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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: DaleSr on May 02, 2022, 09:17:44 PM
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I'm fucking furious. Start or support your local clinic and get prepared. None of our rights are a given and they're going to keep going until it's fucking 1955 again. I'm not trying to say anything bannable. Fuck the supreme court
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it is amazing Ireland has legal abortion and soon half the US will not. I'm so sick of people who pretend to give a shit about the Constitution but don't understand that church and state are separate. Go practice your religion, but keep your religion the fuck out of my life.
I hope someone who is Jewish sues for the right to have an abortion as:
"Life does not begin at conception under Jewish law. Sources in the Talmud note that the fetus is “mere water” before 40 days of gestation. Following this period, the fetus is considered a physical part of the pregnant individual’s body, not yet having life of its own or independent rights. The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body."
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Coming for miscegenation next.
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it is amazing Ireland has legal abortion and soon half the US will not. I'm so sick of people who pretend to give a shit about the Constitution but don't understand that church and state are separate. Go practice your religion, but keep your religion the fuck out of my life.
I hope someone who is Jewish sues for the right to have an abortion as:
"Life does not begin at conception under Jewish law. Sources in the Talmud note that the fetus is “mere water” before 40 days of gestation. Following this period, the fetus is considered a physical part of the pregnant individual’s body, not yet having life of its own or independent rights. The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body."
Unfortunately we've got a bunch of complete opus dei freaks on the supreme court because the most evil people in our country play to win and because a certain girl boss decided to play chicken with father time
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Saw it coming, but its safe to say that hard-line christian extremism has become defacto rule of law
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Still waiting for a mass American exodus.
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The 'Land of the Free' indeed.
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Still waiting for a mass American exodus.
Don't come here.
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Sad day to be a woman in America. Set the country back 50 years. Hopefully this pisses them off enough to actually vote all these religious conservative dipshits out of office.
Its so fucking stupid... Now we get more unwanted babies that are significantly more likely to be a burden on society, and more people seeking and performing unlicensed and unregulated medical procedures and "home remedies". I'm really fucking confused about who this actually benefits.
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Sad day to be a woman in America. Set the country back 50 years. Hopefully this pisses them off enough to actually vote all these religious conservative dipshits out of office.
Its so fucking stupid... Now we get more unwanted babies that are significantly more likely to be a burden on society, and more people seeking and performing unlicensed and unregulated medical procedures and "home remedies". I'm really fucking confused about who this actually benefits.
"Life is holy", remember?
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Sad day to be a woman in America. Set the country back 50 years. Hopefully this pisses them off enough to actually vote all these religious conservative dipshits out of office.
Its so fucking stupid... Now we get more unwanted babies that are significantly more likely to be a burden on society, and more people seeking and performing unlicensed and unregulated medical procedures and "home remedies". I'm really fucking confused about who this actually benefits.
THIS
Frustrating AF watching from afar and having to try to explain to the locals why people seem so backassward back home.
Innumeracy and hypocrisy really at play here.
Saw some stats that rates in countries where it's illegal are roughly the same as in countries where it's legal.
Only difference is the number of deaths due to complications from the illegal procedures.
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Sad day to be a woman in America. Set the country back 50 years. Hopefully this pisses them off enough to actually vote all these religious conservative dipshits out of office.
Its so fucking stupid... Now we get more unwanted babies that are significantly more likely to be a burden on society, and more people seeking and performing unlicensed and unregulated medical procedures and "home remedies". I'm really fucking confused about who this actually benefits.
THIS
Frustrating AF watching from afar and having to try to explain to the locals why people seem so backassward back home.
Innumeracy and hypocrisy really at play here.
Saw some stats that rates in countries where it's illegal are roughly the same as in countries where it's legal.
Only difference is the number of deaths due to complications from the illegal procedures.
Yes, medical procedures tend to have pretty inelastic demand curves. Who'dathunkit right?
Much like refusing to sell IV drug users clean needles, you're not stopping anyone from doing it.. You're just stopping them from doing it safely.
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Pro life as they escalate ww3
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Forced birth in a country with the highest maternal mortality rate, no paid maternity leave, no universal, subsidized childcare, no continued birth parent care, and frequently inaccessible mental health care.
Studies show that women who are forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy are more likely to experience intimate partner violence, health problems, poverty, and ongoing financial distress than those who were able to access wanted abortion care.
Awful day for America, and even more to come with the descent of America into right-wing fascism.
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I know it's an overused comparison at this point but the USA is really turning into the movie Idiocracy. Or maybe it's turning into The Handmaid's Tale? Who knows? Fucking braindead moron lawmakers.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
As an American who has been living in Europe for close to 10 years, people always ask me when I'm going back... I always tell them I hope I never will. This is just one more example of how dystopian things are becoming and why living in the USA was maybe cool in the 50s-90s or whenever it was, but now, it's a joke. JESUS CHRIST what a nightmare.
And yes, I realize that there are much worse places to live in the world, in fact, life in the USA is pretty plush, but there's no reason to pretend the USA is doing anything that great these days aside from supplying weapons to the rest of the world and brainwashing everyone with things like facebook and amazon and other nonsense. It's fucking embarrassing.
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They’re going to go after gay marriage gay sex and eventually interracial marriage wtf
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fuck religion, fuck conservatives and fuck the republican party
They are hypocrites and liars. They want government out of their life but they sure do want it in your life.
Religion does nothing bu divide people.
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It's worthless to even attempt to talk to conservatives as if they have any worth anymore.
Fuck all these right wing bastards.
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Be prepared to protect yourself and those you love. The government and the cops are not there to protect us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgjGwOByays
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It's worthless to even attempt to talk to conservatives as if they have any worth anymore.
Fuck all these right wing bastards.
Yes, 100%. It's worthless to vote in my state because it's so gerrymandered. The state supreme court keeps rejecting the Redistricting Commission's electoral districts, but the Redistricting Commission keeps submitting the same bullshit maps with no punishment.
Roe isn't just about abortion, it's about the personal right to privacy from the government. This is a failed system, violence is the only answer. The only voice the lower classes have is when our protesters are beaten or killed in the streets, or a revolution. But things are going to have to get a lot worse first.
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*PARODY* we need to start blowing some stuff up *PARODY* not like kill anyone but we need to start sending messages to *PARODY* lawmakers and the people that fund them that we need laws that reflect the needs of the people in this country *PARODY* and it’s become increasingly apparent that no one is willing to make that step on their own *PARODY* so if it takes some well placed charges *PARODY* at some offices and under some cars i think that’s a road worth exploring. not just R’s. D’s too. *PARODY*
voting is fucking useless.
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*PARODY* we need to start blowing some stuff up *PARODY* not like kill anyone but we need to start sending messages to *PARODY* lawmakers and the people that fund them that we need laws that reflect the needs of the people in this country *PARODY* and it’s become increasingly apparent that no one is willing to make that step on their own *PARODY* so if it takes some well placed charges *PARODY* at some offices and under some cars i think that’s a road worth exploring. not just R’s. D’s too. *PARODY*
voting is fucking useless.
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*PARODY* we need to start blowing some stuff up *PARODY* not like kill anyone but we need to start sending messages to *PARODY* lawmakers and the people that fund them that we need laws that reflect the needs of the people in this country *PARODY* and it’s become increasingly apparent that no one is willing to make that step on their own *PARODY* so if it takes some well placed charges *PARODY* at some offices and under some cars i think that’s a road worth exploring. not just R’s. D’s too. *PARODY*
voting is fucking useless.
Welp, you see, they're anti-fascist. Therefore if you have a problem with them, you're anti-anti-fascist. By simplifying the negatives that will make you (dun dun dun) FASCIST!!!!!!!!
