halfpipe or a 5 ft half pipe, or use the extensions to get a lot of speed to grind or slide across the lower middle section.

This is what I built in a shed and has been amazing fun.  My ramp is on the lower side, just to fit it in and be proportional to the shed dimensions.


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Thanks so much man, Amazing info and i really like your ramp.  Can I use your pic as an example to show the other guys ?


Yes, easy.   

Anything I put up is open to whatever.  I mainly do it to help others, give info, etc.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 07, 2022, 05:17:23 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 07, 2022, 05:27:13 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
Never had a skate shoe that was actually that breathable even if that was one of its selling points so my trick was always stab everywhere that's not in a high wear area with an exacto knife a bunch of times and make sure your holes go all the way thru. Or if you have chisels get one that's a kinda acute angle stab and twist so you get a little circle hole. Got me thru some Aus summers. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 07, 2022, 06:16:01 AM
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What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
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Never had a skate shoe that was actually that breathable even if that was one of its selling points so my trick was always stab everywhere that's not in a high wear area with an exacto knife a bunch of times and make sure your holes go all the way thru. Or if you have chisels get one that's a kinda acute angle stab and twist so you get a little circle hole. Got me thru some Aus summers.
Gonna try this. Never thought about it but makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on August 07, 2022, 06:30:14 AM
Yo 90s guys what was the deal with the longboards in the mid 90s? Not like a sector 9 just a regular board that was 35 long or something. I think Fred gall skates one in timecode but it's kinda hard to tell. Was it just a dumb fad? (I'm guessing yes because it never came back) https://youtu.be/uSrKrJfPsI0

I was too young and midwestern to know what was going on, but one time I needed a new deck and my mom took me to the skate shop to buy the cheapest thing they had, which turned out to be a Consolidated deck on closeout. This thing was a fucking longboard, easily 1.5"-2" longer than my friends' standard 7.75" decks they were skating. It may have even been an Alan Peterson pro model. Either way, it was a fucking boat and I hated it.

Also, did Timecode always look that shitty? That's gotta be one of the most unwatchable video parts I've seen which wasn't fourth-generation VHS dub. I could barely make out anything.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 07, 2022, 07:44:46 AM
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What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
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Never had a skate shoe that was actually that breathable even if that was one of its selling points so my trick was always stab everywhere that's not in a high wear area with an exacto knife a bunch of times and make sure your holes go all the way thru. Or if you have chisels get one that's a kinda acute angle stab and twist so you get a little circle hole. Got me thru some Aus summers.
So I just used a Drill . Pretty quick solution. Made a few 6mm holes on all non wear areas. The drillbit is a mess now but I used an old one so..
Thanks .
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 07, 2022, 09:48:02 AM
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Yo 90s guys what was the deal with the longboards in the mid 90s? Not like a sector 9 just a regular board that was 35 long or something. I think Fred gall skates one in timecode but it's kinda hard to tell. Was it just a dumb fad? (I'm guessing yes because it never came back) https://youtu.be/uSrKrJfPsI0
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I was too young and midwestern to know what was going on, but one time I needed a new deck and my mom took me to the skate shop to buy the cheapest thing they had, which turned out to be a Consolidated deck on closeout. This thing was a fucking longboard, easily 1.5"-2" longer than my friends' standard 7.75" decks they were skating. It may have even been an Alan Peterson pro model. Either way, it was a fucking boat and I hated it.

Also, did Timecode always look that shitty? That's gotta be one of the most unwatchable video parts I've seen which wasn't fourth-generation VHS dub. I could barely make out anything.
Alien uploaded the whole timecode video pretty recently but it still doesn't look nice. If anyone had access to a good copy you'd think they would so maybe it never looked good. I only watch Fred and Lennie's parts anyway.
https://youtu.be/AA6qRPWTtb4
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on August 07, 2022, 09:53:46 AM
Does independent have a drop cycle? I'm interested in titaniums and my shops dont have 149s and I can't find em on parade or SPOT or my go to's. I don't need em right now I'm just wondering if NHS has a schedule. Should I email them

edit: Or alternatively could I ask KCDC or Labor to order them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doomstation55 on August 07, 2022, 10:06:32 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.

I find my Puigs pretty breathable, not sure about the newest drop though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on August 07, 2022, 10:52:33 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
Sounds like we’ve got a hotstepper on our hands, boys!
https://youtu.be/w0N4twV28Mw
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on August 07, 2022, 12:07:47 PM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.

Tiago 1010 mesh toe versions. Toe and all the way up the tongue is breathable mesh. Anyone remember how breathable the Nike SB tre was?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 07, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
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What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
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Sounds like we’ve got a hotstepper on our hands, boys!
https://youtu.be/w0N4twV28Mw
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNzOl5yYgHQ2LHG8XoadUJbPOkySjjE8C (https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNzOl5yYgHQ2LHG8XoadUJbPOkySjjE8C)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 07, 2022, 12:25:56 PM
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What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
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Tiago 1010 mesh toe versions. Toe and all the way up the tongue is breathable mesh. Anyone remember how breathable the Nike SB tre was?
Nice, looks promising !
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/LtBb2TJXsHuAp8JmougDGgdh8zo=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/154371-0-NewBalanceNumeric-1010TiagoLemos.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on August 07, 2022, 12:35:09 PM
The new Ishod looks meshy, my wife ordered some but they were too large for her but there weren‘t any smaller ones available.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 07, 2022, 06:11:50 PM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.


Is it more in the shoe, or more in the type of material of sock you have on?

I have found it is better to have the thicker cotton rich socks from bulk packs than anything with a higher synthetic or acrylic mix, so none of the usual skate brands and more of the department store socks, but even some of those ones are now changing and going for more synthetic mixes.

Just a thought anyway.


Also curious how the bigger holes work out in your normal shoes too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on August 08, 2022, 12:37:12 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.

aves
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 08, 2022, 04:47:49 AM
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What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
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Is it more in the shoe, or more in the type of material of sock you have on?

I have found it is better to have the thicker cotton rich socks from bulk packs than anything with a higher synthetic or acrylic mix, so none of the usual skate brands and more of the department store socks, but even some of those ones are now changing and going for more synthetic mixes.

Just a thought anyway.


Also curious how the bigger holes work out in your normal shoes too.
My socks are mostly cotton rich because I had problems with athlete's foot last year. My thinner socks are bamboo socks. Pretty thin so not really the best choice for sakting.
But they are very breathable. I wear them for hiking and stuff. No problems with hiking shoes. I use the Adidas Terrex Skychasers there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on August 08, 2022, 06:07:00 AM
Does truck width affect turn radius? Will wider trucks turn smaller or larger circles compared to more narrow trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on August 08, 2022, 07:32:53 AM
Does truck width affect turn radius? Will wider trucks turn smaller or larger circles compared to more narrow trucks?

Absolutely, narrow trucks lead to a smaller circle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on August 10, 2022, 07:04:35 AM
Has anyone ever tried to make a deck steeper?
I know you can park your car on it to mellow it out, but could you do the same thing in the opposite direction?
It has to be possible, but I'm not sure how to do it without basically bending the whole deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 11, 2022, 01:03:24 AM
Has anyone ever tried to make a deck steeper?
I know you can park your car on it to mellow it out, but could you do the same thing in the opposite direction?
It has to be possible, but I'm not sure how to do it without basically bending the whole deck.


I feel like there would be a lot more opportunity to "flex out" a deck, which is pretty much what I do when I park on it and make it more mellow, compared to try to make a kick steeper.

I think the option to park on it with warm or hot tyres would have more chance to have any effect, but if you used some sort of wedge and had the board graphic down, fixed it in place with something and put enough pressure on it over the bolts area, you might get it to bend the other way, but I feel like it wouldn't really work, compared to when I park on it graphic side up, wheel right on the back bolts area.

Boards with stiffer constructions (Dwindle and some others) will crack or even break more often than others like BBS, which flex really well for me, so just bear that in mind too.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on August 12, 2022, 02:27:37 PM
Is there a directory (like the woodshop one) of companies and their involvement in skateboarding? Like are they owned by a skateboarder or do they just sell to skateboarders.

I much rather buy a t-shirt from an old pro's company instead of some artist. Just because your skate shop sells the stuff doesn't mean they're skate related.

I was about to buy a t-shirt that said Pleasures on it but all I could find out about the company is that they were out of LA, so I didn't buy it. Any help would be much appreciated
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 13, 2022, 05:28:47 PM
How did of come about? What’s the origin of of?
Full story please.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on August 13, 2022, 06:01:11 PM
How did of come about? What’s the origin of of?
Full story please.
Someone created a new topic and messed up spelling “Gino Off Chocolate”. They wrote “Gino Of Chocolate”. It’s stuck around ever since. That’s pretty much it



What was the Adidas shoe that was a mid-top with a strap that people were skating in the mid 2000’s before the launch of Adidas Skateboarding? Was it the Pro-Shell? Pics of the last release of that shoe don’t look to be the same

As seen 2:37-2:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJVuwdzI0A&t=4s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 13, 2022, 06:48:13 PM
Are the new bones wheels any good?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 13, 2022, 08:39:51 PM
I watched Ben Degros review the Blazers and he noted that the flick is better than Vans due to less foxing. The GT now have a higher foxing tape so was this/is this true with the Blazer lows? Or is this just BS?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 13, 2022, 09:01:22 PM
@tom thanks. I kinda figured but ya never know until you ask.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on August 14, 2022, 12:46:27 AM
What's the most breathable cupsole shoe ?
I'm really struggling with hot feet and its shortening my sessions a good amount.
I'm running the Joslin 1 atm. Basically because they advertise a cooling effect with the new tong. But my feet are burning in them, even with thin socks.
Late to the party but Vans Wayvee might be the shoe you're looking for
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FatGuy92 on August 14, 2022, 12:57:16 AM
Does independent have a drop cycle? I'm interested in titaniums and my shops dont have 149s and I can't find em on parade or SPOT or my go to's. I don't need em right now I'm just wondering if NHS has a schedule. Should I email them

edit: Or alternatively could I ask KCDC or Labor to order them

Kinda late reply, but I actually spoke to my local about this specifically. According to the homie there, nobody that walks in buys titaniums and it makes more sense for them to just stock forged hollows. Even then, they sell standards way more than anything else. If you wanna support your local, have them order it. Otherwise, seems like Tactics and similar always has them in stock online.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 14, 2022, 04:10:56 AM
Been thinking about those theeve all titanium hanger trucks and how it could be improved so basically could this work?

Ok so titanium baseplate instead and the mounting holes are smaller and threaded, have nylon so your hardware goes straight into the baseplate and doesn't need a nut. Would the hardware be able to connect the truck to the deck strong enough without a nut? Might need titanium mounting bolts too.
Could also have built in kingpin or a similar system for an inverted kingpin (may also have to be titanium).
Now also perhaps the pivot of the hanger could be titanium too so you have a titanium pivot in a titanium pivot cup and would probably never really break either again, rubber pivot cup however might get worn out faster.
Not sure how well it could be done but have the theeve all titanium hanger but with aluminium where you grind.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 14, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Been thinking about those theeve all titanium hanger trucks and how it could be improved so basically could this work?

Ok so titanium baseplate instead and the mounting holes are smaller and threaded, have nylon so your hardware goes straight into the baseplate and doesn't need a nut. Would the hardware be able to connect the truck to the deck strong enough without a nut? Might need titanium mounting bolts too.
Could also have built in kingpin or a similar system for an inverted kingpin (may also have to be titanium).
Now also perhaps the pivot of the hanger could be titanium too so you have a titanium pivot in a titanium pivot cup and would probably never really break either again, rubber pivot cup however might get worn out faster.
Not sure how well it could be done but have the theeve all titanium hanger but with aluminium where you grind.

Titanium is lighter than steel so weight reduction for axle and kingpin is useful. However titanium is not lighter than aluminum so a forged aluminum baseplate is still much lighter than titanium.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 14, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
I’m pretty sure I went from the theeves to Thunder team TI’s and I don’t think the weight was much different.  I suspect getting the aluminum to bond with the Ti would be hard and as poorly as the truck grinded, they would have lasted forever…..

There’s a dude where I live who is obsessed with the g&s trucks and chromolly.  He’s made chromoly copers…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 14, 2022, 07:08:09 PM
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Been thinking about those theeve all titanium hanger trucks and how it could be improved so basically could this work?

Ok so titanium baseplate instead and the mounting holes are smaller and threaded, have nylon so your hardware goes straight into the baseplate and doesn't need a nut. Would the hardware be able to connect the truck to the deck strong enough without a nut? Might need titanium mounting bolts too.
Could also have built in kingpin or a similar system for an inverted kingpin (may also have to be titanium).
Now also perhaps the pivot of the hanger could be titanium too so you have a titanium pivot in a titanium pivot cup and would probably never really break either again, rubber pivot cup however might get worn out faster.
Not sure how well it could be done but have the theeve all titanium hanger but with aluminium where you grind.
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Titanium is lighter than steel so weight reduction for axle and kingpin is useful. However titanium is not lighter than aluminum so a forged aluminum baseplate is still much lighter than titanium.
I was thinking a little less about weight and mostly about strength for screwing the hardware straight into the baseplate and not needing a nut, holding an inverted kingpin tighter or having built in kingpin (which couldn't be aluminium) and and stronger in the walls of the pivot cup to avoid breakage.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doomstation55 on August 14, 2022, 07:20:21 PM
Anyone have the DC Bronze clocker II’s and know the sizing for it?

Haven’t had DCs in a long time and I’m kinda in between sizes, I can usually make 12s work for most shoes besides cons, but if they run big I could go down to 11.5.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on August 14, 2022, 07:36:52 PM
Anyone have the DC Bronze clocker II’s and know the sizing for it?

Haven’t had DCs in a long time and I’m kinda in between sizes, I can usually make 12s work for most shoes besides cons, but if they run big I could go down to 11.5.
@doomstation55
I am a 10.5 and ordered my regular size. They’re half a size too small. I also have some Metrics that I got in my usual size that are also half a size too small
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 14, 2022, 07:44:03 PM
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Anyone have the DC Bronze clocker II’s and know the sizing for it?

Haven’t had DCs in a long time and I’m kinda in between sizes, I can usually make 12s work for most shoes besides cons, but if they run big I could go down to 11.5.
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@doomstation55
I am a 10.5 and ordered my regular size. They’re half a size too small. I also have some Metrics that I got in my usual size that are also half a size too small
I think DC's thing is they always run a little small
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doomstation55 on August 14, 2022, 08:10:57 PM
Gotcha so I’ll probably stick with 12’s in this case, thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on August 16, 2022, 01:40:20 AM
could be slightly off topic but would it be possible to smoke out of a skateboard truck? it would look kind of cool i think
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 16, 2022, 04:48:11 AM
could be slightly off topic but would it be possible to smoke out of a skateboard truck? it would look kind of cool i think

It's definitely possible with hollow hangers.
But I doubt that's good for your lungs to inhale that extra metal of a truck ya know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 16, 2022, 06:32:06 AM
Has anyone skated something similar to the Keen Ramps Slappy Rail? I have extra wood and was thinking of building something like that for my house. I dunno if I'd ever actually slappy up it tho and that kind of construction is worth it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on August 16, 2022, 07:50:48 AM
could be slightly off topic but would it be possible to smoke out of a skateboard truck? it would look kind of cool i think

I've seen it on instagram. I don't it looks as cool as you think
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 16, 2022, 08:39:49 AM
Is a 60mm spitfire classic the same shape as og classic?


Asked a while back if it would fuck with people's madness more or less if everything was measured in mm with mixed responses. What if everything was measured still in inches but always written as an 8th e.g 8.125 is 8 1/8, 8.38 is 8 3/8 or does it have to go down to 16ths. (Part of my madness is wanting everything to be uniform)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on August 16, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
Is a 60mm spitfire classic the same shape as og classic?


Asked a while back if it would fuck with people's madness more or less if everything was measured in mm with mixed responses. What if everything was measured still in inches but always written as an 8th e.g 8.125 is 8 1/8, 8.38 is 8 3/8 or does it have to go down to 16ths. (Part of my madness is wanting everything to be uniform)

the f4s? nah
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 16, 2022, 12:05:45 PM
Might be a stupid question, but anyway..

My question is, will cupsole shoes mold to your feet after some time? Most vulc shoes seem to do that after a bit of wear.

I recently got some Emerica Gamma and just can't remember the last time I had a pair of cupsoles. Honestly I am not even sure I ever had cupsoles before.

The Gamma's are mad comfy and are not as bulky as I thought. I really hope these will be the shoes, that settle my shoe madness..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 16, 2022, 12:17:23 PM
Might be a stupid question, but anyway..

My question is, will cupsole shoes will mold to your feet after some time? Most vulc shoes seem to do that after a bit of wear.

I recently got some Emerica Gamma and just can't remember the last time I had a pair of cupsoles. Honestly I am not even sure I ever had cupsoles before.

The Gamma's are mad comfy and are not as bulky as I thought. I really hope these will be the shoes, that settle my shoe madness..
There's a lot more to it than cup vs vulc like how the shoes are constructed etc. I think the gamma tho are basically just a rubber sole with a padded midsole but no hollow grid so prob be about the same as a standard vulc with thick insole.
Might just take a tiny bit longer if the cupsole is harder rubber or something
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 16, 2022, 08:01:58 PM
Asked a while back if it would fuck with people's madness more or less if everything was measured in mm with mixed responses. What if everything was measured still in inches but always written as an 8th e.g 8.125 is 8 1/8, 8.38 is 8 3/8 or does it have to go down to 16ths. (Part of my madness is wanting everything to be uniform)

Pretty sure Girl used to label their boards this way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 17, 2022, 09:47:50 AM
I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 17, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on August 17, 2022, 11:45:08 AM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
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From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750

In my experience, the skate Authentics and Sk8-hi's are TTS, but the Skate Slip-ons run super snug. I think other people have had similar experiences. Not sure if it's the new insole or if they made it much lower volume, but I had to swap insoles because they were super painful against the top of my foot after an hour or two and never really broke in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on August 17, 2022, 03:58:57 PM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
[close]


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750
Thanks again mate !
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 18, 2022, 09:06:08 AM
What makes a bearing make that creaky, “zipper “ sound? I have a brand new set of bearings that are doing it right from the start. Is it the retainer or something else? I hate it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on August 18, 2022, 09:34:07 AM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
[close]


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750
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In my experience, the skate Authentics and Sk8-hi's are TTS, but the Skate Slip-ons run super snug. I think other people have had similar experiences. Not sure if it's the new insole or if they made it much lower volume, but I had to swap insoles because they were super painful against the top of my foot after an hour or two and never really broke in.
yeah i had the exact same experience with my skate slip ons. luckily i didn’t plan on actually skating mine so the insole swap isn’t a big deal and does fuck with my head. also i’ve never had to change my vans sizing so far. always been 10.5 tts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: camel filters on August 18, 2022, 10:06:11 AM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
[close]


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750
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In my experience, the skate Authentics and Sk8-hi's are TTS, but the Skate Slip-ons run super snug. I think other people have had similar experiences. Not sure if it's the new insole or if they made it much lower volume, but I had to swap insoles because they were super painful against the top of my foot after an hour or two and never really broke in.
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yeah i had the exact same experience with my skate slip ons. luckily i didn’t plan on actually skating mine so the insole swap isn’t a big deal and does fuck with my head. also i’ve never had to change my vans sizing so far. always been 10.5 tts
I've roughly measured the space between the popcush and the top of the skate slip ons with my index and thumb and the thinness of what they expect your feet to be to comfortably wear these shoes is ridiculous. They definitely alienated a big chunk of people who loved the previouse slip on pros. I wear mine with converse insoles and they feel good enough but I would have preferred a slip on with the popcush that actually fit most human feet well.

I heard that the emerica wino g6 slips are pretty forgiving but they look pretty wide brand new and slip ons that get too wide and loose with wear also annoys me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on August 18, 2022, 03:46:57 PM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
[close]


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750
[close]

In my experience, the skate Authentics and Sk8-hi's are TTS, but the Skate Slip-ons run super snug. I think other people have had similar experiences. Not sure if it's the new insole or if they made it much lower volume, but I had to swap insoles because they were super painful against the top of my foot after an hour or two and never really broke in.
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yeah i had the exact same experience with my skate slip ons. luckily i didn’t plan on actually skating mine so the insole swap isn’t a big deal and does fuck with my head. also i’ve never had to change my vans sizing so far. always been 10.5 tts
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I've roughly measured the space between the popcush and the top of the skate slip ons with my index and thumb and the thinness of what they expect your feet to be to comfortably wear these shoes is ridiculous. They definitely alienated a big chunk of people who loved the previouse slip on pros. I wear mine with converse insoles and they feel good enough but I would have preferred a slip on with the popcush that actually fit most human feet well.

I heard that the emerica wino g6 slips are pretty forgiving but they look pretty wide brand new and slip ons that get too wide and loose with wear also annoys me.
that’s funny! i probably have the exact same insoles you do in my slip ons at the moment. And i totally feel you on the wide slip ons. The only other slip ons i remotely like are janoski slips and those are torture for the first like week lmao. haven’t tried the Verona yet out of fear. Converse slips sucked when i had em. went tts and half size down, both of which bagged out super fast. Not interested in Emerica so i guess i’ll just stick with vans skate and swap insoles. :/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 18, 2022, 05:17:15 PM
What makes a bearing make that creaky, “zipper “ sound? I have a brand new set of bearings that are doing it right from the start. Is it the retainer or something else? I hate it.


Usually not enough lube, but that sound seems to only occur after a lot of solid / heavy landings in most bearings I deal with especially people who ride raw or bearings with no shields.

What brand or make are they?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 18, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
I’m pretty sure I went from the theeves to Thunder team TI’s and I don’t think the weight was much different.  I suspect getting the aluminum to bond with the Ti would be hard and as poorly as the truck grinded, they would have lasted forever…..

There’s a dude where I live who is obsessed with the g&s trucks and chromolly.  He’s made chromoly copers…
Pics. I can’t even imagine how they’d work other than like the mounting for the old tracker copers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 19, 2022, 05:33:00 AM
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What makes a bearing make that creaky, “zipper “ sound? I have a brand new set of bearings that are doing it right from the start. Is it the retainer or something else? I hate it.
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Usually not enough lube, but that sound seems to only occur after a lot of solid / heavy landings in most bearings I deal with especially people who ride raw or bearings with no shields.

What brand or make are they?

They’re Cheap Shots ( haha) but I’ve never had a problem with them before. These are brand new like straight out of the pack and on a cruiser setup with OJ Keyframes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 19, 2022, 05:42:14 AM
Maybe a shield is warped
Defect or it can easily happen when mounting the bearings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 19, 2022, 05:48:11 AM
Maybe a shield is warped
Defect or it can easily happen when mounting the bearings
Shields are good, used a press and the Indy bearing saver tool (shrug). Defective I guess. Doesn’t effect performance just sounds weird. Maybe it will go away.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 19, 2022, 06:12:23 AM
oh you did it like a pro

some debris inside maybe
i already experienced a weird sound right after mounting while everything looked right and it went away after a few hours
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: camel filters on August 19, 2022, 10:57:21 AM
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I have an old pair of Half Cab Pro 's, I think the last ones before they changed them to the Skate Half Cabs.
On my old pair I needed to size down from 10.5 to 10.
Are the new ones identical in sizing or are they tts now ?
Thanks !
[close]


From trying on quite a few options in the Skate range (but not actually skating or wearing any for more than a minute), they definitely are more snug and don't stretch (blow out) like the old Pro shoes did within the first minute or so.

That said, some people have had to go up half a size from their other usual shoes, some say true to size is good.

Others can definitely give their own experiences too, but unless you like snug to tight shoes, I would be going up a half size from regular more than anything, so the opposite of the old Pro versions, which felt so soft and stretched out so much.


I think there were two threads running with a lot more information on them.


Vans Pro Classics Line To Be Replaced By Vans Skate Classic Line

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.0


New Vans models

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110394.750
[close]

In my experience, the skate Authentics and Sk8-hi's are TTS, but the Skate Slip-ons run super snug. I think other people have had similar experiences. Not sure if it's the new insole or if they made it much lower volume, but I had to swap insoles because they were super painful against the top of my foot after an hour or two and never really broke in.
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yeah i had the exact same experience with my skate slip ons. luckily i didn’t plan on actually skating mine so the insole swap isn’t a big deal and does fuck with my head. also i’ve never had to change my vans sizing so far. always been 10.5 tts
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I've roughly measured the space between the popcush and the top of the skate slip ons with my index and thumb and the thinness of what they expect your feet to be to comfortably wear these shoes is ridiculous. They definitely alienated a big chunk of people who loved the previouse slip on pros. I wear mine with converse insoles and they feel good enough but I would have preferred a slip on with the popcush that actually fit most human feet well.

I heard that the emerica wino g6 slips are pretty forgiving but they look pretty wide brand new and slip ons that get too wide and loose with wear also annoys me.
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that’s funny! i probably have the exact same insoles you do in my slip ons at the moment. And i totally feel you on the wide slip ons. The only other slip ons i remotely like are janoski slips and those are torture for the first like week lmao. haven’t tried the Verona yet out of fear. Converse slips sucked when i had em. went tts and half size down, both of which bagged out super fast. Not interested in Emerica so i guess i’ll just stick with vans skate and swap insoles. :/
Those broken in were perfect for me fit wise. I just wished the insoles were a bit more substantial but that would fuck with the fit.  I think I just don't have the feet for most slip ons. I am interested in trying the cupsole emerica ones if I ever see them on deep sale. If they bag out, at least they look comfortable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 19, 2022, 11:00:41 AM
oh you did it like a pro

some debris inside maybe
i already experienced a weird sound right after mounting while everything looked right and it went away after a few hours

Good to hear, maybe it’ll work itself out. A few hours of skating shouldn’t take too long. Thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 19, 2022, 11:15:36 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/HdfDJfW/WIN-20220819-14-12-57-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BN5V15X)
(https://i.ibb.co/fD4zTk5/WIN-20220819-14-13-02-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QDr3xPR)
(https://i.ibb.co/BB29yGZ/WIN-20220819-14-13-10-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xtxq7Ds)

whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on August 19, 2022, 12:17:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/HdfDJfW/WIN-20220819-14-12-57-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BN5V15X)
(https://i.ibb.co/fD4zTk5/WIN-20220819-14-13-02-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QDr3xPR)
(https://i.ibb.co/BB29yGZ/WIN-20220819-14-13-10-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xtxq7Ds)

whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info

those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 19, 2022, 12:24:56 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/HdfDJfW/WIN-20220819-14-12-57-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BN5V15X)
(https://i.ibb.co/fD4zTk5/WIN-20220819-14-13-02-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QDr3xPR)
(https://i.ibb.co/BB29yGZ/WIN-20220819-14-13-10-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xtxq7Ds)

whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options

thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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Post by: Mean salto on August 19, 2022, 12:44:10 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/HdfDJfW/WIN-20220819-14-12-57-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BN5V15X)
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(https://i.ibb.co/BB29yGZ/WIN-20220819-14-13-10-Pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xtxq7Ds)

whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 19, 2022, 06:04:43 PM
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whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right



They definitely look like a 7 or 8, as per other replies.

Stage 7 didn't have a cross on the front of the baseplate at first though.  Stage 8 did.  Is that a really light outline of a cross on the baseplate?

Also those stages were all in "6" ending, not "9" ending, eg 126, 136, 146 so that fits the size too.


This helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company


STAGE  7 - 1993

6 HOLES: Implemented new hole pattern on base plate to reduce wear on bolts from nose and tail slides. Holes were set back on the baseplate, closer to the center of the board.

Thicker, sturdier pivot housing and reduced material on top of hanger to achieve a lighter weight

Introduced the 136mm truck February 1993


STAGE  8 - 1997

6 HOLES mounting base plate with cross logo added.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 19, 2022, 06:11:34 PM
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What makes a bearing make that creaky, “zipper “ sound? I have a brand new set of bearings that are doing it right from the start. Is it the retainer or something else? I hate it.
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Usually not enough lube, but that sound seems to only occur after a lot of solid / heavy landings in most bearings I deal with especially people who ride raw or bearings with no shields.

What brand or make are they?
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They’re Cheap Shots ( haha) but I’ve never had a problem with them before. These are brand new like straight out of the pack and on a cruiser setup with OJ Keyframes.


Is it all of them or just some, even just one or two?

That sort of thing bugs me when I set up brand new stuff, especially in the shop when it is for someone else.

I might be over thinking but I would be taking them off and checking the finger spin of each to see if there was something in one or more, but defects do happen with even the most seemingly consistent products.


As said by others, maybe just skate them for a decent roll around and see if it changes anything first.

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Post by: funeral_tuxedo on August 19, 2022, 07:26:25 PM
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whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right
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They definitely look like a 7 or 8, as per other replies.

Stage 7 didn't have a cross on the front of the baseplate at first though.  Stage 8 did.  Is that a really light outline of a cross on the baseplate?

Also those stages were all in "6" ending, not "9" ending, eg 126, 136, 146 so that fits the size too.


This helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company


STAGE  7 - 1993

6 HOLES: Implemented new hole pattern on base plate to reduce wear on bolts from nose and tail slides. Holes were set back on the baseplate, closer to the center of the board.

Thicker, sturdier pivot housing and reduced material on top of hanger to achieve a lighter weight

Introduced the 136mm truck February 1993


STAGE  8 - 1997

6 HOLES mounting base plate with cross logo added.

@Mbrimson88   you're definitely right theyre stage 8s
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whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right
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They definitely look like a 7 or 8, as per other replies.

Stage 7 didn't have a cross on the front of the baseplate at first though.  Stage 8 did.  Is that a really light outline of a cross on the baseplate?

Also those stages were all in "6" ending, not "9" ending, eg 126, 136, 146 so that fits the size too.


This helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company


STAGE  7 - 1993

6 HOLES: Implemented new hole pattern on base plate to reduce wear on bolts from nose and tail slides. Holes were set back on the baseplate, closer to the center of the board.

Thicker, sturdier pivot housing and reduced material on top of hanger to achieve a lighter weight

Introduced the 136mm truck February 1993


STAGE  8 - 1997

6 HOLES mounting base plate with cross logo added.
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@Mbrimson88   you're definitely right theyre stage 8s

i agree
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whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right
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They definitely look like a 7 or 8, as per other replies.

Stage 7 didn't have a cross on the front of the baseplate at first though.  Stage 8 did.  Is that a really light outline of a cross on the baseplate?

Also those stages were all in "6" ending, not "9" ending, eg 126, 136, 146 so that fits the size too.


This helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company


STAGE  7 - 1993

6 HOLES: Implemented new hole pattern on base plate to reduce wear on bolts from nose and tail slides. Holes were set back on the baseplate, closer to the center of the board.

Thicker, sturdier pivot housing and reduced material on top of hanger to achieve a lighter weight

Introduced the 136mm truck February 1993


STAGE  8 - 1997

6 HOLES mounting base plate with cross logo added.
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@Mbrimson88   you're definitely right theyre stage 8s
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i agree

sorry I misled you @Uncle Flea
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whick indy are these. im trying to sell and need to know more info
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those look like stage 7 with the v hanger and the extra hardware hole options
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thanks. im going to try and see if i can find a local with some soft wheels to trade. these trucks are too small for me. they look like 139s but are def a little bit smaller. likeily 134ish
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I might of said stage 8 but others prob know better than me. I think stage 9 is when they started sizes ending in 9 tho so 134 is prob right
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They definitely look like a 7 or 8, as per other replies.

Stage 7 didn't have a cross on the front of the baseplate at first though.  Stage 8 did.  Is that a really light outline of a cross on the baseplate?

Also those stages were all in "6" ending, not "9" ending, eg 126, 136, 146 so that fits the size too.


This helps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company


STAGE  7 - 1993

6 HOLES: Implemented new hole pattern on base plate to reduce wear on bolts from nose and tail slides. Holes were set back on the baseplate, closer to the center of the board.

Thicker, sturdier pivot housing and reduced material on top of hanger to achieve a lighter weight

Introduced the 136mm truck February 1993


STAGE  8 - 1997

6 HOLES mounting base plate with cross logo added.
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@Mbrimson88   you're definitely right theyre stage 8s
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i agree
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sorry I misled you @Uncle Flea


But we are all here to help each other, so it is not a worry in that regard.

I am glad people have corrected some of the things I had said in the past - especially if it is something more important than just how you like your own skateboard to feel, so no ego, no issue, all good there.

I never want to sound like a pain in the ass either, so I am sorry if "Mr Know-it-all" comes out now and then.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 20, 2022, 07:44:06 PM
I think I have a pair of these on a zip zinger, they work well….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 21, 2022, 03:09:34 PM
Does anyone know what shape/board the street model promised in the ad here ultimately became?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ULRzlgXhses/SwrTRc7HqsI/AAAAAAAAA3A/sjH09TMrw64/s1600/neilblender03.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 21, 2022, 04:58:20 PM
knowledge is power. together we unstoppable
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lemonchicken91 on August 21, 2022, 05:14:05 PM
Found this on reddit.

https://reddit.com/r/Sneakers/comments/v2haf1/reminiscent_of_wallabees_and_the_ipath_cats_i/

“Reminiscent of wallabees and the ipath cats I used to skate as a kid I built an upper similar to those moc boot styles and attached a dunk sole. Low top version will be next!”

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v2haf1
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on August 21, 2022, 05:26:20 PM
Does anyone know what shape/board the street model promised in the ad here ultimately became?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ULRzlgXhses/SwrTRc7HqsI/AAAAAAAAA3A/sjH09TMrw64/s1600/neilblender03.jpg)

found this in the comments on this page http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/neil-blender-3.html

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justin, sorry for the delay. yes, the scorpion deck was a street deck. neil didn't do the graphics. i think this was the only board of his where he didn't do the graphics. -jason
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/70/42/b5704249d40ce80101ecb0c13ea7edca.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 21, 2022, 06:37:28 PM
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Does anyone know what shape/board the street model promised in the ad here ultimately became?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ULRzlgXhses/SwrTRc7HqsI/AAAAAAAAA3A/sjH09TMrw64/s1600/neilblender03.jpg)
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found this in the comments on this page http://vertisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/neil-blender-3.html

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justin, sorry for the delay. yes, the scorpion deck was a street deck. neil didn't do the graphics. i think this was the only board of his where he didn't do the graphics. -jason
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/70/42/b5704249d40ce80101ecb0c13ea7edca.jpg)

That’s awesome, thanks for finding!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on August 22, 2022, 12:08:44 AM
Found this on reddit.

https://reddit.com/r/Sneakers/comments/v2haf1/reminiscent_of_wallabees_and_the_ipath_cats_i/

“Reminiscent of wallabees and the ipath cats I used to skate as a kid I built an upper similar to those moc boot styles and attached a dunk sole. Low top version will be next!”

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v2haf1
Would.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on August 22, 2022, 06:56:37 AM
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How did of come about? What’s the origin of of?
Full story please.
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Someone created a new topic and messed up spelling “Gino Off Chocolate”. They wrote “Gino Of Chocolate”. It’s stuck around ever since. That’s pretty much it



What was the Adidas shoe that was a mid-top with a strap that people were skating in the mid 2000’s before the launch of Adidas Skateboarding? Was it the Pro-Shell? Pics of the last release of that shoe don’t look to be the same

As seen 2:37-2:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJVuwdzI0A&t=4s

i'm not sure but that white stripe on the collar makes me think that they're some kind of top tens. i initially thought roster mid but they're definitely not those. maybe it's the superskate? there were some colorways of these with straps, they were a mid top cupsole, but i've never seen any with that stripe on the collar, that thing is for sure giving top ten vibes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on August 27, 2022, 09:15:12 AM
Best deck shape/company for pure street?

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Post by: iw0 on August 27, 2022, 09:21:40 AM
Best deck shape/company for pure street?

which ever one you are most comfortable and skate best on regardless of brand
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Post by: manysnakes on August 27, 2022, 09:46:36 AM
Best deck shape/company for pure street?

https://www.brailleskateboarding.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/revive-aaron-kyro-lobotomy-skateboard-deck?variant=42460446654626
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on August 27, 2022, 09:58:51 AM
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https://www.brailleskateboarding.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/revive-aaron-kyro-lobotomy-skateboard-deck?variant=42460446654626

What a graphic *chef’s kiss*
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on August 27, 2022, 04:50:02 PM
anyone ever spray paint a top ( before gripping obv ) & is has there ever been an issue?
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Post by: FuzzGNU on August 27, 2022, 05:49:12 PM
Best deck shape/company for pure street?

Check the Woodshop thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0

Anything with BBS or PS Stix wood, essentially.

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https://www.brailleskateboarding.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/revive-aaron-kyro-lobotomy-skateboard-deck?variant=42460446654626

A) You're hilarious

B) That deck graphic actually fucks. Was not prepared for that. Would be a great ironic graphic for someone like Gifted Hater to ride lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on August 27, 2022, 11:32:04 PM
anyone ever spray paint a top ( before gripping obv ) & is has there ever been an issue?

I’ve done it a few times. Once I had no issues but the other one I might’ve gripped the board too soon (before the paint was fully dried) as the grip kinda didn’t stick properly. Might depend on the paint also.
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Post by: DarkPools on August 27, 2022, 11:47:02 PM
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https://www.brailleskateboarding.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/revive-aaron-kyro-lobotomy-skateboard-deck?variant=42460446654626
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What a graphic *chef’s kiss*

I can't believe they actually green lit that graphic...

Oh wait, they're all pretentious chumps at Revive, sooo it actually  checks out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on August 28, 2022, 01:57:01 AM
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https://www.brailleskateboarding.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/revive-aaron-kyro-lobotomy-skateboard-deck?variant=42460446654626
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What a graphic *chef’s kiss*
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I can't believe they actually green lit that graphic...

Oh wait, they're all pretentious chumps at Revive, sooo it actually  checks out

Just checked out the other ones in that series... sadly this is the only one that comes close to as "good": https://www.theshredquarters.com/jason-park-lobotomy-deck/

Honorable mention to this one as well: https://www.theshredquarters.com/lunchtime-deck/

I'm imagining the final hammer of a Zero part in slow motion... GX 4:3... skater rolls up to some giant stair... pops a trick, and as the board begins to spin, its revealed that they are skating this lunchtime Revive deck instead.
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Post by: iw0 on August 28, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
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I’ve done it a few times. Once I had no issues but the other one I might’ve gripped the board too soon (before the paint was fully dried) as the grip kinda didn’t stick properly. Might depend on the paint also.

word ty, that's exactly what i would have expected to happen to me haha. i'll give it a spin on a beat deck with the paint i have and see what happens!
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Post by: DERBY on August 28, 2022, 01:52:40 PM
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What a graphic *chef’s kiss*
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I can't believe they actually green lit that graphic...

Oh wait, they're all pretentious chumps at Revive, sooo it actually  checks out

needs more xenu
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SwitchBigspinflipBoneless on August 28, 2022, 02:17:02 PM
I'm skating some Venture Lights 5.6 Hi's, and recently the front truck keeps coming loose. No matter how much I tighten it it come loose within an hour and have to retighten. Have replaced the nut and same problem.

Anybody know how to fix? And any quick fixes? Want to skate tomorrow but won't be able to get a kingpin cause of bank holiday (have some spare thunders for parts though)
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Post by: Plan9Customs on August 28, 2022, 06:06:10 PM
I'm skating some Venture Lights 5.6 Hi's, and recently the front truck keeps coming loose. No matter how much I tighten it it come loose within an hour and have to retighten. Have replaced the nut and same problem.

Anybody know how to fix? And any quick fixes? Want to skate tomorrow but won't be able to get a kingpin cause of bank holiday (have some spare thunders for parts though)
Blue loctite. Should be 242.
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Post by: BALARGUE on August 29, 2022, 11:19:33 AM
If changing the nut failed. That could mean your kingpin is loose in the baseplate
You might need a new baseplate
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What a graphic *chef’s kiss*
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I can't believe they actually green lit that graphic...

Oh wait, they're all pretentious chumps at Revive, sooo it actually  checks out
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needs more xenu

If you think Revive is bad just check out Santa Fe skateboards- some random dude that can't tre flip just started a brand and claims to be a 20 year veteran pro AND the graphics are worse than Revive.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on August 29, 2022, 09:01:57 PM
Will there be a new season of Slap's One In A Million?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on August 29, 2022, 11:43:27 PM
Anybody know of boards (preferably bbs) that are a true 32 length, 8.38-8.5, 14.25-14.38 wheelbase. Kicks not too steep, preferably on the mellow side and not too square but not pointy.

The 8.38 krooked mike anderson is pretty nice but a bit too square, and maybe justtt a tad steep for my liking.

Having a longer setup with aces has made me realise I want slightly longer than 31.75-31.8 ish, and a tad lighter pop especially on the nose for my ventures (usually skate the navy eagle shape). Feel like this could maybe help a teeny bit.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 30, 2022, 02:02:00 AM
Anybody know of boards (preferably bbs) that are a true 32 length, 8.38-8.5, 14.25-14.38 wheelbase. Kicks not too steep, preferably on the mellow side and not too square but not pointy.

The 8.38 krooked mike anderson is pretty nice but a bit too square, and maybe justtt a tad steep for my liking.

Having a longer setup with aces has made me realise I want slightly longer than 31.75-31.8 ish, and a tad lighter pop especially on the nose for my ventures (usually skate the navy eagle shape). Feel like this could maybe help a teeny bit.


It might be ok or not quite to your liking, but the blue eagle on Ventures was almost comparable to the usual DLX 8.38 with 14.5 wb on Ace trucks when I skated both of those configurations.

There are a lot of boards on that 8.38 shape, from DLX, DGK, Bakerboys, then some from Birdhouse, Element and more.

The 14.5 wb listing might put you off, but the shape works well with trucks like Indy (my preference of setup) and definitely with Ace.


As far as other BBS boards, Passport and generic BBS shaped brands as well as Generator / shop boards are more like 8.38 x 32 with 14.38 wb.


The DLX 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb is also a good one with great kicks, almost always now just AH branded, but there is one in the latest catalog that looks quite plain if you are not into the eagle or crazy Grimple graphics.  I think that would suit Venture trucks more, but that is just me.



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Post by: tzhangdox on August 30, 2022, 12:21:16 PM
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Anybody know of boards (preferably bbs) that are a true 32 length, 8.38-8.5, 14.25-14.38 wheelbase. Kicks not too steep, preferably on the mellow side and not too square but not pointy.

The 8.38 krooked mike anderson is pretty nice but a bit too square, and maybe justtt a tad steep for my liking.

Having a longer setup with aces has made me realise I want slightly longer than 31.75-31.8 ish, and a tad lighter pop especially on the nose for my ventures (usually skate the navy eagle shape). Feel like this could maybe help a teeny bit.
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It might be ok or not quite to your liking, but the blue eagle on Ventures was almost comparable to the usual DLX 8.38 with 14.5 wb on Ace trucks when I skated both of those configurations.

There are a lot of boards on that 8.38 shape, from DLX, DGK, Bakerboys, then some from Birdhouse, Element and more.

The 14.5 wb listing might put you off, but the shape works well with trucks like Indy (my preference of setup) and definitely with Ace.


As far as other BBS boards, Passport and generic BBS shaped brands as well as Generator / shop boards are more like 8.38 x 32 with 14.38 wb.


The DLX 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb is also a good one with great kicks, almost always now just AH branded, but there is one in the latest catalog that looks quite plain if you are not into the eagle or crazy Grimple graphics.  I think that would suit Venture trucks more, but that is just me.

Word thanks. I still think I skate a little better on my ventures overall, but think I'd benefit from slightly lighter pop especially on the nose end after trying aces. Preserving the same effective wheelbase only does so much.

I've done the 8.4 dlx board and I do like it a little bit more than the navy eagle, but wish it was a tad wider of even slightly longer kicks like the manderson. I have a dlx shaped 8.5 caleb barnett hockey which basically feels like the 8.4 shape just a tad wider which I think will be good.

I used to skate that generic bbs shape 8.38 32 14.38 on ventures, but I think it also suffered the problem where the kicks felt a bit short, also proportionally I think I prefer something a little more "chodey" as opposed to that which looks a little "toothpicky"

Think I'll like this 8.5 caleb barnett hockey, but also interested in trying the 8.5 limosine with the 14.38 wb down the line.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on August 30, 2022, 01:33:21 PM
Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on August 30, 2022, 01:50:16 PM
Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality

I don't have a tee but I just got a crew neck sweater and it's remarkably high quality. Which, to be fair, it was pretty expensive.
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Post by: BALARGUE on August 31, 2022, 01:55:09 AM
Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality

they get more and more expensive BUT they are great
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on August 31, 2022, 04:54:48 AM
Are double drilled boards (so you can choose nose and wheelbase length) weaker than regular boards?

Would a symmetrical board with both ends double drilled solve the issues many have with symmetrical boards? You could make the nose longer then when it's getting old swap it around like what people do with a symmetrical board
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Post by: chillclinton87 on August 31, 2022, 05:50:18 AM
read somewhere on here that the new skate half cabs and skate 92 half cabs fit/ feel slightly different- something along the lines of heel lock being better in the regular skate half cabs and that the 92s feel a little longer even in the same size?

I got some navy blue 92s and they feel a lil longer, but i haven't skated vans in a while- deal was too good to pass up though, ot em for 50€

and if that helps: i am usually a US 7,5 in dunk highs and tiagos/ NB but always went with US 8 in vans before- last pairs were some kyle walkers a few years back and i cannot remember what size i tried crockett highs.....

If anybody can confirm this or give their opinion it'd be appreciated!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on August 31, 2022, 07:52:10 AM
Are double drilled boards (so you can choose nose and wheelbase length) weaker than regular boards?

Would a symmetrical board with both ends double drilled solve the issues many have with symmetrical boards? You could make the nose longer then when it's getting old swap it around like what people do with a symmetrical board

Every hole you make weakens the material but in the grand scheme of a skateboard deck’s expected lifespan it’s going to be almost completely irrelevant.

This double-drilled deck is a good idea. The skate industry will never make it though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on August 31, 2022, 08:51:59 AM
Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality

polar clothing in general is of amazing quality, the t-shirts are heavy and well made too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on August 31, 2022, 08:58:25 AM
read somewhere on here that the new skate half cabs and skate 92 half cabs fit/ feel slightly different- something along the lines of heel lock being better in the regular skate half cabs and that the 92s feel a little longer even in the same size?

I got some navy blue 92s and they feel a lil longer, but i haven't skated vans in a while- deal was too good to pass up though, ot em for 50€

and if that helps: i am usually a US 7,5 in dunk highs and tiagos/ NB but always went with US 8 in vans before- last pairs were some kyle walkers a few years back and i cannot remember what size i tried crockett highs.....

If anybody can confirm this or give their opinion it'd be appreciated!

i had 2 pairs of 92s and 2 pairs of the regular skate half cabs and for me the main difference was that the 92s were wider in the toe. thinking about it they might have been a little longer too but it was definitely less noticeable than the width. as for the heel thing i actually thought that the 92s were better in that area, but it might be because of my foot shape or something. both models skate pretty much the same though.

all of the half cabs i had were size 9s (i wear the same size in dunks fwiw). i definitely would not size down in the 92s, if anything i'd get a larger size in the standard model, but again that's only me and it might be different for you depending on your foot shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on September 02, 2022, 08:57:20 AM
Anyone tried the Old Bones Therapy insoles?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: reckless toboggan on September 02, 2022, 12:56:47 PM
Have you seen him?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Violator on September 02, 2022, 07:33:43 PM
Anyone happen to have a download of the Quartersnacks Mindfield Re-edit?  I can't find it anywhere online and it's a hoot to watch  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 04, 2022, 03:22:27 AM
Why do some people retire their trucks when they’ve ground to the axle?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 04, 2022, 04:01:13 AM
Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality

These are all I wear now, the Portugal made ones are roomy, soft and really well made.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 04, 2022, 08:34:52 AM
Why do some people retire their trucks when they’ve ground to the axle?

Cowardice
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on September 04, 2022, 08:37:44 AM
Why do some people retire their trucks when they’ve ground to the axle?

They tend to break rather easily at that point, so you're putting yourself in a lot more danger by riding them.
Basically like skating with the kingpin nut barely on, your hanger could fall off anytime and fuck you up
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 04, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
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They tend to break rather easily at that point, so you're putting yourself in a lot more danger by riding them.
Basically like skating with the kingpin nut barely on, your hanger could fall off anytime and fuck you up

I’ve only ground one truck in half and I got to the axle fairly easily but grinding the axle down takes like 10 times as much effort as it’s so much harder. I’d say you’re pretty safe for a good while on axeled trucks. Maybe if you jump down huge gaps I could see it being a concern but other than that I don’t get it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 04, 2022, 12:50:07 PM
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They tend to break rather easily at that point, so you're putting yourself in a lot more danger by riding them.
Basically like skating with the kingpin nut barely on, your hanger could fall off anytime and fuck you up
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I’ve only ground one truck in half and I got to the axle fairly easily but grinding the axle down takes like 10 times as much effort as it’s so much harder. I’d say you’re pretty safe for a good while on axeled trucks. Maybe if you jump down huge gaps I could see it being a concern but other than that I don’t get it.

I’m halfway through the axle on a pair of Indy’s and I’m
Waiting for them to crack. Holding strong though. I do a dedicated hour slappy session every week just to keep wearing em down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on September 04, 2022, 04:55:53 PM
As someone who's never had formula fours, will I notice a difference? I'm currently riding a set of girl wheels and before I think I was riding some OJ wheels that were on sale at active a long time ago
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 04, 2022, 06:46:24 PM
As someone who's never had formula fours, will I notice a difference? I'm currently riding a set of girl wheels and before I think I was riding some OJ wheels that were on sale at active a long time ago

They are so much vastly better than most other wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on September 04, 2022, 06:55:54 PM
Why do some people retire their trucks when they’ve ground to the axle?

I’m not bananas about the grind, plus I usually cobble together a set up from old parts….it’s sick giving someone a set up……I’d feel bad giving someone a set of trucks that are to the axel….almost to the axel gives them a chance to finish it off…

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Aren’t the T’s quite short and square?

polar clothing in general is of amazing quality, the t-shirts are heavy and well made too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on September 05, 2022, 03:29:42 AM
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I’m not bananas about the grind, plus I usually cobble together a set up from old parts….it’s sick giving someone a set up……I’d feel bad giving someone a set of trucks that are to the axel….almost to the axel gives them a chance to finish it off…

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Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality
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Aren’t the T’s quite short and square?

polar clothing in general is of amazing quality, the t-shirts are heavy and well made too.
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no, not anymore. pretty standard fit, a little boxy but definitely not square and short.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FuzzGNU on September 05, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
As someone who's never had formula fours, will I notice a difference? I'm currently riding a set of girl wheels and before I think I was riding some OJ wheels that were on sale at active a long time ago

I'm not a fan of F4 97a but besides those yeah they're pretty decent. A tier above OJ Elite.

If you like really really hard wheels get Bones 103a, if you like 99-101 get F4.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 05, 2022, 01:39:09 PM
You cannot lose with 99a F4, which is probably the best selling wheel across skateboarding especially if you're coming from a generic Crailtap wheel.

If you ride em for a while and want:

-Harder then 101 or Bones 103.
-Softer then 97 or Powell Dragons.
-Roll the dice then try something like OJ elites or Acid REM. Not as popular but people love them.
-To smoke your wheels out of a bong then get Satori.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alraunen on September 06, 2022, 12:02:55 PM
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I’m not bananas about the grind, plus I usually cobble together a set up from old parts….it’s sick giving someone a set up……I’d feel bad giving someone a set of trucks that are to the axel….almost to the axel gives them a chance to finish it off…

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Anyone own a Polar Skate tee? How's the quality on it? Would love to support, but skate tees are notorious for mediocre quality
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Aren’t the T’s quite short and square?

polar clothing in general is of amazing quality, the t-shirts are heavy and well made too.
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no, not anymore. pretty standard fit, a little boxy but definitely not square and short.

I agree with the standard fit, they have ups and downs with the quality of the t-shirts. Last one I got is fine and thick as Uniqlo U t-shirts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 07, 2022, 12:09:06 AM
Do skate shoes last longer than other shoes?
For example skate superstars vs average ones.
Average blazers vs skate blazers etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on September 07, 2022, 12:52:26 AM
Does anyone know the song used at around 4.55 in Tor Ström's Is This The Place? I recognize it but I can't seem to find it and it's driving me nuts.

http://youtu.be/s8bDOuzRijo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 07, 2022, 01:20:44 AM
Do skate shoes last longer than other shoes?
For example skate superstars vs average ones.
Average blazers vs skate blazers etc
Not always but usually yes. In the case of blazers the SB usually have better suede or leather and the regular ones have a weird panel in the Ollie area that looks double layered but usually isn't so when you break the stitching you'll get a hole. I've heard some cases of regular Adidas being better than the skate ones but that was a while ago all regular sambas, Stan Smith's and Superstars I've seen lately look like the leather is kinda shitty
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 07, 2022, 08:52:14 AM
Does anyone know the song used at around 4.55 in Tor Ström's Is This The Place? I recognize it but I can't seem to find it and it's driving me nuts.

http://youtu.be/s8bDOuzRijo

This one?
https://youtu.be/40kKad4TxgU
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 07, 2022, 01:02:50 PM
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Does anyone know the song used at around 4.55 in Tor Ström's Is This The Place? I recognize it but I can't seem to find it and it's driving me nuts.

http://youtu.be/s8bDOuzRijo
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This one?
https://youtu.be/40kKad4TxgU

this one is closer to 4:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Idjje7ffo
but you might be thinking of one of the songs sampling it like danny brown possibly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVyGxlgeAjc
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Post by: djoekr on September 07, 2022, 03:06:49 PM
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Does anyone know the song used at around 4.55 in Tor Ström's Is This The Place? I recognize it but I can't seem to find it and it's driving me nuts.

http://youtu.be/s8bDOuzRijo
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This one?
https://youtu.be/40kKad4TxgU
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this one is closer to 4:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Idjje7ffo
but you might be thinking of one of the songs sampling it like danny brown possibly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVyGxlgeAjc

You're absolutely right! I was thinking it was a Danny Brown song and I actually looked through XXX and Old before asking here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swongolianbbq on September 08, 2022, 12:21:49 PM
From the converse Australia site

"This provides skaters with responsive heel cushioning and further impact protection. The snappy rebound provided by the Nike Zoom Air bag is also useful for technical heel-based tricks, like heelflips and shove-its."


Amazing

Never knew a heel airbag was a performance booster for heelflips and shuvits
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 08, 2022, 06:49:35 PM
From the converse Australia site

"This provides skaters with responsive heel cushioning and further impact protection. The snappy rebound provided by the Nike Zoom Air bag is also useful for technical heel-based tricks, like heelflips and shove-its."


Amazing

Never knew a heel airbag was a performance booster for heelflips and shuvits


Ha yeah wow, I wonder who came up with that.  Someone who has never actually done a heelflip or shovit in their life?

Well at least now you know the secret!


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on September 08, 2022, 08:42:54 PM
From the converse Australia site

"This provides skaters with responsive heel cushioning and further impact protection. The snappy rebound provided by the Nike Zoom Air bag is also useful for technical heel-based tricks, like heelflips and shove-its."


Amazing

Never knew a heel airbag was a performance booster for heelflips and shuvits

The cats outta the bag now mate, Neen been hiding his secret Nike zoom airbag for yrs now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on September 09, 2022, 06:29:53 AM
Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on September 09, 2022, 07:07:32 AM
Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?

I’m an 11 in most shoes but the slip-cup was a little loose for me in my usual size.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on September 09, 2022, 11:52:30 AM
Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?

I’m a 12 and went TTS and it’s loosened up some since skating it a bit. I don’t wanna tell you the wrong thing but I think if you like shoes a little lose tts be fine if you want them to be tighter. Size down to 11.5 and once it’s broken in may fit how you like.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on September 09, 2022, 12:29:08 PM
Thanks guys, seems like the safe move is to grab the 11.5 to try first.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on September 09, 2022, 12:41:03 PM
How different are Indy hollow forged vs Ace AF1s in terms of pop feel, stability and pinch?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on September 09, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
How different are Indy hollow forged vs Ace AF1s in terms of pop feel, stability and pinch?

I wouldn't call it a huge difference. I feel like the indy's have a slightly stiffer pop feel but otherwise a pretty similar turn and overall feel. The ace might be a bit less stable
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Post by: LebowskisRug on September 09, 2022, 01:05:46 PM
One is "the best" and the other is "the rest".
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on September 09, 2022, 01:07:28 PM
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I wouldn't call it a huge difference. I feel like the indy's have a slightly stiffer pop feel but otherwise a pretty similar turn and overall feel. The ace might be a bit less stable

Thanks. Yeah I have a setup with ace af1s and a setup with venture cast plate and titanium hangers. I like both in their own way and can skate either fine, both have pros n cons. Makes me realise something in between the two would probably be a good happy medium for me, and sounds like that might be indy hollow forged
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Post by: Paperclip20 on September 09, 2022, 11:00:28 PM
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How different are Indy hollow forged vs Ace AF1s in terms of pop feel, stability and pinch?
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I wouldn't call it a huge difference. I feel like the indy's have a slightly stiffer pop feel but otherwise a pretty similar turn and overall feel. The ace might be a bit less stable
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Thanks. Yeah I have a setup with ace af1s and a setup with venture cast plate and titanium hangers. I like both in their own way and can skate either fine, both have pros n cons. Makes me realise something in between the two would probably be a good happy medium for me, and sounds like that might be indy hollow forged

Honestly that's exactly me except standard cast ventures. Was going between those and ace then ended up settling with Indy
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on September 10, 2022, 06:56:04 AM
Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.


I’m your size and the emerica slips are a little too loose for me. Length is pretty good, I feel like sizing down would be too short. If you have a wider or higher volume foot, you’ll probably be ok.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?
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Post by: moonordie on September 11, 2022, 12:57:27 AM
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Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.


I’m your size and the emerica slips are a little too loose for me. Length is pretty good, I feel like sizing down would be too short. If you have a wider or higher volume foot, you’ll probably be ok.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?
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I had the vulc Wino slips and I went TTS.
Speaking of sizing how's Crockett high ones?
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Post by: DarkPools on September 11, 2022, 01:57:48 AM
I have Wino Slip Cup and I went TTS. They fit well in TTS but I can see them loosening up enough over time where maybe going 0.5 down would work.

I personally suggest folks go TTS and combine with either thicker socks and/or swapping the insole with something a little thicker to accommodate any stretching over time.

The Winoa with an insole swap both optimizes the comfort, but also the fit (if needed), and the support. I run STI insoles in my Gamma G6 and it's perfect, so Wino would also be solid!
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Post by: Made In China on September 11, 2022, 09:06:53 AM
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Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.


I’m your size and the emerica slips are a little too loose for me. Length is pretty good, I feel like sizing down would be too short. If you have a wider or higher volume foot, you’ll probably be ok.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?
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I had the vulc Wino slips and I went TTS.
Speaking of sizing how's Crockett high ones?
Crockett Highs run TTS and are my favorite skate shoes ever. I have five pairs and I’m finishing up skating my second pair. Great if you like thin cupsoles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lemonchicken91 on September 11, 2022, 10:45:43 AM
The nike vulcs, can i remove the insole in these? Feels glued down like OG vans
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on September 11, 2022, 12:13:40 PM
Any tips for a stuck nut on a hardware bolt? The nut will not move in either direction and the screwdriver is starting to strip the bolt when I try to turn it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on September 11, 2022, 02:50:12 PM
Any tips for a stuck nut on a hardware bolt? The nut will not move in either direction and the screwdriver is starting to strip the bolt when I try to turn it.

Cut it off. Bolt cutters, handsaw, sawzall, etc
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 11, 2022, 06:46:14 PM
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Any tips for a stuck nut on a hardware bolt? The nut will not move in either direction and the screwdriver is starting to strip the bolt when I try to turn it.
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Cut it off. Bolt cutters, handsaw, sawzall, etc


Yes to those things.

The other option if it is just a single one is undo all the rest first, then use the truck like a lever and twist it up and round a bit which will hold the bolt on an angle to make it easier to try to get the nut off, or worst case scenario, I have almost pulled a messed up bolt through the deck enough to make it way easier to cut it off.  A couple of single stuck bolts like that I was able to twist it enough that the bolt snaps, but I think those deck bolts were cheaper ones on those boards.

Considering the truck is the most valuable thing, breaking the bolt / nut or even damaging the deck is not as important as getting the truck off the board in one piece.

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Post by: moonordie on September 12, 2022, 12:55:45 AM
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Does anyone have sizing suggestions for the Emerica slip ons? The slip cup preferably.
I've worn the new puig shoe and GT blazers recently both size 12 and they fit well. Maybe a tiny bit loose on the nike's. Just curious if I should stick with 12 or go for 11.5. I don't have anywhere to try them on locally.


I’m your size and the emerica slips are a little too loose for me. Length is pretty good, I feel like sizing down would be too short. If you have a wider or higher volume foot, you’ll probably be ok.

@EmericaTM Any feedback from other people who have switched over on sizing?
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I had the vulc Wino slips and I went TTS.
Speaking of sizing how's Crockett high ones?
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Crockett Highs run TTS and are my favorite skate shoes ever. I have five pairs and I’m finishing up skating my second pair. Great if you like thin cupsoles.
Thanks for that reply. Currently I'm skating the Wayvee (usually I always wear a size 8 but these feel a little tight) and they feel like crap after not even 2 weeks of skating them.
Ordered the Crockett high on 8.5, can't wait to try them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lilboosie on September 12, 2022, 05:41:53 PM
Do last resorts run true to size. Or should I do a half size down like converse ?
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Post by: swongolianbbq on September 12, 2022, 06:49:28 PM
I can skate either. I wear an 8.5 in blazers and chucks, 9 in vans, 8.5 in Tiagos, 8.5 in Adidas superstar/pro model, but once I did try on 8.5's and 9's of vans pro halfcabs, and they both felt good and it confused me. I wouldn't be able to fit an 8.5 vans slip-on at all. I have wide feet too, and a lil bit of space between my toes and the end of the shoe.

The 8.5 last resorts are shorter than 8.5 blazers. I compared the footbeds. They fit me like a sock, and were kinda tight at first but nothing bad at all, kind of like how blazers are a little tight at first on me, but the blazers were only tight in the width. The 8.5 LRAB's were tight all around. The sz. 9 last resorts fit me too, but I could throw another footbed in on top of the stock/glued in one and they still fit.

I think if you go with the slightly bigger size, know that you can throw another footbed in there to take up space, and then you have some extra cushion, as the stock situation doesn't have much as far as impact protection. Tons of board feel though.
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Post by: lilboosie on September 13, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
 Thanks penis

I'm 9 in every shoe except converse. So it sounds like I should get 8.5  vm003 lol in suede.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 13, 2022, 02:10:07 PM
Do last resorts run true to size. Or should I do a half size down like converse ?

Half size down in suede, TTS in Canvas
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lilboosie on September 13, 2022, 02:42:44 PM
tts in canvas ?? thats so odd. but ill take slaps word for it because i read that a couple times
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 13, 2022, 03:41:09 PM
tts in canvas ?? thats so odd. but ill take slaps word for it because i read that a couple times

I guess more specifically canvas in VM001. It seems like LRAB had different lasts on vM001 suede and VM001 canvas. The canvas VM001 is noticeably more snug.

With VM003, you can go half size down in my experience. So VM001 suede, VM002, VM003 you go half size down. VM001 canvas go true to size.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Huell Howser on September 13, 2022, 04:15:42 PM
@BartHarleyJarvis @lilboosie I went TTS on VM001 canvas hi's when they first came out and they're too big. I have since gotten vm001 canvas lows and vm002 suede in a half size down. both fit perfectly. I would go half size down all around but that's just me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 13, 2022, 07:00:25 PM
@BartHarleyJarvis @lilboosie I went TTS on VM001 canvas hi's when they first came out and they're too big. I have since gotten vm001 canvas lows and vm002 suede in a half size down. both fit perfectly. I would go half size down all around but that's just me
same here. I just finished skating some vm001 canvas lows half size down and the fit was great. skated canvas highs too half size down and they were also wonderful. try ‘em on if you can but i’d say half size down is the safest bet. all feet are different though!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on September 13, 2022, 07:32:12 PM
What skate (or clothing) brands make the best quality baseball hats with curved brims?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 13, 2022, 09:37:49 PM
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@BartHarleyJarvis @lilboosie I went TTS on VM001 canvas hi's when they first came out and they're too big. I have since gotten vm001 canvas lows and vm002 suede in a half size down. both fit perfectly. I would go half size down all around but that's just me
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same here. I just finished skating some vm001 canvas lows half size down and the fit was great. skated canvas highs too half size down and they were also wonderful. try ‘em on if you can but i’d say half size down is the safest bet. all feet are different though!

Same for me. Half size down on canvas. Only tried on the suede ones and on those I’d go half size down also.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on September 14, 2022, 05:12:23 AM
Not hardware related but who's youwillsoon on IG ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lemonchicken91 on September 14, 2022, 06:38:23 AM
The nike vulcs, can i remove the insole in these? Feels glued down like OG vans

anyone?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 14, 2022, 06:43:57 AM
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Do last resorts run true to size. Or should I do a half size down like converse ?
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Half size down in suede, TTS in Canvas
TTS in Suede for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on September 14, 2022, 08:15:16 AM
Not hardware related but who's youwillsoon on IG ?
Watson.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lilboosie on September 14, 2022, 10:58:03 AM
thanks players. gonna do 8.5 for both. have narrow feet. recently got 8.5 ctas pro mids and they fit perfect. nice and tight.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 14, 2022, 11:26:02 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that certain skaters don't wear hats and certain ones only wear hats? Like it's super weird to see Hjalte or Simon Jenson hat footage, but Bobby without a hat? Super rare.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on September 14, 2022, 01:03:05 PM
Has anyone ever noticed that certain skaters don't wear hats and certain ones only wear hats? Like it's super weird to see Hjalte or Simon Jenson hat footage, but Bobby without a hat? Super rare.
I think I've seen Max palmer wear a beanie one time ever and no other hats
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: camel filters on September 14, 2022, 01:08:46 PM
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Has anyone ever noticed that certain skaters don't wear hats and certain ones only wear hats? Like it's super weird to see Hjalte or Simon Jenson hat footage, but Bobby without a hat? Super rare.
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I think I've seen Max palmer wear a beanie one time ever and no other hats
I think he does the backwards cap semi regularly. I considered doing the unhinged thing of screencapping every instance but am choosing to just share this and hope you take my word for it
(https://images.freeskatemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/11090033/pires-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 14, 2022, 01:39:51 PM
it's kinda fascinating from an OCD sense. Why no hat? Do you feel weird with something touching your head? Sweat buildup bad? Picky taste? Why no lid?!?!! I get why Baldy Worrest wears one, but buddy we don't care that you're aging we just want you to keep doin you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on September 15, 2022, 02:17:19 AM
Is the sizing on STATE shoes consistent? Even though I fit 8.5 on every single other company, my one pair(Fred Gall pro model) of state 8.5 shoes is weirdly long. Now I have a great deal on the "State Pacifica cup" and I'm wondering if I need to go with size 8 or if they kinda fucked up on my other pair.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 15, 2022, 11:26:13 AM
Deck rolled trough a puddle. Bearings are f*****, and the trucks are looser now. Will the trucks get back to normal ? Venture btw
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on September 15, 2022, 11:28:19 AM
Deck rolled trough a puddle. Bearings are f*****, and the trucks are looser now. Will the trucks get back to normal ? Venture btw

I imagine they should return to normal, not sure what would cause them to be looser after going through a puddle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gaunting on September 15, 2022, 11:55:59 AM
anyone skated the ace low in AF1 or classic? want to get some in 02, for my 7.75” but can’t find reviews for them. I know normal classics and AF1’s have a really surfy turn, but do the lows.? setting them up on my tech  board, so I do want them a little bit tighter, but not venture low tight. I found my pair of Indy low 129 yesterday, that I’ve never skated, but the turn on them is basically non existent, just a straight line.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 15, 2022, 12:35:04 PM
anyone skated the ace low in AF1 or classic? want to get some in 02, for my 7.75” but can’t find reviews for them. I know normal classics and AF1’s have a really surfy turn, but do the lows.? setting them up on my tech  board, so I do want them a little bit tighter, but not venture low tight. I found my pair of Indy low 129 yesterday, that I’ve never skated, but the turn on them is basically non existent, just a straight line.
Got Indy129 lows on my skinny board (sometimes even put them on big boards) you can take off the top washer and they'll turn a bit more. Soz don't know much about aces but I've seen the classics in 22 and 02 on a bunch of sites real cheap lately so maybe worth just getting them and finding out if it's not too expensive
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gaunting on September 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
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anyone skated the ace low in AF1 or classic? want to get some in 02, for my 7.75” but can’t find reviews for them. I know normal classics and AF1’s have a really surfy turn, but do the lows.? setting them up on my tech  board, so I do want them a little bit tighter, but not venture low tight. I found my pair of Indy low 129 yesterday, that I’ve never skated, but the turn on them is basically non existent, just a straight line.
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Got Indy129 lows on my skinny board (sometimes even put them on big boards) you can take off the top washer and they'll turn a bit more. Soz don't know much about aces but I've seen the classics in 22 and 02 on a bunch of sites real cheap lately so maybe worth just getting them and finding out if it's not too expensive

yea, that’s what I don’t like about these Indy lows. the top bushing is so different from any other truck, so you can’t replace them with normal Indy bushings, I tried the new green venture bushings, and then they were comically loose, and they stopped making the low aftermarket Indy bushings, so idk. might just get the AF1 lows and put their aftermarket hard bushings in there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on September 15, 2022, 01:39:05 PM
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anyone skated the ace low in AF1 or classic? want to get some in 02, for my 7.75” but can’t find reviews for them. I know normal classics and AF1’s have a really surfy turn, but do the lows.? setting them up on my tech  board, so I do want them a little bit tighter, but not venture low tight. I found my pair of Indy low 129 yesterday, that I’ve never skated, but the turn on them is basically non existent, just a straight line.
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Got Indy129 lows on my skinny board (sometimes even put them on big boards) you can take off the top washer and they'll turn a bit more. Soz don't know much about aces but I've seen the classics in 22 and 02 on a bunch of sites real cheap lately so maybe worth just getting them and finding out if it's not too expensive
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yea, that’s what I don’t like about these Indy lows. the top bushing is so different from any other truck, so you can’t replace them with normal Indy bushings, I tried the new green venture bushings, and then they were comically loose, and they stopped making the low aftermarket Indy bushings, so idk. might just get the AF1 lows and put their aftermarket hard bushings in there.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=119999.msg3845359#msg3845359

Digging though the AF1 low thread might have your answer, if not feel free to ask the Ace thread for help
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: europa1991 on September 15, 2022, 01:49:03 PM
So… Haven’t owned a pair of Cons since the Jake Johnson leather Jack Purcells mids a couple years ago, went TTS for those and they felt fine so are CTAS mids gonna feel the same way or should I still do a half size down like most ppl do with CTAS?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 15, 2022, 02:11:52 PM
So… Haven’t owned a pair of Cons since the Jake Johnson leather Jack Purcells mids a couple years ago, went TTS for those and they felt fine so are CTAS mids gonna feel the same way or should I still do a half size down like most ppl do with CTAS?
half size downs for the CTAS. pretty sure all iterations of the chuck is 1/2 size down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on September 15, 2022, 02:24:22 PM
anyone skated the ace low in AF1 or classic? want to get some in 02, for my 7.75” but can’t find reviews for them. I know normal classics and AF1’s have a really surfy turn, but do the lows.? setting them up on my tech  board, so I do want them a little bit tighter, but not venture low tight. I found my pair of Indy low 129 yesterday, that I’ve never skated, but the turn on them is basically non existent, just a straight line.

AF1 lows turn as well as standard AF1 and have even more kingpin clearance. Amazing trucks, but extremely loose. Harder to handle than standard AF1 and classics, so I'd recommend some harder bushings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lurkey on September 15, 2022, 02:48:43 PM
Has anyone flown domestically with a board lately? Usually, I just bring it as one of my carry-ons no problem but wanted to check if anyone had any annoying experiences lately. Flying Delta, LA<>Mpls
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on September 15, 2022, 03:08:11 PM
Has anyone flown domestically with a board lately? Usually, I just bring it as one of my carry-ons no problem but wanted to check if anyone had any annoying experiences lately. Flying Delta, LA<>Mpls

Flew from Seattle to Detroit Oct 2020 with American Airlines and took my board on no problem. Overhead storage was super full and the flight attendant wasn't too happy about having to move the board around but it was fine. Not sure if much has changed tho since then
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 15, 2022, 04:31:45 PM
Has anyone flown domestically with a board lately? Usually, I just bring it as one of my carry-ons no problem but wanted to check if anyone had any annoying experiences lately. Flying Delta, LA<>Mpls

flew down to ca on southwest back in july, overhead bin no issue. same on united to tx and have seen people getting off delta with board in hand. biggest problem i had was the board having to go through xray twice.
from delta's own mouth:
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Skateboards are allowed as carry-on baggage and standard carry-on size restrictions apply. In checked baggage, your board must be housed in a bag. Ski and snowboard equipment are allowed as checked baggage.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: europa1991 on September 15, 2022, 06:09:50 PM
Had no trouble flying with it on a delta flight, helped tho with storage that I was able to just strap it to my duffel bag.  Honestly if you travel with it a lot it doesn’t hurt to get one of these:
https://www.rvca.com/rvca-skate-50l-large-duffel-bag-iv-194687293401.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 15, 2022, 06:19:37 PM
Has anyone flown domestically with a board lately? Usually, I just bring it as one of my carry-ons no problem but wanted to check if anyone had any annoying experiences lately. Flying Delta, LA<>Mpls

I’ve flown fairly recently on Alaska and the only flack I’ve ever received has been from annoying TSA agents. I bought one of those super cheap nylon skateboard bags they have on eBay and I think that helps because everyone at the airport is so accustomed to seeing a bag that it draws significantly less attention than would a naked skateboard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on September 16, 2022, 10:52:12 AM
I'm on my last pair of the Adidas 3st.004.
Sadly they don't make them anymore.
So what's the next simulator Adidas shoe that's still in production ? Or is there a shoe from a different company that is somehow comparable ? Thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on September 16, 2022, 08:45:56 PM
I'm on my last pair of the Adidas 3st.004.
Sadly they don't make them anymore.
So what's the next simulator Adidas shoe that's still in production ? Or is there a shoe from a different company that is somehow comparable ? Thanks

In terms of feel, I think the Puig (the cupsole, not the indoor/vulc) is most similar to the 004.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: chris. on September 17, 2022, 04:13:49 AM
I'm on my last pair of the Adidas 3st.004.
Sadly they don't make them anymore.
So what's the next simulator Adidas shoe that's still in production ? Or is there a shoe from a different company that is somehow comparable ? Thanks

Stumbled across these last night, a few sizes available. https://www.35thave.com/shop/Sale/Shoes/p/Adidas-3ST004-Core-Black-x55626476.htm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on September 17, 2022, 10:48:38 AM
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I'm on my last pair of the Adidas 3st.004.
Sadly they don't make them anymore.
So what's the next simulator Adidas shoe that's still in production ? Or is there a shoe from a different company that is somehow comparable ? Thanks
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Stumbled across these last night, a few sizes available. https://www.35thave.com/shop/Sale/Shoes/p/Adidas-3ST004-Core-Black-x55626476.htm
Thanks man but I'm in the EU and I need a 10.5.
I mean I could buy a pair now in a shop but i was curious, if all of them are gone in a year or so, what's the most similar options that is still in production. I just skate the best in these shoes somehow..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on September 18, 2022, 12:40:21 PM
How do superstar advs fit compared to the traditional non skate model?

The non skate ones are pretty comfortable and feel good, but the sole in the rear arch/heel area is kinda narrow, makes it feel like my ankle is going to roll easily. The advs ones better in that regard or nah?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 18, 2022, 05:24:35 PM
How is HLC wood?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on September 19, 2022, 12:34:43 AM
How do superstar advs fit compared to the traditional non skate model?

The non skate ones are pretty comfortable and feel good, but the sole in the rear arch/heel area is kinda narrow, makes it feel like my ankle is going to roll easily. The advs ones better in that regard or nah?

both shoes use the same sole
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 19, 2022, 12:53:20 AM
How is HLC wood?

It's so-so, would rank it below Clutch quality. Doesn't have the stiffness of BBS nor the flex of PS Stix but not as durable. I have friends who swear by Plan B / Jart decks for the shape but say HLC goes soft fast than they would like, probably 5 - 6 weeks x 2 sessions a week. Good value if they were on clearance but not my first choice for wood.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on September 19, 2022, 04:12:00 AM
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How is HLC wood?
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It's so-so, would rank it below Clutch quality. Doesn't have the stiffness of BBS nor the flex of PS Stix but not as durable. I have friends who swear by Plan B / Jart decks for the shape but say HLC goes soft fast than they would like, probably 5 - 6 weeks x 2 sessions a week. Good value if they were on clearance but not my first choice for wood.

definitely better than clutch imo, would be my second choice after bbs, but i haven't skated boards from many north american woodshops. i like hlc more than the china boards i've had too, dwindle and crail, even though these will usually last longer. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 19, 2022, 06:03:38 AM
How is HLC wood?
Kinda heavy and gets soggy rather fast
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on September 19, 2022, 09:11:20 AM
does anyone know what brand of blank hats DLX uses for its brands?  for example the unstructured 5 panels i see for Krooked & Real always have the fit that i love.... anyone know?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 19, 2022, 04:11:14 PM
does anyone know what brand of blank hats DLX uses for its brands?  for example the unstructured 5 panels i see for Krooked & Real always have the fit that i love.... anyone know?


The DLX caps haven't been on existing blank stock for a while now, maybe over a decade, if I can recall from some info a while back.

They source their own manufacturing for their caps, rather than just getting Yupoong or some other existing brand to put their logo on.

At least that is how they come across, with no other branding and their headwear fits differently to almost every other cap I have tried on.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToshiroTownune on September 19, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
Anone know what board Heitor is riding in this? Looks like a Dane 1, but can't tell for sure.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiYJnSUM-pj/?hl=en
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 19, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
Anone know what board Heitor is riding in this? Looks like a Dane 1, but can't tell for sure.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiYJnSUM-pj/?hl=en

dane 1 painter graphic if i had to guess?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doomstation55 on September 19, 2022, 08:20:07 PM
^^^ Yep sure looks like it


Anyone got a rec for good thicker socks, preferably under like $10 or so or multipack, that fit well for bigger feet (size 12)?
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Post by: fs1/2cab on September 20, 2022, 02:10:14 AM
^^^ Yep sure looks like it


Anyone got a rec for good thicker socks, preferably under like $10 or so or multipack, that fit well for bigger feet (size 12)?

I got you homie. https://www.amazon.de/Mat-Vics-Classic-Arbeitssocken-Thermosocken/dp/B07HJDGBBG/ref=pd_cart_rp_sccl_1/261-8336217-2269930?pd_rd_w=I4OFN&content-id=amzn1.sym.79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_p=79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_r=3CA1ZTSYK3AXYM2EM3JJ&pd_rd_wg=uE5Cr&pd_rd_r=8775c15a-94d3-404e-b358-1903592b53bd&pd_rd_i=B07HJDGBBG&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.de/Mat-Vics-Classic-Arbeitssocken-Thermosocken/dp/B07HJDGBBG/ref=pd_cart_rp_sccl_1/261-8336217-2269930?pd_rd_w=I4OFN&content-id=amzn1.sym.79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_p=79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_r=3CA1ZTSYK3AXYM2EM3JJ&pd_rd_wg=uE5Cr&pd_rd_r=8775c15a-94d3-404e-b358-1903592b53bd&pd_rd_i=B07HJDGBBG&psc=1)

The site is in German, don't wonder. I swear by these socks, they are a bit thicker, holding up well and don't have seams near the toes. They are like 3,50€ a pair but I can't tell you if the price is the same in the US.


I also have a question. Anyone tried to increase the thickness of shoe insoles? Glue some cardboard under the insole or something else? I would like a little thicker padded forefront area on these NB# insoles from the 440.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 20, 2022, 02:29:33 AM
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^^^ Yep sure looks like it


Anyone got a rec for good thicker socks, preferably under like $10 or so or multipack, that fit well for bigger feet (size 12)?
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I got you homie. https://www.amazon.de/Mat-Vics-Classic-Arbeitssocken-Thermosocken/dp/B07HJDGBBG/ref=pd_cart_rp_sccl_1/261-8336217-2269930?pd_rd_w=I4OFN&content-id=amzn1.sym.79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_p=79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_r=3CA1ZTSYK3AXYM2EM3JJ&pd_rd_wg=uE5Cr&pd_rd_r=8775c15a-94d3-404e-b358-1903592b53bd&pd_rd_i=B07HJDGBBG&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.de/Mat-Vics-Classic-Arbeitssocken-Thermosocken/dp/B07HJDGBBG/ref=pd_cart_rp_sccl_1/261-8336217-2269930?pd_rd_w=I4OFN&content-id=amzn1.sym.79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_p=79f846b0-b65c-4dc7-9836-7d03ffd1ed9b&pf_rd_r=3CA1ZTSYK3AXYM2EM3JJ&pd_rd_wg=uE5Cr&pd_rd_r=8775c15a-94d3-404e-b358-1903592b53bd&pd_rd_i=B07HJDGBBG&psc=1)

The site is in German, don't wonder. I swear by these socks, they are a bit thicker, holding up well and don't have seams near the toes. They are like 3,50€ a pair but I can't tell you if the price is the same in the US.


I also have a question. Anyone tried to increase the thickness of shoe insoles? Glue some cardboard under the insole or something else? I would like a little thicker padded forefront area on these NB# insoles from the 440.
There's an Australian company bonds that makes decent enough socks not too expensive. I wear size 13 and they fit good. (Altho being from aus maybe what I consider thicker is just normal for colder areas)

For insoles there's ortholite which is just like a flat piece of memory foam I've put on-top of other insoles and it usually pretty much molds to the shape of the insole below it/ doesn't feel too weird. Vans halfcab pros for a while came with that old style of strobel board under the insole (that's like a thick piece of cardboard) and I always thought they felt pretty shitty but I guess cardboards pretty cheap so no harm in just trying it.
Edit: just had an idea, if you can get your hands on some leather you could cut it to shape. Years ago i got some of those leather sample books from a furniture store but used it to make little Ollie patches. There's a fair bit of leather in one of those books tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 20, 2022, 03:05:37 AM
Yo thanks @Mean salto
I will experiment a bit with cardboard and leather.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on September 20, 2022, 03:18:46 AM
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How is HLC wood?
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definitely better than clutch imo, would be my second choice after bbs

this
slightly heavier (just like BBS boards imo)
i don't get the soggy comments because from my experience they don't get soggy like ps stix boards do
I sold hundreds of them, skated tens of them and only got positive feedbacks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on September 20, 2022, 07:33:44 AM
Somebody can tell me what wb make ace and thunder trucks has?

Example: the wb of the deck is 14, what would turn useing such trucks on each?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on September 20, 2022, 07:36:08 AM
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does anyone know what brand of blank hats DLX uses for its brands?  for example the unstructured 5 panels i see for Krooked & Real always have the fit that i love.... anyone know?
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The DLX caps haven't been on existing blank stock for a while now, maybe over a decade, if I can recall from some info a while back.

They source their own manufacturing for their caps, rather than just getting Yupoong or some other existing brand to put their logo on.

At least that is how they come across, with no other branding and their headwear fits differently to almost every other cap I have tried on.

while i appreciate your always knowledgeable responses, this was not what i wanted to hear lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 20, 2022, 08:02:38 AM
Somebody can tell me what wb make ace and thunder trucks has?

Example: the wb of the deck is 14, what would turn useing such trucks on each?
Thanks in advance!


This thread has pretty much everything like that:


WB on your trucks

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0



In general Ace has a shorter wheelbase (around +2.75 to the existing board wb) while Thunder has one of the longer wheelbases (around +3.25 to the existing wb of the deck).

From the big four, it goes from shortest to longest - Ace (Classic, then AF1) Indy, Thunder, Venture, with forged baseplates extending wb further than standard / team / cast baseplates.


Edit:

A 14" wb deck would make it 16.75 on Ace Classics and 17.25 on Thunder Team editions.  The width of the truck really shouldn't make any difference as they would still have the same angle of kingpin and baseplates, but some people might disagree, depending on their own measurements.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 20, 2022, 08:06:25 AM
Best deck shape/company for pure street?

I'm going to say TOA.

Traffic Hopps are the streets. No one can deny that.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 20, 2022, 08:08:50 AM
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does anyone know what brand of blank hats DLX uses for its brands?  for example the unstructured 5 panels i see for Krooked & Real always have the fit that i love.... anyone know?
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The DLX caps haven't been on existing blank stock for a while now, maybe over a decade, if I can recall from some info a while back.

They source their own manufacturing for their caps, rather than just getting Yupoong or some other existing brand to put their logo on.

At least that is how they come across, with no other branding and their headwear fits differently to almost every other cap I have tried on.
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while i appreciate your always knowledgeable responses, this was not what i wanted to hear lol


Yeah for sure!

Sometimes I know it has been good to track down the generic brand / blank manufacturer of whatever I liked and bought dozens of them, such as Gildan tshirts and Yupoong trucker caps, but others have become more mysterious or difficult to get, mainly because nowdays it works out cheaper if they are a bigger brand and can get everything made from their own patterns from somewhere in the world that doesn't cost a lot in production or care about trademarks / having to pay another company or brand for their products.

I would say though, don't give up and have a look at / check out some of the blank manufacturers, even if they are just online, which is where I found quite a few good deals on cheaper products like hats that I have sewn patches on over the years.

In AU, AS Colour has a pretty good range of their own brand blanks, but I often used to look through wholesale uniform manufacturers websites for similar things, many of whom are based in USA and other places round the world.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on September 20, 2022, 09:07:54 AM
cheers broski, always class
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 20, 2022, 07:42:23 PM
I'm looking to buy some new long sleeve tees since mine are getting pretty ragged. I like the fit Stussy and Polar have, slightly oversized without it looking like you're wearing a dress. Anyone know of any brands that have a similar fit? I'm in my 30s and am pretty short and am trying to strike a balance between comfort and dressing my age. Uniqlo used to be my go to but it seems like they changed the fit on the U line recently.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on September 20, 2022, 10:16:08 PM
anyone know what blank trucker hats dlx used to use? the old made in u.s.a. ones had my favorite fit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: typeischeap on September 21, 2022, 06:41:29 AM
Standard or GT Blazers for someone coming from Vans/NB vulcs but has never skated Nike? Is the taping the only difference?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2022, 10:24:28 AM
For you Mini Logo truck lovers:

Do you have problems with your pivot cups? I decided to give these trucks another shot and the stock pivot cups (hard white plastic ones) didn't fit the yoke properly, I could see the metal bit wiggling around even with the trucks at medium tightness. And the board was rattling like crazy almost like I didn't have a pivot cup, you know the sound.

I swapped it out for some generic after market ones which helped to dampen the rattle but I could still see the yoke shifting around a lot.

The trucks pinch really nicely, hoping to fix the pivot cups so I can keep riding them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on September 21, 2022, 11:30:02 AM
I like the pointy baker shape. But does anyone make something similar with steep kicks or concave?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 21, 2022, 12:09:32 PM
I feel like the HCL Sk8Mafia decks I've seen are pretty pointy and steep.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on September 21, 2022, 04:34:16 PM
For you Mini Logo truck lovers:

Do you have problems with your pivot cups? I decided to give these trucks another shot and the stock pivot cups (hard white plastic ones) didn't fit the yoke properly, I could see the metal bit wiggling around even with the trucks at medium tightness. And the board was rattling like crazy almost like I didn't have a pivot cup, you know the sound.

I swapped it out for some generic after market ones which helped to dampen the rattle but I could still see the yoke shifting around a lot.

The trucks pinch really nicely, hoping to fix the pivot cups so I can keep riding them.

If the pivot sits loosely in the pivot seat, I doubt you'll be able to permanently fix the issue. I started having the same problem with Indy when they moved to China, and no matter what cups I threw in there, the extra play would eventually make the pivot chew through it.
My longest lasting solutions was a cut down Krux pivot cup (they're too tall, but snug), and RipTide. You can get RipTide cups specifically for Mini Logo now, so it might be worth the investment. I, however, was forced to painfully lazer off the giant iron cross tattoo on my forhead after a decade and a half because of this very issue.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 21, 2022, 06:44:46 PM
I like the pointy baker shape. But does anyone make something similar with steep kicks or concave?


What size board do you ride?

Some of the shapes are the same across other BBS wood, some are not.


As with all BBS (and quite a few other woodshops) even between half a dozen of the same board, there are differences in concave as to where they were in the press, so some are going to feel steeper and some not so steep, from the 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 sizes I have had pass through my hands.

I guess too it comes down to how a concave is felt, either in the angle of the kicks and or the cross width of the board, but both were different.

Finding a steeper version or a more mellow version is sometimes easier said than done, such as when I got half a dozen of each to compare and then put the steeper ones aside for someone who prefers that, kept the most mellow ones for myself and the rest went on the board wall.


If you were talking FA steep, then no there are not so many pointy boards in those concaves that I have seen, but the more "normal" popsicle shapes are fairly common across a number of different brands / woodshops.

A few older boards I had were ridiculously pointy and steep, like the Zoo York boards from a few years ago, but I don't think there is comparable current stock to say "Go find that board" as they are on different wood now.

I guess too it depends where you are, what you have access to in the way of local shops you can go into or even finding something to your liking in concave first, then seeing if that woodshop makes boards in dimensions you like.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 21, 2022, 07:08:50 PM
anyone know what blank trucker hats dlx used to use? the old made in u.s.a. ones had my favorite fit.


I still have a box of old USA made DLX caps, but in going through them, there is no branding on them of who they used, besides the Made in USA across the snap back, but I feel like there was one or two even older ones that had a brand name across the inside of the snap back plastic so I went to dig them out and check.

Not sure if they were DLX caps, or Black Label / similar brands but some of these backs have this info:

Legend, Made in USA
K-Products, Orange City  800-369-4675


The more common option now that I have had quite a few of which are almost the same are the Yupoong trucker cap 6006 if I recall correctly.


https://www.capwholesalers.com/budget-caps-yupoong-flat-bill-classic-5-panel-truc

https://www.capwholesalers.com/yupoong-flat-bill-classic-5-panel-trucker-camo


Or this specific colourway which was the Grosso fav:


(https://www.capwholesalers.com/shop/images/th2_q.27213.0-blk_wht.jpg)


https://www.capwholesalers.com/yupoong-flat-billed-two-tone-trucker-cap


Even just looking through that is interesting in itself too:

https://www.capwholesalers.com/trucker-mesh-hats


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2022, 07:16:14 PM
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For you Mini Logo truck lovers:

Do you have problems with your pivot cups? I decided to give these trucks another shot and the stock pivot cups (hard white plastic ones) didn't fit the yoke properly, I could see the metal bit wiggling around even with the trucks at medium tightness. And the board was rattling like crazy almost like I didn't have a pivot cup, you know the sound.

I swapped it out for some generic after market ones which helped to dampen the rattle but I could still see the yoke shifting around a lot.

The trucks pinch really nicely, hoping to fix the pivot cups so I can keep riding them.
[close]

If the pivot sits loosely in the pivot seat, I doubt you'll be able to permanently fix the issue. I started having the same problem with Indy when they moved to China, and no matter what cups I threw in there, the extra play would eventually make the pivot chew through it.
My longest lasting solutions was a cut down Krux pivot cup (they're too tall, but snug), and RipTide. You can get RipTide cups specifically for Mini Logo now, so it might be worth the investment. I, however, was forced to painfully lazer off the giant iron cross tattoo on my forhead after a decade and a half because of this very issue.

Krux might be the answer, the cost of RipTide bushings locally are the price of 1 ML truck!

I recall the last time I rode these the generic aftermarket bushing I had got chewed through after a few sessions.

Did I get a lemon truck or have other ML users experienced this too? I usually don't fuck with my trucks beyond washers along the axle, but the stock pivot cups were bad enough for me to post about it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 21, 2022, 07:40:38 PM
Why am I Shadow Banned from 9 club chat?

Why won't they use the music I sent like a decade ago?

They hate me. I barely remember Roger. Maybe I did something bad to him long ago? I doubt he'd remember me. I was introverted AF.

I remember when I got banned. I barely did anything. The show was still small and I was regular chatting. Tim had just arrived on the scene.

I think Tim hates slap too.

I made a budget or buttery song and everything too. I understand why they don't use that one because no one asked for that but the week after I sent the first 4 songs they said they was out of songs.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on September 21, 2022, 08:29:22 PM
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I like the pointy baker shape. But does anyone make something similar with steep kicks or concave?
[close]


What size board do you ride?

Some of the shapes are the same across other BBS wood, some are not.


As with all BBS (and quite a few other woodshops) even between half a dozen of the same board, there are differences in concave as to where they were in the press, so some are going to feel steeper and some not so steep, from the 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 sizes I have had pass through my hands.

I guess too it comes down to how a concave is felt, either in the angle of the kicks and or the cross width of the board, but both were different.

Finding a steeper version or a more mellow version is sometimes easier said than done, such as when I got half a dozen of each to compare and then put the steeper ones aside for someone who prefers that, kept the most mellow ones for myself and the rest went on the board wall.


If you were talking FA steep, then no there are not so many pointy boards in those concaves that I have seen, but the more "normal" popsicle shapes are fairly common across a number of different brands / woodshops.

A few older boards I had were ridiculously pointy and steep, like the Zoo York boards from a few years ago, but I don't think there is comparable current stock to say "Go find that board" as they are on different wood now.

I guess too it depends where you are, what you have access to in the way of local shops you can go into or even finding something to your liking in concave first, then seeing if that woodshop makes boards in dimensions you like.

I tend to bounce between 8.25 and 8.38.
I like steeper kicks (nose and tail, similar to FA) but steeper concave does feel good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on September 21, 2022, 08:31:59 PM
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anyone know what blank trucker hats dlx used to use? the old made in u.s.a. ones had my favorite fit.
[close]


I still have a box of old USA made DLX caps, but in going through them, there is no branding on them of who they used, besides the Made in USA across the snap back, but I feel like there was one or two even older ones that had a brand name across the inside of the snap back plastic so I went to dig them out and check.

Not sure if they were DLX caps, or Black Label / similar brands but some of these backs have this info:

Legend, Made in USA
K-Products, Orange City  800-369-4675


The more common option now that I have had quite a few of which are almost the same are the Yupoong trucker cap 6006 if I recall correctly.


https://www.capwholesalers.com/budget-caps-yupoong-flat-bill-classic-5-panel-truc

https://www.capwholesalers.com/yupoong-flat-bill-classic-5-panel-trucker-camo


Or this specific colourway which was the Grosso fav:


(https://www.capwholesalers.com/shop/images/th2_q.27213.0-blk_wht.jpg)


https://www.capwholesalers.com/yupoong-flat-billed-two-tone-trucker-cap


Even just looking through that is interesting in itself too:

https://www.capwholesalers.com/trucker-mesh-hats

much appreciated! i figured you would have some good info.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on September 22, 2022, 06:41:12 PM
Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on September 22, 2022, 06:51:42 PM
Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.
I put just one rail on so that I can do hurricane grinds. I put it on the toe side, but do hurricanes switch so I have to ride the board going forward while I’m switch. I don’t like two on at once but I like one a lot.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kneesles on September 22, 2022, 08:15:43 PM
For you Mini Logo truck lovers:

Do you have problems with your pivot cups? I decided to give these trucks another shot and the stock pivot cups (hard white plastic ones) didn't fit the yoke properly, I could see the metal bit wiggling around even with the trucks at medium tightness. And the board was rattling like crazy almost like I didn't have a pivot cup, you know the sound.

I swapped it out for some generic after market ones which helped to dampen the rattle but I could still see the yoke shifting around a lot.

The trucks pinch really nicely, hoping to fix the pivot cups so I can keep riding them.

I noticed the same issue when i first started riding ML trucks. The stock pivot cup was to hard for my liking as well so i threw some old stock indy pivot cups in and i haven't had a problem since. If the new aftermarket indy pivots are similar to the old ones they should fit like a glove.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 22, 2022, 09:31:40 PM
Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.

Yes! I skate curbs a lot. I love boardslides a lot. I am not all that good at skating. The more predictable and stable slide that they offer is great IMO. They do make rock n rolls & such a bit more sketchy due to the slippiness but that’s a trade off I’m ok with. I don’t really notice the bulkiness but I’m not flipping my board much at all and I prefer a hefty pop anyway. I plan on running rails till infinity.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 23, 2022, 09:39:52 AM
Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.

Yeah rails are great, especially for your type of skating. I have a dedicated curb set up with two rails, and an atv type board with one toe side rail. even one rail makes a huge difference in the consistency on your slides. my local has a terrible, sticky flatbar that's impossible to slide without a rail unless you wax it a ton. with one raiil i can just lean forward a bit and slide through it.

Rails do make your board sound pretty dead sometimes and definitely adds some weight, but i think the trade off is worth it, and I just keep a "street" board for flips and grinds if i want to get *~*tech*~*

Also, keeping the graphic clean is sort of nice if it's one you like
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 23, 2022, 11:22:39 AM
cons fastbreak sizing - tts or size up/down? i wear a 10.5 in 440s these days if it helps

edit: homie with same feetsies answered my question, ty @LebowskisRug

Let me introduce you to my friend Cons then- consistently confusing across all models. I sized down a full size for some CTAS, true to size for fastbreaks, up a half size for Louie's, then one stars down a half size depending on which model they were.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on September 23, 2022, 03:51:31 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/RTTB1G4/F94190-BC-4-B1-F-400-A-9297-0164-F89-FB497.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RTTB1G4)

Update: we are rail people now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 23, 2022, 04:16:28 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/RTTB1G4/F94190-BC-4-B1-F-400-A-9297-0164-F89-FB497.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RTTB1G4)

Update: we are rail people now

hell yeah. nice placement too. remember to lean forward
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheLowerBack on September 23, 2022, 06:40:04 PM
Has anyone done a single rail down the center of the wheelbase?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on September 23, 2022, 08:34:18 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/RTTB1G4/F94190-BC-4-B1-F-400-A-9297-0164-F89-FB497.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RTTB1G4)

Update: we are rail people now
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hell yeah. nice placement too. remember to lean forward
You can say that again!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 23, 2022, 10:23:03 PM
Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? If so which one and which workout do you set it for?

A friend of mine runs and does marathons, claims he can burn 1200 calories during a 2 hour skate session. Wanted to test it out for myself.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 23, 2022, 11:45:42 PM
Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? If so which one and which workout do you set it for?

A friend of mine runs and does marathons, claims he can burn 1200 calories during a 2 hour skate session. Wanted to test it out for myself.

Yes. Apple Watch. I use the skateboarding workout on the Apple Watch fitness app and lately I’ve used the Sports Tracker app too. 1200 kcal on a 2 hour skate session sounds pretty normal to me if you’re going hard enough.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 24, 2022, 01:50:56 AM
Has anyone done a single rail down the center of the wheelbase?
Two rails on a little cruiser board. It was a friend's and they wanted to put rails on a zip zinger someone joked you might as well just put them right in the middle so they did. Made it really easy to do boardslide to feeble type tricks but risky because youre just boardsliding on an inch of plastic so if you accidentally drop to the toe or heel edge it's a big jolt.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on September 24, 2022, 02:55:32 AM
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Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? If so which one and which workout do you set it for?

A friend of mine runs and does marathons, claims he can burn 1200 calories during a 2 hour skate session. Wanted to test it out for myself.
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Yes. Apple Watch. I use the skateboarding workout on the Apple Watch fitness app and lately I’ve used the Sports Tracker app too. 1200 kcal on a 2 hour skate session sounds pretty normal to me if you’re going hard enough.
I use a Apple watch too. Haven’t tried any third party apps, just the Fitness app on IOS.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 24, 2022, 06:14:49 AM
Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? If so which one and which workout do you set it for?

A friend of mine runs and does marathons, claims he can burn 1200 calories during a 2 hour skate session. Wanted to test it out for myself.

Apple Watch here too. I always turn on the “skating” workout. Yesterday I skated some ledges for an hour and 20 minutes and it says “979 active calories, 1137 total calories.” I don’t know exactly what the kath is based on, but I did average 140bpm so.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on September 24, 2022, 06:58:02 AM
Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on September 24, 2022, 07:02:11 AM
probably because they are the highest and offer more wheel clearance
geometry and the way they turn might be another reason
and add some marketing in the mix
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on September 24, 2022, 07:28:32 AM
Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?

Because Indy is/was the only one caring to sponsor vert skaters
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 24, 2022, 07:37:27 AM
They're the tallest highs so they can fit big ass wheels. Good kingpin clearance so you don't hang up and body yourself to flat.

I mean Jimmy Wilkins rides Thunder and back in the day I think pros actually rode Fury's
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on September 24, 2022, 06:51:58 PM
what’s the sizing on louie’s? chucks i go half size down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 25, 2022, 10:17:06 AM
what’s the sizing on louie’s? chucks i go half size down

I've heard TTS OR 0.5 down since it's the same sole as  chucks, which everyone typically goes 0.5 down on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on September 25, 2022, 11:53:27 AM
What ever happened to A Dream Deferred Skateboards
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 25, 2022, 01:37:57 PM
What ever happened to A Dream Deferred Skateboards

It was Deferred.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 25, 2022, 03:36:18 PM
what’s the sizing on louie’s? chucks i go half size down

Yeah I went a half size down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 25, 2022, 09:41:51 PM
I've noticed more and more men wearing shoulder bags and purse type things, but first saw this with skaters did the trend get started by skaters?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sk8n hugon on September 25, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
For sure started by skaters. Hip packs in the 80s were really popular with skaters before blowing up too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 26, 2022, 04:18:46 PM
I've noticed more and more men wearing shoulder bags and purse type things, but first saw this with skaters did the trend get started by skaters?

damn is this cycle already happening again? feel like just 2-3 years ago this was "the hot trend". maybe i live in too hip of a place tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: skatebruh on September 26, 2022, 04:23:21 PM
What do these non-skaters keep in their bags?

I keep skate tool, wax, and weed in mine.

Is it just weed?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on September 26, 2022, 04:56:08 PM
What do these non-skaters keep in their bags?

I keep skate tool, wax, and weed in mine.

Is it just weed?
I skate, obviously, but when I'm not skating I typically carry a tote with at least a jacket/sweater and a water bottle in it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on September 26, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
Does boiling bushings that are basically broken in make them any softer? (Indy 92a blues to be specific)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 26, 2022, 08:56:32 PM
Has any artist here lost the ability to paint and draw. Especially draw?

I fucking can't do it. I can feel the nothing bleeding into my skating too sometimes.

It feels like my bearings are slowing. Then I stop pushing and start tictacing around like my name is Mr 1987 and I'm stuck in the deep end of the egg bowl.

Like some frickin can't run or punch in a nightmare shit. The bricks grabbing at my trucks and shit like fly paper.

I'm guitaring extremely well and writing mad tunes.

I wanna paint a dope thing tho. I throw down my pencil at like 50% there.

Trying to complete a drawing  feels like fucking someone you don't like anymore for longer that the grudge will carry your attention
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on September 27, 2022, 02:06:09 AM
Has any artist here lost the ability to paint and draw. Especially draw?

I fucking can't do it. I can feel the nothing bleeding into my skating too sometimes.

It feels like my bearings are slowing. Then I stop pushing and start tictacing around like my name is Mr 1987 and I'm stuck in the deep end of the egg bowl.

Like some frickin can't run or punch in a nightmare shit. The bricks grabbing at my trucks and shit like fly paper.

I'm guitaring extremely well and writing mad tunes.

I wanna paint a dope thing tho. I throw down my pencil at like 50% there.

Trying to complete a drawing  feels like fucking someone you don't like anymore for longer that the grudge will carry your attention
Yes.
Blame it on lack of practice and being too hard on myself.
Should just draw for fun, but can’t do it anymore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on September 27, 2022, 03:52:12 AM
Does boiling bushings that are basically broken in make them any softer? (Indy 92a blues to be specific)

Yes, but there might be a problem. My experience:
If you put them in boiling water for 1min or less, they will be super soft, but only as long as they are hot.
If you put them in for a few minutes, they will be soft forever, but loose every bit of rebound. Pretty much unusable.

So I'd recommend trying it for maybe 1-2 minutes to start. I did it with indy 88a because they sucked anyway, but now they're mush
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 27, 2022, 05:16:05 AM
I know that this has been asked several times but still: any euro pal had traveled intra EU with the board on your carry on?
Did you had any issues?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 27, 2022, 07:21:33 AM
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Has any artist here lost the ability to paint and draw. Especially draw?

I fucking can't do it. I can feel the nothing bleeding into my skating too sometimes.

It feels like my bearings are slowing. Then I stop pushing and start tictacing around like my name is Mr 1987 and I'm stuck in the deep end of the egg bowl.

Like some frickin can't run or punch in a nightmare shit. The bricks grabbing at my trucks and shit like fly paper.

I'm guitaring extremely well and writing mad tunes.

I wanna paint a dope thing tho. I throw down my pencil at like 50% there.

Trying to complete a drawing  feels like fucking someone you don't like anymore for longer that the grudge will carry your attention
[close]
Yes.
Blame it on lack of practice and being too hard on myself.
Should just draw for fun, but can’t do it anymore.

It hurts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 27, 2022, 07:26:27 AM
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Has any artist here lost the ability to paint and draw. Especially draw?

I fucking can't do it. I can feel the nothing bleeding into my skating too sometimes.

It feels like my bearings are slowing. Then I stop pushing and start tictacing around like my name is Mr 1987 and I'm stuck in the deep end of the egg bowl.

Like some frickin can't run or punch in a nightmare shit. The bricks grabbing at my trucks and shit like fly paper.

I'm guitaring extremely well and writing mad tunes.

I wanna paint a dope thing tho. I throw down my pencil at like 50% there.

Trying to complete a drawing  feels like fucking someone you don't like anymore for longer that the grudge will carry your attention
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Yes.
Blame it on lack of practice and being too hard on myself.
Should just draw for fun, but can’t do it anymore.
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It hurts
Draw what? I like drawing sorta Pictionary style like get an idea and quickly draw it down on a little scrap of paper or something. Try and get the idea down as fast as you can.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on September 27, 2022, 08:22:19 AM
i can never seem to find this thread when i need it

does anyone know what adidas shoes brian peacock is wearing at the beginning of his primitive define part?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on September 27, 2022, 08:57:10 AM
i can never seem to find this thread when i need it

does anyone know what adidas shoes brian peacock is wearing at the beginning of his primitive define part?

(https://cdn.sanity.io/images/c1chvb1i/production/87c44722167fcf0135118fbf5a05120cb500edae-1100x735.jpg)

Adidas x FA experiment 1
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: huggernaut on September 27, 2022, 09:10:22 AM
Anyone have a specific grip knife or razor they like for grip tape?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 27, 2022, 09:29:07 AM
Anyone have a specific grip knife or razor they like for grip tape?

i have a paring knife i got from goodwill ages ago that i really like using. it has a fat enough handle to sit in my hand comfortably and i just sharpen it every so often. not the most portable since i don't have a sheath or anything for it, and if i'm out i just have a razor(s) on me anyway.

tl;dr- i like paring knives personally
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
Anyone have a specific grip knife or razor they like for grip tape?

Regular penknife does the job, break the joints when it get blunt or swap out the blades as needed. Narrow enough so you get a clean cut, just make sure you get a big enough one, the blade on the tiny ones flex making the cut a chore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dwyck on September 27, 2022, 10:40:40 AM
I know that this has been asked several times but still: any euro pal had traveled intra EU with the board on your carry on?
Did you had any issues?

Pre-Brexit I flew roundtrip Manchester to Toulouse with a board, no problems there. It was on Thomas Crowne though which is a budget airline that no longer exists
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on September 27, 2022, 11:26:52 AM
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Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?
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Because Indy is/was the only one caring to sponsor vert skaters


Didnt fury have like rune or Bob burnquist and the Birdman or some shit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on September 27, 2022, 11:46:16 AM
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Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?
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Because Indy is/was the only one caring to sponsor vert skaters
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Didnt fury have like rune or Bob burnquist and the Birdman or some shit

All of the above I think.

Lots of vert guys ride pools too and Indys def grind the best on curbs/pool coping imo. Not trying to start a truck war in here, I recognize the pros/cons of all trucks. That is my shoes and gear section disclaimer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on September 27, 2022, 12:04:54 PM
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Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?
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Because Indy is/was the only one caring to sponsor vert skaters
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Didnt fury have like rune or Bob burnquist and the Birdman or some shit
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All of the above I think.

Lots of vert guys ride pools too and Indys def grind the best on curbs/pool coping imo. Not trying to start a truck war in here, I recognize the pros/cons of all trucks. That is my shoes and gear section disclaimer.
Another reason could possibly be Indy always made wide trucks where other brands from the mid 90s until about 2010 didn't make anything over an 8 (often only making a 7.5 and a 7.75). Not so much vert but guys like drehoble, Speyer, Cardiel all rode ventures but swapped over to Indy.

Fury def had pretty much every big vert skater and was maybe sort of Lance's thing but I never saw any wide pairs until the brand was basically already dead. They also had pretty much every big name street skater too if it means anything.  Kinda the truck version of ricta
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on September 27, 2022, 12:13:08 PM
Found this cool t-shirt with a formula car graphic. It says "Bluelight high performance skateboard wheels"

Does anyone know anything about this brand?


(http://ibb.co/PTPbTjp)

(http://ibb.co/jZnQFz4)

Once again I don't know what I'm doing wrong posting images...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 27, 2022, 12:51:40 PM
Are the Baker B2 "steep" decks actually steep since their normal decks are hella mellow? What other brands or shapes would you liken them to?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 27, 2022, 03:15:00 PM
who's responsible for the recent wave of cutesy shoe ads? not hating, but i see that trend, you can't hide from me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: billyerlife on September 27, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
I know that this has been asked several times but still: any euro pal had traveled intra EU with the board on your carry on?
Did you had any issues?

I have had mixed luck. A couple time, the people at ticketing let me go, then I get to security and they tell me to go check it. From then on I have just checked it to avoid the hassle. You usually get one free checked bag anyway, so if I'm only bringing a backpack the board is it, they'll put it in a big plastic bag, otherwise I chuck it into the duffle with whatever else.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 27, 2022, 06:47:20 PM
Are the Baker B2 "steep" decks actually steep since their normal decks are hella mellow? What other brands or shapes would you liken them to?


I got one of the B2 8.38 (8.375) on a whim when I saw one was on clearance.

I feel like it is a bit of a let down, but maybe because it is closer to 8.25 than my usual 8.38 boards, with 14.38 wb (not 14.5 as listed) and is longer when compared to other 32.25 listed boards.

As for the concave and shape, it is closer to BBS wood Alien Workshop than anything else with longer blunt kicks, but also similar to a Real Full SE shape I or II stamped boards.  Not overly steep, definitely way less than a couple of FA boards I have, but overall is definitely more square and steeper than the other BBS 8.38 boards that I usually ride.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2022, 07:09:19 PM
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Does anyone know, why almost every vert skater uses independent trucks? I suppose most of them ride tight trucks, so turning might not be the answer?
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Because Indy is/was the only one caring to sponsor vert skaters
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Didnt fury have like rune or Bob burnquist and the Birdman or some shit
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All of the above I think.

Lots of vert guys ride pools too and Indys def grind the best on curbs/pool coping imo. Not trying to start a truck war in here, I recognize the pros/cons of all trucks. That is my shoes and gear section disclaimer.
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Another reason could possibly be Indy always made wide trucks where other brands from the mid 90s until about 2010 didn't make anything over an 8 (often only making a 7.5 and a 7.75). Not so much vert but guys like drehoble, Speyer, Cardiel all rode ventures but swapped over to Indy.

Fury def had pretty much every big vert skater and was maybe sort of Lance's thing but I never saw any wide pairs until the brand was basically already dead. They also had pretty much every big name street skater too if it means anything.  Kinda the truck version of ricta

I think Arto was on for a bit too in the mid 2000s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on September 27, 2022, 09:13:07 PM
Anyone who skated the non skate cons…how the fuck do you get the fuzz off the bottom of the shoes??? I’m slipping all over the place it’s awful. concrete park was like ice skating
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on September 28, 2022, 09:09:44 AM
Do you guys think putting 159s with conical fulls on a 8.38 would be pushing it?  Its pretty chill on an 8.5 right now but I don't wanna make something totally wack
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on September 28, 2022, 09:20:08 AM
Do you guys think putting 159s with conical fulls on a 8.38 would be pushing it?  Its pretty chill on an 8.5 right now but I don't wanna make something totally wack

Might be a bit monster truck but go for it. If you're comfortable with it on an 8.5" the 3mm difference shouldn't be too big of a deal.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 28, 2022, 09:24:08 AM
who's responsible for the recent wave of cutesy shoe ads? not hating, but i see that trend, you can't hide from me.

Care to share an example?  Not sure I've seen any lately or know what you mean
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 28, 2022, 09:33:33 AM
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Do you guys think putting 159s with conical fulls on a 8.38 would be pushing it?  Its pretty chill on an 8.5 right now but I don't wanna make something totally wack
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Might be a bit monster truck but go for it. If you're comfortable with it on an 8.5" the 3mm difference shouldn't be too big of a deal.

I know a dude that gets pretty tech and was on an 8.5 with 169s and 56s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 28, 2022, 01:27:48 PM
Anyone have any experience with sizing on the puig indoor? Only other adidas shoe I’ve skated was the suicu and they were true to size ish
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 28, 2022, 01:30:34 PM
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who's responsible for the recent wave of cutesy shoe ads? not hating, but i see that trend, you can't hide from me.
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Care to share an example?  Not sure I've seen any lately or know what you mean

of course, i had a third but i'm all work brained right now so i forgot, but i swear there was a third lighthearted shoe ad posted recently other than the nike and nb

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci-bnHNgZ_m/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CivU6SgroOs/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 29, 2022, 12:14:56 AM
Anybody tried those brsb?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on September 29, 2022, 06:06:42 AM
Who has rails similar to Pig?

I've purchased powell ribs and some non brand rails in the past, but they've all been thicker than pig. Pig seems perfect but I just want to spread the money around to some other brands.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on September 29, 2022, 07:00:14 AM
Enjoi rails are great (shape, bolts quality) but slightly thicker

Not an answer to your request because they are thicker (3M antivibration foam with tape)  but  most people around here consider the Film rails to be the best
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on September 29, 2022, 07:55:34 AM
Enjoi rails are great (shape, bolts quality) but slightly thicker

Not an answer to your request because they are thicker (3M antivibration foam with tape)  but  most people around here consider the Film rails to be the best

They’re mad long though. I haven’t dared to set up mine on any deck yet cuz I’m dreading railbite. Maybe with a 15” (or 14.75”) wheelbase they could be doable.

I’m skating Aces with risers so, the wheelbite mark are pushed in a lot more than in forged Venture lows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on September 29, 2022, 11:08:46 AM
Who has rails similar to Pig?

I've purchased powell ribs and some non brand rails in the past, but they've all been thicker than pig. Pig seems perfect but I just want to spread the money around to some other brands.

Been a while since I've skated Pig rails, but they're pretty short compared to Rib Bones, right? Cause if so, Dogtown rails would be your best bet as a Pig rail alternative.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FGO925 on September 29, 2022, 11:45:06 AM
Anyone have any experience with sizing on the puig indoor? Only other adidas shoe I’ve skated was the suicu and they were true to size ish

I’d love to know as well. The first adidas puig shoes were some of the best I’ve ever skated. IMO the most recent ones look garbage and have that douchey heel design. But the newest indoor version look more simple and all around amazing. Got my eye on the cream/leather and the grey as well
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 29, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
I'd steer clear, from talking to people that have skated them and looking at Wear Tested's 10hr review they are not made to last. 10hrs of skating for a lot of people is 3-5 sessions. One person I know that gets them for free ends up using them for 7-10 total sessions before they're toast and they're often busting seams after sesh 2-3.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 29, 2022, 01:38:13 PM
I have a new set of Spitfire 52mm Classic Fulls. 1 wheel seems to have a bearing seat that is too big and the bearing will not press all the way in. I thought of using some kind of degreaser like WD40 to ease it in and not get residue or maybe 95% isopropyl so it dries.

Any recs? Should I lightly sand it to remove some of the excess urethane?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 30, 2022, 01:45:40 AM
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I know that this has been asked several times but still: any euro pal had traveled intra EU with the board on your carry on?
Did you had any issues?
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Pre-Brexit I flew roundtrip Manchester to Toulouse with a board, no problems there. It was on Thomas Crowne though which is a budget airline that no longer exists
Thx man
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PisstickleTypeExperience on September 30, 2022, 06:59:17 AM
Anyone know who makes Welcome's grip tape? Anyone used it before?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on September 30, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
I have a new set of Spitfire 52mm Classic Fulls. 1 wheel seems to have a bearing seat that is too big and the bearing will not press all the way in. I thought of using some kind of degreaser like WD40 to ease it in and not get residue or maybe 95% isopropyl so it dries.

Any recs? Should I lightly sand it to remove some of the excess urethane?

Probably better off just using a cue tip with some sort of oil than sanding. I’ve done a single drop of speed cream on a cue tip and had it work sufficiently without picking up extra dirt when riding.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 30, 2022, 02:58:42 PM
I have a new set of Spitfire 52mm Classic Fulls. 1 wheel seems to have a bearing seat that is too big and the bearing will not press all the way in. I thought of using some kind of degreaser like WD40 to ease it in and not get residue or maybe 95% isopropyl so it dries.

Any recs? Should I lightly sand it to remove some of the excess urethane?


Any chance of returning to store for warranty?

Sounds exactly like the sort of issues that have been causing people problems with the occasional Spitfire wheel mold not working out to be true.

At least that before going to town on a fix might get you a new and fully working set of wheels.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on September 30, 2022, 04:12:58 PM
Anyone have any experience with sizing on the puig indoor? Only other adidas shoe I’ve skated was the suicu and they were true to size ish

True to size. I will warn, however, that the Indoor are quite different than the cupsole version. The counter is pretty loose and slippy around the heel, the whole shoe feels very thin and flexible, and there’s not much rubber around the front, so they don’t look like they’ll last very long. I ride my cruiser to work in them and I wear them to hang out, but I don’t skate much in them.

Really, they’re like the opposite of the cupsole Puigs, which are stiff and solid, have a great heel, and feel very supportive compared to the Indoors.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on September 30, 2022, 04:11:59 PM
Anyone have any experience with sizing on the puig indoor? Only other adidas shoe I’ve skated was the suicu and they were true to size ish

True to size. I will warn, however, that the Indoor are quite different than the cupsole version. The counter is pretty loose and slippy around the heel, the whole shoe feels very thin and flexible, and there’s not much rubber around the front, so they don’t look like they’ll last very long. I ride my cruiser to work in them and I wear them to hang out, but I don’t skate much in them.

Really, they’re like the opposite of the cupsole Puigs, which are stiff and solid, have a great heel, and feel very supportive compared to the Indoors.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 30, 2022, 10:29:26 PM
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Anyone have a specific grip knife or razor they like for grip tape?
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i have a paring knife i got from goodwill ages ago that i really like using. it has a fat enough handle to sit in my hand comfortably and i just sharpen it every so often. not the most portable since i don't have a sheath or anything for it, and if i'm out i just have a razor(s) on me anyway.

tl;dr- i like paring knives personally

I use this orange screwdriver. Been using it since 2013. It's got a little crook groove.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Justinshreds on October 02, 2022, 06:42:11 PM
Is there a way to tell which primitive decks are BBS wood? I always thought just buy "original" graphics and stay away from colab boards, but my buddy just got a Prod deck (white face with gold skull graphic) and it wasnt BBS. The sticker said made in USA.

Also, I just skated a Primitive 8.38 BBS board and loved the shape. Does anyone know if that size and shape is used by other BBS brands?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on October 02, 2022, 11:24:03 PM
Anyone have any good luck with the regular height ace hollows? Wanna get some as my AF1 55s are almost toast but a little concerned about QC stuff. Right now it’s between Ace hollows and Indy Hollows as i’m too chicken to go for ventures (which look so cool). Any advice/insight is appreciated
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2022, 12:06:54 AM
Is there a way to tell which primitive decks are BBS wood? I always thought just buy "original" graphics and stay away from colab boards, but my buddy just got a Prod deck (white face with gold skull graphic) and it wasnt BBS. The sticker said made in USA.

Also, I just skated a Primitive 8.38 BBS board and loved the shape. Does anyone know if that size and shape is used by other BBS brands?

Primitive uses a few woodshops, from the woodshop thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
Primitive* (US 2021)   ……….   ……….   USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Primitive* (US 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS

If it says made in USA it's likely BBS, but actually Mexico. I've seen team logo decks with the Made in USA / Mexico sticker, some with a Made in China sticker, so your best bet is to check it out in store.

Shape wise Primitive has unique dimensions for their 8.25 and 8.38:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.25.jpg?15353538998564243840)
Haven't had luck finding dimensions on an 8.25, but some generic Generator mold decks (Sci-Fi, Black Label) are 31.8" x 14.125. Real did 1 season of the Tropical Dream Oval which are as close as you can get to the Primitive 8.25 shape.
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2021/10-rs-sm21-cat-tropical-dream-ovals.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.38.jpg?13283661742716578995)
Not seen a 8.38 with similar dimensions in the wild either,
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 03, 2022, 02:35:27 AM
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Is there a way to tell which primitive decks are BBS wood? I always thought just buy "original" graphics and stay away from colab boards, but my buddy just got a Prod deck (white face with gold skull graphic) and it wasnt BBS. The sticker said made in USA.

Also, I just skated a Primitive 8.38 BBS board and loved the shape. Does anyone know if that size and shape is used by other BBS brands?
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Primitive uses a few woodshops, from the woodshop thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
Primitive* (US 2021)   ……….   ……….   USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Primitive* (US 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS

If it says made in USA it's likely BBS, but actually Mexico. I've seen team logo decks with the Made in USA / Mexico sticker, some with a Made in China sticker, so your best bet is to check it out in store.

Shape wise Primitive has unique dimensions for their 8.25 and 8.38:
Haven't had luck finding dimensions on an 8.25, but some generic Generator mold decks (Sci-Fi, Black Label) are 31.8" x 14.125. Real did 1 season of the Tropical Dream Oval which are as close as you can get to the Primitive 8.25 shape.

Not seen a 8.38 with similar dimensions in the wild either,


I haven't heard many more USA boards so that might have been a once off thing.

Someone who got one said they were certainly different to BBS / Made in Mexico marked boards.

Yeah the others Made in China are different concave and ever so slightly different dimensions, but more of a Dwindle like concave.


As to that shape, I think April has one similar but I haven't checked to see if they were still around, but April did have similar length, shorter wheelbases with longer kicks.

Alien Workshop / Habitat and now Metal Skateboards also have the fairly long boards, short wheelbases with long kicks, but they are different shapes, way more stubby / blunt kicks.

Just a couple of extra things, from what I recall from people talking about that shape, but I can look up a bit more info if needed too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2022, 03:07:36 AM
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Is there a way to tell which primitive decks are BBS wood? I always thought just buy "original" graphics and stay away from colab boards, but my buddy just got a Prod deck (white face with gold skull graphic) and it wasnt BBS. The sticker said made in USA.

Also, I just skated a Primitive 8.38 BBS board and loved the shape. Does anyone know if that size and shape is used by other BBS brands?
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Primitive uses a few woodshops, from the woodshop thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
Primitive* (US 2021)   ……….   ……….   USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Primitive* (US 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS

If it says made in USA it's likely BBS, but actually Mexico. I've seen team logo decks with the Made in USA / Mexico sticker, some with a Made in China sticker, so your best bet is to check it out in store.

Shape wise Primitive has unique dimensions for their 8.25 and 8.38:
Haven't had luck finding dimensions on an 8.25, but some generic Generator mold decks (Sci-Fi, Black Label) are 31.8" x 14.125. Real did 1 season of the Tropical Dream Oval which are as close as you can get to the Primitive 8.25 shape.

Not seen a 8.38 with similar dimensions in the wild either,
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I haven't heard many more USA boards so that might have been a once off thing.

Someone who got one said they were certainly different to BBS / Made in Mexico marked boards.

Yeah the others Made in China are different concave and ever so slightly different dimensions, but more of a Dwindle like concave.


As to that shape, I think April has one similar but I haven't checked to see if they were still around, but April did have similar length, shorter wheelbases with longer kicks.

Alien Workshop / Habitat and now Metal Skateboards also have the fairly long boards, short wheelbases with long kicks, but they are different shapes, way more stubby / blunt kicks.

Just a couple of extra things, from what I recall from people talking about that shape, but I can look up a bit more info if needed too.

From the April website:
8   

31.91" x 8"
Nose - 6.91"
Tail - 6.55"
Wheelbase - 14.18

8.125 
31.77" x 8.19"
Nose - 7"
Tail - 6.56"
Wheelbase - 14"

8.25 
31.92" x 8.26"
Nose - 6.88"
Tail - 6.81"
Wheelbase - 14"
 
8.38 
31.12"  x 8.38"
Nose - 6.857"
Tail - 6.617"
Wheelbase - 14.395"
 
8.5 
32.2" x 8.5"
Nose - 7.0"
Tail - 6.5"
Wheelbase - 14.4"

You're right on the April 8.25, dimensions are similar to Primitive but I recall April being very mellow and flat. The 8.38 shape is weird, reminds me of Palace decks.

For AWS / Habitat I like that their 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 are all the same length and wheelbase (32.25 / 14.25) just narrower or wider, but the length can be daunting.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on October 03, 2022, 06:03:05 AM
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Anyone have any experience with sizing on the puig indoor? Only other adidas shoe I’ve skated was the suicu and they were true to size ish
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True to size. I will warn, however, that the Indoor are quite different than the cupsole version. The counter is pretty loose and slippy around the heel, the whole shoe feels very thin and flexible, and there’s not much rubber around the front, so they don’t look like they’ll last very long. I ride my cruiser to work in them and I wear them to hang out, but I don’t skate much in them.

Really, they’re like the opposite of the cupsole Puigs, which are stiff and solid, have a great heel, and feel very supportive compared to the Indoors.

I didn't have any major durability issues but they are definitely less durable than the cupsole puig and feel pretty flimsy. Completely true to size for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 05, 2022, 03:28:15 AM
So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 05, 2022, 05:03:50 AM
So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?

it could be purely anecdotal on my part, but i feel like when you're actively trying to learn a trick and get it consistent that's when you start focusing on it a bit too much in terms of setting up, positioning etc. i've noticed certain times when i've tried to learn a trick or get it better, i fuck around too much with positioning and it never really works out, but if it's say in a game of skate or doing it in a line you're kinda pressed to do it quicker and atleast for me it often helps not focusing on the set up as much.

a good example for me atleast would be frontside flips, never really had them, landed a couple sketchy ones and i've tried my best skating flat to unlock them but never clicked. was filming a line the other day, landed the tricks i planned and thought i'd throw something else in there and for some reason i opted for a fs flip. set up quickly, popped it and that fucker came around and i landed on it. admittedly didn't roll away but that one sporadic attempt was closer than when i actually try to learn them. watched the clip back and my positioning for it was much higher up the board than when i've tried to learn them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 05, 2022, 05:15:05 AM
So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?

What's going wrong if you don't land it? I think of heelflips as ollies up to the last moment when my foot leaves the nose. Flick as late as possible and it's always gonna be right under you and high as fuck.

But also what cosmicgypsies says is really important. Not a flip trick, but I've had the same experience with fs crooks. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. If I think nothing but "Ollie and put your front foot right there on the edge" it works pretty much every time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 05, 2022, 05:40:53 AM
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So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
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What's going wrong if you don't land it? I think of heelflips as ollies up to the last moment when my foot leaves the nose. Flick as late as possible and it's always gonna be right under you and high as fuck.

But also what cosmicgypsies says is really important. Not a flip trick, but I've had the same experience with fs crooks. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. If I think nothing but "Ollie and put your front foot right there on the edge" it works pretty much every time.

Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 05, 2022, 06:30:24 AM
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So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
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What's going wrong if you don't land it? I think of heelflips as ollies up to the last moment when my foot leaves the nose. Flick as late as possible and it's always gonna be right under you and high as fuck.

But also what cosmicgypsies says is really important. Not a flip trick, but I've had the same experience with fs crooks. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. If I think nothing but "Ollie and put your front foot right there on the edge" it works pretty much every time.
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.

I hate heelflips and can't do them, but 1 thing that made sense when was a friend who does heelflips consistent told was to pop, drag and really delay the flick off the edge of the board. I keep trying to liken them to kickflips and want to flick them off quickly, applying that same logic for heelflips results in ghost flicks or 1/2 flips.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 05, 2022, 11:45:16 AM
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So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
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What's going wrong if you don't land it? I think of heelflips as ollies up to the last moment when my foot leaves the nose. Flick as late as possible and it's always gonna be right under you and high as fuck.

But also what cosmicgypsies says is really important. Not a flip trick, but I've had the same experience with fs crooks. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. If I think nothing but "Ollie and put your front foot right there on the edge" it works pretty much every time.
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
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I hate heelflips and can't do them, but 1 thing that made sense when was a friend who does heelflips consistent told was to pop, drag and really delay the flick off the edge of the board. I keep trying to liken them to kickflips and want to flick them off quickly, applying that same logic for heelflips results in ghost flicks or 1/2 flips.

I can only speak for myself but I realized that the flick comes better when I lean a little bit back instead of forward. And when I forget about the heel part in the word heelflip. It feels more like side of the foot flip for me. For a kickflip I want my toes to leave the side of the nose concave and for a heelflip I want the side of my foot to do that. So my front foot is placed similar as when I do a kickflip. I am goofy footed and for a kickflip my front foot stands more like this: / instead of this: I

That's what I try to do with a heelflip too, just with the opposite side of the deck.

The back foot is also important. I need my back foot toes more in the heel pocket of my tail instead of at the end of the tail for heelflips. Trying to apply pressure on both feet. I would say 60% pressure on the back foot, 40% pressure on the front foot.

Maybe look at a slow mo heelflip from Jamie Foy, he has a similar footstance.

I hope that all made sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on October 10, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
One of my boards took a dip in the LA river yesterday. The bearings didn’t seem to get that wet surprisingly. I was able to skate for a couple more hours afterwards with them feeling a little sluggish. This morning they were mostly seized up and rusted. I tried soaking them in acetone and putting some speed cream in to get them moving before a second acetone wash, but had moderate success at best. I left them soaking in acetone while I’m at work. I might try taking them apart and using a rust remover if they’re still seized up. Anyone have any luck in getting bearings moving again after a similar situation or are they just fucked?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on October 10, 2022, 12:38:04 PM
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So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
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What's going wrong if you don't land it? I think of heelflips as ollies up to the last moment when my foot leaves the nose. Flick as late as possible and it's always gonna be right under you and high as fuck.

But also what cosmicgypsies says is really important. Not a flip trick, but I've had the same experience with fs crooks. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. If I think nothing but "Ollie and put your front foot right there on the edge" it works pretty much every time.
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
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I hate heelflips and can't do them, but 1 thing that made sense when was a friend who does heelflips consistent told was to pop, drag and really delay the flick off the edge of the board. I keep trying to liken them to kickflips and want to flick them off quickly, applying that same logic for heelflips results in ghost flicks or 1/2 flips.
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I can only speak for myself but I realized that the flick comes better when I lean a little bit back instead of forward. And when I forget about the heel part in the word heelflip. It feels more like side of the foot flip for me. For a kickflip I want my toes to leave the side of the nose concave and for a heelflip I want the side of my foot to do that. So my front foot is placed similar as when I do a kickflip. I am goofy footed and for a kickflip my front foot stands more like this: / instead of this: I

That's what I try to do with a heelflip too, just with the opposite side of the deck.

The back foot is also important. I need my back foot toes more in the heel pocket of my tail instead of at the end of the tail for heelflips. Trying to apply pressure on both feet. I would say 60% pressure on the back foot, 40% pressure on the front foot.

Maybe look at a slow mo heelflip from Jamie Foy, he has a similar footstance.

I hope that all made sense.
This is very on point for my heelflips too. I find that leaning back on the board makes them stay under me way easier. And flicking with the entire side of my foot makes getting the flip and controlling the board a lot easier. The way I heelflip wears down the heel, middle (usually where the logo is), and ollie area of my shoe. It rips my shoes up a lot quicker but it's worth it to have a good heelflip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on October 10, 2022, 01:14:14 PM
One of my boards took a dip in the LA river yesterday. The bearings didn’t seem to get that wet surprisingly. I was able to skate for a couple more hours afterwards with them feeling a little sluggish. This morning they were mostly seized up and rusted. I tried soaking them in acetone and putting some speed cream in to get them moving before a second acetone wash, but had moderate success at best. I left them soaking in acetone while I’m at work. I might try taking them apart and using a rust remover if they’re still seized up. Anyone have any luck in getting bearings moving again after a similar situation or are they just fucked?

I had this happen to a set of Reds years ago. I took the bearings apart completely I think. Removed the cages and the balls and everything and cleaned them properly with acetone. Might’ve been overkill but they worked beautifully after that. I think the most important thing with cleaning bearings is spinning them when cleaning. I use the Bones washer thing and all the bearings except the topmost one are easy to spin in that to fling all the shit out. Once they spin freely you can rinse them with clean solvent or even water and dry them quickly and relube.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 10, 2022, 05:49:22 PM
One of my boards took a dip in the LA river yesterday. The bearings didn’t seem to get that wet surprisingly. I was able to skate for a couple more hours afterwards with them feeling a little sluggish. This morning they were mostly seized up and rusted. I tried soaking them in acetone and putting some speed cream in to get them moving before a second acetone wash, but had moderate success at best. I left them soaking in acetone while I’m at work. I might try taking them apart and using a rust remover if they’re still seized up. Anyone have any luck in getting bearings moving again after a similar situation or are they just fucked?


Some people swear off it, but I have found a simple spray of WD40 into the bearings while still on the board and then having a gentle roll around is all that was needed to get most bearing spinning again after taking a dip.  They still roll fine and then when sounding dry in however many sessions, give them some lube and they should be sweet again.

Failing that, if they have been wet for a while or just don't seem to be coming back, another spray and taking them out of the wheels to get them moving between your fingers, but again, they almost always come up fairly well after that with anything from generic cheapies, Reds, Swiss, and everything in between.

Been doing that for twenty plus years and bearings are still rolling fine.

Each to their own though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 11, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
How are trucks tightened at the factory? We often talk about stock tightness, but is there such a thing if some random dude is just turning a wrench?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on October 11, 2022, 04:45:06 PM
How are trucks tightened at the factory? We often talk about stock tightness, but is there such a thing if some random dude is just turning a wrench?

from videos i've seen, impact wrench and yeah not exactly for accuracy. i've recently noticed more people mention that 'stock tightness' varies and if you want to start from scratch, just adjust to flush.

found some vids -
tracker trucks being tightened https://youtu.be/ddRjg2HtYtU?t=173

old venture vid doing the same https://youtu.be/aUlCl2a4zuw?t=89


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on October 11, 2022, 04:47:42 PM
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.

Since we're doing heelflip tips now, here's a little hack that helped me learn heelflips 20 years ago, and that I still utilize with various heelflip variations whenever I can't get the flip right.

Tap the toeside rail of your board by extending your ankle straight downwards (like how people do late flips), to help flip the board. It's possible to heelflip this way without kicking or flicking whatsoever.
I'd still combine it with a diagonal kick off the nose, but while you're still figuring out the trick, this little downwards tap can really help. It allows you to keep the board right under you, as you don't need that exaggerated flick that will often throw the board forward or behind you.

I use this to get a better flip for double heels, inward heels, nollie inward heels, halfcab heels, etc.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on October 11, 2022, 09:48:37 PM
@Roisto i was able to get them spinning again. Soaked them for 24 hrs in acetone. A few are a little slow, but significantly better than before. I’ll pop the cages and clean the races before setting them up again


@Mbrimson88 I used a Scrubbing Bubbles spray on a set of Quickies once. It made them feel extra fast. I tried it another time and rusted my bearings shut worse than the ones I asked my question about. That was close to 20 years ago though. I would just toss out bearings and buy new ones until a few years ago when I finally bought my first set of Bones Swiss. Now I like to try and take care of bearings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 11, 2022, 10:35:33 PM
@Roisto i was able to get them spinning again. Soaked them for 24 hrs in acetone. A few are a little slow, but significantly better than before. I’ll pop the cages and clean the races before setting them up again

I've always heard that acetone destroys/weakens the plastic cages, so I'd be interested in hearing how these hold up after being soaked in it 24h.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 11, 2022, 10:46:28 PM
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
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Since we're doing heelflip tips now, here's a little hack that helped me learn heelflips 20 years ago, and that I still utilize with various heelflip variations whenever I can't get the flip right.

Tap the toeside rail of your board by extending your ankle straight downwards (like how people do late flips), to help flip the board. It's possible to heelflip this way without kicking or flicking whatsoever.
I'd still combine it with a diagonal kick off the nose, but while you're still figuring out the trick, this little downwards tap can really help. It allows you to keep the board right under you, as you don't need that exaggerated flick that will often throw the board forward or behind you.

I use this to get a better flip for double heels, inward heels, nollie inward heels, halfcab heels, etc.

Sorry, I am not a native English speaker: what do you mean by tap the toeside rail exactly?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on October 12, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
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Since we're doing heelflip tips now, here's a little hack that helped me learn heelflips 20 years ago, and that I still utilize with various heelflip variations whenever I can't get the flip right.

Tap the toeside rail of your board by extending your ankle straight downwards (like how people do late flips), to help flip the board. It's possible to heelflip this way without kicking or flicking whatsoever.
I'd still combine it with a diagonal kick off the nose, but while you're still figuring out the trick, this little downwards tap can really help. It allows you to keep the board right under you, as you don't need that exaggerated flick that will often throw the board forward or behind you.

I use this to get a better flip for double heels, inward heels, nollie inward heels, halfcab heels, etc.
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Sorry, I am not a native English speaker: what do you mean by tap the toeside rail exactly?

The edge of your board (rail), where your toes are hanging off when setting up for a heelflip.

for a heelflip you usually extend your knee to kick off the side of the nose. You can get more flip by also using your ankle. flex your foot downward like you would on a gas pedal or a bass drum pedal.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on October 12, 2022, 01:29:27 AM
How are trucks tightened at the factory? We often talk about stock tightness, but is there such a thing if some random dude is just turning a wrench?

stock tightness means nothing
better consider them flush or not
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 12, 2022, 04:13:32 AM
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Thanks guys. The most common mistakes: Sometimes I don't pop (enough), then they just ghost rocket; sometimes I don't flick (enough), then they only turn half. I know how to set up my feet, I know I have to pop and only flick later. I guess a lot of it is really psychological: the more I dread the heelflip part of my session, the less likely I am to make any progress. I've been wondering if I should just skip that part for a week and see what happens.
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Cheers bro I’l try to remember that tonight.
Since we're doing heelflip tips now, here's a little hack that helped me learn heelflips 20 years ago, and that I still utilize with various heelflip variations whenever I can't get the flip right.

Tap the toeside rail of your board by extending your ankle straight downwards (like how people do late flips), to help flip the board. It's possible to heelflip this way without kicking or flicking whatsoever.
I'd still combine it with a diagonal kick off the nose, but while you're still figuring out the trick, this little downwards tap can really help. It allows you to keep the board right under you, as you don't need that exaggerated flick that will often throw the board forward or behind you.

I use this to get a better flip for double heels, inward heels, nollie inward heels, halfcab heels, etc.
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Sorry, I am not a native English speaker: what do you mean by tap the toeside rail exactly?
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The edge of your board (rail), where your toes are hanging off when setting up for a heelflip.

for a heelflip you usually extend your knee to kick off the side of the nose. You can get more flip by also using your ankle. flex your foot downward like you would on a gas pedal or a bass drum pedal.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 12, 2022, 11:35:57 AM
I switched from some worn Spits F4 50mm conicals to some Spits F4 53mm lock-ins and I could suddenly ollie a bit higher.

Which is cool, but why? I don't understand the physics behind that. I always thought smaller wheels are easier to pop with because the way from the tail to the ground is shorter. Pretty confusing session yesterday and made me question a lot of things I thought I knew.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 12, 2022, 12:01:24 PM
So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?

You need to take a break. You're reinforcing bad habits. In rock climbing, which is highly skill based, there is an old "7 try" rule where you can try a move 7 tries and if you can't do it you should come back to it. Motor learning patterns come and go quickly in the short run but stick around long-term if you're consistent. You don't want to get consistent at the wrong thing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on October 12, 2022, 12:13:42 PM
I switched from some worn Spits F4 50mm conicals to some Spits F4 53mm lock-ins and I could suddenly ollie a bit higher.

Which is cool, but why? I don't understand the physics behind that. I always thought smaller wheels are easier to pop with because the way from the tail to the ground is shorter. Pretty confusing session yesterday and made me question a lot of things I thought I knew.

You're right insofar that the shorter the distance between the tail and the ground (which is influenced by wheel diameter, truck height, risers, and concave/shape), the easier it is to pop your board, simply because it takes less force to make contact. However, this also limits the angle of pop, meaning how vertical your board is when the tail hits the ground. For many people, a higher angle of pop allows for higher Ollies because the board can get almost perpendicular to the ground before the front foot levels it out. The higher the front trucks get initially, the higher the Ollie is once the board is parallel to the ground again.

tl;dr: small wheels, low trucks: easier, more responsive pop. big wheels, high trucks: harder to pop, but potentially higher Ollies.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Diklap on October 12, 2022, 12:21:00 PM
So I have this 8.375 laying around I used to skate those but have been skating 8.5 lately, which has really improved my 360flip. Now I want to use the deck but will it affect my 360 flips/pinch going with 8.375 and 149 thunders. Somehow I'm feeling like I can't go back while it's only a few mm. Thoughts/experiences on this? Really felt like I improved when switching up, otherwise I'll just sell the deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 12, 2022, 01:13:27 PM
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So last year I (re)learned heelflips and got quite comfortable albeit not super consistent with them. I skate every day and part of my routine is to land at least three clean(ish) heelflips. The purpose of the exercise is to get them really dialed.

However, this has become more and more frustrating as I feel not only I don't get more consistent at them but on the contrary, it always takes me more time and tries. Currently I am talking about at least 20 tries to land the first and then around 30 more for the two others... It's the part of my session I look forward to the least actually.

Have you been in a similar situation and what would be your advice?
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You need to take a break. You're reinforcing bad habits. In rock climbing, which is highly skill based, there is an old "7 try" rule where you can try a move 7 tries and if you can't do it you should come back to it. Motor learning patterns come and go quickly in the short run but stick around long-term if you're consistent. You don't want to get consistent at the wrong thing.

Interesting take, thanks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 12, 2022, 01:20:49 PM
So I have this 8.375 laying around I used to skate those but have been skating 8.5 lately, which has really improved my 360flip. Now I want to use the deck but will it affect my 360 flips/pinch going with 8.375 and 149 thunders. Somehow I'm feeling like I can't go back while it's only a few mm. Thoughts/experiences on this? Really felt like I improved when switching up, otherwise I'll just sell the deck.

If it’s brand new sell it. If you’ve already skated it then set it back up and give it a go. Lots of people do 149 on 8.3+ so it will work. Also take a tape measure to it. Measure the both boards. Sometimes you’ll find that the manufacturer stated measurements don’t always add up. Meaning your 8.5 could be slightly under or your 8.3 could be over.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 12, 2022, 11:33:27 PM

@Mbrimson88 I used a Scrubbing Bubbles spray on a set of Quickies once. It made them feel extra fast. I tried it another time and rusted my bearings shut worse than the ones I asked my question about. That was close to 20 years ago though. I would just toss out bearings and buy new ones until a few years ago when I finally bought my first set of Bones Swiss. Now I like to try and take care of bearings


I had to look up what Scrubbing Bubbles was, as we don't have it here in AU.  Looked like it was good for the shower but not so good for bearings.

It is amazing though hearing all the different things people have tried to clean bearings with, more often than not when they have come in for some new bearings, because "they tried Brand XXX product and it destroyed them" or something similar, cause the first thing I usually ask is what and where are your old ones?

I just find it interesting to see what their old bearings look like.


Edit:

I guess that is nothing compared to the shields on or off debate.

My preference is always shields on and lubed, but I have a few friends who are strictly no shields and no lube, which is always a funny conversation (polite argument) when it comes up.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on October 13, 2022, 01:22:16 AM
skated hi top cons for the first time today. laces blew almost instantly about halfway up the shoe. whats the best method to prevent laces from ripping? normally i dont really care and skate shoes with torn laces but i need to undo these pretty far to take them on/off
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on October 13, 2022, 01:41:17 AM
skated hi top cons for the first time today. laces blew almost instantly about halfway up the shoe. whats the best method to prevent laces from ripping? normally i dont really care and skate shoes with torn laces but i need to undo these pretty far to take them on/off
metal eyelets far on the side of the shoes suck
put some glue on the laces
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on October 13, 2022, 02:25:50 AM
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@Mbrimson88 I used a Scrubbing Bubbles spray on a set of Quickies once. It made them feel extra fast. I tried it another time and rusted my bearings shut worse than the ones I asked my question about. That was close to 20 years ago though. I would just toss out bearings and buy new ones until a few years ago when I finally bought my first set of Bones Swiss. Now I like to try and take care of bearings
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I had to look up what Scrubbing Bubbles was, as we don't have it here in AU.  Looked like it was good for the shower but not so good for bearings.

It is amazing though hearing all the different things people have tried to clean bearings with, more often than not when they have come in for some new bearings, because "they tried Brand XXX product and it destroyed them" or something similar, cause the first thing I usually ask is what and where are your old ones?

I just find it interesting to see what their old bearings look like.


Edit:

I guess that is nothing compared to the shields on or off debate.

My preference is always shields on and lubed, but I have a few friends who are strictly no shields and no lube, which is always a funny conversation (polite argument) when it comes up.

My friends skate bones Swiss without shields all the time and don’t have any issue. They’ll maybe use speed cream if they’re feeling sluggish. They never seem to have any problem. Meanwhile it seems like if my board comes within 5 feet of any sort of dirt my bearings will seize up and get progressively worse until I clean them. To this day the fastest set of bearings I’ve ever had were these metal cage Lucky abec 1’s that came with this complete that I won from a Thrasher website trivia contest in 2006



I switched from some worn Spits F4 50mm conicals to some Spits F4 53mm lock-ins and I could suddenly ollie a bit higher.

Which is cool, but why? I don't understand the physics behind that. I always thought smaller wheels are easier to pop with because the way from the tail to the ground is shorter. Pretty confusing session yesterday and made me question a lot of things I thought I knew.


Sometimes new gear just feels and skates better. Your old wheels could be a little coned or have little chips or spots that make them not roll as great
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on October 13, 2022, 04:33:12 AM
skated hi top cons for the first time today. laces blew almost instantly about halfway up the shoe. whats the best method to prevent laces from ripping? normally i dont really care and skate shoes with torn laces but i need to undo these pretty far to take them on/off
Use gorilla glue or shoe goo on the first 3 eyelets. That will prevent blowout and you will be able to get them on and off no problem.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:26 AM



I switched from some worn Spits F4 50mm conicals to some Spits F4 53mm lock-ins and I could suddenly ollie a bit higher.

Which is cool, but why? I don't understand the physics behind that. I always thought smaller wheels are easier to pop with because the way from the tail to the ground is shorter. Pretty confusing session yesterday and made me question a lot of things I thought I knew.


Sometimes new gear just feels and skates better. Your old wheels could be a little coned or have little chips or spots that make them not roll as great
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Broke the quote but bigger wheels will make your board a bit steeper when popping, nothing major but definitely could be the difference you're feeling.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 13, 2022, 09:29:20 AM
How are trucks tightened at the factory? We often talk about stock tightness, but is there such a thing if some random dude is just turning a wrench?

“Stock tightness” is meaningless. The person in Taiwan who installs the nut is absolutely not tensioning your trucks with a torque wrench nor are they particularly concerned with out of the box performance. The best that may happen is that the pneumatic driver they use might be setup with approximately enough power to install the nut to the point where the Nyloc engages before it runs out of power.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 13, 2022, 06:33:22 PM
What's the easiest fastest way to get this stuff off without any liquid acid stuff?
I guess there's a reason I got these at 50% off…
File? Griptape? Anything else?

(https://www.freedomskateshop.at/media/catalog/product/cache/87f26d23b83b1a4c2c650efa8081e64b/v/e/venture-vincent-touzery-v-light-skateboard-truck-frontside.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on October 13, 2022, 06:46:06 PM
What's the easiest fastest way to get this stuff off without any liquid acid stuff?
I guess there's a reason I got these at 50% off…
File? Griptape? Anything else?

Acetone.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 13, 2022, 07:11:55 PM
My friends skate bones Swiss without shields all the time and don’t have any issue. They’ll maybe use speed cream if they’re feeling sluggish. They never seem to have any problem. Meanwhile it seems like if my board comes within 5 feet of any sort of dirt my bearings will seize up and get progressively worse until I clean them. To this day the fastest set of bearings I’ve ever had were these metal cage Lucky abec 1’s that came with this complete that I won from a Thrasher website trivia contest in 2006


It is more just a funny debate, but I have quite a few of the old Swiss and other sets of bearings without shields on setups for people to use at the indoor park and they usually roll fine, although a little slower on average.

Even some of the used sets of Swiss, I have cleaned, put shields back on and made them work again, which I use on my own setups too, but they are more the well used completes that I get out for people to try, or the older boards for spots or places I don't want to skate my normal boards.




What's the easiest fastest way to get this stuff off without any liquid acid stuff?
I guess there's a reason I got these at 50% off…
File? Griptape? Anything else?



At least on polished trucks, it is not too hard, but between a razor blade to scrape most of it off and then some steel wool or fine grade sand paper, used evenly over most of the face of the hanger, they come up looking very much like normal with no sign of the graphic or where you took it off either.

Did that with quite a few sale trucks lately, especially the plain finish with just a small amount of paint on them like those ones.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thehogsniper on October 13, 2022, 08:34:34 PM
What's the easiest fastest way to get this stuff off without any liquid acid stuff?
I guess there's a reason I got these at 50% off…
File? Griptape? Anything else?

(https://www.freedomskateshop.at/media/catalog/product/cache/87f26d23b83b1a4c2c650efa8081e64b/v/e/venture-vincent-touzery-v-light-skateboard-truck-frontside.jpg)
Brasso maybe? It's not acid but I've had decent luck with that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 14, 2022, 12:55:22 AM
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What's the easiest fastest way to get this stuff off without any liquid acid stuff?
I guess there's a reason I got these at 50% off…
File? Griptape? Anything else?

(https://www.freedomskateshop.at/media/catalog/product/cache/87f26d23b83b1a4c2c650efa8081e64b/v/e/venture-vincent-touzery-v-light-skateboard-truck-frontside.jpg)
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Brasso maybe? It's not acid but I've had decent luck with that.
I'd go with a solid slappy session on a crusty curb
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 14, 2022, 12:57:00 AM
just leave it on the matisse pattern is sick and will look better once you get some nice grooves going
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 14, 2022, 01:59:55 AM
If you plan to grind them, problem solved. If not, get copers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 14, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
just leave it on the matisse pattern is sick and will look better once you get some nice grooves going

This is what I’d do. Frankly I think that’s already kinda cool and would look great after a few slappy sessions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on October 15, 2022, 07:56:21 AM
do ya guys marry ur setup along with ur shoes? i personally find it weird to have a rotation of different shoes for a setup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 15, 2022, 09:28:38 AM
Acetone is not liquid acid, available at literally every drug store in the developed world. Takes about 20s to wipe that shit off. You can also take a razor and hold it perpendicular and move it back and forth and scrape it off. It's quite low quality paint and not super adhesive.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2022, 09:31:18 AM
Does gx1000 8.125 decks have the exact same shape as 8.125 quasi?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on October 15, 2022, 09:44:29 AM
Does gx1000 8.125 decks have the exact same shape as 8.125 quasi?

they should be the same

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 15, 2022, 10:00:35 AM
Acetone is not liquid acid, available at literally every drug store in the developed world. Takes about 20s to wipe that shit off. You can also take a razor and hold it perpendicular and move it back and forth and scrape it off. It's quite low quality paint and not super adhesive.

I know, I basically just meant nothing liquid or anything I'd have to buy. I got it off with grip tape very quickly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2022, 11:26:51 AM
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Does gx1000 8.125 decks have the exact same shape as 8.125 quasi?
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they should be the same


Would be dope.
Anybody can confirm?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on October 15, 2022, 05:30:54 PM
do ya guys marry ur setup along with ur shoes? i personally find it weird to have a rotation of different shoes for a setup

I do. I only skate one pair of shoes at a time. It throws me off if I switch them up. I’ll get shoes and they become chillers then when my skate shoes get bad chillers become skate shoes. Unless it’s a pair I’m just dying to skate. But I have a homie. Who always changes shoes and has a rotation of them. But he’s a lot more fashion conscious than I am so maybe that’s why.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on October 15, 2022, 06:37:20 PM
do ya guys marry ur setup along with ur shoes? i personally find it weird to have a rotation of different shoes for a setup
Absolutely. I can’t skate more than one pair of shoes at a time. I’m not trying to go from cupsole to vulc back to cupsole over the course of 3 sessions. I’ll even skate shoes longer than I want to and just retire them with the deck if that’s still good. Can’t rotate shoes or skate new shoes with an old board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 15, 2022, 08:23:06 PM
Sometimes I do, but it depends on how much life is left on the board vs the shoes.

If the board goes first then I keep skating the shoes on a new board. In the meantime I break in new ones as chillers and swap to those ASAP while the board is still relatively new. Then I can retire the super worn shoes or keep them as reserves to skate on an old board if my main pair gets dust too quick.

If it's the other way around, I'm inclined to keep fresh shoes with fresh deck when the shoes go first and I keep the used deck as a spare for me or the homies. Unless, money is tight, then I'll power through until I can align board and shoes again
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on October 16, 2022, 07:35:17 AM
I've dreaded this day. As a young girl, my domineering skate dad would oft stand in my doorway at night and proclaim in a throaty whisper, “hellride ends at 30, my dear.” Of course, with the foolishness of youth I lived out my 20s carefree, purchasing any wheelbase and riding whatever duro wheels, all with healthy cartilage. Sure I struggled to afford Skate Mama's, or any pants which would fit over THESE Ishod-esque quads. But I could wake up every day and confidently say, “my pop will stay another year”.

And then.

On the eve of my 29th birthday, I flung off my Dunks into my pile of crumpled up beer bottles and cigarette packs, preparing for sleep, when the clock struck. Thirteen ominous times. DING. DING. DONG. A murder of crows landed on my windowsill, so many black beady eyes seeming to stare right into my very heart. Sleep that night was spasmodic, feverish even. When I awoke I knew something was different. I hoped on my board and suddenly desired Riptide bushings? I stared in the mirror which was sitting on three garbage bags in the corner, daddy's proclamation ringing in my ears. My hips were wider. Pins and needles sensations shot through my knees and my legs felt fatigued. I contracted... Jeff Dechesare's medical condition.

It’s been four years since that morning and I've gained 50 pounds. I’ve mostly skate titanium trucks from the shop in the rich part of town (which I live in) and incorporate exotic race car parts into my setups. Sometimes I still feel Animal Chin's presence while rolling around on my Powell Flight Deck. And yet I cannot control the ravaging of my madness. My fliptricks are unrecognizable, the locals call me the NFT expert (No Flip Tricks).

Tonight is the ceremony. I will bring all my kooky gear into the forest and set fire to it, and when the embers have subsided I will walk into that dark night and find a little cave to post on SLAP from. But before I go I must find a symmetrical egg with a 13.5" wheelbase x 8.75 width and where to purchase Pepper Galaxy griptape.

Please give me your best recommendations. I do not know how to use the internet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on October 16, 2022, 10:09:38 AM
New shoes, new deck is the worst combo. You guys do this intentionally?

I will set up a new deck a bit early if it seems that I’d have to change my shoes and the deck around the same time just to avoid having new shoes and deck at the same time.

I break in all my shoes just wearing them doing normal stuff other than skating but even then the first sessions on them will most likely not be very good. I hate new shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 16, 2022, 01:39:36 PM
New shoes, new deck is the worst combo. You guys do this intentionally?

I will set up a new deck a bit early if it seems that I’d have to change my shoes and the deck around the same time just to avoid having new shoes and deck at the same time.

I break in all my shoes just wearing them doing normal stuff other than skating but even then the first sessions on them will most likely not be very good. I hate new shoes.

100% agree with you. I hate new shoes, new decks and new trucks. New bearings and wheels are okay.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 16, 2022, 02:58:31 PM
Are the current off white 103 stf wheels just as hard and slippery as the super white ones back then?
Could get some 40% off and if they still are that slidey I absolutely need them.

I'm so incredibly sick of 99a stf, wasted my money on those. Stickiest wheels, don't do it.

(And yes I'd love to get F4 instead but it's just too expensive)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 16, 2022, 03:34:53 PM
New shoes, new deck is the worst combo. You guys do this intentionally?

I will set up a new deck a bit early if it seems that I’d have to change my shoes and the deck around the same time just to avoid having new shoes and deck at the same time.

I break in all my shoes just wearing them doing normal stuff other than skating but even then the first sessions on them will most likely not be very good. I hate new shoes.

I prefer new shoes and new deck over new shoes on an old deck though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 17, 2022, 02:02:40 AM
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New shoes, new deck is the worst combo. You guys do this intentionally?

I will set up a new deck a bit early if it seems that I’d have to change my shoes and the deck around the same time just to avoid having new shoes and deck at the same time.

I break in all my shoes just wearing them doing normal stuff other than skating but even then the first sessions on them will most likely not be very good. I hate new shoes.
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I prefer new shoes and new deck over new shoes on an old deck though
Same here. Only new thing that sucks are trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 17, 2022, 04:34:17 AM
New deck new shoes = super grippy to the point I fall of the bloard because I kinda stick to it. I try to avoid it but more often then not, they coincide.

With all new stuff bar bearings I am super anxious I will loose all tricks, hence I buy multiple decks of the same shape and multiple pairs of the same shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 17, 2022, 05:10:33 AM
Few questions:


-Why are forward flips with my 8.25 AWS deck so much harder than with all decks I was skating before?
Probably cause it’s damn long compared to most other decks; right? Or you think it could be nose steepness related or something else?


-why the hell i was thinking nose and tailslides suck with thunders? I was getting rid of them because of that and now I’m back on them because my new ones broke and I’m doing the best nose and tail slides I’ve ever done.
I don’t get it. Last time I had them I got stuck so easy and now it’s completely gone.
I don’t think it’s wheels related. I had bones OG’s 53 mm 100A last time and now 54 mm /some orbs 99A cause they’ve been cheap.
Btw I had venture v hollows with bones 52 mm stf’s before. 103A and even with those I didn’t slide that good.

-pressure flips and truck/deck width differences.
I guess worst case for pressure flips of all kind are smaller trucks than deck, right? Would explain why they are so easy now again that I got down to an 8.125 from an 8.25 with 8“ trucks.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on October 17, 2022, 06:56:50 AM
^ Smaller trucks than deck actually is the best case scenario for pressure flips, those work best by applying downward pressure exactly where the gap would be, the closer to the center of the board that happens the faster the flip. Those tricks mostly rely on instability of your set-up. But that's with loose trucks, if you have tight trucks and your technique on them is accurate enough then you'll make them work on a stable board anyway, mostly relying on the pop instead and then indeed, actually being in control might help.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 17, 2022, 07:05:06 AM
^ Smaller trucks than deck actually is the best case scenario for pressure flips, those work best by applying downward pressure exactly where the gap would be, the closer to the center of the board that happens the faster the flip. Those tricks mostly rely on instability of your set-up. But that's with loose trucks, if you have tight trucks and your technique on them is accurate enough then you'll make them work on a stable board anyway, mostly relying on the pop instead and then indeed, actually being in control might help.



Really? 

Then I don’t get it. Pressure flips are easy for me. Like first and almost every try, but I struggled with my last two decks heavy. Now they are back again. The way they pop now is completely different again.

I had ventures hollows before with 8.18 FA deck and alien 8.25.
Now 8.125 GX with thunders.
Difference like day and night.
Ventures with 8“ and 8.125 and I didn’t have problems with pressure flips.
Only with the 8.18 and 8.25


Oh and my thunders now are probably more lose than the ventures. But like I said 8“ venture + smaller deck and I didn’t have a problem, so it can’t be truck looseness
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on October 17, 2022, 07:11:21 AM
Yeah, source: way too many years spent doing pressure flip variations, and skating with people doing them. The difference you're feeling might also be due to the new board shape and geometry, or better sturdiness and thus rebound on the trick (since it kind of is rebound based). Pressure flips are the most set-up dependent tricks I can think of in skateboarding, in my opinion. The most simple change in your set-up might affect them in a way or another and once they've gone somewhere it can take a minute (or another random set-up change) to rewire and find all the sweet spots for them again. Usually comes back quick when you've got the basic method figured out, but it can take the occasional adjustment.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 17, 2022, 07:17:46 AM
Skated four months with those decks and they didn’t come back. Usually getting used to a new setup takes like two days to me, and I got used to those decks. I loved skating them, but pressure flips were just not the same.
I could do them, but it was a struggle and it just didn’t pop as good as it does now again.

And yeah, forward flips were harder too on them, but I think cause the alien is so long.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 17, 2022, 11:44:49 AM
Few questions:


-Why are forward flips with my 8.25 AWS deck so much harder than with all decks I was skating before?
Probably cause it’s damn long compared to most other decks; right? Or you think it could be nose steepness related or something else?


-why the hell i was thinking nose and tailslides suck with thunders? I was getting rid of them because of that and now I’m back on them because my new ones broke and I’m doing the best nose and tail slides I’ve ever done.
I don’t get it. Last time I had them I got stuck so easy and now it’s completely gone.
I don’t think it’s wheels related. I had bones OG’s 53 mm 100A last time and now 54 mm /some orbs 99A cause they’ve been cheap.
Btw I had venture v hollows with bones 52 mm stf’s before. 103A and even with those I didn’t slide that good.

-pressure flips and truck/deck width differences.
I guess worst case for pressure flips of all kind are smaller trucks than deck, right? Would explain why they are so easy now again that I got down to an 8.125 from an 8.25 with 8“ trucks.

I don't have any nose/tailslide issues with Thunders IF, and it is a big IF, there is a bit of flat after the bolts and the kicks are not too steep. Basically it lets me press the kicks down on top ever so slightly to get pressure off the wheel/ledge side.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on October 18, 2022, 04:33:39 PM
Is pinching grinds and doing slide-to-grind combinations (noselide to crook, tailslide to 5-0, etc.) technically easier on more magic carpet-leaning setups or when having your trucks flush with the deck?  I feel like I can picture pros and cons of each.  Currently going through a bit of setup madness deciding what trucks to commit to…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 18, 2022, 05:18:29 PM
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Few questions:


-Why are forward flips with my 8.25 AWS deck so much harder than with all decks I was skating before?
Probably cause it’s damn long compared to most other decks; right? Or you think it could be nose steepness related or something else?


-why the hell i was thinking nose and tailslides suck with thunders? I was getting rid of them because of that and now I’m back on them because my new ones broke and I’m doing the best nose and tail slides I’ve ever done.
I don’t get it. Last time I had them I got stuck so easy and now it’s completely gone.
I don’t think it’s wheels related. I had bones OG’s 53 mm 100A last time and now 54 mm /some orbs 99A cause they’ve been cheap.
Btw I had venture v hollows with bones 52 mm stf’s before. 103A and even with those I didn’t slide that good.

-pressure flips and truck/deck width differences.
I guess worst case for pressure flips of all kind are smaller trucks than deck, right? Would explain why they are so easy now again that I got down to an 8.125 from an 8.25 with 8“ trucks.
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I don't have any nose/tailslide issues with Thunders IF, and it is a big IF, there is a bit of flat after the bolts and the kicks are not too steep. Basically it lets me press the kicks down on top ever so slightly to get pressure off the wheel/ledge side.

Yeah me neither now. But this confuses me, cause I really could nose and tailslide with them a year ago.
Still I’ll get ventures again soon.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 18, 2022, 08:48:54 PM
Is pinching grinds and doing slide-to-grind combinations (noselide to crook, tailslide to 5-0, etc.) technically easier on more magic carpet-leaning setups or when having your trucks flush with the deck?  I feel like I can picture pros and cons of each.  Currently going through a bit of setup madness deciding what trucks to commit to…

Not sure as I've almost never really skated magic carpet setups but i feel like standard sizing would be easier since you have consistent surface area of truck to board instead of having to guess a little bit more with magic carpet.

Could be wrong entirely tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 18, 2022, 09:09:58 PM
Wider trucks pinch a bit more level if that makes sense.  I felt with 148s my tail was higher above the ledge when I crooked because there was less distance from where the grind was to the kingpin, which makes a steeper angle of articulation.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on October 18, 2022, 09:18:55 PM
Is pinching grinds and doing slide-to-grind combinations (noselide to crook, tailslide to 5-0, etc.) technically easier on more magic carpet-leaning setups or when having your trucks flush with the deck?  I feel like I can picture pros and cons of each.  Currently going through a bit of setup madness deciding what trucks to commit to…

I don't do tailslide to 5-0's but I occasionally do noseslide to crooks and have observed those only really work for me when I have extremely loose trucks. When the front truck already is jingling around or getting contorted during the noseslide, it really takes a fraction of the usual nudge to hop and get it on top of the ledge. Can't really cheat nearly as much on a tight set-up - less leeway. You may be onto something too though since it's true that every 'era' where I've found myself doing that trick I always was skating decks wider than my trucks (these days I like 139mms on 8.25's but for a while used to be into 129mms on larger decks than that).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 19, 2022, 12:29:19 PM
If I’d go for 8.125 decks over the next months ;
8“ or 8.25“ trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 19, 2022, 01:31:44 PM
Depends on brand. Thunder 8" trucks are lower so if Thunders, 148. If you wanna skate 8.25 ever I'd do 8.25 trucks regardless
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Candied cigarettes on October 19, 2022, 03:42:39 PM
Was thinking recently about getting a zero board after seeing that Jamie Thomas vid in the other thread.

Can anyone report out on what the shapes are like? For reference, I typically skate baker boards, I also like sci fi fantasy boards.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on October 19, 2022, 03:59:22 PM
Was thinking recently about getting a zero board after seeing that Jamie Thomas vid in the other thread.

Can anyone report out on what the shapes are like? For reference, I typically skate baker boards, I also like sci fi fantasy boards.

I had a shop employee try to sell me on Zero deck, he told me they have a pretty full shape and steep concave. If you like the Quasi/Polar/FA sort of boards, you might like a zero. He also said the wood was pretty good, durable.

I didn't buy one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on October 19, 2022, 07:16:37 PM
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0005V0BKA-HERO?wid=800&hei=800&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)



Am I the only one who didn’t know that’s vans had waffle cup sk8 high as part of the bmx line?

Anyone skate vans bmx?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 19, 2022, 08:18:58 PM
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Was thinking recently about getting a zero board after seeing that Jamie Thomas vid in the other thread.

Can anyone report out on what the shapes are like? For reference, I typically skate baker boards, I also like sci fi fantasy boards.
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I had a shop employee try to sell me on Zero deck, he told me they have a pretty full shape and steep concave. If you like the Quasi/Polar/FA sort of boards, you might like a zero. He also said the wood was pretty good, durable.

I didn't buy one.


Depends what part of the world you are in too.

Here in AU they are not the same and I wouldn't touch them for what wood they are on (misc from China, but just feel wrong when I stand on them), but in USA they are at last check on BBS, same shapes as most of the good ones, especially in the 8.5 size, so comparable to any number of top brands that all use the same wood.

I would have to look at it and stand on it to see first though, but if it has the BBS hologram sticker or "Made in Mexico" warning sticker, then it would be ok - the same as Baker and Sci Fi wood, for exact reference.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 19, 2022, 08:24:22 PM

Am I the only one who didn’t know that’s vans had waffle cup sk8 high as part of the bmx line?

Anyone skate vans bmx?


I think there were a couple of threads about those ones a while back, but others have said they hold up a lot better than the old pro line, which isn't hard, but haven't heard anyone compare them to the new skate line.


One specific but short thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114021.0


I know they were talked about in one or both of the Vans shoes threads too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 21, 2022, 08:41:49 AM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on October 21, 2022, 09:04:08 AM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)
I wear through the soles pretty fast as well. I retire them once there’s a completely bald spot on the bottom. I’d retire that pair for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on October 21, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)

If it feels risky I'd retire them however looking at those photos if they were my shoes I'd probably skate em till there's a bigger hole in the bottom. I tend to wear the sides out before the soles and will use shoe goo as long as I can till the shoe gets floppy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 21, 2022, 10:02:36 AM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)

Gotta feel it. If there's still enough grip then they're fine. Looks ok to me for a few more sessions
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on October 21, 2022, 10:41:52 AM
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When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)
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Gotta feel it. If there's still enough grip then they're fine. Looks ok to me for a few more sessions
I usually save shoes on this condition for fresh board, new grip eats them in a day but still provides enough grip to feel secure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 21, 2022, 10:51:54 AM
Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?

Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.

Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.



What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on October 21, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)

I change to new ones when the sole is worn through. Those shoes look fine to me but I'm not sure if the sole is worn through on the toes on the left shoe. Mine are usually way way more bald when there's an actual hole on the sole. The uppers I fix with various way as usually those go first for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 21, 2022, 12:25:11 PM
I've never worn through a sole faster than the upper, even with tons of shoe goo. I wear Busenitzes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 21, 2022, 01:11:44 PM
Appreciate all the responses. I’m feeling like this almost should have been in the madness thread :D
Seems like most are saying they’re good so I’m definitely going to keep going on these. I really like skating these so to me it’s good news. Probably time to start flipping the board a bit more :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 21, 2022, 04:18:38 PM
Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?

Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.

Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.



What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.


The DLX thread is a good place for this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0

Quite simply, yes all the normal 8.25 sized boards are the same across the DLX range, that is anything from Real, Antihero and Krooked (as well as There and Unity now too), but it is different to the Twin shape, the Full SE shape or other new shorter specific shapes (Mis Registered Eagle), so there can easily be a few different board shapes in 8.25 in their range, up to four or five at last count.

Most likely the shop has measurements listed incorrectly or haven't specified which shape it is, but that normal 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is more like 8.3 in width and wider than other stock 8.25 sized boards, when put on top of each other.

Normal:  8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb
Full SE: 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb
Twin: 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.33 wb
Real short version: 8.25 x 31.9 with 14 wb
AH short version: 8.25 x 31.5 with 14 wb


As to FA and most other brands, they usually have their own specific sizes too, possibly only one option on 8.25 decks, which would be used across various graphics and catalogs as most brands don't change up their shapes and sizes too often once they have them sorted.

I can't really think of too many other brands that have such an assortment of different sizes and shapes, but there are a few that have a short and a long version of the same widths, none as complex as DLX though.


I see more comments in the DLX sizes are always off thread, but this should cover it.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on October 21, 2022, 04:53:25 PM
I have an 8.25 Oval and an 8.25 Eagle waiting to be set up. Can confirm they’re the same
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on October 22, 2022, 03:28:54 PM
When do you typically retire a pair of shoes? I tend to wear through the soles faster than the sides these days, lots of slappy stuff. I’m not the type to always want to skate in something new but I don’t want risk injury with something too worn out.

(https://i.ibb.co/80wVjs8/B60-E2332-17-F7-4958-B23-A-ADC62-F929-BF7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/80wVjs8)upload private photos (https://imgbb.com/)

Usually when I hit insole.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 23, 2022, 05:13:41 AM
Do supreme decks have the same shape as Anti hero?
Somebody said so, but still not sure about it.
I had a supreme 8.25 deck from 2016 and it skated pretty good, so it would be cool to know
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2022, 08:43:32 AM
When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2022, 08:44:16 AM
Do supreme decks have the same shape as Anti hero?
Somebody said so, but still not sure about it.
I had a supreme 8.25 deck from 2016 and it skated pretty good, so it would be cool to know

No not unless it's a special collab. They use the price point BBS generics for the most part, which have natural plies.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 23, 2022, 05:09:21 PM
When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?


Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 23, 2022, 05:21:05 PM
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/

Good God that catalog was huge!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 23, 2022, 05:32:37 PM
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/
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Good God that catalog was huge!

Most of them weren't great but what did you expect when each pro had 3-5 graphics per season.

(https://www.realskateboards.com/realsb/assets/img/spr15-d1/dt/ELITES-LANDSCAPE-1200.jpg)

I loved these embossed ones, they felt like they slid better and looked so good with slide marks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 23, 2022, 05:39:30 PM
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When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/

Damn I thought these decks are a more recent thing. Only found out about it from a 2019 ben degros video I think and really wish I'd have known about them earlier. Changed everything
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 23, 2022, 07:20:08 PM
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When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/
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Damn I thought these decks are a more recent thing. Only found out about it from a 2019 ben degros video I think and really wish I'd have known about them earlier. Changed everything


It is a funny thing with some brands, but I do recall riding some Alien Workshop and Real boards back in the mid 90s that felt like the best boards I could find at the time.  No idea what width or any other dimensions with those ones, but guessing around 8 with nice big round kicks.  Then when I had a stand on some others in the late 90s they just didn't do it for me as they were way too flat, but it wasn't until about 2003 that tails started to get too small on Black Label boards I was riding between 8 and 8.1 in width, so I got an AH 8.18 board and it was exactly what I needed.

For me that was it, as they were readily available and held up well, especially the size and shape that just worked, so the 8.18 and 8.12 sizes I skated for a long time.  More recently I have been on the 8.38 although I have mix and matched quite a bit over the years since working out exactly what I wanted in size and shape, as well as doing a few things to modify boards in recent years (parking on them to mellow out the tail) and finding more boards across the brand range from BBS in the same sizes and shapes I was used to skating now.

I would never tell people what they should or shouldn't ride in terms of brands, sizes, or anything else, but so many people who skated my board always said it felt good, well balanced, skated nicely, etc so I guess I have helped fuel the DLX hype over the years with that too.


Happy to share the stoke with some of those catalogs!


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on October 23, 2022, 07:33:25 PM
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When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/

What a trip! Real graphics used to be even worse than they are currently. Those are 95% atrocious. Thanks for sharing. Would be rad to see more old catalogues.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: nonickname on October 23, 2022, 07:41:12 PM
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When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/
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What a trip! Real graphics used to be even worse than they are currently. Those are 95% atrocious. Thanks for sharing. Would be rad to see more old catalogues.

Damn...I had that Brock deck with the roses...was not a fan of it after setting it up - it eventually became a hand me down to my son.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on October 24, 2022, 07:45:27 AM
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When did Ishod start skating twins or Real start producing them?
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Ishod turned pro for Real in 2012 so quite possibly somewhere around that time.

For a while they weren't marketed as twin tails, more just Ishod shape 8.3 x 31.87 which makes it harder to find.

The Australian tour a few years after that with Real and Krooked had Ishod giving a board to Bobby Worrest, who liked it and was riding that twin board from then, but I can't find anywhere that has good information on the Real catalogs from back around that period.

Here's a 2015 catalog that is still up with a good number of pics that actually load, with a few of his boards in there.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-15-catalog/
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What a trip! Real graphics used to be even worse than they are currently. Those are 95% atrocious. Thanks for sharing. Would be rad to see more old catalogues.
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Damn...I had that Brock deck with the roses...was not a fan of it after setting it up - it eventually became a hand me down to my son.

That c2015 Real catalog is so fucking fascinating, It really highlights that era of skating
Foil prints, fabric prints, glow in the dark, embossed and Slick bottom decks. just gimmicks galore
Still not fully out of the transition to the 8.25 standard so lots of 7.75 and 7.8's
"wrecking crew" branding on shape decks to counter the growning Welcome threat,

those graphics were bad. I actually had that space cadet board, because i didn't realize at time of purchase the spaceship was on a blunt. I also didn't know it glowed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Weezil on October 24, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
I'm pretty sure had that space cadet board too, covered the graphic with a giant spitfire sticker
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 24, 2022, 08:38:28 AM
Crazy to see the artstyle change compared to now: from loud, edgy graphics to more minimal, clean graphics.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on October 24, 2022, 08:40:17 AM
Had a bunch of those wrecking crew boards some were alright others not so much. It was a bit hit or miss with bigger shaped boards at that time don't know how much real testing was done and how much was just this looks pretty good (altho as others have said graphics never looked that good)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on October 24, 2022, 11:00:45 AM
Since tyshawn left FA, what decks he skating?? Been watching hin skating a deck with basic crown with diferent colors on the background

He skating supreme decks? Maybe hes own hardware company release decks? Maybe FA painted diferent?


(https://i.ibb.co/0t57Qmb/B1-C0-FC4-C-520-A-4-C0-D-8-C7-D-0-EF1-E2527-E4-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0t57Qmb)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on October 24, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
He skates for Brick Underneath Skateboards and A Dream Deferred Wheels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 24, 2022, 11:35:13 AM
Since tyshawn left FA, what decks he skating?? Been watching hin skating a deck with basic crown with diferent colors on the background

He skating supreme decks? Maybe hes own hardware company release decks? Maybe FA painted diferent?


(https://i.ibb.co/0t57Qmb/B1-C0-FC4-C-520-A-4-C0-D-8-C7-D-0-EF1-E2527-E4-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0t57Qmb)

He seems to have something new brewing, I think oriented around black skaters and with a sort of “black power” theme, at least initially. I say this based around the two graphics I’ve seen, one of which is a classic black power fist and the other was a NOI-themed “Three Percenter” graphic. Should be an interesting aesthetic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on October 24, 2022, 11:42:26 AM
Since tyshawn left FA, what decks he skating?? Been watching hin skating a deck with basic crown with diferent colors on the background

He skating supreme decks? Maybe hes own hardware company release decks? Maybe FA painted diferent?


(https://i.ibb.co/0t57Qmb/B1-C0-FC4-C-520-A-4-C0-D-8-C7-D-0-EF1-E2527-E4-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0t57Qmb)

Same FA shape, different graphic
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on October 25, 2022, 07:11:40 AM
Isn’t that just a big hardies sticker?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on October 25, 2022, 07:37:03 AM
Isn’t that just a big hardies sticker?
Yes. I really hope he doesn’t name his board company King. Yes you’re really really good but don’t call yourself a King that’s just kooky.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on October 25, 2022, 07:38:25 AM
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Since tyshawn left FA, what decks he skating?? Been watching hin skating a deck with basic crown with diferent colors on the background

He skating supreme decks? Maybe hes own hardware company release decks? Maybe FA painted diferent?


(https://i.ibb.co/0t57Qmb/B1-C0-FC4-C-520-A-4-C0-D-8-C7-D-0-EF1-E2527-E4-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0t57Qmb)
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He seems to have something new brewing, I think oriented around black skaters and with a sort of “black power” theme, at least initially. I say this based around the two graphics I’ve seen, one of which is a classic black power fist and the other was a NOI-themed “Three Percenter” graphic. Should be an interesting aesthetic.
He also may be hooking up Zac Saraceno from Illegal Civ who is the epitome of a rich white kid. Dude had a bmw before he was properly hooked up. Talks about it in his nine club.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on October 25, 2022, 11:54:42 AM
havent skated in 10 years and im having fun relearning everything the past couple of weeks. i wanted to get a new deck (an 8.5) and noticed that my indys are only 8.0. is it that big of a deal? i used to do it all the time when i was young but i wanted some more thoughts on it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 25, 2022, 12:10:45 PM
havent skated in 10 years and im having fun relearning everything the past couple of weeks. i wanted to get a new deck (an 8.5) and noticed that my indys are only 8.0. is it that big of a deal? i used to do it all the time when i was young but i wanted some more thoughts on it.

Not really a huge deal, plenty of people make it work. It's certainly not wrong or anything. If you want to use this as an excuse to get some new trucks though, I can think or worse reasons.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on October 25, 2022, 12:17:36 PM
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havent skated in 10 years and im having fun relearning everything the past couple of weeks. i wanted to get a new deck (an 8.5) and noticed that my indys are only 8.0. is it that big of a deal? i used to do it all the time when i was young but i wanted some more thoughts on it.
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Not really a huge deal, plenty of people make it work. It's certainly not wrong or anything. If you want to use this as an excuse to get some new trucks though, I can think or worse reasons.
Yeah I used to run an 8.5 board with 8.0 Indys for years and it worked fine!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sadnocomply on October 25, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/c/clothing/


Y’all what the hell happened to paradeworld?!?! Since the turn of the year it’s nothing but designer bullshit. I used to come to this site for skate brand clothing exclusively and now I see $1,200 pants and $600 off white jean jackets left and right. What kind of shit is this?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on October 25, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
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havent skated in 10 years and im having fun relearning everything the past couple of weeks. i wanted to get a new deck (an 8.5) and noticed that my indys are only 8.0. is it that big of a deal? i used to do it all the time when i was young but i wanted some more thoughts on it.
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Not really a huge deal, plenty of people make it work. It's certainly not wrong or anything. If you want to use this as an excuse to get some new trucks though, I can think or worse reasons.
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Yeah I used to run an 8.5 board with 8.0 Indys for years and it worked fine!

thanks guys. ill probably just make it work for now and maybe get some new indys later on. i dont remember it ever bothering me back in the day and i used to have krux super lows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:05 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/c/clothing/


Y’all what the hell happened to paradeworld?!?! Since the turn of the year it’s nothing but designer bullshit. I used to come to this site for skate brand clothing exclusively and now I see $1,200 pants and $600 off white jean jackets left and right. What kind of shit is this?

Covid ended and skate shops didn't need to rely on paradeworld for online sales anymore, thats what happened. But forreal they probably weren't getting enough commission from just skate shops anymore and expanded to boutiques to bring in new customers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on October 25, 2022, 01:02:15 PM
Do risers change the effective wheelbase? Thunder cast adds 3.125” to the wheelbase so would adding risers change that at all?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 25, 2022, 02:26:13 PM
No
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on October 25, 2022, 02:50:15 PM
No
Thanks! Didn’t think so but I couldn’t find an official answer anywhere.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 25, 2022, 05:34:49 PM
Anyone know what boards Rowan and Jacopo ride? Baker dudes often have custom shapes or their graphics heat transferred on but I've always been curious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 25, 2022, 11:31:06 PM
Anyone rode a Paterson deck recently and know the dims of the 8.25 and 8.5 boards? Woodshop thread says they are Clutch but I'm not sure about which mold they use.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on October 26, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Any one try the Metal Fred Gall 8.25 shape? Thoughts or feedback?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 26, 2022, 11:39:27 AM
I have not skated, but it is the same Alien/Habitat shapes. Really large, full, squared off kicks that are not as steep as an FA necessarily. It looks a lot like the Manderson 8.38, but again is less steep.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 26, 2022, 06:51:22 PM
I have not skated, but it is the same Alien/Habitat shapes. Really large, full, squared off kicks that are not as steep as an FA necessarily. It looks a lot like the Manderson 8.38, but again is less steep.

Seconded, fuller kicks that aren't comically square and steep like FA / Hockey.

8.25 x 32.125 x 14.25 are some nice dimensions
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 27, 2022, 04:52:11 PM
How to do flip into board or lipslides on rails and not break the deck?!

Seriously. I only do this now with decks thah are done anyway, cause almost everytime I do such tricks my board cracks or breaks completely.

And I’m not heavy. About 75 kg.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 27, 2022, 09:59:48 PM
How to do flip into board or lipslides on rails and not break the deck?!

Seriously. I only do this now with decks thah are done anyway, cause almost everytime I do such tricks my board cracks or breaks completely.

And I’m not heavy. About 75 kg.
I think you answered your own question
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: radcunt on October 27, 2022, 10:04:50 PM
Has anyone done a front shuv BS nose blunt before?  For some reason I wanna see one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank Sobotka on October 28, 2022, 06:09:50 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkNaGsBMArt/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

What shoes is Jaakko wearing in this clip?

Black shoes with white laces look sick, might do the same with my black Accels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on October 28, 2022, 10:53:59 AM
Do polar jeans shrink if you dry them?

Backstory, I haven't used a dryer in 19 years, just have a Landry line/horse, but I need to wash them and wanna wear them tomorrow night.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on October 28, 2022, 10:58:50 AM
Do polar jeans shrink if you dry them?

Backstory, I haven't used a dryer in 19 years, just have a Landry line/horse, but I need to wash them and wanna wear them tomorrow night.

No, I tumble dry them regularly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on October 28, 2022, 11:10:58 AM
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Do polar jeans shrink if you dry them?

Backstory, I haven't used a dryer in 19 years, just have a Landry line/horse, but I need to wash them and wanna wear them tomorrow night.
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No, I tumble dry them regularly.

Great! Thanks and have a gnar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 28, 2022, 11:12:07 AM
How to do flip into board or lipslides on rails and not break the deck?!

Seriously. I only do this now with decks thah are done anyway, cause almost everytime I do such tricks my board cracks or breaks completely.

And I’m not heavy. About 75 kg.
Just like you do it without the flip. Don't jump way higher than the rail and put it down as softly as possible.
The options are flipping just as high as the rail and pretty much catching and landing on the rail at the same time, or catching the flip on the way up, at which point it's just like without the flip and you extent your legs slowly towards the rail, bending your knees to soften the impact.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 28, 2022, 01:36:47 PM
Has anyone done a front shuv BS nose blunt before?  For some reason I wanna see one.

I can't remember one in a pro video, but we used to do similar tricks at a slow pace on our little shitty skatepark ledge and my buddy busted them out constantly. It became his homie video dork trick. He claimed it wasn't hard but epicly bunted any time we called him out to do the "easy trick" at a spot. We literally took the fucking train to SF so he could do it at Pier 7 and he sat there and kept saying it was too windy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on October 28, 2022, 02:46:10 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkNaGsBMArt/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

What shoes is Jaakko wearing in this clip?

Black shoes with white laces look sick, might do the same with my black Accels

I think he's been skating the DC Striker lately. It's a budget shoe from DC Stan Smithesque cup sole.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on October 28, 2022, 04:03:30 PM
Do Violet decks have mellow kicks and concave?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on October 28, 2022, 05:50:31 PM
Do Violet decks have mellow kicks and concave?


A few people had them, but the question first is are they the BBS or PS Stix wood you are looking at?  Different boards came on different wood.


@tzhangdox Had one in this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3832819#msg3832819

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on October 28, 2022, 06:18:10 PM
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A few people had them, but the question first is are they the BBS or PS Stix wood you are looking at?  Different boards came on different wood.


@tzhangdox Had one in this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3832819#msg3832819

I’m not even sure…I’m thinking about buying one from the Frank Dorrey series.

A friend of mine told me the shape is akin to FA so I’m assuming it’s steep.

If there’s any more detail I’d be glad to find out. I’ll peep the link too!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on October 28, 2022, 06:40:30 PM
Do Violet decks have mellow kicks and concave?

Mine has steep kicks and concave, essentially identical to FA/Hockey. I bought one of the $35 boards they did in the first drop.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 29, 2022, 01:30:29 AM
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A few people had them, but the question first is are they the BBS or PS Stix wood you are looking at?  Different boards came on different wood.


@tzhangdox Had one in this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3832819#msg3832819

This one was for sure BBS wood 100% certain. Defs steep n full kicks just like FAs n Hockeys. Maybe not quite as extreme but hard to say since I haven't skated a square/steep FA hockey in a while but for sure noticeably steeper than all the other boards I skate
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on October 29, 2022, 10:26:17 AM
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A few people had them, but the question first is are they the BBS or PS Stix wood you are looking at?  Different boards came on different wood.


@tzhangdox Had one in this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3832819#msg3832819
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This one was for sure BBS wood 100% certain. Defs steep n full kicks just like FAs n Hockeys. Maybe not quite as extreme but hard to say since I haven't skated a square/steep FA hockey in a while but for sure noticeably steeper than all the other boards I skate

Thank you! Yeah I love the graphic - it’s the orange and blue Dorrey - but I don’t mess with steep kicks or concave these days. Appreciate the clarification
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on October 29, 2022, 12:23:06 PM
[Edit - retracted due to Don Brown's idiocy]
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on October 29, 2022, 04:26:31 PM
Not sure where to put this but puma Japan had a team launch

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkK3mg5j4cx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on October 30, 2022, 12:43:55 AM
Not sure where to put this but puma Japan had a team launch

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkK3mg5j4cx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Wish em the best it's gotta be hard to make money as a skateboarder in Japan but I don't know how all these companies make enough money to be worth the bother. Japan has its own teams for all the brands the rest of the world has but also gravis, ASICS, Areth, possessed, and now puma. How much space is on a shoe wall? (Looking at pictures of Japanese shops it's not very much space at all)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Justinshreds on October 30, 2022, 05:29:34 PM
How do the Converse Fastbreak Pros feel? Are they thick/stiff or thin/vulc like? I’ve been skating Nb 1010s lately and like them, just got some Nb 440s and hate how thin they feel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on October 30, 2022, 07:42:13 PM
How do the Converse Fastbreak Pros feel? Are they thick/stiff or thin/vulc like? I’ve been skating Nb 1010s lately and like them, just got some Nb 440s and hate how thin they feel.

thin vulc, closer to a 440 than a 1010. broken in right out of the box etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 30, 2022, 09:52:48 PM
Eh they're for sure narrower than a 440 and the insole is pretty thick. I found the forefoot was flexible, but didn't have as much board feel. The upper didn't feel as thin/flexy, but kinda mushy/soft. Less support up there than a Half Cab or Blazer let's say, but more than a low. I haven't found NB shoe that felt like them, but they reminded me of what a cupsole Blazer might be. Seemed like a step down as a shoe, but cool if you don't have wide fit and want the aesthetics. I was a bit sketched out by all the stories about bad durability and am selling my size 9.5 Fastbreak Pros.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on October 31, 2022, 05:49:44 AM
Any gun people on here, How grippy is the pattern on handle?
I'm imagining a skateboard but instead of needing griptape the top ply is textured for grip. Guess it would take forever to do this to a bunch of boards tho
https://youtu.be/tbdeYmPdlSA
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 31, 2022, 07:26:41 AM
Any gun people on here, How grippy is the pattern on handle?
I'm imagining a skateboard but instead of needing griptape the top ply is textured for grip. Guess it would take forever to do this to a bunch of boards tho
https://youtu.be/tbdeYmPdlSA

Not a gun person, but a laser person, and there's no way that's grippy enough for skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 31, 2022, 08:11:21 AM
Any gun people on here, How grippy is the pattern on handle?
I'm imagining a skateboard but instead of needing griptape the top ply is textured for grip. Guess it would take forever to do this to a bunch of boards tho
https://youtu.be/tbdeYmPdlSA

At best that pattern helps keep grip with sweaty hands. It doesn't have enough traction otherwise. Some firearm brands actually sell what's essentially specialized griptape for grips (ie TALON Grips).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on October 31, 2022, 12:24:59 PM
I’ve been skating decks about 31.75 to 32.25 for the last few years.  I got an uma and it’s 32.8 long with a 7.4 nose and 7” tail.  How is the length and nose  tail gonna affect me? I keep putting off setting it up but it’s all I got left. I been skating either antihero 8.75 misregister decks or the 8.6-8.8 creature stumps or Santa Cruz boats or whatever they’re called
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 31, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
Anybody got a useful method for flattening out slightly bent shields? I removed a few for cleaning and was a little too hasty.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 31, 2022, 04:12:00 PM
Anybody got a useful method for flattening out slightly bent shields? I removed a few for cleaning and was a little too hasty.

The  axle end of a skate tool or socket set works great on hard surfaces to flatten shields. 

Keep the shield metal up and just push down in a gentle but firm circular motion round to flatten them out.

A few I have done like this turned out nicely and couldn't tell the difference.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 31, 2022, 04:57:19 PM
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The  axle end of a skate tool or socket set works great on hard surfaces to flatten shields. 

Keep the shield metal up and just push down in a gentle but firm circular motion round to flatten them out.

A few I have done like this turned out nicely and couldn't tell the difference.

