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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: tonyhawksmanywives on March 16, 2022, 03:15:02 PM
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who/what do you think is the prime example of "core skateboarding."
For brands I consider DLX as the most "core" company
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If you are going to ask for a ‘definition’ of core, please provide one.
If you want ‘examples’ of core, that’s different.
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This thread is not core.
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Bryte is clearly the most core thing to ever happen in skateboarding
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Core skateboarding is skating often and pushing yourself for enjoyments sake and just immersing yourself in the culture in someway. Anything that goes against that ethos is not core. Plain and simple.
Ex. Supreme - Core as fuck. Sponsors and pushes grimey street skating to the masses.
Calvin Klein - Not core. Posts models in underwear.
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yeah i agree w the ethos thing, its more about how you do it rather than what you do. would rather watch people do good looking ollies off a curb than see someone switch laser heelflip a 30 stair or whatever
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My pillowcase is made out of griptape. That core enough for your punk ass?
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Your local, or whatever local shop in your city/region that is doing something for the scene. Whether that be helping set up a DIY, initiatives to get a skate park, hosts premiers, helping out a broke kid with busted gear but a clear passion, etc.
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If you feel core. Then you are
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am3pP6CW_S4
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My pillowcase is made out of griptape. That core enough for your punk ass?
Replace your toilet paper with a roll of Jessup like a real man.
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Still doing your most challenging tricks when there are no other skaters to impress and only a bunch of scooter kids at the park is my definition of core skateboarding.
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My pillowcase is made out of griptape. That core enough for your punk ass?
I brush my teeth with a broken hanger, it’s krux though so not terribly hellride
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me
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The exact geographical location of skateboarding's core is directly under the DC logo at the Rob Dyrdek Plaza in Kettering Ohio.
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Look at the history of the skateboarding industry... the best skaters used to be so popular they could flip the industry on it's head (Rodney, Carroll just two examples of many) because they had the board sales/credibility to take their fans with them into their own brand. People try it constantly on a smaller scale. But they were also smart enough and took the risks to pull it off.
When you start involving multi-billion dollar corporations in skate sponsoring, no singular skater can pull off anything like that. The whole idea of "core" thus becomes a relic of the past until all of the major pros and best skaters in the industry completely stop wearing Nike, Adidas, and any brand/company that has a total net worth that's of astronomical value, such that it's impossible to bankrupt them of either all their money or credibility as a skateboard-related company.
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If you were not skating before 1986, you are not and will never be core.
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The exact geographical location of skateboarding's core is directly under the DC logo at the Rob Dyrdek Plaza in Kettering Ohio.
Dig deep enough and you'll find all the unsold pairs of MJ's Lakai pro model
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(https://i.ibb.co/NnPM3mn/C9070-F63-8805-4-C43-A849-C3-E41-D5-F579-C.jpg)
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standing barefoot at the long beach sea port waiting for the latest shipment of state footwear to come in
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When you throw cake at other skaters to assert your dominance
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Skating without bearing shields
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TENT CITY
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p01qv00q.jpg)
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Skating for having fun skateboarding. That‘s the core of skateboarding. Everything else: Fashion, brands, being cool, contest etc. are not core.
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Pants, it‘s all about pants.
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core is what unsuccessful skate companies claim they are when they are jealous
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having fun on your board alone
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Sweaty and pungent.
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gas station food and cramming cigarette butts in your broken bearings
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max schaff
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Me. I'm core skateboarding.
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Dropping out of school. Slamming beers. Pretending you don't care about fashion. Overlooking racism & predatory behaviour because someone looks good doing skateboard tricks. Core AF.
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Making vaguely threatening instagram posts directed at rivals for their relatively tame comments about your fit
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Smoking weed through Indy hollows axle
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Core’s been hollow for some time dude
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Nate Broussard nollie down some stairs with a boner.
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Hardcore? Like some dude in a pool who owns a generator to pump water out and he’s sixty and he doesn’t have TikTok.
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darkstar/ richie jackson
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it's like the z job in a way
if you have to ask, you arent meant to know
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https://www.skateism.com/lets-put-this-shit-to-bed/ (https://www.skateism.com/lets-put-this-shit-to-bed/)
Intro:
Of all skateboarding’s ill-defined buzzwords, “core” seems to be the most popular and the most open to interpretation. It could describe a skater-owned company, a commitment to VX1000 footage and backside flips, or a sweaty skater icing their black eye with a PBR after being knocked down in a moshpit. Core is a rejection of authorities outside of skateboarding and reverence for those within it. It’s a strict set of values, a moral and aesthetic code for skaters who want to fit into established skate culture and, subsequently, gatekeep it. Core can mean that an individual is authentic in their dedication to skateboarding or just that they wear Vans and skate Anti Hero boards. With so many definitions, does core really mean anything at all? Or is it just a made-up nonsense word like hipster or liberty? Hoping to arrive at some objective definition of core, I reached out to the moguls of alternative skate media for their thoughts. Their answers varied enormously, proving that core is in fact completely subjective. There were, however, a few definitions that everyone generally recognized: 1) core is an aesthetic, based on clothing and trick selection, 2) core is about supporting skater-owned brands and shops, and 3) core is just about sincerely loving skateboarding and building a community around it.
