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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:22 AM

Title: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:22 AM

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CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 - 2023 - 2024 +

Last updated as of 1st March 2024


Main thread from 2021

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116070.0



I am happy to keep this list as current and up to date as possible, so the first post on the first page can have the most current information with regard to which woodshop brands get their boards from.

Anything not on this list or changes that need to be made, please add info to this thread, so I can correct or add it to the list.


Previous woodshop threads here for historical reference:

2017  https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95042.0

2018  https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97940.0

2019  https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103057.0

2020  https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108595.0

2021  https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115427.0



For 2022:

This is the current woodshop list with Brand in alphabetical order, then by Woodshop in the second post as it became too long and went over the limit of what could be included in one post.

Note:  For brands with multiple suppliers with a * after their name, any that have changed should have the older one with -2020 and the new one with 2021+ or something similar, which should make it easier to know which is the current supplier.  Also for some continents / countries who have different suppliers, they will be shown with (EU) after the brand name.



Brand (Country) ....  Woodshop

         
101 (Heritage)   ……….   ……….   DSM
151   ……….   ……….   BBS
3Block   ……….   ……….   Clutch
4 Skateboard Co (AU)   ……….   ……….   DSM
5boro   ……….   ……….   South Central
8five2 (HK)   ……….   ……….   DSM
917* 2021+    ……….   ……….   BBS
917* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Adored   ……….   ……….   BBS
Afternoon Skateboards   ……….   ……….   South Central
Alien Workshop* 2018+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alien Workshop* -2018   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Alien Workshop* (EU)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Alltimers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Alltimers*   ……….   ……….   Clutch 2023
Almost   ……….   ……….   DSM
Alva (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
American Nomad* 2024  ……….   ……….   PS Stix
American Nomad* -2023   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Anno Domini   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Antihero / Anti hero*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Antihero / Anti hero*   ……….   ……….   China
Antiz (EU)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
April   ……….   ……….   BBS
Assault   ……….   ……….   Watson
Atlantic Drift   ……….   ……….   BBS
ATM* 2021+   ……….   ……….   BBS
ATM* -2020   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Bacon   ……….   ……….   South Central
Baker   ……….   ……….   BBS
Ballroom (EU)   ……….   ……….   EGAL (EU)
Beer City   ……….   ……….   Regulator
Birch   ……….   ……….   Control
Birdhouse*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Birdhouse* 2022 Some   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Blackout   ……….   ……….   Prime
Black Label   ……….   ……….   BBS
Black Label (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blast* (UK) -2022   ……….   ……….   Gnosis
Blast* (UK) 2022+   ……….   ……….   Quarter Dist
Blind   ……….   ……….   DSM
Blockhead   ……….   ……….   Watson
Blockhead (specials) 2022   ……….   ……….   Would Shop
Blood Wizard* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Blood Wizard* -2020   ……….   ……….   PGI
Blue   ……….   ……….   Prime
BLVD* 2020+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
BLVD* -2020   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Brainchild   ……….   ……….   BBS
Brand-X Brand X   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Brujaria   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Bryte   ……….   ……….   Prime
Business & Company   ……….   ……….   BBS
Buzzbomb   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Carpet Co.   ……….   ……….   BBS
Cash Only   ……….   ……….   BBS
Castle   ……….   ……….   Prime
Chems*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Chems* Twin shape   ……….   ……….   Drifter
Chico Stix* 2023   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Chico Stix* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Chocolate   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Circle - A   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Cleaver* 2023   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Cleaver* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Cleaver* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Cliche   ……….   ……….   DSM
Clown* (UK) -2022   ……….   ……….   Gnosis
Clown* (UK) 2022+   ……….   ……….   Mind Dist
Clubhouse   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Cockfight   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Coda* 2023   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Coda* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Coda* -2020   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Colours Collectiv   ……….   ……….   DSM
Consolidated   ……….   ……….   PGI
Creature*   ……….   ……….   DSM
Creature* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Excel
Cruzade   ……….   ……….   HLC
D.O.A. DOA   ……….   ……….   South Central
Darkroom   ……….   ……….   BBS
Darkroom 2021 Some   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Darkstar   ……….   ……….   DSM
Dead-End   ……….   ……….   Prime
Death   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Deathwish   ……….   ……….   BBS
Dert   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
DGK* Mostly   ……….   ……….   BBS
DGK* 2021 Some   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Dieta   ……….   ……….   South Central
Disorder*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Disorder*   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
DNA   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Dogtown / Dog Town* 2022+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Dogtown / Dog Town* 2022+   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Dogtown* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Doom Sayers* 2021+   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Doom Sayers* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Element* 2022 Some   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Element* 2018+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Element* (until mid 2018)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Element* (EU)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Elenex   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Embassy   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Enjoi   ……….   ……….   DSM
Es La Boom   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Evisen   ……….   ……….   DSM
F.S.C. FSC (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fancy Lad   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fantasy   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Finesse   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fixer   ……….   ……….   Prime
Flip* 2023   ……….   ……….   HLC
Flip* -2020 (US)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Flip* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Flip (Specials)   ……….   ……….   Prime
Folklore (AU)   ……….   ……….   Excel
Folklore Project -2019   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Fortress*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Fortress* 2021   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Foundation* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Foundation* (pro models)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Foundation*   ……….   ……….   Watson
Foundation* (2020)   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Frog   ……….   ……….   BBS
Frog (Specials) 2021   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Fucking Awesome* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Fucking Awesome* til 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
FUCT   ……….   ……….   DSM
G&S (specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
GBAx   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Gentlemen (EU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Girl*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Girl* 2021 (some boards)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Globe   ……….   ……….   DSM
Glue   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Goodwood   ……….   ……….   Prime
Good Dudes   ……….   ……….   DSM
Grimple Stix (Antihero)   ……….   ……….   BBS
GX1000* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
GX1000* 2022   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
H Street   ……….   ……….   Legend
Habitat* 2018+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Habitat* -2018 (+2022 specials)  ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Habitat* (Europe -2021)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Habitat* (Europe 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Habitat* (Brazil)   ……….   ……….   IBL
Halloween Stickers   ……….   ……….   South Central
Hammers (Greco)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hardbody   ……….   ……….   Popmaster
Heart Supply* 2021   ……….   ……….   DSM
Heart Supply* 2022   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Heartthrobs, The   ……….   ……….   BBS
Heritage   ……….   ……….   South Central
Heritage (101) 2022   ……….   ……….   DSM
Heroin   ……….   ……….   BBS
Highwater   ……….   ……….   South Central
Hockey* 2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hockey* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Hoddle   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hook-Ups/JK Industries   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2023   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Hotel Blue   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Housewife   ……….   ……….   BBS
Huf* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Huf* 2022  ……….   ……….   BBS
Hux   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Imperfects ……….   ……….   Watson
Into the Wild   ……….   ……….   DSM
Isle* (US)    ……….   ……….   BBS
Isle* (EU)    ……….   ……….   HLC
Jacuzzi Unlimited   ……….   ……….   DSM
Japan National* (AU)    ……….   ……….   BBS
Japan National* (AU)    ……….   ……….   Clutch
Jart   ……….   ……….   HLC
Junkadelic   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
King* 2023   ……….   ……….   BBS
King*    ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Krooked*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Krooked*   ……….   ……….   China
Lamebrain   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Last Day   ……….   ……….   South Central
Less Than Local   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lewis Cruise   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Lifeblood   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Lifeline LLC   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Limosine   ……….   ……….   BBS
Loser Machine* 2021+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Loser Machine* 2020   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Losers ATL*   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Lost Soul   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Lotus Skateboards   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Love.Sick (Lovesick)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Lovenskate   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Lurkvillie   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Madness   ……….   ……….   DSM
Magenta* 2023    ……….   ……….   BBS
Magenta* 2021+    ……….   ……….   Clutch
Magenta* (Brazil)    ……….   ……….   IBL
Maxallure*   ……….   ……….   PGI
Maxallure* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Maxallure* (some) 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Meltdown   ……….   ……….   Karate
Meow*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Meow* 2021   ……….   ……….   DSM
Merde    ……….   ……….   BBS
Meridian*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Meridian*    ……….   ……….   BBS
Metal Skateboards   ……….   ……….   BBS
Moon Skateboards   ……….   ……….   BBS
Monarch Project   ……….   ……….   DSM
Moonshine   ……….   ……….   Drifter
Morning Bell   ……….   ……….   South Central
Mortuary Skateboards   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Mosaic   ……….   ……….   HLC
Motif Brand, The   ……….   ……….   South Central
Mystery   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Natural Koncept   ……….   ……….   PGI
Neighborhood   ……….   ……….   Clutch
New Deal* Reimagined 2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
New Deal* Reissues 2021+   ……….   ……….   DSM
Nomad Skateboards*   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Nomad Skateboards*   ……….   ……….   DSM
Nonconform   ……….   ……….   Karate
Nonexistent   ……….   ……….   BBS
Northern Co.*   ……….   ……….   South Central
Northern Co.* 2018+   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Numbers*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Nova World Order   ……….   ……….   BBS
Novo   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
OdessaSexCult   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Olive (CA)   ……….   ……….   OSM
Open Skateboards   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Opera   ……….   ……….   DSM
Overland   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Paisley   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Palace   ……….   ……….   DSM
Pass-Port   ……….   ……….   BBS
Paterson   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Permanent Vacation   ……….   ……….   BBS
Picture Show* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Pizza* 2022   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Pizza* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B (Worldwide) 2022   ……….   ……….   HLC
Plan B* (USA) -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Plan B* (Americas) -2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Plan B* (Europe) -2021   ……….   ……….   HLC
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Platipus*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Play   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Player   ……….   ……….   HLC
Pocket Pistols   ……….   ……….   Prime
Poetic Collective* 2023   ……….   ……….   Quarter Dist
Poetic Collective* 2022   ……….   ……….   Control
Polar   ……….   ……….   BBS
Politic   ……….   ……….   South Central
Poolroom (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
POP Trading Co   ……….   ……….   DSM
Powell   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Powell Peralta   ……….   ……….   Skate One
Premium   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Primitive* (Euro 2020+)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
Primitive* (US 2021)   ……….   ……….   USA (unknown) / Pennswood
Primitive* (US 2022)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Prisma   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Program   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Project Asteroid   ……….   ……….   Popmaster
Pure   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Pylon (CA)   ……….   ……….   OSM
Quasi* 2022+   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Quasi* 2022+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Rassvet Paccbet* 2023   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Rassvet Paccbet* 2022   ……….   ……….   HLC
Rave (EU)   ……….   ……….   Control
Rave (Brazil)   ……….   ……….   IBL
Raw Dog   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Real*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Real*   ……….   ……….   China
Revive* 2022   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Revive* -2021  ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
RipNDip* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
RipNDip* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
RipNDip* 2022   ……….   ……….   USA (Unknown)
Robotron   ……….   ……….   HLC
Roger* 2023   ……….   ……….   HLC
Roger* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Roger* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Rosaline (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Saltrags   ……….   ……….   DSM
Santa Cruz*   ……….   ……….   DSM
Santa Cruz* 2021   ……….   ……….   Excel
Santa Monica Airlines SMA (Specials)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Satori (Wood)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Sci Fi Fantasy   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Scram* (limited run)   ……….   ……….   Prime
Scram* (special edition)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Scum Co.* 2024   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Scum Co.* 2024   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Scum Co.* 2023   ……….   ……….   Control
Scum Co.* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Shake Junt (Baker)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Schnar Skates   ……….   ……….   Wouldshop
Shipyard Skates   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Shorty's* -2020   ……….   ……….   Prime
Shortys* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Sk8Mafia* 2023   ……….   ……….   HLC
Sk8Mafia* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Skate Mental* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Skate Mental* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Skate Mental*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Skate Season   ……….   ……….   Prime
Skateboard Café   ……….   ……….   HLC
Skull Skates   ……….   ……….   Control
Slave $lave   ……….   ……….   BBS
Slouch   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Snack   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Sour   ……….   ……….   HLC
SOVRN* (Europe)   ……….   ……….   HLC
Space Program   ……….   ……….   BBS
Spectrum   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Spinifex (AU)* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Spinifex (AU)* 2022   ……….   ……….   Unknown
Square Up   ……….   ……….   BBS
Stereo (re-issue)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Stereo*   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Stereo*   ……….   ……….   Prime
Sticks & Stones   ……….   ……….   South Central
Strangelove   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (mostly)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Street Plant* (some)   ……….   ……….   South Central
Studio   ……….   ……….   Control
Super 8   ……….   ……….   South Central
Superior   ……….   ……….   DSM
Supreme*2020+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Swan Common   ……….   ……….   Popmaster
Swim Skateboards* 2023   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Swim Skateboards* 2023   ……….   ……….   Unknown (Ohio, USA)
Techne   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Techno & Co (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terminal Four (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Terror of Planet X * 2023 TOPX   ……….   ……….   BBS
Terror of Planet X * 2021 TOPX   ……….   ……….   Control
Terror of Planet X* -2018   ……….   ……….   Quincy
Thames MMXX (UK)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Thank You* 2022   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   DSM
Thank You* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
The Heart Supply* 2021   ……….   ……….   DSM
The Heart Supply* 2022   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
The Heartthrobs   ……….   ……….   BBS
The Heated Wheel* 2022    ……….   ……….   BBS
The Heated Wheel* 2022 polarizers    ……….   ……….   PS Stix
The Killing Floor*    ……….   ……….   BBS
The Motif Brand   ……….   ……….   South Central
The National Skateboard Co.   ……….   ……….   HLC
The Space Program   ……….   ……….   BBS
Theories* 2023   ……….   ……….   BBS
Theories* 2023   ……….   ……….   Clutch
There Skateboards*   ……….   ……….   BBS
There Skateboards*   ……….   ……….   China
Thumbs NYC   ……….   ……….   Control
Tightbooth (Japan)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Time (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Tired* 2022   ……….   ……….   BBS
Tired* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Tired*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Tired*   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Toy Machine* 2023 (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Toy Machine* 2023 (USA pro boards)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Toy Machine* 2023 (USA team boards)   ……….   ……….   Watson
Toy Machine* 2023 (USA team boards)   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Toy Machine* 2022   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Toy Machine* (EU/AU 2021)   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Traffic* -2020   ……….   ……….   BBS
Traffic* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Transportation Unit*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Ultra Corp   ……….   ……….   South Central
Uma Landsleds* 2023   ……….   ……….   Unknown (China)
Uma Landsleds* All 2021+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU first run only)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Uma Landsleds* (Brazil)   ……….   ……….   IBL
Unity   ……….   ……….   BBS
Vacation   ……….   ……….   South Central
Vagrant   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Vehicle Skateboards   ……….   ……….   Popmaster
Vicio   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Victoria (HK)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Violet*   ……….   ……….   BBS
Violet*   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Visit   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Vow   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Warco   ……….   ……….   Woodchuck
Wayward (UK)   ……….   ……….   Control
Weird Wood* 2016   ……….   ……….   Pennswood
Weird Wood*   ……….   ……….   South Central
Welcome* 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Welcome* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Western Edition   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Whisper   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Wienerdog   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Witchcraft   ……….   ……….   BBS
WKND   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Wool   ……….   ……….   Anno Domini
Worble *   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Worble * 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
World Industries* 2022   ……….   ……….   Control
World Industries* (specials)   ……….   ……….   Prime
Yardsale (UK)   ……….   ……….   BBS
Yes Fam (UK)   ……….   ……….   Control
Zero* US 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Zero* 2020   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Zero* (EU/Asia -2020)   ……….   ……….   DSM
Zero* (EU/Asia 2021)   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong
Zoo York* -2020   ……….   ……….   Chapman
Zoo York* (EU) 2021   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)
   

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:33 AM

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CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 - 2023 - 2024 +

Last updated as of 1st March 2024


List by woodshop, which should match up to the first list, but occasionally some things haven't been updated or are missed.


*asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more woodshops (also different countries) and years active


BBS(bareback/generator):
151
917* 2021
Adored
Alien Workshop*
Alltimers*
Antihero*
April
ATM*
Atlantic Drift
Baker
Birdhouse*
Black Label
Brainchild
Business & Company
Carpet Co.
Cash Only
Chems*
Chico Stix* 2022
Cleaver* 2022
Darkroom
Deathwish
DGK*
Dogtown* 2022
Doom Sayers*
Element* 2018+
Foundation* 2022
Fucking Awesome* 2020+
Frog*
Grimple Stix (Antihero)
GX1000* 2022
Holiday* (AU) -2020
Habitat*
Hammers (Greco)
Heartthrobs, The
Heroin
Hockey* 2020+
Hoddle
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Hopps* 2019-2020, 2022
Housewife
Huf* 2022
Isle* (US)
Japan National* (AU)
King* 2023
Krooked*
Limosine
Loser Machine* 2022
Love.Sick (Lovesick)
Magenta* 2023
Maxallure* (some 2021)
Merde
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)
Metal Skateboards
Moon Skateboards
Nonexistent
Nova World Order
Numbers*
Pass-Port
Permanent Vacation
Polar
Primitive* 2022
Quasi* 2022+
Real*
RipNDip* -2020
Roger* 2022
Satori (wood)
Sci Fi Fantasy
Scram*
Scum Co.* 2022
Shake Junt (Baker)
Sk8Mafia* -2020
Skate Mental* 2022
Slave $lave*
Space Program
Square Up
Supreme* 2020+
Techno & Co (AU)
Terror of Planet X * 2023 TOPX
The Heartthrobs
The Heated Wheel 2022
The Killing Floor*
The Space Program
Theories* -2020, 2023+
There Skateboards*
Tired* 2022
Toy Machine* USA 2023
Traffic* -2020
Uma Landsleds* 2021
Unity
Violet*
Welcome* 2021
Witchcraft
Yardsale (UK)
Zero* 2021


P.S. Stix:
917* -2020
Alien Workshop*
American Nomad* 2024
Braille
Brand-X Brand X
Chico Stix* 2023
Circle - A
Cleaver* 2023
Coda* 2023
Dogtown* 2022
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)
Disorder*
Element* -2018
Fantasy
Freedome*
Frog (Special shapes only) 2020-21
Fucking Awesome* -2020
Flip* -2020 (US)
Foundation* (pro models)
Girl* 2021 (some boards)
Glue
GX1000*
Habitat* (specials 2022)
Hockey* -2020
King*
Lifeblood
Meow*
Mortuary Skateboards
New Deal* Reimagined
Neighborhood*
Numbers*
Paisley
Pizza* -2020 / 2022
Plan B* (USA) -2020
Quasi* 2022+
Rassvet Paccbet* 2023
Saltrags
Scum Co.* 2024
Skate Mental*
Snack
Strangelove
Street Plant* (mostly)
Swim Skateboards* 2023
Techne
Thank You* -2020
The Heated Wheel Polarizers
Tired*
Toy Machine* 2023 (Pro boards)
Transportation Unit*
Vagrant
Violet*
Welcome* (USA) -2020
Western Addition
WKND
Worble*


Clutch / ASF:
3Block
Alltimers* 2023
ATM*
BLVD*
Blood Wizard* 2021+
Brujaria
Cleaver* 2021
Coda* 2021
Doom Sayers* (limited 2020)
Elenex
Embassy
Es La Boom
F.S.C. (AU)
Fancy Lad
Fixer
Flip* 2021+
Fortress*
Freedome*
Gentlemen (EU)
Holiday* (AU) 2021
Hopps* 2021
Hotel Blue
Huf* 2020+
Japan National* (AU)
Lamebrain
Less Than Local
Lewis Cruise
Lifeline LLC
Loser Machine* 2021
Lurkville
Magenta* 2021+
Maxallure* 2021
Meridian*
Mystery
Neighborhood*
Northern Co.* 2018+
Paterson
Picture Show* 2021
Pizza* 2021
Plan B* (Americas) -2021
Platipus
Poolroom (AU)
Prisma
Program
Raw Dog
Revive
RipNDip* 2021
Roger* 2021
Rosaline (AU)
Shortys* 2021
Skate Mental* 2021
Spinifex (AU)* 2021
Stereo
Terminal Four (AU)
Thank You* 2022
Theories* 2023
Time (AU) 2020
Tired* 2021
Toy Machine* 2022
Traffic* 2021
Visit
Vow
Worble* 2021
Zero* 2020


DSM * Dwindle (DSM):
101 (Heritage)
4 Skateboard Co (AU)
8five2 (HK)
Alien Workshop* (EU)
Almost
Blind
Cliche
Colours Collectiv
Creature*
Darkstar
Enjoi
Evisen
FUCT
Globe
Good Dudes
Heart Supply
Heritage (101)
Into the Wild
Jacuzzi Unlimited
Madness
Meow* 2021
Monarch Project
New Deal* Reissues
Nomad Skateboards*
Opera
Palace
Pop Trading Co
Santa Cruz*
Superior
Thames MMXX (UK)
Thank You* 2021
The Heart Supply
Tightbooth (Japan)
Uma Landsleds* (EU/AU - 2021 first run only)
Victoria (HK)
Zero* (EU/Asia) -2020


HLC:
Cruzade
Element* (EU)
Flip* 2022
Habitat* (Europe) -2020
Isle* (EU)
Jart
Mosaic
Plan B* (worldwide) 2021+
Player
Rassvet Paccbet* 2022 (RU)
Robotron
Roger* 2023
Sk8Mafia* 2022
Skateboard Café
Sour
SOVRN* (Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.


Control:
Birch
Poetic Collective* 2022
Rave (EU)
Scum Co.* 2023
Skull Skates
Studio
Terror of Planet X * 2021 TOPX
Thumbs NYC
Wayward (UK)
World Industries 2022
Yes Fam (UK)


Pennswood:
American Nomad* -2023
Buzzbomb
Clubhouse
Cockfight
Coda* -2020
Dert
DNA
Junkadelic
Lost Soul
Lotus Skateboards
Lovenskate (UK)
OdessaSexCult
Open Skateboards
Play
Scum Co.* 2024
Shipyard Skates
Spectrum
Street Plant* (some)
Vicio Skateboards
Weird Wood* 2016


South Central:
5boro
Afternoon Skateboards
Bacon
D.O.A (DOA / Dead on Arrival)
Dieta
Halloween Stickers
Heritage
Highwater
Last Day
Morning Bell
Northern Co.*
Politic
Sticks & Stones
Street Plant* (some)
Super 8
The Motif Brand
Ultra Corp
Vacation
Weird Wood*


Watson:
Alva (specials)
Assault
Black Label* (specials)
Blockhead
Dogtown* (specials)
Foundation*
G&S (specials)
Imperfects
Santa Monica Airlines SMA (Specials)
Scram* (special edition)
Stereo (re-issue)
Toy Machine* team boards 2023
Yeah Dude


Prime:
Blackout
Blue
Bryte
Castle
Dead-End
Fixer
Flip (specials 2021)
Goodwood
Pocket Pistols
Scram* (limited run)
Skate Season
Shorty's* -2020
Stereo*
World Industries* (specials)


Woodchuck:
BLVD*
Death
Finesse
Losers ATL*
Nomad Skateboards*
Novo
Premium
Pure
Revive
Slouch
Warco


Drifter:
Atlantic
Chems* Twin Shape
Dilemma
Dirty
Lunchbreak
Lurking Class
Moonshine
Thumbs NYC


Gnosis (closed 2022):
Blast (UK)
Clown (UK)


Quarter Dist:
Blast Skates* 2023
Poetic Collective* 2023


Skate One:
Powell Peralta
Powell


Select Skate:
Elephant Brand
Hosoi
Magic
Schmitt Stix
Shuvit
Vision
Willys Workshop


Karate:
Meltdown
Nonconform


Regulator:
Beer City


Legend:
H Street


OSM:
Olive
Pylon


Excel:
Creature* 2021
Folklore (AU)
Santa Cruz* 2021


Anno Domini Manufacturing AD (closed 2022):
Anno Domini
Fortress*
GBAx
Hux
Overland
Whisper
Wienerdog
Wool


IBL (Brazil):
Habitat* (Brazil)
Magenta* (Brazil)
Rave* (Brazil)
Uma Landsleds* (Brazil)


Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate*
Foundation*
Girl*
Skate Mental*
Tired*
Toy Machine*
Zero* (AU 2021)


PGI (from China):
ATM* 2018
Blood Wizard* -2020
Consolidated
Maxallure
Natural Koncept


China (unknown):
Antihero* 2024 (some)
Antiz (EU)
Birdhouse* 2022
BDSkateco
Disorder*
Finesse
Krooked* 2024 (some)
Preduce (TH)
Real* 2024 (some)
Roller Horror
Santai (MY)
There Skateboards* 2024 (some)
Uma Landsleds* 2023

Birdhouse* (2022 some)
DGK* (2021 some)
Element* (2022 some)
Foundation* (2020)
Primitive* (2020+)
Toy Machine* (2020)
Zero* AU / Euro (2021)
Zoo York (EU) 2021

Alien Workshop* (price point boards?)
Element* (price point boards?)
Plan B* (price point boards?)
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)


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Chapman (not currently manufacturing decks, but said to be using Clutch wood):
Adult Inc -2020
Supreme* -2020
Zoo York - 2020


Quincy (closed 2019):
Folklore Project
Lurkville
Space Program
Terror of Planet X* -2018 TOPX


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Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:45 AM

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Last updated as of 26th March 2024


Current Woodshop Directory third post woodshop information

This can stand as a separate list to the main brand list under each woodshop.

If there are any, big or small around, please let me know and I can add them to this list as well.


BBS / Generator (est 1996)
Mexico
http://bbsmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/bbsmfg/
https://www.instagram.com/generatorskateboardistribution/


PS Stix - Paul Schmitt (est 1987)
Mexico
www.psstix.com
https://www.instagram.com/PSstix/


Clutch / ASF (est 2004)
Mexico
https://www.clutchdistribution.com/popsicle.html
https://www.instagram.com/clutchdistribution/
https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/



DSM / Dwindle - Chop chop wood shop (est 2002)
China
https://dwindle.com/
https://www.instagram.com/dwindledistribution/


HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/


Pennswood (est 1996)
USA
http://pennswoodmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/pennswood/


South Central (est 1992)
USA
http://www.skateboardmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/southcentralwoodshop/


Watson Laminates (est 1975)
USA
http://watsonlaminates.com/
https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/


Prime (est 1968)
USA
https://www.primewood.la/
https://www.instagram.com/primewood.la/


Empire Skateboard MFG
USA
http://empireskatemfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/empireskateboardmfg/


Control (est 1995)
Canada
http://www.controlmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/controlmfg/


Woodchuck (est 1996)
Canada
https://woodchucklaminates.com/
https://www.instagram.com/woodchucklaminates/


OSM
Canada
http://www.osm-inc.ca/
https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/



Factory13 (est 1999)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/factory13skateboards/


Legend (est 1994)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/legend_skateboards/


Drifter (est 1999)
USA
http://www.drifterskate.com/
https://www.instagram.com/drifterskateboardmfg/


Project Skateboards (est 2003)
South Africa
http://projectskateboards.co.za/
https://www.instagram.com/projectskateboards/


Custom Skateboards (est 1999)
USA
https://www.customskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/customskateboard/


Anno Domini (est 2020, closed 2022)
USA
https://www.adskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/adskateboards


Madrid Skateboard Factory (est 1976)
USA
https://www.madridskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/madridskateboards/


Sk8 Factory (est 2001)
USA
https://sk8factory.com/


Carver & Stone Limited LLC.
USA
www.carverandstone.com
https://www.instagram.com/carverandstone/


Quincy (2012 - 2019, now 2021+ again)
USA
https://www.instagram.com/quincymfg/
(CLOSED 2019, reopened again 2021)


Chapman (est 1991)
USA
http://www.chapmanskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/chapmanskateboards/
(No longer making boards / using Clutch wood)


Gnosis (est 2018, closed 2022)
UK
https://www.gnosismfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/gnosismfg/


A Third Foot (closed)
UK
https://www.instagram.com/athirdfootskateboards/


Cape Town Skates (est 2018)
UK
https://www.instagram.com/capetownskates/


Karate Wood Chop (est 2020)
Netherlands
https://www.karatewoodchop.com
https://www.instagram.com/karatewoodchop/


Skate One (est 1976)
USA*
Now with factories in China and production in Mexico
https://www.skateone.com/
https://www.instagram.com/skateonecorp/


Select Skate (est 1976)
USA
http://www.selectsk8.com/
https://www.instagram.com/selectdistribution/


IBL Skateboards
Brazil
https://www.instagram.com/iblskateboards/


Vital Skateboards
USA
https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/vitalusaskateboards/


WouldshopSkates
USA
https://www.instagram.com/wouldshopskates/


Popmaster Innovation
USA
https://www.instagram.com/popmasterinnovation/


Cousineau Wood Products
USA
https://www.cwp-usa.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cwpusa/


AZ LAminates
USA
https://www.instagram.com/az.laminates/


Zealdor Skateboard Mfg
Ohio, USA
https://www.instagram.com/zealdor


Amarelo Skateboards
South America
https://www.instagram.com/amareloskates/


Ecological Skateboard-Distribution (est 2015)
Germany
http://egal-skateboards.de/woodshop/
https://www.instagram.com/esb_woodshop/


Nibiru Skateboards Workshop
Poland
nibiru-skateboards.com
https://www.instagram.com/nibiruskateboards/


Locals Skateboards Manufacture
Poland
sklep.localsskateboards.com
https://www.instagram.com/locals_skateboards_mfg/


INCLU Skateboards
Germany
https://www.pfennigparade.de/
https://www.instagram.com/inclu_skateboards/


CRS Skateboard Factory
Hungary
http://www.sk8boardfactory.com/


Cirus
Hungary
http://cirus.hu/main


BerlinBoardsBrewery
Germany
https://bbb.manifactu.re/
https://www.instagram.com/berlinboardsbrewery/


OMNI
Australia
https://www.omnisk8.com.au/
https://www.instagram.com/omni_boards/


DPRESSD
Australia
https://www.instagram.com/dpressd_skateboards/


Skatewood
EU
https://www.instagram.com/skatewood.eu/


2Hex
China
https://www.instagram.com/2hexskateboardfactory/
https://www.2hex.com/


BOOM BOOM TECH (BBT) SKATEBOARDS
Malaysia
http://bbtskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/boomboomtech/


Huizhou Excel (est 2004)
China
https://matchory.com/supplier/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods


Zhongshan Jeeping Wooden Industrial  (est 2000)
China
https://matchory.com/supplier/zhongshan-jeeping-wooden-industrial


Dailan Huahong (est 2006)
China
https://14946543.en.ec21.com/
www.huahongsports.cn


Woodsen
China
http://www.woodsenskateboard.com/
https://www.instagram.com/woodsen.skateboard.factory/


FYS Board (est 1997)
China
https://www.fysboard.com/


Guandong Xinda (Foxen) Sporting Goods Co (est 2001)
China
http://www.skateboardequipments.com/
https://www.instagram.com/xindaskateboardfactory/


Huizhou Huimeixin (Bubble Skatzz)
China
http://www.bubbleskatzz.com/
https://www.instagram.com/bubbleskatzz/


DEZHOU LUOYI SPORTING GOODS CO., LT
China


ANQING YONGDA SPORTS & LEISURE LTD
China



Manufacturers / Woodshops that DO NOT make their own boards but resell others list:


Chapman (using Clutch wood - confirmed 2021)
USA
http://www.chapmanskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/chapmanskateboards/


Progress Dist / Stelth Mfg
USA
https://www.progressdist.com/
https://www.instagram.com/progress_dist/


Wholesale Skateboard dot com
USA
https://wholesaleskateboard.com/
Also
https://blankdeck.com


American Gear Company
USA
https://www.americangearcompany.com/
https://www.instagram.com/americangearco/


Point Distribution
USA
https://pointdistribution.com/
https://www.instagram.com/pointdistribution/


Whatever Skateboards
USA
https://www.whateverskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/whateverskateboards/


Perfect Skateboard MFG
USA
https://perfectskateboardmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/perfectskateboardmfg_/


RG Woods Co
USA
https://www.instagram.com/rgwoods.co/
No web site yet.


Pgi Enterprises,Inc.
USA
No other information


11:11 Distribution
USA
https://www.1111dist.com/
https://www.instagram.com/1111distribution/


MDCN Distribution
Germany
https://www.mdcn-dist.net/
https://www.instagram.com/mdcndist/


Quarter Distribution
Germany
https://quarterdist.com/
https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/


Artprint Europe
France
https://www.artprinteurope.com
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/artprinteurope/


Mind_Distribution
Austria
www.mind-distribution.com
https://www.instagram.com/mind_distribution/


MSB Distribution
Spain
https://www.msbdistribution.es
https://www.instagram.com/msbdistribution/



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Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:53 AM

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Last updated as of 21st March 2024



The last "woodshop list" post will be an accumulated list of information on which woodshops are used for shop boards.

Given this could change fairly regularly, I will try to also include dates as to when this was listed, so if you are after something and see it is from years ago, chances are it might not be so current.


Shop  (Country)                            Woodshop  (month/year)

303 (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
35th Avenue (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
35th North (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
3rd Lair (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (6/2022)
Almonte Boardshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   AD   (02/2022)
AMPT Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
Atlas Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (06/2022)
ATS (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Black Market (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (12/2021)
Blackhole (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2023)
BLX Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2023)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   China   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (01/2022)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (05/2021)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix   (-2020)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (-2020)
Embark (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (12/2022)
EVO (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Faith Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   South Central   (01/2022)
Garage Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   MADRID   (05/2022)
Geometric (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
KickPush (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (02/2022)
Little Whale (USA)   ……….   ……….   South Central   (12/2023)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (09/2023)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
Menu (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS     (04/2021)
Nine Times (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2021)
No Comply (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (04/2021)
Old Skull (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Pacific Drive (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Pharmacy (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2024)
Prolific Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Radio Skateshop   ……….   ……….   PS Stix   (12-2023)
Sixes and Sevens (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (08/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (06/2021)
Skate Works (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2024)
Slappy's Garage (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (09/2021)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (08/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   Unknown   (02/2023)
Vu Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   South Central   (12/2023)
Zumiez (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (01/2022)


Shopboards



_________ _________ _________ _________ _________


Info with pics of various woodshops markings, so they are all in the one place.

Note this will be changing as brands and woodshops update their information but I will try to copy relevant pics to here in this post so they are all in the one place and people don't have to look through all the previous threads or the 30+ pages of information.

This will take some time, so I hope to have this going within a week.


From April 2021:


I have been compiling some (info and pics) which would make it a whole lot easier for some people to reference and then be able to work out what the boards were, but I think there will still be a lot of others or generic boards with similar stickers on them so people could get confused and not know.

Eg

Clutch - usually (but not always) has a letter and a number stamped into the wood around the front bolt holes, then often the size in a dot sticker often over the stamp, or right beside it.

PS Stix - always has some sort of laser engraving information but mainly has SN# PS 39383837 type of info, which is the identifying info of that particular deck, the warning sticker usually higher up on the nose.

BBS - harder to tell with no sticker (unless it has Generator sticker) but often just a dot imprint around front bolts area and sometimes laser engraving for the specific brand, if not "Built by BBS" and size info, sometimes the warning sticker over the bolts, but usually just above the bolts.  More recently they also have a smaller holographic sticker around the back bolts are with BBS on it.  Warning sticker usually has "Made in Mexico" on it.

Dwindle - laser engraving with serial number, size, brand info under the front bolts area, not between the front bolt holes.

Control - red white maple leaf sticker in between front bolts.

HLC - laser engraving with info on the deck, more often under the front bolts, but usually lower down closer to the back bolts in the middle area.  Sometimes has "Made in Europe" or similar words.

Generic manufacturer in China - usually just the size of the deck either between front bolts, just under it, or from another place, on the top or bottom under the back bolts, usually a bigger font.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:08:21 AM

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BBS / Generator - bigger / wider dot stamp in the middle of the front bolts, often with other laser printing or info on the board and the warning sticker "Made in Mexico" as well as newer boards having a holographic BBS sticker over the back bolts.


https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/


 MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker
Keep an eye out for this sticker. If you board has this sticker, you can be 100% positive BBS built this board using 100% pure hard rock maple. No birch or soft maple allowed!!

(https://bbsmfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/bbssticker-82x82.jpg)



I also noticed on the Uprise post, the sizes and also the BBS hologram stickers which are over the back bolts on top as per the last frame.


(https://i.ibb.co/QPWtxbP/BBS-Hologram-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9ngPD9)



https://www.instagram.com/p/CSAilzApqGq/



This is a Baker board, same as Heroin, Birdhouse and Deathwish, all having the dot in the middle and the size stamp just below that, on the front truck area, which is BBS wood. This one being an 8.475 size deck.


(https://i.ibb.co/FVKThDW/Baker-size-stamp-big.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ry9wgDS)



BBS made UMA deck - I can see the dot in the middle of the text under the "X" in the 8.9 X 32.5

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 07, 2021, 10:09:57 AM

Nice pic of the top of an Uma deck courtesy of Jef Hartsel. Which woodshop is this?  BBS

(https://i.ibb.co/rvLMbKF/Screenshot-20210507-100648.png) (https://ibb.co/rvLMbKF)

Quote from: SHHHH,ITSDONE on May 11, 2021, 07:14:10 PM

Sure thing,

 Let me get my whiz snapper and, VOILA! Smoking Dog, lasered on I think:  (And dot above his hat)

(https://i.ibb.co/5R36fZN/SMOKINDOG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R36fZN)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEYeJHold0o/


Some good looking Darkroom BBS wood, all with tops too

Warning sticker between the front bolts and another size / shape sticker under that - the small red rectangle, sort of the reverse of how Polar BBS boards are done with the size sticker between bolts and the warning sticker under that.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQF_G0Zl2O-/


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0631/7129/products/DB-PAINTER-RED-8.375_grande.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1551/9149/products/polar-skate-co-dane-brady-bistro-dane-1-shape-688372_1024x1024.jpg)


I pulled a close up from another deck I had a picture of, also Killing Floor, BBS wood.


(https://i.ibb.co/zScsHWG/Killing-Floor-Deck-warning-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zhsd1RW)





DLX top stamp, from I to IV as per where the decks are on the press, I being at the top and IV at the bottom.

Click on the image for a really good hi res view.

Quote from: notinternetfamous on January 31, 2022, 08:06:37 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/yFCHJsW/concave-III.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yFCHJsW)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:08:30 AM

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Clutch markings and information

Not always, but Clutch usually has a letter and a number stamp around the front bolts area, then a size sticker is often placed beside or over the stamps, usually a circle with the width number in it, like this one below.

Quote from: Reed Richards on March 20, 2021, 10:52:13 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Qf0vbZs/IMG-7837.jpg)

Quote from: TracersOnlyfans on April 12, 2021, 03:58:42 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/WFwQ7W7/dav.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NpPXf6f)
 (https://imgbb.com/).

Quote from: left knee cap on April 19, 2021, 08:51:46 AM

just got the HUF x Street Fighter boards. not sure on woodshop. all the boards have “7K” etched on the top b

(https://i.ibb.co/1nyy883/ED6-CA7-B7-7-EB6-4354-9-EBA-6-B5-CF471-EFFF.jpg)

Quote from: TheCrimsonShroud on June 04, 2021, 02:43:52 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/KqxQhVt/539-C57-FC-249-B-4-D3-E-997-D-DC76-F69-A0-B4-E.png) (https://ibb.co/C7KX8Vj)

Hate to double post, but SWH got back to me. They get all their blanks from Clutch still. He even linked me their ‘most up to date’ shape guide. Apparently I’m riding the S6, as expected.

Fancy Lad is on Clutch - also looks like different / new size stickers on those boards, so not sure if they are doing that on all their boards, or only some brands, but the big size sticker in black and white makes it pretty clear to see (would usually have the letter / number stamped into the wood under that area too)

As has been said before, it is also interesting to see the slightly more individual stain colours from certain woodshops too, in particular the dark green for Clutch shown here.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQEgQfiJHkl/


From the 2012 listing (old info but it is interesting to see):


(https://i.ibb.co/3vRpQgF/Clutch-Woodshop-shapes-2012-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDK2STs)

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Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:08:38 AM

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PS Stix


PS wood has SN# PS09393 - 0930 on it too, always the PS(five digits, which refer to the batch number) - (four digits, which refer to the individual board number).



Here is the generic PS Stix top to show anyway.



(https://i.ibb.co/5rzZSXK/PS-Stix-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3M8sGj)



Street Plant is on PS Stix - warning sticker above the PS laser etched info


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQB5PtVphQC/



I think Professor Schmitt has alluded to the fact that he can look up any board he has made in previous posts, but confirms it in this one in comments - since mid 2003, as he has it all recorded, but is not willing to give out any information like that.


Edit:  Some PS Stix boards actually have Shape # 21 or whatever number it is on them, from boards I have here too.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQUqedoDoNl/



A few differences in woodshop tops I have found, as per previous Toy Machine boards, here is a PS Stix.


(https://i.ibb.co/G2XD1c2/Toy-Machine-PS-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzgTsJz)


Welcome PS Stix top


(https://i.ibb.co/R6QmP1j/Welcome-PS-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lg9W6MN)

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Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:08:46 AM

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Dwindle (and possibly another woodshop in China that makes boards very much the same)


Santa Cruz / Dwindle tops - two pics as they have different looks / product number lines


(https://i.ibb.co/mNkMBxz/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPgTtr0)

(https://i.ibb.co/0f9ZJ3v/Santa-Cruz-top-2021-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQp6Kyx)


Madness / Dwindle top


(https://i.ibb.co/6rB8g0R/Madness-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YPZXpB7)


Almost / Dwindle top including renewal logo over back truck bolts in second pic


(https://i.ibb.co/MsK5dbc/Almost-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DtmgdN9)
(https://i.ibb.co/6rzw9cT/Almost-top-2021-01a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZG5X4RF)



Another one just tossed in there too - Dwindle regrowth logos, all printed, none burned into the decks.


https://www.instagram.com/p/COSybxTBNj4/


Dwindle wood, but no markings or any other info on the boards themselves, but info provided by the company that they use Dwindle as their source.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdYLCHKZPf/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5V47fl0hS/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:08:54 AM

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HLC

No known markings or stickers at all with any information, other than the board brands on some of the product, but others have laser stamping with board brand and info, often "Made in Europe" or more commonly "Fried in Europe" on Sour decks.

The company does everything there at their location, from looking at this which shows it best.


hlcdistribution
"We are a skateboarding manufacturing factory based in the Basque Country, north region of Spain..."


https://www.instagram.com/p/CNUnC_go892/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNubx_lo4qk/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:09:11 AM

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Pennswood


No markings as far as I know.

Stiff, solid boards, steeper kicks, medium concave.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ERMAAOSwDsth9TuV/s-l1600.jpg)

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on November 23, 2022, 05:57:37 PM

Definitely something new here from Pennswood. Pennsylvania stamp plus deck size.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVCRQH4/4-D4-EBD2-A-F6-A9-4-B9-C-813-C-0-EA090018-B75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FVCRQH4)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:09:19 AM

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Control - Canada

Maple leaf sticker, sometimes red leaf on white background, other times red leaf on black background. 
Possibly a mold / shape / press stamp between front bolts too, usually a single number.

Thanks @rocklobster for this pic:

(https://i.ibb.co/vHVjYN9/Control-Stamp-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f2qxv3J)

Quote from: TwisT on February 28, 2022, 07:59:14 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/HK5pn5a.jpg)

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on April 29, 2021, 02:30:00 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/CY495Cs.jpeg)

Quote from: j....soy..... on June 24, 2021, 01:51:27 PM

Quote from: beatifk on June 24, 2021, 12:55:34 AM

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Can anyone give me a quick review of Control boards?

The "local" shop is now a distro for Studio, but it's local in the sense that it's a 2 hour drive away and I'd rather just order online. Wondering if there's any reason not to try a Studio? The decks are about €10 cheaper than most brands and the graphics aren't offensive so I thought I'd give it a try unless there is a noticeable quality difference.

For reference I usually buy Quasi (PS), FA/Hockey (BBS), or the occasional AH (BBS) in that order of preference.

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Definitely more mellow.  The kicks are abrupt and flat ie not curved, but not steep.  Concave is on the flatter side.  Wood I felt not too bad, not heavy...

Quote from: TwisT on September 02, 2021, 11:26:41 AM

Not that anyone cares but me

MoMA/TheSkateRoom use Control as noted by the Made in Canada stickers they use.
(https://i2.wp.com/flawlesscrowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/KEITH-HARING-SKATEBOARD-DECK-4.jpg)

I'm always checking in in hopes that they'll randomly have a sale, but they never do.

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Prime

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on June 06, 2021, 04:36:12 PM

Like I said, I remember hearing they were BBS but when I looked into getting one of the scram-hain popsicles a while back those were definitely prime. In the image below you'll see the U5 mold and size between the rear truck holes on the top. That may have been a pandemic thing, or they may use someone else for the shaped boards and then run the popsicles at prime. That's really all the intel I have about them though, I had no desire to really investigate further as I wasn't a fan of the only prime deck I've tried.

(https://base-ec2.akamaized.net/images/item/origin/ae2b8a765cb5ed1bafaf59752eb3a8b6.jpg)

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 26, 2022, 01:27:54 AM

Here's the press stamps from the prime deck I just got. All the ones I've had or handled had the alignment divot but only like half had the size/mold stamp. They also have a heritage logo one that they use on reissues.


Front bolts area:

(https://i.imgur.com/AHCWwQH.jpg)


Back bolts area:

(https://i.imgur.com/TIKJiIQ.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:18 AM

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Girl / Chocolate - Dalian Hauhong

Completely different top to any other brand or company or woodshop.



Chocolate / China top


(https://i.ibb.co/SfJthPr/Chocolate-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKm2MXw)


Girl / China top


(https://i.ibb.co/K9cFfLK/Girl-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcNgMPV)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:28 AM

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Made in China (maybe Dalian Hauhong)


Zero boards with no markings or only a tiny nail like tip dot front middle bolt area (also made in China on sticker).


(https://i.ibb.co/zsD6Y2s/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D4TryM4)


(https://i.ibb.co/f0dw0cS/Toy-Machine-etched-top-2021-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XJxRJw4)


(https://i.ibb.co/9qMF0x4/Zero-dotted-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LCGLyTg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:37 AM

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Generic "Made in China" boards




https://www.instagram.com/p/CPs_PV0FCFN/

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 22, 2021, 01:31:15 PM

Anyone saw the newest Ben Degros video about the new blanks in his shop ? He didn't said what woodshop they are coming from, business secret bla bla, but I really dig the 8.25 shape he showed and wondered..
I'm in the EU so no chance to get me some from canada but maybe there's a chance to find one from a brand that uses the same woodshop.
Engraving looks like this
(https://abload.de/img/img_20210522_223951foka3.png)

Quote from: ish_wav on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 PM

What wood shop does CCS use? I ordered a custom, and it has a single dimple between nose bolts. My immediate guess is woodchuck laminates?
https://imgur.com/a/uOPiIFf

Single small "nail like" dots also seem to be on boards that are known to be made in China, but it is a much smaller sharper dot than the big round flatter ones on BBS boards, or some others.



A couple of online reviews show a plain / natural bottom ply and fairly long flat / steep kicks, which could also be different from then to now too.


https://shop.ccs.com/ccs-logo-skateboard-deck-blue

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-4_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/b/l/blueccs-6_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-5_1.1517622394.jpg

https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/l/blueccs-3_1.1517622394.jpg



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQoEaKsF-oB/

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Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:46 AM

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Older BBS video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3VLKzOGD3I



Dwindle woodshop video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkLpl_jnuo

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:56 AM

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I know this has been posted before in other places, but woodshop tours don't get much more in depth than this:


Tour of BBS woodshop


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbNQ1dLKGU



Tour of HLC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL95owgph20



Tour of Drifter Skateboard Manufacturing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSks7-1PIcw




Doing some more research and came across a tour of the PS Stix factory from 2007, so although it is fairly old, it was mentioned that they do FIVE decks at a time here.


https://skateparkoftampa.com/article/785/Paul_Schmitt's_Skateboard_Deck_Factory,_PS_Stix


The comment:

You know the plies of your skateboard deck? Well, this machine is a press that glues the separate plies together. They do five boards at a time, so that's why sometimes you get the same exact board with a little more or little less concave


(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/images/pss3.jpg)



Other places like BBS do FOUR at a time (top the steepest concave and bottom the most mellow concave), while many others (especially in China) are geared up to do ONE at a time, but they have presses that hold about eight to ten decks in each, so each individual deck is identical.



(https://www.fysboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/skateboard-mold.jpg)





Clutch deleted their Instagram a while back, but there are other people and accounts I had been following and had looked up, including ASF and Julio De La Cruz believing they are all related.


https://www.instagram.com/asfmanufacturing/

ASF Manufacturing
Product/Service
High Quality Skateboard Manufacturing.
Premium American Maple.
In house Digital UV Printing.
Largest Shape Selection.
Brands & Distributors Only.
www.asfdistribution.com



https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvgvnNFXCb/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0CqFpB3Jp/



Still more woodshops coming up when I search, this one being Madrid, from about the same time I started crawling...

Madrid Skateboard Factory


Madrid Skateboard Factory🛹
🌴Huntington Beach CA
⚙️#ShapingSkateboarding Since 1976
🎬As Seen in #BackToTheFuture & @StrangerThingsTV📺
Made in USA
👇Shop our factory store
madridskateboards.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/COL2Yaor1nG/




Post for DIY Woodshops and smaller guys out there:

Quote from: TwisT on April 28, 2021, 12:04:18 PM

another backyard wood shop. So sick

https://youtu.be/XwUFCczNLxw

www.tiny.cc/shopmanakskates

All decks are hand glued, pressed, shaped, painted, screen-printed, glossed, and shrinkwrapped one at a time by the Manak family in our backyard in San Jose, Ca. We add extra press time and cure times to make a higher quality, better performing deck. Hand-glued leads to a stiffer, longer-lasting board with everlasting pop. In most cases, our boards will last 3 times longer than a factory-made deck. Low tech, no tech!



https://www.instagram.com/p/CPUijkmFgRX/


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-8b5oDFoRZ/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQLy83MnPyk/


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kIXfalmbe/


https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoVurKj4z_/


https://www.instagram.com/p/BM4pPC-gsgE/


And a bit of fun


https://www.instagram.com/p/BYO6qADg1Km/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:12:05 AM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 15, 2021, 01:43:14 AM

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Perhaps Darkroom is also now Clutch (at least for the new drop)?
I was about to pick up one of the new ones thinking it was BBS (my preference) but seems they are “produced in the USA”. Not saying this is bad, just a change from what I expected. Anyone know for sure? (no shops near me stock so i cant check in person)

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

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The site has always said that and they themselves have posted on IG in the comments about being on generator wood. I would go for it. 90% sure it’s not clutch

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Cool, yeah I think your right, I’m going to pull the trigger. I’m probably overthinking it due to all the chopping and changing of woodshops going on (really thankful for this thread!).

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I do find it a bit funny when some companies have a " ... in USA" be it "Made" or whatever other wording, given that all these big woodshops all produce their boards outside of the USA and bring them back into the USA, sometimes with or without graphics, which then can be put on via heat transfer in a distribution warehouse in the USA.

I guess it is the same as a lot of other companies that have a mixed message about where things come from, not outright lies, but some shops and places like to put things on there that are often not exactly true.

BBS, PS Stix and Clutch are all made in Mexico, Dwindle in China, and very few woodshops still operating in the USA, as per info on the first page, second post.

Anyone else find this statement funny, if indeed BBS do the boards and heat transfers all in house, in Mexico:

"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."


* BBS are my preferred option for wood, so not knocking BBS or Darkroom, just curious more than anything, but also asking for clarification or calling bullshit on their statement.

(https://i.ibb.co/DwRb0RJ/Deck-Made-in-USA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/frxSjxg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:12:13 AM

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Interesting articles and information relating to woodshops:




http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2021/01/07/look-skateboard-drought-2020/



Although outdated now, this is an interesting list for who, what and where in terms of skateboard manufacturing companies and people

https://www.fysboard.com/worldwide-skateboard-manufacturers-list/



This was a curious one with info on the companies that make products from some of the bigger distros and brand names too

https://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies




Anything related to woodshops, decks, brands, which company is on which woodshop, any changes and other info relating to that can also be added here.


To note as well, there are some specific threads also going on which have a lot of good info, some more commonly updated than others, so people might not find them going back up to ten pages in Shoes and Gear Messageboards, so I have included some (but not all) relevant deck info threads here too, the top ten being these ones:


DLX Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0


Polar shapes thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112584.0


Quasi thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108613.0


FA/Hockey Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114906.0


Girl Deck Shapes:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.0


Squarish Shaped Decks:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113235.0


Twin tails thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.0


Egg shaped boards:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.0


WBSWB Movement (Wide Board Short Wheelbase):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115328.0


DIY boards/graphics:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=48527.0


Everything B L A N K s thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113993.0



And of course two other threads which I find always have good pics and info:


The Set-up Thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.0


Big Boards 9"+( I wanna hear big boys talk about their big boards)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.0


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Shops that give accurate / decent descriptions and info for decks:


Maybe the most comprehensive deck info:

https://r-fskate.com/shopbrand/deck/


Another excellent Japanese skate shop that lists all deck details and more.

https://www.californiastreet.net/


Good for shaped decks as they show width over trucks:

https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/


Australian site with all the info:

https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/

Quote from: Xen on January 18, 2022, 09:41:43 AM

https://www.slamcity.com/

Great pics to help with shape choice as well.

SPoT
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/cz.aspx?ID=1

Quote from: christ0v on August 23, 2021, 11:11:49 AM

Go and check

 https://www.freedomskateshop.at

You can find wheelbase and manufacturers country on 95% of the decks. There is even some sale at the moment on selected decks.

Quote from: FuzzGNU on March 02, 2022, 03:29:17 AM

Just a heads up. I just found out SkateDeluxe takes a picture of every deck that shows off the concave, looks like SkateWarehouse too:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en

https://www.skatewarehouse.com

Man, this makes shopping for decks online so much easier. SkateDeluxe even have nose and tail measurements.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:15:26 AM

Creating space on the first page to add in all the information for woodshops, including pics and other stuff, so it will be easier to access and find throughout the first page of this thread.


I imagine it will take a bit of time to transfer most of the stuff I have compiled and other info, apart from the lists I had kept updated in the previous thread, but any additional info or whatever, please add it in here so I can add it to the main page under each main woodshop, or in one of the spare areas.


At least this should be a much better overall thread right from go, as I had been thinking about it from the first one.


Additional posts I thought were relevant I will include here for now as well:



Woodshop discrepancies

I had been thinking about this for a while, but needed to have more than one deck of each, as well as the same or very closely similar dimensions, so on top of that, here are three decks each from PS Stix (left) and BBS (right) all for the same brand (Element) to compare, measure and see what differences, as noted there are.

As per the tops, the PS Stix is 8.375 x 32.25 and the BBS is 8.25 x 32.25 both with 14.25 wheelbase and very similar length nose and tails. The PS Stix is significantly shorter than the BBS overall, mostly in the tail (which is why I stopped riding them) and curiously not being as wide, both being almost the same, even though 8.375 should be wider than 8.25 but the PS Stix also tapers a lot more from the front down to just over 8.125 at the back, with a stubby squared off tail, whereas the BBS keeps the 8.25 width right through the boards with rounder kicks.

The other interesting thing to note, even though both seem to be much the same angle in the tails and overall concave, all the PS Stix wood appear much steeper in the nose, as per the pics, which I could feel when I stood on them too.

PS Stix are more the traditional mold, with the kicks starting with a definite line across the boards and a straight face on the kicks, so they are flatter with no side to side concave, compared to BBS which have the "spoon concave" in the kicks, no definite line across the deck which makes the boards a little more mellow feeling in the area just after the bolts, as well as holding your foot on the board just a little better too, with side to side concave in the same way that the middle of the board does.

I have skated a lot of both PS Stix and BBS boards over the years, so even though my favourite is BBS nowdays, there is nothing wrong with PS Stix as a good woodshop. Like anything, there will always be those who prefer one more so than the other. This is not at all about how the board feels to ride or how long they last either, just about the measurements and concave for now.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7z34oF7_l/




Board dimensions are a funny thing.

Here are four different brands, all from the same woodshop, all of which those companies list different lengths for their 8.5 wide standard shaped decks, but all are actually the exact same size and dimensions overall. Note the wheelbase is listed the same too, at 14.5 for all.

I have also included an older Baker deck beside the newer one (Baker RVCA colab), just for reference, but they are said to be 8.5 x 32, then the Black Label is said to be 8.5 x 32.38, the Element is 8.5 x 32.7 and the Generator (shop brand) deck is listed as 8.5 x 32.5 from their site.

All are actually 8.5 x 32.7 if the tape measure is held against the concave right through, or closer to 32.25 if kept tight from end to end, with a nose at about 7.2 and tail at about 6.7 but that is just rough measurements really.

The dimensions shown on the Element deck are the most accurate, but I know some companies / places prefer to measure straight across, not with the concave, which will always give a different length.

Other decks from different companies, regardless of woodshop, often have inconsistencies, which is why I find it so interesting to have a number of the same boards from various places to measure and compare, all of these being the same, as I have multiples of each.

There are ever so slight differences in concave too, but for the most part, they all are approximately the same, some slightly steeper and some slightly more mellow than others, depending on where they were in the press, being four at a time in this particular woodshop, the top being the steepest down to the fourth deck having the least concave. It can be fairly significant, as per an older post I put up.

The last pic is just an added one with a few other brands which also use the same woodshop, but I didn't have the exact same size boards from those brands to add, even though the Birdhouse and Antihero both are 14.5 wheelbase, they are listed as 8.38 wide and 32.25 long, which come in just under the length of the other ones.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/




Concave in general is an interesting one, especially if you are out there measuring boards with the app for the angle of the kicks, but standing on them is the best way to feel out the concave, which I have done for way too many years, but shall we say that from over a few hundred DLX decks (via a skate shop) I have noted significant differences to other BBS wood - and that was the question, not all woodshops but BBS in particular.

I know there are many other brands / woodshops that have more mellow concave too, just to make that clear.

Back to DLX and Antihero in particular (although all three deck brands use the same wood so have the same options in concave), I only really like to ride the IV boards, or even III when it feels ok, which are significantly more mellow than anything else, including the Baker boards (OG Mellow concave versions) I have, as well as the DGK, and all the other BBS boards that have passed through my hands, too many to count, if we were talking numbers, it would be thousands.  Call me crazy, but almost all of which I have stood on to get a feel for the board too.

Also I don't know what it is but DLX 8.25 decks in general ALL seem to be steeper in concave than others, be it different presses or what, but every number I through to IV have been way steeper than say the 8.38 that I usually ride, which would give the same conclusion to what you found with the grey eagle deck.

Here is an interesting post showing the concave differences from a while back, in particular frames 3 and 4 showing the differences in board concave and angle of kicks, which is quite significant.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CNBo7unFfc4/



On the subject of driving over boards, yes it seems a bit obvious that something has to give structurally and I know some people who have flattened boards too much from doing this, but I have done at least twenty or more myself, all BBS, which has no overall detrimental effect on the deck apart from making it more mellow in the kicks, sometimes doing both ends, other times only doing the tail, but it works and I have never felt any of these boards break or have issues from the process. 

This video below was just the first test on a new board that was too steep, which I was not worried if I broke it or anything, but I have since been parking overnight on most boards as they spring back too quickly from just simply driving over them.  Note the deck before and after, for which I felt almost no difference in the feel of it when I set it back up and skated it, so needed to park on it for way longer.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CFqdpGRBTua/

Quote from: Nap on July 29, 2021, 12:27:34 AM

I meant to say before that Passport decks also seemed like the identical concave (same presses I would imagine) as Magenta, and also on the dark brown wood stains that they are so well known for, so you could seek out one of those.

Isle were on the Generator boards (Blanks from BBS), the difference being medium distributors would get the Generator blanks, then put on the heat transfer graphics of whatever brands they distribute, so would be more likely to change woodshop than some of the brands like Magenta who seem to get the whole deal at the BBS end of things, eg the boards are pressed, graphics put on and everything done, then shipped out from BBS.

This is the sort of thing that mid tier distributors do as well.  Getting the licensed brand graphics and putting them on whatever wood you have.  Not saying this is an issue, so much as it is just part of the skateboard industry that often causes confusion and some issues when people or even the company says what woodshop they use (in the USA), compared to what a mid to small distributor from a different continent uses for the same brand.

An example of this / heat transfer graphics being applied:



https://www.instagram.com/p/CRlYkdhIa28/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 29, 2022, 02:16:48 AM

Just in case anyone is wondering, yes this is going to replace the other thread, but I am not about to lock or shut that down until this one is completely up and running with all relevant info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 03:49:03 AM

Made it through the first ten pages of the 2021 thread but going to have to leave it there for now, but should be back at it again tomorrow to sift through more woodshop info.

Any other info or whatever, please add to this thread now and I will add it into the relevant area on the first page.

Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on January 29, 2022, 08:27:41 AM

Incredible updates to this thread. Thanks for all your hard work.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SaySo on January 29, 2022, 08:32:59 AM

Thanks everyone for the continued dedication, energy, and patience - much appreciated! This is dope!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lou Strux on January 29, 2022, 11:49:40 AM

Brimmo, you’re good as gold for setting up & maintaining these new editions of the wood shop thread.
Top notch stuff from a top man.
Thanks, mate.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on January 29, 2022, 01:14:53 PM

i'm 99% sure crs and cirus are the same thing, cirus is their board brand (like jart is to hlc) and crs is the manufacture

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 07:20:51 PM

Quote from: roba on January 29, 2022, 01:14:53 PM

i'm 99% sure crs and cirus are the same thing, cirus is their board brand (like jart is to hlc) and crs is the manufacture

Yes I think you are right.

I tried looking up more info for them both but there really isn't any out there, or at least none I could see (English only here) with most that easily translates, but I think I just gave up and went on to something else.

I left them both in there, just in case anyway.  It wouldn't be the first time that someone wanted a distinction between two separate business arms, but as per other sites in the USA, I think @TwisT mentioned that Blank boards are also listed as another completely different name, but it comes back to the same place.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on January 29, 2022, 09:19:02 PM

Paterson Skateboards are on Clutch wood. Got the letter + number combo on the top ply.

https://patersonleague.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 30, 2022, 07:13:11 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 07:20:51 PM

Quote from: roba on January 29, 2022, 01:14:53 PM

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i'm 99% sure crs and cirus are the same thing, cirus is their board brand (like jart is to hlc) and crs is the manufacture

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Yes I think you are right.

I tried looking up more info for them both but there really isn't any out there, or at least none I could see (English only here) with most that easily translates, but I think I just gave up and went on to something else.

I left them both in there, just in case anyway.  It wouldn't be the first time that someone wanted a distinction between two separate business arms, but as per other sites in the USA, I think @TwisT mentioned that Blank boards are also listed as another completely different name, but it comes back to the same place.

blankdeck.com - wholesaleskateboard.com
Sk8factory.com - customskateboards.com
Im pretty sure progress dist and perfect skateboards are the same. another party should inspect their IG and confirm

Prime LA is like the parent brand of zumiez pricepoint brand goodwood and black. I've seen goodwood boards with prime stamps, but also on the https://www.skateseason.com list the prime number on their site as contact. Also the product shots on season are on the same wall as some prime product shots.

One the subject of prime https://www.primewood.la/o-e-m uses the language "Take advantage of our Prime quality wood made right here in the U.S.A. , or let us orchestrate production from one of our Prime woodshops overseas." which for me implies means that they outsource some work.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 30, 2022, 08:48:20 PM

Thank you!

There is so much I hadn't added to the list, both brands and woodshops, I am finding, but now up to page 20 from the old thread, so have added a whole lot more info on the first page as well as some info in the posts above.


I knew this was going to take longer than I first imagined, but it should be a pretty good resource once I have pulled out more info from the other threads.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Youoverthere on January 31, 2022, 08:05:52 AM

AD is done. They sent a business card for a lawyer to my homie because they took his cash and couldn’t give him the bloards they agreed on. Less than year. Smh

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: KGB on January 31, 2022, 11:15:38 AM

Maybe I missed it, but what about High Grade Distribution/Satori? If I had to guess I’d say BBS from the shapes and feel. Just have that one dot in the middle of the front truck bolts. And super hyped on the shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 31, 2022, 04:54:06 PM

Quote from: KGB on January 31, 2022, 11:15:38 AM

Maybe I missed it, but what about High Grade Distribution/Satori? If I had to guess I’d say BBS from the shapes and feel. Just have that one dot in the middle of the front truck bolts. And super hyped on the shape.

You are going to have to give me a bit more info on that one.

The old High Grade Dist from way back when with Satori wheels and Creation Skateboards folded and I hadn't really been paying any attention to whoever or whatever has taken over in that department, given the old website is now totally different being for weed and associated products.


I had a quick look for them, couldn't find anything so thought it better to just ask as you should have more info, links or anything else, etc.


From 2012 - about ten years ago...



High Grade Distribution (http://www.highgradedistribution.com/)
Creation Skateboards
Satori Wheels
Upful Hardware
Paradox Griptape
Satori Apparel

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: KGB on January 31, 2022, 05:05:24 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/qnw4mqp/C40991-BB-1021-4-BD0-B889-DE0-A8-C872-AF0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qnw4mqp)Hey thanks,
Same people new website, they started making decks again. The decks just have a “high grade distribution” graphic on top. Also they sent out mad stickers like 50 assorted, pretty rad
https://www.satorimovement.com/collections/decks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 31, 2022, 06:57:41 PM

Quote from: KGB on January 31, 2022, 05:05:24 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/qnw4mqp/C40991-BB-1021-4-BD0-B889-DE0-A8-C872-AF0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qnw4mqp)

Hey thanks,
Same people new website, they started making decks again. The decks just have a “high grade distribution” graphic on top. Also they sent out mad stickers like 50 assorted, pretty rad
https://www.satorimovement.com/collections/decks

Yeah that's rad they are doing boards, or good ones at least.

What sizes did you get?

I see there are quite a few from below 8, 8.0 8.1 8.25 8.5 so have all covered.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: KGB on February 01, 2022, 02:35:03 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 31, 2022, 06:57:41 PM

Quote from: KGB on January 31, 2022, 05:05:24 PM

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(https://i.ibb.co/qnw4mqp/C40991-BB-1021-4-BD0-B889-DE0-A8-C872-AF0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qnw4mqp)

Hey thanks,
Same people new website, they started making decks again. The decks just have a “high grade distribution” graphic on top. Also they sent out mad stickers like 50 assorted, pretty rad
https://www.satorimovement.com/collections/decks

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Yeah that's rad they are doing boards, or good ones at least.

What sizes did you get?

I see there are quite a few from below 8, 8.0 8.1 8.25 8.5 so have all covered.

Actually I got a 7.75(green one)with the Bigfoot graphic and a 7.8 (brown one) with the satori elephant. Just started skating smaller setups again. The shapes are pretty full for being smaller, nose and tail aren’t very tapered or too square. They have 14” wheel base also.
(https://i.ibb.co/8Nb3nJw/5-BEBC853-2077-4-F06-BB86-6-C362262-DFE2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Nb3nJw)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 02, 2022, 07:45:02 AM

Quote from: Youoverthere on January 31, 2022, 08:05:52 AM

AD is done. They sent a business card for a lawyer to my homie because they took his cash and couldn’t give him the bloards they agreed on. Less than year. Smh

Website is still up, they mentioned restructuring a few months ago. Grew too fast and took more orders than they could handle?

Edit: Website is empty except for some "pricepoint" decks going for $199.

https://www.adskateboards.com/shop/price-point-decks/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 02, 2022, 08:13:08 PM

Quote from: KGB on February 01, 2022, 02:35:03 AM

Actually I got a 7.75(green one)with the Bigfoot graphic and a 7.8 (brown one) with the satori elephant. Just started skating smaller setups again. The shapes are pretty full for being smaller, nose and tail aren’t very tapered or too square. They have 14” wheel base also.
(https://i.ibb.co/8Nb3nJw/5-BEBC853-2077-4-F06-BB86-6-C362262-DFE2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Nb3nJw)

Is that also a dvd or cd in with one of the boards?

A number of brands used to do that back in the day, but it seems like that hasn't happened for a long time now.

Funny how things change and everything is so much quicker just to get onto their Instagram or something to see the latest clips of whatever.


Good stuff!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 02, 2022, 08:19:48 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 02, 2022, 07:45:02 AM

Quote from: Youoverthere on January 31, 2022, 08:05:52 AM

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AD is done. They sent a business card for a lawyer to my homie because they took his cash and couldn’t give him the bloards they agreed on. Less than year. Smh

[close]

Website is still up, they mentioned restructuring a few months ago. Grew too fast and took more orders than they could handle?

Edit: Website is empty except for some "pricepoint" decks going for $199.

https://www.adskateboards.com/shop/price-point-decks/

That does look weird.

Almost like someone just put up some figures or took over, who didn't know what was what.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Youoverthere on February 03, 2022, 02:52:50 AM

Another reason why religion and skateboarding should never mix. So from what I’ve gathered, AD stands for ammo domini which is latin for “in the year of our lord”. So obviously a Christian based company.
Ritual skateboards from Colorado Springs is a prominent, long standing, local company that uses “evil” imagery. No different than creature or blood wizard graphics. They wanted to get their bloards pressed locally by AD.
Supposedly two of the screeners quit/fired because they were down to print evil graphics, which is against the company’s values. But with less than a year in business, being flooded with orders from every local upstart, and then losing employees. They broke off more than they could chew.
There used to be this indoor skatepark/ church that would let you skate for free if you attended the service. I used to bring my headphones. Anyway the “pastor” that did the services had an ender on a 411vm opener. Allegedly he was smoking dope between preaching to kids and skating. He got called out and lost his park and it’s in much better hands. Basically this dude has been crossed out from the skate scene for several years and AD thought it would be smart to have him involved.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Carter on February 03, 2022, 12:59:03 PM

Correction Square up skateboards is generator wood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: KGB on February 04, 2022, 05:21:18 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 02, 2022, 08:13:08 PM

Quote from: KGB on February 01, 2022, 02:35:03 AM

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Actually I got a 7.75(green one)with the Bigfoot graphic and a 7.8 (brown one) with the satori elephant. Just started skating smaller setups again. The shapes are pretty full for being smaller, nose and tail aren’t very tapered or too square. They have 14” wheel base also.
(https://i.ibb.co/8Nb3nJw/5-BEBC853-2077-4-F06-BB86-6-C362262-DFE2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Nb3nJw)

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Is that also a dvd or cd in with one of the boards?

A number of brands used to do that back in the day, but it seems like that hasn't happened for a long time now.

Funny how things change and everything is so much quicker just to get onto their Instagram or something to see the latest clips of whatever.


Good stuff!

 No CD just a big sticker

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FakieDisaster on February 04, 2022, 09:04:48 PM

are crailtap decks still good now? last time i rode was almost 10 years ago, super stiff wood. thinking of skating one again if not i'll resort to resin-7 decks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 04, 2022, 09:57:45 PM

Quote from: FakieDisaster on February 04, 2022, 09:04:48 PM

are crailtap decks still good now? last time i rode was almost 10 years ago, super stiff wood. thinking of skating one again if not i'll resort to resin-7 decks

Better but still inferior to BBS, PS Stix or DSM IMO, but it's nice they list their dims in detail if you're a stickler for that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 04, 2022, 11:17:33 PM

Just gotta say, thank you @Woodshop for consolidating everything into a single comprehensive thread.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 05, 2022, 12:53:25 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 04, 2022, 11:17:33 PM

Just gotta say, thank you @Woodshop for consolidating everything into a single comprehensive thread.

It keeps be busy and helps me with an outlet to stay sane, so I would say it is a win / win for everyone.

But really, I am just stoked to be able to help people and skateboarding is definitely the one constant that never fails to keep me going, not to mention all the other things to do with skateboarding that have helped me on this rollercoaster ride of life.

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: alraunen on February 05, 2022, 02:01:38 AM

This thread is mind-blowing @Woodshop, thanks for putting everything together. It's really useful for the "Euros" because here shops doesn't care much and there's a lot of brands using different woodshops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 05, 2022, 03:02:34 AM

Quote from: alraunen on February 05, 2022, 02:01:38 AM

This thread is mind-blowing @Woodshop, thanks for putting everything together. It's really useful for the "Euros" because here shops doesn't care much and there's a lot of brands using different woodshops.

It definitely seems that a lot more brands are using "other woodshops" for many of their EU supply, whether or not that is something to do with ease of distribution, or just the fact that Asia is closer to get wood from than Mexico, for many that would otherwise be from one of those places.

I guess it just comes down to anyone and everyone checking the list and posting any changes or anything that they notice too, with regard to whatever boards they are buying or skating.

At least with a significant coverage of Slap users, the list is much more likely to be updated with all the info coming in as well, rather than just what a few people hear or read, especially from here in AU, with so much going on out there in the rest of the world.


* Oh and still not even half way through all the other threads getting info and compiling board pics either, so I really aim to clean up that first page once I have been though those other threads.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 05, 2022, 03:11:12 AM

Woodshop thread index / info:


First full page (all 30 posts) should be all the Woodshop lists, as well as pics and other info (still compiling more info to go in there as well - might take a while).

Second page starts off with a bit more info, links to other board threads and a bit more random stuff that I didn't really think should be on the first page.

Then any and all contributions to the thread after that, which are always welcome, be it something that has changed from what is on the list, anything else not on the list, questions about board brands, or any other woodshop, deck or board related stuff.


Thanks for all of you helping make this thread what it is too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 05, 2022, 05:42:17 AM

Who makes Pocket Pistols? Looks like they are their own woodshop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on February 05, 2022, 07:38:44 AM

Dert Skateboards - Pennswood.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZlUmObsiDw/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on February 05, 2022, 10:55:06 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on February 05, 2022, 05:42:17 AM

Who makes Pocket Pistols? Looks like they are their own woodshop?

Prime

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 06, 2022, 01:59:57 AM

So I don't forget to add this.

I am wondering if they are just local to Brazil or distribute them elsewhere in South America too.

@brucewillis   Any other info???

Quote from: brucewillis on January 24, 2022, 12:52:37 PM

Magenta, Uma Landsleds, Rave Skateboards and Habitat are being made at IBL woodshop here in Brazil.

Great wood and shapes, skating a Habitat Fred Gall 8.25 rn and it's amazing.

Thanks for that info - I seem to recall something about IBL before but I am now following their instagram.


https://www.instagram.com/iblskateboards/



https://www.instagram.com/p/B-MzdmQAWg9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlDXzCRnBe2/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CHa_cd5gJdt/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 06, 2022, 03:37:32 AM

I just happened to be looking for pics of HLC boards, when this one came up.

Also these two shops seem like they have good info and pics too.

Anyone in EU familiar with them?



https://www.supereight.net/shop/sour-solution-nisse-over-it-8-375-skateboard-deck/


https://super-shop.com/i309342-sour-solution-nisse-over-it-deck-green

https://super-shop.com/i309341-sour-solution-nisse-over-it-deck-red

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 06, 2022, 01:01:57 PM

- The first page says CCS uses chinese boards for their shop decks. I've Had 3 CCS customs. One was PSSTIX one was Prime. one was unmarked. I imagine they just order bulk from whoever at the time and pull from a random stack.

-someone ask who makes the 7K stamped huf Street figther decks. This a picture of a woodchuck blank taken from ebay also stamped 7k
(https://i.imgur.com/jb3sPWLl.png)

all the woodchuck decks I have in my office are not stamped. Also their wood is pressed in mexico. I though it was US pressed

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 06, 2022, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 06, 2022, 01:01:57 PM

- The first page says CCS uses chinese boards for their shop decks. I've Had 3 CCS customs. One was PSSTIX one was Prime. one was unmarked. I imagine they just order bulk from whoever at the time and pull from a random stack.

-someone ask who makes the 7K stamped huf Street figther decks. This a picture of a woodchuck blank taken from ebay also stamped 7k
(https://i.imgur.com/jb3sPWLl.png)

all the woodchuck decks I have in my office are not stamped. Also their wood is pressed in mexico. I though it was US pressed

Yes I think CCS is a bit of a "get it from where ever you can" type of deal.  How long ago were those other boards, as I am trying to put the date that someone says in the info as well.

I am still a long way off going through compiling all the info, so could turn up some interesting ones in the process.


Shop decks post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104




Re Ebay Streetfighter deck:

Did you mean Clutch?

Streetfighter Huf boards were Clutch, made in Mexico (but might have had a USA flag sticker on them, as per one I saw in another shop and some other companies with wood from one place and labelled as USA).

I have one and it is exactly the same as other Clutch boards, so maybe someone on ebay didn't know where the board came from, or Clutch is supplying wood to other woodshops, as they do for Chapman.


Edit:

I thought Woodchuck boards are made in Canada, but the distribution is in California, as per comment on their most recent post below, but they could be getting boards from Clutch now, which makes sense if they are coming from Mexico.

Some did ask where the factory was and they didn't answer, but have answered lots of other questions before and after.

Interesting...


Just checking, as I didn't know half of that until I read it just now.  :)


https://www.instagram.com/p/CVDrVOBslTj/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CZfNlNQleBk/


woodchucklaminates
We just received more blanks from our Factory and they are ready to ship  let us know if we can assist you on anything . We have all sizes in stock from 7.75” to 9” popsicle Decks  #blankdecks #ramp #skateramp #skateparkbuilder #skateparks
4d

marty.mcfly.the.dog
Aren't YOU the factory?



woodchucklaminates
@ marty.mcfly.the.dog that’s why it says WE RECEIVED THEM FROM OUR FACTORY . our distribution Center is in California

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 06, 2022, 03:07:46 PM

Close ups on these both show different markings, one with what looks like a size laser burn and others with just a small dot.

Might be outsourcing wood from who knows where, just to get through.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CWTmAxlMtbo/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRty4EjFppO/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 06, 2022, 07:41:20 PM

ebay listing for blank deck. Nether the store nor listing say woodchuck.but the product shot setup they use. They also have stuff thats on the woodchuck store, like grindking pins and wood fingerboards. This store also sells random blems
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255266948438?hash=item3b6f188556:g:vdkAAOSwlQZhsAO0

They have a facility. This old factory video has a Spanish exit sign. I fell like OSHEA would require it to be atleast half english if it were in america.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUe2F9izS4o

Its possible they moved to mexico years ago and no one noticed. woodchuck has never really been a household name in terms of woodshops.

also those decks, look an awful lot like these these decks.
(https://i.imgur.com/XA7w05Qm.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on February 07, 2022, 08:27:55 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/Rl14QE7.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 07, 2022, 08:56:45 AM

Quote from: LewFarrell on February 07, 2022, 08:27:55 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/Rl14QE7.jpg)

All that in a span of what 6 months? Seems like just yesterday they came out a flashy video about their woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Chupacabra on February 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM

AD thing sucks. Put a deposit down in November now I gotta try to get it back. Sigh.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 07, 2022, 09:45:43 AM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on February 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM

AD thing sucks. Put a deposit down in November now I gotta try to get it back. Sigh.

 classic move, keep taking peoples money even though you know it's going under. Sorry that happened dude

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Chupacabra on February 07, 2022, 09:58:30 AM

Shady business tactics in skateboarding? I am shocked I tell you, shocked!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on February 07, 2022, 10:16:24 AM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on February 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM

AD thing sucks. Put a deposit down in November now I gotta try to get it back. Sigh.

Same deal here... Was stoked on getting some custom dimensions. Now I'm not sure where to go, and they won't get done anytime soon. Bummer for real.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 07, 2022, 05:09:21 PM

They tried to get me to place an order when them in November "closing the books to Spring delivery manufacturing orders soon" to lock me in, dodged the bullet there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roger__Kook on February 08, 2022, 01:39:43 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 06, 2022, 07:41:20 PM

ebay listing for blank deck. Nether the store nor listing say woodchuck.but the product shot setup they use. They also have stuff thats on the woodchuck store, like grindking pins and wood fingerboards. This store also sells random blems
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255266948438?hash=item3b6f188556:g:vdkAAOSwlQZhsAO0

They have a facility. This old factory video has a Spanish exit sign. I fell like OSHEA would require it to be atleast half english if it were in america.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUe2F9izS4o

Its possible they moved to mexico years ago and no one noticed. woodchuck has never really been a household name in terms of woodshops.

also those decks, look an awful lot like these these decks.
(https://i.imgur.com/XA7w05Qm.png)

That sign is in French, it says "Sortie" not "Salida", Woodchuck's factory is in Canada and I think, if it's in Quebec, French signage is allowed.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 08, 2022, 06:26:15 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 06, 2022, 07:41:20 PM

ebay listing for blank deck. Nether the store nor listing say woodchuck.but the product shot setup they use. They also have stuff thats on the woodchuck store, like grindking pins and wood fingerboards. This store also sells random blems

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255266948438

I had a chance to go through those ebay listings and I wonder if the ebay account isn't a clearing house, or something similar - they buy or have access to a lot of stock, bought cheap, list it and resell it for others, including what they get from Woodchuck supplied products, Clutch blanks, some other boards from different suppliers and a whole lot of second hand and used stuff, non skate related too - over 12,000 listings.

93 Kreeper inverted kingpins just there, over 900 sold from their listings too, which is nuts!


This listing definitely has Clutch blanks (letter and number stamp), conveniently wrapped in that way that could be done by anyone, but I only really see it from Clutch supplied places.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255352235294


Then other listings show boards that have the laser size on top, but over the back bolt area, which I have only seen from random / unknown woodshops in China, especially when they have something like "Genuine Canadian Maple" on a sticker with what looks more like a generic barcode and manufacturing info. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254835006598


This is a different font to the other boards, as well as others with random brands which look more like Woodchuck too and nothing on top.  There is even a Ron Jeremy deck in there, 25 in stock.

Anyway, I guess it is not a big deal either way, but I am used to seeing the all natural Premium decks (and others from Woodchuck) from back in the day, so it is good to see they have coloured ply layers now, but I wonder if they are doing something similar to another woodshop you had mentioned who can supply wood from different places, as maybe their own normal woodshop cannot keep up so they import whatever they need, be it Clutch from Mexico or other from where ever.

Funny looking through lots of those listings though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FakieDisaster on February 08, 2022, 04:38:36 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2022, 09:57:45 PM

Quote from: FakieDisaster on February 04, 2022, 09:04:48 PM

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are crailtap decks still good now? last time i rode was almost 10 years ago, super stiff wood. thinking of skating one again if not i'll resort to resin-7 decks

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Better but still inferior to BBS, PS Stix or DSM IMO, but it's nice they list their dims in detail if you're a stickler for that.

now i am more keen to get enjoi r7 since it's cheaper than girl decks, and might get another wknd VB deck for fun stuffs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 09, 2022, 02:32:49 PM

Just going to add this here too.

Quote from: almonteboardshop on February 09, 2022, 02:29:15 PM

I just got confirmation that AD is done. I was very lucky to get my full order apparently. I talked to someone who put it an order around the same time as me for the same quantity and got a call from their lawyer saying they went out of business. He didn’t get his boards and it doesn’t look like his money back either. Super bummer. They made a really good board/shape but I guess they didn’t know how to run the biz side of it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Youoverthere on February 10, 2022, 06:12:08 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 09, 2022, 02:32:49 PM

Just going to add this here too.

Quote from: almonteboardshop on February 09, 2022, 02:29:15 PM

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I just got confirmation that AD is done. I was very lucky to get my full order apparently. I talked to someone who put it an order around the same time as me for the same quantity and got a call from their lawyer saying they went out of business. He didn’t get his boards and it doesn’t look like his money back either. Super bummer. They made a really good board/shape but I guess they didn’t know how to run the biz side of it.

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coulda sworn I told y’all this like a week ago.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 10, 2022, 10:52:11 AM

Quote from: El Chupacabra on February 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM

AD thing sucks. Put a deposit down in November now I gotta try to get it back. Sigh.

Dude how much did they get you for. I think I'm the one who pointed them out to you so I feel somewhat responsible for this.

I know of a shop they got too. I suppose paying Andy Roy to come "party" at your weird jesus freak woodshop should have been a red flag for me but I know everyone was desperate for wood and I really dig bruj so I just wanted to see more stuff out there. Fuck me I feel awful.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 10, 2022, 08:51:42 PM

Quote from: Youoverthere on February 10, 2022, 06:12:08 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 09, 2022, 02:32:49 PM

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Just going to add this here too.

Quote from: almonteboardshop on February 09, 2022, 02:29:15 PM

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I just got confirmation that AD is done. I was very lucky to get my full order apparently. I talked to someone who put it an order around the same time as me for the same quantity and got a call from their lawyer saying they went out of business. He didn’t get his boards and it doesn’t look like his money back either. Super bummer. They made a really good board/shape but I guess they didn’t know how to run the biz side of it.

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coulda sworn I told y’all this like a week ago.

Yes you did (and thank you - I appreciate it) but it was more a case of adding more relevant information to this thread as well, this time from another skate shop.

Any other additional info that is relevant is good to copy and paste here as well, given the situation and it would seem a lot of people are out of pocket from it, but also some had been lucky enough to get their orders just before they pulled the plug on the place.


I could not even think to imagine how many people are now left without boards who have paid for them, or at least put a deposit down, so it is definitely not a good situation, but I guess many people would never have known how close to going under it had been even from the start, but the struggle is real, even for long established businesses, just as much as new starts.  More are going to go under and others are going to be very close, with no one knowing until it is done and too late.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 10, 2022, 11:38:07 PM

Any other info on shop boards, please add to this thread.

I have a few (as per link below), but I am still going through the old threads and looking at setups to make the list more complete.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729105#msg3729105



Just added:


There Skateboards - BBS



https://www.instagram.com/p/CFDgblZlSje/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 11, 2022, 02:27:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 10, 2022, 08:51:42 PM

Quote from: Youoverthere on February 10, 2022, 06:12:08 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 09, 2022, 02:32:49 PM

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Just going to add this here too.

Quote from: almonteboardshop on February 09, 2022, 02:29:15 PM

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I just got confirmation that AD is done. I was very lucky to get my full order apparently. I talked to someone who put it an order around the same time as me for the same quantity and got a call from their lawyer saying they went out of business. He didn’t get his boards and it doesn’t look like his money back either. Super bummer. They made a really good board/shape but I guess they didn’t know how to run the biz side of it.

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coulda sworn I told y’all this like a week ago.

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Yes you did (and thank you - I appreciate it) but it was more a case of adding more relevant information to this thread as well, this time from another skate shop.

Any other additional info that is relevant is good to copy and paste here as well, given the situation and it would seem a lot of people are out of pocket from it, but also some had been lucky enough to get their orders just before they pulled the plug on the place.


I could not even think to imagine how many people are now left without boards who have paid for them, or at least put a deposit down, so it is definitely not a good situation, but I guess many people would never have known how close to going under it had been even from the start, but the struggle is real, even for long established businesses, just as much as new starts.  More are going to go under and others are going to be very close, with no one knowing until it is done and too late.

They got at least 3 people I know. I want to think they just got in over their head but honestly with demand for boards as crazy as it was if they weren't making money then someone massively fucked up, what I want to know is if that fucking up was the plan all along or they're just incredibly incompetent. From the outside looking in it really looks almost like an exit scam.

For anyone reading this that's in the same boat, at least one person successfully got their money back already by reporting it to the credit card company they used for the purchase. I'm sure this will vary depending on the card provider but it's at least one path to getting your money back from these assholes.

Also, if anyone wants to support a SLAP pal who got fucked over by them, or just a dude who just makes cool shit (like a Paulo Diaz guest board) and contributes to the fun here - buy something from Brujaria skateboards. The graphics are actually good too, so just buy one for that reason.

https://www.brujariaskateboards.com/shop-1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Chupacabra on February 11, 2022, 09:11:08 AM

Thanks for the shout out!

Paulos are long gone. Supreme actually bought most of them which was kinda cool cause they gave us money! Ultimate limited edition drop, checks from Supreme!
He's a mercurial fellow and can be hard to track down to do more but it was a rad thing to do with him having grown up in Los Feliz in the 90s and him being the local legend.
It was fun working with Norman and Ghost too.

As for AD, the lawyer basically said "go piss up a rope" so I'm working with Bank Of America to get my money back. Its not a huge amount ($2500) but its enough to get upset over. Bru is an extension of my much larger company so hopefully I'll be able to get BofA to listen. I bet that sleazy lawyer AD is using will take their call.
I also referred them to other people during the board drought so now I've got some stain on my name by proxy!
 
Buttheads.

Things got really hard during the board drought for the smaller brands. Not the first time a woodshop has used sleazy tactics (looking at you and your bait and switch invoicing Clutch) but its coming back around on them now. I still do freelance graphic work for a local press here in LA (think World reissues) and we talk about the nature of the industry. Apparently the big brands flexed hard when boards got scarce and are now totally swamped with inventory. Like needing multiple warehouses levels of inventory and retailers (zumiez) are cutting orders so hopefully we'll see a resurgence of smaller boutique brands with lower overheads.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 03:48:29 AM

So i got this Darkroom Harlequin 8.75 football kind of deck, which feels really good. Listings of wheelbase and so on are different on different sites. Tactics says 14wb, 7 nose, 6.5 tail 32.625 length, native store lists it as 31.5 length 14.125. I don't have a metric measurement tape but the truth seems to be a mixture of both. 14 wb (measured 35.5-35.6 cm), 31.5 length (measured 80cm without concave), tail 6.5 (middle of bolt to direct line to the edge, this is not the point sticking out the furthest because it tapers a lot), nose 7 (same measurement as tail). Might be slightly of because of the metric tape and conversion, but should be in that range i guess. Is this shape a "standard" BBS shape? The shape is not in their newest drops as it seems, but there are still some available. Are there similar shapes i am missing? The Love seat feels a lot more sluggish and a bit less stable imo. Maybe the crail skidul shape even though it is only 8.5 wide? The polar football has a longer wheelbase even though it seems to be 14.375 and not 14.5 as stated, and it has wheel wells which is cool i guess.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 12, 2022, 06:43:09 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 03:48:29 AM

So i got this Darkroom Harlequin 8.75 football kind of deck, which feels really good. Listings of wheelbase and so on are different on different sites. Tactics says 14wb, 7 nose, 6.5 tail 32.625 length, native store lists it as 31.5 length 14.125. I don't have a metric measurement tape but the truth seems to be a mixture of both. 14 wb (measured 35.5-35.6 cm), 31.5 length (measured 80cm without concave), tail 6.5 (middle of bolt to direct line to the edge, this is not the point sticking out the furthest because it tapers a lot), nose 7 (same measurement as tail). Might be slightly of because of the metric tape and conversion, but should be in that range i guess. Is this shape a "standard" BBS shape? The shape is not in their newest drops as it seems, but there are still some available. Are there similar shapes i am missing? The Love seat feels a lot more sluggish and a bit less stable imo. Maybe the crail skidul shape even though it is only 8.5 wide? The polar football has a longer wheelbase even though it seems to be 14.375 and not 14.5 as stated, and it has wheel wells which is cool i guess.

Never seen that one before, so guessing it was a specific board just for Darkroom.  I would say there could be others similar to that, but can't think of any right this minute.  If you did like it and there are more out there, I would say get as many as you can as there most likely is not going to be more.

The Darkroom site / catalog from Winter 2021 had it listed as 8.75 x 31.5 so that seems about right as the overall length adds up closer to 31.5 or so with the 14 wb, 7 nose and 6.5 tail.

Other Darkroom decks I have had were different to the stickers on them, so that is no surprise, I guess.


Top views are often best to see the shape of the deck, without getting distracted by the graphic too.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0251/1205/1817/products/[email protected])

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 12, 2022, 07:04:33 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 03:48:29 AM

I had a quick look around and know there is an Antihero deck that is much the same, pic below, but I couldn't see too many others like that one.


(https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/fall21/ah-2021-falld2-03.jpg)



Re Darkroom decks:

Although this is probably not the dimensions you are after, it looks like the only current shape that has been continued from the last lot.

Given the overall length and the wheelbase, with shorter nose, if you drilled in the front using the six hole baseplate method, which is about 3/8" then you would easily have almost the same board as the other one, for wheelbase at least, with what might be a shape that could work for you as well. 

Just an option anyway.


https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/peafowl-skateboard-deck-9-125

9.125" wide
14.375" wheelbase
6.625" tail
6.375" nose
31.5" length

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0070/8647/3275/products/peafowl_web_1024x1024.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 11:33:30 AM

Oh that grimple stix looks sick. It is even a slick the .25 difference in wb seems to be from the nose. Might  I promised myself to not buy more decks this month... Could redrill it with a 6 whole as well. Thanks for the help. The 9.25 is too big for me sadly. I can skate e.g. the loveseat shape(9.0), but it does not feel right, too wide and somewhat sluggish on flips because of that, at least for me. The 8.75 with that short wb and overall length seems to be a sweet spot for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 13, 2022, 02:05:52 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 11:33:30 AM

Oh that grimple stix looks sick. It is even a slick the .25 difference in wb seems to be from the nose. Might  I promised myself to not buy more decks this month... Could redrill it with a 6 whole as well. Thanks for the help. The 9.25 is too big for me sadly. I can skate e.g. the loveseat shape(9.0), but it does not feel right, too wide and somewhat sluggish on flips because of that, at least for me. The 8.75 with that short wb and overall length seems to be a sweet spot for me.

I totally get what you are saying about the bigger board.  Some are fun to just roll around on, but if you want it for more than that, I wouldn't want it that wide either and although I like to modify things, I think shaving the shoulders off it would just be a bit of a pain, when there might be something else out there that would work well that you didn't have to mess with so much.

The good thing with DLX is those sort of shapes usually are not a one off and never done again and the "egg shaped deck" is definitely in a rising interest category.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 14, 2022, 01:49:05 AM

I saw a curious sticker while browsing online today, on a board I would usually think was BBS but turns out it is not and this one is Made in China, so just wondering if anyone has seen this in person and stood on the board to see how the concave is.

The pic is probably going to be a bit blurry as I tried to blow it up even more than I should have, but at least the look of it is pretty easy to see.


(https://i.ibb.co/f17S4zg/Birdhouse-Made-in-China-deck-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nB6g19)


This is the link to the ebay pic, which has the whole board.


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SUgAAOSw4rhiBzts/s-l1600.jpg


Anyone else seen that sticker or know where the board comes from?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: brucewillis on February 14, 2022, 10:05:49 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 06, 2022, 01:59:57 AM

So I don't forget to add this.

I am wondering if they are just local to Brazil or distribute them elsewhere in South America too.

@brucewillis   Any other info???

Quote from: brucewillis on January 24, 2022, 12:52:37 PM

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Magenta, Uma Landsleds, Rave Skateboards and Habitat are being made at IBL woodshop here in Brazil.

Great wood and shapes, skating a Habitat Fred Gall 8.25 rn and it's amazing.

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Thanks for that info - I seem to recall something about IBL before but I am now following their instagram.


https://www.instagram.com/iblskateboards/



https://www.instagram.com/p/B-MzdmQAWg9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlDXzCRnBe2/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CHa_cd5gJdt/

Brazil only.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 14, 2022, 05:07:31 PM

Quote from: WorkinHardHardware on February 14, 2022, 04:08:11 PM

I sell uncut blanks, check out @WorkinHardHardware on insta. Have 9.5" and 11" uncuts hand glued and pressed in Tempe, AZ 8)

Looking good!

From the BLANKS thread.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CZXDrKkpO_W/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7tjDElVkO/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DERBY on February 14, 2022, 05:29:10 PM

how’s ps stix been lately? been on bbs (hockey/fa) and really want to try out a gx deck

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 14, 2022, 06:17:53 PM

Quote from: DERBY on February 14, 2022, 05:29:10 PM

how’s ps stix been lately? been on bbs (hockey/fa) and really want to try out a gx deck

I feel like some people have unpleasant experiences with PS Stix, but lots of other people still skate their boards and enjoy them.

Sure they are a different feel to some other companies, as well as some pretty significant quality control issues with a few boards people have posted, but they still work well for what people want for the most part and are still up there with the best for many people who love them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on February 15, 2022, 05:09:32 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 12, 2022, 07:04:33 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on February 12, 2022, 03:48:29 AM

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I had a quick look around and know there is an Antihero deck that is much the same, pic below, but I couldn't see too many others like that one.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

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Got the grimple today. It has almost the same shape. From aligning the AH on the darkroom I would say it tapers less on the nose (starting from the middle of the board). Not sure on the tail though might even be exactly the same shape. A bit hard to determine from just aligning them on top of each other, because of the different wheelbase (14.25 as advertised), which seems shorten both the nose and tail a bit (determined by aligning them on the bolts) and because one deck is already in use making it impossible to align them by putting them up on the ground. Overall it is really close, almost looks like they just adjusted only half of the outline in the CAD-Model and the wheelbase drills. Which does make sense from a production point of view I guess. Thanks for the suggestion I am excited to see how these 2 differ for me when skating (if at all).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on February 15, 2022, 03:55:25 PM

Bit of sad news, but it looks like Scumco logo boards are no longer pennswood pressed. Newest drop says they were pressed by Control. Never tried control wood, but I was really looking forward to another pennswood scumco deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:48:03 PM

Quote from: Urtripping on February 15, 2022, 03:55:25 PM

Bit of sad news, but it looks like Scumco logo boards are no longer pennswood pressed. Newest drop says they were pressed by Control. Never tried control wood, but I was really looking forward to another pennswood scumco deck.

Check the comments on this one.  Maybe there is hope to get some still.


plaingraysweater
Aw man, no more pennswood? Wanted another pennswood pressed logo board after the one I'm up is gone.


scumcosons
plaingraysweater dm me


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaAqjsSJrJj/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on February 15, 2022, 05:50:13 PM

@Woodshop that was me in the comments! Unfortunately, he confirmed that these are indeed control this time around. Though, it seemed a bit like there was a possibility of them going back to pennswood when it's feasible.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 16, 2022, 06:35:09 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

I would also be interested to hear what others think of them.

The used board from a lot I bought is fairly decent to skate on still - Studio flowers deck - maybe the closest (besides Clutch boards) in concave to BBS too, which made me look twice but it is definitely Control and I can see differences too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 16, 2022, 07:05:31 PM

Quote from: bigdave on February 15, 2022, 05:10:33 AM

Has anyone skated that Uma FARK shape that the Roman is in? 8.9"? trying to discern a measurement over trucks. Thanks.

I had a look at a few pics and did the copy / paste comparison from widest point to the bolts (can send you a pic if needed) but I think it is maybe 8.75 or more at the front bolts and about 8.5 or a bit more at the back trucks.

Compared to some other boards, it didn't look like it tapers in much at all so you probably could still run Ace classics on it easily enough.


I put up the board pic as it is a good example of BBS hologram sticker and alt warning sticker too, this time being lower beside the back bolts and pink as per the Uma stickers, not the usual red and white.

(Sorry it might be a big pic)


(https://i.ibb.co/q0JXzQw/Uma-BBS-Fark-deck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XyYN9RT)

(http://)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 18, 2022, 01:15:24 AM

Quote from: CrimsonGhost on February 17, 2022, 11:08:18 AM

Clutch Wood

Quote from: fredgallSOTY on February 17, 2022, 11:10:11 AM

its BBS for the kyle and kunle decks and PS for the lil kim

From the Violet thread, boards from PS Stix and said to also be BBS and more.

Anyone got any more info?




I can see PS Stix top sticker on the white one here at least.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CWwoBvVlS3L/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on February 18, 2022, 05:49:03 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

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Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

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What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

I’m on a thumbs nyc control pressed board now and I like it. Good pop, not too steep, not too mellow. Good middle of the road board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 18, 2022, 08:49:18 PM

Bonus points to anyone that can get actual measurements on the BBS Scumco.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 18, 2022, 10:32:16 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

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Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

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What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

They suck. Dead, soggy wood. I don't hate the mold but it honestly sounds like dropping a wet log when you pop. Bought one, thought it was a dud and I just got unlucky so I bought another. It was worse.

And yes, they've been having trouble getting boards basically since early in the pandemic. Haven't been to the shop for a while so I don't know what his plans are but it was originally to switch to PS so if he's got a generator account now I'd anticipate him switching over to that full time.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: JugeL on February 18, 2022, 11:07:56 PM

Control is average at the best, used to skate their boards for years until i got into Dwindle/BBS/PS boards and never looked back. Boards would feel dud after couple sessions.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 19, 2022, 11:02:57 PM

Any idea who makes boards with sugar maple/Canadian maple? I want one for my next board located in Australia. I think we get boards from both us and euro

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 20, 2022, 01:18:53 AM

Quote from: Escooter on February 19, 2022, 11:02:57 PM

Any idea who makes boards with sugar maple/Canadian maple? I want one for my next board located in Australia. I think we get boards from both us and euro

Everyone. Nearly every professional skateboard manufacturer uses the same wood. I'd wager close to 100% of the companies in this thread. They source it from different places but it's by and large not what differentiates the quality of a board. Differences between the shops are more down to glue choice (although most use Franklin sk-8), press settings and techniques, molds, and attention to detail. Just don't buy a price point and you're fine, but a lot of those are the same wood too (just lower graded veneer).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:02:41 AM

Woodshop thread and funnily enough I have been out cutting wood the last couple of days as we had a massive tree come down in the storm from Friday night.


As to maple / wood specific questions, I am thinking a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but in terms of maple used for skateboard decks, the best thing to do is go into your local skate shop and not just have a look at boards there, but stand on them and figure out what feels more comfortable, as most (not quite all) will be made from the same product, but will feel quite different under your feet.

At least all of Australia is pretty much open and good for in store shopping, so unless someone is in an area without anything, there should still be some sort of shop around to be able to go in and talk to someone.

I am in Brisbane QLD, but used to travel all over AU for work so have been into many, many skate shops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2022, 04:40:50 AM

Quote from: JugeL on February 18, 2022, 11:07:56 PM

Control is average at the best, used to skate their boards for years until i got into Dwindle/BBS/PS boards and never looked back. Boards would feel dud after couple sessions.

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 18, 2022, 10:32:16 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

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Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

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What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

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They suck. Dead, soggy wood. I don't hate the mold but it honestly sounds like dropping a wet log when you pop. Bought one, thought it was a dud and I just got unlucky so I bought another. It was worse.

And yes, they've been having trouble getting boards basically since early in the pandemic. Haven't been to the shop for a while so I don't know what his plans are but it was originally to switch to PS so if he's got a generator account now I'd anticipate him switching over to that full time.

Thanks for the input guys, good thing I ordered just 1 to test out.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Tale Crab on February 20, 2022, 07:44:41 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 20, 2022, 01:18:53 AM

Differences between the shops are more down to glue choice (although most use Franklin sk-8), press settings and techniques, molds, and attention to detail.

Do you know if PS Stix and BBS use the same glue? Just wondering what could the biggest contributor in them feeling and responding so different. Even the chipping seems to be somewhat unique for each of them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 20, 2022, 11:29:46 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 18, 2022, 10:32:16 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 15, 2022, 06:41:07 PM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 15, 2022, 05:53:39 PM

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Ha yeah, I should have looked in to the account.


Are they having to get whatever they can from where ever they can?

Checked all and they are about half and half - some Generator and some Control.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor-wu-forever

Generator Pressing


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/logoboard

Control Canada Pressing

[close]

What's the word on Control decks? I have a TOPX and Rave on ice that I can't bring myself to skate yet and I feel the madness creeping in again.

[close]

They suck. Dead, soggy wood. I don't hate the mold but it honestly sounds like dropping a wet log when you pop. Bought one, thought it was a dud and I just got unlucky so I bought another. It was worse.

And yes, they've been having trouble getting boards basically since early in the pandemic. Haven't been to the shop for a while so I don't know what his plans are but it was originally to switch to PS so if he's got a generator account now I'd anticipate him switching over to that full time.

If you get your hands on any of the BBS decks can you get measurements? Specifically looking at the 8.38

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:53:05 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 20, 2022, 01:18:53 AM

Quote from: Escooter on February 19, 2022, 11:02:57 PM

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Any idea who makes boards with sugar maple/Canadian maple? I want one for my next board located in Australia. I think we get boards from both us and euro

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Everyone. Nearly every professional skateboard manufacturer uses the same wood. I'd wager close to 100% of the companies in this thread. They source it from different places but it's by and large not what differentiates the quality of a board. Differences between the shops are more down to glue choice (although most use Franklin sk-8), press settings and techniques, molds, and attention to detail. Just don't buy a price point and you're fine, but a lot of those are the same wood too (just lower graded veneer).

Good to know that most still use maple and haven't changed the game for some other wood.
What do you mean by price point?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:12:00 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:53:05 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 20, 2022, 01:18:53 AM

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Quote from: Escooter on February 19, 2022, 11:02:57 PM

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Any idea who makes boards with sugar maple/Canadian maple? I want one for my next board located in Australia. I think we get boards from both us and euro

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Everyone. Nearly every professional skateboard manufacturer uses the same wood. I'd wager close to 100% of the companies in this thread. They source it from different places but it's by and large not what differentiates the quality of a board. Differences between the shops are more down to glue choice (although most use Franklin sk-8), press settings and techniques, molds, and attention to detail. Just don't buy a price point and you're fine, but a lot of those are the same wood too (just lower graded veneer).

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Good to know that most still use maple and haven't changed the game for some other wood.
What do you mean by price point?

Where are you in AU?

Have you been into a City Beach or even just a department store and had a look at their cheaper skateboards, either decks or completes, then looked at or stood on a pro board, or at least a deck that was usually around the $100+ compared to the $50 decks?

This is more to help get an understanding, than anything else.  Not trying to be a dick or anything.


If you have been around skateboarding for a while, or at least been into any skate shops, you would see there are cheaper boards and more expensive boards.

The cheaper boards are often called price point boards, as they are cheaper, hence price in the name, but are often made with inferior wood or cheaper wood (Birch or other substitute product instead of "Hard Rock Maple"), which for a beginner or a person who doesn't break boards, might not matter at all what board they get, but for someone bigger (adult sized or can skate with reasonable ability) one of those boards will most likely not last half as long as a better quality board.

Even just looking at the layers of wood, the cheaper boards are more often than not all natural ply layers and thicker than the "pro quality" boards, which often (but not always) have a stained layer or even a few stained layers, are lighter, stronger and more solid than the cheaper boards.


There are a few articles you could read about different quality boards, some being a bit more out there than others, or even considered one sided by the manufacturer, but the most simple blog is this one (below) along with this Instagram post comparing boards, all from the same woodshop and company too.


https://bbsmfg.com/blog/



https://www.instagram.com/p/CQNdT4pFwum/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:16:46 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

That last post might have a bit of that sort of info, but if you are asking about flight and other boards made with fibre based products, not just wood, that is a whole different level right there.  Some would say anything like that is completely unnecessary and over the top, others love those sort of boards and say they could never go back to just a normal seven ply wood skateboard deck.


What was your last board?

Do you break boards?

What would you say your general level of skill is - beginner, intermediate, advanced?


When working in skate shops, the most common questions I would ask included those, mainly to help determine where you were at and what to recommend for you.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:27:40 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

Just to add to that, I think the whole basis for Shoes & Gear started around questions like that, which have evolved into these sort of threads.

Woodshop was born from a need to get everything in one place and having a whole lot more time with lockdowns and other issues here in Australia, so although this account and thread is still a work in progress, it hopefully will be able to help people with those sort of questions, if not directly from me, but from others contributing to the thread with their opinions and experiences.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:16:46 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

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Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

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That last post might have a bit of that sort of info, but if you are asking about flight and other boards made with fibre based products, not just wood, that is a whole different level right there.  Some would say anything like that is completely unnecessary and over the top, others love those sort of boards and say they could never go back to just a normal seven ply wood skateboard deck.


What was your last board?

Do you break boards?

What would you say your general level of skill is - beginner, intermediate, advanced?


When working in skate shops, the most common questions I would ask included those, mainly to help determine where you were at and what to recommend for you.

I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2022, 05:48:50 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 03:16:46 PM

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Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

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Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

[close]

 


That last post might have a bit of that sort of info, but if you are asking about flight and other boards made with fibre based products, not just wood, that is a whole different level right there.  Some would say anything like that is completely unnecessary and over the top, others love those sort of boards and say they could never go back to just a normal seven ply wood skateboard deck.


What was your last board?

Do you break boards?

What would you say your general level of skill is - beginner, intermediate, advanced?


When working in skate shops, the most common questions I would ask included those, mainly to help determine where you were at and what to recommend for you.

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I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

Snapping on a kickflip on the 1st session doesn't sound right for their Resin-7 models, which all pro decks utilize.

You may actually have a case for the 30-day warranty, try hitting up the retailer or Dwindle directly to see if they can sort you out.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 20, 2022, 07:17:26 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 02:57:06 PM

Also how can I tell who sources higher quality wood? Or is that board specific like fibre light and uberlight and flightdecks and the like?

There is no "higher quality wood" in the way I think you're looking at this from the questions you're asking. Everyone uses maple and it's sourced from a million different places so it's effectively all the same. There are higher quality boards, however. All the stuff you listed are boards that use synthetic materials in addition to maple to increase strength and reduce weight. Most people don't like them because they feel differently but if you are one of those dudes who somehow snaps his deck every session or absolutely need a board they can drive over and still skate then they might be worth looking into but really the shape and (most of all) your technique are going to have much more impact on your skating than what kind of glue your board uses. Just get a 7 ply maple board that feels good under your feet.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 08:10:28 PM

I'm looking into one of the Zero 9.5 shaped boards but does anyone know what wood shop they're using currently?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 08:59:49 PM

Quote from: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 08:10:28 PM

I'm looking into one of the Zero 9.5 shaped boards but does anyone know what wood shop they're using currently?

Those ones are all said to be BBS if in the USA but if elsewhere, they are from an unknown woodshop in China.

We have the "other" versions here in AU and although they look ok, I am not about to try one and find out.

The shop can usually have a look at the warning sticker, which will have Made in Mexico (from BBS) or Made in China (from somewhere else) and let you know, which I did with my last board purchase, as the sticker on the board didn't look at all familiar, so I wasn't going to try something from an unknown woodshop when buying online.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 09:12:41 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

Easy - at least now I know where things are at.

I used to find that some boards that were too new and stiff would be more likely to break within the first few sessions and those Dwindle boards sure are super stiff, but any board can break easily enough, if a heavy landing is just in the wrong spot, eg snapping the tail off most commonly.

Surfstitch does have some pretty good deals, with lots of discounted sales on decent product.  Kind of funny you ask about 8.3 sizes as that is the most common size a number of people I know ride (one who bought them all from Surfstitch in the most recent 40% off sale) but I think there was still one impact light board on there too in 8.375 size, maybe more now if they have restocked.  That would take a bit more of a beating and last through heavy landings, so maybe worth a try if it goes on another sale, which will most likely happen sooner or later.

As for other boards in roughly 8.3 size, that is 8.375 or 8.38 which are pretty much the same thing, all just a hair under 8.5 really, but there can be some significant differences in shapes, some longer and some shorter.

There are almost too many options, but if you are after cheaper / sale boards, there are a few places that have some good sales on right now, which you could try, who I know have some 8.3 sized boards in stock, as I was looking last week.

I can send you a whole list easily enough, rather than putting them all up here, but a few online shops worth checking out include Boarders (Sydney), Kingpin (ebay stores with current 15% discounts), Boardworld, OCD and a few more.*


*  That is if you are not keen or unable to go into a skate shop to stand on boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 09:57:15 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 08:59:49 PM

Quote from: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 08:10:28 PM

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I'm looking into one of the Zero 9.5 shaped boards but does anyone know what wood shop they're using currently?

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Those ones are all said to be BBS if in the USA but if elsewhere, they are from an unknown woodshop in China.

We have the "other" versions here in AU and although they look ok, I am not about to try one and find out.

The shop can usually have a look at the warning sticker, which will have Made in Mexico (from BBS) or Made in China (from somewhere else) and let you know, which I did with my last board purchase, as the sticker on the board didn't look at all familiar, so I wasn't going to try something from an unknown woodshop when buying online.

Thanks, I'm in the US so it should be BBS but I saw they were using clutch in the past. I've had bad experiences with clutch wood so just wanted to make sure before I buy.  You're doing God's work with all the woodshop info haha.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2022, 02:22:39 AM

Quote from: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 09:57:15 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 08:59:49 PM

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Quote from: minilogoflow on February 20, 2022, 08:10:28 PM

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I'm looking into one of the Zero 9.5 shaped boards but does anyone know what wood shop they're using currently?

[close]

Those ones are all said to be BBS if in the USA but if elsewhere, they are from an unknown woodshop in China.

We have the "other" versions here in AU and although they look ok, I am not about to try one and find out.

The shop can usually have a look at the warning sticker, which will have Made in Mexico (from BBS) or Made in China (from somewhere else) and let you know, which I did with my last board purchase, as the sticker on the board didn't look at all familiar, so I wasn't going to try something from an unknown woodshop when buying online.

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Thanks, I'm in the US so it should be BBS but I saw they were using clutch in the past. I've had bad experiences with clutch wood so just wanted to make sure before I buy.  You're doing God's work with all the woodshop info haha.

When everything went crazy in 2020, I think a lot of brands used Clutch or "other woodshops" for their boards for a short while, but now everything is "back to normal" it seems like all those brands are back on BBS now.

It can definitely be confusing, as there is probably still some old stock out there in shops and the last thing you want is to order something thinking it was something else.


At least the 2021 to 2022 update should have more reliable sources as everything settles down, but I do try to keep the year anything changed or was noted to be updated too, eg


Zero* US 2021   ……….   ……….   BBS
Zero* 2020   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Zero* (EU/Asia -2020)   ……….   ……….   Dwindle
Zero* (EU/Asia 2021)   ……….   ……….   Dailan Huahong



For some brands in other countries or even some continents, there is probably still a bit of confusion or local licensing means that certain brands might be on locally produced boards or through local distributors on whatever wood they have to hand with the heat transfers being put on in house.  I don't think I can cover everyone, when it comes to that sort of thing, but at least the more info that people provide, the easier it is to keep things updated.


Same with the shop boards list too, which could do with a few more if anyone else has bought a shop board recently, or knows who else uses which boards / woodshops for their shop boards, it is the fourth post on the first page.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104


 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on February 21, 2022, 04:54:10 AM

Gnosis will have to be removed from the list...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPUfc4Mv-G/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 21, 2022, 05:39:15 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on February 21, 2022, 04:54:10 AM

Gnosis will have to be removed from the list...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPUfc4Mv-G/

That really sucks. Wonder if that will be the end of Blast Skates or if they will move to another woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 21, 2022, 08:24:15 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 09:12:41 PM

Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

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I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

[close]

Easy - at least now I know where things are at.

I used to find that some boards that were too new and stiff would be more likely to break within the first few sessions and those Dwindle boards sure are super stiff, but any board can break easily enough, if a heavy landing is just in the wrong spot, eg snapping the tail off most commonly.

Surfstitch does have some pretty good deals, with lots of discounted sales on decent product.  Kind of funny you ask about 8.3 sizes as that is the most common size a number of people I know ride (one who bought them all from Surfstitch in the most recent 40% off sale) but I think there was still one impact light board on there too in 8.375 size, maybe more now if they have restocked.  That would take a bit more of a beating and last through heavy landings, so maybe worth a try if it goes on another sale, which will most likely happen sooner or later.

As for other boards in roughly 8.3 size, that is 8.375 or 8.38 which are pretty much the same thing, all just a hair under 8.5 really, but there can be some significant differences in shapes, some longer and some shorter.

There are almost too many options, but if you are after cheaper / sale boards, there are a few places that have some good sales on right now, which you could try, who I know have some 8.3 sized boards in stock, as I was looking last week.

I can send you a whole list easily enough, rather than putting them all up here, but a few online shops worth checking out include Boarders (Sydney), Kingpin (ebay stores with current 15% discounts), Boardworld, OCD and a few more.*


*  That is if you are not keen or unable to go into a skate shop to stand on boards.

I'm going to go to fast times when I have the money and as the other guy said give some boards a feel. They let you stand on the board in the shop right? Will they let you carpet skate, even just an Ollie? Let the wand choose the wizard so to speak.

I'm currently in a psych ward and iv become quite spiritual and figured out I have an affinity with sugar maple or skateboards. Funny it's not baseball? But they never actually break their bats that often anyway.

Anyone interested should check out totems and pay more attention to the animals they affiliate with and the ones that present themselves. Plants can be totems also, why not? I guess they are also organic after all?

I think we all skate for a reason anyway? I don't know why it has something to do with the effort and sacrifice, in more ways then one and for multiple reasons. I don't know why but we are drawn to these useless wooden toys even if we get beat up trying some fancy movements, we still triumph.

Anyway there is some girl with a possessed porcelain doll in here, so let's hope I make it out with no monkeys on my back.

And no I'm not a jedi wannabe and don't believe that danny gonzalez stole my magic because I did a tre flip foot plant first hahaha even though he's older then me. Like I still have my head in reality, just a tad wrapped, like old mates hookups deck his parents threw in his backyard.(real story)

Anyway, enough voodoo. Thanks for the info. Prey to Satan \m/

"I kickflipped melon grabbed wallenburg first where are my royalties danny?"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disclosed on February 21, 2022, 08:47:10 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on February 21, 2022, 05:39:15 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on February 21, 2022, 04:54:10 AM

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Gnosis will have to be removed from the list...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPUfc4Mv-G/

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That really sucks. Wonder if that will be the end of Blast Skates or if they will move to another woodshop.

yeah that's what also worried me. they used to get stuff somewhere else beofre gnosis but i have no idea where.
i don't know of any other UK woodshops, and i fear getting boards from Euro woodshops will be more expensive.

also i just loved the Gnosis concave. that flat middle makes em nice to my feet while still being steep.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 21, 2022, 11:59:09 AM

Quote from: Escooter on February 21, 2022, 08:24:15 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 09:12:41 PM

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Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

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I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

[close]

Easy - at least now I know where things are at.

I used to find that some boards that were too new and stiff would be more likely to break within the first few sessions and those Dwindle boards sure are super stiff, but any board can break easily enough, if a heavy landing is just in the wrong spot, eg snapping the tail off most commonly.

Surfstitch does have some pretty good deals, with lots of discounted sales on decent product.  Kind of funny you ask about 8.3 sizes as that is the most common size a number of people I know ride (one who bought them all from Surfstitch in the most recent 40% off sale) but I think there was still one impact light board on there too in 8.375 size, maybe more now if they have restocked.  That would take a bit more of a beating and last through heavy landings, so maybe worth a try if it goes on another sale, which will most likely happen sooner or later.

As for other boards in roughly 8.3 size, that is 8.375 or 8.38 which are pretty much the same thing, all just a hair under 8.5 really, but there can be some significant differences in shapes, some longer and some shorter.

There are almost too many options, but if you are after cheaper / sale boards, there are a few places that have some good sales on right now, which you could try, who I know have some 8.3 sized boards in stock, as I was looking last week.

I can send you a whole list easily enough, rather than putting them all up here, but a few online shops worth checking out include Boarders (Sydney), Kingpin (ebay stores with current 15% discounts), Boardworld, OCD and a few more.*


*  That is if you are not keen or unable to go into a skate shop to stand on boards.

[close]

I'm going to go to fast times when I have the money and as the other guy said give some boards a feel. They let you stand on the board in the shop right? Will they let you carpet skate, even just an Ollie? Let the wand choose the wizard so to speak.

I'm currently in a psych ward and iv become quite spiritual and figured out I have an affinity with sugar maple or skateboards. Funny it's not baseball? But they never actually break their bats that often anyway.

Anyone interested should check out totems and pay more attention to the animals they affiliate with and the ones that present themselves. Plants can be totems also, why not? I guess they are also organic after all?

I think we all skate for a reason anyway? I don't know why it has something to do with the effort and sacrifice, in more ways then one and for multiple reasons. I don't know why but we are drawn to these useless wooden toys even if we get beat up trying some fancy movements, we still triumph.

Anyway there is some girl with a possessed porcelain doll in here, so let's hope I make it out with no monkeys on my back.

And no I'm not a jedi wannabe and don't believe that danny gonzalez stole my magic because I did a tre flip foot plant first hahaha even though he's older then me. Like I still have my head in reality, just a tad wrapped, like old mates hookups deck his parents threw in his backyard.(real story)

Anyway, enough voodoo. Thanks for the info. Prey to Satan \m/

"I kickflipped melon grabbed wallenburg first where are my royalties danny?"

You must really have nothing better to do. It would be one thing if it was funny, but it's not. Go fuck yourself.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2022, 02:24:41 PM

Quote from: disclosed on February 21, 2022, 08:47:10 AM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on February 21, 2022, 05:39:15 AM

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Quote from: fernando the skater on February 21, 2022, 04:54:10 AM

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Gnosis will have to be removed from the list...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPUfc4Mv-G/

[close]

That really sucks. Wonder if that will be the end of Blast Skates or if they will move to another woodshop.

[close]

yeah that's what also worried me. they used to get stuff somewhere else beofre gnosis but i have no idea where.
i don't know of any other UK woodshops, and i fear getting boards from Euro woodshops will be more expensive.

also i just loved the Gnosis concave. that flat middle makes em nice to my feet while still being steep.

And they shall fall...


I wonder how many other "small business ventures" or even larger ones will not make it out the other side in the following year or so.


Anno Domini, Gnosis and maybe more to come.

I had definitely heard some bigger woodshops are having a struggle getting raw materials too, so no boards coming out means no work and no money coming in.


Thanks for the update and info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 21, 2022, 02:29:45 PM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 21, 2022, 11:59:09 AM

Quote from: Escooter on February 21, 2022, 08:24:15 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 20, 2022, 09:12:41 PM

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Quote from: Escooter on February 20, 2022, 04:47:11 PM

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I'm from Melbourne man. The last deck I got was a darkstar Ryan decenzo from surfstich for cheap on special and I thought it would be good, because he tre'd that set Malto nosegrinded in pretty sweet. Sadly I cracked it first session with a kicky. I know it sometimes happens as I didn't land bolts.

I'd say I'm intermediate skill level really keen to get back into it and I want to find a good 8.3" board.  maybe a "pro" board will be better investing in but I thought the darkstar would last. I'm not sure about boards with fibre in them as I've never skated one. I would like good quality maple though.
Cheers

[close]

Easy - at least now I know where things are at.

I used to find that some boards that were too new and stiff would be more likely to break within the first few sessions and those Dwindle boards sure are super stiff, but any board can break easily enough, if a heavy landing is just in the wrong spot, eg snapping the tail off most commonly.

Surfstitch does have some pretty good deals, with lots of discounted sales on decent product.  Kind of funny you ask about 8.3 sizes as that is the most common size a number of people I know ride (one who bought them all from Surfstitch in the most recent 40% off sale) but I think there was still one impact light board on there too in 8.375 size, maybe more now if they have restocked.  That would take a bit more of a beating and last through heavy landings, so maybe worth a try if it goes on another sale, which will most likely happen sooner or later.

As for other boards in roughly 8.3 size, that is 8.375 or 8.38 which are pretty much the same thing, all just a hair under 8.5 really, but there can be some significant differences in shapes, some longer and some shorter.

There are almost too many options, but if you are after cheaper / sale boards, there are a few places that have some good sales on right now, which you could try, who I know have some 8.3 sized boards in stock, as I was looking last week.

I can send you a whole list easily enough, rather than putting them all up here, but a few online shops worth checking out include Boarders (Sydney), Kingpin (ebay stores with current 15% discounts), Boardworld, OCD and a few more.*


*  That is if you are not keen or unable to go into a skate shop to stand on boards.

[close]

I'm going to go to fast times when I have the money and as the other guy said give some boards a feel. They let you stand on the board in the shop right? Will they let you carpet skate, even just an Ollie? Let the wand choose the wizard so to speak.

I'm currently in a psych ward and iv become quite spiritual and figured out I have an affinity with sugar maple or skateboards. Funny it's not baseball? But they never actually break their bats that often anyway.

Anyone interested should check out totems and pay more attention to the animals they affiliate with and the ones that present themselves. Plants can be totems also, why not? I guess they are also organic after all?

I think we all skate for a reason anyway? I don't know why it has something to do with the effort and sacrifice, in more ways then one and for multiple reasons. I don't know why but we are drawn to these useless wooden toys even if we get beat up trying some fancy movements, we still triumph.

Anyway there is some girl with a possessed porcelain doll in here, so let's hope I make it out with no monkeys on my back.

And no I'm not a jedi wannabe and don't believe that danny gonzalez stole my magic because I did a tre flip foot plant first hahaha even though he's older then me. Like I still have my head in reality, just a tad wrapped, like old mates hookups deck his parents threw in his backyard.(real story)

Anyway, enough voodoo. Thanks for the info. Prey to Satan \m/

"I kickflipped melon grabbed wallenburg first where are my royalties danny?"

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You must really have nothing better to do. It would be one thing if it was funny, but it's not. Go fuck yourself.

Is my misfortune more sad then funny? I prefer to look at the lighter side. I'll f myself while staring at a sigil of "please send me the powers of the jedi" I need to learn noseblunts without a sheet of acid.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Escooter on February 21, 2022, 05:11:21 PM

Xens in the building.... that guy looked down at me for wearing a jumper that my grandmother gifted me in his shop. How xen. Also questioned my mate for wearing a matt Hoffman tshirt and my mate simply replied "do you want my money or not?" He shut his mouth quick smart lol

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on February 21, 2022, 07:37:30 PM

Has anyone taken a look at those $25 Heart Supply boards on skate warehouse? Are those still dwindle or shitty target wood?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2022, 08:01:06 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on February 21, 2022, 07:37:30 PM

Has anyone taken a look at those $25 Heart Supply boards on skate warehouse? Are those still dwindle or shitty target wood?

The boards are almost certainly made in China.

The single nail dot in the front bolt area is consistent with a number of other boards from China that many companies are using, those of which I have stood on and occasionally skated seemed fine to me, definitely not cheap crap if that is what you were asking.

As to how long they last or the concave on those boards, they look to be ok for a $25 board.

It is interesting that some of the boards seem to have started as $50 "pro board prices" but are all now $25 so who knows what is going on there.

Also when looking through, they always have the top, sides and graphic pics, which have close ups, so I can see some have Dwindle tops (normal price boards), even impact light constructions on the more expensive decks, then others have the blank tops with the single nail dot (cheaper boards).

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/The_Heart_Supply_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKHEARTSUPP.html


Dwindle top

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Heart_Supply_Cosmic_Checker_Deck_825_x_32/descpage-THSCKRDK.html


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=THSCKRDK-2.jpg)


Blank nail dot top (and all red tops which was annoying)


(https://i.ibb.co/VWz08qL/China-deck-dot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ynZmJQN)

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=THSSQXW85DK-2.jpg)

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=THSSQXW85DK-3.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 21, 2022, 08:25:54 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 21, 2022, 08:01:06 PM

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Has anyone taken a look at those $25 Heart Supply boards on skate warehouse? Are those still dwindle or shitty target wood?

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It is interesting that some of the boards seem to have started as $50 "pro board prices" but are all now $25 so who knows what is going on there.

It’s the SW Presidents’ Day sale. My guess is since heartsupply boards aren’t moving so they’re just gonna clearance them out.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 22, 2022, 01:20:52 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 21, 2022, 08:25:54 PM

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Has anyone taken a look at those $25 Heart Supply boards on skate warehouse? Are those still dwindle or shitty target wood?

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It is interesting that some of the boards seem to have started as $50 "pro board prices" but are all now $25 so who knows what is going on there.

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It’s the SW Presidents’ Day sale. My guess is since heartsupply boards aren’t moving so they’re just gonna clearance them out.

I might have seen the email for that, but I have been super busy with other things.

I think you are right with the boards not moving.  Seemed like the only people who really wanted them were kids who didn't know anything about the company and just liked the graphic, from people I have seen riding them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 22, 2022, 01:27:19 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 21, 2022, 08:25:54 PM

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Has anyone taken a look at those $25 Heart Supply boards on skate warehouse? Are those still dwindle or shitty target wood?

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It is interesting that some of the boards seem to have started as $50 "pro board prices" but are all now $25 so who knows what is going on there.

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It’s the SW Presidents’ Day sale. My guess is since heartsupply boards aren’t moving so they’re just gonna clearance them out.

Yeah at some point they're just taking up space and SW is one of the few places moving enough volume to sell a few dozen boards at cost without it mattering.

No idea what the wood is, I'd have to have it in front of me. HS has used prime in the past and they were definitely been pumping out $30 blanks pre-pandemic. That's actually what the last prime deck I really skated was. Some have the alignment divot (mine did), some don't....same with the u5 stamp. There's a lack of consistency with prime stuff that makes it hard to ID. It could be PGI as well, the stain is right but the mold looks a little weird.

All that being said Schillereff has been doing this for a long, long time and I'm sure has one of the deepest rolodexes in the industry so he's probably getting good China wood (like PGI) if that's what he's getting. I wouldn't have huge expectations but I also wouldn't be scared to buy one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on February 23, 2022, 02:10:14 PM

This just popped up on my radar - new wood shop out of Missoula .

Wouldshop - https://wouldshopskates.bigcartel.com
https://www.instagram.com/wouldshopskates/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUeZ2P4r02h/



My local just started selling Schnar Skates which are pressed by them.

https://shnarskateboards.bigcartel.com

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 23, 2022, 04:39:33 PM

Just added a few more including Dutch brand Gentlemen Skateboards to the list.

This setup looks pretty good too - second and third pics from the first post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CY_nGnssyUv/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWbAUlos6T1/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on February 23, 2022, 04:42:55 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 23, 2022, 04:39:33 PM

Just added a few more including Dutch brand Gentlemen Skateboards to the list.

This setup looks pretty good too - second and third pics from the first post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CY_nGnssyUv/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWbAUlos6T1/

That dark green top is talking to me

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 23, 2022, 05:07:35 PM

Quote from: backinaction on February 23, 2022, 02:10:14 PM

This just popped up on my radar - new wood shop out of Missoula .

Wouldshop - https://wouldshopskates.bigcartel.com
https://www.instagram.com/wouldshopskates/

My local just started selling Schnar Skates which are pressed by them.

https://shnarskateboards.bigcartel.com

Thanks - added to the list.

