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Title: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 15, 2022, 09:59:23 PM
Alright heres the deal:

These things fuck, and there is somehow no thread about these. Pretty tough to find info, but they are a ton of fun and easy enough to make out of an old deck.

Polarizers are a concept popularized(invented?) by Neil Blender, and can be made by cutting down an old deck and flipping it upside down, or purchased from theheatedwheel.com, or smaller boutique(as much as i hate that word) brands on instagram.

Heres a video of one in action:

https://vimeo.com/167815823 (https://vimeo.com/167815823)
my setup: (https://i.ibb.co/wN4CpyV/IMG-3926.jpg)
Heated Wheel Hewitt Deck
Sure Grip vintage
Rough Riders 56
Bones Hardcore Soft
6-32 hardware
3 washers on the inside, so the wheels dont touch the bushing seat
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: j....soy..... on May 15, 2022, 10:06:53 PM
Like a zip zinger we talkin?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 15, 2022, 10:07:56 PM
Like a zip zinger we talkin?
smaller, these boards are 6 inches at the widest. kind of a rule of polarizers to have negative or flat concave. gotta use old roller skates because even 109 indies are too big
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: tofuweenie on May 16, 2022, 12:56:37 AM
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109955.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109955.0)

^probs closest topic to what you’re thinking

I’ve been passively looking for a board to put on the sure grips I’ve got, but nothing has really caught my eye
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 16, 2022, 08:43:56 AM
https://vimeo.com/508239918 (https://vimeo.com/508239918)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 16, 2022, 09:21:47 AM
I built one a little while ago from an old deck. had a lot of fun shaping it with a jigsaw and sander. cleaned up the graphic and sprayed it with some random paint then clearcoated the whole thing. I pushed the WB as far as I could with the nose and tail -19.75" axle to axle.
This thing is super fun but i need to dial in the bushings a bit. I'm using stock indy bushings in place of what came on the sure grip trucks. Took a dremel to the truck plates to clear some room for proper nuts. I didn't want to use screws or tiny bolts and all the decent sized nuts with nylock didn't seat right on the plate.

Grimplarizer 6.25" x 27.5"
SureGrip trucks (Stock indy bushings) 2 speed rings inside, 1 outside.
Flip bearings here but swapped out with Swiss 6
Acid Pods - 55mm 86A
no grip on top.. yet

(https://i.ibb.co/FWBkpwL/IMG-3397.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jk5Wwrm/IMG-3399.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/JrYTq0L/IMG-3398.jpg)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 16, 2022, 10:03:24 AM
Not a Polarizer but a flat/borderline convex 70s style board:

(https://i.imgur.com/3lqNzvB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Og2rqkM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dsiofuu.jpg)

70s MPI Jimbo Philips (solid mahogany), 6" x 23", 11" WB
6" penny trucks, Ace bushings
OJ Superjuice 60mm

I've posted this in the tiny trucks thread, but I love it so any excuse to re-share.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 16, 2022, 10:39:00 PM
This looks like the kind of thing you can only ride in California.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on May 16, 2022, 11:34:01 PM
This looks like the kind of thing you can only ride in California.

Actually Blender and the polarizer cult swear by Bones Roughriders (and so do I)

You can cruise over most stuff with those bad boys.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Coping Grinder on May 17, 2022, 04:50:51 AM
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on May 17, 2022, 06:30:04 AM
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B91oGZglJ32/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 17, 2022, 09:17:30 AM
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.
it’s a nostalgia trip for older guys, a super fun cruiser, highly customizable diy project, and the turn is unlike anything else. it feels very strange because the boards don’t really tilt all that much due to small hangars
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 17, 2022, 09:21:11 AM
i need to dial in the bushings a bit. I'm using stock indy bushings in place of what came on the sure grip trucks.
(https://i.ibb.co/JrYTq0L/IMG-3398.jpg)
the bones soft bushings is what blender reccomends, but the way he sets it up you need two sets because he uses all bottoms for a deeper turn. i’ve seen a lot of people use powerdyne bushings and heard good things. because the hangars are so small you want to go considerably softer than you normally would because there’s less leverage on the bushings
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 17, 2022, 11:34:46 AM
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 17, 2022, 07:32:42 PM
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.

It gives the board a camber shape which makes flatground pumping and carving feel much easier and efficient. The middle of the board flexes, which you can see in the video in the OP of this thread.

https://www.anchorplankskateboards.com.au/post/what-is-longboard-skateboard-camber-rocker

You'll see this same concept on some slalom boards, moreso the older ones as I think current slalom boards rely on special trucks for the same performance nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-mgyaAD7fM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG5r7ZBcUd8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXgb_r9rg7A

Semi off topic but here's Rick McCrank competing in a freestyle competition and Frank Gerwer competing in a slalom competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEsNDQsRkM
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: tofuweenie on May 18, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
I know Bennetts are still produced—and modded—for  slalom I think. Pretty interesting.

https://www.sk8kings.com/bennett-modified-truck-skennett-front-turning-truck-106mm-one-truck.html
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 18, 2022, 06:14:10 PM
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
Exactly. I don’t have a polarizer (yet) but do have a 70s MPI for when I’m injured or walking the dog or rain rolls.
(https://i.postimg.cc/63qmXWDY/IMG-7979.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcG20gWy)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNbJbGwM/IMG-7978.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdZnyMzX)
Same as Ronnie Rodriguez’s. Flat except for a very slight kick tail.
 I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but haven’t caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 19, 2022, 12:18:03 AM
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The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
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I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but haven’t caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.
there will be a new drop this summer! i think mid july. shops have been getting them consistently but there’s 5 or so new graphic ones on the way
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 19, 2022, 12:44:00 AM

Semi off topic but here's Rick McCrank competing in a freestyle competition and Frank Gerwer competing in a slalom competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEsNDQsRkM

Just gonna piggyback on this and say anyone who's a fan of McCrank (so everyone) should watch post-radical. It always seems like no one knows it exists but it's one of my favorite vice shows.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Hyliannightmare on May 19, 2022, 03:34:47 AM
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.

This. I don't think I have the skillset to properly maximize one of these. They're cool to look at though especially the diy ones
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 19, 2022, 01:19:10 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdiTVcquqZZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CdiTVcquqZZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Misprint/Reversed Polarizer.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 19, 2022, 01:28:03 PM
Has anyone here used single-action trucks on the polarizer, and if so can they comment on how the ride is?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 19, 2022, 02:49:32 PM
Has anyone here used single-action trucks on the polarizer, and if so can they comment on how the ride is?

Would love to know as well. One of the last variants I haven't gotten around to trying out.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Candied cigarettes on May 19, 2022, 06:58:19 PM
 https://www.chicostix.com/products/chico-stix-x-ferris-plock-mini-6-25 (https://www.chicostix.com/products/chico-stix-x-ferris-plock-mini-6-25)

Probably not exactly it but somewhat close?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 19, 2022, 09:19:48 PM
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The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
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I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but haven’t caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.
[close]
there will be a new drop this summer! i think mid july. shops have been getting them consistently but there’s 5 or so new graphic ones on the way
Thanks. Hopefully they’ll be one left after 5pm when they do. Unfortunately in Yuba we have no shops and the closest are an hour away in any direction(Sacto/Grass Valley/Chico) so I’m always behind. I keep checking Neil’s site but haven’t hit any yet. Thanks again for the heads up about the next drop.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 20, 2022, 03:38:13 AM
To anyone generally unfamiliar with the concept of The Polarizer...


"Polarizer" is technically the name of the board sold from The Heated Wheel.

Some cult factions of the community believe that "Polarizer" is also the PERSON who MAKES the board, and that you're not a Polarizer and the board is not a Polarizer until you've put together the board with a set of specific parameters.

Those parameters include:

-Acquiring/making your own deck and riding it "upside down."
-Bones Swiss Bearings.
-New, low durometer wheels.
-Contested: Cut up roller skate trucks OR Sure Grip "vintage" skate trucks.
-Mounting said trucks of your own volition with a large wheelbase.
-Contested: Using wood/sheet metal screws to mount trucks.

Like all niche subgroups, the rules can get pedantic and silly to a beginner or outside observer.
With most things precious to people in these type of groups, there is a significant amount of gatekeeping.
And it's not without merit, because we all know that too much exposure can suck the life out of something pure.
You see, there is a bit of skate philosophy behind the making of this board.
It's not a gimmick or a trend.
The board was made to tap into a part of skateboarding that can get lost as new generations come up in a world of Instagram clips, "do a kickflip," Olympic exposure, etc.

Think of the idea of the "soul surfer." It's not far off of an idea, in that skateboarding's roots are that of the "sidewalk surfboard." A polarizer is the modern version of the sidewalk skateboard. It's the original idea of skateboarding with modern
technology. When people ride one for the first time, it feels fucking weird and scary because you're both regressing and progressing, if that makes sense. It's a way, in my opinion, to "relearn" how to skate. You have to learn to turn, to carve, to flow, or else it won't work. You have to retrain your muscle memory to commit to deeper carves. You have to GO FAST. You HAVE to actually SKATE.

I fucking love these boards. I'm older, and I found myself gravitating towards Zip Zingers, smaller and looser trucks, and speed cruising towards the end of my tenure with traditional skateboards. I had no interest in big, pig-style cruisers, Landyachtz style boards, or anything that felt like a Sherman Tank. I wanted smaller, squirrelly boards that still had a foot in my history with skateboarding. When someone turned me on to polarizers, I instantly got it. That's what I was looking for. The simplicity and the originality. New/Old.



If you decide to fall down the rabbit hole of Polarization, be prepared for a  veritable shit-ton of talk about bushings.
And pivot cups.
And how to remove a 7mm axle from a roller skate.
And wheelbase.
And "Where can I get a copy of When the Grunion Run?"
And why won't Blender answer my DMs/send me a board/do my dishes/berate my stepdad.




Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 20, 2022, 06:36:33 AM
There was a blog post I read that compared Polarizers to rat rod culture and I think that's pretty accurate. https://shredshack.com/building-a-polarizer-skateboard/
Rebirth of the old, emphasis on performance. Its much more DIY endeavor than buying a complete or getting of the shelf parts and assembling.

Here's a before/after of the grimple polarization.
I slapped on some scraps of grip last night. Gonna fuck with my bushings this weekend and fine some hills and banks to get bionic on.
(https://i.ibb.co/X8tkrv9/66770546320-8-B70-DD57-3-C0-B-4423-9558-08534-A3-AF685.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/C6c2hr4/IMG-3303.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 20, 2022, 12:18:59 PM
Not tried an actual Heated Wheel Polarizer, but I've done the cut up an old deck and turn it upside down thing, and also have a 70s 27" fibreglass deck in Polarizer shape.

For me the wooden deck didn't work well. It felt like you were standing on the deck, whilst with the flex of the fibreglass deck you're more connected when you push down as you carve a bank or pump and slalom on the flat. A much nicer feeling.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 20, 2022, 06:55:26 PM
If you can find a 6 ply those flex a lot. I’m going to hit up Corey when he does a batch of 6’s for Winsor. Hopefully he can spare one before they’re cut.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on May 20, 2022, 07:49:05 PM
I’ve cut up a Powell flight, and it works great. Nice flex, and super strong. Just  use gloves and goggles when you cut it up, as the carbon fiber layers can be a pain
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 21, 2022, 02:37:43 AM
I’ve cut up a Powell flight, and it works great. Nice flex, and super strong.

How heavy are you? I've cut old Krooked and Zero decks down to 6" wide, extended the wheelbase, and there was no flex. I'm around 11 stone.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on May 21, 2022, 05:34:32 AM
176 kg.

Not a ton of flex like a full fiberglass deck, but they are thin enough to have a nice bit of it if you push into it.

My first attempt, regular wood deck
(Tried mounting it upside down, proper polarizer style, but didn’t like it)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_CIRWolIU6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

And the flight deck

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_cLJv9FdyS/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 22, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
Cheap blank that I flaked and was going to be paneled and candied. Screw it. Got tired of wanting a polarizer so this will be it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jdsysDkm/8-B3-A5574-6-E73-4377-A8-CC-7-C0-D0602-E211.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5VJgkwW)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8P5sKMYp/2-FABD97-D-09-C3-406-A-AE1-A-649581-FD06-B7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhcHhYRw)
(https://i.postimg.cc/t46qw5Nj/AA806583-475-E-4838-838-B-953-A39-D5-B328.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YJRhp0L)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7LVkrQCp/ABDA97-D4-57-F9-40-C0-A84-D-01-A54-DF31-F7-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyGgbx5q)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTzV1dJG/AA407-BBB-31-F5-45-E9-BDBD-249-AC3-AA3-B37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr0bD0c6)
It’ll get shaped later. Curbs are calling.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: artskool on May 23, 2022, 07:26:54 AM
Riding a board with no ability to do a kick turn changes everything. Even riding normal boards I find myself carving around the park differently now.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 23, 2022, 06:39:22 PM
I get the hype now. These are fun.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qM7hWbGS/93-BC1434-DC02-42-D5-A101-39-C21-A093-D0-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pygLFB4J)
No the trucks aren’t messed up, just floppy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXT5bLgm/A53-CFDA7-F38-E-47-B6-B3-A2-EBFE72-EC9203.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G84bBBjf)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 23, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
I gotta get one
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 24, 2022, 12:21:24 AM
can someone explain to me the correct way to tighten roller skate trucks with inverted kingpin and no locknut? i thought i understood it but my sure grips always end up coming loose  after a few hours of skating around :-\
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on May 24, 2022, 06:42:51 AM
While picking up a bike trailer to cart my 4-year old around in, the guy who sold it to me saw the skateboard in my car and asked me if I wanted an old one he was going to throw out.

He bought a lodge in a ski town, and this thing has been sitting in there forever.

He handed it to me. I thought it was some old penny board and I could scavenge the trucks but fuck me I saw “G&S” on the wheels and was kinda blown away.

So it’s a heavily delammed Rockit Skateboard, with ACS  500 trucks (9-hike boot pattern) and G&S wheels

The trucks are fairly rusty, and I’m asking around for advice about getting the rust off and what bushings to replace it with.

Anyone knowledgeable about old G&S stuff?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on May 24, 2022, 08:21:40 AM
There’s a thread somewhere and I’ve been bangin on about em for years. Love em! So glad they’re a bit easier to get real ones finally. Here’s my one from 2018 that’s still going strong. Made one a bit earlier too.

Edit: thread for ref https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109955.0

(https://i.imgur.com/xQwoafX.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/s3BM8w8.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/AerJsZ9.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/S4bZ3VI.jpg?1)

Heated Wheel Polarizer 6 ply 6.0
Sure Grip Rollerskate Trucks
Bones Rough Riders 56mm
Powerdyne Hop Up Kit Bushings
Bones Swiss 6

I finally snagged a real Polarizer off Neil Blender. Heated Wheel is Blenders board company and he makes a small amount of these a year, and they're pretty much just available in 2 San Diego skate shops, so i'm beyond stoked.  Picked up a Vert board too which i'll post later.  Cant describe the ride on these things, too much fun.  Turns like nothing else and feels so comfortable. Slight convex, downturned nose and tail and super low to the ground, feels amazing under foot and you can turn so deep and tight. Rollerskate trucks turn much better than small skate trucks.  Nothing like it on a flowy small bowl, on a beer run or just pelting down some hills.  Watson Laminates presses the boards and the stain is so glossy and nice.  Stoked.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 24, 2022, 08:54:47 AM
can someone explain to me the correct way to tighten roller skate trucks with inverted kingpin and no locknut? i thought i understood it but my sure grips always end up coming loose  after a few hours of skating around :-\

did you take the bottom lock nut off?
thought that was necessary to lock the kingpin otherwise yeah it would spin freely right?
I thread the kingpin to the necessary tightness then tighten down the lock nut to keep everything from loosening
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 24, 2022, 09:16:52 AM
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can someone explain to me the correct way to tighten roller skate trucks with inverted kingpin and no locknut? i thought i understood it but my sure grips always end up coming loose  after a few hours of skating around :-\
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did you take the bottom lock nut off?
thought that was necessary to lock the kingpin otherwise yeah it would spin freely right?
I thread the kingpin to the necessary tightness then tighten down the lock nut to keep everything from loosening
no, that’s what i’ve been doing. i guess maybe i am just not tightening it enough as my wrench is wider than the nut so it’s pretty awkward to turn
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: FROTHY on May 24, 2022, 09:35:14 AM
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can someone explain to me the correct way to tighten roller skate trucks with inverted kingpin and no locknut? i thought i understood it but my sure grips always end up coming loose  after a few hours of skating around :-\
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did you take the bottom lock nut off?
thought that was necessary to lock the kingpin otherwise yeah it would spin freely right?
I thread the kingpin to the necessary tightness then tighten down the lock nut to keep everything from loosening
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no, that’s what i’ve been doing. i guess maybe i am just not tightening it enough as my wrench is wider than the nut so it’s pretty awkward to turn

If you want to loosen them, unscrew the top bolt then screw the bottom nut down to make it snug with the baseplate.
If you want to tighten them, screw the bottom nut up to squeeze the bushing assembly together, then screw then top bolt down to make the whole thing snug with the baseplate. If you really crank down the lock nut, it should stay put for several sessions, but I always check the trucks before riding because they are a little unreliable.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 24, 2022, 10:10:30 AM
anyone know when the heated wheel decks are coming back in stock? these have peaked my interest, and people never know what to get me for my birthday that's coming up in july.....
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 24, 2022, 11:54:04 AM
New Heated Wheel Polarizers around mid June, I believe. Four new polarizers, three graphics, one all white I think.

For probably about a day on the site, so get ready.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 24, 2022, 12:15:04 PM
Snagged one!
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y4vGbQW/95533575-64-ED-4405-A77-E-0-DD10189-F204.png) (https://postimg.cc/9RSwt9S9)
No, the irony isn’t lost on me. 🥴
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 24, 2022, 12:42:57 PM
do these things wheelbite like crazy with the reverse concave?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 24, 2022, 02:13:20 PM
do these things wheelbite like crazy with the reverse concave?
nope, smaller trucks=less wheelbite
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 24, 2022, 03:29:21 PM
do these things wheelbite like crazy with the reverse concave?

I've gotten more TOP BUSHING WASHER BITE than wheelbite.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 24, 2022, 07:02:58 PM
30ish minute roll on mine and no wheelbite at all(floppy loose trucks and 55 mini juices).
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on May 25, 2022, 08:21:43 AM
For the folks using the SureGrip vintage trucks: what size wood screws or hardware are you running?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 25, 2022, 09:04:23 AM
For the folks using the SureGrip vintage trucks: what size wood screws or hardware are you running?
6-32
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 25, 2022, 09:28:45 AM
so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 25, 2022, 03:09:14 PM
so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant


they flex, absolutely.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 26, 2022, 05:20:41 AM
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so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant
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they flex, absolutely.

Word, im deff going to try to snag one rather than make my own then.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 26, 2022, 05:05:43 PM
so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant
the formica is on the top and bottom and im pretty sure its just for cosmetic purposes. my hewitt model is 5 plies of wood then the 2 formica, and flexes for sure with a 18.5" axle to axle wheelbase.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on May 26, 2022, 05:13:06 PM
so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant

My one is a 6 ply and has a bit of flex, but not heaps. You feel it when you really dig into a turn though.  Depends on how wide you do your wheelbase too, obviously.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Giza Butler on May 27, 2022, 12:49:17 AM
Just got my Hewitt polarizer and I didn’t know it does not come with mounting holes.

How have you handled it?

I have received some furniture looking screws but I don’t want to fuck it up. So I was thinking to drill holes and use skate bolts, or it it ok to use just wooden screws?

Thanks
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 27, 2022, 02:26:37 AM
I'd use normal skate bolts. Cover it with masking tape, or any tape that doesn't leave a residue, measure, mark out, check, and drill. Once you've drilled one hole, you can mount the truck baseplate with one bolt as template.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on May 27, 2022, 08:03:21 AM
The best screws I found we’re bones rail screws. They bite and grip like nothing else. Wish you could just buy them separately.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 27, 2022, 12:21:54 PM
Just got my Hewitt polarizer and I didn’t know it does not come with mounting holes.

How have you handled it?

I have received some furniture looking screws but I don’t want to fuck it up. So I was thinking to drill holes and use skate bolts, or it it ok to use just wooden screws?

Thanks

what trucks are you using? if you got sure grips they have different sized holes. (6-32 at hardware store)

-trace out the truck on a piece of paper, and mark the holes. fold it in half holding up to light so you can make sure the holes are lining up perfect.

-put a piece of rope or fishing line along the deck, and measure throughout the deck to make sure it’s perfectly centered from end to end.

-tape your truck template to desired wheelbase, line up your fold with the string, and drill
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Giza Butler on May 28, 2022, 01:31:08 AM
Thanks for all the tips.

So RipRide skate shop sells these mounting screws that are like the ones for rails.

And yeah I got the Sure Grip trucks.

I am just unsure if they are going to hold vs regular skate bolts.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 29, 2022, 10:01:50 PM
so do the heated wheel decks have some flex to them? Is that what the formica layers do? I'm totally ignorant

i made this short video to try to show the flex that they have. 18.5 axle to axle. i weigh like 160 something. you dont feel it as much as it appears in the video.

not sure how to make it a regular youtube video instead of whatever a short is, but it works

https://youtube.com/shorts/RCoM1O6xMqk? (https://youtube.com/shorts/RCoM1O6xMqk?)


So RipRide skate shop sells these mounting screws that are like the ones for rails.
I am just unsure if they are going to hold vs regular skate bolts.
my understanding is that they hold, but probably get pretty sketchy after a while. i think usually people use those so they can test out a wheelbase before committing to drilling the board
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on May 29, 2022, 10:40:19 PM
I’ve been running ones rail screws for 4 years on my heated wheel polarizer and about 5 or 6 on my Krooked cut down homemade one. They hold fine.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Giza Butler on May 30, 2022, 06:00:24 AM
I’ve been running ones rail screws for 4 years on my heated wheel polarizer and about 5 or 6 on my Krooked cut down homemade one. They hold fine.

Cheers thanks a lot, I’ll let you know what happens! Ahhahaha
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 30, 2022, 06:47:17 AM
HUGE PROTIP WHEN GETTING INTO POLARIZERS AND USING SURE GRIP "PEANUT PLATE" TRUCKS:

The threads on the kingpin going into the aluminum baseplate are infamous for cross-threading. Serious business.

So if you fall down the bushing rabbit hole, be very aware that shit could go south pretty fast.

Try not to put too much force when changing things around.

I've had SG peanuts last five bushing switches and had some last one.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 30, 2022, 08:40:41 PM
Just a heads up, you can buy the hangers and baseplates separately.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NGgz98T/627-EF25-D-51-A0-4-CC4-B3-D5-F215-ADB322-D8.png) (https://postimg.cc/s1Tqzvdn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2Xk6L5s/B95-AB590-576-E-4683-A9-F0-E31-F00-C7-EDE1.png) (https://postimg.cc/9wDpCXZS)
For those special occasions when you strip one.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: YungJugg on May 30, 2022, 09:07:55 PM
HUGE PROTIP WHEN GETTING INTO POLARIZERS AND USING SURE GRIP "PEANUT PLATE" TRUCKS:

The threads on the kingpin going into the aluminum baseplate are infamous for cross-threading. Serious business.

So if you fall down the bushing rabbit hole, be very aware that shit could go south pretty fast.

Try not to put too much force when changing things around.

I've had SG peanuts last five bushing switches and had some last one.

maybe thats why I cant get the kingpin to budge at all on my sure grips.

any tips or is it locked in for good?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 31, 2022, 01:43:41 PM
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HUGE PROTIP WHEN GETTING INTO POLARIZERS AND USING SURE GRIP "PEANUT PLATE" TRUCKS:

The threads on the kingpin going into the aluminum baseplate are infamous for cross-threading. Serious business.

So if you fall down the bushing rabbit hole, be very aware that shit could go south pretty fast.

Try not to put too much force when changing things around.

I've had SG peanuts last five bushing switches and had some last one.
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maybe thats why I cant get the kingpin to budge at all on my sure grips.

any tips or is it locked in for good?



2 things might be happening.

The "action nut" (hexnut UNDER your bushings) might be tightened completely flush with baseplate, which can effectively lock the kingpin. Try loosening the action nut, tightening towards the bushings. Lay the board in front of you trucks up, back truck turn action nut AWAY from you, front truck turn action nut TOWARDS you -to make sure action nut isn't tightened to the baseplate. Then try to turn the kingpin...

If that isn't the culprit, you more than likely have crossthreads. If you're in need of the bushings, try a couple of vice grips and some force, but if it's done it's done.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 15, 2022, 07:32:47 AM
Anyone know when these are being restocked?
Rode one the other day and it was absurdly fun.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 15, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
Anyone know when these are being restocked?
Rode one the other day and it was absurdly fun.
some shops have them in stock. there are 5 or 6 new designs coming this summer.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 15, 2022, 10:27:20 AM
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Anyone know when these are being restocked?
Rode one the other day and it was absurdly fun.
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some shops have them in stock. there are 5 or 6 new designs coming this summer.

Any idea when the release is? Someone mentioned mid june a little while ago, and I havent heard anything else. def trying to hop on one of these
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 15, 2022, 05:27:09 PM
well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 15, 2022, 06:51:28 PM
well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 16, 2022, 01:08:42 AM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
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Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 16, 2022, 05:40:55 AM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
[close]

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
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it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...

Nice, wasnt sure if there were gonna be totally different options. MY LADY JUST ORDERED ME A STANDARD POLARIZER AND SUREGRIPS FOR MY BIRTHDAY! fucking pumped.

So for wheels im seeing people suggest 54-58mm? 78-88a duro? Bones rough riders are the go to?  I'm most concerned about wheelbite and kingpin bite i guess. what would yall suggest? Man I'm stoked to get on one of these.

edit: basically between the green 56mm rough riders or the white 55mm mini super juice. are the mini superjuice offset like the regular ones? and the rough riders offest?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 16, 2022, 07:34:27 AM
I’m so fucking hyped for this to arrive at my doorstep. Straight up feel like a child anticipating Christmas right now.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 16, 2022, 08:20:40 AM
I’m so fucking hyped for this to arrive at my doorstep. Straight up feel like a child anticipating Christmas right now.

You and me both!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 16, 2022, 08:40:10 AM
had to snag one.. excited to see how my copycat measures up to real thing

the hewitt was tempting but I couldn't pick it over the regular Polarizer
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 16, 2022, 09:05:02 AM
had to snag one.. excited to see how my copycat measures up to real thing

the hewitt was tempting but I couldn't pick it over the regular Polarizer

I was having a hard time choosing. went with the regular one because its longer and im tall af. the convex top kinda weirds me out, but this is supposed to be a fun/weird board, so i just decided to roll with it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 16, 2022, 09:48:27 AM
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had to snag one.. excited to see how my copycat measures up to real thing

the hewitt was tempting but I couldn't pick it over the regular Polarizer
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I was having a hard time choosing. went with the regular one because its longer and im tall af. the convex top kinda weirds me out, but this is supposed to be a fun/weird board, so i just decided to roll with it.

just wait until your foot gets used to the convex top and you go back to concave.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 16, 2022, 10:38:51 AM
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had to snag one.. excited to see how my copycat measures up to real thing

the hewitt was tempting but I couldn't pick it over the regular Polarizer
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I was having a hard time choosing. went with the regular one because its longer and im tall af. the convex top kinda weirds me out, but this is supposed to be a fun/weird board, so i just decided to roll with it.
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just wait until your foot gets used to the convex top and you go back to concave.

My regular board is gonna feel like a damn snowboard. LOCKED TF IN BABY!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on June 16, 2022, 10:54:18 AM
Just got two so they're still available

I don't think they announced it on SM or they would have sold out in a minute. Thank you Ed
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 16, 2022, 11:13:12 AM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
[close]

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
[close]
it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...
[close]

Nice, wasnt sure if there were gonna be totally different options. MY LADY JUST ORDERED ME A STANDARD POLARIZER AND SUREGRIPS FOR MY BIRTHDAY! fucking pumped.

So for wheels im seeing people suggest 54-58mm? 78-88a duro? Bones rough riders are the go to?  I'm most concerned about wheelbite and kingpin bite i guess. what would yall suggest? Man I'm stoked to get on one of these.

edit: basically between the green 56mm rough riders or the white 55mm mini super juice. are the mini superjuice offset like the regular ones? and the rough riders offest?

I've got some of the 55mm, 78a, OJs. They're offset, and work fine. People on here have complained about chunking, but no issues for me.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 16, 2022, 12:49:42 PM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
[close]

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
[close]
it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...
[close]

Nice, wasnt sure if there were gonna be totally different options. MY LADY JUST ORDERED ME A STANDARD POLARIZER AND SUREGRIPS FOR MY BIRTHDAY! fucking pumped.

So for wheels im seeing people suggest 54-58mm? 78-88a duro? Bones rough riders are the go to?  I'm most concerned about wheelbite and kingpin bite i guess. what would yall suggest? Man I'm stoked to get on one of these.

edit: basically between the green 56mm rough riders or the white 55mm mini super juice. are the mini superjuice offset like the regular ones? and the rough riders offest?
i have 56 rough riders in my sure grips and have 0 problems with any bite. they are symmetrical unlike mini super juice. i have both but haven’t tried the mini super juice on the polarizer and think i prefer the rough riders. they start to slide just a bit when i really dig into a turn
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 16, 2022, 01:40:34 PM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
[close]

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
[close]
it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...
[close]

Nice, wasnt sure if there were gonna be totally different options. MY LADY JUST ORDERED ME A STANDARD POLARIZER AND SUREGRIPS FOR MY BIRTHDAY! fucking pumped.

