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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
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The ones I have seen are pretty damn squared.
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The last one i bought (8.75 visitor graphic about 2 months ago) had a squared nose and tail.
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I saw a 7.6" and 7.75" at a shop and they both had the blunt nose. So it seems to be across sizes. Very annoying.
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I had a AWS 8.1 that had a normal nose but the tail wasnt tapered as much. This was before habitat took over AWS though
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I had a AWS 8.1 that had a normal nose but the tail wasnt tapered as much. This was before habitat took over AWS though
Yeah, even when they were briefly under Tum Yeto (when they first came back) they still had a pretty normal tapered pop shape. I even had a couple 8.38"s that were borderline pointy then.
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The 8.25s at least are pretty squared.
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I saw a 7.6" and 7.75" at a shop and they both had the blunt nose. So it seems to be across sizes. Very annoying.
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Can confirm 7.875 and 8 have a big squared nose
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Got an 8.125 Alien right now and it’s a pretty full shape but I would not call it square. Definitely not nothing like a FA/Hockey
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Ive skated three of the 8.25s in the last year…”full” is a great description
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
A few places might have different stock, as there do seem to be some different shapes out there, either old stock or those shops have stock from somewhere other than BBS - EU and South America are on other wood - but in USA and here in AU it is all BBS and most of the boards I had seen recently were all in that longer blunt shape with shorter wheelbases, so quite long kicks.
I did think that a couple of the smaller boards 8" or less didn't have that same shape, but they could be old stock too.
Tucked away are quite a few older AWS decks, all BBS and all the more normal shapes in 8.38 and 8.5 as I got rid of the blunt shapes after I realised I didn't like them, but others I know do really like them and are getting more, so even though you and I don't like them, they do seem popular.
Now they seem to be releasing more "classic graphic options" I can see your yearning for those boards, as they were amazing back in the day, whenever I could find any (and could afford them).
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625
Guessing this one at 7.625 is a bit too narrow for you, but it looks more pointy and is on sale too.
$50 Sale / checkout code: FIFTY
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625_1500x.jpg)
There is a 7.75 on sale too, which also looks normal, not squared off at all.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/ABBREVIATED_DOT_RED_720x.jpg)
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
A few places might have different stock, as there do seem to be some different shapes out there, either old stock or those shops have stock from somewhere other than BBS - EU and South America are on other wood - but in USA and here in AU it is all BBS and most of the boards I had seen recently were all in that longer blunt shape with shorter wheelbases, so quite long kicks.
I did think that a couple of the smaller boards 8" or less didn't have that same shape, but they could be old stock too.
Tucked away are quite a few older AWS decks, all BBS and all the more normal shapes in 8.38 and 8.5 as I got rid of the blunt shapes after I realised I didn't like them, but others I know do really like them and are getting more, so even though you and I don't like them, they do seem popular.
Now they seem to be releasing more "classic graphic options" I can see your yearning for those boards, as they were amazing back in the day, whenever I could find any (and could afford them).
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625
Guessing this one at 7.625 is a bit too narrow for you, but it looks more pointy and is on sale too.
$50 Sale / checkout code: FIFTY
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625_1500x.jpg)
There is a 7.75 on sale too, which also looks normal, not squared off at all.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/ABBREVIATED_DOT_RED_720x.jpg)
I don't want to be a naysayer, but I swear the polaroid 7.6" I saw at the shop had the blunt nose. I will see if it is still there and take a top pic later this week, but that one above does indeed have a nice classic shape.
Also worth mentioning, I'm pretty sure I've seen some DSM-pressed AWS boards for the euro market (regrowth stamp) that have the classic shape.
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Got an 8.125 Alien right now and it’s a pretty full shape but I would not call it square. Definitely not nothing like a FA/Hockey
Yeah agreed. I loved the Alien 7.875s I skated last year.
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
A few places might have different stock, as there do seem to be some different shapes out there, either old stock or those shops have stock from somewhere other than BBS - EU and South America are on other wood - but in USA and here in AU it is all BBS and most of the boards I had seen recently were all in that longer blunt shape with shorter wheelbases, so quite long kicks.
I did think that a couple of the smaller boards 8" or less didn't have that same shape, but they could be old stock too.
Tucked away are quite a few older AWS decks, all BBS and all the more normal shapes in 8.38 and 8.5 as I got rid of the blunt shapes after I realised I didn't like them, but others I know do really like them and are getting more, so even though you and I don't like them, they do seem popular.
Now they seem to be releasing more "classic graphic options" I can see your yearning for those boards, as they were amazing back in the day, whenever I could find any (and could afford them).
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks
https://www.alienworkshop.com/collections/decks/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625
Guessing this one at 7.625 is a bit too narrow for you, but it looks more pointy and is on sale too.
$50 Sale / checkout code: FIFTY
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/polaroid-93-redux-7-625_1500x.jpg)
There is a 7.75 on sale too, which also looks normal, not squared off at all.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/ABBREVIATED_DOT_RED_720x.jpg)
Those are basically the 2 sizes I use (except football/egg shapes). I did not join the 8" GANG ! I mostly skated AWS/then Habitat 7.625s from like 96-04. May check deez out
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Those are basically the 2 sizes I use (except football/egg shapes). I did not join the 8" GANG ! I mostly skated AWS/then Habitat 7.625s from like 96-04. May check deez out
Re sizes, yes that is why I put those up for you.
From the AWS shop, there are five (5) of the 7.625 and one (1) of the 7.75 deck sizes remaining.
Also this might just be nothing more than a guess, but I am thinking that size board just does not move as fast as many other sizes (read 8+ boards) so they might be older stock which they are clearing out, given all their boards seem to now be going the way of the blunt shapes.
Other places might have the newer shapes in stock.
There are definitely some other AWS boards out there, but I don't think there would be that many in USA from other places, mainly the Dwindle AWS boards being noted in the EU and Asian areas, from what I could see.
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So the AWS / habitat are not similar too fa/hockey shapes?
Riding my first hockey rn and I like it a lot.
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So the AWS / habitat are not similar too fa/hockey shapes?
Riding my first hockey rn and I like it a lot.
Some are closer, but you need to get the right shape (square/full) and most commonly in the 8.25/8.125"; from what I have gathered nothing comes close to the FA/Hockey shapes.