Words by Max Harrison-Caldwell
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satan
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fucked up DIY’s and the people who skate em
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Hooking up the homies
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Cored wheels
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Drinking piss and eating dog shit
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Core skateboarding is skateboarding for the love of the act itself with reference and respect to the storied culture at large.
Core companies are owned and operated by other skateboarders.
Q: What even is skateboarding these days?
A: It’s just skating.
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Core skateboarding is skating often and pushing yourself for enjoyments sake and just immersing yourself in the culture in someway. Anything that goes against that ethos is not core. Plain and simple.
Ex. Supreme - Core as fuck. Sponsors and pushes grimey street skating to the masses.
Calvin Klein - Not core. Posts models in underwear.
Lol, are you serious. Yeah about as "core" as Kraft (https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/food-drink/spotlight-kraft-heinz-company) and Burberry (https://monsoonofrandom.com/2018/07/23/burberry-commits-fashion-sin/)
are, their two most recent Hypebeast, false scarcity in the name of capitalism, cash grab collabs. Let me clarify I'm not stating Supreme was never core, they definitely were in the beginning. Now it's a fashion brand and I'm pretty sure they want to be considered that way.
They're about as "core" as Nike at this point which is to say not at all.
I consider companies like Worble, Quasi, Polar, There, Glue as emergent "core* companies of this modern era. Of course nothing is more core than you're local skate shop. I still consider the og’s like Deluxe and NHS as core in general but these smaller companies, local shops are simply the heart of skateboarding. It's that ongoing DIY ethos that keeps our culture fresh/alive.
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Defining core is like naming the Tao.
Once it is named, it ceases to be.
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If i do it, it's core, if you do it, and i don't like it, it's not core
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The boys yelping and stone cold Steve Austin-ing cold ones every time I do a slasher grind
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
Local shit is core.
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
That's just bunch of old guys asking if Ventures would fit nice on *insert wheelbase* deck
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
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Lots of ab crunches, chicken breasts, and broccoli
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Grinding into empty beer cans in a pool.
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
Ace fan boys go far deeper down the rabbit hole than us Venture heads
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satan
I cannot possibly be the only one who gets this and is flatlining right now.
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Skating for yourself
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Wishing for the days
When I first wore this suit
Baby has grown older,
It's no longer cute
Too many voices
They've made me mute
Baby has grown ugly,
It's no longer cute
But I stay on, I stay on
Where do I get off?
On to greener pastures
The core has gotten soft
Look at us today
We've gotten soft and fat
Waiting for the moment,
It's just no coming back
So serious
About the stuff we lack
Dwell upon our memories
But there are no facts
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
Both are cut from the same cloth
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Defining core is like naming the Tao.
Once it is named, it ceases to be.
If i do it, it's core, if you do it, and i don't like it, it's not core
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I love skating but am not very good. Imdon’t have any tricks at all so when I film I use various angles and cuts to just make it look like I’m doing a trick but I’m not actually doing the trick. I am just a soft-core skater.
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Smoking weed through Indy hollows axle
I’ve done this before but with Ventures lol
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Something people barely mention is how looking core is different from being core. For example a friend of mine smoked a joint with Luan Oliveira in a random spot and the dude is the most squeaky clean skater you could see, like the worst thing for his image is the porn bit in the Flip video, even then he's a core skater at heart, because brand image isn't everything. Or like some guys mentioned with Supreme, their brand isn't core at all, it's hypebeast shit, but watching their videos it's pretty obvious those dudes are making some of the most "core" stuff around, shitty filming techniques just because, all over the place soundtrack, hanging out in plazas or in the city, just skating all day.
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Something people barely mention is how looking core is different from being core. For example a friend of mine smoked a joint with Luan Oliveira in a random spot and the dude is the most squeaky clean skater you could see, like the worst thing for his image is the porn bit in the Flip video, even then he's a core skater at heart, because brand image isn't everything. Or like some guys mentioned with Supreme, their brand isn't core at all, it's hypebeast shit, but watching their videos it's pretty obvious those dudes are making some of the most "core" stuff around, shitty filming techniques just because, all over the place soundtrack, hanging out in plazas or in the city, just skating all day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPKWQ8yIQg
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Defining core skateboarding used to be simple. As much as skaters hate being an “organized sport” there was very much a centralized hierarchy within skateboarding similar to that of the NFL. With the NFL there is a typical path to understanding, pursuing, and becoming a professional or being involved somehow in the industry of professional football.