So for wheels im seeing people suggest 54-58mm? 78-88a duro? Bones rough riders are the go to?  I'm most concerned about wheelbite and kingpin bite i guess. what would yall suggest? Man I'm stoked to get on one of these.

edit: basically between the green 56mm rough riders or the white 55mm mini super juice. are the mini superjuice offset like the regular ones? and the rough riders offest?
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i have 56 rough riders in my sure grips and have 0 problems with any bite. they are symmetrical unlike mini super juice. i have both but haven’t tried the mini super juice on the polarizer and think i prefer the rough riders. they start to slide just a bit when i really dig into a turn

I went with the 56mm rough riders.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 16, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
I've got both the original mini-juice with the sharp edges, and the newer radial edge version. The sharp edge OJs have a lot of grip. Run through slalom cones with no slippage.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: JeremyScottofChapman on June 17, 2022, 09:07:48 AM
Super fucking stoked on this thread.  Looking to buy some PowerDyne Magic cushions but not sure to get with:
Powerdyne plate or reactor plate?  Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 17, 2022, 09:53:04 AM
Super fucking stoked on this thread.  Looking to buy some PowerDyne Magic cushions but not sure to get with:
Powerdyne plate or reactor plate?  Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Magic Cushions are great bushings. 78a red and 82a orange are usually the best bet, but it's of course up to your riding
style. Be aware that at the moment the "hop up kit" is no longer available, which was a cone and barrel bushing. "magic cushions" are TWO BARRELS, which in my opinion is a great ride. I ride two 78a red barrels on ACS 430s, and they're great.

the "standard" right now is fitting two lower bones bushings onto a sure grip peanut truck, and I find them too stiff. Magic cushions have rebound/resistance in the right balance from my experience.

If you're looking for a cone/barrel setup, BONT bushings make some, and I think they're a nice set. I have BONT 78As on my Hewitt on some Sure Grip peanuts, and that shit is rad.

As far as which roller plate....be aware that some of those newer roller plates are a bit pricey for what their ultimate purpose is, which is to be sawed up and stuck on a rat rod of a skateboard. Your money, your choice, live while you can....but a pair of Sure Grip Joggers off of Offerup/ebay or whatever you find at an old thrift store might be just as good. Experiment first, don't buy the high-end until you get a feel for what you want the ride to feel like...

I tell folks to get a pair of Sure Grip peanut trucks and put some magic cushions in them to start off with. they're great "beginner" trucks, easy to find and mount, and will get you accustomed to riding a polarizer. Once you re-adjust, you can start going down any number of rabbit holes involving every else...


Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 17, 2022, 10:03:13 AM
I've also got ACS 430 trucks. Orange Khiro 79a bushings up front. An old Tracker (about 80-83a) bushing on the bottom, and standard orange Independent top bushing on the back. Works well for me at 10.5 stone, 147lbs, 66.6kg,
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 17, 2022, 09:24:30 PM
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well as of this evening, there are two polarizers available via theheatedwheel.

better move fast.

not the new round of designs, just the two black/black polarizer, and the Hewitt black/white back in stock.
[close]

Woa! Nice. Do you know if the new designs will be new shapes? Or just graphics?
[close]
it’s the standard “polarizer” shape. in all white, and then some white ones with a graphic. ship start was supposed to be 6/15...
[close]

Nice, wasnt sure if there were gonna be totally different options. MY LADY JUST ORDERED ME A STANDARD POLARIZER AND SUREGRIPS FOR MY BIRTHDAY! fucking pumped.

So for wheels im seeing people suggest 54-58mm? 78-88a duro? Bones rough riders are the go to?  I'm most concerned about wheelbite and kingpin bite i guess. what would yall suggest? Man I'm stoked to get on one of these.

edit: basically between the green 56mm rough riders or the white 55mm mini super juice. are the mini superjuice offset like the regular ones? and the rough riders offest?
I’m running the OJ mini juice and haven’t had an issue with them. I am running 3 washers on the inside though(w/o you’ll get hanger bite) I’ve apparently gotten wheel bite on my deck but never felt it and definitely nothing that would’ve tossed me. Oh, make sure you run conical bushings top/bottom. I tried some cone/barrel(78a) and even with both trucks floppy loose my regular board turned better. With the conical bottom it was magical. Oh good bearings are a must the QBS isotopes in the OJs fawking roll!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 18, 2022, 12:20:48 AM
I run standard barrel/cone bushing combo. Works fine. Though I use flat washers top and bottom, not cupped. Less restriction on the turn of the trucks.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 18, 2022, 11:06:57 AM
Makes sense. I didn’t think of that at all. Dropped both washers when I swapped the bushings and I’m in love so not going to mess with it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: DaleSr on June 21, 2022, 08:35:57 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/hK7mcNL/63-D78-C42-CB02-428-A-A64-D-20-B9-F7-AD357-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cn1H6ym)
(https://i.ibb.co/pW6B0jT/8-DA19-E3-F-D86-B-45-C3-AA55-2-DC3-E03-CECD9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZHRpLzr)
(https://i.ibb.co/RvB8STS/3560-CF67-8-C6-C-428-C-837-E-56-D35-A8-F8-BD7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1MLtKt)

Here's my actual vintage fiberglass board as well as this little z-flex cruiser that i got back when i worked for them. Both are super fun to cruise around on although the flex of the fiberglass is pretty terrifying some times
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 23, 2022, 04:28:40 AM
That Z-Flex is super rad!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 23, 2022, 07:07:44 AM
Mine should be here today! stoked
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 23, 2022, 07:30:24 AM
Mine should be here today! stoked

Samesies. Don't think I can drill it until next weekend because I'm swamped with work but holy hell am I stoked. Got some red Rough Riders and Swiss the other day, good times ahead on this blazer.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 23, 2022, 08:29:11 AM
Mine just landed. Super rad lookin deck.

Laid it next to my copy cat for comparison. The real deal is pretty flat.. about 4 inches of flat across with an inch of concave on each side. Very mellow 2” nose and 2.5” tail before it flattens out.
6 and a 1/16th” at the widest. 5.5-5.75” where you’d mount the trucks, tapering a bit more up front. Style points for the subtlety of the shape.. Blender knows what he’s doing.

Manufactured at BBS, standard 7ply, no formica
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 23, 2022, 09:10:57 AM
Mine just landed. Super rad lookin deck.

Laid it next to my copy cat for comparison. The real deal is pretty flat.. about 4 inches of flat across with an inch of concave on each side. Very mellow 2” nose and 2.5” tail before it flattens out.
6 and a 1/16th” at the widest. 5.5-5.75” where you’d mount the trucks, tapering a bit more up front. Style points for the subtlety of the shape.. Blender knows what he’s doing.

Manufactured at BBS, standard 7ply, no formica
mind sharing photos? all the previous ones were ps stix.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 23, 2022, 09:58:40 AM

Manufactured at BBS, standard 7ply, no formica

Thinner plys than a standard popsicle deck? Much flex when you stand on it?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 23, 2022, 10:45:08 AM
Thinner plys than a standard popsicle deck? Much flex when you stand on it?
no thinner.. standard 7ply flex

mind sharing photos? all the previous ones were ps stix.
of course

(https://i.ibb.co/r2M0NH6/IMG-3856.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DkTFCHv/IMG-3859.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zQ5L26t/IMG-3862.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 23, 2022, 11:12:08 AM
Just got mine, dang she’s a beaut. Ive only ridden the Hewitt which is flat, for some reason I was expecting the polarizer to be far more convex, looks very subtle. Love the point on the nose.

Mine is also BBS, any noticeable difference in shape between PS and BBS?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 23, 2022, 01:22:59 PM
Mine just came in too. BBS as well. The warning and BBS stickers were on the side where the nose and tail point upwards? Did they just get confused?

Now I'm considering mounting my trucks so that I have little kicks. Will this kill the vibe?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 23, 2022, 05:16:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hK7mcNL/63-D78-C42-CB02-428-A-A64-D-20-B9-F7-AD357-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cn1H6ym)
(https://i.ibb.co/pW6B0jT/8-DA19-E3-F-D86-B-45-C3-AA55-2-DC3-E03-CECD9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZHRpLzr)
(https://i.ibb.co/RvB8STS/3560-CF67-8-C6-C-428-C-837-E-56-D35-A8-F8-BD7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1MLtKt)

Here's my actual vintage fiberglass board as well as this little z-flex cruiser that i got back when i worked for them. Both are super fun to cruise around on although the flex of the fiberglass is pretty terrifying some times
Those are fawking beautiful.
I don’t recall if my polarizer had the bbs sticker or not. Also I DO know that they printed the graphics upside down.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJ0smdFN/F5-FB7193-3495-4932-A1-B7-267730728-E08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKVwBpJn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRMvbqCH/C6-C8-BC83-935-C-4-C67-91-D6-3617-C6-F0-FC13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSqT176R)
Does that make it a decentralizer?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 24, 2022, 12:31:51 AM

I don’t recall if my polarizer had the bbs sticker or not. Also I DO know that they printed the graphics upside down.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJ0smdFN/F5-FB7193-3495-4932-A1-B7-267730728-E08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKVwBpJn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRMvbqCH/C6-C8-BC83-935-C-4-C67-91-D6-3617-C6-F0-FC13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSqT176R)
Does that make it a decentralizer?
this is a ps stix. there was the inital run, then the second run was printed backwards.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 24, 2022, 08:47:26 AM
Looks like all the decks available in the UK are the backwards printed ones. Not that it really matters.

Is there much of a taper? Can anyone measure the width 4"s in from the front and rear. I'm guessing there's 1/2" or so difference.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 24, 2022, 09:55:43 AM
Looks like all the decks available in the UK are the backwards printed ones. Not that it really matters.

Is there much of a taper? Can anyone measure the width 4"s in from the front and rear. I'm guessing there's 1/2" or so difference.

4" off the point of the nose - 5 1/4"
4" off the end of the tail - 5 7/16"
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 24, 2022, 10:19:49 AM
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Looks like all the decks available in the UK are the backwards printed ones. Not that it really matters.

Is there much of a taper? Can anyone measure the width 4"s in from the front and rear. I'm guessing there's 1/2" or so difference.
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4" off the point of the nose - 5 1/4"
4" off the end of the tail - 5 7/16"

Thank you. So not much of a difference. More aesthically pleasing to set up the board backwards, but easy to flip the trucks around if I were to drill holes in the deck (I prefer to have a slightly tighter rear truck).
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: postmodernpain on June 24, 2022, 01:34:45 PM
I got my polarizer with the sure grips in the mail the other day. I went to set it up and I realized standard hardware wouldn't fit the mounting holes on the sure grips.

If anyone is looking to use the SG trucks, you'll want 8-32 x 1" bolts which is slightly smaller in diameter than the standard skateboard hardware.

Anyone have any recommendations for a wheelbase for this thing?

I'm setting it up convex, and just eyeballing truck placement I had 22" axle to axle.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 24, 2022, 01:54:19 PM
I got my polarizer with the sure grips in the mail the other day. I went to set it up and I realized standard hardware wouldn't fit the mounting holes on the sure grips.

If anyone is looking to use the SG trucks, you'll want 8-32 x 1" bolts which is slightly smaller in diameter than the standard skateboard hardware.

Anyone have any recommendations for a wheelbase for this thing?

I'm setting it up convex, and just eyeballing truck placement I had 22" axle to axle.

i run 19 1/4 on the polarizer and i love it. gives about 3 inches either way on the deck.

personal preference, obviously.

and good god, you have to run it convex! it's the purpose of the thing.


Just got my new one today. BBS, 7 play, the logo is about 1/3 larger on top and bottom from the last batch, with the logos facing the correct direction. ha!

New one has much less curve to the deck that the reversed logo batch. Actually feels almost flat until you get to the edges. The reversed logo batch is much more convex from center.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 24, 2022, 03:11:38 PM
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I got my polarizer with the sure grips in the mail the other day. I went to set it up and I realized standard hardware wouldn't fit the mounting holes on the sure grips.

If anyone is looking to use the SG trucks, you'll want 8-32 x 1" bolts which is slightly smaller in diameter than the standard skateboard hardware.

Anyone have any recommendations for a wheelbase for this thing?

I'm setting it up convex, and just eyeballing truck placement I had 22" axle to axle.
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i run 19 1/4 on the polarizer and i love it. gives about 3 inches either way on the deck.

personal preference, obviously.

and good god, you have to run it convex! it's the purpose of the thing.


Just got my new one today. BBS, 7 play, the logo is about 1/3 larger on top and bottom from the last batch, with the logos facing the correct direction. ha!

New one has much less curve to the deck that the reversed logo batch. Actually feels almost flat until you get to the edges. The reversed logo batch is much more convex from center.
have any preference? this is giving me fomo to scoop a ps stix while they are still around. only have the hewitt right now.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: postmodernpain on June 24, 2022, 05:36:03 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7YmXdFJ/IMG-0038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7YmXdFJ)(https://i.ibb.co/MkPFMzd/IMG-0039.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MkPFMzd)

Sure grip trucks, soft bones bearings, 56mm Rough Riders. I had a lot of fun cruising my neighborhood this evening.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 24, 2022, 05:37:54 PM

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I don’t recall if my polarizer had the bbs sticker or not. Also I DO know that they printed the graphics upside down.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJ0smdFN/F5-FB7193-3495-4932-A1-B7-267730728-E08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKVwBpJn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRMvbqCH/C6-C8-BC83-935-C-4-C67-91-D6-3617-C6-F0-FC13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSqT176R)
Does that make it a decentralizer?
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this is a ps stix. there was the inital run, then the second run was printed backwards.
Thanks for the knowledge. I guess ps wood being soggy is kind of a plus for these.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 25, 2022, 01:37:07 AM
Given the choice I think I'd prefer a flatter BBS to the more convex PS stix. Assuming the flex is the same.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 25, 2022, 04:44:20 AM
Given the choice I think I'd prefer a flatter BBS to the more convex PS stix. Assuming the flex is the same.

Having a BBS, I think I would agree. Love the shape/flex/ feel of mine. Can't wait to set it up.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 26, 2022, 09:46:42 AM
Got the BBS set up today.

Completely different ride than the reversed logo batch. Sooooo flat for at least 4 1/2 inches of the deck, unlike about 2 inches of the previous batch.

I got so used to the hard convex of the previous that this one feels so much more "cruisey," whereas the convex you had to re-learn foot weight much more.

(https://i.ibb.co/ngMCkVf/IMG-3056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMCkVf)(https://i.ibb.co/G2FgFmD/IMG-3055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G2FgFmD)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 26, 2022, 10:01:07 AM
Got the BBS set up today.

Completely different ride than the reversed logo batch. Sooooo flat for at least 4 1/2 inches of the deck, unlike about 2 inches of the previous batch.

I got so used to the hard convex of the previous that this one feels so much more "cruisey," whereas the convex you had to re-learn foot weight much more.

(https://i.ibb.co/ngMCkVf/IMG-3056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMCkVf)(https://i.ibb.co/G2FgFmD/IMG-3055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G2FgFmD)

Nice. I just got my wood screws, about to set my BBS up now. Wish me luck
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 26, 2022, 10:44:20 AM
What’s the specs on that set up George?

WB looks nice n stretched.. 19.5”?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 26, 2022, 11:33:35 AM
What’s the specs on that set up George?

WB looks nice n stretched.. 19.5”?

I run 19 1/4" WB

ACS 430 trucks
rough riders
bones swiss
powerdyne 78A double barrel
wood screwed and tattooed



Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 26, 2022, 12:14:03 PM
Reallyyy wish I had a reversed batch PS Stix whip. I’d love a more dramatic shape.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 26, 2022, 06:05:06 PM
Got the BBS set up today.

Completely different ride than the reversed logo batch. Sooooo flat for at least 4 1/2 inches of the deck, unlike about 2 inches of the previous batch.

I got so used to the hard convex of the previous that this one feels so much more "cruisey," whereas the convex you had to re-learn foot weight much more.

(https://i.ibb.co/ngMCkVf/IMG-3056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMCkVf)(https://i.ibb.co/G2FgFmD/IMG-3055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G2FgFmD)
how does it compare to the hewitt?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Powdered Toast Man! on June 26, 2022, 07:15:06 PM
i'm out here in alaska working a seasonal job and had the luck to cop the trucks and the polarizer last week! can't wait to return home and set it up, haven't this excited for a toy in a while!
i've seen posts of hewitt and other sd people on it but
if any of you pals here would please post a vid of yourselves riding your polarizer that would be oh so neat.
will gnar when i'm able to gnar.
my nipples are lactating of excitement ngl
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 27, 2022, 05:34:16 AM
Been loving this little guy, rips super hard. I totally ate shit on my regular board after riding this thing around for a while. Adjusting these little trucks is driving me nuts, but i think im getting it honed in alright.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 27, 2022, 11:05:05 AM
FYI for anyone switching over to the BBS boards and taking their old polarizer set up with them:

WATCH OUT FOR WHEEL BITE.

My setup on the super convex board let me take some close calls, this next flatter board does not.
Took a hard FS carve on a steep bank that I do all the time and that shit bit hard.

Got some cool pink KT tape from my partner, though, so it's cool.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 27, 2022, 11:07:48 AM
FYI for anyone switching over to the BBS boards and taking their old polarizer set up with them:

WATCH OUT FOR WHEEL BITE.

My setup on the super convex board let me take some close calls, this next flatter board does not.
Took a hard FS carve on a steep bank that I do all the time and that shit bit hard.

Got some cool pink KT tape from my partner, though, so it's cool.

Considering using a dremel and making some wheel wells on mine. i bit once pretty good, was able to hop off though.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 27, 2022, 11:23:52 AM
Anyone with PS stix looking to sell/trade please hit me up, thank you!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Giza Butler on June 28, 2022, 02:13:01 AM
Taking a very long time but I'm almost ready with both the Hewitt and a spoof wooden one I've made by myself with cut rollerblade trucks.

Are the Ruff Riders the best wheels to use? I have found out that the small trucks are very tiny and conical wheels touch the insides.

Thanks
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 28, 2022, 03:42:07 AM
FYI for anyone switching over to the BBS boards and taking their old polarizer set up with them:

WATCH OUT FOR WHEEL BITE.

My setup on the super convex board let me take some close calls, this next flatter board does not.
Took a hard FS carve on a steep bank that I do all the time and that shit bit hard.

Why would that be? I'd have though the flatter deck would be less likely to get wheel bite. Maybe you're getting more leverage, so the trucks are turning more.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 28, 2022, 04:35:55 AM
Taking a very long time but I'm almost ready with both the Hewitt and a spoof wooden one I've made by myself with cut rollerblade trucks.

Are the Ruff Riders the best wheels to use? I have found out that the small trucks are very tiny and conical wheels touch the insides.

Thanks

I had to use like 3-4 washers on the inside of the axle to push the rough riders out far enough so they wouldnt rub.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Giza Butler on June 28, 2022, 04:50:12 AM
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Taking a very long time but I'm almost ready with both the Hewitt and a spoof wooden one I've made by myself with cut rollerblade trucks.

Are the Ruff Riders the best wheels to use? I have found out that the small trucks are very tiny and conical wheels touch the insides.

Thanks
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Ah shit, I'm having the same problem, maybe something shaped like Spitfire Tablets?

I had to use like 3-4 washers on the inside of the axle to push the rough riders out far enough so they wouldnt rub.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 28, 2022, 07:56:32 AM
Taking a very long time but I'm almost ready with both the Hewitt and a spoof wooden one I've made by myself with cut rollerblade trucks.

Are the Ruff Riders the best wheels to use? I have found out that the small trucks are very tiny and conical wheels touch the insides.

Thanks
blender himself uses rough riders. 3 washers on the inside for the 56mm ones.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on June 28, 2022, 08:02:59 AM
Rough Riders for sure. Powerdyne hop up kit bushings. I’ve never had much wheelbite with my Watson made HW polarizer. Got a few burns but haven’t been tossed and I’ve ridden that thing hard for years
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 28, 2022, 08:38:49 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/8Y1B3b3/dospol.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Y1B3b3)

Went ahead and re-set up the PS Stix deck (red wheels), since the wheelbite was legit on the BBS (green wheels).

Put my JOGGER Sure Grip roller skate trucks on the BBS, since the truck has about 3/8" more axle height than the
ACS trucks. Switched over the Powerdyne 82A bottom barrels on all trucks, keeping the 78A top barrels.

The BBS now doesn't wheel bite on frontside turns, but feels completely different than the OG deck. I think I prefer
the OG, it's lower to the ground and can turn super sharp in a pinch.

But my foot does like the flat of the BBS, it's easier on the arches for sure.

Ultimately, I think I like the PS Stix better. It's more unique and once you get accustomed to the convex, it feels much more
surfy.

I used to give so many friends shit for being so meticulous about their setups and which woodshops their decks came from, and now I understand.





Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 28, 2022, 09:22:15 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/8Y1B3b3/dospol.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Y1B3b3)

Went ahead and re-set up the PS Stix deck (red wheels), since the wheelbite was legit on the BBS (green wheels).

Put my JOGGER Sure Grip roller skate trucks on the BBS, since the truck has about 3/8" more axle height than the
ACS trucks. Switched over the Powerdyne 82A bottom barrels on all trucks, keeping the 78A top barrels.

The BBS now doesn't wheel bite on frontside turns, but feels completely different than the OG deck. I think I prefer
the OG, it's lower to the ground and can turn super sharp in a pinch.

But my foot does like the flat of the BBS, it's easier on the arches for sure.

Ultimately, I think I like the PS Stix better. It's more unique and once you get accustomed to the convex, it feels much more
surfy.

I used to give so many friends shit for being so meticulous about their setups and which woodshops their decks came from, and now I understand.

I've never ridden a PS polarizer, but i am in love with the shape/flex/feel of my BBS. I dont think i would like a more exaggerated shape but who knows? I'm quite happy with my purchase however. I cant decide whether you throw some stickers on the bottom and have my lady use her art skills and paint pens on the grip, or just to leave it all clean and blank. I gripped the whole top with jessup, no cutouts or bolt holes since i used wood screws.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 28, 2022, 03:53:41 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/8Y1B3b3/dospol.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Y1B3b3)

Went ahead and re-set up the PS Stix deck (red wheels), since the wheelbite was legit on the BBS (green wheels).

Put my JOGGER Sure Grip roller skate trucks on the BBS, since the truck has about 3/8" more axle height than the
ACS trucks. Switched over the Powerdyne 82A bottom barrels on all trucks, keeping the 78A top barrels.

The BBS now doesn't wheel bite on frontside turns, but feels completely different than the OG deck. I think I prefer
the OG, it's lower to the ground and can turn super sharp in a pinch.

But my foot does like the flat of the BBS, it's easier on the arches for sure.

Ultimately, I think I like the PS Stix better. It's more unique and once you get accustomed to the convex, it feels much more
surfy.

I used to give so many friends shit for being so meticulous about their setups and which woodshops their decks came from, and now I understand.
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I've never ridden a PS polarizer, but i am in love with the shape/flex/feel of my BBS. I dont think i would like a more exaggerated shape but who knows? I'm quite happy with my purchase however. I cant decide whether you throw some stickers on the bottom and have my lady use her art skills and paint pens on the grip, or just to leave it all clean and blank. I gripped the whole top with jessup, no cutouts or bolt holes since i used wood screws.
i feel like a basic grip job is breaking some unspoken polarizer rule!
adore george’s center stripe
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 28, 2022, 06:39:48 PM
Got some BONT 78a bushings, cone tops barrel bottoms. Night and day over the Indy bushings. Stack height is the same as the stock sure grip bushings so the geometry is intact and the ride is super soft and surfy. Gotta grab some rough riders and take it to the next level
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 28, 2022, 06:53:16 PM
Well then…Scroll to the 5th for relevance.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfR6VjnM4Mo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
🤯
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 29, 2022, 01:56:49 AM
Looks to be a misprinted PS Stix version. The "wrong" way around.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 29, 2022, 03:02:38 AM
i feel like a basic grip job is breaking some unspoken polarizer rule!
adore george’s center stripe

Pfft on the rules. Have fun, make it your own.

The stripes are a callback to the "stringer" in surfboards.

The damn polarizer is shaped like a pig model for crying out loud!

(https://i.ibb.co/DRdgRFP/DW.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DRdgRFP)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 29, 2022, 06:55:33 AM
Well then…Scroll to the 5th for relevance.
🤯
just because you can, doesn't mean you should!

some kid at the skatepark was fascinated with my polarizer and asked to take a ride. he immediately tried to do a shuvit and i scolded him and took it back lol
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on June 29, 2022, 08:28:57 AM
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Well then…Scroll to the 5th for relevance.
🤯
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just because you can, doesn't mean you should!

some kid at the skatepark was fascinated with my polarizer and asked to take a ride. he immediately tried to do a shuvit and i scolded him and took it back lol

Haha I’ve done the same, but once a kid rolled into a huge quarter and kick flipped mine and I ain’t frontin on that. Was straight up amazing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: handsclapanin on June 30, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vjsvIUml.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/uAFDwQOl.jpg?1)

Here's mine. I've had this a few years. A friend of mine has like 12 of them and hooked me up with an old deck of his. I had to get all the parts though. The best part, imo, was going to the rollerskate shop and buying an old skate. Then ripping the skate off the boot and sawing it up to make the trucks. That experience was everything. Riding it is fun. Its fast and tippy. Dangerous but safe. I really just use it occasionally as a cruiser. It's also the perfect size to put under this piece of metal I carry around when I need to make an up curb ramp. That's honestly its main use.  ;D
18.6" axle to axle WB.
56 rough riders. 3 washers on the inside. If you get 58s or bigger, you need to shave the inside of the wheel to avoid rub.
(https://i.imgur.com/wai3bMRl.jpg?1)
Polarizer rules state wood screws only (actually sheet metal). But I was too rough with mine, skating a rock spot. I tore off my back truck completely. So I had to drill through and added these 2 regular bolts, one on each side. Hid them with a grip scrap on top though.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on June 30, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vjsvIUml.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/uAFDwQOl.jpg?1)

Here's mine. I've had this a few years. A friend of mine has like 12 of them and hooked me up with an old deck of his. I had to get all the parts though. The best part, imo, was going to the rollerskate shop and buying an old skate. Then ripping the skate off the boot and sawing it up to make the trucks. That experience was everything. Riding it is fun. Its fast and tippy. Dangerous but safe. I really just use it occasionally as a cruiser. It's also the perfect size to put under this piece of metal I carry around when I need to make an up curb ramp. That's honestly its main use.  ;D
18.6" axle to axle WB.
56 rough riders. 3 washers on the inside. If you get 58s or bigger, you need to shave the inside of the wheel to avoid rub.
(https://i.imgur.com/wai3bMRl.jpg?1)
Polarizer rules state wood screws only (actually sheet metal). But I was too rough with mine, skating a rock spot. I tore off my back truck completely. So I had to drill through and added these 2 regular bolts, one on each side. Hid them with a grip scrap on top though.
love the stain color!

tell your friend to post on here!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on July 01, 2022, 05:04:45 AM
How the heck does your mate have 12?  I had to check in with Blender a millllion times over a bunch of years before I could nab one.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: handsclapanin on July 01, 2022, 08:24:41 AM
How the heck does your mate have 12?  I had to check in with Blender a millllion times over a bunch of years before I could nab one.
My friend and others like him are the reason no one has been able to get their hands on these until recently. He's in Blenders circle so to speak. These boards have gone through a lot of little tweaks and different manufacturers, always in small batches. So the circle gobbles them up before they ever get out to the public.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 01, 2022, 05:26:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vjsvIUml.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/uAFDwQOl.jpg?1)

Here's mine. I've had this a few years. A friend of mine has like 12 of them and hooked me up with an old deck of his. I had to get all the parts though. The best part, imo, was going to the rollerskate shop and buying an old skate. Then ripping the skate off the boot and sawing it up to make the trucks. That experience was everything. Riding it is fun. Its fast and tippy. Dangerous but safe. I really just use it occasionally as a cruiser. It's also the perfect size to put under this piece of metal I carry around when I need to make an up curb ramp. That's honestly its main use.  ;D
18.6" axle to axle WB.
56 rough riders. 3 washers on the inside. If you get 58s or bigger, you need to shave the inside of the wheel to avoid rub.
(https://i.imgur.com/wai3bMRl.jpg?1)
Polarizer rules state wood screws only (actually sheet metal). But I was too rough with mine, skating a rock spot. I tore off my back truck completely. So I had to drill through and added these 2 regular bolts, one on each side. Hid them with a grip scrap on top though.
That’s beautiful.
@radcunt is right. It was nearly impossible to get them 5/6 years ago. I know someone that kept hitting Neil up for almost 6 years before Neil gave him a used one. Although to be fair, getting one he rode is pretty rad.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style board
Post by: radcunt on July 01, 2022, 08:34:40 PM
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How the heck does your mate have 12?  I had to check in with Blender a millllion times over a bunch of years before I could nab one.
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My friend and others like him are the reason no one has been able to get their hands on these until recently. He's in Blenders circle so to speak. These boards have gone through a lot of little tweaks and different manufacturers, always in small batches. So the circle gobbles them up before they ever get out to the public.

Thats what I figured. Was pretty sick deslimg with Neil directly, he seems like a good dude. I got a Watson one and the vert board in 2018, love it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 11, 2022, 02:10:32 AM

Heated Wheel new polarizers have dropped.

go get 'em if ya want 'em.


Curious as to whether or not they are BBS or PS Stix. Will report back when known.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 11, 2022, 03:40:33 AM
Nice. No mention of formica, so I'd bet on BBS.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on July 11, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Those new graphics are pretty cool. I think i still wouldve ended up getting the plain black if i waited though. That one with the car is sick.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on July 11, 2022, 10:54:37 PM
use 496132 for 15% off your order. one time use. cheers boys.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on July 12, 2022, 07:38:56 AM
use 496132 for 15% off your order. one time use. cheers boys.

you son of a bitch. making me want to snag another and keep it on ice. never come to the shoes and gear section if you're trying to save money.

thanks though <3
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on July 12, 2022, 11:56:56 AM
anyone on here run super juice minis instead of rough riders? Considering it due to the asymmetrical shape of the former, thinking there might be less truck bite.

Thanks to everyone who has posted in they thread so far, been a real treasure trove.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 12, 2022, 12:37:28 PM
anyone on here run super juice minis instead of rough riders? Considering it due to the asymmetrical shape of the former, thinking there might be less truck bite.

