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So sad , sites Tucker Carlson as his influence for targeting a supermarket in a mostly black neighborhood.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/14/us/buffalo-ny-supermarket-multiple-shooting/index.html
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Nah I'm good. I've seen like 200+ terrible news stories and for ever single one i literally was able to do nothing about em. It's exhausting. This is some bullshit for the Pentagon to solve.
I'm already doing my part anyways by not being a psycho and supporting my immediate circle so they don't fall in the trenches.
This is just part of the world we live in.
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Scumbag
RIP
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This fucker was from a small town just south of Binghamton (near the NY/Penn border).
It makes sense he is from this part of the country. I can't even express how horrid the culture is in this area. It isn't hard to find people driving around with Confederate flags on their trucks or to find a house with a Confederate flag, a Trump flag, and fuck Biden spelled out in guns flag. Last time I drove through this area, while waiting in line to pay for my gas/snacks the dude in front of me had nazi tattoos. Rural NY/Penn is fucking scary. It feels like Gummo II: Klan Edition.
What a shitty day for Buffalo. The city has its problems, but how awful for some piece of shit from middle-of-nowhere, NY to drive all the way up there to cause this tragedy.
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This fucker was from a small town just south of Binghamton (near the NY/Penn border).
It makes sense he is from this part of the country. I can't even express how horrid the culture is in this area. It isn't hard to find people driving around with Confederate flags on their trucks or to find a house with a Confederate flag, a Trump flag, and fuck Biden spelled out in guns flag. Last time I drove through this area, while waiting in line to pay for my gas/snacks the dude in front of me had nazi tattoos. Rural NY/Penn is fucking scary. It feels like Gummo II: Klan Edition.
What a shitty day for Buffalo. The city has its problems, but how awful for some piece of shit from middle-of-nowhere, NY to drive all the way up there to cause this tragedy.
We call it Pennsyltucky. I grew up there. Basically anything that isn't Pittsburgh, Philly, Erie, Scranton or State College is rust belt hell.
So I actually went to my hometown for the first time in a few years to hang out with my best buds from high school the other day. One of our "hobbies" growing up was driving around back roads and smoking weed...cruisin as it was known. Naturally, we went for a cruise while I was there and it was super fucked up how little things have changed in 20 years. I'm talking same cars in the driveway/yard, same poorly built doghouse with some miserable mutt chained to it (new mutt though), same shitty lawn ornaments.... Except there's trump signs everywhere now.
This is literally what the right wants. It's fucking sick.
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Pretty cool that "great replacement" is just mainstream Republican orthodoxy while the top Democrats in the US keep saying how they want the Republican Party to be strong.
Meanwhile, great replacement theory is what's driving the neo-Nazis in Ukraine whom the US are supporting in our proxy war with Russia.
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Sick of America not owning up to its racism
They are gonna just "lone shooter" narrative whitewash the shit out of this
Say something about "thoughts and prayers", maybe mention gun control and then do absolutely nothing because they dont want to inconvenience the nazi ass republicans
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Meanwhile, great replacement theory is what's driving the neo-Nazis in Ukraine whom the US are supporting in our proxy war with Russia.
There are some nazis in Ukraine but Russians are pure bully scum, also some of the biggest racists.
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Meanwhile, great replacement theory is what's driving the neo-Nazis in Ukraine whom the US are supporting in our proxy war with Russia.
There are some nazis in Ukraine but Russians are pure bully scum, also some of the biggest racists.
How is this relevant in any way to what I said?
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countdown for the “the fbi talked to this guy 6 months ago” story to come out
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Sick of America not owning up to its racism
They are gonna just "lone shooter" narrative whitewash the shit out of this
Say something about "thoughts and prayers", maybe mention gun control and then do absolutely nothing because they dont want to inconvenience the nazi ass republicans
yep, its either terrorism or a lone wolf, depending on skin colour. poor people. america is a scary place.
my dad watched some program where ewan mcgregor and some other guy did a cross continental motorcycle journey and america was the most dangerous country to camp by the roadside apparently
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countdown for the “the fbi talked to this guy 6 months ago” story to come out
Read that he had threatened to shoot a gradation ceremony last year and was referred to psychological evaluation but still managed to legally buy guns
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countdown for the “the fbi talked to this guy 6 months ago” story to come out
r u psychic?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gunman-who-killed-10-ny-supermarket-attack-was-authorities-radar-2022-05-15/
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this happens all the time. almost like they’re connected or something..
