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Title: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dooky-shoes on March 23, 2022, 06:19:40 PM
Primitive has gone too far. Megadeth? What the fuck
At least their other collabs were relevant to their fanbase.

Next up DGK doing a Pantera collab
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Candied cigarettes on March 23, 2022, 06:37:39 PM
Primitive has gone too far. Megadeth? What the fuck
At least their other collabs were relevant to their fanbase.

Next up DGK doing a Pantera collab

Right cause kikkoman was super relevant
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dooky-shoes on March 23, 2022, 06:50:07 PM
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Primitive has gone too far. Megadeth? What the fuck
At least their other collabs were relevant to their fanbase.

Next up DGK doing a Pantera collab
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Right cause kikkoman was super relevant
Relevant to their fanbase.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Mean salto on March 23, 2022, 06:55:00 PM
I think they have a pretty big fanbase of people who just like to collect shit. So they will probably be fine.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ziggy on March 23, 2022, 07:24:50 PM
wearing merch of bands you don’t listen to sounds exactly like Primitive’s fanbase

some Kardashian wearing Slayer shirts kinda shit
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 23, 2022, 07:30:14 PM
I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: mamba on March 23, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Good for primitive, raking in that money. They have their niche in skateboarding. That being said, I think they are corny as fuck and definitely won’t buy anything from them.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Uh Oh on March 23, 2022, 07:50:53 PM
Whattya mean I don’t believe in P-Rod, talk to him everyday..
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: MusclesMarinara on March 23, 2022, 07:52:31 PM
I'm a simple man, I like Megadeth and Primitive.

Also end thread

Whattya mean I don’t believe in P-Rod, talk to him everyday..
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: urbneathme on March 23, 2022, 08:10:15 PM
honestly i’m just impressed megadeth could pull off a deal with a company as big as primitive. this is the most relevant they’ve been in 25 years
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: left knee cap on March 23, 2022, 08:11:41 PM
they're about to come up with a Zildjian collab and I think... they've finally gotten me.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 23, 2022, 08:11:45 PM
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Primitive has gone too far. Megadeth? What the fuck
At least their other collabs were relevant to their fanbase.

Next up DGK doing a Pantera collab
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Right cause kikkoman was super relevant
hahaha!
GMO soy bean gains son
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: pro club blanks on March 23, 2022, 08:21:38 PM
Core sells but whos buying
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Underpressureflips on March 23, 2022, 08:27:13 PM
So I’m gonna get a heavily discounted megadeth shirt on zumiez in 6 months
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 23, 2022, 08:27:36 PM
The T2 collab was out of left field, but I have to admit it wasn’t the worst idea. Same with the Mr Rogers neighbourhood collection.

Primitive still doesn’t strongly appeal to me, but it’s getting more palatable and the team is overshadowing the image. I was eyeing wade’s night of the jaguar deck awhile back.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Gab on March 23, 2022, 08:28:40 PM
they're about to come up with a Zildjian collab and I think... they've finally gotten me.

That’s actually rad, but if they do a Paiste collab I’m in
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: EdLawndale on March 23, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
The only piece of Primitive clothing that's on my radar rn is that Terminator 2 puffy jacket and I went to go buy it during their flash sale but they didn't have anything larger than a L.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 23, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
If only Consolidated did a collab with something besides an inflated sense of superiority they might still be around
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Cthunderw on March 23, 2022, 10:04:51 PM
When you want to skate Spenny and Wade decks with those tasty Ventures but you don’t have $115 for some Naruto bullshit.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: sus on March 23, 2022, 10:42:19 PM
I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Lou Strux on March 23, 2022, 10:51:30 PM
I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist
Speaking of Colt 45, no less than Billy D. Williams, himself, once confided in me that Colt 45 does NOT, in fact, work every time.
True story.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: TheLurper on March 23, 2022, 11:10:28 PM
P-Rod is a talented kook and Dave Mustaine is a talented kook what is not to get?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on March 23, 2022, 11:17:42 PM
I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist

Lakai and Pacifico.  Maybe the ever successful trunk boys will make a comeback. 

I’ll say this. The primitive team is perhaps the best out there.   Honestly stacked with talent.  I don’t own anything primitive and don’t pay enough attention to all the collabs. Just saw the Pacifico Lakais at the local. 