Thanks to everyone who has posted in they thread so far, been a real treasure trove.
I am. 3 washers inside or you get hanger bite. Basically the same as the rough riders.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on July 12, 2022, 12:40:07 PM
Gotcha, thanks!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 13, 2022, 06:41:58 PM
No problem.
Finally got around to mounting the trucks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NQrPk6p/8217-EC48-BA8-F-4862-91-B0-85516-CA899-EE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8F506Qb)
Still need to spin down some bushing and dig through my grip scraps. We’ve got a date for Friday night.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 13, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
Any of y’all have big feet?  I wear US 13’s, just wondering if I’m dreaming thinking I’d fit on a 6 inch board?

Also is there a big difference in your minds in terms of the experience riding a homebrew polarizer made from an old board vs the Neil made models?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 14, 2022, 04:22:28 AM
Any of y’all have big feet?  I wear US 13’s, just wondering if I’m dreaming thinking I’d fit on a 6 inch board?

Also is there a big difference in your minds in terms of the experience riding a homebrew polarizer made from an old board vs the Neil made models?

i rock a 13 footpad as well.

Your arches will feel some change, as you will probably  start riding like a "normal skateboard." But your feet will move naturally to a more comfortable position. When I just cruise down the street, my front foot tends to start pointing to about 1 to 2 o'clock and the back foot keeps to about 3 o'clock. When I'm skating a park, the feet tend to back to "normal" but with a little variation.

 (https://i.ibb.co/CMF5RSj/B4-FC0-E23-522-A-4-DFC-B094-1-D735-BBA3-B92.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMF5RSj)

You can totally ride one, it's just a matter of re-adjusting from your muscle memory of more traditional boards. Your feet will adjust, and it will be rad.

Heated Wheel boards are really about the shape to me, at the end of the day. The board shape as of now is based  upon the Dale Velzy/Hap Jacobs "Pig" model surfboard. The most striking feature is the the wide point is behind the middle of the board, just like a Pig. Your front foot will be on the thinnest part of the board, and the widest point will be under your back foot. That will take a little getting used to as well.

There is also the point of board manufacture and how much concave/convex is on the deck. That will be a mitigating factor on board feel on the Heated Wheel board.

A homebrew board, you can make however you damn want. Pick a mellow concave, a deep concave, whatever shape, etc. Just try to aim for a larger wheelbase and turn that board upside down, and you'll get a groove going on.

If you've never done it, do it. I've literally just rode Polarizers since January, eschewing my other boards, and for good reason. It's the feeling I've been trying to replicate for years with Zip Zingers and other cruisers. It's new, but old. It's the heart of the thing we love.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on July 14, 2022, 11:11:23 AM
I guess now is as good a time as any to ask the age-old question:

Anyone got a link to When the Grunion Run?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 14, 2022, 11:27:29 AM
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Any of y’all have big feet?  I wear US 13’s, just wondering if I’m dreaming thinking I’d fit on a 6 inch board?

Also is there a big difference in your minds in terms of the experience riding a homebrew polarizer made from an old board vs the Neil made models?
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i rock a 13 footpad as well.

Your arches will feel some change, as you will probably  start riding like a "normal skateboard." But your feet will move naturally to a more comfortable position. When I just cruise down the street, my front foot tends to start pointing to about 1 to 2 o'clock and the back foot keeps to about 3 o'clock. When I'm skating a park, the feet tend to back to "normal" but with a little variation.

 (https://i.ibb.co/CMF5RSj/B4-FC0-E23-522-A-4-DFC-B094-1-D735-BBA3-B92.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMF5RSj)

You can totally ride one, it's just a matter of re-adjusting from your muscle memory of more traditional boards. Your feet will adjust, and it will be rad.

Heated Wheel boards are really about the shape to me, at the end of the day. The board shape as of now is based  upon the Dale Velzy/Hap Jacobs "Pig" model surfboard. The most striking feature is the the wide point is behind the middle of the board, just like a Pig. Your front foot will be on the thinnest part of the board, and the widest point will be under your back foot. That will take a little getting used to as well.

There is also the point of board manufacture and how much concave/convex is on the deck. That will be a mitigating factor on board feel on the Heated Wheel board.

A homebrew board, you can make however you damn want. Pick a mellow concave, a deep concave, whatever shape, etc. Just try to aim for a larger wheelbase and turn that board upside down, and you'll get a groove going on.

If you've never done it, do it. I've literally just rode Polarizers since January, eschewing my other boards, and for good reason. It's the feeling I've been trying to replicate for years with Zip Zingers and other cruisers. It's new, but old. It's the heart of the thing we love.

Lovely response, thank you.  It’s now solidly on my to-do list.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 15, 2022, 02:10:43 AM
No problem.
Finally got around to mounting the trucks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NQrPk6p/8217-EC48-BA8-F-4862-91-B0-85516-CA899-EE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8F506Qb)
Still need to spin down some bushing and dig through my grip scraps. We’ve got a date for Friday night.

One of the ones with the misspressed logo. You're not tempted to run it twrong way round with the wider part at the front?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 15, 2022, 07:28:14 PM
@fernando the skater no. My ocd got the best of me and I took some rubbing alcohol on a rag and removed the bottom graphic(kept the top though).
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CxqZF1t/9-B96-F920-0-E8-A-4-B4-E-83-D0-DABD78-E2-CB22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJbyjtQd)
Gripped and good to go for our date.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbZL9F4T/1298-B044-3096-41-FC-8123-B12126340-E45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/68jtsM5D)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 16, 2022, 03:44:45 PM
Has anyone done more of a square tail and nose design?  For some reason I keeping thinking that would look really sick
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 16, 2022, 04:59:27 PM
I get the hype now. These are fun.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qM7hWbGS/93-BC1434-DC02-42-D5-A101-39-C21-A093-D0-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pygLFB4J)
No the trucks aren’t messed up, just floppy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXT5bLgm/A53-CFDA7-F38-E-47-B6-B3-A2-EBFE72-EC9203.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G84bBBjf)
I did sort of. Based off the Cinex shape but with a slightly eggish taper.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 16, 2022, 05:31:58 PM
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I get the hype now. These are fun.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qM7hWbGS/93-BC1434-DC02-42-D5-A101-39-C21-A093-D0-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pygLFB4J)
No the trucks aren’t messed up, just floppy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXT5bLgm/A53-CFDA7-F38-E-47-B6-B3-A2-EBFE72-EC9203.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G84bBBjf)
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I did sort of. Based off the Cinex shape but with a slightly eggish taper.

Nice, yeah, the side closer to your Spicolli’s is pretty close to what I have in mind
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: tom on July 17, 2022, 10:10:15 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/m8wy7V9/958680-D7-77-DD-4-FE4-B24-B-A5-B6-C5-B2-A4-AE.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDSFkPG/08-E357-C4-1-AEB-48-B3-83-F3-1-C2-C724614-E7.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYYNh4c/2-D79-E50-C-54-F0-4-AEB-B81-F-B47-FFB4-A9-C69.jpg)

I got the cosmos sparkle idea from seeing @lilboosie painting his trucks in the setup thread. It’s hard to take a good picture of it though. ACE 11’s looked like how 215’s look on a regular board, so I bit the bullet and got some of the Suregrip roller skate trucks. Mark Gonzales Spitfire cruiser wheels from 2014. I brought it out on the session last night and it was a hot ticket item with everyone. Lots of 360 spins and attempted hang 10 nose manuals
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 17, 2022, 06:49:24 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/m8wy7V9/958680-D7-77-DD-4-FE4-B24-B-A5-B6-C5-B2-A4-AE.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDSFkPG/08-E357-C4-1-AEB-48-B3-83-F3-1-C2-C724614-E7.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYYNh4c/2-D79-E50-C-54-F0-4-AEB-B81-F-B47-FFB4-A9-C69.jpg)

I got the cosmos sparkle idea from seeing @lilboosie painting his trucks in the setup thread. It’s hard to take a good picture of it though. ACE 11’s looked like how 215’s look on a regular board, so I bit the bullet and got some of the Suregrip roller skate trucks. Mark Gonzales Spitfire cruiser wheels from 2014. I brought it out on the session last night and it was a hot ticket item with everyone. Lots of 360 spins and attempted hang 10 nose manuals

Your grip job is 10/10.  The yellow and pink + sparkle unlocked some deep buried nostalgia I’d completely forgotten.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: lilboosie on July 18, 2022, 10:14:59 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/m8wy7V9/958680-D7-77-DD-4-FE4-B24-B-A5-B6-C5-B2-A4-AE.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDSFkPG/08-E357-C4-1-AEB-48-B3-83-F3-1-C2-C724614-E7.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYYNh4c/2-D79-E50-C-54-F0-4-AEB-B81-F-B47-FFB4-A9-C69.jpg)

I got the cosmos sparkle idea from seeing @lilboosie painting his trucks in the setup thread. It’s hard to take a good picture of it though. ACE 11’s looked like how 215’s look on a regular board, so I bit the bullet and got some of the Suregrip roller skate trucks. Mark Gonzales Spitfire cruiser wheels from 2014. I brought it out on the session last night and it was a hot ticket item with everyone. Lots of 360 spins and attempted hang 10 nose manuals

this is so sick!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on July 18, 2022, 08:28:32 PM
I’d love to buy a sheet of grip tape like that.  I appreciate your restraint in not putting the cosmos pattern all over the entire board.  So tasteful
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 19, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
I just got my SIRE Polarizer in, it's officially BBS stock. Rocking a big flat mid. It's pretty.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on July 19, 2022, 01:18:13 PM
I just got my SIRE Polarizer in, it's officially BBS stock. Rocking a big flat mid. It's pretty.

Love that graphic. I was very tempted but I needed to get the black one for the wheel/grip color combo I'm trying to rock. Please post pics once it is ready to roll!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: chat noir on July 19, 2022, 03:08:33 PM
Just picked up a sire. I'm going to mount the sure grips with the pro wood screws. Do I need to drill pilot holes?

Also, wheelbase science... It's so foreign to me. What are you guys doing for your rigs? Measuring axle to axle?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 19, 2022, 04:50:26 PM
Just picked up a sire. I'm going to mount the sure grips with the pro wood screws. Do I need to drill pilot holes?

Also, wheelbase science... It's so foreign to me. What are you guys doing for your rigs? Measuring axle to axle?

axle to axle is the measurement we use for WB.

18-20 inches is usually the parameters. I do 19 1/4 on my polarizers, and i love it.

I use a smaller drill bit to prep the screws. FYI, it's more common to use sheet metal screws than traditional woods screws.
Sheet metal screw #10 5/8. the tips might come through the top a bit.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: chat noir on July 19, 2022, 05:24:34 PM
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Just picked up a sire. I'm going to mount the sure grips with the pro wood screws. Do I need to drill pilot holes?

Also, wheelbase science... It's so foreign to me. What are you guys doing for your rigs? Measuring axle to axle?
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axle to axle is the measurement we use for WB.

18-20 inches is usually the parameters. I do 19 1/4 on my polarizers, and i love it.

I use a smaller drill bit to prep the screws. FYI, it's more common to use sheet metal screws than traditional woods screws.
Sheet metal screw #10 5/8. the tips might come through the top a bit.

Thanks, George. Any tips on centering/placing the sure grips before drilling? I am pretty nervous about them not being aligned.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 19, 2022, 05:54:04 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/m8wy7V9/958680-D7-77-DD-4-FE4-B24-B-A5-B6-C5-B2-A4-AE.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HDSFkPG/08-E357-C4-1-AEB-48-B3-83-F3-1-C2-C724614-E7.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYYNh4c/2-D79-E50-C-54-F0-4-AEB-B81-F-B47-FFB4-A9-C69.jpg)

I got the cosmos sparkle idea from seeing @lilboosie painting his trucks in the setup thread. It’s hard to take a good picture of it though. ACE 11’s looked like how 215’s look on a regular board, so I bit the bullet and got some of the Suregrip roller skate trucks. Mark Gonzales Spitfire cruiser wheels from 2014. I brought it out on the session last night and it was a hot ticket item with everyone. Lots of 360 spins and attempted hang 10 nose manuals
Beautiful.
I think Shake Junt did some metal flake grip(only in green flake though) @Sketch Hitchcock.
@George Vallore if I ever got one with a graphic it’s definitely be the Sire. Love that one.
@chat noir definitely drill pilot holes. If not there’s a chance(albeit small) that they may split later if not.
Here’s a screen grab of the best advice for centering them:
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5BfpwYY/E269416-B-E327-4-AD8-A00-C-8-DD3-D067-A0-D0.png) (https://postimg.cc/YL0jNXxM)
For wb I did what Blender had his set at. 3 1/2” nose/tail.
@Ronnie Rodriguez pics when you can please.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 20, 2022, 04:05:11 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5BfpwYY/E269416-B-E327-4-AD8-A00-C-8-DD3-D067-A0-D0.png) (https://postimg.cc/YL0jNXxM)
For wb I did what Blender had his set at. 3 1/2” nose/tail.
@Ronnie Rodriguez pics when you can please.

fantastic advice! for cutting out the sure grip truck template, go to "moonpatrolpolarizers" on Instagram, scroll down to the video he has of how to make the sure grip truck template, remember the pivot side holes are a little closer...

the axle is approximately 7/8" lower than the pivot side holes (top holes) so you can measure down on the paper, get a small t-square, and mark on your template where your axle line is going to be. I've found it easier step-wise to have that line to get more precise with the WB.

3 1/2" nose/tail ala Blender is going to give you about a little under a 19" WB. I do 3" give or take, and get 19 1/4".

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 20, 2022, 06:40:50 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Rck2qNc/CD9-C2-CE6-A8-AE-444-B-962-F-A2969-FC1-EF5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/89LMHb9)
(https://i.ibb.co/0Ggr72R/41386-EB8-890-A-488-F-A4-FD-47-EA3-B60-DC59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDSzr3L)

Just a hair under 19.5 WB axel to axel.
Eat well my friends.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: chat noir on July 20, 2022, 09:54:29 AM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/L5BfpwYY/E269416-B-E327-4-AD8-A00-C-8-DD3-D067-A0-D0.png) (https://postimg.cc/YL0jNXxM)
For wb I did what Blender had his set at. 3 1/2” nose/tail.
@Ronnie Rodriguez pics when you can please.
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fantastic advice! for cutting out the sure grip truck template, go to "moonpatrolpolarizers" on Instagram, scroll down to the video he has of how to make the sure grip truck template, remember the pivot side holes are a little closer...

the axle is approximately 7/8" lower than the pivot side holes (top holes) so you can measure down on the paper, get a small t-square, and mark on your template where your axle line is going to be. I've found it easier step-wise to have that line to get more precise with the WB.

3 1/2" nose/tail ala Blender is going to give you about a little under a 19" WB. I do 3" give or take, and get 19 1/4".

3 1/2" nose/tail mean the axle is 3 1/2" from the nose/tail? Thanks George and Plan9. Looking for center...
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on July 20, 2022, 10:24:40 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Rck2qNc/CD9-C2-CE6-A8-AE-444-B-962-F-A2969-FC1-EF5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/89LMHb9)
(https://i.ibb.co/0Ggr72R/41386-EB8-890-A-488-F-A4-FD-47-EA3-B60-DC59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDSzr3L)

Just a hair under 19.5 WB axel to axel.
Eat well my friends.

Damn, I'm not one for crazy grip, my polarizer is just plain gripped, but this is sick. bonus points for the "eat well". Well done good sir, well done, you earned this gnar and then some.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 20, 2022, 02:39:50 PM
https://youtu.be/F0452ojRa-M
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 20, 2022, 05:21:50 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Rck2qNc/CD9-C2-CE6-A8-AE-444-B-962-F-A2969-FC1-EF5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/89LMHb9)
(https://i.ibb.co/0Ggr72R/41386-EB8-890-A-488-F-A4-FD-47-EA3-B60-DC59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDSzr3L)

Just a hair under 19.5 WB axel to axel.
Eat well my friends.
Beautiful and love the ‘eat well’.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 20, 2022, 05:24:07 PM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/L5BfpwYY/E269416-B-E327-4-AD8-A00-C-8-DD3-D067-A0-D0.png) (https://postimg.cc/YL0jNXxM)
For wb I did what Blender had his set at. 3 1/2” nose/tail.
@Ronnie Rodriguez pics when you can please.
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fantastic advice! for cutting out the sure grip truck template, go to "moonpatrolpolarizers" on Instagram, scroll down to the video he has of how to make the sure grip truck template, remember the pivot side holes are a little closer...

the axle is approximately 7/8" lower than the pivot side holes (top holes) so you can measure down on the paper, get a small t-square, and mark on your template where your axle line is going to be. I've found it easier step-wise to have that line to get more precise with the WB.

3 1/2" nose/tail ala Blender is going to give you about a little under a 19" WB. I do 3" give or take, and get 19 1/4".
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3 1/2" nose/tail mean the axle is 3 1/2" from the nose/tail? Thanks George and Plan9. Looking for center...
The one I got measurements from was Neil’s old rider and here’s what Dylan showed me when I asked for nose/tail length:
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMWmG99Z/6-D9-BC0-F3-06-E3-4-E98-A6-F8-D0-C383826184.png) (https://postimg.cc/9zXSg6Dt)
Tails same just didn’t want to flood you with pics.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: chat noir on July 20, 2022, 09:58:11 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7zqCY4X/IMG-1549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZkwnBm)
(https://i.ibb.co/wBM9L2G/IMG-1551.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fq4hST6)

Thanks, George and Plan9. I think my WB is 20 3/4"

Holy shit these things are fun.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 21, 2022, 03:24:39 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/VDVjPKB/IMG-3275.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VDVjPKB)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: kneesandbones on July 24, 2022, 07:45:07 PM
Edit: Damn, I have no clue how to post images, 2nd and last try here...

Made a few of my own over the years but much happier with the real deal.  56mm Bones Rough Riders, Swiss 6 and just bought the hardware and trucks they were selling with Bones Soft bushings.

I do wish it had more flex though.  The flex on the longer G&S Surf Skate he spec'd is amazing.  Trucks on my Polarizer are just before nose/tail dips.

(https://i.ibb.co/6bRbQ5K/IMG-1305.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6bRbQ5K)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 25, 2022, 05:33:16 AM
The G&S surf skates have bowtuff top and bottom. It's used in archery bows, and gives it that springy flex. More expensive though.

https://youtu.be/1VRe-I00OEI
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on July 25, 2022, 03:11:54 PM
i really wish i could buy just the deck of a g&s surfskate...

anyone have experience with them? go long or short?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on July 25, 2022, 05:10:36 PM
The first polarizers made at Watson had fiberglass layers in them but then Watson closed then got bought by Swank

My friend got one of the first ones made that had Jim's notes glassed in along the stringer kinda like a custom surfboard

I was also there the day Neil proclaimed that Roughriders were the best wheel you could get (at the time) for polarizers. He said he tried them all and I believe him


Also I see a lot of grip tape in this thread
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: kneesandbones on July 25, 2022, 06:42:54 PM
The G&S surf skates have bowtuff top and bottom. It's used in archery bows, and gives it that springy flex. More expensive though.

I was not aware of that ! Good information.

i really wish i could buy just the deck of a g&s surfskate...

anyone have experience with them? go long or short?

I bought the long one about 2 years back, I like it...carving with the flex is amazing. I recently switched out the stock red wheels with Rough Riders and like it better now.   I had asked Neil if it rode like one of his Heated Wheel decks and he responded:

"Stoked you got a surf skate, all the small boards, ride similar, depending on the trucks and the wheel bases and bushings and all that shit, but you 28 is a good board it’s a nice nice flowing board the 25”has as a little quicker reaction"

I had emailed G&S about SurfSkate deck only and here is the response:

"No we don’t. We have a very specific Truck and Wheel that we put them together with. It won’t take any other truck.
Sorry, but it wouldn’t be a surfskate if it had any other components.

Thank you for the email,

Best,

Debbie Gordon"

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on July 25, 2022, 11:38:52 PM
The first polarizers made at Watson had fiberglass layers in them but then Watson closed then got bought by Swank

My friend got one of the first ones made that had Jim's notes glassed in along the stringer kinda like a custom surfboard

I was also there the day Neil proclaimed that Roughriders were the best wheel you could get (at the time) for polarizers. He said he tried them all and I believe him


Also I see a lot of grip tape in this thread
would love to see a photo!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 26, 2022, 02:40:11 AM
The Heated Wheel did a small run of G&S fibreflex style decks a couple of years ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/5r4yTBv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1IJMAjj.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 26, 2022, 03:40:37 AM

Also I see a lot of grip tape in this thread

ok fine, lemme fix:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgb8SphgEYW/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgb8SphgEYW/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 28, 2022, 06:40:30 AM
FYI if you're interested in a SLIGHTLY larger axle without having to pay for some Indy chop-downs, HUCK skate supply
is now making a 2.5" hanger that ends up being 5.25"

(https://i.ibb.co/XbX4W2t/Screen-Shot-2022-07-28-at-9-38-23-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/XbX4W2t)

They say they work with 10 degree Sure Grip plates, so I think they'll work with the peanut plate...

I know it goes against some of the "ethos" but it's still technically a roller skate truck, and I'm gonna get some to see how the wider axle feels on one of my polarizers...

EDIT: Just got an email from Huck, and they fit perfectly and the kingpin is CLEARED with their hangers!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Landmine on July 28, 2022, 12:35:50 PM
Oh shit
(https://i.imgur.com/I17ORP3.jpg)

Just gotta grab some Rough Riders
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 28, 2022, 01:45:52 PM

and some fast bearings, my friend.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Landmine on July 28, 2022, 01:55:39 PM
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and some fast bearings, my friend.

Thankfully I have a bunch of Reds in a bin, and tbh I don't think I've ever noticed a difference in bearings outside of lifespan
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 28, 2022, 05:38:02 PM
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and some fast bearings, my friend.
Truth.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 29, 2022, 10:09:40 AM
Wanting to re drill my front truck a little bit closer, any of you all adjusted the wheelbase before? I’m actually just going to use the lower holes as the new top holes and drill new bottom ones. I assume that should be a non issue?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 29, 2022, 10:43:30 AM
Wanting to re drill my front truck a little bit closer, any of you all adjusted the wheelbase before? I’m actually just going to use the lower holes as the new top holes and drill new bottom ones. I assume that should be a non issue?

My first polarizer's front truck section looked like it was sprayed with bullet holes, so it's not an issue at all.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 29, 2022, 10:59:39 AM
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Wanting to re drill my front truck a little bit closer, any of you all adjusted the wheelbase before? I’m actually just going to use the lower holes as the new top holes and drill new bottom ones. I assume that should be a non issue?
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My first polarizer's front truck section looked like it was sprayed with bullet holes, so it's not an issue at all.

lol amazing.

I just switched it down to a 17 3/8” wheelbase and swapped out bones for magic cushions that my homie gave me (red in back, yellow in front) and the difference is absurd. Makes the Bones seem like some sort of cruel joke.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Landmine on July 29, 2022, 11:19:12 AM
Speaking of wheelbase, what's the general consensus (I bet there's not one lol)?  3 1/2" from tip to baseplate?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on July 30, 2022, 07:09:45 AM
Speaking of wheelbase, what's the general consensus (I bet there's not one lol)?  3 1/2" from tip to baseplate?

18-20 inches is what most will tell you.

I started off at 19 1/4" for shits and giggles, and liked it to learn.
Went down to 18 and quickly realized it's a different feel and like it better.

I was riding super soft bushing combos at larger wheelbases, and had to stiffen the bushings up to come down to 18.

Here's a pic of the rides:
(https://i.ibb.co/ZG30CXn/IMG-3432.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZG30CXn)

Left to Right:

*BBS w/ 20" WB  and 83A BONT barrel/cone on SG Jogger rollerskate plates (I live on a hilly road and it's my Pola-bomber)
*PS Stix with 18" WB and 82A Powerdyne barrel bottom and Bones Soft cone on SG Peanuts with rubber riser from
  moonpatrol.
*BBS with same WB and bushings as above but no rubber riser (Since BBS decks are much more flat, it got setup to
  basically A/B test the difference)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on July 30, 2022, 07:30:04 AM
The first polarizers made at Watson had fiberglass layers in them but then Watson closed then got bought by Swank

My friend got one of the first ones made that had Jim's notes glassed in along the stringer kinda like a custom surfboard

I was also there the day Neil proclaimed that Roughriders were the best wheel you could get (at the time) for polarizers. He said he tried them all and I believe him


Also I see a lot of grip tape in this thread

yeah, i've got one with the 'stringer' and his handwritten measurements.  Neil said it was from Watson, but dont think it has fibreglass.  Just 6 ply.  I'd post this stuff in the <7 inch thread years ago, think there's a pic in there, i'll have a look.

As for bushings, Neil mentioned Powerdyne bushngs for all but the back top, where he said a bones Med which is what i've ridden.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on July 31, 2022, 05:27:52 PM
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The first polarizers made at Watson had fiberglass layers in them but then Watson closed then got bought by Swank

My friend got one of the first ones made that had Jim's notes glassed in along the stringer kinda like a custom surfboard

I was also there the day Neil proclaimed that Roughriders were the best wheel you could get (at the time) for polarizers. He said he tried them all and I believe him


Also I see a lot of grip tape in this thread
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yeah, i've got one with the 'stringer' and his handwritten measurements.  Neil said it was from Watson, but dont think it has fibreglass.  Just 6 ply.  I'd post this stuff in the <7 inch thread years ago, think there's a pic in there, i'll have a look.

As for bushings, Neil mentioned Powerdyne bushngs for all but the back top, where he said a bones Med which is what i've ridden.

Now that I think about it they were calling it the "big boy" so maybe the fiberglass ones were made for just heavier skaters. I would assume that it cost too much to produce, one and done. Hit up Arty's Glass for a picture if he still has it
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on July 31, 2022, 05:49:31 PM
The ol' double post

would love to see a photo!

I've posted mine in multiple threads on here but this is my newest one

(https://i.imgur.com/mx84H4Y.png)

18" or 45.6cm axle to axle wheelbase
Indy stock bushings(meh)
56mm Roughriders (slimed down on a bench sander. I sand them to the core)
(https://jettools.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0ca0ea9ac66616e29e808a123aec7ba8/7/0/708595_main_05c5.png)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Landmine on August 01, 2022, 09:18:55 AM
Interesting.  I'm guessing slimming down the Rough Riders allows you to skip adding washers to space out the wheels? Still no truck bite?

This is the kind of fuckery I'm into.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on August 01, 2022, 01:38:52 PM
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Speaking of wheelbase, what's the general consensus (I bet there's not one lol)?  3 1/2" from tip to baseplate?
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18-20 inches is what most will tell you.

I started off at 19 1/4" for shits and giggles, and liked it to learn.
Went down to 18 and quickly realized it's a different feel and like it better.

I was riding super soft bushing combos at larger wheelbases, and had to stiffen the bushings up to come down to 18.

*BBS w/ 20" WB  and 83A BONT barrel/cone on SG Jogger rollerskate plates (I live on a hilly road and it's my Pola-bomber)
*PS Stix with 18" WB and 82A Powerdyne barrel bottom and Bones Soft cone on SG Peanuts with rubber riser from
  moonpatrol.
*BBS with same WB and bushings as above but no rubber riser (Since BBS decks are much more flat, it got setup to
  basically A/B test the difference)

Any difference in flex between BBS and PS Stix?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on August 01, 2022, 05:02:25 PM
FYI if you're interested in a SLIGHTLY larger axle without having to pay for some Indy chop-downs, HUCK skate supply
is now making a 2.5" hanger that ends up being 5.25"

(https://i.ibb.co/XbX4W2t/Screen-Shot-2022-07-28-at-9-38-23-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/XbX4W2t)

They say they work with 10 degree Sure Grip plates, so I think they'll work with the peanut plate...

I know it goes against some of the "ethos" but it's still technically a roller skate truck, and I'm gonna get some to see how the wider axle feels on one of my polarizers...

EDIT: Just got an email from Huck, and they fit perfectly and the kingpin is CLEARED with their hangers!

This is pretty sick. I would like to be able to do quick little slash/scrape/curb ride ons.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 01, 2022, 06:19:25 PM
I miss this thread for a week and come back to find a bunch of rad looking polarizers. Too many to quote or tag.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 02, 2022, 02:51:29 AM

Got the HUCK SKATE SUPPLY hangers from SinCity Skates, since they're OOS on the Huck website. You might have to do
 some detective work, but Huck says they're out there...

They are WEIRD to ride when you're used to SG hangers, but they're a great ride, feel a bit more like a tiny 109. Axle is 5.25, the KINGPIN IS BELOW THE HANGER, much more like a "traditional" skate truck, or how the ACS 500s have a higher hanger. They are compatible with any 10 degree plate, so they slip right into the SG Peanut Plate.

Pics on my "tester" board (the old polarizer that I try new shit on, which is battered but holding up):
(https://i.ibb.co/s2dBR0b/IMG-3465.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s2dBR0b)
(https://i.ibb.co/kyDynX9/IMG-3468.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyDynX9)

Since they ride higher than SG peanuts, so the first thought I had was: "OH SHIT I COULD PUT ON SOME 59MMs without a problem."


I also decided to make my old Hewitt into a "faux fibreflex" and put some ACS 430s as far as I could towards nose/tail. Got about a 20 1/2" WB on it and it flexes like crazy. Cheaper than 200+ for a new G and S surfskate, although they are beauties...
(https://i.ibb.co/QJVv7MD/68108451616-B160571-E-4621-4-C87-A618-D57-DAEAF1-B03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QJVv7MD)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 02, 2022, 02:54:55 AM
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Speaking of wheelbase, what's the general consensus (I bet there's not one lol)?  3 1/2" from tip to baseplate?
[close]

18-20 inches is what most will tell you.

I started off at 19 1/4" for shits and giggles, and liked it to learn.
Went down to 18 and quickly realized it's a different feel and like it better.

I was riding super soft bushing combos at larger wheelbases, and had to stiffen the bushings up to come down to 18.

*BBS w/ 20" WB  and 83A BONT barrel/cone on SG Jogger rollerskate plates (I live on a hilly road and it's my Pola-bomber)
*PS Stix with 18" WB and 82A Powerdyne barrel bottom and Bones Soft cone on SG Peanuts with rubber riser from
  moonpatrol.
*BBS with same WB and bushings as above but no rubber riser (Since BBS decks are much more flat, it got setup to
  basically A/B test the difference)
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Any difference in flex between BBS and PS Stix?