Thanks for this! It sounds like it will work well. Can’t wait to try it out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swongolianbbq on October 31, 2022, 05:50:44 PM
What size dunks y'all wear

I'm 8.5 in chucks, blazers, Tiago 1010s, tailwind 79s, Danner mtn lights, Adidas superstars, etc

9 in vans pro classics, Adidas city cup, most sole tech shoes like accels, spanky's, etc, xtratufs, docs, etc

8 in birks, 9 in chacos

I feel like with last resorts vm001 and halfcabs I could go either way 8.5 or 9

Even in a 9 I be having trouble getting my foot into a vans slip on without ripping it

Feet beef

I had some dunk mids in like 2011 that were 9.5's and I remember them being narrow

But I like blazers in 8.5, even though they start narrow I blow em out and plan on microwaving my dunks anyway like I used to do with my emerica cupsoles

Not sure if I should get a 9 or 9.5

Anybody got blazers and dunks and can compare the length of the footbeds/insoles or outsoles or speak on how they compare sizewise

I can't have vulcanized shoes that are too long, cause they get all flappy at the end. With cupsoles it's not as big of a deal.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 31, 2022, 06:10:24 PM
What size dunks y'all wear

I'm 8.5 in chucks, blazers, Tiago 1010s, tailwind 79s, Danner mtn lights, Adidas superstars, etc

9 in vans pro classics, Adidas city cup, most sole tech shoes like accels, spanky's, etc, xtratufs, docs, etc

8 in birks, 9 in chacos

I feel like with last resorts vm001 and halfcabs I could go either way 8.5 or 9

Even in a 9 I be having trouble getting my foot into a vans slip on without ripping it

Feet beef

I had some dunk mids in like 2011 that were 9.5's and I remember them being narrow

But I like blazers in 8.5, even though they start narrow I blow em out and plan on microwaving my dunks anyway like I used to do with my emerica cupsoles

Not sure if I should get a 9 or 9.5

Anybody got blazers and dunks and can compare the length of the footbeds/insoles or outsoles or speak on how they compare sizewise

I can't have vulcanized shoes that are too long, cause they get all flappy at the end. With cupsoles it's not as big of a deal.

Dunks are TTS for me just like Vans and Lakai. Haven't had a need to size up/down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swongolianbbq on October 31, 2022, 06:57:06 PM
Leaning towards 9 as the winner
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 01, 2022, 03:03:21 PM
I’ve been skating decks about 31.75 to 32.25 for the last few years.  I got an uma and it’s 32.8 long with a 7.4 nose and 7” tail.  How is the length and nose  tail gonna affect me? I keep putting off setting it up but it’s all I got left. I been skating either antihero 8.75 misregister decks or the 8.6-8.8 creature stumps or Santa Cruz boats or whatever they’re called
i personally wouldnt jump that much up in length
also prefer 31.75 - 32ish long boards myself
dont see the need for anything much longer, at least on street
makes rotational tricks feel clunky or at best too much effort
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on November 01, 2022, 03:35:20 PM
What size dunks y'all wear

I'm 8.5 in chucks, blazers, Tiago 1010s, tailwind 79s, Danner mtn lights, Adidas superstars, etc

9 in vans pro classics, Adidas city cup, most sole tech shoes like accels, spanky's, etc, xtratufs, docs, etc

8 in birks, 9 in chacos

I feel like with last resorts vm001 and halfcabs I could go either way 8.5 or 9

Even in a 9 I be having trouble getting my foot into a vans slip on without ripping it

Feet beef

I had some dunk mids in like 2011 that were 9.5's and I remember them being narrow

But I like blazers in 8.5, even though they start narrow I blow em out and plan on microwaving my dunks anyway like I used to do with my emerica cupsoles

Not sure if I should get a 9 or 9.5

Anybody got blazers and dunks and can compare the length of the footbeds/insoles or outsoles or speak on how they compare sizewise

I can't have vulcanized shoes that are too long, cause they get all flappy at the end. With cupsoles it's not as big of a deal.

I'd go 9. I wear dunks, Ishods, and blazer lows in 9.5 and don't feel I need to go up or down in size. I could probably go down to a 9 in dunk highs if I wanted a snugger fit but don't feel it's necessary. Blazers and Ishods feel little narrow in the forefoot at first but break in nicely for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 02, 2022, 01:30:34 AM
Dunks are pretty TTS, but you could get away with 0.5 up to be a little  more comfortable since they might be a little snug depending on  how cups fit on ya
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 02, 2022, 01:55:39 AM
Stupid question / rather looking for confirmation, but am I right assuming that Indy stock top bushings (any bushings really) will turn mushy with age so that you have to steadily tighten the kingpin (or replace the bushings) if you want the tightness to stay identical all the time?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 02, 2022, 02:08:52 AM
Stupid question / rather looking for confirmation, but am I right assuming that Indy stock top bushings (any bushings really) will turn mushy with age so that you have to steadily tighten the kingpin (or replace the bushings) if you want the tightness to stay identical all the time?
In my experience this is the case with every bushing. It's just how they wear out. If you're tightening every session something may be up tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on November 02, 2022, 04:19:53 AM
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Anybody got a useful method for flattening out slightly bent shields? I removed a few for cleaning and was a little too hasty.
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The  axle end of a skate tool or socket set works great on hard surfaces to flatten shields. 

Keep the shield metal up and just push down in a gentle but firm circular motion round to flatten them out.

A few I have done like this turned out nicely and couldn't tell the difference.
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Thanks for this! It sounds like it will work well. Can’t wait to try it out.

I tried this yesterday and it worked sooo good! Thanks again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 02, 2022, 05:07:45 AM
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Stupid question / rather looking for confirmation, but am I right assuming that Indy stock top bushings (any bushings really) will turn mushy with age so that you have to steadily tighten the kingpin (or replace the bushings) if you want the tightness to stay identical all the time?
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In my experience this is the case with every bushing. It's just how they wear out. If you're tightening every session something may be up tho

Thanks, that‘s what I thought. I haven‘t tightened them in many moons so a wee bit of tightening might be in order.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on November 02, 2022, 05:50:03 AM
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Stupid question / rather looking for confirmation, but am I right assuming that Indy stock top bushings (any bushings really) will turn mushy with age so that you have to steadily tighten the kingpin (or replace the bushings) if you want the tightness to stay identical all the time?
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In my experience this is the case with every bushing. It's just how they wear out. If you're tightening every session something may be up tho
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Thanks, that‘s what I thought. I haven‘t tightened them in many moons so a wee bit of tightening might be in order.

I agree with Mean Salto, that's just normal wear when trucks get a bit looser with time, personally I just tend to lean into the groove and learn to embrace the feeling, I think it's cooler when trucks feel personal and so I never tighten them back. My weakness is definitely pivot cups though, I crack or destroy those a lot due to how rough and shaky a lot of the terrain I skate is, but stability there is as important as around the kingpin and so to be watched. I've gone long periods of skating with broken or missing/makeshift pivot cups and it honestly fucking sucks, potentially throws you off in everything you do.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on November 02, 2022, 10:06:10 AM
does anyone know hockeys difference in shape sizes? im looking at a deck and it says “shape 2” underneath.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on November 02, 2022, 10:19:01 AM
does anyone know hockeys difference in shape sizes? im looking at a deck and it says “shape 2” underneath.

Shape 2 is their "normal" shape, same length and wb as their normal shape, full nose and tail just not square or as steep.

I really liked the 8.5 I had, I bought it on accident thinking it was the normal shape but I got used to it pretty quick.
 
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Post by: manysnakes on November 02, 2022, 10:24:13 AM
does anyone know hockeys difference in shape sizes? im looking at a deck and it says “shape 2” underneath.

(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/645344/files/44090684/950x950x2/hockey-baseball-shape-2-deck-graphite.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on November 02, 2022, 02:07:39 PM
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does anyone know hockeys difference in shape sizes? im looking at a deck and it says “shape 2” underneath.
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(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/645344/files/44090684/950x950x2/hockey-baseball-shape-2-deck-graphite.jpg)

exactly what i needed. thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 02, 2022, 05:30:19 PM
I was wondering - has there ever been a study of goofy and regular stance? How the stances are correlated with handedness, how evenly are the distributed across the population, etc? Surf or snowboarding would be equally useful in this regard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 02, 2022, 06:35:22 PM
All I've seen is in relation to SOTY.

Does Baker sell the blue logo boards? I've always wanted one. No idea why.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 02, 2022, 08:26:16 PM
whats the quality like on sci fi fantasy hoodies?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: silhouette on November 02, 2022, 08:29:50 PM
I was wondering - has there ever been a study of goofy and regular stance? How the stances are correlated with handedness, how evenly are the distributed across the population, etc? Surf or snowboarding would be equally useful in this regard.

Bit of a Facebook uncle moment but I was sent this the other day and it actually low-key blew my mind in those regards, apparently birds have stances too:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chvw8TupUJ_/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 03, 2022, 01:14:47 AM
I was wondering - has there ever been a study of goofy and regular stance? How the stances are correlated with handedness, how evenly are the distributed across the population, etc? Surf or snowboarding would be equally useful in this regard.

gotcha bruh

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115864.msg3517896#msg3517896
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 03, 2022, 03:53:19 AM
I was wondering - has there ever been a study of goofy and regular stance? How the stances are correlated with handedness, how evenly are the distributed across the population, etc? Surf or snowboarding would be equally useful in this regard.

Jenkem had an article about it
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2017/10/12/determines-skate-stance/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2017/10/12/determines-skate-stance/)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 03, 2022, 01:16:18 PM
How are the Samba ADV different from the Samba?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: finalist on November 09, 2022, 06:38:56 PM
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Is there a way to tell which primitive decks are BBS wood? I always thought just buy "original" graphics and stay away from colab boards, but my buddy just got a Prod deck (white face with gold skull graphic) and it wasnt BBS. The sticker said made in USA.

Also, I just skated a Primitive 8.38 BBS board and loved the shape. Does anyone know if that size and shape is used by other BBS brands?
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Primitive uses a few woodshops, from the woodshop thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
Primitive* (US 2021)   ……….   ……….   USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Primitive* (US 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS

If it says made in USA it's likely BBS, but actually Mexico. I've seen team logo decks with the Made in USA / Mexico sticker, some with a Made in China sticker, so your best bet is to check it out in store.

Shape wise Primitive has unique dimensions for their 8.25 and 8.38:
Haven't had luck finding dimensions on an 8.25, but some generic Generator mold decks (Sci-Fi, Black Label) are 31.8" x 14.125. Real did 1 season of the Tropical Dream Oval which are as close as you can get to the Primitive 8.25 shape.

Not seen a 8.38 with similar dimensions in the wild either,
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I haven't heard many more USA boards so that might have been a once off thing.

Someone who got one said they were certainly different to BBS / Made in Mexico marked boards.

Yeah the others Made in China are different concave and ever so slightly different dimensions, but more of a Dwindle like concave.


As to that shape, I think April has one similar but I haven't checked to see if they were still around, but April did have similar length, shorter wheelbases with longer kicks.

Alien Workshop / Habitat and now Metal Skateboards also have the fairly long boards, short wheelbases with long kicks, but they are different shapes, way more stubby / blunt kicks.

Just a couple of extra things, from what I recall from people talking about that shape, but I can look up a bit more info if needed too.
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From the April website:
8   

31.91" x 8"
Nose - 6.91"
Tail - 6.55"
Wheelbase - 14.18

8.125 
31.77" x 8.19"
Nose - 7"
Tail - 6.56"
Wheelbase - 14"

8.25 
31.92" x 8.26"
Nose - 6.88"
Tail - 6.81"
Wheelbase - 14"
 
8.38 
31.12"  x 8.38"
Nose - 6.857"
Tail - 6.617"
Wheelbase - 14.395"
 
8.5 
32.2" x 8.5"
Nose - 7.0"
Tail - 6.5"
Wheelbase - 14.4"

You're right on the April 8.25, dimensions are similar to Primitive but I recall April being very mellow and flat. The 8.38 shape is weird, reminds me of Palace decks.

For AWS / Habitat I like that their 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 are all the same length and wheelbase (32.25 / 14.25) just narrower or wider, but the length can be daunting.

I’m a big fan of the April 8.25” bbs deck so I got an 8.25” primitive. I have a new April and a new Primitive 8.25” sitting right in front of me and measured each. They are exactly the same in every way I could measure (tail, nose, width, length and wheelbase) the only difference I found was the Primitive has a little more kick steepness in the nose and tail when I stack the two decks either way. The Primitive also weighs 20 grams more at 1245g. The Primitive is the Prod Knight Rose deck and says made in usa. Is that Pennswood or BBS socal??

I’m going to set up both with Venture 5.6 titanium, g3 bearings and powell dragon 52mm.

Update:
I skated the Primitive today and it feels like a bbs april.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 10, 2022, 05:25:16 AM
Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 10, 2022, 06:27:08 AM
Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️

Because it feels great, especially ledge tricks. You can do any flip trick on a 9" deck if you want. Street skaters have been riding 8.5 for a decade at least
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on November 10, 2022, 06:52:34 AM
Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️

For me being tall an 8.5 just feels good. I will occasionally skate 8.25 though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 10, 2022, 08:00:24 AM
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Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Because it feels great, especially ledge tricks. You can do any flip trick on a 9" deck if you want. Street skaters have been riding 8.5 for a decade at least

How does it feel different for ledge tricks.
When I went up to 8.25 I didn’t realize any difference in them.


Any flip trick? I mean yeah sure, but as easy as with a small deck? Like double hardflips or something like that?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 10, 2022, 08:04:50 AM
Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️

Large feet -> less toe drag. I am sizing down to 8.38 shortly tho but 8.25 seems like a toothpick to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 10, 2022, 09:52:59 AM
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Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made ‍♂️
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Large feet -> less toe drag. I am sizing down to 8.38 shortly tho but 8.25 seems like a toothpick to me.

Sure it does, cause you’re not used to it
Skate and 8 inch deck for a month and 8.25 is fine again.

I btw have size 11 and no issues with toedrags. Maybe heel drags with frontside tricks out of manuals (while doing the manual)


Why are you sizing down?






Edit: another question:

Why are 8.3 krooked decks longer than 8.5s? I don’t get it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 10, 2022, 09:57:46 AM
I’m going to guess people skate those decks because they feel right….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: geezer on November 10, 2022, 09:58:38 AM
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Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Because it feels great, especially ledge tricks. You can do any flip trick on a 9" deck if you want. Street skaters have been riding 8.5 for a decade at least
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How does it feel different for ledge tricks.
When I went up to 8.25 I didn’t realize any difference in them.


Any flip trick? I mean yeah sure, but as easy as with a small deck? Like double hardflips or something like that?

Also, going up to 8.5 means sizing up trucks as well. More space to grind, as well as slightly changing the angle your truck sits at when it grinds.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 10, 2022, 10:09:16 AM
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Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Because it feels great, especially ledge tricks. You can do any flip trick on a 9" deck if you want. Street skaters have been riding 8.5 for a decade at least
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How does it feel different for ledge tricks.
When I went up to 8.25 I didn’t realize any difference in them.


Any flip trick? I mean yeah sure, but as easy as with a small deck? Like double hardflips or something like that?
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Also, going up to 8.5 means sizing up trucks as well. More space to grind, as well as slightly changing the angle your truck sits at when it grinds.

Already skating 8.5 trucks with 8.25 deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 10, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
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Why 8.5 decks or up when you skate mostly street (park, but „street“?)

I would try one, but honestly I don’t really see the point.
Why are many people skate bigger than 8.25s when they don’t skate bowls?
Even people who mostly skate flat here.
It’s just hype or am I wrong?

What’s the point for people like me who are doing lots of flips? 

I have the feeling there’s even less 8.25 decks made ‍♂️
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Large feet -> less toe drag. I am sizing down to 8.38 shortly tho but 8.25 seems like a toothpick to me.
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Sure it does, cause you’re not used to it
Skate and 8 inch deck for a month and 8.25 is fine again.

I btw have size 11 and no issues with toedrags. Maybe heel drags with frontside tricks out of manuals (while doing the manual)


Why are you sizing down?






Edit: another question:

Why are 8.3 krooked decks longer than 8.5s? I don’t get it.

Size 10. I get toe/heel drag on flipping down things (curbs or the odd two stair).

I have received a Quasi 8.25 from my friends but I measured it and it was closer to an 8.18. Anyway I hope to set it up after the 8.38s. I still have some Indy 144s so I might as well give it a shot. I mean we rode 7.5s in the 90s, it‘s all in the mind.

Re Krooked: no idea, I never understood this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 10, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
So true 😄

7.5s man! A friend of mine who skated back in the days came to the park with a 7.6 some days ago. The deck and the trucks look so tiny now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 10, 2022, 04:34:55 PM
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Re board sizes, there was a logical reason for a lot of different sizes in skateboards, the main one is no one is the same shoe size, leg length, overall height, etc.

Having them scaled from 7 x 30, 7.5 x 31, 8 x 31.5, 8.25 x 32, 8.5 x 32.5, 9 x 33 is all good and well, but what if there is someone who prefers a skateboard that is both short and wide, or someone else who prefers a skateboard that is both narrow and long.

Some woodshops and brands will do a board that is uniform all the way through all the widths, eg HLC I think does a 32 long with 14.25 wb on everything from 8 through to 9, whereas others mix it up a lot more and make many different shapes and sizes to go with whatever others want, eg DLX through BBS.

As to the reason for some boards being longer, the DLX board range used an alternating option in width through the range, so it would alternate between longer and shorter as you go, as well as having a few different lengths for each width in the most popular ones.

The most common sizes before things went Full or Full se were as follows:

8.06 x 31.8 with 14.38
8.12 x 32 with 14.25
8.25 x 32 with 14.38
8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38
8.62 x 32.75 with 14.75 wb
8.75 x 32.4 with 14.62 wb


Then the "Blue eagle" seemed to be the most popular size in the 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb board for a while, so everyone thinks that is the only 8.5, but there were actually about three 8.5 boards in rotation, some more common than others.

This is not even coming close to the whole list, yes there are the 8.12 short, 8.28 short, etc.

8.06 x 31.8 with 14.38 wb standard
8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb standard
8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb standard
8.25 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb for Full shape
8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb for Full SE shape
8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb standard
8.38 x 32.5 with 14.6 wb for Full shape
8.38 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb for Full SE shape
8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb standard
8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb short
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb standard
8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb long
8.5 x 32.6 with 14.6 wb for Full shape
8.62 x 32.75 with 14.75 wb
8.75 x 32.4 with 14.62 wb
8.75 x 32.75 with 14.7 wb for Full shape
9 x 33.25 with 15 wb


Some of those dimensions might be a bit off (sorry) but the point I was trying to make is they alternate somewhat to give people options for width and length / wb.


In general terms, there is no right or wrong answer to what is the best size for your body size, shape, shoe size, etc.  There are small guys I know with size 9 shoes riding 9" boards and still doing tre flips and everything else, as well as others in the taller category, size 12 shoes riding 8" and doing much the same stuff they did back in 2000s, cause that is what he skated then.

If you feel like a wider board is more comfortable, good for you, or if a smaller board works better for what you want to do, compared to a bigger board, longer, shorter, etc.

We used to always have this sort of conversation with people who came into the shop, sometimes with some customers who would get quite heated at each other saying there was a "true size" and then someone else was wrong or whatever, but in general terms an adult can pick what works best for them and I would never try to put someone in a pigeon hole just saying they were a ledge tech skater on an 8" or a bowl lord on a 9" or similar, which used to be way more the case back twenty years ago.

Before that, everyone rode more narrow boards as that was just what we did, no matter what terrain you skated, because there wasn't half the choice that there is in the current market.  Board width overall has definitely gone from under 8" as standard to about 8.25 and bigger nowdays for most people I know, certainly my own boards 8 to 8.12 for a long time, now 8.38 and up.


*** Sorry if this turned into a rant, or has too much information.  I didn't mean it to be like that, but more just to help with any confusion.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 10, 2022, 10:55:47 PM
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Re board sizes, there was a logical reason for a lot of different sizes in skateboards, the main one is no one is the same shoe size, leg length, overall height, etc.

Having them scaled from 7 x 30, 7.5 x 31, 8 x 31.5, 8.25 x 32, 8.5 x 32.5, 9 x 33 is all good and well, but what if there is someone who prefers a skateboard that is both short and wide, or someone else who prefers a skateboard that is both narrow and long.

Some woodshops and brands will do a board that is uniform all the way through all the widths, eg HLC I think does a 32 long with 14.25 wb on everything from 8 through to 9, whereas others mix it up a lot more and make many different shapes and sizes to go with whatever others want, eg DLX through BBS.

As to the reason for some boards being longer, the DLX board range used an alternating option in width through the range, so it would alternate between longer and shorter as you go, as well as having a few different lengths for each width in the most popular ones.

The most common sizes before things went Full or Full se were as follows:

8.06 x 31.8 with 14.38
8.12 x 32 with 14.25
8.25 x 32 with 14.38
8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38
8.62 x 32.75 with 14.75 wb
8.75 x 32.4 with 14.62 wb


Then the "Blue eagle" seemed to be the most popular size in the 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb board for a while, so everyone thinks that is the only 8.5, but there were actually about three 8.5 boards in rotation, some more common than others.

This is not even coming close to the whole list, yes there are the 8.12 short, 8.28 short, etc.

8.06 x 31.8 with 14.38 wb standard
8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb standard
8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb standard
8.25 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb for Full shape
8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb for Full SE shape
8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb standard
8.38 x 32.5 with 14.6 wb for Full shape
8.38 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb for Full SE shape
8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb standard
8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb short
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb standard
8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb long
8.5 x 32.6 with 14.6 wb for Full shape
8.62 x 32.75 with 14.75 wb
8.75 x 32.4 with 14.62 wb
8.75 x 32.75 with 14.7 wb for Full shape
9 x 33.25 with 15 wb


Some of those dimensions might be a bit off (sorry) but the point I was trying to make is they alternate somewhat to give people options for width and length / wb.


In general terms, there is no right or wrong answer to what is the best size for your body size, shape, shoe size, etc.  There are small guys I know with size 9 shoes riding 9" boards and still doing tre flips and everything else, as well as others in the taller category, size 12 shoes riding 8" and doing much the same stuff they did back in 2000s, cause that is what he skated then.

If you feel like a wider board is more comfortable, good for you, or if a smaller board works better for what you want to do, compared to a bigger board, longer, shorter, etc.

We used to always have this sort of conversation with people who came into the shop, sometimes with some customers who would get quite heated at each other saying there was a "true size" and then someone else was wrong or whatever, but in general terms an adult can pick what works best for them and I would never try to put someone in a pigeon hole just saying they were a ledge tech skater on an 8" or a bowl lord on a 9" or similar, which used to be way more the case back twenty years ago.

Before that, everyone rode more narrow boards as that was just what we did, no matter what terrain you skated, because there wasn't half the choice that there is in the current market.  Board width overall has definitely gone from under 8" as standard to about 8.25 and bigger nowdays for most people I know, certainly my own boards 8 to 8.12 for a long time, now 8.38 and up.


*** Sorry if this turned into a rant, or has too much information.  I didn't mean it to be like that, but more just to help with any confusion.

Teach!

 I remember that after the shaped boards of the very early 90s when I started, seemingly over night footballs with everslick popped up and everbody thought they were the shit because they had a decent nose and the everslick was the gimmick. Then it peeled off and quickly got old but the nose stayed. Those eggs were still almost as wide as the old shaped boards.

The again, in a matter of a few months around the turn of 92/93 I think, the eggs were gone and the small popsicles were all they had in the shops. When my homies started to get these boards they were psyched because they flipped so well, and double flips were quickly becoming the lithmus test of being dope.

So far, I viewed this evolution of board shapes as progress and went with it. The new boards madeskating easier, at least the style of skating we were performing in rural Switzerland with no skateparks or ramps: mainly street/flatground and gaps. At that time, the narrower the board was, the better it was considered and we were actively looking for ever narrower decks.

Then the tide turned and boards started to slowly get broader again, but this time it was not overnight but a matter of months/years. We sized up to 8“, and the last deck I bought in 97 before my hiatus was an 8.38, altho that was exceptionally huge and I considered it as a cruiser and never flipped it.

When I came back to skating in 2020 I was surprised and a bit confused by the huge choice of board sizes and when my old 8.38 snapped I simply ordered another 8.38, a Real Ishod which turned out to be 8.5. I liked it, re learned kick flips with it and have stayed on 8.5s since they worked. I will size down shortly to see if I am missing something.

Tl;dr/follow up question: in the 90s there was no choice but to ride tiny boards, because they suited the skatestyle of the era; or did people skate like they did because there were only tiny bloards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: wheelchair skitch on November 11, 2022, 02:47:07 AM
I've managed t stockpile like 6 pairs of dunks.. and after realizing I don't like how thick they are, I am going to sell them for maximum profit. Any suggestions on the best place to do this? Ebay, FB market, one of those reseller sites?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 11, 2022, 07:16:00 AM
Both my pairs of Puigs reek. As have any any other adidas Skate shoes I've had in the past.

Anyone else find this ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on November 11, 2022, 07:24:26 AM
Both my pairs of Puigs reek. As have any any other adidas Skate shoes I've had in the past.

Anyone else find this ?
Got a new pair 3st.004 still in box and they kinda smell more chemical than ES but probably the same as my Vans Kyle Walker that I already worn for 2 days.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on November 11, 2022, 08:29:36 AM
I've managed t stockpile like 6 pairs of dunks.. and after realizing I don't like how thick they are, I am going to sell them for maximum profit. Any suggestions on the best place to do this? Ebay, FB market, one of those reseller sites?

I'd suggest selling local through FB or offer up to avoid fees. eBay if you don't mind shipping, they have the lowest fees for sneakers and heavily discounted shipping rates.
If they're highs you probably won't get much profit if any right now tbh, might be better off holding for 6 months
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 11, 2022, 01:44:33 PM


Tl;dr/follow up question: in the 90s there was no choice but to ride tiny boards, because they suited the skatestyle of the era; or did people skate like they did because there were only tiny bloards?


I think to some degree the evolution of tricks was more or less the main driving factor of boards changing shape from big square tailed monsters that were used for vert ramps in pre 1990, coming down to way smaller (not shorter) rounded tails and decent kicks at both ends for street skating around 1991, but as people were used to almost 10" wide boards, it took a while for the whole thing to slim down through 9" eggs to have straight railed sides and a more simple popsicle shape from about 1992 to 1994, at which time things started to even out and style was way more important than how many flips could be done - double or triple or more in each kickflip an inch off the ground gave way to a solid single kickflip over a garbage can.

That certainly changed things and thinner (lighter) boards were definitely way more sought after in that regard, along with clothes that fit more comfortably and wheels that were big enough to roll well.  As to the availability of anything wider, some of the less mainstream brands were still doing bigger boards, but most of the popular / main brands were doing everything under 8" with maybe one or so each run having a limited number of an 8.25 or something at most.

The few brands that were still doing wider trucks in the 90s were very big and heavy, so again, finding something that was lighter, like Venture trucks was the main thing and their team was stacked during that time, mid to late 90s being key for the brand where others like Indy almost took a back seat until they finally caught up with a lighter truck when Stage 9 came out in 2003, with the 00s redefining skateboarding board shapes and sizes ever so slightly, going more for the 8+ even if it was only 8.12 or something like that.

The other main thing to note is most of these skaters, pro or well known others, all were skating through that period, so there was no reason to change what worked for them, eg 8" boards were what they were used to.  Some dudes got old and went more for the bowl barney type board, which was wider, but most are still skating much the same board size and shape that they were used to when at their peak.  It is much more the new breed coming through that have sought out other options, wider boards, shaped boards, something different, but still more often than not something that someone has tried in the past anyway, but also these kids coming up are finding wider boards are quite easy to skate when they get used to them, now with lighter parts and overall way more manageable setups too.

Evolution of skateboarding is a funny thing, but also the pro skaters of today have found what works for them, the average still being about 8.25 in board width in the last few years, so not that much of a change up overall, even though there are definitely some dudes on boards around 9" still skating street stuff, as well as some others on boards less than 8" skating everything too.


I guess now there is so much more to choose from too, where there just were not anywhere near as many brands with as many board width options back in the day, but from a shop perspective, we would still recommend a 7.75 or less for a small child, an 8 or so for a school aged beginner, maybe an 8.25 for a large child and let any others of more adult sized bodies choose what they want by standing on boards, no matter how old they are.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on November 12, 2022, 05:17:02 PM
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Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.
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Yeah rails are great, especially for your type of skating. I have a dedicated curb set up with two rails, and an atv type board with one toe side rail. even one rail makes a huge difference in the consistency on your slides. my local has a terrible, sticky flatbar that's impossible to slide without a rail unless you wax it a ton. with one raiil i can just lean forward a bit and slide through it.

Rails do make your board sound pretty dead sometimes and definitely adds some weight, but i think the trade off is worth it, and I just keep a "street" board for flips and grinds if i want to get *~*tech*~*

Also, keeping the graphic clean is sort of nice if it's one you like

@BartHarleyJarvis - what’s your rail-placement like for the setup with one rail?  Thinking about one-railing it on my next deck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on November 12, 2022, 05:57:09 PM
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Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.
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Yeah rails are great, especially for your type of skating. I have a dedicated curb set up with two rails, and an atv type board with one toe side rail. even one rail makes a huge difference in the consistency on your slides. my local has a terrible, sticky flatbar that's impossible to slide without a rail unless you wax it a ton. with one raiil i can just lean forward a bit and slide through it.

Rails do make your board sound pretty dead sometimes and definitely adds some weight, but i think the trade off is worth it, and I just keep a "street" board for flips and grinds if i want to get *~*tech*~*

Also, keeping the graphic clean is sort of nice if it's one you like
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@BartHarleyJarvis - what’s your rail-placement like for the setup with one rail?  Thinking about one-railing it on my next deck

@big_kev_215
 I run it slightly closer to the edge than I would if I’m running two rails. Seems like it gives you a bit more control, you can lean back a bit to get more of the board or lean forward to slide on the rail. Also gets a bit more action on feebles I think.

(https://i.imgur.com/hMdAwJF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wsexm7S.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 12, 2022, 06:43:12 PM
Re: boards being narrow, then wider in the 90's/2000's.  They were narrow as push back to the previous generations as well as the focus was to flip your board.  The trucks were lower, wheels smaller, so a narrower board made sense.  People were skating slower and doing pressure flips and stuff.  Skating was quite small too, with a lot less diversity, so everyone went in one direction together, including vert guys.  I think Rodney had a lot do with the modern day popsicle too.  World was the shit, everyone followed their lead.  Boards started getting wider in the early 2000's in the rail jockey phase.  Then there were some retro boards, then Welcome started doing the shaped boards and so on...and so on...

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfakie on November 12, 2022, 07:50:40 PM
has anybody here bought a japanese vx1000?

is $500 a good price? I've spent a while on ebay but im not familiar on whats a reasonable price
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 12, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
Disclaimer: I am not a physicist.

Wouldn't wider trucks wheelbite easier? With a longer lever wouldn't you need less force to get the same amount of movement of the lever? And then since the wheel has a smaller arc it hits faster?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on November 13, 2022, 07:20:48 AM
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Have rails made (or not made) a significant impact on anybody’s skating?  I had a set laying around for like a year that I just threw on my current setup.  Plan to spend some quality time on them this weekend.  I mostly skate curbs and ledges so I feel like it is somewhat inevitable to go in this direction but it does make the board feel bulky.
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Yeah rails are great, especially for your type of skating. I have a dedicated curb set up with two rails, and an atv type board with one toe side rail. even one rail makes a huge difference in the consistency on your slides. my local has a terrible, sticky flatbar that's impossible to slide without a rail unless you wax it a ton. with one raiil i can just lean forward a bit and slide through it.

Rails do make your board sound pretty dead sometimes and definitely adds some weight, but i think the trade off is worth it, and I just keep a "street" board for flips and grinds if i want to get *~*tech*~*

Also, keeping the graphic clean is sort of nice if it's one you like
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@BartHarleyJarvis - what’s your rail-placement like for the setup with one rail?  Thinking about one-railing it on my next deck
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@big_kev_215
 I run it slightly closer to the edge than I would if I’m running two rails. Seems like it gives you a bit more control, you can lean back a bit to get more of the board or lean forward to slide on the rail. Also gets a bit more action on feebles I think.

(https://i.imgur.com/hMdAwJF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wsexm7S.jpg)

Word that makes sense.  Thank you

The rails really do unlock some tricks with little downside…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 13, 2022, 07:44:09 AM
Disclaimer: I am not a physicist.

Wouldn't wider trucks wheelbite easier? With a longer lever wouldn't you need less force to get the same amount of movement of the lever? And then since the wheel has a smaller arc it hits faster?
Maybe on a flat deck but the concave makes a difference. In my experience on the same board narrower trucks hit the deck and wheelbite quicker and I always just assumed it's because the deck is closer to the wheels in the middle. further to the edge where wider trucks would put the wheels the deck is higher.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on November 13, 2022, 08:16:40 AM
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Wouldn't wider trucks wheelbite easier? With a longer lever wouldn't you need less force to get the same amount of movement of the lever? And then since the wheel has a smaller arc it hits faster?
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Maybe on a flat deck but the concave makes a difference. In my experience on the same board narrower trucks hit the deck and wheelbite quicker and I always just assumed it's because the deck is closer to the wheels in the middle. further to the edge where wider trucks would put the wheels the deck is higher.

I don’t know how science works but I always pictured that when you skate a deck with narrower trucks relative to the board width, the edges of the deck are extending out further past the ends of the truck axles which is giving you more leverage into forcing the trucks to turn more easily, thus making it more surfy and potentially wheelbiting easier/quicker into the turn?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 13, 2022, 12:14:56 PM
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Wouldn't wider trucks wheelbite easier? With a longer lever wouldn't you need less force to get the same amount of movement of the lever? And then since the wheel has a smaller arc it hits faster?
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Maybe on a flat deck but the concave makes a difference. In my experience on the same board narrower trucks hit the deck and wheelbite quicker and I always just assumed it's because the deck is closer to the wheels in the middle. further to the edge where wider trucks would put the wheels the deck is higher.
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I don’t know how science works but I always pictured that when you skate a deck with narrower trucks relative to the board width, the edges of the deck are extending out further past the ends of the truck axles which is giving you more leverage into forcing the trucks to turn more easily, thus making it more surfy and potentially wheelbiting easier/quicker into the turn?


At the indoor park, we have a completely flat concave old pig shaped 10" board that I have had to put almost 1/2" more in risers than any other normal concave board on the same 10" trucks and wheels, cause the wheelbite is so quick and deadly, when compared to any and every other board with concave.

Yes the wider trucks seem to give a quicker wheelbite, but only on boards that don't have much or enough concave, so as the concave keeps going up the wider the board is, this will allow for more turn with the wider trucks too, as per other boards we have set up, that seem to not have similar issues with wheelbite.

In the same way, boards with wheel wells allow for so much more turn, even if it is just a single mm difference, so putting wheel wells into a deck might be a better option before putting risers on, for anyone who still wants a lower ride.  I have found that wheel wells offset about 1/8" worth of risers for the boards I have done that to.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2022, 12:33:11 PM
Ya I don't get it, I switched up to 149s cuz I thought they would be more stable, but I'm getting more wheelbite. I only switched hangers- same plates, bushings, and washers. Thunders. Same exact shape- BBS 8.38s/DLX 8.25, same wheels even.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on November 14, 2022, 01:10:14 PM
Winter has arrived on the east coast. Last 2 days skating have been in the 30s.

What does everyone think are the best cold weather bushings?

I used Venture stock on Sunday and blue Doh Doh's today.  Doh Doh's were definitely better than stock Venture but I know the new Royal bushings are far better than either.

So yeah anything aftermarket as good as those Royal bushings?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on November 14, 2022, 01:36:58 PM
Ace bushings seem to work exactly the same for me whatever the weather is (-10°C to +35°C at least)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfakie on November 14, 2022, 02:41:07 PM
Ace bushings seem to work exactly the same for me whatever the weather is (-10°C to +35°C at least)

where do you store your board tho?

if i left my board in my car, i would notice changes in my bushings based off temperature (cold especially)

but if i left my board in my house and went to the park, i never noticed a difference, regardless of the temperature outside, hot or cold
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on November 14, 2022, 04:08:39 PM
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Ace bushings seem to work exactly the same for me whatever the weather is (-10°C to +35°C at least)
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where do you store your board tho?

if i left my board in my car, i would notice changes in my bushings based off temperature (cold especially)

but if i left my board in my house and went to the park, i never noticed a difference, regardless of the temperature outside, hot or cold

I keep mine in my house always.  They freeze gradually for sure but still noticable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 14, 2022, 04:14:27 PM
Ace bushings seem to work exactly the same for me whatever the weather is (-10°C to +35°C at least)

That’s wild. I love my Ace but I definitely must tighten or loosen them considerably depending on the weather.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on November 14, 2022, 06:11:48 PM
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Ace bushings seem to work exactly the same for me whatever the weather is (-10°C to +35°C at least)
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where do you store your board tho?

if i left my board in my car, i would notice changes in my bushings based off temperature (cold especially)

but if i left my board in my house and went to the park, i never noticed a difference, regardless of the temperature outside, hot or cold

Usually inside but sometimes there’s no choice and it’s in the trunk. Never noticed any issues with it being in the trunk even at -25°C and going skating the indoor park right afterwards.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 14, 2022, 11:05:15 PM
I'm kinda curious why my 149 indys have the extra bolt pattern in them when I've heard they're only only 159s and up. Granted I got them like 4 years ago, but I can't find any similar ones anywhere now. Probably a big nothing burger but yeah just curious. I definitely see why they changed the pattern cause I've almost noselid right through the extra drilled holes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 14, 2022, 11:21:48 PM
I'm kinda curious why my 149 indys have the extra bolt pattern in them when I've heard they're only only 159s and up. Granted I got them like 4 years ago, but I can't find any similar ones anywhere now. Probably a big nothing burger but yeah just curious. I definitely see why they changed the pattern cause I've almost noselid right through the extra drilled holes.
A) are they definatly 149s b) are they first hand c) is there any chance you swapped the baseplate and forgot d) is there a chance they are fakes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 14, 2022, 11:38:54 PM
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I'm kinda curious why my 149 indys have the extra bolt pattern in them when I've heard they're only only 159s and up. Granted I got them like 4 years ago, but I can't find any similar ones anywhere now. Probably a big nothing burger but yeah just curious. I definitely see why they changed the pattern cause I've almost noselid right through the extra drilled holes.
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A) are they definatly 149s b) are they first hand c) is there any chance you swapped the baseplate and forgot d) is there a chance they are fakes

Well, I have a pair of 139's and they are definitely bigger than those. They are first-hand. I never switch around truck parts like that. I highly doubt they are fake but I did buy them from Zumiez online (I'm sorry they were at least $30 less than buying at the local shop) with some crappy bones 100's 55mm like 4 years ago when I first was trying to make my comeback and got a cheap 8.5 consolidated board. I wanted to try a bigger transition-style setup without breaking the bank and the board was like $60 Canadian from the local shop which is almost unheard of here.

They fit my 8.5 normally and at certain angles, you can see the wheels and axle nut just poking out on my 8.375 currently. But if you look straight down it looks fine. 159's on a 8.375 would be pretty obvious I think but who knows... I have pretty poor eyesight and all my glasses are currently broken lol...

Not sure if the pics will even help but yeah. Also not sure what's going on but my wheels/axles look kind of fucked in the full board shot like they're bent or crooked or something.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3N9DMxKr/20221114-231641.jpg)

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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on November 15, 2022, 01:22:03 AM
Don’t Indys have markings in the hanger somewhere for the width? I remember it being something like:
109: I
129: II
139: III
144: IIII
149: IV
159: V
169: VI
215: VII

You could check if they have that. I suspect you’ll find a V there and those are 159s. Or you could also measure them if you have a tape measure or a ruler.  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 15, 2022, 04:25:16 AM
maybe they swapped the baseplates at the store for some reason
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 15, 2022, 08:11:08 AM
I could have sworn I measured them at 8.5 inches across the axle but now that I think about it that was the 139's that I measured since I couldn't remember what size they were. I guess they gave me the wrong trucks when I ordered 149's and I just never noticed cause they are 8.75 inches wide after I just measured. Guess I gotta get some 149's for real now. Disregard everything I am stupid lol. I'm not sure how they don't look and feel totally fucked on that smaller board but I kinda like them. Maybe I could learn some more fip tricks with 144-149s though...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 15, 2022, 11:13:24 AM
All my Indys have the actual hanger width stamped on the underside of the hanger. I just looked at my pair of 144Ti and they say that on there. My 149s say 149.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on November 15, 2022, 11:25:47 AM
All my Indys have the actual hanger width stamped on the underside of the hanger. I just looked at my pair of 144Ti and they say that on there. My 149s say 149.

I think this is a relatively new change.  My 159 hollows from 2015ish dont have this
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on November 15, 2022, 11:53:08 AM
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All my Indys have the actual hanger width stamped on the underside of the hanger. I just looked at my pair of 144Ti and they say that on there. My 149s say 149.
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I think this is a relatively new change.  My 159 hollows from 2015ish dont have this

It is. sometime in the last 4 years or so? @Xen probably knows
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 15, 2022, 12:04:46 PM
I'm kinda curious why my 149 indys have the extra bolt pattern in them when I've heard they're only only 159s and up. Granted I got them like 4 years ago, but I can't find any similar ones anywhere now. Probably a big nothing burger but yeah just curious. I definitely see why they changed the pattern cause I've almost noselid right through the extra drilled holes.

It's usually something banal like the factory ran out of the 4-hole baseplates and just swapped in the 6-hole for a day until someone dropped off more 4-hole versions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on November 15, 2022, 02:05:06 PM
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All my Indys have the actual hanger width stamped on the underside of the hanger. I just looked at my pair of 144Ti and they say that on there. My 149s say 149.
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I think this is a relatively new change.  My 159 hollows from 2015ish dont have this
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It is. sometime in the last 4 years or so? @Xen probably knows

No idea when the change happened, but I've pair of 144 TI with nothing but 'titanium' screened under the wing and some 159 forged hollows with nothing); no raised text near the axle at all. The 144s are def a 2-3yrs old tho. I've some 149 Ti from '20 that have the hanger text.

Regardless of when it happened, there is still old stock out there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 15, 2022, 03:39:03 PM
I could have sworn I measured them at 8.5 inches across the axle but now that I think about it that was the 139's that I measured since I couldn't remember what size they were. I guess they gave me the wrong trucks when I ordered 149's and I just never noticed cause they are 8.75 inches wide after I just measured. Guess I gotta get some 149's for real now. Disregard everything I am stupid lol. I'm not sure how they don't look and feel totally fucked on that smaller board but I kinda like them. Maybe I could learn some more fip tricks with 144-149s though...
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All my Indys have the actual hanger width stamped on the underside of the hanger. I just looked at my pair of 144Ti and they say that on there. My 149s say 149.
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I think this is a relatively new change.  My 159 hollows from 2015ish dont have this
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It is. sometime in the last 4 years or so? @Xen probably knows
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No idea when the change happened, but I've pair of 144 TI with nothing but 'titanium' screened under the wing and some 159 forged hollows with nothing); no raised text near the axle at all. The 144s are def a 2-3yrs old tho. I've some 149 Ti from '20 that have the hanger text.

Regardless of when it happened, there is still old stock out there.


Re Indy truck variations:

I think the Indy size number on the end of the hanger started around 2019 - 2020 as that is when I have the first set with them on from some old posts / pics and the cross removed coming into 2021, but as said they did have the roman numeral in the hanger yoke.  It is just no one really checked there much unless you took the hanger off or knew exactly where to look.

To add to that, USA stopped being printed under the baseplate in 2018 and manufacturing with "Made in China" only appeared on the hang tag from late 2019, early 2020, so it was around the time of the change over that the number started to appear on the hangers.


Re 149s or 159s:

To be fair, I know a lot of people who always rode 159s on anything from 8.5 up and people like Peter Hewitt (Antihero, Indy, etc) swears by the 159 on 8.38 combo for his boards, so that in itself is not a big deal.

If the trucks fit the board comfortably for you and you are happy with them, there is no need to suddenly change things out, unless you did want to have a different setup.


The funniest thing with the 149 / 159 trucks is the video of Evan Smith Independent promo video where he has one of each but doesn't know it, but says he loves his 149s or something.

The set of his trucks that came through someone at Florida - Tampa comp or something when he burnt his board and then tossed it - were both 159s, which he rode on his 8.5 setup with Spitfire 101 53mm Lock ins, so yeah others do it too.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on November 15, 2022, 05:49:28 PM
Yeah, probably when they moved manu to China, new foundry/factory, new molds.

My non-stamped 144 ti are from april '19
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on November 16, 2022, 02:04:29 AM
Planning on getting some 1010s, WearTested says they run half size big, others have said they are TTS. I've got a wide foot, US 9.5 fits well for DC / eS / NB for me. Stick with 9.5 or go 0.5 size down?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 16, 2022, 06:53:55 AM
Go to the NB thread and search. Personally I go TTS. I've tried half size down but my toes hit the end and feel a bit constrictednin the front. I have a low volume wide foot so I have to tighten them a bit more (not super cranked tho), but find that to be perfect. I also wear my normal size in 440 and tried half size down in 272. 508 I almost wanted a half size up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on November 16, 2022, 07:45:30 AM
When someone mentions the brand Pizza, What is the first thing that comes to mind?
For me its the odd taste/zest of pizza pringles. Taste nothing like pizza.  Does anyone else associate other brands with random things?

I'm having kombucha withdraws bare with me. lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: graibe on November 16, 2022, 08:05:49 AM
are tactics shop boards any good? Does anybody have experience with them? they are usually cheaper than brand-name decks so I was wondering.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 16, 2022, 02:05:56 PM
are tactics shop boards any good? Does anybody have experience with them? they are usually cheaper than brand-name decks so I was wondering.

Tactics are 100% BBS / Generator, so for those who like them, it is always good quality and something I can rely on (given I like the wood, concave, life of the boards), but if you are not so much a fan of BBS concave or shapes or whatever, then there are other shop boards on other woodshops that might be a better preference.

I never presume to know what anyone specifically likes, or to tell them what they should or should not like, but the list of BBS brands is extensive to say the least and many people like them.


As far as how much boards cost, with anything that is a company big or small, you are paying for someone to have a brand, a team, a marketing and promo budget, supporting skateboarders, etc.

If you just want the cheapest deck you can find, all good and well, go with a blank or shop board, but if you are stoked on someone or whatever, that is usually when people who can afford it will pay more for what might be almost the same deck, or out of the same woodshop, with some pretty paint that is going to cost a lot more.

Again the choice is yours, but this is another regular conversation in skate shops that some people may not be quite so aware of.

Sorry if that sounded preachy - didn't mean it to be.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 16, 2022, 08:38:02 PM
Don’t Indys have markings in the hanger somewhere for the width? I remember it being something like:
109: I
129: II
139: III
144: IIII
149: IV
159: V
169: VI
215: VII

You could check if they have that. I suspect you’ll find a V there and those are 159s. Or you could also measure them if you have a tape measure or a ruler.  :)

Lol this gets even funnier. I was taking apart my now confirmed 159 front truck since the pivot cup was broken and the hanger was wiggling around a bit feeling weird.

They both do have a V stamped by the top bushing maybe 1/4 inch below the axle notch thing btw so thanks for that.

Anyway I decided to just swap out baseplates because this gnarled up one is all bent by the extra holes and doesn't sit flat/was gouging a chunk into the board. Also feels like the pivot cup metal is almost bent into an oval or deformed shape. After taking off the hanger on my front truck from my 139s I noticed an IV printed on it. Got kinda stoked thinking I can try 149s on this setup until I look at the second truck and it's III...  My dad bought these for me 10+ years ago at a mall shop so some dumbass gave him two different trucks lol. Moral of the story always support your local shop or at the very least measure your damn trucks before you go off the deep end into madness.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 17, 2022, 02:15:16 AM
have a gnar
it seems you have something going with trucks sizes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 17, 2022, 03:36:04 AM

Lol this gets even funnier. I was taking apart my now confirmed 159 front truck since the pivot cup was broken and the hanger was wiggling around a bit feeling weird.

They both do have a V stamped by the top bushing maybe 1/4 inch below the axle notch thing btw so thanks for that.

Anyway I decided to just swap out baseplates because this gnarled up one is all bent by the extra holes and doesn't sit flat/was gouging a chunk into the board. Also feels like the pivot cup metal is almost bent into an oval or deformed shape. After taking off the hanger on my front truck from my 139s I noticed an IV printed on it. Got kinda stoked thinking I can try 149s on this setup until I look at the second truck and it's III...  My dad bought these for me 10+ years ago at a mall shop so some dumbass gave him two different trucks lol. Moral of the story always support your local shop or at the very least measure your damn trucks before you go off the deep end into madness.


Yeah that is the most annoying thing I think I have ever seen, coming from a twenty plus year shop perspective, when someone somewhere mixes up trucks so people get two different sizes.

There are some shops I know here in AU that do sell individual trucks and others like my spare parts section that I will take apart the team Thunder / standard Indy / plain trucks if or when people need one part, or if someone in your situation needs to swap out something like your 139 you might not want for a used 149 to make the set, as well as some other baseplates, if needed too - Australia only for me though.

Apart from that someone more local might have something to trade or sell you, even just one 149 hanger, if that is what you need, either on here or even have a chat to someone at your local shop.  There is often a bucket of spare parts under a counter which may be an option too.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 17, 2022, 05:55:11 AM
Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 17, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
Everyone's too nice and shittily filming tricks is seen as good now. Filming used to be kinda stressful if you picked up the camera you knew you had a job to do (capture the trick as well as can be done) and if you fucked it up your crew would murder you. Now everyone pats everyone on the back for managing to get the skater in the shot for a tenth of a second and doubles down by saying zooming makes it exciting.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on November 17, 2022, 11:02:00 AM
Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 17, 2022, 11:09:41 AM
^you get to wear what you feel like whenever you want and might be happier. Rotating shoes also allows the shoe to dry out more so less smelly and potential for bacteria etc. Might also give time for the sole/insole to decompress a bit but that's probably more of a running shoe thing.
I find tho if I skate a shoe for a bit and then put it aside the chances of me coming back to that shoe are pretty slim.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on November 17, 2022, 12:19:25 PM
I rotate footwear based on my needs at the time.
Vulc lows for the good days
Mids for the bum ankle days
Cup for the my feet are killing me days
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 18, 2022, 12:49:32 AM
I rotate footwear based on my needs at the time.
Vulc lows for the good days
Mids for the bum ankle days
Cup for the my feet are killing me days

I rarely rotate when I'm actually skating but if I do it, I do my best to keep it within the same brand or similar silhouette. I rotate Marana and Joslin or two different colors of either model to skate two pairs at once since they use the same sole. Right now I'm doing 2 pairs of KSL G6 to break them both in.

I can't rotate between a cup and a vulc comfortably, but I have done it in the past. If the two shoes are too different in feel my sessions are shit just from readjusting/finding the flick.

I'll wear  different chill shoes and switch to skate shoes for the sessions if that's also what you meant by rotating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on November 18, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
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I rotate footwear based on my needs at the time.
Vulc lows for the good days
Mids for the bum ankle days
Cup for the my feet are killing me days
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I rarely rotate when I'm actually skating but if I do it, I do my best to keep it within the same brand or similar silhouette. I rotate Marana and Joslin or two different colors of either model to skate two pairs at once since they use the same sole. Right now I'm doing 2 pairs of KSL G6 to break them both in.

I can't rotate between a cup and a vulc comfortably, but I have done it in the past. If the two shoes are too different in feel my sessions are shit just from readjusting/finding the flick.

I'll wear  different chill shoes and switch to skate shoes for the sessions if that's also what you meant by rotating.

Yeah this is the way. I have a ton of Last Resorts so I can just skate whichever versions I'm wearing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 18, 2022, 12:28:10 PM
Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.

Ask my water bottle….
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Post by: eSK3 on November 18, 2022, 12:40:13 PM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on November 18, 2022, 12:57:02 PM
What happens to the geometry of Ace if I run them on an Stage 11 Indy baseplate? Specifically, how is the turn compared to straight Ace? Are they gonna be 55mm tall? How about the overall wheelbase? Does it stay at the Indy 3" or move to the Ace 2.75? Can't seem to find Ace AF1 66 hollows anywhere and was thinking of making some frankentrucks to tide me over out of a set of of Classic 55s and some purple hollow Indy baseplates that I got on sale but have never used.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on November 18, 2022, 03:41:52 PM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
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The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on November 18, 2022, 11:37:11 PM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
[close]

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.
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Post by: Easy Slider on November 19, 2022, 01:11:58 AM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
[close]

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.

Gnar‘d, came here to post this lol.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 02:09:24 AM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
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The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.

That's the sign to visit the Sales Thread to pick up 5 pairs of the same shoe to last you throughout 2023
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 19, 2022, 02:29:10 AM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
[close]

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.
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That's the sign to visit the Sales Thread to pick up 5 pairs of the same shoe to last you throughout 2023
Is this something anyone (else) actually does? I hate that I can't just buy a pair of shoes. I see a model I think look good then have to pick out 3-6 colours of it. Then get around to wearing 2 lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 19, 2022, 04:40:10 AM
Thinking about finally getting on YouTube and Instagram; are hashtags needed for getting the videos out?

Are you using hashtags? Are they irrelevant in 2022?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on November 19, 2022, 06:27:18 AM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
[close]

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
[close]
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.
[close]

That's the sign to visit the Sales Thread to pick up 5 pairs of the same shoe to last you throughout 2023
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Is this something anyone (else) actually does? I hate that I can't just buy a pair of shoes. I see a model I think look good then have to pick out 3-6 colours of it. Then get around to wearing 2 lol

There is an all white shoe I really like right now that a specific mail order company has for nearly half off. I've got 1 pair breaking in and 2 in the closet and I might get more. I like basic staple colors nothing super flashy, so it's a good strategy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ride it to dust on November 19, 2022, 12:23:19 PM
The answer is probably in one thread but ive been waiting in the cold for 2 hrs so my kids can see santa and cant be arsed to hunt through..
Does running risers alter your truck wheelbase?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Paperclip20 on November 19, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
The answer is probably in one thread but ive been waiting in the cold for 2 hrs so my kids can see santa and cant be arsed to hunt through..
Does running risers alter your truck wheelbase?

No but it does make your pop angle steeper. Which will somewhat affect how tricks feel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ride it to dust on November 19, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Thanks mate
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Post by: komorebian on November 19, 2022, 12:41:52 PM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
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The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.

I skate a couple pairs of the same shoe at the same time and find a bunch of benefits. Mix it up with the outfit. They do last a little bit longer overall, guessing this is cause the shoes to dry out and they keep their shape better if they are skated every second day. Shoes, feet and socks are in better shape and smell.

Once they be “ass looking” they get used for solo flat ground sessions to finish them off. At the same time a new set finds it’s way into rotation. Skate LR VM001 lows and highs pretty consistently at the moment, so they all feel the same. I wouldn’t switch between different model shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 19, 2022, 12:48:11 PM
Planning on getting some 1010s, WearTested says they run half size big, others have said they are TTS. I've got a wide foot, US 9.5 fits well for DC / eS / NB for me. Stick with 9.5 or go 0.5 size down?

I typically wear a 9 and my 1010s are 9 and they fit just fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alraunen on November 19, 2022, 12:51:43 PM
Does anyone has a Polar Jacket? Is it worth the money? How does it fit? I'm in between sizes and don't wanna order it twice because it's getting cold soon. Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 19, 2022, 01:40:47 PM
anyone redrill their board by 1/4” (+/-) and have any issues?
is wood filler a good idea to add strength?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 19, 2022, 03:15:30 PM
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Why can’t absolutely most skaters Film skating for sh**?

Sorry, but this frustrates me right now.
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I have a few buddies I trust to film clips/shoot photos, but I still work it out with them on how it should look. Sometimes it seems like people have never seen a skate video before. People aren’t born with the technical skill, the artistic eye, or the ability to combine both. It’s a skill that takes time develop. If you’re not doing it often you wont have learned from the mistakes that make clips look bad because you’re still in that first phase

Question for people who rotate shoes/skate multiple pairs in any given time: what are the benefits to not sticking to the same pair every session?
I’m a lifelong skate only one pair of shoes kind of skater, but because I have little impulse control I might have to start dabbling with rotating
[close]

The biggest benefit is your shoes don’t look like ass as quickly.
[close]
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But then at some point you’ll have a bunch of ass looking shoes for a long time.
[close]

That's the sign to visit the Sales Thread to pick up 5 pairs of the same shoe to last you throughout 2023
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Is this something anyone (else) actually does? I hate that I can't just buy a pair of shoes. I see a model I think look good then have to pick out 3-6 colours of it. Then get around to wearing 2 lol


If I find something that fits well, I will hunt down any and every sale for that shoe and if they are on a really good sale, I will buy them all, when and where possible, usually more so just in the plain (black/white) but often in simple colours too.

Then I have cartons, 12 plus pairs in each, many that don't get worn cause I go back to the plain colours anyway.

At least people I know who are the same size shoe as me benefit from it, so it all works out well enough there.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 19, 2022, 08:44:48 PM
Planning on getting some 1010s, WearTested says they run half size big, others have said they are TTS. I've got a wide foot, US 9.5 fits well for DC / eS / NB for me. Stick with 9.5 or go 0.5 size down?

I know some others responded. I may confuse you more than help but most NB# run 0.5 small for me. I'm am 11 in most shoes but needed an 11.5 in 1010, 440, 533v2, 358 (Arto), and the 255 at least. I also 0.5 up in DC cups that aren't OG (Lynx or Kalis OG). I also wear 11.5 in a handful of soletech cups (Veer, Silo SC, Quattro, Marana, Joslin 1 & 2, MC Rap High). That's why I needed an 11.5.

They're more of a TTS shoe rather than 0.5 small or 0.5 down. Go with the size you commonly wear in other modern cups is my best recommendation if you can't try in store.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 20, 2022, 04:59:38 AM
When will there be drones that can follow skaters around filming them from not too far away and not beeing so noisy so we have good audio too?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 20, 2022, 05:17:48 AM
One of my axles nuts fell off yesterday. I rethreaded the axle and put on a new nut but it came loose as well. I put on another nut and it seems to hold for now but I wondered if I have threaded the axle too often. Also if this continues what to do?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 20, 2022, 05:38:51 AM
Are DC's fitting normal or small these days? Got a bunch of older ones and it's 50/50 if they fit or are too small. Specifically pure mid if possible
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bo Turners Masonic Fish on November 20, 2022, 06:33:00 AM
I wear a size 11 shoe and don't flip my board. Is 8.18 too small?
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Post by: vicious cycle on November 20, 2022, 07:36:22 AM
One of my axles nuts fell off yesterday. I rethreaded the axle and put on a new nut but it came loose as well. I put on another nut and it seems to hold for now but I wondered if I have threaded the axle too often. Also if this continues what to do?
Loctite blue should fix this.
If not, buy a new truck, safety first.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on November 20, 2022, 07:45:36 AM
I was wondering..
I'm back at snapping boards in 2-3 Sessions.
I went back from the new royals to Indy forged.
All three boards since then snapped on the inner bolts of the nose/tail.
Hadn't this problem with the royals.
So.. is the shape of the forged Indy plates somehow more prone to snapping decks somehow ?
I already checked for sharp edges and rounded them a bit with sandpaper. Yesterday I snapped a new board on a switch fs shuvit on flat..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 20, 2022, 08:29:27 AM
I wear a size 11 shoe and don't flip my board. Is 8.18 too small?
If you want to skate an 8.18, go for it. No skate police is gonna pull up and take you to skate jail because you are on an 8.18. I have size 11 feet and skate an 8 sometimes and it’s fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 20, 2022, 08:36:14 AM
2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bo Turners Masonic Fish on November 20, 2022, 08:38:37 AM
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If you want to skate an 8.18, go for it. No skate police is gonna pull up and take you to skate jail because you are on an 8.18. I have size 11 feet and skate an 8 sometimes and it’s fine.

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"Size Board you riding there, big guy??"

Kidding aside, I just mean I've been riding big ass shaped boards forever and I'm like "will this look tiny and stupid?"

But also I'm 40 and fat so whatever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on November 20, 2022, 10:02:19 AM
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If you want to skate an 8.18, go for it. No skate police is gonna pull up and take you to skate jail because you are on an 8.18. I have size 11 feet and skate an 8 sometimes and it’s fine.
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"Size Board you riding there, big guy??"

Kidding aside, I just mean I've been riding big ass shaped boards forever and I'm like "will this look tiny and stupid?"

But also I'm 40 and fat so whatever.
I’ve been skating boards 8.25-8.5” for a long time, last summer I decided to try 8” board with low trucks and 50mm wheels because I did my prime with that so I though I’ll be nollie heelflippin into slides in no time. Man that thing sucked, I felt I have no pop at all and I felt it was hard to land anything on that and I have size 8 feet lol. I’m not that fat but I’ll be 40 in few months ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 20, 2022, 10:08:12 AM
One of my axles nuts fell off yesterday. I rethreaded the axle and put on a new nut but it came loose as well. I put on another nut and it seems to hold for now but I wondered if I have threaded the axle too often. Also if this continues what to do?

The hardened steel threads on the truck are wrecked. You can try red Loctite and a decently long cure time, but unfortunately I think what you really need are new trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 20, 2022, 10:13:02 AM
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If you want to skate an 8.18, go for it. No skate police is gonna pull up and take you to skate jail because you are on an 8.18. I have size 11 feet and skate an 8 sometimes and it’s fine.
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"Size Board you riding there, big guy??"

Kidding aside, I just mean I've been riding big ass shaped boards forever and I'm like "will this look tiny and stupid?"

But also I'm 40 and fat so whatever.

When I got back into skateboarding a few years ago, I bought a big shaped board because they looked cool and that's what I thought 30-something skaters were supposed to do. It was fine, I could make it work, but it was never for me. Now I'm 42 and back on a standard 8" popsicle and I'm overall a better skater than at any other time in my life, even if I am no longer going to be jumping down sets of stairs or large gaps.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 20, 2022, 10:19:46 AM
Are DC's fitting normal or small these days? Got a bunch of older ones and it's 50/50 if they fit or are too small. Specifically pure mid if possible

The DC pure from years ago and recently fit 0.5 small. That one uses a last that runs 0.5 small like other models: Penza, Maswell, Kalis S, Cure, Manteca.

Other DCs like their vulcs or Kalis OG or Lynx OG fit true though. DC is weird with certain categories of cups fitting small. Kinda like NB#
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 20, 2022, 10:23:17 AM
I wear a size 11 shoe and don't flip my board. Is 8.18 too small?

What are you skating? Since you don't care about flipping, I'd say a bigger board could definitely benefit you. That's pretty much the only thing small boards are beneficial for. Just try an 8.5 and feel it out.

But there's also no reason not to skate the 8.18 if it feels right for you. Never forget, 90s people with huge feet used to skate 7.5s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 20, 2022, 10:27:05 AM
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The hardened steel threads on the truck are wrecked. You can try red Loctite and a decently long cure time, but unfortunately I think what you really need are new trucks.

D‘oh, I just hit the axle and wanted to find out if I could grind through the hollow axle. I‘ll get some loctite tomorrow.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 20, 2022, 10:28:50 AM
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The DC pure from years ago and recently fit 0.5 small. That one uses a last that runs 0.5 small like other models: Penza, Maswell, Kalis S, Cure, Manteca.

Other DCs like their vulcs or Kalis OG or Lynx OG fit true though. DC is weird with certain categories of cups fitting small. Kinda like NB#
Thanks mate. Yeah DC are weird like I said I have a bunch of pairs and half fit and half are too small. Even pairs of the same shoes in different colours the colorways fit differently. Or pairs I had and liked so got again and they are crazy tight.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on November 20, 2022, 10:36:48 AM
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One of my axles nuts fell off yesterday. I rethreaded the axle and put on a new nut but it came loose as well. I put on another nut and it seems to hold for now but I wondered if I have threaded the axle too often. Also if this continues what to do?
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The hardened steel threads on the truck are wrecked. You can try red Loctite and a decently long cure time, but unfortunately I think what you really need are new trucks.
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D‘oh, I just hit the axle and wanted to find out if I could grind through the hollow axle. I‘ll get some loctite tomorrow.

As someone currently on the same mission, buckle in. Takes forever….

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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on November 20, 2022, 11:16:56 AM
2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?

Quoting this because I'm also a interested in this, especially the second question. As a kid I thought Anti Hero was a brand more or less like any other. Coming back into skating many people regard it as one of the apex companies. How did that happen? I'm not hating on it, just curious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 20, 2022, 11:24:49 AM
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One of my axles nuts fell off yesterday. I rethreaded the axle and put on a new nut but it came loose as well. I put on another nut and it seems to hold for now but I wondered if I have threaded the axle too often. Also if this continues what to do?
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The hardened steel threads on the truck are wrecked. You can try red Loctite and a decently long cure time, but unfortunately I think what you really need are new trucks.
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D‘oh, I just hit the axle and wanted to find out if I could grind through the hollow axle. I‘ll get some loctite tomorrow.
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As someone currently on the same mission, buckle in. Takes forever….

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I abandoned these axled trucks after the threads on the axle got bungled.

(https://i.ibb.co/HBV6gFM/CA878-D87-17-A2-4-C4-E-85-DE-BCE7630-AF042.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HBV6gFM)upload image (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 20, 2022, 11:28:18 AM
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2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?
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Quoting this because I'm also a interested in this, especially the second question. As a kid I thought Anti Hero was a brand more or less like any other. Coming back into skating many people regard it as one of the apex companies. How did that happen? I'm not hating on it, just curious.

You'll notice that this is true for most of the DLX brands, and I don't think it's a coincidence that DLX more or less runs the skateboard industry. But for Antihero specifically, their team has always been stacked with some of the heaviest riders in the history of skateboarding and many of their videos, instead of being assembled from clips filmed over the course of a year or two, were ~45 minute tour videos, where you spend two weeks travelling throughout some corner of the world with these guys as they skate massive pipes or crusty backyard ramps. They found an excellent little niche which they've been able to grow over time, and it has stayed a much more coherent brand that most other companies who cropped up around the same time, even the ones which are still going.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on November 20, 2022, 11:45:49 AM
Does anyone has a Polar Jacket? Is it worth the money? How does it fit? I'm in between sizes and don't wanna order it twice because it's getting cold soon. Thanks!

I find polar a size smaller than other brands. Like the L hoodie is more like an M in passport/Adidas/etnies/Huf. Like more slim fitting. Mind I'm old and never really got out of the baggy stage. I've got two polar hoodies in L but ordered an XL jacket.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bo Turners Masonic Fish on November 20, 2022, 12:05:52 PM
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I wear a size 11 shoe and don't flip my board. Is 8.18 too small?
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What are you skating? Since you don't care about flipping, I'd say a bigger board could definitely benefit you. That's pretty much the only thing small boards are beneficial for. Just try an 8.5 and feel it out.

But there's also no reason not to skate the 8.18 if it feels right for you. Never forget, 90s people with huge feet used to skate 7.5s.

Thanks guys. I just want to buy cheap boards from the Hockey sale that I found out about too late.

To answer the Q above I skate pretty much all curbs, flat, mellow transitions. I learned slappies and shit on a 7.75" with low trucks so I'm not concerned about the functionality so much as I am looking silly on a smaller board. Which I shouldn't be worrying about in the first place.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 20, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
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2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?
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Quoting this because I'm also a interested in this, especially the second question. As a kid I thought Anti Hero was a brand more or less like any other. Coming back into skating many people regard it as one of the apex companies. How did that happen? I'm not hating on it, just curious.
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You'll notice that this is true for most of the DLX brands, and I don't think it's a coincidence that DLX more or less runs the skateboard industry. But for Antihero specifically, their team has always been stacked with some of the heaviest riders in the history of skateboarding and many of their videos, instead of being assembled from clips filmed over the course of a year or two, were ~45 minute tour videos, where you spend two weeks travelling throughout some corner of the world with these guys as they skate massive pipes or crusty backyard ramps. They found an excellent little niche which they've been able to grow over time, and it has stayed a much more coherent brand that most other companies who cropped up around the same time, even the ones which are still going.


Although the eagle graphic was the first one done for AH by Todd Francis pretty much the same time as the company started around 1995, I think it wasn't until about 2001 or so that they had a few different options for those boards, as per a paper DLX catalog I still have from that time.  It was a toss up between the eagle and the pigeon for the main graphic at one point, but both have their place in AH graphics.  Check out his instagram for some good pics / info:

https://www.instagram.com/toddfrancisart/


The eagle range didn't really firm up until a few years later, with maybe 2010 being one of the first years to have multiple eagles on different back colours for different sizes (also going by some more old DLX catalogs) but I don't have anywhere near the full lot of this sort of stuff, so could be very wrong.  Even 2016 or so there were still only half of the options that there are / were around 2020, with ten options, 7.3 yellowish, 7.81 light green, 8.0 olive green, 8.12 black, 8.25 grey, 8.38 dark green, 8.5 dark blue, 8.62 cream, 8.75 white, 9.0 orange in popsicles anyway, plus the shaped eagles - another five or more - raw / natural, black stain, blue meanie, orange crush, green giant, etc.  Then the huffer eagle, the beach bum eagle...  I should just stop.


As to the brand itself, as said, solid videos, rad team, definitely more relatable and of interest to more people I knew that weren't so into tech skating and more into "fun/gnar" skating, if that is even a term, as well as tours that came through and whipped people into a brand frenzy - Tent City 2003 - was almost the main driving factor for so many people I know to get into the AH way of life.


Edit:

Went looking as I knew it was in there somewhere:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLr2kBvBpwp/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on November 20, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
Are DC's fitting normal or small these days? Got a bunch of older ones and it's 50/50 if they fit or are too small. Specifically pure mid if possible

For me, a whole size too small. Over the last few years I made three impulse purchases when I found some DC's on sale. all of them were so small that I had to sell them. Size up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 20, 2022, 03:59:41 PM
The Anti Hero history makes sense. I was not at all interested in transition at that time and once saw Andy Roy smoking meth at the Ripon skatepark and always associate that with the brand even tho that's not fair. I wasn't around when they added Andrew Allen and branched out a bit style wise and did lots of tour videos. I never got to see much early Julian footage and I was wayyyyy too big of a wimp to relate to Cardiel even though he was clearly amazing and one of my favorites.

The progression of Real makes a bit more sense. They had a huge rise after Busenitz got on and always had a fairly stacked team and they released a few notable videos right at that point in my life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alraunen on November 20, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
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Does anyone has a Polar Jacket? Is it worth the money? How does it fit? I'm in between sizes and don't wanna order it twice because it's getting cold soon. Thanks!
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I find polar a size smaller than other brands. Like the L hoodie is more like an M in passport/Adidas/etnies/Huf. Like more slim fitting. Mind I'm old and never really got out of the baggy stage. I've got two polar hoodies in L but ordered an XL jacket.

Many thanks for your answer :D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 20, 2022, 08:17:00 PM
I'm totally in love with the Lakai Carroll's, sadly they're discontinued.
Which Lakais would be similar?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on November 22, 2022, 07:34:35 AM
I'm totally in love with the Lakai Carroll's, sadly they're discontinued.
Which Lakais would be similar?

so i'm not a lakai person/historian, but i see carrolls on their site?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on November 22, 2022, 09:35:53 AM
Looking for a very particular deck shape because my OCD has convinced me this would be a goldilocks board - mellow kicks, flat concave, size 8.5 or a wider board that tapers to 8.5 at the trucks, roughly 14" wb. I looked and looked and found stuff that matched the sizing, but gauging kick and concave on online shops doesn't really work. Anyone know anything close to this?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on November 22, 2022, 10:09:59 AM
Looking for a very particular deck shape because my OCD has convinced me this would be a goldilocks board - mellow kicks, flat concave, size 8.5 or a wider board that tapers to 8.5 at the trucks, roughly 14" wb. I looked and looked and found stuff that matched the sizing, but gauging kick and concave on online shops doesn't really work. Anyone know anything close to this?

Maybe try Baker? they dont have WB listed on all their boards but they have the mellowest concave of any of the big brands that I've seen. If you watch the most recent spanly part you can see his shit is flat as hell.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on November 23, 2022, 06:30:24 PM
Does anyone know of any US based shops that carry Blast skates? I want to grab one of those Snelling decks but probably not for $114.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 23, 2022, 10:08:33 PM
Does anyone know of any US based shops that carry Blast skates? I want to grab one of those Snelling decks but probably not for $114.

I’m not sure if they do anymore, but 35th Ave used to.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 23, 2022, 11:34:27 PM
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Looking for a very particular deck shape because my OCD has convinced me this would be a goldilocks board - mellow kicks, flat concave, size 8.5 or a wider board that tapers to 8.5 at the trucks, roughly 14" wb. I looked and looked and found stuff that matched the sizing, but gauging kick and concave on online shops doesn't really work. Anyone know anything close to this?
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Maybe try Baker? they dont have WB listed on all their boards but they have the mellowest concave of any of the big brands that I've seen. If you watch the most recent spanly part you can see his shit is flat as hell.

Skate mental had pretty mellow concave/kicks at one point. Not sure if their 8.38/8.5 are still that way, but could be an option. Unless im wrong.

But its also skate mental in 2022... do with that what you will if yav like the brand or not
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on November 24, 2022, 03:57:25 AM
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2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?
[close]

Quoting this because I'm also a interested in this, especially the second question. As a kid I thought Anti Hero was a brand more or less like any other. Coming back into skating many people regard it as one of the apex companies. How did that happen? I'm not hating on it, just curious.
[close]

You'll notice that this is true for most of the DLX brands, and I don't think it's a coincidence that DLX more or less runs the skateboard industry. But for Antihero specifically, their team has always been stacked with some of the heaviest riders in the history of skateboarding and many of their videos, instead of being assembled from clips filmed over the course of a year or two, were ~45 minute tour videos, where you spend two weeks travelling throughout some corner of the world with these guys as they skate massive pipes or crusty backyard ramps. They found an excellent little niche which they've been able to grow over time, and it has stayed a much more coherent brand that most other companies who cropped up around the same time, even the ones which are still going.
[close]


Although the eagle graphic was the first one done for AH by Todd Francis pretty much the same time as the company started around 1995, I think it wasn't until about 2001 or so that they had a few different options for those boards, as per a paper DLX catalog I still have from that time.  It was a toss up between the eagle and the pigeon for the main graphic at one point, but both have their place in AH graphics.  Check out his instagram for some good pics / info:

https://www.instagram.com/toddfrancisart/


The eagle range didn't really firm up until a few years later, with maybe 2010 being one of the first years to have multiple eagles on different back colours for different sizes (also going by some more old DLX catalogs) but I don't have anywhere near the full lot of this sort of stuff, so could be very wrong.  Even 2016 or so there were still only half of the options that there are / were around 2020, with ten options, 7.3 yellowish, 7.81 light green, 8.0 olive green, 8.12 black, 8.25 grey, 8.38 dark green, 8.5 dark blue, 8.62 cream, 8.75 white, 9.0 orange in popsicles anyway, plus the shaped eagles - another five or more - raw / natural, black stain, blue meanie, orange crush, green giant, etc.  Then the huffer eagle, the beach bum eagle...  I should just stop.


As to the brand itself, as said, solid videos, rad team, definitely more relatable and of interest to more people I knew that weren't so into tech skating and more into "fun/gnar" skating, if that is even a term, as well as tours that came through and whipped people into a brand frenzy - Tent City 2003 - was almost the main driving factor for so many people I know to get into the AH way of life.


Edit:

Went looking as I knew it was in there somewhere:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLr2kBvBpwp/

Personally, I didn’t take notice of Anti Hero until the Beauty and the Beast videos came out. The always had heavy hitters on their team and loved their skating but the personalities took it to the next level. I also think as i got older my tastes changed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 24, 2022, 04:21:52 AM
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I'm totally in love with the Lakai Carroll's, sadly they're discontinued.
Which Lakais would be similar?
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so i'm not a lakai person/historian, but i see carrolls on their site?
Not on the site :(
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on November 24, 2022, 10:15:01 AM
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I'm totally in love with the Lakai Carroll's, sadly they're discontinued.
Which Lakais would be similar?
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so i'm not a lakai person/historian, but i see carrolls on their site?
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Not on the site :(
figured it out, there is a very easy to get to knock off lakai site i ended up on. my bad dude!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 24, 2022, 11:32:17 AM
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I wear a size 11 shoe and don't flip my board. Is 8.18 too small?
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What are you skating? Since you don't care about flipping, I'd say a bigger board could definitely benefit you. That's pretty much the only thing small boards are beneficial for. Just try an 8.5 and feel it out.

But there's also no reason not to skate the 8.18 if it feels right for you. Never forget, 90s people with huge feet used to skate 7.5s.
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Thanks guys. I just want to buy cheap boards from the Hockey sale that I found out about too late.

To answer the Q above I skate pretty much all curbs, flat, mellow transitions. I learned slappies and shit on a 7.75" with low trucks so I'm not concerned about the functionality so much as I am looking silly on a smaller board. Which I shouldn't be worrying about in the first place.

For me, boards that are in that range, 8ish, look ‘correct’.
My glory (dramatic overstatement) years were 7.5-7.75. 8s look good. I personally do not favor how big boards look.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on November 24, 2022, 11:56:47 AM
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2 Anti Hero questions:

1. When did the Eagle series as a whole first come out? I remember occasionally seeing a black  and maybe a blue one as a kid, but not in the modern sizes.

2. When did the brand become so revered? I grew up in the SF Bay but only remember seeing a Gerwer deck in a shop. I only saw a few people at bowl centric parks on them pre Tony T. Maybe I was just too focused on Pier 7/3rd and Army and missed another contingent of Bay Area street skating?
[close]

Quoting this because I'm also a interested in this, especially the second question. As a kid I thought Anti Hero was a brand more or less like any other. Coming back into skating many people regard it as one of the apex companies. How did that happen? I'm not hating on it, just curious.
[close]

You'll notice that this is true for most of the DLX brands, and I don't think it's a coincidence that DLX more or less runs the skateboard industry. But for Antihero specifically, their team has always been stacked with some of the heaviest riders in the history of skateboarding and many of their videos, instead of being assembled from clips filmed over the course of a year or two, were ~45 minute tour videos, where you spend two weeks travelling throughout some corner of the world with these guys as they skate massive pipes or crusty backyard ramps. They found an excellent little niche which they've been able to grow over time, and it has stayed a much more coherent brand that most other companies who cropped up around the same time, even the ones which are still going.
[close]


Although the eagle graphic was the first one done for AH by Todd Francis pretty much the same time as the company started around 1995, I think it wasn't until about 2001 or so that they had a few different options for those boards, as per a paper DLX catalog I still have from that time.  It was a toss up between the eagle and the pigeon for the main graphic at one point, but both have their place in AH graphics.  Check out his instagram for some good pics / info:

https://www.instagram.com/toddfrancisart/


The eagle range didn't really firm up until a few years later, with maybe 2010 being one of the first years to have multiple eagles on different back colours for different sizes (also going by some more old DLX catalogs) but I don't have anywhere near the full lot of this sort of stuff, so could be very wrong.  Even 2016 or so there were still only half of the options that there are / were around 2020, with ten options, 7.3 yellowish, 7.81 light green, 8.0 olive green, 8.12 black, 8.25 grey, 8.38 dark green, 8.5 dark blue, 8.62 cream, 8.75 white, 9.0 orange in popsicles anyway, plus the shaped eagles - another five or more - raw / natural, black stain, blue meanie, orange crush, green giant, etc.  Then the huffer eagle, the beach bum eagle...  I should just stop.


As to the brand itself, as said, solid videos, rad team, definitely more relatable and of interest to more people I knew that weren't so into tech skating and more into "fun/gnar" skating, if that is even a term, as well as tours that came through and whipped people into a brand frenzy - Tent City 2003 - was almost the main driving factor for so many people I know to get into the AH way of life.


Edit:

Went looking as I knew it was in there somewhere:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLr2kBvBpwp/
[close]

Personally, I didn’t take notice of Anti Hero until the Beauty and the Beast videos came out. The always had heavy hitters on their team and loved their skating but the personalities took it to the next level. I also think as i got older my tastes changed.

Thanks a lot you guys, makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 24, 2022, 09:31:47 PM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on November 24, 2022, 09:50:43 PM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?

I think it's brand being pedantic to make their products sound more exclusive than they really are. In the rare cases they use the odd numbering to denote a specific shape / dimensions, only noticed this with Hockey / FA with their Shape #1 and Shape #2:

Shape 1 - shovel nose, steep kicks
8.0" x 31.66"
14" Wheel Base.

8.18" x 31.73"
14" Wheel Base.

8.25" x 31.79"
14.12" Wheel Base.

8.38" x 31.75"
14.18" Wheel Base.

8.5" x 31.91"
14.25" Wheel Base.

9.0" x 33.25"
15" Wheel Base.

Shape #2 - Tapered nose, medium kicks (I think)
8.38" x 31.75"
14.18" Wheel Base.

8.44" x 31.89"
14.19" Wheel Base.

8.5" x 31.91"
14.25" Wheel Base.

(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/645344/files/44090684/950x950x2/hockey-baseball-shape-2-deck-graphite.jpg)

(I mean not quite but took some time to put this post together and I ain't deleting it)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 24, 2022, 11:30:47 PM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?

Yes and no. Some riders: PJ Ladd may want very specific dimensions to the board they're skating, but the average skater may or may not notice it. Or at least get used to it quicker.

Some of those "odd sizes" have been my favorite in the past. 0.25" is noticeable in width for me and usually when you size up/down the width, other specs go with it: length, tail/nose length, wb, etc.

I loved DLX 8.38 for a long time because it was nimble like an 8.25 but wider like an 8.5 without being as burdensome as 8.5, can be. That said, 8.5 is my goldilocks and I skate tech/flat ground a lot. I begin to notice if my foot isn't fully on or not popping my tail in the right spot if I'm skating one of those "odd" sizes.

The 8.06 and 8.47 arr virtually undetectable to me, but 8.38/8.4, 8.125, 8.8 are all in between common sizes that they do fill a niche to be sold at all. Minute, but still present.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 25, 2022, 12:03:30 AM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?
Thought of it once as a joke but now believe it's just companies covering their ass for their shit not being perfect. It's not surgery 0.03" does not and never will matter or even be noticeable
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chronic85 on November 25, 2022, 12:57:38 AM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?

Bought a Baker Deck in 8.475 a while ago thinking i wouldn't notice the difference to 8.5 anyway.
I was absolutely wrong.
Felt much smaller to me.
I could've adjusted to it but didnt want to.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 25, 2022, 05:03:36 AM
What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?

It's often just a way to differentiate a shape. The DLX 8.28 is just a "code" for an 8.25 with a short WB. The Baker 8.475 is just a shorter, pointier 8.38 based on their 8.25/14.25 mold. Stuff like that. 8.06 is the DLX 8 with a 14.38 WB whereas they used to make an 8 with a 14" WB and an 8.1 that was an 8 and had a 14.25.

It's quite confusing. They could just use some kind of universal shape code like 8" long and 8" standard or something. Most of these companies now list the dimensions on the website or on the board. I dunno why people only go by width. The DLX 8.475 is clearly marked as 14.25 and 31.875 and the 8.5 is clearly marked as 14.5 and 32 they're not the same size or shape. Once you know which one you prefer you can just go by the width/shape code effectively.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 25, 2022, 05:13:50 AM
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What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?
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Bought a Baker Deck in 8.475 a while ago thinking i wouldn't notice the difference to 8.5 anyway.
I was absolutely wrong.
Felt much smaller to me.
I could've adjusted to it but didnt want to.


That one is interesting though.

Normal 8.5 x 32 (and a bit) with 14.5 wb, compared to the shorter 8.475 at about 31.8 with 14.25 wb, the overall width difference being about 1 mm from the two I have here, but yes it does make such a difference in the feel of them.

As said previously, alternating longer to shorter to mix up the sizes a bit, to try to keep everyone happy, for some brands.


For other brands, it almost seems like they try to come up with the most weird or unusual number combinations, just to have something different, or someone was high when they did them and thought it would be funny.

I don't go too deep into it but if it is about the right size and shape and feels good, then that is that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on November 25, 2022, 08:06:53 AM
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What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?
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Bought a Baker Deck in 8.475 a while ago thinking i wouldn't notice the difference to 8.5 anyway.
I was absolutely wrong.
Felt much smaller to me.
I could've adjusted to it but didnt want to.
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That one is interesting though.

Normal 8.5 x 32 (and a bit) with 14.5 wb, compared to the shorter 8.475 at about 31.8 with 14.25 wb, the overall width difference being about 1 mm from the two I have here, but yes it does make such a difference in the feel of them.

As said previously, alternating longer to shorter to mix up the sizes a bit, to try to keep everyone happy, for some brands.


For other brands, it almost seems like they try to come up with the most weird or unusual number combinations, just to have something different, or someone was high when they did them and thought it would be funny.

I don't go too deep into it but if it is about the right size and shape and feels good, then that is that.

It's because of fractions of an inch aren't nice as decimals and rounding of those numbers. For instance...

1/16" = 0.0625 - an example is 8.06 DLXSF boards
1/8" = 0.125 - the 8.125 is common to see but can be rounded to just 8.1
3/8" = 0.375 - another common size that is rounded up to 8.38
3/16" = 0.1875 - an example is the 8.18 FA/Hockey board

And no, I don't think an 1/8 or 1/16 of an inch is gonna make a big difference.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 25, 2022, 08:11:07 AM
What trucks are Hockey boards best paired with in your opinion? I noticed there is a mix of their team riding for Ace, Indy, and Thunder (mostly thunder i think)
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Post by: backside_frontside on November 25, 2022, 08:15:46 AM
What trucks are Hockey boards best paired with in your opinion? I noticed there is a mix of their team riding for Ace, Indy, and Thunder (mostly thunder i think)

I'd say the fact that the whole team rides different trucks tells you that the boards pair just fine with any truck brand. Vincent Touz and Caleb Burnett are on Venture too so that covers the big four.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 25, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
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What's up with the weird, seemingly nonsensical board sizes like 8.06", 8.3", 8.4", 8.47", etc? Do people really think there's a noticeable difference between 8" and 8.06" or 8.47" and 8.5"? Or is it just placebo marketing?
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Bought a Baker Deck in 8.475 a while ago thinking i wouldn't notice the difference to 8.5 anyway.
I was absolutely wrong.
Felt much smaller to me.
I could've adjusted to it but didnt want to.
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That one is interesting though.

Normal 8.5 x 32 (and a bit) with 14.5 wb, compared to the shorter 8.475 at about 31.8 with 14.25 wb, the overall width difference being about 1 mm from the two I have here, but yes it does make such a difference in the feel of them.

As said previously, alternating longer to shorter to mix up the sizes a bit, to try to keep everyone happy, for some brands.


For other brands, it almost seems like they try to come up with the most weird or unusual number combinations, just to have something different, or someone was high when they did them and thought it would be funny.

I don't go too deep into it but if it is about the right size and shape and feels good, then that is that.
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It's because of fractions of an inch aren't nice as decimals and rounding of those numbers. For instance...

1/16" = 0.0625 - an example is 8.06 DLXSF boards
1/8" = 0.125 - the 8.125 is common to see but can be rounded to just 8.1
3/8" = 0.375 - another common size that is rounded up to 8.38
3/16" = 0.1875 - an example is the 8.18 FA/Hockey board

And no, I don't think an 1/8 or 1/16 of an inch is gonna make a big difference.


Yeah for sure.

One in particular that I didn't take a pic of was pretty funny.

Something like this (Element on BBS wood)

8.330 x 32.0666
N: 6.99332 T: 6.4949
WB: 14.223322


It was the strangest thing in terms of numbers, like someone thought it would be fun messing with people.


When I measured it, the board came out about 8 3/8" x 32" with 7" nose, 6.5" tail and 14.25" wb.

I like riding the 8 3/8" width boards on 14.5 wb, but that one found a new home - short wb and the shape was just weird too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on November 25, 2022, 08:51:35 PM
How did 8.0 decks fall out of fashion so hard? I'm used to seeing 8.125 decks on clearance, now shops are packed to the rafters with 8.0 decks they can't move.

All the guys I know who used to skate 8.0 have moved to 8.25 and up, only a handful of shorter guys, ladies and skaters from the 2000s still ride them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on November 26, 2022, 11:07:37 AM
How did 8.0 decks fall out of fashion so hard? I'm used to seeing 8.125 decks on clearance, now shops are packed to the rafters with 8.0 decks they can't move.

All the guys I know who used to skate 8.0 have moved to 8.25 and up, only a handful of shorter guys, ladies and skaters from the 2000s still ride them.
If I had to guess it was when 8.25 trucks became widely available? Maybe Ace was first to that but I think Thunder was before Indy. Here's Indy's product intro video with a date on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GpOGlvtgQ
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sharkin on November 26, 2022, 07:18:56 PM
I wanna build this. Anyone have something similar and recommend dimensions, specifically the angle of the bank?
I’d probably want it around a foot tall

(https://www.414skateparks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/SLAPPY-BOX-4-600x388.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PrairieSkater on November 26, 2022, 07:30:06 PM
Bill Withers - Lovely Day has been stuck in my head all day.
Does anybody know what part or edit it’s on?
I’m thinking early 2010.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on November 26, 2022, 08:11:17 PM
Bill Withers - Lovely Day has been stuck in my head all day.
Does anybody know what part or edit it’s on?
I’m thinking early 2010.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZCFJsa5BPo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PrairieSkater on November 26, 2022, 10:06:43 PM
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Bill Withers - Lovely Day has been stuck in my head all day.
Does anybody know what part or edit it’s on?
I’m thinking early 2010.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZCFJsa5BPo
Damn that's right! Thank you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 27, 2022, 05:26:59 AM
I wanna build this. Anyone have something similar and recommend dimensions, specifically the angle of the bank?
I’d probably want it around a foot tall

(https://www.414skateparks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/SLAPPY-BOX-4-600x388.jpg)

I thought of doing this but mocked it up and realized the angled side isn't really that fun. You don't really slappy the same way you'd ride up it. It looks like a 45-50 degree angle (off vertical) and I found that I'd want something around a 70 so I'd have to slam into it, but that doesn't really work if it's 12" tall
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 27, 2022, 06:11:01 AM
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I wanna build this. Anyone have something similar and recommend dimensions, specifically the angle of the bank?
I’d probably want it around a foot tall

(https://www.414skateparks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/SLAPPY-BOX-4-600x388.jpg)
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I thought of doing this but mocked it up and realized the angled side isn't really that fun. You don't really slappy the same way you'd ride up it. It looks like a 45-50 degree angle (off vertical) and I found that I'd want something around a 70 so I'd have to slam into it, but that doesn't really work if it's 12" tall
Plus unless you just want to slap up onto a grind and drop off you need to make a really long ledge for it to be worth it. Something different to achieve the same thing is make a solid little triangle prism that you can butt up against ledges to slappy on. Still prob want it at least 30 inches long if you want to hit it at an angle up or down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 28, 2022, 05:43:26 AM
is the nfg mfg bushing program finished?
bushings felt too mushy but the pivot cups were perfect
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on November 28, 2022, 09:23:05 AM
Can anyone who has worn the Passport Workers  Club Jeans or Diggers Club Pants comment on the sizing and fit compared to Carhartt relaxed fit and Polar ‘93 denim?

With Carhartt pants (relaxed fit twill utility, rugged flex relaxed fit canvas) I go for either 35x32 or 36x32 for some extra room in the waist, and with Polar ‘93 the 34x34 fits well.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on November 28, 2022, 11:15:24 PM
why did my mom think that life wasn't a fashion show? I mean beyond not having the luxury to think of it that way, is there any reason why its morally or otherwise wrong to think of it that way?
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Post by: goodatmeth on November 29, 2022, 01:47:15 AM
why did my mom think that life wasn't a fashion show? I mean beyond not having the luxury to think of it that way, is there any reason why its morally or otherwise wrong to think of it that way?

If you're a model in a fashion show, people care about what you're wearing.
In real life, nobody gives the tiniest fuck about what you're wearing.
So I'm team mom
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2022, 02:38:18 AM
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why did my mom think that life wasn't a fashion show? I mean beyond not having the luxury to think of it that way, is there any reason why its morally or otherwise wrong to think of it that way?
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If you're a model in a fashion show, people care about what you're wearing.
In real life, nobody gives the tiniest fuck about what you're wearing.
So I'm team mom
I think it does matter a bit but more from the other side and it can kind of break your brain a bit. Also growing up without much money etc it brings a lot of resentment to the haves who think they're better than you because they have better stuff than you.
So for me yes I notice when somebody has a bunch of nice stuff but I immediately think they're some dickhead with zero social skills desperately trying to overcompensate.
Mumsy did you a favour you could of thought somehow you were interesting because you had Nike's and a nice jacket.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on November 29, 2022, 06:03:55 AM
Who does the SkateVideoSite? When you search Beach House, Shane O'Neill's "Shane Goes' part isn't listed, he skates to The Hours off Bloom.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 29, 2022, 07:54:01 AM
why did my mom think that life wasn't a fashion show? I mean beyond not having the luxury to think of it that way, is there any reason why its morally or otherwise wrong to think of it that way?

Even though I sort of dress like shit and work from home in my pajamas, I also think people tend to minimize how important clothing and style are. I don't mean the churn of fashion as an industry, but fashioning clothes in a style to represent something about yourself seems to be a nearly innate and fundamental characteristic of being human. This is no surprise, since we are hairless apes with brains which demand we express ourselves abstractly and artistically.

The morally questionable part is when this leads you to consuming vast quantities of poorly made clothing which exists to be worn a handful of times and then disposed of.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 29, 2022, 08:01:36 AM
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I wanna build this. Anyone have something similar and recommend dimensions, specifically the angle of the bank?
I’d probably want it around a foot tall

(https://www.414skateparks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/SLAPPY-BOX-4-600x388.jpg)
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I thought of doing this but mocked it up and realized the angled side isn't really that fun. You don't really slappy the same way you'd ride up it. It looks like a 45-50 degree angle (off vertical) and I found that I'd want something around a 70 so I'd have to slam into it, but that doesn't really work if it's 12" tall
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Plus unless you just want to slap up onto a grind and drop off you need to make a really long ledge for it to be worth it. Something different to achieve the same thing is make a solid little triangle prism that you can butt up against ledges to slappy on. Still prob want it at least 30 inches long if you want to hit it at an angle up or down.

what i would do... make the banked part 45 degree instead. then have a raised curb at the top instead of just a round coping. and that is also the height of the ledge on the other side. i think that would make way more sense to skate it like that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on November 29, 2022, 08:10:13 AM
Who does the SkateVideoSite? When you search Beach House, Shane O'Neill's "Shane Goes' part isn't listed, he skates to The Hours off Bloom.

wanna say it's @Rumpelnoskin iirc?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on November 29, 2022, 01:39:47 PM
Who does the SkateVideoSite? When you search Beach House, Shane O'Neill's "Shane Goes' part isn't listed, he skates to The Hours off Bloom.
Sorry to say SkateVideoSite has been slipping. In the last few years somebody had a part to a certain song which I caught on Skateline but that part or song is not listed on the site
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on November 29, 2022, 02:54:14 PM
Did they recently make Formula Fours more white or were my last set just that yellowed from months of skating?  I feel like the set I just picked up more resemble the standard Spitfires than other F4s I’ve had recently…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on November 29, 2022, 03:01:08 PM
Did they recently make Formula Fours more white or were my last set just that yellowed from months of skating?  I feel like the set I just picked up more resemble the standard Spitfires than other F4s I’ve had recently…

I've definitely had some whiter/less potato wheels lately. Wonder if they switched up the formula a bit or if it just varies batch by batch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 29, 2022, 04:29:31 PM
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Did they recently make Formula Fours more white or were my last set just that yellowed from months of skating?  I feel like the set I just picked up more resemble the standard Spitfires than other F4s I’ve had recently…
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I've definitely had some whiter/less potato wheels lately. Wonder if they switched up the formula a bit or if it just varies batch by batch


I don't know how long they sit somewhere before ending up here, or even how much UV light they are exposed to, but definitely the most recent wheels out here have been way lighter in colour than the previous shipment or other older ones still there from the last drop - can definitely see the difference in the skate shop cabinet between a few sets.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vktrvghn on November 30, 2022, 01:15:10 AM
How are Indy 159s on an 8.5? I switched over from a huffer to an 8.75 eagle but the bigger tail is really throwing off my pop.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 30, 2022, 08:32:03 AM
How are Indy 159s on an 8.5? I switched over from a huffer to an 8.75 eagle but the bigger tail is really throwing off my pop.

thats a pretty serious hotrod but it can work. i personally prefer the opposite though. i went up to 9" for my 159s lol.


what do people think about Speed Cream? I tried it before and seemed like it helped. you want the tiniest drop possible. i used "2 in 1 electric motor oil" on my bearings before and even a drop of that is way too mcuh. the bearings were just swimming. eventually they dried out again and were spinning amazing but it was hard to get a smaller amount applied with this 2 in 1 stuff. is speed cream basically the same thing but it just comes out in a way smaller dosage? or is it more ideal for this type of lubrication?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on November 30, 2022, 08:43:45 AM
How are Indy 159s on an 8.5? I switched over from a huffer to an 8.75 eagle but the bigger tail is really throwing off my pop.

worked just fine for me, skated 159s on 8.5s for like 2 years with no issues
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Post by: eviltgirl on November 30, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
How are Indy 159s on an 8.5? I switched over from a huffer to an 8.75 eagle but the bigger tail is really throwing off my pop.

Been doing that for about a year with conical fulls and id say the edge of my wheels is exactly flush with the edge of my deck.  Works though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on November 30, 2022, 09:16:30 AM
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Did they recently make Formula Fours more white or were my last set just that yellowed from months of skating?  I feel like the set I just picked up more resemble the standard Spitfires than other F4s I’ve had recently…
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I've definitely had some whiter/less potato wheels lately. Wonder if they switched up the formula a bit or if it just varies batch by batch
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I don't know how long they sit somewhere before ending up here, or even how much UV light they are exposed to, but definitely the most recent wheels out here have been way lighter in colour than the previous shipment or other older ones still there from the last drop - can definitely see the difference in the skate shop cabinet between a few sets.

As long as we don’t hit the Bones wheels territory of bleached whiteness I’m good with it haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 30, 2022, 09:53:24 AM
How are Indy 159s on an 8.5? I switched over from a huffer to an 8.75 eagle but the bigger tail is really throwing off my pop.

This is how I did it for the few years when I rode 8.5" decks. Obviously not every 8.5" deck is exactly 8.5", but it always worked great and I had no real trouble with my flip tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on November 30, 2022, 01:07:58 PM
Anyone who's had the krux hollow dl kingpin know if bones bushings work with weird top washer the kingpins come with?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 30, 2022, 07:18:08 PM
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Did they recently make Formula Fours more white or were my last set just that yellowed from months of skating?  I feel like the set I just picked up more resemble the standard Spitfires than other F4s I’ve had recently…
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I've definitely had some whiter/less potato wheels lately. Wonder if they switched up the formula a bit or if it just varies batch by batch
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I don't know how long they sit somewhere before ending up here, or even how much UV light they are exposed to, but definitely the most recent wheels out here have been way lighter in colour than the previous shipment or other older ones still there from the last drop - can definitely see the difference in the skate shop cabinet between a few sets.
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As long as we don’t hit the Bones wheels territory of bleached whiteness I’m good with it haha


Yeah for sure!

Natural urethane, just a light cream colour, not brown and not absolute white, just right.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on November 30, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
I have the f4 classics 101a from a few months back and they're fairly white. I just got some of the same ones in 99a for the colder months during the Black Friday sales and they're noticeably darker. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 01, 2022, 08:48:32 AM
I was wondering if you agree that I should trade one Technique 1200 (1998) for a ps5 or should I wait
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 08:55:49 AM
I was wondering if you agree that I should trade one Technique 1200 (1998) for a ps5 or should I wait
Maybe better asking in the music section or I think there's a ps5 thread in the Vidya games section. Those guys prob know more about the value of ps5 related things this is more a thread about skateboard gear questions
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on December 01, 2022, 01:38:08 PM
I was wondering if you agree that I should trade one Technique 1200 (1998) for a ps5 or should I wait
Looking at eBay prices, a good condition SL1200 Mk 2 with a tonearm and either a lower cost cart or none at all is closing at around $600. I think this might be a decent trade as my PS5 was a little over that amount with tax and shipping. If you're behind on PS4 gen stuff and don't have one I would say it's worth the cop. If you're trying to play cutting edge games, temper your expectations a bit as there have been a lot of delays since no one can get their hands on consoles three years into the platform's life cycle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 01, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Anyone know what Busenitz or Rowan's setups are?
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Post by: ImmanuelCunt on December 01, 2022, 11:36:09 PM
Anyone who's had the krux hollow dl kingpin know if bones bushings work with weird top washer the kingpins come with?

Yes, works. Rode them with bones hards on some Indy 149 Standards for which I got a new set of the inverted plates because the old ones where done. That was the only setup I could get tight enough with the krux pin and the dlk washers on the mindy baseplate. The washers have this weird single contact point and everything else just wobbled. Rode them also in thunder 148 hollow lights with the mediums.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 02, 2022, 04:04:30 AM
Anyone know what Busenitz or Rowan's setups are?


Are they both a little on the secretive side, or just not responding to questions?  I see so many people asking Dennis and never any replies.

When he was out on tour with Real his setup was 8.25 deck, 147 Thunders on Spitfire Classics in 52mm with super noisy crusty bearings, but that was a long time ago now.

I think looking at Instagram pics and even from some comments he is on the DLX 8.38 sized board, 148 or 149 Team Thunders, still on 52mm Classics and crusty raw bearings.  The trucks look like they sit inside the deck on most recent clips, so maybe 148s.


Never really looked hard at Rowan's setup, but looks like it is similar sized setup too, maybe an 8.25 or the same dimensions on the 8.38 Baker deck, Indy standard 144 or 149s, Spitfire whatevers (changes a bit) latest looking like Conical Full maybe 53mm.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 02, 2022, 08:31:58 AM
I've decided against the trade.

The 1200 will last forever only gaining value.

Ps5 is temporary
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on December 02, 2022, 08:49:40 AM
I've decided against the trade.

The 1200 will last forever only gaining value.

Ps5 is temporary

Good call. I'm gonna grab one of them sega astro city mini's to kill time with this winter. PS5 is too expensive.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 02, 2022, 11:34:55 AM
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Anyone know what Busenitz or Rowan's setups are?
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Are they both a little on the secretive side, or just not responding to questions?  I see so many people asking Dennis and never any replies.

When he was out on tour with Real his setup was 8.25 deck, 147 Thunders on Spitfire Classics in 52mm with super noisy crusty bearings, but that was a long time ago now.

I think looking at Instagram pics and even from some comments he is on the DLX 8.38 sized board, 148 or 149 Team Thunders, still on 52mm Classics and crusty raw bearings.  The trucks look like they sit inside the deck on most recent clips, so maybe 148s.


Never really looked hard at Rowan's setup, but looks like it is similar sized setup too, maybe an 8.25 or the same dimensions on the 8.38 Baker deck, Indy standard 144 or 149s, Spitfire whatevers (changes a bit) latest looking like Conical Full maybe 53mm.

Thanks, mostly just curious. They're two skaters that I always feel skate really fast and comfortable. Not that their setups will make me skate the same, but just weird nerdy curiosity.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on December 02, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
Not sure where to put this but was just about to grip a new frog and noticed it was a tad heavy, looked closely and there is two heat transfers - they put the new graphic over the last drops graphic - how old is this deck and how shitty will it skate? Lol

Certainly one solution to this overstock problem.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on December 02, 2022, 03:15:32 PM
Not sure where to put this but was just about to grip a new frog and noticed it was a tad heavy, looked closely and there is two heat transfers - they put the new graphic over the last drops graphic - how old is this deck and how shitty will it skate? Lol

Certainly one solution to this overstock problem.

Wow that’s nuts please report back with findings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TurdyBird on December 02, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
Anyone try slappy’s trucks yet? Looks like a solid design but maybe they grind down quick?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on December 02, 2022, 06:12:06 PM
Anyone try slappy’s trucks yet? Looks like a solid design but maybe they grind down quick?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124231.120
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 02, 2022, 07:07:31 PM
Not sure where to put this but was just about to grip a new frog and noticed it was a tad heavy, looked closely and there is two heat transfers - they put the new graphic over the last drops graphic - how old is this deck and how shitty will it skate? Lol

Certainly one solution to this overstock problem.


What's on top, re warning sticker or anything else?

Usually graphics done at BBS are finished, shrink wrapped and product sent out to the distro, but smaller brands often get blanks to use and do whatever they want to them, or boards from Generator (with Generator stickers) as per shop boards or smaller brands that can't go directly through BBS for wood.

Not a worry either way, more just curious.

I know of someone who used to put other graphics straight over old ones in a certain situation at one distro, but I think given you can usually see the old graphic underneath it is not so common.  The graphic of a smaller local brand was put on an AH board for one rider who was very picky with his setups and didn't like the concave and wood that came on the smaller brand, so it was easy enough to do and no one knew any different.  Funny thinking about that.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 02, 2022, 07:54:34 PM
saw some insta story screenshots of someone who skated theirs (recent frog board that is) and scraped away to the older graphic underneath, dunno how to find that again, but i want to say it was this jesse alba graphic on the second slide
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVV1iO0PteF/

stealth edit: so that was posted 58 weeks ago, so it's a year old deck -possibly-
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on December 03, 2022, 09:08:48 AM
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Not sure where to put this but was just about to grip a new frog and noticed it was a tad heavy, looked closely and there is two heat transfers - they put the new graphic over the last drops graphic - how old is this deck and how shitty will it skate? Lol

Certainly one solution to this overstock problem.
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What's on top, re warning sticker or anything else?

Usually graphics done at BBS are finished, shrink wrapped and product sent out to the distro, but smaller brands often get blanks to use and do whatever they want to them, or boards from Generator (with Generator stickers) as per shop boards or smaller brands that can't go directly through BBS for wood.

Not a worry either way, more just curious.

I know of someone who used to put other graphics straight over old ones in a certain situation at one distro, but I think given you can usually see the old graphic underneath it is not so common.  The graphic of a smaller local brand was put on an AH board for one rider who was very picky with his setups and didn't like the concave and wood that came on the smaller brand, so it was easy enough to do and no one knew any different.  Funny thinking about that.


 Yeah it has the made in mexico warning sticker. This deck was from my local - purchased a couple months ago - the new pat g trash eater. I assume frog does heat transfers themselves because they mostly use the generic bbs shapes. It was most noticeable on the top graphic -if you put the board up to the light you can see the old graphic under, its actually last runs chris milic board which I already skated lol - it has a carrot between two faces.

Anyway its my favorite shape - so Ill just skate it and see how it goes - although with it in the back of my mind that its old stock I'll probably want to change it out for some perceived shortcoming (never my skating haha).

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on December 03, 2022, 10:52:55 AM
Trying to hunt down a specific graphic , Its a kid sitting in front of a huge TV. I think its Blind?
Is there a Blind Graphic archive anywhere online? Im having no luck...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 03, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
Trying to hunt down a specific graphic , Its a kid sitting in front of a huge TV. I think its Blind?
Is there a Blind Graphic archive anywhere online? Im having no luck...

i'm sure someone will come in fast with an answer to the graphic, but your best bet would be http://www.artofskateboarding.com/ for an archive. not totally comprehensive but worth a shot. that and you can try archive.org and use the waybackmachine to look at old versions of a brand's site and hopefully the images are archived
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 03, 2022, 04:42:07 PM


 Yeah it has the made in mexico warning sticker. This deck was from my local - purchased a couple months ago - the new pat g trash eater. I assume frog does heat transfers themselves because they mostly use the generic bbs shapes. It was most noticeable on the top graphic -if you put the board up to the light you can see the old graphic under, its actually last runs chris milic board which I already skated lol - it has a carrot between two faces.

Anyway its my favorite shape - so Ill just skate it and see how it goes - although with it in the back of my mind that its old stock I'll probably want to change it out for some perceived shortcoming (never my skating haha).


For what it's worth, boards stored well and kept in decent conditions will still be good for a long time, especially from good wood stock like BBS.

I have some boards 10+ years old and still skate fine, crispy, not too dried out and brittle and definitely not old and soggy, but everything I have is kept in shrink, stored in cardboard boxes and locked away until needed.

Sometimes things got away from me and I had bought way too many of something, but I have never had issues with any of them, unlike other places that had removed shrink and boards displayed on the wall and then dry out too much and become unreliable to skate.  Those ones are best left on a wall or given to a beginner, in my view anyway.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on December 05, 2022, 04:13:24 PM
I've only ever ridden popsicle decks with 54mm and smaller wheels my entire life and decided I want to try a shaped deck with larger wheels. Which shape would you recommend for someone's first shaped board? I just want something fun that can cruise, still do flip tricks, and some small-medium transition. My main setup is 8.25 on ventures
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 05, 2022, 05:17:28 PM
I've only ever ridden popsicle decks with 54mm and smaller wheels my entire life and decided I want to try a shaped deck with larger wheels. Which shape would you recommend for someone's first shaped board? I just want something fun that can cruise, still do flip tricks, and some small-medium transition. My main setup is 8.25 on ventures

Maybe Huffer (Anti Hero), Loveseat or Couch ( Girl), Spade ( Passport) depends on how big you want to go. These shapes are great go-to’s for semi technical skating from a shaped board that should be fairly easy to find.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 05, 2022, 07:17:35 PM
I've only ever ridden popsicle decks with 54mm and smaller wheels my entire life and decided I want to try a shaped deck with larger wheels. Which shape would you recommend for someone's first shaped board? I just want something fun that can cruise, still do flip tricks, and some small-medium transition. My main setup is 8.25 on ventures

Polar makes some fun shapes, the surf Jr and P9 come to mind, though I like Polar decks best on Indy and Ace. The 9.0 football Quasi makes is a fun one too. I skated a couple on venture 5.8s and they were super fun.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on December 06, 2022, 01:53:01 PM
I've only ever ridden popsicle decks with 54mm and smaller wheels my entire life and decided I want to try a shaped deck with larger wheels. Which shape would you recommend for someone's first shaped board? I just want something fun that can cruise, still do flip tricks, and some small-medium transition. My main setup is 8.25 on ventures

Huffer is definitely the GOAT, but if you still want something that can flip you could try the Crail Couch or Loveseat decks.

Otherwise, Polar definitely has some fun shapes but in my experience they're less versatile than the Huffer or Phawt.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 07, 2022, 06:57:48 AM
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Anyone know what Busenitz or Rowan's setups are?
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Are they both a little on the secretive side, or just not responding to questions?  I see so many people asking Dennis and never any replies.

When he was out on tour with Real his setup was 8.25 deck, 147 Thunders on Spitfire Classics in 52mm with super noisy crusty bearings, but that was a long time ago now.

I think looking at Instagram pics and even from some comments he is on the DLX 8.38 sized board, 148 or 149 Team Thunders, still on 52mm Classics and crusty raw bearings.  The trucks look like they sit inside the deck on most recent clips, so maybe 148s.


Never really looked hard at Rowan's setup, but looks like it is similar sized setup too, maybe an 8.25 or the same dimensions on the 8.38 Baker deck, Indy standard 144 or 149s, Spitfire whatevers (changes a bit) latest looking like Conical Full maybe 53mm.
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Thanks, mostly just curious. They're two skaters that I always feel skate really fast and comfortable. Not that their setups will make me skate the same, but just weird nerdy curiosity.


Not a big deal, but from looking at and commenting in the Wheel thread about the three plain and one coloured wheel, the post from Jake Hayes (third frame) would be awesome from more people describing their setup info.  Still might not answer some questions, but it goes a long way to helping with product info when I think he would have been getting a lot of questions asking what was on his setup.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CK2gNh7Jjmg/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on December 09, 2022, 11:41:02 AM
How do you guys lace up your Maranas or other shoes with hidden lace loops?

I’ve never questioned how I lace my shoes, I just roll with them like the manufacturer set them up. Just thought about this now, because my new shoes didn’t come fully laced.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on December 09, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
This might have been asked before..

But why do boards seem to chip less these days?

Always seemed like my decks in the late 90s/00s always had a chip from running into a wall, rail or the ground. These days not so much. Not sure if its because i dont skate gaps anymore, or if manufacturing is just better these days. Maybe the tapered shapes back then chipped easier than the rounded/blunted ones today?

Curious to hear any theories, or if im just imagining shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on December 09, 2022, 12:54:03 PM
How do you guys lace up your Maranas or other shoes with hidden lace loops?

I’ve never questioned how I lace my shoes, I just roll with them like the manufacturer set them up. Just thought about this now, because my new shoes didn’t come fully laced.

You do you
But go for hidden loops if you rip laces fast / often
You can just hide them near the toebox / where you rip them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on December 09, 2022, 01:35:59 PM
How do you guys lace up your Maranas or other shoes with hidden lace loops?

I’ve never questioned how I lace my shoes, I just roll with them like the manufacturer set them up. Just thought about this now, because my new shoes didn’t come fully laced.

as someone who skated only maranas for the past 2 years. i had no idea this even existed untill you pointed this out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on December 09, 2022, 01:58:14 PM
This might have been asked before..

But why do boards seem to chip less these days?

Always seemed like my decks in the late 90s/00s always had a chip from running into a wall, rail or the ground. These days not so much. Not sure if its because i dont skate gaps anymore, or if manufacturing is just better these days. Maybe the tapered shapes back then chipped easier than the rounded/blunted ones today?

Curious to hear any theories, or if im just imagining shit.

Pretty sure there were some major advances in wood treatment and especially glue technology
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on December 09, 2022, 02:57:10 PM
I always chipped Deathwish boards real quick.  Real bloards less so.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on December 09, 2022, 02:58:45 PM
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How do you guys lace up your Maranas or other shoes with hidden lace loops?

I�ve never questioned how I lace my shoes, I just roll with them like the manufacturer set them up. Just thought about this now, because my new shoes didn�t come fully laced.
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You do you
But go for hidden loops if you rip laces fast / often
You can just hide them near the toebox / where you rip them

Good idea, maybe try and skate them as is, and if I rip them, I�ll tuck the first couple loops on my front foot shoe. It�s a very cool feature, I think.


as someone who skated only maranas for the past 2 years. i had no idea this even existed untill you pointed this out.

Haha, that�s awesome! I think I read about it somewhere. I like all the tech shit and thought they put in to the Marana. And so far they seem perfect. Will probably walk around a day in each pair at work before skating them.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on December 10, 2022, 07:06:22 AM
Seeing this graphic of Jake Hayes' Deathwish board made me wonder how many deck graphics are actually done via AI tools? This one certainly was created like that. 

Also do you care? Is it important for brand identity or do you and kids give a shit anyway?
I am personally very picky about dims (mainly wb) and wood (mainly bbs) and would also accept a board with subpar graphics (looking at you Real). But if there is proper artwork I am certainly more stoked about it.


Not a big deal, but from looking at and commenting in the Wheel thread about the three plain and one coloured wheel, the post from Jake Hayes (third frame) would be awesome from more people describing their setup info.  Still might not answer some questions, but it goes a long way to helping with product info when I think he would have been getting a lot of questions asking what was on his setup.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CK2gNh7Jjmg/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on December 10, 2022, 07:36:44 AM
Seeing this graphic of Jake Hayes' Deathwish board made me wonder how many deck graphics are actually done via AI tools? This one certainly was created like that. 

Also do you care? Is it important for brand identity or do you and kids give a shit anyway?
I am personally very picky about dims (mainly wb) and wood (mainly bbs) and would also accept a board with subpar graphics (looking at you Real). But if there is proper artwork I am certainly more stoked about it.

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Not a big deal, but from looking at and commenting in the Wheel thread about the three plain and one coloured wheel, the post from Jake Hayes (third frame) would be awesome from more people describing their setup info.  Still might not answer some questions, but it goes a long way to helping with product info when I think he would have been getting a lot of questions asking what was on his setup.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CK2gNh7Jjmg/
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It says in the caption that it's a painting by Zachary Baldus. What makes you think it's created by AI?

I really like that graphic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on December 10, 2022, 07:44:40 AM
Seeing this graphic of Jake Hayes' Deathwish board made me wonder how many deck graphics are actually done via AI tools? This one certainly was created like that. 

Also do you care? Is it important for brand identity or do you and kids give a shit anyway?
I am personally very picky about dims (mainly wb) and wood (mainly bbs) and would also accept a board with subpar graphics (looking at you Real). But if there is proper artwork I am certainly more stoked about it.

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Not a big deal, but from looking at and commenting in the Wheel thread about the three plain and one coloured wheel, the post from Jake Hayes (third frame) would be awesome from more people describing their setup info.  Still might not answer some questions, but it goes a long way to helping with product info when I think he would have been getting a lot of questions asking what was on his setup.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CK2gNh7Jjmg/
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Does anything specifically imply that this deck was made by AI, or are you just having a hard time believing that a human could imagine and then paint something a little weird?  The artist is tagged in the post and he has a bunch of funky art like this
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on December 10, 2022, 07:57:37 AM
Ha, well I didnt see that artist tag. My bad, didnt want to throw shade.

How I got to this assumption? I was playing around with such a tool recently and the results often had a similar look to it. I also asked a friend of mine who is more into graphic design and he said it looks like 100% made like that. Also he created the attached images using a few keywords and they do look similar. Anyway, as I said, I didnt want to discredit real artists work.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on December 10, 2022, 12:14:47 PM
Ha, well I didnt see that artist tag. My bad, didnt want to throw shade.

How I got to this assumption? I was playing around with such a tool recently and the results often had a similar look to it. I also asked a friend of mine who is more into graphic design and he said it looks like 100% made like that. Also he created the attached images using a few keywords and they do look similar. Anyway, as I said, I didnt want to discredit real artists work.

Sorry, I went in harder on you than I should have
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 10, 2022, 07:35:17 PM
That Hayes graphic is anything but weird. Nature setting with a kangaroo and hot air balloons doesn't really scream "weird" to anyone does it?

Pretty tame, tasteful, and homage to his roots

Also I do not see the AI generated viewpoint at all. Looks like an authentic piece to me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on December 10, 2022, 09:22:44 PM
That Hayes graphic is anything but weird. Nature setting with a kangaroo and hot air balloons doesn't really scream "weird" to anyone does it?

Pretty tame, tasteful, and homage to his roots

Also I do not see the AI generated viewpoint at all. Looks like an authentic piece to me
It's what we see when we look out the window. People forge hot air balloon is Australia's main mode of travel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on December 11, 2022, 12:04:56 AM
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Ha, well I didnt see that artist tag. My bad, didnt want to throw shade.

How I got to this assumption? I was playing around with such a tool recently and the results often had a similar look to it. I also asked a friend of mine who is more into graphic design and he said it looks like 100% made like that. Also he created the attached images using a few keywords and they do look similar. Anyway, as I said, I didnt want to discredit real artists work.
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Sorry, I went in harder on you than I should have

All good thanks, it was me with a controversial take in the end it seems.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 11, 2022, 02:55:56 AM
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That Hayes graphic is anything but weird. Nature setting with a kangaroo and hot air balloons doesn't really scream "weird" to anyone does it?

Pretty tame, tasteful, and homage to his roots

Also I do not see the AI generated viewpoint at all. Looks like an authentic piece to me
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It's what we see when we look out the window. People forget hot air balloon is Australia's main mode of travel


Ha yeah for sure!

Gotta say though, out here in the rural / country area, we do have lots of kangaroos and quite a few hot air balloons but I can't say I have seen both at the same time.

Now roos in hot air balloons would be another thing entirely!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on December 11, 2022, 12:55:16 PM
Anyone else had bad luck with zero decks from 2020/covid era? This summer I've bought a Zero Cole MMXX 8.25 deck and it got soggy within a few sessions. Retired it but gave it another chance today. I like the shape but this thing barely leaves ground...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on December 12, 2022, 01:25:28 AM
This might have been asked before..

But why do boards seem to chip less these days?

Always seemed like my decks in the late 90s/00s always had a chip from running into a wall, rail or the ground. These days not so much. Not sure if its because i dont skate gaps anymore, or if manufacturing is just better these days. Maybe the tapered shapes back then chipped easier than the rounded/blunted ones today?

Curious to hear any theories, or if im just imagining shit.

evolution of nano tubes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on December 12, 2022, 05:10:09 AM
Anyone else had bad luck with zero decks from 2020/covid era? This summer I've bought a Zero Cole MMXX 8.25 deck and it got soggy within a few sessions. Retired it but gave it another chance today. I like the shape but this thing barely leaves ground...

Did it come from clutch?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on December 12, 2022, 06:37:36 AM
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Anyone else had bad luck with zero decks from 2020/covid era? This summer I've bought a Zero Cole MMXX 8.25 deck and it got soggy within a few sessions. Retired it but gave it another chance today. I like the shape but this thing barely leaves ground...
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Did it come from clutch?
I don't know. Any ideas how to find out?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 12, 2022, 06:47:13 AM
If they are 2020 decks they are probably from China, early COVID days they were from B-tier woodshops, same with Toy Machine and Foundation decks. Waterlogged and chipped so easily.

Only later in 2020 and 2021 they managed to get Dwindle to do their decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 12, 2022, 09:03:49 AM
I'm crazy confused.

I just paid taxes on my car in May. Why do I gotta pay again? Is it yearly I gotta pay? It hasn't even been a year either.

Second question...

If it is yearly am I going to see two bills from two towns? I registered my car to Salem on the day I paid in May.

This is fucked up. I called they said just pay it.

I don't even want my car.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on December 12, 2022, 11:44:50 PM
how much does the quasi proto 8.5 taper towards the back?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on December 13, 2022, 06:42:57 AM
I'm crazy confused.

I just paid taxes on my car in May. Why do I gotta pay again? Is it yearly I gotta pay? It hasn't even been a year either.

Second question...

If it is yearly am I going to see two bills from two towns? I registered my car to Salem on the day I paid in May.

This is fucked up. I called they said just pay it.

I don't even want my car.

Where I live you pay for “tags” which is just a sticker you put on your plate in the corner. But only tax one time.  Since you said 2 towns involved could one town not got the memo you paid tax on your car already?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on December 13, 2022, 11:22:22 AM
how much does the quasi proto 8.5 taper towards the back?
I got 8.25 over the back and front bolts with 8.38 in the middle. Another PS Stix 8.5 that presumably would be the same shape was still 8.25 over the bolts but 8.5ish in the middle and up top. The shapes are pretty hard to tell apart by looking at them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on December 13, 2022, 11:35:03 AM
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how much does the quasi proto 8.5 taper towards the back?
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I got 8.25 over the back and front bolts with 8.38 in the middle. Another PS Stix 8.5 that presumably would be the same shape was still 8.25 over the bolts but 8.5ish in the middle and up top. The shapes are pretty hard to tell apart by looking at them.
Hey thanks for this! good to know for the future as i have my eyes set on a proto right now but have been riding 8.38 for a bit. :-)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: skatebruh on December 13, 2022, 12:00:28 PM
This might have been asked before..

But why do boards seem to chip less these days?

Always seemed like my decks in the late 90s/00s always had a chip from running into a wall, rail or the ground. These days not so much. Not sure if its because i dont skate gaps anymore, or if manufacturing is just better these days. Maybe the tapered shapes back then chipped easier than the rounded/blunted ones today?

Curious to hear any theories, or if im just imagining shit.
When I was a kid, I used to destroy boards skating the rough asphalt in front of my house. Now I'm an adult who drives to the skatepark to skate and my boards last longer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: texasplant on December 13, 2022, 08:07:17 PM
I took a break for a bit and let all my gear end up in a pile for months. In that process I forgot which board had my one set of Six Ball Swiss on it. I’m over my madness and am just setting one board up…

How do I know which set of these bearings are Swiss? I know I’ve had normal 6 balls in the past so I don’t know if there’s any way to differentiate once the shields are off?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 13, 2022, 09:15:53 PM
My Swiss 6 had blue shields
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: texasplant on December 13, 2022, 09:59:50 PM
My Swiss 6 had blue shields

No shields on these regrettably. I also can’t seem to find another set of 6 balls around so I can’t even make a comparison. The ones I do have on hand have a nice little recess where the shield would have been and am maybe thinking this is a clue that they’re Swiss.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on December 13, 2022, 10:16:37 PM
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My Swiss 6 had blue shields
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No shields on these regrettably. I also can’t seem to find another set of 6 balls around so I can’t even make a comparison. The ones I do have on hand have a nice little recess where the shield would have been and am maybe thinking this is a clue that they’re Swiss.

maybe this will solve your problem, looks like swiss 6 have a bronze looking retainer. i think most other companies use black so just look for the bronze

 https://bonesbearings.com/bones-bearings-6-ball-replacement-retainer-4pk
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Shifty Flip on December 14, 2022, 11:59:36 AM
My 6 yr old son ask the sudden is asking for a skateboard for Christmas.  Suggestions for complete starter boards?  I might even give some money to element if that’s the answer.  Don’t really want to give him my stack of 8.5 BBS with Aces and Conical fulls at 37 pounds.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rumpelnoskin on December 14, 2022, 12:20:27 PM
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Who does the SkateVideoSite? When you search Beach House, Shane O'Neill's "Shane Goes' part isn't listed, he skates to The Hours off Bloom.
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wanna say it's @Rumpelnoskin iirc?

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Who does the SkateVideoSite? When you search Beach House, Shane O'Neill's "Shane Goes' part isn't listed, he skates to The Hours off Bloom.
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Sorry to say SkateVideoSite has been slipping. In the last few years somebody had a part to a certain song which I caught on Skateline but that part or song is not listed on the site

Yep I'm currently maintaining it.

We always welcome new contributors if you want to help add data to the site. It's hard to keep up with the constant deluge of videos that come out, especially with my limited time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on December 14, 2022, 12:46:23 PM
My 6 yr old son ask the sudden is asking for a skateboard for Christmas.  Suggestions for complete starter boards?  I might even give some money to element if that’s the answer.  Don’t really want to give him my stack of 8.5 BBS with Aces and Conical fulls at 37 pounds.

Santa Cruz does mini completes. They are birch but I'd imagine they'd be plenty solid for someone who is 37 pounds

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/7-25in-x-27-00in-classic-dot-super-micro-santa-cruz-skateboard-complete?variant=40006132203677
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 14, 2022, 12:50:36 PM
Minilogo….they have ones with softer wheels like 90a and that worked well for my nephew….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 14, 2022, 05:00:01 PM
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My Swiss 6 had blue shields
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No shields on these regrettably. I also can’t seem to find another set of 6 balls around so I can’t even make a comparison. The ones I do have on hand have a nice little recess where the shield would have been and am maybe thinking this is a clue that they’re Swiss.
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maybe this will solve your problem, looks like swiss 6 have a bronze looking retainer. i think most other companies use black so just look for the bronze

 https://bonesbearings.com/bones-bearings-6-ball-replacement-retainer-4pk


That would be awesome if we could get those here in AU again.

We used to have all that stuff but it was very limited, shields and replacement parts like that.


Bones seem to have clear backs on all the Reds, Super reds, and lower range, then black or very dark backs on Swiss and similar, looking at these ones I have.


Looking up pics some shops put up close ups of every bearing front and back, which is nice to see.

Eg:


https://luckyskates.com.au/products/bones-super-swiss-6-bearings-16


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1902/1655/products/bones_swiss_6_ball_bearings_1512x.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 14, 2022, 06:17:09 PM
Minilogo….they have ones with softer wheels like 90a and that worked well for my nephew….

+1 for ML, softer wheels and very turny trucks are good for groms without the weight and strength.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 14, 2022, 06:19:27 PM
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I'm crazy confused.

I just paid taxes on my car in May. Why do I gotta pay again? Is it yearly I gotta pay? It hasn't even been a year either.

Second question...

If it is yearly am I going to see two bills from two towns? I registered my car to Salem on the day I paid in May.

This is fucked up. I called they said just pay it.

I don't even want my car.
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Where I live you pay for “tags” which is just a sticker you put on your plate in the corner. But only tax one time.  Since you said 2 towns involved could one town not got the memo you paid tax on your car already?

I'm fixing it tomorrow. Something is a miss for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on December 15, 2022, 04:28:08 AM
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My 6 yr old son ask the sudden is asking for a skateboard for Christmas.  Suggestions for complete starter boards?  I might even give some money to element if that’s the answer.  Don’t really want to give him my stack of 8.5 BBS with Aces and Conical fulls at 37 pounds.
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Santa Cruz does mini completes. They are birch but I'd imagine they'd be plenty solid for someone who is 37 pounds

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/7-25in-x-27-00in-classic-dot-super-micro-santa-cruz-skateboard-complete?variant=40006132203677

Santa Cruz completes might be the worst of the completes on the market from legit brands at the moment (wood and trucks just feel wrong). Girl, Chocolate and DGK completes suck too.
I would recommend stuff from Dwindle / Globe. Same budget but way better stuff all around.
They usually have soft wheels on the smaller ones (from 7.0" to 7.5")
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 15, 2022, 11:08:21 AM
Does the team trucks edition and such performance better than hollows and lights? I think every pure street pro skater use such “heavy” trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 15, 2022, 11:40:49 AM
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My 6 yr old son ask the sudden is asking for a skateboard for Christmas.  Suggestions for complete starter boards?  I might even give some money to element if that’s the answer.  Don’t really want to give him my stack of 8.5 BBS with Aces and Conical fulls at 37 pounds.
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Santa Cruz does mini completes. They are birch but I'd imagine they'd be plenty solid for someone who is 37 pounds

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/7-25in-x-27-00in-classic-dot-super-micro-santa-cruz-skateboard-complete?variant=40006132203677
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Santa Cruz completes might be the worst of the completes on the market from legit brands at the moment (wood and trucks just feel wrong). Girl, Chocolate and DGK completes suck too.
I would recommend stuff from Dwindle / Globe. Same budget but way better stuff all around.
They usually have soft wheels on the smaller ones (from 7.0" to 7.5")

As a shop employee I second the recommendation to look at Dwindle: Almost/Blind/Enjoi/Globe. The Tensor trucks feel nice and stable and you can always yield a little more turn by adding a Bones soft bushing ( like I did for my daughter). The wheels are slightly softer than standard so they are a bit smoother but can still slide a little for learning kick turns on transitions. The price is really good too. The Powell and Minilogo completes are my second recommendation but they are a bit heavier than the Dwindle completes which may or may not be a setback when it’s time to get it off the ground, (not just ollies, but kickturns, tic-tacs, and generally just carrying it around). Hope this is helpful and definitely let us know what you got!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on December 15, 2022, 11:48:42 AM
anyone have experience with these new penny 2's?

eS has been blowing it for a while I know, but im interested in these.

Compare to jordan 1s, dunks, and 1010s if possible since those are the cups i have the most current frame of reference for.

Is is the same sole as the og accels? because those look too chunky for me. but the accel slims were way too slim.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 15, 2022, 12:35:22 PM
Wanted to confirm that I just got a Frog Nick Michel 8.38 and they heat transferred over an old graphic. The heat transfer quality is abysmal and it is flaking off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: marty mcfly on December 15, 2022, 01:34:51 PM
Can someone from the states explain the bussup thing to a European?
Just discovered this insta page and I think it’s pretty funny…is it just another word for sketchy?
Never heard that before

https://instagram.com/bussupbussup?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swellbowed on December 15, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
Can someone from the states explain the bussup thing to a European?
Just discovered this insta page and I think it’s pretty funny…is it just another word for sketchy?
Never heard that before

https://instagram.com/bussupbussup?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
This basically sums it up ↓
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bussup

"The art of trying to stay on your board after a sketchy trick landing due to irregular surfaces, trick miscalculation, lack of balance, and more.
That landing was bussup."
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: marty mcfly on December 15, 2022, 01:53:56 PM
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Can someone from the states explain the bussup thing to a European?
Just discovered this insta page and I think it’s pretty funny…is it just another word for sketchy?
Never heard that before

https://instagram.com/bussupbussup?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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This basically sums it up ↓
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bussup

"The art of trying to stay on your board after a sketchy trick landing due to irregular surfaces, trick miscalculation, lack of balance, and more.
That landing was bussup."

Thanks dude!i skate since 1999 (also watched 411 since 1999) and never heard this term related to skateboarding.that page isn’t bad tho  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on December 15, 2022, 02:11:54 PM
Hey there.
Whats the difference between the Vans Kyle Walker and the older Vans Kyle Walker Pro shoe ?
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-pro-schuh-black-white_p110043 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-pro-schuh-black-white_p110043)
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-schuh-black-white_p145312 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-schuh-black-white_p145312)
I skate the newer ones atm and besides the wierd stiching in the heel that i fixed with blister plaster.. i really like how they skate.
Now i see the "Pro" ones are on sale. Ist there a big difference ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on December 15, 2022, 02:15:08 PM
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Can someone from the states explain the bussup thing to a European?
Just discovered this insta page and I think it’s pretty funny…is it just another word for sketchy?
Never heard that before

https://instagram.com/bussupbussup?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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This basically sums it up ↓
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bussup

"The art of trying to stay on your board after a sketchy trick landing due to irregular surfaces, trick miscalculation, lack of balance, and more.
That landing was bussup."
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Thanks dude!i skate since 1999 (also watched 411 since 1999) and never heard this term related to skateboarding.that page isn’t bad tho  ;D
oh!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on December 15, 2022, 02:16:43 PM
Do Big Boy jeans actually come in XXL? The Polar site’s size chart only goes to XL, but a few other sites are selling XXL. I’ve never seen bigger than XL.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on December 15, 2022, 02:29:11 PM
Hey there.
Whats the difference between the Vans Kyle Walker and the older Vans Kyle Walker Pro shoe ?
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-pro-schuh-black-white_p110043 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-pro-schuh-black-white_p110043)
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-schuh-black-white_p145312 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/vans-kyle-walker-schuh-black-white_p145312)
I skate the newer ones atm and besides the wierd stiching in the heel that i fixed with blister plaster.. i really like how they skate.
Now i see the "Pro" ones are on sale. Ist there a big difference ?
Those are the same shoe. Only differences are usually materials in low wear areas. Sometimes they have more or less suede on the side walls. The pair with the solid white midsole are from 2020 and the pair with the black stripe on the midsole are from 2021 but they are both suede up front and on the heel with canvas around the ankle area.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 15, 2022, 02:37:16 PM
Does the team trucks edition and such performance better than hollows and lights? I think every pure street pro skater use such “heavy” trucks

Thoughs?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum on December 15, 2022, 03:18:13 PM
I've never tried hollows, cast or any fancy trucks but my dear old mum has sent me some 151 team hollows for Crimbo, so hopefully I can report back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on December 15, 2022, 03:31:22 PM
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Does the team trucks edition and such performance better than hollows and lights? I think every pure street pro skater use such “heavy” trucks
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Thoughs?

I assume you're talking about Thunder? The "Team" basically just means they have regular cast baseplates. They are a bit heavier, but the reason many people prefer them is more about feel and that they're a couple mm higher. Thunders are low by default, and notorious for wheelbite, so that explains it. They are also not a heavy truck, so I don't see any reason to ride the forged models unless you really want the lowest possible setup, and absolutely love getting pitched.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 15, 2022, 11:59:30 PM
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Does the team trucks edition and such performance better than hollows and lights? I think every pure street pro skater use such “heavy” trucks
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Thoughs?
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I assume you're talking about Thunder? The "Team" basically just means they have regular cast baseplates. They are a bit heavier, but the reason many people prefer them is more about feel and that they're a couple mm higher. Thunders are low by default, and notorious for wheelbite, so that explains it. They are also not a heavy truck, so I don't see any reason to ride the forged models unless you really want the lowest possible setup, and absolutely love getting pitched.

I mean venture and thunder… but really in general.. meny pure street pro skaters like jeff carlyle… nick matthews… Athans.. and a very long list… almost everybody i mean they dont use hollow or light kingpin… Guess work better fro crusty and grind on crap edges or brings more stability?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 16, 2022, 02:41:24 AM
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Most of the team riders just ride whatever is in the box, which is mostly just the standard / team / basic versions of the trucks more than anything else.  I know some request specific things, the more hollow / light / forged versions being for those guys, but I think it could be a fairly even mix all up.

Seems it is about the same for most team riders for Thunder, Indy, Venture, etc.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on December 16, 2022, 03:17:55 AM
Yeah. Not sure why it is that most ride the standard ones. The only ones I can think of riding something else is Hewitt, Servold & Gardner all riding titanium Independents. Surely there are many riding all sorts of hollows all the time but I just haven’t registered. Still, overwhelming majority seems to be on standards and many don’t even know what sizes they’re skating.  :D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on December 16, 2022, 08:38:33 AM
what are some old truck companies that no longer exist?

I remember these vividly:

Orion
Kreper
Phantom
Fury
Tracker
Destructo
Grind King

I seem to remember Titan and Standard? or am I making thoes up? i cant seem to find anything about them online

Destructo's were really popular in my area. I remember everyone hyping up the insane grind clearance on them, but no one was axeling trucks back then in my area lol. so not sure why this was such a selling point for us. I remember I broke the kingpin on them.

Grind Kings were seen as wack as fuck. I had a pair given to me for free and I bent the axle.

Tracker-Hawk were my first trucks and they werent bad I guess but i broke the kingpin on them.

Orion seemed like good trucks to me, I remember them often set up with SEEK boards at the time... there was a squad of older guys who were super hyped on that combination for some reason at my local hockey arena skatepark. NEver tried them. for all i know they are shit. would love to hear about osmeone who rode them.

Fury were my favorite trucks back then. I did have a pair of Indy's and I did like them, I do recall specifically them being increidbly heavy and the axle slipped really badly, but the kingpin lasted on those, and on Fury's (this was between 98-2005 all these trucks I am talking about). They fury's were also dumb heavy but they lasted really long, never managed to break the kingpin on them, I liked the turning on them too. I want to say they were slightly lighter than the indy's still.

Kreper / Phantom were just what emo / goth edgester kids would rock, no one serious would skate those from what i saw. they were super kooky. phantom werent AS BAD as the Kreper's, those were extra gimmicky with the bat shaped baseplate shit. 


Would like to hear other ppl thoughts about trucks from that era or before!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on December 16, 2022, 09:43:58 AM
^ phantoms had a wired triangle insert in the front with a little grim reaper looking guy and a built in rubber riser pad. I only ever saw them in highlighter pink, yellow, green or orange so I'm going to say as gimmicky as kre-pers but a different gimmick

Fury's had little hexagonal recess for the mounting nuts so you only needed an Allen key or screwdriver to setup. I remember the pivot being an actual little sphere too

Grind kings (altho they still exist but different) remember the bushings were dogshit and would both completely prolapse of even looked at for too long but they did grind really well. A friend had techo ones I think called Axl and instead of a standard axle it was like a little boomerang or something and the bushings were ribbed.

Monster. Had a really good team but only pair i ever tried was a friends whose were fucked because some dickhead working at the skateshop tightened them so much the nut was actually stuck/broken like an inch down the kingpin.

GM's. Budget trucks. Randomly the brother of the main actor of "Deck Dogz" went to my school and brought his board one day. I rode it for a second and completely bent the axle then his behind the corner and stomped it back and returned his board. Apparently his brother took the board and ate shit and got the blame for bending the axle.

Og tensors. Everything that could ever be said about these has been said but maybe they were the best value for money trucks I ever had. They were my first real trucks and I'd ride them on and off for maybe ten years. They'd live in my backpack and everytime I broke an Indy or venture (which was every other weekend back then) I'd just put the tensors on. I never even thought about them not turning either but I did have 8.5+ board with 7.5 trucks that I rode kinda loose
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Crabby_Bastard on December 16, 2022, 09:58:59 AM
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Most of the team riders just ride whatever is in the box, which is mostly just the standard / team / basic versions of the trucks more than anything else.  I know some request specific things, the more hollow / light / forged versions being for those guys, but I think it could be a fairly even mix all up.

Seems it is about the same for most team riders for Thunder, Indy, Venture, etc.

All of the people I know that ride for Indy and Thunder can get whichever version of the trucks they like, unless they are out of stock at the time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattchew on December 16, 2022, 10:36:43 AM
Going to be flying with my board next week: you’re supposed to loosen your hardware to prevent warping etc. during pressure change, yeah?

If so, follow up question is if you can bring a skate tool as a carry on so I can tighten up when I land? Not sure if they think you can shank someone with the screwdriver attachment or whatever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 16, 2022, 11:47:32 AM
Going to be flying with my board next week: you’re supposed to loosen your hardware to prevent warping etc. during pressure change, yeah?

If so, follow up question is if you can bring a skate tool as a carry on so I can tighten up when I land? Not sure if they think you can shank someone with the screwdriver attachment or whatever.

flown with skate tools and had no issue. most trouble i've run into was having to have my board go through the xray machine twice
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: twic3 on December 16, 2022, 11:57:04 AM
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Going to be flying with my board next week: you’re supposed to loosen your hardware to prevent warping etc. during pressure change, yeah?

If so, follow up question is if you can bring a skate tool as a carry on so I can tighten up when I land? Not sure if they think you can shank someone with the screwdriver attachment or whatever.
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flown with skate tools and had no issue. most trouble i've run into was having to have my board go through the xray machine twice
Same, always kept it in my backpack.

Also try to carry your board on if you can. I've always gotten away with strapping it to my backpack or carry on duffel bag and having them count it as one item with the bag. The real warping comes from it being in the luggage hold since it not pressurized or temp controlled.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattchew on December 16, 2022, 12:04:26 PM
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Going to be flying with my board next week: you’re supposed to loosen your hardware to prevent warping etc. during pressure change, yeah?

If so, follow up question is if you can bring a skate tool as a carry on so I can tighten up when I land? Not sure if they think you can shank someone with the screwdriver attachment or whatever.
[close]

flown with skate tools and had no issue. most trouble i've run into was having to have my board go through the xray machine twice
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Same, always kept it in my backpack.

Also try to carry your board on if you can. I've always gotten away with strapping it to my backpack or carry on duffel bag and having them count it as one item with the bag. The real warping comes from it being in the luggage hold since it not pressurized or temp controlled.

Thanks homies, appreciate it, def gonna be a carry on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 16, 2022, 12:48:41 PM
what are some old truck companies that no longer exist?

I remember these vividly:

Orion
Kreper
Phantom
Fury
Tracker
Destructo
Grind King

I seem to remember Titan and Standard? or am I making thoes up? i cant seem to find anything about them online

Destructo's were really popular in my area. I remember everyone hyping up the insane grind clearance on them, but no one was axeling trucks back then in my area lol. so not sure why this was such a selling point for us. I remember I broke the kingpin on them.

Grind Kings were seen as wack as fuck. I had a pair given to me for free and I bent the axle.

Tracker-Hawk were my first trucks and they werent bad I guess but i broke the kingpin on them.

Orion seemed like good trucks to me, I remember them often set up with SEEK boards at the time... there was a squad of older guys who were super hyped on that combination for some reason at my local hockey arena skatepark. NEver tried them. for all i know they are shit. would love to hear about osmeone who rode them.

Fury were my favorite trucks back then. I did have a pair of Indy's and I did like them, I do recall specifically them being increidbly heavy and the axle slipped really badly, but the kingpin lasted on those, and on Fury's (this was between 98-2005 all these trucks I am talking about). They fury's were also dumb heavy but they lasted really long, never managed to break the kingpin on them, I liked the turning on them too. I want to say they were slightly lighter than the indy's still.

Kreper / Phantom were just what emo / goth edgester kids would rock, no one serious would skate those from what i saw. they were super kooky. phantom werent AS BAD as the Kreper's, those were extra gimmicky with the bat shaped baseplate shit. 


Would like to hear other ppl thoughts about trucks from that era or before!

Phantom became Silver
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on December 16, 2022, 12:51:05 PM
Were not Orions just Trackers w/ a redesign, or have I got that wrong?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 16, 2022, 01:22:18 PM
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Going to be flying with my board next week: you’re supposed to loosen your hardware to prevent warping etc. during pressure change, yeah?

If so, follow up question is if you can bring a skate tool as a carry on so I can tighten up when I land? Not sure if they think you can shank someone with the screwdriver attachment or whatever.
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flown with skate tools and had no issue. most trouble i've run into was having to have my board go through the xray machine twice
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Same, always kept it in my backpack.

Also try to carry your board on if you can. I've always gotten away with strapping it to my backpack or carry on duffel bag and having them count it as one item with the bag. The real warping comes from it being in the luggage hold since it not pressurized or temp controlled.

I bought one of those nylon skateboard bags they sell on eBay and I use it whenever I travel with my board. No one cares or says anything if it's in a bag.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on December 16, 2022, 02:29:07 PM
Were not Orions just Trackers w/ a redesign, or have I got that wrong?
I thought the same. Pairing them with Seek boards make sense because I think they were a Tracker rebrand backed by that one baby faced millionaire
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on December 16, 2022, 02:59:26 PM
what are some old truck companies that no longer exist?

I remember these vividly:

Orion
Kreper
Phantom
Fury
Tracker
Destructo
Grind King

I seem to remember Titan and Standard? or am I making thoes up? i cant seem to find anything about them online

Destructo's were really popular in my area. I remember everyone hyping up the insane grind clearance on them, but no one was axeling trucks back then in my area lol. so not sure why this was such a selling point for us. I remember I broke the kingpin on them.

Grind Kings were seen as wack as fuck. I had a pair given to me for free and I bent the axle.

Tracker-Hawk were my first trucks and they werent bad I guess but i broke the kingpin on them.

Orion seemed like good trucks to me, I remember them often set up with SEEK boards at the time... there was a squad of older guys who were super hyped on that combination for some reason at my local hockey arena skatepark. NEver tried them. for all i know they are shit. would love to hear about osmeone who rode them.

Fury were my favorite trucks back then. I did have a pair of Indy's and I did like them, I do recall specifically them being increidbly heavy and the axle slipped really badly, but the kingpin lasted on those, and on Fury's (this was between 98-2005 all these trucks I am talking about). They fury's were also dumb heavy but they lasted really long, never managed to break the kingpin on them, I liked the turning on them too. I want to say they were slightly lighter than the indy's still.

Kreper / Phantom were just what emo / goth edgester kids would rock, no one serious would skate those from what i saw. they were super kooky. phantom werent AS BAD as the Kreper's, those were extra gimmicky with the bat shaped baseplate shit. 


Would like to hear other ppl thoughts about trucks from that era or before!

Standards did exist, I had a Standard Trucks t shirt.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on December 16, 2022, 03:35:36 PM
what are some old truck companies that no longer exist?

I remember these vividly:

Orion
Kreper
Phantom
Fury
Tracker
Destructo
Grind King

If you count Kreper as being part of Grind King, then all of these brands are still in business as far as I know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 16, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
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Most of the team riders just ride whatever is in the box, which is mostly just the standard / team / basic versions of the trucks more than anything else.  I know some request specific things, the more hollow / light / forged versions being for those guys, but I think it could be a fairly even mix all up.

Seems it is about the same for most team riders for Thunder, Indy, Venture, etc.
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All of the people I know that ride for Indy and Thunder can get whichever version of the trucks they like, unless they are out of stock at the time.


That's interesting to hear.

Is that USA or elsewhere?

Also are they pro, am, just spono?


Just curious, but some of the people (not pro) that I have seen come through the shop were a bit more on the clueless side in that regard, but I know others (including some pro dudes) are very much in tune with their setups and must have very specific things, including wanting to swap some things at the shop that they got that they didn't like, for other stuff that was in stock in the shop.

I always find it funny in dealing with people, some are so lacking in any knowledge while others are so very specific with everything, but I have learned not to talk tech with people unless they start first, no matter who they are.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 17, 2022, 08:19:48 AM
meny pure street pro skaters like jeff carlyle… nick matthews… Athans.. and a very long list… almost nobody use hollow or light kingpin… Guess work better for crusty and grind on crap edges or brings more stability?

Soo team editions and vcast and such non hollow stuff goes better for street?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on December 17, 2022, 08:54:56 AM
Wanted to confirm that I just got a Frog Nick Michel 8.38 and they heat transferred over an old graphic. The heat transfer quality is abysmal and it is flaking off.

Yeah, mine is skating fine but lots of flaking going on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on December 17, 2022, 09:32:19 AM
Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 17, 2022, 09:51:50 AM
Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.

I've got these in black and they're probably my favorite pants.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/ccs-original-relaxed-corduroy-pants-brown
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on December 17, 2022, 10:33:59 AM
meny pure street pro skaters like jeff carlyle… nick matthews… Athans.. and a very long list… almost nobody use hollow or light kingpin… Guess work better for crusty and grind on crap edges or brings more stability?

Soo team editions and vcast and such non hollow stuff goes better for street?

Complete personal preference.

Most sponsored skaters skate whatever trucks they get in their box and usually don't request a specific type.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 17, 2022, 10:46:55 AM
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meny pure street pro skaters like jeff carlyle… nick matthews… Athans.. and a very long list… almost nobody use hollow or light kingpin… Guess work better for crusty and grind on crap edges or brings more stability?

Soo team editions and vcast and such non hollow stuff goes better for street?
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Complete personal preference.

Most sponsored skaters skate whatever trucks they get in their box and usually don't request a specific type.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but someone here said that most pros can't get more than a pair of titanium trucks every year. There's even a video somewhere on YouTube where Tony is talking about his setup and he's like "I'm skating Standards because this is what Rhino sent me," implying that even Hawk just gets whatever's in the box.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on December 17, 2022, 10:57:20 AM
meny pure street pro skaters like jeff carlyle… nick matthews… Athans.. and a very long list… almost nobody use hollow or light kingpin… Guess work better for crusty and grind on crap edges or brings more stability?

Soo team editions and vcast and such non hollow stuff goes better for street?

They're the most basic, cheapest and easiest to get (for free) trucks. Nothing worth worrying about.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on December 17, 2022, 11:00:09 AM
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Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.
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I've got these in black and they're probably my favorite pants.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/ccs-original-relaxed-corduroy-pants-brown

If I could off the baggy fit I would probably go for those but I look hella goofy in most relaxed fits haha. Thank you though!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on December 20, 2022, 06:54:24 AM
Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 20, 2022, 07:20:09 AM
Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?

I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on December 20, 2022, 07:30:32 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.

probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 20, 2022, 07:35:24 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?

I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on December 20, 2022, 10:15:41 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.

I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on December 20, 2022, 10:27:04 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
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I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)

It's not HUGE by any means but i skate twin tails too, so i think ill be ok as long as long as its not shorter than my tail when im done.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 20, 2022, 04:19:26 PM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
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I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)
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It's not HUGE by any means but i skate twin tails too, so i think ill be ok as long as long as its not shorter than my tail when im done.

In looking at one of my 8.38 boards, you could get away with it, but the pushed out holes would make the nose feel very heavy on the manual point as it would just be into the spoon concave area, but it could be done.


The six hole baseplates make it 3/8" difference, if you use any six hole baseplate as a template to redrill it out, or the Chems kits which have 3/8" difference on one and 1/4" on another, so yes the .25 difference is ok and the guy drilled his whole deck out just to prove that the .25 hole difference does nothing to weaken his board, although I doubt he was smashing his board in to slappy madness like some people on here.


The Chems kit is the one I was referring to, as per this post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEOqqSupjR/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on December 21, 2022, 06:33:07 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
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I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)
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It's not HUGE by any means but i skate twin tails too, so i think ill be ok as long as long as its not shorter than my tail when im done.
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In looking at one of my 8.38 boards, you could get away with it, but the pushed out holes would make the nose feel very heavy on the manual point as it would just be into the spoon concave area, but it could be done.


The six hole baseplates make it 3/8" difference, if you use any six hole baseplate as a template to redrill it out, or the Chems kits which have 3/8" difference on one and 1/4" on another, so yes the .25 difference is ok and the guy drilled his whole deck out just to prove that the .25 hole difference does nothing to weaken his board, although I doubt he was smashing his board in to slappy madness like some people on here.


The Chems kit is the one I was referring to, as per this post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEOqqSupjR/

yea might have to snag one of these. will probably go 3/8 for added durability and to split the wb difference between +1/4 and +1/2.

The idea of a heavier nose pop/manny feel sounds awesome to me tbh. That's one thing i miss about ventures, the manny point/feel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 21, 2022, 06:19:31 PM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
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I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)
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It's not HUGE by any means but i skate twin tails too, so i think ill be ok as long as long as its not shorter than my tail when im done.
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In looking at one of my 8.38 boards, you could get away with it, but the pushed out holes would make the nose feel very heavy on the manual point as it would just be into the spoon concave area, but it could be done.


The six hole baseplates make it 3/8" difference, if you use any six hole baseplate as a template to redrill it out, or the Chems kits which have 3/8" difference on one and 1/4" on another, so yes the .25 difference is ok and the guy drilled his whole deck out just to prove that the .25 hole difference does nothing to weaken his board, although I doubt he was smashing his board in to slappy madness like some people on here.


The Chems kit is the one I was referring to, as per this post:


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yea might have to snag one of these. will probably go 3/8 for added durability and to split the wb difference between +1/4 and +1/2.

The idea of a heavier nose pop/manny feel sounds awesome to me tbh. That's one thing i miss about ventures, the manny point/feel


At least using one of those six hole baseplates from an old truck (you said you got in another thread) is a good template, if you wanted to get it done before getting the Chems tool.

Bolt the baseplate on as per usual, making sure it is straight and lined up wtih the other baseplate, then drill through the two extra front holes (or even just have a look at it first to make sure it is not too far into the nose concave) and then turn it around and bolt it down the opposite way in the old holes / new holes as the longer truck bolt pattern and drill out the other two to give you the new 3/8" increase.

I have done this for a lot of boards and it works great to get the even 3/8" without messing it up.  Of course things can still go wrong, or if the bolt holes in the baseplate are ovalled or whatever, but it is a whole lot easier just marking it out and drilling from scratch.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Hastings on December 21, 2022, 11:41:38 PM
Does anybody know about the Plan B Starwars reissues in Colin Mckay's story? ....sorry I didn't DM him like a man.
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Post by: IpathCats on December 22, 2022, 07:29:44 AM
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Any tips for re drilling decks for larger/shorter wb?

I've seen this done on older decks, but my biggest question is how much space do i need to put between the new/old holes to prevent sacrificing as much of the structural integrity of the deck as possible.

I'm thinking about doing this on the 8.38 dlx shape with the 14.5 wb. Ideally i'd like to re drill the nose holes to make it 14.75, but idk if that is too close to the old holes.

Would i need to go all the way to 15in? or do you think i could get away with 14.75 without compromising the deck too much?
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I believe you are overthinking it. If this were some structural, load-bearing part of a frame job, I'd agree that we should follow strict guidelines, but it's a 7-ply sheet of plywood you're going to razor tail or snap in a month or two and replace. So long as there's a decent bit of material between the two holes, I doubt you're going to see failure in that spot before you replace the entire deck. Plenty of decks have come with multiple holes in them, and I'm sure you can see stress fractures between the holes, but I doubt you'll find one example of a deck which actually failed in this spot before the deck was otherwise worn out.

Personally, I would just pencil it out with a speed square and an old truck baseplate. Score the points with an awl and drill.
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probably to some degree. I just didnt want to ruin a deck if i could help it. Any idea what the increments on those oldschool boards with multiple holes were? 1/4 or 1/2 inch?
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I think 1/2", so maybe just go on that.
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I think it’s recommended to go at least 3/8” but 1/4” should be possible also. Going 1/2” sounds a bit much. I don’t recall the DLX 8.38” having a big nose but I could have short term memory loss.  :)
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It's not HUGE by any means but i skate twin tails too, so i think ill be ok as long as long as its not shorter than my tail when im done.
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In looking at one of my 8.38 boards, you could get away with it, but the pushed out holes would make the nose feel very heavy on the manual point as it would just be into the spoon concave area, but it could be done.


The six hole baseplates make it 3/8" difference, if you use any six hole baseplate as a template to redrill it out, or the Chems kits which have 3/8" difference on one and 1/4" on another, so yes the .25 difference is ok and the guy drilled his whole deck out just to prove that the .25 hole difference does nothing to weaken his board, although I doubt he was smashing his board in to slappy madness like some people on here.


The Chems kit is the one I was referring to, as per this post:


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yea might have to snag one of these. will probably go 3/8 for added durability and to split the wb difference between +1/4 and +1/2.

The idea of a heavier nose pop/manny feel sounds awesome to me tbh. That's one thing i miss about ventures, the manny point/feel
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At least using one of those six hole baseplates from an old truck (you said you got in another thread) is a good template, if you wanted to get it done before getting the Chems tool.

Bolt the baseplate on as per usual, making sure it is straight and lined up wtih the other baseplate, then drill through the two extra front holes (or even just have a look at it first to make sure it is not too far into the nose concave) and then turn it around and bolt it down the opposite way in the old holes / new holes as the longer truck bolt pattern and drill out the other two to give you the new 3/8" increase.

I have done this for a lot of boards and it works great to get the even 3/8" without messing it up.  Of course things can still go wrong, or if the bolt holes in the baseplate are ovalled or whatever, but it is a whole lot easier just marking it out and drilling from scratch.

Dang! didnt think about that. Already set those up on a deck for a lil homie who was hurting for a better setup.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on December 22, 2022, 07:51:33 AM
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Does anybody know about the Plan B Starwars reissues in Colin Mckay's story? ....sorry I didn't DM him like a man.
I just saw that also..out Xmas day. How they are not gonna get a C&D this time is beyond me....

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmdGLkqIq84/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 69woodpusher69 on December 22, 2022, 08:33:16 AM
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Does anybody know about the Plan B Starwars reissues in Colin Mckay's story? ....sorry I didn't DM him like a man.
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I just saw that also..out Xmas day. How they are not gonna get a C&D this time is beyond me....

Edit:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmdGLkqIq84/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

what yall think this will cost, 5 hundo?
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Post by: geezer on December 22, 2022, 09:22:26 AM
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Does anybody know about the Plan B Starwars reissues in Colin Mckay's story? ....sorry I didn't DM him like a man.
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I just saw that also..out Xmas day. How they are not gonna get a C&D this time is beyond me....

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmdGLkqIq84/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Looks like only 100 of each. Doesn't a C&D typically mean "stop making them?" They've already stopped  ;D
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 22, 2022, 04:02:59 PM
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Does anybody know about the Plan B Starwars reissues in Colin Mckay's story? ....sorry I didn't DM him like a man.
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I just saw that also..out Xmas day. How they are not gonna get a C&D this time is beyond me....

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmdGLkqIq84/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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Looks like only 100 of each. Doesn't a C&D typically mean "stop making them?" They've already stopped  ;D


Cease and Desist was back then as it is now, almost laughable given how quickly skateboard graphics cycled through back in the day.  These limited editions will as usual will most likely sell out very quickly, so by the time any C&D letter comes though, they have already stopped anyway and are long gone.

As to other issues or ongoing legal titles, most places and brands shrug them off as well, given there is not a lot of money in it really and the cost of legal action is more than what anyone will make back.

It would be different for big corporate companies to start using a logo or picture on repeat - all those other Element and Santa Cruz colabs with Star Wars are licensed and "legal", but are hardly worth looking at compared to the Plan B special editions.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Goggzy60 on December 23, 2022, 01:03:28 PM
Anyone tried truck's from a company called Metal Truck Co. Daughters new complete came with them. Looked in routeone the seem a low price truck. Tried to Google them but nothing comes up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 23, 2022, 03:59:12 PM
@Mbrimson88 may have the scoop but from what I know they are an Australian only brand that copied Thunder. Rode a pair when I was there in holiday and they are pretty good, decent bushings and turn. Didn't meaure the WB extension or height, excellent value for the performance.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 23, 2022, 05:01:57 PM
Anyone happen to know what thread/page @Mbrimson88 posted his mini? Moving and need to cut mine down so the dogs can’t hop the fence. Seemed like they looked decent size/transition.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 23, 2022, 05:18:13 PM
Anyone tried truck's from a company called Metal Truck Co. Daughters new complete came with them. Looked in routeone the seem a low price truck. Tried to Google them but nothing comes up.

@Mbrimson88 may have the scoop but from what I know they are an Australian only brand that copied Thunder. Rode a pair when I was there in holiday and they are pretty good, decent bushings and turn. Didn't meaure the WB extension or height, excellent value for the performance.


Yes, from an Australian distro, as their home brand, so to speak.

I have a few sets on boards that we use for lessons and they skate well.  Sort of like a Thunder copy, a little taller, decent clearance, turn and overall they skate well.  A few guys I know do use them and have had no issues with them and everything they put them through as well.  The combination is usually Metal trucks, Commodore bearings and Picture wheels, on completes or as a pack ready to put on any deck.

I was about to post and then thought I should actually post the link and info too:



https://www.chapter2dist.com/


We also supply Australian owned and run skateboard brands  Picture Wheel Co, Holiday Skateboards, Commodore Bearings, Chatsworth Grip & Metal Trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 23, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
Anyone happen to know what thread/page @Mbrimson88 posted his mini? Moving and need to cut mine down so the dogs can’t hop the fence. Seemed like they looked decent size/transition.

Ha yeah, sorry, had been a bit busy.

Sent you a quick link, but can provide any more info as needed.

I don't even remember where anything is I posted - was there a ramp thread?

I should go looking, but at least everything is up on Instagram.


https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/brimosrampbuild/


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 23, 2022, 06:41:40 PM
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Anyone happen to know what thread/page @Mbrimson88 posted his mini? Moving and need to cut mine down so the dogs can’t hop the fence. Seemed like they looked decent size/transition.
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Ha yeah, sorry, had been a bit busy.

Sent you a quick link, but can provide any more info as needed.

I don't even remember where anything is I posted - was there a ramp thread?

I should go looking, but at least everything is up on Instagram.


https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/brimosrampbuild/


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YGWfbFeku/

Thanks. I know you posted the spine and some others(all in the IG link, thanks again) just couldn’t for the life of me remember where.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Goggzy60 on December 24, 2022, 03:08:17 PM
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@Mbrimson88 may have the scoop but from what I know they are an Australian only brand that copied Thunder. Rode a pair when I was there in holiday and they are pretty good, decent bushings and turn. Didn't meaure the WB extension or height, excellent value for the performance.
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Yes, from an Australian distro, as their home brand, so to speak.

I have a few sets on boards that we use for lessons and they skate well.  Sort of like a Thunder copy, a little taller, decent clearance, turn and overall they skate well.  A few guys I know do use them and have had no issues with them and everything they put them through as well.  The combination is usually Metal trucks, Commodore bearings and Picture wheels, on completes or as a pack ready to put on any deck.

I was about to post and then thought I should actually post the link and info too:



https://www.chapter2dist.com/


We also supply Australian owned and run skateboard brands  Picture Wheel Co, Holiday Skateboards, Commodore Bearings, Chatsworth Grip & Metal Trucks.

Been seeing them turn up in shops around the UK now might try the bairns set as her thunders are only 2 months old.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 25, 2022, 11:20:21 AM
This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on December 26, 2022, 07:44:54 AM
When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on December 26, 2022, 07:55:55 AM
When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?

When I can see part of the insole or even my socks, everything else is just wasteful
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 26, 2022, 08:53:38 AM
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When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?
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When I can see part of the insole or even my socks, everything else is just wasteful

I was like this for years but lately I have noticed that my feet will be killing me a few sessions before they’re completely worn, so this year, for the first time I stopped cobbling them together (get it?!) and started swapping them out when they cause discomfort. Mostly Vans, fwiw.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on December 26, 2022, 10:18:03 AM
When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?

When there’s a hole in the sole. Uppers I can fix but soles I don’t care to even try anymore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 26, 2022, 04:45:33 PM
When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?


I tend to have a few pairs, so some are well worn, some moderately used and some very new.

Depending on the session or what is going on, I will choose shoes accordingly, but the more mellow chilled sessions are when I wear the most well used, with the longer or full days getting the more moderately used or newer shoes.

A long time ago I would wear them til they fell off, but when one was so thin I busted my big toe due to the shoe being so thin and worn out, I tend not to skate them to death any more.

Keeping some for round the house / yard shoes before they get holes right through the sole is good too, but sometimes I end up with too many pairs.

There always seems like there is someone out there who needs even a little more in the shoe department, so leaving some at a park or passing on to others works well for other people I know too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: beandemon on December 26, 2022, 05:09:56 PM
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When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?
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Keeping some for round the house / yard shoes before they get holes right through the sole is good too, but sometimes I end up with too many pairs.


I’m definitely guilty of keeping a pair for shit jobs, but wearing the most busted-ass shoes possible when you actually should be have a little protection or traction is no bueno.  Nice for drywall and interior paint, though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: burner on December 26, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?

It’s classic Quasi shape. Mellow concave, tapered to kicks, comfortable wheelbase, and length is measured with the kicks (so it’s normal length, just under 32 by BBS measure).

If you’ve skate PS, then this will be a treat. If you skate BBS, this will be a shock.

I love skating the 8.75 shape, but its easy to size down in PS Quasi because the shapes are the same (basically) and just changes the width.

There’s obviously really polarised views with PS on Slap - kinda a love and hate situation. Me, I love them, my favourite handsdown.

What do you normally skate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lildonut92 on December 26, 2022, 05:33:31 PM
What causes cupsoles to be less grippy than vulcs? Is it possible to make them just as grippy?

Asking because I love how a vulcanized sole grips. But I need the support of a cupsole. I’m talking real support. Foam midsole.

You would think that the technology exists to make this happen.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 26, 2022, 07:10:36 PM
What causes cupsoles to be less grippy than vulcs? Is it possible to make them just as grippy?

Asking because I love how a vulcanized sole grips. But I need the support of a cupsole. I’m talking real support. Foam midsole.

You would think that the technology exists to make this happen.

I think the AVEs are this shoe exactly but ymmv.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 26, 2022, 07:51:44 PM
When do you guys like to retire shoes? Had a sesh yesterday that had me contemplating retiring my half cabs. They just feel dusted. But they look like they have a few more sessions and the collar is still stiff. But sole feels so floppy. What’s your cutoff point ?

I'll Shoe Goo them until the soles have gone bald or have holes in them. Maybe earlier if the shoe loses grip and I'm skating a smooth park.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 26, 2022, 09:10:27 PM
Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 26, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.

Three Body Problem
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 26, 2022, 10:16:22 PM
Explore With Us and JCS - Criminal Psychology are good to have on in the background if you like real life crime drama, takes an interesting look at the psychology of criminals and how their stories fall apart with increasing scrutiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQt46gvYO40&t=1s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: burner on December 27, 2022, 12:09:49 AM
Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.

This probably isn’t what your asking for, but I just rewatched the movie The Hidden (1987) sci-fi action, and it was a good time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-iB4WAB0o
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on December 27, 2022, 12:41:47 AM
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This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?
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It’s classic Quasi shape. Mellow concave, tapered to kicks, comfortable wheelbase, and length is measured with the kicks (so it’s normal length, just under 32 by BBS measure).

If you’ve skate PS, then this will be a treat. If you skate BBS, this will be a shock.

I love skating the 8.75 shape, but its easy to size down in PS Quasi because the shapes are the same (basically) and just changes the width.

There’s obviously really polarised views with PS on Slap - kinda a love and hate situation. Me, I love them, my favourite handsdown.

What do you normally skate?

Thanks, you the man!
What do you mean with tapered on the kick? it mean the tail nose is pointy like baker for example?

Right now i am skating a 8,25 og logo og mellow shape, really really good deck, but honestly the only point it doesnt really convince me (just as stetick but is a really important to me) is the pointy tail/nose, i prefer fuller shape like for example april or the shape 2 of hockey (shovel) maybe FA

I only got decks manufactured by BBS but would like to try that psstix decks and ofc quasi and gx1000 are my choices
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: burner on December 27, 2022, 01:12:12 AM
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This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?
[close]

It’s classic Quasi shape. Mellow concave, tapered to kicks, comfortable wheelbase, and length is measured with the kicks (so it’s normal length, just under 32 by BBS measure).

If you’ve skate PS, then this will be a treat. If you skate BBS, this will be a shock.

I love skating the 8.75 shape, but its easy to size down in PS Quasi because the shapes are the same (basically) and just changes the width.

There’s obviously really polarised views with PS on Slap - kinda a love and hate situation. Me, I love them, my favourite handsdown.

What do you normally skate?
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Thanks, you the man!
What do you mean with tapered on the kick? it mean the tail nose is pointy like baker for example?

Right now i am skating a 8,25 og logo og mellow shape, really really good deck, but honestly the only point it doesnt really convince me (just as stetick but is a really important to me) is the pointy tail/nose, i prefer fuller shape like for example april or the shape 2 of hockey (shovel) maybe FA

I only got decks manufactured by BBS but would like to try that psstix decks and ofc quasi and gx1000 are my choices

If possible, def pop into a shop and check out the Quasi PS in person, that’s the best way. Quasi also have BBS in their line up, twin tail and others, and people that are stoked on Quasi shapes but prefer BBS are sorted too (easy to tell PS by the PS engraving on top).

PS uses some slightly thinner plys, so this results in a slightly lighter board and more flex (what the professor calls “give and give back”). Some people are used to this and love it, and when they skate BBS it feels heavy and too stiff, but you get used to it (BBS is unquestionably top wood and it’s what most people skate, so that is undeniable).  If you only skate BBS and go to PS, it may feel too flex and not as snappy (often people complain it’s soggy). I skate PS mostly and this isn’t my experience, even when setting up wood that has sat on the deck pile for literally years. But I guess it all comes down to personal preference, what you like, and probably most importantly, what you’re used too. I think often skaters give up on new product too quickly and don’t give their body time to adjust and get the most out of it (whether it’s diff trucks, decks, wheels etc), I’d say at least try it, give it a chance, then you’ll know and can speak from your own experience.

No, not pointy, that’s not it. I mean the deck tapers down at the front and back bolts by about 1/4”, it’s not really visually noticeable but makes the board more manoeuvrable, flip easier etc. So a 8.25 will taper to an 8 by the back bolts for example. The tail is pretty standard shape, the nose is rounder than a reg Baker, and really not that different to DLX, but maybe a bit spoonier. But it’s not as shovel as FA/Hockey imo, way less steep than them, and much mellower concave.

That’s about it man, I’d say try it, maybe you’ll like it, maybe not, bu at least you can talk from your experience and know the difference for yourself. Happy skating, mate. 8)

Here a few threads about what the homies think…..

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111000.0

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=119530.msg3688506#msg3688506
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 27, 2022, 11:06:15 AM
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This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?
[close]

It’s classic Quasi shape. Mellow concave, tapered to kicks, comfortable wheelbase, and length is measured with the kicks (so it’s normal length, just under 32 by BBS measure).

If you’ve skate PS, then this will be a treat. If you skate BBS, this will be a shock.

I love skating the 8.75 shape, but its easy to size down in PS Quasi because the shapes are the same (basically) and just changes the width.

There’s obviously really polarised views with PS on Slap - kinda a love and hate situation. Me, I love them, my favourite handsdown.

What do you normally skate?
[close]

Thanks, you the man!
What do you mean with tapered on the kick? it mean the tail nose is pointy like baker for example?

Right now i am skating a 8,25 og logo og mellow shape, really really good deck, but honestly the only point it doesnt really convince me (just as stetick but is a really important to me) is the pointy tail/nose, i prefer fuller shape like for example april or the shape 2 of hockey (shovel) maybe FA

I only got decks manufactured by BBS but would like to try that psstix decks and ofc quasi and gx1000 are my choices

It's not the classic Quasi shape- it's longer WB and less square. It feels like a slightly shorter DLX 8.25 but made by PS. They have another 8.25 shape that is 14.25 and square as well as the proto shape which also adds a taper towards the rear.

They have also recently added a BBS 8.25 which is like a slightly less square but still full FA but with 14.25, an 8.25 BBS with a 14" WB that is mostly a Gilbert deck, as well as a twin tail. Their site is always an accurate guide as to which is which once you know the dimensions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on December 27, 2022, 02:54:37 PM
I remember a video (maybe it was a Palace vid)
Someone did a fakie heelflip fakie manny and Chew Cannon ( I believe) says “HENRY SANCHEZZZ”… any clue what vid that is? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 27, 2022, 03:28:24 PM
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Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.
[close]

This probably isn’t what your asking for, but I just rewatched the movie The Hidden (1987) sci-fi action, and it was a good time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-iB4WAB0o

Thanks pal. I should have added that any hidden jem from the 80s will do it..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 27, 2022, 04:13:05 PM
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Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.
[close]

This probably isn’t what your asking for, but I just rewatched the movie The Hidden (1987) sci-fi action, and it was a good time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-iB4WAB0o
[close]

Thanks pal. I should have added that any hidden jem from the 80s will do it..

absolutely do -not- watch the sequel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: burner on December 28, 2022, 07:35:22 AM
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This deck:
Quasi Skateboards - “99” 8.25
■ 8.25" x 32.375" WB 14.375"
■ Manufactured at PS Stix
■ Original Artwork by James Rönkkö

Somebody know how the shape is?
[close]

It’s classic Quasi shape. Mellow concave, tapered to kicks, comfortable wheelbase, and length is measured with the kicks (so it’s normal length, just under 32 by BBS measure).

If you’ve skate PS, then this will be a treat. If you skate BBS, this will be a shock.

I love skating the 8.75 shape, but its easy to size down in PS Quasi because the shapes are the same (basically) and just changes the width.

There’s obviously really polarised views with PS on Slap - kinda a love and hate situation. Me, I love them, my favourite handsdown.

What do you normally skate?
[close]

Thanks, you the man!
What do you mean with tapered on the kick? it mean the tail nose is pointy like baker for example?

Right now i am skating a 8,25 og logo og mellow shape, really really good deck, but honestly the only point it doesnt really convince me (just as stetick but is a really important to me) is the pointy tail/nose, i prefer fuller shape like for example april or the shape 2 of hockey (shovel) maybe FA

I only got decks manufactured by BBS but would like to try that psstix decks and ofc quasi and gx1000 are my choices
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It's not the classic Quasi shape- it's longer WB and less square. It feels like a slightly shorter DLX 8.25 but made by PS. They have another 8.25 shape that is 14.25 and square as well as the proto shape which also adds a taper towards the rear.

They have also recently added a BBS 8.25 which is like a slightly less square but still full FA but with 14.25, an 8.25 BBS with a 14" WB that is mostly a Gilbert deck, as well as a twin tail. Their site is always an accurate guide as to which is which once you know the dimensions.

Dude, really? You think if this homie is gonna buy the Quasi, he's gonna be thinking, shit, it's just a shorter DLX? for real?

Not for me man, that's not my experience skating them - it felt like a...Quasi, so I'm gonna just call it classic Quasi because it felt and skated like a Quasi (just like a Girl is like a Girl, or 917 etc regardless of wheelbase and dimensions).

Yes the two diff 8.25 have different wheelbase but the wood is same, concave is same, tail same, taper same, nose almost same (which I already said in my post you didn't quote) just one deck slightly longer for the longer wheelbase. That's my personal experience skating the two shapes. The biggest thing that this pal will notice is the PS, as he's never skated it, so that's down to preference (as I also highlighted in detail in my post you didn't quote). Nevermind, anyway whatever.

You can disagree but that's just your opinion, man! ;D ;D ;D

....I mean you thought Gino and Dill have always skated Venture (and Gino skated Thunder and Indy, and Dill hasn't skated Venture for a decade)....so there's that..... ;D

Gino and Dill were always on Ventures.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 28, 2022, 08:32:23 AM
None of those details are the same. The tail on the 14.38 is steeper and the kicks are rounded. The tail is also longer. I've laid it over the DLX since I have ridden that one and it's much closer to that than the other Quasi 8.25. I've skated a proto, 2 8.25's, the longer 8.25, and 3 8.38's. I've also measured it and since I have a full woodshop I've used contour gauges to measure the distance between kicks and kick curvature.

You're right the wood is the biggest difference, but PS decks are, on average, shorter with more space between the bolts and kicks. That 8.25 has less of this fingers of flat making it the closest PS to a BBS I've ever had. The adjustment between that and the DLX 8.25 was less for me than I expected.

I'll admit being wrong about other things, but I compared every Quasi 2 weeks ago and I have emailed Chad in the past about the details. Here is a copy paste:

"Hey ____,

The 8.25x14.38 is a more traditional, slightly blunted shape with a longer tail than normal. If you liked the Proto this is a much different shape and a bit steeper both the tail and nose. It's definitely less square than the other shapes you've skated and the kicks start closer to the bolts.

The 8.38 shapes you can always tell by the overall length: the one with mellower kicks and longer tail is marked 32.25. We used that one for the Al deck you liked, but they're both pretty close."

Also, I know Dill has ridden Indy's for a long time- I was referring to the period in time when most of his Alien and TWS footage was filmed approximately 1998-2010ish. Actual deck dimensions are easy to quantify and write down rather than remember a video that was produced before I even had all of my teeth.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on December 28, 2022, 09:06:47 AM
Does anyone know of a (USA based) shop that stocks the SKF Ceramic bearings?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on December 28, 2022, 07:11:01 PM
Anyone got any movies or docs or whatever.

I'm getting bummed at my tv and I need background stimulation of worth while I do chores tomorrow all day.

All fucking day.

Perhaps a dope audio book series on YouTube or whatever

I like sci-fi fancy but will watch or listen to most anything that has not to do with skating at this point.

National Geopgraphic - Torn
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on December 29, 2022, 10:24:11 AM
How do people run large wheels (>56mm) without riser pads, especially with shorter trucks? Wouldn't the wheelbite be brutal?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on December 29, 2022, 12:18:22 PM
 the first time I skated my KSL g6 i bailed out of a noseslide all weird, but the real weird part was how my ankle rolled over quite easily. I chalked it up to the shoes being stiff and not broken in yet and my first cupsole in a while. So flash forward to yesterday, KSL all broken in and feeling good. I rolled my ankle trying fs flip on hip. Luckily its not bad, but it made me think, would this have happened in my usual vans ? So the question I pose is this: Do you feel like ankles are more prone to rolling in a chunkier shoe, with a cupsole??? Or is it just all in my head?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on December 29, 2022, 12:34:04 PM
the first time I skated my KSL g6 i bailed out of a noseslide all weird, but the real weird part was how my ankle rolled over quite easily. I chalked it up to the shoes being stiff and not broken in yet and my first cupsole in a while. So flash forward to yesterday, KSL all broken in and feeling good. I rolled my ankle trying fs flip on hip. Luckily its not bad, but it made me think, would this have happened in my usual vans ? So the question I pose is this: Do you feel like ankles are more prone to rolling in a chunkier shoe, with a cupsole??? Or is it just all in my head?

all in your head, I've rolled the same ankle 3 times in the past 3 years in 3 different shoes. Rolled it in a OG DC Lynx, Nike Bruins, and Dunk mids- so vulc or cupsole, lows or highs- don't matter, if you have weak or tweaked ankles it's going to get worse with skating if you don't put in the extra work off board to get them stronger unfortunately
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on December 29, 2022, 01:02:15 PM
Fax. Def planning on implementing some ankle strengthening routine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 29, 2022, 02:44:04 PM
How do people run large wheels (>56mm) without riser pads, especially with shorter trucks? Wouldn't the wheelbite be brutal?

Maybe some have tighter trucks.

Even then, I think it comes down to how stable their board is, as well as how strong their ankles are, to be able to hold the board without it tipping so far as to get wheelbite issues.

On the other hand, I see some boards with crazy wheelbite grooves, down as far as two or so layers, so I wonder what people are doing, but as long as they are still going forwards and dragging back wheels, or going backwards and dragging the front wheels, they wouldn't get pitched.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 69woodpusher69 on December 29, 2022, 02:49:07 PM
Fax. Def planning on implementing some ankle strengthening routine.

some boards have carved out wheel wells, some dudes fuckin wax their deck where the wheel makes contact. i just scooped a bad ass set of spitfire big heads in 63mm for $16 shipped and trying to figure out what the fuck to do with them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on December 29, 2022, 03:00:59 PM
How do people run large wheels (>56mm) without riser pads, especially with shorter trucks? Wouldn't the wheelbite be brutal?
You get used to it. The first few days can be a little tricky and frustrating when I ride big wheels. I do a lot of different shuv/front shuv variations for those few days. Those are the kind of tricks that I’ll wheelbite on the most, so I purposely do them to retrain myself on how to land. I’m not sure what’s going on; if it’s rewiring the muscle memory or if it’s strengthening my ankles/calves. You also develop these deep wheelbite grooves that are a few plies deep. I hope that makes sense

For reference I’m on the heavier side of street skaters and I’ll skate my Thunders relatively loose. Not rattly loose, but I can make my hanger jiggle around by hand
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on December 29, 2022, 03:42:59 PM
anybody here tried dying F4s? i want to try on some older, un-skated sets that have gotten too brown for my liking. also wondering if the old adage of dyed wheels being softer still holds true when you DIY? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 29, 2022, 05:11:28 PM
Anyone rode the new Marana Fiberlite yet? Supposed to be a slimmer, lighter Marana with the Michelin sole. Always looking out for shoes with a lasting sole and hidden lace loops.

(https://static.super-shop.com/1360427-etnies-marana-fiberlite-shoes-black-brown.jpg?w=1920)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on December 29, 2022, 05:34:33 PM
When I look at Instagram skate videos I feel like no footy is shaky.
Mine is when we Film lines. Of course my Filmers suck, but do Filmers usually stabilize videos when they edit them?

If so, what an uncomplicated and easy to use use software for this?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 29, 2022, 05:34:50 PM
Anyone rode the new Marana Fiberlite yet? Supposed to be a slimmer, lighter Marana with the Michelin sole. Always looking out for shoes with a lasting sole and hidden lace loops.

(https://static.super-shop.com/1360427-etnies-marana-fiberlite-shoes-black-brown.jpg?w=1920)

FYI, in case folks do not know but the regular Marana has hidden lace loops, as well, not just the Fibrelite. If you have them, look along the lace loops and you'll notice them.

I have these in the all black leather colorway but have not worn them yet. Just tried them on in my room and they need breaking in to be comfortable/skatable. The leather is stiff and not that soft/pliable out the box. Would make great winter skating shoes though

I've skated the Joslin 2, which uses the same sole. I liked those a lot since the sole was supportive and durable but surprisingly responsive/"soft-gummy" feeling. A beautiful mix of firm but soft.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 29, 2022, 06:00:26 PM
Thanks for the input @DarkPools, thinking if it worth the price of 2 pairs of eS Swift 1.5 which I've been loving. Any comment on sizing (TTS) and durability that hasn't already been covered by Weartested? It's said to be slimmer than the regular Marana, I'll check out the local shop for reference on how puffy it would feel.

https://www.weartested.com/etnies-marana-review/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 29, 2022, 06:21:11 PM
When I look at Instagram skate videos I feel like no footy is shaky.
Mine is when we Film lines. Of course my Filmers suck, but do Filmers usually stabilize videos when they edit them?

If so, what an uncomplicated and easy to use use software for this?

it's could be hardware more than software to be honest. something like a gimble or a stabilizing caddy thing might be what you're looking for?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on December 29, 2022, 08:47:08 PM
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the first time I skated my KSL g6 i bailed out of a noseslide all weird, but the real weird part was how my ankle rolled over quite easily. I chalked it up to the shoes being stiff and not broken in yet and my first cupsole in a while. So flash forward to yesterday, KSL all broken in and feeling good. I rolled my ankle trying fs flip on hip. Luckily its not bad, but it made me think, would this have happened in my usual vans ? So the question I pose is this: Do you feel like ankles are more prone to rolling in a chunkier shoe, with a cupsole??? Or is it just all in my head?
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all in your head, I've rolled the same ankle 3 times in the past 3 years in 3 different shoes. Rolled it in a OG DC Lynx, Nike Bruins, and Dunk mids- so vulc or cupsole, lows or highs- don't matter, if you have weak or tweaked ankles it's going to get worse with skating if you don't put in the extra work off board to get them stronger unfortunately
Think any time your heel is raised increases chances of ankle roll especially if your foot can move around inside the shoe. Super thick insoles in a vulc is prob more dangerous than a cupsole (assuming the cupsole actually cups your heel in) 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on December 29, 2022, 11:37:21 PM
anybody here tried dying F4s? i want to try on some older, un-skated sets that have gotten too brown for my liking. also wondering if the old adage of dyed wheels being softer still holds true when you DIY?

I dyed some quite a few years ago. I think my dye was red or fuchsia. Soaked them in there for a month or so. They turned out looking more like irritated skin pink than what I had planned. Can’t remember what brand dye I used but the chances are it’s different than what you’d get as I live in Finland. So, it didn’t really work as planned but the wheels skated fine and I figured that I don’t really care that much about wheel colors anyway.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 30, 2022, 01:54:14 AM
Thanks for the input @DarkPools, thinking if it worth the price of 2 pairs of eS Swift 1.5 which I've been loving. Any comment on sizing (TTS) and durability that hasn't already been covered by Weartested? It's said to be slimmer than the regular Marana, I'll check out the local shop for reference on how puffy it would feel.

https://www.weartested.com/etnies-marana-review/

It could be worth one for the price of 2 es if you end up liking them. It's noticeably thicker in the sole and overall padding compared to Swift 1.5. The Swift 1.5 is a thinner Marana in a way, and the Fibrelite will be between that and the regular Marana. I've also skated/worn Swift 1.5. Liked them but were a little too thin for me personally.

Marana/Fibrelite Sizing: most people go 0.5 up in them since they tend to run small. 0.5 up from your Swift size and you should be golden. That's what I run!

As for durability, the Michelin soles on the current run is far more durable and harder than the OG sole that Weartested covered. The upper will likely wear out before the soles become unskateable. That also means they're less pliable brand new and need some breaking in (walking around/simple cruises).
Also, the padding in the tongue/collar in the regular Marana does pack out a bit and forms to your foot better with the break in and skating of them. The Fibrelite should be similar but accelerated since they took some padding out already, plus tongue straps!

Hope that helps!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 30, 2022, 05:34:58 AM
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Thanks for the input @DarkPools, thinking if it worth the price of 2 pairs of eS Swift 1.5 which I've been loving. Any comment on sizing (TTS) and durability that hasn't already been covered by Weartested? It's said to be slimmer than the regular Marana, I'll check out the local shop for reference on how puffy it would feel.

https://www.weartested.com/etnies-marana-review/
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It could be worth one for the price of 2 es if you end up liking them. It's noticeably thicker in the sole and overall padding compared to Swift 1.5. The Swift 1.5 is a thinner Marana in a way, and the Fibrelite will be between that and the regular Marana. I've also skated/worn Swift 1.5. Liked them but were a little too thin for me personally.

Marana/Fibrelite Sizing: most people go 0.5 up in them since they tend to run small. 0.5 up from your Swift size and you should be golden. That's what I run!

As for durability, the Michelin soles on the current run is far more durable and harder than the OG sole that Weartested covered. The upper will likely wear out before the soles become unskateable. That also means they're less pliable brand new and need some breaking in (walking around/simple cruises).
Also, the padding in the tongue/collar in the regular Marana does pack out a bit and forms to your foot better with the break in and skating of them. The Fibrelite should be similar but accelerated since they took some padding out already, plus tongue straps!

Hope that helps!!
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Good stuff, thanks for enabling my shopping habit!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 31, 2022, 12:59:11 AM
Sorry and not sorry! Hahah!
If it makes you feel any better, it enables/enabled my own shopping habit.  Always trying to but fewer but it is futile
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on December 31, 2022, 11:06:21 AM
Is there a Gadget for filming that can track a skateboarder? Something that just stands there statically and turns to keep focus on the skater?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 31, 2022, 11:32:47 AM
Is there a Gadget for filming that can track a skateboarder? Something that just stands there statically and turns to keep focus on the skater?

a fancy enough gimble should have tracking and a tripod, like this one https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-Smartphone-Lightweight-Inception-iSteady/dp/B0936NLG28
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on December 31, 2022, 12:10:00 PM
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Is there a Gadget for filming that can track a skateboarder? Something that just stands there statically and turns to keep focus on the skater?
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This would be great if it really works. It not I would pay more for something else too
a fancy enough gimble should have tracking and a tripod, like this one https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-Smartphone-Lightweight-Inception-iSteady/dp/B0936NLG28
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on December 31, 2022, 12:42:40 PM
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This would be great if it really works. It not I would pay more for something else too
a fancy enough gimble should have tracking and a tripod, like this one https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-Smartphone-Lightweight-Inception-iSteady/dp/B0936NLG28
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yeah and just to be clear - i'm not vouching for that model specifically but i do hope it sends you in the right direction
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on December 31, 2022, 12:51:46 PM
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This would be great if it really works. It not I would pay more for something else too
a fancy enough gimble should have tracking and a tripod, like this one https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-Smartphone-Lightweight-Inception-iSteady/dp/B0936NLG28
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yeah and just to be clear - i'm not vouching for that model specifically but i do hope it sends you in the right direction
There's the Soloshot but it is bloody expensive. I only know about it from an old Nine Club Experience where they talked about having to keep the dongle in their pocket so that the camera could track them. Talk starts at around 5 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvV1kdkD7UQ
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DillsDarts on January 01, 2023, 12:31:34 PM
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anybody here tried dying F4s? i want to try on some older, un-skated sets that have gotten too brown for my liking. also wondering if the old adage of dyed wheels being softer still holds true when you DIY?
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I dyed some quite a few years ago. I think my dye was red or fuchsia. Soaked them in there for a month or so. They turned out looking more like irritated skin pink than what I had planned. Can’t remember what brand dye I used but the chances are it’s different than what you’d get as I live in Finland. So, it didn’t really work as planned but the wheels skated fine and I figured that I don’t really care that much about wheel colors anyway.

Recently dyed some F4 og classics with charcoal coloured RIT synthetic dye, left them in for about 24 hrs each side (I was dumb & only bought 1 bottle so had to do side at a time) & worked perfect, turned out this like dark green-ish-black colour which I kinda dig & the graphic stayed too which is dope on the all black. But make sure it’s synthetic, the normal RIT dye is more for clothes I believe & doesn’t actually get into the wheels. I also talked to a homie that tried boiling his wheels in non synthetic dye then letting them soak for about a week, he said the dye lasted about a month of consistent skating but I haven’t tried that method cause I’m not willing to potentially waste $60 on wheels lol. It’s also winter here so I’ve only used em on a few garage sessions & dry street days so no major use but they seem to be holding up fine with the synthetic, if it doesn’t work then you got a cool faded pair of spits then I guess
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on January 01, 2023, 06:27:45 PM
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anybody here tried dying F4s? i want to try on some older, un-skated sets that have gotten too brown for my liking. also wondering if the old adage of dyed wheels being softer still holds true when you DIY?
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I dyed some quite a few years ago. I think my dye was red or fuchsia. Soaked them in there for a month or so. They turned out looking more like irritated skin pink than what I had planned. Can’t remember what brand dye I used but the chances are it’s different than what you’d get as I live in Finland. So, it didn’t really work as planned but the wheels skated fine and I figured that I don’t really care that much about wheel colors anyway.
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Recently dyed some F4 og classics with charcoal coloured RIT synthetic dye, left them in for about 24 hrs each side (I was dumb & only bought 1 bottle so had to do side at a time) & worked perfect, turned out this like dark green-ish-black colour which I kinda dig & the graphic stayed too which is dope on the all black. But make sure it’s synthetic, the normal RIT dye is more for clothes I believe & doesn’t actually get into the wheels. I also talked to a homie that tried boiling his wheels in non synthetic dye then letting them soak for about a week, he said the dye lasted about a month of consistent skating but I haven’t tried that method cause I’m not willing to potentially waste $60 on wheels lol. It’s also winter here so I’ve only used em on a few garage sessions & dry street days so no major use but they seem to be holding up fine with the synthetic, if it doesn’t work then you got a cool faded pair of spits then I guess

thank you both for feedback. sounds like the synthetic dye is way to go. i may as well try it. think i'd dig a weird color more than yellow onion color these have.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzla on January 01, 2023, 07:19:51 PM
Loophole wheels: irie or bumboclot?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: poodude on January 01, 2023, 08:06:29 PM
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This would be great if it really works. It not I would pay more for something else too
a fancy enough gimble should have tracking and a tripod, like this one https://www.amazon.com/Stabilizer-Smartphone-Lightweight-Inception-iSteady/dp/B0936NLG28
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yeah and just to be clear - i'm not vouching for that model specifically but i do hope it sends you in the right direction
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There's the Soloshot but it is bloody expensive. I only know about it from an old Nine Club Experience where they talked about having to keep the dongle in their pocket so that the camera could track them. Talk starts at around 5 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvV1kdkD7UQ

Its probably going to be cheaper to just get an auto-follow drone that has a decent camera already onboard. I'm sure there are a bunch of cheap ones on AliExpress direct from China that will do the job. Only downside is its probably super loud.

