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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Tear Up a Trick on May 21, 2022, 05:39:11 AM
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This is not intended as a criticism, just a genuine question for people who know the spot well.
I've never been to SF but have heard so much about how difficult China Banks are to skate, and T-Funk's ollie seems superhuman.
To those who know the spot: would there have been an alternate angle that would have captured the bigness of it better than what we saw in the video?
Like should there have been a stationary camera from a distance to show the distance to scale?
Just wondering if anyone can give pertinent commentary or opinion?
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Go to SF and measure the bigness. Problem solved.
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Seems well documented to me. Having never been to SF the cover photo helps put the steepness into perspective. Add that to the footage which shows the speed, pop and distance required and it’s all packaged nicely.
I don’t think fisheye would have done it justice.
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That would be sick if he ollied and landed on the bank and then like jammed it onto the bench and Beagle filmed it with a drone
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I wish there would be way more angles. I'll probably never be there and just don't get how huge that ollie was
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Never been there but thought the footage was good. We all have seen that spot 1,000s of times so it's clear how insane it was.
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
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(https://frinkiac.com/video/S07E02/Y4iUeTU_Ih7vpgk2UHrn13mdyIk=.gif)
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still bummed he ollied after the bench started and didn't jam onto it >:(
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Pretty sure that spot is coming down soon. If you've been there you know how bonkers that is. The banks are steep and that bench is loooooooong
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there’s been decades of documented footage there that can confirm how bananas in pajamas that Ollie was otherwise I’d be on the same sinking boat as you with this
would have been sick filmed wes anderson style minus the Easter basket color palette
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I’ve been there 10+ years ago and what he’s done is totally insane, pure madness.
It’s baker and beagle my friend not lakai and Ty evans (thankfully) so it was documented as good as it gets. For baker standards.
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With as narrow as it is there that's really the best you can do, you can't fit the entire bench in view if you film it straight across from it
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
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We DESERVE 6, maybe 12 angles
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another longshot angle from the street below would be cool to show more context of how scary that place looks/is would have been cool. but not better.
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3 angles and a cover seems pretty well documented
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Just be glad the guy who filmed Masons cover wasn’t involved
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Should have got Fat Bill to film it for a proper fit check and intimate facial close-ups.
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just measure the bigness already
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Just be glad the guy who filmed Masons cover wasn’t involved
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I think they covered it well, but in an ideal world, I too would have loved a long lens shot from an opposite building or some such so that you can see the drop down to the street level and him hovering over the wall. Might not look as dope as I now imagine it would but had they done it I would have been mighty glad to have seen it. (Grammar waves going higher than his ollie!)
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I think they covered it well, but in an ideal world, I too would have loved a long lens shot from an opposite building or some such so that you can see the drop down to the street level and him hovering over the wall. Might not look as dope as I now imagine it would but had they done it I would have been mighty glad to have seen it. (Grammar waves going higher than his ollie!)
Yeah this is kind of what I was asking, like maybe something what Mike T did for Sheffey's part where he showed the spot from a distance so you'd be like what's he gonna do on that and then when you see the actual clip from that angle you can really see the scale of the spot
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You could almost always do more, so no, not technically. But I think it was good enough. There was the clip from behind, and a photo from up front right?
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It would have been more epic in slow motion as the opening trick of 411 issue 175.
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Personally I would've approached it like a bachelorette party and given all the homies disposable Kodaks so they could capture every rapturous moment. Tristan 'smokin' the shit that funked houser' Funkhouser is now forever intertwined with China Banks, til death do they part. You may kiss the bride.
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all you really need to know is this....CARVING the big bench is something 99% of skaters can't do. Let alone looking at it and saying, "I'm gonna ollie the length of this big bench with some of the hardest transition to skate"
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all you really need to know is this....CARVING the big bench is something 99% of skaters can't do. Let alone looking at it and saying, "I'm gonna ollie the length of this big bench with some of the hardest transition to skate"
I'm going to amend this and say 'Carving the SMALL bench is something 99% of skaters can't do'. I honestly didn't think carving the big bench was even possible the first time I went to China Banks.