PS STIX feels more flexy. BBS seems more stiff and flat to me.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on August 03, 2022, 01:56:30 AM
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FYI if you're interested in a SLIGHTLY larger axle without having to pay for some Indy chop-downs, HUCK skate supply
is now making a 2.5" hanger that ends up being 5.25"

(https://i.ibb.co/XbX4W2t/Screen-Shot-2022-07-28-at-9-38-23-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/XbX4W2t)

They say they work with 10 degree Sure Grip plates, so I think they'll work with the peanut plate...

I know it goes against some of the "ethos" but it's still technically a roller skate truck, and I'm gonna get some to see how the wider axle feels on one of my polarizers...

EDIT: Just got an email from Huck, and they fit perfectly and the kingpin is CLEARED with their hangers!
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This is pretty sick. I would like to be able to do quick little slash/scrape/curb ride ons.
another option in a similar size are the ACS-500. You can find them for very cheap if you go on craigslist/marketplace whatever and search "penny board" "retro skateboard" "vintage skateboard" from people who dont know wtf they have.
I got a set for 10 bucks off a board with a broken deck not too long ago. have yet to try them, but i know george has good things to say about the 430s.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on August 03, 2022, 01:59:16 AM

I also decided to make my old Hewitt into a "faux fibreflex" and put some ACS 430s as far as I could towards nose/tail. Got about a 20 1/2" WB on it and it flexes like crazy. Cheaper than 200+ for a new G and S surfskate, although they are beauties...

dont tempt me...  :o
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on August 03, 2022, 03:35:14 AM
The trouble with wider trucks like the ACS 500s, Tracker Halftracks and Bennett Hijackers is that they're noticeably taller than the ACS 430s and Sure Grips. This changes how the ride feels, and I prefer the low to the ground feeling of the narrower trucks.

Edit: If you want more washers on the axles of Sure Grips or 430s to get more width, but the axle nuts won't fit on, you can reverse them so the nylock goes on first. This is something freestyler sometimes do, and you can even get cut down, narrower nuts - https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/hardware/decomposed-squashed-axle-nuts-20 (https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/hardware/decomposed-squashed-axle-nuts-20)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 03, 2022, 05:29:16 AM
The trouble with wider trucks like the ACS 500s, Tracker Halftracks and Bennett Hijackers is that they're noticeably taller than the ACS 430s and Sure Grips. This changes how the ride feels, and I prefer the low to the ground feeling of the narrower trucks.

Absolutely true. The HUCK hangers are 1/4 higher than the normal SG Hangers. You can feel it. It definitely changes the ride, and comes down to an almost "high/low truck" preference.


Edit: If you want more washers on the axles of Sure Grips or 430s to get more width, but the axle nuts won't fit on, you can reverse them so the nylock goes on first. This is something freestyler sometimes do, and you can even get cut down, narrower nuts - https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/hardware/decomposed-squashed-axle-nuts-20 (https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/hardware/decomposed-squashed-axle-nuts-20)

Also Sure Grip "No Nuts" nylon nuts work as well!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 03, 2022, 06:05:00 AM
Anyone have any recommendations for 7mm to 8mm axle conversion sleeves?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 04, 2022, 07:17:53 AM
Anyone have any recommendations for 7mm to 8mm axle conversion sleeves?

They're pretty universal, just find some online and slip them on, I would say.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on August 04, 2022, 04:50:36 PM
Love seeing all y’alls Polarizers. Let’s keep this thread going…

PS Stix
Sure Grip w/Bones soft bushings
OJ Mini Juice 55mm
Big Balls
Jessup

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjFbBhmf/B26836-FA-5-A2-F-454-F-AA4-F-768-E53-F69-E10.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/X7JtYGXK/C6-A0-F6-F5-59-CA-40-F3-B2-D6-4-EC87-CB6-CC01.jpg)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Landmine on August 04, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8Jr7a79.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nT6c8Jh.jpeg)

Rode it for a bit after putting it together last night, it's weird and fun.  Can't wait to skate it some more.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 04, 2022, 06:55:13 PM
Love seeing all y’alls Polarizers. Let’s keep this thread going…

PS Stix
Sure Grip w/Bones soft bushings
OJ Mini Juice 55mm
Big Balls
Jessup

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjFbBhmf/B26836-FA-5-A2-F-454-F-AA4-F-768-E53-F69-E10.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/X7JtYGXK/C6-A0-F6-F5-59-CA-40-F3-B2-D6-4-EC87-CB6-CC01.jpg)

😍
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 04, 2022, 06:58:11 PM
Love seeing all y’alls Polarizers. Let’s keep this thread going…

PS Stix
Sure Grip w/Bones soft bushings
OJ Mini Juice 55mm
Big Balls
Jessup

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjFbBhmf/B26836-FA-5-A2-F-454-F-AA4-F-768-E53-F69-E10.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/X7JtYGXK/C6-A0-F6-F5-59-CA-40-F3-B2-D6-4-EC87-CB6-CC01.jpg)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hr-Ilwuryw

@Landmine looks good with the reversed colors.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: dunc on August 05, 2022, 01:10:51 AM
Can't figure how to post pics on here. I have some usa made sure grip rollerskate trucks which I have cut down and left the rubber stopper on the front. Could these perform the same as the base plated trucks that you all seem to get? I am wanting to buy a heated wheel deck after making many of my own but I haven't  seen any in NZ yet.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 05, 2022, 01:46:23 AM
Can't figure how to post pics on here. I have some usa made sure grip rollerskate trucks which I have cut down and left the rubber stopper on the front. Could these perform the same as the base plated trucks that you all seem to get? I am wanting to buy a heated wheel deck after making many of my own but I haven't  seen any in NZ yet.

Depending on the "brand" of the plate, did it say "Jogger" or "Super X" or anything, or just "sure grip?"

Most sure grip plates will function like the "peanut plate" Sure Grip skate trucks. The kingpin angle is the same, essentially. However They the axles on some plate will be higher than the peanut plate truck, giving you about 1/8 to 1/4 more "riser." but hey, bigger wheels than if you want 'em!


*There should be an "add image to post" in bold under your message box when trying to post.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: dunc on August 05, 2022, 01:57:41 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/JKfjx7Z/16596897733981080668891941896579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JKfjx7Z)(https://i.ibb.co/j8W8LLN/16596898202652209238864051494476.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j8W8LLN)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: dunc on August 05, 2022, 02:00:13 AM
Thanks George . You have made slap that much more appealing now . Gnar you if I could.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 05, 2022, 05:06:08 AM
Thanks George . You have made slap that much more appealing now . Gnar you if I could.

board looks rad! congrats!

@sketchhitchcock, your board looks great!

Here's my "FAUX FIBREFLEX" I made out of my old Hewitt deck:

Hewitt polarizer deck
ACS 430s
2 Powerdyne Magic cushion barrels 78A
Rough Riders/Swiss Bones
20 1/2 WB (to the tips)

This ride flexes like all Hell and is super rad. Highly Recommend to anyone wanting to try the ride.

(https://i.ibb.co/YXYSzYV/IMG-3501.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YXYSzYV)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 05, 2022, 11:30:12 AM
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Thanks George . You have made slap that much more appealing now . Gnar you if I could.
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board looks rad! congrats!

@sketchhitchcock, your board looks great!

Here's my "FAUX FIBREFLEX" I made out of my old Hewitt deck:

Hewitt polarizer deck
ACS 430s
2 Powerdyne Magic cushion barrels 78A
Rough Riders/Swiss Bones
20 1/2 WB (to the tips)

This ride flexes like all Hell and is super rad. Highly Recommend to anyone wanting to try the ride.

(https://i.ibb.co/YXYSzYV/IMG-3501.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YXYSzYV)

It’s @Art Greco’s board!  Such a beauty.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 06, 2022, 10:19:06 AM
my bad! @art greco great board! ha!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on August 06, 2022, 03:15:17 PM
Thanks y’all!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 06, 2022, 04:49:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hg5Yqwq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j20NxMe.jpg)

Maiden voyage
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 09, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hg5Yqwq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j20NxMe.jpg)

Maiden voyage

Wow.  So fucking rad.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on August 09, 2022, 01:08:33 PM
For anyone in the UK, you can now pick up Polarizers and Hewitt models on sale for £55 ($66).
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on August 10, 2022, 06:05:46 AM

*There should be an "add image to post" in bold under your message box when trying to post.

WHAT! How long has that been there?!  I've been lugging off to imgur for years!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 10, 2022, 06:45:09 AM
For anyone in the UK, you can now pick up Polarizers and Hewitt models on sale for £55 ($66).

Also, there's a skateshop in the UK apparently that still has Powerdyne Hop UP Kit 85A bushing sets in stock. So lucky Brits, or rich Americans, take heed.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 10, 2022, 03:57:45 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/hg5Yqwq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j20NxMe.jpg)

Maiden voyage
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Wow.  So fucking rad.

Thanks! Been an amazing experience. I already want to build another one. They're too much fun.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 10, 2022, 06:04:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hg5Yqwq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j20NxMe.jpg)

Maiden voyage
Never thought I’d utter these words…
I like the ketchup and mustard grip job.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 11, 2022, 08:31:54 AM
Whenever I saw the grip job, the first thing I thought was "CALIENTE!"
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 11, 2022, 01:17:09 PM
"Polarizers are hot, dude." - Neil Blender
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 11, 2022, 09:09:06 PM
Now that’s a hot take…
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on August 17, 2022, 01:21:56 PM
Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 17, 2022, 09:08:44 PM
Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
I’ve been on Indy 78s(bottom sanded into a conical) with no washers. What duro cushions and shape are you riding? I’ve been tempted by the 72 conicals but was using what I had.
Also, were you running the regular top/bottom combo or the 2 bottoms per truck? If I can get even more turn than now I’m all for it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 18, 2022, 08:52:27 AM
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Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
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I’ve been on Indy 78s(bottom sanded into a conical) with no washers. What duro cushions and shape are you riding? I’ve been tempted by the 72 conicals but was using what I had.
Also, were you running the regular top/bottom combo or the 2 bottoms per truck? If I can get even more turn than now I’m all for it.

How are the Indy 78s in this instance? I had a set of Ace 44 classics where I ran them as my bottom bushing and loved them.

That being said, I also got wheelbite on my polarizer running bones mediums on top and softs on the bottom so maybe that is tempting fate.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on August 18, 2022, 08:56:03 AM
I'm riding bont 78a barrel bottom with a cone top

they're super rubbery, i can push hard to wheelbite but have 4 washers to clear any hanger bite
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on August 18, 2022, 10:52:12 AM
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Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
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I’ve been on Indy 78s(bottom sanded into a conical) with no washers. What duro cushions and shape are you riding? I’ve been tempted by the 72 conicals but was using what I had.
Also, were you running the regular top/bottom combo or the 2 bottoms per truck? If I can get even more turn than now I’m all for it.

I was running what came stock from heated wheel which I believe is two bones bottoms.

I just run two red barrels in the back with the bones washer on top, and two yellow barrels in the front, also with bones washer on top. I (thankfully) don’t suffer from madness and am not really a gear head/tinkerer so I don’t know the duro/exact shape but the thing rolls so well so I’m not gonna fuck with it too much more.

I also really love having pulled the wheelbase back on the front truck resulting in a big nose, basically puts my front foot right before the front truck which makes carving feel great.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: yourbreakfsat on August 18, 2022, 12:54:44 PM
G&S has surfskates back in stock

https://gordonandsmith.com/collections/skateboards

Wish I had a need for one but I know I'm only gonna use it like twice before letting it collect dust  :'(
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 18, 2022, 06:17:41 PM
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Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
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I’ve been on Indy 78s(bottom sanded into a conical) with no washers. What duro cushions and shape are you riding? I’ve been tempted by the 72 conicals but was using what I had.
Also, were you running the regular top/bottom combo or the 2 bottoms per truck? If I can get even more turn than now I’m all for it.
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How are the Indy 78s in this instance? I had a set of Ace 44 classics where I ran them as my bottom bushing and loved them.

That being said, I also got wheelbite on my polarizer running bones mediums on top and softs on the bottom so maybe that is tempting fate.
They’re great. Just make sure to sand the barrels into conicals. Regular top with bottom barrel sucked. I do ride them on all my stuff so it’s not different other than I can turn waaaaaay deeper with the tiny trucks.
Still can’t help wondering about the 72 conical Suregrips though. Madness and all that…
@mattchew thanks.
@yourbreakfsat at least your being honest with yourself. I’d convince myself I can’t live with out one then have it suffer a similar fate.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: YungJugg on August 18, 2022, 06:45:09 PM
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Been riding mine around town a bunch this past week; these are just so, so fucking fun. The rough riders make me feel invincible. Also I cannot emphasize enough how different the ride is on magic cushions as opposed to the stock bones.
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I’ve been on Indy 78s(bottom sanded into a conical) with no washers. What duro cushions and shape are you riding? I’ve been tempted by the 72 conicals but was using what I had.
Also, were you running the regular top/bottom combo or the 2 bottoms per truck? If I can get even more turn than now I’m all for it.
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How are the Indy 78s in this instance? I had a set of Ace 44 classics where I ran them as my bottom bushing and loved them.

That being said, I also got wheelbite on my polarizer running bones mediums on top and softs on the bottom so maybe that is tempting fate.
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They’re great. Just make sure to sand the barrels into conicals. Regular top with bottom barrel sucked. I do ride them on all my stuff so it’s not different other than I can turn waaaaaay deeper with the tiny trucks.
Still can’t help wondering about the 72 conical Suregrips though. Madness and all that…
@mattchew thanks.
@yourbreakfsat at least your being honest with yourself. I’d convince myself I can’t live with out one then have it suffer a similar fate.

78a Indy work great in my sure grips, especially well fully broken in. Feel like a conical bottom bushing would be a little sketchy at higher speeds and on hills, is it still relatively stable?

Sanding wheelwells into my polarizers been a gamechanger, no more worry.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 18, 2022, 08:37:43 PM
@YungJugg the only ‘hills’ we have around where I am is only about 30’ tall and pretty mellow. I will hit them with as much speed as I can get by pushing my ass off before I go down them and I don’t have a problem. Take that with a grain of salt though, since they’re not a really hills.
I use the same bushings on my dog walker/rain board (24.5” x 6” with 12” wb and floppy loose) so it’s not a huge difference between the two.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on August 19, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
I’m running Bones soft bushings, bottoms all around as recommended by Neil Blender. Works great…

Here is what Neil said about bushing: -NB: “Here’s some bushings that are good. Bones soft: remember to use all bottom ones 14mm, otherwise you bottom the kingpin out.”

(https://i.postimg.cc/YC1c6wvL/DEA2-E00-F-2-B9-D-493-E-A3-FB-109-B193081-DB.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 21, 2022, 07:45:03 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/XpkVRmL/sire.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XpkVRmL)

After several, several R and D runs on all kinds of boards, trucks, bushings, wheels, etc
I have momentarily settled on this setup. I dig.

"Sire" polarizer
 Sure Grip plates with HUCK TRUCKS 2.5" axles
Powerdyne Hop Up Kit 85A barrel/cones
Bones Swiss
Ye Olde Rough Riders 56mm

Scored some Hop Up Kits from the UK, can absolutely see why they were initially recommended for polarizers before they
went OOS.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on August 23, 2022, 11:27:27 PM
https://youtu.be/rOE1R19kKmg

just found this video. this guy just made me realize how much you can do on these boards
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on August 24, 2022, 06:58:08 AM
Those pants and those tunes are a hard sell.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on August 24, 2022, 09:02:27 AM
Those are just normal pants that no one outside of slap would think twice about. The tunes are corny, but that dude is killing it.

Unless there are two guys with the same name who are into Polarizers, he also put together an article about them with some direct intel from Neil Blender.

https://shredshack.com/polarizer-skateboard/ (https://shredshack.com/polarizer-skateboard/)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 24, 2022, 09:07:47 AM
https://youtu.be/rOE1R19kKmg

just found this video. this guy just made me realize how much you can do on these boards

This is Ty, and he rips.

He is the author of the Shred Shack articles on polarizers, yeah.

He also rips on a surfboard, on a longboard, on a skateboard, whatever.

Heckuva nice kid, as well.

He should be writing another article about polarizing at the moment, I believe.

I've been assisting him with this/that in regards to old guy skate info, ha!

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on August 24, 2022, 09:24:42 AM
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https://youtu.be/rOE1R19kKmg

just found this video. this guy just made me realize how much you can do on these boards
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This is Ty, and he rips.

He is the author of the Shred Shack articles on polarizers, yeah.

He also rips on a surfboard, on a longboard, on a skateboard, whatever.

Heckuva nice kid, as well.

He should be writing another article about polarizing at the moment, I believe.

I've been assisting him with this/that in regards to old guy skate info, ha!

Dude totally rips. That video made me want to go skate!  Looking forward to more videos and articles from him in the future.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Fakiepush on August 24, 2022, 05:30:05 PM
Used a polarizer as a template to cut out an ishod twin tail, sawed the nose and tail out to get a 20” wheelbase.
(https://i.ibb.co/xXnjvb5/6-CD45-DA9-C67-A-4-FC3-ADA4-AA3-CFE6774-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xXnjvb5) (https://i.ibb.co/f0nywkz/CC24-FCF4-277-B-4380-9-B75-67-F5039-E8117.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f0nywkz) (https://i.ibb.co/6J9xMsM/B4640357-121-D-4530-816-A-40-E520-B961-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6J9xMsM) (https://i.ibb.co/NLwKRG4/B04-D708-B-652-C-4-ED9-B247-9-C4-A74-E93024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NLwKRG4) (https://i.ibb.co/PFgjQD6/B8081528-5834-4-BB5-BF98-BD52958-B606-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PFgjQD6) (https://i.ibb.co/hc11MTn/B4392-AF9-D356-472-B-80-A1-E21732-CDD778.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hc11MTn) (https://i.ibb.co/SyyPMtB/F75-E6757-53-E3-4-F4-E-B86-B-D203-EF07663-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SyyPMtB)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 24, 2022, 07:24:35 PM
https://youtu.be/rOE1R19kKmg

just found this video. this guy just made me realize how much you can do on these boards
On a Scram trip a few years back Lindloff was shredding the hell out of a polarizer. If I can find the clips again I’ll toss them up. I know there’s also some footy of Raven ripping on one I think at Washington street?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on August 24, 2022, 11:22:52 PM
Yeah that Raven hillbomb is fucked.

Sorry for the Facebook vid but here it is
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155218212312803&_rdr
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on August 25, 2022, 06:33:55 PM
Used a polarizer as a template to cut out an ishod twin tail, sawed the nose and tail out to get a 20” wheelbase.
(https://i.ibb.co/xXnjvb5/6-CD45-DA9-C67-A-4-FC3-ADA4-AA3-CFE6774-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xXnjvb5) (https://i.ibb.co/f0nywkz/CC24-FCF4-277-B-4380-9-B75-67-F5039-E8117.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f0nywkz) (https://i.ibb.co/6J9xMsM/B4640357-121-D-4530-816-A-40-E520-B961-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6J9xMsM) (https://i.ibb.co/NLwKRG4/B04-D708-B-652-C-4-ED9-B247-9-C4-A74-E93024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NLwKRG4) (https://i.ibb.co/PFgjQD6/B8081528-5834-4-BB5-BF98-BD52958-B606-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PFgjQD6) (https://i.ibb.co/hc11MTn/B4392-AF9-D356-472-B-80-A1-E21732-CDD778.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hc11MTn) (https://i.ibb.co/SyyPMtB/F75-E6757-53-E3-4-F4-E-B86-B-D203-EF07663-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SyyPMtB)

Ingenuity at its best. Nice work. How’s it ride?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 25, 2022, 06:38:29 PM
2:48 … some Polarizer competition…

https://youtu.be/aIK_yuW4hlA

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on August 25, 2022, 11:16:05 PM
That was sick, I love skatepark races
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on August 25, 2022, 11:28:38 PM
'Rizer's are hellride now...


The end is near
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 26, 2022, 06:35:19 AM
2:48 … some Polarizer competition…

https://youtu.be/aIK_yuW4hlA

Uh oh. Polarizers in Thrasher. The Purists are gonna freak.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on August 26, 2022, 08:37:13 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgw6x-LFy_J/
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 26, 2022, 11:22:14 AM
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2:48 … some Polarizer competition…

https://youtu.be/aIK_yuW4hlA
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Uh oh. Polarizers in Thrasher. The Purists are gonna freak.

I also thought this was pretty significant.  Big moment for polarizers.  Just wish Omar Hassan wasnt so vocal haha. 

I dig the 70s contest vibe, Jake Hill and Tom Remillard of Heated Wheel messing around on Neil’s polarizer for a Thrasher vid.  And Jake Hill’s hippy jump “World Chamionship” was on a cruiser board of some kind too.  Liked seeing Riley Hawk, made a nice connection to old SoCal contest scene.  Felt like a very specific spotlight on this little subculture and I loved it for that

Also these boards are harder to ride without “experience” as Omar describes it, so that gave it another dimension
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on August 28, 2022, 05:15:42 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/2t0JDQ7/IMG-3980.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2t0JDQ7)

This one is pretty wild balance wise.

Hewitt deck
Sk8 City trucks
78a BONT bushings, barrell/cone
bones and rough riders.

Took the WB down to about 16 1/4" axle to axle.
The Sk8 City trucks have more of a traditional truck geometry than bona fide rollerskate trucks.

It is so damn squirrelly. Total Blast.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Fakiepush on August 30, 2022, 11:36:25 PM
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Used a polarizer as a template to cut out an ishod twin tail, sawed the nose and tail out to get a 20” wheelbase.
(https://i.ibb.co/xXnjvb5/6-CD45-DA9-C67-A-4-FC3-ADA4-AA3-CFE6774-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xXnjvb5) (https://i.ibb.co/f0nywkz/CC24-FCF4-277-B-4380-9-B75-67-F5039-E8117.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f0nywkz) (https://i.ibb.co/6J9xMsM/B4640357-121-D-4530-816-A-40-E520-B961-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6J9xMsM) (https://i.ibb.co/NLwKRG4/B04-D708-B-652-C-4-ED9-B247-9-C4-A74-E93024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NLwKRG4) (https://i.ibb.co/PFgjQD6/B8081528-5834-4-BB5-BF98-BD52958-B606-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PFgjQD6) (https://i.ibb.co/hc11MTn/B4392-AF9-D356-472-B-80-A1-E21732-CDD778.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hc11MTn) (https://i.ibb.co/SyyPMtB/F75-E6757-53-E3-4-F4-E-B86-B-D203-EF07663-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SyyPMtB)
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Ingenuity at its best. Nice work. How’s it ride?

Rides amazing, long wheelbase feels very stable compared to my first with a 17" wheelbase. Only problem was kingpin would bite the street on any slightly uneven pavement so had to put on a short top bushing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on September 03, 2022, 10:35:55 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 03, 2022, 04:05:37 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Beautiful. Stringer stripe grip?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on September 04, 2022, 04:34:30 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/vwvyyGf/IMG-4066.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vwvyyGf)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CiCpYhFO8-O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
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Beautiful. Stringer stripe grip?

Roger roger.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on September 06, 2022, 06:49:05 AM


Hey humans:

I've made a POLARIZATION STATION playlist on Spotify to polarize with/on/around.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3zdEAGimvTN1FLbJ5ddFqE?si=b2ba3564e9eb412f

If you want to collaborate on it with your own jams, hit me up and I'll add you to the collab list!

Enjoy it.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on September 06, 2022, 06:02:34 PM


Hey humans:

I've made a POLARIZATION STATION playlist on Spotify to polarize with/on/around.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3zdEAGimvTN1FLbJ5ddFqE?si=b2ba3564e9eb412f

If you want to collaborate on it with your own jams, hit me up and I'll add you to the collab list!

Enjoy it.

Rad. What the criteria for inclusion? I can’t determine the common thread for these songs.  Or are they just sick, cruising tunes?

If so, I’d throw in Hungersite by Goose.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: pugmaster on September 07, 2022, 12:03:26 AM
These wouldn't hurt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEO6gYCFbr0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEO6gYCFbr0)

Big fan of this track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIq886KcoY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIq886KcoY)

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 14, 2022, 07:21:22 PM
Got a question for you guys.
 I’m getting a creaking like a crappy bearing on mine. Checked the bearings and cleaned them they’re all fine. It looks like the sound is coming from a screw possibly loosening? Tried snugging them up but they won’t tighten any further.
Anyone had this happen? Any solution you found?Just wondering before I drill all the way through and just use bolts.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Frank and Fred on September 14, 2022, 07:47:50 PM


Hey humans:

I've made a POLARIZATION STATION playlist on Spotify to polarize with/on/around.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3zdEAGimvTN1FLbJ5ddFqE?si=b2ba3564e9eb412f

If you want to collaborate on it with your own jams, hit me up and I'll add you to the collab list!

Enjoy it.

No idea what Lungfish has to do with Polarizers but mad props for starting off with that band.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on September 14, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
Got a question for you guys.
 I’m getting a creaking like a crappy bearing on mine. Checked the bearings and cleaned them they’re all fine. It looks like the sound is coming from a screw possibly loosening? Tried snugging them up but they won’t tighten any further.
Anyone had this happen? Any solution you found?Just wondering before I drill all the way through and just use bolts.

Not your pivot cups?  Hit em with a drop of lube
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 14, 2022, 09:30:17 PM
Nope. I oiled them when I did the bearings. It sounds like a broken bearing, if you know what that sounds like. But I checked all of them when I cleaned/lubed, they were all fine. It’s not consistent though. Just when I turn and the screw on the rear hanger isn’t seating all the way down but wont tighten anymore.
I’ll try to get it on video when I take the dog out before work.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on September 15, 2022, 07:27:56 AM
Nope. I oiled them when I did the bearings. It sounds like a broken bearing, if you know what that sounds like. But I checked all of them when I cleaned/lubed, they were all fine. It’s not consistent though. Just when I turn and the screw on the rear hanger isn’t seating all the way down but wont tighten anymore.
I’ll try to get it on video when I take the dog out before work.

I first thought exactly what @radcunt said, pivot cups usually give the squeak.

What kind of trucks are you using, and bushings, etc?
Could have a geometry issue with hangers to baseplate, etc.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 15, 2022, 06:24:45 PM
Using the SG peanuts with Indy super softs(regular top bottom height and bottom shaved into a conical) since I run them really loose. Never had an issue with the plagiarizer I made, but was using different screws since it was 1/16” thicker than the real one. It’s like the zipper sound of screwed bearings but they’re fine.
I got a little clip with the noise that I’ll post later. It’s not causing any issues other than with my head.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on September 15, 2022, 06:39:40 PM
Plagarizer?

Or

Fauxlorizer?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on September 17, 2022, 04:39:40 PM
Got a question for you guys.
 I’m getting a creaking like a crappy bearing on mine. Checked the bearings and cleaned them they’re all fine. It looks like the sound is coming from a screw possibly loosening? Tried snugging them up but they won’t tighten any further.
Anyone had this happen? Any solution you found?Just wondering before I drill all the way through and just use bolts.

Could be the screw is squeaking against that Formica layer.  When I re-did mine I filled the holes with Tightbond and a small dowel. Seems to be working well so far. 

Just a thought… could the sound be coming from a slipped axle?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 17, 2022, 07:25:41 PM
I don’t think so.
 I did film it making the zipper sound but the clip somehow got converted to the lowest resolution when it uploaded to YT. Think flip phone camera quality. I’ll try to get it posted in his so you can actually hear it.
I’m thinking it may be the bottom bushing cup since I didn’t have them on the other one. Trucks have about 1/8-3/16” play between the bottom and the cup since they’re loose.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Fasttimes on September 28, 2022, 09:28:43 PM
Sorry to jump on this late. I grew up skating smaller boards and our cruiser set ups were usually way heavy / large. Are these usable in East coast weather? Are these pressed so you can push down and pump? My current cruiser is a zip zogger for example. Sorry to bother.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on October 04, 2022, 08:12:05 PM
Sorry to jump on this late. I grew up skating smaller boards and our cruiser set ups were usually way heavy / large. Are these usable in East coast weather? Are these pressed so you can push down and pump? My current cruiser is a zip zogger for example. Sorry to bother.

Wouldn't seek out crust on these things, but they can handle a little with their softer wheels. However, the small size makes them more sketchy on rough ground. Best suited for asphalt and smooth concrete.

Has anyone run those bones green dragons on a polarizer yet? I was staring at all my boards/parts earlier and that crossed my mind. The idea of sliding a polarizer seemed interesting. Will report back if I try.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 05, 2022, 05:10:23 PM
Had some free time while I had to wait for a car to finish baking, so I hit skate jail for an hour. You can clearly hear that annoying ass sound I was talking about(there is some bushing squeak but it’s not them or the bearings). Any ideas wtf it is?!?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtFA6cO9os&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on October 05, 2022, 05:54:51 PM
Had some free time while I had to wait for a car to finish baking, so I hit skate jail for an hour. You can clearly hear that annoying ass sound I was talking about(there is some bushing squeak but it’s not them or the bearings). Any ideas wtf it is?!?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtFA6cO9os&feature=youtu.be

Have you tried swapping out the bearings, just to make sure?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on October 05, 2022, 08:13:48 PM
Had some free time while I had to wait for a car to finish baking, so I hit skate jail for an hour. You can clearly hear that annoying ass sound I was talking about(there is some bushing squeak but it’s not them or the bearings). Any ideas wtf it is?!?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtFA6cO9os&feature=youtu.be

cant tell what wheels you are running, if they are rough riders or something with a plastic core maybe see if its cracked? try the bearings in different wheels?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 05, 2022, 08:49:33 PM
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Had some free time while I had to wait for a car to finish baking, so I hit skate jail for an hour. You can clearly hear that annoying ass sound I was talking about(there is some bushing squeak but it’s not them or the bearings). Any ideas wtf it is?!?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YtFA6cO9os&feature=youtu.be
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cant tell what wheels you are running, if they are rough riders or something with a plastic core maybe see if its cracked? try the bearings in different wheels?