Carlos Ribiero is gonna out out some serious material this year.  Miles is consistent.  I like Frankie.  PRod feels like he’s up to something. Tiago … them Brazilian rippers.  Spencer.  I’m sure I forgot someone. Miles Silva. 

However both can exist.  Being stacked and solid specific to team while absolutely rubbish in the product / design / style.  But a bunch of old dudes on slap are probably not the best measure of what is cool.   
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Hefe43 on March 24, 2022, 12:10:03 AM

However both can exist.  Being stacked and solid specific to team while absolutely rubbish in the product / design / style.  But a bunch of old dudes on slap are probably not the best measure of what is cool.   

Has there been any other teams as talented that have the same product situation?

They remind me of a mid/late 90s brand with they cartoon  graphics. Like Shortys, DNA, Angel Boy, fucking golden state wheel company. Shit that the prod would’ve grew up on

The constant collabs definitely don’t help them fly under the radar
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on March 24, 2022, 12:19:09 AM
their boards are good. so there's that. i like the team, the videos, and the bloards.
and also i really don't care about any of these recent collaborations they are doing.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Hyliannightmare on March 24, 2022, 12:48:15 AM
Four horsemen>>>>>>mechanix
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: lk130 on March 24, 2022, 02:07:24 AM
How is this topic still going
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ziggy on March 24, 2022, 02:15:35 AM
Primitive is the Forever 21 of skateboarding
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Captain Creampie on March 24, 2022, 03:35:41 AM
The post Op recovery video of Giovanni whatever his surname is was quite frankly the least original/inspiring edit that could've been released in god knows how long.... not like its something uncommon so many skateboarders have that injury, why they bothered is beyond me.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 24, 2022, 04:23:23 AM
I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.

im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Síota on March 24, 2022, 04:50:19 AM
Core sells but whos buying

Hahahaha

Mean while Palace is doing cars with AMG Mercedes Hahahaha.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Trilogy on March 24, 2022, 05:03:52 AM
Same reason why they have Franky Villani on the team.

If they put another fresh\tech skater on the team or they make a Wu-Tang or Snoop Dogg collaboration it would be too obvious.

This way they expand their clients ( this is a business after all ).

I think its a smart move.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Prostate Exam on March 24, 2022, 05:09:19 AM
I am still waiting for the Primitive X Dulcolax collab
Shit's gonna hit the fan
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: thebacker on March 24, 2022, 05:11:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbeffdeLJ00
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 24, 2022, 05:25:42 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive


not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.

...

Word on slap is that primitive is able to to treat their riders well, of course they aren't the ones raking in the money from Naruto collabs.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: backside_reacharound on March 24, 2022, 05:38:40 AM
Keep doing the collabs P-Rod.

People don't realize that it's companies like Nike that make money off skateboarders and then spend that money on corporate shit like their jock sports programs. (The Janoski is one of the best selling shoes of all time at Nike, if you think they invested all that back into the skate program you're a moron x 1000000)

Primitive doing collabs with random ass shit allows them to bring more money into skateboarding by selling lots of product to non-skateboarders. This is a good thing.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: annoyingskateshopemployee on March 24, 2022, 05:40:19 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive


not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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Word on slap is that primitive is able to to treat their riders well, of course they aren't the ones raking in the money from Naruto collabs.


those collabs will make the company more stable and therefore its paying back to the riders in a big way.
more money = more pro model drops a year.
primitive does have the marketing for it for me not to care while habitat and their wannabe ecological guitar playing white people allowed marketing doesnt. its like not getting mad at mcdonalds that they use plastic toys in the happy meal but when subway does it you think they are fake.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: halfcabcrook on March 24, 2022, 06:07:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbeffdeLJ00
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 24, 2022, 06:18:02 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive


not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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Word on slap is that primitive is able to to treat their riders well, of course they aren't the ones raking in the money from Naruto collabs.

Oh I believe that Primitive treats their riders well

my only point is that if the company gets X amount of money for a collab, that doesn't mean the money for people who ride for primitive goes up X amount.