I don't know why but I thought I had added Wouldshop to the list before, but I guess I hadn't so at least it is on there now, as well as the Shnar Skateboards brand too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 23, 2022, 05:09:26 PM

Quote from: Ok on February 23, 2022, 04:42:55 PM

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Just added a few more including Dutch brand Gentlemen Skateboards to the list.

This setup looks pretty good too - second and third pics from the first post:

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That dark green top is talking to me

Ha yeah, glad I am not the only one.

When I saw it, I thought I had to post that pic as well.

The stain is nice in person too - had a few boards from Clutch in the shop a while back and some had that as the bottom too, with minimal graphic, so I was sad to see that go when it did finally sell.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on February 24, 2022, 07:56:45 PM

I genuinely apologize for asking so many questions, but I was definitely under the impression Chapman were using clutch blanks as their wood. I only ask because I was chatting with a Christian skateboard brand and they assured me their decks were Chapman as of 2022. When I mentioned I had heard Chapman were using Clutch wood, they told me that “to their knowledge” that that wasn’t the case. Are Chapman lying to customers or is this board brand claiming something that’s not true?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 24, 2022, 10:05:45 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on February 24, 2022, 07:56:45 PM

I genuinely apologize for asking so many questions, but I was definitely under the impression Chapman were using clutch blanks as their wood. I only ask because I was chatting with a Christian skateboard brand and they assured me their decks were Chapman as of 2022. When I mentioned I had heard Chapman were using Clutch wood, they told me that “to their knowledge” that that wasn’t the case. Are Chapman lying to customers or is this board brand claiming something that’s not true?

Ask away!

No matter how many questions or what you ask, at least someone should be able to give a good answer.


As to the who is using what wood, the simple fact that Chapman sold their presses so now they are really only a heat transfer distributor, so they buy in decks from elsewhere and don't actually make any of their own at all.

That is really all that I know to be fact from that situation.


The best thing to do is check the top of any boards that come from them, and see if there are any marks on the deck itself, even though someone had said they had seen Clutch boards with out the letter / number stamp, that is the easist way to see if they are from Clutch.  Same as the green stained board a few posts above, or the Clutch pics on the first page.

Regardless of what woodshop they may or may not be using, if they skate well, then you are good to go.  If you don't like the way the boards skate, that is more reason to find out a bit more about where the boards come from, so you can avoid it in the future, but being able to see what is on the top of the board is the best start.


What I am seeing more often is "unknown wood" often with the single nail top, or a generic size laser stamp on a lot of boards between the bolts, which is almost always something from China, but it also seems they hold up well enough, so it is not a cause for concern as some people once used to think.


The only other thing I can think is if a deck has a "Made in..." sticker, but most of the smaller brands now do not if they are blanks that are just going to be used with heat transfer graphics and shrink wrapped for whatever brand the distributor or company wants to put on them.

Eg "Made in Australia" stickers from one company are just heat transfers done in house here in AU on boards pressed in China, along with some other well known bigger ones with clearly displayed "Made in USA" when the boards are pressed in Mexico and another in China, then heat transferred in USA.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 26, 2022, 01:19:29 AM

Quote from: ish_wav on February 24, 2022, 07:56:45 PM

I genuinely apologize for asking so many questions, but I was definitely under the impression Chapman were using clutch blanks as their wood. I only ask because I was chatting with a Christian skateboard brand and they assured me their decks were Chapman as of 2022. When I mentioned I had heard Chapman were using Clutch wood, they told me that “to their knowledge” that that wasn’t the case. Are Chapman lying to customers or is this board brand claiming something that’s not true?

Its not that they're lying, they don't publicize it and if you don't ask they're not just going to tell you. Chapman pressed boards for a long time, so most people assume they still do. I'm guessing that technically the "to their knowledge" is correct, but only because they never asked.

But yes, Chapman doesn't even own a woodshop anymore.. Unless they've changed suppliers in the past few months they're clutch and have been for years. The decks even have the ASF shape/size code stamps. Doesn't mean that they're bad and I remember Chapman wood as not being particularly good so if anything it's an upgrade in my book. It's the same business model that most US deck "manufacturers" use, not a lot of US places actually press wood at a commercial level.

There's a lot of outdated and/or incorrect assumptions that get made even by company owners. I know we've all seen a shop or brand advertising their "Made in the USA" generator deck (happens a lot with clutch too) despite the wood coming from Mexico. I think a lot of the time they call a US number and talk to an American and the return address on the box is from California so they assume the boards are made here too. Believe it or not this thread, while far from perfect, is one of the best and most up to date resources you'll find in terms of who presses what.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 26, 2022, 01:27:54 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 23, 2022, 05:09:26 PM

Quote from: Ok on February 23, 2022, 04:42:55 PM

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Just added a few more including Dutch brand Gentlemen Skateboards to the list.

This setup looks pretty good too - second and third pics from the first post:

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That dark green top is talking to me

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Ha yeah, glad I am not the only one.

When I saw it, I thought I had to post that pic as well.

The stain is nice in person too - had a few boards from Clutch in the shop a while back and some had that as the bottom too, with minimal graphic, so I was sad to see that go when it did finally sell.

The clutch dark green is pretty unique and you can actually kinda ID boards just from it alone. My favorite clutch deck was a coda O shape with a green top. Their red is usually pretty easy to spot too... It's more towards the orange side than most, so if you see a beautiful deep cherry ply then you know it's not a clutch deck haha.

Here's the press stamps from the prime deck I just got. All the ones I've had or handled had the alignment divot but only like half had the size/mold stamp. They also have a heritage logo one that they use on reissues.


https://i.imgur.com/TIKJiIQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AHCWwQH.jpg

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 26, 2022, 02:21:46 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on February 26, 2022, 01:27:54 AM

Here's the press stamps from the prime deck I just got. All the ones I've had or handled had the alignment divot but only like half had the size/mold stamp. They also have a heritage logo one that they use on reissues.

Thanks for those pics.

Was the dot at the front bolts area and the size at the back?

I seem to recall something like that.


Edit:

Found your old post I had added to the pic references on the first page, so added to that.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729125#msg3729125

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 28, 2022, 07:59:14 PM

Still haven’t been able to identify these decks with the fucking 2. But this is a world industries board I saw on the shop wall.



(https://i.imgur.com/HK5pn5a.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on February 28, 2022, 09:00:47 PM

What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on February 28, 2022, 10:59:37 PM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on February 28, 2022, 09:00:47 PM

What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on February 28, 2022, 11:17:31 PM

This question’s a bit random, but in Austyn Gillette nineclub he says he gets his boards direct from PSstix because his step dad is the ceo - so he just gets his shape 8.25. When Austyn used to be on Habitat they were PS, 3D used PS, and wknd use PS - so Austyn shape would have been ps in the lineup.

Now he’s back on Habitat, which is now BBS for promodels (right?), so Austyn pro ps board is actually not for sale and you can’t buy what he skates (given he has stuck with the same shape for 10 years and the same wood that whole time).

TLDR: is Austyn actual pro-spec board 8.25 psstixx for sale in shops?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on March 01, 2022, 12:06:55 AM

Quote from: Paul_Glider Skateboards on February 28, 2022, 10:59:37 PM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on February 28, 2022, 09:00:47 PM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

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Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Paul_Glider Skateboards on March 01, 2022, 08:12:11 AM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on March 01, 2022, 12:06:55 AM

Quote from: Paul_Glider Skateboards on February 28, 2022, 10:59:37 PM

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Quote from: FuzzGNU on February 28, 2022, 09:00:47 PM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

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Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

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Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

1. Factories have the dimensions. Shoot em an email and they can send all the info you’re looking for

2. I believe they’re ps or bbs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 01, 2022, 10:18:17 AM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on March 01, 2022, 12:06:55 AM

Quote from: Paul_Glider Skateboards on February 28, 2022, 10:59:37 PM

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Quote from: FuzzGNU on February 28, 2022, 09:00:47 PM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

[close]

Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

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Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

I have a few Pennswood decks in some of the “specialty” molds if you’re curious what they look like (one 8.25 steep concave, and an 8.0 and 8.375 with kicks that have kind of a curl to them rather than your classic, flat-ish paddle-style kicks). I’m sure you can contact them for a list of their standard shapes and dimensions. They’re really good boards.

I also have a couple 5boro decks from South Central and can confirm the quality of those as well. The 8.25 is probably my favorite single deck out there.

Not sure what pricing is like, but those two make great stuff. Seems like Pennswood is a little more of a stiff feel, South Central maybe a little more springy, at least to me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 02:57:50 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 28, 2022, 07:59:14 PM

Still haven’t been able to identify these decks with the fucking 2. But this is a world industries board I saw on the shop wall.



(https://i.imgur.com/HK5pn5a.jpg)

We were flooded in and without internet for a while, but seems everything is back and ok now.

As for that board, it is the same as a Studio (Control) with the number stamp on it, so although I hadn't seen the Made in sticker quite like that, at least it makes sense - Control from Canada and another board with those same stamps.


It is interesting World Industries is back although not exactly sure in what form and seems like it is owned or run by no one connected with the original company, but they are trying and seem like they are doing well enough, from what I did see of the brand.

You could say they are just another heat transfer company, putting their own graphics on whatever wood they can get, going by this clip though.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ1z9BVgDs9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVdlAQcLruG/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 04:04:23 AM

Quote from: disappointed on February 28, 2022, 11:17:31 PM

This question’s a bit random, but in Austyn Gillette nineclub he says he gets his boards direct from PSstix because his step dad is the ceo - so he just gets his shape 8.25. When Austyn used to be on Habitat they were PS, 3D used PS, and wknd use PS - so Austyn shape would have been ps in the lineup.

Now he’s back on Habitat, which is now BBS for promodels (right?), so Austyn pro ps board is actually not for sale and you can’t buy what he skates (given he has stuck with the same shape for 10 years and the same wood that whole time).

TLDR: is Austyn actual pro-spec board 8.25 psstixx for sale in shops?

What are the specs of what he rides?

I don't really follow Austyn but had a bit of a look at some recent things.

His more recent clips which clearly show his board look pretty standard, steeper nose, more mellow tail, but I know some people would say that is typical PS Stix.

As to what pro guys ride, many do have very specific shapes and even specific woodshops, which might be different from their team mates or what the brand puts out, which used to be more the case back a while ago when pro riders weren't so happy with the lesser board quality of some woodshops, but I guess in this case it could very easily still be happening.

As to the specifics of his board, I don't know, but there are a few of his boards on here as well as around the place too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3573967#msg3573967

Habitat Austyn Gillette 8.25 with a length at 31.5 measured tip to tip and a 14.5 WB



Do I recall something about a specific shape in the WKND catalog being for him?

There are three different 8.25 boards there.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1014/3147/products/2022-board-size-chart-big-01_0387949e-3031-4295-8a4f-f4d96c93a82b_2048x2048.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on March 02, 2022, 04:59:27 AM

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The 8.375NH shape sounds interesting from the dimensions listed. Whatever the hell NH stands for anyways...

Big size difference between nose and tail. Nice width. 14 inch wheelbase. Interesting...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on March 02, 2022, 05:03:39 AM

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This question’s a bit random, but in Austyn Gillette nineclub he says he gets his boards direct from PSstix because his step dad is the ceo - so he just gets his shape 8.25. When Austyn used to be on Habitat they were PS, 3D used PS, and wknd use PS - so Austyn shape would have been ps in the lineup.

Now he’s back on Habitat, which is now BBS for promodels (right?), so Austyn pro ps board is actually not for sale and you can’t buy what he skates (given he has stuck with the same shape for 10 years and the same wood that whole time).

TLDR: is Austyn actual pro-spec board 8.25 psstixx for sale in shops?

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What are the specs of what he rides?

I don't really follow Austyn but had a bit of a look at some recent things.

His more recent clips which clearly show his board look pretty standard, steeper nose, more mellow tail, but I know some people would say that is typical PS Stix.

As to what pro guys ride, many do have very specific shapes and even specific woodshops, which might be different from their team mates or what the brand puts out, which used to be more the case back a while ago when pro riders weren't so happy with the lesser board quality of some woodshops, but I guess in this case it could very easily still be happening.

As to the specifics of his board, I don't know, but there are a few of his boards on here as well as around the place too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3573967#msg3573967

Habitat Austyn Gillette 8.25 with a length at 31.5 measured tip to tip and a 14.5 WB



Do I recall something about a specific shape in the WKND catalog being for him?

There are three different 8.25 boards there.


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Cheers Mark, my question was probably pretty silly, but you’ve given a very thorough answer anyways, thanks! I think I was a bit sleep deprived when I wrote that, as it’s not really that surprising that a brand isn’t selling the specific pro board, instead they’re selling the shape but from a different woodshop. Yes, I did work out also, his board spec are 8.25/31.5/14.5. I think I just twigged with hearing PSstixx, short deck, long wheelbase, and wondered if Habitat/Austyn released PS boards for him due to his connection with PS. 8.25 is huge for me, but the shortboard/long wheelbase is perfect, so maybe I’d pick one up as a cruiser if they were PS.....but seems they are not.

Seeing as you are an expert with these things, I’ve got an Jason Adams Elephant PSdeck cruiser that I have ridden to death - it’s 31.3 long with a 14.5 wheelbase, and its about 8.25 but tapers way down to 8 at the back trucks. Any ideas for any PS boards that are shaped or something twitchy with a long wheelbase/short board that are available? Do you know if any of the polar boards are like this shape (with short board/long wheelbase) if there are no PS options. Thanks for this thread!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2022, 05:26:14 AM

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The 8.375NH shape sounds interesting from the dimensions listed. Whatever the hell NH stands for anyways...

Big size difference between nose and tail. Nice width. 14 inch wheelbase. Interesting...

Damn that 8.38 does look enticing, but WKND measures their length flat across, so it's probably closer to an 31.6. Still an interesting dimension for a 8.38.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 05:32:55 AM

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Cheers Mark, my question was probably pretty silly, but you’ve given a very thorough answer anyways, thanks! I think I was a bit sleep deprived when I wrote that, as it’s not really that surprising that a brand isn’t selling the specific pro board, instead they’re selling the shape but from a different woodshop. Yes, I did work out also, his board spec are 8.25/31.5/14.5. I think I just twigged with hearing PSstixx, short deck, long wheelbase, and wondered if Habitat/Austyn released PS boards for him due to his connection with PS. 8.25 is huge for me, but the shortboard/long wheelbase is perfect, so maybe I’d pick one up as a cruiser if they were PS.....but seems they are not.

Seeing as you are an expert with these things, I’ve got an Jason Adams Elephant PSdeck cruiser that I have ridden to death - it’s 31.3 long with a 14.5 wheelbase, and its about 8.25 but tapers way down to 8 at the back trucks. Any ideas for any PS boards that are shaped or something twitchy with a long wheelbase/short board that are available? Do you know if any of the polar boards are like this shape (with short board/long wheelbase) if there are no PS options. Thanks for this thread!

Ha all good!!!

I am just jumping back in after being without phone and internet for the short while (only a couple of days) and thinking I have lots to catch up on, but really it is nothing compared to what so many others have been going through, eg we are flooded in, not flooded out, so we are still fine and dry here.

As to his specific shape, that was the board that someone had from the setup thread from last year, so maybe it is out and about somewhere still, as I do recall seeing some boards were PS Stix and some were BBS at one point.


About that other board, it is a weird one, as not too many would have those dimensions, so I would be more inclined to check the nose and tail measurements and then even find something that had the right wheelbase that you could trim down, as a worst case scenario. 

I think that would be better than getting a smaller board and drilling the wheelbase out, but now I think about it, that might not be such a bad idea anyway, eg get a shape you like and drill the nose out longer, so you still have a normal tail on it.  Drilling the wheelbase out sometimes makes a nose or tail feel really weird though, so just beware of that too.

Just thoughts anyway, but I know my DLX 8.38 boards have 14.5 wb and they don't feel overly long, same as Baker and other brands that use that shape too, but they could be trimmed down.  If you were closer to S E QLD, you could have one of my old ones to chop up.

That Adams board would be a special one off nowdays.  There are a few other Elephant Brand decks getting round, but they are on whatever wood they could get at the time (not something I would want to ride anyway) after the company changed to who they are under now.

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Post by: Woodshop on March 02, 2022, 07:59:30 PM

After seeing a Slouch deck in the setup thread the other day, I looked them up and asked about their wood.

Nice to talk to and stoked to have mention of their product too, so another one to add to the list.


Slouch Skateboards = Woodchuck

Board sizes from 7.75 up to 8.5 and everything in between.


From their Instagram page:


Slouch Skateboards
Local service
A BRAND YOU CAN’T TRUST
https://slouchskateboards.bigcartel.com/
https://www.instagram.com/slouchskateboards/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkJKY1P3K4/

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Slouch Skateboards 8.25 x 31.875 Wheelbase 14.25
Old Indy standard 149s (I'm going to try some Ace AF1 55 once these trucks are done)
Loopholes wheels Jameel Douglas 54mm

Loving this board. Second one in a row.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on March 03, 2022, 02:12:01 AM

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Cheers Mark, my question was probably pretty silly, but you’ve given a very thorough answer anyways, thanks! I think I was a bit sleep deprived when I wrote that, as it’s not really that surprising that a brand isn’t selling the specific pro board, instead they’re selling the shape but from a different woodshop. Yes, I did work out also, his board spec are 8.25/31.5/14.5. I think I just twigged with hearing PSstixx, short deck, long wheelbase, and wondered if Habitat/Austyn released PS boards for him due to his connection with PS. 8.25 is huge for me, but the shortboard/long wheelbase is perfect, so maybe I’d pick one up as a cruiser if they were PS.....but seems they are not.

Seeing as you are an expert with these things, I’ve got an Jason Adams Elephant PSdeck cruiser that I have ridden to death - it’s 31.3 long with a 14.5 wheelbase, and its about 8.25 but tapers way down to 8 at the back trucks. Any ideas for any PS boards that are shaped or something twitchy with a long wheelbase/short board that are available? Do you know if any of the polar boards are like this shape (with short board/long wheelbase) if there are no PS options. Thanks for this thread!

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Ha all good!!!

I am just jumping back in after being without phone and internet for the short while (only a couple of days) and thinking I have lots to catch up on, but really it is nothing compared to what so many others have been going through, eg we are flooded in, not flooded out, so we are still fine and dry here.

As to his specific shape, that was the board that someone had from the setup thread from last year, so maybe it is out and about somewhere still, as I do recall seeing some boards were PS Stix and some were BBS at one point.


About that other board, it is a weird one, as not too many would have those dimensions, so I would be more inclined to check the nose and tail measurements and then even find something that had the right wheelbase that you could trim down, as a worst case scenario. 

I think that would be better than getting a smaller board and drilling the wheelbase out, but now I think about it, that might not be such a bad idea anyway, eg get a shape you like and drill the nose out longer, so you still have a normal tail on it.  Drilling the wheelbase out sometimes makes a nose or tail feel really weird though, so just beware of that too.

Just thoughts anyway, but I know my DLX 8.38 boards have 14.5 wb and they don't feel overly long, same as Baker and other brands that use that shape too, but they could be trimmed down.  If you were closer to S E QLD, you could have one of my old ones to chop up.

That Adams board would be a special one off nowdays.  There are a few other Elephant Brand decks getting round, but they are on whatever wood they could get at the time (not something I would want to ride anyway) after the company changed to who they are under now.

Good suggestions, cheers! I think that trimming down the nose/tail on a long wheelbase is a bit outside my ability - but i reckon drilling out the wheelbase on a shorter deck might just work!! I’ve got a girl deck that fell into my hands, it’s 8.125 (g023) 31.6 and 14 wb, so barely used it cos it was all wrong for me...but I’m gonna get drilling and max out the wheelbase closer to 15.  I’ve also been curious about chewy palace dimensions 31.13/8.375/14.84, but not enough to buy one (and too wide), so my new girl cruiser might be the answer! It’ll be 31.66/8.125/15wb!! Fuck it, Worth a try! (Thats drilling out the nose and tail 1/2 inch each, so i can always just leave the tail truck as is for 14.5wb - options ;D)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 06:33:07 AM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

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Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

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Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

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I have a few Pennswood decks in some of the “specialty” molds if you’re curious what they look like (one 8.25 steep concave, and an 8.0 and 8.375 with kicks that have kind of a curl to them rather than your classic, flat-ish paddle-style kicks). I’m sure you can contact them for a list of their standard shapes and dimensions. They’re really good boards.

I also have a couple 5boro decks from South Central and can confirm the quality of those as well. The 8.25 is probably my favorite single deck out there.

Not sure what pricing is like, but those two make great stuff. Seems like Pennswood is a little more of a stiff feel, South Central maybe a little more springy, at least to me.

I had been meaning to ask, but I kept getting busy and didn't come back, but regarding concave, I know some woodshops copy other specific molds or shapes from existing woodshops that a rider or company might want to replicate (insert Primitive here maybe?*) but as they were on BBS which has a spoon like concave in the kicks, was this what you were referring to with the "curl" before, or have you skated a BBS board and compared concave to this one?

Although it is no secret really, there are a lot of "secrets and whispers" around this industry regarding who uses what wood, or from which woodshop someone got their boards or whatever, but I know it is also very easy to copy molds and make something similar, which has been done here in AU as well.  How it rides might be a whole different thing though, but that side of it I really don't worry about, as I am not in any position to "shop around" for a better deal or supply on boards as I don't have my own company and don't intend to ride anything other than what I like and can easily get here.

I am always interested in skateboard related things, which is why I wanted to ask.

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Post by: intendedreceivers on March 04, 2022, 07:22:01 AM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

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Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

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Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

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I have a few Pennswood decks in some of the “specialty” molds if you’re curious what they look like (one 8.25 steep concave, and an 8.0 and 8.375 with kicks that have kind of a curl to them rather than your classic, flat-ish paddle-style kicks). I’m sure you can contact them for a list of their standard shapes and dimensions. They’re really good boards.

I also have a couple 5boro decks from South Central and can confirm the quality of those as well. The 8.25 is probably my favorite single deck out there.

Not sure what pricing is like, but those two make great stuff. Seems like Pennswood is a little more of a stiff feel, South Central maybe a little more springy, at least to me.

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I had been meaning to ask, but I kept getting busy and didn't come back, but regarding concave, I know some woodshops copy other specific molds or shapes from existing woodshops that a rider or company might want to replicate (insert Primitive here maybe?*) but as they were on BBS which has a spoon like concave in the kicks, was this what you were referring to with the "curl" before, or have you skated a BBS board and compared concave to this one?

Although it is no secret really, there are a lot of "secrets and whispers" around this industry regarding who uses what wood, or from which woodshop someone got their boards or whatever, but I know it is also very easy to copy molds and make something similar, which has been done here in AU as well.  How it rides might be a whole different thing though, but that side of it I really don't worry about, as I am not in any position to "shop around" for a better deal or supply on boards as I don't have my own company and don't intend to ride anything other than what I like and can easily get here.

I am always interested in skateboard related things, which is why I wanted to ask.

It looks like they have a little concave across the width of the kicks like the “spoon” style kicks, but the curl is very noticeable along the length of the kicks. Makes them look very short and high. Not sure what it’s gonna skate like to be honest. I’ll get a photo when I can.

EDIT—Tried to attach a low-res photo of their standard tail (on the steep mold, but a paddle like their normal shapes) next to the curly one. Makes it very square/snubby on the overhead view. I'll try to get some better images when I get a minute to create an account with an image host.

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Post by: TwisT on March 04, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

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Still haven’t been able to identify these decks with the fucking 2. But this is a world industries board I saw on the shop wall.



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We were flooded in and without internet for a while, but seems everything is back and ok now.

As for that board, it is the same as a Studio (Control) with the number stamp on it, so although I hadn't seen the Made in sticker quite like that, at least it makes sense - Control from Canada and another board with those same stamps.


It is interesting World Industries is back although not exactly sure in what form and seems like it is owned or run by no one connected with the original company, but they are trying and seem like they are doing well enough, from what I did see of the brand.

from what I can tell the only the world name, logo, flameboy, wetwilly & devil man, are licensed out, with Dwindle keeping the rest of the library for other products.

Also, is it safe to make the assumption that the raw blanks I got from blankdecks.com with the same 2 stamp came from control? The last control board I got was from TGM, it was point with a mellow concave and a shorter wheelbase., no stamp, but the control sticker. This one had an 14..25 base with flat concave.

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Post by: Carter on March 04, 2022, 01:14:38 PM

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The 8.375NH shape sounds interesting from the dimensions listed. Whatever the hell NH stands for anyways...

Big size difference between nose and tail. Nice width. 14 inch wheelbase. Interesting...

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Damn that 8.38 does look enticing, but WKND measures their length flat across, so it's probably closer to an 31.6. Still an interesting dimension for a 8.38.

idk if all those dimensions are correct... for me its a good thing I've been skating the 8.25 ct shape. its 31.25 not 31.6 length. short boards for the win!

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Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:25:47 PM

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Cheers Mark, my question was probably pretty silly, but you’ve given a very thorough answer anyways, thanks! I think I was a bit sleep deprived when I wrote that, as it’s not really that surprising that a brand isn’t selling the specific pro board, instead they’re selling the shape but from a different woodshop. Yes, I did work out also, his board spec are 8.25/31.5/14.5. I think I just twigged with hearing PSstixx, short deck, long wheelbase, and wondered if Habitat/Austyn released PS boards for him due to his connection with PS. 8.25 is huge for me, but the shortboard/long wheelbase is perfect, so maybe I’d pick one up as a cruiser if they were PS.....but seems they are not.

Seeing as you are an expert with these things, I’ve got an Jason Adams Elephant PSdeck cruiser that I have ridden to death - it’s 31.3 long with a 14.5 wheelbase, and its about 8.25 but tapers way down to 8 at the back trucks. Any ideas for any PS boards that are shaped or something twitchy with a long wheelbase/short board that are available? Do you know if any of the polar boards are like this shape (with short board/long wheelbase) if there are no PS options. Thanks for this thread!

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Ha all good!!!

I am just jumping back in after being without phone and internet for the short while (only a couple of days) and thinking I have lots to catch up on, but really it is nothing compared to what so many others have been going through, eg we are flooded in, not flooded out, so we are still fine and dry here.

As to his specific shape, that was the board that someone had from the setup thread from last year, so maybe it is out and about somewhere still, as I do recall seeing some boards were PS Stix and some were BBS at one point.


About that other board, it is a weird one, as not too many would have those dimensions, so I would be more inclined to check the nose and tail measurements and then even find something that had the right wheelbase that you could trim down, as a worst case scenario. 

I think that would be better than getting a smaller board and drilling the wheelbase out, but now I think about it, that might not be such a bad idea anyway, eg get a shape you like and drill the nose out longer, so you still have a normal tail on it.  Drilling the wheelbase out sometimes makes a nose or tail feel really weird though, so just beware of that too.

Just thoughts anyway, but I know my DLX 8.38 boards have 14.5 wb and they don't feel overly long, same as Baker and other brands that use that shape too, but they could be trimmed down.  If you were closer to S E QLD, you could have one of my old ones to chop up.

That Adams board would be a special one off nowdays.  There are a few other Elephant Brand decks getting round, but they are on whatever wood they could get at the time (not something I would want to ride anyway) after the company changed to who they are under now.

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Good suggestions, cheers! I think that trimming down the nose/tail on a long wheelbase is a bit outside my ability - but i reckon drilling out the wheelbase on a shorter deck might just work!! I’ve got a girl deck that fell into my hands, it’s 8.125 (g023) 31.6 and 14 wb, so barely used it cos it was all wrong for me...but I’m gonna get drilling and max out the wheelbase closer to 15.  I’ve also been curious about chewy palace dimensions 31.13/8.375/14.84, but not enough to buy one (and too wide), so my new girl cruiser might be the answer! It’ll be 31.66/8.125/15wb!! Fuck it, Worth a try! (Thats drilling out the nose and tail 1/2 inch each, so i can always just leave the tail truck as is for 14.5wb - options ;D)

Check out this cut down job, from the WBSWB thread:

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Had a gifted 9.0 I wanted to chop down. Was pretty massive with 15"WB/N:7.25"/T:7", with straight across measurement nose to tail at 33". Chems tooled rhe nose and tail, leaving 14.25"WB and more fingers of flat. Cut the nose and tail down and re-shaped. Nose is now a smidge over 7" and tail at a little under 7".  Now measures a little under 32.4" ish.

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That thing looks good - I would be interested in seeing a side view with concave with deck bolts sitting in the new holes.


As it is BBS, it would feel a little more comfortable too than some other brands with a more defined point between the flat middle of the board and the sharp angle of the kicks.

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Here ya go...about 3 fingers flat each side. I ride 56-58mm wheels and have old legs, so mellowness is OK for me
(https://i.ibb.co/Q6KFq1q/IMG-20220304-164711022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Q6KFq1q)(https://i.ibb.co/b5NFpxs/IMG-20220304-164736155.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b5NFpxs)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:40:49 PM

Quote from: TwisT on March 04, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

from what I can tell the only the world name, logo, flameboy, wetwilly & devil man, are licensed out, with Dwindle keeping the rest of the library for other products.

Also, is it safe to make the assumption that the raw blanks I got from blankdecks.com with the same 2 stamp came from control? The last control board I got was from TGM, it was point with a mellow concave and a shorter wheelbase., no stamp, but the control sticker. This one had an 14..25 base with flat concave.

Interesting about World Industries.  They seem like they are putting out a lot of boards, but all up it might not be that many when compared to other brands by today's standards.


Re that pic and boards with number stamps

I would most likely have to say yes, but I really don't know much about them.  There are different numbers stamped on the boards, at least those known to be from Control woodshop.

The one Studio deck I had was a 3 and there is a pic on the first page from Rocklobster with a 6 which is interesting, but I don't know what they mean, be it the press or the shape, or even something else.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729112#msg3729112

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:44:06 PM

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What do you guys consider the "2nd tier" of boards behind BBS and PS Stix?

I'm looking to get some of my own deck graphics made, but it doesn't seem like BBS and PS deal with smaller orders. It looks like South Central and Clutch are open to smaller batches, but I've never rode those before.

Any thoughts?

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Hit up Watson Laminates, Chapman, Control, Pennwood as well. Everyone I spoke with were nice, and the boards are all decent to good IMO. Not sure how bad the backlog is but turnaround times can vary drastically, so it can be very frustrating. Things are changing rapidly. There are also good factories overseas too that have worked with reputable brands as well. There are also mediocre factories in both the US + overseas so keep that in mind

I'd recommend getting samples from each board and have your own opinion. Expense it as a business expense, and you can also just use it as your set up to actually skate. These factories will provide them for you.

Stating the obvious but every skater has their own preference (mellow --> steep, shovel noses --> twin tails, short --> wide wb, etc.) so i'd consider this as well and figure what kind of shape you want to go to market with

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Wow! Thanks for the info Paul! I really appreciate it!

I've got a couple follow-up questions...

1) I've noticed Pennswood, Chapman, and Watson DON'T have their shapes listed on their website. Do they provide a graphical document about shape options? Do any of them only offer one shape?

2) Do you know off the top of your head which Woodshops offer the FA/Quasi style squared boards with shovel noses?

Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

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I have a few Pennswood decks in some of the “specialty” molds if you’re curious what they look like (one 8.25 steep concave, and an 8.0 and 8.375 with kicks that have kind of a curl to them rather than your classic, flat-ish paddle-style kicks). I’m sure you can contact them for a list of their standard shapes and dimensions. They’re really good boards.

I also have a couple 5boro decks from South Central and can confirm the quality of those as well. The 8.25 is probably my favorite single deck out there.

Not sure what pricing is like, but those two make great stuff. Seems like Pennswood is a little more of a stiff feel, South Central maybe a little more springy, at least to me.

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I had been meaning to ask, but I kept getting busy and didn't come back, but regarding concave, I know some woodshops copy other specific molds or shapes from existing woodshops that a rider or company might want to replicate (insert Primitive here maybe?*) but as they were on BBS which has a spoon like concave in the kicks, was this what you were referring to with the "curl" before, or have you skated a BBS board and compared concave to this one?

Although it is no secret really, there are a lot of "secrets and whispers" around this industry regarding who uses what wood, or from which woodshop someone got their boards or whatever, but I know it is also very easy to copy molds and make something similar, which has been done here in AU as well.  How it rides might be a whole different thing though, but that side of it I really don't worry about, as I am not in any position to "shop around" for a better deal or supply on boards as I don't have my own company and don't intend to ride anything other than what I like and can easily get here.

I am always interested in skateboard related things, which is why I wanted to ask.

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It looks like they have a little concave across the width of the kicks like the “spoon” style kicks, but the curl is very noticeable along the length of the kicks. Makes them look very short and high. Not sure what it’s gonna skate like to be honest. I’ll get a photo when I can.

EDIT—Tried to attach a low-res photo of their standard tail (on the steep mold, but a paddle like their normal shapes) next to the curly one. Makes it very square/snubby on the overhead view. I'll try to get some better images when I get a minute to create an account with an image host.

Thank you!

That sure is interesting to see.

Re pics, Slap has a built in option, which should be just below the type text box, to the left:

* Add image to post

Click on that and it will upload the image for you and add the link to the message, with no additional account or anything needed.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:47:27 PM

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The 8.375NH shape sounds interesting from the dimensions listed. Whatever the hell NH stands for anyways...

Big size difference between nose and tail. Nice width. 14 inch wheelbase. Interesting...

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Damn that 8.38 does look enticing, but WKND measures their length flat across, so it's probably closer to an 31.6. Still an interesting dimension for a 8.38.

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idk if all those dimensions are correct... for me its a good thing I've been skating the 8.25 ct shape. its 31.25 not 31.6 length. short boards for the win!

The thing with PS Stix decks is they are measured with the concave, so they will always be shorter when measured the more conventional way straight across, tip to tip.

Quite a few people have been caught off by that and some have definitely been unhappy, but once you are used to it, things are often a lot easier to work out, eg just take about half an inch off the total length and it will be about the same measure as everything else out there.

They definitely have quite a few options for the various shapes, but I forget what the initials stand for, apart from the short 8.5MP being Matt Price shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 07, 2022, 06:44:57 AM

if buying a habitat or AWS deck in Europe - how do I know if it’s from BBS or not ?

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Post by: LewFarrell on March 07, 2022, 08:54:27 AM

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if buying a habitat or AWS deck in Europe - how do I know if it’s from BBS or not ?

There's info on identifying woodshops on the first page of the thread but the general tell for BBS is the small divot in the top ply between the front truck holes.

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Post by: Solex on March 07, 2022, 01:56:46 PM

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There's info on identifying woodshops on the first page of the thread but the general tell for BBS is the small divot in the top ply between the front truck holes.

As a European guy I was wondering a few days ago if the Dwindle versions of the AWS boards were made in the same molds as the BBS ones, and the same question for the other brands that make their boards in different woodshop depending of the zone...

P.s : @Woodshop wonderful topic!

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Post by: rocklobster on March 07, 2022, 04:41:47 PM

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There's info on identifying woodshops on the first page of the thread but the general tell for BBS is the small divot in the top ply between the front truck holes.

In 2020-2021 I've seen some Habitat decks with the REGROWTH lasered on the top ply which is exclusive to DSM, haven't seen that since 2021 so it could have been a 1-time run during the woodshop shortage.

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Post by: Woodshop on March 07, 2022, 06:40:25 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 07, 2022, 06:44:57 AM

if buying a habitat or AWS deck in Europe - how do I know if it’s from BBS or not ?

They should have a warning sticker that will always say "Made in Mexico" on the deck, more so than anything else.

If it has "Made in China" then it is most likely from Dwindle, so check the size and shape, as some were wider and more blunt but most were more so the generic Dwindle shapes, from what others had said.


Check the last frame on this Instagram post for a close up of the Warning sticker (which should be viewable on here regardless of whether you have Instagram or not) but if that doesn't work, I can upload a pic of it on its own as well.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CU_gwMyhvkB/

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There's info on identifying woodshops on the first page of the thread but the general tell for BBS is the small divot in the top ply between the front truck holes.

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As a European guy I was wondering a few days ago if the Dwindle versions of the AWS boards were made in the same molds as the BBS ones, and the same question for the other brands that make their boards in different woodshop depending of the zone...

I have definitely heard some of the alternate woodshops did try to get their boards made to the same dimensions, and sizes, but even between different woodshops (who do not share shape info and specs and certainly do not share mold information) there were significant differences in concave too.


Example of this was the Uma Landsleds brand decks that were initially BBS and always going to be BBS but due to issues, had to be put out through Dwindle for here in AU and Asia too I think, before all the delayed BBS ones arrived and they might look the same but feel totally different in concave.

One of the guys I know got one (not BBS) and was wondering why it was just not comfortable, but I could feel it right away.  It definitely was not a BBS concave and he had not looked at the sticker which clearly had "Made in China" on it.

The company were not at all trying to hide it or confuse customers and were honest about it when asked, but I know some people felt ripped off.  I don't share those opinions though - read the fine print and stand on the board first if you can.


That said, I think things might have settled down a lot now since the 2020 issues with supply, covid shut downs and anything else that happened in that year.

Production seems back to normal for all the big suppliers, almost an excess of decks in skateshops right now actually, but always check the stickers and pics, ask the shop if they don't have anything up or details available and if you are not buying in person at the shop and if you are unsure, wait and buy from somewhere that does answer back, or can help you with information.

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Post by: Woodshop on March 08, 2022, 02:17:16 AM

From the setup thread:

Quote from: FakieDisaster on March 07, 2022, 08:30:58 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/V9gVkGx/IMG-2274.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fFkMTW9)

(https://i.ibb.co/ySKr7sx/IMG-2277.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8cGHt8Q)

(https://i.ibb.co/Hq39R66/IMG-2278.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VT5kbRR)

8x31.5 Hz deck, local brand (but actually 7 7/8" when i measured it)
Tensor MagLight 5.25 (somehow with non-mag baseplate & changed stock bushings with Indy hard black barrel bushings)
Spitfire 52mm F4 classics 101
Andale MJ bearings
Indy hex 1" hardware
Indy 1/8" riser (thinking of ditching it soon)
Jessup griptape

https://www.instagram.com/hzskateboards/


From Boomboomtech...

https://www.instagram.com/boomboomtech/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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There's info on identifying woodshops on the first page of the thread but the general tell for BBS is the small divot in the top ply between the front truck holes.

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As a European guy I was wondering a few days ago if the Dwindle versions of the AWS boards were made in the same molds as the BBS ones, and the same question for the other brands that make their boards in different woodshop depending of the zone...

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I have definitely heard some of the alternate woodshops did try to get their boards made to the same dimensions, and sizes, but even between different woodshops (who do not share shape info and specs and certainly do not share mold information) there were significant differences in concave too.


Example of this was the Uma Landsleds brand decks that were initially BBS and always going to be BBS but due to issues, had to be put out through Dwindle for here in AU and Asia too I think, before all the delayed BBS ones arrived and they might look the same but feel totally different in concave.

One of the guys I know got one (not BBS) and was wondering why it was just not comfortable, but I could feel it right away.  It definitely was not a BBS concave and he had not looked at the sticker which clearly had "Made in China" on it.

The company were not at all trying to hide it or confuse customers and were honest about it when asked, but I know some people felt ripped off.  I don't share those opinions though - read the fine print and stand on the board first if you can.


That said, I think things might have settled down a lot now since the 2020 issues with supply, covid shut downs and anything else that happened in that year.

Production seems back to normal for all the big suppliers, almost an excess of decks in skateshops right now actually, but always check the stickers and pics, ask the shop if they don't have anything up or details available and if you are not buying in person at the shop and if you are unsure, wait and buy from somewhere that does answer back, or can help you with information.

OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 08, 2022, 02:48:52 AM

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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

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I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

Sorry for the dumb question, but does this tend to confirm that this board is BBS wood worldwide?

Yeah 360 views are pretty cool!

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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

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I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

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Sorry for the dumb question, but does this tend to confirm that this board is BBS wood worldwide?

Yeah 360 views are pretty cool!

I know a lot of brand websites are all based on US orders and are from locations in the USA, so as far as those boards that come from their location, along with any that are in shops in the US, as well as the boards here in AU, they are all BBS made but I am not sure about any other places, in particular Asia and European countries.

From going back over some info, one guy did say that the AWS decks he got were BBS, but someone else said their board was Dwindle, so apart from that being from a year or more ago, I couldn't say about the current state of things there.

The best thing to do is check if any of the local shops stock AWS or Habitat, or contact any shops you might buy from that you cannot get to in person and just ask if they have BBS / Made in Mexico boards.  If they reply yes, then you are good to go, but if they don't reply or say they have a different sticker or something on them that would mean they are from HLC or China, then I would be a bit more wary.


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This one says Made in Mexico on the info, so I would say you should be good here:

https://www.freedomskateshop.at/de/skate/skateboard/decks/alien-workshop-visitor-8-5-deck

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Post by: Woodshop on March 08, 2022, 04:35:40 AM

From the "Do the FA / Hockey / AWS / Habitat / Quasi decks have the same shape?" thread:

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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.



I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now.  From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.

The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.

Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that.  They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.



To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.

If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.

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Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?

What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?

What size or shape of GX1000 are you thinking of, as a lot of brands will have generic shapes for some boards and specific shapes for others, just like the WKND list.

As much as I am able to try a lot of different boards, either stand on them or skate them as people I know ride almost anything and everything, as well as getting back a lot of used boards from people I know, my personal preference is very limited to only a couple of specific shapes as my daily rider, even though I have a lot of boards from many different brands and woodshops in the place I have my shop nowdays, which is part of an indoor / outdoor skatepark.

I cannot ride anything but the most mellow of kicks (old broken ankles) and even flatten some boards more just to have a tail that I can skate and not have issue with but all my main boards are BBS wood in either 8.38 or 8.5 with 14.5 wheelbase and at least 32.25 or longer.

That said, I do have a number of other boards as cruisers and weird setups, just to use as try out boards and skate every now and then too, mainly so I can help anyone if they are asking for something specific, or to use as a "try before you buy" type of thing, so I am constantly changing things around, trying this with that, making more boards up as some move or get taken apart if someone wants something.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

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I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

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Sorry for the dumb question, but does this tend to confirm that this board is BBS wood worldwide?

Yeah 360 views are pretty cool!

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I know a lot of brand websites are all based on US orders and are from locations in the USA, so as far as those boards that come from their location, along with any that are in shops in the US, as well as the boards here in AU, they are all BBS made but I am not sure about any other places, in particular Asia and European countries.

From going back over some info, one guy did say that the AWS decks he got were BBS, but someone else said their board was Dwindle, so apart from that being from a year or more ago, I couldn't say about the current state of things there.

The best thing to do is check if any of the local shops stock AWS or Habitat, or contact any shops you might buy from that you cannot get to in person and just ask if they have BBS / Made in Mexico boards.  If they reply yes, then you are good to go, but if they don't reply or say they have a different sticker or something on them that would mean they are from HLC or China, then I would be a bit more wary.

OK, so it's not clear...

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

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I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

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Sorry for the dumb question, but does this tend to confirm that this board is BBS wood worldwide?

Yeah 360 views are pretty cool!

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I know a lot of brand websites are all based on US orders and are from locations in the USA, so as far as those boards that come from their location, along with any that are in shops in the US, as well as the boards here in AU, they are all BBS made but I am not sure about any other places, in particular Asia and European countries.

From going back over some info, one guy did say that the AWS decks he got were BBS, but someone else said their board was Dwindle, so apart from that being from a year or more ago, I couldn't say about the current state of things there.

The best thing to do is check if any of the local shops stock AWS or Habitat, or contact any shops you might buy from that you cannot get to in person and just ask if they have BBS / Made in Mexico boards.  If they reply yes, then you are good to go, but if they don't reply or say they have a different sticker or something on them that would mean they are from HLC or China, then I would be a bit more wary.

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OK, so it's not clear...

Thanks!

You missed the edit...



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This one says Made in Mexico on the info, so I would say you should be good here:

https://www.freedomskateshop.at/de/skate/skateboard/decks/alien-workshop-visitor-8-5-deck

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
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Quote from: Solex on March 08, 2022, 02:28:36 AM

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OK, that's what I thought in general, but always good to have a confirmation. In fact I had a doubt while I was considering the AWS Owlien Twin because for this one the brand is proud to say "Proprietary Twin Shape", so I guess they produce this kind of board exclusively in the BBS woodshop...

Here is the page of the AWS Frankie Spears symmetrical model (the original Owlien Twin is no longer in the catalog)  :
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r

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I have one of the Owlien and the shape sure is big and long and square, long kicks on it.

That is pretty cool with the 360 view of the deck too.

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Sorry for the dumb question, but does this tend to confirm that this board is BBS wood worldwide?

Yeah 360 views are pretty cool!

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I know a lot of brand websites are all based on US orders and are from locations in the USA, so as far as those boards that come from their location, along with any that are in shops in the US, as well as the boards here in AU, they are all BBS made but I am not sure about any other places, in particular Asia and European countries.

From going back over some info, one guy did say that the AWS decks he got were BBS, but someone else said their board was Dwindle, so apart from that being from a year or more ago, I couldn't say about the current state of things there.

The best thing to do is check if any of the local shops stock AWS or Habitat, or contact any shops you might buy from that you cannot get to in person and just ask if they have BBS / Made in Mexico boards.  If they reply yes, then you are good to go, but if they don't reply or say they have a different sticker or something on them that would mean they are from HLC or China, then I would be a bit more wary.

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OK, so it's not clear...

Thanks!

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You missed the edit...



Edit:


This one says Made in Mexico on the info, so I would say you should be good here:

https://www.freedomskateshop.at/de/skate/skateboard/decks/alien-workshop-visitor-8-5-deck

Don't waste your time with that stuff, I was just curious! I finally ordered a crail G069 and I'm happy with it so far.

Many thanks anyway!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 08, 2022, 04:26:39 PM

Quote from: Solex on March 08, 2022, 08:22:21 AM

Don't waste your time with that stuff, I was just curious! I finally ordered a crail G069 and I'm happy with it so far.

Many thanks anyway!

Ha yeah, not a worry either way.

If I got kick backs from brands I recommended it might be different, but I have no affiliations with anyone or anything and just like searching out and finding things when I am able.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:07:43 AM

From the "Questions" thread:


Another excellent Japanese skate shop that lists all deck details and more.

https://www.californiastreet.net/

Quote from: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 05:28:47 AM

Now this is more detail than I have ever seen from any other shop, even saying which way the BAKER name runs on the board (and don't mind the browser translation, just appreciate the info):


https://www.californiastreet.net/c/brand/brand-b/baker/de-ba-bl-bkwt84-o


ANDREW REYNOLDS's skateboard deck brand BAKER.

The product of this place becomes graphic "B" nose, "R" tail, it becomes.

Length 80.9cm Width 21.4cm Nose 18.4cm Tail 17.0cm
Wheel base 35.7cm Concave Medium / Kick Medium

Quote from: SaySo on March 09, 2022, 05:58:59 AM

The shop is also very honest about where they source blanks for their shop decks from (the unstained wood decks are from DSM, the black painted decks are from BBS.) Not sure where the Todd Francis and other collabo decks are sourced from though.

https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet (https://www.californiastreet.net/c/skateboard/deck/deck-c/deck-californiastreet)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 09, 2022, 08:39:12 AM

Are Pizza decks back on PS Stix? Signature top markings and sticker.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Pizza_Tri_Logo_Deck/descpage-PZTL81DK.html
(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=PZTL81DK-2.jpg&nw=435)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:35:48 PM

@rocklobster

Nice find.

Maybe someone was getting over the other wood they were on, or who knows what.

From the shortages and issues around 2020 to 2021, I guess a lot of companies got wood from where ever they could, but do seem to be settling back to what they were on before, in many cases.


Also interesting the close up of some of the boards have a more generic PS Stix laser engraving and others have the words PIZZA SKATEBOARDS on them.

I also noticed they have the nail dot on the board too.


(https://i.ibb.co/qNGBMqV/PS-Stix-2022-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkRMY6L)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:37:41 PM

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I had meant to upload these close ups the other day, but realised I hadn't yet.

Dwindle boards, also with the nail dot and the usual info too.

I noted to that these were a different nail head dot to the other boards that were "unknown" with Made in China stickers on them, but that is not to say that they don't come from Dwindle.

Just an interesting thing to check, until anyone can actually confirm where the others are from, I am still guessing they are Dalian Hauhong as per the video of them making Toy Machine decks, but that could all have changed in the last year or more with any other manufacturing woodshop in China making the boards, including a Dwindle setup as well.




(https://i.ibb.co/RSrV13s/Dwindle-nail-deck-01-closeup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mhw3bct)


(https://i.ibb.co/KhSjM4x/Dwindle-nail-deck-02-closeup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GpNvKYQ)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:50:15 PM

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Another interesting thing I just noticed too.


The new Element pricepoint decks do not have the natural wood and BBS markings, instead having a very generic look which I associate with "Made in China" boards, as per the close up below.

The normal boards are still showing BBS on them, but this one also has the red warning sticker removed for the close up, which would usually have "Made in..." shown on it.

Just another interesting thing to note, with a number of companies now looking like they have the pro boards on BBS and the cheaper versions and pricepoint boards from a different woodshop entirely.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Element_Seal_Black_Deck/descpage-ELSL825DK.html


(https://i.ibb.co/FJDZWzW/Element-2022-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jGr05D5)



Edit:

Found a pro board with those same markings, and can see "Made in China" on the sticker which is still on this board too.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Element_Garcia_Out_There_Deck/descpage-ELGOTDK.html


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=ELGOTDK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Solex on March 10, 2022, 02:13:52 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 09, 2022, 06:07:43 AM

From the "Questions" thread:


Another excellent Japanese skate shop that lists all deck details and more.

https://www.californiastreet.net/

Another pretty good website in my opinion :

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/fr/planches-skate

For each board you can find :
Width
Lenght
Wheelbase
Nose
Tail
Concave evaluation
Some construction informations (single deck press, epoxy...)
And a pretty good side view to evaluate the concave and the steepness.

On a side note they also provide some interesting informations about the trucks like the height and the axle width (but sadly not always true...).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Chronic85 on March 10, 2022, 03:08:42 AM

Quote from: Solex on March 10, 2022, 02:13:52 AM

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/fr/planches-skate

For each board you can find :
Width
Lenght
Wheelbase
Nose
Tail
Concave evaluation
Some construction informations (single deck press, epoxy...)
And a pretty good side view to evaluate the concave and the steepness.

On a side note they also provide some interesting informations about the trucks like the height and the axle width (but sadly not always true...).

Be careful with Skatedeluxe, the sizes on their site are pretty off every time i compared them to the "real" sizes on the manufacturers websites.
My guess is they just provide some numbers and dont measure every single deck since they're more corporate with big amounts of Hardware..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Solex on March 10, 2022, 03:28:35 AM

Quote from: Chronic85 on March 10, 2022, 03:08:42 AM

Be careful with Skatedeluxe, the sizes on their site are pretty off every time i compared them to the "real" sizes on the manufacturers websites.
My guess is they just provide some numbers and dont measure every single deck since they're more corporate with big amounts of Hardware..

Don't really know, but measurments provided by brands/manufacturers are also quite often weird or wrong for sure. :D

Maybe I'm wrong, but despite they seems quite big and probably not skater owned, I think they really want to provide some useful informations to the customer, otherwise they probably won't shoot those good quality side views, I guess...

Please let me hope!

Anyway, I think it's always important to compare with multiple sources before any online purchase...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 10, 2022, 04:03:43 AM

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Speaking of Skate Deluxe...

Quote from: off on March 09, 2022, 07:02:31 AM

two different measurements on this one
skatedeluxe says
8.75/31.75/14.25wb
tactics says
8.75/31.74/13.94wb

The irony is that all those Element boards have the dimensions laser etched into the top of the board, but more often than not what they give to shops in terms of information and even on the Element sites are sometimes not the correct dimensions, so I don't quite know how they can be so bad at this.


Comparisons:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/element-daley-demon-8-875-skateboard-deck-white_p153344

https://www.tactics.com/element/sascha-demon-8875-skateboard-deck


So from looking at the close up on Skate Deluxe, it actually has "Made in Europe" as the first line, so it is not the usual BBS board, or at least this one is not, the width and length on the second line and the nose, tail and wb on the third line, but it is too hard to make out in that pic.

I would say that it appears to be 8.75 x 31.75, N 7.12 T 6.44 WB 14 as there doesn't look like there are enough characters for the 14.25 or even 13.94 or something at the end.


Close up on Tactics shows "Built by BBS" and although it was hard to make out details, it does look like N 7.0, T 6.5 and enough room for 13.94 wb on the printing there, so it could be different to the EU version.



So I went for a look for anything else too, Element Demon deck being the key words that worked best, with some curious results but I wonder if the different countries make what could be the same board with different woodshops, BBS in USA, HLC in Europe and have different boards / different sizes.

All up I would say that the 14 wb is about right, but really could be 14.25 or under 14 still.

The So Cal shop measurements just seem like they are for a different board entirely, but who knows.



https://www.elementbrand.ie/sascha-demon-8.75%2522-skateboard-deck-C4DCB5ELP2.html

W: 8.875" x L: 31.75"
Wheel Base: 14"


https://socalskateshop.com/Element-Sascha-Daley-Demon-Shaped-Skateboard-Deck-8875x325.html

Deck Specs:
Width: 8.875"
Length: 32.5"
Wheelbase: 15"
Nose: 6.5"
Tail: 6.75"


https://www.tristarskateboards.com/product/element-sascha-daley-demon-deck/

8.875 X 31.74
No mention of wheelbase, but the shorter length alone should mean it is about 14


Skate Deluxe (Made in Europe) deck

(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/hOoJ2YuW4BtBASSjki4s2zhZ_mU=/fit-in/1500x1749/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/153344-1-Element-DaleyDemon8875.jpg)


Tactics (Made in Mexico) deck

(https://www.tactics.com/a/dh8y/9/element-sascha-demon-8875-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 10, 2022, 02:56:25 PM

So annoying that when I look up, let’s say GX Decks in different Shops they all list different measurements.
Same deck and different length / different wheelbase.

Same with the AWS decks I checked.

Pisses me off.



Do GX and Quasi have the same shape btw? Or Wknd? Cause when I check their lengths and wheelbase with 8.1 decks they are pretty much the same and they are all ps

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on March 10, 2022, 03:46:46 PM

New Revive decks seem to be on BBS wood. This 8.25 in particular has a 14.25 wheelbase

length measurements tape pressed against deck vs not

(https://i.ibb.co/r25dHQF/IMG-5922.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r25dHQF) (https://i.ibb.co/Q8SkZ5g/IMG-5923.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Q8SkZ5g) (https://i.ibb.co/BqWcwzw/IMG-5924.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BqWcwzw) (https://i.ibb.co/R4Z5z88/IMG-5925.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4Z5z88) (https://i.ibb.co/qnrcb6k/IMG-5926.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qnrcb6k) (https://i.ibb.co/VwGTyH0/IMG-5927.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VwGTyH0)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 10, 2022, 03:48:10 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 10, 2022, 02:56:25 PM

So annoying that when I look up, let’s say GX Decks in different Shops they all list different measurements.
Same deck and different length / different wheelbase.

Same with the AWS decks I checked.

Pisses me off.



Do GX and Quasi have the same shape btw? Or Wknd? Cause when I check their lengths and wheelbase with 8.1 decks they are pretty much the same and they are all ps

The hardest thing too is some shops might not be measuring the boards at all and just list the info they were given, while others might measure them, or maybe measure them in different ways, eg the length straight across will always be shorter than the length going with the concave.

At least width and wheelbase should be the two main things that do not really change much, if at all, so those are the measurements I would be going with, more so than overall length.


As to the shapes, I haven't really seen many of the smaller boards in any of those brands, besides online, so they all look fairly similar with no notable differences, definitely nothing that really stands out, eg one really pointy and one really squared off or anything.

Given they are all PS Stix, as you said, there could be slight differences, but with decent pictures, you should be able to see well enough, if you cannot see them or buy in person in a skate shop.


Sorry I can't recall you saying, but are you in US, EU or elsewhere?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 10, 2022, 03:59:44 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on March 10, 2022, 03:46:46 PM

New Revive decks seem to be on BBS wood. This 8.25 in particular has a 14.25 wheelbase

length measurements tape pressed against deck vs not

(https://i.ibb.co/r25dHQF/IMG-5922.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r25dHQF)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q8SkZ5g/IMG-5923.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Q8SkZ5g)
(https://i.ibb.co/BqWcwzw/IMG-5924.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BqWcwzw)
(https://i.ibb.co/R4Z5z88/IMG-5925.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4Z5z88)
(https://i.ibb.co/qnrcb6k/IMG-5926.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qnrcb6k)
(https://i.ibb.co/VwGTyH0/IMG-5927.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VwGTyH0)

That worked.

I edited the initial post, so if you go in and have a look at the format, you can see how it works.

Usually to just use the the "Add image to post" directly under the text box, it will fill in all the details for you.


* Ha yeah, I see you got it.

Good job!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on March 10, 2022, 08:43:16 PM

Gallant getting into to OEM production game

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca5OGoYvEKT/?utm_medium=copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 10, 2022, 09:16:12 PM

Quote from: TwisT on March 10, 2022, 08:43:16 PM

Gallant getting into to OEM production game

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca5OGoYvEKT/?utm_medium=copy_link

Good looking out @TwisT - hopefully this venture doesn't implode like AD, much lower risk than actually running a woodshop.

Was browsing the Habitat page and looks like they are using a combination of PS Stix and BBS.

BBS (I think) - https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/suciu_soty_top_bottom_white_1500x.jpg?v=1645581253)
The 8.38 comes in a custom "Proprietary symmetrical shape", another option for guys struggling to find Ishod TT

PS Stix - https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/twin-peaks-diorama-sheriff-dept-8-125
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/sherr_top_bottom_1500x.jpg?v=1643306728)
Could just be their collab decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 11, 2022, 04:11:26 AM

That one is weird, but I think there had been a few boards at the start of last year that were specifically PS Stix while all the rest were BBS or something.

I cannot remember right now, but I think even their header had tops of boards of both woodshops showing a while back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 11, 2022, 02:05:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 10, 2022, 03:48:10 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 10, 2022, 02:56:25 PM

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So annoying that when I look up, let’s say GX Decks in different Shops they all list different measurements.
Same deck and different length / different wheelbase.

Same with the AWS decks I checked.

Pisses me off.



Do GX and Quasi have the same shape btw? Or Wknd? Cause when I check their lengths and wheelbase with 8.1 decks they are pretty much the same and they are all ps

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The hardest thing too is some shops might not be measuring the boards at all and just list the info they were given, while others might measure them, or maybe measure them in different ways, eg the length straight across will always be shorter than the length going with the concave.

At least width and wheelbase should be the two main things that do not really change much, if at all, so those are the measurements I would be going with, more so than overall length.


As to the shapes, I haven't really seen many of the smaller boards in any of those brands, besides online, so they all look fairly similar with no notable differences, definitely nothing that really stands out, eg one really pointy and one really squared off or anything.

Given they are all PS Stix, as you said, there could be slight differences, but with decent pictures, you should be able to see well enough, if you cannot see them or buy in person in a skate shop.


Sorry I can't recall you saying, but are you in US, EU or elsewhere?

Europe!

Yeah; I’ll just check the Brands websites from now on to doublecheck, Instead of just relying  on the skateshops.


Checked the gx and quasi site and it seems like they are really exact the same. Don’t know the nose and tail lengths  though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 11, 2022, 10:07:38 PM

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Looks like some more Foundation and Toy Machine updates required, after seeing a good Toy Machine board in the setup thread just now.

I hadn't looked at the pics of new boards for a bit, but thought I should.

They still seem to be "unknown" with Made in China on the stickers here in AU, but from Skate Warehouse, the latest Foundation boards are all with "Made in Mexico" stickers which are given to be BBS, as well as half the Toy Machine boards being the same BBS and some being PS Stix.  There didn't look like any new team boards, all those still looking like the other / unknown type boards, going by the stickers, nail dot or top pics.

Probably not really news to people in USA, but I am curious to hear if anyone outside of the US has seen either lately to see if they have changed or are still whatever the local country or distributor puts them on.


These look like really good shapes too.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Foundation_Glick_Head_Roll_Deck/descpage-FOGHRDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=FOGHRDK-2.jpg)


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Leabres_Romero_TB_Smoker_Deck/descpage-TMLRTSDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMLRTSDK-2.jpg)


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Dashawn_Iron_Deck/descpage-TMDJIRDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMDJIRDK-2.jpg)


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Dashawn_Sect_vs_LA_Deck/descpage-TMDSLDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMDSLDK-2.jpg)


Not showing as new, but not so old team board also PS Stix

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Pattern_Logo_Deck/descpage-TMPL80DK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMPL80DK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on March 12, 2022, 05:12:57 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:40:49 PM

Quote from: TwisT on March 04, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

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from what I can tell the only the world name, logo, flameboy, wetwilly & devil man, are licensed out, with Dwindle keeping the rest of the library for other products.

Also, is it safe to make the assumption that the raw blanks I got from blankdecks.com with the same 2 stamp came from control? The last control board I got was from TGM, it was point with a mellow concave and a shorter wheelbase., no stamp, but the control sticker. This one had an 14..25 base with flat concave.

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Interesting about World Industries.  They seem like they are putting out a lot of boards, but all up it might not be that many when compared to other brands by today's standards.


Re that pic and boards with number stamps

I would most likely have to say yes, but I really don't know much about them.  There are different numbers stamped on the boards, at least those known to be from Control woodshop.

The one Studio deck I had was a 3 and there is a pic on the first page from Rocklobster with a 6 which is interesting, but I don't know what they mean, be it the press or the shape, or even something else.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729112#msg3729112

I asked Control about the numbers, they indicate the mould that was used.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 05:18:17 AM

Quote from: LewFarrell on March 12, 2022, 05:12:57 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 04, 2022, 08:40:49 PM

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Quote from: TwisT on March 04, 2022, 09:39:53 AM

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from what I can tell the only the world name, logo, flameboy, wetwilly & devil man, are licensed out, with Dwindle keeping the rest of the library for other products.

Also, is it safe to make the assumption that the raw blanks I got from blankdecks.com with the same 2 stamp came from control? The last control board I got was from TGM, it was point with a mellow concave and a shorter wheelbase., no stamp, but the control sticker. This one had an 14..25 base with flat concave.

[close]

Interesting about World Industries.  They seem like they are putting out a lot of boards, but all up it might not be that many when compared to other brands by today's standards.


Re that pic and boards with number stamps

I would most likely have to say yes, but I really don't know much about them.  There are different numbers stamped on the boards, at least those known to be from Control woodshop.

The one Studio deck I had was a 3 and there is a pic on the first page from Rocklobster with a 6 which is interesting, but I don't know what they mean, be it the press or the shape, or even something else.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729112#msg3729112

[close]

I asked Control about the numbers, they indicate the mould that was used.

Thank you!

Much appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on March 12, 2022, 08:37:28 AM

Question for @mbrimson resident ornithologist, do you know the actual length and wheelbase of the AH white classic eagle? Getting conflicting reports between 14.62 wb x 32.5 and 14.75 x 32.75.

Much appreciated.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 05:04:36 PM

Quote from: juniormint on March 12, 2022, 08:37:28 AM

Question for @mbrimson resident ornithologist, do you know the actual length and wheelbase of the AH white classic eagle? Getting conflicting reports between 14.62 wb x 32.5 and 14.75 x 32.75.

Much appreciated.

Easy.

On paper (and the DLX web sites) these are the dimensions:

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/


They are the standard DLX 8.75 shape, which is the 14.62 wb, so 8.75 x 32.75 length. 

The other standard DLX 8.62 shape has the longer 14.75 wb, so 8.62 x 32.56 in length.


From having a few of each, one thing to note, the 8.75 is definitely NOT that long (just over 32.5) and although wider at the shoulder where it is 8.75, it tapers down to slightly under 8.6 at the tail, but the 8.62 deck is straight right the way through and longer overall by a touch so more like 32.7, so I can understand how some measurements can be seen to be incorrect or different.

The 8.62 definitely feels like a bigger board overall to me, with the longer wheelbase and length in that shape, which is a curious thing, with the 8.75 feeling a bit more stubby and blunt in the kicks, especially looking at the nose, but just feels smaller overall and easier to throw around.

If you want bigger, then the 8.62 is going to do it for you, but if you want a bit more normal then the 8.75 will be easier all round.

I put the same everything on both and they still work fine, eg 159s with 56 classic full wheels, no overhang.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 12, 2022, 05:08:01 PM

Quote from: juniormint on March 12, 2022, 08:37:28 AM

Question for @mbrimson resident ornithologist, do you know the actual length and wheelbase of the AH white classic eagle? Getting conflicting reports between 14.62 wb x 32.5 and 14.75 x 32.75.

Much appreciated.

Also added it to the DLX shapes thread too.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3756802#msg3756802

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on March 16, 2022, 09:52:12 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:11:18 AM

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Girl / Chocolate - Dalian Hauhong

Completely different top to any other brand or company or woodshop.



Chocolate / China top


(https://i.ibb.co/SfJthPr/Chocolate-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KKm2MXw)


Girl / China top


(https://i.ibb.co/K9cFfLK/Girl-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WcNgMPV)

how can you tell the difference between these and the PS Stix? especially since most PS boards has the logo etched on the top

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:04:54 PM

Quote from: left knee cap on March 16, 2022, 09:52:12 PM

how can you tell the difference between these and the PS Stix? especially since most PS boards has the logo etched on the top

I believe that the PS Stix Girl decks were a special one off more than anything else, with a few Pals getting them, but the majority of Girl boards before and after have all been the usual / current ones that come out of China.


Anything made by PS Stix always has the serial number, but often will have the brand logo or other information laser engraved in it as well.


PS wood has SN# PS09393 - 0930 on it too, always the PS(five digits, which refer to the batch number) - (four digits, which refer to the individual board number).



Here is the generic PS Stix top to show anyway.



(https://i.ibb.co/5rzZSXK/PS-Stix-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3M8sGj)




Right this minute I don't have the pics of the Girl PS Stix boards in enough detail to show, but for reference, here are two others, a Toy Machine and a Welcome board.



(https://i.ibb.co/G2XD1c2/Toy-Machine-PS-etched-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzgTsJz)


Welcome PS Stix top


(https://i.ibb.co/R6QmP1j/Welcome-PS-top-2021-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lg9W6MN)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:06:15 PM

Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/UJgBuY8.jpg?1)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on March 16, 2022, 10:08:53 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:06:15 PM

Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/UJgBuY8.jpg?1)

is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 16, 2022, 10:09:23 PM

For Crailtap I see 3 versions
Fakes - popular in Asia, no top ply markings, old graphics from the mid 2010s
Legit Made In China - the ones that are mass distributed, better quality than the 2010s stuff, decent wood, love or hate it
PS Stix - for their smaller run stuff like Carroll's 7.5" reissue (2020) and Jeron Wilson's BLM (2021) deck, has the PS Stix laser etching but the top ply stain is dark so I can't see the wordings, zoom in on the decks on crailtap.com and you'll see the serial numbers

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Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/UJgBuY8.jpg?1)

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is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

Where did you pick those up?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:09:28 PM

Quote from: left knee cap on March 16, 2022, 09:52:12 PM

how can you tell the difference between these and the PS Stix? especially since most PS boards has the logo etched on the top

I did some digging, and turned up this info for you as well.


Slap Girl shapes thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=84855.150



One of the boards that states PS Stix on it with pictures, but still not good enough to be able to see the top info.  Note the PS Stix warning sticker is usually a lot larger and above the text, which is also a good indication.


https://www.idealbirmingham.co.uk/products/girl-wilson-power-og-deck-8-5


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0027/9092/products/girl-wilson-power-og-deck-top_1024x1024.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Cthunderw on March 16, 2022, 10:10:01 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:06:15 PM

Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.

Probably why they were on sale. That sucks for you and for us in a broader sense.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:11:02 PM

Quote from: TwisT on March 16, 2022, 10:08:53 PM

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Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/UJgBuY8.jpg?1)

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is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

Good catch, its seems like a pretty fitted sleeve. Definitely feels stiffer and less stretchy than the normal BBS wrap, But not loose

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:20:04 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:11:02 PM

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Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.

[close]

is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

[close]

Good catch, its seems like a pretty fitted sleeve. Definitely feels stiffer and less stretchy than the normal BBS wrap, But not loose

Is there no warning sticker actually on the deck itself, usually up around the front deck bolts area?  I know all the Darkroom decks I bought had very specific stickers and the red square sticker with board dimensions.


Also when you stand on it, does it have the BBS "spoon concave" to the kicks, or more generic flat faces?


But I am interested in where you are (Seattle or LA or elsewhere?) and where you got it too - that would help a whole lot.



(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0265/8857/7871/products/DarkroomSoloist8.125SkateboardDeck_1200x1200.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:31:32 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 16, 2022, 10:09:23 PM

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Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.

[close]

is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

[close]

Where did you pick those up?

Quote from: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:20:04 PM

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Picked up a couple of these Darkrooms on sale, pretty bummed theyre not BBS, but theyll probably be fine.

[close]

is that shrink wrap or a plastic sleeve?
Plastic bags will have the made in china sticker on it sometimes because the sleeve itself is Chinese made.

[close]

Good catch, its seems like a pretty fitted sleeve. Definitely feels stiffer and less stretchy than the normal BBS wrap, But not loose

[close]

Is there no warning sticker actually on the deck itself, usually up around the front deck bolts area?  I know all the Darkroom decks I bought had very specific stickers and the red square sticker with board dimensions.


Also when you stand on it, does it have the BBS "spoon concave" to the kicks, or more generic flat faces?


But I am interested in where you are (Seattle or LA or elsewhere?) and where you got it too - that would help a whole lot.

Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.
(https://i.imgur.com/UHAxfW6.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/OTEn4tR.jpg?1)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:36:56 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:31:32 PM

Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:45:55 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:36:56 PM

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

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Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

Concave seems pretty standard, not abrupt, kinked or too mellow. The kicks, particularly the nose feels steep but ill have to see this weekend when i get on it. And yea, its exactly like a nail hole in the top. Smaller hole hole than normal.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 16, 2022, 11:03:32 PM

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

Doesn't look like Darkroom does PP decks, even this listing proudly states
"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."

Could be COVID stock, definitely seen this same graphic on a few online retailers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 17, 2022, 04:26:03 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 16, 2022, 11:03:32 PM

https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

Doesn't look like Darkroom does PP decks, even this listing proudly states
"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."

Could be COVID stock, definitely seen this same graphic on a few online retailers.

That always gets me when I see this sort of board (with Made in China sticker) as purchased in a shop and then the BBS stickers on the stock images from their own online store.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0070/8647/3275/products/siamese_snipe_1024x1024.jpg)


It is almost as if they are selling one thing to the mall stores and another thing online, but I wonder if you did order from their site, what would actually arrive.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on March 17, 2022, 07:15:39 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 17, 2022, 04:26:03 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 16, 2022, 11:03:32 PM

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https://drkrminc.com/collections/decks/products/siamese-snipe-skateboard-deck-8-0

Doesn't look like Darkroom does PP decks, even this listing proudly states
"Produced in the USA with the highest quality wood and most functional shapes, these are some of the most solid decks in the industry."

Could be COVID stock, definitely seen this same graphic on a few online retailers.

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That always gets me when I see this sort of board (with Made in China sticker) as purchased in a shop and then the BBS stickers on the stock images from their own online store.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0070/8647/3275/products/siamese_snipe_1024x1024.jpg)


It is almost as if they are selling one thing to the mall stores and another thing online, but I wonder if you did order from their site, what would actually arrive.

Something really odd going on here...the wrapping on the board is off, the darkroom sticker on the plastic is weird because it's usually in the wrap. Just seems really weird for a smaller company like Darkroom to even bother to do a different print run on china wood when they had BBS for the same graphic. I guess it's possible but this random made in china is kinda strange. Does it feel/look/smell like BBS?

Normally looks like this.
https://super-shop.com/i302693-darkroom-siamese-snipe-deck-blue-purple-orange

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on March 17, 2022, 07:15:57 AM

could be Zumiez worked out a deal with a Chinese factory to get boards faster. Mall/dept stores do it with clothing companies.

Zumiez gives the brand a lump sum up front. Then they use their own supply chain, to produce and ship products. They'd be ordering 10s of thousands, maybe 100k boards in one order so they could negotiate better terms. That'd save production cost, and give a higher profit margin.

This is done with clothes, and other goods, so Id imagine skate decks as well. Of course, this is wild speculation

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on March 17, 2022, 07:23:18 AM

Quote from: TwisT on March 17, 2022, 07:15:57 AM

could be Zumiez worked out a deal with a Chinese factory to get boards faster. Mall/dept stores do it with clothing companies.

Zumiez gives the brand a lump sum up front. Then they use their own supply chain, to produce and ship products. They'd be ordering 10s of thousands, maybe 100k boards in one order so they could negotiate better terms. That'd save production cost, and give a higher profit margin.

This is done with clothes, and other goods, so Id imagine skate decks as well. Of course, this is wild speculation

That is kinda wild, but I was thinking the same that basically perhaps it's counterfeit or under licence. Just going on the picture, the printing looks a little off in the colours, not as Sharpe and bright (but that might just be the picture).
Just seems really at odds with Darkrooms whole thing, but hey what do I know.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 17, 2022, 08:33:04 AM

Quote from: TwisT on March 17, 2022, 07:15:57 AM

could be Zumiez worked out a deal with a Chinese factory to get boards faster. Mall/dept stores do it with clothing companies.

Zumiez gives the brand a lump sum up front. Then they use their own supply chain, to produce and ship products. They'd be ordering 10s of thousands, maybe 100k boards in one order so they could negotiate better terms. That'd save production cost, and give a higher profit margin.

For larger faster moving brands like a Baker that would make sense that Zumiez would go direct to a China factory, but Darkroom is a niche brand with limited marketing appeal, so they would be stuck with their thousands of decks for a long time.

Anyone willing to order 1 more from Zumiez to see if the Made in China was 1 off?

This made in China thing seems like grounds for getting a refund or replacement - since Darkroom claims its "MADE IN USA" and is missing the top stickers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 08:42:44 AM

I’ll take some un wrapped pics of the graphic side when I get home from work. The screening is definitely less glossy and more flat than more decks I’ve had recently.

If anyone actually wants one I have a good amount still to be delivered, just shoot me a dm

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 17, 2022, 08:59:19 AM

Quote from: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 08:42:44 AM

I’ll take some un wrapped pics of the graphic side when I get home from work. The screening is definitely less glossy and more flat than more decks I’ve had recently.

If anyone actually wants one I have a good amount still to be delivered, just shoot me a dm

How many did you buy???

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 09:29:23 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 17, 2022, 08:59:19 AM

Quote from: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 08:42:44 AM

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I’ll take some un wrapped pics of the graphic side when I get home from work. The screening is definitely less glossy and more flat than more decks I’ve had recently.

If anyone actually wants one I have a good amount still to be delivered, just shoot me a dm

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How many did you buy???

Unfortunately picked up 10. I mainly skate ledges and go through a deck every 2-3 weeks if the weathers good. These were going to be my supply for the spring/summer

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 17, 2022, 05:00:28 PM

So even the Zumiez listing clearly shows the BBS sticker and info.

https://www.zumiez.com/darkroom-siamese-snipe-8-0-skateboard-deck.html


Half price for something half as good?


I guess the only way to really find out is to set it up and skate it.


https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Darkroom-Siamese-Snipe-8.0%22-Skateboard-Deck-_172396-alt1-CA.jpg

(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Darkroom-Siamese-Snipe-8.0%22-Skateboard-Deck-_172396-alt1-CA.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 07:42:50 PM

Wrote them a long email with all the documentation. Hoping for the best but expecting nothing. I guess well see.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 17, 2022, 07:54:43 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 17, 2022, 07:42:50 PM

Wrote them a long email with all the documentation. Hoping for the best but expecting nothing. I guess well see.

Feels like we're The Secret Seven / Famous Five / Harriet the Spy cracking the case of the China Darkroom.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on March 17, 2022, 11:06:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 16, 2022, 10:36:56 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 16, 2022, 10:31:32 PM

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

[close]

Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

to be fair we have had Darkrooms that are genuine BBS and some are China wood, but price staying the same.

on the flip side, we do get Maxallure and Paterson boards that are 100% made just for Zumiez, china made and the dimensions are wild. we have some 8.5 Max’s that are 30” long. comparing it to actual Max boards, this might just seem to be the deal they have made with Zumiez.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 18, 2022, 12:17:22 AM

Quote from: left knee cap on March 17, 2022, 11:06:04 PM

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

[close]

Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

[close]

to be fair we have had Darkrooms that are genuine BBS and some are China wood, but price staying the same.

on the flip side, we do get Maxallure and Paterson boards that are 100% made just for Zumiez, china made and the dimensions are wild. we have some 8.5 Max’s that are 30” long. comparing it to actual Max boards, this might just seem to be the deal they have made with Zumiez.

Are Maxallure exclusive to Zumiez? Definitely seen them at 303.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 18, 2022, 05:48:58 AM

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

[close]

Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

[close]

to be fair we have had Darkrooms that are genuine BBS and some are China wood, but price staying the same.

on the flip side, we do get Maxallure and Paterson boards that are 100% made just for Zumiez, china made and the dimensions are wild. we have some 8.5 Max’s that are 30” long. comparing it to actual Max boards, this might just seem to be the deal they have made with Zumiez.

I would be interested to see pics of the boards, tops or any stickers with Made in / warning info.


Being such a big buyer, I guess the company could afford to do deals above and beyond the normal supply and I could be wrong, but I think bringing in boards from China are generally cheaper than boards from Mexico, especially in such high numbers as they could be getting.

It all adds up pretty quickly, even if it was a few dollars difference a board, they order a thousand, that is a significant enough saving to justify it from their end.


As per this case, just check dimensions, see if they skate well or not, then give some feedback after that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on March 18, 2022, 09:16:15 PM

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

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Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

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to be fair we have had Darkrooms that are genuine BBS and some are China wood, but price staying the same.

on the flip side, we do get Maxallure and Paterson boards that are 100% made just for Zumiez, china made and the dimensions are wild. we have some 8.5 Max’s that are 30” long. comparing it to actual Max boards, this might just seem to be the deal they have made with Zumiez.

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Are Maxallure exclusive to Zumiez? Definitely seen them at 303.

i would like to think the Max's that are in shops are different than the ones in Zumiez woodshop wise.. after re-reading the thread, it looks like we get the PGI ones? see photos below.

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Sad to say theyre from Zumiez, couldnt say no to what i thought was a $29.99 BBS. Theres no normal Warning sticker, and no red rectangle.  I dont think it was meant to be a PP deck since the orig was $59.99 but that could mean nothing.  Ive gotten 2 so far, so maybe the others will be different but i doubt it.

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Looks like the generic "Made in China" boards strike again, but quite simply, skate it and see how it goes.

Is that just a smaller nail like punch in the front bolts area?


It does seem like a lot of brands are now going for two options, the pro boards still on the good wood and the pricepoint or more generic graphics on cheaper boards (cheaper for them and better margins that is) from China for the other more mainstream market and shops.


I am curious how it feels compared to the 35th decks from the other thread too, in concave and feel of the boards.

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to be fair we have had Darkrooms that are genuine BBS and some are China wood, but price staying the same.

on the flip side, we do get Maxallure and Paterson boards that are 100% made just for Zumiez, china made and the dimensions are wild. we have some 8.5 Max’s that are 30” long. comparing it to actual Max boards, this might just seem to be the deal they have made with Zumiez.

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I would be interested to see pics of the boards, tops or any stickers with Made in / warning info.

Being such a big buyer, I guess the company could afford to do deals above and beyond the normal supply and I could be wrong, but I think bringing in boards from China are generally cheaper than boards from Mexico, especially in such high numbers as they could be getting.

It all adds up pretty quickly, even if it was a few dollars difference a board, they order a thousand, that is a significant enough saving to justify it from their end.


As per this case, just check dimensions, see if they skate well or not, then give some feedback after that.

ask you shall receive.

one common thing with all these is that they all have this WARNING sticker on them and below have the country. assumptions can be made.

Maxallure. Made in China. Logo on top ply. No other indication where it's made from. Possibly PGI?
(https://i.ibb.co/nc9ffrL/Photo-2022-03-18-15-28-04.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/bgM9s6H/Photo-2022-03-18-15-28-14.jpg)

Paterson. This one is made in Mexico. Logo also on top ply. No other indicators.
(https://i.ibb.co/j58cGwD/Photo-2022-03-18-15-28-55.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/rm64Nkj/Photo-2022-03-18-15-28-41.jpg)

BONUS, we got a bunch of Worble decks with this sticker on it as well, but they are indeed Clutch wood. we once got a run of Skate Mental's with that sticker too, but again they are definitely Clutch.
(https://i.ibb.co/Z2RN55q/Photo-2022-03-18-15-30-43.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/PwQxpkP/Photo-2022-03-18-15-30-49.jpg)

interesting deep dive. all the other boards in my Zumiez that are BBS, PS, NHS, etc etc don't come with the stickers on em.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 18, 2022, 10:07:40 PM

Quote from: left knee cap on March 18, 2022, 09:16:15 PM

Firstly thank you for the pics and information!

Given I have never been outside of Australia and never bought a board from Zumiez, I wonder if almost everything as you have shown is "special order" product, as I don't ever really recall seeing those warning stickers anywhere else - from any other shop or seller or pics - or if the stickers are made specifically for Zumiez and put on the boards at the manufacturing end or in the Zumiez distribution warehouse.

It looks like that Paterson deck also has Clutch stamps at the front bolt area (just on the arm of the "a") but it could also be something else.  Those pics are great with good definition, so blown up on a decent sized screen I can really see a lot of detail.  Just rechecked and Paterson is listed as Clutch anyway.

I think the most common place where any board stamps, markings or other info is around the front bolt area, sometimes round the back bolt area, but most brands will have their own stickers and info, eg DLX has the silver foil size stickers on the bottom and barcode sticker on top on the tails, NHS has the white product barcode stickers up on the noses on top, some others have specific barcode or product stickers too, regardless of woodshop, but then specific warning stickers also help identify the woodshop too.

For some other places / brands / woodshops, there is no normal sticker besides what is on the board itself, eg the Clutch stamps are usually all that are on most of their boards, with specific brands putting their own brand with size stickers on afterwards.

It is interesting to see all of these anyway, no matter what the thoughts are on where they come from or anything else.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 22, 2022, 01:45:13 PM

Trying to avoid sounding like a corporate shill, i really gotta hand it to Darkroom on this one.  I originally emailed Zumiez last week explaining the situation with images, links etc. Didn't hear anything back for a couple business days, so DMed Darkroom's IG and a day later was given Kevin's email to reach out to.  After reiterating the story, I instantly got a response acknowledging he heard about the situation over the weekend and wanted to sort it out. He laid out the covid related supply chain issues that we expected, during the heavy quarantine days when PS and BBS closed up.  In order to fill Zumiez's order during that time, they had to move to an overseas woodshop whose QC they approved of.  He assured me that all manufacturing has since revered back to BBS.  Kevin was really easy to deal with and offered to help me out regardless of Zumiez's responsiveness.

To be honest, with how cool they were, ill try to support DR in the future when I need new wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 22, 2022, 04:08:16 PM

Open and shut case Johnson!

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Post by: Woodshop on March 22, 2022, 05:01:59 PM

That is so good!


I do wonder how many pandemic runs of boards have meant there are still a number of "other" boards out there from companies that are not their usual wood, eg if a shop bought a good number but then don't move them very fast, that could leave quite a legacy of questions and some confusion.

At least no confusion here now.

I am still curious how the concave is compared to BBS and how they hold up in the wear test.  Just me being me though, as I am all kinds of weird with things like that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: braksabbath on March 22, 2022, 10:09:58 PM

I got a Blood Wizard that just has a sharpie dot on the top and no other markings. Color ply top, rest all natural including under the graphic. Looks kinda warped too. Might be pandemic leftover price point wood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fooj on March 23, 2022, 10:44:31 PM

Very nice.
(https://i.imgur.com/agfXWwq.jpg?1)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on March 26, 2022, 06:46:50 PM

Quote from: Fooj on March 22, 2022, 01:45:13 PM

Trying to avoid sounding like a corporate shill, i really gotta hand it to Darkroom on this one.  I originally emailed Zumiez last week explaining the situation with images, links etc. Didn't hear anything back for a couple business days, so DMed Darkroom's IG and a day later was given Kevin's email to reach out to.  After reiterating the story, I instantly got a response acknowledging he heard about the situation over the weekend and wanted to sort it out. He laid out the covid related supply chain issues that we expected, during the heavy quarantine days when PS and BBS closed up.  In order to fill Zumiez's order during that time, they had to move to an overseas woodshop whose QC they approved of.  He assured me that all manufacturing has since revered back to BBS.  Kevin was really easy to deal with and offered to help me out regardless of Zumiez's responsiveness.

To be honest, with how cool they were, ill try to support DR in the future when I need new wood.

Darkroom are great like that, they sent me out a replacement too for something that went wrong with mine.

But Zero on the other hand - they even said the poor quality deck was due to covid wood but didn't do anything about it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2022, 05:47:27 PM

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Trying to avoid sounding like a corporate shill, i really gotta hand it to Darkroom on this one.  I originally emailed Zumiez last week explaining the situation with images, links etc. Didn't hear anything back for a couple business days, so DMed Darkroom's IG and a day later was given Kevin's email to reach out to.  After reiterating the story, I instantly got a response acknowledging he heard about the situation over the weekend and wanted to sort it out. He laid out the covid related supply chain issues that we expected, during the heavy quarantine days when PS and BBS closed up.  In order to fill Zumiez's order during that time, they had to move to an overseas woodshop whose QC they approved of.  He assured me that all manufacturing has since revered back to BBS.  Kevin was really easy to deal with and offered to help me out regardless of Zumiez's responsiveness.

To be honest, with how cool they were, ill try to support DR in the future when I need new wood.

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Darkroom are great like that, they sent me out a replacement too for something that went wrong with mine.

But Zero on the other hand - they even said the poor quality deck was due to covid wood but didn't do anything about it.

Was that from their USA HQ or from locally here in AU?

I am always curious with some brands / companies, as their HQ might be awesome, but their local distributor might be the opposite, or vice versa.

It is really good when both the Company and local distro are both awesome, such as DLX and Project Distribution, both having an A+ for customer service from my experience.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 01, 2022, 06:20:52 PM

I saw Unity and There are now distributed under DLX, went to check and realised they are already in the Woodshop list, both under BBS, which makes sense.

Not a whole lot of info on the specs of the boards, other than the widths, but they have pretty much all the main sizes covered.  I wonder if they are the same shapes as DLX too, apart from the egg shaped Marbie 8.5 x 32 with 14.38 wb.


https://www.unityzines.com/

https://www.thereskateboards.com/catalog

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Post by: Roisto on April 01, 2022, 11:04:08 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 01, 2022, 06:20:52 PM

I saw Unity and There are now distributed under DLX, went to check and realised they are already in the Woodshop list, both under BBS, which makes sense.

Not a whole lot of info on the specs of the boards, other than the widths, but they have pretty much all the main sizes covered.  I wonder if they are the same shapes as DLX too, apart from the egg shaped Marbie 8.5 x 32 with 14.38 wb.


https://www.unityzines.com/

https://www.thereskateboards.com/catalog

I was checking those also but figured they’re maybe the boards still from pre DLX. I’m really looking forward to the boards through DLX.

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Post by: Woodshop on April 05, 2022, 08:06:51 PM

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I saw Unity and There are now distributed under DLX, went to check and realised they are already in the Woodshop list, both under BBS, which makes sense.

Not a whole lot of info on the specs of the boards, other than the widths, but they have pretty much all the main sizes covered.  I wonder if they are the same shapes as DLX too, apart from the egg shaped Marbie 8.5 x 32 with 14.38 wb.


https://www.unityzines.com/

https://www.thereskateboards.com/catalog

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I was checking those also but figured they’re maybe the boards still from pre DLX. I’m really looking forward to the boards through DLX.

I know it might not be much, but I just thought this was interesting.

I see from the Stock Report video that the Unity and There boards have the usual DLX foil stickers with dimensions on them, so that would mean they are the same dimensions as other DLX boards now too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkjyz3jPrf4

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Post by: Woodshop on April 06, 2022, 08:58:03 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on April 06, 2022, 07:16:05 AM

Id love to know how the nose/tail measurements compare on the 8.38, the 8.38 Full SE, and the Dreamer 8.38.

I just got out two both new in shrink to compare - a Real Full SE 8.38 and the normal DLX 8.38, which is often listed as the Dreamer shape but really is just the normal 8.38 shape, so there are only the two options.


Nose on both is just over 7" when measured from the hook over the end of the board straight across (not with concave).

Tail on both is just a bit more over 6.5" when measured the same way, even though I had thought the normal 8.38 had closer to 6.6 tail with other boards I had skated before.


This adds up to what is listed with 7.03 nose and 6.53 tail from the Real Full SE info, as per their site:


https://www.realskateboards.com/construction/


The overall length differences relates to the wheelbase, with the nose and tails being what appears to be exactly the same, the Full SE being more full in the edges of the kicks than the normal shape but the width is the same as well, coming in at 8.4375 (8 7/16ths) across so a touch wider than 8.38 and a hair off 8.5 as per the same as what others have said before too.

Even though the math just doesn't quite add up, the Full SE is 14.38 wb and 32.18 long, the normal 8.38 being 14.5 wb with 32.25 total length which was about right as well.


Comparing both of those to other BBS 8.38 size boards, the Passport is a lot closer to 8.3 x 32 with 14.38 wb with a 6.8" nose and a 6.65" or slightly longer tail, so all round it is not as wide and a bit shorter too, but a slightly longer tail.

I also have a Baker normal 8.38 which is the same all round as the 8.38 normal DLX and a Baker B2 8.38 which is closer to the Real Full SE, in that it is more squared in the kicks, 14.38 wb, same size nose, again more like 8.3 wide than 8.38 but definitely a whole lot longer in the tail than all the rest, which reminds me of the AWS board shapes.

https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction


Maybe too much info, but I was curious while I had all of them to compare and see what they were like, what differences, what similarities and all the rest.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on April 07, 2022, 06:34:07 PM

Does anyone know what woodshop Maxallure is using. I picked up and 8.38 (14.25 wb, 32 Long). It has a simple imprint within the front truck holes. There are not letters, stickers, stamps or etchings.

https://garageskateshop.com/products/maxallure-free-to-roam?_pos=3&_psq=maxallure&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 07, 2022, 06:55:49 PM

Quote from: MxsDx on April 07, 2022, 06:34:07 PM

Does anyone know what woodshop Maxallure is using. I picked up and 8.38 (14.25 wb, 32 Long). It has a simple imprint within the front truck holes. There are not letters, stickers, stamps or etchings.

https://garageskateshop.com/products/maxallure-free-to-roam?_pos=3&_psq=maxallure&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Is it more the bigger dot stamp, and is there any warning sticker or other info on the board?

Board stamps, markings and warning stickers on the first page from here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729106#msg3729106


Some it seemed were BBS, but others, as per earlier on this page seemed to have "Made in China" on it which doesn't really help a whole lot, but any other pics you have of the dot might help too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on April 07, 2022, 07:44:13 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/sgN97kL/EE8-C46-F1-2-F39-4192-9-B1-D-41-F598045603.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgN97kL)

Here is the dimple. No other markings. The mold is pretty flat with medium kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: thanksgiving on April 07, 2022, 08:08:58 PM

heated wheel polarizers are ps stix. the shaped decks (slam time and huntsman) are bbs

not 100% about the popsicles

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DanRar009 on April 11, 2022, 05:58:37 PM

Anyone know what shop mystery boards are coming from?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 12, 2022, 05:25:42 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on April 11, 2022, 05:58:37 PM

Anyone know what shop mystery boards are coming from?

Mystery is now under Surplus Distribution after it was brought back a number of years ago, with boards here in AU being Clutch.  The boards I had stood on and had a skate of in 2019 / 2020 pre pandemic were good solid feeling boards, very similar in concave to BBS with only some slight differences.

Although I don't know about elsewhere, I would imagine they are also Clutch in USA and other places.


Previously they had been under a couple of different woodshops after Black Box folded and I had seen a few floating around with the old Black Box wood, one of an unknown China deck and a few others that might have been counterfeit boards from Ali Express sellers, which would definitely be out of China.


Where are you in the world?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on April 14, 2022, 07:17:05 AM

Maybe some one in here could help me. Long story shot I'm skating a Shake Junt 8.25x32. I'm in love with the deck. I'm pretty sure its BBS wood. Does anyone else use this mold/shape? How would I even find out?
 Shake Junts other decks aren't labeled the same as this one. This concave isn't like a Baker.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 14, 2022, 07:26:39 AM

Email Shake Junt or dm on IG

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 14, 2022, 05:03:07 PM

Quote from: Kombuch-A-Holic on April 14, 2022, 07:17:05 AM

Maybe some one in here could help me. Long story shot I'm skating a Shake Junt 8.25x32. I'm in love with the deck. I'm pretty sure its BBS wood. Does anyone else use this mold/shape? How would I even find out?
 Shake Junts other decks aren't labeled the same as this one. This concave isn't like a Baker.

Is it a current deck and have you measured it for the basic dimensions like wheelbase, length, etc?

Check what is still listed here:


https://shakejunt.com/collections/boards


https://shakejunt.com/collections/boards/products/beagle-caddy-deck-8-25


8.25" x 31.5"
14.25" Wheelbase
Mellow Concave / OG Shape


Some other places have something similar in longer and shorter options from 31.75 to 32, wheelbase varies from 14.12 to 14.35 and so on but I don't really think they are different boards to what usually comes out of Bakerboys, through BBS as they have a pretty solid supply going on there. 

Could be wrong though.


Another one:

https://socalskateshop.com/Shake-Junt-Beagle-Caddy-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-75.html

Deck Specs:

Width: 8.25"
Length: 31.75"
Wheelbase: 14.125"
Nose: 7"
Tail: 6.625"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 15, 2022, 04:46:37 AM

In my travels online I came across another one I hadn't seen before, with boards / blanks in Austria / EU for anyone around there who needs wood:


Mind_Distribution
Non-Governmental Organization (NGO)
Boards Made in Mexico 🇲🇽
Printed in Austria 🇦🇹
Distributor for @clown_skateboards in EU🇪🇺
www.mind-distribution.com
https://www.instagram.com/mind_distribution/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbu5fqSM-n0/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on April 15, 2022, 07:20:56 AM

Dr skateboards a deck printshop in CA uses Quincy (who I thought stopped producing)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcVyjVRJZkR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on April 15, 2022, 09:41:30 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 15, 2022, 07:20:56 AM

Dr skateboards a deck printshop in CA uses Quincy (who I thought stopped producing)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcVyjVRJZkR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

He uses a lot of different wood, whatever he can source. Has BBS at times.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on April 17, 2022, 06:17:58 AM

Do we have a thread of full round noses? Ones like;

FA
Hockey
Quasi
GX1000
WKND

Just wondering what else is out there in the full nose gang

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 17, 2022, 12:31:20 PM

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Do we have a thread of full round noses? Ones like;

FA
Hockey
Quasi
GX1000
WKND

Just wondering what else is out there in the full nose gang

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Snack
Glue

I guess it depends how "full" you want them, but a couple of others I had seen include:


Real Full / Full SE
Baker B2 shaped boards



Those all come from either BBS or PS Stix, but there are also Dwindle boards in a Full shape out there, along with a couple of other woodshops that make more full shapes for some boards.

Just cannot recall anything right this minute though, as far as specifics.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 17, 2022, 12:34:38 PM

From last week, but best on a new page:


***   NEW POLL   ***


So I added a Woodshop poll, thinking it would be interesting to know if this thread is even warranted, or to what degree people would use it to determine what board to buy.

Not a big deal really, as there are probably more people who would check very specific board information on here more than the general public but it has five options, from "Yes absolutely" through "Indifferent either way" to "No never" so at least there are all options covered.

Sorry no option for Fred Gall in this one, but you can always add  "Absolutely Fred Gall" or "No never Fred Gall" in comments if you want to.


Just something I thought would be a little interesting, but I know I am overly crazy about my choice of concave and woodshop for my own board, maybe more than any other part of a setup, but it is close.


* From results so far, at least I feel justified in trying to get as much into this thread, but I know I still need to go through and add more pics and info to the first page with different manufacturers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mon on April 17, 2022, 06:07:55 PM

Does anyone know anything about this manufacturer? They do a Filipino brand called Agenda, great boards.

Cheers


(https://i.ibb.co/fGgGTqc/757630-CC-8099-44-EE-946-E-E4-BAAD9-EFCA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGgGTqc)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on April 17, 2022, 08:29:09 PM

Quote from: Mon on April 17, 2022, 06:07:55 PM

Does anyone know anything about this manufacturer? They do a Filipino brand called Agenda, great boards.

Cheers


(https://i.ibb.co/fGgGTqc/757630-CC-8099-44-EE-946-E-E4-BAAD9-EFCA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGgGTqc)

I've seen that name on another local brand in Asia, I'll give the guy behind it a DM. Decks through that woodshop feel really light and stiff, almost like a DSM without the extreme stiffness.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ambiguousclarity on April 17, 2022, 09:47:12 PM

Does anyone know anything about the Australian brand Eternal Skateboards? I've just set up one of their decks and I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on April 17, 2022, 10:49:15 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 15, 2022, 07:20:56 AM

Dr skateboards a deck printshop in CA uses Quincy (who I thought stopped producing)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcVyjVRJZkR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I heard this too, but my local gets their shop decks pressed by Quincy and I asked fairly recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 18, 2022, 03:31:21 AM

Their old instagram "quincywoodwrights" is now gone and this account has not been updated since 2019.

Anyone else got any more info?



https://www.instagram.com/p/BwKO3kWlkFq/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw16BfaFbPY/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mon on April 18, 2022, 06:14:06 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 17, 2022, 08:29:09 PM

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Does anyone know anything about this manufacturer? They do a Filipino brand called Agenda, great boards.

Cheers


(https://i.ibb.co/fGgGTqc/757630-CC-8099-44-EE-946-E-E4-BAAD9-EFCA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGgGTqc)

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I've seen that name on another local brand in Asia, I'll give the guy behind it a DM. Decks through that woodshop feel really light and stiff, almost like a DSM without the extreme stiffness.

That would be awesome! They have this square shape, I really dig them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2022, 07:47:57 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 17, 2022, 09:47:12 PM

Does anyone know anything about the Australian brand Eternal Skateboards? I've just set up one of their decks and I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences.

I am in Brisbane, they are based on the Sunshine Coast, through Trinity Distribution, under which Eternal is their own brand, established in 1992.

The few Eternal / Trinity decks I have had come through my hands over the years along with the boards that people have had that I have skated are good solid decks, no issues with them, but apart from that, I don't have any other information.

Like a lot of brands that do their own, they sourced their own woodshop for the product, which is not known, but any which way, they are able to keep supply up and prices down and people like their boards, so you should be on a winner there.

They did have a flatter version and a steeper version at one point, but I didn't see any current info on that.


https://www.eternalskateboards.com/


Lots of boards on sale here right now too:

https://www.trinitydistribution.com.au/decks/eternal/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on April 20, 2022, 05:28:29 AM

Quote from: joaqp on April 15, 2022, 06:57:35 AM

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Maybe some one in here could help me. Long story shot I'm skating a Shake Junt 8.25x32. I'm in love with the deck. I'm pretty sure its BBS wood. Does anyone else use this mold/shape? How would I even find out?
 Shake Junts other decks aren't labeled the same as this one. This concave isn't like a Baker.

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Is it a current deck and have you measured it for the basic dimensions like wheelbase, length, etc?

Check what is still listed here:


https://shakejunt.com/collections/boards


https://shakejunt.com/collections/boards/products/beagle-caddy-deck-8-25


8.25" x 31.5"
14.25" Wheelbase
Mellow Concave / OG Shape


Some other places have something similar in longer and shorter options from 31.75 to 32, wheelbase varies from 14.12 to 14.35 and so on but I don't really think they are different boards to what usually comes out of Bakerboys, through BBS as they have a pretty solid supply going on there. 

Could be wrong though.


Another one:

https://socalskateshop.com/Shake-Junt-Beagle-Caddy-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-75.html

Deck Specs:

Width: 8.25"
Length: 31.75"
Wheelbase: 14.125"
Nose: 7"
Tail: 6.625"

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The dimensions look fairly similar to  limosine 8.25 shovel nose deck (also BBS). Dimensions are 8.25” x 31.82 and 14.13”wheelbase. That 14.13 wheelbase on a 8.25 looks really interesting to me. I think this is also similar to the FA/hockey 8.25 but im hoping the nose and tail aren’t as steep. I want to try this shape out with some venture 5.6 standards.

I'll have to check the Limosine's out. This Shake Junt deck does have a 14.13 WB, not 14.25 as advertised on the sticker! It's the fighting chicken graphic. Horrible, I know, But the shape and concave are dreamy. For me anyways. Thanks guys!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on April 21, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

DGK (current drop) still China. Sweet ass shape.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2LDpT/IMG-2580.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yc2LDpT)

Small dot/indent on the bottom/roadside between the front truck holes
(https://i.ibb.co/m9LybcS/IMG-2582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9LybcS)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Idk on April 21, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Xen on April 21, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

DGK (current drop) still China. Sweet ass shape.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2LDpT/IMG-2580.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yc2LDpT)

Small dot/indent on the bottom/roadside between the front truck holes
(https://i.ibb.co/m9LybcS/IMG-2582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9LybcS)

Whats the shape like?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 21, 2022, 04:34:46 PM

Quote from: Idk on April 21, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Xen on April 21, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

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DGK (current drop) still China. Sweet ass shape.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2LDpT/IMG-2580.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yc2LDpT)

Small dot/indent on the bottom/roadside between the front truck holes
(https://i.ibb.co/m9LybcS/IMG-2582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9LybcS)

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Whats the shape like?

And the concave compared to BBS boards?

Someone was saying they were trying to copy the BBS concave as close as they could, but someone else said it was just the standard unknown China concave, similar to Dwindle and pretty much standard flat kicks, no spoon through from bolts to tip.


* And thanks for posting!!!  Always curious when brands with well established product start to go a different way, as have many big brands for some if not all their boards of late.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on April 21, 2022, 05:16:10 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 21, 2022, 04:34:46 PM

Quote from: Idk on April 21, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

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Quote from: Xen on April 21, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

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DGK (current drop) still China. Sweet ass shape.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2LDpT/IMG-2580.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yc2LDpT)

Small dot/indent on the bottom/roadside between the front truck holes
(https://i.ibb.co/m9LybcS/IMG-2582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9LybcS)

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Whats the shape like?

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And the concave compared to BBS boards?

Someone was saying they were trying to copy the BBS concave as close as they could, but someone else said it was just the standard unknown China concave, similar to Dwindle and pretty much standard flat kicks, no spoon through from bolts to tip.


* And thanks for posting!!!  Always curious when brands with well established product start to go a different way, as have many big brands for some if not all their boards of late.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3781390#msg3781390

PlanB style nose (round/full/short) but with a standard popsicle vibe
Baker-style tail (pointy)
Medium concave
Medium/Mellow kicks
(https://i.ibb.co/st18HrR/IMG-2590.jpg) (https://ibb.co/st18HrR)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on April 21, 2022, 05:18:15 PM

Quote from: Idk on April 21, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Xen on April 21, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

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DGK (current drop) still China. Sweet ass shape.

(https://i.ibb.co/Yc2LDpT/IMG-2580.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yc2LDpT)

Small dot/indent on the bottom/roadside between the front truck holes
(https://i.ibb.co/m9LybcS/IMG-2582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9LybcS)

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Whats the shape like?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3781390#msg3781390

I can't be bothered to re-size them and put them all in one post.

Nose
(https://i.ibb.co/2q6qrYN/IMG-2585.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2q6qrYN)

Tail
(https://i.ibb.co/y0Qh0J7/IMG-2586.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y0Qh0J7)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ambiguousclarity on April 22, 2022, 03:06:54 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2022, 07:47:57 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 17, 2022, 09:47:12 PM

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Does anyone know anything about the Australian brand Eternal Skateboards? I've just set up one of their decks and I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences.

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I am in Brisbane, they are based on the Sunshine Coast, through Trinity Distribution, under which Eternal is their own brand, established in 1992.

The few Eternal / Trinity decks I have had come through my hands over the years along with the boards that people have had that I have skated are good solid decks, no issues with them, but apart from that, I don't have any other information.

Like a lot of brands that do their own, they sourced their own woodshop for the product, which is not known, but any which way, they are able to keep supply up and prices down and people like their boards, so you should be on a winner there.

They did have a flatter version and a steeper version at one point, but I didn't see any current info on that.


https://www.eternalskateboards.com/


Lots of boards on sale here right now too:

https://www.trinitydistribution.com.au/decks/eternal/

Thanks for sharing what you know Mbrimson88. I've been skating an Eternal 8.625 the past two weeks. It feels thinner and lighter than the Madness decks I've been riding lately. I'm enjoying it so I ordered another two decks, which I received today. One is shaped, and looks to have been made at a different woodshop than the one used for making their popsicles. The nose and tail aren't symmetrical. Despite this, I'm looking forward to setting it up. The two popsicle decks feel like they've been made well. Concave is medium. Noses on the popsicles are steeper relative to what I've been riding lately. The paint on the bottom of the deck comes off very easily, which I don't mind. I'd prefer it without the paint.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ambiguousclarity on April 22, 2022, 05:15:34 AM

Did a bit of digging and it looks like the Eternal decks are made by a company called Direct Skate Supply. Factory is in China. https://directskatesupply.com/about/

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 22, 2022, 03:06:54 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2022, 07:47:57 PM

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Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 17, 2022, 09:47:12 PM

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Does anyone know anything about the Australian brand Eternal Skateboards? I've just set up one of their decks and I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences.

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I am in Brisbane, they are based on the Sunshine Coast, through Trinity Distribution, under which Eternal is their own brand, established in 1992.

The few Eternal / Trinity decks I have had come through my hands over the years along with the boards that people have had that I have skated are good solid decks, no issues with them, but apart from that, I don't have any other information.

Like a lot of brands that do their own, they sourced their own woodshop for the product, which is not known, but any which way, they are able to keep supply up and prices down and people like their boards, so you should be on a winner there.

They did have a flatter version and a steeper version at one point, but I didn't see any current info on that.


https://www.eternalskateboards.com/


Lots of boards on sale here right now too:

https://www.trinitydistribution.com.au/decks/eternal/

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Thanks for sharing what you know Mbrimson88. I've been skating an Eternal 8.625 the past two weeks. It feels thinner and lighter than the Madness decks I've been riding lately. I'm enjoying it so I ordered another two decks, which I received today. One is shaped, and looks to have been made at a different woodshop than the one used for making their popsicles. The nose and tail aren't symmetrical. Despite this, I'm looking forward to setting it up. The two popsicle decks feel like they've been made well. Concave is medium. Noses on the popsicles are steeper relative to what I've been riding lately. The paint on the bottom of the deck comes off very easily, which I don't mind. I'd prefer it without the paint.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 22, 2022, 04:25:39 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 22, 2022, 05:15:34 AM

Did a bit of digging and it looks like the Eternal decks are made by a company called Direct Skate Supply. Factory is in China. https://directskatesupply.com/about/

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 22, 2022, 03:06:54 AM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2022, 07:47:57 PM

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Quote from: ambiguousclarity on April 17, 2022, 09:47:12 PM

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Does anyone know anything about the Australian brand Eternal Skateboards? I've just set up one of their decks and I'm curious to hear about other people's experiences.

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I am in Brisbane, they are based on the Sunshine Coast, through Trinity Distribution, under which Eternal is their own brand, established in 1992.

The few Eternal / Trinity decks I have had come through my hands over the years along with the boards that people have had that I have skated are good solid decks, no issues with them, but apart from that, I don't have any other information.

Like a lot of brands that do their own, they sourced their own woodshop for the product, which is not known, but any which way, they are able to keep supply up and prices down and people like their boards, so you should be on a winner there.

They did have a flatter version and a steeper version at one point, but I didn't see any current info on that.


https://www.eternalskateboards.com/


Lots of boards on sale here right now too:

https://www.trinitydistribution.com.au/decks/eternal/

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Thanks for sharing what you know Mbrimson88. I've been skating an Eternal 8.625 the past two weeks. It feels thinner and lighter than the Madness decks I've been riding lately. I'm enjoying it so I ordered another two decks, which I received today. One is shaped, and looks to have been made at a different woodshop than the one used for making their popsicles. The nose and tail aren't symmetrical. Despite this, I'm looking forward to setting it up. The two popsicle decks feel like they've been made well. Concave is medium. Noses on the popsicles are steeper relative to what I've been riding lately. The paint on the bottom of the deck comes off very easily, which I don't mind. I'd prefer it without the paint.

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Direct is also owned by and under Trinity Distribution, but I haven't heard anything for a while on that front.

The pandemic might have been the reason for starting a "direct to customer" type business along with other distributors having supply issues or lack of boards from some manufacturers causing issues about that time too.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CDz90KPFN4k/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: asbestos on April 23, 2022, 07:14:53 AM

skull skates decks are made thru control. most of them have a “2” pressed onto the top ply and the same made in canada sticker

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 23, 2022, 05:22:50 PM

Quote from: asbestos on April 23, 2022, 07:14:53 AM

skull skates decks are made thru control. most of them have a “2” pressed onto the top ply and the same made in canada sticker

Thanks!

I thought I had them on there, but see I did not.

Added now though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: joaqp on April 29, 2022, 12:12:14 PM

I just bought the 8.25 (14.12 wb)limosine “shovel nose” deck shipped to me. I opened it up and it is definitely not a shovel nose. The board that I received was a tapered shape and did not look like the full shape they had on their website. It has the same graphic but the shape is totally different. Has anyone else had this problem? I guess this is what I get for buying online…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 29, 2022, 06:33:44 PM

Quote from: joaqp on April 29, 2022, 12:12:14 PM

I just bought the 8.25 (14.12 wb)limosine “shovel nose” deck shipped to me. I opened it up and it is definitely not a shovel nose. The board that I received was a tapered shape and did not look like the full shape they had on their website. It has the same graphic but the shape is totally different. Has anyone else had this problem? I guess this is what I get for buying online…

I am guessing it still has the usual BBS warning sticker and dot?

Others certainly have had issues with some countries or even some boards being different to what looks like it is size wise or as advertised on the brand website, but I also wonder if there are a couple of shapes of the same graphic and this is the "other" shape, or a more generic one, compared to the specific shovel shape I think of when I hear that.

Was it this one (even the pic doesn't look very shovel nose like - maybe a little full but not shovel):

https://limosineskateboards.com/products/snake-pit-8-25-shovel-nose


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/5067/5676/products/snakePit825_shovelnose_topcopy_1100x.png)


This is a pretty bad / extreme example of a "shovel nose" but this is more what I think of with that term:


(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/205981529/shovelnosecomposite.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 29, 2022, 06:44:10 PM

That Limosine deck (as per the sixth frame in this post) looks even less square than the usual shapes from some brands, like AWS / Habitat, FA / Hockey, etc.  A recent post of a couple of those boards, nose pic a bit blurry but it still shows the shape.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CXg01ZAP2KW/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc5BLD2pU5f/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: joaqp on April 30, 2022, 10:13:18 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 29, 2022, 06:33:44 PM

Quote from: joaqp on April 29, 2022, 12:12:14 PM

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I just bought the 8.25 (14.12 wb)limosine “shovel nose” deck shipped to me. I opened it up and it is definitely not a shovel nose. The board that I received was a tapered shape and did not look like the full shape they had on their website. It has the same graphic but the shape is totally different. Has anyone else had this problem? I guess this is what I get for buying online…

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I am guessing it still has the usual BBS warning sticker and dot?

Others certainly have had issues with some countries or even some boards being different to what looks like it is size wise or as advertised on the brand website, but I also wonder if there are a couple of shapes of the same graphic and this is the "other" shape, or a more generic one, compared to the specific shovel shape I think of when I hear that.

Was it this one (even the pic doesn't look very shovel nose like - maybe a little full but not shovel):

https://limosineskateboards.com/products/snake-pit-8-25-shovel-nose


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/5067/5676/products/snakePit825_shovelnose_topcopy_1100x.png)


This is a pretty bad / extreme example of a "shovel nose" but this is more what I think of with that term:


(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/205981529/shovelnosecomposite.jpg)

Yeah, I usually skate quasi/gx1000 which both have fuller noses so when I saw this shape out the box it surprised me. Comparing the website photo to my photo, it is definitely a different shape and is more similar to the other 8.25 board they have on their website.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2022, 10:48:02 AM

Quote from: joaqp on April 30, 2022, 10:13:18 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 29, 2022, 06:33:44 PM

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I just bought the 8.25 (14.12 wb)limosine “shovel nose” deck shipped to me. I opened it up and it is definitely not a shovel nose. The board that I received was a tapered shape and did not look like the full shape they had on their website. It has the same graphic but the shape is totally different. Has anyone else had this problem? I guess this is what I get for buying online…

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I am guessing it still has the usual BBS warning sticker and dot?

Others certainly have had issues with some countries or even some boards being different to what looks like it is size wise or as advertised on the brand website, but I also wonder if there are a couple of shapes of the same graphic and this is the "other" shape, or a more generic one, compared to the specific shovel shape I think of when I hear that.

Was it this one (even the pic doesn't look very shovel nose like - maybe a little full but not shovel):

https://limosineskateboards.com/products/snake-pit-8-25-shovel-nose


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/5067/5676/products/snakePit825_shovelnose_topcopy_1100x.png)


This is a pretty bad / extreme example of a "shovel nose" but this is more what I think of with that term:


(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/205981529/shovelnosecomposite.jpg)

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Yeah, I usually skate quasi/gx1000 which both have fuller noses so when I saw this shape out the box it surprised me. Comparing the website photo to my photo, it is definitely a different shape and is more similar to the other 8.25 board they have on their website.

It’s frustrating to not get what you want.


The board you did get looks really fucking good, to me, tho. Damn.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: joaqp on April 30, 2022, 01:00:46 PM

@Ok
Haha, its a bummer but I’m going to try it out. Maybe this will change my preferences

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 30, 2022, 10:58:55 PM

Quote from: joaqp on April 30, 2022, 10:13:18 AM

Yeah, I usually skate quasi/gx1000 which both have fuller noses so when I saw this shape out the box it surprised me. Comparing the website photo to my photo, it is definitely a different shape and is more similar to the other 8.25 board they have on their website.

That is nothing like the other pic they show!

At least skate it and see, but I would be sending them a polite message just asking about it anyway.

I have Baker and other BBS boards in about the 8.25 size that look pretty much like that, very tapered kicks not at all even remotely rounded or square.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 01, 2022, 11:15:46 PM

I see Toy Machine/Foundation is labeled as BBS for 2022, but have heard they were using random woodshops lately. Anyone know if they're back on track? I have a random urge to get a Fist graphic deck

https://toymachine.com/fists-8-25-ii.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 02, 2022, 03:45:47 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 01, 2022, 11:15:46 PM

I see Toy Machine/Foundation is labeled as BBS for 2022, but have heard they were using random woodshops lately. Anyone know if they're back on track? I have a random urge to get a Fist graphic deck

https://toymachine.com/fists-8-25-ii.html

I think it might be best to message them directly.

Being in AU, I have not much of an idea besides what people are posting, mainly BBS decks from Toy Machine more recently, but some US shops that are good at showing the tops like Skate Warehouse have a mix of PS Stix, BBS and even what looks like Clutch for the 8.0 Fists deck.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html


Others might be able to help more though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2022, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 02, 2022, 03:45:47 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 01, 2022, 11:15:46 PM

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I see Toy Machine/Foundation is labeled as BBS for 2022, but have heard they were using random woodshops lately. Anyone know if they're back on track? I have a random urge to get a Fist graphic deck

https://toymachine.com/fists-8-25-ii.html

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I think it might be best to message them directly.

Being in AU, I have not much of an idea besides what people are posting, mainly BBS decks from Toy Machine more recently, but some US shops that are good at showing the tops like Skate Warehouse have a mix of PS Stix, BBS and even what looks like Clutch for the 8.0 Fists deck.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html


Others might be able to help more though.

Further searching still doesn't come up with anything much.

The only thing I do seem to find is that the "team editions" of most of the boards are now from China, more than anywhere else, including here in AU, some in other places round the world and the one from the link in the UK here:


https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/toy-machine-fists-large-skateboard-deck-825-x-32-park-street-ramp-green--griptape-23008-p.asp


Some of the pro boards are on BBS, many of the other pro boards are on PS Stix and all the rest including team boards and more generic graphics seems to be more from the China made boards, as is the same with a lot more companies lately.

I guess it is just cheaper for them to do specific boards on the good wood and all the rest on the other stuff, so if you do find one in a shop, check the top, or ask the shop person to check the top including where it was made, as per the warning sticker, or if there is anything else showing on it that would indicate where it was from.

From what I have seen:

Black / white warning stickers over bolts are BBS

Red / white warning sticker above bolts area, with laser engraving showing PS Stix


Generic warning sticker over bolts, sometimes in different colours and no "Made in..." is China.



(https://15.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/adminconflict/images/toy-machine-fists-large-skateboard-deck-8.25-x-32-park-street-ramp-green-griptape-[2]-23008-p.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 02, 2022, 09:15:07 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 02, 2022, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 02, 2022, 03:45:47 AM

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Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 01, 2022, 11:15:46 PM

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I see Toy Machine/Foundation is labeled as BBS for 2022, but have heard they were using random woodshops lately. Anyone know if they're back on track? I have a random urge to get a Fist graphic deck

https://toymachine.com/fists-8-25-ii.html

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I think it might be best to message them directly.

Being in AU, I have not much of an idea besides what people are posting, mainly BBS decks from Toy Machine more recently, but some US shops that are good at showing the tops like Skate Warehouse have a mix of PS Stix, BBS and even what looks like Clutch for the 8.0 Fists deck.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html


Others might be able to help more though.

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Further searching still doesn't come up with anything much.

The only thing I do seem to find is that the "team editions" of most of the boards are now from China, more than anywhere else, including here in AU, some in other places round the world and the one from the link in the UK here:


https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/toy-machine-fists-large-skateboard-deck-825-x-32-park-street-ramp-green--griptape-23008-p.asp


Some of the pro boards are on BBS, many of the other pro boards are on PS Stix and all the rest including team boards and more generic graphics seems to be more from the China made boards, as is the same with a lot more companies lately.

I guess it is just cheaper for them to do specific boards on the good wood and all the rest on the other stuff, so if you do find one in a shop, check the top, or ask the shop person to check the top including where it was made, as per the warning sticker, or if there is anything else showing on it that would indicate where it was from.

From what I have seen:

Black / white warning stickers over bolts are BBS

Red / white warning sticker above bolts area, with laser engraving showing PS Stix


Generic warning sticker over bolts, sometimes in different colours and no "Made in..." is China.



(https://15.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/adminconflict/images/toy-machine-fists-large-skateboard-deck-8.25-x-32-park-street-ramp-green-griptape-[2]-23008-p.jpg)

Amazing as always. Thanks for digging all this up! I might hold off unless I can check it out in person

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on May 02, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

Anybody had a frog, that they like?

I’m looking for an 8.5 deck, but the most important measurement isn’t the width: I just need the board to be close to 32”, but not greater than 32”. This rules out a lot of dlx shapes.

Baker would also be a go, seems like they make less b2s.

Anyways, if anyone has an 8.5 recommendation for a stranger, that’d be great. Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 03, 2022, 06:07:18 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on May 02, 2022, 09:15:07 PM

Amazing as always. Thanks for digging all this up! I might hold off unless I can check it out in person

Easy!


Just something else to note, as I forgot to mention it earlier.


As far as quality of the board, regardless of concave, others I know who do have these Toy Machine decks (and other brands that would come under "unknown" woodshop from China) have all said that those boards are comparable in quality and they had no issues with how they skated.

For me it is all about the woodshop press / concave of the end result, so if I got a board I was hoping was a certain concave but was something else, that is a deal breaker right there.

With those two things in mind, I know people who could easily get any board and still skate it well, but then I know myself, anything with different concave just feels weird and although it might be an excellent deck, it just wouldn't be a good skate for me for the whole time I am on it, as I had forced myself to skate a few boards like that in recent years, just to see what it was like.

Seeing something in person is always the best way, but it is getting increasingly harder for some people to go somewhere and stand on twenty boards to choose one, when compared to buying twenty online and maybe having a few perfect hits but a few near misses as well.

Good luck in your deck hunting anyway!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2022, 06:28:43 AM

Quote from: Ok on May 02, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

Anybody had a frog, that they like?

I’m looking for an 8.5 deck, but the most important measurement isn’t the width: I just need the board to be close to 32”, but not greater than 32”. This rules out a lot of dlx shapes.

Baker would also be a go, seems like they make less b2s.

Anyways, if anyone has an 8.5 recommendation for a stranger, that’d be great. Thanks

What would be your ideal dimensions?


The main reason I ask is that many BBS wood boards up in the 8.38 through 8.5 range are usually a bit over 32, often with 14.5 wb on the 8.5 size boards, but some brands do have the shorter wheelbase and in turn shorter deck overall as well.

Quite a number of them list the length of the 8.5 as 32 even but almost all I have measured or skated are a bit over that, including Baker, Deathwish, Passport all having those same dimensions but being more like or exactly the same size overall as the Frog board, eg

Frog Cursed (Milic) Deck 8.5

Width: 8.5"

Length: 32.25"

Wheelbase: 14.5"


That said, there is the DLX board in 8.5 that is the shorter one, but a lot of people say the board listed as 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb is in fact only 8.3 wide anyway, which is often a good size, but not if you wanted a wider board to start with.

The Real tropical series with shorter wheelbases had a good one at 8.5 x 32 with 14.1 or so if I recall correctly, but also the new short AH boards at 8.5 x 31.7 with 14 even wb.


Some other brands do something in about the 8.5 to 8.6 x 31.8 (almost 32) with 14.25 wb which I will look for, but also the other AH shorter version 8.75 x 31.7 with 14.25 seems like it would be good with those dimensions too.  I know that is not the question right now, but I seem to recall a number of people being quite keen on the 8.75 sizes, maybe "Off" more so than "Ok" in the Slap pals list.


* I do find that those BBS 8.5 boards are a really good shape and work very well, as per this post from a while back now, but I am still really happy with the 8.5 size, 14.5 wheelbase, 6.75" tail, 7.1 or so nose and whatever that ends up being in overall length is nice, but might be a touch longer than what you are after.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: disappointed on May 09, 2022, 04:01:38 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

Yeah, for me, this just loses customers in the long run and devalues the product. Once a brand starts chopping and changing, I’m out. I just don’t need the headache.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nitro89 on May 09, 2022, 04:57:40 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

I bought an 8.38 Desarmo from primitive last month from there latest drop believing it was going to be bbs wood however it turned up with a 'made in china' label on it with the single dot on the front truck bolts.

the shape is lovely, super mellow, straight rails and nice big tail. all the specs match up to the deck sizes on there website. so no loss there more of a bonus if anything.

so i decided to buy another 8.38 Desarmo primitive from a previous drop to sit on ice while i skate the first one thinking it would be the same shape etc. but its not. the specs are all different.

the second deck had a 'made in mexico' sticker on it so I'm pretty sure its bbs wood.

china (unknown woodshop) = 31.88 x 8.38 w/14.1875 wb (same specs shown on primitive website)

Mexico (BBS) = 31.925 x 8.38 w/ 14.2 wb

kind of frustrating tbh but what can you do. might have to stop ordering online if this is going to be a recurring theme with board companies for a while.

what other companies are people seeing these kind of issues with?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SaySo on May 09, 2022, 05:24:37 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

Most shops and skaters I know in Japan (Tokyo/Saitama area) couldn't care less where their decks are sourced from.

However, thus far, everything I've come across recently in my neck of the woods (Tokyo) at most skate shops has jived with the listings of the "Current Woodshed Directory 2022" list. But I've been paying attention primarily to PS Stix, BBS, and Pennswood produced brands.

Will update if anything changes.

***EDIT***

Tangentially related - my homie's shop recently started carrying ChicoStix, so for anyone in Japan who's looking for them.

https://riverbirchskateshop.com (https://riverbirchskateshop.com)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 11, 2022, 09:08:50 PM

Quote from: nitro89 on May 09, 2022, 04:57:40 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

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I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

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I bought an 8.38 Desarmo from primitive last month from there latest drop believing it was going to be bbs wood however it turned up with a 'made in china' label on it with the single dot on the front truck bolts.

the shape is lovely, super mellow, straight rails and nice big tail. all the specs match up to the deck sizes on there website. so no loss there more of a bonus if anything.

so i decided to buy another 8.38 Desarmo primitive from a previous drop to sit on ice while i skate the first one thinking it would be the same shape etc. but its not. the specs are all different.

the second deck had a 'made in mexico' sticker on it so I'm pretty sure its bbs wood.

china (unknown woodshop) = 31.88 x 8.38 w/14.1875 wb (same specs shown on primitive website)

Mexico (BBS) = 31.925 x 8.38 w/ 14.2 wb

kind of frustrating tbh but what can you do. might have to stop ordering online if this is going to be a recurring theme with board companies for a while.

what other companies are people seeing these kind of issues with?

Not sure how many others, but off the top of my head there are quite a few including Element, Doom Sayers, DGK, Birdhouse, who were all BBS and some now showing as "Made in China" or not having the usual BBS stickers or made in information.

It was noted that Darkroom had to source wood elsewhere with delays but are back on BBS now (as per the board I have from them more recently), as were Uma Landsleds from last year, but I haven't seen new product from them so don't know.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 11, 2022, 09:10:44 PM

Quote from: Xen on May 11, 2022, 11:16:03 AM

Recent haul:
8.3 Quasi Henry twin

(https://i.ibb.co/h73VSDb/IMG-2675.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h73VSDb)



It has the BBS dot...so I'm going with BBS.

(https://i.ibb.co/VQgHSgk/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VQgHSgk)

Also has sweet ass matching top/middle plys

(https://i.ibb.co/YRc5xCS/unnamed-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YRc5xCS)

Copied from the "Bought recently" thread, good pics of BBS wood Quasi deck.

Thank you XEN!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on May 12, 2022, 05:16:39 AM

Looking forward to seeing some BBS Quasi in Australia to compare it from the PS Stix. I did enjoy the PS shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: vicious cycle on May 13, 2022, 01:00:44 AM

Does anyone has some info about Censorship Skateboards ?
It's Roberto Alemañ's brand out of Spain.
I wonder where the decks are being made.
Edit: I found a shop were it says "made in Spain" so it's hlc I guess ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 13, 2022, 03:47:12 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 13, 2022, 01:00:44 AM

Does anyone has some info about Censorship Skateboards ?
It's Roberto Alemañ's brand out of Spain.
I wonder where the decks are being made.
Edit: I found a shop were it says "made in Spain" so it's hlc I guess ?

I would say that is correct then.


This instagram post has a good top view, but nothing as to where it was made anyway.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc-nFJyMY8M/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: behavioralguide on May 13, 2022, 05:25:55 AM

looking for a mellow shape that goes with my big(ger) wheels.

Preferably big fat round nose & tail (doesn't have to be shovel) somewhere between 8 and 8.5.

what brands (/manufacturers) to look for?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2022, 05:15:35 PM

Quote from: behavioralguide on May 13, 2022, 05:25:55 AM

looking for a mellow shape that goes with my big(ger) wheels.

Preferably big fat round nose & tail (doesn't have to be shovel) somewhere between 8 and 8.5.

what brands (/manufacturers) to look for?

I guess it is down to what is available, but for me a lot of BBS brands have good shapes, mellow concave and are often easy enough to get, but depending on brand preference or where you are, there are a lot more options.

Even between different shapes from the same brand, there can often be a fair number of better shapes for that sort of thing and some that might not work so well.

Were you thinking Baker / Birdhouse / or similar shapes as per the post earlier on this page with big round kicks, or something more stubby and squared off like the Alien Workshop / Habitat shapes as per this post below?


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc5BLD2pU5f/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on May 15, 2022, 10:32:19 PM

Quote from: behavioralguide on May 13, 2022, 05:25:55 AM

looking for a mellow shape that goes with my big(ger) wheels.

Preferably big fat round nose & tail (doesn't have to be shovel) somewhere between 8 and 8.5.

what brands (/manufacturers) to look for?

Polar is the go I reckon. Some come with the wheel cutouts too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 16, 2022, 01:55:18 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on May 15, 2022, 10:32:19 PM

Quote from: behavioralguide on May 13, 2022, 05:25:55 AM

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looking for a mellow shape that goes with my big(ger) wheels.

Preferably big fat round nose & tail (doesn't have to be shovel) somewhere between 8 and 8.5.

what brands (/manufacturers) to look for?

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Polar is the go I reckon. Some come with the wheel cutouts too.

They do have good shapes, often a little shorter wheelbases so a bit more in the kicks too.

There are lots in that category, especially in the 8.5 sizes as they are more rounded than the smaller boards, when lining them all up, eg an 8 on 8.1 on 8.25 on 8.38 on 8.5, the 8.5 will often be more rounded.

Exceptions to that including boards from AWS which are more long and stubby, as per pics and info above.


Others on the BBS list besides those above I have / had include Passport, Black Label, even April if you want shorter wheelbases.

DLX boards in the Full SE versions, especially III and IV stamped boards are more on the mellow side and all of them have big rounded kicks.


Some of the others are a little steeper overall, including Polar in the boards I have had, but they are still more in the medium concave range, definitely not like FA / Hockey boards anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nitro89 on May 16, 2022, 04:31:06 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 11, 2022, 09:08:50 PM

Quote from: nitro89 on May 09, 2022, 04:57:40 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on May 09, 2022, 03:25:57 AM

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I know it has already been said, but it seems like more and more of the bigger well established brands are turning to cheaper boards from China or "unknown" places.