4k with auto-follow $32 shipped from China  ;D
ex. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804882610157.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.2d0d6debIHtTXq&algo_pvid=8c9f5780-1f36-475e-918f-54ef84add588&algo_exp_id=8c9f5780-1f36-475e-918f-54ef84add588-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000031514662560%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%2147.1%2132.03%21%21%21%21%21%402102196716726321277781137d067c%2112000031514662560%21sea&curPageLogUid=LI6PqSudQgkL (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804882610157.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.2d0d6debIHtTXq&algo_pvid=8c9f5780-1f36-475e-918f-54ef84add588&algo_exp_id=8c9f5780-1f36-475e-918f-54ef84add588-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000031514662560%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%2147.1%2132.03%21%21%21%21%21%402102196716726321277781137d067c%2112000031514662560%21sea&curPageLogUid=LI6PqSudQgkL)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 01, 2023, 08:25:14 PM
Loophole wheels: irie or bumboclot?


if Ben Gore fucks with'em

 "dem nah bumboclot"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 01, 2023, 08:45:41 PM
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Loophole wheels: irie or bumboclot?
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if Ben Gore fucks with'em

 "dem nah bumboclot"

They are NFG OEMs, I'd rank them below Bones but above Creative and NHS wheels (Ricta / OJ).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 01, 2023, 11:01:20 PM
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anybody here tried dying F4s? i want to try on some older, un-skated sets that have gotten too brown for my liking. also wondering if the old adage of dyed wheels being softer still holds true when you DIY?
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I dyed some quite a few years ago. I think my dye was red or fuchsia. Soaked them in there for a month or so. They turned out looking more like irritated skin pink than what I had planned. Can’t remember what brand dye I used but the chances are it’s different than what you’d get as I live in Finland. So, it didn’t really work as planned but the wheels skated fine and I figured that I don’t really care that much about wheel colors anyway.
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Recently dyed some F4 og classics with charcoal coloured RIT synthetic dye, left them in for about 24 hrs each side (I was dumb & only bought 1 bottle so had to do side at a time) & worked perfect, turned out this like dark green-ish-black colour which I kinda dig & the graphic stayed too which is dope on the all black. But make sure it’s synthetic, the normal RIT dye is more for clothes I believe & doesn’t actually get into the wheels. I also talked to a homie that tried boiling his wheels in non synthetic dye then letting them soak for about a week, he said the dye lasted about a month of consistent skating but I haven’t tried that method cause I’m not willing to potentially waste $60 on wheels lol. It’s also winter here so I’ve only used em on a few garage sessions & dry street days so no major use but they seem to be holding up fine with the synthetic, if it doesn’t work then you got a cool faded pair of spits then I guess
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thank you both for feedback. sounds like the synthetic dye is way to go. i may as well try it. think i'd dig a weird color more than yellow onion color these have.


A couple of sets I got from a friend, who did a whole lot of wheels, stayed black for the life of them, but the funny thing was as the wheels wore down the side walls were still black (or dark colour, not quite black) but the natural urethane showed on the riding surface as they wore, which looked pretty cool.

I think someone cut one of those Spitfire Navs Skeleton Key wheels in half to have a look and the dye got in about half a mm but it still stays coloured for the life of the wheel for any area that has not worn down.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 01, 2023, 11:49:33 PM
Should I wax my flatbar? After a few sessions I often stick on front boards. I am afraid I will slip out more often than I do already on 50/50s. I know I could theoretically go faster but then I would pee my proverbial surf pants.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 02, 2023, 12:46:56 AM
Should I wax my flatbar? After a few sessions I often stick on front boards. I am afraid I will slip out more often than I do already on 50/50s. I know I could theoretically go faster but then I would pee my proverbial surf pants.
Wax your board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 02, 2023, 04:02:04 AM
Should I wax my flatbar? After a few sessions I often stick on front boards. I am afraid I will slip out more often than I do already on 50/50s. I know I could theoretically go faster but then I would pee my proverbial surf pants.

More speed first before wax. The flatbars are pretty wide (truck width) so your deck will make experience more friction during slides.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 02, 2023, 04:18:17 AM
Should I wax my flatbar? After a few sessions I often stick on front boards. I am afraid I will slip out more often than I do already on 50/50s. I know I could theoretically go faster but then I would pee my proverbial surf pants.

Always wax your trucks and deck first.
You could also try to rub a stone or something over the flatbar to make that metal more umm clean. Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 02, 2023, 05:20:47 AM
Cheers. On my fresh deck with all the stickers it slides quite good again, I might just use all my stickers. Going forward I could imagine getting the Ishod / Worrest slicks because I am skating an 8.3 twin anyway now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on January 02, 2023, 06:30:22 AM
Should I wax my flatbar? After a few sessions I often stick on front boards. I am afraid I will slip out more often than I do already on 50/50s. I know I could theoretically go faster but then I would pee my proverbial surf pants.

Def wax your board and trucks where they make contact with the rail/ledge first. If you go to a spot that’s already skateable waxing your board only should save you on time and wax not waxing a whole ledge and also if other people there they may not want you waxing it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 02, 2023, 07:04:08 AM
I usually skate my flat bar in a wet, musty parking garage. Between the cave-like climate and the steel rusting underneath the chipped paint, wax is required to get the thing moving at all. YMMV
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 02, 2023, 07:48:46 AM
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Def wax your board and trucks where they make contact with the rail/ledge first. If you go to a spot that’s already skateable waxing your board only should save you on time and wax not waxing a whole ledge and also if other people there they may not want you waxing it.

I am talking about my own flatbar which I can wax as I please. However, I refrained from doing it and am exploring other alleys. Thx pals. Waxed a curb tho, but I am the only one to skate it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on January 02, 2023, 08:19:37 AM
Sayin

I bought a pair of Es Accel OGs a couple months ago and I love those cunts, however as they're basically my last pair of shoes in the house I'm gonna buy some more in a couple weeks.
I want something puffy like the OGs but not as slim as the Accel Slims- something in the middle. I've had a look at the Etnies Kingpins and Verano and they look decent but none of my local shops have em so I can't get a good look at em.

Anyone have either pair of these? How are they?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on January 02, 2023, 08:35:48 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/tc2hKwX/Screenshot-20230102-173242-2.png) (https://ibb.co/tc2hKwX)
What is the saw like teeth things for on the slayer Indy hardware? It sucks at cutting grip....
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 02, 2023, 08:43:57 AM
Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 02, 2023, 08:48:14 AM
Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?

Pretty sure they are sold like nothing happens. My local just got some enjoi Pilz decks in.
I've even seen yonnie cruz decks sold for regular prize at least 6 months after he was kicked off.

But usually it should all be planned and the pro leaves when the decks are gone
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on January 02, 2023, 08:52:59 AM
Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?
not sure about other brands, but, the enjoi site has the newly departed guys' decks at steep discount now. i'd stockpile if i liked r7 decks.

 https://enjoico.com/products/enjoi-deedz-early-bird-r7-8-375-skateboard-deck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 02, 2023, 09:04:54 AM
anybody ever dyed a pair of jeans before?

anything i should know before trying it?

also is rit good enough or should i go with dylon? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 02, 2023, 09:15:26 AM
Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?

They just sell the old boards. I'm sure shops can get them at a discount, but I've never seen a skate shop discount a board simply because the rider left the team. As for legal ramifications, these guys aren't signing Nike-tier contracts, where unsold product would be destroyed in order to protect the brand name Jordan or Kobe Bryant. I don't know the exact legal area but they are clearly allowed to sell their old product.

https://enjoico.com/collections/deedz/products/enjoi-deedz-early-bird-r7-8-375-skateboard-deck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on January 02, 2023, 10:45:55 AM
anybody ever dyed a pair of jeans before?

anything i should know before trying it?

also is rit good enough or should i go with dylon?

Yes. Many times. What you should know is that the dye won’t attach to the stitching because that’s most likely polyester. So if you dye your green jeans black you’re gonna have black jeans with green stitching.

Also dyeing indigo jeans blue most likely isn’t the best idea as the main point of indigo dyed jeans is that the yarns are dyed before making the fabric and they dye only the ones that show on the outside while the others are left undyed white. That’s what makes blue/indigo jeans look the way they do. If you want them plain dark blue though, it can be done but most likely you don’t.

Also you can only go darker with dyeing and if the end result you want isn’t very dark and the jeans are somewhat dark to begin with, you’re going to end up with some weird mishmash color that’ll most likely look like shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 02, 2023, 10:51:50 AM
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anything i should know before trying it?

also is rit good enough or should i go with dylon?
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Yes. Many times. What you should know is that the dye won’t attach to the stitching because that’s most likely polyester. So if you dye your green jeans black you’re gonna have black jeans with green stitching.

Also dyeing indigo jeans blue most likely isn’t the best idea as the main point of indigo dyed jeans is that the yarns are dyed before making the fabric and they dye only the ones that show on the outside while the others are left undyed white. That’s what makes blue/indigo jeans look the way they do. If you want them plain dark blue though, it can be done but most likely you don’t.

Also you can only go darker with dyeing and if the end result you want isn’t very dark and the jeans are somewhat dark to begin with, you’re going to end up with some weird mishmash color that’ll most likely look like shit.

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i wanna make a light blue pair black, did you use rit or dylon? also are the ones you dyed still the color you dyed them or did it slowly wash out over time?
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Post by: Roisto on January 02, 2023, 11:38:08 AM
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anybody ever dyed a pair of jeans before?

anything i should know before trying it?

also is rit good enough or should i go with dylon?
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Yes. Many times. What you should know is that the dye won’t attach to the stitching because that’s most likely polyester. So if you dye your green jeans black you’re gonna have black jeans with green stitching.

Also dyeing indigo jeans blue most likely isn’t the best idea as the main point of indigo dyed jeans is that the yarns are dyed before making the fabric and they dye only the ones that show on the outside while the others are left undyed white. That’s what makes blue/indigo jeans look the way they do. If you want them plain dark blue though, it can be done but most likely you don’t.

Also you can only go darker with dyeing and if the end result you want isn’t very dark and the jeans are somewhat dark to begin with, you’re going to end up with some weird mishmash color that’ll most likely look like shit.
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and a
i wanna make a light blue pair black, did you use rit or dylon? also are the ones you dyed still the color you dyed them or did it slowly wash out over time?

I’ve used Dylon and Nitor. We don’t have Rit in Finland. Both Dylon & Nitor worked well to make the jeans black. They both faded like normal black jeans do. Definitely nowhere close to the original color but it’s also not some magic that won’t fade at all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 02, 2023, 11:40:38 AM
Use Procion or similar fiber reactive dye with soda ash to hold the dye. Better long-term color fastness for cotton/organic fibers and I find it a much easier process with less stirring required.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on January 02, 2023, 12:13:54 PM
Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?

I still see a lot of Creature Jimmy Wilkins boards around. Some were discounted at some point, but seems to be back up in regular price again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzla on January 02, 2023, 05:56:16 PM
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Loophole wheels: irie or bumboclot?
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if Ben Gore fucks with'em

 "dem nah bumboclot"

yuh seet, jah bless
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 03, 2023, 03:02:56 PM
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Deez leaving Enjoi had me wondering what happens to decks after a pro leaves the company

Does the company
Ship the remaining inventory to their former rider?
Screen over the graphic?
Sell them at huge discounts? I'm sure there are legal ramifications for using the riders name and likeness

Do shops
Sell the decks at regular price or fire sale them?
Ship unsold inventory back to distributors / woodshop?
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Pretty sure they are sold like nothing happens. My local just got some enjoi Pilz decks in.
I've even seen yonnie cruz decks sold for regular prize at least 6 months after he was kicked off.

But usually it should all be planned and the pro leaves when the decks are gone


I think some of the stock ordered is months off, so if something happens and someone quits, shops still get all that stock at the regular price, which kind of sucks for the shop sometimes if the distributor or brand has significant discounts on remaining stock of that rider.

Sometimes it is kinda cool to get the last board of said rider on that brand, but other times, it will just sit there like nothing had changed otherwise the shop is losing money on what could be a good deck, decent shape, even good graphic that someone sooner or later will buy anyway.

Other times shops can't get rid of things soon enough, so anything like that goes straight in the sale section and is cleared out as soon as possible, just like the distro did so they can be rid of it and only have current team riders names on boards on the wall.


It might be different too if quite a few guys seem like they are all jumping ship and a brand is sinking, or something has happened that makes them leave, which may or may not have other ramifications for interest from general public.

Kids and unknowing others will still buy a board more for a cool graphic or look than for any other reason, but I guess too it just comes down to the customer base of the store, whether or not they think they have dead stock sitting there, or still yet to arrive now, or whether they think they can still move it at RRP and keep up margins.

That is a shop perspective anyway.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 07, 2023, 08:33:42 PM
if you were to build a strictly slappy set up you going bigger wheels or smaller wheels?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on January 07, 2023, 08:36:41 PM
if you were to build a strictly slappy set up you going bigger wheels or smaller wheels?

I’d probably go slightly smaller (less wheel to catch on) but some people say it doesn’t matter
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 07, 2023, 09:15:37 PM
if you were to build a strictly slappy set up you going bigger wheels or smaller wheels?

I got some tiny wheels from a friend and found them to be terrible for slappies, though obviously some of the “slappy influencer” types skate them just fine. Personally, the best slappy skaters I know almost all ride ~8.25-8.5 decks with standard 52-55mm wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 07, 2023, 11:41:40 PM
I think small wheels work fine on slappies if the curb is slanted and/or low enough to get on. On a vertical curb, bigger wheels are better. I also believe bigger wheels work better on 50/50s, whereas smaller wheels might be a tad easier to pinch on crooks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oldxdad on January 07, 2023, 11:48:40 PM
I ran 50mm-56mm last year on slappies and the sweet spot for me is 54mm in a dragon or x formula.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on January 08, 2023, 01:42:07 AM
Sayin

I bought a pair of Es Accel OGs a couple months ago and I love those cunts, however as they're basically my last pair of shoes in the house I'm gonna buy some more in a couple weeks.
I want something puffy like the OGs but not as slim as the Accel Slims- something in the middle. I've had a look at the Etnies Kingpins and Verano and they look decent but none of my local shops have em so I can't get a good look at em.

Anyone have either pair of these? How are they?

Personally, as a substitute to those Accel OGs, you could run:

Etnies:
Kingpin
Joslin
Marana
Jefferson Mid

DC:
Lynx OG
Manteca 4

Es:
Penny 2
Silo SC
Quattro
Evant

Emerica:
KSL G6
Gamma G6 (maybe?)

Adidas:
Forum (Low or Mid) [skate or non-skate]
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: truthislie on January 08, 2023, 12:47:59 PM
How can you take the N off the sidewall of a NB 440? I love them but I d even love them more without the giant N on the side.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 08, 2023, 01:06:01 PM
How can you take the N off the sidewall of a NB 440? I love them but I d even love them more without the giant N on the side.

Seam ripper. They pop right off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 09, 2023, 04:53:46 AM
Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 09, 2023, 05:49:02 AM
Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?

I did, because you have to clean them after every wet session anyway
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 09, 2023, 06:40:47 AM
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Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?
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I did, because you have to clean them after every wet session anyway

Thought so. How do you clean them, take them out of the wheels each time? Sorry I am new to rain set ups …
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 09, 2023, 07:08:08 AM
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Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?
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I did, because you have to clean them after every wet session anyway
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Thought so. How do you clean them, take them out of the wheels each time? Sorry I am new to rain set ups …

All I do is take them out, put them in alcohol and spin them around to get all the water out. Then just let them dry. If they aren't spinning right, one drop of speed cream
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on January 09, 2023, 07:53:08 AM
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Sayin

I bought a pair of Es Accel OGs a couple months ago and I love those cunts, however as they're basically my last pair of shoes in the house I'm gonna buy some more in a couple weeks.
I want something puffy like the OGs but not as slim as the Accel Slims- something in the middle. I've had a look at the Etnies Kingpins and Verano and they look decent but none of my local shops have em so I can't get a good look at em.

Anyone have either pair of these? How are they?
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Personally, as a substitute to those Accel OGs, you could run:

Etnies:
Kingpin
Joslin
Marana
Jefferson Mid

DC:
Lynx OG
Manteca 4

Es:
Penny 2
Silo SC
Quattro
Evant

Emerica:
KSL G6
Gamma G6 (maybe?)

Adidas:
Forum (Low or Mid) [skate or non-skate]

Thank you chief, I jumped for the Lynxes and I know my local got some Gammas so I'm gonna cop em eventually. Bless.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 09, 2023, 09:46:24 AM
How is the sizing on Etnies Windrow (Cup)? Also, has anyone used a seam ripper on Etnies? The silhouettes and prices make them too tempting to ignore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 09, 2023, 01:46:32 PM
Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on January 09, 2023, 02:05:24 PM
Bearing question: are ceramics actually slower while skating street?

I have some that feel great in the park and on super smooth ground, but feel dead when pushing on anything besides that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 09, 2023, 02:50:44 PM
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Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?
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I did, because you have to clean them after every wet session anyway
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Thought so. How do you clean them, take them out of the wheels each time? Sorry I am new to rain set ups …
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All I do is take them out, put them in alcohol and spin them around to get all the water out. Then just let them dry. If they aren't spinning right, one drop of speed cream

Pro tip: If you have it in your country search for Aerosol 99% isopropyl alcohol or just put it in one of those spray bottles for cosmetics. Spin the wheel and douse it with iso and just stuff a rag in the bearing to get the crust off. You don't really even need to do that part. The high % iso doesn't have much water and dries super quick. Ace Hardware stores in the US sell the aerosol version, which makes it less messy if you aim the straw right at the balls. Compressed air also helps get shit outta there too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on January 09, 2023, 08:34:06 PM
Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
id want to say narrow board but it depends
what size boards are we talking about and what truck weight?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mcidraque on January 09, 2023, 09:33:34 PM
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Would you pop the shields on the bearings of a rain set up ?
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I did, because you have to clean them after every wet session anyway
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Thought so. How do you clean them, take them out of the wheels each time? Sorry I am new to rain set ups …
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All I do is take them out, put them in alcohol and spin them around to get all the water out. Then just let them dry. If they aren't spinning right, one drop of speed cream
[close]

Pro tip: If you have it in your country search for Aerosol 99% isopropyl alcohol or just put it in one of those spray bottles for cosmetics. Spin the wheel and douse it with iso and just stuff a rag in the bearing to get the crust off. You don't really even need to do that part. The high % iso doesn't have much water and dries super quick. Ace Hardware stores in the US sell the aerosol version, which makes it less messy if you aim the straw right at the balls. Compressed air also helps get shit outta there too.

good tip. But also thanks for waking up the 12 y/o in me haha

Pro tip: aim the straw right at the balls.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 09, 2023, 09:35:00 PM
Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks

We talking about straight flips (kickflips / heelflips) or scoopy flips (hardflips / 360 flips / varial heel)?

I'd say B, since narrower deck usually means sorter deck, so your foot flicks off sooner.

Pro tip: aim the straw right at the balls.

Fucking lol, thank you based god.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 10, 2023, 12:20:34 AM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
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id want to say narrow board but it depends
what size boards are we talking about and what truck weight?
I'd say narrow board but if you want the ultimate fast flipper setup a wide board with narrow trucks. I've heard some rumour Rodney used to put led fishing weights under his baseplates to make his board flip faster. Probably not true but funny to think about
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on January 10, 2023, 04:37:05 AM
Bearing question: are ceramics actually slower while skating street?

I have some that feel great in the park and on super smooth ground, but feel dead when pushing on anything besides that

i see no reason this feeling would come from the bearings
I would say it's a wheel situation
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on January 10, 2023, 04:54:10 AM
Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks

cool
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 10, 2023, 06:38:37 AM
Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks

We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.

I came here to ask, did bones change the STF formula in the past few years?  I bought some 54mm 103a Stf retros and they are super soggy and don’t slide compared to when I used to ride them.  I rode stf for about about 6 years then switched to f4.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 10, 2023, 07:13:41 AM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
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We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.

I came here to ask, did bones change the STF formula in the past few years?  I bought some 54mm 103a Stf retros and they are super soggy and don’t slide compared to when I used to ride them.  I rode stf for about about 6 years then switched to f4.

Huh, friend had the same situation with his V1 STF PJ Ladd wheels, he rides STF exclusively and said they felt softer than usual. Compared to the F4 101a I was riding I couldn't tell.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 10, 2023, 08:02:49 AM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
[close]

We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.

I came here to ask, did bones change the STF formula in the past few years?  I bought some 54mm 103a Stf retros and they are super soggy and don’t slide compared to when I used to ride them.  I rode stf for about about 6 years then switched to f4.
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Huh, friend had the same situation with his V1 STF PJ Ladd wheels, he rides STF exclusively and said they felt softer than usual. Compared to the F4 101a I was riding I couldn't tell.

The slide is rubbery and skids rather than a smooth slide.  I was wondering if it was just the stf retros but your friend’s situation makes me think otherwise.  I found an old set that must be 4 years old and didn’t even have the durometer on the graphic and they slid how I’m used to
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 10, 2023, 10:50:26 AM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
[close]

We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.

I came here to ask, did bones change the STF formula in the past few years?  I bought some 54mm 103a Stf retros and they are super soggy and don’t slide compared to when I used to ride them.  I rode stf for about about 6 years then switched to f4.

As a fake physicist(currently finishing masters thesis): I don't know, engineers do that shit.

But: I think an 8.5 with mag lights is still heavier than a 7.5 with indy standards, so the narrow board always wins
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 10, 2023, 11:03:21 AM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
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id want to say narrow board but it depends
what size boards are we talking about and what truck weight?

I mostly posted this for the sake of discussion but to be specific to my scenario:
A. DLX 8.4 14.25/Thunder light 148
B. DLX 8.25 14.38/ Ace 44 standard
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 10, 2023, 11:22:46 AM
Those decks are so close in specs it doesn't matter. Run the same trucks on either of them and you'll be fine. The DLX 8.25 is actually a bit over 8.38 and has a longer WB but shorter tail. You have trucks on there that likely weigh at or over 400g and trucks that weigh barely over 300g on the other one. The Thunders save more weight Than the tiny increase in wood.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 10, 2023, 11:35:33 AM
Those decks are so close in specs it doesn't matter. Run the same trucks on either of them and you'll be fine. The DLX 8.25 is actually a bit over 8.38 and has a longer WB but shorter tail. You have trucks on there that likely weigh at or over 400g and trucks that weigh barely over 300g on the other one. The Thunders save more weight Than the tiny increase in wood.

I keep forgetting that the DLX 8.25 is actually 8.38. Thanks for the reminder. I feel like less of an insane person now, though probably just as insane as before.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: truthislie on January 10, 2023, 11:58:39 AM
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How can you take the N off the sidewall of a NB 440? I love them but I d even love them more without the giant N on the side.
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Seam ripper. They pop right off.

Thanks man, just tried it and it worked very well!

https://ibb.co/LZMKtFd(https://i.ibb.co/LZMKtFd/AEA1-E3-BC-0047-467-B-B959-13427951-DA2-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LZMKtFd)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: geezer on January 10, 2023, 12:23:58 PM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
[close]

We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.



Physics teacher here:
The quantity we use to show how much resistance an object (like a truck) has to rotating is called the moment of inertia. The calculation for it involves the mass of the object and takes into account where that mass is distributed. Basically, it's the mass multiplied by some factor of length/distance. BUT... the length piece tends to be squared while the mass part doesn't, which makes length/weight distribution more important than weight.
The real answer is either. If you have a heavy, narrow truck, the heaviness makes it harder to flip, but the narrowness makes it easier. With a light, wide truck, the width makes it harder, but the light weight makes it easier. And with a wide board, you will also have better leverage in making it flip, since your foot is pushing further away from the axis of rotation.
Best flipper? Super magic carpet setup: wide board, narrow trucks with light hangers and heavy baseplates, small wheels. You want 360 flips? Shorten the wheelbase to move the mass of the trucks and wheels closer to the center. That's why people can tre flip on those little cruiser boards.  ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 10, 2023, 01:14:39 PM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
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We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.


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Physics teacher here:
The quantity we use to show how much resistance an object (like a truck) has to rotating is called the moment of inertia. The calculation for it involves the mass of the object and takes into account where that mass is distributed. Basically, it's the mass multiplied by some factor of length/distance. BUT... the length piece tends to be squared while the mass part doesn't, which makes length/weight distribution more important than weight.
The real answer is either. If you have a heavy, narrow truck, the heaviness makes it harder to flip, but the narrowness makes it easier. With a light, wide truck, the width makes it harder, but the light weight makes it easier. And with a wide board, you will also have better leverage in making it flip, since your foot is pushing further away from the axis of rotation.
Best flipper? Super magic carpet setup: wide board, narrow trucks with light hangers and heavy baseplates, small wheels. You want 360 flips? Shorten the wheelbase to move the mass of the trucks and wheels closer to the center. That's why people can tre flip on those little cruiser boards.  ;)

Now this is the level of psychosis I’m talking about! Now which truck has the heaviest baseplates but lightest hangers? I feel like this is an @Xen question!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on January 10, 2023, 02:05:31 PM

Best flipper? Super magic carpet setup: wide board, narrow trucks with light hangers and heavy baseplates, small wheels. You want 360 flips? Shorten the wheelbase to move the mass of the trucks and wheels closer to the center. That's why people can tre flip on those little cruiser boards.  ;)

I'd agree with this.

Indy standard plates w/IKP and TI hangers is probably the answer @Richard Skidder
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 10, 2023, 04:15:45 PM
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Best flipper? Super magic carpet setup: wide board, narrow trucks with light hangers and heavy baseplates, small wheels. You want 360 flips? Shorten the wheelbase to move the mass of the trucks and wheels closer to the center. That's why people can tre flip on those little cruiser boards.  ;)
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I'd agree with this.

Indy standard plates w/IKP and TI hangers is probably the answer @Richard Skidder

Almost exactly what I was thinking yet I hadn’t considered the sleeve nut for added weight in the baseplate. Haha rad.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 10, 2023, 07:42:51 PM
Does anyone know the exact dims of Element 8.38 decks? Specifically this graphic?

(https://images.boardriders.com/global/element-products/all/default/medium-large/alyxd00279_element,f_ast_frt1.jpg)

I know these aren't made by BBS, their the China stock which is fine by me.

Officially on the Element website it's listed is 8.38 x 32.2 x 14.25 (N: 7.125, T: 6.55), but other sites (Tactics) have listed it as 8.38 x 31.8 x 14.4 (N: 7, T: 6.25). Would like to avoid the latter since I can't deal with a stubby tail.

https://www.elementbrand.com/squared-30-madars-skateboard-deck-ALYXD00279.html
https://www.tactics.com/element/madars-squared-30-838-skateboard-deck

Trying to stick to 1 deck dimension for 2023 and my local has a few of these on discount.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 10, 2023, 07:49:03 PM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
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We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.


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Physics teacher here:
The quantity we use to show how much resistance an object (like a truck) has to rotating is called the moment of inertia. The calculation for it involves the mass of the object and takes into account where that mass is distributed. Basically, it's the mass multiplied by some factor of length/distance. BUT... the length piece tends to be squared while the mass part doesn't, which makes length/weight distribution more important than weight.
The real answer is either. If you have a heavy, narrow truck, the heaviness makes it harder to flip, but the narrowness makes it easier. With a light, wide truck, the width makes it harder, but the light weight makes it easier. And with a wide board, you will also have better leverage in making it flip, since your foot is pushing further away from the axis of rotation.
Best flipper? Super magic carpet setup: wide board, narrow trucks with light hangers and heavy baseplates, small wheels. You want 360 flips? Shorten the wheelbase to move the mass of the trucks and wheels closer to the center. That's why people can tre flip on those little cruiser boards.  ;)
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Now this is the level of psychosis I’m talking about! Now which truck has the heaviest baseplates but lightest hangers? I feel like this is an @Xen question!
Dam maybe there is some truth to the Rodney putting led weights under his baseplates rumour. Old tensor hangers were probably pretty light
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on January 11, 2023, 10:10:17 PM
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Here’s a fun dumb one, which flips faster :
A. Wider board/ light trucks
B. Narrow board/ heavy trucks
[close]

We need a physicist for that one, I’d like to know the actual answer.

I came here to ask, did bones change the STF formula in the past few years?  I bought some 54mm 103a Stf retros and they are super soggy and don’t slide compared to when I used to ride them.  I rode stf for about about 6 years then switched to f4.
[close]

Huh, friend had the same situation with his V1 STF PJ Ladd wheels, he rides STF exclusively and said they felt softer than usual. Compared to the F4 101a I was riding I couldn't tell.
[close]

The slide is rubbery and skids rather than a smooth slide.  I was wondering if it was just the stf retros but your friend’s situation makes me think otherwise.  I found an old set that must be 4 years old and didn’t even have the durometer on the graphic and they slid how I’m used to

We've chatted about this in the wheels/spit threads...they changed the STF formula at some point...sometime after they started making the 'natural' colored 99a stfs, the 103a stfs became off white (but not as brown as the 99as) and nowhere near as bright white as the old STFs were...the new 103s feels soft...like a 99a.

That said, the v1 51 Ladds I have are one of my favorite wheels. They still bluntslide like a boss.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 12, 2023, 08:15:10 AM
Thanks for confirming.  I went back and read about 20 pages in the other thread till I came across some STF comments.  At least I have 2 old sets of bone white stfs and I’ll ride those until they die so I can forget about wheel madness for a while
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on January 12, 2023, 12:01:45 PM
I have no idea why Bones changed up their wheels to that brown color. I guess that they felt Spitfire was eating their lunch with the F4's and wanted to copy their look, but it absolutely changed how their wheels performed. I remember being really impressed with the first batch of "Easy Streets", but the brown 99a were just unremarkable in comparison. Not surprised to hear the 103a STFs performed worse as well.

It even seems dumb from a branding perspective, bones were long known for their bleached white look. Not everyone loves it but it's not like everyone loves potato brown wheels either.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nth syd bear on January 13, 2023, 12:44:07 AM
Anyone put an IKP in tensor mag lights?

I'm thinking it might be a waste of time since mag lights don't last long
Nor are they very pricey to replace.   any thoughts?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on January 14, 2023, 03:20:28 PM
I'm looking for a full 8.125 with a 14.25 wb preferably.

Broke my 8.28 and want to keep my 144s running.

Alien is a lil too short at 31.5 and 14wb, how full is the nose on the Polar?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on January 14, 2023, 05:39:45 PM
I'm looking for a full 8.125 with a 14.25 wb preferably.

Broke my 8.28 and want to keep my 144s running.

Alien is a lil too short at 31.5 and 14wb, how full is the nose on the Polar?

The 8.125 Polar I have seems to be the same exact deck as the Anti Hero black eagle. A long enough, but tapered nose. A Baker B2 shape 8.125 also is 32 and 14.25 wheelbase with a nice round nose but not FA/Hockey crazy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 14, 2023, 05:52:54 PM
I'm looking for a full 8.125 with a 14.25 wb preferably.

Broke my 8.28 and want to keep my 144s running.

Alien is a lil too short at 31.5 and 14wb, how full is the nose on the Polar?


I would say the Polar is the same shape as the other BBS 8.125 regular boards, like Antihero black eagle - 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and longer but more pointy kicks that are anything but full.

To me it was a really good board and I had a lot of them before I sized up permanently, but if you are after a more full shape, that one might not quite be what you are after.

I didn't realise the AWS boards under 8.25 were a lot shorter either, but it has been a while since I looked at those sizes.

Guessing the 8.25 is a little big for what you want too?


Edit:

Ha yeah, Dino with the good info!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on January 14, 2023, 06:56:28 PM
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I'm looking for a full 8.125 with a 14.25 wb preferably.

Broke my 8.28 and want to keep my 144s running.

Alien is a lil too short at 31.5 and 14wb, how full is the nose on the Polar?
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The 8.125 Polar I have seems to be the same exact deck as the Anti Hero black eagle. A long enough, but tapered nose. A Baker B2 shape 8.125 also is 32 and 14.25 wheelbase with a nice round nose but not FA/Hockey crazy.

Good info, thanks man. I forgot about the B2 shapes...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on January 14, 2023, 08:03:07 PM
What Vans do you think Bryan Kohberger was wearing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 15, 2023, 06:09:37 AM
What Vans do you think Bryan Kohberger was wearing?
looks more like the kind of sick fuck that wears Skechers
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 15, 2023, 02:13:02 PM
Back in the day I had some Thunder 147s but I am on Indy Forged Hollows now. Does anyone know what the height was for the Thunder 147s? I have a bit of ghost pop sometimes with specific tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on January 15, 2023, 02:34:07 PM
Back in the day I had some Thunder 147s but I am on Indy Forged Hollows now. Does anyone know what the height was for the Thunder 147s? I have a bit of ghost pop sometimes with specific tricks.
Depending on your baseplate, 147s are reported to have a 49/50mm axle height for forged/cast plates respectively.
Ace are what… 53mm?
So as much as 3 to 4mm diff: that may be your goblin right there.
My guess is you’ll grow accustomed to the change soon enough.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2023, 02:35:49 PM
Back in the day I had some Thunder 147s but I am on Indy Forged Hollows now. Does anyone know what the height was for the Thunder 147s? I have a bit of ghost pop sometimes with specific tricks.


I am not sure how old these ones are here, but they sure are old - back when there were lo and hi versions, before they went to the single current height now of 50mm for 147s on cast plates.

They look like they are about 52mm which is about the same as what 148 and up are nowdays, but still 1.5 mm lower than Indy Forged baseplate options.

* Kind of funny that some trucks were lowered to make more an inbetween size when the lo and hi were changed out.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on January 15, 2023, 02:42:18 PM
Anyone ever buy a popsicle and then cut or sand it into the shaped deck you want? Seems like an odd issue to have but I want to support my local and I like to ride a very specific DLX shape that they don't carry.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2023, 02:51:18 PM
Anyone ever buy a popsicle and then cut or sand it into the shaped deck you want? Seems like an odd issue to have but I want to support my local and I like to ride a very specific DLX shape that they don't carry.


I think there has been mention of things here and there, but I couldn't find any other threads besides this one:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=48527.0

DIY boards / graphics


Some shaping, sanding and finishing of boards, along with just doing graphics.


Back in the Black Label punk point days, a few people I know (self included) cut the point into the nose of the board for a minute when they couldn't find any more Adams boards that came like that.

Apart from that, some others have cut down boards, or shaped fun smaller boards from old bigger boards, but it is easy enough to do and can turn out quite well if done correctly.

Having the shape from an old board is a good way to do it, but some free hand stuff that works well enough.

That thread has some good ones too.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on January 15, 2023, 03:00:16 PM
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Anyone ever buy a popsicle and then cut or sand it into the shaped deck you want? Seems like an odd issue to have but I want to support my local and I like to ride a very specific DLX shape that they don't carry.
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I think there has been mention of things here and there, but I couldn't find any other threads besides this one:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=48527.0

DIY boards / graphics


Some shaping, sanding and finishing of boards, along with just doing graphics.


Back in the Black Label punk point days, a few people I know (self included) cut the point into the nose of the board for a minute when they couldn't find any more Adams boards that came like that.

Apart from that, some others have cut down boards, or shaped fun smaller boards from old bigger boards, but it is easy enough to do and can turn out quite well if done correctly.

Having the shape from an old board is a good way to do it, but some free hand stuff that works well enough.

That thread has some good ones too.

Sick, thanks! Some good shit in that thread
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 16, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
Anyone know Shanahanz's setup? I'm curious if it's his shoes that are just massive, board is still small, or both.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on January 16, 2023, 01:54:57 PM
I’m pretty sure he skates a 7.75”. Can’t cite any sources though as I don’t care enough to remember where I read that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on January 19, 2023, 09:06:39 AM
How are people storing decks? I bought some heavy duty 10"x36" plastic bags to keep some of my collection in, but I'm not sure whether to keep them in the original shrink wrap or remove from the shrink before bagging. I feel like I saw someone say the original shrink can pull the graphic off after a certain amount of time. I keep them stacked horizontally in a box in the closet so temperature wise it's super stable and I've been using paper to separate them but the bags should help protect them.

@Mbrimson88 what do you think?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 19, 2023, 10:33:20 AM
I saw this graphic on some recent video (I can’t remember for the life of me which one).  Anyone know anything about this brand?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0656/2699/6985/products/448C2604-8A66-4A49-9764-36F8BE154FE2.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on January 19, 2023, 10:58:57 AM
I saw this graphic on some recent video (I can’t remember for the life of me which one).  Anyone know anything about this brand?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0656/2699/6985/products/448C2604-8A66-4A49-9764-36F8BE154FE2.jpg)

Black Jesus is just like an instagram dude
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on January 19, 2023, 11:03:37 AM
I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 19, 2023, 11:25:16 AM
I've tried it with Thunder 149 no risers. Great combo, but preferred it on 148s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2023, 03:12:26 PM
How are people storing decks? I bought some heavy duty 10"x36" plastic bags to keep some of my collection in, but I'm not sure whether to keep them in the original shrink wrap or remove from the shrink before bagging. I feel like I saw someone say the original shrink can pull the graphic off after a certain amount of time. I keep them stacked horizontally in a box in the closet so temperature wise it's super stable and I've been using paper to separate them but the bags should help protect them.

@Mbrimson88 what do you think?


I have also heard some people say the shrink wrap on heat transfers is not such a good thing, but I have never seen anyone with issues with them, that I can recall.

Quite a few of the main reissue brands don't have those sort of boards in shrink and have them in thicker poly bags, so there could be something with that.  They are also usually the screen printed boards too, but in general shrink wrap is a good protective layer between the board, the graphic and whatever else comes at them from the outside world.

Not to mention that boards NOT in shrink look a whole lot better when displayed or even just to look at, smell, touch, etc.  Yes at least one collector I know loves to smell them when he gets them out of their bags to do whatever he does.  Whatever hey?!?

At least storage, flat in boxes is the usual go to, for me not going as far as taping up the boxes securely after every time you open one, but I know on rainy days, it is not a good idea to go through boards, or anything else, for that matter, even though it might seem like the best day to get boards out and look through them cause you can't skate.  Too much moisture in the air will get into everything.

I used to have grip backing sheets between a lot of them, before I ended up with a lot of plastic bags to put each deck in, which worked well enough, but again some people say that is not a good idea - still scratching the graphics or whatever, but again, I don't think I have ever had issues.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2023, 03:20:38 PM
I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.


Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.


Edit:

Someone else just posted another 8.38 on the setup thread with Ace trucks and info for you to check too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3946580#msg3946580


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 19, 2023, 03:35:41 PM
Chima rides 8.25
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 19, 2023, 04:03:25 PM
Chima rides 8.25


He might have changed it up since then, but this was the same setup dimensions when I changed his wheels out many years ago on a tour that came through Brisbane, AU.


chimaferguson
Verified
8.38 149 54mm @realskateboards


https://www.instagram.com/p/CNJU5F1pSV_/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on January 19, 2023, 04:07:53 PM
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How are people storing decks? I bought some heavy duty 10"x36" plastic bags to keep some of my collection in, but I'm not sure whether to keep them in the original shrink wrap or remove from the shrink before bagging. I feel like I saw someone say the original shrink can pull the graphic off after a certain amount of time. I keep them stacked horizontally in a box in the closet so temperature wise it's super stable and I've been using paper to separate them but the bags should help protect them.

@Mbrimson88 what do you think?
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I have also heard some people say the shrink wrap on heat transfers is not such a good thing, but I have never seen anyone with issues with them, that I can recall.

Quite a few of the main reissue brands don't have those sort of boards in shrink and have them in thicker poly bags, so there could be something with that.  They are also usually the screen printed boards too, but in general shrink wrap is a good protective layer between the board, the graphic and whatever else comes at them from the outside world.

Not to mention that boards NOT in shrink look a whole lot better when displayed or even just to look at, smell, touch, etc.  Yes at least one collector I know loves to smell them when he gets them out of their bags to do whatever he does.  Whatever hey?!?

At least storage, flat in boxes is the usual go to, for me not going as far as taping up the boxes securely after every time you open one, but I know on rainy days, it is not a good idea to go through boards, or anything else, for that matter, even though it might seem like the best day to get boards out and look through them cause you can't skate.  Too much moisture in the air will get into everything.

I used to have grip backing sheets between a lot of them, before I ended up with a lot of plastic bags to put each deck in, which worked well enough, but again some people say that is not a good idea - still scratching the graphics or whatever, but again, I don't think I have ever had issues.

Yeah that all makes sense. I have some boards I displayed that are out of shrink and some that are still in shrink so I was a little bit torn about what to do. And of course part of me wants some consistency whether they're all in wrap or just in bags. I'll probably just keep the boards that are shrinked still in the shrink, and use the ziploc bag as an extra layer of protection
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on January 19, 2023, 04:14:10 PM
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
thank you for the insight and response! i think i will go ahead and put the thunders on as i am already working in a nice groove on my set. excited to try it out with the 14.5. :-)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on January 19, 2023, 04:23:46 PM
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
Thanks for the insight and response! I think i’m just going to go ahead and stick with thunders as i’m beginning to get a nice groove in them. :-)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on January 19, 2023, 04:25:36 PM
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
Thank you for the insight and response! I think i’m just going to stick with my thunders as i’m getting a nice groove started on them. I’ll keep the Indy/Ace idea in mind though  :-)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Thebird on January 20, 2023, 06:27:56 AM
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on January 20, 2023, 09:57:26 AM
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
cold outside, warm inside can have this effect
it seems MOB changed something because of Covid (formula or factory change)
or just a bad batch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on January 20, 2023, 10:06:42 AM
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
I only skate Mob and I haven't had this issue at all with mine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 20, 2023, 10:16:08 AM
I've had issues with mob for about 3 boards in a row. I think that the glue needed heat. Like a hairdryer or whatever.

I'm riding jessup rn. Shit is just better. I'm not going back
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Thebird on January 20, 2023, 10:50:47 AM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna switch on my next deck.  It's just happened too much lately.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 20, 2023, 05:38:32 PM
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (don’t know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but don’t want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


Edit:
Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

Edit2:
Would lower bushings lower the truck?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 20, 2023, 08:04:20 PM
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (don’t know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but don’t want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


Edit:
Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

Edit2:
Would lower bushings lower the truck?


Changing the top bushings don't do much at all, besides using a significantly lower top bushing sometimes making the metal top washer stop on the hanger, limiting the turn.

Changing the height of the bottom bushing (or leaving out the bottom washer) will both change the height of the truck and the natural truck geometry, but by how much is dependent on the truck and what bushings you put in.


From that old Nine Club Ishod interview, he uses two top bushings on each truck, which definitely changes things a lot, not to mention blows out pivot cups more frequently, but that is a workable solution to his needs.

In trying the opposite, cutting down the top and putting that bit I cut off with the bottom bushing is an interesting one on old Indy trucks too, which makes them feel a lot more like Ace in the turn of them - so quick.

As to any other things, I know some trucks, like Thunder and Venture especially, if the bottom bushing blows out or compresses so much that the kingpin nut is almost touching the hanger and makes it really hard to get a tool around, which is why I have a spanner handy for those sorts of situations.  They can also feel very different in the turn compared to trucks that have the bottom bushing at full height.


As to Indy baseplates, they only sell the standard baseplates and the inverted kingpin baseplates, both the normal cast height, so if you want forged anything, you have to buy the whole truck set and swap things out, but some people might sell a set of forged baseplates separate to the hangers for whatever reason.  I have picked up a few sets from ebay over the years, the normal ones that is, not any for the new mid trucks with inverted kingpin option.


Indy standard trucks = 55mm tall, 53.5 with forged plates.

Indy mid trucks = 52mm tall, 50.5 with forged plates.

Indy low trucks (which they don't make any more) are about 50 / 48 from when I measured the sets I have, but I can't remember exactly now.

Yes it is all in the hanger, cause they are the same baseplates for whatever options, but the low truck set did have shorter kingpins too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on January 20, 2023, 08:09:57 PM
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (don’t know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but don’t want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


Edit:
Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

Edit2:
Would lower bushings lower the truck?

Not by much, and it will mess up the geo. Low top bushing is fine though, but obviously won't affect the height.
Forged baseplates will lower your trucks by 1.5mm btw.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 21, 2023, 08:51:04 AM
Thanks for the replies! I’ll probably buy a set of forged mid hollow so I have options in height, at least that’s my justification for spending more money
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hotstudios_on_youtube on January 21, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
where is Ellingtons shifty flip ? I just watched his baker 3 and baker has a death wish parts, can't see to find it, currently about to watch all of baker 2g in its entirety
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 21, 2023, 02:41:48 PM
where is Ellingtons shifty flip ? I just watched his baker 3 and baker has a death wish parts, can't see to find it, currently about to watch all of baker 2g in its entirety

From the top of my head, I only remember a shifty flip from Szafranski in Baker 3. I don't remember a shifty flip from Ellington. Maybe in The Deathwish Video? Or in a Shake Junt video? Maybe even in the old Zero video?

Ellington is rad.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on January 22, 2023, 01:29:16 PM
Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 22, 2023, 01:42:59 PM
Trying to find a recent video/ video part. Someone does wallie blunt on the Trader Vic’s hubba in ATL. I thought it was in Play Dead but I can’t find it… any clues?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on January 22, 2023, 10:04:58 PM
Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these

Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads don’t even line up with Indys. I’ve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 22, 2023, 11:20:47 PM
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads don’t even line up with Indys. I’ve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).

From the tactics website in the details of an ace truck:
“ NON-COMPATIBLE RISERS
Risers from the following brands are not compatible with the baseplates of these trucks.

Diamond, Girl, Independent, Loaded, Paris”
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 23, 2023, 02:30:46 PM
Which cupsole has the widest/highest toe area without heel slip? I went down half a size on #420 with no heel slip. However, both my pinky toes are mashed, the toe to the left of the left big toe is swollen, and the center toe on my right foot is almost as bad. The heel slip is bad if I go TTS. Does anyone have any recommendations? I’ve tried using thinner, Stance socks, but it doesn’t help by much. My toes aren’t as swollen but they’re more irritated from the rubbing between the socks and toe area.

Edit (TLDR):
Any recommendations (preferably cupsole) for someone with fat toes but a narrow heel/back foot?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on January 23, 2023, 03:37:37 PM
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads don’t even line up with Indys. I’ve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).

Thanks, I found the same issue with Indy risers not lining up perfectly on Indy's too. Was just hoping to save a couple bucks but oh well. Probably gonna look into some of the real risers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on January 23, 2023, 06:59:13 PM
This has probably been asked before but what is the sizing on the Ishod shoe? Im a size 9 in vans, emerica and lakai but with dunks or adidas I wear an 8.5.
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Post by: rocklobster on January 23, 2023, 09:07:52 PM
This has probably been asked before but what is the sizing on the Ishod shoe? Im a size 9 in vans, emerica and lakai but with dunks or adidas I wear an 8.5.

I got gifted a pair and I'd say they run TTS if you have a regular foot shape. I got a wide foot and got 1/2 a size up, there was a bit too much space at the front of the shoe but the toe box is snug. If I'd gone to my usual 9.5 the length would be right but too tight around the toes. Doesn't help that I have huge bunions.

In general I find Nikes and Adidas to fit narrower feet bests, same applies to their running / skate shoes.
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Post by: BALARGUE on January 24, 2023, 05:11:10 AM
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads don’t even line up with Indys. I’ve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).
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Thanks, I found the same issue with Indy risers not lining up perfectly on Indy's too. Was just hoping to save a couple bucks but oh well. Probably gonna look into some of the real risers.

mini logo pads have oblong holes
they fit and are the cheapest
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on January 24, 2023, 10:35:08 AM
Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 24, 2023, 12:24:19 PM
Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1

I made the mistake of turning the screw instead of the nut on one of those, it tears up the board.  If you keep the screw stationary and turn only the nut it should be good no matter how many times you remove or add the hardware
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Post by: Scottboarding on January 24, 2023, 12:28:56 PM
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Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1
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I made the mistake of turning the screw instead of the nut on one of those, it tears up the board.  If you keep the screw stationary and turn only the nut it should be good no matter how many times you remove or add the hardware
Cool, thanks. My local just got some in and I’m a sucker for gimmicky stuff.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on January 25, 2023, 05:38:31 AM
i don't get it.
i don't see a function in these grippers, i only see those as making way for cracks
just like a splitter when you're chopping wood
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on January 25, 2023, 08:09:49 AM
Which cupsole has the widest/highest toe area without heel slip? I went down half a size on #420 with no heel slip. However, both my pinky toes are mashed, the toe to the left of the left big toe is swollen, and the center toe on my right foot is almost as bad. The heel slip is bad if I go TTS. Does anyone have any recommendations? I’ve tried using thinner, Stance socks, but it doesn’t help by much. My toes aren’t as swollen but they’re more irritated from the rubbing between the socks and toe area.

Edit (TLDR):
Any recommendations (preferably cupsole) for someone with fat toes but a narrow heel/back foot?

You might like the Adidas Pro Model, someone dropped off their lightly used pair at my local and I've been liking them. I laced them up all the way to get great ankle protection and they don't seem to have any heel slippage from that, and of course the shell toes gives you lots of room up front
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Deadringer on January 25, 2023, 09:24:04 AM
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.

I think MOB is trash, not sure if it's just recently but it's awful gripping a board with it and always get persistent air bubbles.

Jessup Ultra is my go-to now and it's just perfect.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 25, 2023, 04:20:30 PM
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Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
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I think MOB is trash, not sure if it's just recently but it's awful gripping a board with it and always get persistent air bubbles.

Jessup Ultra is my go-to now and it's just perfect.

Once a year I grip a board with Mob and for a week I’m constantly pressing it back down. Then I rip that shit off in one pull and regrip with Jessup.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on January 25, 2023, 06:03:20 PM
Skated Mob religiously for years. Save for a temp deck that I got handed in a pinch that had Primitive or grizzly on it.
Never had any of these issues with mob. I'm always surprised to see people having these issues with Mob. Do yall live somewhere really cold and that's causing some of these issues? I'm in southern California so maybe that's why

Mob I got in 2022 and before did none of what these pals described.

Mob is definitely far from trash, though. My personal opinion is that Jessup is pretty bad (though it's likely not as bad I think/remember from skating it). Some of the worst out there, actually (not counting Ultra Grip since that's so new and I haven't tested it).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 26, 2023, 03:51:47 AM
I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?
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Post by: Pasta Monster on January 26, 2023, 04:02:55 AM
I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?
It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 26, 2023, 04:12:31 AM
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I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?
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It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.

Thought so, I guess that's why they gave it away for free.

Another question: Why come that my decks and shoes almost always need replacing at the same time (with one pair of shoes lasting two decks)? I hate having a new deck and new shoes at the same time but this seems to happen inevitably.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on January 26, 2023, 08:38:49 AM
For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

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Post by: manysnakes on January 26, 2023, 08:54:12 AM
For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

I did my best slappy crooks with Ace Classics, I think. I don't know if that's because that's what I was skating when I learned them and started doing them all the time, but that was my experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Acid Drop on January 26, 2023, 03:45:55 PM
What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".
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Post by: Candied cigarettes on January 26, 2023, 03:50:27 PM
For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

I personally found thunders to work really well for slappy krooks. Although like manysnakes that’s what i learned them on so who knows. Venture lows too, they’ve got a great pinch. I find that for slappy krooks the smaller the truck the better (im on 7.75 trucks), because once you lock in, there’s less room for error. Idk I could be full of shit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 26, 2023, 03:56:37 PM
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I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?
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It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.
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Thought so, I guess that's why they gave it away for free.

Another question: Why come that my decks and shoes almost always need replacing at the same time (with one pair of shoes lasting two decks)? I hate having a new deck and new shoes at the same time but this seems to happen inevitably.


Jessup in general is a lot thinner than most other griptape, as well as it sometimes moving on your board in too much heat, or the edges coming away a bit, but I am used to that and wouldn't ride anything else.

Even boards I had set up almost 20 years ago with Jessup still feel exactly the same, so I am stoked on it, as it never loses the grit and stays the same, but the grit is finer than others and a lot of people are not fans of Jessup in general for various reasons.

Any shop or grip can have issues, storage, longevity or other things.  Some old sheets I have just fell off their backing paper as they lost their stick, others are fine and no issues from the same age.

At one point some people were saying it was terrible and I think there was at least one bad batch where the grip would just come apart too easily when I was going to grip boards, but that was a fair while ago now.


As to the shoes and decks question, I think if you stagger your use, get some shoes to a point and put them away ready for a new board if you don't like the new shoes, new board feel, but other times, having that first very chilled week of new board new shoes to wear both in nicely then everything works better for the whole time.

Easier said than done sometimes, but I guess some planning ahead might work to your advantage.  I can't talk - too many shoes and boards so swap and change whenever, but I know when shoes are just perfectly good, a new board is way easier to skate too.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on January 26, 2023, 05:57:59 PM
What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".
How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 26, 2023, 06:08:20 PM
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For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.
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I did my best slappy crooks with Ace Classics, I think. I don't know if that's because that's what I was skating when I learned them and started doing them all the time, but that was my experience.

Thunders for me. Venture grind is too slow/harsh and I have to push them more, Indy pinch isn't as good. But it's really nitpicking
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 26, 2023, 06:17:32 PM
What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

Well no, why the 8" trucks on the 8.8 deck? It might work on a 8" and below deck because of the concave.
If you meant to type 8.75 trucks, then I'm gonna say maybe.

The solution for any size: Grind wheel wells into the deck.

My gf rides 54mm on 8.38 mini logos on 8.25 without risers and it's crazy how there's absolutely no wheelbite when I ride her board, so 56mm would probably still work.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Acid Drop on January 26, 2023, 06:23:18 PM
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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".
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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.

Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.
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Post by: jakeumms on January 26, 2023, 06:32:23 PM
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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".
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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.
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Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.
Max maybe 56mm? 1/8th of an inch translates to just over 3mms so rounding ML trucks up to 51mm plus the 3mm for the risers puts you at 54. Indy signs off on 56mm wheels for their 55m high trucks but you sound pretty light.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 26, 2023, 06:39:39 PM
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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".
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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.
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Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.


It is also down to bushing hardness / truck tightness.

There are people (who skate vert ramps) on 60mm wheels on lowish trucks and never wheelbite, but their bushings are more often on the harder side or there is almost zero turn to their trucks.

Not quite that much for any other more normal skate setup, but if you have tigher trucks or are very light on normal / stock bushings, you can get away with almost anything.


What I would say is set up your board how you want to first, then add a riser (or cut wheel wells) as needed, but don't just charge at whatever you usually do.  Feel it out and see what works or what doesn't work when you just roll or even standing on the spot and lean heel to toe and see if they touch easily or only when you really push down on one side or not at all.

I would only ever add risers if it was needed when I felt that there was too much wheelbite or not enough clearance, as I do starting with the super thin DIY rubber sheet risers for forged plates / lower trucks, or taller risers for other options, eg 2mm risers on normal Thunder trucks with bigger wheels as I am more used to Indy height and clearance, but it doesn't hurt to try a setup first and then add risers as needed afterwards, if you do have issues with clearance or wheelbite.


Might be too much info, but depending on what you have available, or how much effort it is to go somewhere to get risers, longer bolts, or whatever other things you need, start with 1" bolts if you think you need risers and then you can change up / add 1/8" in easily enough to that mix, without having to order something or make a trip to a shop.

Also if you have that as an existing setup and are getting bigger wheels, measure the wheels you have on the board now and then factor in the addition to see if you have more or less clearance than expected.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Acid Drop on January 26, 2023, 06:56:10 PM
I thought they were 47.5mm tall

(https://i.ibb.co/8jskg2Z/Screenshot-2023-01-27-15-35-02.png)

I like riding risers because it gives more turning leverage on carves and makes rolling over things easier and smoother. I think I would like to try a 58mm wheel. If I need to rise the trucks up more I can do that but being only 8 inch I don't want to make them unstable. I will give it more thought. Thank you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 27, 2023, 08:06:00 AM
why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans

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Post by: Idk on January 27, 2023, 08:09:12 AM
why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans
Because 2 years ago only people who knew how good a skate shoe the Halfcab was would buy it. Then Reynolds got on Vans and the pandemic happened and everyone who skated when they were 14 tried to get back into it and it became the trendy hot shoe. Everyone at the skate park has them now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 27, 2023, 08:27:49 AM
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why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans
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Because 2 years ago only people who knew how good a skate shoe the Halfcab was would buy it. Then Reynolds got on Vans and the pandemic happened and everyone who skated when they were 14 tried to get back into it and it became the trendy hot shoe. Everyone at the skate park has them now.

That super underground shoe, The Half Cab.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on January 27, 2023, 08:38:17 AM
does anyone know of a pant like 874s that are 100% cotton?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 27, 2023, 08:51:23 AM
does anyone know of a pant like 874s that are 100% cotton?

Not identical or anything, but Carhartt B11 are pretty similar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 27, 2023, 11:30:33 AM
has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 27, 2023, 12:30:25 PM
has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?

Not a rail but hubba hideout comes to mind.  There’s gotta be one on a rail somewhere
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Post by: backside_frontside on January 27, 2023, 01:21:32 PM
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has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?
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Not a rail but hubba hideout comes to mind.  There’s gotta be one on a rail somewhere

That’s a Neen trick 100%. I feel like he did one in the newest Deathwish full length. Uncrossed I think?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 27, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
yeah marcus mcbride heelflip bs 5050 hubba hideout lol i have seen so many variation like sw heel crook on handrail, nollie heel bs 5-0, heelflip fs 5-0 but cant find that one lol someone claiming to me its nbd . oh also manny did heel varial to 5050 and other variations too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 27, 2023, 02:09:39 PM
yeah marcus mcbride heelflip bs 5050 hubba hideout lol i have seen so many variation like sw heel crook on handrail, nollie heel bs 5-0, heelflip fs 5-0 but cant find that one lol someone claiming to me its nbd . oh also manny did heel varial to 5050 and other variations too

I'm almost positive tiago did a heelflip back 5050 on this one round rail in NYC but I dont remember which video its from
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on January 27, 2023, 07:27:20 PM
For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.
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I learned slappy crooks on Aces and I’m currently skating Ventures.  I actually think pinching them is easier on Ventures.  It (I think do to the geometry of the truck) feels like less effort to fully lock into crooks on Ventures and stay properly locked in.  Obviously Aces (especially the classics) have a bit of a smoother-feeling grind though. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 28, 2023, 02:04:28 AM
Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 28, 2023, 04:45:42 AM
Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.
Option B for me would be the one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 28, 2023, 05:54:33 AM
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Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.
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Option B for me would be the one.

Cheers, that’s exactly what I did. Going to try out the set up now!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on January 28, 2023, 06:58:45 AM
maybe this should go in the wheels thread but is there a shelf life on wheels? guessing not but wondering if it's time to start working through my stash. have a few sets i bought during covid panic that aren't my ideal so i've been keeping them on ice and buying my preferred size shape since i can.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on January 28, 2023, 08:19:34 AM
maybe this should go in the wheels thread but is there a shelf life on wheels? guessing not but wondering if it's time to start working through my stash. have a few sets i bought during covid panic that aren't my ideal so i've been keeping them on ice and buying my preferred size shape since i can.

I wanna hear some other opinions but I’m rolling on pre formula change bones stfs at the moment, they are probably 4 years old and were sitting out of the packaging the whole time and skate fine now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on January 28, 2023, 08:55:21 AM
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maybe this should go in the wheels thread but is there a shelf life on wheels? guessing not but wondering if it's time to start working through my stash. have a few sets i bought during covid panic that aren't my ideal so i've been keeping them on ice and buying my preferred size shape since i can.
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I wanna hear some other opinions but I’m rolling on pre formula change bones stfs at the moment, they are probably 4 years old and were sitting out of the packaging the whole time and skate fine now
As in literally? I knew someone years ago that had a ton of sets of wheels in their freezer because apparently it stopped them going bad. They may of mostly meant kept them white tho cos this was back when Spitfires turned completely yellow really quickly
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 28, 2023, 09:55:08 AM
Dry aged Spitfires are tasty
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on January 28, 2023, 10:19:13 AM
Has anyone used bones race reds in here? Curious if they make your board sound dead like when using regular spacers. I like the idea of not having to deal with washers when swapping wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on January 28, 2023, 10:36:47 AM
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maybe this should go in the wheels thread but is there a shelf life on wheels? guessing not but wondering if it's time to start working through my stash. have a few sets i bought during covid panic that aren't my ideal so i've been keeping them on ice and buying my preferred size shape since i can.
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I wanna hear some other opinions but I’m rolling on pre formula change bones stfs at the moment, they are probably 4 years old and were sitting out of the packaging the whole time and skate fine now

As in literally? I knew someone years ago that had a ton of sets of wheels in their freezer because apparently it stopped them going bad. They may of mostly meant kept them white tho cos this was back when Spitfires turned completely yellow really quickly
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haha! nope, not literally. just in a drawer and passed over for a couple years cuz i'm overly picky :D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 29, 2023, 04:40:27 AM
What are ya all experiences with cupsole shoes bagging/stretching out a bit? DC Manteca in my case.

US 8 is comfy but feels a bit too long.
US 7.5 is perfect on my front foot (right) but a tiny bit too snug on my back foot.

I want my shoes to feel snug for skating but I am aware, that feet doctors would say too chose the slightly bigger size. But they usually don't do Varial Heelflips so...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 29, 2023, 07:09:36 AM
What are ya all experiences with cupsole shoes bagging/stretching out a bit? DC Manteca in my case.

US 8 is comfy but feels a bit too long.
US 7.5 is perfect on my front foot (right) but a tiny bit too snug on my back foot.

I want my shoes to feel snug for skating but I am aware, that feet doctors would say too chose the slightly bigger size. But they usually don't do Varial Heelflips so...

I'd go snug and walk around the house or use them as chillers for a few days, they usually break in just right by then. They will stretch out a bit more towards the end of the life, but I prefer a more secure fit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: downtodevin on January 29, 2023, 07:24:40 AM
What are your favorite inexpensive decks? I’m looking to build a new setup but I’m broke. Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 29, 2023, 07:25:55 AM
So I got 2 sheets of Reynolds shake junt grip. I walk into the garage and the board is hanging on the wall and grip came unpeeled and then gravity pulled it halfway down the board. I regripped with sheet 2 and same thing. Anyone have this issue with any grip ever? I can't think of a time I've had it just fall off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 29, 2023, 08:56:55 AM
What are your favorite inexpensive decks? I’m looking to build a new setup but I’m broke. Thanks!

Take a look at 303 Boards, they have 25% off most of the site with decks at $43 before the discount.

Dwindle (Thank You Supply) has Resin 7 decks for under $30 too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 29, 2023, 09:45:41 AM
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What are ya all experiences with cupsole shoes bagging/stretching out a bit? DC Manteca in my case.

US 8 is comfy but feels a bit too long.
US 7.5 is perfect on my front foot (right) but a tiny bit too snug on my back foot.

I want my shoes to feel snug for skating but I am aware, that feet doctors would say too chose the slightly bigger size. But they usually don't do Varial Heelflips so...
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I'd go snug and walk around the house or use them as chillers for a few days, they usually break in just right by then. They will stretch out a bit more towards the end of the life, but I prefer a more secure fit.

Thanks mate and have a gnar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on January 29, 2023, 11:59:01 AM
Has anyone used bones race reds in here? Curious if they make your board sound dead like when using regular spacers. I like the idea of not having to deal with washers when swapping wheels.

I really enjoy these. Some people like to tighten the nut against them (I think they’re geared for downhillers/longboarders and such), which probably does make them sound a little dead, but I think they have a typical clickity-clack as long as you leave the normal wiggle room on the axle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on January 30, 2023, 12:07:30 AM
Classic one; how do i upload normal sizes pics and not have them thumbnail small?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on January 30, 2023, 01:52:47 AM
Classic one; how do i upload normal sizes pics and not have them thumbnail small?

I use imgur
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on January 30, 2023, 02:02:29 AM
Classic one; how do i upload normal sizes pics and not have them thumbnail small?

I upload it on imgbb.com, click on the image until you get the URL with .jpg in there and then place that between [img] tags.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on January 30, 2023, 06:26:10 AM
So I do a lot of noseslides. I tend to wear the baseplate to the pivot cup after about six months. Saved the back baseplate from my last set to switch em out. Before the madness sets in, any tips for switching out pivot cups? Haven’t done it since I was a kid and I remember it being a nightmare but don’t wanna sacrifice my turn. Should I just buy aftermarket?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on January 30, 2023, 06:49:28 AM
So I do a lot of noseslides. I tend to wear the baseplate to the pivot cup after about six months. Saved the back baseplate from my last set to switch em out. Before the madness sets in, any tips for switching out pivot cups? Haven’t done it since I was a kid and I remember it being a nightmare but don’t wanna sacrifice my turn. Should I just buy aftermarket?
Get a flat head screw driver and go at it from an angle and it should pop out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sammich on January 30, 2023, 09:41:15 AM
Anyone know if the new Vans Zahbas are actual cupsoles? Not like the Crocketts that are heel cup, front vulc? Tore my PCL last year and my vulc time has probably come to an end
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 30, 2023, 10:09:21 AM
What are your favorite inexpensive decks? I’m looking to build a new setup but I’m broke. Thanks!

Tactics shop decks (https://www.tactics.com/tactics/skateboard-decks/sort-3) are high quality BBS models. There are frequent sales where they come out to like ~$30 each with a sheet of grip, and they do free shipping at $60, so if you can afford two it saves you quite a bit on that end.

Keep an eye on the sale thread, too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 30, 2023, 11:36:32 AM
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What are your favorite inexpensive decks? I’m looking to build a new setup but I’m broke. Thanks!
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Tactics shop decks (https://www.tactics.com/tactics/skateboard-decks/sort-3) are high quality BBS models. There are frequent sales where they come out to like ~$30 each with a sheet of grip, and they do free shipping at $60, so if you can afford two it saves you quite a bit on that end.

Keep an eye on the sale thread, too.
303 has a 25% sale that applies to sale decks that are also BBS. It’s about $34 for a deck and sheet of Jessup shipped. I like PS Stix boards for two weeks and hate them after that. If you like them and are willing to take the time to sand them, or paint over them, Pizza boards are $25 on The Drop. There’s 20% off perpetually but I don’t know how much grip/shipping costs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 31, 2023, 06:12:05 AM
has anyone here ever been to Tampa Pro before? My friend is going and he was wondering if there is any deals to buy skateboard gear there at the contest, and what the prices are like (any deals? or is it same as going to skate shop?) im guessing something like spitfires or dragon wheels there is never any deal on lol always paying full price?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: arrbee on January 31, 2023, 07:13:23 AM
has anyone here ever been to Tampa Pro before? My friend is going and he was wondering if there is any deals to buy skateboard gear there at the contest, and what the prices are like (any deals? or is it same as going to skate shop?) im guessing something like spitfires or dragon wheels there is never any deal on lol always paying full price?

Whatever is listed as "on sale" on their site is about it. The sponsors used to set up tents in the back and give out promo stuff, not sure if they still do that. Might catch a pro giving out stuff they don't want to fly home with.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 31, 2023, 09:52:00 AM
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has anyone here ever been to Tampa Pro before? My friend is going and he was wondering if there is any deals to buy skateboard gear there at the contest, and what the prices are like (any deals? or is it same as going to skate shop?) im guessing something like spitfires or dragon wheels there is never any deal on lol always paying full price?
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Whatever is listed as "on sale" on their site is about it. The sponsors used to set up tents in the back and give out promo stuff, not sure if they still do that. Might catch a pro giving out stuff they don't want to fly home with.

thanks. basically if anyone cares - you could save maybe $5-10 CAD on wheels / shoes for the most part
if you are willing to look through the weird shapes / sizes, you could probably save $30-40 CAD on a deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alraunen on January 31, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Has anyone used bones race reds in here? Curious if they make your board sound dead like when using regular spacers. I like the idea of not having to deal with washers when swapping wheels.

Hated them, I didn't find anything special of having the spacers bulit in vs regular ones and they lasted a few months.

Also once one get broke it's weird to put another regular one with the race bearing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kneebone on January 31, 2023, 12:09:03 PM
Anyone know what's up with this new Shake Junt "Black Onyx" grip? Is it just a deeper black color? Different grit? No other info available besides the "new formula" label, and it's available thru SoCal.  I imagine more info will come out once the Spring '23 catalog is officially released
https://socalskateshop.com/Shake-Junt-Black-Onyx-Skateboard-Griptape-Black-9x33.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: badger. on January 31, 2023, 11:27:30 PM
I rolled the shit out of my ankle 2 months ago, and am looking at another 2 months of physio before I'll be skating again.

I plan on wearing a Bauerfeind ankle brace when get back into it, but I'm not sure whether I should be looking at a cupsole shoe for the extra support, or a vulc for the thinner sole (I've seen it suggested that a thinner sole means you're less likely to roll your ankle, which makes sense).

Any thoughts or suggestions? Either on the general question, or for specific shoes.

Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 01, 2023, 12:39:47 AM
I've fucked my ankles in both cup / vulc, maybe others can speak more about heel lift and getting a secure fit.

More important than shoes is the rehab, strength and conditioning you do in your off time to speed up the recovery and reduce the impact of the next injury. Get some ankle bands and get those ankle flicks in, check out Dr Kyle Brown on Insta too for the exercises.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: badger. on February 01, 2023, 01:02:37 AM
Thanks, rocklobster. Yeah, I'm taking the rehab seriously, doing all that I can to build up strength and stability. Just want to do whatever I can to reduce the chance of it happening again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on February 01, 2023, 03:26:04 AM
Best of luck with your recovery! I worked as an athletic performance coach for 5+ years, so I'm throwing in my 2 cents.
Proper recovery and continued strength training are indeed by far the most important things you can do for you ankle. But the reality of the matter is that rolled ankles are by far the most common sports-related injury, and there's simply no way to completely prevent them unless you plan on skating in ski boots. If the forces that supinate (="roll") your ankle are high enough to damage tissue, they won't be stopped or even mitigated by flexible braces or high tops.
There are a lot of wannabe experts and self-proclaimed gurus in the fitness and rehab space who claim to have figured it all out, but the data clearly demonstrates that injuries simply happen and there's little we can do about that. Research on the influence of footwear on injury occurrences in various sports reliably shows that there are no significant differences between different types of shoes, e.g. flat vs. [slightly] elevated heel, hard vs. soft sole, low top vs. high top etc. Of course that doesn't mean that you should go skating in high heels or plateau boots, but in regards to "normal" skate shoes, you can choose what you're most comfortable with. If that's a high top cupsole plus an ankle brace, go for it, but it's not necessary. You can just as well go with a slip-on vulc if that's more to your liking.

tl;dr: Wear what provides you the most comfort and confidence. It's all up to personal preference, there is no "best" shoe to prevent rolling an ankle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 01, 2023, 03:51:33 AM
Saw an ankle surgeon years ago that hated all shoes with built up heels/air bubbles/gels and foams whatever. Basically they might be ok for walking or running but anytime your foot is going sideways (like 99% of the time youre skateboarding) it just increases the chance of your ankle turning over. Now this was an older guy and it was also about 16 years ago now so maybe it's completely out of date way of thinking but they did help me recover without needing surgery.
So more important than cup vs vulc is your foot not wiggling around inside the shoe and your ankle being at a natural angle. Altho unfortunately every shoe is going to have a downside so you get it snug but you might get issues with your toes, get it low and no cushion  etc etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 01, 2023, 01:48:11 PM
what makes a thin cupsole preferable to a thick vulc shoe?

I don’t know but I tried the AVE pros and they were comfortable and light but for skating I couldn’t get used to them just like other cupsoles
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on February 01, 2023, 03:19:30 PM
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I don’t know but I tried the AVE pros and they were comfortable and light but for skating I couldn’t get used to them just like other cupsoles
The Ave skates amazing for me, I love them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swellbowed on February 01, 2023, 03:50:55 PM
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I don’t know but I tried the AVE pros and they were comfortable and light but for skating I couldn’t get used to them just like other cupsoles
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The Ave skates amazing for me, I love them.
Same here, big fan of 'em
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on February 01, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
what makes a thin cupsole preferable to a thick vulc shoe?
As someone that has only skated thinner cupsoles for the last few years, the difference is mostly in my head. It makes me feel more secure knowing I'm skating a cupsole even if it's barely different from skating a thicker vulc. Makes a difference at least for me!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfakie on February 01, 2023, 05:34:54 PM
what makes a thin cupsole preferable to a thick vulc shoe?

ive never heard of 'thin' being used as a buzzword for a cupsole shoe before (as with thick vulc)

you have any examples of this? ive always wanted a thinner cupsole just because i like the way cupsoles look when stitched around the top
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: chris. on February 01, 2023, 05:52:43 PM
That’s pretty much the whole selling point if the BB 440
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on February 01, 2023, 08:38:47 PM
what makes a thin cupsole preferable to a thick vulc shoe?

You're asking what type of material is used to make a thin cupsole? or shoe brands that has a thin cupsole?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 01, 2023, 10:12:28 PM
For me the cup still has an actual midsole and the rear of the shoe protects my heel. It will keep its shape better over time as well. A 440 is thin but I can slam my heel into the ground full force and be fine but a Half Cab with Pop Cush can bottom out after a while. A 440 with Superfeet insole leaves me less sore than a Half Cab or even Crockett. With that said the Crocketts still had mediocre heels for a cup. Oh, and less in the front which some people like the flick of.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: badger. on February 01, 2023, 11:51:28 PM
Thanks heaps, scab and Mean Salto! Good to hear that the type and cut of shoe is really less significant a factor than I'd thought it might be - will just go for comfort and getting a good fit with the shoes, but keep focusing more on the rehab.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on February 02, 2023, 01:09:17 AM
Just got a Caballero Street Dragon reissue and i plan on using film trucks on it.
The board is drilled old school and trucks with 4 holes won't work unless i redrill board OR baseplates (Film trucks don't have those 6 holes baseplates they had back in the days).
I think it's easier to redrill the board rather than the baseplates (and 6 holes baseplates are weaker).
i'll use an indy 6 holes baseplate as a template (mounted on the board, it will guide where the holes should be).
I'm not too worried the board would be weaker with 6 holes but let me know if it's a bad idea
Any advice pals ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 02, 2023, 04:21:36 AM
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I don’t know but I tried the AVE pros and they were comfortable and light but for skating I couldn’t get used to them just like other cupsoles
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The Ave skates amazing for me, I love them.
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Same here, big fan of 'em

Yup. My favorite shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 02, 2023, 04:23:34 AM
Just got a Caballero Street Dragon reissue and i plan on using film trucks on it.
The board is drilled old school and trucks with 4 holes won't work unless i redrill board OR baseplates (Film trucks don't have those 6 holes baseplates they had back in the days).
I think it's easier to redrill the board rather than the baseplates (and 6 holes baseplates are weaker).
i'll use an indy 6 holes baseplate as a template (mounted on the board, it will guide where the holes should be).
I'm not too worried the board would be weaker with 6 holes but let me know if it's a bad idea
Any advice pals ?

Plenty of boards come this way. I'm sure that there's some small way in which the board is now weaker for having extra holes, but there's no way this is going to matter in the life of a skateboard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 02, 2023, 06:52:45 AM
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I don’t know but I tried the AVE pros and they were comfortable and light but for skating I couldn’t get used to them just like other cupsoles
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The Ave skates amazing for me, I love them.
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Same here, big fan of 'em
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Yup. My favorite shoe.

Really is a great shoe. I think I stopped skating then after a few pairs because I never loved the look. Better than what I use now tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on February 02, 2023, 09:04:53 AM
Just got a Caballero Street Dragon reissue and i plan on using film trucks on it.
The board is drilled old school and trucks with 4 holes won't work unless i redrill board OR baseplates (Film trucks don't have those 6 holes baseplates they had back in the days).
I think it's easier to redrill the board rather than the baseplates (and 6 holes baseplates are weaker).
i'll use an indy 6 holes baseplate as a template (mounted on the board, it will guide where the holes should be).
I'm not too worried the board would be weaker with 6 holes but let me know if it's a bad idea
Any advice pals ?

Go for it. People re-drill truck holes all the time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 02, 2023, 04:30:14 PM
Just got a Caballero Street Dragon reissue and i plan on using film trucks on it.
The board is drilled old school and trucks with 4 holes won't work unless i redrill board OR baseplates (Film trucks don't have those 6 holes baseplates they had back in the days).
I think it's easier to redrill the board rather than the baseplates (and 6 holes baseplates are weaker).
i'll use an indy 6 holes baseplate as a template (mounted on the board, it will guide where the holes should be).
I'm not too worried the board would be weaker with 6 holes but let me know if it's a bad idea
Any advice pals ?


I think as you have it and others have said, that is the best and easiest way to ensure you get the right position for the truck holes.

Just go slow and steady drilling and make sure the drill is going in straight and you shouldn't have any issues.

Before you do drill though, now would be the perfect time to check the wheelbase, kicks or see if you want to drill the holes in or out on either truck position, if you get what I am saying?

Some of those boards had such long wheelbases, or for others, not long enough, depending on your perspective, but the simplest solution would be using the existing holes and drilling in the new holes for the regular baseplate position.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on February 02, 2023, 10:02:53 PM
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Just got a Caballero Street Dragon reissue and i plan on using film trucks on it.
The board is drilled old school and trucks with 4 holes won't work unless i redrill board OR baseplates (Film trucks don't have those 6 holes baseplates they had back in the days).
I think it's easier to redrill the board rather than the baseplates (and 6 holes baseplates are weaker).
i'll use an indy 6 holes baseplate as a template (mounted on the board, it will guide where the holes should be).
I'm not too worried the board would be weaker with 6 holes but let me know if it's a bad idea
Any advice pals ?
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I think as you have it and others have said, that is the best and easiest way to ensure you get the right position for the truck holes.

Just go slow and steady drilling and make sure the drill is going in straight and you shouldn't have any issues.

Before you do drill though, now would be the perfect time to check the wheelbase, kicks or see if you want to drill the holes in or out on either truck position, if you get what I am saying?

Some of those boards had such long wheelbases, or for others, not long enough, depending on your perspective, but the simplest solution would be using the existing holes and drilling in the new holes for the regular baseplate position.

I recommend filling the unused holes with wood glue or epoxy.
Prevents the 3/8" space between the holes rip through.
Somewhere on slap I posted a picture where this happened to a deck I've redrilled.

Edit: Found it.
WBSB Thread Post 459
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on February 03, 2023, 03:11:04 AM
Thanks guys
went for the drilling and it looks fine. i'm not concerned about it making the board weaker. it's not like this board will see huge impacts and the board is quite thick
A quick tip i read somewhere, put some tape where the drill will exit to avoid chips.
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Post by: munchbox on February 05, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
dap plastic wood is supposed to dry 3x stronger than pine
dont know how that scales to maple, im no wood watcher
but sounds like a safe bet for basically $10
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: my bad cuh on February 06, 2023, 10:08:58 AM
no way in hell this board is 8.6x14.5
has to be a mistake right? if not i gotta do some research
https://bakerskateboards.com/products/brand-logo-4?variant=39322286784615
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Esquivel on February 06, 2023, 10:33:26 AM
no way in hell this board is 8.6x14.5
has to be a mistake right? if not i gotta do some research
https://bakerskateboards.com/products/brand-logo-4?variant=39322286784615

It probably is the wheelbase length.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 06, 2023, 02:57:20 PM
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no way in hell this board is 8.6x14.5
has to be a mistake right? if not i gotta do some research
https://bakerskateboards.com/products/brand-logo-4?variant=39322286784615
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It probably is the wheelbase length.


Yes, I think they were the same dimensions as the 8.5 only a touch wider, so 8.6 x 32 with 14.5 wheelbase.


There is another shorter Bakerboys Dist shape which comes in about 8.6 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb but I have only seen one of those and it might have been a special edition more than anything else.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 06, 2023, 03:29:45 PM
8.6 x 14.5 would make a good wall hanger
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: my bad cuh on February 06, 2023, 05:13:18 PM
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no way in hell this board is 8.6x14.5
has to be a mistake right? if not i gotta do some research
https://bakerskateboards.com/products/brand-logo-4?variant=39322286784615
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It probably is the wheelbase length.
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Yes, I think they were the same dimensions as the 8.5 only a touch wider, so 8.6 x 32 with 14.5 wheelbase.


There is another shorter Bakerboys Dist shape which comes in about 8.6 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb but I have only seen one of those and it might have been a special edition more than anything else.
was it ever discussed what size board kader was riding when he was younger? 8.6 maybe seems like it may have been a little skinny for him but super short and wide with the tiny wheelbase seems very 2016-2019 kader esque, maybe could have been like a special shape for him?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 06, 2023, 05:40:01 PM
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no way in hell this board is 8.6x14.5
has to be a mistake right? if not i gotta do some research
https://bakerskateboards.com/products/brand-logo-4?variant=39322286784615
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It probably is the wheelbase length.
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Yes, I think they were the same dimensions as the 8.5 only a touch wider, so 8.6 x 32 with 14.5 wheelbase.


There is another shorter Bakerboys Dist shape which comes in about 8.6 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb but I have only seen one of those and it might have been a special edition more than anything else.
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was it ever discussed what size board kader was riding when he was younger? 8.6 maybe seems like it may have been a little skinny for him but super short and wide with the tiny wheelbase seems very 2016-2019 kader esque, maybe could have been like a special shape for him?
kader ran the 9/32 board with a 14wb drilled for him
jake hayes rides a deathwish 8.6 with a 14.25wb so probably him
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on February 07, 2023, 03:15:50 PM
What shoes are better cons or last resort. Was ask in the last resort thread but I want a unbiased opinion
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 07, 2023, 03:31:17 PM
What shoes are better cons or last resort. Was ask in the last resort thread but I want a unbiased opinion

I had the louie lopez cons and I liked them a lot. I also have a couple pairs of LRAB and I like them too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 08, 2023, 05:09:38 PM
I used to ride boards backwards as a little kid, felt like trying it out again.  Besides the nose and tail being different lengths, is there anything asymmetric about a popsicle deck that might have an effect if you flip it around and ride the nose as the tail?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 08, 2023, 05:57:14 PM
I used to ride boards backwards as a little kid, felt like trying it out again.  Besides the nose and tail being different lengths, is there anything asymmetric about a popsicle deck that might have an effect if you flip it around and ride the nose as the tail?


Nose on most woodshops is a little steeper, tail a little less, so some people find things work better off the nose, others off the tail.

Besides the shape and usual almost or around 7" nose and more like 6.5" tail, noses can also sometimes be way more full and rounded compared to tails, so a pointy tail board might be a very different flick point than the big round nose on the same board, if you were riding it backwards.

More than anything, it is down to the individual board, as well as the individual person, but give it a go and see how it works.


Was it Ryan Decenzo that always rides boards backwards for everything - look him up and see how well he skates it backwards, just as an example.

For others, OCD or just feeling wrong have a lot to do with it, but I like pop shovs off the nose more than the tail and everything else the normal way round.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 08, 2023, 07:41:32 PM
I used to ride boards backwards as a little kid, felt like trying it out again.  Besides the nose and tail being different lengths, is there anything asymmetric about a popsicle deck that might have an effect if you flip it around and ride the nose as the tail?

I used to only be able to do kickflips when popping off my nose, the steepness of the nose helped me get a lot of height on them at the expense of control. Very high but rocket flips and I had to flick off a lot harder than if I'd pp off my tail like normal.

Some pros rise off their nose when doing switch tricks, maybe it emulates the board feel of Nollie tricks but switch.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 08, 2023, 08:47:22 PM
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I used to ride boards backwards as a little kid, felt like trying it out again.  Besides the nose and tail being different lengths, is there anything asymmetric about a popsicle deck that might have an effect if you flip it around and ride the nose as the tail?
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I used to only be able to do kickflips when popping off my nose, the steepness of the nose helped me get a lot of height on them at the expense of control. Very high but rocket flips and I had to flick off a lot harder than if I'd pp off my tail like normal.

Some pros rise off their nose when doing switch tricks, maybe it emulates the board feel of Nollie tricks but switch.

That’s a possibility now that you mention it, I never thought about that.  I always had a loftier switch Ollie going off the nose and I think a lot of people that skate switch a lot have that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on February 08, 2023, 08:54:47 PM
Used to do the backwards board a bit. I think maybe I thought the big kick was supposed to be at the back like an 80s board and looking down it looked more correct to me than having the big round end at the front and the little pointy end at the back. I think I found it harder to get good scoop on 180 and 360 tricks. I did find it way easier to manual on the tail tho and if I was going to do a nosegrind/nosemanuals I'd ride the board backwards
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pops on February 08, 2023, 09:16:25 PM
How do the Emerica Ksl g6 fit compared to gammas? I really like how the gammas fit an feel and would like to cop a pair of ksl as well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 09, 2023, 01:49:12 AM
When do you guys change out your bushings? I've been using cracked stock Venture bushings for months, swapping them between the 5.6 / 5.8, medium tightness with no threads showing. Only recently do I feel them getting too twitchy to the point I'm ghost popping on a lot of tricks, had to tighten the kingpin buy 1/2 a rotation just to feel stable.

Am I overthinking a sub-optimal session? The bushings haven't disintegrated completely nor are they missing chunks but I see visible cracks on the top and bottom ones.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 09, 2023, 02:39:45 AM
When do you guys change out your bushings? I've been using cracked stock Venture bushings for months, swapping them between the 5.6 / 5.8, medium tightness with no threads showing. Only recently do I feel them getting too twitchy to the point I'm ghost popping on a lot of tricks, had to tighten the kingpin buy 1/2 a rotation just to feel stable.

Am I overthinking a sub-optimal session? The bushings haven't disintegrated completely nor are they missing chunks but I see visible cracks on the top and bottom ones.

If they're not missing chunks and you just see cracks I think they're still okay for a bit. But a swap is definitely valid, especially if its affecting your skating
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ambiguousclarity on February 09, 2023, 03:11:57 AM
Has anyone used bones race reds in here? Curious if they make your board sound dead like when using regular spacers. I like the idea of not having to deal with washers when swapping wheels.

I use them for that reason. Keep them loose like you would when using regular bearings and they sound the same. Tighten them so there’s no movement and you’ll be stealthy and lose that sweet screeching sound synonymous with skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on February 09, 2023, 09:06:50 AM
I got a sponsored set of Bones Stf 99A V4 Wide 53mm.
I ride spitfire exclusively, I prefer radials. 99A.
They are still in shrink and now I wonder if I should sell them or ride them. How are they compared to spits radials ? Thanks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 09, 2023, 12:13:27 PM
I got a sponsored set of Bones Stf 99A V4 Wide 53mm.
I ride spitfire exclusively, I prefer radials. 99A.
They are still in shrink and now I wonder if I should sell them or ride them. How are they compared to spits radials ? Thanks.

Sell them. Bones 99a sucks. The new 97, and the 103 are great, don't get me wrong, BUT THE 99 SUCK.

They're the anti-dragons: They ride like a hard wheel, while sticking like a soft wheel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2023, 01:09:24 PM
What shoes are better cons or last resort. Was ask in the last resort thread but I want a unbiased opinion

I had both, prefer neither, but Cons by a mile.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 09, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Just read about running shoes having a shelf life. Looking at my stack of shoe boxes...
Do skate shoes go bad?
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Post by: vicious cycle on February 09, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
Just read about running shoes having a shelf life. Looking at my stack of shoe boxes...
Do skate shoes go bad?
If running shoes go bad, I'm pretty sure skate shoes do too. But I think stored correctly in a box and without to much heat/cold they will last longer than I will be able to skate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on February 09, 2023, 02:22:46 PM
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I got a sponsored set of Bones Stf 99A V4 Wide 53mm.
I ride spitfire exclusively, I prefer radials. 99A.
They are still in shrink and now I wonder if I should sell them or ride them. How are they compared to spits radials ? Thanks.
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Sell them. Bones 99a sucks. The new 97, and the 103 are great, don't get me wrong, BUT THE 99 SUCK.

They're the anti-dragons: They ride like a hard wheel, while sticking like a soft wheel.
So they would be great for indoor wood parks then maybe ? My winter indoor is super slick..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 09, 2023, 06:24:11 PM
do the g6 insoles have good forefoot cushioning?
preface: im tall/heavy and want more impact dampening
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2023, 07:40:45 PM
do the g6 insoles have good forefoot cushioning?
preface: im tall/heavy and want more impact dampening


They were a bit on the thicker side right through when I compared them to others that go from higher heel to thinner toe, with some other people I skate with swearing by them in every shoe, but they didn't feel particularly spongy overall, maybe more so because the Emerica shoes had such thin soles when I tried on shoes with them in there.

If you can go anywhere that has any of the shoes just to see them, I think you might find them to your liking and I know you can buy the insoles as a stand alone product.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 09, 2023, 09:28:34 PM
If you park in the kicks do they spring back after at all? Asking for a friend that might have overdone it and now has an extremely flat deck.
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Post by: Mean salto on February 09, 2023, 11:20:50 PM
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Do skate shoes go bad?
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If running shoes go bad, I'm pretty sure skate shoes do too. But I think stored correctly in a box and without to much heat/cold they will last longer than I will be able to skate.
I checked recently on some DC's I've got (Mike mo, Cole lites) and some other random stuff I've got all about 10-12 years old and seems to still be ok. I think it's really just the foam midsoles you need to worry about unless they're shoes you've worn for a bit then for whatever reason put away. I've had this happen with vulc and the soles turn into hard plastic but unworn stay good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on February 09, 2023, 11:29:42 PM
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Just read about running shoes having a shelf life. Looking at my stack of shoe boxes...
Do skate shoes go bad?
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If running shoes go bad, I'm pretty sure skate shoes do too. But I think stored correctly in a box and without to much heat/cold they will last longer than I will be able to skate.
It’s called hydrolysis. Wearing them actually prevents this from happening

Related article:

https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/sneaker-soles-crumbling-trend/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 10, 2023, 07:02:20 AM
I always notice in the shoes you are wearing thread everyone seems to keep their laces pretty loose. I have a narrow foot so my laces are always a bit tighter looking than what I usually see ( not Rambo laced by any means).My question is this: Is there an advantage performance wise to skating in a shoe with the laces that loose or are you guys tying them a little tighter when you get around to skating them?
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Post by: TwisT on February 10, 2023, 07:49:30 AM
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Just read about running shoes having a shelf life. Looking at my stack of shoe boxes...
Do skate shoes go bad?
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If running shoes go bad, I'm pretty sure skate shoes do too. But I think stored correctly in a box and without to much heat/cold they will last longer than I will be able to skate.
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It’s called hydrolysis. Wearing them actually prevents this from happening

Related article:

https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/sneaker-soles-crumbling-trend/

I bought a couple pair of 2007-2010 era skate shoes and they feel apart.

DGK RBK and some lakai mariano's.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 10, 2023, 07:54:13 AM
https://youtu.be/26Mzg7gEjbw

Do you remember?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on February 10, 2023, 09:50:58 AM
Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on February 10, 2023, 10:08:32 AM
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Just read about running shoes having a shelf life. Looking at my stack of shoe boxes...
Do skate shoes go bad?
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If running shoes go bad, I'm pretty sure skate shoes do too. But I think stored correctly in a box and without to much heat/cold they will last longer than I will be able to skate.
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It’s called hydrolysis. Wearing them actually prevents this from happening

Related article:

https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/sneaker-soles-crumbling-trend/
Interesting. If I would be a reseller sitting on my dunks I would be very nervous now..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on February 10, 2023, 11:37:22 AM
Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less

I ran a set. I didn't notice the difference. They definitely got smushed and began falling apart. Being an idiot, I loosened my bolts thinking it would make a difference and it messed up my baseplates and skating was off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 10, 2023, 04:36:23 PM
If you park in the kicks do they spring back after at all? Asking for a friend that might have overdone it and now has an extremely flat deck.


Yes they come back a lot in 24-48 hours, some boards a lot more than others.

At first I was horrified that I had ruined a board after leaving it for too long, but it came back nicely - sort of gave up on it and left it for a week, but when I set it up, it felt really good.

Even just standing on them sometimes will not get a true representation of how it will feel once you put trucks on, but if it feels too mellow, try Ventures and it might feel a lot better - based on you saying you had Ventures, that is, but I can't remember the details right this minute and didn't go looking at your history.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 11, 2023, 06:25:00 AM
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Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less
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I ran a set. I didn't notice the difference. They definitely got smushed and began falling apart. Being an idiot, I loosened my bolts thinking it would make a difference and it messed up my baseplates and skating was off.

They mainly exist to keep hardware from rattling loose. I’ve found them helpful to get about a millimeter of lift to get forged baseplates closer to cast height and feel less tin-y. No impact absorption whatsoever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on February 11, 2023, 07:38:02 AM
I always notice in the shoes you are wearing thread everyone seems to keep their laces pretty loose. I have a narrow foot so my laces are always a bit tighter looking than what I usually see ( not Rambo laced by any means).My question is this: Is there an advantage performance wise to skating in a shoe with the laces that loose or are you guys tying them a little tighter when you get around to skating them?

I tighten my laces a lot for skating to prevent my foot from jiggling around. A secure fit is definitely better for performance, but loose laces look much better imo, so I keep 'em loose whenever I'm not skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 11, 2023, 04:51:12 PM
I always notice in the shoes you are wearing thread everyone seems to keep their laces pretty loose. I have a narrow foot so my laces are always a bit tighter looking than what I usually see ( not Rambo laced by any means).My question is this: Is there an advantage performance wise to skating in a shoe with the laces that loose or are you guys tying them a little tighter when you get around to skating them?

I've found that my kickflips work much better with flexible shoes, and not lacing them tight gives a bit more flex to any shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 11, 2023, 04:54:02 PM
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I always notice in the shoes you are wearing thread everyone seems to keep their laces pretty loose. I have a narrow foot so my laces are always a bit tighter looking than what I usually see ( not Rambo laced by any means).My question is this: Is there an advantage performance wise to skating in a shoe with the laces that loose or are you guys tying them a little tighter when you get around to skating them?
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I tighten my laces a lot for skating to prevent my foot from jiggling around. A secure fit is definitely better for performance, but loose laces look much better imo, so I keep 'em loose whenever I'm not skating.


I have very flat feet, so for most shoes I need to put an extra tongue in under what is in there, almost always a Half Cab tongue as I had a lot of Half Cabs over the years (but never needed to beef them up at all) so once I have done this, it looks more normal and not at all puffy or blown out.  Without the extra tongue, usually the sides of the laces area would almost be overlapping with a ton of spare shoe lace and look pretty funny, to say the least.

People used to do this to all shoes and big thick puffy tongues were the only way to go mid 2000s or so, almost too much but I am not here to talk about various fashion styles.


The weird thing is a lot of others I know almost have the opposite problem, where their feet are so tall and thick that they always have what looks like loose laces, when in fact they are almost too tight on their feet when laced up like mine so have to wear them with a lot more lace across, giving that look you mention.

That is not to say that when not skating (or even some while skating too), people don't loosen up their laces, like my Half Cabs are almost like slip ons when I am not skating, but different feet can give a very different look too.


I also add a thin extra insole sometimes too, the kind of thin flat foam thing from a $2 store or department store, which also helps my foot fit in some shoes better, so that might work too.  I put it under everything else, but you can put it on top easily enough too.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on February 11, 2023, 05:21:50 PM
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Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less
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I ran a set. I didn't notice the difference. They definitely got smushed and began falling apart. Being an idiot, I loosened my bolts thinking it would make a difference and it messed up my baseplates and skating was off.
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They mainly exist to keep hardware from rattling loose. I’ve found them helpful to get about a millimeter of lift to get forged baseplates closer to cast height and feel less tin-y. No impact absorption whatsoever.

Thanks for the input troops

I guess that leads me to a new question: I want to reduce my board vibrating like fuck whenever I ride places- would shock pads even help with this? Or should I just put up with the vibration. I've always assumed shock pads and risers are a noob trap (unless you're riding wheels bigger than 53 mm)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 11, 2023, 05:41:35 PM
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Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less
[close]

I ran a set. I didn't notice the difference. They definitely got smushed and began falling apart. Being an idiot, I loosened my bolts thinking it would make a difference and it messed up my baseplates and skating was off.
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They mainly exist to keep hardware from rattling loose. I’ve found them helpful to get about a millimeter of lift to get forged baseplates closer to cast height and feel less tin-y. No impact absorption whatsoever.
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Thanks for the input troops

I guess that leads me to a new question: I want to reduce my board vibrating like fuck whenever I ride places- would shock pads even help with this? Or should I just put up with the vibration. I've always assumed shock pads and risers are a noob trap (unless you're riding wheels bigger than 53 mm)


A lot of people cut up a bike tube (or any other thin rubber sheet scrap) to fit under the trucks and it works well, minimum height addition, maybe 1mm tops, which generally speaking does the job and reduces vibration of the hard metal of the baseplate on the wood.

It is not hard to do, easy to cut up and will fit with almost any bolts too.

An option anyway, but buying a set of those pre made thin rubber pads is easier for some people too.


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Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 11, 2023, 05:51:32 PM
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Anyone have Dooks (the 1/16) silencers?
How are they? I'm thinking I might cop as the ground near mine is rough as fuck and I want something to make the ride rattle my teeth less
[close]

I ran a set. I didn't notice the difference. They definitely got smushed and began falling apart. Being an idiot, I loosened my bolts thinking it would make a difference and it messed up my baseplates and skating was off.
[close]

They mainly exist to keep hardware from rattling loose. I’ve found them helpful to get about a millimeter of lift to get forged baseplates closer to cast height and feel less tin-y. No impact absorption whatsoever.
[close]

Thanks for the input troops

I guess that leads me to a new question: I want to reduce my board vibrating like fuck whenever I ride places- would shock pads even help with this? Or should I just put up with the vibration. I've always assumed shock pads and risers are a noob trap (unless you're riding wheels bigger than 53 mm)
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A lot of people cut up a bike tube (or any other thin rubber sheet scrap) to fit under the trucks and it works well, minimum height addition, maybe 1mm tops, which generally speaking does the job and reduces vibration of the hard metal of the baseplate on the wood.

It is not hard to do, easy to cut up and will fit with almost any bolts too.

An option anyway, but buying a set of those pre made thin rubber pads is easier for some people too.

I love shock pads. My setup right now is the first since early 2020 that hasn't had them. My favorite are the newer 1/16" Ace ones, they do the trick without adding too much height and will work with other trucks that I've tried (Indy and venture). The pink krooked risers are also nice, semi soft if you're not trying to go full shock pad. They're also slotted so they'll fit whatever.

But yeah, I just like how they smooth out the ride when I am going point a to b. Haven't been doing that too much but I'm sure I'll bring them back if/when I do.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 11, 2023, 07:16:32 PM
Here’s one Brimmo will get a kick out of: one of my set-ups has leather riser pads.
They were mfg’d. by a skate accessory company called Big Top (I think?) out of Massachusetts or something.
Anyway, they’re an anomaly & I couldn’t resist setting them up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 12, 2023, 05:06:34 AM
Here’s one Brimmo will get a kick out of: one of my set-ups has leather riser pads.
They were mfg’d. by a skate accessory company called Big Top (I think?) out of Massachusetts or something.
Anyway, they’re an anomaly & I couldn’t resist setting them up.

Ha yeah!

You like a little leather between your wood and your metal?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 12, 2023, 10:23:07 AM
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Here’s one Brimmo will get a kick out of: one of my set-ups has leather riser pads.
They were mfg’d. by a skate accessory company called Big Top (I think?) out of Massachusetts or something.
Anyway, they’re an anomaly & I couldn’t resist setting them up.
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Ha yeah!

You like a little leather between your wood and your metal?
Is my inner Rob Halford showing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzle on February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM
Do aftermarket insoles noticeably reduce knee pain after skating?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 12, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
Do aftermarket insoles noticeably reduce knee pain after skating?

For me they reduce soreness in general.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 12, 2023, 05:21:31 PM
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I always notice in the shoes you are wearing thread everyone seems to keep their laces pretty loose. I have a narrow foot so my laces are always a bit tighter looking than what I usually see ( not Rambo laced by any means).My question is this: Is there an advantage performance wise to skating in a shoe with the laces that loose or are you guys tying them a little tighter when you get around to skating them?
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I tighten my laces a lot for skating to prevent my foot from jiggling around. A secure fit is definitely better for performance, but loose laces look much better imo, so I keep 'em loose whenever I'm not skating.
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I have very flat feet, so for most shoes I need to put an extra tongue in under what is in there, almost always a Half Cab tongue as I had a lot of Half Cabs over the years (but never needed to beef them up at all) so once I have done this, it looks more normal and not at all puffy or blown out.  Without the extra tongue, usually the sides of the laces area would almost be overlapping with a ton of spare shoe lace and look pretty funny, to say the least.

People used to do this to all shoes and big thick puffy tongues were the only way to go mid 2000s or so, almost too much but I am not here to talk about various fashion styles.


The weird thing is a lot of others I know almost have the opposite problem, where their feet are so tall and thick that they always have what looks like loose laces, when in fact they are almost too tight on their feet when laced up like mine so have to wear them with a lot more lace across, giving that look you mention.

That is not to say that when not skating (or even some while skating too), people don't loosen up their laces, like my Half Cabs are almost like slip ons when I am not skating, but different feet can give a very different look too.


I also add a thin extra insole sometimes too, the kind of thin flat foam thing from a $2 store or department store, which also helps my foot fit in some shoes better, so that might work too.  I put it under everything else, but you can put it on top easily enough too.

Thanks for the input gang. I used to do the $2 department store insoles on the old style canvas insoles before Vans did the pro series and eventually Skate series. What got me thinking about this was seeing footage of Wes Kramer in that Thrasher “Home Movie” edit where he slams and his shoes fly off. It got me wondering about loosening up my kit. Maybe this should have been a madness post!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 13, 2023, 02:37:25 AM
Already asked this on the wheel thread but that place is dead so I'll try my luck I here: anybody tried Bonjour wheels?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on February 13, 2023, 01:39:53 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for a travel bag that you can either strap your board to or place inside?
I’m planning on flying to Hawaii in about 6 weeks for a skate trip. Meeting up with buddies that live there. I’m looking at the RVCA skate duffel bag so far, but open to suggestions
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on February 13, 2023, 01:54:12 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for a travel bag that you can either strap your board to or place inside?
I’m planning on flying to Hawaii in about 6 weeks for a skate trip. Meeting up with buddies that live there. I’m looking at the RVCA skate duffel bag so far, but open to suggestions

Bronze x DC made a good duffle that you can fit your deck in

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/dc-x-bronze-travel-bag-74-7082853597218/

Nike and Incase made some good ones back in the day too that you could put your whole set up in, but haven't been in production in years unfortunately. Im a big fan of keeping it low key when I travel and don't like the look of the ones that you can strap the board to the bottom, plus it makes it so much more clunkier and easier knocking shit over. Use my Incase Prod one all these years later still!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 13, 2023, 02:19:58 PM
Are you gonna check in or carry on that bag?  When I check in my board without a bag it travels to the next destination in a bin that doesn’t get anything piled on top, but if the board is in a bag it would get thrown around and clumped in with all the other heavy luggage
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on February 13, 2023, 02:47:35 PM
Ideally I want to bring it as a carryon item. Last time I flew with checked bags they wound up missing for 3 weeks. That DC bag could probably work
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 13, 2023, 09:58:36 PM
I got a herschel Indy duffel bag that just has basic straps on the bottom, worked well.  I also have the Chrome pack and I love it.  Best set up for carrying a board.  Doesn't have a ton of pockets but is pretty water proof. 

Another question......

Do you manual better on narrower or wider trucks?  Grinds, definitely wider, but manuals?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 13, 2023, 11:49:06 PM
Already asked this on the wheel thread but that place is dead so I'll try my luck I here: anybody tried Bonjour wheels?

No yet but will do when it when I go threw this set of spitfires. For 35 euro worth a shot. Especially if the rumors are true of spit's going up to 70 euro.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Acid Drop on February 14, 2023, 01:27:44 AM
Another question......

Do you manual better on narrower or wider trucks?  Grinds, definitely wider, but manuals?

No, manuals are easier on wider but you can get up on ledges easier with narrower and the board flips faster. Biggest draw back of narrower trucks is the board wants to flip on fs pop shuvit. Overall I think there are a number of factors involved a.k.a madness.

I got a small 50-50. I just got onto that painted ledge and it actually grinded, the sun is a peach!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on February 14, 2023, 02:01:03 AM
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Already asked this on the wheel thread but that place is dead so I'll try my luck I here: anybody tried Bonjour wheels?
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No yet but will do when it when I go threw this set of spitfires. For 35 euro worth a shot. Especially if the rumors are true of spit's going up to 70 euro.
rumor? They're 76 up to 56 or 57mm, then 84 for 58 and up in sweden already. the mixed Evan's in the wooden box are 90. it's fucked.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 14, 2023, 03:37:44 AM
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Already asked this on the wheel thread but that place is dead so I'll try my luck I here: anybody tried Bonjour wheels?
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No yet but will do when it when I go threw this set of spitfires. For 35 euro worth a shot. Especially if the rumors are true of spit's going up to 70 euro.
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rumor? They're 76 up to 56 or 57mm, then 84 for 58 and up in sweden already. the mixed Evan's in the wooden box are 90. it's fucked.

I haven't noticed the price go up at my local (Grenoble, France) yet. Will check Saturday.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on February 14, 2023, 04:55:05 AM
it's on here in France
remaining stock still around 58-60€
some new stock at 65€
some new stock at 70€

the funny thing is Conical full 101 52 and 54 are now 70€ while 53 are 65€
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on February 14, 2023, 06:22:10 AM
You could probably get four sets for the price of two in Europe, including shipping, if you can find a US store or someone on here to send stuff to Europe.

On a related note, how long can wheels last before degrading? I’m thinking about increasing the stockpile if prices in US go up too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on February 14, 2023, 06:26:03 AM
Spitfire Formula Fours still seem to be 49€ here in Finland. Never understood why they’re so much more expensive elsewhere in Europe. If the prices go up like with everything I can for once be glad I had some hoarding madness and am stocked up for a few years at least.  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 14, 2023, 10:23:28 AM
You could probably get four sets for the price of two in Europe, including shipping, if you can find a US store or someone on here to send stuff to Europe.

On a related note, how long can wheels last before degrading? I’m thinking about increasing the stockpile if prices in US go up too.

Wheels store well as long as it’s somewhere dark, and the prices are about to increase here. About $48-50 American for F4s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on February 14, 2023, 12:48:59 PM
What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 14, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?

kook this man
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on February 14, 2023, 01:01:44 PM
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What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?
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kook this man

Fuck ya
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 14, 2023, 01:08:26 PM
What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?

Not sure if you're serious, but no.
And that's from someone that owns ventures and doesn't ever ride indy.

Unless you're talking about practicing stalls, going straight up and down.
They turn and grind MUCH worse, so really no point using them on transition.
It obviously still works though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?

As to your question, second part first, I prefer Indy over Venture for everything and I am more a transition based skater.

For the first part, it is entirely up to the individual.

There are some DLX riders who rip transition on Ventures, as well as some other guys I know who ride them on everything, including mini ramp, bowl and vert, not to mention all those guys like Cardiel, Speyer, Drehobl and Shao back in the 90s on Venture who all shredded transition or anything and everything, which seems like the opposite of the Venture low trucks on the tech setups more common with ledge or flatground skaters nowdays.

Common setups include the team editions or the V-lights, but you can skate most of them on anything, especially the wider sizes 5.8 or 6.1 on bigger boards.  One guy I know uses two top bushings, like Ishod does in his Thunders to get more turn and response, but even just skating the 5.8 team editions I have with stock bushings, they still turn and ride fine once you are used to them.


This was the video I was thinking of when anyone asks about Venture trucks and transition skating.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlYdT5oKN0I

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 14, 2023, 02:56:01 PM
Has anybody tried the Paris street trucks? Searched for them, apparently they come from the same factory as ACE AF1 trucks but no one posted about riding them yet.

I consider buying them for a cruiser setup, they're 43% off at titus:

https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/ (https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 14, 2023, 04:53:21 PM
Thanks for sharing that IgnitionXVenture video @Mbrimson88 I never saw that one. It’s going on my replay/get stoked to skate list. I’m fired up now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 14, 2023, 05:22:03 PM
Been a while since I've bought Converse CONS. Do they still fit a half size big across the board, and is the CX insole a big improvement from the Zoom Air insole? Last time I got them it had the Zoom Air insole and I absolutely hated the shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 05:56:25 PM
Thanks for sharing that IgnitionXVenture video @Mbrimson88 I never saw that one. It’s going on my replay/get stoked to skate list. I’m fired up now.


Yeah for sure.

Made me go looking for more of that crew, but there is not a whole lot out there, so it seems.

Nick Tyrrell insta link anyway:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdWxaH2pfQg/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: clintendo on February 14, 2023, 07:01:11 PM
What's the best venture truck for skating purely transition, and will it be as good as Indy?

Brimo's covered most of it, but got a housemate who is now riding Venture, he basically said that once your wear the truck in they're great for grinding and control on transition.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on February 14, 2023, 07:38:17 PM
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Thanks for sharing that IgnitionXVenture video @Mbrimson88 I never saw that one. It’s going on my replay/get stoked to skate list. I’m fired up now.
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Yeah for sure.

Made me go looking for more of that crew, but there is not a whole lot out there, so it seems.

Nick Tyrrell insta link anyway:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdWxaH2pfQg/

Yeah thanks man, that vid was sick.

Don't know if you've seen this but the guy who filmed that vid has this channel, got some pretty cool vids of those guys.

https://www.youtube.com/@brendonhupp

I still really want to try some venture trucks one day, just for something new.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on February 14, 2023, 07:51:44 PM
I've been skating the Vans skate line for awhile and want to switch it up but I hate super thin soles like old sole tech vulcs. Was thinking about blazers but wanted some other input, anyone have any recommendations?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 14, 2023, 08:58:06 PM
NB 272 or 440, maybe LRAB with a different insole? I dunno I don't have fond memories of Blazers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jogging José on February 15, 2023, 12:15:06 AM
Has anybody tried the Paris street trucks? Searched for them, apparently they come from the same factory as ACE AF1 trucks but no one posted about riding them yet.

I consider buying them for a cruiser setup, they're 43% off at titus:

https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/ (https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/)

My Gf had the 129 Paris on her Arbor Cruiser. I didn‘t like the turn and replaced them with Royals (newer IKP ones). The Paris Trucks are now on my Daughters board.

You are from Vienna, right? If you want to check them out in person feel free to dm me (like a man) - I am in the second district…

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 15, 2023, 06:33:32 AM
Been a while since I've bought Converse CONS. Do they still fit a half size big across the board, and is the CX insole a big improvement from the Zoom Air insole? Last time I got them it had the Zoom Air insole and I absolutely hated the shoe.

Sizing is pretty much the same, and the CX is so much better than the Zoom. I do 1/2 down for OneStars and Jack Purcells, Full size down for CTAS.

The CX is thicker (not popcush thick, but thicker) and more responsive. I fucking hated the zoom insoles so much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on February 15, 2023, 11:58:50 AM
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Brimo's covered most of it, but got a housemate who is now riding Venture, he basically said that once your wear the truck in they're great for grinding and control on transition.

I made the switch to Venture from Indy a couple years ago and I love them. But mostly do ledge skating, and mini ramp skating here and there.

I moved recently to an area where there are almost no ledges tho and all the parks around here mainly have bowls and big banks/QPs so my Ventures and my skating have had a little rough time adjusting. I personally feel like they dont grind that well, or can hold long grinds that well, across coping. Turn is a little slower too. But im sure if you already have solid transition skills it wont be hard to adjust, especially once they have been broken in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 15, 2023, 01:44:07 PM
I always default to watching Manderson not seem to notice any grind issues once he switched or Bobby Worrest smashing through Pulaski with no wax.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 15, 2023, 03:06:40 PM
I always default to watching Manderson not seem to notice any grind issues once he switched or Bobby Worrest smashing through Pulaski with no wax.
this!!! i find it's easier to stay locked in grinds with Ventures even tho it feels slower than other brands like Ace. Never had issues holding a long crook or falling into a noseslide from crook position whereas with Aces, it never feels like I can sit properly in the crook
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 09:24:06 PM

Yeah thanks man, that vid was sick.

Don't know if you've seen this but the guy who filmed that vid has this channel, got some pretty cool vids of those guys.

https://www.youtube.com/@brendonhupp

I still really want to try some venture trucks one day, just for something new.


Definitely added to the "To view when I can" list.

Thanks!!!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: radcunt on February 16, 2023, 05:22:04 AM
Anyone get pain above their knee, behind the cap after skating for a bit?  What's that shit all about.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 16, 2023, 06:25:29 AM
Anyone get pain above their knee, behind the cap after skating for a bit?  What's that shit all about.

Possible "Runner's Knee". I developed an awful case in the middle of a week-long bicycle tour back in 2013, and I am still dealing with occasional flair-ups from it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on February 16, 2023, 09:00:51 AM
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I always default to watching Manderson not seem to notice any grind issues once he switched or Bobby Worrest smashing through Pulaski with no wax.
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this!!! i find it's easier to stay locked in grinds with Ventures even tho it feels slower than other brands like Ace. Never had issues holding a long crook or falling into a noseslide from crook position whereas with Aces, it never feels like I can sit properly in the crook

as a crooked enthusiast, i can confirm that with Aces you need to adjust (coming from Indy)
and i think i heard good things about the way ventures pinch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 16, 2023, 09:09:37 AM
Anyone get pain above their knee, behind the cap after skating for a bit?  What's that shit all about.

Is the back of the leg or inside the knee?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on February 16, 2023, 09:46:40 AM
Can someone who’s tried lots of different wheels tell me what wheel slides the best. My assumption is F4 101A’s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 16, 2023, 10:02:53 AM
Can someone who’s tried lots of different wheels tell me what wheel slides the best. My assumption is F4 101A’s

The 99s slide better TBH. Especially if you're in the screets. I've been told 101s are better in a smooth park but here (Philly) the 99s slide way better at my usual shitty spots.

Second place was NFG (RIP) 103b. Those slid really well, even on crust.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 16, 2023, 10:30:50 AM
Can someone who’s tried lots of different wheels tell me what wheel slides the best. My assumption is F4 101A’s

For me it's either spitfire f4 99a or bones stf 103a. Both super slidey, while the f4 99a are much nicer/smoother to ride
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on February 16, 2023, 10:37:32 AM
Can someone who’s tried lots of different wheels tell me what wheel slides the best. My assumption is F4 101A’s

i'd say your assumption is correct. F4 99a is more predictable and controlled slide though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on February 16, 2023, 10:43:53 AM
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i'd say your assumption is correct. F4 99a is more predictable and controlled slide though.

Exactly. For me it felt like they both require the same amount of force to break into a slide but the 101s slipped out much easier while the 99s are really easy to control. That and a bunch of other reasons made me stick with the F4 99s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on February 16, 2023, 11:03:26 AM
How do you clean your grip tape knife? I have a small pocket knife for cutting the grip but it’s sticky now from use. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 16, 2023, 11:04:49 AM
How do you clean your grip tape knife? I have a small pocket knife for cutting the grip but it’s sticky now from use.

GooGone. Props to you for using a reusable knife. I switched to disposable blades and can't quit them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on February 16, 2023, 11:05:17 AM
Acetone or 90% rubbing alcohol will get it clean asf
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on February 16, 2023, 11:29:38 AM
Might want to try vegetable oil if the knife is sticky because of residue from the gluey side of grip. Put some oil on a sponge to clean the blade with it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on February 17, 2023, 04:41:07 PM
is there anyway to get around truck squeeks without taking the kingpin nut off? when i first got the trucks i put a bunch of wax in them to stop it but not its squeeking again, if i take the nut off its not going back on.


will oil slip through the cracks and stop it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on February 17, 2023, 04:46:27 PM
is there anyway to get around truck squeeks without taking the kingpin nut off? when i first got the trucks i put a bunch of wax in them to stop it but not its squeeking again, if i take the nut off its not going back on.


will oil slip through the cracks and stop it?

penetrating oil will work its way into the threads around a seized nut or bolt so it would easily get into the pivot cup or whatever it's called, but i feel like sometihng like silicone spray would work better because penetrating oil might destroy the little rubber bushing in the pivot cup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 17, 2023, 05:20:29 PM
Get oil that has a tube. Most pivot cups have enough play to shift the nub enough to drop a drop in each side. You could do the same with the bushings. You will get lube squirting out so take care of that. Sewing machine and gun oil often come in small tubes with really pointy tips.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 17, 2023, 06:08:43 PM
Anybody use 3 in 1 oil?  I use it for my bearings, I bet it would work on pivot cups too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on February 17, 2023, 07:44:58 PM
the oil worked like a charm, complete silence now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on February 18, 2023, 06:19:34 PM
Ok… if I remember correctly there is a video / video part that used the Killer Mike Reagan song… I especially remember the part “RONALD WILSON REAGAN 666” I’ve scoured the internet and can find nothing… any idea?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on February 18, 2023, 06:22:38 PM
Has anybody tried the Paris street trucks? Searched for them, apparently they come from the same factory as ACE AF1 trucks but no one posted about riding them yet.

I consider buying them for a cruiser setup, they're 43% off at titus:

https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/ (https://www.titus.at/paris-achse-149mm-street-silver-0121202/)

They turn pretty nicely but they use a longboard (0.6" height) sized bushing for the roadside bushing.  Feel good on a cruiser, would not recommend for anything more serious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on February 18, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
How does the standard hockey shape compare to the standard polar shape? I know the hickey will have a much more full nose and tail but how do the kick angles compare?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 19, 2023, 08:30:10 AM
Ok… if I remember correctly there is a video / video part that used the Killer Mike Reagan song… I especially remember the part “RONALD WILSON REAGAN 666” I’ve scoured the internet and can find nothing… any idea?

It was an Al Davis GX part and I think it is scrubbed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on February 19, 2023, 08:58:26 AM
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Ok… if I remember correctly there is a video / video part that used the Killer Mike Reagan song… I especially remember the part “RONALD WILSON REAGAN 666” I’ve scoured the internet and can find nothing… any idea?
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It was an Al Davis GX part and I think it is scrubbed.
At least I know I’m not nuts… thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 19, 2023, 09:52:54 AM
How does the standard hockey shape compare to the standard polar shape? I know the hickey will have a much more full nose and tail but how do the kick angles compare?

Couldn't be more different. Polars have large, classic popsicle shaped kicks where the tail is slightly pointier. The noses are long, but they kick up more mellow and the kick starts close to the front bolts. A Hockey Shape 1 has more flat and then a steep, square nose. The Hockey tails are also shorter and WB for every size is shorter.

Hockey 8.38: 14.18WB, 31.79
Polar 8.38: 14.38WB, 32.1

Hockey 8.5: 14.25, 31.9
Polar 8.5: 14.38, 32.2

Hockey has a Shape 2 now, but those are still shorter WB and overall length.

They're so different that if you really like one, you likely will hate the other.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on February 19, 2023, 09:54:42 AM
How does the standard hockey shape compare to the standard polar shape? I know the hickey will have a much more full nose and tail but how do the kick angles compare?

I got you, here's a Polar 8.625 with a standard Hockey 8.5

(https://i.ibb.co/fp7LXms/PXL-20230219-174217473.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fp7LXms)

(https://i.ibb.co/5Ghfwww/PXL-20230219-174312284.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5Ghfwww)

The Hockey is noticeably more square in the tail, but biggest difference is in the steepness of the kicks. I'll probably sell the Hockey tbh due to that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mall Grab Mike on February 19, 2023, 03:48:19 PM
What is the deal with boogers in 2023? Still frowned upon? Tasty nose fruit? Stop if blood is involved?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on February 20, 2023, 03:53:24 AM
Which sells more bloards Hockey or FA?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on February 20, 2023, 08:23:31 AM
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How does the standard hockey shape compare to the standard polar shape? I know the hickey will have a much more full nose and tail but how do the kick angles compare?
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Couldn't be more different. Polars have large, classic popsicle shaped kicks where the tail is slightly pointier. The noses are long, but they kick up more mellow and the kick starts close to the front bolts. A Hockey Shape 1 has more flat and then a steep, square nose. The Hockey tails are also shorter and WB for every size is shorter.

Hockey 8.38: 14.18WB, 31.79
Polar 8.38: 14.38WB, 32.1

Hockey 8.5: 14.25, 31.9
Polar 8.5: 14.38, 32.2

Hockey has a Shape 2 now, but those are still shorter WB and overall length.

They're so different that if you really like one, you likely will hate the other.

Damn okay good to know.  I did like my polar board a fair amount, but I'm also pretty new so I'm wondering if its worth experimenting with something pretty different on the spectrum to see if I like the change.  Much to think about.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pedro_mayn on February 20, 2023, 08:43:54 AM
Has anyone ever gotten shoes where the soles have hardened a bit? And if so, do they know if you can get them back some-what grippy again? Or are they doomed for eternity?

Not really neccesary really I know as I can skate other shoes etc etc. But I'm just going through some old shoes I stowed away and I'm deciding to skate through them rather than have them take up room.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 20, 2023, 10:44:57 AM
Are those pangea  jeans dudes and people like Kevin bilyeu skate „small“ decks or do I think this because of their 2000‘s style?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2023, 11:07:11 AM
Are those panga jeans dudes and people like Kevin bilyeu skate „small“ decks or do I think this because of their 2000‘s style?


Super thug chorus
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 20, 2023, 11:16:32 AM
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Are those panga jeans dudes and people like Kevin bilyeu skate „small“ decks or do I think this because of their 2000‘s style?
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Super thug chorus

What x100?
I mean when I see people who skate for pangea jeans I always wonder what deck size they skate.
They got that whole 2000 vibe and I wonder if their decks are 8“ or below too because of that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
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Are those panga jeans dudes and people like Kevin bilyeu skate „small“ decks or do I think this because of their 2000‘s style?
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Super thug chorus
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What x100?
I mean when I see people who skate for pangea jeans I always wonder what deck size they skate.
They got that whole 2000 vibe and I wonder if their decks are 8“ or below too because of that

Yeah I think some of those guys are riding small boards. 7.75-8.
It looks good to me, but…I would have thought it bizarre if in 1999 someone rocked up to the spot in the full Alva kit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on February 20, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
Has anyone ever gotten shoes where the soles have hardened a bit? And if so, do they know if you can get them back some-what grippy again? Or are they doomed for eternity?

Not really neccesary really I know as I can skate other shoes etc etc. But I'm just going through some old shoes I stowed away and I'm deciding to skate through them rather than have them take up room.

Unless they’re like old old where the glues and foams are starting to crumble, you should be able to bring them back. Try just skating them a bit and seeing if the grip will take off the rind. Magic Eraser or fine sandpaper with some water can also work.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 20, 2023, 01:02:58 PM
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Are those panga jeans dudes and people like Kevin bilyeu skate „small“ decks or do I think this because of their 2000‘s style?
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Super thug chorus
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What x100?
I mean when I see people who skate for pangea jeans I always wonder what deck size they skate.
They got that whole 2000 vibe and I wonder if their decks are 8“ or below too because of that
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Yeah I think some of those guys are riding small boards. 7.75-8.
It looks good to me, but…I would have thought it bizarre if in 1999 someone rocked up to the spot in the full Alva kit

Yeah, I like it a lot. Sized down to an 8 now too.
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Post by: pedro_mayn on February 20, 2023, 02:19:51 PM
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Has anyone ever gotten shoes where the soles have hardened a bit? And if so, do they know if you can get them back some-what grippy again? Or are they doomed for eternity?

Not really neccesary really I know as I can skate other shoes etc etc. But I'm just going through some old shoes I stowed away and I'm deciding to skate through them rather than have them take up room.
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Unless they’re like old old where the glues and foams are starting to crumble, you should be able to bring them back. Try just skating them a bit and seeing if the grip will take off the rind. Magic Eraser or fine sandpaper with some water can also work.

Safe! I was thinking sandpaper, but thought I'd check if there was alternatives. I'll give it a go soon.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 20, 2023, 02:42:05 PM
Cheaper alternatives to shoo goo?

Most glue just gets too hard and sucks for flicking.
Here in Germany there’s shoe glue stuff and it says „elastic“. You think that’s worth to try? It’s a lot cheaper.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on February 20, 2023, 03:45:11 PM
Cheaper alternatives to shoo goo?

Most glue just gets too hard and sucks for flicking.
Here in Germany there’s shoe glue stuff and it says „elastic“. You think that’s worth to try? It’s a lot cheaper.

I don't know from the top of my head if that stuff is cheaper as Shoe Goo but I have good experiences with Ripcare shoe glue. I think it's also a German company. But that stuff is great. I usually put a thin layer on my shoes, smear them with a little wooden stick, sand them off a bit and then put a lighter over them to work them into the shoe.

I hope that all made sense, English isn't my first language.
I can also post photos of said shoe if ya want.
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Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2023, 05:25:51 PM
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Cheaper alternatives to shoo goo?

Most glue just gets too hard and sucks for flicking.
Here in Germany there’s shoe glue stuff and it says „elastic“. You think that’s worth to try? It’s a lot cheaper.
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I don't know from the top of my head if that stuff is cheaper as Shoe Goo but I have good experiences with Ripcare shoe glue. I think it's also a German company. But that stuff is great. I usually put a thin layer on my shoes, smear them with a little wooden stick, sand them off a bit and then put a lighter over them to work them into the shoe.

I hope that all made sense, English isn't my first language.
I can also post photos of said shoe if ya want.

I've been using E6000 as a replacement for Shoe Goo, cheaper and easier to find. It's less viscous than Shoe Goo and needs 2x as long to harden (at least 10 hours) and has the right amount of grip. Probably 75% the durability of Shoe Goo, I'll apply a layer on the flicking area every week or less, depending on how hard I've been skating.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 21, 2023, 01:35:33 AM
Thanks!

I heard of ripcare. Will try it.
Will also try that cheap German glue stuff, cause it’s 10% of the price of shoo goo.
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Post by: rawbertson. on February 21, 2023, 07:32:38 AM
are Bones STF wheels lighter than F4s? they seem to be very light and plasticy feeling compared to the solidness of an F4.
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 21, 2023, 09:29:19 AM
are Bones STF wheels lighter than F4s? they seem to be very light and plasticy feeling compared to the solidness of an F4.

Never weighed them, but they feel lighter.  Also depends on the shape.  A V3 will be lighter than a conical or even a tablet because of the difference in material alone.


My question that doesn’t need a thread: what are the benefits of a heavier/heftier board for transition?  My friend and I mostly skate transition and he has a heavy wide turning board while mine is (intentionally) lighter with a quicker turn.  I know that generally people that skate transition have bigger heavier boards, but was wondering why that’s the case.  After a few attempts at getting used to a heavier board, my balance, confidence, and speed are noticeably better on my lighter setups.
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Post by: Mean salto on February 21, 2023, 09:54:46 AM
(soz not really about gear as such)
In the early 00s when pants got slimmer was there ever an ad that was a subway parody like somebody holding up their old baggy cargos but now wearing skinny jeans?
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Post by: biaherl on February 21, 2023, 10:35:19 AM
(soz not really about gear as such)
In the early 00s when pants got slimmer was there ever an ad that was a subway parody like somebody holding up their old baggy cargos but now wearing skinny jeans?

I remember everyone that went hesh didn't want to reminisce about being fresh. I could see Big Brother doing something like that
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Post by: goodatmeth on February 21, 2023, 04:27:51 PM
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are Bones STF wheels lighter than F4s? they seem to be very light and plasticy feeling compared to the solidness of an F4.
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Never weighed them, but they feel lighter.  Also depends on the shape.  A V3 will be lighter than a conical or even a tablet because of the difference in material alone.


My question that doesn’t need a thread: what are the benefits of a heavier/heftier board for transition?  My friend and I mostly skate transition and he has a heavy wide turning board while mine is (intentionally) lighter with a quicker turn.  I know that generally people that skate transition have bigger heavier boards, but was wondering why that’s the case.  After a few attempts at getting used to a heavier board, my balance, confidence, and speed are noticeably better on my lighter setups.

I've heard that the bigger the transition, the more slowed down all the movements of tricks have to be. I guess that's where the whole long and heavy board thing comes from? Larger moment of inertia
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 21, 2023, 05:20:05 PM
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Never weighed them, but they feel lighter.  Also depends on the shape.  A V3 will be lighter than a conical or even a tablet because of the difference in material alone.


My question that doesn’t need a thread: what are the benefits of a heavier/heftier board for transition?  My friend and I mostly skate transition and he has a heavy wide turning board while mine is (intentionally) lighter with a quicker turn.  I know that generally people that skate transition have bigger heavier boards, but was wondering why that’s the case.  After a few attempts at getting used to a heavier board, my balance, confidence, and speed are noticeably better on my lighter setups.
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I've heard that the bigger the transition, the more slowed down all the movements of tricks have to be. I guess that's where the whole long and heavy board thing comes from? Larger moment of inertia


It was interesting that some people have no issue with board weight when asked, whereas others are all about having something as light as they can, when skating transition (or anything really) but when Bucky said his new carbon fiber baseplate mod with ti axle Indy and flight board was almost too light, I am thinking there has got to be a certain point that you get to where things can go better with a little more weight.

Some of those old vert boards were like logs, so heavy and for some of those guys, they used that to their advantage, as it was just a big weight that kept momentum going, but for some of the tech wizards, they want a lighter setup that they can throw around and do whatever they want on the vert ramp or other places they skate (if any).


From that I guess it depends on what you prefer, with your individual skating, how you move and in turn how you throw your weight around (you and the board, pun intended) that will determine what setup works best for you.


From normal wood, to flight decks, from standard trucks to hollow, forged, ti axles, from big wide wheels to skinny side cut optoins, there are a lot of things that can be changed in or out to give a normal board some weight saving, or even weight creating in that regard.

If someone offers a board to ride, I will usually have a slight heft of it just to see how much it weighs, but I don't really consider weight an issue for my skating, whereas others always strive for the lightest board who I skate with.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 21, 2023, 05:43:44 PM
It’s not an issue until I think it is….I have certain tolerances which I try to avoid…
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Post by: roll_dog on February 21, 2023, 06:00:24 PM
I feel the standards are more stable, less twitchy.
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Post by: rawbertson. on February 22, 2023, 07:45:11 AM
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are Bones STF wheels lighter than F4s? they seem to be very light and plasticy feeling compared to the solidness of an F4.
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Never weighed them, but they feel lighter.  Also depends on the shape.  A V3 will be lighter than a conical or even a tablet because of the difference in material alone.


My question that doesn’t need a thread: what are the benefits of a heavier/heftier board for transition?  My friend and I mostly skate transition and he has a heavy wide turning board while mine is (intentionally) lighter with a quicker turn.  I know that generally people that skate transition have bigger heavier boards, but was wondering why that’s the case.  After a few attempts at getting used to a heavier board, my balance, confidence, and speed are noticeably better on my lighter setups.
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I've heard that the bigger the transition, the more slowed down all the movements of tricks have to be. I guess that's where the whole long and heavy board thing comes from? Larger moment of inertia
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It was interesting that some people have no issue with board weight when asked, whereas others are all about having something as light as they can, when skating transition (or anything really) but when Bucky said his new carbon fiber baseplate mod with ti axle Indy and flight board was almost too light, I am thinking there has got to be a certain point that you get to where things can go better with a little more weight.

Some of those old vert boards were like logs, so heavy and for some of those guys, they used that to their advantage, as it was just a big weight that kept momentum going, but for some of the tech wizards, they want a lighter setup that they can throw around and do whatever they want on the vert ramp or other places they skate (if any).


From that I guess it depends on what you prefer, with your individual skating, how you move and in turn how you throw your weight around (you and the board, pun intended) that will determine what setup works best for you.


From normal wood, to flight decks, from standard trucks to hollow, forged, ti axles, from big wide wheels to skinny side cut optoins, there are a lot of things that can be changed in or out to give a normal board some weight saving, or even weight creating in that regard.

If someone offers a board to ride, I will usually have a slight heft of it just to see how much it weighs, but I don't really consider weight an issue for my skating, whereas others always strive for the lightest board who I skate with.

i personally cant stand super light completes. there is a certain weight i find perfect - my 8" with ventures standard feels like the perfect weight to me for doing flip tricks. my 9.125" setup with Ace 60s feels slightly too heavy. i took off the 58mm wheels and put on 54mm and it feels a lot better just being that much lower to the ground + tiniest bit lighter. it felt like the wheels were kinda getting in the way too. I probably could have done hollows on that setup but i kinda like it a bit heavier for this setup for doing grinds. i like the bit of extra weight for doing slappies too, it feels like you get a bit more feedback
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 22, 2023, 08:00:34 AM
I think my main issue with getting used to heavy boards is that I feel like the board is taking me for a ride and I can’t really control it, the weight and momentum are deciding my fate.  But I guess people who are actually good at skating transition use this to their advantage.  I can grind just as far and long as my friend on uncoped lips, but when I try on his board the board doesn’t stop when I want it to and it looks like I’m slipping out when it’s actually like a rug was pulled from under me.  Makes sense now after typing that out though


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Post by: Pasta Monster on February 22, 2023, 11:17:48 AM
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The berrics sale gear sections actually has some deals

Adidas lucas, and various vans skate classics for $25 in a bunch of sizes. 15% coupon for signing up for the mailing list.

https://canteen.theberrics.com/collections/sale/Sale?filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=&sort_by=price-ascending
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Those are good deals. May need those white and gum lucas’
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Last time I picked up a pair of those colorways on sale ($30) I flipped them 4mo later for $250 =D

Still sitting on a pair of NIB Mens 10....patiently waiting
I looked them up and they’re going for $2400 on GOAT. Is there any reason why? I don’t get the shoe-resale market and didn’t know people liked them like that. The only reason I used to skate them is because I got them cheap off of clearance racks 3-4 years ago.

(They sold out by the time I figured out how much they go for and attempted to add some to my cart.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FunnyBunny on February 22, 2023, 06:27:38 PM
Will ace bushings fit in venture trucks??  The reason I am asking is I heard venture stock bushings turn very hard in the cold, and in my experience aces dont, and I have a set of stock and hard ace bushings. Figure I could get one of them to work to my liking
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Post by: tzhangdox on February 22, 2023, 06:49:35 PM
Will ace bushings fit in venture trucks??  The reason I am asking is I heard venture stock bushings turn very hard in the cold, and in my experience aces dont, and I have a set of stock and hard ace bushings. Figure I could get one of them to work to my liking

bottom one fits perfect, top one is a bit tall for ventures, could shave them down or get the low top bushings
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Post by: Tom Pearl on February 22, 2023, 07:01:52 PM
why didn't alex chalmers get a 20th anniversary sorry reissue
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Post by: hiljentaa on February 23, 2023, 12:10:02 AM
Will ace bushings fit in venture trucks??  The reason I am asking is I heard venture stock bushings turn very hard in the cold, and in my experience aces dont, and I have a set of stock and hard ace bushings. Figure I could get one of them to work to my liking

I've been breaking in a new set of 5.8s in 30° to 40° temperatures for a couple months and they turn absolutely fine. I can lean all the way to wheelbite easily. Stock bushings and a flat top washer.
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Post by: linty on February 23, 2023, 02:58:56 AM
Bought new 78D wheels for filming. What the fuck is up with the ridges? It's my first set of Satoris.
(https://i.imgur.com/mfQntFx.jpg)
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Post by: tzhangdox on February 23, 2023, 03:02:52 AM
thats pretty normal itll even out you wont notice it
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Post by: linty on February 23, 2023, 03:16:15 AM
thats pretty normal itll even out you wont notice it
Good to know! I must've had wheels with similar ridges before but the size of these got me shook.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hobochimp on February 26, 2023, 10:49:47 AM
Does anyone know the dimensions on Atlantic drift decks? I’m most curious about the 8.5 and the 8.38. Not sure why they have no dimensions listed other than width
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 26, 2023, 12:15:09 PM
Does anyone know the dimensions on Atlantic drift decks? I’m most curious about the 8.5 and the 8.38. Not sure why they have no dimensions listed other than width
I don’t know.
And being little more than an empty vessel that longs for somebody to come along and fill me with humanity one day, I can’t help you.
But if I were actually a fully realized man I would probably have some idea of what to do & it would likely begin w/ deciding on my preferred size(s), formulating a specific question around that info, then something involving DMs on Insta.
Alas though, I am but a hollow shell masquerading as a skateboarder on a message board & as such, can proffer little more than this meager advice.
Best of luck on your quest for knowledge, intrepid shredder.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: maggotspawn on February 26, 2023, 12:23:41 PM
How are the 97A F4's compared to the Powell Dragons?
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Post by: tzhangdox on February 26, 2023, 03:13:12 PM
How are the 97A F4's compared to the Powell Dragons?

97 f4s just feel like a softer 99 f4, but still skate and feel like a hard wheel imo. Will drag a bit more on grinds than 99 f4s.

Powell dragons, if you're coming from say a 99 f4, will feel kinda like gummy bouncy cruiser wheels. A lot softer and smoother than 97 f4s. Will drag much more on grinds than 97 f4s, and also pitch you harder if you wheelbite. But somehow they powerslide and can skate like a hard wheel if you ignore those things. For some those drawbacks aren't too noticeable depending on what you like to skate.

The grind drag on some things like concrete ledges isn't bad at all. Its a lot more noticeable on metal coping imo.
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Post by: whale on February 27, 2023, 12:54:25 AM
Is Nik Stain as tall irl as he looks on video?
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Post by: Sila on February 27, 2023, 05:41:55 AM
Is there a chart somewhere for bones and spitfire wheel weights? Can't find much info. Just going through some madness since switching from 147 Hollow Lights to Royal standards and I much prefer the turn on Royals but the shift to a heavier truck has thrown me off so I'm wondering if a shift to smaller/lighter wheels would help that a bit
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Post by: goodatmeth on February 27, 2023, 06:02:48 AM
Is there a chart somewhere for bones and spitfire wheel weights? Can't find much info. Just going through some madness since switching from 147 Hollow Lights to Royal standards and I much prefer the turn on Royals but the shift to a heavier truck has thrown me off so I'm wondering if a shift to smaller/lighter wheels would help that a bit
Are you sure it's the truck weight? Did anything else change? Because the pop on my standard royals felt even lighter than on thunder titaniums, because of the short wheelbase. I struggled because everything felt too light with royals.

It's probably the height. You're going from 49mm to 52mm trucks... small wheels maybe?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on February 27, 2023, 07:02:35 AM
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Is there a chart somewhere for bones and spitfire wheel weights? Can't find much info. Just going through some madness since switching from 147 Hollow Lights to Royal standards and I much prefer the turn on Royals but the shift to a heavier truck has thrown me off so I'm wondering if a shift to smaller/lighter wheels would help that a bit
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Are you sure it's the truck weight? Did anything else change? Because the pop on my standard royals felt even lighter than on thunder titaniums, because of the short wheelbase. I struggled because everything felt too light with royals.

It's probably the height. You're going from 49mm to 52mm trucks... small wheels maybe?

I once weighed some new 52 tablets and a set of 53 conical an and the difference was like 2 grams per wheel, which you won't notice.

It's likely because you went from a 49mm truck to 53mm and the truck is heavier.
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Post by: Roisto on February 27, 2023, 12:14:25 PM
How much width do the OJ Super Juice Minis (55mm) add to the truck axle? With the 60mm OJ Super Juices I got 0.35" with Aces. Wondering if the Minis are the same.
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Post by: lamfordie on February 27, 2023, 12:17:13 PM
How are the Powell shapes? I know they have a pointy nose board but im curious about 243 shape. It says it a full nose but what is full for them?
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Post by: Richard Skidder on February 27, 2023, 01:52:21 PM
How are the Powell shapes? I know they have a pointy nose board but im curious about 243 shape. It says it a full nose but what is full for them?

“Full” for Powell is round. Nose and tail feel really short to me. I’ve never measured. Concave feels deep.
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on February 27, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Got a question about Dwindle boards - so R7 boards are being praised and I'm wondering if their Super Sap boards are the same thing, just with more sustainable glue. Is that true, is it the same overall experience either way?
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Post by: Slugboi22 on February 27, 2023, 03:39:30 PM
Got a question about Dwindle boards - so R7 boards are being praised and I'm wondering if their Super Sap boards are the same thing, just with more sustainable glue. Is that true, is it the same overall experience either way?
I just got the 9.5 Louie shape from enjoi and it’s an R7 Supersap. I’ve had the thaynan shape and that was R7 (non super sap) and they do feel the same, at least to me! I’d say go for it if you’re interested, R7 is good stuff!
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Post by: cheekclapper on February 27, 2023, 04:22:30 PM
Does anyone know what each bushing affects? Like what does the bottom bushing do vs what the top bushings does? I have stock indy bushings and blue aftermarket indy bushings and I want a middle ground in between them and was wondering what mixing them would do.
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Post by: jimgrude on February 27, 2023, 10:28:36 PM
Does anyone know what each bushing affects? Like what does the bottom bushing do vs what the top bushings does? I have stock indy bushings and blue aftermarket indy bushings and I want a middle ground in between them and was wondering what mixing them would do.

The bottom bushing dictates how your turn feels, how much resistance there is and how far you can lean. The top one affects responsiveness, snap-back and stability. Most skaters who mix and match will go for a softer bottom for the best turn, then a harder top to reel the looseness back in. Ace's come like this stock.

I'd go with stock bottom and the blue 92a on top for street, flat, as well as transition. The opposite setup is really only good if you wanna cruise and be in complete control of the turn.
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Post by: BALARGUE on February 28, 2023, 07:29:51 AM
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Does anyone know what each bushing affects? Like what does the bottom bushing do vs what the top bushings does? I have stock indy bushings and blue aftermarket indy bushings and I want a middle ground in between them and was wondering what mixing them would do.
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The bottom bushing dictates how your turn feels, how much resistance there is and how far you can lean. The top one affects responsiveness, snap-back and stability. Most skaters who mix and match will go for a softer bottom for the best turn, then a harder top to reel the looseness back in. Ace's come like this stock.

I'd go with stock bottom and the blue 92a on top for street, flat, as well as transition. The opposite setup is really only good if you wanna cruise and be in complete control of the turn.

seeing my bushings starting to crack, i need to tinker with a slightly harder top and a slightly softer bottom
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on February 28, 2023, 12:14:39 PM
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Got a question about Dwindle boards - so R7 boards are being praised and I'm wondering if their Super Sap boards are the same thing, just with more sustainable glue. Is that true, is it the same overall experience either way?
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I just got the 9.5 Louie shape from enjoi and it’s an R7 Supersap. I’ve had the thaynan shape and that was R7 (non super sap) and they do feel the same, at least to me! I’d say go for it if you’re interested, R7 is good stuff!

I saw an Almost R7 on sale so I had to cop. My friends are roasting the fuck out of me haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on February 28, 2023, 12:18:58 PM
Is Nik Stain as tall irl as he looks on video?

I've wondered this myself. I'm 6' 4" and i feel like every time i see a dude IRL that looks tall in a video, he's shorter than i am. Sometimes by a few inches or more.

I totally expected reynolds to be towering over me, but he was the same height when i met him around 18-19 years old.
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Post by: Ok on February 28, 2023, 03:48:23 PM
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Is Nik Stain as tall irl as he looks on video?
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I've wondered this myself. I'm 6' 4" and i feel like every time i see a dude IRL that looks tall in a video, he's shorter than i am. Sometimes by a few inches or more.

I totally expected reynolds to be towering over me, but he was the same height when i met him around 18-19 years old.

Skaters are short. It’s easier for short people.

How tall is Gino?
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Post by: munchbox on February 28, 2023, 03:51:47 PM
like 5’7
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 28, 2023, 05:33:36 PM
How long does it take new Swiss bearings to make a sound?
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Post by: rocklobster on February 28, 2023, 05:45:29 PM
How long does it take new Swiss bearings to make a sound?

Is this like a Buddhist poem?

If a skater lands a trick but nobody is around to witness it, does it still count?
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Post by: Acid Drop on February 28, 2023, 06:01:24 PM
Is there a hat thread, either hats you own or hats you like or hats your thinking about or hats you just got????
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 28, 2023, 06:05:13 PM
How long does it take new Swiss bearings to make a sound?


From looking after them (mainly just skating, not cleaning, but also not riding through dirt, water, etc) they will last and not get noisy for a long time, as per some sets on boards I have had going for ages.

Others who skate harder, throw their board around and generally don't care have them sounding (and feeling) dirty and a bit messed up within a month.

That said, normal skating with shields on and not touching them should still keep them going with minimal noise for a while, but if you prefer noisy bearings, you can always pop the shields and let them get dirty.  People who do that usually keep shields on for maybe a month just to let the lube wear in / off and then they are less likely to get dirt caked in them on the first session.


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Post by: Ok on February 28, 2023, 07:05:07 PM
like 5’7


Surprised by this for some reason, I thought taller.
But yeah, skaters short
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Post by: Acid Drop on February 28, 2023, 07:40:38 PM
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like 5’7
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Surprised by this for some reason, I thought taller.
But yeah, skaters short

Average height
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on March 01, 2023, 03:52:37 AM
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Is this like a Buddhist poem?

If a skater lands a trick but nobody is around to witness it, does it still count?


haha, nah, I’m talking about how new bearings give your board that sorta waterlogged sound for the first couple sessions. I’ve had my Swiss’ for a couple weeks and they feel great, but I hate the way my board sounds.
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Post by: rawbertson. on March 01, 2023, 08:07:25 AM
probably not telling you anything you dont already know, i believe that awesome sound comes from when they have dried out, so it would depend on the environment somewhat. will probably take a couple months of normal skating because i think the lube/coating is meant to stay on for awhile.

i have over-lubed bearings many times not realizing its not good but then the moment that thick oil dries up, even the shittiest bearings start to spin really well

there seems to be a "sweet spot" - like my swiss are actually too dry right now from all the salt outside and they are squeaking a bit. i put a tiny drop of speed cream and most are sounding awesome again but some of them need a tiny bit more lube still.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on March 01, 2023, 08:51:28 AM
I recently cleaned my swiss bearings and learned two drops of speed cream is too much, one in each bearing is plenty.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 01, 2023, 12:02:02 PM
Isn’t the method to wipe the shit out of them after you lube them, ie zero residual…..like your bum…
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Post by: roll_dog on March 01, 2023, 12:34:52 PM
Isn’t the method to wipe the shit out of them after you lube them, ie zero residual…..like your bum…

Yeah I suppose you could do that with a microfiber cloth.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 01, 2023, 02:55:03 PM
Anybody know if theeve titanium kingpins fit into thunder team baseplates? Same length and pins?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 01, 2023, 03:03:09 PM
How do I transfer my skate stoke to other areas in my life?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on March 01, 2023, 03:45:39 PM
Anybody know if theeve titanium kingpins fit into thunder team baseplates? Same length and pins?

First off, did you mean a kingpin from the Theeve TiHanger? They haven't made titanium kingpins in many years, so unless you have some old TiKing v2's or whatever, they're gonna be regular solid or hollow steel kingpins.

Now, will they fit? Theeve trucks are 52,5mm high, so it may work depending on the hanger you put on them. You might get terrible clearance if the hangers are too low.

What do you mean by "pins"? They're regular kingpins, so they should have the right dimensions to fit most plates. However, I'm not sure how the splines will line up. Maybe someone who has experience replacing thunder kingpins can chime in?

Lastly, why are you doing this? Unless they're the only spares you've got, I don't see the advantage. I personally switch out the Theeve kingpins for actual titanium ones, but good luck finding any of those. Anyways, happy tinkering, and report back!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie nollie on March 01, 2023, 04:08:13 PM
How do I transfer my skate stoke to other areas in my life?

Yell “YEW!” after whatever you do next and see what happens
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 01, 2023, 04:35:56 PM
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First off, did you mean a kingpin from the Theeve TiHanger? They haven't made titanium kingpins in many years, so unless you have some old TiKing v2's or whatever, they're gonna be regular solid or hollow steel kingpins.

Now, will they fit? Theeve trucks are 52,5mm high, so it may work depending on the hanger you put on them. You might get terrible clearance if the hangers are too low.

What do you mean by "pins"? They're regular kingpins, so they should have the right dimensions to fit most plates. However, I'm not sure how the splines will line up. Maybe someone who has experience replacing thunder kingpins can chime in?

Lastly, why are you doing this? Unless they're the only spares you've got, I don't see the advantage. I personally switch out the Theeve kingpins for actual titanium ones, but good luck finding any of those. Anyways, happy tinkering, and report back!

I've had these kingpins for over 10 years, definitely titanium and never used. Got them with a free replacement back then.

I totally mixed up the words pins and splines.

Advantage: Light as heck. I'd love to put it in the team baseplate and combine it with a titanium hanger.

I've found multiple online sources claiming thunder kingpins are exactly 2" (5.08 cm) long. Just measured the theeve kingpins and they are 5.2 cm long. Seems manageable on 148+
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SneakySecrets on March 01, 2023, 05:50:19 PM
Where can I buy a pair of those enormous billowing pants those Tightbooth guys wear?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cheekclapper on March 02, 2023, 03:03:09 PM
I want to put ace low bushings in my indys but the bottom bushing is 1mm shorter. am I able to put a 1mm washer to keep the geometry?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 02, 2023, 03:36:59 PM
Where can I buy a pair of those enormous billowing pants those Tightbooth guys wear?
Balloon Slacks:
https://hbx.com/men/brands/tightbooth

I don’t think the official site ships outside of Japan.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on March 02, 2023, 04:11:54 PM
I want to put ace low bushings in my indys but the bottom bushing is 1mm shorter. am I able to put a 1mm washer to keep the geometry?

I dunno, are you?

But yeah, that'll work. You might get clicking if you stack washers. Maybe just put the thickest washer you can find.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 02, 2023, 06:27:53 PM
I want to put ace low bushings in my indys but the bottom bushing is 1mm shorter. am I able to put a 1mm washer to keep the geometry?

instead of buying washers (if you don't already have them) you could just flatten a metal bottle cap or fold aluminium foil a few times until the thickness is right. Had to do that because there are no flat washers with the right kingpin hole size in any shops around here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Goggzy60 on March 04, 2023, 07:31:19 AM
Is Destructo dead again can’t find any new stock in the UK and Tommy left the brand last year
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Post by: Ok on March 04, 2023, 08:06:13 AM
Is Destructo dead again can’t find any new stock in the UK and Tommy left the brand last year


Questions that don’t deserve answers
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Post by: Goggzy60 on March 04, 2023, 08:31:11 AM
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Is Destructo dead again can’t find any new stock in the UK and Tommy left the brand last year
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Questions that don’t deserve answers

There my favourite trucks right now hence the question.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 04, 2023, 01:01:09 PM
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There my favourite trucks right now hence the question.
You answered your own question indirectly. They’re getting rid of old inventory on the website, but do not ship to U.K. If you really like them, stock up on what you can find. I’m sure shops in EU countries will ship to you, if you can’t find old stock around you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on March 04, 2023, 02:18:47 PM
How do I transfer my skate stoke to other areas in my life?
If everything in your life would stoke you out like skating does, wouldn't that mean that skating is nothing special anymore? Like whatever...no light without the dark..
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Post by: Goggzy60 on March 04, 2023, 02:20:16 PM
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Is Destructo dead again can’t find any new stock in the UK and Tommy left the brand last year
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Questions that don’t deserve answers
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There my favourite trucks right now hence the question.
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You answered your own question indirectly. They’re getting rid of old inventory on the website, but do not ship to U.K. If you really like them, stock up on what you can find. I’m sure shops in EU countries will ship to you, if you can’t find old stock around you.

Been hard to get the squadrons here at all EU or UK I ended up using 5.75 D1s but they are still fun trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on March 05, 2023, 03:33:33 AM
You may well be the 1st person I’ve ever heard say “Destructos are my favorite truck.”
No cap.
We like what we like & it am what it be.
Respekt to you, my curious euro counterpart.
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Post by: Ride it to dust on March 05, 2023, 04:17:08 AM
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Questions that don’t deserve answers
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There my favourite trucks right now hence the question.
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You answered your own question indirectly. They’re getting rid of old inventory on the website, but do not ship to U.K. If you really like them, stock up on what you can find. I’m sure shops in EU countries will ship to you, if you can’t find old stock around you.
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Been hard to get the squadrons here at all EU or UK I ended up using 5.75 D1s but they are still fun trucks.


Skatedeluxe have a load of the D2 mids mate. Not the squadrons but maybe worth a gander


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/destructo-shop
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Post by: Síota on March 05, 2023, 06:49:46 AM
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Questions that don’t deserve answers
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There my favourite trucks right now hence the question.
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You answered your own question indirectly. They’re getting rid of old inventory on the website, but do not ship to U.K. If you really like them, stock up on what you can find. I’m sure shops in EU countries will ship to you, if you can’t find old stock around you.
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Been hard to get the squadrons here at all EU or UK I ended up using 5.75 D1s but they are still fun trucks.
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Skatedeluxe have a load of the D2 mids mate. Not the squadrons but maybe worth a gander


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/destructo-shop

Iron Distribution has some in stock also dude
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: shawngreg on March 05, 2023, 07:24:11 AM
the washers that come with bones bushings, i’m assuming i could get at any major hardware store? do they have a specific name or dimensions?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 05, 2023, 09:10:02 AM
I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 05, 2023, 12:10:57 PM
I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.

I've always liked moose blanks. Loved the low concave 8.5
But also do the math and figure out if getting super expensive decks like vx/flight would actually save you money. Might even be a lot of money
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 05, 2023, 12:17:59 PM
I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 05, 2023, 12:27:59 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
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Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny 😄
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
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Post by: Pasta Monster on March 05, 2023, 01:47:53 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny 😄
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 05, 2023, 02:33:37 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
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Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny 😄
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 05, 2023, 06:44:36 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny 😄
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lesghettah on March 05, 2023, 07:09:35 PM
How old is too old for a board? I found an old quasi in storage, probably 6 years old at this point, would the wood still be good to skate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 05, 2023, 08:04:05 PM
How old is too old for a board? I found an old quasi in storage, probably 6 years old at this point, would the wood still be good to skate?


Should be fine.

Stand on it and flex the nose and tail.  Then turn it over graphic side up and stand both feet in the middle and bounce.  I would guess that if it holds up to both of those, it would be fine to skate.

That was always the way that a guy would check his old boards, that we used to know and although the science is not really there, the theory was good enough to carry him through.

Some boards he would just put straight back on the shelf / wall in the shop and more often than not they were the ones that had issues, if other people skated them.

Too soft and it will flex out easily.  Too dry and it will snap more easily.  A reasonable amount of strength with a little flex usually means it is still solid and should go ok, your own bad landings aside.

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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 06, 2023, 02:51:38 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 06, 2023, 05:09:30 AM
I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.

Have you considered one of the heavy duty decks? I know obviously we love to rip Powell apart for everything but I’ve known a few heavy hitters who splurged for one of their Flight Decks and found that it actually held up long enough to justify the price.
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Post by: Krooked antihero on March 06, 2023, 05:18:38 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
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Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
They still razor tail.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 06, 2023, 05:20:28 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
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Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
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They still razor tail.

Razor tailing more than others?
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
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Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
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Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
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They still razor tail.

On my 3rd flight.
It’s not the only board I use, but the one I definitely use the most, and it’s not going into its 3rd year.
Regripped once, and have redrilled the wheelbase (Powell boards don’t have a lot of short WB anyways) and have sanded down the tail a few times.

It will be retired soon, but yeah, they are fucking durable.

The other two got cut down into cruisers/fauxlerizers and they have a nice spring in them without ever having to worry about snapping them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 06, 2023, 07:31:14 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
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I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
[close]
They still razor tail.
[close]

Razor tailing more than others?

Almost / Darkstar / Blind / Enjoi all use DSM, single pressed, stick to the R7 or the R7 Impact / Impact Light, they start out extremely stiff and crispy but break in eventually. The impact ones don't razor as quickly as Powell Flight / Santa Cruz VX, very underrated and worth the money. The stiffness can be off putting for a start but stick with it beyond the 1st session and report back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 06, 2023, 07:57:22 AM
dude i never thought of that sanding down a razor tail you can turn a 6.75" tail into a 6.5" !!! genius!! I love the shorter tails.




On my 3rd flight.
and have sanded down the tail a few times.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 06, 2023, 08:19:38 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
[close]
They still razor tail.
[close]

Razor tailing more than others?
[close]

Almost / Darkstar / Blind / Enjoi all use DSM, single pressed, stick to the R7 or the R7 Impact / Impact Light, they start out extremely stiff and crispy but break in eventually. The impact ones don't razor as quickly as Powell Flight / Santa Cruz VX, very underrated and worth the money. The stiffness can be off putting for a start but stick with it beyond the 1st session and report back.

Who is going to have impact boards going forward? Or r7?
I wasn’t a huge fan, but it’s been 10 years. I’m not usually a stiff board guy… … … sometimes the results were fantastic, and then the next trick is just whiff, badly. But. Predictably you all have me wanting to try one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 06, 2023, 08:26:05 AM
Well we actually don't know if Dwindle owns the woodshop, or they are just partnered with DSM. As far as we know they are completely seprate entities.

So I imagine NHS boards will still be made in the exact same fashion as they have been. The dwindle brands though, those could end up in a different wood shop entirely or possibly discontinued. Or its possible they will continue on under the new management and keep making the boards. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 06, 2023, 09:19:45 AM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
[close]
They still razor tail.
[close]

Razor tailing more than others?
[close]

Almost / Darkstar / Blind / Enjoi all use DSM, single pressed, stick to the R7 or the R7 Impact / Impact Light, they start out extremely stiff and crispy but break in eventually. The impact ones don't razor as quickly as Powell Flight / Santa Cruz VX, very underrated and worth the money. The stiffness can be off putting for a start but stick with it beyond the 1st session and report back.

And they all have the same shape, really?
There’s full shape enjoi impact light decks too I saw though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ayjerry on March 06, 2023, 10:14:42 AM
anyone have any recommendations from shoes similar to Nike SB Chron 2 with more toe protection?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 06, 2023, 01:30:31 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
[close]
They still razor tail.
[close]

Razor tailing more than others?
[close]

Almost / Darkstar / Blind / Enjoi all use DSM, single pressed, stick to the R7 or the R7 Impact / Impact Light, they start out extremely stiff and crispy but break in eventually. The impact ones don't razor as quickly as Powell Flight / Santa Cruz VX, very underrated and worth the money. The stiffness can be off putting for a start but stick with it beyond the 1st session and report back.
[close]

And they all have the same shape, really?
There’s full shape enjoi impact light decks too I saw though
The shapes are specific to the size (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but yea all those DSM/Dwindle brands share the same shapes/dimensions/sizes. I think Palace may be the only one with some custom shapes.

Due to the single press, you can interchange between brands. An 8.0 Almost will be identical to an 8.0 Enjoi, Blind, etc. I don't think the concave changes that much between board widths but someone else can confirm.

When I used to skate 7.75, I mainly skated Enjoi/Almost and the decks were all identical. Pretty sick especially if you like to stick to one shape. I'm not sure if anyone else had the same experience, but from what I remember, those decks razor tailed faster than BBS wood. Almost 1-2 weeks earlier sometimes. Haven't skated them in years though so quality may have improved
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 06, 2023, 01:36:49 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?
[close]
They still razor tail.
[close]

Razor tailing more than others?
[close]

Almost / Darkstar / Blind / Enjoi all use DSM, single pressed, stick to the R7 or the R7 Impact / Impact Light, they start out extremely stiff and crispy but break in eventually. The impact ones don't razor as quickly as Powell Flight / Santa Cruz VX, very underrated and worth the money. The stiffness can be off putting for a start but stick with it beyond the 1st session and report back.
[close]

And they all have the same shape, really?
There’s full shape enjoi impact light decks too I saw though
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The shapes are specific to the size (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but yea all those DSM/Dwindle brands share the same shapes/dimensions/sizes. I think Palace may be the only one with some custom shapes.

Due to the single press, you can interchange between brands. An 8.0 Almost will be identical to an 8.0 Enjoi, Blind, etc. I don't think the concave changes that much between board widths but someone else can confirm.

When I used to skate 7.75, I mainly skated Enjoi/Almost and the decks were all identical. Pretty sick especially if you like to stick to one shape. I'm not sure if anyone else had the same experience, but from what I remember, those decks razor tailed faster than BBS wood. Almost 1-2 weeks earlier sometimes. Haven't skated them in years though so quality may have improved


Interesting that they all share the same shape. I wanted to stick to alien workshop / habitat / metal, but let’s see.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: thanksgiving on March 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
how do wheels get a stone ground finish/pre broken in? when they look dusty and feel soft to the touch on the contact patch. im curious as to what the machine is like but cant find any info
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 06, 2023, 04:02:13 PM
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The shapes are specific to the size (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but yea all those DSM/Dwindle brands share the same shapes/dimensions/sizes. I think Palace may be the only one with some custom shapes.

Due to the single press, you can interchange between brands. An 8.0 Almost will be identical to an 8.0 Enjoi, Blind, etc. I don't think the concave changes that much between board widths but someone else can confirm.

When I used to skate 7.75, I mainly skated Enjoi/Almost and the decks were all identical. Pretty sick especially if you like to stick to one shape. I'm not sure if anyone else had the same experience, but from what I remember, those decks razor tailed faster than BBS wood. Almost 1-2 weeks earlier sometimes. Haven't skated them in years though so quality may have improved
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Interesting that they all share the same shape. I wanted to stick to alien workshop / habitat / metal, but let’s see.


They do have an assortment of molds and options which do vary significantly, so check the top of board for info on that:

Full concave
Mellow concave
Steep kick
Mellow kick

Combinations like this are fairly common:

Full concave, steep kicks - Blind, Darkstar and most pricepoint decks
Mellow concave, steep kick - Almost decks, either for certain shapes or rider options
Mellow concave, mellow kick - one or two I had seen but forget exactly which, but not that common, only on pro boards for certain shapes or riders.


As to why don't everyone ride them?

I prefer the feel, concave and flex of (very mellow) BBS boards over everything else.  If a board is too steep in the tail or too stiff for me, I just can not skate it, so although DSM and some other woodshops make great boards, I come away with very sore / stressed ankles and my old broken body just can't handle those boards.

I can park my car on and flatten out the kicks of BBS boards without any issues and they last a long time for me, so I am happy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 06, 2023, 04:22:45 PM
how do wheels get a stone ground finish/pre broken in? when they look dusty and feel soft to the touch on the contact patch. im curious as to what the machine is like but cant find any info


Would "stoneground" actually be a grinding stone or something resembling it, but I haven't seen the process either, even though I have seen and skated enough of those sort of wheels to know what you are meaning.

I would imagine that they use a very coarse grit sanding wheel or something similar that takes the smooth finish off the wheel, much like skating coarse concrete ground will clean up your wheels very quickly if you are carving or leaning to turn, rather than just going in straight lines.


There is some information online about it, mostly from long board type of sites, but nothing explaining how it is done, so I would go with what I said above.  This is the most common line I see though:


"Wheels come with two different surface textures, stoneground and smooth. Stone ground surfaces are pre-broken in, which makes breaking into slides less difficult. Smooth surfaces usually have a glossy finish and provide maximum grip."




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 06, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
Mellow concave mellow kick would be nice.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on March 06, 2023, 09:51:31 PM
Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on March 06, 2023, 10:33:19 PM
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I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.
[close]
Use the threads on sale gear to get BBS decks for the same price you’re paying on decks that are breaking. Switch to wider boards and work on landing on bolts.
[close]

I have to admit ; I don’t get the first sentence.

Working on landing bolts is funny
Man, one time not landing bolts on a hard flip trick (don’t has to be a hard flip; to be a hard flip trick) and the deck is done.

You really think wider decks would help this? What would you consider a wide deck?
I‘m a pretty technical dude; so I’m not planning on getting too wide.
[close]
I’m assuming you’re Canadian, so you can find deals from shops here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122481.30

For me, it’s probably anything above 8.75-9”. As long as you’re not looking to do triple or quadruple flip tricks, you’ll probably be good on a bigger board with a short wheelbase. 8.5” is pretty standard and easy to get, but it all depends on your preference. I don’t know if you’re skating a 7.8”. If I were you, I’d go to a shop and see what feels right, and seems like it would be an improvement, without looking at the size labels.

Summary: Look into wider boards with shorter wheelbases, and try improving your technique for landing on bolts.
[close]

Thanks, didn’t know those sale threads
[close]

RIP your wallet

If you're a board breaker check out the Impact decks from Almost / Enjoi, you can find a bunch of them on clearance with the recent DSM kerfuffle. They are extremely stiff and durable, aren't as heavy as Crailtap's Pop Secret and don't razor as fast as NHS' VX decks.
[close]

Will check them out, thanks! It’s really frustrating. Few ply‘s broke the first 20 minutes after a front shuv. Three days later it broke completely on the other side from a varial heel.

The deck before broke from a hard flip. The one before that on a varial heel too.
 Those „front“ tricks are really problematic for me. I have to pop them super hard. I can’t even do a low front shuv.


The enjoi and almost are the same wood/ shape etc? They are made by DSM?


When those decks are longer lasting and the pop feel too, and they are the same price ; why is not everybody skating them?

woodshop directory

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 07, 2023, 01:04:13 AM
I break too many decks.
What are cheap decks I get into?

What would you do?


Shops here have Relikk or moose blanks. They suck i guess.


dig up @Mbrimson88 baseplate filing tip or maybe he will for you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 07, 2023, 01:39:21 AM
Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
it's preferable to avoid stacking
put them on the side (be sure they are 90° with the ground)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 07, 2023, 05:24:19 AM
Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?

I worked in a lumber yard and we weren’t supposed to sit plywood on it’s side lest it deform, so I don’t see why skateboards would be any different. Stacked together will have more constant and even pressure applied throughout the decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on March 07, 2023, 05:33:18 AM
jaccopo had his boards stacked upside down (graphic side up) in that followed video.  that seems like the wrong way to do it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 07, 2023, 06:13:15 AM
jaccopo had his boards stacked upside down (graphic side up) in that followed video.  that seems like the wrong way to do it

If that’s how he’s doing it, that’s how I’m doing it

(I don’t have the self restraint to not set up new stuff immediately, so all my stuff is partially skated anyway)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 07, 2023, 06:43:23 AM
Just make or buy a board rack?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 07, 2023, 07:17:46 AM
Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?

stack for sure
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 07, 2023, 10:51:43 AM
Powell flight
Santa Cruz vx
Creature vx
Enjoi and almost impact light

Anything else?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on March 07, 2023, 11:22:11 AM
If you wuould measure your wheels and 3 of them are a hair over 52 but 1 is already a hair under 51, where would you put it when you rotate them? Atm it's the back truck heel side one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on March 07, 2023, 11:40:31 AM
Powell flight
Santa Cruz vx
Creature vx
Enjoi and almost impact light

Anything else?

Girl pop secret
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on March 07, 2023, 04:20:41 PM
This may be a dumb question but would 8" axle truck on an 8.25 board be awkward or too magic carpety? I've never skated a board bigger than an 8 but I think I'm finally realizing that I'm a little too big to be comfortable on an 8 anymore. Not that big but 6'0 175lbs size 11 shoe. I just feel like my feet don't have enough room anymore. I gave my buddy's 8.38 a try and I think I'm ready to try a bigger board. Anyone have experience riding that size truck on an 8.25? Is it awkward feeling? I currently have some new Royal 139s and would like to keep them, but if needed I'll just buy some 144s. Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on March 07, 2023, 04:28:49 PM
This may be a dumb question but would 8" axle truck on an 8.25 board be awkward or too magic carpety? I've never skated a board bigger than an 8 but I think I'm finally realizing that I'm a little too big to be comfortable on an 8 anymore. Not that big but 6'0 175lbs size 11 shoe. I just feel like my feet don't have enough room anymore. I gave my buddy's 8.38 a try and I think I'm ready to try a bigger board. Anyone have experience riding that size truck on an 8.25? Is it awkward feeling? I currently have some new Royal 139s and would like to keep them, but if needed I'll just buy some 144s. Thanks!

Throw some extra washers on the insides of the axles and you'll be sweet, two or three is good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on March 07, 2023, 04:41:34 PM
This may be a dumb question but would 8" axle truck on an 8.25 board be awkward or too magic carpety? I've never skated a board bigger than an 8 but I think I'm finally realizing that I'm a little too big to be comfortable on an 8 anymore. Not that big but 6'0 175lbs size 11 shoe. I just feel like my feet don't have enough room anymore. I gave my buddy's 8.38 a try and I think I'm ready to try a bigger board. Anyone have experience riding that size truck on an 8.25? Is it awkward feeling? I currently have some new Royal 139s and would like to keep them, but if needed I'll just buy some 144s. Thanks!

I've done this a couple times when transitioning to wider decks. The magic carpet always throws me off too much for certain flatground tricks and grinds, and it doesn't feel right until I get wider trucks. Definitely try it first, though, and don't buy new trucks until you're sure you wanna make the move permanent. But yeah, like the guy above said, put two extra washers on the inside of each axle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jimgrude on March 07, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
If you wuould measure your wheels and 3 of them are a hair over 52 but 1 is already a hair under 51, where would you put it when you rotate them? Atm it's the back truck heel side one

Biggest wheel goes on the toeside back, second largest on the heelside back. The two smallest go up front. I don't think it matters which side.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 07, 2023, 04:52:34 PM
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This may be a dumb question but would 8" axle truck on an 8.25 board be awkward or too magic carpety? I've never skated a board bigger than an 8 but I think I'm finally realizing that I'm a little too big to be comfortable on an 8 anymore. Not that big but 6'0 175lbs size 11 shoe. I just feel like my feet don't have enough room anymore. I gave my buddy's 8.38 a try and I think I'm ready to try a bigger board. Anyone have experience riding that size truck on an 8.25? Is it awkward feeling? I currently have some new Royal 139s and would like to keep them, but if needed I'll just buy some 144s. Thanks!
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Throw some extra washers on the insides of the axles and you'll be sweet, two or three is good.

I think picking your truck size is more important than deck width (deck width being possibly the most overrated skateboard measurement…or is it).

What the others have said, toss some washers in there first. I was doing waaaaaay better when I didn’t overthink it. It is surprising how much the washers move the wheels out. For me, the magic carpet works a bit better, but now that I think about crap like this too much I can start hating how it looks. Which isn’t important. Until it is, and then. Sometimes you just gotta be stoked on your setup. So whatever it takes.
Some 8.25s thicker than others. I’ve got an 8.125 that is full, and feels larger than 8.25s I have. All to say that kick shape plays a role in all of this.

Short version: try and make your current trucks work imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 07, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
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Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
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it's preferable to avoid stacking
put them on the side (be sure they are 90° with the ground)

@tzhangdox I'd recommend not to stack them. I used to stack mine, and they developed stress cracks. I've since put them on the side, on a carpeted floor, and in a cool dark space. I haven't seen any real warping on any of them since.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on March 07, 2023, 05:16:17 PM
Thanks guys I think the washer thing is a good idea, I'll give it a try. I need to be smarter about buying gear too because now I have like 7 different 8" boards still in the plastic that I'm not sure I even want anymore. Might just keep like 2 and give the rest to kids at the park and feel like Santa lol. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 07, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
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If you wuould measure your wheels and 3 of them are a hair over 52 but 1 is already a hair under 51, where would you put it when you rotate them? Atm it's the back truck heel side one
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Biggest wheel goes on the toeside back, second largest on the heelside back. The two smallest go up front. I don't think it matters which side.


Agreed, but it usually depends on how a person skates too.  A lot of slides or really pushing into things can wear wheels unevenly, but for the most part, when changing around wheels, the smallest wheel always goes on the front heel side for me as that wears out the least.  Front toe can wear more just on the outside edge, as can the back toe a bit, but the back heel usually wears from the inside.  The back always wears down faster overall than the front.

Is there any noticeable coning on any of them?

Also helps if the wheels are symmetrical so if needed you can flip one or more over if they start coning or wear unevenly but are still of a size to leave them in the same position on the board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on March 07, 2023, 05:52:20 PM
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Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
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it's preferable to avoid stacking
put them on the side (be sure they are 90° with the ground)
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@tzhangdox I'd recommend not to stack them. I used to stack mine, and they developed stress cracks. I've since put them on the side, on a carpeted floor, and in a cool dark space. I haven't seen any real warping on any of them since.

insane as i've never had an issue stacking but i have had boards warp on their side
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 07, 2023, 06:42:46 PM
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Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
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it's preferable to avoid stacking
put them on the side (be sure they are 90° with the ground)
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@tzhangdox I'd recommend not to stack them. I used to stack mine, and they developed stress cracks. I've since put them on the side, on a carpeted floor, and in a cool dark space. I haven't seen any real warping on any of them since.
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insane as i've never had an issue stacking but i have had boards warp on their side

Wait. The boards developed ‘pressure cracks’ from just being stacked? What the heck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2023, 12:14:03 AM
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Powell flight
Santa Cruz vx
Creature vx
Enjoi and almost impact light

Anything else?
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Girl pop secret

Thx. All not that easy to get here. Pop secret specially, so when I always want the same shape it’s tough.

Is it true that enjoi is done?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 08, 2023, 01:10:44 AM
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Is it better to store boards stacked on top of each other or on the side?
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I worked in a lumber yard and we weren’t supposed to sit plywood on it’s side lest it deform, so I don’t see why skateboards would be any different. Stacked together will have more constant and even pressure applied throughout the decks.

make sense for large pieces of plywood because of the dimensions but not for boards that are shaped with different concaves, wheelbase, nose and tail angles. Stacking, depending on the weight, may cause deformation
we already discussed this topic somewhere, on the side is still the way to go for boards
materials engineer here ;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 08, 2023, 06:48:51 AM
I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 08, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.

Colombia?

https://www.the-house.com/mens-rain-jackets

Shopped there a few times for tops and wheels, inventory is limited but I can't argue with 40% off with code SAVINGS.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2023, 07:29:33 AM
I use a carhartt ‘storm defender’. Local skate shop was selling em too. Name is kinda…
Anyways, it works great for construction work, and is never out of place in the northwest.
Patagucci is sick, and if I had that kind of money I’d think about it.
Bike related, but I’ve had several chrome jackets that I thought would last ten minutes, ala some skate spitfire/4star type garment, that have instead lasted more like 10 years. Not sure if their stuff is still quality, but it was.

I guess I’d be asking: is this rain gear? Like grundens? Or a jacket that can handle some moisture, but needs to look kinda decent. Where I live, tech garments and tech employees are so intertwined, the look starts to kind of suck. My tech BROther had a mountain hardwear coat that would not die.
Long, longer, I appreciate spending more, on some nicer stuff that will last longer, and is hopefully somewhat ethical, but that’s a slippery slope at best.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on March 08, 2023, 07:33:02 AM
I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.

I'm on my second Torrent Shell, really good for around a city, eay to pack small, the hood has great adjustability and easy to layer with Hoods/Down Jackets.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 08, 2023, 07:53:11 AM
I use a carhartt ‘storm defender’. Local skate shop was selling em too. Name is kinda…
Anyways, it works great for construction work, and is never out of place in the northwest.
Patagucci is sick, and if I had that kind of money I’d think about it.
Bike related, but I’ve had several chrome jackets that I thought would last ten minutes, ala some skate spitfire/4star type garment, that have instead lasted more like 10 years. Not sure if their stuff is still quality, but it was.

I guess I’d be asking: is this rain gear? Like grundens? Or a jacket that can handle some moisture, but needs to look kinda decent. Where I live, tech garments and tech employees are so intertwined, the look starts to kind of suck. My tech BROther had a mountain hardwear coat that would not die.
Long, longer, I appreciate spending more, on some nicer stuff that will last longer, and is hopefully somewhat ethical, but that’s a slippery slope at best.

Just a rain jacket outer layer no need to look fancy. I forgot about mountain hardware though, they make nice stuff, ill check them out

edit: Oh just looked at mountain hardware site, think im gonna go with them. i like the fit on the threshold better than patagonia, looks a little more relaxed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on March 08, 2023, 08:16:57 AM
Do you take the sticker off your new trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on March 08, 2023, 08:46:41 AM
Do you take the sticker off your new trucks?

always
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 08, 2023, 08:56:05 AM
Do you take the sticker off your new trucks?

Yeah, usually gotta soak em or use Goo-Gone to get it all off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on March 08, 2023, 09:20:22 AM
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Do you take the sticker off your new trucks?
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Yeah, usually gotta soak em or use Goo-Gone to get it all off.

Ditto. I'm usually not that fussy about stuff but I really can't stand any glue residue whatsoever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 08, 2023, 09:42:44 AM
Do you take the sticker off your new trucks?

I rip it off, scratch at the remnants for a bit, give up on getting it all off, then scratch a little more off everytime i swap decks until its gone.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 08, 2023, 11:06:28 AM
Acetone on a tissue pals. Shit is gone instantly
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on March 08, 2023, 12:30:32 PM
Are Thunder and Venture currently the only trucks that are cast in North America?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on March 08, 2023, 12:45:56 PM
Are Thunder and Venture currently the only trucks that are cast in North America?


gullwing shadow
https://www.tactics.com/gullwing/shadow-dlx-skateboard-trucks/silver


tracker says "hand built in the USA" which probably just means assembled in the USA
 https://selectskateshop.com/collections/tracker-trucks/products/tracker-trucks-axis-161mm-set
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on March 08, 2023, 01:21:33 PM
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Are Thunder and Venture currently the only trucks that are cast in North America?
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gullwing shadow
https://www.tactics.com/gullwing/shadow-dlx-skateboard-trucks/silver


tracker says "hand built in the USA" which probably just means assembled in the USA
 https://selectskateshop.com/collections/tracker-trucks/products/tracker-trucks-axis-161mm-set

Thanks! Not trying to get of Indy/Ace, was just super curious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on March 08, 2023, 05:28:15 PM
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If you wuould measure your wheels and 3 of them are a hair over 52 but 1 is already a hair under 51, where would you put it when you rotate them? Atm it's the back truck heel side one
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Biggest wheel goes on the toeside back, second largest on the heelside back. The two smallest go up front. I don't think it matters which side.
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Agreed, but it usually depends on how a person skates too.  A lot of slides or really pushing into things can wear wheels unevenly, but for the most part, when changing around wheels, the smallest wheel always goes on the front heel side for me as that wears out the least.  Front toe can wear more just on the outside edge, as can the back toe a bit, but the back heel usually wears from the inside.  The back always wears down faster overall than the front.

Is there any noticeable coning on any of them?

Also helps if the wheels are symmetrical so if needed you can flip one or more over if they start coning or wear unevenly but are still of a size to leave them in the same position on the board.
Thanks! Yeah there is a little coning going on. I gonna rotate them like suggested by jimgrude and also flip them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 07:07:48 PM
Are Thunder and Venture currently the only trucks that are cast in North America?


And even then someone had said they are moving everything to Mexico soon enough, in line with other DLX manufacturing.

Not a worry to me, but I guess production at Ermico just became unviable for whatever reason, like a lot of things, so to keep costs down and prices not too high, that was the next step.


I can't recall which thread that was in, Truck thread, Venture or Thunder thread most likely, but that's ok.  Not really any crazy groundbreaking info to go with it, more just a point of interest.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2023, 11:49:39 PM
Why not more brands do that impact light stuff?

Seems pretty cool to have light decks that don’t break to easy and the price is just average.

Really thinking about trying one. Flipping into board and lipslide tricks on rails without breaking them sounds pretty good to me and I don’t get why I should get a normal board for the same price or even higher price when this really works.

It’s always the exact same shape too.

Never skated one, but how is this not superior to average decks?
Seriously interested in that question.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 09, 2023, 02:04:37 AM
Why not more brands do that impact light stuff?

Seems pretty cool to have light decks that don’t break to easy and the price is just average.

Really thinking about trying one. Flipping into board and lipslide tricks on rails without breaking them sounds pretty good to me and I don’t get why I should get a normal board for the same price or even higher price when this really works.

It’s always the exact same shape too.

Never skated one, but how is this not superior to average decks?
Seriously interested in that question.


Most of them are very specific in terms of support, eg some have the impact areas just round the trucks, others only right down the middle, some others are supported on top but not underneath, so boards can still break way more easily than some people might think.

I recall the number of all that sort of board that have come back broken to go for warranty and then been denied because the board still broke when the skater just landed too heavily on the wrong part of the board, which there wasn't really anything to do besides offer them a discount on their next board or just wear their unhappiness or whatever.


As to the price, I thought that any of those impact type boards were still a fair bit higher in price than a normal seven ply wood deck, but I haven't really looked at any for ages, or at least not since leaving the shop that used to get a lot of them in.

They don't seem that much more than other normal boards from looking at this lot:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/impact-light


I guess I was thinking more of this one, at $119.95 which is about twice the price of a normal board:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/mullen-uber-expanded-silver-8-25-skateboard-deck


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 09, 2023, 05:59:55 AM
Why not more brands do that impact light stuff?

A few makers and brands of skateboards have noticed that it's difficult-to-impossible to get skaters to stop skating 7-ply maple decks, and of course, destroying a deck is an important part of their business.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 09, 2023, 06:12:28 AM
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Why not more brands do that impact light stuff?

Seems pretty cool to have light decks that don’t break to easy and the price is just average.

Really thinking about trying one. Flipping into board and lipslide tricks on rails without breaking them sounds pretty good to me and I don’t get why I should get a normal board for the same price or even higher price when this really works.

It’s always the exact same shape too.

Never skated one, but how is this not superior to average decks?
Seriously interested in that question.
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Most of them are very specific in terms of support, eg some have the impact areas just round the trucks, others only right down the middle, some others are supported on top but not underneath, so boards can still break way more easily than some people might think.

I recall the number of all that sort of board that have come back broken to go for warranty and then been denied because the board still broke when the skater just landed too heavily on the wrong part of the board, which there wasn't really anything to do besides offer them a discount on their next board or just wear their unhappiness or whatever.


As to the price, I thought that any of those impact type boards were still a fair bit higher in price than a normal seven ply wood deck, but I haven't really looked at any for ages, or at least not since leaving the shop that used to get a lot of them in.

They don't seem that much more than other normal boards from looking at this lot:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/impact-light


I guess I was thinking more of this one, at $119.95 which is about twice the price of a normal board:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/mullen-uber-expanded-silver-8-25-skateboard-deck

Yea the impact lights were sick and were only $5-$10 more expensive than regular decks usually. I got them on sale a lot back in the day. The first 8.5 i ever rode was a haslam impact light.

The dwindle resin construction lasted longer for me than any other board i really liked it. The carbon inserts only improved my experience. I would buy these boards if they made one in a shape i liked with the right dimensions.

edit: that plain green youness one is fucking CALLING me. i cant do that short of a WB though =[
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 09, 2023, 06:49:55 AM
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Why not more brands do that impact light stuff?

Seems pretty cool to have light decks that don’t break to easy and the price is just average.

Really thinking about trying one. Flipping into board and lipslide tricks on rails without breaking them sounds pretty good to me and I don’t get why I should get a normal board for the same price or even higher price when this really works.

It’s always the exact same shape too.

Never skated one, but how is this not superior to average decks?
Seriously interested in that question.
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Most of them are very specific in terms of support, eg some have the impact areas just round the trucks, others only right down the middle, some others are supported on top but not underneath, so boards can still break way more easily than some people might think.

I recall the number of all that sort of board that have come back broken to go for warranty and then been denied because the board still broke when the skater just landed too heavily on the wrong part of the board, which there wasn't really anything to do besides offer them a discount on their next board or just wear their unhappiness or whatever.


As to the price, I thought that any of those impact type boards were still a fair bit higher in price than a normal seven ply wood deck, but I haven't really looked at any for ages, or at least not since leaving the shop that used to get a lot of them in.

They don't seem that much more than other normal boards from looking at this lot:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/impact-light


I guess I was thinking more of this one, at $119.95 which is about twice the price of a normal board:

https://almostskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/mullen-uber-expanded-silver-8-25-skateboard-deck
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Yea the impact lights were sick and were only $5-$10 more expensive than regular decks usually. I got them on sale a lot back in the day. The first 8.5 i ever rode was a haslam impact light.

The dwindle resin construction lasted longer for me than any other board i really liked it. The carbon inserts only improved my experience. I would buy these boards if they made one in a shape i liked with the right dimensions.

edit: that plain green youness one is fucking CALLING me. i cant do that short of a WB though =[

Goddamn that looks nice. Which is super fucking weird to be saying about an almost board.
I also like the length.
I won’t, but I would.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 09, 2023, 05:23:06 PM
How do I properly get my feet measured? Podiatrist? Running shoe store? My Brannock size is 2.5 sizes above what I currently wear and my left foot is 1 size larger than my right foot. Even when I try to go up half a size, I get terrible heel slip.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 09, 2023, 05:34:02 PM
How do I properly get my feet measured? Podiatrist? Running shoe store? My Brannock size is 2.5 sizes above what I currently wear and my left foot is 1 size larger than my right foot. Even when I try to go up half a size, I get terrible heel slip.


Even between some shoe brands, some will run big, others run small, so finding what works best in terms of specific shoes, not just one particular brand, is going to be the best thing to do, so either spend a while trying on a lot of different shoes in any place that has a good range, including whatever size you might usually go for, a size down or even a size up, just to see.

If you are in USA or other places that have half sizes you might be more in luck with finding something that works better for you.

Here we only have whole sizes, so getting something that fit exactly was a pain, but one thing I did learn to do with shoes that were just a bit snug was get a shoe stretcher and stretch them out, as well as widen the toe area for a specific ingrown toe nail issue on one foot.

Using a shoe stretcher on whatever shoe for your larger foot might work better than trying to get shoes that are either going to be too big on one foot just to fit the other, or struggling with other issues.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CHoX6hvlh8j/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 09, 2023, 05:50:59 PM
How do I properly get my feet measured? Podiatrist? Running shoe store? My Brannock size is 2.5 sizes above what I currently wear and my left foot is 1 size larger than my right foot. Even when I try to go up half a size, I get terrible heel slip.

I would definitely recommend going to a running store. A podiatrist sounds like a good call as well.
Full stop.
Opinion for rando time:
Size to your larger foot.
 Look up heel-lock lacing.
Further opinion and admonishing- who gives a fuck about heel slip! Compared to chronic foot and then back pain!? Get used to wearing a larger shoe.

But for real try a jogging store they see lots of bodies and have helped me and family members greatly, and for cheap. Big problems call for the doctors and it’s worth it. We spend a lot of time on the feet

Best of luck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 09, 2023, 06:13:53 PM
Thanks for the advice, guys. I’m checking out a running store tomorrow, and I’ll also get a referral for a podiatrist after starting physical therapy. Maybe, they’ll give me a good answer to whether go for the larger size or if I should stretch out the left one, in terms of skate shoes.

It’s pretty stupid of me to not size up for fear of loss of flip tricks, when my fear should be having feet that look like Jaws’.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sila on March 09, 2023, 06:27:02 PM
Mellowish concave/kicks anyone? Coming off an Enjoi with nice medium mellow concave but the kicks were a bit steep. Just got a cheap Magenta team board but I forgot that I don't really like the bbs 'moderate' concave shapes. I hate that feeling of stepping on a board and immediately feeling uncomfortable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on March 09, 2023, 08:27:10 PM
I’m pushin April today, mellow kicks mellow concave, fullish shapes

Edit: though they might be considered bbs moderate concave.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 10, 2023, 02:02:00 AM
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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on March 10, 2023, 03:34:36 AM
Mellowish concave/kicks anyone? Coming off an Enjoi with nice medium mellow concave but the kicks were a bit steep. Just got a cheap Magenta team board but I forgot that I don't really like the bbs 'moderate' concave shapes. I hate that feeling of stepping on a board and immediately feeling uncomfortable.
A friend yesterday gave me one sk8 mafia deck (HLC made) and it has mellow concave and kicks. I also have one sour (HLC again) that is kind of mellow/medium (i think their mellowest shape is S4). And the best mellow tail and cocave i had on ps scum co 2 years ago, so may be WKND, Snack, Quasi would do the job (although some have pretty steep nose). And a lot of people have said Toy/Foundation are one of the flatest. Check some pics here https://r-fskate.com
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 10, 2023, 03:40:30 AM
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Mellowish concave/kicks anyone? Coming off an Enjoi with nice medium mellow concave but the kicks were a bit steep. Just got a cheap Magenta team board but I forgot that I don't really like the bbs 'moderate' concave shapes. I hate that feeling of stepping on a board and immediately feeling uncomfortable.
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A friend yesterday gave me one sk8 mafia deck (HLC made) and it has mellow concave and kicks. I also have one sour (HLC again) that is kind of mellow/medium (i think their mellowest shape is S4). And the best mellow tail and cocave i had on ps scum co 2 years ago, so may be WKND, Snack, Quasi would do the job (although some have pretty steep nose). And a lot of people have said Toy/Foundation are one of the flatest. Check some pics here https://r-fskate.com

I found the Element boards from HLC / BBS / China to be medium mellow, tapered kicks on most sizes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 10, 2023, 06:20:54 AM
Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 10, 2023, 11:56:28 AM
Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm

I like short nose and tail so I’d be hyped
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: grapes on March 10, 2023, 01:49:03 PM
Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm

I picked one up wanting to try the short deck long wheelbase, but it was not as short as listed. I’ll dig it up and post the measurements
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 10, 2023, 03:47:56 PM
Anyone can explain to me which iphone (13 pro ) settings you would use for filming skate videos?

Absolute noob here. Hdr? High efficiency or most compatible?

1080p? 4K?

Hd?4k?

I don’t know anything about this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on March 10, 2023, 06:57:25 PM
Anyone can explain to me which iphone (13 pro ) settings you would use for filming skate videos?

Absolute noob here. Hdr? High efficiency or most compatible?

1080p? 4K?

Hd?4k?

I don’t know anything about this.
I actually have no idea whatsoever, but I’d bet some of the heads over on this “child board” dedicated to the topic might be able to hook you up w/ the knowledge you seek.
Check it out.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?board=31.0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 11, 2023, 01:16:33 AM
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Anyone can explain to me which iphone (13 pro ) settings you would use for filming skate videos?

Absolute noob here. Hdr? High efficiency or most compatible?

1080p? 4K?

Hd?4k?

I don’t know anything about this.
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I actually have no idea whatsoever, but I’d bet some of the heads over on this “child board” dedicated to the topic might be able to hook you up w/ the knowledge you seek.
Check it out.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?board=31.0


Oh wow, didn’t know that this existed! Thx!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 11, 2023, 07:07:49 AM
How do you sue your doctor after your dead?

I'm losing my cool.

I had chest pain and lost all power to my body. Helpless like a new born baby.

He said how about we restart your psych meds? I was like NO NO NEVER AGAIN!

He said why do you think you're having a heart attack?

I said I was on 265 mg of methadone for 8/14 years

I had endocarditis 2x....

Wait you had endocarditis?

I just went fuck. I'm going to die.

I could no longer hear his words from that point on
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 11, 2023, 05:43:12 PM
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Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm
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I picked one up wanting to try the short deck long wheelbase, but it was not as short as listed. I’ll dig it up and post the measurements


The 8.375 - 8.38 size is one that a lot of people skate, but I had never wanted to get that Palace board if the wheelbase was really 14.84 and I always thought that was a typo.

Is it really that long, or is it more just 14.48 or something?

Not a big deal really as they are usually more on the expensive side and not a brand I would usually buy for myself or anyone I know, but I always wondered about it and had never seen one in person.


For reference, the DLX 8.5 with 14.75 wb or even another board brand that has 8.75 with 15" wheelbase are a good overall length with normal kicks but they are both 32.5 or more long.  The only board I have seen with 14.75 or bigger wheelbase that is under 32 was a cruiser board and both kicks were so short it wasn't really an option as a normal board, especially the nose, but that is just my observations.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 11, 2023, 10:56:55 PM
Has anyone ever dyed a pair of skate shoes with wearable results? Obviously the fucked up colors are always the cheapest so I've been wondering if it'd be possible to dye them into something that isn't hideous...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 12, 2023, 05:05:59 AM
Has anyone ever dyed a pair of skate shoes with wearable results? Obviously the fucked up colors are always the cheapest so I've been wondering if it'd be possible to dye them into something that isn't hideous...


There was a time there when it seemed every other pair of shoes was messed with in some way, but I think the most wearable results were from either liquid shoe polish on suede material, or just plain old spray paint on whatever material including leather, suede and canvas.  Black only in my case.

The ollie or wear areas returned to whatever colour they were as the paint / outer layer wore off, but that sort of looked ok on some of the shoes anyway.

I have taped round the white trim and just given the upper a good dose of matt black spray a few times in recent years and it turned out pretty well, sometimes giving them a touch up if I really needed it.


As for using dye, yes it does work if the shoe hasn't been treated with a colour fast finish or waterproofer, but it would then be a good idea to use a dye fix so you don't get dye running through your socks and dye your feet every other time you sweat a bit when skating in them.