Mini juices, so a core could be a possibility. I’ll try the wheels/bearings I’ve got on my little MPI.
Thanks, that’s something I wouldn’t have ever thought of.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on October 07, 2022, 12:49:08 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjZKnr8JDbn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

new season online and in shops now. really big fan of these new graphics.

new polarizer shape "track and field"
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on October 07, 2022, 07:28:38 AM
Damn, the aqua one is so beautiful!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on October 07, 2022, 08:04:04 AM
 :( i was able to shrug off the first drop but these ones are making my OG black style feel inferior
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on October 07, 2022, 10:31:27 AM
The Track and Field looks good for more of a flexi feel.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 07, 2022, 05:39:29 PM
Some lookers in that drop. Willy clip I stumbled upon at lunch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70E_F8GF3WA&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on October 09, 2022, 02:36:32 PM
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Time to give Neil all of your money
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Post by: thanksgiving on October 09, 2022, 09:37:59 PM
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Time to give Neil all of your money
damn! no photo!!!??

i heard about these. pretty cool that they are doing their own trucks. id assume being manufactured at whatever factory aces are made at as they seem to have ties
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on October 10, 2022, 12:01:54 PM
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Time to give Neil all of your money
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damn! no photo!!!??

i heard about these. pretty cool that they are doing their own trucks. id assume being manufactured at whatever factory aces are made at as they seem to have ties

So rad. I really hope there’s hanger clearance so you can scrape little grinds in.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on October 12, 2022, 11:33:14 AM
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Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 12, 2022, 12:00:52 PM
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Wow I need to finally make a polarizer once these are available

I want to do a homebrew old deck one first and the hw trucks would make it feel more official
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on October 14, 2022, 12:16:03 PM
g&s have restocked fibreflex reissues, at the low price of $175  :-\

dont think i can justify that with how poor the canadian dollar is, but god the purple one is nice.

https://gordonandsmith.com/collections/skateboards/products/g-s-fibreflex-pro-slalom-model?variant=40263695138883
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on October 14, 2022, 12:25:49 PM
Nice. I wouldn't have minded one of these.

https://gordonandsmith.com/collections/skateboards/products/fibreflex-slalom-model?variant=40176896147523 (https://gordonandsmith.com/collections/skateboards/products/fibreflex-slalom-model?variant=40176896147523)

But, yeah, too expensive for me.

edit: the new Track and Field is a similar shape, and a bit cheaper.
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Post by: radcunt on October 14, 2022, 10:54:55 PM
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Holy shit
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: AlSharpton on October 16, 2022, 03:49:45 AM
What kind of wheels is Everyone using? I know Neil uses rough riders but I was checking out the roller bones and maybe splitting the pack of them with a friend. I have one of the G&S surf skates from a few years back and I love the Powell wheels they came with but they’re getting a bit beat up. I’d like to thing the roller bones would work with sure grips but I’m not positive.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on October 16, 2022, 05:52:42 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/xmWfK2K/IMG-4558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmWfK2K)

Had a guy cut down some Indy 109s to a 2" hanger. They're pretty goofy and fun.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on October 16, 2022, 11:56:22 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/xmWfK2K/IMG-4558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmWfK2K)

Had a guy cut down some Indy 109s to a 2" hanger. They're pretty goofy and fun.

Is that Track and Field deck narrower at the front compared to the back? Difficult to tell from the photographs on the website.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on October 21, 2022, 03:00:05 PM
Finally got around to trying the green dragons out on my polarizer, pretty fun. Def less grip than the rough riders, but it feels pretty cool to do little slides in a tucked stance. Would recommend. I feel like the 56mm ones would be best. I have the 54 wides I think?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on October 21, 2022, 03:13:49 PM
What kind of wheels is Everyone using? I know Neil uses rough riders but I was checking out the roller bones and maybe splitting the pack of them with a friend. I have one of the G&S surf skates from a few years back and I love the Powell wheels they came with but they’re getting a bit beat up. I’d like to thing the roller bones would work with sure grips but I’m not positive.
rough riders, rough riders, rough riders
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on October 21, 2022, 06:26:32 PM
What kind of wheels is Everyone using? I know Neil uses rough riders but I was checking out the roller bones and maybe splitting the pack of them with a friend. I have one of the G&S surf skates from a few years back and I love the Powell wheels they came with but they’re getting a bit beat up. I’d like to thing the roller bones would work with sure grips but I’m not positive.

OJ Mini Super Juice
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 21, 2022, 06:37:12 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/xmWfK2K/IMG-4558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmWfK2K)

Had a guy cut down some Indy 109s to a 2" hanger. They're pretty goofy and fun.
Been wanting to do that as well. How are they compared to the roller skate trucks?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on October 23, 2022, 08:38:32 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/xmWfK2K/IMG-4558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmWfK2K)

Had a guy cut down some Indy 109s to a 2" hanger. They're pretty goofy and fun.
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Been wanting to do that as well. How are they compared to the roller skate trucks?

geometry is def different, a bit more stiff but on a longer WB they carve nice. You have to use Bones Bushings for the top cone because of they're Indys, of course. But on the bottom I put in a BONT 78A Barrel with no washers and on a 19 " WB they feel great.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 23, 2022, 07:34:48 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/xmWfK2K/IMG-4558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmWfK2K)

Had a guy cut down some Indy 109s to a 2" hanger. They're pretty goofy and fun.
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Been wanting to do that as well. How are they compared to the roller skate trucks?
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geometry is def different, a bit more stiff but on a longer WB they carve nice. You have to use Bones Bushings for the top cone because of they're Indys, of course. But on the bottom I put in a BONT 78A Barrel with no washers and on a 19 " WB they feel great.
Thanks. Now I just need to find a cheap set.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on October 24, 2022, 06:16:03 AM
I implore you all, go try green dragon wheels on your polarizer if you have them. I've had tons of fun doing little heel and toe side slides. if you're ripping these things like raven does you probably will not enjoy having less grip, but i dont get that impression from this thread.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on November 01, 2022, 12:02:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xklDRp5RQ_g

found these videos by these japanese guys... pretty cool seeing polarizer content, and hilarious that they call him neil sensei. just press the CC button on youtube and it will show english captions

clip at 2:05 is so sick
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on November 02, 2022, 04:00:34 PM
anyone have tips for speedchecks on these things? so grippy i dont know how people do it

trying dragons is tempting but i just love the glassy feeling of rough riders with the flex
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 02, 2022, 05:26:40 PM
anyone have tips for speedchecks on these things? so grippy i dont know how people do it

trying dragons is tempting but i just love the glassy feeling of rough riders with the flex
If it’s on transition I can’t say. On flat just wide carves. Have to do that going down hill with the dog since hes gotten older.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: dunc on November 02, 2022, 05:52:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xklDRp5RQ_g

found these videos by these japanese guys... pretty cool seeing polarizer content, and hilarious that they call him neil sensei. just press the CC button on youtube and it will show english captions

clip at 2:05 is so sick

This spot is unreal for these types of setups.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on November 02, 2022, 08:00:49 PM
anyone have tips for speedchecks on these things? so grippy i dont know how people do it

trying dragons is tempting but i just love the glassy feeling of rough riders with the flex

Dragons are pretty sick on here. I couldn't really do them with the rough riders, just really little ones. Get in a really tucked stance with your feet a bit closer to the center of the board and it seems to work well, super fun.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on November 02, 2022, 09:03:25 PM
What’s the park in San Diego that Neil and Cº always ride?  And who here’s got the Heated Wheel DVD?  I love that thing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cucktard on November 03, 2022, 05:46:08 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xklDRp5RQ_g

found these videos by these japanese guys... pretty cool seeing polarizer content, and hilarious that they call him neil sensei. just press the CC button on youtube and it will show english captions

clip at 2:05 is so sick

This spot is unreal for these types of setups.
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I’ve been there, and it’s a flood control field with some skatable terrain added. While it’s pretty boring for regular skating, for a polarizer it would be fun.

What’s weird is that the funnest thing there is a 50m long mini ramp kinda thing on the other side of the bank they are pumping on. Have no idea why they didn’t put footage of them carving through that.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on November 03, 2022, 06:42:57 AM
What’s the park in San Diego that Neil and Cº always ride?  And who here’s got the Heated Wheel DVD?  I love that thing.
Robb Field skatepark in ocean beach
It’s perfect for mellow cruising. Ground is a little rough by Southern California standards.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on November 03, 2022, 06:59:00 AM
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What’s the park in San Diego that Neil and Cº always ride?  And who here’s got the Heated Wheel DVD?  I love that thing.
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Robb Field skatepark in ocean beach
It’s perfect for mellow cruising. Ground is a little rough by Southern California standards.

So its better than anything on the east coast that wasnt built in the last 4 years? haha.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on November 03, 2022, 07:07:37 AM
What’s the park in San Diego that Neil and Cº always ride?  And who here’s got the Heated Wheel DVD?  I love that thing.

I don’t own it but have seen it and it’s rad. Need to rewatch as I’ve polarized many a time since my last viewing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on November 03, 2022, 05:27:15 PM
Is it online anywhere
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 03, 2022, 05:34:26 PM
Is it online anywhere

Seconding this question
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on November 03, 2022, 06:15:38 PM
Nah and no response when I’ve asked and they’ve never uploaded it. I’m tempted to rip it for my own records though and if I do I can share it with you hotdogs.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on November 04, 2022, 03:46:07 AM
It’s amazing in this day and age, when you can find literally anything on the internet, that When The Grunion Run is still so elusive.

I would gladly buy it from Neil if he’d just make it available, as I’m sure most of us would. I want to support the Heated Wheel in any way I can.

Right now, with the increased interest in Polarizers, seems like an especially good time for an official re-release of that video.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: lulz on November 04, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
I’d buy the aqua stripe one if I had the cash…. Neil Blender’s sale:
https://theheatedwheel.com/?syclid=cdilnkr7k0494iq0nlqg&utm_campaign=emailmarketing_144722886904&utm_medium=email&utm_source=shopify_email
(https://i.ibb.co/wJgjJXC/10-A05-DC3-E2-A3-4-C5-A-A40-C-079-DCB8-B3489.png) (https://ibb.co/wJgjJXC)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on November 05, 2022, 03:23:25 PM
you can put your email in the wheel of fortune popup and use the code on top of the sale price. (just open in incognito and keep opening the page and putting random emails in)

$45USD to ship a polarizer to canada?????
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: hayduke lives on November 06, 2022, 12:37:25 AM
Nah and no response when I’ve asked and they’ve never uploaded it. I’m tempted to rip it for my own records though and if I do I can share it with you hotdogs.


please do! also curious if there is a good trick for getting trucks mounted centered and square?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on November 06, 2022, 03:53:11 AM
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Nah and no response when I’ve asked and they’ve never uploaded it. I’m tempted to rip it for my own records though and if I do I can share it with you hotdogs.
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please do! also curious if there is a good trick for getting trucks mounted centered and square?


Make a baseplate template by getting a thin piece of paper and draw an outline of your truck baseplate and mark each bolt hole.  Cut the template into a square slightly larger than the baseplate outline. Fold the template in half, lining up the corresponding holes left/right (horizontally) by looking at the template very close to a bright source of light (lamp, fire, the blazing arctic sun, etc).

(NOTE: If using a Sure Grip Classic truck, the baseplate hole for the pivot cup side are SLIGHTLY closer together than the kingpin side, so make a note of PIVOT SIDE for later)

Once the holes are aligned, emphasize the crease, making the crease line pronounced. Mark the crease vertically with pen/marker.  Now use a small screwdriver or something like it to poke through the bolt holes out in the template.

You now have a polarizer truck mounting template.

Take a piece of tape (painter's tape is best IMO), and run it vertically on the polarizer nose to tail approximating the middle of the deck.

Grab a ruler and make AT LEAST THREE measurements of the "mid" line of the board. Usually one around the 5 1/2" mark near the nose and tail, and one in the 6" area of the deck.

FYI polarizer decks are not symmetrical, they're loosely shaped on surf longboard PIG models, so the widest point is NOT the middle of the deck.

Now use the ruler to connect the dots to make your mid line on the deck.

Grab your trucks (with hanger/bushings still on the trucks) and place them where you want to place them on the board. Wheelbases preferred are anything from 18 to 20 inches AXLE TO AXLE, but do whatever you want. 18 inches IMO is a great place to start.

Make sure to measure from the tip of the nose to the start of your baseplate and same on the tail to approximate truck balance. Usually about 3 - 3 1/2 inches.

Once you have the trucks in both desired spots, take a pencil and mark one of the bolt holes on each truck.

Take off trucks and place the template on one of the truck spots. Line up the  same template bolt hole with the bolt hole you just marked. Now lock the mid-line on the template to your mid line on your deck. Now use a marker to mark the bolt hole spots through the template on the board.

Repeat for second truck.

You should now have everything you need logistically to mount the trucks and have a aligned/centered truck situation.

I always recommend pre-drilling bolt holes about 1/8 to a 1/4 into the deck with a 5/16 bit if you are using sheet metal screws. If just bolts, drill away.


Hope this helps.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: hayduke lives on November 06, 2022, 05:36:04 AM
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Nah and no response when I’ve asked and they’ve never uploaded it. I’m tempted to rip it for my own records though and if I do I can share it with you hotdogs.
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please do! also curious if there is a good trick for getting trucks mounted centered and square?
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Make a baseplate template by getting a thin piece of paper and draw an outline of your truck baseplate and mark each bolt hole.  Cut the template into a square slightly larger than the baseplate outline. Fold the template in half, lining up the corresponding holes left/right (horizontally) by looking at the template very close to a bright source of light (lamp, fire, the blazing arctic sun, etc).

(NOTE: If using a Sure Grip Classic truck, the baseplate hole for the pivot cup side are SLIGHTLY closer together than the kingpin side, so make a note of PIVOT SIDE for later)

Once the holes are aligned, emphasize the crease, making the crease line pronounced. Mark the crease vertically with pen/marker.  Now use a small screwdriver or something like it to poke through the bolt holes out in the template.

You now have a polarizer truck mounting template.

Take a piece of tape (painter's tape is best IMO), and run it vertically on the polarizer nose to tail approximating the middle of the deck.

Grab a ruler and make AT LEAST THREE measurements of the "mid" line of the board. Usually one around the 5 1/2" mark near the nose and tail, and one in the 6" area of the deck.

FYI polarizer decks are not symmetrical, they're loosely shaped on surf longboard PIG models, so the widest point is NOT the middle of the deck.

Now use the ruler to connect the dots to make your mid line on the deck.

Grab your trucks (with hanger/bushings still on the trucks) and place them where you want to place them on the board. Wheelbases preferred are anything from 18 to 20 inches AXLE TO AXLE, but do whatever you want. 18 inches IMO is a great place to start.

Make sure to measure from the tip of the nose to the start of your baseplate and same on the tail to approximate truck balance. Usually about 3 - 3 1/2 inches.

Once you have the trucks in both desired spots, take a pencil and mark one of the bolt holes on each truck.

Take off trucks and place the template on one of the truck spots. Line up the  same template bolt hole with the bolt hole you just marked. Now lock the mid-line on the template to your mid line on your deck. Now use a marker to mark the bolt hole spots through the template on the board.

Repeat for second truck.

You should now have everything you need logistically to mount the trucks and have a aligned/centered truck situation.

I always recommend pre-drilling bolt holes about 1/8 to a 1/4 into the deck with a 5/16 bit if you are using sheet metal screws. If just bolts, drill away.


Hope this helps.

definitely helps, thank you!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on November 10, 2022, 08:05:58 AM
Got my track and field from the sale in. Real nice shape and 100% flat. Looks like a mixture of the polarizer and Hewitt special

Had some issues with the order and after fixing it they hooked me up with a dvd and some goodies.

(https://i.ibb.co/CWy33g5/Track-NField.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CWy33g5)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on November 10, 2022, 08:45:38 PM
Got my track and field from the sale in. Real nice shape and 100% flat. Looks like a mixture of the polarizer and Hewitt special

Had some issues with the order and after fixing it they hooked me up with a dvd and some goodies.

(https://i.ibb.co/CWy33g5/Track-NField.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CWy33g5)
please rip the dvd and put it up on youtube. do it for the pals...

cant be found anywhere
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: intendedreceivers on November 12, 2022, 08:51:00 AM
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Nah and no response when I’ve asked and they’ve never uploaded it. I’m tempted to rip it for my own records though and if I do I can share it with you hotdogs.
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please do! also curious if there is a good trick for getting trucks mounted centered and square?

If you’re looking for an alternative method, this worked for me:

Run a thin piece of masking tape down the center of the board and then draw a fine line down the center of the tape.

Also write “front” and “back” on the bottom of the baseplates to avoid future confusion.

Mark 3.5 in. from each end (or whatever you want your nose/tail length to be).

Set the pivot side of the baseplate on the mark, then carefully line up the baseplate straight and centered using the holes and centerline to guide you.

Hold the baseplate down against the tape with a finger and use an awl to poke small divots into the board through the baseplate holes.

Remove tape, drill pilot holes through the divots you made, apply stickers if desired, and mount trucks.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on November 12, 2022, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: thanksgiving
please rip the dvd and put it up on youtube. do it for the pals...

cant be found anywhere
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on November 13, 2022, 03:25:25 PM
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Post by: cucktard on November 13, 2022, 06:59:28 PM
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Thank you kindly
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 13, 2022, 07:04:52 PM
That was so sick.  Even better than I could’ve hoped it would be.  Tunes are insanely good.  Neil is by far my favorite skater ever, he kills it in this.  Really stoked you shared this, THW is the best.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 13, 2022, 07:44:03 PM
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Many thanks.
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Post by: thanksgiving on November 13, 2022, 09:05:34 PM
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would gnar if i could. thanks for this.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 14, 2022, 06:01:01 AM
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gnar'd thank you
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: ok boomer on November 14, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
very polarizing thread
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Post by: biaherl on November 14, 2022, 12:02:14 PM
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BGP's!!!

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Crusty Grundle on November 17, 2022, 01:12:48 PM
Here's my "plagiarizer". Lots of fun and real squirely at top speed!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Bo Turners Masonic Fish on November 23, 2022, 02:39:26 PM
Anyone drill their board/suregrips for standard skate hardware? What kind of bit(s) are you using?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ray C. Usery on November 23, 2022, 03:09:29 PM
Anyone drill their board/suregrips for standard skate hardware? What kind of bit(s) are you using?

If I were to do that I would start with a 3/16 drill bit. I've done it before with #8x32 machine screws, the holes in my sure grips were too close to the edge to hog them out for a bigger screw like standard hardware (#10x32)


I weigh 240lb's and use #6 sheet meatal screws nowadays
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on November 23, 2022, 09:56:14 PM
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Anyone drill their board/suregrips for standard skate hardware? What kind of bit(s) are you using?
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If I were to do that I would start with a 3/16 drill bit. I've done it before with #8x32 machine screws, the holes in my sure grips were too close to the edge to hog them out for a bigger screw like standard hardware (#10x32)


I weigh 240lb's and use #6 sheet meatal screws nowadays
i believe ive seen a thin piece of metal, used like a baseplate between the trucks and deck to avoid damaging the trucks redrilling for different hardware.(and swapping different hole patterns between trucks)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on November 24, 2022, 05:07:37 AM
I took a dremel to my sure grips, carving out some of the baseplate material so a nut could fit flush on the surface
(https://i.ibb.co/jzBLV86/E1-C759-E1-7350-43-B8-841-B-4-DE22528-C88-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jzBLV86)

I forget exactly what size hardware I bought but it fit in the existing baseplates without boring it out.

I did a dry fit with the trucks, marked one corner and drilled through the deck, then fixed the truck on with one bolt and drilled the other three holes through the baseplate as a jig. I’m sure screws work fine but I wanted to bolt it on.

I’m gonna get a set of the heated wheel trucks when they ever come out and screw em on with polarizer hardware to my track n field.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on November 26, 2022, 01:18:36 AM
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Awesome thanks!

Polarizers have been my obsession for the past 2 years. I started out building my own then bought a couple from HW when they were available. A tip for those of you who ride Sure Grip peanut trucks, look for 'Harry's stud' it is a replacement for the traditional kingpin. Right now I am putting together a peanut baseplate / Harry's stud / Sure Grip Avanti magnesium hanger. The Avanti hanger has an adjustable ball pivot that sits in a nylon cup so it might be a really sweet turning truck. Bones soft bushings of course.
 
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: 256 Ply on December 02, 2022, 11:36:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5688zmo.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on December 02, 2022, 11:53:04 AM
Having a kingpin nut is dumb, and having a slot head kingpin is even dumber.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: 256 Ply on December 02, 2022, 12:14:15 PM
If you can find a Gold Cup complete (it was the NHS version of the Penny board, designed by Lance Mountain), the stock trucks would be the most modern truck that look aesthetically like vintage trucks. Normal kingpin and locknut and the jam nut is molded into the baseplate just for looks.

They came out about 10 years ago.

(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-07.jpg)
(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-01.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on December 02, 2022, 12:21:23 PM
Yes. Why didn't they come out with something like that?

With the slotted head you'll have to find something wider than your normal bog-standard screwdriver; and a spanner for the lower nut. You could try an Elephant tool from the 70s, but the nut might not be the correct size, and you'll need 2 if you want to adjust the nut and kingpin at the same time.

Elephant tool on Ebay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/403793796321?hash=item5e03fc5ce1:g:lqkAAOSwOh5i3Gn0&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDF8HCL%2BKQ1NbnOef3czpOKtvPDr1t6eLoaOsaTHSXFjGEhGEINUsRhmEny1XPgDQ10LYPdeUvn2QefoWKWzmxkqAI7SpkZPOHQBwHmvOYFOu%2BBu44ud9zSdSCvA7wgGXvHVZwMbUWDdFW3d9otHZzUp9iKgVu63fhEruzvXeQ0Aicfb5uJSPEw%2BN9VV%2ByD8b8eFVrF9AhRVhwQIwa7R%2Bf0%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_iTp8eaYQ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/403793796321?hash=item5e03fc5ce1:g:lqkAAOSwOh5i3Gn0&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDF8HCL%2BKQ1NbnOef3czpOKtvPDr1t6eLoaOsaTHSXFjGEhGEINUsRhmEny1XPgDQ10LYPdeUvn2QefoWKWzmxkqAI7SpkZPOHQBwHmvOYFOu%2BBu44ud9zSdSCvA7wgGXvHVZwMbUWDdFW3d9otHZzUp9iKgVu63fhEruzvXeQ0Aicfb5uJSPEw%2BN9VV%2ByD8b8eFVrF9AhRVhwQIwa7R%2Bf0%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_iTp8eaYQ)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 02, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5688zmo.jpg)
thank u for the leak. spring 23 prebook?

not sure how i feel about the baseplate shape... also to add on the stupidity they should have holes for standard skate hardware!!!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 02, 2022, 03:22:26 PM
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Awesome thanks!

Polarizers have been my obsession for the past 2 years. I started out building my own then bought a couple from HW when they were available. A tip for those of you who ride Sure Grip peanut trucks, look for 'Harry's stud' it is a replacement for the traditional kingpin. Right now I am putting together a peanut baseplate / Harry's stud / Sure Grip Avanti magnesium hanger. The Avanti hanger has an adjustable ball pivot that sits in a nylon cup so it might be a really sweet turning truck. Bones soft bushings of course.
update on this build?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on December 06, 2022, 03:36:07 AM
HW trucks look cool, thanks for sharing. But there will be kingpin slop and seized up kingpins. A variation that works is the way Powerdyne do it (check out the Reactor neo/pro and the older Rival), adjusting the truck by turning the kingpin is asking for trouble.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on December 06, 2022, 03:38:58 AM
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Awesome thanks!

Polarizers have been my obsession for the past 2 years. I started out building my own then bought a couple from HW when they were available. A tip for those of you who ride Sure Grip peanut trucks, look for 'Harry's stud' it is a replacement for the traditional kingpin. Right now I am putting together a peanut baseplate / Harry's stud / Sure Grip Avanti magnesium hanger. The Avanti hanger has an adjustable ball pivot that sits in a nylon cup so it might be a really sweet turning truck. Bones soft bushings of course.
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update on this build?

Still waiting on the base plates, will post when done!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on December 06, 2022, 06:13:51 AM
So bummed there’s no kingpin clearance.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: postmodernpain on December 08, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
For anyone interested, THW Trucks are showing up on the site for sale.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on December 08, 2022, 11:01:33 AM
For anyone interested, THW Trucks are showing up on the site for sale.

Unique bushings? or are they just soft indys? interested in how they perform
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 08, 2022, 01:15:59 PM
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For anyone interested, THW Trucks are showing up on the site for sale.
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Unique bushings? or are they just soft indys? interested in how they perform
i would assume they are ace bushings. to be honest i thought these would be more than $54. i’ll have to give them a shot

edit: 42USD TO SHIP A PAIR TO CANADA????
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on December 09, 2022, 05:46:04 AM
If you can find a Gold Cup complete (it was the NHS version of the Penny board, designed by Lance Mountain), the stock trucks would be the most modern truck that look aesthetically like vintage trucks. Normal kingpin and locknut and the jam nut is molded into the baseplate just for looks.

They came out about 10 years ago.

(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-07.jpg)
(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-01.jpg)
I had one of these and the trucks sucked. They turned way worse than a penny board. I swapped bushings and loosened them and they still sucked.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: layzieyez on December 09, 2022, 09:25:47 AM
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If you can find a Gold Cup complete (it was the NHS version of the Penny board, designed by Lance Mountain), the stock trucks would be the most modern truck that look aesthetically like vintage trucks. Normal kingpin and locknut and the jam nut is molded into the baseplate just for looks.

They came out about 10 years ago.

(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-07.jpg)
(http://www.goldcupskateboards.com/images/slide-01.jpg)
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I had one of these and the trucks sucked. They turned way worse than a penny board. I swapped bushings and loosened them and they still sucked.
Thanks for saving me so much time.

I will probably just buy those heated wheel trucks. They look pretty much like the ones I had on my fiberglass banana board that really was the start of my riding this wonderful toy.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on December 09, 2022, 09:37:44 AM
I need to ride my polarizer more. I have so much fun on it. I think i need to search out some polarizer specific spots.

I could always take it to landsdowne, that would probably be sick.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: lulz on December 11, 2022, 03:39:35 PM
Super stoked on these.
(https://i.ibb.co/ncfBkp1/DD2-EC477-8275-4510-9-DFF-5-C42-F4699-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ncfBkp1)

And they’re out!

(https://i.ibb.co/sF7xvXC/1485-DE03-A291-4-A16-9-BC8-E6-EF2-A02992-E.png) (https://ibb.co/sF7xvXC)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on December 11, 2022, 05:22:14 PM
Anyone planning on snagging?  Would love to hear how these ride… swear I’m gonna make a Polarizer soon… and these have been on my wishlist since rumors of their existence emerged.  Some of the comments about possible design flaws give me pause - I’m new to the genre so I don’t understand exactly what those potential weaknesses would impact - curious to read reviews!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 11, 2022, 05:45:00 PM
Anyone planning on snagging?  Would love to hear how these ride… swear I’m gonna make a Polarizer soon… and these have been on my wishlist since rumors of their existence emerged.  Some of the comments about possible design flaws give me pause - I’m new to the genre so I don’t understand exactly what those potential weaknesses would impact - curious to read reviews!
i dont think its that there are weaknesses, they just chose to keep them with vintage specs, like the sure grip trucks most people use, when if they had modern design(kingpins, hardware size, etc) it would have made polarizers much more approachable for new people. (although part of why i love polarizers of the barrier of entry- gives them some standing over "cool penny board bro" ;))

i would buy these if it wasnt over $40usd to ship them to canada. once a shop here gets a pair ill snag em
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Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on December 11, 2022, 06:37:20 PM
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Anyone planning on snagging?  Would love to hear how these ride… swear I’m gonna make a Polarizer soon… and these have been on my wishlist since rumors of their existence emerged.  Some of the comments about possible design flaws give me pause - I’m new to the genre so I don’t understand exactly what those potential weaknesses would impact - curious to read reviews!
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i dont think its that there are weaknesses, they just chose to keep them with vintage specs, like the sure grip trucks most people use, when if they had modern design(kingpins, hardware size, etc) it would have made polarizers much more approachable for new people. (although part of why i love polarizers of the barrier of entry- gives them some standing over "cool penny board bro" ;))

i would buy these if it wasnt over $40usd to ship them to canada. once a shop here gets a pair ill snag em

Thanks for filling me in, that makes sense!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on December 12, 2022, 04:26:24 AM
I'd argue the slotted kingpin is the main issue I have with them. You need to have a tool to able to tighten the bolt, and it's a pain if you don't have anything applicable lying around. A hex head is far easier. Though you can swap out for a hex head at a local hardware store.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 12, 2022, 05:42:34 PM
i sent a dm to canadian dist for heated wheel, they said they are not planning on getting polarizer trucks in  :-[
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: munchbox on December 14, 2022, 09:53:41 PM
polarizer deck for $43
https://thedrop.com/skate/decks/the-heated-wheel-polarizer-jacklyn-deck/?gclid=CjwKCAiAheacBhB8EiwAItVO283-MlzwprzTMb0DGKOm-oWj7PDipuN7RYqyCn-_nd6YtoG4gE_Z6hoCF5kQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on December 16, 2022, 06:57:11 PM
I got my trucks in today and first take is pretty solid.

Fits regular hardware and the kingpin adjusts just fine with a regular flat head screwdriver. The bushings feel pretty soft, probably 78-82a and overall I’m really impressed with the build and aesthetic of the trucks in hand. No need for additional washers inside the wheels to push them out. Its almost as if blender spent years dialing in roller skate trucks then manufactured a set that hits all the marks right out of the box.
Hopefully it dries out this weekend and I can give them a ride on the track n field.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on December 19, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uM1LNLu.jpg)

"Lefty"'s bushing set-up for the Heated Wheel trucks.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on December 19, 2022, 06:32:08 PM
Nice I run bont 78a bushings on my sure grips

George Vallore recommended them earlier in the thread and they’re real nice.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on December 27, 2022, 09:16:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TaiXmsK.jpg)

You can now get the trucks in white it seems.