The benefits to the riders are (as someone above mentioned) indirect, as Primitive being more financially sound and stable allows them to do more things that benefit the riders. My only point is that the lions share of money, will always go to the founders.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Youoverthere on March 24, 2022, 07:11:08 AM
Four horsemen>>>>>>mechanix
first mistake... last mistake.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: rawbertson. on March 24, 2022, 07:15:31 AM
primitive x dbz was like printing money. loved that collab. if they did a street fighter collab id buy it (i bought one of the huf boards)
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: layzieyez on March 24, 2022, 07:18:42 AM
Even if you've never listened to a megadeth album, you're familiar with what constitutes their album covers which have been consistent. I'd argue that they're one of the best branded bands because of that. The Prod is just printing money again.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on March 24, 2022, 07:45:22 AM
P-Rod praying into his hat for the downfall of all the haters in this thread
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Brguy on March 24, 2022, 07:47:41 AM
The hoodie is acceptable, I'd probably wear it. And as mentioned before, who cares about their dumb merch ideas when their team is stacked the way it is?

honestly i’m just impressed megadeth could pull off a deal with a company as big as primitive. this is the most relevant they’ve been in 25 years
They got a grammy for their last album, still waiting on the new one though.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on March 24, 2022, 07:51:56 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.

I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dooky-shoes on March 24, 2022, 08:33:51 AM
Even if you've never listened to a megadeth album, you're familiar with what constitutes their album covers which have been consistent. I'd argue that they're one of the best branded bands because of that. The Prod is just printing money again.

Megadeth has a classic aesthetic and is a great band(i walked away after countdown but still love their stuff)
Primtive has a classic team and great brand.

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum in the skateboarding world but i back them. Looks like they all truly enjoy skating and i watch everything they put out.

I bet they were pushing for metallica but couldn’t get licensing. Metallica and zumiez are a match made in heaven.

Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: rawbertson. on March 24, 2022, 08:39:13 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them

on top of that you dont have to worry about if they have the means to increase your salary in future, renew your contract, have your pay cheque in time, or even worry that they are going to be in buesiness (reality for majority of brands out these days especailly newer ones). also more likely they are going to have a spot there for you whne you retire from skating. hate to say it but frog and last resort may not be around in a few years.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: CrappyChan on March 24, 2022, 08:42:06 AM
I just got a Kidz Sportz MegaDeth board from the 80's. I definitely prefer it to the primitive stuff
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dan_O_86 on March 24, 2022, 08:53:25 AM
This guy at work for our Christmas party gave me a DBZ primitive shirt. He buys a ton of the Naruto shit
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 24, 2022, 09:08:55 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them

compare the slice of profit from that board recieved by the rider, and the amount recieved by the management

thats all i mean
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Fongstarr. on March 24, 2022, 09:20:44 AM
Speaking of DGK, they just made this Street Soldier deck for Henry Sanchez which I totally dig.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1743/8407/products/LENGIF_1800x1800.gif?v=1647042278)
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Style Police on March 24, 2022, 09:22:02 AM
Core sells but whos buying
Collabing is my Business, and Business is Good
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 24, 2022, 09:31:18 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them

another thing.... if your name is on a board you get a percentage of BOARD sales of YOUR BOARD. I would go out on a limb and guess that primitive makes a lot more from clothing sales, than from boards. and riders dont get a percentage of that, right?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: stevedave on March 24, 2022, 09:49:02 AM
not a big primitive fan and i think some of the collabs are kooky, BUT from a biz standpoint, what they're doing is appealing to a larger customer base than just skateboarders.  People who don't skate bought the DBZ shit.  People that don't skate will buy the Megadeath stuff.  I've always thought that about skate shoe companies, and why I never was against Etnies or DC.  What, only skateboarders wear size 9?  Obviously, they are designed for skating/skateboarders, but at the end of the day, most people have 2 feet. 
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: 3D X-Ray Vision on March 24, 2022, 09:52:29 AM
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I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist
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Speaking of Colt 45, no less than Billy D. Williams, himself, once confided in me that Colt 45 does NOT, in fact, work every time.
True story.
You drank malt liquor with Lando Calrissian?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dan_O_86 on March 24, 2022, 10:38:12 AM
Has anyone brought up that bullshit where it looks like people are trying to dance with a skateboard?  I'm not talking flatground, I mean like some other bullshit
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: pbj on March 24, 2022, 10:44:53 AM
Speaking of DGK, they just made this Street Soldier deck for Henry Sanchez which I totally dig.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1743/8407/products/LENGIF_1800x1800.gif?v=1647042278)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZOpRHlX.jpg)

??
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ToySanta on March 24, 2022, 11:07:34 AM
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Speaking of DGK, they just made this Street Soldier deck for Henry Sanchez which I totally dig.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1743/8407/products/LENGIF_1800x1800.gif?v=1647042278)
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(https://i.imgur.com/ZOpRHlX.jpg)

??