This link should help:

https://www.ritdye.com/dye-your-shoes/


There are a ton of "How to dye your shoes" links and videos from google too.  I didn't watch it but this one comes up first with a few different searches:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2FPUxHrUyU

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 12, 2023, 05:23:25 AM
How do you sue your doctor after your dead?

I'm losing my cool.

I had chest pain and lost all power to my body. Helpless like a new born baby.

He said how about we restart your psych meds? I was like NO NO NEVER AGAIN!

He said why do you think you're having a heart attack?

I said I was on 265 mg of methadone for 8/14 years

I had endocarditis 2x....

Wait you had endocarditis?

I just went fuck. I'm going to die.

I could no longer hear his words from that point on

You ok mate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: grapes on March 12, 2023, 01:05:10 PM
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Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm
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I picked one up wanting to try the short deck long wheelbase, but it was not as short as listed. I’ll dig it up and post the measurements
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The 8.375 - 8.38 size is one that a lot of people skate, but I had never wanted to get that Palace board if the wheelbase was really 14.84 and I always thought that was a typo.

Is it really that long, or is it more just 14.48 or something?

Not a big deal really as they are usually more on the expensive side and not a brand I would usually buy for myself or anyone I know, but I always wondered about it and had never seen one in person.


For reference, the DLX 8.5 with 14.75 wb or even another board brand that has 8.75 with 15" wheelbase are a good overall length with normal kicks but they are both 32.5 or more long.  The only board I have seen with 14.75 or bigger wheelbase that is under 32 was a cruiser board and both kicks were so short it wasn't really an option as a normal board, especially the nose, but that is just my observations.

Yeah man the wheelbase is right, 14.8. And length measures 32. I ended up giving it away because I’m 5’8 and that was not working for me. I was going through some madness and trying completely opposite wheelbases for a minute
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 12, 2023, 04:09:25 PM
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Has anyone ridden the 8.37 palace shape with the 14.84 wheelbase? Is that wheelbase measurement accurate? I really want to try one if so, but that seems crazy for a board thats 31.13 long wan to make sure its not a typo/joke/they measured from the other side of the holes or something.

edit: this is the specific one im looking at https://shop-usa.palaceskateboards.com/products/4wu1jp0bubpm
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I picked one up wanting to try the short deck long wheelbase, but it was not as short as listed. I’ll dig it up and post the measurements
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The 8.375 - 8.38 size is one that a lot of people skate, but I had never wanted to get that Palace board if the wheelbase was really 14.84 and I always thought that was a typo.

Is it really that long, or is it more just 14.48 or something?

Not a big deal really as they are usually more on the expensive side and not a brand I would usually buy for myself or anyone I know, but I always wondered about it and had never seen one in person.


For reference, the DLX 8.5 with 14.75 wb or even another board brand that has 8.75 with 15" wheelbase are a good overall length with normal kicks but they are both 32.5 or more long.  The only board I have seen with 14.75 or bigger wheelbase that is under 32 was a cruiser board and both kicks were so short it wasn't really an option as a normal board, especially the nose, but that is just my observations.
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Yeah man the wheelbase is right, 14.8. And length measures 32. I ended up giving it away because I’m 5’8 and that was not working for me. I was going through some madness and trying completely opposite wheelbases for a minute


Thanks for the reply.

Sure sounds weird, but that's ok - everyone has their preferences.

I would think that drilling in the tail 3/8" might feel a whole lot better than what it was and still have a reasonable wheelbase, but the effort is often not worth it, especially if you don't have the tools or the interest and just want it gone.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 14, 2023, 08:07:35 AM
What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on March 14, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?

thunder 149 (i think)
thunder 147-148 (ishod top bushing method)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 14, 2023, 09:42:45 AM
didnt realize so many people like to hot rod
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 14, 2023, 09:51:10 AM
didnt realize so many people like to hot rod
the hot rod isn't that bad whenever the trucks are 0.25" wider than the board. In my experience, the wheels sit pretty much flush with the rails of the deck. 5.6 Ventures on 8" decks feels great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 14, 2023, 10:22:48 AM
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What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers

When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on March 14, 2023, 10:33:33 AM
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What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
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When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.

thanks for the correction i’ll edit the post
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 14, 2023, 10:36:45 AM
has anyone ever tried PVC Copers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7JLDMe9CSc

if you ollie into a 5050, would that work? or is that too mcuh pressure on it and you will break them? he is just doing slash grinds on QPs and stuff. I have some spots in mind where its a bit too heat to lacquer but the ledges would probably grind with these + a tiny bit of drive by wax.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Terminal on March 14, 2023, 11:53:38 AM
Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzle on March 14, 2023, 12:06:37 PM
Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...

Amazingly enough, Maple was the first “popular” brand that pressed boards in China, I always thought it was weird that MJ never brought this up when everybody started ragging on Crail for doing the same thing. I don’t know the actual name of the woodshop (had some Chinese name) but they weren’t even specializing in skateboards, they did furniture manufacturing and when maple was negotiating pricing for their first run of boards they got a sample from the woodshop and were blown away by the quality. To this day I think the anti-China shops thing is a bit overblown because of this, Crail just had bad QA problems that gave it a bit of a stigma.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on March 14, 2023, 12:09:23 PM
Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...

Watson Laminates, it was it's inhouse brand for a while.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 14, 2023, 12:34:59 PM
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What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
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When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.

@Idk thanks for asking this question.
@LebowskisRug good shout on asking the friend. I thought I had read something about him doing the risers at one point…dunno. The hangers of his truck in that dope promo, in one of the shots, looked like 148s.
147s are the true shit tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 14, 2023, 12:58:55 PM
You think skating is a good leg workout?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 14, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
You think skating is a good leg workout?

Skating big bowls is alright. I don't think anything else in skating would be intense enough on the legs to be a workout.
Will it build endurance? Yeah, but not as much as cycling.
Will it build muscle? No, go and lift weights if that's what you want.
Will you burn calories/lose weight? Yes if you are skating a big bowl
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 14, 2023, 01:29:47 PM
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You think skating is a good leg workout?
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Skating big bowls is alright. I don't think anything else in skating would be intense enough on the legs to be a workout.
Will it build endurance? Yeah, but not as much as cycling.
Will it build muscle? No, go and lift weights if that's what you want.
Will you burn calories/lose weight? Yes if you are skating a big bowl

Insane take. Jumping is not a workout? There's a reason some people puke after a 1min contest line.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 14, 2023, 01:51:24 PM
I ran a Fitbit which aren’t that accurate and I think I have a fast metabolism/burn calories easy and in two hours of skating I burned 1000……

Skating you are just really engaged which I think burns calories.  Snowboarding, same thing and I’m on a chairlift most of the time….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 14, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
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You think skating is a good leg workout?
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Skating big bowls is alright. I don't think anything else in skating would be intense enough on the legs to be a workout.
Will it build endurance? Yeah, but not as much as cycling.
Will it build muscle? No, go and lift weights if that's what you want.
Will you burn calories/lose weight? Yes if you are skating a big bowl
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Insane take. Jumping is not a workout? There's a reason some people puke after a 1min contest line.

No, doing one jump every couple of minutes if you're trying to land a ledge trick or something is not a workout
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 14, 2023, 02:54:27 PM
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What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
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When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.
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thanks for the correction i’ll edit the post

Genuinely wondering, what do you do with this type of info? Do you try out a similar setup?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 14, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
what if somebody like shanahan or bilyeu got dropped from dc? would their entire career implode since everything about them revolves around that specific look?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 14, 2023, 03:21:06 PM
what if somebody like shanahan or bilyeu got dropped from dc? would their entire career implode since everything about them revolves around that specific look?
New Balance. Nike SB. Adidas.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Terminal on March 14, 2023, 03:48:41 PM
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Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...
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Watson Laminates, it was it's inhouse brand for a while.
Appreciated
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 14, 2023, 05:39:44 PM
Maple was one of the most underrated brands for its time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on March 14, 2023, 08:29:13 PM
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You think skating is a good leg workout?
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Skating big bowls is alright. I don't think anything else in skating would be intense enough on the legs to be a workout.
Will it build endurance? Yeah, but not as much as cycling.
Will it build muscle? No, go and lift weights if that's what you want.
Will you burn calories/lose weight? Yes if you are skating a big bowl
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Insane take. Jumping is not a workout? There's a reason some people puke after a 1min contest line.
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No, doing one jump every couple of minutes if you're trying to land a ledge trick or something is not a workout

Then why am I sweaty tired and sore after skating a ledge for an hour but none of that if I ride my bike for an hour?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 14, 2023, 09:58:15 PM
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Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...
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Watson Laminates, it was it's inhouse brand for a while.
[close]
Appreciated

this is not how i remember Watson wood from that era at all, granted i always went for Prime/world, blind, 101 boards.

i remember Waston being the opposite and most those Maple dudes would ride blank Prime wood and many later leaving to ride for Co.'s that used Prime wood, A-team, Enjoi, ect....

one thing i remember for sure is their stains sucked and i'm pretty sure it's because they never changed out their dye tanks, their stains were always dingy and gross.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on March 15, 2023, 01:37:27 AM
I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on March 15, 2023, 02:24:57 AM
If I had to choose between independent and thunder, which one is more prone to speed wobble?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 15, 2023, 03:12:44 AM
I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?

Just go for the rubber grip, can always re-grip it later when he gets older
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 15, 2023, 03:43:10 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
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Just go for the rubber grip, can always re-grip it later when he gets older

Couldn't you basically put everything on top of a board with the right glue? Cork, Velvet or Grandmas old carpet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 15, 2023, 03:53:55 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
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Just go for the rubber grip, can always re-grip it later when he gets older
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Couldn't you basically put everything on top of a board with the right glue? Cork, Velvet or Grandmas old carpet.

yes, Gou Miyagi does that with carpets and stuff
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Terminal on March 15, 2023, 04:35:44 AM
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Does anyone know which woodshop supplied the original "Maple Skateboards" brand? Team was Donger, Carney, MJ, Hsu, Knight, Mayhew and so on.

Only ever had one, circa 97, but it was the lightest, most pop, best shape board I ever had (excluding an amazing Stereo). Been bugging me for a long time who pressed that brand...
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Watson Laminates, it was it's inhouse brand for a while.
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Appreciated
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this is not how i remember Watson wood from that era at all, granted i always went for Prime/world, blind, 101 boards.

i remember Waston being the opposite and most those Maple dudes would ride blank Prime wood and many later leaving to ride for Co.'s that used Prime wood, A-team, Enjoi, ect....

one thing i remember for sure is their stains sucked and i'm pretty sure it's because they never changed out their dye tanks, their stains were always dingy and gross.
Interesting. Maybe I just got lucky as I only ever rode one of them, but honestly one of the best boards I ever had.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on March 15, 2023, 05:48:01 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
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Just go for the rubber grip, can always re-grip it later when he gets older
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Couldn't you basically put everything on top of a board with the right glue? Cork, Velvet or Grandmas old carpet.

Yes. I'll try an old yoga mat first.
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Post by: Ok on March 15, 2023, 07:07:51 AM
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What’s Bobby Dekeyzers setup?
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
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When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.
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thanks for the correction i’ll edit the post
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Genuinely wondering, what do you do with this type of info? Do you try out a similar setup?

I am guilty of this, for sure.
Biggest ‘madness’ contributor: watching someone skate, and wanting to emulate. It is wack to type out/think/do, but yeah, there it is. Influenced.
As an example, I rarely get time to ‘really’ skate. It’s usually just a few minutes here and there, and generally something else is going on (kids, pets, partner). With that type of scenario, whatever I’m on doesn’t matter. The last few times out I’ve ridden a 4+ year old strangelove that has a graphic that makes me smile, ace trucks, and normal sized wheels. For just rolling around, this works great. I’m old and I’ll never break this, if the skate industry ceased and all of the gear was unavailable, I’d be able to skate longer than my body would last.
But then I see a Wade post of him skating flatground and I want 147s, perfect deck, small wheels. Or Puleo, or …Jacopo. BDK. Etc.
Changing one’s setups to mimic a pro’s is honestly pretty weird, doesn’t make sense. Bodies are different, and then the chasm between the levels ability cannot be overstated.
But yeah.
I know it’s kooky, but at some level, isn’t this how the skateboard industry works? People get psyched on someone’s skating and then are inspired to buy a graphic, a tshirt, a type of bearing?
Basically my entire time on slap could be summed up as: ‘which computer is the best for hacking’




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Totally unrelated: what was gottwigs setup in that last reel he posted with the lazer
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2023, 07:45:21 AM
If I had to choose between independent and thunder, which one is more prone to speed wobble?


Indy will turn a little quicker overall and is taller so will allow for more turns (like speed wobbles) but I would go one step further and say that it is all down to preference of bushings or how loose or tight your trucks are, angle strength and how you set up your board, eg risers or not.

We used to have a few good runs into the CBD from where we parked our cars and I wouldn't say there was one truck brand that didn't throw people off at one point or another, both Indy and Thunder included, but Venture came out on top overall I think.  Dudes that had those trucks back in the day were running them way tighter than others.

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Post by: rawbertson. on March 15, 2023, 07:56:25 AM
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thunder 149 (i think)
jessup
quasi 8.25
54mm conical fulls
1/8th risers
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When I asked someone that knows him they said he skates 147s and sometimes 148s, doing the Ishod top bushing thing with 147s.
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thanks for the correction i’ll edit the post
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Genuinely wondering, what do you do with this type of info? Do you try out a similar setup?
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I am guilty of this, for sure.
Biggest ‘madness’ contributor: watching someone skate, and wanting to emulate. It is wack to type out/think/do, but yeah, there it is. Influenced.
As an example, I rarely get time to ‘really’ skate. It’s usually just a few minutes here and there, and generally something else is going on (kids, pets, partner). With that type of scenario, whatever I’m on doesn’t matter. The last few times out I’ve ridden a 4+ year old strangelove that has a graphic that makes me smile, ace trucks, and normal sized wheels. For just rolling around, this works great. I’m old and I’ll never break this, if the skate industry ceased and all of the gear was unavailable, I’d be able to skate longer than my body would last.
But then I see a Wade post of him skating flatground and I want 147s, perfect deck, small wheels. Or Puleo, or …Jacopo. BDK. Etc.
Changing one’s setups to mimic a pro’s is honestly pretty weird, doesn’t make sense. Bodies are different, and then the chasm between the levels ability cannot be overstated.
But yeah.
I know it’s kooky, but at some level, isn’t this how the skateboard industry works? People get psyched on someone’s skating and then are inspired to buy a graphic, a tshirt, a type of bearing?
Basically my entire time on slap could be summed up as: ‘which computer is the best for hacking’

i copy franky's setup but i have my own twist always (in this case i ride Ace's instead of thunders)


I actually find speed wobble is not so much about how loose your trucks are - i can have super tight or super loose trucks i dont think it matters. once you get going decently fast everything will wobble. its all about keeping your weight in the correct place. i think you want to keep it more back seat its kinda hard for me to describe without actually being in the moment. i have been bombing a lot of hills lately though and my trucks are hella loose. did one on ventures as well which hardly turn at all, and it felt the same. if i start movin around trying to turn while at the high speed you will start wobbling. you can fight it back though. this is where i think loose trucks might actually help you get it back to the position you want. i dont know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Allen. on March 15, 2023, 08:54:43 AM
Anyone know where Terp is getting boards pressed in Ohio?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfrontshuv on March 15, 2023, 02:57:46 PM
Anyone know where Terp is getting boards pressed in Ohio?

somewhere near the train that exploded
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 15, 2023, 03:23:36 PM
i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 15, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.

Agreed
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2023, 06:03:16 PM
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i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.
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Agreed

This is very true.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: wurfnnjs on March 15, 2023, 07:35:59 PM
Anyone have like a list or catalog of every shape Antihero has made? idk just curious and would like to see them all next to each other.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2023, 08:54:51 PM
Anyone have like a list or catalog of every shape Antihero has made? idk just curious and would like to see them all next to each other.


Would be sick. T
Obviously I’m old and nostalgic, but the early anti hero and Krooked stuff was pretty rad, to me. Some of it now is too. And some seems more paint by numbers.
The old shapes would be interesting. Seeing all of the little ass boards they used to make would be dope
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2023, 09:35:43 PM
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Anyone have like a list or catalog of every shape Antihero has made? idk just curious and would like to see them all next to each other.
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Would be sick. T
Obviously I’m old and nostalgic, but the early anti hero and Krooked stuff was pretty rad, to me. Some of it now is too. And some seems more paint by numbers.
The old shapes would be interesting. Seeing all of the little ass boards they used to make would be dope


I have a lot of the old catalogs and recall most of their boards over the years, but by no means a complete list.


The DLX Shapes thread is here though:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0


That is about as close as you are going to get, but I can put up some stuff there too if you are really keen.


Edit:

Even just going back to the first page of that thread from 2015 and comparing catalog pics of boards back then - most are still online too, just google them - and it is interesting to see how different boards are now, as well as what some people had been asking for.

Here's a couple just to get you started:


https://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/ah.html


https://www.dlxsf.com/fall15/ah.html

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 16, 2023, 09:32:31 AM
i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.

And suddenly it is 2 am, you get out of bed and measuring your speed rings (they all had the same width).
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Post by: Nacho Maildrop on March 16, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
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i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.
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And suddenly it is 2 am, you get out of bed and measuring your speed rings (they all had the same width).

Not even going to front that I don't get VERY upset if my speed rings aren't all the same.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 16, 2023, 12:20:18 PM
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i feel like the less you skate the more madness you get. no disrespect to anyone. i get it when it's raining and i can't skate.
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And suddenly it is 2 am, you get out of bed and measuring your speed rings (they all had the same width).
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Not even going to front that I don't get VERY upset if my speed rings aren't all the same.

Correct. Uncomfortable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on March 17, 2023, 04:48:04 AM
Is CCS using an old stock photo of the OG es accels?

https://shop.ccs.com/products/es-accel-og-shoes-black (https://shop.ccs.com/products/es-accel-og-shoes-black)

I was looking for a pair on sale and the CCS site popped up. I was confused because the photo they use looks like what I'm told the original accels used to during their first run. Slimmer profile, with a longer toe (but not the accel slim). They don't look anything like that currently irl or on the es skateboarding website either.

https://esskateboarding.com/products/accel-og-black (https://esskateboarding.com/products/accel-og-black)

It'd be sick if they'd go back to the old mold but I doubt if they were that CCS would have the pics changed first on the listing. Anyway just curious if anyone knows, I realize this is very niche.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bill Salt on March 17, 2023, 05:26:39 AM
this one is pretty good
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kelbywest on March 17, 2023, 06:30:23 AM
Anyone ever buy from https://www.noveltyskateboard.com ?

They have a deck from the Loose Company I've had my eye on for $44 shipped to the US. Just seems too good to be true but they have a shit ton of skate stuff on their website.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on March 17, 2023, 06:32:47 AM
Anyone ever buy from https://www.noveltyskateboard.com ?

They have a deck from the Loose Company I've had my eye on for $44 shipped to the US. Just seems too good to be true but they have a shit ton of skate stuff on their website.

Are they maple or like, birch?
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Post by: kelbywest on March 17, 2023, 06:44:14 AM
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Anyone ever buy from https://www.noveltyskateboard.com ?

They have a deck from the Loose Company I've had my eye on for $44 shipped to the US. Just seems too good to be true but they have a shit ton of skate stuff on their website.
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Are they maple or like, birch?

Maple according to the description. The Novelty site basically mimics the description from the company's

Loose: https://looseskateboardco.com/product/the-loose-company-sitting-room-deck/

Novelty: https://www.noveltyskateboard.com/the-loose-company-sitting-room-8-skateboard-deck-multi-limited-edition/?attribute_size=8%22
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 18, 2023, 03:58:05 AM
Baker is BBS

Does all the Baker decks got the holografic sticker of BBS between the truck holes?
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Post by: eSK3 on March 18, 2023, 05:25:23 AM
Currently skating Ace lows again but the madness is nagging. Thinking about a set of venture lows when orchard opens. Can I get some feedback on how the pop is gonna change? Skating a 14.25WB hopps if that helps.
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Post by: sle_epy on March 18, 2023, 05:47:21 AM
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Anyone ever buy from https://www.noveltyskateboard.com ?

They have a deck from the Loose Company I've had my eye on for $44 shipped to the US. Just seems too good to be true but they have a shit ton of skate stuff on their website.
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Are they maple or like, birch?
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Maple according to the description. The Novelty site basically mimics the description from the company's

Loose: https://looseskateboardco.com/product/the-loose-company-sitting-room-deck/

Novelty: https://www.noveltyskateboard.com/the-loose-company-sitting-room-8-skateboard-deck-multi-limited-edition/?attribute_size=8%22

Looks beyond sketch to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 18, 2023, 05:54:26 AM
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Anyone ever buy from https://www.noveltyskateboard.com ?

They have a deck from the Loose Company I've had my eye on for $44 shipped to the US. Just seems too good to be true but they have a shit ton of skate stuff on their website.
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Are they maple or like, birch?
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Maple according to the description. The Novelty site basically mimics the description from the company's

Loose: https://looseskateboardco.com/product/the-loose-company-sitting-room-deck/

Novelty: https://www.noveltyskateboard.com/the-loose-company-sitting-room-8-skateboard-deck-multi-limited-edition/?attribute_size=8%22
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Looks beyond sketch to me.

I have seen in the other threads that Maple doesnt apparently mean anything , it could actually be birch. cant remember what the term is that BBS and PS use to distinguish the "good stuff" but check this thread out , lots of boards are branded as "Hard Rock Maple" and are trash.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 18, 2023, 06:00:20 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
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Just go for the rubber grip, can always re-grip it later when he gets older
Alien workshop had a board once that had rubber grip like a classic table tennis paddle. It worked good enough.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 18, 2023, 06:04:56 AM
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You think skating is a good leg workout?
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Skating big bowls is alright. I don't think anything else in skating would be intense enough on the legs to be a workout.
Will it build endurance? Yeah, but not as much as cycling.
Will it build muscle? No, go and lift weights if that's what you want.
Will you burn calories/lose weight? Yes if you are skating a big bowl
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Insane take. Jumping is not a workout? There's a reason some people puke after a 1min contest line.
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No, doing one jump every couple of minutes if you're trying to land a ledge trick or something is not a workout
The issue should be more with the word "good" rather than "workout". I'd say no simply because you don't really work out both legs evenly. Couple years ago I started riding a bike to go skate and I feel like that adds a bit to a session where I could actually class it as getting exercise.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 18, 2023, 06:58:56 AM
Baker is BBS

Does all the Baker decks got the holografic sticker of BBS between the truck holes?

Somebody help please?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 18, 2023, 07:44:13 AM
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Baker is BBS

Does all the Baker decks got the holografic sticker of BBS between the truck holes?
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Somebody help please?

Considering it's the new thing on BBS made boards, they should have that yes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 18, 2023, 09:16:46 AM
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Baker is BBS

Does all the Baker decks got the holografic sticker of BBS between the truck holes?
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Somebody help please?
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Considering it's the new thing on BBS made boards, they should have that yes

Do you mean only the decks made from X year got that sticker?
Bbs didnt use to put such stickers?
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Post by: BALARGUE on March 18, 2023, 09:24:37 AM
the holographic sticker is fairly recent (for approx a year and a half)

Edit: my bad and sorry for the misleading info, i just checked on a couple boards from BBS i have in stock at the shop (less than 3 months old), Antihero, Krooked, Passport and they don't have the holographic sticker

maybe the new thing is not having that holographic sticker
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on March 18, 2023, 09:41:31 AM
What happened to the Quantum thread?
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Post by: BALARGUE on March 18, 2023, 09:50:49 AM
What happened to the Quantum thread?

weird
i was checking it earlier today ("New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings" in my history) but it seems gone now
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 18, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
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What happened to the Quantum thread?
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weird
i was checking it earlier today ("New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings" in my history) but it seems gone now

@Quantum_Bearing_Science explain please
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Post by: devils acrobat on March 18, 2023, 12:02:06 PM
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What happened to the Quantum thread?
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weird
i was checking it earlier today ("New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings" in my history) but it seems gone now
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@Quantum_Bearing_Science explain please
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2023, 12:50:10 PM
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What happened to the Quantum thread?
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weird
i was checking it earlier today ("New Skater-Designed Ceramic Bearings" in my history) but it seems gone now
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@Quantum_Bearing_Science explain please
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Well well well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 18, 2023, 01:02:54 PM
They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 18, 2023, 01:07:26 PM
i wasnt following the thread, were people actually criticizing the bearings? when i looked at it month ago everyone seemed fairly happy with them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 18, 2023, 01:20:21 PM
They deleted the thread after not being able to take any sort of criticism. I was typing out a reply giving them some advice about not being passive aggressive since they’re already using the boards for free market research and it wouldn’t post. Refreshed the shoes and gear section and it was gone. The tides of opinion can change real quick over here


For the record I’m skating their fusion bearings right now and they’re really fast. Maybe the fastest bearings I’ve ever skated. Four of them seized up after 6ish weeks of skating. I cleaned and lubed them up this morning, so we’ll see how long they’ll stay good
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 18, 2023, 01:40:46 PM
They deleted the thread after not being able to take any sort of criticism. I was typing out a reply giving them some advice about not being passive aggressive since they’re already using the boards for free market research and it wouldn’t post. Refreshed the shoes and gear section and it was gone. The tides of opinion can change real quick over here


For the record I’m skating their fusion bearings right now and they’re really fast. Maybe the fastest bearings I’ve ever skated. Four of them seized up after 6ish weeks of skating. I cleaned and lubed them up this morning, so we’ll see how long they’ll stay good

6 weeks seems about normal for me for a bearing to seize up. Although iirc the quantum bearings were upwards of $60 compared to reds which also last 6 weeks, sometimes a lot more
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 18, 2023, 01:52:58 PM
They deleted the thread after not being able to take any sort of criticism. I was typing out a reply giving them some advice about not being passive aggressive since they’re already using the boards for free market research and it wouldn’t post. Refreshed the shoes and gear section and it was gone. The tides of opinion can change real quick over here


For the record I’m skating their fusion bearings right now and they’re really fast. Maybe the fastest bearings I’ve ever skated. Four of them seized up after 6ish weeks of skating. I cleaned and lubed them up this morning, so we’ll see how long they’ll stay good
I've had bones swiss for 3+ years that never seized the wheel, they wouldn't move sometimes but only because of axle slippage.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 18, 2023, 02:19:58 PM
ive never had a swiss seize either
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quantum_Bearing_Science on March 18, 2023, 02:39:32 PM
They deleted the thread after not being able to take any sort of criticism. I was typing out a reply giving them some advice about not being passive aggressive since they’re already using the boards for free market research and it wouldn’t post. Refreshed the shoes and gear section and it was gone. The tides of opinion can change real quick over here


For the record I’m skating their fusion bearings right now and they’re really fast. Maybe the fastest bearings I’ve ever skated. Four of them seized up after 6ish weeks of skating. I cleaned and lubed them up this morning, so we’ll see how long they’ll stay good

Actually, quite a few people recently had called us out for our “stealth marketing” and using this forum to advertise.  That was not what I intended but I can see it.

And the last few pages were just becoming me and a couple of people who had bad luck with the bearings going back and forth.

I thought it was appropriate to end it.  Maybe not.  So be it.

We have no problem with criticism.  There was quite a bit in that thread and I never shied away from it.

Not really looking to derail this thread further.
  If people like the bearings, that’s outstanding.  Please let others know.

If you don’t, that’s ok as well.  Just let us know so we can improve as a whole or fix your specific issue.

Thanks 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2023, 02:41:25 PM
They deleted the thread after not being able to take any sort of criticism. I was typing out a reply giving them some advice about not being passive aggressive since they’re already using the boards for free market research and it wouldn’t post. Refreshed the shoes and gear section and it was gone. The tides of opinion can change real quick over here


For the record I’m skating their fusion bearings right now and they’re really fast. Maybe the fastest bearings I’ve ever skated. Four of them seized up after 6ish weeks of skating. I cleaned and lubed them up this morning, so we’ll see how long they’ll stay good


Allow me to tilt the brim on my new era tinfoil

The passive aggressive/aggressive comments, the snark, seemed odd, when before it was aaaaall love. I thought the comment about the berries and them, and then the deleting of the thread was funny, because that account had a bit of that vibe. That inability to take any criticism.

For what it’s worth, I made a dumb comment, that was exaggerated and poorly worded, at best, about their bearing not outlasting a deck.
The bearings started off very fast, when hand spun on the axle, but after a short time (10 plus sessions of flatground), slowed significantly. At the time of my comment, I was blathering about going to buy some Swiss 6, which have been the best bearings I’ve ever had. The account insinuated user error, and also pointed out that the their bearings outlive one deck. I grumbled, and decided to put away my wallet and cleaned the bearings. Popped the shields, tossed them in some new wheels, but on some very old stage 10 indys with not the freshest of looking axles. The bearings are decent, ish. Maybe on the ace axle they’d run better, those axles are noticeably nicer looking.
I’ve got some mini logo bearings in a different setup, with the shields, that have never been cleaned, that run faster. My Swiss are faster. Feeling. None of this has been quantified by me, but that’s never stopped any of us before, and it wasn’t a problem when folks were saying nice things.
I’ve had a fair amount of bearings that were fast, at one time. Shit some spitfire cheapshots that were loud and fast. For me the rest is the longevity of the bearing, and it’s speed. Once the q-sauce wore off, these were, for me, average, to this point. Maybe it’ll change.
All kind of funny because I skate slow as shit anyways


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You know how there is that warning that something else has been posted? I never heed that. And it shows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quantum_Bearing_Science on March 18, 2023, 03:44:35 PM
It’s still all love.  This place will always have a chapter in the Quantum Bearing history.

I apologize if a few of my posts came across as snarky.  To you and whoever they were in response to.

And I assure you we’re not in cahoots with the Berrics.  😂
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Crailslideyoface on March 18, 2023, 03:51:22 PM
They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?
I skated a set when they first came out a few years ago. They were really really bad. One of the maybe 2 sets of bearings I’ve owned where they fell apart
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 18, 2023, 04:25:05 PM
Have trucks always been made of aluminum?
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 18, 2023, 04:33:27 PM
Have trucks always been made of aluminum?

Unless you're talking about major brands, no. It's easy to come across plastic trucks on crappy "skateboards" from department stores.

Bennett was known for having plastic baseplates that broke easily.

Theeve sells a truck with a hanger that is made of titanium.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 18, 2023, 05:03:28 PM
You should let threads exist for informational purposes.  Now all those answered question went back to being unsanswered
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
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Somebody help please?
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Considering it's the new thing on BBS made boards, they should have that yes
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Do you mean only the decks made from X year got that sticker?
Bbs didnt use to put such stickers?



the holographic sticker is fairly recent (for approx a year and a half)

Edit: my bad and sorry for the misleading info, i just checked on a couple boards from BBS i have in stock at the shop (less than 3 months old), Antihero, Krooked, Passport and they don't have the holographic sticker

maybe the new thing is not having that holographic sticker


More info in the Woodshop thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0


Article here:

https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/


 MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker


From what I have seen, NOT all brands that use BBS have these stickers, but I think from what I have seen more recently (not latest drops, as nothing is that current here in AU) there are a lot of them around on some brands, including Baker, Deathwish, Element, 917, Welcome and others I have bought in the last few months.

I have never seen them on DLX, Passport, Magenta, Black Label, among others, just for reference.


If there was any doubt as to whether or not a board is BBS, it should have the "Made in Mexico" warning sticker and very spoon shaped kicks, compared to counterfeit Baker boards which have the "Dwindle concave" and no warning sticker, often with slightly fuzzy graphics, like they were photocopied, at least on the one I saw.



Edit:

To note though, some old stock doesn't have those stickers, or even some not so old stock that for whatever reason just didn't get them, as per a Baker series I saw the other day in a shop.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 18, 2023, 05:52:47 PM
the holographic sticker is fairly recent (for approx a year and a half)

Edit: my bad and sorry for the misleading info, i just checked on a couple boards from BBS i have in stock at the shop (less than 3 months old), Antihero, Krooked, Passport and they don't have the holographic sticker

maybe the new thing is not having that holographic sticker

Big thanks dude, very helpfull info!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 18, 2023, 06:12:40 PM
What happened to the Quantum thread?

I posted that they were what you should expect for $40 ceramic bearings and then Quantum got weirdly passive aggressive about it, implied user error, said that I had previously said something about them which I never said, and then they apparently nuked the thread.

I didn’t even hate them, I just think the effusive praise was over the top so I posted my experience with them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quantum_Bearing_Science on March 18, 2023, 07:03:05 PM
I think you assumed I was replying to you.  I wasn’t.  I understand your issue with the bearings and DM’d you a few days ago to get some more info.

If you’re down to check it, cool.  If not, cool.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 18, 2023, 08:25:36 PM
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Have trucks always been made of aluminum?
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Unless you're talking about major brands, no. It's easy to come across plastic trucks on crappy "skateboards" from department stores.

Bennett was known for having plastic baseplates that broke easily.

Theeve sells a truck with a hanger that is made of titanium.
Let’s not forget Trackers with the plastic baseplates that broke immediately.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: texasplant on March 18, 2023, 08:41:25 PM
Have trucks always been made of aluminum?

4130 Chromo (same steel as BMX frames/bars/forks/pegs).

(https://skateandannoy.com/features/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2009/06/demand.jpg)

https://skateandannoy.com/features/who-killed-the-chromoly-truck/

Skaters would have no complaints about BMX pegs on pool coping if we were still riding these.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on March 18, 2023, 11:26:47 PM
You should let threads exist for informational purposes.  Now all those answered question went back to being unsanswered

^^ this.
I bought the Atoms simply because of the good reviews in the thread. I wouldnt have heard about them otherwise. I am 3 months in and more than happy so far. That is also what I wrote in the thread. I just dont understand why you would take away that information just because things got a bit bumpy. People still appreciate your product and you have successfully advertised it to some of us here. But now that you got your feet on the ground with a few pros on board maybe the dirty ol SLAP messageboards are too critical of a place for you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 19, 2023, 06:01:20 AM
I think you assumed I was replying to you.  I wasn’t.  I understand your issue with the bearings and DM’d you a few days ago to get some more info.

If you’re down to check it, cool.  If not, cool.

Lol ok dude. You vagueposted a response to a post I made without actually quoting me or addressing me directly… so you could have plausible deniability?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Quantum_Bearing_Science on March 19, 2023, 06:57:38 AM
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You should let threads exist for informational purposes.  Now all those answered question went back to being unsanswered
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^^ this.
I bought the Atoms simply because of the good reviews in the thread. I wouldnt have heard about them otherwise. I am 3 months in and more than happy so far. That is also what I wrote in the thread. I just dont understand why you would take away that information just because things got a bit bumpy. People still appreciate your product and you have successfully advertised it to some of us here. But now that you got your feet on the ground with a few pros on board maybe the dirty ol SLAP messageboards are too critical of a place for you?

Not at all.  I’m still here.  And folks are more than welcome to post about the bearings.  I’ll check in from time to time and answer questions.  Maybe deleting the thread was a bit hasty. 
It had nothing to do with us having “our feet on the ground.”  We’re actually working harder than ever.


 
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I think you assumed I was replying to you.  I wasn’t.  I understand your issue with the bearings and DM’d you a few days ago to get some more info.

If you’re down to check it, cool.  If not, cool.
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Lol ok dude. You vagueposted a response to a post I made without actually quoting me or addressing me directly… so you could have plausible deniability?

It was in response to IUsedToSkateMore.  He said he had a bearing in each wheel that seized up.  I was really wanting to get to the cause of that problem.  Back in July (I figured out how to search for it after a few keywords) he said he was having a much better experience with the new bearings, that we sent him, after not having luck with a set from our earlier run.

If it’s bearing failure, after 9-10 months, that’s great information to have.  If they just need a good cleaning, that’s great too. 
Maybe I wasn’t clear.  You’ve said I implied “user error”.  That was really never the case.

Maybe trying to work through each issue that is brought up is too lofty a goal.  Maybe that’s why most don’t try.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 19, 2023, 07:32:28 AM
Do you guys think I should risk taking this nut off to swap the bushings or nah?

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741334087759036470/1087018350930055318/IMG_9072.jpg?width=475&height=634)

worried i wont get it back on there...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 19, 2023, 07:45:11 AM
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The thread doesn't look too fucked up, I'd try loosening it first as a gauge of how bad it actually is. If removing it takes more force than usual then crank it back down and ride it till it's last grind.

I've rethreaded lots of axles but never kingpins before, the rethreaded axles are never 100% and always slightly off alignment
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on March 19, 2023, 06:57:26 PM
Anyone know another brand that has the same or similar shape as frog. I really like the shape but not to common to find
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 19, 2023, 06:59:10 PM
Anyone know another brand that has the same or similar shape as frog. I really like the shape but not to common to find

What’s the frog shape like?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slappyjoes on March 19, 2023, 07:06:16 PM
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Anyone know another brand that has the same or similar shape as frog. I really like the shape but not to common to find
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What’s the frog shape like?

I got a 8.25 x 32 with a 14 25 wb. The kicks a round kinda like a krooked but the tail and nose a longer
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on March 20, 2023, 03:58:19 AM
Anyone know another brand that has the same or similar shape as frog. I really like the shape but not to common to find
Theories has similar shapes. Or picture show.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 20, 2023, 07:02:22 AM
8.25 x 14.25 seems pretty standard for all BBS brands... Zero and Primitive also run that size for example. I think DLX brands all offer those standard sizes but also a hell of a lot more from what I have seen in the most recent catalogs from Anti Hero and Krooked. for example Krooked has a board just over 8" with a 8.38" wheelbase... that seems so silly to me but maybe someone out there really likes that. someone really tall who likes small boards i guess.

from what I have seen, the main thing seperating BBS brands is how they like to cut the nose/tail.  FA/Hockey I know offers just 2 variations of shapes to not be too confusing and make online ordering easier. Shape 1 is the one that everyone started copying with very full / square nose/tails. Now they have shape 2 which is basically the standard pointy popsicle that most people still ride. I think in this case you need to go to a skate shop if you are really that picky on the agressiveness of the cut. or else just take a gamble on different brands that you like if you are stuck ordering online.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: smellsdead on March 20, 2023, 11:59:34 AM
lol

bitchmade bearings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 20, 2023, 12:38:12 PM
Is the darkroom 8.25 the standard bbs 8.25 shape?
My darkroom deck label says: 8.25 x 32; Tail 6.5875; Nose 6.875. (Who tf needs more than 2 decimal places accuracy here. As if that's even possible on the manufacturing side...)
I like it a lot, perfect taper on the tail in my opinion
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2023, 04:48:19 PM
Is the darkroom 8.25 the standard bbs 8.25 shape?
My darkroom deck label says: 8.25 x 32; Tail 6.5875; Nose 6.875. (Who tf needs more than 2 decimal places accuracy here. As if that's even possible on the manufacturing side...)
I like it a lot, perfect taper on the tail in my opinion


Ha yeah, sometimes they get almost too deep in numbers, but overall I would be looking at the fractions, like someone else said, as it all comes down to simple fractions, which don't really equate well to decimal places, eg 6 and 7/8ths is 6.875

But as you said those dimensions seem pretty standard for a BBS board.

I looked it up and it is 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb so that is about the go to, maybe a touch longer than some other BBS 8.25 boards which are often a little more like 31.85 or so, but I prefer longer tails anyway.


As to the shape, I didn't see any very specific pics, but the stock pics on shop listings look like a normal popsicle.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0265/8857/7871/products/DarkroomIncubatorSkateboardDeck8.25_1024x1024.jpg)


https://worldofwheelcraft.com.au/products/darkroom-beowulf-8-25-skateboard-deck



8.25" wide
14.25" wheelbase
6.5875" tail
6.875" nose
32" length




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 20, 2023, 05:41:56 PM
I dunno....I think I've seen some advertisements.....'now with more decimal points!'  Seems like a good marketing ploy around here at least....
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 20, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
This reminds me the other day I measured some of my decks on ice and my FA 8.18 was more narrow than my 8.125 decks, mostly Polar decks.

And most of the decks measured differently at the front truck holes and the back truck holes. 

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2023, 08:42:44 PM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 20, 2023, 11:36:52 PM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm

On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2023, 02:36:19 AM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm
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On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?


Decks all in inches
Risers almost all in inches, some in mm
Trucks mixed, some 144 mm, others 5.6 inches
Wheels all in mm
Bolts in inches
Grip in inches 9 x 33 is the most common size of grip

Bearings - n/a

Anything else?

Shoes in US size, cm and in EU sizes

Pants in both, eg 34" or 87 cm waist


I guess it is just one of those things hey!?!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on March 21, 2023, 05:48:48 AM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm
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On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?
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Decks all in inches
Risers almost all in inches, some in mm
Trucks mixed, some 144 mm, others 5.6 inches
Wheels all in mm
Bolts in inches
Grip in inches 9 x 33 is the most common size of grip

Bearings - n/a

Anything else?

Shoes in US size, cm and in EU sizes

Pants in both, eg 34" or 87 cm waist


I guess it is just one of those things hey!?!

(https://i.ibb.co/LYhPRHD/a929748b-008b-4dc1-b4f6-da5e9d7797dc.jpg)

Maybe just because this would look really stupid ;) .
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 21, 2023, 06:11:52 AM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm
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On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?
[close]


Decks all in inches
Risers almost all in inches, some in mm
Trucks mixed, some 144 mm, others 5.6 inches
Wheels all in mm
Bolts in inches
Grip in inches 9 x 33 is the most common size of grip

Bearings - n/a

Anything else?

Shoes in US size, cm and in EU sizes

Pants in both, eg 34" or 87 cm waist


I guess it is just one of those things hey!?!
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(https://i.ibb.co/LYhPRHD/a929748b-008b-4dc1-b4f6-da5e9d7797dc.jpg)

Maybe just because this would look really stupid ;) .

You could be right.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 21, 2023, 07:43:09 AM
i think wheels in mm because it requires a little more precision. we didnt start skateboard decks in anything besides 1/2" so it wasn't a big deal. if you work with a lot of fasteners you learn pretty quickly what all the decimal number equivalents are. sometimes they will do just a 1/16 so thats where you get those stupidly long decimal places usually. its just hard to write out like 8-9/16" on a phone / message board / online etc. so thats why we use more decimal places now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Yakusoku2 on March 21, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
Would you recommend Hopps wheels? I’ve found those Hopps Keep it moving wheels for a good price but I prefer asking Slap experts first.

(https://ibb.co/TkbrpQW)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 21, 2023, 10:02:05 AM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm
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On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?
[close]


Decks all in inches
Risers almost all in inches, some in mm
Trucks mixed, some 144 mm, others 5.6 inches
Wheels all in mm
Bolts in inches
Grip in inches 9 x 33 is the most common size of grip

Bearings - n/a

Anything else?

Shoes in US size, cm and in EU sizes

Pants in both, eg 34" or 87 cm waist


I guess it is just one of those things hey!?!

Bearings are measured in mm. All skateboard bearings are 8mm (inner race).

The only time it would matter is if you come across a few really old roller skate models (I don't remember which one) that use 7mm bearings (b/c 7mm axle), but I really doubt you would unless you're actively looking for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on March 21, 2023, 10:24:36 AM
Yo, has anyone tried any Woodchuck Laminates decks yet? Decks are getting very fuckin expensive and at least where I live the regular price of a Death deck is pretty much akin to a deck that's been on sale.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 21, 2023, 10:47:14 AM
Yo, has anyone tried any Woodchuck Laminates decks yet? Decks are getting very fuckin expensive and at least where I live the regular price of a Death deck is pretty much akin to a deck that's been on sale.
plenty of brands run the mystery box deals with 2-3 decks coming out at $30-40/deck. Crailtap, Primitive, Baker/Deathwish, The Killing Floor, etc. Crailtap and Primitive are pretty consistent on running the deal multiple times throughout the year
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on March 21, 2023, 02:06:22 PM
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Yo, has anyone tried any Woodchuck Laminates decks yet? Decks are getting very fuckin expensive and at least where I live the regular price of a Death deck is pretty much akin to a deck that's been on sale.
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plenty of brands run the mystery box deals with 2-3 decks coming out at $30-40/deck. Crailtap, Primitive, Baker/Deathwish, The Killing Floor, etc. Crailtap and Primitive are pretty consistent on running the deal multiple times throughout the year

Appreciate the response dude, but I live in the UK and those deals are usually exclusively United States based, or have shipping charges that I can't pay without selling my one healthy kidney.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2023, 03:51:46 PM
Yo, has anyone tried any Woodchuck Laminates decks yet? Decks are getting very fuckin expensive and at least where I live the regular price of a Death deck is pretty much akin to a deck that's been on sale.


The Woodshop thread has a bit of info on them:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0


Basically some people love their boards and some not so much.

Personal opinion comes into it way more than quality of the boards, but some of those that I have stood on or seen over the years seemed like decent enough boards.

If they are a good price, when cost is a big factor in it, try one and see.

Whether or not you can see or stand on one in person to feel them out, then really know what you are dealing with, may or may not help the situation too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 21, 2023, 04:02:02 PM

Bearings are measured in mm. All skateboard bearings are 8mm (inner race).

The only time it would matter is if you come across a few really old roller skate models (I don't remember which one) that use 7mm bearings (b/c 7mm axle), but I really doubt you would unless you're actively looking for it.


Yes you are right.

I forgot about the 7mm (skates) to 8mm (skateboard) bearings.


I recall some people bringing in their Bones Roller bearings once a long time ago that wouldn't fit the skateboard axles and it wasn't until they read the packet they realised they were for the older roller skates, not skateboards.

Funny thing is most modern roller skates seem like they have adopted the 8mm axles to fit with all skateboard bearings, as they often use Penny trucks and skateboard wheels anyway.

Not sure if or how many people with skates you see in your shop, but there were a lot more in the last few years getting skateboard parts to replace their own, mainly wheels and bearings, but as said some truck hangers and other things too.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daewons front truck on March 21, 2023, 06:10:14 PM
Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daewons front truck on March 21, 2023, 06:14:13 PM
Here's a better look at the whole deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 21, 2023, 06:18:58 PM
Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.

thats weird, ive never seen or heard of a board that tapers like that twords the nose. usually its the opposite
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daewons front truck on March 21, 2023, 06:28:16 PM
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Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.
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thats weird, ive never seen or heard of a board that tapers like that twords the nose. usually its the opposite

I know man, it's a first for me, I'm surprised I dig it. I've had a tapered tail deck but never one tapered toward the nose. That's why I am desperate to find out what the shape would be called or how to look for something similar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 21, 2023, 07:19:16 PM
Watching the SC skate challenge that Cannon does and just wanted to know if someone’s thrown the stage 11 hanger on the stage 4 baseplate to skate a board with the old bolt pattern.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 21, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
Is the darkroom 8.25 the standard bbs 8.25 shape?
My darkroom deck label says: 8.25 x 32; Tail 6.5875; Nose 6.875. (Who tf needs more than 2 decimal places accuracy here. As if that's even possible on the manufacturing side...)
I like it a lot, perfect taper on the tail in my opinion

the john clemmons models have a shovel nose, i think hes the only one who has a different shape
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 21, 2023, 10:14:42 PM
Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.

You can try emailing or dm’ing Paul Schmitt and asking him. He seems to be all about that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on March 22, 2023, 03:31:00 AM
Would you recommend Hopps wheels? I’ve found those Hopps Keep it moving wheels for a good price but I prefer asking Slap experts first.

I've got a set, I'm pretty sure they are poured by Creative. Opinions differ on how good Creative wheels are, some people thing they are complete trash, others like them. I think they are perfectly fine wheels, but F4 disciples might disagree.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2023, 06:50:01 AM
Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.


If I didn't know any better I would say they somehow got the front and back mixed up and cut the board backwards and no one picked up on it.

Almost all the usual PS Stix boards I have dealt with have some taper from the bigger rounder nose down to a more tapered but often blunt tail.

Sounds about right, only the other way round?


I would say this - if you can find a shop that has other PS Stix boards of similar advertised width and check to see if they have that same shape front to back, where yours seems like it is back to front.  Most likely not going to find something exactly the same as that could have been a one off shape, but it would not be the first time someone has ended up with a board backwards and liked it that way, more so than riding it the usual way.


Of course it could be a very special board that is meant to be like that, so for all PS Stix boards, there is a serial number on top, which as others said, you can message PS Stix or Paul himself and ask if there are any more like that or even if it was meant to be the other way round.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 22, 2023, 06:56:32 AM
shouldnt there be a serial number on it laser engraved if it was from PS Stix? if you email that to paul he should be able to trace that back, no?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Yakusoku2 on March 22, 2023, 07:03:04 AM
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Would you recommend Hopps wheels? I’ve found those Hopps Keep it moving wheels for a good price but I prefer asking Slap experts first.
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Thank you!! I have some F4 radials and conical fulls and I like them. I’ve had other wheels and liked them too so I can adapt. I do tricks on flat only, no ramps.

I've got a set, I'm pretty sure they are poured by Creative. Opinions differ on how good Creative wheels are, some people thing they are complete trash, others like them. I think they are perfectly fine wheels, but F4 disciples might disagree.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 22, 2023, 04:26:39 PM
Do you skate the same shoes over and over again?
You think it’s worth it?
Are the first days still not cool to skate in the new shoes, even you had them before or do you think the adjusting is quicker than with switching the shoes all the time?


Your take on this?

Never had the same  shoes twice in a row, but skating new shoes pissed me off the first few days.


Edit: also ; would you put shoo goo on asap or after one or two sessions?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2023, 06:03:02 PM
Do you skate the same shoes over and over again?
You think it’s worth it?
Are the first days still not cool to skate in the new shoes, even you had them before or do you think the adjusting is quicker than with switching the shoes all the time?


Your take on this?

Never had the same  shoes twice in a row, but skating new shoes pissed me off the first few days.


Edit: also ; would you put shoo goo on asap or after one or two sessions?



Re same shoes, yes, over and over and over, but I have a steady rotation of half a dozen different styles, all of which are not limited edition or one offs.  That said, all are vulc sole Vans, so how I do things they are pretty much perfect right from go, but it is a totally different story for other more supportive or cup sole type shoes, especially if you wear them from day one brand new until they are within their last minute of use.


Re things like shoe goo or super glue, my go to and what I usually tell anyone is this - from new, super glue over any stitches that might be in high wear areas, so they don't come apart and shorten the life of the shoe.  Then only as wear happens, shoe goo over those areas in very small amounts so you don't create a big lip or chunky uncomfortable area on the shoe.

If you have shoes that you know will wear through very quickly, then sure put shoe goo on those areas before you blow through them, eg canvas side shoes which will go from brand new to holes and bleeding foot in one session, definitely need a bit of shoe goo or super glue before skating.

We used to put shoe goo from the front toe cap right down the side of the shoe from brand new when we were kids and besides looking terrible, in some ways I think it made skating harder, but the other side of things is you don't want to see your toes sticking out from the front corner where you have flipped the shoe into oblivion with no chance to fix it either, which I have seen far too many of with kids over the years, as again a couple of kids at the skate session last night who didn't even know what shoe goo was.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 23, 2023, 01:19:58 PM
how do you shift your weight back to heel side on a slappy crook, everybody says go toe side to get into it and when i do i just stick because all my weight is on my toes. is there a secret to it?


also do you just kinda ride into it at a 45 or do u lean back and jam your front foot forward?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 23, 2023, 02:01:20 PM
how do you shift your weight back to heel side on a slappy crook, everybody says go toe side to get into it and when i do i just stick because all my weight is on my toes. is there a secret to it?


also do you just kinda ride into it at a 45 or do u lean back and jam your front foot forward?

The "secret" is literally putting your weight from your toes to your heel. Exactly the same way you would do it just standing on the ground. Stand on your toes, then shift the weight to stand on your heels.

As soon as you got up the curb, shift it. No magic to it, super simple. I think the angle should be even more than 45°. I learned it at pretty much 80-90° and then carving into the curb
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 23, 2023, 02:08:48 PM
Thanks, @Mbrimson88




Did you guys ever skate shoes that just sucked skating in?

I‘m one day in a pair of covered one starts and they are so uncomfortable and the soul goes just too high into the part where’s  usually already the leather.
All my heelflip tricks suffer so hard from this.

Makes me scared off skating my Lynx Zero‘s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 23, 2023, 03:15:22 PM
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how do you shift your weight back to heel side on a slappy crook, everybody says go toe side to get into it and when i do i just stick because all my weight is on my toes. is there a secret to it?


also do you just kinda ride into it at a 45 or do u lean back and jam your front foot forward?
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The "secret" is literally putting your weight from your toes to your heel. Exactly the same way you would do it just standing on the ground. Stand on your toes, then shift the weight to stand on your heels.

As soon as you got up the curb, shift it. No magic to it, super simple. I think the angle should be even more than 45°. I learned it at pretty much 80-90° and then carving into the curb

For me the trick is in the foot placement of the back foot: toes in the heel pocket and heel hanging off for bs crooks, heel in toeside pocket and toes hanging off on fs crooks. Works for me, try it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 23, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
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how do you shift your weight back to heel side on a slappy crook, everybody says go toe side to get into it and when i do i just stick because all my weight is on my toes. is there a secret to it?


also do you just kinda ride into it at a 45 or do u lean back and jam your front foot forward?
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The "secret" is literally putting your weight from your toes to your heel. Exactly the same way you would do it just standing on the ground. Stand on your toes, then shift the weight to stand on your heels.

As soon as you got up the curb, shift it. No magic to it, super simple. I think the angle should be even more than 45°. I learned it at pretty much 80-90° and then carving into the curb
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For me the trick is in the foot placement of the back foot: toes in the heel pocket and heel hanging off for bs crooks, heel in toeside pocket and toes hanging off on fs crooks. Works for me, try it.

How is your backfoot relevant for crooks? You can have it centered on the bolts and it doesn't change anything
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 23, 2023, 04:06:20 PM
Do you skate the same shoes over and over again?
You think it’s worth it?

Are the first days still not cool to skate in the new shoes, even you had them before or do you think the adjusting is quicker than with switching the shoes all the time?


Your take on this?

Never had the same  shoes twice in a row, but skating new shoes pissed me off the first few days.


Edit: also ; would you put shoo goo on asap or after one or two sessions?

I tried a lot of different shoes in the last two years and now I am back right where I started and will continue to get that specific shoe again and again. Take the insole from the old shoe and put it in the new one if you skate them for the first time.

I personally am not a big fan of shoe goo and will apply it when the flicking area is already well worn. But to each his/her own. But I also don't have endless amounts of time to go skate anymore.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 23, 2023, 04:50:20 PM
Thanks, @Mbrimson88




Did you guys ever skate shoes that just sucked skating in?

I‘m one day in a pair of covered one starts and they are so uncomfortable and the soul goes just too high into the part where’s  usually already the leather.
All my heelflip tricks suffer so hard from this.

Makes me scared off skating my Lynx Zero‘s


Yes absolutely some shoes I really liked the look of or even to wear, I just could not skate in for whatever reason.

Other shoes were good for a minute and then just had to leave them for someone else to use, others were so stiff or hard to skate in when new but then when nicely worn in were so good I didn't want to stop skating them.

Funny how that all works, but overall if a shoe is not working for you, either keep them as chillers or for mellow sessions, or get rid of them if you know you just can't deal with them.  That is better than destroying your feet or have other issues, painful as that might be to let them go.




Take the insole from the old shoe and put it in the new one if you skate them for the first time.




This is the best advice people have said works for them too - use the nicely worn in insole to get your new shoes feeling more comfortable more quickly, then when the shoe is worn in or getting thin, putting in the new insole gives it a new life so to speak, or at least makes a worn in shoe feel a bit more stiff and padded until you are done with it.

Some people never keep insoles, but I find my insoles last a long time and I prefer nicely worn in ones to any that are new.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 23, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
Thanks!

How long would you say does it take til a shoe is broken in when you start skating them brand new?

I guess I should wear them a while before I skate them in the future. Will make the whole thing faster probably
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 23, 2023, 09:06:34 PM
Thanks!

How long would you say does it take til a shoe is broken in when you start skating them brand new?

I guess I should wear them a while before I skate them in the future. Will make the whole thing faster probably


Some pro dudes and others do all sorts of things to the shoes before wearing them, but some other people just skate in them right from go, so again it is all down to what works for you, if they are comfortable and fit well, or you have to mold them to your feet a bit more, or in the case of tougher shoes, soften them up before skating.

People pack them with wet newspaper and microwave the shoe for 30 seconds before wearing, others use a sheet of grip stuck to the ground or a wall or something and take the sides down or the sharp edges off, some put them through the washing machine a few times or stomp all over them, but all those things those guys have gotten used to doing through trial and error, which I wouldn't recommend unless you know what you are doing or don't mind accidentally shredding a pair of shoes in the process.


With any of my Vans - Sk8 hi, mid or low, Old Skools, Half Cabs, Eras or whatever else, they are a soft shoe to start with (compared to some others) so the wear from go is not a big deal to me.

I take off the sharp edge of the white and a bit of the gum sole, mainly on the outer side but a bit all the way round, then swap out the insole for a well used one, then have a very mellow / comfortable roll for the first session with them done up as tight as I can, just to make sure that my feet really mold them nicely, which works for these shoes, so for me it is from the first skate.


I know other people who will wear a pair for ages first for everything but skateboarding, only skating in them once they are soft and comfortable, but I don't think everyone has half a dozen pairs of shoes ready and waiting before skating them, not to mention some people can go through shoes in a couple of weeks, compared to others whose shoes will last years.

For your own shoes, if they are comfortable and fit well, they should be a lot easier to skate in from go, but if they are stiff and difficult to flex, then they might need a bit more wearing in or whatever first, with any other exercise to help that process, even just put them on a do a quick run on the spot sort of thing, or whatever else you might do.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 23, 2023, 11:06:29 PM
I found out the Busenitz works for me, not too chunky not too thin, plus it looks nice so I‘ll stick with it. It only takes a session to break in even if I have never worn it before.

I don‘t use shoe  goo anymore because I found out that by the time the upper is really broken, the sole will be thin as well. And I flip a lot. It‘s not even the flick holes that get me to change the shoe because there‘s a plastic shield underneath the leather that‘s holding quite good, but the stitching on the upper area around the highest lace holes at the ankle that gets completely destroyed from heeflips. Once that damage is done I cannot tie/tighten the shoe anymore as tight as I want so that‘s when I chuck it. No shoe goo can prevent that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 24, 2023, 12:54:44 AM
Without shoo goo my shoes are done so quick. Can’t afford that.

Never had busenitz, but Campus where really good pretty much from start.
Superstars took a while. Then they were great.

Shoes that sucked for me were fabric vans like authentics, Adidas rivalry and now the cons one star ox.

The last two suck because of the sole going up more on the sides of the shoe I think.

For example; I skated average cortez and they were great (but didn’t last long).

I have some Adidas forum too, and somehow I think this is the kind of shoe that won’t feel good skating.
Not sure about the lynx zero
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 24, 2023, 05:17:17 AM
Which Bones/Powell Dragon wheel shape is most similar to a Spitfire F4 Classic?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on March 24, 2023, 05:55:05 AM
Thanks!

How long would you say does it take til a shoe is broken in when you start skating them brand new?

I guess I should wear them a while before I skate them in the future. Will make the whole thing faster probably

Very few shoes are good out the box. Wearing them a day or two first is always helpful unless you always buy the same pair.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on March 24, 2023, 06:01:25 AM
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how do you shift your weight back to heel side on a slappy crook, everybody says go toe side to get into it and when i do i just stick because all my weight is on my toes. is there a secret to it?


also do you just kinda ride into it at a 45 or do u lean back and jam your front foot forward?
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The "secret" is literally putting your weight from your toes to your heel. Exactly the same way you would do it just standing on the ground. Stand on your toes, then shift the weight to stand on your heels.

As soon as you got up the curb, shift it. No magic to it, super simple. I think the angle should be even more than 45°. I learned it at pretty much 80-90° and then carving into the curb
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For me the trick is in the foot placement of the back foot: toes in the heel pocket and heel hanging off for bs crooks, heel in toeside pocket and toes hanging off on fs crooks. Works for me, try it.
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How is your backfoot relevant for crooks? You can have it centered on the bolts and it doesn't change anything

I noticed doing slapppy crooks when my back foot was closer to center of board I was like automatically popping out as opposed to when back foot was on bolts or closer to tail
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 24, 2023, 11:12:20 AM
Which Bones/Powell Dragon wheel shape is most similar to a Spitfire F4 Classic?

Either V1 or V3

(https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/bones-wheels-shapes_3_1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rxcr on March 25, 2023, 09:28:43 AM
Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: turdtastic on March 25, 2023, 09:56:40 AM
Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
Shorter WB should help your flip tricks and overall responsiveness of the board, 14.25-14.5”, under that for tall people like us starts to feel cramped and unstable imho.
Everything else looks fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 25, 2023, 09:57:57 AM
Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.

You have a wide board with wide, heavy trucks so flip tricks are going to be more difficult than they would be with a lighter board. Otherwise i think you have a great all-purpose set up. The best thing you could do is just skate consistently.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 25, 2023, 10:19:10 AM
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It is funny how the inch to cm conversion is almost non existent in skateboarding though.

The few shops that do measure in cm / mm always get me and I have to google the conversion tool to check measurements.


Imagine if I said I rode a board that was 820 x 216 with a 368 wheelbase (32.3 x 8.5 with 14.5 wb).


Conversion:

8.25" wide  =  210 mm
14.25" wheelbase  =  362 mm
6.5875" tail  =  167 mm
6.875" nose  =  175 mm
32" length  =  813 mm


* rounded to the nearest mm
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On the other hand it‘s normal to measure wheels in millimeters. I always pondered, why come?
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Decks all in inches
Risers almost all in inches, some in mm
Trucks mixed, some 144 mm, others 5.6 inches
Wheels all in mm
Bolts in inches
Grip in inches 9 x 33 is the most common size of grip

Bearings - n/a

Anything else?

Shoes in US size, cm and in EU sizes

Pants in both, eg 34" or 87 cm waist


I guess it is just one of those things hey!?!
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(https://i.ibb.co/LYhPRHD/a929748b-008b-4dc1-b4f6-da5e9d7797dc.jpg)

Maybe just because this would look really stupid ;) .
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You could be right.
Wheels and trucks are in mm because they came from rollerskates which are french. When Americans started making skateboards they just copied existing products. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2023, 10:55:42 AM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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You have a wide board with wide, heavy trucks so flip tricks are going to be more difficult than they would be with a lighter board. Otherwise i think you have a great all-purpose set up. The best thing you could do is just skate consistently.

For the love of god do not visit https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122395.0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: modern life is war on March 25, 2023, 11:32:38 AM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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You have a wide board with wide, heavy trucks so flip tricks are going to be more difficult than they would be with a lighter board. Otherwise i think you have a great all-purpose set up. The best thing you could do is just skate consistently.
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For the love of god do not visit https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122395.0

Haha. I feel like the less i skate the more madness i get. When i'm skating all the time i don't even think about it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 25, 2023, 12:07:32 PM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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Shorter WB should help your flip tricks and overall responsiveness of the board, 14.25-14.5”, under that for tall people like us starts to feel cramped and unstable imho.
Everything else looks fine.

Also, your axles are wider than your deck. For flipping, the opposite would probably work better. Try 8.5 trucks or get a 8.75 deck next to see if there is any improvement. Then take it from there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rxcr on March 25, 2023, 01:35:06 PM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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Shorter WB should help your flip tricks and overall responsiveness of the board, 14.25-14.5”, under that for tall people like us starts to feel cramped and unstable imho.
Everything else looks fine.
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Also, your axles are wider than your deck. For flipping, the opposite would probably work better. Try 8.5 trucks or get a 8.75 deck next to see if there is any improvement. Then take it from there.

Appreciate the input(s). Will probably get a deck and trucks and see which of the 4 combos I like best.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: apbarbs on March 25, 2023, 02:17:35 PM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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Shorter WB should help your flip tricks and overall responsiveness of the board, 14.25-14.5”, under that for tall people like us starts to feel cramped and unstable imho.
Everything else looks fine.
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Also, your axles are wider than your deck. For flipping, the opposite would probably work better. Try 8.5 trucks or get a 8.75 deck next to see if there is any improvement. Then take it from there.
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Appreciate the input(s). Will probably get a deck and trucks and see which of the 4 combos I like best.

would highly recommend the anti-hero mis-registered eagle shapes:
https://www.paradeworld.com/uk/products/antihero-mis-register-eagle-skateboard-deck-875-1-7629040910592/

it's 8.75 but with a 14.25 wheelbase - i personally have only skated the 8.25 and 8.5 from this series (both with a 14 wheelbase) but i loved them both, i assume the 8.75 might be a similar feel for taller people

they made them in different graphics as well like this one:
https://www.workingclassstore.com/products/anti-hero-curb-crusher-xl-deck-8-75
and one that looks like a tape but i can't find a picture right now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on March 25, 2023, 02:40:32 PM
Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swellbowed on March 25, 2023, 02:59:30 PM
Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
Pretty sure it's BBS for popsicles & PS Stix for Polarizers
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on March 25, 2023, 03:01:50 PM
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Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
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Pretty sure it's BBS for popsicles & PS Stix for Polarizers

Thanks, that's what I had read but wanted to double check before pulling the trigger on a new deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 25, 2023, 03:35:39 PM
Anybody know if mini logo kingpins fit thunder baseplates?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 25, 2023, 05:59:46 PM
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Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
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Pretty sure it's BBS for popsicles & PS Stix for Polarizers


their stains do not look like BBS stains to me. the only one that does is the bright green stain. i've never seen a maroon or dirty looking stains from BBS (outside of purple and brown, sometimes), their shaped and popscicles look more PS or Watson to me.

but THW could like that look and request it i guess.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 25, 2023, 06:16:45 PM
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Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
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Pretty sure it's BBS for popsicles & PS Stix for Polarizers
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their stains do not look like BBS stains to me. the only one that does is the bright green stain. i've never seen a maroon or dirty looking stains from BBS (outside of purple and brown, sometimes), their shaped and popscicles look more PS or Watson to me.

but THW could like that look and request it i guess.


I noticed that about the stains too, but others who have the boards agree they are BBS.

Heated Wheel thread here too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125033.0


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2023, 06:19:57 PM
What does hybrid mean on my Habit board?
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Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2023, 06:20:52 PM
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Looking for a suggestion for tweaking my setup. I'm pretty tall (6'4", size 13), and have just gotten back into it after 15 years, so have no reference for the state of things.

Current setup, created from perusing the tall skaters thread:
8.63" x 14.75" Anti-hero eagle
Ace AF-1 60 (8.75")
Spitfire F4 Conical Full 54mm

The good: I have no complaints. The bad: I don't know what I'm missing, a) because I'm not as familiar with the market, and b) my low skill level would conflate setup problems with me not being good.

In what direction should I tweak this setup to try to dial in what's best for me? Aspirationally, I'd like to get better at ledge skating and medium/low-impact park stuff (banks, hips, smaller transition).

If I had one issue, it's that flip tricks seem to take quite a bit of effort, but that might just be me being old. And I can't imagine riding something smaller.
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Shorter WB should help your flip tricks and overall responsiveness of the board, 14.25-14.5”, under that for tall people like us starts to feel cramped and unstable imho.
Everything else looks fine.
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Also, your axles are wider than your deck. For flipping, the opposite would probably work better. Try 8.5 trucks or get a 8.75 deck next to see if there is any improvement. Then take it from there.

Definitely back this logic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 25, 2023, 06:23:20 PM
Anybody know if mini logo kingpins fit thunder baseplates?


I bought a few packs when I had access and worked in the shop and I would say yes, as they are the same generic kingpins as used on pretty much all trucks nowdays, so should fit any normal truck for height and kingpin shape.

If you are having issues getting a kingpin in, I take down the "teeth" a bit with an angle grinder or file and they are much easier to hammer in without any other problems.

Most shops will buy the ten pack and then separate them out so as a customer you can buy just one or how ever many you need.

More info on them here, in case you hadn't seen this:


https://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-king-pins-10pk


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Universal Fit - 2" overall length



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 25, 2023, 06:31:52 PM
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Does anyone know what woodshop The Heated Wheel uses for their popsicle shapes?
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Pretty sure it's BBS for popsicles & PS Stix for Polarizers
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their stains do not look like BBS stains to me. the only one that does is the bright green stain. i've never seen a maroon or dirty looking stains from BBS (outside of purple and brown, sometimes), their shaped and popscicles look more PS or Watson to me.

but THW could like that look and request it i guess.
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I noticed that about the stains too, but others who have the boards agree they are BBS.

Heated Wheel thread here too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125033.0





yeah, i don't really know what to believe anymore.

i'd guess this was PS or Watson before BBS.

socal is claiming it's PS but they been wrong so many times in the past.


https://socalskateshop.com/The-Heated-Wheel-Sportsman-Shaped-Skateboard-Deck-Aqua-9x32.html#!?cc_decks=129916&c=cc_grip-tape
(https://i.ibb.co/BfX6RL0/Screenshot-2023-03-25-at-6-28-56-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/BfX6RL0)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pops on March 25, 2023, 11:21:14 PM
Im asking again, anyone who skated both KSL G6 and Gamma, can I go same size in both, do they fit differently? Gammas were a little snug at first but broke in nicely and have plenty of room.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 26, 2023, 02:12:25 AM
What does hybrid mean on my Habit board?

maybe half birch half maple?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on March 26, 2023, 08:06:17 AM
Is it kooking it to go back to a shop if on day one you realize the board you bought is warped, or is it my bad for not checking
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on March 26, 2023, 08:06:50 AM
related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 26, 2023, 09:06:19 AM
Is it kooking it to go back to a shop if on day one you realize the board you bought is warped, or is it my bad for not checking

Not your fault. Kinda nobodies fault. Go get it replaced if it's badly warped.

related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible

You can just skate it and it might un-warp quickly. Depends on how bad the warp is though.
If that doesn't work, you'd need to press it between 2 unwarped decks i guess
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: brent on March 26, 2023, 10:36:52 AM
why the fuck are half cabs $100 dollars now?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 26, 2023, 10:51:00 AM
I just saw alien workshop uploaded photosynthesis to YouTube and just started thinking why do brands give their videos to Thrasher/Free etc...like there is good money in YouTube...ok I understand for smaller brands that want exposure but ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 26, 2023, 11:46:19 AM
why the fuck are half cabs $100 dollars now?


yeah they went up $15 in the last year, glad i stocked up on sale shoes when i did. all i wear is cabs n i have enough to last me for like 2 more years
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fernando the skater on March 26, 2023, 11:48:42 AM
Watching the Gifted Hater/Curren Caples video, he pronounces RVCA as Roo Ker. Is this what we're supposed to do? I assumed it was spelt out as in R V C A.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 26, 2023, 11:49:24 AM
why the fuck are half cabs $100 dollars now?
Vans aren’t as trendy and they probably spent too much money on the Ultrarange shit since marketing thought that they needed to appeal to people doing outdoors shit post-COVID. That gray nubuck Sk8-Hi goes for $100 and the purple Rowan is $90. Prices overall suck when it comes to buying Vans, unless you see them on clearance.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 26, 2023, 12:26:34 PM
Watching the Gifted Hater/Curren Caples video, he pronounces RVCA as Roo Ker. Is this what we're supposed to do? I assumed it was spelt out as in R V C A.

It's pronounced "Rew-ka".

https://www.rvca.com/about.html

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The RVCA Name (Pronounced: REW-KA) was developed first and foremost out of the "V" and "A" = which symbolizes The Balance of Opposites and how they coexist: Nature x Industrialization, Woman x Man, Past x Present...Future. Today. Tomorrow. Life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 26, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible

I believe there is. Ask @Mbrimson88  he swears by parking his car on a warped bloard. Or you can try putting a stack of decks and other heavy stuff on top of it for a few weeks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fernando the skater on March 26, 2023, 12:45:55 PM
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Watching the Gifted Hater/Curren Caples video, he pronounces RVCA as Roo Ker. Is this what we're supposed to do? I assumed it was spelt out as in R V C A.
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It's pronounced "Rew-ka".

https://www.rvca.com/about.html

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The RVCA Name (Pronounced: REW-KA) was developed first and foremost out of the "V" and "A" = which symbolizes The Balance of Opposites and how they coexist: Nature x Industrialization, Woman x Man, Past x Present...Future. Today. Tomorrow. Life.
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Thanks. Never new this, and I own one of their shirts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 26, 2023, 01:02:50 PM
Jacopo’s setup, anybody knows it?
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 26, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
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related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible
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I believe there is. Ask @Mbrimson88  he swears by parking his car on a warped bloard. Or you can try putting a stack of decks and other heavy stuff on top of it for a few weeks.

How do you determine if a board is warped or not besides just looking at it?  I have some decks that’s a few years old that I wanna use but don’t wanna waste grip on a warped deck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 26, 2023, 04:18:48 PM
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Is it kooking it to go back to a shop if on day one you realize the board you bought is warped, or is it my bad for not checking
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Not your fault. Kinda nobodies fault. Go get it replaced if it's badly warped.

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related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible
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You can just skate it and it might un-warp quickly. Depends on how bad the warp is though.
If that doesn't work, you'd need to press it between 2 unwarped decks i guess



Yeah first I would contact the shop, if you are not within easy distance to go back in yourself and send them a pic of the board showing the warp, usually looking down the board from end to end and one corner is going to sit higher than the other.


Second, only if they don't do anything or you don't want to take it back or talk to them, I have done this to fix a warped board in the past and it has worked quite well, but it takes time, maybe a week or more sitting under something heavy with the counter side lifted to "bend" the board back to the straight posiition.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CbopOttpt0i/



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related, is there a thread here for fixing warped boards? is that even possible
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I believe there is. Ask @Mbrimson88  he swears by parking his car on a warped bloard. Or you can try putting a stack of decks and other heavy stuff on top of it for a few weeks.
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How do you determine if a board is warped or not besides just looking at it?  I have some decks that’s a few years old that I wanna use but don’t wanna waste grip on a warped deck


As said above, the best way is to look down from end to end, matching up the corners of the kicks, as usually they should be straight and match up together, but if a board is warped one corner will sit up higher than the other.

The park under car is the best way to flatten out the kicks, but to offset the warp, place under significant weight and leave for a week is the best way I found to fix a warped deck.  I guess you could also do that under a car tyre, but I think having full weight on the whole board works better than just the single kick under a tyre method.

All trial and error though, so I guess someone could have done that and made it work.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daewons front truck on March 26, 2023, 06:31:25 PM
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Can anyone help me find what this board shape would be called? It's a flip "8.125 " but it's the weirdest shaped board I have ever seen or had. I'm surprised that I love it but I do and I got my varial heels and FS heels back for the first time since I started skating again. It's a PS Stix Flip and I think I saw they weren't made by them anymore.  This thing is wild, it's got a small square nose and  a larger scoopy tail. it is almost 8.25 at the bottom truck, 8.125 around the middle, and 7.8ish around the front truck. I'm skating it with Ace af-1s and 54mm rictas and it's perfect. I was wanting to know what it was called so I could try to find another one or a similar one from a different company. I would have no idea how to look it up. Any help would be awesome. I'm attaching photos to show what I mean.
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If I didn't know any better I would say they somehow got the front and back mixed up and cut the board backwards and no one picked up on it.

Almost all the usual PS Stix boards I have dealt with have some taper from the bigger rounder nose down to a more tapered but often blunt tail.

Sounds about right, only the other way round?


I would say this - if you can find a shop that has other PS Stix boards of similar advertised width and check to see if they have that same shape front to back, where yours seems like it is back to front.  Most likely not going to find something exactly the same as that could have been a one off shape, but it would not be the first time someone has ended up with a board backwards and liked it that way, more so than riding it the usual way.


Of course it could be a very special board that is meant to be like that, so for all PS Stix boards, there is a serial number on top, which as others said, you can message PS Stix or Paul himself and ask if there are any more like that or even if it was meant to be the other way round.


I sent PS Stix an email about 4 days ago and I have yet to hear back, is there another way I could try contacting them if they don't reply to the email in the upcoming future? The good news is this, I do have a picture of the serial code and I'm going to attempt to attach it to this post. Hopefully that helps?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 26, 2023, 07:18:53 PM
Is it kooking it to go back to a shop if on day one you realize the board you bought is warped, or is it my bad for not checking

Honestly it's 50/50. You should check for warping when you're there, looking at the underside of the deck you can easily see lateral twist if you hold it straight in front of you eye level with the flat. Put it on the floor or counter and rock it front to back and diagonal and you can tell easily.

I've seen a shitload of twisted BBS decks recently. I had 5 decks off the rack to choose from and 3 were warped/twisted.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: VCR on March 26, 2023, 07:39:23 PM
Do all half cabs have the puffy tounges?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pops on March 26, 2023, 08:56:52 PM
Do all half cabs have the puffy tounges?
(https://www.weartested.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Profile-scaled.jpg)

This is the skate version. Not sure about other models but I believe they're pretty close.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Southernmost on March 26, 2023, 10:30:43 PM
I just saw alien workshop uploaded photosynthesis to YouTube and just started thinking why do brands give their videos to Thrasher/Free etc...like there is good money in YouTube...ok I understand for smaller brands that want exposure but ?

I remember a few years ago AWS had an app called “Control Room” with their entire library of skate videos and edits from AWS and Habitat. Pretty cool app at the time. I just tried opening it though and it kept crashing. Not sure if it’s my phone or the app is defunct. I think some companies are starting to upload videos in house or on YouTubes other than Thrasher. Kader put out his last part on his own YouTube channel, Nyjah had his Nike part on their YouTube, pretty sure Primitive does most their videos on their channel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Southernmost on March 26, 2023, 10:33:19 PM
Anybody try the Black Onyx Shake Junt grip yet? Finally, they created an all black grip with no logo or stencil. I’ve also been wanting to try a sheet of Black Magic. Prob haven’t skated any in 10-20 years so not sure of quality or feel. Skated a sheet of Pepper at the end of last year that I really enjoyed. My local only has Jessup and MOB so I usually only order different sheets of grip if I catch an online sale somewhere.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 26, 2023, 11:00:49 PM
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I remember a few years ago AWS had an app called “Control Room” with their entire library of skate videos and edits from AWS and Habitat. Pretty cool app at the time. I just tried opening it though and it kept crashing. Not sure if it’s my phone or the app is defunct. I think some companies are starting to upload videos in house or on YouTubes other than Thrasher. Kader put out his last part on his own YouTube channel, Nyjah had his Nike part on their YouTube, pretty sure Primitive does most their videos on their channel.
Thrasher YouTube will go the way of Transworld and ride channel. My only guess would be thrasher might put money towards the production of the videos but even this I doubt would be that much money and only for certain companies
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 27, 2023, 09:45:34 AM
Best method to make new shoes skateable.
I hate when they are stiff.

How does this microwave thing work? Anything else that works for you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 27, 2023, 10:44:11 AM
Best method to make new shoes skateable.
I hate when they are stiff.

How does this microwave thing work? Anything else that works for you?

Squish/fold them in every possible way.
Do some running in them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 27, 2023, 11:04:10 AM
i just wear em around the house 24/7
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sanka Coffie on March 27, 2023, 11:07:08 AM
I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.

@IpathCats Sorry if already mentioned but have you looked at Rains? The storm breaker jacket is really good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on March 27, 2023, 11:44:18 AM
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I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.
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@IpathCats Sorry if already mentioned but have you looked at Rains? The storm breaker jacket is really good.

Yea I already went with one from mountain hardwear. thanks though!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 27, 2023, 01:25:19 PM
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I got way too drunk last Friday in DC and lost my rain jacket at the warner theater somewhere.

So now I'm looking for a nice rain jacket, any suggestions? I know its not really skateboarding related but ive gotten so many great recommendations on here that i thought i should ask. @Sanka Coffie with the gramicci tip and @jay_nev on the patagonia baggies, ive bought several pairs of each, thanks again guys.

currently looking at the patagonia torrentshell or slate sky, but i really dont know what else to look at. Didnt really like what carhartt had to offer which is my usual go to. Not stoked on north face either.
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@IpathCats Sorry if already mentioned but have you looked at Rains? The storm breaker jacket is really good.
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Yea I already went with one from mountain hardwear. thanks though!

How is it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 27, 2023, 02:30:00 PM
I could buy a box of Jessup sheet from the local distributor. I can't think of a single reason why grip will decrease it's quality over time but I wanted to make sure before I purchase. What's the best way to storage grip?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on March 27, 2023, 02:47:08 PM
I could buy a box of Jessup sheet from the local distributor. I can't think of a single reason why grip will decrease it's quality over time but I wanted to make sure before I purchase. What's the best way to storage grip?

I got free sheets of Jessup from a shop and it was brittle and didn‘t stick very good, probably lay around too long so be careful.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2023, 04:37:12 PM
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I could buy a box of Jessup sheet from the local distributor. I can't think of a single reason why grip will decrease it's quality over time but I wanted to make sure before I purchase. What's the best way to storage grip?
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I got free sheets of Jessup from a shop and it was brittle and didn‘t stick very good, probably lay around too long so be careful.


Some grip does lose its stickiness over time, but stored well, same as boards, flat and out of sunlight, heat, cold, etc and you should be fine with it for as long as you take to use it.

Still have some Jessup sheets that are ten or more years old and they work fine.  Others have come off their backing paper I have seen, but I don't think they were stored as well.

I feel like the current Jessup is better than what it has been as well, cause there were a few batches that seemed a bit average a few years back and people were having issues with them, but I have also heard the same about Mob and other grip too, some batches are as expected and some are not.

If the first sheet or three in the box are good, the rest should be as well.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 27, 2023, 08:00:37 PM
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Best method to make new shoes skateable.
I hate when they are stiff.

How does this microwave thing work? Anything else that works for you?
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Squish/fold them in every possible way.
Do some running in them.

For my shoes right now that just not enough. I hate them so much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on March 27, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
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I just saw alien workshop uploaded photosynthesis to YouTube and just started thinking why do brands give their videos to Thrasher/Free etc...like there is good money in YouTube...ok I understand for smaller brands that want exposure but ?
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I remember a few years ago AWS had an app called “Control Room” with their entire library of skate videos and edits from AWS and Habitat. Pretty cool app at the time. I just tried opening it though and it kept crashing. Not sure if it’s my phone or the app is defunct. I think some companies are starting to upload videos in house or on YouTubes other than Thrasher. Kader put out his last part on his own YouTube channel, Nyjah had his Nike part on their YouTube, pretty sure Primitive does most their videos on their channel.
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Thrasher YouTube will go the way of Transworld and ride channel. My only guess would be thrasher might put money towards the production of the videos but even this I doubt would be that much money and only for certain companies
Counterpoint; Thrasher has done a pretty peerless job of curating their YT channel and have a monopoly on US skate media. The rev share from their channel along with merch sales have allowed them to keep publishing the mag and earning ad revenue from a second endemic stream. I think it's a house of cards but it's better built than TWS or Ride were simply because the brand isn't owned by outsiders and as far as I know they aren't beholden to any shareholders, which was not the case for the other US Skate media outlets by the end of their runs.

I think with things like GX1000, Atlantic Drift, Homies etc they have already been putting money towards video production for years.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FGO925 on March 28, 2023, 11:15:13 AM
This is super random. But does anyone remember the name of the videos that had  Steven reeves and a bunch of other Oregon/PNW dudes? They had a couple full lengths they posted on YouTube. It was maybe called mall grab or something? 

I remember them fucking around drunk talking  about zattarans rice or saying skirdoosh a bunch. Probably not much to go off but worth a shot. Those videos were the shit and had a bunch or random drunk hijinx.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on March 28, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
This is super random. But does anyone remember the name of the videos that had  Steven reeves and a bunch of other Oregon/PNW dudes? They had a couple full lengths they posted on YouTube. It was maybe called mall grab or something? 

I remember them fucking around drunk talking  about zattarans rice or saying skirdoosh a bunch. Probably not much to go off but worth a shot. Those videos were the shit and had a bunch or random drunk hijinx.

I remember the first one was Camo Can. It was on the Lowcarc website in like 2009. Lots of camo black ice drinking it in that video. There were two videos and I can’t really remember the name of the second video but it could’ve been Mall Grab. I don’t remember if they were rhyming Zattarans rice with camo can in the first or second video
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on March 28, 2023, 02:12:32 PM
Are tyshawns or fastbreaks wider? Trying to decide my next skate shoes and as long as they are a bit wider than old skools i’m happy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 28, 2023, 02:37:23 PM
Are tyshawns or fastbreaks wider? Trying to decide my next skate shoes and as long as they are a bit wider than old skools i’m happy.
Fastbreaks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: turdtastic on March 28, 2023, 03:03:23 PM
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This is super random. But does anyone remember the name of the videos that had  Steven reeves and a bunch of other Oregon/PNW dudes? They had a couple full lengths they posted on YouTube. It was maybe called mall grab or something? 

I remember them fucking around drunk talking  about zattarans rice or saying skirdoosh a bunch. Probably not much to go off but worth a shot. Those videos were the shit and had a bunch or random drunk hijinx.
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I remember the first one was Camo Can. It was on the Lowcarc website in like 2009. Lots of camo black ice drinking it in that video. There were two videos and I can’t really remember the name of the second video but it could’ve been Mall Grab. I don’t remember if they were rhyming Zattarans rice with camo can in the first or second video
I recollect from when I first started lurking that during the infamous non-PC 2000s era of SLAP there used to be a super gnarly poster called Camo Can back in the day?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Southernmost on March 28, 2023, 06:18:39 PM
Are tyshawns or fastbreaks wider? Trying to decide my next skate shoes and as long as they are a bit wider than old skools i’m happy.

I wouldn’t say the Tyshawns are wide. I’d say they’re closer to standard or even almost narrow. Honestly, on first wear I didn’t care for them at all. But now I skate them all the time and they’re one of my favorite shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: texasplant on March 28, 2023, 08:18:10 PM
Likely answered in a different thread… what were the general wheelbases on  90/2000s setups? More specifically, Static/EE narrow board/big wheel setups?

Were they much longer than we’re used to seeing now? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 29, 2023, 03:30:44 AM
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I just saw alien workshop uploaded photosynthesis to YouTube and just started thinking why do brands give their videos to Thrasher/Free etc...like there is good money in YouTube...ok I understand for smaller brands that want exposure but ?
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I remember a few years ago AWS had an app called “Control Room” with their entire library of skate videos and edits from AWS and Habitat. Pretty cool app at the time. I just tried opening it though and it kept crashing. Not sure if it’s my phone or the app is defunct. I think some companies are starting to upload videos in house or on YouTubes other than Thrasher. Kader put out his last part on his own YouTube channel, Nyjah had his Nike part on their YouTube, pretty sure Primitive does most their videos on their channel.
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Thrasher YouTube will go the way of Transworld and ride channel. My only guess would be thrasher might put money towards the production of the videos but even this I doubt would be that much money and only for certain companies
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Counterpoint; Thrasher has done a pretty peerless job of curating their YT channel and have a monopoly on US skate media. The rev share from their channel along with merch sales have allowed them to keep publishing the mag and earning ad revenue from a second endemic stream. I think it's a house of cards but it's better built than TWS or Ride were simply because the brand isn't owned by outsiders and as far as I know they aren't beholden to any shareholders, which was not the case for the other US Skate media outlets by the end of their runs.

I think with things like GX1000, Atlantic Drift, Homies etc they have already been putting money towards video production for years.

Kinda related but its strange that for Skateline (28/3/23) there was no Free Skate Mag logo in Eniz Fazliov's clip but was in the Quarter Snacks (24/3/23). I get High Speed doesn't want to promote Free but did they ask for a copy with out it? Its a shame as the clip without the Free Mag logo looks so much better...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 29, 2023, 03:58:33 AM
Sorry to double post but anyone find any work shoes (steel toe etc) that are half decent to skate in? Like even just cruise at the site and slappy a curb or whatever...normally I get away with just using dunks but the safety are kinda on a rampage at the moment, honestly i'm not gonna fuck my foot up using a drill press to drill a few M8 clearance holes.. but now safety shoes are required in the workshop.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on March 29, 2023, 04:37:49 AM
I have a set of bearings that I’ve been using for 4 months and they were pretty fast for most of that time but they are starting to slow down a bit. They sound good, free spin well, and aren’t dirty. Will cleaning them make a difference? Maybe just add a little oil? Or is it time for a new set? I’ve always been hard on bearings for whatever reason and usually would have cleaned bearings twice in this amount of time, but haven’t touched this set just in case maybe I was overdoing the maintenance in the past.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on March 29, 2023, 06:10:54 AM
I have a set of bearings that I’ve been using for 4 months and they were pretty fast for most of that time but they are starting to slow down a bit. They sound good, free spin well, and aren’t dirty. Will cleaning them make a difference? Maybe just add a little oil? Or is it time for a new set? I’ve always been hard on bearings for whatever reason and usually would have cleaned bearings twice in this amount of time, but haven’t touched this set just in case maybe I was overdoing the maintenance in the past.

Depends how much you spent on them and how much time you want to spend cleaning.

Lazy like me - oil once, ride, and if they still suck just replace them with whatever is under $20 or on sale
Hardworking unlike me - clean them with alcohol, oil, and if they still suck just replace them with Bones Swiss
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on March 29, 2023, 08:00:21 AM
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I have a set of bearings that I’ve been using for 4 months and they were pretty fast for most of that time but they are starting to slow down a bit. They sound good, free spin well, and aren’t dirty. Will cleaning them make a difference? Maybe just add a little oil? Or is it time for a new set? I’ve always been hard on bearings for whatever reason and usually would have cleaned bearings twice in this amount of time, but haven’t touched this set just in case maybe I was overdoing the maintenance in the past.
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Depends how much you spent on them and how much time you want to spend cleaning.

Lazy like me - oil once, ride, and if they still suck just replace them with whatever is under $20 or on sale
Hardworking unlike me - clean them with alcohol, oil, and if they still suck just replace them with Bones Swiss

This is pretty much what I was thinking. They were about $35
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 29, 2023, 09:40:56 AM
Tyred of crap surfaces and stuff that doesn’t hold the speed at all

Best street wheels??
Classic 58
Conical full 54
Og classic 55
Radials 55
Classic full 54

Wich one you would go for??

Skating 8,25 and thunder trucks with bones swiss
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on March 29, 2023, 09:48:52 AM
Sorry to double post but anyone find any work shoes (steel toe etc) that are half decent to skate in? Like even just cruise at the site and slappy a curb or whatever...normally I get away with just using dunks but the safety are kinda on a rampage at the moment, honestly i'm not gonna fuck my foot up using a drill press to drill a few M8 clearance holes.. but now safety shoes are required in the workshop.
In Aus there's Dunlop volley. They're the classic kinda Chuck Taylor/vans retro sneaker but they make safety toe too. Def casual skateable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on March 29, 2023, 10:43:12 AM
Tyred of crap surfaces and stuff that doesn’t hold the speed at all

Best street wheels??
Classic 58
Conical full 54
Og classic 55
Radials 55
Classic full 54

Wich one you would go for??

Skating 8,25 and thunder trucks with bones swiss
based on your truck selection, I would go w/ either of those 54mm jawns, as Thunders tend to hit wheelbite pretty quick.
If you run them tighter, or stack a riser or two under there, you can gu up to those 55s without too much difficulty.
I run my Thunders on the looser side of medium without risers & can’t manage anything bigger than a 54, personally.
Weighing in at around 160ish, if that further advises your decision making process.
Best of luck sorting that out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 29, 2023, 11:04:24 AM
I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 29, 2023, 11:58:00 AM
i personally dont need such big wheels nowadays. i rode like 56-58mm wheels for time but small wheels are way better for slappys and not wheelbiting. i go fast enough anyway. i have a setup with big wheels if i need them, but i am finding most of the skating im doing doesnt need it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on March 29, 2023, 12:06:52 PM
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Sorry to double post but anyone find any work shoes (steel toe etc) that are half decent to skate in? Like even just cruise at the site and slappy a curb or whatever...normally I get away with just using dunks but the safety are kinda on a rampage at the moment, honestly i'm not gonna fuck my foot up using a drill press to drill a few M8 clearance holes.. but now safety shoes are required in the workshop.
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In Aus there's Dunlop volley. They're the classic kinda Chuck Taylor/vans retro sneaker but they make safety toe too. Def casual skateable.

Volcom makes some steel toe sneakers. Not on Volcom’s site but if you google “Volcom steel toe “ they should pop up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on March 29, 2023, 12:28:45 PM
Do I need these?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYUXy6J2-F/?hl=en
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 29, 2023, 12:44:13 PM
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Sorry to double post but anyone find any work shoes (steel toe etc) that are half decent to skate in? Like even just cruise at the site and slappy a curb or whatever...normally I get away with just using dunks but the safety are kinda on a rampage at the moment, honestly i'm not gonna fuck my foot up using a drill press to drill a few M8 clearance holes.. but now safety shoes are required in the workshop.
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In Aus there's Dunlop volley. They're the classic kinda Chuck Taylor/vans retro sneaker but they make safety toe too. Def casual skateable.
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Volcom makes some steel toe sneakers. Not on Volcom’s site but if you google “Volcom steel toe “ they should pop up.

Thank you pals..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on March 29, 2023, 01:03:13 PM
I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?

Maybe for a couple days. do you skate them right out the box? Or do you wear them for a week or so or whatever break in ritual you might have?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 29, 2023, 01:42:38 PM
I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?


if you've to skate new shoes right out of box, plan on doing less to zero kickflips and just work on basic stuff that takes advantage of all that grip. 360 flips still usually work right out of the box, kickflips just suck, especially depending on the height of the foxing or high cupsole, rubber toe capped, ect...

halfflips, caspers probably work great, idk i never really fucked with those but kickflips get toe wrapped by most people with new shoes. new shoes, new grip, forget about it!

as always walk around in new shoes for awhile 1st, they're still gonna toe wrap though.
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 29, 2023, 01:43:14 PM
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I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
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Last pair was out the box. But they sucked so bad that I stopped skating them after three days. Average one stars, no skate version and they were so extreme stiff and heavy. The flick was the worst I ever had with a shoe.

Now I skate Nike sb‘s and I was wearing them ten years ago, but they are I really good shape still. They skate good, but still compared to my last shoes I suck skating them. They are also high‘s. First high pair I ever skated I think. Not my thing.
But it’s the third day, so let’s see.

Maybe for a couple days. do you skate them right out the box? Or do you wear them for a week or so or whatever break in ritual you might have?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 29, 2023, 01:46:20 PM
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I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
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if you've to skate new shoes right out of box, plan on doing less to zero kickflips and just work on basic stuff that takes advantage of all that grip. 360 flips still usually work right out of the box, kickflips just suck, especially depending on the height of the foxing or high cupsole, rubber toe capped, ect...

halfflips, caspers probably work great, idk i never really fucked with those but kickflips get toe wrapped by most people with new shoes. new shoes, new grip, forget about it!

as always walk around in new shoes for awhile 1st, they're still gonna toe wrap though.

Yeah. I’m usually 200% consistent with kickflips, but they still sick with those shoes.
How long would you wear them before skating them?
And when would you say shoes start to skate good?

And how long do you skate your shoes? Mine are done quick. So it sucks to always have days that skating is no fun with new shoes. Every few weeks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on March 29, 2023, 04:26:22 PM
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I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
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if you've to skate new shoes right out of box, plan on doing less to zero kickflips and just work on basic stuff that takes advantage of all that grip. 360 flips still usually work right out of the box, kickflips just suck, especially depending on the height of the foxing or high cupsole, rubber toe capped, ect...

halfflips, caspers probably work great, idk i never really fucked with those but kickflips get toe wrapped by most people with new shoes. new shoes, new grip, forget about it!

as always walk around in new shoes for awhile 1st, they're still gonna toe wrap though.
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Yeah. I’m usually 200% consistent with kickflips, but they still sick with those shoes.
How long would you wear them before skating them?
And when would you say shoes start to skate good?

And how long do you skate your shoes? Mine are done quick. So it sucks to always have days that skating is no fun with new shoes. Every few weeks.


i like to get 2 weeks of on the feet, full day or at least half day wear, walking, working, whatnot. i usually have nice grippy, grip. that's something to be mindful of, shoes fresh out of the box can kickflip great on worn ass grip, board feel and flex wont be the best. i'd still rather they were broken in though.

shoes skate best when you are stoked on them, not much else helps a shoe you already don't like. it's hard to beat that, these shoes are going to make me ollie higher, flip better feeling, even though they rarely do, lol.

i give away shoes while there's still tread, but one shoe gets noticeably more worn. people probably wear them for another 3weeks-month of skating before there's no tread. i'll usually get a months worth of skating out them, minimal flipping going on now for me, some stitching ripping from flick but no holes. mostly trans. and small ledges & curbs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: linty on March 30, 2023, 12:25:17 AM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on March 30, 2023, 07:40:57 AM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?

I also have a pretty big head and not all beanies fit me well. I buy plain ol' beanies at the dollar store and they are great. I'm in Canada though, so I don't think there are Dollaramas elsewhere...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 30, 2023, 07:49:04 AM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?

carhartt   
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on March 30, 2023, 07:51:40 AM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?

the scifi beanies are pretty thick and wide imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: linty on March 30, 2023, 08:39:18 AM
carhartt
Not sure if the workwear sizing is different but the WIP ones are t i n y.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on March 30, 2023, 09:28:29 AM
carpet beanies are a nice shape. they’re wide
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: formula420 on March 30, 2023, 02:48:55 PM
I like my dime beanie, but that's probably the last acrylic beanie I'll get. What's good with wool beanies/who makes a good one?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on March 30, 2023, 03:08:33 PM
I like my dime beanie, but that's probably the last acrylic beanie I'll get. What's good with wool beanies/who makes a good one?

I don't own any skate branded wool beanies, but I've got a few from - of all places - J Crew, which have been really great quality. They always have crazy sales where everything from winter is like 75% off so if you wait (or look now, since it's spring) you can score then for super cheap.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: swellbowed on March 30, 2023, 04:37:42 PM
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Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?
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the scifi beanies are pretty thick and wide imo
Agreed
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on March 30, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
Ain’t nobody googles though?!?
I entered the term “wool beanie” into the search bar, filtered for price: low to high, and also for material (wool) since it gave the option.
These things are starting at around $5 USD, often shipped at that price.
There are colors-a-plenty available, as well as multiple styles/cuts(?) including le toque de jour, the Fisherman, as made popular by NYC skaters & art directors the world over.
Save some $$$ for shoes or hard goods & keep your head comfy/cozy for less, maybe?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 30, 2023, 06:01:06 PM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?

If you’ve got an Army surplus store you can get a wool watch cap for about $5-10. If not, google watch cap and you can find them cheap also,
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on March 31, 2023, 07:08:28 AM
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I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
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if you've to skate new shoes right out of box, plan on doing less to zero kickflips and just work on basic stuff that takes advantage of all that grip. 360 flips still usually work right out of the box, kickflips just suck, especially depending on the height of the foxing or high cupsole, rubber toe capped, ect...

halfflips, caspers probably work great, idk i never really fucked with those but kickflips get toe wrapped by most people with new shoes. new shoes, new grip, forget about it!

as always walk around in new shoes for awhile 1st, they're still gonna toe wrap though.
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Yeah. I’m usually 200% consistent with kickflips, but they still sick with those shoes.
How long would you wear them before skating them?
And when would you say shoes start to skate good?

And how long do you skate your shoes? Mine are done quick. So it sucks to always have days that skating is no fun with new shoes. Every few weeks.
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i like to get 2 weeks of on the feet, full day or at least half day wear, walking, working, whatnot. i usually have nice grippy, grip. that's something to be mindful of, shoes fresh out of the box can kickflip great on worn ass grip, board feel and flex wont be the best. i'd still rather they were broken in though.

shoes skate best when you are stoked on them, not much else helps a shoe you already don't like. it's hard to beat that, these shoes are going to make me ollie higher, flip better feeling, even though they rarely do, lol.

i give away shoes while there's still tread, but one shoe gets noticeably more worn. people probably wear them for another 3weeks-month of skating before there's no tread. i'll usually get a months worth of skating out them, minimal flipping going on now for me, some stitching ripping from flick but no holes. mostly trans. and small ledges & curbs.

At a Enjoi demo yearsssss ago I was sitting by Jose Rojo and he was scrapping his flicking shoe up against his fresh grip to help break in his new etnies so the foxing tape would'nt stick to his griptape. I've done that with half cabs that usually take forever to get the flick smooth and noticed it helped.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on March 31, 2023, 07:50:14 AM
Tyred of crap surfaces and stuff that doesn’t hold the speed at all

Best street wheels??
Classic 58
Conical full 54
Og classic 55
Radials 55
Classic full 54

Wich one you would go for??

Skating 8,25 and thunder trucks with bones swiss

I’d say depending how tech you get etc. but my opinion I’d run classic fulls or the 58 classics and wear them down to the size you like. Radials after that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 31, 2023, 09:08:37 AM
Looking for a slightly chunkier beanie for my big cranium and so far the best option I've come across is this GX1000 one.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Beanie1022SprayGreen_1024x1024.jpg)
Not too keen on the turtle doodles, though. Does anyone know any plain alternatives?

I got a Magenta beanie a while ago and that thing is mad big and thick and I sweat like crazy in the winter. And they have cool colors.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 31, 2023, 10:39:52 AM
incredible artwork on that gx1000 hat  ;D   my 7 year old daughter could draw a better ninja turtle than that  8) im gonna start my own brand this summer there is a shop down the street from me that does all the shit. i already drew my first graphic and imo its better than that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on March 31, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
Idk if I should skate the Manteca 4 or the Globe Austyn dover shoe?
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Post by: eSK3 on March 31, 2023, 11:26:27 AM
Idk if I should skate the Manteca 4 or the Globe Austyn dover shoe?

Skate the Manteca
Donate the Globes to the homeless shelter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on March 31, 2023, 01:41:42 PM
I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on March 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too


Don’t know how it started but it’s been around since the 90’s . Same as turning wheel graphics in or turning wheel graphics in except one wheel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 31, 2023, 03:05:05 PM
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I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too
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Don’t know how it started but it’s been around since the 90’s . Same as turning wheel graphics in or turning wheel graphics in except one wheel.
I tried two bolts each truck and three bolts each truck, eventually the board turns one way too much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 31, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too

Unironic answer: it looks cool
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 31, 2023, 06:07:24 PM
I want to grab a pair of half cab 92 skates, I haven’t had any pairs of the skate line and wanted to check on sizing.
Last pair of vans were when Rowan’s came out
I got 10.5 in the Rowans
Should I get 10.5 in the half cab?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: brownjenkin on March 31, 2023, 06:46:34 PM
What shoe is most like the Chima 1? It's minimalist but with a little bit of tongue padding. Fits like a slightly beefed up Gravis Filter.

I want to try to find non-Pro vans Era with a suede forefoot and swap the footbed with a pop cush insole. Vans pros tend to feel really clunky and rubbery, and by the time I've broken in the flick area, they've sogged out. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: brownjenkin on March 31, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
What shoe is most like the Chima 1? It's minimalist but with a little bit of tongue padding. Fits like a slightly beefed up Gravis Filter.

I want to try to find non-Pro vans Era with a suede forefoot and swap the footbed with a pop cush insole. Vans pros tend to feel really clunky and rubbery, and by the time I've broken in the flick area, they've sogged out.

***Vans "Skate", not Pro

*shit, meant to edit, not reply to myself
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on April 01, 2023, 11:52:40 AM
They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?

I’ve been on the SKFs for a good while now, almost exclusively since they came out with the skate bearings again last summer. I don’t like how they sound. I’m not a “loud bearing person” at all but the grease in the SKFs do make them sound dead. It almost feels like you’d be on softer wheels as the sound is so much more dampened. They also seem a bit sluggish. I changed wheels at some point and had some Bones Big Balls in that were not old. They stared making noise so I figured I’d clean them. Cages were broken in half of them. Pieces of shit but they were fast. Changed to the SKFs on the same wheels and skating the same few indoor parks due to winter it was easy to notice that they SKFs were slower. I still manage fine but I see no reason to buy then again. Unfortunately I got three sets when I bought them as I was going through some gear madness back then. So if they end up lasting a long time I guess I’ll have some in rotation for a while. No idea how long they’ll last. Been the same since I got them. Dunno how they’d perform when cleaned and lubed with some Bones Speed Cream. When they start slowing down or making bad noises I’ll do that and report back maybe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on April 01, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
incredible artwork on that gx1000 hat  ;D   my 7 year old daughter could draw a better ninja turtle than that  8) im gonna start my own brand this summer there is a shop down the street from me that does all the shit. i already drew my first graphic and imo its better than that

redraw that by hand and i'll buy it on a shirt
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on April 01, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
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I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too
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Don’t know how it started but it’s been around since the 90’s . Same as turning wheel graphics in or turning wheel graphics in except one wheel.


i use to this back then, i remember seeing Chris Markovich do it, he would setup so many boards that i guess he got tired of using all four bolts. sometimes he wouldn't even make it out of the Street Machine parking lot w/o having to setup a new board, focus.

i broke a couple sets of Venture baseplates and indy baseplates before i realized what was going on and switched to three bolts, then back to four. with two bolts the baseplate can crack pretty easily when the board flexes on impact.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 02, 2023, 04:39:09 AM
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What shoe is most like the Chima 1? It's minimalist but with a little bit of tongue padding. Fits like a slightly beefed up Gravis Filter.

I want to try to find non-Pro vans Era with a suede forefoot and swap the footbed with a pop cush insole. Vans pros tend to feel really clunky and rubbery, and by the time I've broken in the flick area, they've sogged out.
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***Vans "Skate", not Pro

*shit, meant to edit, not reply to myself
Emerica John Dickson looks pretty similar to Chima's first shoe. As far as regular vans with suede they do come out pretty often and if not they almost always have all black leather ones

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqTPQdnpgTt/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 02, 2023, 08:36:47 AM
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I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too
[close]

Unironic answer: it looks cool

It does look cool. Because reckless/different

I heard/read it started in the 90s when the boards were much more…temporary. Quicker changeout.
Wallows out the baseplates, but whatever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on April 02, 2023, 12:32:57 PM
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I been watching that some skaters doesnt use the 4 bolts of each truck. They doesnt put one of their inner bolts of each truck

Somebody got any idea about why that?

Guy mariano rides like that, you guys cam easy chek on hes ig
And Joseph Campos does it too
[close]


Don’t know how it started but it’s been around since the 90’s . Same as turning wheel graphics in or turning wheel graphics in except one wheel.
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I tried two bolts each truck and three bolts each truck, eventually the board turns one way too much.

never did it on purpose but losing hardware was inevitable when i skated hard and countersank bolts. it might be a habit or superstition thing for some people
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on April 02, 2023, 04:38:36 PM
Any way to buy stock Indy bushings without buying a set of trucks?  After market bushings (sold by Indy) are opaque compared to the semi-translucent bushings that come with the truck.  I’ve noticed that they turn differently
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 02, 2023, 05:00:28 PM
Any way to buy stock Indy bushings without buying a set of trucks?  After market bushings (sold by Indy) are opaque compared to the semi-translucent bushings that come with the truck.  I’ve noticed that they turn differently

I never noticed a difference, but you could buy some trucks and some bushings, swap them and return the trucks as new.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 02, 2023, 05:30:33 PM
Likely answered in a different thread… what were the general wheelbases on  90/2000s setups? More specifically, Static/EE narrow board/big wheel setups?

Were they much longer than we’re used to seeing now?


Two boards I have that I bought as completes maybe ten or more years ago that are almost new old stock, from about that era I think were these two with dimensions listed:


World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels


Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings



(https://i.ibb.co/XLFN19n/Decks-1996.jpg) (https://ibb.co/54stmdQ)



That is not to say that there weren't other boards both with longer or shorter wheelbases around the same time, as I recall some people like Dan Drehobl skated a long wheelbase board for the China Banks tricks like frontside decker / disaster, but then couldn't do it again when he had changed to a shorter wheelbase board, which I think was around that time.


Edit:


My "Huffer shaped" board from The Firm from 1992 was 9" at the widest point, almost 32 long with 14" wheelbase, but that was the start of the shorter more tech boards coming from the 80s vert setups where the nose got longer, the tail got smaller and the wheelbase came in a whole lot.

Another board from about 2000 was again 14" wb at about 8" or just under and 31.7 or so long, but they are practically done now and not worth taking pics of.

All of these are absolutely flat as flat can be, but still probably have a bit more concave than some of the specialty DOA or other boards.

I have more pics of these ones if anyone is interested too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 02, 2023, 05:43:47 PM
I tend to think most of the stuff was 14", once boards pushed 8"'s and the predominant manufacturer shifted towards BBS/Generator, the wheelbases got bigger. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 02, 2023, 08:53:56 PM
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They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?
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I’ve been on the SKFs for a good while now, almost exclusively since they came out with the skate bearings again last summer. I don’t like how they sound. I’m not a “loud bearing person” at all but the grease in the SKFs do make them sound dead. It almost feels like you’d be on softer wheels as the sound is so much more dampened. They also seem a bit sluggish. I changed wheels at some point and had some Bones Big Balls in that were not old. They stared making noise so I figured I’d clean them. Cages were broken in half of them. Pieces of shit but they were fast. Changed to the SKFs on the same wheels and skating the same few indoor parks due to winter it was easy to notice that they SKFs were slower. I still manage fine but I see no reason to buy then again. Unfortunately I got three sets when I bought them as I was going through some gear madness back then. So if they end up lasting a long time I guess I’ll have some in rotation for a while. No idea how long they’ll last. Been the same since I got them. Dunno how they’d perform when cleaned and lubed with some Bones Speed Cream. When they start slowing down or making bad noises I’ll do that and report back maybe.

I told 3 friends not to get SKF because of the grease and they all did and didn't like them, same as above. I took 1 set, degreased, used some gun oil in em and they're better than stock but still nothing special.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on April 03, 2023, 05:30:47 AM
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I‘m 50 % less better skater when I skate new shoes for the first week.

Is it just me?
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if you've to skate new shoes right out of box, plan on doing less to zero kickflips and just work on basic stuff that takes advantage of all that grip. 360 flips still usually work right out of the box, kickflips just suck, especially depending on the height of the foxing or high cupsole, rubber toe capped, ect...

halfflips, caspers probably work great, idk i never really fucked with those but kickflips get toe wrapped by most people with new shoes. new shoes, new grip, forget about it!

as always walk around in new shoes for awhile 1st, they're still gonna toe wrap though.
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Yeah. I’m usually 200% consistent with kickflips, but they still sick with those shoes.
How long would you wear them before skating them?
And when would you say shoes start to skate good?

And how long do you skate your shoes? Mine are done quick. So it sucks to always have days that skating is no fun with new shoes. Every few weeks.

If I could skate brand new shoes every single day I would, when my shoes start to break in I feel like things get less crispy. I love new shoe kickflips.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 03, 2023, 03:36:28 PM
End 90‘s/2000 eastcoast rap vibe skate videos?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 04, 2023, 06:42:18 AM
End 90‘s/2000 eastcoast rap vibe skate videos?

Zoo York EST, Mixtape, Heads
Aesthetics Ryde or Die
AWS Photosynthesis
4 Cities
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 04, 2023, 10:40:34 AM
I was looking at purchasing a Palace deck at my local, but then I checked the dimensions online and they seem pretty crazy to me. I usually ride anyting from 8.25 to 8.5, and I usually like the wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, although I've skated some that were 14.13 limosine that felt pretty good also.

But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)

That seems pretty wild to me, has anyone ever skated a deck with such a long wheelbase and short nose and tail? If so, let me know how that felt. I almost wanna try it out, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it, so I probably won't.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 04, 2023, 11:30:14 AM


But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)



disgusting
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 04, 2023, 12:00:03 PM
What does switching from indy standard to ace classics feel like. Is that a smooth transition? I never rode indies, this isn't about me but a really great kid at my local with indies that are falling apart. Thinking about giving away my aces and don't want to fuck it up for him. I know he would ride them until they fall apart, due to being very grateful for anything he gets.

Probably better with riser pads, but I doubt he'd want that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 04, 2023, 01:02:00 PM
What does switching from indy standard to ace classics feel like. Is that a smooth transition? I never rode indies, this isn't about me but a really great kid at my local with indies that are falling apart. Thinking about giving away my aces and don't want to fuck it up for him. I know he would ride them until they fall apart, due to being very grateful for anything he gets.

Probably better with riser pads, but I doubt he'd want that

I can switch between Ace and Indy without really noticing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 04, 2023, 02:21:10 PM
Has anyone had any luck requesting specific DLX deck numbers when mailordering? It's not a must have, but it would be nice if Tactics or a similar store with deep inventory could send "a III or IV if you've got it thanks". I realize this is kook behavior, but my locals rarely seem to have DLX stock and when they do they get one of each deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 04, 2023, 04:35:34 PM
I was looking at purchasing a Palace deck at my local, but then I checked the dimensions online and they seem pretty crazy to me. I usually ride anyting from 8.25 to 8.5, and I usually like the wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, although I've skated some that were 14.13 limosine that felt pretty good also.

But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)

That seems pretty wild to me, has anyone ever skated a deck with such a long wheelbase and short nose and tail? If so, let me know how that felt. I almost wanna try it out, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it, so I probably won't.


Others have had it, some just gave it away, others drilled in the tail to make it a shorter wheelbase and better tail.  They also said the board is not as short as the specs say it is, but if you don't want to have to modify it, I would probably say it is not worth it.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 04, 2023, 04:36:56 PM
Has anyone had any luck requesting specific DLX deck numbers when mailordering? It's not a must have, but it would be nice if Tactics or a similar store with deep inventory could send "a III or IV if you've got it thanks". I realize this is kook behavior, but my locals rarely seem to have DLX stock and when they do they get one of each deck.
I tried and even apologizedfor being a nerd about it. Asked for a III or IV and got a II. Oh well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 04, 2023, 05:19:03 PM
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I was looking at purchasing a Palace deck at my local, but then I checked the dimensions online and they seem pretty crazy to me. I usually ride anyting from 8.25 to 8.5, and I usually like the wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, although I've skated some that were 14.13 limosine that felt pretty good also.

But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)

That seems pretty wild to me, has anyone ever skated a deck with such a long wheelbase and short nose and tail? If so, let me know how that felt. I almost wanna try it out, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it, so I probably won't.
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Others have had it, some just gave it away, others drilled in the tail to make it a shorter wheelbase and better tail.  They also said the board is not as short as the specs say it is, but if you don't want to have to modify it, I would probably say it is not worth it.

Yeah, I'm not about to buy a deck to then have to drill it to make it skateable. I'm just gonna pass. I was just curious to know if anyone actually liked skating it, because to me these dimensions seem borderline blasphemous.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 04, 2023, 05:26:09 PM
Is it insane to put a 56mm on an 8.125?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on April 04, 2023, 05:30:17 PM
Is it insane to put a 56mm on an 8.125?

Nah
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on April 05, 2023, 01:29:05 AM
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They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?
[close]

I’ve been on the SKFs for a good while now, almost exclusively since they came out with the skate bearings again last summer. I don’t like how they sound. I’m not a “loud bearing person” at all but the grease in the SKFs do make them sound dead. It almost feels like you’d be on softer wheels as the sound is so much more dampened. They also seem a bit sluggish. I changed wheels at some point and had some Bones Big Balls in that were not old. They stared making noise so I figured I’d clean them. Cages were broken in half of them. Pieces of shit but they were fast. Changed to the SKFs on the same wheels and skating the same few indoor parks due to winter it was easy to notice that they SKFs were slower. I still manage fine but I see no reason to buy then again. Unfortunately I got three sets when I bought them as I was going through some gear madness back then. So if they end up lasting a long time I guess I’ll have some in rotation for a while. No idea how long they’ll last. Been the same since I got them. Dunno how they’d perform when cleaned and lubed with some Bones Speed Cream. When they start slowing down or making bad noises I’ll do that and report back maybe.

my experience with those was much different. i’ve had my set for about a year now, i skate very often, not one bearing broke, no blowouts, they seem to seize up sometimes when i’m just spinning my wheels with my hand but then i throw down and they roll just fine, they don’t feel slow at all. i haven’t cleaned them once (other than just wiping off the dust from the outside) and they are much louder than they were when i first set them up too. these are the best bearings i’ve ever bought, better than reds and super reds for sure. i’ve never had swiss or quantum though so idk about these but as far as the mid price range bearings go these are very good imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on April 05, 2023, 01:44:05 AM
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Has anyone had any luck requesting specific DLX deck numbers when mailordering? It's not a must have, but it would be nice if Tactics or a similar store with deep inventory could send "a III or IV if you've got it thanks". I realize this is kook behavior, but my locals rarely seem to have DLX stock and when they do they get one of each deck.
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I tried and even apologizedfor being a nerd about it. Asked for a III or IV and got a II. Oh well.

Kinda dependant on the store/employee I guess. I was really OCD about my ply colors for a while, and I'd ask for a specific top ply. Some were happy to help, some said they'd take care of it and throw in a random color anyway and some just ignored the request. I once returned a deck because the graphic was misprinted and not completely centered. Really glad I got over this obsession, I must've gotten many eyes rolling at the office for that return.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on April 05, 2023, 01:08:53 PM
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They weren’t able to handle the criticism.

Anyone skate SKFs? If so, how are they compared to Bones Reds?
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I’ve been on the SKFs for a good while now, almost exclusively since they came out with the skate bearings again last summer. I don’t like how they sound. I’m not a “loud bearing person” at all but the grease in the SKFs do make them sound dead. It almost feels like you’d be on softer wheels as the sound is so much more dampened. They also seem a bit sluggish. I changed wheels at some point and had some Bones Big Balls in that were not old. They stared making noise so I figured I’d clean them. Cages were broken in half of them. Pieces of shit but they were fast. Changed to the SKFs on the same wheels and skating the same few indoor parks due to winter it was easy to notice that they SKFs were slower. I still manage fine but I see no reason to buy then again. Unfortunately I got three sets when I bought them as I was going through some gear madness back then. So if they end up lasting a long time I guess I’ll have some in rotation for a while. No idea how long they’ll last. Been the same since I got them. Dunno how they’d perform when cleaned and lubed with some Bones Speed Cream. When they start slowing down or making bad noises I’ll do that and report back maybe.
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my experience with those was much different. i’ve had my set for about a year now, i skate very often, not one bearing broke, no blowouts, they seem to seize up sometimes when i’m just spinning my wheels with my hand but then i throw down and they roll just fine, they don’t feel slow at all. i haven’t cleaned them once (other than just wiping off the dust from the outside) and they are much louder than they were when i first set them up too. these are the best bearings i’ve ever bought, better than reds and super reds for sure. i’ve never had swiss or quantum though so idk about these but as far as the mid price range bearings go these are very good imo

That's good to hear. Maybe I'll like them better after cleaning. Would be nice if they last a long time and roll a bit better. Still, it's gonna be very hard to beat the Bones Swiss Six. Those bearings are amazing and well worth the money in my opinion. I think I'm done experimenting and just stick with the Bones Swiss Six from now on after I've busted all my current bearings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doublesteveburger on April 05, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on April 05, 2023, 04:17:04 PM
What's a good hollow replacement king pin for thunder trucks? The ones they come with are wildly short. I'd like to loosen my board up even more but the hardware literally unscrews itself!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 05, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)

They don't
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 05, 2023, 04:26:41 PM
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does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)
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They don't

You gotta replace the stock insole it is a terrible foamy piece of shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 05, 2023, 05:03:56 PM
does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)

He looks very great and it’s almost annoying.
I got a pair of 70s last year for possibly this very reason, and loved them walking around, shit I even wore them roofing. First kickflip I was like ‘oh fuck no’…
Just hurt.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: sle_epy on April 05, 2023, 05:06:39 PM
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does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)
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He looks very great and it’s almost annoying.
I got a pair of 70s last year for possibly this very reason, and loved them walking around, shit I even wore them roofing. First kickflip I was like ‘oh fuck no’…
Just hurt.

My friend skates in knock off cheap Chuck Taylors and she does drops and stuff. I don't know how her feet hold up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 05, 2023, 05:24:27 PM
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does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)
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He looks very great and it’s almost annoying.
I got a pair of 70s last year for possibly this very reason, and loved them walking around, shit I even wore them roofing. First kickflip I was like ‘oh fuck no’…
Just hurt.
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My friend skates in knock off cheap Chuck Taylors and she does drops and stuff. I don't know how her feet hold up.

I’m gonna guess and say that your friend isn’t a husky man, in his 40s.
And they are undoubtedly tougher than I (not much of an achievement, but worth noting).
Youth, relative, plays a big factor in my opinion, as far as the foot pain threshold goes. I’ve seen plenty of old fucks skating in converse, flimsy vans, the like, but few were doing tricks that pop.


I did get more used to the 70s and ended up
Skating them for a little bit and would recommend them, with the obvious caveat that they are not orthopedic, and are possibly unhealthy.
But. They look fantastic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 05, 2023, 06:44:33 PM
What's a good hollow replacement king pin for thunder trucks? The ones they come with are wildly short. I'd like to loosen my board up even more but the hardware literally unscrews itself!


Replacing kingpins is difficult and painful.

Using low head bushings or low top bushings are a much better option so you still get the kingpin clearance, the kingpin nut nicely on and enough turn.

Two options, either cut down the top bushing - usually cut a mm or two at most off the bottom of the bushing so it sits lower and you can still have the loose feeling, with the nut securely on, etc.

Venture have the new "loose truck conversion kit" of which people have taken and just used the top bushing, but it would still be easy to put those bushings in any truck.

I can also send you links to the "how to cut your bushings down" as well if you like.

It really does make a difference.


This post in the set up thread, with another person explaining how it works too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3990471#msg3990471


Adding this here anyway:


The Venture "loose trucks conversion" kit has a low top bushing, so you can have the kingpin nut down a lot more and still have way more turn to the trucks, which is the idea behind the product / kit.  Indy and other brands have had this in the past, of which I bought a lot so I would never run out, but overall the use of low top bushings seems to have faded out with fewer low trucks on the market nowdays.

We used to cut down our top bushings (and still do in some cases) to give more clearance and or more turn and I definitely find the low heads on bushings a lot easier to use when trucks get well worn or I need a lower kingpin head.

For reference:

https://venturetrucks.net/

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/12-ve-sp23-d1-polished.jpg)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfrontshuv on April 05, 2023, 06:49:21 PM
anyone with experience ordering from Chicostix know if they supply griptape with each board ordered? they dont have any grip for sale on the website
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on April 05, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
anyone with experience ordering from Chicostix know if they supply griptape with each board ordered? they dont have any grip for sale on the website

No grip was included for my Poets deck order.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 05, 2023, 07:34:59 PM
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No grip was included for my Poets deck order.

Oooooh you got one? I am the biggest Gino Stan, and seeing him on that setup was too dope
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: The Mexican Nancy Chin on April 05, 2023, 08:36:52 PM
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What's a good hollow replacement king pin for thunder trucks? The ones they come with are wildly short. I'd like to loosen my board up even more but the hardware literally unscrews itself!
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Replacing kingpins is difficult and painful.

Using low head bushings or low top bushings are a much better option so you still get the kingpin clearance, the kingpin nut nicely on and enough turn.

Two options, either cut down the top bushing - usually cut a mm or two at most off the bottom of the bushing so it sits lower and you can still have the loose feeling, with the nut securely on, etc.

Venture have the new "loose truck conversion kit" of which people have taken and just used the top bushing, but it would still be easy to put those bushings in any truck.

I can also send you links to the "how to cut your bushings down" as well if you like.

It really does make a difference.


This post in the set up thread, with another person explaining how it works too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3990471#msg3990471


Adding this here anyway:


The Venture "loose trucks conversion" kit has a low top bushing, so you can have the kingpin nut down a lot more and still have way more turn to the trucks, which is the idea behind the product / kit.  Indy and other brands have had this in the past, of which I bought a lot so I would never run out, but overall the use of low top bushings seems to have faded out with fewer low trucks on the market nowdays.

We used to cut down our top bushings (and still do in some cases) to give more clearance and or more turn and I definitely find the low heads on bushings a lot easier to use when trucks get well worn or I need a lower kingpin head.

For reference:

https://venturetrucks.net/

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/12-ve-sp23-d1-polished.jpg)

I actually just take off the top bushing and it's worked great for me for years (I skate indys). I've seen other people do it to with other brands. I know Daewon does it. Frank Gerwer skates Thunders and does the low head bushings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: venture5.8 on April 05, 2023, 08:46:39 PM
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I was looking at purchasing a Palace deck at my local, but then I checked the dimensions online and they seem pretty crazy to me. I usually ride anyting from 8.25 to 8.5, and I usually like the wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, although I've skated some that were 14.13 limosine that felt pretty good also.

But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)

That seems pretty wild to me, has anyone ever skated a deck with such a long wheelbase and short nose and tail? If so, let me know how that felt. I almost wanna try it out, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it, so I probably won't.
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Others have had it, some just gave it away, others drilled in the tail to make it a shorter wheelbase and better tail.  They also said the board is not as short as the specs say it is, but if you don't want to have to modify it, I would probably say it is not worth it.
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Yeah, I'm not about to buy a deck to then have to drill it to make it skateable. I'm just gonna pass. I was just curious to know if anyone actually liked skating it, because to me these dimensions seem borderline blasphemous.
If you want to skate a palace that badly I think the 8.25 and 8.5 shapes are more normal dims. Idk why the 8.38 is so odd compared to the others
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on April 05, 2023, 11:08:38 PM
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anyone with experience ordering from Chicostix know if they supply griptape with each board ordered? they dont have any grip for sale on the website
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No grip was included for my Poets deck order.
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Oooooh you got one? I am the biggest Gino Stan, and seeing him on that setup was too dope

Yeah dude I think they still have them in stock, there is a 50% off deck code still floating around (CHICOSTIX50,)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on April 06, 2023, 05:19:28 AM
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I have a set of bearings that I’ve been using for 4 months and they were pretty fast for most of that time but they are starting to slow down a bit. They sound good, free spin well, and aren’t dirty. Will cleaning them make a difference? Maybe just add a little oil? Or is it time for a new set? I’ve always been hard on bearings for whatever reason and usually would have cleaned bearings twice in this amount of time, but haven’t touched this set just in case maybe I was overdoing the maintenance in the past.
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Depends how much you spent on them and how much time you want to spend cleaning.

Lazy like me - oil once, ride, and if they still suck just replace them with whatever is under $20 or on sale
Hardworking unlike me - clean them with alcohol, oil, and if they still suck just replace them with Bones Swiss
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This is pretty much what I was thinking. They were about $35
If you're spending 35 bucks on bearings that you have to replace you might as well spend an extra 25 to 30 on swiss and just clean them every few months.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 06, 2023, 06:50:30 AM
sounds like i need to try chuck 70s now  ;D
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Post by: LebowskisRug on April 06, 2023, 06:55:28 AM
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I was looking at purchasing a Palace deck at my local, but then I checked the dimensions online and they seem pretty crazy to me. I usually ride anyting from 8.25 to 8.5, and I usually like the wheelbase anywhere between 14.25 and 14.5, although I've skated some that were 14.13 limosine that felt pretty good also.

But Palace are listed as 14.0 for 8.25 and 14.84 wheelbase for the 8.375, with a tiny nose (6.69) and tail (6.38)

That seems pretty wild to me, has anyone ever skated a deck with such a long wheelbase and short nose and tail? If so, let me know how that felt. I almost wanna try it out, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it, so I probably won't.
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Others have had it, some just gave it away, others drilled in the tail to make it a shorter wheelbase and better tail.  They also said the board is not as short as the specs say it is, but if you don't want to have to modify it, I would probably say it is not worth it.
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Yeah, I'm not about to buy a deck to then have to drill it to make it skateable. I'm just gonna pass. I was just curious to know if anyone actually liked skating it, because to me these dimensions seem borderline blasphemous.
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If you want to skate a palace that badly I think the 8.25 and 8.5 shapes are more normal dims. Idk why the 8.38 is so odd compared to the others

I think they have 2 8.25 shapes- one is a Puig often and has a 14.5. I think after that the shapes get even longer WB. I've always wondered about it too but they seem to sell well so people can't absolutely hate them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doublesteveburger on April 06, 2023, 07:10:24 AM
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does converse make a regular chuck 70 and a chuck 70 skate? just like how they have regular converse and cons CTS?

i've had two seperate pairs of chuck 70's and i don't know how mf bobby dekyzer can do what he does with these fucking dumbass shoes (that look great still tho)
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He looks very great and it’s almost annoying.
I got a pair of 70s last year for possibly this very reason, and loved them walking around, shit I even wore them roofing. First kickflip I was like ‘oh fuck no’…
Just hurt.
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My friend skates in knock off cheap Chuck Taylors and she does drops and stuff. I don't know how her feet hold up.
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I’m gonna guess and say that your friend isn’t a husky man, in his 40s.
And they are undoubtedly tougher than I (not much of an achievement, but worth noting).
Youth, relative, plays a big factor in my opinion, as far as the foot pain threshold goes. I’ve seen plenty of old fucks skating in converse, flimsy vans, the like, but few were doing tricks that pop.


I did get more used to the 70s and ended up
Skating them for a little bit and would recommend them, with the obvious caveat that they are not orthopedic, and are possibly unhealthy.
But. They look fantastic.

my buddy swears by them too but also said it's important to replace the sole

i've had both a chuck 70 hi and the low and both times they've felt so stiff and awkward when skating, great as just chillers tho

it IS a tougher canvas though i'll give them that, they're a canvas tank
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: chris. on April 06, 2023, 10:17:13 AM
I had no idea about Palace wheelbases, very interesting. I can go up and down in width but I want to live in the 14.75” zone.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 06, 2023, 10:23:35 AM
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I have a set of bearings that I’ve been using for 4 months and they were pretty fast for most of that time but they are starting to slow down a bit. They sound good, free spin well, and aren’t dirty. Will cleaning them make a difference? Maybe just add a little oil? Or is it time for a new set? I’ve always been hard on bearings for whatever reason and usually would have cleaned bearings twice in this amount of time, but haven’t touched this set just in case maybe I was overdoing the maintenance in the past.
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Depends how much you spent on them and how much time you want to spend cleaning.

Lazy like me - oil once, ride, and if they still suck just replace them with whatever is under $20 or on sale
Hardworking unlike me - clean them with alcohol, oil, and if they still suck just replace them with Bones Swiss
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This is pretty much what I was thinking. They were about $35
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If you're spending 35 bucks on bearings that you have to replace you might as well spend an extra 25 to 30 on swiss and just clean them every few months.

I put a drop of oil in without cleaning just to see if they were just a little dry and immediately could hear the grit inside. Once cleaned and re-oiled they’re as good as new. Just goes to show that a free-spin doesn’t mean shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 06, 2023, 10:29:36 AM
Any way to buy stock Indy bushings without buying a set of trucks?  After market bushings (sold by Indy) are opaque compared to the semi-translucent bushings that come with the truck.  I’ve noticed that they turn differently

I’ve noticed that for sure. Some local shops might have a stash of stock bushings that people have left behind when buying new Indy’s and immediately putting aftermarkets in. If not DLX Supercush 90a will feel the same if not closer and extra points for being the stock “clear orange “ color of your Indys.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on April 06, 2023, 02:40:40 PM
Anyone who’s skated Air Force 1’s chime in on their experience. I always remember welsh in the white mids killing it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on April 06, 2023, 05:04:26 PM
Anyone who’s skated Air Force 1’s chime in on their experience. I always remember welsh in the white mids killing it.

I used to skate my chiller shoes AF-1s and they were legit. I wasn't knowledgeable about shoes back then, swapping between Ipath Cats and TNT 1s, but the AF-1s felt good to skate.

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What's a good hollow replacement king pin for thunder trucks? The ones they come with are wildly short. I'd like to loosen my board up even more but the hardware literally unscrews itself!
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Replacing kingpins is difficult and painful.

Using low head bushings or low top bushings are a much better option so you still get the kingpin clearance, the kingpin nut nicely on and enough turn.

Two options, either cut down the top bushing - usually cut a mm or two at most off the bottom of the bushing so it sits lower and you can still have the loose feeling, with the nut securely on, etc.

Venture have the new "loose truck conversion kit" of which people have taken and just used the top bushing, but it would still be easy to put those bushings in any truck.

I can also send you links to the "how to cut your bushings down" as well if you like.

It really does make a difference.


This post in the set up thread, with another person explaining how it works too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3990471#msg3990471


Adding this here anyway:


The Venture "loose trucks conversion" kit has a low top bushing, so you can have the kingpin nut down a lot more and still have way more turn to the trucks, which is the idea behind the product / kit.  Indy and other brands have had this in the past, of which I bought a lot so I would never run out, but overall the use of low top bushings seems to have faded out with fewer low trucks on the market nowdays.

We used to cut down our top bushings (and still do in some cases) to give more clearance and or more turn and I definitely find the low heads on bushings a lot easier to use when trucks get well worn or I need a lower kingpin head.

For reference:

https://venturetrucks.net/

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/12-ve-sp23-d1-polished.jpg)
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I actually just take off the top bushing and it's worked great for me for years (I skate indys). I've seen other people do it to with other brands. I know Daewon does it. Frank Gerwer skates Thunders and does the low head bushings

Do you screw the nut down all the way to the hanger or just leave it loose with a gap between the nut and hanger?

I've been skating the same set of stock Indy bushings across two sets of trucks rather than trying to break in new ones... But yesterday, the top bushing in my R truck finally disintegrated. Feels pretty sweet to skate but it's too lose to pop on.

I'm not sure what i'm going to do here
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 06, 2023, 05:29:22 PM
Anyone who’s skated Air Force 1’s chime in on their experience. I always remember welsh in the white mids killing it.

Benson, on here, maybe skated them.
Bobby Puleo skated them now (pretty much all the endorsement I need to want to skate them).
Cyrus did one of the best kickflips of all times in them, maybe in like 2017 or some shit…
And Gino had some clips. The fuckin nollie heel in 411 roomies was/is the shit
Anywaaaaaays…
In my experience, I have a tough time with them. I straight up miss the board attempting kickflips. It’s wild. They also rip, quickly, right at the toe seam (glue would help).
Air Forces are so weird for me, because they are really comfortable, but then I’m always trying to walk funny or whatever to not fry them, and then that’s uncomfortable. Even tho they’ve been around for ever, it’s kind of a youthful shoe (I know I know so and so has been in them for the last 40 years or whatever), and me, looking like a dad, but wearing some af1s, increases my self consciousness.

Real ones can skate em, I struggle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 06, 2023, 06:16:52 PM
They always seemed way to thick……just get some dunks…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on April 06, 2023, 07:19:47 PM
Apologies if this has already been discussed previously, but since we’re on the topic of Nikes: how do we feel about the Court Vision in a skate context?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 06, 2023, 09:00:23 PM
What's a good hollow replacement king pin for thunder trucks? The ones they come with are wildly short. I'd like to loosen my board up even more but the hardware literally unscrews itself!


Were you just meaning the kingpin nut keeps coming off?  Can you just replace the kingpin nut first, but was there something else with your setup that was not working?

Even just leaving off the bottom washer on the bushings helps to loosen up trucks a whole lot without having to buy or cut anything or do much else and is super easy to try.




I actually just take off the top bushing and it's worked great for me for years (I skate indys). I've seen other people do it to with other brands. I know Daewon does it. Frank Gerwer skates Thunders and does the low head bushings


There are a couple of guys I know who can never seem to get their trucks right (always want them looser), but they often take off the metal washers more so than just go without a bushing entirely, which works and keeps things where they should be.

Running trucks without a top bushing might work for some, but that sort of setup comes with its own issues and sounds like something is just too loose to be good when messing around with that when we tried it.

Curious to see pics of the truck if you have any.





I've been skating the same set of stock Indy bushings across two sets of trucks rather than trying to break in new ones... But yesterday, the top bushing in my R truck finally disintegrated. Feels pretty sweet to skate but it's too lose to pop on.

I'm not sure what i'm going to do here


Depending on how you like your trucks, you can always put just the spare top bushing in the front, then the old bushing on the rear truck so it is not so much of a change right up.

I have come back to the stock Indy bushings with a new view of them in recent years.  Sure they used to be terrible back in the day, but now they seem really good and usually feel pretty good after one or two mellow sessions.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on April 06, 2023, 10:51:51 PM
Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 06, 2023, 11:06:06 PM
Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?

I usually just use the side of my axles. Get the bearing in on the tip and pry it out in an angle. There probably is a better alternative but it seems to work for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mean salto on April 06, 2023, 11:23:07 PM
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Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?
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I usually just use the side of my axles. Get the bearing in on the tip and pry it out in an angle. There probably is a better alternative but it seems to work for me.
My trick is put the wheel on the floor with your heels on either side and get the biggest Allen key that will fit into the bearing and just lever it out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 07, 2023, 01:31:05 AM
Have PS boards gone up in price worldwide or is this solely an EU/UK thing? In the last year or so I'd noticed certain brands prices were going up pretty quick into the £70/80 mark (from the usually £65 point American brands would retail for), just checked again and FA/GX boards are up even higher - I also just remembered the shop is running 20% off for 20 years in business, which makes the actual pricing £120.

(https://i.imgur.com/U3B7KXn.png)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 02:36:39 AM
Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?


Some bearings really get stuck in there, especially if it has been a while or they wheels are older.

I found that if I can move the bearing a little sideways, then drip some lube or something in the gap, lever it back the other way and do the same to the other side if the first drop doesn't help a whole lot and they often slip right out after a couple more left and right motions.

Using the truck axle is often easiest, but holding it down and prying with a screwdriver in a moderate size works well enough too, especially if you have just dripped lube or something in there.


Bones has a bearing puller tool, but it will still not come out easily if the bearing is solidly stuck in there.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1902/1655/products/bones-bearing-puller-tool-skate_600x.jpg)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 02:41:23 AM
Have PS boards gone up in price worldwide or is this solely an EU/UK thing? In the last year or so I'd noticed certain brands prices were going up pretty quick into the £70/80 mark (from the usually £65 point American brands would retail for), just checked again and FA/GX boards are up even higher - I also just remembered the shop is running 20% off for 20 years in business, which makes the actual pricing £120.



I feel like a lot of board brands have gone up a whole lot, some more than others, but I also think it has a lot to do with the distribution companies, as some distros have had to up prices due to various things, least of all production costs going up, but also a lot to do with shipping costs, which for some products from some countries to others, especially USA to other areas of the world, those shipping containers have almost doubled in price, so everything has gone up a bit more each step which then means that the shop will also have to double the increases.

Even just $1 per board at the start of the chain, could mean that board could be up $20 or $30 at the retail end.




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Post by: BALARGUE on April 07, 2023, 05:03:39 AM
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Have PS boards gone up in price worldwide or is this solely an EU/UK thing? In the last year or so I'd noticed certain brands prices were going up pretty quick into the £70/80 mark (from the usually £65 point American brands would retail for), just checked again and FA/GX boards are up even higher - I also just remembered the shop is running 20% off for 20 years in business, which makes the actual pricing £120.

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I feel like a lot of board brands have gone up a whole lot, some more than others, but I also think it has a lot to do with the distribution companies, as some distros have had to up prices due to various things, least of all production costs going up, but also a lot to do with shipping costs, which for some products from some countries to others, especially USA to other areas of the world, those shipping containers have almost doubled in price, so everything has gone up a bit more each step which then means that the shop will also have to double the increases.

Even just $1 per board at the start of the chain, could mean that board could be up $20 or $30 at the retail end.

what Mbrimson says
BUT some brands, Baker and FA/Hockey to name a few, seem to have just decided to rise their prices for no reason (in a setup where the distro argument doesn't apply), except building hype and make people believe their products are of higher quality

Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made
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Post by: Síota on April 07, 2023, 05:32:53 AM
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Have PS boards gone up in price worldwide or is this solely an EU/UK thing? In the last year or so I'd noticed certain brands prices were going up pretty quick into the £70/80 mark (from the usually £65 point American brands would retail for), just checked again and FA/GX boards are up even higher - I also just remembered the shop is running 20% off for 20 years in business, which makes the actual pricing £120.

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I feel like a lot of board brands have gone up a whole lot, some more than others, but I also think it has a lot to do with the distribution companies, as some distros have had to up prices due to various things, least of all production costs going up, but also a lot to do with shipping costs, which for some products from some countries to others, especially USA to other areas of the world, those shipping containers have almost doubled in price, so everything has gone up a bit more each step which then means that the shop will also have to double the increases.

Even just $1 per board at the start of the chain, could mean that board could be up $20 or $30 at the retail end.
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what Mbrimson says
BUT some brands, Baker and FA/Hockey to name a few, seem to have just decided to rise their prices for no reason (in a setup where the distro argument doesn't apply), except building hype and make people believe their products are of higher quality

Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made

(https://i.ibb.co/wSRSKQQ/Screenshot-20230407-104439.png) (https://ibb.co/wSRSKQQ)

Way cheaper at Focus if your in the UK.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 07, 2023, 05:48:13 AM
these ones are from previous drops before the price increase (in France these were 80€, the last 2 or 3 drops are around 100€)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 07, 2023, 06:34:03 AM
Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?

I don’t actually use this tool, but as someone who used to pull and install bearings professionally, something like this works as I would want. Personally I just use the little bearing pull/press nub on my shitty old skate tool.

 https://a.co/d/gXio162

Removing a bearing from a skateboard wheel is always going to suck because there’s not really a great way to brace the wheel while you do the tugging. I suppose you could fabricate something pretty easily but I’m the kind of nerd who would do that and it’s too much work even for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on April 07, 2023, 06:45:09 AM
I'm still waking up but has no one recommended a bearing press? The opposite side of the press has a puller tool that works great as long as you don't have spacers which you shouldn't anyways. Seriously the tool pays itself off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 07, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Spent ten minutes of my life painfully cranking a bearing out of a wheel and pondered: What‘s a good bearing remover tool or method?

Bought one of these awhile back.  Worth it's weight in gold.  I can change full sets of bearings and wheels out in minutes, plus way better for your bearings, and probably wheels too.

https://www.amazon.com/Amphetamine-Bearing-Puller-Longboard-Skateboard/dp/B0754VFKRV
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 07, 2023, 11:07:29 AM
Bearing presses are great. If you want one that's portable and doesn't have to be mounted down, Suregrip sells one.

https://www.suregrip.com/product-p/sgb.htm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on April 07, 2023, 02:45:01 PM
I‘ve been ogling those, 60 bucks seems a bit steep but the again, thinking back to the frustrating process yesterday I might as well cop one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 07, 2023, 02:47:00 PM
I‘ve been ogling those, 60 bucks seems a bit steep but the again, thinking back to the frustrating process yesterday I might as well cop one.

For real I thought the same thing and put off buying one for years.  You change one set of wheels out with them and you'll curse all the time you spent cranking em out using the end of your trucks and pressing em in the same way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 05:45:36 PM


Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made


Interesting about the shipping containers.

I wonder if there is still a significant back log as some distros here have been waiting for shipments from China for a long time for their basic products, blank decks and grip and all that sort of stuff.

That is different to all the usual skate distros based in USA or elsewhere though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on April 07, 2023, 06:30:05 PM
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Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made
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Interesting about the shipping containers.

I wonder if there is still a significant back log as some distros here have been waiting for shipments from China for a long time for their basic products, blank decks and grip and all that sort of stuff.

That is different to all the usual skate distros based in USA or elsewhere though.

A couple thoughts:

-We know the skate industry had been artificially keeping board prices locked for a long time in spite of rising costs. Essentially, brands were eating margin because the market wouldn't "support" higher prices. Covid gave them the opportunity to raise prices finally because demand was high and supply was low. I think in the short term there will be a lot of sales because most companies and shops over-ordered with super long lead times, and now demand has cratered. HOWEVER, you can't put the genie back in the bottle and I expect boards will stay above $65-70usd once the market stabilizes.

-I can confirm that container costs from Asia are back at or near pre-covid pricing.

-I can't speak to the skate industry, but in my industry while factories are back open and working at capacity, and global shipping prices are still down, there's still a significant backlog on certain products because of really specific, minute shortages. Specifically, I know there are thousands of bicycles waiting for a specific brake model that Shimano can't produce (as an example). There could be a comparable issue somewhere in the skate supply chain, but I think it's less likely.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on April 07, 2023, 10:30:29 PM
Can you use a rub brick in the rain or would it be pointless/less effective? Kinda wanna get going on a spot but keeps raining. If it is fine to do though it should be less dusty I would imagine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on April 07, 2023, 11:05:47 PM
i would think you could, that would be nice cause it would knock the dust down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 01:23:06 AM
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Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made
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Interesting about the shipping containers.

I wonder if there is still a significant back log as some distros here have been waiting for shipments from China for a long time for their basic products, blank decks and grip and all that sort of stuff.

That is different to all the usual skate distros based in USA or elsewhere though.

someone mentionned (in a dwindle thread) that some containers weren't moving because dwindle / protec couldn't pay for customs. The money flow is bad at the moment. "Distros waiting for shipments" could mean distros don't have money to free these shipments (and they already have stacks of boards that don't move)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 01:28:14 AM
Can you use a rub brick in the rain or would it be pointless/less effective? Kinda wanna get going on a spot but keeps raining. If it is fine to do though it should be less dusty I would imagine.
you'll probably need to push harder to make it rub (it's going to be slightly lubricated by water)
It might grind less but it should still work
you might get a rusted bolt in the end though

less dust is great

Health message: be careful while dry rubbing, don't breath concrete dust / wear a mask
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 08, 2023, 02:27:04 AM
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Sidenote 1: shipping containers prices are now almost back to precovid prices
Sidenote 2: GX1000 are still made by PS but Hockey / FA are now BBS made
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Interesting about the shipping containers.

I wonder if there is still a significant back log as some distros here have been waiting for shipments from China for a long time for their basic products, blank decks and grip and all that sort of stuff.

That is different to all the usual skate distros based in USA or elsewhere though.
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someone mentionned (in a dwindle thread) that some containers weren't moving because dwindle / protec couldn't pay for customs. The money flow is bad at the moment. "Distros waiting for shipments" could mean distros don't have money to free these shipments (and they already have stacks of boards that don't move)


Ha yeah, the old "Shipping container is still yet to come in" ruse when in fact they just can't pay their bill.

I wouldn't doubt it with some of the companies, given there are so many difficulties right now, cash flow being a big one.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on April 08, 2023, 03:50:29 AM
Does anyone know the exact length and wb of 8 inch Tightbooth decks? also what concave and kicks thay have?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 04:52:08 AM
Does anyone know the exact length and wb of 8 inch Tightbooth decks? also what concave and kicks thay have?
i have some at the shop, i'll report back later

Edit: measurements taken on this one: https://shop.tightbooth.com/?pid=167846933 (https://shop.tightbooth.com/?pid=167846933)

Length: 80,1cm / 31,5"
Wheelbase: 35,5cm / a hair under 14"

Steep kicks / high concave (dwindle like)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on April 08, 2023, 12:20:00 PM
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Does anyone know the exact length and wb of 8 inch Tightbooth decks? also what concave and kicks thay have?
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i have some at the shop, i'll report back later

Edit: measurements taken on this one: https://shop.tightbooth.com/?pid=167846933 (https://shop.tightbooth.com/?pid=167846933)

Length: 80,1cm / 31,5"
Wheelbase: 35,5cm / a hair under 14"

Steep kicks / high concave (dwindle like)
Merci Beaucoup! :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doublesteveburger on April 10, 2023, 09:13:36 AM
kind of a random one but does anyone experience stick with blank/wood grain only decks? it might be obvious but is it because a graphic provides more slideability?


was so ready to fall in love with just ordering blanks but holy shit getting pitched from a slide is like... i dunno, top 5 worst types of pitches
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: toe_knee on April 10, 2023, 01:26:44 PM
kind of a random one but does anyone experience stick with blank/wood grain only decks? it might be obvious but is it because a graphic provides more slideability?


was so ready to fall in love with just ordering blanks but holy shit getting pitched from a slide is like... i dunno, top 5 worst types of pitches

NASCAR nose is the solution, throw some stickers on there and get ready to slide
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 10, 2023, 03:04:34 PM
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kind of a random one but does anyone experience stick with blank/wood grain only decks? it might be obvious but is it because a graphic provides more slideability?


was so ready to fall in love with just ordering blanks but holy shit getting pitched from a slide is like... i dunno, top 5 worst types of pitches
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NASCAR nose is the solution, throw some stickers on there and get ready to slide
a long time ago i had a doomsayers board which i decided to throw on this huge grimple stix sticker to cover the entire middle section of the board. I was hyped on how it turned out but man it was soo slick. it threw off front disasters on transition for a good while
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on April 10, 2023, 03:14:42 PM
Do different colored wheels have different properties? i know most of us don’t fuck with colorful wheels but was eying up a set of black formula 4’s and it got me wondering
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2023, 03:53:56 PM
Do different colored wheels have different properties? i know most of us don’t fuck with colorful wheels but was eying up a set of black formula 4’s and it got me wondering


Once it did - others have said different dyes cause different things to wheels from back in the day, but nowdays I think there are no differences really between them, but that still might be more brand specific than anything else.

I have had quite a few different coloured Formula Four wheels going (mostly on the loan boards, or setup on boards for others) and they still skate the same as the natural ones, so I would say at least Spitfire don't change in that regard.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on April 10, 2023, 04:10:31 PM
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Do different colored wheels have different properties? i know most of us don’t fuck with colorful wheels but was eying up a set of black formula 4’s and it got me wondering
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Once it did - others have said different dyes cause different things to wheels from back in the day, but nowdays I think there are no differences really between them, but that still might be more brand specific than anything else.

I have had quite a few different coloured Formula Four wheels going (mostly on the loan boards, or setup on boards for others) and they still skate the same as the natural ones, so I would say at least Spitfire don't change in that regard.
Can confirm regarding F4s w/ the personal anecdote that I frequently run one odd (color) wheel & they all always ride & slide the same, as well as wear evenly, regardless of their pigmentation or lack their of. 
No noticeable diff for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on April 10, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
I see that lbskate.com is selling blanks and I assume theyre clutch but does anyone know what shape they are? Cant tell from the photos on the site. Im hoping for the O shape decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
I see that lbskate.com is selling blanks and I assume theyre clutch but does anyone know what shape they are? Cant tell from the photos on the site. Im hoping for the O shape decks.


https://lbskate.com/collections/decks-1/products/blank-assorted-stain-skateboard-deck


Even when the pics are blown right up (and they are pretty good) there are no markings on either pic, but they look like they have swapped images over between top and bottom as well, same shadow and reused maybe stock pics, just to get a general stain colour more than anything else.

The stains do not look like the usual Clutch boards, maybe BBS but more like some of the unknown boards from China, so who knows, apart from someone / anyone either messaging them and getting a response or buying one to see what they are like.

Some other very random sellers on ebay a while back had almost identical images to those, for which they were saying all kinds of things about the boards - best wood on the market, same as those used by all the top brands and all that, but they turned out to be simple, decent quality but very much no name boards from China, concave very similar to but not the same as Dwindle and slightly thinner ply layers, just top and bottom stains only.

Another one that would be interesting to see what they were, or where they were from.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 11, 2023, 03:40:25 AM
I’m wanting to say PS Stix based off of the description of their shop decks on their Instagram page. Here’s the link if you want to dm:

https://instagram.com/lbskateco?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 12, 2023, 12:42:51 PM
Did Stevie Williams skate Indys late 90‘s?
The sixth sense part let’s me think that cause of the stickers on his deck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on April 12, 2023, 02:14:39 PM
So many slap heads skating HUGE boards, do y’all flip your board at all or just doing slappies all day?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 12, 2023, 03:14:58 PM
Did Stevie Williams skate Indys late 90‘s?
The sixth sense part let’s me think that cause of the stickers on his deck

Like a lot of folks in this era, he switched it up. Alot of his fit credo part is on indys. He made some comment I remember reading along the lines of ‘Indy’s got that pop, and then I learned to get the pop with ventures’ (not at all a quote, very loosely paraphrased.

So, yes, he did
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 12, 2023, 04:43:04 PM
So many slap heads skating HUGE boards, do y’all flip your board at all or just doing slappies all day?

Both
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 12, 2023, 05:03:21 PM
So many slap heads skating HUGE boards, do y’all flip your board at all or just doing slappies all day?
Read this in Ice-T’s voice: That is top secret, home boy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 12, 2023, 05:14:27 PM
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So many slap heads skating HUGE boards, do y’all flip your board at all or just doing slappies all day?
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Both

I’ll add I’m a fucking geriatric and can flip a 10.25 deck still. If you can’t there’s something wrong with you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 02:29:52 PM
Best wheels for a slick outdoor park?
Skating 99ers F4 classics for the first time and when I land, for example, a backside flip and drag the deck around the last 70 degrees it feels so strange and uncontrolled coming from 103 A stf‘s and even 99A orbs.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on April 13, 2023, 03:54:54 PM
Best wheels for a slick outdoor park?
Skating 99ers F4 classics for the first time and when I land, for example, a backside flip and drag the deck around the last 70 degrees it feels so strange and uncontrolled coming from 103 A stf‘s and even 99A orbs.

Bones SPF 81b
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on April 13, 2023, 04:17:06 PM
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Both
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I’ll add I’m a fucking geriatric and can flip a 10.25 deck still. If you can’t there’s something wrong with you.

agree 🔥🔥🔥

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on April 14, 2023, 05:16:31 AM
Does Nike sb blazers run TTS?

I'm 44,5 (11US) in last resorts, think I was 44,5(11us) in vans old schools too. 45(11,5) in the tiago New Balance
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 14, 2023, 11:44:21 AM
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Best wheels for a slick outdoor park?
Skating 99ers F4 classics for the first time and when I land, for example, a backside flip and drag the deck around the last 70 degrees it feels so strange and uncontrolled coming from 103 A stf‘s and even 99A orbs.
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Bones SPF 81b
I've heard good things about those wheels for slick parks ^
Interesting that you say the F4's feel more uncontrolled than the 103 stf's. Once F4's came out, I haven't looked back. stf's just feel plasticky and super hard to me. I think you'll eventually get used to the formula, but if your outdoor park is pretty slick. It may be worthwhile to check out the spf formula or skate less harder wheels?

Does Nike sb blazers run TTS?

I'm 44,5 (11US) in last resorts, think I was 44,5(11us) in vans old schools too. 45(11,5) in the tiago New Balance
Blazers run tts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 15, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
Assuming I have 99a 54.5 mm v5 bones stf wheels and I really want them to be 52 mm.
How long do I have to go full chad caruso in order to get them down to that? Is that even feasible?

I have so many wheels but they're all either 49 or 54+. Need some inbetween ones but there's no way I'm gonna buy even more wheels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 15, 2023, 08:18:27 PM
Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 15, 2023, 09:14:16 PM
Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.

Same set of Indy's the whole time? Could be the baseplate on that set has a sharp edge. Round it off with sandpaper, less likely to snap along the baseplate edge.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2023, 11:50:06 PM
Assuming I have 99a 54.5 mm v5 bones stf wheels and I really want them to be 52 mm.
How long do I have to go full chad caruso in order to get them down to that? Is that even feasible?

I have so many wheels but they're all either 49 or 54+. Need some inbetween ones but there's no way I'm gonna buy even more wheels


A lathe is a great way to get wheels down to whatever size you want, but almost no one has access to one.

An angle grinder is way easier to get and to use, but also very easy to mess up, but it is not hard to take wheels down with one, either riding surface or reshape the sides too.  Try on some older wheels first, just to get the hang of it - wheels on the board, board on its back, angle grinder working at an angle over the wheel, making the bearings scream but wearing away the urethane.  Don't forget to wear a mask.


As to actually skating them down, if you find the most rough concrete surface that you can really carve across and put pressure on the wheels, like an old bowl to tear around, that is maybe the best way to wear them down naturally, but it does take a while to do it.

Also finding some decent smoothish or new road on a bit of a hill you can power slide down can also take them down a mm or so but you gotta be pretty on it and go fast and slide as far as you can without having the wheels just get eaten (flatspot) by the road surface.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on April 16, 2023, 06:18:26 AM
Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.
Yes. I break boards almost exclusively on indy forged.
I didn't broke a single one on royals. But this could just be because I got more time on Indy's as on the Royals so...
But I never broke a new board in the first session on Royals, on Indy's my record is 3 boards on one day.
And yes I rounded the edge of the baseplates.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 16, 2023, 07:18:53 AM
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Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.
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Same set of Indy's the whole time? Could be the baseplate on that set has a sharp edge. Round it off with sandpaper, less likely to snap along the baseplate edge.

I think I broke one with forged, the others cast. I did round off the baseplates after the first 2. 2 were a DLX 8.38, 1 Alltimers 8.5, 1 Killing Floor 8.38, and I forget the last one. They were all last Spring-Fall so I wondered if it was something with the boards or glue. 2 broke first session, another within a week, and 4 broke on fakie tricks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 16, 2023, 08:44:11 AM
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Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.
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Same set of Indy's the whole time? Could be the baseplate on that set has a sharp edge. Round it off with sandpaper, less likely to snap along the baseplate edge.

I just setup a new deck and used my grinder wheel to buff down the sharp edges on my trucks created by nose and tail slides.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on April 16, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
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Do any of you break boards more with specific brands of tricks? I've broken 6-7 decks on Indy's and one on thunder in the last few years doing nothing different on either set.
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Same set of Indy's the whole time? Could be the baseplate on that set has a sharp edge. Round it off with sandpaper, less likely to snap along the baseplate edge.
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I just setup a new deck and used my grinder wheel to buff down the sharp edges on my trucks created by nose and tail slides.

Nose/tail slides on angle iron will wreck forged baseplates. I file the underside flat again.

I haven't broken many boards on the outside of the baseplate like that though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 16, 2023, 06:58:07 PM
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The last pic of this post = champion effort with the baseplate rounding.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Coz10k0Ni04/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 04:47:56 AM
Do you think there’s anything that works better on an 8“ deck than on an 8.25?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 17, 2023, 06:40:10 AM
Do you think there’s anything that works better on an 8“ deck than on an 8.25?

that is hardly even a different size. I would say thats just purely preference.

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Both
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I’ll add I’m a fucking geriatric and can flip a 10.25 deck still. If you can’t there’s something wrong with you.
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agree 🔥🔥🔥



Franky Villani skates 9.125" and he does insane stuff on it. Seems like he actually prefers this size to skate on which is kind of wild. I skate his board and I definintely find it harder than skating a normal sized popsicle, but not that much.



Was thinking a lot about how Ben De Gros says like "this truck pairs well with this board" but I kinda think that is also a preference thing. I see where he is coming from, he often says he likes Steeper Kicks with Higher Trucks, and Flatter Kicks with Lower Trucks. I think having the opposite would make more sense personally - but that is just how I feel. I would want steeper kicks to accomodate for having to pop so much harder on the lower trucks, and I would want flatter kicks on the higher trucks because you already have a lot of pop anyway because its so high up. I think the idea is so you dont get ghost pop as easy so thats why he lieks it the opposite way. but if you get used to it, it would have advantages.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 18, 2023, 11:30:17 AM
Any boards out now with a shape similar to the Blind FUK series?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on April 18, 2023, 12:29:19 PM
I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?

Little follow-up, went with the yoga mat. Could have used a sharper knife to cut it.
Did one for myself aswell.
(https://i.imgur.com/PtDKA0J.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2023, 04:27:13 PM
Any boards out now with a shape similar to the Blind FUK series?


They were the 9" eggy shapes, some with short 14" or so wheelbases?

Dwindle / Blind did a couple more runs of those shapes on more generic graphics, which may still be around.

That series is Impersonator so google that and quite a few come up.


Example:

https://blindskateboards.com/products/blind-sora-reaper-impersonator-r7-9-4-skateboard-deck

https://www.skateconnection.com.au/collections/blind-skateboards/products/blind-reaper-impersonator-jake-ilardi-deck-96

https://www.skateconnection.com.au/products/blind-reaper-impersonator-cody-mcentire-deck-90


Apart from that, the Egg shaped boards thread might have some more that you might like:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.2100



Hope that helps.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 18, 2023, 09:09:50 PM
What's the best way to cover up holes from rail screws aside from just slapping stickers over them?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on April 18, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
[close]

Little follow-up, went with the yoga mat. Could have used a sharper knife to cut it.
Did one for myself aswell.
(https://i.imgur.com/PtDKA0J.jpg)

Looks good!  What did you use to make it stick? My kid is almost that age
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on April 18, 2023, 10:28:42 PM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
[close]

Little follow-up, went with the yoga mat. Could have used a sharper knife to cut it.
Did one for myself aswell.
(https://i.imgur.com/PtDKA0J.jpg)
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Looks good!  What did you use to make it stick? My kid is almost that age

Just regular glue.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: toe_knee on April 19, 2023, 09:29:33 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
[close]

Little follow-up, went with the yoga mat. Could have used a sharper knife to cut it.
Did one for myself aswell.
(https://i.imgur.com/PtDKA0J.jpg)
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Looks good!  What did you use to make it stick? My kid is almost that age
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Just regular glue.

This is a good idea, my kid has already graduated to standing and stuff being as he is 10 now, but this would have saved me some heat from my Baby momma for sure, I’ve also seen that Lucas Puig has a new board company he started with lil riders in mind, they use cork grip on top though I wanna say they are called like mimmo boards or something like that, that may be another worthwhile grip alternative for kids
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 19, 2023, 09:47:53 AM
Dwindle makes little kid completes with foam grip that my 2 year old loves.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on April 19, 2023, 10:03:45 AM
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I'm thinking of griptape alternatives..
My son basically boogie boards with his skateboard, and lying down on griptape really fucks up his clothes. Not to mention the poor guys face when he trips on it.
I could just set up a board with no griptape, but knowing me I'd want to fuck around on his board sometimes. And he will eventually want to start standing up and trying tricks.
Should I just order a sheet of rubber grip, or do you guys have any ideas for alternatives?
[close]

Little follow-up, went with the yoga mat. Could have used a sharper knife to cut it.
Did one for myself aswell.
(https://i.imgur.com/PtDKA0J.jpg)
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Looks good!  What did you use to make it stick? My kid is almost that age
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Just regular glue.
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This is a good idea, my kid has already graduated to standing and stuff being as he is 10 now, but this would have saved me some heat from my Baby momma for sure, I’ve also seen that Lucas Puig has a new board company he started with lil riders in mind, they use cork grip on top though I wanna say they are called like mimmo boards or something like that, that may be another worthwhile grip alternative for kids

https://instagram.com/stories/kuusela23/3084493027320999820?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Here’s me fucking around with it.
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Post by: IUTSM on April 19, 2023, 04:00:26 PM
someone, or multiple people wanna give me an explanation about the differences between standard board shapes- ie, i really seem to like a board with more concave, steeper kicks, a more pronounced dip/wave (always just called that pop growing up) in the pocket, and a 14.5 WB.

what are the benefits of I guess flatter boards, different wheel bases, etc? or rather, what advantages do they provide? I Was just skating a board with flatter concave and flatter kicks and I hated it. threw together a heavily skated deck from last fall and my pop was vastly higher off the bat...

thank you for illuminating my ignorance
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FBC91 on April 19, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
someone, or multiple people wanna give me an explanation about the differences between standard board shapes- ie, i really seem to like a board with more concave, steeper kicks, a more pronounced dip/wave (always just called that pop growing up) in the pocket, and a 14.5 WB.

what are the benefits of I guess flatter boards, different wheel bases, etc? or rather, what advantages do they provide? I Was just skating a board with flatter concave and flatter kicks and I hated it. threw together a heavily skated deck from last fall and my pop was vastly higher off the bat...

thank you for illuminating my ignorance

Generally speaking, a flatter board takes less effort to pop, at the cost of lower height, all else being equal.  A shorter wheelbase can make scooping tricks and manuals easier.

BTW, if you like decks with full concave and steep kicks, the globe g2 decks are good.  Resin 7 construction for 45 bucks.  They are stiff, though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 19, 2023, 07:49:59 PM
Flat boards are more responsive and people like the catch.  Concaves can mess up some people’s flick.  Shorter wheel base makes the board more nimble and I think off axis tricks ie 3 flips are easier….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on April 20, 2023, 05:16:29 AM
Dwindle makes little kid completes with foam grip that my 2 year old loves.
I got my 3 and 5 year old sons both one and they love it. And the other components aren't bad like the softer wheels and tensor trucks. And honestly the bearings are decent too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: postmodernpain on April 20, 2023, 05:28:48 AM
Will degrees of steepness on the kicks become the new dimension that skaters are looking for brands to provide? I noticed Ben D busting out his digital angle finder in recent videos. I'm old and out of shape and tend to get a lot of ghost pop on a steep kick. Will skaters start demanding these dims from manufacturers as gear madness escalates? Or do most buyers care mostly about width, length, concave (and recently, wheelbase).

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 20, 2023, 06:25:47 AM
People went bananas about the FA noses and didn’t need lasers to point them in the right direction….

I can’t say your average buyer is that nutty…..I’m gonna guess about 75% of skaters don’t know what wheelbase is… it’s the 25% that won’t shut the fuck up about it…l
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 20, 2023, 06:33:15 AM
is Aesthetics: Ryde or Die vol. 1 the best skate video of the 2000s? I feel like this video really stands the test of time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2023, 06:46:36 AM
I find flatter decks tend to work better if you're not good at delayed timing. For me growing up in low trucks and flat decks then taking a break and coming back to skating and going to Indy's and modern decks tricks were more 1-2 pop-slide. For certain flip tricks it felt harder to re-learn and get consistent.

I find with Thunders or trucks around the same height any steepness works more or less. With taller or heavier trucks like Indy or Venture cast you have a higher tendency to ghost pop or rocket things with steeper decks.

It's not super straightforward tho cuz sometimes for me a shorter, steeper deck pops similar to a longer flatter one. I think it might have to do with the lever length/when my front foot tends to level out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 20, 2023, 06:51:48 AM
Will degrees of steepness on the kicks become the new dimension that skaters are looking for brands to provide? I noticed Ben D busting out his digital angle finder in recent videos. I'm old and out of shape and tend to get a lot of ghost pop on a steep kick. Will skaters start demanding these dims from manufacturers as gear madness escalates? Or do most buyers care mostly about width, length, concave (and recently, wheelbase).

A handful of nerds on Slap? Yeah, probably. The general skating population? Absolutely not.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2023, 07:17:43 AM
Should someone skate switch across the country?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on April 20, 2023, 07:19:18 AM
Should someone skate switch across the country?
Yes but you have to switch tre every 100 miles
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PrairieSkater on April 20, 2023, 07:25:03 AM
ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2023, 08:06:59 AM
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Yes but you have to switch tre every 100 miles

I wish. Switch tre and switch bs flip are just not in my future. It hurts very badly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2023, 08:08:16 AM
ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)

Looks like a Pete's Pig I tried last year.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 20, 2023, 08:47:53 AM
ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)

her own board ?

https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last (https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PrairieSkater on April 20, 2023, 09:20:06 AM
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ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)
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her own board ?

https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last (https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last)
Thanks. It looks a little rounder than those of hers on the site. I'm asking cause I've seen her skate different shapes like Beamers and Zip Zoggers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on April 20, 2023, 03:41:10 PM
None of the boards on that Mesa skate supply look nearly as wide as the one that's in the photo posted. Her board looks like a 9.6" in that photo compared to Rodrigo's likely 8.1.

I don't think UMA has dropped anything above a 9" as far as I know. Happy to be corrected, though. Could be a sample shape she's running that's bigger than the 8.5, 8.6, or 8.7
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on April 20, 2023, 07:06:00 PM
is Aesthetics: Ryde or Die vol. 1 the best skate video of the 2000s? I feel like this video really stands the test of time.

I like it's brevity and the Welsh part is untouchable, but Static 2 will be my favorite video from the era. Capturing an international scene in 1 video was really great.

Do we have a definitive ranking of griptape grittiness, on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being the grittiest? My recent deck with Mob had me thinking that was the grittiest there was.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on April 20, 2023, 07:11:35 PM
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ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)
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her own board ?

https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last (https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last)
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Thanks. It looks a little rounder than those of hers on the site. I'm asking cause I've seen her skate different shapes like Beamers and Zip Zoggers.
It looks like a Heroin symmetrical shovel.

page for reference:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Heroin_Shovel_Helmet_Deck/descpage-HRSHDK.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: French manicure on April 20, 2023, 07:12:47 PM
I probably missed it somewhere at some point (and don't really feel like making a thread) but did State Footwear go under?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PrairieSkater on April 20, 2023, 09:16:29 PM
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ID on Maité’s deck? (On the Right)(https://i.ibb.co/nf5kkRy/EE0-D4397-D447-4-ABA-B93-E-2-E16-F6-AA6-DEC.png) (https://ibb.co/nf5kkRy)
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her own board ?

https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last (https://mesaskatesupply.com/search?q=maite&options%5Bprefix%5D=last)
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Thanks. It looks a little rounder than those of hers on the site. I'm asking cause I've seen her skate different shapes like Beamers and Zip Zoggers.
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It looks like a Heroin symmetrical shovel.

page for reference:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Heroin_Shovel_Helmet_Deck/descpage-HRSHDK.html
That looks like the closest. Thanks dude. I wanted to try a new shape for the summer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 20, 2023, 09:37:02 PM
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I like it's brevity and the Welsh part is untouchable, but Static 2 will be my favorite video from the era. Capturing an international scene in 1 video was really great.

Do we have a definitive ranking of griptape grittiness, on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being the grittiest? My recent deck with Mob had me thinking that was the grittiest there was.

Excellent point on the brevity

I was a big fan of five flavors, then the aforementioned aesthetics video (I bought Indys because of Joey Peppers, and his fakie ollie switch salad? Whatever that was, probably my favorite trick in the whole shit), static 2, last of the Mohicans, and moving in traffic, all felt connected, to me. I guess I also like ‘we did it’ a fair bit. None of the skating was ‘the best’, but it was…like the flip videos are still sick, but no one o knew even wanted to skate like that, even if they could. It was just too much.
I’m way out of it on this one.
Ryde or die is excellent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on April 20, 2023, 10:56:32 PM
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I like it's brevity and the Welsh part is untouchable, but Static 2 will be my favorite video from the era. Capturing an international scene in 1 video was really great.

Do we have a definitive ranking of griptape grittiness, on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being the grittiest? My recent deck with Mob had me thinking that was the grittiest there was.
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Excellent point on the brevity

I was a big fan of five flavors, then the aforementioned aesthetics video (I bought Indys because of Joey Peppers, and his fakie ollie switch salad? Whatever that was, probably my favorite trick in the whole shit), static 2, last of the Mohicans, and moving in traffic, all felt connected, to me. I guess I also like ‘we did it’ a fair bit. None of the skating was ‘the best’, but it was…like the flip videos are still sick, but no one o knew even wanted to skate like that, even if they could. It was just too much.
I’m way out of it on this one.
Ryde or die is excellent.

Static 2 with the Philly 4 with Ricky Oyola introduced me to skateboarding in unique ways and creative approaches to unconventional obstacles. Saw an Insta post recently revisiting the curved ledge that Rich Adler BS 50-50'd for his ender, that thing looks like a water park luge slide. And seeing Asian spots in a few of Kenny Reed clips was so nice to see.

Also - John Igei, Jack Sabback, Paul Shier, Welsh, Bobby Puleo

The title "The Invisibles" was appropriate since a lot of the guys were relatively unknown and you got to see late career of legends like Reed, Oyola and Puleo before their output dropped off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 21, 2023, 01:59:39 AM
None of the boards on that Mesa skate supply look nearly as wide as the one that's in the photo posted. Her board looks like a 9.6" in that photo compared to Rodrigo's likely 8.1.

I don't think UMA has dropped anything above a 9" as far as I know. Happy to be corrected, though. Could be a sample shape she's running that's bigger than the 8.5, 8.6, or 8.7

yeah it definitely seems bigger
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 21, 2023, 08:50:38 AM
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I like it's brevity and the Welsh part is untouchable, but Static 2 will be my favorite video from the era. Capturing an international scene in 1 video was really great.

Do we have a definitive ranking of griptape grittiness, on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being the grittiest? My recent deck with Mob had me thinking that was the grittiest there was.
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Excellent point on the brevity

I was a big fan of five flavors, then the aforementioned aesthetics video (I bought Indys because of Joey Peppers, and his fakie ollie switch salad? Whatever that was, probably my favorite trick in the whole shit), static 2, last of the Mohicans, and moving in traffic, all felt connected, to me. I guess I also like ‘we did it’ a fair bit. None of the skating was ‘the best’, but it was…like the flip videos are still sick, but no one o knew even wanted to skate like that, even if they could. It was just too much.
I’m way out of it on this one.
Ryde or die is excellent.
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Static 2 with the Philly 4 with Ricky Oyola introduced me to skateboarding in unique ways and creative approaches to unconventional obstacles. Saw an Insta post recently revisiting the curved ledge that Rich Adler BS 50-50'd for his ender, that thing looks like a water park luge slide. And seeing Asian spots in a few of Kenny Reed clips was so nice to see.

Also - John Igei, Jack Sabback, Paul Shier, Welsh, Bobby Puleo

The title "The Invisibles" was appropriate since a lot of the guys were relatively unknown and you got to see late career of legends like Reed, Oyola and Puleo before their output dropped off.

lol you know whats funny is static 2 was the only video i was truly considering to be in the same league as standing the test of time. lot of great great videos like mindfield, mosaic, baker 3, fully flared, yeah right, this is skateboarding, but those 2 are like really timeless to me (static2 + aesthetics)



for the griptape discussion, i was told that Mob was 70 grit, Jessup is 80 grit, and Shake Junt is somewhere in between. a long boarder shop owner told me this... anyway for those not in the know, the lower the grit - the more abrasive.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 21, 2023, 10:31:47 AM
Mob is 60, Jessup is 80, Grizzly is 100
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 21, 2023, 11:13:23 AM
Mob is 60, Jessup is 80, Grizzly is 100

thank you for giving us the truth
grizzly is 100 though, thats wild. lol that must feel like shit when its not brand new.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on April 21, 2023, 12:49:48 PM
anyone wanna venture a guess what pepper's grit # is?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on April 21, 2023, 01:41:44 PM
anyone wanna venture a guess what pepper's grit # is?


When ever I tell someone that Pepper is like Jessup with Mob holes they say I hit it on the nail


Even in the sandpaper business one company's 80 grit is going to different from another's. For all we know they might all thank their selling us 80 grit

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 21, 2023, 03:25:31 PM
Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on April 22, 2023, 07:50:18 AM
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anyone wanna venture a guess what pepper's grit # is?
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When ever I tell someone that Pepper is like Jessup with Mob holes they say I hit it on the nail


Even in the sandpaper business one company's 80 grit is going to different from another's. For all we know they might all thank their selling us 80 grit

found a sheet of jessup & had a sheet of pepper and they do feel similar under thumb. not scientific obviously, but this makes sense

Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.

i can get behind this theory
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 22, 2023, 08:52:16 AM
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anyone wanna venture a guess what pepper's grit # is?
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When ever I tell someone that Pepper is like Jessup with Mob holes they say I hit it on the nail


Even in the sandpaper business one company's 80 grit is going to different from another's. For all we know they might all thank their selling us 80 grit
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found a sheet of jessup & had a sheet of pepper and they do feel similar under thumb. not scientific obviously, but this makes sense

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Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.
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i can get behind this theory

I’d like one step down from mob, in grit.
I am used to jessup, but these days I keep boards FOREVER. I skate boards that are 10 years old some days. And I’ve been skating in dunks. Mob is a bit much, but when I circle back to some deck that’s been under the bed for a few years, it works out a bit better
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 22, 2023, 05:37:51 PM
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When ever I tell someone that Pepper is like Jessup with Mob holes they say I hit it on the nail


Even in the sandpaper business one company's 80 grit is going to different from another's. For all we know they might all thank their selling us 80 grit
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found a sheet of jessup & had a sheet of pepper and they do feel similar under thumb. not scientific obviously, but this makes sense

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Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.
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i can get behind this theory
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I’d like one step down from mob, in grit.
I am used to jessup, but these days I keep boards FOREVER. I skate boards that are 10 years old some days. And I’ve been skating in dunks. Mob is a bit much, but when I circle back to some deck that’s been under the bed for a few years, it works out a bit better


I do think shoe choice has a lot to do with how grip tape feels as well.


Simple Vans for me and Jessup is just perfect, from new for ramp and transition, then more all rounder / street boards when older and worn in, but like you said, some boards that are so old and well worn are still great with Jessup from when I first set them up well over a decade ago, compared to some other grip which just doesn't hold up that long.  Mob also holds up just as long, but feels nicer with a slight dusting off before use, even though it is still a bit too grippy for my liking.

Mob and other more coarse grit just tear my shoes to bits, thumbs too, or anything else it touches, but I can also see how people who ride more solid soled shoes need that untouched extra grit to keep things in check.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on April 23, 2023, 04:22:22 AM
How is Pepper Grip compated to mob & jessup ultra?

I like the jessup ultra most, mob is nice too ofc but prefer ultra as it's a little bit easier on the shoes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on April 23, 2023, 05:45:46 AM
Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.

For as many skateboard manufacturers as there are, there are going to be even fewer grip tape makers, so I buy this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Firebert on April 23, 2023, 08:24:00 AM
I do think shoe choice has a lot to do with how grip tape feels as well.

Simple Vans for me and Jessup is just perfect....more solid soled shoes need that untouched extra grit to keep things in check.
100 - new balance cupsoles with mob works perfectly
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 23, 2023, 09:53:21 AM
yeah, this makes sense, my ankles just hurt thinking about doing a kick flip with mob and half cabs.....

I can just feel the board pulling back on my foot.

I'm a mob/cup guy....I like the extra grippiness and it stays grippy longer. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2023, 09:21:53 PM
Yes you three are all correct.
I especially love those new half cab new mob grip moments. The straining of lower leg ligaments, the Half flipped board jammed into the ground and/or shin. Huge fan.
Skating is tight.
If I played an instrument I might still be getting better.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Rocko on April 23, 2023, 09:55:20 PM
Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

(https://heshdawgz.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/KrkdMikeAndersonFarmBoyDeck.jpg)
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Post by: Plan9Customs on April 23, 2023, 10:22:25 PM
Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

(https://heshdawgz.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/KrkdMikeAndersonFarmBoyDeck.jpg)
Try hitting up Legend. Sacto board maker and the Gonz/Tommy shape looks fairly close:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXLQXrWJ/E699-D053-F128-4-BD3-B952-AFF043-DF8-FFF.png) (https://postimg.cc/jwzdgBZW)
He might even have Matt’s shape to make one.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on April 24, 2023, 12:04:35 AM
Not sure if that was his exact shape at the time, but DLX started making those shortly after he got on Anti Hero. I can't remember who outside of DLX was using it, but Grosso called them out in one of the Loveletters to the effect of "just because the woodshop offers my shape doesn't mean you have to use it". I had a yellow dipped Krooked board with that shape in 2013 and I think it was 8.5 at its widest. The nooner shape may be the closest currently at 9" if you can find one
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Post by: tuesday on April 24, 2023, 01:27:59 AM
Some sites let you filter for shaped decks. Here are some from skatedeluxe.com that seem similar to what you are looking for:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/poetic-collective-box-8-75-skateboard-deck-navy_p147498?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/poetic-collective-box-8-75-skateboard-deck-navy_p147498?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42)

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/powell-peralta-anderson-heron-s-egg-flight-shape-301-8-7-skateboard-deck-blue_p162252?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/powell-peralta-anderson-heron-s-egg-flight-shape-301-8-7-skateboard-deck-blue_p162252?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42)

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/creature-navarrette-3-skulls-pro-8-8-skateboard-deck-multi_p161875?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/creature-navarrette-3-skulls-pro-8-8-skateboard-deck-multi_p161875?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42)

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-sign-language-8-5-skateboard-deck-yellow_p146027?page=2&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-sign-language-8-5-skateboard-deck-yellow_p146027?page=2&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42)

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-smith-the-remnants-8-625-skateboard-deck-multi_p157205?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42 (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-smith-the-remnants-8-625-skateboard-deck-multi_p157205?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 24, 2023, 05:22:32 AM
is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on April 24, 2023, 05:24:51 AM
is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell

usually says cons on heel or tongue. wish it was a lot easier like the vans checkertab
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 24, 2023, 06:16:12 AM
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is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell
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usually says cons on heel or tongue. wish it was a lot easier like the vans checkertab

whats the vans checkertab?

I understand now - CONS is specifically the skate line of stuff. lol i just thought that was people short forming it. you can clearly see it printed in the insoles of the shoes and on the tongue of the CTAS and Jack Purcell (the two i was really interested in)

the CTAS are tricky because if you cant actually see into the shoe from the photo its harder to tell, especially if its all black. I noticed thinkempire sells both the nonskate version and the skate versions of stuff ( i think?) which is pretty annoying.


example: https://thinkempire.com/collections/men-shoes/products/converse-chuck-70-canvas-hi-black-black-shoes-unisex-co

vs

https://thinkempire.com/collections/men-shoes/products/converse-ct-as-pro-hi-shoes-unisex-co
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2023, 05:14:54 PM
Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

(https://heshdawgz.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/KrkdMikeAndersonFarmBoyDeck.jpg)


So from looking it up, that is listed as 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb board on a couple of sites, not sure if it is the same as the Barney shape, that was about those dimensions, but I think the Barney was listed as 8.48 with shorter wheelbase.  I would have to dig it out to check.

The Barney was a pretty regular shape in the line up for a long time, but I don't think I have seen one for a while, at least not since the Lance skull series boards, which had one for the Phelps / Thrasher graphic.


If you are after 8.5 x 32 or so, there are a few others out there like that, which I can find too.  Some different brands, same woodshop, others different woodshops too, so it depends on what you are after, or how wide your options, eg some people would be happy with wider, bigger, smaller, while others want almost the exact same dimensions.


Edit:

I forgot I had one on a wall, so measured it and yes it is about 8.48 to 8.5 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb.

Barney pool shape.


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/antihero-skateboards-alpha-beta-barney-skateboard-deck-8-5-p22444


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/anderson-farm-boy-barney-shape-skateboard-deck-8-5-p32714

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on April 24, 2023, 05:51:16 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the clutch popsicle blanks in the O shape?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2023, 06:18:34 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the clutch popsicle blanks in the O shape?


What size or "product number", eg O 7 = 8.25 are you after?

Even hit up Clutch directly if you can't find any other suitable option.


https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1


Ryan Gallant has a blank supply of Clutch boards, not sure what options though, but you can check with him, or even through his printing company too:

https://blankchecksupply.com/


https://www.instagram.com/rgwoods.co/

rg woods co
Product/service
Custom skateboard printing by Ryan Gallant
For current pricing and turn around time email [email protected]


LB Skate shop had some - not blanks, but they are cheap right now.  Check with them as to which boards are that shape.  Others like @rocklobster or someone had said that is what they were.


Not sure who else would have them, without having to get minimum order quantities, so if it is just for you, getting 25 or so decks might be a bit much.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on April 24, 2023, 06:21:00 PM
i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on April 25, 2023, 10:26:42 AM
I went from skating an 8.25 Girl on venture 5.6 highs w/53mm girl wheels to 8.25 FA on same trucks w/ spitfire 56mm classics. I like the squared shape and shorter tail, and it feels easier popping onto ledges however my flip tricks are not as consistent as they were on the girl. Is it the deck, increase in wheel size, or trucks that are throwing me off? I don't want to go down the madness hole and was thinking I'll get used to it eventually, I've only had 3 sessions on it so far.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2023, 10:41:29 AM
i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?

Try popping harder with feet closer to the bolts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 25, 2023, 11:13:45 AM
I went from skating an 8.25 Girl on venture 5.6 highs w/53mm girl wheels to 8.25 FA on same trucks w/ spitfire 56mm classics. I like the squared shape and shorter tail, and it feels easier popping onto ledges however my flip tricks are not as consistent as they were on the girl. Is it the deck, increase in wheel size, or trucks that are throwing me off? I don't want to go down the madness hole and was thinking I'll get used to it eventually, I've only had 3 sessions on it so far.
it's probably multiple factors but my guess would be the wheel size plus the concave/shape of the FA which is a lot different than crail shapes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on April 25, 2023, 11:18:42 AM
i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?

I don't have an answer for ya, but I can't help wonder why you are trying to make different equipment work for you? No sense forcing it...seems like madness for madness sake.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on April 25, 2023, 11:33:56 AM
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i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?
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I don't have an answer for ya, but I can't help wonder why you are trying to make different equipment work for you? No sense forcing it...seems like madness for madness sake.

Ive got em sitting around and wanna see what they can do. Im trying some different shit as far as tricks go and am curious to see how different shapes work. Some dudes i respect big time and admire their skating swear by these decks. So ima give it a go
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 03, 2023, 11:26:39 AM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 03, 2023, 11:34:22 AM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

When I plan to skate after work I usually eat lunch because I can't eat something and immediately go skate.
So dinner is after the session for me. And sometimes it is nice to get a Kebab with the boys after the session.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 03, 2023, 11:43:41 AM
Either empty stomach or immediately after eating before digestion sets in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on May 03, 2023, 11:50:49 AM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

depends on the time of the year.  during winter months, I go as soon as possible to get as much remaining daylight as possible.  this makes it easy to eat after.  during the summer, I wait for it to cool down a bit and head out around 7.  my sessions are about 2 hours typically so this gets me home as its getting too dark to skate.  this makes it easy to eat before.

its a good idea to try and have the biggest meal of the day in the morning, followed by the second biggest meal at lunch, and then a light dinner.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on May 03, 2023, 11:52:48 AM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

7:30-4 guy here. I'm usually starving by that time and work from home 3 days a week. I'll at least have a snack or protein shake if I'm skating after work. Otherwise I tend to eat after work and give myself 30 minutes to an hour to digest. I eat vegetarian, so for other diets it might be different
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 03, 2023, 11:59:01 AM
Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on May 03, 2023, 12:43:09 PM
Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.

I’ll usually do smoothie for lunch and a two egg wrap an hour/half hour before the session. Sometimes bring a protein bar in case I get hungry mid sesh. I work from home so it’s easy to cook before between tasks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 03, 2023, 01:08:56 PM
I usually skate AM before breakfast but with coffee. Generally can skate for <3hrs that way without having some kind of breakfast or snack. I find skating really doesn't require much in the way of specific fueling if its not long because you have so many gaps between physical exertion. I also caveat that with the fact that I do another sport that is somewhat aerobic and I raced bikes for a decade so I'm probably still riding off that general fitness. My ankles/feet often get sore before I get tired.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on May 03, 2023, 01:14:13 PM
Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.
I'm pretty similar, I work 8-430 and try to snag a sesh for an hour or two on the way home. I rarely eat an actual breakfast and eat lunch early, with some light snacks between lunch and close. Sometimes I'll nab some quick protein or carbs (depending on what my body feels like I'm missing) to curb any hunger and not bloat me, but I'm usually alright until dinner at ~7.

Definitely ready for a shower and an actual meal when I got done though!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disclosed on May 03, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
i work 7-5, physical labour. i need a couple hours rest before i can get back on the board, if i can get on the board at all. eat around 6 and if i go out to skate its allways after 7:30
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 03, 2023, 06:41:23 PM
7am sessions - coffee, sandwich / protein bar and banana, iced black coffee throughout the session
5pm sessions - protein bar / banana around 4pm, dinner around 8
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on May 03, 2023, 07:42:04 PM
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i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?
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Try popping harder with feet closer to the bolts.

I agree

Or, I guess I’d be less specific, and say try adjusting your foot position, stance.
When I change trucks, often, I frequently get better results, after awhile, by adjusting my popping foot, up and down the nose or tail.
I skate my best, on venture lo’s and mellow boards, but that doesn’t stop me from trying other stuff. For me, ventures work better with my foot on the tip of the tail, especially, or much closer to the tip of the nose. Blah blah. I think I’ve made myself unclear
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on May 03, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

Before dinner preferably. I don’t really get hungry or a lack of energy so easily. I try to go straight from work usually as it’s harder for me to get going after coming home especially if I’ve had a proper dinner.

I usually do 2 hours sessions, sometimes 3. The main reason I like to go straight from work before dinner is that I have trouble going to bed early enough if I exercise late. Sometimes I might skip dinner completely because sometimes after a heavy skate session I don’t feel like cooking and can be ok with something lighter that still has a decent amount of protein in it. Alpro soy yoghurts with some granola were my go to a few years back when I skated much much more and was in much better shape overall.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 03, 2023, 10:22:32 PM
Sometimes the hardest part of skating is getting there, so I’d rather go first…..if I go home, shit will come up and get me sidetracked….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 04, 2023, 04:31:55 PM
if my wheels cone inwards, does it mean that my trucks are bent? when i took the trucks off the board and the wheels off the trucks i couldn’t really tell. the wheels started coning almost immediately after i set them up, it was easily noticeable after a week, my last set of wheels before did that too but i don’t know if they coned from the start or later on because i didn’t pay attention to that then. i’m skating a warped board right now too fwiw, the nose is higher on one side and the tail is higher on the opposite side, like someone put it in the press crooked.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on May 04, 2023, 05:09:04 PM
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i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?
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Try popping harder with feet closer to the bolts.
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I agree

Or, I guess I’d be less specific, and say try adjusting your foot position, stance.
When I change trucks, often, I frequently get better results, after awhile, by adjusting my popping foot, up and down the nose or tail.
I skate my best, on venture lo’s and mellow boards, but that doesn’t stop me from trying other stuff. For me, ventures work better with my foot on the tip of the tail, especially, or much closer to the tip of the nose. Blah blah. I think I’ve made myself unclear

Ya i totally switched it up and am figuring it out. DOA faf 8.5, short WB. Ace 44 brand new, 54mm bones wheels. Its very dofferent than my loose and snappy other set up but im having a lotta fun with it and able to skate differently. Kinda rad and yes, popping foot adjustment has been critical. But im doing different shit than usual that requires a different back foot position, sooooo idk

@pizzafliptofakie

Im def not a 9-5 cat lately, but i usually dont skate after dinner. It would be like jogging after dinner or swimming. I Just get that banana, powah food, and water. Can you drink coffee in the evening? It helps me stave off hunger while skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on May 04, 2023, 10:16:03 PM
People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 04, 2023, 11:46:03 PM
if my wheels cone inwards, does it mean that my trucks are bent? when i took the trucks off the board and the wheels off the trucks i couldn’t really tell. the wheels started coning almost immediately after i set them up, it was easily noticeable after a week, my last set of wheels before did that too but i don’t know if they coned from the start or later on because i didn’t pay attention to that then. i’m skating a warped board right now too fwiw, the nose is higher on one side and the tail is higher on the opposite side, like someone put it in the press crooked.


Almost always yes.

Skating some really rough surfaces and grinding on an angle / cross locked fifty grinds on rough curbs can wear the wheel, usually back heel for backside, or back toe for frontside a whole lot, which I was amazed when I saw it and the guy told me why his wheels wear down like that, but more often than not if there is a lot more fresh wear on the inside of any wheel, it is because the axles are bending upwards.

Flip the wheels over where they are on the board and see how much that changes in a week or so.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 05, 2023, 03:15:32 AM
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if my wheels cone inwards, does it mean that my trucks are bent? when i took the trucks off the board and the wheels off the trucks i couldn’t really tell. the wheels started coning almost immediately after i set them up, it was easily noticeable after a week, my last set of wheels before did that too but i don’t know if they coned from the start or later on because i didn’t pay attention to that then. i’m skating a warped board right now too fwiw, the nose is higher on one side and the tail is higher on the opposite side, like someone put it in the press crooked.
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Almost always yes.

Skating some really rough surfaces and grinding on an angle / cross locked fifty grinds on rough curbs can wear the wheel, usually back heel for backside, or back toe for frontside a whole lot, which I was amazed when I saw it and the guy told me why his wheels wear down like that, but more often than not if there is a lot more fresh wear on the inside of any wheel, it is because the axles are bending upwards.