A few more board brands I saw just recently didn't have the usual stickers and were not the same wood as what they had been before when I went into a shop and had a stand on a lot of boards.


I do wonder too if this is not just here in AU with certain distributors, or if it is world wide with everything under that specific brand, as a way of cutting costs and still getting their product out there.


Anyone else find their usual boards are not what they thought they were from the last time you got one?

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I bought an 8.38 Desarmo from primitive last month from there latest drop believing it was going to be bbs wood however it turned up with a 'made in china' label on it with the single dot on the front truck bolts.

the shape is lovely, super mellow, straight rails and nice big tail. all the specs match up to the deck sizes on there website. so no loss there more of a bonus if anything.

so i decided to buy another 8.38 Desarmo primitive from a previous drop to sit on ice while i skate the first one thinking it would be the same shape etc. but its not. the specs are all different.

the second deck had a 'made in mexico' sticker on it so I'm pretty sure its bbs wood.

china (unknown woodshop) = 31.88 x 8.38 w/14.1875 wb (same specs shown on primitive website)

Mexico (BBS) = 31.925 x 8.38 w/ 14.2 wb

kind of frustrating tbh but what can you do. might have to stop ordering online if this is going to be a recurring theme with board companies for a while.

what other companies are people seeing these kind of issues with?

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Not sure how many others, but off the top of my head there are quite a few including Element, Doom Sayers, DGK, Birdhouse, who were all BBS and some now showing as "Made in China" or not having the usual BBS stickers or made in information.

It was noted that Darkroom had to source wood elsewhere with delays but are back on BBS now (as per the board I have from them more recently), as were Uma Landsleds from last year, but I haven't seen new product from them so don't know.

so after roiling out last saturday ive had to take off my 'chinese made' pro primitive deck.

i skated it maybe 10 hours total and its sogged out something horrible!

i ollied onto the down rail at my local for a boardslide no different than i always do and i felt it go all limp as i made contact with the rail. could see the tail flex loads after just by standing, let alone setting up to pop anything sounded dead too.

the fact its done that and hasnt cracked is fooking annoying!

i stopped skating ps stix for that exact reason so im gutted theres now another woodshop out there to be aware of.

check the top labels in your local shop or ask them on the phone before you make your orders online so you dont get caught out like me and end up with a sub par wooden wife.

ive slapped on the BBS made primitive i had on ice now so looking forward to getting a session in on some solid wood this week weather permitting.

ive seen three different label types on primitive decks now after doing some website searching yesterday.

'made in' - America, Mexico, China.

so be careful with your purchases peeps and always locate those BBS badboys if you can.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on May 17, 2022, 02:58:59 AM

i've been reading here that there's a drop in quality of bbs boards and for what it's worth i snapped the nose a brand new alien workshop deck yesterday after 30 minutes of skating flatground.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 17, 2022, 04:48:34 AM

Quote from: roba on May 17, 2022, 02:58:59 AM

i've been reading here that there's a drop in quality of bbs boards and for what it's worth i snapped the nose a brand new alien workshop deck yesterday after 30 minutes of skating flatground.

It definitely seems like more people are saying they have snapped BBS boards, but I recall shortly after production came back online again around mid to late 2020, there were a number of complaints and people were saying it seemed like the boards were being rushed out and the quality was suffering as a result.

The thirty or so I have had since then have all been fine, no issues, but some others I skate with have said a board here or there was quick to break too, not just people online here, so who knows exactly what is going on...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 17, 2022, 05:15:32 AM

On another note, I am not sure if anyone has actually skated one of the Xinda / Foxen woodshop decks, but their instagram has some rather curious things, least of all driving over their boards and videos of them demonstrating quality by gently jumping on the decks.

Guessing there would be substantial differences between this and actual pressure from skateboarding, but who knows.

I will just stick to riding them, but I know some people say a board that has too much flex is not so good either.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CHA5A27F9eW/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca4L8uRFdmi/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on May 17, 2022, 07:34:07 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 03, 2022, 06:28:43 AM

Quote from: Ok on May 02, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

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Anybody had a frog, that they like?

I’m looking for an 8.5 deck, but the most important measurement isn’t the width: I just need the board to be close to 32”, but not greater than 32”. This rules out a lot of dlx shapes.

Baker would also be a go, seems like they make less b2s.

Anyways, if anyone has an 8.5 recommendation for a stranger, that’d be great. Thanks

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What would be your ideal dimensions?


The main reason I ask is that many BBS wood boards up in the 8.38 through 8.5 range are usually a bit over 32, often with 14.5 wb on the 8.5 size boards, but some brands do have the shorter wheelbase and in turn shorter deck overall as well.

Quite a number of them list the length of the 8.5 as 32 even but almost all I have measured or skated are a bit over that, including Baker, Deathwish, Passport all having those same dimensions but being more like or exactly the same size overall as the Frog board, eg

Frog Cursed (Milic) Deck 8.5

Width: 8.5"

Length: 32.25"

Wheelbase: 14.5"


That said, there is the DLX board in 8.5 that is the shorter one, but a lot of people say the board listed as 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb is in fact only 8.3 wide anyway, which is often a good size, but not if you wanted a wider board to start with.

The Real tropical series with shorter wheelbases had a good one at 8.5 x 32 with 14.1 or so if I recall correctly, but also the new short AH boards at 8.5 x 31.7 with 14 even wb.


Some other brands do something in about the 8.5 to 8.6 x 31.8 (almost 32) with 14.25 wb which I will look for, but also the other AH shorter version 8.75 x 31.7 with 14.25 seems like it would be good with those dimensions too.  I know that is not the question right now, but I seem to recall a number of people being quite keen on the 8.75 sizes, maybe "Off" more so than "Ok" in the Slap pals list.


* I do find that those BBS 8.5 boards are a really good shape and work very well, as per this post from a while back now, but I am still really happy with the 8.5 size, 14.5 wheelbase, 6.75" tail, 7.1 or so nose and whatever that ends up being in overall length is nice, but might be a touch longer than what you are after.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/

I forgot to check back on this thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on May 17, 2022, 02:15:09 PM

The Hearthrobs woodshop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 17, 2022, 05:53:41 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 17, 2022, 02:15:09 PM

The Hearthrobs woodshop?

Do you mean these guys?

Nothing on Instagram since 2013 but they had "Made in USA" in the tags.

Is there a new version of the company or something else?


https://www.instagram.com/p/TZMztUMOEB/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 17, 2022, 06:00:37 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on May 17, 2022, 02:15:09 PM

The Hearthrobs woodshop?

Edit:  Confirmed it is BBS (that was quick!)



Then there is this lot from 2020, which look more like BBS with the concave highlighted - curved kicks.


https://orchardshop.com/blogs/news/move-toward-a-better-world


https://orchardshop.com/collections/heartthrobs


Boards currently in stock, so they might be able to tell you if you hit them up.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0127/1812/files/new-heartthrobs-decks_grande.jpg)


Also found the newer instagram, which didn't come up first.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdRQARbJwXX/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 18, 2022, 10:37:04 PM

AMPT Skateshop in Arcata, CA

BBS wood as per board pic from this post:

Quote from: IusedToSkateMore on May 17, 2022, 03:30:53 PM

local shop deck. BBS/Generator wood. 8.5

Lots of options in this post too, shaped decks on the second pic.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CXy1XdLvF4Q/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 18, 2022, 10:42:02 PM

Quote from: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

Apart from seeing some in a couple of shops, there are not many round here, those I did see didn't have any info or anything on them really.

They are from HLC, which I recall seeing some board shapes and info somewhere, but not sure.


HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on May 18, 2022, 11:29:28 PM

Quote from: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

You can see the dimensions of decks from the last drop in the official page https://soursolution.club/collections/sp22
somewhere i read S1 is medium and S4 is mellow concave, but you can also see the photos of the decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on May 19, 2022, 12:24:14 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on May 18, 2022, 11:29:28 PM

Quote from: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

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Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

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You can see the dimensions of decks from the last drop in the official page https://soursolution.club/collections/sp22
somewhere i read S1 is medium and S4 is mellow concave, but you can also see the photos of the decks.

Here’s the HLC catalog with details on all the shapes they have.

https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hlc-oem-skateboard-catalog.pdf

Which is which in Sour is another question then but maybe it can be worked out from there somehow.

It’s still very baffling to me how they all have 14.2” wb except one old school shape with a 14.6” wb and then the mini decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: IUTSM on May 19, 2022, 11:20:19 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 18, 2022, 10:37:04 PM

AMPT Skateshop in Arcata, CA

BBS wood as per board pic from this post:

Quote from: IusedToSkateMore on May 17, 2022, 03:30:53 PM

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local shop deck. BBS/Generator wood. 8.5

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Lots of options in this post too, shaped decks on the second pic.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CXy1XdLvF4Q/

it's good wood. new graphic coming up soon from what I hear. under $50 with grip. can't go wrong

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: slappyjoes on May 19, 2022, 04:01:01 PM

Random question but does anyone know what woodshop zero was using for the shallow grave concave back when blackbox dist was still a thing?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 19, 2022, 06:08:59 PM

Quote from: slappyjoes on May 19, 2022, 04:01:01 PM

Random question but does anyone know what woodshop zero was using for the shallow grave concave back when blackbox dist was still a thing?

They actually had their own Black Box woodshop just over the border, which is gone now, but all of the boards at the peak of Zero, Mystery and Slave were from there, as well as any of their other brands like Threat, from 2000 until early 2014 or something.

Then they went to Dwindle wood and had a run there for a while, then changed again, Zero back under a smaller DIY type thing in more recent years, BBS, Clutch woodshops in USA and various others including wood from China for AU and Asia.

Someone else closer to the source might be able to help with that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on May 21, 2022, 04:41:05 AM

Quote from: Roisto on May 19, 2022, 12:24:14 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on May 18, 2022, 11:29:28 PM

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Quote from: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

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Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

[close]

You can see the dimensions of decks from the last drop in the official page https://soursolution.club/collections/sp22
somewhere i read S1 is medium and S4 is mellow concave, but you can also see the photos of the decks.

[close]

Here’s the HLC catalog with details on all the shapes they have.

https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hlc-oem-skateboard-catalog.pdf

Which is which in Sour is another question then but maybe it can be worked out from there somehow.

It’s still very baffling to me how they all have 14.2” wb except one old school shape with a 14.6” wb and then the mini decks.

Thanks everyone, this catalogue is quite helpful!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Icey on May 25, 2022, 07:22:01 AM

Anyone skate a control deck lately? I really like one of the graphics in the latest Studio drop but the bad review of control wood earlier in this thread has be wary.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 25, 2022, 07:50:21 AM

Last deck was a Scum Co from Control, steep kicks medium across the middle. No complaints about the wood, stay stiff throughout it's lifespan (4 weeks, probably 15 sessions, 3 hours each) before I retired it early. Felt thicker and less springy than a BBS if that's your thing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 08:52:09 AM

Quote from: Icey on May 25, 2022, 07:22:01 AM

Anyone skate a control deck lately? I really like one of the graphics in the latest Studio drop but the bad review of control wood earlier in this thread has be wary.

The couple I have had (second hand) have held up fine and no issues with them, but I don't skate them as my daily rider, so might not have quite as much to say about them as others.

I would be more inclined to skate them before half the other main woodshops, but that is based more on the concave and how the board felt to me, so I would say, "Yes go for it", more so than "No don't do it", if that makes sense.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on May 25, 2022, 06:43:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDXibq5nNs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 06:58:19 PM

Ha yeah that is pretty cool, but more so stoked that they explain how it is updated and a good place to get info - that comes from everyone who has helped with info, not just any one person who created things before me or what I have put up since.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 25, 2022, 07:08:55 PM

And no secret, yes I started the "Woodshop" account so others have the ability to edit and fix the woodshop thread in the event of the one person who created the account is no longer able to do it (which is what was happening to previous woodshop threads), just so my only other and main account is left for myself to say what I want on a broader scale, really only about skateboard product anyway, but I as said I am more stoked to have a resource with relevant information to help people than any name recognition or other achievement accolades.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 07:24:15 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.



Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on May 25, 2022, 08:51:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 07:24:15 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

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That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.



Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

PGI for sure .  I had a Skull Skates pop that was mellow, broad but rounded nose/ tail and no real taper .

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: bryan on May 25, 2022, 09:05:28 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

As the last two people said PGI, this is the last woodshop crailtap used prior to the current one before the kicks got steeper.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 09:52:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 07:24:15 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

[close]

That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 10:59:54 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 09:52:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 07:24:15 PM

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Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

[close]

That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

[close]

Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

Most of the BBS 8.5 tend to be on the longer side, 32.5 (although Baker and others are listed as only 32, they also measure longer) all with 14.5 wheelbase, so that might be a bit long for what you want.

The PGI boards are more what you want with shorter wheelbases too, this one is 8.5 x 32 with 14.25 wb and that seems about normal from the boards I have seen from others too.


The most frustrating thing is there seems to not be a whole lot of PGI board representation around, or if it is, no one has provided info about it to then list it.

Almost seems more like they are being supplied more to singular distibution companies as blanks to be used for whatever boards they sell on to small brands or shops, more so than any global brands, but I am sure there would still be some around like that.

I don't even have any other info on the woodshop itself, unless it is under another name or something - tried looking for info about it and came up with nothing, but I know from seeing the boards and standing on them, they are very mellow, very long rounded kicks, etc.

Sorry that is probably just repeating myself, but someone else might have some more info on PGI which I can add to the first page, or even any other local board brands on that wood.


@Buttfart Rapedick might be able to help a bit more with info on PGI...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on May 26, 2022, 02:24:45 AM

Maybe a bit eurocentric but is there any information where Titus skateboards are produced?
https://www.titus-shop.com/en/skate/?p=1&o=18&n=18&s=2

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on May 26, 2022, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

Control is another option no?  Mellow, straight kicks but not really steep……

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 26, 2022, 05:47:35 PM

Quote from: WavyDavy on May 26, 2022, 02:24:45 AM

Maybe a bit eurocentric but is there any information where Titus skateboards are produced?
https://www.titus-shop.com/en/skate/?p=1&o=18&n=18&s=2

Nothing I could see that says where they come from, which usually (but not always) would mean an unknown woodshop from China or given their location, possibly even somewhere in EU.  If you contact them and ask, they might give you more info, but if they cannot or will not tell you, that is usually a red flag for me.


The info from one of the shop board pages has a lot with details of the sizes and dimensions, good pics to show concave, etc.  Natural wood usually means pricepoint for some woodshops, but often it is the normal go to for others.


https://www.titus-shop.com/en/titus-deck-schranz-black-0105598/



Available sizes:

- 7.5'' x 31.25''
- 7.625'' x 31.375''
- 7.75'' x 31.5''
- 7.875'' x 31.625''
- 8'' x 31.75''
- 8.125'' x 32''
- 8.25'' x 31.875''
- 8.5'' x 31.75''


Features
width: 7.5" / legth: 31.250" / wheelbase: 14.02" / nose: 6.83" / tail: 6.24"
width: 7.75" / length: 31.5" / Wheelbase: 14.02" / Nose: 6.65" / Tail: 6.65"
width: 7.875" / length: 31.625" / Wheelbase: 14.25" / Nose: 6.71" / Tail: 6.48"
width: 7.625" / length: 31.25" / Wheelbase: 14.02" / Nose: 6.73" / Tail: 6.33"
width: 8" / length: 31.875" / Wheelbase: 14.25" / Nose: 6.85" / Tail: 6.61"
width: 8.25" / length: 31.875" / Wheelbase: 14.25" / Nose: 6.89" / Tail: 6.58"
width: 8.375" / length: 31.75" / Wheelbase: 14.25" / Nose: 6.93" / Tail: 6.38"
width: 8.5" / length: 31.75" / Wheelbase: 14.49" / Nose: 6.93" / Tail: 6.38"
width: 8.75" / length: 32.5" / Wheelbase: 14.75" / Nose: 7.025" / Tail: 6.525"
width: 9" / length: 32.875" / Wheelbase: 14.75" / Nose: 7.025" / Tail: 6.9"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 26, 2022, 06:10:31 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 26, 2022, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

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Control is another option no?  Mellow, straight kicks but not really steep……

I'd add GX1000 / Quasi (PS Stix) to the mix - medium kicks and concave with fat nose. April if you want something really flat and can deal with longer deck length and short WB. I remember old Crailtap decks from the 2000s having a tapered tips, very similar to the SC Tom Asta model.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MarshGarvey on May 27, 2022, 12:48:06 AM

Quote from: WavyDavy on May 26, 2022, 02:24:45 AM

Maybe a bit eurocentric but is there any information where Titus skateboards are produced?
https://www.titus-shop.com/en/skate/?p=1&o=18&n=18&s=2

I bought one for a buddy a few years back when I was living in Germany. I'm pretty sure he still has it ungripped and it's definitely still in his apartment unskated. I'll see if I can get some pics of the top soon and post them. Quite possible the production has changed but it's a start.

I can also reach out to some friends out in Europe and see if they know. If you're out there I'd suggest just going into Titus and asking though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WavyDavy on May 27, 2022, 05:01:15 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 26, 2022, 05:47:35 PM

Quote from: WavyDavy on May 26, 2022, 02:24:45 AM

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Maybe a bit eurocentric but is there any information where Titus skateboards are produced?
https://www.titus-shop.com/en/skate/?p=1&o=18&n=18&s=2

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Nothing I could see that says where they come from, which usually (but not always) would mean an unknown woodshop from China or given their location, possibly even somewhere in EU.  If you contact them and ask, they might give you more info, but if they cannot or will not tell you, that is usually a red flag for me.

Yeah, i know Titus ist one of the biggest and oldest skateshops in Germany, maybe even Europe, but it was always a mystery where their boards were made. So i always assumed they are produced in China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 27, 2022, 12:17:30 PM

Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 09:52:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 25, 2022, 07:24:15 PM

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Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

[close]

That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

[close]

Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

If you want mellow concave and mild kick angles then stay away from BBS. Every mold I've ever seen from them has a significant spoon shape to it.

If you want the straight rails and mild kicks ala the good Ole 90s boards all us old dudes grew up on then PGI is one option but Personally the best answer I can give to your description is the south central "e" mold aka DOA flat as fuck. Hit up DOA on Instagram and see if they have any flats sitting around or if they have a date for the next drop (should be soon)... It's excellent wood and you get to support one of the coolest small brands out there as well.

PS has a few flat molds as well, the one that best matches what you're looking for is the Toy Machine mellow mold but they cut it into different shapes so sometimes it's not super tapered. If you can find the 8.25 x 31.5 mellow shape it's usually pretty flat. Usually classic monster and hell monster 8.25 get run on it but they sometimes run those graphics through other woodshops too so you have to be careful. I've had foundation boards are on it too but they tend to be on one of the medium shapes.

PGI is a nice flat mold but they tend to be pretty full kicks without a lot of taper. They also have a 14" wb which is a bonus for some and deal breaker for others. The wood is stiff and snappy but does sog out and it's epoxy glued so it's heavy. I really like the blood wizard 8.25 x 31.6 shape.

DSM has some flatties too... The palace 8.25 shapes are pretty popular with the "sore old guy" crowd these days.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vernon Wells on May 27, 2022, 12:23:19 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 26, 2022, 06:10:31 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 26, 2022, 12:23:02 PM

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Quote from: Vernon Wells on May 25, 2022, 03:32:11 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

[close]

Control is another option no?  Mellow, straight kicks but not really steep……

[close]

I'd add GX1000 / Quasi (PS Stix) to the mix - medium kicks and concave with fat nose. April if you want something really flat and can deal with longer deck length and short WB. I remember old Crailtap decks from the 2000s having a tapered tips, very similar to the SC Tom Asta model.

I'll take a look at Control and April decks. Have skated a few 8.25 PS stix decks, some tails just seemed tiny. More into a full big nose/tail, granted their larger boards probably have bigger proportions. Appreciate the suggestions.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vernon Wells on May 27, 2022, 12:29:47 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

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That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

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Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

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If you want mellow concave and mild kick angles then stay away from BBS. Every mold I've ever seen from them has a significant spoon shape to it.

If you want the straight rails and mild kicks ala the good Ole 90s boards all us old dudes grew up on then PGI is one option but Personally the best answer I can give to your description is the south central "e" mold aka DOA flat as fuck. Hit up DOA on Instagram and see if they have any flats sitting around or if they have a date for the next drop (should be soon)... It's excellent wood and you get to support one of the coolest small brands out there as well.

PS has a few flat molds as well, the one that best matches what you're looking for is the Toy Machine mellow mold but they cut it into different shapes so sometimes it's not super tapered. If you can find the 8.25 x 31.5 mellow shape it's usually pretty flat. Usually classic monster and hell monster 8.25 get run on it but they sometimes run those graphics through other woodshops too so you have to be careful. I've had foundation boards are on it too but they tend to be on one of the medium shapes.

PGI is a nice flat mold but they tend to be pretty full kicks without a lot of taper. They also have a 14" wb which is a bonus for some and deal breaker for others. The wood is stiff and snappy but does sog out and it's epoxy glued so it's heavy. I really like the blood wizard 8.25 x 31.6 shape.

DSM has some flatties too... The palace 8.25 shapes are pretty popular with the "sore old guy" crowd these days.

PGI seems to be the general consensus, I'll give it a go. I have skated a DOA faf deck, liked it and may revisit. They usually sell out quickly and I've been fluctuating/sampling different wheelbases/brands. I'll check out those Tum yeto and Palace shapes too. Appreciate all the info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on May 27, 2022, 11:28:26 PM

Kinda out there but I just skated ace lo’s….so low and tight wheelbase…..it mellowed out the kicks….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 28, 2022, 12:38:12 AM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

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That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

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Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

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If you want mellow concave and mild kick angles then stay away from BBS. Every mold I've ever seen from them has a significant spoon shape to it.

If you want the straight rails and mild kicks ala the good Ole 90s boards all us old dudes grew up on then PGI is one option but Personally the best answer I can give to your description is the south central "e" mold aka DOA flat as fuck. Hit up DOA on Instagram and see if they have any flats sitting around or if they have a date for the next drop (should be soon)... It's excellent wood and you get to support one of the coolest small brands out there as well.

PS has a few flat molds as well, the one that best matches what you're looking for is the Toy Machine mellow mold but they cut it into different shapes so sometimes it's not super tapered. If you can find the 8.25 x 31.5 mellow shape it's usually pretty flat. Usually classic monster and hell monster 8.25 get run on it but they sometimes run those graphics through other woodshops too so you have to be careful. I've had foundation boards are on it too but they tend to be on one of the medium shapes.

PGI is a nice flat mold but they tend to be pretty full kicks without a lot of taper. They also have a 14" wb which is a bonus for some and deal breaker for others. The wood is stiff and snappy but does sog out and it's epoxy glued so it's heavy. I really like the blood wizard 8.25 x 31.6 shape.

DSM has some flatties too... The palace 8.25 shapes are pretty popular with the "sore old guy" crowd these days.

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PGI seems to be the general consensus, I'll give it a go. I have skated a DOA faf deck, liked it and may revisit. They usually sell out quickly and I've been fluctuating/sampling different wheelbases/brands. I'll check out those Tum yeto and Palace shapes too. Appreciate all the info.

https://imgur.com/a/47E9Qtq

This is the blood wizard/PGI 8.25 x 31.6 shape (Krahn Ouija graphic). It's flat concave wise but the kicks are more of a mild medium. Other pic is a DOA 8.25 flat to give you a frame of reference since you said you'd skated one. Let me know if you want any more pics or I can do this with some of the PS stix mellows if you want. I don't have a palace atm but I have a couple evisen which are the same mold.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on May 28, 2022, 11:05:09 AM

Does anyone have experience with the Baker/Deathwish 8.475 (14.25 wheelbase) shape? Is it the same as the dlx 8.5?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 28, 2022, 11:47:14 AM

Very similar, but slightly more tapered. Haven't ridden but stood on in a shop and it also seems as if both kicks are a hair longer. It looks like if they took the 8.25 and widened from the bolts back

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 29, 2022, 06:17:12 AM

Just grabbed a Hopps deck with a graphic that I think they started making in January of this year. I hope it's BBS and not Clutch.

Their website says Made In Mexico. Does that guarantee that it's BBS or does Clutch manufacture in Mexico too?

https://hoppsskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/hopps-x-daptone-records-collage-deck

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on May 29, 2022, 08:31:39 AM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on May 29, 2022, 06:17:12 AM

Just grabbed a Hopps deck with a graphic that I think they started making in January of this year. I hope it's BBS and not Clutch.

Their website says Made In Mexico. Does that guarantee that it's BBS or does Clutch manufacture in Mexico too?

https://hoppsskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/hopps-x-daptone-records-collage-deck

I believe Clutch is pressed in Tijuana, Mexico also. Fingers crossed for you! I was eyeing those Hopps decks too and had the same question. Please report back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on May 29, 2022, 09:51:01 AM

Yah, with the top photo, no sticker which doesn’t mean for sure, but I’d be more inclined to say clutch as well….

You can always just ask Hopps or the shop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 29, 2022, 10:44:41 AM

The sticker is on the plastic wrap though right? It looks like these photos are taken out of the wrap.

For what it's worth this thread says they're back to BBS.

I'll report back for sure. Either way it would be a cool wall hanger.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on May 29, 2022, 03:34:21 PM

Nope…stickers are on the boards…

That said, lots of times ie. shop boards are BBS/Generator no sticker……

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 29, 2022, 03:48:16 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on May 29, 2022, 03:34:21 PM

Nope…stickers are on the boards…

That said, lots of times ie. shop boards are BBS/Generator no sticker……

Fuck... At the same time though, I would imagine for a product photoshoot you would probably want to take the sticker off the board before shooting. There's still hope I guess...

Thanks for the heads up all.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 29, 2022, 06:13:25 PM

Re Hopps boards, from what I can remember / looked up:


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/collections/decks


Hopps are part of the Theories group, which include a few brands with different woodshops, but as far as the main ones, Theories, Picture Show and Hopps, (as well as Isle and Magenta) they were BBS, then with pandemic issues they were using Clutch, but then someone posted that they had asked and Theories replied that they were back on BBS around the end of 2021 or so.  Both are made in Mexico.

I couldn't say for sure just from just looking at the pics as they were not clear enough on top views, but there was nothing to indicate the usual Clutch stamp - a letter and number stamped into the top, whereas BBS just have the dot and I could even tell from some of the stains as to which woodshop they were using, but that is getting harder to tell now as well.  Those current boards shown look like BBS to me anyway.

The other thing is Theories Distribution was getting the blanks and doing their own graphics in house, which means there would not be the usual warning sticker and often not even the usual "shop board" Generator sticker either, which was rather unique, but again I don't know all the details and whatever deal that was, it is a solid one.


As per others, I am also curious to see a top view, any stickers or anything else when it does arrive.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 29, 2022, 06:58:27 PM

Another way is to determine which season / time of year the graphic was used. Anything before Q1 2021 I think it's safe to assume Clutch, anything after BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 29, 2022, 07:05:49 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 29, 2022, 06:13:25 PM

Re Hopps boards, from what I can remember / looked up:


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/collections/decks


Hopps are part of the Theories group, which include a few brands with different woodshops, but as far as the main ones, Theories, Picture Show and Hopps, (as well as Isle and Magenta) they were BBS, then with pandemic issues they were using Clutch, but then someone posted that they had asked and Theories replied that they were back on BBS around the end of 2021 or so.  Both are made in Mexico.

I couldn't say for sure just from just looking at the pics as they were not clear enough on top views, but there was nothing to indicate the usual Clutch stamp - a letter and number stamped into the top, whereas BBS just have the dot and I could even tell from some of the stains as to which woodshop they were using, but that is getting harder to tell now as well.  Those current boards shown look like BBS to me anyway.

The other thing is Theories Distribution was getting the blanks and doing their own graphics in house, which means there would not be the usual warning sticker and often not even the usual "shop board" Generator sticker either, which was rather unique, but again I don't know all the details and whatever deal that was, it is a solid one.


As per others, I am also curious to see a top view, any stickers or anything else when it does arrive.

God Brim, you're the best. Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge and putting so much work into keeping this stuff straight. You're the MVP of SLAP, hands down.

Thanks for the info. I'm hyped on this board, and hyped on the boat load of magazines I'll be getting along side it.

Quote from: rocklobster on May 29, 2022, 06:58:27 PM

Another way is to determine which season / time of year the graphic was used. Anything before Q1 2021 I think it's safe to assume Clutch, anything after BBS.

It looks like it was debuted January 2022, so I think it should be good. It's been long enough that maybe this is a later batch too possibly.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 29, 2022, 07:29:03 PM

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Re Hopps boards, from what I can remember / looked up:


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/collections/decks


Hopps are part of the Theories group, which include a few brands with different woodshops, but as far as the main ones, Theories, Picture Show and Hopps, (as well as Isle and Magenta) they were BBS, then with pandemic issues they were using Clutch, but then someone posted that they had asked and Theories replied that they were back on BBS around the end of 2021 or so.  Both are made in Mexico.

I couldn't say for sure just from just looking at the pics as they were not clear enough on top views, but there was nothing to indicate the usual Clutch stamp - a letter and number stamped into the top, whereas BBS just have the dot and I could even tell from some of the stains as to which woodshop they were using, but that is getting harder to tell now as well.  Those current boards shown look like BBS to me anyway.

The other thing is Theories Distribution was getting the blanks and doing their own graphics in house, which means there would not be the usual warning sticker and often not even the usual "shop board" Generator sticker either, which was rather unique, but again I don't know all the details and whatever deal that was, it is a solid one.


As per others, I am also curious to see a top view, any stickers or anything else when it does arrive.

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God Brim, you're the best. Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge and putting so much work into keeping this stuff straight. You're the MVP of SLAP, hands down.

Thanks for the info. I'm hyped on this board, and hyped on the boat load of magazines I'll be getting along side it.

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It looks like it was debuted January 2022, so I think it should be good. It's been long enough that maybe this is a later batch too possibly.

Yeah you should be in the clear, the ones on a lot of website clearance sections should be the Clutch ones.

https://garageskateshop.com/collections/decks/hopps?sort_by=price-ascending

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 30, 2022, 02:51:52 AM

Quote from: MxsDx on May 28, 2022, 11:05:09 AM

Does anyone have experience with the Baker/Deathwish 8.475 (14.25 wheelbase) shape? Is it the same as the dlx 8.5?

Quote from: LebowskisRug on May 28, 2022, 11:47:14 AM

Very similar, but slightly more tapered. Haven't ridden but stood on in a shop and it also seems as if both kicks are a hair longer. It looks like if they took the 8.25 and widened from the bolts back

Yes I have both here and meant to get them out to check but forgot about this until it was too late - hopefully I can check tomorrow.

From memory, the Baker 8.475 x 31.875 boards are definitely a bit wider right through and a bit more pointy than the way the DLX 8.5 x 31.85 is, especially in the nose.

Wheelbase 14.25 is the same but that is about it, even though the kicks are pretty much the same lengths overall.


https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on May 30, 2022, 07:55:06 AM

When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 30, 2022, 09:33:58 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 30, 2022, 07:55:06 AM

When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on May 30, 2022, 06:58:28 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2022, 09:33:58 AM

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When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

They are also pressing “at a partner” in Mexico (&& maple, reissues:

 https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-7-ply-maple-skateboard-deck-9-13-x-32-8

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-vallely-elephant-skateboard-deck-lime-9-85-x-30

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 31, 2022, 12:57:48 AM

Quote from: backinaction on May 30, 2022, 06:58:28 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2022, 09:33:58 AM

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Quote from: rawbertson. on May 30, 2022, 07:55:06 AM

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When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

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They are also pressing “at a partner” in Mexico (&& maple, reissues:

 https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-7-ply-maple-skateboard-deck-9-13-x-32-8

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-vallely-elephant-skateboard-deck-lime-9-85-x-30

I thought this was discussed only in the last year or so, but if I recall correctly it was during the pandemic that they changed everything, when they moved location as well, but I haven't gone back to check any info in this or older threads as I type this.

It was something like this:

Flight boards still made in USA
Plain / normal popsicle boards made in China
Reissues made in Mexico

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 31, 2022, 01:02:10 AM

Quote from: MxsDx on May 28, 2022, 11:05:09 AM

Does anyone have experience with the Baker/Deathwish 8.475 (14.25 wheelbase) shape? Is it the same as the dlx 8.5?

Quote from: LebowskisRug on May 28, 2022, 11:47:14 AM

Very similar, but slightly more tapered. Haven't ridden but stood on in a shop and it also seems as if both kicks are a hair longer. It looks like if they took the 8.25 and widened from the bolts back

Update:

Yes I have both here and checked today.

From measuring, the Baker 8.475 x 31.875 boards are definitely a bit wider at 8.475 right through from very front bolts to very back bolts and ever so slightly more pointy than the way the DLX 8.5 x 31.85 is, especially in the nose but there is really almost nothing in it.

DLX 8.5 is only 8.5 right at the shoulder and is more like 8.4 through to a touch over 8.25 at the very back bolts, as well as being a bit shorter overall when I had them back to back.

Wheelbase 14.25 is the same but that is about it, even though the kicks are pretty much the same lengths overall.


Both of these are old boards, not current stock, so things could be slightly different nowdays, but at least they are fairly close all up.


https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Punished Skateboards on May 31, 2022, 05:33:16 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/mc537VR/B8-C7-A2-F7-E04-F-4-EC0-AA6-F-DBBB1-A1-C907-F.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on May 31, 2022, 07:10:57 PM

Quote from: Punished Skateboards on May 31, 2022, 05:33:16 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/mc537VR/B8-C7-A2-F7-E04-F-4-EC0-AA6-F-DBBB1-A1-C907-F.png)

I don't quite understand what this means. Like people going to better woodshops or to worse woodshops?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on May 31, 2022, 08:34:27 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2022, 09:33:58 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 30, 2022, 07:55:06 AM

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When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

I know I’ve claimed rock hard….and it was more like a limp willow branch…..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 01, 2022, 07:12:41 AM

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I don't quite understand what this means. Like people going to better woodshops or to worse woodshops?

Generally speaking, it means board companies are changing from one woodshop to another, not specifically for better or for worse, but I would imagine for the companies in question, it is a more financially viable option to change to someone who has cheaper product per unit, or might have better terms.

I don't know who in particular they are talking about, but I have definitely noticed within the last half year, it seems a lot more companies who were bigger and well established who used top tier woodshops like BBS, PS Stix or others are now getting wood from unknown woodshops in China, as per previous posts in the last few pages of this thread.

I am definitely curious to hear any more info, so I DM'd them and will see.

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Post by: rawbertson. on June 01, 2022, 08:26:32 AM

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When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

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They are also pressing “at a partner” in Mexico (&& maple, reissues:

 https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-7-ply-maple-skateboard-deck-9-13-x-32-8

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-vallely-elephant-skateboard-deck-lime-9-85-x-30

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I thought this was discussed only in the last year or so, but if I recall correctly it was during the pandemic that they changed everything, when they moved location as well, but I haven't gone back to check any info in this or older threads as I type this.

It was something like this:

Flight boards still made in USA
Plain / normal popsicle boards made in China
Reissues made in Mexico

thank you for getting bakc ot me!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Vernon Wells on June 01, 2022, 04:33:49 PM

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Curious if anyone is familiar with a company or mfg that produces boards with the following attributes; mellow concave, big and non-steep nose/tail, and a straight side rail (minimal hips before nose/tail). Pretty much like old crailtap shapes, seems like all their newer decks have quite steeper kicks now.

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That sounds like PGI boards, which are very straight, long kicks but overall very mellow, as per an 8.5 and other boards I have.

The only problem is I don't know many brands that use them currently, or depending on where you are in the world, there may be easier access to them, but here in Australia, one distributor of printed blanks use their wood, so a number of smaller brands come out with their graphics on that wood.

What size board are you usually riding as well, because to look at an 8 can often be different to looking at an 8.5 in terms of shapes, but all the boards of varying sizes I saw of this woodshop were very mellow, very boat like, round kicks, etc.

Failing that, I most commonly ride 8.5 boards from BBS and that shape that is used for many of their brands is long and straight, no taper, right through the sides, long round nose and tail and if the board is too steep, I park the car on it for a bit and it mellows it out perfectly, so that is another option and there are many more of those boards in the world.

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Usually skate between 8.25-8.5 with 14-14.25 WB range. I’ll take a look at PGI, saw a blood wizard deck a long time ago that looked tempting. Had a Pennswood and Prime blank last year that fit the bill but both warped and I gave them away. You recall the rest of the dimensions for the 8.5 BBS? Appreciate the info, and thanks to everyone else who mentioned PGI.

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If you want mellow concave and mild kick angles then stay away from BBS. Every mold I've ever seen from them has a significant spoon shape to it.

If you want the straight rails and mild kicks ala the good Ole 90s boards all us old dudes grew up on then PGI is one option but Personally the best answer I can give to your description is the south central "e" mold aka DOA flat as fuck. Hit up DOA on Instagram and see if they have any flats sitting around or if they have a date for the next drop (should be soon)... It's excellent wood and you get to support one of the coolest small brands out there as well.

PS has a few flat molds as well, the one that best matches what you're looking for is the Toy Machine mellow mold but they cut it into different shapes so sometimes it's not super tapered. If you can find the 8.25 x 31.5 mellow shape it's usually pretty flat. Usually classic monster and hell monster 8.25 get run on it but they sometimes run those graphics through other woodshops too so you have to be careful. I've had foundation boards are on it too but they tend to be on one of the medium shapes.

PGI is a nice flat mold but they tend to be pretty full kicks without a lot of taper. They also have a 14" wb which is a bonus for some and deal breaker for others. The wood is stiff and snappy but does sog out and it's epoxy glued so it's heavy. I really like the blood wizard 8.25 x 31.6 shape.

DSM has some flatties too... The palace 8.25 shapes are pretty popular with the "sore old guy" crowd these days.

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PGI seems to be the general consensus, I'll give it a go. I have skated a DOA faf deck, liked it and may revisit. They usually sell out quickly and I've been fluctuating/sampling different wheelbases/brands. I'll check out those Tum yeto and Palace shapes too. Appreciate all the info.

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https://imgur.com/a/47E9Qtq

This is the blood wizard/PGI 8.25 x 31.6 shape (Krahn Ouija graphic). It's flat concave wise but the kicks are more of a mild medium. Other pic is a DOA 8.25 flat to give you a frame of reference since you said you'd skated one. Let me know if you want any more pics or I can do this with some of the PS stix mellows if you want. I don't have a palace atm but I have a couple evisen which are the same mold.

Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 01, 2022, 05:16:30 PM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

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Post by: FuzzGNU on June 01, 2022, 05:52:55 PM

Something interesting... My Theories of Atlantis order (with a Hopps deck) said it was shipped by "Chapman Skateboard Co Inc".

Does Chapman do purely distribution services for New York based skate companies too? Or are their boards made by Chapman now?

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Post by: FatGuy92 on June 01, 2022, 11:57:15 PM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

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Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

Speaking of PGI, I was looking at some 8.25 Maxallure decks. Anyone know the dimensions? Tactics has WB for that size ranging from 14-14.5 lol. Also, PGI has more mellow kicks right?

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Post by: rocklobster on June 02, 2022, 01:52:26 AM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

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Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

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Speaking of PGI, I was looking at some 8.25 Maxallure decks. Anyone know the dimensions? Tactics has WB for that size ranging from 14-14.5 lol. Also, PGI has more mellow kicks right?

Just measured the 8.25 I had lying around:

8.25 x 31.6 x 14

Mellow kicks and concave, classic popsicle shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on June 02, 2022, 07:13:19 AM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on June 01, 2022, 05:52:55 PM

Something interesting... My Theories of Atlantis order (with a Hopps deck) said it was shipped by "Chapman Skateboard Co Inc".

Does Chapman do purely distribution services for New York based skate companies too? Or are their boards made by Chapman now?

Chapman prints and ships their boards. During the peak of COVID they were using the Clutch blanks that Chapman uses, but IIRC most of their stuff is back to being BBS.

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Post by: Vernon Wells on June 02, 2022, 03:14:12 PM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

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Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

It was a Maxallure, believe it's already on the list. Enigma indeed, dimensions seem to vary a lot on each website. The deck is 8.38 with 14.25 WB.

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Post by: Woodshop on June 02, 2022, 04:42:15 PM

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Element board with engraved dimensions. The website says that the 8.25 boards have 14.25 wb but on here is different?

At least that one is still BBS as quite a lot are now from an unknown woodshop and made in China.


Re the sizes, yes it is the weirdest thing that (a) the dimensions are so random on a lot of the boards, eg wb at 14.307 and then (b) they can almost never seem to get them right from what is on the board to what is listed in Element marketing and promo material, which is then used by the shops, boards unseen.


Some shops look like they have actually checked the boards and have those measurements listed, but most use whatever spreadsheet info they are given and so the listings can be way off for a lot of them.

They are often on sale and very cheap, so work out well for good wood, but from three boards of 8.38 size, all three are different dimensions, lengths and wheelbases, which is pretty funny, but also a little frustrating.

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Post by: Woodshop on June 02, 2022, 04:43:27 PM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

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Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

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It was a Maxallure, believe it's already on the list. Enigma indeed, dimensions seem to vary a lot on each website. The deck is 8.38 with 14.25 WB.

Thank you!

I was thinking that it would be Maxallure as that seems to be the main company still using them, but I had to ask.

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Post by: FatGuy92 on June 02, 2022, 08:45:34 PM

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Cool, thanks for the pics. Ended up scooping an 8.25 PS Stix and 8.38 PGI from the 303 sale.

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Which board brand was on PGI and is it already on the list?

The PGI product is a bit of an enigma to me, so I always want to know more.

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Speaking of PGI, I was looking at some 8.25 Maxallure decks. Anyone know the dimensions? Tactics has WB for that size ranging from 14-14.5 lol. Also, PGI has more mellow kicks right?

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Just measured the 8.25 I had lying around:

8.25 x 31.6 x 14

Mellow kicks and concave, classic popsicle shape.

Thank you good sir that's exactly what I was hoping for

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 10, 2022, 01:39:47 AM

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Something interesting... My Theories of Atlantis order (with a Hopps deck) said it was shipped by "Chapman Skateboard Co Inc".

Does Chapman do purely distribution services for New York based skate companies too? Or are their boards made by Chapman now?

I feel like I'm posting this for the hundredth time... Chapman doesn't press boards and hasn't for a good 5 or so years now. Their woodshop is long gone, even longer than quincy.

They get bulk clutch blanks and apply heat transfers. It's the same business model PGI, point, and a few others use.

Also I'm not sure what the confusion is about PGI. Same exact thing, just boards from a Chinese woodshop (dailan huahong iirc though im probably butchering the spelling). They're located in socal so a lot of smaller brands use them since theyre local and affordable.

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Post by: GBLange on June 10, 2022, 06:31:34 AM

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When did Skate ONE start manufacturing boards in China / Mexico? do we know which boards are made there? Was it when the Mini-Logo brand "rebranded" into that military vibe? Those decks were clearly much shittier than the ones in the early 2000s we used to get:

https://www.facebook.com/107194821200835/photos/a.113311503922500/172478721339111/?type=3

2000 S.O.C. I am assuming that means Skate One Corp? but doenst say where its manufactured. I would think going back that far they must have still been made in USA if it was only more recently they switched.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-yosozumi-samurai-skateboard-deck-red-shape-244-k20-8-5-x-32-08

I think it's safe to assume all decks that aren't Flight or old school reissues are made in China, including blanks and pro model decks. I'm always suspicious when companies use the word Rock Hard Maple, I know some companies use that as code for birch.

If I had to guess they made the switch in the early 2010s? Just about when the time of the recession.

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I know I’ve claimed rock hard….and it was more like a limp willow branch…..

i kinda like their Powell SST decks..rode a few in 1996..

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Post by: Ok on June 10, 2022, 06:16:18 PM

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Something interesting... My Theories of Atlantis order (with a Hopps deck) said it was shipped by "Chapman Skateboard Co Inc".

Does Chapman do purely distribution services for New York based skate companies too? Or are their boards made by Chapman now?

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I feel like I'm posting this for the hundredth time... Chapman doesn't press boards and hasn't for a good 5 or so years now. Their woodshop is long gone, even longer than quincy.

They get bulk clutch blanks and apply heat transfers. It's the same business model PGI, point, and a few others use.

Also I'm not sure what the confusion is about PGI. Same exact thing, just boards from a Chinese woodshop (dailan huahong iirc though im probably butchering the spelling). They're located in socal so a lot of smaller brands use them since theyre local and affordable.

Hey thanks for the info! Always. Very much appreciate your insight.
I’ve been confused about pgi: I thought crail boards were pgi and then switch to dailan h. I have had a few pgi boards that were as good as a deck can be, and then a few that were sog. The ‘new’ crail wood is very consistent, and extremely durable, I really like the dimensions of their shapes…but they are stiff, and I just don’t like them quite as much as before. I like ps stix wood, less stiff. Aaaaaaaanyways, sounds like pgi is just a middle business and not the manufacturer, good to know.

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Post by: Woodshop on June 11, 2022, 03:22:07 AM

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Something interesting... My Theories of Atlantis order (with a Hopps deck) said it was shipped by "Chapman Skateboard Co Inc".

Does Chapman do purely distribution services for New York based skate companies too? Or are their boards made by Chapman now?

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I feel like I'm posting this for the hundredth time... Chapman doesn't press boards and hasn't for a good 5 or so years now. Their woodshop is long gone, even longer than quincy.

They get bulk clutch blanks and apply heat transfers. It's the same business model PGI, point, and a few others use.

Also I'm not sure what the confusion is about PGI. Same exact thing, just boards from a Chinese woodshop (dailan huahong iirc though im probably butchering the spelling). They're located in socal so a lot of smaller brands use them since theyre local and affordable.

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Hey thanks for the info! Always. Very much appreciate your insight.
I’ve been confused about pgi: I thought crail boards were pgi and then switch to dailan h. I have had a few pgi boards that were as good as a deck can be, and then a few that were sog. The ‘new’ crail wood is very consistent, and extremely durable, I really like the dimensions of their shapes…but they are stiff, and I just don’t like them quite as much as before. I like ps stix wood, less stiff. Aaaaaaaanyways, sounds like pgi is just a middle business and not the manufacturer, good to know.

Thank you for the clarification.


I would like to think I am fairly resourceful in looking up things and from every search and query I still cannot find anything on PGI as a company, a brand, a distributor or anything, which is why I have asked more than once in the past.

Is Point Distribution actually PGI or completely different businesses in the same industry?  Different, I see.  Point in NV, PGI in CA.


This tiny little snippet of information is about all I have come up with:


https://panjiva.com/Pgi-Enterprises-Inc/2106363

Supply Chain Intelligence about:

Pgi Enterprises Inc.
 Company profile   United States

2022-05-10   PGI ENTERPRISES INC.   
DEZHOU LUOYI SPORTING GOODS CO., LT
SKATEBOARD DECK

2021-08-12   PGI ENTERPRISES INC.   
DONGGUAN XINDA SPORTING GOODS CO.
SKATEBOARD DECK HS CODE: 9506. 99. 6080

2021-06-10   PGI ENTERPRISES INC.   
ANQING YONGDA SPORTS & LEISURE LTD.
SKATEBOARD DECK



Date
2022-05-10
Shipper Name
Dezhou Luoyi Sporting Goods Co., Lt
Shipper Address
RENHE RD PINGYUAN COUNTY SHANDO NG PROVINCE PINGYUAN CN
Consignee Name
Pgi Enterprises,Inc.
Consignee Address
SAN LEANDRO CA 94577 USA



There is at least one woodshop in China I know and have on the list, the middle one there, Xinda Sporting Goods, so I know I am on the right track.

Any which way, it is more just another piece of a bigger puzzle that I feel like I have more pieces in the right places than loose and unknown, but I am not in any hurry to finish it, if that would even be possible, given the secrecy of so many industry links and suppliers private information.



On another note it is funny in looking for information that I find the woodshop thread list copied (with no references to where it came from) in a page from this shop.  Not a worry either way and happy anyone can find it useful, but just funny where some things turn up.

https://www.existskatestore.co.uk/blogs/news/2019-wood-shop-manufacturers

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Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 13, 2022, 11:01:36 PM

Copied from another thread, but I thought it might be interesting to put it all here too, seeing as it is relevant.

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Anyone ridden both the Baker 8.38 and DLX that is same specs and have any clue as to how different they are? I thought they were the same and recently got an Anti Hero 8.38 and it feels atrocious. It's a II on the press and think I've mostly ridden III but that seems quite trivial.

After realising they were the same exact shape, I have since had lots of both DLX versions and all the rest, be it Baker or Birdhouse and at least four other BBS companies that used that same 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb shape, even though some were listed as longer and some shorter from their respective company spec sheets / info.

To look at them individually, some looked way more pointy and others looked way more round, mainly due to the graphic I think, but also partly due to the concave, but to sit them on top of each other then swap them over, they really were the same in every way from comparing top / bottom views.

BBS with their four per stack really means you do get a mix of them - half a dozen Baker 8.38 here all in a stack and some are way steeper than others, same as the other boards, even DLX sorted from I through to IV some are more mellow and some are steeper between the same numbers.

I am not proud to say but when I had the chance to get a really good deal on Element decks a few years ago now, I have had 14 of exactly the same board at one point and I arranged them from most mellow (which I preferred) to steepest so they fit well with the mellow on the bottom, but to put one of the steepest on the bottom it was such a big difference.

At one point I used to park the car on some steeper boards to flatten them out, as I just couldn't deal with the steep concave, but more recently (as I have too many) I have been just picking out the more mellow ones and riding them as is more than any others, but I find the mellow ones are easier for street stuff and the steeper ones better for mini ramp stuff.

If you got a steeper board, I can definitely understand how it might feel very awkward for you if you had a more mellow board or two before that one.


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To add it was interesting to see the Birdhouse deck from the Sale thread link from 2018 has a sticker on top that says "DREAMER 8.38" or something similar.

Same as DLX uses "Dreamer shape" for their boards, maybe from Kyle Walker, but then for all the 8.38 normal decks, whereas I once thought the Dreamer was the really mellow (almost flat) concave that he specifically rides.


https://westernskateco.com/products/birdhouse-ben-raybourn-dreamer-green-8-38-skateboard-deck

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Ok so I'm not fucking insane- this anti hero has a 6.875 tail vs 6.625 and 7.25 nose vs 7.0625 on the Baker. I measured with the concave for both as this takes into account the steepness, but even measuring straight across they're different. The Baker ends up at 32 on the dot vs the Anti Hero at 32.25 (straight across).

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I prefer, by quite a bit, boards 32 or less. Out of length, width, wb…length (once thought to be the least relevant) is the least fungible.
Dlx shapes have been too long, full, and steep for me…unless in skating an 8ish bird and then whatever works.
I’ve loved baker boards in the past, like few others. I swear the wood/molds are slightly different, but knowledgeable persons that I believe have the correct info assure me I am incorrect. I had some conspiracy theories about generator, bbs, generator-bbs…but yeah. Gibberish On my part. I’ve tried to not go down the tail length rabbit hole, but it’s difficult for me to ignore that tail lengths greater than 6.6 are pretty much out for me. 6.5 is better. Nose doesn’t need to be over 7, prefer less. This may be why I’ve started to like longer wb’s, but total lengths up to 32: shorter lengths for nose and tail. All I know is I don’t know shit.
But I’d rather ride a baker than a dlx

I think at the end of the day, there is always going to be some difference between boards, even between two 8.38 eagles, I noticed slight differences in length, width, concave and kicks, but that is what happens with boards that might be made in the same place, but on different presses or even different places in a press, but the same shape is cut with computer automation, then human hand sanded maybe some more or some less, etc.  It has been said before the DLX boards have dedicated presses, but who knows.  They definitely have different wood stain layups compared to other brands, so when they do them in bulk there will be separate processes right there.

Bolting four different brands together through the deck bolt holes in a stack, they were all the same size, shape, etc but that is not to say that this lot is the same as another lot of boards produced another time from the same location.  Trying to take pics didn't really show enough or were clear with things, back when I did it with 8.5 boards and then with 8.38 boards.  I used a Baker, DLX, Element and Birdhouse, then swapped them around with a couple of DLX at either end, just to mix and match.

Any which way I know with having so many of the same boards set up at the same time, each one feels a bit different, some more stiff, others more flexible, along with all the other variables as mentioned so I am used to that side of things.

I guess that is where companies like Dwindle whose product is so much more uniform are leading the quality control game, but I know I can't deal with the concave and feel of those boards, whereas others will only ride them, given every board feels exactly the same.


Edit:

I went and found seven of the 8.38 decks including Baker, Birdhouse, Element, Organica (Kayo / DGK era), Antihero, Real and Krooked so here is the pic from them all standing together, give or take less than a few mm all up, but really all the same.

NOTE: Although these are all within 1 to 2 mm, even just a .25" is not that much, only about 6 mm so they are still all around their listed lengths anyway, the average being about 32.2 all up, some at 32 even, some at 32.12 and others at 32.25 total length.


Again not doubting other boards are different, especially given only the DLX boards in this lot are from this year, all the rest from a while ago.


(https://i.ibb.co/n6wY3Rf/Board-Comparison-8-38.jpg) (https://ibb.co/170PsbK)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on June 17, 2022, 06:54:16 AM

Hey guys, I just got 2x Egg Shape Franky Villani boards from Primitive and both confirmed have the "Made in Mexico" sticker :)
the boards look IDENTICAL as far as i can tell dimensions wise. the only difference is one of them has a purple ply in the middle, and one has a yellow ply. So I think that means they were likely done in a differnet lot but at the end of the day they came out looking AMAZING!

I have been told that BBS will be used for the pro model + team series boards from Primitive, but the collabo boards could come from anywhere. So if you are planning to skate those ones, they may or may not be BBS, they could literally be anything. The other company involved in the collab has to approve where it is made and there is a whole other side to it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on June 17, 2022, 04:10:51 PM

For all the Bay Area skaters on here, I was at Atlas today and was told they now use BBS for their shop decks. They have some really sick graphics so I might try it out next time. Could only afford a GX deck on sale today. I'm assuming they probably use the standard shapes but next time I'll bring a tape measure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 17, 2022, 06:47:25 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on June 17, 2022, 06:54:16 AM

Hey guys, I just got 2x Egg Shape Franky Villani boards from Primitive and both confirmed have the "Made in Mexico" sticker :)
the boards look IDENTICAL as far as i can tell dimensions wise. the only difference is one of them has a purple ply in the middle, and one has a yellow ply. So I think that means they were likely done in a differnet lot but at the end of the day they came out looking AMAZING!

I have been told that BBS will be used for the pro model + team series boards from Primitive, but the collabo boards could come from anywhere. So if you are planning to skate those ones, they may or may not be BBS, they could literally be anything. The other company involved in the collab has to approve where it is made and there is a whole other side to it.

Seeing that BBS hologram sticker between the back bolts is an instant win for me, given I prefer BBS wood.

Thanks for the info too!

Quote from: rawbertson. on June 17, 2022, 07:02:07 AM

just got my first egg! I am waiting to burn out my existing deck before setting it up but CANNOT WAIT to try a 3 flip on it. it seems like the geometry of it would be perfect. i got the franky villani 9.125" "Sketchy"

(https://i.imgur.com/zZDVFnC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HM9umRI.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 19, 2022, 05:39:50 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on June 17, 2022, 04:10:51 PM

For all the Bay Area skaters on here, I was at Atlas today and was told they now use BBS for their shop decks. They have some really sick graphics so I might try it out next time. Could only afford a GX deck on sale today. I'm assuming they probably use the standard shapes but next time I'll bring a tape measure.

Thank you!


Added the info to the first page, Shop boards info list.


Also updated some of the listings info and realise the main lists had not been touched for over a month now, so I guess some brands have done their moving around and all that and are ok where they are.

Any other info please let me know.



@rawbertson.  I made it into a few shops on the weekend and saw the Primitive range in one shop, all those BBS hologram stickers on everything, even the colab boards here in Australia, but as you said, it is determined by others as to which wood is used.


Also noticed HUF is back on BBS, from being on other wood from the last year.


I think everything else was as expected or no change to all the boards I stood on or looked at.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 04:31:56 AM

I stumbled upon this website and found all that super interesting. Don't know if that here is the right place to post, but I thought I could share with ya all. I know of at least one skateshop who gets their shop decks made by them and they seem to be good quality. It looks like you can order individual sheets of canadian maple plys to press your own decks, which I never seen before.

https://skatewood.eu/ (https://skatewood.eu/)

But yeah, for me personally BBS makes the nicest decks and I am afraid of changes. But that is not to say that other woodshops are bad or something.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 21, 2022, 06:37:12 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 04:31:56 AM

I stumbled upon this website and found all that super interesting. Don't know if that here is the right place to post, but I thought I could share with ya all. I know of at least one skateshop who gets their shop decks made by them and they seem to be good quality. It looks like you can order individual sheets of canadian maple plys to press your own decks, which I never seen before.

https://skatewood.eu/ (https://skatewood.eu/)

But yeah, for me personally BBS makes the nicest decks and I am afraid of changes. But that is not to say that other woodshops are bad or something.

That's so good!

They bring in the veneer for DIY board makers to buy to do their own boards from scratch, so to speak.

I think that was the biggest problem for some guys I know when they had the presses but couldn't get a good supply of wood veneer to use to make boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 06:49:18 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 21, 2022, 06:37:12 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 04:31:56 AM

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I stumbled upon this website and found all that super interesting. Don't know if that here is the right place to post, but I thought I could share with ya all. I know of at least one skateshop who gets their shop decks made by them and they seem to be good quality. It looks like you can order individual sheets of canadian maple plys to press your own decks, which I never seen before.

https://skatewood.eu/ (https://skatewood.eu/)

But yeah, for me personally BBS makes the nicest decks and I am afraid of changes. But that is not to say that other woodshops are bad or something.

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That's so good!

They bring in the veneer for DIY board makers to buy to do their own boards from scratch, so to speak.

I think that was the biggest problem for some guys I know when they had the presses but couldn't get a good supply of wood veneer to use to make boards.

Some people really have deck presses at home?
I always thought you had to be really rich to own board presses. Some lunatics might can build their own presses with enough knowledge, I don't know. Fingerboarders do that ^^ Anyway that was all super rad to see and they have some nice colored veneers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 21, 2022, 04:22:08 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 06:49:18 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 21, 2022, 06:37:12 AM

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Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 04:31:56 AM

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I stumbled upon this website and found all that super interesting. Don't know if that here is the right place to post, but I thought I could share with ya all. I know of at least one skateshop who gets their shop decks made by them and they seem to be good quality. It looks like you can order individual sheets of canadian maple plys to press your own decks, which I never seen before.

https://skatewood.eu/ (https://skatewood.eu/)

But yeah, for me personally BBS makes the nicest decks and I am afraid of changes. But that is not to say that other woodshops are bad or something.

[close]

That's so good!

They bring in the veneer for DIY board makers to buy to do their own boards from scratch, so to speak.

I think that was the biggest problem for some guys I know when they had the presses but couldn't get a good supply of wood veneer to use to make boards.

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Some people really have deck presses at home?
I always thought you had to be really rich to own board presses. Some lunatics might can build their own presses with enough knowledge, I don't know. Fingerboarders do that ^^ Anyway that was all super rad to see and they have some nice colored veneers.

Re rich to have a press, no not at all, but when you see the major woodshop pics with all their solid equipment, this is the complete opposite to what some people have at home, eg a single press they have made themselves or bought from someone else who had a go and was over it.

Making boards is not that hard in itself, but making a good quality board is a lot harder than it might seem.

This is from a guy I went to school with in the late 80s.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BqbCRiblMIF/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 21, 2022, 04:29:13 PM

Another local Brisbane guy with his own press.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BiJFSmPHSQB/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 11:53:29 PM

These photos are rad. Pretty cool to see. And yeah, to make good quality decks probably isn't easy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 21, 2022, 11:57:22 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 21, 2022, 11:53:29 PM

These photos are rad. Pretty cool to see. And yeah, to make good quality decks (at scale consistently) probably isn't easy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 25, 2022, 04:31:36 AM

I happened to go into a Fast Times store today and saw Spinifex Skateboards, which were on an unknown woodshop (no markings or other info) and a Clutch woodshop board.

From what I could see Spinifex Skateboards are an indigenous brand supporting grass roots skateboarding for indigenous and other kids throughout Australia, doing a great job at getting skateboards to kids who might otherwise have no possible way of being able to skate, with the backing of many top brands and shops here in AU.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdcXUcgu-yP/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on June 26, 2022, 10:25:38 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 25, 2022, 04:31:36 AM

I happened to go into a Fast Times store today and saw Spinifex Skateboards, which were on an unknown woodshop (no markings or other info) and a Clutch woodshop board.

From what I could see Spinifex Skateboards are an indigenous brand supporting grass roots skateboarding for indigenous and other kids throughout Australia, doing a great job at getting skateboards to kids who might otherwise have no possible way of being able to skate, with the backing of many top brands and shops here in AU.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdcXUcgu-yP/

That is really cool and rad. You might can give infos which brands and shops are affiliated, so we can support them?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 28, 2022, 04:28:54 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on June 26, 2022, 10:25:38 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 25, 2022, 04:31:36 AM

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I happened to go into a Fast Times store today and saw Spinifex Skateboards, which were on an unknown woodshop (no markings or other info) and a Clutch woodshop board.

From what I could see Spinifex Skateboards are an indigenous brand supporting grass roots skateboarding for indigenous and other kids throughout Australia, doing a great job at getting skateboards to kids who might otherwise have no possible way of being able to skate, with the backing of many top brands and shops here in AU.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdcXUcgu-yP/

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That is really cool and rad. You might can give infos which brands and shops are affiliated, so we can support them?

Being an Australian brand, I don't think there is any representation outside of AU, but they are in Fasttimes (which has stores all over AU) and a couple of Melbourne shops like Hemley, from their instagram posts.

They are NT based (Northern Territory) but their web site also has info.


https://www.spinifexskateboards.com/


EDIT: 

The header on the web site says "We now offer shipping to AU, NZ, UK, USA and Canada" so I guess they have options for (almost) worldwide coverage.


https://www.spinifexskateboards.com/shop

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Notyourmom on June 29, 2022, 02:18:56 AM

Hey pals!
Great thread with some pretty good info.
Quick update to the woodshop directory.
Habitat for EU doesn’t seem to be through hlc anymore. Not on their website and the last two habitat I got here in Germany had the red made in Mexico sticker on them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on June 29, 2022, 04:51:10 AM

Quote from: Notyourmom on June 29, 2022, 02:18:56 AM

Hey pals!
Great thread with some pretty good info.
Quick update to the woodshop directory.
Habitat for EU doesn’t seem to be through hlc anymore. Not on their website and the last two habitat I got here in Germany had the red made in Mexico sticker on them.

it's been years
Habitat didn't respect the clauses of the contract
I don't know what distribution makes Habitat available in Europe at the moment

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 29, 2022, 06:42:19 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on June 29, 2022, 04:51:10 AM

Quote from: Notyourmom on June 29, 2022, 02:18:56 AM

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Hey pals!
Great thread with some pretty good info.
Quick update to the woodshop directory.
Habitat for EU doesn’t seem to be through hlc anymore. Not on their website and the last two habitat I got here in Germany had the red made in Mexico sticker on them.

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it's been years
Habitat didn't respect the clauses of the contract
I don't know what distribution makes Habitat available in Europe at the moment

Thanks for the info.


Maybe someone is getting them in directly, or possibly through the same distribution line as Alien Workshop, seeing as they are together in some countries, but separate in others.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 29, 2022, 06:45:37 PM

.

I had a message from someone with some more board info, which is always appreciated.


I just added Afternoon Skateboards (from Montreal, Canada) and the board mfg is South Central.

https://www.afternoonskateboards.com/


Also, the Motif Brand Skateboards (from San Diego, Cali.) and board mfg is South Central as well.

https://motifbrand.com/



https://www.instagram.com/p/CTsApAil73k/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CRKq5FAF2w_/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 05:44:15 AM

Does anyone have details about Generator 8.125 shapes? As far as I know, both Polar and Magenta are Generators with same dimension (14.25 WB etc.), but somehow Polar 8.125 feels more pointy, especially the tail. I really liked the Magenta's more rounded 8.1, are there any other brands with same shape?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fur lined sea on July 09, 2022, 06:06:13 AM

Right now I'm loving both the Studio 8 and 8.125s. Both are pressed on the steeper 5 or 6 mold.

I read a lot of shit about Control boards on here, but I personally love them. They remind me a lot of South Central boards, which I also love. It's been hard to find Politic or anything on South Central for the last few years, so I'm stoked to find something similar. Shouldn't have slept on Studio for so long.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on July 09, 2022, 06:38:48 AM

Quote from: larry leadfoot on July 09, 2022, 06:06:13 AM

Right now I'm loving both the Studio 8 and 8.125s. Both are pressed on the steeper 5 or 6 mold.

I read a lot of shit about Control boards on here, but I personally love them. They remind me a lot of South Central boards, which I also love. It's been hard to find Politic or anything on South Central for the last few years, so I'm stoked to find something similar. Shouldn't have slept on Studio for so long.

I had a few control boards (heard PJ likes/liked them), and mine were really good. Flat. The ones I rode were a little stiffer than I like, and sounded different, but all in all, they held their shape/pop. Graphics are also sick. Canadian W.E.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sebbo on July 09, 2022, 07:17:41 AM

Does anybody know where wasted paris boards are pressed?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 07:37:52 AM

Quote from: larry leadfoot on July 09, 2022, 06:03:00 AM

Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 05:44:15 AM

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Does anyone have details about Generator 8.125 shapes? As far as I know, both Polar and Magenta are Generators with same dimension (14.25 WB etc.), but somehow Polar 8.125 feels more pointy, especially the tail. I really liked the Magenta's more rounded 8.1, are there any other brands with same shape?

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It's one of my go to shapes, I've had so many. Any 8.125 in these brands will do you well:

Passport
Killing Floor
Theories
Hopps

Thanks! And for a cure of my gear madness, Polar and Magenta really do have different shape in their respective 8.1s, right?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 09, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

Alltimers too run an 8.1, the shape seemed pretty round. 

Re Control, for the most part are at least consistent for a North American manufacturer. 

I’m skating a Palace board and I’m so used to skating generator boards.  The flatter kicks are driving me nuts.  I’m used to that bit of concave coming up through the fingers of flat and the nose having that dip, when you put your foot in the pocket, it fits perfect.  This board, not so much…the wood though I actually really like. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 09, 2022, 08:17:10 AM

Quote from: sebbo on July 09, 2022, 07:17:41 AM

Does anybody know where wasted paris boards are pressed?

pretty sure they are from HLC but i'll try to get a confirmation

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on July 09, 2022, 08:43:09 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on July 09, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

Alltimers too run an 8.1, the shape seemed pretty round. 

Re Control, for the most part are at least consistent for a North American manufacturer. 

I’m skating a Palace board and I’m so used to skating generator boards.  The flatter kicks are driving me nuts.  I’m used to that bit of concave coming up through the fingers of flat and the nose having that dip, when you put your foot in the pocket, it fits perfect.  This board, not so much…the wood though I actually really like.

This palace board sounds dope, for me. I dislike bbs** concave. Which size palace? I’ll order one (no shops near me stock those).

**I do not like the bbs boards…humps/concave, how it dips down and …not for me. I’ll skate them, and they are good, just not ‘ideal’. I’m very certain the following is only in my head, and just gibberish: I do not understand the relationship with generator, and bbs. I’ve been told, more than a few times, by people working in the industry, that they are the same. I’ve been told like two times, that generator is smaller, older, prints the graphics, and also has a few presses. Boards that I’ve been told are generator, I tend to like more: flatter, more baker shaped. Local shop uses ‘generator’ for their shop decks, I like these better than any dlx (bbs) board I’ve had in the last 3 years. I want to stress than I am a know nothing, and this is all whatever, I mean I was reeeeeeal sure (pre Covid) that Krooked>anti hero>real boards, in that order. With Krookeds being noticeably better, to me (if I’m being honest this is probably more like 8-10 years ago, but around Covid times I felt like all of the boards were more obviously the same, and less good than they had been). None of this matters. I should go read a book.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 09, 2022, 05:53:59 PM

Quote from: Ok on July 09, 2022, 08:43:09 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on July 09, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

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Alltimers too run an 8.1, the shape seemed pretty round. 

Re Control, for the most part are at least consistent for a North American manufacturer. 

I’m skating a Palace board and I’m so used to skating generator boards.  The flatter kicks are driving me nuts.  I’m used to that bit of concave coming up through the fingers of flat and the nose having that dip, when you put your foot in the pocket, it fits perfect.  This board, not so much…the wood though I actually really like.

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This palace board sounds dope, for me. I dislike bbs** concave. Which size palace? I’ll order one (no shops near me stock those).

**I do not like the bbs boards…humps/concave, how it dips down and …not for me. I’ll skate them, and they are good, just not ‘ideal’. I’m very certain the following is only in my head, and just gibberish: I do not understand the relationship with generator, and bbs. I’ve been told, more than a few times, by people working in the industry, that they are the same. I’ve been told like two times, that generator is smaller, older, prints the graphics, and also has a few presses. Boards that I’ve been told are generator, I tend to like more: flatter, more baker shaped. Local shop uses ‘generator’ for their shop decks, I like these better than any dlx (bbs) board I’ve had in the last 3 years. I want to stress than I am a know nothing, and this is all whatever, I mean I was reeeeeeal sure (pre Covid) that Krooked>anti hero>real boards, in that order. With Krookeds being noticeably better, to me (if I’m being honest this is probably more like 8-10 years ago, but around Covid times I felt like all of the boards were more obviously the same, and less good than they had been). None of this matters. I should go read a book.

Everyone has their preferences for wood, so I can understand exactly what you mean.

Re Generator vs other BBS pressed brands, there is definitely a small but significant difference in concave and feel of wood so yes there is a difference between boards with Generator stickers and other BBS mainstream decks like DLX, Polar, Bakerboys, etc.  I would put that down to dedicated presses for some sections of the business or brand groupings, then some presses for other groupings.

Generator boards tend to feel flatter and not as much concave through the kicks, in the same way the DLX pricepoint decks did before the pandemic and almost identical when stacked, whereas the normal DLX decks had a lot more concave through the side rails and some even up through the kicks.

Some of the other pressed BBS boards feel different again, so I would almost think that when the Blackbox woodshop closed down, those presses went to BBS and are still being used on the Slave boards, going by their concave, which was significantly different to DLX.

FA / Hockey are just different again, steeper, but still have the similar concave to other BBS boards.

Magenta and Passport always felt different again, not as much concave through the middle, but fairly moderate to steep kicks on all the boards I have had pass through my hands.  That is without even starting on the different wood layups for different brands too, these two always having brown top and bottom and natural for the rest.

DLX nowdays has two assorted coloured top stains, one coloured bottom stain as their standard setup but some boards have specific or different wood layups.

Bakerboys and some others have an assorted coloured top and middle, or coloured top, middle and bottom, depending on the graphic usually - anything with see through graphic usually has coloured bottom as well.

Element almost always had the coloured top and red stained middle layer, but not on all boards.  More recently all theirs have had grey / charcoal tops and red middles.

Brands like Polar use very specific colours for all the decks with certain sizes or graphics in each run, which is rather unique too.


I haven't seen pricepoint boards in a while (most now have no stains / all natural for DLX) but those boards used to only have a top stain and the rest natural and definitely felt softer than the pro boards, as well as not holding up as well, under some heavy landings.

They still skated fine for me, but I think they flexed out a whole lot faster, as I don't break boards anymore and can make them last a lot longer than most people who skate harder than I do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 07:17:08 PM

Quote from: larry leadfoot on July 09, 2022, 06:03:00 AM

Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 05:44:15 AM

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Does anyone have details about Generator 8.125 shapes? As far as I know, both Polar and Magenta are Generators with same dimension (14.25 WB etc.), but somehow Polar 8.125 feels more pointy, especially the tail. I really liked the Magenta's more rounded 8.1, are there any other brands with same shape?

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It's one of my go to shapes, I've had so many. Any 8.125 in these brands will do you well:

Passport
Killing Floor
Theories
Hopps

8.12 or 8.125 they can be listed as, but it is the same width.


Are those boards you guys have skated all 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail? 

That is what the AH black eagle deck was with a long nose and tail, a bit pointy but a good shape overall, same as this one:

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/curb-riot-redux-812-skateboard-deck


Different to the shorter DLX 8.12 deck like the red Real board:

https://www.tactics.com/real/team-classic-oval-812-skateboard-deck



From looking through some places like Tactics that have all board info listed, I see now there are quite a few options for the 8.125 most around 31.75 to 31.85 in length, but some shorter too.

https://www.tactics.com/skateboard-decks/rs-8.125


The Tactics shop boards (which are BBS) are about standard it seems:


SIZE   8.125
   
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.875
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 08:51:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 07:17:08 PM

8.12 or 8.125 they can be listed as, but it is the same width.

Are those boards you guys have skated all 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail? 

I don't have the Magenta specs unfortunately, it was a 8.125. Polar is 32" long, but could be that Magenta was one of the shorter shapes. Tail of Polar feels bit long, not luckily too long.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 09:29:55 PM

Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 08:51:45 PM

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8.12 or 8.125 they can be listed as, but it is the same width.

Are those boards you guys have skated all 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail? 

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I don't have the Magenta specs unfortunately, it was a 8.125. Polar is 32" long, but could be that Magenta was one of the shorter shapes. Tail of Polar feels bit long, not luckily too long.

Yeah the Magenta was said to be 31.85 or so from spec info.

I have a couple of other 8.125 BBS boards, which all measure the same (as far as I can remember) at 32 long, which is funny as some of the 8.25 boards from most of those brands are a touch less than that.


I thought I had a Passport 8125 here, but it is at the indoor park, so will check that one again on Wednesday.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 10, 2022, 08:35:37 PM

Interesting to see this, Terminal Four, or more commonly named T4 which is an Aussie brand previously on Clutch wood appears to now be on something from China, given US and Mexico don't use Resin in their boards.

I hadn't seen anything from T4, along with FSC, Red F or Vow for a while, but given the issues some brands were having with Clutch, it makes sense that they would have taken a different route with wood supply.

If anyone has seen these in person, I would be curious to know if there is anything else on them, stickers or other info, or how the boards feel now.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CezupPUpPCd/



Leads on to this post too from Bread Brand:



https://www.instagram.com/p/CfQUUo7pGhj/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 10, 2022, 08:49:42 PM

Not sure if I had posted about this before, but I stumbled on another account I was not following, which usually means I hadn't seen it before.


https://www.instagram.com/art_of_boardmaking/

The Art of Boardmaking
Community
Free Instagram gallery for diy boardmaking and art. Shoot us a dm with your work and we will post it. Let’s spread the stoke and show some love.
www.artofboardmaking.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbTaAOmPjUJ/



The account also showcases some board makers with nice detailed pics and info, like this one:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbYuXu8p_BZ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sebbo on July 11, 2022, 04:42:15 AM

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Does anybody know where wasted paris boards are pressed?

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pretty sure they are from HLC but i'll try to get a confirmation

Thanks, man!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on July 11, 2022, 08:25:24 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

https://quarterdist.com/superply-maple-en/

germany

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:52:01 AM

Quote from: TwisT on July 11, 2022, 08:25:24 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

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Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

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https://quarterdist.com/superply-maple-en/

germany

Thanks man

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 11, 2022, 09:09:10 PM

Quote from: TwisT on July 11, 2022, 08:25:24 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

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Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

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https://quarterdist.com/superply-maple-en/

germany

I had a look at a few other boards and they are all shorter wheelbases, even for the 9 which was 14.25 for those who are interested.

The only down side is it is for the UK / EU market with product from Quarter Dist, for those in the USA, you might have to go looking a bit more.


https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/quickness-9-0-deck/

(https://i0.wp.com/avenueskateboards.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Popsicle-Shape-9.022.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on July 12, 2022, 01:43:45 AM

Shape looks pretty nice on paper

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 12, 2022, 01:56:21 AM

Quote from: TwisT on July 11, 2022, 08:25:24 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

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Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

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https://quarterdist.com/superply-maple-en/

germany

Are they actually pressing them though? Usually epoxy = China because environmental regulations make it harder to use in Western countries. Spain is an exception, as HLC does both, but usually if I see "xyz distribution" pop up with epoxy/resin boards I assume it's because they're importing them from China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on July 12, 2022, 03:06:48 AM

Yeah I imagine they’re just importing then printing in Germany

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 12, 2022, 04:13:48 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 12, 2022, 03:06:48 AM

Yeah I imagine they’re just importing then printing in Germany

i confirm this is what they do

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Pee nis on July 12, 2022, 06:51:27 AM

Anyone know what woodshop a primitive from China is from? I ordered 2 8.25s with the recent sale on their website and one is from Mexico so clearly BBS but other is from China which I wasn’t expecting

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nitro89 on July 12, 2022, 07:07:25 AM

Quote from: Pee nis on July 12, 2022, 06:51:27 AM

Anyone know what woodshop a primitive from China is from? I ordered 2 8.25s with the recent sale on their website and one is from Mexico so clearly BBS but other is from China which I wasn’t expecting

same thing happened to me over here in the uk. ordered two primitives from different shops both pro models, one china, one BBS although mine were 8.38 not 8.25.

me and a friend compared them to a few other decks he had laying around and the conclusion we came to was that there from Dailan Huahong as the wood/finish/shape/middle coloured plys matched up etc. there just the price points rather than the top spec crail decks that come out the same factory, same way that BBS do there price points.

the chinese one sogged out in about ten days. felt the tail go mehhh one day and that was that, flex city. id send the china one back and ask for a bbs replacement if you can.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Pee nis on July 12, 2022, 07:25:39 AM

Quote from: nitro89 on July 12, 2022, 07:07:25 AM

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Anyone know what woodshop a primitive from China is from? I ordered 2 8.25s with the recent sale on their website and one is from Mexico so clearly BBS but other is from China which I wasn’t expecting

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same thing happened to me over here in the uk. ordered two primitives from different shops both pro models, one china, one BBS although mine were 8.38 not 8.25.

me and a friend compared them to a few other decks he had laying around and the conclusion we came to was that there from Dailan Huahong as the wood/finish/shape/middle coloured plys matched up etc. there just the price points rather than the top spec crail decks that come out the same factory, same way that BBS do there price points.

the chinese one sogged out in about ten days. felt the tail go mehhh one day and that was that, flex city. id send the china one back and ask for a bbs replacement if you can.

Thanks I just emailed them back asking for a BBS replacement for the China deck. Hopefully they don’t have any issues with that. Price is the same too, so interesting one would be non BBS. I would understand it if the retail was cheaper, but there’s no indication at all on the site that it would be a different quality deck

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 12, 2022, 03:50:50 PM

That’s painful, I’d rather just buy from the companies who regularly manu out of china ie. dwindle/crail.  At least then you know what you’re getting…….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: left knee cap on July 12, 2022, 07:53:48 PM

I really wanna give Palace 8.38 another try, but the WB for this size is 8.75? What gives with that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on July 12, 2022, 11:37:23 PM

Quote from: left knee cap on July 12, 2022, 07:53:48 PM

I really wanna give Palace 8.38 another try, but the WB for this size is 8.75? What gives with that.

Palace shapes are weird, short boards and kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 13, 2022, 07:27:28 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on July 12, 2022, 11:37:23 PM

Quote from: left knee cap on July 12, 2022, 07:53:48 PM

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I really wanna give Palace 8.38 another try, but the WB for this size is 8.75? What gives with that.

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Palace shapes are weird, short boards and kicks.

Is this for real though?!?!?

I have looked up quite a few places I usually trust and all of them have VERY different dimensions, but I am guessing you had meant 14.875 wheelbase??

Every other Dwindle deck of that width is more like 14.25 wheelbase on a 31.85 to 32.1 length, but I totally get that some brands have very specific sizes for whoever rides them.


https://www.slamcity.com/products/palace-8-38-chewy-pro-s21-skateboard-deck

• Palace Chewy Cannon Pro Skateboard Deck
• Assorted wood veneers
• Width 8.38”
• Length 32.125”
• Wheelbase 14.875”
• Concave Mellow


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/palace-chewy-cannon-s28-8-375-skateboard-deck

WIDTH
8.375
LENGTH
32.1
WHEEL BASE
14.75

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lamfordie on July 13, 2022, 07:33:23 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf73XvqFZJE/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Anyone know which wood shop is making these?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 13, 2022, 07:39:28 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 12, 2022, 01:56:21 AM

Quote from: TwisT on July 11, 2022, 08:25:24 AM

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Quote from: Ride it to dust on July 11, 2022, 08:16:05 AM

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Does anyone recognise this sticker?

https://avenueskateboards.co.uk/product/harmony-8-5-deck/

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https://quarterdist.com/superply-maple-en/

germany

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Are they actually pressing them though? Usually epoxy = China because environmental regulations make it harder to use in Western countries. Spain is an exception, as HLC does both, but usually if I see "xyz distribution" pop up with epoxy/resin boards I assume it's because they're importing them from China.

This has been an interesting question and one which I often don't get an easy or simple answer to from a few places, but as you said, epoxy is usually a woodshop in China or somewhere that gets away with anything.

For the first page, third post, specific Woodshops info, I had them below the line in the second lot with the header
 "Manufacturers / Woodshops that DO NOT make their own boards but resell others list"  which includes Chapman, Progress, Point, PGI, MDCN, Quarter, Artprint and others.

At first I was going to make a completely separate list in a separate post, but thought it best to still be in the same one, only clearly marked as I have it.

Any other help with info, suggestions, etc is always appreciated too, from anyone in any form, be it on here, in a DM or whatever.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 13, 2022, 07:47:00 AM

Quote from: lamfordie on July 13, 2022, 07:33:23 AM

Anyone know which wood shop is making these?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf71inhl8_n/


Looks like the top side has two marks side by side, which look a lot like Clutch number / letter as per this link to the first page:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729107#msg3729107


Quite possibly that, when I zoomed in as far as I could without it getting all kinds of blurry but still couldn't make it out.

That is interesting though, another new looking Instagram account with a new website

https://blankchecksupply.com/


This one with the coloured stains definitely looks like Clutch

https://blankchecksupply.com/collections/shop


Comment / liked by someone Gallant, so was this the Ryan Gallant new business that I think was posted a while back?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 13, 2022, 08:07:58 AM

I did a little more digging and came up with the following.

Clutch does the boards for Visit (as per the master list on page 1) and there are definitely Clutch stains (which are very easy to spot when you know what you are looking for) on Visit decks, so I am also guessing that RG Woods which was the previous account shown from March 2022 was maybe not quite the brand name that they were going to go with and came up with Blank Check Supply instead.

Now if only you could skate like Ryan Gallant with one of his boards... But go check out his account as there is a good deal of skating in it too:

https://www.instagram.com/visit_ryangallant/



https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca5SmX_P6WE/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccq3mnuPpuZ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 08:33:48 AM

How do hockey and GX1000 shapes differ?

I love hockey / fa 8.18 decks with venture v hollow lights and wanted to try a 8.125 GX.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on July 20, 2022, 09:05:37 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 09:29:55 PM

Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 08:51:45 PM

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8.12 or 8.125 they can be listed as, but it is the same width.

Are those boards you guys have skated all 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail? 

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I don't have the Magenta specs unfortunately, it was a 8.125. Polar is 32" long, but could be that Magenta was one of the shorter shapes. Tail of Polar feels bit long, not luckily too long.

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Yeah the Magenta was said to be 31.85 or so from spec info.

I have a couple of other 8.125 BBS boards, which all measure the same (as far as I can remember) at 32 long, which is funny as some of the 8.25 boards from most of those brands are a touch less than that.


I thought I had a Passport 8125 here, but it is at the indoor park, so will check that one again on Wednesday.

Another shape that works for me with Indys: https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/magenta-gore-lucid-dream-8-4-skateboard-deck-multi_p154581

Could this one be the same shape as Grimple 8.4 from few years back, I absolutely loved that one? Seems like 14.25" WB but length less than 32" is my goldilocks shape, width really doesn't count that much.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 20, 2022, 07:21:23 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 08:33:48 AM

How do hockey and GX1000 shapes differ?

I love hockey / fa 8.18 decks with venture v hollow lights and wanted to try a 8.125 GX.

The different woodshops are probably the main thing, so anything from either woodshop is not quite going to feel the same as the other woodshop in concave comparison, but shapes and angle of kicks, they are not that far apart that you couldn't try one and the other and be at opposite ends of the scale.


Hockey or FA, on BBS, way steeper concave / kicks, much more blunt squared off kicks too, boards and wheelbases more on the shorter side overall compared to some brands.

GX1000 (same as Quasi), on PS Stix, more mellow concave than FA / Hockey but still sometimes steeper kicks than some other brands, blunt and stubby shaped, but not as squared off as some, about average in board length and wheelbase, depending on width and some shape options.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 09:46:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 20, 2022, 07:21:23 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 08:33:48 AM

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How do hockey and GX1000 shapes differ?

I love hockey / fa 8.18 decks with venture v hollow lights and wanted to try a 8.125 GX.

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The different woodshops are probably the main thing, so anything from either woodshop is not quite going to feel the same as the other woodshop in concave comparison, but shapes and angle of kicks, they are not that far apart that you couldn't try one and the other and be at opposite ends of the scale.


Hockey or FA, on BBS, way steeper concave / kicks, much more blunt squared off kicks too, boards and wheelbases more on the shorter side overall compared to some brands.

GX1000 (same as Quasi), on PS Stix, more mellow concave than FA / Hockey but still sometimes steeper kicks than some other brands, blunt and stubby shaped, but not as squared off as some, about average in board length and wheelbase, depending on width and some shape options.

Thx! Let’s see if I really can feel a difference between them.
I really like the FA Deck, but I think Nollie Flips Are a bit off because of the steep nose. Maybe I get used to it. Maybe not and I just switch around between fa and gx decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 08:59:46 AM

Is this deck ps or bbs?

https://www.soohotrightnow.com/shop/product/hockey-mac-green-deck-8-18-8-25/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on July 21, 2022, 09:01:54 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 08:59:46 AM

Is this deck ps or bbs?

https://www.soohotrightnow.com/shop/product/hockey-mac-green-deck-8-18-8-25/

BBS for sure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 09:19:08 AM

Quote from: LewFarrell on July 21, 2022, 09:01:54 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 08:59:46 AM

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Is this deck ps or bbs?

https://www.soohotrightnow.com/shop/product/hockey-mac-green-deck-8-18-8-25/

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Sure sure? Cause some shops say it’s ps. I do t know when this came out unfortunately
BBS for sure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 09:50:33 AM

This board was released after Hockey / FA made the switch to BBS

I guess shops still list them as PS because they just duplicate the product page (from previous drops) without changing what needs to be updated

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 09:58:38 AM

Alright , thx !

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 22, 2022, 03:09:46 AM

Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 20, 2022, 09:05:37 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 09:29:55 PM

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Quote from: Bongwater Mojito on July 09, 2022, 08:51:45 PM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 09, 2022, 07:17:08 PM

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8.12 or 8.125 they can be listed as, but it is the same width.

Are those boards you guys have skated all 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb, 7 nose and 6.75 tail? 

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I don't have the Magenta specs unfortunately, it was a 8.125. Polar is 32" long, but could be that Magenta was one of the shorter shapes. Tail of Polar feels bit long, not luckily too long.

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Yeah the Magenta was said to be 31.85 or so from spec info.

I have a couple of other 8.125 BBS boards, which all measure the same (as far as I can remember) at 32 long, which is funny as some of the 8.25 boards from most of those brands are a touch less than that.


I thought I had a Passport 8125 here, but it is at the indoor park, so will check that one again on Wednesday.

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Another shape that works for me with Indys: https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/magenta-gore-lucid-dream-8-4-skateboard-deck-multi_p154581

Could this one be the same shape as Grimple 8.4 from few years back, I absolutely loved that one? Seems like 14.25" WB but length less than 32" is my goldilocks shape, width really doesn't count that much.

I had meant to reply.

Yes I had one of those Magenta 8.4 boards too, which was a good in between size, eg not quite 8.5 but still bigger than 8.25 when I was looking for something besides the AH blue eagle 8.5 decks.



That Passport is 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb too. 

Shape was the same as the AH black eagle I held it against.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 22, 2022, 03:23:49 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

Yes for sure.

Many of the PS Stix boards I have had pass through my hands more recently were like this when compared to something of another brand, the PS Stix boards had a lot of taper on them, eg an 8.375 board at the front bolts but less than 8.25 at the back bolts and really noticeable when you look down on it from above.

There are a few BBS boards with that taper, like the AH blue eagle which is about 8.5 at front bolts and 8.3 at the back bolts, the AH white eagle which is 8.75 at the front bolts and just under 8.6 at the back bolts too, but I feel like they are way more uniform in shapes, most boards being a lot more straight through the rails.

There is another blank wholesale supplier brand I see a lot of here (unknown China) that have most shapes being nice - very straight through the rail, but the 8.5 for some reason has ridiculous taper, going down under 8.25 at the back bolts, which I don't find at all appealing.  The 8.375 and the 8.75 are straight and look good, as do all other sizes, so it was just weird that one board is so different.

To have all the shapes, like most PS Stix shapes seem to taper though is something I think I heard explained in that it still gives width through the front foot area but the taper gives a more streamlined and lighter back of the board, or something like that.

Some people might like it, but I prefer a board with the same width right through.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on July 22, 2022, 10:22:11 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 22, 2022, 03:09:46 AM

Yes I had one of those Magenta 8.4 boards too, which was a good in between size, eg not quite 8.5 but still bigger than 8.25 when I was looking for something besides the AH blue eagle 8.5 decks.

Exactly. For me, the 8.1 suits 144s and 8.4 149s. These two options seem to have cured my gear madness mostly, which is nice.

I wonder though, can the eighth of an inch in length really make the board feel that much clumsier or is daily variation and/or in my head. 🤔

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 23, 2022, 03:44:23 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 09:46:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 20, 2022, 07:21:23 PM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 08:33:48 AM

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How do hockey and GX1000 shapes differ?

I love hockey / fa 8.18 decks with venture v hollow lights and wanted to try a 8.125 GX.

[close]

The different woodshops are probably the main thing, so anything from either woodshop is not quite going to feel the same as the other woodshop in concave comparison, but shapes and angle of kicks, they are not that far apart that you couldn't try one and the other and be at opposite ends of the scale.


Hockey or FA, on BBS, way steeper concave / kicks, much more blunt squared off kicks too, boards and wheelbases more on the shorter side overall compared to some brands.

GX1000 (same as Quasi), on PS Stix, more mellow concave than FA / Hockey but still sometimes steeper kicks than some other brands, blunt and stubby shaped, but not as squared off as some, about average in board length and wheelbase, depending on width and some shape options.

[close]

Thx! Let’s see if I really can feel a difference between them.
I really like the FA Deck, but I think Nollie Flips Are a bit off because of the steep nose. Maybe I get used to it. Maybe not and I just switch around between fa and gx decks.

The clutch O shape is kind of a happy middle ground between the two. They're pretty easy to find most places too. Flip uses it and a lot of pandemic era pizza boards are on it so you can find them in bargain bins pretty regularly. O7 is the 8.25 and O6 is the 8.12, but the 7's are way more common. Dims should be 8.25 x 31.5 14.25 wb but really just look for square/full decks from smaller companies and you have a decent chance of it being a clutch O.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 23, 2022, 05:55:04 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on July 23, 2022, 03:44:23 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 09:46:04 PM

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How do hockey and GX1000 shapes differ?

I love hockey / fa 8.18 decks with venture v hollow lights and wanted to try a 8.125 GX.

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The different woodshops are probably the main thing, so anything from either woodshop is not quite going to feel the same as the other woodshop in concave comparison, but shapes and angle of kicks, they are not that far apart that you couldn't try one and the other and be at opposite ends of the scale.


Hockey or FA, on BBS, way steeper concave / kicks, much more blunt squared off kicks too, boards and wheelbases more on the shorter side overall compared to some brands.

GX1000 (same as Quasi), on PS Stix, more mellow concave than FA / Hockey but still sometimes steeper kicks than some other brands, blunt and stubby shaped, but not as squared off as some, about average in board length and wheelbase, depending on width and some shape options.

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Thx! Let’s see if I really can feel a difference between them.
I really like the FA Deck, but I think Nollie Flips Are a bit off because of the steep nose. Maybe I get used to it. Maybe not and I just switch around between fa and gx decks.

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The clutch O shape is kind of a happy middle ground between the two. They're pretty easy to find most places too. Flip uses it and a lot of pandemic era pizza boards are on it so you can find them in bargain bins pretty regularly. O7 is the 8.25 and O6 is the 8.12, but the 7's are way more common. Dims should be 8.25 x 31.5 14.25 wb but really just look for square/full decks from smaller companies and you have a decent chance of it being a clutch O.

Interesting, thx

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 25, 2022, 10:42:27 PM

I just added Metal Skateboards to the list, on BBS through AWS / Habitat distro with some decent shapes and crazy graphics for this small but main drop, as per pics on their instagram and places like Tactics.


https://www.instagram.com/sectogram/

https://www.instagram.com/metalskateboards/

https://www.tactics.com/search/metal+deck


There is a thread going with more info and pics too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122035.0


Top of the Ben Raybourn football / egg shape looks cool too (I left it big to see all the top detail):


(https://www.tactics.com/a/dvao/1b/metal-skateboards-ben-raybourn-chainsaw-825-egg-shape-skateboard-deck.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Damoforce on July 26, 2022, 09:07:53 PM

Am I seeing Toy Machine now on BBS wood? Or is that just certain countries?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 27, 2022, 09:19:06 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on July 26, 2022, 09:07:53 PM

Am I seeing Toy Machine now on BBS wood? Or is that just certain countries?

The most recent Toy Machine decks in Australia are still "Made in China" from an unknown woodshop, but it has been fairly widely acknowledged that in USA and other places, Toy Machine decks have been on both BBS and PS Stix since the pandemic.

Looking at some of the bigger US shops that have good pictures of the tops of boards, there is a mix of PS Stix, unknown (China) and others.

Mostly PS Stix on all the new pro boards though, with team boards from unknown (China).



*  Just updated the list with more accurate info

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 27, 2022, 09:29:13 AM

2022 Toy Machine new board from a US shop, with PS Stix serial number PS xxx and the larger red / white warning sticker up on the nose of the board.

Click or open in new window for the bigger image:


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMLRLTDK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 27, 2022, 09:39:28 AM

2022 Toy Machine from an Australian shop, which had "Made in China" on the sticker on the shrink wrap when I saw it in person in a shop, but apart from that, just the Toy Machine logo and the size of board laser engraved on the deck itself.

Click or open in new window for larger image:

(https://www.citybeach.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-fewstoneMaster/default/dwa0d346d8/images/20312576/20312576-02-BK-XL.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on July 27, 2022, 07:44:20 PM

Not sure if anyone has talked about it but Drifter skateboards out of Georgia is doing uncut blanks and unfinished/unsanded blansk for $25.00 Just ordered and uncut blank and an unfinished/unsanded. Unfinished deck was 8.375 with a nice rounded shape. Wheelbase 14.25. The nose and tail are both on the small side which im not a huge fan of. The uncut blanks come undrilled or predrilled with diff. wheelbases. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on July 28, 2022, 06:03:13 AM

Quote from: goodnews_cigjuice on July 27, 2022, 07:44:20 PM

Not sure if anyone has talked about it but Drifter skateboards out of Georgia is doing uncut blanks and unfinished/unsanded blansk for $25.00 Just ordered and uncut blank and an unfinished/unsanded. Unfinished deck was 8.375 with a nice rounded shape. Wheelbase 14.25. The nose and tail are both on the small side which im not a huge fan of. The uncut blanks come undrilled or predrilled with diff. wheelbases.

I have skated a drifter in a minute. Like 2014. They were the shop deck for everyone back in the day, so I rode a few. I stopped when only because I realized I didn’t like the shape at the time. Big nose, short tail, steep. Similar to what NHS was putting our at the time. Still really solid boards.

I saw this post, which leads me to believe they have since moved to a more bbs-Esque shape. I’ve been wanting to to go by the shop, but it’s about an hours drive.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgAkMWOpGCo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 28, 2022, 10:13:46 PM

I think the steepness of FA decks throws some stuff of for me. I got crazy pop and can skate them good. But I think specially my kickflip consistency ( normal ones , switch/ nollie, fs flips) is down and it doesn’t feel as controlled as with flatter decks.

Then again I really like the pop cause of the steepness and I like the round nose.


You think I might get used to it, or should I try something else next?
GX are steep too, right ? Quasi? Wknd?


Venture hollow lights btw

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rob on July 29, 2022, 12:05:27 AM

Hey guys I know there’s the search feature to filter this thread to find my answer but I looked and couldn’t find it cause I’m stupid

Anyone know the wood shop that makes zooyork?

It’s gotta be clutch maybe? Cause the quality and shape I’m riding doesn’t seem your typical generic cheap china shape

Terrible description on me but feels like a crailtap but with those new tech deck shape concave that’s hardcore pronounced, deep concave stiff nose and tail

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FuzzGNU on July 29, 2022, 12:54:02 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 28, 2022, 10:13:46 PM

I think the steepness of FA decks throws some stuff of for me. I got crazy pop and can skate them good. But I think specially my kickflip consistency ( normal ones , switch/ nollie, fs flips) is down and it doesn’t feel as controlled as with flatter decks.

Then again I really like the pop cause of the steepness and I like the round nose.


You think I might get used to it, or should I try something else next?
GX are steep too, right ? Quasi? Wknd?


Venture hollow lights btw

For me personally, Quasi had the opposite issue. The tail isn't steep enough. The tail feels really long (even though its fairly short) and flat (comfortable for riding). The tail *feels* long because if you think about it, it is technically longer in terms of going backwards (X/Z axis) because less of the length/angle is going upwards in the air (Y axis) and instead is going straight back.

The tail was causing me to ghost pop a lot when I first got it. Even now the ollie still feels very "delayed", so I had to learn to basically ollie earlier? I liked a lot about the deck-- especially for cruising (a lot of space for your back foot while pushing and turning), and having a really great shallow lever for controlling manuals-- but even now that I am 100% used to the deck, the pop is still a problem that makes me never want to buy one again. I really have to pop the back hard to get a decent ollie. Definitely was holding my ollie height back.

I'm now getting used to a Real Full SE and the tail feels so short and steep in comparison EVEN THOUGH the tail is actually longer than the Quasi! The ollie is jarring come from the Quasi because the Real actually snaps quickly right when I press on it. I am really missing the flat "long" tail for cruising and especially manuals... but I couldn't stand the ollie issues any longer.

I wish there was some sort of deck was is in between a FA and a Quasi. FAs sound too extreme for me, but Quasis are a tad extreme in the other direction. I'm hoping that either this Real Full SE or my Polar P2 (next deck after this one) ends up being the shape for me.

EDIT: Oh also, I'm using Ace trucks if that changes anything about how the tail pops. I've heard mellow tail and tall trucks can be an awkward combo I think and would explain that issue?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: clintendo on July 29, 2022, 03:41:02 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 27, 2022, 09:19:06 AM

Quote from: Damoforce on July 26, 2022, 09:07:53 PM

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Am I seeing Toy Machine now on BBS wood? Or is that just certain countries?

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The most recent Toy Machine decks in Australia are still "Made in China" from an unknown woodshop, but it has been fairly widely acknowledged that in USA and other places, Toy Machine decks have been on both BBS and PS Stix since the pandemic.

Looking at some of the bigger US shops that have good pictures of the tops of boards, there is a mix of PS Stix, unknown (China) and others.

Mostly PS Stix on all the new pro boards though, with team boards from unknown (China).



*  Just updated the list with more accurate info

Damn thats still a thing for Toy & Foundation in Aus huh, $120 asking price for the same black dyed top china boards is gnarly compared to Pass-Port BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 29, 2022, 05:00:30 AM

Quote from: rob on July 29, 2022, 12:05:27 AM

Hey guys I know there’s the search feature to filter this thread to find my answer but I looked and couldn’t find it cause I’m stupid

Anyone know the wood shop that makes zooyork?

It’s gotta be clutch maybe? Cause the quality and shape I’m riding doesn’t seem your typical generic cheap china shape

Terrible description on me but feels like a crailtap but with those new tech deck shape concave that’s hardcore pronounced, deep concave stiff nose and tail

Once the brand had a really good standing, but it seemed like it was sold, or sold out and was repurposed into a more generic brand for mainly clothing in department stores as far as I knew, so I don't have any current info on it really, which is frustrating.


Also, it might not have come up if you didn't have a space between Zoo and York.

I have tried to have the first page, first post with the master list, the most recent info I had was this:


Zoo York* -2020   ……….   ……….   Chapman
Zoo York* (EU) 2021   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)


Your description is about the same as the NOS Zoo York boards I still have from shop days, which had a single stamp on top, but not Clutch - that was a letter and number - and these ones just had a small number or something in them, super steep kicks, medium concave, fairly pointy ends too.

I do feel like some newer ones were different that I saw, but again there was nothing, not even a "Made in..." sticker on them and I couldn't get them down to stand on them either.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 29, 2022, 05:07:58 AM

There are some Zoo York boards on Skate Warehouse, more so just to check the pics than antyhing, but they show the single nail dot in the middle of the front bolts and a more normal rounded shape than the older ones I remember.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Zoo_York_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKZOOYORK.html


This was the typical shape of the Zoo York boards I have, different graphics though.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BgVdIaSFOsF/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 29, 2022, 05:53:01 AM

Quote from: FuzzGNU on July 29, 2022, 12:54:02 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 28, 2022, 10:13:46 PM

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I think the steepness of FA decks throws some stuff of for me. I got crazy pop and can skate them good. But I think specially my kickflip consistency ( normal ones , switch/ nollie, fs flips) is down and it doesn’t feel as controlled as with flatter decks.

Then again I really like the pop cause of the steepness and I like the round nose.


You think I might get used to it, or should I try something else next?
GX are steep too, right ? Quasi? Wknd?


Venture hollow lights btw

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For me personally, Quasi had the opposite issue. The tail isn't steep enough. The tail feels really long (even though its fairly short) and flat (comfortable for riding). The tail *feels* long because if you think about it, it is technically longer in terms of going backwards (X/Z axis) because less of the length/angle is going upwards in the air (Y axis) and instead is going straight back.

The tail was causing me to ghost pop a lot when I first got it. Even now the ollie still feels very "delayed", so I had to learn to basically ollie earlier? I liked a lot about the deck-- especially for cruising (a lot of space for your back foot while pushing and turning), and having a really great shallow lever for controlling manuals-- but even now that I am 100% used to the deck, the pop is still a problem that makes me never want to buy one again. I really have to pop the back hard to get a decent ollie. Definitely was holding my ollie height back.

I'm now getting used to a Real Full SE and the tail feels so short and steep in comparison EVEN THOUGH the tail is actually longer than the Quasi! The ollie is jarring come from the Quasi because the Real actually snaps quickly right when I press on it. I am really missing the flat "long" tail for cruising and especially manuals... but I couldn't stand the ollie issues any longer.

I wish there was some sort of deck was is in between a FA and a Quasi. FAs sound too extreme for me, but Quasis are a tad extreme in the other direction. I'm hoping that either this Real Full SE or my Polar P2 (next deck after this one) ends up being the shape for me.

EDIT: Oh also, I'm using Ace trucks if that changes anything about how the tail pops. I've heard mellow tail and tall trucks can be an awkward combo I think and would explain that issue?

I have one set of Ace on a DLX board and it skates ok (as well as Thunder and Venture), but I usually ride Indy on them as my preference and I do feel like there is a good pairing between some trucks with some shapes or variations in concave.   This one is more on the mellow side and I did have to adjust a bit to get used to how far in the trucks sit, compared to Thunder or especially Venture.

Given DLX actually number the tops with I, II, III or IV, I being the top of the press and steepest through to IV being the bottom of the press and more mellow, or at least that is how it is supposed to be, if you have access you can choose which board based on the top stamped number to get a better pairing for what you like.  Sometimes that is easier said than done, but it has worked for me and I prefer IV through to I last.  The other thing I found though is I can always flatten out a board by parking on the kick for a minute or more, whereas I can't make a flat board steeper, so I don't mind getting whatever number now and making it work for me.

That process is not for everyone, but it definitely works with BBS boards and I have done a lot to mellow some out a fair bit and others just a little bit.


As to finding something in between FA / Hockey and Quasi, being two different woodshops, it is harder to compare, but they both press four or so boards at a time and there is always the variance from that, the top board being steepest, the bottom board being not so steep, so even from each board, or a half a dozen of exactly the same board, there could be differences you would notice and some that would be great, some the opposite for you to ride.

The best advice I would have from working in shops is to go in to as many bigger shops (or whatever places you can really) and stand on a lot of boards to feel out which works for you and which are more comfortable to stand on.  It is not the be all and end all but it will definitely give you a much better understanding of different concaves, or different shapes that brands or woodshops use.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rob on July 30, 2022, 12:07:04 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 29, 2022, 05:07:58 AM

There are some Zoo York boards on Skate Warehouse, more so just to check the pics than antyhing, but they show the single nail dot in the middle of the front bolts and a more normal rounded shape than the older ones I remember.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Zoo_York_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKZOOYORK.html


This was the typical shape of the Zoo York boards I have, different graphics though.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BgVdIaSFOsF/

Exactly it has rounded nose and tail but nice deep concave

Like a crailtap but with deep concave

Thanks dude!! I just took a look at the Chapman site and supposedly zooyork in the US is still made by Chapman?

I hope so cause that means I know where to get my decks if zooyork changes for soem reason

I hope not, love the OG brand and it’s east coast roots as someone who grew up on the east

Shout out to Brandon westgate and his crazy pop, probably thanks to the Chapman decks haha

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 25, 2022, 10:42:27 PM

I just added Metal Skateboards to the list, on BBS through AWS / Habitat distro with some decent shapes and crazy graphics for this small but main drop, as per pics on their instagram and places like Tactics.


https://www.instagram.com/sectogram/

https://www.instagram.com/metalskateboards/

https://www.tactics.com/search/metal+deck


There is a thread going with more info and pics too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=122035.0


Top of the Ben Raybourn football / egg shape looks cool too (I left it big to see all the top detail):


(https://www.tactics.com/a/dvao/1b/metal-skateboards-ben-raybourn-chainsaw-825-egg-shape-skateboard-deck.webp)

I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

Habitat is not pressed / distributed by HLC anymore (and it's been a few years)
HLC pressed boards are great anyway
maybe you didn't pick the right shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 04:20:41 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

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I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

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Habitat is not pressed / distributed by HLC anymore (and it's been a few years)
HLC pressed boards are great anyway
maybe you didn't pick the right shape

Possible. I had a sour and a national and they both felt off somehow. Kinda heavy/dull feeling.
Not to bad but compared to the real and magenta boards I have, nothing I wanna buy anymore.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on July 30, 2022, 05:19:45 AM

For me the most incomprehensible thing about HLC is that all their boards have a 14.2” wheelbase. No matter the width, length, concave, shape. All 14.2”. That’s too short for me and thus I’ll never buy an HLC made deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 05:53:46 AM

Quote from: Roisto on July 30, 2022, 05:19:45 AM

For me the most incomprehensible thing about HLC is that all their boards have a 14.2” wheelbase. No matter the width, length, concave, shape. All 14.2”. That’s too short for me and thus I’ll never buy an HLC made deck.

yeah :/
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hlc-oem-skateboard-catalog.pdf (https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hlc-oem-skateboard-catalog.pdf)

Pretty sure it's fine for most skateboarders but i don't get it either
I should have a phone call next week with somebody in charge of production, i'll ask him why.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 30, 2022, 06:26:51 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

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I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

[close]

Habitat is not pressed / distributed by HLC anymore (and it's been a few years)
HLC pressed boards are great anyway
maybe you didn't pick the right shape

I think all that stuff is direct through Sovereign Sect Distribution now.

Of course I could be wrong, but they seem to be going more that route.


Sovereign Sect
Alien Workshop, Habitat, Metal Dealers.

https://www.instagram.com/sectogram/

https://sectdealer.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank on August 01, 2022, 06:22:37 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

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I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

[close]

Habitat is not pressed / distributed by HLC anymore (and it's been a few years)
HLC pressed boards are great anyway
maybe you didn't pick the right shape

i can't confirm this, but i heard they have better decks now. my experience with hlc was absolutely terrible all the time apart from one antiz deck i had, and i'm not sure that was hlc cause it felt very different and had a much different shape, too.

shape's were never a problem, just all around bad boards with no pop i broke after mere days.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 01, 2022, 05:57:22 PM

From the 2019 thread. Antiz uses Chinese wood but also bounces around to fit needs

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103057.30

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on August 01, 2022, 06:33:26 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 01, 2022, 05:29:44 PM

Quote from: Frank on August 01, 2022, 06:22:37 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on July 30, 2022, 03:06:00 AM

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Quote from: vicious cycle on July 30, 2022, 02:26:15 AM

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I'm in Europe. My distro got the first run of the Metal boards in. I ordered a few but now I wonder if they will be BBS or HLC. Because Habitat seems to deal with HLC when it comes to the Euro market.
I hope it's not HLC, my last Sour board was kinda meh.

[close]

Habitat is not pressed / distributed by HLC anymore (and it's been a few years)
HLC pressed boards are great anyway
maybe you didn't pick the right shape

[close]

i can't confirm this, but i heard they have better decks now. my experience with hlc was absolutely terrible all the time apart from one antiz deck i had, and i'm not sure that was hlc cause it felt very different and had a much different shape, too.

shape's were never a problem, just all around bad boards with no pop i broke after mere days.

[close]

I still couldn't get a straight answer regarding Antiz decks when I asked, but I believe they were from an unknown woodshop in China, as others have said before, either on here or in talking to them via other means.

Given their European beginnings I thought they would have been HLC, but apparently not.

I could easily be wrong though.

Definitely made in a random China woodshop, Antiz skate stuff can be readily found on Taobao (China's Amazon), alongside their other local brands.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 03, 2022, 06:37:23 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

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another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

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I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

Not quite the same thing, but I wonder sometimes if boards are cut or shaped the wrong way, given the nose and tail concave are different, so they will end up feeling weird, even if the shorter kick is still the tail, but the nose is actually the kick you want to skate, as per a couple of boards I had a while back now, which everyone said felt like they were the wrong way round.

Graphics printed upside down is not a worry, but I have seen a few of those too.


As for that shape, are they supposed to be straight through, or the usual PS Stix / Quasi taper front to back, or are those boards something else? 

More curious than anything, but how do they feel if you stand on them / skate them the other way?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 03, 2022, 07:33:15 PM

Another one that was not on the list.

Quote from: flober on August 01, 2022, 03:34:20 AM

First one from me  ;D kind of older one:
Robotron (German brand/HLC Wood) 8.2x32,1 WB:14.25 N:7.1 T:6.75 mellow concave, full kicks
Indy hollow standard 144
52mm Classics, worn down to ca. 50mm
Reds
Jessup Ultra
Indy Hardware


(https://i.postimg.cc/NM28cJdB/72-C1440-B-4-A87-4683-AC39-3359-F92-C5-DB1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qh06cLf5)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: brownjenkin on August 03, 2022, 07:43:40 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

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another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

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I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

I just got an 8.125 Quasi and it's true to size at the back bolts and 1/16 narrower at the front. Not sure I would have noticed if I hadn't measured.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ambiguousclarity on August 04, 2022, 03:15:07 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 03, 2022, 06:37:23 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

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another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

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I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

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Not quite the same thing, but I wonder sometimes if boards are cut or shaped the wrong way, given the nose and tail concave are different, so they will end up feeling weird, even if the shorter kick is still the tail, but the nose is actually the kick you want to skate, as per a couple of boards I had a while back now, which everyone said felt like they were the wrong way round.

Graphics printed upside down is not a worry, but I have seen a few of those too.


As for that shape, are they supposed to be straight through, or the usual PS Stix / Quasi taper front to back, or are those boards something else? 

More curious than anything, but how do they feel if you stand on them / skate them the other way?

It feels comfortable to skate either way. The pop is noticeably different, due to the nose being steeper than the tail. Overall, I like the feel of the deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 04, 2022, 06:18:23 PM

I was looking through something the other day and came across these guys again. 

For anyone keen on USA made skateboards, as well as the option to make custom molds to do pretty much whatever concave, size, shape, etc.  Sounds like a good thing for board shapes that are no longer being made but were exactly what you wanted.


Empire Skateboard MFG
USA
http://empireskatemfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/empireskateboardmfg/



https://www.instagram.com/p/CPUijkmFgRX/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdKWrpEsNWk/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on August 04, 2022, 08:17:46 PM

Quote from: brownjenkin on August 03, 2022, 07:43:40 PM

Quote from: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

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another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

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I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

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I just got an 8.125 Quasi and it's true to size at the back bolts and 1/16 narrower at the front. Not sure I would have noticed if I hadn't measured.

I have a 8.125 GX1000 deck (same shape as Quasi IIRC) and it doesn't seem to taper at all though I haven't measured to be sure.. Nose seems pretty fat (like Alien/Habitat, not FA). Does it taper slightly at the front bolts and then get wider again at the nose? I misplaced my measuring tape somehow so I can't check myself.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 04, 2022, 08:22:00 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbvc4FKJNdw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

@Woodshop drifter has a post that also claimed to have made this shape.

What board is this? Anyone know the specs of this board?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: brownjenkin on August 04, 2022, 09:10:32 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on August 04, 2022, 08:17:46 PM

Quote from: brownjenkin on August 03, 2022, 07:43:40 PM

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Quote from: ambiguousclarity on August 02, 2022, 05:46:42 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on July 21, 2022, 02:26:34 AM

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another notable thing about PS stix boards is that they are wider at the front truck and narrower at the back truck (weird V shape)

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I've got two 8.625 Quasi decks and both taper from back to front.That is, the deck is narrower at the front bolts on both the boards. The nose looks narrower than the tail too. I checked the nose and tail lengths to make sure I didn't have them ass around.

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I just got an 8.125 Quasi and it's true to size at the back bolts and 1/16 narrower at the front. Not sure I would have noticed if I hadn't measured.

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I have a 8.125 GX1000 deck (same shape as Quasi IIRC) and it doesn't seem to taper at all though I haven't measured to be sure.. Nose seems pretty fat (like Alien/Habitat, not FA). Does it taper slightly at the front bolts and then get wider again at the nose? I misplaced my measuring tape somehow so I can't check myself.

Yup, sounds like the same shape from that description.

Mine does not get wider at the nose. It actually tapers to 8.0 about one inch in front of the front bolts where the nose begins to curve up.

The widest (8.125) section of the board is from the inner back bolts to about the middle of the board, at which point it tapers very slightly towards the nose.

Kinda weird, but I love the shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2022, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 04, 2022, 08:22:00 PM

@Woodshop drifter has a post that also claimed to have made this shape.

What board is this? Anyone know the specs of this board?

Yes, I had to do a double take as well, but it looks like the owner of that board wanted more of that exact shape and had sent it around to get it specially made for him.

So awesome that the guy from Empire woodshop actually bought a fresh one to get the actual shape, as the board the guy had was fairly worn out so they could not map it out correctly too.


It is the DLX original Full shape, 8.75 x 32.86 with a 14.7 wb, 7.25 nose and 6.65 tail on the one I have.  The thing is a beast.  So big and so squared off, but a pretty good size, shape, etc for people who need a bigger overall ride.


There is an old listing for that exact board here, but the listed wheelbase is wrong on that one:

https://www.slamcity.com/products/anti-hero-8-75-grosso-plastics-full-skateboard-deck

They have the best pics on that site too.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/anti-hero-deck-anti-hero-8-75-grosso-plastics-full-skateboard-deck-14230910271558_960x960_crop_center.jpg?v=1596487668)



The old info was here, with pic below too:

https://www.realskateboards.com/construction/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/realsb/assets/img/construction-layout-full-decks-2.jpg)



This was the one I have:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLvkli_FuRg/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on August 05, 2022, 08:25:43 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

Chinese woodshop

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 11:25:46 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2022, 08:25:43 AM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

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Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

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Chinese woodshop

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank on August 05, 2022, 03:29:40 PM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 11:25:46 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2022, 08:25:43 AM

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Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

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Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

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Chinese woodshop

[close]

Thanks!

when a german brand doesn't explicitly state they use na/mexico woodshops like generator/bbs or ps stix then they most likely use excel or another chinese woodshop, or hlc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2022, 07:31:45 PM

Quote from: Frank on August 05, 2022, 03:29:40 PM

Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 11:25:46 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2022, 08:25:43 AM

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Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

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Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

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Chinese woodshop

[close]

Thanks!

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when a german brand doesn't explicitly state they use na/mexico woodshops like generator/bbs or ps stix then they most likely use excel or another chinese woodshop, or hlc.

It must have been from a previous woodshop thread, but I was thinking that Mob Skateboards had been brought up before too.

Might have been confusing it with Trap Skateboards, but they all seemed to be "unknown" from one of the blank board resellers in country there, which as said all used woodshops from China.

I might just have to add them to the list with "unknown" on them, if nothing more than to have the brand name there.


Checked and they were through MDCN or Quarter Dist, from what others had said in previous threads.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank on August 05, 2022, 07:34:25 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 05, 2022, 07:31:45 PM

Quote from: Frank on August 05, 2022, 03:29:40 PM

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Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 11:25:46 AM

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Quote from: BALARGUE on August 05, 2022, 08:25:43 AM

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Quote from: Ride it to dust on August 05, 2022, 07:58:13 AM

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Anyone familiar with this brand? “Mob”?
Looks like they’re a German company but no idea where they’re pressed
(https://i.ibb.co/zV1f3nQ/F28-ECC32-660-D-47-E3-B751-330-EDFB83-DE2.png) (https://ibb.co/zV1f3nQ)

[close]

Chinese woodshop

[close]

Thanks!

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when a german brand doesn't explicitly state they use na/mexico woodshops like generator/bbs or ps stix then they most likely use excel or another chinese woodshop, or hlc.

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It must have been from a previous woodshop thread, but I was thinking that Mob Skateboards had been brought up before too.

Might have been confusing it with Trap Skateboards, but they all seemed to be "unknown" from one of the blank board resellers in country there, which as said all used woodshops from China.

I might just have to add them to the list with "unknown" on them, if nothing more than to have the brand name there.

yeah, sometimes they used to say stuff like "this is made in the same factory as girl decks!" i could see that, those were already chinese made at that point as well. and i think no one knew for the longest time where.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 05, 2022, 07:48:41 PM

Quote from: Frank on August 05, 2022, 07:34:25 PM

yeah, sometimes they used to say stuff like "this is made in the same factory as girl decks!" i could see that, those were already chinese made at that point as well. and i think no one knew for the longest time where.

Ha yeah, lots of places still use that line, or the more common "Our boards come from the same factory as all the world's biggest brands" which is an instant giveaway, because usually it is not wood or concave I recognise by feel and there are quite a few woodshops that supply ALL the worlds biggest brands, so I just smile and nod and think "You just got another generic board from an unknown woodshop in China" or something similar.

Not a worry though, as a lot of those places do actually make decent boards nowdays, but if you can't actually give a woodshop name or any other info, you are just another dodgy salesman in my eyes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: radcunt on August 07, 2022, 05:30:59 AM

So anyone got the goss on Prime?  I'm ordering a Vallely Barnyard & Sticker-o-rama from them and saw that they do blanks or custom heat transfers on their shapes, and wanna get a Barnyard to ride with something printed on it.  Are they good boards? Are they kinda shady?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 08, 2022, 02:27:46 AM

Quote from: radcunt on August 07, 2022, 05:30:59 AM

So anyone got the goss on Prime?  I'm ordering a Vallely Barnyard & Sticker-o-rama from them and saw that they do blanks or custom heat transfers on their shapes, and wanna get a Barnyard to ride with something printed on it.  Are they good boards? Are they kinda shady?

A few guys here in Australia had some of their shaped blanks a while back and they were good solid boards.

Not sure exactly where they got them, but they went in on a bulk order from a US shop and were happy with their purchase - a few slightly different shapes from 8.6 to 9.1 or so, if I recall correctly.

I don't know much else about them, besides having a go on these ones, which felt pretty good, about middle of the pack in terms of concave, feel of kicks, not flat but not steep either, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: radcunt on August 08, 2022, 05:21:45 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 08, 2022, 02:27:46 AM

Quote from: radcunt on August 07, 2022, 05:30:59 AM

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So anyone got the goss on Prime?  I'm ordering a Vallely Barnyard & Sticker-o-rama from them and saw that they do blanks or custom heat transfers on their shapes, and wanna get a Barnyard to ride with something printed on it.  Are they good boards? Are they kinda shady?

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A few guys here in Australia had some of their shaped blanks a while back and they were good solid boards.

Not sure exactly where they got them, but they went in on a bulk order from a US shop and were happy with their purchase - a few slightly different shapes from 8.6 to 9.1 or so, if I recall correctly.

I don't know much else about them, besides having a go on these ones, which felt pretty good, about middle of the pack in terms of concave, feel of kicks, not flat but not steep either, etc.

Rad thanks.  Yeah, i'm buying 2 decks from them and it seems it's a fixed shipping rate so looking to add a couple of riders in there, and have always wanted to ride that Barnyard shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PuffinMuffin on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/rx92hvdh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6MlX9oh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/kw6Vff7h.png?1)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 12, 2022, 09:03:35 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/rx92hvdh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6MlX9oh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/kw6Vff7h.png?1)

I've skated several 5boro boards which are also on South Central and I've never encountered this issue.  I too really enjoy SC wood. I've got a politic 8.5 on ice right now that I'm going to check once I get home though now that you've brought this to light.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on August 12, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/rx92hvdh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6MlX9oh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/kw6Vff7h.png?1)

Not a common issue but I'm not surprised either. Rumor has it that SC uses..  how can I put this?.. "unskilled labor". The kind that the state provides. This let's them keep their costs down enough to be one of the last USA woodshops and maybe the biggest one in terms of capacity, but if it's true then it's safe to say the guys doing the work probably don't skate and wouldn't be able to spot this kinda thing.

That being said, I've had probably 40-50 SC decks and never had an issue. If you liked the wood and shape but want to support a small but rad company then Politic or DOA standard use the same mold👍

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pennswood on August 12, 2022, 12:23:03 PM

Typical of the posts I see in this thread. The last couple posts are complete BS. neither one of you have any real knowledge about what's going on in two family owned and operated woodshops. We both, SC and PW, have been making boards in the US for over twenty years. Both have a staff of employees who have kids to feed and have just gone through two of the toughest years we've had so far. How do you make posts of complete made up stories concerning our employment and do it with complete confidence that you are correct? The reason we are both still in business is because we care about our product and employees.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 12, 2022, 03:01:01 PM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

I have seen occasional boards with holes drilled incorrectly, but very few and far between.  Guessing it happens though.

That would be a valid warranty claim right there, either through the shop you bought it from or the board brand if the shop was not able to help you.



As to other things, being on a different continent, I have nothing to add but I would say places who are essentially "small business" usually have core staff and skateboard manufacturing seems like something that you can't just get any random person in to do.

A friend used to make boards well over twenty years ago and I helped a bit with that and there is no way anyone without a clue could do much of that.


As to information about woodshops, I created this thread to help with listing information more than anything, so any input is valued in that regard.  What I also understand is that Slap is a "Wild West" of a message board at times so in saying that, what is acceptable and what is not?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 12, 2022, 03:06:01 PM

Re South Central woodshop


Is it just me or some businesses / woodshops just don't have a lot of information out there?


I had another look over their web page, looked up other various things and although there is some information, there is not a whole lot compared to other places.

South Central (est 1992)
USA
http://www.skateboardmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/southcentralwoodshop/



These look good though.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BFJn4VQEnMr/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBWhzbol-WF/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Boog on August 12, 2022, 05:43:17 PM

Quote from: pennswood on August 12, 2022, 12:23:03 PM

Typical of the posts I see in this thread. The last couple posts are complete BS. neither one of you have any real knowledge about what's going on in two family owned and operated woodshops. We both, SC and PW, have been making boards in the US for over twenty years. Both have a staff of employees who have kids to feed and have just gone through two of the toughest years we've had so far. How do you make posts of complete made up stories concerning our employment and do it with complete confidence that you are correct? The reason we are both still in business is because we care about our product and employees.

Just a bunch of know-it-all dipshits on this message board for the most part. Respect for responding and letting people know what's up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on August 13, 2022, 01:43:58 AM

If woodshops/brands were transparent, there would be no room for rumors or stuff like that

We still have a board with wrong drilling that SHOULD not go through quality control.
how about that ?

I won't deny the know it all part on other sections of the forums but it's the wrong topic to whine about it as most people sharing information here care and usually double-check

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 13, 2022, 07:42:20 PM

I noticed from another post that Skate Mental looked like it had a BBS sticker on it.


On checking other online skate shops with good top pics, it seems that all the current boards are BBS too.


Not sure if I missed this if someone else had said it, but at least that is one more correction to the main list, as they had most recently been on Clutch, with PS Stix / China (unknown) before that for some of their boards.


Some of the shapes look like the usual BBS boards, but others seem different, even full shapes from a few of them.




Example:


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Mental_Del_Campo_Snaps_Deck/descpage-SMDCSN80DK.html

(Click for bigger image)

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=SMDCSN80DK-2.jpg)








Original post here:


*  That filmer board is pretty cool too.

Quote from: off on August 12, 2022, 07:38:16 PM

skate mental vx deck
9.25/31.38/14.25wb
(https://i.ibb.co/G5bgVCJ/142-FCC80-BF1-B-45-B6-9576-3828729656-DF.webp) (https://ibb.co/jr17L35)
(https://i.ibb.co/37jdcvS/3-F79-ABC1-FFD8-4-C7-A-9-C7-D-65558706-A0-FC.webp) (https://ibb.co/g3f9Jdt)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: somedudefromnj on August 14, 2022, 02:03:47 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on July 28, 2022, 10:13:46 PM

I think the steepness of FA decks throws some stuff of for me. I got crazy pop and can skate them good. But I think specially my kickflip consistency ( normal ones , switch/ nollie, fs flips) is down and it doesn’t feel as controlled as with flatter decks.

Then again I really like the pop cause of the steepness and I like the round nose.


You think I might get used to it, or should I try something else next?
GX are steep too, right ? Quasi? Wknd?


Venture hollow lights btw

Been meaning to ask about this. Ive been riding mostly quasi and GX boards as of late, and a buddy of mine said GX decks are flat as shit (he rides habitats regularly). I havent really noticed since ive been riding the same stuff for so long, but I wanted to ask is this true? It was an 8.25 GX board, nose and tail felt pleasantly steep to me but maybe the concave going across is on the flatter side or something?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Idk on August 14, 2022, 02:43:44 PM

PS stix for the most part is flat. Every one I’ve gone on that was a Quasi or old FA or WKND or Welcome were flat shapes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on August 17, 2022, 11:00:48 AM

Latest run of GX1000 boards appears to be on BBS wood: https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375 (https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 17, 2022, 06:16:49 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on August 17, 2022, 11:00:48 AM

Latest run of GX1000 boards appears to be on BBS wood: https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375 (https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375)

Well spotted!


If they are going with the same full shapes, these might be the same as the Alien Workshop shapes, especially with those dimensions, as per that page:


Details:
■8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS



I had a look through some more, not all and I see quite a few are now BBS, so I wonder if that is now all new boards, or just some with them using both woodshops.

Another good one:

https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/you-are-not-what-you-think-you-are-8-5

Details:
■8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board2_d1f47250-c100-409b-847d-e9beea06e1cc_1024x1024.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 17, 2022, 06:21:04 PM

That graphic feels quasi but lazy

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 17, 2022, 06:24:52 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 17, 2022, 06:21:04 PM

That graphic feels quasi but lazy

I went back and changed the board from the Doom graphic to another one, but yes, some seem more minimal, which could definitely come off as lazy.


Some of those other graphics had me checking which brand they were, but others are definitely in the same vein.


Also some of the dimensions are a bit more out there too.



https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/copy-of-spray-paint-8-125

Details:
■8.625" x 33" WB 14.75"
■ Manufactured at BBS


https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/sean-greene-with-us-8-75

Details:
■8.75" x 32.625" WB 14.5"
■ Manufactured at BBS


I wonder if they are measured with the concave or straight across.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 18, 2022, 12:16:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 17, 2022, 06:16:49 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on August 17, 2022, 11:00:48 AM

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Latest run of GX1000 boards appears to be on BBS wood: https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375 (https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375)

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Well spotted!


If they are going with the same full shapes, these might be the same as the Alien Workshop shapes, especially with those dimensions, as per that page:


Details:
■8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS



I had a look through some more, not all and I see quite a few are now BBS, so I wonder if that is now all new boards, or just some with them using both woodshops.

Another good one:

https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/you-are-not-what-you-think-you-are-8-5

Details:
■8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board2_d1f47250-c100-409b-847d-e9beea06e1cc_1024x1024.jpg)

Wow I love that graphic, it tapped into some deep nostalgia instantly.  Like a Berenstain Bear color palate?  Really sick

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 18, 2022, 06:49:23 AM

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board3_61a5b0b8-aa7c-4942-acf1-bbec487d03f5_1024x1024.jpg?v=1659631847)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 18, 2022, 06:52:57 AM

Quote from: TwisT on August 18, 2022, 06:49:23 AM

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board3_61a5b0b8-aa7c-4942-acf1-bbec487d03f5_1024x1024.jpg?v=1659631847)

Dimensions on that look really really good

8.625" x 33" WB 14.75"

Beautiful board

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on August 18, 2022, 12:33:14 PM

Quote from: Sketch Hitchcock on August 18, 2022, 06:52:57 AM

Quote from: TwisT on August 18, 2022, 06:49:23 AM

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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board3_61a5b0b8-aa7c-4942-acf1-bbec487d03f5_1024x1024.jpg?v=1659631847)

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Dimensions on that look really really good

8.625" x 33" WB 14.75"

Beautiful board

Looks good. And that graphic is a bit something alright.  :)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 18, 2022, 02:33:09 PM

Quote from: Roisto on August 18, 2022, 12:33:14 PM

Quote from: Sketch Hitchcock on August 18, 2022, 06:52:57 AM

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Quote from: TwisT on August 18, 2022, 06:49:23 AM

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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board3_61a5b0b8-aa7c-4942-acf1-bbec487d03f5_1024x1024.jpg?v=1659631847)

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Dimensions on that look really really good

8.625" x 33" WB 14.75"

Beautiful board

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Looks good. And that graphic is a bit something alright.  :)

I bought a Santa Cruz TMNT collab everslick a few years back if that gives you any insight into my weakness for the Turtles.  They’re my collab / corny reference exception, can’t resist

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 18, 2022, 05:42:58 PM

I am keen to hear if that board is actually 33 long, or if it is more like 32.5 or something similar, as per other boards that do have 14.75 wb and reasonable length kicks.