(https://webringjustice.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/sanchez03.jpg)
(https://webringjustice.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/sanchez01.jpg)

Henry was first.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Lhotse’s Pit of Death on March 24, 2022, 12:35:07 PM
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Even if you've never listened to a megadeth album, you're familiar with what constitutes their album covers which have been consistent. I'd argue that they're one of the best branded bands because of that. The Prod is just printing money again.
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Megadeth has a classic aesthetic and is a great band(i walked away after countdown but still love their stuff)
Primtive has a classic team and great brand.

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum in the skateboarding world but i back them. Looks like they all truly enjoy skating and i watch everything they put out.

I bet they were pushing for metallica but couldn’t get licensing. Metallica and zumiez are a match made in heaven.
Metallica collaborates with Vans occasionally. It’s all been limited, ie no mall store releases. Makes sense as James actually skated for a little while….Also love Megadeth’s aesthetic. I agree with the output after ‘countdown’ although Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings had some gems.
It is weird that Dave Mustaine went from doing MTV specials for the 1992 Democratic Convention to now being an Alex Jones type hardcore right winger, but Primitive prob doesn't care about the politics of the collaborators.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ThisFuckingDude on March 24, 2022, 02:38:44 PM
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Speaking of DGK, they just made this Street Soldier deck for Henry Sanchez which I totally dig.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1743/8407/products/LENGIF_1800x1800.gif?v=1647042278)
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(https://i.imgur.com/ZOpRHlX.jpg)

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(https://webringjustice.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/sanchez03.jpg)
(https://webringjustice.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/sanchez01.jpg)

Henry was first.
I still can’t believe y’all used to skate bloards shaped like this.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: PatrickSkateman on March 24, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
Speaking of DGK, they just made this Street Soldier deck for Henry Sanchez which I totally dig.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1743/8407/products/LENGIF_1800x1800.gif?v=1647042278)

Got mine.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: brucewillis on March 24, 2022, 07:53:13 PM
Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Faxmachine on March 24, 2022, 09:21:01 PM
Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
Slayer pretty lame
 is it heavy cuz:
Heavy on the war propaganda
Heavy on the racism to people from the Middle East
Heavy on nazi imagery?
Cuz that’s how slayer is
Slayer for bootlickers and marines





Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 24, 2022, 09:22:12 PM
Is it weird that this actually might be the final straw that makes me say fuck Mustaine once and for all? Megadeth has been my favorite band for most of my life but goddamn they're just so unlikeable these days.

At least do your shitty collab with zero or creature. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 24, 2022, 09:33:42 PM
I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist

Lakai x sabbath is fine by me because Riley is a well known sabbath fiend that's been doing music shit for years. That one felt more like hero worship. I have a very hard time believing there's anyone on primitive who can name 10 megadeth songs.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ChrisSennsGirlfriend on March 24, 2022, 10:53:24 PM
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Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
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Slayer pretty lame
 is it heavy cuz:
Heavy on the war propaganda
Heavy on the racism to people from the Middle East
Heavy on nazi imagery?
Cuz that’s how slayer is
Slayer for bootlickers and marines

example?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: backside_reacharound on March 25, 2022, 12:04:30 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
[close]

I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them
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compare the slice of profit from that board recieved by the rider, and the amount recieved by the management

thats all i mean

my man, did you JUST NOW learn how businesses are run and are trying to flex that or what?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 25, 2022, 02:00:51 AM
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Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
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Slayer pretty lame
 is it heavy cuz:
Heavy on the war propaganda
Heavy on the racism to people from the Middle East
Heavy on nazi imagery?
Cuz that’s how slayer is
Slayer for bootlickers and marines
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example?