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
7.6 alien 14.1 WB by the way
7.5 girl
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Hmm looks decent in that picture. Thanks for the pic. Girl looks a bit more pointy maybe? Looks pretty regular shaped to me, which works
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
Also a huge fan of older Habitat/Alien boards. I got a run of decks printed recently by Woodchuck Laminates with my friend's artwork. They claim on their site that their shape was developed by Habitat/Alien team riders in 2009 and I have to say that I am really digging the shape a lot. I just put the first one on last week and it's feeling incredible so far.
pterraskateco.bigcartel.com (http://pterraskateco.bigcartel.com) Use code SLAP for $10 off (essentially free shipping US only). Anything I get back over my investment on boards goes to the US Forest Service's Plant-A-Tree program. Just 8.25 and 8.5 at the moment as those are the sizes the people I film with and I skate.
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link to habitat 8.125 shape
https://upriseskateshop.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-quartus-deck-gray-8-125?variant=42682724122839
Habitat Skateboards
Skateboard Deck
Suciu - Quartus Deck
Gray
8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0
Was that the one that was supposed to be the twin kick shape, or am I thinking of something else?
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link to habitat 8.125 shape
https://upriseskateshop.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-quartus-deck-gray-8-125?variant=42682724122839
Habitat Skateboards
Skateboard Deck
Suciu - Quartus Deck
Gray
8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0
Was that the one that was supposed to be the twin kick shape, or am I thinking of something else?
I think the twin kick was like 8.3 with a 14.3 ish wheel base if I remember but I could be confusing it with another one
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link to habitat 8.125 shape
https://upriseskateshop.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-quartus-deck-gray-8-125?variant=42682724122839
Habitat Skateboards
Skateboard Deck
Suciu - Quartus Deck
Gray
8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0
Was that the one that was supposed to be the twin kick shape, or am I thinking of something else?
Somewhere in my muddled mind, I was thinking they were doing a smaller one too, but you are right, the other that started with the Owlien which I have is 8.375 x 32.2 with the 14.375 wb or something like that.
Felt like I read somewhere a few guys were riding that twin shape for a bit but then they wanted a bit more scaled down version too, but I couldn't find it when I went looking.
Still very squared off ends as per the standard AWS / Habitat shapes for the current era. Shorter wheelbases and longer kicks, but maybe not quite so long on that one.
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the 7.875 is fairly pointy relative to their other shapes. Full nose but pointy tail. 14" WB.
Nice deck, I'd happily skate another.
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So, are their current shapes more square nose/tail or still pointy'ish nose/ tail? I haven't been to my local shop in a while - I don't think they have any currently. Historically, old AWS/ Habitat are my favorite boards ever, but have not had one in a long time. Kinda want to hit those up again, but I'm not into squared noses or tails. Thanks in advance
Also a huge fan of older Habitat/Alien boards. I got a run of decks printed recently by Woodchuck Laminates with my friend's artwork. They claim on their site that their shape was developed by Habitat/Alien team riders in 2009 and I have to say that I am really digging the shape a lot. I just put the first one on last week and it's feeling incredible so far.
pterraskateco.bigcartel.com (http://pterraskateco.bigcartel.com) Use code SLAP for $10 off (essentially free shipping US only). Anything I get back over my investment on boards goes to the US Forest Service's Plant-A-Tree program. Just 8.25 and 8.5 at the moment as those are the sizes the people I film with and I skate.
How was the production/process for getting these made? Were you able to figure out what size you wanted or could you only stick to their premade shapes?
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Real question-- why does AWS/Habitat currently get so much hate as a "fake" company. Ive seen that a bunch on slap, though out in the world where I am on east coast I still see theM (and like the 8 inch 14 inch wheelbase as my regular ride). Is the issue too many east coasters in there 30s still into it, or the Dyrdek years and collapse? Seems kind of irrelevant to the current teams/video production which I thought has been great in last few years. Putting that aside, they are almost always on sale (i.e., easily can find them 40-50 online for good BBS wood). Why the hate? For what its worth for those on here, the 8 inch feels very similar to the classic late 90s alien shapes. The nose is comfortable but not totally square (in my view)-- that said I dont remember the pointy alien era. I have one of the 7.75 minor's logos as well and dont think the nose seems strange on that-- if anything feels solid considering its a 14 inch wheelbase versus other 7.75s I've seen recently that collapsed like toys or had a stretched out wheelbase .
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link to habitat 8.125 shape
https://upriseskateshop.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-quartus-deck-gray-8-125?variant=42682724122839
Habitat Skateboards
Skateboard Deck
Suciu - Quartus Deck
Gray
8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0
Was that the one that was supposed to be the twin kick shape, or am I thinking of something else?
Somewhere in my muddled mind, I was thinking they were doing a smaller one too, but you are right, the other that started with the Owlien which I have is 8.375 x 32.2 with the 14.375 wb or something like that.
Felt like I read somewhere a few guys were riding that twin shape for a bit but then they wanted a bit more scaled down version too, but I couldn't find it when I went looking.
Still very squared off ends as per the standard AWS / Habitat shapes for the current era. Shorter wheelbases and longer kicks, but maybe not quite so long on that one.
That SovSect twin is just a huge boat. I didn’t care for the length with that WB and kick dims. If they made their 8.25 a twin with that WB it would be stellar…or the 8.375 say, 31.875” it might work, but big square kick twins feel much bigger than pointy/rounded twins.
Imagine an 8.5 FA twin vs and 8.5 dlx twin using their standard 8.5 dims, massive difference.
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I'm liking the latest drop of AWS boards more than I normally do. For the 8.25, does anyone know where that extra .25 is? Specs on the site have it .25 longer than the typical BBS 8.25. Just wondering if these have a longer nose, tail, or both.
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link to habitat 8.125 shape
https://upriseskateshop.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-quartus-deck-gray-8-125?variant=42682724122839
Habitat Skateboards
Skateboard Deck
Suciu - Quartus Deck
Gray
8.125 X 31.5 WB 14.0
Was that the one that was supposed to be the twin kick shape, or am I thinking of something else?
Somewhere in my muddled mind, I was thinking they were doing a smaller one too, but you are right, the other that started with the Owlien which I have is 8.375 x 32.2 with the 14.375 wb or something like that.