Flip the wheels over where they are on the board and see how much that changes in a week or so.

i keep doing that every week, and they flatten out then cone on the other side. do i have to get new trucks or is it possible to straighten them out without breaking the trucks? they have a lot of life left so i would prefer to keep skating them as long as possible.

edit: i took the hangers off (idk why i didn't think of that before) and the front truck isn't bad, but the back truck is definitely bent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 05, 2023, 05:10:39 AM
Either empty stomach or immediately after eating before digestion sets in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 05, 2023, 05:25:25 AM
How do slim accels fit?
I have 10.5 n Nike sb.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on May 05, 2023, 06:52:05 AM
People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that

in a box, silly
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on May 05, 2023, 06:56:37 AM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly

each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on May 05, 2023, 07:16:00 AM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together

I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 05, 2023, 07:22:07 AM
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i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?
[close]

Try popping harder with feet closer to the bolts.
[close]

I agree

Or, I guess I’d be less specific, and say try adjusting your foot position, stance.
When I change trucks, often, I frequently get better results, after awhile, by adjusting my popping foot, up and down the nose or tail.
I skate my best, on venture lo’s and mellow boards, but that doesn’t stop me from trying other stuff. For me, ventures work better with my foot on the tip of the tail, especially, or much closer to the tip of the nose. Blah blah. I think I’ve made myself unclear
[close]

Ya i totally switched it up and am figuring it out. DOA faf 8.5, short WB. Ace 44 brand new, 54mm bones wheels. Its very dofferent than my loose and snappy other set up but im having a lotta fun with it and able to skate differently. Kinda rad and yes, popping foot adjustment has been critical. But im doing different shit than usual that requires a different back foot position, sooooo idk

@pizzafliptofakie

Im def not a 9-5 cat lately, but i usually dont skate after dinner. It would be like jogging after dinner or swimming. I Just get that banana, powah food, and water. Can you drink coffee in the evening? It helps me stave off hunger while skating.



eh, not really. I have sleep problems as is so I try to cut my caffeine off by mid afternoon if I can help it.


Don't wanna turn this into a diet thread/make it about me but I made myself actually eat breakfast yesterday which allowed me to space out meals easier which allowed me to feel more energized when I got off work. Been trying to make some healthier decisions in general so it's nice to hear other people's routines of a similar lifestyle  ;D
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Post by: iw0 on May 05, 2023, 07:24:29 AM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
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I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc

USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc
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Post by: Richard Skidder on May 05, 2023, 04:11:51 PM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
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I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
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USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc

I ship trucks in a padded envelope, each wrapped in newspaper so they don’t bang together. www.pirateship.com is the cheapest way I’ve found for shipping heavy-ish items in the USA. Provided you have a scale and access to a printer.
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 05, 2023, 04:24:29 PM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
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I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
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USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc
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I ship trucks in a padded envelope, each wrapped in newspaper so they don’t bang together. www.pirateship.com is the cheapest way I’ve found for shipping heavy-ish items in the USA. Provided you have a scale and access to a printer.

+1 for pirate ship, super good service
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on May 05, 2023, 04:38:26 PM
Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?
I work an 8-5 office job so this one hits close to home for me! On days that I know I want to skate after work, I'll try to eat a bigger lunch and/or get a good snack in closer to the end of the workday. For snacks I try to do fruit or something heavier on the protein, like nuts or whatever. If I don't do that, I'll usually have less energy to skate. I also never eat a full meal before I go skate, I always wait to eat until after the sesh. It feels more rewarding to have dinner that way. 
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 05, 2023, 05:04:28 PM
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if my wheels cone inwards, does it mean that my trucks are bent? when i took the trucks off the board and the wheels off the trucks i couldn’t really tell. the wheels started coning almost immediately after i set them up, it was easily noticeable after a week, my last set of wheels before did that too but i don’t know if they coned from the start or later on because i didn’t pay attention to that then. i’m skating a warped board right now too fwiw, the nose is higher on one side and the tail is higher on the opposite side, like someone put it in the press crooked.
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Almost always yes.

Skating some really rough surfaces and grinding on an angle / cross locked fifty grinds on rough curbs can wear the wheel, usually back heel for backside, or back toe for frontside a whole lot, which I was amazed when I saw it and the guy told me why his wheels wear down like that, but more often than not if there is a lot more fresh wear on the inside of any wheel, it is because the axles are bending upwards.

Flip the wheels over where they are on the board and see how much that changes in a week or so.
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i keep doing that every week, and they flatten out then cone on the other side. do i have to get new trucks or is it possible to straighten them out without breaking the trucks? they have a lot of life left so i would prefer to keep skating them as long as possible.

edit: i took the hangers off (idk why i didn't think of that before) and the front truck isn't bad, but the back truck is definitely bent.


I think the most common thing is to put the axle in a vice while trucks still attached to the board, wheel off, then use force to push the deck which can straighten out the axle, from what others have said.

Previously I have taken the hanger off and used a hammer on it in a well placed location to hammer it back to straight - keeping the nut on and hitting it on the end of the hanger closest to the bent axle end, which has worked for me.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CYc40EopBQk/


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Post by: iw0 on May 05, 2023, 05:20:37 PM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
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I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
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USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc
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I ship trucks in a padded envelope, each wrapped in newspaper so they don’t bang together. www.pirateship.com is the cheapest way I’ve found for shipping heavy-ish items in the USA. Provided you have a scale and access to a printer.

yeah envelope is a very valid option, it's even a crapshoot which i get when i order online, box v bag. but personally i worry too much, so i go box route with some bubble wrap around them. it's overkill, but i can sleep at night
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Post by: planman on May 05, 2023, 07:17:41 PM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
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I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
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USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc
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I ship trucks in a padded envelope, each wrapped in newspaper so they don’t bang together. www.pirateship.com is the cheapest way I’ve found for shipping heavy-ish items in the USA. Provided you have a scale and access to a printer.
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yeah envelope is a very valid option, it's even a crapshoot which i get when i order online, box v bag. but personally i worry too much, so i go box route with some bubble wrap around them. it's overkill, but i can sleep at night
When I got a replacement set of trucks from Ace a couple years ago they were wrapped (can't remember if it was just plastic or bubble wrap), and in a padded manila envelope. That's probably the best/cheapest way to go.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on May 05, 2023, 09:44:08 PM
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People who have sold trucks online, what’s the most efficient way to ship them?  Saw in another thread someone suggested a flat rate envelope, but not sure how I’d feel if I was buying trucks and got that in the mail.  And the thread was 2 year old.

I’ve got a pair of maglight ATGs and a pair of Ace low 44s, both just a couple sessions deep, but I can’t see either of those as a regular truck for me.  Either I’m gonna sell them or put the maglight hangers on the ace low baseplates for fun, but it seems unethical to sell them after trying that
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in a box, silly
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each truck wrapped in plastic and then both trucks rubber banded together
[close]

I meant more along the lines of what do you use for shipping, flat rate, standard usps, ups, PayPal shipping, etc
[close]

USPS flatrate box (medium i think?) should fit trucks fine bagged & banded. rates can vary depending on where you are and where you are shipping to as far as UPS vs USPS etc
[close]

I ship trucks in a padded envelope, each wrapped in newspaper so they don’t bang together. www.pirateship.com is the cheapest way I’ve found for shipping heavy-ish items in the USA. Provided you have a scale and access to a printer.
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yeah envelope is a very valid option, it's even a crapshoot which i get when i order online, box v bag. but personally i worry too much, so i go box route with some bubble wrap around them. it's overkill, but i can sleep at night
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When I got a replacement set of trucks from Ace a couple years ago they were wrapped (can't remember if it was just plastic or bubble wrap), and in a padded manila envelope. That's probably the best/cheapest way to go.

I might put them up in the classifieds boards in a couple weeks.  Thanks all
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bigfoot is real on May 06, 2023, 02:03:57 AM
I really dislike the changes they made to the nike sb blazer gt low... it feels less solid/mushier, the foxing is too high and altho they last a bit longer the look is just weird on a smaller foot. Hjalte and bobby worrest seem to make it look good, but i don't like it on myself.

I've been hunting down the old model and occasionally stumble across some on sale so I've been stockpiling. Does anyone else do this? like find a model they really enjoyed and hunt down the remaining pairs to skate, but then also save these for like special occasions/ trips/ filming or what have you?

I did the same for the adidas skate adv, what a shoe that was! I used to sell my box of random silas advs or whatever and use the cash to buy skate advs after they were discontinued.

Also if anyone stumbles across size 8 us/ eu 41 old blazer lows for original retail or less in European online stores feel free to send me a link!
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Post by: fernando the skater on May 06, 2023, 03:17:20 AM

I've been hunting down the old model and occasionally stumble across some on sale so I've been stockpiling. Does anyone else do this? like find a model they really enjoyed and hunt down the remaining pairs to skate, but then also save these for like special occasions/ trips/ filming or what have you?


Nike SB Satires. They stopped making them a few years back. Have a Ebay saved search for any that pop up in good condition.

(https://i.imgur.com/NbyWHiF.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on May 06, 2023, 05:13:14 AM
sb blazer mids vs fastbreaks

how do they fit and skate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 06, 2023, 12:46:49 PM
What temperature is ok to leave the deck in the car ?
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Post by: Space Cowboy on May 06, 2023, 04:27:29 PM
What temperature is ok to leave the deck in the car ?

I find that in cold weather it docent matter because the car only gets as cold as outside, however in about 30 Celsius and above the car heats up a lot more than the temp outside and that's when the board can warp.

I have left my board in my trunk over an entire winter that got down to -40 Celsius and below with no warping, however, a board had warped after about a week in +30 Celsius weather.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 06, 2023, 05:04:25 PM
What temperature is ok to leave the deck in the car ?


The temperatures in locked cars in full sun can easily kill pets, kids and even adults, so I imagine that is not so good for the wood in skateboard decks either.

Some people say "Just don't" but I guess it depends if you are parked outside in full sun all day every day, or if you have things covered, insulated or just sitting in the back.

A friend who used to always complain about his boards delaminating had a sporty looking coupe with a big back hatch and that is where the board lived, never took it out except to skate and didn't cover it with anything.  He never listened to any of us but when he wrecked that car, sure enough his boards never warped when in a normal sedan boot.


I recommend using a board box to keep any decks or complete skateboards in if you have them in a vehicle, as it insulates them enough to stop any of the usual issues with heat and my boards are good.  That and covering anything if it is just in the back seat or visible, either a blanket or shade cloth material, more than anything prevents unwanted attention in the case of someone coming round looking in car windows and breaking in to steal anything.


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Post by: backside_frontside on May 07, 2023, 06:57:58 AM
Don’t keep your board in your car. If you’re cold, it’s cold. If you’re hot, it’s hot.

Cold temps will stiffen your bushings making it impossible to turn.
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Post by: modern life is war on May 07, 2023, 07:30:39 AM
What bearings will hold up best for slappies?
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Post by: manysnakes on May 07, 2023, 08:15:29 AM
What bearings will hold up best for slappies?

I've had nothing but good experiences with Bones Swiss. I was shredding every manner of cheap bearing and some not-so-cheap ones with slappies before I made the switch. Now I've been skating the same pair for the last 3 years with minimal maintenance and no issues.
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Post by: Mr. Pickles on May 07, 2023, 11:23:39 AM
Does Vans make normal, non-skateline Half Cabs anymore? These "skate" ones don't work for my feet; the OG's were fine. Even the '92's are fine, just harder to find than the skates. 
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Post by: modern life is war on May 07, 2023, 02:43:16 PM
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I've had nothing but good experiences with Bones Swiss. I was shredding every manner of cheap bearing and some not-so-cheap ones with slappies before I made the switch. Now I've been skating the same pair for the last 3 years with minimal maintenance and no issues.

Swiss it is then. You get what you pay for I guess.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on May 07, 2023, 02:52:48 PM
Does Vans make normal, non-skateline Half Cabs anymore? These "skate" ones don't work for my feet; the OG's were fine. Even the '92's are fine, just harder to find than the skates.


good question, they might be phasing them out cause i don't really see them too much anymore. i know i seen them here n there last year. they still make the anehiem factory ones which are none skate but they cost alot more
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 07, 2023, 05:12:29 PM
Does Vans make normal, non-skateline Half Cabs anymore? These "skate" ones don't work for my feet; the OG's were fine. Even the '92's are fine, just harder to find than the skates.


As far as I know yes.  The weird thing with the classic Half Cab is they bring them in, RRP is now $140 or so in Australia, mostly they sit around and then they clear them out, usually at really good sale prices.  Then a while later, they are back again, same high RRP and it goes through the same process more or less once again.

They had done quite a few colourways of the classic ones, but I think the only colour I see now is the black white.  Previously there had been all white, navy white, black black, tan white, etc.

That is only the classic Half Cabs too, not the 92, Pro, Skate or any other line.



https://www.vans.com.au/half-cab-vn-0dz3blk-blk.html#93=3552

Limited sizes here but they are now $149.99 which seems a bit ridiculous for a classic shoe.


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Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 07, 2023, 07:32:39 PM
For those with ceramic bearings, do you find small black balls/debris in the bearings everytime you take off the shields for maintenance? I assume it's leftover from the ceramic balls polishing the races, but I could be wrong. I'm using Bones Super Reds Ceramics.
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Post by: moonordie on May 08, 2023, 06:19:55 AM
Anybody tried that Malto twin paddle or something like that shape?
For what I remember is to be a supposed hybrid between nose and tail.
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Post by: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:53:00 AM
What temperature is ok to leave the deck in the car ?

I typically bring it inside if its colder than 0C (32 F) or warmer than 30C (86 F). Have never had any issues between these temperatures.

I have done much hotter and colder and also had bad times :)

I have had bones swiss bearings rust leaving it in the trunk all winter, amongst snow skates and shovels and shit. but I cleaned them and I am still using them years later and spinning great.

I found this year if I just kept my skateboard in the main area of the car, not in the trunk, I was able to keep it pretty nicely through the entire winter. I brought it inside every night.
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 08, 2023, 07:44:09 AM


I've been hunting down the old model and occasionally stumble across some on sale so I've been stockpiling. Does anyone else do this? like find a model they really enjoyed and hunt down the remaining pairs to skate, but then also save these for like special occasions/ trips/ filming or what have you?

 



Sorta different cuz I don't actually skate them but when Vans transitioned to their Skate line I went on the prowl to make sure I had some of the Slip On Pros around as chillers. Overall I think the new ones are an improvement and hold their form better but I actually like how soft and flimsy the slip ons were while having just a bit more support than the Classic slips.
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Post by: Tom Pearl on May 08, 2023, 11:55:46 AM
can somebody show me the top of a primitive board?

im thinking of getting a mystery box but i'd like to see what the shape looks like first
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Post by: doublesteveburger on May 08, 2023, 02:40:28 PM
Don’t keep your board in your car. If you’re cold, it’s cold. If you’re hot, it’s hot.

Cold temps will stiffen your bushings making it impossible to turn.


what if i leave the A/C or heater on with some good tunes playing while I get back?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on May 08, 2023, 03:12:14 PM
Does anyone know what the Baker B2 wheelbases actually are? I've seen different numbers for each size. I am interested in 8.25 and 8.38.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 08, 2023, 04:34:08 PM
can somebody show me the top of a primitive board?

im thinking of getting a mystery box but i'd like to see what the shape looks like first


There are quite a few in the Setup thread, just use search in the top right when here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.0


Also something like this, which has a good top pic:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/product/Primitive-Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck-672888


They actually have really good pics of all sized boards, graphic, top and side concave views:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/?q=primitive%20deck


Whatever size or shape you want, I think you could find it there anyway.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 08, 2023, 04:37:55 PM
Does anyone know what the Baker B2 wheelbases actually are? I've seen different numbers for each size. I am interested in 8.25 and 8.38.


I have the 8.5 and 8.38 stamped B2 boards.

The 8.38 I have is more like 8.25 anyway - definitely not 8.38 and just a hair over other 8.25 boards when checked, and is 14.375 wb on 32.2 or so long board, so longer than usual kicks, slightly more full but not square, pretty much same concave as usual BBS wood, although others have said that the concave is steeper on their boards.

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Post by: IUTSM on May 08, 2023, 05:35:01 PM
Im enjoying this DOA flat as fuck.

What are some flat molds out there?
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Post by: manysnakes on May 08, 2023, 06:35:41 PM
Im enjoying this DOA flat as fuck.

What are some flat molds out there?

The flattest regularly available production decks I’ve found were the Baker mellow concave. They’re not flat as fuck, but they’re also a deck you can walk into a shop right now and buy.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on May 08, 2023, 09:27:41 PM
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I have the 8.5 and 8.38 stamped B2 boards.

The 8.38 I have is more like 8.25 anyway - definitely not 8.38 and just a hair over other 8.25 boards when checked, and is 14.375 wb on 32.2 or so long board, so longer than usual kicks, slightly more full but not square, pretty much same concave as usual BBS wood, although others have said that the concave is steeper on their boards.

Would love a comparison to the DLX 8.25 or BBS generic 8.38 if you have either. On paper it looks really similar to the BBS and if it's close enough I'd add it to my shape rotation.
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Post by: tom on May 08, 2023, 10:50:13 PM
For those with ceramic bearings, do you find small black balls/debris in the bearings everytime you take off the shields for maintenance? I assume it's leftover from the ceramic balls polishing the races, but I could be wrong. I'm using Bones Super Reds Ceramics.
I’ve had Bones Swiss ceramics and Quantum Fusions, and both of them leave black dirt balls when I soaked them in acetone. They seem like dirt magnets that require more maintenance. The Swiss ceramics never seemed to be quite as fast after cleaning, and the Quantum’s need to be cleaned every few weeks to stay fast
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Post by: Tom Pearl on May 09, 2023, 05:53:25 AM
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can somebody show me the top of a primitive board?

im thinking of getting a mystery box but i'd like to see what the shape looks like first
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There are quite a few in the Setup thread, just use search in the top right when here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.0


Also something like this, which has a good top pic:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/product/Primitive-Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck-672888


They actually have really good pics of all sized boards, graphic, top and side concave views:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/?q=primitive%20deck


Whatever size or shape you want, I think you could find it there anyway.


thanks homie
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Post by: IpathCats on May 09, 2023, 06:31:58 AM
sb blazer mids vs fastbreaks

how do they fit and skate?

Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.
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Post by: DERBY on May 09, 2023, 07:18:12 AM
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how do they fit and skate?
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Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.

thanks for the breakdown dawg. going with the fastbreaks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on May 09, 2023, 08:36:08 AM
Im enjoying this DOA flat as fuck.

What are some flat molds out there?

I am skating a 5Boro and that is quite mellow, they are pressed at South Central.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on May 09, 2023, 10:08:42 AM
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sb blazer mids vs fastbreaks

how do they fit and skate?
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Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.
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thanks for the breakdown dawg. going with the fastbreaks!

No prob! dont forget to superglue, or buy the all suede ones.

really wish they would fix that nylon shit, i'd probably skate these exclusively if they did.

or if they made these new as-1's in a mid/high top.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on May 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM
Anybody tried that Malto twin paddle or something like that shape?
For what I remember is to be a supposed hybrid between nose and tail.

I'm riding the 8.5 verison of this board currently. G096 for the crailtap shape.

Running it with 149 Mindys and some random 52mm 99A chocolate wheels

I really like the tail shape - nice and wide, but not huge, and the kick steepness is on the mellower side. Personally, I've really been digging it. The last ~4 Crailtap boards I've had have been really solid, stay crisp for quite a while.

If you feel like you might enjoy that shape, i would totally go for it. The symmetrical popsicle is a super fun switch up from my prior main set-up, a tapered Black Label egg with AF1 66's.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 09, 2023, 12:03:48 PM
What's frickin wrong with me?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on May 09, 2023, 01:11:34 PM
Not a question but just had to let it out-

Crockett 2s are so nice but why couldn’t they just do the cupsole through the front of the shoe as well? It’s so thin in the toes but so nice in the heel. I landed a kickflip and my back big toe landed right on the concave and liek shocked my toe lol.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 09, 2023, 01:17:39 PM
Ya there is a lot about that shoe that doesn't make sense. The High is way more flimsy than the Low since the upper is so thin. Whatever they did made the shoe super hot in the toebox during the Summer and combined gives me big toe rawness. The shoe should be full cup the entire way around since it wouldn't really make it feel any stiffer than the low.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on May 09, 2023, 05:24:25 PM
anybody know who makes the blank decks that long beach skate co sells?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on May 09, 2023, 07:26:36 PM
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how do they fit and skate?
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Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.
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thanks for the breakdown dawg. going with the fastbreaks!
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No prob! dont forget to superglue, or buy the all suede ones.

really wish they would fix that nylon shit, i'd probably skate these exclusively if they did.

or if they made these new as-1's in a mid/high top.

where would u suggest to glue?

got the emerald ones and theyre unfortunately nylon. wished they pumped out the suede ones more often.

ou mid as1s sound promising
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on May 09, 2023, 09:04:51 PM
i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on May 10, 2023, 05:48:27 AM
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Anybody tried that Malto twin paddle or something like that shape?
For what I remember is to be a supposed hybrid between nose and tail.
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I'm riding the 8.5 verison of this board currently. G096 for the crailtap shape.

Running it with 149 Mindys and some random 52mm 99A chocolate wheels

I really like the tail shape - nice and wide, but not huge, and the kick steepness is on the mellower side. Personally, I've really been digging it. The last ~4 Crailtap boards I've had have been really solid, stay crisp for quite a while.

If you feel like you might enjoy that shape, i would totally go for it. The symmetrical popsicle is a super fun switch up from my prior main set-up, a tapered Black Label egg with AF1 66's.
G069 is the light. Shape works perfect for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MxsDx on May 10, 2023, 09:32:43 AM
I recently fractured my hand skating and will be out for a short while. How many of you would abandon the injury tainted deck as opposed to being rational and accepting that the deck had nothing to do with it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on May 10, 2023, 10:06:37 AM
I recently fractured my hand skating and will be out for a short while. How many of you would abandon the injury tainted deck as opposed to being rational and accepting that the deck had nothing to do with it?
Suppose it depends on how much I enjoy skating that board. Do I have another freshie that I would rather ride? Or is this board new enough to be viable for a bit longer?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on May 10, 2023, 10:11:24 AM
i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?

circles.

I went smooth for the longest time, but ACE and indy bushing diagrams have pictured the side with the circles facing down (towards your board) as being the correct way to position the bushing. will post the pic if i can find it

edit: here its. hard to tell, but look at the second packaging pic, says "sharp side" down

https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/copy-of-ace-hard-bushings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: B-Rad is the Raddest on May 10, 2023, 12:28:32 PM
anyone know if the superstar adv feels the same as the one from 2016-2018 with the adiprene insole?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on May 10, 2023, 02:21:30 PM
I recently fractured my hand skating and will be out for a short while. How many of you would abandon the injury tainted deck as opposed to being rational and accepting that the deck had nothing to do with it?

I’d get rid of it especially if I had any sort of feeling that the board itself contributed in any way to the injury. I broke my leg some years ago on a fairly new deck that I didn’t really like much. Got rid of it. The shoes I had on when I broke my leg I kept but then was weirded out by having them on later on when I got back on board. Had to get rid of them even though I like to skate my stuff until it’s done. I just couldn’t shake the bad vibes and I didn’t want it affecting my sessions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mr. Pickles on May 10, 2023, 03:18:40 PM
I recently fractured my hand skating and will be out for a short while. How many of you would abandon the injury tainted deck as opposed to being rational and accepting that the deck had nothing to do with it?
Deck? No, that whole set up is cursed and going in the dumpster.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on May 10, 2023, 05:03:08 PM
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Deck? No, that whole set up is cursed and going in the dumpster.

I’d rather have a familiar setup coming back from a break
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 10, 2023, 06:28:36 PM
What type of trucks do y'all think work best with streep kicks? For example a habitat twin nose shape?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on May 10, 2023, 08:12:22 PM
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I recently fractured my hand skating and will be out for a short while. How many of you would abandon the injury tainted deck as opposed to being rational and accepting that the deck had nothing to do with it?
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Deck? No, that whole set up is cursed and going in the dumpster.
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I’d rather have a familiar setup coming back from a break

Yeah thats what I did with my last injury, deck was just broken in and my fav shape so wanted to come back to what I already know. But the shoes were already trashed and makes me think that contributed so I did ditch those.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on May 10, 2023, 09:23:33 PM
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i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?
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circles.

I went smooth for the longest time, but ACE and indy bushing diagrams have pictured the side with the circles facing down (towards your board) as being the correct way to position the bushing. will post the pic if i can find it

edit: here its. hard to tell, but look at the second packaging pic, says "sharp side" down

https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/copy-of-ace-hard-bushings


i've always put the circles in the hanger, round edges in the washers. idk if it's right but that's how i do it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Skrotum on May 10, 2023, 10:57:08 PM
I wish converse had a sturdy heel, the toecap I could take or leave too maybe I should try the spanky highs?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 11, 2023, 12:38:02 AM
Mud on Griptape ; what are you doing?

Water + brush only?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fernando the skater on May 11, 2023, 02:11:19 AM
Mud on Griptape ; what are you doing?

Water + brush only?

Water and wire wool that has soap in it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 11, 2023, 04:14:07 AM
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i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?
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circles.

I went smooth for the longest time, but ACE and indy bushing diagrams have pictured the side with the circles facing down (towards your board) as being the correct way to position the bushing. will post the pic if i can find it

edit: here its. hard to tell, but look at the second packaging pic, says "sharp side" down

https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/copy-of-ace-hard-bushings
[close]


i've always put the circles in the hanger, round edges in the washers. idk if it's right but that's how i do it.
Yeah that's how I do it too. The top bushing has the circles on the hanger so why wouldn't the bottom bushing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on May 11, 2023, 05:06:02 AM
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i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?
[close]

circles.

I went smooth for the longest time, but ACE and indy bushing diagrams have pictured the side with the circles facing down (towards your board) as being the correct way to position the bushing. will post the pic if i can find it

edit: here its. hard to tell, but look at the second packaging pic, says "sharp side" down

https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/copy-of-ace-hard-bushings
[close]


i've always put the circles in the hanger, round edges in the washers. idk if it's right but that's how i do it.
[close]
Yeah that's how I do it too. The top bushing has the circles on the hanger so why wouldn't the bottom bushing?

Well the manufacturer suggests otherwise.

If i had to guess, it would probably have to do with the way the truck actuates and when/where you want the bushings to grip rather than slip.

total guess though, i really dont know why. I just follow what the manufacturer says.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on May 11, 2023, 07:48:02 AM
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sb blazer mids vs fastbreaks

how do they fit and skate?
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Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.
[close]

thanks for the breakdown dawg. going with the fastbreaks!
[close]

No prob! dont forget to superglue, or buy the all suede ones.

really wish they would fix that nylon shit, i'd probably skate these exclusively if they did.

or if they made these new as-1's in a mid/high top.
[close]

where would u suggest to glue?

got the emerald ones and theyre unfortunately nylon. wished they pumped out the suede ones more often.

ou mid as1s sound promising

stitches that you would normally rip

and the "ollie hole" area, the widest part of the outside of your foot, where your pinky toe meet the foot.

i got this medium thickness superglue off amazon that soaks into most materials well and basically turns it into plastic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 11, 2023, 11:46:03 AM
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i’m prolly trippin out but for ace bottom bushings, which side faces down? the side with the circles or smooth side?
[close]

circles.

I went smooth for the longest time, but ACE and indy bushing diagrams have pictured the side with the circles facing down (towards your board) as being the correct way to position the bushing. will post the pic if i can find it

edit: here its. hard to tell, but look at the second packaging pic, says "sharp side" down

https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/copy-of-ace-hard-bushings
[close]


i've always put the circles in the hanger, round edges in the washers. idk if it's right but that's how i do it.
[close]
Yeah that's how I do it too. The top bushing has the circles on the hanger so why wouldn't the bottom bushing?
[close]

Well the manufacturer suggests otherwise.

If i had to guess, it would probably have to do with the way the truck actuates and when/where you want the bushings to grip rather than slip.

total guess though, i really dont know why. I just follow what the manufacturer says.
Yeah I don't remember who I heard it from but I've been doing it that way every time lol. Maybe I'll start doing it the way it says on the ace package.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 11, 2023, 09:59:30 PM
What type of trucks do y'all think work best with streep kicks? For example a habitat twin nose shape?

Venture is always the answer. Get on board with the team. You won't regret it for more than a week.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 11, 2023, 10:04:23 PM
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sb blazer mids vs fastbreaks

how do they fit and skate?
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Blazers are more narrow and snug fitting, better boardfeel/worse impact protection (vulc). They feel pretty sturdy and substantial at first, but once you break them in they are flimsy and bag out more easily than the fastbreaks.

Fastbreaks are wider and slightly longer (i still go TTS because i hate cramping my toes, but many people say they go down a half size). A chunkier, more substantial shoe with a thicker cupsole.

As with most cupsoles, the flick changes over time. In comparison, the blazer are a bit more consistent in that regard.

Biggest issue with the fastbreaks is that most colorways use nylon in the area that i destroy the quickest on a skate shoe (ollie hole on the outside of your pinky toe). So either have some super glue ready or buy an all suede pair.

In general i see way more people in blazers, but i think thats probably due to availability and vulcs still being generally preferred (could be wrong about that)

personally i prefer the fastbreak, but im a cupsole kinda guy.
[close]

thanks for the breakdown dawg. going with the fastbreaks!
[close]

No prob! dont forget to superglue, or buy the all suede ones.

really wish they would fix that nylon shit, i'd probably skate these exclusively if they did.

or if they made these new as-1's in a mid/high top.
[close]

where would u suggest to glue?

got the emerald ones and theyre unfortunately nylon. wished they pumped out the suede ones more often.

ou mid as1s sound promising

Don't put glue on the nylon. That shit is much more durable and better looking natural.

Ive had 2 pairs maybe 3 and putting super glue on the nylon accelerates the ripping. It also looks trash can AF

I love that shoe. I skate them untied and full slack laced. Never had one fall off. Killer shoe imo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 12, 2023, 07:09:33 AM
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Venture is always the answer. Get on board with the team. You won't regret it for more than a week.

Can't agree with this and hated Venture with steep or short kicks. I'd go with something lighter like a Thunder or Forged Indy personally.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 12, 2023, 07:20:50 AM
Do forged indies really make a longer wheelbase than cast thunders? Both are somwhere between +3.12 and +3.18 right? My team thunders are around +3.15
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 13, 2023, 06:50:36 AM
Do forged indies really make a longer wheelbase than cast thunders? Both are somwhere between +3.12 and +3.18 right? My team thunders are around +3.15

i found this
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks (https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks)

@Mbrimson88
I'm pretty sure there is a thread somewhere that list how much each type of trucks affects wheelbase.
Do you know where please ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 13, 2023, 07:25:13 AM
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Venture is always the answer. Get on board with the team. You won't regret it for more than a week.
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Can't agree with this and hated Venture with steep or short kicks. I'd go with something lighter like a Thunder or Forged Indy personally.

I was gonna say thunder too, I don't like steep boards so thunders would mellow things out. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on May 13, 2023, 07:48:59 AM
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 13, 2023, 08:47:39 AM
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks

That's so sick. Thank you and huuuge shoutout to freedom skateshop in vienna!

Also a big DAMN about the AF1 hollow wheelbase. Are they actually different? I feel like people on slap would know that by now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on May 13, 2023, 09:57:43 AM
where can i get shovel nose blanks at? something like a hockey or alien workshop

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 13, 2023, 10:41:02 AM
Did anyone else notice that kid Kane's band did a Tesla commercial.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 13, 2023, 10:50:45 AM
where can i get shovel nose blanks at? something like a hockey or alien workshop

Any shop that works through Eastern Skate Supply can get PS Stix blanks. Maybe your local can order it for you? You want the square shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 13, 2023, 01:12:58 PM
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That's so sick. Thank you and huuuge shoutout to freedom skateshop in vienna!

Also a big DAMN about the AF1 hollow wheelbase. Are they actually different? I feel like people on slap would know that by now

There’s a few red flags in those measurements. ^ That was the first one I spotted. I find it hard to believe that an AF1 Standard and Hollow have different geo. Same with Indy Forged Hollow and forged Titanium; only difference in those two models is the axle, and they measured a 1/4 in. wheelbase difference? I can almost guarantee that one is bogus. 4 different measurements on 5 sets of Thunders? Probably not, unless the measurements were taken across a random range of Thunder hanger sizes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on May 13, 2023, 01:17:28 PM
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That's so sick. Thank you and huuuge shoutout to freedom skateshop in vienna!

Also a big DAMN about the AF1 hollow wheelbase. Are they actually different? I feel like people on slap would know that by now
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There’s a few red flags in those measurements. ^ That was the first one I spotted. I find it hard to believe that an AF1 Standard and Hollow have different geo. Same with Indy Forged Hollow and forged Titanium; only difference in those two models is the axle, and they measured a 1/4 in. wheelbase difference? I can almost guarantee that one is bogus. 4 different measurements on 5 sets of Thunders? Probably not, unless the measurements were taken across a random range of Thunder hanger sizes?

There's probably some measurement error, but also how new/old the bushings are and how much they're cranked down can affect the wheelbase. I think moral of the story is that our perception of things matters probably just as much as some of these tiny variances
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 13, 2023, 04:55:01 PM
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i found this
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks (https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks)

@Mbrimson88
I'm pretty sure there is a thread somewhere that list how much each type of trucks affects wheelbase.
Do you know where please ?



Tagged you in it, but this one, WB on your trucks.  Often doesn't come up with only WB and not WHEELBASE word.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0



I had always thought Thunders are still longer in everything than any Indy variant.


Ace, then Indy, then Thunder, then Venture in every option of their trucks, but I can see from that list that they are very close / even on a couple of options.

Exact measurements vary, but that is from me putting those trucks on the same decks side by side for comparison.

I think the reality is people are often going to come up with different measurements with different trucks, so that is not a worry to me really.

More than anything it is the feel of the different trucks that get me, eg some feel better than others, even though I have some of everything set up on boards for people to try and see what works for them.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on May 14, 2023, 02:37:12 AM
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Do forged indies really make a longer wheelbase than cast thunders? Both are somwhere between +3.12 and +3.18 right? My team thunders are around +3.15
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i found this
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks (https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks)

@Mbrimson88
I'm pretty sure there is a thread somewhere that list how much each type of trucks affects wheelbase.
Do you know where please ?
[close]



Tagged you in it, but this one, WB on your trucks.  Often doesn't come up with only WB and not WHEELBASE word.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0



I had always thought Thunders are still longer in everything than any Indy variant.


Ace, then Indy, then Thunder, then Venture in every option of their trucks, but I can see from that list that they are very close / even on a couple of options.

Exact measurements vary, but that is from me putting those trucks on the same decks side by side for comparison.

I think the reality is people are often going to come up with different measurements with different trucks, so that is not a worry to me really.

More than anything it is the feel of the different trucks that get me, eg some feel better than others, even though I have some of everything set up on boards for people to try and see what works for them.
Fixed :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 02:49:02 AM
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i found this
https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks (https://freedomskateshop.at/en/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks)

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Fixed :)


Some others I had talked to about wheelbase in the shop were saying they thought that Freedom Skateshop list was incorrect, so it might be a funny one there.

At least giving your Wheelbase thread a refresh is good as people had been looking for it before too.


:)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on May 14, 2023, 06:58:45 AM
How's the sizing of the Memory Screen hoodies compared to say Polar (both are made in Portugal, same factory?)?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FGO925 on May 14, 2023, 12:46:55 PM
I don’t get how this happens, but I blow through bushings and pivots cups insanely quick.

Bought some riptide pivot cups which were great. Quieted some of the squeak, and felt nice. Within a couple weeks one of them is already ripped..
Same with bushings, put in some new thunder bushings and my front truck top bushing is already blowing out. I don’t ride my trucks all that loose (maybe a thread showing but mostly flush) and I’m not heavy at all at 160lbs. Super frustrating as I’ll feel the broken bushing. Makes it feel less stable and too loose. I also had an issue where the nut would keep loosening up and almost falling off, yet I would tighten the truck down where it was far far beyond finger loose.

I’ve noticed the standard cupped washer on thunders binds a lot and I have scrape marks all over the inside near the kingpin/top bolt cavity area. Maybe the cupped washer is what’s causing this? I’ll throw on some flat tops with new bushings and see how long that lasts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 14, 2023, 01:58:32 PM
long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 14, 2023, 02:25:12 PM
I don’t get how this happens, but I blow through bushings and pivots cups insanely quick.

Bought some riptide pivot cups which were great. Quieted some of the squeak, and felt nice. Within a couple weeks one of them is already ripped..
Same with bushings, put in some new thunder bushings and my front truck top bushing is already blowing out. I don’t ride my trucks all that loose (maybe a thread showing but mostly flush) and I’m not heavy at all at 160lbs. Super frustrating as I’ll feel the broken bushing. Makes it feel less stable and too loose. I also had an issue where the nut would keep loosening up and almost falling off, yet I would tighten the truck down where it was far far beyond finger loose.

I’ve noticed the standard cupped washer on thunders binds a lot and I have scrape marks all over the inside near the kingpin/top bolt cavity area. Maybe the cupped washer is what’s causing this? I’ll throw on some flat tops with new bushings and see how long that lasts.

On top this happens with Thunder and Venture especially if you do lots of slappies. It depends on how much you pinch the hanger and how loose they are. I had more issues when I rode them looser. Ventures do it way worse.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 14, 2023, 03:59:49 PM
long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
Emerica Dixon shoe has a synthetic vegan model. And the nyjah shoes are made out of some type of rubber.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 14, 2023, 04:58:04 PM
Local mall shop just got a shitload of cliché decks in. Wth is going on?
https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first (https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 06:22:53 PM
Local mall shop just got a shitload of cliché decks in. Wth is going on?
https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first (https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first)


The brand Cliche has come and gone a fair bit after being incorporated into Dwindle and they have been bringing out a few here and there over the years.  They are still owned by Dwindle, and made in DSM woodshop, so it would make sense that they would bring out generic graphics of their umbrella of brands, no pro models and just "money makers" for the corporate owners now.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 14, 2023, 10:24:10 PM
You sure they are owned by dwindle?  Why don’t they distribute them? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 11:06:02 PM
You sure they are owned by dwindle?  Why don’t they distribute them?


I think you might find more answers between this:

https://dwindle.com/home/tag/Clich%C3%A9+Skateboards

And this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clich%C3%A9_Skateboards


Cliché Skateboards was a skateboard company based in Lyon, France, and distributed by the American company Dwindle Distribution. The company was established in 1997 by French professional skateboarder Jeremie Daclin. In 2001, Cliché was purchased by the France-based Salomon Group which in 2005 became a part of Amer Sports. In 2009, US-based Dwindle Distribution purchased the company from the Salomon Group. In November 2016, Dwindle announced that they would be discontinuing the brand.



I know not to trust everything you read on the internet, but Dwindle bought the rights to Cliche and then pretty much dropped the brand when they were cutting back, but they still owned it and every now and then they would release some generic boards and graphics - the AU distro has had a few on occasion, but it has never been pushed and more just random stock.

The pics from that listing, which are really good, show the tops to be Dwindle wood for sure, so unless someone else now has them, I would say it is part of the corporate ownership just doing their thing and re releasing whatever they can that doesn't involve any royalties to anyone like pro dudes, or artists or anyone else, as they don't seem like new graphics too.

Of course I could be wrong - happy to be corrected if anyone does know anything more about the brand - but that seemed to be the case back when things went the way they did, especially with new owners of Dwindle trying to milk as much as they can from the company and any brands they have under them.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on May 14, 2023, 11:27:25 PM
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long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
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Emerica Dixon shoe has a synthetic vegan model. And the nyjah shoes are made out of some type of rubber.

yeah but the cariumas are made out of some vegan suede that is supposed to be 3 times as durable as regular suede, and i wonder if they came up with it or if it’s available for other companies to use too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 15, 2023, 05:17:46 AM
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long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
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Emerica Dixon shoe has a synthetic vegan model. And the nyjah shoes are made out of some type of rubber.
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yeah but the cariumas are made out of some vegan suede that is supposed to be 3 times as durable as regular suede, and i wonder if they came up with it or if it’s available for other companies to use too.
That I couldn't tell you. But if you can't find something similar you can try the others. They are more durable than suede and look better .
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on May 15, 2023, 05:19:28 AM
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long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
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Emerica Dixon shoe has a synthetic vegan model. And the nyjah shoes are made out of some type of rubber.
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yeah but the cariumas are made out of some vegan suede that is supposed to be 3 times as durable as regular suede, and i wonder if they came up with it or if it’s available for other companies to use too.
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That I couldn't tell you. But if you can't find something similar you can try the others. They are more durable than suede and look better .
Look better than cariuma that is.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on May 15, 2023, 05:37:31 AM
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long shot but has anyone on here skated the cariuma mike v shoe? supposedly it’s made out of some synthetic material that’s more durable than regular suede, i wonder what it is and if any other companies use something similar.
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Emerica Dixon shoe has a synthetic vegan model. And the nyjah shoes are made out of some type of rubber.
[close]

yeah but the cariumas are made out of some vegan suede that is supposed to be 3 times as durable as regular suede, and i wonder if they came up with it or if it’s available for other companies to use too.
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That I couldn't tell you. But if you can't find something similar you can try the others. They are more durable than suede and look better .
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Look better than cariuma that is.
Anybody buying Cariumas deserves several kicks on the balls and
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 15, 2023, 06:10:40 AM
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You sure they are owned by dwindle?  Why don’t they distribute them?
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I think you might find more answers between this:

https://dwindle.com/home/tag/Clich%C3%A9+Skateboards

And this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clich%C3%A9_Skateboards


Cliché Skateboards was a skateboard company based in Lyon, France, and distributed by the American company Dwindle Distribution. The company was established in 1997 by French professional skateboarder Jeremie Daclin. In 2001, Cliché was purchased by the France-based Salomon Group which in 2005 became a part of Amer Sports. In 2009, US-based Dwindle Distribution purchased the company from the Salomon Group. In November 2016, Dwindle announced that they would be discontinuing the brand.



I know not to trust everything you read on the internet, but Dwindle bought the rights to Cliche and then pretty much dropped the brand when they were cutting back, but they still owned it and every now and then they would release some generic boards and graphics - the AU distro has had a few on occasion, but it has never been pushed and more just random stock.

The pics from that listing, which are really good, show the tops to be Dwindle wood for sure, so unless someone else now has them, I would say it is part of the corporate ownership just doing their thing and re releasing whatever they can that doesn't involve any royalties to anyone like pro dudes, or artists or anyone else, as they don't seem like new graphics too.

Of course I could be wrong - happy to be corrected if anyone does know anything more about the brand - but that seemed to be the case back when things went the way they did, especially with new owners of Dwindle trying to milk as much as they can from the company and any brands they have under them.

Yeah, I knew they owned them but hadn’t seen anything for awhile, so I thought they had rather sold the brand or these were bootlegs.  I hadn’t known Dwindle to do anything other than the known brands so it surprised me. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 15, 2023, 09:15:24 AM
Tagging big brands on Instagram - yes, or no?
Why and why not?

Just wondering, cause I see this often.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 15, 2023, 04:34:44 PM
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Yeah, I knew they owned them but hadn’t seen anything for awhile, so I thought they had rather sold the brand or these were bootlegs.  I hadn’t known Dwindle to do anything other than the known brands so it surprised me.


You are not the only one there - the same thing came up elsewhere  a while back, maybe in store and that was more or less the answer that was given from someone who was in the know.

The shop I was in had just received a whole lot of budget beginner looking Cliche completes, just same generic logos on re release at the time, all through Dwindle Dist too.



I think right now, the current owners are of the mind to pay as little as possible for anything while still trying to get as much as they can out of any known brand under their control.

To me, with that in mind, it all makes sense.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on May 15, 2023, 05:48:03 PM
Tagging big brands on Instagram - yes, or no?
Why and why not?

Just wondering, cause I see this often.

Unless you got a box from them, no. Nobody running a brand cares if Timmy from Iowa tags Polar when he sets up a board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 16, 2023, 03:50:44 AM
anyone have good ideas for portable shade? need to find some sort of umbrella + stand that fits into my trunk... everything i own is way too big :(  maybe some sort of tent would make more sense? trying not to spend over $100 on it either if possible

why dont skate parks ever have shade... id trade 3 of my local skateparks to have the smallest one covered.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 16, 2023, 07:17:37 AM
what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 16, 2023, 07:38:31 AM
what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 16, 2023, 07:46:15 AM
Tagging big brands on Instagram - yes, or no?
Why and why not?

Just wondering, cause I see this often.


ThankyouVans (for this pair of shoes I payed full price for)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on May 16, 2023, 11:50:56 AM
what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board

Get a slick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 16, 2023, 01:42:20 PM
Why is my front foot often in the way or almost the shin when I want to do hardflips?

What am I doing wrong? I can do them when my foot is ridiculously far in the back of the board though.

Any idea?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manuduncan on May 16, 2023, 01:54:35 PM
it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on May 16, 2023, 02:54:04 PM
it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating

surf pants
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 16, 2023, 03:23:59 PM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
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Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.

i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roll_dog on May 16, 2023, 03:42:55 PM
it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating

Bud, when you are considering skating in linen pants, it's time to switch to shorts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on May 18, 2023, 01:22:24 AM
Which funny guy changed the description of the Shoes & Gear board?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 18, 2023, 02:26:06 AM
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it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating
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surf pants

this
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 18, 2023, 07:12:37 AM
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surf pants
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this

It appears you can even pee on them if it gets too hot for cooling purposes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 18, 2023, 07:30:37 AM
Which funny guy changed the description of the Shoes & Gear board?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126094.msg4011638#msg4011638
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 18, 2023, 07:53:10 AM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
[close]
Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
[close]

i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
The first batch of Af1 had the pivot cup problem, (some) classics have more of an axle bending problem.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on May 18, 2023, 08:23:22 AM
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Which funny guy changed the description of the Shoes & Gear board?
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126094.msg4011638#msg4011638

Mb, mind immediately jumped to Andrew Tate and thought someone was trolling the mods. Disregard my comment.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on May 18, 2023, 01:48:32 PM
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it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating
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surf pants
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this
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It appears you can even pee on them if it gets too hot for cooling purposes.
…just be sure to get good coverage when you pee on them (make sure you soak em real good in urine for even coloring & to avoid the appearance of “spotting”.
I read somewhere that can be problematic. 😉
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on May 19, 2023, 07:19:44 AM
it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating


Shorts and socks to kinda take the brunt on shinners 

Higher the socks the downer the foo,foo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 19, 2023, 07:21:01 AM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
[close]
Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
[close]

i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
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The first batch of Af1 had the pivot cup problem, (some) classics have more of an axle bending problem.

Is the baseplate much different between AF1 and Classic?
Was also thinking Ace trucks bceause they suck the wheelbase in, i would think they make the most sense for noseslides as well / least drag.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 19, 2023, 08:09:35 AM
it's starting to get hot and i'm not a shorts wearer, what are some of your guys' best lightweight more breathable pants for skating? does anyone wear linen pants when skating

I usually wear and skate in linen pants all summer long. Good linen is pretty tough, and I hate to get it damaged but also I buy clothes to wear, not to keep on a shelf in pristine condition. Usually the worst thing that happens is that I somehow flip into the pants and get some axle grease on them or otherwise sit on something gross, but all of my linen pants (four pairs) were purchased used for ~$20-40, so that keeps me from being too precious about them. The comfort in heat is unmatched, especially when there's a good breeze which is just wafting through your pants across your legs. Sometimes I worry that I look a little goofy, but also I'm a middle aged man on a skateboard so whatever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 19, 2023, 12:59:51 PM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
[close]
Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
[close]

i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
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The first batch of Af1 had the pivot cup problem, (some) classics have more of an axle bending problem.
[close]

Is the baseplate much different between AF1 and Classic?
Was also thinking Ace trucks bceause they suck the wheelbase in, i would think they make the most sense for noseslides as well / least drag.
They're the same except the pivot cup, which makes them non interchangeable without changing the cups. AF1 hangers move around in the classic pivot cups, classic hangers are too fat for AF1 pivot cups.

I do not know how it actually feels if you change the pivot cups to fit the other hanger, haven't tried yet. Or even if the other pivot cups even fit the baseplate!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on May 19, 2023, 02:16:59 PM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
[close]
Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
[close]

i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
[close]
The first batch of Af1 had the pivot cup problem, (some) classics have more of an axle bending problem.
[close]

Is the baseplate much different between AF1 and Classic?
Was also thinking Ace trucks bceause they suck the wheelbase in, i would think they make the most sense for noseslides as well / least drag.
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They're the same except the pivot cup, which makes them non interchangeable without changing the cups. AF1 hangers move around in the classic pivot cups, classic hangers are too fat for AF1 pivot cups.

I do not know how it actually feels if you change the pivot cups to fit the other hanger, haven't tried yet. Or even if the other pivot cups even fit the baseplate!

Different alloy though like the hangers in AF1s and Classics? I think that was the point in the initial recommendation.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on May 19, 2023, 02:21:37 PM
Found an old board at a thrift shop, and it had these sick af trucks on it. I gave them a lil love with a wire brush on my electric drill, and a few washers and bushings later they work out alright.

But what are they even?

(https://i.ibb.co/jhY1ztj/DFEE2-AC6-1464-4304-8-FB5-166-FB604-FC47.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhY1ztj)

(https://i.ibb.co/hc44LvB/D08-D588-B-5-E5-E-4-B6-D-9-D24-F1-CAE979511-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hc44LvB)

(https://i.ibb.co/pJwkPJV/5-A2-CE3-E5-5-D59-4-DF2-8-C0-E-3515-B5-B5-EF5-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJwkPJV)

(https://i.ibb.co/4WbZ99Z/E21-D5023-8-A6-C-4-CAD-AB1-D-D99-BA99515-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4WbZ99Z)

(https://i.ibb.co/Ws71Tgr/B8-D706-AA-275-E-41-D4-9501-013-C5-E722305.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ws71Tgr)

Also, check out the sick wheels 62 x 62, 55 mm patch or some shit. They’re hard af, and centre offset. Simply marked “urethane”.
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Post by: goodatmeth on May 19, 2023, 02:26:58 PM
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what would you guys say is the most soapy setup possible for noseslides?

Spitfire Classic 50mm, 101a

Venture Trucks? Do they have the chonkiest baseplate? Do you want a chunkier baseplate, or forged? All I know is, you don't want Thunders, the wheels drag way too much.

Shape of the nose > Would you want more Spoon? Im thinking less friction (and also better for popping up to crook which is the whole point of this setup in the first place) probably would have to be steep kick BBS Board
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Nothing (made of aluminium) slides as crazy as the ace classic baseplate.
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i heard ace classic have shit pivot cup? has that been corrected yet?
maybe ill just get AF1 44 size. i am happy with how my AF1 60s noseslide - and its the same height as venture. i am really torn between these 2 brands now. i feel like ace makes more sense though cause i am more of a slappy rider and i like looser trucks. i really was set on thunders but after feeling how the wheels drag on noseslides, it was a deal breaker for me. maybe with classic wheels it would be better but i am not willing to take that gamble.
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The first batch of Af1 had the pivot cup problem, (some) classics have more of an axle bending problem.
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Is the baseplate much different between AF1 and Classic?
Was also thinking Ace trucks bceause they suck the wheelbase in, i would think they make the most sense for noseslides as well / least drag.
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They're the same except the pivot cup, which makes them non interchangeable without changing the cups. AF1 hangers move around in the classic pivot cups, classic hangers are too fat for AF1 pivot cups.

I do not know how it actually feels if you change the pivot cups to fit the other hanger, haven't tried yet. Or even if the other pivot cups even fit the baseplate!
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Different alloy though like the hangers in AF1s and Classics? I think that was the point in the initial recommendation.
Absolutely yes, I was just talking about the measurements
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on May 19, 2023, 02:35:19 PM
I wonder how Ishod shoe is selling
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Space Cowboy on May 19, 2023, 03:03:26 PM
I wonder how Ishod shoe is selling

I have only seen one pair in the wild so far...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 19, 2023, 03:09:47 PM
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I wonder how Ishod shoe is selling
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I have only seen one pair in the wild so far...

Nike outlet near me is packed full of them for $49.99
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2023, 06:03:45 PM
Found an old board at a thrift shop, and it had these sick af trucks on it. I gave them a lil love with a wire brush on my electric drill, and a few washers and bushings later they work out alright.

But what are they even?

Also, check out the sick wheels 62 x 62, 55 mm patch or some shit. They’re hard af, and centre offset. Simply marked “urethane”.


These were the beginner department store complete from the 80s, maybe still some around, but more often than not they are virtually extinct.  All budget no name parts that were cheaply made and were usually copies of one or more of the top brands of the day.  Mostly just fun to look at nowdays, but occasionally some bits still skate ok from them - very rarely though, so I would be careful if you are skating anything from that board in any normal way.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on May 19, 2023, 10:54:27 PM
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I wonder how Ishod shoe is selling
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I have only seen one pair in the wild so far...
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Nike outlet near me is packed full of them for $49.99

For most of 2022 it seems they sold well and I saw them almost every time I skated parks. I still see them somewhat often so I assume okay, but not as well as the first 6 months I reckon
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on May 20, 2023, 12:30:37 AM
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Found an old board at a thrift shop, and it had these sick af trucks on it. I gave them a lil love with a wire brush on my electric drill, and a few washers and bushings later they work out alright.

But what are they even?

Also, check out the sick wheels 62 x 62, 55 mm patch or some shit. They’re hard af, and centre offset. Simply marked “urethane”.
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These were the beginner department store complete  from the 80s, maybe still some around, but more often than not they are virtually extinct.  All budget no name parts that were cheaply made and were usually copies of one or more of the top brands of the day.  Mostly just fun to look at nowdays, but occasionally some bits still skate ok from them - very rarely though, so I would be careful if you are skating anything from that board in any normal way.

It’s as I expected then, thanks for confirming.
I thought maybe someone knew what kind of truck they were copies of. The geometry is weird, and they have a ton of lean. Road testing will ensue. I set them up on the 9” Orange eagle with 59mm 78a black kryptonics. It’s a cruiser. Thinking about fitting the rails, nose guard and tail block from the old board that went in the trash.

The original bushings must’ve been hella tall, as I had to shim up the regular sized ones with big washers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 20, 2023, 04:06:05 AM
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Found an old board at a thrift shop, and it had these sick af trucks on it. I gave them a lil love with a wire brush on my electric drill, and a few washers and bushings later they work out alright.

But what are they even?

Also, check out the sick wheels 62 x 62, 55 mm patch or some shit. They’re hard af, and centre offset. Simply marked “urethane”.
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These were the beginner department store complete  from the 80s, maybe still some around, but more often than not they are virtually extinct.  All budget no name parts that were cheaply made and were usually copies of one or more of the top brands of the day.  Mostly just fun to look at nowdays, but occasionally some bits still skate ok from them - very rarely though, so I would be careful if you are skating anything from that board in any normal way.
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It’s as I expected then, thanks for confirming.
I thought maybe someone knew what kind of truck they were copies of. The geometry is weird, and they have a ton of lean. Road testing will ensue. I set them up on the 9” Orange eagle with 59mm 78a black kryptonics. It’s a cruiser. Thinking about fitting the rails, nose guard and tail block from the old board that went in the trash.

The original bushings must’ve been hella tall, as I had to shim up the regular sized ones with big washers.


Old trucks used to have up to 17 mm bottom bushings and 14 mm top bushings - still have some NOS random brand bushing packs from when a shop closed, none of them trustworthy now though.

Seeing some of those now, they would never fit in modern / normal trucks.


There are some people who keep a lot of those sort of boards, more just for the memories of how crap some skateboards were from back then, but there isn't really any money in the cheap copy department store boards, certainly not like any old pro boards from back in the day.

It is pretty cool to see some of those and think that is how bad things used to be for kids (myself included) growing up learning on that as a first board.

Gotta start somewhere though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on May 20, 2023, 05:14:23 AM
@Mbrimson88  bro you're such a resource, great to have you on the boards!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 20, 2023, 07:06:06 AM
Do Ace Classics and AF-1s use the same bushing? I could measure but I don’t want to disassemble my trucks to do so.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 20, 2023, 07:15:04 AM
Do Ace Classics and AF-1s use the same bushing? I could measure but I don’t want to disassemble my trucks to do so.
Yes, measurements are exactly the same. Actual urethane might be different, but feels the same to me
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Post by: manysnakes on May 20, 2023, 09:51:17 AM
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Do Ace Classics and AF-1s use the same bushing? I could measure but I don’t want to disassemble my trucks to do so.
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Yes, measurements are exactly the same. Actual urethane might be different, but feels the same to me

Thank you. I wonder about the urethane because my Classic bushings outlasted my axled Classic trucks, but the bushings on my AF-1s are shredded after a year of fairly minimal skating. It doesn’t make any sense that they’d change them though, so I assume it’s just a fluke, or else rotten luck.
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Post by: goodatmeth on May 20, 2023, 10:24:42 AM
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Do Ace Classics and AF-1s use the same bushing? I could measure but I don’t want to disassemble my trucks to do so.
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Yes, measurements are exactly the same. Actual urethane might be different, but feels the same to me
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Thank you. I wonder about the urethane because my Classic bushings outlasted my axled Classic trucks, but the bushings on my AF-1s are shredded after a year of fairly minimal skating. It doesn’t make any sense that they’d change them though, so I assume it’s just a fluke, or else rotten luck.

Maybe because of the different washers on af1 and classics? Now that you said it I've actually had the same experience. My af1 top bushing looks pretty shredded (but still works perfectly fine) and the classic top looks good
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 20, 2023, 02:09:41 PM
Do Ace Classics and AF-1s use the same bushing? I could measure but I don’t want to disassemble my trucks to do so.

The heights are the same, but the AF1 bushings are a narrower diameter at the top. Thats why they feel a little more wild out of the box than Classics, but it wears ’em out faster, too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 21, 2023, 04:47:37 AM
@Mbrimson88  bro you're such a resource, great to have you on the boards!


Just stoked to have somewhere I can "be helpful" with regard to skateboarding, because I probably talk the ear off anyone I see in person, always about skateboards and have had to lay off the coffee a bit more than I might like when I am out and about in the real world in the past.

Happy to be on a skateboard just as much too, for that matter.

:)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: newguy on May 21, 2023, 05:43:08 AM
Yall know how to resole old jordans? I bought Jordan 6 olympics for cheap and the left sole is unfortunately crumbling, I'm thinking of looking around for shoe people near me to restore them, is that even possible?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on May 21, 2023, 05:58:45 AM
Has anyone tried the Foundation boards labelled as Mellow Concave, what wood shop do you think is being used and how short is the Wheelbase?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gaunting on May 21, 2023, 07:41:02 AM
does anyone know the wheelbases on rassvet boards? particularly the 8.125” shape? wanna get it, but not if it’s some like 14.38” WB.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on May 21, 2023, 08:27:35 AM
Has anyone tried the Foundation boards labelled as Mellow Concave, what wood shop do you think is being used and how short is the Wheelbase?

Hit or miss, I think the team boards are from China, pro boards from PS Stix last I saw in store a few months back.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BrknBrds on May 21, 2023, 05:27:38 PM
Skate Team Question : Do any particular shoe brands prefer skaters from the same board teams?

I noticed Vans has a good amount of FA/Hockey   & Quasi guys and Nike has a good chunk of April team members.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Firebert on May 21, 2023, 05:30:31 PM
Skate Team Question : Do any particular shoe brands prefer skaters from the same board teams?

I noticed Vans has a good amount of FA/Hockey   & Quasi guys and Nike has a good chunk of April team members.
Yes, the team managers have friends.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 21, 2023, 08:17:07 PM
does anyone know the wheelbases on rassvet boards? particularly the 8.125” shape? wanna get it, but not if it’s some like 14.38” WB.


Not sure how current this is but I was surprised it came up as almost the first search response:


https://lofistore.com.au/collections/rassvet/products/sun-collage-deck

Sun Collage Deck, Pink
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.125" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix


* The board in that pic looks really square, but I also thought, being PS Stix, it wouldn't be as long as 32.25 and could come out more in the 31.8 to 32 overall length when measured flat across the board.



Other sizes with all the info:


https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-blue

Sun Collage Deck, Blue
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.25" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix



https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-black

Sun Collage Deck, Green
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.5" x 32.375"
- Wheelbase: 14.25"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on May 22, 2023, 01:02:47 AM
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Skate Team Question : Do any particular shoe brands prefer skaters from the same board teams?

I noticed Vans has a good amount of FA/Hockey   & Quasi guys and Nike has a good chunk of April team members.
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Yes, the team managers have friends.

Also, Baker and Vans have a lot of riders on each other's teams: before and after Reynolds joining Vans, so that's another one.

There's been numerous"image associations" that we've seen over the years. Some brand/distribution based and others image. Some are also heavily on the friends connection like @Mbrimson88 pointed out

Plan B x Etnies or DC
Consolidated x anything not corporate
Hockey/FA x Vans or Nike
Polar x Nike or Cons
Baker or Deathwish x Emerica
Primitive x Nike
April x Nike
Mystery/Zero x Fallen or Circa
Colours Collective (Concrete Visionary brands) x FP Footwear (shoes & insoles)
Toy Machine x Emerica
Quasi x Vans (formerly Huf was pretty associated)
Crailtap x Lakai or Nike (in later years)

Those are just some I've noticed

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2023, 02:55:15 AM
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Skate Team Question : Do any particular shoe brands prefer skaters from the same board teams?

I noticed Vans has a good amount of FA/Hockey   & Quasi guys and Nike has a good chunk of April team members.
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Yes, the team managers have friends.
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Also, Baker and Vans have a lot of riders on each other's teams: before and after Reynolds joining Vans, so that's another one.

There's been numerous"image associations" that we've seen over the years. Some brand/distribution based and others image. Some are also heavily on the friends connection like @Mbrimson88 pointed out


@Firebert is the man there, I think, not me.  :)


Definitely a lot of mates / friends / distribution relationships often just having team managers in the same place as the rest of the team being enough to get a dude on.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on May 22, 2023, 09:29:34 AM
recommendations for a good quality re-threading tool not specific to skateboarding?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on May 22, 2023, 11:30:11 AM
What is your budget? Most Ace Hardware stores carry decent Irwin re-threading dyes. Make sure to get something with a handle and use it in a vice.
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Post by: schralp pal on May 22, 2023, 12:09:15 PM
What is your budget? Most Ace Hardware stores carry decent Irwin re-threading dyes. Make sure to get something with a handle and use it in a vice.

I was hoping for a one piece tool, but yeah I’m mostly seeing kits out therein the 50$ range. I was hoping for something like 20$ but willing to pay up for something decent I can add to my regular tool kit. I can get a new set of trucks for the price of
One of those kits, but I love my grooves so much right now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on May 22, 2023, 12:26:59 PM
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What is your budget? Most Ace Hardware stores carry decent Irwin re-threading dyes. Make sure to get something with a handle and use it in a vice.
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I was hoping for a one piece tool, but yeah I’m mostly seeing kits out therein the 50$ range. I was hoping for something like 20$ but willing to pay up for something decent I can add to my regular tool kit. I can get a new set of trucks for the price of
One of those kits, but I love my grooves so much right now.

I just searched “rethread kit” on duck duck go and multiple sub 30 U$D kits popped up. Just sayin
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 22, 2023, 01:22:03 PM
recommendations for a good quality re-threading tool not specific to skateboarding?
(https://i.postimg.cc/4d6Htzx9/9-AF0-D65-D-C8-A9-4756-9-F67-627-A70-E78-E52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2KKbY8S)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gaunting on May 22, 2023, 01:23:13 PM
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does anyone know the wheelbases on rassvet boards? particularly the 8.125” shape? wanna get it, but not if it’s some like 14.38” WB.
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Not sure how current this is but I was surprised it came up as almost the first search response:


https://lofistore.com.au/collections/rassvet/products/sun-collage-deck

Sun Collage Deck, Pink
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.125" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix


* The board in that pic looks really square, but I also thought, being PS Stix, it wouldn't be as long as 32.25 and could come out more in the 31.8 to 32 overall length when measured flat across the board.



Other sizes with all the info:


https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-blue

Sun Collage Deck, Blue
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.25" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix



https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-black

Sun Collage Deck, Green
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.5" x 32.375"
- Wheelbase: 14.25"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix

thank you brother! really appreciate that! probably will be a purchase soon.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 22, 2023, 01:33:09 PM
Bob Otis is going for emergency heart surgery. How does this happen to someone who doesn't eat meat?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: schralp pal on May 22, 2023, 01:58:34 PM
Thanks for the answers regarding the re-threader. I will probably get one of those kits so I can learn how to use it.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on May 23, 2023, 03:44:26 AM
Yall know how to resole old jordans? I bought Jordan 6 olympics for cheap and the left sole is unfortunately crumbling, I'm thinking of looking around for shoe people near me to restore them, is that even possible?

https://grailify.com/en/7-sick-sole-swaps-you-need-to-see

This is an old article, so not sure if any of the spots/people mentioned are still doing it, but worth a try I suppose? My homie who was heavily into the resale market said there are a few consignment shops that do sole swaps but it's not cheap. Might not be worth the price unless one has sentimental attachment to the kicks.


edit: If you do a google search for "sole swap" there may be places geographically close to you that pop up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: newguy on May 23, 2023, 11:05:31 AM
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Yall know how to resole old jordans? I bought Jordan 6 olympics for cheap and the left sole is unfortunately crumbling, I'm thinking of looking around for shoe people near me to restore them, is that even possible?
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https://grailify.com/en/7-sick-sole-swaps-you-need-to-see

This is an old article, so not sure if any of the spots/people mentioned are still doing it, but worth a try I suppose? My homie who was heavily into the resale market said there are a few consignment shops that do sole swaps but it's not cheap. Might not be worth the price unless one has sentimental attachment to the kicks.


edit: If you do a google search for "sole swap" there may be places geographically close to you that pop up.

Hah yeah I've wanted jordan 6s since I was twelve so I really want to keep them wearable for as long as I can, thanks for the link i'll check it out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on May 23, 2023, 01:01:40 PM
im sure this has been asked in here 1000 times but does anyone have any recommendations on twin nose boards or boards with a wider tail?

im getting back into skating after 11ish years and im 6’6 and have a size 13 shoe. i already feel too big for my 8.5 shop deck. i have a 8.5 hockey deck given to me by a friend that im about to set up today so we’ll see how that goes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 23, 2023, 01:05:50 PM
im sure this has been asked in here 1000 times but does anyone have any recommendations on twin nose boards or boards with a wider tail?

im getting back into skating after 11ish years and im 6’6 and have a size 13 shoe. i already feel too big for my 8.5 shop deck. i have a 8.5 hockey deck given to me by a friend that im about to set up today so we’ll see how that goes.

I'm also a 13 and I picked up a Hockey 8.75 and I've been really enjoying it. Big Square nose but it also has a really full tail, much fuller than the 8.5 shape. I also tried the 8.8 BA shape but it was too long
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FGO925 on May 23, 2023, 03:59:15 PM
Are thunder and Indy pivot cups the same size? Cant measure until I’m home from work, but I need to order a new set
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 23, 2023, 04:56:32 PM
Are thunder and Indy pivot cups the same size? Cant measure until I’m home from work, but I need to order a new set


The generic pivot cups that come from some suppliers do fit both the same.

Some listed as Thunder (from DLX) will fit Indy, Thunder, Venture and some other brands I have used them in too.

Guessing the Indy pivot cups will also fit straight in any of those brands too, but I haven't ordered any recently.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TonySquared on May 23, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
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im sure this has been asked in here 1000 times but does anyone have any recommendations on twin nose boards or boards with a wider tail?

im getting back into skating after 11ish years and im 6’6 and have a size 13 shoe. i already feel too big for my 8.5 shop deck. i have a 8.5 hockey deck given to me by a friend that im about to set up today so we’ll see how that goes.
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I'm also a 13 and I picked up a Hockey 8.75 and I've been really enjoying it. Big Square nose but it also has a really full tail, much fuller than the 8.5 shape. I also tried the 8.8 BA shape but it was too long

i skated the hockey deck today and i actually really liked it. tail is pretty big, and yeah ive been actually thinking about going up to something like a 9 but that might be a bit much.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on May 24, 2023, 03:31:54 AM
Off-topic, but does anyone else experience a lot of freezing pages browsing Slap on mobile? I'm using Chrome on an Android and Chrome seems to stop responding a ton lately, and it mostly happens while browsing Slap. Just wondering if it's my device/app that's causing these problems, or if it's server-side.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on May 24, 2023, 05:23:51 AM
Can anybody identify the Nike basketball shoe k2 was inspired by?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on May 24, 2023, 05:24:40 AM
what truck size would you recommend for a Zip Zogger 10.75" ?
It seems that 169 Indys / 161 Thunders should work with large wheels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2023, 07:19:56 AM
what truck size would you recommend for a Zip Zogger 10.75" ?
It seems that 169 Indys / 161 Thunders should work with large wheels

Some people have used Indy 215 or Thunder 181s (which is what they made them for) but the funny thing is they just kind of sit a bit too wide for comfort for most people, so yeah Indy 169s or Thunder 161s work well, usually with wider wheels if you want them to sit on the edge, or any normal wheels to sit under a bit.

Personal preference really, but here are the two examples:



posted in the big boy thread but it's TOO BIG

spillin over for the cross post

(http://i.imgur.com/gmixlPH.jpg?1)

Zogger 10.75"
169 / 92a barrel bushing / khiro soft pivot cups
56mm F4 Radial (worn to 53*)
indy 1/8 risers
indy/thrasher hellride hardware
swiss 6
jessup



(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r635/thedeficientone/79E6372F-CC0E-4D6C-AE07-27077E607060_zps3gk3gnls.jpeg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/thedeficientone/media/79E6372F-CC0E-4D6C-AE07-27077E607060_zps3gk3gnls.jpeg.html)

Gonna get weird on this thing. At first I thought this thing was stupid. Was kicking myself after passing. Scooped up 3 next chance I got

Zig Zogger 10.75 x 30
Independent 215s Chinese hanger/American baseplate
Formula Four 51mm 101 conicals
Reds
Shorty’s
Jessup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Firebert on May 24, 2023, 07:34:02 AM
Can anybody identify the Nike basketball shoe k2 was inspired by?
I always thought it was inspired by a hiking boot. Interesting that this was the first skate shoe with an EVA midsole.
(http://www.everypeoples.com/features/images/everypeoples_feature_koston_sneaker_k2.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on May 24, 2023, 09:42:20 AM
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Can anybody identify the Nike basketball shoe k2 was inspired by?
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I always thought it was inspired by a hiking boot. Interesting that this was the first skate shoe with an EVA midsole.
(http://www.everypeoples.com/features/images/everypeoples_feature_koston_sneaker_k2.jpg)

Could very well be. The designer, Franck Boistel says in his Ripped Laces interview that it’s based on a Nike b-ball shoe that Koston brought to them, IF he remembers correctly

https://andrewtmurrell.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/meet-the-man-behind-all-of-your-favorite-skate-shoes/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on May 24, 2023, 05:17:26 PM
Off-topic, but does anyone else experience a lot of freezing pages browsing Slap on mobile? I'm using Chrome on an Android and Chrome seems to stop responding a ton lately, and it mostly happens while browsing Slap. Just wondering if it's my device/app that's causing these problems, or if it's server-side.

Firefox fixes things
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 24, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
Off-topic, but does anyone else experience a lot of freezing pages browsing Slap on mobile? I'm using Chrome on an Android and Chrome seems to stop responding a ton lately, and it mostly happens while browsing Slap. Just wondering if it's my device/app that's causing these problems, or if it's server-side.
Had that happen as well as when trying to embed videos(no matter how I try embedding them) they just come up as a link. Never did that until about a month ago.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on May 25, 2023, 01:45:11 AM
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im sure this has been asked in here 1000 times but does anyone have any recommendations on twin nose boards or boards with a wider tail?

im getting back into skating after 11ish years and im 6’6 and have a size 13 shoe. i already feel too big for my 8.5 shop deck. i have a 8.5 hockey deck given to me by a friend that im about to set up today so we’ll see how that goes.
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I'm also a 13 and I picked up a Hockey 8.75 and I've been really enjoying it. Big Square nose but it also has a really full tail, much fuller than the 8.5 shape. I also tried the 8.8 BA shape but it was too long
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i skated the hockey deck today and i actually really liked it. tail is pretty big, and yeah ive been actually thinking about going up to something like a 9 but that might be a bit much.
same height same shoe size
9-9.25 feels proportional to my body (and looks right on film)
boards also dont break as often
shorter length and wheelbase is the key, 33” long is too much
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on May 25, 2023, 12:12:34 PM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eSK3 on May 25, 2023, 12:17:37 PM
Can anybody identify the Nike basketball shoe k2 was inspired by?

Jordan 11. You’re welcome.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chatbot on May 25, 2023, 12:23:39 PM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??

You can definitely blame the equipment up to a certain degree. I had a deck with a steeper and shorter nose than what I was used to so all my nollie tricks started to ghost pop.The extra millisecond it took for the nose to hit the ground before I needed to start flicking threw me off so much that I gave the board away after 2 sessions. I could have just took more time to adjust the way I skate instead of blaming the board but no one has time for that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on May 25, 2023, 12:24:41 PM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??

Yes, a setup too tall/steep for your preferences can definitely lead to ghost pop. Being better and having correct technique is most important but this is one of the things where setup can make an immediate difference
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 25, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
Ya and to be honest is it really worth re-learning all your pop timing for a deck or setup? Probably not.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on May 25, 2023, 11:44:25 PM
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Can anybody identify the Nike basketball shoe k2 was inspired by?
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Jordan 11. You’re welcome.

That’s one clear inspiration for sure.
Guess it’s not a clear ripoff of any one shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 26, 2023, 06:13:01 AM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??

I ghost pop pretty frequently on indys or aces, whereas my pop/flick is super consistent on thunder/venture which give your board a longer effective wheelbase. That extra couple of degrees of pop angle on Indy/ace is just hard for me to adapt to
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 26, 2023, 06:37:51 AM
as far as the equipment, i can do any of my tricks on any board, but the first try usually looks like ass / complete fail
we are only talking a few mm usually, at most 1 cm lol
i will say 14" to 15"wb is the hardest thing for me to adjust to
height and width usually is not a huge issue for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 27, 2023, 07:32:33 AM
So my feet were going a little numb with the little paper thin insoles in my reeboks. I slapped a vans ultracush overtop. My heels sit a bit higher but damn the ride is more comfy. Am I a lunatic or a genius?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on May 27, 2023, 08:11:49 AM
So my feet were going a little numb with the little paper thin insoles in my reeboks. I slapped a vans ultracush overtop. My heels sit a bit higher but damn the ride is more comfy. Am I a lunatic or a genius?
You just reacted accordingly. Beware of ankle rolls though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on May 27, 2023, 09:23:49 AM
So my feet were going a little numb with the little paper thin insoles in my reeboks. I slapped a vans ultracush overtop. My heels sit a bit higher but damn the ride is more comfy. Am I a lunatic or a genius?

Personally I am less interested in the cushion aspect of the insole and more concerned with whether or not they work for the contours of my feet, so I regularly save the insoles from my favorite shoes and reuse them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 27, 2023, 10:29:22 AM
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So my feet were going a little numb with the little paper thin insoles in my reeboks. I slapped a vans ultracush overtop. My heels sit a bit higher but damn the ride is more comfy. Am I a lunatic or a genius?
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Personally I am less interested in the cushion aspect of the insole and more concerned with whether or not they work for the contours of my feet, so I regularly save the insoles from my favorite shoes and reuse them.

Yeah, same. These are almost three years old and super molded at this point. I hated ultracush at first, but it really is about breaking it in and putting it in the right shoe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on May 27, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??

Absolutely on equipment to a degree! Your "muscle memory" or timing on deck/truck/wheel combo that you've gotten comfortable with will not work as smoothly on a new set up where the equipment alters one or more of the components that negatively affects your comfort.

I set up a Zero recently and while I enjoyed the big pop it offered, the steeper kicks were difficult to adjust to since my legs are used to something mellower than it (nose & tail) and I have strong legs/calves. I play soccer & skate.

Even if I changed my technique, it still didn't feel as comfortable so I switched to a mellower Hockey (shape 2: not blunt) deck and the issues with manuals and ghost pop on nollie/switch disappeared from the Zero before it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on May 27, 2023, 01:29:15 PM
Am I the only one that thinks boardslides/lipslides take some of the pop away from new decks? It’s in my head now so I purposely avoid anything between the trucks till it’s a few weeks old.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on May 27, 2023, 10:01:21 PM
Off-topic, but does anyone else experience a lot of freezing pages browsing Slap on mobile? I'm using Chrome on an Android and Chrome seems to stop responding a ton lately, and it mostly happens while browsing Slap. Just wondering if it's my device/app that's causing these problems, or if it's server-side.

used to, but after new software and security mobile updates it got way better..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Justinshreds on May 28, 2023, 04:28:36 PM
How do the Girl go27 and go52 shapes compare to the Primitive/April 8.25 shape? Really liking the April that I am currently on, but thinking about trying out Girl while they are on sale.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 29, 2023, 07:09:12 AM
When the fuck did we go from getting 10 eggo waffles in a pack to 6?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on May 29, 2023, 07:15:22 AM
When the fuck did we go from getting 10 eggo waffles in a pack to 6?

Shrinkflation. Thanks capitalism
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 29, 2023, 07:15:42 AM
When the fuck did we go from getting 10 eggo waffles in a pack to 6?
its still 8 for me... its always been 8 as far as i know (canada though)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 29, 2023, 09:32:48 AM
How do the Girl go27 and go52 shapes compare to the Primitive/April 8.25 shape? Really liking the April that I am currently on, but thinking about trying out Girl while they are on sale.

The G052 has an oddly long feeling tail, like someone took a longer shape and just moved the truck 1/4" forward. The boards are definitely flatter, have more flat space after the bolts, then steeper kicks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 29, 2023, 11:16:34 AM
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When the fuck did we go from getting 10 eggo waffles in a pack to 6?
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its still 8 for me... its always been 8 as far as i know (canada though)
I’d laugh because I used to get two more than you, but then I’d have to cry because now I get two less
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 30, 2023, 07:12:48 AM
how far in should i put the rails on a 8.75" board?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 30, 2023, 07:33:56 AM
Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??


I mean I feel like you could get used to anything within reason, but I know certain changes I've tried made the first couple sessions very ghost-pop heavy. I tried some very large Conical Fulls like the cool kids recently and it felt like I was ollieing on a cruiser board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on May 30, 2023, 08:36:55 AM
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Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??
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I mean I feel like you could get used to anything within reason, but I know certain changes I've tried made the first couple sessions very ghost-pop heavy. I tried some very large Conical Fulls like the cool kids recently and it felt like I was ollieing on a cruiser board.
Steep kicks, high trucks, big wheels, long whelbase and i am in the ghost pop world. I need at least 2 of these components to be on the opposite side of the spectrum so i can hit the ground.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on May 30, 2023, 01:44:29 PM
Maybe already in another thread, but do any other companies do the Dwindle mellow concave/steep kicks shape? Is it a stock DSM mold or is it bespoke to Enjoi/Blind/etc?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 30, 2023, 05:26:19 PM
how far in should i put the rails on a 8.75" board?


The average is about a finger width in from the edge, but it all depends on what you want and the rails themselves.

If you want only rail contact, usually place them on the board and check to see if the middle sticks up (board graphic up) as it will depend on the rails, as some are taller, some more low profile.

If you want super tech slide up into smith / feeble / hurricane or any combos, usually in a bit more, up to two fingers in from the edge - some people even ran them three fingers in from the edge back in the day, but that was on wider boards and it felt really extreme to stand on it like that.

If you would rather they are there to balance you out fully, then people put them almost on the edge of the board, but that is often more for grab tricks, which I don't think you would be needing.

I think that is about it for rail placement, but others might have different takes too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on May 30, 2023, 05:32:12 PM
You’re suppose to use wood screws that go all the way through your deck, then you hammer them off……the sharp ends help your board stick to your feet while doing slappies…..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 30, 2023, 06:27:18 PM
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how far in should i put the rails on a 8.75" board?
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The average is about a finger width in from the edge, but it all depends on what you want and the rails themselves.

If you want only rail contact, usually place them on the board and check to see if the middle sticks up (board graphic up) as it will depend on the rails, as some are taller, some more low profile.

If you want super tech slide up into smith / feeble / hurricane or any combos, usually in a bit more, up to two fingers in from the edge - some people even ran them three fingers in from the edge back in the day, but that was on wider boards and it felt really extreme to stand on it like that.

If you would rather they are there to balance you out fully, then people put them almost on the edge of the board, but that is often more for grab tricks, which I don't think you would be needing.

I think that is about it for rail placement, but others might have different takes too.

i want the best feeble experience possible
its gonna be on an anti hero blue meanie
i am gonna probably change out these gigantic 58mm natas OJ wheels for smaller x formula or something...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: flamincheney on May 30, 2023, 06:56:00 PM
Anyone know if the Metal Fed Gall 8.5 swamp thing is the same shape at the Brian Anderson guest 8.5 (specs on most sites have the same dimensions)?  Loved the BA shape and would like to get another the same shape.

Or does Habitat run a board in this shape?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on May 30, 2023, 10:40:05 PM
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How do the Girl go27 and go52 shapes compare to the Primitive/April 8.25 shape? Really liking the April that I am currently on, but thinking about trying out Girl while they are on sale.
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The G052 has an oddly long feeling tail, like someone took a longer shape and just moved the truck 1/4" forward. The boards are definitely flatter, have more flat space after the bolts, then steeper kicks.

I have a very loose theory that all of these shapes have Prods finger prints on them. I did hear somewhere that the April 8.25 was originally a primitive shape. Anyhow, part B of my theory is that these long tail shapes were made for skating with Venture His. Ive probably skated 10-13 of these decks with every truck except for indy stds. Thunders were way too low, aces felt ok but kind of dead, but Ventures felt perfect. Really negates that heavy ghost pop feeling.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 31, 2023, 12:04:56 AM
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How do the Girl go27 and go52 shapes compare to the Primitive/April 8.25 shape? Really liking the April that I am currently on, but thinking about trying out Girl while they are on sale.
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The G052 has an oddly long feeling tail, like someone took a longer shape and just moved the truck 1/4" forward. The boards are definitely flatter, have more flat space after the bolts, then steeper kicks.
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I have a very loose theory that all of these shapes have Prods finger prints on them. I did hear somewhere that the April 8.25 was originally a primitive shape. Anyhow, part B of my theory is that these long tail shapes were made for skating with Venture His. Ive probably skated 10-13 of these decks with every truck except for indy stds. Thunders were way too low, aces felt ok but kind of dead, but Ventures felt perfect. Really negates that heavy ghost pop feeling.

I think that theory could be true. Tried that G052 with my Indys and it felt a bit weird to me. Gave it to my homie with Ventures and he loved that deck and the pop felt better for the few tricks I tried.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2023, 10:53:23 AM
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how far in should i put the rails on a 8.75" board?
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The average is about a finger width in from the edge, but it all depends on what you want and the rails themselves.

If you want only rail contact, usually place them on the board and check to see if the middle sticks up (board graphic up) as it will depend on the rails, as some are taller, some more low profile.

If you want super tech slide up into smith / feeble / hurricane or any combos, usually in a bit more, up to two fingers in from the edge - some people even ran them three fingers in from the edge back in the day, but that was on wider boards and it felt really extreme to stand on it like that.

If you would rather they are there to balance you out fully, then people put them almost on the edge of the board, but that is often more for grab tricks, which I don't think you would be needing.

I think that is about it for rail placement, but others might have different takes too.
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i want the best feeble experience possible
its gonna be on an anti hero blue meanie
i am gonna probably change out these gigantic 58mm natas OJ wheels for smaller x formula or something...


Finger width max, but you could run them a bit closer to the edge and have good results, maybe about 1 cm from the edge of the board.

I remembered I had bought a few boards second hand a while ago including a Blue Meanie with rails on it that works well for feeble and smith grinds, bottom pic.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CMzwg40FMK7/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on May 31, 2023, 10:58:51 AM
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how far in should i put the rails on a 8.75" board?
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The average is about a finger width in from the edge, but it all depends on what you want and the rails themselves.

If you want only rail contact, usually place them on the board and check to see if the middle sticks up (board graphic up) as it will depend on the rails, as some are taller, some more low profile.

If you want super tech slide up into smith / feeble / hurricane or any combos, usually in a bit more, up to two fingers in from the edge - some people even ran them three fingers in from the edge back in the day, but that was on wider boards and it felt really extreme to stand on it like that.

If you would rather they are there to balance you out fully, then people put them almost on the edge of the board, but that is often more for grab tricks, which I don't think you would be needing.

I think that is about it for rail placement, but others might have different takes too.
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i want the best feeble experience possible
its gonna be on an anti hero blue meanie
i am gonna probably change out these gigantic 58mm natas OJ wheels for smaller x formula or something...
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Finger width max, but you could run them a bit closer to the edge and have good results, maybe about 1 cm from the edge of the board.

I remembered I had bought a few boards second hand a while ago including a Blue Meanie with rails on it that works well for feeble and smith grinds, bottom pic.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CMzwg40FMK7/



that looks sick with the blue rails, wow!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on May 31, 2023, 06:20:38 PM
The “Has anyone tried these” shoes thread seems pretty dead these days so; has anyone skated Hours? Also wondering if anyone’s tried the new low top Vans x Quasi thing, forget what it’s called.

Hell, while I’m at it, has anyone skated one of the new DLX True fit boards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fat Tony on June 01, 2023, 05:27:57 AM
I just set up a new deck with the same trucks and wheels I was using on my last one and it is uneven; one wheel is off the ground until I stand on it. Last deck was an FA, this one a hockey, same size and shape. I also used new hardware and new riser pads, but doubt that would make a difference.

I’ve swapped the top bushings between them, a kingpin was a little loose so tightened that up, I’ve made sure the trucks are even tightness. The bushings seem fine and don’t have any tears, they are also the same as before. I guess it’s possible the board is warped, but not sure what the problem or fix is. It probably doesn’t matter since all wheels touch when standing on it, but it drives me nuts and is a bit in my head thinking about how it’s uneven and shouldn’t be. Any ideas?

TL:DR - wheel is off the ground, need help
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 01, 2023, 05:28:38 AM
Has anyone ever had inexplicable shit on a setup that defied all madness? Like you put wheels on shitty old bearings and on one specific setup they fly, but everywhere else they don’t?

For whatever reason I can go 30mph without batting an eye on my OJ IIIs … but only with specific no-name bearings on my Welcome board and Indy trucks. Anything else and they just don’t fly like that.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 01, 2023, 08:09:55 AM
I just set up a new deck with the same trucks and wheels I was using on my last one and it is uneven; one wheel is off the ground until I stand on it. Last deck was an FA, this one a hockey, same size and shape. I also used new hardware and new riser pads, but doubt that would make a difference.

I’ve swapped the top bushings between them, a kingpin was a little loose so tightened that up, I’ve made sure the trucks are even tightness. The bushings seem fine and don’t have any tears, they are also the same as before. I guess it’s possible the board is warped, but not sure what the problem or fix is. It probably doesn’t matter since all wheels touch when standing on it, but it drives me nuts and is a bit in my head thinking about how it’s uneven and shouldn’t be. Any ideas?

TL:DR - wheel is off the ground, need help

The deck is warped, most likely from being stored in a moist or humid place.  If you look down the length of the bottom of the board with the wheels facing up, youll see the pockets of the kick furthest away from you doesnt line up with the kick closest to you.

You can try to ask the shop for an exchange but it doesnt always work, youll most likely forget about it once its used a bit, but its annoying for sure
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on June 01, 2023, 11:17:36 AM
The “Has anyone tried these” shoes thread seems pretty dead these days so; has anyone skated Hours? Also wondering if anyone’s tried the new low top Vans x Quasi thing, forget what it’s called.

Hell, while I’m at it, has anyone skated one of the new DLX True fit boards?
I wanna know about Hours too. The G-Code remakes look super good, but I've been burnt before trying to break out of the Vans cage.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cesspool86 on June 01, 2023, 04:39:03 PM
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Ghost pop- can u truly lay the blame on equipment? Does it just mean u gotta get a stronger popping leg? Is it a board set up issue or more to do with feet setup??
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I mean I feel like you could get used to anything within reason, but I know certain changes I've tried made the first couple sessions very ghost-pop heavy. I tried some very large Conical Fulls like the cool kids recently and it felt like I was ollieing on a cruiser board.
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Steep kicks, high trucks, big wheels, long whelbase and i am in the ghost pop world. I need at least 2 of these components to be on the opposite side of the spectrum so i can hit the ground.

I with you on that.  Especially the first three.  I want my tail to hit as fast as possible
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fat Tony on June 01, 2023, 08:06:53 PM
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I just set up a new deck with the same trucks and wheels I was using on my last one and it is uneven; one wheel is off the ground until I stand on it. Last deck was an FA, this one a hockey, same size and shape. I also used new hardware and new riser pads, but doubt that would make a difference.

I’ve swapped the top bushings between them, a kingpin was a little loose so tightened that up, I’ve made sure the trucks are even tightness. The bushings seem fine and don’t have any tears, they are also the same as before. I guess it’s possible the board is warped, but not sure what the problem or fix is. It probably doesn’t matter since all wheels touch when standing on it, but it drives me nuts and is a bit in my head thinking about how it’s uneven and shouldn’t be. Any ideas?

TL:DR - wheel is off the ground, need help
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The deck is warped, most likely from being stored in a moist or humid place.  If you look down the length of the bottom of the board with the wheels facing up, youll see the pockets of the kick furthest away from you doesnt line up with the kick closest to you.

You can try to ask the shop for an exchange but it doesnt always work, youll most likely forget about it once its used a bit, but its annoying for sure

Thanks for the response. I looked at it today and the wheels make like an “X”, so sounds like it’s warped. Compared it to the last deck and it looked fine. Unfortunately some of my new ones still in plastic also look like they could be warped, so the issue isn’t with my storage inside. Came right from the manufacturer, so I may reach out to them. Not sure it really affects anything though, but my brain wants to think it does.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 02, 2023, 09:36:45 AM
Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?

I got a pair of Adidas Samba ADVs and they definitely needed breaking in as they hurt my feet. I put beech shoe tress in them for a day or two and now they feel broken in, fit better, and more comfortable. I've done this with the Vans Lizzie before, but I think the effects were less pronounced since vulcs feel mostly broken in already.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on June 02, 2023, 11:41:51 AM
Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?

i don't but i should now that you mention it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 02, 2023, 05:20:15 PM
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Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?
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i don't but i should now that you mention it


Same thing as shoe stretchers?

I had used some to stretch out shoes for a long time, even making custom attachments to make sure the big toe stretched a bit more to the side, which worked a treat for the most part.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CHoX6hvlh8j/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on June 02, 2023, 08:35:18 PM
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Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?
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i don't but i should now that you mention it
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Same thing as shoe stretchers?

I had used some to stretch out shoes for a long time, even making custom attachments to make sure the big toe stretched a bit more to the side, which worked a treat for the most part.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CHoX6hvlh8j/

yep exactly what i had in mind. and definitely worth opting for one with that kind of stretch control like you have, especially now when shoes might vary just enough to cause discomfort
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Post by: rocklobster on June 02, 2023, 08:57:35 PM
I have and they get the stretch around 60% of the way, you're going to need to walk around in them get another 20% and skate them the last 20%.

Used them on dress shoes and skate shoes, helpful if the shoes are 1/2 size too small.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: big_kev_215 on June 03, 2023, 05:10:24 PM
Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on June 03, 2023, 05:38:06 PM
Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 06:29:40 PM
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Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
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Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607


Yeah they look like they are the ones I get and they work well in Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They come as is, no marketing, pack or anything and I get a few at a time when I see them here in AU.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on June 04, 2023, 06:41:33 AM
Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I blew out the pivot cups in my old pair of ventures. I went down to the local and all they had were modus pivot cups. I got them and they surprisingly fit really well and I had no dramas with them at all. They lasted the remainder of the truck life. Paid 1$ each from memory
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on June 04, 2023, 06:53:06 AM
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Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
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Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607
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Yeah they look like they are the ones I get and they work well in Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They come as is, no marketing, pack or anything and I get a few at a time when I see them here in AU.

Do you think Ace is a bad idea, a lot of people rave about them.

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2023, 04:52:44 PM
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Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
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Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607
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Yeah they look like they are the ones I get and they work well in Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They come as is, no marketing, pack or anything and I get a few at a time when I see them here in AU.
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Do you think Ace is a bad idea, a lot of people rave about them.


I don't really have any experience with fixing Ace trucks, besides grinding down the kinpgin on one set, the other sets I have are still fine, nothing needed in the fix department.

I do recall others saying the Ace pivot cups are a different size, but haven't even looked to be honest.  AF1 are smaller, but Classic might be pretty much the same generic size as everything else, but I just don't know.

The one set of aftermarket set of Ace pivot cups I have at the indoor park shop hasn't been touched since the day I put them in the cabinet, so I should go have a look at them.




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Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 
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I blew out the pivot cups in my old pair of ventures. I went down to the local and all they had were modus pivot cups. I got them and they surprisingly fit really well and I had no dramas with them at all. They lasted the remainder of the truck life. Paid 1$ each from memory


Modus pivot cups are another good one - were they blue or black that you got?  We just don't really see them often here, even though they are an Aussie brand, but they were another one that seemed to have a bag of them so people could buy as many as they wanted from that.  Then next lot that came in were the same as the DLX ones, black this time not blue, so I guess anyone could be bringing them in and saying they were from brand X or whatever.

Here is an old stock image of some, from a shop based in the same state as where they come from:

https://www.starsurf.com.au/products/modus-pivot-cups-for-trucks


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0433/6525/products/Modus_Pivot_Cups_20pack.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on June 06, 2023, 12:14:49 AM
Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?

I got a pair of Adidas Samba ADVs and they definitely needed breaking in as they hurt my feet. I put beech shoe tress in them for a day or two and now they feel broken in, fit better, and more comfortable. I've done this with the Vans Lizzie before, but I think the effects were less pronounced since vulcs feel mostly broken in already.

i do..coz i got wide feet..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on June 06, 2023, 02:04:43 AM
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Just curious; does anyone else use shoe trees to help break in their shoes?

I got a pair of Adidas Samba ADVs and they definitely needed breaking in as they hurt my feet. I put beech shoe tress in them for a day or two and now they feel broken in, fit better, and more comfortable. I've done this with the Vans Lizzie before, but I think the effects were less pronounced since vulcs feel mostly broken in already.
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i do..coz i got wide feet..

I should get on this.
What I do now, is put a ziplock bag full of water inside the shoe, and pop it in the freezer overnight. But that’s always a bit of a hassle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on June 06, 2023, 02:17:09 PM
Anyone skated the Li-ning Ellingtons? How are they?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzle on June 06, 2023, 04:34:34 PM
How tight do vert guys run their trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 06, 2023, 05:00:10 PM
@yourbreakfsat Curious how you like the Samba compared to a 440?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 06, 2023, 06:42:26 PM
@yourbreakfsat Curious how you like the Samba compared to a 440?

I don't plan on skating the Sambas, but fit and comfort wise I personally find it superior.

The fit is snug and narrow, which I personally like since it makes the shoe feels very secure to my feet. I find the 440s to have a lot of room in them, so much so that I could probably go down half a size like Converse.

The Samba insole is superior in everyway; it's not a useless strip of foam that moves around in the shoe like the 440. I also like the arch support the Sambas (and Adidas in general) have. It's still a thin insole though, so most of the comfort comes from the mid/outsole which I find gets the job done.

I find that the Sambas are a thin cupsole though, so something like the Adidas Tyshawns and Nike SB Dunks are going to have much more cushion.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 06, 2023, 09:29:40 PM
Ah thanks for the reply! I found the stock insole to be pretty minimal in the Sambas and would run my Superfeet in them but the fit is definitely more close to foot. I'll probably try some to skate soon. I've been told that the normal model skates and lasts very similar too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on June 07, 2023, 02:40:28 AM
Black pants with white and gum shoes, whack or cool?

I'm not sure. If the shoes were all white then it's okay but the gum outsole is throwing me off of a bit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 07, 2023, 03:38:24 AM
I've been skating 808 for the last 6 months or so but I'm tempted of trying 306, any comments on those?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on June 07, 2023, 06:15:16 AM
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Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
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Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607
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Yeah they look like they are the ones I get and they work well in Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They come as is, no marketing, pack or anything and I get a few at a time when I see them here in AU.
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Do you think Ace is a bad idea, a lot of people rave about them.
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I don't really have any experience with fixing Ace trucks, besides grinding down the kinpgin on one set, the other sets I have are still fine, nothing needed in the fix department.

I do recall others saying the Ace pivot cups are a different size, but haven't even looked to be honest.  AF1 are smaller, but Classic might be pretty much the same generic size as everything else, but I just don't know.

The one set of aftermarket set of Ace pivot cups I have at the indoor park shop hasn't been touched since the day I put them in the cabinet, so I should go have a look at them.




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I blew out the pivot cups in my old pair of ventures. I went down to the local and all they had were modus pivot cups. I got them and they surprisingly fit really well and I had no dramas with them at all. They lasted the remainder of the truck life. Paid 1$ each from memory
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Modus pivot cups are another good one - were they blue or black that you got?  We just don't really see them often here, even though they are an Aussie brand, but they were another one that seemed to have a bag of them so people could buy as many as they wanted from that.  Then next lot that came in were the same as the DLX ones, black this time not blue, so I guess anyone could be bringing them in and saying they were from brand X or whatever.

Here is an old stock image of some, from a shop based in the same state as where they come from:

https://www.starsurf.com.au/products/modus-pivot-cups-for-trucks


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0433/6525/products/Modus_Pivot_Cups_20pack.jpg)

They were the blue ones, exactly as pictured. Got them from Beyond skate in perth roughly 6months ago
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 07, 2023, 10:28:49 AM
how long until F4's are $50 a set?

some shops already have them priced close to $45 which is completely ridiculous
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 07, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
how long until F4's are $50 a set?

some shops already have them priced close to $45 which is completely ridiculous
Here in Czech Republic they're like $59
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on June 07, 2023, 11:05:32 AM
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how long until F4's are $50 a set?

some shops already have them priced close to $45 which is completely ridiculous
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Here in Czech Republic they're like $59

i just paid $65 CAD for them which is close to 50 USD ( that was with all taxes in)
I have seen some places selling them for $72 before tax though.

https://www.zumiez.ca/spitfire-formula-four-classic-black-white-54mm-99a-skateboard-wheels.html
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 07, 2023, 12:08:25 PM
Inflation isn't going to magically stop so.... not long. It's natural. If you ever wanna feel fucked go enter the items from your grocery bill into a CPI calculator set to like 1990.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 07, 2023, 12:11:19 PM
Inflation isn't going to magically stop so.... not long. It's natural. If you ever wanna feel fucked go enter the items from your grocery bill into a CPI calculator set to like 1990.

I prefer to blame the fatcats at DLX.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 07, 2023, 01:08:14 PM
@yourbreakfsat Curious how you like the Samba compared to a 440?

Samba ADV is almost like a slipper fit; very trim, molds to your foot shape well, fast flick break-in (probably at the cost of some durability), and fantastic boardfeel. Elastic keeps the tongue centered and snug if you like that. There’s usually enough room to swap in a slightly thicker insole depending on your foot as well.

Personally I find myself feeling a bit “exposed” skating a bigger board in them, like the feeling of skating barefoot or in socks, but otherwise I really like ’em.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 07, 2023, 06:25:19 PM
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Inflation isn't going to magically stop so.... not long. It's natural. If you ever wanna feel fucked go enter the items from your grocery bill into a CPI calculator set to like 1990.
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I prefer to blame the fatcats at DLX.


Ha yeah, like "Damn it Jim!  Why can't you stop Frank taking all the profits and bumping up the price of everything, just so DLX can make ends meet?!?"


* Prices of wheels and everything else is going to keep going up no matter what happens.  Enjoy it while you can, or stock up when you see sales or discounts, so you can still keep riding exactly what you want.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 08, 2023, 01:15:10 AM
I'm utterly tempted to try those swear white/green Alexis shoes but I'm terrified since I've been only skating 808 for the last months. Anybody tried both?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on June 08, 2023, 01:28:14 AM
how long until F4's are $50 a set?

some shops already have them priced close to $45 which is completely ridiculous

You guys are crybabies, they’re $79 many places in Europe. Stock up if you think prices are going to rise further, or look elsewhere for wheels.

Edit: maybe a bit harsh. Sorry. But I foresee them breaking a 100 even in 2 years.

But yeah stock up with current prices, or buy used if available.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 08, 2023, 11:33:50 AM
do pro's still get a cut when their boards go on sale?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 08, 2023, 11:37:18 AM
I've been skating 808 for the last 6 months or so but I'm tempted of trying 306, any comments on those?

I havent skated 808s but ive gone through 5 pairs of 306 and 1 pair of 1010. All i hear is the 808s are thicker and more narrow than 1010s, if that's the case then you're really going from one extreme to the other. The 306 sole isnt the thinnest vulc sole but it breaks in pretty easy, doesnt last super long though. I always wear the sole flat before the suede rips.  Also imo the 306s fit pretty wide, my feet love the fit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on June 08, 2023, 11:48:01 AM
do pro's still get a cut when their boards go on sale?
How do the brands operate?
Do they sell to distributors/shops or they give them on consignment and get paid later when the sales are done?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on June 09, 2023, 05:01:30 AM
Has anyone skated rollerblading wheels? I think they use the same bearings than in skateboards? How was it?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on June 09, 2023, 06:26:59 AM
What are the baggiest regular carhartts? NOT the WIP. 

I got a pair of deadstock US-made double knee canvas pants, and I really like the cut.

Looking for something similar in size, but thinner/single knee
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 09, 2023, 07:44:12 AM
What are the baggiest regular carhartts? NOT the WIP. 

I got a pair of deadstock US-made double knee canvas pants, and I really like the cut.

Looking for something similar in size, but thinner/single knee

Their loose fit is the baggiest fit they offer on standard stuff.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IpathCats on June 09, 2023, 07:45:55 AM
 Can anyone comment on the fit of the "regular fit" shirts/polos from polar.

I know it sounds silly and is probably TTS, I just know a lot of their stuff looks kinda baggy in the wild. Idk if people are just buying a size up or what.

I wear an XL shirt/top usually. I just don't want this polo to be gigantic on accident.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 09, 2023, 08:10:46 AM
Has anyone skated rollerblading wheels? I think they use the same bearings than in skateboards? How was it?

The bearings are the same. But there are a lot of different rollerblade wheels. The guys in my local have large but slim wheels. They feel insanely soft and I can't imagine that these wheels will fit on skateboard trucks.
But there are definitely other rollerblade wheels which can fit on a skateboard. But why should we do that? ^^
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 10, 2023, 03:58:59 PM
What is the logic behind shovel nose decks? Seems like they're harder to flick and you don't see that many ledge skaters on em so it's not more slide room
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 10, 2023, 06:02:39 PM
What is the logic behind shovel nose decks? Seems like they're harder to flick and you don't see that many ledge skaters on em so it's not more slide room


Might not be the only reason, but T Mo made a shovel shape board so he could actually shovel out the spots he skated, often drains or other places like "under the bridge" DIY types that accumulate rubbish and it was easier to have a shovel on the end of your skateboard than bring a shovel to the spot, then just bang it off and go skate.

I don't recall him doing a whole lot of nose variations in clips or anything, but that seems to be what worked for him.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on June 11, 2023, 02:17:55 AM
What is the logic behind shovel nose decks? Seems like they're harder to flick and you don't see that many ledge skaters on em so it's not more slide room

I've skated some "shovel-like" noses and there's definitely more stable slide surface area from it. However, the "harder to flick" determines on the steepness of the kick paired with a person's technique. I have an aggressive flick and shovel noses flicked quite well most of the time. Save for the occasional whiff because it was too much for my tired legs on some sessions.

Anyways, I think the tech skaters gravitate to smaller size boards where you see shovel far less frequently.  Shovels are usually seen on 8.25 + from my personal observation.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 11, 2023, 05:58:04 AM
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I've been skating 808 for the last 6 months or so but I'm tempted of trying 306, any comments on those?
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I havent skated 808s but ive gone through 5 pairs of 306 and 1 pair of 1010. All i hear is the 808s are thicker and more narrow than 1010s, if that's the case then you're really going from one extreme to the other. The 306 sole isnt the thinnest vulc sole but it breaks in pretty easy, doesnt last super long though. I always wear the sole flat before the suede rips.  Also imo the 306s fit pretty wide, my feet love the fit.
You're right, I tried 306 and felt like nothing. I guess the thinner I can go are 508
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on June 11, 2023, 07:28:32 AM
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The bearings are the same. But there are a lot of different rollerblade wheels. The guys in my local have large but slim wheels. They feel insanely soft and I can't imagine that these wheels will fit on skateboard trucks.
But there are definitely other rollerblade wheels which can fit on a skateboard. But why should we do that? ^^

My ex used some cruiser wheels I had kicking about on her quads for a while for street/parks. Think they were 78a, 58mm no clue why I had two sets lol. I forget what her derby wheels where but I think they were harder, but she has to keep them clean for derby. No clue if that will help.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 11, 2023, 08:37:52 AM
What is the logic behind shovel nose decks? Seems like they're harder to flick and you don't see that many ledge skaters on em so it's not more slide room

I'm a big noseslide guy and enjoy the extra real estate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 11, 2023, 09:03:19 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/JyvsDxf/IMG-20230611-105052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k94SN3R)

Is this really real?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 11, 2023, 06:00:11 PM
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do pro's still get a cut when their boards go on sale?
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How do the brands operate?
Do they sell to distributors/shops or they give them on consignment and get paid later when the sales are done?


Totally just guessing here, but I think if it is still calculated on number of boards sold, it is at the distributor production and sales end, not the retail shop end, which they would have no way to track sales or anything to that degree.

Many boards are pre booked, which means you get a really good idea of how many and of which boards will be wanted, but I would also guess that they would make a lot more then only what is pre booked to have ready to restock as needed too.

That said, others on here have said some brands prioritise their riders, so the most common selling shapes will get the most productive guy's name on the next run of boards, so he would get the most from board royalties, but compared to when pro skateboarders made money from their pro board, nowdays the hardgoods market is almost non existent in terms of generating revenue for the professional skateboarders, with way more coming in from clothing, shoe, or other things like energy drink or similar sponsorships.

Even if someone got $1.00 per pro board sold, that is still not a whole lot, given some brands don't do regular drops, so I doubt it would be even a K or so a month, unless they were really big time and ran their own show, so to speak, eg Nigel.


Anyone else with more current or relevant knowledge, please put me in my place.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 11, 2023, 07:27:13 PM
Setup a Cleaver a while back and it felt like a less aggressive FA / Hockey, looking for any brand that carries a similar shape.

- Medium concave
- Full kicks but not too square
- Standard wheelbase and length
- BBS or Clutch, no PS Stix

I know Clutch 'O' shape has a full nose but getting that specific shape is hit or miss since shop and brands will use a combination of the 'K' (standard popsicle) and 'O' shape, but mostly the 'K' shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on June 13, 2023, 07:27:53 AM
aight maybe this goes in madness support but idk.

i see some folks (on slap, mostly) run a small board to learn tricks on and a bigger board as a daily driver.  when you learn tricks on the little board, you can just bring em to the big board? Or is it like you learn to do a tre on the little board for fun and dont really skate that way on the main board?

i guess what i dont understand is how learning a trick on a smaller board than you usually ride wouldnt fuck up your timing etc on the bigger, “normal” board. no hate at all, just curious
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on June 13, 2023, 07:51:33 AM
aight maybe this goes in madness support but idk.

i see some folks (on slap, mostly) run a small board to learn tricks on and a bigger board as a daily driver.  when you learn tricks on the little board, you can just bring em to the big board? Or is it like you learn to do a tre on the little board for fun and dont really skate that way on the main board?

i guess what i dont understand is how learning a trick on a smaller board than you usually ride wouldnt fuck up your timing etc on the bigger, “normal” board. no hate at all, just curious

i try to stay on the same board for the most part. there is nothing really i can do on one setup that i cant do on another.

basically the reason i need 3 setups is

1. is for super rough spots (cruiser)
2. is a setup with rails
3. is my main setup without rails i do 95% of my skating on...

that might change though cause I am really enjoying riding with rails now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on June 13, 2023, 07:55:15 AM
aight maybe this goes in madness support but idk.

i see some folks (on slap, mostly) run a small board to learn tricks on and a bigger board as a daily driver.  when you learn tricks on the little board, you can just bring em to the big board? Or is it like you learn to do a tre on the little board for fun and dont really skate that way on the main board?

i guess what i dont understand is how learning a trick on a smaller board than you usually ride wouldnt fuck up your timing etc on the bigger, “normal” board. no hate at all, just curious

Wut?? That’s actually insane. You only hear about it on Slap because real skaters IRL don’t do that. No skater is out there practicing tre flips on a 7.75 “learner” board before taking it to the streets on their 8.25 “daily driver”board, because that’s insane and ain’t nobody got time for that. Just learn to skate the damn 8.25!

Slap is so insane with the gear madness, specs, and different set ups it drives me crazy sometimes lol. Just skate
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on June 13, 2023, 07:59:42 AM

Wut?? That’s actually insane. You only hear about it on Slap because real skaters IRL don’t do that. No skater is out there practicing tre flips on a 7.75 “learner” board before taking it to the streets on their 8.25 “daily driver”board, because that’s insane and ain’t nobody got time for that. Just learn to skate the damn 8.25!

Slap is so insane with the gear madness, specs, and different set ups it drives me crazy sometimes lol. Just skate




i try to stay on the same board for the most part. there is nothing really i can do on one setup that i cant do on another.

basically the reason i need 3 setups is

1. is for super rough spots (cruiser)
2. is a setup with rails
3. is my main setup without rails i do 95% of my skating on...

that might change though cause I am really enjoying riding with rails now.

cool, this makes sense to me. I know slap can go crazy about gear, but there is also a lot of wisdom here. Appreciate the replies
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 13, 2023, 09:57:02 AM
Slap is for sure a subset of the real world. I will see kids at the skatepark ripping anything and everything on like, some random 8.75 shop deck that they just decided is their shape. I know plenty of people that really know nothing about wheelbases or differences between woodshops. I'd consider someone pretty nerdy if they know the heights of trucks and the effects of a wheelbase and actually bring it up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on June 13, 2023, 10:18:23 AM
This may have been asked before but what exactly is the hype behind people running bearings shieldless?

I have an old set of abec 7s laying around I was gonna just pilfer the crowns out of if I break others on my daily drivers.
I decided to run em in a spare set of wheels with no shields.  Had a bearing clog up and sieze on my after like 2 hours, and they were perfectly clean with no lube before using em. 

I just do not get the why people run em this way at all.
I have heard people say sound but like... I have some old Swiss with shields on that are loud as fuck it can't just be this.   
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on June 13, 2023, 10:23:01 AM
This may have been asked before but what exactly is the hype behind people running bearings shieldless?

I have an old set of abec 7s laying around I was gonna just pilfer the crowns out of if I break others on my daily drivers.
I decided to run em in a spare set of wheels with no shields.  Had a bearing clog up and sieze on my after like 2 hours, and they were perfectly clean with no lube before using em. 

I just do not get the why people run em this way at all.
I have heard people say sound but like... I have some old Swiss with shields on that are loud as fuck it can't just be this.

i think people pop em to clean the bearing or whatever and then cant/dont care to pop em back in.


ive also heard “if you leave the shields off, whatever gets in the bearing can also get out”

i ran shieldless bearings for a minute because i was given them for free. probably wouldn’t do it again.

does make the wheels sound cool tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on June 13, 2023, 10:40:38 AM
Slap is for sure a subset of the real world. I will see kids at the skatepark ripping anything and everything on like, some random 8.75 shop deck that they just decided is their shape. I know plenty of people that really know nothing about wheelbases or differences between woodshops. I'd consider someone pretty nerdy if they know the heights of trucks and the effects of a wheelbase and actually bring it up.

i mean i have street fighter shit in my signature...  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on June 13, 2023, 01:22:01 PM
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This may have been asked before but what exactly is the hype behind people running bearings shieldless?

I have an old set of abec 7s laying around I was gonna just pilfer the crowns out of if I break others on my daily drivers.
I decided to run em in a spare set of wheels with no shields.  Had a bearing clog up and sieze on my after like 2 hours, and they were perfectly clean with no lube before using em. 

I just do not get the why people run em this way at all.
I have heard people say sound but like... I have some old Swiss with shields on that are loud as fuck it can't just be this.
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i think people pop em to clean the bearing or whatever and then cant/dont care to pop em back in.


ive also heard “if you leave the shields off, whatever gets in the bearing can also get out”

i ran shieldless bearings for a minute because i was given them for free. probably wouldn’t do it again.

does make the wheels sound cool tho

I do it cus when I first pop in new bearings its so silent on the roll, I hate it. So I pop them off and forget to pop them back on later once they've had a few sessions to break in, I'm always buying the cheap stuff tho.

But if I balled out on Swiss I'd prob keep them on, let them break in, and try not to get too bothered during the fist few sessions where its all silent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 13, 2023, 01:30:14 PM
One reason for loud bearings is similar to loud freehubs on a bike- so people in front of you can hear you and move over if they know you're coming. But, I think people are too distracted these days to notice much of anything.

One time there was a homeless man peeing on a street corner near where I worked in SF. It was raining and a girl on her phone walked right into and out of the pee stream and must have just thought it was rain.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on June 13, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
One reason for loud bearings is similar to loud freehubs on a bike- so people in front of you can hear you and move over if they know you're coming. But, I think people are too distracted these days to notice much of anything.

One time there was a homeless man peeing on a street corner near where I worked in SF. It was raining and a girl on her phone walked right into and out of the pee stream and must have just thought it was rain.

Maybe its east coast crust talking here, but on the streets/sidewalks I can't imagine a bearing that actually still spins at all would be louder than the hard ass wheel itself.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 13, 2023, 02:50:45 PM
My theory on shield-less bearings is that, at some point when we were young, we had our bearings seize up and we removed the shields in order to service it and get it working again, never reinstalling them. We all became used to that sound and now - for many of us - loud, shieldless bearings are the norm. Simple as.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on June 13, 2023, 03:55:12 PM
Y'all are nutty
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cesspool86 on June 13, 2023, 04:01:57 PM
My favorite reason to pop the shields aside from being the g way to do it, is that when my board goes in a puddle I can blow the water out. Sounds crazy but cup your hand over the outside of the wheel and blow in and see all the crap go on your axle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 13, 2023, 05:11:01 PM
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One reason for loud bearings is similar to loud freehubs on a bike- so people in front of you can hear you and move over if they know you're coming. But, I think people are too distracted these days to notice much of anything.

One time there was a homeless man peeing on a street corner near where I worked in SF. It was raining and a girl on her phone walked right into and out of the pee stream and must have just thought it was rain.
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Maybe its east coast crust talking here, but on the streets/sidewalks I can't imagine a bearing that actually still spins at all would be louder than the hard ass wheel itself.

I could have 30 shieldless bearings spinning on my board and I still won’t hear it over the clack of my wheels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 14, 2023, 02:28:54 AM
I feel that the shieldless bearing is a USA thing mainly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 14, 2023, 04:25:12 AM
I noticed when I do powerslides or reverts my wheels can get stuck, as in they turn itself tighter. I don't use spacers but maybe they would solve that? Or is something wrong with the bearings? My trucks can't be the problem because they are new.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: commander jameson on June 14, 2023, 05:25:49 AM
I noticed when I do powerslides or reverts my wheels can get stuck, as in they turn itself tighter. I don't use spacers but maybe they would solve that? Or is something wrong with the bearings? My trucks can't be the problem because they are new.

What you describe is usually due to axle slip. It shouldn't happen or happen to lesser degree if you use spacers.
Sometimes bearings can get unseated in wheel resulting in wobbly wheel spin or wheel feeling stuck.
Whatever the reason it is annoyance because to fix it one needs to get skate tool and unscrew axle nut a bit or reposition bearings which is even bigger pain in the ass. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on June 14, 2023, 08:45:55 AM
why come primitive doesnt branch out and create a sister company similar to girl/chocolate, baker/deathwish, fa/hockey?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 14, 2023, 09:11:04 AM
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I noticed when I do powerslides or reverts my wheels can get stuck, as in they turn itself tighter. I don't use spacers but maybe they would solve that? Or is something wrong with the bearings? My trucks can't be the problem because they are new.
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What you describe is usually due to axle slip. It shouldn't happen or happen to lesser degree if you use spacers.
Sometimes bearings can get unseated in wheel resulting in wobbly wheel spin or wheel feeling stuck.
Whatever the reason it is annoyance because to fix it one needs to get skate tool and unscrew axle nut a bit or reposition bearings which is even bigger pain in the ass.


Yep, definitely those two, but in this day and age, I don't really see very many slipped axles, but I do hear more and more of wheels that have bearings moving in them.  There is even a whole thread about it now:


Bearings moving in the bearing seat thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125264.0


Some wheels I have / had before I took them off, I do the push and pull method after things like smith grinds, or anything that put force on the wheel that moved it one way or other as it would just stop spinning and feel tight on the axle.  What I did was put the board on its side, stand with two feet pressed against the wheel closest to the ground and pull the wheel closest to me up, then push down on it, both hands firmly on the wheel with my palms sort of cupping it.

It went from zero play to a mm or two of wiggle room and I got used to having to do this a lot, before getting over it and taking the wheels off.

As per that thread, my solution with wheels like that was to use Race Reds or other similar internal bearing spacer type of setup, tighten them down so there was no movement in the middle, but as per how those sort of bearings operate, the bearings and wheels still spun freely and it stopped the bearing from being dislodged or moving in the bearing seat of the wheels.

If you don't tighten them right down (as per manufacturers instructions) then it won't do the job as intended, but it works better than having a separate spacer, which often is the wrong size or just doesn't fit well, with the bearings still able to move in the wheel.


Anyway, that might be a bit out there as it is well past midnight here, but if it doesn't make sense, let me know and I will make a video about it or something.


*  Meant to ask, what trucks and what wheels, and even what bearings do you have in them?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 14, 2023, 09:32:12 AM
why come primitive doesnt branch out and create a sister company similar to girl/chocolate, baker/deathwish, fa/hockey?

Probably because the market for skateboard companies is absolutely saturated and Primitive is constantly having super sales in order to move all their unsold product.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on June 14, 2023, 09:40:54 AM
My theory on shield-less bearings is that, at some point when we were young, we had our bearings seize up and we removed the shields in order to service it and get it working again, never reinstalling them. We all became used to that sound and now - for many of us - loud, shieldless bearings are the norm. Simple as.


You can reinstall bearing shields?!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 14, 2023, 10:38:16 AM
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My theory on shield-less bearings is that, at some point when we were young, we had our bearings seize up and we removed the shields in order to service it and get it working again, never reinstalling them. We all became used to that sound and now - for many of us - loud, shieldless bearings are the norm. Simple as.
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You can reinstall bearing shields?!

With God, all things are possible.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 14, 2023, 11:03:29 AM
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My theory on shield-less bearings is that, at some point when we were young, we had our bearings seize up and we removed the shields in order to service it and get it working again, never reinstalling them. We all became used to that sound and now - for many of us - loud, shieldless bearings are the norm. Simple as.
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You can reinstall bearing shields?!
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With God, all things are possible.
So jot that down
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on June 14, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
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My theory on shield-less bearings is that, at some point when we were young, we had our bearings seize up and we removed the shields in order to service it and get it working again, never reinstalling them. We all became used to that sound and now - for many of us - loud, shieldless bearings are the norm. Simple as.
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You can reinstall bearing shields?!
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With God, all things are possible.
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So jot that down


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Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 14, 2023, 03:19:42 PM
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I noticed when I do powerslides or reverts my wheels can get stuck, as in they turn itself tighter. I don't use spacers but maybe they would solve that? Or is something wrong with the bearings? My trucks can't be the problem because they are new.
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What you describe is usually due to axle slip. It shouldn't happen or happen to lesser degree if you use spacers.
Sometimes bearings can get unseated in wheel resulting in wobbly wheel spin or wheel feeling stuck.
Whatever the reason it is annoyance because to fix it one needs to get skate tool and unscrew axle nut a bit or reposition bearings which is even bigger pain in the ass.
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Yep, definitely those two, but in this day and age, I don't really see very many slipped axles, but I do hear more and more of wheels that have bearings moving in them.  There is even a whole thread about it now:


Bearings moving in the bearing seat thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125264.0


Some wheels I have / had before I took them off, I do the push and pull method after things like smith grinds, or anything that put force on the wheel that moved it one way or other as it would just stop spinning and feel tight on the axle.  What I did was put the board on its side, stand with two feet pressed against the wheel closest to the ground and pull the wheel closest to me up, then push down on it, both hands firmly on the wheel with my palms sort of cupping it.

It went from zero play to a mm or two of wiggle room and I got used to having to do this a lot, before getting over it and taking the wheels off.

As per that thread, my solution with wheels like that was to use Race Reds or other similar internal bearing spacer type of setup, tighten them down so there was no movement in the middle, but as per how those sort of bearings operate, the bearings and wheels still spun freely and it stopped the bearing from being dislodged or moving in the bearing seat of the wheels.

If you don't tighten them right down (as per manufacturers instructions) then it won't do the job as intended, but it works better than having a separate spacer, which often is the wrong size or just doesn't fit well, with the bearings still able to move in the wheel.


Anyway, that might be a bit out there as it is well past midnight here, but if it doesn't make sense, let me know and I will make a video about it or something.


*  Meant to ask, what trucks and what wheels, and even what bearings do you have in them?

Aight Brimmo, so I have 52mm Conicals with Blurs Blue Bearings on Indy 144 Forged Hollows.
Wheels and bearings are 4 months old and with these trucks I only had my second session. I will clean my wheels and try some Indy spacers I have laying around.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 14, 2023, 06:56:50 PM
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I noticed when I do powerslides or reverts my wheels can get stuck, as in they turn itself tighter. I don't use spacers but maybe they would solve that? Or is something wrong with the bearings? My trucks can't be the problem because they are new.
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What you describe is usually due to axle slip. It shouldn't happen or happen to lesser degree if you use spacers.
Sometimes bearings can get unseated in wheel resulting in wobbly wheel spin or wheel feeling stuck.
Whatever the reason it is annoyance because to fix it one needs to get skate tool and unscrew axle nut a bit or reposition bearings which is even bigger pain in the ass.
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Yep, definitely those two, but in this day and age, I don't really see very many slipped axles, but I do hear more and more of wheels that have bearings moving in them.  There is even a whole thread about it now:


Bearings moving in the bearing seat thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125264.0


Some wheels I have / had before I took them off, I do the push and pull method after things like smith grinds, or anything that put force on the wheel that moved it one way or other as it would just stop spinning and feel tight on the axle.  What I did was put the board on its side, stand with two feet pressed against the wheel closest to the ground and pull the wheel closest to me up, then push down on it, both hands firmly on the wheel with my palms sort of cupping it.

It went from zero play to a mm or two of wiggle room and I got used to having to do this a lot, before getting over it and taking the wheels off.

As per that thread, my solution with wheels like that was to use Race Reds or other similar internal bearing spacer type of setup, tighten them down so there was no movement in the middle, but as per how those sort of bearings operate, the bearings and wheels still spun freely and it stopped the bearing from being dislodged or moving in the bearing seat of the wheels.

If you don't tighten them right down (as per manufacturers instructions) then it won't do the job as intended, but it works better than having a separate spacer, which often is the wrong size or just doesn't fit well, with the bearings still able to move in the wheel.


Anyway, that might be a bit out there as it is well past midnight here, but if it doesn't make sense, let me know and I will make a video about it or something.


*  Meant to ask, what trucks and what wheels, and even what bearings do you have in them?
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Aight Brimmo, so I have 52mm Conicals with Blurs Blue Bearings on Indy 144 Forged Hollows.
Wheels and bearings are 4 months old and with these trucks I only had my second session. I will clean my wheels and try some Indy spacers I have laying around.


Old mate in the other thread had success with that - the cleaning of all surfaces of bearing and inside wheels in his Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so hopefully that sorts that out.

I had meant to put in there, I have had more issues with softer wheels than with normal harder wheels, but it could happen to almost any wheel, bearing, truck combo.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 15, 2023, 01:57:38 PM
Anybody know who presses the Element decks that aren't made by BBS?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on June 15, 2023, 02:33:42 PM
Anybody feel much difference between a 9” & 8.75? Im gonna size down for a more nimble setup and thinking either 8.75 or 8.625..

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on June 15, 2023, 03:58:56 PM
Anybody know who presses the Element decks that aren't made by BBS?


AS far as I know (besides EU which has a separate deal and Element boards there are on HLC wood) there are only BBS and China made boards, or at least those that have the sticker "Made in China" on them. 

Unknown woodshop, different to other brands that have "Made in China" on them.

Seems like every other day there is a different feeling and looking board out of China, so I don't doubt there are numerous unknown woodshops there as well.


The people who have skated them say they often have weird shapes and dimensions, at least the ones we have around here in AU but they still skate ok, quite simple construction and concave, not at all like Dwindle, BBS or any other main woodshop when comparing them, if that helps.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 15, 2023, 04:06:33 PM
Anybody feel much difference between a 9” & 8.75? Im gonna size down for a more nimble setup and thinking either 8.75 or 8.625..


For the most part, the 9" boards are usually longer in overall length and wheelbase, than both the 8.75 and 8.625 but depending on the brand or woodshop, some can have the exact same dimensions, just scaled down too.

BBS and some others are more often longer the wider they go.

HLC is 14.25 and 32 long for everything.

PS Stix has much the same for both.


The DLX (BBS) boards actually change a bit, so the 9 is usually 33 with 15" wb, the 8.75 is tapered with 14.6 wb and the 8.625 is longer overall with 14.75 wb and stays straight through the rail.


Personal preference has a lot to do with it as well, but what have you been riding and what are you thinking of getting?


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 15, 2023, 07:11:27 PM
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Anybody know who presses the Element decks that aren't made by BBS?
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AS far as I know (besides EU which has a separate deal and Element boards there are on HLC wood) there are only BBS and China made boards, or at least those that have the sticker "Made in China" on them. 

Unknown woodshop, different to other brands that have "Made in China" on them.

Seems like every other day there is a different feeling and looking board out of China, so I don't doubt there are numerous unknown woodshops there as well.


The people who have skated them say they often have weird shapes and dimensions, at least the ones we have around here in AU but they still skate ok, quite simple construction and concave, not at all like Dwindle, BBS or any other main woodshop when comparing them, if that helps.


thank you!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on June 16, 2023, 02:29:45 AM
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Anybody feel much difference between a 9” & 8.75? Im gonna size down for a more nimble setup and thinking either 8.75 or 8.625..
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For the most part, the 9" boards are usually longer in overall length and wheelbase, than both the 8.75 and 8.625 but depending on the brand or woodshop, some can have the exact same dimensions, just scaled down too.

BBS and some others are more often longer the wider they go.

HLC is 14.25 and 32 long for everything.

PS Stix has much the same for both.


The DLX (BBS) boards actually change a bit, so the 9 is usually 33 with 15" wb, the 8.75 is tapered with 14.6 wb and the 8.625 is longer overall with 14.75 wb and stays straight through the rail.


Personal preference has a lot to do with it as well, but what have you been riding and what are you thinking of getting?

I've been on a poetic 9" this spring, normal length with 14,5wb. Feels great but at the same time a little too wide and heavy. Going back down to my indy 159 will def help with the weight.

I think ill go with poetic or polar in the future as theyre always available here. They have similar measurements too I think.

Damn last year I rode the antihero orange eagle shape as I thought I needed the extra room for balance but the thing doesn't turn..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 16, 2023, 03:06:36 PM
can anybody else just not skate in shorts at all?

i've been skating for 20 years but when i put shorts on it looks like i just started that day. it throws me off that bad
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: barraga on June 16, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
For the cons ctas does anyone know if i should go half or full size down?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daydream on June 16, 2023, 08:52:16 PM
can anybody else just not skate in shorts at all?

i've been skating for 20 years but when i put shorts on it looks like i just started that day. it throws me off that bad
yeah I can relate. Have a comfort level with the kit, and it certain will mentally mess with you
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on June 16, 2023, 10:39:42 PM
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can anybody else just not skate in shorts at all?

i've been skating for 20 years but when i put shorts on it looks like i just started that day. it throws me off that bad
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yeah I can relate. Have a comfort level with the kit, and it certain will mentally mess with you

Every session in shorts results in the worst shinners - it's just facts.

Can't live the Lucas Puig life, as idyllic as it appears.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 16, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
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aight maybe this goes in madness support but idk.

i see some folks (on slap, mostly) run a small board to learn tricks on and a bigger board as a daily driver.  when you learn tricks on the little board, you can just bring em to the big board? Or is it like you learn to do a tre on the little board for fun and dont really skate that way on the main board?

i guess what i dont understand is how learning a trick on a smaller board than you usually ride wouldnt fuck up your timing etc on the bigger, “normal” board. no hate at all, just curious
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Wut?? That’s actually insane. You only hear about it on Slap because real skaters IRL don’t do that. No skater is out there practicing tre flips on a 7.75 “learner” board before taking it to the streets on their 8.25 “daily driver”board, because that’s insane and ain’t nobody got time for that. Just learn to skate the damn 8.25!

Slap is so insane with the gear madness, specs, and different set ups it drives me crazy sometimes lol. Just skate

I definitely agree to stick with a size for at least the life span of trucks.

Gains will come less if you're changing everything up all the time. Bloard size really don't matter as much as wheel base truck choice and wheel shape.

I tre best on whatever pointy 14" WB bloard a low tight ish back truck and classic or radial cuts around 54mm down.

I'm liking different stuff rn.

I gotta make a wheel selection soon tho. Im thinking lock ins or tabs. Probably the lockins. They come in 57.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on June 17, 2023, 09:56:16 AM
aight maybe this goes in madness support but idk.

i see some folks (on slap, mostly) run a small board to learn tricks on and a bigger board as a daily driver.  when you learn tricks on the little board, you can just bring em to the big board? Or is it like you learn to do a tre on the little board for fun and dont really skate that way on the main board?

i guess what i dont understand is how learning a trick on a smaller board than you usually ride wouldnt fuck up your timing etc on the bigger, “normal” board. no hate at all, just curious

Ive been skating the same sorta set up for as long as i can remember. 8.5/14.5, 149/159, 54/56mm. Never been a flip trick guy outside a handful of basics. Try as I might, so im fucking around with a smaller board solely for the sake of learning these new tricks. I skate 3-5 days a week for at least an hour. Im 38. Its good for the brain/body to try new things. Dgaf
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2023, 11:09:42 AM
im thinking about getting a manager for my band.

if its ahomie then it will be a 6 way split i guess?

whats fair?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on June 18, 2023, 02:45:26 AM
You think 8.5 trucks on a gO27 deck are too wide?
Cause of the taper I mean.

I had them on average 8.25 decks and it was great
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on June 18, 2023, 07:41:15 AM
im thinking about getting a manager for my band.

if its ahomie then it will be a 6 way split i guess?

whats fair?

No gods, no managers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2023, 08:03:51 AM
i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full brimmer, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on June 19, 2023, 11:52:35 AM
For the cons ctas does anyone know if i should go half or full size down?

go down a full size for CTAS
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 19, 2023, 12:28:06 PM
i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full brimmer, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss

You need hundreds of pounds or just the front wheel of a car
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 19, 2023, 12:59:00 PM
Would love to reas from some pal a little insight between loveseat vs couch
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2023, 01:26:38 PM
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i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full brimmer, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss
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You need hundreds of pounds or just the front wheel of a car

thank you.


@Mbrimson88
how long do you park on your boards to flatten em? how heavy is your vehicle?
please and thanks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on June 19, 2023, 04:44:05 PM
i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full Neen Williams, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVv53BA-vUc

at 1:20 he mentions his technique
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2023, 05:17:43 PM
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i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full Neen Williams, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss
[close]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVv53BA-vUc

at 1:20 he mentions his technique

thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on June 19, 2023, 05:21:45 PM
Would love to reas from some pal a little insight between loveseat vs couch

So very similar. The Loveseat is literally a slimmed down version of the Couch. Most of the slimming is in the guts. Nose, tail and WB are exactly the same length. I personally prefer the Couch. I just like the outline curve better and it worked better for me for curbs and flat.

Thunder 151s are your friend.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 19, 2023, 07:11:13 PM
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i’ve got several (too many) boards that didn’t ‘work’ for me. all gripped, all shit enough to not be interesting to someone else. most of these are bbs boards, that just too steep for me.
without going full brimmer, and parking my embarrassingly heavy suv (so shameful) on them, how much weight is needed to flatten these suckers out? can i do it with dumbbells?
my idea is to acetone/sand a few, try and flatten some, on these boards that i already don’t like. so when i inevitably fuck this up, it’s not a big loss
[close]

You need hundreds of pounds or just the front wheel of a car
[close]

thank you.


@Mbrimson88
how long do you park on your boards to flatten em? how heavy is your vehicle?
please and thanks.


I have a Corolla (more weight in the front end), so a relatively small car and park with the board under the front tyre for half an hour to an hour, depending on how steep the kicks are, often doing two at a time, one under each front wheel, just to make it more even on weight.


Best way to first check is just drive slowly over the board to see if it handles the weight, but even five minutes under bigger vehicle tyres can do a lot and not break a board, when a friend tried it too.

If you are worried about it, try the lighter end, eg engine in the front, drive over or park under the back only with a bigger vehicle.

I also do it on smooth concrete floor with a board box (or any cardboard) sheath to protect the deck, especially if it is gripped, so before taking the graphic off or anything else, select one board you would be least likely to miss, then at a time when the tyres are not hot from driving, place it just behind or in front of the back wheel and gently drive over it.

Hot tyres will flatten it way more in a shorter time, and colder weather is less likely to help it flex out.  Also after parking on it the board will usually look impossibly flat and dead, but it usually springs back after 24 hours or so.

I would do the gentle drive over it first, then park on it for five minutes one way (eg on the tail), then five minutes the other way (on the nose) and leave it be for a day or two and check the angle of the kicks after that.

Never broken a BBS board, but I have seen others break some Dwindle boards.  I have done this to BBS, PS Stix, Clutch and some other unknown woodshops and they all worked well.

If a board is dead cold it is less likely to flex and more likely to break, so if it is a cold environment, leave it out in the sun for a bit, both sides to make it easier.




Neen Williams

at 1:20 he mentions his technique



Yeah that was an interesting watch when it came out, before doing any of this, so I definitely did not do it first and took advice from others who had been doing it for years with boards going back to Daewon and his 90s customisations, but I will say, it has definitely helped me with my busted old ankles with the tail especially being more mellow and making everything easier. 

As the board feels weird if I just do the tail, I try to do it evenly so both kicks mellow out which means it works how a mellow board should, not flat tail and steep nose.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2023, 07:19:37 PM
as always, thank you for your time
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on June 19, 2023, 08:03:51 PM
I picked up some of the Tom Knox Forged Hollow Indys on sale. They’ve got white bushings and white pivot cup.
They’re the quietest Indys I’ve ever owned. Usually they’re squeaky and creaky. These are silent and buttery.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with the non-black pivot cups and/or the non-orange bushings that sometimes come stock with Indys? Do the black stock bushings and red pivot cups feel different too?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daydream on June 19, 2023, 09:02:54 PM
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Would love to reas from some pal a little insight between loveseat vs couch
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So very similar. The Loveseat is literally a slimmed down version of the Couch. Most of the slimming is in the guts. Nose, tail and WB are exactly the same length. I personally prefer the Couch. I just like the outline curve better and it worked better for me for curbs and flat.

Thunder 151s are your friend.
good info. Need repost in crail shapes thread. Here I go
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 20, 2023, 03:40:31 AM
I picked up some of the Tom Knox Forged Hollow Indys on sale. They’ve got white bushings and white pivot cup.
They’re the quietest Indys I’ve ever owned. Usually they’re squeaky and creaky. These are silent and buttery.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with the non-black pivot cups and/or the non-orange bushings that sometimes come stock with Indys? Do the black stock bushings and red pivot cups feel different too?


Always the chance that different colours affect the compounds of urethane for bushings, pivot cups, etc.

I wonder too if because they are brand new stock, there is less ageing of the urethane or build up of anything the way there often is on older trucks that get set up, which tend to squeak a whole lot more.

A very new set of Indys I got out of their individual bags and set up the other day surprised me because they were so very quiet, compared to almost every other older looking new set I have set up which had some squeaking in either pivot cup, bushings or both.


Curious how soft the bushings feel too, but it is harder to make any comparisons if you don't have other new trucks with stock orange bushings to check against.

Also the stock black pivot cups that come with the plain baseplate Indy seem way harder than the older ones that were in the cross baseplates, so that can make the trucks feel or sound different too.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 20, 2023, 02:48:52 PM
I picked up some of the Tom Knox Forged Hollow Indys on sale. They’ve got white bushings and white pivot cup.
They’re the quietest Indys I’ve ever owned. Usually they’re squeaky and creaky. These are silent and buttery.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with the non-black pivot cups and/or the non-orange bushings that sometimes come stock with Indys? Do the black stock bushings and red pivot cups feel different too?

I bought a set of these for a buddy and switched out the bushings and pivot cups to match his brand colors, so I kept the white stock bushings and gold hardware. Also kept the black stock bushings that came with my Reynolds mids. To me, the other stock colors are just like the new stock orange bushings, which is to say they’re great.

I’m currently using the black ones in a pair of Venture 5.6s (these really loosen up Ventures straight out the gate if you find the stock DLX bushings too firm, but I still think the Supercush 88s are my favorite in Ventures). I have the white set on my AF1 60 Lows, and I think I actually prefer them to the Ace bushings in those trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on June 20, 2023, 11:01:12 PM
On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 21, 2023, 12:40:25 AM
On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.
I would say olive oil because that shit works for everything. I don't have proof but also I don't have any doubts.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on June 21, 2023, 06:54:48 AM
I picked up some of the Tom Knox Forged Hollow Indys on sale. They’ve got white bushings and white pivot cup.
They’re the quietest Indys I’ve ever owned. Usually they’re squeaky and creaky. These are silent and buttery.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with the non-black pivot cups and/or the non-orange bushings that sometimes come stock with Indys? Do the black stock bushings and red pivot cups feel different too?

Never had Indys other than the standard orange bushing ones, but I've had a similar experience with Thunders. Previously had team hollows with white bushings that I loved, and now have regular Team ones with clear blue bushings that I couldn't get to turn how I like them. I bought some white "factory stock" thunder bushing kit and it's night and day. The white bushings feel way better imo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 21, 2023, 10:43:33 PM
I know this is a long shot but maybe I'll get lucky.
Anybody tried Nomads 85a?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on June 22, 2023, 12:15:33 AM
On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.

You gotta go dry.
Soap flakes do the trick for me. The guys I sesh with on the mini ramp often ask how my shit is so quiet.
If you have bar soap, you could probably grate a little.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/VwqDxB0/IMG-1958.jpg[/img  (https://ibb.co/VwqDxB0)

Just fill em up good, and when you put the hanger back on any surplus will come out as you tighten stuff down.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 22, 2023, 05:19:14 AM
I know this is a long shot but maybe I'll get lucky.
Anybody tried Nomads 85a?


I first thought you might have meant the OJ Nomads in 95 duro (which I have and they are ok but not great) but then when I looked up Nomads 85a some pink cruiser wheels came up from Malaysia or Thailand or similar, to which I would say No I have never heard of them before, but they seem like they would be an ok wheel for that sort of thing.

Was this what you were meaning:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284079360797

https://www.shopofskatan.com/products/nomad-55mm-85a-pink-cruiser-skateboard-wheels

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 22, 2023, 05:41:10 AM
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I know this is a long shot but maybe I'll get lucky.
Anybody tried Nomads 85a?
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I first thought you might have meant the OJ Nomads in 95 duro (which I have and they are ok but not great) but then when I looked up Nomads 85a some pink cruiser wheels came up from Malaysia or Thailand or similar, to which I would say No I have never heard of them before, but they seem like they would be an ok wheel for that sort of thing.

Was this what you were meaning:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284079360797

https://www.shopofskatan.com/products/nomad-55mm-85a-pink-cruiser-skateboard-wheels
Yup, those are the ones. Idk why I have the impression that Nomad is from Spain buy yeah, cruiser wheels for my gf. They should do the trick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bror on June 22, 2023, 05:41:20 AM
Im a 11 in last resorts, what size am i in nike sb??

last resort and nike site says their size 11 is 29cm, but its common knowledge to go half size down for last resorts.. am I a 11,5 in nike sb?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 22, 2023, 02:18:02 PM
On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.

A very light coating of any kind of actual petroleum based grease (lithium, marine grade, whatever) usually does it for me. In theory these do degrade plastics, but in my experience this sort of damage happens at a time scale which is irrelevant to skateboard gear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 22, 2023, 04:36:29 PM
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On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.
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A very light coating of any kind of actual petroleum based grease (lithium, marine grade, whatever) usually does it for me. In theory these do degrade plastics, but in my experience this sort of damage happens at a time scale which is irrelevant to skateboard gear.

I actually use super tech penetrating lubricant on my pivot cups and squeaky bushings. Hell, it works good for blasting bearings between cleanings, though with bearings I typically take them off blast em, soak em in degreaser, dry and then relive with speed cream.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 22, 2023, 04:39:27 PM
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On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.
[close]

A very light coating of any kind of actual petroleum based grease (lithium, marine grade, whatever) usually does it for me. In theory these do degrade plastics, but in my experience this sort of damage happens at a time scale which is irrelevant to skateboard gear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 22, 2023, 04:40:39 PM
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On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.
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A very light coating of any kind of actual petroleum based grease (lithium, marine grade, whatever) usually does it for me. In theory these do degrade plastics, but in my experience this sort of damage happens at a time scale which is irrelevant to skateboard gear.

I swear by super tech penetrating lubricant. I blast cups, bushings, and bearings alike.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on June 23, 2023, 03:13:27 PM
Anyone know where I can get blanks that has the full/shovel nose shape?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 23, 2023, 05:33:07 PM
Anyone know where I can get blanks that has the full/shovel nose shape?


I think the main woodshops only do those shapes for specific brands, so you would be best to look to the more independent / smaller / DIY options for woodshops that make custom shapes and all that.

The only issue there is you are going to be paying significantly more for each deck, so that could end up working out cheaper to find a brand that does them and then look for them on sale and "blank" them after purchase.

The Doom Sayers shovel boards all were on good sales and in clearance bins that I saw, with minimal graphics that would easily come off, but that ship might have already sailed.


Someone else might have seen or know more though, but what width or overall size, measurements or whatever would work for you?


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FunnyBunny on June 24, 2023, 08:35:42 PM
What bones formula is closest to F4’s? 

Any opinions appreciated!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 25, 2023, 09:23:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hFsTWRn/IMG-20230623-190414.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WvnRyWd)
(https://i.ibb.co/ry1jSjR/IMG-20230623-190421.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dKzTqTw)
(https://i.ibb.co/42Ppfnc/IMG-20230623-190427.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T1mtTxZ)

I've been giving old bloards to my homeless homies.

This one guy who's a frickin mad man said my grip art was giving him a bad mental state so he removed it and asked if I had a sheet.

I do not. He has soft ass wheels that bounce and I'm worried he's going to die with just paint on the top.

Fuckin insane hill he bombs every morning too.

I feel like I'm contributing to gis downfall...

Can someone send me a sheet for this guy?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on June 25, 2023, 11:01:01 AM
What bones formula is closest to F4’s? 

Any opinions appreciated!

Bones STF. IMO it hardly compares to the F4, but that's definitely the closest thing they have.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Samsquantch on June 25, 2023, 12:19:25 PM
On this note, is there any lube that will reduce the pivot cup squeaking for more than a few sessions? Wax is ok, but I dont want to take my trucks apart every couple days, speed cream works for like 45 minutes, really hoping there is something out there.

I know this question is from like a week ago, but I just put a really thin film of basic automotive grease on the pin, then wipe off any excess that squeezes out after the first session. It's been months now and no squeaks. I don't put anything on the bushings, they stop squeaking after a few sessions anyway. I've done this on a set of Ace AF1's and two sets of Indy's, they're all quiet and feel great.

The grease is fine on automotive rubber like balljoint boots and suspension bushings, so no reason it shouldn't be fine on plastic pivot cups.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on June 25, 2023, 02:25:09 PM
What bones formula is closest to F4’s? 

Any opinions appreciated!

Not stf, but the new x formula 99a might be close
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mstuntbless on June 25, 2023, 08:51:11 PM
Hey y’all. I have 149 indy standards. I want my ride a little lower. Has anyone ever taken a FH baseplate and put standard axels on it? In my mind that would make it a little lower without having to mess around with IKP from Indy mids
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Samsquantch on June 25, 2023, 09:01:24 PM
Hey y’all. I have 149 indy standards. I want my ride a little lower. Has anyone ever taken a FH baseplate and put standard axels on it? In my mind that would make it a little lower without having to mess around with IKP from Indy mids

That would work fine, the hangers (axles) are the same shape between standards and forged hollow. You'd go from 55mm to 53.5mm. I don't think you can just buy the forged hollow baseplates though?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mstuntbless on June 25, 2023, 09:04:27 PM
Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Samsquantch on June 25, 2023, 09:08:09 PM
Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!

Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sizzle on June 26, 2023, 12:13:41 AM
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Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
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Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?

A lot of people like the weight of standards
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 26, 2023, 05:59:40 AM
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Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
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Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?

I think some people don't like the feel / sound of hollow hangers. And the slightly heavier standard Indy hangers have a nice amount of heft to them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mstuntbless on June 26, 2023, 06:46:41 AM
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Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
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Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?
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I think some people don't like the feel / sound of hollow hangers. And the slightly heavier standard Indy hangers have a nice amount of heft to them.

 
^^ exactly. I’m down for the change in height. I’m not really down for the change in weight. I like the pop feel of the standard hanger!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Samsquantch on June 26, 2023, 07:19:05 AM
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Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
[close]

Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?
[close]

I think some people don't like the feel / sound of hollow hangers. And the slightly heavier standard Indy hangers have a nice amount of heft to them.
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^^ exactly. I’m down for the change in height. I’m not really down for the change in weight. I like the pop feel of the standard hanger!

That makes sense.

Not from personal experience, but I've read on here that some people don't like the forged hollow baseplates because they sound and feel "tinny". So there's that too...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on June 26, 2023, 10:10:02 AM
Do quantum atoms or ceramic bearings in general require more frequent maintenance than say bones reds or Bronson g3? I've had these quantums on since end of April with maybe like 12-14 sessions and 3 of my wheels do not spin as long as one of them. Other than a few sessions in SF, La, and Eugene, most of my skating is done in my neighborhood skatepark and I'm pretty sure I haven't been skating through much dust or puddles. Just seems like a short time to start getting slow as my reds and Bronson's didn't need to be cleaned for almost a year.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on June 26, 2023, 11:15:14 AM
Do quantum atoms or ceramic bearings in general require more frequent maintenance than say bones reds or Bronson g3? I've had these quantums on since end of April with maybe like 12-14 sessions and 3 of my wheels do not spin as long as one of them. Other than a few sessions in SF, La, and Eugene, most of my skating is done in my neighborhood skatepark and I'm pretty sure I haven't been skating through much dust or puddles. Just seems like a short time to start getting slow as my reds and Bronson's didn't need to be cleaned for almost a year.

Ya dude, they need to be cleaned pretty often to keep rolling. Plenty of peeps on slap have had the same or similar experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on June 26, 2023, 12:09:50 PM
Do quantum atoms or ceramic bearings in general require more frequent maintenance than say bones reds or Bronson g3? I've had these quantums on since end of April with maybe like 12-14 sessions and 3 of my wheels do not spin as long as one of them. Other than a few sessions in SF, La, and Eugene, most of my skating is done in my neighborhood skatepark and I'm pretty sure I haven't been skating through much dust or puddles. Just seems like a short time to start getting slow as my reds and Bronson's didn't need to be cleaned for almost a year.
I’ve never skated any ceramics outside of Quantum but I do feel like my Quantums needed more frequent cleanings then the various Bones bearing models I’ve skated. I live in Arizona where there’s a lot of fine dirt and dust and my Quantum’s would get loud and rough feeling pretty quickly. I switched to Reds which are noticeably slower compared to good condition Quantum’s but they’re holding up much better without a cleaning. Still slower, but smoother and quieter for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 26, 2023, 12:18:26 PM
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Do quantum atoms or ceramic bearings in general require more frequent maintenance than say bones reds or Bronson g3? I've had these quantums on since end of April with maybe like 12-14 sessions and 3 of my wheels do not spin as long as one of them. Other than a few sessions in SF, La, and Eugene, most of my skating is done in my neighborhood skatepark and I'm pretty sure I haven't been skating through much dust or puddles. Just seems like a short time to start getting slow as my reds and Bronson's didn't need to be cleaned for almost a year.
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Ya dude, they need to be cleaned pretty often to keep rolling. Plenty of peeps on slap have had the same or similar experience.

Not the case for me. I have Quantum Atoms and Fusions and lube them twice a year, clean them during one of those lubes. SD is fairly dry and dusty and sometimes I notice the bearings sounding louder, but I will spin them by hand and time them and it is within the margin of error. I did notice that when I overlubed my Quantums they tended to feel slower and attract more gunk whereas when I overlube a Swiss/non ceramic they seem to eventually just dry up a bit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 26, 2023, 05:02:56 PM
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Ok that’s good to know! Yea you can’t buy just the baseplates which is lame but I figured I could just get a set of FH and harvest the plates from them. Thanks dude!
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Why not just use the whole truck? Why put an identical shape, but heavier hanger on the forged hollow baseplate?
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I think some people don't like the feel / sound of hollow hangers. And the slightly heavier standard Indy hangers have a nice amount of heft to them.
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^^ exactly. I’m down for the change in height. I’m not really down for the change in weight. I like the pop feel of the standard hanger!


Too bad you are not in Australia, otherwise I would have been happy to swap / trade parts.

I have more interest in regular / standard trucks, especially baseplates, so am always happy to get rid of the forged baseplates in trades for standard cast plates.

Someone somewhere might be selling some used trucks with forged plates, or even anyone who has gone through the axle of their hangers but the baseplates are still ok, so it might be worth checking around or asking before going out to buy a new set of trucks.

At least if you don't care about the hangers, you could get any used / second hand or on sale options, just to get the baseplates.  I see quite a few sets of trucks on ebay, or other places people are selling that you could get for cheaper than anything else, especially in the 129 or 139 category which very few people I know skate anymore.

Just a thought anyway.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 26, 2023, 11:20:26 PM
Do quantum atoms or ceramic bearings in general require more frequent maintenance than say bones reds or Bronson g3? I've had these quantums on since end of April with maybe like 12-14 sessions and 3 of my wheels do not spin as long as one of them. Other than a few sessions in SF, La, and Eugene, most of my skating is done in my neighborhood skatepark and I'm pretty sure I haven't been skating through much dust or puddles. Just seems like a short time to start getting slow as my reds and Bronson's didn't need to be cleaned for almost a year.
Yes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on June 27, 2023, 11:12:39 AM
What affects rebound back to center the most for a truck, bushings or pivot cups?
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Post by: Jim and Dan on June 27, 2023, 11:13:41 AM
Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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Post by: DeepSpace9mm on June 27, 2023, 11:25:21 AM
Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?

The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.
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Post by: Jim and Dan on June 27, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
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Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.

Good to know, been wanting a Metal board in the back of my mind for some time now.
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Post by: eviltgirl on June 27, 2023, 11:32:21 AM
What affects rebound back to center the most for a truck, bushings or pivot cups?

Bushings 100%, pivot cups have a pretty minimal impact overall.
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Post by: manysnakes on June 27, 2023, 12:17:05 PM
What affects rebound back to center the most for a truck, bushings or pivot cups?

Definitely bushings.
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Post by: Samsquantch on June 27, 2023, 12:48:56 PM
What affects rebound back to center the most for a truck, bushings or pivot cups?

Top (roadside) bushing in particular, and not over tightening your kingpin. When the hanger turns relative to the baseplate, it rotates a small amount, and when you crank your kingpin nut too tight it causes the hanger to stick between the squeezed together bushings. That's why you're always better off getting harder bushings instead of tightening stock ones more than a couple threads.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 27, 2023, 05:28:18 PM
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Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.
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Good to know, been wanting a Metal board in the back of my mind for some time now.


Guessing you have already looked at the Egg Shaped board thread?  If not, that is a fun thread to check out.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.0


Also depends on the tail, given some are very small pointy things and others have a decent tail that skates more like a normal board, in particular but not limited to the AH Huffer 9.12 shape and the Black Label 9" egg shape, both of which I have and feel comfortable, but that is just me anyway.

https://blacklabelskates.bigcartel.com/product/jake-reuter-chains-9-0-egg


Any particular size you were wanting?


Also note, the trucks usually go about 1/4" down from the overall width of the board, sometimes more depending on where you like them to sit, eg 9" board fits 8.75" trucks well, or the 9.12 Huffer fits 9" trucks well, but again that is more personal preference.  Some will ride even more narrow trucks than that on those same boards.


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Post by: moonordie on June 27, 2023, 11:23:21 PM
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Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.
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Good to know, been wanting a Metal board in the back of my mind for some time now.
Girl and I would add Primitive but at the end is the same as Heroin
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Post by: Yewwman on June 28, 2023, 04:46:44 AM
How is the durability in Nike SB decon (dunks, blazers) compared to the regular versions?
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Post by: Jim and Dan on June 28, 2023, 05:09:56 AM
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Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.
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Good to know, been wanting a Metal board in the back of my mind for some time now.
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Guessing you have already looked at the Egg Shaped board thread?  If not, that is a fun thread to check out.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.0


Also depends on the tail, given some are very small pointy things and others have a decent tail that skates more like a normal board, in particular but not limited to the AH Huffer 9.12 shape and the Black Label 9" egg shape, both of which I have and feel comfortable, but that is just me anyway.

https://blacklabelskates.bigcartel.com/product/jake-reuter-chains-9-0-egg


Any particular size you were wanting?


Also note, the trucks usually go about 1/4" down from the overall width of the board, sometimes more depending on where you like them to sit, eg 9" board fits 8.75" trucks well, or the 9.12 Huffer fits 9" trucks well, but again that is more personal preference.  Some will ride even more narrow trucks than that on those same boards.

Yeah I was aware, I think I was more interested in the early-90s shapes, which I guess in essence is an egg shape.
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on June 28, 2023, 10:42:24 AM
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What affects rebound back to center the most for a truck, bushings or pivot cups?
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Top (roadside) bushing in particular, and not over tightening your kingpin. When the hanger turns relative to the baseplate, it rotates a small amount, and when you crank your kingpin nut too tight it causes the hanger to stick between the squeezed together bushings. That's why you're always better off getting harder bushings instead of tightening stock ones more than a couple threads.

I think I’ll try out a harder top bushing.  I don’t have them cranked down, but have eaten shit twice from the hanger locking into a turning position
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 28, 2023, 08:17:24 PM
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Who makes good egg or 90's shape boards besides Heroin or Anti-Hero?
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The Metal 9.0 egg shape is nice. I posted one in the setup thread not too long ago. Alien offers the same shape with different graphics and they also have an 8.75 Egg.
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Good to know, been wanting a Metal board in the back of my mind for some time now.
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Guessing you have already looked at the Egg Shaped board thread?  If not, that is a fun thread to check out.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.0


Also depends on the tail, given some are very small pointy things and others have a decent tail that skates more like a normal board, in particular but not limited to the AH Huffer 9.12 shape and the Black Label 9" egg shape, both of which I have and feel comfortable, but that is just me anyway.

https://blacklabelskates.bigcartel.com/product/jake-reuter-chains-9-0-egg


Any particular size you were wanting?


Also note, the trucks usually go about 1/4" down from the overall width of the board, sometimes more depending on where you like them to sit, eg 9" board fits 8.75" trucks well, or the 9.12 Huffer fits 9" trucks well, but again that is more personal preference.  Some will ride even more narrow trucks than that on those same boards.
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Yeah I was aware, I think I was more interested in the early-90s shapes, which I guess in essence is an egg shape.


The funny thing with the early 90s shapes, I guess also depending on which board company or even which year as things moved very quickly is the nose was often more pointy than the tail, whereas quite a few egg shapes tend to have a smaller tail and a bigger wider nose now.  I know this is not always the case, but I was comparing quite a few other shaped boards, in particular the Grosso shape that would work really well if I just rounded off the corners of the nose and tail.  That might be too much work for the effort vs the result, but boards like the Huffer shape really show this well.

When pressure flips and similar tricks came in, tails got a lot smaller and way more tapered, so if you are more interested in that style of board, there are a few others around as well that would work, but it all comes down to approximately what size you are interested in, eg Krooked 8.25 Cromer, DLX Flyer shape 8.75, Black Label 9, Crail Love seat or Phawt 9+ and lots more too.

Sorry to go on, but there really are a lot and quite a few variations on the same theme, from when boards went from squared wide tails, down to almost nothing then back to popsicles within two to three years max, with some brands going way more extreme than others too.

As a point of reference, just looking at Tactics as almost anyone worldwide can see their stuff, I can see boards from DLX, Frog, Quasi, Uma, Metal, Black Label and others.


https://www.tactics.com/cruiser-skateboard-decks


Examples of board shapes I recall seeing from that period as well as comparing to some I had as well from that time:

DLX

(https://www.tactics.com/a/eimd/1b/krooked-flower-emboss-875-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Quasi

(https://www.tactics.com/a/eivr/1b/quasi-skateboards-world-wide-90-skateboard-deck-green-top.webp)

Frog

(https://www.tactics.com/a/egd8/1b/frog-nick-michel-little-red-91-frog-egg-shape-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Metal

(https://www.tactics.com/a/ehji/1b/metal-skateboards-ben-raybourn-ktcm-875-double-driller-skateboard.webp)

Black Label

(https://www.tactics.com/a/ejrr/1b/black-label-reuter-chains-90-egg-shaped-skateboard-deck-top.webp)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pops on June 28, 2023, 09:01:55 PM
Anyone tried the Metric Shanahans or DC's with the OG Legacy outsole? How they fit and how's the boardfeel with those?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 29, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
does anybody have any actual hard evidence that darkroom is dead?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 29, 2023, 08:22:13 PM
A while back a pal lubed bearings with graphite.
I don’t remember who it was but I wanted to know how they held up if any of you have tried it. lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on June 30, 2023, 05:28:32 AM
Anybody tried Mosaic grip?
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Post by: j....soy..... on June 30, 2023, 07:33:12 AM
A while back a pal lubed bearings with graphite.
I don’t remember who it was but I wanted to know how they held up if any of you have tried it. lol

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?action=search2
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Post by: manysnakes on June 30, 2023, 07:51:15 AM
A while back a pal lubed bearings with graphite.
I don’t remember who it was but I wanted to know how they held up if any of you have tried it. lol

I used liquid graphite for a long time until I bought some sewing machine oil. It works fine, but even when I used a few drops, a little bit would always leak out and create a black strip down the wheel. I think the oil works better overall, but I'm sure they graphite is "faster".
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 30, 2023, 03:37:27 PM
A while back a pal lubed bearings with graphite.
I don’t remember who it was but I wanted to know how they held up if any of you have tried it. lol


People I know have used graphite in open dry bearings and it does work, but you have to keep them completely dry, nothing else in them at all and they were a pain to have to try to clean when eventually they did start to seize up.

It is much better than running bearings without shields and completely dry.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on June 30, 2023, 03:58:05 PM
does anybody have any actual hard evidence that darkroom is dead?
The platform I used to order darkroom boards for the shop is  now nonexistent
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: formula420 on July 01, 2023, 11:18:35 AM
I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

(https://i.ibb.co/ws4nj9D/20230701-102615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ws4nj9D)
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Post by: MOE SYZLAK on July 01, 2023, 01:48:47 PM
I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

(https://i.ibb.co/ws4nj9D/20230701-102615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ws4nj9D)
Just run it like Quail Man
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on July 01, 2023, 03:29:33 PM
I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

(https://i.ibb.co/ws4nj9D/20230701-102615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ws4nj9D)

There should be a space that opens up here where the strap goes in

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1124828971125714954/6786c5ed34943c1675ec17213497298d.png)
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Post by: fs1/2cab on July 01, 2023, 03:44:08 PM
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I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

(https://i.ibb.co/ws4nj9D/20230701-102615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ws4nj9D)
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There should be a space that opens up here where the strap goes in

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1124828971125714954/6786c5ed34943c1675ec17213497298d.png)

I am not sure if I understand the question correctly but if the loose strap is too long and flaps around, yeah put it back in there where homie drew the circle.
If you mean, your hat fits now too small. Take that loose strap and push it to the left through that little plastic thing.
Now that bulged strap thing should become loose and you can adjust another size. Just make sure you pull that loose strap back again through that plastic thing there. That whole strap is supposed to be adjustable to fit every headsize. I hope that all made sense, English isn't my first language and it's been a looong day.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: formula420 on July 01, 2023, 05:10:26 PM
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I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

(https://i.ibb.co/ws4nj9D/20230701-102615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ws4nj9D)
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There should be a space that opens up here where the strap goes in

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1124828971125714954/6786c5ed34943c1675ec17213497298d.png)

Where you circled is sewn shut
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 01, 2023, 05:38:36 PM
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I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

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There should be a space that opens up here where the strap goes in

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Where you circled is sewn shut


Undo the strap completely, then feed it back in the other way, so right now it is up under the second bit and back over, but you want it up the first bit over and then under, if that makes sense?

That way the strap will be to the inside and not hanging out a long way.

Did that with some other ones and it works well, holds them in place and doesn't flap around at all.


I can see the indent in it where it was like that before, when looking closely.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on July 01, 2023, 10:44:55 PM
It’s broken. Burn it and get a mesh trucker from the goodwill.
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Post by: Lepanto on July 02, 2023, 04:11:26 AM
Hi!

Been watching some "FTP" decks arround.

I am curious about what woodshop they use and what its shapes/info are for 8,25 and 8,38 decks.

lenght, wb.. squared? pointy? mid? tail/nose


somebody skated them or got info?
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Post by: formula420 on July 02, 2023, 07:19:24 AM
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I somehow undid the strap on this palace hat and im not sure how to get it back. Anyone know?

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There should be a space that opens up here where the strap goes in

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Where you circled is sewn shut
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Undo the strap completely, then feed it back in the other way, so right now it is up under the second bit and back over, but you want it up the first bit over and then under, if that makes sense?

That way the strap will be to the inside and not hanging out a long way.

Did that with some other ones and it works well, holds them in place and doesn't flap around at all.


I can see the indent in it where it was like that before, when looking closely.

This is the correct answer, thank you
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Post by: Lepanto on July 03, 2023, 11:58:49 AM
Hi!

Been watching some "FTP" decks arround.

I am curious about what woodshop they use and what its shapes/info are for 8,25 and 8,38 decks.

lenght, wb.. squared? pointy? mid? tail/nose


somebody skated them or got info?

Yoo somebody brings some light?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 03, 2023, 05:22:16 PM
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Hi!

Been watching some "FTP" decks arround.

I am curious about what woodshop they use and what its shapes/info are for 8,25 and 8,38 decks.

lenght, wb.. squared? pointy? mid? tail/nose


somebody skated them or got info?
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Yoo somebody brings some light?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159381385


The only FTP decks that comes up that easily shows woodshop include this one, which is on Generator (BBS) wood, so would be the same usual Generator shape and dimensions.

Not sure if this is an old one or the company is even still making boards, or if it was just a run at something to widen their fashion business, which is what it looks like on their instagram account, but I don't really follow all the new cool brands either.


Another listing from the same ebay collectables seller, maybe on Clutch wood or something else, but who knows.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159378218


https://www.instagram.com/ftp/


Looking at other places, the decks are up to four times the price of any other normal board, so are they more just high priced fashion collectables?  I would rather buy four local shop boards and know I have good wood and supported a local shop, but that is just me.  Not hating, just don't understand the hype, but I have always been more into good wood and graphics / brand second, even though I do have favourites anyway.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on July 04, 2023, 10:43:50 AM
Welp, having too much gear finally bit me in the ass. 

Currently at my parents for a week vacation of bbq and skating, but just realized that the set of "extra" trucks i packed and planned to leave here are mismatched. 1 regular AF1, 1 Hollow. I guess drunk packing wasn't the greatest idea.

What would you realistically do?(Not should do, would do)
a) skate em
b) go buy a single to match


If you chose option a, would you put the hollow in front or back? (Regardless of which position the truck was previously skated)
(https://i.imgur.com/FZ8X02v.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on July 04, 2023, 10:51:05 AM
I would just skate it. you could buy a single baseplate though, not sure if it’ll get there in time

https://mesaskatesupply.com/collections/jts-chop-shop
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Post by: manysnakes on July 04, 2023, 11:02:00 AM
Dude just run what 'ya brung.
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Post by: tuesday on July 04, 2023, 11:25:56 AM
But give the bushings in the hollow some air to breath... 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on July 04, 2023, 12:07:13 PM
I would just skate it. you could buy a single baseplate though, not sure if it’ll get there in time

https://mesaskatesupply.com/collections/jts-chop-shop

Yeah thought about doing this but the hangar is also hollow, makes the weight difference pretty noticeable. I’ll probably just try to get myself to forget I ever noticed

But give the bushings in the hollow some air to breath...
haha probably should, I think I was in a ledge phase last time I set these up
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on July 04, 2023, 04:45:34 PM
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https://mesaskatesupply.com/collections/jts-chop-shop
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Yeah thought about doing this but the hangar is also hollow, makes the weight difference pretty noticeable. I’ll probably just try to get myself to forget I ever noticed

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haha probably should, I think I was in a ledge phase last time I set these up

They have ace low baseplates with hollow kingpins.

I cranked down on my lows too with the stock bushings haha, eventually moved to the hards.

Anyway I emailed ace asking if they will have hangers and baseplates for af1 hollows for sale separately and they said eventually but supply is low so not soon.  Patiently waiting to put hollow hangers on my low baseplates
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on July 05, 2023, 12:13:14 AM
I'd try swapping the hangers to see if it evens out the weight.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on July 05, 2023, 07:52:16 AM
I ordered some 99 duro spitfire f4 classics and received 97 duro. They no longer appear to have 99s available in plain colours in the size I wanted, but they still have some 99 duro classic f4 chromas (the colourful ones) in a similar size. I’m trying to decide whether to try to swap them or skate what I received. I planned on using them for smooth spots and parks and shit, as I already have some 93 duro dragons for crusty streets and parking lots.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roisto on July 05, 2023, 08:59:35 AM
I ordered some 99 duro spitfire f4 classics and received 97 duro. They no longer appear to have 99s available in plain colours in the size I wanted, but they still have some 99 duro classic f4 chromas (the colourful ones) in a similar size. I’m trying to decide whether to try to swap them or skate what I received. I planned on using them for smooth spots and parks and shit, as I already have some 93 duro dragons for crusty streets and parking lots.

99A F4s are much better for smooth concrete than the 97A ones. The 97A ones work but you can definitely feel them being slower. On crustyish and crusty asphalt though the 97As are so much better.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on July 05, 2023, 09:08:24 AM
Thanks for your input. That’s what I was thinking, too. I can try to swap for the bright yellow 99s, or alternatively I can return them and go to a different shop that has the 99s I initially ordered. I won’t get the sale price, but whatever. It’s weird to me that I’ll skate brightly coloured cruiser wheels, but I am hesitant to step out of my natural urethane colour comfort zone for hard wheels.
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Post by: manysnakes on July 05, 2023, 11:53:30 AM
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I ordered some 99 duro spitfire f4 classics and received 97 duro. They no longer appear to have 99s available in plain colours in the size I wanted, but they still have some 99 duro classic f4 chromas (the colourful ones) in a similar size. I’m trying to decide whether to try to swap them or skate what I received. I planned on using them for smooth spots and parks and shit, as I already have some 93 duro dragons for crusty streets and parking lots.
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99A F4s are much better for smooth concrete than the 97A ones. The 97A ones work but you can definitely feel them being slower. On crustyish and crusty asphalt though the 97As are so much better.

Agreed. They are incredibly sluggish.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 05, 2023, 06:31:14 PM
are ps stix gx1000 decks somewhat similar in shape to a ps stix quasi?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 05, 2023, 07:53:47 PM
are ps stix gx1000 decks somewhat similar in shape to a ps stix quasi?

I'm 99% sure they use the same mold from PS Stix:

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/quasi-x-vans-mask-8-25
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/split-veneer-teal-yellow-8-25

Looks like the latest batch of GX1000 decks are BBS:
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/zack-krull-be-here-now-8-25

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 05, 2023, 10:01:40 PM
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are ps stix gx1000 decks somewhat similar in shape to a ps stix quasi?
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I'm 99% sure they use the same mold from PS Stix:

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/quasi-x-vans-mask-8-25
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/split-veneer-teal-yellow-8-25

Looks like the latest batch of GX1000 decks are BBS:
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/zack-krull-be-here-now-8-25

thanks, i was hoping so

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on July 06, 2023, 04:29:48 AM
Since this is a question thread I need to let this out from my chest:
Why the fuck Lakai is so damn expensive in the Czech Republic?!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on July 06, 2023, 05:03:09 AM
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I ordered some 99 duro spitfire f4 classics and received 97 duro. They no longer appear to have 99s available in plain colours in the size I wanted, but they still have some 99 duro classic f4 chromas (the colourful ones) in a similar size. I’m trying to decide whether to try to swap them or skate what I received. I planned on using them for smooth spots and parks and shit, as I already have some 93 duro dragons for crusty streets and parking lots.
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99A F4s are much better for smooth concrete than the 97A ones. The 97A ones work but you can definitely feel them being slower. On crustyish and crusty asphalt though the 97As are so much better.
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Agreed. They are incredibly sluggish.

Thank you both.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Zyth on July 06, 2023, 05:08:31 AM
Welp, having too much gear finally bit me in the ass. 

Currently at my parents for a week vacation of bbq and skating, but just realized that the set of "extra" trucks i packed and planned to leave here are mismatched. 1 regular AF1, 1 Hollow. I guess drunk packing wasn't the greatest idea.

What would you realistically do?(Not should do, would do)
a) skate em
b) go buy a single to match


If you chose option a, would you put the hollow in front or back? (Regardless of which position the truck was previously skated)
(https://i.imgur.com/FZ8X02v.jpg)
hollow in the front would make more sense
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: eviltgirl on July 06, 2023, 06:18:46 AM
Learning heelflips right now, do you just have to accept that you're never gonna have upper laces if you do heelflips?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on July 06, 2023, 07:24:36 AM
Learning heelflips right now, do you just have to accept that you're never gonna have upper laces if you do heelflips?

Wear Busenitz
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on July 06, 2023, 07:28:31 AM
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Learning heelflips right now, do you just have to accept that you're never gonna have upper laces if you do heelflips?
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Wear Busenitz

sounds like ya’ll do them proper, i don’t have that issue. i’m still in the dark ages, hanging toes off and whatnot. for me it’s the collar of the shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on July 06, 2023, 07:37:39 AM
Learning heelflips right now, do you just have to accept that you're never gonna have upper laces if you do heelflips?

I had to stop using the last lace hole because of that. The collar of my shoes gets wrecked trying/doing them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on July 06, 2023, 09:01:10 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6RJVE0HOv4
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on July 06, 2023, 08:51:09 PM
When will &&'s coconut wheel be available for purchase
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on July 07, 2023, 02:35:19 AM
this is almost certainly a stupid question - but does the stickiness/grippiness/roughness of griptape affect the amount of dust/dirt that accumulates on it??
my last deck had jessup griptape on it, and i noticed that it was a lot cleaner than all my other boards but considered it as coincidence. however, the deck i just set up today with mob griptape got just as dirty as the previous deck did in 2 months, within a 2 hour session in my shed.

what gives?? does it have any effect? am i insane? let me know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on July 07, 2023, 04:20:39 AM
Good question, I'm was skating Jessup on my last board (I hated it. The grip, not the board) and thing was a dust magnet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: stupidfuckface on July 07, 2023, 07:32:48 AM
Ok here’s one that makes me wonder.
Why is it that so many 8.38 decks have a longer wheelbase than 8.5 decks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on July 07, 2023, 07:44:31 AM
this is almost certainly a stupid question - but does the stickiness/grippiness/roughness of griptape affect the amount of dust/dirt that accumulates on it??
my last deck had jessup griptape on it, and i noticed that it was a lot cleaner than all my other boards but considered it as coincidence. however, the deck i just set up today with mob griptape got just as dirty as the previous deck did in 2 months, within a 2 hour session in my shed.

what gives?? does it have any effect? am i insane? let me know.

It definitely has an effect on the grip as that is extra material that isn't as grippy as griptape where your feet are touching.
Definitely one of my kook tendencies, I carry belt sander cleaner/grip gum in my bag with me at every session.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: HumbleGenius on July 07, 2023, 08:06:23 AM
Anyone running REAL wooden risers? I just added these to my setup with Thunders to be able to run big(ger) wheels without getting pitched from wheelbite and I'm really loving it so far.

My question would be how long do they last? Do they last the whole lifetime of the trucks or am I gonna have to swap them for new ones often? I do a lot of noseslides and tailslides so I'd like to know if they blow out I'm gonna get a few spare sets. Otherwise I'd just buy a new set whenever I get new trucks...

Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on July 07, 2023, 10:07:17 AM
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Hi!

Been watching some "FTP" decks arround.

I am curious about what woodshop they use and what its shapes/info are for 8,25 and 8,38 decks.

lenght, wb.. squared? pointy? mid? tail/nose


somebody skated them or got info?
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Yoo somebody brings some light?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159381385


The only FTP decks that comes up that easily shows woodshop include this one, which is on Generator (BBS) wood, so would be the same usual Generator shape and dimensions.

Not sure if this is an old one or the company is even still making boards, or if it was just a run at something to widen their fashion business, which is what it looks like on their instagram account, but I don't really follow all the new cool brands either.


Another listing from the same ebay collectables seller, maybe on Clutch wood or something else, but who knows.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159378218


https://www.instagram.com/ftp/


Looking at other places, the decks are up to four times the price of any other normal board, so are they more just high priced fashion collectables?  I would rather buy four local shop boards and know I have good wood and supported a local shop, but that is just me.  Not hating, just don't understand the hype, but I have always been more into good wood and graphics / brand second, even though I do have favourites anyway.

LMAO, so basically FTP skateboards basically offer the standard generator decks, not even bbs..

For real.. i been feeling a little bit too much overhype on that "thug" company. Not hating but i was curious about what they offering to make all that people demanding their decks and clothes...

thx for the info
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on July 07, 2023, 10:13:27 AM
Ok here’s one that makes me wonder.
Why is it that so many 8.38 decks have a longer wheelbase than 8.5 decks?

good question lmao, wondered the same meny times
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chatbot on July 07, 2023, 10:58:27 AM
Anyone running REAL wooden risers? I just added these to my setup with Thunders to be able to run big(ger) wheels without getting pitched from wheelbite and I'm really loving it so far.

My question would be how long do they last? Do they last the whole lifetime of the trucks or am I gonna have to swap them for new ones often? I do a lot of noseslides and tailslides so I'd like to know if they blow out I'm gonna get a few spare sets. Otherwise I'd just buy a new set whenever I get new trucks...

Thanks!

I've been using the wooden risers for a few years now also with Thunders and they've been working great. They wear down as much as the truck baseplate does but that's about it. When I set up new trucks, I just spin the riser around so the unworn side is flush with the new baseplate to extend the use of them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on July 07, 2023, 12:34:19 PM
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Ok here’s one that makes me wonder.
Why is it that so many 8.38 decks have a longer wheelbase than 8.5 decks?
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good question lmao, wondered the same meny times

Ive wondered the same. I came to a loose conclusion(for Dlx mostly) that to maintain product selection, they alternate long board/long wheelbase/less tapered, with shorter board/shorter wheelbase/more tapered as you go up in width from 8.0.

8.0 - usually 14.38
8.12 - usually 14, sometimes 14.25
8.25 - 14.38
8.28 - 14.1
8.38 - 14.5
8.4 - 14.25
8.5 - 14.25 or 14.38
8.62 - 14.75
8.75 - 14.62

obviously theres a lot of exceptions, and true fit throws a wench into this theory.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: planman on July 07, 2023, 04:02:07 PM
Who aside from Real makes an 8.5 or 8.6 with a 14.38 wb?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Boog on July 07, 2023, 04:11:17 PM
Who aside from Real makes an 8.5 or 8.6 with a 14.38 wb?
Limosine 8.6 is 14.3
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on July 07, 2023, 04:44:12 PM
polar 8.6 popsicle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on July 11, 2023, 11:15:27 AM
Got a pair of one stars that are camo. They were real cheap so I couldn’t say no but now I gotta ask, what’s the best type of spray paint for shoes? I wear a lot of green shirts and feel funny with my shirt and shoes matching
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Steely Daniel on July 13, 2023, 05:35:36 PM
This kooky local I skate with regularly thinks that melting wax with a torch on ledges is the way to go. To me, it seems like it just melts into the pores of the concrete or just straight-up melts off. It's no longer on the surface anymore where it needs to be. I can visibly see the difference just looking at the surface of the ledge, but he's your typical know-it-all expert who can't be reasoned with. Am I totally wrong here or what? It feels like even in the hot sun the wax just melts off or into the ledge and becomes useless. I dunno I don't get it. Seems stupid. Maybe I'm stupid though. Someone chime in.

This is on an ancient skatepark ledge btw. Might be more appropriate for breaking in a new concrete ledge but still I am skeptical.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 13, 2023, 07:46:07 PM
What size roundover router bit to properly smooth the edge of a skateboard?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on July 14, 2023, 01:06:55 AM
Do Etnies Maranas have removable insole?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on July 14, 2023, 01:18:38 AM
Do Etnies Maranas have removable insole?
Yes  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on July 14, 2023, 02:42:41 AM
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Do Etnies Maranas have removable insole?
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Yes  :)
That's what i hoped for, thanks for the quick answer!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cesspool86 on July 14, 2023, 02:52:11 AM
Got a pair of one stars that are camo. They were real cheap so I couldn’t say no but now I gotta ask, what’s the best type of spray paint for shoes? I wear a lot of green shirts and feel funny with my shirt and shoes matching

If you have time and patience get some suede/leather dye. Most grocery stores have it in the shoe care section
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 14, 2023, 05:39:47 PM
Has anyone don't switch flip mctwist yet?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gleefull508 on July 16, 2023, 09:47:51 PM
Does anyone know where I can find size 149 (8.5) stage 4 indys? I think Im a little late to the stage 4 release as i can't really find them that easy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on July 16, 2023, 10:10:37 PM
this is almost certainly a stupid question - but does the stickiness/grippiness/roughness of griptape affect the amount of dust/dirt that accumulates on it??
my last deck had jessup griptape on it, and i noticed that it was a lot cleaner than all my other boards but considered it as coincidence. however, the deck i just set up today with mob griptape got just as dirty as the previous deck did in 2 months, within a 2 hour session in my shed.

what gives?? does it have any effect? am i insane? let me know.

bcoz of the peaks and valleys of the grit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on July 16, 2023, 10:15:56 PM
Does anyone know where I can find size 149 (8.5) stage 4 indys? I think Im a little late to the stage 4 release as i can't really find them that easy.
The closest size to a 149 is either the 151(8.6) or the 146(8.25). Here’s some links to 4 shops that have them. They’re still out there and imo it would be cooler to order from one of these places or a similarly independent shop than a big online retailer or nhs themselves

https://kcdcskateshop.com/products/independent-stage-4-polished-trucks?variant=44363006345458

https://laskate.com/products/independent-stage-4-polished-set-of-2-trucks?variant=40516304142397&srsltid=ASuE1wRYEU85v2qD7So2UNUtNiH9dck16iv_z1dJ__i4BWluDDoBboOnasw

https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Trucks/Independent/p/Independent-Stage-4-Polished-Trucks-set-of-2-x67824917.htm

https://orchardshop.com/collections/trucks/products/independent-stage-4-polished-trucks-sold-as-a-single-truck?variant=42239987581093
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 17, 2023, 10:08:20 AM
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this is almost certainly a stupid question - but does the stickiness/grippiness/roughness of griptape affect the amount of dust/dirt that accumulates on it??
my last deck had jessup griptape on it, and i noticed that it was a lot cleaner than all my other boards but considered it as coincidence. however, the deck i just set up today with mob griptape got just as dirty as the previous deck did in 2 months, within a 2 hour session in my shed.

what gives?? does it have any effect? am i insane? let me know.
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Not entirely, no. I do a lot of woodworking and some brands of the same grit sandpaper seem to generate different levels of dust. Just because the grit is similar doesn't necessarily mean whatever holds it on is the same or the backing paper is the same

bcoz of the peaks and valleys of the grit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: IUTSM on July 17, 2023, 10:49:15 AM
How are lakai shoes? Im thinking about some telfords or cambridge.

Are they

-tts (size 11 half cab and blazer are my go to for fit)
-decently comfortable to walk in (last longer than vans)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on July 17, 2023, 12:16:12 PM
How are lakai shoes? Im thinking about some telfords or cambridge.

Are they

-tts (size 11 half cab and blazer are my go to for fit)
-decently comfortable to walk in (last longer than vans)

I had some Cambridges and I liked them a lot. I don't know how much walking I did in them, but I didn't feel discomfort at all. Size seemed true, but YYMV. My biggest complaint was that the sole wore out more quickly than most shoes, but overall they skated really well and I thought they looked great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 17, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
i had a pair in 2018 and i blew the side out just from walking in them, didn't skate in them at all. maybe their materials and construction are better now but the ones i had were trash
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on July 17, 2023, 02:45:38 PM
How are lakai shoes? Im thinking about some telfords or cambridge.

Are they

-tts (size 11 half cab and blazer are my go to for fit)
-decently comfortable to walk in (last longer than vans)

I really have liked the Lakais I've had in the last couple years. I was a guy that skated nothing but Lakai, but honestly the quality went to such shit that I didn't touch the brand for like 8 years. The last 2 years I've pretty much skated nothing but Lakai or New Balance and I can honestly say Lakai is good again. Big fan of both the Telford and Cambridge and they both fit true to size (I'm also an 11). Skating the Telford Low right now and it's been holding up really well, and I'm a guy that doesn't shoe goo and probably tosses shoes much earlier than most. Been skating them for about a month and I haven't even ripped a stitch yet. And I do a good amount of flip tricks. The one weird thing I will say is that for some reason some of their leather shoes run a bit bigger and don't seem to fit as well. But I prefer suede anyway so I just only buy suede shoes from them. They keep sending me 20% off codes but I'm not buying anything else from them until the Griffin Gass shoe comes out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 17, 2023, 05:05:14 PM
Does anyone know where I can find size 149 (8.5) stage 4 indys? I think Im a little late to the stage 4 release as i can't really find them that easy.


The Stage 4 reissues only came out in certain sizes, so not 149 exactly, but the 146 (8.375) or 151 (8.625) are the closest width to 149s.

If you like your trucks to sit under a bit, go the 146 size, or if you like the extra width go the 151s.

I usually put three washers on the inside of all my 149s so the wider ones would be good for me, more transition based, whereas others who prefer a no extra washer setup could ride the 146 size and be happy.

Hope that helps.


The Indy Stage 4 thread is here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126174.0


I just saw this when looking for info, so thought it would help here too.  Sizes are closer to what they were back when earlier stages came out, maybe also trying to cater to some who like the Ace Classic sizes too.



(https://i.ibb.co/GMH9kHP/Indy-STage-4-reissue-info.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R6jNPjH)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Jeffrey on July 17, 2023, 06:47:50 PM
Is there a verdict on boards left in hot cars?

Decided to skate for the first time in ages after relationship stuff kicked my ass.

Ended up leaving my board in the car for like two weeks of mostly 80-90 temperatures.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 17, 2023, 07:16:58 PM
Is there a verdict on boards left in hot cars?

Decided to skate for the first time in ages after relationship stuff kicked my ass.

Ended up leaving my board in the car for like two weeks of mostly 80-90 temperatures.


Although warm, that might not be so bad as other times being well over 100.

Some cars, full sun or in direct sun through a big back window or similar, have caused boards to dry out a lot and delaminate or warp, but most are not that quick to cause any issues.

It helps if it was covered with anything, or if it was in a boot.


If you can easily see a warp, ply layers coming apart, more so through the kick area, or if it feels different, maybe an issue, otherwise carry on as usual and see if it skates ok and don't worry about it.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on July 18, 2023, 12:46:17 AM
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How are lakai shoes? Im thinking about some telfords or cambridge.

Are they

-tts (size 11 half cab and blazer are my go to for fit)
-decently comfortable to walk in (last longer than vans)
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I really have liked the Lakais I've had in the last couple years. I was a guy that skated nothing but Lakai, but honestly the quality went to such shit that I didn't touch the brand for like 8 years. The last 2 years I've pretty much skated nothing but Lakai or New Balance and I can honestly say Lakai is good again. Big fan of both the Telford and Cambridge and they both fit true to size (I'm also an 11). Skating the Telford Low right now and it's been holding up really well, and I'm a guy that doesn't shoe goo and probably tosses shoes much earlier than most. Been skating them for about a month and I haven't even ripped a stitch yet. And I do a good amount of flip tricks. The one weird thing I will say is that for some reason some of their leather shoes run a bit bigger and don't seem to fit as well. But I prefer suede anyway so I just only buy suede shoes from them. They keep sending me 20% off codes but I'm not buying anything else from them until the Griffin Gass shoe comes out.
Lakais are pretty solid, never had any issue except for that time they had that awful Select thing going on.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on July 18, 2023, 03:42:05 AM
Anyone knows the dimensions for the Atlantic Drift Jelly 8.25 decks? Or at least the wheelbase?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on July 18, 2023, 08:14:49 AM
What were the first skateboards meant for popping the tail? Vision / SMA / Santa Cruz / Powell Peralta?

Were these the first shapes that had concave?  I am watching Natas Streets of Fire from 1989 and it still looks like there is almost no concave to the board.

But then I saw Mike V skating his famous Animal Farm board in Rubbish Heap which is also from that same year. So it seems like that was the first board designed that had a nose in mind for popping off but also seems to have some concave to the side for doing flip tricks.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5796824ad2b857facb6fb86d/1469661583582-P1BES6E1CTTFMLNXK2S5/jasonleeburgermed.jpg)

seems like for a few years after this, boards were looking more like this ^ in the transitionary period into popsicles. At some point Egg / Football shapes came into the game, i think around 1992 or 1993. I wonder if New Deal was the first one to do this shape or maybe it was someone else. Then was it World/Blind that made the first popsicle shapes as we basically know them today?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 18, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
Anyone knows the dimensions for the Atlantic Drift Jelly 8.25 decks? Or at least the wheelbase?

If they are still using BBS they use the standard 8.25 mold, similar to Tactics, which is 8.25 x 31.875 x 14.25.

Isle deck measurements are all over the place on Tactics, so I usually the Tactics shop decks as reference
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vicious cycle on July 18, 2023, 01:03:31 PM
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Anyone knows the dimensions for the Atlantic Drift Jelly 8.25 decks? Or at least the wheelbase?
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If they are still using BBS they use the standard 8.25 mold, similar to Tactics, which is 8.25 x 31.875 x 14.25.

Isle deck measurements are all over the place on Tactics, so I usually the Tactics shop decks as reference
Thanks mate, I just order one blind and hope for the best
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on July 20, 2023, 10:51:29 AM
Has anyone frankentrucked venture hangers with thunder baseplates? I have a set of thunders I can't use since I stripped the thread on one of the axles badly and was thinking of trying it out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BurgerCop on July 20, 2023, 11:28:18 AM
Has anyone frankentrucked venture hangers with thunder baseplates? I have a set of thunders I can't use since I stripped the thread on one of the axles badly and was thinking of trying it out

I dunno if you'd want to.
I'm a Thunder rider and have been for years, but I know that the baseplate is considered Thunder's biggest weakness and what turns a lot of people off of them.
Ventures, from what I understand, have a harder, crunchier grind that some people don't like.

So that'd be kinda like taking the worst aspects of both brands and creating the ultimate suck truck haha

But, I don't see why it wouldn't work in a pinch? Shit, give it a shot and report your experience!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: YMCMB on July 20, 2023, 11:31:58 AM
Has anyone frankentrucked venture hangers with thunder baseplates? I have a set of thunders I can't use since I stripped the thread on one of the axles badly and was thinking of trying it out
I think here is the opposite
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmBTDIDOjij/?img_index=1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmBTDIDOjij/?img_index=1)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BurgerCop on July 20, 2023, 12:21:35 PM
Nice, thanks for posting that!
I've considered trying the Thunder hanger/Venture baseplate frankentruck and that damn near seals the deal...especially if I can find a used pair of Ventures...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 10staircoffin on July 20, 2023, 06:36:18 PM
Can anyone recommend hats/caps that suit decent sized head? I used to have a bit of luck with some of the Deluxe brands but I swear they're moving to a purely small-head hat game.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Phao Lo on July 20, 2023, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone recommend hats/caps that suit decent sized head? I used to have a bit of luck with some of the Deluxe brands but I swear they're moving to a purely small-head hat game.

Sci-Fi Fantasy and GX1000 both fit well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Daydream on July 21, 2023, 07:38:24 PM
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Has anyone frankentrucked venture hangers with thunder baseplates? I have a set of thunders I can't use since I stripped the thread on one of the axles badly and was thinking of trying it out
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I think here is the opposite
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmBTDIDOjij/?img_index=1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmBTDIDOjij/?img_index=1)
that caption tho. man, he just doesn't explain the differences in the simplest way and give them off the bat. Has to word jargon around it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on July 24, 2023, 03:06:18 PM
but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MC3 on July 24, 2023, 10:43:41 PM
this is gonna sound stupid but I've never done anything like it before.... Would 8.5" trucks feel normal with a 8.625 or 8.75 deck? I've had 8.5" trucks on a 8.38 deck. Is 8.75 pushing it? I'm proficient at skateboarding, but I don't even know if I'm good (or picky) enough to feel the difference.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on July 25, 2023, 12:56:50 AM
but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?
B for sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on July 25, 2023, 01:06:05 AM
but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?

A-B-C if I could. I'd strive to be the new David Loy. All the haters can catch me sending at 6 A.M. in Nigels living room.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on July 25, 2023, 04:49:43 AM
this is gonna sound stupid but I've never done anything like it before.... Would 8.5" trucks feel normal with a 8.625 or 8.75 deck? I've had 8.5" trucks on a 8.38 deck. Is 8.75 pushing it? I'm proficient at skateboarding, but I don't even know if I'm good (or picky) enough to feel the difference.
Didn't bother me, but i am kinda magic carpet enjoyer myself
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on July 25, 2023, 05:39:33 AM
this is gonna sound stupid but I've never done anything like it before.... Would 8.5" trucks feel normal with a 8.625 or 8.75 deck? I've had 8.5" trucks on a 8.38 deck. Is 8.75 pushing it? I'm proficient at skateboarding, but I don't even know if I'm good (or picky) enough to feel the difference.
I'd go as far as recommending 8.5 trucks on anything above 8.38. Even on a 9. Try it out for sure. Wider trucks can feel weird as fuck
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 25, 2023, 06:40:47 AM
but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?

B - A - C

Free shit for a year is fine by me, I don't see a clause on me not selling the shoes and decks. Plus there are lots of Nigel fan boys who'd pay for his stuff.

Watching him skate in person must be an incredible experience, but I don't think fake enthusiasm for an entire year. He seems to keep a busy skate schedule so I doubt I'd ever be able to skate for a year, let alone the handrails and stairs he skates almost exclusively.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on July 25, 2023, 08:14:44 AM
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but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?
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B - A - C

Free shit for a year is fine by me, I don't see a clause on me not selling the shoes and decks. Plus there are lots of Nigel fan boys who'd pay for his stuff.

Watching him skate in person must be an incredible experience, but I don't think fake enthusiasm for an entire year. He seems to keep a busy skate schedule so I doubt I'd ever be able to skate for a year, let alone the handrails and stairs he skates almost exclusively.
The clause is actually pretty clear. It's not boxes of 10 bloards next time to sell, it's the boards and shoes you skate all the time, and the graphic doesn't scratch off.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on July 25, 2023, 09:35:12 AM
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but would you rather:

- skate the nigel 3s for a year (free, the lime green color way)
- skate disorder boards for a year (free, jah lets you craft your own shape but you cant sticker or otherwise remove graphic.  oh and its a new type of paint that doesnt scrape off but doesnt interfere with slides)
- skate only spots that he skates with him for a year (free travel to the spot, but you have to give him props whenever he lands a warm up trick)

?
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B - A - C

Free shit for a year is fine by me, I don't see a clause on me not selling the shoes and decks. Plus there are lots of Nigel fan boys who'd pay for his stuff.

Watching him skate in person must be an incredible experience, but I don't think fake enthusiasm for an entire year. He seems to keep a busy skate schedule so I doubt I'd ever be able to skate for a year, let alone the handrails and stairs he skates almost exclusively.
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The clause is actually pretty clear. It's not boxes of 10 bloards next time to sell, it's the boards and shoes you skate all the time, and the graphic doesn't scratch off.