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I posted this in 2015 after another white supremicist committed a terrorist attack against black people, and I guess it’s still relevant… :-\
I think that people are making this too much about gun control and the confederate flag when the root of all this is just pure racism and white supremacy. The thing that is troubling is there are many white males out there who share the same views as fuccboi, they just would never take it to that level. I see it all the time on news comments sections, YouTube comments sections, social media, etc. There are websites like stormfront where thousands of white males post the most hateful messages and ideology. The crazy thing is these people could be teachers, lawyers, judges, jury members, etc. Some people think that racism will die out with the older generation but this fuccboi was in his 20's. Its a society problem. When 12 year kids are callig me a nigger over Xbox live, you know its not going to die.
The only real positive from this is i hope this opens up the dialogue about true racism in this country. Not just white peoples right to say the N word or a flag, but deep honest discussions on the dangers of racism in the future, how we can explain to our children why his thought process is wrong and should not be tolerated, and what can we do as a society to just make it not as prevalent.
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heavily substantiated connections between usa law enforcement and white supremacists by fbi
https://raskin.house.gov/2020/9/subcommittee-chairman-raskin-releases-fbi-document-white-supremacists-law
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Sick of America not owning up to its racism
They are gonna just "lone shooter" narrative whitewash the shit out of this
Say something about "thoughts and prayers", maybe mention gun control and then do absolutely nothing because they dont want to inconvenience the nazi ass republicans
yep, its either terrorism or a lone wolf, depending on skin colour. poor people. america is a scary place.
my dad watched some program where ewan mcgregor and some other guy did a cross continental motorcycle journey and america was the most dangerous country to camp by the roadside apparently
I don't know about it being that dangerous. Ive done the x country thing numerous times, camped in dodgy places, car parks, truck stops, etc and while there are many, many, fuck far too many poor and destitute people living on the road, I've never had problems. I keep my wits about me and don't trust anyone, so maybe that's why, but aside from that, America is a pretty scary place right now and its not going to be more welcoming anytime soon.
You know, I will say that when I was driving across during the months leading up the 2021 election, it felt scarier than ever. Although traffic was minimal due to covid, there were ominous feelings in the air.
Regarding this shooting, this is what the mainstream media viewed by Republicans pushes. Tucker Carlson is MSM...
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heavily substantiated connections between usa law enforcement and white supremacists by fbi
https://raskin.house.gov/2020/9/subcommittee-chairman-raskin-releases-fbi-document-white-supremacists-law
Gretchen Whitmer’s accused “kidnappers” ended up getting off on all charges when it became obvious that the FBI had directed the entire thing.
The two guys who were killed at the “Draw Mohammed” contest in Texas a few years ago had been working directly with the FBI for years, and two agents tailed them to the site in order to watch them attempt to commit mass murder.
There are just so many of examples of this sort of thing.
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Chilling, this guy says he got into a casual conversation with Payton the day before the attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxKjI1QUbg&t=203s&ab_channel=WIVBTV
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countdown for the “the fbi talked to this guy 6 months ago” story to come out
Read that he had threatened to shoot a gradation ceremony last year and was referred to psychological evaluation but still managed to legally buy guns
Well clearly the solution to the gun violence issue is more guns so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.
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nearly half of republican voters believe in "replacement theory"
which is blatantly just white nationalism
what conservatives are conserving has never been clearer
fuck all of you
and fuck me for thinking not all conservatives are fascist scum
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Wow, it’s almost as if America has a white supremacy problem…
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The right wing is in the process of taking this country by force. These incidents are going to increase exponentially and the powers that be will continue to do absolutely nothing about it.