Felt like I read somewhere a few guys were riding that twin shape for a bit but then they wanted a bit more scaled down version too, but I couldn't find it when I went looking.
Still very squared off ends as per the standard AWS / Habitat shapes for the current era. Shorter wheelbases and longer kicks, but maybe not quite so long on that one.
That SovSect twin is just a huge boat. I didn’t care for the length with that WB and kick dims. If they made their 8.25 a twin with that WB it would be stellar…or the 8.375 say, 31.875” it might work, but big square kick twins feel much bigger than pointy/rounded twins.
Imagine an 8.5 FA twin vs and 8.5 dlx twin using their standard 8.5 dims, massive difference.
Are you referring to the Suciu custom twin tip shape? If the dims on Tactics are accurate that is a massive nose / tail, but would go right with Venture forged.
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
Was planning on trying 1 out, if you got pics that would be helpful.
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@rocklobster
That is the same board / dimensions as the one I have here, which was the Owlien when searching.
I don't think I have taken any pics of it, but here is a listing that shows side view angle with a pretty big tail.
https://www.supereight.net/shop/alien-workshop-owlien-twin-8-375-skateboard-deck/
(https://www.supereight.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Alien_Workshop_Owlien_Twin_8_375_Skateboard_Deck_1.jpg)
And this one:
https://monument.pl/product-pol-17465-Deck-Alien-Warkshop-Owlien-Twin.html
(https://monument.pl/pol_pl_Deck-Alien-Warkshop-Owlien-Twin-17465_4.jpg)
(https://monument.pl/pol_pl_Deck-Alien-Warkshop-Owlien-Twin-17465_3.jpg)
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I'm liking the latest drop of AWS boards more than I normally do. For the 8.25, does anyone know where that extra .25 is? Specs on the site have it .25 longer than the typical BBS 8.25. Just wondering if these have a longer nose, tail, or both.
All AWS boards now seem to have a shorter wheelbase and longer nose / tail for the overall length, unless they have changed again.
This one might give you what I would consider fairly accurate measurements, from one I saw a while back.
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/joey-obrien-stag-825-skateboard-deck
SPECS
SIZE 8.25
WIDTH (IN): 8.25
LENGTH (IN): 32.25
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.25
NOSE (IN): 7.125
TAIL (IN): 6.875
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So they lengthen the nose and tail? Not just a larger nose?
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Thanks @Mbrimson88 I'll pick one up if I see it on discount, I'm a risk taker.
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So they lengthen the nose and tail? Not just a larger nose?
Yes, both the recent AWS and Habitat I have tend to be longer nose and tail. AWS still has some with larger wheelbase on the wider side.
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Does habitat use the generic BBS 8.3?
Currently on an uma 8.3 and the dims seem the same and I’m pretty sure they are the same shape just curious.
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Alien and Habitat use NO generic BBS shapes. And yes- they make the kicks very long. The Owlien Twin has a 6.875 nose/tail, which is the same length as the BBS Generic 8.38 nose. The generic tail is 6.625, so the extra length is there. On the normal decks, same thing.
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Alien and Habitat use NO generic BBS shapes. And yes- they make the kicks very long. The Owlien Twin has a 6.875 nose/tail, which is the same length as the BBS Generic 8.38 nose. The generic tail is 6.625, so the extra length is there. On the normal decks, same thing.
So are Alien and Habitat the same shapes/steepness? Seems like Metal uses different shapes in their lineup.
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Alien and Habitat use NO generic BBS shapes. And yes- they make the kicks very long. The Owlien Twin has a 6.875 nose/tail, which is the same length as the BBS Generic 8.38 nose. The generic tail is 6.625, so the extra length is there. On the normal decks, same thing.
Interesting, on paper both the habitat and Uma 8.3 looks similar but I haven’t looked at the nose tail lengths yet. Not interested in the twin shape but when I ran the 8.0-8.25 habitats I actually never felt that tails to be that off feeling.
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I messaged Metal and they use AWS/Habitat shapes. They claim no genetics but their 8.375 looks the same dims so I dunno.
Curious how the 8.25 skates with the huge kicks and Thunders- anyone have any feedback?
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Funny cause they seem to have changed over from the normal shapes from a while back, now only doing those longer but stubby shapes, which combined with short wheelbases makes for an interesting board, if that is what you are into.
Their older series were / used to be normal popsicles, but that is from pre pandemic days, which is almost too long ago now to count.
Shapes / sizes as follows that I had / still have:
8.375 x 32 with 14.375 wb and normal kicks, pretty much the same as the current Passport or Polar decks
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.375 wb, same exact shape as the DLX 8.5 mid size
With or without graphics, as I used to take some of those graphics off just to have a good BBS board, they still skated like DLX wood and so much better than some other boards I was trying at the time.
In looking, there is very little information out there, no catalogs or anything I could find from that period, so it might have been when Mike Hill moved away from Tum Yeto and went back to being independent, so just used generic BBS shapes until they worked out their own thing and changed over all their boards to the current stubby shapes.
The one board I could find was from the Mystery Monk series that I do still have in 8.5 but I don't have the graphic name or other info for any of the used boards or others from that period.
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I messaged Metal and they use AWS/Habitat shapes. They claim no genetics but their 8.375 looks the same dims so I dunno.
Curious how the 8.25 skates with the huge kicks and Thunders- anyone have any feedback?
My friend swears by that combination, last 6 boards have been AWS / Habitat 8.25 with Thunder 148 Hollow Lights.
Re the 8.38 off their website:
AWS 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.25 (https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/joey-flight-instructor-8-125-8-375?variant=40506791788708)
Metal 8.38 x 32.0 x 14.38 (https://www.metalskateboards.com/products/ancient-logo-medium-8-375)
Funny cause they seem to have changed over from the normal shapes from a while back, now only doing those longer but stubby shapes, which combined with short wheelbases makes for an interesting board, if that is what you are into.
Their older series were / used to be normal popsicles, but that is from pre pandemic days, which is almost too long ago now to count.
Shapes / sizes as follows that I had / still have:
8.375 x 32 with 14.375 wb and normal kicks, pretty much the same as the current Passport or Polar decks
8.5 x 32.25 with 14.375 wb, same exact shape as the DLX 8.5 mid size
With or without graphics, as I used to take some of those graphics off just to have a good BBS board, they still skated like DLX wood and so much better than some other boards I was trying at the time.