Fine.

Skate them for 5 minutes and sell for 1/2 the retail price.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MC3 on July 25, 2023, 01:47:09 PM
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this is gonna sound stupid but I've never done anything like it before.... Would 8.5" trucks feel normal with a 8.625 or 8.75 deck? I've had 8.5" trucks on a 8.38 deck. Is 8.75 pushing it? I'm proficient at skateboarding, but I don't even know if I'm good (or picky) enough to feel the difference.
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I'd go as far as recommending 8.5 trucks on anything above 8.38. Even on a 9. Try it out for sure. Wider trucks can feel weird as fuck

thank you!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on July 26, 2023, 04:32:03 AM
This kooky local I skate with regularly thinks that melting wax with a torch on ledges is the way to go. To me, it seems like it just melts into the pores of the concrete or just straight-up melts off. It's no longer on the surface anymore where it needs to be. I can visibly see the difference just looking at the surface of the ledge, but he's your typical know-it-all expert who can't be reasoned with. Am I totally wrong here or what? It feels like even in the hot sun the wax just melts off or into the ledge and becomes useless. I dunno I don't get it. Seems stupid. Maybe I'm stupid though. Someone chime in.

This is on an ancient skatepark ledge btw. Might be more appropriate for breaking in a new concrete ledge but still I am skeptical.

I think you’re right. I think blowtorching it would be counterproductive to what you want. Also seems like way too much extra work for no positive result.  I live in the south and when it gets so hot the wax melts my board sticks so bad I may as well just not skate the ledges.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 231st Street on July 26, 2023, 05:02:41 AM
Pangea jeans-- I think I've been sleeping on this and have been seeing them lately or noticing and the pants look nice.

I search the forum for background and couldn't find much (or on their website).  Anyone know who owners is/riders or where  I could go to try them on, or any thoughts on fit?  I like somewhat baggy but not crazy wide leg pants for skating.  I historically have stuck to basic khakis, volcom/vans type pants or Levis and trying to try something new-- in particular cuz all my broken in Levis are stained and I don't want to break in new Levis for skating.

Typically I'm a 32 x 32 at about 6 foot, 160-175 pound range depending on season/amount of skating, but will I end up with a goofy boy look (nothing wrong with that, but im a tall/skinny 37 year old, so doesn't really work) or normal 90s/2000s style comfortable skate pants? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on July 26, 2023, 11:25:41 AM
Does anyone know what woodshop Terp is using for Swim? Says boards are made in Ohio so chapman/clutch? I like the look of their 8.25 shape and wanna make sure the board is decent quality
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 26, 2023, 01:21:10 PM
What were the first skateboards meant for popping the tail? Vision / SMA / Santa Cruz / Powell Peralta?

Were these the first shapes that had concave?  I am watching Natas Streets of Fire from 1989 and it still looks like there is almost no concave to the board.

But then I saw Mike V skating his famous Animal Farm board in Rubbish Heap which is also from that same year. So it seems like that was the first board designed that had a nose in mind for popping off but also seems to have some concave to the side for doing flip tricks.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5796824ad2b857facb6fb86d/1469661583582-P1BES6E1CTTFMLNXK2S5/jasonleeburgermed.jpg)

seems like for a few years after this, boards were looking more like this ^ in the transitionary period into popsicles. At some point Egg / Football shapes came into the game, i think around 1992 or 1993. I wonder if New Deal was the first one to do this shape or maybe it was someone else. Then was it World/Blind that made the first popsicle shapes as we basically know them today?

My Barnyard bloards had various concaves and even seemed to have multiple shape changes in a relatively short time. Rubbish heaps the first one I think?

Shape was like a Vienna sausage. Not the best shape. I tried the double vision already. Both sucked kinda.

My Lee Burger was flatish. The nose was nice AF. I think my Richer MM was like the same shape as the Lee shape just wider maybe.
My favorite one was the Candy Bar or the elephant. Probably the same shape.

Powell had crazy concaves going deep into the 90s I think. The medallion was fucked. Was great for like fakie melons I guess. Big ass beyond hell concave. Horrendous nose. Was the shape of one of those plastic birds of prey people buy to scare away other birds.

I feel like only the die hard and new skaters was buying those things. Way out of vouge.

For Powell I liked the black "mini logo" street Hawk and the hill bulldog. Those was functional shapes with good concave.

Some of my 80s SC boards had crazy concaves. Zorlac was like folded in half concaves. And I think Salva Duane and Olson got the very first concave bloards in history.

I also feel like things started to flatten out around the World era.
I had all flat shit for a while if I could help it.

The bad era started with baby boards. I quit off and on for a while. Then I saw a Rick board in the window of the ski shop.
It had some concave. That my Oyola. The yellow Kite graphic. I liked it it was a good board to come back k on.

Board reminded me of the last iteration of the barnyard board a little. I had a ton of used Barnyards from Marbleheaders who got their parents to buy one and quit.

I wonder how long they ran those?

Also my new deal in my closet has cray concave. Its shape is not functional att all. It smavks of medallion and the PS miller dog graphic has very little concave bit I think it's a mini.

They are from around the same era give or take I think.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 26, 2023, 01:24:44 PM
I like "W" concave the best.
Or "U"? Concave.

Flat in the center like a half pipe. With brand new dunks I'm not missing anything. All my flip tricks just work first t and then I chase that try all day like good lor man

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: toe_knee on July 26, 2023, 01:35:02 PM
Pangea jeans-- I think I've been sleeping on this and have been seeing them lately or noticing and the pants look nice.

I search the forum for background and couldn't find much (or on their website).  Anyone know who owners is/riders or where  I could go to try them on, or any thoughts on fit?  I like somewhat baggy but not crazy wide leg pants for skating.  I historically have stuck to basic khakis, volcom/vans type pants or Levis and trying to try something new-- in particular cuz all my broken in Levis are stained and I don't want to break in new Levis for skating.

Typically I'm a 32 x 32 at about 6 foot, 160-175 pound range depending on season/amount of skating, but will I end up with a goofy boy look (nothing wrong with that, but im a tall/skinny 37 year old, so doesn't really work) or normal 90s/2000s style comfortable skate pants?

Lol I’m 37 and wear nothing but butter santosuosso jeans and pangeas, deep into my Philly cosplay, as far as fit me and you are about the same height/weight and Jean size, I went a size up with the Pangeas as well as the butters, they taper quite a bit so you really don’t have to worry about looking goofy or having your jeans drag the ground, as far as finding them, you’ll prolly have to look for a stock list or some shit I already know my size so I just order them from whatever shop has them in stock online if I want a pair, I’d say get your size if you don’t wanna look too crazy and go up from there if you want a baggier jean, I’ve got a couple friends that just got their normal size and they don’t too crazy
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 231st Street on July 26, 2023, 05:42:33 PM
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Pangea jeans-- I think I've been sleeping on this and have been seeing them lately or noticing and the pants look nice.

I search the forum for background and couldn't find much (or on their website).  Anyone know who owners is/riders or where  I could go to try them on, or any thoughts on fit?  I like somewhat baggy but not crazy wide leg pants for skating.  I historically have stuck to basic khakis, volcom/vans type pants or Levis and trying to try something new-- in particular cuz all my broken in Levis are stained and I don't want to break in new Levis for skating.

Typically I'm a 32 x 32 at about 6 foot, 160-175 pound range depending on season/amount of skating, but will I end up with a goofy boy look (nothing wrong with that, but im a tall/skinny 37 year old, so doesn't really work) or normal 90s/2000s style comfortable skate pants?
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Lol I’m 37 and wear nothing but butter santosuosso jeans and pangeas, deep into my Philly cosplay, as far as fit me and you are about the same height/weight and Jean size, I went a size up with the Pangeas as well as the butters, they taper quite a bit so you really don’t have to worry about looking goofy or having your jeans drag the ground, as far as finding them, you’ll prolly have to look for a stock list or some shit I already know my size so I just order them from whatever shop has them in stock online if I want a pair, I’d say get your size if you don’t wanna look too crazy and go up from there if you want a baggier jean, I’ve got a couple friends that just got their normal size and they don’t too crazy

Awesome, thanks man!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on July 27, 2023, 12:19:43 PM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 27, 2023, 01:35:07 PM
I would lay the board on the grip with paper side up, trace the deck as best you can. Then, simply measure how much in you want the grip to sit, make a few reference marks, and draw a new outline that follows the old:
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on July 27, 2023, 06:31:43 PM
Pantograph or CNC or laser or die cutter
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lulz on July 27, 2023, 09:59:44 PM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)

Pantograph or CNC or laser or die cutter


Come on, some the prolitariate can do!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 27, 2023, 10:17:57 PM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)

2 easiest ways is get some fine line tape the size that you want left open, tape around the edge or graphic, then get a piece of masking paper get it to conform to the concave then puch you mounting bolt holes for a witness line(I’d mask over that area on the paper first so it doesn’t rip easily), then do a pencil rubing of the inside of the tape line, transfer paper to your grip(if it’s just an outline you can do it on the backing side of the grip) with a pen/pencil, cut it out and stick it.
Or the easiest way is get some clear contact paper, stick it to the board, punch you mounting holes for lining it up later, cut it like you would normally grip your board then just figure out how much wood you want showing, set that distance with a machinists square or divider compass and trace the outline of the board, peel contact paper off, stick to the grip side of your grip, trace/cut and it’s done.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 28, 2023, 04:06:36 AM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)

It depends on the angle in which you hold the cutter knife. If you lay your knife really flat on top of the grip, your cuts will go a bit deeper and show more of that top ply.

It's hard to explain for me, because English isn't my first language but I hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Samsquantch on July 28, 2023, 08:30:49 AM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)

If I was doing this, I'd double over some strips of masking tape to stick the grip to the deck with the backing still on, then scratch the shape into the grip with something metal like you do when gripping normally. Take it back off, then using a pair of scissors you're not fond of, follow the scratched in line but cutting a ¼" (or whatever you want) inside the scratched in silhouette.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bob george on July 29, 2023, 04:34:05 AM
Does anybody other than australians call spitfires "spitties"?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: breezy_again on July 29, 2023, 05:15:05 AM
Does anybody other than australians called spitfires "spitties"?
nope
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on July 29, 2023, 08:17:22 AM
Does anybody other than australians called spitfires "spitties"?

Only in Tasmania
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on August 01, 2023, 05:13:48 AM
are 8.125 decks usually shorter than 8.0 decks?

i had a quasi 8.0 a few months ago, loved it. honestly probably my favorite board i've ever had. ordered two quasi 8.125's (dims weren't listed) thinking i was sizing up but it'd still be the same shape/length just a lil bit wider....wrong. tail is like an inch shorter than an 8.0


fuck my life   
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 01, 2023, 05:45:10 AM
are 8.125 decks usually shorter than 8.0 decks?

i had a quasi 8.0 a few months ago, loved it. honestly probably my favorite board i've ever had. ordered two quasi 8.125's thinking i was sizing up but it'd still be the same shape/length but just a lil bit wider....wrong. tail is like an inch shorter than an 8.0


fuck my life

Quasi Boards manufactured by PS Stix dimensions are like this:

8" has 14.25" WB, 32.375" overall
8.125" has a 14.125" WB , 31.75" overall

so yes the 8.125" boards are slightly shorter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on August 01, 2023, 07:11:31 AM
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are 8.125 decks usually shorter than 8.0 decks?

i had a quasi 8.0 a few months ago, loved it. honestly probably my favorite board i've ever had. ordered two quasi 8.125's thinking i was sizing up but it'd still be the same shape/length but just a lil bit wider....wrong. tail is like an inch shorter than an 8.0


fuck my life
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Quasi Boards manufactured by PS Stix dimensions are like this:

8" has 14.25" WB, 32.375" overall
8.125" has a 14.125" WB , 31.75" overall

so yes the 8.125" boards are slightly shorter.

And measured flat across, subtract 0.5" from the listed length
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on August 01, 2023, 09:23:45 AM
anyone know the best way to grip a modern popsicle like this? Not the middle cut, but the with the top cut to let the color show.

(https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/95/1c/21/951c212577bd0a2261ffdd830e58efcf.jpg)

guide block and a blade
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 231st Street on August 01, 2023, 06:02:17 PM
What are the ultimate baggy pants measurements that are as baggy as one can go without looking goofy? Not such a serious question.  For those playing, please specify if you are talking khakis or jeans.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BoxStuffer on August 01, 2023, 07:40:06 PM
What are the ultimate baggy pants measurements that are as baggy as one can go without looking goofy? Not such a serious question.  For those playing, please specify if you are talking khakis or jeans.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108701.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108701.0)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on August 02, 2023, 03:46:49 AM
What are the ultimate baggy pants measurements that are as baggy as one can go without looking goofy? Not such a serious question.  For those playing, please specify if you are talking khakis or jeans.

There isn’t any. It’s almost completely subjective.
I think Japanese hakama look fucking cool.
Not great for skating, but even that has changed for me over the years. I never could roll with JNCO big, but what I like varies in the cut, length the fabric, and the skater.

I think Big Boys look great on a lot of people, if they are wearing their waist.
After not being able to find much baggy stuff through the 98-2018, I’m really enjoying the resurgence.

Maybe an unpopular opinion
Tastefully cut baggy stuff looks way better on older guys than tight/fitted stuff.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/98/42/799842908156b68f4543063f9bf06fc0.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: 231st Street on August 02, 2023, 09:05:16 AM
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What are the ultimate baggy pants measurements that are as baggy as one can go without looking goofy? Not such a serious question.  For those playing, please specify if you are talking khakis or jeans.
[close]

There isn’t any. It’s almost completely subjective.
I think Japanese hakama look fucking cool.
Not great for skating, but even that has changed for me over the years. I never could roll with JNCO big, but what I like varies in the cut, length the fabric, and the skater.

I think Big Boys look great on a lot of people, if they are wearing their waist.
After not being able to find much baggy stuff through the 98-2018, I’m really enjoying the resurgence.

Maybe an unpopular opinion
Tastefully cut baggy stuff looks way better on older guys than tight/fitted stuff.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/98/42/799842908156b68f4543063f9bf06fc0.jpg)

I'd gnar if I knew how.  Awesome picture.  Ive been going bigger in my khakis in the inseam lately.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on August 02, 2023, 10:20:37 AM
There were a style of baggy golfing trouser called Plus Fours, my grandfather decided to go one better and have a tailor make him some Plus Eights. Unfortunatley it was WWII, there was rationing in the UK and somebody snitched on him, he got a letter from the Goverment ordering him to hand in the trousers or have them made into skirts for his Wife.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Velcro Wallet on August 02, 2023, 03:58:56 PM
Does anyone have the same soul crushing, mind bending, fucked up dreams on the regular ( that you can remember for more than the first 10-20 seconds after waking up?)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 03, 2023, 10:52:36 AM
Okay pals, don't laugh.
I am in shoe madness hell right now.
Except for Nike I tried several shoes from various companies and can't seem to find a tolerable model to skate in. So far, Lakai Atlantic's are my favorite but it isn't always easy to get them here in Germany.

How are Fallen shoes nowadays?
I remember them being good. But that was like 2008.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 03, 2023, 12:22:01 PM
Did y'all see the flooding in Beijing? Holly shit!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 03, 2023, 01:26:19 PM
Okay pals, don't laugh.
I am in shoe madness hell right now.
Except for Nike I tried several shoes from various companies and can't seem to find a tolerable model to skate in. So far, Lakai Atlantic's are my favorite but it isn't always easy to get them here in Germany.

How are Fallen shoes nowadays?
I remember them being good. But that was like 2008.

I saw a pair of hot wax joints at the park on the weekend……look really durable and on the verge of being on trend…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on August 03, 2023, 01:49:29 PM
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What are the ultimate baggy pants measurements that are as baggy as one can go without looking goofy? Not such a serious question.  For those playing, please specify if you are talking khakis or jeans.
[close]

There isn’t any. It’s almost completely subjective.
I think Japanese hakama look fucking cool.
Not great for skating, but even that has changed for me over the years. I never could roll with JNCO big, but what I like varies in the cut, length the fabric, and the skater.

I think Big Boys look great on a lot of people, if they are wearing their waist.
After not being able to find much baggy stuff through the 98-2018, I’m really enjoying the resurgence.

Maybe an unpopular opinion
Tastefully cut baggy stuff looks way better on older guys than tight/fitted stuff.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/98/42/799842908156b68f4543063f9bf06fc0.jpg)
[close]

I'd gnar if I knew how.  Awesome picture.  Ive been going bigger in my khakis in the inseam lately.


(https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-01-2017/cS2C6J.gif)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2023, 12:28:02 AM
Okay pals, don't laugh.
I am in shoe madness hell right now.
Except for Nike I tried several shoes from various companies and can't seem to find a tolerable model to skate in. So far, Lakai Atlantic's are my favorite but it isn't always easy to get them here in Germany.

How are Fallen shoes nowadays?
I remember them being good. But that was like 2008.
Fallens are crap. What kind of shoes you prefer? NB# are the best for me. If you want something like vulc you could try 440. Ifnyoy want straight up vulc go for 272. If you want a thin cupsole but still supportive 508 are great and if you want to be 100% protected go for 808 or 1010 if you want the light version of a tank.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on August 04, 2023, 12:35:00 AM
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Okay pals, don't laugh.
I am in shoe madness hell right now.
Except for Nike I tried several shoes from various companies and can't seem to find a tolerable model to skate in. So far, Lakai Atlantic's are my favorite but it isn't always easy to get them here in Germany.

How are Fallen shoes nowadays?
I remember them being good. But that was like 2008.
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Fallens are crap. What kind of shoes you prefer? NB# are the best for me. If you want something like vulc you could try 440. Ifnyoy want straight up vulc go for 272. If you want a thin cupsole but still supportive 508 are great and if you want to be 100% protected go for 808 or 1010 if you want the light version of a tank.

I tried 440 in 7,5 and 8. Both sizes didn't fit as I would have liked. 7,5 too snug and 8 way to big. I usually wear a 7,5 in Lakai, Vans and Reebok. Sole Tech shoes aren't made for my feet anymore. They were nice back then but nowadays I never find a model which fits good. Will check the 272 and 508 out. I am not sure about the 1010. Toe area looks mad long and I can see my heel slip in them.
But thanks man.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2023, 12:45:37 AM
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Okay pals, don't laugh.
I am in shoe madness hell right now.
Except for Nike I tried several shoes from various companies and can't seem to find a tolerable model to skate in. So far, Lakai Atlantic's are my favorite but it isn't always easy to get them here in Germany.

How are Fallen shoes nowadays?
I remember them being good. But that was like 2008.
[close]
Fallens are crap. What kind of shoes you prefer? NB# are the best for me. If you want something like vulc you could try 440. Ifnyoy want straight up vulc go for 272. If you want a thin cupsole but still supportive 508 are great and if you want to be 100% protected go for 808 or 1010 if you want the light version of a tank.
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I tried 440 in 7,5 and 8. Both sizes didn't fit as I would have liked. 7,5 too snug and 8 way to big. I usually wear a 7,5 in Lakai, Vans and Reebok. Sole Tech shoes aren't made for my feet anymore. They were nice back then but nowadays I never find a model which fits good. Will check the 272 and 508 out. I am not sure about the 1010. Toe area looks mad long and I can see my heel slip in them.
But thanks man.
Toe area is not thar long, I'd say is average. Ofc try them if you can, on those I went TTS and they work good. If you're ever in Prague I can hook you up with some 808 thar are still ok so you can try them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MC3 on August 04, 2023, 11:36:33 AM
alright, it's gettin time to buy some new trucks. I've never been one for truck madness, but I'm starting to want to try something else out there. I'm going to omit what brand and version I have ridden for the past 4 years in an effort to be "transparent".

I am an averagely-ok skateboarder who tries to skate a bit of everything, but more or less skates slappies, ledges, wallies, and the occasional manual. My transition skills are actually terrible, but I am actively working on improving them. Not a big gap/stair/impact skater. I'd say I skate my trucks somewhere between tight and loose, probably more towards loose. Turning fast is fun but I also do appreciate stability. I skate an 8.5 with big-ish (56-58mm conical full) wheels, so I generally like my trucks to be lighter to offset the weight of everything else.

What kind of trucks match my riding style? I feel like thats enough info for the truck-heads to asses the situation.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2023, 12:01:37 PM
alright, it's gettin time to buy some new trucks. I've never been one for truck madness, but I'm starting to want to try something else out there. I'm going to omit what brand and version I have ridden for the past 4 years in an effort to be "transparent".

I am an averagely-ok skateboarder who tries to skate a bit of everything, but more or less skates slappies, ledges, wallies, and the occasional manual. My transition skills are actually terrible, but I am actively working on improving them. Not a big gap/stair/impact skater. I'd say I skate my trucks somewhere between tight and loose, probably more towards loose. Turning fast is fun but I also do appreciate stability. I skate an 8.5 with big-ish (56-58mm conical full) wheels, so I generally like my trucks to be lighter to offset the weight of everything else.

What kind of trucks match my riding style? I feel like thats enough info for the truck-heads to asses the situation.
I'd recommend V-Lights 5.8
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on August 04, 2023, 01:06:26 PM
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alright, it's gettin time to buy some new trucks. I've never been one for truck madness, but I'm starting to want to try something else out there. I'm going to omit what brand and version I have ridden for the past 4 years in an effort to be "transparent".

I am an averagely-ok skateboarder who tries to skate a bit of everything, but more or less skates slappies, ledges, wallies, and the occasional manual. My transition skills are actually terrible, but I am actively working on improving them. Not a big gap/stair/impact skater. I'd say I skate my trucks somewhere between tight and loose, probably more towards loose. Turning fast is fun but I also do appreciate stability. I skate an 8.5 with big-ish (56-58mm conical full) wheels, so I generally like my trucks to be lighter to offset the weight of everything else.

What kind of trucks match my riding style? I feel like thats enough info for the truck-heads to asses the situation.
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I'd recommend V-Lights 5.8
id say 6.1 v-hollows
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 04, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
Nah, this guy needs Thunder Team Hollow 149s, riser optional.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MC3 on August 05, 2023, 08:34:42 AM
Nah, this guy needs Thunder Team Hollow 149s, riser optional.
The exact truck that is currently on my board haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on August 07, 2023, 06:36:21 AM
Does anybody have an idea as to how long spray can lacquer stays mixed after shaking the shit out of it? Specifically, there’s a curb that’s roughly a ten minute skate from my place, and I’m wondering how much the lacquer and propellant would separate (if at all) on the skate over there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Vintagebody on August 07, 2023, 07:29:00 AM
How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on August 07, 2023, 08:21:29 AM
How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
Dane Barker, Josh Wilson, and Gilbert Crockett all seem to grind just fine on Ventures. Bobby skates Pulaski on Ventures.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on August 07, 2023, 09:01:22 AM
How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
They bend and break exactly like thunders, which isn't a lot in my experience.
On the other hand, over the last few months I've seen a lot of people around me break thunder kingpins, so maybe something's going on right now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on August 07, 2023, 09:02:35 AM
Ventures grind just fine on crusty ledges and curbs, in my experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on August 07, 2023, 09:11:14 AM
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How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
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Dane Barker, Josh Wilson, and Gilbert Crockett all seem to grind just fine on Ventures. Bobby skates Pulaski on Ventures.

everyone skates pulaski on Ventures. I couldn't believe my eyes, it was like a venture & krooked board wonderland. probably 75% of the locals were on that set up, it was awesome.

All that being said, I like my ventures they grind well imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on August 07, 2023, 09:14:10 AM
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How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
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Dane Barker, Josh Wilson, and Gilbert Crockett all seem to grind just fine on Ventures. Bobby skates Pulaski on Ventures.
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everyone skates pulaski on Ventures. I couldn't believe my eyes, it was like a venture & krooked board wonderland. probably 75% of the locals were on that set up, it was awesome.

All that being said, I like my ventures they grind well imo

fellow DC native here and my current set up is a Una Krooked with 5.6 V-Lights  8) It's the Bobby effect, Krooked's have been a DMV favorite for decades
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on August 07, 2023, 09:55:26 AM
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How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
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Dane Barker, Josh Wilson, and Gilbert Crockett all seem to grind just fine on Ventures. Bobby skates Pulaski on Ventures.
[close]

everyone skates pulaski on Ventures. I couldn't believe my eyes, it was like a venture & krooked board wonderland. probably 75% of the locals were on that set up, it was awesome.

All that being said, I like my ventures they grind well imo
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fellow DC native here and my current set up is a Una Krooked with 5.6 V-Lights  8) It's the Bobby effect, Krooked's have been a DMV favorite for decades

I loved it. I went to crushed to buy a board and you can ride any board you want as long as it's a bobby twin tail (shout out to crushed, guys were awesome). I bought a krooked but blew it by showing up to the plaza on thunders :(

Everyone was super friendly and the vibes were great on a hot friday summer evening
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 07, 2023, 09:58:52 AM
They grind slower/slow down during the grind more. Papa Ben details this a lot, but you can go marginally faster or just lean into grinds differently to compensate. Its more of a learning curve, but the grind is an oft-cited negative regardless of what is trending.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on August 07, 2023, 03:42:46 PM
Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 07, 2023, 06:26:07 PM
Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?


Absolutely, 100% without a doubt.

Simple or silly as that is, that is the way of it for myself, as well as a few other people I know, when we have talked about it.

Sometimes it can be the smallest thing too, like a ding in the board, or scratch in the grip that will bug me to no end at a specific time, but will not worry me the least at other times too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on August 07, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 07, 2023, 06:49:18 PM
What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.


More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on August 07, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
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How "bad" are venture's really, on crusty ledges?
I dont vibe with Thunders anymore... too many issues like bent axle, broken kingpins....
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Dane Barker, Josh Wilson, and Gilbert Crockett all seem to grind just fine on Ventures. Bobby skates Pulaski on Ventures.
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everyone skates pulaski on Ventures. I couldn't believe my eyes, it was like a venture & krooked board wonderland. probably 75% of the locals were on that set up, it was awesome.

All that being said, I like my ventures they grind well imo
[close]

fellow DC native here and my current set up is a Una Krooked with 5.6 V-Lights  8) It's the Bobby effect, Krooked's have been a DMV favorite for decades
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I loved it. I went to crushed to buy a board and you can ride any board you want as long as it's a bobby twin tail (shout out to crushed, guys were awesome). I bought a krooked but blew it by showing up to the plaza on thunders :(

Everyone was super friendly and the vibes were great on a hot friday summer evening
DC area fam here. Just stopping by to say Crushed is a great shop. Brian and all the associates are really good dudes. (and that I skate ventures)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on August 07, 2023, 10:07:56 PM
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Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?
[close]


Absolutely, 100% without a doubt.

Simple or silly as that is, that is the way of it for myself, as well as a few other people I know, when we have talked about it.

Sometimes it can be the smallest thing too, like a ding in the board, or scratch in the grip that will bug me to no end at a specific time, but will not worry me the least at other times too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 07, 2023, 10:10:32 PM
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What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
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More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.

It's not sun facing the boards most likely it's the way they were pressed and cured. Wood glue melting temp is far above the temp of a board in a window- skating outside on a hot day in the sun would be hotter. It is likely a combo of things, but probably not as much pressure when pressed or moved to cure and there is something with the way the glue disperses or potential moisture in the veneers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 07, 2023, 10:11:29 PM
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Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?
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Absolutely, 100% without a doubt.

Simple or silly as that is, that is the way of it for myself, as well as a few other people I know, when we have talked about it.

Sometimes it can be the smallest thing too, like a ding in the board, or scratch in the grip that will bug me to no end at a specific time, but will not worry me the least at other times too.

I really wish. My last setup was something I was really stoked on but I skated terrible on it and snapped it on a flat ground Tre flip. What I'm riding now is the opposite in terms of stoke and quality.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Phillyflared on August 07, 2023, 10:27:45 PM
Been looking to make some skate storage in back of my car for boards and curious what anyone else has going? I have Impreza for reference
Looking for inspo/refernece reminded me of Dyrdek's UAV from a 411vm way back when. It was all murdered out and fully kitted out w/places for a generator/boards/flatbar bolted to frame underneath. Think it was a Suburban or something.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 08, 2023, 12:13:55 AM
Been looking to make some skate storage in back of my car for boards and curious what anyone else has going? I have Impreza for reference
Looking for inspo/refernece reminded me of Dyrdek's UAV from a 411vm way back when. It was all murdered out and fully kitted out w/places for a generator/boards/flatbar bolted to frame underneath. Think it was a Suburban or something.

I've been debating buying storage crate/block things to place in the trunk to better organize essentials and skate gear (2017 Civic here)

I've tried to pause videos of those suburbans/vans that skate brand TMs run for ideas
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 08, 2023, 12:38:30 AM
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Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?
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Absolutely, 100% without a doubt.

Simple or silly as that is, that is the way of it for myself, as well as a few other people I know, when we have talked about it.

Sometimes it can be the smallest thing too, like a ding in the board, or scratch in the grip that will bug me to no end at a specific time, but will not worry me the least at other times too.
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100%
Sometimes you have shoes that when you look down to pop a trick you're like "damnnnn" and sometimes "damn..."
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 08, 2023, 01:54:55 AM
Do you feel like you skate better with gear you're stoked on? Specifically regarding superficial parts of the set-up (graphics, wheel color, grip art, etc). Of course any noticeable difference is a placebo effect, but some boards are more fun to skate because the artwork is awesome and it gets me hyped to ride that board.

Say you got a new deck and the graphic is the most kickass art you've ever had on a board - are you having a better, or more productive, or more enjoyable session when you skate it? Or does that hype wear off when you throw down? Or does it not matter to you at all?

I was thinking about this awhile ago. When I am really stoked about my deck or shoes, I tend to skate a bit more carefully since I don't want to destroy anything too fast. At least in the beginning of the life span of those products.
When I am semi stoked about something I skate a bit more reckless. Now you could think, if I would get a Plan B deck and Cariuma shoes I would be hucking halfcab flips down El Toro, but that's not how that works. ^^

What bugs me too no end are vertical scratches across decks, don't know why that is, but that's a real inconvenience. That's when I pull out the boardslides on ledges.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 08, 2023, 03:34:09 AM
Anybody skated Telfords recently? Found a pair in a nice color for a decent-ish price
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Post by: BALARGUE on August 08, 2023, 04:00:51 AM
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What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
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More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.
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It's not sun facing the boards most likely it's the way they were pressed and cured. Wood glue melting temp is far above the temp of a board in a window- skating outside on a hot day in the sun would be hotter. It is likely a combo of things, but probably not as much pressure when pressed or moved to cure and there is something with the way the glue disperses or potential moisture in the veneers.

while you're right that process, curing and moisture play a larger role in warping, you don't need glue to literally melt to alter the quality of the bonding with wood. It's still recommended to avoid temperature variations when you're storing plywood.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 08, 2023, 04:03:11 AM
Anybody skated Telfords recently? Found a pair in a nice color for a decent-ish price

If you can get them for under 80 bucks, they are fine.
But do yourself a favor and get those newer ones with the XLK outsole. It's the same outsole they use for the Atlantic shoe for example. The first outsole they used on the Telford isn't that good in my experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on August 08, 2023, 04:49:37 AM
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If you can get them for under 80 bucks, they are fine.
But do yourself a favor and get those newer ones with the XLK outsole. It's the same outsole they use for the Atlantic shoe for example. The first outsole they used on the Telford isn't that good in my experience.

I have no idea which ones I had, but I skated some Telfords and they were good but the sole definitely wore out super quick. But yeah, otherwise they were a great shoe and I’d skate them again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 08, 2023, 07:41:37 AM
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What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
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More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.
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It's not sun facing the boards most likely it's the way they were pressed and cured. Wood glue melting temp is far above the temp of a board in a window- skating outside on a hot day in the sun would be hotter. It is likely a combo of things, but probably not as much pressure when pressed or moved to cure and there is something with the way the glue disperses or potential moisture in the veneers.
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while you're right that process, curing and moisture play a larger role in warping, you don't need glue to literally melt to alter the quality of the bonding with wood. It's still recommended to avoid temperature variations when you're storing plywood.


That makes sense.


From my comment on the sun in the shop window, I have this to add.

A certain shop I used to be around a bit would often have a few boards in the front window and more often than not those boards, especially the one stood up on an angle right in the corner would always end up so badly warped that it became a game to see what happened to that board in the corner.

Sure enough almost every single brand, different woodshops, checked to be nice and straight, then left long enough would end up warped to some degree, some way more than others, which was fun to see but sucked for anyone who wanted the board from the window.

I made a point of telling anyone keen on that board to check if it was warped, but I know others were happy to sell whatever was there if the person was keen enough without a second thought, which I didn't particularly agree with, but it wasn't my shop so there was not a whole lot I could say anyway.


Another shop I worked at had complete board racks in full morning sun every day (no window tinting or anything there either so the front room got pretty warm) and some of those completes left long enough would always end up warped too.

Sure it wouldn't happen to every board left in direct sunlight, but I make sure I don't have anything I care about in direct sun for too long anywhere I go.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on August 08, 2023, 08:33:34 AM
How much do likes actually help YouTube channels, just watched the pier 7 episode on Thrasher and noticed 3.5k likes but 77k views, despite never hearing a bad word about it, like everyone in the comments loves it plus on here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 08, 2023, 10:53:24 AM
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What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
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More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.
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It's not sun facing the boards most likely it's the way they were pressed and cured. Wood glue melting temp is far above the temp of a board in a window- skating outside on a hot day in the sun would be hotter. It is likely a combo of things, but probably not as much pressure when pressed or moved to cure and there is something with the way the glue disperses or potential moisture in the veneers.
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while you're right that process, curing and moisture play a larger role in warping, you don't need glue to literally melt to alter the quality of the bonding with wood. It's still recommended to avoid temperature variations when you're storing plywood.

Definitely- you never want huge swings and it doesn't have to fully melt. I think that boards sitting in a shop even with sun on them is less likely to cause that then them sitting in some kind of storage container during shipping. A really hot car trunk in somewhere like Phoenix would likely be the worst high swing I can think of, but most cars, houses, shops, and garages are probably fine.

I think people are more quick to blame their local environment on warping than construction, but I'd think that rushing construction is more likely. I remember during the Covid drought people were reporting on here that they had a lot of BBS decks breaking or having issue and I was talking to a shop owner last week that noted that a lot of warped boards were coming out of there during the pandemic too. I wonder if the process was rushed just to get stuff out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 08, 2023, 06:57:32 PM
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What causes decks to warp? Moisture? Pressed incorrectly? Too much / little glue? Stacking?

Don't think I've ever skated a warped one and wouldn't be able to tell if I got 1.
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More often than not it is from heat, or incorrect storage, but I feel like there must be something in either the process or the wood itself that tends to cause more issues.

Often boards left on the wall or in shop windows, especially sun facing, tended to warp more than others, but other times, it is just seemingly random that quite a few boards from a run will warp more than others.

To stand on a warped board, or even putting on on a counter, it will tilt more one way than the other, or if set up, one wheel is often off the ground, when trucks are in a normal position.  Most of the time it is not so bad, but some boards will definitely feel weird if they warp a certain way for how you stand on a board, eg front heel side sitting up more than the toe can be the worst one.

People will often have different ways of dealing with it, but I offset a board on a flat surface, like a garage, with small pieces of wood, then weigh it down under other boards and put bricks on top and leave it for a week, which pushes it the other way and evens it out.  I have had almost all the boards come back to straight or almost straight from this and skated well, but some just can't be helped and will warp back again in no time.  They are the ones I think there was something in the wood that makes them do that, more so than an environmental factor at play.
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It's not sun facing the boards most likely it's the way they were pressed and cured. Wood glue melting temp is far above the temp of a board in a window- skating outside on a hot day in the sun would be hotter. It is likely a combo of things, but probably not as much pressure when pressed or moved to cure and there is something with the way the glue disperses or potential moisture in the veneers.
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while you're right that process, curing and moisture play a larger role in warping, you don't need glue to literally melt to alter the quality of the bonding with wood. It's still recommended to avoid temperature variations when you're storing plywood.
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Definitely- you never want huge swings and it doesn't have to fully melt. I think that boards sitting in a shop even with sun on them is less likely to cause that then them sitting in some kind of storage container during shipping. A really hot car trunk in somewhere like Phoenix would likely be the worst high swing I can think of, but most cars, houses, shops, and garages are probably fine.

I think people are more quick to blame their local environment on warping than construction, but I'd think that rushing construction is more likely. I remember during the Covid drought people were reporting on here that they had a lot of BBS decks breaking or having issue and I was talking to a shop owner last week that noted that a lot of warped boards were coming out of there during the pandemic too. I wonder if the process was rushed just to get stuff out.


It was definitely rushed and corners were cut in the production process which caused a lot of quality issues.

Things feel like they are nicely back to normal now though, happy to say.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Phillyflared on August 08, 2023, 07:51:56 PM
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Been looking to make some skate storage in back of my car for boards and curious what anyone else has going? I have Impreza for reference
Looking for inspo/refernece reminded me of Dyrdek's UAV from a 411vm way back when. It was all murdered out and fully kitted out w/places for a generator/boards/flatbar bolted to frame underneath. Think it was a Suburban or something.
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I've been debating buying storage crate/block things to place in the trunk to better organize essentials and skate gear (2017 Civic here)


I've tried to pause videos of those suburbans/vans that skate brand TMs run for ideas
Thinking probably best to find a small storage box for wax, rub brick, tools, etc and have backpack w/ spare set of clothes/towel. I'm def not a carpenter nor do I have a garage to work in.
Have you see anything interesting or useful? Mainly I see team vans, but that's overkill for my needs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 08, 2023, 10:30:17 PM
I get the storage for tools and parts but doesn’t building in storage lead to leaving your board in your car…..which always ends in an instagram post with a photo of your broken window and a sad face? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Phillyflared on August 08, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
I get the storage for tools and parts but doesn’t building in storage lead to leaving your board in your car…..which always ends in an instagram post with a photo of your broken window and a sad face?
Definitely a good point, but I've always brought my board inside. Always felt like the bushings got softer/harder depending on temp and if it's super hot, boards get soft.
Weirdly though, I've started leaving my skate shoes in the car.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 09, 2023, 02:28:11 AM
Any pal could chip in on the Telford vs Atlantic topic?
I know I need to go +.5 on Telfords, wonder it the same goes for Atlantic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 09, 2023, 04:15:55 AM
Any pal could chip in on the Telford vs Atlantic topic?
I know I need to go +.5 on Telfords, wonder it the same goes for Atlantic.

I don't know if that helps you, but I like my skate shoes really snug. In NB# I need a US 7 but all Lakai shoes I ever had, I needed a 7,5 US. But yeah, Telford and Atlantic were both a 7,5 US for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on August 09, 2023, 06:43:55 AM
Any pal could chip in on the Telford vs Atlantic topic?
I know I need to go +.5 on Telfords, wonder it the same goes for Atlantic.

I'm wearing the Telfords as chillers now and they fit TTS, if you have a regular shaped foot. I'm usually 9.5, but the toe area was really cramped, didn't help that I have huge bunions. Used a shoe stretcher and worn them around town for 3 times, still too tight, gonna need a few more days in the shoe stretcher.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on August 09, 2023, 07:00:50 AM
Any pal could chip in on the Telford vs Atlantic topic?
I know I need to go +.5 on Telfords, wonder it the same goes for Atlantic.
Atlantic were tts for me, for a snug fit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 09, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
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Been looking to make some skate storage in back of my car for boards and curious what anyone else has going? I have Impreza for reference
Looking for inspo/refernece reminded me of Dyrdek's UAV from a 411vm way back when. It was all murdered out and fully kitted out w/places for a generator/boards/flatbar bolted to frame underneath. Think it was a Suburban or something.
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I've been debating buying storage crate/block things to place in the trunk to better organize essentials and skate gear (2017 Civic here)

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I've tried to pause videos of those suburbans/vans that skate brand TMs run for ideas
Thinking probably best to find a small storage box for wax, rub brick, tools, etc and have backpack w/ spare set of clothes/towel. I'm def not a carpenter nor do I have a garage to work in.
Have you see anything interesting or useful? Mainly I see team vans, but that's overkill for my needs
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I get the storage for tools and parts but doesn’t building in storage lead to leaving your board in your car…..which always ends in an instagram post with a photo of your broken window and a sad face?
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Definitely a good point, but I've always brought my board inside. Always felt like the bushings got softer/harder depending on temp and if it's super hot, boards get soft.
Weirdly though, I've started leaving my skate shoes in the car.


For the most part, it is only when your stuff, be it skateboard, bag or whatever else is clearly visible that things get broken into easily.

If you keep things covered, or hidden, there is way less chance that your car will be broken into.  I know that is not always the case, but it is one of those things, that random temptation of someone passing by and seeing something in a car, vs with my own car clearly seeing hand prints on every window but not being touched, whereas two other cars around mine in the carpark were broken into, one night in a sketchy area when we were working late, and I had a lot of stuff in the car at that time, just covered by black cloth, and nothing visible.


That said, I usually keep boards or completes in cardboard boxes too, along with spare parts all in their own boxes, so if I need to do anything it is a dozen boxes to pull out, rather than having a ton of loose stuff and taking ages to get anything in or out, so sort of compartmentalised like a TM van but not to the same extent.

I have a small sedan, for reference, so it is good to have a boot / back end I can close and lock with everything tucked away.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on August 09, 2023, 08:39:01 PM
How a deck sounds vs how it feels

Recently picked up some decks and they sounded waterlogged, didn't have the crisp snap of a BBS when I tapped it against the ground without trucks or when it's setup and I snap the deck to my hand. But when I'm riding them they feel just fine.

Crailtap / DSM decks have a very deep resonance when you tap the deck against the ground, like the epoxy or press method they use compresses the plys too much resulting in an overly stiff deck.

I know guys who write off decks that sound off, but those I'm riding feel fine. Not exceptional like a BBS but hardly anything feels like a BBS.

Judging a deck by how it sounds is the most un-scientific approach to judging it's longevity, but is there any truth to the sound of a deck or is it just baloney? I want to believe the latter, I need 1 less factor of madness in my life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on August 09, 2023, 09:09:21 PM
I've definetely felt that, BBS has never impressed me for that exact reason. They skate fine but feeling is off when listening the sounds.

I think it has more to do with what i'm used to as i used to exclusively skate overly stiff DSM boards. Something about that stiffness makes my brain feel like it holds pop longer but who really knows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Firebert on August 09, 2023, 09:24:29 PM
I love the sound of a flight deck snap. Very crispy.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Phillyflared on August 09, 2023, 10:18:48 PM
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Been looking to make some skate storage in back of my car for boards and curious what anyone else has going? I have Impreza for reference
Looking for inspo/refernece reminded me of Dyrdek's UAV from a 411vm way back when. It was all murdered out and fully kitted out w/places for a generator/boards/flatbar bolted to frame underneath. Think it was a Suburban or something.
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I've been debating buying storage crate/block things to place in the trunk to better organize essentials and skate gear (2017 Civic here)

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I've tried to pause videos of those suburbans/vans that skate brand TMs run for ideas
Thinking probably best to find a small storage box for wax, rub brick, tools, etc and have backpack w/ spare set of clothes/towel. I'm def not a carpenter nor do I have a garage to work in.
Have you see anything interesting or useful? Mainly I see team vans, but that's overkill for my needs
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I get the storage for tools and parts but doesn’t building in storage lead to leaving your board in your car…..which always ends in an instagram post with a photo of your broken window and a sad face?
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Definitely a good point, but I've always brought my board inside. Always felt like the bushings got softer/harder depending on temp and if it's super hot, boards get soft.
Weirdly though, I've started leaving my skate shoes in the car.
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For the most part, it is only when your stuff, be it skateboard, bag or whatever else is clearly visible that things get broken into easily.

If you keep things covered, or hidden, there is way less chance that your car will be broken into.  I know that is not always the case, but it is one of those things, that random temptation of someone passing by and seeing something in a car, vs with my own car clearly seeing hand prints on every window but not being touched, whereas two other cars around mine in the carpark were broken into, one night in a sketchy area when we were working late, and I had a lot of stuff in the car at that time, just covered by black cloth, and nothing visible.


That said, I usually keep boards or completes in cardboard boxes too, along with spare parts all in their own boxes, so if I need to do anything it is a dozen boxes to pull out, rather than having a ton of loose stuff and taking ages to get anything in or out, so sort of compartmentalised like a TM van but not to the same extent.

I have a small sedan, for reference, so it is good to have a boot / back end I can close and lock with everything tucked away.
Board and shoe box it is!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 09, 2023, 10:44:20 PM
I always just expect my car to be broken into…..like once a year…..doesn’t matter if anything is in sight or not….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 10, 2023, 07:30:46 AM
How a deck sounds vs how it feels

Recently picked up some decks and they sounded waterlogged, didn't have the crisp snap of a BBS when I tapped it against the ground without trucks or when it's setup and I snap the deck to my hand. But when I'm riding them they feel just fine.

Crailtap / DSM decks have a very deep resonance when you tap the deck against the ground, like the epoxy or press method they use compresses the plys too much resulting in an overly stiff deck.

I know guys who write off decks that sound off, but those I'm riding feel fine. Not exceptional like a BBS but hardly anything feels like a BBS.

Judging a deck by how it sounds is the most un-scientific approach to judging it's longevity, but is there any truth to the sound of a deck or is it just baloney? I want to believe the latter, I need 1 less factor of madness in my life.

i noticed the sound of my PS Stix board is a lot more "stiff" or "Flat" sounding than my BBS boards (sounds more like a Dutch Clog hitting the floor). as far as the way it snaps, both of them feel almost identical. I didnt notice any difference transitioning between them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 10, 2023, 08:10:20 AM
I always just expect my car to be broken into…..like once a year…..doesn’t matter if anything is in sight or not….

i suppose that is the tradeoff of living in a small town. i have a problem enough of leaving my skateboards at spots or dropping my wallet or other stupid shit, but have never heard of people getting cars broken into much out here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 10, 2023, 12:19:11 PM
My right foot hurt very bad half the day. Went skating anyway, it doesn't seem to hurt anymore. It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone on here had that before?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 10, 2023, 01:54:14 PM
My right foot hurt very bad half the day. Went skating anyway, it doesn't seem to hurt anymore. It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone on here had that before?

Increased blood flow padded the area. I have hammertoe that pretty much always feels like I’m standing on a marble. Once I start skating it stops hurting and the pain returns a few hours later. The human body is wild.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MC3 on August 11, 2023, 01:08:24 PM
Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on August 11, 2023, 01:20:25 PM
Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?


you're not gonna cone F4's. you can move them front to back, right side, left side, ect, ect... and that will even out any wheel size differences, there's no need to flip F4's inside out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FrenchSkater on August 11, 2023, 02:01:02 PM
Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on August 11, 2023, 03:20:11 PM
I'd definitely listen to your specialist or at the very least try an FP, Remind or preferably Superfeet insoles. I've been running the FP gamechangers for the last few years but will be switching to Superfeet once I'm done with these dunks . I can say they definitely help my knees from getting sore as quickly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: KidCarl on August 11, 2023, 04:26:01 PM
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How a deck sounds vs how it feels

Recently picked up some decks and they sounded waterlogged, didn't have the crisp snap of a BBS when I tapped it against the ground without trucks or when it's setup and I snap the deck to my hand. But when I'm riding them they feel just fine.

Crailtap / DSM decks have a very deep resonance when you tap the deck against the ground, like the epoxy or press method they use compresses the plys too much resulting in an overly stiff deck.

I know guys who write off decks that sound off, but those I'm riding feel fine. Not exceptional like a BBS but hardly anything feels like a BBS.

Judging a deck by how it sounds is the most un-scientific approach to judging it's longevity, but is there any truth to the sound of a deck or is it just baloney? I want to believe the latter, I need 1 less factor of madness in my life.
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i noticed the sound of my PS Stix board is a lot more "stiff" or "Flat" sounding than my BBS boards (sounds more like a Dutch Clog hitting the floor). as far as the way it snaps, both of them feel almost identical. I didnt notice any difference transitioning between them.
Same, my last pstix deck felt stiff and almost too solid, and weirdly felt like it had no life to it, or "energy". Not trying to be all hippy dippy but a BBS deck in comparison just felt better, the wood seemed nicer, and one I got more attached to. The ps stix board lost pop in a few weeks and I was glad to get off of it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: KidCarl on August 11, 2023, 04:31:23 PM
I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 11, 2023, 04:37:01 PM
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Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?
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you're not gonna cone F4's. you can move them front to back, right side, left side, ect, ect... and that will even out any wheel size differences, there's no need to flip F4's inside out.


It comes down to how someone skates.

I just got a set of F4 back from someone who had never rotated them, so the starting 56 mm, now 55 (front heel) 54 and solidly coned (front toe) 52 (back heel) and 51 slightly coned (back toe) I was just wondering what the person was doing for however long they had them to wear like that, but most people who do rotate wheels never have those sort of end results.

Front toe and back toe to some degree wear more on the outside edge, front heel not much at all, back heel wears more on the inside edge, so as said, rotating them in various ways usually keeps any issues from coming up too much, more so front toe to back heel, back toe to front heel, then to back heel if needed.

Any asymmetrical shaped wheel can have issues though, especially if you don't want to ever flip them over and skate them inwards, but I haven't seen the new ones to see if they are center set or offset in the bearing seat.  If they are center set, then it is not such a big deal to flip them over, but if offset, then you are going to have some very different experiences skating them graphics out or graphics in.


I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals


Almost every other shape on the market is symmetrical, so it doesn't matter if you ride them graphics in or out and a lot of people flip them with odd wear patterns too, so some will be in and some out on the same board.  A "cool way" to do it for a lot of people was three in and one out, not that I have ever been into the cool way to do things, but I think they always had the back heel out so they wouldn't have to look at the graphic but still showed what wheel they were on, or something like that.

For those that remove graphics, it makes it easier to ride them any which way you like, but more often than not, graphics in was the more simple and clean look from the 90s right through to the present.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 12, 2023, 02:47:33 AM
Don't look further this is the academic answer you're looking for  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on August 12, 2023, 09:33:17 AM
anyone try hopps boards? do they have good shapes?
i like gx board shapes fyi
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 12, 2023, 12:17:49 PM
All wheels will cone eventually if you skate them long enough or hard enough. 100% of wheels I've owned and skated have coned in some amount. Including F4 (skated 3-4 sets over the last few years)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 12, 2023, 01:18:10 PM
Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?

I use Superfeet insoles in all shoes but Tiagos. I tried Remind and thought they sucked but they at least have useful arch support. FP don't, even if you heat mold them the foam still ends up too soft and doesn't actually push into the rear of your arch. I'm 37 and on days I don't skate I rock climb and I find my joints feel more recovered when I am using supportive insoles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on August 13, 2023, 04:15:07 AM
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Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?
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I use Superfeet insoles in all shoes but Tiagos. I tried Remind and thought they sucked but they at least have useful arch support. FP don't, even if you heat mold them the foam still ends up too soft and doesn't actually push into the rear of your arch. I'm 37 and on days I don't skate I rock climb and I find my joints feel more recovered when I am using supportive insoles.

I also use superfeet and recommend them. If you have insurance or it’s not prohibitively expensive, I’d suggest trying orthotics made for you by the specialist, and if you don’t like them try superfeet, then the other insoles. I’d imagine correcting for a difference in leg length could really help. Personally, I really disliked the orthotics I had made for me and reverted to superfeet, but you may have a different experience given that I only needed the arch support. Goddamn I need caffeine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 13, 2023, 07:47:39 AM
anyone try hopps boards? do they have good shapes?
i like gx board shapes fyi

Hoops uses the BBS generic shapes but did do a Clutch run during Covid. These shapes are really the most in between popsicles out- not pointy, not square, kicks are medium steepness and medium lengths. If you skate 8.38 and up the WB will be longer than a GX.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on August 14, 2023, 05:35:10 AM
I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene? 
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Post by: backside_frontside on August 14, 2023, 06:30:11 AM
I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.
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Post by: Uncle Flea on August 14, 2023, 07:32:35 AM
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alright, it's gettin time to buy some new trucks. I've never been one for truck madness, but I'm starting to want to try something else out there. I'm going to omit what brand and version I have ridden for the past 4 years in an effort to be "transparent".

I am an averagely-ok skateboarder who tries to skate a bit of everything, but more or less skates slappies, ledges, wallies, and the occasional manual. My transition skills are actually terrible, but I am actively working on improving them. Not a big gap/stair/impact skater. I'd say I skate my trucks somewhere between tight and loose, probably more towards loose. Turning fast is fun but I also do appreciate stability. I skate an 8.5 with big-ish (56-58mm conical full) wheels, so I generally like my trucks to be lighter to offset the weight of everything else.

What kind of trucks match my riding style? I feel like thats enough info for the truck-heads to asses the situation.
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I'd recommend V-Lights 5.8
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id say 6.1 v-hollows

Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!
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Post by: Uncle Flea on August 14, 2023, 07:46:28 AM
I need help finding an old PSA TV commercial about HIV.

I can't remember how it starts but it's filmed from the pov of someone who goes up the fire escape and into the bed room of a young person who is depicted of having the virus and definitely didn't want this person in their room.

The hook from song BOOM BOOM by Vengaboys plays in the background and I think it winds down like the tape is getting eaten after just one bar.

The kid in the bed gets up real fast looking like they are scared of who ever just popped into their room with a camera.

It's a very confusing commercial.

It's like Steve Irwin climbed the fire escape with a boom box and a camera and is trying to subdue the person who was just laying in bed in their underwear.

I believe it's been intentionally scrubbed from the web. Probably the band didn't give permission for the song to be used as it doesn't appear on their Wikipedia.

I just wanna see it. It gave me nightmares and shit. I wanna see it once more

Plz help me find.
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Post by: KidCarl on August 14, 2023, 07:49:05 AM
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Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?
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you're not gonna cone F4's. you can move them front to back, right side, left side, ect, ect... and that will even out any wheel size differences, there's no need to flip F4's inside out.
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It comes down to how someone skates.

I just got a set of F4 back from someone who had never rotated them, so the starting 56 mm, now 55 (front heel) 54 and solidly coned (front toe) 52 (back heel) and 51 slightly coned (back toe) I was just wondering what the person was doing for however long they had them to wear like that, but most people who do rotate wheels never have those sort of end results.

Front toe and back toe to some degree wear more on the outside edge, front heel not much at all, back heel wears more on the inside edge, so as said, rotating them in various ways usually keeps any issues from coming up too much, more so front toe to back heel, back toe to front heel, then to back heel if needed.

Any asymmetrical shaped wheel can have issues though, especially if you don't want to ever flip them over and skate them inwards, but I haven't seen the new ones to see if they are center set or offset in the bearing seat.  If they are center set, then it is not such a big deal to flip them over, but if offset, then you are going to have some very different experiences skating them graphics out or graphics in.


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I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals
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Almost every other shape on the market is symmetrical, so it doesn't matter if you ride them graphics in or out and a lot of people flip them with odd wear patterns too, so some will be in and some out on the same board.  A "cool way" to do it for a lot of people was three in and one out, not that I have ever been into the cool way to do things, but I think they always had the back heel out so they wouldn't have to look at the graphic but still showed what wheel they were on, or something like that.

For those that remove graphics, it makes it easier to ride them any which way you like, but more often than not, graphics in was the more simple and clean look from the 90s right through to the present.
Sweet, I was thinking it would mess with the lock in qualities. I know what you mean, doesn't Jake Hayes ride three white with colored up front? My brain can't even comprehend it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on August 14, 2023, 09:36:03 AM
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I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?
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I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.


Yeah they can be a bit moody. Like a teenager who hates their parents and loves fa/hockey. Also I’m like over thirty so I might feel a little silly indulging with youth trends. How insecure ahaha.. To be fair I’m a little bit moody so why not tho..

But at the same time car wheels are black why aren’t they white? I don’t even know how this counts in? I mean ride a hot rod type of setup so I suppose..
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Post by: Made In China on August 14, 2023, 09:43:10 AM
I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?
I've been skating pink wheels for well over a year now, and I've been really enjoying them. I actually want to try to get some black wheels after these too. I find that the colored wheels don't really affect my skating, but they are very apparent in clips I film. It makes me more stoked on my clips but that's just me I guess.
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Post by: rawbertson. on August 14, 2023, 10:55:13 AM

Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!

Have you seen that Venture parody shirt that says "ASLEEP" ?  ;D i laughed when i saw that

Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.
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Post by: SupremePizza on August 14, 2023, 11:20:32 AM
I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

Always down for colored wheels. When I was a kid I'd only buy colored wheels, brand didn't matter. Currently on a set of pink Spitfire classics and will try dying my next set of wheels if Spitfire doesn't come out with a colored radial
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 14, 2023, 04:50:19 PM
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I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?
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I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.
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Yeah they can be a bit moody. Like a teenager who hates their parents and loves fa/hockey. Also I’m like over thirty so I might feel a little silly indulging with youth trends. How insecure ahaha.. To be fair I’m a little bit moody so why not tho..

But at the same time car wheels are black why aren’t they white? I don’t even know how this counts in? I mean ride a hot rod type of setup so I suppose..


I've been skating pink wheels for well over a year now, and I've been really enjoying them. I actually want to try to get some black wheels after these too. I find that the colored wheels don't really affect my skating, but they are very apparent in clips I film. It makes me more stoked on my clips but that's just me I guess.


If it comes down to how much OCD you might get with things that match or don't match, it could go a bit weird, otherwise having a bit of colour / flair in the wheel department is a good way to make things a little more interesting.

Sure I tend to get a bit more here and there, removing all graphics from wheels, deck or whatever, but other times having a board or two with coloured wheels can be more fun than not.  I have the teal wheels on a board right now, but I also had black wheels too, as well as two black and two orange from back in the day that I still have.  They were fun!

Thankfully having the same urethane compounds now with different dyes doesn't affect the product like it used to once upon a time, but I do think there are more coloured wheels coming out soon too, including more black wheels, so someone might be in luck.




Sweet, I was thinking it would mess with the lock in qualities. I know what you mean, doesn't Jake Hayes ride three white with colored up front? My brain can't even comprehend it.


As to the one coloured wheel thing, I know some brands did sell the one, Spitfire Lance Mountain, Grosso and others, with quite a few people playing mix and match as well, getting one set of coloured wheels and adding them in to three sets of plain wheels to give it a little more flair.

Again personal opinion and making it just that little bit more fun, or maybe running the one coloured wheel in a certain position on the board, eg always back heel or front heel or something, but I don't think those guys really cared about having to rotate wheels due to wear - they put them on and when they had enough, just swap them out, but for any other normal person, not a pro with a carton of spare wheels, it could get a bit more tricky.

Still wouldn't hurt to always do something a little different and have a bit of fun with it.

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Post by: moonordie on August 14, 2023, 11:22:50 PM
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Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!
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Have you seen that Venture parody shirt that says "ASLEEP" ?  ;D i laughed when i saw that

Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.
When I'm doing it is when my back truck is showing some axle but sure makes more sense to rotate them in between decks, never thought about it 😅
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Post by: JugeL on August 14, 2023, 11:46:43 PM
Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.
Most of my grinds are slappys, but yea i don't care which truck is front and which one is back. Only thing that's different about them is that i don't really have switch front crooks groove but i'm working on it.
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Post by: manysnakes on August 16, 2023, 08:53:56 AM
My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
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Post by: moonordie on August 16, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
(https://i.imgur.com/IR6Ywl9.jpg)
I had this one and I really enjoyed even if it was a dipped one
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Post by: manysnakes on August 16, 2023, 11:24:04 AM
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My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
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(https://i.imgur.com/IR6Ywl9.jpg)
I had this one and I really enjoyed even if it was a dipped one

Thanks. The price is right, maybe I'll take the plunge. My sense is to wait until Labor Day weekend and see if Primitive does another super sale.
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Post by: moonordie on August 17, 2023, 04:04:58 AM
Anybody knows the deal with those Lakai with a thunder looking like Flare?
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Post by: rawbertson. on August 17, 2023, 06:40:04 AM
My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.

my friend that works there said that the only boards that are not done by BBS are the collab boards because sometimes the other party will have the final say over where the board is manufactured (from what i understand the other company decides the margin is not good enough on the BBS boards and thats why they end up going to some other cheaper shop for those because most of thme dont end up getting skated anyway)
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Post by: Yossi on August 17, 2023, 12:51:59 PM
So the decks that come with wheel wells (ie Polar) are useless if you skate Indys, right? My wheel bite marks are much lower on my board than the Polar wheel wells appear to be from looking at pics online.
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Post by: Basingstoke on August 17, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
I rode a Polar 8" with Independent Titanium 139 and 52mm SF Classic Fulls, the wheel wheels worked for me.
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Post by: FS_Overcrook on August 17, 2023, 02:03:10 PM
Anybody knows the deal with those Lakai with a thunder looking like Flare?

They are reflective flare logos. When light hits them they light up. Probably why they made them a lightning Flare.
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Post by: backside_frontside on August 17, 2023, 02:11:22 PM
All wheels will cone eventually if you skate them long enough or hard enough. 100% of wheels I've owned and skated have coned in some amount. Including F4 (skated 3-4 sets over the last few years)

This is my experience too. I’ve skated classics, conical fulls, and radials. F4 definitely cone the least, but any wheel will start to cone at some point, so you flip them to graphics out to even em back out. By that point the graphics are pretty much gone and they kinda look cool with the little ring of remaining graphic.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on August 17, 2023, 03:49:41 PM
Wheels naturally cone since the outer portion is going to have more pressure on it during turns and slides and will wear away faster.
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Post by: KidCarl on August 17, 2023, 06:46:30 PM
My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
I just retired my black/white dirty p, I'm pretty sure mine was made in china,  but I'm not going to peel the grip to see. However I had no complaints, I only switched out because of the razor tail
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Post by: rocklobster on August 17, 2023, 06:58:02 PM
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My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
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I just retired my black/white dirty p, I'm pretty sure mine was made in china,  but I'm not going to peel the grip to see. However I had no complaints, I only switched out because of the razor tail

Primitive used to list their discount bloards on TheDrop, which you could get with their 20% off with their 1st time purchase code. But it looks like TheDrop is dead now.
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Post by: manysnakes on August 17, 2023, 07:23:15 PM
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My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
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my friend that works there said that the only boards that are not done by BBS are the collab boards because sometimes the other party will have the final say over where the board is manufactured (from what i understand the other company decides the margin is not good enough on the BBS boards and thats why they end up going to some other cheaper shop for those because most of thme dont end up getting skated anyway)

That’s weird because every Primitive deck I’ve skated has been from China. 
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Post by: manysnakes on August 17, 2023, 07:24:55 PM
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My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.
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I just retired my black/white dirty p, I'm pretty sure mine was made in china,  but I'm not going to peel the grip to see. However I had no complaints, I only switched out because of the razor tail

Yeah I think the Chinese boards are great. I’ve been only skating pro models - all from China. The 8-8.125” is my favorite shape I’ve skated in years.
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Post by: 6ix9ine on August 17, 2023, 09:29:02 PM
I don't have any acetone to clean my bearings, can i use vodka?
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Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on August 17, 2023, 11:09:53 PM
I don't have any acetone to clean my bearings, can i use vodka?

Go for it

Don't report back
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Post by: moonordie on August 17, 2023, 11:22:05 PM
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Anybody knows the deal with those Lakai with a thunder looking like Flare?
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They are reflective flare logos. When light hits them they light up. Probably why they made them a lightning Flare.
Sounds fun and logic, thx for the answer
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Post by: DarkPools on August 18, 2023, 02:13:41 AM
I don't have any acetone to clean my bearings, can i use vodka?

If you don't drink the vodka from the bearing seat ring after cleaning then you're a puss
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Post by: backside_frontside on August 18, 2023, 06:02:48 AM
I don't have any acetone to clean my bearings, can i use vodka?

Unless it’s everclear vodka is still mostly water so it won’t really dissolve the lube. Buy some 60-70% rubbing alcohol from the drugstore
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Post by: tzhangdox on August 19, 2023, 06:10:53 PM
is it a pain in the ass to polish raw trucks? (kader ventures)

If not, whats the best way to do it
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 19, 2023, 06:32:19 PM
is it a pain in the ass to polish raw trucks? (kader ventures)

If not, whats the best way to do it


If you have the right gear, it is not too hard at all, but if you are doing it with minimal tools or DIY type situation it could be more trouble than it is worth.


I do recall someone using grip tape offcuts, then steel wool in both coarse and fine grades and they came up looking pretty amazing, but that was a while ago on a set of older trucks, so I don't quite know how well something like the new Kader trucks would come up.

That method also works for bringing up old trucks you want to look like new, which I have done quite a few times on a variety of trucks, not so much to get them to a clean polished look but they sure are shiny enough, when compared to what they were before.


People who have a cut and polish type setup for cars or similar could do it easily enough - that brush disc that goes on the end of a drill and the right ingredients make it happen with way less effort / elbow grease.


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Post by: Plan9Customs on August 19, 2023, 11:05:50 PM
is it a pain in the ass to polish raw trucks? (kader ventures)

If not, whats the best way to do it

If you want them to come out smooth and shine like chrome. Yes. HUGE pita.
If you want shiny pitted, not too bad but still involves lots of wet sanding and compounding.
You have access to a bench buffer? If you’re trying with just a drill it’s gonna take a quite a bit of time.
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Post by: tzhangdox on August 20, 2023, 09:54:12 AM
sounds like im gonna be running the raws lol thanks guys
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Post by: Blind Fisherman on August 20, 2023, 10:12:09 AM
Anyone else have issues with ordering directly from Sci-Fi Fantasy? I ordered the Glick 8.38 board on their website on August 11. Haven’t received any tracking or shipping info. I’ve emailed them twice and sent a DM after waiting a week as well. I want to support them, but this is just ridiculous.
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Post by: MC3 on August 20, 2023, 11:56:33 AM
anyone skated non-sb dunks?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on August 20, 2023, 12:29:28 PM
Anyone else have issues with ordering directly from Sci-Fi Fantasy? I ordered the Glick 8.38 board on their website on August 11. Haven’t received any tracking or shipping info. I’ve emailed them twice and sent a DM after waiting a week as well. I want to support them, but this is just ridiculous.

Nope, every time my items have shipped same day and been here within a few days.
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Post by: Nth syd bear on August 21, 2023, 01:16:04 AM
anyone skated non-sb dunks?

I've seen a bunch of people speak of skating non sb dunks on here
Apparently not good insoles or comfortable,
 ill let someone with experience possibly answer your question or try search button

Speaking of search function couldn't find much info on Fastbreak insoles
Are they decent?   

Those of you have skate Fastbreaks are the stock  ???insole  a keeper or you swapping em out ?
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 21, 2023, 06:19:24 AM
Are squeaky trucks simply inevitable? I recently tried the trick I’ve heard of shaving a bit of wax into your pivot cup/waxing the section of your truck that goes into the pivot cup, and it worked really well for about a day. Even waxed the kingpin a lil bit in case it was the bushings. Am I missing a step or is this just always a thing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Blind Fisherman on August 21, 2023, 06:48:06 AM
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Anyone else have issues with ordering directly from Sci-Fi Fantasy? I ordered the Glick 8.38 board on their website on August 11. Haven’t received any tracking or shipping info. I’ve emailed them twice and sent a DM after waiting a week as well. I want to support them, but this is just ridiculous.
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Nope, every time my items have shipped same day and been here within a few days.
That bums me out even more. As I said, I’ve reached out at least 4 times at this point and have been essentially ghosted by them. I’d happily buy the board from a skate shop instead of direct so he doesn’t have to deal with it, but I can’t even get a response.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 21, 2023, 07:22:54 AM
Are squeaky trucks simply inevitable? I recently tried the trick I’ve heard of shaving a bit of wax into your pivot cup/waxing the section of your truck that goes into the pivot cup, and it worked really well for about a day. Even waxed the kingpin a lil bit in case it was the bushings. Am I missing a step or is this just always a thing?

I noticed the set of Ace trucks i got had a huge clump of goo on them and they are not squeaky at all

Pretty sure someone told me it is just silicone grease. reading the use is o-ring applications, that seems like it would be a good fit with rubber pivot cup + steel hangar.

(https://images.globalindustrial.ca/images/pd/B3058841.jpg?t=1691326048000)
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Post by: LebowskisRug on August 21, 2023, 10:07:37 AM
Are squeaky trucks simply inevitable? I recently tried the trick I’ve heard of shaving a bit of wax into your pivot cup/waxing the section of your truck that goes into the pivot cup, and it worked really well for about a day. Even waxed the kingpin a lil bit in case it was the bushings. Am I missing a step or is this just always a thing?

A tiny amount of lithium grease has always worked really well for me. Some people use motor oil but that kinda splooges out. I tried graphite and that was shitty and messy as hell.

I find that in colder temps I get more squeaks and creaks especially with Thunders for some reason. I put the lithium on the bushings and pivot cups right when I get the trucks and then periodically usually when cleaning my bearings every 4-6mo.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Blind Fisherman on August 21, 2023, 11:03:01 AM
Finally heard back from Sci-Fi and got everything fixed. Board is on the way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gandito405 on August 22, 2023, 01:23:01 PM
does anyone know how to rotate spitfire lock ins?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2023, 03:22:41 PM
does anyone know how to rotate spitfire lock ins?


You can still turn them the other way, as I have done this and it worked in the past, but as they are the two different edge wheels, some people are a little hesitant to do that, or I would turn them all inside, or it would mess with my head.

The outside edge is a Conical Full shape and the inside is more of a Tablet, only now the newer ones (which I haven't seen) seem to have a more rounded edge on them than the older ones.

People have skated them either way in the past and not had issues, so if you start to have unhappy moments with the asymmetry, or the front toe wearing down a lot more, just check which ever wheel has the least wear and swap that over for the one with the most wear, then swap over the other two to even it up.


This was the full "How to rotate wheels" info I posted as well:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg4066367#msg4066367


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on August 23, 2023, 09:11:56 AM
what the fuck does vans decon mean? deconstructed?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on August 23, 2023, 09:18:41 AM
what the fuck does vans decon mean? deconstructed?
Yup, I think that's exactly what that means. Seems to be slimmed down versions of popular models. I know that the Crockett High Decon has no padding in the collar and tongue, and a one piece toe cap instead of the standard double stitched toe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on August 23, 2023, 11:21:46 AM
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what the fuck does vans decon mean? deconstructed?
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Yup, I think that's exactly what that means. Seems to be slimmed down versions of popular models. I know that the Crockett High Decon has no padding in the collar and tongue, and a one piece toe cap instead of the standard double stitched toe.

ooo word thank you
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on August 25, 2023, 02:14:24 AM
Anyone tried one of those nhs vx everslick decks?
I expect them to be quite heavy and strange feeling
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 25, 2023, 04:53:15 AM
Anyone tried one of those nhs vx everslick decks?
I expect them to be quite heavy and strange feeling


I hadn't heard of a VX with everslick so had to look it up.  Interesting to see, so without ever seeing one, let alone riding one, I have this to add, same comments from Tom Asta on his video about it, which I just watched (and linked below) so sure he gets them for free, but he gives a pretty good review on them, initially at about 3:00 and then at 13:30 or so.

I have seen and skated a VX board which is thinner and lighter.  Also seen and skated a normal board with everslick bottom, which is thicker and heavier.  To have everslick on a VX board, it combines the lighter board with the slide of the slick layer to make what some people might call the best of both.


Not one to believe everything I see and read, or ever really think I want one, so take the rest of this how you will, but at least there is more info here from both the video and from the NHS site, marketing blurb and all, etc.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Cf8rVkj2U


https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/8-0in-x-31-6in-japanese-morph-dot-vx-everslick-santa-cruz-skateboard-deck

VX Everslick combines 2 proven technology constructions into one with the strength and pop of VX and the fastest sliding slick material on the market - Everslick.

VX Everslick features 5 plies of North American Maple and 2 layers of Quad X technology with a layer of Everslick material on the bottom. Thinner, stronger, and more pop than standard 7 ply decks with proprietary slick material that slides on almost any surface and features a unique graphic application that yields bright colors and high contrast graphics that look great longer.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on August 25, 2023, 06:18:36 AM
Are slightly bent trucks super bad for bearings or does it not matter? Thinking about trying out bones swiss for the first time, but my trucks are bent and I'm gonna keep riding them for some time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 25, 2023, 07:24:06 AM
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Anyone tried one of those nhs vx everslick decks?
I expect them to be quite heavy and strange feeling
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I hadn't heard of a VX with everslick so had to look it up.  Interesting to see, so without ever seeing one, let alone riding one, I have this to add, same comments from Tom Asta on his video about it, which I just watched (and linked below) so sure he gets them for free, but he gives a pretty good review on them, initially at about 3:00 and then at 13:30 or so.

I have seen and skated a VX board which is thinner and lighter.  Also seen and skated a normal board with everslick bottom, which is thicker and heavier.  To have everslick on a VX board, it combines the lighter board with the slide of the slick layer to make what some people might call the best of both.


Not one to believe everything I see and read, or ever really think I want one, so take the rest of this how you will, but at least there is more info here from both the video and from the NHS site, marketing blurb and all, etc.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Cf8rVkj2U


https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/8-0in-x-31-6in-japanese-morph-dot-vx-everslick-santa-cruz-skateboard-deck

VX Everslick combines 2 proven technology constructions into one with the strength and pop of VX and the fastest sliding slick material on the market - Everslick.

VX Everslick features 5 plies of North American Maple and 2 layers of Quad X technology with a layer of Everslick material on the bottom. Thinner, stronger, and more pop than standard 7 ply decks with proprietary slick material that slides on almost any surface and features a unique graphic application that yields bright colors and high contrast graphics that look great longer.

do you think those boards would be allowed to be manufactured in north america? or perhaps a better question is would it be heavily taxed because of all the chemicals they need to use to make those? Similar to why we don't see vulcanized shoes being made here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kaezan on August 25, 2023, 08:06:21 AM
Had a question about Indy stock bushings.

Anyone know if the different color stock bushings are all the same durometer?

The orange one I know is like 90A, but for example, on the trucks below, they have different colors. Usually the black one is the really hard bushing and the white one is very soft (when bought as replacement bushings). Just trying to figure out if I need to buy a seperate set or if they would be same durometer as the orange ones.

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-btg-summit-silver-black-standard-skateboard-trucks-independent?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20BTG%20Summit%20Silver%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-slayer-black-standard-independent-skateboard-trucks?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20Slayer%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

Also, anyone ever ride a full black truck before like the Indy above? Do they grind any different due to the paint? Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: yourbreakfsat on August 25, 2023, 09:31:49 AM
Had a question about Indy stock bushings.

Anyone know if the different color stock bushings are all the same durometer?

The orange one I know is like 90A, but for example, on the trucks below, they have different colors. Usually the black one is the really hard bushing and the white one is very soft (when bought as replacement bushings). Just trying to figure out if I need to buy a seperate set or if they would be same durometer as the orange ones.

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-btg-summit-silver-black-standard-skateboard-trucks-independent?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20BTG%20Summit%20Silver%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-slayer-black-standard-independent-skateboard-trucks?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20Slayer%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

Also, anyone ever ride a full black truck before like the Indy above? Do they grind any different due to the paint? Thanks!

Bushings that come with the trucks will be 90a regardless of color.

I haven't found paint to affect grind at all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 25, 2023, 11:32:47 AM
Color of bushings is 100% linked to durometer for Independent. Always. Stock or aftermarket bushings. 100% of my personal purchases have confirmed this and I've only skated Indys for the last 13 years.

Orange 90A is the standard default bushing for most of Indy's models, but they occasionally throw red (88A), white (78A), or black (94A) depending on the pro/theme of the truck.

Both of your linked trucks will not be 90A stock if they come in those colors, as far as I'm aware.

I've gotten white bushings stock on AVE trucks years ago and they were noticeably softer because they were truly 78A and not 90A.

If you want 90A durometer, buy a set of bushings on the side to be sure. Avoid the red ones, they try to be softer but end up being less forgiving, ironically. I like the conical aftermarket personally.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 25, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
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Had a question about Indy stock bushings.

Anyone know if the different color stock bushings are all the same durometer?

The orange one I know is like 90A, but for example, on the trucks below, they have different colors. Usually the black one is the really hard bushing and the white one is very soft (when bought as replacement bushings). Just trying to figure out if I need to buy a seperate set or if they would be same durometer as the orange ones.

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-btg-summit-silver-black-standard-skateboard-trucks-independent?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20BTG%20Summit%20Silver%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-slayer-black-standard-independent-skateboard-trucks?utm_source=independenttrucks.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=product-shop&utm_content=Stage%2011%20Forged%20Hollow%20Slayer%20Black%20%20Skateboard%20Trucks

Also, anyone ever ride a full black truck before like the Indy above? Do they grind any different due to the paint? Thanks!
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Bushings that come with the trucks will be 90a regardless of color.

I haven't found paint to affect grind at all.


As per what Indy say about their stock bushings, +1 for stock bushings regardless of colour are all 90 duro, but that is not to say that all bushings feel or perform the same, as some have felt a bit stiffer, some felt a bit more squishy, even though they still came up as the same duro with the gauge.

Had a lot of Indy trucks come through my hands, often the pro colourways or different colab versions with orange, white, black, burgundy red and other coloured bushings and skated most of them / feel them out on people's boards and they are very different to the after market bushings that you can buy, even the orange stock are different to the orange after market bushings, as others have said on here in the past too.

Also have all the after market bushings too and have them in boards for people to try, or to put on their own boards, and none of them feel the same as the stock bushings, which is interesting, to say the least.

In the past some people have often swapped out the stock bushings for others right away, as the stock bushings used to be pretty weird, but now they are pretty decent if you like medium to loose feeling trucks right from go.  Stock bushings even from a few years ago felt way more firm than the current stock bushings now, so I think they have upgraded the bushing formula at some point, maybe when they went to 100% China production or something.


Different paint and other things don't matter to the feel of the truck, as the paint comes right off as soon as the truck comes in contact with anything that you grind or slide on, but it is more personal preference than anything.  I know some people that will not touch a painted truck, not even painted baseplate, for whatever reason, so either factory paint or DIY paint jobs still skated the same to me.


*  Sorry that was probably rambling a lot, but Indy are the main trucks I skate and have way too many boards with many different options, new and used, older and current stock.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FunnyBunny on August 25, 2023, 08:18:29 PM
Anyone know anything about Opus shoes?  Just curious, can’t find much in terms of posts here, insta or even their website.  Anyone skated them?  Or know about a team?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 26, 2023, 01:26:04 AM
Anyone know anything about Opus shoes?  Just curious, can’t find much in terms of posts here, insta or even their website.  Anyone skated them?  Or know about a team?

They're brand new, so there's not much floating around. They're already in a number of shops and seem to be decently made.

David Tofighi on Insta posts a good chunk about the Opis shoes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 26, 2023, 07:52:57 AM
Color of bushings is 100% linked to durometer for Independent. Always. Stock or aftermarket bushings. 100% of my personal purchases have confirmed this and I've only skated Indys for the last 13 years.

Orange 90A is the standard default bushing for most of Indy's models, but they occasionally throw red (88A), white (78A), or black (94A) depending on the pro/theme of the truck.

Both of your linked trucks will not be 90A stock if they come in those colors, as far as I'm aware.

I've gotten white bushings stock on AVE trucks years ago and they were noticeably softer because they were truly 78A and not 90A.

If you want 90A durometer, buy a set of bushings on the side to be sure. Avoid the red ones, they try to be softer but end up being less forgiving, ironically. I like the conical aftermarket personally.

All stock Indy bushings are 90A regardless of color. They’re definitely a looser, bouncier 90A now since the move to China, but the aftermarket blacks and whites don’t feel the same as the stock bushings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 26, 2023, 08:03:39 AM
Color of bushings is 100% linked to durometer for Independent. Always. Stock or aftermarket bushings. 100% of my personal purchases have confirmed this and I've only skated Indys for the last 13 years.

Orange 90A is the standard default bushing for most of Indy's models, but they occasionally throw red (88A), white (78A), or black (94A) depending on the pro/theme of the truck.

Both of your linked trucks will not be 90A stock if they come in those colors, as far as I'm aware.

I've gotten white bushings stock on AVE trucks years ago and they were noticeably softer because they were truly 78A and not 90A.

If you want 90A durometer, buy a set of bushings on the side to be sure. Avoid the red ones, they try to be softer but end up being less forgiving, ironically. I like the conical aftermarket personally.

it's a better world when people share actual knowledge
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 26, 2023, 08:04:50 AM
But only when it’s correct.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 26, 2023, 08:07:12 AM
But only when it’s correct.

that's what i meant ;)
makes no sense to put 78A as stock bushings on brand new trucks

AVE trucks "kids edition" maybe  8)

Sidenote: Stage 4 Stock bushings are 90A but they are red
Weird thing about Stage 4 aftermarket bushings
90A/red called soft
92A/blue called medium
94A/black called hard
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on August 27, 2023, 04:52:22 AM
It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: o4hc on August 27, 2023, 03:20:17 PM
Hi! Can anyone identify these trucks? Thanks!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 27, 2023, 09:11:43 PM
Hi! Can anyone identify these trucks? Thanks!


I feel like that shape is closer to Tensor than anything else, but if it is your board, I would be taking a few more pics of different angles, maybe even taking the truck apart and checking the bottom of the baseplate too.

Almost all branded trucks usually have the name or at least something on the baseplate (be it top side or underneath), but they could very well be something else, eg basic unbranded truck from a complete or something.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 27, 2023, 09:20:43 PM
It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!



This might be the best bet, either of these two guys, who are still active on the forums here:


@Gray Imp Sausage Metal

@Sativa Lung


I actually had those 63mm physics wheels believe it or not, they were pretty ridiculous though (although physics was a great company). I’m thinking Jerry Fisher/ Half Cab era Fred Gall; not quite on Matt’s level but somewhere in between. Probably 56mm fat wheels on a 8.25 board, nothing huge by today’s standards but they just looked so raw at the time 8)

Who in Okinawa are we taking about?


A few months ago I gave away a set of 58 or 60mm Physics and I've been regretting it ever since. I do have some vintage danny way plan b's that are probably 58ish? set up on a Kanfoush yinzer shape 8.55 deck (the black lance mountain graphic one) with Indy steve olson 149s. Super fun setup, those big old hard wheels just feel so at home on East Coast terrain when you're smashing down the street crushing rock salt and rodent bones and making a horrible racket. Fuck I might have to pull that thing out tomorrow.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 27, 2023, 11:13:25 PM
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Hi! Can anyone identify these trucks? Thanks!
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I feel like that shape is closer to Tensor than anything else, but if it is your board, I would be taking a few more pics of different angles, maybe even taking the truck apart and checking the bottom of the baseplate too.

Almost all branded trucks usually have the name or at least something on the baseplate (be it top side or underneath), but they could very well be something else, eg basic unbranded truck from a complete or something.
They could be GK
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on August 28, 2023, 03:34:15 AM
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It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
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This might be the best bet, either of these two guys, who are still active on the forums here:


@Gray Imp Sausage Metal

@Sativa Lung


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I actually had those 63mm physics wheels believe it or not, they were pretty ridiculous though (although physics was a great company). I’m thinking Jerry Fisher/ Half Cab era Fred Gall; not quite on Matt’s level but somewhere in between. Probably 56mm fat wheels on a 8.25 board, nothing huge by today’s standards but they just looked so raw at the time 8)

Who in Okinawa are we taking about?
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A few months ago I gave away a set of 58 or 60mm Physics and I've been regretting it ever since. I do have some vintage danny way plan b's that are probably 58ish? set up on a Kanfoush yinzer shape 8.55 deck (the black lance mountain graphic one) with Indy steve olson 149s. Super fun setup, those big old hard wheels just feel so at home on East Coast terrain when you're smashing down the street crushing rock salt and rodent bones and making a horrible racket. Fuck I might have to pull that thing out tomorrow.
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Thank you for the reply Mbrimson88 and all the best!  :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 28, 2023, 06:17:20 AM
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It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
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This might be the best bet, either of these two guys, who are still active on the forums here:


@Gray Imp Sausage Metal

@Sativa Lung


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I actually had those 63mm physics wheels believe it or not, they were pretty ridiculous though (although physics was a great company). I’m thinking Jerry Fisher/ Half Cab era Fred Gall; not quite on Matt’s level but somewhere in between. Probably 56mm fat wheels on a 8.25 board, nothing huge by today’s standards but they just looked so raw at the time 8)

Who in Okinawa are we taking about?
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A few months ago I gave away a set of 58 or 60mm Physics and I've been regretting it ever since. I do have some vintage danny way plan b's that are probably 58ish? set up on a Kanfoush yinzer shape 8.55 deck (the black lance mountain graphic one) with Indy steve olson 149s. Super fun setup, those big old hard wheels just feel so at home on East Coast terrain when you're smashing down the street crushing rock salt and rodent bones and making a horrible racket. Fuck I might have to pull that thing out tomorrow.
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Thank you for the reply Mbrimson88 and all the best!  :)
I don’t recall the durometer of them but companies were hardly trying to be diverse with their options back then so I’m assuming around 99a maybe even 98a? It was hard to tell because I was already coming off regular 54mm wheels so everything just felt so different on them anyway. I also wasn’t a power slide guy back then but I vaguely remember them farting a lot more than whatever else I was riding. When loophole first dropped they reminded me a lot of physics. Didn’t Sergie say in interview that before physics they ride old dead stock Powell wheels because that was the only way they could find something bigger than 54mm?

Edit: On second thought, if you check the RIP matt reason thread, @GardenSkater77 is claiming 97a for his wheels because apparently “he never made a sound when skating”? Maybe he saw him
Skating when he was still on the NOS Powells?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fakie nollie on August 28, 2023, 06:25:06 AM
Is there a containment thread for 8.5’s with 14” wheel base?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 28, 2023, 07:43:37 AM
Is there a containment thread for 8.5’s with 14” wheel base?

yes its called WBSWB Movement (Wide board Short Wheelbase)
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115328.0

Not sure if what I am riding now is considered in that range but its 8.38" x 14.25" PS Stix and it feels pretty ideal to me. 8.5" or even 8.25" would be fine I probably wouldn't even notice the difference.

Primitive 8.38's are 14.125" and I really like that size as well, I have a couple in the wrapper still and just finished skating one.

I had Anti Hero 8.5" x 14" and I thought it was going to be the greatest board ever and I ended up liking these other 2 a lot more ^
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BrknBrds on August 28, 2023, 08:05:42 AM
anyone have info on gx1000 boards ? Concave and shape ? Best trucks to pair with them ? I’ve read a few comments on slap that venture lo works best but I’m curious about the concave a lot ……thanks again Slap
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on August 28, 2023, 09:48:08 AM
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It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
[close]



This might be the best bet, either of these two guys, who are still active on the forums here:


@Gray Imp Sausage Metal

@Sativa Lung


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I actually had those 63mm physics wheels believe it or not, they were pretty ridiculous though (although physics was a great company). I’m thinking Jerry Fisher/ Half Cab era Fred Gall; not quite on Matt’s level but somewhere in between. Probably 56mm fat wheels on a 8.25 board, nothing huge by today’s standards but they just looked so raw at the time 8)

Who in Okinawa are we taking about?
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A few months ago I gave away a set of 58 or 60mm Physics and I've been regretting it ever since. I do have some vintage danny way plan b's that are probably 58ish? set up on a Kanfoush yinzer shape 8.55 deck (the black lance mountain graphic one) with Indy steve olson 149s. Super fun setup, those big old hard wheels just feel so at home on East Coast terrain when you're smashing down the street crushing rock salt and rodent bones and making a horrible racket. Fuck I might have to pull that thing out tomorrow.
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Thank you for the reply Mbrimson88 and all the best!  :)
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I don’t recall the durometer of them but companies were hardly trying to be diverse with their options back then so I’m assuming around 99a maybe even 98a? It was hard to tell because I was already coming off regular 54mm wheels so everything just felt so different on them anyway. I also wasn’t a power slide guy back then but I vaguely remember them farting a lot more than whatever else I was riding. When loophole first dropped they reminded me a lot of physics. Didn’t Sergie say in interview that before physics they ride old dead stock Powell wheels because that was the only way they could find something bigger than 54mm?

Edit: On second thought, if you check the RIP matt reason thread, @GardenSkater77 is claiming 97a for his wheels because apparently “he never made a sound when skating”? Maybe he saw him
Skating when he was still on the NOS Powells?

Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cthulhu! on August 28, 2023, 10:08:13 AM
Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 28, 2023, 10:52:46 AM
anyone have info on gx1000 boards ? Concave and shape ? Best trucks to pair with them ? I’ve read a few comments on slap that venture lo works best but I’m curious about the concave a lot ……thanks again Slap

They seem to have both square and popsicle shapes. I don't care for square kicks so I have only stood on the popsicles.

The kicks are fucking lonnnnnng. The nose on the 8.38 is like 7.18 and the tail is a bit under 7. A normal BBS in that size is 6.875 nose and 6.625 tail. So, the boards are also quite long definitely a full 32.25. They end up pointier than you think almost like a Baker. As for trucks I dunno why people would want Venture Lo on boards that large but since the vast majority of the team ride Venture High with massive wheels I would wager that could be a good combo to offset the long kicks (the larger wheels and extended WB of Venture High would make the tail hit at the same time as a normal tail/smaller wheels).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: o4hc on August 28, 2023, 11:21:50 AM
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Hi! Can anyone identify these trucks? Thanks!
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I feel like that shape is closer to Tensor than anything else, but if it is your board, I would be taking a few more pics of different angles, maybe even taking the truck apart and checking the bottom of the baseplate too.

Almost all branded trucks usually have the name or at least something on the baseplate (be it top side or underneath), but they could very well be something else, eg basic unbranded truck from a complete or something.

Thanks! They're from a board for sale — I assumed from a complete but wanted to check.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 28, 2023, 03:04:56 PM
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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)



boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hit up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 28, 2023, 03:58:40 PM
I have weird feet. Most shoes have a lot of pressure on top of my left big toe. Right where that bone of the toe is. Any ideas how I can fast forward the breaking in process or where I can buy new feet? Thanks in advance pals.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 28, 2023, 04:16:52 PM
I have weird feet. Most shoes have a lot of pressure on top of my left big toe. Right where that bone of the toe is. Any ideas how I can fast forward the breaking in process or where I can buy new feet? Thanks in advance pals.


I bought some shoe stretchers, also called shoe tree or other thing, but what I did was then tape some folded up cardboard to the high pressure areas that would stretch a shoe out a bit more in the places I needed it.

They also came with extra plastic bumps to put in different areas on the things, but that just wasn't enough.

For me, this worked really well and I could put them in new shoes for a week or longer and then they would feel way more comfortable when I did wear them.

Some others would do a shoe microwave trick, or soak them in something and then put in the shoe stretchers or even just jam a bit of wood or something down into the toe to stretch it out more, so there are a few options.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl6s1ziBVVd/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 28, 2023, 06:36:34 PM
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But only when it’s correct.
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that's what i meant ;)
makes no sense to put 78A as stock bushings on brand new trucks

AVE trucks "kids edition" maybe  8)

Sidenote: Stage 4 Stock bushings are 90A but they are red
Weird thing about Stage 4 aftermarket bushings
90A/red called soft
92A/blue called medium
94A/black called hard

As far as my information goes, it's accurate. I could be wrong, though. The color matching durometer is straight from Indy, so i'm not making that part up.

The white bushings were in 149 standard AVEs and they were soft as shit, so they actually were 78A when I compared to my 90A oranges. It makes sense to put different durometer bushings on some trucks if it's a pro truck and that's the theme they go with. Practically speaking, 90A durometer being the best middle ground makes the most sense, however.

I've mostly only been skating Indy and have noticed the white and red stock bushings being physically different  (e.g. different durometer) in feel from the orange stock. It's anecdotal, but I'm inclined to disagree with the claim that Indy's stock bushings are all 90A regardless of stock color. Im not referring to Stage 4, btw. That is, until someone from Indy can verify MBrimson's claim about that being the case.

Especially when I firsthand observed my own new Indy trucks with different color stock bushings actually being looser and having a different response time (due to not being 90A) to the standard orange ones. Before and after the China move. Perhaps the China move made all of them 90A in different colors but I don't believe that was the case before the move.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 28, 2023, 06:54:14 PM
I was wondering if anyone thinks that the old Powell product posters are worth anything? I got one in a foot locker. I don't really wanna dig it out if it needs to sit longer to collect value. I was very surprised it wasn't destroyed. Testament to those old wooden army footlockers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 28, 2023, 07:00:47 PM
Hi! Can anyone identify these trucks? Thanks!

Looks like a gullwing from the late 90s 00s. But it would say gullwing in the baseplate. Probably USA under the plates too.

It has like a raised semetrical "devils lock" seagull shape across the faceof the hanger?

Probably some 2020s china knocks. Those cats are making trucks from the 70s still. HA. Bet their nukes don't even work. Those nazis can't even build sewers right.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 28, 2023, 07:03:21 PM
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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Hell yeah
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 28, 2023, 07:06:50 PM
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But only when it’s correct.
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that's what i meant ;)
makes no sense to put 78A as stock bushings on brand new trucks

AVE trucks "kids edition" maybe  8)

Sidenote: Stage 4 Stock bushings are 90A but they are red
Weird thing about Stage 4 aftermarket bushings
90A/red called soft
92A/blue called medium
94A/black called hard
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As far as my information goes, it's accurate. I could be wrong, though. The color matching durometer is straight from Indy, so i'm not making that part up.

The white bushings were in 149 standard AVEs and they were soft as shit, so they actually were 78A when I compared to my 90A oranges. It makes sense to put different durometer bushings on some trucks if it's a pro truck and that's the theme they go with. Practically speaking, 90A durometer being the best middle ground makes the most sense, however.

I've mostly only been skating Indy and have noticed the white and red stock bushings being physically different  (e.g. different durometer) in feel from the orange stock. It's anecdotal, but I'm inclined to disagree with the claim that Indy's stock bushings are all 90A regardless of stock color. Im not referring to Stage 4, btw. That is, until someone from Indy can verify MBrimson's claim about that being the case.

Especially when I firsthand observed my own new Indy trucks with different color stock bushings actually being looser and having a different response time (due to not being 90A) to the standard orange ones. Before and after the China move. Perhaps the China move made all of them 90A in different colors but I don't believe that was the case before the move.


I never want to come across as that pushy shop guy, or try to bring my own opinions to the fore, so I welcome any and all conversation on any skate related topic.

Also happy to hear first hand experiences too, as some things just don't balance out from what a brand says, to what people actually feel from using the product.  The funny thing with almost all new trucks is they start out weird, as in bushings a super squishy before they firm up.  A few sets of those white stock bushings feel more firm now than the stock orange on the current trucks, but they have also had more time to cure - it is urethane, so after all they will harden up over time, but I will also get out some of the after market bushings with pics and duro test, take pics or whatever if needed too, more just for fun than anything else.

At least I still have some of the AVE trucks (new in bags), the matt finish metal look with AVE in gothic script with the white bushings, as well as others with the different colours, which I can take pics of and whatever too as needed, but for the most important question, I posted in one of the most recent Indy Instagram posts about the bushings and will wait if anyone comments or replies, from Indy or others...


https://www.instagram.com/p/CwfqAFpxB0O/

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 28, 2023, 07:12:47 PM
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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Some other wheels from around that time are 98 duro too, so that could very well be about it for the duro in question.

Other brands like Spitfire used to have quite a lot of 97 duro wheels, as well as 95 duro back then, way before Soft Ds or other similar wheels came out too, as they were a different formula to the older ones I have.

This was before things went a bit crazy up into the 101 and beyond, with all the different specialised formulas and whatever else was going on in wheel manufacturing at the time.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 28, 2023, 07:28:54 PM
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But only when it’s correct.
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that's what i meant ;)
makes no sense to put 78A as stock bushings on brand new trucks

AVE trucks "kids edition" maybe  8)

Sidenote: Stage 4 Stock bushings are 90A but they are red
Weird thing about Stage 4 aftermarket bushings
90A/red called soft
92A/blue called medium
94A/black called hard
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As far as my information goes, it's accurate. I could be wrong, though. The color matching durometer is straight from Indy, so i'm not making that part up.

The white bushings were in 149 standard AVEs and they were soft as shit, so they actually were 78A when I compared to my 90A oranges. It makes sense to put different durometer bushings on some trucks if it's a pro truck and that's the theme they go with. Practically speaking, 90A durometer being the best middle ground makes the most sense, however.

I've mostly only been skating Indy and have noticed the white and red stock bushings being physically different  (e.g. different durometer) in feel from the orange stock. It's anecdotal, but I'm inclined to disagree with the claim that Indy's stock bushings are all 90A regardless of stock color. Im not referring to Stage 4, btw. That is, until someone from Indy can verify MBrimson's claim about that being the case.

Especially when I firsthand observed my own new Indy trucks with different color stock bushings actually being looser and having a different response time (due to not being 90A) to the standard orange ones. Before and after the China move. Perhaps the China move made all of them 90A in different colors but I don't believe that was the case before the move.

(https://i.ibb.co/nPz5jZt/11-C833-B5-0720-4852-9789-F4981-AD94-E42.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPz5jZt)

This is posted on the page for the Reynolds Mid. They come with 90A black bushings.

(https://i.ibb.co/QbSLnNw/0-B206298-4130-4-DC9-B35-F-763-E05-C3-FD61.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QbSLnNw)

Louie Lopez Pro: 90A black.

(https://i.ibb.co/ftZrDH9/76664-C3-A-49-B3-4355-A578-A1-BEDEA2-C58-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ftZrDH9)

Toy Machine Collab: 90A red.

And I’m currently riding stock 90A whites from a pair of Tom Knox pros in my AF1 Lows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 28, 2023, 07:39:05 PM
Id kill for a 63mm 99a f4. Shape doesn't matter so long as it's not a lock in. It's would have to be carved on both sides or it might be too tank. og or conical would be the way.

There's gotta be vert guys who don't wanna ride Bones who can sell wheels to kids. Make the fuckin wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 29, 2023, 01:19:18 AM
Honestly, I find it so odd that Independent (and other brands too) color code their bushings for different durometers and then throw that out the window when it comes to the stock bushings. They don't really state anywhere that all bushings are 90A regardless of color unless you ask (like the photos a Pal posted above) or dig for it like we're doing here.

Thanks everyone for confirming and it seems I'm wrong about the stock ones, but right about the aftermarket ones.

I'm still tripping out because the stock red bushings I have previously used feel way different than the orange ones. Same thing with those AVE white ones. Maybe those were rare one-offs for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on August 29, 2023, 06:07:48 AM
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Color of bushings is 100% linked to durometer for Independent. Always. Stock or aftermarket bushings. 100% of my personal purchases have confirmed this and I've only skated Indys for the last 13 years.

Orange 90A is the standard default bushing for most of Indy's models, but they occasionally throw red (88A), white (78A), or black (94A) depending on the pro/theme of the truck.

Both of your linked trucks will not be 90A stock if they come in those colors, as far as I'm aware.

I've gotten white bushings stock on AVE trucks years ago and they were noticeably softer because they were truly 78A and not 90A.

If you want 90A durometer, buy a set of bushings on the side to be sure. Avoid the red ones, they try to be softer but end up being less forgiving, ironically. I like the conical aftermarket personally.
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All stock Indy bushings are 90A regardless of color. They’re definitely a looser, bouncier 90A now since the move to China, but the aftermarket blacks and whites don’t feel the same as the stock bushings.

This is what I believed too, because it would be insane for it to be otherwise, but I didn’t actually know for sure so I emailed NHS. Here is the final word on the matter.

(https://i.ibb.co/TKF8M17/IMG-6152.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TKF8M17)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on August 29, 2023, 06:30:07 AM
yeah i was gonna say I tried those Slayer Indy's on my friends board that have the red bushings and they were clearly exactly the same as the stock orange ones. I have the Blue "Medium" bushings (purchased aftermarket, but Indy brand) and you can tell the difference.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on August 29, 2023, 10:00:41 AM
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anyone have info on gx1000 boards ? Concave and shape ? Best trucks to pair with them ? I’ve read a few comments on slap that venture lo works best but I’m curious about the concave a lot ……thanks again Slap
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They seem to have both square and popsicle shapes. I don't care for square kicks so I have only stood on the popsicles.

The kicks are fucking lonnnnnng. The nose on the 8.38 is like 7.18 and the tail is a bit under 7. A normal BBS in that size is 6.875 nose and 6.625 tail. So, the boards are also quite long definitely a full 32.25. They end up pointier than you think almost like a Baker. As for trucks I dunno why people would want Venture Lo on boards that large but since the vast majority of the team ride Venture High with massive wheels I would wager that could be a good combo to offset the long kicks (the larger wheels and extended WB of Venture High would make the tail hit at the same time as a normal tail/smaller wheels).

I posted some pics in the Gx1000 thread if you wanna go a few pages back. Lebowski pretty much nailed it. Comparing it to my current FA it's definitely longer by about 0.5", bit more tapered, and not as steep. I still have life on my FA so can't compare how it skates yet but will be pairing it with ventures and 56mm spits
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on August 29, 2023, 11:54:57 AM
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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Some other wheels from around that time are 98 duro too, so that could very well be about it for the duro in question.

Other brands like Spitfire used to have quite a lot of 97 duro wheels, as well as 95 duro back then, way before Soft Ds or other similar wheels came out too, as they were a different formula to the older ones I have.

This was before things went a bit crazy up into the 101 and beyond, with all the different specialised formulas and whatever else was going on in wheel manufacturing at the time.

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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg)



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Hell yeah

Well done finding that Physics wheel advert, it's a brilliant find and so cool looking:) A big thank you everyone for your help answering my question and all the extra info and wheel history, it is really appreciated and interesting stuff which I've made notes of.

PS I don't happen to be on or using instagram yet but if/when I get round to joining it I will certainly reach out and ask more wheel history related questions for sure!

Cheers and all the best from me in the UK!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 29, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
Honestly, I find it so odd that Independent (and other brands too) color code their bushings for different durometers and then throw that out the window when it comes to the stock bushings. They don't really state anywhere that all bushings are 90A regardless of color unless you ask (like the photos a Pal posted above) or dig for it like we're doing here.

Thanks everyone for confirming and it seems I'm wrong about the stock ones, but right about the aftermarket ones.

I'm still tripping out because the stock red bushings I have previously used feel way different than the orange ones. Same thing with those AVE white ones. Maybe those were rare one-offs for me.


As I had said before, between lots of different trucks, I have felt like the stock bushings did feel different, some a little stiffer and some a little less stiff, even verging on stupidly soft at first, but after a few sessions or more, they all seemed to firm up a bit even though some still come out a touch more this or a touch more that.

So as far as the info they give you, I agree with you in that not all stock bushings feel the same, even if they are all supposed to be the same 90 duro on paper, but they are all a different compound to the aftter market bushings and perform differently, even in what is said to be the 90 duro bushings, for comparison.


The stock bushings do seem to split, come apart or have other issues, whereas the after market bushings don't seem to have anywhere near as many issues as the stock ones, for whatever reason.  I have still seen all of them end up squashed or split or whatever from being tightened down too much, or specific things that will cause them to blow out more often, but I think overall now, the Indy bushings really do hold up a lot better so regardless of anything else, I am happy to use them, as well as happy to recommend them to anyone, from super soft right through to super hard and anything in between.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on August 29, 2023, 05:29:26 PM
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 29, 2023, 05:37:07 PM
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.


The comparison from rounded edge to squarer edge is the main thing here.

To skate a rounder wheel like a classic, you will get on and off a lot more easily, so sometimes slipping out more often on this shape wheel, but it can also make it easier to grind for longer and stay where you need it to if you are used to them.

The squarer shaped edge wheel is meant to stick a bit more or stay more on the edge, whatever it is, so shapes like Lock Ins, Tablets and even the Conical or Conical Full to a degree will hold the board on a lot more than the rounder Classic shaped wheels on most edges where the wheel is running along the edge, not so much crossed or at an angle.


Anyone can still skate either and still lock in if balanced, or if not balanced any wheel will not lock in too, so sure it is down to the ability of the individual, but there are some wheels that might help a bit more with some things or hinder a bit more with others.

Wheel size also comes in to it a fair bit too, so bigger lock in / straight side wall type wheels will lock in a lot more than smaller ones, but that is not to say that riding a 60 mm squared off wheel will stop you from slipping out any less if you are not well balanced over the grind.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 29, 2023, 06:33:23 PM
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.

The simple idea is that on a rail a flat side would have more of a contact patch against the side. Take the letters L and O where O is the rail. The L can make contact against the side and let you sit slightly over the rail or ledge. Now take ) and O- it pushes the edge further from the rail center. The flatter L shape allows you to sit more on top of the obstacle and lets more of the surface of the wheel touch the side of the obstacle. Plus it makes it harder to slip over.

Frankly from people I know that have had them it's mostly bullshit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on August 29, 2023, 10:25:32 PM
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 30, 2023, 01:40:09 AM
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on August 30, 2023, 04:26:45 AM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor

Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JANUS on August 30, 2023, 04:33:55 AM
How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on August 30, 2023, 04:41:56 AM
How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.

As a sweaty monster  also, I  would also like to know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on August 30, 2023, 04:48:24 AM
Cold wash in the sink.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 30, 2023, 04:50:10 AM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
probably not skeletal but I’d still get an x-ray (and MRI if necessary). Is the pain gradually decreasing, or is it still bad as when you first hurt it? I recently fell really hard on my arse and while I had no bruising, my muscles tightened up to the point where they were pinching on the nerve which was excruciating, only physio/ stretching has helped it improve.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 30, 2023, 04:51:43 AM
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How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.
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As a sweaty monster  also, I  would also like to know.

I wash all my caps with my hands, like it's 1920 or something. Some warm water, a bit of hand soap and a brush to clean them from those sweaty stains.

The real question is, how do black clothes stay black?
They always get that funky rust looking color from the sun.
I use these towel things that you put in the washing mashine to make black clothes black again, but that doesn't last very long in my experience.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on August 30, 2023, 05:51:07 AM
hats in the dishwasher can work. gotta clean the dishwasher.
1920s method the best tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on August 30, 2023, 05:51:44 AM
I used wash my hats on top shelf of the dishwasher, and that worked ok but I got soap stains a few times. Since then, I’ve been using one of those hat-shaped plastic things you could buy at Bed Bath and Beyond before they closed, and I wash them on gentle with the rest of my gentle clothes. Obviously you will need to air dry.


One of these.
https://a.co/d/9ezOJ6o
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on August 30, 2023, 06:14:35 AM
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 30, 2023, 06:15:45 AM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
I would get a second opinion if possible.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BoxStuffer on August 30, 2023, 06:38:09 AM
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.

This is my method as well. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on August 30, 2023, 06:56:47 AM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.

Had something similar a few years ago, fell on my hip on a rail while snowboarding. Didn't bother me while doing anything except when I pushed on it (either sleeping on it or pushing with fingers or whatever). Ended up going to the doctor to have it checked and it was just a hairline fracture. Nothing the doc could do about it, and it went away completely after about 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on August 30, 2023, 07:00:14 AM
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.

@MOE SYZLAK  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on August 30, 2023, 08:08:42 AM
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.
Skated couple sets of lock-ins, they do work great. Never had to think about slipping out of rails. Does wonders to your confidence when you know that as long as your trucks are up there, they will stay there.

For something like crooked grinds i hated them. That's why i switched back to classic shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 30, 2023, 10:08:28 AM
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?

I would personally go in. I fractured my femoral head years back and honestly it didn't hurt all that bad. I crashed while riding my bike down a rainy descent and rode it back up the climb. A friend made me get a ride home, but when I got home I made a sandwich and hung out until my wife made me go in. I had a fracture halfway through the head that was slowly getting worse from weighting it.

I have fallen on it quite hard since then and had swelling, but no fracture. So, I guess I'd wanna be safe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on August 30, 2023, 10:18:21 AM
Cheers for the good advice, lads! Gnars for y’all!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on August 30, 2023, 11:12:10 AM
For washing hats, I do it in my bathroom sink. I soak them in cold water with a tiny bit of detergent for 10-15 minutes, then handwash and hang dry. Super easy and doesn't shrink or wreak the shape of your hats.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on August 30, 2023, 11:42:31 AM
I used wash my hats on top shelf of the dishwasher, and that worked ok but I got soap stains a few times. Since then, I’ve been using one of those hat-shaped plastic things you could buy at Bed Bath and Beyond before they closed, and I wash them on gentle with the rest of my gentle clothes. Obviously you will need to air dry.


One of these.
https://a.co/d/9ezOJ6o

Woah. Now I have seen it all. A cage for your caps that you put into the dishwasher. Human engineering at it's finest.

And @Easy Slider you should go see a doctor. Hips are important for dancing and skateboard playing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Murge on August 30, 2023, 11:49:10 AM
How puffy is the tyshawn low? I don’t really skate or like super puffy/bulky shoes. Biggest I’ve gone recently is like a half cab.

Trying take Advantage of a sale this weekend and wanna try some adidas. So I’m going between tyshawn and Nora. I assume tyshawn is the better show but Nora looks nicer to me being a slimmer profile.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BL0B on August 30, 2023, 12:06:08 PM
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I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.
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This is my method as well. 


yup, sometimes i'll lightly shampoo them, not the bill. i let them dry outside though my showers to damp.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 30, 2023, 12:16:42 PM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor

I agree. Only skeevy stoner hippies skip a chance to show a Dr your lower half
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on August 30, 2023, 12:17:41 PM
How puffy is the tyshawn low? I don’t really skate or like super puffy/bulky shoes. Biggest I’ve gone recently is like a half cab.

Trying take Advantage of a sale this weekend and wanna try some adidas. So I’m going between tyshawn and Nora. I assume tyshawn is the better show but Nora looks nicer to me being a slimmer profile.

not as puffy as half cabs. the padding shrunk and formed around my foot quickly. mind you it's a very narrow toed shoe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: breezy_again on August 30, 2023, 06:03:24 PM
It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!

i mentioned this thread to my friend and took pics of his board from back in the day for yall. sadly no durometer info. he said maybe 97
(https://i.imgur.com/S8DDl1N.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/u870lWv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QN41kzy.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 30, 2023, 11:51:05 PM
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I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.
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This is my method as well. 
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yup, sometimes i'll lightly shampoo them, not the bill. i let them dry outside though my showers to damp.
I just throw them into the washing machine with the rest of my clothes, never had a problem (30⁰C)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on August 31, 2023, 05:15:45 AM
Wonder why Lakais has 2 different XLK soles
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on August 31, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
Wonder why Lakais has 2 different XLK soles

They actually have three out currently and my guess is something for everyone in the cupsole realm. From the most boardfeel to feeling most protected.  They've done prior versions in the past with the GuyMar, Fremont, and Griffin models but discontinued all of those versions

A) Lightweight cupsole: Brighton, Griffin Gass Telford, and Terrace (GG) - Thin & flexible
(https://www.supereight.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Lakai-Brighton-Skate-Shoes-White-Gum-5.jpg)

B) Middleweight cupsole: Telford XLK, Altantic (VA) [debuted this sole with Vincent Alvarez] - Medium thick but still flexible
(https://plusskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/atlwh2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1572636737)

C) Heavier cupsole: Fade, Evo XLK, Mod Cup, Trudger [debuted on Simon Bannerot' s shoe I think] - Thicker and more tech but still moderately flexible. Seems to be their thickest and techest sole out
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyGQxwnxuMcysYiqwiPGYW-nni_YB7WoKucw&usqp=CAU)

Preview all 3 they offer:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_L173Xm0v2otl_0Pe8Y7MH1Q4ndpLZbpAFw&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 01, 2023, 01:00:02 AM
I really like the Lakai Atlantic with that XLK outsole. But something is weird with Lakai in Europe. For example the Telford Low costs 120€ which is way too much. And some Lakai models I never see here in Germany, not even on the internet. Even Skatedeluxe as a huge shop only has a few Lakai shoes and I feel there is generally a distribution problem in Germany with certain brands. Anyone on here might know, what is going on?

Anyway I am looking for alternatives.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alraunen on September 01, 2023, 01:50:37 AM
I really like the Lakai Atlantic with that XLK outsole. But something is weird with Lakai in Europe. For example the Telford Low costs 120€ which is way too much. And some Lakai models I never see here in Germany, not even on the internet. Even Skatedeluxe as a huge shop only has a few Lakai shoes and I feel there is generally a distribution problem in Germany with certain brands. Anyone on here might know, what is going on?

Anyway I am looking for alternatives.

For some reason Zalando has a huge selection of Lakai shoes, my friend who's obsessed with Telfords buys a lot from them. I bought a pair of Telford lows for 35 euros before summer. Not the ideal place to buy skate shoes but the prices are really good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: El Freegano on September 01, 2023, 01:59:19 AM
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Wonder why Lakais has 2 different XLK soles
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They actually have three out currently and my guess is something for everyone in the cupsole realm. From the most boardfeel to feeling most protected.  They've done prior versions in the past with the GuyMar, Fremont, and Griffin models but discontinued all of those versions

A) Lightweight cupsole: Brighton, Griffin Gass Telford, and Terrace (GG) - Thin & flexible
(https://www.supereight.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Lakai-Brighton-Skate-Shoes-White-Gum-5.jpg)

B) Middleweight cupsole: Telford XLK, Altantic (VA) [debuted this sole with Vincent Alvarez] - Medium thick but still flexible
(https://plusskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/atlwh2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1572636737)

C) Heavier cupsole: Fade, Evo XLK, Mod Cup, Trudger [debuted on Simon Bannerot' s shoe I think] - Thicker and more tech but still moderately flexible. Seems to be their thickest and techest sole out
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyGQxwnxuMcysYiqwiPGYW-nni_YB7WoKucw&usqp=CAU)

Preview all 3 they offer:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_L173Xm0v2otl_0Pe8Y7MH1Q4ndpLZbpAFw&usqp=CAU)
The thin soles (A)  is shit. It is like barefoot feeling and i don't like it for skating. I need to put two insoles otherwise it hurts. The sole also wears out super fast.
The (B) sole is better and i like it.
I have never seen models with the thickest (C) sole, but i guess they are gonna be the best for your feet.

As for the distro in Europe - there are plenty of Lakais in Bulgaria and Greece, don't know why they are not largle available in Germany.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 01, 2023, 05:12:58 AM
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Wonder why Lakais has 2 different XLK soles
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They actually have three out currently and my guess is something for everyone in the cupsole realm. From the most boardfeel to feeling most protected.  They've done prior versions in the past with the GuyMar, Fremont, and Griffin models but discontinued all of those versions

A) Lightweight cupsole: Brighton, Griffin Gass Telford, and Terrace (GG) - Thin & flexible
(https://www.supereight.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Lakai-Brighton-Skate-Shoes-White-Gum-5.jpg)

B) Middleweight cupsole: Telford XLK, Altantic (VA) [debuted this sole with Vincent Alvarez] - Medium thick but still flexible
(https://plusskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/atlwh2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1572636737)

C) Heavier cupsole: Fade, Evo XLK, Mod Cup, Trudger [debuted on Simon Bannerot' s shoe I think] - Thicker and more tech but still moderately flexible. Seems to be their thickest and techest sole out
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyGQxwnxuMcysYiqwiPGYW-nni_YB7WoKucw&usqp=CAU)

Preview all 3 they offer:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_L173Xm0v2otl_0Pe8Y7MH1Q4ndpLZbpAFw&usqp=CAU)
Damn, that was a proper answer. Gnarred.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 01, 2023, 03:38:22 PM
Happy to offer a helpful answer @moonordie !!

I've personally tried the Telford with sole A and now sole B (latest runs) and the Atlantics with sole B. Night and day difference in feel and quality between the two soles.

That sole A is so floppy and thin @ El Freegano so I did the same with some Telfords I had. When I tried to skate them, they were so thin and mushy off the bat, I couldn't do it. Turned to chillers before I passed them on to someone else.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 01, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Are the Asics aaron pros tts? considering getting some from atlas!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on September 01, 2023, 06:07:40 PM
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It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
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i mentioned this thread to my friend and took pics of his board from back in the day for yall. sadly no durometer info. he said maybe 97
(https://i.imgur.com/S8DDl1N.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/u870lWv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QN41kzy.jpg)

Send $1 for stickers and INFO to 3210 Production ave Suite B, Oceanside, CA 92054

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/TQGa9bVLnSI/AAAAAAAALzY/1Bg09sdRpxQ/s1600/reasonsswalliechrome.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 02, 2023, 12:20:17 AM
How's the sizing on fastbreaks?
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Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on September 02, 2023, 06:57:42 AM
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It’s a very specific wheel question but does anyone happen to know what durometer Matt Reason’s Physics 63mm wheels were? I’ve always been curious if anyone on here had any experience with them. As a side note clearly they were made well before any F4 or Dragon formulas existed but are there any current wheels out there that have much the same or similar feel?
I’ve wondered if they would have been rock hard 101a or a bit more forgiving 97/98/99a. To me it would make sense if they had been poured a little softer for him but I know you can get away with 101a on rougher surfaces in the larger sizes.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
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i mentioned this thread to my friend and took pics of his board from back in the day for yall. sadly no durometer info. he said maybe 97
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Send $1 for stickers and INFO to 3210 Production ave Suite B, Oceanside, CA 92054

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Very nice picture upload, thank you breezy_again. That old set of Physics wheels look even better/more appealing all aged yellow and worn a bit :)

Ray C. Usery it would of been nice to have sent off for those stickers and promotional material back in the day. You never know, some of those bits might resurface again someday in the future.

All the best!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 02, 2023, 07:19:07 AM
How's the sizing on fastbreaks?

They run large. Several of us bought pairs when they were so cheap through PacSun and multiple people (myself included) ended up with shoes too large for their feet. I wear a 9.5 in Nike but apparently even the 9 was too big in Fastbreaks, I should have ordered an 8.5. I would say order down by at least a half-size.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 02, 2023, 01:56:52 PM
How's the sizing on fastbreaks?

I find them true to size and they don't run big like other Cons (CTAS, One Star, etc.). If you don't normally have to size down in any shoes that are usually TTS, then you should be fine with TTS in them

I'm personally surprised anyone sizes down, but everyone's feet are different. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Made In China on September 02, 2023, 03:30:37 PM
I also run Fastbreaks true to size.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on September 03, 2023, 07:35:54 AM
As a fellow slightly on the taller side with some long legs, will skating ventures feel better than aces due to the diff way they effect wheelbase? Or does it not make that big of a diff?
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Post by: Big Baby Jesus on September 03, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
Has any one skated the forum 84 adv? Some good sales right now but that midsole looks thicc.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on September 03, 2023, 02:22:04 PM
As a fellow slightly on the taller side with some long legs, will skating ventures feel better than aces due to the diff way they effect wheelbase? Or does it not make that big of a diff?


in my experience, trying to do some theoretical effective wheelbase +/-x truck brands, etc etc, didn’t work, for me. too many other variables, tail length, wheel size, fingers of flat, and on.
ventures are nice, i like them more than ace, i like ace too. i am a short person, and i prefer venture, by aways.
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Post by: Wizard0f0dds on September 03, 2023, 02:55:29 PM
Has any one skated the forum 84 adv? Some good sales right now but that midsole looks thicc.

I found them way too thick at first but after one or two good sesh they started feeling pretty good. Not any less stiff, but I got used to them. If you like stiffer shoes like I do, I'd say give them a go. If you prefer your shoes to be flexible and have good boardfeel then I'd stay clear tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 03, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
As a fellow slightly on the taller side with some long legs, will skating ventures feel better than aces due to the diff way they effect wheelbase? Or does it not make that big of a diff?

Depends on the deck honestly and what pop feel you like. I prefer not having a super short deck so I tend to stick with trucks that allow me to ride 32" decks well and historically cast Venture haven't felt great on stuff that long but oddly forged ones have.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on September 03, 2023, 04:38:25 PM
To me legs and wheelbase is much less important versus how the truck actually performs…..

It’s likely the correct answer is Indy….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 03, 2023, 05:40:47 PM
As a fellow slightly on the taller side with some long legs, will skating ventures feel better than aces due to the diff way they effect wheelbase? Or does it not make that big of a diff?


Pretty much the two opposite ends of the truck scale, going from Ace 55s to Venture, guessing either 5.8 or 6.1s for size comparison?

As you had said, you are on an 8.38 now, but 8.5 to 8.75 in the past so that also can be different board to truck size, feel, etc.


I just set up an 8.75 Polar board with 14.375 wb on the basic Venture 6.1 trucks and the thing actually feels way more fun than I would have thought.  Had the trucks on something else before that, which just wasn't doing it for me, but I thought I should mix it up and see how it goes.  All second hand / used parts, just figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Other longer wb boards also feel ok with these trucks too, like the DLX 8.75 shape / white eagle which has 14.62 wb, but I prefer the more mellow / less steep kicks on anything I ride which might have helped it work for me.

Longer legs definitely help there for me, I am guessing, but it is also down to what you are used to more than anything.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on September 04, 2023, 04:33:05 AM
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?

Following up on this because a few pals have kindly replied to my post. I went for an examination today and the swollen part sticking out is the bursa bag that filled up with liquid upon hitting the ground. I got some plasters but otherwise it should go away by itself. If not, it needs to be punctuated. I can do sports in the meantime. Thanks again.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 04, 2023, 05:00:48 AM
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Following up on this because a few pals have kindly replied to my post. I went for an examination today and the swollen part sticking out is the bursa bag that filled up with liquid upon hitting the ground. I got some plasters but otherwise it should go away by itself. If not, it needs to be punctuated. I can do sports in the meantime. Thanks again.
Nice to see that you're good G
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on September 04, 2023, 05:49:09 AM
Has any one skated the forum 84 adv? Some good sales right now but that midsole looks thicc.
Just started skating pair. Walked around few days to soften them up little and switched insoles to Superfeet. I like them, flick is good and while boardfeel is not the best the impact protection is. Only negative is a little bit of heel raise but other than that very solid shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chatbot on September 11, 2023, 10:39:38 AM
Anyone order from warehouseskateboards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on September 11, 2023, 10:53:56 AM
Anyone order from warehouseskateboards?

it's been years but yeah they're legit from what i can remember
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on September 11, 2023, 11:14:01 AM
Anyone order from warehouseskateboards?
I remember from the Sale Gear thread that some people had their cc info compromised after ordering from there. I haven’t ordered from there in a few years but I never had any issues when I did. YMMV
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 11, 2023, 11:16:38 AM
Anyone order from warehouseskateboards?

Yes, I bought some bearings from them during a sale earlier this year. Everything was legitimate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 11, 2023, 09:50:22 PM
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I remember from the Sale Gear thread that some people had their cc info compromised after ordering from there. I haven’t ordered from there in a few years but I never had any issues when I did. YMMV

I think you're remember Skate Warehouse that had the CC info breach. I don't recall Warehouse Skateboards having that issue
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on September 12, 2023, 05:29:25 AM
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I remember from the Sale Gear thread that some people had their cc info compromised after ordering from there. I haven’t ordered from there in a few years but I never had any issues when I did. YMMV
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I think you're remember Skate Warehouse that had the CC info breach. I don't recall Warehouse Skateboards having that issue
Oh yeah you’re right, my mistake. Thanks for the correction
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 13, 2023, 12:28:58 AM
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I remember from the Sale Gear thread that some people had their cc info compromised after ordering from there. I haven’t ordered from there in a few years but I never had any issues when I did. YMMV
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I think you're remember Skate Warehouse that had the CC info breach. I don't recall Warehouse Skateboards having that issue
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Oh yeah you’re right, my mistake. Thanks for the correction

No problem! They have similar names
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bill Salt on September 13, 2023, 11:12:35 PM
this one
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Post by: TwisT on September 14, 2023, 06:45:12 AM
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I think you're remember Skate Warehouse that had the CC info breach. I don't recall Warehouse Skateboards having that issue
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Oh yeah you’re right, my mistake. Thanks for the correction

I ordered from warehouse earlier this year when I found they had some hats and other products mispriced and it actually shipped.

They definitely don't advertise or do sales as much as a tactic or SW. Not many deals to be found, but if you are looking for something from an established brand, willing to pay retail price, and on the East Coast, then it's good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on September 15, 2023, 06:31:05 AM
What are the differences between Powell Flight Decks and Santa Cruz VX Decks? Any advantages to Flight Decks over VX?

I know some heavier send skaters who ONLY skate like 9"+ VX Decks because they are unable to break them. they retail for about $120 here in Canada.

Powell Flight Decks are more like $150-160 CAD for a team popsicle (more for an Andy Anderson shape...) and I don't really see any major advantage here because a VX deck already seems pretty indestructible + light. 

I could see there being differences in the way that the boards age and the way the nose / tail wears down, how steep it stays, maintains pop, spring etc. but seems to me like not worth the extra $30-40.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 15, 2023, 07:13:54 AM
What are the differences between Powell Flight Decks and Santa Cruz VX Decks? Any advantages to Flight Decks over VX?

I know some heavier send skaters who ONLY skate like 9"+ VX Decks because they are unable to break them. they retail for about $120 here in Canada.

Powell Flight Decks are more like $150-160 CAD for a team popsicle (more for an Andy Anderson shape...) and I don't really see any major advantage here because a VX deck already seems pretty indestructible + light. 

I could see there being differences in the way that the boards age and the way the nose / tail wears down, how steep it stays, maintains pop, spring etc. but seems to me like not worth the extra $30-40.

Only rode the Flight in 8.25 and VX in 8.5 so I'll comment on the shapes more than the durability since I don't huck anymore. Flight decks are mellower especially around the kicks, pretty medium across the middle. VX have a very pronounced concave especially on the nose and tail, you get that signature wave when looking at the side profile.

In terms of stiffness VX beats out the Flight decks, pretty unforgiving but not as bad as a fresh DSM Impact deck which are painfully stiff for a few sessions.

My biggest complaint with both is they razor tail faster than an average 7-ply, but still remain stiff and snappy despite that.

Given the choice I'd go with VX over Flight decks, because they are readily available and you can snag some on discount from 303 or TGM, I've almost never seen Flight decks on discount online.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on September 15, 2023, 07:23:58 AM
not surprised. I had a feeling you are paying more for the name of powell rather than an increase in performance / technology.

My one friend is like 6'4" / 240 lbs and I feel like the VX would be a great board for him because he is even breaking 9.5"+ Krooked Shape boards on flat ground tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on September 15, 2023, 08:17:27 AM
I liked my flight deck but it razor’d as fast, arguably quicker than any other board so not worth it.  If you’re a board breaker, they are a good option….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 15, 2023, 09:02:49 AM
I liked my flight deck but it razor’d as fast, arguably quicker than any other board so not worth it.  If you’re a board breaker, they are a good option….

For board breakers I'd recommend the Impact decks, painfully stiff for a start but they razor at the rate of a regular 7-ply. Since Almost / Madness / Enjoi went under you can find them on clearance if you don't mind questionable graphics.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: theblandest on September 15, 2023, 03:38:34 PM
What are the differences between Powell Flight Decks and Santa Cruz VX Decks? Any advantages to Flight Decks over VX?

I know some heavier send skaters who ONLY skate like 9"+ VX Decks because they are unable to break them. they retail for about $120 here in Canada.

Powell Flight Decks are more like $150-160 CAD for a team popsicle (more for an Andy Anderson shape...) and I don't really see any major advantage here because a VX deck already seems pretty indestructible + light. 

I could see there being differences in the way that the boards age and the way the nose / tail wears down, how steep it stays, maintains pop, spring etc. but seems to me like not worth the extra $30-40.

A buddy of mine took a flight deck to the lower shin on a hardflip and it fractured his bone. Take that how you will
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Candied cigarettes on September 15, 2023, 09:04:31 PM
Please berate me if this has already been discussed in detail, but anyone have experience with strangelove? Very curious about their shapes and i really like a few guys on the team.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on September 16, 2023, 06:01:41 AM
Please berate me if this has already been discussed in detail, but anyone have experience with strangelove? Very curious about their shapes and i really like a few guys on the team.

my last has been years ago, i’ve kept it because i adore the graphic. wish i had bought more when i could have.
they used ps stix. some shapes were deliberately funky, almost early welcome levels of different. the popsicle i have, is shaped exactly how i’d like a skateboard to be: flat, mellow, some taper from front to back.
did i mention the graphics are the best?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 16, 2023, 03:50:27 PM
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Please berate me if this has already been discussed in detail, but anyone have experience with strangelove? Very curious about their shapes and i really like a few guys on the team.
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my last has been years ago, i’ve kept it because i adore the graphic. wish i had bought more when i could have.
they used ps stix. some shapes were deliberately funky, almost early welcome levels of different. the popsicle i have, is shaped exactly how i’d like a skateboard to be: flat, mellow, some taper from front to back.
did i mention the graphics are the best?


Sounds about right from seeing them around.

@Sativa Lung can tell you all about them too.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 16, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
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my last has been years ago, i’ve kept it because i adore the graphic. wish i had bought more when i could have.
they used ps stix. some shapes were deliberately funky, almost early welcome levels of different. the popsicle i have, is shaped exactly how i’d like a skateboard to be: flat, mellow, some taper from front to back.
did i mention the graphics are the best?
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Sounds about right from seeing them around.

@Sativa Lung can tell you all about them too.

Since StrangeLove use PS Stix some of their sizes (8.5 for example) may use that WKND shape that's super blunted nose and short square-ish tail. Not sure how many of their sizes use that type of mold, but I do recall StrangeLove offering quite a few decks similar to the FA/WKND style that some love and others loathe.

Definitely check the specs or see if IRL photos of the board can be found if you're not in a shop
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on September 17, 2023, 01:08:49 AM
Please berate me if this has already been discussed in detail, but anyone have experience with strangelove? Very curious about their shapes and i really like a few guys on the team.

Wutchu wanna know bud?

I've had about 10-12 of them. Got really into them right before they got popular and the hypebeast kids temporarily turned them into the dunks of skateboard decks. They use PS and cliver is very involved in the shaping and dimensions they use, it's not just off the shelf shit in most cases. My favorite is the short 8.25 they run with a stubby little tail, but the 8.12 and 8.5 are both nice too. The dims and stuff should be listed on the site but just beware that they list length with concave like PS so the tip to tip will be shorter.

Also if you send cliver a SASE with $2 in it he'll send it back absolutely stuffed with stickers and a handwritten thank you note. After all these years, still one of the best and most creative dudes in skating and I wholeheartedly encourage you and anyone else who reads this to support them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on September 17, 2023, 04:08:56 AM
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For board breakers I'd recommend the Impact decks, painfully stiff for a start but they razor at the rate of a regular 7-ply. Since Almost / Madness / Enjoi went under you can find them on clearance if you don't mind questionable graphics.

i wonder jacuzzi will offer something similar because it is the same woodshop?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on September 21, 2023, 12:14:31 AM
Has anyone successfully fixed axle slip? I've tried the old-school solution of putting Bones spacers into my Bones wheels and cranking them down tight. I went for a quick morning push around town and now the board feels sluggish (because there's way too much preload). Probably because the spacers aren't wide enough? I also miss the wiggly-wiggly feeling and bark of loose wheels on the axle.

A man on YouTube alleges to fix his slipping Ventures with a propane torch and hammer. It's obviously really nice of him to put the video up to help others, but I don't really see how it's a permanent solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLN9w8gafTc

Does anyone happen to remember those Titan Ti-Lites with the little screw in the center of the axle? Think it would be worth the effort to replicate it? I don't have access to a drill press, just a drill, so it makes me apprehensive to ruin a bunch of bits trying to drill through a titanium axle. Has anyone done this before?


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vxbrandon on September 21, 2023, 12:35:56 AM
Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on September 21, 2023, 12:38:47 AM
Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

If it fits the trucks I wanna run, +/- any less than .25in is fine wit me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on September 21, 2023, 07:42:58 AM
Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

I find I care less about the width than the WB and as long as its fatter than the trucks ( cant stand hot rods)
Like Primitive has a really good deal for the mystery boxes, and I really like their 8.38" size because it has a short wb at 14-1/8", while the 8.5" from them runs a 14.5" wb which i am not a huge fan of. i can hardly tell the difference in width, but the difference in wb feels very noticeable to me. so yeah since I could find a deal, I just found something that worked well for me out of what was available on sale :) good luck!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 21, 2023, 08:10:53 AM
Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

Not really. When you start getting to the fractional measurements, everything is pretty squishy. I can move between 8 and 8.25" without any issues whatsoever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on September 21, 2023, 10:29:48 AM
Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.
To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 21, 2023, 10:49:50 AM
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Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.
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To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.

Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on September 21, 2023, 02:26:58 PM
Does anyone happen to remember those Titan Ti-Lites with the little screw in the center of the axle? Think it would be worth the effort to replicate it? I don't have access to a drill press, just a drill, so it makes me apprehensive to ruin a bunch of bits trying to drill through a titanium axle. Has anyone done this before?

wasn't familiar with them so i had to look up those titan ti-lites and yeah it certainly seems like a way to fix axle slip as long as it goes all the way through like theirs seems to, otherwise i feel like someone might end up with a lurpiv kingpin situation. only thing i'm noticing about those vs venture is that it doesn't look like the axle is exposed at all on the backside/kingpin side? i'm only looking at one ebay listing so the photos might not be the best example though

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on September 21, 2023, 03:01:33 PM
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Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.
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To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.
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Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.
My bad for the unintentional miscommunication, Ol' Ruggy.
What I meant to convey is that BOTH of the boards were DLX brands (1 krooked, 1 real) as made by BBS, as opposed to some sort of made in China "complete" scenario from either brand.
An apples to apples camparo, as it were.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 21, 2023, 03:38:26 PM
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Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.
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To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.
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Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.
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My bad for the unintentional miscommunication, Ol' Ruggy.
What I meant to convey is that BOTH of the boards were DLX brands (1 krooked, 1 real) as made by BBS, as opposed to some sort of made in China "complete" scenario from either brand.
An apples to apples camparo, as it were.


To me, woodshop and concave come first above everything else, so a different woodshop with concave that I am not used to is going to be a definite NO from me.

Anything from BBS and especially anything DLX is going to be a whole lot closer to each other, but then skating a board with a 14.5 wb on the 8.38 compared to skating a board with a 14.25 wb on the 8.5 board, I can really feel the difference.

Others are often not quite so picky with anything, but trying a slightly different board can be a lot of fun too, just to see, so who knows - maybe you will like it a lot, maybe you will like it less, but then at least you know what you do want or what you don't want for future deck purchases.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 24, 2023, 10:26:48 AM
Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on September 24, 2023, 11:42:15 AM
Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?
I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 24, 2023, 12:37:51 PM
To whoever asked about noticing the difference in mm on deck sizes.  Yes and no, for me.

I've been on a steady diet of BBS 8.5s for years now (Polar, Black Label, Heroin, Primitive, Antihero, Real, Krooked, etc.) and strayed to 8.38 and 8.6 a couple times here and there. I notice it because I'm so adjusted to 8.5 shapes that the slight mm in width or WB feels different thsn what I'm already used to.

8.25 legitimately feels cramped to me after riding 20+ 8.5 decks over the years. 8.0 and below would feel like a fucking tech deck under my feet.

That said, 8.25 is the absolute smallest I could go and still adjust somewhat comfortably for all the skating I do. I skate transition, flat ground, manual, ledge, some drops/gaps, etc. and something smaller (even 0.25 of an inch) than my current setup would feel off in any of these areas. At least until I adjust if it's not too much of an impediment to my existing muscle memory

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on September 24, 2023, 01:06:52 PM
What are the differences between Powell Flight Decks and Santa Cruz VX Decks? Any advantages to Flight Decks over VX?

I know some heavier send skaters who ONLY skate like 9"+ VX Decks because they are unable to break them. they retail for about $120 here in Canada.

Powell Flight Decks are more like $150-160 CAD for a team popsicle (more for an Andy Anderson shape...) and I don't really see any major advantage here because a VX deck already seems pretty indestructible + light. 

I could see there being differences in the way that the boards age and the way the nose / tail wears down, how steep it stays, maintains pop, spring etc. but seems to me like not worth the extra $30-40.

Where do you find giant VX decks?
The widest ones I’ve seen are the Creature Gardner and Santa Cruz Winkowski popsicle. They’re wide enough, but lacking in WB, kicks and length.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 24, 2023, 03:16:10 PM
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I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.


I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 25, 2023, 09:48:57 AM
Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

I love the dude, but let's be realistic about the type of skater who is actively seeking out a Drehobl deck in late 2023.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 25, 2023, 10:16:23 AM
A 37 year old Dad that only skates curbs, ledges, and manual pads of course!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 25, 2023, 06:51:14 PM
What is the use case for smaller softer wheels?

Darkroom did 50 and 52mm 90a and 52mm 95a, which doesn't fit the needs of technical skating, cruising or ATV. 52mm 95a kinda makes sense but anything smaller doesn't since tiny wheels are terrible at maintaining speed.

Powell Dragons are their own thing since their formula is good enough to justify 52mm 93a in a skinny wheel profile.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: breezy_again on September 25, 2023, 06:59:54 PM
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Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?
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I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.
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I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/
there's this one named two face(https://i.imgur.com/fQNpOmr.png)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lamfordie on September 25, 2023, 07:55:50 PM
For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on September 25, 2023, 08:52:55 PM
For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 25, 2023, 09:47:51 PM
What is the use case for smaller softer wheels?

Darkroom did 50 and 52mm 90a and 52mm 95a, which doesn't fit the needs of technical skating, cruising or ATV. 52mm 95a kinda makes sense but anything smaller doesn't since tiny wheels are terrible at maintaining speed.

Powell Dragons are their own thing since their formula is good enough to justify 52mm 93a in a skinny wheel profile.


I know some people put them on a cruiser type setup like a Zip Zinger for just lazy rolls, not really needing to get anywhere fast, but not having normal harder wheels and they didn't want big cruiser wheels on there either.

Some of the tech type boards also benefit from softer wheels on crusty ground where people don't want to slide, eg just skating flat in a carpark or road, where bigger wheels don't allow for flat ground flip type tricks as well.


Overall I tend to agree, softer and smaller wheels are not such a good combination, but I have quite a few of them on setups for beginners / kids, as well as the completes that come with those softer wheels, which help them learn and don't slip out on much at all, so they are a little safer in slippery indoor parks and ramps, as well as give them a bit less drama as they tend not to stop on anything like harder wheels do, eg sticks, rocks, or anything else.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 25, 2023, 11:22:45 PM
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For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?
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You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
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Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in
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Post by: manysnakes on September 26, 2023, 07:41:00 AM
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For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?
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You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
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Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in

I felt the same way about the 1010. I initially thought that I hated them, but after wearing them for a month or so as "chillers", they turned into one of the best shoes I ever skated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 26, 2023, 08:05:54 AM
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For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?
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You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
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Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in
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I felt the same way about the 1010. I initially thought that I hated them, but after wearing them for a month or so as "chillers", they turned into one of the best shoes I ever skated.
After skating 808 for almost a year I feel 1010 like Authentics. Love both shoes, can't wait to try 480 and my curiosity is only getting bigger regarding 600
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pops on September 26, 2023, 11:15:43 AM
Anyone tried the "new" Dane 1 yet? I think they extended the wheelbase slightly and made the board a hair shorter. Curious because I love the og Dane 1 and will definitely another one but not sure if it feels the same anymore.  :(
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on September 26, 2023, 02:13:27 PM
Anyone tried the "new" Dane 1 yet? I think they extended the wheelbase slightly and made the board a hair shorter. Curious because I love the og Dane 1 and will definitely another one but not sure if it feels the same anymore.  :(
The Oski Dane1 from this season is probably 14.38. I haven't seen it in person and I see it listed as the old wb mostly with a few places showing the 14.38. I'm guessing those are the places that measure every time or knew about the change and checked the newest drop. I bought a couple of them from last season recently and that's probably it for me for the Dane. There are plenty of other shaped decks with that kinda wheelbase with better noses out there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 26, 2023, 02:51:20 PM
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Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?
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I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.
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I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/
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there's this one named two face



Nice!

I didn't look too hard, but what drop was this one in?

Still looks fairly current, in stock in quite a few places, but I just don't see a mention of it in the catalogs that I did bring up.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on September 26, 2023, 03:07:18 PM
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I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.
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I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/
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there's this one named two face

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Nice!

I didn't look too hard, but what drop was this one in?

Still looks fairly current, in stock in quite a few places, but I just don't see a mention of it in the catalogs that I did bring up.
It's from Fall 22 drop 2 just FYI
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 26, 2023, 03:16:24 PM

It's from Fall 22 drop 2 just FYI


https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2022/


That's maybe the only one that didn't come up before, but of course there it is.

Thanks!!

:)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 27, 2023, 09:53:31 AM
why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 27, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride

Opposite for me, FS are my go-to safety trick. The key is hang a bit more toe off for the front 180 and twist once you leave the coping.
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Post by: scab on September 27, 2023, 10:29:17 AM
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why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride
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Opposite for me, FS are my go-to safety trick. The key is hang a bit more toe off for the front 180 and twist once you leave the coping.

Samesies. I feel most in control on FS disasters. I can do them backside too, but I have to work up to them literally every session, they never stick. No idea why, once I get one I can replicate them and even think to myself "oh yeah, this is how to do them", but for some reason I can't keep them from session to session.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on September 28, 2023, 04:18:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cVoFmSF.jpg)
Not a question but this makes me sad.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on September 28, 2023, 06:42:56 AM
"You're a legend and all, but only Tom gets a pro model. Best we can do is a colorway."
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Barack Hussein on September 28, 2023, 11:41:08 AM
This might be super dumb - but can you just take an insole from a shoe that you already skated and switch it into a brand new shoe to skip some of the break in? Any disadvantages to taking that route?
 
I'm not sure if insoles really like 'wear out' like the rest of a shoe or if they pretty much just stay good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on September 28, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
This might be super dumb - but can you just take an insole from a shoe that you already skated and switch it into a brand new shoe to skip some of the break in? Any disadvantages to taking that route?
 
I'm not sure if insoles really like 'wear out' like the rest of a shoe or if they pretty much just stay good.

I do it all the time. The downside would be that the insole is potentially worn out, but on the other hand, it could be perfectly "broken in" for your needs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 28, 2023, 03:40:04 PM
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This might be super dumb - but can you just take an insole from a shoe that you already skated and switch it into a brand new shoe to skip some of the break in? Any disadvantages to taking that route?
 
I'm not sure if insoles really like 'wear out' like the rest of a shoe or if they pretty much just stay good.
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I do it all the time. The downside would be that the insole is potentially worn out, but on the other hand, it could be perfectly "broken in" for your needs.


For shoes that are a little too tight, stiff or otherwise would give you blisters, pain and misery from new, using an old worn in insole really helps there, so when the shoe is nicely worn in or even on its way out, putting in the new insole can help to give it a little more support and keep the shoe going a bit longer as well.

Obviously if the sole is worn out, it is game over, but quite a few people have done this in the past and it has worked well to break in new shoes and keep older shoes going.

Some insoles are good for many pairs of shoes over and over, but some are almost done before the shoe itself is through.  Depends on the brand and I guess what the insole is made of too.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on September 29, 2023, 03:28:10 PM
I love rotating insoles around to different shoes. Especially when I find brand X has a removable insole that I enjoy. I'll keep them until they're dust usually. My favorites are Etnies STI, State Footwear, and Emerica G6 insoles.

They allow you to break in new shoes quicker (fit and comfort is usually better) and squeeze a few drops out of some shoes that usually would be ready to trash like MBrimson said.

Here's a list of insoles I've used from brands that last long enough to move from shoe to shoe in no particular order:

Es: Energy Foam

Nike SB/Cons: React, Lunarlon, Zoom Air

Etnies: STI Pro Foam

Emerica: G6 (removable insole, only present on their G6 vulc models)

State Footwear: standard vulc insole

Vans: Ultracush, Popcush, Ultracush 3D

Alternatives I've either not tried or tried with less than stellar success

Lakai: DeluxLite/LuxLite

Hours is Yours: Goddess insoles (the newest ones)

Globe: Nitrolite, Lux Shockbed

Last Resort AB: Cloudy Cush (the new revised ones)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on September 29, 2023, 10:33:52 PM
why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride

I'm fairly consistent at both directions, but doing BS disaster on bigger stuff takes more guts for me. Personally, I think my FS are kinda gross but I toss one on the biggest QP most sessions just to retain them.

What's tripping you up?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 30, 2023, 04:05:10 PM
I love rotating insoles around to different shoes. Especially when I find brand X has a removable insole that I enjoy. I'll keep them until they're dust usually. My favorites are Etnies STI, State Footwear, and Emerica G6 insoles.

They allow you to break in new shoes quicker (fit and comfort is usually better) and squeeze a few drops out of some shoes that usually would be ready to trash like MBrimson said.

Here's a list of insoles I've used from brands that last long enough to move from shoe to shoe in no particular order:

Es: Energy Foam

Nike SB/Cons: React, Lunarlon, Zoom Air

Etnies: STI Pro Foam

Emerica: G6 (removable insole, only present on their G6 vulc models)

State Footwear: standard vulc insole

Vans: Ultracush, Popcush, Ultracush 3D

Alternatives I've either not tried or tried with less than stellar success

Lakai: DeluxLite/LuxLite

Hours is Yours: Goddess insoles (the newest ones)

Globe: Nitrolite, Lux Shockbed

Last Resort AB: Cloudy Cush (the new revised ones)


It is funny with some shoes, at least trying on way too many shoes in skate shops or where I used to work, just to see what they are like, but I definitely could have used some of the insoles from various shoes over the years, way more than the shoes themselves.

What insoles were in the Koston shoes, cause they were amazingly thick and sponge like???  Maybe twice as thick as the other lunarlon insoles in Cons and Nike shoes, but in the same colour.

The G6 insoles are another one that come to mind, that were easily accessible with lots of shoes on clearance so it was almost cheaper just to buy the shoes for the insoles and give away the shoes with something else in them.

Both of those I never did go through with it, but it always interests me to pull out insoles and check / compare them.

Most recently the Last Resort looked pretty good, much like the Huf and Gravis insoles from way back when, but also the Habitat and Diamond shoes, which all resembled the first version of the Vans insoles, the thicker rubber feel material before popcush or ultracush or any of the ones out now.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on September 30, 2023, 05:05:59 PM
If you get the opportunity to try a React insole in a Vans skate vulc you should give it a try. The insoles are the same height and I really liked them in Half Cabs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 30, 2023, 09:40:29 PM
Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on September 30, 2023, 09:49:57 PM
Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.

Peanut butter and elbow grease works for regular sticker adhesive. I suspect it will do the same for grip tape
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on October 01, 2023, 05:41:32 AM
Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.

I used WD-40 and a piece of flat plastic with good results but I didn't regrip I wall hung it so dunno if it interferes with re-gripping.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 01, 2023, 06:07:12 AM
Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.

She-bear spit and the grille of a Studebaker
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 01, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.


I have had and seen quite a few struggles with similar things, but I found it was just best to regrip straight over the residue and not try to clean it off.  This was always black or non clear grip, so if you are wanting to put clear grip or something a little more fancy in the grip cut out / art options on it, that might not be such a good idea.

Comes down to what will work fairly easily, vs what is just going to be a real time consuming pain that might not even give the desired results, if the clear grip is not going to stick well afterwards, which is what I found with some grip after cleaning off the board completely.  The cleaning products still left their own residue and took off the top graphic along with the old grip, for one setup I saw someone else try too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on October 01, 2023, 05:13:40 PM
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Tips on removing grip tape adhesive residue?
 Not wanting to sand it off, acetone, lacquer thinner, and miners spirits is fine on steel, not good on wood. I’m still going to need to grip it and it’s not going black top so trying to get it back to clean. Any tried and trues appreciated.
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I used WD-40 and a piece of flat plastic with good results but I didn't regrip I wall hung it so dunno if it interferes with re-gripping.
Goo Gone left to soak for maybe 10 minutes max and then elbow grease and a rag should probably work also.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bob george on October 01, 2023, 07:19:40 PM
one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 01, 2023, 10:23:31 PM
one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?

Bought a new unskated deck but it was gripped and I always do my scrap crap grip jobs. If I don’t it’s not my board.
@Mbrimson88 yeah, if I was going full grip it wouldn’t be an issue but there’s going to be lots of cuts so it’d just grab dirt and look like crap after a second of riding.

I’ve heard Ronson lighter fluid(liquid kind for zippos) can work on sticker residue but was hoping to hear from someone else that may have used it. If worse comes to worse I can just try an eraser wheel on it. I mean it works on cars for removing stickers, vinyl stripes, and double back tape but I’m worried it may burn the wood since it’s such a big area.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 01, 2023, 11:04:59 PM
Personally, I will never regrip a board. The juice is literally never worth the squeeze given the process.

That said, I'm taking notes in case some freak scenario occurs where I do have to regrip to keep skating until a new board can be set up
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on October 02, 2023, 12:35:13 AM
I used to be in the "never gonna regrip my board" camp for ages, but then I did it once for a deck that still had some life to it but had a really shitty grip in shitty condition.

I skated that board for a long time after that, and now I'm def on the regrip camp whenever a deck outlasts a grip. It's actually not that huge an effort once you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 02, 2023, 02:13:03 AM
I used to be in the "never gonna regrip my board" camp for ages, but then I did it once for a deck that still had some life to it but had a really shitty grip in shitty condition.

I skated that board for a long time after that, and now I'm def on the regrip camp whenever a deck outlasts a grip. It's actually not that huge an effort once you get the hang of it.
For me the trick is to not use the free grip included since, usually, is a waste of time
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on October 02, 2023, 02:38:26 AM
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I used to be in the "never gonna regrip my board" camp for ages, but then I did it once for a deck that still had some life to it but had a really shitty grip in shitty condition.

I skated that board for a long time after that, and now I'm def on the regrip camp whenever a deck outlasts a grip. It's actually not that huge an effort once you get the hang of it.
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For me the trick is to not use the free grip included since, usually, is a waste of time

I don't do that either anymore, but sometimes even a good grip can die before the deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on October 02, 2023, 03:09:17 AM
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I used to be in the "never gonna regrip my board" camp for ages, but then I did it once for a deck that still had some life to it but had a really shitty grip in shitty condition.

I skated that board for a long time after that, and now I'm def on the regrip camp whenever a deck outlasts a grip. It's actually not that huge an effort once you get the hang of it.
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For me the trick is to not use the free grip included since, usually, is a waste of time
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I don't do that either anymore, but sometimes even a good grip can die before the deck.


I think regripping can be strangely quite an enjoyable process, especially if you're trying out/setting-up secondhand decks from eBay etc. I got into the habit of doing it quite regularly when trying out new deck sizes regularly on the cheap. Hairdryer, fresh Stanley blade, (some patience) and you're good to go.

I also back the comment that cheaper/free grip isn't really worth it, I made the mistake of specifically using Enuff griptape for quite along time when re-gripping until recently, I found it went quite easy on my shoes in terms of wear and tear and thought that was perfect for me. However, when I eventually stuck with the same set-up for a while I discovered it went bald pretty quickly and resulted in re-gripping being required. Moved on to Jessups now and it seems good/more durable!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 02, 2023, 12:08:14 PM
I have a question regarding Etnies and Emerica shoes.
I am aware the sizing is different across various shoe models. But is there a sizing difference within the same shoe model? Etnies Marana for example. Does that shoe always fit the same, regardless of color or material?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 02, 2023, 12:32:12 PM
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why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride
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I'm fairly consistent at both directions, but doing BS disaster on bigger stuff takes more guts for me. Personally, I think my FS are kinda gross but I toss one on the biggest QP most sessions just to retain them.

What's tripping you up?
for some reason it just feels more scary to commit to once I learned bs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on October 02, 2023, 01:31:55 PM
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why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride
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I'm fairly consistent at both directions, but doing BS disaster on bigger stuff takes more guts for me. Personally, I think my FS are kinda gross but I toss one on the biggest QP most sessions just to retain them.

What's tripping you up?
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for some reason it just feels more scary to commit to once I learned bs

I guess my only advice would be to start back small and work them up, even scooting em on banks or mellow spots might help get confidence back on doing the motion. Could always skate perpendicular to a curb and do ollie 180 lip/disaster, that could help solidify foot placement. or deck check roll-ins might be helpful.

just some thoughts. hope you get em back!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 02, 2023, 01:38:13 PM
I have a question regarding Etnies and Emerica shoes.
I am aware the sizing is different across various shoe models. But is there a sizing difference within the same shoe model? Etnies Marana for example. Does that shoe always fit the same, regardless of color or material?

I've skated 10+ and own 10+ maranas currently and I'd wager over 95% of my Maranas have fit identical to each other. I have a couple models that are a bit more snug in the toe, but one of those is a full leather, and the other is suede like every other colorway They usually release. Leather may fit tighter than usual but suede should be consistent each time with slight variability.

That toe cap on the Marana is great but can be rough to break in for some since it can make the shoe fit tighter than expected at first
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
re: regrip...what helps me is cross gripping ie. horizontal, pieces are easier to get off than full grip. . Its not a bad idea especially over the winter....

On front d/back d....back d is an extended axel stall, front d is rather a pushed out frontside grind ie. slash or ollie from down low up to disaster....IMO they are very different tricks. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on October 02, 2023, 03:10:08 PM
re: regrip...what helps me is cross gripping ie. horizontal, pieces are easier to get off than full grip. . Its not a bad idea especially over the winter....

On front d/back d....back d is an extended axel stall, front d is rather a pushed out frontside grind ie. slash or ollie from down low up to disaster....IMO they are very different tricks.

i'd agree with that. for bs (slide or stall) I usually just whip the tail around, with a lil bump off the cope, find that center and take it in. fs I'll tend to ollie as opposed to bumping the coping, for disaster anyway. Ollieing into a fs lipslide on a qp is kinda funky to me, mostly bump or edge out to the sldie
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 02, 2023, 03:11:55 PM
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one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?
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Bought a new unskated deck but it was gripped and I always do my scrap crap grip jobs. If I don’t it’s not my board.
@Mbrimson88 yeah, if I was going full grip it wouldn’t be an issue but there’s going to be lots of cuts so it’d just grab dirt and look like crap after a second of riding.

I’ve heard Ronson lighter fluid(liquid kind for zippos) can work on sticker residue but was hoping to hear from someone else that may have used it. If worse comes to worse I can just try an eraser wheel on it. I mean it works on cars for removing stickers, vinyl stripes, and double back tape but I’m worried it may burn the wood since it’s such a big area.


Yes those in between areas end up a big mess.  Even when people don't peel off the warning sticker fully and the sticker residue leaves a mess in between racing stripes or similar, it looks messy.

I often pick up boards from others that are sometimes brand new, great deck, terrible grip job or just grip in a brand / colour / graphic or some weird thing on the grip that means the grip has to go, so off it comes and there is no way I can get a lot of whatever is still stuck to the board off, especially with Shake Junt grip, so although I still use pieces to give lines, I have zero gaps whatsoever on those boards.

That might be an option, although it can be a pain if you are cutting things up and like gaps between them.


Also totally get it when you say, if you haven't gripped it how you usually do, it is not your board - even having lines in different areas to where I often do makes a board weird to ride, like it is someone else's board and not my own.


Good luck with the process and I am sure as others have said, it would be interesting to hear / see results.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on October 02, 2023, 07:43:35 PM
Do Ace bushings fit in the Indy Stage 4's/215's?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 02, 2023, 08:12:42 PM
https://skatesamples.com/

Anybody know the wheelbase of the 8.5 boards of these generator blanks? 14.5 or 14.38? Or could it be 14.25?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 08:22:40 PM
https://skatesamples.com/

Anybody know the wheelbase of the 8.5 boards of these generator blanks? 14.5 or 14.38? Or could it be 14.25?

I believe they send out their standard shape - 8.38 x 32 x 14.38, 8.5 x 32.25 14.5

Pulled from Tactics who also use their standard BBS shapes for their shop decks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 02, 2023, 08:25:20 PM
Perfect, couldn't find that chart on their site. Thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: minilogoflow on October 02, 2023, 08:31:38 PM
Perfect, couldn't find that chart on their site. Thanks


(https://i.ibb.co/7tTn2SV/Order-Samples.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tTn2SV)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on October 03, 2023, 10:26:54 AM
Do Ace bushings fit in the Indy Stage 4's/215's?
Maybe somebody has a better answer but they are both taller than stage 11 height so my guess is probably. Indy also released their full line of aftermarkets in that height now too so you got that going for you.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2023, 07:23:07 PM
Does anyone have the dimensions of the Clutch O9 (8.5) shape? The O8 I have is 8.38 x 31.75 x 14.25, standard dimensions but I wish it was closer to a 32.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on October 03, 2023, 08:15:31 PM
Anyone know what shape supreme uses? Specifically for their 8.25. Is it like a dlx shape or closer to an of the shelf bbs?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 03, 2023, 08:33:38 PM
Anyone know what shape supreme uses? Specifically for their 8.25. Is it like a dlx shape or closer to an of the shelf bbs?

off the shelf bbs, should be 8.25 14.25
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 04, 2023, 04:08:45 PM
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Do Ace bushings fit in the Indy Stage 4's/215's?
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Maybe somebody has a better answer but they are both taller than stage 11 height so my guess is probably. Indy also released their full line of aftermarkets in that height now too so you got that going for you.


Same question / answers in the bushings thread current page (23) which I took your reply and added to it.

Might be interesting to check that or add to it as well.


Bushings thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.660

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on October 05, 2023, 01:21:22 PM
Probably dumb but has anyone tried to get a bit more grip out of worn down toe foxing/bumpers?

Ive got some Rowans that have some life left in them, but my flick and ollies are feeling slow and forced. The "grip strip" is bald af, but the sole and upper are pretty intact. I could use a new board for sure, but fresh grip will just eat them for breakfast. Kinda want to retire the current board and shoes at the same time.

Any ideas on how to supplement flick for the time being? I was thinking cross hatching small cuts with a razor/knife if it won't take forever. Or if this is fucking stupid feel free to tell me!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on October 05, 2023, 01:32:52 PM
Dragons or X97 for a slippery indoor park? I normally do 99a just fine but this new park is like an ice skating rink. Do a lot of revert tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 05, 2023, 01:44:55 PM
Dragons or X97 for a slippery indoor park? I normally do 99a just fine but this new park is like an ice skating rink. Do a lot of revert tricks.
X97 all day and night unless the ground is somehow super rough, while also being slippery
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 05, 2023, 10:35:30 PM
any ig accounts covering pros setups?
was few, looks like they stopped
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 05, 2023, 11:30:27 PM
any ig accounts covering pros setups?
was few, looks like they stopped

Ride Channel or some other group, Alli Sports ? I think used to do pro set up videos, so there's definitely some YT cataloging, but this would be another cool niche IG account for someone to spearhead.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on October 06, 2023, 12:10:53 AM
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Dragons or X97 for a slippery indoor park? I normally do 99a just fine but this new park is like an ice skating rink. Do a lot of revert tricks.
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X97 all day and night unless the ground is somehow super rough, while also being slippery

Definitely X97. Dragons will feel like woollen socks. Unless that's what you're looking for.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on October 07, 2023, 10:52:20 AM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 07, 2023, 10:54:29 AM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)


dishwasher is a recommended method. seems kinda gross to me, but washing machines mess hats up pretty good
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 07, 2023, 12:22:52 PM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)
If it’s not wool, hand soap in a sink w/cold water.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on October 07, 2023, 12:55:27 PM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)

Search hat washer for washing machine on Amazon. I wash my hats with the rest of my clothes in the washing machine on cold, low spin, and I put it in a mesh bag. Air dry. Done this a dozen times or so with no issue.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 07, 2023, 06:27:44 PM
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How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)
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Search hat washer for washing machine on Amazon. I wash my hats with the rest of my clothes in the washing machine on cold, low spin, and I put it in a mesh bag. Air dry. Done this a dozen times or so with no issue.

I use a similar method. I have one of those plastic hat-shaped things and I toss that into a delicates bag and wash on gentle.
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Post by: cucktard on October 07, 2023, 08:35:51 PM
Get some clothing specific bar soap or whatever and wash it in the shower next time you take one
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Tom Pearl on October 10, 2023, 03:39:09 PM
anybody else atrocious if they skate more than twice a week?

i thought if i skate all the  time then that'll equal getting better, nope. complete opposite

but if i skate only like twice a week then everything works for some reason

 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 10, 2023, 04:28:47 PM
anybody else atrocious if they skate more than twice a week?

i thought if i skate all then time then that'll equal getting better, nope. complete opposite

but if i skate only like twice a week then everything works for some reason


Sometimes pushing yourself too much can end up overdoing it, so nothing will work to 100% as you still haven't come back from the last session.

Having a reasonable period between strenuous exercise depends on the individual, some people do only skate once or twice a week, others skate almost every day, so it is down to how much you do and what you do to keep yourself going, eg not having enough of the right things, food and drink, can leave you barely functioning, or at least not at your potential.

Whatever the case, getting to know what works for you is the main thing.  Once you figure it out or eat / drink more if you are doing more, then things should come up, but always running on empty is not a good way to do things.

You don't need to have the diet or schedule of an elite athlete, but quite often some things you do or don't do will affect everything more than you might think.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 10, 2023, 06:28:07 PM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)
When I get a new hat, I will come back from skating and run warm water over it for a few minutes. Really soak it. Then I let it air dry. I get a lot of life from my hats doing this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 11, 2023, 04:25:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/viwWIHW.jpg)
How accurate is this thing? Impossible to find here in EU but if anybody could share the dims to 3D printing that would be sick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: truthislie on October 11, 2023, 04:47:25 AM
I´m an old ass guy and out of the loop in the real skate world. Watching skatevideos I get the feeling that NB numeric has surpassed Nike SB as the most popular skate shoe brand. I personally like NB better even though I don´t mind skating nike at all. Since my skating nowadays consists of empty solo park sessions I don´t know if NBs following really is bigger now. Probably also depends where you live. Any thoughts?
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Post by: Dustgod on October 11, 2023, 05:03:06 AM
I´m an old ass guy and out of the loop in the real skate world. Watching skatevideos I get the feeling that NB numeric has surpassed Nike SB as the most popular skate shoe brand. I personally like NB better even though I don´t mind skating nike at all. Since my skating nowadays consists of empty solo park sessions I don´t know if NBs following really is bigger now. Probably also depends where you live. Any thoughts?

Where I live it’s definitely a fairly even split of Nike, adidas and nb but I seldom see nb on anyone under 30. Those who skate them always have good things to say but I’m sticking with adidas
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on October 11, 2023, 09:21:30 AM
anybody else atrocious if they skate more than twice a week?

i thought if i skate all the  time then that'll equal getting better, nope. complete opposite

but if i skate only like twice a week then everything works for some reason

I feel 2-3 times a week is the sweet spot for me. I'm 34 and  even a few hours of low impact skating can take a toll on my knees. I tweaked my back knee under rotating off a kicker when I was snowboarding in 2018 and still get a slight pain from it if I skate too much or don't have supportive shoes. Probably should have seen a doctor but never got to it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on October 11, 2023, 09:56:53 AM
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I´m an old ass guy and out of the loop in the real skate world. Watching skatevideos I get the feeling that NB numeric has surpassed Nike SB as the most popular skate shoe brand. I personally like NB better even though I don´t mind skating nike at all. Since my skating nowadays consists of empty solo park sessions I don´t know if NBs following really is bigger now. Probably also depends where you live. Any thoughts?
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Where I live it’s definitely a fairly even split of Nike, adidas and nb but I seldom see nb on anyone under 30. Those who skate them always have good things to say but I’m sticking with adidas
im 24 and numerics are most likely gonna be my main choice
see heads around my age in brooklyn rocking 440/480/808/1010
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Post by: LebowskisRug on October 11, 2023, 10:08:21 AM
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anybody else atrocious if they skate more than twice a week?

i thought if i skate all the  time then that'll equal getting better, nope. complete opposite

but if i skate only like twice a week then everything works for some reason
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I feel 2-3 times a week is the sweet spot for me. I'm 34 and  even a few hours of low impact skating can take a toll on my knees. I tweaked my back knee under rotating off a kicker when I was snowboarding in 2018 and still get a slight pain from it if I skate too much or don't have supportive shoes. Probably should have seen a doctor but never got to it

I'm the same. I do other activities as well and skating much more just leaves me under-recovered. When I do skate I am pretty much skating non-stop the entire session and have a kinda dependable warm up routine so I can figure out how I am feeling and find some goals for the day. Ben Degros has a video about it, but if you can rattle off one of everything per sesh and focus on cleaning a few things up/trying a few new things over time that will really add up as an effective use of time.
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Post by: rawbertson. on October 11, 2023, 10:51:56 AM
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How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)
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Search hat washer for washing machine on Amazon. I wash my hats with the rest of my clothes in the washing machine on cold, low spin, and I put it in a mesh bag. Air dry. Done this a dozen times or so with no issue.
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I use a similar method. I have one of those plastic hat-shaped things and I toss that into a delicates bag and wash on gentle.

i just spray it off with the sprayer from my kitchen sink
i also just wash some of my pants like this where the colour will leak onto other clothes so i cant really machine wash them

when i went on a trip to iceland this summer there was no where to wash my clothes for a reasonable price, so i just washed them using the shower and then dried them on the towel warmer. they smelled fine to me. you can pack a lot lighter this way...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TableClearer on October 12, 2023, 03:31:56 AM
Was droors clothing always a skate-centric brand?

Found a pair of cargo's the other week and was wondering if they were sold elsewhere after switching to DC?

(little before my time, so excuse the potentially obvious question)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Hubba Bo-Tep on October 12, 2023, 04:38:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/viwWIHW.jpg)
How accurate is this thing? Impossible to find here in EU but if anybody could share the dims to 3D printing that would be sick.

You can buy direct from their site, and they ship international if you really want one.  I got one delivered to the UK no problem and it does what it says it does.  Only had to use it once so far, but yeah, it works.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GBLange on October 12, 2023, 07:35:29 AM
How do I wash the sweaty disgusting cap I wear while skating? Cap or hat? I don't know, it's this one:

(https://freedomskateshop.at/cdn/shop/products/last_resort_ab_daddy_cap_beige_front_640d9c00-2a26-4c32-ae78-e08ca513aaeb_180x.webp?v=1681990969)

I use those foamy fabric car seat cleaners on my new eras..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 12, 2023, 08:59:14 AM
Wouldn't it be cool if Fred had a movie made about him.

I'd fuckin watch that shit. Wouldn't you?

I wish we lived closer because I'd start writing it.

Be like mid 90s meets kids meets Fight of the Navigator cuz you know mofoing aliens been kneeling at the feets of Gall for some time.

In the halls of Valhalla two bust sit right next to my twisted throne which is blackened from the perpetual burning of non hackers and their lack of switch ability.

Not everyone was made for skate hala

Guy Mariano and Fred Gall.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 12, 2023, 12:56:27 PM
Dunno if I should ask this in sale gear but does anyone have a line on some cheap but not shitty completes for kids? Thinking of picking a couple up for the toys 4 tots box at work.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on October 12, 2023, 12:58:41 PM
Dunno if I should ask this in sale gear but does anyone have a line on some cheap but not shitty completes for kids? Thinking of picking a couple up for the toys 4 tots box at work.
I know you said cheap, but don't miss this opportunity to flex on the other parents by dropping off a couple Quasi completes. https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8 (https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 12, 2023, 01:45:15 PM
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I know you said cheap, but don't miss this opportunity to flex on the other parents by dropping off a couple Quasi completes. https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8 (https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8)

Tempting, but I want to get like 3-4 so price does matter somewhat. I was hoping dwindle would be having a fire sale and they kind of are, but TYS shut down checkout until they finish moving to their new location. Tactics has some decent prices ones so I might just do that, but I figured I'd ask around first.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 12, 2023, 02:54:09 PM
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I know you said cheap, but don't miss this opportunity to flex on the other parents by dropping off a couple Quasi completes. https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8 (https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8)
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Tempting, but I want to get like 3-4 so price does matter somewhat. I was hoping dwindle would be having a fire sale and they kind of are, but TYS shut down checkout until they finish moving to their new location. Tactics has some decent prices ones so I might just do that, but I figured I'd ask around first.


Not sure about in other places besides Australia, such as the US now (as I haven't looked) but the Element completes that came down to AU$20 here (RRP AU$100+) that I picked up a number of to pass around / have for kids to use have actually been really good and held up well.  If Element products are still on ridiculous cheap sales, this might be an option too.

Dwindle completes were decent too, but they were still twice the price of those other completes and don't seem to be on clearance anything like some of the other Dwindle products.

I think the market for budget completes has really come a long way, with most brands now having a decent board, good trucks with soft bushings, slightly softer wheels and quite reasonable parts now, but checking some of their own sites for certain brands as well as known clearance shops, you might find some interesting things.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 12, 2023, 06:39:21 PM
@Sativa Lung - bless your heart

Element ones are pretty cheap, you can sign up for their mailing list and they give you a 1st purchase discount code but I'm not sure if it still stacks on sale items.

SWH's Daily Dose can get pretty low if you check in daily, they have site wide sales which stack with their clearance items, check during holidays and are likely going to have one during Halloween.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on October 14, 2023, 09:36:40 PM
Powell Miniature Logo completes: $55 to you door, if you’ve got the Evilzon Prime.

https://www.amazon.com/Mini-Logo-Patterns-Maze-8-25/dp/B09XNBN9L6/ref=asc_df_B09XNBN9L6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=658707743409&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15275412638928891531&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031942&hvtargid=pla-2079860591510&psc=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-KipBhBtEiwAWjgwrHTa9Bu_eIX8GYcLhKX3GBwKcW_h9gCqGHxFRw3qAJXjbQOdDT-iRxoCX7UQAvD_BwE&th=1
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2023, 03:19:19 AM
Accel Slim vs 1010 Tiago experiences?


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 15, 2023, 04:00:58 AM
Accel Slim vs 1010 Tiago experiences?
You're comparing a shoe that pretty much everybody says sucks vs a shoe that pretty much everybody loves.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2023, 04:13:32 AM
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Accel Slim vs 1010 Tiago experiences?
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You're comparing a shoe that pretty much everybody says sucks vs a shoe that pretty much everybody loves.


The 1010 is hated, really? Why is that?

I was just watching some reviews (YouTube) and they all were good.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 15, 2023, 04:14:26 AM
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The 1010 is hated, really? Why is that?

I was just watching some reviews (YouTube) and they all were good.
You got it all backwards
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2023, 05:29:58 AM
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The 1010 is hated, really? Why is that?

I was just watching some reviews (YouTube) and they all were good.
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You got it all backwards


Haha the accel is hated?! I thought it’s the skate shoe everyone agrees on?!?

I‘m so confused!

Why is it not good?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 15, 2023, 05:37:15 AM
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The 1010 is hated, really? Why is that?

I was just watching some reviews (YouTube) and they all were good.
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You got it all backwards
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Haha the accel is hated?! I thought it’s the skate shoe everyone agrees on?!?

I‘m so confused!

Why is it not good?

People LOVE the idea of the Accel, specifically how it was 2010 and before (likely even earlier than that for a rough cut off line) due to its popularity early on for being a solid shoe.

Tiago - speaks for himself and the shoe is no different.

Accel Slim that Es created in 2014/15 when they rejoined the market is widely seen as a cheap, flimsy version of the OG Accel. And the Accel OG has its own issues in its current mold/fit since 2014

Again, people love the nostalgia of ÉS and Accel, but the quality of models they make right now is all over the place: some things done well, others done poorly. Ironically, their modern flagship staple (Accel Slim) is a half baked design that even Vans Skate vulcs can outlast, and that's saying something because Vans have never been durable
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 15, 2023, 07:24:45 AM
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You're comparing a shoe that pretty much everybody says sucks vs a shoe that pretty much everybody loves.
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The 1010 is hated, really? Why is that?

I was just watching some reviews (YouTube) and they all were good.
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You got it all backwards
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Haha the accel is hated?! I thought it’s the skate shoe everyone agrees on?!?

I‘m so confused!

Why is it not good?
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People LOVE the idea of the Accel, specifically how it was 2010 and before (likely even earlier than that for a rough cut off line) due to its popularity early on for being a solid shoe.

Tiago - speaks for himself and the shoe is no different.

Accel Slim that Es created in 2014/15 when they rejoined the market is widely seen as a cheap, flimsy version of the OG Accel. And the Accel OG has its own issues in its current mold/fit since 2014

Again, people love the nostalgia of ÉS and Accel, but the quality of models they make right now is all over the place: some things done well, others done poorly. Ironically, their modern flagship staple (Accel Slim) is a half baked design that even Vans Skate vulcs can outlast, and that's saying something because Vans have never been durable


i really wish wade didn’t make the accel slim look so decent.

the shocking thing about the slim for me is how they felt less padded than most vulc shoes. very minimal protection.
hole the first day in the upper. skated ok tho.

1010 is one of the nicest shoes i’ve skated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on October 15, 2023, 08:59:20 AM
If you have to go with an eS shoe go for the Swift 1.5

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on October 15, 2023, 11:12:44 AM
Anybody ever try these Straye slip-on/slippers? I need a house slipper with more support than what they usually offer and I saw these

https://straye.com/collections/ventura-mule
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on October 15, 2023, 11:31:17 AM
anyone know a good way to get rid of the dumb little embroidered patch that’s always on the back of Butter goods pants/shorts? I have a pair of green carpenter shorts from them that I hardly wear because of the silly butt patch and id like to remove it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on October 15, 2023, 02:33:21 PM
anyone know a good way to get rid of the dumb little embroidered patch that’s always on the back of Butter goods pants/shorts? I have a pair of green carpenter shorts from them that I hardly wear because of the silly butt patch and id like to remove it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
id gently go at it with a sharp xacto knife
or a seam ripper tool
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Slugboi22 on October 15, 2023, 02:36:48 PM
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anyone know a good way to get rid of the dumb little embroidered patch that’s always on the back of Butter goods pants/shorts? I have a pair of green carpenter shorts from them that I hardly wear because of the silly butt patch and id like to remove it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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id gently go at it with a sharp xacto knife
or a seam ripper tool
that’s kind of what i figured. thank you! they always manage to have some kind of dumb little design on a perfectly good pair of denim. :/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2023, 02:59:55 PM
I bought the es accel slim for really cheap. Skated them today the first time and think they skate really good. Not sure how durable they are.


Also ordered the 1010‘s. I heard from a friend they are too hard to skate (for him).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 15, 2023, 05:28:18 PM
I bought the es accel slim for really cheap. Skated them today the first time and think they skate really good. Not sure how durable they are.


Also ordered the 1010‘s. I heard from a friend they are too hard to skate (for him).


I feel like personal experience with shoes is very different from one to another, as well as one very well worn in pair of shoes on its last legs compared to even a brand new pair of the same shoes straight out of the box.

Most shoes that hold up and last longer will often feel too stiff or tough from the start, with the shoes that are often perfect straight out of the box often not holding up half as long overall, but this is just a generalization too - every shoe can be different for the individual.


I like the feel of soft thin vulc shoes, so trying on even some of the old worn in cup soles I have, they feel too stiff and solid for me.  Others try on a brand new pair of the shoes I usually skate and ask how are my feet not completely ruined or how am I still able to walk after wearing the shoes I do for as long as I have.

That is just the different experiences with what could be the same comparisions of shoes, so see how you go on those ones and then adjust or change out the insole if needed, or try the other ones when they arrive for comparison.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on October 15, 2023, 08:09:34 PM
I bought some accel slims, I think after one of those TJ VX parts, and they were the puffiest shoe I’ve seen first hand in a while.  Disappointed but I was hyped on TJ and es at the time so it’s whatever
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Trail on October 16, 2023, 11:25:55 AM
Any of the last resort shoes run on the wider side?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on October 16, 2023, 11:30:41 AM
I'll add to my above post: I skated at least 4-5 accel slims and owned and wore (but didn't skate) almost 10 at least over the years.  Early on, I liked the shoe and swapped in a good insole to make hem more protective/comfortable. That's how they worked for me until one day they didn't provide enough support/fit comfortably and I needed to main something like a Marana or a Joslin.

I didn't find the Accel Slim particularly durable, and it was quite thin of a sole, but for some people that works. They want quality of skating well for a shorter time (Accel Slim) rather than breaking in a stiffer shoe and skating okay to well over longer (Tiago 1010). Which, is totally valid. The build quality is not world class on many es models nowadays, but still gets the job done. So, if it works for ya, more power to ya!

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: realbasedgod112 on October 17, 2023, 09:11:59 PM
I´m an old ass guy and out of the loop in the real skate world. Watching skatevideos I get the feeling that NB numeric has surpassed Nike SB as the most popular skate shoe brand. I personally like NB better even though I don´t mind skating nike at all. Since my skating nowadays consists of empty solo park sessions I don´t know if NBs following really is bigger now. Probably also depends where you live. Any thoughts?
nike is probably more popular overall (due to streetwear guys, sneakerheads etc.) but from what i've seen NB and nike SB are about equal popularity with skaters
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 17, 2023, 10:17:12 PM
my question:

which current pro, skates the smallest setup
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: bbk on October 18, 2023, 03:09:40 AM
Bashinsky's been on 7.5 since forever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: AsianVegan on October 18, 2023, 05:26:35 AM
Aleka Lang skates a board that looks fucking miniature, even next to size 12 DC’s and bigger than big boy pants
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 18, 2023, 05:30:10 AM
Any of the last resort shoes run on the wider side?

I've only worn vm001 but they're not too skinny and they're suede vulcs so they stretch out a little. The leather ones took a few weeks to loosen up and were pretty uncomfortable until then, but I was mostly wearing them as dress shoes rather than skating them.

I found a couple heart supply and element completes on eBay for the toy bin. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on October 18, 2023, 05:46:54 AM
Any of the last resort shoes run on the wider side?

vm003s feel wider than vm001s in the same size. more space in the vm003s, but not enough to go half size down imo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 18, 2023, 07:07:26 AM
my question:

which current pro, skates the smallest setup

Is Louie Barletta current? He skates a 7.5", but also he's somewhere between 48-60 years old, depending on the day.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on October 18, 2023, 07:09:12 AM
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I´m an old ass guy and out of the loop in the real skate world. Watching skatevideos I get the feeling that NB numeric has surpassed Nike SB as the most popular skate shoe brand. I personally like NB better even though I don´t mind skating nike at all. Since my skating nowadays consists of empty solo park sessions I don´t know if NBs following really is bigger now. Probably also depends where you live. Any thoughts?
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nike is probably more popular overall (due to streetwear guys, sneakerheads etc.) but from what i've seen NB and nike SB are about equal popularity with skaters

I feel like I usually see a good mix, but that Nike is still probably a plurality of the skate shoes I see locally. It probably helps that the local shop is one of the big Nike dealers and that they regularly stock Dunks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on October 18, 2023, 07:10:59 AM
Accel Slim MSRP @ $120 vs. Tiago 1010 MSRP $145 (Canadian $)
Creager shoe $170!! wow! hahaha im sorry that is just wildly expensive for what you are getting there! cant believe people are paying that!

I have skated the recent builds of Es and lots of NB# and its like clear as day the construction and materials on NB# is superior
theres just no way sole tech has the same sort of producing power that those giant companies do and you can see and feel it in the quality of the shoes.

The Es Accell OG has a very durable sole, but it has like zero board feel, so when you go over to a slim it makes more sense - it definintely feels like a more current shoe. I would only consider buying Accel Slim @ $60 and still I could find Nike SB, Vans, Cons, probably even some NB for that price range on sale. i think you would have a better time finding a less expensive NB# model or just look for a 1010 on sale.
 
The board feel (in my opinon) is way better on NB# soles but they are not mega long lasting by any means. i have never had a problem blowing sides or laces out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 18, 2023, 07:44:36 AM
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my question:

which current pro, skates the smallest setup
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Is Louie Barletta current? He skates a 7.5", but also he's somewhere between 48-60 years old, depending on the day.

i mean bachinsky isn’t current either.
 maybe rodrigo? everyone else has sized up to at least 8 i think.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Trail on October 18, 2023, 07:52:50 AM
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vm003s feel wider than vm001s in the same size. more space in the vm003s, but not enough to go half size down imo

Thanks I was thinking VM003 or CM001
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lincoln on October 19, 2023, 12:36:04 AM
Was just watching the UCI vs. Heath video of J. Strickland's archives: https://youtu.be/iGnmVLX1_TM?feature=shared&t=51

Can anybody identify these shoes Heaths wearing at 0:51?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on October 19, 2023, 12:54:05 AM
Was just watching the UCI vs. Heath video of J. Strickland's archives: https://youtu.be/iGnmVLX1_TM?feature=shared&t=51

Can anybody identify these shoes Heaths wearing at 0:51?



(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V5ZIjeEB90E/Td3EBfo9xkI/AAAAAAAAN4s/hgXWhlU8Olo/s1600/iwishthiswasntahookupsadchrome.jpg)
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Post by: lincoln on October 19, 2023, 01:38:15 AM
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Was just watching the UCI vs. Heath video of J. Strickland's archives: https://youtu.be/iGnmVLX1_TM?feature=shared&t=51

Can anybody identify these shoes Heaths wearing at 0:51?
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V5ZIjeEB90E/Td3EBfo9xkI/AAAAAAAAN4s/hgXWhlU8Olo/s1600/iwishthiswasntahookupsadchrome.jpg)

Wow thanks!
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Post by: Uncle Flea on October 21, 2023, 09:35:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hCZtbMp/IMG-20231022-000736-173.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zN70p5K)
(https://i.ibb.co/tCQtyrn/IMG-20231022-000745-042.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4NKGBrC)
(https://i.ibb.co/b2C1zBg/IMG-20231022-000752-894.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txvB8sM)
(https://i.ibb.co/RDpRPMx/IMG-20231022-000802-579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1mfFKpD)
(https://i.ibb.co/CnQx7KY/IMG-20231022-000829-959.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jdXt3C)
(https://i.ibb.co/vJMMw0j/IMG-20231022-000836-731.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0fzzDHG)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZVzTT7D/IMG-20231022-000842-130.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PNGCC0H)

Look at this old shit. Cool right?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on October 22, 2023, 08:41:56 AM
How are DSM decks? Solid? Shitty? Are they all made in China? Does it matter? Lotsa questions.

Got my eyes on a high concave 8.25 from Enjoi, the shape is nice, but I've never owned a DSM made board before. Any recommendations / caveats would be appreciated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jogging José on October 22, 2023, 08:58:31 AM
How are DSM decks? Solid? Shitty? Are they all made in China? Does it matter? Lotsa questions.

Got my eyes on a high concave 8.25 from Enjoi, the shape is nice, but I've never owned a DSM made board before. Any recommendations / caveats would be appreciated.

DSM decks are solid. They are all made in China.

In comparison with BBS or PS Stix the DSM decks are on the stiffer side…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on October 22, 2023, 10:01:54 AM
How are DSM decks? Solid? Shitty? Are they all made in China? Does it matter? Lotsa questions.

Got my eyes on a high concave 8.25 from Enjoi, the shape is nice, but I've never owned a DSM made board before. Any recommendations / caveats would be appreciated.
Skated exclusively DSM decks for years. Stiff as fuck and the kicks in most enjoi decks were steep. Would still happily go back but harder to get DSM wood now that Dwindle shit the bed.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 22, 2023, 10:37:30 AM
Was there a year or two where decks dramatically got bigger? Looking at the start of the setup thread thjngs were still pretty small same with pro setup videos on YouTube.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on October 22, 2023, 03:59:39 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hCZtbMp/IMG-20231022-000736-173.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zN70p5K)
(https://i.ibb.co/tCQtyrn/IMG-20231022-000745-042.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4NKGBrC)
(https://i.ibb.co/b2C1zBg/IMG-20231022-000752-894.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txvB8sM)
(https://i.ibb.co/RDpRPMx/IMG-20231022-000802-579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1mfFKpD)
(https://i.ibb.co/CnQx7KY/IMG-20231022-000829-959.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jdXt3C)
(https://i.ibb.co/vJMMw0j/IMG-20231022-000836-731.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0fzzDHG)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZVzTT7D/IMG-20231022-000842-130.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PNGCC0H)

Look at this old shit. Cool right?
You set me up for a good question for this thread but I'm gonna have to bend the wording to make it fit Shoes and Gear.

Since I don't see Frankie Hills' board in that poster, who was he riding for in 1991? Had he already been injured?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 22, 2023, 04:28:40 PM
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Look at this old shit. Cool right?
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You set me up for a good question for this thread but I'm gonna have to bend the wording to make it fit Shoes and Gear.

Since I don't see Frankie Hills' board in that poster, who was he riding for in 1991? Had he already been injured?


The look of all those boards are more 80s, maybe 1989 or so or very early 1990, but I didn't follow things that closely.  Hawk medallion is also listed as 1990, so who knows.

I just know the board shapes I had from 1990 and the Frankie Hill board are newer than those ones, so that might have been before Frankie Hill, even in the same year, but an earlier release.

As per Art of Skateboarding site, Frankie Hill had Powell boards from 1990 through 1993, then Consolidated 1993 to 1994 then all over the place after that.

Of course that might not have everything, but I am still guessing he was not yet part of the pro roster at that point.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 22, 2023, 04:54:01 PM
Was there a year or two where decks dramatically got bigger? Looking at the start of the setup thread thjngs were still pretty small same with pro setup videos on YouTube.


i think 2007 ish is when i remember seeing that stuff. people riding 8+ on 5.0s and shit. baker 3.
i remember being out skating with some guys in this city, 2008 and they were all on 149s, 54s, 8.25s. their shit looked tough! i was skating a 7.6 with lo’s and 50s and they were flying down hills. it was shocking. i found an old tws buys guide, 2010 with all of the pro setups and pretty much everyone is skating 8-8.5 decks, lots of 139s. brent atchley’s is easy for me to remember because he was skating 7.5, 129 indy lows, and 49s. blasting some air at burnside. there was still a few pros with boards/trucks less than 8. just a guess but by 2012, the kit was 8.25 board on indy 149s. seemed like everyone was about it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 22, 2023, 05:36:11 PM
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Was there a year or two where decks dramatically got bigger? Looking at the start of the setup thread thjngs were still pretty small same with pro setup videos on YouTube.
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i think 2007 ish is when i remember seeing that stuff. people riding 8+ on 5.0s and shit. baker 3.
i remember being out skating with some guys in this city, 2008 and they were all on 149s, 54s, 8.25s. their shit looked tough! i was skating a 7.6 with lo’s and 50s and they were flying down hills. it was shocking. i found an old tws buys guide, 2010 with all of the pro setups and pretty much everyone is skating 8-8.5 decks, lots of 139s. brent atchley’s is easy for me to remember because he was skating 7.5, 129 indy lows, and 49s. blasting some air at burnside. there was still a few pros with boards/trucks less than 8. just a guess but by 2012, the kit was 8.25 board on indy 149s. seemed like everyone was about it.


Yeah I feel like the explosion of board widths was somewhat delayed there in USA compared to other places, maybe still is to some degree with a lot more people still riding 8 more so than 8.5 and up, but that is about right.  I recall so many kids wanting bigger and bigger boards around 2004 to 2010, almost like it was a competition to get the biggest / widest board. Some kids up on brand new Creature 8.8 on 169s and looking a little silly at that, but whatever hey?!?  The options for wider boards still didn't carry through most brands, with their "token vert board" being the only 8.25 and up, everything else being 7.8 through 8.1 and the occasional bigger board, going by old catalogs of various brands.

The 144s (and most other 8.25 sized trucks around 2017) came out somewhat later with the interest in 8.25 boards really coming up from 2012 to 2018, but before that a lot of people were riding 139s on 8 or 8.1 options, with the 8.25 size boards being more common with 149s, which just didn't really work as well, but 8.5 with 149s did work well enough for a lot of people who then sized back down somewhat after that to end up around the 8.25 to 8.38 boards on 8.25 trucks, if that all makes sense.

In the middle of that were still a lot of guys who didn't want to size up trucks, but who did try the wider boards, hence all the 8.5 or so on narrow trucks that was around for a while too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 22, 2023, 07:25:51 PM
interesting. so in aus ya’ll we’re going bigger in the setups, earlier?
there was the big size up in the early 2000s, were folks moved from venture 5.0s, to indy 139s.

looking back at really old setup videos, bob was skating the mega with like an 8.25.
the big board thing for certain became a fashionable thing. i remember getting really sparked on the Cory setup, with the huffer shape, in 2014 ish, and buying
multiple different large sized trucks to try and a shop
employee at a very ‘hesh’ shop was just kinda over it, mentioning something about how going past 159s was pretty limiting. he wasn’t wrong. lots of tiny kids on 8.75s for a minute there. not a lot of pop.
where i was, in the 90s, you were borderline a kook for having a board that was 8” and above. there was one local that could do all of the flip tricks, switch tres and that, and he skated a larger than 8” board. obviously no one was saying shit because he was super nice, and uh, way better than all of us.
not sure when more of the street pros started skating larger trucks. maybe haslam? he was maybe on 149s before some of the others.
it’s funny looking at some dill and ave footage and they have smaller boards, venture lo’s, and like 54s.

right now i’m kooking it and all stoked on tiny boards, but trying to ride bigger stuff has been a pretty funny way for me to spend more money to skate worse.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dong Hanglo on October 23, 2023, 05:38:21 AM
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Was just watching the UCI vs. Heath video of J. Strickland's archives: https://youtu.be/iGnmVLX1_TM?feature=shared&t=51

Can anybody identify these shoes Heaths wearing at 0:51?
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V5ZIjeEB90E/Td3EBfo9xkI/AAAAAAAAN4s/hgXWhlU8Olo/s1600/iwishthiswasntahookupsadchrome.jpg)
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Wow thanks!

Am I tripping or is Brian Sumner the one skating in the sequence and the brand put the wrong name on the ad?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on October 23, 2023, 05:41:46 AM
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Was just watching the UCI vs. Heath video of J. Strickland's archives: https://youtu.be/iGnmVLX1_TM?feature=shared&t=51

Can anybody identify these shoes Heaths wearing at 0:51?
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V5ZIjeEB90E/Td3EBfo9xkI/AAAAAAAAN4s/hgXWhlU8Olo/s1600/iwishthiswasntahookupsadchrome.jpg)
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Wow thanks!
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Am I tripping or is Brian Sumner the one skating in the sequence and the brand put the wrong name on the ad?
You're tripping, that's young HK
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on October 23, 2023, 06:24:43 AM
Gonz / Krooked seemed to be the first newer company that started putting out bigger boards and shape boards, I want to say that was around like 2004-2005. I feel like that is the time 8" was the most popular size.
I seem to remember a lot of Anti Hero skaters riding bigger boards back in like 2012 kinda like what Brimson was saying
T Funk was already skating a huge 9" looking board 7+ years ago, I feel like it was somewhere around there it started getting really popular to the point every brand offering up to 8.5" and it seemed like 8.25" became the most common size. and then the square noses came shortly after I think.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 23, 2023, 06:31:14 PM
interesting. so in aus ya’ll we’re going bigger in the setups, earlier?
there was the big size up in the early 2000s, were folks moved from venture 5.0s, to indy 139s.



There were definitely a lot of people going up a lot, but not everyone, that's for sure, and maybe even more of the kids and new skaters, compared to the older guys, or better guys, who had it all worked out on whatever they were currently on, some still riding 8 or at most 8.25 boards.

I was still riding the 8.125 (black eagle) on 139s as my main board up until 2017, then on 144s for a year after that, but I had one 8.5 (blue eagle) setup and one 8.75 (white eagle) setup, more so just to have the option to roll around on bigger boards when I was lazy or injured, but they definitely were not my main setups.

I think USA was always way bigger in the skate world, so had a lot more seasoned pros and others who were used to smaller boards, so that was the main factor behind board sizes NOT going up as much as other places in the world too.  Sure the average pro now might be on a bigger board, but a lot of guys are still riding around 8" and not going bigger.