Either way, it is good for a bigger board.


Example, the DLX 8.62 x 32.56 with 14.75 wb

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on August 18, 2022, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 12, 2022, 03:01:01 PM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

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I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

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I have seen occasional boards with holes drilled incorrectly, but very few and far between.  Guessing it happens though.

That would be a valid warranty claim right there, either through the shop you bought it from or the board brand if the shop was not able to help you.



As to other things, being on a different continent, I have nothing to add but I would say places who are essentially "small business" usually have core staff and skateboard manufacturing seems like something that you can't just get any random person in to do.

A friend used to make boards well over twenty years ago and I helped a bit with that and there is no way anyone without a clue could do much of that.


As to information about woodshops, I created this thread to help with listing information more than anything, so any input is valued in that regard.  What I also understand is that Slap is a "Wild West" of a message board at times so in saying that, what is acceptable and what is not?

The drilling problems do happen.
I’m not posting this to stir shit up because the companies involved are making things right but sometimes quality control takes a day off :)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jzky14X/4900-AD7-F-7-AAE-4-D4-E-AFD4-5123126-D1-D8-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NLYmvPw)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1xQJ30/1-C58162-D-9-BAF-479-E-8-BF6-CBB7986-B6-B0-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YdFwVqs)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 18, 2022, 07:56:32 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on August 18, 2022, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 12, 2022, 03:01:01 PM

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Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

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I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

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I have seen occasional boards with holes drilled incorrectly, but very few and far between.  Guessing it happens though.

That would be a valid warranty claim right there, either through the shop you bought it from or the board brand if the shop was not able to help you.



As to other things, being on a different continent, I have nothing to add but I would say places who are essentially "small business" usually have core staff and skateboard manufacturing seems like something that you can't just get any random person in to do.

A friend used to make boards well over twenty years ago and I helped a bit with that and there is no way anyone without a clue could do much of that.


As to information about woodshops, I created this thread to help with listing information more than anything, so any input is valued in that regard.  What I also understand is that Slap is a "Wild West" of a message board at times so in saying that, what is acceptable and what is not?

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The drilling problems do happen.
I’m not posting this to stir shit up because the companies involved are making things right but sometimes quality control takes a day off :)

I have a H Street Hensley "King Size"  reissue that is also off.  It was in a used board lot from someone recently, but it was only after setting it up did I feel the pull to one side, then when checked sure enough the front bolts were on a bit of an angle.

Given how many millions of decks come out correct as they should, maybe it is of little importance, but as you said (and I said) the warranty process takes care of all that easily enough anyway.


It is weird too as some places drill the holes at the same time, so I don't quite see how it can get messed up.

Just an observation from a pic, with caption:


"Truckholes are drilled simutanously for accuracy"

http://www.skateboardmfg.com/factorytour6.html


Or this one:


https://www.autodrill.com/industries/skateboards/

(https://www.autodrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Skateboard-Fixture-Example-1024x768.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: camel filters on August 19, 2022, 10:51:32 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 17, 2022, 06:16:49 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on August 17, 2022, 11:00:48 AM

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Latest run of GX1000 boards appears to be on BBS wood: https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375 (https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375)

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Well spotted!


If they are going with the same full shapes, these might be the same as the Alien Workshop shapes, especially with those dimensions, as per that page:


Details:
■8.375" x 32.25" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS



I had a look through some more, not all and I see quite a few are now BBS, so I wonder if that is now all new boards, or just some with them using both woodshops.

Another good one:

https://gx1000.com/collections/boards/products/you-are-not-what-you-think-you-are-8-5

Details:
■8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Manufactured at BBS

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/4358/9961/products/GX1000SU22Board2_d1f47250-c100-409b-847d-e9beea06e1cc_1024x1024.jpg)

I know Quasi has been dipping their toes into bbs but I hope they follow GX's suit and make all their boards there. My current PS Quasi is a poor excuse for a deck and it really blows my mind they sold it for 65 bucks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Idk on August 19, 2022, 04:01:42 PM

I’m so happy more and more brands are leaving PS stix. What a terrible woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2022, 04:56:19 PM

Quote from: Idk on August 19, 2022, 04:01:42 PM

I’m so happy more and more brands are leaving PS stix. What a terrible woodshop.

The thing is back in the day, they made amazing boards.

I have had so many Black Label and other brand PS Stix boards (admittedly USA made going back to around the 2000 era) that were so stiff, solid and well made, quite a few of which I still have today and they really are such long lasting decks.  There are still some set up as completes now, especially in the bigger sizes that are so good to ride, so at one point, I would have said that they were pretty much at the top of the woodshop list in that regard.

The dozen or so boards that have come from PS Stix that have passed through my hands in the last few years (most made before covid) have also been good, solid and well made boards, so I wonder if it is more so just after covid production or other issues that have caused the drop in quality, or similar things.

A new one I stood on the other day did look and feel as usual, good and stiff, no issues with the manufacturing or shape, so I am also wondering where it fits in to the timeline, but I assume it was made more recently.


That said, there have also been a lot of people not so happy with other boards from different woodshops, post covid, so there seemed like there could have been rushed construction / curing times, which then led to quality control issues and other things, including from BBS, so it can't just be put down to one single woodshop having issues.

Whatever the case, it is a curious one and something not limited to just one woodshop, but the mass exodus of established brands from any given woodshop is also an indication of issue going on and trouble for them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on August 20, 2022, 05:13:55 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 20, 2022, 04:56:19 PM

Quote from: Idk on August 19, 2022, 04:01:42 PM

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I’m so happy more and more brands are leaving PS stix. What a terrible woodshop.

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The thing is back in the day, they made amazing boards.

I have had so many Black Label and other brand PS Stix boards (admittedly USA made going back to around the 2000 era) that were so stiff, solid and well made, quite a few of which I still have today and they really are such long lasting decks.  There are still some set up as completes now, especially in the bigger sizes that are so good to ride, so at one point, I would have said that they were pretty much at the top of the woodshop list in that regard.

The dozen or so boards that have come from PS Stix that have passed through my hands in the last few years (most made before covid) have also been good, solid and well made boards, so I wonder if it is more so just after covid production or other issues that have caused the drop in quality, or similar things.

A new one I stood on the other day did look and feel as usual, good and stiff, no issues with the manufacturing or shape, so I am also wondering where it fits in to the timeline, but I assume it was made more recently.


That said, there have also been a lot of people not so happy with other boards from different woodshops, post covid, so there seemed like there could have been rushed construction / curing times, which then led to quality control issues and other things, including from BBS, so it can't just be put down to one single woodshop having issues.

Whatever the case, it is a curious one and something not limited to just one woodshop, but the mass exodus of established brands from any given woodshop is also an indication of issue going on and trouble for them.

I always felt like a new PS deck felt the best out of any other woodshop, but they wear out and get soggy so quickly.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 24, 2022, 10:30:32 AM

Re "Holes drilled incorrectly issue" + 1 (from the Egg shaped boards thread)


It can happen to anyone, from any woodshop, this one a Primitive board from BBS woodshop.

Quote from: kneebone on August 23, 2022, 02:33:43 PM

just set up the 2nd of my Villani eggs from the 2fer deal and immediately noticed that something seemed off. Got out my tape measure and confirmed that the front truck holes are drilled 1/8" off-center. Gonna take it out for a spin tonight to see if i can notice it, but i feel like it's going to be a thing of mind-over-matter and will always bother me. I wonder if it's because of the extreme taper which causes the inconsistency in QC? I didn't notice this on the other deck but now i'll have to go double-check that one. It's slightly noticeable here in the photo, much more apparent IRL
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4QZCjFk/IMG-1091.jpg)

It's definitely BBS/Mexico. I actually wound up having a fantastic session on it, and now that it's worn in a bit it seems less noticeable. I don't often venture into the woodshop thread except to check out a new brand, so I'm not familiar with the specific discussion on this there, but feel free to share.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 24, 2022, 11:48:29 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on August 20, 2022, 05:13:55 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 20, 2022, 04:56:19 PM

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Quote from: Idk on August 19, 2022, 04:01:42 PM

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I’m so happy more and more brands are leaving PS stix. What a terrible woodshop.

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The thing is back in the day, they made amazing boards.

I have had so many Black Label and other brand PS Stix boards (admittedly USA made going back to around the 2000 era) that were so stiff, solid and well made, quite a few of which I still have today and they really are such long lasting decks.  There are still some set up as completes now, especially in the bigger sizes that are so good to ride, so at one point, I would have said that they were pretty much at the top of the woodshop list in that regard.

The dozen or so boards that have come from PS Stix that have passed through my hands in the last few years (most made before covid) have also been good, solid and well made boards, so I wonder if it is more so just after covid production or other issues that have caused the drop in quality, or similar things.

A new one I stood on the other day did look and feel as usual, good and stiff, no issues with the manufacturing or shape, so I am also wondering where it fits in to the timeline, but I assume it was made more recently.


That said, there have also been a lot of people not so happy with other boards from different woodshops, post covid, so there seemed like there could have been rushed construction / curing times, which then led to quality control issues and other things, including from BBS, so it can't just be put down to one single woodshop having issues.

Whatever the case, it is a curious one and something not limited to just one woodshop, but the mass exodus of established brands from any given woodshop is also an indication of issue going on and trouble for them.

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I always felt like a new PS deck felt the best out of any other woodshop, but they wear out and get soggy so quickly.

I can't confidently say when was the last time I rode a PSStix deck, I think It was a Welcome back when they were on PS. Their current rep decline actually makes me MORE interested

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BrknBrds on August 26, 2022, 12:14:44 PM

Talked to Nick via email the other day from Scumco and he mentioned the decks are now from Controle Canada Pressing.

Anyone have info on these guys? What is the concave and kicks and durability like?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 26, 2022, 02:10:20 PM

Quote from: BrknBrds on August 26, 2022, 12:14:44 PM

Talked to Nick via email the other day from Scumco and he mentioned the decks are now from Control Canada Pressing.

Anyone have info on these guys? What is the concave and kicks and durability like?

They seem like good durable and medium concave decks from all accounts, certainly the ones I have seen.

Link to first page here with pics:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729112#msg3729112


Control (est 1995)
Canada
http://www.controlmfg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/controlmfg/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: billy_the_boarder on August 27, 2022, 05:38:24 AM

I always felt like a new PS deck felt the best out of any other woodshop, but they wear out and get soggy so quickly.
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I rode a Quasi PS deck in Spring and I thought was amazing but it snapped so fast I didn't even get to wear it out. Rode a GX1000 PS deck this past month and while it didn't snap, it was astonishing how fast it was worn to a dud. Probably going to be avoiding PS for a while.

On a related note, curious about how the GX1000 BBS decks are. The PS deck I had from them was stupid flat. No concave - it was not for me. But I love those graphics and I'm a sucker to marketing (the Pablo vid was so sick) so I'd be excited to hear if the BBS GX decks have more concave.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on August 27, 2022, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: billy_the_boarder on August 27, 2022, 05:38:24 AM

I always felt like a new PS deck felt the best out of any other woodshop, but they wear out and get soggy so quickly.

I rode a Quasi PS deck in Spring and I thought was amazing but it snapped so fast I didn't even get to wear it out. Rode a GX1000 PS deck this past month and while it didn't snap, it was astonishing how fast it was worn to a dud. Probably going to be avoiding PS for a while.

On a related note, curious about how the GX1000 BBS decks are. The PS deck I had from them was stupid flat. No concave - it was not for me. But I love those graphics and I'm a sucker to marketing (the Pablo vid was so sick) so I'd be excited to hear if the BBS GX decks have more concave.
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I have a PS GX deck setup now (from an old drop I got on sale). As expected, first session on it was amazing, but if it's anything like the PS Habitat and FA decks I had before, it'll probably let go within a couple weeks. Mine has melllow-medium concave. I didn't know GX moved to BBS. Anyone know when they made the switch?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: somedudefromnj on August 29, 2022, 01:31:49 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on August 27, 2022, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: billy_the_boarder on August 27, 2022, 05:38:24 AM

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I always felt like a new PS deck felt the best out of any other woodshop, but they wear out and get soggy so quickly.

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I rode a Quasi PS deck in Spring and I thought was amazing but it snapped so fast I didn't even get to wear it out. Rode a GX1000 PS deck this past month and while it didn't snap, it was astonishing how fast it was worn to a dud. Probably going to be avoiding PS for a while.

On a related note, curious about how the GX1000 BBS decks are. The PS deck I had from them was stupid flat. No concave - it was not for me. But I love those graphics and I'm a sucker to marketing (the Pablo vid was so sick) so I'd be excited to hear if the BBS GX decks have more concave.

I have a PS GX deck setup now (from an old drop I got on sale). As expected, first session on it was amazing, but if it's anything like the PS Habitat and FA decks I had before, it'll probably let go within a couple weeks. Mine has melllow-medium concave. I didn't know GX moved to BBS. Anyone know when they made the switch?
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I believe it just started with the most recent drop

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 29, 2022, 05:17:41 PM

Yes, only from a week or so ago, as per the post earlier on this page (below).

Was able to check some other places which had the new BBS boards in but still had a lot of the older PS Stix decks too.


Unsure of the future drops, whether or not they are all BBS from now on or some from each woodshop.

Quote from: Phao Lo on August 17, 2022, 11:00:48 AM

Latest run of GX1000 boards appears to be on BBS wood: https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375 (https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/doom-8-375)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 29, 2022, 07:07:36 PM

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I would be stoked to get more images like this of ALL the different woodshops, not just one or two in particular, so if anyone else has some good pics of other woodshops, please post here as well.


From another thread, but excellent pics of the top, bottom and close ups of kicks.

Thank you Murge!


*  Click on the pics for the big image / open in new screen.

Quote from: Murge on August 29, 2022, 04:04:26 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/9Znxg5T/21532-D26-851-A-45-D3-ACE0-18-BD804-A80-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Znxg5T)
(https://i.ibb.co/YBcTGcm/4-F544-B0-F-E660-4-BD6-B374-3-BBBE4109-EA5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YBcTGcm)
(https://i.ibb.co/zZbh6zG/8-E73-A48-A-C570-4437-8-B2-E-54-DFF467-F434.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zZbh6zG)
(https://i.ibb.co/bg5rw99/EBC1371-C-11-F7-4-D02-9-DDB-DE2-EEA0-A54-C8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bg5rw99)
(https://i.ibb.co/y4jFgX9/0871931-C-DCCA-43-D4-BF86-5-C3-E943-BF829.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y4jFgX9)

I couldn’t get a photo of the kicks and concave cause the clear wrap kinda made them hard to see. But let me know if you want a certain pic or anything.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on August 31, 2022, 12:01:01 PM

What wood shop does H-Street use?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 31, 2022, 12:05:44 PM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on August 31, 2022, 12:01:01 PM

What wood shop does H-Street use?

Legend
https://www.instagram.com/legend_skateboards/?hl=en
https://legend94.bigcartel.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on August 31, 2022, 02:11:16 PM

Hey all! First time poster, but longtime lurker of this thread.

Some info on Quasi. I emailed the mothership and asked about PS/BBS. They said they'd be using both woodshops for the foreseeable future and had no intention to switch to BBS completely.

"We don’t ever plan on fully switching. We want to be able to offer both wood shops consistently. There are people who love PS and people who love BBS, so we want to offer both!"

Also, another one for the list. Washington, D.C. local brand Vicio Skateboards get their decks from Pennswood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on September 01, 2022, 08:33:35 AM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on August 18, 2022, 06:14:00 PM

The drilling problems do happen.
I’m not posting this to stir shit up because the companies involved are making things right but sometimes quality control takes a day off :)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jzky14X/4900-AD7-F-7-AAE-4-D4-E-AFD4-5123126-D1-D8-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NLYmvPw)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1xQJ30/1-C58162-D-9-BAF-479-E-8-BF6-CBB7986-B6-B0-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YdFwVqs)

That's a huge bummer.   I had that deck when it first came out and it was one of my favorites of the time.  I had a year starting  summer of '90 where I think 4 of the 6 decks I had were G&S.   Had this deck been released as a daily driver (under  $80) I would have picked one up, but I didn't want to spend the $150 go thrash it.  Big disappointment to see that on a deck this expensive.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 01, 2022, 05:32:13 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 31, 2022, 12:05:44 PM

Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on August 31, 2022, 12:01:01 PM

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What wood shop does H-Street use?

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Legend
https://www.instagram.com/legend_skateboards/?hl=en
https://legend94.bigcartel.com/

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on August 31, 2022, 02:11:16 PM

Hey all! First time poster, but longtime lurker of this thread.

Some info on Quasi. I emailed the mothership and asked about PS/BBS. They said they'd be using both woodshops for the foreseeable future and had no intention to switch to BBS completely.

"We don’t ever plan on fully switching. We want to be able to offer both wood shops consistently. There are people who love PS and people who love BBS, so we want to offer both!"

Also, another one for the list. Washington, D.C. local brand Vicio Skateboards get their decks from Pennswood.

Thanks!!!

Added / corrected the listings for these things.


Always stoked to have more relevant or up to date info on any woodshop or brand.

It all helps anyone else who is wanting more info as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 02, 2022, 10:06:10 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 01, 2022, 05:32:13 PM

Quote from: TwisT on August 31, 2022, 12:05:44 PM

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Quote from: MysticalTypeExperience on August 31, 2022, 12:01:01 PM

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What wood shop does H-Street use?

[close]

Legend
https://www.instagram.com/legend_skateboards/?hl=en
https://legend94.bigcartel.com/

[close]

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on August 31, 2022, 02:11:16 PM

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Hey all! First time poster, but longtime lurker of this thread.

Some info on Quasi. I emailed the mothership and asked about PS/BBS. They said they'd be using both woodshops for the foreseeable future and had no intention to switch to BBS completely.

"We don’t ever plan on fully switching. We want to be able to offer both wood shops consistently. There are people who love PS and people who love BBS, so we want to offer both!"

Also, another one for the list. Washington, D.C. local brand Vicio Skateboards get their decks from Pennswood.

[close]

Thanks!!!

Added / corrected the listings for these things.


Always stoked to have more relevant or up to date info on any woodshop or brand.

It all helps anyone else who is wanting more info as well.

Thank you for putting all of this together!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 04, 2022, 05:56:23 PM

Quote from: manysnakes on September 04, 2022, 05:38:53 AM

Evo/ATS (All Together Skates) shop decks are BBS, and the ATS decks have artwork by skateboarding designer Sasha Barr.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: alraunen on September 06, 2022, 12:09:30 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiLFHwNDw88/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

Sour is distributed by baker boys now, I wonder if they will change HLC for BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 06, 2022, 05:24:10 PM

Quote from: alraunen on September 06, 2022, 12:09:30 PM

Sour is distributed by baker boys now, I wonder if they will change HLC for BBS.

Interesting!!!

For some brands that have more of a license agreement, I could see that happening, so for some countries or distributors, or various parts of the world, local distros do the licensed graphics of a brand on whatever wood they have available, or they have preference of using.

For others like Theories of Atlantis distro, they had three or four different woodshops for the different brands that were under their distribution if I can remember, besides their own brands on BBS, then Clutch and then BBS again, there was Studio on Control and Evisen on Dwindle.


Could go either way really, but I think they would be more likely to keep their existing production line for that one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 07, 2022, 11:23:45 PM

Sometimes when you stumble across something pretty cool, it is interesting to see and share.

Not sure how many boards he has made, but even if this guy presses boards only occasionally and cuts out cool shapes from uncut blanks, it is pretty rad.


https://www.instagram.com/ory_skateboards/

ory skateboards
skateboards' shaper from Nantes, France
Fabrication artisanale de Skateboards, Nantes
DM pour infos
#homemadeskateboards #handmadeskateboard



https://www.instagram.com/p/CdgUt3jMr71/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYo1ddEsgG4/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on September 08, 2022, 07:33:25 AM

Just messaged Highwater Skateboards out of New England because I noticed they weren't on the list.  They very promptly let me know that they use South Central wood.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch3CpzhJt-R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch3CpzhJt-R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Looks like they use Dylan Goldberger pretty much exclusively for graphics.
https://www.instagram.com/dylanjg/ (https://www.instagram.com/dylanjg/)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 08, 2022, 07:43:28 AM

Thanks!


They are amazing graphics from that guy.

Not often I think I would get a board just for the graphic to put on a wall, but these are definitely up there.

Just hard to choose one post to put up here, but this will be a good start.  Check out the rest of his pics if you have a minute, as they are worth it.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CgfVrPJJbOx/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on September 08, 2022, 07:48:49 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 08, 2022, 07:43:28 AM

Thanks!


They are amazing graphics from that guy.

Not often I think I would get a board just for the graphic to put on a wall, but these are definitely up there.

Just hard to choose one post to put up here, but this will be a good start.  Check out the rest of his pics if you have a minute, as they are worth it.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CgfVrPJJbOx/

Oh yeah I'm familiar with him and enjoy his work as well, really liked the run he did with Coda.  Also stoked that Highwater uses South Central because I like their wood too.  Don't get their boards around my area but they pop up on Parade alot.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 08, 2022, 08:00:06 AM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on September 08, 2022, 07:48:49 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 08, 2022, 07:43:28 AM

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Thanks!


They are amazing graphics from that guy.

Not often I think I would get a board just for the graphic to put on a wall, but these are definitely up there.

Just hard to choose one post to put up here, but this will be a good start.  Check out the rest of his pics if you have a minute, as they are worth it.

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Oh yeah I'm familiar with him and enjoy his work as well, really liked the run he did with Coda.  Also stoked that Highwater uses South Central because I like their wood too.  Don't get their boards around my area but they pop up on Parade alot.

Maybe I had seen the Coda boards before, but it definitely stands out (how good they all are).

A few other graphics he has done all could go on a wall very easily too.  Probably a good thing I don't have access to any of those boards, but at least I can see all the pictures and enjoy them like that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on September 08, 2022, 08:38:04 AM

Hey @Woodshop

HLC press boards for Rassvet
And Plan B should now be HLC worldwide (not only boards for Europe)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bror on September 08, 2022, 09:52:24 AM

Welcome boards still on bbs?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on September 08, 2022, 11:48:05 AM

Quote from: Bror on September 08, 2022, 09:52:24 AM

Welcome boards still on bbs?

I just got the new Nora and it is BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 08, 2022, 06:04:51 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on September 08, 2022, 08:38:04 AM

Hey @Woodshop

HLC press boards for Rassvet
And Plan B should now be HLC worldwide (not only boards for Europe)

Thanks for the update - always appreciated.


Added / changed that on the main listings now.

I recall somewhere people asking about Rassvet and someone also questioned the name Paccbet, guessing the translation and letters from the RU / Cyrillic alphabet, so I added the listing like this:

Rassvet Paccbet   ……….   ……….   HLC

If it should just be one or the other, or something else, please let me know.  Some other listings I have both in there, such as DOA and D.O.A. as it has caused confusion before when people have searched specific words.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CSEPKDZtHOW/

 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Radim on September 09, 2022, 01:32:45 PM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on August 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM

I really enjoyed this Joey Pepper Politic deck, but since riding it my board favored turning in one direction HARD. I assumed it was the bushings and kept skating it. Turns out the holes were drilled over 1/4 of an inch off and at an angle. This is my first South Central deck, I've only boughten DLX decks. Is this a common issue with South Central? The shape and wood were really nice... I would have loved to skate it more, but now that I know it's the issue, I've swapped it out.

(https://i.imgur.com/rx92hvdh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6MlX9oh.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/kw6Vff7h.png?1)

I had experinced off drilled holes on the tail side of my 5Boro Nohara. Shape great, wood stiff , Light,  deck hold its pop. However wood seemed a bit overdryed like DSM zeros, and I experienced nose chipping. Compared to DSM pop lasted longer.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on September 09, 2022, 11:01:29 PM

Anyone know what woodshop Blast is using now that Gnosis is gone?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 10, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Quote from: Roisto on September 09, 2022, 11:01:29 PM

Anyone know what woodshop Blast is using now that Gnosis is gone?

I had a look through posts since Feb 22 and this one says they went in to visit the guys at Quarter Dist, so maybe they have gone with them for now or for good. Quarter Dist have them on their brands list, so most likely using Quarter for wood and distribution which should get them a little more coverage too.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdLEFUdoBnK/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiPqgDFMdbX/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 10, 2022, 07:07:35 AM

The other one on the Gnosis list I had was Clown Skateboards, so after checking, they are now through Mind Dist, which uses Clutch wood.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbiILU1MV5v/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbh5YK5seti/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on September 10, 2022, 11:34:20 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 10, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Quote from: Roisto on September 09, 2022, 11:01:29 PM

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Anyone know what woodshop Blast is using now that Gnosis is gone?

[close]

I had a look through posts since Feb 22 and this one says they went in to visit the guys at Quarter Dist, so maybe they have gone with them for now or for good. Quarter Dist have them on their brands list, so most likely using Quarter for wood and distribution which should get them a little more coverage too.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CdLEFUdoBnK/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiPqgDFMdbX/

Cheers. Can’t say I’ve ever heard of Quarter Distribution before or most of their brands. Never skated a board from them. Based on their website it seems that they import blank decks from China and then print them in Germany.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on September 10, 2022, 06:33:00 PM

Hey @Woodshop highwater skateboards are pressed by south central.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 10, 2022, 07:24:05 PM

Quote from: Roisto on September 10, 2022, 11:34:20 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 10, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

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Quote from: Roisto on September 09, 2022, 11:01:29 PM

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Anyone know what woodshop Blast is using now that Gnosis is gone?

[close]

I had a look through posts since Feb 22 and this one says they went in to visit the guys at Quarter Dist, so maybe they have gone with them for now or for good. Quarter Dist have them on their brands list, so most likely using Quarter for wood and distribution which should get them a little more coverage too.

[close]

Cheers. Can’t say I’ve ever heard of Quarter Distribution before or most of their brands. Never skated a board from them. Based on their website it seems that they import blank decks from China and then print them in Germany.

Yeah it was a curious one, but like other distribution business models I am familiar with here in AU, they bring in blanks from somewhere (China or other) and then print whatever people want on them, usually catering to smaller DIY type brands that have low minimums and can do some boards here and some there, as well as shop boards, or even some more well known brands.

It would be a big plus for them to get something like Blast as a brand, as they have such a good following and lots of people want their boards, as well as Blast having better distribution through that business, compared to someone just doing it themselves from their home.

Either way some of those new board shapes (like the one posted in the 9+ boards thread) look pretty damn good, so it would be interesting if anyone has tried them, to get back with their thoughts on the wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 10, 2022, 07:30:26 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on September 10, 2022, 06:33:00 PM

Hey @Woodshop highwater skateboards are pressed by south central.

Too distracted by the rad graphics!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:38:14 AM

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Everything should be updated now with all relevant info.

I have still a lot of pics and the old threads to go through to get more of the board pics up on the first page though.

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on September 10, 2022, 06:33:00 PM

Hey @Woodshop highwater skateboards are pressed by south central.

Forgot to say thanks earlier too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on September 12, 2022, 09:33:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:38:14 AM

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Everything should be updated now with all relevant info.

I have still a lot of pics and the old threads to go through to get more of the board pics up on the first page though.

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on September 10, 2022, 06:33:00 PM

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Hey @Woodshop highwater skateboards are pressed by south central.

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Forgot to say thanks earlier too.

No problem, happy to contribute!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 12, 2022, 11:34:29 AM

Do all Alien workshop and habitat 8.25 decks have the same measurements?

And how do I know if it’s bbs or a dwindle one in Europe ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:32:39 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on September 12, 2022, 11:34:29 AM

Do all Alien workshop and habitat 8.25 decks have the same measurements?

And how do I know if it’s bbs or a dwindle one in Europe ?

Maybe more so just from the pandemic times, but I think all AWS and Habitat boards now are BBS and have been for a year or so, as they had upped production and doing worldwide distribution now, from what others were saying.


The BBS boards usually have "Made in Mexico" on the sticker and the other ones have "Made in China" or at least any I have seen are like that.

If you are unable to go into a shop, the best thing to do is call or message them and ask if they have a "Made in" sticker.


As for size, I think the BBS boards, as per their website, were all that width x 32.25 with 14.2 wb or so.  They have long squared or blunt shaped kicks on all their boards now.


https://www.alienworkshop.com/


https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/dot-wave-8-25


Click for bigger image

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/holiday_21_layers_0001_Background_copy_7.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:50:08 PM

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I found this interesting to see, regarding different woodshops being used for the same brand, as per posts in the Setup thread.

To make it easier I separated the quotes so the text is all the same size.


As mentioned a dot or dimple in the wood is not so much the indication of which woodshop as anyone can stamp a board, but between the concave and more so the "Made in" sticker with where ever it came from being the easiest way to determine the woodshop.

Thanks to those guys for this info too.

Quote from: spicysk8rboi on September 09, 2022, 06:17:19 PM

Primitive 8.38 (sticker said made in China but top ply has bbs dimple)

Quote from: manysnakes on September 10, 2022, 11:03:40 AM

I ordered two Primitive decks from their two-for-$80 sale and both of mine are like this. Sticker says “China” but has what I understood to be the BBS dimple. For legal reasons, the sticker is more likely to be correct than the dimple guesswork assembled on Slap, so I assume that more than one manufacturer puts a dimple on their boards. Either way I absolutely love that deck.

Quote from: nitro89 on September 12, 2022, 02:09:20 AM

ive had a couple primitives this year, had this same deck actually. same dimple, same 'made in china' label and it sogged out within a week. so i assumed it was sub par chinese board. i was gutted as i really liked the shape. the bbs was also an 8.38 but the dims on the sticker were different to the chinese one. primitive are really hit and miss in the uk atm. there are some bbs floating around but alot of these china mades too same as toy machine, zero etc. too much of a risk/hassle to mail order. went back to crail decks as i know what im getting.

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on September 12, 2022, 03:56:41 AM

Curious if those boards have similar concave, or different concave, eg BBS has spoon like concave, especially in the kicks, but the other boards are usually much more flat on the kicks, same as most other woodshops on the market.

Also are you guys meaning a dimple as in a blunt instrument dot (BBS usually has about a 3mm wide dot) or more a nail mark in the wood?

Not a worry any which way, but it is interesting to me, given I am not about to see any of those boards in person, but am quite familiar with the different concaves, board markings, etc, as per the first page on the woodshop thread.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0


Specific BBS pics


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729106#msg3729106


Thanks.

Quote from: nitro89 on September 12, 2022, 04:46:01 AM

i found the chinese primitive was hella flat, both the concave and the kicks completely different to the bbs primitive i had. the dot looked as if someone had pushed a dot punch into the top ply between the bolt holes (more likely to be a machine made when lifting off the drill press tho.)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 13, 2022, 04:58:24 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:32:39 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on September 12, 2022, 11:34:29 AM

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Do all Alien workshop and habitat 8.25 decks have the same measurements?

And how do I know if it’s bbs or a dwindle one in Europe ?

[close]

Maybe more so just from the pandemic times, but I think all AWS and Habitat boards now are BBS and have been for a year or so, as they had upped production and doing worldwide distribution now, from what others were saying.


The BBS boards usually have "Made in Mexico" on the sticker and the other ones have "Made in China" or at least any I have seen are like that.

If you are unable to go into a shop, the best thing to do is call or message them and ask if they have a "Made in" sticker.


As for size, I think the BBS boards, as per their website, were all that width x 32.25 with 14.2 wb or so.  They have long squared or blunt shaped kicks on all their boards now.


https://www.alienworkshop.com/


https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/dot-wave-8-25


Click for bigger image

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0971/5072/products/holiday_21_layers_0001_Background_copy_7.jpg)

Thank you!
I will stick to 8.25 alien workshop decks now. Don’t want to switch shapes anymore.

I hope they will make more graphics in the future.


Habitat is the same shape too, right ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 13, 2022, 08:52:07 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on September 13, 2022, 04:58:24 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 12, 2022, 04:32:39 PM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on September 12, 2022, 11:34:29 AM

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Do all Alien workshop and habitat 8.25 decks have the same measurements?

And how do I know if it’s bbs or a dwindle one in Europe ?

[close]

Maybe more so just from the pandemic times, but I think all AWS and Habitat boards now are BBS and have been for a year or so, as they had upped production and doing worldwide distribution now, from what others were saying.


The BBS boards usually have "Made in Mexico" on the sticker and the other ones have "Made in China" or at least any I have seen are like that.

If you are unable to go into a shop, the best thing to do is call or message them and ask if they have a "Made in" sticker.


As for size, I think the BBS boards, as per their website, were all that width x 32.25 with 14.2 wb or so.  They have long squared or blunt shaped kicks on all their boards now.


https://www.alienworkshop.com/


https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/dot-wave-8-25


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Thank you!
I will stick to 8.25 alien workshop decks now. Don’t want to switch shapes anymore.

I hope they will make more graphics in the future.


Habitat is the same shape too, right ?

yeah, sounds like the shape suciu rides. which I had a while back.
 (https://i.imgur.com/OmQC91jl.jpg)

It's probably safe to assume metal, will probably run that shape too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 13, 2022, 09:10:42 AM

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Do all Alien workshop and habitat 8.25 decks have the same measurements?

And how do I know if it’s bbs or a dwindle one in Europe ?

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Maybe more so just from the pandemic times, but I think all AWS and Habitat boards now are BBS and have been for a year or so, as they had upped production and doing worldwide distribution now, from what others were saying.


The BBS boards usually have "Made in Mexico" on the sticker and the other ones have "Made in China" or at least any I have seen are like that.

If you are unable to go into a shop, the best thing to do is call or message them and ask if they have a "Made in" sticker.


As for size, I think the BBS boards, as per their website, were all that width x 32.25 with 14.2 wb or so.  They have long squared or blunt shaped kicks on all their boards now.


https://www.alienworkshop.com/


https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/dot-wave-8-25


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Thank you!
I will stick to 8.25 alien workshop decks now. Don’t want to switch shapes anymore.

I hope they will make more graphics in the future.


Habitat is the same shape too, right ?

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yeah, sounds like the shape suciu rides. which I had a while back.
 (https://i.imgur.com/OmQC91jl.jpg)

It's probably safe to assume metal, will probably run that shape too.

I can't speak to the 8.25, but the 8.5 Fred Gall deck from Metal is pretty close to what you'd find on an FA/Hockey deck. Nice fat shovel nose. Not sure about the BA or other Metal decks out right now since Fred's was inspired by a previous shovel nose deck he rode.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 14, 2022, 06:00:40 PM

Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 14, 2022, 06:20:28 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 14, 2022, 06:00:40 PM

Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

This post has (fire) comment from Control, so maybe they are using Control wood.

That would make sense, CA location, and other info, so keeping it local.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CeO0oDKlcaR/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on September 14, 2022, 11:08:36 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 14, 2022, 06:00:40 PM

Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

they are made in edmonton alberta at OSM owned by randy jespersen http://www.osm-inc.ca/ https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/

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Post by: Woodshop on September 15, 2022, 01:07:13 AM

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they are made in edmonton alberta at OSM owned by randy jespersen

http://www.osm-inc.ca/
https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/

That's rad - didn't know about that woodshop, so will add it to the list, as well as the Pylon brand too.

Thanks!

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Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 15, 2022, 07:22:13 AM

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they are made in edmonton alberta at OSM owned by randy jespersen http://www.osm-inc.ca/ https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/

Thank you!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 21, 2022, 05:50:11 PM

So BBS now does 2 sets of generic shapes:

The "old" generics were mostly used by companies such as Pass~Port, Magenta, Alltimers, etc. they scale in WB after 8.25, which is 14.25, 8.38 has 14.38, 8.5 is 14.5 and so on.

The "new" generics are used by Krooked for a few generic team decks, specifically the 8.5x14.38 shape, which is also used by Limosine, some Frog decks, and now Sci-Fi Fantasy's recent drop. It's also confusing because these companies also use the old shapes. The 8.25 in these new shapes is often 14.12 and there's also a 14" version too. Makes it way more confusing if you're ordering online. The Sci-Fi drop are all mislabeled on the stickers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on September 21, 2022, 10:46:37 PM

Happy to hear the wheelbases are shrinking…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 23, 2022, 03:36:13 PM

I had the chance to get into a couple of shops yesterday to see some more boards, stand on a lot and feel out the concave of some I had not seen in person until now.


Heroin 8.38 is the same as the other Baker, Birdhouse, Element, DLX and DGK in that it is 32.2 with 14.5 wb.  There was a green eagle there and it lined up perfectly.

The China made UMA decks were actually a much closer concave to BBS than anything else I have seen, with the more spoon like kicks, vs the flat faced kicks as per most woodshops.  Besides the "Made in China" sticker, they had the laser etched info over the front bolts area, same as quite a few other boards from that woodshop, which ever one it is, all dimensions listed in a medium sized font.

One Magenta (BBS) 8.5 I saw is indeed smaller in length and wheelbase than other standard 8.5 BBS boards, so about 31.8 and 14.38 wb, shorter than the Passport normal 8.5 which is over 32 and 14.5 wb on one I have, same as Baker, Element, Birdhouse, etc.  These haven't changed at all and have had the two different sizes for a while, as per older catalogs I rechecked.

The China made Birdhouse decks were interesting to see and stand on.  Even seemed like there were two options in those as well, one being all natural with generic logos and the others with stained tops and bottoms with the same graphics as the pro BBS made boards, which could be a bit confusing for some people, but easy enough as the warning sticker has "Made in Mexico" on the BBS boards.

The China made 8.38 is a lot more rounded off looking and just over 32 with a 14.38 wb, compared to the BBS one which is 14.5 wb and a bit more pointy in the kicks, especially the tail.  Concave is more comparable to Dwindle too, nothing like BBS spoon shaped concave.


There were two other notable differences with some boards, both local brands that I am not going to post here, but the wood from one was so flat in the concave and low in the angle of the tail it was almost like a broken board in that regard, which was weird.  I don't recall standing on or feeling that woodshop before, but it seemed to be more on the lower end of the quality scale.


DLX has had three regular 8.5 shapes for as long as I can remember, so nothing new in that department.  Maybe some people just haven't seen them for a minute, but they have always been around.  When I was riding smaller boards like the 8.125 black eagle, the normal 8.5 with 14.38 wb felt so damn big when I set one up ten or more years ago, so I went with the blue eagle on the short version at the time for a bigger board I sometimes skated.  Now I think the normal one feels way more comfortable than the short version, but I have also had quite a few of the long 8.5 board, which vert and big bowl dudes liked a whole lot, with the much longer wheelbase.

DLX 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (short and tapers a lot from front to back)

DLX 8.5 x 32.2 with 14.38 wb (normal and stays true right through the rail with more pointy kicks)

DLX 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb (long stays true through the rail with regular popsicle kicks)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 23, 2022, 07:16:21 PM

Quote from: LebowskisRug on September 21, 2022, 05:50:11 PM

So BBS now does 2 sets of generic shapes:

The "old" generics were mostly used by companies such as Pass~Port, Magenta, Alltimers, etc. they scale in WB after 8.25, which is 14.25, 8.38 has 14.38, 8.5 is 14.5 and so on.

The "new" generics are used by Krooked for a few generic team decks, specifically the 8.5x14.38 shape, which is also used by Limosine, some Frog decks, and now Sci-Fi Fantasy's recent drop. It's also confusing because these companies also use the old shapes. The 8.25 in these new shapes is often 14.12 and there's also a 14" version too. Makes it way more confusing if you're ordering online. The Sci-Fi drop are all mislabeled on the stickers.

Thanks for sharing this. I wonder if the "old generics" are slowly being phased out for the new ones. If not, it's gonna be a shit show trying to get consistent shapes unless you go to a shop with a tape measure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 25, 2022, 01:47:57 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 23, 2022, 07:16:21 PM

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So BBS now does 2 sets of generic shapes:

The "old" generics were mostly used by companies such as Pass~Port, Magenta, Alltimers, etc. they scale in WB after 8.25, which is 14.25, 8.38 has 14.38, 8.5 is 14.5 and so on.

The "new" generics are used by Krooked for a few generic team decks, specifically the 8.5x14.38 shape, which is also used by Limosine, some Frog decks, and now Sci-Fi Fantasy's recent drop. It's also confusing because these companies also use the old shapes. The 8.25 in these new shapes is often 14.12 and there's also a 14" version too. Makes it way more confusing if you're ordering online. The Sci-Fi drop are all mislabeled on the stickers.

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Thanks for sharing this. I wonder if the "old generics" are slowly being phased out for the new ones. If not, it's gonna be a shit show trying to get consistent shapes unless you go to a shop with a tape measure.

The brands that give full listings of their dimensions, along with the shops that actually measure their boards (correctly) definitely make things a whole lot easier.

Having someone just read specs from a sheet and add them into board listings can often be hit or miss, along with some brands that even seem to get their own dimensions wrong when they publish them, but any which way, at least checking yourself is always the safest way if you are going somewhere.

I often find boards first that I know are specific dimensions and then compare them to other boards I am looking at that I am not sure of, which is in some ways easier than pulling out a tape measure, but even in that regard, nothing is stopping anyone from doing that.

That might be the safest thing to do if you are after a very specific size, dimensions or whatever, but usually standing on a board is the best way to make sure.  If it feels good to stand on, there is much less likelihood of it being a board you don't want to ride, compared to something you stand on and just put straight back on the shelf.  Done that quite a few times to boards I thought would have been really good over the years.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: arrbee on September 26, 2022, 05:43:16 PM

Are Sci Fi shapes close to the FA/Hockey/Quasi?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on September 26, 2022, 06:59:28 PM

Quote from: arrbee on September 26, 2022, 05:43:16 PM

Are Sci Fi shapes close to the FA/Hockey/Quasi?

No, they are a standard BBS mold similar to a DLX deck with semi-tapered kicks. The wheelbase is shorter than DLX shapes which is a nice change up.

If you want a similar nose / tail without the crazy steepness of FA / Hockey, check out AWS or Habitat.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: doublesteveburger on September 29, 2022, 10:28:18 AM

 anyone know what wood ScumCo uses?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on September 29, 2022, 11:05:06 AM

Quote from: doublesteveburger on September 29, 2022, 10:28:18 AM

anyone know what wood ScumCo uses?

Control for most, but they've recently released some from bbs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: saltusnaut on September 29, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

Hearing rumors Sour is changing from hcl to bbs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 29, 2022, 05:25:39 PM

Quote from: saltusnaut on September 29, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

Hearing rumors Sour is changing from hcl to bbs

Sour US is under baker now, so yeah, the new boards will be bbs

Euro sour however who knows.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 30, 2022, 02:06:25 AM

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Curious to hear more as to any other things with them, along with some other brands that might be using HLC for just Europe or worldwide now.


Looks like I need to update the list a bit for HLC brands, as it is one of the woodshops I really don't know anything about, besides what I have seen from their site and associated pages.


Their instagram had this list (first ones with - before I had, but the second list I didn't have at all.

https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/


- Jart
- Sk8Mafia
- Plan B
- Sovrn
- Flip
- Cruzade

Player
Mosaic
Long Island
Elixir
Aloiki
Iron
YOW


This was the list I had for HLC brands on the first page:


Cruzade
Element* (EU)
Flip* (Europe)
Habitat* (Europe) -2020
Isle* (EU)
Jart
Plan B* (worldwide) 2021+
Rassvet Paccbet (RU)
Robotron
Sk8Mafia* (Europe)
Skateboard Café
Sour
SOVRN* (Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: saltusnaut on September 30, 2022, 11:00:32 AM

I for one am pleased to hear they are going bbs. I would love to support them but despise hlc decks. Hlc decks feels stiff and dead to me

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 02, 2022, 04:38:42 PM

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I don't really get on instagram a whole lot to browse, but this post from the Blanks thread is pretty good, as are some of the other Pennswood posts with their unique graphics.

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on October 02, 2022, 01:33:54 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjOXly1pPQ1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CjOXly1pPQ1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Pennswood is doing this new spinning paint drip method.  Not sure if they count as blank but the hydro dipped ones were pretty popular a while back so figured I’d share.

This one too:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CiTw5OMsi_N/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 05, 2022, 06:30:52 PM

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Not sure how I missed adding the info here, as discussed in other threads like the WBSWB Thread a while back, but Tired Skateboards are now on BBS, as per these pics from Off and more info from others in the Egg Thread too.

Quote from: off on October 04, 2022, 03:33:44 PM

tired “1989” shape
9.225/32.0/14.0
(https://i.ibb.co/VTWT6mT/73-CEE402-0933-4-C1-C-A1-EB-31772-AD58-CC1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kXgXZ1X)
(https://i.ibb.co/SJWYwWs/433580-F9-D4-DE-45-FA-8-BEC-C0-BC75-E2-C421.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25mV3mn)

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Being a taller guy you might enjoy the longer wheelbases of the Cardiel (snuff & Huffer) decks.

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Yes, decks with longer wheelbases are my priority but also I want a shape I like. If somebody knows how is the wood of Tired Skateboards let me know, please. I've not found any info online. Thank you!

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Tired are BBS as far as I’m aware, I’m skating one of the 9.125 egg shaped decks at the moment (I think it’s the “Chuck” shape) and been really enjoying it. All of the shaped Tired decks I’ve seen have super mellow kicks/concave and most if not all have a 14”WB I believe (may be wrong but I think that’s the case), so maybe keep that in mind if you were thinking of grabbing one

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rad if true. if you have any info to back that BBS mfg info up, drop it in the woodshop thread b/c i think the tired info is wicked out of date.

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Just had a quick look at the Tired decks we’ve got in stock to compare to other BBS brands and the Tired decks have the exact same warning sticker as the FA decks we’ve got in (the FAs have the wee hologram sticker on em too so definitely BBS) as well as some other brands. The one I’m skating also had the circular puncture between the top bolts and defo feels like the other BBS decks I’ve skated recently so I’m fairly sure, will try to remember to post in the woodshop thread when I’m home tonight!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 06, 2022, 05:44:24 PM

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I came across another wholesale board supplier the other day, "Perfect Skateboard MFG" who are most likely getting wood from somewhere like BBS or Clutch, but not confirmed.

Been around for a minute now, first post late 2021, for Perfect Skateboards, then June 2022 under the MFG account.

From the web site:

Located in Escondido,California

First time order will have no Setup Fees, Then $150 per graphic size run

Turnaround time is 3 weeks

Minimum order quantity is 50 decks


https://www.instagram.com/perfectskateboardmfg_/

https://perfectskateboardmfg.com/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CivrAhlPuqU/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiTMjcjP1C0/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CiDgC15JopV/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 06, 2022, 05:55:14 PM

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They seemed pretty keen for more accounts, so anyone wanting a run of boards could get in there quickly and easily enough it seems.

I also saw they were printing H Street boards there, so who knows which other brands they have printed boards for, big or small.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 06, 2022, 06:00:47 PM

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Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

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This post has (fire) comment from Control, so maybe they are using Control wood.

That would make sense, CA location, and other info, so keeping it local.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CeO0oDKlcaR/

Thanks for that info! Didn't see that Instagram post.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 06, 2022, 06:16:00 PM

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Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

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Thanks for that info! Didn't see that Instagram post.

No worries.

It was confirmed they are using OSM for wood, just in case that wasn't clear too.

I had to double check I had that in the main list, but it is in there now.


OSM
Canada
http://www.osm-inc.ca/
https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/

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Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 06, 2022, 06:18:44 PM

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Anyone know where Pylon gets their boards made? Their Instagram says Canadian Made, but no mention of a woodshop.

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Thanks for that info! Didn't see that Instagram post.

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No worries.

It was confirmed they are using OSM for wood, just in case that wasn't clear too.

I had to double check I had that in the main list, but it is in there now.


OSM
Canada
http://www.osm-inc.ca/
https://www.instagram.com/oliveboards/

Thanks, again. I actually thought that was new post that I quoted and realize now it's from September. So appreciate the clarification!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 07, 2022, 12:20:42 PM

I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 07, 2022, 12:26:07 PM

Quote from: Badandoldskater on October 07, 2022, 12:20:42 PM

I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0)
Here is the info about it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 07, 2022, 01:06:28 PM

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I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0)
Here is the info about it.

Appreciate finding the thread for me but the boards last year were pressed in Boston vs now being made in maine. Just curious

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 07, 2022, 04:45:50 PM

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I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0)
Here is the info about it.

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Appreciate finding the thread for me but the boards last year were pressed in Boston vs now being made in maine. Just curious

I would usually say go in to the shop, stand on the board to feel the concave and if it is to your liking, buy it.  While there, someone might know and tell you as well, but I also know it is often not as easy as that.


Not much help I know (sorry) but I had a look through the woodshop list and there are a few I don't know where they are based, so could be from one of them, but someone else might be of more help - given I have never travelled outside of Australia, so don't really know much besides what I can see on google maps.


Maybe Legend?   I just don't know.


The board photos are always better than production images, so it is nice to see a spread of the actual boards too.



https://orchardshop.com/collections/orchard/products/orchard-woodland-mingyan-deck-assorted-stains-8-5


Assorted top and bottom stain colors on all decks.  We can not guarantee background color, but if you have a preference please let us know in the order notes!

Manufactured in Maine, USA

Width: 8.5”
Wheelbase: 14.25"
Length: 31.75"

Medium concave & slightly steeper nose and tail.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0127/1812/products/mingyan-deck-spread_5000x.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 07, 2022, 10:17:14 PM

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I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0)
Here is the info about it.

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Appreciate finding the thread for me but the boards last year were pressed in Boston vs now being made in maine. Just curious

Ah gotcha, I didn’t read very closely.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 08, 2022, 01:15:29 AM

do ps stix have shape codes/etc or would i need to look for the same dims on other boards and hope its the same shape? been skating a wknd kleppan 8.5 for a week or two and really like it, fuller nose with a bit of a flatter squared tail but i'm not sure how often the shape is used. only other time i've seen it was on the nasa habitat boards a few years ago. dims are:

Width: 8.5". Length: 32.125". Wheelbase: 14.25". Nose: 7.125". Tail: 6.75".

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 08, 2022, 08:53:53 AM

Quote from: cosmicgypsies on October 08, 2022, 01:15:29 AM

do ps stix have shape codes/etc or would i need to look for the same dims on other boards and hope its the same shape? been skating a wknd kleppan 8.5 for a week or two and really like it, fuller nose with a bit of a flatter squared tail but i'm not sure how often the shape is used. only other time i've seen it was on the nasa habitat boards a few years ago. dims are:

Width: 8.5". Length: 32.125". Wheelbase: 14.25". Nose: 7.125". Tail: 6.75".

Re PS Stix, their serial number info is the batch and board numbers, not really a guide to the shape and size, so that is not going to help finding more of those unless you have some contact at PS Stix to look it up for you.

Re WKND as a brand, I know they had a pretty cool shape guide from a while back that was good to use to find whatever boards they had, but I don't know how accurate it still is or if that has changed again now.

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/


I see they still have the shape guide when you go into the board listings, so the one you want is the plain 8.5 not the 8.5MP or 8.5TH but I recall someone saying some of those shapes are not accurate either, when you look at the listings.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1014/3147/products/MARCH-2022-BOARD-SIZE-GUIDE-01_58cfffe7-e44a-4359-a5be-efb7a9ace1e3_2048x2048.jpg

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1014/3147/products/MARCH-2022-BOARD-SIZE-GUIDE-01_58cfffe7-e44a-4359-a5be-efb7a9ace1e3_2048x2048.jpg)


Guessing at least that is a standard shape for any WKND board, of which there are a few from that current list in the same shape:

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/search?q=8.5


Maybe go by the graphic and check local stores to compare dimensions of these at least:


https://shop.wkndbrand.com/products/b-w-brick-logo-8-25va-8-375nh-8-5-9-0

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/paseo-palmera-andrew-considine-8-25cs-8-375-8-5

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/streets-alex-schmidt-8-25va-8-5-8-6

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/flagpole-andrew-considine-8-25cs-8-375-8-5

https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/dj-water-8-0-8-125-8-25ct-8-5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 08, 2022, 08:57:02 AM

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Did anyone else see this?

Doesn't matter if you laughed, or cried, or just stared, Gleaming the Cube was a pretty epic movie for the time, complete with inaccuracies and stupid stuff only skateboarders would notice, but I still thought it was worth posting.


Silver dipped --> 9.875” x 31.625” w/ 14.75” WB
In Shops or WKNDBRAND.com


https://shop.wkndbrand.com/collections/wknd-decks/products/gleaming-the-cube-9-875


https://www.instagram.com/p/ChYXR4opHnE/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 09, 2022, 04:23:27 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on October 07, 2022, 10:17:14 PM

Quote from: Badandoldskater on October 07, 2022, 01:06:28 PM

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Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on October 07, 2022, 12:26:07 PM

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Quote from: Badandoldskater on October 07, 2022, 12:20:42 PM

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I see that orchard skate shop has a few decks being made in the state in Maine. Anyone know where or by who? Would love to purchase and support a Maine product Thanks

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114587.0)
Here is the info about it.

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Appreciate finding the thread for me but the boards last year were pressed in Boston vs now being made in maine. Just curious

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Ah gotcha, I didn’t read very closely.

Some more info has come to light about those boards.

I added the listing to the woodshop main page as well.


Cousineau Wood Products
Maine, USA
https://www.cwp-usa.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cwpusa/

They are a woodshop that makes all sorts of things, with what seems like only a few posts about skateboard decks from 2018, but lots about other things like knife handles, various forms of board, sheeting, tools, etc.


I think you might find this link interesting (especially the board pics):


https://www.cwp-usa.com/products/skateboard-deck-seconds


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0896/0614/products/IMG_7736_fba540da-5fed-4dba-b678-a464e997126a_1024x1024.jpg)



https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwp1KMyA6KO/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 09, 2022, 05:20:28 PM

Woodshop you are the best.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 09, 2022, 05:30:09 PM

Quote from: Badandoldskater on October 09, 2022, 05:20:28 PM

Woodshop you are the best.

To be fair, I have a lot of help with information.

Thanks go to any and every person who has helped with all the info compiled in this thread, as well as those who ask the questions too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on October 09, 2022, 06:35:05 PM

Just saw on the Dogtown site that some of their pops are now BBS.  Kind of interesting since they have been PS as long as I can remember. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 11, 2022, 05:35:14 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 09, 2022, 05:30:09 PM

Quote from: Badandoldskater on October 09, 2022, 05:20:28 PM

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Woodshop you are the best.

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To be fair, I have a lot of help with information.

Thanks go to any and every person who has helped with all the info compiled in this thread, as well as those who ask the questions too.

The woodshop in Maine are using the old Chapman molds

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 13, 2022, 04:14:22 PM

Quote from: Thom on October 09, 2022, 01:47:55 PM

My homie made me a board

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZFvWRH/CC369730-D51-C-4-DB3-A2-AD-5-B141-DF82-AEB.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q9LTWvq/E35948-DE-9145-4-F59-86-AE-D953-E4-B2909-C.jpg)

Junkwood 9.0 double shovel
USA 159
1/4 riser
WD 1 1/4”
Lil jawns
Speedlab 58
Big balls
Mob

He’s on Instagram at @junkwoodjoe if anyone wants to check it out

So good!!!

Also adding this here, as they look like a good lineup.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CjbXWXSvH-N/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2022, 02:50:24 PM

Any decks similar to quasi, GX, wknd shape that are not that expensive?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 15, 2022, 04:51:18 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2022, 02:50:24 PM

Any decks similar to quasi, GX, wknd shape that are not that expensive?

Maybe an AWS deck? I honestly don’t know I’d they’re any cheaper than Quasi/GX/WKND, but they’re a similar shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 07:24:48 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on October 15, 2022, 04:51:18 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 15, 2022, 02:50:24 PM

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Any decks similar to quasi, GX, wknd shape that are not that expensive?

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Maybe an AWS deck? I honestly don’t know I’d they’re any cheaper than Quasi/GX/WKND, but they’re a similar shape.

+1 to AWS and Habitat. I see them on sale way more often too

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 07:26:07 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on October 09, 2022, 06:35:05 PM

Just saw on the Dogtown site that some of their pops are now BBS.  Kind of interesting since they have been PS as long as I can remember.

Seems like more and more brands are moving to BBS. Anyone know why? It seems like they've begun to dominate as of late.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 16, 2022, 06:06:26 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 07:26:07 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on October 09, 2022, 06:35:05 PM

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Just saw on the Dogtown site that some of their pops are now BBS.  Kind of interesting since they have been PS as long as I can remember.

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Seems like more and more brands are moving to BBS. Anyone know why? It seems like they've begun to dominate as of late.

What goes on behind the scenes, anyone can guess, but the most common reason brands change woodshops or even start looking is if they are unhappy with the current supplier for whatever reason, or unable to get what they want through the current supplier.


This did remind me to go and check, so from a quick look, it is interesting that they clearly show which woodshop their boards come from, as well as listing dimensions which I am always a fan of - details help.


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/dogtown-aaron-murray-m80-deck-9-25-x-32-5

Dogtown Aaron Murray M80 Deck
Modern Version of Aaron Murray's 80's Classic Deck.
Made by PS Stix


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/dogtown-bandana-street-deck-9-0

Dogtown Bandana Street Deck 9.0" x 32.45" x 14.625"wb
Blue Stain Stain
Made at BBS


For a 9" board those dimensions are actually pretty good too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 16, 2022, 06:22:12 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 16, 2022, 06:06:26 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 07:26:07 PM

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Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on October 09, 2022, 06:35:05 PM

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Just saw on the Dogtown site that some of their pops are now BBS.  Kind of interesting since they have been PS as long as I can remember.

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Seems like more and more brands are moving to BBS. Anyone know why? It seems like they've begun to dominate as of late.

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What goes on behind the scenes, anyone can guess, but the most common reason brands change woodshops or even start looking is if they are unhappy with the current supplier for whatever reason, or unable to get what they want through the current supplier.


This did remind me to go and check, so from a quick look, it is interesting that they clearly show which woodshop their boards come from, as well as listing dimensions which I am always a fan of - details help.


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/dogtown-aaron-murray-m80-deck-9-25-x-32-5

Dogtown Aaron Murray M80 Deck
Modern Version of Aaron Murray's 80's Classic Deck.
Made by PS Stix


https://dogtownskateboards.com/collections/skateboard-decks/products/dogtown-bandana-street-deck-9-0

Dogtown Bandana Street Deck 9.0" x 32.45" x 14.625"wb
Blue Stain Stain
Made at BBS


For a 9" board those dimensions are actually pretty good too.

That’s interesting about Dogtown. Quasi is using both PS Stix and BBS as well, with no plans to switch to one or the other.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 16, 2022, 08:44:49 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 07:26:07 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on October 09, 2022, 06:35:05 PM

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Just saw on the Dogtown site that some of their pops are now BBS.  Kind of interesting since they have been PS as long as I can remember.

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Seems like more and more brands are moving to BBS. Anyone know why? It seems like they've begun to dominate as of late.

Quality has gone downhill.

My shop did an order with them and many of the boards arrived warped, and a lot of them had extremely sloppy routing jobs. The one I bought delammed on the nose on the first session, which is insane because I didn't pop the nose once during that time.

My shop then got PS Stix Toy Machine decks, and while they arrived unwarped they also had sloppy routing jobs. That's insane since TM is by no means a small account.

I've had a number of PS Stix decks (Quasi, Transportation Unit, Dogtown, etc) over the years, and the one thing that was consistent with all of them was that they would feel soggy after 2-3 weeks despite not having notable damage.

BBS has 0 consistent problems like this and is ultimately the superior woodshop. It's no wonder so many brands are moving over to them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 17, 2022, 03:45:24 AM

Sure is wild to think of their journey, from what seemed like pretty much the top woodshop in the industry back around 2000 to now with people talking about so many issues and ongoing problems.

Thinking back, that all those Black Label PS Stix boards I used to ride over twenty years ago were pretty much the best boards I had ever skated, back when I actually went hard and really made the most of what I had, even riding some of the older PS Stix boards I still have that are still so stiff and good, so the product from back then really was "the good stuff" so to speak.

I might have seen and skated up to ten PS Stix boards in recent years, all from other people and most still seemed fairly decent and defect free, but I know others I have skated with have had a few issues and don't want to ride their wood any more, as well as seeing some pics and funny things as mentioned.


Any which way, if they work for you, no worries, but if they don't because of manufacturing issues or look poorly finished, that is more something to take pics of and send to the brand / local distro or whoever to check and sort out under a valid warranty claim, but even saying that, I know sometimes it is easier to just give it away or focus it and go elsewhere for better boards.

A bit different working in a shop environment and seeing so many boards come through from various brands and distros but even then, it is hard not to notice some things like that and wonder what is going on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on October 18, 2022, 02:44:35 AM

anybody know where pop makes their decks? pop as in pop trading company, eu brand. i have one, it's china made according to their website, but i can't tell where exactly. it has their logo laser etched between the front bolt holes, and then that same logo is printed under them. all natural plies.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 20, 2022, 09:08:16 PM

Quote from: roba on October 18, 2022, 02:44:35 AM

anybody know where pop makes their decks? pop as in pop trading company, eu brand. i have one, it's china made according to their website, but i can't tell where exactly. it has their logo laser etched between the front bolt holes, and then that same logo is printed under them. all natural plies.

I feel like someone talked about this a while back (about this time last year in the 2021 woodshop thread), but no definitive answer as nothing else comes up on searches.

Thought it was also through one of the "in between distros" as in MDCN, Quarter or something like that, but can't remember.  With a brand name like POP, you wouldn't want them to be on soft or soggy wood, but most boards that come out of China are very stiff and solid in construction nowdays.

As to the exact woodshop in China, there are some well known ones (Dwindle, Excel, Jeeping, Dalian Hauhong, etc) and then everyone else - no idea how many woodshops are active there as everyone is very secretive about it, or just not a whole lot of info out there when searching.  I think I follow maybe twenty on Instagram, but some of those ones could also be doubles with various accounts, but some definitely look more like the cheap complete board makers, more so than pro deck makers.

As for Pop Trading Company, basic details here, just for a reference point anyway:


https://webshop.poptradingcompany.com/


A good very clear top pic of one of the older boards:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0324/5349/2871/products/burbdecks_webshop_0000_POP-SS23-Extra-24.jpg)


Latest board line from instagram:


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci3XdKloOvq/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on October 20, 2022, 10:00:23 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 20, 2022, 09:08:16 PM

Quote from: roba on October 18, 2022, 02:44:35 AM

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anybody know where pop makes their decks? pop as in pop trading company, eu brand. i have one, it's china made according to their website, but i can't tell where exactly. it has their logo laser etched between the front bolt holes, and then that same logo is printed under them. all natural plies.

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I feel like someone talked about this a while back (about this time last year in the 2021 woodshop thread), but no definitive answer as nothing else comes up on searches.

Thought it was also through one of the "in between distros" as in MDCN, Quarter or something like that, but can't remember.  With a brand name like POP, you wouldn't want them to be on soft or soggy wood, but most boards that come out of China are very stiff and solid in construction nowdays.

As to the exact woodshop in China, there are some well known ones (Dwindle, Excel, Jeeping, Dalian Hauhong, etc) and then everyone else - no idea how many woodshops are active there as everyone is very secretive about it, or just not a whole lot of info out there when searching.  I think I follow maybe twenty on Instagram, but some of those ones could also be doubles with various accounts, but some definitely look more like the cheap complete board makers, more so than pro deck makers.

As for Pop Trading Company, basic details here, just for a reference point anyway:


https://webshop.poptradingcompany.com/


A good very clear top pic of one of the older boards:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0324/5349/2871/products/burbdecks_webshop_0000_POP-SS23-Extra-24.jpg)


Latest board line from instagram:


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci3XdKloOvq/

pretty sure they use dwindle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sionarancsle on October 21, 2022, 01:02:56 AM

Hi!

Magenta is using BBS according to the directory, but on their website it says generator wood from heaven
https://shop.magentaskateboards.com/products/big-plant-team-board-1052

I thought generator was BBS, what does this generator wood from heaven mean? Heaven is some printing company?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 21, 2022, 02:49:27 AM

Quote from: sionarancsle on October 21, 2022, 01:02:56 AM

Hi!

Magenta is using BBS according to the directory, but on their website it says generator wood from heaven
https://shop.magentaskateboards.com/products/big-plant-team-board-1052

I thought generator was BBS, what does this generator wood from heaven mean? Heaven is some printing company?

Yes it is one in the same, even if there feel like small differences between some of the boards, eg DLX / Baker / Element and others all seem exactly the same (made on the same molds / presses), but the Generator boards feel slightly different that are used for shop boards or for local brands that I have skated / stood on (most likely made on different molds / presses in the same place).

Simply speaking, BBS is the woodshop itself, where everything is made.  Generator is their retail arm for blanks used for wholesale accounts that are too small to be directly associated with BBS like most of the main big brands, including those I listed above and most of the top tier brands that everyone knows from the main list.

As to what they have on those Magenta website listings, you can take that as their version of flair, or poetic license so to speak.  Nothing more and definitely nothing to do with a brand name or other reference to heaven.


Another listing or three which are similarly funny:


https://shop.magentaskateboards.com/products/ruben-spelta-museum-series-board-1450


ITALIAN STALLION PRO BOARD
FROM OUR MUSEUM SERIES
MADE IN THE AMERICAS
BY GENERATOR WOOD
SAME AS DAY ONE
AND BEST EVER
FREE PLANT CUT OUT GRIPTAPE
ARTWORK BY SOY PANDAY


https://shop.magentaskateboards.com/products/trumpet-one-off-board-1327

JAZZY BOARD OFFERING
WOOD PLY IN VARIOUS COLORS
WHICH MAY VARY
INTRODUCING NEW STEEPER SHAPES FOR BOTH SIZES 8' & 8.4'
SAME SHAPE, JUST STEEPER
MADE BY GENERATOR
IN ZE AMERICAS
BEST WOOD ON PLANET EARTH
ASK AROUND
FREE MAGENTA GRIPATE
FOR GOOD MEASURE


https://shop.magentaskateboards.com/products/sunset-one-offs-boards-1328

SUNSET ON PARIS
WOOD PLY COLOUR MAY VARY
INTRODUCING NEW STEEPER SHAPESFOR FOR SIZE 8'
SAME SHAPE, JUST STEEPER
MADE IN ZE AMERICAS
BY THE BEST WOODSHOP
THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN
FREE MAGENTA GRIPTAPE



Anyone tried those steeper shapes???

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 26, 2022, 06:13:07 PM

Anybody can tell me more about 8.25 pizza shapes?

Ps stix. Are they similar to GX?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 26, 2022, 06:47:27 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 26, 2022, 06:13:07 PM

Anybody can tell me more about 8.25 pizza shapes?

Ps stix. Are they similar to GX?

Holding on to the Pizza 8.25 x 31.825 x 14.25, slight taper towards the nose and tail, unlike the GX which has a fuller nose and stubbier tail. The top pic gives a good idea of the shape:
https://pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/vieira-speedy-deck-8-25?utm_source=sg.pizzaskateboards.com&utm_campaign=cs_w&utm_medium=wi_proxy&utm_content=en_SG&gl_currency=USD&gl_language=en

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 26, 2022, 08:58:45 PM

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For those who are familiar with PS Stix, they would know the boards are measured with the concave, so will always show as longer in the factory specs than when measured straight across from tip to tip.

As @rocklobster has put in there, it is 31.825 straight across, but 32.2 or something on the Pizza web site.

I often have people asking about this, or wonder why almost every other woodshop measures straight across, but PS Stix always measure with the concave.  The PS Stix boards seem shorter when put back to back with other boards of similar listed dimensions and that is the reason for it.


Also from looking through the website, some of the boards have listed info with "Shovel nose and tail" so they might have a couple of shapes running there too, a normal rounded / more pointy one and a squared off stubby one.

The top pic used is the same image for all their boards, from the look of it, so they have cut corners there, but some other places that do show every single top of board pic might be a better reference.


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/hot-2-deck-8-25

8 1/4" width, 32 3/8" length, 14 1/4" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6 7/8" tail
Shovel nose and tail
Made in Mexico at PS Stix

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/HOT_DECK_PIZZA_FALL_21_a81b5a83-6257-4391-a1a3-795e655a6940_2400x.jpg)


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/balloon-deck-8-25

8 1/4" width, 32 1/4" length, 14 1/4" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6 7/8" tail
Popsicle shape
Made in Mexico at PS Stix

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/BALOON_DECK_PIZZA_SM22_2400x.jpg)



Trying to find multiple sites with good pics of the same boards / different shapes has proved difficult.

This is the popsicle shape looking at the pic, I would imagine, but the Pizza web site has it listed as the shovel shape with that graphic, so maybe going in to see it in person somewhere is the best option:


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/pizzier-deck

Available in two sizes
8" popsicle & 8.25" shovel
8" width, 32.375" length, 14.25" wheelbase, 7.25" nose, 6.75" tail
8.25" width, 32.375" length, 14.25" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6.875" tail
Made in Mexico at PS Stix


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Pizza_Pizzier_Deck/descpage-PZPZRDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=PZPZRDK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 26, 2022, 09:26:05 PM

Quote from: pointandclick on October 20, 2022, 10:00:23 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 20, 2022, 09:08:16 PM

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Quote from: roba on October 18, 2022, 02:44:35 AM

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anybody know where pop makes their decks? pop as in pop trading company, eu brand. i have one, it's china made according to their website, but i can't tell where exactly. it has their logo laser etched between the front bolt holes, and then that same logo is printed under them. all natural plies.

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I feel like someone talked about this a while back (about this time last year in the 2021 woodshop thread), but no definitive answer as nothing else comes up on searches.

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pretty sure they use dwindle.

I think I forgot about this, but saw it again when going through posts on this page and I have added it to the list now.

Makes sense, from looking at those boards, concave, made in China, etc.


Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 27, 2022, 02:22:21 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 26, 2022, 08:58:45 PM

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For those who are familiar with PS Stix, they would know the boards are measured with the concave, so will always show as longer in the factory specs than when measured straight across from tip to tip.

As @rocklobster has put in there, it is 31.825 straight across, but 32.2 or something on the Pizza web site.

I often have people asking about this, or wonder why almost every other woodshop measures straight across, but PS Stix always measure with the concave.  The PS Stix boards seem shorter when put back to back with other boards of similar listed dimensions and that is the reason for it.


Also from looking through the website, some of the boards have listed info with "Shovel nose and tail" so they might have a couple of shapes running there too, a normal rounded / more pointy one and a squared off stubby one.

The top pic used is the same image for all their boards, from the look of it, so they have cut corners there, but some other places that do show every single top of board pic might be a better reference.


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/hot-2-deck-8-25

8 1/4" width, 32 3/8" length, 14 1/4" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6 7/8" tail
Shovel nose and tail
Made in Mexico at PS Stix

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/HOT_DECK_PIZZA_FALL_21_a81b5a83-6257-4391-a1a3-795e655a6940_2400x.jpg)


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/balloon-deck-8-25

8 1/4" width, 32 1/4" length, 14 1/4" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6 7/8" tail
Popsicle shape
Made in Mexico at PS Stix

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/BALOON_DECK_PIZZA_SM22_2400x.jpg)



Trying to find multiple sites with good pics of the same boards / different shapes has proved difficult.

This is the popsicle shape looking at the pic, I would imagine, but the Pizza web site has it listed as the shovel shape with that graphic, so maybe going in to see it in person somewhere is the best option:


https://au.pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/pizzier-deck

Available in two sizes
8" popsicle & 8.25" shovel
8" width, 32.375" length, 14.25" wheelbase, 7.25" nose, 6.75" tail
8.25" width, 32.375" length, 14.25" wheelbase, 7" nose, 6.875" tail
Made in Mexico at PS Stix


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Pizza_Pizzier_Deck/descpage-PZPZRDK.html

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=PZPZRDK-2.jpg)

Ah interesting and good to know that they are actually shorter! The length bothered me a little bit. I don’t like too short decks, but that sounded a bit too long for me

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 02:01:33 PM

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Anybody can tell me more about 8.25 pizza shapes?

Ps stix. Are they similar to GX?

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Holding on to the Pizza 8.25 x 31.825 x 14.25, slight taper towards the nose and tail, unlike the GX which has a fuller nose and stubbier tail. The top pic gives a good idea of the shape:
https://pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/vieira-speedy-deck-8-25?utm_source=sg.pizzaskateboards.com&utm_campaign=cs_w&utm_medium=wi_proxy&utm_content=en_SG&gl_currency=USD&gl_language=en

I got one for cheap and it skates really good. Are there brands with similar dimensions? I really think it’s pretty much perfect for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2022, 03:32:19 PM

@SlapMcKracken Was it the popsicle / pointy one or the other one with the shovel nose and tail?


Anything you could get for cheap, keep looking and get more, as long as you can afford it. 

That is what I always try to do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2022, 03:32:19 PM

@SlapMcKracken Was it the popsicle / pointy one or the other one with the shovel nose and tail?


Anything you could get for cheap, keep looking and get more, as long as you can afford it. 

That is what I always try to do.

That’s a good question man.
It’s not fa/gx/Alien Full, but also not baker pointed.

I did order two more and one of them says „shovel nose and tail“ on the site, so let’s see if it’s different to the one I got.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 29, 2022, 10:16:39 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2022, 03:32:19 PM

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@SlapMcKracken Was it the popsicle / pointy one or the other one with the shovel nose and tail?


Anything you could get for cheap, keep looking and get more, as long as you can afford it. 

That is what I always try to do.

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That’s a good question man.
It’s not fa/gx/Alien Full, but also not baker pointed.

I did order two more and one of them says „shovel nose and tail“ on the site, so let’s see if it’s different to the one I got.

They did go to Clutch for a bit so watch out for the older stock on their website:

Those with this top ply graphic should be Clutch:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/WINTER20TOPGRAPHIC_b401ffee-272d-4323-9358-322ee5ca163f_2400x.jpg?v=1608849308)

Older ones from PS Stix will have the top ply laser marking:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/Tomato_chef_top_graphic_Pizza_spring_21_fa4d259d-a9b6-47b9-bb4f-15fe4e0cda26_2400x.jpg?v=1621294285)


The newer ones just straight up state they are made at PS Stix:
https://pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/stencil-deck-8-0-8-25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 30, 2022, 02:38:09 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 29, 2022, 10:16:39 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 04:19:31 PM

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@SlapMcKracken Was it the popsicle / pointy one or the other one with the shovel nose and tail?


Anything you could get for cheap, keep looking and get more, as long as you can afford it. 

That is what I always try to do.

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That’s a good question man.
It’s not fa/gx/Alien Full, but also not baker pointed.

I did order two more and one of them says „shovel nose and tail“ on the site, so let’s see if it’s different to the one I got.

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They did go to Clutch for a bit so watch out for the older stock on their website:

Those with this top ply graphic should be Clutch:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/WINTER20TOPGRAPHIC_b401ffee-272d-4323-9358-322ee5ca163f_2400x.jpg?v=1608849308)

Older ones from PS Stix will have the top ply laser marking:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/Tomato_chef_top_graphic_Pizza_spring_21_fa4d259d-a9b6-47b9-bb4f-15fe4e0cda26_2400x.jpg?v=1621294285)


The newer ones just straight up state they are made at PS Stix:
https://pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/stencil-deck-8-0-8-25

The ones I got (and ordered) are Ps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ridethegutter on October 30, 2022, 08:13:27 AM

I love the ps stix pizza decks. I have only skated the shovel noses. Currently skating the 8.38.

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on October 30, 2022, 02:38:09 AM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2022, 03:32:19 PM

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@SlapMcKracken Was it the popsicle / pointy one or the other one with the shovel nose and tail?


Anything you could get for cheap, keep looking and get more, as long as you can afford it. 

That is what I always try to do.

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That’s a good question man.
It’s not fa/gx/Alien Full, but also not baker pointed.

I did order two more and one of them says „shovel nose and tail“ on the site, so let’s see if it’s different to the one I got.

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They did go to Clutch for a bit so watch out for the older stock on their website:

Those with this top ply graphic should be Clutch:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/WINTER20TOPGRAPHIC_b401ffee-272d-4323-9358-322ee5ca163f_2400x.jpg?v=1608849308)

Older ones from PS Stix will have the top ply laser marking:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/1413/products/Tomato_chef_top_graphic_Pizza_spring_21_fa4d259d-a9b6-47b9-bb4f-15fe4e0cda26_2400x.jpg?v=1621294285)


The newer ones just straight up state they are made at PS Stix:
https://pizzaskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/stencil-deck-8-0-8-25

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The ones I got (and ordered) are Ps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:07:17 AM

Does anyone know who uses the BBS shape that is 8.38 x 14.25 x 31.95?

I got an Element board in those dimensions for cheap and it turned out to be nearly perfect for me. Curious what other brands use that exact shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2022, 11:48:02 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:07:17 AM

Does anyone know who uses the BBS shape that is 8.38 x 14.25 x 31.95?

I got an Element board in those dimensions for cheap and it turned out to be nearly perfect for me. Curious what other brands use that exact shape.

The exact shape? Maybe none. Element is (or at least was at one point) big enough that I'm pretty sure they have their own molds and shapes at BBS. They definitely have custom dims on some of them and I bought one of those MLB decks and it was a totally different shape than any other bbs I've had. Pretty flat and full. I doubt they're using off the shelf stuff.

Dlx has a couple 8.38s in that neighborhood dimension-wise. Krooked and real use it more than AH from what I can tell so maybe check their catalogs. The ishod twin tail shape is right around there but it's a twin tail so that might take some adjustment.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:54:04 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on October 30, 2022, 11:48:02 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:07:17 AM

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Does anyone know who uses the BBS shape that is 8.38 x 14.25 x 31.95?

I got an Element board in those dimensions for cheap and it turned out to be nearly perfect for me. Curious what other brands use that exact shape.

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The exact shape? Maybe none. Element is (or at least was at one point) big enough that I'm pretty sure they have their own molds and shapes at BBS. They definitely have custom dims on some of them and I bought one of those MLB decks and it was a totally different shape than any other bbs I've had. Pretty flat and full. I doubt they're using off the shelf stuff.

Dlx has a couple 8.38s in that neighborhood dimension-wise. Krooked and real use it more than AH from what I can tell so maybe check their catalogs. The ishod twin tail shape is right around there but it's a twin tail so that might take some adjustment.

Element has two different shapes for each width, which makes it a bit more tricky. I was curious if that 8.38/14.25/31.95 was a generic BBS shape that other brands might use.

Because I am insane, I found the exact board I have on clearance and bought two more. Gonna try brimsons razor graphic removal on em. :)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 30, 2022, 02:55:10 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:54:04 AM

Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on October 30, 2022, 11:48:02 AM

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Does anyone know who uses the BBS shape that is 8.38 x 14.25 x 31.95?

I got an Element board in those dimensions for cheap and it turned out to be nearly perfect for me. Curious what other brands use that exact shape.

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The exact shape? Maybe none. Element is (or at least was at one point) big enough that I'm pretty sure they have their own molds and shapes at BBS. They definitely have custom dims on some of them and I bought one of those MLB decks and it was a totally different shape than any other bbs I've had. Pretty flat and full. I doubt they're using off the shelf stuff.

Dlx has a couple 8.38s in that neighborhood dimension-wise. Krooked and real use it more than AH from what I can tell so maybe check their catalogs. The ishod twin tail shape is right around there but it's a twin tail so that might take some adjustment.

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Element has two different shapes for each width, which makes it a bit more tricky. I was curious if that 8.38/14.25/31.95 was a generic BBS shape that other brands might use.

Because I am insane, I found the exact board I have on clearance and bought two more. Gonna try brimsons razor graphic removal on em. :)

Re razor blade graphic scrape:

It takes bit to get used to it, but works easily enough once you get the hang of it.

Even just start with the logo or brand names on it, if the graphic is not too bad, that is.


As to the shape, yes they have two versions of 8.38 BBS made boards as well one or more 8.38 China made boards, but in BBS the short one you got and the longer one, same as the DLX and other board 8.38 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb, which you wouldn't want (but is perfect for me).

Sometimes shops list them differently, but from what I have seen, they are bringing out the shorter one more so now than the longer one and have done it on a few different graphics now, so it might be here to stay.

Those Element boards here in AU are always on sale at up to 50% or more off from certain shops, so I feel like it is well worth the time it takes to scrape them back, just to get "two BBS blanks for the price of one pro board" when it is the shape I like.


I think Primitive 8.38 is near on those dimensions, but then Primitive have been known to be on up to three different woodshops - BBS from Mexico, one from USA and one from China, so take care there too.

There was one more brand that had similar dimensions, but right this minute I can't think of it - one of the shorter overall type board brands had one that someone got and didn't like how short it was, but it would work well for you.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 03:50:54 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 30, 2022, 02:55:10 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:54:04 AM

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Quote from: Buttfart Rapedick on October 30, 2022, 11:48:02 AM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on October 30, 2022, 11:07:17 AM

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Does anyone know who uses the BBS shape that is 8.38 x 14.25 x 31.95?

I got an Element board in those dimensions for cheap and it turned out to be nearly perfect for me. Curious what other brands use that exact shape.

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The exact shape? Maybe none. Element is (or at least was at one point) big enough that I'm pretty sure they have their own molds and shapes at BBS. They definitely have custom dims on some of them and I bought one of those MLB decks and it was a totally different shape than any other bbs I've had. Pretty flat and full. I doubt they're using off the shelf stuff.

Dlx has a couple 8.38s in that neighborhood dimension-wise. Krooked and real use it more than AH from what I can tell so maybe check their catalogs. The ishod twin tail shape is right around there but it's a twin tail so that might take some adjustment.

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Element has two different shapes for each width, which makes it a bit more tricky. I was curious if that 8.38/14.25/31.95 was a generic BBS shape that other brands might use.

Because I am insane, I found the exact board I have on clearance and bought two more. Gonna try brimsons razor graphic removal on em. :)

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Re razor blade graphic scrape:

It takes bit to get used to it, but works easily enough once you get the hang of it.

Even just start with the logo or brand names on it, if the graphic is not too bad, that is.


As to the shape, yes they have two versions of 8.38 BBS made boards as well one or more 8.38 China made boards, but in BBS the short one you got and the longer one, same as the DLX and other board 8.38 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb, which you wouldn't want (but is perfect for me).

Sometimes shops list them differently, but from what I have seen, they are bringing out the shorter one more so now than the longer one and have done it on a few different graphics now, so it might be here to stay.

Those Element boards here in AU are always on sale at up to 50% or more off from certain shops, so I feel like it is well worth the time it takes to scrape them back, just to get "two BBS blanks for the price of one pro board" when it is the shape I like.


I think Primitive 8.38 is near on those dimensions, but then Primitive have been known to be on up to three different woodshops - BBS from Mexico, one from USA and one from China, so take care there too.

There was one more brand that had similar dimensions, but right this minute I can't think of it - one of the shorter overall type board brands had one that someone got and didn't like how short it was, but it would work well for you.

Luckily this particular graphic isn't terrible. It's fun blanking and customizing stuff though. I like seam ripping logos off clothes or acetoning logos off hardgoods.

I saw that the Primitive 8.38 is very similar in dimensions, but it looks more full nose and tail. Good to know though. Have seen a few on clearance as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on October 30, 2022, 04:24:29 PM

DGK lenticulars are made in china and not bbs like the FA ones were.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALLSACK_SKATEBOARDING on October 31, 2022, 08:49:19 AM

Anyone know what brands have similar shape/wheelbase to April? Been skating a few April decks and really like how they feel but i don't really love their graphics

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 01, 2022, 04:57:30 PM

Quote from: BALLSACK_SKATEBOARDING on October 31, 2022, 08:49:19 AM

Anyone know what brands have similar shape/wheelbase to April? Been skating a few April decks and really like how they feel but i don't really love their graphics

Primitive comes to mind

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 01, 2022, 04:59:11 PM

I was looking at Maxallure decks and was thinking of picking up one of these

https://maxallureskateboards.com/collections/boards/products/pixel-sf?variant=39595365105798

Anyone know dimensions for these (PGI)? I'm especially interested in 8.25-8.5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 01, 2022, 07:30:33 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on November 01, 2022, 04:59:11 PM

I was looking at Maxallure decks and was thinking of picking up one of these

https://maxallureskateboards.com/collections/boards/products/pixel-sf?variant=39595365105798

Anyone know dimensions for these (PGI)? I'm especially interested in 8.25-8.5

I had one and it was pretty standard for the 8.25 x 31.75 x 14.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 01, 2022, 08:25:12 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 01, 2022, 07:30:33 PM

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I was looking at Maxallure decks and was thinking of picking up one of these

https://maxallureskateboards.com/collections/boards/products/pixel-sf?variant=39595365105798

Anyone know dimensions for these (PGI)? I'm especially interested in 8.25-8.5

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I had one and it was pretty standard for the 8.25 x 31.75 x 14.25

That's perfect thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 02, 2022, 06:27:35 PM

Quote from: TwisT on October 30, 2022, 04:24:29 PM

DGK lenticulars are made in china and not bbs like the FA ones were.

I wonder if it was more a case of logistics and whatever they had to do with those materials, so that was the better option or something else.  Keep the extra costs down by making them in China?

Had to google "lenticular" so how different is it to a normal graphic? 

You said the board was heavier, so thicker paint, or something more like those hologram decks, but not quite that far?

Curious and interested, either way.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 04, 2022, 06:04:04 PM

Quote from: off on October 24, 2022, 07:30:26 PM

freedome 8.75
8.75/32/14.25wb
(https://i.ibb.co/3s3SbjK/5685-C88-B-C0-EB-4342-82-EF-6196-C2021392.webp) (https://ibb.co/qnSm8c6)
(https://i.ibb.co/2ygPdKL/22-A18876-599-D-4-A1-C-BA99-7-C36-D490-CD8-B.webp) (https://ibb.co/hyDHV8n)

I noticed that those new boards are not PS Stix.

The Free Dome site says USA, so whether it is just for this specific Motorhead package or a change, anyone have any other info?


https://freedometoskate.com/collections/motorhead-collection/products/motorhead-8-75-lt-charcoal


8.75" Width x 32" Length x 14.25" Wheelbase

Officially Licensed Motorhead Geoff Rowley Pro Skateboard

7 Ply custom charcoal dyed veneers.

Dyed, not Dipped!

Made in the USA

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 10, 2022, 07:09:33 AM

Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 10, 2022, 07:26:14 AM

Quote from: finalist on November 10, 2022, 07:09:33 AM

Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

If it's a Primitive and says Made in the USA, it almost has to be from Pennswood. According to the list, Primitive did some of its 2021 boards at Pennswood and some at BBS. Perhaps they're still doing some decks at Pennswood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 10, 2022, 09:27:49 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on November 10, 2022, 07:26:14 AM

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Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

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If it's a Primitive and says Made in the USA, it almost has to be from Pennswood. According to the list, Primitive did some of its 2021 boards at Pennswood and some at BBS. Perhaps they're still doing some decks at Pennswood.

Two things though... this is a deck from Primitive's newest release just days ago - The Pennswood claim seems to be listed for 2021 decks. When surfing slap for info on this I found a post that claims some Made in the USA boards are BBS because BBS has an office or something in Socal??

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 10, 2022, 09:40:05 AM

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Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

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If it's a Primitive and says Made in the USA, it almost has to be from Pennswood. According to the list, Primitive did some of its 2021 boards at Pennswood and some at BBS. Perhaps they're still doing some decks at Pennswood.

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Two things though... this is a deck from Primitive's newest release just days ago - The Pennswood claim seems to be listed for 2021 decks. When surfing slap for info on this I found a post that claims some Made in the USA boards are BBS because BBS has an office or something in Socal??

I haven't heard about BBS doing any boards in SoCal, but that doesn't mean I'm right! Who knows these days. The last few years have seen a lot of shuffling and small runs at woodshops like Pennswood.

Be interesting to see if we get any resolution on this.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 10, 2022, 01:26:25 PM

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Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

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If it's a Primitive and says Made in the USA, it almost has to be from Pennswood. According to the list, Primitive did some of its 2021 boards at Pennswood and some at BBS. Perhaps they're still doing some decks at Pennswood.

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Two things though... this is a deck from Primitive's newest release just days ago - The Pennswood claim seems to be listed for 2021 decks. When surfing slap for info on this I found a post that claims some Made in the USA boards are BBS because BBS has an office or something in Socal??

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I haven't heard about BBS doing any boards in SoCal, but that doesn't mean I'm right! Who knows these days. The last few years have seen a lot of shuffling and small runs at woodshops like Pennswood.

Be interesting to see if we get any resolution on this.

I messaged Pennswood and they said they didn't mfg the Primitive deck I have and suggested it could be Watson Laminate or maybe a new shop called Vital.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 10, 2022, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: finalist on November 10, 2022, 01:26:25 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on November 10, 2022, 07:26:14 AM

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Quote from: finalist on November 10, 2022, 07:09:33 AM

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Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?
It's a Primitive 8.25 (Prod Knight deck - graphic has some chrome finish with rose art and a city scape and knight chess piece). The measurements are spot on the same as my April 8.25 BBS decks but the Primitive has a bit more steepness in the nose and tail kicks and maybe a tiny bit more concave as observed when both decks are stacked on each other. Also, the Primitive weighs 20 grams more at 1245g.The Primitve didn't have the BBS hologram sticker, fwiwi. From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

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If it's a Primitive and says Made in the USA, it almost has to be from Pennswood. According to the list, Primitive did some of its 2021 boards at Pennswood and some at BBS. Perhaps they're still doing some decks at Pennswood.

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Two things though... this is a deck from Primitive's newest release just days ago - The Pennswood claim seems to be listed for 2021 decks. When surfing slap for info on this I found a post that claims some Made in the USA boards are BBS because BBS has an office or something in Socal??

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I haven't heard about BBS doing any boards in SoCal, but that doesn't mean I'm right! Who knows these days. The last few years have seen a lot of shuffling and small runs at woodshops like Pennswood.

Be interesting to see if we get any resolution on this.

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I messaged Pennswood and they said they didn't mfg the Primitive deck I have and suggested it could be Watson Laminate or maybe a new shop called Vital.

The plot thickens!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 10, 2022, 03:33:24 PM

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That is an interesting one.

Makes sense and now I have a new one to add to the list.

Thinking I have seen that logo before, but can't place it though.


https://www.instagram.com/vitalusaskateboards/

https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/


First post is from December 2021, but almost no other info available there.


(https://i.ibb.co/yWg7Lmr/Vital-USA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yWg7Lmr)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 10, 2022, 04:16:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 10, 2022, 03:33:24 PM

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That is an interesting one.

Makes sense and now I have a new one to add to the list.

Thinking I have seen that logo before, but can't place it though.


https://www.instagram.com/vitalusaskateboards/

https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/


First post is from December 2021, but almost no other info available there.


(https://i.ibb.co/yWg7Lmr/Vital-USA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yWg7Lmr)

Do you know if Watson went out of biz? They haven’t updated their website for years in the sections I can see dates.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 10, 2022, 04:54:22 PM

Quote from: finalist on November 10, 2022, 04:16:05 PM

Do you know if Watson went out of biz? They haven’t updated their website for years in the sections I can see dates.

I don't really follow or catch up with much going on like that, but I think there was maybe a management or staff change so many things like the web site or social media might have been forgotten.

Last info was they were still making some boards but no where near as many as they used to, now buying in blanks to supply most of the cheaper generic market as well.

I could be wrong though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 10, 2022, 05:04:06 PM

Quote from: finalist on November 10, 2022, 07:09:33 AM

Who makes my new Primitive Made in USA deck?

From reading the made in the USA are either Pennswood or BBS - but how can BBS claim made in the USA?

Are they still the little black and white square or diamond shaped stickers on the Primitive decks, with the "MADE IN..." at the bottom in the smallest print possible?


I don't think BBS wood is being said to be USA, as all their own stuff has "Made in Mexico" stickers on them from BBS directly.

Just on the "Made in USA" thing, there are definitely brands out there who claim USA on their products, either directly putting USA stickers on their boards when clearly they are not, maybe putting heat transfers on in USA so claiming that they are USA made, or even some other process happening in USA that they justify that product as being made in USA, but there are only a handful of woodshops actually operating in the USA, maybe a few more now with pandemic easing and who knows what else going on, with more than anything production moved to cheaper places like Mexico or now increasingly to China.

Even for some big brands that have been using specific and well known woodshops for a long time, some of their boards are coming from China in increasing numbers too, but most of these do have "Made in China" stickers on them as well, that I have seen.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 10, 2022, 08:48:00 PM

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Do you know if Watson went out of biz? They haven’t updated their website for years in the sections I can see dates.

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I don't really follow or catch up with much going on like that, but I think there was maybe a management or staff change so many things like the web site or social media might have been forgotten.

Last info was they were still making some boards but no where near as many as they used to, now buying in blanks to supply most of the cheaper generic market as well.

I could be wrong though.

It had the diamond black and white sticker with made in USA in the lower corner.

The quality seems pretty good. The final spray coat of varnish is really rich looking on the sides — more deeper, thicker looking than bbs. The middle layer is a beautiful blue stain with blue bottom stain and grey top stain. I would guess it’s a quality group of laminates. It feels as stiff and solid as any deck I’ve tried. I’m skating it and a bbs april with the same trucks, wheels, bearings, grip and bolts and all feels pretty close. The April is a hair flatter all around but I can only tell because I have both right next to each other. Their measurements are both exactly the same. This whole started because I’m looking for the April 8.25 shape by other brands for ease of purchasing access.
(https://i.ibb.co/C1RWNF1/E81-CAC3-C-07-B4-4-A4-C-A4-EA-EE1-AC9-A60-FD6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1RWNF1)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 11, 2022, 03:18:59 AM

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I was in a few shops today and saw all the Primitive boards had the BBS hologram sticker and "Made in Mexico" on them here in AU, but I did notice again the Rip N Dip boards, which looked and felt a lot like those ones you are describing, slightly thicker wood ply layers, similar concave but not exactly the same as BBS, with "Made in USA" on them.

Besides standing on them and looking at them, I was not about to get any of them and haven't seen anyone at a park riding one to be able to get more info, but they seem good.  I have enough boards anyway, but they have been on clearance at quite a few places here too.


A Magenta 8.5 Brush graphic that came through my hands recently felt a little different, even though it had the dot and same exact warning sticker as Baker and similar boards, Made in Mexico, brown stain bottom with a teal top, dimensions being 8.5 x 32 with 14.38 wb, which was interesting, but almost felt like flatter faced kicks, not the usual spoon shaped kicks.  It was another one on clearance.

Some Black Label were exactly the same as usual BBS, just the coloured top and bottom ply, 8.5 x 32.3 or so with 14.5 wb on them and although too steep in the kicks for my liking, they mellowed out nicely once I had parked on them for a bit.

Element have done a BBS run of the Star Wars graphic, as well as a more widely distributed new range with what seems like all boards being on wood with more generic concave and "Made in China" stickers on them.  People who have skated them say they go ok too, which is good for the cheaper boards they are.  Both those and the Star Wars BBS boards have been on sale, so getting two decent decks for the price of one pro board from another brand is a good deal for those who don't mind taking the graphic off or skating them as is.

Birdhouse is another one that have BBS wood, then China wood which seemed pretty good, as well as China pricepoint, which seemed a lot softer.  The thing that is funny about some of those boards is exact same width and graphic can be on a BBS or a China made board, but the shape, concave and other dimensions are different, from the boards I checked the other day.


There have been so many sales and overstock clearances of lots of brands in many shops of late, which has been a good chance to stock up on some cheaper boards, but I wonder how many more boards are going to end up on clearance if shops are still getting in too much stock and not enough RRP product is being sold, which then has a flow on effect.

Does it seem like similar things are happening in other places too?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: scab on November 11, 2022, 06:08:31 AM

^Yeah, it's the same here in Europe. Lots of shops sell decks for prices at or even below break-even because they sit on way too much product. Same goes for other hardware. While that's a short-term treat for customers, I'm afraid not all shops will be able to cope with such slim margins for long. If I skated regular popcicles I'd be torn between stocking up on deals and continuing to buy full price decks to support my local. Luckily I skate twin tails and those are never on sale, so necessity forces me to do the right thing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 11, 2022, 08:19:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 11, 2022, 03:18:59 AM

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I was in a few shops today and saw all the Primitive boards had the BBS hologram …
Does it seem like similar things are happening in other places too?

The primitive I have is not any thicker than my BBS decks, fwiw.
So the common knowledge (I think) in the past was co-lab Primitive decks are often Chinese but everyone I’ve checked recently is BBS with the bbs hologram sticker on top.
So far I really like the usa Primitive deck I got but I would definitely not order a primitive from online without knowing the top stickers.

I like the Crailtap G052 shape from China and I noticed the Few PSStix G052 shapes I’ve seen in person look to have a more pointy nose - not as blunt as the Chinese crailtap G052 shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 12, 2022, 03:49:03 PM

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That is an interesting one.

Makes sense and now I have a new one to add to the list.

Thinking I have seen that logo before, but can't place it though.


https://www.instagram.com/vitalusaskateboards/

https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/


First post is from December 2021, but almost no other info available there.


(https://i.ibb.co/yWg7Lmr/Vital-USA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yWg7Lmr)

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Do you know if Watson went out of biz? They haven’t updated their website for years in the sections I can see dates.

Looking over the site, which doesn't have much info, this was interesting - been around marketing and sales talk most of my adult life, so I am just a bit skeptical about most things, but does this sound more like the new board you have?



https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/about


Vital USA is an American Manufacturer of Premium Skateboards.
Our mission:

To create the highest quality skateboard.


What you can expect?

A skateboard with a distinct pop! A quality you can feel, and a consistent product experience.


What makes Vital USA different?

A relentless, unwavering attention to quality. We have tight tolerances on every aspect of the production process, preferring a lighter and thinner board than industry standard - but without compromising strength and overall durability. Adequate drying and painting times are vital. Pro tested and approved concave and shapes. Full custom veneer options.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: finalist on November 12, 2022, 11:36:49 PM

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That is an interesting one.

Makes sense and now I have a new one to add to the list.

Thinking I have seen that logo before, but can't place it though.


https://www.instagram.com/vitalusaskateboards/

https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/


First post is from December 2021, but almost no other info available there.


(https://i.ibb.co/yWg7Lmr/Vital-USA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yWg7Lmr)

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Do you know if Watson went out of biz? They haven’t updated their website for years in the sections I can see dates.

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Looking over the site, which doesn't have much info, this was interesting - been around marketing and sales talk most of my adult life, so I am just a bit skeptical about most things, but does this sound more like the new board you have?



https://www.vitalusaskateboards.com/about


Vital USA is an American Manufacturer of Premium Skateboards.
Our mission:

To create the highest quality skateboard.


What you can expect?

A skateboard with a distinct pop! A quality you can feel, and a consistent product experience.


What makes Vital USA different?

A relentless, unwavering attention to quality. We have tight tolerances on every aspect of the production process, preferring a lighter and thinner board than industry standard - but without compromising strength and overall durability. Adequate drying and painting times are vital. Pro tested and approved concave and shapes. Full custom veneer options.

I read that too and it doesn’t fit my Primitive usa deck. My Primitive is 1245grams while my bbs April is 1220 grams. Both decks are 12.4mm with mob grip. The pop sounds like any other bbs I’ve owned.

After a couple days of use the primitive does feel like it has more normal concave and kicks while the April has a very flat feel that I prefer. I think most would prefer the Primitive though as it has a more Real se full shape feel but with a 14” wheelbase. All my decks are 8.25”

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 02:54:54 PM

Got 2 decks from Element sale last week, 32cad each pretty crazy deal.

first is a Westgate BBS

second is just generic and unknown woodshop with VERY steep kicks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Basingstoke on November 14, 2022, 03:18:29 PM

Quote from: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 02:54:54 PM

Got 2 decks from Element sale last week, 32cad each pretty crazy deal.

first is a Westgate BBS

second is just generic and unknown woodshop with VERY steep kicks

The lazering on the second reminds me of Dailan Huahong boards and I believe that Girl G008 shape is the same dimensons or simliar.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: somedudefromnj on November 14, 2022, 05:36:38 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 17, 2022, 03:45:24 AM

Sure is wild to think of their journey, from what seemed like pretty much the top woodshop in the industry back around 2000 to now with people talking about so many issues and ongoing problems.

Thinking back, that all those Black Label PS Stix boards I used to ride over twenty years ago were pretty much the best boards I had ever skated, back when I actually went hard and really made the most of what I had, even riding some of the older PS Stix boards I still have that are still so stiff and good, so the product from back then really was "the good stuff" so to speak.

I might have seen and skated up to ten PS Stix boards in recent years, all from other people and most still seemed fairly decent and defect free, but I know others I have skated with have had a few issues and don't want to ride their wood any more, as well as seeing some pics and funny things as mentioned.


Any which way, if they work for you, no worries, but if they don't because of manufacturing issues or look poorly finished, that is more something to take pics of and send to the brand / local distro or whoever to check and sort out under a valid warranty claim, but even saying that, I know sometimes it is easier to just give it away or focus it and go elsewhere for better boards.

A bit different working in a shop environment and seeing so many boards come through from various brands and distros but even then, it is hard not to notice some things like that and wonder what is going on.

I feel like Schmidt is doing it on purpose. Videos keep popping up of him saying "you want the give that keeps giving" meaning the wood giving

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 14, 2022, 06:35:23 PM

Quote from: Basingstoke on November 14, 2022, 03:18:29 PM

Quote from: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 02:54:54 PM

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Got 2 decks from Element sale last week, 32cad each pretty crazy deal.

first is a Westgate BBS

second is just generic and unknown woodshop with VERY steep kicks

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The lazering on the second reminds me of Dailan Huahong boards and I believe that Girl G008 shape is the same dimensons or simliar.

Which generic graphic did you get on the Element board? On some of their online listings they mention BBS:
https://www.elementbrand.com/natural-defense-sascha-skateboard-deck-194844098979.html

I like that they list the length, WB, nose and tail measurements if you click "See Size Guide", under Key 1 or Key 2. Key 1 looks like BBS dimensions, Key 2 are China deck dimensions

Team logo boards are a mix, some listed as "7-ply maple wood" spome listed as "built by BBS"
https://www.elementbrand.com/element-x-bob-ross-happy-in-this-world-skateboard-deck-194844160287.html
https://www.elementbrand.com/timber-%257c-late-bloomers-bygone-skateboard-deck-194844160072.html#cgid=skate_skateboards_decks&start=8&hitcount=147

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on November 14, 2022, 08:42:17 PM

Quote from: somedudefromnj on November 14, 2022, 05:36:38 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on October 17, 2022, 03:45:24 AM

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Sure is wild to think of their journey, from what seemed like pretty much the top woodshop in the industry back around 2000 to now with people talking about so many issues and ongoing problems.

Thinking back, that all those Black Label PS Stix boards I used to ride over twenty years ago were pretty much the best boards I had ever skated, back when I actually went hard and really made the most of what I had, even riding some of the older PS Stix boards I still have that are still so stiff and good, so the product from back then really was "the good stuff" so to speak.

I might have seen and skated up to ten PS Stix boards in recent years, all from other people and most still seemed fairly decent and defect free, but I know others I have skated with have had a few issues and don't want to ride their wood any more, as well as seeing some pics and funny things as mentioned.


Any which way, if they work for you, no worries, but if they don't because of manufacturing issues or look poorly finished, that is more something to take pics of and send to the brand / local distro or whoever to check and sort out under a valid warranty claim, but even saying that, I know sometimes it is easier to just give it away or focus it and go elsewhere for better boards.

A bit different working in a shop environment and seeing so many boards come through from various brands and distros but even then, it is hard not to notice some things like that and wonder what is going on.

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I feel like Schmidt is doing it on purpose. Videos keep popping up of him saying "you want the give that keeps giving" meaning the wood giving

He likens it to a spring that you pre-load and then it flexes back and gives you more pop.

I will say that the highest ollies I have done in the last few years were on a Clutch made deck that was a bit flexy and snapped quicker than any other deck in the same time period. 

The PS I skated during that time had mellow tails and that took away some height.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 10:04:52 PM

Quote from: Basingstoke on November 14, 2022, 03:18:29 PM

Quote from: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 02:54:54 PM

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Got 2 decks from Element sale last week, 32cad each pretty crazy deal.

first is a Westgate BBS

second is just generic and unknown woodshop with VERY steep kicks

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The lazering on the second reminds me of Dailan Huahong boards and I believe that Girl G008 shape is the same dimensons or simliar.

I was hoping since they were both the same measurements on their website that they would both be BBS but it looks like all the BBS boards are clearly labeled and mostly pro models.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 10:13:23 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 14, 2022, 06:35:23 PM

Quote from: Basingstoke on November 14, 2022, 03:18:29 PM

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Quote from: Whicker on November 14, 2022, 02:54:54 PM

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Got 2 decks from Element sale last week, 32cad each pretty crazy deal.

first is a Westgate BBS

second is just generic and unknown woodshop with VERY steep kicks

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The lazering on the second reminds me of Dailan Huahong boards and I believe that Girl G008 shape is the same dimensons or simliar.

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Which generic graphic did you get on the Element board? On some of their online listings they mention BBS:
https://www.elementbrand.com/natural-defense-sascha-skateboard-deck-194844098979.html

I like that they list the length, WB, nose and tail measurements if you click "See Size Guide"

It was this one.
https://www.elementbrand.com/en-ca/pearl-wwfe-skateboard-deck-194844150202.html

It looks WAY different in person. It is dipped red with no wood grain visible. The pearl is just green ish paint and the gold is pretty dull. Kinda bummed on it but the GF likes the red so w.e. its hers now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on November 15, 2022, 12:22:01 AM

“its giving wood”
-Paul “The Professor” Schmitt

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 17, 2022, 10:27:03 PM

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I found this thread interesting, PS Stix offering blanks (minimum 50 decks), everything else shown in the thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124290.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 18, 2022, 04:15:07 AM

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Thank you guys!!!

* Post below in total from the PS Stix thread


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124290.0

Quote from: Sketch Hitchcock on November 17, 2022, 03:39:21 PM

Anyone reach out yet / know more specifics about costs etc?

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“It’s On! Make it a reality, new minimums for new opportunities.

Our new minimum of 50 decks include options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs. each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program.

Contact our customer service team to get started.
: [email protected]“

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_R2WvpFOq/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_Qc1lpDlR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 18, 2022, 04:16:14 AM

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Thank you guys!!!

* Post below in total from the PS Stix thread


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124290.0

Quote from: zozu on November 17, 2022, 07:13:49 PM

the pdf they sent me

(https://i.ibb.co/LvC0Jb7/New-Project.png) (https://ibb.co/t3bHxkr)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 06:18:36 AM

Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 08:02:54 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 06:18:36 AM

Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

Source? Do you think it was in response to PS Stix going public with their low MOQs?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 19, 2022, 08:15:52 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 08:02:54 AM

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Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

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Source? Do you think it was in response to PS Stix going public with their low MOQs?

They did say in that press release when they were bought last year, expansion into global markets was the plan

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 08:59:09 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 08:02:54 AM

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Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

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Source? Do you think it was in response to PS Stix going public with their low MOQs?

i press boards there and i'm currently planning a run
it's not in response to PS Stix, orders are so scarce worldwide, they just want to make their factories run

Anyone knows if individuals can order at PS Stix ? I guess it's only B2B, right ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 09:21:25 AM

Quote from: TwisT on November 19, 2022, 08:15:52 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 08:02:54 AM

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Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

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Source? Do you think it was in response to PS Stix going public with their low MOQs?

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They did say in that press release when they were bought last year, expansion into global markets was the plan

You mean for HLC ?
Nah, low MOQs are just consequences of COVID, war on Ukraine and an emerging (or consolidating) economic / energy crisis.
Too much preordering, stagnating market, overstock at shops and distributors. All skateboarding related manufactures are running slow worldwide
It might start to get dirty for small brands, shops, etc.
And you already see some every man for himself moves (FA sale, Junkyard sale, distributors going the B2C route and screwing shops, etc)

Kicking Putin's ass would be a good start and might help change the mood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 19, 2022, 08:31:03 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 08:59:09 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on November 19, 2022, 08:02:54 AM

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Minimum at HLC went from 100 to 30

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Source? Do you think it was in response to PS Stix going public with their low MOQs?

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i press boards there and i'm currently planning a run
it's not in response to PS Stix, orders are so scarce worldwide, they just want to make their factories run

Anyone knows if individuals can order at PS Stix ? I guess it's only B2B, right ?

I would imagine if it is anything like here in AU, all I had to do is apply for an ABN (Australian Business Number) which was free, then had access to order from wholesalers.

It might be the same sort of deal, or might be even easier than that over there in USA.


Compared to trying to order existing brand name product (eg Indy, Spitfire, or other top brands) from some distributors, which is a lot harder, having to prove you have a shop, business or something else, especially a physical location and not just an online store, most places that supply blanks for your brand will pretty much allow anything as long as you have the cash up front for it, including any random kid's dad, or other person who knows nothing about skateboards, to the local guy at the park who always wanted to start his own brand.  So many people have been getting in on it in the last few years, even more so than the last two decades, it seems.

I guess every place is different, but that is my experience here anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 20, 2022, 11:08:52 AM

The new roger run is on BBS. Hopefully they keep it that way.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: goldfishboot on November 22, 2022, 08:25:08 AM

hello! I was curious if anyone has firsthand experience buying boards from any of the boutique/garage/basement manufacturers out there. maybe this post would be suitable for a separate thread? dunno. think Wouldshop, Pretty Rad, Searat, GGI. (still around?)

I love the passion that goes into these decks and often they make super insane shapes that no one else does - resources or firsthand experience would be incredibly useful for me (I am not a rich man)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: iw0 on November 22, 2022, 11:38:07 AM

Quote from: Esmith5488 on November 20, 2022, 11:08:52 AM

The new roger run is on BBS. Hopefully they keep it that way.

they seem very stoked to be on bbs, so yeah hopefully staying that way

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 22, 2022, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: goldfishboot on November 22, 2022, 08:25:08 AM

hello! I was curious if anyone has firsthand experience buying boards from any of the boutique/garage/basement manufacturers out there. maybe this post would be suitable for a separate thread? dunno. think Wouldshop, Pretty Rad, Searat, GGI. (still around?)

I love the passion that goes into these decks and often they make super insane shapes that no one else does - resources or firsthand experience would be incredibly useful for me (I am not a rich man)

Quite ok asking here, as I usually check things and keep an eye on what is going on elsewhere too.

The BLANKS thread is a hard one to find as the name has spaces in it B L A N K S so often doesn't come up on searches like other things.

Link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113993.0


I thought there was another one somewhere too, but right now I can't think of where it ended up, DIY board thread or something...


Edit

Found it:


DIY Board graphics, but a lot on DIY boards too.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=48527.840

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 23, 2022, 10:27:27 AM

Just got a new Theories board with a strange marking. 
It's egg shaped, and I know they've been on BBS but where the dimple normally is theres a TI
(https://i.imgur.com/kygdeyW.png?1)
I know clutch does a letter and a number but I checked their website and they dont seem to have anything that matches the shape, or letter markings.
This is the shape-(https://i.imgur.com/p543Kc9.png)
I've bought another Theories board within the last month that had the normal BBS marking, not sure why they'd go elsewhere for this one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 23, 2022, 02:52:54 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on November 23, 2022, 10:27:27 AM

Just got a new Theories board with a strange marking. 
It's egg shaped, and I know they've been on BBS but where the dimple normally is theres a TI

I know clutch does a letter and a number but I checked their website and they dont seem to have anything that matches the shape, or letter markings.
This is the shape-
I've bought another Theories board within the last month that had the normal BBS marking, not sure why they'd go elsewhere for this one.

My understanding of things, re pandemic shortages was Clutch was able to provide wood to many brands during the time when other woodshops could not keep up with production numbers and supply many of their smaller to medium level, or even some larger accounts with the required product, including the Theories brand, as per what other people had said.

I have also been told that Theories of Atlantis Distribution is one such company that gets blanks in significant numbers and uses their own in house heat transfer machine to put graphics on boards for some (not all) of the brands they distribute, so I could see that as being very possible that they still had a board in certain shapes that was from Clutch.


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/pages/toa-distribution

Purely guessing, but T1 could be a special Theories shape, given it doesn't seem like one that is available anywhere else.


All just thoughts though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 23, 2022, 05:02:44 PM

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A few updated - thanks for the info.

Nova World Order added.
Roger BBS noted.


A few others added to the info list as well.


11:11 Distribution
USA
https://www.1111dist.com/
https://www.instagram.com/1111distribution/



Woodsen
China
http://www.woodsenskateboard.com/
https://www.instagram.com/woodsen.skateboard.factory/



Some of you might get a real kick out of reading this page (about skateboard griptape):

http://www.woodsenskateboard.com/nd.jsp?id=6&fromColId=2



Anything else, please let me know.

You guys can post any pics, board tops, etc here as well, not a worry whatever, whoever, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on November 23, 2022, 05:57:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:09:11 AM

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Pennswood


No markings as far as I know.

Stiff, solid boards, steeper kicks, medium concave.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ERMAAOSwDsth9TuV/s-l1600.jpg)

Definitely something new here from Pennswood. Pennsylvania stamp plus deck size.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVCRQH4/4-D4-EBD2-A-F6-A9-4-B9-C-813-C-0-EA090018-B75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FVCRQH4)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 24, 2022, 08:44:39 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on November 23, 2022, 02:52:54 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on November 23, 2022, 10:27:27 AM

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Just got a new Theories board with a strange marking. 
It's egg shaped, and I know they've been on BBS but where the dimple normally is theres a TI

I know clutch does a letter and a number but I checked their website and they dont seem to have anything that matches the shape, or letter markings.
This is the shape-
I've bought another Theories board within the last month that had the normal BBS marking, not sure why they'd go elsewhere for this one.

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My understanding of things, re pandemic shortages was Clutch was able to provide wood to many brands during the time when other woodshops could not keep up with production numbers and supply many of their smaller to medium level, or even some larger accounts with the required product, including the Theories brand, as per what other people had said.

I have also been told that Theories of Atlantis Distribution is one such company that gets blanks in significant numbers and uses their own in house heat transfer machine to put graphics on boards for some (not all) of the brands they distribute, so I could see that as being very possible that they still had a board in certain shapes that was from Clutch.


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/pages/toa-distribution

Purely guessing, but T1 could be a special Theories shape, given it doesn't seem like one that is available anywhere else.


All just thoughts though.

That does make sense though!
Had hoped it was bbs but it still seems well constructed, so not the end of the world.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on December 08, 2022, 03:45:48 AM

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on November 23, 2022, 05:57:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:09:11 AM

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Pennswood


No markings as far as I know.

Stiff, solid boards, steeper kicks, medium concave.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ERMAAOSwDsth9TuV/s-l1600.jpg)

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Definitely something new here from Pennswood. Pennsylvania stamp plus deck size.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVCRQH4/4-D4-EBD2-A-F6-A9-4-B9-C-813-C-0-EA090018-B75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FVCRQH4)

You're saying scumco back on pennswood? Praise the lord

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on December 08, 2022, 06:25:32 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on December 08, 2022, 03:45:48 AM

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on November 23, 2022, 05:57:37 PM

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Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:09:11 AM

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Pennswood


No markings as far as I know.

Stiff, solid boards, steeper kicks, medium concave.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ERMAAOSwDsth9TuV/s-l1600.jpg)

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Definitely something new here from Pennswood. Pennsylvania stamp plus deck size.

(https://i.ibb.co/FVCRQH4/4-D4-EBD2-A-F6-A9-4-B9-C-813-C-0-EA090018-B75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FVCRQH4)

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You're saying scumco back on pennswood? Praise the lord

This is a deck from Spectrum.

Pretty sure that last Scumco drop is not Pennswood even though they are hydro dipped.  Haven't asked Scumco or the Radio shop Instagram about the decks but looks like Control still in the pics I've seen.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on December 08, 2022, 05:59:27 PM

Damn

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 08, 2022, 07:40:56 PM

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I was thinking things had settled down a fair bit now too, but I could be wrong.

Definitely way less in the way of changes in the second half of 2022 in brands using different woodshops than there were from 2019 through to 2021 anyway.


There are a few posts and threads I have seen lately which I will not link here, but it is interesting to see what people are saying about a few woodshops, be it good or bad.

I always try to keep this thread very much "Fact only" in what I post and add to listings, but of course there are always still some errors in the main lists on the first page, along with some opinions which are posted.  I get it though, everyone has their own experience with different boards.

Even between ten of the same board, I have had some that last ages and others that have lasted hours, most likely due to how they were skated more than anything else, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth if a board seems to go soggy, chips up easily or just straight up breaks when I didn't feel like I was doing anything break worthy on it.


As to certain people's like or dislike for certain woodshops, that too is not something I have issue with, but I do value having their reasons for it as well, not just comments like "This woodshop is great and this other one is shit" or something like that, which doesn't really help anyone.

At least people in USA generally get much more choice than someone in say EU or here in AU, but there are still differences in supply even between some of the top brands on different continents too, so if anyone notes something different or other than listed, please comment, add pics and other info, etc.

It is all greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 08, 2022, 09:40:32 PM

Anyone know where Damage skateboards gets their boards?

https://damagelimited.eu/

They are based out of Spain, their boards are listed as made in Mexico so Clutch is my guess. Those pressed in Generator will proudly state so.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 11, 2022, 03:11:27 AM

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King Skateboards thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124515.0

Quote from: veritas on December 09, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

Quote from: IpathCats on December 05, 2022, 12:34:14 PM

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anyone know what woodshop they use?

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PS Stix

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 18, 2022, 03:37:05 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 08, 2022, 09:40:32 PM

Anyone know where Damage skateboards gets their boards?

https://damagelimited.eu/

They are based out of Spain, their boards are listed as made in Mexico so Clutch is my guess. Those pressed in Generator will proudly state so.

Seems like a few other DGK remakes / clothing companies with gangsta looks and some boards on the side from more recent pics, but going back in their Instagram feed, it was all skateboarding from their beginnings, posts from 2013 at least.


Reminded me of you with this one - forbidden 14 and all that.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CXBKqN-MG5I/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 18, 2022, 04:23:32 PM

Quote from: Plan9Customs on December 17, 2022, 09:33:28 AM

Quote from: TastyBurrito on December 16, 2022, 10:29:23 PM

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Got gifted one of Gurney’s new decks. Pretty rad shape kind of a cross between a sweatpants and street thing.
(https://i.postimg.cc/K8vnLdBc/43-F0509-D-4-D3-F-4314-8-F26-419-EC8-AE785-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzShHD1W)

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Dimensions? Also, who presses them. That board looks like a fun shape/size.

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9.625w 14.5wb 6.5”n 6.625”t
It’s ps wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 18, 2022, 05:36:19 PM

Embark skate shop in Frederick, Maryland (former Pit Crew) gets their shop decks from Clutch. They look great, too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 19, 2022, 02:38:17 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 18, 2022, 05:36:19 PM

Embark skate shop in Frederick, Maryland (former Pit Crew) gets their shop decks from Clutch. They look great, too.

Thanks!

Added to the shop boards list on the first page.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: burner on December 19, 2022, 04:44:21 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 11, 2022, 03:11:27 AM

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King Skateboards thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124515.0

Quote from: veritas on December 09, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

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Quote from: IpathCats on December 05, 2022, 12:34:14 PM

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anyone know what woodshop they use?

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PS Stix

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That's interesting, guess that Tyshawn skates PS (and FA used to be PS) now that King is also PS wood. And Nyjah also skates PS with his brand (and always did on Element). So for all the poo pooing of PS, two of the best skaters doing the craziest shit are choosing PS. I'm glad to see it too, there's so much BBS out there, good to see some more PS brands coming up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 19, 2022, 08:57:28 PM

Quote from: burner on December 19, 2022, 04:44:21 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 11, 2022, 03:11:27 AM

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King Skateboards thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124515.0

Quote from: veritas on December 09, 2022, 05:11:41 PM

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Quote from: IpathCats on December 05, 2022, 12:34:14 PM

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anyone know what woodshop they use?

[close]

PS Stix

[close]

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That's interesting, guess that Tyshawn skates PS (and FA used to be PS) now that King is also PS wood. And Nyjah also skates PS with his brand (and always did on Element). So for all the poo pooing of PS, two of the best skaters doing the craziest shit are choosing PS. I'm glad to see it too, there's so much BBS out there, good to see some more PS brands coming up.

Or maybe since PSSTIX already has their shapes and molds, just go with a product that was already exist then have to recreate it at another wood shop

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 27, 2022, 05:32:12 PM

Looks like Blockhead is using Would Shop in Montana for a few if its decks, though most are still Watson.

https://blockheadskateboards.com/collections/featured-goods/products/hard-times-6-reissue-modern-8-8-one-of-a-kind-customs

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: jerrygurneyscream on December 29, 2022, 06:56:01 AM

POPMASTER Innovations (Robbie gangemi)
Hardbody
Project Asteroid
Swan Common

All i know of for that one, Used to do Orchard, now those are being produced by the people that bought all the old chapman equipment.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 29, 2022, 02:52:00 PM

Quote from: jerrygurneyscream on December 29, 2022, 06:56:01 AM

POPMASTER Innovations (Robbie gangemi)
Hardbody
Project Asteroid
Swan Common

All i know of for that one, Used to do Orchard, now those are being produced by the people that bought all the old chapman equipment.

Thanks!


Another woodshop to add to the list.


https://www.instagram.com/popmasterinnovation/


Not much more info out there at all is there?



https://www.instagram.com/p/CKXXOSlFlgu/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CakRn-PFOuM/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 29, 2022, 02:56:58 PM

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Vehicle skateboards


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaiAJIxPVnK/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 01, 2023, 11:28:13 PM

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Playing catch up on a few fronts, but I should pull my finger out and get some more pics and things together on the first page again.


Welcome to 2023 - changed the header, but it is still all the same info.


Any changes, additions, fixes, or whatever else, just post away...


Thank you to all Slap pals and users past and present for their help in making this thread what it is.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on January 02, 2023, 08:07:46 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 01, 2023, 11:28:13 PM

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Playing catch up on a few fronts, but I should pull my finger out and get some more pics and things together on the first page again.


Welcome to 2023 - changed the header, but it is still all the same info.


Any changes, additions, fixes, or whatever else, just post away...


Thank you to all Slap pals and users past and present for their help in making this thread what it is.

Thank you for shepherding this for as long as you have!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 02, 2023, 11:20:08 AM

Saw this on the Girl x Sanrio Kawaii Arcade release

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1059549971495538798/PXL_20230102_191250788.jpg)

The decks themselves look like the usual China ones with the same branding on the top ply (Designed In Torrance, CA, etc) but the placard says "Made in Mexico"

It's probably an oversight, but it'd be interesting to confirm that Girl moved (at least most of) their production to Mexico.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Síota on January 02, 2023, 11:29:02 AM

I'm sure everyone knows but Grimple Stix are not listed (BBS). Not even sure they are a real brand but Frank rules.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 03, 2023, 02:45:31 PM

Quote from: Síota on January 02, 2023, 11:29:02 AM

I'm sure everyone knows but Grimple Stix are not listed (BBS). Not even sure they are a real brand but Frank rules.

You know, that is something I thought about a while back but never actually did.

Thanks for the reminder.

Added, as well as everything else from this page updated now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 03, 2023, 02:48:26 PM

Quote from: yourbreakfsat on January 02, 2023, 11:20:08 AM

Saw this on the Girl x Sanrio Kawaii Arcade release


The decks themselves look like the usual China ones with the same branding on the top ply (Designed In Torrance, CA, etc) but the placard says "Made in Mexico"

It's probably an oversight, but it'd be interesting to confirm that Girl moved (at least most of) their production to Mexico.

That is an interesting one - could be as you said, printing oversight, or something else.

Crail had used PS Stix before for some boards.

They also could have been doing limited runs of the colab boards, more so for the local market, but either way, it is different from their normal boards, made in China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on January 03, 2023, 03:35:28 PM

I could see this for limited stuff that’s time sensitive….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 17, 2023, 04:20:16 AM

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I came across another woodshop and veneer supplier in EU, this one in Germany.

Something might have been put up in the DIY board thread, or somewhere else, but I couldn't find it when I checked.


skatewood.eu
Skatewood.eu was founded recently to support the DIY szene !! We offer high qualitiy canadian maple veneer, and handmade products made out of it.
https://www.skatewood.eu/
https://www.instagram.com/skatewood.eu/



https://www.instagram.com/p/CftnmdtsbIy/


https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MtT3foRrr/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 17, 2023, 04:36:23 AM

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This one not quite woodshop, but this guy makes his own boards, one at a time kind of thing, which is pretty cool.



https://www.instagram.com/boarderwerk/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccdt40jr_uD/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXWR0-IscxX/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 22, 2023, 04:05:08 PM

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Another one I came across, from UK making boards.

https://www.instagram.com/gabba_gabba_skates/

GABBA GABBA SKATES
Artist
Individually pressed hand shaped decks. Long glue and cure time. Steep n deep profile. Any shape upto 12x35" Max WB 16.25" Message me for prices.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl9a3oHMf2c/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 23, 2023, 07:09:27 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

https://www.tactics.com/there/marbie-slow-song-85-marbie-custom-shape-skateboard-deck

the marbie shapes says 32.2 so its almost there.
Tactics.com can sort by width and wheelbase, but not length.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2023, 05:43:56 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

So you are looking for fairly long boards, medium to short wheelbases with longer kicks?


I think there are quite a few in that category, but more than anything, if you drilled back the tail on some boards, I think you would have pretty much those dimensions.

Overly long boards usually have overly long wheelbases to match, sometimes with big kicks, but more often than not they have kicks that are more nomal, 6.5 to 6.6 tails and 7 or so noses.


A board with 32.5 length and shorter wheelbase is going to have 7.1 or more nose and 6.75 or more tail.


At first glance, without having to change anything, have you tried Alien Workshop 8.75 boards, 14.25 wb and long kicks with a fairly long overall length.  I have one here that almost feels too long and wide when compared to other similar width boards with longer wheelbases and maybe more proportionate dimensions, but that might be a good start anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: uri80 on January 24, 2023, 07:13:00 AM

Manufacturers / Woodshops that DO NOT make their own boards but resell others list:

MSB Distribution (Barcelona, Spain)
https://www.msbdistribution.es
https://www.instagram.com/msbdistribution/

 ;)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on January 24, 2023, 08:48:53 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 23, 2023, 05:43:56 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

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can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

[close]

So you are looking for fairly long boards, medium to short wheelbases with longer kicks?


I think there are quite a few in that category, but more than anything, if you drilled back the tail on some boards, I think you would have pretty much those dimensions.

Overly long boards usually have overly long wheelbases to match, sometimes with big kicks, but more often than not they have kicks that are more nomal, 6.5 to 6.6 tails and 7 or so noses.


A board with 32.5 length and shorter wheelbase is going to have 7.1 or more nose and 6.75 or more tail.


At first glance, without having to change anything, have you tried Alien Workshop 8.75 boards, 14.25 wb and long kicks with a fairly long overall length.  I have one here that almost feels too long and wide when compared to other similar width boards with longer wheelbases and maybe more proportionate dimensions, but that might be a good start anyway.

right on the money.  i need to grab one of the AWS decks, thanks dude!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: spacial_profiling on January 24, 2023, 11:19:27 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 23, 2023, 07:09:27 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

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can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

[close]

https://www.tactics.com/there/marbie-slow-song-85-marbie-custom-shape-skateboard-deck

the marbie shapes says 32.2 so its almost there.
Tactics.com can sort by width and wheelbase, but not length.

The 33x8.5 Quasi

Edit: 14.5 WB but with PS inconsistency could get lucky ha. I've skated these.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on January 24, 2023, 01:21:59 PM

Quote from: spacial_profiling on January 24, 2023, 11:19:27 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 23, 2023, 07:09:27 AM

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Quote from: shawngreg on January 23, 2023, 03:33:40 AM

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can anyone tell me some boards that would have the following

larger than 8.5, smaller than 9
32.5 or longer
wb under 14.5

[close]

https://www.tactics.com/there/marbie-slow-song-85-marbie-custom-shape-skateboard-deck

the marbie shapes says 32.2 so its almost there.
Tactics.com can sort by width and wheelbase, but not length.

[close]

The 33x8.5 Quasi

Edit: 14.5 WB but with PS inconsistency could get lucky ha. I've skated these.

Don’t forget PS measures surface length so it’s probably closer to ~32.6 relative to how other board companies measure. Still within the desired 32.5 and up length, but I thought it was worth noting.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on January 24, 2023, 02:35:25 PM

i skated the shorter 8.5 quasi almost exclusively when the proto came out, i forgot they even had the other shape.  good looks to everyone above who helped!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on January 26, 2023, 07:41:22 AM

For anyone interested, and who may be a fan of South Central wood like I am.  Here is a (Square Tail) shape from them that Highwater Skateboards uses, figured I'd catalog it here.
(https://i.imgur.com/HSy0JsL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/n5JkGy8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e6ZvLAx.jpg)
Dims are 8.5" at the widest
              31.5" L
              8.375"  front truck
              8.125"  back truck
              14.25" WB
I was a little surprised when I got it as I was expecting more of their standard 8.5 popsicle shape with a squared tail but it's definitely more shaped and tapered than that, smaller too.  Anyway, I couldn't find much info on dims for it so figured I'd add it here now that I have it. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 26, 2023, 08:06:02 PM

.