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Footage of a competent skateboarder attempting a simple kickturn, bashing/chipping their nose into the "transition", and falling into shit would accurately portray what that spot is like.
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all you really need to know is this....CARVING the big bench is something 99% of skaters can't do. Let alone looking at it and saying, "I'm gonna ollie the length of this big bench with some of the hardest transition to skate"
I'm going to amend this and say 'Carving the SMALL bench is something 99% of skaters can't do'. I honestly didn't think carving the big bench was even possible the first time I went to China Banks.
I´am going to amend this and say "Carving the SMALL bench BACKSIDE is something 99% of skaters can't do!
Carving the bank backside is already a tough job - but frontside is a complete different beast.
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
Maybe you’re onto something here: bonus angle should’ve been filmed from an orbital mapping satellite.
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
(https://i.imgur.com/BePY77o.png)
The unused Angle....
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a lot of shit is just like that, truly doesn’t translate in film. you can’t tell how rounded clipper is just by a clip. you see van owen bump and think it looks fun and then you go there and it’s hard to even ollie. i think the clip looks great but, i get your point. it’s just skateboarding. i think it makes it cooler cause all these kids probably say “man i’ll kickflip that shit!” to their friends and then they get there and end up getting a “biggest bunt” award.
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and they never uploaded his ECG stats either
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no
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I thought the filming on it sucked. The angle from the back made it look like he rolled a lot further over the bench before ollie'ing than he did and the front angle was almost too far. If the filmer was like just past the front of the bench and got a side angle he would have looked further away and come towards the lens more and then required some panning near the end of the ollie and you would have gotten more scale.
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he should have used a go pro mouth cam
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just measure the bigness already
13 ft 4 in, going by the number of bricks
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he should have used a go pro mouth cam
Shoulda had a fisheye strapped to his head, pointing directly into his face, like that English trainspotter guy on instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CQ1SHK4DFIh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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When Fred ollied it he was on acid and never filmed it. Now your complaining about angles...get out of here.
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
The unused Angle....
ty evan’s is fuckin fuming right now
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
The unused Angle....
This photo actually says a lot more than it looks. Look at the small benches, they're like 1/3 the size of the big bench, and as people have said - carving the SMALL bench isn't easy.
**edit - if you look closely, the big bench is damn near the same width as the width of a lane on the street below.
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
“Why’d you show us this? That shit is big enough to already see from space…”
-aliens (probably)
The unused Angle....
This photo actually says a lot more than it looks. Look at the small benches, they're like 1/3 the size of the big bench, and as people have said - carving the SMALL bench isn't easy.
**edit - if you look closely, the big bench is damn near the same width as the width of a lane on the street below.
those benches are fucking mean too. Concrete blocks with sharp edges. You come up short on a carve you're either taking a corner to the shin or you take your chances jumping out.
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I thought it was fine, but kudos to op for coming up with quite an interesting topic to discuss
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Of course not! We need drones, VX1000 anlge, VX2000 angle, Hi-8 footy and next time someone needs to get a clip using his Nintendo 3DS
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I didn’t like the edit at first because it went by so fast, that it almost gave me a “that was it?” feeling, but I think it’s because it could have benefited from a slo-mo after all the homies cheering, rather than a different angle. Watching it over and over on IG, it’s def gnarly
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I was talking about this with some friends the other day. That trick is insane.
We've been there and it's literally just a wall that has been slightly pushed back. It's THAT steep.
My friends and I could even roll up the thing, and some other skaters were there as well to look at it.
We couldn't believe it.
That people did tricks on it is absolutely insane.
On top of all that the surface is literally bricks with huge grooves in between them.
If you slam on it you might need some skingrafts, because the sides of the bricks are pretty rough and sharp at the same time.
What T-funk did is mindblowing and I can't get over the fact that this kid can't land a shoe deal.
What more do companies want?
I think it was captured very well although a top/side view truly shows how steep that thing is.
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And maybe it would be a good idea to start a topic about spots that look underwhelming in footage but are huge/hard to skate in real life.