Looking back at a few kids who are now adults (at least the ones who still skate) and most who went to big board world around that time, then came back down to a more comfortable size, eg 8.25 to 8.38 which is a more common thing now, I think those two being the main sizes in the range that sell the most.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on October 24, 2023, 08:05:34 AM
imo

8" : size 7-9 shoe
8.25" 9-11 shoe
8.5": 11-12 shoe
8.75": 12+
9": BA
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on October 24, 2023, 09:13:44 AM
imo

8" : size 7-9 shoe
8.25" 9-11 shoe
8.5": 11-12 shoe
8.75": 12+
9": BA
Does board size correlate to dick size also since we already know foot size does?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on October 24, 2023, 11:10:36 AM
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Was there a year or two where decks dramatically got bigger? Looking at the start of the setup thread thjngs were still pretty small same with pro setup videos on YouTube.
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i think 2007 ish is when i remember seeing that stuff. people riding 8+ on 5.0s and shit. baker 3.
i remember being out skating with some guys in this city, 2008 and they were all on 149s, 54s, 8.25s. their shit looked tough! i was skating a 7.6 with lo’s and 50s and they were flying down hills. it was shocking. i found an old tws buys guide, 2010 with all of the pro setups and pretty much everyone is skating 8-8.5 decks, lots of 139s. brent atchley’s is easy for me to remember because he was skating 7.5, 129 indy lows, and 49s. blasting some air at burnside. there was still a few pros with boards/trucks less than 8. just a guess but by 2012, the kit was 8.25 board on indy 149s. seemed like everyone was about it.
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Yeah I feel like the explosion of board widths was somewhat delayed there in USA compared to other places, maybe still is to some degree with a lot more people still riding 8 more so than 8.5 and up, but that is about right.  I recall so many kids wanting bigger and bigger boards around 2004 to 2010, almost like it was a competition to get the biggest / widest board. Some kids up on brand new Creature 8.8 on 169s and looking a little silly at that, but whatever hey?!?  The options for wider boards still didn't carry through most brands, with their "token vert board" being the only 8.25 and up, everything else being 7.8 through 8.1 and the occasional bigger board, going by old catalogs of various brands.

The 144s (and most other 8.25 sized trucks around 2017) came out somewhat later with the interest in 8.25 boards really coming up from 2012 to 2018, but before that a lot of people were riding 139s on 8 or 8.1 options, with the 8.25 size boards being more common with 149s, which just didn't really work as well, but 8.5 with 149s did work well enough for a lot of people who then sized back down somewhat after that to end up around the 8.25 to 8.38 boards on 8.25 trucks, if that all makes sense.

In the middle of that were still a lot of guys who didn't want to size up trucks, but who did try the wider boards, hence all the 8.5 or so on narrow trucks that was around for a while too.


I got an 8.5 deck around 2006 or 2007. Back then they were still rather rare and hard to get, so I made sure to get the one I had seen. But that changed pretty soon after. Would say around 2008-2010 there was more of a selection of 8.5s to choose from. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 24, 2023, 02:41:49 PM
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imo

8" : size 7-9 shoe
8.25" 9-11 shoe
8.5": 11-12 shoe
8.75": 12+
9": BA
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Does board size correlate to dick size also since we already know foot size does?

i wish. skating a 7.5 and
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on October 27, 2023, 04:33:50 PM
Is gullwing trucks gone now? I randomly though about them and tried to find a website for them, no luck. No post on thier insta since last year also.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 27, 2023, 05:01:48 PM
Is gullwing trucks gone now? I randomly though about them and tried to find a website for them, no luck. No post on thier insta since last year also.


Guessing the relevance of an old brand like Gullwing is just not there any more, even though they did make more modern looking trucks and I recall seeing a few people riding them, or riding for them.

Like the end water scene from Titanic, Gullwing silently slipped under the surface and didn't come back up again, with no one really noticing for a while.


I would imagine there would be quite a few more brands disappearing in these trying times, as per quite a few others I have seen quietly close down since the pandemic.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pugmaster on October 27, 2023, 08:01:01 PM
Does anyone know how long it took PJ Ladd to take his shoes to this point?

(https://i.imgur.com/XPC8Koy.png)

I DMd him like a man and am awaiting a response.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on October 27, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
Is gullwing trucks gone now? I randomly though about them and tried to find a website for them, no luck. No post on thier insta since last year also.

The company that bought sector nine also got Gullwing. They're still making trucks but they haven't made the classic/dumb 80's version since they were bought.

https://www.sector9.com/collections/trucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on October 28, 2023, 01:22:52 AM
Thanks ! Forgot they did longboard stuff.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: breezy_again on October 28, 2023, 05:37:00 AM
certain shops buy the hell out of those sidewinder trucks. i'm like who the fuck is riding these things?! i've never seen anyone riding a set in real life.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on October 28, 2023, 07:53:21 AM
who has skated the palace boards, specifically those with the longer wb? i love short tails. i don’t like longer boards. these seem fun, but i always tease others about buying off of dimensions, and yet, here i am
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 28, 2023, 05:08:48 PM
who has skated the palace boards, specifically those with the longer wb? i love short tails. i don’t like longer boards. these seem fun, but i always tease others about buying off of dimensions, and yet, here i am


Some people on here have had them.

Just don't have the time right now to search, but a few came up with just Palace in Shoes and Gear in general.

These ones:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.msg3719320#msg3719320

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=94518.msg4022567#msg4022567

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126088.msg4014384#msg4014384

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122395.msg4016089#msg4016089


The main thing I recall from someone was that the board is not that short, and maybe was 32.2 or so long after all.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on October 28, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
who has skated the palace boards, specifically those with the longer wb? i love short tails. i don’t like longer boards. these seem fun, but i always tease others about buying off of dimensions, and yet, here i am
My ex got me one for my bday few yrs ago, I hated that thing as I like 14-14.25” wb… It was ok to skate our indoor bowl with vert wall but fliptricks were pain in the ass, I gave it away after few sessions.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on October 29, 2023, 06:15:39 PM
Anyone ever ordered the DGK ghetto box with the 3 mystery decks and 3 grip for $100....$125 shipped? Anyone got a dgk discount code to bring the price down any by chance? Is it worth it? How is their wood....not familiar with who they use but maybe ps stix?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on October 29, 2023, 07:45:24 PM
Anyone ever ordered the DGK ghetto box with the 3 mystery decks and 3 grip for $100....$125 shipped? Anyone got a dgk discount code to bring the price down any by chance? Is it worth it? How is their wood....not familiar with who they use but maybe ps stix?
I seem to remember people ordering those around the end of the year/X-mas sales out of the US sale thread so maybe search DGK in there. According to Kalis (and others but he straight up came on here once to defend their wood) they use BBS and so they should be as good as the next brand that uses them. As far as shapes go, I would have no idea but they have pretty standard dims if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2023, 08:21:58 PM
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Anyone ever ordered the DGK ghetto box with the 3 mystery decks and 3 grip for $100....$125 shipped? Anyone got a dgk discount code to bring the price down any by chance? Is it worth it? How is their wood....not familiar with who they use but maybe ps stix?
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I seem to remember people ordering those around the end of the year/X-mas sales out of the US sale thread so maybe search DGK in there. According to Kalis (and others but he straight up came on here once to defend their wood) they use BBS and so they should be as good as the next brand that uses them. As far as shapes go, I would have no idea but they have pretty standard dims if I recall correctly.


Yes BBS and fairly normal shapes, but they were doing China wood for a minute (maybe more so the lenticular series), so they could be those ones they are getting rid of / clearing out.  I guess that is the unfortunate thing with any "Mystery" box hey?!?


What shape in particular, or you getting a few / have options?

I have seen / had 8, 8.1, 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 which are all pretty much the same as Baker shapes and wood if you needed a comparison there.

https://dgk.com/en-au/products/100-dgk-skate-ghetto-box


They have dimensions listed on some or all of their boards too:



https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/mr-boo-8-06-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.06” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.54”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/grillz-quise-8-1-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.1” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.54”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/santa-de-oro-fagundes-8-25-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.25” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.56”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/midnight-club-bilyeu-8-38-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.38” / Length: 32.22” / Wheelbase: 14.5” / Nose: 6.98” / Tail: 6.48”



They all look about right, from what I can recall.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on October 30, 2023, 03:59:36 AM
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Anyone ever ordered the DGK ghetto box with the 3 mystery decks and 3 grip for $100....$125 shipped? Anyone got a dgk discount code to bring the price down any by chance? Is it worth it? How is their wood....not familiar with who they use but maybe ps stix?
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I seem to remember people ordering those around the end of the year/X-mas sales out of the US sale thread so maybe search DGK in there. According to Kalis (and others but he straight up came on here once to defend their wood) they use BBS and so they should be as good as the next brand that uses them. As far as shapes go, I would have no idea but they have pretty standard dims if I recall correctly.
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Yes BBS and fairly normal shapes, but they were doing China wood for a minute (maybe more so the lenticular series), so they could be those ones they are getting rid of / clearing out.  I guess that is the unfortunate thing with any "Mystery" box hey?!?


What shape in particular, or you getting a few / have options?

I have seen / had 8, 8.1, 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 which are all pretty much the same as Baker shapes and wood if you needed a comparison there.

https://dgk.com/en-au/products/100-dgk-skate-ghetto-box


They have dimensions listed on some or all of their boards too:



https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/mr-boo-8-06-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.06” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.54”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/grillz-quise-8-1-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.1” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.54”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/santa-de-oro-fagundes-8-25-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.25” / Length: 31.85” / Wheelbase: 14.31” / Nose: 6.75” / Tail: 6.56”


https://dgk.com/en-au/collections/pro-decks/products/midnight-club-bilyeu-8-38-skateboard-deck

Board Size: 8.38” / Length: 32.22” / Wheelbase: 14.5” / Nose: 6.98” / Tail: 6.48”



They all look about right, from what I can recall.

Yo! Thanks for providing all those dimensions of their shapes. Appreciate all the info!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on October 30, 2023, 07:10:00 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzBn9oEOdiw/?img_index=3

can anyone confirm the location of this hubba in clip 3 ? i always heard it was "in bryan herman's backyard" but overthinkingskatevideos says it was actually the owner of Pharmacy skateshop's house which kinda makes more sense. I imagine it was just really close to where Bryan was living or something and thats where that rumour got started. always loved seeing clips of that thing!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on October 31, 2023, 05:10:33 AM
in the comments:
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Donny [Donovan] owned the house, but rented it to Herman at one point, it originally had a warehouse in the backyard to hold pharmacy’s online store inventory
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 01, 2023, 09:09:59 AM
Are the etnies joslins ok for running? I want to try running and I'm not gonna get super expensive shoes when I might only do it a few times.
Alternatively, all I have are vans rowans and half cabs.

*And is there some skate/run hybrid shoe that's good for both? That would be a better investment for me. Maybe some thick NB# shoe like the tiago?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on November 01, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzBn9oEOdiw/?img_index=3

can anyone confirm the location of this hubba in clip 3 ? i always heard it was "in bryan herman's backyard" but overthinkingskatevideos says it was actually the owner of Pharmacy skateshop's house which kinda makes more sense. I imagine it was just really close to where Bryan was living or something and thats where that rumour got started. always loved seeing clips of that thing!

Definitely the Pharmacy guys house... but yeah Herman and all those dudes that rode for Pharmacy grew up near there, that's kinda why they rode for the shop
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Post by: moonordie on November 01, 2023, 09:35:25 AM
Are the etnies joslins ok for running? I want to try running and I'm not gonna get super expensive shoes when I might only do it a few times.
Alternatively, all I have are vans rowans and half cabs.

*And is there some skate/run hybrid shoe that's good for both? That would be a better investment for me. Maybe some thick NB# shoe like the tiago?
Dude go to a Nike outlet and get proper running shoes. Running in a skate shoes is as dumb as skating on running shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 01, 2023, 10:00:52 AM
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Are the etnies joslins ok for running? I want to try running and I'm not gonna get super expensive shoes when I might only do it a few times.
Alternatively, all I have are vans rowans and half cabs.

*And is there some skate/run hybrid shoe that's good for both? That would be a better investment for me. Maybe some thick NB# shoe like the tiago?
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Dude go to a Nike outlet and get proper running shoes. Running in a skate shoes is as dumb as skating on running shoes.
It's about trying out, not going all in. Buying running should would be pretty stupid at this point.
Skating in their running shoes wouldn't be dumb either for someone trying out skating for the first time. (Rolling around)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on November 01, 2023, 10:18:58 AM
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Are the etnies joslins ok for running? I want to try running and I'm not gonna get super expensive shoes when I might only do it a few times.
Alternatively, all I have are vans rowans and half cabs.

*And is there some skate/run hybrid shoe that's good for both? That would be a better investment for me. Maybe some thick NB# shoe like the tiago?
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Dude go to a Nike outlet and get proper running shoes. Running in a skate shoes is as dumb as skating on running shoes.
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It's about trying out, not going all in. Buying running should would be pretty stupid at this point.
Skating in their running shoes wouldn't be dumb either for someone trying out skating for the first time. (Rolling around)

I don't think skating in running shoes is dangerous for your feet in the way running in skate shoes could be, though
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 01, 2023, 10:42:28 AM
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Are the etnies joslins ok for running? I want to try running and I'm not gonna get super expensive shoes when I might only do it a few times.
Alternatively, all I have are vans rowans and half cabs.

*And is there some skate/run hybrid shoe that's good for both? That would be a better investment for me. Maybe some thick NB# shoe like the tiago?
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Dude go to a Nike outlet and get proper running shoes. Running in a skate shoes is as dumb as skating on running shoes.
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It's about trying out, not going all in. Buying running should would be pretty stupid at this point.
Skating in their running shoes wouldn't be dumb either for someone trying out skating for the first time. (Rolling around)
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I don't think skating in running shoes is dangerous for your feet in the way running in skate shoes could be, though

i think running is great. running shoes of course are better, but you can run in whatever.
i’ve run in timberlands. not ideal. running, regularly, in improper footwear is asking for injury.
now walking on the other hand….a brisk 1 hour will accomplish much of what you seek. you can walk in whatever. regular walks>running for me, for weight loss, mental health, less impact (which helps me be able to skate), and arguably walking can be better for heart health, vo2 max, and some other stuff. but i’m not a trainer.
this reminds me to walk more, and post here less

skate shoes that i’ve run, purposefully in, just the ave pros, and i recommend.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on November 01, 2023, 10:43:10 AM
I used to play tennis in skate shoes and shit was alright.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on November 01, 2023, 01:34:38 PM
You can absolutely run in skate shoes to see if it's for you. The importance of footwear and its impact on injury risk, or rather mitigation, is wildly overstated when it comes to running. Just make sure whatever shoes you wear are laced up tightly but still feel comfortable — and don't overdo it on your first run. Chances are your stamina is going to be ok if you skate regularly, but your musculoskeletal system won't be used to running and might be overstressed rather quickly. Err on the safe side and cut a run a bit short rather than overexert yourself. Other than that, it's just running. If you're not in it for athletic performance purposes, there's not too much you could do terribly wrong, despite various cottage industries trying to tell you differently.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on November 03, 2023, 10:00:38 AM
Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 04, 2023, 03:46:21 AM
Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
They good if you like flat boards

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 04, 2023, 04:00:19 AM
Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong

nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on November 04, 2023, 06:27:40 AM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner

Thanks for that info! I guess that explains why i haven't seen one in the wild in 10+ years lol. Ill stay away from it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 04, 2023, 07:54:02 AM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner
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Thanks for that info! I guess that explains why i haven't seen one in the wild in 10+ years lol. Ill stay away from it.

i’m not sure this is true, that they suck. some folks that REALLY care about boards enjoy mini logo, the most common reason being that they are flat. which i like.
i haven’t tried a mini logo.
most people seem to judge the quality of a board, by how long it lasts, or maybe that’s just what i hear about. that is not my main concern, or really even in the list. i grew up skating in a time period where concave and manufacturing practices could have a board last 30 minutes of skating. and oh how do i miss stomping thru world decks and learning tricks. and the pop. lovely. now, the current industry fave, bbs, churns out these very concaved swoopy shapes, that i wish would break. but don’t. and then i’ve got some everlasting board that’s not fun. sick. love it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 04, 2023, 08:28:03 AM
The birch ones are appropriately titled : 'mini logo birch skateboard'......

The search feature on this board works pretty well see:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.msg4058693#msg4058693

From the ones i've seen, I'd say they are about 70% as good as a BBS board, this is super subjective but if you like the dimensions and they fit you, and the price, it might be ok for you. 

The woodshop thread is also another good thread to read because you can see who makes what and then hunt around for some deals. 

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 04, 2023, 09:05:35 AM
https://youtu.be/jmB8NwrVD54?si=_VozbLo-RJ12WwY2
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on November 04, 2023, 09:33:31 AM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner

Nah, you are wrong.

Mini Logos boards are the same as Powell's wood boards.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 04, 2023, 09:36:06 AM
https://youtu.be/jmB8NwrVD54?si=_VozbLo-RJ12WwY2


exactly. and i value that persons opinions. significantly.

haven’t gotten one yet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on November 04, 2023, 09:55:44 AM
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exactly. and i value that persons opinions. significantly.

haven’t gotten one yet.


That is the guy who used to run DOA right? He seems to think highly of the decks which make me think they are pretty good. Also i looked on the site and they are all maple, not birch like said above. I normally only skate a deck no longer than 2 months, sometimes 3 just on weekends so im not too worried about a deck lasting "forever"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on November 04, 2023, 10:30:57 AM
It seems a lot of us tend to keep a “beater” complete in the trunk, mainly for having a board to skate at anytime while keeping a main setup in the house to avoid things like warping, frozen or mushy bushings, peeling/ bubbling grip etc.
My question is this: How many of you feel like you skate better on the old beat up neglected setup?
For me if I’m having trouble landing something I’ve been trying for too long I grab the old setup out of the trunk and within a few tries I can usually handle what I’ve been working on and go home happy.

Also to add to the Minilogo discussion, quality was never the issue to me, it was the fact that the decks are just too thick. In hand they’ve always felt like some kind of 9 ply deck and I’ve been disappointed with the performance but not the durability. It’s too bad they no longer come with the SST (Super Slide Treatment) because that would be incredibly fun for skating curbs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 04, 2023, 11:40:46 AM
Had a mini logo model 8.5 (shape# 279?)  back in 2015 and I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It felt like a mix between DLX Full/Full SE & FA shovel nose shape = full, but not squared, concave but not too steep. Lasted me awhile and worked well.

I would guess newer molds have different shapes now, but their boards always seemed like maple and not birch based on their stickers/labeling. Friend of mine (RIP) used to get flowed Mini Logo gear (2015-2019 ish) and was a "Mini Logo Militant"  :-X
Flow program name is weird, but the decks always felt at pro quality level or one notch below. He'd pass excess/used decks around to us homies so we got a chance to try them out. Sometimes they felt cheap but most of their presses must have been standard wood and not cheap shit
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 04, 2023, 12:51:40 PM
Gonz / Krooked seemed to be the first newer company that started putting out bigger boards and shape boards, I want to say that was around like 2004-2005. I feel like that is the time 8" was the most popular size.
I seem to remember a lot of Anti Hero skaters riding bigger boards back in like 2012 kinda like what Brimson was saying
T Funk was already skating a huge 9" looking board 7+ years ago, I feel like it was somewhere around there it started getting really popular to the point every brand offering up to 8.5" and it seemed like 8.25" became the most common size. and then the square noses came shortly after I think.

Flip dropped a DP board in like 1997 that was huge. I wanna say like over 9".

My homie went to Woodward it.

I guess everyone based on him all week. Only his counselor. I think it was Salman might've been Sal cuz I wasn't there it hard for me to remember. They treated him with the a measure of respect and he had fun.

Real recognizing Real obviously.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 04, 2023, 01:39:13 PM
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Gonz / Krooked seemed to be the first newer company that started putting out bigger boards and shape boards, I want to say that was around like 2004-2005. I feel like that is the time 8" was the most popular size.
I seem to remember a lot of Anti Hero skaters riding bigger boards back in like 2012 kinda like what Brimson was saying
T Funk was already skating a huge 9" looking board 7+ years ago, I feel like it was somewhere around there it started getting really popular to the point every brand offering up to 8.5" and it seemed like 8.25" became the most common size. and then the square noses came shortly after I think.
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Flip dropped a DP board in like 1997 that was huge. I wanna say like over 9".

My homie went to Woodward it.

I guess everyone based on him all week. Only his counselor. I think it was Salman might've been Sal cuz I wasn't there it hard for me to remember. They treated him with the a measure of respect and he had fun.

Real recognizing Real obviously.

yeah we teased our one dude, that we all love(d), because he’d ride 8s. he was/is soggy with it. now we all are. anyways, we gave him a hard time, good naturedly, and i think he liked the reputation.
as i’ve mentioned on here before, there was this one local ripper that was super good in our tiny hometown. he was kind of over skating, and would just come out here and there. he’d skate something that i think was closer to 8.5, i’m assuming 149s, and big ass wheels. he could do cab double flips. switch tre’s, all of that in 1997 ish. we did not tease him.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 04, 2023, 04:44:07 PM
anyone favor a longer wb, on a shorter board?

i’ve got this one deck that messes with my ideas of what i thought i liked. G053. i think i like it for the short tail, and relatively short nose.
i think i don’t really like boards great than 32”, that is what used to keep me off of dlx wide boards, they frequently felt long.

more of my dumbass thoughts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 04, 2023, 04:49:33 PM
It seems a lot of us tend to keep a “beater” complete in the trunk, mainly for having a board to skate at anytime while keeping a main setup in the house to avoid things like warping, frozen or mushy bushings, peeling/ bubbling grip etc.
My question is this: How many of you feel like you skate better on the old beat up neglected setup?
For me if I’m having trouble landing something I’ve been trying for too long I grab the old setup out of the trunk and within a few tries I can usually handle what I’ve been working on and go home happy.



Yes for sure!

Having a brand new deck or even more with a complete, I want to just roll around and enjoy it, but no go too hard on it, or just skate it on my own ramp for a while first.

For a used or an old board I don't care about half as much, I can do whatever I want and not have a worry with it, so I am way more likely to skate it better on almost everything with it.

I know back in the day, I only had one setup, barely that sometimes, so I just made do with it, so now it is nice to have options for whatever I want on any given day or session.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on November 05, 2023, 04:52:26 AM
Had a mini logo model 8.5 (shape# 279?)  back in 2015 and I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It felt like a mix between DLX Full/Full SE & FA shovel nose shape = full, but not squared, concave but not too steep. Lasted me awhile and worked well.

I would guess newer molds have different shapes now, but their boards always seemed like maple and not birch based on their stickers/labeling. Friend of mine (RIP) used to get flowed Mini Logo gear (2015-2019 ish) and was a "Mini Logo Militant"  :-X
Flow program name is weird, but the decks always felt at pro quality level or one notch below. He'd pass excess/used decks around to us homies so we got a chance to try them out. Sometimes they felt cheap but most of their presses must have been standard wood and not cheap shit

Every powell non flight deck I've had ended up warped / twisted within a few weeks. Haven't had this happen to any other board I've owned. Must be something about the glue they use
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on November 05, 2023, 01:44:58 PM
when i was 12 i had a plan b board that had all the pros names listed like this

PJ&
Paul&
Ryan&
Torey&
Danny&
Colin

i tried to find it because i want to collect photos of all the decks i’ve had in my life but it’s nowhere to be found. did any of you have this board by any chance and remember how they called the graphic? iirc it was yellow with purple text. 7.875 size probably or 7.75.

edit: i wrote this kinda weird, i only want to find a picture of it, not the deck itself

edit 2: this is the graphic in a t-shirt version, it was the same thing but on a yellow deck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxjVkCxO8E

around 3:50
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on November 06, 2023, 08:14:03 AM
when i was 12 i had a plan b board that had all the pros names listed like this

PJ&
Paul&
Ryan&
Torey&
Danny&
Colin

i tried to find it because i want to collect photos of all the decks i’ve had in my life but it’s nowhere to be found. did any of you have this board by any chance and remember how they called the graphic? iirc it was yellow with purple text. 7.875 size probably or 7.75.

edit: i wrote this kinda weird, i only want to find a picture of it, not the deck itself

edit 2: this is the graphic in a t-shirt version, it was the same thing but on a yellow deck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxjVkCxO8E

around 3:50

so i couldn't track it down and you didn't mention a year specifically (before the video being posted), but i definitely remember those shirts being -everywhere- . not the plan B ones, just anything under the sun got a list shirt like that mall kiosk style
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on November 07, 2023, 03:03:43 AM
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when i was 12 i had a plan b board that had all the pros names listed like this

PJ&
Paul&
Ryan&
Torey&
Danny&
Colin

i tried to find it because i want to collect photos of all the decks i’ve had in my life but it’s nowhere to be found. did any of you have this board by any chance and remember how they called the graphic? iirc it was yellow with purple text. 7.875 size probably or 7.75.

edit: i wrote this kinda weird, i only want to find a picture of it, not the deck itself

edit 2: this is the graphic in a t-shirt version, it was the same thing but on a yellow deck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxjVkCxO8E

around 3:50
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so i couldn't track it down and you didn't mention a year specifically (before the video being posted), but i definitely remember those shirts being -everywhere- . not the plan B ones, just anything under the sun got a list shirt like that mall kiosk style

i had it in 2012 or 2013 but i'm sure it was an older board, i'm guessing 2010 or 2011
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 07, 2023, 03:16:40 AM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner
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Nah, you are wrong.

Mini Logos boards are the same as Powell's wood boards.

the detonators i have in front of me (natural) have a birch label and look thick ( i had a few colored ones a few months ago and same birch label).
Good for the price i guess but don't expect it to last as long as a board twice the price.

we're maybe not talking about the same "blanks"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 07, 2023, 05:02:48 AM
Do the 600 need super glue on the stitching?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 07, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
I bought a mini logo maybe 6 or 7 years ago and it was complete trash. There is no way its the same wood that main line powell boards are using. It went soggy super fast, horrible pop. really garbage boards compared to what they used to be. not worth the money, i have a Primitive board ive been riding for like 1.5 years that has more pop than that thing did when it was new.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on November 07, 2023, 09:47:30 AM
Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 07, 2023, 10:01:00 AM
Do the 600 need super glue on the stitching?

100%. Mine busted all the stitching within 10 ollies, nollies, and kickflips. It is a big flaw of the shoe. I don't expect to bust them within an hour of skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 07, 2023, 10:02:12 AM
Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?

It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 07, 2023, 10:42:28 AM
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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.

Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?"  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 07, 2023, 11:19:26 AM
I started skating switch on my nose because
A) That's how you end up skating when you land a 180 trick, and
B) That's how the pros did it

I really doubt it matters and clearly you will just get used to doing it either way, but now, after ~30 years, when I try to skate switch on my tail, it definitely feels weird.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Suangi on November 07, 2023, 11:38:17 AM
I started skating switch on my nose because
A) That's how you end up skating when you land a 180 trick, and
B) That's how the pros did it

I really doubt it matters and clearly you will just get used to doing it either way, but now, after ~30 years, when I try to skate switch on my tail, it definitely feels weird.

Yeah, for me it's totally a feeling thing. If you think about it, most of the time when doing a trick switch you are kind of (and excuse me for putting this like this) doing a fakie nollie trick. As in, you keep the same body shape and direction that you would for a nollie trick but are going backwards. Now if you move the board around, it will likely work eventually, but just feel 'funny'.

There are stories of pros though trying tricks for hours and then spinning their board round and getting it shortly after. Cannot think of a specific one off the top of my head right now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 07, 2023, 11:39:46 AM
Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
Let's take this further and say skaters on twin tails don't actually skate switch. Twin nose, switch only
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on November 07, 2023, 07:54:13 PM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner
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Nah, you are wrong.

Mini Logos boards are the same as Powell's wood boards.
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the detonators i have in front of me (natural) have a birch label and look thick ( i had a few colored ones a few months ago and same birch label).
Good for the price i guess but don't expect it to last as long as a board twice the price.

we're maybe not talking about the same "blanks"

Interesting. That was not my experience.

Are these recent? Maybe the newest ones are birch?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 07, 2023, 09:17:10 PM
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Do the 600 need super glue on the stitching?
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100%. Mine busted all the stitching within 10 ollies, nollies, and kickflips. It is a big flaw of the shoe. I don't expect to bust them within an hour of skating.
I meant on the upper, not the rubber. I blew out stitches in 5 min on my 480 but never cared since in that kind of shoe is always been like that and never affected performance.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 07, 2023, 09:49:37 PM
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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.
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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?"  ;D

Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 08, 2023, 05:29:18 AM
I actually started skating switch off the tail recently because i figure that is how it is meant to be designed if you think about it... tricks that pop off the tail should be done off the tail right?

i skated switch off the nose before that because i first noticed alex carolino doing it... i i liked the way my trucks felt more whne my board was that way and the faster nose hit etc.  i might actually go back to it but i like how skating switch off the tail balances out the bushings / trucks a bit more. my one friend who is really good said to me it depends what the situation is because if you are doing lines then sometimes you would have to do it off the nose in order for the following regular trick to be done off the tail etc. so i think its not something you should get super hung up on / OCD about

i have a different dumb question... whne would you get new wheels? lol just noticed my 54mm conical fulls are down to 50mm. i am enjoying them still though so i am gonna let em rock for awhile longer, but how small would you guys let your wheels get before getting new ones?

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 08, 2023, 05:37:52 AM
I actually started skating switch off the tail recently because i figure that is how it is meant to be designed if you think about it... tricks that pop off the tail should be done off the tail right?

i skated switch off the nose before that because i first noticed alex carolino doing it... i i liked the way my trucks felt more whne my board was that way and the faster nose hit etc.  i might actually go back to it but i like how skating switch off the tail balances out the bushings / trucks a bit more. my one friend who is really good said to me it depends what the situation is because if you are doing lines then sometimes you would have to do it off the nose in order for the following regular trick to be done off the tail etc. so i think its not something you should get super hung up on / OCD about

i have a different dumb question... whne would you get new wheels? lol just noticed my 54mm conical fulls are down to 50mm. i am enjoying them still though so i am gonna let em rock for awhile longer, but how small would you guys let your wheels get before getting new ones?

Anything under 48mm is what I would say. I usually ride 52's but those still hold up for at least 18 months. Spitfire Conicals F4. I think it depends on how smooth your worn wheels are, when they get smaller. When they have a lot of dents and chunks missing, I would replace them. But does it make more sense to replace new wheels during winter or in the summer? Maybe winter would be better to break new wheels in and then they are ready when spring arrives.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on November 08, 2023, 06:03:41 AM
one one got any good balance board recs? Padding out my christmas list

Looking for something to stand in the office and full around on during rainy days. Possible learn to hold a switch mannies

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(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-xypf89bnb0/images/stencil/1280x1280/attribute_rule_images/736_source_1608318399.jpg)

or are these mostly a waste?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 08, 2023, 06:58:07 AM
I got one as a present and found that it's interesting but doesn't transfer. The fulcrum point changes on it whereas it doesn't on a skateboard. At first you become more aware of using your hips instead of upper body to stabilize and they do seem to make you more aware of subtle weighting but after that it kinda became it's own thing if that makes sense.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 08, 2023, 11:19:12 AM
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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.
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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?"  ;D
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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.

While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 08, 2023, 11:54:32 AM
Anyone know where to get decent argyle socks?

I had some ill wool/hemp ones once. I'd like to get a few pairs.

The mall has only ones that die super fast.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Eric Dolphy on November 08, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.
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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?"  ;D
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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.
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While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.
Just checked my current setup (AH) and the nose definitely pops before the tail. Standing on one kick then the other, the board is at a steeper angle when standing on the tail than the nose.
I’ve also noticed before that I’m more likely to ghost pop nollie-ing off the tail, for this reason.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on November 09, 2023, 05:02:18 AM
Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 09, 2023, 05:36:59 AM
Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?
Deathwish has, I believe that AWS/Habitat also and Primitive should be releasing one soon.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 09, 2023, 09:55:12 AM
If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 09, 2023, 10:45:09 AM
Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 09, 2023, 12:44:28 PM
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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?
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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.
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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?"  ;D
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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.
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While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.
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Just checked my current setup (AH) and the nose definitely pops before the tail. Standing on one kick then the other, the board is at a steeper angle when standing on the tail than the nose.
I’ve also noticed before that I’m more likely to ghost pop nollie-ing off the tail, for this reason.

Odd, my AH deck I skated last night definitely had the nose pop later than the tail. I tested it with nollie fs 180, which for me, rely heavily on the timing of the pop to work as intended.

I personally don't believe that most noses pop faster than tails. That just doesn't make sense since their design (unless shortened/lowered to match the tail ) by default implies they pop later
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on November 09, 2023, 12:47:59 PM
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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong
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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner
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Nah, you are wrong.

Mini Logos boards are the same as Powell's wood boards.
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the detonators i have in front of me (natural) have a birch label and look thick ( i had a few colored ones a few months ago and same birch label).
Good for the price i guess but don't expect it to last as long as a board twice the price.

we're maybe not talking about the same "blanks"
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Interesting. That was not my experience.

Are these recent? Maybe the newest ones are birch?

I got my Mini logo detonator blank in the mail today and there is a 100 percent rock maple sticker on it. Just holding and looking at it, it seems better than i thought itd be. Quality seems pretty good and the shape is nice in my opinion. For 25 bucks seems worth it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 09, 2023, 02:39:23 PM
If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think
always go for the nose on a re-drill
fucking with the tail is an absolute no go
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 09, 2023, 02:51:16 PM
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If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think
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always go for the nose on a re-drill
fucking with the tail is an absolute no go


heard a few folks talk about drilling the tail forward, and that always sounded terrible to me

i skated an april 8.125 x 14 x 31.8 ish. im sure it works for someone, for me it feels bad. the long nose/tail or something just feels wonky. i didn’t give it long enough to adjust to it


why do you want to re-drill? i ask because im currently scheming a big big board 8.75-9 pop, 6.1s or ace classic 55s and giant skateboard tyres. i had one previously and it was sick for hills. fuck it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mystical Leader on November 10, 2023, 12:05:09 AM
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Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?
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type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer

Nice, thank you and moonordie!

Weird that the aws has bigger tail and nose than the welcome one but it says twin tail on the tactics website...

I've had deathwish bloards and I've liked most of them so maybe I'll try one of those.

I'm still wondering why  twin tail is more popular tho. At least for me skating the nose makes the bloard feel quicker and it's easier/better to do slides.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 10, 2023, 12:37:16 AM
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Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?
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type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer
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Nice, thank you and moonordie!

Weird that the aws has bigger tail and nose than the welcome one but it says twin tail on the tactics website...

I've had deathwish bloards and I've liked most of them so maybe I'll try one of those.

I'm still wondering why  twin tail is more popular tho. At least for me skating the nose makes the bloard feel quicker and it's easier/better to do slides.
You're welcome.
Maybe you'd like G69 and G96  (8.25 & 8.5) from Crailtap. Those are "twin paddles" which is intended to be a nose/tail hybrid.
Is a great shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on November 10, 2023, 05:47:52 AM
If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think

The board razortails faster than a normal board. I’ve had a couple. I love them (except for the WB)

I say ride it at 15 until it razors, sand it down, and then redrill it shorter for the longest board life
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 10, 2023, 07:10:57 AM
If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 10, 2023, 09:42:11 AM
Thanks pals.

Yeah I agree drilling the tail is a bad idea.

Im just ordering another 8.25 to 8.5 again.
Planning on moving up after new years.

It's cuz I got two pairs of 8.25 trucks I just found on ice.

Being we just dropped a several thousand on the album I can't justify bloard trucks and wheels.

Im pretty desperate to get off the 93a wheel. I gotta chose a wheel asap.

Xmas I'll buy trucks then new years I'll get a short stack of flights.

Also I kinda want that Truck beam by Sci Fi. It's so silly I gotta have it.

If it was just the beam and no trucks I'd have already copped. I seen the trucks on it and was like Lame! Why didn't they just leave the center beam reacting to your own trucks.

But I can't stop thinking about it. It's cute
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on November 10, 2023, 10:55:59 AM
Apologies if you've already had one, but if you're looking at Flights, try one before you buy more.

I'm on one now, and it's a great board, but- expensive, razors faster, hurts more when it hits you, the heads of the hardware stick up- because of the carbon layer, and small chips suck because the top carbon layer peels with em...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on November 10, 2023, 11:29:40 AM
Apologies if you've already had one, but if you're looking at Flights, try one before you buy more.

I'm on one now, and it's a great board, but- expensive, razors faster, hurts more when it hits you, the heads of the hardware stick up- because of the carbon layer, and small chips suck because the top carbon layer peels with em...

Lmao, not even 10 minutes after posting this, I chip the tail exactly as described. Oh well, got a good run out of this board at least!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on November 10, 2023, 01:06:41 PM
If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.
For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on November 10, 2023, 02:29:08 PM
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If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.
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For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
Put the drill down and get yourself a ratcheting screwdriver. Sink them in by hand and with the tape they are pretty damn permanent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on November 10, 2023, 02:59:25 PM
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If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.
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For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
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Put the drill down and get yourself a ratcheting screwdriver. Sink them in by hand and with the tape they are pretty damn permanent.
100% agree: if you’re using a drill for anything beyond a lickle pilot hole, you’re gonna run the risk of blowing it by stripping the wood out.
Always install the screws by hand if you’re the sort who cares, or takes pride in a job done well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 10, 2023, 03:28:08 PM
lol i did a set of rails by hand with this tiny screwdriver and i hated myself afterwards!!! my hands were killing! you have to press so freaking hard.

i used a drill and it was really easy but i didnt do it on brand new boards

i used the ratcheting screwdriver on another one and it was pretty manageable - that seems to me like the best way to do it

i think it is the kind of thing you sort of need to keep tightening over time and also you might get to a point like i have where one of the screws gets so grinded down you cant get it out again. so the rail is permanently stuck in there (and possibly loose)

so they dont last forever

lol if that 1 screw was ok i think these rails could be transferred to another board. debating drilling out the screw and then putting them in with 3 screws on the new board / try and find replacement screw
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 10, 2023, 04:02:13 PM
I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 10, 2023, 06:01:55 PM
rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on November 10, 2023, 06:24:51 PM
Super juices, with those SKF bearings that come greased to hell, and any old deck you are almost done with... 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on November 10, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter

whatever the girl in the crow had
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 10, 2023, 06:39:26 PM
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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter
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whatever the girl in the crow had

‘….more like surfin’
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 10, 2023, 07:11:30 PM
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one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?
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Bought a new unskated deck but it was gripped and I always do my scrap crap grip jobs. If I don’t it’s not my board.
@Mbrimson88 yeah, if I was going full grip it wouldn’t be an issue but there’s going to be lots of cuts so it’d just grab dirt and look like crap after a second of riding.

I’ve heard Ronson lighter fluid(liquid kind for zippos) can work on sticker residue but was hoping to hear from someone else that may have used it. If worse comes to worse I can just try an eraser wheel on it. I mean it works on cars for removing stickers, vinyl stripes, and double back tape but I’m worried it may burn the wood since it’s such a big area.
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Yes those in between areas end up a big mess.  Even when people don't peel off the warning sticker fully and the sticker residue leaves a mess in between racing stripes or similar, it looks messy.

I often pick up boards from others that are sometimes brand new, great deck, terrible grip job or just grip in a brand / colour / graphic or some weird thing on the grip that means the grip has to go, so off it comes and there is no way I can get a lot of whatever is still stuck to the board off, especially with Shake Junt grip, so although I still use pieces to give lines, I have zero gaps whatsoever on those boards.

That might be an option, although it can be a pain if you are cutting things up and like gaps between them.


Also totally get it when you say, if you haven't gripped it how you usually do, it is not your board - even having lines in different areas to where I often do makes a board weird to ride, like it is someone else's board and not my own.


Good luck with the process and I am sure as others have said, it would be interesting to hear / see results.

Got around to messing with this the other day. Goo Gone works great but it does leave an oily residue. Got rid of that with some wax and grease remover(a few good cleanings with windex and clean rags SHOULD work also). Took less than 5 minutes for everything.
If you go that route and use windex to get rid of the oil, try testing it on an old board with a scrap of grip to make sure it’ll stick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 06:08:20 AM
i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 11, 2023, 06:30:57 AM
i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...

i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
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Post by: goodatmeth on November 11, 2023, 09:58:43 AM
I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.

Update: Held up perfectly. Don't screw around with screws. More rail skating tomorrow
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Creachteach on November 11, 2023, 10:35:40 AM
Someone please tell me about and show me your Zero boards.
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 11:10:03 AM
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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
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i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am

i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 11, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
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i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
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i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
Mini logo 90a or 95a wheels are great and even cheaper.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 11, 2023, 04:32:59 PM
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one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?
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Good luck with the process and I am sure as others have said, it would be interesting to hear / see results.
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Got around to messing with this the other day. Goo Gone works great but it does leave an oily residue. Got rid of that with some wax and grease remover(a few good cleanings with windex and clean rags SHOULD work also). Took less than 5 minutes for everything.
If you go that route and use windex to get rid of the oil, try testing it on an old board with a scrap of grip to make sure it’ll stick.


Glad to hear it worked.

I know others who have ended up with grip constantly peeling / never sticking down well, so this is a good fix.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 12, 2023, 10:22:00 AM
to those wearing pants 2-4+ sizes too wide
how are they staying on you
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 12, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
to those wearing pants 2-4+ sizes too wide
how are they staying on you
With my sweet Volcom belt
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on November 12, 2023, 10:53:37 AM
to those wearing pants 2-4+ sizes too wide
how are they staying on you

1.from the inside of the pants, open up the waistband on either side of the zipper, about .5" using a seam ripper.

2.attach a bobby pin to the end of a shoelace, thread the shoelace through the waist band, goin in one of the holes you made and out the other (so that you end up with a shoelace belt on the inside of the waistband).

3.with a needle and thread, stitch one of the openings you made closed, making sure to stitch the shoelace as well.

4.adjust the waist of the pants to your size with the shoelace, then stitch the other side closed.

5. cut off the excess shoelace at both ends and burn the tips with a lighter so they won't fray.

6. go kill your pants so you can get new ones.

(https://i0.wp.com/textilelearner.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Different-Components-of-a-Basic-Pant.png?fit=564%2C556&ssl=1)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 12, 2023, 05:58:29 PM
what should one wear, if they like the look and feel
of half-cabs and old schools, but are near crippled by skating in them? 
silly question i know. bought some nice asics but they look too good to skate in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 12, 2023, 10:51:38 PM
Is C1rca still a thing? I've seen atleast three pairs in the wild lately and wondered what the fuck is going on. To be fair, all were pretty much new skaters.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 12, 2023, 11:22:49 PM
Is C1rca still a thing? I've seen atleast three pairs in the wild lately and wondered what the fuck is going on. To be fair, all were pretty much new skaters.
I think they got the "Fallen treatment"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on November 13, 2023, 12:09:13 AM
to those wearing pants 2-4+ sizes too wide
how are they staying on you

Cut two vertical slits on the inside of the waistband near the front button.

With a seam ripper or exacto knife remove any patches on the waistband that prevent a shoelace/cord from being threaded through.

Using a safety pin or tying shoelace/cord to something somewhat thin and long, thread it through the waistband and boom, you have a drawstring.

If you like the pants and plan on keeping them fit a while, finish off the edges of your vertical cuts with a needle and thread.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on November 13, 2023, 03:30:22 AM
rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter

Appreciate you asking this as I have been thinking just the same thing lately and was going to ask a similar question.

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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
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i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
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i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
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Mini logo 90a or 95a wheels are great and even cheaper.

Solid advice all round, I'm lucky that I have a selection of spare barely used 56mm wheel sets to choose from for my rain board build (Pig 101a, Rough Riders 80a and Mini-Logo 95a). Of those three I was leaning towards the Mini-Logo 95a to try out first as they seem just forgiving/firm enough to (hopefully) cope with the damp ground and not slide out too much. Happy they've been mentioned:)
I've always thought that 78/80a wheels in general would be really slippy in the rain? Is it more to do with the ones mentioned like Super Juices having a wide riding surface?
My plan is to just use my rain board for pushing around when its crappy outside and not really attempting any tricks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 13, 2023, 03:51:56 AM
to those wearing pants 2-4+ sizes too wide
how are they staying on you





Yeah that thread the shoe lace through the inside of the supersized pants was our go to back in the day, never quite so careful as you two with how we did it though.

Poke or cut a hole in each side of the button on the inside, feed a shoe lace usually put through something like a pen shell through the pants and then tie up with the excess inside, so there were no loose ends, wear until they fell apart, but usually they were already cheap or thrift shop pants anyway.


Nowdays I like the comfort of a clamp belt, which I can easily adjust to exactly how I want it and don't recall I have had any issues, but I know other people will not skate with a belt after falling on it.  It depends on how many belt loops there are too, as some pants just don't have enough, or in the right areas, which can suck / where the shoe lace inside the belt line really comes into its own for comfort and durability.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 13, 2023, 06:19:54 AM
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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter
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Appreciate you asking this as I have been thinking just the same thing lately and was going to ask a similar question.

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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
[close]

i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
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i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
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Mini logo 90a or 95a wheels are great and even cheaper.
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Solid advice all round, I'm lucky that I have a selection of spare barely used 56mm wheel sets to choose from for my rain board build (Pig 101a, Rough Riders 80a and Mini-Logo 95a). Of those three I was leaning towards the Mini-Logo 95a to try out first as they seem just forgiving/firm enough to (hopefully) cope with the damp ground and not slide out too much. Happy they've been mentioned:)
I've always thought that 78/80a wheels in general would be really slippy in the rain? Is it more to do with the ones mentioned like Super Juices having a wide riding surface?
My plan is to just use my rain board for pushing around when its crappy outside and not really attempting any tricks.

i’m of the same mind: more pushing and hills. rough riders were great for me, but i never took them down anything
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on November 13, 2023, 12:01:41 PM
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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter
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Appreciate you asking this as I have been thinking just the same thing lately and was going to ask a similar question.

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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
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i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
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i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
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Mini logo 90a or 95a wheels are great and even cheaper.
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Solid advice all round, I'm lucky that I have a selection of spare barely used 56mm wheel sets to choose from for my rain board build (Pig 101a, Rough Riders 80a and Mini-Logo 95a). Of those three I was leaning towards the Mini-Logo 95a to try out first as they seem just forgiving/firm enough to (hopefully) cope with the damp ground and not slide out too much. Happy they've been mentioned:)
I've always thought that 78/80a wheels in general would be really slippy in the rain? Is it more to do with the ones mentioned like Super Juices having a wide riding surface?
My plan is to just use my rain board for pushing around when its crappy outside and not really attempting any tricks.
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i’m of the same mind: more pushing and hills. rough riders were great for me, but i never took them down anything

Good stuff, I'd love to see some more rain setups for inspiration, maybe you could show yours in the set-up thread when its all done? I plan to upload a picture of mine when I've thrown it all together in a couple of days time. Going to keep it very basic/bland but functional for me, same wheelbase and truck size/type as my main board etc.
The reality is at this time of year where I live its more or less always damp out on the streets (when I can actually go skating that is, so in the very late evenings and super early) so sorting out a board that can be used then is a must. I'm finding it way too easy to just stay in and not go out again after work so want a board that is ready to go anytime :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 13, 2023, 12:41:53 PM
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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter
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Appreciate you asking this as I have been thinking just the same thing lately and was going to ask a similar question.

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i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...
[close]

i like this snow skate idea for grip.

i appreciate any ideas on this one, the cold, wet, dark rainy season is not my best time.
my concern with the super juices is that they will fall apart really quickly with the super rough roads where i am
[close]

i personally would not drop $55 canadian on Super Juices and then use them on a rain deck either tbh.

If you have to get a new wheel for it, get Ricta Clouds. they are always on sale for super cheap ($30 canadian). they make 2 duros im pretty sure 78a and 93a... so you have the same problem with them shredding possible on the 78a but they are at least more of a current shape so they would be a bit more conduscive for street skating. the 93a would probably work fine and again much cheaper then getting dragons or whatever. if you can find something in the 80 duros for cheap it could be worth a try but there arent a ton of optiosn and most of the ones i have tried like rat bones would still chip as they have that old school shape.
[close]
Mini logo 90a or 95a wheels are great and even cheaper.
[close]

Solid advice all round, I'm lucky that I have a selection of spare barely used 56mm wheel sets to choose from for my rain board build (Pig 101a, Rough Riders 80a and Mini-Logo 95a). Of those three I was leaning towards the Mini-Logo 95a to try out first as they seem just forgiving/firm enough to (hopefully) cope with the damp ground and not slide out too much. Happy they've been mentioned:)
I've always thought that 78/80a wheels in general would be really slippy in the rain? Is it more to do with the ones mentioned like Super Juices having a wide riding surface?
My plan is to just use my rain board for pushing around when its crappy outside and not really attempting any tricks.
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i’m of the same mind: more pushing and hills. rough riders were great for me, but i never took them down anything
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Good stuff, I'd love to see some more rain setups for inspiration, maybe you could show yours in the set-up thread when its all done? I plan to upload a picture of mine when I've thrown it all together in a couple of days time. Going to keep it very basic/bland but functional for me, same wheelbase and truck size/type as my main board etc.
The reality is at this time of year where I live its more or less always damp out on the streets (when I can actually go skating that is, so in the very late evenings and super early) so sorting out a board that can be used then is a must. I'm finding it way too easy to just stay in and not go out again after work so want a board that is ready to go anytime :)

i just skated my best board on a damp day, got plenty of moss and duck crap all over it.
‘twas a good exercise in not being so dainty with my skateboard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 13, 2023, 02:34:06 PM
I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.

Last time I did rails, I just used double sided tape and it lasted for the life of the board and proved difficult to remove when I finally took them off. Screws are belt-and-suspenders when you’re using strong tape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 13, 2023, 02:38:47 PM
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I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.
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Last time I did rails, I just used double sided tape and it lasted for the life of the board and proved difficult to remove when I finally took them off. Screws are belt-and-suspenders when you’re using strong tape.
Hell yeah. My second day of mainly flatbar skating without screws was successful as well.
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Post by: manysnakes on November 13, 2023, 02:40:16 PM
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I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.
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Last time I did rails, I just used double sided tape and it lasted for the life of the board and proved difficult to remove when I finally took them off. Screws are belt-and-suspenders when you’re using strong tape.
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Hell yeah. My second day of mainly flatbar skating without screws was successful as well.

I made sure to press them on really well. I might have even used some clamps to set them, but this was at least four years ago so I really don’t remember. I did remove the rails earlier this year and it required a heat gun.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on November 13, 2023, 06:47:44 PM
thanks for the advice with the shoelace waistband
will try on the next set of pants but im deciding the sizing

im currently between 32-34” waist
do i go up to 38” waist or go stupid with 40”?
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Post by: Kaydubbb on November 13, 2023, 07:18:44 PM
Been trying to find my perfect deck lately, but I don't get much chance to pop into a shop and looks at boards. Looking for something with a mellow concave and kicks and also a long tail closer to 7" in length, somewhere around the 14.5 wheelbase and 8.38 width, in a band aid shape. Don't care about total length nose too much. Problem is when I look at boards online sometimes the dimensions don't line up with the total length listed. I add up the nose, wheelbase and tail length and then add in 4.25" to account for space between the bolts and half the time it's over or under the total listed length of the deck. I assume this is due to certain manufacturers measuring pre or post press but it makes it hard to pick a board to try. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2023, 11:20:43 PM
DLX or Baker 8.38 is right about those dimensions.
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Post by: Ok on November 14, 2023, 06:01:56 AM
DLX or Baker 8.38 is right about those dimensions.


isn’t the tail 6.5 ish on the dlx?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: geezer on November 14, 2023, 10:49:28 AM
what should one wear, if they like the look and feel
of half-cabs and old schools, but are near crippled by skating in them? 
silly question i know. bought some nice asics but they look too good to skate in.
I'd go with old schools just for the fact that I don't want any of my money going to Cab. See "lame instagram posts by pros" thread  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 14, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
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what should one wear, if they like the look and feel
of half-cabs and old schools, but are near crippled by skating in them? 
silly question i know. bought some nice asics but they look too good to skate in.
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I'd go with old schools just for the fact that I don't want any of my money going to Cab. See "lame instagram posts by pros" thread  ;D

not wrong. i’ve never thought of it as his shoe. milton, puleo, carroll, mullendore, stone, quim, etc etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on November 14, 2023, 05:38:11 PM
Yo is anyone clued into Spitfire's new Burner wheels? Are they just rebranded bigheads or are they like the secret third thing Spitfire are doing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on November 14, 2023, 06:11:20 PM
Looks like its just an entry level/ price point/ no frills wheel.

You have F4, Classic Formula and Burners. As they get cheaper I think its safe to assume the quality and performance goes down.

I doubt they offer anything exciting if you are already aquatinted with F4s. On the plus side they look very white for those of you that need as white a wheel as possible. Prob decent enough for a budget set up.
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Post by: Lou Strux on November 14, 2023, 07:12:16 PM
Looks like it’s just an entry level/ price point/ no frills wheel.
This is essentially correct.
Reckon there’s a whole lot of market share in 1st time purchases, and cost is usually a factor in those buyers equations.  They haven’t really offered a cheap (lower cost, lower spec) wheel until now because the core market has bouyed them for lo, these last 35 years. 
But every player knows that there’s truth in the words of the Wu: you gotta diversify your bonds, son!
They won’t leave good money on the table when they possess the capacity to meet that need.
Nevermind the fact that they can establish lifelong brand loyalties by being a skaters 1st set of wheels, rather than, say, if they were to buy those Bones cheapies. 
Smart move. 
But for those wondering if they’ve just unlocked a secret code to coming up on some high-end Spits on the cheap… nah.  This ain’t that.
Spitfire is (now) for the children (too.)
Again w/ the Wu.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mstuntbless on November 14, 2023, 07:45:26 PM
I have had 5 pair of converse PL vulcs in a row. Just got another pair and I swear they are a half size bigger. Has anyone ever experienced this?!?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 14, 2023, 08:49:57 PM
anyone skated the limosine 9”?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on November 15, 2023, 02:07:37 AM
Why do more 'techy' or durable cupsoles not come with tongue-centering straps per default? For example, the new NB600 as well as the Maranas come without. Is it lower production costs or simply the preference of the respective pro?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 15, 2023, 04:38:38 AM
Sorry pals, but I need your advice.

I got some Half Cab's and don't know which size I am anymore in shoes. My left foot is a tiny bit longer as my right one. My biggest toe ends where the thumb is. I don't know if that is enough space or if I should go up half a size. If I go up half a size, the right shoe feels a tad too big, but maybe I am just not used to that feeling. I always wore a 7.5 US in all the shoes I had. The 7.5 fits a bit snug, which I always preferred. I can feel the plastic inserts on both heels but the toes on both feet have a bit of wiggle room. The US 8 feels a bit long and roomy on the right foot.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjMYh8dt/20231115-132109.jpg)

That's how the foot sits on the insole.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VYvs2wht/20231115-132215.jpg)

Both photos were taken around 1 pm while I stood up with all my weight. Any help would really be appreciated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 15, 2023, 05:19:04 AM
Sorry pals, but I need your advice.

I got some Half Cab's and don't know which size I am anymore in shoes. My left foot is a tiny bit longer as my right one. My biggest toe ends where the thumb is. I don't know if that is enough space or if I should go up half a size. If I go up half a size, the right shoe feels a tad too big, but maybe I am just not used to that feeling. I always wore a 7.5 US in all the shoes I had. The 7.5 fits a bit snug, which I always preferred. I can feel the plastic inserts on both heels but the toes on both feet have a bit of wiggle room. The US 8 feels a bit long and roomy on the right foot.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjMYh8dt/20231115-132109.jpg)

That's how the foot sits on the insole.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VYvs2wht/20231115-132215.jpg)

Both photos were taken around 1 pm while I stood up with all my weight. Any help would really be appreciated.
Quit skating Vans and problem will be solved. Brand is not what it used to be.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 05:33:17 AM
After skating for almost a year in NBs I tried on Half Cabs for the first time in a long while. They felt like shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Thebird on November 15, 2023, 05:39:11 AM
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Sorry pals, but I need your advice.

I got some Half Cab's and don't know which size I am anymore in shoes. My left foot is a tiny bit longer as my right one. My biggest toe ends where the thumb is. I don't know if that is enough space or if I should go up half a size. If I go up half a size, the right shoe feels a tad too big, but maybe I am just not used to that feeling. I always wore a 7.5 US in all the shoes I had. The 7.5 fits a bit snug, which I always preferred. I can feel the plastic inserts on both heels but the toes on both feet have a bit of wiggle room. The US 8 feels a bit long and roomy on the right foot.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjMYh8dt/20231115-132109.jpg)

That's how the foot sits on the insole.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VYvs2wht/20231115-132215.jpg)

Both photos were taken around 1 pm while I stood up with all my weight. Any help would really be appreciated.
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Quit skating Vans and problem will be solved. Brand is not what it used to be.

Yep, try on some different brands/different models.  You'll find something that fits your particular foot better.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 15, 2023, 05:40:25 AM
Except for the 808 and 600 I tried every NB# model in various sizes. These shoes just doesn't seem to fit my foot type. Most are too narrow at the midfoot or at the heels.
The NB# 306 was the only model that seemed to fit me well, but I didn't like the floppy feel near the toes because of that cut out toe wave thing on top of the shoe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Thebird on November 15, 2023, 06:06:08 AM
Except for the 808 and 600 I tried every NB# model in various sizes. These shoes just doesn't seem to fit my foot type. Most are too narrow at the midfoot or at the heels.
The NB# 306 was the only model that seemed to fit me well, but I didn't like the floppy feel near the toes because of that cut out toe wave thing on top of the shoe.

Not sure if you are opposed to this, but you may want to try something soletech.  It seems like they have models that fit people who have fit issues with other brands.  KSL g6 would be my pick - roomy throughout.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 15, 2023, 06:30:47 AM
I don't want to try the KSL. When I really love them, the shoe will be discontinued. These Half Cab's won't work for my foot shape. Maybe I try some 306 again in a few weeks. Or anyone might have recommendations for a wide, round cupsole toe box?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 15, 2023, 07:04:25 AM
I liked the Busenitz and i have pretty wide toes
i had 3x pair of the 306 i just find they dont last and they are hard to find under $90 where I can find Vans, Cons, Nikes even for like $55
I just got GT Blazers for $55 (old ones not the new ones, lows with camo) and they feel absolutely amazing on my feet
I am trying Asics JAPAN S next
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 15, 2023, 07:12:04 AM
here’s the thing tho: your half cabs look better than the other shoes mentioned.
i am still continuing to harm my feet by skating in some 92 uprise vans, because they look nice from the top.
the fit on my half cabs is weird: toe box feels great, nice and wide, but i can almost lose the whole shoe, when pushing. i’ve got wide metatarsal’s, narrow heels. the narrow heel thing always had me going for nikes, and dunks fit the best probably, but i’m just tired of looking at them.

i’ve probably chastised you before: but wear your shoes bigger, rather than smaller. or fuck up your feet. you can ease into it by wearing thicker socks . just get used to swimming. (this is just an opinion, probably not even a good one).

i don’t know what vans is doing but they need to get their shit together.
this is making me want to try cons and i do not remember how the one stars ctas 70s are sized and now i gotta drive somewhere and try on everything.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 15, 2023, 07:35:41 AM
here’s the thing tho: your half cabs look better than the other shoes mentioned.
i am still continuing to harm my feet by skating in some 92 uprise vans, because they look nice from the top.
the fit on my half cabs is weird: toe box feels great, nice and wide, but i can almost lose the whole shoe, when pushing. i’ve got wide metatarsal’s, narrow heels. the narrow heel thing always had me going for nikes, and dunks fit the best probably, but i’m just tired of looking at them.

i’ve probably chastised you before: but wear your shoes bigger, rather than smaller. or fuck up your feet. you can ease into it by wearing thicker socks . just get used to swimming. (this is just an opinion, probably not even a good one).

i don’t know what vans is doing but they need to get their shit together.
this is making me want to try cons and i do not remember how the one stars ctas 70s are sized and now i gotta drive somewhere and try on everything.

https://www.zumiez.ca/converse-one-star-pro-black-gum-cordura-skate-shoes.html

I just got these and I actually really like them. They look narrow but they dont feel terrible narrow. the tyshawns felt more narrow. there are a few points where i feel like they can pinch your feet a tiny bit (for some reason my pinky toe pinched when i did a blunt fakie), but its mostly a non issue. they feel a little hard, so like if you jump off something and your toes slam into the end it can hurt a bit. i would definitely buy these again. they are lasting realllly well too.

i could definitely buy half cabs again, I am trying not to be too particular about shoes I think I have a pretty good sense now of what I like and dont like, and at this point im really just shopping around for deals. It does kind of put me off a bit knowing a certain model wont exist next year so I am leaning towards models I have seen in print for a long time as part of my quest. theres at least 1 model under ever brand i like at this point. I just cant get deals on NB# like i have been able to other stuff but i definitely love their shoes. 

i just wear size 11 for everything. i was wearing size 10.5 for a long time and that probably contributed to my toe problem (bone growth). i have never had to size down anything. i thought my feet were done growing when i was 18 i guess but i never went to the mall and actually measured on one of those things proper til i was like 27 and realized i was an 11.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on November 15, 2023, 09:03:37 AM
I don't want to try the KSL. When I really love them, the shoe will be discontinued. These Half Cab's won't work for my foot shape. Maybe I try some 306 again in a few weeks. Or anyone might have recommendations for a wide, round cupsole toe box?

Marana could work for you
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 15, 2023, 09:18:12 AM
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Apologies if you've already had one, but if you're looking at Flights, try one before you buy more.

I'm on one now, and it's a great board, but- expensive, razors faster, hurts more when it hits you, the heads of the hardware stick up- because of the carbon layer, and small chips suck because the top carbon layer peels with em...
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Lmao, not even 10 minutes after posting this, I chip the tail exactly as described. Oh well, got a good run out of this board at least!

Bloards chipping is my pet peeve.

Im definitely trying one tho.

I need to know what it's like.

I hear they lighter.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 15, 2023, 09:42:35 AM
I don't want to try the KSL. When I really love them, the shoe will be discontinued. These Half Cab's won't work for my foot shape. Maybe I try some 306 again in a few weeks. Or anyone might have recommendations for a wide, round cupsole toe box?
Hear me out

Adidas Forums
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 15, 2023, 01:04:22 PM
has anyone skated a limosine board (specifically the 9”)?

does all of the arty things detract from the boards performance?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 16, 2023, 06:41:13 AM
has anyone ever seen people cut these little zig zags into round rails? im assuming this is to give it a bit more friction so you dont slide out as easily / better lock in?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpAFVdS1YR/?img_index=1
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on November 16, 2023, 07:10:33 AM
has anyone ever seen people cut these little zig zags into round rails? im assuming this is to give it a bit more friction so you dont slide out as easily / better lock in?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpAFVdS1YR/?img_index=1

Pretty sure people just like that it goes brrrrrrrrrr when you grind it, and gives a little grind feedback.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 16, 2023, 08:21:57 PM
has anyone skated a limosine board (specifically the 9”)?

does all of the arty things detract from the boards performance?


I had not actually looked, but it seems they do go above and beyond with cool stuff, even the specific ply colours, some of those boards being all coloured ply layers, some slick, some just graphic with pearl overlay, etc.

Going by that, besides having a slick bottom on one, I don't think the rest of the other things would make any difference to skating it but it might be a little more slidey with some things, then very slidey with the slick bottom.


Also having all their dimensions on their side is a plus and that 9.0 x 33.25 with 14.8 wb is a different one too, unless they just measured the inside edge of the holes for the slightly shorter wheelbase.


https://limosineskateboards.com/


https://limosineskateboards.com/products/copy-of-snake-pit-slick-bottom


Digital Print With Negative Opacities To Reveal Black Wood Grain In Upper Image(Trees) With Pearl Coat Over Bottom Image (Water)

VENEERS 2-6 DYED GREEN , TOP PLY ESPRESSO

Available in:

 

8.38" x 31.89"

14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.25"
14.40" Wheelbase

9.0" x 33.25"
14.8" Wheelbase


(https://limosineskateboards.com/cdn/shop/files/loreth_top_detail_1100x.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2023, 09:10:41 PM
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has anyone skated a limosine board (specifically the 9”)?

does all of the arty things detract from the boards performance?
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I had not actually looked, but it seems they do go above and beyond with cool stuff, even the specific ply colours, some of those boards being all coloured ply layers, some slick, some just graphic with pearl overlay, etc.

Going by that, besides having a slick bottom on one, I don't think the rest of the other things would make any difference to skating it but it might be a little more slidey with some things, then very slidey with the slick bottom.


Also having all their dimensions on their side is a plus and that 9.0 x 33.25 with 14.8 wb is a different one too, unless they just measured the inside edge of the holes for the slightly shorter wheelbase.


https://limosineskateboards.com/


https://limosineskateboards.com/products/copy-of-snake-pit-slick-bottom


Digital Print With Negative Opacities To Reveal Black Wood Grain In Upper Image(Trees) With Pearl Coat Over Bottom Image (Water)

VENEERS 2-6 DYED GREEN , TOP PLY ESPRESSO

Available in:

 

8.38" x 31.89"

14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.25"
14.40" Wheelbase

9.0" x 33.25"
14.8" Wheelbase


(https://limosineskateboards.com/cdn/shop/files/loreth_top_detail_1100x.jpg)

ah, cuz otherwise it’s just the orange eagle, eh?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on November 16, 2023, 09:42:04 PM
has anyone ever seen people cut these little zig zags into round rails? im assuming this is to give it a bit more friction so you dont slide out as easily / better lock in?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpAFVdS1YR/?img_index=1

Less friction so it grinds consistent w/o wax

I think they invented it https://www.diamondgrindcoping.com/
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on November 17, 2023, 12:08:40 AM
Sorry pals, but I need your advice.

I got some Half Cab's and don't know which size I am anymore in shoes. My left foot is a tiny bit longer as my right one. My biggest toe ends where the thumb is. I don't know if that is enough space or if I should go up half a size. If I go up half a size, the right shoe feels a tad too big, but maybe I am just not used to that feeling. I always wore a 7.5 US in all the shoes I had. The 7.5 fits a bit snug, which I always preferred. I can feel the plastic inserts on both heels but the toes on both feet have a bit of wiggle room. The US 8 feels a bit long and roomy on the right foot.


That's how the foot sits on the insole.

Both photos were taken around 1 pm while I stood up with all my weight. Any help would really be appreciated.

I definitely think its the width of the toe box.
I have this same issue with skate shoes and hockey skates, if its too narrow through the forefoot or toes then it makes you want to size up. If you get a shoe with more width up there, you'll be able to wear your true size and probably skate better overall.

Like was mentioned above the 306s are good for a vulc option. They do flop out but imo hold form longer than half cabs.
If you're willing to try a cup, the Tyshawn lows are a really good semi-wide forefoot shoe. Avoid the originals tho 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 17, 2023, 03:08:53 AM
I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on November 17, 2023, 03:39:09 AM
I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.

afaik gear heads are pretty sure they're Reds, just with different shields.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 17, 2023, 05:39:04 AM
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I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.
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afaik gear heads are pretty sure they're Reds, just with different shields.

Mini Logos are noticeably different from Reds in that they have two shields, where Reds have one and the bearing retainer is sealed and visible in the rear. They appear to be totally different bearings, but in my personal experience, they're as good as Reds or other budget bearings.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: backside_frontside on November 17, 2023, 08:18:31 AM
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has anyone ever seen people cut these little zig zags into round rails? im assuming this is to give it a bit more friction so you dont slide out as easily / better lock in?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpAFVdS1YR/?img_index=1
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Less friction so it grinds consistent w/o wax

I think they invented it https://www.diamondgrindcoping.com/

as if that thing wasn't easy enough to grind already, we're really putting hash marks on round rails to make it easier. skateboarding really is getting soft
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 18, 2023, 01:17:33 AM
Am I a baby or do deck rails make your board feel heavy as fuuuck? Both? Feel like I can only ollie 70% as high as normal. (Same setup)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on November 18, 2023, 03:21:29 AM
Am I a baby or do deck rails make your board feel heavy as fuuuck? Both? Feel like I can only ollie 70% as high as normal. (Same setup)
Option B.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on November 18, 2023, 04:41:50 AM
If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think
Did you ever watch prof Schmitt talk about skateboard setups? It really helped with trying to perfect a setup.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on November 18, 2023, 04:45:51 AM
I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.
Mini logos are the shit. The rubber shield comes off easy for cleaning. They roll decent, but Swiss is noticeably much faster.

I’ve had one or two break on me, but what cheap bearing doesn’t? For $10 they can’t be beat. ($10? It’s been a while… I’m on Swiss for last four years.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lildonut92 on November 19, 2023, 07:26:23 AM
I know that Vincent Touzery was on venture for a min. But I’ve seen recent clips/photos that look like Indy’s or Aces. Anyone with the insider info?

I’m not one to usually analyze other peoples setups as I usually over-analyze my own. But I’m curious.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 19, 2023, 08:54:37 AM
I know that Vincent Touzery was on venture for a min. But I’ve seen recent clips/photos that look like Indy’s or Aces. Anyone with the insider info?

I’m not one to usually analyze other peoples setups as I usually over-analyze my own. But I’m curious.


few subjects interest me more, than what so and so pro is riding.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 19, 2023, 10:51:14 AM
I know that Vincent Touzery was on venture for a min. But I’ve seen recent clips/photos that look like Indy’s or Aces. Anyone with the insider info?

I’m not one to usually analyze other peoples setups as I usually over-analyze my own. But I’m curious.

Lucas Puig was on Indys for a few clips too, now back on Thunders. Maybe its just a distribution thing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 19, 2023, 04:28:45 PM
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I know that Vincent Touzery was on venture for a min. But I’ve seen recent clips/photos that look like Indy’s or Aces. Anyone with the insider info?

I’m not one to usually analyze other peoples setups as I usually over-analyze my own. But I’m curious.
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Lucas Puig was on Indys for a few clips too, now back on Thunders. Maybe its just a distribution thing?

lucas was one of the few pros that i remember switching trucks here and there (indys and thunders), and was doing this before palace days
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on November 20, 2023, 04:23:39 AM
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I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.
[close]

afaik gear heads are pretty sure they're Reds, just with different shields.
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Mini Logos are noticeably different from Reds in that they have two shields, where Reds have one and the bearing retainer is sealed and visible in the rear. They appear to be totally different bearings, but in my personal experience, they're as good as Reds or other budget bearings.

Thanks for the correction.

Related question: How do y'all handle bearings with two shields? I find it quite annoying to have to remove one shield to see which side should face which way.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToySanta on November 20, 2023, 08:10:10 AM
Any ideas as to why one shoelace comes loose more often than another?? Not exclusive to skating, just general walking the last couple days.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 20, 2023, 08:36:23 AM
Any ideas as to why one shoelace comes loose more often than another?? Not exclusive to skating, just general walking the last couple days.

Because someone is gossiping about you.

But actually, probably something to do with precession and the manner in which you knot your shoelace. If you don't already, tie your shoes left over right, such that the knot resembles a bow tie going straight across the top of your shoes, instead of right-over-left, where the knot will angle slightly down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCwon2BKoQ
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 20, 2023, 09:17:22 AM
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Any ideas as to why one shoelace comes loose more often than another?? Not exclusive to skating, just general walking the last couple days.
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Because someone is gossiping about you.

But actually, probably something to do with precession and the manner in which you knot your shoelace. If you don't already, tie your shoes left over right, such that the knot resembles a bow tie going straight across the top of your shoes, instead of right-over-left, where the knot will angle slightly down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCwon2BKoQ

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but what he did in the video and what you said seem to contradict each other.  As, his method is the one to "supposedly" never untie but you're saying do the other way to never untie.


Either way, tying to make the bow across the top is the better way to do it, from my experience
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 20, 2023, 02:27:06 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/hCZtbMp/IMG-20231022-000736-173.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zN70p5K)
(https://i.ibb.co/tCQtyrn/IMG-20231022-000745-042.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4NKGBrC)
(https://i.ibb.co/b2C1zBg/IMG-20231022-000752-894.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txvB8sM)
(https://i.ibb.co/RDpRPMx/IMG-20231022-000802-579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1mfFKpD)
(https://i.ibb.co/CnQx7KY/IMG-20231022-000829-959.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jdXt3C)
(https://i.ibb.co/vJMMw0j/IMG-20231022-000836-731.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0fzzDHG)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZVzTT7D/IMG-20231022-000842-130.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PNGCC0H)

Look at this old shit. Cool right?
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You set me up for a good question for this thread but I'm gonna have to bend the wording to make it fit Shoes and Gear.

Since I don't see Frankie Hills' board in that poster, who was he riding for in 1991? Had he already been injured?

Good eye. I don't know that answer. Maybe he was still am?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 20, 2023, 02:50:47 PM
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I remember reading about mini logo bearings being decent, is it really true?
Just need bearings to put a second setup and found mini logos really cheap in here.
[close]

afaik gear heads are pretty sure they're Reds, just with different shields.
[close]

Mini Logos are noticeably different from Reds in that they have two shields, where Reds have one and the bearing retainer is sealed and visible in the rear. They appear to be totally different bearings, but in my personal experience, they're as good as Reds or other budget bearings.
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Thanks for the correction.

Related question: How do y'all handle bearings with two shields? I find it quite annoying to have to remove one shield to see which side should face which way.


I always take off the back shield to keep to use as a replacement if or when I need to.

All the main / best brands run the one shield on the outside, which is what I do as well, pop them to look, if it is the front, put it back on and pop the other one, put on a zip tie and in to the spare shields box.

It really doesn't matter either way if you do have two shields on, but as you said, running them without knowing which way they are, bearings in or out, it is a funny one.  I prefer bearings out.

Some bearings come with different colour shields too, eg black on one side, yellow on the other for one brand I have seen.  I still popped them to check and some were on either way.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kaydubbb on November 21, 2023, 01:13:38 AM
Anyone else hate when you have that little gap between the trucks and the deck where the nose and tail start to kick up after the bolts? Drives me insane.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 21, 2023, 05:53:27 AM
Anyone else hate when you have that little gap between the trucks and the deck where the nose and tail start to kick up after the bolts? Drives me insane.

Yeah man, that shit would drive me nuts. Especially when the board stands up and you are about to throw down. My homie has that gap with his Ventures on a few decks he rode. I never saw that with Indys or Thunders on BBS decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: vktrvghn on November 21, 2023, 06:07:11 AM
(https://www.noteshop.co.uk/cdn/shop/files/AprilGuyMarianobyGonzYellowStainDeck_1000x1000.jpg)

Does anyone know what board this shape is from orginally?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: alonelikeastone on November 21, 2023, 06:54:01 AM
Anyone notice Tony Hawk has been wearing lakai again lately?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ToySanta on November 21, 2023, 07:22:17 AM
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Any ideas as to why one shoelace comes loose more often than another?? Not exclusive to skating, just general walking the last couple days.
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Because someone is gossiping about you.

But actually, probably something to do with precession and the manner in which you knot your shoelace. If you don't already, tie your shoes left over right, such that the knot resembles a bow tie going straight across the top of your shoes, instead of right-over-left, where the knot will angle slightly down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCwon2BKoQ
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Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but what he did in the video and what you said seem to contradict each other.  As, his method is the one to "supposedly" never untie but you're saying do the other way to never untie.


Either way, tying to make the bow across the top is the better way to do it, from my experience

Thank you both for the feedback. I switched to my velcro-strapped shoes today; couldn’t take another day of madness until I watch this video later today. Cheers!

I feel too mundane to be gossiped about, but maybe that’s the true tea to tell…
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 21, 2023, 08:26:47 AM
Anyone notice Tony Hawk has been wearing lakai again lately?

He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.
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Post by: Ok on November 21, 2023, 11:32:08 AM
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Anyone notice Tony Hawk has been wearing lakai again lately?
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He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.


from just a sponsorship perspective, surprised that lakai didn’t do more with him, surprised that vans didn’t as well. he’s visible. i don’t feel like flaco is pushing weight. but what do i know. lakai is weird as hell. i’m a fan of griffin and simon. the rest, and the shoes tho. sheesh.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 21, 2023, 11:36:47 AM
I mean Tonys track record isn't that good what comes to his shoe deals
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 21, 2023, 02:28:40 PM
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He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.
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from just a sponsorship perspective, surprised that lakai didn’t do more with him, surprised that vans didn’t as well. he’s visible. i don’t feel like flaco is pushing weight. but what do i know. lakai is weird as hell. i’m a fan of griffin and simon, the rest, and the shoes tho. sheesh.

I have to imagine that Tony Hawk's value selling a product like a skateboard shoe is actually pretty minimal at this point.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
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He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.
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from just a sponsorship perspective, surprised that lakai didn’t do more with him, surprised that vans didn’t as well. he’s visible. i don’t feel like flaco is pushing weight. but what do i know. lakai is weird as hell. i’m a fan of griffin and simon, the rest, and the shoes tho. sheesh.
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I have to imagine that Tony Hawk's value selling a product like a skateboard shoe is actually pretty minimal at this point.

I both agree and disagree with this.

On one hand, he's a legend and people LOVE Tony Hawk so the novelty factor of it being "Tony Hawk" associated gear, there are plenty of people who will buy it because they're fans of him/what he rocks because he rocks it. I skated his Proto Lakai model and bought 3 colors. Skated 1 and hooked a homie up with the other 2. Pretty good shoe. I was interested because of Tony first and because I liked Lakai shoes (at the time).

On the other hand, he's not like Ishod, GT, Griffin Gass, etc. who are all in their "prime" so their skating = gear must be good if they're THAT good. "If I can float frontside airs or get tech because Ishod or Griffin's shoes, I'll get them" vibes.

Idk, I believe he has good selling power due to his visibility, his charismatic personality, honesty, and charitable efforts (Tony Hawk Foundation, giving completes away, etc.) to warrant pro collaborations with another brand he likes.

Must be dope to be a free agent and wear/skate your son's pro shoes though.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 21, 2023, 04:57:09 PM

Does anyone know what board this shape is from orginally?


Could guess it is the Gonz "Sweatpants" shape, just in a scaled down version, because they look pretty similar and it is Gonz doing the art so could have lent his shape design to the whole process too.


https://aprilskateboards.com/products/guy-by-gonz-purple?variant=45487903244571

Board Dimensions

9.6
31.76" x 9.6"
Nose - 6.69"
Tail - 6.96"
Wheelbase - 14.17


Krooked Gonz sweatpants deck


Width (inches)   9.81
Length (inches)   32
Wheelbase (inches)   14.375

(https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/krooked-gonz-sweatpants-2-ii-9-81-skateboard-deck.png)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 21, 2023, 06:29:54 PM
Anyone near Black Market and want grab a top pic of a deck for me?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on November 22, 2023, 03:03:58 AM
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Anyone else hate when you have that little gap between the trucks and the deck where the nose and tail start to kick up after the bolts? Drives me insane.
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Yeah man, that shit would drive me nuts. Especially when the board stands up and you are about to throw down. My homie has that gap with his Ventures on a few decks he rode. I never saw that with Indys or Thunders on BBS decks.
venture baseplates are slightly longer than other baseplates
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 22, 2023, 03:50:17 AM
Anyone notice Tony Hawk has been wearing lakai again lately?


Thats cool.

Wtf is wrong with airwalk tho. I would think they would've been like.

I see you baby shaking that ass.

I like Tony Hawk more than ever rn. As time goes by the respect just grows.

We was all wrong about Mr Hawk. He is top (living) ramp doggy.

If I was Tony I'd be using 808s tho. It's the best shoe ever designed. The DGK video is the proof.

Great skating but kids about to be mind raped by bullshit religious garbage.

I know some of them cats aren't down with that shit. It must suck being on that team sometimes.

Lending your street cred to someone who credits your skills to an imaginary being in the sky.

I'd fuckin try to quit over that.

Kalis's is god so idk wtf is even happening there.


Amen to the Great Kalis in the sky. Bestow your switch heels upon our undeserving eye pieces plz.

TURN THE MAN PRO!!! Wtf even is happening there?

#1 in town. This is undisputable.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on November 22, 2023, 05:43:54 AM
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He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.
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from just a sponsorship perspective, surprised that lakai didn’t do more with him, surprised that vans didn’t as well. he’s visible. i don’t feel like flaco is pushing weight. but what do i know. lakai is weird as hell. i’m a fan of griffin and simon, the rest, and the shoes tho. sheesh.
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I have to imagine that Tony Hawk's value selling a product like a skateboard shoe is actually pretty minimal at this point.
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I both agree and disagree with this.

On one hand, he's a legend and people LOVE Tony Hawk so the novelty factor of it being "Tony Hawk" associated gear, there are plenty of people who will buy it because they're fans of him/what he rocks because he rocks it. I skated his Proto Lakai model and bought 3 colors. Skated 1 and hooked a homie up with the other 2. Pretty good shoe. I was interested because of Tony first and because I liked Lakai shoes (at the time).

On the other hand, he's not like Ishod, GT, Griffin Gass, etc. who are all in their "prime" so their skating = gear must be good if they're THAT good. "If I can float frontside airs or get tech because Ishod or Griffin's shoes, I'll get them" vibes.

Idk, I believe he has good selling power due to his visibility, his charismatic personality, honesty, and charitable efforts (Tony Hawk Foundation, giving completes away, etc.) to warrant pro collaborations with another brand he likes.

Must be dope to be a free agent and wear/skate your son's pro shoes though.

I guess my point is that, if there were big demand for a legitimate Hawk skate shoe, such a thing would already exist. It’s entirely possible that it’s no longer worth his time to put energy into promoting a shoe when he gets a five-digit appearance fee for showing up to your corporate retreat in Aspen for a weekend. It’s not as if Tony is shy about sticking his name onto things. Maybe Lakai does a limited rerelease of his Proto or something.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 22, 2023, 07:43:31 AM
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He's been wearing Lakai since he left Vans. I haven't seen him in any promotional material, and it doesn't seem like they're giving him a shoe, so I imagine he's just getting flowed via his son and his old friends.
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from just a sponsorship perspective, surprised that lakai didn’t do more with him, surprised that vans didn’t as well. he’s visible. i don’t feel like flaco is pushing weight. but what do i know. lakai is weird as hell. i’m a fan of griffin and simon, the rest, and the shoes tho. sheesh.
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I have to imagine that Tony Hawk's value selling a product like a skateboard shoe is actually pretty minimal at this point.
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I both agree and disagree with this.

On one hand, he's a legend and people LOVE Tony Hawk so the novelty factor of it being "Tony Hawk" associated gear, there are plenty of people who will buy it because they're fans of him/what he rocks because he rocks it. I skated his Proto Lakai model and bought 3 colors. Skated 1 and hooked a homie up with the other 2. Pretty good shoe. I was interested because of Tony first and because I liked Lakai shoes (at the time).

On the other hand, he's not like Ishod, GT, Griffin Gass, etc. who are all in their "prime" so their skating = gear must be good if they're THAT good. "If I can float frontside airs or get tech because Ishod or Griffin's shoes, I'll get them" vibes.

Idk, I believe he has good selling power due to his visibility, his charismatic personality, honesty, and charitable efforts (Tony Hawk Foundation, giving completes away, etc.) to warrant pro collaborations with another brand he likes.

Must be dope to be a free agent and wear/skate your son's pro shoes though.
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I guess my point is that, if there were big demand for a legitimate Hawk skate shoe, such a thing would already exist. It’s entirely possible that it’s no longer worth his time to put energy into promoting a shoe when he gets a five-digit appearance fee for showing up to your corporate retreat in Aspen for a weekend. It’s not as if Tony is shy about sticking his name onto things. Maybe Lakai does a limited rerelease of his Proto or something.

so i was one of the very few that thought the first proto colorway looked fucking sick. like a jordan.

lakai has some cool designs, they just insist on making their shit out of play-doh. the concept to the execution, disconnect in there.
it must not be financially feasible for them to
make a shoe, really good. im impressed that they can just continue to make the mediocre stuff. wouldn’t at some point, as an employee/owner, you just want to make it rad?
nb has their issues, and the 1010 isn’t perfect, but the level care feels otherworldly in comparison to any lakai i’ve held in my hand.

and simon and griffin are too sick.


anyways, loved the first proto cw, missed it, bought a white pair, and the shape was all fucked and super super pointy, and the sole was the cheaper version of what they could have done, and the shoe was still expensive. skated ok. no reason why i’d skate it over a dunk tho.

also, the flare could be tiny and that would really help. a lot.


tony is a weird one i guess i’m not trying to buy his kit either
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 22, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Lakai is sick.

I feel like a legit Hawk shoe would fly off shelves maybe.

Hawks needs Croaker Sacks I think because he's a certified G.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on November 22, 2023, 08:06:46 AM
Didn't they already do that Proto shoe and it was actually good shoe that ended up in clearance racks because we are talking about Lakai in 2020ish?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fernando the skater on November 22, 2023, 08:20:56 AM
The Lakai Hawk shoe was pretty hideous looking though, wasn't it? I'm guessing the Adidas Nora shoe is selling well as it looks nice, so will appeal to the non-skate crowd who don't know who, or what, a nora is.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on November 22, 2023, 10:00:00 AM
lol dont you guys remember there was an entire HAWK brand of clothing head to toe, shoes, shorts, pads, completes, shirts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on November 22, 2023, 11:14:23 AM
The Lakai Hawk shoe was pretty hideous looking though, wasn't it? I'm guessing the Adidas Nora shoe is selling well as it looks nice, so will appeal to the non-skate crowd who don't know who, or what, a nora is.

No, I feel it was one of the better designs Lakai had done in awhile.  It wasn't a bland, basic vulc design we had been seeing from them. It used the same sole as the Atlantic and current runs of Telford XLK. If you like that sole, it would be good. If you didn't, then you wouldn't.

That shape could be too pointy for people, understandably. They skated pretty well. Flick felt great though! Were a little thin for the sole and the upper, but overall a good (not great) shoe. Not super durable, but not trashed in a day either.

Seemed to sell okay for a little while and the launch colors stirred a lot of buzz for Lakai and Tony nostalgia fans. The interest definitely tapered off as we headed into Covid, Tony left/they stopped producing them.
I owned 3 or 4 pairs and genuinely liked them. Skated 1/wore 1 and gave the other 2-3 away to minimize. I didn't like them enough to keep them, however.

It was a nice modern homage to Tony's Prototype from Airwalk. Couldn't find a good photo of the matching colorway in the Airwalk to the Proto I posted:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VwYAAOSwI7Rkvelx/s-l400.jpg)

(https://cdn.sanity.io/images/c1chvb1i/production/5407667ef3de572592dee0594ee8f4e0031255e6-700x468.jpg)

lol dont you guys remember there was an entire HAWK brand of clothing head to toe, shoes, shorts, pads, completes, shirts

I remember and have owned a handful of Hawk clothes when I was a teenager/young adult. Some of their button up long sleeves and sweaters were pretty nice. They lasted me a long time, so as far as budget friendly casual wear goes, they were a hit. Department store vibes with that HAWK line for sure. I might still have one of my hoodies. Will post a pic if I do
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 22, 2023, 12:05:52 PM
Do VX decks still have pretty steep kicks? Considering buying one online but don't want to be unpleasantly surprised. None of the local shops have them so I can check them out, either.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 22, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Do VX decks still have pretty steep kicks? Considering buying one online but don't want to be unpleasantly surprised. None of the local shops have them so I can check them out, either.
I got the most recent Mccoy VX twin tail and it's very steep (And not actually a twin, nose is steeper)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 22, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
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The Lakai Hawk shoe was pretty hideous looking though, wasn't it? I'm guessing the Adidas Nora shoe is selling well as it looks nice, so will appeal to the non-skate crowd who don't know who, or what, a nora is.
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No, I feel it was one of the better designs Lakai had done in awhile.  It wasn't a bland, basic vulc design we had been seeing from them. It used the same sole as the Atlantic and current runs of Telford XLK. If you like that sole, it would be good. If you didn't, then you wouldn't.

That shape could be too pointy for people, understandably. They skated pretty well. Flick felt great though! Were a little thin for the sole and the upper, but overall a good (not great) shoe. Not super durable, but not trashed in a day either.

Seemed to sell okay for a little while and the launch colors stirred a lot of buzz for Lakai and Tony nostalgia fans. The interest definitely tapered off as we headed into Covid, Tony left/they stopped producing them.
I owned 3 or 4 pairs and genuinely liked them. Skated 1/wore 1 and gave the other 2-3 away to minimize. I didn't like them enough to keep them, however.

It was a nice modern homage to Tony's Prototype from Airwalk. Couldn't find a good photo of the matching colorway in the Airwalk to the Proto I posted:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VwYAAOSwI7Rkvelx/s-l400.jpg)

(https://cdn.sanity.io/images/c1chvb1i/production/5407667ef3de572592dee0594ee8f4e0031255e6-700x468.jpg)

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lol dont you guys remember there was an entire HAWK brand of clothing head to toe, shoes, shorts, pads, completes, shirts
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I remember and have owned a handful of Hawk clothes when I was a teenager/young adult. Some of their button up long sleeves and sweaters were pretty nice. They lasted me a long time, so as far as budget friendly casual wear goes, they were a hit. Department store vibes with that HAWK line for sure. I might still have one of my hoodies. Will post a pic if I do


yeah this is the shoe. i thought it looked nice, and was obviously different, which i respect.

the shoe did skate ok. it didn’t feel like. $100 ish shoe, which is what i think they started off selling it as.
the sole isn’t terrible, but it’s not as nice as the og telford sole either.
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 22, 2023, 04:24:53 PM
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Do VX decks still have pretty steep kicks? Considering buying one online but don't want to be unpleasantly surprised. None of the local shops have them so I can check them out, either.
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I got the most recent Mccoy VX twin tail and it's very steep (And not actually a twin, nose is steeper)

Damn. Thanks for the info!
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Post by: DarkPools on November 22, 2023, 07:08:16 PM
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The Lakai Hawk shoe was pretty hideous looking though, wasn't it? I'm guessing the Adidas Nora shoe is selling well as it looks nice, so will appeal to the non-skate crowd who don't know who, or what, a nora is.
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No, I feel it was one of the better designs Lakai had done in awhile.  It wasn't a bland, basic vulc design we had been seeing from them. It used the same sole as the Atlantic and current runs of Telford XLK. If you like that sole, it would be good. If you didn't, then you wouldn't.

That shape could be too pointy for people, understandably. They skated pretty well. Flick felt great though! Were a little thin for the sole and the upper, but overall a good (not great) shoe. Not super durable, but not trashed in a day either.

Seemed to sell okay for a little while and the launch colors stirred a lot of buzz for Lakai and Tony nostalgia fans. The interest definitely tapered off as we headed into Covid, Tony left/they stopped producing them.
I owned 3 or 4 pairs and genuinely liked them. Skated 1/wore 1 and gave the other 2-3 away to minimize. I didn't like them enough to keep them, however.

It was a nice modern homage to Tony's Prototype from Airwalk. Couldn't find a good photo of the matching colorway in the Airwalk to the Proto I posted:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VwYAAOSwI7Rkvelx/s-l400.jpg)

(https://cdn.sanity.io/images/c1chvb1i/production/5407667ef3de572592dee0594ee8f4e0031255e6-700x468.jpg)

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lol dont you guys remember there was an entire HAWK brand of clothing head to toe, shoes, shorts, pads, completes, shirts
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I remember and have owned a handful of Hawk clothes when I was a teenager/young adult. Some of their button up long sleeves and sweaters were pretty nice. They lasted me a long time, so as far as budget friendly casual wear goes, they were a hit. Department store vibes with that HAWK line for sure. I might still have one of my hoodies. Will post a pic if I do
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yeah this is the shoe. i thought it looked nice, and was obviously different, which i respect.

the shoe did skate ok. it didn’t feel like. $100 ish shoe, which is what i think they started off selling it as.
the sole isn’t terrible, but it’s not as nice as the og telford sole either.

I remember them being about $80 at launch. Don't know if they raised or/dropped the MSRP at all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank Sobotka on November 24, 2023, 03:25:19 AM
I'm looking at some cheap decks to buy, and I've seen an Enjoi deck for like £29, but it says 'resin hybrid construction'. What does this mean? Is it basically a price point quality deck?
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Post by: JugeL on November 24, 2023, 03:45:51 AM
I'm looking at some cheap decks to buy, and I've seen an Enjoi deck for like £29, but it says 'resin hybrid construction'. What does this mean? Is it basically a price point quality deck?
"3.9 – RESIN HYBRID MAPLE
If you’re looking for a Resin Hybrid Maple construction, check out the decks by Dwindle brands Almost, Enjoi, Zero, Darkstar and Blind. For these decks, a mixture of “normal” Canadian maple wood and the harder “Hard Rock Maple” is used. These individually pressed decks are distinguished by their longevity."
(Skatedeluxe)

Seems pretty normal construction to me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank Sobotka on November 24, 2023, 03:54:00 AM
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I'm looking at some cheap decks to buy, and I've seen an Enjoi deck for like £29, but it says 'resin hybrid construction'. What does this mean? Is it basically a price point quality deck?
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"3.9 – RESIN HYBRID MAPLE
If you’re looking for a Resin Hybrid Maple construction, check out the decks by Dwindle brands Almost, Enjoi, Zero, Darkstar and Blind. For these decks, a mixture of “normal” Canadian maple wood and the harder “Hard Rock Maple” is used. These individually pressed decks are distinguished by their longevity."
(Skatedeluxe)

Seems pretty normal construction to me

Nice one! I probably could have just googled this myself but Slap always delivers
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on November 24, 2023, 06:43:56 AM
How long until Dwindle decks/brands run out? Or are they just still making them regardless of the dwindling (pun opportunity used)?
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Post by: BALARGUE on November 24, 2023, 08:45:44 AM
every distributor is sitting on a lot of inventory
some say they have extra stuff for 2 or 3 years

i don't know if dwindle will make another cliché scam with almost, blind, etc. but even if they stop producing those brands, decks will be available for a lonnnnng time
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Post by: mstuntbless on November 24, 2023, 11:53:03 AM
Conicals or classic shape?
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Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on November 24, 2023, 12:25:31 PM
Conicals or classic shape?

I hate the shape of classics, the skinny contact patch has never worked for me

Conicals all day, personally, but radials are a nice in-between if the hard cut edge isn't for you
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Post by: Plan9Customs on November 24, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Conicals or classic shape?

Classic for me. Easier on/off coping for reverts, less wheel bite, & better pinch. YMMV
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Post by: JugeL on November 24, 2023, 01:21:25 PM
You can't go wrong with the classic
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Post by: manysnakes on November 24, 2023, 04:31:36 PM
Classic, always.
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Post by: Ok on November 24, 2023, 05:14:16 PM
never skated conicals, not fond of conical fulls. or wasn’t, but maybe i’d come around to them.
classics. they look good, skate rad. sure they aren’t the best for crunchy roads, but just get a bigger size.
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Post by: DarkPools on November 24, 2023, 05:58:37 PM
Conical/ Conical Full > Classic

Every day of the week.  No question about it for me. Personally, I think the classic shape sucks. Too narrow riding surface, falls out of grinds too easily, looks weirdly thin, somehow slides worse on ledge/rails for me, doesn't keep speed that well, can't handle rougher ground/pebbles, and doesn't feel stable at all.
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Post by: rocklobster on November 24, 2023, 10:12:13 PM
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I'm looking at some cheap decks to buy, and I've seen an Enjoi deck for like £29, but it says 'resin hybrid construction'. What does this mean? Is it basically a price point quality deck?
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"3.9 – RESIN HYBRID MAPLE
If you’re looking for a Resin Hybrid Maple construction, check out the decks by Dwindle brands Almost, Enjoi, Zero, Darkstar and Blind. For these decks, a mixture of “normal” Canadian maple wood and the harder “Hard Rock Maple” is used. These individually pressed decks are distinguished by their longevity."
(Skatedeluxe)

Seems pretty normal construction to me
Resin Hybrid decks are 2 plys of maple and 5 plys of birch, fine for kids, but if you're looking for a deck that lasts go for the regular Resin-7.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 25, 2023, 02:20:55 AM
every distributor is sitting on a lot of inventory
some say they have extra stuff for 2 or 3 years

i don't know if dwindle will make another cliché scam with almost, blind, etc. but even if they stop producing those brands, decks will be available for a lonnnnng time


It would be interesting to see if they do try to release any more boards, or just stick to current team graphics or do anything more at all, seeing as their brands all seem dead and done, everyone who meant anything to the company gone, etc.

Either way, not a worry to me, but as long as people can pick up cheap boards, I guess that is a plus for the skate population who are into that wood.

Kind of sucks for anyone sitting on a ton of stock though, as I don't think there is much chance of moving it at anywhere near RRP unless it is a mall store and people buying it just don't even have a clue as to the industry situation or what has happened.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on November 25, 2023, 02:26:08 AM
Conicals or classic shape?

For slappies go classic.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on November 25, 2023, 07:15:55 AM
Was the 21st of November this year the day the most video's/parts dropped?
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Post by: behavioralguide on November 25, 2023, 09:15:45 AM
Is there somewhere I can still get the adidas Mike Arnold? Will they be re released? Are the any adidas insiders on this forum? @Sk.A.T.A.N ?
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Post by: Obijuan91 on November 25, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
Nike blazers non sb, are they good to skate in?
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Post by: DarkPools on November 25, 2023, 08:10:07 PM
Nike blazers non sb, are they good to skate in?

They're okay. They definitely don't have as much support/durable material/stitching as the SB ones, but they're completely skatable

Here's a video that may help your decision if you're interested in watching it. Ignore the "custom" thing in what he ordered.  The shoe itself is practically identical to what is sold off the shelf in stores

https://youtu.be/PNrp62rFJE4?si=0682fYjhwugiHz7x
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Post by: DakotaRed on November 26, 2023, 03:33:39 AM
Is there somewhere I can still get the adidas Mike Arnold? Will they be re released? Are the any adidas insiders on this forum? @Sk.A.T.A.N ?
Size 11 https://thepremierstore.com/products/mike-arnold-x-adidas-handball-top?_pos=23&_fid=fd1cf7a8a&_ss=c&variant=40388163502145
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Post by: Obijuan91 on November 26, 2023, 06:17:52 PM
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They're okay. They definitely don't have as much support/durable material/stitching as the SB ones, but they're completely skatable

Here's a video that may help your decision if you're interested in watching it. Ignore the "custom" thing in what he ordered.  The shoe itself is practically identical to what is sold off the shelf in stores

https://youtu.be/PNrp62rFJE4?si=0682fYjhwugiHz7x

Answered all my questions thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on November 27, 2023, 03:32:42 PM
Which bearings would you guys recommend to me if I don't care about them being super fast, I just want them to hold up super long without ever cleaning them? They just need to be ok in terms of speed, and stay that way virtually forever.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 27, 2023, 04:06:25 PM
Which bearings would you guys recommend to me if I don't care about them being super fast, I just want them to hold up super long without ever cleaning them? They just need to be ok in terms of speed, and stay that way virtually forever.


There are often two different ways of going down the bearing path.

Some swear by the Bones Swiss, initial spend is a bit more, but they last a long time, can go through many sets of wheels and hold up really well (for the most part for most people) for a long, long time.

Others go more for whatever they can get, Spitfire Cheapshots, Modus Black or Mini logo bearings, skate them for as long as the wheels last and then it is new wheels with new bearings time.  Their thinking is usually get bearing that work - yes all three of those work fine for a budget bearing - don't need to spend a whole lot, leave the bearings in the wheels when done and just the small initial outlay every time works out better for them.


Either way, I have both options going on and think they are both good, as far as Bones Swiss really do hold up a long time for me, but then when trying some of the cheaper bearings, just to see how they go, when I am not going super fast and just rolling around, the cheap ones do work well and I have no complaints about them, don't feel like they are a lot slower than Swiss, don't need to pump my guts out to hit every transition wall or push and push and push from one side of a park to the other, etc.

In that way, you can spread the cost out and get new bearings every time you get new wheels and have that crispy smooth roll every time, which is what those people do and what I found setting up these ones on some boards over the last year or so.


I also have Super Reds and quite a few other mid range bearings too, all of which work great, many of which I have not really had to look after a whole lot, or just give them a quick spray and they hold up fine.  I keep shields on and never take them completely apart to clean either, for that matter.



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Post by: manysnakes on November 27, 2023, 04:15:06 PM
Which bearings would you guys recommend to me if I don't care about them being super fast, I just want them to hold up super long without ever cleaning them? They just need to be ok in terms of speed, and stay that way virtually forever.

Bones Swiss 6
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Post by: moonordie on November 28, 2023, 03:21:21 AM
Which bearings would you guys recommend to me if I don't care about them being super fast, I just want them to hold up super long without ever cleaning them? They just need to be ok in terms of speed, and stay that way virtually forever.
If $ is not a problem: Bones swiss 6
If $ is tight: Flip HKD 5
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 28, 2023, 07:22:44 AM
Which bearings would you guys recommend to me if I don't care about them being super fast, I just want them to hold up super long without ever cleaning them? They just need to be ok in terms of speed, and stay that way virtually forever.

brimson basically said how i feel. if you know you are just oging to be lazy , ride them through puddles, keep them in the car over the winter, never clean them, but you want them to last forever then just spend the money on the bones swiss. nothing else will hold up the same. dont waste your money on the ceramics there is no noticeable difference.

i have all 3 tiers of bearings like brimson suggested. i have swiss that have lasted me like 6-7 years still going great. i did all that bad stuff - puddles, winter, etc. never cleaned em either i dont think.

i have some $40 Bronsons that I babied and they are very fast and basically feel brand new still because i took care of them. lately i am just doing $6 bearings i got from primitive and same thing i just take care of them and they are doing me absolutely fine. i love my setup right now.

bearings dont really add a noticeable amount of speed to your setup imo - its going up in wheel size is where you will notice it the most.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 28, 2023, 07:34:35 AM
Is there somewhere I can still get the adidas Mike Arnold? Will they be re released? Are the any adidas insiders on this forum? @Sk.A.T.A.N ?

@behavioralguide are these the ones you're looking for? Handball edition. https://ninetimesskateshop.com/products/adidas-mike-arnold-handball-top-black-navy-mikearnoldhandball?variant=40679866564662
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Post by: behavioralguide on November 28, 2023, 08:03:09 AM
@Madam, I'm Adam
@DakotaRed

Thx for the links
I'm Europe based and not sure how I feel about shipping 3 pairs of shoes across the Atlantic altough 68euros, even with 50 euros shipping on top, is cheaper than they are here and a very temping offer...

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Post by: moonordie on November 28, 2023, 10:00:19 AM
@Madam, I'm Adam
@DakotaRed

Thx for the links
I'm Europe based and not sure how I feel about shipping 3 pairs of shoes across the Atlantic altough 68euros, even with 50 euros shipping on top, is cheaper than they are here and a very temping offer...
Which size?
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Post by: behavioralguide on November 28, 2023, 10:17:41 AM
10

But ive realised a friend is back over in the US atm so she's taking two pairs back
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Post by: Frank and Fred on November 28, 2023, 01:08:50 PM
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Bones Swiss 6

Second this. Maintenance needs tend to be less for 6 balls.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on November 28, 2023, 08:47:45 PM
are the vans skate half-cabs the same sizing?
my 92 uprise ones are tts, heard the fit has changed.

i’m sure it’s been mentioned on here, i’m being lazy
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Post by: goodatmeth on November 29, 2023, 09:11:12 AM
Thanks for all the answers about bearings. Gonna think about it and probably invest in swiss six in the future, but at the moment it's way too much money. I feel like mini logos got a bit worse. Still the best in terms of bang for buck, but they used to hold up much longer for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 29, 2023, 02:28:32 PM
Thanks for all the answers about bearings. Gonna think about it and probably invest in swiss six in the future, but at the moment it's way too much money. I feel like mini logos got a bit worse. Still the best in terms of bang for buck, but they used to hold up much longer for me.


Re Mini logo bearings used to be better - Was that when they had the one rubber (black) shield and one metal one, or have you only skated the newer rubber shield version?

I haven't had a new set in quite a while of those ones although I have seen the variants of old and new, but the older ones that I pulled the metal side off still skate well for a cheap bearing in one board I have going.  Wondering if something changed along the way there somewhere.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 02, 2023, 08:49:57 AM
Can a Pal quickly help me with information.

I like ps but I can't remember my shape. I'm pretty sure it's PS (A)

But only B and C shape is available at the shop.

What does the C shape look like irl?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on December 02, 2023, 12:38:08 PM
Anybody has skated Penny 2? Worth it? Got a nice discount and I could get those or OG1 but don't want to waste a good discount that could be used in some 808
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Post by: DarkPools on December 02, 2023, 08:36:53 PM
Anybody has skated Penny 2? Worth it? Got a nice discount and I could get those or OG1 but don't want to waste a good discount that could be used in some 808

I haven't, but I tried them on and they fit and feel better than the Accel OG. Honestly, they fit how I wanted the current Accel OGs to fit. Roomy (but not too much), no toe scrunching in the front, and more "foot shaped" than the Accel.

I don't see a whole lot of them around (online or IRL) but they seem "good." I wouldn't say great, unless you're a puffy soletech enthusiast. I'm a big soletech fan and even I'm hesitant to skate them. They look durable AF though
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Post by: mstuntbless on December 03, 2023, 03:19:59 PM
Picked up a sci fi 8.5 listed as 14.5 wb but it was more like 14.3. Anyone else experience this?
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Post by: SaySo on December 04, 2023, 08:36:29 AM
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Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.
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I've got these in black and they're probably my favorite pants.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/ccs-original-relaxed-corduroy-pants-brown

Sorry for bumping this a year later, but how do these fit in the waist compared to like a Dickies 874? Are they TTS or vanity sized? And did they shrink a lot?
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Post by: LebowskisRug on December 04, 2023, 09:50:52 AM
Picked up a sci fi 8.5 listed as 14.5 wb but it was more like 14.3. Anyone else experience this?

What graphic? They sometimes use this shape, which is the same as the DLX Tom Knox/generic team deck shape.
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Post by: manysnakes on December 04, 2023, 09:55:11 AM
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Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.
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I've got these in black and they're probably my favorite pants.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/ccs-original-relaxed-corduroy-pants-brown
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Sorry for bumping this a year later, but how do these fit in the waist compared to like a Dickies 874? Are they TTS or vanity sized? And did they shrink a lot?

I have no idea. I only own some heavy duty Dickie's painter pants from my days as a laborer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: logjammin on December 04, 2023, 02:28:54 PM
Anyone here know what grit sandpaper to use to remove a board graphic the quickest when doing it by hand without an orbital sander? I've done the acetone method and also lacquer thinner which is acetone mixed with other chemicals and both leave a milky white haze on the stain after the graphic is gone and it looks like shit.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 04, 2023, 03:15:07 PM
Anyone here know what grit sandpaper to use to remove a board graphic the quickest when doing it by hand without an orbital sander? I've done the acetone method and also lacquer thinner which is acetone mixed with other chemicals and both leave a milky white haze on the stain after the graphic is gone and it looks like shit.


Probably doesn't help but I have used grip offcuts that worked well.

Checking the grip tape thread and people saying most grip was between 80 and 100, that seems to make sense.

I stuck the grip offcut to a woodblock and went to town, which worked well enough, but I found that using a blade like a scratchie on the graphic actually worked better, took the graphic off while still leaving the under layer of sealer intact for the most part and came up well.

That said, some graphics come off a lot better than others, so see how that goes.


What is the usual grade of sandpaper?
40 grit: Coarse.
80 grit: Medium.
100 grit: Medium.
120 grit: Fine.
220 grit: Fine.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on December 04, 2023, 03:18:16 PM
I've used 80 then 220. Depends on how much paint, but 80 took it off super quick, 220 got it nice and smooth, toss paint and/or clear over and it'll be great.
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Post by: mstuntbless on December 04, 2023, 03:30:29 PM
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Picked up a sci fi 8.5 listed as 14.5 wb but it was more like 14.3. Anyone else experience this?
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What graphic? They sometimes use this shape, which is the same as the DLX Tom Knox/generic team deck shape.

 
The locked file jerry hsu board
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: logjammin on December 04, 2023, 06:55:36 PM
I've used 80 then 220. Depends on how much paint, but 80 took it off super quick, 220 got it nice and smooth, toss paint and/or clear over and it'll be great.

and this was by hand without an orbital sander?

graphic is in the middle of the board, it's a WKND board with wheel wells and a beautiful teal stain. but i hate their graphics. It will look amazing just being a blank.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SaySo on December 04, 2023, 09:24:48 PM
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Anyone got any recommendations on where I can find some brown cords? I cant find any Kirkland brand ones lately so im looking for something with that similar fit/price range.
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I've got these in black and they're probably my favorite pants.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/ccs-original-relaxed-corduroy-pants-brown
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Sorry for bumping this a year later, but how do these fit in the waist compared to like a Dickies 874? Are they TTS or vanity sized? And did they shrink a lot?
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I have no idea. I only own some heavy duty Dickie's painter pants from my days as a laborer.

Ah, ok. Thanks for taking the time to reply though! hahaha.
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Post by: fs1/2cab on December 05, 2023, 02:45:08 AM
I've used 80 then 220. Depends on how much paint, but 80 took it off super quick, 220 got it nice and smooth, toss paint and/or clear over and it'll be great.

I also did it like this by hand. Takes a bit of time but can also be kinda relaxing.

*forgot to add, you can stick the sandpaper or grip on something like a wooden block. It will feel a bit more handy and you can apply even pressure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kaydubbb on December 05, 2023, 02:53:51 AM
What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 05, 2023, 02:54:45 AM
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I've used 80 then 220. Depends on how much paint, but 80 took it off super quick, 220 got it nice and smooth, toss paint and/or clear over and it'll be great.
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I also did it like this by hand. Takes a bit of time but can also be kinda relaxing.

*forgot to add, you can stick the sandpaper or grip on something like a wooden block. It will feel a bit more handy and you can apply even pressure.


Did you guys then finish / seal it with clear coat or anything, or just skate it as is after the sanding job?

The last one I sanded back I didn't do anything else to and skated it fine until it broke, so I guess it depends on how long a board lasts as well.

Just a thought anyway, as other people I know who reshape boards, or even have sessions on rough ground that rips up the sides will sand it back on the edges and apply clear coat to seal it again.  I can see their reasoning, but I haven't gone that far with the process.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 05, 2023, 03:04:01 AM
I did that clear coat only once but didn't do it the other times. With clear coat the deck felt like it would slide a little bit better, but maybe that was just in my head. When you wipe that dust off with a wet towel, the wood looks really good most of the time.
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on December 05, 2023, 08:22:21 AM
Picked up a sci fi 8.5 listed as 14.5 wb but it was more like 14.3. Anyone else experience this?

This happens with a lot brands, especially when it comes to wheelbase
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on December 05, 2023, 11:03:02 AM
What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PeteP on December 05, 2023, 12:33:08 PM
How does dsm compare to bbs? Im tempted to try an 8.38 or 8.5 Jacuzzi, my previous 3 boards were all 8.38 from Real, which are known to be closer to 8.5. Thanks in advance
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 05, 2023, 03:11:52 PM
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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)


I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.


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Post by: Woodshop on December 05, 2023, 03:18:26 PM
How does dsm compare to bbs? Im tempted to try an 8.38 or 8.5 Jacuzzi, my previous 3 boards were all 8.38 from Real, which are known to be closer to 8.5. Thanks in advance


Have you skated any other Dwindle or DSM boards before?  The list is pretty long, Enjoi, Blind, Darkstar and many others all on that wood, which is usually a lot stiffer than anything else, specific sizes and shapes to different molds, some steeper and some more mellow, but if you are asking about just the size, they are usually fairly spot on with widths, their 8.375 board being a little less than the DLX or similar 8.38, which as you said is closer to 8.5 in width, although some of the other BBS / Generator 8.375 boards are the same as the Dwindle / DSM 8.375 boards, which are a mm or so smaller than the DLX 8.38 boards.

Jacuzzi has the exact same shapes and wood as Enjoi, from what Louie had said / from people on other posts too, so if you had seen any of those, you already know what you would be getting, or at least could go in somewhere to check as there might still be a lot more Enjoi or similar boards around, more so than Jacuzzi boards anyway.


Woodshop thread here if you need a bit more of a range of product from those brands too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on December 05, 2023, 03:42:50 PM
my setup got pretty wet today. ik my boards fucked. but i was concerned bout my trucks n bearings.

running some af1 hollows and quantum isotopes. managed to pat dry the trucks. thanks
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Post by: Kaydubbb on December 05, 2023, 10:12:04 PM
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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)
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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.
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Post by: DarkPools on December 06, 2023, 01:05:03 AM
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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)
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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.
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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.

Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks
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Post by: scab on December 06, 2023, 02:09:46 AM
my setup got pretty wet today. ik my boards fucked. but i was concerned bout my trucks n bearings.

running some af1 hollows and quantum isotopes. managed to pat dry the trucks. thanks

Make sure you get all the water out of the bearings by removing the shields and spinning them. Then apply some lubricant (less is usually more) and you should be good to go.

The trucks should not be affected whatsoever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Kaydubbb on December 06, 2023, 03:12:34 AM
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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)
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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.
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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.
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Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks

I might be explaining wrong, I mean a physical gap between the baseplate of trucks and the bottom of the board. When there's not much flat or the tail and nose kick up quickly after the bolts there is sometimes a small gap at the back of the baseplate. Not referring to the fingers of flat as the gap.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: commander jameson on December 06, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.
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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)
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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.
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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.
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Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks
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I might be explaining wrong, I mean a physical gap between the baseplate of trucks and the bottom of the board. When there's not much flat or the tail and nose kick up quickly after the bolts there is sometimes a small gap at the back of the baseplate. Not referring to the fingers of flat as the gap.

Santa Cruz use to have specific concave back in the day that did just that what you are trying to explain.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3321/3247387142_c29674c7fe_b.jpg)

I remember that SC use to sell specific risers for those decks to avoid problem when baseplate is not touching deck.
This sometimes happens with modern concaves bud I don't remember when was last time I saw it, maybe back in 90s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on December 06, 2023, 05:18:11 AM
Tom Knox has aged well!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on December 07, 2023, 05:04:12 AM
Are Fastbreaks TTS?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lildonut92 on December 07, 2023, 05:39:42 AM
I tried searching but couldn’t find much. What’s the consensus on sizing for the Adidas Puig (Cupsole)? I usually have to go half size up on most adidas.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on December 07, 2023, 05:57:56 AM
I tried searching but couldn’t find much. What’s the consensus on sizing for the Adidas Puig (Cupsole)? I usually have to go half size up on most adidas.
TTS for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Firebert on December 07, 2023, 06:49:02 AM
Are Fastbreaks TTS?
For me, skate version, yes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 07, 2023, 02:02:32 PM
I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on December 07, 2023, 06:52:01 PM
I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.

I just use a screw gun but I'm really good with one. Finish with a screwdriver to get them tighter

I set them at 2 fingers from the edge, but you can set them at one finger

Sometimes I set the top and bottom screw first and then pull on the rail to round it out to the edge for an old school look, or to go with the shape of the board. Best practise is to start from the middle and go out, but I never do

You can test them with double sided tape
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Easy Slider on December 07, 2023, 07:42:52 PM
Ask the shop dude  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 07, 2023, 08:36:25 PM
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I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.
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I just use a screw gun but I'm really good with one. Finish with a screwdriver to get them tighter

I set them at 2 fingers from the edge, but you can set them at one finger

Sometimes I set the top and bottom screw first and then pull on the rail to round it out to the edge for an old school look, or to go with the shape of the board. Best practise is to start from the middle and go out, but I never do

You can test them with double sided tape

Thanks doggie. I kinda pulled it. I just mashed the double sided curb up the street. I haven't figured it yet. Also I stripped one. Gonna wood glue later maybe.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZfnMBxZ/17020095352083340924005830826148.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S6h3tBL)

At the curb
My wheels ain't quite clearing. They soft too and the curb is sharp af. Then my trucks froze. I'm throwing a thunder top in tomorrow. It's green too. That's sick.

I'm really hoping it'll give me more pop out a flat bar. I haven't been able to board pop to truck up since returning to tricks.

Also this graphic is layed out with two straight edges on each side. It's near perfectly centered too.

I just should have put the inside of the rail against it. I lined the holes up with it instead.

Next time. Lined up perfectly with the two amps
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tom on December 07, 2023, 08:49:55 PM
Why do trucks feel tighter when you set up a new board? Doesn’t matter which woodshop it is. I could set up the same shape and same size board from the same company two boards in a row, but my trucks always feel rock hard at the start of the boards life and extra loose(the way I like) right before it’s dead. Is it the stiffness of the new board?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 07, 2023, 09:10:22 PM
Why do trucks feel tighter when you set up a new board? Doesn’t matter which woodshop it is. I could set up the same shape and same size board from the same company two boards in a row, but my trucks always feel rock hard at the start of the boards life and extra loose(the way I like) right before it’s dead. Is it the stiffness of the new board?

Could be.I prefer loose trucks. And I definitely prefer my boards kinda older. Like right before razor tail ruins it is my favorite time in its life.

The 6.1s I just got are kinda on the looser side for new Ventures. It might be because I'm so magic carpet rn tho.
I might have better leverage because my axles are so in

They should make a 6.9 with a 9" axle maybe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 08, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
I gotta shout out whoever (however many of you out there!) recommended using some soap on your pivot cups to quiet the squeaking. Proverbial GNARS to all of you!!!

Breaking in new Indys (cruiser) with stock pivot cups seemed like a forever noisy battle until I remembered some pals suggested using soap or oil or something similar to grease up the cup. Holy shit did that quiet it almost instantly!!  I had some new clicking for about 20 minutes after the reinstall, but riding the board around solved that. Now, my cruiser glides with ease and is almost silent. Perfect!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on December 08, 2023, 06:44:54 PM
Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on December 08, 2023, 06:47:18 PM
where is the news about DC?
second time seeing this within the hour
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: emotional_degloving on December 08, 2023, 06:53:26 PM
where is the news about DC?
second time seeing this within the hour

It's mainly the thread in Wooden Toy Banter, I think it's a lot of doom-speculation imo but a lot of people have left, like the global brand manager, Dway and Colin, Wes K. I think I'm missing someone else as well.

Still, Kalis, Jahmir and Shannahan seem to be doing alright, Kalis' even getting a new shoe next year from the looks of his stories.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 08, 2023, 08:45:52 PM
Anyone feel like the recent pressings of BBS decks have been sub par? Snapped my last Habitat twin on a frontside flip, this was from their latest drop of decks. Granted I landed heavy on the tail but it was chipping prematurely. The previous batch of Habitat decks from China never gave out on me like this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 08, 2023, 09:05:06 PM
I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there some of those were pretty sick. Not like death but there's deers that stand in the middle of the road in groups at night and they down to fight a skater.

Idk. I'm just dreaming of the past. I should have escaped the family and stayed in LA longer.  They just tricked me into coming home. Then turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition in form of a dream the night before. Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing on like 10 rolls when they took me away in my underwear too.

Lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on December 08, 2023, 10:48:58 PM

I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart
ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there
some of those were pretty sick. Not like
death but
there's deers that stand in the middle of the road
in groups at night
and they down to fight a skater.

Idk.
I'm just dreaming of the past.
I should have escaped the family
and stayed in LA longer.  They just
tricked me
into coming home. Then
turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition
in form of a dream the night before.
Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing
on like 10 rolls  when
they took me away
in my underwear too.

Lol

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on December 08, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?
Go for NB#.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: disgruntledMTAEmployee on December 09, 2023, 09:51:53 AM
wtf is going on at element with them selling so many decks on the cheap for months? How do the section decks from those recent sales skate?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on December 09, 2023, 11:16:29 AM
wtf is going on at element with them selling so many decks on the cheap for months? How do the section decks from those recent sales skate?

Element is a MASSIVE company, compared to other board brands. I'm sure it just makes more sense for them to dump all their old overstock inventory for cheap than continue holding it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on December 09, 2023, 12:08:07 PM
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I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart
ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there
some of those were pretty sick. Not like
death but
there's deers that stand in the middle of the road
in groups at night
and they down to fight a skater.

Idk.
I'm just dreaming of the past.
I should have escaped the family
and stayed in LA longer.  They just
tricked me
into coming home. Then
turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition
in form of a dream the night before.
Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing
on like 10 rolls  when
they took me away
in my underwear too.

Lol

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I believe Kelly is on record stating that he only ever skated the hill in front of his house and that it wasn't much of a hill because he lived



(https://media.tenor.com/qys7dPVDWhQAAAAM/half-baked-dave-chapelle.gif)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on December 09, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
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wtf is going on at element with them selling so many decks on the cheap for months? How do the section decks from those recent sales skate?
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Element is a MASSIVE company, compared to other board brands. I'm sure it just makes more sense for them to dump all their old overstock inventory for cheap than continue holding it.


I could have a guess and say that the whole company that owns Element along with DC and other brands are travelling with a little too much momentum and sliding off the proverbial cliff with nothing to hold on to, or so it would seem.

Clearing out absolutely stupid amounts of stock to try to get back some $$$ to make the bottom line look a little better might be one thing, but it seems like this time there might not be a whole lot coming back, along with team riders leaving left and right from various brands and not a whole lot to keep them going as a company, besides the corporate backing and looking for new investors / buyers to get them out of the financial hole they have dug for themselves.


Sorry if that might be a little harsh or too deep for what would usually not be anything to do with the Woodshop thread or topic.

Least of all, get them while you can, decent wood - BBS or China made boards - in reasonable shapes at very cheap prices are not everyone's taste, but if you don't have a problem blanking them or riding them as is, there sure are some ridiculous prices and good deals to be had for the wood right now.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: cucktard on December 10, 2023, 02:22:00 AM
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I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart
ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there
some of those were pretty sick. Not like
death but
there's deers that stand in the middle of the road
in groups at night
and they down to fight a skater.

Idk.
I'm just dreaming of the past.
I should have escaped the family
and stayed in LA longer.  They just
tricked me
into coming home. Then
turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition
in form of a dream the night before.
Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing
on like 10 rolls  when
they took me away
in my underwear too.

Lol

[close]

Gnarred

We should make a zine of just Flea’s poetry, put into poetic form.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on December 10, 2023, 09:32:32 AM
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Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?
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Go for NB#.
I am a fiend for the Josl1n’s and I have a big ol’ bunion. (Big toe bone sticks way on the side), and they don’t ever hurt or feel tight like Nike Dunks and other thin shoes do.

As for skate belt: Arcade. Absolute best damn belt ever. Plastic and recycled polyester (or something) that you can throw in the wash when it’s all gross and sweaty.

Definitely wish I had these when I was skating almost everyday for hours and putting on just dried sweaty pants and socks because if I didn’t then I’d be doing a shit-ton of laundry.

You might be able to find them at skate shops (I think I saw at one of the big online skate stores once, but here it is direct from the company:

https://arcadebelts.com/collections/adventure-stretch-belts/products/atlas-stretch-belt?variant=42381211795509
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 10, 2023, 10:21:55 AM
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Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?
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Go for NB#.

For belts I have an Arcade woven belt. It looks nice like a normal woven, but has some stretch in it so it never feels restrictive.

Like this belt, so any woven stretch belt should do
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjhu7PvvYWDAxUN08IEHdVoBFcYABAjGgJwdg&ae=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4NWrBhD-ARIsAFCKwWuaQG9qasReWzduJibu5oILiYyNTgs4VrNl_6VJWIYgbbCaiUtIXw0aAgGeEALw_wcB&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESVeD2-inkiUt6qudGC28VRde7LD1x_1MibsYEweakFaqkQmuWka8EsFYJ9Bc-YAgErFd1bQaduzf2imWVGPhDBFzOf9RClDeOIzHNo5oMZ2u6768HoxI&sig=AOD64_0gRz3Hf5kUoo4REjQhF0_1tSIMJA&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjwt6rvvYWDAxULJkQIHU8uDi8Qwg8oAHoECAYQXA&adurl=
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 10, 2023, 01:11:19 PM
Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?



The boards are from one of the mass produced deck manufacturers in China, reasonable boards if you just want some cheap wood, most likely from one of the main ones, but I wouldn't say anything amazing about them, if they are the ones I am thinking of.

Some people do like them quite a lot, so for the price, they are worth having a go if you want and see, but I would order only a few at first.


As for belts, I have these thicker material web belts or clamp belts I have been wearing for a long, long time in my 874 pants - easily adjustable, never have issues with them, same as quite a few skate brands but you can get blank ones from army surplus / disposal stores or quite a few other places, always the clamp, not the sliding pin inside though.  They sit flat and I can use a hair tie / elastic band to hold the end in nice and tight, so there are no annoyances while I skate.

I see some good ones from Vans, Volcom, Spitfire, and most other brands have had them at one point or another too.

This is a fairly plain looking one that you can see the buckle in detail anyway:


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/364501884649


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/secAAOSwevxlE-~Z/s-l1200.webp)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on December 10, 2023, 06:13:29 PM
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Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?
[close]
Go for NB#.
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I am a fiend for the Josl1n’s and I have a big ol’ bunion. (Big toe bone sticks way on the side), and they don’t ever hurt or feel tight like Nike Dunks and other thin shoes do.

I have a huge bunion on my left foot and most shoes feel tight out of the box, eS and NB have hurt the least. I recommend using a shoe stretcher for a few days, then walking around in them before skating them. Most suede and leather models will stretch out fine, the newer tech materials like eS' Everstitch Eco has zero give and is still really tight even after a month of skating.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 10, 2023, 09:07:34 PM
I got jury duty tomorrow.

It's far away too. I have to drive up there. I've never been called up before.

I feel like it's a trap. I feel like I'm not going to make it out of there because they will want to punish me for my feelings on the state.

I feel like I need a lawyer.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 10, 2023, 09:23:03 PM
I'm in Canada so it's probably different, and it was during COVID and I thought for sure they wouldn't pick me..... wrong... a month jury duty...it was not rad.

I think you just need to make an excuse quickly....in hindsight, i should have had my employer write a letter or explain that I had relatives in the same town where the crime occurred?  It was a possessions charge and one guy didn't have to serve because someone in his family OD'd.....

Also, I got paid so I had less excuses, if I didn't get paid then I'm pretty sure I could claim financial hardship, this might be another way out. 

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 10, 2023, 09:25:29 PM
I was thinking of just saying I got RSV or COVID.    Just coughing my arm until they let me go home.

Or I was just going to say lawyer only
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on December 11, 2023, 12:19:14 AM
Man the jury system over there is fucked. Justice should be left to professionals only.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on December 11, 2023, 10:16:48 AM
Street League should implement jury duty system

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 11, 2023, 11:01:29 AM
Street League should implement jury duty system

I agree

Today sucked. They want me to drive back tomorrow. Its impossible
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: the_dangery_bois on December 11, 2023, 11:45:25 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/7j1kxwb/IMG-2831.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7j1kxwb)
What are the teeth on this tool for?  I had this sitting around for a long time.  It came with some hardware.  The wrench side reminds me of an old school skate key.  The little saw part?  No clue.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on December 11, 2023, 12:09:03 PM
Had jury duty a few months ago. Had to drive an hour, wait around for another hour to be told to come back in 3 hours. When I finally got into the courtroom they were screening jurors and I just happened to know one of the plaintiffs family members.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on December 11, 2023, 12:27:55 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7j1kxwb/IMG-2831.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7j1kxwb)
What are the teeth on this tool for?  I had this sitting around for a long time.  It came with some hardware.  The wrench side reminds me of an old school skate key.  The little saw part?  No clue.
The saw is a janky little grip tape file.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 11, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
I was on a jury with a famous writer, but it ended up being settled before we really got going.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 11, 2023, 07:49:23 PM
Yeah they never called me back.

They gave me a quiz about how I feel about convinced sex offenders. One who's been in prison for a grip too. I basically said he ain't getting out if I'm on that jury.

No fuckin way.

They probably wanna let him go. Probably a rat. The system loves a rapist. I seen it irl.

Those bastards get all their goodtime day one. Because they can't go to programs.

Bitches work for the fuckin state.

We just had a fucking rapist for a president
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 11, 2023, 09:13:55 PM
sick you didn't have to serve...it was dope not working for a month, but nah....I wouldn't do it again.....

you soon sort of realize who can do jury duty and it's not always great from criminals....middle aged or older guys with decent jobs or more likely.....Karens.....

A judge at least understands the law....in 2023...you think a housewife is sympathetic? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on December 12, 2023, 01:25:58 PM
Has a company ever done a LA Gear style light-up skate shoe?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on December 13, 2023, 01:22:04 PM
Honest question, does anyone find Blazer mids to be very warm? Like I have never had such sweaty feet until I got this pair of them. There must be literally zero ventilation in these puppies.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 13, 2023, 01:32:23 PM
sick you didn't have to serve...it was dope not working for a month, but nah....I wouldn't do it again.....

you soon sort of realize who can do jury duty and it's not always great from criminals....middle aged or older guys with decent jobs or more likely.....Karens.....

A judge at least understands the law....in 2023...you think a housewife is sympathetic?

Fereal.

I was not going to get paid tho because I don't irl. I been picking up moving jobs here and there I definitely could have werked that day tho.

Housewives should get double.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 13, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
Honest question, does anyone find Blazer mids to be very warm? Like I have never had such sweaty feet until I got this pair of them. There must be literally zero ventilation in these puppies.

Speaking truth.

I took aul? All? Awl? To my second pair. Punching a few holes. Still didn't fix it.

Sick shoe but you gotta wear wool or good cotton sox.

If you're wearing a synthetic joint it's only a matter of time till you got the funk cracking up your shiny red feets
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on December 13, 2023, 11:23:08 PM
Honest question, does anyone find Blazer mids to be very warm? Like I have never had such sweaty feet until I got this pair of them. There must be literally zero ventilation in these puppies.
Not at all, at least not in my experience. Also I don't live in a very warm place but still.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: oak leaf on December 14, 2023, 01:11:07 PM
i dont know anyone who skates exclusively transition.

what im wondering is, if you never leave the bowl/mini, when do you replace your deck and why?

when youre skating street or flat its easy to notice the sogging out or the loss of pop.

obviously you replace it when it legit breaks lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 14, 2023, 02:43:22 PM
i dont know anyone who skates exclusively transition.

what im wondering is, if you never leave the bowl/mini, when do you replace your deck and why?

when youre skating street or flat its easy to notice the sogging out or the loss of pop.

obviously you replace it when it legit breaks lol


For some people, boards can still get really flexi without breaking, so in that way it is not all that different, pumping in big transition and feeling the tail mush out sort of thing is a good reason to change out a board.

Really though, boards can last a whole lot longer on mini ramps without crazy big decker type tricks, which are often board breakers through the middle, but then I have also seen some amazingly bad chips from people trying airs or similar and bailing and unwittingly flinging the board, chipping up and then needing to be swapped out sooner rather than later.


The boards I keep just for my mini ramp really get paint wear and nothing else, so from that, it is more when I get sick of them and change them out than anything else, so I have some of those boards still going for years, compared to other boards I skate everything on and are done in a month or so.

Some of the guys I know who have Powell Flight boards change the grip every few months and maybe epoxy the dings and keep those things going longer than anyone else I know, which is nuts, but they hold up a long time for those transition / half pipe / vert dudes.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on December 14, 2023, 05:39:49 PM
i dont know anyone who skates exclusively transition.

what im wondering is, if you never leave the bowl/mini, when do you replace your deck and why?

when youre skating street or flat its easy to notice the sogging out or the loss of pop.

obviously you replace it when it legit breaks lol


After i get bored of it. Jokes. Well not really. I skate mainly transition but I still bust out flatground seshes here and there. So my board gets more well rounded wear. But it’s mainly from it getting too flexy. That can happen anywhere between 1-2 months. Definitely not under a month. I’m also not the lightest dude.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: scab on December 15, 2023, 03:00:58 AM
I've been riding an OG Baker shape for the last couple of weeks, my first time skating anything remotely this mellow. I'm crazy inconsistent with it and can't really figure out why that is. I know we have a couple of flat board aficionados on here, can y'all tell me why you like it that way and what makes it work better for you than a steeper concave?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on December 15, 2023, 03:52:39 AM
I've been riding an OG Baker shape for the last couple of weeks, my first time skating anything remotely this mellow. I'm crazy inconsistent with it and can't really figure out why that is. I know we have a couple of flat board aficionados on here, can y'all tell me why you like it that way and what makes it work better for you than a steeper concave?

the kicks are mellower, so closer to the ground, which makes it (imo) easier to pop, like it takes less work to pop a trick well because the tail hits quicker.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on December 15, 2023, 06:49:19 AM
I've been riding an OG Baker shape for the last couple of weeks, my first time skating anything remotely this mellow. I'm crazy inconsistent with it and can't really figure out why that is. I know we have a couple of flat board aficionados on here, can y'all tell me why you like it that way and what makes it work better for you than a steeper concave?

Like anything, just takes some adjustment.

I like mellower boards because they are more comfortable to ride.

For flip tricks, I like that I can have my feet closer to Ollie position for most tricks vs. a steeper board.

Straight kickflips, for example, I imagine kicking off closer to the center of the nose on a flatter board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 15, 2023, 01:17:24 PM
Super mellow, flat boards take more effort (in a way) to skate. Basically, if the concave and kicks are mellower, you have to kick way harder to get the board to flip. Takes longer for your foot to catch the edge of the nose/tail to initiate a kickflip or heelflip, for example. With steeper (relative to flatter boards) concave/kicks, the flick is more responsive and doesn't need you to kick as hard as Bruce Lee because of the pronounced concave/kicks.

Neen, notorious for heelflips, did his ninja kick style partly because he was skating mellower boards. Most of the dudes with super extendo flicks on their flip tricks tend to skate mellower boards from what I've seen.

I think working on timing and foot placement for pop/flipping will help improve your consistency
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on December 15, 2023, 10:54:49 PM
What happened to Thrasher 's "This old Ledge" videos on YouTube, I swear I read some where that Ted was filming more of them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 15, 2023, 11:10:50 PM
Yeah my impression is he’s doing more….maybe NYC?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on December 16, 2023, 12:27:15 AM
I thought so. The UN plaza video reminded me of that series. Hopefully they are just waiting for SOTY madness to settle.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lildonut92 on December 16, 2023, 06:06:35 AM
Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 16, 2023, 08:05:46 AM
What happened to Thrasher 's "This old Ledge" videos on YouTube, I swear I read some where that Ted was filming more of them.

They're splitting it into seasons, AFAIK. So season one was around SF, two will be in NYC, etc.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 16, 2023, 08:12:56 AM
Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?

43 and I skate primarily in vulcanized shoes. I don't use any magic insoles, usually just what was included with the shoe. I think the trick is to keep and maintain strong feet. I'm not particularly strong in other ways - I don't go to the gym or lift, nothing like that. I do a lot of standing, walking, hiking, cycling, and some running. I bring a lacrosse ball without me every time I skate and I spend 5-10 minutes rolling the ball around on my feet to stretch out the muscles. I warm up my ankles and feet with therabands almost every day, especially since I experience I really bad ankle roll a few years ago.

I think foot and ankle strength is pretty overlooked, but also I don't blame anyone who just opts for cupsoles.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lildonut92 on December 16, 2023, 08:26:13 AM
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Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?
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43 and I skate primarily in vulcanized shoes. I don't use any magic insoles, usually just what was included with the shoe. I think the trick is to keep and maintain strong feet. I'm not particularly strong in other ways - I don't go to the gym or lift, nothing like that. I do a lot of standing, walking, hiking, cycling, and some running. I bring a lacrosse ball without me every time I skate and I spend 5-10 minutes rolling the ball around on my feet to stretch out the muscles. I warm up my ankles and feet with therabands almost every day, especially since I experience I really bad ankle roll a few years ago.

I think foot and ankle strength is pretty overlooked, but also I don't blame anyone who just opts for cupsoles.

Yeah that’s probably what I should be doing. I miss vulcs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on December 16, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 16, 2023, 12:36:32 PM
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.

Paging @Mbrimson88

I did that with some old 80hds. Took a block of wood, cut out a hole with the radius I wanted(1/16” bigger than), epoxied some tubing on it and then stuck sand paper on it(progressively finer grits and just rough it somewhat close but save it for the final finishing grit ie 320) and chucked the wheels on some all thread in a drill press. Worked well.
I think I tossed the radius jig when I moved though. There may be pics in my posts somewhere.
If you’re using a lathe it should be fairly easy(assuming you know some who can show you how to use it) with good results.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on December 16, 2023, 01:17:30 PM
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
How about skate them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 16, 2023, 01:36:45 PM
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Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
[close]

Paging @Mbrimson88

I did that with some old 80hds. Took a block of wood, cut out a hole with the radius I wanted(1/16” bigger than), epoxied some tubing on it and then stuck sand paper on it(progressively finer grits and just rough it somewhat close but save it for the final finishing grit ie 320) and chucked the wheels on some all thread in a drill press. Worked well.
I think I tossed the radius jig when I moved though. There may be pics in my posts somewhere.
If you’re using a lathe it should be fairly easy(assuming you know some who can show you how to use it) with good results.



Yeah if you have access to a lathe, it is very easy.  Also very easy to destroy a wheel or yourself, so I am told, but this is a post from a friend who does have such access and skill.  He made his own shaping guide tool as well.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CFjeLGPFwzS/?img_index=2



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 16, 2023, 01:43:52 PM
.

My go to is just an angle grinder, so although I can do a pretty good job on any wheel, it doesn't have the "factory finish" look that someone with a lathe can achieve with a bit of patience and effort.

To note, when I have tried to take wheels down in size / diameter, I have often had mixed results, but just reshaping the side of the wheels is the main thing I do.

Get any old wheel, often squared off or looking pretty bad, then taking the sides down a bit or a lot, rounding them off or shaping them to whatever I like, so I have made some really round "Classic Full" and more rounded wheels in the past from some that were anything but rounded, eg Conical Full 58 mm down to under 50 mm and now rounded off to make some really nice fun width small wheels.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CzwAx7MpRyE/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on December 16, 2023, 01:44:07 PM
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Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
[close]
How about skate them
A fine question, my esteemed PAL.
Usually, I'll pass them on and let somebody else skate them.
But I'm still thrifty enough at heart to think that paying for a tiny wheel is kind of silly when there's already a set of them hiding right there of these blown-out conical fulls I have.
Plus, you seen the 56s once they get down to 52mm? Not much lip left, feel me?
Might as well do something with them, I reckon.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud over here; bouncing my dumb ideas of the homies.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 16, 2023, 02:21:44 PM
i dont know anyone who skates exclusively transition.

what im wondering is, if you never leave the bowl/mini, when do you replace your deck and why?

when youre skating street or flat its easy to notice the sogging out or the loss of pop.

obviously you replace it when it legit breaks lol

Depends.

When I was a Grom skating nearly nothing but mini ramp I did a ton of pogos and disasters.
What's cooler than taking that trick to disaster or to truck?

Nothing.

It definitely wears your board down. Also if you're skating 6'+ chips are guaranteed to happen.

Also keep in mind I'm talking about boards in the 80s early 90s before the shrinkage

Also I was like 90lbs
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 16, 2023, 02:26:19 PM
I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 16, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
rails....
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 16, 2023, 02:59:32 PM
rails....


I just got but it's still not enough. The wheels bite the bricks and I get forced out to forward.

It's really like a high speed disaster pop out. Kills my knee.

Backside slides enough to go fakie but I'm not ready for all  that. I'm trying to get that Copley 99 feeling. That fuckin thing went.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 16, 2023, 10:56:59 PM
Dragons?  Short of that….one of those huge candles and fire? 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on December 17, 2023, 09:17:57 AM
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 17, 2023, 11:52:37 AM
Has anyone ever weighed Bones vs Spit.

Feel like my Dragons are heavier than my new Spits. This seems impossible tho. The Dragons are like 55 x 33 started as 58mm Rat Bones twos. In my opinion its by far the best Bones shape. Followed by the discontinued DTF Ditch Tech Formula in second best shape ever. I would say the && Nano is that shape but the cores are drilled off set.

The Spit i just got is the 97a Conical Full 54x38 has no side cuts or whatever like my Dragons so the Spit should feel much heavier in hand. They dont. If i had a scale id look into it.

I am interested to know. I guess V2 vs Tabs would be the way to find out. Or better yet. V2 stf vs v2 Dragons or whatever shape is identical
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 17, 2023, 11:59:40 AM
I’m more curious if anyone has ever weighed the average user…..my money is on the Dragons….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on December 17, 2023, 02:44:41 PM
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.


My understanding is with those Krooked Gonz special boards, they are twice the cost to make, or something like that, so the retail price is going to be way up there as well, twice or more what a normal board would cost.

There was a video on it somewhere, but I can't find it right now, but someone from a shop explaining how they are made and what goes into them, cost of products and justifying why they are so expensive for the most part.  Of course if you were going to run a shop and have to charge that much, it would be good to explain why.

That's my take on it anyway, from a woodshop perspective.



https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2023/


(https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall23/kr-fl23-d3-ladybug.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 17, 2023, 02:59:19 PM
I’m more curious if anyone has ever weighed the average user…..my money is on the Dragons….

True. Thin and Spit here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 17, 2023, 03:14:45 PM
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Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.
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My understanding is with those Krooked Gonz special boards, they are twice the cost to make, or something like that, so the retail price is going to be way up there as well, twice or more what a normal board would cost.

There was a video on it somewhere, but I can't find it right now, but someone from a shop explaining how they are made and what goes into them, cost of products and justifying why they are so expensive for the most part.  Of course if you were going to run a shop and have to charge that much, it would be good to explain why.

That's my take on it anyway, from a woodshop perspective.



https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2023/


(https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall23/kr-fl23-d3-ladybug.jpg)

If I had the bread I'd pay it. I feel the end result product is worth it. I'd be ripping it too.

It's The Phantom Corsair. $$$

It also reminds me of that Toy he-man sword. The little one when you snapped the two halves together. Good memories. He man toys smell like heaven.

I fuckin love lady bugs too now I think about it. They keep me deep with wishes.

This to me is Top of the Top special product. I would definitely try to get a break on two if possible. Maybe 200 each?

That seems fair.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Cesspool86 on December 17, 2023, 04:21:28 PM
I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.

See if your grocery store has gulf wax in the canning supply aisle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 17, 2023, 06:02:55 PM
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I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.
[close]

See if your grocery store has gulf wax in the canning supply aisle

Sick thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on December 18, 2023, 03:31:18 AM
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.

here in France retail price should be around 180€-200€

It seems that shop is marking-up
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: breezy_again on December 18, 2023, 05:23:27 AM
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.
should be around $200 in the USA. anything more than that and you're getting price gouged. you might be able to find some shops doing less than 200 though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on December 18, 2023, 07:04:36 PM
not sure why i got curious about this, but, i've been wondering about woodshop history. mainly, when did bbs move to mexico and where was the shop before, bay area? also wondering about nhs boards before move to china? did they have their own factory and was it in santa cruz area?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2023, 07:39:51 PM
not sure why i got curious about this, but, i've been wondering about woodshop history. mainly, when did bbs move to mexico and where was the shop before, bay area? also wondering about nhs boards before move to china? did they have their own factory and was it in santa cruz area?



I would be curious to fill in some blanks there too, given I had tried to get as much info as possible from anywhere and everywhere to compile the info in the Woodshop thread, but there is always more out there that people know that often don't have written down or in any printed info anywhere.

Link here for the woodshop list, with year established and country of location too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104



I couldn't say for sure, but BBS (1996) seems to have had a pretty long history of boards from Mexico, but exactly when anything happened, I don't know.  Did the factory start there or in USA?


NHS I thought did everything in or around their location at one point, then started outsourcing more and more, to then change almost everything over to China, but I also don't have much info on things moving, more so just trucks and wheels around 2018, not so much boards, which I think were already being made elsewhere from mid 2000s.


PS Stix seemed to change around 2002 - 2003, or at least some of the boards I have from 2001 (still USA) and then 2004 (Mexico) but there could have been the different locations still going simultaneously for a while there too.


Any which way, I would be stoked to find out a bit more about any of those or other ones.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: devils acrobat on December 19, 2023, 10:20:13 AM
What happened to the Tim Pool thread that was up in UWTB today?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on December 19, 2023, 02:56:15 PM
What happened to the Tim Pool thread that was up in UWTB today?

that didn't last long! i thought "damn, neen's a superfan" with the personal and nadc follow. wonder if OP got some free footprints, quantums and 9 club yeti to nuke thread?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on December 19, 2023, 03:06:27 PM
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What happened to the Tim Pool thread that was up in UWTB today?
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that didn't last long! i thought "damn, neen's a superfan" with the personal and nadc follow. wonder if OP got some free footprints, quantums and 9 club yeti to nuke thread?

they probably landed a date with the real local joe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hayduke lives on December 19, 2023, 03:07:03 PM
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not sure why i got curious about this, but, i've been wondering about woodshop history. mainly, when did bbs move to mexico and where was the shop before, bay area? also wondering about nhs boards before move to china? did they have their own factory and was it in santa cruz area?
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I would be curious to fill in some blanks there too, given I had tried to get as much info as possible from anywhere and everywhere to compile the info in the Woodshop thread, but there is always more out there that people know that often don't have written down or in any printed info anywhere.

Link here for the woodshop list, with year established and country of location too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104



I couldn't say for sure, but BBS (1996) seems to have had a pretty long history of boards from Mexico, but exactly when anything happened, I don't know.  Did the factory start there or in USA?


NHS I thought did everything in or around their location at one point, then started outsourcing more and more, to then change almost everything over to China, but I also don't have much info on things moving, more so just trucks and wheels around 2018, not so much boards, which I think were already being made elsewhere from mid 2000s.


PS Stix seemed to change around 2002 - 2003, or at least some of the boards I have from 2001 (still USA) and then 2004 (Mexico) but there could have been the different locations still going simultaneously for a while there too.


Any which way, I would be stoked to find out a bit more about any of those or other ones.

did a bit more digging on this and 1996 seems right on bbs founding which begs another question. who did dlx wood before that? i have vague memory of knowing someone who worked "making boards" (not for dlx, maybe kayo?) around berkeley. guessing in retrospect that was likely just printing graphics. did find this little tidbit about bbs, some insight on equipment they use. https://www.papercutters.com/news/article/bbs-manufacturing-riding-on-air-of-productivity-with-new-pair-of-saber-paper-cutters
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Post by: Woodshop on December 19, 2023, 04:18:23 PM
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not sure why i got curious about this, but, i've been wondering about woodshop history. mainly, when did bbs move to mexico and where was the shop before, bay area? also wondering about nhs boards before move to china? did they have their own factory and was it in santa cruz area?
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I would be curious to fill in some blanks there too, given I had tried to get as much info as possible from anywhere and everywhere to compile the info in the Woodshop thread, but there is always more out there that people know that often don't have written down or in any printed info anywhere.

Link here for the woodshop list, with year established and country of location too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104



I couldn't say for sure, but BBS (1996) seems to have had a pretty long history of boards from Mexico, but exactly when anything happened, I don't know.  Did the factory start there or in USA?


NHS I thought did everything in or around their location at one point, then started outsourcing more and more, to then change almost everything over to China, but I also don't have much info on things moving, more so just trucks and wheels around 2018, not so much boards, which I think were already being made elsewhere from mid 2000s.


PS Stix seemed to change around 2002 - 2003, or at least some of the boards I have from 2001 (still USA) and then 2004 (Mexico) but there could have been the different locations still going simultaneously for a while there too.


Any which way, I would be stoked to find out a bit more about any of those or other ones.
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did a bit more digging on this and 1996 seems right on bbs founding which begs another question. who did dlx wood before that? i have vague memory of knowing someone who worked "making boards" (not for dlx, maybe kayo?) around berkeley. guessing in retrospect that was likely just printing graphics. did find this little tidbit about bbs, some insight on equipment they use. https://www.papercutters.com/news/article/bbs-manufacturing-riding-on-air-of-productivity-with-new-pair-of-saber-paper-cutters


That was a good read.

Thanks!


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Post by: devils acrobat on December 20, 2023, 12:54:08 AM
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What happened to the Tim Pool thread that was up in UWTB today?
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that didn't last long! i thought "damn, neen's a superfan" with the personal and nadc follow. wonder if OP got some free footprints, quantums and 9 club yeti to nuke thread?
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they probably landed a date with the real local joe

Thanks for the info. Sucks if threads are removed just like that. OP probably got cold feet or a box as you suggested.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: professional on December 20, 2023, 08:19:07 AM
do cored wheels have any real varying performance from standard wheels?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on December 20, 2023, 08:31:22 AM
do cored wheels have any real varying performance from standard wheels?

Definitely do for soft wheels, bearings seat better and less likely to become unseated.

Hard wheels bearing seat would be more consistent because plastic molding is more precise but I dunno if anyone can tell a performance difference there.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on December 20, 2023, 08:59:06 AM
BBS/ Generator, I think was So Cal, San Diego area pre Tijuana. For s time, the manufacturing may have been split between TJ and the CA.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on December 20, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
Bored thought at work

Any one try riding two different trucks? Obviously it seems dumb, but maybe there's some secret to having something like a thunder in the back and a venture-lo in the front, or whatever combo you think might "work"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on December 20, 2023, 12:31:52 PM
Bored thought at work

Any one try riding two different trucks? Obviously it seems dumb, but maybe there's some secret to having something like a thunder in the back and a venture-lo in the front, or whatever combo you think might "work"

You should DM Bam and ask since his last post exposed his Frankenstein set up of one Ace and one Thunder truck with the bushings cranked down like a MF haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on December 20, 2023, 01:10:44 PM
I got a set of thunders a while back and it seems like one set has longer axels than the other? On one set i can tighten it so that there is some axel poking out, while on the other set I can barely tighten it without stopping the wheel. Any advice on this?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on December 20, 2023, 01:27:38 PM
I got a set of thunders a while back and it seems like one set has longer axels than the other? On one set i can tighten it so that there is some axel poking out, while on the other set I can barely tighten it without stopping the wheel. Any advice on this?
Measure the axle. Take photo.
Measure the hangar. Take photo
Tighten bolts, take photo.

Email DLX and ask why the measurements are off for two of the same truck.

Don’t demand. Just be cool and show them the different lengths and ask if that’s normal.

If they say it’s normal, just try to live with it, and forevermore have madness and measure all the trucks before buying them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 21, 2023, 10:31:18 AM
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I got a set of thunders a while back and it seems like one set has longer axels than the other? On one set i can tighten it so that there is some axel poking out, while on the other set I can barely tighten it without stopping the wheel. Any advice on this?
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Measure the axle. Take photo.
Measure the hangar. Take photo
Tighten bolts, take photo.

Email DLX and ask why the measurements are off for two of the same truck.

Don’t demand. Just be cool and show them the different lengths and ask if that’s normal.

If they say it’s normal, just try to live with it, and forevermore have madness and measure all the trucks before buying them.

Also make sure your bearings are seated all the way. When in doubt remove the bearings and reseat just to make sure.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 21, 2023, 02:59:11 PM
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I got a set of thunders a while back and it seems like one set has longer axels than the other? On one set i can tighten it so that there is some axel poking out, while on the other set I can barely tighten it without stopping the wheel. Any advice on this?
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Measure the axle. Take photo.
Measure the hangar. Take photo
Tighten bolts, take photo.

Email DLX and ask why the measurements are off for two of the same truck.

Don’t demand. Just be cool and show them the different lengths and ask if that’s normal.

If they say it’s normal, just try to live with it, and forevermore have madness and measure all the trucks before buying them.
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Also make sure your bearings are seated all the way. When in doubt remove the bearings and reseat just to make sure.


Yes, had some wheels not want to seat bearings correctly, so the trucks didn't seem to line up or appeared to have axle slip, then when they went right in, everything worked nicely.


It is not uncommon for some trucks to have maybe 1 mm difference - I noticed quite a few trucks were ever so slightly offset, with the axle repeatedly sticking out to the same side, so whatever happened that day in the production was a little off, but not enough to really make too much difference.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 21, 2023, 05:31:04 PM
I wonder how axles still slip sometimes.

Don't all trucks have like a complex radius axle in them now?
You used to be able to pull them right out.... And not get them back in.
And
I remember like GK had a bur in there or whatever all the adds use to say they cured alxe slip.

I think there's a truck that has a hex section on their axles now too.

How would this stuff still happen
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on December 21, 2023, 07:17:30 PM
So i measured my trucks, axels and re seated my bearings. I used the bearing press at my shop so I know they were in right. Happened on multiple sets of wheels.

One truck measured 149, the other… 152. So it’s a 152 with an axel of a 149. Thus there is too much hangar and not enough space for the wheels.

Taking to thunder right now, probably will be taken care of.  Bummer cause i had some nice grooves coming in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on December 21, 2023, 08:51:29 PM
So i measured my trucks, axels and re seated my bearings. I used the bearing press at my shop so I know they were in right. Happened on multiple sets of wheels.

One truck measured 149, the other… 152. So it’s a 152 with an axel of a 149. Thus there is too much hangar and not enough space for the wheels.

Taking to thunder right now, probably will be taken care of.  Bummer cause i had some nice grooves coming in.

Cool, hope they treat you right.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 22, 2023, 12:57:38 AM
How long do you run trucks after you hit axle? I've got about an inch of axle showing on both trucks and crook + sw crook grooves. Feels fine for the most part, but wondering if its causing some of my slip outs/bad lock ins on ledges...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank Sobotka on December 22, 2023, 10:13:13 AM
What is a deck with steep kicks good for? I got an Enjoi deck not so long ago because it was on sale dirt cheap, and it has steep kicks, much steeper than I would normally skate. I'm not usually too bothered by these things as I believe you just get used to it after a session or two, but it'd be nice to know what will benefit and hinder me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on December 22, 2023, 10:30:01 AM
What is a deck with steep kicks good for? I got an Enjoi deck not so long ago because it was on sale dirt cheap, and it has steep kicks, much steeper than I would normally skate. I'm not usually too bothered by these things as I believe you just get used to it after a session or two, but it'd be nice to know what will benefit and hinder me.

potentially slower, but higher pop. some flips might feel better coming off a steep nose... I bet it would help with those snappy, end-over-end style 360 flips. impossibles?

personally i loved doing crooks on something like a Hockey nose, but i could see others not digging that.

i'm also not good enough that i would matter too much either way, mostly a comfortable vs uncomfortable thing
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on December 22, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
How long do you run trucks after you hit axle? I've got about an inch of axle showing on both trucks and crook + sw crook grooves. Feels fine for the most part, but wondering if its causing some of my slip outs/bad lock ins on ledges...

You can uncover the top of the whole axle long before it snaps. It's a rite of passage
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 22, 2023, 12:29:03 PM
How long do you run trucks after you hit axle? I've got about an inch of axle showing on both trucks and crook + sw crook grooves. Feels fine for the most part, but wondering if its causing some of my slip outs/bad lock ins on ledges...

Could be. I run um till I'm sick of looking at it. I think the axle is faster than the hanger so I enjoy it.

Venture and Indy can run axles full exposed for a grip unless you jump down shit.

Back when I was jumping down shit I never saw axle because I was breaking baby truck kingpins and plates.

I save some of my axled 5.6 and my one set of 5.8s tho axle is heavily exposed on one truck of every set Just in case I have a loss. Or I need the 5.8. I rarely axle the front truck so I just can build a decent set of 5.6s or I can just replace the one 5.8 and keep going if nee be.

5.8 is 1fuckinthousand percent the greatest trucks ever made.  I need to remive that shit one more time

I tried to photo my used truck shrine but imgbb is down rn

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 22, 2023, 12:38:14 PM
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How long do you run trucks after you hit axle? I've got about an inch of axle showing on both trucks and crook + sw crook grooves. Feels fine for the most part, but wondering if its causing some of my slip outs/bad lock ins on ledges...
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You can uncover the top of the whole axle long before it snaps. It's a rite of passage

Yeah I know, I'm talking about it anyone notices it affecting their skating not whether it breaks or not. The hanger isn't flat anymore but kinda concave, plus the kingpin catches more. Mainly an issue for ledges n flatbars, slappies dont matter
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Post by: Pastasash on December 22, 2023, 01:58:50 PM
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How long do you run trucks after you hit axle? I've got about an inch of axle showing on both trucks and crook + sw crook grooves. Feels fine for the most part, but wondering if its causing some of my slip outs/bad lock ins on ledges...
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You can uncover the top of the whole axle long before it snaps. It's a rite of passage
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Yeah I know, I'm talking about it anyone notices it affecting their skating not whether it breaks or not. The hanger isn't flat anymore but kinda concave, plus the kingpin catches more. Mainly an issue for ledges n flatbars, slappies dont matter

On my last set of stage 11 Indys that were USA made they lasted forever even after hitting axle and having a hairline crack underneath the groove, I was on it for a few good weeks not much issues until I lost that set up  :'( But then hitting axel on 5.8 Ventures I tried to stretch a few more sessions still and I could make it work on flatbars/ledges but it dragged so bad and couldn't get it to go on transition coping so ditched em. Those were the last two trucks I had that hit axel, but on average I'd say best could go two weeks without hating it maybe.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 22, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
Yeah I don't like looking at the back 50 Gullwing groove sometimes.

New trucks are better than old trucks.... But old bushings are the best
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on December 22, 2023, 02:50:29 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on December 22, 2023, 03:27:44 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

i like these dickies shorts, the length sits just at the knee and slides over easy when i crouch to pop

https://www.dickies.com/work-shorts/loose-fit-flat-front-work-shorts-13/42283.html

those or the plethora of volcom chino shorts are my go-to's
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on December 22, 2023, 04:10:13 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

I think you can't go wrong with basic, solid color shorts from the major brands like J Crew. I've haven't set foot into J Crew store in a least a decade, but I've probably ended up with four or five pairs of their shorts from various thrift store. One can imagine that right now, in the northern hemisphere, is a great time to shop for shorts.
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on December 22, 2023, 04:46:50 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

All my favorite jorts are just my favorite jeans I took to the tailor and had them hemmed. Mostly Carhartt or dickies jeans that got sort of old. It varies obviously but the dry cleaner down the street does it for $8
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 22, 2023, 06:08:52 PM
some sweat joints.....
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Post by: oak leaf on December 23, 2023, 06:54:22 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

i skate in bathing suits that look like shorts because the summer is brutal and they dry so fast

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on December 23, 2023, 09:56:50 PM
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god i hate jorts
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i skate in bathing suits that look like shorts because the summer is brutal and they dry so fast
Arizona, Nevada, or Texas?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on December 24, 2023, 09:16:50 AM
anyone skate trackers?
what is their calling card
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Post by: biaherl on December 24, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
anyone skate trackers?
what is their calling card

"Be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good (Johnny)
Be good, be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good
Be good, be good, be good" (Johnny)
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Post by: biaherl on December 24, 2023, 06:44:20 PM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

Red Kap
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Post by: Síota on December 25, 2023, 12:00:14 AM
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god i hate jorts
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i like these dickies shorts, the length sits just at the knee and slides over easy when i crouch to pop

https://www.dickies.com/work-shorts/loose-fit-flat-front-work-shorts-13/42283.html

those or the plethora of volcom chino shorts are my go-to's

Them Dickies rule. The extra pocket on the right leg is so handy also. The more you wear them the softer they get, but still last forever.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 25, 2023, 07:35:48 AM
Carhartt Men's Rugged Professional Relaxed Fit Canvas Short https://a.co/d/eeosLCs

The only issue is the QC is super inconsistent so you gotta order like 3 pairs and keep the one that fits the best.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on December 27, 2023, 08:04:22 AM
Between length and wb which impacts 360 flips more? My current Gx1000 8.38 seems to pop higher for me than my previous 8.25 FA however I'm finding 360 flips a lot harder and more tiring to get the rotation
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Post by: Frank and Fred on December 27, 2023, 08:25:40 AM
WB is likely a more important factor than overall length in tre flips but tail length and tail shape play a role also.
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Post by: manysnakes on December 27, 2023, 08:35:56 AM
Yeah, there are really too many variables to make a declarative statement, but I've found that shorter boards with smaller wheelbase work better for me. I think a tall skater with long femurs might not find this to be the case at all.

For whatever it's worth, the best all-around kickflipping deck I've ever owned was probably the Crail Loveseat shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 27, 2023, 10:18:59 AM
what kind of shorts do yall skate in (no jorts)
god i hate jorts

Wrangler is always a safe bet. All products. They have that U crotch construction that's near impossible to beat.
All my favorite shorts and pants was made by them.

But Im a fool for button flies.
I believe nothing is sexier than button flys on ALL HUMANS. It does not matter what you got in there it's way more exciting to unbutton that shit than unzip it.

Details are what matters.

Think about it. Pop.... Pop.... Pop... Pop.... Oooooooooooooo.
Vs Zip ooooo.

Zippers hurt and are a bitch to fix too.

So my absolute #1 is short black or indigo 501s original fit but I'm altering that fit within 10 wears.

Or I'm just going with these

(https://i.ibb.co/LdQZrPm/17036990743292810345511605388487.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whJz7LV)
(https://i.ibb.co/SRWY0nV/17036991066013711793630559939801.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dG1C62k)

Battle dress uniform 65% polyester 35% cotton sb78995.

I rock the pants then I cut them at the middle of the knee.
They button fly but they're built for speed dressing.


I'm in a bad mood today.

Everything is war today  :-\

WEAR BUTTON FLYS BE NICE TO YOURE JUNK
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on December 27, 2023, 10:26:57 AM
why come hockey hasn't issued graphics taken from the screen grab of the opening heist in the movie heat?
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Post by: Frank and Fred on December 27, 2023, 10:46:33 AM
why come hockey hasn't issued graphics taken from the screen grab of the opening heist in the movie heat?

They could do a Twin Tail AA board with Deniro on one tail and Pacino on the other!

Maybe a MM for Michael Man for a top graphic. Damn, I need a new job...
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on December 27, 2023, 11:39:16 AM
why come hockey hasn't issued graphics taken from the screen grab of the opening heist in the movie heat?

Not that it's stopped brands in the past, but copyright issues.
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Post by: jakeumms on December 27, 2023, 12:33:31 PM
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why come hockey hasn't issued graphics taken from the screen grab of the opening heist in the movie heat?
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They could do a Twin Tail AA board with Deniro on one tail and Pacino on the other!

Maybe a MM for Michael Man for a top graphic. Damn, I need a new job...
They even shot Heat in a skate graphic friendly aspect ratio. Just take any screengrab from the first heist scene boom it's a Hockey graphic. Maybe it's just too on the nose?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on December 29, 2023, 07:11:50 PM
Are dipped boards still bad? Thinking of grabbing a dipped Heroin but in high school the two dipped boards I rode felt shitty and soft and like price point boards in disguise which put me off forever.
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Post by: JM on December 29, 2023, 08:03:31 PM
Between length and wb which impacts 360 flips more? My current Gx1000 8.38 seems to pop higher for me than my previous 8.25 FA however I'm finding 360 flips a lot harder and more tiring to get the rotation
WB.

Think of how much weight is from your trucks vs. the nose or tail.

It’s going to take way more energy to move the board around the further the trucks are out from the center. 

If you haven’t before, watch some Ben Degros videos. He breaks all the physics type stuff down really well… and it’s stuff I wish I knew about when I was younger.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on December 29, 2023, 09:55:41 PM
does boiling bushings actually soften them?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on December 30, 2023, 02:34:58 AM
Between length and wb which impacts 360 flips more? My current Gx1000 8.38 seems to pop higher for me than my previous 8.25 FA however I'm finding 360 flips a lot harder and more tiring to get the rotation

it might not answer your question but these videos can give you some food for thought

https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick (https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick)

wheelbase video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lebp62IYZNo
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on December 30, 2023, 04:07:41 AM
WB likely has more of a direct effect than length for 360 flips. I say this because kick steepness, kick length, and overall concave give you leverage to perform 360 flips the way you desire, but a WB that is too long will almost always negate the rest of the leverage you're exerting to perform the 360 flip. Inversely, shorter WB will likely make the 360 flip whip around much faster while exerting the leverage I previously mentioned.

My personal experience is anecdotal, so I could be completely off but my own logic led me to this conclusion after trying WB from 13.75 up to 14.63 and leading me to find my ideal range is 14.25 - 14.5. At 5' 10" with longer legs than torso this checks out
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Curbfiend on December 30, 2023, 05:22:52 AM
Are dipped boards still bad? Thinking of grabbing a dipped Heroin but in high school the two dipped boards I rode felt shitty and soft and like price point boards in disguise which put me off forever.

Depends on the company. I got a swampy pro model egg from heroin thats dipped black and it feels just as good as any other heroin board ive ridden in the past.
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Post by: goodatmeth on December 30, 2023, 06:07:39 AM
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it might not answer your question but these videos can give you some food for thought

https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick (https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick)

wheelbase video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lebp62IYZNo
The dude behind these videos is bad at both skating and physics
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on December 30, 2023, 06:29:37 AM
WB likely has more of a direct effect than length for 360 flips. I say this because kick steepness, kick length, and overall concave give you leverage to perform 360 flips the way you desire, but a WB that is too long will almost always negate the rest of the leverage you're exerting to perform the 360 flip. Inversely, shorter WB will likely make the 360 flip whip around much faster while exerting the leverage I previously mentioned.

My personal experience is anecdotal, so I could be completely off but my own logic led me to this conclusion after trying WB from 13.75 up to 14.63 and leading me to find my ideal range is 14.25 - 14.5. At 5' 10" with longer legs than torso this checks out

i like your reasoning, it doesn’t square with my lived experience.
i learned 360 flips in the 7.5 era. 7.5x14x31.
i’ve since messed around with setups so much i don’t know what is my ideal range, but there seems to me, to be some more information that i don’t have related to possibly tail length, setup height to length and weight ratios….because i’ve had some huge weird setups (9x14.75x32.5+ on 169s) 360 flip at least as well as the small boards. and i’m a short person with even shorter legs.
i’m not sure wb is as important as it’s been made to be. i don’t know what the more important answer is, maybe overall length is more important, i don’t know.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on December 30, 2023, 07:57:16 AM
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Between length and wb which impacts 360 flips more? My current Gx1000 8.38 seems to pop higher for me than my previous 8.25 FA however I'm finding 360 flips a lot harder and more tiring to get the rotation
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it might not answer your question but these videos can give you some food for thought

https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick (https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick)

wheelbase video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lebp62IYZNo
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The dude behind these videos is bad at both skating and physics
i would not say his skateboarding is bad
who would take physics lessons from a pro skateboarder anyway ?
the interesting part is the modeling and mechanical reasoning here

care to elaborate about him being bad at physics ? i don't see it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on December 30, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
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Between length and wb which impacts 360 flips more? My current Gx1000 8.38 seems to pop higher for me than my previous 8.25 FA however I'm finding 360 flips a lot harder and more tiring to get the rotation
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it might not answer your question but these videos can give you some food for thought

https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick (https://www.youtube.com/@whythetrick)

wheelbase video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lebp62IYZNo
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The dude behind these videos is bad at both skating and physics
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i would not say his skateboarding is bad
who would take physics lessons from a pro skateboarder anyway ?
the interesting part is the modeling and mechanical reasoning here

care to elaborate about him being bad at physics ? i don't see it.
It was a video about wheel size that made me unsubscribe. He talked about weight difference, modeled the extra weight of much bigger wheels as spread evenly over the board and concluded that the difference is negligible.
How can you skate and say there's basically no difference between riding 50 and 54mm wheels? And it's not even about the weight, pop feel is the main change that needs to be mentioned.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 31, 2023, 01:07:03 PM
Are dipped boards still bad? Thinking of grabbing a dipped Heroin but in high school the two dipped boards I rode felt shitty and soft and like price point boards in disguise which put me off forever.


Once I had figured out that it seemed most if not all dipped boards were the all natural / price point feeling wood, I stopped getting them too.  I am thinking Black Label on PS Stix back in the mid 2000s where people had barely scratched graphics and came back in due to board breakage, same on one I skated, just as examples of that era and I didn't break boards much during that time at all.

More recently though, especially from some different woodshops, they have been good, example FA / Hockey boards were still the usual wood, some stained just like the normal ones and no issues, as were some Birdhouse shaped boards, which had top and bottom stains, full dip in white, blue and red. 

I also have a second hand Heroin Mutant egg variation deck that is holding up well, full green paint, I think on all natural ply, so you should be good there.

Definitely different product than what was around before.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on January 02, 2024, 07:51:42 AM
Anyone know what's up with HUF? The EU shop is gone now and they try to get you to order from the states with insane shipping now..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: apbarbs on January 04, 2024, 06:35:18 AM
i've never been able to switch flip or switch heel
i can kickflip consistently and heelflips depend on the day
have an ok switch ollie, on a good day can go up and down the 3

not really making any progress on learning to flip my board switch, it rarely does the flip
i'm on 8.25 with medium trucks

is it dumb to try skating e.g. an 8 with tight trucks just to try to learn these? or should i just suck it up and chalk it all up to needing to refine the technique?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on January 04, 2024, 08:08:54 AM
i've never been able to switch flip or switch heel
i can kickflip consistently and heelflips depend on the day
have an ok switch ollie, on a good day can go up and down the 3

not really making any progress on learning to flip my board switch, it rarely does the flip
i'm on 8.25 with medium trucks

is it dumb to try skating e.g. an 8 with tight trucks just to try to learn these? or should i just suck it up and chalk it all up to needing to refine the technique?

i can land switch flips, i’ve never self filmed and im sure id be so bummed if i saw my results….but i do land them, maybe more than regular.
i skate a lot of different setups. last time out i had. 7.5 with 5.0 lo’s, and an 8.38 with 6.1s. switch flip was easier on the larger board. significantly. this isn’t a one-off realization for me, they’ve generally felt that way. i use more of the board for the flip, im doing the opposite of the nyjah foot placement, my flicking foot is deep onto the board.
again, i am positive mine are grotesque, but they do ‘work’,  not sure if this is at all helpful.

now tighter trucks can certainly be helpful, less with the flicking, more with the stability right through the popping segment of the trick. i remember my arches cramping so bad when i learned switch flips. a lot of it is just the stability riding into it.

shortened version: buy some new shit if you want, i’ve bought whole completes just to treflip, but you might win the battle and lose the war. possibly
try tightening your trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on January 04, 2024, 09:05:20 AM
After puffin muffin's post about slap stickers /helping skaters in Ukraine. I was wondering if anyone knows of a charity there like SkatePal, as I've got heaps of stuff I could donate (decks, wheels etc).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 04, 2024, 10:38:49 AM
Anyone know what's up with HUF? The EU shop is gone now and they try to get you to order from the states with insane shipping now..

I love love love Huf the skater but have been long surprised at the durability of the HUF brand. Maybe without Keith, it's finally over?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on January 04, 2024, 11:48:35 AM
I found this long dead truck company that I never heard of. I don't have FB so I cant see the product images. Can anyone post them for me?

https://www.facebook.com/green.trucks.7/?show_switched_toast=0&show_invite_to_follow=0&show_switched_tooltip=0&show_podcast_settings=0&show_community_review_changes=0&show_community_rollback=0&show_follower_visibility_disclosure=0
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on January 04, 2024, 02:13:01 PM
I found this long dead truck company that I never heard of. I don't have FB so I cant see the product images. Can anyone post them for me?

https://www.facebook.com/green.trucks.7/?show_switched_toast=0&show_invite_to_follow=0&show_switched_tooltip=0&show_podcast_settings=0&show_community_review_changes=0&show_community_rollback=0&show_follower_visibility_disclosure=0

I don't have facebook either but I do like to sluth. This is the best I could do at work

https://stores.allnightcatfight.com/green-truck-company-stealth-model-in-black-5-25s-8-axle-highs-set/

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-kj559mx/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/507/1098/IMG_0966__05728.1575865512.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on January 04, 2024, 03:30:12 PM
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I found this long dead truck company that I never heard of. I don't have FB so I cant see the product images. Can anyone post them for me?

https://www.facebook.com/green.trucks.7/?show_switched_toast=0&show_invite_to_follow=0&show_switched_tooltip=0&show_podcast_settings=0&show_community_review_changes=0&show_community_rollback=0&show_follower_visibility_disclosure=0
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I don't have facebook either but I do like to sluth. This is the best I could do at work

https://stores.allnightcatfight.com/green-truck-company-stealth-model-in-black-5-25s-8-axle-highs-set/

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-kj559mx/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/507/1098/IMG_0966__05728.1575865512.jpg?c=2)

Thanks for that,

Pretty of the shelf truck. I saw they had a recycled truck program and they were trying to be environmentally conscious truck brand.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 05, 2024, 02:21:30 AM
Checking a Gall 8.25 Metal board. Are those kinda squared?
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Post by: Jogging José on January 05, 2024, 03:39:14 AM
Checking a Gall 8.25 Metal board. Are those kinda squared?

The Metal 8.25 are about as squared as Fa/Hockey but a lot less steep in the kicks. Great shape! Also, as a fellow European I want to inform you, that the Alien Workshop Fred Gall Black Widow from China are not the same as the Metal Fred Gall (although AW said so on Insta) - the Chinese Decks are longer, steeper and have longer Wheelbase…

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Post by: moonordie on January 05, 2024, 03:49:02 AM
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Checking a Gall 8.25 Metal board. Are those kinda squared?
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The Metal 8.25 are about as squared as Fa/Hockey but a lot less steep in the kicks. Great shape! Also, as a fellow European I want to inform you, that the Alien Workshop Fred Gall Black Widow from China are not the same as the Metal Fred Gall (although AW said so on Insta) - the Chinese Decks are longer, steeper and have longer Wheelbase…
Ty for the reply, you saved me a trip to the skateshop since I don't like FA/Hockey shape at all. Gnar for you kind sir.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 05, 2024, 12:19:19 PM
Does any company make the skate mental curren caples 9" egg now that curren left sm?
NOT the crail loveseat, it's close or even equal on paper but so much worse for me because of the stupid amount of flat after the bolts.
Quasi egg is not right either
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 05, 2024, 02:24:03 PM
Does any company make the skate mental curren caples 9" egg now that curren left sm?
NOT the crail loveseat, it's close or even equal on paper but so much worse for me because of the stupid amount of flat after the bolts.
Quasi egg is not right either


I hadn't looked into them before, but from doing a bit of a search, they are now BBS wood, some listings showing 9.0 x 32 with 14.25 wb, while others have it as shorter wb, some 14 and some 13.8 or so.

Does that seem fairly consistent with the boards you have had?


I am guessing that there are still a number of them out there, probably now on sale / clearance so how many could you snap up and how long would that last you per board?


As far as others, I haven't really looked that hard, but the DLX 9.1 or 9.12 egg could be similar, although I don't know if that is a common board any more.

Where ever he goes next, he might do that same shape, so you could stock up now and hopefully in a bit, there will be more of them out sooner or later.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 05, 2024, 02:38:17 PM
Does any company make the skate mental curren caples 9" egg now that curren left sm?
NOT the crail loveseat, it's close or even equal on paper but so much worse for me because of the stupid amount of flat after the bolts.
Quasi egg is not right either
What are the dims?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 05, 2024, 03:14:04 PM
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Does any company make the skate mental curren caples 9" egg now that curren left sm?
NOT the crail loveseat, it's close or even equal on paper but so much worse for me because of the stupid amount of flat after the bolts.
Quasi egg is not right either
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What are the dims?


Yeah I am curious too, is it really 9 x 32 with 13.88 wb?


Said it was the same dimensions as the Loveseat, which is this:

G055:
9" x 32"
Wheelbase: 13.875"
Nose: 7.125"
Tail: 6.8"

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 06, 2024, 06:21:45 AM
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Does any company make the skate mental curren caples 9" egg now that curren left sm?
NOT the crail loveseat, it's close or even equal on paper but so much worse for me because of the stupid amount of flat after the bolts.
Quasi egg is not right either
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What are the dims?
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Yeah I am curious too, is it really 9 x 32 with 13.88 wb?


Said it was the same dimensions as the Loveseat, which is this:

G055:
9" x 32"
Wheelbase: 13.875"
Nose: 7.125"
Tail: 6.8"
Just measured mine (in centimeter and converted), which is used by now:
Width: 9"
Length: 31.97"
Wheelbase: 13.84"
Nose: 7.3"
Tail: 6.97"

*All measurements without pushing the tape into the concave.
I love this deck so much even though I'm used to small 6.6" (twin) tails and noses.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 06, 2024, 09:28:04 PM
I wanna make a skateboard chair. Anyone ever build one here?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 07, 2024, 05:14:40 AM
Does anyone know if Dancer goods are made in the same factory as Magenta? I’m eying some of the pants since they’re running a sale However, I got a pair of Magenta loose pants in ripstop for a gift to someone. He didn’t even skate in them and has three holes in them, after 2.5 months.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Esquivel on January 07, 2024, 04:46:54 PM
Does anyone know if Dancer goods are made in the same factory as Magenta? I’m eying some of the pants since they’re running a sale However, I got a pair of Magenta loose pants in ripstop for a gift to someone. He didn’t even skate in them and has three holes in them, after 2.5 months.

Maybe your friend smokes lots of hash and is careless with blimp burns.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pasta Monster on January 08, 2024, 07:12:57 AM
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Does anyone know if Dancer goods are made in the same factory as Magenta? I’m eying some of the pants since they’re running a sale However, I got a pair of Magenta loose pants in ripstop for a gift to someone. He didn’t even skate in them and has three holes in them, after 2.5 months.
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Maybe your friend smokes lots of hash and is careless with blimp burns.
Nah, my dad is over 70 and doesn’t do much except read news and play sudoku. These were the ripstop. I have a pair of non-ripstop ones that are over two years old.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 08, 2024, 07:37:44 AM
I wanted to make an easy resource for people to know what the differences in all the trucks were
I am thinking of making an image that is easily shareable on phones 480 x 800 resolution

anyway before I do that, I just wanted to know specifically if anyone knows what the height is on Ace Trucks Lows. I see on the Ace Trucks sizing chart, they list them at 49mm, but then Tactics lists them ranging from 43-45mm in height. I noticed they also list AF1s as 52mm in height and classics @ 53mm in height which is 1 and 2mm lower than what Ace claims on their website. I have heard a lot of people say the ace trucks website is not a good resource so just wanted to see if anyone can confirm.

Does anyone see any issues with this list? Based off of Thunder Trucks and Tactics websites, and also I used @rocklobster measurements (apprx) for my Venture heights:

Ace af1 low: 43-45mm

Venture Low: 47mm forged, 48mm cast

Thunder small (up to 147 - 8”)
49mm forged, 50mm cast

Thunder medium (148, 149, 151 8.75”) : 51mm forged, 52mm cast

Ace AF1: 52mm

Indy mid: 52mm

Indy forged: 53.5mm

Ace classic 53mm

Thunder Large (161): 53mm

Venture high
: 52 mm forged 53mm cast

Slappy :54mm

Indy standard: 55mm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on January 08, 2024, 08:05:25 AM
I wanted to make an easy resource for people to know what the differences in all the trucks were
I am thinking of making an image that is easily shareable on phones 480 x 800 resolution

anyway before I do that, I just wanted to know specifically if anyone knows what the height is on Ace Trucks Lows. I see on the Ace Trucks sizing chart, they list them at 49mm, but then Tactics lists them ranging from 43-45mm in height. I noticed they also list AF1s as 52mm in height and classics @ 53mm in height which is 1 and 2mm lower than what Ace claims on their website. I have heard a lot of people say the ace trucks website is not a good resource so just wanted to see if anyone can confirm.

Does anyone see any issues with this list? Based off of Thunder Trucks and Tactics websites, and also I used @rocklobster measurements (apprx) for my Venture heights:

Ace af1 low: 43-45mm

Venture Low: 47mm forged, 48mm cast

Thunder small (up to 147 - 8”)
49mm forged, 50mm cast

Thunder medium (148, 149, 151 8.75”) 51mm forged, 52mm cast

Ace AF1: 52mm

Indy mid: 52mm

Indy forged: 53.5mm

Ace classic 53mm

Thunder 161: 53mm

Venture high: 52 mm forged 53mm cast

Slappy 54mm

Indy standard 55mm

Your Ace data seems off. Here are the correct heights (and yes, the Ace website gives the wrong info):

Ace Classics 52 mm 
Ace AF1 53 mm
Ace AF1 Low 49 mm
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Maccat on January 08, 2024, 09:05:20 AM
What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on January 08, 2024, 09:15:20 AM
What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.

Splined pins are absolutely intended the last the life of the truck, hence the press-fit nature of them. To get a kingpin out, you need some sort of anvil with a hole in the bottom. The easiest way I’ve found is to set it on a bench vise with the jaws open enough for the pin to pass through. From there, you carefully hammer out the pin with a few well-placed blows.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on January 08, 2024, 10:37:59 AM
late 90's early 2000's every shop had a hammer and a spot to hammer out your broken Indy kingpin and a drawer full of new Indy kingpins
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Still_ill on January 08, 2024, 11:06:07 AM
Does anyone know if Dancer goods are made in the same factory as Magenta? I’m eying some of the pants since they’re running a sale However, I got a pair of Magenta loose pants in ripstop for a gift to someone. He didn’t even skate in them and has three holes in them, after 2.5 months.

I got two pairs of the Dancer “ripstop” pants on sale and put a hole in one pair the first day I wore them on a pretty light bail.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: h00man on January 08, 2024, 11:54:17 AM
does anyone know if Diamond is still making hardware? I went to their site and the only item under their hardgoods is a deck.

Also, imagine buying an NFT Diamond dunk. Dumb.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 08, 2024, 05:12:21 PM
does anyone know if Diamond is still making hardware? I went to their site and the only item under their hardgoods is a deck.

Also, imagine buying an NFT Diamond dunk. Dumb.


From checking their online presence, I think they are done.

People asking about purchases from months ago on their instagram and mostly everything else on clearance.


Whatever you see remaining in stock is all there is.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Esquivel on January 09, 2024, 09:48:39 AM
What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.

If it is only the length of the kingpin that bothers you (I assume because of ground down hangers), why not try to file down the excess length of the pin? You can use an angle grinder for extra-fast results. Just make sure that you have the nut on the pin (can use it as a limit) so that it works as a re-threader when you unscrew it out to clear up the edge/thread. Also, if you go the angle grinder way, keep in mind that less is more. I ground down a set of pins to the point that the trucks felt too tight, even with soft bushings on. Amazing kingpin clearance and all...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on January 09, 2024, 11:38:16 AM
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What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.
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If it is only the length of the kingpin that bothers you (I assume because of ground down hangers), why not try to file down the excess length of the pin? You can use an angle grinder for extra-fast results. Just make sure that you have the nut on the pin (can use it as a limit) so that it works as a re-threader when you unscrew it out to clear up the edge/thread. Also, if you go the angle grinder way, keep in mind that less is more. I ground down a set of pins to the point that the trucks felt too tight, even with soft bushings on. Amazing kingpin clearance and all...
A hacksaw appropriate for cutting metal might be cleaner and allow the nut to still be screwed off (since I imagine using a file on the kingpin might create so harsh edge on the thread).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on January 09, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949345596253298798/1194382625972948992/truck_heights.png?ex=65b02680&is=659db180&hm=c970bc2c24ab9b92c47605cab21637fc628f33a91b352272868252f6335bfb5f&)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 09, 2024, 03:43:11 PM
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What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.
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If it is only the length of the kingpin that bothers you (I assume because of ground down hangers), why not try to file down the excess length of the pin? You can use an angle grinder for extra-fast results. Just make sure that you have the nut on the pin (can use it as a limit) so that it works as a re-threader when you unscrew it out to clear up the edge/thread. Also, if you go the angle grinder way, keep in mind that less is more. I ground down a set of pins to the point that the trucks felt too tight, even with soft bushings on. Amazing kingpin clearance and all...
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A hacksaw appropriate for cutting metal might be cleaner and allow the nut to still be screwed off (since I imagine using a file on the kingpin might create so harsh edge on the thread).



I must have missed this on the first round, but this is something I do a lot of adjustments to, but to note, people have fairly easily hammered out kingpins from almost all brands of trucks, more often with a custom jig they have set up to hold the baseplate in place and getting it on just the right angle, as per this instagram account:


https://www.instagram.com/fuckwithyourtrucks/




If the kingpin is solid, threads down through it not messed up and still works but is too high, don't try to take it out, just angle grind it down, as others said above.

A gentle hand with an angle grinder is the best way I found to fix any kingpin issues.  Never go too hard straight down, but do a little one side, then the other, round it off and you won't even catch any threads when taking the kingpin nut off and putting it back on.

I still keep a kingpin rethreader handy anyway, cause sometimes it just needs a little extra help, but usually I have the truck set up with cut down or low top bushings on kingpins that need more clearance, then go at it, a bit at a time, not heating up the kiingpin too much, taking it down to approximately where I need it, but not too much either.

People have cooked the nyloc from the nut and melted bushings going too hard and causing it to heat up too much when grinding, so just note that too.


I can't even think how many boards / sets of trucks I have done this to, more often than not for people (and my own boards) where the trucks have been worn down to the point of the kingpin being annoying or dangerous in how tall it now sits in relation to the hanger,

The process is fairly simple, way easier than trying to take a kingpin out and putting in an inverted kingpin and doesn't have any of the issues with inverted kinpgins coming loose, breaking out of the baseplate or whatever other problems people have with them.

Just the cost of a few spare kingpin nuts if you do need to change them out.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 09, 2024, 05:23:28 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949345596253298798/1194382625972948992/truck_heights.png?ex=65b02680&is=659db180&hm=c970bc2c24ab9b92c47605cab21637fc628f33a91b352272868252f6335bfb5f&)

Love it, saving that to my phone for future reference.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on January 09, 2024, 06:04:41 PM
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What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.
[close]

If it is only the length of the kingpin that bothers you (I assume because of ground down hangers), why not try to file down the excess length of the pin? You can use an angle grinder for extra-fast results. Just make sure that you have the nut on the pin (can use it as a limit) so that it works as a re-threader when you unscrew it out to clear up the edge/thread. Also, if you go the angle grinder way, keep in mind that less is more. I ground down a set of pins to the point that the trucks felt too tight, even with soft bushings on. Amazing kingpin clearance and all...
what bushings did you use
and how long until they crumbled
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chatbot on January 10, 2024, 03:05:59 AM
Anyone try the “Pop Secret” decks from Crailtap? I’m usually not one to buy into gimmicks but I’m curious if anyone noticed any major benefits compared to their standard decks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Esquivel on January 10, 2024, 07:43:59 AM
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What’s your process to remove a kingpin?

I feel like these splined ones are meant to die with the baseplate; never had this issue with pins prior to that that a hammer couldn’t fix.

I’m seriously think sledge style.

I’ve got so many trucks where if I could flip the pin to a shorter one I could extend the life of the truck.
[close]

If it is only the length of the kingpin that bothers you (I assume because of ground down hangers), why not try to file down the excess length of the pin? You can use an angle grinder for extra-fast results. Just make sure that you have the nut on the pin (can use it as a limit) so that it works as a re-threader when you unscrew it out to clear up the edge/thread. Also, if you go the angle grinder way, keep in mind that less is more. I ground down a set of pins to the point that the trucks felt too tight, even with soft bushings on. Amazing kingpin clearance and all...
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what bushings did you use
and how long until they crumbled

Independent conical. I think they were clear blue and advertised as 90 durometer but that was 10 years ago so I might be wrong. The height of the bottom (board side) bushing was the same as the ones that came with the trucks, although those were barrel shape. The bushings did not crumble but they went really mushy so they would not snap back to centre. I was skating in temperatures of ~40 C.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on January 10, 2024, 08:47:20 AM
Anyone try the “Pop Secret” decks from Crailtap? I’m usually not one to buy into gimmicks but I’m curious if anyone noticed any major benefits compared to their standard decks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRuT3xwerc&ab_channel=BenDegros

I didn't ride one, but my local ripper told me they were too heavy even for him. Spent a few minutes on it and it was painfully stiff, even stiffer than a fresh DSM deck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: apbarbs on January 11, 2024, 05:50:09 AM
i watched a recent skate video in december that used Alice in Chains - Nutshell (Live at the Majestic Theatre, Brooklyn, NY - April 1996) - does anyone happen to remember what it was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgANjuSHDBc&ab_channel=AliceinChains-Topic
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: h00man on January 12, 2024, 12:40:10 AM
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does anyone know if Diamond is still making hardware? I went to their site and the only item under their hardgoods is a deck.

Also, imagine buying an NFT Diamond dunk. Dumb.
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From checking their online presence, I think they are done.

People asking about purchases from months ago on their instagram and mostly everything else on clearance.


Whatever you see remaining in stock is all there is.

lmao I just checked. jfc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ray C. Usery on January 12, 2024, 06:48:33 PM
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does anyone know if Diamond is still making hardware? I went to their site and the only item under their hardgoods is a deck.

Also, imagine buying an NFT Diamond dunk. Dumb.
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From checking their online presence, I think they are done.

People asking about purchases from months ago on their instagram and mostly everything else on clearance.


Whatever you see remaining in stock is all there is.
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lmao I just checked. jfc

Maybe the wheels fell off

(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/40/Diamond-Supply-Co-Skull-Tail-Grab-Pullover-Hoodie-Black-1.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 14, 2024, 08:18:33 PM
For Polar 93 denim, if I’m a size 34-36 waist, will their size 32 pants fit me? I’ve heard they run way bigger than usual
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on January 15, 2024, 10:07:54 AM
Today I fell on my knee wearing a pair of black Polar Surf pants. It wasn't bad or anything, but it did leave a light scuff/faded mark that's grey/white-ish. Is there any way to darken it so it's less noticeable? And yes, I already tried pissing on them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on January 15, 2024, 10:58:44 AM
Today I fell on my knee wearing a pair of black Polar Surf pants. It wasn't bad or anything, but it did leave a light scuff/faded mark that's grey/white-ish. Is there any way to darken it so it's less noticeable? And yes, I already tried pissing on them.

I think you're supposed to pee in them


You used to be able to buy this stuff everywhere. I would try a spot treatment if it's too much then dye the whole pants. It also might not take
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61--4M25lUL.jpg)


I like my pants with battle scars. I wouldn't dye them
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Vintagebody on January 15, 2024, 11:35:23 AM
I recently bought a Krooked Truefit 8.38 with 14" wb. Its a 1 press, and I dont get along with it at all. Too steep. Ghost pop etc. What you guys do in such scenario? I'm tempted to just go back to my old alltimers boards, which does have 14.38wb.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: djoekr on January 15, 2024, 11:36:02 AM
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Today I fell on my knee wearing a pair of black Polar Surf pants. It wasn't bad or anything, but it did leave a light scuff/faded mark that's grey/white-ish. Is there any way to darken it so it's less noticeable? And yes, I already tried pissing on them.
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I think you're supposed to pee in them


You used to be able to buy this stuff everywhere. I would try a spot treatment if it's too much then dye the whole pants. It also might not take
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61--4M25lUL.jpg)


I like my pants with battle scars. I wouldn't dye them

I'm the same with my skate pants, but I already ripped my previous ones and bought these because I like the fit and wanted a non-skated one to wear. Bought 'em like two weeks ago too and I wasn't even skating in them. It snowed today and apparently the road was frozen solid so I slammed riding my bicycle back home. Guess I got two Surf pants to skate in now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 15, 2024, 01:30:58 PM
I recently bought a Krooked Truefit 8.38 with 14" wb. Its a 1 press, and I dont get along with it at all. Too steep. Ghost pop etc. What you guys do in such scenario? I'm tempted to just go back to my old alltimers boards, which does have 14.38wb.

Trade that deck to a homie for a meal.
Give it to a kid with a thrashed deck.
Try to flatten the kicks and skate it.
Build a cruiser setup and cruise.
Get Ventures (don't get into the madness)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2024, 01:40:27 PM
I recently bought a Krooked Truefit 8.38 with 14" wb. Its a 1 press, and I dont get along with it at all. Too steep. Ghost pop etc. What you guys do in such scenario? I'm tempted to just go back to my old alltimers boards, which does have 14.38wb.


There are some people I know and others on here as well who realised that the Tru Fit was just too short for anything and everything for them, so they passed it on to someone else, often a smaller individual or child.

The thing with any board that is too steep in the kicks is you can drive over it or park on the kicks, graphic side up for a short time to flatten them out, which definitely works - I have done lots - but for some people, it just makes the board feel dead / soggy or doesn't work for them for other reasons, so take note of that and be very careful if you do try that.

I would tend to go with the sell it or pass it on approach, because I think you might not like it even if it was more mellow and at least that way you can recover some costs or make someone happy if you give it away.

That is my take on it anyway.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 16, 2024, 02:04:42 AM
I recently bought a Krooked Truefit 8.38 with 14" wb. Its a 1 press, and I dont get along with it at all. Too steep. Ghost pop etc. What you guys do in such scenario? I'm tempted to just go back to my old alltimers boards, which does have 14.38wb.
If you have a car run over the board
https://youtu.be/hVv53BA-vUc?si=vfv0U8aoKHb-YNLO
@4:04
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Vintagebody on January 16, 2024, 05:02:15 AM
Id rather just give it away then! I have to say I dont really enjoy DLX anymore. They are all rather steep.
Suggestions for more mellow decks? I guess I could measure the height of the tail and nose with the deck on the floor, as a guide.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Chatbot on January 16, 2024, 06:07:06 AM
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Anyone try the “Pop Secret” decks from Crailtap? I’m usually not one to buy into gimmicks but I’m curious if anyone noticed any major benefits compared to their standard decks.
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I didn't ride one, but my local ripper told me they were too heavy even for him. Spent a few minutes on it and it was painfully stiff, even stiffer than a fresh DSM deck.