Such rad graphics too!

Thanks for posting.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 26, 2023, 08:14:50 PM

Quote from: commander jameson on January 26, 2023, 01:30:40 AM

The latest batch of Habitat decks sold in EU have made in china stickers.

I saw that on latest Suciu Lone Wolf and Mosaic 20 Years twin decks.
Those decks seems bit wider than older BBS pressed Habitat twin decks, like they are 8.375x32.3 with 14.44wb (declared dimensions are 8.375x32.25 with 14.375wb), with very slight taper to square nose and tail, noses are still like 1-2 mm longer than tail (nose and tail are like 6.9-7 long), bit mellower kicks than on BBS pressed decks.

Older Habitat BBS pressed twin tail decks were 8.3x32.2 with 14.44 wb with straight full rails, square nose and tail are around 6.9. Deck dimensions are little bit shorter and narrower than stated on Habitat site (8.375x32.25 with 14.375wb, sometimes it was said that wb was 14.25).

Like old Stefan Janoski Place Setting series deck that comes with made in Mexico sticker was declared as 8.375x32.25 with 14.25wb, no mention of deck being symmetrical in descriptions and deck actual dimensions were 8.3x32.2 with 14.44wb and deck is twin shaped.

If you are able always try to check those decks in person because specs seems to be all over the place.

Copy / quote from the Twin tail thread.

Thanks for the info too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: goodatmeth on January 29, 2023, 10:18:51 AM

Does anybody know who makes bold decks? Or what bold laminates is, in case they make it themselves?

This german shop sells their blank decks and those decks are actually really damn good.

https://www.skateshop24.de/skateboards/blank-decks/ (https://www.skateshop24.de/skateboards/blank-decks/)

There's a list with all specs if you click on any of them and scroll down

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 29, 2023, 04:53:48 PM

Quote from: goodatmeth on January 29, 2023, 10:18:51 AM

Does anybody know who makes bold decks? Or what bold laminates is, in case they make it themselves?

This german shop sells their blank decks and those decks are actually really damn good.

https://www.skateshop24.de/skateboards/blank-decks/ (https://www.skateshop24.de/skateboards/blank-decks/)

There's a list with all specs if you click on any of them and scroll down

It is an interesting one to try to find any info on so most likely they "branded" the blanks they get in to give them a bit more of a name as the same place gets in Moose, Control and others too.

They appear to be something similar to Dwindle, maybe Jeeping or more likely Excel woodshop, as they say from China and they are the main ones there, but I really don't know any more about them.


This looks like who brings them in, pretty much all the same info there too:

https://www.havoc-distribution.com/b2b/skateboard/blank-decks/bold-laminates/2441/bold-sp-blank-skateboard-deck-mid


Bold SP Blank Skateboard Deck Low
The blank decks from BOLD Laminates are high-quality skateboard decks made from 7 plies of Canadian maple.
This wood, also known as "Canadian maple" in English, has always been the most suitable wood for skateboards due to its stability and durability.
The boards from BOLD Laminates are individually pressed (single-press). This gives each board the perfect and always the same shape. The wood layers are cold-pressed with ultra-strong epoxy resin.
The slow drying of the adhesive without the addition of heat results in boards with an extremely powerful and, above all, long-lasting pop. As one of the largest woodshops in China, the skateboards from a number of well-known manufacturers from the USA are also produced here.
The boards come with 3 colored stained layers, top, middle and bottom. It looks really good and gives the boards a classy touch. The colors of the colored layers are randomly selected and cannot be selected individually.

7ply canadian maple
single pressed
cold-pressed
epoxy resin
3 stained layers
random colors
Low / mellow concave 10mm
Nose 22°
Tail 22°

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 03, 2023, 08:21:52 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

I had seen some of the pricepoint boards were the cheaper looking wood made in China, but that was here in AU.

Where in the world are you, even just country?


Are they on the AWS site?

https://www.alienworkshop.com/


I think the few I saw were very basic / generic graphics and different even to the team boards from the web site, as they didn't have any on there that I thought were not BBS.

More like the boards that come as completes with those graphics too, but just the decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 03, 2023, 08:38:57 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

Funny that a lot of these came up in a search just now.

Not doubting they were the real deal, but I have seen an increase in a lot of this sort of thing, mainly in a few places that couldn't or wouldn't be able to get usual stock from legitimate skateboard brand wholesalers, but sometimes it is surprising where they turn up, not just the randoms on ebay or dodgy sellers online.


Fake Alien Workshop decks from Ali whatever...


(https://i.ibb.co/r6hbyFt/Alien-Workshop-Fake-decks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cF9bTkv)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 03, 2023, 09:12:44 PM

It’s pretty fucked that you can’t trust some of these factories to not do deals on the side.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 03, 2023, 09:17:24 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

Got a pic on the made in china sticker?

Edit - good Intel on the fake Alien Workshop board, those haven't popped up on AliExpress on my region, lots of Baker, Plan B, Crailtap, Tum Yeto and Zero

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: switchfakie on February 03, 2023, 09:19:30 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

i thought bbs was half china/ half mexico ? dont quote me on that

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on February 04, 2023, 02:33:09 AM

Quote from: switchfakie on February 03, 2023, 09:19:30 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

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I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

[close]

i thought bbs was half china/ half mexico ? dont quote me on that

to my knowledge it's mexico only
DLX completes decks are china made though

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on February 04, 2023, 05:26:34 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 03, 2023, 09:17:24 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

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I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

[close]

Got a pic on the made in china sticker?

Edit - good Intel on the fake Alien Workshop board, those haven't popped up on AliExpress on my region, lots of Baker, Plan B, Crailtap, Tum Yeto and Zero

(https://i.ibb.co/bF44TVZ/075-B664-B-E06-A-48-B2-837-E-5796-C9435-A5-E.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 06:39:32 AM

Thanks for the pic, that looks like a legit AWS deck and sticker, the fakes from China can't be bothered with a barcode sticker.

The last team model I rode was an 8.5 with the laser top markings, any laser on yours?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on February 04, 2023, 08:41:30 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 06:39:32 AM

Thanks for the pic, that looks like a legit AWS deck and sticker, the fakes from China can't be bothered with a barcode sticker.

The last team model I rode was an 8.5 with the laser top markings, any laser on yours?

I didn’t cop, but if I recall correctly, the deck did have the etching.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2023, 04:51:00 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on February 04, 2023, 02:33:09 AM

Quote from: switchfakie on February 03, 2023, 09:19:30 PM

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Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

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I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

[close]

i thought bbs was half china/ half mexico ? dont quote me on that

[close]

to my knowledge it's mexico only
DLX completes decks are china made though

BBS woodshop is only the one location in Mexico, by all accounts.

Lots of companies that use BBS as their pro wood also use price point wood from China for their boards, or are even transitioning to China boards for everything for some countries / regions.

The list is quite long and includes Alien Workshop, Birdhouse, Element, DGK and more here in AU from what I can recall, or have seen.


As to completes for almost all companies now from what I have seen, the complete, deck and all are made in China and totally different to the quality of the pro decks that come out of which ever woodshops for them.

They still skate fine for beginners, but I wouldn't be putting anyone with above beginner ability on one and expect it to last that long.


Explaining this to the parent who brought back a specifiic "pro" brand deck whose kid snapped it in the first session was less than fun, but the parent got it in the end - buy a cheaper complete even with said logo of pro company on it for the same price as a pro deck so what would you expect to happen?

I still have some of those same completes that were used for skate lessons and they have lasted a long time, so for the right market they are really good, but the most unfortunate thing is when a board clearly has an eagle logo, or the BAKER bold logo, among others, people can be deceived and think they are getting something better than what it is.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 04, 2023, 04:55:35 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 03, 2023, 09:12:44 PM

It’s pretty fucked that you can’t trust some of these factories to not do deals on the side.

Quote from: rocklobster on February 03, 2023, 09:17:24 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

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I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

[close]

Got a pic on the made in china sticker?

Edit - good Intel on the fake Alien Workshop board, those haven't popped up on AliExpress on my region, lots of Baker, Plan B, Crailtap, Tum Yeto and Zero

As Twist said, some of these might not even be "fake" boards but just their own overstock of what was ordered for whatever market, that also make it on to whatever platform like Ali x x x  as per that pic.

There were quite a few that I could see, different / team graphics mostly, but some specific older pro graphics too, so who knows.


That one as per the pic is or would be a legit deck, just curious where in the world you saw it?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on February 04, 2023, 08:04:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 04, 2023, 04:55:35 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 03, 2023, 09:12:44 PM

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It’s pretty fucked that you can’t trust some of these factories to not do deals on the side.

[close]

Quote from: rocklobster on February 03, 2023, 09:17:24 PM

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Quote from: PatrickSkateman on February 03, 2023, 04:57:04 PM

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I looked at an Alien board in a shop today, and the sticker on the shrink wrap said made in China. The board still felt like a BBS though.

I’m hoping this is just for team models.

[close]

Got a pic on the made in china sticker?

Edit - good Intel on the fake Alien Workshop board, those haven't popped up on AliExpress on my region, lots of Baker, Plan B, Crailtap, Tum Yeto and Zero

[close]

As Twist said, some of these might not even be "fake" boards but just their own overstock of what was ordered for whatever market, that also make it on to whatever platform like Ali x x x  as per that pic.

There were quite a few that I could see, different / team graphics mostly, but some specific older pro graphics too, so who knows.


That one as per the pic is or would be a legit deck, just curious where in the world you saw it?

East Coast U.S.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 06:55:21 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

IIRC the Thomas Morgan flag slick reissue was DSM as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 05, 2023, 07:37:22 AM

Quote from: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 06:55:21 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

[close]

IIRC the Thomas Morgan flag slick reissue was DSM as well.

This one? https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-8-25

Looks like it has the black and white BBS Made in Mexico sticker

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 08:17:39 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 05, 2023, 07:37:22 AM

Quote from: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 06:55:21 AM

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Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

[close]

IIRC the Thomas Morgan flag slick reissue was DSM as well.

[close]

This one? https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-8-25

Looks like it has the black and white BBS Made in Mexico sticker

Nah, the reissue in the 90s shape:
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-9-25 (https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-9-25)

The pop is BBS, but the shaped slick didn't have any of the telltale BBS markings or stickers and looked/felt like a Santa Cruz ever slick. Guessing they had them made at DSM. No shrink so I couldn't see a made in china barcode.

Also I someone here was selling one a while back and outright said it was DSM.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank and Fred on February 06, 2023, 08:32:11 PM

Had no idea JT Aultz works for BBS.

He breaks down some wood shop deets with the 9Club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSftDo5xw28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSftDo5xw28)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: blahblah999 on February 07, 2023, 11:46:46 AM

Quote from: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 08:17:39 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 05, 2023, 07:37:22 AM

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Quote from: Nacho Maildrop on February 05, 2023, 06:55:21 AM

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Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

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IIRC the Thomas Morgan flag slick reissue was DSM as well.

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This one? https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-8-25

Looks like it has the black and white BBS Made in Mexico sticker

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Nah, the reissue in the 90s shape:
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-9-25 (https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/morgan-flag-9-25)

The pop is BBS, but the shaped slick didn't have any of the telltale BBS markings or stickers and looked/felt like a Santa Cruz ever slick. Guessing they had them made at DSM. No shrink so I couldn't see a made in china barcode.

Also I someone here was selling one a while back and outright said it was DSM.

I emailed AWS and asked about the Morgan reissue. They said it was China made. Hard pass for me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on February 09, 2023, 07:34:41 PM

Just noticed the newest run of Zero is listed on their site as resin 7 , so I guess back to DSM. I think they bounce back and forth between BBS and China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2023, 08:17:36 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on February 09, 2023, 07:34:41 PM

Just noticed the newest run of Zero is listed on their site as resin 7 , so I guess back to DSM. I think they bounce back and forth between BBS and China.

If it just comes down to price, one extra dollar in price rise per board can definitely make a big difference to the bottom line of any board brand.

Can easily understand why some companies are going with cheaper options for their wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 10, 2023, 08:19:51 AM

Any idea who does Tightbooth? They're from Japan, so probably DSM like Evisen?

https://shop.tightbooth.com/?mode=cate&csid=0&cbid=2818764&sort=n
(https://img07.shop-pro.jp/PA01395/432/product/171692246_o7.jpg?cmsp_timestamp=20221125170547)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 10, 2023, 04:41:52 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 10, 2023, 08:19:51 AM

Any idea who does Tightbooth? They're from Japan, so probably DSM like Evisen?

Not that it would have any relevance, but those stickers look a lot like another brand that uses an "unknown" woodshop in China, but from seeing all those close up pics, it could easily be HLC as well.

Similar looking concave too, as in lots of fingers of flat before the curve of the kicks.

All of that could be totally shot down though, because until you stand on it or feel it out, it would be very hard to determine.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on February 11, 2023, 03:10:06 AM

Just had a closer look at the ones i have at the shop right now. No hint on the tops but i put them side to side with some Evisen decks.
Wood looks / feels exactly the same as Evisen's
I could match identical shapes (dims and concaves)
Similar laser itching at the front truck holes, similar slightly over the top top printings (i love it)
For what it's worth (not much), both brands come through the same distribution here in France.
I would bet my money on DSM
Definitely don't look / feel like HLC

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Basingstoke on February 11, 2023, 12:53:10 PM

I believe that In the New issue of Free Skate Mag in his interview Ryuhei Kitazume mentions that Tightbooth are making boards, might be a mis-translation/misphrasing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 11, 2023, 05:04:18 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on February 11, 2023, 03:10:06 AM

Just had a closer look at the ones i have at the shop right now. No hint on the tops but i put them side to side with some Evisen decks.
Wood looks / feels exactly the same as Evisen's
I could match identical shapes (dims and concaves)
Similar laser itching at the front truck holes, similar slightly over the top top printings (i love it)
For what it's worth (not much), both brands come through the same distribution here in France.
I would bet my money on DSM
Definitely don't look / feel like HLC

Ha yeah, nothing is better than having one in your hands to be able to check over and see what it looks and feels like.

Another one to add to the list.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 11, 2023, 05:07:34 PM

Quote from: Frank and Fred on February 06, 2023, 08:32:11 PM

Had no idea JT Aultz works for BBS.

He breaks down some wood shop deets with the 9Club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSftDo5xw28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSftDo5xw28)

I finally had enough time to watch all of this and it is pretty interesting with the woodshop info.

JT seems pretty chilled and they go a bit hard at him sometimes, but he held up well and didn't give away any trade secrets with regard to BBS, so I feel like it was a good watch, both for the woodshop info and about him personally.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 02:34:27 PM

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Re Alien Workshop, Habitat and Metal Skateboards wood info 2023, as per other post in different thread:

Quote from: commander jameson on February 14, 2023, 01:36:13 AM

Depends where in the world you are.

In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck

Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.

China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.

For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.

Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on February 14, 2023, 02:54:15 PM

Does anyone know the dimensions for standard BBS popsicle shapes that companies like The Heated Wheel (I’m told) use for their boards?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 03:27:25 PM

Quote from: Sketch Hitchcock on February 14, 2023, 02:54:15 PM

Does anyone know the dimensions for standard BBS popsicle shapes that companies like The Heated Wheel (I’m told) use for their boards?

The very first issue of an 8.38 I thought was the same as the DLX and other boards, when I saw one, but it seems like they are shorter now, or at least shorter wheelbase.

Not sure about the other sizes, but I think someone (maybe you) had asked in another thread and I didn't see any response.

What size were you after?



I saw you started the Heated Wheel thread when I went looking, so I can also post there if I do find more info on board sizes, dimensions, etc.


Heated Wheel thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125033.0



Edit:


Two shops I know that also list dimensions have quite a few of their boards:


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/collections/the-heated-wheel-1


https://www.basementskate.com.au/brands/the-heated-wheel/


Basement skate has the dimensions in the specs tab of each listing, in case it doesn't show up easily.

Eg


Width (inches)    8.25
Length (inches)    31.75
Wheelbase (inches)    14.25



Width (inches)    8.38
Length (inches)    32
Wheelbase (inches)    14.25



Width (inches)    8.5
Length (inches)    32
Wheelbase (inches)    14.375



Width (inches)    8.75
Length (inches)    32.375
Wheelbase (inches)    14.375


They were all normal popsicles at least.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on February 14, 2023, 03:39:45 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 03:27:25 PM

Quote from: Sketch Hitchcock on February 14, 2023, 02:54:15 PM

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Does anyone know the dimensions for standard BBS popsicle shapes that companies like The Heated Wheel (I’m told) use for their boards?

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The very first issue of an 8.38 I thought was the same as the DLX and other boards, when I saw one, but it seems like they are shorter now, or at least shorter wheelbase.

Not sure about the other sizes, but I think someone (maybe you) had asked in another thread and I didn't see any response.

What size were you after?



I saw you started the Heated Wheel thread when I went looking, so I can also post there if I do find more info on board sizes, dimensions, etc.


Heated Wheel thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125033.0



Edit:


Two shops I know that also list dimensions have quite a few of their boards:


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/collections/the-heated-wheel-1


https://www.basementskate.com.au/brands/the-heated-wheel/


Basement skate has the dimensions in the specs tab of each listing, in case it doesn't show up easily.

Eg


Width (inches)    8.25
Length (inches)    31.75
Wheelbase (inches)    14.25



Width (inches)    8.38
Length (inches)    32
Wheelbase (inches)    14.25

Thanks!  Super helpful!  Those dimensions Basement lists are helpful.  Have definitely been wanting to confirm some the wheel base / total lengths- and there has been some differing information depending on the skateshop - this clears it up for me!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Pasta Monster on February 14, 2023, 05:22:33 PM

Is the 8.25 shape with the square nose that Snack uses the 8.25 full from PS Stix? I’ve wanted one for a while but other brands look more like the 8.25 standard. Since Snack and WKND aren’t options locally, what’s a bigger brand that uses the same shape?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 05:15:16 PM

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I haven't watched it yet, but someone just sent me this:


* Probably already up somewhere, but it is the woodshop thread and this is relevant, so I am thinking this is NOT the first post of this on here.

Sure enough, more already here in the Ben DG thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124697.180




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GBLange on February 15, 2023, 08:42:34 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 05:15:16 PM

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I haven't watched it yet, but someone just sent me this:


* Probably already up somewhere, but it is the woodshop thread and this is relevant, so I am thinking this is NOT the first post of this on here.

Sure enough, more already here in the Ben DG thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124697.180




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU

julio now works with PsStix..i love his part in 1281 & Da deal is dead..armando barajas as well..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 09:05:58 PM

Quote from: GBLange on February 15, 2023, 08:42:34 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 05:15:16 PM

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I haven't watched it yet, but someone just sent me this:


* Probably already up somewhere, but it is the woodshop thread and this is relevant, so I am thinking this is NOT the first post of this on here.

Sure enough, more already here in the Ben DG thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124697.180

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julio now works with PsStix..i love his part in 1281 & Da deal is dead..armando barajas as well..

https://www.instagram.com/lasamericas2382/


If you are on Instagram, check this account for Julio.

Interesting he had worked at BBS once upon a time, then was working for / with Clutch for a while and now for / with PS Stix.

I don't have any issues with him or any of the woodshops, but curious to see the changes over the years.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 16, 2023, 06:40:41 AM

Anybody knows if the Hopps denley kid decks are clutch or bbs? I guess clutch, right?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 16, 2023, 06:55:24 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 16, 2023, 06:40:41 AM

Anybody knows if the Hopps denley kid decks are clutch or bbs? I guess clutch, right?

I'd imagine if they're 2022 decks it's BBS.

Per the first post:
Hopps* 2022+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on February 16, 2023, 06:55:55 AM

Julio originally worked at dwindle I think too….I always thought he owned clutch….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 16, 2023, 07:03:08 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 16, 2023, 06:55:24 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 16, 2023, 06:40:41 AM

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Anybody knows if the Hopps denley kid decks are clutch or bbs? I guess clutch, right?

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I'd imagine if they're 2022 decks it's BBS.

Per the first post:
Hopps* 2022+   ……….   ……….   BBS
Hopps* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch

I think that one is from 2021

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 16, 2023, 06:47:52 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 16, 2023, 06:55:55 AM

Julio originally worked at dwindle I think too….I always thought he owned clutch….

I am guessing he was a "main man" for the woodshop at one point, or at least partnered with them for all his products, for Neighborhood and his distro business through South America, or at least that is what I assumed going by social media and videos he had posted on youtube with some pretty solid shout outs to specific people.

When I looked up a lot of info for the woodshop thread back in 2020 or so, I came up with these names, but that could also change or someone else now the main face or person in charge of the business.



BBS owned by Grant Burns

PS Stix owned by Paul Schmitt

Clutch owned by Bruce Rodela



I also have the list of most of the smaller woodshops, who are usually single operators with additional staff, but I think that is not such a big deal and some of the guys don't really want names and info published on here anyway.  People who know them often say their names on their social media or other places anyway, eg Thanks (insert name here) for the boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on February 16, 2023, 09:56:51 PM

And like all things skate….more often than not….it’s owned by ‘some dude’…..not shoe we think….

I hope the dwindle shop still sticks around…….I wonder if NHS buys it….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 17, 2023, 03:54:07 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 16, 2023, 09:56:51 PM

And like all things skate….more often than not….it’s owned by ‘some dude’…..not shoe we think….

I hope the dwindle shop still sticks around…….I wonder if NHS buys it….

I thought people had said Dwindle (the company) was a different entity to DSM (the woodshop) and it was only Dwindle that was sold, not the DSM woodshop, which is still owned by someone else.

That said, like everything, it is a "wait and see" more than anything.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 18, 2023, 06:11:45 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

Pizza if you don't care about the brand, PS Stix for $30 or less from The Drop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 18, 2023, 11:45:06 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

Grab a PS-made Quasi. That should do the trick.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2023, 03:57:27 PM

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I can't remember if I had posted this before, but I think I had maybe in another thread:



https://www.instagram.com/the_shred_sled_skateboard_co/

Makeboarder
Denver, CO. Middle aged skateboarder making custom 🛹 by 🖐, one at a time. Skateboards made your way. Follow my journey
shredsledskateboards.etsy.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/CoNX1l2JnFJ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 21, 2023, 01:39:32 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 18, 2023, 11:45:06 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

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Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

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Grab a PS-made Quasi. That should do the trick.

Frog and Magenta are some BBS 8"s I've skated personally and enjoyed their shapes.
Crailtap 8"s are pretty solid if you can get down with the China wood which isn't that bad imo
Primitive/April 8" look nice too. The 8.25 Primitive shape was perfect with Ventures before I sized down

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2023, 01:45:21 PM

Quote from: notinternetfamous on February 21, 2023, 01:39:32 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 18, 2023, 11:45:06 AM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

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Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

[close]

Grab a PS-made Quasi. That should do the trick.

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Frog and Magenta are some BBS 8"s I've skated personally and enjoyed their shapes.
Crailtap 8"s are pretty solid if you can get down with the China wood which isn't that bad imo
Primitive/April 8" look nice too. The 8.25 Primitive shape was perfect with Ventures before I sized down

What was your favorite crail 8?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2023, 03:00:38 PM

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I am thinking it would be good to update some of the board pics, especially if some have had woodshop changes so if anyone has warning sticker / manufacturing sticker or laser engraving pics of new boards, please post them so I can add them to the main page.

Most of the ones I have are now a few years old at best, so while still being ok for some, others are quite outdated.


There also seems to be an increase in different continents getting different wood for the same brands, so if anyone notices anything besides what is listed, it would be good to know that as well.

Eg

Element has BBS and China for US, AU and HLC for EU
Birdhouse has BBS and China (both pro and budget wood options) for AU

Toy Machine still seems like it has a bit of everything, some BBS, PS Stix, China, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 21, 2023, 03:26:54 PM

Quote from: Ok on February 21, 2023, 01:45:21 PM

Quote from: notinternetfamous on February 21, 2023, 01:39:32 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 18, 2023, 11:45:06 AM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2023, 05:57:24 AM

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Ordered an 8“ Hopps deck and wtf; I’ve never skated such a pointy deck in my life.
It’s from 2021, so maybe it’s a clutch one.

Are current Hopps decks that pointy too?
I thought 8“ baker is pointy, but damn…



I really like Hopps as a brand. Too bad.

Any recommendations for 8“ decks that are more rounded besides hockey/fa/alien/habitat?
I guess GX is good too. What about Snack for example?

[close]

Grab a PS-made Quasi. That should do the trick.

[close]

Frog and Magenta are some BBS 8"s I've skated personally and enjoyed their shapes.
Crailtap 8"s are pretty solid if you can get down with the China wood which isn't that bad imo
Primitive/April 8" look nice too. The 8.25 Primitive shape was perfect with Ventures before I sized down

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What was your favorite crail 8?

I like the G018 & G045. Both are pretty similar tbh but the G045 does have a tiny tail if you're not a fan of that

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 21, 2023, 03:48:36 PM

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Quote from: poodude on February 18, 2023, 06:02:47 PM

I got 4 of those Long Beach Skate co. decks in today. For what it's worth they were all a standard shape similar to an Element deck but with longer nose and tail. All were Clutch wood. On an 8.38 they have a 14.2 wheelbase, 32.2 long, 7.25 nose, 6.75 tail and around 2 fingers of flat on each end. The orange and teal ones pictured are going to be normal shape clutch decks. They look like very nice decks, haven't skated a deck with a longer nose before.

https://lbskate.com/collections/decks-1?page=4&pf_v_brand=LONG+BEACH+SKATE

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on February 22, 2023, 11:47:52 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2023, 02:34:27 PM

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Re Alien Workshop, Habitat and Metal Skateboards wood info 2023, as per other post in different thread:

Quote from: commander jameson on February 14, 2023, 01:36:13 AM

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Depends where in the world you are.

In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck

Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.

China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.

For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.

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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

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Habitat suciu twin in EU is China. Wondered why they never dropped here/dropped so late and saw it for the first time here like a week ago. Has the US maple and glue sticker. Could post pictures for a comparison with the old owlien (i think BBS) as I still have one from a few years ago.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 231st Street on February 23, 2023, 03:25:29 AM

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Re Alien Workshop, Habitat and Metal Skateboards wood info 2023, as per other post in different thread:

Quote from: commander jameson on February 14, 2023, 01:36:13 AM

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Depends where in the world you are.

In US pro decks and twins should be BBS, team decks most likely China.
You can recognize BBS decks by red/white or black/white warning sticker on top ply saying 'Made in Mexico'.
Examples of BBS made Alien and Habitat decks
https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/spears-bully-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/suciu-lone-wolf-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck

Some older Alien and Habitat decks were made by PS Stix and can be recognized by laser engraved serial number on top ply and 'made in Mexico' sticker.

China decks usually have bottom ply silver sticker with hand saying 'made with premium north American maple and glue'.
Example of China made Habitat
https://www.tactics.com/habitat/mosaic-20-8375-twin-tail-skateboard-deck
There are still bunch of China made pro decks in circulation and shapes and concave seems to be same like on BBS made decks.

For Europe, latest batch of decks seems to be China ones.

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Quote from: rocklobster on February 04, 2023, 08:25:08 PM

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I dropped AWS insta a DM (like a man) to ask if they were still making boards with BBS.

The few I have at home still have the black and white made in Mexico sticker.  Primitive and Element use a combination of BBS and China boards, could have been stock that was sent for production in late 2021 / mid 2022 since the lead time between dealer catalog release and when those specific graphics go on sale is at least 3-6 months in advance.

Edit from AWS:
BBS - pro models from Habitat / Metal / AWS, Twin Tail
PS Stix - Austyn Gillette pro model with wheel wells
Logo decks - recent ones like the Logo Hex embossed are DSM, older ones before 2023 are BBS (my guess)

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Habitat suciu twin in EU is China. Wondered why they never dropped here/dropped so late and saw it for the first time here like a week ago. Has the US maple and glue sticker. Could post pictures for a comparison with the old owlien (i think BBS) as I still have one from a few years ago.

FWIW as stated elsewhere my Sammy Montano shaped deck direct from alien US has a made in china sticker similar to what I've heard re: the Morgan flag.  I usually skate BBS but reserving judgement as it looks great and I haven't skated it yet.  Topside does look kind of like recent girl/chocolate boards I've had .

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on February 24, 2023, 10:37:28 AM

I got a shop board from Skate Warehouse and I'm curious who the manufacturer is.

It has a dyed black top and pink middle ply with a stamp in the middle of the front truck holes. The stamp looks like the letter O and there is a small circular red sticker indicating the width next to the stamp.

Concave feels steep and the shape is full in nose and tail.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 24, 2023, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on February 24, 2023, 10:37:28 AM

I got a shop board from Skate Warehouse and I'm curious who the manufacturer is.

It has a dyed black top and pink middle ply with a stamp in the middle of the front truck holes. The stamp looks like the letter O and there is a small circular red sticker indicating the width next to the stamp.

clutch o shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on February 24, 2023, 10:48:08 AM

Quote from: TwisT on February 24, 2023, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on February 24, 2023, 10:37:28 AM

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I got a shop board from Skate Warehouse and I'm curious who the manufacturer is.

It has a dyed black top and pink middle ply with a stamp in the middle of the front truck holes. The stamp looks like the letter O and there is a small circular red sticker indicating the width next to the stamp.

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clutch o shape

Thanks! Never ridden a Clutch board before. It looks and feels nice in hand though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 25, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Can anybody tell me what the shape of Hopps decks is like? Specifically the nose? Is it round? Average? Pointy?

I had one from clutch from 2021 and it was super pointy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 25, 2023, 09:29:16 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 25, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

Can anybody tell me what the shape of Hopps decks is like? Specifically the nose? Is it round? Average? Pointy?

I had one from clutch from 2021 and it was super pointy.

Those in the know had said that during pandemic times they were on Clutch, but now back on BBS, but still yet to confirm this as I hadn't seen any in person for a number of years.  Their site says boards made in Mexico, so could be either.

https://hoppsskateboards.com/collections/decks


Tactics was one place that seemed like it had a good top image of the board, but it seems like the same image used for their 8, 8.25 and 8.5 so who knows.  Not too sure about all the other sizes, but you can check this one and compare.  To be honest that shape looks a little weird, but that might be down to the image cropping, more than one single board.


https://www.tactics.com/hopps-skateboards/decks


(https://www.tactics.com/a/e2h7/1b/hopps-skateboards-jahmal-williams-face-85-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 26, 2023, 01:24:51 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 25, 2023, 09:29:16 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on February 25, 2023, 02:46:14 AM

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Can anybody tell me what the shape of Hopps decks is like? Specifically the nose? Is it round? Average? Pointy?

I had one from clutch from 2021 and it was super pointy.

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Those in the know had said that during pandemic times they were on Clutch, but now back on BBS, but still yet to confirm this as I hadn't seen any in person for a number of years.  Their site says boards made in Mexico, so could be either.

https://hoppsskateboards.com/collections/decks


Tactics was one place that seemed like it had a good top image of the board, but it seems like the same image used for their 8, 8.25 and 8.5 so who knows.  Not too sure about all the other sizes, but you can check this one and compare.  To be honest that shape looks a little weird, but that might be down to the image cropping, more than one single board.


https://www.tactics.com/hopps-skateboards/decks


(https://www.tactics.com/a/e2h7/1b/hopps-skateboards-jahmal-williams-face-85-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Ah too bad. I think the shape is just not for me. The one I bought looked like GX shape to me on picture, but in reality it was extremely pointy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 26, 2023, 02:11:42 AM

Does anyone know if Theories and Traffic decks are made by BBS now again? I think they also came from a different woodshop a while.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 26, 2023, 04:10:31 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on February 26, 2023, 02:11:42 AM

Does anyone know if Theories and Traffic decks are made by BBS now again? I think they also came from a different woodshop a while.

It would be good to get some clarification on all of the Theories dist boards, as I think the list needs updating.


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/collections/skateboard-decks


I had a few things come up in this from the search for THEORIES from this and other threads, but again, nothing certain for the current runs.

Quite simply, some distributors buy in a whole lot of blanks and do their own in house heat transfers to whatever wood they have available, on whatever sizes they want, so the same graphic can easily be on almost any shape or size they have in their warehouse.  This doesn't exactly help for the list, if somewhere does get some from here and some from there, depending on what is available.

From the list of brands that come through Theories of Atlantis distribution, there were often three or four woodshops for the various brands, at one point being like this around mid to end of 2022, but I don't know what they are currently.


Dwindle - Evisen, Tightbooth
Control - Studio

BBS pre 2021 - Theories, Hopps, Isle, Magenta, Traffic, Picture Show
Clutch - 2021 Theories, Hopps, Isle, Magenta, Traffic, Picture Show, then 2022 Traffic, Picture Show
BBS (Generator) - 2022 Theories, Hopps, Isle, Magenta, 2023 maybe all the rest again


The shapes and sizes of this board look like the generic BBS / Generator boards for the popsicles at least in the 8.1 through 8.5 sizes, but that is not to say that they didn't get them made to those sizes through another woodshop too, as the Traffic board seems to be the same on listings.


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/products/theories-portal-skateboard-deck-prebook


Size Guide:

7.875" x 31.375"
WB: 14"

8.0" x 31.875"
WB: 14.125"

8.125" x 32"
WB: 14.25"

8.25" x 32"
WB: 14.25"

8.38" x 32.125"
WB: 14.375"

8.5" x 32.25"
WB: 14.5"

8.6" x 32.375"
WB: 14.625"

Nucleus Shape:
8.75" x 32.25"
WB: 14.25"

Ripper Shape:
9.25" x 32.25"
WB: 14.375"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 26, 2023, 04:24:14 AM

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https://www.tactics.com/search/theories/decks

https://www.tactics.com/theories-of-atlantis/tarot-875-nucleus-shape-skateboard-deck


(https://www.tactics.com/a/e70n/1b/theories-of-atlantis-tarot-875-nucleus-shape-skateboard-deck-angle.webp)


Nucleus shape is Clutch, others might be BBS, as per pics and what had been said here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3907208;topicseen#msg3907208

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3907807;topicseen#msg3907807

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: meserret on February 26, 2023, 08:19:31 AM

I wish we had a similar thread but for board shapes and sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on February 27, 2023, 09:43:19 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 25, 2023, 09:29:16 PM

Tactics was one place that seemed like it had a good top image of the board, but it seems like the same image used for their 8, 8.25 and 8.5 so who knows.  Not too sure about all the other sizes, but you can check this one and compare. 

Tactics will use old photos of board tops and sides.  Example being Welcome boards where the 3/4 angle is still showing the PS Stix laser.

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/townley-angel-86-enenra-shape-skateboard-deck/orange

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 27, 2023, 03:42:49 PM

Quote from: backinaction on February 27, 2023, 09:43:19 AM

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Tactics was one place that seemed like it had a good top image of the board, but it seems like the same image used for their 8, 8.25 and 8.5 so who knows.  Not too sure about all the other sizes, but you can check this one and compare. 

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Tactics will use old photos of board tops and sides.  Example being Welcome boards where the 3/4 angle is still showing the PS Stix laser.

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/townley-angel-86-enenra-shape-skateboard-deck/orange

That is a bit of a bugger!

It is not old stock from when they were on PS Stix?  Too long since the swap when I look it up, so I guess no.


I don't keep up with Welcome that much, but definitely bought a couple of boards since being on BBS, rather than PS Stix.

Others I know loved their PS Stix Welcome boards and were sad when they changed, but that is beside the point.


Thanks for the info too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on February 27, 2023, 04:11:33 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 27, 2023, 03:42:49 PM

It is not old stock from when they were on PS Stix?  Too long since the swap when I look it up, so I guess no.

This one has a top shot with the BBS sticker, but the 3/4 and side from PS Stix.

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/goure-castle-865-moontrimmer-20-shape-skateboard-deck/red

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 27, 2023, 05:39:39 PM

Quote from: backinaction on February 27, 2023, 04:11:33 PM

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It is not old stock from when they were on PS Stix?  Too long since the swap when I look it up, so I guess no.

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This one has a top shot with the BBS sticker, but the 3/4 and side from PS Stix.

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/goure-castle-865-moontrimmer-20-shape-skateboard-deck/red

Yeah I had a look through others too and saw quite a few had the PS Stix engraving, while the normal graphic and top side with BBS sticker are current and correct.


Doing a random sample of quite a few boards and they are the only ones to really stand out, but now it makes me wonder about other shapes I have not seen in person.

The boards I had seen in person definitely looked like the pics they had up, but as said, when the same pic is used for an 8, an 8.25 and an 8.5 board, something is a little funny, from that other pic further up this page.


I think for board tops, there are a few shop sites that I can rely on for the actual board pics, both top and bottom, but right this minute I can't think of them, but I had the list round here somewhere.


Shop in Japan being the best for measurements, pics and general info.

https://r-fskate.com/view/category/deck


Skate Deluxe

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skateboard-decks


Even SW seemed to always have good pics of product.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 27, 2023, 06:52:34 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 27, 2023, 05:39:39 PM

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It is not old stock from when they were on PS Stix?  Too long since the swap when I look it up, so I guess no.

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This one has a top shot with the BBS sticker, but the 3/4 and side from PS Stix.

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/goure-castle-865-moontrimmer-20-shape-skateboard-deck/red

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Yeah I had a look through others too and saw quite a few had the PS Stix engraving, while the normal graphic and top side with BBS sticker are current and correct.


Doing a random sample of quite a few boards and they are the only ones to really stand out, but now it makes me wonder about other shapes I have not seen in person.

The boards I had seen in person definitely looked like the pics they had up, but as said, when the same pic is used for an 8, an 8.25 and an 8.5 board, something is a little funny, from that other pic further up this page.


I think for board tops, there are a few shop sites that I can rely on for the actual board pics, both top and bottom, but right this minute I can't think of them, but I had the list round here somewhere.


Shop in Japan being the best for measurements, pics and general info.

https://r-fskate.com/view/category/deck


Skate Deluxe

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skateboard-decks


Even SW seemed to always have good pics of product.

I used to go to Skate Deluxe for measurements but they've been inaccurate on a few counts, but their top ply pics have been good for indicating woodshop used.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on February 28, 2023, 12:04:22 AM

In the Ben Degros video where he’s visiting PSStix there are Welcome boards there and it seems like they’ve just been made. I’m assuming the video has been filmed recently so I’m wondering what’s up with that. Are Welcome making some boards at PSStix still or could those be one offs for a rider or something?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 01, 2023, 10:55:38 AM

Do 8“ Alien and Habitat (habitat is the same shape, right?) have a big nose and tail too?

I want to size down from 8.25 AWS to an 8“. I love the big steep kicks of AWS. Have lo ventures now and want to get a deck now for them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 231st Street on March 01, 2023, 11:57:50 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 01, 2023, 10:55:38 AM

Do 8“ Alien and Habitat (habitat is the same shape, right?) have a big nose and tail too?

I want to size down from 8.25 AWS to an 8“. I love the big steep kicks of AWS. Have lo ventures now and want to get a deck now for them.

They are the same set of shapes for the most part and the 8 does have the big steep kicks.  Habitat 8s are often on insane sales on the Habitat website - I recently got a Stefan rally car 8 for 40 bucks (Alien sometimes, but seemingly less assuming you aren't looking for a pricepoint complete).  Haven't skated it yet, but looks great and similar t other Alien/Habitat 8s.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on March 01, 2023, 01:49:21 PM

Anyone know where Brainchild decks are from? Or do I have to dm Haslam like a man?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 01, 2023, 02:18:31 PM

Quote from: NewRocCity on March 01, 2023, 11:57:50 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 01, 2023, 10:55:38 AM

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Do 8“ Alien and Habitat (habitat is the same shape, right?) have a big nose and tail too?

I want to size down from 8.25 AWS to an 8“. I love the big steep kicks of AWS. Have lo ventures now and want to get a deck now for them.

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They are the same set of shapes for the most part and the 8 does have the big steep kicks.  Habitat 8s are often on insane sales on the Habitat website - I recently got a Stefan rally car 8 for 40 bucks (Alien sometimes, but seemingly less assuming you aren't looking for a pricepoint complete).  Haven't skated it yet, but looks great and similar t other Alien/Habitat 8s.

Cool, will try an 8“ then. I think the only thing I might miss from the 8.25 is how comfortable you can nose and tailslide with the big kicks. I guess on 8“ it’s a good amount less surface to stand on



Are there other brands with steep big nose and tails similar to alien workshop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: YMCMB on March 01, 2023, 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on March 01, 2023, 01:49:21 PM

Anyone know where Brainchild decks are from? Or do I have to dm Haslam like a man?

BBS

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Post by: Woodshop on March 01, 2023, 09:23:19 PM

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Anyone know where Brainchild decks are from? Or do I have to dm Haslam like a man?

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BBS

Thanks.

Added to the list.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 03, 2023, 05:02:52 PM

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Copied post from the sale gear thread:


LB Shop on Clutch shapes:

Quote from: poodude on March 03, 2023, 04:49:52 PM

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Just got my LB Skate Co decks and they were a mixed bag of Clutch shapes, glad I stuck to just 2 boards.

2 x 8.38, 1 with the ship graphic, one with the car graphic

Ship Graphic
Clutch K8 Graphic
8.38 x 32.125 x 14.25
Standard popsicle shape, steep kicks

Car Graphic
Clutch O8 Graphic
8.38 x 31.6 x 14.25
Square nose with a blunt tail, similar to a Quasi / GX1000, steep kicks

Trying to upload pics but Imgur isn't working for me at the moment.

Bummed on on the car graphic one, both aren't dipped but the blue and yellow look so good. The fat nose would have been a blast to skate too. Clutch makes decent boards only slightly inferior to BBS but I don't think I can ride a 31.6 x 14.25, those are Baker dims.

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That would have been good if they had put which shape it was on their listings, but maybe they are more a "mixed bag" than anything else, whatever comes on which ever shape?

If those boards are the same wheelbase, but very different lengths, how much difference is there in kicks too, both kicks shorter on the blunt shape or proportional enough?

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Here are the shapes I got in case anyone was interested.
(https://i.ibb.co/4j2K8ZD/IMG-20230303-183928488.jpg)

Edit: The butterfly deck appears slightly more full and the letter stamp looks more like an 'X' than a 'K' but I couldn't find that shape listed on the clutch website.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on March 07, 2023, 01:53:16 PM

Has anyone from Europe tried the DGK decks? I was looking for a deck with certain dimensions and found one dgk pro deck on sale, but it seems it is from the china made decks and not bbs, so if anyone have some experience with their china made decks i would appreciate an insight on the wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: joaqp on March 07, 2023, 11:34:39 PM

Just bought a king skateboard (tyshawn’s brand) it’s BBS idk why ppl were saying PS. Black and white sticker and no PS engraving.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 05:01:19 AM

Anyone know where current Stereo decks are made? The first page mentions both Clutch and Prime. Also does anyone have Nose, tail, and wheelbase dimensions for a recent board from them (8.5'' or larger)? I tried contacting them but didn't get a response.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 08, 2023, 09:04:18 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on March 07, 2023, 01:53:16 PM

Has anyone from Europe tried the DGK decks? I was looking for a deck with certain dimensions and found one dgk pro deck on sale, but it seems it is from the china made decks and not bbs, so if anyone have some experience with their china made decks i would appreciate an insight on the wood.

People who have had DGK boards from China have said different things on here, some like them, some do not.

I haven't seen any personally so can't really comment, but the initial response with them was they were about average weight, decent shapes, felt nice and snappy in the ollie department and were compared to a number of other woodshops or similar boards from Element and Birdhouse, who might very well use the same supplier for their own boards.


Did you have a specific shop in mind or where did you see it?

More so just to get a look at their board pics or the specific board, graphic name, or whatever, so I can search for it and find other info, maybe good board pics and more.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 09:19:48 AM

Quote from: joaqp on March 07, 2023, 11:34:39 PM

Just bought a king skateboard (tyshawn’s brand) it’s BBS idk why ppl were saying PS. Black and white sticker and no PS engraving.

https://www.kingskateboards.com/collections/decks


Which board graphic is it that you have?  Seems like there are only a couple to choose from here.


I wonder if Tyshawn had PS Stix boards and then Nakel has BBS or they have a mix of both to keep both dudes happy?


The "chatty" thread about King Skateboards:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124175.0


The shoes and gear thread (second page someone said PS Stix):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124515.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 09:37:18 AM

Quote from: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 05:01:19 AM

Anyone know where current Stereo decks are made? The first page mentions both Clutch and Prime. Also does anyone have Nose, tail, and wheelbase dimensions for a recent board from them (8.5'' or larger)? I tried contacting them but didn't get a response.

Is it just me or is it harder to get a normal Stereo deck nowdays, compared to something that has been signed by one or more of the main guys or someone else?

I watched Jason Lee and Chris Pastras skate everything growing up, but I didn't expect to see a "milking show" when I went to look up their boards.


https://www.stereosoundagency.com/collections/decks


Some shops have a few boards, but it doesn't seem like there are many 8.5 and up size boards though.

So Cal is a good one to keep an eye on as they have all dimensions listed.


https://socalskateshop.com/Stereo-Skateboards.html


This listing has a good pic of the top and basic measurements:


https://www.concretedisciples.com/shop/skateboard-decks/stereo-sound-agency-skateboards/stereo-sound-agency-chris-pastras-stax-deck-8-5/

Length: 31.875
Width: 8.5
Wheelbase: 14.375 inch


That doesn't leave that much for nose and tail lengths, but another listing has the board at 8.5 x 32 with 14.5 wb which is fairly common across a number of that size board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 09:42:25 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 09:37:18 AM

Is it just me or is it harder to get a normal Stereo deck nowdays, compared to something that has been signed by one or more of the main guys or someone else?

Yeah, they do a lot of signed and limited edition stuff now, same as H-Street. I guess they are catering to the collector market where people hang boards on the wall. Nothing wrong with that but at least offer some basic decks for people that might want to ride one. I also don't know why every company can't put up basic specs these days, or even give us a side shot of the concave.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 09:48:22 AM

Quote from: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 09:42:25 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2023, 09:37:18 AM

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Is it just me or is it harder to get a normal Stereo deck nowdays, compared to something that has been signed by one or more of the main guys or someone else?

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Yeah, they do a lot of signed and limited edition stuff now, same as H-Street. I guess they are catering to the collector market where people hang boards on the wall. Nothing wrong with that but at least offer some basic decks for people that might want to ride one. I also don't know why every company can't put up basic specs these days, or even give us a side shot of the concave.

Another listing had one as 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, but I don't know how old that listing was and the board is out of stock too, so it was just the dimensions in the google search listing that showed.  When I went to click on it, it came up with the page you are trying to look at cannot be found.

That is the exact dimensions of the Clutch K (8.5) shape that I have here, but also the same as the BBS standard 8.5 board too, so who knows.

Didn't think it could be that hard.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on March 08, 2023, 12:22:46 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 08, 2023, 09:04:18 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on March 07, 2023, 01:53:16 PM

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Has anyone from Europe tried the DGK decks? I was looking for a deck with certain dimensions and found one dgk pro deck on sale, but it seems it is from the china made decks and not bbs, so if anyone have some experience with their china made decks i would appreciate an insight on the wood.

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People who have had DGK boards from China have said different things on here, some like them, some do not.

I haven't seen any personally so can't really comment, but the initial response with them was they were about average weight, decent shapes, felt nice and snappy in the ollie department and were compared to a number of other woodshops or similar boards from Element and Birdhouse, who might very well use the same supplier for their own boards.


Did you have a specific shop in mind or where did you see it?

More so just to get a look at their board pics or the specific board, graphic name, or whatever, so I can search for it and find other info, maybe good board pics and more.

Thanx :) I found some reviews on the china decks and as you said  some people like them, others don't, so i decided to try it myself coz it was a good deal and the dimensions are in my goldilock zone.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Richard Skidder on March 11, 2023, 09:16:09 AM

Looks like Santa Cruz is using birch on some decks now which I would assume some Creature boards will have that soon too. Three dyed plys on this one too.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7DrCYW/DDDED989-8-F8-D-44-D2-9-D3-C-F48-C0-C70-F119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D7DrCYW)

remove repeated lines (https://dedupelist.com/)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on March 11, 2023, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: Richard Skidder on March 11, 2023, 09:16:09 AM

Looks like Santa Cruz is using birch on some decks now which I would assume some Creature boards will have that soon too. Three dyed plys on this one too.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7DrCYW/DDDED989-8-F8-D-44-D2-9-D3-C-F48-C0-C70-F119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D7DrCYW)

remove repeated lines (https://dedupelist.com/)

They’ve been doing this with the logo boards for a while

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Richard Skidder on March 11, 2023, 02:34:54 PM

Quote from: TwisT on March 11, 2023, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: Richard Skidder on March 11, 2023, 09:16:09 AM

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Looks like Santa Cruz is using birch on some decks now which I would assume some Creature boards will have that soon too. Three dyed plys on this one too.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7DrCYW/DDDED989-8-F8-D-44-D2-9-D3-C-F48-C0-C70-F119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D7DrCYW)

remove repeated lines (https://dedupelist.com/)

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They’ve been doing this with the logo boards for a while

I was working at the shop today and it was the first time I’ve seen it, of course I’m not usually looking at Santa Cruz boards that often. Just happened to notice while I was rearranging the wall. I get it for prebuilt completes but for individual decks it’s kinda sneaky.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sk8craft on March 13, 2023, 12:31:27 PM

Been a quiet reader here for a bit and am blown away by all this info – thanks for taking the time to compile all of this!
I’ve been working with small scale board builders for several years and thought readers of this thread might be interested in knowing about some of the smaller builders and craftspeople out there. There's a global "Maker Map" at https://sk8cad.com (https://sk8cad.com) that builders can register and add themselves to (click the "Maker Map" button in the top menu to view the map). Not all of them sell what they make or have links to their work, but it’s been fascinating to see all the board builders popping up around the world. Many of these folks can also produce stuff the factories don’t/won't. (Also, just for transparency here, I do manage that site... if you have any feedback about the map and how it could be more helpful, please let me know.)

Again, thanks for the great work with this thread!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 13, 2023, 08:18:45 PM

Quote from: sk8craft on March 13, 2023, 12:31:27 PM

Been a quiet reader here for a bit and am blown away by all this info – thanks for taking the time to compile all of this!
I’ve been working with small scale board builders for several years and thought readers of this thread might be interested in knowing about some of the smaller builders and craftspeople out there. There's a global "Maker Map" at https://sk8cad.com (https://sk8cad.com) that builders can register and add themselves to (click the "Maker Map" button in the top menu to view the map). Not all of them sell what they make or have links to their work, but it’s been fascinating to see all the board builders popping up around the world. Many of these folks can also produce stuff the factories don’t/won't. (Also, just for transparency here, I do manage that site... if you have any feedback about the map and how it could be more helpful, please let me know.)

Again, thanks for the great work with this thread!

That's awesome!

I will check it out when I have a minute.


Any and every contribution to help is appreciated, big or small woodshops, people who work there, own them, make web sites about them, or even just anyone who has questions, comments or info about any board or woodshop out there.

It all goes to help with things, that's for sure.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 13, 2023, 08:24:13 PM

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I just came across this account, which I had not seen before.


Anyone else heard of or used any of their products?

mNc decks
Mad Circle
All City



https://www.instagram.com/mastermind_dist/


Master-Mind distribution 🏭 #oem #mfg
skateboards • apparel • screen-printing
mNc☆ • all-city • madcircle • lion wheels
dm us | email | whatsapp ( text, call )
www.mastermind-dist.com


I haven't looked into it much yet, but some bold comments in some of their posts (calling out / putting down the major woodshops), given they are just another company that brings in boards from China, but whatever hey...



https://www.instagram.com/p/CmT6_YQDq0_/

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClvMnIqjt3v/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 13, 2023, 10:35:28 PM

I'm violently offended they used Gangstarr's Work in that Insta post

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 14, 2023, 02:36:55 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 13, 2023, 10:35:28 PM

I'm violently offended they used Gangstarr's Work in that Insta post

Ha yeah, some "funny" terms come to mind, but nothing I would add here.

Just seems like they are trying a bit too hard, but I know nothing about them, so should smile and nod.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on March 14, 2023, 05:35:05 AM

Mad Circle!? Menace? Under the same distro?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on March 14, 2023, 04:31:13 PM

FWIW some Disorder [team only?] decks are being made in China:


(https://i.ibb.co/TwW53zS/IMG-3937.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TwW53zS)

share images (https://imgbb.com/)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: blahblah999 on March 16, 2023, 08:59:30 AM

That Mastermind site is a 404 dead link. Not sure I'd trust anything from there. Looks like repository for dead brands.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Coldcut on March 16, 2023, 10:07:42 AM

Quote from: Xen on March 14, 2023, 04:31:13 PM

FWIW some Disorder [team only?] decks are being made in China:


(https://i.ibb.co/TwW53zS/IMG-3937.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TwW53zS)

share images (https://imgbb.com/)

Reminds me of Apple Ipods in the 00's.
Designed in California, made in China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on March 16, 2023, 10:25:39 AM

Quote from: Coldcut on March 16, 2023, 10:07:42 AM

Quote from: Xen on March 14, 2023, 04:31:13 PM

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FWIW some Disorder [team only?] decks are being made in China:


(https://i.ibb.co/TwW53zS/IMG-3937.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TwW53zS)

share images (https://imgbb.com/)

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Reminds me of Apple Ipods in the 00's.
Designed in California, made in China.

dwindle boards say this too...

I guess some people find comfort in the fact that their boards are at least designed in California

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sedition on March 16, 2023, 09:24:55 PM

Not sure if this is best place to post this (was thinking about starting a specific thread on "Help Me Find Specific Gear").

I normally ride the 8.25/14.38 DLX deck. I'm looking to try an 8.5/14.5 deck without a super round nose/tail, and without steep kicks, preferably BBS wood. Black Label has a great shape in those dimensions, but have always found their kicks to be way too steep for me. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!   

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 05:02:48 AM

Quote from: Sedition on March 16, 2023, 09:24:55 PM

Not sure if this is best place to post this (was thinking about starting a specific thread on "Help Me Find Specific Gear").

I normally ride the 8.25/14.38 DLX deck. I'm looking to try an 8.5/14.5 deck without a super round nose/tail, and without steep kicks, preferably BBS wood. Black Label has a great shape in those dimensions, but have always found their kicks to be way too steep for me. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!   

The BBS 8.5 x 32.2 - 32.5 with 14.5 wheelbase is my main go to (besides DLX 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb) and there are lots around, but I definitely find that a lot of them are on the steeper side in both concave and kicks.

I tend to get many of them on sale and "blank" the graphic for starters, but more often than not, I also have to mellow out the kicks by parking on them, about an hour each, for the steeper ones, which turn out great, as per a Black Label deck I set up recently, which was one of the steepest boards I had seen in that shape, but I took it down past a "Baker mellow" and it works nicely.


The list of board brands that use the same BBS shape is pretty long but here are the ones I have bought in the past so I know these are those dimensions, even though some might be listed as only 32 long or something else, including Black Label, Baker, Birdhouse, Deathwish, Element, Passport, Cash Only, Isle, Loser Machine, The Killing Floor, Uma Landsleds and Polar (if the 14.5 wb is to be agreed, rather than 14.38 that has been on some boards).


Other shorter wheelbase boards with decent shapes in 8.5 widths include 917 (14.25), Carpet Co (14.38), Heroin (14.38), Darkroom, Magenta (14.38), Frog, Limosine.

All of those I have either had or at least seen, but you might also want to check any shop boards done by BBS / Generator as they also have that same shape, of which I have bought quite a few here in AU and I know there are a lot of shops in USA that use BBS as their main boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sedition on March 17, 2023, 05:16:42 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 05:02:48 AM

...I also have to mellow out the kicks by parking on them, about an hour each, for the steeper ones...

@Mbrimson88 this actually works!?! I've heard about this for, well, forever, but never knew anyone that actually did it. I always assumed it was some kind of urban legend type deal, and didn't want to try it myself. What is the exact method you use?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bill Salt on March 17, 2023, 05:25:08 AM

Quote from: Sedition on March 17, 2023, 05:16:42 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 05:02:48 AM

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...I also have to mellow out the kicks by parking on them, about an hour each, for the steeper ones...

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This actually works!?! I've heard about this for, well, forever, but never knew anyone that actually did it. I always assumed it was some kind of urban legend type deal, and didn't want to try it myself. What is the exact method you use?

I ask my wife to sit on it for 20mn.This works.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on March 17, 2023, 05:37:00 AM

Skated an old evisen board last night, one of the many boards I’ve skated for a short period of time, and then just stuffed into a closet. Now I want another.
Dsm?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on March 17, 2023, 06:46:59 AM

Quote from: larry leadfoot on March 17, 2023, 05:41:59 AM

Quote from: Ok on March 17, 2023, 05:37:00 AM

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Skated an old evisen board last night, one of the many boards I’ve skated for a short period of time, and then just stuffed into a closet. Now I want another.
Dsm?

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Sure are.

I'm skating a few Enjoi Bag of Suck boards due to the downfall of the brand after swearing off DSM more than 10 years ago (those small tails still haunt me). The 8.25 x 32.1 'mellow concave + steep kick' is feeling good, something different I guess.

Thanks.
I guess I’ll just keep hitting this thread to get the update on what the dsm board shop is making going forward. My understanding was that they were going to continue to manufacture boards, but I could be very wrong.
I’m all in on short tails (and noses rn). And short overall length. Currently the wb is more fungible, which is a weird stance to take, but yeah that’s what has been ‘working’, short nose and tail, short board. Dunno why.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 04:10:23 PM

Quote from: Sedition on March 17, 2023, 05:16:42 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 05:02:48 AM

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...I also have to mellow out the kicks by parking on them, about an hour each, for the steeper ones...

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@Mbrimson88 this actually works!?! I've heard about this for, well, forever, but never knew anyone that actually did it. I always assumed it was some kind of urban legend type deal, and didn't want to try it myself. What is the exact method you use?

I have a Corolla, so small car, fairly light on the boards, but the best thing to do with whatever vehicle you have is try it out on some old boards first, just to see if the weight is ok, not too much.  For my car, I use the front wheels (engine heavier) than the back, but others start with back wheels to get it going or in a bigger car or truck, go with whatever is lightest.

Also warm tyres work way better than cold, but also warmer weather helps more than cold weather.  Even just start with driving slowly over the board to see how it goes, then when I know it is ok, I park on the bolts area for a bit to just mellow it out a bit, or stay on it for an hour or so if it is really steep.

I have never had any issues with BBS boards, but I know others have cracked or broken Dwindle boards, as they were just too stiff and didn't want to give.  That was only one or two, compared to the many Dwindle boards that that guy has flattened, along with a few other woodshops, so it definitely works but there can also be some issues.

I started putting the boards on carpet squares, but now sheath the deck in cardboard too, just to protect the top of the kicks a little bit, as well as doing it on the smooth garage floor, but others have just driven over them on the road or carpark and left chunks in the tops from the road surface, which I don't think is very nice.

Lastly after doing whatever you do, let them sit for a day or so before worrying that you have flattened them too much.  They usually spring back a lot, but yes I have flattened some a little too much, compared to the ideal position which I liken to taking a DLX board with a I stamp down to a IV stamp.  I just did a few of the I and II boards I got on sales where I didn't care what number they were cause the boards were so cheap it didn't matter and they still feel super stiff and not at all flexed out after doing this, but they are a little more mellow than they started, so I am really happy with them.


Here are a couple of posts I did on it, showing the board bouce back after driving over it and where I park on them.  The sound is really distorted when I drove over it, so no there is nothing wrong with the board or the car.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CTMrHLYlWVb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFqdpGRBTua/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sedition on March 18, 2023, 08:19:55 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 04:10:23 PM

Quote from: Sedition on March 17, 2023, 05:16:42 AM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 17, 2023, 05:02:48 AM

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...I also have to mellow out the kicks by parking on them, about an hour each, for the steeper ones...

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@Mbrimson88 this actually works!?! I've heard about this for, well, forever, but never knew anyone that actually did it. I always assumed it was some kind of urban legend type deal, and didn't want to try it myself. What is the exact method you use?

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I have a Corolla, so small car, fairly light on the boards, but the best thing to do with whatever vehicle you have is try it out on some old boards first, just to see if the weight is ok, not too much.  For my car, I use the front wheels (engine heavier) than the back, but others start with back wheels to get it going or in a bigger car or truck, go with whatever is lightest.

Also warm tyres work way better than cold, but also warmer weather helps more than cold weather.  Even just start with driving slowly over the board to see how it goes, then when I know it is ok, I park on the bolts area for a bit to just mellow it out a bit, or stay on it for an hour or so if it is really steep.

I have never had any issues with BBS boards, but I know others have cracked or broken Dwindle boards, as they were just too stiff and didn't want to give.  That was only one or two, compared to the many Dwindle boards that that guy has flattened, along with a few other woodshops, so it definitely works but there can also be some issues.

I started putting the boards on carpet squares, but now sheath the deck in cardboard too, just to protect the top of the kicks a little bit, as well as doing it on the smooth garage floor, but others have just driven over them on the road or carpark and left chunks in the tops from the road surface, which I don't think is very nice.

Lastly after doing whatever you do, let them sit for a day or so before worrying that you have flattened them too much.  They usually spring back a lot, but yes I have flattened some a little too much, compared to the ideal position which I liken to taking a DLX board with a I stamp down to a IV stamp.  I just did a few of the I and II boards I got on sales where I didn't care what number they were cause the boards were so cheap it didn't matter and they still feel super stiff and not at all flexed out after doing this, but they are a little more mellow than they started, so I am really happy with them.


Here are a couple of posts I did on it, showing the board bouce back after driving over it and where I park on them.  The sound is really distorted when I drove over it, so no there is nothing wrong with the board or the car.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CTMrHLYlWVb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFqdpGRBTua/

This is the most useful/best thing I’ve ever seen on SLAP. Thank you, and will report back with results on a Black Label. In related news, checked-out an 8.5 Baker yesterday and it seemed to fit what I was looking for.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2023, 05:54:19 PM

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Copied to this thread as it is relevant:

Quote from: Le Flaute on March 18, 2023, 09:16:46 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on March 18, 2023, 07:44:13 AM

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Quote from: Le Flaute on March 18, 2023, 06:58:56 AM

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Quote from: Le Flaute on March 18, 2023, 03:58:05 AM

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Baker is BBS

Does all the Baker decks got the holografic sticker of BBS between the truck holes?

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Somebody help please?

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Considering it's the new thing on BBS made boards, they should have that yes

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Do you mean only the decks made from X year got that sticker?
Bbs didnt use to put such stickers?

Quote from: BALARGUE on March 18, 2023, 09:24:37 AM

the holographic sticker is fairly recent (for approx a year and a half)

Edit: my bad and sorry for the misleading info, i just checked on a couple boards from BBS i have in stock at the shop (less than 3 months old), Antihero, Krooked, Passport and they don't have the holographic sticker

maybe the new thing is not having that holographic sticker

More info in the Woodshop thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0


Article here:

https://bbsmfg.com/2021/05/15/bbs-made-authentic-sticker/


 MAY 15, 2021
BBS Made Authentic Sticker


From what I have seen, NOT all brands that use BBS have these stickers, but I think from what I have seen more recently (not latest drops, as nothing is that current here in AU) there are a lot of them around on some brands, including Baker, Deathwish, Element, 917, Welcome and others I have bought in the last few months.

I have never seen them on DLX, Passport, Magenta, Black Label, among others, just for reference.


If there was any doubt as to whether or not a board is BBS, it should have the "Made in Mexico" warning sticker and very spoon shaped kicks, compared to counterfeit Baker boards which have the "Dwindle concave" and no warning sticker, often with slightly fuzzy graphics, like they were photocopied, at least on the one I saw.



Edit:

To note though, some old stock doesn't have those stickers, or even some not so old stock that for whatever reason just didn't get them, as per a Baker series I saw the other day in a shop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2023, 05:57:29 PM

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In reply to this:

Quote from: Richard Skidder on March 11, 2023, 09:16:09 AM

Looks like Santa Cruz is using birch on some decks now which I would assume some Creature boards will have that soon too. Three dyed plys on this one too.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7DrCYW/DDDED989-8-F8-D-44-D2-9-D3-C-F48-C0-C70-F119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D7DrCYW)

remove repeated lines (https://dedupelist.com/)

Another copy from a thread I hadn't seen:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0


HARD ROCK MAPLE BOARDS, WHAT’S THE DEAL?  From 2019

Quote from: Torre on April 04, 2019, 08:10:09 AM

Quote from: TwisT on April 03, 2019, 08:20:31 PM

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I think it's "hard rock maple" because they can't say "Canadian hard rock maple" and they want to make their price points sound better. Another marketing term from NHS.

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You’re right I didn’t think of that. Here’s a screenshot of how they describe them

(https://i.ibb.co/SJqznsj/F538-A25-A-8837-4525-8152-9-B04-B8720-F36.png) (https://ibb.co/kMYt8H7)

Quote from: TwisT on April 04, 2019, 08:57:55 AM

yeap, double checked.

(https://i.imgur.com/CLVLsqq.png)

Dwindle also differentiates Canadian maple and other maple construction and allegedly NHS has moved some its production to DSM. I bought one of those blind cheapo logo decks 2 years ago from SW on sale for under 20$ and had the exact same delam situation.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 18, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

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Another single operator board maker:


https://www.instagram.com/mixedlandbirds/

MIXED LAND BIRDS
mixed skateboards
Handmade cut/shaped/painted - Northern CA
youtu.be/yG-lqyVDGyI



https://www.instagram.com/p/Cp8dh-LPnyq/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjYE_dtrDIT/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: djoekr on March 20, 2023, 12:56:55 AM

How would I know if a Quasi deck is pressed by BBS or PS when shopping online?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 20, 2023, 01:08:42 AM

Quote from: djoekr on March 20, 2023, 12:56:55 AM

How would I know if a Quasi deck is pressed by BBS or PS when shopping online?

Check the specific graphics on the Quasi website, they list BBS / PS Stix on the product listing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: djoekr on March 20, 2023, 01:13:46 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on March 20, 2023, 01:08:42 AM

Quote from: djoekr on March 20, 2023, 12:56:55 AM

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How would I know if a Quasi deck is pressed by BBS or PS when shopping online?

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Check the specific graphics on the Quasi website, they list BBS / PS Stix on the product listing.

Thanks, appreciate it!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 231st Street on March 21, 2023, 05:19:37 AM

Has anyone skated the large Alva pool decks?  How do they ride?  I'm so curious but never seen one at a shop or in the wild with me.  Dont think I've ever skated a Watson board either

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2023, 07:08:02 AM

Quote from: NewRocCity on March 21, 2023, 05:19:37 AM

Has anyone skated the large Alva pool decks?  How do they ride?  I'm so curious but never seen one at a shop or in the wild with me.  Dont think I've ever skated a Watson board either

I have a few Dogtown boards that were made by Watson and they are solid.

The wood seems thicker than average, but not so thick that they look like a cheap department store board, very minimal concave besides the tail, but that can easily change from board to board, decent quality and those things last for ages.

Some of the Alva boards are a bit on the weird side, but they should have length, wheelbase and hopefully any other info or decent pics if you can't see them in person.

Don't know of that many shops that stock a lot of them, usually because the market for them is pretty limited but they are fun as a cruiser or work well enough as a normal board if you like that sort of thing too.


If it is the Pool Crusher as per info and pic below, they are a beast, but from the Alva Skates link, Tony still shreds that board, so I think it would work nicely on Indy 215s and whatever big wheels go on them, eg 60mm 90 duro for softer wheels or any big fat ones in a 60mm 99s like Radial Full or similar.

I just added more info down the bottom too - seems like these particular ones are steep concave and all that, but others I have seen are almost dead flat besides the tail kick.  Maybe a little too much info, but I like to look it up and see what is out there as well.


A couple of links:


https://alva-skates.com/


https://socalskateshop.com/Alva-Skateboards.html



Edit:


I meant to put in a couple of specific "Alva Pool deck" links too, so here you go, both have some interesting info and pics, not at all meant as a where to buy, but finding a shop or page that has some good info that is worth looking at is more what I had in mind:

https://socalskateshop.com/Alva-Power-Station-Double-Diamond-Pool-Crusher-Skateboard-Deck-Blue-11x34.html

https://www.longboarderlabs.com/product/alva-skates-double-diamond-pool-crusher-deck-11-x-34-blue/


And this one with all the specs


https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/alva-double-diamond-pool-crusher-skateboard-deck-11-x-34--1625-wb-old-skool-sky-blue-26990-p.asp


11" x 34"
6.25" nose
7.75" tail
16.25" WB (measured from inside to inside holes)
Deep concave
Front & Rear Wheel wells
Sharp top edges
Drilled for new hole trucks
Width over front trucks : 10.5"
Width over rear trucks : 10"

One of the biggest boards I've ever seen.  If you want a little extra width, wheelbase & tail then this is for you.  It's got plenty of nose for switch moves, a huge tail, width in buckets, deep concave and wheel wells...what else could you possibly want?
It doesn't look that big in the pictures but at 34" x 11" believe me it is.
It is part of the co-lab with Alva & Pool King Skateboards.
It has deep concave, a steep nose, wheelwells and a really big steep tail. The top edges are squared rather than rounded. This makes it feel even wider, than it already is, and gives great deck feel. (I love sharp edges on a deck).
For the biggest old skool riders, still rolling, this is the answer if regular boards are just too twitchy round the bowl.
The brainchild of Tony Alva, also known as "The Pool Crusher", has the distinction of being featured in Skateboarder Mag’s “All-Time Favourite Boards”.

 
It is long enough to also make a sick tech downhill slide board.
 
Set-up Advice:
Trucks: Indy 215s, Tracker Dart 184s, Bullet 185s or narrower trucks (169s) if you are going to use extra wide wheels.
Wheels: Alva "Conical"
..or your favourite modern wheels, keep them around the 60mm mark with this beast though!
Transport Wheels: OJ ""Super Juice"


(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/36/Alva-Skates-DOUBLE-DIAMOND-POOL-CRUSHER-BLUE-Deck-1.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 231st Street on March 24, 2023, 03:16:58 AM

Thank you so much for the info, awesome!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Liggerz87 on March 26, 2023, 08:18:24 PM

Native skate store in Newcastle use control wood Canada for there boards and they apply the graphic themselves
(https://i.ibb.co/m86VpCh/Screenshot-20230327-021430.png) (https://ibb.co/m86VpCh)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on March 27, 2023, 08:00:18 AM

I kinda hate how almost every brand nowadays offers price point shit. even DLX does it. Does anyone know what the deal is with those "Support your local skateshop" boards they put out? i had one and it was definintely complete trash compared to the anti hero i got the following month.

I like how Frog seems like they have only ever used BBS since day 1 and just sticking to their guns, dont put out any price point bullshit, dont jump ship on the shops , dont do collabo boards etc. any other companies that could be added to this list that has ONLY EVER used BBS and doesnt stray? i know a lot of the smaller new ones like Adored, Chico Stix etc. would likely be good bets too.

i dont like toy machine boards because you dont evne know what the fuck you are getting unless you really know your shit. You could be getting a complete china board. i think if you go with a pro board, for the most part is a safe bet. but i hate having to guess.

i dont like how Quasi is using a mix of PS and BBS. i think that is a recipe for disaster. maybe their fanbase is a higher iq and more willing to research the woodshop their board is coming from before buying it. but i fucking doubt it. i feel like kids are gonna get a board, be stoked on it, get another one, and have a completley different experiuence the next time and wonder why. this is branding 101. whne they made mcdonalds the idea was the burger tastes the same no matter which one you go to across amerikkka. i dont think they are making a wise play trying to reinvent the wheelbase on this one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on March 27, 2023, 08:16:33 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on March 27, 2023, 08:00:18 AM

I kinda hate how almost every brand nowadays offers price point shit. even DLX does it. Does anyone know what the deal is with those "Support your local skateshop" boards they put out? i had one and it was definintely complete trash compared to the anti hero i got the following month.

I like how Frog seems like they have only ever used BBS since day 1 and just sticking to their guns, dont put out any price point bullshit, dont jump ship on the shops , dont do collabo boards etc. any other companies that could be added to this list that has ONLY EVER used BBS and doesnt stray? i know a lot of the smaller new ones like Adored, Chico Stix etc. would likely be good bets too.

i dont like toy machine boards because you dont evne know what the fuck you are getting unless you really know your shit. You could be getting a complete china board. i think if you go with a pro board, for the most part is a safe bet. but i hate having to guess.

i dont like how Quasi is using a mix of PS and BBS. i think that is a recipe for disaster. maybe their fanbase is a higher iq and more willing to research the woodshop their board is coming from before buying it. but i fucking doubt it. i feel like kids are gonna get a board, be stoked on it, get another one, and have a completley different experiuence the next time and wonder why. this is branding 101. whne they made mcdonalds the idea was the burger tastes the same no matter which one you go to across amerikkka. i dont think they are making a wise play trying to reinvent the wheelbase on this one.

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/euro-phade-complete-8

Not entirely related but I just realized Quasi does beginner completes, the trucks look like Tensor alloys that come from DSM, wouldn't be surprised if the deck was from there too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on March 27, 2023, 09:18:42 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on March 27, 2023, 08:00:18 AM

I kinda hate how almost every brand nowadays offers price point shit. even DLX does it. Does anyone know what the deal is with those "Support your local skateshop" boards they put out? i had one and it was definintely complete trash compared to the anti hero i got the following month.

I like how Frog seems like they have only ever used BBS since day 1 and just sticking to their guns, dont put out any price point bullshit, dont jump ship on the shops , dont do collabo boards etc. any other companies that could be added to this list that has ONLY EVER used BBS and doesnt stray? i know a lot of the smaller new ones like Adored, Chico Stix etc. would likely be good bets too.

i dont like toy machine boards because you dont evne know what the fuck you are getting unless you really know your shit. You could be getting a complete china board. i think if you go with a pro board, for the most part is a safe bet. but i hate having to guess.

i dont like how Quasi is using a mix of PS and BBS. i think that is a recipe for disaster. maybe their fanbase is a higher iq and more willing to research the woodshop their board is coming from before buying it. but i fucking doubt it. i feel like kids are gonna get a board, be stoked on it, get another one, and have a completley different experiuence the next time and wonder why. this is branding 101. whne they made mcdonalds the idea was the burger tastes the same no matter which one you go to across amerikkka. i dont think they are making a wise play trying to reinvent the wheelbase on this one.

To be fair to Quasi, they list the woodshop for every deck in every drop on their website. It's right there along with the other specs. Most skate shops also list PS or BBS in the specs for Quasi boards.

I totally get what you're saying, but I think for the Quasi situation it's pretty easy to figure out what board is from what woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 02:13:37 AM

8.25 decks that are under 32 length with 14“ wb and fuller nose?


Edit: GO27 decks I just saw.
Or primitive. But do they really come in slightly different shapes with 8.25?

Somehow not hyped on April decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 02:13:37 AM

8.25 decks that are under 32 length with 14“ wb and fuller nose?


Edit: GO27 decks I just saw.
Or primitive. But do they really come in slightly different shapes with 8.25?

Somehow not hyped on April decks.

Primitive and April are shorter boards, sometimes a bit more square, but not always.


Going to extremes, FA or Hockey boards are 8.25 x 31.79 with 14.12 wb and they definitely have full noses.


Generally PS Stix boards have a wider more blunt nose and even though they might be listed as 32+ it is usually measured with the concave, where everything is measured flat across so they come in under 32 more often than not, often around 31.8 which is a fair size for most 8.25 boards in general with 14.25 or so wheelbases.

Do you have a local shop or two you can get into or only shopping online?

If only online there are some shops that tend to list boards more accurately as well as do their own pics, but I will more often than not check multiple shops for dimensions and shapes if I haven't seen them in person.

Sometimes that can be very annoying if they just don't have good top pics.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 03:28:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 02:13:37 AM

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8.25 decks that are under 32 length with 14“ wb and fuller nose?


Edit: GO27 decks I just saw.
Or primitive. But do they really come in slightly different shapes with 8.25?

Somehow not hyped on April decks.

[close]

Primitive and April are shorter boards, sometimes a bit more square, but not always.


Going to extremes, FA or Hockey boards are 8.25 x 31.79 with 14.12 wb and they definitely have full noses.


Generally PS Stix boards have a wider more blunt nose and even though they might be listed as 32+ it is usually measured with the concave, where everything is measured flat across so they come in under 32 more often than not, often around 31.8 which is a fair size for most 8.25 boards in general with 14.25 or so wheelbases.

Do you have a local shop or two you can get into or only shopping online?

If only online there are some shops that tend to list boards more accurately as well as do their own pics, but I will more often than not check multiple shops for dimensions and shapes if I haven't seen them in person.

Sometimes that can be very annoying if they just don't have good top pics.

Shopping online only here.
„Sometimes  more square“ why are brands doing this? I hate it. People want to skate the exact same shape mostly, that’s why they buy the decks.

It doesn’t need to be FA square, but on the rounder side

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 04:00:05 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 03:28:33 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 02:13:37 AM

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8.25 decks that are under 32 length with 14“ wb and fuller nose?


Edit: GO27 decks I just saw.
Or primitive. But do they really come in slightly different shapes with 8.25?

Somehow not hyped on April decks.

[close]

Primitive and April are shorter boards, sometimes a bit more square, but not always.


Going to extremes, FA or Hockey boards are 8.25 x 31.79 with 14.12 wb and they definitely have full noses.


Generally PS Stix boards have a wider more blunt nose and even though they might be listed as 32+ it is usually measured with the concave, where everything is measured flat across so they come in under 32 more often than not, often around 31.8 which is a fair size for most 8.25 boards in general with 14.25 or so wheelbases.

Do you have a local shop or two you can get into or only shopping online?

If only online there are some shops that tend to list boards more accurately as well as do their own pics, but I will more often than not check multiple shops for dimensions and shapes if I haven't seen them in person.

Sometimes that can be very annoying if they just don't have good top pics.

[close]

Shopping online only here.
„Sometimes  more square“ why are brands doing this? I hate it. People want to skate the exact same shape mostly, that’s why they buy the decks.

It doesn’t need to be FA square, but on the rounder side

Have you ever seen a DLX / Real Full SE 8.25 board?

As much as they say 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb they are pretty solid and a good all round shape and size, only a few mm longer than most of the others I had thought of before, around the 31.8 length.  It might not feel like so much of a difference when you are on it, but they work and are a good shape from the boards I had pass through my hands.


It was actually more of a pain than I thought to find a good top pic of one, but this is a Real 8.25 Full SE board for reference:

https://www.thedisturbhouse-skateshop.com/products/real-deck-ishod-peace-tree-ltd-full-se-cream-8-25


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0605/1715/5032/products/IMG_0367.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 05:26:20 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 04:00:05 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 03:28:33 AM

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Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 30, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

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Quote from: SlapMcKracken on March 30, 2023, 02:13:37 AM

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8.25 decks that are under 32 length with 14“ wb and fuller nose?


Edit: GO27 decks I just saw.
Or primitive. But do they really come in slightly different shapes with 8.25?

Somehow not hyped on April decks.

[close]

Primitive and April are shorter boards, sometimes a bit more square, but not always.


Going to extremes, FA or Hockey boards are 8.25 x 31.79 with 14.12 wb and they definitely have full noses.


Generally PS Stix boards have a wider more blunt nose and even though they might be listed as 32+ it is usually measured with the concave, where everything is measured flat across so they come in under 32 more often than not, often around 31.8 which is a fair size for most 8.25 boards in general with 14.25 or so wheelbases.

Do you have a local shop or two you can get into or only shopping online?

If only online there are some shops that tend to list boards more accurately as well as do their own pics, but I will more often than not check multiple shops for dimensions and shapes if I haven't seen them in person.

Sometimes that can be very annoying if they just don't have good top pics.

[close]

Shopping online only here.
„Sometimes  more square“ why are brands doing this? I hate it. People want to skate the exact same shape mostly, that’s why they buy the decks.

It doesn’t need to be FA square, but on the rounder side

[close]

Have you ever seen a DLX / Real Full SE 8.25 board?

As much as they say 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb they are pretty solid and a good all round shape and size, only a few mm longer than most of the others I had thought of before, around the 31.8 length.  It might not feel like so much of a difference when you are on it, but they work and are a good shape from the boards I had pass through my hands.


It was actually more of a pain than I thought to find a good top pic of one, but this is a Real 8.25 Full SE board for reference:

https://www.thedisturbhouse-skateshop.com/products/real-deck-ishod-peace-tree-ltd-full-se-cream-8-25


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0605/1715/5032/products/IMG_0367.jpg)

Thanks! Yeah would be tempted to try a full se! Good idea

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 31, 2023, 05:48:28 PM

.

Not exactly mind blowing or even that recent, but as I have heard some people say some stains don't look like BBS (and by default Generator) here is a post with a few options they might not have seen before.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CoujjE6JIUa/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BL0B on April 01, 2023, 04:38:39 PM

thanks, yup i would've guessed not BBS on a lot of those stains and wood grains.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 PM

I noticed Baker changed their 8.25s from 31.875 to 31.5 length. Anyone know the tail/nose lengths? I thought they shortened the WB as well, but looks like it's still 14.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Threadz on April 03, 2023, 04:18:34 AM

Has Passport changed their shapes?

(https://i.ibb.co/kgPnpKB/Screenshot-20230403-210403-2.png) (https://ibb.co/kgPnpKB)

Or are these just new standard Generator dimensions?

Pretty disappointed if true, as I recall their 8 & 8.125" shapes were around 14/14.125" wheelbase and 31.5" in length. These new dimensions are unskatable for me now :(

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: skatesum609 on April 03, 2023, 08:47:35 AM

Any feedback on theories 8.5 shape? Mellow steep? Squarish shape or standard popsicle?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on April 03, 2023, 09:45:51 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 PM

I noticed Baker changed their 8.25s from 31.875 to 31.5 length. Anyone know the tail/nose lengths? I thought they shortened the WB as well, but looks like it's still 14.25

Shorter tails are in my wheelhouse, so I’ll keep tabs on this.
Baker has had my favorite bbs boards, the flat ones.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 03, 2023, 04:20:22 PM

Quote from: Ok on April 03, 2023, 09:45:51 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 PM

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I noticed Baker changed their 8.25s from 31.875 to 31.5 length. Anyone know the tail/nose lengths? I thought they shortened the WB as well, but looks like it's still 14.25

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Shorter tails are in my wheelhouse, so I’ll keep tabs on this.
Baker has had my favorite bbs boards, the flat ones.

I haven't seen any, but looking up Baker or Deathwish, they might be both these dimensions, given they are out of the same house, so to speak:


https://socalskateshop.com/Deathwish-Deathspray-Brain-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-5.html

Deathwish Deathspray Brain Skateboard Deck - 8.25x31.5

 
Deck Specs:
Width: 8.25"
Length: 31.5"
Wheelbase: 14.25"
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"


The older Baker (and other BBS boards) I have in 8.25 x 31.85 or almost 32" long have just under 7" noses and pretty much 6.5" tails so it makes sense if they shortened the nose a bit more than anything else.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 03, 2023, 04:30:23 PM

Quote from: skatesum609 on April 03, 2023, 08:47:35 AM

Any feedback on theories 8.5 shape? Mellow steep? Squarish shape or standard popsicle?

If it is BBS, then they are the same 8.5 x 32.3-32.4 with 14.5 wb that is used by most of the BBS brands, a very simple, rounded tried and true shape that works for everything.  Concave might vary considerably depending on which board in the press, but others I have had (and I have a lot of them) have been on average medium concave.

If they are Clutch which they were for a bit, then they are pretty much the same dimensions, also very simple rounded shape and very "normal" popsicle shapes, just slightly different concave, but again pretty much middle of the road.


In the event that they had changed to something else, I haven't seen them so don't know, but most of those brands were back on the Generator / BBS boards when people had seen them.


The shape is the same as the 8.5 from brands like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Black Label, Passport, Magenta and lots more, in case you need to check with something you have had already or what is easily available in shops now.


Edit:

For reference and from looking at the Passport shapes which had actual photos of the board, this is the common BBS / Generator 8.5 board shape:


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0191/1588/products/0000s_0003_DECKTOP_f3397310-0511-466e-81d7-7ad9e45b6c1c_900x.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 03, 2023, 04:35:22 PM

Quote from: Threadz on April 03, 2023, 04:18:34 AM

Has Passport changed their shapes?

(https://i.ibb.co/kgPnpKB/Screenshot-20230403-210403-2.png) (https://ibb.co/kgPnpKB)

Or are these just new standard Generator dimensions?

Pretty disappointed if true, as I recall their 8 & 8.125" shapes were around 14/14.125" wheelbase and 31.5" in length. These new dimensions are unskatable for me now :(

I don't recall their shapes changing since I bought a few of them maybe two or more years ago now and I used to ride the 8.125 which was always 14.25 wb and 32 long, same as the AH black eagle shape.

They used to have a 7.875 x 31.4 with 14" wb too, so not sure if that is now out completely.  The only listings for them are now pretty old or out of stock.

Not so sure on the 8" but I have definitely had the 8.125, the 8.25, the 8.38 and the 8.5 sizes and they all line up with that size chart pretty well, which is the usual Generator dimensions.


If anything, the 8.25 was maybe a touch under 32 and the 8.38 was pretty much on 32, as it was shorter in both wheelbase and length than my DLX 8.38 boards, which are 32.25 with 14.5 wb.

Have you seen any in person, because sometimes listed dimensions can throw you off more than when you actually look at a board or skate it?


https://www.passportal.com/pages/deck-size-guide


I hadn't seen that deck size guide before, so at least that is one good thing from your post.

Thanks!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: skatesum609 on April 03, 2023, 07:45:01 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 03, 2023, 04:20:22 PM

Quote from: Ok on April 03, 2023, 09:45:51 AM

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Quote from: FatGuy92 on April 02, 2023, 08:08:23 PM

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I noticed Baker changed their 8.25s from 31.875 to 31.5 length. Anyone know the tail/nose lengths? I thought they shortened the WB as well, but looks like it's still 14.25

[close]

Shorter tails are in my wheelhouse, so I’ll keep tabs on this.
Baker has had my favorite bbs boards, the flat ones.

[close]

I haven't seen any, but looking up Baker or Deathwish, they might be both these dimensions, given they are out of the same house, so to speak:


https://socalskateshop.com/Deathwish-Deathspray-Brain-Skateboard-Deck-8-25x31-5.html

Deathwish Deathspray Brain Skateboard Deck - 8.25x31.5

 
Deck Specs:
Width: 8.25"
Length: 31.5"
Wheelbase: 14.25"
Nose: 6.75"
Tail: 6.5"


The older Baker (and other BBS boards) I have in 8.25 x 31.85 or almost 32" long have just under 7" noses and pretty much 6.5" tails so it makes sense if they shortened the nose a bit more than anything else.

Does Deathwish run the b2 shapes?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 04, 2023, 07:48:17 AM

Quote from: skatesum609 on April 03, 2023, 07:45:01 PM

Does Deathwish run the b2 shapes?

I haven't seen any that I recall.


The two I have, a B2 8.38 and a B2 8.5 are kind of funny though.  Great shape overall, long and squared off, but the dimensions are not as listed.

The B2 8.38 is more like 8.25 with 14.38 wb and 32.2 or so long.

The B2 8.5 is more like 8.3 with 14.38 wb as well and 32.3 or so long.

Both have the width stamp on top, so it is not like I got a wrong size, but these are nowhere near as wide as the same 8.38 and 8.5 in the regular OG shape boards, of which I have had lots of each.

The Baker size chart on their site has a couple of things that are slightly different for the OG shape too, such as their normal 8.38 being 32.2 or so long and their 8.5 being 32.3 long, not 32 even as listed.

I didn't think that the B2 were much steeper than the regular Baker boards either, but they don't mark them as to where they are in the stack like DLX boards, so of five or more of the same 8.5s some are more mellow and others are steeper / much the same as the B2 boards I have.  It is possible I got more mellow versions of the B2 boards, as I only have one of each so nothing to compare them to, in terms of the same boards in higher quantities, as I do with quite a few other boards.

Note - nothing is a problem to me with these boards though.  They are all good wood, good shapes and skate just fine for what I want.

For reference:

https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on April 05, 2023, 03:32:22 PM

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cqpst3-uPKo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Berries uses 2hex for its promotional boards.

Anyone every ride them? They seem to be the only Chinese factory with active marketing and branding.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on April 05, 2023, 06:10:51 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 05, 2023, 03:32:22 PM

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cqpst3-uPKo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Berries uses 2hex for its promotional boards.

Anyone every ride them? They seem to be the only Chinese factory with active marketing and branding.

A few local brands use them for decks and trucks. The decks are nothing special, standard feeling. The trucks are Indy knock offs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on April 06, 2023, 12:12:08 AM

Socal Skates has got in a new batch of shop blanks. Helpfully they state that they're made by Clutch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqqobOYvU4v/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: JimGeko on April 06, 2023, 01:25:51 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on April 06, 2023, 12:12:08 AM

Socal Skates has got in a new batch of shop blanks. Helpfully they state that they're made by Clutch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqqobOYvU4v/

Damn, that photo brought back bad memories of skating bad shop blanks in the early 2000’s.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 06, 2023, 07:25:05 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on April 05, 2023, 06:10:51 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 05, 2023, 03:32:22 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cqpst3-uPKo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Berries uses 2hex for its promotional boards.

Anyone every ride them? They seem to be the only Chinese factory with active marketing and branding.

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A few local brands use them for decks and trucks. The decks are nothing special, standard feeling. The trucks are Indy knock offs.

I was surprised one of the smaller brands locally here use their wood and try to sell the boards at near pro wood prices, as even the wholesale prices are very expensive to buy them and have them shipped here to Australia.

One guy who skates them (sort of half spono by them I guess) had one setup and I had a roll on it.  Super stiff like Dwindle with similar concave, so straight up not really something I felt happy on, but the boards held up well for him and he says they last longer than some other brands he has had.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on April 06, 2023, 07:38:08 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 06, 2023, 07:25:05 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cqpst3-uPKo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Berries uses 2hex for its promotional boards.

Anyone every ride them? They seem to be the only Chinese factory with active marketing and branding.

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A few local brands use them for decks and trucks. The decks are nothing special, standard feeling. The trucks are Indy knock offs.

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I was surprised one of the smaller brands locally here use their wood and try to sell the boards at near pro wood prices, as even the wholesale prices are very expensive to buy them and have them shipped here to Australia.

One guy who skates them (sort of half spono by them I guess) had one setup and I had a roll on it.  Super stiff like Dwindle with similar concave, so straight up not really something I felt happy on, but the boards held up well for him and he says they last longer than some other brands he has had.

Same story here, I had a friend bring in a batch of 2Hex boards and they were insanely steep, only 1 of their team riders could manage it and he had really big pop.

They even advertised their "world's lightest truck" that is supposed to weigh less than a a Tensor Maglight.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 06, 2023, 08:39:25 PM

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Adding this here:

Quote from: OhioGuy on April 06, 2023, 08:02:43 PM

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Got my Pizza decks from The Drop. Not bad for $56. (https://i.ibb.co/5Tkkqx4/57-D26918-8-C1-F-4-BBE-9-E53-DB5-CB4-DFCC11.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5Tkkqx4)

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@OhioGuy are those the 8.5 shovel nose? Any chance to give a top view?
Thanks in advance. My 8.25 arrived warped, but even so I’m loving that deck so much.

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Yeah it’s the 8.5 shovel. It’s like a mellow FA deck IMHO. Here’s the top view. I like that they’re the same color as the bottom ply. Can’t see the engraving in this pic, but they’re PS Stix.

(https://i.ibb.co/z4NcxZ1/6-BEDD2-EC-05-B6-4208-84-EA-540-C15-C91-EA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z4NcxZ1)

The sticker position is a good indicator by itself and enlarged image on this computer, I can easily see the PS Stix laser marking, so it is always good info with pics like that.

Thanks!

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I know alot of people hate on Thank You but they have a sale going on with a bunch of decks for 29 bucks to 35 bucks....i actually got some during their new year sale and i personally like the shape and the wood they use. Some of their graphics arent too horrible. Just throwing it out there if anyone is looking for cheap decks that are good quality and dont want to ride pizza. I think ill grab a couple more since i like the shape so much

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Do you know if they’re BBS or PS Stix?

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Pretty sure the ones I've seen where Dwindle (made in China).

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The 3 i have say made in Mexico, so PS Stix.

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Do they have serial numbers with PS in them? I think there are other wood shops in Mexico.

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So there was a thank you sticker over where the normal PS stix serial number etching usually would be. So i peeled it off to see if it was there and there is etching that says "7 K"....so made in mexico but maybe its not ps stix....still some good quality boards in my opinion and worth the cheap price

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If you look at the tops of any of the ty boards here, there's no identifiers that suggest PS stix or Dwindle, who both laser etch

https://www.tactics.com/thank-you/decks

Were you guys talking about the brand Pizza or Thank You before?

I kinda get the impression some of you were talking about Pizza and some about Thank You.


Also the letter and number combo is Clutch size and shape, so "7 K" would be 8.25 round on both ends with a standard wheelbase.


Thank You* -2020   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch
Thank You* 2021   ……….   ……….   Dwindle

Pizza* 2022   ……….   ……….   PS Stix
Pizza* 2021   ……….   ……….   Clutch


Woodshop thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0



Edit:


Re Tactics, looking at that board, I would say that is Clutch due to the colour of the wood stain more than anyting, then the size sticker over the front truck, which brands usually do to cover the letter and number stamps on the boards.

Unless someone confirms it, they could all be Clutch now, or some of the pricepoint boards on something else, so really it is more just an educated guess at this point.



https://www.tactics.com/thank-you/hijinx-x-thank-you-pudwill-elephant-825-skateboard-deck


(https://www.tactics.com/a/e5ww/1b/thank-you-hijinx-x-thank-you-pudwill-elephant-825-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 06, 2023, 08:44:35 PM

Quote from: fernando the skater on April 06, 2023, 12:12:08 AM

Socal Skates has got in a new batch of shop blanks. Helpfully they state that they're made by Clutch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqqobOYvU4v/

Thanks for posting!


Interesting to see the different concaves in some of those boards too, especially the angle of the kicks, eg from left to right the pink and burgundy stain boards seem like they have very steep concave compared to the green stain beside it.

Could just be the angle and my eye more than anything, but the shapes look interesting too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 07, 2023, 06:25:59 AM

Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on April 07, 2023, 10:03:21 AM

Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 05:56:52 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on April 07, 2023, 06:25:59 AM

Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?

I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 06:07:31 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on April 07, 2023, 10:03:21 AM

Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.

I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 02:35:37 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 05:56:52 PM

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Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?

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I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?

i know that sometimes Skatedeluxe is off with the measurements but it's probably the best solution right now. I just don't like browsing on skateboarding amazon...
thanks, you're the best but don't bother. I have them at the shop too, i was just being lazy and didn't want to bother myself with conversions from metric to imperial.

I'm making a run of boards with shape and dimensions supposed to be really close to FA/Hockey's.
I wanted to compare before getting the boards at the shop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on April 08, 2023, 03:39:01 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 06:07:31 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on April 07, 2023, 10:03:21 AM

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Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.

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I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.

I know that magenta now have two concaves - the old more mellowish one and since last year they make some models with the new steeper one. I had one deck from 2021 that was more mellow and it felt kind of soft very fast and chipped easier. Now i am skating another one from the last year that has this steeper concave and it feels more solid and have only 1 tiny chip after 2 months of only street skating. Now it feels softer but the first month the pop was super crisp,

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on April 08, 2023, 07:22:01 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on April 08, 2023, 03:39:01 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2023, 06:07:31 PM

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Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.

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I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.

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I know that magenta now have two concaves - the old more mellowish one and since last year they make some models with the new steeper one. I had one deck from 2021 that was more mellow and it felt kind of soft very fast and chipped easier. Now i am skating another one from the last year that has this steeper concave and it feels more solid and have only 1 tiny chip after 2 months of only street skating. Now it feels softer but the first month the pop was super crisp,

Thanks ! I know that steeper molds can make a deck feel stiffer for sure…I just never knew if they offered a higher grade veneer or setup. It’s probably marketing😀 the new BL series have super steep kicks for sure.

I agree about Magenta decks, they used to chip on the edges super easy but have improved recently.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on April 08, 2023, 01:14:09 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 02:35:37 AM

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Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?

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I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?

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i know that sometimes Skatedeluxe is off with the measurements but it's probably the best solution right now. I just don't like browsing on skateboarding amazon...
thanks, you're the best but don't bother. I have them at the shop too, i was just being lazy and didn't want to bother myself with conversions from metric to imperial.

I'm making a run of boards with shape and dimensions supposed to be really close to FA/Hockey's.
I wanted to compare before getting the boards at the shop.

I'd like to suggest you get a measurement tape with both metric and inch measurements on it. Those are so good for measuring decks. I think every shop should have one or at the very least a tape with inches on it. It's such a fucking chore converting from metric to inches and you always get some funky numbers which you end up doubting if they're this or that. I had a hard time finding one in Finland but in the end found one in one of the cheapest tool shops we have, Swedish Biltema.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2023, 01:23:12 PM

I had one and broke it recently, i miss it  ;)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 09, 2023, 02:48:05 AM

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I found another account for a guy who makes his own boards, more specifically some big, long, wide and very much custom to order type of things, which is always so good.


https://texicanskateboards.bigcartel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/texicanskateboards/

Frank Gardner
Custom made skateboard decks, pressed in molds made with my own 2 hands.
Not just a brand name.
If it was, why bother?
100% Texican
texicanskateboards.bigcartel.com


Some pics from his store, seeing as Instagram posts are not loading / on a privacy setting that doesn't allow reposting.


(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/357658753/Screenshot_20230329_151614_Instagram.jpg)


(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/357668827/Screenshot_20230329_151653_Instagram.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 02:08:41 AM

New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 12:53:05 PM

Palace 8.25 specs look so good. Not into palace but maybe I’ll try one.
Nose could be a bit fuller and it would be perfect.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 13, 2023, 06:26:09 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 02:08:41 AM

New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.

If I get this right, people have said Quasi and GX1000 are from the same people / place / distro and last thing I recall others had said about it was they were going ahead with both PS Stix and BBS for their boards for the foreseeable future.

Something to do with their riders, some liking PS Stix, some liking BBS, with other people saying they could ensure they have the most options with their products.


At least it is interesting to hear / see companies / distribution places doing this, as most will go all in with just one woodshop / supplier and stick with it until something better comes up.

Either way it is always interesting to hear how many boards are X and how many boards are Y woodshop in their latest releases.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on April 13, 2023, 09:59:19 PM

http://www.instagram.com/p/Cn5YfjmAP9M/ (http://www.instagram.com/p/Cn5YfjmAP9M/)
scam skate out of winnipeg canada, not sure who they make. looks like you can order custom decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on April 14, 2023, 06:05:05 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 13, 2023, 06:26:09 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 02:08:41 AM

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New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.

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If I get this right, people have said Quasi and GX1000 are from the same people / place / distro and last thing I recall others had said about it was they were going ahead with both PS Stix and BBS for their boards for the foreseeable future.

Something to do with their riders, some liking PS Stix, some liking BBS, with other people saying they could ensure they have the most options with their products.


At least it is interesting to hear / see companies / distribution places doing this, as most will go all in with just one woodshop / supplier and stick with it until something better comes up.

Either way it is always interesting to hear how many boards are X and how many boards are Y woodshop in their latest releases.

That was definitely the reason for Quasi doing boards from both woodshops. I'm interested if there is a connection between Quasi and GX. I'd never heard that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 14, 2023, 11:56:47 AM

I heard quasi and GX have the same shapes, but never really knew if true.


Do you guys know the tail lengths of 8 and 8.125 AWS and GX decks? The new GX seem to be differ t again.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Nth syd bear on April 14, 2023, 01:17:49 PM

I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 14, 2023, 02:21:53 PM

Quote from: Nth syd bear on April 14, 2023, 01:17:49 PM

I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good

Yeah looked on both too, but unfortunately skatedeluxe only has one old 8.125 Alien and no 8/8.125
Gx from the new drop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 14, 2023, 06:29:36 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 14, 2023, 02:21:53 PM

Quote from: Nth syd bear on April 14, 2023, 01:17:49 PM

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I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good

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Yeah looked on both too, but unfortunately skatedeluxe only has one old 8.125 Alien and no 8/8.125
Gx from the new drop.

I know some people don't like certain shop sites as they think they are unreliable, but I would say check out these following sites to get more info (for GX1000 and Quasi that is):


https://gx1000.com/

Has info on which woodshop they use

eg:

https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/drug-cult-8-0

Details:
■8" X 31.625" WB 14"
■ Manufactured at BBS


https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/stick-up-8-125

Details:
■8.125" X 31.75" WB 14.125"
■ Manufactured at BBS


https://www.tactics.com/search/gx1000

https://www.tactics.com/search/quasi/decks

Has info on board dimensions including nose and tails

eg:

https://www.tactics.com/gx1000/dmt-i-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.375


https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/crockett-horses-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.375


Then:

https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/poem-8125-skateboard-deck

PECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.375
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.81
TAIL (IN):   6.43

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 14, 2023, 08:15:24 PM

Quote from: pointandclick on April 13, 2023, 09:59:19 PM

scam skate out of winnipeg canada, not sure who they make. looks like you can order custom decks.

Yeah, a one stop shop, in every sense of the word.

Skate shop, ramp, presses and automated machinery with a heat transfer machine.

That's pretty cool to see.



https://www.instagram.com/scamskate/

Scam Skate
Not your ordinary SK8 shop. Check out our in-house ramp and skateboard manufacturing!



https://www.instagram.com/p/CU-agADgxTo/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQMs68egkau/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 14, 2023, 08:30:01 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 14, 2023, 11:56:47 AM

I heard quasi and GX have the same shapes, but never really knew if true.


Do you guys know the tail lengths of 8 and 8.125 AWS and GX decks? The new GX seem to be differ t again.

I should have read over it better, but yeah, re Alien Workshop decks in 8.0 and 8.125, from Tactics again:


https://www.tactics.com/search/alien/decks


Not sure how accurate some of those measurements were, as it seemed like this one had left out something, so I filled it in - it had 14.5 wb which is definitely not correct.


SPECS
SIZE   8.0
WIDTH (IN):   8.0
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.5


https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/thrasher-x-alien-believe-80-skateboard-deck/orange-graphic

SPECS
SIZE   8.0
WIDTH (IN):   8.0
LENGTH (IN):   31.625
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.9
TAIL (IN):   6.5


https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/guevara-mojave-owl-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.5
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.0
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bigfoot is real on April 15, 2023, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on April 06, 2023, 12:12:08 AM

Socal Skates has got in a new batch of shop blanks. Helpfully they state that they're made by Clutch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqqobOYvU4v/

if it is clutch, they look like they're in the correct place! the only purpose a clutch board has is to be focused against a curb like that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 16, 2023, 03:23:48 AM

Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 16, 2023, 05:05:09 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 16, 2023, 03:23:48 AM

Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.

If it helps here's a top down view of an 8.1 Palace board. Wouldn't say they're heavier imo, atleast to me they're just run of the mill DSM boards nothing spectacular but nothing necessarily bad either. Tail feels a little pointy.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018039657818234891/1097129916392280164/IMG_20230416_125904_1.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 16, 2023, 05:40:19 AM

Quote from: cosmicgypsies on April 16, 2023, 05:05:09 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 16, 2023, 03:23:48 AM

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Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.

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If it helps here's a top down view of an 8.1 Palace board. Wouldn't say they're heavier imo, atleast to me they're just run of the mill DSM boards nothing spectacular but nothing necessarily bad either. Tail feels a little pointy.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018039657818234891/1097129916392280164/IMG_20230416_125904_1.jpg)

Thanks!

Really looks pretty long and pointy here.
I find them 8.25‘s interesting cause they are not that long though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: franquietits on April 16, 2023, 10:41:00 AM

Open Source skate for custom made shapes. pretty interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD-hozTlwM4

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 16, 2023, 08:15:41 PM

.


Another small custom board maker, from NSW, Australia.


https://www.instagram.com/kin_skateboards/


IN SKATEBOARDS
Handmade in Northern NSW, Australia.
kinskateboards.com.au coming soon!



https://www.instagram.com/p/ClQOKeOhzGw/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cle-eNWhDPJ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 16, 2023, 08:48:35 PM

Quote from: franquietits on April 16, 2023, 10:41:00 AM

Open Source skate for custom made shapes. pretty interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD-hozTlwM4

That was an interesting watch.

I think the main thing here is people outside of the normal size, shape, height, length of limbs often don't fit what might be considered a normal skateboard, which is why there are so many more diverse sizes in boards coming out in recent years, especially in the shorter overall board length, with comparable wheelbases, such as the DLX Tru Fit sized boards.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2023

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sp23-d1-02.png)


At least that way a lot more people should be able to get a shorter board that would be a lot easier for them to skate.


As to Open Source Skateboards, the guy sure does a lot of interesting things, as per the instagram account I see I already follow, but it is worth a look for anyone else too.


https://www.instagram.com/opensourceboards/


Most recent post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CrGyZNkJ9Fg/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: powerhazard on April 17, 2023, 09:23:44 AM

Any experiences with Point Distribution in here? Their website is a mess.

I'm looking for a place that does small runs (think 10-20 decks) for a project.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 01:24:21 PM

Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on April 18, 2023, 02:29:30 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 01:24:21 PM

Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?

Primitive has 8.25 with 14 wb and 31.875 length which is gonna be perfect for you - Prod is rocking this combo with the ventures ;)
Girl/chocolate has 3 shapes 8.25 with 14 wb and around 31.8 https://crailtap.com/shapes The tails are on the steeper side and some people here have said they didnt like this combo, I have tried a friends board with this longer tail shape G027 but it was with thunder 147 which is lower to the ground and it was good, but if it was with higher trucks i bet i wouldnt touch it.
April skateboards also have 8.25 with 14 wb but they are listed with 31,92 length.

Edit:
Oh, i forgot about the Real true fit shapes that have been released recently https://www.realskateboards.com - 8.25 is 31.5 long and has 13.88 wb which combined with the ventures is gonna hell of a setup, if it s not too short for your legs ;)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 18, 2023, 03:08:13 AM

Quote from: powerhazard on April 17, 2023, 09:23:44 AM

Any experiences with Point Distribution in here? Their website is a mess.

I'm looking for a place that does small runs (think 10-20 decks) for a project.

No personal experience, but in the main search for Point Distribution there are two pages from Shoes and Gear that have some relevant links and info.


Small run thread from a while back might be of interest:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102571.0

Quote from: clintendo on December 14, 2018, 05:14:30 PM

Quote from: Chatbot on December 13, 2018, 10:07:43 AM

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I don't know how many boards you want but Point Distribution has a 25 deck minimum. Good quality for sure. I've exclusively been skating their decks since 2012. Also, no resale license or documents needed.

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Can vouch for this, I did a run through them back in 2012 and were some of the best boards we ever got, they even let us use our custom 8.8" shape which I think they actually continued on using as it was solid shape for a steep concave Popsicle

Mellow decks thread:

Quote from: backinaction on October 26, 2020, 07:36:44 PM

Quote from: TwisT on October 26, 2020, 07:05:58 PM

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https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards

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 Point Distribution Mellow = approximate 19.25°nose and 18.5°tail with a medium center concave.

Powell K20 decks have mellower kicks  = 18°nose and 18°tail

Point wheels - not quite decks, but a comment anyway:

Quote from: Noble Experiment on June 18, 2014, 01:32:12 PM

Point wheels aren't that bad; I've had a few sets. Durability-wise they could be better, I've had sets that I've flatspotted pretty quickly and they don't last as long as a lot of other wheels.
Feeling-wise I'd say they're pretty good. They give a real good slide and they have just the right amount of grip.
Point's warehouse is in the same city I live in, and their stuff is obviously pretty easily accessible here, so I find myself riding Point product quite often. For the price it's really not that bad at all.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 18, 2023, 03:11:13 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on April 18, 2023, 02:29:30 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 01:24:21 PM

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Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?

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Primitive has 8.25 with 14 wb and 31.875 length which is gonna be perfect for you - Prod is rocking this combo with the ventures ;)
Girl/chocolate has 3 shapes 8.25 with 14 wb and around 31.8 https://crailtap.com/shapes The tails are on the steeper side and some people here have said they didnt like this combo, I have tried a friends board with this longer tail shape G027 but it was with thunder 147 which is lower to the ground and it was good, but if it was with higher trucks i bet i wouldnt touch it.
April skateboards also have 8.25 with 14 wb but they are listed with 31,92 length.

Edit:
Oh, i forgot about the Real true fit shapes that have been released recently https://www.realskateboards.com - 8.25 is 31.5 long and has 13.88 wb which combined with the ventures is gonna hell of a setup, if it s not too short for your legs ;)

I was thinking Girl / Chocolate would have had something like that but forgot to look them up.

People have said they are good boards, even though I haven't really seen many or skated any for a while now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 18, 2023, 04:18:21 AM

Thanks! Yeah, chocolate looks pretty good for this. Primitive also.

Not sure if 31.5 is too short for my legs. I’m 6‘1, but I think I had such short decks before with no isses. Not sure if I even like short decks; but I want to give it a try again.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: powerhazard on April 18, 2023, 06:15:57 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 18, 2023, 03:08:13 AM

Quote from: powerhazard on April 17, 2023, 09:23:44 AM

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Any experiences with Point Distribution in here? Their website is a mess.

I'm looking for a place that does small runs (think 10-20 decks) for a project.

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No personal experience, but in the main search for Point Distribution there are two pages from Shoes and Gear that have some relevant links and info.


Small run thread from a while back might be of interest:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102571.0

Quote from: clintendo on December 14, 2018, 05:14:30 PM

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Quote from: Chatbot on December 13, 2018, 10:07:43 AM

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I don't know how many boards you want but Point Distribution has a 25 deck minimum. Good quality for sure. I've exclusively been skating their decks since 2012. Also, no resale license or documents needed.

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Can vouch for this, I did a run through them back in 2012 and were some of the best boards we ever got, they even let us use our custom 8.8" shape which I think they actually continued on using as it was solid shape for a steep concave Popsicle

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Mellow decks thread:

Quote from: backinaction on October 26, 2020, 07:36:44 PM

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Quote from: TwisT on October 26, 2020, 07:05:58 PM

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https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards

[close]

 Point Distribution Mellow = approximate 19.25°nose and 18.5°tail with a medium center concave.

Powell K20 decks have mellower kicks  = 18°nose and 18°tail

[close]

Point wheels - not quite decks, but a comment anyway:

Quote from: Noble Experiment on June 18, 2014, 01:32:12 PM

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Point wheels aren't that bad; I've had a few sets. Durability-wise they could be better, I've had sets that I've flatspotted pretty quickly and they don't last as long as a lot of other wheels.
Feeling-wise I'd say they're pretty good. They give a real good slide and they have just the right amount of grip.
Point's warehouse is in the same city I live in, and their stuff is obviously pretty easily accessible here, so I find myself riding Point product quite often. For the price it's really not that bad at all.

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Thanks for your feedback, links and the references!
Looks like they do smaller runs than 25 now, so looking into it a bit more.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 21, 2023, 01:00:21 PM

AWS or FA ; which one has steeper kicks?

What are GO27 kicks like? Mellow? Comparable to something?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 21, 2023, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 21, 2023, 01:00:21 PM

AWS or FA ; which one has steeper kicks?

What are GO27 kicks like? Mellow? Comparable to something?

I feel like FA / Hockey boards have had the steepest kicks I have seen and felt in a long time.

There are some other boards out there with even steeper, or higher angle when measured, but we are not talking about them right now.


If anyone has that measuring app on their phone, most boards come in around 20 to 22 degrees, which I would call about average.

Steeper boards are up to 25 degrees or more, whereas mellow boards tend to be around the 17 to 18 degrees, then even less when flattened.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on April 21, 2023, 09:23:14 PM

Quote from: El Freegano on April 18, 2023, 02:29:30 AM

Quote from: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 01:24:21 PM

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Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?

[close]

Primitive has 8.25 with 14 wb and 31.875 length which is gonna be perfect for you - Prod is rocking this combo with the ventures ;)
Girl/chocolate has 3 shapes 8.25 with 14 wb and around 31.8 https://crailtap.com/shapes The tails are on the steeper side and some people here have said they didnt like this combo, I have tried a friends board with this longer tail shape G027 but it was with thunder 147 which is lower to the ground and it was good, but if it was with higher trucks i bet i wouldnt touch it.
April skateboards also have 8.25 with 14 wb but they are listed with 31,92 length.

Edit:
Oh, i forgot about the Real true fit shapes that have been released recently https://www.realskateboards.com - 8.25 is 31.5 long and has 13.88 wb which combined with the ventures is gonna hell of a setup, if it s not too short for your legs ;)

You were exactly right.
I haven’t had a primitive, but I had an April 8.125x14wb, just less than 32”, long kicks.
I learned that I don’t like long noses, or tails. I would need to just not be a moron, and adjust where I put my popping foot (further down in the pocket, not on the tip). I like the tip. The tip is all I’ve ever known.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 05:44:28 AM

Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on April 22, 2023, 07:23:04 AM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 05:44:28 AM

Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 07:46:46 AM

Quote from: Ok on April 22, 2023, 07:23:04 AM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 05:44:28 AM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

[close]

Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on April 22, 2023, 08:50:25 AM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 07:46:46 AM

Quote from: Ok on April 22, 2023, 07:23:04 AM

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Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 05:44:28 AM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

[close]

Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

[close]

Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

Nah, I meant that I couldn’t tell if it was palace being goofy with their descriptions, or if they truly had an outlier.
I take your interest at face value.
It’d be a fun board to try for certain. I haven’t skated anything like it. The closest scenario, from a wb and length standpoint, would maybe be the boards of the 80s, but the tail nose ratio is obviously way different.

I’m very short, so it most likely wouldn’t work well for me. Oddly the Griffin shape worked great for me, with 149 thunders, long wb, long length (but not above 32). That setup kinda freaked me out a little because it went against several things I thought I knew worked for me: shorter length, shorter wb, narrow, it’s the opposite of all of that.
The rabbit hole that experience was leading me towards, I just decided I couldn’t handle: tail length. The tail on his shape is the same as the 7.75 I’ve always liked.


At this point…I mean I’m old, so old, and bad. This much thought for a couple of shit switch flips isn’t worth it.

I need to get a gif or signature or some shit that shows my lack of ability, so people can reference that after I espouse my opinions. I don’t have what you want.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 12:47:12 PM

Quote from: Ok on April 22, 2023, 08:50:25 AM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 07:46:46 AM

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Quote from: Ok on April 22, 2023, 07:23:04 AM

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Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 05:44:28 AM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

[close]

Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

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Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

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Nah, I meant that I couldn’t tell if it was palace being goofy with their descriptions, or if they truly had an outlier.
I take your interest at face value.
It’d be a fun board to try for certain. I haven’t skated anything like it. The closest scenario, from a wb and length standpoint, would maybe be the boards of the 80s, but the tail nose ratio is obviously way different.

I’m very short, so it most likely wouldn’t work well for me. Oddly the Griffin shape worked great for me, with 149 thunders, long wb, long length (but not above 32). That setup kinda freaked me out a little because it went against several things I thought I knew worked for me: shorter length, shorter wb, narrow, it’s the opposite of all of that.
The rabbit hole that experience was leading me towards, I just decided I couldn’t handle: tail length. The tail on his shape is the same as the 7.75 I’ve always liked.


At this point…I mean I’m old, so old, and bad. This much thought for a couple of shit switch flips isn’t worth it.

I need to get a gif or signature or some shit that shows my lack of ability, so people can reference that after I espouse my opinions. I don’t have what you want.

Lol I gotchu.

Yea it's def over 14.5 WB. They might measure from the middle of the holes though because I wasn't getting quite 14.8 w/e when I measured to the inside of each hole

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Roisto on April 22, 2023, 01:14:36 PM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 12:47:12 PM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

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Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

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Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

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Nah, I meant that I couldn’t tell if it was palace being goofy with their descriptions, or if they truly had an outlier.
I take your interest at face value.
It’d be a fun board to try for certain. I haven’t skated anything like it. The closest scenario, from a wb and length standpoint, would maybe be the boards of the 80s, but the tail nose ratio is obviously way different.

I’m very short, so it most likely wouldn’t work well for me. Oddly the Griffin shape worked great for me, with 149 thunders, long wb, long length (but not above 32). That setup kinda freaked me out a little because it went against several things I thought I knew worked for me: shorter length, shorter wb, narrow, it’s the opposite of all of that.
The rabbit hole that experience was leading me towards, I just decided I couldn’t handle: tail length. The tail on his shape is the same as the 7.75 I’ve always liked.


At this point…I mean I’m old, so old, and bad. This much thought for a couple of shit switch flips isn’t worth it.

I need to get a gif or signature or some shit that shows my lack of ability, so people can reference that after I espouse my opinions. I don’t have what you want.

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Lol I gotchu.

Yea it's def over 14.5 WB. They might measure from the middle of the holes though because I wasn't getting quite 14.8 w/e when I measured to the inside of each hole

Correct way is middle to middle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 02:02:27 PM

Quote from: SFC91 on April 22, 2023, 01:41:01 PM

Trying out a toy machine 8.25 from a clearance sale. Anyone know what manufacture made the shape? There is a stamp reading "7 C" on the top. Thanks in Advance.

I think these days the TM pro boards are PS and the team boards are a Chinese wood shop that we don’t seem to know the name of.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

In case anyone wants to see a deck by Old School Skateboards, a wood shop in Philly. Cross post from 9”+ thread below.

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Old School Skateboards—a wood shop out of Philly—does single orders and I got this blank fishtail they call the Trenton. Arrived today!

Very, very fun. 9.125x32x16” WB. And the deck itself feels top shelf. It was $45 shipped (to Maryland).

Funny enough, I’d asked in the DLX thread about the Krooked Barbee shape, which has similar dimensions to this board so I was able to grab the right tricks and get this thing set up quickly.


(https://i.ibb.co/FWZMP3L/8-CEEF4-A5-6-CB4-4-ACB-B735-C2-C6-C58-DD71-B.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/S7PG2YW/4-B20-C9-B2-0530-4-CA2-A172-F9457-EEAA5-AB.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 22, 2023, 04:53:12 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 02:02:27 PM

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Trying out a toy machine 8.25 from a clearance sale. Anyone know what manufacture made the shape? There is a stamp reading "7 C" on the top. Thanks in Advance.

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I think these days the TM pro boards are PS and the team boards are a Chinese wood shop that we don’t seem to know the name of.

Yeah Toy Machine has been one of those companies that seemed to get wood from anywhere and everywhere in the last few years, mix and match if you will, with pics from Skate Warehouse and other places showing some on PS Stix, others with no markings at all and "Made in China" stickers, then others from BBS, Clutch, etc.

That particular board and any other with a "letter / number" combination is from Clutch, of which there are a lot, or were from around 2021-2022, but could also still be current stock as well.

Some people don't like them, but they are a solid board that comes from a decent woodshop, one of the big three, Clutch, PS Stix and BBS, all just over the border from USA in Mexico.


As to 7 C, I would guess that is the 8.25 in a shape I don't quite know, but the letter refers to the shape and the number to the size in that shape, as per info here:


https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1


That orange stain sure does stand out nicely too!


Edit:


@SFC91 How did it skate for you?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 22, 2023, 05:19:55 PM

Quote from: IpathCats on April 22, 2023, 07:46:46 AM

Quote from: Ok on April 22, 2023, 07:23:04 AM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

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Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

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Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

Other people I know had wanted to try it, more so cause it was on a good sale and they just saw the width, but they are more into the shorter wheelbase boards, so they didn't get one, otherwise I would have seen it too.

Some people who have had it said it was over 32" long, so not quite the 31.3 or something that was advertised, but definitely in the longer wheelbase category, 14.75 sort of size.


As to Dwindle, the Dwindle company is a different entity to the DSM woodshop, so as far as people had said, the woodshop is still not affected and will continue production as usual, just the Dwindle umbrella of brands now converted to generic department store type of thing, budget completes or whatever.

There were a couple of threads about it, under Dwindle and Bill Weiss or something that had a few pages of info, some of it quite interesting.


Bill Weiss thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125059.0


Enjoi is dead thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125448.0


All started with this:

Quote from: bongboarder420 on August 23, 2019, 09:07:23 AM

Globe sold dwindle to highline industries, whose parent company Transom Capital Group also owns protec and sector 9

https://www.shop-eat-surf.com/2019/08/globe-international-sells-dwindle-skate-brands/
https://skatenewswire.com/globe-sells-dwindle/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: IpathCats on April 23, 2023, 07:23:18 AM

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Does anyone know if the shit going on at dwindle right now will affect the DSM woodshop?

Are palace boards still going to be made there with the resin 7 construction?

Are there any other brands that have the 8.38 palace shape with the 14.8 w/e wheelbase?

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Good ?s

You like that shape? Seemed a wild one. Couldn’t tell if it was a taking the piss situation with the technical descriptions/dimensions or what.
I do like short nose and tail so idk

Haven’t had a palace in beyond forever.

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Nah, I'm being serious.

I haven't skated it yet, but I'm stoked to. 8.38 is my preferred width, and I'm 6' 4" so I like a long WB. Haven't skated a resin deck since I was a kid. But I remember loving almosts when I was in highschool, especially how stiff they were and how they retained their stiffness. Probably jumping the gun a bit, but I feel like I'm gonna love this palace after gripping it and standing on it. Kicks look slightly steeper than normal which I like too.

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Other people I know had wanted to try it, more so cause it was on a good sale and they just saw the width, but they are more into the shorter wheelbase boards, so they didn't get one, otherwise I would have seen it too.

Some people who have had it said it was over 32" long, so not quite the 31.3 or something that was advertised, but definitely in the longer wheelbase category, 14.75 sort of size.


As to Dwindle, the Dwindle company is a different entity to the DSM woodshop, so as far as people had said, the woodshop is still not affected and will continue production as usual, just the Dwindle umbrella of brands now converted to generic department store type of thing, budget completes or whatever.

There were a couple of threads about it, under Dwindle and Bill Weiss or something that had a few pages of info, some of it quite interesting.


Bill Weiss thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125059.0


Enjoi is dead thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125448.0


All started with this:

Quote from: bongboarder420 on August 23, 2019, 09:07:23 AM

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Globe sold dwindle to highline industries, whose parent company Transom Capital Group also owns protec and sector 9

https://www.shop-eat-surf.com/2019/08/globe-international-sells-dwindle-skate-brands/
https://skatenewswire.com/globe-sells-dwindle/

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Thanks man! You're the most helpful dude on SLAP haha

Gnar'd for the thorough reply with links and shit

Edit: and in regards to the length of that 8.38 palace shape. It is almost identical to the 8.38 deluxe shape in length 32.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2023, 04:17:40 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

In case anyone wants to see a deck by Old School Skateboards, a wood shop in Philly. Cross post from 9”+ thread below.

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Old School Skateboards—a wood shop out of Philly—does single orders and I got this blank fishtail they call the Trenton. Arrived today!

Very, very fun. 9.125x32x16” WB. And the deck itself feels top shelf. It was $45 shipped (to Maryland).

Funny enough, I’d asked in the DLX thread about the Krooked Barbee shape, which has similar dimensions to this board so I was able to grab the right tricks and get this thing set up quickly.

That's a good one!


Crazy big tails on some of those boards, but still a lot of fun.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 24, 2023, 04:18:39 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

In case anyone wants to see a deck by Old School Skateboards, a wood shop in Philly. Cross post from 9”+ thread below.

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Old School Skateboards—a wood shop out of Philly—does single orders and I got this blank fishtail they call the Trenton. Arrived today!

Very, very fun. 9.125x32x16” WB. And the deck itself feels top shelf. It was $45 shipped (to Maryland).

Funny enough, I’d asked in the DLX thread about the Krooked Barbee shape, which has similar dimensions to this board so I was able to grab the right tricks and get this thing set up quickly.

I hadn't heard of that before either.


https://www.instagram.com/oldschoolskateboards/

Old School Skateboard Company
Brand
Skateboard manufacturer in Philadelphia, PA. 🛹
Excellent Quality, Handcrafted decks.
Design your custom skateboards👇
oldschoolskateboardco.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYdP6apUqZ/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 24, 2023, 06:02:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 24, 2023, 04:18:39 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

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In case anyone wants to see a deck by Old School Skateboards, a wood shop in Philly. Cross post from 9”+ thread below.

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Old School Skateboards—a wood shop out of Philly—does single orders and I got this blank fishtail they call the Trenton. Arrived today!

Very, very fun. 9.125x32x16” WB. And the deck itself feels top shelf. It was $45 shipped (to Maryland).

Funny enough, I’d asked in the DLX thread about the Krooked Barbee shape, which has similar dimensions to this board so I was able to grab the right tricks and get this thing set up quickly.

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I hadn't heard of that before either.


https://www.instagram.com/oldschoolskateboards/

Old School Skateboard Company
Brand
Skateboard manufacturer in Philadelphia, PA. 🛹
Excellent Quality, Handcrafted decks.
Design your custom skateboards👇
oldschoolskateboardco.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYdP6apUqZ/

I can also attest to their boards. I got a custom shape and graphic from them and the board feels excellent. 7.63 board but shaped like larger popsicles. *Edit different pic and shape info

(https://i.ibb.co/R36vC8p/PXL-20230330-024108485.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R36vC8p)(https://i.ibb.co/BNzfFJ0/PXL-20230403-223611602.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BNzfFJ0)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on April 24, 2023, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on April 24, 2023, 06:02:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 24, 2023, 04:18:39 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on April 22, 2023, 03:52:14 PM

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In case anyone wants to see a deck by Old School Skateboards, a wood shop in Philly. Cross post from 9”+ thread below.

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Old School Skateboards—a wood shop out of Philly—does single orders and I got this blank fishtail they call the Trenton. Arrived today!

Very, very fun. 9.125x32x16” WB. And the deck itself feels top shelf. It was $45 shipped (to Maryland).

Funny enough, I’d asked in the DLX thread about the Krooked Barbee shape, which has similar dimensions to this board so I was able to grab the right tricks and get this thing set up quickly.

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I hadn't heard of that before either.


https://www.instagram.com/oldschoolskateboards/

Old School Skateboard Company
Brand
Skateboard manufacturer in Philadelphia, PA. 🛹
Excellent Quality, Handcrafted decks.
Design your custom skateboards👇
oldschoolskateboardco.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYdP6apUqZ/

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I can also attest to their boards. I got a custom shape and graphic from them and the board feels excellent. 

(https://i.ibb.co/R36vC8p/PXL-20230330-024108485.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R36vC8p)(https://i.ibb.co/Pj5W5XS/PXL-20230330-024132787.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pj5W5XS)

Stoked to hear that!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 25, 2023, 05:05:00 PM

Quote from: SFC91 on April 22, 2023, 01:41:01 PM

Trying out a toy machine 8.25 from a clearance sale. Anyone know what manufacture made the shape? There is a stamp reading "7 C" on the top. Thanks in Advance.

That particular board and any other with a "letter / number" combination is from Clutch, of which there are a lot, or were from around 2021-2022, but could also still be current stock as well.



@SFC91 How did it skate for you?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 25, 2023, 05:06:31 PM

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Another new one, as per a post in the setup thread:

Quote from: Cesspool86 on April 25, 2023, 04:56:30 PM

Hello all. Longtime lurker first time poster so I figured I'd post the whip. 

Custom board made by the homie Ben of nomatter skateboards.  8 x 31 with 14 inch wheelbase
Thunder 147 with hard bushings
Spitfire lil smokies 48 mm
Mob grip
(https://i.ibb.co/PQnH91D/IMG-20230421-183551164.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PQnH91D)

https://www.instagram.com/nomatterskateboards/

NOMATTER Skateboards
Hand-made decks. Original art and commissions.
Est. 2022
Holyoke, Mass
nomatterskateboards.bigcartel.com



https://www.instagram.com/p/CpqiKsxuOBr/

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChAhEStJATG/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 27, 2023, 06:01:22 PM

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I thought this might be good here as well:

Quote from: Ok on April 27, 2023, 06:45:08 AM

Baker shapes are good.
I have a shop deck that the person specified as being ‘generator’ (not bbs…I’ve heard that generator is just a place that does graphics, I’ve also heard they have a few presses and make boards, I dunno). The board looks like a baker. Flatter, less of the dramatics concave from the side view.
Anyways, something is very pleasing to me, about the classic baker shape, the pointy, the flat, the smaller tails…noses are bigger than I like, but their boards look good on hand, and from above.

Re Generator, my understanding is this:

BBS is the manufacturer / woodshop that makes the boards for many top tier brands including Baker.  Generator is their wholesale board distributor or "in house" retail arm, more so for smaller brands and shop boards (blanks) that do not or cannot go directly to BBS. 

As a lot of the shapes and molds are different within BBS, there are dedicated molds for certain top brands, but there are also dedicated molds for Generator blanks, so what you would get as a shop board is often going to be slightly different to what Baker or similar brands have as their own concaves, due to different molds being used, even though they are out of the same place.

That way they can keep things separate so people can't just go get "blanks / shop boards" instead of a Baker board, keeping the branding and the product in a different line, blanks and shop boards being cheaper, pro boards being more expensive.

A Generator board sticker, which is on a shop board:


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/ocd-keys-8-125-skateboard-deck

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0475/6461/9930/products/OCD-Keys8.125_SkateboardDeck_ab4cd51d-9e70-489a-a6b2-b4b29731d06d_768x.jpg)


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/374147319268

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yKEAAOSw-zRjhS1n/s-l1600.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 27, 2023, 06:32:47 PM

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* I forgot to add, BBS is just over the border in Mexico, but Generator have their office in Oceanside, California.


https://www.generatordistribution.com/about-1-1


Our boards are manufactured exclusively with BBS MFG. in Mexico.  Printing, transferring, packaging & distribution is done at our facility in Oceanside California. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 29, 2023, 12:07:54 AM

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Another interesting find...

