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Title: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: KGB on March 18, 2022, 09:20:43 AM
I have to say that a scooped out hard flip just can’t compare to a solid frontside varial flip.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpGA0azFdCs
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: JugeL on March 18, 2022, 09:24:04 AM
Frontside shuvit kickflip
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: sizzle_chest on March 18, 2022, 09:25:55 AM
Apples to apples. Trick is trash. I cancelled them decades ago. Never landed one. Best life choice I ever made.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: coldbrew on March 18, 2022, 09:30:18 AM
How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: SR ACF on March 18, 2022, 09:39:34 AM
Is frontside varial even a thing? I highly doubt it. What you're looking for is an inward kickflip. But nothing will ever compare to a decent illusion flip
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: roba on March 18, 2022, 09:45:30 AM
How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.

one of my friends does them like that, completely horizontal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrccCLWdnw

4:48 and 17:10
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: S. on March 18, 2022, 09:47:18 AM
How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.

Deawon's at 3:54 is clearly done the varial flip way. They say it is the first hardflip on video.

https://youtu.be/g5yCPfLgYB8
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: S. on March 18, 2022, 09:48:45 AM
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How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
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one of my friends does them like that, completely horizontal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrccCLWdnw

4:48 and 17:10

that's trippy! It looks cool too.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: KGB on March 18, 2022, 09:50:04 AM
Is frontside varial even a thing? I highly doubt it. What you're looking for is an inward kickflip. But nothing will ever compare to a decent illusion flip
if a varial heel can be frontside why not a varial flip? You don’t actually call a varial flip a inward kick flip do ya? The difference is flipping after popping not all the same motion. But not late flipping.I know suttle but pop shove then flip halfway finish spinning catch land. Could it be true???
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: somefucker on March 18, 2022, 09:51:02 AM
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Is frontside varial even a thing? I highly doubt it. What you're looking for is an inward kickflip. But nothing will ever compare to a decent illusion flip
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if a varial heel can be frontside why not a varial flip? You don’t actually call a varial flip a inward kick flip do ya? The difference is flipping after popping not all the same motion. But not late flipping.I know suttle but pop shove then flip halfway finish spinning catch land. Could it be true???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: KGB on March 18, 2022, 09:53:35 AM
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How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
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one of my friends does them like that, completely horizontal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrccCLWdnw

4:48 and 17:10

Yeah that’s what I’m trying to say, keep it flat
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: KGB on March 18, 2022, 09:56:41 AM
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Is frontside varial even a thing? I highly doubt it. What you're looking for is an inward kickflip. But nothing will ever compare to a decent illusion flip
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if a varial heel can be frontside why not a varial flip? You don’t actually call a varial flip a inward kick flip do ya? The difference is flipping after popping not all the same motion. But not late flipping.I know suttle but pop shove then flip halfway finish spinning catch land. Could it be true???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4

LMAO
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: ish_wav on March 18, 2022, 10:13:10 AM
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Is frontside varial even a thing? I highly doubt it. What you're looking for is an inward kickflip. But nothing will ever compare to a decent illusion flip
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if a varial heel can be frontside why not a varial flip? You don’t actually call a varial flip a inward kick flip do ya? The difference is flipping after popping not all the same motion. But not late flipping.I know suttle but pop shove then flip halfway finish spinning catch land. Could it be true???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4

Lol end thread
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on March 18, 2022, 10:41:02 AM
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How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
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one of my friends does them like that, completely horizontal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrccCLWdnw

4:48 and 17:10

That’s just a poorly done hard flip. Frontside varial flip does not exist.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Brguy on March 18, 2022, 10:42:50 AM
You can't do a proper hardflip these days if you spin it like a "frontside varial flip", if you pop high doing this it just sticks to your foot and fucks everything up. I don't like the overly vertical ones either, to me it has to spin diagonal and fast-ish to look cool.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: botefdunn on March 18, 2022, 10:58:20 AM
prefer bs shuv hardflips myself
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Mr. Stinky on March 18, 2022, 12:08:35 PM
I don't like the overly vertical ones either, to me it has to spin diagonal and fast-ish to look cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JovOwQRZ40&t=114s