Thanks, that was helpful. I did see a twin version for $65 which is only 5 more than a standard deck so I bought. I will report back although at this rate I won't be skating for atleast a month or so due to weather.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on January 16, 2024, 02:39:13 PM
This may be a very stupid question, so if so forgive me, but I'm trying to fix a warped deck. I have 2 of the same board, both new, one warped, one not. I'm hoping to get it as close to back to normal as I can. Would it be better if I took the warped board and put it on the bottom, then the non-warped one on top, then stacked a bunch of old decks on top? Or should I put the non-warped on the bottom, then the warped one on top of that, then stack the old decks on top of that? I'm not expecting to make it perfect, just hoping I can stack it to make the warping less severe. And should I put some extra weight on top of all the boards (books, etc)?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on January 16, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
This may be a very stupid question, so if so forgive me, but I'm trying to fix a warped deck. I have 2 of the same board, both new, one warped, one not. I'm hoping to get it as close to back to normal as I can. Would it be better if I took the warped board and put it on the bottom, then the non-warped one on top, then stacked a bunch of old decks on top? Or should I put the non-warped on the bottom, then the warped one on top of that, then stack the old decks on top of that? I'm not expecting to make it perfect, just hoping I can stack it to make the warping less severe. And should I put some extra weight on top of all the boards (books, etc)?
Paging Dr. @Mbrimson88
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 16, 2024, 04:13:51 PM
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This may be a very stupid question, so if so forgive me, but I'm trying to fix a warped deck. I have 2 of the same board, both new, one warped, one not. I'm hoping to get it as close to back to normal as I can. Would it be better if I took the warped board and put it on the bottom, then the non-warped one on top, then stacked a bunch of old decks on top? Or should I put the non-warped on the bottom, then the warped one on top of that, then stack the old decks on top of that? I'm not expecting to make it perfect, just hoping I can stack it to make the warping less severe. And should I put some extra weight on top of all the boards (books, etc)?
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Paging Dr. @Mbrimson88


Yep, got you covered on this one, thanks!


I thought I had posted this before, but couldn't find it, but I put it in the Woodshop thread, just so at least I know it has a home I can easily link again, rather than getting lost in any other thread, even though I checked the search option.

Link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4144275#msg4144275


Basically I offset the warp the other way and put heavy things on it, so sure you could just put a board under it and a lot of stuff on top, but by offsetting the warp, then it actually warps it back to very even.

Timeframe varies but sometimes a week or two, sometimes a month, from going back through a stack of boards I had discarded due to being warped and then tried this on a lot of different boards to see.

Hope that helps!


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Doosh215 on January 16, 2024, 04:44:20 PM
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This may be a very stupid question, so if so forgive me, but I'm trying to fix a warped deck. I have 2 of the same board, both new, one warped, one not. I'm hoping to get it as close to back to normal as I can. Would it be better if I took the warped board and put it on the bottom, then the non-warped one on top, then stacked a bunch of old decks on top? Or should I put the non-warped on the bottom, then the warped one on top of that, then stack the old decks on top of that? I'm not expecting to make it perfect, just hoping I can stack it to make the warping less severe. And should I put some extra weight on top of all the boards (books, etc)?
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Paging Dr. @Mbrimson88
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Yep, got you covered on this one, thanks!


I thought I had posted this before, but couldn't find it, but I put it in the Woodshop thread, just so at least I know it has a home I can easily link again, rather than getting lost in any other thread, even though I checked the search option.

Link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4144275#msg4144275


Basically I offset the warp the other way and put heavy things on it, so sure you could just put a board under it and a lot of stuff on top, but by offsetting the warp, then it actually warps it back to very even.

Timeframe varies but sometimes a week or two, sometimes a month, from going back through a stack of boards I had discarded due to being warped and then tried this on a lot of different boards to see.

Hope that helps!

Thanks it's greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Coastal Fever on January 17, 2024, 10:35:16 AM
When you guys buy decks to have on ice, do you pregrip them or wait until you’re setting them up?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2024, 10:46:09 AM
When you guys buy decks to have on ice, do you pregrip them or wait until you’re setting them up?

Wait.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2024, 10:49:00 AM
Has anyone traded product to a shop for something different?

Basically, I was gifted an Heroin Avi guest egg for my bday a few months back. I put it on ice as I had just set up a bigger (9.5") symmetrical egg and I kind of want to stay at that size. There are a ton of shops in LB/OC that carry Heroin, I just don't want to go in trying to trade if that's not a thing.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on January 17, 2024, 10:50:27 AM
Yes, but I have good rapport with the owners. It's worth a try but don't make an issue of it if they are reluctant.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on January 17, 2024, 04:33:00 PM
for those skating double drilled boards
when do you switch?
it sounds convenient but i cant picture doing that myself

would figure most people set their trucks up and go
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: skatebruh on January 17, 2024, 04:06:15 PM
Id rather just give it away then! I have to say I dont really enjoy DLX anymore. They are all rather steep.
Suggestions for more mellow decks? I guess I could measure the height of the tail and nose with the deck on the floor, as a guide.
How mellow do you want to go? Baker/Deathwish OG shapes feel like a nice medium mellowness to me. I've also had an Evisen 8.25 that was pretty flat. But the flattest board I've ever had was a Mini Logo 242.

The DOA guy goes into it in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: skatebruh on January 17, 2024, 04:08:11 PM
Id rather just give it away then! I have to say I dont really enjoy DLX anymore. They are all rather steep.
Suggestions for more mellow decks? I guess I could measure the height of the tail and nose with the deck on the floor, as a guide.
How mellow do you want to go? Baker/Deathwish OG shapes feel like a nice medium mellowness to me. I've also had an Evisen 8.25 that was pretty flat. But the flattest board I've ever had was a Mini Logo 242.

The DOA guy goes into it in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 17, 2024, 04:56:49 PM
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When you guys buy decks to have on ice, do you pregrip them or wait until you’re setting them up?
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Wait.


Yeah I had a few people come back in needing to regrip a board they had gripped by someone somewhere when they bought the boards, then not skated them for however long, so during that time the grip had peeled up a lot, in one case the grip completely came off the board and curled up on itself - maybe more so one particular brand that is a bit notorious for that sort of thing than anything else, but I am of the mind that if I am not going to skate it right now, I keep it ungripped (and usually still in shrink) until such time as I am ready and wanting to set it up to skate it.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 17, 2024, 05:14:39 PM
Has anyone traded product to a shop for something different?

Basically, I was gifted an Heroin Avi guest egg for my bday a few months back. I put it on ice as I had just set up a bigger (9.5") symmetrical egg and I kind of want to stay at that size. There are a ton of shops in LB/OC that carry Heroin, I just don't want to go in trying to trade if that's not a thing.

Yes, but I have good rapport with the owners. It's worth a try but don't make an issue of it if they are reluctant.



It is almost always about how easily something can move, so a fresh Heroin deck might just be a good seller and the shop will be really good with you, or if they are a bit more "stay with their own" and not really thinking outside the box, they might just be flat no.

Gotta say from being a guy who had often got this or that I didn't want, as well as being the guy behind the counter at other times and had people come in wanting to swap / trade all manner of things, I have this to say.

Simple respect goes a long way, as does a familiar face, so from being behind the counter and some random comes in with his spono package of brands XYZ (lowest brands out there) and wants to swap for brands ABC (best brands out there) and is a dick about it, the answer is a flat NO and I don't care how much you beg or ask, it is just not going to happen. 

If someone I barely know comes in with a bunch of amazing stuff and is super cool, I have no problem with them and try to help them with whatever they want.  Then if someone I am very familiar with comes in with a load of rubbish, or is trying to do the "but I am a regular..." and wants mates rates on stuff, then I often end up with a bad taste in my mouth and just don't want to deal with that dude again, even if I do some swap / trade deal.  I have ended up saying something like "I just can't help you any more" to more than one dude who was just too much trouble in the past.  Didn't miss not seeing him again, but that is just me.

But back to swaps and trades, when I have had things I didn't want, with a small shop I know, I have even left things there on consignment so if they sell, then I get shop credit.  That worked really well and they were down with it, but I did spend a decent amount in there too, helping to grease the wheels.

Other times I have offered to trade in a couple of decent things, with the desire to spend a good amount in that store, so the guy was cool with it as he made money, not just had a "no sale" swap and go happen.


Anyway, that is probably more than enough words for now - good luck and if you are cool and they are down, you can easily have a positive business deal, but I know some places would just be flat "No we can't do that" for various reasons, warranty and stock order issues one thing that comes to mind.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on January 18, 2024, 08:31:32 AM
are the bbs gx1000 8.5s a 14.25 or 14.5 wb?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dmng on January 18, 2024, 01:44:02 PM
Hello ! First post here after month of daily checking :)

I wondered as a beginner if bones/spitfire wheels have any plus for a beginner like me (Ollie, nollie, frontside 180, shuv) could be of any help for comfort or learning (better power slides ?) than my current haze wheels 99a?

Out of curiosity, what would be the setup you would recommend to someone like me  (180cm slim) with this “level” if I can say so

Sorry if this first post is a bit disappointing;)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on January 18, 2024, 02:00:45 PM
Hello ! First post here after month of daily checking :)

I wondered as a beginner if bones/spitfire wheels have any plus for a beginner like me (Ollie, nollie, frontside 180, shuv) could be of any help for comfort or learning (better power slides ?) than my current haze wheels 99a?

Out of curiosity, what would be the setup you would recommend to someone like me  (180cm slim) with this “level” if I can say so

Sorry if this first post is a bit disappointing;)

Nah not disappointing at all, it's all good. Honestly I've never even heard of Haze wheels before - looks like it's a European company.

I mean if they work for you, keep using em. But it's pretty much a given that higher quality product leads to more confidence and comfort, and skating is no exception to that, so I'd recommend using Spitfire or Bones due to their quality.

Maybe some European posters with more product experience can chime in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on January 18, 2024, 02:21:25 PM
Hello ! First post here after month of daily checking :)

I wondered as a beginner if bones/spitfire wheels have any plus for a beginner like me (Ollie, nollie, frontside 180, shuv) could be of any help for comfort or learning (better power slides ?) than my current haze wheels 99a?

Out of curiosity, what would be the setup you would recommend to someone like me  (180cm slim) with this “level” if I can say so

Sorry if this first post is a bit disappointing;)
Unless they don't slide at all, don't get anything more expensive. Especially for learning powerslides, because by doing that over and over you're gonna wear down any wheels pretty quickly. I just checked some reviews on skatedeluxe and it seems like Haze wheels slide perfectly fine.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 18, 2024, 02:25:33 PM
are the bbs gx1000 8.5s a 14.25 or 14.5 wb?


https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/jeff-carlyle-juggalo-8-5

or

https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/flowers-8-5

Details:
■ 8.5" X 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS


Can't speak for all of them, but at least the GX1000 site has good info on it.  Seems they are all 14.25 from looking at others too.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on January 18, 2024, 03:22:19 PM
does the primitive team have a van?
i was thinking mercedes sprinter
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 19, 2024, 01:05:35 AM
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Hello ! First post here after month of daily checking :)

I wondered as a beginner if bones/spitfire wheels have any plus for a beginner like me (Ollie, nollie, frontside 180, shuv) could be of any help for comfort or learning (better power slides ?) than my current haze wheels 99a?

Out of curiosity, what would be the setup you would recommend to someone like me  (180cm slim) with this “level” if I can say so

Sorry if this first post is a bit disappointing;)
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Nah not disappointing at all, it's all good. Honestly I've never even heard of Haze wheels before - looks like it's a European company.

I mean if they work for you, keep using em. But it's pretty much a given that higher quality product leads to more confidence and comfort, and skating is no exception to that, so I'd recommend using Spitfire or Bones due to their quality.

Maybe some European posters with more product experience can chime in.
Haze are good wheels, a friend skates for them. As said, if they work for you just keep them and then when needing new ones try some F4 99 if you want an update.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on January 19, 2024, 01:40:42 AM
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Hello ! First post here after month of daily checking :)

I wondered as a beginner if bones/spitfire wheels have any plus for a beginner like me (Ollie, nollie, frontside 180, shuv) could be of any help for comfort or learning (better power slides ?) than my current haze wheels 99a?

Out of curiosity, what would be the setup you would recommend to someone like me  (180cm slim) with this “level” if I can say so

Sorry if this first post is a bit disappointing;)
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Nah not disappointing at all, it's all good. Honestly I've never even heard of Haze wheels before - looks like it's a European company.

I mean if they work for you, keep using em. But it's pretty much a given that higher quality product leads to more confidence and comfort, and skating is no exception to that, so I'd recommend using Spitfire or Bones due to their quality.

Maybe some European posters with more product experience can chime in.
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Haze are good wheels, a friend skates for them. As said, if they work for you just keep them and then when needing new ones try some F4 99 if you want an update.

Nothing wrong at all with Haze wheels. Keep your money for shoes and decks you'll go threw both of them more than wheels.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dmng on January 19, 2024, 02:11:33 AM
Perfect thanks ! As I’ve only experienced one setup I’m always double thinking if my gear is adapted to my level and discovering or if anything would help but I’m happy to save money :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on January 19, 2024, 02:13:06 AM
Perfect thanks ! As I’ve only experienced one setup I’m always double thinking if my gear is adapted to my level and discovering or if anything would help but I’m happy to save money :)
While we are at it what is your set up?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 19, 2024, 02:52:38 AM
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Perfect thanks ! As I’ve only experienced one setup I’m always double thinking if my gear is adapted to my level and discovering or if anything would help but I’m happy to save money :)
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While we are at it what is your set up?
Oh yeah, let's have some fun
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dmng on January 19, 2024, 03:24:03 AM
Girl 8.5 Malto twin / 54mm 99 haze/ reds / ace af1 55 with hard bushings as I was struggling with the original bushings. I’m loosening progressively the kingpin

Quite happy with the twin and not having to thing about which side is nose
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on January 19, 2024, 06:47:17 AM
Girl 8.5 Malto twin / 54mm 99 haze/ reds / ace af1 55 with hard bushings as I was struggling with the original bushings. I’m loosening progressively the kingpin

Quite happy with the twin and not having to thing about which side is nose
Solid af.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dmng on January 19, 2024, 11:44:53 AM
Unlike me haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on February 02, 2024, 10:29:01 AM
I've got a 10" grimple egg that I'm setting up. Want to put it together here soon, but I'm divided on which wheels to run.

Putting AF1 66s on (hopefully not gonna be too small). I like all the following wheels equally but for different reasons.

56mm F4 Radial Fulls
53/54mm F4 Classics
worn-in 50some mm OJ Elites

or would be open to something else too. Not sure if I want it like an Abrams tank or a bit more nimble under the hood.

What would you guys slap on there?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 03, 2024, 05:08:33 AM
I've got a 10" grimple egg that I'm setting up. Want to put it together here soon, but I'm divided on which wheels to run.

Putting AF1 66s on (hopefully not gonna be too small). I like all the following wheels equally but for different reasons.

56mm F4 Radial Fulls
53/54mm F4 Classics
worn-in 50some mm OJ Elites

or would be open to something else too. Not sure if I want it like an Abrams tank or a bit more nimble under the hood.

What would you guys slap on there?
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Let me know how you get on with it. I have 169's kicking about and 52mm F4 classics.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jsettle on February 03, 2024, 05:43:51 AM
Anyone skated the accel slim mids as of recently. I am tempted to get a couple pairs to skate since they are on sale for 35 bucks. I have an older pair from about 6 yrs ago i wore as chillers that arent too bad. I guess the newer ones have tongue centering straps and the sti energy insole. Kind of want to skate a cupsole that's not too thick thats a mid and the old pair i have just hug my foot perfectly. Hoping someone has some info on them...good or bad
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: klobynrenn on February 05, 2024, 06:09:53 AM
Has anybody got any info on this Baker “Finlay” deck that’s on eBay? I’ve had a Google but can’t find anything about it anywhere.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204613600814?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=v4xveyerq9w&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MuGLczA8TLe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: iw0 on February 05, 2024, 07:16:32 AM
Has anybody got any info on this Baker “Finlay” deck that’s on eBay? I’ve had a Google but can’t find anything about it anywhere.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204613600814?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=v4xveyerq9w&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MuGLczA8TLe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

weird, no other info pops up but the ebay listing. it's an eastenders joke/reference if that helps
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: whale on February 06, 2024, 01:44:27 AM
Wrong sub maybe, but perfect thread...

Just saw Marcus Shaw is leaving és, where's he going to go? SB or NB?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on February 06, 2024, 09:31:48 AM
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I've got a 10" grimple egg that I'm setting up. Want to put it together here soon, but I'm divided on which wheels to run.

Putting AF1 66s on (hopefully not gonna be too small). I like all the following wheels equally but for different reasons.

56mm F4 Radial Fulls
53/54mm F4 Classics
worn-in 50some mm OJ Elites

or would be open to something else too. Not sure if I want it like an Abrams tank or a bit more nimble under the hood.

What would you guys slap on there?
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I'm thinking about getting one myself. Let me know how you get on with it. I have 169's kicking about and 52mm F4 classics.

Put it together over the weekend. Weather was too wet to fully test it tho.

After dicking around with it inside on both rad fulls and classics, I think I'm gonna set it  up with the radials. The classics plus slightly small trucks made it feel dinky...

Board feels really cool tho. Big belly and a nice taper to the tips. Wasn't too hard to kickflip, and pop shuvs feel really sweet. All the dims match up nicely, but the thing is definitely fucking huge.

I just wanna roll on it!! Cmon PNW weather shape-up, its February already.... >:(

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Post by: Síota on February 06, 2024, 10:20:57 AM
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I've got a 10" grimple egg that I'm setting up. Want to put it together here soon, but I'm divided on which wheels to run.

Putting AF1 66s on (hopefully not gonna be too small). I like all the following wheels equally but for different reasons.

56mm F4 Radial Fulls
53/54mm F4 Classics
worn-in 50some mm OJ Elites

or would be open to something else too. Not sure if I want it like an Abrams tank or a bit more nimble under the hood.

What would you guys slap on there?
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I'm thinking about getting one myself. Let me know how you get on with it. I have 169's kicking about and 52mm F4 classics.
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Put it together over the weekend. Weather was too wet to fully test it tho.

After dicking around with it inside on both rad fulls and classics, I think I'm gonna set it  up with the radials. The classics plus slightly small trucks made it feel dinky...

Board feels really cool tho. Big belly and a nice taper to the tips. Wasn't too hard to kickflip, and pop shuvs feel really sweet. All the dims match up nicely, but the thing is definitely fucking huge.

I just wanna roll on it!! Cmon PNW weather shape-up, its February already.... >:(

Cool! Will see if I score a skate shop day board from my local if not will ask him to order me one in. I've never had a twin tail.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mattchew on February 06, 2024, 12:12:03 PM
Are there any twin tails/symmetrical boards that are 8.5+ wide with a short (14.18 or preferably shorter) wheelbase?

Edit: I see upthread that the Girl G096 shape fits the bill, any others? I’ve been on the couch/loveseat for four years now so I like ‘em wide.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: the_dangery_bois on February 06, 2024, 07:46:57 PM
Are there any twin tails/symmetrical boards that are 8.5+ wide with a short (14.18 or preferably shorter) wheelbase?

Edit: I see upthread that the Girl G096 shape fits the bill, any others? I’ve been on the couch/loveseat for four years now so I like ‘em wide.
https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop (https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop)
The Life small egg twin and mid twin are both 8.625 with a 14” wb
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 06, 2024, 11:56:57 PM
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Are there any twin tails/symmetrical boards that are 8.5+ wide with a short (14.18 or preferably shorter) wheelbase?

Edit: I see upthread that the Girl G096 shape fits the bill, any others? I’ve been on the couch/loveseat for four years now so I like ‘em wide.
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https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop (https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop)
The Life small egg twin and mid twin are both 8.625 with a 14” wb
Player egg is 8.75 and 14"
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on February 07, 2024, 01:16:57 AM
Do you guys ever wax the insides of your wheels when skating curbs/ledges? I might be tripping, but this could be a thing especially with softer wheels (Dragons, X's) and metal ledges. And yeah, one should of course prioritize waxing the curb itself, but still. I mean, like for those occasions where you don't want to appear as the "wax guy" etc.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 07, 2024, 02:38:05 AM
Never thought of it, seems pretty smart.
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Post by: backside_frontside on February 07, 2024, 05:24:02 AM
Do you guys ever wax the insides of your wheels when skating curbs/ledges? I might be tripping, but this could be a thing especially with softer wheels (Dragons, X's) and metal ledges. And yeah, one should of course prioritize waxing the curb itself, but still. I mean, like for those occasions where you don't want to appear as the "wax guy" etc.

Thoughts?

Wax the wheel wells to avoid wheel bite on pinched grinds.
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Post by: TwisT on February 07, 2024, 06:07:10 AM
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Do you guys ever wax the insides of your wheels when skating curbs/ledges? I might be tripping, but this could be a thing especially with softer wheels (Dragons, X's) and metal ledges. And yeah, one should of course prioritize waxing the curb itself, but still. I mean, like for those occasions where you don't want to appear as the "wax guy" etc.

Thoughts?
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Wax the wheel wells to avoid wheel bite on pinched grinds.

ricta solved this problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJk1iZugLUk

I love this ad, because Nyjah talks about how great the wheel is, with footage of him on a completely different setup without the wheel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 07, 2024, 03:39:18 PM
Do you guys ever wax the insides of your wheels when skating curbs/ledges? I might be tripping, but this could be a thing especially with softer wheels (Dragons, X's) and metal ledges. And yeah, one should of course prioritize waxing the curb itself, but still. I mean, like for those occasions where you don't want to appear as the "wax guy" etc.

Thoughts?

I have done this a few times. It definitely works, but isn't quite as good and doesnt last as long as wax on the actual obstacle imo but helps in a pinch.
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Post by: Doosh215 on February 08, 2024, 02:57:38 PM
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Do you guys ever wax the insides of your wheels when skating curbs/ledges? I might be tripping, but this could be a thing especially with softer wheels (Dragons, X's) and metal ledges. And yeah, one should of course prioritize waxing the curb itself, but still. I mean, like for those occasions where you don't want to appear as the "wax guy" etc.

Thoughts?
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I have done this a few times. It definitely works, but isn't quite as good and doesnt last as long as wax on the actual obstacle imo but helps in a pinch.

Is this a pun?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on February 08, 2024, 03:01:57 PM
lol it was unintentional, but def relevant
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lepanto on February 08, 2024, 03:37:07 PM
Who tested the Spitfire 'lil smokies'?
Bought a set on 50mm/99du conical full and they looks so cool. Super small but got a nice ridding surface

Planning on skate them on a 8.18 Hockey/fa board i got arround or such
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 08, 2024, 08:10:34 PM
Who tested the Spitfire 'lil smokies'?
Bought a set on 50mm/99du conical full and they looks so cool. Super small but got a nice ridding surface

Planning on skate them on a 8.18 Hockey/fa board i got arround or such

What a lark; I pulled the trigger on another set myself just two days ago. Same/same 50mm/99du F4 Coni as well.
My 2nd time on them, even though I generally pref something more in the 54-56mm range, because damn it… they’re cheap & they’re FUCKING FUN.
Plan on running these on a 9” early 90’s style shaper as a goofing around set-up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 09, 2024, 03:07:21 AM
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Who tested the Spitfire 'lil smokies'?
Bought a set on 50mm/99du conical full and they looks so cool. Super small but got a nice ridding surface

Planning on skate them on a 8.18 Hockey/fa board i got arround or such
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What a lark; I pulled the trigger on another set myself just two days ago. Same/same 50mm/99du F4 Coni as well.
My 2nd time on them, even though I generally pref something more in the 54-56mm range, because damn it… they’re cheap & they’re FUCKING FUN.
Plan on running these on a 9” early 90’s style shaper as a goofing around set-up.
There are some 50mm teal tablets that look so nice, tempted.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 09, 2024, 10:44:00 AM
Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on February 09, 2024, 11:31:19 AM
Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.

Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 09, 2024, 11:40:29 AM
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Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
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Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
Thanks! I have rowans and kwalks(slip). They do have just a tiny bit more than my emericas and I don't think that's enough.
The etnies joslins have a really good amount, those are my walking shoes currently and I hope I can manage skating them soon, sole is a lot thicker and stiffer than what I'm used to.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: maggotspawn on February 09, 2024, 12:17:09 PM
How are the Spitfire Sapphires? How are they compared to Dragons?
Whoever I DM'd this question, please disregard, my phone is a POS.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on February 09, 2024, 02:39:19 PM
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Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
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Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
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Thanks! I have rowans and kwalks(slip). They do have just a tiny bit more than my emericas and I don't think that's enough.
The etnies joslins have a really good amount, those are my walking shoes currently and I hope I can manage skating them soon, sole is a lot thicker and stiffer than what I'm used to.
The Vans halfcab original/non-skate-line might be a good option. Unlike most of the Vans original line the halfcab mostly suede so it’ll hold up decently for skating. The insole is pretty thin and the tongue is thicker than a lot of other vulc shoes. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Allen. on February 09, 2024, 04:16:20 PM
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Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
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Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
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Thanks! I have rowans and kwalks(slip). They do have just a tiny bit more than my emericas and I don't think that's enough.
The etnies joslins have a really good amount, those are my walking shoes currently and I hope I can manage skating them soon, sole is a lot thicker and stiffer than what I'm used to.
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The Vans halfcab original/non-skate-line might be a good option. Unlike most of the Vans original line the halfcab mostly suede so it’ll hold up decently for skating. The insole is pretty thin and the tongue is thicker than a lot of other vulc shoes.
I don’t think they make em anymore. And if they do… I need
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2024, 04:28:31 PM
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Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
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Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
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Thanks! I have rowans and kwalks(slip). They do have just a tiny bit more than my emericas and I don't think that's enough.
The etnies joslins have a really good amount, those are my walking shoes currently and I hope I can manage skating them soon, sole is a lot thicker and stiffer than what I'm used to.
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The Vans halfcab original/non-skate-line might be a good option. Unlike most of the Vans original line the halfcab mostly suede so it’ll hold up decently for skating. The insole is pretty thin and the tongue is thicker than a lot of other vulc shoes.
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I don’t think they make em anymore. And if they do… I need


The Classic Half Cab is still around, although it often goes on sale, gets cleared out, then comes back next year at a higher price, goes on sale, etc in some of the bigger shops I always see (and get them from when on clearance).

I strip out the classic glued in insole, sometimes super easy and other times not, then put in my own old pro insoles and super glue the stitching around and they hold up just fine for me - no blown out areas at all compared to the Skate Half Cab, where the heel area splits, mainly because it is canvas and not reinforced.

Some of the other versions of the Skate line, like a few of the 92 versions are full leather / suede round the back so they don't blow out.



As far as padded tongue options, I have always recycled my Half Cab tongues into most other shoes, so when the Half Cab is done, rip out or cut out the tongue, then often cut it down a little to fit under the minimal tongue of almost every other shoe I have, all Vans, but I just sit them in as I put the shoe on, tighten up the laces and they don't move at all.

This is my go to for Old Skools, Sk8 Low, Mid or Hi, Era, Authentics and more.  You can use a padded tongue from any other shoe, or people even put in a cut up piece of high density foam, but a puffy tongue from any 00 shoe is great - used to have Etnies SLB, Accel and others that were always great for the padded tongue to re use when the shoe was done.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 09, 2024, 08:46:03 PM
I used to have a vhs copy of an s-one insoles video with Brian Emmers, Aaron Snyder, Paulo Diaz who skated to his own music I think, (maybe) Peter Smolik and bunch of others.  I’m pulling this name out of the depths of my memory and might not actually be a real name but i think Will Harmon had a part.  I used to love this video but forgot the name. Does anybody remember this? What was it called? I’d like to watch it again
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Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 09, 2024, 10:24:43 PM
Found it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZN5Uin872s&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on February 10, 2024, 05:03:08 AM
Looked through a lot of shoes at the shop today and yeah, half cabs are the solution to my tongue padding problem. Thanks for the input guys. Joslin vulcs are also an okay option, at least much better than the emerica dicksons and basically all the other vans.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on February 10, 2024, 11:48:04 AM
Looked through a lot of shoes at the shop today and yeah, half cabs are the solution to my tongue padding problem. Thanks for the input guys. Joslin vulcs are also an okay option, at least much better than the emerica dicksons and basically all the other vans.

The MC 92 reissue could be another good option next to Halfcabs.

Also, sounds like late 2000s and early 2010s vulcs are ideal for this situation: puffy-ish uppers on thinner vulc soles. Miss that era of shoes, personally: Square One, HSU Mid, DVS Munition CT, DC Pure (I know they're still around), etc.
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Post by: biaherl on February 10, 2024, 12:26:12 PM
Back in my day you would fold a sock and stuff it under your tongue
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Post by: PaulHarwood856 on February 10, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
Think about it like this: less friction means less wear and tear on your gear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 10, 2024, 09:14:25 PM
Back in my day you would fold a sock and stuff it under your tongue
I used to do this too, but eventually stopped because: a) it didn’t do much for my shoes & b) I couldn’t talk the whole session because of the gosh darned sock in my mouth.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 15, 2024, 11:24:09 AM
My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Can he read on February 15, 2024, 11:45:45 AM
Back in my day you would fold a sock and stuff it under your tongue

Or cut out the tongue of another pair of shoes and stuff it inside. Talk about an onion on the belt.

There’s a company still keeping the dream alive in 2024 for some reason https://www.instagram.com/puffrite?igsh=dDEzY2M2N3FrYXE0
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Post by: Can he read on February 15, 2024, 11:48:42 AM
My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.

I hear the NB1010 is pretty much the shoe for that. I have a pair and can confirm they’re very padded and comfy but I haven’t brought myself to try skating in them yet.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 15, 2024, 11:55:49 AM
My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.

The right shoes will always be stopgap for conditioning your body, but with that said, I agree with the 1010 recommendation. It's not even the only shoe I skate, but I think it's the most comfortable, longest lasting and probably the best all-around skate shoe I've ever used.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on February 15, 2024, 11:56:35 AM
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Back in my day you would fold a sock and stuff it under your tongue
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Or cut out the tongue of another pair of shoes and stuff it inside. Talk about an onion on the belt.

There’s a company still keeping the dream alive in 2024 for some reason https://www.instagram.com/puffrite?igsh=dDEzY2M2N3FrYXE0

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiTok8JJIZ8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

fucking sold
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Aquatic Dinosaur on February 15, 2024, 06:17:05 PM
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My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.
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The right shoes will always be stopgap for conditioning your body, but with that said, I agree with the 1010 recommendation. It's not even the only shoe I skate, but I think it's the most comfortable, longest lasting and probably the best all-around skate shoe I've ever used.

Thanks yeah I'm definitely putting in the work and exercising.  Had a setback that brought a lot of pain from a seemingly very minor hit to my heel
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 16, 2024, 01:17:32 AM
My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.
1010 or if you want to go hardcore 808 and if you want to go really hardcore put FP game changers on 808.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on February 16, 2024, 05:11:14 AM
My knees and ankles are fucked.  Any impact seems to put me out of commission.  I'm out of the loop for shoes since I've been comfortable with emericas my whole life but need some cushion.  Which shoes have the best impact cushioning?  I'll even buy some Nyjahs, whatever it takes.
Get some FP insoles (just the green 20-30 dollar kingfoam elites) and it will really help with vibrations and little impacts even from flat ground skating. They really did save my knees from getting worse.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 16, 2024, 03:15:35 PM
Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better and that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 16, 2024, 03:43:18 PM
Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better dnd that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..


great freakin question.

off the top my 1st example is the G053…. wider, longer shape. worked great.
nb 808s i was positive i needed to send back, and they are now excellent. took some time on a shoe stretcher.

i’m sure there is more.


stuff i should have stuck with: skating wider boards. i always wanted to skate little boards like my tech hero’s. i had several ‘cruisers’ that were really just hesh-curious setups, that i’d only ride drunk….(this has taken a turn, as im typing this out….)


anyways! i’d skate these bigger boards, intoxicated, and skate better in many ways, than how i’d skate on my tiny 7.5s or what have you.
but id never stick with those. interesting only to me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 16, 2024, 03:50:41 PM
I need to know.

Who's fuckin better PJ of Daewon? It doesn't deserve a thread at this time.
I'm not asking who's your favorite I'm asking who has better communication with the board.

I been arguing strangers near to the point of them foaming up and getting punchy. Apparently my second favorite west coaster is like heeeeeeeeySeuss the anointed among some blasphemous circles better here and Canadia. I don't get it at all. I'd admit that style wise is very close. Imma give that to Daewon.

I'm fuckin telling you just like I told the last guy.
Magnesium trucks. Pj wins.... And i just sonned you kid.

So what does slap think?

PJ or Daewon. Who's got the juice grandma.

I wish someone would nick name me grandma some day. Get my frickin eyebrows tatted and scare people in the neighborhood on Sundays
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 16, 2024, 04:15:04 PM
Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better dnd that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..

I'd say it was the NB1010s. I spent good money on them, and they felt absolutely awful, so I moved them to street shoes. After a few months, I tried skating them again and they were probably the best shoe I've ever used.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 16, 2024, 04:18:34 PM
@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right

@manysnakes
i took a week or two wearing them daily
when i was ready to skate em they were perfectly molded
definitely not an “out the box” shoe but patience is rewarded
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 16, 2024, 05:37:12 PM
@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right

I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: botefdunn on February 16, 2024, 05:43:55 PM
Are dogs who respond to specific words or commands more attuned to human communication, or is it the more independent types that interact for their own purposes the more advanced communicators?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 16, 2024, 09:01:41 PM
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Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better dnd that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..
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I'd say it was the NB1010s. I spent good money on them, and they felt absolutely awful, so I moved them to street shoes. After a few months, I tried skating them again and they were probably the best shoe I've ever used.

Same with the 1010s, shame it took me that long to get on board now they're my favorite chiller / skate shoe by a wide margin. I wanted to keep riding eS since Soletech is a core brand, but I was blown away at how good the suede and rubber on the 1010s were. Their sole could use some work, it feels slippery even when new, maybe a coating over the factory.

The Etnies Marana was another one, should have gone a 1/2 size up but they were killing my feet using them as chillers while on holiday and walking 14k steps a day. Coupled with fresh Mob and I felt like my ankle ligaments were being torn with every kickflip. Couldn't wait for them to die but after 3 weeks of skating they finally broke in and the Michelin sole last longer than any shoe. Right amount of puff and hidden lace loops were a big plus too.

Bronson G3s are another one, but only at the discounted price of under $20. At full MSRP Bones Reds can't be beat.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on February 16, 2024, 11:08:10 PM
Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better and that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..

Younger me:

Riding a board bigger than an 8.0" when my feet were already a US 10. Once I stopped skating small boards, I actually progressed better/faster. Will never skate anything smaller than an 8.38 ever again. Currently an 11-11.5, so it tracks

Current me:

Spitfire F4. I had such a bad taste of Spitfire for the longest time. Coolest looking brand but one of the worst quality pre-F4. I LOVED Bones STFs forever and believed in them until Oct 2020 I set my first set up. 99D Conical Full 54 and never looked back. I skate on F4s how I THOUGHT I skated on STFs. Everything just feels so much better then I expected on these.

Stubby tail Habitat and AWS in the last 6-7 years. The three decks with this shape skated really well and the tail didn't feel too short and stubby. Actually worked quite well. Can't say the same for WKND's standard 8.5 shape. That one felt terrible to me and it was a similar mold.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 17, 2024, 12:14:06 AM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
[close]

I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever know
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 17, 2024, 06:13:00 PM
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Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better dnd that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..
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I'd say it was the NB1010s. I spent good money on them, and they felt absolutely awful, so I moved them to street shoes. After a few months, I tried skating them again and they were probably the best shoe I've ever used.

I full agree. I didn't wanna fuck with NB but there's no option that I can see to the 808. Which I'm my opinion is the perfect skate shoe.
Sometimes you gotta put aside the pride and buy stuff you don't wanna to have good health.
I can honestly say that I'm 98% back. So long as snow isn't in the mail. Then slight discomfort.

I had to learn how to walk again when I was 21. Was on a cane a second time rowing around for 2 years when I was like 25 from a fucked up surgery on my ass bone from an injury that happened when I was like 15.
I gotta find every loop hole I can to keep rolling till my day of death. And I was being fucked by every other brands flat ass shoes.
Skating forever no matter what has always been the mission. And I've never been actually lost lost. I just got somewhat confused a month or 18.
I was always knowing I coming back.

I'm NEVER going to stop. Even if I gotta go full Signal Hill style and never bang my tail again. I'd be almost nothing with out the board nearby. I cannot do without.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dkeppel on February 18, 2024, 12:22:12 AM
I've been skating Nike SB Force 58 shoes for just over a month now, they felt great in the store but within a week I started having issues with inner arch and ankle pain, and I'd never had any issues with ankle/arch pain in the past.

Especially after walking/running in these shoes, my inner arches and ankles will ache for at least a day.

I have quite wide/flat feet and they feel too slim around the heel area, and that causes the shoes to push my feet up onto the outer arch part of the foot.

Anyone else had issues with these shoes? And any recommendations for this wide/flat footed skater?

Cheers.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 18, 2024, 02:45:57 AM
I've been skating Nike SB Force 58 shoes for just over a month now, they felt great in the store but within a week I started having issues with inner arch and ankle pain, and I'd never had any issues with ankle/arch pain in the past.

Especially after walking/running in these shoes, my inner arches and ankles will ache for at least a day.

I have quite wide/flat feet and they feel too slim around the heel area, and that causes the shoes to push my feet up onto the outer arch part of the foot.

Anyone else had issues with these shoes? And any recommendations for this wide/flat footed skater?

Cheers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZJpdkb70Q&ab_channel=BenDegros

Probably because it's narrow around the arch area and heel area. I have wide flat feet and Nikes / Adidas have always been a painful time especially since they slim out around the toe box, regardless if they are chiller, running or skate shoes. I will go up 1/2 a size as chillers but not use them to skate.

If they're still hurting your feet after a month of skating then you should consider retiring them early. Your feet shouldn't be suffering at the expense of a shoe.

I like the 1010s, a little long in the toe area when I got a TTS pair but I got over it pretty quickly. Really comfy and the durability on the upper and outsole have been amazing, I could use them as chillers for a few weeks while still skating them. And the look down factor is a huge plus.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ratking on February 18, 2024, 05:13:37 AM
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Was there a piece off gear you forced yourself to ride that ended up being for the better dnd that you stuck with? Like a shorter WB board or taper tail vs full, bigger wheels, etc..
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I'd say it was the NB1010s. I spent good money on them, and they felt absolutely awful, so I moved them to street shoes. After a few months, I tried skating them again and they were probably the best shoe I've ever used.
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I full agree. I didn't wanna fuck with NB but there's no option that I can see to the 808. Which I'm my opinion is the perfect skate shoe.
Sometimes you gotta put aside the pride and buy stuff you don't wanna to have good health.
I can honestly say that I'm 98% back. So long as snow isn't in the mail. Then slight discomfort.

I had to learn how to walk again when I was 21. Was on a cane a second time rowing around for 2 years when I was like 25 from a fucked up surgery on my ass bone from an injury that happened when I was like 15.
I gotta find every loop hole I can to keep rolling till my day of death. And I was being fucked by every other brands flat ass shoes.
Skating forever no matter what has always been the mission. And I've never been actually lost lost. I just got somewhat confused a month or 18.
I was always knowing I coming back.

I'm NEVER going to stop. Even if I gotta go full Signal Hill style and never bang my tail again. I'd be almost nothing with out the board nearby. I cannot do without.
Damn. That sent me on an emotional roller coaster ride from hell. I get depressed when my annual ankle roll shows up, cant imagine learning to walk. Definitely be thinking about this next time I'm too tired after work.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 18, 2024, 03:53:20 PM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
[close]

I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
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im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled

Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dkeppel on February 18, 2024, 06:49:42 PM
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I've been skating Nike SB Force 58 shoes for just over a month now, they felt great in the store but within a week I started having issues with inner arch and ankle pain, and I'd never had any issues with ankle/arch pain in the past.

Especially after walking/running in these shoes, my inner arches and ankles will ache for at least a day.

I have quite wide/flat feet and they feel too slim around the heel area, and that causes the shoes to push my feet up onto the outer arch part of the foot.

Anyone else had issues with these shoes? And any recommendations for this wide/flat footed skater?

Cheers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZJpdkb70Q&ab_channel=BenDegros

Probably because it's narrow around the arch area and heel area. I have wide flat feet and Nikes / Adidas have always been a painful time especially since they slim out around the toe box, regardless if they are chiller, running or skate shoes. I will go up 1/2 a size as chillers but not use them to skate.

If they're still hurting your feet after a month of skating then you should consider retiring them early. Your feet shouldn't be suffering at the expense of a shoe.

I like the 1010s, a little long in the toe area when I got a TTS pair but I got over it pretty quickly. Really comfy and the durability on the upper and outsole have been amazing, I could use them as chillers for a few weeks while still skating them. And the look down factor is a huge plus.

Yup I think your right, skating in my boat shoes is more comfortable but they are getting destroyed really fast. I'm going to have to retire the Nike SB shoes, which is a shame but its not worth the pain at my age to save a few bucks.

I tried on some Etnie Marana's today and they felt pretty nice, these are the same NB shoe you like correct?https://www.backdoor.co.nz/product/nm1010-tiago-lemos/nb-nm1010s23.aspx?c=3460

I can buy these shoes locally I'll give them a try on tomorrow.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: daewonbong3000 on February 18, 2024, 07:02:36 PM
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Are there any thin shoes (need boardfeel) with a bit of a thicker padded tongue? The top of my foot is swollen from the board falling on it and I wish there was more protection.
Currently skating emerica dicksons and there's nothing.
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Vans Rowans have a nice padded tongue and collar, tho maybe a bit beefier overall than you'd like. Still great boardfeel imo.

Vans Chukka Lows have a mad padded tongue.

Vans K-Walks are cupsole but still on the slimmer side, also a nice amount of cushion

A number of vulc NB# models should have some padding, I'll leave the specifics to the NB experts tho

GT Blazers have a smidge of tongue padding, not too familiar with other Nike SB's tho.

Small list of the top of my head, others would probably know more.
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Thanks! I have rowans and kwalks(slip). They do have just a tiny bit more than my emericas and I don't think that's enough.
The etnies joslins have a really good amount, those are my walking shoes currently and I hope I can manage skating them soon, sole is a lot thicker and stiffer than what I'm used to.


Vans 96. Great grippy sole you can expect from vans vulcs. Stock insole is pretty hefty but you can always switch it for something thinner. Really fat tongue and collar though, feel great on foot. Plus they’re a reissue of a shoe that no one ever thought would come out again and you can look like a total g.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 19, 2024, 10:47:02 AM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
[close]

I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
[close]
im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
[close]

Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
board dims are pretty funny to me now
being that ive been on sizes too narrow for years
the shortest board i liked off top was a quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
but it feels so dishonest
i wouldnt ride let alone buy a deck that thin again

9.0 - 9.25 is apparently just my size
but my wb tests are limited in this range
ive tried 13.875, 14.0, 14.5, 14.75, and 15 inch wb
on popsicle or popsicle adjacent shapes
theres a big gap between 14 and 14.5
ill update my findings the more these dims become available
9.0/32.1/14.375wb is looking like the next purchase

shape matters a lot to me tho
the farther away from pointy kicks, the better
no eggs or football shapes for me

as for trucks, i spent some time on 5.6s
then tried 5.8s with a quasi 8.38 and said fuck it, go 6.1
i have not switched since
sticking with a truck has made it easier to judge boards
but it did take a relative fortune to find a pair to commit to
when the dust settles ill give ace low 60s a shot
but only with my favorite tested shapes and wheels
keeps the variables in check and makes it truck vs truck

testing out 8.38 shapes seems hellish
ive never met a 9 popsicle that wasnt as advertised
the worst that could happen is taper by the back trucks
not outright being an 8.8 in disguise
best of luck with your endeavors, i couldnt do it

my knees cant handle anything harder than 99a
cant risk it after my knee injury on 101 spits
took me out of for 3.5 months
ill go faster, use more wax, just anything else
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 19, 2024, 12:19:59 PM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
[close]

I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
[close]
im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
[close]

Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
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board dims are pretty funny to me now
being that ive been on sizes too narrow for years
the shortest board i liked off top was a quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
but it feels so dishonest
i wouldnt ride let alone buy a deck that thin again

9.0 - 9.25 is apparently just my size
but my wb tests are limited in this range
ive tried 13.875, 14.0, 14.5, 14.75, and 15 inch wb
on popsicle or popsicle adjacent shapes
theres a big gap between 14 and 14.5
ill update my findings the more these dims become available
9.0/32.1/14.375wb is looking like the next purchase

shape matters a lot to me tho
the farther away from pointy kicks, the better
no eggs or football shapes for me

as for trucks, i spent some time on 5.6s
then tried 5.8s with a quasi 8.38 and said fuck it, go 6.1
i have not switched since
sticking with a truck has made it easier to judge boards
but it did take a relative fortune to find a pair to commit to
when the dust settles ill give ace low 60s a shot
but only with my favorite tested shapes and wheels
keeps the variables in check and makes it truck vs truck

testing out 8.38 shapes seems hellish
ive never met a 9 popsicle that wasnt as advertised
the worst that could happen is taper by the back trucks
not outright being an 8.8 in disguise
best of luck with your endeavors, i couldnt do it

my knees cant handle anything harder than 99a
cant risk it after my knee injury on 101 spits
took me out of for 3.5 months
ill go faster, use more wax, just anything else

You're like me, just taller....I can't do pointy, so yeah, no eggs, as much as I like the idea of them. I need a full/squareish tail/rounded full nose <- uncommon shape combo; think FA tails with DLX round noses...knees hate hard wheels but I do it 50% of the time for certain tricks.

Looking at boards a lot these days and clearly most are using BBS stock dims, most boards are 32 and over these days, 32.1, 32.25 - when did this happen and why? Maybe *I'm* doing it wrong and should be riding a longer board?

I quite enjoyed my ACE lows (44s tho, much too narrow) with hard bushings and the 1/16th ACE riser, very sexy.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 19, 2024, 12:38:39 PM
re: longer board

i am way way shorter than ya’ll, but i’ve had multiple instances of longer boards working well.
caveat, i’ve tried so much shit i dunno what works, and what doesn’t.

skating an 8.38 generator shop deck that is over 32 and good.
the brophy shape from crail is an easier one to skate for me. if i needed a big board, that’s what i’d skate. (its 8.6 but long). i’m not mentioning it as a recommendation, ya’ll seem like you have a good bead in what’s next, i was saying it more that it surprised me quite a bit, that i was able to make it work at all. something like 32.56 ish (can’t remember), and i frequently skate boards that are a full inch plus shorter, and like them.
i. am a mess.
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Post by: munchbox on February 19, 2024, 12:53:16 PM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
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I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
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im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
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Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
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board dims are pretty funny to me now
being that ive been on sizes too narrow for years
the shortest board i liked off top was a quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
but it feels so dishonest
i wouldnt ride let alone buy a deck that thin again

9.0 - 9.25 is apparently just my size
but my wb tests are limited in this range
ive tried 13.875, 14.0, 14.5, 14.75, and 15 inch wb
on popsicle or popsicle adjacent shapes
theres a big gap between 14 and 14.5
ill update my findings the more these dims become available
9.0/32.1/14.375wb is looking like the next purchase

shape matters a lot to me tho
the farther away from pointy kicks, the better
no eggs or football shapes for me

as for trucks, i spent some time on 5.6s
then tried 5.8s with a quasi 8.38 and said fuck it, go 6.1
i have not switched since
sticking with a truck has made it easier to judge boards
but it did take a relative fortune to find a pair to commit to
when the dust settles ill give ace low 60s a shot
but only with my favorite tested shapes and wheels
keeps the variables in check and makes it truck vs truck

testing out 8.38 shapes seems hellish
ive never met a 9 popsicle that wasnt as advertised
the worst that could happen is taper by the back trucks
not outright being an 8.8 in disguise
best of luck with your endeavors, i couldnt do it

my knees cant handle anything harder than 99a
cant risk it after my knee injury on 101 spits
took me out of for 3.5 months
ill go faster, use more wax, just anything else
[close]

You're like me, just taller....I can't do pointy, so yeah, no eggs, as much as I like the idea of them. I need a full/squareish tail/rounded full nose <- uncommon shape combo; think FA tails with DLX round noses...knees hate hard wheels but I do it 50% of the time for certain tricks.

Looking at boards a lot these days and clearly most are using BBS stock dims, most boards are 32 and over these days, 32.1, 32.25 - when did this happen and why? Maybe *I'm* doing it wrong and should be riding a longer board?

I quite enjoyed my ACE lows (44s tho, much too narrow) with hard bushings and the 1/16th ACE riser, very sexy.
ever try the girl/chocolate g033?
thats the only shape i can think of that isnt super wide

i used to think sub 32 boards were a necessity
but this 32.5 made my form so much better
short board/wb combo was good for learning mechanics
but nothing looked nearly as good as it does now
would have never known until i tried it, give it a shot

with the lows id keep em low, no riser
gotta see what im missing since venture wont r&d it
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Notyourmom on February 20, 2024, 03:08:51 AM
Anybody know if the primitive shape guide is accurate? Especially the 8.5. Looks like a perfect shape with 14.5 wb but everywhere I look online they’re labeled as 14.25-14.3.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dmng on February 20, 2024, 07:58:17 AM
Could anyone help me with a truck sizing for my new grimple stix :)?

It’s a 9.8 but the narrowest (around the bottom truck) is about 8.6. I’m debating indies / ace / film trucks. I was thinking about risers and ricta clouds 57mm 86a to do a cruiser.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on February 20, 2024, 08:22:46 AM
If skateboarding died like many slap posters would like to see happen, how many of you would DIY your own skateboards? All of a sudden nobody buys any skate gear and there’s no more produced. The current stock only lasts us 5 years or so… do we generate our own economy of skate goods even though we making no money or is it everyone for themselves DIy mad max mode people at the skate spot all have crazy Frankenstein setups along with custom shapes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on February 20, 2024, 08:28:03 AM
If skateboarding died like many slap posters would like to see happen, how many of you would DIY your own skateboards? All of a sudden nobody buys any skate gear and there’s no more produced. The current stock only lasts us 5 years or so… do we generate our own economy of skate goods even though we making no money or is it everyone for themselves DIy mad max mode people at the skate spot all have crazy Frankenstein setups along with custom shapes?

If there are people skateboarding the industry will never truly die, it will just be far more limited.  I would expect more people to DIY and more people to do limited stock handmade decks.  I would consider doing the DIY route depending on how expensive the goods got.  My biggest concern would be getting the needed veneers to press.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on February 20, 2024, 08:49:45 AM
Is it unethical to trade a board with a shop that you may or may not have got on sale?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on February 20, 2024, 09:08:54 AM
Is it unethical to trade a board with a shop that you may or may not have got on sale?

as long as you and/or the shop genuinely think they can make an equal profit it's fine. It's not like you're trading a stack of $14 element boards, for a stack of DLX boards... are you?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 20, 2024, 11:03:30 AM
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If skateboarding died like many slap posters would like to see happen, how many of you would DIY your own skateboards? All of a sudden nobody buys any skate gear and there’s no more produced. The current stock only lasts us 5 years or so… do we generate our own economy of skate goods even though we making no money or is it everyone for themselves DIy mad max mode people at the skate spot all have crazy Frankenstein setups along with custom shapes?
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If there are people skateboarding the industry will never truly die, it will just be far more limited.  I would expect more people to DIY and more people to do limited stock handmade decks.  I would consider doing the DIY route depending on how expensive the goods got.  My biggest concern would be getting the needed veneers to press.
I'd just skate my wall hangers and order bearings from RS. It will never die that bad thou.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on February 20, 2024, 11:29:42 AM
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Is it unethical to trade a board with a shop that you may or may not have got on sale?
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as long as you and/or the shop genuinely think they can make an equal profit it's fine. It's not like you're trading a stack of $14 element boards, for a stack of DLX boards... are you?

haha no i would never

specifically, I had a duplicate Crail loveseat that I got from one of their mystery boxes, but wasn't hyped on the graphic. I traded it straight across for a black label egg.

I didn't even re-sell it, and the shop marked the Crail board at MSRP. The only the issue I see is the ~20$ difference, but if I didn't make any money anyway, I guess it doesn't matter

Just a random thought I felt kinda off about for one second
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2024, 11:46:51 AM
Anybody know if the primitive shape guide is accurate? Especially the 8.5. Looks like a perfect shape with 14.5 wb but everywhere I look online they’re labeled as 14.25-14.3.

@Notyourmom

A buddy of mine only skates 8.5s from primitive (or the DW/Baker 8.5s) because they are consistently 14.5 WB (and he's always had them be spot on).

FWIW, he only skates the pro decks as he prefers the mellower concave compared to the team bloards (china?) which are deeper (talking concave not kicks).

I've ridden a few of their 8.25/8.3s and they're always accurate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: smg1138 on February 20, 2024, 12:37:50 PM
Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2024, 01:27:05 PM
Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5

what is the baker 8.25?


longer tails mess with me too, but….maybe the longer tails work better with bigger wheels?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: smg1138 on February 20, 2024, 02:10:51 PM
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Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5
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what is the baker 8.25?


longer tails mess with me too, but….maybe the longer tails work better with bigger wheels?

Yeah I'd really like to know the reason too. I'm thinking longer tails probably work best with Ventures. I just know when I get much past 6.5" it starts noticeably messing with my timing and pop. Sometimes I wish I could skate other trucks but I've been on Indy's since Stage VII and everything else just feels like crap to me. I'm not saying anything new here, but my Indy's are like the heart and soul of my skateboard and I build everything else around that  ;D
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 20, 2024, 02:21:53 PM
Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5

Just from the top of my head and because I like the same specs. Magenta and Sour. Magenta has 2 slightly different 8.25 decks. Medium and steep concave.
Sour has also 2 different 8.25 decks. One of them is shorter as the other. Have to look that up to give you more info.

I think we all grew up with narrower decks and our first Ollies were on small tails. If we have a longer tail (< 6.6) we have to put the foot a bit more in the back, which can feel weird. Do you get ghost pop on your Indys when you ride a board with a longer tail?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2024, 02:30:09 PM
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Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5
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what is the baker 8.25?


longer tails mess with me too, but….maybe the longer tails work better with bigger wheels?
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Yeah I'd really like to know the reason too. I'm thinking longer tails probably work best with Ventures. I just know when I get much past 6.5" it starts noticeably messing with my timing and pop. Sometimes I wish I could skate other trucks but I've been on Indy's since Stage VII and everything else just feels like crap to me. I'm not saying anything new here, but my Indy's are like the heart and soul of my skateboard and I build everything else around that  ;D

i skate ventures (mostly), and i like short tails. i’ll admit that is mainly lo’s tho.
one of my favorite shapes, G053, has a sub 6.5 tail, and i’m fairly certain i like the whole shape, based off of that. feels the same as their 7.75.
anyways.
maybe i’m way wrong here, but baker guys were mainly indy for a while there, which makes me think their boards would be a good match.
the hockey/fa boards i had, right when they started (last time i had them) seemed better on indy as well.
my ‘logic’ was to ride decks with the same trucks that the pro would use, in hopes that it was all optimized.

i think tail length might be way more important than i have been considering, but it’s too late, it doesn’t matter for me anymore, i’ve got more gear than talent.
it stands to reason, to me, that tail length and wheel size have a strong relationship. i’ve used setups with taller wheels and longer tails, and it worked out well enough.

baker 8.25 is fairly close to what you want (i think)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2024, 03:11:12 PM
Those 8.25 bakers are not 31.875"

Waaaaay back they came in at 32"

Now they are closer to the 31.5" as advertised.

BBS is sloppy as shit across all brands...it's why I try and stay away, at least DSM and PSTix (once you understand how they measure) are accurate.

Long tails and Ventures WITH a short WB - everything balances each other out here (Primitive/April decks).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 20, 2024, 03:30:00 PM
Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5


Do you ride 144s on your setups?

It's a funny thing cause so many boards are almost those dimensions, more so the BBS Element decks before they went more with the China boards, but one you might want to check if you haven't already is the DLX shorter 8.5 board, often talked about as the blue eagle shape, which is definitely NOT 8.5 in width, but more like about 8.3 all up, but with every other dimension spot on for what you are looking for and the people I know who ride that are on 144s usually.

The only reason I bring that board up, besides the fact that there are a lot around in all different graphics, but it is consistently those dimensions and a lot of people love that board for that fact, that it is not 8.5 in width.

I would say have a look at one in person first if you can, as sometimes people like it and other times they will not, more so if they were actually wanting an 8.5 width, but there are always lots from DLX - Antihero, Real, Krooked, There, etc.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/classic-eagle-85-skateboard-deck/navy

SPECS
SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.8
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.5



* Obviously there would be more boards out there that you could find in those dimensions, or close to it, but besides some of the more common ones, or others as already listed, I can't think of many more off the top of my head, but going to a web site that has all dimensions listed and then using the search option, might bring up some more that work for you.

From Tactics, just using one almost universal site that almost anyone can check that has a fair range of boards, I see Baker, Heroin, Polar, Tactics own brand, Space Program, Cleaver, GX1000, Alltimers, Studio, Doom Sayers, Zero, Passport and more all with 14.25 wb and all with about the 6.5 tail, some 6.6 which is less than 2mm difference, but yes I know even a single mm can make a difference.





Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM
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Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5
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Do you ride 144s on your setups?

It's a funny thing cause so many boards are almost those dimensions, more so the BBS Element decks before they went more with the China boards, but one you might want to check if you haven't already is the DLX shorter 8.5 board, often talked about as the blue eagle shape, which is definitely NOT 8.5 in width, but more like about 8.3 all up, but with every other dimension spot on for what you are looking for and the people I know who ride that are on 144s usually.

The only reason I bring that board up, besides the fact that there are a lot around in all different graphics, but it is consistently those dimensions and a lot of people love that board for that fact, that it is not 8.5 in width.

I would say have a look at one in person first if you can, as sometimes people like it and other times they will not, more so if they were actually wanting an 8.5 width, but there are always lots from DLX - Antihero, Real, Krooked, There, etc.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/classic-eagle-85-skateboard-deck/navy

SPECS
SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.8
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.5



* Obviously there would be more boards out there that you could find in those dimensions, or close to it, but besides some of the more common ones, or others as already listed, I can't think of many more off the top of my head, but going to a web site that has all dimensions listed and then using the search option, might bring up some more that work for you.

From Tactics, just using one almost universal site that almost anyone can check that has a fair range of boards, I see Baker, Heroin, Polar, Tactics own brand, Space Program, Cleaver, GX1000, Alltimers, Studio, Doom Sayers, Zero, Passport and more all with 14.25 wb and all with about the 6.5 tail, some 6.6 which is less than 2mm difference, but yes I know even a single mm can make a difference.

that’s a good shout
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 20, 2024, 05:36:32 PM
Can anybody recommend a good deck with approximately these specs? Been looking around recently but can't seem to find a shape I like in these dimensions without a crazy long tail, tapered rails or wonky wheelbase. I skate Indy's so super long tails and short wheelbases just don't work well for me unfortunately.

Width: 8.25
Length: 31.875
Wheelbase: 14.25
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.5

Doom Sayers 8.25s are pretty close to your dims. The nose it 7” instead of 6 7/8” though.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MMongrel on February 21, 2024, 12:24:51 AM
I have an Atlantic Drift board right now that I really like and I'd like to grab another one with similar dimensions. There's not much info on the sizing but mine is 8.5" and I measured the wheelbase and it's 14.375. Would a BBS board in 8.5 be a safe bet or do I just need to grab mine and go to the shop and try to find a similar one? The woodshop thread lists at least Antihero and Magenta (from what is easily available locally) as same woodshop when I did a search here.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on February 21, 2024, 12:29:34 AM


Yeah I'd really like to know the reason too. I'm thinking longer tails probably work best with Ventures. I just know when I get much past 6.5" it starts noticeably messing with my timing and pop. Sometimes I wish I could skate other trucks but I've been on Indy's since Stage VII and everything else just feels like crap to me. I'm not saying anything new here, but my Indy's are like the heart and soul of my skateboard and I build everything else around that  ;D

I skated the Crailtap G052 shape (short wheelbase, 6.8" tail) with Ventures and it absolutely messed up my pop timing. Long tails are a big no no to me, regardless of truck.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on February 21, 2024, 08:55:30 AM
I have an Atlantic Drift board right now that I really like and I'd like to grab another one with similar dimensions. There's not much info on the sizing but mine is 8.5" and I measured the wheelbase and it's 14.375. Would a BBS board in 8.5 be a safe bet or do I just need to grab mine and go to the shop and try to find a similar one? The woodshop thread lists at least Antihero and Magenta (from what is easily available locally) as same woodshop when I did a search here.

DLX (BBS) 8.5 is noticeably different from the standard 8.5 from BBS

Example for 8.5 BBS decks:
Blue Eagle (AH 18) - 8.5 x 31.95 x 14.38
Black Label/The Killing Floor/Zero/Polar/etc - 8.5 x 32.3 x 14.5 (usually - some brands may have skight variances on concave steepness or WB)

If the total length is closer to the Blue Eagle's length, then that could be a nearly identical alternative to the Atlantic Drift deck.

The standard 8.5 from BBS is a slightly steeper concave and kick angle with a medium full nose and a full-ish tapered tail (not pointy but not round). Does your Atlantic Drift (when looking at it) seem to be closer to the trim Real/AH 8.5 or the fuller bodied 8.5 of other BBS decks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: MMongrel on February 21, 2024, 10:07:22 AM
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I have an Atlantic Drift board right now that I really like and I'd like to grab another one with similar dimensions. There's not much info on the sizing but mine is 8.5" and I measured the wheelbase and it's 14.375. Would a BBS board in 8.5 be a safe bet or do I just need to grab mine and go to the shop and try to find a similar one? The woodshop thread lists at least Antihero and Magenta (from what is easily available locally) as same woodshop when I did a search here.
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DLX (BBS) 8.5 is noticeably different from the standard 8.5 from BBS

Example for 8.5 BBS decks:
Blue Eagle (AH 18) - 8.5 x 31.95 x 14.38
Black Label/The Killing Floor/Zero/Polar/etc - 8.5 x 32.3 x 14.5 (usually - some brands may have skight variances on concave steepness or WB)

If the total length is closer to the Blue Eagle's length, then that could be a nearly identical alternative to the Atlantic Drift deck.

The standard 8.5 from BBS is a slightly steeper concave and kick angle with a medium full nose and a full-ish tapered tail (not pointy but not round). Does your Atlantic Drift (when looking at it) seem to be closer to the trim Real/AH 8.5 or the fuller bodied 8.5 of other BBS decks?
Thanks a lot for the insight! Unfortunately I can't comment too much as far as the shape as I have not had a popsicle from AH and never a Real board and this is my first 8.5 after sizing wider and then coming back a bit. The AD board tapers a bit towards the nose and the tail and the nose and tail features seem closer to the standard BBS though. Someone at the set-up thread measured the board length at 32.5 but he also measured the wheelbase as 14.5 Edit: I measured the length and it is indeed 32.5.

Here's a top pic.
https://ibb.co/9tTTdbt

 Sorry for the grip. It's middle of the winter here which means salty dirty shoes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 21, 2024, 10:35:18 AM
Is it unethical to trade a board with a shop that you may or may not have got on sale?

So long as you didn't trick or deceive them, muscle them into the deal, or pawn off stolen goods, then it's really not their business where the deck came from or how much you paid.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: kook1234 on February 21, 2024, 10:41:16 AM
Is it unethical to trade a board with a shop that you may or may not have got on sale?

yes if u buy it direct from the board company on sale and then trade to a shop for a regular price board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 21, 2024, 11:06:56 AM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
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I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
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im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
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Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
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board dims are pretty funny to me now
being that ive been on sizes too narrow for years
the shortest board i liked off top was a quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
but it feels so dishonest
i wouldnt ride let alone buy a deck that thin again

9.0 - 9.25 is apparently just my size
but my wb tests are limited in this range
ive tried 13.875, 14.0, 14.5, 14.75, and 15 inch wb
on popsicle or popsicle adjacent shapes
theres a big gap between 14 and 14.5
ill update my findings the more these dims become available
9.0/32.1/14.375wb is looking like the next purchase

shape matters a lot to me tho
the farther away from pointy kicks, the better
no eggs or football shapes for me

as for trucks, i spent some time on 5.6s
then tried 5.8s with a quasi 8.38 and said fuck it, go 6.1
i have not switched since
sticking with a truck has made it easier to judge boards
but it did take a relative fortune to find a pair to commit to
when the dust settles ill give ace low 60s a shot
but only with my favorite tested shapes and wheels
keeps the variables in check and makes it truck vs truck

testing out 8.38 shapes seems hellish
ive never met a 9 popsicle that wasnt as advertised
the worst that could happen is taper by the back trucks
not outright being an 8.8 in disguise
best of luck with your endeavors, i couldnt do it

my knees cant handle anything harder than 99a
cant risk it after my knee injury on 101 spits
took me out of for 3.5 months
ill go faster, use more wax, just anything else
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You're like me, just taller....I can't do pointy, so yeah, no eggs, as much as I like the idea of them. I need a full/squareish tail/rounded full nose <- uncommon shape combo; think FA tails with DLX round noses...knees hate hard wheels but I do it 50% of the time for certain tricks.

Looking at boards a lot these days and clearly most are using BBS stock dims, most boards are 32 and over these days, 32.1, 32.25 - when did this happen and why? Maybe *I'm* doing it wrong and should be riding a longer board?

I quite enjoyed my ACE lows (44s tho, much too narrow) with hard bushings and the 1/16th ACE riser, very sexy.
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ever try the girl/chocolate g033?
thats the only shape i can think of that isnt super wide

i used to think sub 32 boards were a necessity
but this 32.5 made my form so much better
short board/wb combo was good for learning mechanics
but nothing looked nearly as good as it does now
would have never known until i tried it, give it a shot

with the lows id keep em low, no riser
gotta see what im missing since venture wont r&d it

Tried a bunch of crail shapes (currently riding the G057 to try a 15"WB, under 32 - weird shape by comparison to a lot out there); I don't stray too far dim wise, as I've this idea of what I should ride and usually don't stray (max 8.5, max 14.3x wb, under 32", no 7" noses).

I've been feeling cramped, even on the 8.5s I have around so as an experiment to step out my usual comfort zone I picked up the following:

Heroin Savages Day 8.75"x32"x14.375WB (I'm assuming it's a 6.9/7" nose)
Jacuzzi Dilo Flipper (with wheel wells) 8.5x32.3x15" WB 7" nose - 6.75" tail)

Will set both up on Royals since they're the most neutral feeling truck to me and 51mm STF 103a V1s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on February 21, 2024, 01:56:50 PM
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@Xen
smaller wheels
sure they are not as fast as 56s or 58s
but it forces another push out of me
and feeling close to the ground is huge when youre tall
honestly should switch to x97/x99 to combat rough ground
just not sure which formula, want it to be one and done

longer boards too, switched cold turkey
31.75/14wb up to 32.5/14.5wb thinking id hate it
im visibly skating better and more confidently
not sure if its the wheelbase or overall length
but something feels right
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I've always been a fan of low and wide, so small wheels and 149s (but not lo trucks persay)
I find that don't skate as much 'rough' ground to warrant the x97s - x99s are passible on the one or two really rough spots I hit, the trade off is better 'everything else, everywhere else' with x99s.

32.5/14.5 is big boy territory; these days I struggle with shorter, narrower, small WB boards. i.e., anything under 14.25"WB, 8.5", 31.75" all feel off - tried my hand on an 8.75x31.75x14.125" wb - on paper it fits what I think I need, underfoot it might as well be a 7.75" =D

What trucks are you riding? While this could go in the madness thread, I find that I need 149s/159s...144/148 territory, again, might as well be 129s...so weird.
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im a big boy @ 6’6
my shorty just said 35% torso and 65% leg
i think this is an appropriate sized board
looks right on camera
saw what skaters my height were skating and its all 32-33
so now its just a skill issue lol

im on 6.1 hollow lights but can switch to solid axle easy
151s in any configuration would be my next favorite
and ive tried almost everything
i like wide trucks and have big feet, admittedly biased

as for the dimensions, ill say it might be the wheelbase
i gotta agree that 14.25 works better than 14.125wb
something aint right there, maybe forged plates?
maybe just not enough landing room for me

sub 14.25 has always felt weird at a filmable speed
you should give 8.75/32/14.25 a try next
alien workshop (i dont think you should keep them alive)
might have you sorted with a shape
off the top of my head

seems like i gotta “test” both bones formulas to ever k now
but ill start with x97 and if i cant blunt then its settled
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Daaaaamn 6.6, yeah you need a long wb and length for sure to accommodate that stance. I assume I have a wide stance (5'10" / 10.5 shoe / 32" inseam, so pretty average), I can hop on a 14.375 or 14.5" after skating a 14.25 and instantly feel it, doesn't matter how long the board is..I've tried forged plates, cast and 73468723 truck brands and none of them have such a dramatic effect on a 14.25 at all, 14" a little bit - going up in WB is the biggest change.

A lot of the time, if things feel off, I can put 149s (instead of 144/148s) that stability really helps (just like the longer WB does, ya know?); it doesn't help as much as I would like tho (like on those 14.125" WB bloards.) Another thing that I've noticed is the steeper the kicks the longer the WB needs to be so I don't feel cramped, conversely, a flatter board feels fine with 14.25".

I was looking at this AWS https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Alien_Workshop_Gasmask-33_Deck/descpage-AWGM33DK.html - seems like it would do me; it's either that or this polar https://usa.polarskateco.com/collections/winter-23-hardgoods/products/roman-gonzalez-demon-child (but am wary of the length).

I'm so picky with my bluntslides man...if I know I'm going to do them that day, I switch to 103a STFs nothing comes close for me, they just glide/so easy to control everything else is slower and stickier (even 101a spits) - for the record I like to travel when I slide and grind, none of this bitch as 6" slides and shit, but go the distance.
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board dims are pretty funny to me now
being that ive been on sizes too narrow for years
the shortest board i liked off top was a quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
but it feels so dishonest
i wouldnt ride let alone buy a deck that thin again

9.0 - 9.25 is apparently just my size
but my wb tests are limited in this range
ive tried 13.875, 14.0, 14.5, 14.75, and 15 inch wb
on popsicle or popsicle adjacent shapes
theres a big gap between 14 and 14.5
ill update my findings the more these dims become available
9.0/32.1/14.375wb is looking like the next purchase

shape matters a lot to me tho
the farther away from pointy kicks, the better
no eggs or football shapes for me

as for trucks, i spent some time on 5.6s
then tried 5.8s with a quasi 8.38 and said fuck it, go 6.1
i have not switched since
sticking with a truck has made it easier to judge boards
but it did take a relative fortune to find a pair to commit to
when the dust settles ill give ace low 60s a shot
but only with my favorite tested shapes and wheels
keeps the variables in check and makes it truck vs truck

testing out 8.38 shapes seems hellish
ive never met a 9 popsicle that wasnt as advertised
the worst that could happen is taper by the back trucks
not outright being an 8.8 in disguise
best of luck with your endeavors, i couldnt do it

my knees cant handle anything harder than 99a
cant risk it after my knee injury on 101 spits
took me out of for 3.5 months
ill go faster, use more wax, just anything else
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You're like me, just taller....I can't do pointy, so yeah, no eggs, as much as I like the idea of them. I need a full/squareish tail/rounded full nose <- uncommon shape combo; think FA tails with DLX round noses...knees hate hard wheels but I do it 50% of the time for certain tricks.

Looking at boards a lot these days and clearly most are using BBS stock dims, most boards are 32 and over these days, 32.1, 32.25 - when did this happen and why? Maybe *I'm* doing it wrong and should be riding a longer board?

I quite enjoyed my ACE lows (44s tho, much too narrow) with hard bushings and the 1/16th ACE riser, very sexy.
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ever try the girl/chocolate g033?
thats the only shape i can think of that isnt super wide

i used to think sub 32 boards were a necessity
but this 32.5 made my form so much better
short board/wb combo was good for learning mechanics
but nothing looked nearly as good as it does now
would have never known until i tried it, give it a shot

with the lows id keep em low, no riser
gotta see what im missing since venture wont r&d it
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Tried a bunch of crail shapes (currently riding the G057 to try a 15"WB, under 32 - weird shape by comparison to a lot out there); I don't stray too far dim wise, as I've this idea of what I should ride and usually don't stray (max 8.5, max 14.3x wb, under 32", no 7" noses).

I've been feeling cramped, even on the 8.5s I have around so as an experiment to step out my usual comfort zone I picked up the following:

Heroin Savages Day 8.75"x32"x14.375WB (I'm assuming it's a 6.9/7" nose)
Jacuzzi Dilo Flipper (with wheel wells) 8.5x32.3x15" WB 7" nose - 6.75" tail)

Will set both up on Royals since they're the most neutral feeling truck to me and 51mm STF 103a V1s
what truck brand do you like the most?
imo swapping trucks makes it hard to find preferred boards
because you can always blame the trucks
if you dont have a dedicated starter

once i knew my truck of choice
the board shape and dimensions because the focus
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 21, 2024, 04:11:11 PM
I like the:

Lightness of Thunders
Pop of Ventures
Turning of ACE/Indy/Slappy
Grind of Slappy (Indy/ACE 2nd place)

So I get the first three with Royals (they really just are turnier Ventures, but not as slow carvy as ACE or Indy but turn way better/smoother than Venture or thunder and with no wheelbite).

They also work well with any wheelbase as well.

Every time I switch it up, I end up back on Royals, they do everything with zero drawbacks for me (they do grind hard at first tho).

The Savage arrive just now, damn that thing is big :P
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on February 22, 2024, 12:07:14 AM
What's the added wheelbase effect of Royals in inches, anyone know? 
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Post by: rocklobster on February 22, 2024, 08:10:59 AM
What's the added wheelbase effect of Royals in inches, anyone know? 

+3.125 I think, similar to a Thunder standard / team or Indy Forged. @Xen rides them regularly so he's the best one to ask.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fartknocker415 on February 22, 2024, 08:39:12 AM
Every time I get closer to trying Thunder venture you guys hype up the royals and I fall deeper into the void lol
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Post by: rikki on February 22, 2024, 08:41:49 AM
Every time I get closer to trying Thunder venture you guys hype up the royals and I fall deeper into the void lol

I know, right? I've been happy with Ventures lately but then I started to read about Royals being a lovechild of Indys and Ventures and shit, I have enough trucks on ice already, but then again...
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Post by: rocklobster on February 22, 2024, 09:39:42 AM
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Every time I get closer to trying Thunder venture you guys hype up the royals and I fall deeper into the void lol
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I know, right? I've been happy with Ventures lately but then I started to read about Royals being a lovechild of Indys and Ventures and shit, I have enough trucks on ice already, but then again...

If I can say anything to dissuade you from Royals - stock bushings feel way too mushy so you can add bushing madness to the mix. And while they combine the best elements of Thunder / Indy / Venture they don't particularly excel in any area.
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Post by: rikki on February 22, 2024, 09:53:50 AM
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Every time I get closer to trying Thunder venture you guys hype up the royals and I fall deeper into the void lol
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I know, right? I've been happy with Ventures lately but then I started to read about Royals being a lovechild of Indys and Ventures and shit, I have enough trucks on ice already, but then again...
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If I can say anything to dissuade you from Royals - stock bushings feel way too mushy so you can add bushing madness to the mix. And while they combine the best elements of Thunder / Indy / Venture they don't particularly excel in any area.

Thank you sir. I'll take this and stop reading about Royals right now. What's Royals? Never heard.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 22, 2024, 10:23:16 AM
They turn was interesting, but the grind with Royals felt super shitty to me, which is why I stopped skating them pretty quickly after being gifted a pair. And yes, the bushings are incredibly soft. Like I can't believe they ship a production truck with bushings so soft.
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Post by: Cthulhu! on February 22, 2024, 10:54:18 AM
Their gooshy blue bushings are actually the best part.
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 22, 2024, 11:04:18 AM
I can say that my experience with royals has been great. I do like a medium loose truck so once they’re broken in a bit they feel great to me. I also like the grind a lot but I only ride the Ultralights so not sure how they compare to the standards
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 22, 2024, 11:18:46 AM
I can say that my experience with royals has been great. I do like a medium loose truck so once they’re broken in a bit they feel great to me. I also like the grind a lot but I only ride the Ultralights so not sure how they compare to the standards

The grind is the same, Ultralights = hollows. Overtime I feel they grind better than ventures / around the same as thunders (but again they do grind hard at the outset) - depends a lot on surfaces...Indy/slappy (slappy being fastest grind) will chew through the chunkiest concrete/shit leaving all the rest behind. 

There are these hard/sharp edged angled curbs that feel sooo good on ventures and royals (hard grinds) where everything else feels soft; on these curbs the royals and vetures feel like you are on a sharp knifes edge, other trucks butter knives =D I get that same feel on angle iron. NGL tho, I do go faster for grinds on venture or royals, nothing wrong with that...

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What's the added wheelbase effect of Royals in inches, anyone know? 
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+3.125 I think, similar to a Thunder standard / team or Indy Forged. @Xen rides them regularly so he's the best one to ask.

More than indy less than thunder seems to be the average here (measurements all over the place tho)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3222786#msg3222786

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manysnakes on February 22, 2024, 12:34:48 PM
Their gooshy blue bushings are actually the best part.

I like them but I'm 140 lbs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PM
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Every time I get closer to trying Thunder venture you guys hype up the royals and I fall deeper into the void lol
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I know, right? I've been happy with Ventures lately but then I started to read about Royals being a lovechild of Indys and Ventures and shit, I have enough trucks on ice already, but then again...

i’ve been wanting some. the only
reason i haven’t purchased, is i don’t know what size to get:

(behold a tale of madness/confusion)

i actually skated the best i ever have, on the previous stage of royals, in a size 8. loved those. everyone else hated them.
i don’t currently have a favorite 8” deck shape. i don’t struggle nearly as much on 8”s, compared to the larger sizes, but i don’t have a regular or homebase board that i like.
i really like the G053 griffin gass shape. it’s 8.5 and i skate it with thunder 149s. love it. it’s too big, and if im extra fat/out of shape, than i need to chill on the big board. but, it’d be sick to ride that 8.5 shape with the 8.5 trucks.
on the other hand. wtf am i doing riding an 8.5!? i am fragile and old and all i have left is some worm-burner, ground scraping nollie flops.
but then again i can land some treflips on the wider board and that’s gotta be nice right?


this just goes on and on and then i don’t buy them.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 22, 2024, 01:58:41 PM
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Their gooshy blue bushings are actually the best part.
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I like them but I'm 140 lbs.

Man, I got 50lbs+ on you, at 190lbs+ I can't skate [anything] stock anymore without cranking them down to Bam territory - I def swamp out for hard bushings every time (ACE hards work/fit great).

@ok sounds like you either need 144s and size up to 8.125 from 8 so you can swap between 8.125/8.25 and have one truck that fits. Or, get 149s and stick to 8.3/8.5s...I know that's not easy (which is why I have too many sets/sizes and doubles in IKP :P

Which would you rather have 139s or 144s?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on February 23, 2024, 03:52:24 AM
Does anyone know if Almost / Creature changed their molds?
Recently I have got myself a Almost deck marked as mellow concave steep kicks. Set it up, rode it, felt flat.
Measured it , 19.5°...

Out of interest I have put a spare creature 8.6 Vx on my current  8.6 Vx. Completely different concave and flatter for sure

https://ibb.co/Hh8z4s9

https://ibb.co/2jycz37
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on February 23, 2024, 08:47:30 AM
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Their gooshy blue bushings are actually the best part.
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I like them but I'm 140 lbs.
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Man, I got 50lbs+ on you, at 190lbs+ I can't skate [anything] stock anymore without cranking them down to Bam territory - I def swamp out for hard bushings every time (ACE hards work/fit great).

@ok sounds like you either need 144s and size up to 8.125 from 8 so you can swap between 8.125/8.25 and have one truck that fits. Or, get 149s and stick to 8.3/8.5s...I know that's not easy (which is why I have too many sets/sizes and doubles in IKP :P

Which would you rather have 139s or 144s?

i am also closer to 190

can’t decide between 8 and 8.5
i have some weird ambivalence towards 8.25 trucks. the only ones i’ve ever liked were 148s.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 23, 2024, 09:13:41 AM
Does anyone know if Almost / Creature changed their molds?
Recently I have got myself a Almost deck marked as mellow concave steep kicks. Set it up, rode it, felt flat.
Measured it , 19.5°...

Out of interest I have put a spare creature 8.6 Vx on my current  8.6 Vx. Completely different concave and flatter for sure

https://ibb.co/Hh8z4s9

https://ibb.co/2jycz37

I think when they started branding the top with the little fire graphic with the dims listed there was an adjustment of sorts (around when they added they added the 8.88/8.477/8.53s).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 23, 2024, 07:08:07 PM
What's NHS going to do now that China is dying
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 24, 2024, 03:32:31 AM
Does anyone know if Almost / Creature changed their molds?
Recently I have got myself a Almost deck marked as mellow concave steep kicks. Set it up, rode it, felt flat.
Measured it , 19.5°...

Out of interest I have put a spare creature 8.6 Vx on my current  8.6 Vx. Completely different concave and flatter for sure

https://ibb.co/Hh8z4s9

https://ibb.co/2jycz37


I think Creature went through a bit of a change of woodshop, China DSM to China Excel so although still out of China, the two different places would have different molds, hence the two different boards from different periods of time.

Of course they could have changed them up in the same woodshop as well, if they were not happy with the shape and feel of them and tweaked them to be different.

China are all single press, so it is not like some would be flatter and some steeper, but definitely different presses for those.


As for Almost, well, anything you see now is old stock, as Almost is done, Dwindle in general is done, who knows what may or may not come out but as for their boards, there were a number of different options, Almost having more mellow concaves in general compared to the cheaper boards from Blind or Darkstar, from what I saw.


Hope that helps.


* Going to copy your post to the Woodshop thread too, if that is ok?  Those board pics are good.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Schinken on February 24, 2024, 08:35:13 AM
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Does anyone know if Almost / Creature changed their molds?
Recently I have got myself a Almost deck marked as mellow concave steep kicks. Set it up, rode it, felt flat.
Measured it , 19.5°...

Out of interest I have put a spare creature 8.6 Vx on my current  8.6 Vx. Completely different concave and flatter for sure

https://ibb.co/Hh8z4s9

https://ibb.co/2jycz37
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I think Creature went through a bit of a change of woodshop, China DSM to China Excel so although still out of China, the two different places would have different molds, hence the two different boards from different periods of time.

Of course they could have changed them up in the same woodshop as well, if they were not happy with the shape and feel of them and tweaked them to be different.

China are all single press, so it is not like some would be flatter and some steeper, but definitely different presses for those.


As for Almost, well, anything you see now is old stock, as Almost is done, Dwindle in general is done, who knows what may or may not come out but as for their boards, there were a number of different options, Almost having more mellow concaves in general compared to the cheaper boards from Blind or Darkstar, from what I saw.


Hope that helps.


* Going to copy your post to the Woodshop thread too, if that is ok?  Those board pics are good.

Feel free to use in the woodshop thread
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: TwisT on February 24, 2024, 11:56:07 AM
Do all twin tails feel short and stubby or is it just me? Road the crail and the ishod, hated them. But I feel like there’s gotta be one out there that works
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on February 24, 2024, 12:01:56 PM
Do all twin tails feel short and stubby or is it just me? Road the crail and the is hold, hated them. But I feel like there’s gotta be one out there that works

I think AWS and Neen's Deathwish are not as short and stubby, since they're both closer to a twin nose , rather than a twin tail.

That said,  I have not seen any shops or catalogs with Neen's  double nose shape, but maybe they're still out there
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Woodshop on February 24, 2024, 02:41:08 PM
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Feel free to use in the woodshop thread


Thanks.

Always good to have different concave board pics like that.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 24, 2024, 05:50:59 PM
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Do all twin tails feel short and stubby or is it just me? Road the crail and the is hold, hated them. But I feel like there’s gotta be one out there that works
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I think AWS and Neen's Deathwish are not as short and stubby, since they're both closer to a twin nose , rather than a twin tail.

That said,  I have not seen any shops or catalogs with Neen's  double nose shape, but maybe they're still out there

Most are, but like DarkPools noted the Neen (the 8.5 x 32” mind), and the Habitat/AWS twins are 32.25+ with 7" kicks and long wheelbases, it's the extreme end imo.

The Toy Machine twins and the Foy come in at 32" and don't feels stubby or too long, nicely stuck in the middle
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 24, 2024, 10:06:29 PM
Do all twin tails feel short and stubby or is it just me? Road the crail and the ishod, hated them. But I feel like there’s gotta be one out there that works
Which Crail? I skated the G069 and loved it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GT on February 24, 2024, 10:22:45 PM
Which shoes now days have the best look to reminisce of all black with white laces 90-92 big pants small wheels shoes style ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jums on February 25, 2024, 06:22:40 AM
All black half-cabs.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: boofactory on February 25, 2024, 07:54:31 AM
Is there anyway to make a board slide like a slick, like applying lacquer to the nose and tail or something? I know wax will get the job done but I’m just curious
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Lou Strux on February 25, 2024, 08:14:29 AM
Is there anyway to make a board slide like a slick, like applying lacquer to the nose and tail or something? I know wax will get the job done but I’m just curious

There’s always the old Z-Skinz “stick on” slick.  Oddly, they still have some available at good ol’ reliable Skull Skates.

http://www.skullskates.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/10/products_id/1939 (http://www.skullskates.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/10/products_id/1939)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 25, 2024, 08:35:10 AM
Which shoes now days have the best look to reminisce of all black with white laces 90-92 big pants small wheels shoes style ?

Black Chukka boots. Period correct even.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GT on February 25, 2024, 11:52:09 AM
Is there anyway to make a board slide like a slick, like applying lacquer to the nose and tail or something? I know wax will get the job done but I’m just curious

Slizza slick tape
https://www.instagram.com/slizzaslicktape?igsh=czltdnpqMGJhbW1x

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 25, 2024, 12:24:27 PM
Flashback with that stick on slick - anyone tried it recently? Waaaay back that shit would slide for a day or so and then peel up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 25, 2024, 01:12:07 PM
Flashback with that stick on slick - anyone tried it recently? Waaaay back that shit would slide for a day or so and then peel up.

Sounds pretty close to real slicks then. They’d last about 2 days then go through and start flapping until it got pulled off out of anger.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 25, 2024, 04:37:52 PM
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Is there anyway to make a board slide like a slick, like applying lacquer to the nose and tail or something? I know wax will get the job done but I’m just curious
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There’s always the old Z-Skinz “stick on” slick.  Oddly, they still have some available at good ol’ reliable Skull Skates.

http://www.skullskates.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/10/products_id/1939 (http://www.skullskates.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/10/products_id/1939)



I tried that a few times back in 1990 or so and it worked to a point, but we only really put it on the end of the tail to make it last longer, as well as slide.

Young and impressionable...



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Flashback with that stick on slick - anyone tried it recently? Waaaay back that shit would slide for a day or so and then peel up.
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Sounds pretty close to real slicks then. They’d last about 2 days then go through and start flapping until it got pulled off out of anger.


That was always the white backing stuff wasn't it?

I remember desperately trying to stick it back down if it came off too quickly, but then once it all came off, the board would be so sticky underneath as well.


* Found this online:


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157687267001187&set=p.10157687267001187&type=3

(https://i.ibb.co/W5kZfpR/Vintage-everslick-deck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MScr75J)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on February 26, 2024, 06:40:03 PM
Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: GT on February 26, 2024, 08:17:16 PM
Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
Shields off WD40 but like a drop of
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Jogging José on February 26, 2024, 09:38:59 PM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
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Shields off WD40 but like a drop of

No, WD40 is not a good lubricant and does more damage in the long run. Use a drop of Speed Cream, sewing machine oil or motor oil….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on February 26, 2024, 09:51:00 PM
oh here we go......this actually deserves a thread......

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 27, 2024, 01:39:02 AM
Using WD-40 is as smart as kicking your own balls
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Thebird on February 27, 2024, 06:07:30 AM
Maybe I'm crazy here, but does anyone else ever feel like when you go to set up for a trick on a deck with steeper kicks, it slows you down more than setting up on a mellow deck?  Especially nollie and fakie.  I don't know, maybe this is in my head, but I really feel like I lose more speed on steeper shapes. 
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: geezer on February 27, 2024, 09:28:26 AM
Which shoes now days have the best look to reminisce of all black with white laces 90-92 big pants small wheels shoes style ?
Shelltoes
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 27, 2024, 03:48:14 PM
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Flashback with that stick on slick - anyone tried it recently? Waaaay back that shit would slide for a day or so and then peel up.
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Sounds pretty close to real slicks then. They’d last about 2 days then go through and start flapping until it got pulled off out of anger.

Ridden a few REAL slicks and never had an issue with them peeling up at all (all within the last few years tho). NHS slicks are still the best as they actually feel like they make a significant difference compared to the DLX ones, heavy tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 27, 2024, 04:10:11 PM
Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?


Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on February 27, 2024, 04:57:17 PM
Wanted to update. Had a chance for a quick post work sesh today and after I rode em around for a few minutes they loosened up and are now spinning great.

Still gonna grab some lube for em tomorrow just so I can keep ‘em going as long as possible
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 27, 2024, 07:03:29 PM
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Flashback with that stick on slick - anyone tried it recently? Waaaay back that shit would slide for a day or so and then peel up.
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Sounds pretty close to real slicks then. They’d last about 2 days then go through and start flapping until it got pulled off out of anger.
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Ridden a few REAL slicks and never had an issue with them peeling up at all (all within the last few years tho). NHS slicks are still the best as they actually feel like they make a significant difference compared to the DLX ones, heavy tho.

*when I said real I meant as in not stick on NOT from Real. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I’ve only had 2 slicks(2nd was an accident since I didn’t know) had an Underworld Element Stranger slick that I blew through the slick on the nose/tail/mid within 2 days and it was flapping around so off it came. Last one was a friends company that I wanted to support and liked the shape so didn’t know it was a slick until I got it from him. A few board slides and it cut through in a few spots so I gave it to a friend for an art project. Both were the white epoxy stuff that’s about 1/16”.

@Mbrimson88 yeah it looked like the stuff you posted in that everslick picture. When I ripped it off it left a huge mess. Don’t recall it being overly sticky but got a new deck a couple days later so can’t say I recall that well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rob on February 27, 2024, 10:30:49 PM
I always wondered but when I saw that Indy timeline thing is it me or do theeves look basically like a copycat stage 7??

(https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/independent-truck-stage-7.jpg)

(https://www.subvert.de/media/image/product/32066/md/32066~3.jpg)

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on February 28, 2024, 07:26:15 AM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
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Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.
Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on February 28, 2024, 07:36:31 AM

Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.

Isopropyl alcohol is less toxic and easier on the plastic parts of bearings, so I'd prefer that over acetone.

If you don't want to invest in the Bones cleaning kit, just do this:

1. Pour isopropyl alchohol into a ceramic / glass jar, enough to cover the bearings.
2. Remove bearing shields, put bearings in the jar.
3. Stir for a while with a knife/screwdriver/whatever you have to get the dirt moving --> it'll fall to the bottom.
4. Pick the bearings from the jar, place them on some solid paper/cardboard to dry (don't use thin napkins or anything that might go soggy and end up adding gunk to the bearings).
5. Let the isopropyl alcohol evaporate until dry. This won't take too long.
6. Add just 1 drop (2 is really not needed) of Speed Cream or sewing machine oil (NO WD40 for chrissakes!) per one whole bearing.
7. Spin the bearing to even out the oil.
8. Put shields back on.
9. Proceed to rip the shit out of whatever spot you intend to skate next.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 28, 2024, 07:42:43 AM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
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Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.
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Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.
That sounds extremely likely. Do you have photos of the box by any chance?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 28, 2024, 09:57:06 AM
Is anyone on Bones (wheels) and Ventures (pros like)?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: hiljentaa on February 28, 2024, 10:02:58 AM
Is anyone on Bones (wheels) and Ventures (pros like)?

PJ Ladd, Felipe Gustavo, Trent McClung
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 28, 2024, 10:14:14 AM
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Is anyone on Bones (wheels) and Ventures (pros like)?
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PJ Ladd, Felipe Gustavo, Trent McClung

Cheers and gnar'd
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on February 28, 2024, 11:16:41 AM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
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Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.
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Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.
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That sounds extremely likely. Do you have photos of the box by any chance?
:o ooooooooooo check this article out. Good picture of small details to check.
https://shredzshop.com/blogs/news/everything-about-bones-bearings
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on February 28, 2024, 01:16:51 PM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
[close]


Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.
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Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.
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That sounds extremely likely. Do you have photos of the box by any chance?

Got em from a shop, the box seems legit. Has the made in Switzerland and the since 1981 on it. Took em out yesterday and they rolled like a dream. Now the wheels are spinning. Still gonna grab some speed cream today just in case though cause I was running them raw yesterday
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: newguy on February 28, 2024, 05:16:20 PM
Why did Nike discontinue the original SB zoom mid premiums? Those shoes were a gem.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2024, 05:28:13 PM
I always wondered but when I saw that Indy timeline thing is it me or do theeves look basically like a copycat stage 7??

(https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/independent-truck-stage-7.jpg)

(https://www.subvert.de/media/image/product/32066/md/32066~3.jpg)



Theeve were stage III ish geo (which is why they ran on ACE plates during the prototype phase); they added the wings to keep them from bending; theeve wings were much more 'rounded' (like if you have bad posture - like the old thunders)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 28, 2024, 05:40:00 PM
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Got some bone Swiss for the first time ever, gamechanger. I’m about 6 months in and one of my wheels seized up. Cleaned my bearing with isopropyl alcohol and now three out of four are seizing up. I didn’t have speed cream or anything to put in em. Are they just fucked now or does this happen after cleaning them without using lube?
[close]


Sometimes cleaning them doesn't get everything out, or can remove the good stuff that keeps them rolling.

Quite simply there are options, but lube is 100% required, be it liquid as people have said, or dry grphite powder, but the two do not mix at all either.

WD40 is a cleaning agent too, so although it might work short term, it doesn't work long term for bearings.  It does smell nice though.

I think people often can get confused about some things and what works or doesn't work, or even the fact that cleaning bearings will bring them back to rolling like new, but more often than not it can cause other issues, eg things not put back together correctly in some cases, damaged parts getting them apart and back together.


More than anything, if they have seized up and are not rolling, using something on them to get them rolling again (not just lube) is the main thing, so WD40 does help in that regard, but you can't just drop lube straight in them after that either, as the two work against each other.
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Buy the Bones cleaning water bottle, and follow those instructions. I use acetone to shake and clean the bearings in there, and then keyboard air can spray them out to dry, and then two drops of speed cream.

It’s also entirely possible you have a set of FAKE Swiss.
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That sounds extremely likely. Do you have photos of the box by any chance?
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Got em from a shop, the box seems legit. Has the made in Switzerland and the since 1981 on it. Took em out yesterday and they rolled like a dream. Now the wheels are spinning. Still gonna grab some speed cream today just in case though cause I was running them raw yesterday


I feel like there is a bit of hysteria around fake product, but I don't think there is as much out there as some people might think, or people don't have to worry quite as much as some I have talked to.

As to bearings, sure any bearing will seize up or have issues if it gets wet, gets muddy, sand, dirt or anything else in there, even accidentally dropping sweat onto a board can sometimes get into a bearing - yes it happens - so checking bearings if they are not rolling smoothly is the first thing to do.  Pretty easy taking a wheel off and taking bearings out and seeing if there is some rust buildup on the inside of the wheel or in the bearing, without having to do too much besides a simple anti rust spray, then lube when running smooth and dry.


Places I have worked at have always had those bearing cleaning kits, some sell more than others, but they are still very much a mystery object to a lot of people.

Entirely up to each individual as to what you do, how you go about cleaning bearings (or anything else) but I also think some products or processes are easier than others, which is why I always have things like lube, graphite powder and WD40 close at hand.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on February 28, 2024, 06:19:33 PM
The fake gear epidemic from a few years ago has died down, the TAM (total addressable market) has shrank to the point where counterfeiters no longer see the point in pushing their products. The core market has remained and they are more discerning about where their products are coming from and who they buy from.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 28, 2024, 06:23:35 PM
The fake gear epidemic from a few years ago has died down, the TAM (total addressable market) has shrank to the point where counterfeiters no longer see the point in pushing their products. The core market has remained and they are more discerning about where their products are coming from and who they buy from.


That is good to hear for now and the future.

Guessing there are still some people out there trying to get rid of or unload a whole lot of "cheap leftover" stock, or whatever poor excuse they had said at a time when there was zero excess stock anywhere, which I still find funny.

Wild covid times gave way to a bit more normal every day kind of thing I guess, which is nice.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rob on February 28, 2024, 11:22:31 PM
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I always wondered but when I saw that Indy timeline thing is it me or do theeves look basically like a copycat stage 7??

(https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/independent-truck-stage-7.jpg)

(https://www.subvert.de/media/image/product/32066/md/32066~3.jpg)


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Theeve were stage III ish geo (which is why they ran on ACE plates during the prototype phase); they added the wings to keep them from bending; theeve wings were much more 'rounded' (like if you have bad posture - like the old thunders)

Crazy stuff, so theeves are a rip off ace?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on February 28, 2024, 11:24:41 PM
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Is anyone on Bones (wheels) and Ventures (pros like)?
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PJ Ladd, Felipe Gustavo, Trent McClung
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Cheers and gnar'd
Add Zaprazny
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on February 28, 2024, 11:46:56 PM
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Is anyone on Bones (wheels) and Ventures (pros like)?
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PJ Ladd, Felipe Gustavo, Trent McClung
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Cheers and gnar'd
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Add Zaprazny
As above, cheers and gnar'd
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Xen on February 29, 2024, 12:31:29 PM
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I always wondered but when I saw that Indy timeline thing is it me or do theeves look basically like a copycat stage 7??

(https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/independent-truck-stage-7.jpg)

(https://www.subvert.de/media/image/product/32066/md/32066~3.jpg)


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Theeve were stage III ish geo (which is why they ran on ACE plates during the prototype phase); they added the wings to keep them from bending; theeve wings were much more 'rounded' (like if you have bad posture - like the old thunders)
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Crazy stuff, so theeves are a rip off ace?

I'd say based on - their whole bit was to provide a (GASP) lighter, better turning and more durable indy (this was right around or right before stage XI/ACE Classics)...you know, exactly what Indy should have done back then ;)

Theeve V3s are very very good and hit their initial selling points; they've all but disappeared it seems (you can still buy them direct).
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 29, 2024, 02:49:35 PM
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I always wondered but when I saw that Indy timeline thing is it me or do theeves look basically like a copycat stage 7??


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Theeve were stage III ish geo (which is why they ran on ACE plates during the prototype phase); they added the wings to keep them from bending; theeve wings were much more 'rounded' (like if you have bad posture - like the old thunders)
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Crazy stuff, so theeves are a rip off ace?
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I'd say based on - their whole bit was to provide a (GASP) lighter, better turning and more durable indy (this was right around or right before stage XI/ACE Classics)...you know, exactly what Indy should have done back then ;)

Theeve V3s are very very good and hit their initial selling points; they've all but disappeared it seems (you can still buy them direct).


Funny reading some of the things that come up from their own sites, but it seems like 2007 was the year for them both, with I guess a while leading up to that for things to happen, definitely a few years from what I have heard:



Theeve on their site state established in 2007

https://theevetrucks.com/

Since establishment in 2007 and until the present day, Theeve Trucks holds that; its TiHANGER (one piece axeless titanium truck) is twice as strong and 20% lighter than the average truck...


Ace trucks also started in 2007

https://www.acetrucks.com/about

ACE trucks was founded by Joey Tershay & Steve “Shrewgy” Ruge in 2007. With a wealth of knowledge between the two, their mutual goal was set to create the best performing trucks skateboarding has ever seen...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: goodatmeth on March 01, 2024, 06:03:49 AM
On the topic of theeves! I just got my set of 8" TiAx back that I skated like 10 years ago. They're way too skinny (134mm hanger) for me to skate and I was hoping I could just use the baseplates with anything else. So far it seems like nothing fits though.
Tried ace AF1, thunders, polster, venture. If the AF1s don't fit at all, I'm guessing the classics won't fit either.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rusty knees on March 01, 2024, 01:33:16 PM
anyone else convinced that DC is not going to release anymore LYNX OGs or collabs?
nothing new since november kinda says it all.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dusty Baker on March 03, 2024, 03:26:34 PM
I'm stuck on GT blazers low. I'm thinking on trying Cons One stars or the NB Jamie Foy 306 to switch it up aesthetically. I really love the foot hugging slipper like Blazer feel.

Do the Cons and the NB compare or is this a stick with the blazers situation?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 03, 2024, 04:54:21 PM
Which bushings should I buy to get the original venture bushings feel? Mine are done unfortunately
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 03, 2024, 05:47:08 PM
Is ProTec going out of business?

I got some money as a Christmas gift & wanted a new helmet since my old one was roached.

The Protec website has had a maintenance message for months.  I checked the big online skate shops and they seem to mostly stock s1 and triple 8.  I eventually bought a NOS protec helmet from eBay, but even now, a couple weeks later, their site still has the same maintenance message. 
Has anyone heard anything?

Sites working for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manuduncan on March 03, 2024, 05:58:25 PM
Which bushings should I buy to get the original venture bushings feel? Mine are done unfortunately

i asked this question in the venture thread the other day

i ended up buying venture's loose truck conversion kit which comes with green bushings, and it made my ventures into aces pretty much so i had to kind or crank them down 

might try throwing indy stock bushings in there and see how that feels
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 03, 2024, 09:01:59 PM
I'm stuck on GT blazers low. I'm thinking on trying Cons One stars or the NB Jamie Foy 306 to switch it up aesthetically. I really love the foot hugging slipper like Blazer feel.

Do the Cons and the NB compare or is this a stick with the blazers situation?

first thing i noticed about the GTs was they're basically a Nike One star. I didn't notice much of a difference, save the GT seems to be a bit taller and sturdier, and it's definitely has a blunter toe shape. My feet didn't like something about the fit tho.

Idk about the internal specifics, but both are basically the same to me. I don't think there's any harm in switching up those two.

No input on the Foys

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 04, 2024, 02:36:16 AM
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Which bushings should I buy to get the original venture bushings feel? Mine are done unfortunately
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i asked this question in the venture thread the other day

i ended up buying venture's loose truck conversion kit which comes with green bushings, and it made my ventures into aces pretty much so i had to kind or crank them down 

might try throwing indy stock bushings in there and see how that feels


Yeah leaving those bushings with the kingpin in the "normal" position is going to turn them into the most unstable trucks ever for a normal person, so tightening them down to where they are comfortable to skate might look ridiculous, but that is at least going to make them work well enough.

Another guy has put a few flat washers in between the usual washer and the kingpin so that worked well.  Looks better than three or so threads showing on the kingpin anyway.

Indy bushings definitely work, as do most regular height cylinder bushings too.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 05, 2024, 12:27:38 AM
Been on 8.25 with 14 WB for already a while, feels that it stopped working and found a cheap Unity 8.25 14.38, should I take the bullet?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 05, 2024, 02:13:31 AM
Been on 8.25 with 14 WB for already a while, feels that it stopped working and found a cheap Unity 8.25 14.38, should I take the bullet?

i too have the syndrome where i need to radically change things.
i feel better on a longer wb.
that doesn’t mean i land more tricks.
i feel better tho.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on March 05, 2024, 05:33:35 AM
Been on 8.25 with 14 WB for already a while, feels that it stopped working and found a cheap Unity 8.25 14.38, should I take the bullet?

You should, 14.38 is a solid all-around wb. If you ride even a little transition, you'll like it. I went from being a long time 14.38 wb guy to 14 inch and even below wb's and enjoyed them for a bit, but I started to miss the solid feel of the longer wb. Currently on 14.25 on my "mostly street" complete and back to 14.38 on my "I wish I was Grant Taylor" complete.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gleefull508 on March 05, 2024, 06:14:24 AM
I'm stuck on GT blazers low. I'm thinking on trying Cons One stars or the NB Jamie Foy 306 to switch it up aesthetically. I really love the foot hugging slipper like Blazer feel.

Do the Cons and the NB compare or is this a stick with the blazers situation?

one star is extremely similar, foy is pretty similar as well but god do they look horrid

just dont get that alltimers colorway of the one star that you see on sale everywhere they fall apart in a week
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 05, 2024, 07:18:24 AM
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Been on 8.25 with 14 WB for already a while, feels that it stopped working and found a cheap Unity 8.25 14.38, should I take the bullet?
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You should, 14.38 is a solid all-around wb. If you ride even a little transition, you'll like it. I went from being a long time 14.38 wb guy to 14 inch and even below wb's and enjoyed them for a bit, but I started to miss the solid feel of the longer wb. Currently on 14.25 on my "mostly street" complete and back to 14.38 on my "I wish I was Grant Taylor" complete.
You got me with the GT feeling.
Gnar 'd
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on March 06, 2024, 01:21:24 PM
does anyone make a slip on with a wide forefoot
or are slips just not for me
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 06, 2024, 01:54:34 PM
Spain/euro pals, is x3mboardshop.com a legit seller? I kinda want a Comet Shred...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on March 06, 2024, 02:00:12 PM
I'm stuck on GT blazers low. I'm thinking on trying Cons One stars or the NB Jamie Foy 306 to switch it up aesthetically. I really love the foot hugging slipper like Blazer feel.

Do the Cons and the NB compare or is this a stick with the blazers situation?

I’ve been on blazers for a while now. Now exclusively mids but did a year on the lows (had to save my ankles).

I had a few pairs of old one stars (non skate) that I got on eBay and really liked so mid last year I tried the cons one stars. They seriously fucked up my achilles and heel in some weird way that I’m still dealing with.

I wore them for about two weeks as chillers and the fit was super strange. Once they kinda broke in I skated them and it was a nightmare. The heel lock caused some weird pinch pain in my achilles and heel. I know people that love them so maybe I just had a weird pair. I gave em to a kid at the skatepark and he had to take the insoles out to skate them and still had the same issue I did. By the time we both got rid of them they looked practically new.

Fully acknowledging this could have just been a messed up pair but I’d say the fit and performance of the blazer lows blew the one stars out of the water even before the foot pain.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 07, 2024, 02:32:34 AM
Is a worldwide thing that finding 7/8 Allen hardware is almost impossible?
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Post by: rawbertson. on March 07, 2024, 06:56:14 AM
I think I have kinda fat feet...

the Foy 306 shoe seems to fit my foot perfectly. I only wore Busenitz for a long time and they seemed to fit my foot really well from what I remember.
Es Accel OGs fit my feet OK, almost a little sloppy from what I remember though.
I have some ASICS Japan S that seem very comfortable but I haven't wore them for an extended period of time yet


Then I tried Tyshawns too narrow, Half Cabs, One Stars, GT Blazer Low, they all kinda pinched my pinky toes a bit.

Any other Wide Foot skate shoe recomendations?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 07, 2024, 07:32:37 AM
Is a worldwide thing that finding 7/8 Allen hardware is almost impossible?
Was at my local (French Alps) last night and they were fully stocked. PM me if you need I can send you some.
Titus has them
https://www.titus-shop.com/collections/skate-accessories-hardware
I'm sure plenty of other shops do as well.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gleefull508 on March 07, 2024, 09:29:22 AM
I think I have kinda fat feet...

the Foy 306 shoe seems to fit my foot perfectly. I only wore Busenitz for a long time and they seemed to fit my foot really well from what I remember.
Es Accel OGs fit my feet OK, almost a little sloppy from what I remember though.
I have some ASICS Japan S that seem very comfortable but I haven't wore them for an extended period of time yet


Then I tried Tyshawns too narrow, Half Cabs, One Stars, GT Blazer Low, they all kinda pinched my pinky toes a bit.

Any other Wide Foot skate shoe recomendations?

dunks, DC shanahans, NB 440 or 1010
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Gleefull508 on March 07, 2024, 09:30:56 AM
does anyone make a slip on with a wide forefoot
or are slips just not for me

I skated the Emerica slips a couple years ago and they fit wider
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 07, 2024, 09:39:11 AM
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Is a worldwide thing that finding 7/8 Allen hardware is almost impossible?
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Was at my local (French Alps) last night and they were fully stocked. PM me if you need I can send you some.
Titus has them
https://www.titus-shop.com/collections/skate-accessories-hardware
I'm sure plenty of other shops do as well.
Found some in here, I appreciate it man :)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 07, 2024, 02:35:36 PM
Is a worldwide thing that finding 7/8 Allen hardware is almost impossible?


I think it is just where ever you are looking.

What do local shops mostly have there where you are?


There are still way too many options in 7/8" Allen bolts almost everywhere I look here, but yet I am sure in some places, they prefer Phillips 1" or whatever it was that was the number one selling product back in the time that people choose to get them - thinking Jamie Thomas interview re bolts from a while back.


Even some countries might have more or less of this or that too, depending on what the market trend is, or what the distribution companies are bringing in.


* I feel like Phillips 7/8" are way harder to find here though, especially Shortys and similar brands with smaller heads.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: doomstation55 on March 07, 2024, 09:12:43 PM
Is there a current deck out there that has a square ish nose and tail that’s mellow? Skating a quasi and I love the square but hate how steep it feels, especially the nose on switch/nollie tricks. Preferably on an 8.5 or wider too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on March 08, 2024, 01:25:06 AM
Is there a current deck out there that has a square ish nose and tail that’s mellow? Skating a quasi and I love the square but hate how steep it feels, especially the nose on switch/nollie tricks. Preferably on an 8.5 or wider too.

AWS and Habitat offer a similar or maybe identical shape, but have often felt pretty mellow, at least compared to how to steep the FA/Hockey/Quasi blunt shape tends to be.

I had 8.5s, for reference. Not sure on their 8.6/8.75 or 9.0s, but I assume they're similar to the 8.5 on mellowness
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2024, 02:48:03 PM
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Is there a current deck out there that has a square ish nose and tail that’s mellow? Skating a quasi and I love the square but hate how steep it feels, especially the nose on switch/nollie tricks. Preferably on an 8.5 or wider too.
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AWS and Habitat offer a similar or maybe identical shape, but have often felt pretty mellow, at least compared to how to steep the FA/Hockey/Quasi blunt shape tends to be.

I had 8.5s, for reference. Not sure on their 8.6/8.75 or 9.0s, but I assume they're similar to the 8.5 on mellowness


PS Stix are well known for having more mellow tails and steeper noses.  That is the Professor's version of a multi tool.

As for other BBS versions of the Quasi / GX1000 boards, which have the same shapes, it is down to checking the boards more so than all of them, some being a bit steeper / more mellow than others.


FA / Hockey are the steepest of all, but Quasi / GX1000 can be right up there too, from some I have seen.

AWS / Habitat / Metal also use the blunt shapes, often longer boards, shorter wheelbases, very long kicks, all on BBS so again some steeper, some a bit more mellow, but more even than PS Stix in terms of both kick angles.


I would almost think that the DLX - Rreal Full SE type boards, especially marked IV, but even III can also be blunt / squared off kicks, but way more mellow than anything else, as well as feeling really good overall, eg good dimensions and come in most sizes.

A recent Real 8.5 Full SE board was very mellow that I had come through my hands, marked IV and flatter than most I have seen, so I think given they are always out there, that might be the best option.


There are others out there, but right this minute I can't think of other brands that have squared off looking kicks, without them being actual shaped boards, which I don't know if you would want?


Example:

https://www.tactics.com/real/busenitz-overlord-85-full-se-shape-skateboard-deck/orange


(https://www.tactics.com/a/f00z/1b/real-busenitz-overlord-85-full-se-shape-skateboard-deck-top.webp)


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 09, 2024, 10:18:09 AM
Can any English pals give me the scoop on Aquascutum? Are their clothes comfortable and true to size, is it a wack brand, etc
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 09, 2024, 11:49:50 AM
How the fuck SW Lazer back lip on a handrail?

Think about it. You do the god awful SW Lazer. Then you gotta get your foot over the rail and get on going the opposite direction of the scoop . It doesn't compute in my brain at all.

I guess on like a baby flat bar but still.

That blind kids demented
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 09, 2024, 02:14:21 PM
Can any English pals give me the scoop on Aquascutum? Are their clothes comfortable and true to size, is it a wack brand, etc

I have a raincoat of theirs. It's nice. Keeps the rain off.
I'd put them in the category "once elite, now just solid" alongside Brooks Bros, Burberry, Hart Schaffner Marx, etc.

Now, if you get your hands on a vintage item, that's different.
Caveat: not British, just opinionated.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on March 09, 2024, 11:33:14 PM
What size trucks have people been running on the Passport spade shape? Just ordered one need to get new trucks for it I’m an impatient fucker and don’t want to wait until it gets here to measure it up.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 10, 2024, 04:43:40 PM
What size trucks have people been running on the Passport spade shape? Just ordered one need to get new trucks for it I’m an impatient fucker and don’t want to wait until it gets here to measure it up.


Is it the 9 or maybe 8.8 board?

Most likely 159s / 8.75 axle trucks would fit best, but there are quite a few in the Setups thread when I put SPADE in the search.

This is maybe the main post though that I thought looked the best.



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Not big enough for the big boy thread, not egg enough for the egg shape thread.

Passport 8.8 spade
159 hollows
Theeve Ti bolts
Some conical full 53s temporarily while I wait for OG classics
NOS Powell Thin Rib
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spade is a great shape, very very similar to Shin surf shape, just a tad less square. Love mine!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CS3ueR5FKa2/?utm_medium=copy_link
 Top looks like this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRQpUtQFMsD/?utm_medium=copy_link


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Post by: Orangepulp1000 on March 10, 2024, 06:08:11 PM
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What size trucks have people been running on the Passport spade shape? Just ordered one need to get new trucks for it I’m an impatient fucker and don’t want to wait until it gets here to measure it up.
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Is it the 9 or maybe 8.8 board?

Most likely 159s / 8.75 axle trucks would fit best, but there are quite a few in the Setups thread when I put SPADE in the search.

This is maybe the main post though that I thought looked the best.



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(https://i.ibb.co/WympjdX/525-BCC68-50-D0-4736-ACBE-8262624032-F1.png)

Not big enough for the big boy thread, not egg enough for the egg shape thread.

Passport 8.8 spade
159 hollows
Theeve Ti bolts
Some conical full 53s temporarily while I wait for OG classics
NOS Powell Thin Rib
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spade is a great shape, very very similar to Shin surf shape, just a tad less square. Love mine!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CS3ueR5FKa2/?utm_medium=copy_link
 Top looks like this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRQpUtQFMsD/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Thank for your help!.
Passport list it as a 9 x 31.5 x 14.5 but I’m finding conflicting info online from 8.8 listings to 9.125 so it has me a little confused. I’m assuming it either the generator gs5 shape or something very similar to that as I’ve found quite a few listings with specs labeled as 9 x 31.375 x 14.35 which ties in with the gs5.



Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tzhangdox on March 11, 2024, 11:33:32 PM
If a shoe has an ollie hole in it, but has another fabric layer under, still feels fine and tread is good, but looks kinda like shit. Do you still skate it or are you retiring it? (Tiagos)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 11, 2024, 11:39:11 PM
If a shoe has an ollie hole in it, but has another fabric layer under, still feels fine and tread is good, but looks kinda like shit. Do you still skate it or are you retiring it? (Tiagos)

i tend to do the worst thing and put it into rotation, so i have a shit looking shoe for even looooooonger.

these days i don’t care what i look like, so im not a good source, but i do think that i like the way a well
work skate shoe looks, more so these days.
but not like when you see the duct tape and such. always somebody with etnies that goes way too far.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on March 12, 2024, 12:52:18 AM
If a shoe has an ollie hole in it, but has another fabric layer under, still feels fine and tread is good, but looks kinda like shit. Do you still skate it or are you retiring it? (Tiagos)
I keep skating them until they’re fully done (typically no tread left in my case). Once I start skating a pair of shoes they’re dedicated to skating so I’m not going to work or the store with them. Also have to agree with Ok that a well worn pair of skate shoes is a look I like.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on March 12, 2024, 07:13:50 AM
If a shoe has an ollie hole in it, but has another fabric layer under, still feels fine and tread is good, but looks kinda like shit. Do you still skate it or are you retiring it? (Tiagos)
I feel blessed to get an Ollie hole before the sole smooths out and gets slippery.

I’m skating as long as I can with it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 12, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Are Polar slicks heavier than a regular non-slick board?

I've heard yes and I'm inclined to believe it, just wanted some more opinions.


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I have a raincoat of theirs. It's nice. Keeps the rain off.
I'd put them in the category "once elite, now just solid" alongside Brooks Bros, Burberry, Hart Schaffner Marx, etc.

Now, if you get your hands on a vintage item, that's different.
Caveat: not British, just opinionated.

Edit - Sorry just saw this now. Thanks for the input my guy, I like their designs and I'm down for solid haha
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 13, 2024, 09:42:25 AM
Anyone here might have experiences with building DIY obstacles at a public skatepark?

The homie and I want to build a wheeliepad / small ledge at our local park. Like early in the morning and then look if it gets torn down.

If we do it well, why should anyone have a problem with it, right? I know we live in Germany and maybe the obstacle needs to fuflfill some safety standards or some shit.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on March 13, 2024, 05:27:49 PM
Anyone here might have experiences with building DIY obstacles at a public skatepark?

The homie and I want to build a wheeliepad / small ledge at our local park. Like early in the morning and then look if it gets torn down.

If we do it well, why should anyone have a problem with it, right? I know we live in Germany and maybe the obstacle needs to fuflfill some safety standards or some shit.
That’s exactly what I want to do, too, but I’m going the route legit with the neighborhood association to see if they’ll fund a professional build of filling in a space and adding a manual pad.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Luismps on March 14, 2024, 03:32:00 PM
Somewhere I heard that the dimensions of the Primitive decks had changed.
Does anyone know the current tail length of the new decks on 8.25?
Still mellow?

thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on March 14, 2024, 10:13:35 PM
Setting up some Thunder 151s with stock bushings on a twin tip. If I don't like them stock and want to achieve a similar feel as my Indy 149s (90A conical) what bushings could I try? I want them to still feel somewhat surfy like Indy but desire the pros of stability and rebound that Thunder is supposedly known for.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 14, 2024, 10:40:50 PM
Setting up some Thunder 151s with stock bushings on a twin tip. If I don't like them stock and want to achieve a similar feel as my Indy 149s (90A conical) what bushings could I try? I want them to still feel somewhat surfy like Indy but desire the pros of stability and rebound that Thunder is supposedly known for.


I don't know about different bushings to make Thunder trucks feel like Independent trucks, (besides trying stock Indy bushings in there - yeah they do work) but I would usually put a thin rubber DIY riser in there (or anything else) to get them a little higher so they will turn more fully than Thunder usually do, as coming from usually skating Indy trucks, I always turn too deep and wheelbite with nothing underneath.  The ones I make are 2 mm and they really fit nicely.

The two other ways to offset this is a board with wheel wells or carve / grind out where the wheelbite happens, so I can turn more than what the trucks allow usually.

I always feel funny putting other brand bushings in some trucks, but when tried, yes any do work well enough in the other brands, swapping in / out Indy, Thunder, Venture, maybe not Ace as they are a lot taller, but any of those three, especially the conical Indy bushings work well enough in other Thunder trucks I have tried.

More than anything, just going easy on the stock Thunder bushings for the first session or two and Thunder bushings really skate well as is, but to start with they often feel way to mushy, but they do firm up a lot, or at least a lot more than some other bushings do.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on March 14, 2024, 11:12:48 PM
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Setting up some Thunder 151s with stock bushings on a twin tip. If I don't like them stock and want to achieve a similar feel as my Indy 149s (90A conical) what bushings could I try? I want them to still feel somewhat surfy like Indy but desire the pros of stability and rebound that Thunder is supposedly known for.
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I don't know about different bushings to make Thunder trucks feel like Independent trucks, (besides trying stock Indy bushings in there - yeah they do work) but I would usually put a thin rubber DIY riser in there (or anything else) to get them a little higher so they will turn more fully than Thunder usually do, as coming from usually skating Indy trucks, I always turn too deep and wheelbite with nothing underneath.  The ones I make are 2 mm and they really fit nicely.

The two other ways to offset this is a board with wheel wells or carve / grind out where the wheelbite happens, so I can turn more than what the trucks allow usually.

I always feel funny putting other brand bushings in some trucks, but when tried, yes any do work well enough in the other brands, swapping in / out Indy, Thunder, Venture, maybe not Ace as they are a lot taller, but any of those three, especially the conical Indy bushings work well enough in other Thunder trucks I have tried.

More than anything, just going easy on the stock Thunder bushings for the first session or two and Thunder bushings really skate well as is, but to start with they often feel way to mushy, but they do firm up a lot, or at least a lot more than some other bushings do.

Appreciate it! I haven't skated Thunder since 2009-2010 I believe, so I don't know what their stock bushings feel like anymore. Already got risers ready to use to give me a similar height. Maybe that's enough.

Wasn't sure if Thunder offered different duros that achieve similar effects as the different Indy bushings do.

I'll remember to go easy on stock and see how they fare for me before scoping out alts
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 15, 2024, 04:24:59 AM
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Setting up some Thunder 151s with stock bushings on a twin tip. If I don't like them stock and want to achieve a similar feel as my Indy 149s (90A conical) what bushings could I try? I want them to still feel somewhat surfy like Indy but desire the pros of stability and rebound that Thunder is supposedly known for.
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I don't know about different bushings to make Thunder trucks feel like Independent trucks, (besides trying stock Indy bushings in there - yeah they do work) but I would usually put a thin rubber DIY riser in there (or anything else) to get them a little higher so they will turn more fully than Thunder usually do, as coming from usually skating Indy trucks, I always turn too deep and wheelbite with nothing underneath.  The ones I make are 2 mm and they really fit nicely.

The two other ways to offset this is a board with wheel wells or carve / grind out where the wheelbite happens, so I can turn more than what the trucks allow usually.

I always feel funny putting other brand bushings in some trucks, but when tried, yes any do work well enough in the other brands, swapping in / out Indy, Thunder, Venture, maybe not Ace as they are a lot taller, but any of those three, especially the conical Indy bushings work well enough in other Thunder trucks I have tried.

More than anything, just going easy on the stock Thunder bushings for the first session or two and Thunder bushings really skate well as is, but to start with they often feel way to mushy, but they do firm up a lot, or at least a lot more than some other bushings do.
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Appreciate it! I haven't skated Thunder since 2009-2010 I believe, so I don't know what their stock bushings feel like anymore. Already got risers ready to use to give me a similar height. Maybe that's enough.

Wasn't sure if Thunder offered different duros that achieve similar effects as the different Indy bushings do.

I'll remember to go easy on stock and see how they fare for me before scoping out alts

Just my personal preference. I don't like the feel of conical bushings, no matter the hardness. Barrel bushings for me. Thunder 148s are on my setup now. Indy 90a stock bottom barrel, Indy 92a top bushing, but I cut the top bushing down like 1.5mm. And I replaced all washers with Indy ones because the Thunder washers seemed to dig into the bushings.

Everything feels pretty stable for flips and surfy when I want to turn. I am at 159 lbs now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 15, 2024, 11:17:14 AM
Probably pretty obvious, but does anyone feel like certain shoes are better for certain tricks? Specifically heelflips 

Some shoes will not allow me to land them, like at all. With others, every heelflip comes out like a banger

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ok on March 16, 2024, 08:00:52 AM
Probably pretty obvious, but does anyone feel like certain shoes are better for certain tricks? Specifically heelflips 

Some shoes will not allow me to land them, like at all. With others, every heelflip comes out like a banger

tell me the ones that lead to bangers. immediately.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Luismps on March 16, 2024, 08:08:12 AM
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Probably pretty obvious, but does anyone feel like certain shoes are better for certain tricks? Specifically heelflips 

Some shoes will not allow me to land them, like at all. With others, every heelflip comes out like a banger
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tell me the ones that lead to bangers. immediately.

I don't know why the Rowan were perfect for the heelflip but the 440Lo are for me the best for a compromise between heelflip and kickflip
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Luismps on March 16, 2024, 08:11:00 AM
Somewhere I heard that the dimensions of the Primitive decks had changed.
Does anyone know the current tail length of the new decks on 8.25?
Still mellow?

thanks!

Can anyone help me with this question so I don't regret it? 😕

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rosemaryBB on March 16, 2024, 02:33:03 PM
Randomly speculating that this specific shape would be great for me if anyone knows if any companies actually makes it - 8.5 egg that tapers to around 8.375 at the trucks with a roughly 14” wb
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DarkPools on March 17, 2024, 12:11:48 AM
Probably pretty obvious, but does anyone feel like certain shoes are better for certain tricks? Specifically heelflips 

Some shoes will not allow me to land them, like at all. With others, every heelflip comes out like a banger
fat.

1000% agree some hoes are made for tricks.

My personals below:

Blazer Mid: Kickflip, Tre Flip, Switch Heel & Heelflip too

Joslin/Marana: Heelflip, Kickflip, Backside Flip, Switch Heel, & Switch Front Heel

CONS One Star Mid: Switch Heel & Heelflip

Dunk High & Low: Kickflip, Heelflip, Switch Heel, Tre Flip

KSL G6: Kickflip, Tre Flip, Backside Flip

Pretty much any shoe that has a thick-ish collar around your ankle and a stable sole. Also, vulcs don't really heelflip well for me unless it's a thicker one like Arto 2, 2010s DVS, or a Half Cab/Blazer Mid kinda shoe
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on March 17, 2024, 11:36:44 AM
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Probably pretty obvious, but does anyone feel like certain shoes are better for certain tricks? Specifically heelflips 

Some shoes will not allow me to land them, like at all. With others, every heelflip comes out like a banger
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tell me the ones that lead to bangers. immediately.

Someone noted the Rowans, and I agree. Half Cabs.... I think most of the beefier Vans models would heelflip pretty well. The Codes from Hours have some sweet heelflip-ability, skating those now.

Most Emericas I skated "back in the day" were great for heels, but haven't worn them since the Reynolds G6

Also agree with DarkPools summary (poofy collar, wide sole, a bit bulky) but would also add minimal side panels and stitching helps with consistency too. in contrast, One Stars worked really well for me also
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 18, 2024, 01:30:10 AM
808
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: French manicure on March 18, 2024, 12:48:34 PM
Anyone around here skate Leo's Nike shoe? If so, how was it? I was thinking about picking up a pair.  I haven't had any Nike's in a long time, so, I'm not really sure about their quality these days.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slaab900turbo on March 20, 2024, 04:53:09 PM
Any brands out there that have more “interesting” popsicle based shapes? I feel like a lot of brands are just pushing generic BBS shapes.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: mamba on March 20, 2024, 06:04:00 PM
Any brands out there that have more “interesting” popsicle based shapes? I feel like a lot of brands are just pushing generic BBS shapes.

Welcome? They corny as fuck tho
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2024, 07:55:40 PM
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Any brands out there that have more “interesting” popsicle based shapes? I feel like a lot of brands are just pushing generic BBS shapes.
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Welcome? They corny as fuck tho


Yeah Welcome and Polar are the two main ones that come to mind, often with a squared off nose / tail and fairly normal everything else, along with their very specifically shaped boards which I am guessing you are not really meaning.

Look up shovel nose for another one, some brands like Doom Sayers had that one for a while, as did Antihero but I don't know if either still do anything like that any more.

Black Label had the punk point for Jason Adams, as did some other brands, pretty much a popsicle with a pointy nose, some more pointed than others, which was also not a bad board to ride, until it hit something hard right on the end.

There are egg shapes around a lot too, but not sure if that fits in to your view of popsicle based shaped boards.


I think that is about it right this minute.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: gringo_viejo on March 20, 2024, 08:17:17 PM
Anti-hero Grosso shovel shape is beautiful to me and very skateable.

Edit: they are bbs so maybe not what you're looking for oops.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 20, 2024, 11:15:29 PM
Anti-hero Grosso shovel shape is beautiful to me and very skateable.

Edit: they are bbs so maybe not what you're looking for oops.


I think you are good, the person saying more the generic BBS shapes, not BBS wood in general, which all of those brands are anyway.

Most of the smaller brands tend to go with the BBS / Generator shapes, I think they were getting at.

That's my take on it anyway.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 21, 2024, 12:37:49 AM
Most of us I'm guessing know of:

http://www.artofskateboarding.com

Why hasn't some one done a similar archive of skate shoes?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slaab900turbo on March 21, 2024, 06:56:12 AM
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Anti-hero Grosso shovel shape is beautiful to me and very skateable.

Edit: they are bbs so maybe not what you're looking for oops.
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I think you are good, the person saying more the generic BBS shapes, not BBS wood in general, which all of those brands are anyway.

Most of the smaller brands tend to go with the BBS / Generator shapes, I think they were getting at.

That's my take on it anyway.

Exactly. No complaints with BBS wood. Just seems like a lot of companies are putting out the same product just with different graphics.
Appreciate the recommendations.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slaab900turbo on March 21, 2024, 06:57:10 AM
Most of us I'm guessing know of:

http://www.artofskateboarding.com

Why hasn't some one done a similar archive of skate shoes?

That would be cool.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JM on March 21, 2024, 07:06:28 AM
Is there life after skating?

(It’s rainy and cloudy out… feeling particularly gloomy)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 21, 2024, 01:02:07 PM
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Anti-hero Grosso shovel shape is beautiful to me and very skateable.

Edit: they are bbs so maybe not what you're looking for oops.
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I think you are good, the person saying more the generic BBS shapes, not BBS wood in general, which all of those brands are anyway.

Most of the smaller brands tend to go with the BBS / Generator shapes, I think they were getting at.

That's my take on it anyway.
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Exactly. No complaints with BBS wood. Just seems like a lot of companies are putting out the same product just with different graphics.
Appreciate the recommendations.

well fa/hockey was the main one that started doing the extremely blunted noses.

DLX has its own kind of shape. Its a pointier tail with a more blunted nose but its nice and round still. that is a horrible way to describe it but thats the best i can come up with. DLX often have short tails like 6.5" on some of their boards too, and they experiment with WB a lottt more than most brands. were they they first to do twin tail?

Primitive Boards have very blunt kicks but not as insane as hockey. more practical for shove tricks imo. they have longer tails at 6.75"

Polar boards have lots of options, some have wheel wells and shit. there is some experimentation with WB and kicks and stuff but i dont know the details as well.

Baker / Deathwish seemed to offer "Mellow Concave" for a long time that was really the only thing i saw from them that was out of the ordinary

girl / chocolate are often short wb, they have thier own kinda shape as well i dont know how id describe it, more on the pointy side id say. they do a lot of twin tail. NOT BBS i guess i have drifted off topic now

gotta just go in the shpo and see for yourself!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slaab900turbo on March 21, 2024, 04:23:57 PM
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Anti-hero Grosso shovel shape is beautiful to me and very skateable.

Edit: they are bbs so maybe not what you're looking for oops.
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I think you are good, the person saying more the generic BBS shapes, not BBS wood in general, which all of those brands are anyway.

Most of the smaller brands tend to go with the BBS / Generator shapes, I think they were getting at.

That's my take on it anyway.
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Exactly. No complaints with BBS wood. Just seems like a lot of companies are putting out the same product just with different graphics.
Appreciate the recommendations.
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well fa/hockey was the main one that started doing the extremely blunted noses.

DLX has its own kind of shape. Its a pointier tail with a more blunted nose but its nice and round still. that is a horrible way to describe it but thats the best i can come up with. DLX often have short tails like 6.5" on some of their boards too, and they experiment with WB a lottt more than most brands. were they they first to do twin tail?

Primitive Boards have very blunt kicks but not as insane as hockey. more practical for shove tricks imo. they have longer tails at 6.75"

Polar boards have lots of options, some have wheel wells and shit. there is some experimentation with WB and kicks and stuff but i dont know the details as well.

Baker / Deathwish seemed to offer "Mellow Concave" for a long time that was really the only thing i saw from them that was out of the ordinary

girl / chocolate are often short wb, they have thier own kinda shape as well i dont know how id describe it, more on the pointy side id say. they do a lot of twin tail. NOT BBS i guess i have drifted off topic now

gotta just go in the shpo and see for yourself!!

I think I’ll grab a Huffer and a Polar with wheel wells. Fuck it.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: radcunt on March 21, 2024, 05:14:35 PM
Any brands out there that have more “interesting” popsicle based shapes? I feel like a lot of brands are just pushing generic BBS shapes.
I like the Hockey boards ase they're like a really wide popsicle, with square nose and tail.  Feels nicer to ride and better to look at for me rather than the more normal rounded tail & nose.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on March 23, 2024, 07:32:16 AM
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Most of us I'm guessing know of:

http://www.artofskateboarding.com

Why hasn't some one done a similar archive of skate shoes?
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That would be cool.

skately had a good one and you can see some of it thru web archive. village psychic fucked around with it too but they added like 5 shoes and quit lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 23, 2024, 07:34:36 AM
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Most of us I'm guessing know of:

http://www.artofskateboarding.com

Why hasn't some one done a similar archive of skate shoes?
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That would be cool.
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skately had a good one and you can see some of it thru web archive. village psychic fucked around with it too but they added like 5 shoes and quit lol
Cheers will check it out.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Barack Hussein on March 23, 2024, 08:21:52 AM
Do you guys find that certain trucks are better for hill bombing than others? I feel like some people are like "I'd never bomb a hill on my aces." But that and Indy are all I've ever ridden.. I do tend to get speed wobbles...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 23, 2024, 02:28:04 PM
Do you guys find that certain trucks are better for hill bombing than others? I feel like some people are like "I'd never bomb a hill on my aces." But that and Indy are all I've ever ridden.. I do tend to get speed wobbles...


I think it is down to technique more than anything.  That and strong ankles.

I would see people eat shit so easily on anything, any brand if they were not balanced or stood too tall, but more than anything, it is not just about tightening things down a lot, which some people do, but more just getting used to it and staying low.

That said, seeing some of those guys with super loose trucks (any brand) just power through and not have issues must have really strong ankles to hold the board steady and stop the side to side wiggles that result in speed wobbles and bye bye slams, but even just tightening down trucks one full turn makes them so much more stable anyway.

Might not be fun to skate, compared to how you might usually have them, but it might save you some skin, so said a few guys who do the same for vert ramps and only ride one board, just tighten the trucks down one full turn for any real "go fast" type of skating, then loosen them back off a full turn for everything else.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: slaab900turbo on March 23, 2024, 04:45:17 PM
I’m sure it’s been discussed, but any truck recommendations for a Polar Dane 1?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 25, 2024, 06:22:47 AM
I am trying to find this clip, I thought it was from Santa Cruz Speed Freaks but I guess it wasnt. But it is of a guy blasting a method over a ladder off a launch ramp. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 25, 2024, 07:49:45 AM
I am trying to find this clip, I thought it was from Santa Cruz Speed Freaks but I guess it wasnt. But it is of a guy blasting a method over a ladder off a launch ramp. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Dammit rawb, this is for gear, not videos

Maybe you're thinking of the clip at the beginning here. It's from an H-street video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Yo71iQ21I
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 25, 2024, 07:57:45 AM
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I am trying to find this clip, I thought it was from Santa Cruz Speed Freaks but I guess it wasnt. But it is of a guy blasting a method over a ladder off a launch ramp. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Dammit rawb, this is for gear, not videos

Maybe you're thinking of the clip at the beginning here. It's from an H-street video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Yo71iQ21I

yes this is it, thank you!!!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on March 26, 2024, 06:39:35 AM
What do you guys think about ACE AF1 trucks?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 26, 2024, 06:49:24 AM
Best trucks ever but skateboarding is very subjective so...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on March 26, 2024, 11:28:02 AM
What do you guys think about ACE AF1 trucks?

I have a set of the 60s, just the standard, not hollows or lows or anything like that
after ONLY riding indy for a long long time, and coming from the 159s, I was scared they were going to be way too turny so I put these Indy Hard bushings in which was the dumbest idea ever. Rode it like that for awhile and while it was fine, something didn't seem right. It was very loose and super turny. I put the stock bushings back in and i realized how dumb that was. They are completely different size - ace bushings dont fit in indys at all, so indy bushings are way too small for ace trucks. I only tightened the trucks maybe 1 thread and I found they were a very good turn without being too wheel bitey.  I put smaller wheels on as well to mitigate this further, 54mm conical fulls (worn down to maybe 52). this was on a 9" Villani Egg. the board felt really perfect once I set it up with those wheels. it felt really stable. Ace are not as high as indys so i recommend keeping the wheels smaller like 54mm max. and having a wider surface area made the setup feel a lot more stable. the turning is so carvy, if you add more "tippyness" to it it feels too wild for me and hard to skate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on March 26, 2024, 11:58:37 AM
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What do you guys think about ACE AF1 trucks?
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I have a set of the 60s, just the standard, not hollows or lows or anything like that
after ONLY riding indy for a long long time, and coming from the 159s, I was scared they were going to be way too turny so I put these Indy Hard bushings in which was the dumbest idea ever. Rode it like that for awhile and while it was fine, something didn't seem right. It was very loose and super turny. I put the stock bushings back in and i realized how dumb that was. They are completely different size - ace bushings dont fit in indys at all, so indy bushings are way too small for ace trucks. I only tightened the trucks maybe 1 thread and I found they were a very good turn without being too wheel bitey.  I put smaller wheels on as well to mitigate this further, 54mm conical fulls (worn down to maybe 52). this was on a 9" Villani Egg. the board felt really perfect once I set it up with those wheels. it felt really stable. Ace are not as high as indys so i recommend keeping the wheels smaller like 54mm max. and having a wider surface area made the setup feel a lot more stable. the turning is so carvy, if you add more "tippyness" to it it feels too wild for me and hard to skate.

Thanks, very good contrast and comparison write-up. I'll stick with Independent Stage 11's.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: French manicure on March 26, 2024, 12:29:52 PM
What brands/shapes are Limosine comparable with - never skated one and I've been wanting to try a Max Palmer board for a while now.....I'm skating a Krooked board at the moment and love that shape.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: texastoast on March 26, 2024, 02:44:29 PM
What brands/shapes are Limosine comparable with - never skated one and I've been wanting to try a Max Palmer board for a while now.....I'm skating a Krooked board at the moment and love that shape.

polar popsicles
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on March 26, 2024, 04:19:33 PM
What do you guys think about ACE AF1 trucks?

great truck. last way longer than the classics... however, i still think the classics have a better turn and pop feel.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 26, 2024, 04:59:03 PM
What brands/shapes are Limosine comparable with - never skated one and I've been wanting to try a Max Palmer board for a while now.....I'm skating a Krooked board at the moment and love that shape.

What size and shape are you currently on? 

*** ADDED - if it was the Mermaid board, that is a small 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb ***


Or at least general dimensions, as this can change a whole lot between different boards, eg Krooked 8.62 is 32.5+ long with 14.75 wheelbase, compared to a Krooked Una Tru Fit which is very short, 8.38 x 31.something with 14.0 wb.  Other more normal shapes, from 8, 8.125, 8.25, 8.38, 8.5 (three different sizes) are fairly normal overall for any DLX brand - Krooked, Real or Antihero, plus There or Unity decks, but there are still differences that make even Krooked fans go with one, but not another.


The Limosine decks are similar to, but maybe not quite the same as the Generator / standard BBS boards, so from the few I have seen in person, as well as all the others people have posted or I have seen in shop listings, they are very middle of the road, maybe a little shorter and more rounded than blunt or full shaped kicks but not at all pointy either, which in general terms is great if you want a board that is within those dimensions, eg 8.38 x 32 with 14.38 wb, or 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb.

Not trying to be funny or weird, but there are just so many options, so basic info like what width board really helps a whole lot, in helping to answer with more relevant info.



Edit - went looking for dimensions anyway:


This Max Palmer "Melt" deck with info is shorter than average:


8.6" x 32.35" x 14.45" WB
Max Palmer pro model
BBS premium wood


Other sizes below as listed on the Limosine site:

https://limosineskateboards.com/


Thank you @apbarbs for helping me get the correct measurements, for all these boards.


Available in:

8.25" x 31.82"
14.13" Wheelbase

8.38" x 31.89"
14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.25"
14.40" Wheelbase

8.6" x 32.35"
14.45 Wheelbase

9.0" x 33.25"
14.8" Wheelbase


Limosine 8.38 board top pic for shape reference, closest to the Krooked mermaid board shape:


(https://boardworld2.imgix.net/uploads/content/product/limosine-loreth-spit-skateboard-deck-2.1703038996.jpg)


Hope that helps.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: French manicure on March 26, 2024, 06:36:18 PM
Woah! Thank you so much for the detailed write-up. This will def help.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on March 27, 2024, 05:14:30 AM
is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on March 27, 2024, 05:29:37 AM
is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
I know of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRjg2HtYtU&ab_channel=Trackertrucks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on March 27, 2024, 06:12:57 AM
As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 27, 2024, 08:19:20 AM
As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
Get X99
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Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on March 27, 2024, 08:32:43 AM
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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
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Get X99

I appreciate that but I tried the x99 and I personally like my 99a f4s more. I just wanna know if wearing a compression sleeve on the knees consistently will be worse in the long run
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Post by: lamfordie on March 27, 2024, 08:54:39 AM
I know that Baker has the b2 shape but does deathwish have anything in that shape?
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Post by: Frank and Fred on March 27, 2024, 09:04:27 AM
As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?

it can't hurt so give a try. I dislocated my elbow last year and wore an old bones elbow sleeve while healing. i asked my PT if it would help. he said, jury is out, but if it feels good, no harm...  it helped me feel a bit more secure and aware of my injury which was a good thing.
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Post by: BALARGUE on March 27, 2024, 09:27:26 AM
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is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
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I know of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRjg2HtYtU&ab_channel=Trackertrucks

Thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on March 27, 2024, 01:47:11 PM
How long does Primitive take for shipping? I ordered Thursday night and still haven’t received a shipping confirmation. I emailed them and today they said they have a large amount of orders to get through.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2024, 04:03:57 PM
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is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
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I know of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRjg2HtYtU&ab_channel=Trackertrucks
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Thanks


That was a good one - hadn't actually seen it.

There were others out there I recall seeing that I can't find now, but these two are very interesting for different reasons, the old Fausto video for Independent trucks and this 2Hex video (always seems like old mate is struggling to talk) but for the newer process, it is worth watching too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvqKMEtnLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ui8ha7BUVM


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Post by: rocklobster on March 27, 2024, 06:39:20 PM
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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
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it can't hurt so give a try. I dislocated my elbow last year and wore an old bones elbow sleeve while healing. i asked my PT if it would help. he said, jury is out, but if it feels good, no harm...  it helped me feel a bit more secure and aware of my injury which was a good thing.

Same, I pulled something in my left knee years ago and have worn knee sleeves on both knees ever since. A little compression doesn't help much but it provides some padding if I land poorly and some peace of mind. I go out for runs without them so I can do with or without.

Always good to supplement the brace / guards with PT to strengthen regardless of injury status.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 27, 2024, 10:32:04 PM
The argument of using support actually hinders strength is kinda garbage…..I find a sleeve, or high tops or a shoe with support just makes you more secure….any exercise you prolly aren’t wearing it, so you’re getting your strength there….

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Post by: tuesday on March 28, 2024, 01:34:51 AM
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is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
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I know of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRjg2HtYtU&ab_channel=Trackertrucks
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Thanks
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That was a good one - hadn't actually seen it.

There were others out there I recall seeing that I can't find now, but these two are very interesting for different reasons, the old Fausto video for Independent trucks and this 2Hex video (always seems like old mate is struggling to talk) but for the newer process, it is worth watching too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvqKMEtnLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ui8ha7BUVM




Has anyone ever seen a 2Hex truck available anywhere?
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Post by: moonordie on March 28, 2024, 02:13:36 AM
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is there a video / documentary floating around with how trucks are manufactured ?
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I know of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRjg2HtYtU&ab_channel=Trackertrucks
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Thanks
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That was a good one - hadn't actually seen it.

There were others out there I recall seeing that I can't find now, but these two are very interesting for different reasons, the old Fausto video for Independent trucks and this 2Hex video (always seems like old mate is struggling to talk) but for the newer process, it is worth watching too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvqKMEtnLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ui8ha7BUVM



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Has anyone ever seen a 2Hex truck available anywhere?
https://worldshop.2hex.com/shop?category=1&start=1.00&end=2308.00
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: tuesday on March 28, 2024, 06:31:34 AM
thanks
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on March 28, 2024, 07:59:34 AM
The argument of using support actually hinders strength is kinda garbage…..I find a sleeve, or high tops or a shoe with support just makes you more secure….any exercise you prolly aren’t wearing it, so you’re getting your strength there….

Yeah lol I had gotten a new job and didn’t really understand what an hsa is but was able to use it to grab the knee sleeves so I’m gonna try em.

I use a balance board, stationary bike (at least ten usually 20 miles a day) and tons of exercise band workouts daily (for ankles, knees and wrists) basically just to keep in shape to be able to skate as long as possible so hopefully that provides the strength.

It’s funny how before I started skating again I didn’t really exercise at all now I have whole training programs just to be able to skate a ledge 3-4 times a week. Wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on March 29, 2024, 05:13:48 AM
How much "play" or slop is normal in bearings?

I have a set of Bronson G3s that I don't love. They have been very gently used and their performance has been mediocre. I have a set of swiss bones and a set of reds that I like better.

I tried cleaning with alcohol, drying and lubing with speed cream but at least 3 still have noticable rumble feel and when spun in hand and when installed they free spin half the time of the reds and a third of the Swiss.

I also noticed that when I hold the inner race I can wobble the outer race. Like, if I put the bearing on an axle that's pointed up I can wobble the outer race like teeter totter. I don't believe the wobble is from the inner race fit with the axle.

How much wobble is normal?

So far the only thing I like about them is that the non-rumbly ones are quiet but I'll take noise over lack of spin.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 29, 2024, 09:41:00 AM
If a shoe has an ollie hole in it, but has another fabric layer under, still feels fine and tread is good, but looks kinda like shit. Do you still skate it or are you retiring it? (Tiagos)

I'm thinking on this rn. But it's fix or run. The 808 is compliments. I'm full addicted to the joy. Cuz when you walk in the room stranger. I'm pecker checking your kicks. It's almost always the first thing I do.
Hearing people say GD! Those look sick! I'm like all warm an fuzzy about it.

I am bummed I gotta make this choice. My second set is still brand new ish.


Fuckin fuc I forget my question. I'll be back
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 29, 2024, 04:09:54 PM
How much "play" or slop is normal in bearings?

I have a set of Bronson G3s that I don't love. They have been very gently used and their performance has been mediocre. I have a set of swiss bones and a set of reds that I like better.

I tried cleaning with alcohol, drying and lubing with speed cream but at least 3 still have noticable rumble feel and when spun in hand and when installed they free spin half the time of the reds and a third of the Swiss.

I also noticed that when I hold the inner race I can wobble the outer race. Like, if I put the bearing on an axle that's pointed up I can wobble the outer race like teeter totter. I don't believe the wobble is from the inner race fit with the axle.

How much wobble is normal?

So far the only thing I like about them is that the non-rumbly ones are quiet but I'll take noise over lack of spin.



Good quality bearings when brand new should have almost zero side to side movement within the bearing itself, but as bearings wear, especially if they are run dry or without shields, but also if they are just put under excessive loads, eg jumping down stuff, they will often lose that tightness and become blown out, which then leads to other issues and things just not working as they should.  They can be slower, seize up entirely or become very noisy so depending on the user, some people would just call it a day, others would put them on the "rain board" or something similar, so as to not really worry about them much.

Also once they lose that tightness, there is no getting them back to new feeling again either, with the parts, often but not always the bearing cage becoming ovalled out or the balls or races becoming pitted, but putting in a different bearing cage can sometimes bring them back to near new feeling.  I had experimented with a few Bones Swiss that had the bearing cage break, putting in Bones Reds cages instead and they held up well enough to give those bearings a new life, although still not feeling quite like they had before, but that is one way to make expensive bearings last a bit longer.


I haven't had that much experience with Bronson bearings, besides getting a set of well used and almost dead Raw bearings from someone, which I brought back to half working, but still not the same as any usual bearings.  Guessing that any of them when new have been good enough, but often any bearings, regardless of brand, if well used / abused, can be cleaned up a bit but still never come back to where people might want them to be.

At least the "Spare board that almost never gets used" or the old crapper or whatever is a good place to put them, or if kids just have nothing at all, they are the best go to in that regard.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Luismps on March 29, 2024, 04:46:57 PM
As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?

I suffered from jumpers knees for approximately 3 years. I'm sure you're being treated but I managed to "cure" myself over a year ago.
Regarding compression bandages, there are several on the market, just do a Google search.
I used a 4cm wide tape firmly tightened in the middle area of ​​the knee while doing sports, which allowed me at least 2 hours of intensive pain-free use.
It can be a long process but it is possible to be pain free in the medium term.

Good luck on your recovery!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DinnerDog425 on March 30, 2024, 08:51:24 AM
Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on March 30, 2024, 09:24:49 AM
Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.

Yes, I immediately replaced them but I just assumed I didn't like them more b/c they were new not b/c of the color. I always keep any old stock white ones I have and replace new ones with them. In saying that stock and new clear blue were about as good as the white.

All new bushings are problematic. A good bushing will never feel right straight away and will feel very different once you've got it broken in.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 30, 2024, 12:13:28 PM
What's the difference between blazers mid abd blazers mid iso?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2024, 04:43:36 PM
Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.


All stock bushings are said to be 90 duro, no matter the colour, clear or whatever else.  A guy I know has the black stock bushings that came on his raw team editions and they might feel ever so slightly stiffer than say the other stock clear colours or the white ones, but I also have some other stock bushings that feel way stiffer than those, for whatever reason, be it just age or who knows what.

At least if you don't like them, Thunder aftermarket bushings come in the stock 90 in both clear orange or white right now, or the rebuild kit in clear red 90, so you have options to replace them easily enough.





Yes, I immediately replaced them but I just assumed I didn't like them more b/c they were new not b/c of the color. I always keep any old stock white ones I have and replace new ones with them. In saying that stock and new clear blue were about as good as the white.

All new bushings are problematic. A good bushing will never feel right straight away and will feel very different once you've got it broken in.



Ha yeah - brand new bushings = find somewhere to just do laps or roll around and wear them in before even thinking of skating as usual, otherwise they often blow out or they just feel like they don't work well.

Had a few people set up new Thunder trucks recently, one didn't break them in as he should have - destroyed the bushings.  Another guy with the same trucks went really easy, as I had said to do - loves his new trucks now and the bushings feel perfect for him, as well as when we skated his board.

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2024, 04:46:56 PM
What's the difference between blazers mid abd blazers mid iso?


I don't deal in Nike shoes at all, but I was curious, so checked and this is what came up.  Maybe they are the same exact shoes in a physical sense, maybe not, but it might just be a name, in the same way that at some point all the Nike shoes we had in a large store I worked in had SB after them, even though they were not at all the Skateboarding editions of the shoes.


What does Nike ISO stand for?

In-Store Only

An acronym for In-Store Only, the Nike Dunk ISO is exactly what it says in the tin. Pairs like the recent Nike SB Dunk High ISO ”Midnight Navy” were released exclusively in specific skate shops worldwide, making them a lot rarer than the usual pair.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DinnerDog425 on March 30, 2024, 04:57:45 PM
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Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.
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All stock bushings are said to be 90 duro, no matter the colour, clear or whatever else.  A guy I know has the black stock bushings that came on his raw team editions and they might feel ever so slightly stiffer than say the other stock clear colours or the white ones, but I also have some other stock bushings that feel way stiffer than those, for whatever reason, be it just age or who knows what.

At least if you don't like them, Thunder aftermarket bushings come in the stock 90 in both clear orange or white right now, or the rebuild kit in clear red 90, so you have options to replace them easily enough.




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Yes, I immediately replaced them but I just assumed I didn't like them more b/c they were new not b/c of the color. I always keep any old stock white ones I have and replace new ones with them. In saying that stock and new clear blue were about as good as the white.

All new bushings are problematic. A good bushing will never feel right straight away and will feel very different once you've got it broken in.
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Ha yeah - brand new bushings = find somewhere to just do laps or roll around and wear them in before even thinking of skating as usual, otherwise they often blow out or they just feel like they don't work well.

Had a few people set up new Thunder trucks recently, one didn't break them in as he should have - destroyed the bushings.  Another guy with the same trucks went really easy, as I had said to do - loves his new trucks now and the bushings feel perfect for him, as well as when we skated his board.

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.
I had two sessions on them and the only way to get them anywhere near where I like to have them would have had none of the nylock in the threads. I threw them in boiling water and they are better now.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: biaherl on March 30, 2024, 10:10:12 PM
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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
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Get X99
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I appreciate that but I tried the x99 and I personally like my 99a f4s more. I just wanna know if wearing a compression sleeve on the knees consistently will be worse in the long run

As someone who is almost 50 years old and had my first knee surgery at 14, I can say that the old bones sleeves do nothing but maybe keep your knees warmer. Honestly the best knee support I've had is from 7mm+ knee wraps that power lifters use. They can hinder your skateboarding depending on what tricks you are trying. If you're cruising, slashing and riding transition then they are perfect. They won't make you weaker if that's what you've heard

The best thing that has worked for me, someone who has had multiple surgeries on his left knee but my right knee is my worst, is regressing to progress

work easy then press on

Drink the cool aid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N2CFiUjvxY&t


30 years of knee pain gone in one year of body weight exercises


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on March 31, 2024, 12:04:55 AM
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I don't deal in Nike shoes at all, but I was curious, so checked and this is what came up.  Maybe they are the same exact shoes in a physical sense, maybe not, but it might just be a name, in the same way that at some point all the Nike shoes we had in a large store I worked in had SB after them, even though they were not at all the Skateboarding editions of the shoes.


What does Nike ISO stand for?

In-Store Only

An acronym for In-Store Only, the Nike Dunk ISO is exactly what it says in the tin. Pairs like the recent Nike SB Dunk High ISO ”Midnight Navy” were released exclusively in specific skate shops worldwide, making them a lot rarer than the usual pair.
You da MVP man.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on March 31, 2024, 05:51:00 AM

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.

The last time I got new trucks I remembered "Aw man, I gotta break these in." And I wished I had a machine to to it for me.

I still can't think of anything cheap or easier than just cruising though.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 31, 2024, 03:05:11 PM

I had two sessions on them and the only way to get them anywhere near where I like to have them would have had none of the nylock in the threads. I threw them in boiling water and they are better now.


Some people even skate them without the bottom washer for a bit first, just to try to wear them in.

I don't know how good that would be - changing the feel of the truck geometry and possibly blowing out the bottom bushing, but I guess for those people, they say it is just right until they compress or soften up and then they put the bottom washer back in and are good for the life of the truck.

Guessing they don't do a whole lot of heavy / side to side landings on those in that time, but I can see that as an alternative to cutting the bushings or swapping them out.

Some others might put a thin flat washer on top at first too, like the Bones washers.  That really makes they feel a whole lot more loose and turny, with no resistance, but it was a bit too much when I tried it, just to see how it was.



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Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.
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The last time I got new trucks I remembered "Aw man, I gotta break these in." And I wished I had a machine to to it for me.

I still can't think of anything cheap or easier than just cruising though.


For sure - just put in the time at the start and they work really well, for the most part.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 31, 2024, 04:23:39 PM
Why can't I get to where my board is landing?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on April 02, 2024, 03:48:29 PM
I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53628485263_e51d3a3881_c.jpg)

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Post by: VCR on April 02, 2024, 03:53:04 PM
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Post by: LeDave on April 02, 2024, 03:55:04 PM
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Thank you! I will keep both as is then.
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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?
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Get X99
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I appreciate that but I tried the x99 and I personally like my 99a f4s more. I just wanna know if wearing a compression sleeve on the knees consistently will be worse in the long run
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As someone who is almost 50 years old and had my first knee surgery at 14, I can say that the old bones sleeves do nothing but maybe keep your knees warmer. Honestly the best knee support I've had is from 7mm+ knee wraps that power lifters use. They can hinder your skateboarding depending on what tricks you are trying. If you're cruising, slashing and riding transition then they are perfect. They won't make you weaker if that's what you've heard

The best thing that has worked for me, someone who has had multiple surgeries on his left knee but my right knee is my worst, is regressing to progress

work easy then press on

Drink the cool aid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N2CFiUjvxY&t


30 years of knee pain gone in one year of body weight exercises




Gua Sha muscle scraper/tool can also help - lots of knee issue come from surrounding muscles being over or under worked/utilized.

Walking backwards on the treadmill (without it moving on it's own) or sled pulls will help strengthen your knees.

I've got knee pain, nothing torn but over use: Old knees (launch ramps, drops, stairs/40+ yrs skating) + lift heavy, bike, hike...knee compression sleeves never helped, you can get some flossing bands, but they suck to skate in and didn't really help either.

Foam rolling the teardrop of your quad helps a ton (for me anyway). But the real magic? These fucking things:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RWMPF1Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I've used similar on my elbows (inner elbow tendonitis/lifting injuries) and they didn't work/help at all so I was reluctant to try them for knees....

But those knee braces, it's voodoo, I swear but I can squat, skate, hike, etc., without pain and/or feeling like my knee was going to give out. When it first became a real issue, even getting out of bed some days it was impossible to put weight on them until I thera gun'd/scraped the tear drop -  but if I strap these on first thing, boom right as rain. The best thing is it's getting better and I'm able to use them less.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on April 02, 2024, 05:20:50 PM
I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53628485263_e51d3a3881_c.jpg)

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this is normal.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on April 02, 2024, 05:24:10 PM
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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

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this is normal.

Thanks, will keep both.
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Post by: jakeumms on April 02, 2024, 05:48:14 PM
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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

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this is normal.
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Thanks, will keep both.
Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull
(https://i.imgur.com/WtEEQqF.jpg)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on April 02, 2024, 05:51:57 PM
Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on April 02, 2024, 06:44:29 PM
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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

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this is normal.
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Thanks, will keep both.
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Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull
(https://i.imgur.com/WtEEQqF.jpg)

Depending what earrings Terry Nails was wearing when they poured the baseplates that day at Ermico.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 02, 2024, 06:54:37 PM
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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

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this is normal.
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Thanks, will keep both.
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Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull
(https://i.imgur.com/WtEEQqF.jpg)

I miss these. I miss tfours
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on April 02, 2024, 09:31:42 PM
Who the fuck designed the baseplates on Fury trucks? I was pulling the hardware off an old Hardy board to hang and it had some rusty Furys on it... Those nut holes/(counter sinks?) were the worst idea I've seen in hot minute
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 02, 2024, 10:55:04 PM
I had the first incarnations of furys and the pivot was almost like a ball and socket….designed by Shrewgy I think… not sure about the rest of the truck….
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lulz on April 02, 2024, 11:50:07 PM
Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?

The oil lubed ones from harbor freight have always worked the best for me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Idk on April 03, 2024, 08:04:54 AM
My primitive order still hasn’t shipped. Ordered it March 22. Gonna try to get it canceled but hopefully their customer service actually responds to me this time.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on April 03, 2024, 08:18:41 AM
Still nursing a sprained ankle and I wonder if skating high tops would help with recovery (once ankle is feeling good enough to pop tricks ofc)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: jakeumms on April 03, 2024, 09:40:53 AM
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Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?
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The oil lubed ones from harbor freight have always worked the best for me.
Thanks for the rec! Didn't even know there's a Harbor Freight in my area
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Pastasash on April 03, 2024, 09:52:11 AM
Still nursing a sprained ankle and I wonder if skating high tops would help with recovery (once ankle is feeling good enough to pop tricks ofc)

Sorta, it's more of a placebo effect more than anything. When I was coming back from my last ankle injury I was skating dunk highs and it definitely gave me more confidence and my ankle felt more secure and supported, but it didn't stop me from getting a hot pocket after nursing my ankle for a month and a half.

Strength training is the only thing that really is going to help with recovery, load the ankle with some weights not just body weight and bands. You'll be feeling much better for return to skate even if its in low or high tops
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 03, 2024, 10:53:06 AM
Who the fuck designed the baseplates on Fury trucks? I was pulling the hardware off an old Hardy board to hang and it had some rusty Furys on it... Those nut holes/(counter sinks?) were the worst idea I've seen in hot minute

I actually liked that because I only had to carry around this tiny phillips screwdriver to tighten the nuts lol... I feel like that made them come loose a lot or maybe it was just cause I was skating so mucch? I think it added a lot of un-necessary weight to the truck though and thats why they removed it on the EVOs or whatever. by that point i had moved on to Indy. I only rode fury's from probably 2002-2005~ they were my favorite truck at the time. The turning was a lot better than all the other trucks that were out by a long shot (besides indy). and they had good pros. seemed like one of the better offerings at the time to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on April 03, 2024, 11:46:54 AM
What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lulz on April 04, 2024, 09:35:30 PM
What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

Yes to acetone and speed cream. Well, not the shields, just soapy water on those. Don’t want the acetone to break down the rubber seals.

Can’t speak to Bronsons. Avoided them due to bad reviews on here.

If you want better than reds, go with Bones Swiss super six.
If you need cheaper than reds, I like spitfire bearings, lol.)
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DERBY on April 04, 2024, 10:14:02 PM
What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

what youre doing is good. probably best to make sure everything is dried entirely. the person above said to avoid the shields. theyre right but tbh i personally do it.

based on experience g3s are worse then the g2s and standard reds. bones is your safest bet and most of their bearings are quality. only set from bones that werent good are the big balls. theyre fast and the shields look nice but cracked the crowns on every set
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on April 04, 2024, 11:56:27 PM
What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

Acetone works, but is hella toxic and can be corrosive on plastic. I prefer to use isopropyl alcohol instead. Less harmful on your lungs and the environment, too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on April 05, 2024, 03:02:54 AM
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What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!
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Acetone works, but is hella toxic and can be corrosive on plastic. I prefer to use isopropyl alcohol instead. Less harmful on your lungs and the environment, too.
This is the right answer. Even a citrus based dishwasher detergent on warm water works, not ideal but decent enough.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Basingstoke on April 05, 2024, 11:04:27 AM
I had the first incarnations of furys and the pivot was almost like a ball and socket….designed by Shrewgy I think… not sure about the rest of the truck….

Thought it was Lance as he was the team manager, basing it off of one of the manufacturers from the 70's. When I was back in the UK Decathlon was selling them online and in store.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Síota on April 06, 2024, 08:01:08 AM
What was that site that listed songs used in skate videos/parts?
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Post by: breezy_again on April 06, 2024, 08:16:05 AM
What was that site that listed songs used in skate videos/parts?
skatevideosite
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on April 07, 2024, 01:37:51 AM
Thinking of getting Ishod 2 and GT blazers mid.
Ishods are a guilty pleasure because I know they're kinda ugly and I don't like red shoes but those for some reason are calling me badly.
GT blazers mid, the black ones, at first I thought they were ugly af but suddenly I started to like them. Even that ugly 98 is getting into me now, it was the year I started skating so is a nice thing.
Obvsly both pairs are on sale on the Czech Nike site.
Should I put the trigger?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on April 07, 2024, 01:42:33 AM
No
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Post by: Síota on April 07, 2024, 04:32:17 AM
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skatevideosite
Thank you!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: SupremePizza on April 08, 2024, 08:57:00 AM
Thinking of getting Ishod 2 and GT blazers mid.
Ishods are a guilty pleasure because I know they're kinda ugly and I don't like red shoes but those for some reason are calling me badly.
GT blazers mid, the black ones, at first I thought they were ugly af but suddenly I started to like them. Even that ugly 98 is getting into me now, it was the year I started skating so is a nice thing.
Obvsly both pairs are on sale on the Czech Nike site.
Should I put the trigger?

Might as well. Ishods don't last but they sure do skate very nicely. It sounds ridiculous but my best tres lately have been with suede Ishods
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: PuffinMuffin on April 08, 2024, 11:33:03 PM
Every single one of my wheels seems to be firmly wedged in place on my bent truck axles. The wheels are coned all crazy, and ~45mm, so I'd like to replace them. The bearings are the Bones Race style with the extended inner races acting as built-in spacers, which may have made their removal more difficult on bent axles. I was using the Bones Race bearings because my axles are slipped badly. Hammering the wheels off didn't work. They won't budge. It looks like some galvanic corrosion formed, potentially welding the axle to the bearing.

They won't freaking budge. I want to skate today without heading to the local shop to pick up new bearings. Has anyone experienced and fixed this issue before?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Flipsidegrollie on April 09, 2024, 12:43:06 AM
If you have a flat head screwdriver, try wedging it between the end of the hanger and the inside of the wheel. Use it like a lever to pry the wheel off, working your way all the way around it. Also giving it a spray with some PB blaster or some other penetrant would help if it's seized from corrosion but it might Perma mess up your bearings. Good luck!
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 09, 2024, 08:01:46 AM
Not sure where else to put this lol but went to the Tampa Pro contest this weekend and met Cordano Russell and he showed me his custom Toy Machine PS Stix board
it has a freaking 16 inch wheel base
It actaully had quite a bit of concave for a PS board - i noticed most of them are on the flatter side but I know not all of them are.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: switchfrontshuv on April 09, 2024, 08:08:34 AM
Not sure where else to put this lol but went to the Tampa Pro contest this weekend and met Cordano Russell and he showed me his custom Toy Machine PS Stix board
it has a freaking 16 inch wheel base
It actaully had quite a bit of concave for a PS board - i noticed most of them are on the flatter side but I know not all of them are.

makes sense, dudes built like a football player
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 09, 2024, 08:38:17 AM
oh another thing he mentioned 2 of the plies are made from Hemp. That is first I had heard about that.  I can't seem to find any more information on this board online but I know I saw awhile ago it was an 8 ply and people were kinda clowning that it was "just an extra ply".  Interesting choice of using hemp. i am gonna go out on a whim here and I wouldn't be surprised the compound that they use for the DSM VX / Resin 7 boards has too many chemicals in it and probably against regulations / under heavy taxes if manufactured in North America - similar to how Vulcanized shoes are always produced in countries with basically zero emissions laws like Cambodia and Vietnam.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on April 09, 2024, 08:40:41 AM
oh another thing he mentioned 2 of the plies are made from Hemp. That is first I had heard about that.  I can't seem to find any more information on this board online but I know I saw awhile ago it was an 8 ply and people were kinda clowning that it was "just an extra ply".  Interesting choice of using hemp. i am gonna go out on a whim here and I wouldn't be surprised the compound that they use for the DSM VX / Resin 7 boards has too many chemicals in it and probably against regulations / under heavy taxes if manufactured in North America - similar to how Vulcanized shoes are always produced in countries with basically zero emissions laws like Cambodia and Vietnam.
You made me remember about those 9 ply Shuvit boards, good memories. Crazy a 16" WB
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Post by: Mean salto on April 09, 2024, 08:56:08 AM
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oh another thing he mentioned 2 of the plies are made from Hemp. That is first I had heard about that.  I can't seem to find any more information on this board online but I know I saw awhile ago it was an 8 ply and people were kinda clowning that it was "just an extra ply".  Interesting choice of using hemp. i am gonna go out on a whim here and I wouldn't be surprised the compound that they use for the DSM VX / Resin 7 boards has too many chemicals in it and probably against regulations / under heavy taxes if manufactured in North America - similar to how Vulcanized shoes are always produced in countries with basically zero emissions laws like Cambodia and Vietnam.
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You made me remember about those 9 plus Shuvit boards, good memories. Crazy a 16" WB
I think josh Kasper had an extra ply blind board too. I'm the same size as cordano and used to always ride Stu Graham boards because they were the biggest but were so heavy I got over it. Wonder how heavy his setup is with that size board plus extra plys. He's gotta be destroying baseplates too
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rocklobster on April 09, 2024, 10:16:15 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641317282

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-CcAAOSwDgBiVe0W/s-l1600.jpg)
Habitat did hemp ply decks in the early 2010s
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Dad Board on April 09, 2024, 10:59:49 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641317282

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-CcAAOSwDgBiVe0W/s-l1600.jpg)
Habitat did hemp ply decks in the early 2010s

Thought that said “to son” and imagined Freddy signing boards for random kids at a demo and making sure they knew he was that dude
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on April 09, 2024, 12:05:00 PM
@rawbertson
was the deck 34” long?
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Post by: roba on April 10, 2024, 09:12:47 AM
what trucks is daewon skatin now that tensor is done?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2024, 06:32:18 PM
what trucks is daewon skatin now that tensor is done?


I would have a guess and say he would still have a lifetime supply of those trucks so I guess of any product, trucks last the longest and need to be changed out the least, especially compared to decks, wheels, etc.

The funny thing is with some pro guys they can skate the same trucks for years - way longer than a lot of other people would skate anything, even though they change out decks very regularly, or wheels fairly regularly.


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Post by: Bold on April 10, 2024, 07:34:27 PM
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I would have a guess and say he would still have a lifetime supply of those trucks so I guess of any product, trucks last the longest and need to be changed out the least, especially compared to decks, wheels, etc.

The funny thing is with some pro guys they can skate the same trucks for years - way longer than a lot of other people would skate anything, even though they change out decks very regularly, or wheels fairly regularly.

He probably has plenty but I also bet he wears out front trucks faster than folks who actually use top bushings. Those washers against the hanger have got to make for a helluva lot of wear.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: BALARGUE on April 11, 2024, 05:31:25 AM
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I would have a guess and say he would still have a lifetime supply of those trucks so I guess of any product, trucks last the longest and need to be changed out the least, especially compared to decks, wheels, etc.

The funny thing is with some pro guys they can skate the same trucks for years - way longer than a lot of other people would skate anything, even though they change out decks very regularly, or wheels fairly regularly.
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He probably has plenty but I also bet he wears out front trucks faster than folks who actually use top bushings. Those washers against the hanger have got to make for a helluva lot of wear.

this is probably the only time Mbrinson needs to be corrected  ;D

A local mate has that Daewon setting and the hanger kingpin hole is being tortured, getting oval really quick.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 11, 2024, 03:41:03 PM
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I would have a guess and say he would still have a lifetime supply of those trucks so I guess of any product, trucks last the longest and need to be changed out the least, especially compared to decks, wheels, etc.

The funny thing is with some pro guys they can skate the same trucks for years - way longer than a lot of other people would skate anything, even though they change out decks very regularly, or wheels fairly regularly.
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He probably has plenty but I also bet he wears out front trucks faster than folks who actually use top bushings. Those washers against the hanger have got to make for a helluva lot of wear.
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this is probably the only time Mbrinson needs to be corrected  ;D

A local mate has that Daewon setting and the hanger kingpin hole is being tortured, getting oval really quick.


Ha yeah, definitely bring me to account and I gladly accept any corrections - does he still skate with no top bushing at all, or has he got a cut down job in there just to run it how he needs it?

A unique one, any which way.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 11, 2024, 06:54:56 PM
@Mbrimson88 quick one for you, how much flat is on your garage mini?
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2024, 02:48:55 AM
@Mbrimson88 quick one for you, how much flat is on your garage mini?


It has about 1600 to 1800 mm of flat, which equates to between 5 and 6 ft of flat for a 2 ft to 3 ft ramp.

The whole thing fits in a 6 m x 6 m double garage space including 1200 main platforms on the smaller middle bits.


That sort of adds up to about 900 mm of transition from coping to flat, across the overall plan, not going with the transition.

Wall - 1200 platform, 900 transition, 1800 flat, 900 transition, 1200 platform - wall.


This one shows the flat fairly well.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BbbiOi0FJ6w/


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 12, 2024, 06:53:29 PM
Thanks @Mbrimson88. That helps a lot since I’ve never done a mini under 4’ before. This one’s going to be 2.5’ so I figured 8’ of flat would be a bit excessive and I’d seen you did a few little guys.
Appreciate the response.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on April 14, 2024, 01:56:45 PM
When to install new pivot cups? My roommate has worn pivot cups that pop out of his trucks. I told him he should get new ones but he said it’s fine. I’m just curious, when do you know to install new ones?
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Post by: Idk on April 14, 2024, 02:09:52 PM
When to install new pivot cups? My roommate has worn pivot cups that pop out of his trucks. I told him he should get new ones but he said it’s fine. I’m just curious, when do you know to install new ones?
If you’re thinking you should change your pivot cups, then it’s time. Usually the trucks act too squirrelly.
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Post by: LeDave on April 14, 2024, 02:28:27 PM
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If you’re thinking you should change your pivot cups, then it’s time. Usually the trucks act too squirrelly.

Thanks, do you happen to know if these are D1 or D2 from Destructos? My roommate is not sure which one his is and the Destructos website show D1 and D2 pivot cups for sale.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53654529480_c58ef6684a_b.jpg)
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 14, 2024, 03:21:30 PM
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When to install new pivot cups? My roommate has worn pivot cups that pop out of his trucks. I told him he should get new ones but he said it’s fine. I’m just curious, when do you know to install new ones?
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If you’re thinking you should change your pivot cups, then it’s time. Usually the trucks act too squirrelly.
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Thanks, do you happen to know if these are D1 or D2 from Destructos? My roommate is not sure which one his is and the Destructos website show D1 and D2 pivot cups for sale.




People in the "Other trucks" thread might have some answers, but quite simply, from what I have read there, if the bottom bushing is cylinder, they are D1, but if the bottom bushiing is conical they are D2.

More info here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108560.msg3222173#msg3222173



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When to install new pivot cups? My roommate has worn pivot cups that pop out of his trucks. I told him he should get new ones but he said it’s fine. I’m just curious, when do you know to install new ones?
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If you’re thinking you should change your pivot cups, then it’s time. Usually the trucks act too squirrelly.
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Thanks, do you happen to know if these are D1 or D2 from Destructos? My roommate is not sure which one his is and the Destructos website show D1 and D2 pivot cups for sale.

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People in the "Other trucks" thread might have some answers, but quite simply, from what I have read there, if the bottom bushing is cylinder, they are D1, but if the bottom bushiing is conical they are D2.

More info here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108560.msg3222173#msg3222173





Or remove the trucks and check the sticker on the baseplate.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2024, 04:45:57 AM

Or remove the trucks and check the sticker on the baseplate.



Ha yeah, I was going to say something like that, but then I didn't find any pics of the underside of them and I haven't actually seen a set of Destructo trucks since all the sets I had back in the 2000s, so I had nothing to actually go on in that regard.

Are the pivot points and associated cups different in the two versions?  Like Ace Classic to AF1 trucks, although some people I know have put generic pivot cups in both and said they still work fine.

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Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 15, 2024, 07:57:05 AM
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If you’re thinking you should change your pivot cups, then it’s time. Usually the trucks act too squirrelly.
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Thanks, do you happen to know if these are D1 or D2 from Destructos? My roommate is not sure which one his is and the Destructos website show D1 and D2 pivot cups for sale.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53654529480_c58ef6684a_b.jpg)

Huge kingpin clearance - D1
Not a lot of kingpin clearance - D2
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on April 15, 2024, 08:21:00 AM
You must give people trigger warning beforehand if you wanna post photo of Destructos with hardware poking out
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Post by: Ok on April 15, 2024, 09:56:19 AM
You must give people trigger warning beforehand if you wanna post photo of Destructos with hardware poking out

the whole kit….have you ever been in a parked vehicle, in a row, with a line of vehicles parked on either side, and then one of the lanes of vehicles started to move forward, and you are snapped from your reverie, and start panicking whilst pressing down the brake, certain that you are rolling backwards?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rikki on April 15, 2024, 11:19:47 PM
Wonder if Arto had 1" hardware in his Destructos?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: moonordie on April 16, 2024, 02:07:39 AM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: munchbox on April 16, 2024, 04:17:46 AM
everything feels crispier on thunders vs ace
especially the forged baseplate models
but ventures do everything better imo
when you get them dialed its all over
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Bold on April 16, 2024, 04:55:28 AM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
Went the other way. I'll admit I hate thunders. They don't turn.

In the interest of objectivity...
Thunders turn is more gradual as you lean and the turn radius is larger.
Ace turns more overall (tighter circles) but they also turn more as you lean.

At least that's how it feels to me.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: JugeL on April 16, 2024, 10:02:10 AM
Couple of my friends switched to Thunders from Ace. Weight of the truck was the main issue. Both rode their trucks on tighter side so turning wasn't really a concern.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: ejazzle on April 16, 2024, 10:11:41 AM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
More stability, more consistent with everything. I dont think there's any other option than thunders for me going forward. I still use ace's on my beater cruiser board.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: LeDave on April 16, 2024, 10:23:40 AM
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Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
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More stability, more consistent with everything. I dont think there's any other option than thunders for me going forward. I still use ace's on my beater cruiser board.

I have Thunder Sonora and they are much better at everything than my Independent Stage 11. I've never tried Ace before although I was going to get the AF1 instead of the Thunder. I'm glad I got the Thunder, the turning and response of it is so much better than Independent.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 16, 2024, 10:36:30 AM
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oh another thing he mentioned 2 of the plies are made from Hemp. That is first I had heard about that.  I can't seem to find any more information on this board online but I know I saw awhile ago it was an 8 ply and people were kinda clowning that it was "just an extra ply".  Interesting choice of using hemp. i am gonna go out on a whim here and I wouldn't be surprised the compound that they use for the DSM VX / Resin 7 boards has too many chemicals in it and probably against regulations / under heavy taxes if manufactured in North America - similar to how Vulcanized shoes are always produced in countries with basically zero emissions laws like Cambodia and Vietnam.
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You made me remember about those 9 plus Shuvit boards, good memories. Crazy a 16" WB
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I think josh Kasper had an extra ply blind board too. I'm the same size as cordano and used to always ride Stu Graham boards because they were the biggest but were so heavy I got over it. Wonder how heavy his setup is with that size board plus extra plys. He's gotta be destroying baseplates too

I skated extra ply boards. They was sick. I'm pretty sure I had a 5 ply once too. Not so sick
I'm very interested in hemp bloards tho. Anything to lessen the waste that actually works is good.

I want bones to ditch their bushing manufacturing yesterday. That little piece of unnecessary plastic get my goat making me far less than stoked
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 16, 2024, 10:51:29 AM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641317282

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-CcAAOSwDgBiVe0W/s-l1600.jpg)
Habitat did hemp ply decks in the early 2010s
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Thought that said “to son” and imagined Freddy signing boards for random kids at a demo and making sure they knew he was that dude

If I had to pick a skate Dad I might go Kenny Reed. I am tempted to pick Mike Ternasky as his works was as important to me as sesame street or the joy of painting. Way more valuable tho. As it wasn't a daily blessing.

I guess I could call Lance Pop too. On account of all the 411s.. Bet that would be toxic af tho. I hate you dad. You brain washed system shit you.
I hate you too you little fuckin gay ass Satan. You're just like your stupid mother. Except when you go bio. I claim those skills
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on April 16, 2024, 12:07:37 PM
I got some Rowan 2's coming in the mail, first pair of cupsoles in next to forever

regarding break-in - is just wearing them as non-skate skate shoes for a week or two the best option? Or is there some super cool, underground technique I should do?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: CarcassToss on April 16, 2024, 12:40:03 PM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?

Myself and many good friends have all switched away from Ace. It's about 75/25 Thunder/Venture. I'm trying Ventures right now and love them, but we all prefer these trucks to Aces. Ya, the grind is more harsh, but I can run my Ventures loose and not wheelbite as much AND there is more stability. Most people riding Aces don't need that much turn. It's super fun for cruising, but lots of tricks that scoop or land a bit crooked get really punished by the Ace responsiveness.

With all the bushings available now you can dial in the turn on any truck mostly to your liking. Once you get past that Thunders are much better for ledge skating for most as they pinch really well and if you land with your weight wrong the truck won't turn you out of a grind. I used to hate when I landed a bit too heel side on a fucking 50-50 and turned out of the grind on accident. I ate shit on a few high speed 50-50s on a shorter ledge because of this.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: herecomesaregular on April 16, 2024, 03:03:10 PM
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Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
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Myself and many good friends have all switched away from Ace. It's about 75/25 Thunder/Venture. I'm trying Ventures right now and love them, but we all prefer these trucks to Aces. Ya, the grind is more harsh, but I can run my Ventures loose and not wheelbite as much AND there is more stability. Most people riding Aces don't need that much turn. It's super fun for cruising, but lots of tricks that scoop or land a bit crooked get really punished by the Ace responsiveness.

With all the bushings available now you can dial in the turn on any truck mostly to your liking. Once you get past that Thunders are much better for ledge skating for most as they pinch really well and if you land with your weight wrong the truck won't turn you out of a grind. I used to hate when I landed a bit too heel side on a fucking 50-50 and turned out of the grind on accident. I ate shit on a few high speed 50-50s on a shorter ledge because of this.

Holy shit you might have just changed my life with this insight. I’ve been having that happen lately and had not even considered it was my trucks.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: manuduncan on April 16, 2024, 05:41:55 PM
I got some Rowan 2's coming in the mail, first pair of cupsoles in next to forever

regarding break-in - is just wearing them as non-skate skate shoes for a week or two the best option? Or is there some super cool, underground technique I should do?

i had the rowan 2s when they first came out in the dodger blue

at first i disliked them because they took longer than i was used to to break in, like 4 sessions in and i still felt like my pinky toe was getting squished

but after that it finally gave and it's one of the longest lasting shoes i've had

i'd say just have another skate shoe to rotate it in and out with
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Post by: moonordie on April 17, 2024, 01:06:17 AM
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Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?
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Myself and many good friends have all switched away from Ace. It's about 75/25 Thunder/Venture. I'm trying Ventures right now and love them, but we all prefer these trucks to Aces. Ya, the grind is more harsh, but I can run my Ventures loose and not wheelbite as much AND there is more stability. Most people riding Aces don't need that much turn. It's super fun for cruising, but lots of tricks that scoop or land a bit crooked get really punished by the Ace responsiveness.

With all the bushings available now you can dial in the turn on any truck mostly to your liking. Once you get past that Thunders are much better for ledge skating for most as they pinch really well and if you land with your weight wrong the truck won't turn you out of a grind. I used to hate when I landed a bit too heel side on a fucking 50-50 and turned out of the grind on accident. I ate shit on a few high speed 50-50s on a shorter ledge because of this.
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Holy shit you might have just changed my life with this insight. I’ve been having that happen lately and had not even considered it was my trucks.
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
Btw thx for that nice reply. Gnarded
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: rawbertson. on April 17, 2024, 07:05:12 AM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?

I wouldn't say I "switched" I just enjoy riding both
I like all the trucks for different reasons (Indy, Venture, Thunder, and Ace at least - Hoping to try SLAPPY soon)
You have to skate different on them. have to change your timings and the way you do your turns. the paths you take into grinds or how you would hit a line will be different. imo it makes you a more well rounded skater if you can skate different shapes / trucks / wheels. also when you are old and shitty and you cant be assed to learn any new tricks, its a good thing to work on.

when i was under like 25 or so i just rode indy / bones / DLX and i figured even if i ever did get sponsored i would never get on those teams i would probably have been lucky to get krux / satori / monkey stix so i tried to not even let setup stuff bother me cause i always had this mentality like if you are half decent at skating you can make it work on anything...
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Frank and Fred on April 17, 2024, 07:48:51 AM
Any Intel from somebody who switched from Ace to Thunder?

I switch between the two.

I like Thunder on short wheelbases and small wheels. I'd also ride Thunder if I had access to  a vert ramp. But for the bowls, tight transitions, curbs, janky little spots and inter dimensional skateboarding, Ace 'feel' way better. I prefer the Thunder grind and pinch but I am  prone to ghost pop on Thunder for some reason. When I am on my game and skating at my best, Thunder really deliver and I get a more snappy explosive pop. However, I am mostly a sloppy old man with no precision so Ace just make skateboarding more fun for me. Using a riser livens Thunders up a bit.

All that to say, depends on the set up and I love them both and funnily enough I can switch between them without too much of an adjustment period.

Now.. if rumors are true that Thunder are working on a new model that turns more in an Indy/ Ace vein... well......
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Coastal Fever on April 17, 2024, 01:06:08 PM
Question for Canadian shop employees… is anybody actually buying all those $200 pants you carry?  If so, who?  It must be like 95% rich international students who don’t own skateboards.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 17, 2024, 05:14:50 PM
Question for Canadian shop employees… is anybody actually buying all those $200 pants you carry?  If so, who?  It must be like 95% rich international students who don’t own skateboards.


Not Canadian, Australian, so much the same price here, but yes people are buying lots of the high priced clothing, more so younger dudes, I would say between 18 to mid 20s working and have their own money but fewer big bills, no mortgage, etc so they can work, skate and spend money on that sort of thing a lot more than maybe the slightly older set, or younger set do.

I am always amazed at the price of some skate brand apparel, but Polar 93 or big boy jeans and the like do sell well, way more than I would have thought.  I used to make do with department store jeans or op shop pants growing up, admittedly it was 80s to 90s right through the big pants small wheels era, then just whatever I could afford, but almost never skate brand pants.

The difference is I think I have a lot more clothing overall, compared to some others who only have a few pairs of skate jeans, but they have gone for the brands like Polar for all their jeans, more so than a dozen department store jeans for the same total cost.

Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Fooj on April 22, 2024, 12:25:15 AM
What % of your Slap time is spent on Shoes & Gear vs UWTB? Personally its 90/10 but i feel like 50/50 would be a healthier balance 
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Post by: rikki on April 22, 2024, 01:09:02 AM
I'm 100 % Shoes & Gear. I don't think I would have the time for anything else, acknowledging how easy it is for my addictive personality to get sucked into all the banter. I don't want to be on Slap for hours daily.
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Post by: moonordie on April 22, 2024, 02:26:21 AM
What % of your Slap time is spent on Shoes & Gear vs UWTB? Personally its 90/10 but i feel like 50/50 would be a healthier balance
Shoes & gear preferably, UWTB gets way too gnarly at times.
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Post by: CarcassToss on April 22, 2024, 07:18:58 AM
I heard a quote once that Twitter is just a game of who can start the best argument where best is defined as how angry you can get. UWTB is basically an unhinged version of Twitter. The troll hating can be amusing, but it's generally best to look in and not get caught up.

All the other parts of Slap seem like more normal skate discussion you'd have anywhere else.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: smg1138 on April 22, 2024, 01:23:26 PM
Something I've been wondering for a while. Are hollow kingpins/axles stronger or weaker than solid ones? Think I read somewhere (probably here) that hollow kingpins are stronger because they can be heat treated on both sides. But my intuition tells me solid would be stronger because more metal. Does anybody know the answer for sure?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Scottboarding on April 22, 2024, 02:03:53 PM
What % of your Slap time is spent on Shoes & Gear vs UWTB? Personally its 90/10 but i feel like 50/50 would be a healthier balance
I'm probably 95% Shoes and Gear, 5% Classified (to see if there are shoes or gear I want to buy). So 100% in a way.
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Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 22, 2024, 04:22:44 PM
Something I've been wondering for a while. Are hollow kingpins/axles stronger or weaker than solid ones? Think I read somewhere (probably here) that hollow kingpins are stronger because they can be heat treated on both sides. But my intuition tells me solid would be stronger because more metal. Does anybody know the answer for sure?


Hollow are definitely harder metal, especially catching a hollow kingpin on any edge, it gouges it, where as regular kingpin no where near as much.

As to stronger, it could be said yes, but I have still seen hollow axles bend, sometimes faster than regular axles, so I tend to be happier with solid / standard axles and kingpins on my setups.

For weight though, sure they are lighter, which is why they would be more popular for a lot of people, with other things as mentioned above less likely to affect their decision on product choice.




Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: lulz on April 22, 2024, 06:56:41 PM
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Shoes & gear preferably, UWTB gets way too gnarly at times.

90% s&g
10% everything else, some times there’s ones gems. Like this: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116360.30
lol
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on April 22, 2024, 10:29:30 PM
Am I bugging or did deck prices just take a 10$ USD jump? I’m seeing averages near 75$ in a few places for ye olden popsicle standards.
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Post by: Xen on April 22, 2024, 11:02:42 PM
Am I bugging or did deck prices just take a 10$ USD jump? I’m seeing averages near 75$ in a few places for ye olden popsicle standards.

Been that why for a while now….sale / clearance in the $55-65 range
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Post by: Fooj on April 23, 2024, 01:09:09 AM
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Am I bugging or did deck prices just take a 10$ USD jump? I’m seeing averages near 75$ in a few places for ye olden popsicle standards.
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Been that why for a while now….sale / clearance in the $55-65 range

Its gotten to the point where i almost exclusively buy decks during black friday now
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: DakotaRed on April 23, 2024, 03:07:39 AM
Anyone know how the Busenitz vintage fit compared to the pros and vulc II's?
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Post by: MyUserName on April 23, 2024, 04:28:41 AM
Not shoes and gear related, but I figured I’d ask here.

Can someone confirm Dick Rizzo’s five parts from 2023? I asked in a previous thread shortly before New Years and didn’t get a reply, but some recent article I read said he had five parts and I only counted four: Huf, Bronze, This is a Window, and maybe that short Simulation one. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
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Post by: jakeumms on April 23, 2024, 11:10:49 AM
Not shoes and gear related, but I figured I’d ask here.

Can someone confirm Dick Rizzo’s five parts from 2023? I asked in a previous thread shortly before New Years and didn’t get a reply, but some recent article I read said he had five parts and I only counted four: Huf, Bronze, This is a Window, and maybe that short Simulation one. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0uWrNJhG1y/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
4th @dickrizzo part in 6 months! This one via @jeffcecere’s great new video, “This Is A Window” #linkinbio

Are we sure it's 5? Maybe counting Keepsake?
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 23, 2024, 03:44:13 PM
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Am I bugging or did deck prices just take a 10$ USD jump? I’m seeing averages near 75$ in a few places for ye olden popsicle standards.
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Been that why for a while now….sale / clearance in the $55-65 range
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Its gotten to the point where i almost exclusively buy decks during black friday now


Yeah specials and sales can really help to keep things going for the average skater in the last year, with the small but very noticeable rise in wholesale prices, which then means a significant increase at the retail end.

Everything in general has been going up in the last short while, some places more so than others, or even some drops, so some shops sitting on old stock might not have put prices up, but others with new stock at new higher wholesale prices would have put things up a bit more, at least from what I have seen here in AU as well.


Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: roba on April 24, 2024, 06:17:00 AM
going to buy new wheels next month, i wanted the 93 spitfires but i think i'm gonna hold those off because they've been out in a month and i'm not sure if they last or not (the 97s don't)

i'm looking at the ville wester 58mm classics and the big beatdowns 60mm classics. i ride venture 5.8s, everything solid, cast baseplate and shit, no risers. i did 58s before and i can work with that. is there a huge difference in feel between the 58s and 60s? i never had wheels bigger than 58mm before but 58s feel good and i kinda want to try and go bigger. i don't really care about wheelbite but i guess that's something to consider too.
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 24, 2024, 07:48:49 AM
Anyone hear have the Converse Pro Leather Vulcs? Are they TTS?





https://www.tactics.com/a/e0n4/2/2.webp
Title: Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2024, 09:24:54 AM
going to buy new wheels next month, i wanted the 93 spitfires but i think i'm gonna hold those off because they've been out in a month and i'm not sure if they last or not (the 97s don't)

i'm looking at the ville wester 58mm classics and the big beatdowns 60mm classics. i ride venture 5.8s, everything solid, cast baseplate and shit, no risers. i did 58s before and i can work with that. is there a huge difference in feel between the 58s and 60s? i never had wheels bigger than 58mm before but 58s feel good and i kinda want to try and go bigger. i don't really care about wheelbite but i guess that's something to consider too.


You will have one extra mm from the truck axle to the ground (and one closer to the board) so it is not a huge difference there, just a bit, but in skateboarding even a single mm can be a big difference to some people.

The width however is a fair bit more, 58 mm Classics being 35.2 wide with an 18 mm riding patch, whereas the 60 mm wheels are almost in big boy territory at 38.5 mm wide with a 22.5 mm riding surface.

Some people have said they thought the 60 mm size was actually Classic Full which they almost are, so sure they are a bit wider all round, but not too crazy to be like the FULL listed wheels, especially Radial Full wheels, but in looking at the wheels on a board, they sit well over the axle nuts and in a few mm as well, compared to the 58 mm Classics.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring24/05-sf-sp24-d1.jpg