Quote from: rocklobster on April 27, 2023, 08:24:15 PM

Looks like they finally caved and are selling blanks like PS Stix
https://skatesamples.com/

(https://i.ibb.co/Mg7x88g/Skate-Samples-site.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wd4FJJd)

Quote from: TwisT on April 28, 2023, 03:20:55 PM

Quote from: minilogoflow on April 28, 2023, 02:22:46 PM

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Quote from: TwisT on April 28, 2023, 01:22:00 PM

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Quote from: Ourladyoftheflowers on April 28, 2023, 10:32:07 AM

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Quote from: Nth syd bear on April 27, 2023, 10:14:57 PM

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Quote from: rocklobster on April 27, 2023, 08:24:15 PM

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Looks like they finally caved and are selling blanks like PS Stix
https://skatesamples.com/

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Looks like shipping within the US only
Still would be interesting to see the dims on the regular decks
I see the shaped ones have length and wb listed but not the pops

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This just made my day. With spring hitting I’ve been toasting decks in three weeks and it’s killing the bank account. Gonna order an 8.5 I’ll update with dimensions when I get it

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Woodchuck laminates sells generator blanks, but with free shipping.

While they have not expressively said they switched to generator, their listed 8.25 specs are the same my sci fi and birdhouse 8.25s. I had woodchuck do 2 runs of boards for me, as well.

A single board is 29.99 but you may save on the shipping fee

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Are you positive it's generator? I bought one (8.75 blank) about 2 months ago and it didn't feel as "sturdy" as a typical generator/bbs deck.

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The 8.25s were identical shape. Woodchuck boards had to top notch but no other generator/bbs markings

I only have an 8.5 left from the woodchuck order at home, can’t post detailed pictures cause I’m out of state.


And I know it’s not clutch. Clutch boards feel different

Wow.

Guessing most woodshops now have a little too much stock, which only increases the "dog eat dog" type of situation that is going on right now in the skateboard industry for decks.


Thanks @rocklobster nice find!!!

Thanks everyone else for any other info.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 29, 2023, 12:10:37 AM

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Adding this here:

Quote from: modern life is war on April 28, 2023, 10:17:32 PM

8.75 Blackhole shop deck
Indy 159s
Spitfire conical full 58mm
Bones hard bushings
Mini logo bearings
Adidas busentiz pro
carhartt socks
carhartt shorts

Trying to convert back to popsicles after riding shaped decks for a while. Am I imagining it or have most popsicles gotten a lot fatter in the nose? It's a BBS deck. I feel like I need to do some modifications to this deck so the nose doesn't look so huge when I look down at it.

(https://i.ibb.co/SrYbwNc/IMG-20230428-213607-3-compress68.jpg)

Can you post a top pic please?


I keep going back to a few 8.75 boards (various BBS brands, different shapes of popsicle) and they all look like they have big noses, but that is just the look of most of these boards.

Some might be a bit more full looking than others though.

Thanks.

Quote from: modern life is war on April 29, 2023, 09:27:02 PM

@Mbrimson88 Here's a top pic. It definitely looks way more normal in this pic than it does in real life to me... The board next to it is the last shaped deck i was riding, it's not actually that much smaller, just an optical illusion

(https://i.ibb.co/tJhrD8m/IMG-20230429-211624-2-compress61.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on April 29, 2023, 03:57:26 AM

Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

Why are Control boards so flat on the nose and tail? I'm not talking about the steepness of the kicks, but there is literally ZERO concave (Cambre?) at all on them. Ben De Gros and others have talked about it on their videos and I have a couple sitting here as well and I remember what it felt like riding them. Do some people actually prefer this?

A lot of amazing skaters ride them and make them work - I was riding them for a long time and obviously they are "fine". I guess most skaters don't care about that who ride the boards, I know I did not at the time. they just hear "Made in Canada" and assume it is superior. They do feel like very solid boards at least as far as from breakage is concerned, they just seem stiff to me and felt like I didnt get as bouncy of a snap off the tail. Someone else mentioned that doing combos from nose/tail > crook feel a lot harder on those boards as well, but I doublt that trickset is swaying that many people's purchase decision.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2023, 05:14:31 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on April 29, 2023, 03:57:26 AM

Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

Why are Control boards so flat on the nose and tail? I'm not talking about the steepness of the kicks, but there is literally ZERO concave (Cambre?) at all on them. Ben De Gros and others have talked about it on their videos and I have a couple sitting here as well and I remember what it felt like riding them. Do some people actually prefer this?

A lot of amazing skaters ride them and make them work - I was riding them for a long time and obviously they are "fine". I guess most skaters don't care about that who ride the boards, I know I did not at the time. they just hear "Made in Canada" and assume it is superior. They do feel like very solid boards at least as far as from breakage is concerned, they just seem stiff to me and felt like I didnt get as bouncy of a snap off the tail. Someone else mentioned that doing combos from nose/tail > crook feel a lot harder on those boards as well, but I doublt that trickset is swaying that many people's purchase decision.

Yeah it does seem like FA / Hockey had the most squared off shapes, doing them first on PS Stix, now on BBS, so that alone is not limited to any one woodshop, quite a few others now having a square / full shape option, some only for specific brands, others for anyone to use, eg Clutch with the O shape, as per their shape guide here:

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1


As to the kicks and concave through the boards, in both the middle and kicks, some woodshops use a simple mold with no added "spoon" like concave through the kicks, whereas others have that as the main thing they do, so it is all down to the individual woodshop with how they set up their molds with flat faced kicks or spoon shaped kicks.

I feel like most woodshops don't have any "spoon" to their kicks though, mainly BBS (all their boards) and a select press / mold from other woodshops, as I recall Clutch / ASF produced boards were very similar to BBS at one point, but don't know about many now.

Certainly Dwindle does not have any, then as you mentioned Control pressed boards (not the ones they may or may not be getting from BBS or elsewhere) as well as PS Stix with flat faces on their kicks too, along with most if not all of the boards out of unknown factories in China, as per half a dozen or more brands I have stood on from different woodshops in the last few years.


Given I am very used to BBS wood, almost anything else feels weird, but I used to skate a lot of PS Stix boards and still have boards from almost every other woodshop either set up for people to try, or used and waiting for a new home at the indoor park.

I just tested a local shop board someone brought in, wood from Clutch not long ago and although I was not used to the concave, I did ok on it.  The board itself is 9" wide so big and long (maybe a V 10 shape), which I drilled back to make a shorter wheelbase and flattened some as well, but it was stiff and strong and held up well to whatever I did, as well as others having a good session on it at the indoor park too, after I had modified it, so that is not to say that people can't adapt to other boards either.

As for other people, I know others who find BBS hard to skate and don't like the concave and spoon like kicks, preferring the flat faces of Dwindle or other woodshop produced boards, so it is definitely down to what you know, what you are used to and how things work for the individual skater too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on May 01, 2023, 06:54:36 AM

Well now that you mention PS Stix having flat boards - Nyjah's board is incredibly flat and he obviously makes it work... there is definintely some value in it for some people. just not for me lol

i was riding a clutch board from sept-March and it felt somewhere in between for nose/tail spoon. i have a feeling the board was stored poorly because the nose chipped super easily just from kicking out on a boardslide on a flat bar. but other than that the board was actually decent it was just SUPER pointy nose and tail compared to what everyone else is doing now. it was a little flat concave too, but enough you could still feel it/notice it, and the kicks were not steep at all compared to bbs. when it got old they got really flat. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Bob Loblaw on May 04, 2023, 03:16:07 PM

What brands are using BBS premium wood?
I tried searching slap for info but haven’t found much.
Skated a Limosine and it has a noticeable difference in quality compared to already excellent BBS standards

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 04, 2023, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on May 04, 2023, 03:16:07 PM

What brands are using BBS premium wood?
I tried searching slap for info but haven’t found much.
Skated a Limosine and it has a noticeable difference in quality compared to already excellent BBS standards

To be perfectly honest I think it is just marketing talk, more than anything else.

For pretty much all the normal BBS boards, be it DLX brands - Antihero, Real, Krooked, There or Unity, through Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Heroin, Polar, Limosine or any other normal brand as per the BBS list on the first page, it is all the same, maybe some feel different - more mellow for some brands or steeper molds used for others, eg dedicated presses for select brands like FA / Hockey or some for DLX brands, maybe some might last longer, some might feel stiffer, some more flexy, etc but I feel like that is just down to how they are skated more than anything else, even though there is always the possibility of the ply veneer having issues that are not picked up in the usual quality control process.

They are all boards I would consider "pro wood" compared to any other options, like the pricepoint wood boards that some of the brands use for their cheaper deck options - usually all plain or natural grain, or advertised as "pricepoint" and sold as cheaper RRP than pro wood.  There is also the stock, be it blanks, shop boards, etc that come out of BBS that are sold under Generator which is not quite the same as the pro wood, but it is definitely not pricepoint either.

Apart from that, some brands, some shops and even some distributors will add in their own words, things like "premium wood" or where they are made - Made in USA being a common one, but at the end of the day, they are all made in the one place in Mexico and then either shipped off to various places round the world, or sent to the USA for distribution under the select brand, or to the Generator location in CA for printing, or whatever else as needed.



As for the BBS blanks listed on that site above, the word "premium" is not needed but just to have "Blank deck" is a bit too plain isn't it?


https://skatesamples.com/products/blank-deck-premium-2-dye

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 05, 2023, 04:08:33 PM

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Edited - Thanks Diego!

Cleaver = PS Stix 2023


Nothing huge or groundbreaking, but I see Tactics now have Cleaver Skateboards, with top pics showing a mix of what looked like HLC (but is not) and PS Stix, unless it is a stock old image.



https://www.tactics.com/cleaver


From the mind of legendary Argentine skater Diego Bucchieri AKA “The Butcher”, we're hyped to welcome Cleaver Skateboards to the shop.

Currently run & operated out of Madrid Spain, Cleaver serves up high-quality skateboards with elegant graphics, and apparel to match, all under the ever-watchful eye of The Butcher himself.



Top sticker and even the shape is interesting, looking a lot more full / square.


(https://www.tactics.com/a/egk9/1b/cleaver-klee-vr-neg-85-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on May 06, 2023, 05:20:39 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on April 29, 2023, 03:57:26 AM

Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

polar P2 is a bit more extreme (nose is longer too)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0631/7129/products/KLEZ-REHABILITAION-CENTER-P2_480x480.jpg?v=1631701373)

And this one from Snack is interesting, slightly more square than Hockey/FA
https://shop.snackskateboards.com/products/lil-prince-deck?_pos=1&_sid=d4f56856f&_ss=r&variant=39620281696334 (https://shop.snackskateboards.com/products/lil-prince-deck?_pos=1&_sid=d4f56856f&_ss=r&variant=39620281696334)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2206/6953/products/little-prince-deck-top-bay-hill-snack-skateboards-online-store_2048x2048.jpg?v=1641880157)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 06, 2023, 05:30:35 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on May 06, 2023, 05:20:39 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on April 29, 2023, 03:57:26 AM

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Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

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polar P2 is a bit more extreme (nose is longer too)


And this one from Snack is interesting, slightly more square than Hockey/FA

They look like fun!


At what point do "popsicle boards" end and "shaped boards" start, or how do we differentiate between them?

Not that it matters at all, just musing really.


Sure we have "full" popsicle boards, but then there are "shovel nose" and similar shaped boards out as well.


I remember when shovel nose boards were popular for a minute, but that seems to have dropped off as quickly as it started.



https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/the-approach-shovel-nose-skateboard-deck-8-4-p39911


(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/the-approach-shovel-nose-skateboard-deck-8-4-p39911-98447_zoom.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 06, 2023, 05:36:31 PM

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The shovel nose could be used to clean out the spot before skating, saving bringing tools and a board.

I had one of these, not that I ever used it like that though.  Functional tail as per a normal board, with the squared off nose.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2123/6437/products/Orange-Crusher.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:56:23 AM

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.38.jpg?13283661742716578995)

this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 08, 2023, 04:14:07 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:56:23 AM

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.38.jpg?13283661742716578995)

this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

Although I haven't seen any recently, most places do have the wheelbase at about that and I know that Primitive boards are shorter with shorter wheelbases from looking at them in the past.


Width : 8.38"
Length : 31.88"
Wheelbase : 14.19"


Width: 8.38"
Length: 31.925"
Wheelbase: 14.2"


* From a couple of places


Someone else might have more info though, or be able to tell you about that exact shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 08, 2023, 04:29:05 PM

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To add this, which I found when looking, with a very good top view and side view:


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/primitive-team-home-8-38-skateboard-deck-blue_p157720


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/product/Primitive-Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck-672888


The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304738691_back.jpg-k3WOIiP4rwKxDOGM_fB-0tRK3nc/Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck.jpg)



They actually have really good pics of all sized boards, graphic, top and side concave views:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/?q=primitive%20deck



I would add Blue Tomato to the list of shops that have board pics and dimensions, almost all listed from what I could see when I checked quite a few brands there.


All decks:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 08, 2023, 08:21:39 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:56:23 AM

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.38.jpg?13283661742716578995)

this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

They are accurate, long decks with short WB, perfect for Ventures. Rounded nose that aren't square.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 12, 2023, 11:28:55 PM

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I saw a really good new thread come up and don't want to steal the thunder from @TwisT who put up an awesome list but if anyone is looking for blank decks, this is a great thread to check out:


BLANK DECKS IN SEMI BULK OPTIONS - current for May 2023

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126420

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 14, 2023, 06:25:10 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

They have their own woodshop, maybe one of the longest lasting in the industry and they do their own boards and some for other small brands / runs from when I looked them up a while back.

From the first page:


Madrid Skateboard Factory (est 1976)
USA
https://www.madridskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/madridskateboards/


https://www.instagram.com/p/COL2Yaor1nG/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 06:27:58 PM

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Quote from: goodatmeth on May 14, 2023, 04:58:04 PM

Local mall shop just got a shitload of cliché decks in. Wth is going on?
https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first (https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first)

The brand Cliche has come and gone a fair bit after being incorporated into Dwindle and they have been bringing out a few here and there over the years.  They are still owned by Dwindle, and made in DSM woodshop, so it would make sense that they would bring out generic graphics of their umbrella of brands, no pro models and just "money makers" for the corporate owners now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 07:16:56 PM

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 14, 2023, 07:33:39 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

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Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

Not a worry and always happy to help!


:)


It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 07:38:55 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 07:16:56 PM

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

I think as per any woodshop, some people will have quite different views on the product, some good and some not so good.

As a manufacturer that is pumping out a significant amount of product, they definitely have a lot going on and supply a number of pro brands with wood.

The few HLC boards I have come across have been decent, no issues, skate well and last for those people riding them.

There is a variety of concaves and some more mellow, some steeper, some with more "fingers of flat" than average, others no different to some other brands, so it comes down to the individual board and what you like - hoping you can stand on it or at least see it in person more so than ordering online, but their site has a lot more info too.



HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 08:05:42 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 14, 2023, 07:38:55 PM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 07:16:56 PM

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Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

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I think as per any woodshop, some people will have quite different views on the product, some good and some not so good.

As a manufacturer that is pumping out a significant amount of product, they definitely have a lot going on and supply a number of pro brands with wood.

The few HLC boards I have come across have been decent, no issues, skate well and last for those people riding them.

There is a variety of concaves and some more mellow, some steeper, some with more "fingers of flat" than average, others no different to some other brands, so it comes down to the individual board and what you like - hoping you can stand on it or at least see it in person more so than ordering online, but their site has a lot more info too.



HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

Gotcha, thanks. I’m buying a deck in Europe and figured most of the decks in shops over there would either be DSM or HLC.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on May 15, 2023, 02:56:54 AM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 07:16:56 PM

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

I skated several Sours and never had a problem. They might be little heavier than your usual boars but nothing too dramatic. Shape wise they're just ok, nothing to go crazy about. Overall they're pretty solid boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: alraunen on May 15, 2023, 03:29:23 AM

Quote from: moonordie on May 15, 2023, 02:56:54 AM

Quote from: PatrickSkateman on May 14, 2023, 07:16:56 PM

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Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

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I skated several Sours and never had a problem. They might be little heavier than your usual boars but nothing too dramatic. Shape wise they're just ok, nothing to go crazy about. Overall they're pretty solid boards.

Skating one I got for free now, compared to BBS/Generator the wood feels more clumsy and you have a more heavy feeling once you pop tricks, but feels good overall. It's easy to spot an HLC board because all of their WB is 14.2, it's weird specially on narrow and wider boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on May 15, 2023, 04:37:28 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 14, 2023, 07:33:39 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

[close]

Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

[close]

Not a worry and always happy to help!


:)


It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 15, 2023, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 15, 2023, 04:37:28 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 14, 2023, 07:33:39 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

[close]

Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

[close]

Not a worry and always happy to help!


:)


It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

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That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

I feel like there has been a resurgence of interest in "any other" boards in recent years, including freestyle boards.  Given it was the board that helped so many flip / spin variations of tricks come about thanks to Mr Mullen, then just recently brands like Antihero (under Grimplestix) made a freestyle deck and complete option too, which I think is still around today, so you are not alone there.

Thinking over the history of the popsicle too, boards got so small and skinny for a minute they were almost freestyle boards, only with a more generalised mainstream acceptance, if that could be said of anything in skateboarding.

Madrid sure do have a lot of options for almost if not every single type of skateboard over the decades and still press those completely flat boards, through various drop through board options, to single and double kicks in every size, shape, etc.


Good luck with your adventures!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on May 15, 2023, 04:28:26 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 15, 2023, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 15, 2023, 04:37:28 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on May 14, 2023, 07:33:39 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

[close]

Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

[close]

Not a worry and always happy to help!


:)


It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

[close]

That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

[close]

I feel like there has been a resurgence of interest in "any other" boards in recent years, including freestyle boards.  Given it was the board that helped so many flip / spin variations of tricks come about thanks to Mr Mullen, then just recently brands like Antihero (under Grimplestix) made a freestyle deck and complete option too, which I think is still around today, so you are not alone there.

Thinking over the history of the popsicle too, boards got so small and skinny for a minute they were almost freestyle boards, only with a more generalised mainstream acceptance, if that could be said of anything in skateboarding.

Madrid sure do have a lot of options for almost if not every single type of skateboard over the decades and still press those completely flat boards, through various drop through board options, to single and double kicks in every size, shape, etc.


Good luck with your adventures!!!

Thank you!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on May 15, 2023, 04:54:36 PM

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODU3NDc3ODExNTE3NDcx?story_media_id=2514951076456599846&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Madrid has their own shop

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 15, 2023, 04:56:08 PM

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Thought this might be ok to post here as well.

Quote from: toe_knee on May 13, 2023, 08:39:12 AM

Skatesamples uses BBS? They have the pinprick on the front truck like clutch on the website photo for the decks, but maybe that was an old pic I’m interested in tying a bbs blank out

I had meant to reply to this earlier but got distracted.


https://skatesamples.com/

They list them as "Generator Skateboard Distribution samples", on the main page in the header logo pic.

Generator Distribution is the shop board (blank) option from BBS, so although they are not the exact same boards as DLX or any other top pro brand out of BBS, they are made in the same place and are very similar in quality and feel of concave, so from riding a number of the Generator shop boards from a local shop here in AU, they skate great and if you like BBS, then they will work for you.

The shapes are generic so again, not quite the same as DLX or other pro brands, but they all seem like they are good with proportions and they work, eg normal wheelbase, normal round kicks, not pointed, not full, etc.

The sizes I have had or seen include 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 info as below (but could be different in the new stock):


Width : 8.125"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.25"

Width : 8.25"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.25"

Width : 8.375"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.375"

Width : 8.5"
Length : 32.3"
Wheelbase : 14.5"


(https://www.kickpush.com.au/assets/alt_1/1129472.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 15, 2023, 04:58:56 PM

Quote from: TwisT on May 15, 2023, 04:54:36 PM

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODU3NDc3ODExNTE3NDcx?story_media_id=2514951076456599846&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Madrid has their own shop

How's all the different shapes hanging up on the wall?!?

I know other woodshops would have a lot of options hidden away, but it is just cool to see all those up there on display, almost ready to pull down and make this or that depending on how you feel that day.


Probably a good thing I don't have access to something like that.

Kid in a candy store.


:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on May 16, 2023, 09:58:11 AM

Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/ (https://skatesamples.com/)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965649371268014100/1107720534462058506/Order-Samples.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gary Bucket on May 16, 2023, 03:28:38 PM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 16, 2023, 09:58:11 AM

Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/ (https://skatesamples.com/)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965649371268014100/1107720534462058506/Order-Samples.jpg)

Always meant to ask but felt like an idiot. BBS has one shape per size and theyre the same regardless of brand? Seems too simple

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 16, 2023, 03:44:16 PM

Quote from: Gary Bucket on May 16, 2023, 03:28:38 PM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 16, 2023, 09:58:11 AM

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Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/ (https://skatesamples.com/)

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Always meant to ask but felt like an idiot. BBS has one shape per size and theyre the same regardless of brand? Seems too simple

That size chart is a good one - is that for order only customers or shops?


As to BBS, they make whatever sizes and shapes any big brand wants, as most brands have slight tweaks that they want something shorter, longer, more full, etc, but for their Generator boards, they are all just the one specific size.

That way the big brands all have their own unique product (to a degree) whereas shop boards or smaller brands that use Generator just use what they are given, so people have more incentive to buy from the big brands if they want something specific.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on May 17, 2023, 07:00:17 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 16, 2023, 03:44:16 PM

Quote from: Gary Bucket on May 16, 2023, 03:28:38 PM

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Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 16, 2023, 09:58:11 AM

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Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/ (https://skatesamples.com/)

[close]

Always meant to ask but felt like an idiot. BBS has one shape per size and theyre the same regardless of brand? Seems too simple

[close]

That size chart is a good one - is that for order only customers or shops?


As to BBS, they make whatever sizes and shapes any big brand wants, as most brands have slight tweaks that they want something shorter, longer, more full, etc, but for their Generator boards, they are all just the one specific size.

That way the big brands all have their own unique product (to a degree) whereas shop boards or smaller brands that use Generator just use what they are given, so people have more incentive to buy from the big brands if they want something specific.

This is for Generator blanks, stock sizes… you are correct, most brands have their own specific shapes, WB etc…. But a lot of the “new” companies just use a stock shape with heat transfer and call it a day…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 18, 2023, 10:28:55 PM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 17, 2023, 07:00:17 AM

This is for Generator blanks, stock sizes… you are correct, most brands have their own specific shapes, WB etc…. But a lot of the “new” companies just use a stock shape with heat transfer and call it a day…

Costs a lot less to use existing shapes than to make their own too.

Looking over those normal popsicles again and they all look pretty much spot on for the main market, maybe just an option in the 9 with a shorter 14.5 wb or something like I had seen a few brands / shops use, so I wonder if that is a thing, or they have to ask for it specifically.

One of the shops had the 9 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb, instead of the usual (orange eagle) 9 x 33 with 15 wb size board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 19, 2023, 04:58:14 AM

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/ (https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/)

I came across this specific shape and it just sounds perfect to me. And I am quite sure, Sour does use this shape for their decks. But Sour has at least two different 8.25s. Does anyone know what the top of the deck would say if I would like to get this specific shape? I think they are called S1 and S2 Shapes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Luismps on May 19, 2023, 03:02:26 PM

Hello!

New here…

How is the concave and kicks in the magenta decks?
Too steep?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2023, 06:19:30 PM

Quote from: Luismps on May 19, 2023, 03:02:26 PM

Hello!

New here…

How is the concave and kicks in the magenta decks?
Too steep?

Hi,

Welcome to Slap!


The hardest question to answer, is one that is based on personal opinion, more than anything, with no right or wrong answer.  The average angle of kick is about 20 - 22 degrees, if you are measuring, along with the cross concave being right in the middle for most normal decks nowdays.


Magenta is on BBS wood, pretty much the same normal concave as half the pro boards in the industry (as per the main list on the first page), so given there are four boards to a press, on average some will be more mellow, some steeper, as per half a dozen I have here (shop stock) with a few set up as completes in various states of use for people to try.

For me the concave is about medium, the kicks a bit steeper than I like, but for me personally, I prefer very mellow angle kicks, whereas others who ride the boards think they are just perfect and one guy says they are not steep enough, so go figure, with regard to his preference.


More than anything, what are you going to compare it to, or what did you skate last, or other more recent boards you have had?  That is probably going to make it easier to determine how you perceive concave and angle of kicks.  Also what size board are you looking at?  Some of the wider boards might have a lot more side to side concave, whereas some of the smaller boards might not have half as much, eg an 8.0 compared to an 8.5 board.

The main thing I always say is to go into somewhere, anywhere that has a good range of boards of various brands - not necessarily brands you would ride - and stand on as many as you can, just to feel the angle of kicks, or the side to side concave.  Then by using the list of which boards are from which woodshops you can narrow down what you prefer in the feel of a board, more so than just blindly buying something if you cannot get to stand on the specific board in person before the purchase.


Lastly to note, some brands like FA / Hockey are way steeper (different presses) than others of say Baker boards, which are said to be more mellow over all, or DLX boards (Antihero, Real, Krooked, There, Unity), which have a number system stamped on top, I being the steepest, II and III middle ground and IV being the most mellow, which also helps if you want a specific shape, or concave.

Start with that anyway, but someone is always here to help with any other questions, so don't hesitate to ask again.

Hope that helps!

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 19, 2023, 06:34:30 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 19, 2023, 04:58:14 AM

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/ (https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/)

I came across this specific shape and it just sounds perfect to me. And I am quite sure, Sour does use this shape for their decks. But Sour has at least two different 8.25s. Does anyone know what the top of the deck would say if I would like to get this specific shape? I think they are called S1 and S2 Shapes.

Unfortunately I haven't had enough experience with HLC boards, so don't know, or at least the boards I know are from HLC didn't have any additional info on top that I recall, but I have definitely heard others mention it before somewhere on Slap.

The best thing might be to contact the Sour account, or similar brand, or even HLC directly asking which shapes, but at least their online store has a lot of info regarding each board, different graphics, shape, etc.

https://soursolution.club/collections/decks


Sour list the S2 in this one:

https://soursolution.club/collections/decks/products/martin-sandberg-plugghast-7-875-8-25

8.25 X 31.52 S2 WB14.2


This one S1:

https://soursolution.club/collections/decks/products/albert-toppings-8-25

8.25 X 31.88 WB14.2 S1


Both have really good side pics of the boards as well to see, but more than anything it might be the difference in board shapes, not the concave that the S is referring to.

Hopefully someone else or the brand themselves can shed some light on it for you.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 19, 2023, 06:49:27 PM

Quote from: Roisto on May 19, 2022, 12:24:14 AM

Quote from: El Freegano on May 18, 2022, 11:29:28 PM

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Quote from: Damoforce on May 18, 2022, 04:34:36 AM

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Does anyone know the details and shapes on Sour Solution decks? I notice they have a few like S1 S2 S5 and a couple of others too

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You can see the dimensions of decks from the last drop in the official page https://soursolution.club/collections/sp22
somewhere i read S1 is medium and S4 is mellow concave, but you can also see the photos of the decks.

[close]

Here’s the HLC catalog with details on all the shapes they have.

https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hlc-oem-skateboard-catalog.pdf

Which is which in Sour is another question then but maybe it can be worked out from there somehow.

It’s still very baffling to me how they all have 14.2” wb except one old school shape with a 14.6” wb and then the mini decks.

This might help too...

The PDF link is gone now though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on May 19, 2023, 07:12:15 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 19, 2023, 04:58:14 AM

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/ (https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/)

I came across this specific shape and it just sounds perfect to me. And I am quite sure, Sour does use this shape for their decks. But Sour has at least two different 8.25s. Does anyone know what the top of the deck would say if I would like to get this specific shape? I think they are called S1 and S2 Shapes.

Birdhouse makes a board with similar specs

https://www.tactics.com/birdhouse/armanto-alma-825-skateboard-deck

Of course similar specs doesn’t always mean similar shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on May 20, 2023, 04:30:11 PM

Skated a South Central board for the first time and it’s killer. Board feels a bit thicker than others and the kicks feel kind of unfinished in a good way. Kind of the like the Heroin razor edge, but on the kicks and not the rails.

I don’t exactly know how to express it, but the deck feels very high quality, almost like furniture.
It’s not noticeably any heavier, though.

Lots of fun. Did a good round of flappy front nose slides at the local curb spot after I took this pic. I definitely want to try more from South Central. Maybe a Politic deck.


(https://i.ibb.co/8MqvfDw/IMG-0620.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/x8YyW76/IMG-0621.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Luismps on May 21, 2023, 12:14:53 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2023, 06:19:30 PM

Quote from: Luismps on May 19, 2023, 03:02:26 PM

Expand Quote

Hello!

New here…

How is the concave and kicks in the magenta decks?
Too steep?

[close]

Hi,

Welcome to Slap!


The hardest question to answer, is one that is based on personal opinion, more than anything, with no right or wrong answer.  The average angle of kick is about 20 - 22 degrees, if you are measuring, along with the cross concave being right in the middle for most normal decks nowdays.


Magenta is on BBS wood, pretty much the same normal concave as half the pro boards in the industry (as per the main list on the first page), so given there are four boards to a press, on average some will be more mellow, some steeper, as per half a dozen I have here (shop stock) with a few set up as completes in various states of use for people to try.

For me the concave is about medium, the kicks a bit steeper than I like, but for me personally, I prefer very mellow angle kicks, whereas others who ride the boards think they are just perfect and one guy says they are not steep enough, so go figure, with regard to his preference.


More than anything, what are you going to compare it to, or what did you skate last, or other more recent boards you have had?  That is probably going to make it easier to determine how you perceive concave and angle of kicks.  Also what size board are you looking at?  Some of the wider boards might have a lot more side to side concave, whereas some of the smaller boards might not have half as much, eg an 8.0 compared to an 8.5 board.

The main thing I always say is to go into somewhere, anywhere that has a good range of boards of various brands - not necessarily brands you would ride - and stand on as many as you can, just to feel the angle of kicks, or the side to side concave.  Then by using the list of which boards are from which woodshops you can narrow down what you prefer in the feel of a board, more so than just blindly buying something if you cannot get to stand on the specific board in person before the purchase.


Lastly to note, some brands like FA / Hockey are way steeper (different presses) than others of say Baker boards, which are said to be more mellow over all, or DLX boards (Antihero, Real, Krooked, There, Unity), which have a number system stamped on top, I being the steepest, II and III middle ground and IV being the most mellow, which also helps if you want a specific shape, or concave.

Start with that anyway, but someone is always here to help with any other questions, so don't hesitate to ask again.

Hope that helps!

:)

Tks for your help!
I do like mellow kicks but i could not find any information regarding this decks.
Girl/Choco and Baker are my favs.

Again, tks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on. I have never made boards with HLC.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 21, 2023, 01:18:11 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on. I have never made boards with HLC.

Diego Bucchieri?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 02:40:53 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 21, 2023, 01:18:11 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

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Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on. I have never made boards with HLC.

[close]

Diego Bucchieri?

YES SIR

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 21, 2023, 03:49:53 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 02:40:53 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 21, 2023, 01:18:11 PM

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Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

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Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on. I have never made boards with HLC.

[close]

Diego Bucchieri?

[close]

YES SIR

Thank you!!!

Main listing and post from last week amended to reflect PS Stix 2023.


As everything on here is crowd sourced, it can very easily be incorrect info or old info, so I am always stoked if someone can help with info like this, especially someone who owns / runs their own brand / company.


Much appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Tale Crab on May 21, 2023, 04:43:37 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on.

So good to see someone sticking with PS, especially with a strong presence in Europe.

It would also be great to see boards made on the mellower PS101 mold that seemed to be around a lot more in the early to mid 2000s. Right now the only two mellow PS Stix 8.25s I could find in Europe were one model each from Pizza and WKND, neither of which I would prefer as a brand. I can't imagine to be the only one who prefers mellow kicks over the steep noses that many companies are pushing at the moment.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Firebert on May 21, 2023, 05:34:34 PM

Quote from: Tale Crab on May 21, 2023, 04:43:37 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

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Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on.

[close]

So good to see someone sticking with PS, especially with a strong presence in Europe.

It would also be great to see boards made on the mellower PS101 mold that seemed to be around a lot more in the early to mid 2000s. Right now the only two mellow PS Stix 8.25s I could find in Europe were one model each from Pizza and WKND, neither of which I would prefer as a brand. I can't imagine to be the only one who prefers mellow kicks over the steep noses that many companies are pushing at the moment.

I also prefer the PS mellow concave and kicks, however I've received several boards that weren't sanded properly, where the left side of the nose is tapered and the right side of the nose is square. Buy them in person.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 21, 2023, 06:02:16 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on May 20, 2023, 04:30:11 PM

Skated a South Central board for the first time and it’s killer. Board feels a bit thicker than others and the kicks feel kind of unfinished in a good way. Kind of the like the Heroin razor edge, but on the kicks and not the rails.

I don’t exactly know how to express it, but the deck feels very high quality, almost like furniture.
It’s not noticeably any heavier, though.

Lots of fun. Did a good round of flappy front nose slides at the local curb spot after I took this pic. I definitely want to try more from South Central. Maybe a Politic deck.


(https://i.ibb.co/8MqvfDw/IMG-0620.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/x8YyW76/IMG-0621.jpg)

Hell yeah. These are my favorite boards, too. They don’t press many brands, but most people seem to have the same reaction when they skate one.

One time the only other dude at the park rolled up with this wicked east coast accent and chatted a bit after he spotted my Cinco Barrios deck. Must’ve been a regular here because he knew 5B was pressed at SC.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 21, 2023, 08:17:34 PM

Quote from: gaunting on May 21, 2023, 07:41:02 AM

does anyone know the wheelbases on rassvet boards? particularly the 8.125” shape? wanna get it, but not if it’s some like 14.38” WB.

Not sure how current this is but I was surprised it came up as almost the first search response:


https://lofistore.com.au/collections/rassvet/products/sun-collage-deck

Sun Collage Deck, Pink
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.125" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix


* The board in that pic looks really square, but I also thought, being PS Stix, it wouldn't be as long as 32.25 and could come out more in the 31.8 to 32 overall length when measured flat across the board.



Other sizes with all the info:


https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-blue

Sun Collage Deck, Blue
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.25" x 32.25"
- Wheelbase: 14.125"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix



https://lofistore.com.au/products/sun-collage-deck-black

Sun Collage Deck, Green
Rassvet / Decks
- 8.5" x 32.375"
- Wheelbase: 14.25"
- Nose: 7.125"
- Tail: 6.75"
- Comes with free Mob Grip
- Manufactured by PS Stix

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 21, 2023, 09:51:08 PM

I was recently looking at Maxallure boards and noticed they offer PGI or BBS for most. The BBS offerings look super close to FA/Hockey dimensions based on the listings on their site. Can anyone confirm if they use the same shapes?

Examples:

https://maxallureskateboards.com/collections/boards/products/flowers-by-somdusca?variant=40026788692102

https://maxallureskateboards.com/collections/boards/products/marcello-campanello-pro-starting-line?variant=40033767161990

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 11:46:32 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on May 21, 2023, 03:49:53 PM

Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 02:40:53 PM

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Quote from: fs1/2cab on May 21, 2023, 01:18:11 PM

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Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

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Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on. I have never made boards with HLC.

[close]

Diego Bucchieri?

[close]

YES SIR

[close]

Quote from: Tale Crab on May 21, 2023, 04:43:37 PM

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Quote from: Labucha on May 21, 2023, 10:47:22 AM

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Cleaver boards will be made at PSStix from now on.

[close]

So good to see someone sticking with PS, especially with a strong presence in Europe.

 ;)

It would also be great to see boards made on the mellower PS101 mold that seemed to be around a lot more in the early to mid 2000s. Right now the only two mellow PS Stix 8.25s I could find in Europe were one model each from Pizza and WKND, neither of which I would prefer as a brand. I can't imagine to be the only one who prefers mellow kicks over the steep noses that many companies are pushing at the moment.

[close]

Thank you!!!

Main listing and post from last week amended to reflect PS Stix 2023.


As everything on here is crowd sourced, it can very easily be incorrect info or old info, so I am always stoked if someone can help with info like this, especially someone who owns / runs their own brand / company.


Much appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on May 24, 2023, 03:37:42 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 08, 2023, 08:21:39 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:56:23 AM

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Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0342/5665/files/8.38.jpg?13283661742716578995)



this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

[close]

They are accurate, long decks with short WB, perfect for Ventures. Rounded nose that aren't square.

Decided to pull the trigger on primitive mystery box. 8.38 size
Did not get a single collab board (all bbs boards)
Also got a wade board which I was hoping for (or a spencer)


2 of them are
6.6 t
6.9 n
14.19 wb
31.88 l

One is
6.7t
6.9n
14.2 wb
31.925 l

This is printed on a sticker attached to the board.

edit: Once I took the tape measure out, It seems that both board sizes are actually exactly the same, and its exactly as it is specified in the drawing, and what is printed on the sticker on the board is inaccurate  ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 24, 2023, 07:04:48 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 24, 2023, 03:37:42 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 08, 2023, 08:21:39 PM

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Quote from: rawbertson. on May 08, 2023, 06:56:23 AM

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Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb

this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

[close]

They are accurate, long decks with short WB, perfect for Ventures. Rounded nose that aren't square.

[close]

Decided to pull the trigger on primitive mystery box. 8.38 size
Did not get a single collab board (all bbs boards)
Also got a wade board which I was hoping for (or a spencer)


2 of them are
6.6 t
6.9 n
14.19 wb
31.88 l

One is
6.7t
6.9n
14.2 wb
31.925 l

This is printed on a sticker attached to the board.

edit: Once I took the tape measure out, It seems that both board sizes are actually exactly the same, and its exactly as it is specified in the drawing, and what is printed on the sticker on the board is inaccurate  ;D

That is a good outcome then!

Seeing what some people had put in the sale thread made me not want to touch mystery box deals ever again, but I think I am a bit more picky than others.

The one mystery box I did get from a shop deal was less than pretty average, to be fair (and polite) but that's why they have them - sometimes it can be awesome and other times you think why did I just spend $ XX on that crap?!?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2023, 03:16:06 PM

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Quote from: Candied cigarettes on April 29, 2023, 06:13:38 PM

https://youtu.be/vy59S81CdSM (https://youtu.be/vy59S81CdSM)

Ben’s little jab at real at the very end made me lol

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 25, 2023, 03:45:12 PM

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From the "Super mellow decks" thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.0

Quote from: El Freegano on May 25, 2023, 01:35:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 26, 2023, 12:03:49 AM

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Funny how many people have sent this to me, but it is nice to see others doing it, as well as putting something down like a board box so the top of the deck doesn't get scuffed.

JB is on Primitive, so usually BBS wood, but most brands have handled driving over them or parking on them to flatten out the kicks in my experience.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CsrAOkZPhVV/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on May 26, 2023, 07:03:43 AM

its funny because I specifically buy these boards BECAUSE they have hella concave in the nose and tail
primitive should get Control to do a run of boards for him  ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 26, 2023, 05:36:56 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on May 26, 2023, 07:03:43 AM

its funny because I specifically buy these boards BECAUSE they have hella concave in the nose and tail
primitive should get Control to do a run of boards for him  ;D

Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently

Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.


The usual DLX IV stamp is just right, with the I or II being just a touch too steep in the angle of the kicks, mainly the tail, but it is usually the smallest amount that it mellows out that makes all the difference.

Some other BBS boards are perfect, but other woodshops that make more mellow boards just don't work at all, so this is an easy enough fix for anyone who does want to mellow out the kicks while still having the same cross concave and shape and board feel.


Doing something like this is definitely not for everyone, that's for sure, but at least it is a way to help me feel more comfortable on a board I might not ride so easily, without having to have a whole different product line, as per some brands, woodshops, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on May 29, 2023, 08:15:17 AM

FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: YMCMB on May 29, 2023, 11:15:58 AM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 29, 2023, 08:15:17 AM

FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

Where did you happen to see this?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on May 30, 2023, 05:32:49 AM

Quote from: YMCMB on May 29, 2023, 11:15:58 AM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on May 29, 2023, 08:15:17 AM

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FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

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Where did you happen to see this?

In an email to South Central asking about them...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nosneb on May 30, 2023, 07:39:23 PM

Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
[/ quote]


Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:49:57 PM

X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Doosh215 on May 30, 2023, 08:43:19 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:49:57 PM

X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

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Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

[close]

Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

Yeah I got an Alien team board from the most recent drop thinking it might be China, but it's BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 31, 2023, 11:04:28 AM

Quote from: nosneb on May 30, 2023, 07:39:23 PM

Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
[/ quote]


Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

[close]

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

Guilty I know.  :)


People today were saying my Krooked was the flattest board they had skated - it is definitely a much more mellow concave than most, plus I parked on the kicks to really flatten them out, but the board might still feel like it has more than the two of those old ones, the 1996 Real 8.25 and 1998 World Industries 7.6 boards I have, if I recall correctly.  That is the era of flat boards isn't it, or at least boards to compare to them as others you have posted before?


For reference, my 8.38 Krooked board has about 5mm rise from middle to rails and angle of kicks 17 degrees nose and 16 degrees tail, which they were saying went almost horizontal when flexed, but I don't think it was quite that flexed out and still had enough not to feel soggy or mushed out.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on May 31, 2023, 11:10:58 AM

Quote from: Doosh215 on May 30, 2023, 08:43:19 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:49:57 PM

Expand Quote

X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

Expand Quote

Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

[close]

Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

[close]

Yeah I got an Alien team board from the most recent drop thinking it might be China, but it's BBS

Were they Asia / Europe or USA that you guys saw or bought the Habitat boards?

I thought Alien Workshop hadn't changed, but Habitat in EU / Asia was getting Dwindle or other boards for a bit, depending on their distribution.

Could be wrong, but it seemed Alien Workshop here in AU were all on BBS apart from the advertised pricepoint boards, which were labelled as China, but Habitat were more mixed / not as clear with the boards that came in as they were through a different distro.


Any which way, I need to update the listings for them as I think I missed putting those in and had BBS 2022.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nosneb on May 31, 2023, 06:04:07 PM

In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 02, 2023, 10:55:40 PM

Quote from: nosneb on May 31, 2023, 06:04:07 PM

In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

Thanks.


Not sure if the others didn't see the question or anyone else in other parts of the world had any other info, re Alien Workshop and Habitat wood.


I wonder how many brands might be back on the BBS program now that went with other options, or some that are now going with Generator, PS Stix or any other woodshops if they are operating with lower minimums and greater access.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 02, 2023, 11:51:53 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 02, 2023, 10:55:40 PM

Quote from: nosneb on May 31, 2023, 06:04:07 PM

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In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

[close]

Thanks.


Not sure if the others didn't see the question or anyone else in other parts of the world had any other info, re Alien Workshop and Habitat wood.


I wonder how many brands might be back on the BBS program now that went with other options, or some that are now going with Generator, PS Stix or any other woodshops if they are operating with lower minimums and greater access.

Over the past years I've ridden / bought:
3 x Mark Suciu 8.38 Twin -
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0078/2902/8917/products/HabitatSkateboards-SuciuLoneWolfSkateboardDeck-8.375_Twin_1200x1200.jpg?v=1671031263)
2 of these, 1 was BBS, 1 was from China

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/6596/products/suciu.jpg?v=1680905145&width=1445)
1 of these, just a month ago, this was BBS


(https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/zumiez/365394)
I saw this in the shop, it had a made in China sticker

And the other 8.38 twin tails (Habitat Apex Bold / Habitat Mosaic 20th Anniversary) had a made in China sticker.

But based on their latest drop it looks like they are back to BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 03, 2023, 12:04:23 AM

Quote from: nosneb on May 30, 2023, 07:39:23 PM

Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
[/ quote]


Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

[close]

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 05:14:10 PM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on June 03, 2023, 12:04:23 AM

Quote from: nosneb on May 30, 2023, 07:39:23 PM

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Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
[/ quote]


Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

[close]

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

[close]

Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

I get that there would be varying degrees of what people call mellow, or even flat boards, but do you guys have some dimensions or list of info that would help anyone determine what you would consider mellow / flat boards?

Just trying to get some sort of gauge as to what you are talking about here, certainly not trying to start a fight or cause drama, but every time I ask for measurements, none are forthcoming.

As I posted earlier on what I would call a mellow Krooked board I have, an 8.38 the middle of the board concave rise was about 5 mm (usually more like 7 - 8 mm) and the angle of kicks was 17 on the nose and 16 on the tail, usually more like 22 nose, 21 tail for the average DLX boards, even the IV stamp, with a I stamp in 8.38 being 9 mm rise and 24 degrees nose and 23 degrees tail.  From that alone this board is way more mellow than other boards in the same category, but I personally would not be calling it "flat" just "mellow concave" when compared to most.


The 1996 Real 8.25 has about 4 - 5 mm concave and about 15 degrees kicks, with the 1998 World Industries deck that measures about 7.6 having 3 - 4 mm concave and similarly 15 degrees in the kicks.  Those two even just look flat and standing on them is another story compared to any modern board I have from any woodshop, but they still have more concave than some others that people might be posting, eg a 7.5 Girl board I had seen once was like nothing I recall, almost zero concave across and only the slightest inclination in the kicks too, but it was so beat to death and worn down I would imagine there was a bit more to it when new.

I also understand that the smaller a board is, the more mellow / flat it is going to seem, so something of 7.5 is always going to seem flatter than something of 8.25 or bigger, even with the mellow mold or flat presses that some companies use.


Anyway, here's hoping anyone could come back with some dimensions, info, even pics, etc as per the "Super mellow decks like this" thread.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Scottboarding on June 03, 2023, 05:34:34 PM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on June 03, 2023, 12:04:23 AM

Quote from: nosneb on May 30, 2023, 07:39:23 PM

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Quote from: Allen. on May 26, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
[/ quote]


Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

[close]

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

[close]

Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

Shop employees should know better than to argue with Shoes & Gear users.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 05:39:41 PM

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In terms of woodshops / brands, I don't have access to DOA boards, but from what everyone says they have the flattest.

I have some PGI wood which definitely felt very flat overall in the 8 and 8.125, even in the wider 8.5 size boards, but I would still only consider that mellow.

Most others including BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Control, are anywhere from middle ground, sometimes more mellow, sometimes steeper, but others like Pennswood, Dwindle, even some other China made boards were steeper than average overall.

Most others I have identified from the woodshop list feel on the steeper side to me too, that is kicks more than 20 degrees and deeper concave, the one exception being most Powell boards now, but they just feel weird to me, sort of like everything is a bit off any time I stand on one.

Some HLC boards I have feel very flat through the concave, but have more medium angle kicks, on the Plan B and Sk8 Mafia boards that came through my hands, in 8 and 8.25 sizes.

Others like Watson and Prime decks are only the old school shaped boards and although they are very mellow, I don't count them in the same way a normal popsicle board would be, given they are reissues or boards that are meant to be like the 80s or early 90s boards.

If those decks were reshaped into popsicles of 8 to 8.25 they would definitely be flat, as per the 1996 and 1998 boards I have, which seem like they were made from those similar molds, so that would be the closest to what people generally call flat boards now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Scottboarding on June 04, 2023, 10:31:37 PM

SoCal just released a bunch of new blanks made by Generator/BBS. They’re advertising them as such and I know Canada SkateShop got cut off because of that but maybe it’ll play out differently for SoCal.

https://socalskateshop.com/Socal-Skateshop-Skateboard-Decks-All.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on June 05, 2023, 08:06:15 AM

Quote from: Scottboarding on June 04, 2023, 10:31:37 PM

SoCal just released a bunch of new blanks made by Generator/BBS. They’re advertising them as such and I know Canada SkateShop got cut off because of that but maybe it’ll play out differently for SoCal.

https://socalskateshop.com/Socal-Skateshop-Skateboard-Decks-All.html

They are not selling BBS blanks. They are selling Socal blanks. It just so happens that Socal blanks are made at BBS, but these other social blanks are just made in mexico. The customer isn't buying a BBS board, they're buying a socal board, the same as they would buy an anti-hero, or any shop deck. While this may be a stupid technicality, it could be the stupid technicality they need to keep them clear.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 05, 2023, 03:11:26 PM

i’ve never seen a flat bbs board. imo, bbs boards are not flat, ever. they might be more mellow, than other bbs boards, but not flat. looking at them from the rail/primo angle, bbs boards have a very pronounced bend/concave (i want to say rocker, but i dunno what that means).
i don’t have any stats on what a mellow board is, i think they’ve mainly disappeared, as @Mbrimson88 has mentioned, the 90s boards were flat, and broke/dogged out, fairy quickly. but to me, they felt excellent.
i haven’t had a pgi for ages, but if i could that’d be a go.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 07:08:04 PM

Quote from: Ok on June 05, 2023, 03:11:26 PM

i’ve never seen a flat bbs board. imo, bbs boards are not flat, ever. they might be more mellow, than other bbs boards, but not flat. looking at them from the rail/primo angle, bbs boards have a very pronounced bend/concave (i want to say rocker, but i dunno what that means).
i don’t have any stats on what a mellow board is, i think they’ve mainly disappeared, as @Mbrimson88 has mentioned, the 90s boards were flat, and broke/dogged out, fairy quickly. but to me, they felt excellent.
i haven’t had a pgi for ages, but if i could that’d be a go.

Yeah most of the BBS boards coming out now seem even more in the "high concave" range than others I had seen and skated previously, so I am glad I can still get my hands on the DLX boards with IV stamp as they are significantly more mellow (not flat) than the greater BBS range.

Even when Baker has the "Mellow mold" and other brands that share / use those boards too, like Birdhouse for example, some are steeper and some not, so I would say again they are about middle of the range in that regard.


I would not usually go as far as to use measurements and tech out on boards, but with some of the interest and info coming from others online - Professor Schmitt and Ben DeGros, who measure everything, it has been interesting to check the angles on some of the kicks of boards I prefer and others I find too steep for my liking, as well as the cross board concave, which can vary greatly.

The few boards I have come across that I would call "extra mellow" from BBS / DLX in the 8.38 range definitely are a lot less in both rail and angle of kicks than average too, so I should take some pics and see if I can get things to look in photos the way they feel in person.  To note though, these boards do seem few and far between.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 PM

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For "flat boards" which I would never say about any of my current boards, I put up some pics in the Super mellow boards thread, here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.msg4026987#msg4026987



Then thought I would just add the post here as well.



.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 05, 2023, 07:37:01 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 PM

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For "flat boards" which I would never say about any of my current boards, I put up some pics in the Super mellow boards thread, here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.msg4026987#msg4026987



Then thought I would just add the post here as well.



.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)

Thank you for doing all this! It's super interesting to see the differences in decks from the mid-90s when I started skating and now. I was mostly on 8" Toy Machine team boards from 94-00ish and I can't honestly remember what they felt like so I'm stoked when boards from that era pop up with lots of good angled pictures.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on June 05, 2023, 10:53:33 PM

The addition of the concave I think had a lot to do with strengthening the board no?  More than preference or performance……

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 06, 2023, 06:48:31 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on June 05, 2023, 10:53:33 PM

The addition of the concave I think had a lot to do with strengthening the board no?  More than preference or performance……

Yes I think that had a lot to do with it as I was breaking so many boards through the early to mid 90s, but I really can't tell for sure on that one.

The other thing that people had said before is the skate industry took a while to catch up from boards that were on average 9 to 10" wide one year then suddenly being shaped right down to 7 to 8" within the next year or so, all on the same molds as they took a while to change and catch up, so from that, the board molds were still based on a wider board and cutting them right down made for some very mellow / flat boards.

I guess that is still the case for a lot of the 7. X size boards which are way flatter if using the same molds as some of the wider boards, but I definitely know some molds are flatter than others, even for some of the boards I like to ride.

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on June 05, 2023, 07:37:01 PM

Thank you for doing all this! It's super interesting to see the differences in decks from the mid-90s when I started skating and now. I was mostly on 8" Toy Machine team boards from 94-00ish and I can't honestly remember what they felt like so I'm stoked when boards from that era pop up with lots of good angled pictures.

It is a funny thing and I recall standing on a few Antihero boards back then and thinking they were way too flat, whereas some of the other boards (not much more concave at the time) were more suited to what I wanted.  At the time, lots of people I knew were all talking about them as it was the big new thing, but although it was a rad team, I just couldn't deal with a board that flat - same as that Real board I am guessing.

Now it is almost the other way round, with me seeking out the "flatter" boards from what is now the usual concave which equates to very steep for me, but is more just normal now and by no means are any of them "flat" but anything with slightly more mellow concave is good.


As others are saying in the "Super mellow decks" thread, there are still some out there.

Worth a read anyway:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.60;topicseen

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: YMCMB on June 06, 2023, 03:40:58 PM

Anyone skate a SK8Mafia deck latley, to know what wood shop they use?
Some of the specs I see just list the size like "8x32" or "8.25x32", but I looked and ended up seeing specs that look more inline with some HLC or Sour decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: nosneb on June 06, 2023, 05:01:42 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 PM

.

For "flat boards" which I would never say about any of my current boards, I put up some pics in the Super mellow boards thread, here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.msg4026987#msg4026987



Then thought I would just add the post here as well.



.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)

Finally mellow boards 😍

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 06, 2023, 06:02:45 PM

Quote from: nosneb on June 06, 2023, 05:01:42 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 PM

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.

For "flat boards" which I would never say about any of my current boards, I put up some pics in the Super mellow boards thread, here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.msg4026987#msg4026987



Then thought I would just add the post here as well.



.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)

[close]

Finally mellow boards 😍

exactly. bbs boards are not mellow. they are steep. and less super steep, but never mellow. ‘never’ means i haven’t personally seen it, so it doesn’t exist

the above pics are great, expect they make me want something i haven’t been able to find

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: tom on June 06, 2023, 07:11:19 PM

I had a Cash Only board last summer that was really mellow. Felt more mellow than the Baker original concave with a similarly pointed nose and tail. Pretty sure it was BBS even though it wasn't their standard 8.25

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 06, 2023, 07:20:37 PM

Quote from: YMCMB on June 06, 2023, 03:40:58 PM

Anyone skate a SK8Mafia deck latley, to know what wood shop they use?
Some of the specs I see just list the size like "8x32" or "8.25x32", but I looked and ended up seeing specs that look more inline with some HLC or Sour decks.

The ones that turned up here in Australia not too long ago were the usual HLC shape, concave and feel.

I haven't experienced the range of HLC boards, so would not know what concave option they were, but they felt very normal for those sort of boards and something I am used to from them, if that makes sense?

It was said they are doing all the boards for Sk8 Mafia so I don't think it would be different in any other country.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 06, 2023, 07:28:11 PM

.

Thought this info is good here too:

Quote from: TwisT on June 06, 2023, 11:56:38 AM

I'm not sure what thread this info goes best in, but for you Egg and general shape riders, Tactics now includes the width over the front and back truck on shape deck listings

Example:


https://www.tactics.com/krooked/barbee-bird-nest-95-rays-street-shape-skateboard-deck/navy


SPECS
SIZE   9.5
FRONT WIDTH (IN):   9.0
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   9.5
BACK WIDTH (IN):   8.0
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.5

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on June 06, 2023, 09:34:54 PM

Not sure if anyone else mentioned yet, but for those wondering about Jacuzzi Unlimited, I confirmed with Louie that they’re still gonna use Dwindle wood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Scottboarding on June 07, 2023, 09:02:50 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on June 06, 2023, 09:34:54 PM

Not sure if anyone else mentioned yet, but for those wondering about Jacuzzi Unlimited, I confirmed with Louie that they’re still gonna use Dwindle wood

That makes me really happy. The R7 boards are awesome. Kicks are a little steeper than I prefer for the pop is fanatic and they last forever before getting soggy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 08, 2023, 03:50:48 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on June 06, 2023, 09:34:54 PM

Not sure if anyone else mentioned yet, but for those wondering about Jacuzzi Unlimited, I confirmed with Louie that they’re still gonna use Dwindle wood

Tell him to do something with the mellow kick mold I haven't seen it in years

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 08, 2023, 06:37:54 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on June 08, 2023, 03:50:48 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on June 06, 2023, 09:34:54 PM

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Not sure if anyone else mentioned yet, but for those wondering about Jacuzzi Unlimited, I confirmed with Louie that they’re still gonna use Dwindle wood

[close]

Tell him to do something with the mellow kick mold I haven't seen it in years

for real. that steep kick they do is not the raddest, for me.
even tho i’m a billion years old with noodle legs and no pop, i’d just rather have a mellower deck.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 08, 2023, 06:49:43 PM

Toy Machine on BBS now? I know they were doing pro boards at PS, but it looks like they've gone the Quasi route and are doing a mix of PS and BBS, unless I'm misidentifying the sticker on the not PS boards.

Edit: Just reread the first page of the thread and maybe these are Clutch stickers? Didn't realize TM is using Clutch in 2023 and used BBS back in 2021. Thought it was just PS and then eventually the China shop for team boards.

Templeton Pro Board on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Wires_Crossed_Deck/descpage-TMETWCDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/8dqs5dK/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-39-28-PM.png)

Another Templeton on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Portrait_Deck/descpage-TMTPTDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/nwK80KZ/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-42-27-PM.png)

Templeton on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Mask_Deck/descpage-TMTMASK85DK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/PZDx91Q/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-43-28-PM.png)

This Lutheran pro board is on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Lutheran_Bloodhand_Deck/descpage-TMDLBHDK.html

Axel pro board on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Axel_Mannequin_Deck/descpage-TMACMPDK.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 09, 2023, 04:43:42 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on June 08, 2023, 06:49:43 PM

Toy Machine on BBS now? I know they were doing pro boards at PS, but it looks like they've gone the Quasi route and are doing a mix of PS and BBS, unless I'm misidentifying the sticker on the not PS boards.

Edit: Just reread the first page of the thread and maybe these are Clutch stickers? Didn't realize TM is using Clutch in 2023 and used BBS back in 2021. Thought it was just PS and then eventually the China shop for team boards.

Templeton Pro Board on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Wires_Crossed_Deck/descpage-TMETWCDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/8dqs5dK/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-39-28-PM.png)

Another Templeton on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Portrait_Deck/descpage-TMTPTDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/nwK80KZ/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-42-27-PM.png)

Templeton on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Mask_Deck/descpage-TMTMASK85DK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/PZDx91Q/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-43-28-PM.png)

This Lutheran pro board is on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Lutheran_Bloodhand_Deck/descpage-TMDLBHDK.html

Axel pro board on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Axel_Mannequin_Deck/descpage-TMACMPDK.html

They are definitely BBS boards.

Toy Machine has used anything and everything they can get their hands on it would seem, so it is hard to keep up.


Currently:

AU - China wood
Asia - ???
EU - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?
USA - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?



They are great pics too!

Thank you!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 09, 2023, 05:05:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 09, 2023, 04:43:42 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on June 08, 2023, 06:49:43 PM

Expand Quote

Toy Machine on BBS now? I know they were doing pro boards at PS, but it looks like they've gone the Quasi route and are doing a mix of PS and BBS, unless I'm misidentifying the sticker on the not PS boards.

Edit: Just reread the first page of the thread and maybe these are Clutch stickers? Didn't realize TM is using Clutch in 2023 and used BBS back in 2021. Thought it was just PS and then eventually the China shop for team boards.

Templeton Pro Board on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Wires_Crossed_Deck/descpage-TMETWCDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/8dqs5dK/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-39-28-PM.png)

Another Templeton on BBS?:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Portrait_Deck/descpage-TMTPTDK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/nwK80KZ/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-42-27-PM.png)

Templeton on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Mask_Deck/descpage-TMTMASK85DK.html

(https://i.ibb.co/PZDx91Q/Screen-Shot-2023-06-08-at-9-43-28-PM.png)

This Lutheran pro board is on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Lutheran_Bloodhand_Deck/descpage-TMDLBHDK.html

Axel pro board on PS:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Axel_Mannequin_Deck/descpage-TMACMPDK.html

[close]

They are definitely BBS boards.

Toy Machine has used anything and everything they can get their hands on it would seem, so it is hard to keep up.


Currently:

AU - China wood
Asia - ???
EU - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?
USA - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?



They are great pics too!

Thank you!!!

Any time! This thread has been so valuable to me, I’m happy to help whenever I can.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:21:25 PM

This could've also gone in the mellow boards thread, but I thought here the info might not get buried as quickly. I've bought a bunch of boards looking for a mellow board to my liking, but they keep avoiding me. I thought I could take some pictures to share so the money won't be completely wasted. The closest I got is a shop board from Greece that was pressed on the mellow PS Stix PS101 mold, but with a blunt shape that's not exactly my favorite.

Most of the PS Stix boards currently out there (Quasi, WKND, GX1000...) seem to be pressed on the H-mold, which was also used for a lot of the old Alien boards. PS Stix was recently advertising smaller minimun quantities on their standard shapes and they were all on this mold, so I except a lot more of these popping up as shop boards and through smaller brands. Below you can see how the PS101 (bottom) and the H-mold (top) compare.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963173145_1968eb51ab_h.jpg)

PS101 has the same angle for both nose and tail. H-mold has roughly the same mellow angle for the tail, but the nose is noticeably steeper. The H-mold seems shorter, which brings the kicks closer together. It also has deeper concave and more pronounced transition to the kicks, where the PS101 feels more organic to me.


Here's the PS101 compared to an Antihero on the DLX/BBS 8.25"/WB 14.375" shape with a III stamp (top).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962794781_d1ffcb7e6b_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962192852_7811fa454d_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963173165_ad8da6e9ce_k.jpg)

The tail angle is just about the same for both and the nose is a touch steeper on the DLX. The mold on the DLX is again a bit shorter with more pronounced concave and kicks. This shows how even the mellower DLXs aren't that mellow after all.


Here's how the PS Stix H-mold looks on top of the DLX.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962794801_292faeecb7_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963249128_1e34137b10_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962936959_bb8cf99d00_k.jpg)

By stacking them this way, the tail on the H-mold appears a tiny bit mellower, but the nose is still steeper. This is my main problem with the H-mold, as the tail can feel great, but any trick off the nose ghastly. The depth of concave is nearly identical in the center, but the DLX has more dipped kicks.


This is by no means an all-inclusive comparison, as it's just individual boards with no information on the stack positions for the PS Stix ones.
For me the PS101 would be my go-to, but a mellower BBS will do if nothing else is available. The H-mold won't be set up as I want to be able to do tricks off the nose as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:24:40 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 09, 2023, 04:43:42 PM

Toy Machine has used anything and everything they can get their hands on it would seem, so it is hard to keep up.

Currently:

AU - China wood
Asia - ???
EU - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?
USA - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?

Toy Machines in Europe seem to be mostly Chinese.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on June 09, 2023, 06:25:59 PM

Quote from: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:21:25 PM

This could've also gone in the mellow boards thread, but I thought here the info might not get buried as quickly. I've bought a bunch of boards looking for a mellow board to my liking, but they keep avoiding me. I thought I could take some pictures to share so the money won't be completely wasted. The closest I got is a shop board from Greece that was pressed on the mellow PS Stix PS101 mold, but with a blunt shape that's not exactly my favorite.

Most of the PS Stix boards currently out there (Quasi, WKND, GX1000...) seem to be pressed on the H-mold, which was also used for a lot of the old Alien boards. PS Stix was recently advertising smaller minimun quantities on their standard shapes and they were all on this mold, so I except a lot more of these popping up as shop boards and through smaller brands. Below you can see how the PS101 (bottom) and the H-mold (top) compare.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963173145_1968eb51ab_h.jpg)

PS101 has the same angle for both nose and tail. H-mold has roughly the same mellow angle for the tail, but the nose is noticeably steeper. The H-mold seems shorter, which brings the kicks closer together. It also has deeper concave and more pronounced transition to the kicks, where the PS101 feels more organic to me.


Here's the PS101 compared to an Antihero on the DLX/BBS 8.25"/WB 14.375" shape with a III stamp (top).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962794781_d1ffcb7e6b_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962192852_7811fa454d_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963173165_ad8da6e9ce_k.jpg)

The tail angle is just about the same for both and the nose is a touch steeper on the DLX. The mold on the DLX is again a bit shorter with more pronounced concave and kicks. This shows how even the mellower DLXs aren't that mellow after all.


Here's how the PS Stix H-mold looks on top of the DLX.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962794801_292faeecb7_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52963249128_1e34137b10_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52962936959_bb8cf99d00_k.jpg)

By stacking them this way, the tail on the H-mold appears a tiny bit mellower, but the nose is still steeper. This is my main problem with the H-mold, as the tail can feel great, but any trick off the nose ghastly. The depth of concave is nearly identical in the center, but the DLX has more dipped kicks.


This is by no means an all-inclusive comparison, as it's just individual boards with no information on the stack positions for the PS Stix ones.
For me the PS101 would be my go-to, but a mellower BBS will do if nothing else is available. The H-mold won't be set up as I want to be able to do tricks off the nose as well.

What is the functional purpose of the BBS dipped kicks?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 10, 2023, 03:30:51 PM

Worble back on Clutch? The white one is the new Poppy Starr pro model so definitely not a 2021 board.

https://www.zumiez.com/worble-fun-house-8-0-skateboard-deck.html
(https://i.ibb.co/HCrXP1J/IMG-0777.jpg)

https://www.zumiez.com/worble-poppy-starr-8-5-skateboard-deck.html
(https://i.ibb.co/bKgb52G/IMG-0778.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 10, 2023, 06:31:30 PM

Quote from: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:24:40 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 09, 2023, 04:43:42 PM

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Toy Machine has used anything and everything they can get their hands on it would seem, so it is hard to keep up.

Currently:

AU - China wood
Asia - ???
EU - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?
USA - mix of wood, BBS, PS Stix and others?

[close]

Toy Machines in Europe seem to be mostly Chinese.

Thanks.

I will update the list when I have a bit more time to go through the last page or so.


Always appreciated!!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 10, 2023, 09:22:52 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on June 09, 2023, 06:25:59 PM

Quote from: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:21:25 PM

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This could've also gone in the mellow boards thread, but I thought here the info might not get buried as quickly. I've bought a bunch of boards looking for a mellow board to my liking, but they keep avoiding me. I thought I could take some pictures to share so the money won't be completely wasted. The closest I got is a shop board from Greece that was pressed on the mellow PS Stix PS101 mold, but with a blunt shape that's not exactly my favorite.

Most of the PS Stix boards currently out there (Quasi, WKND, GX1000...) seem to be pressed on the H-mold, which was also used for a lot of the old Alien boards. PS Stix was recently advertising smaller minimun quantities on their standard shapes and they were all on this mold, so I except a lot more of these popping up as shop boards and through smaller brands. Below you can see how the PS101 (bottom) and the H-mold (top) compare.


PS101 has the same angle for both nose and tail. H-mold has roughly the same mellow angle for the tail, but the nose is noticeably steeper. The H-mold seems shorter, which brings the kicks closer together. It also has deeper concave and more pronounced transition to the kicks, where the PS101 feels more organic to me.


Here's the PS101 compared to an Antihero on the DLX/BBS 8.25"/WB 14.375" shape with a III stamp (top).


The tail angle is just about the same for both and the nose is a touch steeper on the DLX. The mold on the DLX is again a bit shorter with more pronounced concave and kicks. This shows how even the mellower DLXs aren't that mellow after all.



By stacking them this way, the tail on the H-mold appears a tiny bit mellower, but the nose is still steeper. This is my main problem with the H-mold, as the tail can feel great, but any trick off the nose ghastly. The depth of concave is nearly identical in the center, but the DLX has more dipped kicks.


This is by no means an all-inclusive comparison, as it's just individual boards with no information on the stack positions for the PS Stix ones.
For me the PS101 would be my go-to, but a mellower BBS will do if nothing else is available. The H-mold won't be set up as I want to be able to do tricks off the nose as well.

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What is the functional purpose of the BBS dipped kicks?

I always like seeing board comparisons between woodshops and concaves as there can be some significant differences, as shown there.

To note too, even between different shapes, there seems to be significant differences in concave for the DLX boards, eg the 8.25 boards from I through to IV always seem way steeper than the 8.38s from I through to IV, some of those being exceptionally mellow (or just not steep, for those who say BBS could never be mellow concave) even in a few I stamped 8.38 boards I have, which are the least steep of all DLX boards I have seen.

As to the question of "dipped kicks" I think the word dipped could be replaced better with "spoon shaped" kicks, given the concave of BBS has a flat board from bolts through the middle straight line, compared to some which have a rocker (sit up more in the bolts from the middle) or dipped which used to mean sitting down more in the bolts than the middle, but terminology is down to interpretation more than anything else.

If the shape of the side to side concave down to the part where the kick starts to come up is the reference point, then that also varies between boards, some having way more side to side concave, others less, then almost all boards come down to flat across just before the kick starts, but it might be a little more pronounced on BBS boards because of the spoon shaped concave in the kicks.

As to why spoon concave, mainly because it holds your foot on the board more easily than a flat across kick, as described by a few different pro and other people over the years.

Of course when a board is getting older and has more flex, then I could definitely see more of a "dip" from middle to the kick as more pressure is put on the end of the kick.


Guessing this is already a bit too much, but anyone else with a perspective, opinion or comments, I would like to hear / see what others have to say too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Yewwman on June 11, 2023, 01:19:58 PM

I've been enjoying the dwindle ''mellow concave steep kicks'' decks lately, but shops dont really carry those brands anymore, suggestions? only decks i get decent pop with aces lol
 i hope this is the right thread for my question

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 11, 2023, 08:40:50 PM

Quote from: Yewwman on June 11, 2023, 01:19:58 PM

I've been enjoying the dwindle ''mellow concave steep kicks'' decks lately, but shops dont really carry those brands anymore, suggestions? only decks i get decent pop with aces lol
 i hope this is the right thread for my question

Was it specifically with Almost or Enjoi pro decks, or others?   And what size were you riding?


I had noticed the mellow concave option only with those two, more so than any team boards or other brands under Dwindle, but that doesn't mean that there weren't more out there.

Also the fact that almost all the Dwindle boards were going for so cheap (and still are in a lot of places) means you should be able to find some good deals and stock up a bit on the clearance sales, depending on funds and where you are.

Start with that anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on June 13, 2023, 07:40:04 AM

Quote from: Tale Crab on June 09, 2023, 06:21:25 PM

This could've also gone in the mellow boards thread, but I thought here the info might not get buried as quickly. I've bought a bunch of boards looking for a mellow board to my liking, but they keep avoiding me. I thought I could take some pictures to share so the money won't be completely wasted. The closest I got is a shop board from Greece that was pressed on the mellow PS Stix PS101 mold, but with a blunt shape that's not exactly my favorite.

Most of the PS Stix boards currently out there (Quasi, WKND, GX1000...) seem to be pressed on the H-mold, which was also used for a lot of the old Alien boards. PS Stix was recently advertising smaller minimun quantities on their standard shapes and they were all on this mold, so I except a lot more of these popping up as shop boards and through smaller brands. Below you can see how the PS101 (bottom) and the H-mold (top) compare.

(trimmed image in repost)

PS101 has the same angle for both nose and tail. H-mold has roughly the same mellow angle for the tail, but the nose is noticeably steeper. The H-mold seems shorter, which brings the kicks closer together. It also has deeper concave and more pronounced transition to the kicks, where the PS101 feels more organic to me.


Here's the PS101 compared to an Antihero on the DLX/BBS 8.25"/WB 14.375" shape with a III stamp (top).

(trimmed images in repost)

The tail angle is just about the same for both and the nose is a touch steeper on the DLX. The mold on the DLX is again a bit shorter with more pronounced concave and kicks. This shows how even the mellower DLXs aren't that mellow after all.


Here's how the PS Stix H-mold looks on top of the DLX.

(trimmed images in repost)

By stacking them this way, the tail on the H-mold appears a tiny bit mellower, but the nose is still steeper. This is my main problem with the H-mold, as the tail can feel great, but any trick off the nose ghastly. The depth of concave is nearly identical in the center, but the DLX has more dipped kicks.


This is by no means an all-inclusive comparison, as it's just individual boards with no information on the stack positions for the PS Stix ones.
For me the PS101 would be my go-to, but a mellower BBS will do if nothing else is available. The H-mold won't be set up as I want to be able to do tricks off the nose as well.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0650/9065/0364/files/2.jpg)

some dudes I know just started a new brand in Toronto called Solo Tango (@solotangopress on instagram) and they are using PS Stix. I got the 8.38" Full board - is this likely an H Mold board?  I like how PS does shorter WB on their 8.38" and 8.5" boards compared to BBS standard sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Tale Crab on June 13, 2023, 04:18:03 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on June 13, 2023, 07:40:04 AM

some dudes I know just started a new brand in Toronto called Solo Tango (@solotangopress on instagram) and they are using PS Stix. I got the 8.38" Full board - is this likely an H Mold board?  I like how PS does shorter WB on their 8.38" and 8.5" boards compared to BBS standard sizes.

This was posted in an older thread. All the stardard and full shapes are listed as being on the steeper H-mold, while the shaped boards are on PS101. It makes sense from a production point of view to just churn out boards using one type of mold, but I'm afraid it also means that there's going to be even less of the mellow ones coming out.

Quote from: zozu on November 17, 2022, 07:13:49 PM

the pdf they sent me
(https://i.ibb.co/LvC0Jb7/New-Project.png) (https://ibb.co/t3bHxkr)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 13, 2023, 05:00:23 PM

Quote from: Tale Crab on June 13, 2023, 04:18:03 PM

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some dudes I know just started a new brand in Toronto called Solo Tango (@solotangopress on instagram) and they are using PS Stix. I got the 8.38" Full board - is this likely an H Mold board?  I like how PS does shorter WB on their 8.38" and 8.5" boards compared to BBS standard sizes.

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This was posted in an older thread. All the stardard and full shapes are listed as being on the steeper H-mold, while the shaped boards are on PS101. It makes sense from a production point of view to just churn out boards using one type of mold, but I'm afraid it also means that there's going to be even less of the mellow ones coming out.

Good to have it here again though.

I wonder if people can ask them specifically for different molds if they have enough boards or if that is only for the top production brands that get to choose whatever they want or make their own shapes / sizes and choose the molds as well.


Thanks for (re)posting!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 14, 2023, 07:21:46 PM

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I thought this would be good here too, given all the talk of flat boards.

You guys can make up your own mind about terminology though.

:)

Quote from: Cesspool86 on June 13, 2023, 06:28:46 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/2gp7ggf/IMG-20230613-212105777.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gp7ggf)

Got the hopps 7.8 and the glue 7.75 from my local. Both are flat but the glue is flat as hell.  The ishod is a true fit 8.06. I fuck with the tue fits heavily. The thunders go with the lil guys

Quote from: Ok on June 14, 2023, 06:51:57 AM

yo…how flat are talking?

i am on a glue 8.125 and i really like the shape. it’s flat, could be flatter.
the other board i ride is an 8.06 true fit, not flat. not really a fan, cuz it’s steeper, and just…i know bbs makes ‘better’ (longer lasting) boards, but it just doesn’t feel nice, and the pop is decent at best. 360 flips are a saving grace of the truefit

Quote from: Cesspool86 on June 14, 2023, 06:24:38 PM

It's pretty damn flat. Like that was the first thing I noticed and the reason I bought it. It is a 7.75 so I don't know if that makes a difference.  Here's the true fit on top and the glue on bottom (https://i.ibb.co/2jsbzyP/IMG-20230614-212155282-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jsbzyP)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 14, 2023, 09:04:05 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on June 14, 2023, 07:21:46 PM

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I thought this would be good here too, given all the talk of flat boards.

You guys can make up your own mind about terminology though.

:)

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(https://i.ibb.co/2gp7ggf/IMG-20230613-212105777.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2gp7ggf)

Got the hopps 7.8 and the glue 7.75 from my local. Both are flat but the glue is flat as hell.  The ishod is a true fit 8.06. I fuck with the tue fits heavily. The thunders go with the lil guys

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Quote from: Ok on June 14, 2023, 06:51:57 AM

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yo…how flat are talking?

i am on a glue 8.125 and i really like the shape. it’s flat, could be flatter.
the other board i ride is an 8.06 true fit, not flat. not really a fan, cuz it’s steeper, and just…i know bbs makes ‘better’ (longer lasting) boards, but it just doesn’t feel nice, and the pop is decent at best. 360 flips are a saving grace of the truefit

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Quote from: Cesspool86 on June 14, 2023, 06:24:38 PM

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It's pretty damn flat. Like that was the first thing I noticed and the reason I bought it. It is a 7.75 so I don't know if that makes a difference.  Here's the true fit on top and the glue on bottom (https://i.ibb.co/2jsbzyP/IMG-20230614-212155282-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jsbzyP)

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hot damn that is flat. i like

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 15, 2023, 04:03:09 PM

Quote from: Tom Pearl on June 15, 2023, 01:57:38 PM

Anybody know who presses the Element decks that aren't made by BBS?

AS far as I know (besides EU which has a separate deal and Element boards there are on HLC wood) there are only BBS and China made boards, or at least those that have the sticker "Made in China" on them. 

Unknown woodshop, different to other brands that have "Made in China" on them.

Seems like every other day there is a different feeling and looking board out of China, so I don't doubt there are numerous unknown woodshops there as well.


The people who have skated them say they often have weird shapes and dimensions, at least the ones we have around here in AU but they still skate ok, quite simple construction and concave, not at all like Dwindle, BBS or any other main woodshop when comparing them, if that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on June 15, 2023, 07:34:17 PM

Is Pennswood still making decks?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 15, 2023, 07:37:46 PM

Quote from: DeepSpace9mm on June 15, 2023, 07:34:17 PM

Is Pennswood still making decks?

As of last year a local D.C. brand (Vicio) was still using them. I haven't heard any change so I assume they're still making boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: overwaxed on June 18, 2023, 07:53:02 AM

I grabbed a couple decks from the theories memorial day sale, it looks like they're back on chapman (which I think is clutch) - I'm not sure I've ever skated a clutch deck before but the shapes look pretty great, mellower than the BBS/PS stuff I've been on lately.

(https://i.imgur.com/m4XVnBk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tTIUvvo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Yrnv1sC.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 18, 2023, 05:17:15 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on June 18, 2023, 07:53:02 AM

I grabbed a couple decks from the theories memorial day sale, it looks like they're back on chapman (which I think is clutch) - I'm not sure I've ever skated a clutch deck before but the shapes look pretty great, mellower than the BBS/PS stuff I've been on lately.

Nice pics!


Others have said anything Chapman is Clutch wood too.


What, if anything is between the front bolt holes?


Most main manufacturers have certain tells, but some are harder to work out than others, eg

PS Stix - serial number, larger warning sticker
Clutch - letter and number stamp for the shape and size, eg P 8
BBS - single dimple, wider than a nail hole / BBS and warning sticker


Many other (unknown from China especially) woodshops are putting a nail between front bolts, so a very fine point indent, more as a point of reference than anything else, but it is not hard for some woodshops to change up their marking which can confuse some people as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2023, 09:37:14 AM

last two decks, one a 8.06 krooked truefit, maybe - 2 or a 3, too steep, i knew that going in, but wanted to try it cuz short. and the graphic is nice. i don’t skate it well, not a huge fan. predictably

got a glue, i think it’s 8.125, just picked it because it is flat. the graphic is cool, i guess, just two colors, minimal. but top and bottom ply are purple with a pink middle play, and that peaking thru the orange graphic is kinda sick. i guess i wish the board was a little smaller, but it works. i like the ps, it’ll probably be lifeless in a week or two, but for now, the pop is noticeably better

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lepanto on June 19, 2023, 10:09:01 AM

DISORDER (nijah company) seems loke their boards are made in china. Just see hes ig history that it appears on the label.

No more pstix?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 19, 2023, 06:49:51 PM

Quote from: Le Flaute on June 19, 2023, 10:09:01 AM

DISORDER (nijah company) seems loke their boards are made in china. Just see hes ig history that it appears on the label.

No more pstix?

I wonder if he is still using PS Stix for his own and maybe special edition boards, but then the rest of the boards are now from China.

That used to happen a lot with some brands over the years, where the team or riders would get whatever they wanted, but the boards that went to shops were completely different, often lesser quality.

Thanks for the post too!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Lepanto on June 20, 2023, 02:19:00 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 19, 2023, 06:49:51 PM

Quote from: Le Flaute on June 19, 2023, 10:09:01 AM

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DISORDER (nijah company) seems loke their boards are made in china. Just see hes ig history that it appears on the label.

No more pstix?

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I wonder if he is still using PS Stix for his own and maybe special edition boards, but then the rest of the boards are now from China.

That used to happen a lot with some brands over the years, where the team or riders would get whatever they wanted, but the boards that went to shops were completely different, often lesser quality.

Thanks for the post too!

Yeah probably is like that. He and the team rides what pstix make for them and rest is china business.

Not too long ago(like few months) saw a post of professor doing stuff with a 8,25deck for nijah, surprised me because nijah usually rides 8,125

Would be nice to know what china woodshop is

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 21, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 21, 2023, 08:41:05 PM

Quote from: Ok on June 21, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

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Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

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i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

I have 2 as wall hangers, look like they use their standard popsicle shape.

Their 8.0 is 31.8 and 14.25, slightly tapered tail, standard nose.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 21, 2023, 10:31:34 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 21, 2023, 08:41:05 PM

Quote from: Ok on June 21, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

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Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

[close]

i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

[close]

I have 2 as wall hangers, look like they use their standard popsicle shape.

Their 8.0 is 31.8 and 14.25, slightly tapered tail, standard nose.

perfect.
how flat tho?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 21, 2023, 11:32:22 PM

Quote from: Ok on June 21, 2023, 10:31:34 PM

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Quote from: Ok on June 21, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

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Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

[close]

i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

[close]

I have 2 as wall hangers, look like they use their standard popsicle shape.

Their 8.0 is 31.8 and 14.25, slightly tapered tail, standard nose.

[close]

perfect.
how flat tho?

Medium kicks, medium mellow across the middle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on June 22, 2023, 05:10:47 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 21, 2023, 11:32:22 PM

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Quote from: Ok on June 21, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

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Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

[close]

i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

[close]

I have 2 as wall hangers, look like they use their standard popsicle shape.

Their 8.0 is 31.8 and 14.25, slightly tapered tail, standard nose.

[close]

perfect.
how flat tho?

[close]

Medium kicks, medium mellow across the middle.

thank you!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on June 23, 2023, 08:23:14 AM

Quote from: Ok on June 22, 2023, 05:10:47 AM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on June 21, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

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Anyone here skated a Western Edition board recently?

I see they are listed as PS Stix, but I'm wondering which shape they use.

[close]

i also very much want this info.
western edition is sick, and i was a big fan in the we did it era. because the locals never stick them, i don’t ride em, but would love to

[close]

I have 2 as wall hangers, look like they use their standard popsicle shape.

Their 8.0 is 31.8 and 14.25, slightly tapered tail, standard nose.

[close]

perfect.
how flat tho?

[close]

Medium kicks, medium mellow across the middle.

[close]

thank you!

They just had a really good sale. I bought a few decks which are coming in today. Always happy to support that company.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BrknBrds on June 23, 2023, 04:56:13 PM

Any info on magenta boards and the feel of them and concave ? I honestly love their chill relaxed videos and aesthetic. I was looking for a real mellow, flattish deck to do some flat ground and simple stuff with.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: overwaxed on June 23, 2023, 04:57:33 PM

Quote from: BrknBrds on June 23, 2023, 04:56:13 PM

Any info on magenta boards and the feel of them and concave ? I honestly love their chill relaxed videos and aesthetic. I was looking for a real mellow, flattish deck to do some flat ground and simple stuff with.

I just got one, an 8.25 - I think they have different shapes and concave, but the one I got is fairly mellow and definitely helping with getting flip tricks back

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 23, 2023, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on June 23, 2023, 04:57:33 PM

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Any info on magenta boards and the feel of them and concave ? I honestly love their chill relaxed videos and aesthetic. I was looking for a real mellow, flattish deck to do some flat ground and simple stuff with.

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I just got one, an 8.25 - I think they have different shapes and concave, but the one I got is fairly mellow and definitely helping with getting flip tricks back

Magenta is BBS, so depending on your perspective, BBS boards are usually not that mellow when compared to some other brands.

For argument sake though, two Magenta team 8.5 boards that I got recently were some of the steepest boards I have seen in recent years, but others have been on the mellow side I had before that, as well as some I had seen in other shops and places.

Generally they were on the same mold and brown stains as Passport, which were usually more mellow through the middle concave but the kicks were still medium to steep.  More recently though they seem to be on any other stains which might be more from the steeper molds, but it can vary between different boards or molds, also depending on which board in the stack or press.

If the kicks are too steep, they can be flattened out, as per others parking on their boards, and definitely works, but something that can scare people off.


If you are not sure, I would recommend trying to go somewhere to check before buying, so at least you can see for yourself what the boards are like, but being BBS they are good solid boards and usually have decent shapes too.


* I just bought a few digital angle finders, so can go check some next time I am somewhere that has them too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BrknBrds on June 23, 2023, 07:14:33 PM

I really appreciate all the help and comments. The Slap community is the best, hands down.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 23, 2023, 09:25:56 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on June 23, 2023, 04:57:33 PM

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Any info on magenta boards and the feel of them and concave ? I honestly love their chill relaxed videos and aesthetic. I was looking for a real mellow, flattish deck to do some flat ground and simple stuff with.

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I just got one, an 8.25 - I think they have different shapes and concave, but the one I got is fairly mellow and definitely helping with getting flip tricks back

After having a bit of a go with the digital angle finder, these are the results.  Not ground breaking by any means, but from standing on them and getting a feel for them, as well as now measuring them, the results add up the same.


BBS boards:

DLX IV (mellow feeling)  has about 22 degree nose and 21 degree tail

DLX I (steeper feeling) has about 23 degree nose and 22 degree tail


This Magenta deck, same as a Black Label I checked as well, 24 degree nose and 23 degree tail, both feeling very steep to me.  Very deep feeling concave as well across the board too.  Blue / orange tops and bottoms.


Another older Magenta deck, 22 nose and 21 tail, way less concave across the board as well, so more comfortable to stand on, but it has been skated, which would have caused the kicks to flatten slightly.


Compare that to boards I have driven over and flattened which have about 19 - 20 nose and 17 - 18 tail, even one way older deck that is just a little too flat feeling which has a 15 - 16 degree tail, so that is about as low as is comfortable for me.

This is a fun little thing to have around, even though I wouldn't be checking every board as I trust my feet to feel what it is like easily enough.


(https://i.ibb.co/NSb5DYv/Digital-angle-deck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cLV0fTB)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gary Bucket on June 24, 2023, 05:50:45 PM

Clutch K6 stamp on a Hopps Eggeling golf board im just getting around to setting up. From last summers drop i think, not surprised theyre mixing in clutch but i do prefer BBS

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on June 24, 2023, 06:40:26 PM

The degrees and the fingers of flat make up kicks…..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on June 26, 2023, 11:32:08 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)

Same woodshop as Dwindle, it seems:
https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/ (https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on June 26, 2023, 11:38:10 AM

Quote from: Phao Lo on June 26, 2023, 11:32:08 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)

Same woodshop as Dwindle, it seems:
https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/ (https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/)

I literally came here to ask what Chop was and turns out the brave slap soldiers had me covered. Thank u for ur service

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 26, 2023, 04:30:03 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on June 26, 2023, 11:38:10 AM

Quote from: Phao Lo on June 26, 2023, 11:32:08 AM

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9ppfhPTGP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)

Same woodshop as Dwindle, it seems:
https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/ (https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/)

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I literally came here to ask what Chop was and turns out the brave slap soldiers had me covered. Thank u for ur service

Thanks for posting!!!



Interesting he didn't want to name Dwindle anywhere in there, but DSM / Chop Chop Wood Shop was and still is a separate entity to Dwindle Distribution.


His words:

louiebarletta
New samples in, and I’m super stoked!! We had much debate on what wood to run with. There’s so many good options and tons of pros and cons for each wood factory. in the end we chose chop, I personally have a relationship with them having used them for many many years in the past. I won’t name the other factories we experimented with, but every board I rode felt good, but they just didn’t feel like home, if that makes any sense. Anyhow, board samples are in!! We have been taking orders and are now in full production!!! Thank you everyone who has been super supportive! I’ll continue to say it, your support has been super motivating and greatly greatly appreciated! Stay tuned in at jacuzziunlimited


My understanding on things is this (which could easily be very wrong) so someone correct me if this is not right:

Dwindle (under Globe) was the parent company, which started DSM (which I thought was Dwindle Skateboard Manufacturing but it has been said is Douglas Street Manufacturing) but almost jokingly called Chop Chop Wood Shop when they first started it in China in 2002.  Although Dwindle has been bought and sold to then turn it into the hollow shell of an entity it is right now, the DSM woodshop has not been part of any sales / dealings and is still making boards for whoever wants to buy and use them for their own companies, primarily Dwindle brands, but others big and small alike, as per the first page with listings.


Also make of this what you will:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwindle_Distribution

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 26, 2023, 04:45:19 PM

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That also reminds me I have quite a few updates to do on the list as well.


Anything else anyone can see that needs fixing, changing or whatever, please let me know.


Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Makaveli on June 26, 2023, 05:42:43 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on June 23, 2023, 05:52:44 PM

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Any info on magenta boards and the feel of them and concave ? I honestly love their chill relaxed videos and aesthetic. I was looking for a real mellow, flattish deck to do some flat ground and simple stuff with.

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I just got one, an 8.25 - I think they have different shapes and concave, but the one I got is fairly mellow and definitely helping with getting flip tricks back

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Magenta is BBS, so depending on your perspective, BBS boards are usually not that mellow when compared to some other brands.

For argument sake though, two Magenta team 8.5 boards that I got recently were some of the steepest boards I have seen in recent years, but others have been on the mellow side I had before that, as well as some I had seen in other shops and places.

Generally they were on the same mold and brown stains as Passport, which were usually more mellow through the middle concave but the kicks were still medium to steep.  More recently though they seem to be on any other stains which might be more from the steeper molds, but it can vary between different boards or molds, also depending on which board in the stack or press.

If the kicks are too steep, they can be flattened out, as per others parking on their boards, and definitely works, but something that can scare people off.


If you are not sure, I would recommend trying to go somewhere to check before buying, so at least you can see for yourself what the boards are like, but being BBS they are good solid boards and usually have decent shapes too.


* I just bought a few digital angle finders, so can go check some next time I am somewhere that has them too.

I heard recently that they switched to a cheaper woodshop, maybe Clutch.

My local stopped carrying them due to people complaining about the lower quality.

Will say I did not like my last Magenta. The old ones were good af tho. Steep concave.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on June 26, 2023, 11:29:40 PM

dsm is douglas street manufacturing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 27, 2023, 01:03:28 AM

Quote from: pointandclick on June 26, 2023, 11:29:40 PM

dsm is douglas street manufacturing

Thanks!


I don't know why I thought otherwise, maybe just D for Dwindle, but then the other question I have is who owns DSM woodshop, still Globe?

Even being Australian based, I never really went that deep into info about Globe / Hardcore, but knew who they were and occasionally who people talked to regarding shop account stuff, but that is about it.

That was an interesting read anyway.


Not to just do the wiki copy and paste, but in trying to find out more info, there is almost nothing around besides this:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_International


Globe operates its own factory to manufacture the skateboards and trucks. The DSM (Douglas Street Manufacturing) Premium Woodshop is located in Shenzhen, China, with skateboard icon Rodney Mullen closely involved in its production practices from its inception.[14] DSM imports maple logs from Canada's Great Lakes region for the production of its decks. A 2013 TransWorld SKATEboarding article likened DSM's approach to the sourcing and treatment of wood; "as the sandwich shop that prepares all of their meat from the whole animal versus others who order their cuts from a wholesaler. DSM has the in-house butcher."[15] DSM was first publicly announced in 2003 and caused a widespread surprised reaction in the skateboard industry, as production had previously been solely based in North America and concern was raised about job losses. Globe CEO Matt Hill, stated at the time: "When you get down to the labor issues, if we sell a lot more boards, then we’ll create jobs here (in the U.S.A.), it’ll open a lot more doors.”

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 420beers on June 27, 2023, 03:34:29 PM

i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

(https://i.imgur.com/Cwna51H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gy8SIhS.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on June 27, 2023, 04:16:35 PM

Quote from: 420beers on June 27, 2023, 03:34:29 PM

i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

(https://i.imgur.com/Cwna51H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gy8SIhS.jpg)

That ungripped one is Clutch. I’d imagine the fuller one is BBS. Tough to tell with the grip on, though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 420beers on June 28, 2023, 03:28:59 AM

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i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

(https://i.imgur.com/Cwna51H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gy8SIhS.jpg)

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That ungripped one is Clutch. I’d imagine the fuller one is BBS. Tough to tell with the grip on, though.

Yeah I didn't take one without the grip but thank you for the help

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on June 28, 2023, 07:16:12 PM

Quote from: 420beers on June 28, 2023, 03:28:59 AM

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i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

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That ungripped one is Clutch. I’d imagine the fuller one is BBS. Tough to tell with the grip on, though.

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Yeah I didn't take one without the grip but thank you for the help

Quote from: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

The first one could even be one of the "O" shape, which from that shapes link is "Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase" and all that, which would make sense if they are using Clutch wood, just ended up with different shapes from one run to another.

Theories of Atlantis is the distributor (owner?) of those brands and as they do their own heat transfers in house, they could put whatever graphic on whatever wood they like, so it could be a bit tricky as it was said they were BBS, then said Clutch, then maybe back on BBS but obviously that pink board is Clutch, so that might be what they are going with for most, or even everything now.

I guess the other thing is checking / comparing concave between the two boards, but without striping the grip off the front bolts of the current one, it is hard to tell.

BBS just has a dimple dot between front bolts but Clutch has the letter and number combination to show the shape and size.


Also I don't think BBS are supplying them with "full" shaped boards, more so just the generic Generator shapes that everyone gets for their own brands or shop boards or even blanks as per the skatesamples.com site, so the more I think about it the more I would say it is a Clutch O shape, but at the end of the day, it is just a guess on my part.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FROTHY on June 28, 2023, 08:32:15 PM

I just rode a board with a K7 imprint, which sounds like it’s clutch. That was a really good medium-mellow 8.25. One of the rare times I retire a board in tact.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: 420beers on June 29, 2023, 03:50:41 AM

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Quote from: 420beers on June 28, 2023, 03:28:59 AM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on June 27, 2023, 04:16:35 PM

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Quote from: 420beers on June 27, 2023, 03:34:29 PM

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i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

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That ungripped one is Clutch. I’d imagine the fuller one is BBS. Tough to tell with the grip on, though.

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Yeah I didn't take one without the grip but thank you for the help

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Quote from: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

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'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

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The first one could even be one of the "O" shape, which from that shapes link is "Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase" and all that, which would make sense if they are using Clutch wood, just ended up with different shapes from one run to another.

Theories of Atlantis is the distributor (owner?) of those brands and as they do their own heat transfers in house, they could put whatever graphic on whatever wood they like, so it could be a bit tricky as it was said they were BBS, then said Clutch, then maybe back on BBS but obviously that pink board is Clutch, so that might be what they are going with for most, or even everything now.

I guess the other thing is checking / comparing concave between the two boards, but without striping the grip off the front bolts of the current one, it is hard to tell.

BBS just has a dimple dot between front bolts but Clutch has the letter and number combination to show the shape and size.


Also I don't think BBS are supplying them with "full" shaped boards, more so just the generic Generator shapes that everyone gets for their own brands or shop boards or even blanks as per the skatesamples.com site, so the more I think about it the more I would say it is a Clutch O shape, but at the end of the day, it is just a guess on my part.

Thank you for the input, I'm startin to think it's that O shape too. Any ideas on what the next best option for big nose mellow concave would be?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on June 29, 2023, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: 420beers on June 29, 2023, 03:50:41 AM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on June 27, 2023, 04:16:35 PM

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Quote from: 420beers on June 27, 2023, 03:34:29 PM

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i got one of the hopps throw team boards in an 8.5 and the nose and tail are super full and just feel huge which i like so i ordered another of em and when i got this one its way more pointy, i know how fried this sounds but can anyone tell me which wood shop makes the first one based off that description?

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That ungripped one is Clutch. I’d imagine the fuller one is BBS. Tough to tell with the grip on, though.

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Yeah I didn't take one without the grip but thank you for the help

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Quote from: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

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'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

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The first one could even be one of the "O" shape, which from that shapes link is "Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase" and all that, which would make sense if they are using Clutch wood, just ended up with different shapes from one run to another.

Theories of Atlantis is the distributor (owner?) of those brands and as they do their own heat transfers in house, they could put whatever graphic on whatever wood they like, so it could be a bit tricky as it was said they were BBS, then said Clutch, then maybe back on BBS but obviously that pink board is Clutch, so that might be what they are going with for most, or even everything now.

I guess the other thing is checking / comparing concave between the two boards, but without striping the grip off the front bolts of the current one, it is hard to tell.

BBS just has a dimple dot between front bolts but Clutch has the letter and number combination to show the shape and size.


Also I don't think BBS are supplying them with "full" shaped boards, more so just the generic Generator shapes that everyone gets for their own brands or shop boards or even blanks as per the skatesamples.com site, so the more I think about it the more I would say it is a Clutch O shape, but at the end of the day, it is just a guess on my part.

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Thank you for the input, I'm startin to think it's that O shape too. Any ideas on what the next best option for big nose mellow concave would be?

Cleaver (when they used BBS) were a nice shape, fat nose like a FA/Hockey without being overly steep, standard dimensions (8.25 x 31.75 x 14.25).

Title: Violet Dims
Post by: ajb0611 on June 29, 2023, 09:12:56 AM

Hey curious what the dimensions are on Violet decks. I hate it when companies only list the width. If anyone knows what the length and wheelbases are for there 8.38 and 8.5 decks it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Title: Re: Violet Dims
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 30, 2023, 05:23:35 PM

Quote from: ajb0611 on June 29, 2023, 09:12:56 AM

Hey curious what the dimensions are on Violet decks. I hate it when companies only list the width. If anyone knows what the length and wheelbases are for there 8.38 and 8.5 decks it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

They are one of those companies that don't release info, as well as only a few shops actually having their boards, which does make it harder.

If you are in USA you can contact a few shops for more details, including 808 Skate and Post Modern, as per links below:


https://www.postmodern411.com/brands/violet/

https://www.808skate.com/brands/violet-skateboards/its-violet-skateboards-peace-psalm-91-deck-blue.html



Then the only other one which has any type of info is Heshdawgz which is Japanese, and at least has width and length:


https://heshdawgz.com/?s=violet


8.5 x 31.8 or 31.9

8.38  x 31.8


Going by those dimensions and some 917 Call Me decks I have also being those, which all have 14.25 wb I would say that could be the most common size, length and wheelbase, factored in.

The only other thing is some have said they are BBS and some PS Stix, so I don't know which is which, but it would show on top with PS Stix always putting the serial number and Made in Mexico with the size in a larger font under that, whereas BBS would often just have a dot, some other info with Made in Mexico all in smaller font.



Hope that helps, but I would say check with those shops that have them in stock - someone in there should have a measuring tape or at the very least compare them to something like a DLX 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (as per the sticker on every board) which is the blue eagle, which should be about the same dimensions.

Both those shops show as having the DLX boards in those sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 03, 2023, 05:37:19 PM

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Adding this here too:

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Hi!

Been watching some "FTP" decks arround.

I am curious about what woodshop they use and what its shapes/info are for 8,25 and 8,38 decks.

lenght, wb.. squared? pointy? mid? tail/nose


somebody skated them or got info?

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Yoo somebody brings some light?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159381385


The only FTP decks that comes up that easily shows woodshop include this one, which is on Generator (BBS) wood, so would be the same usual Generator shape and dimensions.

Not sure if this is an old one or the company is even still making boards, or if it was just a run at something to widen their fashion business, which is what it looks like on their instagram account, but I don't really follow all the new cool brands either.


Another listing from the same ebay collectables seller, maybe on Clutch wood or something else, but who knows.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314159378218


https://www.instagram.com/ftp/


Looking at other places, the decks are up to four times the price of any other normal board, so are they more just high priced fashion collectables?  I would rather buy four local shop boards and know I have good wood and supported a local shop, but that is just me.  Not hating, just don't understand the hype, but I have always been more into good wood and graphics / brand second, even though I do have favourites anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on July 04, 2023, 01:54:00 AM

An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuQcL74RA28/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lamfordie on July 06, 2023, 10:10:13 AM

I bought some new Skatewarehose blanks and noticed theyre not the Clutch blanks. They have a wide mellow nose and have the width of the board pressed on the the top where the nose is. Also noticed it said made in China. Curious to know who is making these boards?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 06, 2023, 05:20:51 PM

Quote from: lamfordie on July 06, 2023, 10:10:13 AM

I bought some new Skatewarehose blanks and noticed theyre not the Clutch blanks. They have a wide mellow nose and have the width of the board pressed on the the top where the nose is. Also noticed it said made in China. Curious to know who is making these boards?

I have seen a few different versions of the sort of board you are talking about, usually brought in as blanks by this or that distributor for shop boards or small runs to do graphics on for people who do their own brands, but as to exactly who or where, it is just one of the many woodshops in China, quite possibly Excel, or Jeeping, from the business search that comes up with supply and history of dealings.

All those sort of places are a little harder to try to get any info on besides sometimes seeing their names on product boxes or other info like that.


Overall the boards are reasonable, all identical single press type of thing, definitely not bottom of the barrel cheap rubbish, but people have said they are also not quite in the same league as the top woodshops.

Some people really like the way they skate, others not so much, but it was said there are literally thousands of shapes for those boards, so when the distributor or who ever brings them into the country, (usually a shipping container full) they would have checked samples or gone with the most popular shapes / choose what they want well in advance and get tens of thousands of units in per shipment.

I had compiled a folder of pics of the tops of boards with the size stamps, but will have to find it and post again if anyone is interested.

They are fairly generic plain looking though, eg just the number 8.25 or 8.375 or 8.5 on them and nothing else.  That is different to the Element boards, or the ones from Canada Skateshop or other places that had a lot more info, eg size, other dimensions, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: stupidfuckface on July 07, 2023, 07:31:11 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on July 04, 2023, 01:54:00 AM

An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuQcL74RA28/

If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on July 07, 2023, 10:35:28 AM

Quote from: stupidfuckface on July 07, 2023, 07:31:11 AM

Quote from: fernando the skater on July 04, 2023, 01:54:00 AM

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An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuQcL74RA28/

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If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

Imagine the endless discussion on shape, wheelbase etc...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2023, 04:55:34 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on July 07, 2023, 10:35:28 AM

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An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

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If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

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Imagine the endless discussion on shape, wheelbase etc...

I get what you are saying, but just go to www.skatesamples.com and you have BBS boards, whatever quantities you want in whatever size you want, no need for graphics, at a reasonable price too.  More so for USA people than anywhere else in the world, but they still worked out cheaper to send here than buying something I didn't want locally if I got more than a few.

The diversity is also what makes Slap so good, so I can't easily see any one size, shape or anything else being common enough, besides having one on the wall or stashed away as a collectable deck, more so than riding it.


Either way it would be interesting to see what people would come up with.

Fairy troll graphic?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on July 07, 2023, 05:03:26 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2023, 04:55:34 PM

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An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

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If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

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Imagine the endless discussion on shape, wheelbase etc...

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I get what you are saying, but just go to www.skatesamples.com and you have BBS boards, whatever quantities you want in whatever size you want, no need for graphics, at a reasonable price too.  More so for USA people than anywhere else in the world, but they still worked out cheaper to send here than buying something I didn't want locally if I got more than a few.

The diversity is also what makes Slap so good, so I can't easily see any one size, shape or anything else being common enough, besides having one on the wall or stashed away as a collectable deck, more so than riding it.


Either way it would be interesting to see what people would come up with.

Fairy troll graphic?

A best of 'stylin on you' series would be amazing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on July 07, 2023, 07:33:13 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

Top of the World uses the O shape here in Canada for their shop boards.

https://www.topoftheworld.com/products/stickers-30?variant=40454937149529 (https://www.topoftheworld.com/products/stickers-30?variant=40454937149529)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 07, 2023, 07:53:23 PM

Quote from: LewFarrell on July 07, 2023, 07:33:13 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on June 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

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'B' Shape - An update to the famous G shape. Tapered on both ends with a standard wheelbase. Excellent all around board.

If I found a brand / shop that consistently used the 'O' Shape I'd gladly stick to those - Square nose and tail, standard wheelbase... Popular new shape amongst the cool kids.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1

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Top of the World uses the O shape here in Canada for their shop boards.

https://www.topoftheworld.com/products/stickers-30?variant=40454937149529 (https://www.topoftheworld.com/products/stickers-30?variant=40454937149529)

That is pretty cool they list the shape in the info as well, so you can choose which shape and size you want, eg

8.25 E shape
8.25 O shape
8.375 E shape
8.375 O shape
8.5 O shape


TOP OF THE WORLD DECK - "TRES EQUIS"

30 YEAR ANNIVERSARY DECK - STICKERS BACKGROUND

*GOLD FOIL INLAY

PRINTED IN CANADA

MADE IN MEXICO

Shape Notes:

E SHAPE IS A TRADITIONAL DECK SHAPE (BAKER SHAPE)
O SHAPE HAS A MORE SQUARED OFF NOSE AND TAIL (QUASI/FA SHAPE)
POOL SHAPE (9") TAPERED SHAPE WITH SQUARE NOSE AND TAIL
ONE SHEET OF JESSUP GRIP INCLUDED.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 08, 2023, 02:29:49 AM

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An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

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If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

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Imagine the endless discussion on shape, wheelbase etc...

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I get what you are saying, but just go to www.skatesamples.com and you have BBS boards, whatever quantities you want in whatever size you want, no need for graphics, at a reasonable price too.  More so for USA people than anywhere else in the world, but they still worked out cheaper to send here than buying something I didn't want locally if I got more than a few.

The diversity is also what makes Slap so good, so I can't easily see any one size, shape or anything else being common enough, besides having one on the wall or stashed away as a collectable deck, more so than riding it.


Either way it would be interesting to see what people would come up with.

Fairy troll graphic?

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A best of 'stylin on you' series would be amazing

Or the most recent pit

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on July 10, 2023, 08:52:18 PM

got a few decks from board pusher, they could supply what some friends needed for a thing.
board has a white circular sticker, with a red maple leaf on top, and then the number 5. control?
the board itself looks kinda gross: no colored plys, thick plys….fairly flat tho. doesn’t seem like it’ll last long, but had a great time skating it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on July 10, 2023, 09:15:48 PM

Quote from: Ok on July 10, 2023, 08:52:18 PM

got a few decks from board pusher, they could supply what some friends needed for a thing.
board has a white circular sticker, with a red maple leaf on top, and then the number 5. control?
the board itself looks kinda gross: no colored plys, thick plys….fairly flat tho. doesn’t seem like it’ll last long, but had a great time skating it.

Yeah the red maple leaf is a Control thing

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on July 11, 2023, 08:16:38 AM

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An Instagram post promoting the PS Stix 50 board offer.

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If BBS had this I would suggest we get together and crowd fund some Slap “shop” decks...

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Imagine the endless discussion on shape, wheelbase etc...

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I get what you are saying, but just go to www.skatesamples.com and you have BBS boards, whatever quantities you want in whatever size you want, no need for graphics, at a reasonable price too.  More so for USA people than anywhere else in the world, but they still worked out cheaper to send here than buying something I didn't want locally if I got more than a few.

The diversity is also what makes Slap so good, so I can't easily see any one size, shape or anything else being common enough, besides having one on the wall or stashed away as a collectable deck, more so than riding it.


Either way it would be interesting to see what people would come up with.

Fairy troll graphic?

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A best of 'stylin on you' series would be amazing

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Or the most recent pit

getting funds to order the boards would be easy. Distribution of said decks would be a nightmare, unless one of you have a business with a fedex or ups account and can ship boards at a reasonable price.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 12, 2023, 07:54:35 PM

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Might seem like an insignificant detail, but should I change any reference of Dwindle to DSM in the main page, in the woodshop listings?

Are people going to know DSM or does everyone know Dwindle wood more easily?


Just was thinking about Jacuzzi thread / post with reference to Chop Chop Woodshop, but even putting that on there is not really right either.


Any thoughts?


Thanks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 12, 2023, 10:14:50 PM

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And in case anyone didn't see the dedicated thread, this one is worth checking out on the woodshop front.

Definitely needed its own thread, but I am curious to hear more.


DLX boards made in China thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=127113.0

Quote from: REGS on July 11, 2023, 10:25:30 PM

Debated putting this in the woodshop thread but feel like it deserves its own discussion.

The recent DLX prebook has about 70% of the boards listed as Made in China. They cost roughly the same as a pre-Covid DLX board while the BBS boards are 30-40% more expensive.

From our rep:

In a bold but completely logical move, Deluxe have set up an Asia based board manufacturer to counter the ongoing board price increases from their primary factory. These boards are significantly cheaper and are set up with Deluxe's custom shapes and molds. For the purists, favorites like the AH Classic Eagles are still made in North America.

How long until every company moves the bulk of operations to Asia?

I have seen quite a few board companies start to have boards from more than one woodshop, mostly something like BBS / PS Stix and then an "unknown" woodshop in China, just to have the two price options, or at least that is what they are saying, which does make sense.

Overall the boards from China are not bad, but they were a different concave and feel to other boards from BBS, from those brands that had both going on.

It will be interesting to see / hear if they are the same concave and everything else, which is what this seems to be, not just a generic press and then your graphic on whatever shapes they cut from those ones.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 12, 2023, 10:44:55 PM

Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see what happens, if it’s 70%, that’s a lot of volume so maybe they’ll invest or ramp up the quality like what Crail did with Dailan.  Their boards were poor and got a lot better…..

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 13, 2023, 05:01:04 AM

I’m skating an HLC that I bought in Europe and I like it a lot. Even when I thought it was getting prematurely soggy, it still skated really well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 15, 2023, 06:30:51 PM

Quote from: KidCarl on July 15, 2023, 05:28:07 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/8mwhNhk/image2023-07-15-19-19-18-081800.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7SD9j9h)
(https://i.ibb.co/5L08WGx/1689466947041650427486433807166.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WfhyWGp)
Got an element order today.
Element 30 squared Madars Apse 3.85
The engraving is different from all of the other element decks I've gotten, and it doesn't say BBS but has all the same stickers as previous decks. Does anyone recognize the engraving?

Quote from: LebowskisRug on July 15, 2023, 06:20:29 PM

Has to be one of the Chinese woodshops they're the only ones I know that engrave all the dimensions.

Yep, they are the ones that should have "Made in China" in very small print on the bottom of the rectangular red sticker that is usually on all those boards, over the back truck area.

Friends have them and like them, even though they are a different concave and shape to the BBS Element boards that are out, but the fact that they are on crazy good clearance prices all over the place means they are a reasonable alternative if you need a cheap board.



Another post here too:

Quote from: jgonzalez on July 15, 2023, 06:27:47 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/0F4SqKg/IMG-9429.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0F4SqKg)(https://i.ibb.co/R7T2qXn/IMG-9430.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R7T2qXn)
Got a BBS madars board with the dims printed near the nose.


Got a MIC board with the engraving looking similar

(https://i.ibb.co/9WJC389/IMG-9431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9WJC389)(https://i.ibb.co/L9nMKfK/IMG-9432.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L9nMKfK)(https://i.ibb.co/WxMt2Jk/IMG-9433.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WxMt2Jk)
Dims near nose and element logo near tail. Graphic for reference.

Would be cool to know the name and where the major wood shops are in China and what brands use who instead of MIC as a blanket statement.

As to the names of the woodshops in China, the main ones besides DSM, Dalian and Excel, even Jeeping and others have very little name recognition and almost zero branding or brand awareness out there, from what I can see or gather.

They operate more behind the scenes and whatever deals are done are usually on a level that doesn't involve a lot of information about the brand or the woodshop.

Yes it is frustrating, when people ask or want to know more, but I don't think there is anything that will change in that regard for those sort of woodshops in the way that others are very well known, eg BBS, PS Stix, Clutch / ASF or similar.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on July 20, 2023, 03:49:24 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

Brodega is a killer name, love it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: goodatmeth on July 20, 2023, 03:52:12 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

My new local shop gets their decks from quarter. They say they're actually made in china and not germany at all. Which strongly contradicts the quarter branding.
* The decks are from superply, which is under quarter.
I have the superply catalog with all shapes and sizes if anybody is interested.

Here's what the quarter website says: "We source the blank decks from factories with decades of experience in production and development."
So yeah, seems like china

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 20, 2023, 05:50:42 AM

I can confirm Quarter get their decks from China

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 06:05:03 AM

Quote from: moonordie on July 20, 2023, 03:49:24 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

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Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

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Brodega is a killer name, love it.

They do hilariously good graphics.
Their own takes on classic graphics by world or antihero, but also completely original ones.
(https://i.ibb.co/0sCRx6S/IMG-2572.png) (https://ibb.co/0sCRx6S)(https://i.ibb.co/Bnt1Ym4/IMG-2573.png) (https://ibb.co/Bnt1Ym4)

Quote from: goodatmeth on July 20, 2023, 03:52:12 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

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Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

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My new local shop gets their decks from quarter. They say they're actually made in china and not germany at all. Which strongly contradicts the quarter branding.
* The decks are from superply, which is under quarter.
I have the superply catalog with all shapes and sizes if anybody is interested.

Here's what the quarter website says: "We source the blank decks from factories with decades of experience in production and development."
So yeah, seems like china

Sure does seem like it.
Have you tried them?
Reports around here says they’re fine, albeit a little heavy.

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 20, 2023, 05:50:42 AM

I can confirm Quarter get their decks from China

That’s too bad. If somethings seem too good to be true, they probably are.
I really wanted to ride European pressed boards, but can’t see HLCs work for me with their 14.2” WB and 7.50” noses. That shit is wack.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Basingstoke on July 20, 2023, 08:59:55 AM

I had a UK brand named Avenue, that I believe was from Quarter and it was like a DSM board with mellow kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 02:03:12 PM

Quote from: Basingstoke on July 20, 2023, 08:59:55 AM

I had a UK brand named Avenue, that I believe was from Quarter and it was like a DSM board with mellow kicks.

Mellow kick DSM, perhaps I’d quite like that.
Thanks man  ;)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on July 21, 2023, 04:18:47 AM

Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 21, 2023, 08:43:43 PM

Quote from: Ghost Face on July 21, 2023, 04:18:47 AM

Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

Thanks!


Is that everywhere, or just EU though?


DM if you have other info but better not to share with everyone.

I am curious.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on July 22, 2023, 01:09:34 AM

I thought Rave is from France but here is listed as UK. I don't think there are 2 brands with the same name in the UE right?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on July 22, 2023, 07:19:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 21, 2023, 08:43:43 PM

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Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

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Thanks!


Is that everywhere, or just EU though?


DM if you have other info but better not to share with everyone.

I am curious.

i asked on ig, they confirmed bbs still.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on July 22, 2023, 08:18:53 AM

Quote from: pointandclick on July 22, 2023, 07:19:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 21, 2023, 08:43:43 PM

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Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

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Thanks!


Is that everywhere, or just EU though?


DM if you have other info but better not to share with everyone.

I am curious.

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i asked on ig, they confirmed bbs still.

Well the Roger decks are 3 euro cheaper w/s than the flip and Skate Mental on the list. No way they are selling bbs imported to Europe for that price.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 22, 2023, 05:01:17 PM

Quote from: Ghost Face on July 22, 2023, 08:18:53 AM

Quote from: pointandclick on July 22, 2023, 07:19:51 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on July 21, 2023, 08:43:43 PM

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Quote from: Ghost Face on July 21, 2023, 04:18:47 AM

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Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

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Thanks!


Is that everywhere, or just EU though?


DM if you have other info but better not to share with everyone.

I am curious.

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i asked on ig, they confirmed bbs still.

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Well the Roger decks are 3 euro cheaper w/s than the flip and Skate Mental on the list. No way they are selling bbs imported to Europe for that price.

It wouldn't be the first time that a company has their main stock on one wood (USA - BBS) and a licensing deal in EU on other wood (HLC), so that could easily be possible.

For some smaller companies or with weird distribution options, this is more common, especially with EU and South America, from what I had seen in the past.


Any which way, I had Roger as BBS from 2022 and on Clutch before that 2021 or so.

Does the HLC catalog have any graphics that show as current in other shops in USA or old stock or any other easily identifiable things? eg certain runs of graphics can be shown as newer or older or more generic are often the licensed graphics.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 23, 2023, 05:21:14 PM

Do you think the shop is BBS, DLX owned or is it an entirely new shop?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 23, 2023, 07:44:20 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on July 23, 2023, 05:21:14 PM

Do you think the shop is BBS, DLX owned or is it an entirely new shop?

Pure speculation, but I would imagine they could generate molds and put them in existing machinery or buy a whole new space with all new machinery to make things, so it could go either way really.

As others have said, existing woodshops do make things harder because they have all the existing molds, gear, etc, but the new ones can buy the newest tech products, like the stacks of single press ten deck mold arragements and be making twice as many more boards per press than any old single press stacks with four boards per press.

I know I had seen some double presses in older factories / woodshops too, but it would seem overall that it would not be too hard to set up a new space with the knowledge and processes and a little extra initial capital to fund a venture like that, then enjoy the benefits of lower production costs over the long term, as long as everything went as planned.

The work space required is not huge either, so you don't have to be in a massive building to begin with, considering the vertical stacking of presses, even though every other aspect of production is still fairly normal - ply sorting, dying, glue machine, sanding, heat transfers and shrink wrap.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 24, 2023, 01:47:37 PM

I’m hoping it’s DLX owned and new, it’ll be good to see something different in the mix.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on July 24, 2023, 05:44:21 PM

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Just looking through some links and this is just one example of an "unknown" woodshop in China.  I would not know what sort of quality they produce, be it just for budget completes or better quality decks, but they do other parts too, like copies of Indy and Thunder trucks, wheels, bearings, etc.

I couldn't say I have ever seen any of their boards, but I have seen some other boards of unknown origin that someone was selling, which looked and felt like good enough quality, but I was not about to buy even one, when I know I could get something I am very familiar with for about the same price and don't have to worry.



Foxen Xinda skateboard factory


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq-jl6BLYn-/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqIErxfO6GH/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on July 24, 2023, 10:48:03 PM

On Louie's Insta he's got pictures of new Jacuzzi Unlimited and Opera decks, they have the DSM top engravings.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on July 25, 2023, 11:25:48 AM

That’s sick….would be rad to see more companies using this wood shop. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 06:06:43 AM

anyone know other decks that would be similar in dimensions to the 8.75 eagle?  something 8.75 wide, over or around 32.5 total length, and under 15 wheel base

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on July 26, 2023, 06:47:28 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 06:06:43 AM

anyone know other decks that would be similar in dimensions to the 8.75 eagle?  something 8.75 wide, over or around 32.5 total length, and under 15 wheel base

i'm pretty sure the Krooked Team eyes 8.75 is exactly the same (dims AND shape)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on July 26, 2023, 07:00:35 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on July 26, 2023, 06:47:28 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 06:06:43 AM

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anyone know other decks that would be similar in dimensions to the 8.75 eagle?  something 8.75 wide, over or around 32.5 total length, and under 15 wheel base

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i'm pretty sure the Krooked Team eyes 8.75 is exactly the same (dims AND shape)

That’s been my experience. Same taper toward the tail as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 08:05:32 AM

ahh sorry i should have specified non-DLX brands.  thanks tho gang

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 26, 2023, 10:54:22 AM

Quote from: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 08:05:32 AM

ahh sorry i should have specified non-DLX brands.  thanks tho gang

I think someone who had the Sci Fi 8.75 said it was a better shape than the white eagle, but I can't remember dimensions and it is a bit late to start looking things up right now.

I should check it out after a sleep though...


Couldn't leave it at that.

Just had a look on Tactics and besides their own board, the Sci Fi is there too.

Looks like the standard Generator / BBS shape.


https://www.tactics.com/sci-fi-fantasy/corey-glick-875-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.5
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.75
NOSE (IN):   7.06
TAIL (IN):   6.75


This one too:

https://www.tactics.com/alltimers/noelle-team-875-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.56
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.625
NOSE (IN):   7.125
TAIL (IN):   6.75


For reference:

https://www.tactics.com/tactics/the-flower-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.5
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.75
NOSE (IN):   7.125
TAIL (IN):   6.75



Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 02:12:28 PM

awesome.  you’ve got me curious about that 8.75 sci fi now

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: overwaxed on July 26, 2023, 04:46:19 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 02:12:28 PM

awesome.  you’ve got me curious about that 8.75 sci fi now

I’ve got one - the Ryan lay horses board - skating 8.25’s now and it doesn’t see much use but I have it set up with rails and venture 6.1’s as a curb board. I love the shape - I had a much pointier quasi 8.75 before, as well as an FA, and this one falls pretty cleanly in the middle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on July 27, 2023, 05:20:40 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

Quarter Distribution is like 20 minutes away from where I live. I know one dude that works there. They get their decks from China and only print the graphics on them in that building. But I have to say the decks are good quality, I just didn't like the shapes I tried. I like BBS shapes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 01, 2023, 05:14:47 PM

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Copied from the AU sale thread.


On another note, I saw they had some new shop boards in 8.75 with 14.25 wb and info says from Spain, so they have HLC wood now, which is very interesting.  I think they measure with the concave, as they have it listed as 32.5 long, but HLC boards are usually 32.  Their other shop boards which I had bought in the past were normal length 32, listed as 32.5 as well, just in case anyone is thrown off by the long measurement for those boards.


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/ocd-keys-8-75-skateboard-deck-1


They have them in 8.0, 8.25, 8.5 and 8.75 sizes on HLC wood and some older Generator boards in 8.125 and 8.375.


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/collections/decks?pf_v_brand=OCD

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on August 02, 2023, 03:58:46 AM

Quote from: overwaxed on July 26, 2023, 04:46:19 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on July 26, 2023, 02:12:28 PM

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awesome.  you’ve got me curious about that 8.75 sci fi now

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I’ve got one - the Ryan lay horses board - skating 8.25’s now and it doesn’t see much use but I have it set up with rails and venture 6.1’s as a curb board. I love the shape - I had a much pointier quasi 8.75 before, as well as an FA, and this one falls pretty cleanly in the middle.

Yep the sci-fi 8.75 is nice, pretty straight up and down with little taper, unlike the quasi 8.75 which is ever so slightly eggish if you look them side by side and definitely skates like a smaller board. Sci fi has a wider tail than the white eagle too which is tapered slightly.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on August 02, 2023, 08:51:39 AM

At which locations around the world BBS has manufacturing, and is there a way of knowing where a particular brand's BBS decks come from? I was under the impression that they have facilities in China these days as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on August 02, 2023, 08:59:46 AM

Quote from: rikki on August 02, 2023, 08:51:39 AM

At which locations around the world BBS has manufacturing, and is there a way of knowing where a particular brand's BBS decks come from? I was under the impression that they have facilities in China these days as well.

Look out for the black and white "Made in Mexico" on the front truck mounting holes and the small holographic BBS sticker on the rear mounting holes. They still do their boards in USA, just that brands have started to split their orders between BBS and Factory X in China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 02, 2023, 09:02:08 AM

Quote from: rikki on August 02, 2023, 08:51:39 AM

At which locations around the world BBS has manufacturing, and is there a way of knowing where a particular brand's BBS decks come from? I was under the impression that they have facilities in China these days as well.

The sticker on the top will say Made in Mexico. Haven't heard about BBS being in China...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on August 02, 2023, 09:12:08 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

we do our shop boards at quarter, they’re good quality and pretty flat. the only complaint i have is that they fucked up one of the graphics, which i noticed when they sent us a photo and told them about it, they were like „these haven’t been past qc we’ll make em right” and then they proceeded to send them shits as is, with the graphic messed up. also they took a long ass time to ship this year, the boards arrived over a month overdue, last year they were quick but we just ordered blanks and screened them locally. but yeah the boards are fine.

artprint is another eu-based “manufacturer” that prints on china decks, they’re also pretty good and have more concave. i don’t know of any brands outside of poland that use them but if you can find them i think they’re also worth a try.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on August 03, 2023, 07:27:45 AM

I’ve been gawking at Zero and Toy Machine boards, but I can’t tell where there’re all from.

Zeros for example, where some has the but etching/stamp where you can just make out the “Resin7”, but others just have a little size number. Like “8.5”.


(https://i.ibb.co/DRpCW89/IMG-2680.png) (https://ibb.co/DRpCW89)

(https://i.ibb.co/hHnB80W/IMG-2677.png) (https://ibb.co/hHnB80W)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 03, 2023, 03:11:40 PM

Quote from: Creachteach on August 03, 2023, 07:27:45 AM

I’ve been gawking at Zero and Toy Machine boards, but I can’t tell where there’re all from.

Zeros for example, where some has the but etching/stamp where you can just make out the “Resin7”, but others just have a little size number. Like “8.5”.


(https://i.ibb.co/DRpCW89/IMG-2680.png) (https://ibb.co/DRpCW89)

(https://i.ibb.co/hHnB80W/IMG-2677.png) (https://ibb.co/hHnB80W)

Resin 7 is definitely Dwindle / DSM wood, very stiff and epoxy based, made in China.


The other one a little harder to determine, as quite a few woodshops have similar stamps to that.  If it is a more rounded dimple dot in between bolts, then it could be BBS, stamped with size like Baker / Birdhouse / Deathwish decks do, but that is not so common for boards outside of their own distro from Baker Boys, so it is possible, or even more likely that it could also be from somewhere else, eg China, unknown woodshop with the nail front and size markings.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: overwaxed on August 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

I just got an Alltiners Noelle for Alexis 8.125 - and it’s Clutch wood fulfilled by Chapman - same logos on the plastic as my recent Theories boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2023, 03:56:44 AM

Quote from: Frank and Fred on August 02, 2023, 09:02:08 AM

Quote from: rikki on August 02, 2023, 08:51:39 AM

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At which locations around the world BBS has manufacturing, and is there a way of knowing where a particular brand's BBS decks come from? I was under the impression that they have facilities in China these days as well.

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The sticker on the top will say Made in Mexico. Haven't heard about BBS being in China...

I am guessing that question / comment is based on the "DLX boards now made in China" thread and speculation on BBS workers going over to China to help set up the DLX woodshop there, or something like that.


Generally speaking, BBS only has the one facilty in Mexico that manufactures the boards, but Generator being their retail / shop boards / blanks arm is based in USA, so the boards made in Mexico are shipped into the USA and then printed or distributed to whoever has ordered them.  This is how some brands or individuals say and promote the "Made in USA" which is not entirely true, but when they are shipped in as stacks of blanks and then printed, shrink wrapped, etc there, I guess they can get away with it easily enough.

Also note, the top tier / main brands still have their boards all done, in their entirety at BBS in Mexico - the wood, the graphic, the sticker and shrinkwrap, etc - then shipped to where ever their individual warehouse for their own distribution.

My understanding is DLX still has this going on at BBS in Mexico, but from late 2023 to early 2024 the new woodshop in China will be making boards and shipping to the places round the world that are easier to reach from China, with USA still getting their wood from BBS in Mexico, but that might also be open to interpretation or someone with more knowledge can help as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2023, 04:03:06 AM

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In case anyone missed it, this is a good read - up to four pages now.


DLX boards now made in China thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=127113.0

Quote from: REGS on July 11, 2023, 10:25:30 PM

Debated putting this in the woodshop thread but feel like it deserves its own discussion.

The recent DLX prebook has about 70% of the boards listed as Made in China. They cost roughly the same as a pre-Covid DLX board while the BBS boards are 30-40% more expensive.

From our rep:

In a bold but completely logical move, Deluxe have set up an Asia based board manufacturer to counter the ongoing board price increases from their primary factory. These boards are significantly cheaper and are set up with Deluxe's custom shapes and molds. For the purists, favorites like the AH Classic Eagles are still made in North America.

How long until every company moves the bulk of operations to Asia?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on August 04, 2023, 08:23:39 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2023, 03:56:44 AM

I am guessing that question / comment is based on the "DLX boards now made in China" thread and speculation on BBS workers going over to China to help set up the DLX woodshop there, or something like that.


Generally speaking, BBS only has the one facilty in Mexico that manufactures the boards, but Generator being their retail / shop boards / blanks arm is based in USA, so the boards made in Mexico are shipped into the USA and then printed or distributed to whoever has ordered them.  This is how some brands or individuals say and promote the "Made in USA" which is not entirely true, but when they are shipped in as stacks of blanks and then printed, shrink wrapped, etc there, I guess they can get away with it easily enough.

Also note, the top tier / main brands still have their boards all done, in their entirety at BBS in Mexico - the wood, the graphic, the sticker and shrinkwrap, etc - then shipped to where ever their individual warehouse for their own distribution.

My understanding is DLX still has this going on at BBS in Mexico, but from late 2023 to early 2024 the new woodshop in China will be making boards and shipping to the places round the world that are easier to reach from China, with USA still getting their wood from BBS in Mexico, but that might also be open to interpretation or someone with more knowledge can help as well.

Hey thanks for the clarification. I'm in Europe and ride mostly Antihero boards, so I'm guessing part of them (apart from e.g. Classic Eagles, as noted in the DLX boards / China thread) will be made in China in the future. Although I guess it's gonna be hard to say, as I have no idea how the distribution network for DLX/BBS boards is structured in Europe.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on August 05, 2023, 05:11:57 AM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on July 27, 2023, 05:20:40 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

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Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

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Quarter Distribution is like 20 minutes away from where I live. I know one dude that works there. They get their decks from China and only print the graphics on them in that building. But I have to say the decks are good quality, I just didn't like the shapes I tried. I like BBS shapes.

I haven’t skated enough of anything yet, that I know what I like.

Quote from: roba on August 02, 2023, 09:12:08 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 03:37:18 AM

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Anybody got the lowdown on Quarter Distribution?
They say “Qualität aus Berlin” but are they really made in Germany, and not just printed there?

Supposedly their Superply is all sustainable Canadian maple held together by epoxy resin. Sounds like Resin7 by DSM.