This is just “the quiet part out loud” to the extreme. An alarming amount of them believe the exact same Shit or worse and think that those of us that don’t deserve to be killed for it. Real deal fascism is coming down the pipe, so be ready.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/)
Never heard the expression "black supremacist" until r/conservative today.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/)
Never heard the expression "black supremacist" until r/conservative today.
Yup, just like how conservatives never mention mental health when a minority shoots the place up.
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dude literal had "n******" spelled out on his gun...
black supremacists? give me a fucking break
want to be oppressed so bad. no wonder they want fascism
the white community needs to take accountability for white supremacy as an internal problem, not something poc have to deal with. nazis dont want to hear my black ass pointing out their racism, they want me gone or worse dead. let it be a father, mother, brother, sister, friend, etc of the so called "pure" blood they idolize and maybe there will be a change
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/)
Never heard the expression "black supremacist" until r/conservative today.
r/therightcantmeme
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Buffalo shooter - I'm gonna write 180 pages about the raging boner I got each time a white nationalist committed a mass shooting
Maga - Sounds like he's BLM/ Antifa to me
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Chilling, this guy says he got into a casual conversation with xxxxx the day before the attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxKjI1QUbg&t=203s&ab_channel=WIVBTV
Don’t say the shooters name dude, c’mon. I know man in the video says his name too but it’s not good practice.
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why not? it’s important to keep a compendium of people the FBI made contact with who went on to shoot up a place of worship or business
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why not? it’s important to keep a compendium of people the FBI made contact with who went on to shoot up a place of worship or business
because it gives them national fame when their name and face is plastered all over news outlets and propagates copycat crimes.
*not that I think SLAP of all internet forums is at risk, but like I said, it’s not good practice.
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tucker carlson is such a piece of shit. He basically blamed the shooting on the policies and politics of the democrats on his recent show. The fucking shitbag didn't actually address the whole replacement theory conspiracy that that psycho based his motives for killing black people on. A recent NYT article that came out actually found that pucker mentioned and pushed replacement theory on over 400 episodes of his show in the past few years. 400 FUCKING TIMES, on the highest rated show on fox news. This article actually came out before the shooting too. That sack of little dick energy has blood on his hands. Absolutely no doubt about it.
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why not? it’s important to keep a compendium of people the FBI made contact with who went on to shoot up a place of worship or business
because it gives them national fame when their name and face is plastered all over news outlets and propagates copycat crimes.
*not that I think SLAP of all internet forums is at risk, but like I said, it’s not good practice.
(https://i.imgur.com/bnWYNewh.jpg)
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What is interesting about a quick glance through this dipshits manifesto is: 1) that /pol/ probably gets to take credit for his shit beliefs (a fact that I'm sure they are celebrating) 2) the pseudo-science meme factory is supported by misinterpreted actual science (and retracted articles), which gives the /pol/ nonsense a foundation 3) he very much views himself as a leader of a movement (some Tim McVeigh vibes here).
However, in addition to all the victimhood this man thrusts upon "his people," my favorite line from the whole thing is "refusal to pay taxes a sign of racial loyalty."
I couldn't even imagine how bleak life would be if the greater NYC area said, "Hey, we are no longer going to pay the majority of NY's bills. We'll keep the Hudson, but everyone else in Upstate or Western NY you're on your own. Good luck."
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@Lurper
I don't often do democracy now! These days but this is a piece worth sharing with folks who arent aware of any internet culture
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/17/buffalo_gunman_hate_mainstream_gop_rhetoric (https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/17/buffalo_gunman_hate_mainstream_gop_rhetoric)
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why not? it’s important to keep a compendium of people the FBI made contact with who went on to shoot up a place of worship or business
because it gives them national fame when their name and face is plastered all over news outlets and propagates copycat crimes.
*not that I think SLAP of all internet forums is at risk, but like I said, it’s not good practice.
I appreciate your response to that question, I wanted to consider your explanation since this was a grave subject.
Took time to think about it, skimmed these sites dontnamethem.org (https://www.dontnamethem.org/) & nonotoriety.com (https://nonotoriety.com/) to get perspective.
I think there is a difference between a media agency responsible for broadcasting information to the public and a person discussing an event in a forum post dedicated to it.
You noted the minimal risk posting on SLAP, no one is lionizing him here.