In looking, there is very little information out there, no catalogs or anything I could find from that period, so it might have been when Mike Hill moved away from Tum Yeto and went back to being independent, so just used generic BBS shapes until they worked out their own thing and changed over all their boards to the current stubby shapes.
The one board I could find was from the Mystery Monk series that I do still have in 8.5 but I don't have the graphic name or other info for any of the used boards or others from that period.
They've used a lot of woodshops in the past few years, the Twin Peaks decks are PS Stix (https://habitatskateboards.com/products/twin-peaks-diorama-4-deck-set) and the NASA series has been PS Stix https://habitatskateboards.com/products/nasa-logo-array-white-8-0) and DSM.
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Anyone skate the Metal or AWS egg style boards that have come out recently? What trucks would you run on a 9 ish egg. Currently on Alien 8.75 and Habitat 8 alternatingly and hoping the egg will be a good middle ground and maybe can use Indys off the 8.75.
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Anyone skate the Metal or AWS egg style boards that have come out recently? What trucks would you run on a 9 ish egg. Currently on Alien 8.75 and Habitat 8 alternatingly and hoping the egg will be a good middle ground and maybe can use Indys off the 8.75.
I recently had the Gall 9.0 egg and used it with Ace AF1 low 60s (8.75). That was a perfect fit, i just hated how steep the concave was on the deck (i posted it in the setup thread a few weeks back)
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I'm skating the board linked below right now with some Venture 5.2 low forged hollows and 48mm spitfires. The nose and tail are pretty squared, this is the first board that is as squared as this that I've skated and I dig it so far. I'm about 5-10 hours of collective skating into the board and the wood is holding up well, although it has begun to develop pressure cracks within the last session or two so it's starting to flex a bit more. That isn't really a weak point for me, I prefer my boards to be a bit more flexy than stiff but I suppose it's worth noting anyways. It's on sale right now so if you're in the market for an 8 incher and like square tips I would recommend it.
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/tri-color-pod-8-0-p-b-1
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Anyone skate the metal 8.625. Is it an alien shape?
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Some ridden and unridden recent AWS and habitats, with random pennswood hydrodipped for the kids for good measure in my home office.(https://i.ibb.co/sq8kD9T/IMG-4289.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq8kD9T)
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Some ridden and unridden recent AWS and habitats, with random pennswood hydrodipped for the kids for good measure in my home office.(https://i.ibb.co/sq8kD9T/IMG-4289.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq8kD9T)
That is a good looking wall of boards. Probably my favorite decks at the current time. I love the 8.25 x 32.25 x 14.25.
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Some ridden and unridden recent AWS and habitats, with random pennswood hydrodipped for the kids for good measure in my home office.(https://i.ibb.co/sq8kD9T/IMG-4289.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq8kD9T)
That is a good looking wall of boards. Probably my favorite decks at the current time. I love the 8.25 x 32.25 x 14.25.
It took a while to get used to the longer tail (6.875 vs 6.5") but it's growing on me, the friends who rode them agreed the timing for their pop was off and felt heavier than usual. The nose is really nice too, like a more forgiving FA without the steepness or squareness.
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(https://i.ibb.co/Ctvz7yk/ALien.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ctvz7yk)
And the current family daily basement quarter session riders (im on the 8.75 which I just replaced, son (6) on the spectrum complete, daughter (3) on the magenta 90s style hand me down
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Some ridden and unridden recent AWS and habitats, with random pennswood hydrodipped for the kids for good measure in my home office.(https://i.ibb.co/sq8kD9T/IMG-4289.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq8kD9T)
That is a good looking wall of boards. Probably my favorite decks at the current time. I love the 8.25 x 32.25 x 14.25.
It took a while to get used to the longer tail (6.875 vs 6.5") but it's growing on me, the friends who rode them agreed the timing for their pop was off and felt heavier than usual. The nose is really nice too, like a more forgiving FA without the steepness or squareness.
Agree - I think the nose is perfect. The longer tail clicked for me almost immediately. This deck paired with Ventures feels perfect.
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Next on my list as I have a lot of smaller boards right now is hoping alien comes out with a 9+ inch egg. Metal and Alien both have eggs right now, but im worried they will be too small for me at 8.75 eggs for a "big board" given im used to the roomier alien noses and tails.
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
Depends where in the world you are.
In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.
China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.
For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.
The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker. Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.
Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)
From the woodshop thread, I used to assume if it has the AWS logo top marking they'd be BBS, but apparently not. Some of the older ones still have the black and white Made In Mexico sticker which are BBS.
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
Depends where in the world you are.
In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.
China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.
For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.
The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker. Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.
Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)
From the woodshop thread, I used to assume if it has the AWS logo top marking they'd be BBS, but apparently not. Some of the older ones still have the black and white Made In Mexico sticker which are BBS.
All of that would be very useful in the Woodshop thread, if I can quote to there, or you guys just post in that thread too?
Not a worry either way, but it definitely helps having it all in the one place:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.750
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
Depends where in the world you are.
In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.
China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.
For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.
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Are aws still bbs Decks? Which ones are?
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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.
The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker. Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.
Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)
From the woodshop thread, I used to assume if it has the AWS logo top marking they'd be BBS, but apparently not. Some of the older ones still have the black and white Made In Mexico sticker which are BBS.
All of that would be very useful in the Woodshop thread, if I can quote to there, or you guys just post in that thread too?
Not a worry either way, but it definitely helps having it all in the one place:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.750
I don't have problem with being quoted in another thread. I'm glad that this info can help others.
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And the shapes differ too from where they were made?
That would suck. I want a brand where I have staple wood supplier and shape.
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Good sleuthing @commander jameson, I assumed the Twin Tails were BBS based on what Habitat mentioned in their DM, but I noticed they were missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker, instead having the silver one. DSM is the only woodshop that proudly mentions Epoxy in their product descriptions.
Regarding the shapes I'll let you know in a few weeks, ordered some Habitat / AWS twins to try out.
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Good sleuthing @commander jameson, I assumed the Twin Tails were BBS based on what Habitat mentioned in their DM, but I noticed they were missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker, instead having the silver one. DSM is the only woodshop that proudly mentions Epoxy in their product descriptions.