2:25 good example of that, probably my favorite hardflip ever. 
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: SR ACF on March 18, 2022, 12:25:04 PM
There are inward kickflips and heelflips just as there are varial kickflips and heelflips. The 180 rotation of the board is opposed for kickflip and heelflip because the "inward" refers to shoving the board to where your foot is also flicking off the board. Just google varial (kick)flip, varial heel, inward heel and inward kf. There are very detailed trickiest for each where you can see for yourself.

Inward KF = hardflip, the illusion flip method just cane wildly into fashion in the late 90s to where they were just very angled pop shove it's. by the mid 00s it was Sean malto et et who established the flatter and more technical method that Darwon pioneered. Heitor da Silva is bringing the vertical muskaflips back in an ironic steezy way.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: bob george on March 18, 2022, 02:35:36 PM
improper use of prince to make a bad point.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Brguy on March 18, 2022, 03:09:40 PM
Nollie hardflips get a pass for being vertical, fakie a bit less though and switch is good because if you're landing them is already more than most.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Molte on March 18, 2022, 04:27:42 PM
Fs 180 no body switch to kickedy flipedy
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: KGB on March 18, 2022, 05:27:02 PM
improper use of prince to make a bad point.

Ok well I guess I can’t argue with you lol
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Hypnotoad on March 18, 2022, 05:37:23 PM
There are inward kickflips and heelflips just as there are varial kickflips and heelflips. The 180 rotation of the board is opposed for kickflip and heelflip because the "inward" refers to shoving the board to where your foot is also flicking off the board. Just google varial (kick)flip, varial heel, inward heel and inward kf. There are very detailed trickiest for each where you can see for yourself.

Inward KF = hardflip, the illusion flip method just cane wildly into fashion in the late 90s to where they were just very angled pop shove it's. by the mid 00s it was Sean malto et et who established the flatter and more technical method that Darwon pioneered. Heitor da Silva is bringing the vertical muskaflips back in an ironic steezy way.

God damn it this actually makes sense and I’m furious about it.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Makaveli on March 18, 2022, 08:02:13 PM
Hardflip is a frontside varial flip y’all dumb
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: bbk on March 18, 2022, 08:29:05 PM
Proper hardflips are cool, illusion flips suck ass always in every way. It's not rocket science...
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Krooked antihero on March 18, 2022, 11:09:14 PM
How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
Carroll in Modus.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: banksandledges on March 19, 2022, 07:20:32 AM
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How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
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Carroll in Modus.

Can’t believe it took this many replies. Have a gnar. 
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: coldbrew on March 19, 2022, 08:30:40 AM
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How many examples of that trick really are there? Only one I can think of is Herman in This Is Skateboarding and even that borders the line of a hardflip.
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Carroll in Modus.
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Can’t believe it took this many replies. Have a gnar.

Got a gnar as well for that not being the first one that came to mind for me too.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Mean salto on March 19, 2022, 08:48:27 AM
When I started skating we didn't even consider the Muska hardflip and the frontside varial flip the same trick. We even called Muska frontside flips 180 hardflips. Personally I prefer the Muska style because it looks cleaner. I hate the knock knees half shifty let's twist again dance frontshove flip. Herman gets the credit for bringing back the hardflip legit but PJ over the bar 0:46 is the first legit medium hardflip I remember seeing that I liked. ( He does one down stairs earlier in the part but it doesn't look the same)
https://youtu.be/68hSZm5GFOY
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: Sad dad on March 19, 2022, 11:11:46 AM
Anthony Pappalardo has one in IE. one of my favorite hard flips.
Title: Re: Frontside Varial Flips look better than Hardflips
Post by: marty mcfly on March 19, 2022, 03:48:05 PM
Pennys nollie hardflip with white shell toes in germany  (videoradio)