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
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probably isn't the best time for this but i thought of an all time great name in my buddies discord
roe v wade desarmo
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*PARODY* we need to start blowing some stuff up *PARODY* not like kill anyone but we need to start sending messages to *PARODY* lawmakers and the people that fund them that we need laws that reflect the needs of the people in this country *PARODY* and it’s become increasingly apparent that no one is willing to make that step on their own *PARODY* so if it takes some well placed charges *PARODY* at some offices and under some cars i think that’s a road worth exploring. not just R’s. D’s too. *PARODY*
voting is fucking useless.
Welp, you see, they're anti-fascist. Therefore if you have a problem with them, you're anti-anti-fascist. By simplifying the negatives that will make you (dun dun dun) FASCIST!!!!!!!!
i will tolerate whatever political ideology guarantees an inhabitable planet for all gods creatures and total equality for man and woman and all in between regardless of race or any other ism.
all politicians make me nauseous.
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I'm so happy my daughter is moving to blue state Hawaii. Fuck this christo-fascist bullshit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kirh-gRNifI
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What the fuck, its like congrats we gonna swear in a black woman, but yea we gonna take away right to abortions.
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Well, I'm not a party sorta person, but regarding issues such as this and cursory voting rights, there's a big difference.
Maybe you're being sarcastic.
I hope so
The idea of living anywhere in the States other than California or New England at this time feels like an increasingly risky endeavor. All the paramilitary shit we have seen over the past 6 year is only going to increase as times goes forward. What stands out most to me are the rising militia memberships. Armed patrols have become a very, very real thing.
Use your noggins and don't just act with your heart/emotions. Stay safe
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Pro life as they escalate ww3
Need to replace the soldiers that will be killed
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it is amazing Ireland has legal abortion and soon half the US will not. I'm so sick of people who pretend to give a shit about the Constitution but don't understand that church and state are separate. Go practice your religion, but keep your religion the fuck out of my life.
I hope someone who is Jewish sues for the right to have an abortion as:
"Life does not begin at conception under Jewish law. Sources in the Talmud note that the fetus is “mere water” before 40 days of gestation. Following this period, the fetus is considered a physical part of the pregnant individual’s body, not yet having life of its own or independent rights. The fetus is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body."
Unfortunately we've got a bunch of complete opus dei freaks on the supreme court because the most evil people in our country play to win and because a certain girl boss decided to play chicken with father time
If she truly gave a shit about the causes she held dear, she absolutely should have quit during a Democratic supermajority. I get mad every time I see some dipshit sporting her swag.
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Well, I'm not a party sorta person, but regarding issues such as this and cursory voting rights, there's a big difference.
Maybe you're being sarcastic.
I hope so
The idea of living anywhere in the States other than California or New England at this time feels like an increasingly risky endeavor. All the paramilitary shit we have seen over the past 6 year is only going to increase as times goes forward. What stands out most to me are the rising militia memberships. Armed patrols have become a very, very real thing.
Use your noggins and don't just act with your heart/emotions. Stay safe
I’m completely sarcastic. Unfortunately, I know a shit ton of people who hold that view. Maybe they’ll wake the fuck up before their rights are all gone but I doubt it.
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
I've been registered to vote as a Green party in California since 2008 and still voted for Obama, and Hilary ...green party will never win presidential elections
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Well, I'm not a party sorta person, but regarding issues such as this and cursory voting rights, there's a big difference.
Maybe you're being sarcastic.
I hope so
The idea of living anywhere in the States other than California or New England at this time feels like an increasingly risky endeavor. All the paramilitary shit we have seen over the past 6 year is only going to increase as times goes forward. What stands out most to me are the rising militia memberships. Armed patrols have become a very, very real thing.
Use your noggins and don't just act with your heart/emotions. Stay safe
I’m completely sarcastic. Unfortunately, I know a shit ton of people who hold that view. Maybe they’ll wake the fuck up before their rights are all gone but I doubt it.
yeah, man, I was in around a lot of earlier 20s folks who thought themselves "leftist" at the time of the 2016 election who were arguing that both Hilary and Bernie were no good, that it didn't matter, that a Trump win would mobilize people on the left etc. Such people have minimal life experience, a limited view on contemporary politics or civics (how the branches of govt work) other than that it is broken, no historical knowledge, etc. Hasn't served the nation well, but man, I'm grateful for the government classes in community college where I learned about how the powers are supposed to be divided... none of these fuckwits think about the fucking judicial and lifetime appointments.
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Ireland and Catholic/ Latin American countries have made great strides in reproductive rights over the last few years. The fact is abortion has always happened and always will happen. As evolved humans we owe it to women to keep them as safe as possible.
What happened to "Don't tread on me?" That's just for guns, right?
There are times to riot and it might be very soon...
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The GQP is going hard on reversing any sort of civil rights gains in their push to create a white theocratic nation.
Their anti-gay bills, anti-understanding racism bills, and their attempts to overthrow our democracy are terrifying.
I feel there is a belief that the left is on the right side of history or that the battles are already won or something. These people are fucking crazy and coming out strong. And, they are fucking organized. The GQP has a well oiled outrage machine to work up the masses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffV7z5JdIRM
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Then you voted for Republicans.
Third parties will NEVER take a presidency. A vote for a third party (presidency wise) is a wasted vote. Especially with the way the electoral college works.
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Well, I'm not a party sorta person, but regarding issues such as this and cursory voting rights, there's a big difference.
Maybe you're being sarcastic.
I hope so
The idea of living anywhere in the States other than California or New England at this time feels like an increasingly risky endeavor. All the paramilitary shit we have seen over the past 6 year is only going to increase as times goes forward. What stands out most to me are the rising militia memberships. Armed patrols have become a very, very real thing.
Use your noggins and don't just act with your heart/emotions. Stay safe
I’m completely sarcastic. Unfortunately, I know a shit ton of people who hold that view. Maybe they’ll wake the fuck up before their rights are all gone but I doubt it.
who’s the president rn
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this is RBG's legacy
Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
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So… Hillary wasn’t so bad after all huh guys?
There’s literally no difference between parties! I’m voting for Jill Stein!!!
Well, I'm not a party sorta person, but regarding issues such as this and cursory voting rights, there's a big difference.
Maybe you're being sarcastic.
I hope so
The idea of living anywhere in the States other than California or New England at this time feels like an increasingly risky endeavor. All the paramilitary shit we have seen over the past 6 year is only going to increase as times goes forward. What stands out most to me are the rising militia memberships. Armed patrols have become a very, very real thing.
Use your noggins and don't just act with your heart/emotions. Stay safe
I’m completely sarcastic. Unfortunately, I know a shit ton of people who hold that view. Maybe they’ll wake the fuck up before their rights are all gone but I doubt it.
who’s the president rn
Doesn't matter who is President right now. It matters who has been making it vocal that this was their intention (as well as getting rid of medicare and social security) from the get go and used their power to seat three SCOTUS amongst hundreds of other lifetime appointed federal judges.
It's a game of chess and the Republicans used their turn wisely (in their sense).
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Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
and, to be frank, i don't understand why obama didn't push the point harder than he did. hadn't she already had cancer by this point as well?
Yes, and Obama was told she wasn't looking good (despite that she did outlive the life expectation - no doubt due to her wealth as a justice).
Also heard that when she was on her deathbed one of her dying wishes was to not have Trump replace her
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Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
and, to be frank, i don't understand why obama didn't push the point harder than he did. hadn't she already had cancer by this point as well?
Because Obama represented the exact same empty corporate politics that brought us to this moment. And now he's fucked off to Martha's Vineyard to hang out with his wealthy friends. Dems have been coasting off of their minimal efforts or appeasement to the right for forty years. They will not save you, they're here to rob you so they can put in barely any effort in opposing people who are willing to get their hands on the levers of power and use them to hurt as many people as they can. The dems are weak willed and half of them are corpses like Feinstein who will stop being a senator when they wheel her decrepit ass out on a gurney
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Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
and, to be frank, i don't understand why obama didn't push the point harder than he did. hadn't she already had cancer by this point as well?