Regarding the shapes I'll let you know in a few weeks, ordered some Habitat / AWS twins to try out.
Cool, thanks!
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What do folks think of the new Alien/Habitat seasons? I got a Sammy Montano welcome shaped deck, but haven't skated it yet. Anyone skated the PS Stix Austyn Gillete yet? I've got a board backlog, so likely won't get one, but liked the wheelwell
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Pissed me off that you don’t really know what you get. I hate it when brands have different shapes and wood.
All over the place shit.
I think I switch to GX or quasi.
Any cheaper brand with rounder noses and with not all over the place decks?
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Pissed me off that you don’t really know what you get. I hate it when brands have different shapes and wood.
All over the place shit.
I think I switch to GX or quasi.
Any cheaper brand with rounder noses and with not all over the place decks?
Pizza if you can put up with the graphics are PS Stix, $30 on The Drop before the 20% discount count. I think they cleared out their Clutch decks from 2021 / 2022 and are all PS Stix now. They regularly do 3 for $100 mystery boxes with grip.
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Pissed me off that you don’t really know what you get. I hate it when brands have different shapes and wood.
All over the place shit.
I think I switch to GX or quasi.
Any cheaper brand with rounder noses and with not all over the place decks?
Pizza if you can put up with the graphics are PS Stix, $30 on The Drop before the 20% discount count. I think they cleared out their Clutch decks from 2021 / 2022 and are all PS Stix now. They regularly do 3 for $100 mystery boxes with grip.
Got a stack from the drop and they're 100% PS. I got 8.25s, and unless they are specified as a shovel nose they have a standard round/tapered nose.
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Pissed me off that you don’t really know what you get. I hate it when brands have different shapes and wood.
All over the place shit.
I think I switch to GX or quasi.
Any cheaper brand with rounder noses and with not all over the place decks?
Pizza if you can put up with the graphics are PS Stix, $30 on The Drop before the 20% discount count. I think they cleared out their Clutch decks from 2021 / 2022 and are all PS Stix now. They regularly do 3 for $100 mystery boxes with grip.
Got a stack from the drop and they're 100% PS. I got 8.25s, and unless they are specified as a shovel nose they have a standard round/tapered nose.
Flat? Because a ps habitat/workshop that wasn’t a rectangle, and flat ish…would be excellent
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My last two decks were Pizza!
They do have shovel nose and normal shape too, but honestly I didn’t feel a difference between them.
Edit: they sell pizza decks now for 80 euros here in Germany
Man i wish Alien would just do bbs decks with always the same shape.
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Yes-- am not loving that the Montano I got is not BBS I guess- saw china made sticker after checking when someone posted about Morgan flag on wood chop thread. So a number of the shapes must be china made as opposed to BBS which. look for-- do enjoy occasional chocolate/girl deck though so not losing my mind yet as haven't skated it yet. Anyone know if Metal eggs are BBS? May order one of those, but honestly the Montano shaped deck looks nice (does remind me of a shaped Girl deck in a way though-- wonder what China factory. Put another way- doesn't look like the China press they are getting the spectrum complete type price point decks I've seen over the years from (has a pretty intricate topside carving and graffiti and grey topside reminiscent of Girl loveseat type deck.
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https://www.metalskateboards.com/collections/skateboards
They still have the black and white BBS "Made in Mexico" stickers on there so you should be safe.
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Skating a Alien Deck again after two Pizza Decks and Alien has just the best shape I ever skated in my life.
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(https://i.ibb.co/VN3Zgg0/20230302-105054.jpg)
the one i have says mexico and it's just one of the basic og burst decks with one colored top ply, that makes no sense why a basic team deck would be bbs and a pro model would be china.
mind you this is the same deck that skatewarehouse sold for $44 retail before any sales discounts.
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Prior to 2020 they were most likely PS Stix / BBS, the move to China happened in right around or near 2020, definitely seen some Habitat decks with DSM sticker on them. 2021 - 2022 they were BBS and PS Stix, now they are using a mix of both. That's my guess anyway.
Got some Habitat twins coming in soon which are supposed to be a mix of BBS / DSM, I'll post up pics of the respective stickers when I get some time.
Edit: stocked up on 4 graphics
Frankie Spears Twin 8.38
(http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/13408_91798.jpg)
Suciu Twin 8.38
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium/Suciu-Lone-Wolf-Twin-8.375%22-Skateboard-Deck-_365398-front-US.jpg)
Habitat Apex 8.38
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/products/810054385554-1.jpg?v=1673905749&width=800)
Habitat Mosaic 8.38
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ae3w3/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/81190/168782/Mosaic-W__07040.1672675088.jpg?c=2)
All the barcode stickers had "Made in China" with the silver "Made With Premium North America Maple and Glue" sticker on the graphic.
I'm currently riding the same Suciu Wolf Twin graphic and it didn't have the silver sticker, pretty sure it came with the black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker.
Couple of other things:
- The graphic on the top ply is different too, mine came with the Habitat logo near the "tail", the newer "Made in China" one has the text logo along the side.
https://fasttimes.com.au/habitat-lone-wolf-deck-mark-suciu.html
- My BBS one had 2 dyed plys (top and bottom), the DSM one has 5 dyed plys (top, bottom, 3 in the middle)
- Shape wise they are 90% similar with a blunt nose and tail, I'd say the DSM tapered in a tiny bit more towards the nose / tail
Not too bummed on it, DSM makes some great decks.
I'll upload some pics once Imgur decides to work.
Edit: All the DSM ones have the respective logos etched on the front truck mounting holes
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Even the shape is different?
Man they fuck it up bad. Would be my go to decks if they just stick to their shape. But really not interested in never knowing what I’m about to get when ordering an Alien Deck.
What brand comes the closest to thah shape? Pizza has a small nose and tail compared.
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Even the shape is different?
Man they fuck it up bad. Would be my go to decks if they just stick to their shape. But really not interested in never knowing what I’m about to get when ordering an Alien Deck.
What brand comes the closest to thah shape? Pizza has a small nose and tail compared.
Can't really tell about the shape, but it's not drastic enough for me to write the DSM ones off. The used one I compared the new ones with is heavily skated, 3 weeks / 12-15 session in on park and street so it's not a fair comparison.