The LA high banks + city hall quarters come to mind ...
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What more do companies want?
More angles apparently
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hahaha :D
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i dont give two shits how it was filmed. it was historic that it even happened imho
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We'll be back after the commercials with an exclusive interview with the bank itself - his early life, immigration to US, from a small brick to a historical bank, facing pidgeon shit and much more.
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Woulda been sick if Spike Jones filmed it and blew up the bench right after he ollied it like MikeMo in Fully Flared
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I was talking about this with some friends the other day. That trick is insane.
We've been there and it's literally just a wall that has been slightly pushed back. It's THAT steep.
My friends and I could even roll up the thing, and some other skaters were there as well to look at it.
We couldn't believe it.
That people did tricks on it is absolutely insane.
On top of all that the surface is literally bricks with huge grooves in between them.
If you slam on it you might need some skingrafts, because the sides of the bricks are pretty rough and sharp at the same time.
What T-funk did is mindblowing and I can't get over the fact that this kid can't land a shoe deal.
What more do companies want?
I think it was captured very well although a top/side view truly shows how steep that thing is.
In my industry, a “no assholes” policy is definitely getting entrenched. Maybe dealing with him isn’t worth the tricks he lands and gnarly tricks don’t always equate to people buying your products
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I think it would have been cool if they got another shot from street level, just to show the risk involved if you fucked up.
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I think it would have been cool if they got another shot from street level, just to show the risk involved if you fucked up.
Agree that it would’ve made for a cool angle, but this begs the question: are there people who ride skateboards who DON’T KNOW that there’s a sizable drop (to the street below, in places, though not where he hit it) on the other side of that wall.
Wonder if it would’ve even been necessary been necessary, given the collective brain of skating.
That last, long bench is mostly over a shorter, but still precarious drop to a small plaza about 15 feet below.
Doesn’t diminish how fucking insanely wild clearing that shit is, though.
Took me years of visiting that spot before I was able carve (barely) over the SHORT bench.
Swear to god I have know idea how he managed to pull that nutty move off.
Big respect to the safety hands man.
Loved it.
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I think it would have been cool if they got another shot from street level, just to show the risk involved if you fucked up.
Wonder if it would’ve even been necessary been necessary, given the collective brain of skating.
That last, long bench is mostly over a shorter, but still precarious drop to a small plaza about 15 feet below.
Doesn’t diminish how fucking insanely wild clearing that shit is, though.
Took me years of visiting that spot before I was able carve (barely) over the SHORT bench.
Swear to god I have know idea how he managed to pull that nutty move off.
Big respect to the safety hands man.
Loved it.
On Slap, I would think most know the potential for disaster. But, among the 12 to 15 year olds Baker is trying to move product too, I have no idea how many know that.
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I was talking about this with some friends the other day. That trick is insane.
We've been there and it's literally just a wall that has been slightly pushed back. It's THAT steep.
My friends and I could even roll up the thing, and some other skaters were there as well to look at it.
We couldn't believe it.
That people did tricks on it is absolutely insane.
Only got to go there once, for about 30 minutes or so, a few years back. I had dreams of doing a few carves over the benches a la Animal Chin, just to say I did them.
I got there and fuck me, they are not ‘banks’, they are ‘mellow walls’.
No one was there, I had the place to myself, but took me many cycles of trying to ride up the banks, being like “fuck this”, giving up, sitting down, and trying again, to figure out just how much speed and the angles I needed to carve just a small bench. I finally did and was so stoked, but yeah, WAY harder than it looks on film.
Anything beyond a carve, much less an ollie over the long bench, is legendary
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I think it would have been cool if they got another shot from street level, just to show the risk involved if you fucked up.
Wonder if it would’ve even been necessary been necessary, given the collective brain of skating.
That last, long bench is mostly over a shorter, but still precarious drop to a small plaza about 15 feet below.
Doesn’t diminish how fucking insanely wild clearing that shit is, though.
Took me years of visiting that spot before I was able carve (barely) over the SHORT bench.