And the trucks have a 4.6" axle which is slightly wider than the ACS 430s that I use (don't know the axle width of the Sure Grips). Not sure they're worth me spending money on them though.

edit: Offset Skate Supply says the Sure Grip axle is 4.125" - https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/sure-grip-century-trucks/ (https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/sure-grip-century-trucks/)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on December 28, 2022, 09:09:33 AM
anyone get a chance to use the trucks yet!?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on January 02, 2023, 10:25:38 PM
Damn, $36.99 for Heated Wheel trucks sounds like a pretty good deal

https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/the-heated-wheel-skateboards-polarizer-polished-mini-trucks-set-of-2-4.5-axle-set-of-2

Also can get additional 10 percent off with promo code SK8FOR10
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: intendedreceivers on January 03, 2023, 05:39:01 AM
I gotta say thank you to whomever suggested the Powerdyne bushings for the Sure Grip Peanuts. The Bones softs felt like dogshit in comparison. Night and day.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Neil on January 03, 2023, 09:19:36 AM
Damn, $36.99 for Heated Wheel trucks sounds like a pretty good deal

https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/the-heated-wheel-skateboards-polarizer-polished-mini-trucks-set-of-2-4.5-axle-set-of-2

Also can get additional 10 percent off with promo code SK8FOR10

Love the recycled copy:

"The Heated Wheel skateboard trucks are known for being some of the most reliable trucks on the market, and won't let you down. The Heated Wheel Skateboards Polarizer Polished Mini Trucks (Set of 2) 4.5" Axle guarantees a stellar ride, provided you're a stellar rider."
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: AlSharpton on January 17, 2023, 02:05:25 PM
I got my trucks in today and first take is pretty solid.

Fits regular hardware and the kingpin adjusts just fine with a regular flat head screwdriver. The bushings feel pretty soft, probably 78-82a and overall I’m really impressed with the build and aesthetic of the trucks in hand. No need for additional washers inside the wheels to push them out. Its almost as if blender spent years dialing in roller skate trucks then manufactured a set that hits all the marks right out of the box.
Hopefully it dries out this weekend and I can give them a ride on the track n field.

Have you tried to different wheels? I like the rough riders but it would be cool to experiment with other wheels in these trucks if they’d accommodate more variety. 
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on January 29, 2023, 05:49:08 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/3Nmpffz/3121-A923-57-F7-4-DA7-97-C3-3-E67-F89-D50-BA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Nmpffz)

Track n field polarizer trucks and hardware
Bones Swiss and acid pods

This thing fucks. Super fun steep deep carves
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on January 29, 2023, 05:55:05 AM
I gotta say thank you to whomever suggested the Powerdyne bushings for the Sure Grip Peanuts. The Bones softs felt like dogshit in comparison. Night and day.


Hop up kits are the fuckin' biz.  Had mine in my polarizer for 5 years, love em.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on February 26, 2023, 03:35:42 PM
new drop on the site- what do you think about the boards coming pre-drilled now? as much as i hate to admit it, i liked the gatekeepy aspect of needing to actually put some work in to get the setup going. not to mention its less customizable now.

anyone have feedback on the trucks yet?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on February 26, 2023, 03:39:48 PM
Looks like there is still an undrilled “traditional polarizer” offered on the site
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on February 26, 2023, 07:16:27 PM
new drop on the site- what do you think about the boards coming pre-drilled now? as much as i hate to admit it, i liked the gatekeepy aspect of needing to actually put some work in to get the setup going. not to mention its less customizable now.

anyone have feedback on the trucks yet?
I have the trucks and they’re awesome. Real steep squirrely turn. Basically perfect out of the box, you’re benefiting from blenders madness over years of dialing in roller skates.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on February 28, 2023, 12:32:58 AM
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new drop on the site- what do you think about the boards coming pre-drilled now? as much as i hate to admit it, i liked the gatekeepy aspect of needing to actually put some work in to get the setup going. not to mention its less customizable now.

anyone have feedback on the trucks yet?
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I have the trucks and they’re awesome. Real steep squirrely turn. Basically perfect out of the box, you’re benefiting from blenders madness over years of dialing in roller skates.
how do they compare to peanut sure grips? worth a 54 buck upgrade?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on February 28, 2023, 06:59:03 AM
yeah they're worth the $54

figure peanuts are $40 and you gotta put at least $10 of bushings into them. I haven't touched my polarizer with sure grips since I set up the new trucks on the track n field
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on February 28, 2023, 09:53:01 AM
yeah they're worth the $54

figure peanuts are $40 and you gotta put at least $10 of bushings into them. I haven't touched my polarizer with sure grips since I set up the new trucks on the track n field

And how does the Track and Field compare to the normal polarizer? It's flat, so there's a bit more flex?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on February 28, 2023, 11:37:02 AM
yeah it does have a bit more flex

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 05, 2023, 12:14:13 AM
i know discussion seems to have shifted to the new heated wheel thread, but want to put this here for archival purposes. this is an instant buy once in canada.

https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/polarizers/products/fiber-rider-polarizer
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0607/3575/0392/files/FIBER_RIDER_INFO_WEB_1088x864.jpg?v=1683077396)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 05, 2023, 12:44:41 AM
I wish it had been 27". Seems expensive for a plain fibreglass deck when you can pick up old 70s ones off Ebay for much less.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on May 05, 2023, 07:02:56 AM
Been talking my dog out for walks while on the polarizer lately, so damn fun and he loves it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 05, 2023, 06:50:13 PM
Dammit I don’t need a fiber rider… or do I? DO I?!?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 05, 2023, 07:56:12 PM
I wish it had been 27". Seems expensive for a plain fibreglass deck when you can pick up old 70s ones off Ebay for much less.
ive handled a few of those mpi ones when i was working at a shop and got a bunch of fiberglass slivers and vowed never to touch them again. i also like giving neil my money
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ray C. Usery on May 05, 2023, 08:01:36 PM
Dammit I don’t need a fiber rider… or do I? DO I?!?

Same way I feel about the bank mauler
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 06, 2023, 03:01:12 AM
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I wish it had been 27". Seems expensive for a plain fibreglass deck when you can pick up old 70s ones off Ebay for much less.
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ive handled a few of those mpi ones when i was working at a shop and got a bunch of fiberglass slivers and vowed never to touch them again. i also like giving neil my money

I had one of those MPI laminated fibreglass decks, and yes, not that great. No flex for me (11 st).

I've got one of these plain 70s fibreglass decks, and also have a PS Stix Polarizer (with the reversed logo screening), which I've not set up, as I prefer the flex on the 70s deck; more flex than the Polarizer.

(https://i.imgur.com/ceYM3M9.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 06, 2023, 05:34:48 AM
Woa, that fiber rider looks cool.

Kinda wanna try the heated wheel trucks too.

Spending money on silly setups that I don't ride much is a curse I will never be free from

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 13, 2023, 08:24:41 AM
My track n field is warped

(https://i.ibb.co/vk5ymW5/IMG-5636.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vk5ymW5)

It had a slight warp when I set it up but it’s gotten so much worse. Tried leaving it under 100lbs of weight on a table saw for a month or so in the winter but didn’t change much.
Don’t notice it at all when riding but probably going to use this to justify a fiber rider  ;D ;D
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Thebird on May 15, 2023, 08:49:43 AM
Ok, I'm late to the party here.  What kind/size wheels do I want for one of the polarizers with the Heated Wheel trucks?  Thanks all.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 15, 2023, 12:32:51 PM
56mm Bones Rough Riders are the standard

Any soft, medium sized wheel works fine, but you may have to tweak it with spacers to keep some shapes of wheels from rubbing the trucks

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 15, 2023, 05:07:33 PM
My track n field is warped

(https://i.ibb.co/vk5ymW5/IMG-5636.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vk5ymW5)

It had a slight warp when I set it up but it’s gotten so much worse. Tried leaving it under 100lbs of weight on a table saw for a month or so in the winter but didn’t change much.
Don’t notice it at all when riding but probably going to use this to justify a fiber rider  ;D ;D
Damn, maybe email those dudes bout that, maybe they will send you a replacement
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Thebird on May 15, 2023, 07:31:21 PM
56mm Bones Rough Riders are the standard

Any soft, medium sized wheel works fine, but you may have to tweak it with spacers to keep some shapes of wheels from rubbing the trucks

Thank you.  Still trying to figure out thepieces I want.  Another question, so it looks like the hardware is just screws to screw the trucks to the deck.  Is that correct?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 16, 2023, 03:00:56 AM
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56mm Bones Rough Riders are the standard

Any soft, medium sized wheel works fine, but you may have to tweak it with spacers to keep some shapes of wheels from rubbing the trucks
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Thank you.  Still trying to figure out thepieces I want.  Another question, so it looks like the hardware is just screws to screw the trucks to the deck.  Is that correct?

If I’m not mistaken, the Heated Wheel trucks take standard hardware. If you’re using Sure Grip trucks, those attach with wood screws.

Also, if you can’t find Rough Riders in stock, OJ Mini Juice are a nice choice for these setups. I use three washers on the inside of each wheel.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Thebird on May 16, 2023, 12:23:50 PM
Good to know.  Thank you for the help!  I thought they used the wood screws because it looked like the HW hardware was wood screws.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 17, 2023, 02:21:05 AM
Good to know.  Thank you for the help!  I thought they used the wood screws because it looked like the HW hardware was wood screws.

You’re right, the Heated Wheel branded hardware is a pack of wood screws. But, those are for use with Sure Grip or other rollerskate style trucks. But, I believe the Heated Wheel trucks are designed to be mounted with conventional skateboard hardware.

I use the HW wood screws and Sure Grip combo on a traditional Polarizer, but someone else on here can probably verify which hardware the HW branded trucks use, since I haven’t had any experience with them.

The Heated Wheel now sells the pre-drilled version of the deck that works with their trucks and a non-drilled (traditional) version that works with rollerskate trucks.

Looking forward to seeing your setup and hearing how you enjoy polarizing!  Glad to see interest in this niche growing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 17, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/3mRDwHx/IMG-5859.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3mRDwHx)

My lil shitty skatepark is essentially nothing but various banks and a clamshell.

I can confirm: This fucker mauls banks.

Recommend.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 17, 2023, 08:47:54 AM

My lil shitty skatepark is essentially nothing but various banks and a clamshell.
I can confirm: This fucker mauls banks.
Recommend.

Is there any flex to it?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on May 17, 2023, 09:38:38 AM
Bank Mauler looks like it could be a fun ride.  How does it compare to the feeling of a Polarizer vs. a “normal” board?

Never messed with Ace 00’s - or roller skate trucks to be honest - I keep hearing the latter are tricky to get the hang of and I’m a bigger person so it’s kept me away somewhat… but I’m interested in trying a setup of one or both at some point soon.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 17, 2023, 07:08:05 PM
Bones 59mm ATF Skate Aid wheels are also really good ones. You can still use wood screws with Heated Wheel trucks if you don’t feel like drilling out board for regular hardware. I have heard that Heated Wheel trucks turn really good, FYI. The Fiber Rider looks pretty rad, need to get a report from someone that buys one
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 18, 2023, 03:25:21 AM
No real flex to the Bank Mauler.

It's a "tradtional" board. Mild concave from truck to truck. About 8 1/4 at widest point.

NO TAIL. Your back foot fits right in this nice "pocket" over the back truck. Lots of back foot control.

With the Aces, it's super carvy.

I've been calling it a "skatepark cruiser" if that makes sense. You smack bank walls with the carves of a polarizer but nowhere near as squirrel-y. It's FUN.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 18, 2023, 01:22:26 PM
I just bought some old Acs 430 trucks, but the pivot cups are missing. What pivot cups should I buy that will fît in? I read that Riptide are good but what models as they have many shapes?
What about Sure grip cup?

About bushings, can I put bones bushing on the 430?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 18, 2023, 02:28:45 PM
I just bought some old Acs 430 trucks, but the pivot cups are missing. What pivot cups should I buy that will fît in? I read that Riptide are good but what models as they have many shapes?
What about Sure grip cup?

About bushings, can I put bones bushing on the 430?

I had ACS430 pivot cup issues, and man oh man are finding replacements a total pain. SG pivot cups don't fit the hole and the hanger pivot arm is a bit too fat for them.

I tried riptide replacements as well, no dice. It stunk.

I would look on ebay, honestly.

if you put bones bushings on a 430, you have to use 4 BOTTOM bushings-the taller ones. otherwise, no dice on the geometry.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 18, 2023, 02:49:08 PM
Thanks for the answer!

Yes four Bones bottom bushing is what I was planning on doing!

So there is no pivot cup that will fit the 430? What about ACS 500 pivot cup? I have some at home.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 18, 2023, 02:56:19 PM
Get different trucks those are gonna be a pain in the ass
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 18, 2023, 08:09:41 PM
My homie sent me this awhile back & I posted it here maybe, can’t remember but here it is again https://vimeo.com/508239918 (https://vimeo.com/508239918)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 19, 2023, 12:41:05 AM
ace 00 afaik are supposed to one of the worst options for that size, with penny trucks surprisingly being the best!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 19, 2023, 12:42:58 AM
I just bought some old Acs 430 trucks, but the pivot cups are missing. What pivot cups should I buy that will fît in? I read that Riptide are good but what models as they have many shapes?
What about Sure grip cup?

About bushings, can I put bones bushing on the 430?

I've got ACS 430s. They're on the board posted above. I'm using Tracker small-pivot "Haftrack" pivot cups from the 70s. They're hard and work great. You can get them on Ebay. And for bushings I'm using standard Khiro, Independent bushings with flat washers.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on May 19, 2023, 12:49:06 AM
My homie sent me this awhile back & I posted it here maybe, can’t remember but here it is again https://vimeo.com/508239918 (https://vimeo.com/508239918)

Incase you missed it

Uploaded here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=70334.msg3899980#msg3899980
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 19, 2023, 02:53:25 AM
Get different trucks those are gonna be a pain in the ass

I can second this through experience.

Ultimately really, the Heated Wheel polarizer trucks are WAY more bang for your buck all around. Functionality, replacement parts, etc. And ride really, really well.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 19, 2023, 01:02:39 PM
Alright thanks a lot for the advices!

Better get the Heated Wheels than the Sure grip trucks?!

Do you need to add some Bones soft bushing on the Heated Wheels trucks or they are great as they are?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 19, 2023, 02:27:52 PM
Alright thanks a lot for the advices!

Better get the Heated Wheels than the Sure grip trucks?!

Do you need to add some Bones soft bushing on the Heated Wheels trucks or they are great as they are?

Depends on the deck, imo. If you’re buying the Polarizer deck that’s pre-drilled, I’d go with the Heated Wheel trucks. 

Personally, I have the traditional (non-drilled) version with Sure-Grip trucks (bushings swapped out for Bones soft bottoms). I like how squirrelly it is and I like that I was able to determine my own wheelbase.

The pre-drilled/HW truck option is definitely the easier route, but I haven’t ridden out a setup like that so I can’t speak to how it handles compared to the traditional setup.

I think it’s cool that Blender offers both options.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 19, 2023, 03:24:37 PM
I checked eBay for the Haftrack pivot cup but they sell bags of 50 of them, and I’m in France, with shipping and taxes that would be very expensive for 2 pivot cup unfortunately…

I’m planning on getting a non drilled HW board so I could go either for the HW trucks or the Sure Grip!

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to answer my questions, it is very helpful!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on May 20, 2023, 12:29:16 AM
I checked eBay for the Haftrack pivot cup but they sell bags of 50 of them, and I’m in France, with shipping and taxes that would be very expensive for 2 pivot cup unfortunately…

I’m planning on getting a non drilled HW board so I could go either for the HW trucks or the Sure Grip!

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to answer my questions, it is very helpful!

I started out on Sure Grip a couple of years ago and they are great. They are a pain to set up and will develop kingpin slop BUT if you get Harrys Stud kingpins all that is resolved (justcool.se sells them). The HW trucks are just as good and a bit more 'turny' but of course the stock bushings suck and so does the pivot cups. Right now I am running the HW trucks with Sure Grip rubber pivot cups and yellow Powerdyne bushings, it works but I might make my own nylon pivot cups. Good luck!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: tuesday on May 20, 2023, 12:48:00 AM
Saw the above video and was wondering how wobbly these narrow trucks are? How fast do you get speed wobbles?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 20, 2023, 01:23:03 AM
I checked eBay for the Haftrack pivot cup but they sell bags of 50 of them, and I’m in France, with shipping and taxes that would be very expensive for 2 pivot cup unfortunately…

A couple of people on Ebay in the UK sell them.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 20, 2023, 07:57:59 AM
You are correct, found the seller in the Uk!

I asked Neil Blender about the Acs 430 pivot on Instagram, he just replied to me:

« Sure grip pivot inserts will work, the cheap ones black rubber. Sin City rollerskate shop in kernel Mesa should have some,if not try a dude on e bay w the handle skating2fast, ACS 430’s are pretty cool you may have to get axle sleeves that will convert those axles so reg 8 mm bearings will fit, that dude on eBay has some. They slip over the threads. »
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 20, 2023, 09:29:47 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsWNyUQLsp6/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 20, 2023, 11:46:49 AM
"fall ride"
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: The real veganshawn on May 20, 2023, 08:13:47 PM
What size riser pads are y'all using ?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 20, 2023, 11:38:47 PM
"fall ride"

Nicely done sir. Would gnar.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on May 21, 2023, 12:05:54 AM
You are correct, found the seller in the Uk!

I asked Neil Blender about the Acs 430 pivot on Instagram, he just replied to me:

« Sure grip pivot inserts will work, the cheap ones black rubber. Sin City rollerskate shop in kernel Mesa should have some,if not try a dude on e bay w the handle skating2fast, ACS 430’s are pretty cool you may have to get axle sleeves that will convert those axles so reg 8 mm bearings will fit, that dude on eBay has some. They slip over the threads. »

Sleeves are not neccesary just get 7mm bearings, Bones make some and others too. If you are in Europe check out justcool.se rollerskate section.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 21, 2023, 01:20:19 AM
I'm using normal bearings on my ACS 430s. No issues.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on May 21, 2023, 06:26:37 AM
What size riser pads are y'all using ?

None.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 21, 2023, 08:54:44 PM
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What size riser pads are y'all using ?
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None.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 22, 2023, 05:23:09 AM
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What size riser pads are y'all using ?
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None.
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Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: The real veganshawn on May 22, 2023, 06:58:03 AM
Good to know
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 22, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/khzDJk6/IMG-4050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/khzDJk6)(https://i.ibb.co/c62KzC1/IMG-4051.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c62KzC1)(https://i.ibb.co/qgwMhfz/IMG-4052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgwMhfz)

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 22, 2023, 12:31:34 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/khzDJk6/IMG-4050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/khzDJk6)(https://i.ibb.co/c62KzC1/IMG-4051.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c62KzC1)(https://i.ibb.co/qgwMhfz/IMG-4052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgwMhfz)

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

No, but they look great. Perfect for a Polarizer.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 22, 2023, 12:50:08 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/khzDJk6/IMG-4050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/khzDJk6)(https://i.ibb.co/c62KzC1/IMG-4051.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c62KzC1)(https://i.ibb.co/qgwMhfz/IMG-4052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgwMhfz)

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

dang, some real relics.

super cool.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 22, 2023, 12:54:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/khzDJk6/IMG-4050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/khzDJk6)(https://i.ibb.co/c62KzC1/IMG-4051.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c62KzC1)(https://i.ibb.co/qgwMhfz/IMG-4052.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgwMhfz)

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

If you could stick them on Ebay UK you'd make some decent money for those.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 22, 2023, 01:09:04 PM
I’m still talking with the seller on a french second hand site, he still has to find the box in his warehouse but says there are some Vulcan Morris left. The listing and prices are also in the box
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 22, 2023, 01:14:24 PM
He has also those trucks in the add, can’t find any informations about them…

(https://i.ibb.co/fn0wKYJ/IMG-4055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fn0wKYJ)(https://i.ibb.co/3RrMBwD/IMG-4056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3RrMBwD)(https://i.ibb.co/k6sXjJ2/IMG-4057.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6sXjJ2)(https://i.ibb.co/M5v9K8R/IMG-4059.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M5v9K8R)(https://i.ibb.co/ngvGBP2/IMG-4060.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngvGBP2)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 22, 2023, 01:22:45 PM
I’m still talking with the seller on a french second hand site, he still has to find the box in his warehouse but says there are some Vulcan Morris left. The listing and prices are also in the box

I'd stick with the ACS 430s, if I was you. Those Morris Vulcan have a very small pivot, which might break, and the soft 70s pivots will wear out in a couple of hours, and you'll never be able to find replacements. Also has a smaller diameter kingpin bolt than the ACS.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 22, 2023, 01:38:13 PM
Good point!! I’m still waiting to know how much he will ask for them! Going to do one set up with Acs 430 and  also have some HW trucks coming
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on May 22, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
Here's mine set up. Just so you can see that they work. The wheels are Oj 55mm mini-juice.

With an Indy top bushing and an old softer Tracker bushing on the bottom. I've got a pair of orange 79a Khiros on the front.

(https://i.imgur.com/QDrDFt7.jpg)

The Tracker haf-track pivot fits in the baseplate fine (normal Indy type ones are too big). Slight play with the ACS pivot, but you don't notice it when the trucks are tightened.

(https://i.imgur.com/NpprL98.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 22, 2023, 02:46:26 PM
Thanks man! I have a G&S Fiberflex with Acs 500 on it and i like it very much! I’m sure i will manage to dial the 430! I wanted to buy some Sure Grip but i can only find them in the UK, and between the shipping cost and taxes to send to France, i went for the HW trucks and ordered two packs of Powerdyne yellow bushing and some Bones med for the bottom back trucks
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 23, 2023, 04:58:38 AM
Anyone running a Peter Hewitt specials? What WB do you have?

The Fiber rider wheelbase is 13 5/8" measured bolt to bolt, and I'm used to my polarizer at 16".. Wondering how different this board will be. Probably an even tighter turn which sounds fun with the flex
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 23, 2023, 05:29:29 AM
Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on May 23, 2023, 06:09:38 AM
Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 23, 2023, 06:16:46 AM
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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.
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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.

What pivot cups did you use?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on May 23, 2023, 07:00:25 AM
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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.
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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.
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What pivot cups did you use?

Sure Grip soft rubber ones, not the harder rubber cups that come on their skate trucks (too tight). 
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 23, 2023, 07:12:06 AM
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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.
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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.
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What pivot cups did you use?
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Sure Grip soft rubber ones, not the harder rubber cups that come on their skate trucks (too tight).

thanks man
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on May 23, 2023, 07:23:00 AM
Polarizing, where the madness flows freely and all drinketh from her overflowing cup.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 23, 2023, 09:46:49 AM
Any of y’all in the Raleigh, NC area? I’d be down for a meet-up. Go for a cruise downtown on our Polarizers and get some beers afterwards?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 23, 2023, 09:51:42 AM
Any of y’all in the Raleigh, NC area? I’d be down for a meet-up. Go for a cruise downtown on our Polarizers and get some beers afterwards?

man, i wish i was.

skateboarding then beer?

you are speaking my language.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on May 25, 2023, 01:55:18 PM
Hewitt on the Fiber Rider is mesmerizing.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cspe4UGJWsI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 25, 2023, 02:05:27 PM
Hewitt on the Fiber Rider is mesmerizing.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cspe4UGJWsI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Welp, that looks like about the most fun you could possibly have on a skateboard
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on May 25, 2023, 03:38:22 PM
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Hewitt on the Fiber Rider is mesmerizing.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cspe4UGJWsI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Welp, that looks like about the most fun you could possibly have on a skateboard

Awe struck right now.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 25, 2023, 06:22:30 PM
Hewitt on the Fiber Rider is mesmerizing.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cspe4UGJWsI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Damn. Thanks for tossing that up.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 25, 2023, 07:24:11 PM
So rad
Would love to see them flip the cam and get gerwer footage on a polarizer too
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 25, 2023, 11:17:17 PM
Anyone running a Peter Hewitt specials? What WB do you have?

The Fiber rider wheelbase is 13 5/8" measured bolt to bolt, and I'm used to my polarizer at 16".. Wondering how different this board will be. Probably an even tighter turn which sounds fun with the flex
see my setup, first post in the thread. cant quite remember what i set the wb for, but i went longer for more flex  :)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 26, 2023, 12:03:22 PM
I’m selling a BBS version.  $45 plus $5 shipping.  Never been setup, but does have some storage scuffs.  I have the PS Stix version setup and I’m happy with it, don’t really need two of these.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBqwfvy2/IMG-3425.jpg)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295721715259?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cqghW4w2TA6&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=cqghW4w2TA6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 27, 2023, 09:03:00 AM
Dude, really digging the Indy super soft (white) bushings on my polarizer.

Thought I'd never find a use for them haha.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 27, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
Just received my HW deck and trucks and i need some advices: Should i look for larger top washer over the Powerdyne bushings or can i just ride it as it is?

(https://i.ibb.co/d5RXXTf/IMG-4238.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d5RXXTf)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 27, 2023, 01:08:02 PM
Rode my polarizer for the first time in a while today.

Remembered the dude who had one that warped, so out of curiosity I looked at mine.

It was warped the exact same way.

Can we get a quick sanity check for warped polarizers on this thread?

Is everyone's actually warped?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 27, 2023, 01:54:53 PM
Just received my HW deck and trucks and i need some advices: Should i look for larger top washer over the Powerdyne bushings or can i just ride it as it is?

(https://i.ibb.co/d5RXXTf/IMG-4238.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d5RXXTf)
Yeah dude you for sure need a top washer that wraps over the edge of the bushing. Just checked my polarizer, no warping
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 27, 2023, 02:23:09 PM
I tried this but it doesn’t feel right, i will get wheel bites on this large washer…

I’m confused, can you guys who owns the HW trucks show me their bushing configuration using Powerdyne?
(https://i.ibb.co/5LQPfgS/IMG-4245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LQPfgS)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 27, 2023, 03:40:52 PM
I tried this but it doesn’t feel right, i will get wheel bites on this large washer…

I’m confused, can you guys who owns the HW trucks show me their bushing configuration using Powerdyne?
(https://i.ibb.co/5LQPfgS/IMG-4245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LQPfgS)
Shit ok yeah you are right that won’t work, you need a cone shaped top bushing
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 27, 2023, 04:56:50 PM
Just received my HW deck and trucks and i need some advices: Should i look for larger top washer over the Powerdyne bushings or can i just ride it as it is?

(https://i.ibb.co/d5RXXTf/IMG-4238.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d5RXXTf)

I can’t see to be 100% sure but it looks like you’ve got the bushings backwards. Cone would be on top(roadside) and barrel would be on bottom(board side) With the washer on the bottom. Like regular truck bushing combo.

@IpathCats ditch all the washers and sand the barrel down to a conical & use a regular conical top(super softs of course) and it gets sooooo much better. You can get the trucks jiggly loose and turn better than you’d think possible.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 28, 2023, 01:50:57 AM
Yeah i actually only have barrel Powerglyde bushings on hands, trying on front trucks one Powerglyde barrel and HW white bushing on top, and back trucks HW bushing in top and Bones medium on bottom.
I also have some super soft bones bushing at home that i never used, would those be better than the HW’s one for top bushings?
(https://i.ibb.co/4SHJxqv/IMG-4248.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4SHJxqv)(https://i.ibb.co/6vkKNqQ/IMG-4249.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vkKNqQ)copier coller ecriture (https://usefulwebtool.com/fr/clavier-russe)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 28, 2023, 02:19:56 AM
Yeah i actually only have barrel Powerglyde bushings on hands, trying on front trucks one Powerglyde barrel and HW white bushing on top, and back trucks HW bushing in top and Bones medium on bottom.
I also have some super soft bones bushing at home that i never used, would those be better than the HW’s one for top bushings?
(https://i.ibb.co/4SHJxqv/IMG-4248.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4SHJxqv)(https://i.ibb.co/6vkKNqQ/IMG-4249.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vkKNqQ)copier coller ecriture (https://usefulwebtool.com/fr/clavier-russe)

Look into BONT Bushings, ASAP.

They're great.

Powerdyne was the top tier when they did the barrel/cone combo, but they're discontinued atm.

I run
BONT 83A barrel/cone front truck and BONES MED bottom/BONT 83A cone top back truck.


Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 28, 2023, 03:13:31 AM
Alright thanks a lot I just ordered some!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 28, 2023, 04:01:08 AM
Here is what Neil said about bushings:

-NB: “Here’s some bushings that are good. Bones soft: remember to use all bottom ones 14mm, otherwise you bottom the kingpin out.”

“If you need more resistance. Power Dyne Magic cushions “Universal” the yellows work for most people.”

“Bont bushings 78a are good too which are also for roller skates, cone on top barrel on bottom.”

Here’s a shot of mine with Bones soft bottoms all around…

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4m5dnGC/IMG-3430.jpg)

Very surfy!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 28, 2023, 06:31:23 AM
I have Bont 78a on my sure grips. Cones on top and barrels on bottom but I have a spare set so i can try cones all around. I just got some soft sure grip pivot cups to swap out the stock ones too.

My heated wheel trucks are 100% stock and kind perfect if not a little squeaky. Believe someone mentioned the sure grip pivots work in them so I have a spare set if I feel inclined to swap em

@IpathCats the warp doesn’t even bother me on the track n field. What model of yours is warped?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 28, 2023, 11:12:29 AM
I have Bont 78a on my sure grips. Cones on top and barrels on bottom but I have a spare set so i can try cones all around. I just got some soft sure grip pivot cups to swap out the stock ones too.

My heated wheel trucks are 100% stock and kind perfect if not a little squeaky. Believe someone mentioned the sure grip pivots work in them so I have a spare set if I feel inclined to swap em

@IpathCats the warp doesn’t even bother me on the track n field. What model of yours is warped?

The standard black one.

I don't think it bothers me either, didn't even think to look until I saw your post.

Has me curious now though.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 29, 2023, 12:48:53 AM
Alright so on the HW trucks bushings some keep them stock while others change them. I’m still experimenting with different hardness and brands, need to try cones on top and bottom now. I’m still a newby when it comes to bushings and pivot cups on polarizer trucks
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on May 29, 2023, 02:24:01 AM
Rode my polarizer for the first time in a while today.

Remembered the dude who had one that warped, so out of curiosity I looked at mine.
It was warped the exact same way.

Can we get a quick sanity check for warped polarizers on this thread?