Did you get that sig from me or did you make your own version? Not hating, Im stoked to see someone else likes it as much as me haha.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Youoverthere on March 25, 2022, 03:25:05 AM
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Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
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Slayer pretty lame
 is it heavy cuz:
Heavy on the war propaganda
Heavy on the racism to people from the Middle East
Heavy on nazi imagery?
Cuz that’s how slayer is
Slayer for bootlickers and marines
SLAYER> rest of the big 4
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on March 25, 2022, 03:48:48 AM
Enjoi x Kreator Collab dropping this spring
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Post by: Youoverthere on March 25, 2022, 04:04:35 AM
Enjoi x Kreator Collab dropping this spring
I was thinking welcome x bolt thrower but it’s kinda the same thought
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 25, 2022, 04:28:05 AM
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Megadeth sounds like a 4kids anime or power rangers oppening. Go listen to Slayer.
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Slayer pretty lame
 is it heavy cuz:
Heavy on the war propaganda
Heavy on the racism to people from the Middle East
Heavy on nazi imagery?
Cuz that’s how slayer is
Slayer for bootlickers and marines

isnt dave mustaine alt-right now?

the metal musician to conservative pipeline is real lol
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 25, 2022, 04:32:17 AM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them
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compare the slice of profit from that board recieved by the rider, and the amount recieved by the management

thats all i mean
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my man, did you JUST NOW learn how businesses are run and are trying to flex that or what?

this is common knowledge, im only posting it because people seem to want to argue with me about it lol
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: yungthug on March 25, 2022, 08:07:53 AM
Maybe it's because SLAP isn't the normal crowd, but I don't quite understand how these collabs between * random intellectual property * and * board company * are such cash cows. I don't think I've ever been at a shop and seen a superhero/ninja turtles/hot sauce x board company board and been like "damn, lemme see THAT one!"

They are generally pretty wack lol. Santa Cruz is probably the worst offender, but Habitat has also done embarrassing collabs with Bob's Burgers and NASA among others. Do they really help keep the lights on that much?

Palace does it and it's cool though. IDK.

The Twin Peaks X Habitat collab gets a pass from me haha.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: milk.razor on March 25, 2022, 08:28:59 AM
The Twin Peaks X Habitat collab gets a pass from me haha.

I might have agreed 10 years ago
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: OldSkater on March 25, 2022, 11:48:22 AM
Maybe it's because SLAP isn't the normal crowd, but I don't quite understand how these collabs between * random intellectual property * and * board company * are such cash cows. I don't think I've ever been at a shop and seen a superhero/ninja turtles/hot sauce x board company board and been like "damn, lemme see THAT one!"

They are generally pretty wack lol. Santa Cruz is probably the worst offender, but Habitat has also done embarrassing collabs with Bob's Burgers and NASA among others. Do they really help keep the lights on that much?

Palace does it and it's cool though. IDK.

The Twin Peaks X Habitat collab gets a pass from me haha.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dooky-shoes on March 25, 2022, 12:30:31 PM
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Even if you've never listened to a megadeth album, you're familiar with what constitutes their album covers which have been consistent. I'd argue that they're one of the best branded bands because of that. The Prod is just printing money again.
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Megadeth has a classic aesthetic and is a great band(i walked away after countdown but still love their stuff)
Primtive has a classic team and great brand.

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum in the skateboarding world but i back them. Looks like they all truly enjoy skating and i watch everything they put out.

I bet they were pushing for metallica but couldn’t get licensing. Metallica and zumiez are a match made in heaven.
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Metallica collaborates with Vans occasionally. It’s all been limited, ie no mall store releases. Makes sense as James actually skated for a little while….Also love Megadeth’s aesthetic. I agree with the output after ‘countdown’ although Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings had some gems.
It is weird that Dave Mustaine went from doing MTV specials for the 1992 Democratic Convention to now being an Alex Jones type hardcore right winger, but Primitive prob doesn't care about the politics of the collaborators.
You might be on to something.
Watching that road to recovery vid from P-rod. He had a trump biography prominently displayed.
Maybe they met on jan 6th
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on March 25, 2022, 02:45:26 PM
Tornado of Souls has the best guitar solo ever
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: augustmoon on March 25, 2022, 02:50:39 PM
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Even if you've never listened to a megadeth album, you're familiar with what constitutes their album covers which have been consistent. I'd argue that they're one of the best branded bands because of that. The Prod is just printing money again.
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Megadeth has a classic aesthetic and is a great band(i walked away after countdown but still love their stuff)
Primtive has a classic team and great brand.

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum in the skateboarding world but i back them. Looks like they all truly enjoy skating and i watch everything they put out.