Swear to god I have know idea how he managed to pull that nutty move off.
Big respect to the safety hands man.
Loved it.
i feel like it could maybe look cool as a secondary photo from afar with the city in the background shot on film. where that bench is placed isn’t sitting right on top of the street though where it would look more dangerous/ aesthetically pleasing. it’s still a big drop, it’s just that what is below him is a parking lot on the side of that street. as for footage i think it would be odd to just see his head pop up out of nowhere and fly a foot high and then just sink back down, i don’t think it would fade into the other clips very well. maybe again as a secondary angle for the outro or something but still, i don’t think it would look as cool as we’re imaging. for a lip trick on the other hand i think it would work a bit better possibly.
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The issue I have with it isn't the filming. It's that he doesn't pop until he's already a few feet down the bench. He looked like had the air and distance to clear it, so I think he just mistimed it and that's not really one of those tricks you go back and clean up.
I know I'm picking at the tiniest nit but it's one of those little things that bugs me. To make it even more stupid, if he took off early and landed an equal distance short but was high on the wall and carved the last foot I would think it was the coolest thing ever.
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Just be glad the guy who filmed Masons cover wasn’t involved
which one?
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Just be glad the guy who filmed Masons cover wasn’t involved
which one?
I think this is the one which was in his Nike SB part
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/TH0420Cover.jpg
5:22 timestamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVU9ipxtI_Q
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The issue I have with it isn't the filming. It's that he doesn't pop until he's already a few feet down the bench. He looked like had the air and distance to clear it, so I think he just mistimed it and that's not really one of those tricks you go back and clean up.
I know I'm picking at the tiniest nit but it's one of those little things that bugs me. To make it even more stupid, if he took off early and landed an equal distance short but was high on the wall and carved the last foot I would think it was the coolest thing ever.
Yea OR he should ve jammed onto the bench 8)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXAnuIDRkg/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXAnuIDRkg/)
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Maybe if it wasn’t one of the most well known spots in the most documented skate city on the planet. If aliens came down and said “show me something gnarly”, then, yeah, a little more context would be helpful. But in this case, for such a venerated spot, leaning on a little in-group knowledge is a feature not a bug. Piers Morgan don’t know!
This.
+ People forget or sometimes don't know how difficult it is to do anything on steep banks. If you're not considering this inherent difficulty then footage on these spots deceptively makes tricks seem easier than they actually are
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CRVTJJ4nlMh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
It took almost 30 years to 1up Julien on the biggest bench, that says it all.
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Let’s remember the dude done did it wearing checkered Vans slip-ones, that’s insane.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
Thanks for this pal.
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Seems chill….
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The issue I have with it isn't the filming. It's that he doesn't pop until he's already a few feet down the bench. He looked like had the air and distance to clear it, so I think he just mistimed it and that's not really one of those tricks you go back and clean up.
I know I'm picking at the tiniest nit but it's one of those little things that bugs me. To make it even more stupid, if he took off early and landed an equal distance short but was high on the wall and carved the last foot I would think it was the coolest thing ever.
There's an extremely narrow window to ride up that in between the bench and that metal piece that goes down the bank... probably like 3 feet? That there's no way you could go up that with the amount of speed needed to clear it and not have that angle where you're not at least partially riding above the bench first. The thing is so steep that you have to level out before you pop if you want to stay on the bank side and not go over the edge... tkp's gif really helps show that.
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Beats Strobecks train gap or Masons filmed cover shot.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
that's just silly. There's no reason to even think you could ollie that.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
that's just silly. There's no reason to even think you could ollie that.
Thank you for this video - really nice reminder how fucking crazy T-Funks ollie is.
Woud love to ollie a train track - was dreaming about this for years. Same with a street gap.
This one I go really close with- it was a super small street, run up was perfect - landing was cobble stone style
sketchy... land it a couple of times - but never ride away clean. Coud call it a dirty baker maker.. but I was happy with it.
But woud not think 1 second about to frontside ollie the long china bank bench.
And I am able to frontside ollie kind of every Bank wich is little less then vertical.