Because Obama represented the exact same empty corporate politics that brought us to this moment. And now he's fucked off to Martha's Vineyard to hang out with his wealthy friends. Dems have been coasting off of their minimal efforts or appeasement to the right for forty years. They will not save you, they're here to rob you so they can put in barely any effort in opposing people who are willing to get their hands on the levers of power and use them to hurt as many people as they can. The dems are weak willed and half of them are corpses like Feinstein who will stop being a senator when they wheel her decrepit ass out on a gurney
To be fair, Obama had a lot of respect for her and didn't want to force the issue, its probably the one and only thing that bothers me most about RBG, she couldn't let go of her power...which is really the problem than party affiliation
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Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
and, to be frank, i don't understand why obama didn't push the point harder than he did. hadn't she already had cancer by this point as well?
Because Obama represented the exact same empty corporate politics that brought us to this moment. And now he's fucked off to Martha's Vineyard to hang out with his wealthy friends. Dems have been coasting off of their minimal efforts or appeasement to the right for forty years. They will not save you, they're here to rob you so they can put in barely any effort in opposing people who are willing to get their hands on the levers of power and use them to hurt as many people as they can. The dems are weak willed and half of them are corpses like Feinstein who will stop being a senator when they wheel her decrepit ass out on a gurney
Yeah. What happens to the plebeian life doesn't affect them, not immediately anyways.
The same faction of corporate dems tried to pull another Obama when running Buttigieg. Obama was more palatable though, has a better personality or something.
Read Octavia Butler "Parable of the Sower." Especially for west coast folks, it feels more realistic and relatable than Handmaids Tale.. Same themes, none the less
Oligarchs, baby
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The Democratic party became the soft neo-liberal (free-market) party of the suburbs when Dukakis got fucking wrecked in '88. It was the only way they saw a way to compete. And in the short term, they were right. Clinton won in '92.
Ever since Dukasis's loss and Clinton's win. The Dems are the party of soft neo-liberalism compared to the GQP's theocratic fascism (fascism is a very capitalistic system). The Dems are afraid to enact the policies that they feel are best because they are afraid of freaking out the center-right suburbs (and many of them are the center-right suburbanites).
What scares me most is that I believe libertarianism's natural progression is into authoritarianism. A "free-market" in theory is great, but in reality it is terrifying. Life is not supposed to be a constant battle against other humans. We are not supposed to constantly worry about where our next meal is coming from or if we will have shelter tomorrow. The intense economic insecurity causes people to look for a "strong" leader to keep everything in line.
The GQP is the natural progression from Friedman's free-market to authoritarianism. They pretend to promote the free market, but will interfere for the benefit of a select few and they attempt to project themselves through stereotypical masculine images of power, even if those images are just that, images.
Since I returned from living in Moscow for a bit, I've seen Russia as the GQP's dream future. Reliance on oil, hatred of academics, use of bureaucracy when they need to harm anyone outside of the in group but ignoring the laws when it benefits someone in group, repression inside of the country, but the power is based on superficial metrics rather than real metrics that matter (quality of life, life expectancy, housing, etc.).
Even Russia's army is the Carlson/Trump "masculine" wet dream. Carlson can boner up thinking the Russian army is full of Zangief from Street Fighter and Dolf from Rocky III clones, but it is a bunch of unorganized under supported kids. On Victory Day, Putin parades the army around like Russia is some significant military power. Victory Day in Moscow is fucking wild. Tanks roll through the streets for hours and hours, planes and helicopters fly around, soldiers march, and so on, but as we've seen in Ukraine their "power" is pretty weak (aside from the nukes), they are struggling to defeat a rather weak neighbor... the image was all bluster. Trump loved this shit and wanted to do the exact same thing.
We are fucked.
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Still waiting for a mass American exodus.
Don't come here.
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Congrats on the GOP successfully installing a Supreme Court that doesn't want to do anything the American people want. Dems did nothing to combat this happening. As said before they appointed people they knew would inject their religion into our laws. A complete attack on any civil rights related advancements we've made is next on the table.
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Time to start fighting back.
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The Democratic party became the soft neo-liberal (free-market) party of the suburbs when Dukakis got fucking wrecked in '88. It was the only way they saw a way to compete. And in the short term, they were right. Clinton won in '92.
Ever since Dukasis's loss and Clinton's win. The Dems are the party of soft neo-liberalism compared to the GQP's theocratic fascism (fascism is a very capitalistic system). The Dems are afraid to enact the policies that they feel are best because they are afraid of freaking out the center-right suburbs (and many of them are the center-right suburbanites).
The Dems saw what Regan did and knew that they were no longer going to win off of just liberal policies that got Carter elected. Eventually they realized they would need corporations to lobby them if they would ever hope to regain power. It was no surprise Trump and Bernies appeal to break this status quo is what gained them so much popularity with the common voters in 2016
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Its rough because in Obama's book he was telling her that it was her time and he'd find a good replacement but she wasn't hearing it from him
and, to be frank, i don't understand why obama didn't push the point harder than he did. hadn't she already had cancer by this point as well?
Because Obama represented the exact same empty corporate politics that brought us to this moment. And now he's fucked off to Martha's Vineyard to hang out with his wealthy friends. Dems have been coasting off of their minimal efforts or appeasement to the right for forty years. They will not save you, they're here to rob you so they can put in barely any effort in opposing people who are willing to get their hands on the levers of power and use them to hurt as many people as they can. The dems are weak willed and half of them are corpses like Feinstein who will stop being a senator when they wheel her decrepit ass out on a gurney
To be fair, Obama had a lot of respect for her and didn't want to force the issue, its probably the one and only thing that bothers me most about RBG, she couldn't let go of her power...which is really the problem than party affiliation
Empty corporate politics and three liberal Supreme Court justices , I would have been a-ok with that. There are always hard political costs no matter how much people want to say “they’re all the same” and “voting doesn’t matter”
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Every guy who reads please watch Never Rarely Sometimes Always besides it being a good movie it really helps put into perspective abortions and what it's like for a girl to get one
Vumoo.to
Good free pirated site
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Pointing the finger at RBG is a weird take to be honest
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Ireland and Catholic/ Latin American countries have made great strides in reproductive rights over the last few years. The fact is abortion has always happened and always will happen. As evolved humans we owe it to women to keep them as safe as possible.
What happened to "Don't tread on me?" That's just for guns, right?
There are times to riot and it might be very soon...
Modern conservatives (they should really be called recidivists, because that's what their actual platform is) are loud and proud hypocrites. Their positions are often logically indefensible so they rely on emotional ones rooted in religion and fear. Most of the constituents are a case study in dunning Kruger, convinced they know everything but have never left their bubble because they're so scared of changing anything (especially their mind despite mountains of evidence). A bunch of fucking pussies basically, which might be why they seem to hate them so much.
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Make sure to get out and vote!
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This horrible decision reminded me of what it felt like when there was a new horrid piece of domestic news each day of Trump's presidency. And, really, this shit is just an extension of that nightmare.
Hopefully, this energizes team blue to vote in the mid-terms.
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This horrible decision reminded me of what it felt like when there was a new horrid piece of domestic news each day of Trump's presidency. And, really, this shit is just an extension of that nightmare.
Hopefully, this energizes team blue to vote in the mid-terms.
Agreed, and I also hope this energizes people to get out and involved in their local communities.
Change has to come forth at the micro and macro levels.
A lot of time/coverage, attention, and energy is focused on the national level political drama and getting us to focus on said drama (some would say it's part of the "grand design") that we often get distracted from what's happening right under our noses.