The shape is similar enough for me, I'm more concerned about the pop feel and how quick it razor tails. BBS are stiff but springy. DSM are very stiff and inflexible but do break in around 3-4 sessions in.
Does bum me out a little that they told me on DM they were using a mix of BBS / PS (pro boards) and DSM (team / logo boards), but now it seems like all the current run are entirely DSM.
Edit:
Sound wise the BBS ones sound a little more hollow and deeper, DSM higher pitched, Crailtap boards have the highest pitched. I know how a deck sounds is bro-science, but I had 1 lying around.
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I've had both, and the shapes are all but the same. I was pretty satisfied with both options
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I've had both, and the shapes are all but the same. I was pretty satisfied with both options
Both means bbs and dsm? And the shape was exactly the same?
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For what its worth, I think there are a few things going on here:
- Vast majority of AWS/Habitat boards and seemingly all Metal so far BBS
- Habitat does some collabs and pro models with PS Stix
- Price point China decks on AWS/Habitat completes-- in my experience these are still pretty funny and similar in shape to the BBS. This has always been the case.
- DSM Habitat and Alien pro boards in Europe? Also seemingly Alien Pro shaped boards in US (i.e., Morgan Flag, Montana class shaped board) and maybe more of the more recent Habitat boards. Are these also DSM or elsewhere China?
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(https://i.ibb.co/VN3Zgg0/20230302-105054.jpg)
the one i have says mexico and it's just one of the basic og burst decks with one colored top ply, that makes no sense why a basic team deck would be bbs and a pro model would be china.
mind you this is the same deck that skatewarehouse sold for $44 retail before any sales discounts.
That's how all of the ones I have seen looked here in AU, no matter which graphic they had.
I haven't seen the most recent drops of stock though.
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Just realized that habitat and AWS don’t have the exact same dimensions. Wheelbase on 8“ decks is different and the length minimal shorter in habitat decks.
Even some 8“alien decks have 14“ wb and some 14.25.
I hate it.
Edit: ah damn; habitat 8“ has different dimensions sometimes also
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Bought 3 AWS boards at the end of last year all BBS. I emailed them and asked lol. When in doubt just man up and dm them. They'll probably respond. Primitive cool guy'd me tho lol.
Joey Guevara Flight Instructor 8.125 x 14 x 31.5
Team OG Build x 2 same shape and dims as the Guevara board
That shape is amazing. Full nose and tail and perfect dims for me.
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Just realized that habitat and AWS don’t have the exact same dimensions. Wheelbase on 8“ decks is different and the length minimal shorter in habitat decks.
Even some 8“alien decks have 14“ wb and some 14.25.
I hate it.
Edit: ah damn; habitat 8“ has different dimensions sometimes also
You can look up on both of their websites the dimensions. But it also has to do with when they dropped. Pretty much all of the older drops for Habitat and Alien 8" boards have a 14.25 wheelbase, but the new ones are almost all 14" wheelbase. I think the only 8'' 14 wheelbase for either of them in previous drops is that Suciu topographic series. They each have 1 8" with a 14.25 wheelbase in the most recent drop, but all the rest of the 8s are 14. If you look up the dimensions on each website and match them, the Habitat and Alien ones are the exact same board. Trust me I have a lot (too many) of them.
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Just realized that habitat and AWS don’t have the exact same dimensions. Wheelbase on 8“ decks is different and the length minimal shorter in habitat decks.
Even some 8“alien decks have 14“ wb and some 14.25.
I hate it.
Edit: ah damn; habitat 8“ has different dimensions sometimes also
You can look up on both of their websites the dimensions. But it also has to do with when they dropped. Pretty much all of the older drops for Habitat and Alien 8" boards have a 14.25 wheelbase, but the new ones are almost all 14" wheelbase. I think the only 8'' 14 wheelbase for either of them in previous drops is that Suciu topographic series. They each have 1 8" with a 14.25 wheelbase in the most recent drop, but all the rest of the 8s are 14. If you look up the dimensions on each website and match them, the Habitat and Alien ones are the exact same board. Trust me I have a lot (too many) of them.
Ok, will do that. Right now I have a 14.25 wb 8“ AWS decks here that I will skate soon.
Do you prefer the 14 or 14.25 wb ones?
You think go good with low ventures?
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Just realized that habitat and AWS don’t have the exact same dimensions. Wheelbase on 8“ decks is different and the length minimal shorter in habitat decks.
Even some 8“alien decks have 14“ wb and some 14.25.
I hate it.
Edit: ah damn; habitat 8“ has different dimensions sometimes also
You can look up on both of their websites the dimensions. But it also has to do with when they dropped. Pretty much all of the older drops for Habitat and Alien 8" boards have a 14.25 wheelbase, but the new ones are almost all 14" wheelbase. I think the only 8'' 14 wheelbase for either of them in previous drops is that Suciu topographic series. They each have 1 8" with a 14.25 wheelbase in the most recent drop, but all the rest of the 8s are 14. If you look up the dimensions on each website and match them, the Habitat and Alien ones are the exact same board. Trust me I have a lot (too many) of them.
Ok, will do that. Right now I have a 14.25 wb 8“ AWS decks here that I will skate soon.
Do you prefer the 14 or 14.25 wb ones?
You think go good with low ventures?
I haven't skated one from the new drop yet since it just recently came out and I am already sitting on 7 or 8 unskated boards, but I did just skate an 8" Girl board with a 14" wheelbase. I haven't honestly noticed much of a difference between 14.25 and 14 though. Just set up a Habitat 8" 14.25 WB that I'll skate tomorrow so we'll see though. But really the difference at least to me seems negligible. I skated exclusively Venture lo 5.2 for about the last 10 years, and skated A LOT of these boards on them. It's a great fit I loved it. But I did recently switch to the Royal ultralights and I honestly like those better though. The Ventures are very stable but the turn is ...well not great. The Royals turn extremely well but are still stable and snap right back into place. It's like a whole new world I didn't know existed. I got off topic but yeah venture lo will be great with that board. If you don't know whether to get 14.25 or 14 you can get one of the old drop alien 8" 14.25 WB on Tactics for like $44 right now. They're BBS.
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Just realized that habitat and AWS don’t have the exact same dimensions. Wheelbase on 8“ decks is different and the length minimal shorter in habitat decks.