I bet they were pushing for metallica but couldn’t get licensing. Metallica and zumiez are a match made in heaven.
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Metallica collaborates with Vans occasionally. It’s all been limited, ie no mall store releases. Makes sense as James actually skated for a little while….Also love Megadeth’s aesthetic. I agree with the output after ‘countdown’ although Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings had some gems.
It is weird that Dave Mustaine went from doing MTV specials for the 1992 Democratic Convention to now being an Alex Jones type hardcore right winger, but Primitive prob doesn't care about the politics of the collaborators.
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You might be on to something.
Watching that road to recovery vid from P-rod. He had a trump biography prominently displayed.
Maybe they met on jan 6th

A lot of the 90s “fresh” skaters of the 90s are gnarly right wingers too ie: Henry Sanchez
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Eric Dolphy on March 25, 2022, 03:23:49 PM
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I think it's dope that they take care of their riders. Raking in that zumiez money.
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im not sure you know how companies work

this means more money for the four people who own primitive

not necessarily the riders.

Sure, a company that is raking in more profits MIGHT feel more comfortable paying their riders more

but it doesn't have to be that way, and I would venture a guess, most of these high profile collabs board companies are doing don't end up moving the needle on how much pros are paid.
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I don't think that you understand that when you have a deck with your name on it you get a percentage of sales and that when that deck is available in places like Zumiez you will probably sell more of them
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compare the slice of profit from that board recieved by the rider, and the amount recieved by the management

thats all i mean
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my man, did you JUST NOW learn how businesses are run and are trying to flex that or what?
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this is common knowledge, im only posting it because people seem to want to argue with me about it lol

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Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ziggy on March 25, 2022, 05:22:54 PM
Is it weird that this actually might be the final straw that makes me say fuck Mustaine once and for all? Megadeth has been my favorite band for most of my life but goddamn they're just so unlikeable these days.

Crush ‘Em was when I bailed. Jock anthem shit
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 26, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
I really just like only one Megadeth song. Holy Wars.

Mustaine is weird nowadays.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: DM on March 26, 2022, 10:47:04 AM
Maybe it's because SLAP isn't the normal crowd, but I don't quite understand how these collabs between * random intellectual property * and * board company * are such cash cows. I don't think I've ever been at a shop and seen a superhero/ninja turtles/hot sauce x board company board and been like "damn, lemme see THAT one!"

They are generally pretty wack lol. Santa Cruz is probably the worst offender, but Habitat has also done embarrassing collabs with Bob's Burgers and NASA among others. Do they really help keep the lights on that much?

Palace does it and it's cool though. IDK.

The Twin Peaks X Habitat collab gets a pass from me haha.
Doesn't the guy who does Bobs Burgers do board artwork for Habitat already though, I think that is the link for that one. I can't recall his name rn.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on March 26, 2022, 11:04:09 AM
I really just like only one Megadeth song. Holy Wars.

Mustaine is weird nowadays.

Mustaine has always been a crybaby racists kook
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: augustmoon on March 26, 2022, 11:30:26 AM
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I really just like only one Megadeth song. Holy Wars.

Mustaine is weird nowadays.
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I loved them as a kid, but I relistened to the for the first time in forever the other day and it was all pretty bad.  Peace Sells and earlier are listenable, the rest of it is trash.  Dude sucks as a vocalist

Mustaine has always been a crybaby racists kook
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: whorific on March 26, 2022, 01:38:21 PM
wearing merch of bands you don’t listen to sounds exactly like Primitive’s fanbase

some Kardashian wearing Slayer shirts kinda shit
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: AxionCityStars on March 26, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: ok boomer on March 26, 2022, 02:24:54 PM
"What is Primitive Skate? A skateboard company - we make decks." - Paul Rodriguez
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Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on March 26, 2022, 02:31:03 PM
Primitive the anime board company?
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Post by: R3dBullRox420 on March 26, 2022, 02:31:40 PM
I get where you’re coming from but if it was a shoe company nobody would care as much. Not really sure the correlation between Lakai x Black Sabbath, Vans x Slayer, Nike SB x Gundam or Etnies x Colt 45 are but they all exist

Idk Vans x Slayer isn't too farfetched. A lot of hessians listen to slayer and rock vans. Nike SB has a huge hypebeast following n they do cater to them 1/8 of the time. Hypebeasts like collecting toys including gundam and nike sb has done products appealing to japanese streetwear/design for a while so  it kind of makes sense

Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: mj23 on March 27, 2022, 07:35:32 AM
Does this mean P-Rod is born again Christian now or what
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Lou Strux on March 27, 2022, 07:43:31 AM
Does this mean P-Rod is born again Christian now or what
Wait… are you telling me that the already Christian P-Rod known for praying into his hat has died in order to make way for this newly reborn phoenix of a P-Rod who is still Christian?
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Post by: augustmoon on March 27, 2022, 03:56:08 PM
Does this mean P-Rod is born again Christian now or what

the Rodriguez's been down with JC

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Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Shifty Flip on March 27, 2022, 04:05:01 PM
I opened this thread thinking it'd be about Ryan Lay going to Primitive. Paul skateboardings Stienbrener
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Post by: pro club blanks on March 27, 2022, 10:43:07 PM
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Does this mean P-Rod is born again Christian now or what
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the Rodriguez's been down with JC

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JC of un tallboy
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Dooky-shoes on March 28, 2022, 10:08:16 AM
What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.

I figure we owe the native american a lot. What happened to them is a travesty and they’ve lended their imagery of dream catchers and headdress’ for tattoos to thousands of white people without imagination.
 Let’em have a successful skate company.
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Post by: R3dBullRox420 on March 28, 2022, 04:14:41 PM
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What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.
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I figure we owe the native american a lot. What happened to them is a travesty and they’ve lended their imagery of dream catchers and headdress’ for tattoos to thousands of white people without imagination.
 Let’em have a successful skate company.

Agree with your take on tasteless tattoos and reparations, but I'm pretty sure he meant Indian as in from the southeast Asia subcontinent. Pretty sure it's only ok for actual members of tribes to refer to indigenous ppl as "Indians" at this point
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 28, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
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What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.
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I figure we owe the native american a lot. What happened to them is a travesty and they’ve lended their imagery of dream catchers and headdress’ for tattoos to thousands of white people without imagination.
 Let’em have a successful skate company.
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Agree with your take on tasteless tattoos and reparations, but I'm pretty sure he meant Indian as in from the southeast Asia subcontinent. Pretty sure it's only ok for actual members of tribes to refer to indigenous ppl as "Indians" at this point

I thought American Indian was an acceptable/the preferred nomenclature lately if you are referring to the abstract population.   Individually, refer to them by their tribal name.   
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: left knee cap on March 28, 2022, 10:04:57 PM
Maybe it's because SLAP isn't the normal crowd, but I don't quite understand how these collabs between * random intellectual property * and * board company * are such cash cows. I don't think I've ever been at a shop and seen a superhero/ninja turtles/hot sauce x board company board and been like "damn, lemme see THAT one!"

They are generally pretty wack lol. Santa Cruz is probably the worst offender, but Habitat has also done embarrassing collabs with Bob's Burgers and NASA among others. Do they really help keep the lights on that much?

Palace does it and it's cool though. IDK.

The Twin Peaks X Habitat collab gets a pass from me haha.

*disclaimer asm of a zumiez*

definitely sell more Primitive clothing than we do their hard goods. the appeal for these collabs are mostly people who relate to the collab. what i get told by buyers of these is that usually that the designs are a lot better than what's out there for that specific *insert anime or company here*. so i guess more aesthetically pleasing than what you could find at Hot Topic, FYE, Amazon. as for boards, people usually buy these boards as wall decorations, which can probably explain why these specific Primitive boards are made in China rather than BBS or USA. keep in mind, it's mostly not skaters buying these items. some of them don't even know what Primitive is, they just know the collab, it's hot, and it's what people want.

for sure these collabs aren't for skaters, but it helps for brand recognition for Primitive so maybe and it helps both parties make $$$ in the end. i know a couple people who've come back just to buy Primitive the clothing after buying their collab pieces.

Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: KGB on March 29, 2022, 05:42:16 AM
I was curious why everyone in the last season of Cobra Kai was wearing Primitive gear. I’m sure there was some kinda deal there as well.
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Post by: BALARGUE on March 29, 2022, 06:50:31 AM
What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.

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I don't see any "Indian". It seems they all are americans. Not like it would be a problem but it sure looks like it does matter to you and it makes you a dork.