Though that's tough when those who comprise the bulk of the electorate are struggling to make ends meet.
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Make sure to get out and vote!
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
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Make sure to get out and vote!
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
I hate the cops as much as any other normal rational person but the local police are not the same thing as the US Supreme Court. Not even close.
I know it’s not I just had that sitting on my phone. I figured with all the jawjacking about getting out and voting I would post it.
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This is all pretty fucked, girls today will have less rights than their grandmothers.
Even though I agree with the sentiment, the social media backlash is a little corny. One, it’s clearly an echo-chamber and not resulting in more leftist votes. Two, a lot of misinformation about the lack of male birth control options is being spread. Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
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Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
The white Trump voting women I have the misfortune of knowing are pro life conservatives. They’re celebrating this as a victory.
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Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
The white Trump voting women I have the misfortune of knowing are pro life conservatives. They’re celebrating this as a victory.
That's the thing I understand least. Why do these women want LESS rights?
If you don't agree with abortions, don't have them. But why celebrate more laws against the freedoms of women which will certainly lead to more laws suppressing women even more. It's just the beginning. These people are nuts.
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rules for thee not for me. Wealthy people will not be effected by these laws. They don't care about freedom, they care about keeping the status quo.
RELIGION IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
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Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
The white Trump voting women I have the misfortune of knowing are pro life conservatives. They’re celebrating this as a victory.
That's the thing I understand least. Why do these women want LESS rights?
If you don't agree with abortions, don't have them. But why celebrate more laws against the freedoms of women which will certainly lead to more laws suppressing women even more. It's just the beginning. These people are nuts.
Religion. They view it as murder. They also get off on judging others harshly. This can only end with the state investigating miscarriages, which are much more frequent than most men would assume.
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Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
The white Trump voting women I have the misfortune of knowing are pro life conservatives. They’re celebrating this as a victory.
That's the thing I understand least. Why do these women want LESS rights?
If you don't agree with abortions, don't have them. But why celebrate more laws against the freedoms of women which will certainly lead to more laws suppressing women even more. It's just the beginning. These people are nuts.
Religion. They view it as murder. They also get off on judging others harshly. This can only end with the state investigating miscarriages, which are much more frequent than most men would assume.
I'd assume also the huge majority of these women got lucky and never needed an abortion. I feel like it's the same mindset of fuck people with drug problems, I was responsible and didn't do drugs. Fuck the homeless I always worked hard and did the right thing they should have too.
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This is all pretty fucked, girls today will have less rights than their grandmothers.
Even though I agree with the sentiment, the social media backlash is a little corny. One, it’s clearly an echo-chamber and not resulting in more leftist votes. Two, a lot of misinformation about the lack of male birth control options is being spread. Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
What I've seen is a bunch of posts telling 18 year old dudes to go out and get a vasectomy, because they can get it easily reversed whenever they want to have kids. What they don't care to include with their suggestion is that reversing a vasectomy is not guaranteed and the chances of successfully reversing one gets worse and worse with each passing year. I know everyone is upset, but this is not good information to just be blindly sharing.
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Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
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If you can, support local abortion networks and abortion funds (Planned Parenthood is well funded and is doing OK right now). Take time to be a clinic escort if you can, donate money or other resources needed if you can.
Abortions aren't going to stop even if they become illegal.
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Three, white women not admitting that some of them got duped by Trump era racial rhetoric, and didn’t realize there’s more to the government than deporting Mexicans and shutting blacks up.
The white Trump voting women I have the misfortune of knowing are pro life conservatives. They’re celebrating this as a victory.
That's the thing I understand least. Why do these women want LESS rights?
If you don't agree with abortions, don't have them. But why celebrate more laws against the freedoms of women which will certainly lead to more laws suppressing women even more. It's just the beginning. These people are nuts.
Religion. They view it as murder. They also get off on judging others harshly. This can only end with the state investigating miscarriages, which are much more frequent than most men would assume.
I've never had to support someone through an abortion or a miscarriage (which informs my belief that my sperm is toast) , being informed by conversation and years of strong relationships/friendships with many women, I'd wager that more than 50% have suffered an abortion or miscarriage.
Any fucks on the anti-abortion train (let's stop calling it pro-life) have never worked with unwanted or undersupported children. Nobody asks to be born into a fucked up world. Fuckin hell.
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Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Yes I was
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Yes I was
Holy shit! I refuse to get married because it's horse shit institution while you trained to kill for US???
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Yes I was
Holy shit! I refuse to get married because it's horse shit institution while you trained to kill for US???
Got any good pick up artistry tips on how to pick up cops?
Edit: also damn, it's almost like the corps seems like a life line to a lot of people who grow up in fucked up situations with little future to hope for and that people can change their minds on the direct results of US imperialism after witnessing it first hand
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Isn't your ass married posting hundreds of dollars outfits in Gear Thread?
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Wow this thread is getting trolled out pretty hard already.
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
If you're going to use the "I'm not American" card regarding cops, you don't have anything to contribute to this thread
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Aren't you LE or something similar?
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Wow this thread is getting trolled out pretty hard already.
I agree let's get back to the topic at hand
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"blue lives matter" is not a thing in Scandinavia, so it's not a card. Shitty cookie cutter Twitter takes are not doing much to contribute either.
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"blue lives matter" is not a thing in Scandinavia, so it's not a card. Shitty cookie cutter Twitter takes are not doing much to contribute either.
Ignore
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a non-american trying to derail a conversation on american politics....
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a non-american trying to derail a conversation on american politics....
Don't matter. I see now that it's all just a fashion statement.
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a non-american trying to derail a conversation on american politics....
Don't matter. I see now that it's all just a fashion statement.
It matters enough for you to give your scandinavian opinion nobody asked for tho
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a non-american trying to derail a conversation on american politics....
Don't matter. I see now that it's all just a fashion statement.
It matters enough for you to give your scandinavian opinion nobody asked for tho
You never used a forum?
Also, Poland hates abortions as well so the phenomenon is hardly US centric, so the topic is pretty talked about in Europe. However, I would not advocate for violence against some dude just patroling on his shift or whatever... Unless one thinks all police men are mega nazis which is plain ridiculous....
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a non-american trying to derail a conversation on american politics....
Don't matter. I see now that it's all just a fashion statement.
It matters enough for you to give your scandinavian opinion nobody asked for tho
You never used a forum?
Also, Poland hates abortions as well so the phenomenon is hardly US centric, so the topic is pretty talked about in Europe. However, I would not advocate for violence against some dude just patroling on his shift or whatever... Unless one thinks all police men are mega nazis which is plain ridiculous....
Where in this thread has anyone said "all police men are mega nazis"?
Are you doing that thing where you argue against a strawman made up in your own head?
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is defending police on a skateboarding forum.
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Totally off-topic (except we're talking about cops) but if you have a chance and want to understand how police in LA function, please read this well-researched and deeply depressing series about the LA Sheriff's Department:
https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/
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Also who do you think is gonna carry out the enforcement of the overturning of roe v Wade, here's a hint, it's not gonna be the old ass justices on the supreme court. It's gonna be cops.
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
If you're going to use the "I'm not American" card regarding cops, you don't have anything to contribute to this thread
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Aren't you LE or something similar?
My clients are mostly on probation but I’m in social work.
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
If you're going to use the "I'm not American" card regarding cops, you don't have anything to contribute to this thread
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Yes, throw rocks at working class...
Get the fuck outta here with this cops are working class blue lives matter bullshit
I'm not American, so that statement is non-applicable.
Sometimes it's like people never leave their house and get their takes from Twitter.
It’s definitely applicable to you; regardless of where you live. There’s an armed wing of the state whose primary purpose to defend corporate property and vested class interests.