Even some 8“alien decks have 14“ wb and some 14.25.
I hate it.
Edit: ah damn; habitat 8“ has different dimensions sometimes also
You can look up on both of their websites the dimensions. But it also has to do with when they dropped. Pretty much all of the older drops for Habitat and Alien 8" boards have a 14.25 wheelbase, but the new ones are almost all 14" wheelbase. I think the only 8'' 14 wheelbase for either of them in previous drops is that Suciu topographic series. They each have 1 8" with a 14.25 wheelbase in the most recent drop, but all the rest of the 8s are 14. If you look up the dimensions on each website and match them, the Habitat and Alien ones are the exact same board. Trust me I have a lot (too many) of them.
Ok, will do that. Right now I have a 14.25 wb 8“ AWS decks here that I will skate soon.
Do you prefer the 14 or 14.25 wb ones?
You think go good with low ventures?
I haven't skated one from the new drop yet since it just recently came out and I am already sitting on 7 or 8 unskated boards, but I did just skate an 8" Girl board with a 14" wheelbase. I haven't honestly noticed much of a difference between 14.25 and 14 though. Just set up a Habitat 8" 14.25 WB that I'll skate tomorrow so we'll see though. But really the difference at least to me seems negligible. I skated exclusively Venture lo 5.2 for about the last 10 years, and skated A LOT of these boards on them. It's a great fit I loved it. But I did recently switch to the Royal ultralights and I honestly like those better though. The Ventures are very stable but the turn is ...well not great. The Royals turn extremely well but are still stable and snap right back into place. It's like a whole new world I didn't know existed. I got off topic but yeah venture lo will be great with that board. If you don't know whether to get 14.25 or 14 you can get one of the old drop alien 8" 14.25 WB on Tactics for like $44 right now. They're BBS.
Thanks, I have a visitor deck with 14.25 wheelbase and just ordered a cheap habitat deck with 14.00 wb. Let’s see
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I have the urge to buy a Visitor or Missing Link deck in 8.5. I’ve just always loved AWS, even when I didn’t skate. There’s just something amusing about their graphics/vibe.
Does either of those decks use BBS wood?
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I have the urge to buy a Visitor or Missing Link deck in 8.5. I’ve just always loved AWS, even when I didn’t skate. There’s just something amusing about their graphics/vibe.
Does either of those decks use BBS wood?
I think the Visitor decks are from a few seasons ago so they should still BBS, not sure if the Missing Link graphics were recently restocked (China / DSM) or older (BBS). If you can check them out at a shop that would be best, if they are missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker then I'd assume DSM.
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I have the urge to buy a Visitor or Missing Link deck in 8.5. I’ve just always loved AWS, even when I didn’t skate. There’s just something amusing about their graphics/vibe.
Does either of those decks use BBS wood?
I think the Visitor decks are from a few seasons ago so they should still BBS, not sure if the Missing Link graphics were recently restocked (China / DSM) or older (BBS). If you can check them out at a shop that would be best, if they are missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker then I'd assume DSM.
I've had the believe (aka visitor) 8.75 many times and its always been BBS. Have one set up right now. Im very curious if the current Believe egg is China or BBS (or PS Stix) but that isn't clear to me from the graphics. I suspect any "visitor" ordinary popsicle is BBS at least the ones I see on the website currently.
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I have the urge to buy a Visitor or Missing Link deck in 8.5. I’ve just always loved AWS, even when I didn’t skate. There’s just something amusing about their graphics/vibe.
Does either of those decks use BBS wood?
I think the Visitor decks are from a few seasons ago so they should still BBS, not sure if the Missing Link graphics were recently restocked (China / DSM) or older (BBS). If you can check them out at a shop that would be best, if they are missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker then I'd assume DSM.
I've had the believe (aka visitor) 8.75 many times and its always been BBS. Have one set up right now. Im very curious if the current Believe egg is China or BBS (or PS Stix) but that isn't clear to me from the graphics. I suspect any "visitor" ordinary popsicle is BBS at least the ones I see on the website currently.
I have the same 8.75 and some 8.5s and all BBS for as long as I can remember (after changing from PS Stix many years ago now), but with so many things changing more recently or even certain wood for certain parts of the world, who knows now.
If in doubt, message or call the shop and ask if you can't see it in person, just to make sure. Even if they don't know where it comes from, as others have said, just ask about the warning sticker or other markings on it.
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I have the urge to buy a Visitor or Missing Link deck in 8.5. I’ve just always loved AWS, even when I didn’t skate. There’s just something amusing about their graphics/vibe.
Does either of those decks use BBS wood?
I think the Visitor decks are from a few seasons ago so they should still BBS, not sure if the Missing Link graphics were recently restocked (China / DSM) or older (BBS). If you can check them out at a shop that would be best, if they are missing the black and white Made in Mexico sticker then I'd assume DSM.
I've had the believe (aka visitor) 8.75 many times and its always been BBS. Have one set up right now. Im very curious if the current Believe egg is China or BBS (or PS Stix) but that isn't clear to me from the graphics. I suspect any "visitor" ordinary popsicle is BBS at least the ones I see on the website currently.
I have the same 8.75 and some 8.5s and all BBS for as long as I can remember (after changing from PS Stix many years ago now), but with so many things changing more recently or even certain wood for certain parts of the world, who knows now.
If in doubt, message or call the shop and ask if you can't see it in person, just to make sure. Even if they don't know where it comes from, as others have said, just ask about the warning sticker or other markings on it.
Agreed that makes sense- also crossposting my habitats for sale post!
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125522.0
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AWS has an 8.75 shovel nose out now…wow. Looks rad. Local shop had a few and before I could go look, sold out. I didn’t need another deck anyways.
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AWS has an 8.75 shovel nose out now…wow. Looks rad. Local shop had a few and before I could go look, sold out. I didn’t need another deck anyways.
Saw and agreed. Im stocked on decks for now, but im happy to see both Alien and Habitat trying some different shapes in this drop. Curious when the new metal drop will be available.
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the montano shaped deck is for sure dsm? i got one when it first came out and assumed it was bbs. i can't remember the warning sticker, but, if it said made in china i likely would have noticed. it's gripped and unskated, i'll feel tricked if i unwittingly got a dsm board since aws has been with bbs in 'merica for a bit >:( ;D . my fault for taking it for granite i suppose.