I want to try and skate some euro-boards. And there’s a local brand on Quarter which has cool graphics/shapes, and I want to support them. They’re called Brodega.
They also have Poetic Collective, Blast Skates and Inpeddo on Quarter Distribution.

[close]

we do our shop boards at quarter, they’re good quality and pretty flat. the only complaint i have is that they fucked up one of the graphics, which i noticed when they sent us a photo and told them about it, they were like „these haven’t been past qc we’ll make em right” and then they proceeded to send them shits as is, with the graphic messed up. also they took a long ass time to ship this year, the boards arrived over a month overdue, last year they were quick but we just ordered blanks and screened them locally. but yeah the boards are fine.

artprint is another eu-based “manufacturer” that prints on china decks, they’re also pretty good and have more concave. i don’t know of any brands outside of poland that use them but if you can find them i think they’re also worth a try.

I think I have to try a few Quarter decks from Blast and Brodega, now that I’m hearing they’re flat.
Too bad they fucked you on the printing.
Thanks for your input. I’ll check out art print 😊

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 06, 2023, 05:42:19 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/skatedistribution/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu0MDzXOzLM/?img_index=1


A bit random but this popped up on the "to watch" list.


On another note, I have been seeing a few boards now from some woodshops have way fewer stained ply layers, so I am just curious if anyone else has noticed this too?

One person said each stained ply layer adds 20 to 30 cents to the price of a board, which might not be much for a few, but when you are talking a hundred thousand boards, that adds up to a lot.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 09, 2023, 07:41:34 PM

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From the Anti Blank Campaign thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126574.0

Quote from: switchfakie on July 20, 2023, 10:43:37 PM

Quote from: KidCarl on July 14, 2023, 11:10:28 AM

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Quote from: Eh on June 19, 2023, 10:54:42 AM

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Someone, please post the best place to buy blanks in bulk.

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Skatesamples.com they're from generator, but I don't know how legit, and it's like $20 shipping.

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i got the 10 pack (it comes out to $25 per board once you add shipping, so it was $250 total for me)

the boards are legit and good quality qood, top and bottom plys are stained

it might just be me, but they felt slightly heavier than the better bbs decks ( from word of mouth, these are apparently the bbs boards they sell for shop decks, so theyre slightly less quality than a standard bbs board youd get. this is consistent to what ive experienced with buying shop decks in the past, so i have no problem with it)

so far ive only skated 1 for the past week (since i just bought them) & ive had no issues

Quote from: Allen. on July 21, 2023, 07:38:08 AM

I’ve been skating them for a few months. No complaints.

I had been curious about those boards, but I hadn't actually heard of anyone with them, so thanks to both of you.

Of course, being BBS (Generator) they are boards I am familiar with and have had a number of local shop boards on the same wood, as with some other brands that use it, so didn't doubt the quality.

Some of the lesser pro brands or blank boards from BBS I have had recently seem to have a fair bit more concave than usual, not a worry, but definitely more than the usual DLX or some other brands have had in the past.


In light of all the pro brand price rises, along with an excess of wood right now, these seem a very decent option for those who can afford to stock up and get ten or more at a time.

When I first looked at the site, everything cost too much to ship to Australia (with shipping costs doubling the price for me), but for those in USA or not too far to ship within reason, it would make sense.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ridethegutter on August 20, 2023, 11:37:49 AM

Any idea what woodshop this is from?

(https://i.ibb.co/kQvshRy/IMG-1514.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r4NRZCt)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on August 20, 2023, 12:31:25 PM

^ Clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 20, 2023, 05:17:35 PM

Quote from: ridethegutter on August 20, 2023, 11:37:49 AM

Any idea what woodshop this is from?

8 C

Quote from: hiljentaa on August 20, 2023, 12:31:25 PM

^ Clutch

For sure.

I am curious if it is an older board, or newer board.

Don't recall seeing the "C" shape, but 8 would be about 8.5 or so going by their other size and shape guides.

The letter is the shape and the number is the size in that shape.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CuX8yThJnbE/?img_index=3


(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/502d49_bb37c4e02fc84a3bb4e7fd3bd5bef0b1~mv2.jpg/v1/crop/x_160,y_0,w_1309,h_1296/fill/w_883,h_874,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/Clutch2023_StandardShapes.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: arrbee on August 20, 2023, 05:35:59 PM

Less of a woodshop question and more or a shape question. Anyone have a guide to Palace shapes. I see codes listed in descriptions but no idea what they mean.

Going to England tomorrow and trying to get a deck shipped to the hotel hoping to get a fuller shape (FA/Quasi style) not sure which shape code I should be looking at.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2023, 08:00:45 PM

Quote from: arrbee on August 20, 2023, 05:35:59 PM

Less of a woodshop question and more or a shape question. Anyone have a guide to Palace shapes. I see codes listed in descriptions but no idea what they mean.

Going to England tomorrow and trying to get a deck shipped to the hotel hoping to get a fuller shape (FA/Quasi style) not sure which shape code I should be looking at.

I don't recall seeing any other info besides the season release number, currently S33 and they do seem to be fairly normal shapes for their boards (besides the  8.38 super long wheelbase) so that might be what you are seeing in places - all the same shapes, just different seasonal releases, more for their clothing lines I guess, but their hardgoods do have changes in graphics, but not shape that I am aware of.

That said, I haven't really followed much of the Palace wood side of things besides looking them up for people, all Dwindle / DSM wood, simple shapes, nothing out of the ordinary, no fuller shapes I can recall seeing in person at shops either.


This might help:


https://shop-eu.palaceskateboards.com/collections/hardware


I see from looking up the boards, some places still have Season 27, 29 and others 30, 31 and 32 for newer stock and so on, nothing different in the shapes though.


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/palace-skateboards-m123


https://www.penloe.com/search/palace


https://www.penloe.com/product/palace-skateboards-heitor-pro-s27-deck


Palace Skateboards Heitor Pro S27 Deck

Width - 8.38"

Length - 31.13"

Wheelbase - 14.84"

Nose - 6.69"

Tail 6.38"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on August 20, 2023, 08:06:09 PM

Opinions/experience with Prime Wood LA? Concave and kick steepness?

SoCal has a 7.75 blank with dimensions that sound agreeable to me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 20, 2023, 08:16:33 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on August 20, 2023, 08:06:09 PM

Opinions/experience with Prime Wood LA? Concave and kick steepness?

SoCal has a 7.75 blank with dimensions that sound agreeable to me.

I have one Prime blank in 8.5 and it seems decent, good shape, medium / mellow concave depending on your perspective, similar to a mellow BBS board.

Others have skated them and think they are good, no issues, etc.


Mine is similar to this one, for reference:

https://socalskateshop.com/Prime-Wood-LA-U5-Blank-P24-Deck-Blue-Stain-8-5x32-25.html



All of them seem to have very normal / reasonable shapes, nothing crazy, stained top and bottom, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 21, 2023, 06:12:08 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/GWlYH5F.png)

Looks like Politic is going to pick up where DOA left off and start using the South Central "E-Mold" aka "Flat as fuck" shape that DOA used to put out.  I know that shape had a cult following so figured I'd share here.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Scottboarding on August 21, 2023, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on August 21, 2023, 06:12:08 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/GWlYH5F.png)

Looks like Politic is going to pick up where DOA left off and start using the South Central "E-Mold" aka "Flat as fuck" shape that DOA used to put out.  I know that shape had a cult following so figured I'd share here.

Thank you for this! I always wanted to try a flat as fuck but could never find them in stock. Ordered an 8.25 and I’m pumped.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lamfordie on August 21, 2023, 04:31:04 PM

I see that Skate warehouse has a new set of blank board that are now $34.99. Anyone know the difference from the other blank boards that they have?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 21, 2023, 07:33:02 PM

Quote from: Scottboarding on August 21, 2023, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on August 21, 2023, 06:12:08 AM

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(https://i.imgur.com/GWlYH5F.png)

Looks like Politic is going to pick up where DOA left off and start using the South Central "E-Mold" aka "Flat as fuck" shape that DOA used to put out.  I know that shape had a cult following so figured I'd share here.

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Thank you for this! I always wanted to try a flat as fuck but could never find them in stock. Ordered an 8.25 and I’m pumped.

Hell yeah!  Be sure to give us your thoughts once you’ve had some time on it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 23, 2023, 09:16:38 PM

.

Found another small woodshop to add to the list:


https://www.instagram.com/az.laminates/


AZ Laminates™
Product/service
100% hand crafted in the USA.
DM for production runs or just one!


https://www.instagram.com/p/CeEdmoMJxeW/


Initially from a link from this account:

https://www.instagram.com/psycho_city_skateboards/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqZdS3drulr/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 28, 2023, 03:49:37 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on August 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

I just got an Alltiners Noelle for Alexis 8.125 - and it’s Clutch wood fulfilled by Chapman - same logos on the plastic as my recent Theories boards.

Updated the listing to add / change a few things as people had mentioned from the last few pages.


Interesting there are board brand woodshop swaps still going on, but I guess it is mostly Clutch / PS Stix / BBS more than anything.

Anything else anyone sees that is incorrect on the listings, or needs checking or whatever, please let me know.

Thanks!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 28, 2023, 03:55:18 PM

Quote from: lamfordie on August 21, 2023, 04:31:04 PM

I see that Skate warehouse has a new set of blank board that are now $34.99. Anyone know the difference from the other blank boards that they have?

There are now two different board listings, one $29.99 and one $34.99 so I wonder if they are also different wood / from different places.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Warehouse_Blank_Maple_Deck/descpage-SW243DK.html


Width - 8.25"
Length - 31.95"
Wheelbase - 14.25"
Traditional 7-ply construction


Nothing I can see on them that would show which woodshop they are coming from, be it stamps, dots or even concave when looking at the side pics.

Guessing more than anything that it is cheaper easily sourced bulk boards, maybe China or elsewhere, but some of the dimensions are different to anything else as well (8.75 and 9.0 decks), not that anyone couldn't make up their own dimensions and ask for that, more so in the bigger sizes, as the 8.25 looks very generic and pretty much the same standard size as everything else.


If someone gets one and then puts up some info, at least everyone else would then be better informed.


Edit:


Looking through the other listings, for the cheaper boards, the 8.0 has a pic with a board with 8.5 stamped on the back truck bolts area, so I would almost 100% believe they are from China, woodshop being Jeeping or Excel most likely as I have seen the same stamps from those woodshops in that area on the boards before.

As to the wood and concave, not what I like but not a problem for board construction and everything else - you get what you pay for there.


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=SWPNE1DK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: camel filters on August 29, 2023, 06:34:07 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 28, 2023, 03:49:37 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on August 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

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I just got an Alltiners Noelle for Alexis 8.125 - and it’s Clutch wood fulfilled by Chapman - same logos on the plastic as my recent Theories boards.

[close]

Updated the listing to add / change a few things as people had mentioned from the last few pages.


Interesting there are board brand woodshop swaps still going on, but I guess it is mostly Clutch / PS Stix / BBS more than anything.

Anything else anyone sees that is incorrect on the listings, or needs checking or whatever, please let me know.

Thanks!!

Saw at the shop the dreaded clutch dot near the top bolt holes. Very disappointing as I've had several good luck bbs alltimers.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on August 29, 2023, 08:32:44 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 28, 2023, 03:49:37 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on August 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

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I just got an Alltiners Noelle for Alexis 8.125 - and it’s Clutch wood fulfilled by Chapman - same logos on the plastic as my recent Theories boards.

[close]

Updated the listing to add / change a few things as people had mentioned from the last few pages.


Interesting there are board brand woodshop swaps still going on, but I guess it is mostly Clutch / PS Stix / BBS more than anything.

Anything else anyone sees that is incorrect on the listings, or needs checking or whatever, please let me know.

Thanks!!

Looks like the most recent Coda drop has switched from Clutch to PS Stix according to their website.
(https://i.imgur.com/HxP6Bkn.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on August 29, 2023, 09:38:40 AM

The Alltimers is out of character, but I guess they have orders to fill.  I don’t think I’d be that mad, but it’s not my preference that’s for sure….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on August 30, 2023, 03:59:17 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on July 22, 2023, 05:01:17 PM

Quote from: Ghost Face on July 22, 2023, 08:18:53 AM

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Quote from: pointandclick on July 22, 2023, 07:19:51 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on July 21, 2023, 08:43:43 PM

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Quote from: Ghost Face on July 21, 2023, 04:18:47 AM

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Somehow I've been added to HLC's stock and pricelist mailer.

They are now doing Roger so I think you can add them to the HLC manufacture.

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Thanks!


Is that everywhere, or just EU though?


DM if you have other info but better not to share with everyone.

I am curious.

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i asked on ig, they confirmed bbs still.

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Well the Roger decks are 3 euro cheaper w/s than the flip and Skate Mental on the list. No way they are selling bbs imported to Europe for that price.

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It wouldn't be the first time that a company has their main stock on one wood (USA - BBS) and a licensing deal in EU on other wood (HLC), so that could easily be possible.

For some smaller companies or with weird distribution options, this is more common, especially with EU and South America, from what I had seen in the past.


Any which way, I had Roger as BBS from 2022 and on Clutch before that 2021 or so.

Does the HLC catalog have any graphics that show as current in other shops in USA or old stock or any other easily identifiable things? eg certain runs of graphics can be shown as newer or older or more generic are often the licensed graphics.

Regarding HLC now distributing Roger, HLC rep just told me that when HLC distributes a brand, they aren't just stocking, they actually press these brand's boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on August 30, 2023, 10:43:57 AM

That's what I thought, looking at the pricing. To be cheaper than Flip and SM it must be pressed by them under license.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 30, 2023, 11:17:19 AM

Remember when HLC was sold tp that investment group and they released that press release about wanting to be the most dominant board MFG and distro in the world

Licensing deals and region exclusivity are just like any other corporation. When I worked in toys, my boss had a rule, that if we couldn't get the license or atleast North American exclusivity then there was no point in bringing in a product line.

I bet HLC is probably also working on an Asia hub as well. They already have one in Texas
https://www.skateboarding.com/trending-news/spains-hlc-distribution-factory-arrives-in-the-usa

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on August 30, 2023, 05:17:54 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on August 29, 2023, 08:32:44 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on August 28, 2023, 03:49:37 PM

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Quote from: overwaxed on August 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

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I just got an Alltiners Noelle for Alexis 8.125 - and it’s Clutch wood fulfilled by Chapman - same logos on the plastic as my recent Theories boards.

[close]

Updated the listing to add / change a few things as people had mentioned from the last few pages.


Interesting there are board brand woodshop swaps still going on, but I guess it is mostly Clutch / PS Stix / BBS more than anything.

Anything else anyone sees that is incorrect on the listings, or needs checking or whatever, please let me know.

Thanks!!

[close]

Looks like the most recent Coda drop has switched from Clutch to PS Stix according to their website.

Well spotted!

Updated now with that and others.


Thanks all for all the info / input too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on August 31, 2023, 12:39:05 AM

Quote from: TwisT on August 30, 2023, 11:17:19 AM

Remember when HLC was sold tp that investment group and they released that press release about wanting to be the most dominant board MFG and distro in the world

Licensing deals and region exclusivity are just like any other corporation. When I worked in toys, my boss had a rule, that if we couldn't get the license or atleast North American exclusivity then there was no point in bringing in a product line.

I bet HLC is probably also working on an Asia hub as well. They already have one in Texas
https://www.skateboarding.com/trending-news/spains-hlc-distribution-factory-arrives-in-the-usa

Love the skate business talk, @Woodshop's got some cool insight on how skateboarding distribution works that was cool to learn. I'm paraphrasing but distributors get the right to sell the brand in the region, so they manufacture / source blanks and screen licensed graphics on them. Explains why a brand like Sk8mafia will have different shapes and dims within each region.

Makes more sense than distributors loading stocks for 100s of each board and graphic.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on August 31, 2023, 07:00:26 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on August 31, 2023, 12:39:05 AM

Quote from: TwisT on August 30, 2023, 11:17:19 AM

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Remember when HLC was sold tp that investment group and they released that press release about wanting to be the most dominant board MFG and distro in the world

Licensing deals and region exclusivity are just like any other corporation. When I worked in toys, my boss had a rule, that if we couldn't get the license or atleast North American exclusivity then there was no point in bringing in a product line.

I bet HLC is probably also working on an Asia hub as well. They already have one in Texas
https://www.skateboarding.com/trending-news/spains-hlc-distribution-factory-arrives-in-the-usa

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Love the skate business talk, @Woodshop's got some cool insight on how skateboarding distribution works that was cool to learn. I'm paraphrasing but distributors get the right to sell the brand in the region, so they manufacture / source blanks and screen licensed graphics on them. Explains why a brand like Sk8mafia will have different shapes and dims within each region.

Makes more sense than distributors loading stocks for 100s of each board and graphic.

HLC is negotiating exclusive distribution deals worldwide for brands like Flip, SK8mafia and Plan B. I'm wondering if HLC is shipping blanks to Texas from Spain for US distribution, or is HLC Texas sourcing Blanks from Mexico (likely) for The north American market?

If they want to become the number one MFG in the world wouldn't they have to get more of their wood into the US market, so they can even be seen a viable alternative to say Clutch? Does anyone know of HLC Texas doing shop boards or local brands?

I know slap doesn't have the answers but corporate business strategies for skateboard factories is fascinating

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on August 31, 2023, 07:25:05 AM

What i know for sure is worldwide production is already made at HLC for plan B (i'm pretty sure it's the same now for Flip & Sk8mafia but i'll try to get a confirmation).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on September 06, 2023, 11:14:32 AM

You can order directly from 2hex now, but shipping makes it not cost-effective.

https://worldshop.2hex.com/shop?category=1&start=15.00&end=391.00

You can also try their space age, lightest on the market titanium magnesium hollows

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 07, 2023, 10:56:04 PM

Quote from: Candied cigarettes on September 07, 2023, 07:45:07 PM

Got this chico stix x brian lotti board in the mail today, beyond stoked on this. It’s a wall board for sure although part of me wants to skate it



(https://i.ibb.co/xhX3NhK/IMG-3626.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8MNXHMn)




(https://i.ibb.co/gtjXYq3/IMG-3624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6DnpQ9m)

Guest board on PS Stix as per info in this post, when I saw the warning sticker...



https://www.chicostix.com/products/brian-lotti-8-5-tron-guest-board


Limited Edition Brian Lotti 8.5" Guest Board for Chico Stix

Special 8.5" x 31.5” x 14.25” Shape design by Brian Lotti and Paul Schmitt




https://www.instagram.com/p/CwifJ5rPCDt/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cwm9P_Drura/




Seems like everything at Chico Stix is now PS Stix.


(https://www.chicostix.com/cdn/shop/products/image_374cb7d2-604a-48cb-8871-653d50791073.png)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on September 11, 2023, 12:57:17 PM

for people who have ridden the AH 8.5 eagle vs the 8.38-  is there a preference?  i hated the 8.5 shape, it felt slim and idk i just never adjusted properly.  but i feel like i recall people saying the 8.38 is a little fuller, and im curious if that would maybe be the better option for me

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 11, 2023, 04:06:17 PM

Quote from: shawngreg on September 11, 2023, 12:57:17 PM

for people who have ridden the AH 8.5 eagle vs the 8.38-  is there a preference?  i hated the 8.5 shape, it felt slim and idk i just never adjusted properly.  but i feel like i recall people saying the 8.38 is a little fuller, and im curious if that would maybe be the better option for me

I have had a lot of experience with both, so hopefully this doesn't end up too long, but here goes.


To start with, the DLX shapes thread has a fair bit of info on this, but exactly where in there, I couldn't say right this minute, but I have put up info there before with various shapes including these two, as well as the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb and other Full SE shapes, which I won't go into in this post.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0



As to my own view of the eagles, I definitely prefer the 8.38 to the 8.5 but I also like a longer board, longer wheelbase, so that is the main thing to start with.

On paper specs as follows:

8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (blue eagle shape, for want of a better simple name)

8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb (army green eagle shape, or maybe the most common shape more recently, also called "Dreamer" shape)


Actual measurements vary, but the main thing is the 8.5 is nowhere near 8.5 wide - more like 8.4 or even 8.3 and tapers significantly from front to back being closer to 8.25 at the back bolts, whereas the 8.38 is a hair off a real 8.5 so is actually wider and longer with the width staying true right the way through the board from front bolts to back bolts, but is also a little more pointy in the kicks than the 8.5 which is a bit more rounded up front, without saying it is squared off or anything like that.


Just to throw another shape in the mix, the more normal 8.5 DLX shape which seems to be making a comeback is definitely 8.5 wide, 32.18 / 32.2 or so long with 14.38 wheelbase and although straight through the middle, it tapers off in the kicks from bolts area, which some people don't like, even calling it a weird shape, but it still works and the kicks are a little longer than the other two boards above.

I have had quite a few of these as well, but there is something about the 14.5 wb that I prefer, even though I feel like the 8.38 is a little short in the tail for what I usually skate, transition and ramp, along with more simple street stuff, but it works well and is a bit more nimble feeling than the other 8.5 boards that are actually 8.5 wide.


Hopefully that makes sense, without being too crazy about the specific shapes.

Some people really like the blue eagle shape, but I would say that is more a smaller 8.3 sized board than an 8.5, if you really want to compare it to other boards out there, which is also why some people are not into it, if they do like a true 8.5 wide board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shawngreg on September 11, 2023, 04:30:40 PM

always helpful my man, and exactly the info i was looking for.  thank you!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: shotvx on September 23, 2023, 09:54:17 AM

Quote from: vicious cycle on May 13, 2022, 01:00:44 AM

Does anyone has some info about Censorship Skateboards ?
It's Roberto Alemañ's brand out of Spain.
I wonder where the decks are being made.
Edit: I found a shop were it says "made in Spain" so it's hlc I guess ?

Not HLC. Working with Excell, same factory as Crailtap, Tum Yeto or NHS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: cosmicgypsies on September 24, 2023, 12:20:43 AM

Anyone measured/have the dimensions of Bones flat washers?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 24, 2023, 03:58:07 PM

Quote from: cosmicgypsies on September 24, 2023, 12:20:43 AM

Anyone measured/have the dimensions of Bones flat washers?

Not sure if you meant to put this in another thread, but I am happy to answer anyway.


Bones washers, as per one I have here is just over 18 mm wide, just over 9 mm inner hole, just under 1 mm thick.

The comparable washers from hardware stores I have bought seem barely half as solid and were bending very quickly, but you might still find something similar that works well enough, if you prefer flat washers on your trucks.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

Anyone know roughly what the difference is between how PS measures their boards vs everyone else? Ex would a 32" labeled PS deck actually be closer to 31.5-31.6 if you measured it straight across?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 25, 2023, 12:04:06 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

Anyone know roughly what the difference is between how PS measures their boards vs everyone else? Ex would a 32" labeled PS deck actually be closer to 31.5-31.6 if you measured it straight across?

Edit: apologies. I think you were asking for a conversion rate. I’m. It totally sure but seems like maybe a 1/4-1/2” different depending on the deck.

PS measures width and wheelbase the same as everyone. For length, they measure with a soft tape measure whereas most measure straight across in the air from tip to tip. So PS length measurements are always a bit longer than what they would be for other brands, even if the decks are the same length.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 25, 2023, 04:04:18 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 25, 2023, 12:04:06 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

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Anyone know roughly what the difference is between how PS measures their boards vs everyone else? Ex would a 32" labeled PS deck actually be closer to 31.5-31.6 if you measured it straight across?

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Edit: apologies. I think you were asking for a conversion rate. I’m. It totally sure but seems like maybe a 1/4-1/2” different depending on the deck.

PS measures width and wheelbase the same as everyone. For length, they measure with a soft tape measure whereas most measure straight across in the air from tip to tip. So PS length measurements are always a bit longer than what they would be for other brands, even if the decks are the same length.

Yes that is correct.


Most woodshops / brands measure from tip to tip straight across, whereas PS measure with the concave, so a comparable board will be 32.2 long on the PS measurement but closer to 31.8 with the straight across measurement, when checking a few boards I had here.

Other sizes are more like this:

PS 31.5 = 31.2 tip (Habitat 7.8" deck)

PS 32 = 31.7 tip (Element 8.1" deck)

PS 32.25 = 31.85 / 31.88 (Element 8.375 and Alien Workshop 8.5 decks)

PS 32.5 = 32.2 (Quasi 8.75 deck)


Note even some stated measurements were not quite accurate, one laser engraved on the board actually had different measurements, but it was shorter in both length and wheelbase, but it was an older board too.


Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 09:06:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 25, 2023, 04:04:18 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 25, 2023, 12:04:06 PM

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Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

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Anyone know roughly what the difference is between how PS measures their boards vs everyone else? Ex would a 32" labeled PS deck actually be closer to 31.5-31.6 if you measured it straight across?

[close]

Edit: apologies. I think you were asking for a conversion rate. I’m. It totally sure but seems like maybe a 1/4-1/2” different depending on the deck.

PS measures width and wheelbase the same as everyone. For length, they measure with a soft tape measure whereas most measure straight across in the air from tip to tip. So PS length measurements are always a bit longer than what they would be for other brands, even if the decks are the same length.

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Yes that is correct.


Most woodshops / brands measure from tip to tip straight across, whereas PS measure with the concave, so a comparable board will be 32.2 long on the PS measurement but closer to 31.8 with the straight across measurement, when checking a few boards I had here.

Other sizes are more like this:

PS 31.5 = 31.2 tip (Habitat 7.8" deck)

PS 32 = 31.7 tip (Element 8.1" deck)

PS 32.25 = 31.85 / 31.88 (Element 8.375 and Alien Workshop 8.5 decks)

PS 32.5 = 32.2 (Quasi 8.75 deck)


Note even some stated measurements were not quite accurate, one laser engraved on the board actually had different measurements, but it was shorter in both length and wheelbase, but it was an older board too.


Hope that helps.

Very helpful thank you both!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: manysnakes on September 26, 2023, 03:37:04 PM

Watson Laminates closing?

(https://i.ibb.co/zG8Qt7h/IMG-6549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG8Qt7h)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on September 26, 2023, 03:41:55 PM

Quote from: manysnakes on September 26, 2023, 03:37:04 PM

Watson Laminates closing?

(https://i.ibb.co/zG8Qt7h/IMG-6549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG8Qt7h)

Wow!

From 1975 to 2023...


I wonder how much the redistribution of boards from China, compared to making their own boards, had anything to do with it.

They had both going on for a while, I think I read but the increasing costs of making boards there was putting them in a difficult position, compared to just buying in boards from elsewhere, be it Mexico, China or where ever.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Frank and Fred on September 26, 2023, 03:57:31 PM

Yeah, SMA used to use Watson and has recently turned over manufacturing to Madrid. New Natas decks coming soon.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GBLange on September 27, 2023, 05:59:13 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 09:06:05 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on September 25, 2023, 04:04:18 PM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 25, 2023, 12:04:06 PM

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Quote from: FatGuy92 on September 25, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

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Anyone know roughly what the difference is between how PS measures their boards vs everyone else? Ex would a 32" labeled PS deck actually be closer to 31.5-31.6 if you measured it straight across?

[close]

Edit: apologies. I think you were asking for a conversion rate. I’m. It totally sure but seems like maybe a 1/4-1/2” different depending on the deck.

PS measures width and wheelbase the same as everyone. For length, they measure with a soft tape measure whereas most measure straight across in the air from tip to tip. So PS length measurements are always a bit longer than what they would be for other brands, even if the decks are the same length.

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Yes that is correct.


Most woodshops / brands measure from tip to tip straight across, whereas PS measure with the concave, so a comparable board will be 32.2 long on the PS measurement but closer to 31.8 with the straight across measurement, when checking a few boards I had here.

Other sizes are more like this:

PS 31.5 = 31.2 tip (Habitat 7.8" deck)

PS 32 = 31.7 tip (Element 8.1" deck)

PS 32.25 = 31.85 / 31.88 (Element 8.375 and Alien Workshop 8.5 decks)

PS 32.5 = 32.2 (Quasi 8.75 deck)


Note even some stated measurements were not quite accurate, one laser engraved on the board actually had different measurements, but it was shorter in both length and wheelbase, but it was an older board too.


Hope that helps.

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Very helpful thank you both!

So PSstix measures by the volume of the board, same as  the width. Makes sense

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on September 28, 2023, 04:16:10 AM

Interesting that Primitive makes boards in Mexico, China and USA.
We know that Mexico= BBS, China no clue but the one I'm skating now is doing pretty damn good and what about USA?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 28, 2023, 04:13:45 PM

Quote from: moonordie on September 28, 2023, 04:16:10 AM

Interesting that Primitive makes boards in Mexico, China and USA.
We know that Mexico= BBS, China no clue but the one I'm skating now is doing pretty damn good and what about USA?

I think that was a limited run and there wasn't a repeat on that lot, but they definitely still have the BBS boards from Mexico and the Excel or similar from China now.

People had talked about it on here, often with some dislike for the wood, so I will leave it at that and not go into it, especially as I never saw them and don't know any more about it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 29, 2023, 07:14:13 AM

I had a look at a Limosine 8.25 deck and I really like the sound of those specs. Guessing Limosine uses BBS decks. Is there any other company that uses that exact shape? Limosine is kinda hard to get and expensive here in Germany.

WIDTH:                8.25
LENGTH:             31.82
WHEELBASE:     14.13
NOSE:                   6.9
TAIL:                     6.56

I copied the specs from Tactics, so I am not too sure how accurate they are. But if they are like Tactics say, the sound pretty great. I put a link here.
https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck (https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck)

Magenta decks are kinda similar from the specs and I really like the 8.25 of them.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Deadringer on September 29, 2023, 12:00:41 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on September 29, 2023, 07:14:13 AM

I had a look at a Limosine 8.25 deck and I really like the sound of those specs. Guessing Limosine uses BBS decks. Is there any other company that uses that exact shape? Limosine is kinda hard to get and expensive here in Germany.

WIDTH:                8.25
LENGTH:             31.82
WHEELBASE:     14.13
NOSE:                   6.9
TAIL:                     6.56

I copied the specs from Tactics, so I am not too sure how accurate they are. But if they are like Tactics say, the sound pretty great. I put a link here.
https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck (https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck)

Magenta decks are kinda similar from the specs and I really like the 8.25 of them.

Slam City in the UK have loads of Limo decks and delivery is pretty cheap into Europe.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 29, 2023, 02:06:27 PM

Saw a lot of the new Quasi drop in person today. Nothing notable. Still using both BBS and PS. One minor detail to report is that the team boards are now BBS. They have always been PS. I’ve gotten the 8.75 every drop over the last couple years and it’s always been PS. Will be interesting to ride the BBS version and compare!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on September 30, 2023, 07:54:15 AM

Quote from: Deadringer on September 29, 2023, 12:00:41 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on September 29, 2023, 07:14:13 AM

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I had a look at a Limosine 8.25 deck and I really like the sound of those specs. Guessing Limosine uses BBS decks. Is there any other company that uses that exact shape? Limosine is kinda hard to get and expensive here in Germany.

WIDTH:                8.25
LENGTH:             31.82
WHEELBASE:     14.13
NOSE:                   6.9
TAIL:                     6.56

I copied the specs from Tactics, so I am not too sure how accurate they are. But if they are like Tactics say, the sound pretty great. I put a link here.
https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck (https://www.tactics.com/limosine/snake-pit-825-slick-skateboard-deck)

Magenta decks are kinda similar from the specs and I really like the 8.25 of them.

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Slam City in the UK have loads of Limo decks and delivery is pretty cheap into Europe.

UK being outside the EU nowadays means that ordering from there results in import taxes, sadly.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on September 30, 2023, 12:44:28 PM

Cross post from the Quasi thread but I thought it was relevant since it involves wood shops.

+++

First measurement is the BBS Quasi 8.75 and the second is the same model but the PS version from the last drop. The BBS board kicks are definitely steeper, but my sample size is too small to make any claims. Honestly both feel about the same, but I just hit some curbs and a DIY.

(https://i.ibb.co/S0jPhKb/IMG-1701.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dGjk435/IMG-1702.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/NFWMrfj/IMG-1703.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sPb6BJ4/IMG-1704.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Shuh on October 01, 2023, 02:33:23 AM

Hey i dunno if this has been asked is DLX price point worth it or just get some DLX promodels that's on sale

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 01, 2023, 03:22:22 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 30, 2023, 12:44:28 PM

Cross post from the Quasi thread but I thought it was relevant since it involves wood shops.

+++

First measurement is the BBS Quasi 8.75 and the second is the same model but the PS version from the last drop. The BBS board kicks are definitely steeper, but my sample size is too small to make any claims. Honestly both feel about the same, but I just hit some curbs and a DIY.

(https://i.ibb.co/S0jPhKb/IMG-1701.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dGjk435/IMG-1702.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/NFWMrfj/IMG-1703.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sPb6BJ4/IMG-1704.jpg)

No sample size error there dude, it's long been established that BBS kicks are some of the steepest out there. I've even seen some a fair bit steeper than yours. There's a reason the old dudes like me will dig through a pile of dlx boards looking for the IVs...the only way I can skate them is if they're bottom of the stack and even then I usually don't like them until they flatten out a little.

PS shapes on the other hand tend to have a mellow tail and steepish nose, but they have more variation in their molds...there's the toy machine mellow which is just a plank with a hint of kicks all the way up to the old FA mold and some of the original wknd ones that were steep as fuck. I think snack might still run the steep and square FA shape but it's been a minute since I've seen one to compare them.

Just generally speaking bbs is steep and stiff, PS is mellow and springy. Which one you prefer typically depends on the type of skating you do.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 01, 2023, 08:54:40 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 01, 2023, 03:22:22 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 30, 2023, 12:44:28 PM

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Cross post from the Quasi thread but I thought it was relevant since it involves wood shops.

+++

First measurement is the BBS Quasi 8.75 and the second is the same model but the PS version from the last drop. The BBS board kicks are definitely steeper, but my sample size is too small to make any claims. Honestly both feel about the same, but I just hit some curbs and a DIY.

(https://i.ibb.co/S0jPhKb/IMG-1701.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dGjk435/IMG-1702.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/NFWMrfj/IMG-1703.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sPb6BJ4/IMG-1704.jpg)

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No sample size error there dude, it's long been established that BBS kicks are some of the steepest out there. I've even seen some a fair bit steeper than yours. There's a reason the old dudes like me will dig through a pile of dlx boards looking for the IVs...the only way I can skate them is if they're bottom of the stack and even then I usually don't like them until they flatten out a little.

PS shapes on the other hand tend to have a mellow tail and steepish nose, but they have more variation in their molds...there's the toy machine mellow which is just a plank with a hint of kicks all the way up to the old FA mold and some of the original wknd ones that were steep as fuck. I think snack might still run the steep and square FA shape but it's been a minute since I've seen one to compare them.

Just generally speaking bbs is steep and stiff, PS is mellow and springy. Which one you prefer typically depends on the type of skating you do.

i appreciate your thoughts on this stuff.


i like dlx and am hopeful that the chinese produced boards mellow.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 01, 2023, 09:04:09 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 01, 2023, 03:22:22 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on September 30, 2023, 12:44:28 PM

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Cross post from the Quasi thread but I thought it was relevant since it involves wood shops.

+++

First measurement is the BBS Quasi 8.75 and the second is the same model but the PS version from the last drop. The BBS board kicks are definitely steeper, but my sample size is too small to make any claims. Honestly both feel about the same, but I just hit some curbs and a DIY.

(https://i.ibb.co/S0jPhKb/IMG-1701.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/dGjk435/IMG-1702.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/NFWMrfj/IMG-1703.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/sPb6BJ4/IMG-1704.jpg)

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No sample size error there dude, it's long been established that BBS kicks are some of the steepest out there. I've even seen some a fair bit steeper than yours. There's a reason the old dudes like me will dig through a pile of dlx boards looking for the IVs...the only way I can skate them is if they're bottom of the stack and even then I usually don't like them until they flatten out a little.

PS shapes on the other hand tend to have a mellow tail and steepish nose, but they have more variation in their molds...there's the toy machine mellow which is just a plank with a hint of kicks all the way up to the old FA mold and some of the original wknd ones that were steep as fuck. I think snack might still run the steep and square FA shape but it's been a minute since I've seen one to compare them.

Just generally speaking bbs is steep and stiff, PS is mellow and springy. Which one you prefer typically depends on the type of skating you do.

Totally agree with everything you said. That's been my experience as well.

I was mostly curious because Quasi only makes one version of the 8.75" and I wanted to see the variance. But, I also wanted to acknowledge that it could have also been a difference between a I and a IV in the stack. But I since Quasi doesn't have BBS mark it's board the way DLX does, it's impossible to tell.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 01, 2023, 04:15:55 PM

Quote from: Shuh on October 01, 2023, 02:33:23 AM

Hey i dunno if this has been asked is DLX price point worth it or just get some DLX promodels that's on sale

A lot of info is out there, but it is often harder to find unless you have the right words, specifically no gap between price and point, more so for things posted, but the DLX thread also has some more info I put up, maybe more so than what I had posted in a woodshop thread before, or at least that is what came up from a search.

DLX Thread link to post here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3844087;topicseen#msg3844087


* Thought it best not to repost the whole thing, but at least everything is there.


Simply speaking though, any pricepoint product is a step down from the pro boards, so if you never break boards and just retire them from old age or when you are sick of them, you shouldn't have any problems, but if you may have a few heavy landings or tend to break boards more frequently, then a pricepoint board can be done in minutes, as per a few I have seen from people over the years.

I still have a few going without issue, funnily enough, but I can feel how flexy they are now, compared to any other DLX pro wood board, which is stiffer and lasts longer, by comparison.


Hope that helps and check that link to the DLX thread for a full run down.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 02, 2023, 07:35:10 AM

Anyone ride the Theories decks since they have been on Clutch?  Trying to figure out how the shape is.  Are they mellow?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 02, 2023, 08:05:29 AM

decided to make a list of brands that I actually give a shit about and delete the rest.

Wanted to see if anyone can clarify a few things:
1. are all AWS / habitat boards by BBS now?
2. are all Alltimers boards by BBS now?
3. Birdhouse?
4.What is the deal with Foundation and Toy Machine?  says Pro Boards PS Stix but they also use BBS?
5. are King and Violet really done by both PS Stix and BBS? First I have heard of this
6. Are Tired + skate menetal done by both still?

I deleted stuff like Hockey from PS STix because it has been so long since they were on PS anyway and seems like they are not going back. so trying to make the list more clear for normal human beings. If there is anything people know that PS or BBS is not making any more please let me know!

Quote from: Woodshop on January 29, 2022, 02:07:33 AM

BBS(bareback/generator):

Alien Workshop*
Alltimers*
Antihero
April
Atlantic Drift
Baker
Birdhouse*
Black Label
Deathwish
DGK*
Doom Sayers*
Foundation*
Fucking Awesome
Frog*
Grimple Stix (Antihero)
GX1000* (Still Also uses PS Stix)
Habitat*
Heroin
Hockey*
Huf*
Isle*
King* 2023
Krooked
Limosine
Magenta
Metal Skateboards
Pass-Port
Polar
Primitive*
Quasi* (still also uses PS Stix)
Real
Sci Fi Fantasy
Sk8Mafia*
Skate Mental*
Supreme*
There
Tired*
Toy Machine*
Uma Landsleds*
Violet*
Welcome*
Zero*


P.S. Stix:
Braille
Chico Stix* 2023
Disorder*
Element*
Flip* (US)
Foundation* (pro models)
GX1000*
King*
Plan B* (USA) -2020
Quasi* 2022+
Skate Mental*
Thank You* -2020
Tired*
Toy Machine* 2022 (Pro boards)
Violet*
Welcome* (USA) -2020
WKND
Worble*

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 02, 2023, 08:25:07 AM

Quote from: Thebird on October 02, 2023, 07:35:10 AM

Anyone ride the Theories decks since they have been on Clutch?  Trying to figure out how the shape is.  Are they mellow?

I have the same question. Are all Theories, Traffic and Hopps deck not from BBS anymore?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 09:01:22 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 02, 2023, 08:05:29 AM

decided to make a list of brands that I actually give a shit about and delete the rest.

1. are all AWS / habitat boards by BBS now?
2. are all Alltimers boards by BBS now?

AWS / Habitat use a combination of BBS and China for decks, depending on where the distributor / shops place their orders. This applies to both their team and pro model decks. All of them have laser engraved top markings, BBS ones come with their signature black / white and hologram sticker., China ones have a silver foil sticker on the graphic.

I've ridden both BBS and the China decks for a while and they feel identical. The BBS ones have a slightly fuller nose / tail, but you wouldn't be able to tell unless you were really looking out for it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 09:14:57 AM

that's cool to see you see no difference, sorry for the dumb question but where in China are they done?  Dailan? 

My advice Rawb would be look/ask for the top sticker....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on October 02, 2023, 09:53:15 AM

Quote from: Thebird on October 02, 2023, 07:35:10 AM

Anyone ride the Theories decks since they have been on Clutch?  Trying to figure out how the shape is.  Are they mellow?

Think it varies by drop. They’re pretty good at responding on in their DMs if you ask where a deck is from.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2022 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 02, 2023, 03:41:57 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 02, 2023, 08:05:29 AM

decided to make a list of brands that I actually give a shit about and delete the rest.

Wanted to see if anyone can clarify a few things:
1. are all AWS / habitat boards by BBS now?
2. are all Alltimers boards by BBS now?
3. Birdhouse?
4.What is the deal with Foundation and Toy Machine?  says Pro Boards PS Stix but they also use BBS?
5. are King and Violet really done by both PS Stix and BBS? First I have heard of this
6. Are Tired + skate menetal done by both still?

I deleted stuff like Hockey from PS STix because it has been so long since they were on PS anyway and seems like they are not going back. so trying to make the list more clear for normal human beings. If there is anything people know that PS or BBS is not making any more please let me know!

The hardest thing with even the last 40 pages is all of this is down to people providing information about boards they have bought, way more so than any brands helping with information about their woodshop changes.  Sure some do provide info and are helpful, but others even reply with some cryptic crap and don't actually seem like they want to help at all - not naming names, because after all this is an open forum, but the interesting thing is there had been messages in the past re good and bad responses to the list from various people, some wanting their brands taken off the list entirely, others wanting to correct information provided that had been posted, etc.

As to the questions, this is the best of my knowledge right now:

1. (as rock lobster said) AWS / Habitat use both BBS and China woodshop (unknown) depending on runs or where in the world, or even pricepoint boards (China) and pro boards (BBS) from what I have seen here.

2. Alltimers were on BBS but recently people had said they had changed again, now Clutch (again) so you would need to check with the shop before you buy.

3. Birdhouse - similar to AWS / question 1 answer, but they definitely have the same graphics on both BBS and China wood here, which makes it confusing for some people - cheaper board is China (unknown woodshop) and more expensive board is BBS.

4. Foundation / Toy Machine have been here and there with a lot of things.  From checking top pics of boards that shops post, it still seemed like they were on both but maybe more so PS Stix in recent drops.  Again it would be a check and see.  They are all still on cheap China (woodshop unknown) here in AU but other parts of the world are very different.

5. King / Violet are a couple of curious ones.  Not a lot of boards from either, but definitely some with PS Stix markings on top, but also others saying there were some BBS boards too, so again it is down to maybe who rides what on the teams, like Quasi / GX1000 in that some riders prefer PS Stix and some BBS so they have both woodshops on the go.

6. I haven't seen or heard anything from either recently, Tired / Skate Mental being on PS Stix, then on Clutch I think for a bit, then just looking at a few places, Tactics has Tired boards with BBS sticker placement.

https://www.tactics.com/tired/workstation-925-wanderer-shape-skateboard-deck



I guess bottom line is people still need to keep this updated with their boards they have bought and what woodshop they are on, if known, or at the very least, pics of the boards so it is easier to work out what they are / where they are from.

Anything and everything helps, but I do often use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and quite a few other shops as a rough guide when they have top pics of the boards, more so than just dimensions or only the graphic pic shown.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 02, 2023, 04:30:12 PM

true lots of gibberish in all of it. boards have kind of been made everywhere, for the last few years.

i would love to buy a toy machine, but. the chances of a shop near me carrying an 8” toy machine, in this year of 2023, that is also made by ps stix/flat….i mean that is a tall order.
and i’d rather just ride some 2 year old girl board from stack of used stuff, then ride a clutch/bbs/etc board.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 06:28:56 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 09:14:57 AM

that's cool to see you see no difference, sorry for the dumb question but where in China are they done?  Dailan? 

My advice Rawb would be look/ask for the top sticker....

Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

For China they use Ex-China Hardgoods Chop Chop, not sure if it's the same one DSM used but the silver sticker mentions epoxy though they don't feel painfully stiff like a DSM deck (Enjoi, Blind, Almost).

I'll snap some photos and put them up on Imgur when I get home tonight.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 02, 2023, 07:12:00 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 06:28:56 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 09:14:57 AM

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that's cool to see you see no difference, sorry for the dumb question but where in China are they done?  Dailan? 

My advice Rawb would be look/ask for the top sticker....

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Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

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Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

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For China they use Ex-China Hardgoods Chop Chop, not sure if it's the same one DSM used but the silver sticker mentions epoxy though they don't feel painfully stiff like a DSM deck (Enjoi, Blind, Almost).

I'll snap some photos and put them up on Imgur when I get home tonight.

Are they the same concave as BBS though?

Everything I have had from China has had either a Dwindle like concave, or a more generic almost flat feeling concave, as in the boards still have some side to side concave, but the kicks are very flat faced, so not spoon shaped at all like BBS boards.

Curious to know as I recall some others were trying to copy the BBS spoon like concave but just couldn't get it right.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 07:23:54 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 02, 2023, 07:12:00 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 06:28:56 PM

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Quote from: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 09:14:57 AM

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that's cool to see you see no difference, sorry for the dumb question but where in China are they done?  Dailan? 

My advice Rawb would be look/ask for the top sticker....

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Quote from: rocklobster on May 30, 2023, 07:48:44 PM

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Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

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For China they use Ex-China Hardgoods Chop Chop, not sure if it's the same one DSM used but the silver sticker mentions epoxy though they don't feel painfully stiff like a DSM deck (Enjoi, Blind, Almost).

I'll snap some photos and put them up on Imgur when I get home tonight.

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Are they the same concave as BBS though?

Everything I have had from China has had either a Dwindle like concave, or a more generic almost flat feeling concave, as in the boards still have some side to side concave, but the kicks are very flat faced, so not spoon shaped at all like BBS boards.

Curious to know as I recall some others were trying to copy the BBS spoon like concave but just couldn't get it right.

I'd say they are 95% similar in concave, 100% similar for dimensions. A friend of mine rode both and said the kicks on the China decks were slightly more tapered but not game changing. I take his word for it since he skates much harder, is many levels above my skill and only rides the Habitat / AWS twin without switching up the rest of his gear.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2023, 08:58:10 AM

Alien Workshop 8.38 Kaos Twin
(https://i.imgur.com/tLTylt1l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dEKs3l3l.jpg)

Habitat 8.38 Mosaic Twin - no laser engraved top markings but I've ridden a Suciu 8.38 Twin with the Habitat logo lasered on the "front" truck mounting holes
(https://i.imgur.com/7AQ57Bnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E91nMXZl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OhQne7sl.jpg)

Will be interesting to see the latest drop of twins for the holiday season.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 04, 2023, 05:36:32 AM

Hey pals, I found these decks and wanted to know if anyone on here might have experiences with them?

https://www.havoc-distribution.com/b2b/skateboard/blank-decks/bold-laminates/2368/bold-sp-blank-skateboard-deck-low?c=687 (https://www.havoc-distribution.com/b2b/skateboard/blank-decks/bold-laminates/2368/bold-sp-blank-skateboard-deck-low?c=687)

The description sounds as usual. Made in China where a lot of top brands get their decks from. Single pressed, epoxy resin, 3 colored layers of wood. Top, bottom and middle. The specs for the 8.25 sound good although none of the specs that I recall from Made in China AWS or Girl decks for example. So maybe another woodshop from China. They offer low, medium and high concave which is cool. Maybe I will order one for my homie.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 04, 2023, 07:08:00 AM

Honestly I cant stand these brands that keep switching shops and thats why I just stayed away from them for time. but i suppose they are being told sometimes "hey you wont get your boards for x time, sorry" and they need to get boards. they have no choice.

When I show people my list I am going to have a disclaimer for these brands that in my opinion they are just known to jump ship and they get their boards made all over the place so be very careful.

Thanks so much for your help shredders

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 04, 2023, 07:20:16 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 04, 2023, 07:08:00 AM

Honestly I cant stand these brands that keep switching shops and thats why I just stayed away from them for time. but i suppose they are being told sometimes "hey you wont get your boards for x time, sorry" and they need to get boards. they have no choice.

When I show people my list I am going to have a disclaimer for these brands that in my opinion they are just known to jump ship and they get their boards made all over the place so be very careful.

Thanks so much for your help shredders

It has definitely stopped me from buying some brands now.

Where a brand used to be only BBS, now if there is a chance it is not, I am not willing to take that risk unless I can see it or have it in my hands to know what it is and what the concave is like.


I guess that could be good if you have some decent shops around you, or access to a good supply of boards, but for anyone else with minimal face to face options, I don't like my chances with a lucky dip type of deal.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on October 04, 2023, 09:59:07 AM

Yeah we all know the correct answer is to go into a shop and eyeball them…..that’s super good info rocklobster, thanks.  It’s interesting to hear the manufacturing is levelling up. 

I have a feeling the industry all scrambled to manufacture so that’s why it was varied……and what we are seeing now is too much supply not enough demand plus a recession….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on October 05, 2023, 04:05:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iA9FTFhug0
I have tried sour and sk8 mafia and i liked them, but I wish they make 14 wb decks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 05, 2023, 07:16:37 AM

Anyone bought a Zero deck recently? Browsed the shop and it looks like they are back to DSM / Resin-7, this was for the Anatomy Angel, Sweet Leaf and Floral Bold.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: YMCMB on October 05, 2023, 12:37:08 PM

Quote from: El Freegano on October 05, 2023, 04:05:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iA9FTFhug0
I have tried sour and sk8 mafia and i liked them, but I wish they make 14 wb decks.

From what I've seen they made some 14 and 14.1 no?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: El Freegano on October 05, 2023, 12:51:13 PM

I have seen only 14.2 of most of the brands using hlc. Their catalog and shape guide has a couple of shapes but all are with 14.2 wb. This week i checked the webpage of one new spanish brand (PLAYER) that uses HLC and they have written they have 14 wb. I wrote  them on instagram to ask about this, but there is no answer yet.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 05, 2023, 04:47:56 PM

Quote from: El Freegano on October 05, 2023, 12:51:13 PM

I have seen only 14.2 of most of the brands using hlc. Their catalog and shape guide has a couple of shapes but all are with 14.2 wb. This week i checked the webpage of one new spanish brand (PLAYER) that uses HLC and they have written they have 14 wb. I wrote  them on instagram to ask about this, but there is no answer yet.

i’d happily skate one of their sub 8” sizes, with the 14.2 wb. not sure who has those in the usa, but the 7.87 and 7.75, 7.5, 7.6….etc, all look great. nice short tail, nose less than 7”. great.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 05, 2023, 09:11:41 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 05, 2023, 07:16:37 AM

Anyone bought a Zero deck recently? Browsed the shop and it looks like they are back to DSM / Resin-7, this was for the Anatomy Angel, Sweet Leaf and Floral Bold.

Bought two last week, an 8.0 Summers and an 8.25 Cole, both were BBS.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 06, 2023, 01:47:15 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 04, 2023, 07:08:00 AM

Honestly I cant stand these brands that keep switching shops and thats why I just stayed away from them for time. but i suppose they are being told sometimes "hey you wont get your boards for x time, sorry" and they need to get boards. they have no choice.

When I show people my list I am going to have a disclaimer for these brands that in my opinion they are just known to jump ship and they get their boards made all over the place so be very careful.

Thanks so much for your help shredders

It's a pandemic thing. Prior to that brands mostly plopped down at a woodshop and stayed there. Then the pandemic and stimulus happened and the industry got hit with soaring demand and a massive manufacturing disruption at the same time. Companies just go wherever they can get boards now, and you can't really blame them for that. Most small companies can't afford to not have wood on the shelves at all times.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on October 06, 2023, 06:23:20 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 06, 2023, 01:47:15 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 04, 2023, 07:08:00 AM

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Honestly I cant stand these brands that keep switching shops and thats why I just stayed away from them for time. but i suppose they are being told sometimes "hey you wont get your boards for x time, sorry" and they need to get boards. they have no choice.

When I show people my list I am going to have a disclaimer for these brands that in my opinion they are just known to jump ship and they get their boards made all over the place so be very careful.

Thanks so much for your help shredders

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It's a pandemic thing. Prior to that brands mostly plopped down at a woodshop and stayed there. Then the pandemic and stimulus happened and the industry got hit with soaring demand and a massive manufacturing disruption at the same time. Companies just go wherever they can get boards now, and you can't really blame them for that. Most small companies can't afford to not have wood on the shelves at all times.

I think also brands realized that skaters, don't know and don't care where their boards come from.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 06, 2023, 03:48:43 PM

Quote from: Thebird on October 05, 2023, 09:11:41 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 05, 2023, 07:16:37 AM

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Anyone bought a Zero deck recently? Browsed the shop and it looks like they are back to DSM / Resin-7, this was for the Anatomy Angel, Sweet Leaf and Floral Bold.

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Bought two last week, an 8.0 Summers and an 8.25 Cole, both were BBS.

So USA is still BBS.

AU seems to be on unknown wood from China still.

Asia might be more Dwindle / something else?


I don't think that has changed since last checking, but any other info / changes that need to be made, I can fix the listings.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on October 07, 2023, 06:02:41 AM

@Sativa Lung or @Mbrimson88 do either of you know which decks Sumco is having BBS make, or is it completely random due to forces at play with small brands like them?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 07, 2023, 09:32:11 PM

Quote from: Urtripping on October 07, 2023, 06:02:41 AM

@Sativa Lung or @Mbrimson88 do either of you know which decks Sumco is having BBS make, or is it completely random due to forces at play with small brands like them?

No idea, even after looking them up, but I also would never really see any around to know, as they don't have much of a presence in AU that I have seen.


https://scumcoandsons.com/

Pics of some of the boards in the online store show a bigger single number on top between front bolts which is Control wood, so they might have just kept going only with Control for this lot.  This one:

https://scumcoandsons.com/products/brian-downey-sound-bwoy


Spiral paint was a feature of Pennswood boards a while back, but I guess that is something that someone else could copy, or even do on different boards in the same location.

I hadn't asked them via Instagram or anything, so that might be a good option.  Seem to recall someone had talked to them before and they were good with info.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw8p781r1dL/?img_index=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 08, 2023, 08:41:54 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on October 07, 2023, 06:02:41 AM

@Sativa Lung or @Mbrimson88 do either of you know which decks Sumco is having BBS make, or is it completely random due to forces at play with small brands like them?

Nick was just getting wood wherever he could for a while but he hasn't used BBS for a couple runs now. There's still leftover easy riders and KT Simpsons boards out there if you want one but almost everything lately has been control and I think he's still running the logos at least through pennswood as well. If you see an older one you like and can't tell what it is from the pics just @ me again and I'll tell you, but anything that's showed up in a shop in the 6 months or so and isn't a logo deck is probably control.


As to the why - PS stix fucked him around pretty bad during the pandemic shortage and I don't know if he snuck his graphics into someone else's order or just got a small order in but the BBS run wasn't a lot of boards. I think it was only like 3-4 graphics and kind of a test run. If I had to guess he's just more comfortable dealing with the guys he knows and can pick up the phone and explain his crazy ideas to. Control has apparently been super reliable over the years and pennswood is pretty local to us and has been pressing his boards for years but is notoriously unreliable so a combination of the two is the best way to keep wood on shelves. This was all before BBS started taking new accounts and had enough spare to set up a site to sell blanks d2c, so maybe he'll go back to them for the next one. I haven't talked to him for a long time and I get to radio far less than Id like to but next time I see him I'll ask what's up.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on October 08, 2023, 09:50:30 AM

@Sativa Lung @Mbrimson88 thanks gents, you two are great!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 08, 2023, 09:57:36 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 08, 2023, 08:41:54 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on October 07, 2023, 06:02:41 AM

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@Sativa Lung or @Mbrimson88 do either of you know which decks Sumco is having BBS make, or is it completely random due to forces at play with small brands like them?

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Nick was just getting wood wherever he could for a while but he hasn't used BBS for a couple runs now. There's still leftover easy riders and KT Simpsons boards out there if you want one but almost everything lately has been control and I think he's still running the logos at least through pennswood as well. If you see an older one you like and can't tell what it is from the pics just @ me again and I'll tell you, but anything that's showed up in a shop in the 6 months or so and isn't a logo deck is probably control.


As to the why - PS stix fucked him around pretty bad during the pandemic shortage and I don't know if he snuck his graphics into someone else's order or just got a small order in but the BBS run wasn't a lot of boards. I think it was only like 3-4 graphics and kind of a test run. If I had to guess he's just more comfortable dealing with the guys he knows and can pick up the phone and explain his crazy ideas to. Control has apparently been super reliable over the years and pennswood is pretty local to us and has been pressing his boards for years but is notoriously unreliable so a combination of the two is the best way to keep wood on shelves. This was all before BBS started taking new accounts and had enough spare to set up a site to sell blanks d2c, so maybe he'll go back to them for the next one. I haven't talked to him for a long time and I get to radio far less than Id like to but next time I see him I'll ask what's up.

i like control. there, i said it. mellow boards. @global moderator made some boards with them and they were sick.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 08, 2023, 10:41:32 AM

the only reason i am not a big fan of those flat control boards is cause i like to skate my boards til they are really beat up and i find the kicks flatten out like crazy over time so i prefer them to start as steep as possible. the construction on them is very good imo i used to skate them a lot when i was stair jumping and got a lot of life out of them tossing them this way and that into the floor. i skate a lot different now so the change in board makes sense.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 08, 2023, 01:32:29 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 08, 2023, 10:41:32 AM

the only reason i am not a big fan of those flat control boards is cause i like to skate my boards til they are really beat up and i find the kicks flatten out like crazy over time so i prefer them to start as steep as possible. the construction on them is very good imo i used to skate them a lot when i was stair jumping and got a lot of life out of them tossing them this way and that into the floor. i skate a lot different now so the change in board makes sense.

i couldn’t break one, but the pop
didn’t last forever either. i just liked them cuz flat.

who is using control? i like flat, short lived boards

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on October 08, 2023, 01:37:44 PM

Quote from: Ok on October 08, 2023, 01:32:29 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 08, 2023, 10:41:32 AM

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the only reason i am not a big fan of those flat control boards is cause i like to skate my boards til they are really beat up and i find the kicks flatten out like crazy over time so i prefer them to start as steep as possible. the construction on them is very good imo i used to skate them a lot when i was stair jumping and got a lot of life out of them tossing them this way and that into the floor. i skate a lot different now so the change in board makes sense.

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i couldn’t break one, but the pop
didn’t last forever either. i just liked them cuz flat.

who is using control? i like flat, short lived boards

Scum Co.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 08, 2023, 03:36:29 PM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 08, 2023, 08:41:54 AM

Quote from: Urtripping on October 07, 2023, 06:02:41 AM

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@Sativa Lung or @Mbrimson88 do either of you know which decks Sumco is having BBS make, or is it completely random due to forces at play with small brands like them?

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Nick was just getting wood wherever he could for a while but he hasn't used BBS for a couple runs now. There's still leftover easy riders and KT Simpsons boards out there if you want one but almost everything lately has been control and I think he's still running the logos at least through pennswood as well. If you see an older one you like and can't tell what it is from the pics just @ me again and I'll tell you, but anything that's showed up in a shop in the 6 months or so and isn't a logo deck is probably control.


As to the why - PS stix fucked him around pretty bad during the pandemic shortage and I don't know if he snuck his graphics into someone else's order or just got a small order in but the BBS run wasn't a lot of boards. I think it was only like 3-4 graphics and kind of a test run. If I had to guess he's just more comfortable dealing with the guys he knows and can pick up the phone and explain his crazy ideas to. Control has apparently been super reliable over the years and pennswood is pretty local to us and has been pressing his boards for years but is notoriously unreliable so a combination of the two is the best way to keep wood on shelves. This was all before BBS started taking new accounts and had enough spare to set up a site to sell blanks d2c, so maybe he'll go back to them for the next one. I haven't talked to him for a long time and I get to radio far less than Id like to but next time I see him I'll ask what's up.

Just updated the listing to show Scum Co using Control for 2023.


Thanks for the info too!

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 15, 2023, 08:20:58 PM

Quote from: big_kev_215 on October 15, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on October 13, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

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Quote from: big_kev_215 on October 13, 2023, 12:49:11 PM

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(https://i.ibb.co/kyv3p9v/15-DC7-E9-C-5-B1-E-406-C-8456-688827-FDB734.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyv3p9v)

TOPX 8.0”

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Would gnar. Who presses TOPX boards? How's the shape?

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(https://i.ibb.co/kKbgVxj/44-F6-C419-669-A-4725-86-E7-D2-DD6-C654-A3-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kKbgVxj)

I believe they use Generator now.  Shape looks good - nose/tail aren’t too square and certainly aren’t pointy. Pretty medium concave I’d say.  Looks like a 14.25ish wheelbase.

Nice top board pic.

Adding here and updated the list.

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 16, 2023, 07:26:38 AM

Quote from: Ok on October 08, 2023, 01:32:29 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 08, 2023, 10:41:32 AM

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the only reason i am not a big fan of those flat control boards is cause i like to skate my boards til they are really beat up and i find the kicks flatten out like crazy over time so i prefer them to start as steep as possible. the construction on them is very good imo i used to skate them a lot when i was stair jumping and got a lot of life out of them tossing them this way and that into the floor. i skate a lot different now so the change in board makes sense.

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i couldn’t break one, but the pop
didn’t last forever either. i just liked them cuz flat.

who is using control? i like flat, short lived boards

A lot of Canadian Shop decks use Control so that is why I have a lot of experience with them.
Studio is my favorite brand that puts graphics on em though! Also really like their videos + team.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 16, 2023, 07:54:50 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on October 16, 2023, 07:26:38 AM

Quote from: Ok on October 08, 2023, 01:32:29 PM

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Quote from: rawbertson. on October 08, 2023, 10:41:32 AM

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the only reason i am not a big fan of those flat control boards is cause i like to skate my boards til they are really beat up and i find the kicks flatten out like crazy over time so i prefer them to start as steep as possible. the construction on them is very good imo i used to skate them a lot when i was stair jumping and got a lot of life out of them tossing them this way and that into the floor. i skate a lot different now so the change in board makes sense.

[close]

i couldn’t break one, but the pop
didn’t last forever either. i just liked them cuz flat.

who is using control? i like flat, short lived boards

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A lot of Canadian Shop decks use Control so that is why I have a lot of experience with them.
Studio is my favorite brand that puts graphics on em though! Also really like their videos + team.

i’m not the first to think/say this, but studio had some canadian western edition feel. i really like western edition.
thanks for reminding me to check for studio

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 17, 2023, 06:21:16 AM

Sorry if this is somwhere in this thread, but what are clutch decks like?  Mellow or steep kicks?  What is the concave like?  Are their shapes pretty standard across brands?

Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 17, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

I skated one and had pretty good experience with it. It was fairly standard measurement - 8.5" x 14.5 wb. ~6.75"t / 7" n i believe or somewhere around there (i seem to remember the tail slightly shorter like 6.675" maybe)
it had a very pointy tail and a pretty standard, non square nose.
They make a wide variety of shapes so they seem to be a fairly capable wood shop from what I gather.
The one thing I will say is the nose chipped like super super easily, and i basically never chip boards. but  I have a suspicion that was more to do with how it was stored rather than the manufacturer itself... the tail never chipped at all.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gary Bucket on October 17, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

Quote from: Thebird on October 17, 2023, 06:21:16 AM

Sorry if this is somwhere in this thread, but what are clutch decks like?  Mellow or steep kicks?  What is the concave like?  Are their shapes pretty standard across brands?

Thanks

I found the Clutch K6 8.125 similar to the mellow end Deluxe BBS (forget if thats the I or VI). Not Baker mellow but certainly wouldnt call them steep in any regard

Fuller nose and tail than BBS i thought but a pretty true popsicle, not getting into shovel territory

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on October 17, 2023, 09:01:36 AM

Quote from: Gary Bucket on October 17, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

Quote from: Thebird on October 17, 2023, 06:21:16 AM

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Sorry if this is somwhere in this thread, but what are clutch decks like?  Mellow or steep kicks?  What is the concave like?  Are their shapes pretty standard across brands?

Thanks

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I found the Clutch K6 8.125 similar to the mellow end Deluxe BBS (forget if thats the I or VI). Not Baker mellow but certainly wouldnt call them steep in any regard

Fuller nose and tail than BBS i thought but a pretty true popsicle, not getting into shovel territory

Rode a Clutch K9 a year ago and liked it, stiffness is between a BBS and DSM, pretty tapered but similar to the standard DLX shapes.

The O shape is your fuller nose option, between Quasi and FA.

Most deck brands go with the K or S, followed by the O. Haven't seen any B or V shapes in the wild.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/502d49_bb37c4e02fc84a3bb4e7fd3bd5bef0b1~mv2.jpg/v1/crop/x_160,y_0,w_1309,h_1296/fill/w_883,h_874,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/Clutch2023_StandardShapes.jpg)

Deck brands on Theories used Clutch (Hopps, Magenta, Traffic) for their 2020/2021 graphics which are likely on clearance, you should be able to pick some up on cheap if you do some digging.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on October 17, 2023, 10:05:26 AM

yeah mine must have been the S. Maybe stands for "Shop" deck which is what mine was! Probably not though  ;D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gary Bucket on October 17, 2023, 04:22:29 PM

Quote from: rocklobster on October 17, 2023, 09:01:36 AM

Quote from: Gary Bucket on October 17, 2023, 08:09:53 AM

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Quote from: Thebird on October 17, 2023, 06:21:16 AM

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Sorry if this is somwhere in this thread, but what are clutch decks like?  Mellow or steep kicks?  What is the concave like?  Are their shapes pretty standard across brands?

Thanks

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I found the Clutch K6 8.125 similar to the mellow end Deluxe BBS (forget if thats the I or VI). Not Baker mellow but certainly wouldnt call them steep in any regard

Fuller nose and tail than BBS i thought but a pretty true popsicle, not getting into shovel territory

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Rode a Clutch K9 a year ago and liked it, stiffness is between a BBS and DSM, pretty tapered but similar to the standard DLX shapes.

The O shape is your fuller nose option, between Quasi and FA.

Most deck brands go with the K or S, followed by the O. Haven't seen any B or V shapes in the wild.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/502d49_bb37c4e02fc84a3bb4e7fd3bd5bef0b1~mv2.jpg/v1/crop/x_160,y_0,w_1309,h_1296/fill/w_883,h_874,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/Clutch2023_StandardShapes.jpg)

Deck brands on Theories used Clutch (Hopps, Magenta, Traffic) for their 2020/2021 graphics which are likely on clearance, you should be able to pick some up on cheap if you do some digging.

Ive had multiple Hopps and Traffic Clutch boards within the past year. They were BBS last year though so if youre dead set, best to check for the Clutch shape stamp under the front truck.

If you snipe some clearance Theories dist brands be sure to let us know!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 18, 2023, 06:33:11 AM

Thanks for all of the feedback.  I'm going to look around and see if I can find one with the right specs to try.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 18, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

So is Toy Machine all Clutch now? 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 18, 2023, 08:11:20 PM

Quote from: Thebird on October 18, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

The most recent stuff seems to be more PS Stix, but it depends where you are and which drop of boards, but that was more during the pandemic, when everyone couldn't get normal wood and things were all over the place.

Some here and there is other wood, cheap China boards for some and then Clutch, BBS or PS Stix for others, from what people have posted.

I think that is definitely one to check with the shop and see.


Clutch usually have the letter and number stamp between front bolts, or a size sticker over that area.

PS Stix will always have their laser engraved serial number and other info.

BBS is usually just one larger dimple between front bolts.


China made boards often had the Toy Machine laser engraving logo and size only.


Hope that helps, but it is not a whole lot to go on if you are not seeing the board in person, or the shop doesn't respond to requests for info.  Never hurts to ask them to check the tops of the board for you anyway.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 18, 2023, 08:29:14 PM

Quote from: Thebird on October 18, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

Actually the ones marked "New" from SW look like BBS, so who knows what is going on there.


https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Plaid_Deck/descpage-TM30ETPLDK.html


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TM30ETPLDK-2.jpg)



This is an older graphic on PS Stix

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Templeton_Mask_Deck/descpage-TMTMASK85DK.html


(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TMTMASK85DK-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 18, 2023, 10:09:56 PM

Quote from: Thebird on October 18, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on October 19, 2023, 05:07:38 AM

Wow, sounds like they are all over the place. 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on October 19, 2023, 08:35:16 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 18, 2023, 10:09:56 PM

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So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

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They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 19, 2023, 03:18:06 PM

Quote from: Ok on October 19, 2023, 08:35:16 AM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 18, 2023, 10:09:56 PM

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So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

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They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

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how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

Someone closer to the woodshop or who has actually seen them could probably give you more info.


Watson wood was pretty good back in the day, but the only boards I have from Watson within the last few years have been the old school 80s and pig shapes and they are big, solid and long lasting, for what they are worth.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 19, 2023, 03:26:27 PM

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Watson closing...

From a couple of pages back:

Quote from: manysnakes on September 26, 2023, 03:37:04 PM

Watson Laminates closing?

(https://i.ibb.co/zG8Qt7h/IMG-6549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG8Qt7h)

Wow!

From 1975 to 2023...


Posting the full image here, as per the initial post from last month.


(https://i.ibb.co/Qr8pxCF/IMG-6549.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 22, 2023, 03:50:07 PM

Quote from: Cthulhu! on October 22, 2023, 10:15:26 AM

Speaking of Loophole...
Since they are very probably using hlc, thank you for posting the catalog a few pages ago,



https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf

Not sure if this was already posted - didn't see it anywhere when I checked.

Catalog shown from the wheels thread, but it has a lot of deck info too.

Sorry for not looking deep enough to see who originally posted it as well, but thanks for anyone who brought this up in other threads as it has some good info in it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ish_wav on October 25, 2023, 07:55:11 PM

I took advantage of the super sale element had and got a couple decks. One was on BBS and the other was made in China. I typically won’t skate a China deck (even worse with a brown top ply which this one had) but I’m so happy I did. It’s been my favorite board I’ve ridden in about two years. Medium to mellow concave 8.25 with a 14 wheelbase. I ordered two more of the same graphic hoping they’re as good as this one.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 27, 2023, 05:46:56 PM

Quote from: ish_wav on October 25, 2023, 07:55:11 PM

I took advantage of the super sale element had and got a couple decks. One was on BBS and the other was made in China. I typically won’t skate a China deck (even worse with a brown top ply which this one had) but I’m so happy I did. It’s been my favorite board I’ve ridden in about two years. Medium to mellow concave 8.25 with a 14 wheelbase. I ordered two more of the same graphic hoping they’re as good as this one.

It is down to the concave for me - been so long on BBS concave I just can't skate anything else.

Others I know who get and skate those Element China boards have no issues with them either, so as long as the concave is agreeable, they are a good board at a good price.

Make the most of it while they are as cheap as they are, really.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2023, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 19, 2023, 03:18:06 PM

Quote from: Ok on October 19, 2023, 08:35:16 AM

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So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

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They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

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how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

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Watson made their own for a long time, but more recently they have been making less and buying in blanks from China, so all these could be the China boards, or could be their own boards.

Someone closer to the woodshop or who has actually seen them could probably give you more info.


Watson wood was pretty good back in the day, but the only boards I have from Watson within the last few years have been the old school 80s and pig shapes and they are big, solid and long lasting, for what they are worth.

You're thinking of prime. Watson always pressed their own wood. They mostly survived the modern era by doing more bespoke stuff they could charge a premium for. Blockhead, Sam Hitz, and a few other brands/folks worked very closely with them, to the point they'd often do their own staining and shaping.

If you're not aware O who was sort of the heart and soul of the place passed away fairly recently. This is just personal speculation, but I think that probably had more than a little to do with the decision to shut it down now.

https://otisforever.com/

https://www.exposureskate.org/the-otis-barthoulameu-fund/

Quote from: Ok link=topic=120409.msg4102362#msg4102362

how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

Probably, assault ran most of their stuff through Watson and scram did some of their big shapes through them.

It looks like Tod took all the popsicles they had sitting around and ran them as OG monsters, so there's a ton of them on the market right now if you want to try one. You can probably still find the foundation ovals from the pandemic if you look hard enough too. Actually I just did it out of curiosity and yes you can.

https://tgmskateboards.com/foundation-deck-oval-orange-8-25-x-31-88/

The 8.25 oval I had was great. Wb is 14.38 iirc. Quite flat concave wise, but the kicks are medium. It's very snappy and light feeling like PS wood, but doesn't flex. Im not sure if it was the shape or the wood but I remember flip tricks sticking to my feet really well.

I also have an 8.38 OG monster that's the same mold but 14.12 wb. I didn't get along with it as much as the foundation but I think that was down to not being able to find a truck that matched up well with the wb for me. Oh, those last run OG monsters were full up to the kicks, but not square at all. Not sure if the new ones are the same. It's a very utilitarian, no frills shape but that's kind of why it's great. Neither of mine sogged out though I admittedly didn't skate the Toy a ton.

Edit - forgot there's one more Watson that's still semi in the quiver. I have one of the blockhead hard times 8.38 modern shapes they did a while back. Ive only really skated it as a cruiser but now that I've been enjoying shaped decks more lately I might whip it out and slap some aces on it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 30, 2023, 03:52:00 PM

Quote from: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2023, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 19, 2023, 03:18:06 PM

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Quote from: Ok on October 19, 2023, 08:35:16 AM

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So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

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They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

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how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

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Watson made their own for a long time, but more recently they have been making less and buying in blanks from China, so all these could be the China boards, or could be their own boards.

Someone closer to the woodshop or who has actually seen them could probably give you more info.


Watson wood was pretty good back in the day, but the only boards I have from Watson within the last few years have been the old school 80s and pig shapes and they are big, solid and long lasting, for what they are worth.

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You're thinking of prime. Watson always pressed their own wood. They mostly survived the modern era by doing more bespoke stuff they could charge a premium for. Blockhead, Sam Hitz, and a few other brands/folks worked very closely with them, to the point they'd often do their own staining and shaping.

If you're not aware O who was sort of the heart and soul of the place passed away fairly recently. This is just personal speculation, but I think that probably had more than a little to do with the decision to shut it down now.

Thanks for the correction.

Sometimes I do get confused with things and often if I am a little too busy I forget to check over previous info as well, which is what happened here.

I will remove that info from my previous posts too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2023, 04:01:18 PM

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Sorry if this is somwhere in this thread, but what are clutch decks like?  Mellow or steep kicks?  What is the concave like?  Are their shapes pretty standard across brands?

Thanks

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I found the Clutch K6 8.125 similar to the mellow end Deluxe BBS (forget if thats the I or VI). Not Baker mellow but certainly wouldnt call them steep in any regard

Fuller nose and tail than BBS i thought but a pretty true popsicle, not getting into shovel territory

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Rode a Clutch K9 a year ago and liked it, stiffness is between a BBS and DSM, pretty tapered but similar to the standard DLX shapes.

The O shape is your fuller nose option, between Quasi and FA.

Most deck brands go with the K or S, followed by the O. Haven't seen any B or V shapes in the wild.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/502d49_bb37c4e02fc84a3bb4e7fd3bd5bef0b1~mv2.jpg/v1/crop/x_160,y_0,w_1309,h_1296/fill/w_883,h_874,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/Clutch2023_StandardShapes.jpg)

Deck brands on Theories used Clutch (Hopps, Magenta, Traffic) for their 2020/2021 graphics which are likely on clearance, you should be able to pick some up on cheap if you do some digging.

Minor correction, but the primary clutch popsicles you'll find are the K and C for tapered shapes, O and X for the full ones. S is actually not super common these days, though I think syndrome still uses it. P was fairly common too

Some companies like coda will put which Chapman/clutch shape they're running in the description, but you kinda have to memorize the dims to really differentiate (and I mean N/T, sometimes the length and wb match up). I think socal lists the shape codes when they sell clutch wood as well, or puts it in the item number or something like that. It's been a minute since I really went heavy on clutch stuff.

Also some of the warehouse places that run clutch wood will put up clear enough pics that you can make out the stamp, though for stuff like the O and V you can kinda just spot it from the shape. Flip runs a lot of O shape for example, so that's why their boards often look super square in stock photos.

There's older versions of the shape guide floating around that shows all the shapes. I want to say there's like 8 or 9 popsicles. If I come across one I'll post it here. Unfortunately they never really listed full dims so I had a spreadsheet for that. I don't know if I still have that either though, I accidentally deleted like half of my Google drive a while back. Let me see if I can find anything next time I'm on my laptop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2023, 04:19:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on October 30, 2023, 03:52:00 PM

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So is Toy Machine all Clutch now?

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They barely use clutch now actually. Mostly BBS and PS in America with some China wood floating around, almost all seems to be Chinese if you're outside of the states. Interestingly Japan seems to mostly get PS boards imported from the states rather than the China wood. Foundation was mixing more Chinese wood in for a while but they seem to be back to more PS wood lately as well.

The OG monsters that just dropped everywhere are Watson wood as well. I believe this run is lasered, the last drop of those weren't. If you ever see that graphic or the foundation ovals they only seem to run them through watson. Outside of those you'll want to see the top ply or stickers for ID.

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how are watson boards? i don’t think i’ve ever ridden a watson popsicle.
had a really nice scram x assault, that was i think watson

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Watson made their own for a long time, but more recently they have been making less and buying in blanks from China, so all these could be the China boards, or could be their own boards.

Someone closer to the woodshop or who has actually seen them could probably give you more info.


Watson wood was pretty good back in the day, but the only boards I have from Watson within the last few years have been the old school 80s and pig shapes and they are big, solid and long lasting, for what they are worth.

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You're thinking of prime. Watson always pressed their own wood. They mostly survived the modern era by doing more bespoke stuff they could charge a premium for. Blockhead, Sam Hitz, and a few other brands/folks worked very closely with them, to the point they'd often do their own staining and shaping.

If you're not aware O who was sort of the heart and soul of the place passed away fairly recently. This is just personal speculation, but I think that probably had more than a little to do with the decision to shut it down now.

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Thanks for the correction.

Sometimes I do get confused with things and often if I am a little too busy I forget to check over previous info as well, which is what happened here.

I will remove that info from my previous posts too.

No worries. That's an easy one to confuse... they're both old school socal woodshops that were until recently surviving on the fringes of the wood game, and were kinda contemporaries in that birth of the popsicle and modern street skating era.

Like I said I don't actually know anything about Watson on a personal level but I always got the impression that it was a pretty tight knit place and losing O kind of sucked the wind out of their sails. I'd imagine it was already on life support financially precisely because they refused to become another Prime (or PGI, or Point, or Chapman) and insisted on making quality American skateboards by hand until they just couldn't anymore. It's quite sad, in a lot of ways you could probably consider them the last great old school American woodshop. I always kind of thought Watson was to decks what Ermico was to trucks.

I do wish there had been a bit more of a celebration and tribute, but shutting it down quietly is definitely in line with the way they ran the business and you have to respect that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on October 30, 2023, 04:53:48 PM

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Someone had posted a screen shot of this in another thread the other day, which I tried to look for and didn't find, but it was just easier to check the insta post from Sam Hitz and repost it here.


https://www.instagram.com/larbvomit/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CywUGYdJ9EW/


Accompanying text:

For years I would be at Watson laminates on a weekly basis. I had my own cubby hole there with all my templates in it for crying out loud. Nothing cooler than casually walking through the big garage doors and being greeted by Big Jim @jig60 at his shaping table..Some of the best boards I’ve ridden were by his hand. If O wasn’t there already, I knew if I waited a bit longer he would come walking in eventually and get his nose in what I was up to.. always encouraging and sincerely interested was O. I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed his counsel as so many others have. I’d be lying if I told you this photo doesn’t choke me up a bit now. Here we have my boy holding his custom “Fart Fighter” deck surrounded by true masters of the craft.. With @csmodel28 and @montanapoolservice in the house I had to snap this photo..just another day at Watson really when big Jim was at the helm. Now it’s gone, pieced out to the highest bidder. It’s a shame, The place was a Gem of SD skateboarding. I truly know how spoiled I was to have access to the place making and skating hundreds of boards from there. Sucks it’s gone.
My best goes to all the employees that were still working there in the end.
Thank you for your service.
1w

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2023, 05:35:49 PM

Ya Hitz would occasionally do these absolutely wild custom shapes through Watson... if you ever watch that YouTube show where he goes and looks through creature riders board stashes you can see some of them. Usually really limited runs, like 50 or less. I think he was cranking a lot of them out basically by hand with the help of the Watson dudes. I used to see them occasionally pop up in shops or on eBay but I haven't seen one for a while.

https://youtu.be/_ETlUdxqIbk?feature=shared

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: OhioGuy on November 07, 2023, 10:33:29 AM

Not sure if this goes here, but I’ve noticed that Welcome’s latest batch of decks are mostly popsicles. That’s what they’re called, no clever names, just popsicles.

I wonder if that means shaped decks are losing popularity. They’re still BBS, just thought I’d share.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 07, 2023, 04:33:12 PM

Quote from: OhioGuy on November 07, 2023, 10:33:29 AM

Not sure if this goes here, but I’ve noticed that Welcome’s latest batch of decks are mostly popsicles. That’s what they’re called, no clever names, just popsicles.

I wonder if that means shaped decks are losing popularity. They’re still BBS, just thought I’d share.

I wonder how many boards they are still selling compared to a year or even a few years ago.

They had branched out into twin boards not too long ago, which seemed to be selling well for them, but I guess it is just one of those things, where most brands will only stay interesting for a certain period, then drop off somewhat while the next big thing emerges.

Of course there are always brands that seem to stay relevant to a good number of skateboarders, but that number is dropping in favour of many more smaller niche market brands for whatever reason, same as things changed from 1980s to 1990s, when there were a handful of very large corporate brands, which then bled pro skaters into all their own startups and ended up with a ton more two minute companies with a smaller team but more relevance to the current skater market.

I haven't even seen many Welcome boards around of late, but they sure were known for anything and everything shaped at one point.


https://welcomeskateboards.com/collections/decks


Certainly the newer boards are maybe 40% popsicle to 60% shaped from their site, but that might also include a lot of older boards in the mix.

Some of those shapes are nice too, the Boline being a decent egg shape in 9.5 width.



https://welcomeskateboards.com/pages/shape-guide


It was fascinating to look through all the shapes, but I think I only ever skated a few, Golem and Sledgehammer / Necromancer being the main ones that people I know had and skated.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: schralp pal on November 08, 2023, 09:56:20 AM

I just got an UMA pro model from their latest drop and it is china made. Has laser etched top with logo and dims.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 08, 2023, 05:41:32 PM

Quote from: schralp pal on November 08, 2023, 09:56:20 AM

I just got an UMA pro model from their latest drop and it is china made. Has laser etched top with logo and dims.

I guess I will be changing that listing again.

But really, they started as BBS, then I think there were issues, so they did a China run, then back on BBS for a while, maybe a couple of years, now China again.

How does the concave and mold of the boards compare to other Uma / BBS boards, if you have had any recently to check against?

People who had the China made boards at first said they held up really well and had different concaves to the usual other more common China made boards, so I am curious if they have kept that going, or just have a more generic option for concaves / shapes / dimensions now.

Thanks for the info too.

Always appreciated!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: schralp pal on November 08, 2023, 07:22:19 PM

I thought it would be the standard bbs 8.5 x 32 x 14.5 that frog and alltimers use, but it’s damn near identical, when they stack on top they fit together seamlessly. Maybe the uma is a tad flatter through the middle and is a bit longer. Here is a frog 8.5 side by side with the uma.  I ride crail go53 a lot and there is a creature shape I like, way more stiff but also longer lasting, Chinese wood shops have been solid for me.

(https://i.imgur.com/oH5qEe2.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 07:43:42 PM

Came here to ask about Uma too, riding their 8.75 x 32.75 x 14.75, i think it’s from an old drop as I got it on sale.
Not sure if bbs but it has the dot but also a laser engraved logo. Feels like bbs to me. Anyway wanted to ask if anyone knew other companies using this 8.75 shape? I quite like it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 08, 2023, 09:02:43 PM

Quote from: schralp pal on November 08, 2023, 07:22:19 PM

I thought it would be the standard bbs 8.5 x 32 x 14.5 that frog and alltimers use, but it’s damn near identical, when they stack on top they fit together seamlessly. Maybe the uma is a tad flatter through the middle and is a bit longer. Here is a frog 8.5 side by side with the uma.  I ride crail go53 a lot and there is a creature shape I like, way more stiff but also longer lasting, Chinese wood shops have been solid for me.

So good seeing those pics and hearing that info.

Been wondering if the concaves have been copied and now it seems like it has (as well as the DLX boards also being made in China to their specifications, concaves, etc too) so that is good, rather than just using generic presses for whatever brand when coming from BBS before.

Those usual 8.5 BBS shapes are really comfortable too, as well as the dimensions being fairly common across other brands / woodshops for the 8.5 x 32 with 14.5 wb.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 08, 2023, 09:05:06 PM

Quote from: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 07:43:42 PM

Came here to ask about Uma too, riding their 8.75 x 32.75 x 14.75, i think it’s from an old drop as I got it on sale.
Not sure if bbs but it has the dot but also a laser engraved logo. Feels like bbs to me. Anyway wanted to ask if anyone knew other companies using this 8.75 shape? I quite like it.

Re Uma, I think that one would have been BBS as it was only a very limited run that was on China wood at first, maybe even more so just AU and Asia, with USA still being all BBS.  They all still had laser engraved UMA name with a little pic and size / dimensions on the BBS boards I saw in local shops here.

This post back on page 33 or so had all the info of shapes from Skatesamples.com which has the board listed as 8.75 x 32.625 with 14.75 wb, 7 nose and 6.625 tail

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4016120#msg4016120


As to other brands, I don't know of many that use it, besides people recently saying Sci Fi has that same shape, but I wonder if checking Tactics or SW might help a bit with similar brands when searching the 8.75 size.  Also any shop boards that come from Generator / use BBS wood could also be that same shape, for another option anyway.


https://www.tactics.com/sci-fi-fantasy/spiritual-darkness-875-skateboard-deck


I saw from there others like Black Label, Heroin, Baker, Deathwish are shorter options, with the DLX 8.75 being almost there, but not quite.  Even the Tactics board is the same I think, but someone else would have to clarify that.

Of course if you have the option to buy from skatesamples.com they are there too, but that usually only works out well if you are in USA and buy a few or more at a time.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 09:29:42 PM

Good info as usual, thanks!

Yeah I’m in aus, so I think it is BBS. Just got finished with a sci fi 8.75, and they are definitely different, with the Uma being about a quarter inch longer overall which gives it a more generous tail which I like.

Thought the extra length would be too much, but honestly considering skating a 33’er after this.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 09, 2023, 03:07:35 PM

Quote from: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 09:29:42 PM

Good info as usual, thanks!

Yeah I’m in aus, so I think it is BBS. Just got finished with a sci fi 8.75, and they are definitely different, with the Uma being about a quarter inch longer overall which gives it a more generous tail which I like.

Thought the extra length would be too much, but honestly considering skating a 33’er after this.

Interesting to hear the Uma board was shorter, but I guess that also rings true with their other board shapes I had looked at - the 8.38 had a shorter wheelbase, I seem to recall.

Definitely not economical to get any less than ten of the blanks at a time, which worked out about $70 to $80 or so each, shipping actually being more in total than the price of the wood, but that is just one of those things that any distributor / importer deals with in terms of bringing anything into Australia.  Having $700 to $800 to spare and waiting up to a month for the delivery would be too much for most people too.


They have probably already sold out now, but a Darkroom board I bought on sale was really good, similar dimensions too.  The only reason I hadn't mentioned it sooner is that they are finished and gone, so most likely no more around, but just in case, they are worth checking out in the bigger sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 09, 2023, 09:06:31 PM

Quote from: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 09:29:42 PM

Good info as usual, thanks!

Yeah I’m in aus, so I think it is BBS. Just got finished with a sci fi 8.75, and they are definitely different, with the Uma being about a quarter inch longer overall which gives it a more generous tail which I like.

Thought the extra length would be too much, but honestly considering skating a 33’er after this.

I posted this in the DLX Shapes thread, but thought after seeing you ask about 8.75 boards, this one might be of interest.

Still got a Grosso 8.75 FULL board that is a beast compared to any other smaller board, but it is still a bit more normal than the 9" orange eagle.


This will take a while to get here to AU, but might be one to look out for anyway.



https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg4112504#msg4112504


Anyone still keen on the 8.75 FULL shape???

Real Drop 2 for Fall is up with one there.


8.75 x 32.86 with a 14.7 wb, 7.2 nose and 6.62 tail


https://www.realskateboards.com/fall-2023/


(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-fall23-d2-06.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: juniormint on November 09, 2023, 09:31:34 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on November 09, 2023, 09:06:31 PM

Quote from: juniormint on November 08, 2023, 09:29:42 PM

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Good info as usual, thanks!

Yeah I’m in aus, so I think it is BBS. Just got finished with a sci fi 8.75, and they are definitely different, with the Uma being about a quarter inch longer overall which gives it a more generous tail which I like.

Thought the extra length would be too much, but honestly considering skating a 33’er after this.

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I posted this in the DLX Shapes thread, but thought after seeing you ask about 8.75 boards, this one might be of interest.

Still got a Grosso 8.75 FULL board that is a beast compared to any other smaller board, but it is still a bit more normal than the 9" orange eagle.


This will take a while to get here to AU, but might be one to look out for anyway.



https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg4112504#msg4112504


Anyone still keen on the 8.75 FULL shape???

Real Drop 2 for Fall is up with one there.


8.75 x 32.86 with a 14.7 wb, 7.2 nose and 6.62 tail


https://www.realskateboards.com/fall-2023/


(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-fall23-d2-06.jpg)

Oh nice thanks, yeah that sounds good on paper. Would love to see a top view of that thing, I will keep my eyes out.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on November 10, 2023, 02:26:43 PM

Looks like latest Scumco drop is PS Stix

https://scumcoandsons.com (https://scumcoandsons.com)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 06:03:29 AM

I guess I am a little late on this
Has anyone had blanks from Canadaskateshop.com recently? From what i gather they used to be BBS, but now they are not because apparently they advertising them as BBS and shouldnt have been or something like that. Does anyone know where they are made and if they are any good?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Creachteach on November 11, 2023, 10:34:19 AM

The Zero decks I’m looking at, where a picture of the top is available looks like a mix of DSM R7 for team boards and most pro models have that BBS dimple stamped between the front truck bolt holes.
Some pro boards are also DSM R7.

I’m in Europe.

Wish they'd just tell on their website. Why FFS doesn’t everyone just post top and side photos of every board and provide us with their maker?
Why do we as consumers have to be detectives?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 11:04:35 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on November 11, 2023, 10:34:19 AM

The Zero decks I’m looking at, where a picture of the top is available looks like a mix of DSM R7 for team boards and most pro models have that BBS dimple stamped between the front truck bolt holes.
Some pro boards are also DSM R7.

I’m in Europe.

Wish they'd just tell on their website. Why FFS doesn’t everyone just post top and side photos of every board and provide us with their maker?
Why do we as consumers have to be detectives?

they are not always able to get boards from BBS so they have to go elsewhere unfortunately. that is the thing about buying from those brands that have the * beside their name... thats why i dont really bother unless its in person.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 11, 2023, 07:56:59 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 11:04:35 AM

Quote from: Creachteach on November 11, 2023, 10:34:19 AM

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The Zero decks I’m looking at, where a picture of the top is available looks like a mix of DSM R7 for team boards and most pro models have that BBS dimple stamped between the front truck bolt holes.
Some pro boards are also DSM R7.

I’m in Europe.

Wish they'd just tell on their website. Why FFS doesn’t everyone just post top and side photos of every board and provide us with their maker?
Why do we as consumers have to be detectives?

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they are not always able to get boards from BBS so they have to go elsewhere unfortunately. that is the thing about buying from those brands that have the * beside their name... thats why i dont really bother unless its in person.

It has been like that here in AU for a while now, with no BBS or other similar wood in country, all the Zero boards being DSM or more recently (last few years) they have been on some unknown wood, much like Toy Machine and other brands, decks from China, weird concave and shapes that just don't feel that nice to me anyway, but I will gladly note I am a broken record when it comes to what I like and will ride, compared to other people out there, who ride a lot of boards I can not.

A friend bought in a few Zero boards not too long ago from a shop in USA and they were the same BBS 8.5 boards I have a lot of from other brands, so last I heard they were still using BBS in USA for their wood, but that could be old info now as well.
 
To be fair to certain companies that seem to have wood from anywhere or everywhere, depending on which country or area, not limited to or maybe not even relevant to Zero and their distribution network, but sometimes it is not even down to the company itself, but the licensing deals that mean whatever local distro in whichever country or continent can put the specific brand graphics via heat transfers on boards from where ever they want, or get them done in China and sent over here, skipping out on getting the good boards from USA that the brand uses there.

I understand that it is a cost saving measure, because BBS boards from Mexico, through USA then down here to AU take time and money to get here, compared to boards made in China and then sent directly from the manufacturer to the distribution warehouse in country.  Especially when they are not at all concerned as to the shape, concaves or the press / mold used for the boards.  Just get those boards with that brand graphic on them and ship them out ASAP!!!

Some other brands are increasingly doing this as well, including some well known brands that have used BBS in the past.
 DLX has also started making boards in China, which has always had boards made through BBS in Mexico.  The hiccup with a number of other companies that have been doing this for a while is the concave and feel of the boards change, so a BBS board will feel a certain way, then a generic press / mold board from China feels totally different.  In that regard, it seems like DLX is doing really good things there, using the same molds, but I am yet to see or skate anything from China from DLX.  That stock arrives in a few months, but I am keen, to say the least.


As to why brands and online shops do not put more info on their listings, for some, they have had a drop in sales from listing everything, which I can understand with a woodshop that is not desirable, which happened during covid times, 2020 and 2021 when some brands could not get their usual boards, so went with a cheaper / more available option at the time.  I don't have anything else to say about specific other brands of wood, good or bad, as it is personal opinion, but as per the poll here, 95% of these people prefer known wood and it shows with board sales sometimes.  I also know the general public is way less informed or knowledgeable about different woodshops, but people still know when a board is good or not and then don't buy another one from that brand if they didn't like the first one.

I would be very happy to see anyone and everyone listing where their boards come from, but generally, the warning sticker or other "Made in..." sticker is the best bet, with other laser etching info, or even just other sticker info on the board shrink, which often has dimensions and Made in China, or similar for some brands.

For now that will have to do for a lot of brands or shops, so unless you can get in to a shop in person, or even message / email / ask the shop for more info, pics of the tops, etc, then you are going to just have to wing it, so to speak. Boards I knew were changing dropped off my list, so if it is unknown, I have to see it in person first, even in a shop I am not going to buy from, before I will get that brand / graphic / shape of board.  Others I know and trust, I can buy online or sight unseen any time and be happy knowing what I am getting, but even with some boards, I still messaged asking specific questions in previous years.  If the shop responded, I would usually buy it, or at least buy something from that shop, but if the shop didn't reply, then I didn't buy anything from them at all.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 11, 2023, 08:57:56 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 06:03:29 AM

I guess I am a little late on this
Has anyone had blanks from Canadaskateshop.com recently? From what i gather they used to be BBS, but now they are not because apparently they advertising them as BBS and shouldnt have been or something like that. Does anyone know where they are made and if they are any good?

Almost missed replying this before, but I had meant to check what they actually have in stock now earlier, then got distracted.

They had a mix of a few woodshops actually - BBS, Clutch, China wood, then even something else Control or Woodchuck I think, but that doesn't mean a thing if they no longer have it in stock.

I think they have firmed up what they have now, but from looking at the nine deck listings, I feel like I am no closer to knowing which is which, but it also seems like some of those boards might be the remainder of old stock.

The other good thing is there are dimensions to everything, clearly shown on every listing.


The older "Steep and sturdy" shape was from China, or at least someone had posted the top laser etched graphic, but the listing for it looks different now, saying they are more mellow, which doesn't make sense.  Only 8 and 8.1 available.

The OG boards seem like they are BBS, so I guess they got over the previous issues, now happy again, etc.  Available in 8, 8.75 and 9.

Blunt shape, no idea, maybe Clutch with the top pic, but can't be certain it is with two somethings between bolts, but it could also be the size between the bottom bolts, as I had seen with a China board before.  Only available in 8 and 8.1 so maybe not of interest either.

Last one is the Bold shape, certain boards, in 8.5 or 8.75 and they are the ones I don't know - maybe Woodchuck, again dimensions listed, natural tops, one coloured middle ply and bottom ply.

Might not help much, but I think that is about where it is at right now anyway.


https://canadaskateshop.com/product-category/skateboard-decks/


So much on sale, so who knows what is going on there, but I know the guy used to reply to anyone, as per the older woodshop threads with other info.

Probably should have started with that, but not to worry.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pile on November 11, 2023, 10:07:38 PM

unsure if it has been said or not yet, but the recent toy machine re-issues (steamer, maldonado, b.a) are ps stix.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on November 13, 2023, 07:34:12 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 11, 2023, 08:57:56 PM

Quote from: rawbertson. on November 11, 2023, 06:03:29 AM

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I guess I am a little late on this
Has anyone had blanks from Canadaskateshop.com recently? From what i gather they used to be BBS, but now they are not because apparently they advertising them as BBS and shouldnt have been or something like that. Does anyone know where they are made and if they are any good?

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Almost missed replying this before, but I had meant to check what they actually have in stock now earlier, then got distracted.

They had a mix of a few woodshops actually - BBS, Clutch, China wood, then even something else Control or Woodchuck I think, but that doesn't mean a thing if they no longer have it in stock.

I think they have firmed up what they have now, but from looking at the nine deck listings, I feel like I am no closer to knowing which is which, but it also seems like some of those boards might be the remainder of old stock.

The other good thing is there are dimensions to everything, clearly shown on every listing.


The older "Steep and sturdy" shape was from China, or at least someone had posted the top laser etched graphic, but the listing for it looks different now, saying they are more mellow, which doesn't make sense.  Only 8 and 8.1 available.

The OG boards seem like they are BBS, so I guess they got over the previous issues, now happy again, etc.  Available in 8, 8.75 and 9.

Blunt shape, no idea, maybe Clutch with the top pic, but can't be certain it is with two somethings between bolts, but it could also be the size between the bottom bolts, as I had seen with a China board before.  Only available in 8 and 8.1 so maybe not of interest either.

Last one is the Bold shape, certain boards, in 8.5 or 8.75 and they are the ones I don't know - maybe Woodchuck, again dimensions listed, natural tops, one coloured middle ply and bottom ply.

Might not help much, but I think that is about where it is at right now anyway.


https://canadaskateshop.com/product-category/skateboard-decks/


So much on sale, so who knows what is going on there, but I know the guy used to reply to anyone, as per the older woodshop threads with other info.

Probably should have started with that, but not to worry.

I decided to just message myself! Why not right?

here's what he replied

Hey thanks for the interest. It’s generator/bbs for the OG shape and all the graphic decks. blunt shape blanks and the steep and sturdy blanks are made in China. I’ll be making all blanks at generator for next spring if all goes well.

Oh and the clothing with a K stuff is made in the same place as Dime and supreme. Made in Canada!

I am getting BBS boards really cheap right now but that will likely not last forever, so I want to have some backup in place. This is exactly what I was hoping for! If anything this has made me really curious to try the clothing.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 14, 2023, 03:08:45 PM

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From the sale thread, re Element decks - some have it listed as BBS but some do not.


Still unsure whether new ones are BBS or China wood, but at last check all the Smokey Bear boards were BBS, then some others, but increasingly the newer ones are China wood, but this could also change depending on drops, different places round the world, etc.



Those ones were the pricepoint BBS wood over here in AU when I saw them, then the next time they were all on China wood which had the other usual China laser engraving info, so it is interesting to see they were still BBS for those ones.

Did that pic have natural top or is it yellow?  Kinda looks natural, but as you said, only top ply stained and I know when I take pics of boards, the lighter stains show the laser engraving a lot better than the darker stains.

Quote from: TwisT on November 14, 2023, 05:16:09 AM

Quote from: jsettle on November 14, 2023, 04:35:05 AM

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So just a heads up. Got my clearance element decks today. A whole 2 weeks to ship and a week to make it here to the east coast. No free grip

They were BBS as listed. Only the top ply is dyed. Super mellow concave with steep kicks

(https://i.imgur.com/rdtmtPw.jpg)

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Did you get the one that says 100 % wood or 100% maple. There are a few 8.25s im looking at and was trying to make sure how to tell which ones are BBS.

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Product description specifically said bbs under details
https://www.elementbrand.com/camo-cabourn-seal-skateboard-deck-194844099501.html

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 16, 2023, 08:23:25 PM

Quote from: Ok on November 15, 2023, 01:04:22 PM

has anyone skated a limosine board (specifically the 9”)?

does all of the arty things detract from the boards performance?

I had not actually looked, but it seems they do go above and beyond with cool stuff, even the specific ply colours, some of those boards being all coloured ply layers, some slick, some just graphic with pearl overlay, etc.

Going by that, besides having a slick bottom on one, I don't think the rest of the other things would make any difference to skating it but it might be a little more slidey with some things, then very slidey with the slick bottom.


Also having all their dimensions on their side is a plus and that 9.0 x 33.25 with 14.8 wb is a different one too, unless they just measured the inside holes to make it a shorter wheelbase and it is still the normal 15" BBS wheelbase.


https://limosineskateboards.com/


https://limosineskateboards.com/products/copy-of-snake-pit-slick-bottom


Digital Print With Negative Opacities To Reveal Black Wood Grain In Upper Image(Trees) With Pearl Coat Over Bottom Image (Water)

VENEERS 2-6 DYED GREEN , TOP PLY ESPRESSO

Available in:

 

8.38" x 31.89"

14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.25"
14.40" Wheelbase

9.0" x 33.25"
14.8" Wheelbase


(https://limosineskateboards.com/cdn/shop/files/loreth_top_detail_1100x.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2023, 08:28:36 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on November 16, 2023, 08:23:25 PM

Quote from: Ok on November 15, 2023, 01:04:22 PM

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has anyone skated a limosine board (specifically the 9”)?

does all of the arty things detract from the boards performance?

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I had not actually looked, but it seems they do go above and beyond with cool stuff, even the specific ply colours, some of those boards being all coloured ply layers, some slick, some just graphic with pearl overlay, etc.

Going by that, besides having a slick bottom on one, I don't think the rest of the other things would make any difference to skating it but it might be a little more slidey with some things, then very slidey with the slick bottom.


Also having all their dimensions on their side is a plus and that 9.0 x 33.25 with 14.8 wb is a different one too, unless they just measured the inside holes to make it a shorter wheelbase and it is still the normal 15" BBS wheelbase.


https://limosineskateboards.com/


https://limosineskateboards.com/products/copy-of-snake-pit-slick-bottom


Digital Print With Negative Opacities To Reveal Black Wood Grain In Upper Image(Trees) With Pearl Coat Over Bottom Image (Water)

VENEERS 2-6 DYED GREEN , TOP PLY ESPRESSO

Available in:

 

8.38" x 31.89"

14.20" Wheelbase

8.5" x 32.25"
14.40" Wheelbase

9.0" x 33.25"
14.8" Wheelbase


(https://limosineskateboards.com/cdn/shop/files/loreth_top_detail_1100x.jpg)

cool enough company, and i saw cyrus skate in person, when he was a little kid, some local contest. he was incredible, and had just started. it was shocking.
the company is maybe a little too cool for me, didn’t go out of my way to check for em, but wanted a big board and that came up.
looking at their details….it’s kinda neat

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 16, 2023, 08:33:37 PM

I had a creature with all green ply’s over a decade ago. I never saw another one like it. These look sick.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 16, 2023, 08:41:53 PM

Quote from: TwisT on November 16, 2023, 08:33:37 PM

I had a creature with all green ply’s over a decade ago. I never saw another one like it. These look sick.

I wonder if they are dipped in green dye after pressing, or all dyed pre pressing.

Seem to recall those Creature ones had a very thin layer of green all round the edges, but not right through - different to the usual dipped (all over sprayed boards) they put out for ages too.

Any which way, it is unique, that one with brown top and rest green, another one with charcoal / grey right through, etc.

Sure does look fascinating to me too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2023, 09:45:09 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 16, 2023, 08:41:53 PM

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I had a creature with all green ply’s over a decade ago. I never saw another one like it. These look sick.

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I wonder if they are dipped in green dye after pressing, or all dyed pre pressing.

Seem to recall those Creature ones had a very thin layer of green all round the edges, but not right through - different to the usual dipped (all over sprayed boards) they put out for ages too.

Any which way, it is unique, that one with brown top and rest green, another one with charcoal / grey right through, etc.

Sure does look fascinating to me too.

they charge a premium.
being a mega dork maybe i’d be more hyped for premium wood hoping that would = premium ollies.

but. the doing something different is sick. i was stoked on the early fa stuff because it was different/fun. this is too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 17, 2023, 10:19:41 AM

I could have swore there was a thing called enjoi rainbow ply where the ply’s were 7 different colors, but I couldn’t find any evidence of it. Maybe I imagined it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 17, 2023, 02:21:11 PM

Quote from: TwisT on November 17, 2023, 10:19:41 AM

I could have swore there was a thing called enjoi rainbow ply where the ply’s were 7 different colors, but I couldn’t find any evidence of it. Maybe I imagined it.

No not imagined.

I used to see them all the time on the Enjoi lettering boards, big bold text on white background maybe an umbrella in the lettering or something.

Spectrum might have been in the product name, but nothing came up in searches for me either.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 17, 2023, 02:54:02 PM

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An interesting thread, "Woodshop experiences" is somewhere people can really let loose on different woodshops, more so than a more information based thread like this one.

Give it a crack!


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=128492.0

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 18, 2023, 01:51:22 PM

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Good info as usual, thanks!

Yeah I’m in aus, so I think it is BBS. Just got finished with a sci fi 8.75, and they are definitely different, with the Uma being about a quarter inch longer overall which gives it a more generous tail which I like.

Thought the extra length would be too much, but honestly considering skating a 33’er after this.

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I posted this in the DLX Shapes thread, but thought after seeing you ask about 8.75 boards, this one might be of interest.

Still got a Grosso 8.75 FULL board that is a beast compared to any other smaller board, but it is still a bit more normal than the 9" orange eagle.


This will take a while to get here to AU, but might be one to look out for anyway.



https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg4112504#msg4112504


Anyone still keen on the 8.75 FULL shape???

Real Drop 2 for Fall is up with one there.


8.75 x 32.86 with a 14.7 wb, 7.2 nose and 6.62 tail


https://www.realskateboards.com/fall-2023/

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Oh nice thanks, yeah that sounds good on paper. Would love to see a top view of that thing, I will keep my eyes out.

Easier to see from the product shop pic rather than taking pics of my board at home.

Click on the pic for the full size, as it is scaled down, or the direct link to the board listing.


https://www.tactics.com/real/guerroro-barnelco-x-real-875-full-shape-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.86
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.7
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   6.75


(https://www.tactics.com/a/etph/1b/real-guerroro-barnelco-x-real-875-full-shape-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sativa Lung on November 18, 2023, 11:22:23 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on November 10, 2023, 02:26:43 PM

Looks like latest Scumco drop is PS Stix

https://scumcoandsons.com (https://scumcoandsons.com)

I posted the shaped one in the setup thread last week if you want a closer look. I think it's a smaller run so if anyone is interested I wouldn't wait, radio only had one of each plus an extra shaped one they pulled for me. Each graphic only has one size, so like the 8.25 is the Downey (same shape and dimensions as quasi/doomsayers). I fucking love the one I got. Great dudes, one of the best companies in skateboarding, and the absolute best reflection of rust belt skate life out there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on November 21, 2023, 07:38:28 AM

My sister got me a glow in the dark boardpusher board for my birthday, she pulled a graphic from my instagram, and while it isn't how I would have applied the graphic, It is one of her better graphics. She also got the right size which... I'll have to ask her about later.

Anyway, I love a custom board, but never ordered from BP. They have some fun options, like the previously mentioned glow-in-the-dark, but also silver foil, holographic and woodgrain. Decks are 7 ply natural veneer.

This is from the site page "Deck info and Quality" https://www.boardpusher.com/shop/skateboard-decks

Quote

- 100% Canadian Maple, the best wood for making skateboards, period.
- Made in Canada, right at the source of the best wood there is for making skateboards: Canadian Maple. We don't cut any corners. This is the best there is.
- Printed in Denver, Colorado. Your graphic is digitally printed and applied by hand, using BoardPusher's unique Digital Heat Transfer process.
- Guaranteed to match our online preview.

They also have a nice little shape guide here:
https://www.boardpusher.com/custom-skateboards/shapes/

There are a few other woodshops in Canada other than control. My previous control boards had a "made in canada" sticker and a number "2" embossed on the top. It is really flat in the middle, me decently concaved on the side. The nose and tail are about average.

Pictures
(https://i.imgur.com/5n3s4Ec.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5UbgYJ2.jpg)

For concave reference
Element - BP - Sci-Fi
(https://i.imgur.com/MjxhQTU.jpg)


glow!
(https://i.imgur.com/B6XEmD5m.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2023, 11:23:18 PM

I recently bought some element deck and there are several that are from HLC and others from China. Can they be Excel?
given the engraving of 100% Premium North American Maple, there is some cheap deals with this brand,is crazy

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on November 26, 2023, 03:31:23 PM

Quote from: Haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2023, 11:23:18 PM

I recently bought some element deck and there are several that are from HLC and others from China. Can they be Excel?
given the engraving of 100% Premium North American Maple, there is some cheap deals with this brand,is crazy

Re Element boards of unknown origin from China - there is a good chance they could be from there, but there is also a good chance they could be from somewhere else in China, as there are so many places now doing boards.

The completes that came in a box had info for Excel on them, so they were confirmed, but I really don't know.


DSM (Dwindle) are a much stiffer board, so not there, when comparing a lot of DSM boards to other China made boards.

Other somewhat known woodshops like Dalian Huahong Sports Tool Co., Ltd, Zhongshan Jeeping Wooden Industrial & Sport Co., Ltd, and as you said, Excel don't have a specific product I could say were this or that, the way other non Asian woodshops are a lot easier to identify, which is why I usually just put "China" when there is a "Made in China" sticker on it, but not a confirmation of where or which woodshop it comes from.


There seem like so many woodshops in China now too, finding more every other time I do a search, but as to which ones are making a lot more boards, compared to others, I don't have enough information to provide any more details.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Haveyouseenhim on November 27, 2023, 10:02:51 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on November 26, 2023, 03:31:23 PM

Quote from: Haveyouseenhim on November 23, 2023, 11:23:18 PM

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I recently bought some element deck and there are several that are from HLC and others from China. Can they be Excel?
given the engraving of 100% Premium North American Maple, there is some cheap deals with this brand,is crazy

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Re Element boards of unknown origin from China - there is a good chance they could be from there, but there is also a good chance they could be from somewhere else in China, as there are so many places now doing boards.

The completes that came in a box had info for Excel on them, so they were confirmed, but I really don't know.


DSM (Dwindle) are a much stiffer board, so not there, when comparing a lot of DSM boards to other China made boards.

Other somewhat known woodshops like Dalian Huahong Sports Tool Co., Ltd, Zhongshan Jeeping Wooden Industrial & Sport Co., Ltd, and as you said, Excel don't have a specific product I could say were this or that, the way other non Asian woodshops are a lot easier to identify, which is why I usually just put "China" when there is a "Made in China" sticker on it, but not a confirmation of where or which woodshop it comes from.


There seem like so many woodshops in China now too, finding more every other time I do a search, but as to which ones are making a lot more boards, compared to others, I don't have enough information to provide any more details.

thanks!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 28, 2023, 04:56:40 PM

.

New wood from China in the DLX thread if anyone is keen to see it, page 75 and now 76

Images from @LewFarrell from skate shop in Canada, as per the Pigeon series drop from DLX.

First post here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg4120987#msg4120987

Current (last page) here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.2250

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 01, 2023, 07:11:39 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

Last time anyone said they got one, they were still BBS, so you should be good there.

I had seen those newer boards with this and that listed with them, so didn't know but I wonder if they would reply if you asked them directly.

There were people who worked there on here before who did say they were all BBS a while back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on December 01, 2023, 10:02:46 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

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Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

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Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

Interesting they have blanks from PS Stix, Generator and Clutch all in 1 shop, pretty cool if you wanted to do a side by side comparison of all 3 brands. There's 1 brand with a M, probably a new shape from Clutch:
https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-Blank-M8-Skateboard-Deck-Teal-Stain-8-5x32-75.html#!?cc_decks=133492&c=cc_grip-tape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DanRar009 on December 02, 2023, 02:49:46 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 01, 2023, 10:02:46 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

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Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

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Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

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Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

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Interesting they have blanks from PS Stix, Generator and Clutch all in 1 shop, pretty cool if you wanted to do a side by side comparison of all 3 brands. There's 1 brand with a M, probably a new shape from Clutch:
https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-Blank-M8-Skateboard-Deck-Teal-Stain-8-5x32-75.html#!?cc_decks=133492&c=cc_grip-tape

Sweet thank you I’ll check them out as well. Looking for an 8.5 btw. Willing to do 8.38 as long as it’s got a 14.5 wheelbase

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Urtripping on December 02, 2023, 03:47:59 AM

Just wanted to day my experience on South Central boards has been fantastic

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 02, 2023, 02:39:20 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on December 02, 2023, 02:49:46 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on December 01, 2023, 10:02:46 PM

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Quote from: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

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Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

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Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

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Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

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Interesting they have blanks from PS Stix, Generator and Clutch all in 1 shop, pretty cool if you wanted to do a side by side comparison of all 3 brands. There's 1 brand with a M, probably a new shape from Clutch:
https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-Blank-M8-Skateboard-Deck-Teal-Stain-8-5x32-75.html#!?cc_decks=133492&c=cc_grip-tape

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Sweet thank you I’ll check them out as well. Looking for an 8.5 btw. Willing to do 8.38 as long as it’s got a 14.5 wheelbase

The BBS / Generator blank boards had their spec sheet up a while back, link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4016120#msg4016120


The 8.5 is a good one, 32.3 or so long with 14.5 wb, but the Generator blank in 8.38 is only 14.38 in the wheelbase, so not the usual DLX size / shape that is also used by Baker / Deathwish, DGK and some others too.

I skate both of those and have lots of them, so I like to compare them whenever I see any others too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on December 02, 2023, 08:36:07 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 02, 2023, 02:39:20 PM

Quote from: DanRar009 on December 02, 2023, 02:49:46 AM

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Quote from: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

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Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

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Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

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Interesting they have blanks from PS Stix, Generator and Clutch all in 1 shop, pretty cool if you wanted to do a side by side comparison of all 3 brands. There's 1 brand with a M, probably a new shape from Clutch:
https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-Blank-M8-Skateboard-Deck-Teal-Stain-8-5x32-75.html#!?cc_decks=133492&c=cc_grip-tape

[close]

Sweet thank you I’ll check them out as well. Looking for an 8.5 btw. Willing to do 8.38 as long as it’s got a 14.5 wheelbase

[close]

The BBS / Generator blank boards had their spec sheet up a while back, link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4016120#msg4016120


The 8.5 is a good one, 32.3 or so long with 14.5 wb, but the Generator blank in 8.38 is only 14.38 in the wheelbase, so not the usual DLX size / shape that is also used by Baker / Deathwish, DGK and some others too.

I skate both of those and have lots of them, so I like to compare them whenever I see any others too.

thank you! good stuff

i think im currently skating a generator 8.38, and im really really into it.
where can i get more?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 02, 2023, 09:34:25 PM

From the shape catalog sounds like G838 is what your riding and you should be able to get them at their site: https://skatesamples.com/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 04, 2023, 02:31:00 PM

Quote from: Ok on December 02, 2023, 08:36:07 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on December 02, 2023, 02:39:20 PM

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Quote from: DanRar009 on December 02, 2023, 02:49:46 AM

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Quote from: Phao Lo on December 01, 2023, 07:32:09 PM

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Quote from: DanRar009 on December 01, 2023, 02:03:37 AM

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Are tactics shop decks still bbs wood? Need a new board but don’t want to pay 70 bucks for one at the moment

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Not sure what size you are looking for but SoCal Skate shop has BBS blanks (blanks with G* in their name) https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape (https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G825RS-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Green-Stain-8-25x32.html#!?cc_decks=133051&c=cc_grip-tape)

[close]

Interesting they have blanks from PS Stix, Generator and Clutch all in 1 shop, pretty cool if you wanted to do a side by side comparison of all 3 brands. There's 1 brand with a M, probably a new shape from Clutch:
https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-Blank-M8-Skateboard-Deck-Teal-Stain-8-5x32-75.html#!?cc_decks=133492&c=cc_grip-tape

[close]

Sweet thank you I’ll check them out as well. Looking for an 8.5 btw. Willing to do 8.38 as long as it’s got a 14.5 wheelbase

[close]

The BBS / Generator blank boards had their spec sheet up a while back, link here:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4016120#msg4016120


The 8.5 is a good one, 32.3 or so long with 14.5 wb, but the Generator blank in 8.38 is only 14.38 in the wheelbase, so not the usual DLX size / shape that is also used by Baker / Deathwish, DGK and some others too.

I skate both of those and have lots of them, so I like to compare them whenever I see any others too.

[close]

thank you! good stuff

i think im currently skating a generator 8.38, and im really really into it.
where can i get more?

Quote from: Plan9Customs on December 02, 2023, 09:34:25 PM

From the shape catalog sounds like G838 is what your riding and you should be able to get them at their site: https://skatesamples.com/

Does it work out ok for you guys in USA to get only one or two of those boards, or it only works out well if you get five or more from the site, when you add in shipping too?


So Cal listing for that exact board (currently out of stock)

https://socalskateshop.com/SoCal-G838-Blank-Skateboard-Deck-Orange-Stain-8-38x32-125.html

8.38x32.125 SoCal G838 Blank Deck - Orange Stain
$39.95
$33.96 on sale


As for other places, the So Cal store and any shop boards that are using BBS / Generator wood, if you don't mind graphics, as per the list I had compiled here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729105#msg3729105


I know some shops change up their suppliers a bit more frequently than others, not to mention some graphics are often not wanted by some people, but if anyone else has any other shop board info besides what I have there, it would be good to update or add to that list.


For now I will post the list below, just to get a good idea where I am headed with it, but I will only update the Woodshop firt page listing, with more info as anyone else provides it.


Thanks.





Last updated as of 8th September 2023



The last "woodshop list" post will be an accumulated list of information on which woodshops are used for shop boards.

Given this could change fairly regularly, I will try to also include dates as to when this was listed, so if you are after something and see it is from years ago, chances are it might not be so current.


Shop  (Country)                            Woodshop  (month/year)

303 (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
35th Avenue (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
35th North (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
3rd Lair (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (6/2022)
Almonte Boardshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   AD   (02/2022)
AMPT Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
Atlas Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (06/2022)
ATS (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Black Market (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (12/2021)
Blackhole (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2023)
BLX Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2023)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   China   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (01/2022)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (05/2021)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix   (-2020)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (-2020)
Embark (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (12/2022)
EVO (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Faith Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   South Central   (01/2022)
Garage Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   MADRID   (05/2022)
Geometric (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
KickPush (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (02/2022)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2022)
Menu (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS     (04/2021)
Nine Times (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2021)
No Comply (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (04/2021)
Old Skull (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Pacific Drive (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Prolific Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Sixes and Sevens (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (08/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (06/2021)
Slappy's Garage (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (09/2021)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (08/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   Unknown   (02/2023)
Zumiez (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (01/2022)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on December 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM

Swim Skateboards https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all (https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all)

A mix of PS Stix and wood sourced and manufactured in Ohio.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on December 06, 2023, 11:18:07 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 04, 2023, 02:31:00 PM

The last "woodshop list" post will be an accumulated list of information on which woodshops are used for shop boards.

Given this could change fairly regularly, I will try to also include dates as to when this was listed, so if you are after something and see it is from years ago, chances are it might not be so current.


Shop  (Country)                            Woodshop  (month/year)

303 (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
35th Avenue (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
35th North (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
3rd Lair (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (6/2022)
Almonte Boardshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   AD   (02/2022)
AMPT Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2022)
Atlas Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (06/2022)
ATS (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Black Market (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (12/2021)
Blackhole (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2023)
BLX Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (05/2023)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   China   (08/2022)
Canada Skateshop (Canada)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (01/2022)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (05/2021)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   PS Stix   (-2020)
CCS (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (-2020)
Embark (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (12/2022)
EVO (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Faith Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   South Central   (01/2022)
Garage Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   MADRID   (05/2022)
Geometric (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
KickPush (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (02/2022)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
Long Beach Skate Co (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2022)
Menu (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS     (04/2021)
Nine Times (Canada)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (04/2021)
No Comply (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2022)
OCD (AU)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (04/2021)
Old Skull (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Pacific Drive (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
Prolific Skateshop (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Sixes and Sevens (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (03/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   China (unknown)   (08/2023)
Skate Warehouse (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (06/2021)
Slappy's Garage (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (09/2022)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Clutch   (09/2021)
SoCal (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (08/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   BBS   (01/2022)
Tactics (USA)   ……….   ……….   Unknown   (02/2023)
Zumiez (USA)   ……….   ……….   Prime   (01/2022)

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0hX-RMJpNd/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng== (https://www.instagram.com/p/C0hX-RMJpNd/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==)

Radio Skateshop in Pittsburg just posted new shop decks and mention they're PSstix.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 06, 2023, 07:43:37 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on December 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM

Swim Skateboards https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all (https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all)

A mix of PS Stix and wood sourced and manufactured in Ohio.

Nice.


Interesting that individual riders choose specific woodshops for their boards.

Anyone have any ideas as to which woodshop is in Ohio for this one?

https://swimskateboardco.com/products/meisjes-dan-plunkett-pro-model


DAN PLUNKETT PRO MODEL

ORIGINAL ARTWORK BY WILLEM PARRA

AVAILABLE SIZES

8.125"  X 31.65"

14.125" WHEELBASE

8.28" X 31.65"

14.125" WHEELBASE

RANDOM BOTTOM STAIN

7 PLY MAPLE

SOURCED AND MANUFACTURED IN OHIO USA  ON OUR NEW CUSTOM MOLD

STEEPER KICK AND CONCAVE


https://www.instagram.com/p/CpybkU3J3pZ/?hl=en&img_index=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 06, 2023, 07:49:55 PM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on December 06, 2023, 11:18:07 AM

Radio Skateshop in Pittsburg just posted new shop decks and mention they're PSstix.

Thanks!

Added to the list.

Also interesting for people who want the squarer shape boards too, as per the info from that post:


New shop decks now available in store/online ⚡️ 8 / 8.125 / 8.25 / 8.375 / 8.5

Made by: @professorschmitt 👨‍🔬
Squarer nose/tail

Radioskateshop.com

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on December 07, 2023, 06:44:53 AM

Vu Skateshop in Baltimore https://vuskateboardshop.com/collections/skateboard-decks/vu-skateboard-shop and
Little Whale Skateshop in Southern Maryland https://www.littlewhaleskateshop.com/ both use South Central for all their shop decks.  Great wood, and both offer shop twin tails/noses!
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/357070400_624352963128150_7910321846933028684_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=DQyP8zTcP5kAX-eW22w&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfCIs5Bv0BfvNWUSlQvcmSbHB9gA6eeMGTQGcDf8pHQkoA&oe=65761E06)
Also check out https://www.mikeduffygang.com/baltimoreboardbrewery they operate out of Charmcity Skatepark, have a low minimum run and use south central for a lot of their wood, but also have other options as well.  Give them a call an support a small east coast business!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: LewFarrell on December 07, 2023, 09:04:42 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 06, 2023, 07:43:37 PM

Quote from: Phao Lo on December 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM

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Swim Skateboards https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all (https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all)

A mix of PS Stix and wood sourced and manufactured in Ohio.

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…

Anyone have any ideas as to which woodshop is in Ohio for this one?

…

It’s Zealdor Skateboard MFG
https://instagram.com/zealdor

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 07, 2023, 07:18:20 PM

Quote from: Fast_Freddie on December 07, 2023, 06:44:53 AM

Vu Skateshop in Baltimore https://vuskateboardshop.com/collections/skateboard-decks/vu-skateboard-shop and
Little Whale Skateshop in Southern Maryland https://www.littlewhaleskateshop.com/ both use South Central for all their shop decks.  Great wood, and both offer shop twin tails/noses!
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/357070400_624352963128150_7910321846933028684_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=DQyP8zTcP5kAX-eW22w&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfCIs5Bv0BfvNWUSlQvcmSbHB9gA6eeMGTQGcDf8pHQkoA&oe=65761E06)
Also check out https://www.mikeduffygang.com/baltimoreboardbrewery they operate out of Charmcity Skatepark, have a low minimum run and use south central for a lot of their wood, but also have other options as well.  Give them a call an support a small east coast business!

Embark boards are on Clutch. Wish they did South Central! But their newest shop graphic is sick.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0W4vjFOlLK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/C0W4vjFOlLK/)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Fast_Freddie on December 08, 2023, 07:18:37 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 07, 2023, 07:18:20 PM

Embark boards are on Clutch. Wish they did South Central! But their newest shop graphic is sick.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0W4vjFOlLK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/C0W4vjFOlLK/)

Graphic is definitely dope!  But I agree, not a fan of clutch decks.  I had a hopps/quartersnacks collab deck that was an 8.1 clutch deck... thought I was going to love it, but ended up absolutely hating it... tried to ride it for a week and a half and ended up giving it away... it be like that sometimes...

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 09, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Quote from: LewFarrell on December 07, 2023, 09:04:42 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on December 06, 2023, 07:43:37 PM

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Quote from: Phao Lo on December 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM

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Swim Skateboards https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all (https://swimskateboardco.com/collections/all)

A mix of PS Stix and wood sourced and manufactured in Ohio.

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…

Anyone have any ideas as to which woodshop is in Ohio for this one?

…

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It’s Zealdor Skateboard MFG
https://instagram.com/zealdor

Thanks!


Added to the main list.


I always find it fascinating to see boards being made with CNC machines.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CobH1PaJFT1/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMXWLWpjBw/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on December 11, 2023, 04:28:58 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

Damn, this is old school. What's next, Zero?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on December 11, 2023, 06:08:48 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

What's the word on Watson boards? Description says mellow. I like mellow boards...tell me more

That OG logo is one of the few Toy graphics I'd be excited to skate.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 11, 2023, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on December 11, 2023, 06:08:48 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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What's the word on Watson boards? Description says mellow. I like mellow boards...tell me more

That OG logo is one of the few Toy graphics I'd be excited to skate.

I didn't bring an angle finder, but the top concave and the kicks were both pretty mellow, especially compared to all the BBS boards on the wall. The PS-made Toy Machine boards were pretty mellow as well, especially the 8.25s.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on December 11, 2023, 09:45:56 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 11, 2023, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: hiljentaa on December 11, 2023, 06:08:48 AM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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What's the word on Watson boards? Description says mellow. I like mellow boards...tell me more

That OG logo is one of the few Toy graphics I'd be excited to skate.

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I didn't bring an angle finder, but the top concave and the kicks were both pretty mellow, especially compared to all the BBS boards on the wall. The PS-made Toy Machine boards were pretty mellow as well, especially the 8.25s.

those ps toy 8.25s were the shit (at least in my memory).

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 11, 2023, 04:48:26 PM

Quote from: Ok on December 11, 2023, 09:45:56 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 11, 2023, 07:23:51 AM

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Quote from: hiljentaa on December 11, 2023, 06:08:48 AM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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What's the word on Watson boards? Description says mellow. I like mellow boards...tell me more

That OG logo is one of the few Toy graphics I'd be excited to skate.

[close]

I didn't bring an angle finder, but the top concave and the kicks were both pretty mellow, especially compared to all the BBS boards on the wall. The PS-made Toy Machine boards were pretty mellow as well, especially the 8.25s.

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those ps toy 8.25s were the shit (at least in my memory).

Indeed!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Kaydubbb on December 21, 2023, 05:36:05 PM

Just had a DGK 8.25 delivered, made in Mexico on the kayo corp sticker on the plastic wrap. No stickers on the board, only a single circle stamp between front truck holes, no other identifiers on the deck. BBS made?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 21, 2023, 05:38:20 PM

Quote from: Kaydubbb on December 21, 2023, 05:36:05 PM

Just had a DGK 8.25 delivered, made in Mexico on the kayo corp sticker on the plastic wrap. No stickers on the board, only a single circle stamp between front truck holes, no other identifiers on the deck. BBS made?

Yes, that is classic BBS right there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on December 22, 2023, 08:24:06 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

Toy Machine 101…..good graphics=bad wood……if they just ran the classics in PS or BBS….would be a poor man’s Eagle…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 22, 2023, 08:33:57 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on December 22, 2023, 08:24:06 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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Toy Machine 101…..good graphics=bad wood……if they just ran the classics in PS or BBS….would be a poor man’s Eagle…

Oh I was under the impression that Watson was good wood. I know that generally a lot of the TM team boards are from Chinese wood shops, though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 27, 2023, 10:26:35 PM

Sea Rat is still pressing/shaping/screening his own boards, but he now also has a “shop board” made on PS wood. Not bad at $50, either.

Not sure if that rates for this thread, but love Dom’s work so take any opportunity to shout him out.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1VcZd9PFqe/?igsh=aHAyZGxncGZuejMw

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1UNHpFLliN/?igsh=MTloNWhlOWtnNmQxdQ

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on December 27, 2023, 10:30:25 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 22, 2023, 08:33:57 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on December 22, 2023, 08:24:06 AM

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Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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Toy Machine 101…..good graphics=bad wood……if they just ran the classics in PS or BBS….would be a poor man’s Eagle…

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Oh I was under the impression that Watson was good wood. I know that generally a lot of the TM team boards are from Chinese wood shops, though.