Also, it is dismissive, condescending, and ignorant to assume that the folks you are talking to ( @DaleSr @Landmine and @IusedToSkateMore and myself) are Wikipedia revolutionaries without an in-depth understanding of class dynamics or first hand experience in dealing with the machinations of the state. Not to mention flat out wrong.
Weren’t you a marine?
Aren't you LE or something similar?
My clients are mostly on probation but I’m in social work.
No doubt. I know some county probation SWers. Gnarly job
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Also who do you think is gonna carry out the enforcement of the overturning of roe v Wade, here's a hint, it's not gonna be the old ass justices on the supreme court. It's gonna be cops.
What do you mean enforcement? If it’s overturned that just means there’s not a a constitutional right to abortion. Certain states will ban it immediately, other states will be business as usual. There are already basically bans in some states and you don’t hear about people being hauled off or harassed by cops. If it gets overturned in the courts, then that’s terrible, but you’re acting like a bunch of cops are going to goose step into every clinic and take the providers to a death camp.
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What do you mean enforcement? If it’s overturned that just means there’s not a a constitutional right to abortion. Certain states will ban it immediately, other states will be business as usual. There are already basically bans in some states and you don’t hear about people being hauled off or harassed by cops. If it gets overturned in the courts, then that’s terrible, but you’re acting like a bunch of cops are going to goose step into every clinic and take the providers to a death camp.
I think @PuffinMuffin 's point about state investigated miscarriages is far from fantasy. Will it be the rank and file doing the checking? Perhaps not but maybe a detective (who came up through the rank and file)? And if this becomes SOP for states with anti-abortion laws, will it stay in the hands of an educated cop or will the necessity of the daily work load cause it land on another type of cop? The point stands and Texas already enacted laws offering bounties for reporting on the reproductive status of their neighbors. Seriously, none of this is that far-fetched.
The political ship in the US is being steered by facists who don't adhere to any kind of reason and can't articulate much of a platform other than outrage at someone else's rights. Where do you think a monster like that is likely to stop?
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"blue lives matter" is not a thing in Scandinavia, so it's not a card. Shitty cookie cutter Twitter takes are not doing much to contribute either.
Not like your shitty ass outdated contrarian takes are going to help either. Good to know which kooks I should be ignoring on this forum going forward.
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What do you mean enforcement? If it’s overturned that just means there’s not a a constitutional right to abortion. Certain states will ban it immediately, other states will be business as usual. There are already basically bans in some states and you don’t hear about people being hauled off or harassed by cops. If it gets overturned in the courts, then that’s terrible, but you’re acting like a bunch of cops are going to goose step into every clinic and take the providers to a death camp.
Yeah cops aren't likely to march into PP and arrest all the staff, but who else would there *be* to enforce abortion restrictions? If word about a clinic that will perform abortions on a nudge nudge wink wink agreement gets out then who will show up to investigate? If an underground abortion service springs up then who will be busting down the doors and arresting "offenders"? Who is enforcing abortion bans in states that currently restrict it?
The answer is cops whether it's rookies pulling up in their cruisers with the lights and sirens blaring or it's undercover sting operations by detectives and feds.
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is defending police on a skateboarding forum.
This 100% The possibility of police having even more opportunity / leverage to abuse women in crisis is terrifying.
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is defending police on a skateboarding forum.
I cannot believe a motherfucker is being a forum snitch on a skateboarding forum.
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Don't matter. I see now that it's all just a fashion statement.
It matters enough for you to give your scandinavian opinion nobody asked for tho
You never used a forum?
Also, Poland hates abortions as well so the phenomenon is hardly US centric, so the topic is pretty talked about in Europe. However, I would not advocate for violence against some dude just patroling on his shift or whatever... Unless one thinks all police men are mega nazis which is plain ridiculous....
Where in this thread has anyone said "all police men are mega nazis"?
Are you doing that thing where you argue against a strawman made up in your own head?
Pretty much said by this point. Or will be soon.
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What do you mean enforcement? If it’s overturned that just means there’s not a a constitutional right to abortion. Certain states will ban it immediately, other states will be business as usual. There are already basically bans in some states and you don’t hear about people being hauled off or harassed by cops. If it gets overturned in the courts, then that’s terrible, but you’re acting like a bunch of cops are going to goose step into every clinic and take the providers to a death camp.
A woman in Texas tried to give herself an abortion last month and ended up in the hospital. She claimed she miscarried, but messed up and let hospital staff know that she was trying to abort. They called the police and guess what happened? Cops arrested her.
https://msmagazine.com/2022/04/09/woman-arrested-abortion-texas-mexico-murder-lizelle-herrera/
The good news is that people protested and the story blew up. She was first released on a half a million dollar bond (wtf) and eventually the DA dropped the charges. But again, who were the enforcers of the law that ultimately put her behind bars? Cops.
Edit: I just re-read the article and they were charging her with murder. This country is so fucked up.
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is being a forum snitch on a skateboarding forum.
Bro what
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is being a forum snitch on a skateboarding forum.
Bro what
Yea huh?
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is being a forum snitch on a skateboarding forum.
Bro what
Yea huh?
Man snitching on himself as a misogynist
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fuck religion. ever since the pilgrims came here christianity nationalism has always sort of existed in a way to undermine the state and democracy. it places itself in a victimhood position while creating a sort of “other” mentality that it constantly places itself at conflict with. i dont understand how anyone can be a part of ANY organized religion in the 21st century. fuck amy coney barret.
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I cannot believe a motherfucker is being a forum snitch on a skateboarding forum.
Bro what
Yea huh?
Man snitching on himself as a misogynist
See you a lot in that one section.... Pointing fingers and telling, so to speak.
And no, I'm super pro individual rights/choice, because I grew up around educated, strong women.
But hey, since all you are so fucking holy and hard, go out there and do your part? Smash a cop, burn down a car. You have such high standards for regular people working a job, apply just half of them on yourself. Why stop at cops, kill accountants, them capitalism pigs!
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What scares me most is that I believe libertarianism's natural progression is into authoritarianism. A "free-market" in theory is great, but in reality it is terrifying. Life is not supposed to be a constant battle against other humans. We are not supposed to constantly worry about where our next meal is coming from or if we will have shelter tomorrow. The intense economic insecurity causes people to look for a "strong" leader to keep everything in line.
Since I returned from living in Moscow for a bit, I've seen Russia as the GQP's dream future. Reliance on oil, hatred of academics, use of bureaucracy when they need to harm anyone outside of the in group but ignoring the laws when it benefits someone in group, repression inside of the country, but the power is based on superficial metrics rather than real metrics that matter (quality of life, life expectancy, housing, etc.).
Even Russia's army is the Carlson/Trump "masculine" wet dream. Carlson can boner up thinking the Russian army is full of Zangief from Street Fighter and Dolf from Rocky III clones, but it is a bunch of unorganized under supported kids. On Victory Day, Putin parades the army around like Russia is some significant military power. Victory Day in Moscow is fucking wild. Tanks roll through the streets for hours and hours, planes and helicopters fly around, soldiers march, and so on, but as we've seen in Ukraine their "power" is pretty weak (aside from the nukes), they are struggling to defeat a rather weak neighbor... the image was all bluster. Trump loved this shit and wanted to do the exact same thing.
We are fucked.
(https://i.ibb.co/qYr934m/Screen-Shot-2022-05-03-at-4-24-53-PM.png)
accelerationism my friend. its the only way at this point. great point about how natural progression of libertarianism is authoritarianism. they thought the end of history would be a libertarian democratic capitalism but realistically its going to end in theocratic facism. and we havent even gotten started on microplastics and climate change
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I’m going to get this thread back on track, but I have to clear some shit up first.
@iKobrakai
Was it the strong, educated women that helped make you into the cunning pick up artist you are today? Guess what… that’s a predatory, creepy, and misogynistic hobby to have.
Here’s the thing, and I’ll break it down so even you can understand it.