I can respect your intention to enlighten me but I think you are stepping a little too far for the sake of PC sensitivity.
I could have included more commentary with my post but my intention was mainly to share an eye opening testimony from the man who had over an hour-long chance conversation with a kid who would later commit this horrific act.
I chose to name him because hearing it brought the humanity back into perspective for me. The man didn't talk to "the shooter", he introduced himself to a strange kid, spoke at length on various topics and traded names.
I think it's important to identify Payton as an individual culpable for such evil behavior. He is not an NPC run amok.
Whatever satisfaction he feels for being recognized is insignificant compared to the collective psychic threat that will be aimed at him his entire life*.
*edit: meaning he doesn't deserve anonymity
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I couldn't even imagine how bleak life would be if the greater NYC area said, "Hey, we are no longer going to pay the majority of NY's bills. We'll keep the Hudson, but everyone else in Upstate or Western NY you're on your own. Good luck."
I used to frequent a few special interest websites that had strong conservative leanings and the vitriol against cities in general was off the charts. A frequent response to any sort of crime hysteria (remember “the knock out game”?) was the Aliens quote “Nuke the site from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.”
You’d actually get people being less jokey about it who’d say it would be great if everyone in NYC would die, to which I’d sometimes ask if that meant they supported the actions of Osama Bin Laden and that would usually make their brain smoke.
A common theme in Pennsylvania is “getting rid of Philly” which, especially if it included the inner suburbs, would absolutely be a total win for the city and a fiscal disaster for the rest of the state.
There are a lot of rural Americans who seem to have zero grasp of the disproportionate government largesse they receive and it’s jarring to see brand new bridges in bumblefuck that get 20 cars a day and then see infrastructure in the city that gets 10,000 cars a day that’s falling apart.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/ur18fi/they_say_ignorance_is_bliss/)
Never heard the expression "black supremacist" until r/conservative today.
oh! Look up NOI if you want to learn about how twisted black supremacy is. Or La Raza, Mexican supremacy.
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do not besmirch the NOI or the prophet elijah muhammad you yakubian slime
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do not besmirch the NOI or the prophet elijah muhammad you yakubian slime
Teach these Devils
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@Lurper
I don't often do democracy now! These days but this is a piece worth sharing with folks who arent aware of any internet culture
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/17/buffalo_gunman_hate_mainstream_gop_rhetoric (https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/17/buffalo_gunman_hate_mainstream_gop_rhetoric)
Thanks.
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tucker carlson is such a piece of shit. He basically blamed the shooting on the policies and politics of the democrats on his recent show. The fucking shitbag didn't actually address the whole replacement theory conspiracy that that psycho based his motives for killing black people on. A recent NYT article that came out actually found that pucker mentioned and pushed replacement theory on over 400 episodes of his show in the past few years. 400 FUCKING TIMES, on the highest rated show on fox news. This article actually came out before the shooting too. That sack of little dick energy has blood on his hands. Absolutely no doubt about it.
What, did you honestly think that he was going to look in the mirror, accept responsibility for his actions, and become a better person?
That shits for flaming liberal sissies. Real men never admit when they're wrong.
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do not besmirch the NOI or the prophet elijah muhammad you yakubian slime
I used to work with a few NOI guys back in the early-aughts and they were all great. They believed the weirdest shit, like flat earth, Pineal Gland magic, third-eye stuff. They were also the only other people I knew at the time who believed the (now literally confirmed) theory that Malcolm X was killed by the FBI. This was a grocery store in a heavily Jewish part of town, so it was funny to watch their views evolve from "Jews have horns" into "that Jewish girl working checkout is pretty cute, huh?"
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A little too short but a brief look into Buffalo
I enjoyed the part where India criticizes Top's shit ass produce. I'd like to see a simple map showing where every Wegman's is and where every Tops is in the greater Buffalo area. Not only is much of the Black part of Buffalo a food desert, the few grocery stores in the Black neighborhoods suck balls compared to the insane awesomeness (and cheap prices) of Wegman's, especially the ones out in Amherst.
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/india-walton-buffalo-massacre-racism-segregation-disinvestment