Is everyone's actually warped?


Yeah I’ve got a Watson laminates One that’s warped because I left it in my car on a hot day about 4 years ago. Doesn’t affect the ride as it flattens out when I stand on it so all good.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Art Greco on May 29, 2023, 04:34:52 AM
SOLD!

Price drop: $40 plus $5 shipping

I’m selling a BBS version.  $45 plus $5 shipping.  Never been setup, but does have some storage scuffs.  I have the PS Stix version setup and I’m happy with it, don’t really need two of these.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBqwfvy2/IMG-3425.jpg)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295721715259?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cqghW4w2TA6&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=cqghW4w2TA6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 29, 2023, 02:12:17 PM
Here’s a dialed-in Powerdyne setup from back when I put mine together for anyone curious. I think the reds are the soft ones, and they’re great. 100x better than the Bones bushings (w/ Sure-Grip peanuts and 56mm Rough Riders/G-Slides).

(https://i.ibb.co/F6J03NV/3-BEBA004-5-BCA-4-BAB-AC06-44-F3-BAF49-F9-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F6J03NV)

Also wanted to throw these out there, basically a mashup of the OG urethane wheel and the OG precision bearing core. It’s a slim, lightweight shape for a soft wheel. Retro clear colors. I’ve ridden these quite a bit the last few years, mostly on cruiser boards and extra crusty parking lots, but they’re surprisingly fun and would definitely fit the skinny track and vintage vibe of a Polarizer.

https://www.fullcircledistribution.com/products/cadillac-original-56mm-78a (https://www.fullcircledistribution.com/products/cadillac-original-56mm-78a)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on May 29, 2023, 03:14:34 PM
What wheels are the move for the Bank Mauler? 
Bones Rough Riders? 
Phasecasters?   ;D
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on May 29, 2023, 03:43:03 PM
Just nabbed a Bank Mauler myself.  Saw on Neil’s instagram the prototype model was on Powell Skate Aids, but also wondering what is preferred for those who have ridden one before.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 29, 2023, 11:46:15 PM
Been testing my polarizer on bowl this week end and as expected the Rough rider wheel felt slow on smooth concrete, what wheels are you using for bowls and skateparks? Powell dragon formula? I will also change my wb to a shorter one i think.

(https://i.ibb.co/BTPxwbK/A561797-B-CFF6-4335-83-C0-B933403-BF8-D1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BTPxwbK)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 30, 2023, 11:42:58 AM
Ok i finally manged to dial my ACS 430. Got the missing pivot cup from acs roller plates i got online, put a mix of Powerglyde and Bones bushings, short wb on a Peter Hewitt inspired diy cut and i have to say it’s great!! Very nervous set up, and love the acs trucks!
I did shorten the HW wb set up and it is also much better! Still working on the right combo on the HW trucks but i’m getting there! I sand some barrel Powerglyde in cone shape, now waiting for some soft Bont bushing as suggested here to replace the last top HW bushing

(https://i.ibb.co/myRQBC7/IMG-4380.jpg) (https://ibb.co/myRQBC7)(https://i.ibb.co/7rMxY68/IMG-4379.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7rMxY68)(https://i.ibb.co/QP09wPp/IMG-4378.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QP09wPp)(https://i.ibb.co/Tb2fW7N/IMG-4377.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tb2fW7N)



Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on May 30, 2023, 12:31:30 PM
Just nabbed a Bank Mauler myself.  Saw on Neil’s instagram the prototype model was on Powell Skate Aids, but also wondering what is preferred for those who have ridden one before.

Those are just 78a’s in a similar Bones ATF formula to Rough Riders?  56mm?
Setup seems really fuckin cool, just wonder how this thing is meant to be used… as a cruiser?  A crusty banky skatepark set up?  Pump tracks?  Honestly asking because I think I love it but wanna understand what exactly I’d be working with here  ;D
Would it be insane to put dragons on it and make it more of an all-terrain thing?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on May 30, 2023, 01:01:23 PM
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Just nabbed a Bank Mauler myself.  Saw on Neil’s instagram the prototype model was on Powell Skate Aids, but also wondering what is preferred for those who have ridden one before.
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Those are just 78a’s in a similar Bones ATF formula to Rough Riders?  56mm?
Setup seems really fuckin cool, just wonder how this thing is meant to be used… as a cruiser?  A crusty banky skatepark set up?  Pump tracks?  Honestly asking because I think I love it but wanna understand what exactly I’d be working with here  ;D
Would it be insane to put dragons on it and make it more of an all-terrain thing?

I dont think so

I put dragons on my polarizer for a few sessions.

getting little slides on that thing was fun.

might put them on again sometime but im back on the rough riders for now.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on May 30, 2023, 01:19:15 PM
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Just nabbed a Bank Mauler myself.  Saw on Neil’s instagram the prototype model was on Powell Skate Aids, but also wondering what is preferred for those who have ridden one before.
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Those are just 78a’s in a similar Bones ATF formula to Rough Riders?  56mm?
Setup seems really fuckin cool, just wonder how this thing is meant to be used… as a cruiser?  A crusty banky skatepark set up?  Pump tracks?  Honestly asking because I think I love it but wanna understand what exactly I’d be working with here  ;D
Would it be insane to put dragons on it and make it more of an all-terrain thing?
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I dont think so

I put dragons on my polarizer for a few sessions.

getting little slides on that thing was fun.

might put them on again sometime but im back on the rough riders for now.

Word, yeah that sounds fun as hell!

Seems like our boy George blessed us with this description of the product already:

No real flex to the Bank Mauler.

It's a "tradtional" board. Mild concave from truck to truck. About 8 1/4 at widest point.

NO TAIL. Your back foot fits right in this nice "pocket" over the back truck. Lots of back foot control.

With the Aces, it's super carvy.

I've been calling it a "skatepark cruiser" if that makes sense. You smack bank walls with the carves of a polarizer but nowhere near as squirrel-y. It's FUN.

George, you get outside the skatepark yet?  Would love to hear more of your takes on this gizmo, your set up looks amazing, my friend.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on May 30, 2023, 04:34:44 PM
These would probably be fun
 
https://www.speedlabwheels.com/collections/wheels/products/nomads-56mm-97a-grass-stain

Rode someone’s board a few years ago with 97a speedlabs and they were a nice grippy wheel that was still pretty fast
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on May 30, 2023, 08:43:51 PM
skate aids are a 78a rough rider, but no core makes them grippier and softer feeling

stoked to see this thread active again :)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on May 30, 2023, 09:21:36 PM
skate aids are a 78a rough rider, but no core makes them grippier and softer feeling

stoked to see this thread active again :)

So the Skate Aid wheel would maybe be a tad slower, since the RR is cored with a harder durometer?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on May 31, 2023, 12:39:33 AM
Anybody tried the OJ Plain Jane 87a on a polarizer? The Powell Dragon formula seems nice but the idea of silent slides kind of freaks me out…
I have some old Plain Jane 58mm that are around 57mm that l’a going to try!

(https://i.ibb.co/f1jVyWZ/IMG-4396.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f1jVyWZ)(https://i.ibb.co/SssV6dD/IMG-4397.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SssV6dD)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on May 31, 2023, 06:21:53 AM
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skate aids are a 78a rough rider, but no core makes them grippier and softer feeling

stoked to see this thread active again :)
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So the Skate Aid wheel would maybe be a tad slower, since the RR is cored with a harder durometer?
Skate aids are faster than rough riders IMO. Wayyyy smoother ride especially on rough shit. Also they are 59mm not 56mm. Rough rider might be faster at super smooth park but like someone said earlier, the soft wheels are slow and mushy on smooth concrete. Dragons are def the call for smooth stuff
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on May 31, 2023, 02:35:59 PM
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Just nabbed a Bank Mauler myself.  Saw on Neil’s instagram the prototype model was on Powell Skate Aids, but also wondering what is preferred for those who have ridden one before.
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Those are just 78a’s in a similar Bones ATF formula to Rough Riders?  56mm?
Setup seems really fuckin cool, just wonder how this thing is meant to be used… as a cruiser?  A crusty banky skatepark set up?  Pump tracks?  Honestly asking because I think I love it but wanna understand what exactly I’d be working with here  ;D
Would it be insane to put dragons on it and make it more of an all-terrain thing?
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I dont think so

I put dragons on my polarizer for a few sessions.

getting little slides on that thing was fun.

might put them on again sometime but im back on the rough riders for now.
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Word, yeah that sounds fun as hell!

Seems like our boy George blessed us with this description of the product already:

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No real flex to the Bank Mauler.

It's a "tradtional" board. Mild concave from truck to truck. About 8 1/4 at widest point.

NO TAIL. Your back foot fits right in this nice "pocket" over the back truck. Lots of back foot control.

With the Aces, it's super carvy.

I've been calling it a "skatepark cruiser" if that makes sense. You smack bank walls with the carves of a polarizer but nowhere near as squirrel-y. It's FUN.
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George, you get outside the skatepark yet?  Would love to hear more of your takes on this gizmo, your set up looks amazing, my friend.

Bank Mauler is now my GO TO skatepark board, since the park is a shitty little circle of different sized banks and one clamshell in a corner.

I fucked around with bushing situations with the Mauler, hit up NB and he recommended bones soft front and bones medium back (top and bottoms for both), but that gave me some wheel rubs on the front truck after learning how to DEEP CARVE on a polarizer and basically having your weight dispersion rewired.

The way I run the Mauler bushings on the ACE 00s now is Bones soft tops and ACE stock barrel on BOTH trucks. Stabilizes the center of gravity a bit with the 86A barrels, and the Bones top gives you a giving carve.

I polarize when riding around and cruisin for a bruisin.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on May 31, 2023, 04:28:43 PM
Whoa hadn’t scoped out the bank mauler before but that looks sick!

With the boards being predrilled now do they just use normal hardware?

I’m only able to have a proper skate twice a week but I’ve been trying to polarize for ten min every day, it’s the best. I positively do not need more than one, but damn it’s hard to not build a lot of these little fuckers: the Foxed, Aqua (wish I got the undrilled), Fiber Rider, haven’t tried HW trucks…and now Bank Mauler. Ugh ;D
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on June 01, 2023, 01:01:25 PM
Thanks for all the feedback!  Gonna have a think on wheels, it’s a fun little puzzle to sort out.  :D
Are we sure 59mm Skate Aids would be OK on a Bank Mauler?  No wheel bite potential?
56’s are the move for the roller skate based polarizers it seems so I was thinking 56’s for this since, yeah it’s slightly wider at 8.25 but has a medium concave instead of convex… and not totally dissimilar in size to the 6 x 27.5 models… so curious what y’all think!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 02, 2023, 02:07:29 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtAHnh2yUeA/
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on June 02, 2023, 02:51:11 PM
“Many ways to maul” !!

What a time to be alive  ;D
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on June 02, 2023, 03:48:38 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtAHnh2yUeA/

Rad.  Are those Skate Aids or Rough Riders?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 02, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
Looking like skate aid
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on June 02, 2023, 04:42:25 PM
Looking like skate aid

Thanks, snagged some
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on June 03, 2023, 02:24:31 PM
Okay, I’m a Mauler grabber too now. 
Thanks for all the ideas on wheels - I have some Rough Riders on another board so I’ll see what all this hype is about Skate Aids. 
Could be because Blender’s rig looked to be set up that way, but its pretty sick with the graphic out and all the black coordination going on.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0555/4257/products/WSAUPPSA5978G4.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0607/3575/0392/files/BANK_MAULER_WEB_672x992.jpg?v=1683513705)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 03, 2023, 02:54:43 PM
I tried this but it doesn’t feel right, i will get wheel bites on this large washer…

I’m confused, can you guys who owns the HW trucks show me their bushing configuration using Powerdyne?
(https://i.ibb.co/5LQPfgS/IMG-4245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LQPfgS)

Get the Powerdyne Hop Up Kit, they are cone top bushings so no need for a cup. I have been riding Powerdyne bushings the past two years, they work great with HW trucks.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on June 04, 2023, 02:11:41 AM
Thanks! I manage to snag the last pack i could find of red hop up in Europe! I also got some 78A Bont bushings, and did sand some powerdyne yellow barrels. Still experimenting on those HW trucks! I also bought a Peter Hewitt, will put my Acs 430 on it, and will have to experiment bushings on that set up as well! Deep down the rabbit hole, fun and fascinating!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on June 07, 2023, 03:34:19 PM
What are the best pivot cup for the HW trucks?
Any Riptide cup that fit in it?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 07, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
What are the best pivot cup for the HW trucks?
Any Riptide cup that fit in it?

I've not heard of a riptide cup that fits.

Seems like people are replacing the hw ones with suregrip pivots.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on June 07, 2023, 05:29:16 PM
Has anyone tried the Mini Logo AWOLs? I’m looking to get a set of 55s but want to check in here first.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on June 07, 2023, 10:15:36 PM
Alright thanks i have some Sure Grip pivot on the way, also considering the mini logo
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 08, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Powerdyne Hop Up Kit is discontinued, FYI everyone. Can only get barrels from Powerdyne now


Here it is, homies. My first full "commercial" polarizer:

(https://i.ibb.co/p0yDNR7/IMG-6055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p0yDNR7)

No measuring, no drilling, no templates, no grinder, no wood screws, no nothing.

Predrilled hole, normal skateboard bolts, HW trucks.

It was amazingly, amazingly simple to put together. Felt WEIRD.

Have not rode yet, will get back to ya.  Switched HW standard bushings for two barrel/cone 78A BONTS.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 10, 2023, 04:37:49 AM
A heads up on the HW trucks. They will catch going up over steeper banks and such.

Tried them at my local skatepark today and I am a bit disappointed to be honest. Back truck caught on the edge of a somewhat steep bank going up it. None of my Sure Grips ever had this issue on this bank. Looking at the geometry I can see why. I run 56 mm Bones. Anyone else experienced it?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 10, 2023, 06:42:28 AM
A heads up on the HW trucks. They will catch going up over steeper banks and such.

Tried them at my local skatepark today and I am a bit disappointed to be honest. Back truck caught on the edge of a somewhat steep bank going up it. None of my Sure Grips ever had this issue on this bank. Looking at the geometry I can see why. I run 56 mm Bones. Anyone else experienced it?
Your kingpin is hitting the sharp edge of the top of the bank/hip. This is the polarizer gods sending you a sign to not ride these obstacles in this manner anymore. Carve on the face of the bank, don’t ride over it. Basically, if you are ever clicking your kingpin on anything, you are doing it wrong. Hot tip: when riding over cracks in the street/sidewalk, don’t right straight over them (kingpin will click), hit em at a 45deg angle and you will roll smoothly over even the biggest crack
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 10, 2023, 07:38:22 AM
I should have been more precise what I meant by catching, sorry. It is the yoke that catches.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 10, 2023, 09:09:18 AM
I see what you mean, but still: if any part of your trucks are clipping on shit, just ride the obstacle differently. Try rolling over that sharp edge at more of an angle or something, idk
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on June 10, 2023, 11:11:23 AM
Aren't the Heated Wheel trucks wider than the Sure Grips? It could be that there's more room between the wheels, and this larger gap enables the hanger to scrape.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 10, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
I see what you mean, but still: if any part of your trucks are clipping on shit, just ride the obstacle differently. Try rolling over that sharp edge at more of an angle or something, idk

Yeah I know but here is what is going on with the HW truck. The yoke is closer to the ground than what it is on the Sure Grips, so more likely to catch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtUsLc-oDXU/
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on June 10, 2023, 03:51:48 PM
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I see what you mean, but still: if any part of your trucks are clipping on shit, just ride the obstacle differently. Try rolling over that sharp edge at more of an angle or something, idk
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Yeah I know but here is what is going on with the HW truck. The yoke is closer to the ground than what it is on the Sure Grips, so more likely to catch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtUsLc-oDXU/


i'd need to see both the trucks on the same flat surface, in the same frame to see any kinda of difference and even then...... the heated wheel trucked board is tilted way more in this pic.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on June 10, 2023, 07:23:17 PM
Got Mauling today and the results were excellent.  Started off sidewalk surfing and getting the basics, felt some flex but I’m a bigger guy. 

Then I graduated to a mellow hill, most of the good banked driveways were filled for the weekend but I’ve noted them for midweek seshes.  Carving on this thing rules. 

Two little kids skating a curb cut asked if I could do tricks on it and my answer bummed them out.  They told me to get a board I can ollie on  ;D

Then when I came back around for another run, a dude was calling the cops and said those two were throwing rocks/vandalized his shit.  He asked if I knew them.  I feel like I just street skated for the first time again.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: biaherl on June 11, 2023, 12:09:50 AM
A heads up on the HW trucks. They will catch going up over steeper banks and such.

Tried them at my local skatepark today and I am a bit disappointed to be honest. Back truck caught on the edge of a somewhat steep bank going up it. None of my Sure Grips ever had this issue on this bank. Looking at the geometry I can see why. I run 56 mm Bones. Anyone else experienced it?

The Heated Wheel truck is a copy on a Chicago truck that was Neil's favorite truck to ride in this style. Neil always said that the Sure grips were trash, he sold them because they were so abundant he couldn't win, and people weren't as picky as he was (also keeping what ever stock of Chicago's he could find his). He made the HW trucks to get rid of the sure grips.

If yours are catching Neil has a solution for you. You may not like it but he'll tell you the truth. He'll probably tell you that you've got to switch to sure grips to skate that bank

I suck at polarizing, I have 6 completes and have only caught my yoke on a street crack with sure grips. My guess is you are getting a lot of flex on that bank

DM heated wheel and ask Ed to ask Neil for you
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 11, 2023, 12:39:16 AM
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I see what you mean, but still: if any part of your trucks are clipping on shit, just ride the obstacle differently. Try rolling over that sharp edge at more of an angle or something, idk
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Yeah I know but here is what is going on with the HW truck. The yoke is closer to the ground than what it is on the Sure Grips, so more likely to catch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtUsLc-oDXU/
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i'd need to see both the trucks on the same flat surface, in the same frame to see any kinda of difference and even then...... the heated wheel trucked board is tilted way more in this pic.

No matter how you look at it the Sure Grip has better clearance BUT the HW is a better turning truck IMO. The Sure Grip has a Harrys' stud kingpin installed so it adjusts more like a standard truck. A standard kingpin on the HW would be a bad idea.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtV3zxIrHBd/
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on June 11, 2023, 10:01:55 AM
Got Mauling today and the results were excellent.  Started off sidewalk surfing and getting the basics, felt some flex but I’m a bigger guy

Then I graduated to a mellow hill, most of the good banked driveways were filled for the weekend but I’ve noted them for midweek seshes.  Carving on this thing rules. 

Two little kids skating a curb cut asked if I could do tricks on it and my answer bummed them out.  They told me to get a board I can ollie on  ;D

Then when I came back around for another run, a dude was calling the cops and said those two were throwing rocks/vandalized his shit.  He asked if I knew them.  I feel like I just street skated for the first time again.

Can confirm- maybe it’s not as flex-y as other polarizers out there, but the flex is present.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on June 11, 2023, 05:23:04 PM
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I see what you mean, but still: if any part of your trucks are clipping on shit, just ride the obstacle differently. Try rolling over that sharp edge at more of an angle or something, idk
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Yeah I know but here is what is going on with the HW truck. The yoke is closer to the ground than what it is on the Sure Grips, so more likely to catch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtUsLc-oDXU/
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i'd need to see both the trucks on the same flat surface, in the same frame to see any kinda of difference and even then...... the heated wheel trucked board is tilted way more in this pic.
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No matter how you look at it the Sure Grip has better clearance BUT the HW is a better turning truck IMO. The Sure Grip has a Harrys' stud kingpin installed so it adjusts more like a standard truck. A standard kingpin on the HW would be a bad idea.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtV3zxIrHBd/



thanks, much better and very interesting. defiantly want to try Sure Grips when i finally get around to polarizing. i thought i was just going to do HW trucks and board before.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 11, 2023, 06:36:22 PM
Sure Grips instead of Heated Wheel trucks?? Surely you jest
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 12, 2023, 11:44:16 AM
i swapped my HW stock pivots with soft sure grips and loosened it up a turn or two

we're approaching the perfect turn
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on June 12, 2023, 12:02:23 PM
Mauler log, entry 002: 

Took the Mauler on a lunchtime trip to the library.  Really appreciating the Skate Aids, without the nose and tail it’s super useful to climb over cracks and debris.  Haven’t touched the trucks one bit and they’re pretty dang surfy.  Really enjoying having a setup than can be a cruiser when desired, but can’t be used for tricks.  Sometimes I bite off more than I can chew on errands.  Have more plans for this in more specifically banked settings but it’s super fun getting my bearings with it so far.

Also even on a mellow descent this thing gets going so damn fast! :)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 13, 2023, 03:46:16 AM
i swapped my HW stock pivots with soft sure grips and loosened it up a turn or two

we're approaching the perfect turn

Yup it makes a really big difference. I run them too with yellow Powerdyne Hop Up bushing (still available in Sweden at least). I am curious how the HW trucks will perform with nylon/delrin pivot cups. I tried it with Sure Grips and the turn was amazing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on June 13, 2023, 05:45:13 AM
The shop in Sweden you’re talking about is Kahalani?
I agree the Sure grip cup make a huge difference!
I run my HW trucks with Bont 78a cones and HC Bones med on back trucks, Bont 78a cones and HC Bones soft on front trucks, 18 WB and loving it!

Would be interesting to hear how others set their HW trucks and why!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on June 13, 2023, 06:28:59 AM
Someone who has a drilled polarizer.. what did they set the wheelbase at?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 13, 2023, 10:05:58 AM
Someone who has a drilled polarizer.. what did they set the wheelbase at?
19 1/2” axle to axle. Bolt to bolt is not the way to measure polarizer WB
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on June 13, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
The shop in Sweden you’re talking about is Kahalani?
I agree the Sure grip cup make a huge difference!
I run my HW trucks with Bont 78a cones and HC Bones med on back trucks, Bont 78a cones and HC Bones soft on front trucks, 18 WB and loving it!

Would be interesting to hear how others set their HW trucks and why!

Yes, Kahalani sells them but I got a couple of sets from skatebox.se. PowerDyne Magic Cushions - Revenge/Rival are the same bushings as the Hop Ups.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sikost on June 13, 2023, 02:02:25 PM
Tried to order on skatebox.se but they don’t send to France unfortunately 
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: George Vallore on June 21, 2023, 04:11:36 AM
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Someone who has a drilled polarizer.. what did they set the wheelbase at?
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19 1/2” axle to axle. Bolt to bolt is not the way to measure polarizer WB

Confirm it's 19 1/2

Something to take into serious consideration if you prefer another WB. I personally ride 18 1/2 on my setups, and that extra WB threw me off.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on June 28, 2023, 02:44:19 PM
Just got the Foxed graphic with HW trucks, so stoked to give it a ride once it’s dry out.

Anyone run these without grip tape? My “traditional” whip has pretty minimal grip but I kinda want to keep this baby naked, is that totally insane?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: IpathCats on June 28, 2023, 07:13:33 PM
Just got the Foxed graphic with HW trucks, so stoked to give it a ride once it’s dry out.

Anyone run these without grip tape? My “traditional” whip has pretty minimal grip but I kinda want to keep this baby naked, is that totally insane?

Totally up to you, but I would grip it.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on June 29, 2023, 07:27:59 AM
I 2nd that, zipping around and doing quick carves on banks and driveways makes for a lot of torque on the soles of the ol’ shoes, some grip is a must
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: lulz on July 02, 2023, 03:19:08 PM
Has anyone tried the Mini Logo AWOLs? I’m looking to get a set of 55s but want to check in here first.

They ride like oj mini super juice, but faster.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on July 03, 2023, 03:45:13 AM
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Has anyone tried the Mini Logo AWOLs? I’m looking to get a set of 55s but want to check in here first.
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They ride like oj mini super juice, but faster.

Yes, the AWOL wheels are great. I've also got 55mm mini juice, and my Mini Logo 80a are cheaper but work as well.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: AlSharpton on July 03, 2023, 05:06:10 PM
Anyone have the specs to the correct size pivot cup for the HW truck?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on July 03, 2023, 05:14:45 PM
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Has anyone tried the Mini Logo AWOLs? I’m looking to get a set of 55s but want to check in here first.
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They ride like oj mini super juice, but faster.
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Yes, the AWOL wheels are great. I've also got 55mm mini juice, and my Mini Logo 80a are cheaper but work as well.

Sounds good. I have a fresh set of Ace 00s ready to go. I’ll get the AWOLs, replacement bushings and pivot cups, new bearings and finish cutting out an old deck then I’ll be polarizing.

I’m thinking Riptide pivot cups since the Ace ones are already crooked and loose, Bones Big Balls and 81A Pig bushings.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on July 04, 2023, 05:59:12 PM
Anyone have the specs to the correct size pivot cup for the HW truck?
Sure grip ones fit.
.56” OD
.30” ID
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 07, 2023, 07:40:41 AM
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Has anyone tried the Mini Logo AWOLs? I’m looking to get a set of 55s but want to check in here first.
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They ride like oj mini super juice, but faster.
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Yes, the AWOL wheels are great. I've also got 55mm mini juice, and my Mini Logo 80a are cheaper but work as well.
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Sounds good. I have a fresh set of Ace 00s ready to go. I’ll get the AWOLs, replacement bushings and pivot cups, new bearings and finish cutting out an old deck then I’ll be polarizing.

I’m thinking Riptide pivot cups since the Ace ones are already crooked and loose, Bones Big Balls and 81A Pig bushings.

Just FYI, those soft Pig bushings have zero resistance. I’m guessing they firm up a bit eventually, or maybe skating in the cold would help, but they were just constantly popping out of the washers for me. The top bushing is also shorter than an Ace top.

For what it’s worth, the set of 00s I used to have came feeling a little stiff, so I just swapped in a set of new AF1 bushings and washers and that made them really feel good and carvy.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: AlSharpton on July 13, 2023, 07:37:40 AM
https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/phasecaster-wheels

New soft wheels are out
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 13, 2023, 12:07:29 PM
https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/phasecaster-wheels

New soft wheels are out

Hell yesssss. Got some white bois for the foxed whip.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: AlSharpton on July 13, 2023, 05:03:57 PM
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https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/phasecaster-wheels

New soft wheels are out
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Hell yesssss. Got some white bois for the foxed whip.

Report back when you can. I just picked up some rough riders a week ago. If only I held off. I wonder how they compare to OJ mini super juices. They seem very similar
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: cripmeister on July 14, 2023, 04:39:00 AM
https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/phasecaster-wheels

New soft wheels are out

That is basically Kryptonics Star Tracs  ;D
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on July 18, 2023, 06:51:19 PM
Who’s manufacturing these Phasecaster wheels? 

Sofa Tones look sick as fuck but I wonder how performance and durability compares to Skate One’s formulas.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 20, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
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https://theheatedwheel.com/collections/phasecaster-wheels

New soft wheels are out
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Hell yesssss. Got some white bois for the foxed whip.

These arrived yesterday and they’re good. Softer and more flat than the rough riders, they skidded out some for me on deep carves but still really fun, similar but different enough. Overall prefer the rough riders but stoked to have these to make a full heated wheel complete.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: reverbtank on July 25, 2023, 02:18:22 PM
What hardware should I buy for the Fiber Rider? It's predrilled and I've got Heated Wheel trucks. Normal hardware seems too long.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on July 25, 2023, 03:25:17 PM
7/8's is what i would use.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on July 25, 2023, 04:30:14 PM
Who’s manufacturing these Phasecaster wheels? 

Sofa Tones look sick as fuck but I wonder how performance and durability compares to Skate One’s formulas.
You'd think with Blenders loyalty to Bones wheels & bearings they'd be Powell wheels.  They made him customs for his G&S surfrider and i'm sure he's pushed the sales of Rough Riders over the years.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: reverbtank on July 25, 2023, 04:55:10 PM
7/8's is what i would use.

Thanks! I had someone saying 1/2" but I could not find 1/2" hardware.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: skatesum609 on July 25, 2023, 05:04:51 PM
Just set mine up
Got the heated wheel board, trucks and dragon formula wheels
Really fun whippin this thing around the neighborhood

https://imgur.com/gallery/qSUcvTY
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on July 25, 2023, 06:52:01 PM
anyone got a fibre rider? any feedback?

also very grateful for the handful of u keeping the thread alive, i fucking love polarizing
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on July 25, 2023, 10:11:12 PM
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7/8's is what i would use.
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Thanks! I had someone saying 1/2" but I could not find 1/2" hardware.


5/8"'s maybe but 1/2" i think would be too short. never seen either of those though anyways. 7/8's will probably look like 1" hardware w/o any risers depending how thin the fiber rider is.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: reverbtank on July 28, 2023, 06:53:05 PM
anyone got a fibre rider? any feedback?

also very grateful for the handful of u keeping the thread alive, i fucking love polarizing

Yeah I'm on the Fiber Rider with HW trucks and the new wheels from HW. It's sick. If your feet are like 11+ though, you're gonna have very little room and I'd maybe suggest one of the normal Polarizer models with a bit more length/wheel base.

It's flexy. Can pump it to keep up some speed. Turns sharp as hell. These HW wheels are nice, but maybe slightly less grip than Rough Riders even though it's a softer duro I think? I fish tail a little when really turning sharp/fast. This set up goes though. Highly suggest it.

If you get the HW trucks, you can't use a normal skate tool. You'll need HW's tool or a wrench with the open side. The HW trucks don't have much room between the base and nut.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: reverbtank on July 28, 2023, 06:56:07 PM
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7/8's is what i would use.
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Thanks! I had someone saying 1/2" but I could not find 1/2" hardware.
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5/8"'s maybe but 1/2" i think would be too short. never seen either of those though anyways. 7/8's will probably look like 1" hardware w/o any risers depending how thin the fiber rider is.

I hit up Heated Wheel and they confirmed 7/8" too. I've been riding without the wheels hitting the end of the bolt or anything, so we good at 7/8" on the fiber rider.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on July 29, 2023, 12:09:34 AM
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anyone got a fibre rider? any feedback?

also very grateful for the handful of u keeping the thread alive, i fucking love polarizing
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Yeah I'm on the Fiber Rider with HW trucks and the new wheels from HW. It's sick. If your feet are like 11+ though, you're gonna have very little room and I'd maybe suggest one of the normal Polarizer models with a bit more length/wheel base.