With an established track record of having incredibly problematic posts made in bad faith, you reek of misogynistic views. Either conscious or unconscious, it still presents as such. By interrupting your own ad hominem attacks with your opinions on marriage (that by the way no one fucking cares about), it shows a gross misunderstanding of the topic at hand. Taking a topic as serious as this and making it about yourself and your views is another example of what is deemed as passive misogyny. No one cares, about you, your opinions, or how things work on whatever country you live in. We’re talking about reproductive rights in America. End of story.
For everyone that didn’t seem to understand the picture; let’s think of it as an allegory: the brick symbolizes direct action and the cop car represents the state. Is that making sense?
***Direct action isn’t committing random acts of violence just so all are aware. It includes any and all acts made in good faith and solidarity to disrupt oppressive acts done by a governing or hierarchical organization***
To the shocked people that are possibly wondering how a combat veteran could possibly be against the institutions that wage war, I don’t know what to fucking tell you.
Also, idk what you think I do all day, but I do have a job. I work 70 hours a week cleaning portapotties. So I can vouch for my working class credentials.
Now, back to the topic at hand.
Spread this shit across the block.
If you’re going to protest be safe:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MKy3ZqBm/E57-D387-B-357-F-47-D3-BDFE-4-B87-E88-CA421.jpg)
Here are some helpful links:
National Network of Abortion Funds-abortionfunds.org
Abortion Resource Kit – tinyurl.com/AbortionResourceKit
Abortion Pills Online – plancpills.org
Shout Your Abortion – shoutyourabortion.com
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To the shocked people that are possibly wondering how a combat veteran could possibly be against the institutions that wage war, I don’t know what to fucking tell you.
Isn't ther a stupid term like internalized *buzzword* to describe it?
Nice psycho analysis, Officer Holy, you're so much better than the rest of us. Ticked all the boxes for generic Western lefty.
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I’m going to get this thread back on track, but I have to clear some shit up first.
@iKobrakai
Was it the strong, educated women that helped make you into the cunning pick up artist you are today? Guess what… that’s a predatory, creepy, and misogynistic hobby to have.
Here’s the thing, and I’ll break it down so even you can understand it.
With an established track record of having incredibly problematic posts made in bad faith, you reek of misogynistic views. Either conscious or unconscious, it still presents as such. By interrupting your own ad hominem attacks with your opinions on marriage (that by the way no one fucking cares about), it shows a gross misunderstanding of the topic at hand. Taking a topic as serious as this and making it about yourself and your views is another example of what is deemed as passive misogyny. No one cares, about you, your opinions, or how things work on whatever country you live in. We’re talking about reproductive rights in America. End of story.
For everyone that didn’t seem to understand the picture; let’s think of it as an allegory: the brick symbolizes direct action and the cop car represents the state. Is that making sense?
***Direct action isn’t committing random acts of violence just so all are aware. It includes any and all acts made in good faith and solidarity to disrupt oppressive acts done by a governing or hierarchical organization***
To the shocked people that are possibly wondering how a combat veteran could possibly be against the institutions that wage war, I don’t know what to fucking tell you.
Also, idk what you think I do all day, but I do have a job. I work 70 hours a week cleaning portapotties. So I can vouch for my working class credentials.
Now, back to the topic at hand.
Spread this shit across the block.
If you’re going to protest be safe:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MKy3ZqBm/E57-D387-B-357-F-47-D3-BDFE-4-B87-E88-CA421.jpg)
Here are some helpful links:
National Network of Abortion Funds-abortionfunds.org
Abortion Resource Kit – tinyurl.com/AbortionResourceKit
Abortion Pills Online – plancpills.org
Shout Your Abortion – shoutyourabortion.com
To add to Freelancevagrant's post if anyone is heading out to protest:
(https://i.ibb.co/dpTbB42/IMG-3692.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5kxWw9p/IMG-3693.jpg)
The part about digital security is something I think everyone in general should pay attention to - case law is still unclear on this issue, but often authorities will try to access digital devices without consent and AFAIK they can do it with biometrics like facial recognition and/or fingerprint (especially if one isn't conscious) however disclosing a password or passcode requires disclosing information that only the owner of the device knows and could possibly incriminate the owner.
So, TL;DR - Use an alphanumeric password, not facial recognition or fingerprint, to unlock your digital device.
Of course this is, like the issue of abortion legality, dependent upon which state/territory one is in.
Since we tend to find ourselves in downtown/urban areas if we aren't participating in protests, it's good knowledge to have and put into practice.
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Pointing the finger at RBG is a weird take to be honest
It’s the correct take, to be honest.
The weird take is defending cops.
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Another note, leave your phones at home! Don't bring your connected devices to any protest.
If you absolutely must bring your phone, turn off any biometric scanning and use a 6-8 digit passcode instead. Police can force you to unlock your device with FaceID or TouchID or similar, but can't force you to enter a passcode. And put it in airplane mode.
Don't film people. Just don't do it. I know we wanna share things with our friends or capture rad shit on camera, but don't. Not at a protest. People that post videos with faces or other clearly identifiable features are just doing the cops work for them.
Wear a mask. Not only does it keep you safe from COVID, if you happen to walk by a window as it gets smashed and some idiot records it, you're less likely to be identified. No face no case ;)
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It is interesting that some companies like Apple, Amazon, Citigroup, HP, Lyft, Uber, SalesForce (what does this company do?) etc., have vowed to pay for employee travel costs for abortions.
Rubio's dumb-ass is going to present some stupid bill to "punish" these corps for doing so.
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Louisiana just announced they're going to ban IUD for birth control. These American taliban will not stop unless we stop them.
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It is interesting that some companies like Apple, Amazon, Citigroup, HP, Lyft, Uber, SalesForce (what does this company do?) etc., have vowed to pay for employee travel costs for abortions.
Rubio's dumb-ass is going to present some stupid bill to "punish" these corps for doing so.
Salesforce is like Amazon Web Service and Azure. It's virtualization in the cloud. Instead of setting up something like an email server on the premise of your company, you could rent cloud storage from Salesforce and run it off that for your business.
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It is interesting that some companies like Apple, Amazon, Citigroup, HP, Lyft, Uber, SalesForce (what does this company do?) etc., have vowed to pay for employee travel costs for abortions.
Rubio's dumb-ass is going to present some stupid bill to "punish" these corps for doing so.
Salesforce is like Amazon Web Service and Azure. It's virtualization in the cloud. Instead of setting up something like an email server on the premise of your company, you could rent cloud storage from Salesforce and run it off that for your business.
They're also heavily into data analysis/analytics. Collecting, collating, and analyzing what seems to be trivial information that we freely give up (actively or passively) to "better meet our needs."
The whole recommendation list functions that sites like Amazon and Youtube utilize is Salesforce's core activity.
Also the annoying notifications sent when one forgets something in their cart without checking out.
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It is interesting that some companies like Apple, Amazon, Citigroup, HP, Lyft, Uber, SalesForce (what does this company do?) etc., have vowed to pay for employee travel costs for abortions.
Rubio's dumb-ass is going to present some stupid bill to "punish" these corps for doing so.
Salesforce is like Amazon Web Service and Azure. It's virtualization in the cloud. Instead of setting up something like an email server on the premise of your company, you could rent cloud storage from Salesforce and run it off that for your business.
They make software called CRM. Which is a form of project management tool for client list that uses code elements copied from Facebook and Twitter.
Basically its Twitter and Facebook for companies to share thingss internally
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Louisiana just announced they're going to ban IUD for birth control. These American taliban will not stop unless we stop them.
On top of saying that life BEGINS AT FERTILIZATION.
Christian Taliban are out to hurt people.
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Thanks for the update on SalesForce. Amazing that a company can be so big and yet a bit under the radar (and have such a stupid name).