I just hadn’t been a fan of Watson for years….too flat and dead…I think I had a cruiser board of sorts in the last decade and was not impressed…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 28, 2023, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on December 22, 2023, 08:24:06 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 10, 2023, 02:41:12 PM

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Toy Machine boards on Watson wood. Boy they’re all over the place! Still mostly seems like PS for pro models, though.

(https://i.ibb.co/hW60Zjs/IMG-2125.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Cw2BBTW/IMG-2126.jpg)

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Toy Machine 101…..good graphics=bad wood……if they just ran the classics in PS or BBS….would be a poor man’s Eagle…

Just picked up the inverse of this. Green stain, yellow graphic.

Has the USA barcode sticker, but not the Watson laser

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 30, 2023, 05:40:00 PM

@WelcomeToHell did you find the rails on your TM to be more angular and not perfectly rounded?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 30, 2023, 06:09:17 PM

Quote from: TwisT on December 30, 2023, 05:40:00 PM

@WelcomeToHell did you find the rails on your TM to be more angular and not perfectly rounded?

I didn’t buy that one, so not sure. I feel like the South Central boards I’ve ridden like 5boro have that more squared off edge. Not quite as square as the Heroin razor edge, though.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on December 30, 2023, 07:03:03 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 30, 2023, 06:09:17 PM

Quote from: TwisT on December 30, 2023, 05:40:00 PM

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@WelcomeToHell did you find the rails on your TM to be more angular and not perfectly rounded?

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I didn’t buy that one, so not sure. I feel like the South Central boards I’ve ridden like 5boro have that more squared off edge. Not quite as square as the Heroin razor edge, though.

Hmm, there’s no Watson laser so I wonder if this a a sc deck? My board is also flat in the middle

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on December 31, 2023, 11:57:15 AM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on December 27, 2023, 10:26:35 PM

Sea Rat is still pressing/shaping/screening his own boards, but he now also has a “shop board” made on PS wood. Not bad at $50, either.

Not sure if that rates for this thread, but love Dom’s work so take any opportunity to shout him out.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1VcZd9PFqe/?igsh=aHAyZGxncGZuejMw

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1UNHpFLliN/?igsh=MTloNWhlOWtnNmQxdQ

Yes, all worth posting.

I would think for small singular (just one guy) type of setups, they would either have to be putting in a lot of work, or charging a lot more to really make it worthwhile, but adding on a fairly generic product can definitely help with the bottom line as well.

That way he can still make the very special / one off type of boards that he can charge more for, as well as have more regular options at cheaper prices too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 06:55:14 AM

Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 02, 2024, 07:59:14 AM

Quote from: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 06:55:14 AM

Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

WKND "8.5th" shape
Snack
Glue - PsStix https://glueskateboards.com/collections/now/products/lock-and-key-8-5
strangelove
certain workshop/habitat boards

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on January 02, 2024, 08:10:23 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 02, 2024, 07:59:14 AM

Quote from: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 06:55:14 AM

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Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

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WKND "8.5th" shape
Snack
Glue - PsStix https://glueskateboards.com/collections/now/products/lock-and-key-8-5
strangelove
certain workshop/habitat boards

You could also add Metal boards to this. Any of those three that are the 'Sect Shape' are fairly square BBS boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 09:18:47 AM

Quote from: TwisT on January 02, 2024, 07:59:14 AM

Quote from: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 06:55:14 AM

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Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

[close]

WKND "8.5th" shape
Snack
Glue - PsStix https://glueskateboards.com/collections/now/products/lock-and-key-8-5
strangelove
certain workshop/habitat boards

I’m guessing the square tail is more common on 8.5 and usually ps stix. 8.5 is bigger than I like to go. I guess I may have to stick with the Quasi shape I like or go back to flattening out FA decks if I want square tailed bbs boards that aren’t 8.5.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 02, 2024, 09:26:27 AM

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Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

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WKND "8.5th" shape
Snack
Glue - PsStix https://glueskateboards.com/collections/now/products/lock-and-key-8-5
strangelove
certain workshop/habitat boards

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I’m guessing the square tail is more common on 8.5 and usually ps stix. 8.5 is bigger than I like to go. I guess I may have to stick with the Quasi shape I like or go back to flattening out FA decks if I want square tailed bbs boards that aren’t 8.5.

You gotta look at the shape lettering.

Ps makes 3 different ones

A,b,c. I'm 99 that A is square ish which is my shit now I guess.
Ps A shape is my absolute favorite board in 2023. FA looks like this.

B shape is like the glue forest I had one in 8.75 so fuckin fun.

C I think is the same as b but with a different WB

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 02, 2024, 01:27:32 PM

Quote from: Spaced Cadet on January 02, 2024, 09:18:47 AM

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Maybe not the best place to ask and I probably already asked the same question in the past but does anyone know of any brands that make more squared tail shapes? I really like the Quasi 8.25 14wb bbs board they make and I’ve had a few of those. The square tail with the shorter wheel base just works great for me. (Just wish they made the same shape but as a 8.38) The quasi 8.25 and 8.5 ps stix shapes I know have a pretty square tail as well.

Anyone know of some other brands besides Quasi that put out shapes with a more square tail and are preferably BBS wood? I know shape 1 FA has a square tail but they are usually too steep for my liking.

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WKND "8.5th" shape
Snack
Glue - PsStix https://glueskateboards.com/collections/now/products/lock-and-key-8-5
strangelove
certain workshop/habitat boards

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I’m guessing the square tail is more common on 8.5 and usually ps stix. 8.5 is bigger than I like to go. I guess I may have to stick with the Quasi shape I like or go back to flattening out FA decks if I want square tailed bbs boards that aren’t 8.5.

I had thought that all the Alien Workshop / Habitat / Metal boards had the wider squared off shapes right through the shape range, also all with shorter wheelbases too.

8.25" x 32.25" WB 14.25"


At least the shorter overall type boards, FA / Hockey are always around and if you are used to parking on them to flatten them out, then you have a fairly easy go to, just like I do with most other "normal concave" BBS boards with steeper kicks than I would like.


Sorry for maybe not being more helpful, but I am still not quite back to normal here, after recent weather events.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 04, 2024, 08:05:10 PM

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Updated the first post to show 2024, but if anyone has any other info re board changes or other curious things, questions or whatever, feel free to post in here.

Thanks again to everyone for helping make this thread possible.  I just put all the replies and answers in one place.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on January 04, 2024, 08:17:15 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 04, 2024, 08:05:10 PM

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Updated the first post to show 2024, but if anyone has any other info re board changes or other curious things, questions or whatever, feel free to post in here.

Thanks again to everyone for helping make this thread possible.  I just put all the replies and answers in one place.

Thank you for shepherding all this important information!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 05, 2024, 01:57:44 PM

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Scumco and Sons website showing only PS Stix and Pennswood decks right now.

Might have to check and change the listing now for 2024.



https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/josh-narvaez-no-dollar

Pennswood Acres wood.


https://scumcoandsons.com/collections/shop/products/kevin-taylor

PS Stix wood.

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I've seen Scumco mentioned in here.  I'm thinking about trying them out next.  Anyone know the wheelbase and length on the 8.125 and 8.0?

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It depends which woodshop, as they had changed a bit.

Last info had them on Control (2023), with some on BBS and PS Stix, but that was a while back now.


I would likely want to check a board in person more so than buying without looking at it, unless you will most likely be happy any which way.

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Yeah, I was specifically checking out the PS ones they have on their site.  Curious about the shapes and dimensions.

From about 8 weeks ago now:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CzZSw74przo/?img_index=6

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: sexualhelon on January 07, 2024, 12:29:26 PM

How are the skate deluxe decks? Thinking of getting one but I think I had one a while back and remember the nose/tail being kind of pointy instead of fat, if that makes sense?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 07, 2024, 02:15:38 PM

Quote from: sexualhelon on January 07, 2024, 12:29:26 PM

How are the skate deluxe decks? Thinking of getting one but I think I had one a while back and remember the nose/tail being kind of pointy instead of fat, if that makes sense?

I don't know who supplies wood - somewhere in China, but they have very good details and pics on their site, so I guess it is worth checking those listings to see the boards.


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skatedeluxe-shop


From a quick look, their popsicles seem fairly normal, middle of the road in terms of shapes, if that helps.  So not quite Baker pointy, but definitely nowhere near FA / Hockey or even Quasi blunt or squared off at all.

I think others have said their wood is decent quality too, definitely not cheap or bad, compared to any others.


This was the first listing that came up, 8.25 being the most common size too - realised it as a twin shape, but the others are all there to check and they all seem much the same shape wise.


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skatedeluxe-spider-twin-tail-8-25-skateboard-deck-black_p165635?view=manu&brand_id=429


(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/UaPddXoteArv9k73lnTsS0_qHVI=/fit-in/1500x1749/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/165635-1-skatedeluxe-SpiderTwinTail825.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Xen on January 07, 2024, 09:08:07 PM

Not sure where it fits in (team?) but the Toy Machine Twin/symmetrical deck (non-pro) is PSTix/Made in Mexico

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on January 07, 2024, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 07, 2024, 02:15:38 PM

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How are the skate deluxe decks? Thinking of getting one but I think I had one a while back and remember the nose/tail being kind of pointy instead of fat, if that makes sense?

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I don't know who supplies wood - somewhere in China, but they have very good details and pics on their site, so I guess it is worth checking those listings to see the boards.


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skatedeluxe-shop


From a quick look, their popsicles seem fairly normal, middle of the road in terms of shapes, if that helps.  So not quite Baker pointy, but definitely nowhere near FA / Hockey or even Quasi blunt or squared off at all.

I think others have said their wood is decent quality too, definitely not cheap or bad, compared to any others.


This was the first listing that came up, 8.25 being the most common size too - realised it as a twin shape, but the others are all there to check and they all seem much the same shape wise.


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skatedeluxe-spider-twin-tail-8-25-skateboard-deck-black_p165635?view=manu&brand_id=429


(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/UaPddXoteArv9k73lnTsS0_qHVI=/fit-in/1500x1749/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/165635-1-skatedeluxe-SpiderTwinTail825.jpg)

Site says "made in Spain" so I guess is safe to say HLC

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 07, 2024, 09:50:23 PM

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How are the skate deluxe decks? Thinking of getting one but I think I had one a while back and remember the nose/tail being kind of pointy instead of fat, if that makes sense?

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https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/skatedeluxe-shop

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Site says "made in Spain" so I guess is safe to say HLC

Thanks - I hadn't looked that far into it, but thought they were going through somewhere like Quarter Dist for their boards.

HLC it would be then.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 07, 2024, 09:52:27 PM

Quote from: Xen on January 07, 2024, 09:08:07 PM

Not sure where it fits in (team?) but the Toy Machine Twin/symmetrical deck (non-pro) is PSTix/Made in Mexico

That's interesting because I thought PS Stix didn't make twin boards.

The professor had said a skateboard is like a multi tool, different at both ends for a reason.

Guessing this had to change at some point, unless it might still be the same mold, just cut to be the same length.

Anyone with more info could set things straight there, I would think.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on January 08, 2024, 04:10:25 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 07, 2024, 09:52:27 PM

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Not sure where it fits in (team?) but the Toy Machine Twin/symmetrical deck (non-pro) is PSTix/Made in Mexico

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I’d imagine that the good professor saw how many people were talking about twin tails and thought it might not be a bad business decision to offer them. Also, he has said that — his own opinions aside — every skater has to find what works best for them personally.

Maybe those are factors. But who knows?


That's interesting because I thought PS Stix didn't make twin boards.

The professor had said a skateboard is like a multi tool, different at both ends for a reason.

Guessing this had to change at some point, unless it might still be the same mold, just cut to be the same length.

Anyone with more info could set things straight there, I would think.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 08, 2024, 06:08:37 AM

For you shorter wheelbase folks, just sharing, but Heart Supply makes an 8in 14in WB deck
https://www.skatepro.com/en-us/209-48026.htm

Also, their target complete has a 13.75wb. It makes sense, because they are aimed at kids. I know, nobody wants to ride department store tier wood, but it's fascinating to think that someone's perfect shape may be sitting on a target rack.

https://www.target.com/p/the-heart-supply-31-34-standard-skateboard-mr-schill/-/A-88750913#lnk=sametab

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 08, 2024, 02:56:26 PM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on January 07, 2024, 09:52:27 PM

Quote from: Xen on January 07, 2024, 09:08:07 PM

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Not sure where it fits in (team?) but the Toy Machine Twin/symmetrical deck (non-pro) is PSTix/Made in Mexico

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That's interesting because I thought PS Stix didn't make twin boards.

The professor had said a skateboard is like a multi tool, different at both ends for a reason.

Guessing this had to change at some point, unless it might still be the same mold, just cut to be the same length.

Anyone with more info could set things straight there, I would think.

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on January 08, 2024, 04:10:25 AM

I’d imagine that the good professor saw how many people were talking about twin tails and thought it might not be a bad business decision to offer them. Also, he has said that — his own opinions aside — every skater has to find what works best for them personally.

Maybe those are factors. But who knows?

Ha yeah, no doubt the view of twin boards has changed a lot in recent years, from something of a surprise addition or even somewhat of a novelty to now a serious thing to be added to a brands catalog.

I can definitely see their place in skateboarding, so it has grown from a niche market into something a lot more serious.

Trends in shape, length of wheelbase, even size of kicks has changed everything significantly in the past, so in saying that, this is no different.  Woodshops need to adapt and make boards that people want, including change up molds and make twin kick molds, even if they use them for whatever board shapes.


In saying that, I recall a board I had a while back, which seemed like it was cut the other way, eg the board was put in the shape cutting machine backwards, so although it felt nice to have a longer tail, overall it just felt weird any which way and I passed it on to someone else, who couldn't tell the difference.

From skating a few twins, I keep slipping off the nose end, as well as missing the board pick up, which was intriguing to say the least.  To get so completely used to how a board feels and skates and even just that small difference was so weird to get at first.  By the third session or so I was more used to it, but I feel more at home on a standard board.

Others now only skate twins, cause they have everything they need, which I can easily see and understand.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on January 11, 2024, 08:45:33 AM

Am I imagining it, or has Watson gone out of business? That Toy Machine deck at the top of the page says otherwise, but I'm sure I heard it, maybe on The Nine Club? And in this post Jim Gray says G&S, who used Watson, are now making their boards in-house.

edit: If it was The Nine Club it woud've been mentioned on the Ben Degros or Willy Santos episodes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C193N0vx983/?img_index=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 09:02:37 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/C19Hxqotxxs/?igsh=MWF1ZjN1YjlnanFjcQ==
V7 posted this and I know they do mostly clutch wood.
Last batch of Toy boards I got in had Watson, Ps and Clutch all mixed together.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 11, 2024, 04:40:40 PM

Quote from: fernando the skater on January 11, 2024, 08:45:33 AM

Am I imagining it, or has Watson gone out of business? That Toy Machine deck at the top of the page says otherwise, but I'm sure I heard it, maybe on The Nine Club? And in this post Jim Gray says G&S, who used Watson, are now making their boards in-house.

edit: If it was The Nine Club it woud've been mentioned on the Ben Degros or Willy Santos episodes.

Watson is said to be done / not making boards anymore, as per info from others a while back in this thread, but I did remember Sam Hitz posting something about it too, which was easier to find and repost.

From October 2023

https://www.instagram.com/p/CywUGYdJ9EW/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 11, 2024, 04:49:38 PM

Quote from: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 09:02:37 AM

7 posted this and I know they do mostly clutch wood.
Last batch of Toy boards I got in had Watson, Ps and Clutch all mixed together.

That is pretty trippy - three different woodshops doing the same board, or at least maybe more so three different woodshops supplying wood as blanks to a warehouse that puts those graphics on the boards and ships them off to where ever they may go.


I do find it interesting how even some well established brands seem to be scraping by, or maybe seem to be doing their own in house graphics with a heat transfer machine on whatever wood they can get their hands on.

Could be totally wrong as well and they are getting boards printed at the woodshops, but I am thinking it is more the delivery of blanks and they are doing it themselves with how things seem to be going at the moment.


Also I would expect that more for some other countries / continents, with their own distro and licensing agreements, but there in USA I just don't know what to think.


Were they also all mixed sizes in the wood, or was there some specific boards to specific sizes to woodshops, if that makes sense?

* Sorry just "thinking out loud" on the keyboard here right now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on January 11, 2024, 06:32:14 PM

if we had a 'balance sheet' or a 'credit' thread maybe it would all make sense....

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 08:20:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 11, 2024, 04:49:38 PM

Quote from: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 09:02:37 AM

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7 posted this and I know they do mostly clutch wood.
Last batch of Toy boards I got in had Watson, Ps and Clutch all mixed together.

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That is pretty trippy - three different woodshops doing the same board, or at least maybe more so three different woodshops supplying wood as blanks to a warehouse that puts those graphics on the boards and ships them off to where ever they may go.


I do find it interesting how even some well established brands seem to be scraping by, or maybe seem to be doing their own in house graphics with a heat transfer machine on whatever wood they can get their hands on.

Could be totally wrong as well and they are getting boards printed at the woodshops, but I am thinking it is more the delivery of blanks and they are doing it themselves with how things seem to be going at the moment.


Also I would expect that more for some other countries / continents, with their own distro and licensing agreements, but there in USA I just don't know what to think.


Were they also all mixed sizes in the wood, or was there some specific boards to specific sizes to woodshops, if that makes sense?

* Sorry just "thinking out loud" on the keyboard here right now.

The Pro boards were Ps Stix and the team / logo boards were clutch or Watson. Yes, all various sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2024, 02:16:54 AM

Quote from: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 08:20:04 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 11, 2024, 04:49:38 PM

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Quote from: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2024, 09:02:37 AM

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7 posted this and I know they do mostly clutch wood.
Last batch of Toy boards I got in had Watson, Ps and Clutch all mixed together.

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That is pretty trippy - three different woodshops doing the same board, or at least maybe more so three different woodshops supplying wood as blanks to a warehouse that puts those graphics on the boards and ships them off to where ever they may go.


I do find it interesting how even some well established brands seem to be scraping by, or maybe seem to be doing their own in house graphics with a heat transfer machine on whatever wood they can get their hands on.

Could be totally wrong as well and they are getting boards printed at the woodshops, but I am thinking it is more the delivery of blanks and they are doing it themselves with how things seem to be going at the moment.


Also I would expect that more for some other countries / continents, with their own distro and licensing agreements, but there in USA I just don't know what to think.


Were they also all mixed sizes in the wood, or was there some specific boards to specific sizes to woodshops, if that makes sense?

* Sorry just "thinking out loud" on the keyboard here right now.

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The Pro boards were Ps Stix and the team / logo boards were clutch or Watson. Yes, all various sizes.

OK, that makes more sense than totally random whatever, or all just the monster logo on random wood.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: PuffinMuffin on January 12, 2024, 04:59:43 AM

I've skated my first HLC deck, an Ethan Loy (RIP of Element) for a little less than two weeks.

First session it felt like a month-old BBS deck. It would make popping and cracking noises, and the board felt "tired". After three days the driver-side rear quarter panel fell apart and the plys separated. As if 10% of the deck was void of glue.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZrkXhtJl.png)

Some of the top plies stuck straight up, stabbing me in the ankle and shin occasionally. The nose revealed a match stick construction after the heat transfer was skated off.

(https://i.imgur.com/EB0zjsal.png)

I'm not complaining, I've had worse and only paid 30 euros. The dimensions were also all wrong. It's listed as a 14.5" wheelbase but measures 14.2. My weight is quite low and I don't huck, so it was surprising to see how fast this thing came apart.

Is this normal for HLC?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Sila on January 12, 2024, 05:17:09 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on January 12, 2024, 04:59:43 AM

I've skated my first HLC deck, an Ethan Loy (RIP of Element) for a little less than two weeks.

First session it felt like a month-old BBS deck. It would make popping and cracking noises, and the board felt "tired". After three days the driver-side rear quarter panel fell apart and the plys separated. As if 10% of the deck was void of glue.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZrkXhtJl.png)

Some of the top plies stuck straight up, stabbing me in the ankle and shin occasionally. The nose revealed a match stick construction after the heat transfer was skated off.

(https://i.imgur.com/EB0zjsal.png)

I'm not complaining, I've had worse and only paid 30 euros. The dimensions were also all wrong. It's listed as a 14.5" wheelbase but measures 14.2. My weight is quite low and I don't huck, so it was surprising to see how fast this thing came apart.

Is this normal for HLC?

I skated a few HLC boards but it was back on 2020. I really liked them. They were really snappy and lasted a while. I only got them because they were on major discount at the time too (National Board Co.) so haven't skated them since. Sucks that yours was an extremely sub par experience

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on January 12, 2024, 05:38:15 AM

Quote from: Sila on January 12, 2024, 05:17:09 AM

Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on January 12, 2024, 04:59:43 AM

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I've skated my first HLC deck, an Ethan Loy (RIP of Element) for a little less than two weeks.

First session it felt like a month-old BBS deck. It would make popping and cracking noises, and the board felt "tired". After three days the driver-side rear quarter panel fell apart and the plys separated. As if 10% of the deck was void of glue.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZrkXhtJl.png)

Some of the top plies stuck straight up, stabbing me in the ankle and shin occasionally. The nose revealed a match stick construction after the heat transfer was skated off.

(https://i.imgur.com/EB0zjsal.png)

I'm not complaining, I've had worse and only paid 30 euros. The dimensions were also all wrong. It's listed as a 14.5" wheelbase but measures 14.2. My weight is quite low and I don't huck, so it was surprising to see how fast this thing came apart.

Is this normal for HLC?

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I skated a few HLC boards but it was back on 2020. I really liked them. They were really snappy and lasted a while. I only got them because they were on major discount at the time too (National Board Co.) so haven't skated them since. Sucks that yours was an extremely sub par experience

I'd say you had bad luck. All HLC boards I skated were ok, maybe a little heavy but nothing dramatic. I skated one Jart and some Sours. I do believe that 14.2 is the only WB they make for whatever reason.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2024, 02:06:09 PM

Quote from: moonordie on January 12, 2024, 05:38:15 AM

Quote from: Sila on January 12, 2024, 05:17:09 AM

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Quote from: PuffinMuffin  on January 12, 2024, 04:59:43 AM

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I've skated my first HLC deck, an Ethan Loy (RIP of Element) for a little less than two weeks.

First session it felt like a month-old BBS deck. It would make popping and cracking noises, and the board felt "tired". After three days the driver-side rear quarter panel fell apart and the plys separated. As if 10% of the deck was void of glue.


Some of the top plies stuck straight up, stabbing me in the ankle and shin occasionally. The nose revealed a match stick construction after the heat transfer was skated off.


I'm not complaining, I've had worse and only paid 30 euros. The dimensions were also all wrong. It's listed as a 14.5" wheelbase but measures 14.2. My weight is quite low and I don't huck, so it was surprising to see how fast this thing came apart.

Is this normal for HLC?

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I skated a few HLC boards but it was back on 2020. I really liked them. They were really snappy and lasted a while. I only got them because they were on major discount at the time too (National Board Co.) so haven't skated them since. Sucks that yours was an extremely sub par experience

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I'd say you had bad luck. All HLC boards I skated were ok, maybe a little heavy but nothing dramatic. I skated one Jart and some Sours. I do believe that 14.2 is the only WB they make for whatever reason.

HLC have a standard 14.2 wheelbase on everything, or almost everything - standard from under 8 through to over 9 if I recall correctly - as per @moonordie and on their board info catalog someone had posted in the past.

Seen and skated quite a few boards from others which were HLC wood and although it wasn't quite what I prefer, they definitely didn't feel sub par at all, so I think you might have had an unfortunate issue with that one.


As for Element, their usual / original wood on BBS were all to the dimensions as listed on their catalog / websites, but the boards in other places have been different, just like this one - Element in EU is through HLC, so that same graphic here in AU is now on wood from China, which has 14.25 wb on most from 8.125 through to 8.4 or 8.5, then 14 even on the 8.6 Caples board and other differences I noticed when browsing clearance boards in outlet shops.  These dimensions are shown on top of the board itself, which is correct to the board, but not correct to the web site and other info, which is quite a pain if you are very specific to dimensions, as many are on here, myself included.

The other thing is I don't know how long that board might have been sitting around or not stored correctly as a lot of those Element boards are years old now, I think.  For the most part, boards can last a long time, if stored correctly, but some that are not will be too dry and easily snap or come apart, much like a new board delaminates if not glued correctly, but it is often harder to tell and usually if on sale, it is harder to try to check for any warranty or returns as per a new board at full price.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 12, 2024, 02:16:12 PM

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Not to change the topic, but I saw this and was wondering if anyone had seen them before or used them for boards?


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=128961.0

Too late for this one, I know, but I saw this come up today and thought it would be worth adding here in case anyone else wanted to do their own small run of boards.

USA based, just in case anyone was not sure.


https://www.instagram.com/boardcosupply/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgt-Bt0O9aH/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 14, 2024, 10:47:32 AM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304738691_back.jpg-k3WOIiP4rwKxDOGM_fB-0tRK3nc/Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck.jpg)

I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 14, 2024, 03:48:34 PM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


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I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

Guessing it would be BBS as most of them have been more recently, but the China made boards did have the same size and colour sticker, only just the country different in very small print on the last line, from the ones I saw.  Such small print even the other guy working in the shop missed it, until I pointed it out to him, as I couldn't read it (didn't have glasses on) but I knew it was there.  Also I could be mistaken but I seem to recall the China made boards, or at least the couple I saw had the sticker over the bottom bolts, not the top.

That by itself is definitely not enough to go on though - given they could have someone put the sticker in the wrong place on any given day in either woodshop / warehouse.


Even the country bought from, be it USA or EU or other, I have asked but it seems they are very specific with their boards, wood and whatever else, no licence deals, all through their main USA location, but some wood from BBS, some from USA for a few runs, then others from China.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 14, 2024, 03:59:54 PM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


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I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

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Guessing it would be BBS as most of them have been more recently, but the China made boards did have the same size and colour sticker, only just the country different in very small print on the last line, from the ones I saw.  Such small print even the other guy working in the shop missed it, until I pointed it out to him, as I couldn't read it (didn't have glasses on) but I knew it was there.  Also I could be mistaken but I seem to recall the China made boards, or at least the couple I saw had the sticker over the bottom bolts, not the top.

That by itself is definitely not enough to go on though - given they could have someone put the sticker in the wrong place on any given day in either woodshop / warehouse.


Even the country bought from, be it USA or EU or other, I have asked but it seems they are very specific with their boards, wood and whatever else, no licence deals, all through their main USA location, but some wood from BBS, some from USA for a few runs, then others from China.

Thank you for this!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on January 14, 2024, 10:08:41 PM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304738691_back.jpg-k3WOIiP4rwKxDOGM_fB-0tRK3nc/Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck.jpg)

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I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

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Guessing it would be BBS as most of them have been more recently, but the China made boards did have the same size and colour sticker, only just the country different in very small print on the last line, from the ones I saw.  Such small print even the other guy working in the shop missed it, until I pointed it out to him, as I couldn't read it (didn't have glasses on) but I knew it was there.  Also I could be mistaken but I seem to recall the China made boards, or at least the couple I saw had the sticker over the bottom bolts, not the top.

That by itself is definitely not enough to go on though - given they could have someone put the sticker in the wrong place on any given day in either woodshop / warehouse.


Even the country bought from, be it USA or EU or other, I have asked but it seems they are very specific with their boards, wood and whatever else, no licence deals, all through their main USA location, but some wood from BBS, some from USA for a few runs, then others from China.

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Thank you for this!

I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 16, 2024, 04:07:35 PM

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Fixing a warped deck.

I thought I had put this up somewhere on here before, but I can't find it so at least here it has a home and I can direct people back to this thread, given it is anything about boards, decks, wood, etc.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CwFRNt8ppDJ/


Warped board fix

When I got a couple of warped boards recently, I knew what I had to do again, as I had done before, with weight and pressure on the opposite sides to make the boards sit the other way for long enough to bend them straight again.

I have done this before, but took this process ad fine tuned it a bit more, with all the small bits of wood I cut up to use.

The main thing is sitting the right size pieces under the opposing corners and then sitting two more pieces on the alternate top sides which create the bend I need to flex the board the other way.

Then I put half a dozen or more normal old boards on top of the one warped board and then whatever weight on top of all that, such as some solid bricks.

Depending on how badly warped the board is, a few days to a week will usually have a fair result, a couple of weeks great if it is colder or really badly warped.

I still haven't found a board I couldn't fix and some boards that had warped have stayed straight for years now, so I am pretty happy with this process.

The couple of blanks and then another board in the last month have all come up nicely after about a week each.

The bit of wood I cut up was from a pallet, so no cost and just some time to make them different sizes.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: baustin on January 17, 2024, 06:26:17 AM

Does anyone know the full dimensions of Magenta 8.0 and 8.125 boards these days? Tactics measurements are all over the place and Magenta/ToA seem to only give width which is honestly infuriating in 2024. I did also dm Magenta (like a man) but haven’t heard back yet unfortunately.

Additionally would like to know if the shapes are consistent across the Theories brands or if they vary.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on January 17, 2024, 08:44:07 AM

Just realized that Player (HLC) is not on the list. Also is a brand without thar much info. Anybody knows who owns it?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lamfordie on January 17, 2024, 08:47:43 AM

Does anyone know what woodshop LB Skate Co Shop uses?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 17, 2024, 09:43:59 AM

Quote from: lamfordie on January 17, 2024, 08:47:43 AM

Does anyone know what woodshop LB Skate Co Shop uses?

They mainly use Clutch, but will fill in gaps with DSM

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: MxsDx on January 17, 2024, 10:44:27 AM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304738691_back.jpg-k3WOIiP4rwKxDOGM_fB-0tRK3nc/Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck.jpg)

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I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

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Guessing it would be BBS as most of them have been more recently, but the China made boards did have the same size and colour sticker, only just the country different in very small print on the last line, from the ones I saw.  Such small print even the other guy working in the shop missed it, until I pointed it out to him, as I couldn't read it (didn't have glasses on) but I knew it was there.  Also I could be mistaken but I seem to recall the China made boards, or at least the couple I saw had the sticker over the bottom bolts, not the top.

That by itself is definitely not enough to go on though - given they could have someone put the sticker in the wrong place on any given day in either woodshop / warehouse.


Even the country bought from, be it USA or EU or other, I have asked but it seems they are very specific with their boards, wood and whatever else, no licence deals, all through their main USA location, but some wood from BBS, some from USA for a few runs, then others from China.

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Thank you for this!

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I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

I've skated both the China pressed and BBS Primitives and liked them both. Can also confirm that the stickers are the same with the exception of small print indicating county of origin.  Do any companies other then Primitive use the same 8.38 shape (either BBS or China wood)? It's one of my all time favorites.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 17, 2024, 04:47:58 PM

Quote from: moonordie on January 17, 2024, 08:44:07 AM

Just realized that Player (HLC) is not on the list. Also is a brand without thar much info. Anybody knows who owns it?

Woodshop list updated.

The internet connection here or maybe even the Slap forum link / server / connectivity has been doing some funny things and I often don't get through or it shows up as server busy, etc.

At least I got that Player listing updated, but other things might take a while longer, eg questions about boards and things.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 17, 2024, 04:56:17 PM

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The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:


(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304738691_back.jpg-k3WOIiP4rwKxDOGM_fB-0tRK3nc/Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck.jpg)

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I just ordered a Miles Silvas deck wth the same sticker on the nose. Does the sticker mean the board is BBS? I could not find an image online where I could zoom enough. tia

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Guessing it would be BBS as most of them have been more recently, but the China made boards did have the same size and colour sticker, only just the country different in very small print on the last line, from the ones I saw.  Such small print even the other guy working in the shop missed it, until I pointed it out to him, as I couldn't read it (didn't have glasses on) but I knew it was there.  Also I could be mistaken but I seem to recall the China made boards, or at least the couple I saw had the sticker over the bottom bolts, not the top.

That by itself is definitely not enough to go on though - given they could have someone put the sticker in the wrong place on any given day in either woodshop / warehouse.


Even the country bought from, be it USA or EU or other, I have asked but it seems they are very specific with their boards, wood and whatever else, no licence deals, all through their main USA location, but some wood from BBS, some from USA for a few runs, then others from China.

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Thank you for this!

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I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

Board arrived today. "Made in Mexico"
Nose and tail have concave! Is the China-made board completely flat on the tips? The Silvas I got is 8.25", 14" wb with almost equally long nose and tail. Feels perfect standing on it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 17, 2024, 05:24:45 PM

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I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

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Board arrived today. "Made in Mexico"
Nose and tail have concave! Is the China-made board completely flat on the tips? The Silvas I got is 8.25", 14" wb with almost equally long nose and tail. Feels perfect standing on it.

Stoked for you!

The China made boards I stood on had flat faces on the kicks and didn't have the "spoon concave" the way BBS does, so at least that should be a plus for you there.

I tend to go on about it a whole lot, but that is why I really only ride BBS boards, as they just feel like home for me now.

The other boards hold up fine and others really like them and yes I can even skate them if that was all there is, but I am very much a creature of habit and prefer something that is comfortable, over anything else, with even half the BBS boards I stand on being too steep for me, but I am used to picking and choosing, so never run short on wood.


* That board might be more popular now if he won SOTY as well, but I was going to say, get some more if you know they are what you want, for wood, shape, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 17, 2024, 05:40:24 PM

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I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

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Board arrived today. "Made in Mexico"
Nose and tail have concave! Is the China-made board completely flat on the tips? The Silvas I got is 8.25", 14" wb with almost equally long nose and tail. Feels perfect standing on it.

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Stoked for you!

The China made boards I stood on had flat faces on the kicks and didn't have the "spoon concave" the way BBS does, so at least that should be a plus for you there.

I tend to go on about it a whole lot, but that is why I really only ride BBS boards, as they just feel like home for me now.

The other boards hold up fine and others really like them and yes I can even skate them if that was all there is, but I am very much a creature of habit and prefer something that is comfortable, over anything else, with even half the BBS boards I stand on being too steep for me, but I am used to picking and choosing, so never run short on wood.


* That board might be more popular now if he won SOTY as well, but I was going to say, get some more if you know they are what you want, for wood, shape, etc.

The board was on sale too! I am ordering 3-4 more tomorrow. It is from a legit skateshop, so no guilt there. I think the decks with completely flat tips should not last as long. The (even the slightest) concave should contribute to rigidity. Having completely flat segments, the board relies on the glue within those regions, causing it to deteriorate earlier. At least this is my theory. I will run a static simulation tomorrow as an experiment. It should be good enough to prove my point haha. I will post the results here with diagrams and all.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 18, 2024, 05:21:39 AM

Ok, so I have been ill and I did this lazy simulation on a board which I modelled some time ago using digital calipers and tape measure.
The board is a decent approximation of the SOUR 8.18" deck, which I have been skating the last 4 years or so. It has a 14.25 ish wheelbase and the overall length is just short of 32". Nose and tail are almost similar in length. For the purpose of this study I used the nose, as this is a bit longer than the tail, and would make the results more exaggerated. I used two types of board design: A board with concave tips which has a 2500 mm radius concave on the nose, and a board with flat tips which is completely flat on the nose.
The purpose of this simulation is to see if the slight spoon concave on BBS boards adds rigidity to the deck. My initial assumption (and general feeling skating these decks) is that it certainly does. Lets see..

Parameters:
Loads: 500 N force, as this will approximate to ~50 kg. I applied the load on the end of the nose, as seen in the related image.

(https://i.ibb.co/Fq21L0Q/Load.png) (https://ibb.co/7NPDdR3)

Fixtures: I created two faces where the baseplates would sit, and fixed those faces. I know this is not the best way to do it, but I said earlier that this is a lazy study. I would need a better machine if I wanted to add the trucks to the analysis.

(https://i.ibb.co/WFjgyGD/Fixtures.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

Mesh: 2.29 mm and 0.45 mm max. and min element size respectively.

(https://i.ibb.co/6RY2rSQ/Mesh.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

I used an arbitrary material (steel), as the material is irrelevant to the analysis. We are looking at how the geometry influences the results. With this in mind, the results will only be able to show trends.


Results:

Looking at the displacement (flex) plots, the board with concave tips seems to flex less than the board with the completely flat tips.

(https://i.ibb.co/421jd2t/Displacement-concave-tips.png) (https://ibb.co/0KsftK2)
(https://i.ibb.co/0CYXsjx/Displacement-flat-tips.png) (https://ibb.co/5rs9KWP)

However, according to the stress plots, the board with the concave tips develops higher peak stress around the baseplate. This could be an artefact of the improper fixture, but also it could be that my design promotes stress concentrations around the baseplate region.

(https://i.ibb.co/WVB8ks3/Stress-concave-tips.png) (https://ibb.co/RjQr37S)
(https://i.ibb.co/RC2gXng/Stress-flat-tips.png) (https://ibb.co/LCS0Tw0)


Conclusion:
If we base our decision on the displacement information, then my hypothesis (that the slight concave on the tips adds some type of rigidity and prevent wood deterioration) is correct. However, we should also keep in mind the information provided by the stress plots, which is contradicting. While I personally believe it is my bad board design that causes the high stresses on the baseplate corners and that the displacement plots are more realistic, we should njot completely discard the stress plots.

Future work:
When I have access to a more powerful machine, I will try to remember to run a more advanced study which will include a truck assembly. I could even add some torque forces and other directional loads to more accurately mimic a shoe stepping on the board.
               

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on January 18, 2024, 12:23:32 PM

Would a digitized model of a real board help? I have access to an EinScan 3d setup and though about scanning Decks multiple times already. Maybe you could try using a photogrammetrie tool like meshroom. In both cases there would be some occlusion though at least with a simple setup.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 18, 2024, 02:10:23 PM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on January 18, 2024, 12:23:32 PM

Would a digitized model of a real board help? I have access to an EinScan 3d setup and though about scanning Decks multiple times already. Maybe you could try using a photogrammetrie tool like meshroom. In both cases there would be some occlusion though at least with a simple setup.

I have access to several 3d scanners at work, and we use polyworks to stich surfaces. If you can send a file, that would be awesome. We could then compare difderent models.
I think my cad model is pretty accurate but might still be slightly off compared to a real skateboard. Mainly because the simulation was done on a solid model and did not take into account the wood plies that the board is normally made of or fatigue of the glue. Also, I left out the units of the readings. The deflection is expressed in mm and stress in MPa.
This means that the difference in flex is only 0.003 mm haha

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 18, 2024, 02:39:08 PM

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I have access to several 3d scanners at work, and we use polyworks to stich surfaces. If you can send a file, that would be awesome. We could then compare difderent models.
I think my cad model is pretty accurate but might still be slightly off compared to a real skateboard. Mainly because the simulation was done on a solid model and did not take into account the wood plies that the board is normally made of or fatigue of the glue. Also, I left out the units of the readings. The deflection is expressed in mm and stress in MPa.
This means that the difference in flex is only 0.003 mm haha

That's rad!!!

I gotta get going now, but want to have a better look at this when I got a moment.

Nice work.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Cesarr4e on January 20, 2024, 12:40:11 AM

Hey guys! Sorry if this has been discussed before, but what about the DLX brands pressing boards in china for outside US dist? Here in western Europe the new china made DLX wood is being sold in multiple skateshops.

Thanks for all the effort!!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 20, 2024, 02:22:14 PM

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Hey guys! Sorry if this has been discussed before, but what about the DLX brands pressing boards in china for outside US dist? Here in western Europe the new china made DLX wood is being sold in multiple skateshops.

Thanks for all the effort!!

You are right!

I have been keeping such a close eye on the other thread and waiting for more info on the boards themselves I hadn't posted about it here in this thread.


Still waiting on more info and to see what they look and feel like when they do arrive here in Australia too, but for anything else this thread is nine pages of interesting reading, some more recent info very informative, compared to a few of the earlier thoughts, where I was wrong with assuming things too.


DLX boards made in China thread

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=127113.0



Basically the current drops and others moving forward will be a mix of wood from BBS (Mexico) and China, with the warning sticker having almost the same info and look only the "Made in..." bottom line is different.

From what I have read, the boards made in China are single press, so no stamp I through to IV, all about the same as a III or IV type board, so maybe a little more mellow on average, but all made to the same mold, some spoon shaping in the kicks so they don't feel like other brands that have generic boards from China, compared to their other boards, also from BBS, with epoxy so they are said to hold up a little more in the stiffness department too.

There are lines from each DLX brand that have not changed at all, still on BBS wood, such as the Antihero eagles, Real ovals, Krooked eyes, as well as some other specific shapes and sizes, or even some boards for certain team riders, who may have said they don't want their name on wood from China, but any which way, they are clearly labelled so you know what you are getting.

The few people who have skated the boards already have favourable things to say about them too, so I am not at all worried that I may not be getting BBS boards in future DLX drops here, but everyone has to make up their own mind about them and as said, I still have not seen or ridden one to really compare to all the other DLX boards I usually ride.


I think that is about it for now, but at least the other thread has more info and I wasn't going to try to run more info here until that thread has been thoroughly exhausted of information or people stop posting in there.

As always, I appreciate anyone who has any questions, comments, requests or other info to post here - this is all thanks you you and I just try to compile the info in one place - first page, first post, etc.



So far it seems to be like this:


DLX - USA - BBS only, but may be some from China at some point (no other info as yet)

DLX - rest of world including Canada, EU, AU, etc - mix of BBS and China, maybe more from China moving forward, but again no other info as yet.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on January 23, 2024, 07:42:10 AM

Anyone know which woodshop Ultra corp uses?  They have a 8.06 that caught my eye.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2024, 02:07:01 PM

Quote from: Thebird on January 23, 2024, 07:42:10 AM

Anyone know which woodshop Ultra corp uses?  They have a 8.06 that caught my eye.

Never heard of them before.

From looking them up, being around since 2015 or so and seem to have some good shapes, but no other info on wood, besides saying Made in USA, but that could easily be more likely printed in USA and made in Mexico or elsewhere, eg BBS or Clutch or something else, or one of the smaller USA woodshops that don't make a whole lot of boards, but can easily supply a smaller operation like this one.

I would suggest contacting them to ask and then posting here so I can add it to the woodshop thread too, but I already like the fact that they post dimensions and info on the boards in their shop listings too.



https://www.instagram.com/ultracorp_skateboards/


https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/pages/about-us

About us
Ultra Corp is a skateboarder owned and operated company, with an emphasis on providing our customers with the highest quality in hard and soft goods. All of our decks are made in the U.S. using East Coast Maple wood. Thank you for your interest in Ultra Corp Skateboards and please check back for more video and product updates.

Ultra Corp Skateboards
Located in Los Angeles, Ca
[email protected]



https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/products/brett-sube-aloha-fish-8-06-x-31-75in

Brett Sube Aloha Fish

8.06” x 31.75”

Wheelbase - 14.1”

Art by: Brett Sube

(https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/cdn/shop/files/911E1AB1-81A9-4568-AB58-34B1A11DCE52_large.png?v=1702791323)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on January 23, 2024, 02:18:35 PM

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Tell me this isn't the Krooked Sweatpants deck...



https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/9-8-mike-york-for-ultra-corp


9.8” x 32.06”

Wheelbase - 14.37”


(https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/cdn/shop/files/94E8104A-42F4-48E2-92B3-EECD84CF4EFD_large.png)


https://www.instagram.com/ultracorp_skateboards/p/C1UvpmqpjCN/

https://www.instagram.com/p/C1UvpmqpjCN/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Esquivel on January 23, 2024, 03:42:02 PM

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I had a Silvas board with that same sticker style/location and it was made in China. One of the best boards ever.
Have the same one in ice, I'll post a pic later.

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Board arrived today. "Made in Mexico"
Nose and tail have concave! Is the China-made board completely flat on the tips? The Silvas I got is 8.25", 14" wb with almost equally long nose and tail. Feels perfect standing on it.

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Stoked for you!

The China made boards I stood on had flat faces on the kicks and didn't have the "spoon concave" the way BBS does, so at least that should be a plus for you there.

I tend to go on about it a whole lot, but that is why I really only ride BBS boards, as they just feel like home for me now.

The other boards hold up fine and others really like them and yes I can even skate them if that was all there is, but I am very much a creature of habit and prefer something that is comfortable, over anything else, with even half the BBS boards I stand on being too steep for me, but I am used to picking and choosing, so never run short on wood.


* That board might be more popular now if he won SOTY as well, but I was going to say, get some more if you know they are what you want, for wood, shape, etc.

So, I did order two more decks from a different shop (UK-based, same as the other shop) and the boards arrived today.

These boards are actually made in China!!!

Some details:
The Mexico-made board is   8.25" width, 14" WB, 6.8" Nose and 6.7" Tail with 31.915" Length.
The China-made boards are 8.25" width, 14" WB, 7" Nose and   6.75" Tail with 31.85" Length.

All boards have the exact same graphic underneath, and seem to be cut using the same outline. The nose is not too square but not as pointy as I would prefer, with the tail having a normal taper. The nose is steeper than the tail. The China-made boards are thinner than the Mexico-made board (I could notice just by taking the boards out of the box).

Despite the positive comments by other posters on here, and despite the overall build quality which is absolutely amazing, I am a bit bummed on the China boards just because I want the nose and tail to be as similar as possible. I fear that these will feel slightly like an FA deck (steep shovel nose + small, pointy tail). To end on a positive note, all boards DO have a spoon-type nose and tail with a little concave and for this reason they DO NOT feel like toys when I step on them. Again, build quality feels perfect on all boards.
Below I added images of the decks and the stickers with the dims and location of manufacture. All other stickers in the packaging are exactly the same and are positioned in the same places, bar the loose Primitive sticker.

(https://i.ibb.co/N6r4S6s/20240123-184828.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z6SZm6V)
(https://i.ibb.co/71dkgvS/20240123-184844.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6W7XvYy)
(https://i.ibb.co/2tkYby2/20240123-190157.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Sn37LPT)
(https://i.ibb.co/rGf2T5J/20240123-190229.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbq4N8t)
(https://i.ibb.co/fHZPfYh/20240123-190243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6wRWSp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on January 23, 2024, 07:29:52 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on January 23, 2024, 02:07:01 PM

Quote from: Thebird on January 23, 2024, 07:42:10 AM

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Anyone know which woodshop Ultra corp uses?  They have a 8.06 that caught my eye.

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Never heard of them before.

From looking them up, being around since 2015 or so and seem to have some good shapes, but no other info on wood, besides saying Made in USA, but that could easily be more likely printed in USA and made in Mexico or elsewhere, eg BBS or Clutch or something else, or one of the smaller USA woodshops that don't make a whole lot of boards, but can easily supply a smaller operation like this one.

I would suggest contacting them to ask and then posting here so I can add it to the woodshop thread too, but I already like the fact that they post dimensions and info on the boards in their shop listings too.



https://www.instagram.com/ultracorp_skateboards/


https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/pages/about-us

About us
Ultra Corp is a skateboarder owned and operated company, with an emphasis on providing our customers with the highest quality in hard and soft goods. All of our decks are made in the U.S. using East Coast Maple wood. Thank you for your interest in Ultra Corp Skateboards and please check back for more video and product updates.

Ultra Corp Skateboards
Located in Los Angeles, Ca
[email protected]



https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/products/brett-sube-aloha-fish-8-06-x-31-75in

Brett Sube Aloha Fish

8.06” x 31.75”

Wheelbase - 14.1”

Art by: Brett Sube

(https://ultracorpskateboards.myshopify.com/cdn/shop/files/911E1AB1-81A9-4568-AB58-34B1A11DCE52_large.png?v=1702791323)

I emailed them.  I'll let you know as soon as I hear back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: the_dangery_bois on January 24, 2024, 05:53:35 AM

Brand X bought American Nomad.  It looks like they would be making their decks at ps stix

https://brand-x-toxic.com/collections/american-nomad (https://brand-x-toxic.com/collections/american-nomad)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on January 24, 2024, 06:30:21 AM

Quote from: RembrantQeinstein on January 24, 2024, 05:53:35 AM

Brand X bought American Nomad.  It looks like they would be making their decks at ps stix

https://brand-x-toxic.com/collections/american-nomad (https://brand-x-toxic.com/collections/american-nomad)

• Decks designed, pressed, printed, finished and shipped from Southern California, USA

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: the_dangery_bois on January 24, 2024, 11:11:17 AM

It says that on all most of their listings, but in the description it says:
Material: 7-ply, Canadian Hardrock Maple (imported from Canada and pressed in Baja, California, Mexico by legendary deck maker, The Professor, Paul Schmitt
High-quality, amazing hand-done screen-printed graphics
Decks designed, hand-painted, finished and shipped from SoCal, USA

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: jums on January 24, 2024, 06:15:42 PM

Board company measurements b so off… I was curious and measured my current stash… two Aprils, an 8.38 and an 8.5. Two DLX 8.38s, and an 8.6 SC Dressen I got about 4 years ago.

The 8.38 April is really 8.125 WB and length is slightly shorter than listed. This one is kind of similar to a DLX 8.38. Nose and tail have a similar shape and the kicks and concave are the same.

8.5 is really 8.25 ditto with the WB and length. Ugly ass shape too… wide stubby tail and wide square’ish nose. Gross.

The two DLX 8.38 are really 8.25, 32” exactly and the WB is the only accurate measurement at 14.5”.

The 8.6 Dressen is actually 8.25 lol, WB says 14.623 and is actually 14.5, and the length is 32”… sticker says 32.25

I know this small sample size doesn’t represent every manufacturer, but it seems like you need to buy a size up to get the size you want.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 24, 2024, 10:16:00 PM

For the CA bay area skaters, Skate Works uses BBS for their latest run of shop decks per their IG post

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2ffU8zJquh/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

$45 too which is pretty affordable given the price of decks nowadays

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on February 01, 2024, 12:36:35 PM

Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2024, 09:13:14 PM

Quote from: Thebird on January 23, 2024, 07:42:10 AM

Anyone know which woodshop Ultra corp uses?  They have a 8.06 that caught my eye.

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From someone asking about Ultra corp in the woodshop thread, I had to check and found a couple of boards that could go here.  Anyone know what wood they are using or seen them before??

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I ordered the Mike York and was pleasantly surprised it was south central. Not sure about the rest of the boards but I would assume they only used one woodshop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 01, 2024, 10:08:36 PM

Quote from: Thebird on February 01, 2024, 12:36:35 PM

Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

Theories were using BBS for a while, then Clutch during harder times, then back on BBS but the more recent ones have again been Clutch, so I really wouldn't know now exactly who they are using.

Best thing is checking the top of the board - a letter / number stamped into the front bolts area is Clutch, a single dimple dot is BBS, at least going by basic things.  Often the letter / number combo can be covered by a size sticker, but not for every board.

That is the best bet right now as far as those boards.


As said, Ultra Corp is most likely all on South Central wood.  I have almost no experience with that woodshop, so couldn't tell you anything more, but people on here like it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 02:11:40 AM

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Did someone say Alltimers was not on BBS wood anymore?

There was something from them not too long ago, late last year with BBS wood, but they could have changed since then, or at least in different parts of the world, they could be on different wood, vs BBS in USA.


Also this was from four weeks ago, company called The Space Program, boards from Generator (BBS) maybe with a smaller more homie type feel, but I didn't look into it that closely.


https://www.instagram.com/the__space__program/


https://www.instagram.com/p/C1uayrhxtsS/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 07:41:29 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 01, 2024, 10:08:36 PM

Quote from: Thebird on February 01, 2024, 12:36:35 PM

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Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

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Theories were using BBS for a while, then Clutch during harder times, then back on BBS but the more recent ones have again been Clutch, so I really wouldn't know now exactly who they are using.

Best thing is checking the top of the board - a letter / number stamped into the front bolts area is Clutch, a single dimple dot is BBS, at least going by basic things.  Often the letter / number combo can be covered by a size sticker, but not for every board.

That is the best bet right now as far as those boards.


As said, Ultra Corp is most likely all on South Central wood.  I have almost no experience with that woodshop, so couldn't tell you anything more, but people on here like it.

Yup, I just pulled the sticker off and it has the dimple.  It's BBS.  I'm so bummed, the other deck is so flat - that is what I thought I was going to get.

On a side note, all of my emails to Ultracorp got kicked back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 02:19:03 PM

Quote from: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 07:41:29 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 01, 2024, 10:08:36 PM

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Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

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Theories were using BBS for a while, then Clutch during harder times, then back on BBS but the more recent ones have again been Clutch, so I really wouldn't know now exactly who they are using.

Best thing is checking the top of the board - a letter / number stamped into the front bolts area is Clutch, a single dimple dot is BBS, at least going by basic things.  Often the letter / number combo can be covered by a size sticker, but not for every board.

That is the best bet right now as far as those boards.


As said, Ultra Corp is most likely all on South Central wood.  I have almost no experience with that woodshop, so couldn't tell you anything more, but people on here like it.

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Yup, I just pulled the sticker off and it has the dimple.  It's BBS.  I'm so bummed, the other deck is so flat - that is what I thought I was going to get.

On a side note, all of my emails to Ultracorp got kicked back.

I guess it is just down to the different molds used by woodshops, so even the same board size could have been made on a flatter mold or on a steeper mold, as well as four boards per press, so some will be steeper and some not as steep in every stack.  This still would not account for two boards being polar opposites though - definitely different woodshops or different molds there I would think.

Some of the lesser companies might just get what they are given in that regard too, but I think usually the bigger ones can choose and have a very specific product, rather than just the old "This graphic goes on whatever wood you got there" type of thing.

Also on the side note of ply stains or different layups, Generator has only a top and bottom random stain, for all their generic boards.  Other companies can make different things, eg everything a certain colour top, or some stained layers here or there through the boards, eg DLX used to have two top and two bottom stains, usually opposite colours side by side so they really stand out.



Woodshop list updated:


Ultra Corp - South Central

The Space Program - BBS (Generator)

American Nomad - PS Stix


DLX - now both BBS and China - marked on the warning sticker where they come from

Antihero / Anti hero
Krooked
Real

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 02, 2024, 02:33:26 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 02:19:03 PM

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Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

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Theories were using BBS for a while, then Clutch during harder times, then back on BBS but the more recent ones have again been Clutch, so I really wouldn't know now exactly who they are using.

Best thing is checking the top of the board - a letter / number stamped into the front bolts area is Clutch, a single dimple dot is BBS, at least going by basic things.  Often the letter / number combo can be covered by a size sticker, but not for every board.

That is the best bet right now as far as those boards.


As said, Ultra Corp is most likely all on South Central wood.  I have almost no experience with that woodshop, so couldn't tell you anything more, but people on here like it.

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Yup, I just pulled the sticker off and it has the dimple.  It's BBS.  I'm so bummed, the other deck is so flat - that is what I thought I was going to get.

On a side note, all of my emails to Ultracorp got kicked back.

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I guess it is just down to the different molds used by woodshops, so even the same board size could have been made on a flatter mold or on a steeper mold, as well as four boards per press, so some will be steeper and some not as steep in every stack.  This still would not account for two boards being polar opposites though - definitely different woodshops or different molds there I would think.

Some of the lesser companies might just get what they are given in that regard too, but I think usually the bigger ones can choose and have a very specific product, rather than just the old "This graphic goes on whatever wood you got there" type of thing.

Also on the side note of ply stains or different layups, Generator has only a top and bottom random stain, for all their generic boards.  Other companies can make different things, eg everything a certain colour top, or some stained layers here or there through the boards, eg DLX used to have two top and two bottom stains, usually opposite colours side by side so they really stand out.



Woodshop list updated:


Ultra Corp - South Central

The Space Program - BBS (Generator)

American Nomad - PS Stix


DLX - now both BBS and China - marked on the warning sticker where they come from

Antihero / Anti hero
Krooked
Real

Don’t forget There/Unity under DLX.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 03:17:18 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 02, 2024, 02:33:26 PM

Don’t forget There/Unity under DLX.

Last check there was no Unity product and their site / domain link from DLX is not working.


The There brand site has a lot of stock on sale right now as well, so maybe they are not doing as well as hoped.


https://www.thereskateboards.com/


Still good DLX wood, but also guessing the theme and graphics are not as widely known or understood.  Someone the other day asked what was up with There as a company - not a particularly open minded individual to say the least, so I politely answered in broad terms, but I almost feel like old mate was trying to provoke a reply he could argue.  Whatever dude - I am not down to really talk let alone fight for anything when you are going to be like that.


But you are right, There is listed as China wood now too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 02, 2024, 03:39:17 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 03:17:18 PM

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Don’t forget There/Unity under DLX.

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Agreed. No use taking the bait in a situation like that!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 06:12:02 PM

OK, so if Ultracorp is South Central, how are the South Central shapes?  Pretty flat kicks and concave?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 06:21:18 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 02:19:03 PM

Quote from: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 07:41:29 AM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 01, 2024, 10:08:36 PM

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Quote from: Thebird on February 01, 2024, 12:36:35 PM

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Anyone know if Theories uses more than one woodshop?  My son recently got an 8" Walton deck, and is so mellow in the concave and kicks, almost like an early 2000s Crail.  I liked it so much I ordered an 8.125 Umbrella deck, and the concave and kicks are way steeper.  I'm pretty bummed.  Thinking it may be another shop because his has 4 dyed layers, while mine only has two.

[close]

Theories were using BBS for a while, then Clutch during harder times, then back on BBS but the more recent ones have again been Clutch, so I really wouldn't know now exactly who they are using.

Best thing is checking the top of the board - a letter / number stamped into the front bolts area is Clutch, a single dimple dot is BBS, at least going by basic things.  Often the letter / number combo can be covered by a size sticker, but not for every board.

That is the best bet right now as far as those boards.


As said, Ultra Corp is most likely all on South Central wood.  I have almost no experience with that woodshop, so couldn't tell you anything more, but people on here like it.

[close]

Yup, I just pulled the sticker off and it has the dimple.  It's BBS.  I'm so bummed, the other deck is so flat - that is what I thought I was going to get.

On a side note, all of my emails to Ultracorp got kicked back.

[close]

I guess it is just down to the different molds used by woodshops, so even the same board size could have been made on a flatter mold or on a steeper mold, as well as four boards per press, so some will be steeper and some not as steep in every stack.  This still would not account for two boards being polar opposites though - definitely different woodshops or different molds there I would think.

Some of the lesser companies might just get what they are given in that regard too, but I think usually the bigger ones can choose and have a very specific product, rather than just the old "This graphic goes on whatever wood you got there" type of thing.

Also on the side note of ply stains or different layups, Generator has only a top and bottom random stain, for all their generic boards.  Other companies can make different things, eg everything a certain colour top, or some stained layers here or there through the boards, eg DLX used to have two top and two bottom stains, usually opposite colours side by side so they really stand out.



Woodshop list updated:


Ultra Corp - South Central

The Space Program - BBS (Generator)

American Nomad - PS Stix


DLX - now both BBS and China - marked on the warning sticker where they come from

Antihero / Anti hero
Krooked
Real

Also, the 8" Theories definitely has more flex (it's not PS).  Does that soynd like Clutch?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: schralp pal on February 02, 2024, 09:29:06 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 02, 2024, 02:11:40 AM

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Did someone say Alltimers was not on BBS wood anymore?

There was something from them not too long ago, late last year with BBS wood, but they could have changed since then, or at least in different parts of the world, they could be on different wood, vs BBS in USA.

I thought my recent nvs alltimers was bbs and then rode it and it felt soft and flexible and had brighter colored dyed plys which I think is more of a clutch thing. Skated kinda like a clutch but I hardly ride them. People earlier also said since their new drops are still 65$ that may indicate they are clutch

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2024, 02:20:33 AM

Quote from: Thebird on February 02, 2024, 06:12:02 PM

OK, so if Ultracorp is South Central, how are the South Central shapes?  Pretty flat kicks and concave?

I can't tell you, other than looking at the same pics as you, so although they look fairly normal / similar to a lot of other boards, I just wouldn't want to comment further, but others on here can...

Quote from: turdtastic on February 03, 2024, 12:36:16 PM

How does South Central mark their boards?
Just a sticker or…?

Quote from: 144p on February 03, 2024, 07:51:12 PM

South central decks have a very sharp edge on the nose and tail only. Also a small dent on the back bolts is another tell tale.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 10, 2024, 04:18:24 AM

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Just having a look after getting a question about Control boards and saw this post from not too long ago, re new shapes.

Some twins in there - a twin nose, a twin tail, a longer wheelbase board, a shorter board, some others, etc.

Interesting to say the least.



https://www.instagram.com/p/C2kWhnUOg3A/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 12, 2024, 03:13:46 PM

Quote from: fs1/2cab on February 12, 2024, 02:23:54 PM

Quote from: overwaxed on February 12, 2024, 02:17:37 PM

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(https://i.imgur.com/1mhMC2t.jpeg)

I've been skating this board since June - I would have moved on from it but Chicago winter has me out less, and it's just so perfect. Considering grabbing a few of this generator 8.25 magenta shape since they're on clutch wood at the moment.

Magenta Leo 8.25
Venture 5.6
F4 53mm
Reds

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How can someone spot the difference from BBS to Clutch wood if he has a few Magenta decks laying around?

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To my knowledge they've been generator up till the last drop - Both theories and alltimers have been using Chapman (and thus clutch). Though I did just hear Josh on a podcast today saying he loves generator wood and the theories boards are the same shape as magenta so it's likely temporary. The main difference is the barcode on the packaging, and I think almost all generator magenta boards are the dark brown stain (unsure with the chapman/clutch boards).

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None of the 5 Magenta decks I had/have are with this dark brown stain. I will look at them tomorrow and can post top pics. In the meanwhile, I suggest we ask @Woodshop

Cha ching!!!!!


Ha no but I actually saw this and was going to reply on my normal account, but thought I should use the Woodshop account more for board related things like this anyway.


So between all the various Magenta boards I have had come through my hands, they were all brown stain, like Passport, until the pandemic, at which time they started coming out in various stains, still on BBS, but then a few of the boards didn't feel like BBS concave, so it was a little weird, or maybe from different molds within the BBS facility, but I didn't confirm this with anyone.  They were different dimensions / shapes too, eg usually 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb, but the other ones were 8.5 x 32 even on a 14.38 wb.

I didn't skate them, but the most recent boards I got were all team editions, but all blue bottom stain and orange top stains, super steep too, on BBS wood, so that is my experience.

That is here in Australia, so it could be different in USA or especially overseas somewhere else like Europe.


As to identification, if they are ungripped, BBS would have a dimple type dot between the front bolts, whereas Clutch would usually have a letter and number stamp into the front bolts area, often covered by a size sticker.  If they are already gripped, then it is harder to tell, but I feel like BBS has way more of a spoon concave to the kicks, whereas most other woodshops don't have quite that much spoon to them, mostly flat faced kicks really, but some have some concave across the kicks as well, similar to but not the same as BBS does.

Hope that helps.


* I should update the list if people say they have Clutch boards.  I know there was a short run around 2021 that was most likely Clutch, but couldn't confirm it.  Copying this to the Woodshop thread too, just to have the info there as well.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 12, 2024, 03:33:33 PM

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Copying this here as well, South Central top ply with a sharper edge on it than some other woodshops:

Quote from: turdtastic on February 09, 2024, 01:41:14 PM

Quote from: WelcomeToHell on February 09, 2024, 07:58:47 AM

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Quote from: 144p on February 09, 2024, 07:25:41 AM

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The hard edges are usually
On their popsicles and maybe they have done away with them or toned them down.  Almost like the heroin razor edge but not as extreme.

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Yeah, definitely not even close to a Razor Edge situation; straight up regs rounded edge.[\s]

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This was the sharpest one we had in the shop, they used to be almost square.

(https://i.imgur.com/sDhXDul.jpeg)

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I had a 5Boro last year that was South Central and it was noticeably more squared off than a BBS or PS. Wasn't quite a Heroin razor edge like others have said. Wonder when they started rounding them off more.

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(https://i.ibb.co/VpBMsXD/IMG-2852.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VpBMsXD)
Well fuck me, I stand corrected; poor lighting & old glasses…?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 13, 2024, 07:05:27 PM

Thanks, this confirms that my last toy machine was SC. It had the same routed edge.

I’m hype I just ordered a few custom boards and they’re using SC. I fucking loved the shape

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mooseknuckle666 on February 14, 2024, 06:01:24 AM

Anyone know where to get bbs wood 14 inch wheelbase ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: overwaxed on February 14, 2024, 07:03:22 AM

Quote from: Mooseknuckle666 on February 14, 2024, 06:01:24 AM

Anyone know where to get bbs wood 14 inch wheelbase ?

DLX true fit, Hockey, Quasi (gilberts board), and lots of 14.125 that feel the same.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Phao Lo on February 14, 2024, 11:05:20 AM

Quote from: Mooseknuckle666 on February 14, 2024, 06:01:24 AM

Anyone know where to get bbs wood 14 inch wheelbase ?

April

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2024, 04:50:52 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 13, 2024, 07:05:27 PM

Thanks, this confirms that my last toy machine was SC. It had the same routed edge.

I’m hype I just ordered a few custom boards and they’re using SC. I fucking loved the shape

Yeah rad!!!

Copying your post from the egg thread to here as well.

Quote from: TwisT on February 14, 2024, 05:49:25 AM

Boardpusher.com is doing eggs, currently for a limited time

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Egg Shape

A symetrical 9.75 inch egg shape, the shape that everyone has been waiting for. Time to jump on an egg and see what you can crack, this shape is ridiculously fun. This limited shape has black stained top and middle plys.

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(https://www.boardpusher.com/images/product-tn/egg-shape-skateboard-deck.jpg?v=23)

they usually source wood from control
https://www.boardpusher.com/custom/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 14, 2024, 04:55:28 PM

Quote from: Mooseknuckle666 on February 14, 2024, 06:01:24 AM

Anyone know where to get bbs wood 14 inch wheelbase ?

Quote from: overwaxed on February 14, 2024, 07:03:22 AM

DLX true fit, Hockey, Quasi (gilberts board), and lots of 14.125 that feel the same.

Quote from: Phao Lo on February 14, 2024, 11:05:20 AM

April

Yes I would think those would be good.

What size / shape or any other info to help too?

There are a lot of smaller boards that are more common with 14" wb but getting something larger is often harder to find.

As said, some brands are more into shorter wb, some longer boards with longer kicks, others more proportionate.


The DLX / Real tru fit, AH short, or similar might be the best bet, as they have 8" through 8.25" up to 8.38 and 8.5 widths in 14 wb that are not overly long and work well for people who want a shorter board, not just something that is big that has been drilled down to a shorter wheelbase.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Dkeppel on February 17, 2024, 11:59:52 PM

I'm curious about what woodshop is producing decks for a local New Zealand company, Def, in the USA and thought maybe somebody in this thread might know.

This particular deck measures 32.68" long, 8.25" Wide, has a 14.25" WB, 7.283" long nose and 6.89" long tail. Note the Dot in the centre of the front truck mounting holes, thought that might be a clue?

(https://i.ibb.co/5BvR1Bh/20240214-134437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BvR1Bh) (https://i.ibb.co/XkLmjgR/20240214-135308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkLmjgR) (https://i.ibb.co/SX0BDS0/20240215-170241.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SX0BDS0)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 18, 2024, 03:07:39 AM

Quote from: Dkeppel on February 17, 2024, 11:59:52 PM

I'm curious about what woodshop is producing decks for a local New Zealand company, Def, in the USA and thought maybe somebody in this thread might know.

This particular deck measures 32.68" long, 8.25" Wide, has a 14.25" WB, 7.283" long nose and 6.89" long tail. Note the Dot in the centre of the front truck mounting holes, thought that might be a clue?

(https://i.ibb.co/5BvR1Bh/20240214-134437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BvR1Bh) (https://i.ibb.co/XkLmjgR/20240214-135308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkLmjgR) (https://i.ibb.co/SX0BDS0/20240215-170241.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SX0BDS0)

Looking at those pics and given more info looking at the site, I would be inclined to say either BBS or Clutch, or even some of the boards almost have the usual colour stains of some other brands that are unknown China wood, but as they say USA, which usually means boards pressed in Mexico and then graphics put on in USA, I would most likely be going with BBS / Generator wood, same as skatesamples.com and similar mid tier board brands that get their wood from USA.

That stands to reason with the price too, given the usual US to AUD and NZD conversion.


If the boards have some side to side "spoon like concave" in the kicks, then I would say BBS for sure, otherwise if they are flat faced kicks from where the kick starts to the tip, then you are back to a guessing game again.

A single dimple between the front bolts area usually means BBS, but those look more like a small nail dot, not bigger dimple, which is usually more common from some other woodshops.


* As some people have said before, it is not hard to replicate concave, markings on top of the board or even certain very specific looking stains, so unless I stood on it or had them confirm where it is from, there is still no firm guarantee where the board is from.


https://www.defstore.co.nz/collections/skate-skateboard-decks-boards-auckland-new-zealand?sort_by=price-ascending


https://www.instagram.com/defmfgco/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Dkeppel on February 18, 2024, 09:35:53 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 18, 2024, 03:07:39 AM

Quote from: Dkeppel on February 17, 2024, 11:59:52 PM

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I'm curious about what woodshop is producing decks for a local New Zealand company, Def, in the USA and thought maybe somebody in this thread might know.

This particular deck measures 32.68" long, 8.25" Wide, has a 14.25" WB, 7.283" long nose and 6.89" long tail. Note the Dot in the centre of the front truck mounting holes, thought that might be a clue?

(https://i.ibb.co/5BvR1Bh/20240214-134437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BvR1Bh) (https://i.ibb.co/XkLmjgR/20240214-135308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkLmjgR) (https://i.ibb.co/SX0BDS0/20240215-170241.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SX0BDS0)

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Looking at those pics and given more info looking at the site, I would be inclined to say either BBS or Clutch, or even some of the boards almost have the usual colour stains of some other brands that are unknown China wood, but as they say USA, which usually means boards pressed in Mexico and then graphics put on in USA, I would most likely be going with BBS / Generator wood, same as skatesamples.com and similar mid tier board brands that get their wood from USA.

That stands to reason with the price too, given the usual US to AUD and NZD conversion.


If the boards have some side to side "spoon like concave" in the kicks, then I would say BBS for sure, otherwise if they are flat faced kicks from where the kick starts to the tip, then you are back to a guessing game again.

A single dimple between the front bolts area usually means BBS, but those look more like a small nail dot, not bigger dimple, which is usually more common from some other woodshops.


* As some people have said before, it is not hard to replicate concave, markings on top of the board or even certain very specific looking stains, so unless I stood on it or had them confirm where it is from, there is still no firm guarantee where the board is from.


https://www.defstore.co.nz/collections/skate-skateboard-decks-boards-auckland-new-zealand?sort_by=price-ascending


https://www.instagram.com/defmfgco/

Very interesting, I'm not sure I'd personally call something made in USA if it's only had paint slapped on it in the USA.

Reminds me of how Apple would say "Designed in California" in big text "Made in China" in small print on their products.

In these pictures I have placed a straight edge across the nose at approximately where the nose starts to taper, apologises for the poor photos it's a little difficult to photograph well.

To my eye the Def has a little more of a spoon to the nose but it's not much. I have enquired with Def if they're aware of who is producing their decks(They should know this) and what woodshop presses their decks(Less confident they will know this information)

Creature 8.6" - Pressed in China.
(https://i.ibb.co/NSD9XjJ/20240219-181721.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NSD9XjJ)

Def 8.25" - Pressed in Unknown region.
(https://i.ibb.co/NrBBsRh/20240219-181319.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NrBBsRh)

I'm enjoying the Def regardless of where it is pressed, of my 3 decks it feels the most like my decks did in 1999 to early 2000s era but that was a long time ago and it could be purely because it's closer to the same size decks I rode in the 1999 to early 2000s era.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 19, 2024, 12:26:28 AM

Quote from: Dkeppel on February 18, 2024, 09:35:53 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 18, 2024, 03:07:39 AM

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Quote from: Dkeppel on February 17, 2024, 11:59:52 PM

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I'm curious about what woodshop is producing decks for a local New Zealand company, Def, in the USA and thought maybe somebody in this thread might know.

This particular deck measures 32.68" long, 8.25" Wide, has a 14.25" WB, 7.283" long nose and 6.89" long tail. Note the Dot in the centre of the front truck mounting holes, thought that might be a clue?

(https://i.ibb.co/5BvR1Bh/20240214-134437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BvR1Bh) (https://i.ibb.co/XkLmjgR/20240214-135308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkLmjgR) (https://i.ibb.co/SX0BDS0/20240215-170241.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SX0BDS0)

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Looking at those pics and given more info looking at the site, I would be inclined to say either BBS or Clutch, or even some of the boards almost have the usual colour stains of some other brands that are unknown China wood, but as they say USA, which usually means boards pressed in Mexico and then graphics put on in USA, I would most likely be going with BBS / Generator wood, same as skatesamples.com and similar mid tier board brands that get their wood from USA.

That stands to reason with the price too, given the usual US to AUD and NZD conversion.


If the boards have some side to side "spoon like concave" in the kicks, then I would say BBS for sure, otherwise if they are flat faced kicks from where the kick starts to the tip, then you are back to a guessing game again.

A single dimple between the front bolts area usually means BBS, but those look more like a small nail dot, not bigger dimple, which is usually more common from some other woodshops.


* As some people have said before, it is not hard to replicate concave, markings on top of the board or even certain very specific looking stains, so unless I stood on it or had them confirm where it is from, there is still no firm guarantee where the board is from.


https://www.defstore.co.nz/collections/skate-skateboard-decks-boards-auckland-new-zealand?sort_by=price-ascending


https://www.instagram.com/defmfgco/

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Very interesting, I'm not sure I'd personally call something made in USA if it's only had paint slapped on it in the USA.

Reminds me of how Apple would say "Designed in California" in big text "Made in China" in small print on their products.

In these pictures I have placed a straight edge across the nose at approximately where the nose starts to taper, apologises for the poor photos it's a little difficult to photograph well.

To my eye the Def has a little more of a spoon to the nose but it's not much. I have enquired with Def if they're aware of who is producing their decks(They should know this) and what woodshop presses their decks(Less confident they will know this information)

Creature 8.6" - Pressed in China.
(https://i.ibb.co/NSD9XjJ/20240219-181721.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NSD9XjJ)

Def 8.25" - Pressed in Unknown region.
(https://i.ibb.co/NrBBsRh/20240219-181319.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NrBBsRh)

I'm enjoying the Def regardless of where it is pressed, of my 3 decks it feels the most like my decks did in 1999 to early 2000s era but that was a long time ago and it could be purely because it's closer to the same size decks I rode in the 1999 to early 2000s era.

Even just a little spoon concave could be BBS.


More often than not, brands are proud of the fact that they use BBS / Generator for wood, but they are less likely to want to reveal where they got it made if it really comes from China or similar.

There are still brands and people out there claiming USA made for whatever it is they have, which are known NOT to be, but any which way, it is not a big deal to me.

I go more by how a board feels and how it skates than anything else.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Dkeppel on February 19, 2024, 03:12:14 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 19, 2024, 12:26:28 AM

Quote from: Dkeppel on February 18, 2024, 09:35:53 PM

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Quote from: Woodshop on February 18, 2024, 03:07:39 AM

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Quote from: Dkeppel on February 17, 2024, 11:59:52 PM

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I'm curious about what woodshop is producing decks for a local New Zealand company, Def, in the USA and thought maybe somebody in this thread might know.

This particular deck measures 32.68" long, 8.25" Wide, has a 14.25" WB, 7.283" long nose and 6.89" long tail. Note the Dot in the centre of the front truck mounting holes, thought that might be a clue?

(https://i.ibb.co/5BvR1Bh/20240214-134437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BvR1Bh) (https://i.ibb.co/XkLmjgR/20240214-135308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkLmjgR) (https://i.ibb.co/SX0BDS0/20240215-170241.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SX0BDS0)

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Looking at those pics and given more info looking at the site, I would be inclined to say either BBS or Clutch, or even some of the boards almost have the usual colour stains of some other brands that are unknown China wood, but as they say USA, which usually means boards pressed in Mexico and then graphics put on in USA, I would most likely be going with BBS / Generator wood, same as skatesamples.com and similar mid tier board brands that get their wood from USA.

That stands to reason with the price too, given the usual US to AUD and NZD conversion.


If the boards have some side to side "spoon like concave" in the kicks, then I would say BBS for sure, otherwise if they are flat faced kicks from where the kick starts to the tip, then you are back to a guessing game again.

A single dimple between the front bolts area usually means BBS, but those look more like a small nail dot, not bigger dimple, which is usually more common from some other woodshops.


* As some people have said before, it is not hard to replicate concave, markings on top of the board or even certain very specific looking stains, so unless I stood on it or had them confirm where it is from, there is still no firm guarantee where the board is from.


https://www.defstore.co.nz/collections/skate-skateboard-decks-boards-auckland-new-zealand?sort_by=price-ascending


https://www.instagram.com/defmfgco/

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Very interesting, I'm not sure I'd personally call something made in USA if it's only had paint slapped on it in the USA.

Reminds me of how Apple would say "Designed in California" in big text "Made in China" in small print on their products.

In these pictures I have placed a straight edge across the nose at approximately where the nose starts to taper, apologises for the poor photos it's a little difficult to photograph well.

To my eye the Def has a little more of a spoon to the nose but it's not much. I have enquired with Def if they're aware of who is producing their decks(They should know this) and what woodshop presses their decks(Less confident they will know this information)

Creature 8.6" - Pressed in China.
(https://i.ibb.co/NSD9XjJ/20240219-181721.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NSD9XjJ)

Def 8.25" - Pressed in Unknown region.
(https://i.ibb.co/NrBBsRh/20240219-181319.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NrBBsRh)

I'm enjoying the Def regardless of where it is pressed, of my 3 decks it feels the most like my decks did in 1999 to early 2000s era but that was a long time ago and it could be purely because it's closer to the same size decks I rode in the 1999 to early 2000s era.

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Even just a little spoon concave could be BBS.


More often than not, brands are proud of the fact that they use BBS / Generator for wood, but they are less likely to want to reveal where they got it made if it really comes from China or similar.

There are still brands and people out there claiming USA made for whatever it is they have, which are known NOT to be, but any which way, it is not a big deal to me.

I go more by how a board feels and how it skates than anything else.

Very true and I am loving this deck. I'm quite happy supporting this company, they say these CCC decks have been produced to promote New Zealand skateboarding and I can get behind that. However I am curious still, will see if they get back to me.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on February 19, 2024, 06:44:20 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/LnjsfUy.png)
With the news of Hjalte and Durao going to Hardbody I went to check out the site and it looks like their new stock is all PS Stix.  Used to be Popmaster.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on February 19, 2024, 08:27:37 AM

PS seems to be carving out a nice niche for cool brands that you’ll never physically see a board….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on February 19, 2024, 08:32:51 AM

Quote from: Gene_Harrogate on February 19, 2024, 06:44:20 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/LnjsfUy.png)
With the news of Hjalte and Durao going to Hardbody I went to check out the site and it looks like their new stock is all PS Stix.  Used to be Popmaster.

i asked the hardbodynyc ig on the post for durao and hjalte getting boards, someone else responded bbs.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 19, 2024, 08:35:26 AM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 19, 2024, 08:27:37 AM

PS seems to be carving out a nice niche for cool brands that you’ll never physically see a board….

I see plenty of Quasi and GX boards out in the wild.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 20, 2024, 03:18:27 PM

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Adding this here:

Quote from: Notyourmom on February 20, 2024, 03:08:51 AM

Anybody know if the primitive shape guide is accurate? Especially the 8.5. Looks like a perfect shape with 14.5 wb but everywhere I look online they’re labeled as 14.25-14.3.

Quote from: Xen on February 20, 2024, 11:46:51 AM

A buddy of mine only skates 8.5s from primitive (or the DW/Baker 8.5s) because they are consistently 14.5 WB (and he's always had them be spot on).

FWIW, he only skates the pro decks as he prefers the mellower concave compared to the team bloards (china?) which are deeper (talking concave not kicks).

I've ridden a few of their 8.25/8.3s and they're always accurate.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: hiljentaa on February 20, 2024, 04:11:08 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 19, 2024, 08:27:37 AM

PS seems to be carving out a nice niche for cool brands that you’ll never physically see a board….

Part of why I love PS Stix boards is supporting small brands that are sick.

Snack, Quasi, Western Edition, Glue...

All rad shit that I am way more hyped to ride than bigger brands that are everywhere.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2024, 04:32:21 PM

Quote from: hiljentaa on February 20, 2024, 04:11:08 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 19, 2024, 08:27:37 AM

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PS seems to be carving out a nice niche for cool brands that you’ll never physically see a board….

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Part of why I love PS Stix boards is supporting small brands that are sick.

Snack, Quasi, Western Edition, Glue...

All rad shit that I am way more hyped to ride than bigger brands that are everywhere.

could not agree more

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on February 20, 2024, 07:59:42 PM

Has Hopps fully moved over to Clutch now?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: munchbox on February 21, 2024, 02:07:24 PM

any brand using this shape? ps stix 9.0 full
swim used the 8.75 full on the fitzgerald guest board
but i rarely see fulls used on anything above 8.5
(https://i.ibb.co/NNMQCrv/IMG-2801.jpg) (https://ibb.co/my31T0j)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 21, 2024, 05:28:18 PM

Quote from: munchbox on February 21, 2024, 02:07:24 PM

any brand using this shape? ps stix 9.0 full
swim used the 8.75 full on the fitzgerald guest board
but i rarely see fulls used on anything above 8.5

I feel like a good sized 9" board is too hard to find, for what should be an easy market to get something around those dimensions.

As per previous conversations, having a board that is not 9 x 33 with 15 wb and more like the usual 8.5 to 8.75 dimensions in 9" width would be so good.

Something I guess some other brands are doing, more like 9 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb or so, be it as current stock shapes like Black Label, or others that are yet to come out in the next drop or so.


Thanks for posting that one too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 21, 2024, 05:38:14 PM

Quote from: Thebird on February 20, 2024, 07:59:42 PM

Has Hopps fully moved over to Clutch now?

I haven't heard or seem anything about it, but I don't travel in those circles at all really.


Hopps still under Theories of Atlantis distribution, so I guess whatever wood they get and put their graphics on in that regard.


https://www.theoriesofatlantis.com/


Looking at some of their boards, they say "Made in Mexico" and "S Shape" which is Clutch, more so than BBS.

https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1


No other info on their site for any of the other boards, besides WKND board listings saying PS Stix, Studio saying "Made in Canada" so they at least list some like that where they want to, the majority of their boards just having "Made in Mexico" in the info.


Maybe message them to ask, otherwise being "Made in Mexico" they could be BBS, Clutch or PS Stix, but I would be thinking more Clutch than anything else.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: G_Money on February 22, 2024, 07:20:52 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on February 14, 2024, 04:50:52 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 13, 2024, 07:05:27 PM

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Thanks, this confirms that my last toy machine was SC. It had the same routed edge.

I’m hype I just ordered a few custom boards and they’re using SC. I fucking loved the shape

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Yeah rad!!!

Copying your post from the egg thread to here as well.

Quote from: TwisT on February 14, 2024, 05:49:25 AM

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Boardpusher.com is doing eggs, currently for a limited time

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Egg Shape

A symetrical 9.75 inch egg shape, the shape that everyone has been waiting for. Time to jump on an egg and see what you can crack, this shape is ridiculously fun. This limited shape has black stained top and middle plys.

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(https://www.boardpusher.com/images/product-tn/egg-shape-skateboard-deck.jpg?v=23)

they usually source wood from control
https://www.boardpusher.com/custom/

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Has anyone skated the decks from boardpusher.com? How are they? I kind of want to make a one-off egg graphic to rip around on.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 22, 2024, 07:32:21 AM

So, boardpusher is fine. I had a standard 8.25 deck from them back in November. It will always have a special place in my heart because I did a kickflip crook shuv on it. I'm pretty sure it's control wood.

Some images
https://imgur.com/a/V2yPZtO

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: WelcomeToHell on February 22, 2024, 04:16:52 PM

In case anyone is interest in steepness/concave examples. I’m mainly concerned with the hips, and have had trouble with some BBS boards that have very pronounced hips and very little flat before the kicks — DLX III/IV being the exception.

All 8.5”

From bottom, up:

Girl G033
Politic E mold Flat as Fuck (South Central)
Quasi (PS)
TOPX (BBS)

Haven’t skated the Politic yet, but I may have found my sweet spot with the G033 — at least when it comes to popsicles.

(https://i.ibb.co/F03h4h1/IMG-2546.jpg)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on February 23, 2024, 12:22:44 AM

Anyone else feel like Control wood gets soggy extra fast?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 23, 2024, 01:53:36 AM

Quote from: rikki on February 23, 2024, 12:22:44 AM

Anyone else feel like Control wood gets soggy extra fast?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDXibq5nNs&ab_channel=GiftedHater

21:10

I tried a bunch of their blanks and I echo Ben's experience. Brand new they never felt as stiff or snappy as I liked even with the steep or medium concave boards. Something about the flatness on the nose / tail contributed to the softness and I could never get the timing right on my tricks. Sound of the tail tapping the ground is very unscientific but they did not sound as crisp as they should, contributing to an overall mediocre experience. Rode 2 decks and retired them well before my standard 6 weeks.

Rave uses Control and my friend loves their boards, they hold up well for him despite being heavier and taller than me.

I like that they have a catalog of shapes (twin nose, twin tail, twin tip with 1 steeper tip) and concaves. But like Ben said they feel like shop board territory.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on February 23, 2024, 07:02:04 AM

Re : the kicks making it feel dead….i agree….sometimes I think the bevel and how a board razors, along with the kicks, impacts how your tail hits hence the board feeling less lively…..the flatter the contact point is, the less pop….

I still think if you like flat boards, it’s a pretty consistent wood shop is a solid option…

Is Tightbooth dwindle?  PS? 

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 23, 2024, 03:14:03 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 23, 2024, 07:02:04 AM

Re : the kicks making it feel dead….i agree….sometimes I think the bevel and how a board razors, along with the kicks, impacts how your tail hits hence the board feeling less lively…..the flatter the contact point is, the less pop….

I still think if you like flat boards, it’s a pretty consistent wood shop is a solid option…

Is Tightbooth dwindle?  PS?

Yes Tightbooth is DSM from last info, unless something has changed.

That was from a while ago, but I don't think they would change it up / info from them last time.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 24, 2024, 04:48:31 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on February 23, 2024, 03:14:03 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on February 23, 2024, 07:02:04 AM

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Re : the kicks making it feel dead….i agree….sometimes I think the bevel and how a board razors, along with the kicks, impacts how your tail hits hence the board feeling less lively…..the flatter the contact point is, the less pop….

I still think if you like flat boards, it’s a pretty consistent wood shop is a solid option…

Is Tightbooth dwindle?  PS?

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Yes Tightbooth is DSM from last info, unless something has changed.

That was from a while ago, but I don't think they would change it up / info from them last time.

Friend picked one up in Japan in December 2023, still came with the DSM green sticker along the side.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 24, 2024, 01:29:09 PM

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A little something to read over in this thread:


Another board company - 2 cents skateboards

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=129405.0


But the main thing from this was that the other twocentsskateboards account / brand has some lovely top board posts which I am always stoked on and thought I would add a few here for viewing pleasure.

He says the split veneers in a newer post are South Central and a couple of really old posts have #southcentral tags so looks like that is the woodshop used.  Colour stains similar to Clutch, but anyone can use the same stains / veneer colours too.

Bear in mind all this is from years ago now, but it is still cool to see someone from any company post top pics of boards with good stains.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BYgob8SlVsG/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYHnv8CFPnV/


https://www.instagram.com/p/BTwevBTFwZi/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQL_eCLDv2I/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BL3x-0cD61i/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBQPfh3Ju2a/


Last one:

https://www.instagram.com/p/yP28WcJu9C/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 24, 2024, 02:39:13 PM

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As per the Questions thread post, copied here as well.

Quote from: Schinken on February 23, 2024, 03:52:24 AM

Does anyone know if Almost / Creature changed their molds?
Recently I have got myself a Almost deck marked as mellow concave steep kicks. Set it up, rode it, felt flat.
Measured it , 19.5°...

Out of interest I have put a spare creature 8.6 Vx on my current  8.6 Vx. Completely different concave and flatter for sure

https://ibb.co/Hh8z4s9

https://ibb.co/2jycz37

I think Creature went through a bit of a change of woodshop, China DSM to China Excel so although still out of China, the two different places would have different molds, hence the two different boards from different periods of time.

Of course they could have changed them up in the same woodshop as well, if they were not happy with the shape and feel of them and tweaked them to be different.

China are all single press, so it is not like some would be flatter and some steeper, but definitely different presses for those.


As for Almost, well, anything you see now is old stock, as Almost is done, Dwindle in general is done, who knows what may or may not come out but as for their boards, there were a number of different options, Almost having more mellow concaves in general compared to the cheaper boards from Blind or Darkstar, from what I saw.


Hope that helps.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rocklobster on February 29, 2024, 06:01:19 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

Should be similar to the Dwindle PP boards, good for a few sessions but they'd sog out prematurely.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on February 29, 2024, 06:26:37 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 29, 2024, 06:01:19 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

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Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

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Should be similar to the Dwindle PP boards, good for a few sessions but they'd sog out prematurely.

The last dwindle PP I had was shit. dead after one session. delamed in about 2 weeks. The price of decks has gone up there is also a glut of discount and blank decks for below $50. DGK, Primitive, Crailtap, Theories, and tons of other brands and shops, offer some form of mystery board bundle.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on February 29, 2024, 02:15:15 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

I think the market for all those generic Santa Cruz boards, more so than Creature, but maybe those too, was more for the beginner to intermediate skaters, but if you don't break boards that often, they should be ok.

Overall they will still skate fine, but for adults skating hard, they might not hold up as well, or as long as other more normal boards might, as Rocklobster and Twist have said above.

Some of the shapes were a bit weird when I saw them in person here in an Aussie shop, but they were steepish and stiff to stand on there.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:57:57 PM

Quote from: TwisT on February 29, 2024, 06:26:37 AM

Quote from: rocklobster on February 29, 2024, 06:01:19 AM

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Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

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Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

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Should be similar to the Dwindle PP boards, good for a few sessions but they'd sog out prematurely.

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The last dwindle PP I had was shit. dead after one session. delamed in about 2 weeks. The price of decks has gone up there is also a glut of discount and blank decks for below $50. DGK, Primitive, Crailtap, Theories, and tons of other brands and shops, offer some form of mystery board bundle.

Quote from: Woodshop on February 29, 2024, 02:15:15 PM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on February 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

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Anyone know how good/bad the birch boards are from NHS? I'm over spending $70-$80 per deck and other price point options don't come in dimensions that I like

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I think the market for all those generic Santa Cruz boards, more so than Creature, but maybe those too, was more for the beginner to intermediate skaters, but if you don't break boards that often, they should be ok.

Overall they will still skate fine, but for adults skating hard, they might not hold up as well, or as long as other more normal boards might, as Rocklobster and Twist have said above.

Some of the shapes were a bit weird when I saw them in person here in an Aussie shop, but they were steepish and stiff to stand on there.

thanks all. i'll probably pass on these then

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: danmasontree on February 29, 2024, 06:18:51 PM

Probably a dumb question… but will all BBS skate relatively the same assuming they are the same dimensions no matter the board company?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 01, 2024, 02:19:05 AM

Quote from: danmasontree on February 29, 2024, 06:18:51 PM

Probably a dumb question… but will all BBS skate relatively the same assuming they are the same dimensions no matter the board company?

Ha, no nothing like that is a dumb question, but sometimes there is never just a yes or no answer.

So I think to answer this well, firstly, there are generic dimensions of the Generator boards, which is the blanks / smaller brands and even some not so small brands, that all use the same boards as skatesamples.com boards, shapes and dimensions on here somewhere and easy enough to find in the search option, then secondly, there are all the other boards of more specific and unique dimensions that the bigger brands have as their usual go tos, many of which you can't get anywhere else as they are their own specific shapes, dimensions and so on like that.

Sure there are a lot of boards of very similar dimensions, but even 1 mm here or there can make such a big difference in skateboards, that it is better to just say that they are definitely not all the same.

Also to add to that, concaves can vary greatly too, some boards being very steep like FA / Hockey, others super mellow like DLX IV press boards, all from BBS, but totally different to skate.  Those two brand houses have their own shapes / dimensions too.

Maybe the hardest thing to check is given there are always four to a press, some could be steeper and some more mellow in the same boards, same dimensions, same graphic, etc, as per a dozen or more of the exact same board I have had come through my hands in the past, more so for the shop situation, but when I have found something I liked, I bought all of them, then sold on whatever didn't work for me, in that case the steeper boards.


Now as far as the question "Will they all skate the same?" there could be a number of different answers there too, but I think I would say not counting any weird landings or issues people have with landing incorrectly, fresh board bad landings breaks or whatever, yes the same boards should all skate the same too, but even with my own riding the same board x 20, 30, 50 maybe as I never counted how many I had of the AH black eagle 8.125 size board, then the DLX 8.38 shape now for a few years, so some skated better than others, for no other reason than some just felt more comfortable.  That is why I like to stand on a board before I set it up, but I know not everyone can have the luxury of doing that.




Edit:  Adding this here as the previous skatesamples.com dimensions pic seems to have been removed.  Let's see how long this stays up then.

Quote from: Xen on February 27, 2024, 09:17:23 PM

We're exploring doing collabs/drops with a [/ the right] partner (stay tuned), but prior, we looked into doing them ourselves; here is what they sent me (as of this month).

(https://i.ibb.co/fqFhCcf/GEN-SHAPES-2024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fqFhCcf)

* Edit:



I had to do a double take on that chart, then recheck the first / old shape chart and I had not realised that there are the two new ones in there, the 8.25 and 8.5 shorter wheelbase boards - that is same nose and tails, just shorter length and wheelbase.

Now saved that new chart as well, with everything else still being the same as the old one.


Wondering how many people might not realise there are two options now for the 8.25 and 8.5 sized boards, but it makes sense, with so many more people going with shorter boards / shorter wheelbases.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 01, 2024, 03:11:11 PM

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Adding this here.

Quote from: Easy Slider on February 29, 2024, 09:52:21 PM

I am riding these:

https://firstskateshop.com/en-eu/collections/superply/products/twin-tail-blank-deck

Made in Germany, also ship bulk:

https://quarterdist.com/

Quote from: Síota on March 01, 2024, 01:09:19 AM

Wait so Poetic is made there in Germany not by Control as listed in the Woodshop thread?

https://quarterdist.com/brands-eng/

Updated.

I was trying to find out where / when things might have changed, but I think it could have been last year, 2023 with Quarter increasing their business and taking on some local accounts, as well as Blast Skates when Gnosis woodshop closed.

That's about all I have to go on, but either way, it is always good to have the list as current as possible, as most of the brands would never provide a lot of info.

Quote from: input on March 01, 2024, 02:59:25 PM

Just a small headsup but the wording on the production page (https://quarterdist.com/production-eng/) makes it sound like the boards themselves are not actually constructed in house.
We source the blank decks from factories with decades of experience in production and development.

Yeah they import bulk boards from China, which is not a bad thing, given they don't try to cover it up or hide the fact that they don't make the boards themselves.

Some of those Blast Skates boards are pretty cool shapes too, which is interesting to see, but people who have skated them say they are good boards, or good enough not to worry.

:)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on March 02, 2024, 01:21:14 AM

Quote from: danmasontree on February 29, 2024, 06:18:51 PM

Probably a dumb question… but will all BBS skate relatively the same assuming they are the same dimensions no matter the board company?

Short answer: no.

But a moderate "yes" regarding all DLX's BBS boards (Antihero, Krooked, Real), as they are very much similar.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 04, 2024, 04:26:09 PM

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Just browsing and this brand came up.


Good buddy Skateboards.

https://www.instagram.com/goodbuddyskateboards/


Interesting stains and layer options there.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqrKEHwvFmG/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CkzUe_TJrR8/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc3gyznPxnM/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on March 04, 2024, 04:36:37 PM

Quote from: Woodshop on March 04, 2024, 04:26:09 PM

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Just browsing and this brand came up.


Good buddy Skateboards.

https://www.instagram.com/goodbuddyskateboards/


Interesting stains and layer options there.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CqrKEHwvFmG/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CkzUe_TJrR8/


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc3gyznPxnM/

I have had probably 5 Good Buddy decks- super friendly and great guys. It’s all BBS wood.  The graphics are great and they often have flecked paint or cool stains. The screen their own tees too.
Alex Perelsons brother Brandon is part of the company. San Diego dudes that go way back.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 04, 2024, 04:43:32 PM

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Adding this here too:

Quote from: skateboarder4life on February 29, 2024, 02:57:57 PM

Where can I get a 10" popsicle? 33" length or more


Heroins have too small a wheelbase. I want at least 15" wheelbase and 33" length, solid nose and tail.

Everything else is old school with tiny / pointy nose.

Closest i can seem to find is the Moose 10x33 blank. Concave seems good but the nose is shorter and pointier than I'd like. Is nobody making 10" popsicles anymore?

Quote from: 144p on February 29, 2024, 03:24:03 PM

We have 10 and 10.25 popsicles made
By south central with 15 wb and measures 33 long in this graphic only
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Decks/35th/p/35th-Script-Outline-Shop-Deck-x46710530.htm

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on March 01, 2024, 02:43:37 AM

That is so good, even a 9" wide board, or 9.5" and then the 10" and 10.25" boards as you said.

Some people here in Australia are always looking for and asking about wider boards, but there are just none around like that.

Passing on details to them, but to be fair, I think it is just not worth the effort to ship boards half way round the world, no matter how many, unless it is in a wholesale order type of thing, which no one here is about to do.

The shipping usually costs more than the board and the people who often ask about it are not the most cashed up individuals at the best of times either.

Quote from: KILLEDTHEPOOL on March 04, 2024, 05:05:04 AM

BELLYFUL has 10, 11 in pops with 15wb. they’re out of western australia?

Nice.

I will pass on their info to the people who want bigger boards.

Thanks!!


https://www.instagram.com/bellyful_skateboards/


BELLYFUL_SKATES
(Anti mass productionist)
Small batch hand cut toys..
Commissions currently closed >.<
Boorloo, Western Australia


https://www.instagram.com/p/CxNB4X8J8aS/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 08, 2024, 02:49:05 PM

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Adding this here:

Quote from: DarkPools on March 08, 2024, 01:25:06 AM

Quote from: doomstation55 on March 07, 2024, 09:12:43 PM

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Is there a current deck out there that has a square ish nose and tail that’s mellow? Skating a quasi and I love the square but hate how steep it feels, especially the nose on switch/nollie tricks. Preferably on an 8.5 or wider too.

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AWS and Habitat offer a similar or maybe identical shape, but have often felt pretty mellow, at least compared to how to steep the FA/Hockey/Quasi blunt shape tends to be.

I had 8.5s, for reference. Not sure on their 8.6/8.75 or 9.0s, but I assume they're similar to the 8.5 on mellowness

PS Stix are well known for having more mellow tails and steeper noses.  That is the Professor's version of a multi tool.

As for other BBS versions of the Quasi / GX1000 boards, which have the same shapes, it is down to checking the boards more so than all of them, some being a bit steeper / more mellow than others.


FA / Hockey are the steepest of all, but Quasi / GX1000 can be right up there too, from some I have seen.

AWS / Habitat / Metal also use the blunt shapes, often longer boards, shorter wheelbases, very long kicks, all on BBS so again some steeper, some a bit more mellow, but more even than PS Stix in terms of both kick angles.


I would almost think that the DLX - Rreal Full SE type boards, especially marked IV, but even III can also be blunt / squared off kicks, but way more mellow than anything else, as well as feeling really good overall, eg good dimensions and come in most sizes.

A recent Real 8.5 Full SE board was very mellow that I had come through my hands, marked IV and flatter than most I have seen, so I think given they are always out there, that might be the best option.


There are others out there, but right this minute I can't think of other brands that have squared off looking kicks, without them being actual shaped boards, which I don't know if you would want?


Example:

https://www.tactics.com/real/busenitz-overlord-85-full-se-shape-skateboard-deck/orange


(https://www.tactics.com/a/f00z/1b/real-busenitz-overlord-85-full-se-shape-skateboard-deck-top.webp)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 09, 2024, 02:05:36 AM

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Quote from: Firebert on March 07, 2024, 05:00:55 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/7a51EYB.jpeg)

MADE IN USA sticker on top

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 15, 2024, 07:28:47 AM

Quote from: Firebert on March 15, 2024, 01:32:48 AM

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(https://i.ibb.co/TPfgJ4q/IMG-6951.jpg)
MADE IN USA sticker on top

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Made in USA? wtf? now who's doing their boards??

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🤔 there’s a “1” stamped on top under the sticker…

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rawbertson. on March 15, 2024, 08:12:46 AM

Primitive has used Pennswood in the past so it's possible they went there again.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on March 15, 2024, 09:11:22 AM

Quote from: rawbertson. on March 15, 2024, 08:12:46 AM

Primitive has used Pennswood in the past so it's possible they went there again.

Commented in the other post, the 1 under the sticker seems very likely to be Pennswood

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:14:27 PM

Anyone know the difference between the full and standard shape for Coda?  Specifically wondering if one has steeper kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on March 16, 2024, 06:34:42 PM

Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:14:27 PM

Anyone know the difference between the full and standard shape for Coda?  Specifically wondering if one has steeper kicks.

It’s the difference between the two PS Stix shapes basically, one squared nose, the other tapered. The full I had wasn’t steep like a Hockey. Just regular .

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:47:14 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on March 16, 2024, 06:34:42 PM

Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:14:27 PM

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Anyone know the difference between the full and standard shape for Coda?  Specifically wondering if one has steeper kicks.

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It’s the difference between the two PS Stix shapes basically, one squared nose, the other tapered. The full I had wasn’t steep like a Hockey. Just regular .

So the full has a wider nose and tail, but it is not steeper?  Not a steep nose like the Quasi?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 17, 2024, 11:24:25 PM

For my fellow small WB skaters on here, I recently DM'd Louie about a 8.25x31.75 Jacuzzi deck with 13.75WB that Caswell was riding, and he told me it's likely gonna be in production late summer. Seems like a smaller version of the 8.75 jet ski shape that's out now.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 18, 2024, 02:34:37 AM

Quote from: FatGuy92 on March 17, 2024, 11:24:25 PM

For my fellow small WB skaters on here, I recently DM'd Louie about a 8.25x31.75 Jacuzzi deck with 13.75WB that Caswell was riding, and he told me it's likely gonna be in production late summer. Seems like a smaller version of the 8.75 jet ski shape that's out now.

I got to see one of those the other day, the 8.75 with short wheelbase.  The guys in the shop didn't realise it was such a wide board with a short wheelbase.

There are quite a few around now it seems, maybe more so Fasttimes than anywhere else, but other places might have them too.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on March 18, 2024, 11:43:24 AM

Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:47:14 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on March 16, 2024, 06:34:42 PM

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Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:14:27 PM

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Anyone know the difference between the full and standard shape for Coda?  Specifically wondering if one has steeper kicks.

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It’s the difference between the two PS Stix shapes basically, one squared nose, the other tapered. The full I had wasn’t steep like a Hockey. Just regular .

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So the full has a wider nose and tail, but it is not steeper?  Not a steep nose like the Quasi?

Wider nose didn’t notice any difference in tail. Not a steep Quasi nose.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Thebird on March 18, 2024, 12:35:26 PM

Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on March 18, 2024, 11:43:24 AM

Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:47:14 PM

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Quote from: GumOnMyGrip on March 16, 2024, 06:34:42 PM

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Quote from: Thebird on March 16, 2024, 06:14:27 PM

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Anyone know the difference between the full and standard shape for Coda?  Specifically wondering if one has steeper kicks.

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It’s the difference between the two PS Stix shapes basically, one squared nose, the other tapered. The full I had wasn’t steep like a Hockey. Just regular .

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So the full has a wider nose and tail, but it is not steeper?  Not a steep nose like the Quasi?

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Wider nose didn’t notice any difference in tail. Not a steep Quasi nose.

Awesome.  Thanks

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: backinaction on March 18, 2024, 02:20:00 PM

Quote from: backinaction on May 30, 2022, 06:58:28 PM

They are also pressing “at a partner” in Mexico (&& maple, reissues:

 https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-7-ply-maple-skateboard-deck-9-13-x-32-8

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-vallely-elephant-skateboard-deck-lime-9-85-x-30

Powell’s  “Partner in Mexico” is BBS.  Per Ben Degros factory tour video showing pressing of SP3 concave decks at 3:30.   SP3 is the concave used on their old school reissue boards.   

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-steve-caballero-chinese-dragon-reissue-skateboard-deck-sage-green-10-x-30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TSC9yCf7Yc&t=220s

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: DarkPools on March 23, 2024, 01:23:06 AM

Probably in the list but I haven't checked thoroughly yet.

Pharmacy Boardshop decks are Clutch right now. I have two 8.5 K9 mold graphics.

I'm bummed trying to skate one right now :( The kicks are so mellow compared to my usual BBS decks, that nothing pops right for me. Are you supposed to move your feet towards the bolts more to pop when the kicks are THAT mellow? If so, that feels gross and does not seem to work for me. Moving them closer to the tips of the kicks doesn't seem to feel right either. Real soggy feeling  tail and nose.

Looks like I gripped this board to only skate it for 20 minutes since I'm setting a different new deck from my stack Saturday morning before going sskating. Gonna keep this as an emergency spare.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on March 23, 2024, 01:37:00 AM

Quote from: DarkPools on March 23, 2024, 01:23:06 AM

Probably in the list but I haven't checked thoroughly yet.

Pharmacy Boardshop decks are Clutch right now. I have two 8.5 K9 mold graphics.

I'm bummed trying to skate one right now :( The kicks are so mellow compared to my usual BBS decks, that nothing pops right for me. Are you supposed to move your feet towards the bolts more to pop when the kicks are THAT mellow? If so, that feels gross and does not seem to work for me. Moving them closer to the tips of the kicks doesn't seem to feel right either. Real soggy feeling  tail and nose.

Looks like I gripped this board to only skate it for 20 minutes since I'm setting a different new deck from my stack Saturday morning before going sskating. Gonna keep this as an emergency spare.

Mellow kicks don't work for me either. They screw up my pop hella bad. I can't ride Indys on a mellow 14.25 wb deck, gots to be Ventures and even then there's something off. Been struggling on a mellow Sour deck, and just measured the steepness of the kicks on it -- they are noticeable mellower than what I prefer, which is usual the DLX/BBS snappy steepness.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on March 23, 2024, 02:17:10 AM

In case anyone missed it, PS Stix did another post with their 50 board minimum offer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4zGTQYRoL3/?img_index=1

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Our new minimum of 50 decks includes options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program in increments of 5
We still do our custom cut program with a minimum of 50 of the same shape.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on March 23, 2024, 05:20:51 AM

All HLC boards have a 6.5 tail?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on March 23, 2024, 05:44:32 AM

Quote from: moonordie on March 23, 2024, 05:20:51 AM

All HLC boards have a 6.5 tail?

no

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf (https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 23, 2024, 03:46:09 PM

Quote from: DarkPools on March 23, 2024, 01:23:06 AM

Probably in the list but I haven't checked thoroughly yet.

Pharmacy Boardshop decks are Clutch right now. I have two 8.5 K9 mold graphics.

I'm bummed trying to skate one right now :( The kicks are so mellow compared to my usual BBS decks, that nothing pops right for me. Are you supposed to move your feet towards the bolts more to pop when the kicks are THAT mellow? If so, that feels gross and does not seem to work for me. Moving them closer to the tips of the kicks doesn't seem to feel right either. Real soggy feeling  tail and nose.

Looks like I gripped this board to only skate it for 20 minutes since I'm setting a different new deck from my stack Saturday morning before going sskating. Gonna keep this as an emergency spare.

Pharmacy shop added to the skateshop list on the first page - thank you!


The weird thing is most Clutch boards I have had come through my hands have been steeper, or at least different to BBS, which made getting used to them not as easy as some changes.

I guess they would have some molds steeper and some not as steep, as per almost every other big woodshop, but I just haven't really heard or seen much about them, besides the shape information.

For a shop like that, if it is your local or somewhere you might go a bit, I would be curious to ask them about the board shapes and concaves, in case they do have steeper boards, or if they are all more whatever they get and that's it.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 23, 2024, 03:57:38 PM

Quote from: fernando the skater on March 23, 2024, 02:17:10 AM

In case anyone missed it, PS Stix did another post with their 50 board minimum offer.

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Our new minimum of 50 decks includes options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program in increments of 5
We still do our custom cut program with a minimum of 50 of the same shape.

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Nothing against industry heads like Julio, but for a while there, he was pushing Clutch pretty hard for everything, so I kind of wonder what changed or happened, for him to now be working for or with PS Stix since mid 2023?  Maybe just a better deal than when he had Las Americas going through Clutch, but I don't even want to speculate there.  He was at BBS back in the day too, so I guess now he has all three on his resume.

It seems like there are often not a lot of staff in the running of the sales / calls anyway, many just being one guy doing most of the work in that regard, compared to the however many (many) workers on the woodshop floor making the boards.


https://www.instagram.com/psstix_julio/

https://www.instagram.com/lasamericas2382/



* Any which way, I just like looking at all the boards and different woodshop pics, so I just think it is cool to see when people post quite a few pics from inside, the machinery, the environment, the boards in various stages of construction, etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lamfordie on March 25, 2024, 01:53:39 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/C48nA_8JbDF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
I know these are clutch but im curious if this is a fuller/shovel nose or just the same one as before?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 25, 2024, 09:24:14 PM

Quote from: lamfordie on March 25, 2024, 01:53:39 PM

I know these are clutch but im curious if this is a fuller/shovel nose or just the same one as before?

I think it is probably still the same one.

Interesting from comments on that post and the previous one, Ryan ordered the 8.5 twin but they got something else.  These twins just being the 8.0 and the 8.25 boards.

Also with regard to kicks, more like a twin nose, not twin tail.


blankchecksupply
 
9h
they are more of a double nose. I think the nose and tail are around 7”



Then from the listings, which also show the top and bottom pics, which could have something to do with the look of the boards - top always looks more pointy, from the bottom always looks more blunt or full shaped:


https://blankchecksupply.com/products/the-symmetrical-blank-skateboard-deck-8

Dimensions:

Width: 8"      Length: 31.875"       Wheel Base: 14.25"       

Nose: 6.875"      Tail: 6.875"


https://blankchecksupply.com/products/the-symmetrical-blank-skateboard-deck-8-25

Dimensions:

Width: 8.25"      Length: 32"       Wheel Base: 14.25"       

Nose: 7"      Tail: 7"

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 25, 2024, 09:49:48 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxRAFawSKRw/



Just browsing some of the social pages of various woodshops, some more active than others, but that recent post is interesting to see so many different colour options from BBS.


Anyone else have other accounts for woodshops I don't seem to have on the first page, under the various woodshop listings?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729104#msg3729104



The more common ones:


https://www.instagram.com/bbsmfg/

https://www.instagram.com/generatorskateboardistribution/

https://www.instagram.com/PSstix/

https://www.instagram.com/asfdistribution/

https://www.instagram.com/clutchdistribution/

https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

https://www.instagram.com/pennswood/

https://www.instagram.com/primewood.la/

https://www.instagram.com/controlmfg/

https://www.instagram.com/woodchucklaminates/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on March 26, 2024, 01:27:44 AM

Maybe @skatewood.eu ?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on March 26, 2024, 04:27:20 AM

Quote from: moonordie on March 26, 2024, 01:27:44 AM

Maybe @skatewood.eu ?

Thanks!

I follow that one, not sure from when, but I guess if it is not shown on here, I forgot it somehow.


https://www.instagram.com/skatewood.eu/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CkvfZfANNIl/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: metsuri on April 04, 2024, 12:11:25 AM

Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 04, 2024, 02:31:57 AM

Quote from: metsuri on April 04, 2024, 12:11:25 AM

Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?

DSM i guess

Dwindle is a distribution, DSM is the manufacturer

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: metsuri on April 04, 2024, 03:55:11 AM

Quote from: BALARGUE on April 04, 2024, 02:31:57 AM

Quote from: metsuri on April 04, 2024, 12:11:25 AM

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Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?

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DSM i guess

Dwindle is a distribution, DSM is the manufacturer

Ok I see, thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 10, 2024, 06:45:41 PM

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.

Quote from: Idk on April 10, 2024, 01:15:55 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/mvy90s6/IMG-4064.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vtH8hg)

This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: non-playable character on April 12, 2024, 02:09:28 AM

Quote from: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

DSM

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2024, 02:40:10 AM

Quote from: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 08:45:19 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2024, 02:40:10 AM

Quote from: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

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Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

Europe

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 12, 2024, 11:15:03 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 10, 2024, 06:45:41 PM

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.

Quote from: Idk on April 10, 2024, 01:15:55 PM

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(https://i.ibb.co/mvy90s6/IMG-4064.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vtH8hg)

This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.

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Pennswood will stamp numbers between bolts and Primitive has used them in the past.  Something about the typeface looks different though but only Pennswood deck I have right now is already gripped.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Idk on April 12, 2024, 02:21:28 PM

Quote from: Musicaldeath107 on April 12, 2024, 11:15:03 AM

Quote from: Woodshop on April 10, 2024, 06:45:41 PM

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.

Quote from: Idk on April 10, 2024, 01:15:55 PM

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(https://i.ibb.co/mvy90s6/IMG-4064.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vtH8hg)

This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.

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Pennswood will stamp numbers between bolts and Primitive has used them in the past.  Something about the typeface looks different though but only Pennswood deck I have right now is already gripped.

Never skated a Pennswood before but this deck is really good. Coming from a Real BBS the transition was easy. The concave is a bit different I’ll say that.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on April 13, 2024, 01:09:59 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2024, 02:40:10 AM

Quote from: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

[close]

Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

Did you look at the photo? It says made in China, so that means Dailan or some similar Chinese shop.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 13, 2024, 02:37:20 AM

Quote from: rikki on April 13, 2024, 01:09:59 AM

Quote from: Mbrimson88 on April 12, 2024, 02:40:10 AM

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Quote from: Schinken on April 12, 2024, 01:57:41 AM

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?

(https://ibb.co/KwQXq78)

Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

[close]

Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

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Did you look at the photo? It says made in China, so that means Dailan or some similar Chinese shop.

Yes, the photo was clear and easy to see.

DSM, aka Dwindle wood, is and has always been made in China, with that pic as classic DSM markings.

The reason I said Zero is most commonly BBS in USA only, hence asking where in the world he was, which as I thought was not in USA, more likely Asia or Europe.


* DSM actually stands for Douglas Street Manufacturing founded in 2003 which is a bit funny, but always shortened to DSM so some people might not realise, or others had always thought it was just "Dwindle Skateboard Manufacturing" as I had thought before I heard the real name.

More info here if anyone is interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwindle_Distribution


;)

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 14, 2024, 12:25:54 AM

hlcdistribution stories show what looks like a HLC factory in Austin TX

With a caption «  HLC USA UP AND RUNNING »

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on April 14, 2024, 09:08:33 AM

I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: BALARGUE on April 14, 2024, 10:47:47 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on April 14, 2024, 09:08:33 AM

I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.

Their recent factory in Spain from a couple years back has that automated / modern stuff. Would make sense they replicate that in the other factory.

@Mbrimson88 i didn’t see that coming to be honest in those times and economy.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 14, 2024, 02:54:21 PM

Quote from: BALARGUE on April 14, 2024, 10:47:47 AM

Quote from: ImmanuelCunt on April 14, 2024, 09:08:33 AM

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I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.

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Their recent factory in Spain from a couple years back has that automated / modern stuff. Would make sense they replicate that in the other factory.

@Mbrimson88 i didn’t see that coming to be honest in those times and economy.

For sure!

That is maybe the only thing that a new establishment has over the older ones, in that they can buy the newest presses and equipment, which are almost all automated now, just the human there to make sure things go as planned.

I guess though, that adds up to enough to pay fewer wages, so they can operate in USA at a lower overall cost to make the boards, compared to other woodshops having to go to cheaper wage countries for production.

All part of the process, but very interesting, none the less.

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Post by: j....soy..... on April 14, 2024, 10:24:33 PM

So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

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Post by: rikki on April 14, 2024, 11:20:59 PM

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

HLC Europe boards are good. They might feel a tiny bit thicker than average to some, but overall they are solid decks. Especially the high concave shapes are great.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on April 14, 2024, 11:49:20 PM

Quote from: j....soy..... on April 14, 2024, 10:24:33 PM

So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

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Post by: rikki on April 15, 2024, 02:18:10 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

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Post by: moonordie on April 15, 2024, 07:18:24 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on April 15, 2024, 07:59:19 AM

Quote from: moonordie on April 15, 2024, 07:18:24 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcumgxl8wX/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a510fc71-cadc-4fd5-8a35-d42111a22f45
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVmDLc0ivAhHYW8W5244p9_rnnp67qH1w2y2ZOsdZHf30TBjCfXsqR4aTMhJg0UR7xNEnp7YCDv2NCyQ5J0LPDwcLQadFHP8hqmvYvEXCk5AAlm-X7lS1PCA&usqp=CAE)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/eXBLoiQB_dyp5GdNzpyI5MVhSJw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/142185-0-JartSkateboards-StayHigh825.jpg)(https://picnicskateshop.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/jart-bae-weed-skate-tabla.jpg)

I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: moonordie on April 15, 2024, 08:34:53 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

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If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcumgxl8wX/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a510fc71-cadc-4fd5-8a35-d42111a22f45
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVmDLc0ivAhHYW8W5244p9_rnnp67qH1w2y2ZOsdZHf30TBjCfXsqR4aTMhJg0UR7xNEnp7YCDv2NCyQ5J0LPDwcLQadFHP8hqmvYvEXCk5AAlm-X7lS1PCA&usqp=CAE)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/eXBLoiQB_dyp5GdNzpyI5MVhSJw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/142185-0-JartSkateboards-StayHigh825.jpg)(https://picnicskateshop.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/jart-bae-weed-skate-tabla.jpg)

I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

Add Sour and maybe Flip.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pointandclick on April 15, 2024, 09:22:48 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

[close]

If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcumgxl8wX/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a510fc71-cadc-4fd5-8a35-d42111a22f45
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVmDLc0ivAhHYW8W5244p9_rnnp67qH1w2y2ZOsdZHf30TBjCfXsqR4aTMhJg0UR7xNEnp7YCDv2NCyQ5J0LPDwcLQadFHP8hqmvYvEXCk5AAlm-X7lS1PCA&usqp=CAE)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/eXBLoiQB_dyp5GdNzpyI5MVhSJw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/142185-0-JartSkateboards-StayHigh825.jpg)(https://picnicskateshop.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/jart-bae-weed-skate-tabla.jpg)

I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

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Add Sour and maybe Flip.

i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on April 15, 2024, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: pointandclick on April 15, 2024, 09:22:48 AM

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

[close]

Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

[close]

Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

[close]

If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcumgxl8wX/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a510fc71-cadc-4fd5-8a35-d42111a22f45
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVmDLc0ivAhHYW8W5244p9_rnnp67qH1w2y2ZOsdZHf30TBjCfXsqR4aTMhJg0UR7xNEnp7YCDv2NCyQ5J0LPDwcLQadFHP8hqmvYvEXCk5AAlm-X7lS1PCA&usqp=CAE)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/eXBLoiQB_dyp5GdNzpyI5MVhSJw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/142185-0-JartSkateboards-StayHigh825.jpg)(https://picnicskateshop.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/jart-bae-weed-skate-tabla.jpg)

I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

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Add Sour and maybe Flip.

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i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.

Yeah. Don't think flips been relevant for a while. Has anyone on the team put out any footage recently besides Tom? Also, graphics are ass.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: camel filters on April 15, 2024, 10:56:54 AM

The name is Jart. It was already an uphill battle and they decided to put on ankle weights with those graphics.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: malevy on April 15, 2024, 11:33:29 AM

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

[close]

Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

[close]

Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

[close]

If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcumgxl8wX/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a510fc71-cadc-4fd5-8a35-d42111a22f45
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVmDLc0ivAhHYW8W5244p9_rnnp67qH1w2y2ZOsdZHf30TBjCfXsqR4aTMhJg0UR7xNEnp7YCDv2NCyQ5J0LPDwcLQadFHP8hqmvYvEXCk5AAlm-X7lS1PCA&usqp=CAE)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/eXBLoiQB_dyp5GdNzpyI5MVhSJw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/142185-0-JartSkateboards-StayHigh825.jpg)(https://picnicskateshop.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/jart-bae-weed-skate-tabla.jpg)

I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

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Add Sour and maybe Flip.

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i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.

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Yeah. Don't think flips been relevant for a while. Has anyone on the team put out any footage recently besides Tom? Also, graphics are ass.

Alec Majerus had a part a few months ago that I enjoyed. Kinda a shame he's still on the brand lol

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: j....soy..... on April 15, 2024, 02:06:00 PM

North America is pretty saturated and as much as Jart may not be cool…Sour sure is, it just wasn’t well distributed here and TBH when I found out they weren’t BBS, I shied away from them.  This is good to hear.  Automation is interesting for sure, I just didn’t think we would have seen it so soon. I can see the benefits….less transportation, less slave labour….i just assumed heavy financing up front but I guess if HLC has it dialed, maybe not….

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on April 15, 2024, 02:06:51 PM

Sk8supply who are connected to G&S and took over the Watson pressing, cutting equipment, I believe.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5yvW3avAJR/?img_index=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 15, 2024, 03:06:06 PM

Quote from: fernando the skater on April 15, 2024, 02:06:51 PM

Sk8supply who are connected to G&S and took over the Watson pressing, cutting equipment, I believe.

Thanks for the post.


Seems there are quite a few links from those guys I just followed another half dozen accounts to do with woodshops, skateboard manufacturing, etc.



https://www.instagram.com/sk8supplydotcom/

Their old school skate shop


https://www.instagram.com/SK8supplymfg/

The woodshop itself with only a few posts so far, but interesting to see.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 15, 2024, 03:15:49 PM

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This is one of those other links from the previous one that came up.

Thought it could do with it's own post instead of tagging it on to the last one.



https://www.instagram.com/tim_simmons_93/

Tim Simmons - Shapes Skateboard Co.
Manufacturing skateboards in Clearwater, FL
shapesskateboardco
arcanumskateboards
curbdogs_skateboard_rails
shapesskateboardco.com


https://www.instagram.com/shapesskateboardco/

Shapes Skateboard Co
Skateboard printing & custom manufacturing
- no minimums for boards or graphics
- fast turnaround times for standard shapes
- die cut stickers
shapesskateboardco.com


https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxt3qC7sKRG/


Always something really satisfying about seeing a board getting shaped, not that I ride any of these old 80s shaped boards much anymore like I used to back in the 80s, but they are still a lot of fun to roll around on.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C5W1l9ZJnSb/

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: rikki on April 15, 2024, 11:09:16 PM

Ok, yeah, so Jart comes off like a white trust fund kid reggae band. Yawn.

Speaking of Sour/HLC, I've had a good time with their 8.25 Jatta model recently, but I think I prefer going back to good old BBS after that. Missing that overall slimmer feel with a bit steeper kicks.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: roba on April 15, 2024, 11:40:57 PM

new hardbody boards are ps stix, according to their website

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Ghost Face on April 16, 2024, 12:01:15 AM

Does HLC setting up in the US mean that those brands with 3 different woodshops (US, Eu, Ch) would potentially now have 2 ie HLC-euro and HLC-usa.

Will HLC take the manufacturing away from BBS, PSstix etc and no more China?

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 17, 2024, 05:43:12 PM

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I just noticed that the skatesamples.com site now has the full board dimensions list pic as part of each board listing, which is good, as they didn't have that up before.


Not going to just post the pic here, but going to any of their deck listings, you can easily see, copy or save the image.


https://skatesamples.com/products/blank-deck-premium-2-dye

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: pugmaster on April 18, 2024, 08:50:08 PM

@Woodshop Hey there, I know this isn't wood specific, but given your knowledge base I thought you were the most appropriate person to ask this question.

Are you aware of any retailers that offer heat transfer services without having to purchase the board from them OR places where you can purchase custom heat transfers from to complete it myself?

I like BBS and want to use their wood for a small project. I know there are a few sites that offer custom graphics, but none of them are on BBS, to the best of my knowledge.

Thanks!

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on April 19, 2024, 05:21:23 AM

@pugmaster so some of the smaller business don’t even print their transfers in house. Sometimes they’ll order them from china for super cheap adding a few weeks to production time. I’m sure Ryan gallant and Baltimore board brewery are printing transfers in house. Wouldn’t hurt to ask them.

The thing I don’t know is, what kind of transfer it needs to be. There are different kinds of transfers. The most common is Direct to fabric. I’ve printed dtf on a board and it didn’t wasn’t retail quality. I ordered some old stereo heat transfers (which I think are printed differently) and tried to put them on with an iron and a dtf press. Didn’t go well. That roller press they use applies pressure and works well with the curve of a board.

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Post by: pugmaster on April 19, 2024, 12:15:00 PM

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@pugmaster so some of the smaller business don’t even print their transfers in house. Sometimes they’ll order them from china for super cheap adding a few weeks to production time. I’m sure Ryan gallant and Baltimore board brewery are printing transfers in house. Wouldn’t hurt to ask them.

The thing I don’t know is, what kind of transfer it needs to be. There are different kinds of transfers. The most common is Direct to fabric. I’ve printed dtf on a board and it didn’t wasn’t retail quality. I ordered some old stereo heat transfers (which I think are printed differently) and tried to put them on with an iron and a dtf press. Didn’t go well. That roller press they use applies pressure and works well with the curve of a board.

+1 Thanks for the insight. I'll try hitting those folks up. Your experience is exactly why I am glad I asked. I thought to myself, "well I have an iron, I'll just do it myself" but it appears to be more complicated.

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Post by: Woodshop on April 19, 2024, 06:21:01 PM

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@pugmaster so some of the smaller business don’t even print their transfers in house. Sometimes they’ll order them from china for super cheap adding a few weeks to production time. I’m sure Ryan gallant and Baltimore board brewery are printing transfers in house. Wouldn’t hurt to ask them.

The thing I don’t know is, what kind of transfer it needs to be. There are different kinds of transfers. The most common is Direct to fabric. I’ve printed dtf on a board and it didn’t wasn’t retail quality. I ordered some old stereo heat transfers (which I think are printed differently) and tried to put them on with an iron and a dtf press. Didn’t go well. That roller press they use applies pressure and works well with the curve of a board.

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+1 Thanks for the insight. I'll try hitting those folks up. Your experience is exactly why I am glad I asked. I thought to myself, "well I have an iron, I'll just do it myself" but it appears to be more complicated.

Yeah, I really don't know anyone or anywhere, besides a few links I have here in Australia, so at least Twist was able to give you some more info more local to you.

Some places will get transfers made and then allow you to put them on anything, but I feel like having a prior relationship and knowledge in the industry locally here helps, so someone just cold calling a distributor of blanks might not be so receptive to anything like that.

The places I know have minimums for transfers, but even that is not a worry - get 30 printed but only use as many as you want.

Other places are a little less willing to do anything outside of their own transfers on their own boards.

That is my experience anyway.

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Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2024, 09:27:41 PM

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@pugmaster so some of the smaller business don’t even print their transfers in house. Sometimes they’ll order them from china for super cheap adding a few weeks to production time. I’m sure Ryan gallant and Baltimore board brewery are printing transfers in house. Wouldn’t hurt to ask them.

The thing I don’t know is, what kind of transfer it needs to be. There are different kinds of transfers. The most common is Direct to fabric. I’ve printed dtf on a board and it didn’t wasn’t retail quality. I ordered some old stereo heat transfers (which I think are printed differently) and tried to put them on with an iron and a dtf press. Didn’t go well. That roller press they use applies pressure and works well with the curve of a board.

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+1 Thanks for the insight. I'll try hitting those folks up. Your experience is exactly why I am glad I asked. I thought to myself, "well I have an iron, I'll just do it myself" but it appears to be more complicated.

Ryan Gallant used Clutch wood using the K mold which is their tapered shape. I think his minimum orders are 50 with a graphic setup fee.

Drop me a DM if you want the prices.

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: fernando the skater on April 21, 2024, 08:40:06 AM

Claus Grabke was recently at Madrid getting his board made for Skateboarding Hall Of Fame, and took some photographs. They also do Santa Monica Airlines now.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5o9Q3lvBws/?img_index=1

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: lulz on April 21, 2024, 09:32:32 PM

Wow! Thank you Mr Woodshop and Mr Brimson.

This is a ton of work that you did for us. I thought this thread was only the front page, because you put all the stuff I come here for, right there. The sale thread has killer deals, then we come here to see if the deal board is for us, then we make informed decisions.

I don’t have the right words, like:

Muchas gracias mi amigo!  :D

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: TwisT on April 23, 2024, 03:34:11 PM

Idk if this If this one has been posted

https://www.instagram.com/pushmorelongboardsllc?igsh=N2J0Z3B2eXNzc3ox

Title: Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2024 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
Post by: Woodshop on April 23, 2024, 04:47:42 PM

Quote from: TwisT on April 23, 2024, 03:34:11 PM

Idk if this If this one has been posted

https://www.instagram.com/pushmorelongboardsllc?igsh=N2J0Z3B2eXNzc3ox

I wasn't following it, so I would say no, not yet.

Thanks for posting!


Interesting modern looking equipment, just going by the few quick posts I looked at too.

Not going to post some of the custom molds, but that could be an interesting one - your favourite board used to make a custom mold to make more from all the brands you know and love...  :)


https://www.instagram.com/pushmorelongboardsllc/

https://www.pushmorelongboards.com/
https://www.skateboardmold.com/
HILLSBORO, OR


https://www.instagram.com/p/C43bjYPJGpG/