Play as a kid -> train and compete in high school -> play division 1 college football -> get drafted
There are anomalies, drafted out of high school, etc., but this is generally the standard process to becoming a professional football player
The process in skateboarding (pre Instagram/pre olympics):
Play as a kid -> start to develop skills, maybe film a sponsor-me tape -> shop flow, rep flow, company flow -> AM -> PRO
It is important here to define Pro as “engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.” Not just having your name on a board, but having your name on a board, shoe, or sponsor of any kind of a company that makes enough money to support the team riders as a full-time employee. There were and are only a handful of companies that do this. That is where the centralization comes from, and they were all generally located in California.
Being a part of “Core skateboarding” should be defined as being a part of and having a general understanding of and interest in this “process” to becoming a professional. Every kid has a dream of becoming a pro so they study and learn (watch skate videos, go to demos, go to the skatepark) how to do that.
In the 2000’s, if you went to a skatepark, everyone generally understood “process”. You didn’t have to be on track to even becoming sponsored, but you understood the “process” and your position within the heirarchy. Talent + effort was recognized and filtered through the best skateboarders to the same centralized destination.
With ongoing development of the internet and social media, globalization has decentralized skateboarding, which has revealed several issues with the “process”, and provided alternative routes to getting a paycheck through skateboarding (revive, braille, youtube, etc.). Now “core” is more difficult to define, but I would argue should be defined similarly.
Although always changing, there is a “process”. Deal with it and move on. If you want to choose an alternative path, feel free. But to act as if you aren’t aware that you have chosen an alternative path is where the tomfoolery begins.
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Defining core skateboarding used to be simple. As much as skaters hate being an “organized sport” there was very much a centralized hierarchy within skateboarding similar to that of the NFL. With the NFL there is a typical path to understanding, pursuing, and becoming a professional or being involved somehow in the industry of professional football.
Play as a kid -> train and compete in high school -> play division 1 college football -> get drafted
There are anomalies, drafted out of high school, etc., but this is generally the standard process to becoming a professional football player
The process in skateboarding (pre Instagram/pre olympics):
Play as a kid -> start to develop skills, maybe film a sponsor-me tape -> shop flow, rep flow, company flow -> AM -> PRO
It is important here to define Pro as “engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.” Not just having your name on a board, but having your name on a board, shoe, or sponsor of any kind of a company that makes enough money to support the team riders as a full-time employee. There were and are only a handful of companies that do this. That is where the centralization comes from, and they were all generally located in California.
Being a part of “Core skateboarding” should be defined as being a part of and having a general understanding of and interest in this “process” to becoming a professional. Every kid has a dream of becoming a pro so they study and learn (watch skate videos, go to demos, go to the skatepark) how to do that.
In the 2000’s, if you went to a skatepark, everyone generally understood “process”. You didn’t have to be on track to even becoming sponsored, but you understood the “process” and your position within the heirarchy. Talent + effort was recognized and filtered through the best skateboarders to the same centralized destination.
With ongoing development of the internet and social media, globalization has decentralized skateboarding, which has revealed several issues with the “process”, and provided alternative routes to getting a paycheck through skateboarding (revive, braille, youtube, etc.). Now “core” is more difficult to define, but I would argue should be defined similarly.
Although always changing, there is a “process”. Deal with it and move on. If you want to choose an alternative path, feel free. But to act as if you aren’t aware that you have chosen an alternative path is where the tomfoolery begins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJehlr1tEw
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If I have to tell you what it is to be core, you'll never understand and never be core. It's an exercise in futility.
If the owner of a company doesn't skate currently, the company isn't core.
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Sick Boyz vid
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Defining core skateboarding used to be simple. As much as skaters hate being an “organized sport” there was very much a centralized hierarchy within skateboarding similar to that of the NFL. With the NFL there is a typical path to understanding, pursuing, and becoming a professional or being involved somehow in the industry of professional football.
Play as a kid -> train and compete in high school -> play division 1 college football -> get drafted
There are anomalies, drafted out of high school, etc., but this is generally the standard process to becoming a professional football player
The process in skateboarding (pre Instagram/pre olympics):
Play as a kid -> start to develop skills, maybe film a sponsor-me tape -> shop flow, rep flow, company flow -> AM -> PRO
It is important here to define Pro as “engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.” Not just having your name on a board, but having your name on a board, shoe, or sponsor of any kind of a company that makes enough money to support the team riders as a full-time employee. There were and are only a handful of companies that do this. That is where the centralization comes from, and they were all generally located in California.