Banning IUDs is crazy and I saw some shit about fertility clinics being at risk as well since the doctors might fertilize more than one egg and implant more than one into the womb then leave the one with the best chance of carrying to term.
Another super common risk is going to be for women who miscarry being accused of abortions. I had a friend whose wife miscarried a bunch of times when they were trying to have kids. It'd be wonderful if they went through the emotional disappointment, self-blame, and etc. of "fuck, i thought batch of cells would be the one that would eventually grow into a person. why can't my body work properly?" while being interrogated by some dipshit patrol officer who thinks he's doing "God's work."
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Michigan GQP have also stated that they want to limit/restrict the sale and education of contraception. Even to married couples.
For a party that constantly pines over the notion that gun laws won't reduce gun violence, they're pretty set on the idea that an abortion ban will stop abortion and contraception laws will stop sex.
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Thanks for the update on SalesForce. Amazing that a company can be so big and yet a bit under the radar (and have such a stupid name).
I have the fortunate luck to live in SF bay area, I ended up at a sustainability firms that got Obama money for jobs from 2008-2015, in 2008 every start up tech company was using a CRM called Sugar (was right next to Apple). in 2012 we heard saleforce was going to kill of the Sugar platform, we adopted it for a energy efficiency program used by Californias largest utility service (probably partial to their success). All the people who got trained on it ended up being saleforce people and make $$$$$.
They built a huge ass high rise building in SF
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I think the GQP may be overplaying their hand because they are feeling themselves right now. Legal abortion has also been a wedge issue they have successfully ridden for the past 40 years. As many have pointed out before, they currently have no other policies or platform they can manage to articulate*. Polling suggests that, at best, an abortion ban has 29% support of the electorate. I would imagine that number will shrink significantly once they start to try to drill down on contraceptives.
Conspiracy theory: the draft was leaked to energize voters for the midterms and get disaffected moderates to go the polls once again to vote for or against things that will very directly effect them ala the Federal approach to Covid in 2020.
*Fighting gun control is the other big one
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My take on the conspiracy theory - the draft was released by the GOP. They know with states rights and in super red states, they can do what they want with abortion bans. Then add to that, it's taken the attention away from Ginny Thomas and all things dealing with the Jan 6 committee investigations.
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if a cop ever shows up to even investigate my wife’s miscarriage im breaking their jaw and taking the time in jail. fuk this dumb ass country
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Pro life as they escalate ww3
Need to replace the soldiers that will be killed
That’s definitely on the mind pt.
The us government benefits from high birth rates even if it’s not good that that time for the individuals directly involved.
I’ve heard a ton about nations being like wtf! Because of the echo involved in low national birth rates.
The Russians supposedly have been getting hammered in that department since before ww1.
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GQP Rep who ran on Pro-Life and Pro-Family Values (anti-LGBTQIA+) won his primary even after killing his wife after she found out he was having an affair.
So yea, I'm sure "life is precious" isn't what they care about.
https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3479507-indiana-man-charged-with-wifes-murder-wins-gop-town-board-primary/
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GQP Rep who ran on Pro-Life and Pro-Family Values (anti-LGBTQIA+) won his primary even after killing his wife after she found out he was having an affair.
So yea, I'm sure "life is precious" isn't what they care about.
https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3479507-indiana-man-charged-with-wifes-murder-wins-gop-town-board-primary/
If they cared about life they'd be anti war and anti death penalty but i don't see them lining up to back those issues
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GQP Rep who ran on Pro-Life and Pro-Family Values (anti-LGBTQIA+) won his primary even after killing his wife after she found out he was having an affair.
So yea, I'm sure "life is precious" isn't what they care about.
https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3479507-indiana-man-charged-with-wifes-murder-wins-gop-town-board-primary/
If they cared about life they'd be anti war and anti death penalty but i don't see them lining up to back those issues
If they cared, they'd be about universal health care, parental leave, and the child support credits to make sure kids don't go hungry. But they voted each and every bill that benefits family and children.
Sen. Ron Johnson, no more than three months ago, make it clear the GQP's stance: It's not society's responsibility to care for your kids.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-johnson-not-societys-responsibility-care-for-other-peoples-children-2022-1
So they don't give a fat flying fuck about life. They care about control.
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The sooner people begin to see them not as good intentioned Patriots that you happen to disagree with but as what they actually are, your enemy who wants to hurt you and those you love, the better
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The sooner people begin to see them not as good intentioned Patriots that you happen to disagree with but as what they actually are, your enemy who wants to hurt you and those you love, the better
Don't think that's the problem.
People see that they're hurting the majority.
Simply put, it's the Christian Taliban extremists, who are in law making positions, plainly see it as "they're doing God's work" "they're Christians" so everything they do is good. And everyone who disagrees is evil.
GQP always use Sharia Law to scare their constituents into voting a certain way, when basically, they're doing it themselves.
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For a while it seems like the US, in addition to quite a few other countries in the world, is sliding down the jingoistic slippery slope quickly past patriotism to radical nationalistic fascist isolationism.
Do we see any way for a course correction or are we past the Nu Shooz/Bridget Fonda "point of no return"?
...Through it all, I'm grateful we have skateboarding...
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All this stuff has been a long time in the making, but, man, has it come down faster than I could have imagined.
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For a while it seems like the US, in addition to quite a few other countries in the world, is sliding down the jingoistic slippery slope quickly past patriotism to radical nationalistic fascist isolationism.
Do we see any way for a course correction or are we past the Nu Shooz/Bridget Fonda "point of no return"?
...Through it all, I'm grateful we have skateboarding...
Course correction would require a coarse insurrection. & Yes, don’t lose that faith. We should all give thanks to the little things that make our lives great. Whether it be a partner, pet or pastime.
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All this stuff has been a long time in the making, but, man, has it come down faster than I could have imagined.
Trump lit that match and left the building burning
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This is going to embolden the GQP dramatically.
Trump put in a ton of judges and rigged the Supreme Court with the help that piece of shit McConnell... and now we are seeing the results. Welcome to 20 years of theocratic and far right legal decisions: from the environment to personal rights to the separation of church and state, we are in for a drawn out nightmare.
America would still suck if Clinton got elected, but it would have prevented this from happening (so soon).
America only appeared to survive the "stress test" of the Trump presidency. We are in for a Tammany Hall style government. And, I don't see any modern day LaGuardia's to save us from this prolonged nightmare.
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This is going to embolden the GQP dramatically.
Trump put in a ton of judges and rigged the Supreme Court with the help that piece of shit McConnell... and now we are seeing the results. Welcome to 20 years of theocratic and far right legal decisions: from the environment to personal rights to the separation of church and state, we are in for a drawn out nightmare.
America would still suck if Clinton got elected, but it would have prevented this from happening (so soon).
America only appeared to survive the "stress test" of the Trump presidency. We are in for a Tammany Hall style government. And, I don't see any modern day LaGuardia's to save us from this prolonged nightmare.
Well said
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This is going to embolden the GQP dramatically.
Trump put in a ton of judges and rigged the Supreme Court with the help that piece of shit McConnell... and now we are seeing the results. Welcome to 20 years of theocratic and far right legal decisions: from the environment to personal rights to the separation of church and state, we are in for a drawn out nightmare.
America would still suck if Clinton got elected, but it would have prevented this from happening (so soon).
America only appeared to survive the "stress test" of the Trump presidency. We are in for a Tammany Hall style government. And, I don't see any modern day LaGuardia's to save us from this prolonged nightmare.
We need a modern day Fidel Castro
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This is going to embolden the GQP dramatically.
Trump put in a ton of judges and rigged the Supreme Court with the help that piece of shit McConnell... and now we are seeing the results. Welcome to 20 years of theocratic and far right legal decisions: from the environment to personal rights to the separation of church and state, we are in for a drawn out nightmare.