It's flexy. Can pump it to keep up some speed. Turns sharp as hell. These HW wheels are nice, but maybe slightly less grip than Rough Riders even though it's a softer duro I think? I fish tail a little when really turning sharp/fast. This set up goes though. Highly suggest it.

If you get the HW trucks, you can't use a normal skate tool. You'll need HW's tool or a wrench with the open side. The HW trucks don't have much room between the base and nut.
turns noticably more than a maple polarizer? just want to know if its a big enough difference to be worth having both.

cheers
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: boston_bruins on July 29, 2023, 05:17:19 AM
Just set mine up
Got the heated wheel board, trucks and dragon formula wheels
Really fun whippin this thing around the neighborhood

https://imgur.com/gallery/qSUcvTY

Dude, don’t be kickflipping the polarizer, cmon….
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: reverbtank on July 29, 2023, 10:23:40 PM
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anyone got a fibre rider? any feedback?

also very grateful for the handful of u keeping the thread alive, i fucking love polarizing
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Yeah I'm on the Fiber Rider with HW trucks and the new wheels from HW. It's sick. If your feet are like 11+ though, you're gonna have very little room and I'd maybe suggest one of the normal Polarizer models with a bit more length/wheel base.

It's flexy. Can pump it to keep up some speed. Turns sharp as hell. These HW wheels are nice, but maybe slightly less grip than Rough Riders even though it's a softer duro I think? I fish tail a little when really turning sharp/fast. This set up goes though. Highly suggest it.

If you get the HW trucks, you can't use a normal skate tool. You'll need HW's tool or a wrench with the open side. The HW trucks don't have much room between the base and nut.
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turns noticably more than a maple polarizer? just want to know if its a big enough difference to be worth having both.

cheers

I haven’t ridden the maple/longer wheelbases ones yet. I imagine with the substantially shorter wheel base the turn radius is sharper. It turns fuckin hard.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on July 30, 2023, 10:16:07 AM
I’m late to posting, but I set it up almost 3 weeks ago. Cut out from the Chocolate Capps Vacuum (8 x 32) I had before my current board, which happens to be a Heated Wheel.

(https://i.ibb.co/8BR6KjN/IMG-6106.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/8BR6KjN)(https://i.ibb.co/CPXyNWv/IMG-6105.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/CPXyNWv)(https://i.ibb.co/QvTwSbD/IMG-6107.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QvTwSbD)

6.5 x 25.5
14.25 wheelbase, same as orginal (17 axle to axle)
3.5 nose and tail
Ace 00 with Pig 81A bushings, Riptide pivot cups and Bones flat top washers
Mini Logo AWOL 55mm 80A
Bones Big Balls
Girl Longneck 1 inch Phillips
Square of clear grip cut in half

(https://i.ibb.co/59dgXwR/IMG-6378.png) (https://ibb.co/59dgXwR)
Maiden voyage 7/11/23

I was holding on to the grip square for over a year knowing I’d have the perfect use for it. Making the template took awhile, 4 hours maybe. It turned out just how I wanted. Originally, it was a more rounded nose and tail. I kept going back and forth between wanting to make the rails straight or tapered, but I kept them straight so the board could be as skinny as possible while being flush with the trucks.

This thing is so fast an fun. I’m working at a skate camp now, and it’s hilarious seeing the kids’ reactions to it. One of them is really into it and always asks if he can ride the upside down board. Some of my friends were trying no complies and 360 flips yesterday… c’mon now. And one of my friends said that this is my most illegal concoction yet haha. I’m still breaking it in and need to give each truck half a turn or so. I went on a mellow downhill cruise with some speed bumps on the way home yesterday. Best feeling.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on July 30, 2023, 10:37:56 AM
Really, really sick.  The Ace 00’s are incredible. 

What’s the best tool/method for cutting a board out?  Have the perfect spare board on hand and a design in mind but none of the know-how to get it cut (and re-drilled).  I want to put it on HW trucks, need to try those suckers.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on July 30, 2023, 12:31:44 PM
After a few more sessions on the phasecasters I kinda think they’re not that good. Regularly slipping out on deep carves that I don’t on Rough Riders.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on July 30, 2023, 01:07:42 PM
Could Ed Dominick be sourcing the wheels from the same place as Pig?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGbceEEA0Wd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on July 30, 2023, 01:33:07 PM
Really, really sick.  The Ace 00’s are incredible. 

What’s the best tool/method for cutting a board out?  Have the perfect spare board on hand and a design in mind but none of the know-how to get it cut (and re-drilled).  I want to put it on HW trucks, need to try those suckers.

Thanks! I used a jigsaw and an orbital sander. You’ll want to cut just outside of the template line then sand it down to the line. The sanding will be much easier if you have access to a belt sander. As for sanding down the rails to round them off, I just did it by feel and tried to keep a rhythm with the orbital sander. They could be rounder and more even, but my hand started to hurt and I was getting impatient.

And be sure to be extra exact with your template measurements. It took awhile for me but paid off in the end. Tracing both the truck holes and baseplate directly onto the template helps a lot instead of just using the truck holes as a guide.

For drilling holes, make sure everything matches your template. Trace the baseplate and holes onto your board in pencil to make sure they’re aligned right. Most people seem to trace the holes and drill without any issues. I worry that my holes will be slightly off, so I use my trucks as guides.

The way I’ve drilled holes only works when the hanger isn’t blocking the holes, so I’m not sure if this will work with Heated Wheel trucks. I start with one hole then attach a truck using that first hole to set the truck in place. Then I make sure the truck is straight using a the rails and a straight edge (again, tracing the baseplates and truck holes helps so much) and drill the hole diagonal from the first one. I drill directly through the truck hole and deck. Now put the hardware through the second hole, and your truck will be secure. Finish the other 2 holes and you should be good. If you’re worried about drilling into the baseplate, use a slightly smaller drill bit.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on July 30, 2023, 01:48:01 PM
Thanks for sharing all that, super helpful.  I appreciate it!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on July 30, 2023, 06:50:03 PM
I cut my first polarizer just free hand from a shaped board and ended up making it too narrow. Sketched out a template and transferred it to an old deck and that one turned out much better but the shape of the OG polarizer is so dope. I have a track n field that gets more attention because I put my HW trucks on it but the convex polarizer with HW trucks swiss six and rough riders really can’t be beat. I’m super curious about the fiberglass model but holding out for something bigger if it comes.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Fallingdownward on August 01, 2023, 03:27:54 PM
Regarding the new soft Phasecaster wheels , I too thought they were noticeably slower than the Bones Rough Riders and even slid out a couple times on some sharper turns. Just one more opinion on them. They do look good and aren’t bad but next to the ATF Rough Riders the differences are noticeable. Maybe they’ll tweak the formula in time.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on August 03, 2023, 04:01:00 PM
Can I use nfg wheels for a polarizer?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on August 04, 2023, 12:14:57 AM
After a few more sessions on the phasecasters I kinda think they’re not that good. Regularly slipping out on deep carves that I don’t on Rough Riders.
that's a bummer, as Neils so drilled in on what's good too.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: The real veganshawn on August 04, 2023, 09:25:14 AM
Ordered a bank mauler and ace trucks. Going to set it up with OJ wheels and Swiss bearings.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on August 18, 2023, 02:29:19 PM
I ripped around on my polarizer today for a cuppa miles of sidewalk with a side of some downhill, it’s mad fun. I put big hard wheels on mine so they can powerslide. I was expecting it feeling like relearning how to skate but I got comfortable on it surprisingly quickly
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on August 20, 2023, 12:41:57 PM
Bank Mauling is the best.  Starting to get the hang of this thing.  Found some mellow street/architectural banks around town and the feeling of surfing em is pretty phenomenal.  Can’t recommend it enough.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on August 20, 2023, 11:19:04 PM
Bank Mauling is the best.  Starting to get the hang of this thing.  Found some mellow street/architectural banks around town and the feeling of surfing em is pretty phenomenal.  Can’t recommend it enough.
Aren’t they so much fun, I’m stoked I got one now cuz it’s been what I been bringing with me every time I pass my front door lol
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on August 21, 2023, 12:05:08 AM
cant justify getting one but have wanted a Mauler for so dang long
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: exista on September 03, 2023, 10:39:44 PM
Fell down the rabbit hole which led me here. And so it begins 😃.
(https://i.ibb.co/ySydCPz/IMG-9605.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ySydCPz)

(https://i.ibb.co/p42DvBY/IMG-9611.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p42DvBY)

(https://i.ibb.co/jhbRWHZ/IMG-9610.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhbRWHZ)

(https://i.ibb.co/ns4cdc6/IMG-9618.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ns4cdc6)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on September 05, 2023, 08:31:49 AM
New products up on the heated wheel site - cork top polarizer and Peter Hewitt fiber rider

They’re offering completes now too
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on September 05, 2023, 11:20:10 AM
New products up on the heated wheel site - cork top polarizer and Peter Hewitt fiber rider

They’re offering completes now too

So much good shit in there.  Thanks for pointing that out.

The cork top is next level:

(https://theheatedwheel.com/cdn/shop/files/THW_FA_23_PAGE_12_99374b1e-4869-4747-bdee-211810ebe2ae_672x512.jpg?v=1693783871)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on October 13, 2023, 01:04:06 PM
who is behind swivel device?

very HW inspired stuff

https://www.instagram.com/swiveldevice
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on December 11, 2023, 04:38:26 PM
Anyone just place these down instead of running and throwing them down lol? When I do that it always flips or bounces and I twist myself up lol
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on December 11, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
yeah, they can be hard to throw down on.

i've been kicking them out in front and getting a running start, still can end up twisted or getting off to one side while landing one foot and trying to push in the same motion.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on December 11, 2023, 10:01:51 PM
yeah, they can be hard to throw down on.

i've been kicking them out in front and getting a running start, still can end up twisted or getting off to one side while landing one foot and trying to push in the same motion.
I’m loving getting more comfortable on them though, I’m a size 12. 6,2” guy so it’s def sketch
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on January 06, 2024, 07:20:22 PM
I got a Hewitt Fiber rider a couple months ago. Only been riding it around my slightly sloped driveway but it’s so fun. Bouncy ride and tight carves, makes the polarizer feel stiff.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fls.dcht on January 12, 2024, 11:51:10 AM
I've been carving around on a mini cruiser w/ 106mm Racetrack X slalom trucks for the past couple years; hella fun. Currently in the process of cutting down an old longboard roughly to polarizer specs. Mounted some Bont trucks w/ 78a bushings on it. Can't wait to swivel on this thing.

Can anyone comment on whether the Hewitt Fiber Rider would have much flex under my measly 115 lbs? If so I mean to snap one up on the next drop. If not, I might hit up Scott at Assembly/Moon Patrol and see about a custom fiber deck w/ fewer plies than standard.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on January 22, 2024, 08:25:48 AM
Can anyone comment on whether the Hewitt Fiber Rider would have much flex under my measly 115 lbs?

Yes, it is flexy and sexy. Hewitt himself is probably 140 lbs soaking wet but even stepping on it with half my weight it flexes quite a bit
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on January 22, 2024, 03:20:06 PM
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Can anyone comment on whether the Hewitt Fiber Rider would have much flex under my measly 115 lbs?
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Yes, it is flexy and sexy. Hewitt himself is probably 140 lbs soaking wet but even stepping on it with half my weight it flexes quite a bit

My homie has one and is a small man, still flexes like hell, really fun board.

Also Orchard has tons of polarizers on sale right now!
https://orchardshop.com/collections/all-sale-items
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on February 05, 2024, 10:34:52 AM
I cut this out yesterday and just went on my first sail with it. Soooooo fun. I was able to go around the center circle of a small basketball court with no wheelbite.

(https://i.ibb.co/7J77BV1/IMG-7837.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/7J77BV1)(https://i.ibb.co/q14H3xL/IMG-7838.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/q14H3xL)(https://i.ibb.co/Pmg2KWK/IMG-7844.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/Pmg2KWK)(https://i.ibb.co/QpFXYDX/IMG-7850.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpFXYDX)image upload (https://imgbb.com/)

8.5 Heated Wheel deck cut into a 6 x 27 Polarizer shape. I traced over a Polarizer in Illustrator to get the template, then rescaled it to the right size and printed it out. It has a 15 inch wheelbase, 18.5 axle to axle.

Heated Wheel trucks with stock top bushing on the bottom, soft Pig top bushing, Bones flat washer, and I swapped the stock kingpin for a 3/8-24 x2 hex cap bolt from the hardware store. The new kingpin is so much better now that it fits a skate tool.

Mini Logo AWOL 55mm 80A
Bones Big Balls
7/8 Phillips
Jessup NBD
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on February 05, 2024, 10:59:27 AM
nice! did you have to use a new lock nut on the bottom too? that looks thicker than the ones that come stock

I'm tempted to do this but also don't really adjust my trucks now that they're dialed in and locked with the nut
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on February 05, 2024, 12:25:21 PM
Nope, same lock nut that came with the trucks.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on February 05, 2024, 03:13:59 PM
I cut this out yesterday and just went on my first sail with it. Soooooo fun. I was able to go around the center circle of a small basketball court with no wheelbite.

(https://i.ibb.co/7J77BV1/IMG-7837.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/7J77BV1)(https://i.ibb.co/q14H3xL/IMG-7838.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/q14H3xL)(https://i.ibb.co/Pmg2KWK/IMG-7844.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/Pmg2KWK)(https://i.ibb.co/QpFXYDX/IMG-7850.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpFXYDX)image upload (https://imgbb.com/)

8.5 Heated Wheel deck cut into a 6 x 27 Polarizer shape. I traced over a Polarizer in Illustrator to get the template, then rescaled it to the right size and printed it out. It has a 15 inch wheelbase, 18.5 axle to axle.

Heated Wheel trucks with stock top bushing on the bottom, soft Pig top bushing, Bones flat washer, and I swapped the stock kingpin for a 3/8-24 x2 hex cap bolt from the hardware store. The new kingpin is so much better now that it fits a skate tool.

Mini Logo AWOL 55mm 80A
Bones Big Balls
7/8 Phillips
Jessup NBD

That looks fantastic.  How do you like those wheels, by the way?  Are they Rough Rider/Skate Aid adjacent?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on February 06, 2024, 07:28:06 AM
That looks fantastic.  How do you like those wheels, by the way?  Are they Rough Rider/Skate Aid adjacent?

Thanks. I like them a lot. Fast, grippy and smooth. No chunking. And I got them for $30. I’ve never had Rough Riders, but they use the same formula and the RR 56s have the same width as the AWOL 55s  according to the Bones and Mini Logo sites. The only difference I can see is that the AWOLs have a smaller core, or at least less is showing.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 06, 2024, 09:42:01 AM
I cut this out yesterday and just went on my first sail with it. Soooooo fun. I was able to go around the center circle of a small basketball court with no wheelbite.

(https://i.ibb.co/7J77BV1/IMG-7837.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/7J77BV1)(https://i.ibb.co/q14H3xL/IMG-7838.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/q14H3xL)(https://i.ibb.co/Pmg2KWK/IMG-7844.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/Pmg2KWK)(https://i.ibb.co/QpFXYDX/IMG-7850.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpFXYDX)image upload (https://imgbb.com/)

8.5 Heated Wheel deck cut into a 6 x 27 Polarizer shape. I traced over a Polarizer in Illustrator to get the template, then rescaled it to the right size and printed it out. It has a 15 inch wheelbase, 18.5 axle to axle.

Heated Wheel trucks with stock top bushing on the bottom, soft Pig top bushing, Bones flat washer, and I swapped the stock kingpin for a 3/8-24 x2 hex cap bolt from the hardware store. The new kingpin is so much better now that it fits a skate tool.

Mini Logo AWOL 55mm 80A
Bones Big Balls
7/8 Phillips
Jessup NBD

That’s rad especially since it’s a cut down HW. 🫡
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Tireeedd on February 06, 2024, 06:29:14 PM
I cut this out yesterday and just went on my first sail with it. Soooooo fun. I was able to go around the center circle of a small basketball court with no wheelbite.

(https://i.ibb.co/7J77BV1/IMG-7837.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/7J77BV1)(https://i.ibb.co/q14H3xL/IMG-7838.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/q14H3xL)(https://i.ibb.co/Pmg2KWK/IMG-7844.jpg)

 (https://ibb.co/Pmg2KWK)(https://i.ibb.co/QpFXYDX/IMG-7850.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpFXYDX)image upload (https://imgbb.com/)

8.5 Heated Wheel deck cut into a 6 x 27 Polarizer shape. I traced over a Polarizer in Illustrator to get the template, then rescaled it to the right size and printed it out. It has a 15 inch wheelbase, 18.5 axle to axle.

Heated Wheel trucks with stock top bushing on the bottom, soft Pig top bushing, Bones flat washer, and I swapped the stock kingpin for a 3/8-24 x2 hex cap bolt from the hardware store. The new kingpin is so much better now that it fits a skate tool.

Mini Logo AWOL 55mm 80A
Bones Big Balls
7/8 Phillips
Jessup NBD


everything except the jessup, like yowza
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: toe_knee on February 07, 2024, 06:03:21 AM
Okay I think I’m gonna bite and get one of the completes to mess around on while I’m healing from a knee injury, question is do I get the bank mauler complete or the regular polarizer complete? Some background? I live in Austin Texas so some decent ditches and whatnot, but I’d prolly be using this mostly to cruise around my neighborhood on the sidewalk and peoples driveways on my way to get beer from the local corner store, and possibly to warm up at spots when I’m over this knee stuff, I live in an area with rough asphalt roads, are the wheels soft enough? Or should I invest in something of better quality? These things look super fun and while I’m semi injured it seems like a cool alternative to keep my mind off shit
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on February 07, 2024, 06:46:58 AM
Okay I think I’m gonna bite and get one of the completes to mess around on while I’m healing from a knee injury, question is do I get the bank mauler complete or the regular polarizer complete? Some background? I live in Austin Texas so some decent ditches and whatnot, but I’d prolly be using this mostly to cruise around my neighborhood on the sidewalk and peoples driveways on my way to get beer from the local corner store, and possibly to warm up at spots when I’m over this knee stuff, I live in an area with rough asphalt roads, are the wheels soft enough? Or should I invest in something of better quality? These things look super fun and while I’m semi injured it seems like a cool alternative to keep my mind off shit

I haven’t ridden a bank mauler but if I were you I would get a traditional polarizer with rough riders and enjoy the ride!! If you dig that, cop a bank mauler later.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: toe_knee on February 07, 2024, 07:09:54 AM
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Okay I think I’m gonna bite and get one of the completes to mess around on while I’m healing from a knee injury, question is do I get the bank mauler complete or the regular polarizer complete? Some background? I live in Austin Texas so some decent ditches and whatnot, but I’d prolly be using this mostly to cruise around my neighborhood on the sidewalk and peoples driveways on my way to get beer from the local corner store, and possibly to warm up at spots when I’m over this knee stuff, I live in an area with rough asphalt roads, are the wheels soft enough? Or should I invest in something of better quality? These things look super fun and while I’m semi injured it seems like a cool alternative to keep my mind off shit
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I haven’t ridden a bank mauler but if I were you I would get a traditional polarizer with rough riders and enjoy the ride!! If you dig that, cop a bank mauler later.

Preeeeeesh, yea I think that’s the plan, can’t wait to get squirrelly
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on February 07, 2024, 05:38:09 PM
Would be so sick if the Phasecasters were on point.  Fingers crossed they get there.

Haven’t ridden a typical polarizer yet (it’s at the top of my list), but the Bank Mauler rules.  It’s definitely more stable than a smaller setup would be, but the turning is still super surfy.  It really does feel great in ditch settings.  I mainly use it as a crusier day-to-day and it’s also perfect for that.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: toe_knee on February 08, 2024, 06:49:00 AM
I’m really interested in the fiber rider, I may just get that and build myself a custom complete rather than buying a complete set, I want something zip zinger ish but still polarizer and that black and teal fiber rider is looking pretty buttery, prolly still get the HW truck but Frankenstein them at the local hardware store with a grade 8 bolt or something, and use the bones AWOLs or RRS depending on what I decide for a color scheme, appreciate any other suggestions or advice as well, haven’t been this hyped picking out a skateboard since I was a little kid
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on February 12, 2024, 12:19:25 PM
here's some pics of my fiber rider since i don't think anyone's put some up yet

(https://i.ibb.co/k5Yj3Gw/IMG-7451.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BKjyBFs/IMG-7452.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/TT52TTG/IMG-7453.jpg)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 12, 2024, 07:14:42 PM
Fell down the rabbit hole which led me here. And so it begins 😃.
(https://i.ibb.co/ySydCPz/IMG-9605.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ySydCPz)

(https://i.ibb.co/p42DvBY/IMG-9611.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p42DvBY)

(https://i.ibb.co/jhbRWHZ/IMG-9610.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhbRWHZ)

(https://i.ibb.co/ns4cdc6/IMG-9618.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ns4cdc6)

Fuck yeah. That shits clean af. Love it
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 12, 2024, 07:16:10 PM
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New products up on the heated wheel site - cork top polarizer and Peter Hewitt fiber rider

They’re offering completes now too
[close]

So much good shit in there.  Thanks for pointing that out.

The cork top is next level:

(https://theheatedwheel.com/cdn/shop/files/THW_FA_23_PAGE_12_99374b1e-4869-4747-bdee-211810ebe2ae_672x512.jpg?v=1693783871)

I lo ve this stuff.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 29, 2024, 03:02:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QjM4rVj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MydmnDn.jpg)

Just took my inaugural spin on my Polarizer. Went with the complete kit from Heated Wheel and I'm super happy how it came out. The water color graphic looks really nice.

It's totally freaky just pumping around on such a small board. There's a little alley behind my apartment with some mini banks and bollards to slalom through, had a good ol time.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Kook Me Amadeus on February 29, 2024, 10:50:39 PM
Nice rig, Bart.  Looks fun.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on February 29, 2024, 11:40:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QjM4rVj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MydmnDn.jpg)

Just took my inaugural spin on my Polarizer. Went with the complete kit from Heated Wheel and I'm super happy how it came out. The water color graphic looks really nice.

It's totally freaky just pumping around on such a small board. There's a little alley behind my apartment with some mini banks and bollards to slalom through, had a good ol time.


Yeah I can still bash around a parking lot squeezing turns into parking spaces and have the best time
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: pugmaster on March 01, 2024, 03:09:04 PM
Cross post: Just added a complete kit if you want to get your hands on a polarizer for cheap. If you're a pal I can do lower.

https://www.depop.com/whatnotandwhathaveyou/ (https://www.depop.com/whatnotandwhathaveyou/)
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ant on March 02, 2024, 09:09:54 AM
My friend is closing his shop down so snagged the HW trucks and deck I've been eyeing up for a couple of months. Is 55/56 the right size wheel? I've got some 60mm Super Juice here.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on March 02, 2024, 09:13:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QjM4rVj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MydmnDn.jpg)

Just took my inaugural spin on my Polarizer. Went with the complete kit from Heated Wheel and I'm super happy how it came out. The water color graphic looks really nice.

It's totally freaky just pumping around on such a small board. There's a little alley behind my apartment with some mini banks and bollards to slalom through, had a good ol time.

That’s one fly rig my G, sick!!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 02, 2024, 09:36:35 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/QjM4rVj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MydmnDn.jpg)

Just took my inaugural spin on my Polarizer. Went with the complete kit from Heated Wheel and I'm super happy how it came out. The water color graphic looks really nice.

It's totally freaky just pumping around on such a small board. There's a little alley behind my apartment with some mini banks and bollards to slalom through, had a good ol time.
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That’s one fly rig my G, sick!!!

Thank you! I was a little bummed when they messaged me to say silver trucks were out of stock, but I’m
Actually digging the black trucks a lot
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 02, 2024, 05:11:03 PM
Great setup bart.

Grip, colors, everything.

Quite nice.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Ant on March 04, 2024, 06:09:56 AM
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Nerve wracking
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on March 04, 2024, 06:27:51 PM



yeah, i wish they would've silk screened alignment dots or something!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: thanksgiving on March 07, 2024, 04:44:40 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hY6YCqZ/E2-EE6-DC4-B76-D-4-FCD-BEF3-6-E49-FF4-BCB2-F.jpg)

wow… my wooden hewitt model with sure grips is never getting used again. the fiber rider is a game changer!!!
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Accuphased on March 10, 2024, 10:39:40 AM
I'm getting confused by the different ways people measure the WB on polarizers, do you mind telling me the WB on the fiber rider measured in the traditional way? I'm thinking about making one out of an old snowboard.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on March 10, 2024, 11:57:59 AM
I'm getting confused by the different ways people measure the WB on polarizers, do you mind telling me the WB on the fiber rider measured in the traditional way? I'm thinking about making one out of an old snowboard.

I don’t know the reasoning but WB is measured axel to axel on polarizers.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on March 11, 2024, 08:59:47 PM
I'm getting confused by the different ways people measure the WB on polarizers, do you mind telling me the WB on the fiber rider measured in the traditional way? I'm thinking about making one out of an old snowboard.

13 5/8 measured traditionally
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: mattchew on March 15, 2024, 07:25:17 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KjmTpZR/B2-D0294-C-C039-418-B-A5-D1-AC3828-BD88-C3.png)

Me and the Blu Bear polarizing for the first time in ‘24 yesterday.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 15, 2024, 09:28:14 PM
That’s a great shot @mattchew.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on March 28, 2024, 01:16:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU)

The fact that this dope bought a cork top and then set it up upside down....perfection
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 28, 2024, 01:41:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU)

The fact that this dope bought a cork top and then set it up upside down....perfection

This has got to be an ultimate troll.

It's literally called a cork TOP.

Maybe I'm giving Mr Hill too much credit here, but this totally seems like one of those intentionally wrong things a content creator would do to get engagement on a post.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: BL0B on March 28, 2024, 03:00:19 PM
fuckers not gonna get me, not today John Hill.


someone with an already JH'd algo tell me what the comments say?
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: newspaperparty on March 28, 2024, 03:12:51 PM
fuckers not gonna get me, not today John Hill.


someone with an already JH'd algo tell me what the comments say?

a couple people nicely mentioned that he may be riding it upside down, but no one has had the balls to tell him how actually stupid he is and how embarrassed he should be

"JH'd algo" too good
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 28, 2024, 06:57:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU)

The fact that this dope bought a cork top and then set it up upside down....perfection

Well how else can you get grip tape to stick if there’s cork?! 🥴
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 29, 2024, 02:21:09 AM
Man I watch so much Youtube and all kinds of people there. Skaters, Halo and Nintendo gamers, Yoga and health people. But I can't get into this John Hill dude for some reason. Some weird vibes and it all feels like fake positivity. Sorry John, you might be really cool for all I know but it just isn't for me.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 30, 2024, 04:36:41 AM
Man I watch so much Youtube and all kinds of people there. Skaters, Halo and Nintendo gamers, Yoga and health people. But I can't get into this John Hill dude for some reason. Some weird vibes and it all feels like fake positivity. Sorry John, you might be really cool for all I know but it just isn't for me.

Def trust your gut on that one lol
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on March 30, 2024, 01:38:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFClJjkGVU)

The fact that this dope bought a cork top and then set it up upside down....perfection
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This has got to be an ultimate troll.

It's literally called a cork TOP.

Maybe I'm giving Mr Hill too much credit here, but this totally seems like one of those intentionally wrong things a content creator would do to get engagement on a post.

Seems like he wanted to have it set up as a concave so he could flip it, ride off curbs, etc.  Maybe I’m wrong but seems like Hill has some reach on YouTube so it could be a positive thing for THW’s sales, potentially.  I don’t hate it.  Basically free advertising.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: sharkin on March 30, 2024, 04:30:39 PM
He mentions this thread but doesn’t specifically say slap

He also mention the board has negative concave and can/should be ridden upside down but proceeds to set it up wrong

He quotes someone’s post or blog regarding the gate keeping of polarizers, how it’s not supposed to be something easily accessible and more of a niche subculture of skating.

Hes basically johnsplaining polarizers to his You Tube fans so at worst polarizers aren’t cool anymore (impossible) and at best, Neil will get some sales out of the whole ordeal
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on April 02, 2024, 03:37:11 PM

Been trying to post mine for weeks, I have two. Hopefully this’ll work

https://imgur.com/a/j2af6Sv
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: fernando the skater on April 03, 2024, 01:15:55 AM

Been trying to post mine for weeks, I have two. Hopefully this’ll work

(https://i.imgur.com/UkcwYqJ.jpeg)

put the photograph link in the Mona lisa button, bottom left.

Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Heshrat on April 03, 2024, 01:58:06 PM
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Been trying to post mine for weeks, I have two. Hopefully this’ll work

(https://i.imgur.com/UkcwYqJ.jpeg)

put the photograph link in the Mona lisa button, bottom left.
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Lol when I try to upload it says session timed out, or photo too big or something else even when I make it smaller lol. Thanks for helping out 😂😂😂
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Rick Trapasso on April 17, 2024, 06:15:07 AM
I have a polarizer that I had to drill myself, think I might have gone a little too long on my wb.

Should I

A: just redrill it and call it a day

B: buy a pre drilled fiber rider and heated wheel trucks

C: buy a pre drilled cork top and heated wheel trucks
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: radcunt on April 17, 2024, 06:32:12 AM
Just get good wood screws (Inuse the ones out of bones rails) and screw em in where you want them. Don’t be too precious about it. I was back when you had to order them off Neil as they were impossible to get, but you can’t go too wrong. I’ve loved mine a few times, warped it a bit in my car and 6 years on it still rides sick.
Title: Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
Post by: Rick Trapasso on April 17, 2024, 06:55:48 AM
Just get good wood screws (Inuse the ones out of bones rails) and screw em in where you want them. Don’t be too precious about it. I was back when you had to order them off Neil as they were impossible to get, but you can’t go too wrong. I’ve loved mine a few times, warped it a bit in my car and 6 years on it still rides sick.

Yea, I think this is def the responsible decision. Was trying to give myself and excuse to buy a fancy new one and try out those heated wheel trucks.