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the montano shaped deck is for sure dsm? i got one when it first came out and assumed it was bbs. but, i can't remember the warning sticker was on it but if it said made in china i would have noticed. it's gripped but unskated, i'll be bummed if i unwittingly got a dsm board. i'll feel tricked as aws has been with bbs in 'merica for a bit >:( ;D . my fault for taking it for granite i suppose.
I thought bbs was Mexico as well.
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so does bbs use two different stickers?
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the montano shaped deck is for sure dsm? i got one when it first came out and assumed it was bbs. but, i can't remember the warning sticker was on it but if it said made in china i would have noticed. it's gripped but i'll be bummed if i unwittingly got a dsm board. i'll feel tricked as aws has been with bbs in 'merica for a bit >:( ;D . my fault for taking it for granite i suppose.
bbs is for sure mexico, by "in 'merica" i meant bbs for pro boards sold in US. it seems aws may use other woodshops outside north america.
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the montano shaped deck is for sure dsm? i got one when it first came out and assumed it was bbs. but, i can't remember the warning sticker was on it but if it said made in china i would have noticed. it's gripped but i'll be bummed if i unwittingly got a dsm board. i'll feel tricked as aws has been with bbs in 'merica for a bit >:( ;D . my fault for taking it for granite i suppose.
bbs is for sure mexico, by "in 'merica" i meant bbs for pro boards sold in US. it seems aws may use other woodshops outside north america.
Yes BBS only has the one woodshop in Mexico, but some brands list the boards as "Made in USA" anyway, even though they are not.
Re AWS / Habitat boards from China, yes people have said some specific boards are made in China, or more so boards to EU or Asia might be from a distributor that gets wood from China, not through AWS in USA via Mexico. It does get a bit confusing, but some people have had a bit more info they have added to the Woodshop thread in the last page or two.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0
so does bbs use two different stickers?
Yes there are at least the two stickers, mainly either the black / white or the red / white with about the same font, but I have seen another one with a different font on some brand boards - just can't remember which brand now but I thought that was interesting.
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Are 8“ GX decks similar to 8“ AWS or are they a lot different?
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Are 8“ GX decks similar to 8“ AWS or are they a lot different?
I've only had one GX 8 inch so def. not an expert, but at least for me on a PS GX1000 was a bit more flex like there typically is, and then also more taper-- so the typical kind of bbs versus PS stix difference.
The main similarity is the full nose, but the GX1000 was more shovely on the nose (at least the one I had) versus the Alien spoon type shape. That said the full nose did make it feel somewhat similar. Not sure what the wheelbase was but im guessing about the same as the Alien as well.
For me, the taper and flexiness didnt really work, but I know some people like taper. Full disclosure I got mine on parade on sale for 40 bucks so who knows how old it was.
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I think the BBS ones would be way closer to the Alien shapes. Someone in the GX1000 thread compared PS and BBS with pics, and the BBS was way more square.
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Now the new alien trasher 8.0 again has different measurements. Why are they doing this??!!
Won’t buy it anyway. 90 euros for a deck is just not it.
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Anyone get from the latest Habitat/Alien season? Any know when new Metal decks coming out?
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Does anybody know how often Habitat/AWS change their shapes? I just started skating the 8.4 Mercy shape and it feels perfect. However, there was only one deck in this shape in the current Habitat drop (the Marius Syvanen one I have right now) and two for AWS. I would love to stick to this shape but wasn't sure if they'd keep making it? I saw another Syvanen deck from one of the last drops that had another shape (I think it was a 8.25).
For what it's worth, the deck I got in Europe had the Made in Mexico sticker on it!
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I believe they keep good sellers around as team decks and periodic name decks so buy the ones you like. But it isn't constantly changing. For example I almost always have an 8.75 believe set up and once in a while they run out but they always put more out. If you can find the shape you like in generic habitat or alien team decks that's another way to find it (Usually towards the end on their websites from the prior drops). That said I think the 8.4 hasn't made it to the team deck rotation yet so maybe a crap shoot at this point based on trends, but feels like Habitat and Alien sizing up in general (in particular habitat versus last few drops) so seems logical they'd have a team deck at that size.
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They keep their most popular shapes (8.0 / 8.125 / 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5 / 8.75) pretty consistent, except for the 8.25 and 8.4 which appear specific to the rider (8.25 AG - Austyn Gillette, 8.4 Mercy - Marius).
They list the shape and dimensions on their website which is really helpful. The 8.4 looks like a 1 off shape, Alien Workshop has a couple of 8.4 shapes that use the same 8.4 Mercy mold, so I'd hunt those down if you really liked that shape.
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/marius-syvanen-which-way-8-4
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/og-lqd-black-8-4
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-spears-flushing-future-tan-8-4
I'm really curious to know if they measured the 32.75 flat on the board or tip to tip, 32.75 is really long for anything under 8.5.
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Thank you for the insight! Will probably stock up on some of the 8.4 decks then. Personally not a massive fan of the artworks, but the shape feels really good right now.
I'm really curious to know if they measured the 32.75 flat on the board or tip to tip, 32.75 is really long for anything under 8.5.
I just measured mine and it is 32.75 flat on the board and something like 32.4 tip to tip. I really like the longer kicks compared to other full shape decks (thanks again for the input on this in my previous thread!).
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Has anyone gotten an 8.75 or 9 habitat or alien egg? How does it skate compared to the regular 8.75? Skateable in bowls or really curb egg? The metal "eggs" look a little more transition oriented but maybe my imagination as I haven't been able to seen any of these in "real life" yet.
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Thank you for the insight! Will probably stock up on some of the 8.4 decks then. Personally not a massive fan of the artworks, but the shape feels really good right now.
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I'm really curious to know if they measured the 32.75 flat on the board or tip to tip, 32.75 is really long for anything under 8.5.
I just measured mine and it is 32.75 flat on the board and something like 32.4 tip to tip. I really like the longer kicks compared to other full shape decks (thanks again for the input on this in my previous thread!).
Ugh I hate when they aren't consistent with length measurements, understandable for Austyn Gillette's shape since they use PS Stix but it would help if they listed them accurately or at least said whether it was taken tip to tip or flat across.