You won't find many skateboarders who know how to run a company of that scale.
Prod was smart enough to get help from people outside of skateboarding

Yeah it's corny but it seems successful
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Post by: R3dBullRox420 on March 29, 2022, 10:03:55 AM
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What else would you expect? Primitive is literally the worst company of all time. Sure they "take care of" their team but that is nothing but a ploy to sell more products. The company is run by an old Indian guy and his 24 year old son both who have absolutely no knowledge or background in skateboarding. Also, not one employee I've met from this company has had one good thing to say about their experience working there.
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I don't see any "Indian". It seems they all are americans. Not like it would be a problem but it sure looks like it does matter to you and it makes you a dork.

You won't find many skateboarders who know how to run a company of that scale.
Prod was smart enough to get help from people outside of skateboarding

Yeah it's corny but it seems successful

Created by and run by are two different things. Mitch Bhatia has multiple C suite roles at Primitive, and is Indian.
Not sure why the nationality is actually relevant tho... but I think their main point was that brands tend to lose some integrity as they scale and add corporatize.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: Blinded on January 25, 2023, 02:08:37 PM
....Wow cool another primitive collab. Bob Marley after Tupac..what's next star wars? Walking dead? big bang theory? Are skate shops really eating this shit up? Can I get the buy 3 decks for $80 ecom special with these? Team signing at "RSQ" aka Tilly's. Shoutout to the "core" shops carrying what Tilly's carry's. Braille more core than primitive? Anyone else sick of all the collabs out there?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: doublesteveburger on January 25, 2023, 02:13:03 PM
rabble rabble rabble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: landedprimo on January 25, 2023, 02:15:06 PM
Why are we here?
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: GAY on January 25, 2023, 02:39:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=475l85XcGjI
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Post by: hotstudios_on_youtube on January 25, 2023, 02:56:44 PM
crailtap did a collarboration with Herschel a bag company, didn't even make a bag with skateboard straps, no one making a thread about that
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Post by: EXTRA SPICY on January 25, 2023, 03:06:13 PM
crailtap did a collarboration with Herschel a bag company, didn't even make a bag with skateboard straps, no one making a thread about that

Hersch worked at, and is good friends with, the craig crew.
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Post by: e.d. on January 25, 2023, 03:58:00 PM
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Hersch worked at, and is good friends with, the craig crew.

Are you talking about Hershel Baltrotsky? I don’t think he was ever involved with this company.
Title: Re: Primitive is out of control
Post by: greenbeans on January 25, 2023, 04:14:08 PM
Primitive has gone too far. Megadeth? What the fuck
At least their other collabs were relevant to their fanbase.

Next up DGK doing a Pantera collab

As long as they are making profit, they are good. I think you are over analyzing this
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Post by: Watson on January 25, 2023, 05:20:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=475l85XcGjI

I usually get super mad when people bump old threads like this for no good reason and believe me, I'm still mad, but at least Gay introduced me to that song because of it. In return, I offer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAAeKLTT0c
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Post by: Newphone on January 25, 2023, 06:52:02 PM
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I usually get super mad when people bump old threads like this for no good reason and believe me, I'm still mad, but at least Gay introduced me to that song because of it. In return, I offer:



Damned if you start a redundant thread, damned if you bump one. 
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Post by: MFS on January 25, 2023, 08:28:19 PM
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Hersch worked at, and is good friends with, the craig crew.

As someone who knows the brothers behind Herschel I think youre mistaken. They were both in the indusrty prior to starting the brand regardless.
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Post by: roba on January 25, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
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As someone who knows the brothers behind Herschel I think youre mistaken. They were both in the indusrty prior to starting the brand regardless.

didn’t at least one of them do the graphics for girl in early 2010s?
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on January 25, 2023, 09:33:04 PM
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As someone who knows the brothers behind Herschel I think youre mistaken. They were both in the indusrty prior to starting the brand regardless.

 They should start a kiddie skate program à la Element Twigs and call 'em the Herschel Squirts.
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Post by: hotstudios_on_youtube on January 25, 2023, 09:46:15 PM
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Hersch worked at, and is good friends with, the craig crew.

but why would they even collaborate and not make a product not relevant to skateboarding ?
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Post by: j....soy..... on January 25, 2023, 10:47:01 PM
I got an Indy bag from Herschel and it has straps……why isn’t anyone talking about THAT……

Well….it could be because it’s uninteresting…….
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 26, 2023, 02:22:53 AM
Ok. Let’s clear the air here. 

Girl Art Dump guy - Herschel Baltrovsky (sp?)

Herschel bag company - brothers Jamie and Lyndon Cormack adopted the name of the town where three generations of their family grew up.



Now we can proceed