America would still suck if Clinton got elected, but it would have prevented this from happening (so soon).
America only appeared to survive the "stress test" of the Trump presidency. We are in for a Tammany Hall style government. And, I don't see any modern day LaGuardia's to save us from this prolonged nightmare.
We need a modern day Fidel Castro Nestor Makhno
Fixed that for ya bud
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so I live in a town that's got pretty hard hick contingency. Most of the white folks are magats. Anyways, I go to an indoor kids basketball game to watch a kid I mentor. These kids are like 7-9 years old. I've got a mask on because I don't wanna get sick and it's not like 4 of my friends have been sick with the rona over the past few weeks. This younger dude, probably late 20s early 30s, sitting there with his kid, got the mirror sunglasses, bass pro sorta hat, etc just starts grilling me as I'm walking into the rec center. Pretty serious eye contact. I keep it for a bit nod and walk to the family I'm seeing. Dude doesn't nod back or whatever. I go outside at half time to eat a banana, walk back in with mask on and same dude is grilling me, harder. This time as I'm contenting to walk toward him and my seat, I keep that eye contact. It's like a game of chicken, ya, and after a good 10 seconds the dude looks down at the floor like whipped cur. I'm still thinking, like, dude, this is a kids basketball game, you're holding a child, why are you being confrontational?
I guess this is relevant to this thread in a way because it is the same sort of bold idiocy that's behind support for overturning RvW. Getting bent about me wearing a mask indoors during a pandemic. eat shit, boyo.
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so I live in a town that's got pretty hard hick contingency. Most of the white folks are magats. Anyways, I go to an indoor kids basketball game to watch a kid I mentor. These kids are like 7-9 years old. I've got a mask on because I don't wanna get sick and it's not like 4 of my friends have been sick with the rona over the past few weeks. This younger dude, probably late 20s early 30s, sitting there with his kid, got the mirror sunglasses, bass pro sorta hat, etc just starts grilling me as I'm walking into the rec center. Pretty serious eye contact. I keep it for a bit nod and walk to the family I'm seeing. Dude doesn't nod back or whatever. I go outside at half time to eat a banana, walk back in with mask on and same dude is grilling me, harder. This time as I'm contenting to walk toward him and my seat, I keep that eye contact. It's like a game of chicken, ya, and after a good 10 seconds the dude looks down at the floor like whipped cur. I'm still thinking, like, dude, this is a kids basketball game, you're holding a child, why are you being confrontational?
I guess this is relevant to this thread in a way because it is the same sort of bold idiocy that's behind support for overturning RvW. Getting bent about me wearing a mask indoors during a pandemic. eat shit, boyo.
These dudes are just affecting a pose
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I just started to read about this (I'm non American) and can someone please give me a quick summary of what happened? I just saw the bill didn't pass. I thought abortion was legal in the US?
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I just started to read about this (I'm non American) and can someone please give me a quick summary of what happened? I just saw the bill didn't pass. I thought abortion was legal in the US?
Simply put, the "Supreme" court is a group of 9 non-elected "judges" who are appointed to life long positions ad Supreme Court Justices. These "justices" hear cases and get to decide if current laws are in indeed valid or inline with the constitution.
6 of the 9 judges are practicing Catholics and have been funneled from Right Wing organizations into the court. These individuals have decided that while the Federal govt says abortion is legal, individual states have the right to decide it's legality in their boundaries, because it isn't "explicitly stated" in the constitution," or at least that's their interpretation.
So now, this sort of president crushing ruling sets future precedent for States to roll back other human rights such as marriage equality, racial and gender civil rights, etc.
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I just started to read about this (I'm non American) and can someone please give me a quick summary of what happened? I just saw the bill didn't pass. I thought abortion was legal in the US?
Simply put, the "Supreme" court is a group of 9 non-elected "judges" who are appointed to life long positions ad Supreme Court Justices. These "justices" hear cases and get to decide if current laws are in indeed valid or inline with the constitution.
6 of the 9 judges are practicing Catholics and have been funneled from Right Wing organizations into the court. These individuals have decided that while the Federal govt says abortion is legal, individual states have the right to decide it's legality in their boundaries, because it isn't "explicitly stated" in the constitution," or at least that's their interpretation.
So now, this sort of president crushing ruling sets future precedent for States to roll back other human rights such as marriage equality, racial and gender civil rights, etc.
To build on this a little bit, there's no law in the United States that says abortion is legal. In the 70's the Supreme Court decided that Abortions were a right protected under the constitution due to Americans having a right to "privacy". So a lot of states could try to limit abortions or make them harder to get, but no one could outlaw them (though many have tried).
As the other poster said, the current Supreme Court is likely to overturn the Roe v Wade & Casey v Planned Parenthood precedents, and leave abortion up to the individual states. Some states like California have laws that will keep abortion legal, but 22 states have laws that will immediately outlaw most or all abortion. More states will likely pass their own laws making abortion illegal as well.
The vote our Senate took that failed was basically doomed, and was more of a political stunt. They want to make people go on record against abortion because it's a very unpopular position. However, due to how fucked up our political system is, it is nearly impossible for the Democratic party to pass a law that will keep all abortion legal in the US.
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Thank you both and gnarred. What the fuck it's so strange that in 2022 other issues like LGBTQ are advancing there but a simple abortion isn't? Like what ever happened to separation of church and state?
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Thank you both and gnarred. What the fuck it's so strange that in 2022 other issues like LGBTQ are advancing there but a simple abortion isn't? Like what ever happened to separation of church and state?
They're definitely going after gay rights too with the "don't say gay" bill in Florida
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Thank you both and gnarred. What the fuck it's so strange that in 2022 other issues like LGBTQ are advancing there but a simple abortion isn't? Like what ever happened to separation of church and state?
lol separation of church and state hasn't really ever truly existed in the US
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Thank you both and gnarred. What the fuck it's so strange that in 2022 other issues like LGBTQ are advancing there but a simple abortion isn't? Like what ever happened to separation of church and state?
The scary thing that @iusedtoskatemore is referring to in their post is that, based on the reasoning this supreme court is using, other "rights" we have such as gay marriage and access to contraception are likely to be overturned and potentially made illegal as well. They are saying that only rights explicitly stated in the constitution are valid or rights need to have a significant role in the history of the United States. Of course, for most of the history of the United States, only Straight White Men have had rights, so basically we're screwed. They don't believe in the validity of these "unenumerated rights" aka rights that aren't explicitly written in the constitution but are inferred from other laws, specifically the "right to privacy" that some people believe can be inferred from the Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Fourteenth amendment.
6 of the current supreme court justices are racist, sexist, christian nationalists who are trying to set our country back 50 years, and 3 of the justices are wholly illegitimate in my opinion, having been seated in stolen seats. America is absolutely fucked.
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Thank you both and gnarred. What the fuck it's so strange that in 2022 other issues like LGBTQ are advancing there but a simple abortion isn't? Like what ever happened to separation of church and state?
both of these worth reading that might bring a little bit of understanding, not only to you, but to most Americans who are saying "where the fuck did this come from?" Grifters using religion to dupe people into ceding their rights and money. The 2nd article is especially interesting from a social standpoint, a backlash to the 60s... too bad they ate the body of christ and not a few tabs of LSD
https://theintercept.com/2022/05/10/roe-v-wade-federalist-society-religious-right/ (https://theintercept.com/2022/05/10/roe-v-wade-federalist-society-religious-right/)
https://theintercept.com/2022/05/12/abortion-roe-v-wade-francis-schaeffer-evangelical-christians/ (https://theintercept.com/2022/05/12/abortion-roe-v-wade-francis-schaeffer-evangelical-christians/)
I mean there's plenty more to read, but I think the intercept has done a great job this week
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All of the conservative justices need locked up for treason