Being a part of “Core skateboarding” should be defined as being a part of and having a general understanding of and interest in this “process” to becoming a professional. Every kid has a dream of becoming a pro so they study and learn (watch skate videos, go to demos, go to the skatepark) how to do that.
In the 2000’s, if you went to a skatepark, everyone generally understood “process”. You didn’t have to be on track to even becoming sponsored, but you understood the “process” and your position within the heirarchy. Talent + effort was recognized and filtered through the best skateboarders to the same centralized destination.
With ongoing development of the internet and social media, globalization has decentralized skateboarding, which has revealed several issues with the “process”, and provided alternative routes to getting a paycheck through skateboarding (revive, braille, youtube, etc.). Now “core” is more difficult to define, but I would argue should be defined similarly.
Although always changing, there is a “process”. Deal with it and move on. If you want to choose an alternative path, feel free. But to act as if you aren’t aware that you have chosen an alternative path is where the tomfoolery begins.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fc/65/6a/fc656ac3e9ba2948d6e49d61820e2c04--cheetah-print-beach-condo.jpg)
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Defining core skateboarding used to be simple. As much as skaters hate being an “organized sport” there was very much a centralized hierarchy within skateboarding similar to that of the NFL. With the NFL there is a typical path to understanding, pursuing, and becoming a professional or being involved somehow in the industry of professional football.
Play as a kid -> train and compete in high school -> play division 1 college football -> get drafted
There are anomalies, drafted out of high school, etc., but this is generally the standard process to becoming a professional football player
The process in skateboarding (pre Instagram/pre olympics):
Play as a kid -> start to develop skills, maybe film a sponsor-me tape -> shop flow, rep flow, company flow -> AM -> PRO
It is important here to define Pro as “engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.” Not just having your name on a board, but having your name on a board, shoe, or sponsor of any kind of a company that makes enough money to support the team riders as a full-time employee. There were and are only a handful of companies that do this. That is where the centralization comes from, and they were all generally located in California.
Being a part of “Core skateboarding” should be defined as being a part of and having a general understanding of and interest in this “process” to becoming a professional. Every kid has a dream of becoming a pro so they study and learn (watch skate videos, go to demos, go to the skatepark) how to do that.
In the 2000’s, if you went to a skatepark, everyone generally understood “process”. You didn’t have to be on track to even becoming sponsored, but you understood the “process” and your position within the heirarchy. Talent + effort was recognized and filtered through the best skateboarders to the same centralized destination.
With ongoing development of the internet and social media, globalization has decentralized skateboarding, which has revealed several issues with the “process”, and provided alternative routes to getting a paycheck through skateboarding (revive, braille, youtube, etc.). Now “core” is more difficult to define, but I would argue should be defined similarly.
Although always changing, there is a “process”. Deal with it and move on. If you want to choose an alternative path, feel free. But to act as if you aren’t aware that you have chosen an alternative path is where the tomfoolery begins.
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A real answer:
Those at the center of the scene. They are heavily involved or influential in the scene, the industry, etc. Their position is opposite of those on the periphery who have limited contact with the scene and limited influence on the scene.
My Answer:
Someone who wears the "right" brands, is slightly better than I was at my peak, and is complete a dickhead and makes every visit to the park miserable because they know they are "cool."
There is a Westchester local in LA who drives me bonkers who fits this bill of "super-core."
Rosemont Park in Montreal is a good place to find tons of core skaters. Many of them will be drinking, snaking everyone else, and letting it be known that they are much more valuable than anyone else in the city. (I don't understand why Mile-End is such a fun park but Rosemont is a nightmare 90% of the time.)
My fav "core" skater is a guy who once worked at Consolidated, was always a fucking asshole to me, but also thought I worked at T-Mobile and I should hook him up with a phone cause he was good at skateboarding and "important" in the scene. Seriously, fuck this dude. Skating fast =/= a personality.
When around the "core" no one is allowed to have fun, because this is skateboarding and skateboarding is serious business.
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4th ply down or up in either direction
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Shoes and Gear Pals are the true core of skateboarding.
That’s right we’re Shoes and Gear the true core
Also I second Sick Boys video
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I need to work on my core strength. A strong core helps with back injuries
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Hitting the refresh button on the heated wheel website a handful of times a day to see if they have the Polarizer that I want in stock
https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/polarizers
That's core?
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Journey To Skate The Center Of The Earth: Hellride The Planet’s Core.
Doesn’t get much more fucking core than that.