But going this distance is absurd.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
Beat perspective of how steep that thing is
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Eli Reed's switch backside carve is also really wild seeing how steep and long the obstacle is from that .gif angle.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
Beat perspective of how steep that thing is
Going to China banks was one of the most humbling experiences I've had skating. I went in pretty confident my first time and was NOT prepared. I've carved one of the small benches and honestly if I didn't know it's already been done, I would've said getting over a long bench is impossible...
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Maybe if he ollied before the bench started they could of used another angle?
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when he goes back to jam it on the bench they'll still fuck it up
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it would be awesome if he ollied it while danny way drops into the china bank from a helicopter and strobeck was filming it prone position under the bench
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Filming sucked. I could barely see his shoes.
(https://i.imgur.com/KsQA20i.jpg)
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some shit is just hard to film and sometimes gnarly stuff just doesn't translate well. I've also seen stuff that looked way gnarlier on footage than it is in real life especially fisheye or really tight long lens. I will say as far as documentation goes a photo is sometimes more impactful than footage and I think this is perhaps the case with this trick. All that said I thought both angles were filmed well.
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should have had a drone shot ;D
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
(https://i.imgur.com/f4OWziO.jpg)
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The issue I have with it isn't the filming. It's that he doesn't pop until he's already a few feet down the bench. He looked like had the air and distance to clear it, so I think he just mistimed it and that's not really one of those tricks you go back and clean up.
I know I'm picking at the tiniest nit but it's one of those little things that bugs me. To make it even more stupid, if he took off early and landed an equal distance short but was high on the wall and carved the last foot I would think it was the coolest thing ever.
That’s the only way it’s possible to do it. He had to ride in the narrow space between the bench and the crack, with an angle that can take him the whole distance. It’s very calculated. He couldn’t have delayed the ollie more either because he would have hit the block on the top. So it’s perfectly excecuted.
(https://i.ibb.co/pfWzTzW/C7955916-3-A24-44-AC-BC56-0-E2-D729-DE2-CF.png) (https://ibb.co/pfWzTzW)
Imagine going that fast and having to dodge the crack and the bench before launching that ollie.
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
(https://i.imgur.com/f4OWziO.jpg)
God dammit, I didn't see the gopro on his head at first lmao
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
(https://i.imgur.com/f4OWziO.jpg)
A+
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2000 slam dunk contest shaq is what killed me
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
(https://i.imgur.com/f4OWziO.jpg)
Hahahahaha this is amazing!
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
lolwut... how is that even possible?
Thanks for sharing! We need way more of this type of shit for skate spots. I hate people just saying "you've got to go there to understand how gnarly it is" when all it takes is some solid photography with the sole intention of explaining the spot.
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Wish I could’ve filmed it I would’ve made it look sick.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
lolwut... how is that even possible?
Thanks for sharing! We need way more of this type of shit for skate spots. I hate people just saying "you've got to go there to understand how gnarly it is" when all it takes is some solid photography with the sole intention of explaining the spot.
For real. I wish skate filmers were more passionate about their job. I’m not trying to travel across the country to see what it’s like when I probably can’t skate the dang thing, but at least give the audience something interesting to watch and give the skater/trick some justice.
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
Jeeeeezus!!
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Just chiming in to share some perspective of what you would see rolling up to the bench:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/b23h5qtRVwkXNYWXSq/giphy.gif)
Jeeeeezus!!
Let’s be real, though…
Those pigeons were NOT there when Trouser made history, so it’s not like he had to clear THEM.
Y’all are SoOo overreacting. ;)
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it was a cover....
they showed every try in the china banks doc.
Trouser was heavily praised for doing it.
He was a conterder for SOTY just from the ollie.
The clip and the photo show his whole body and the whole spot and the board.
What more does a team have to do to capture it really?
(https://i.imgur.com/f4OWziO.jpg)
Hahahahaha this is amazing!
We need 2 more photographers on the buildings behind him sniping with those expensive cameras they use for football games.
(https://i0.wp.com/pixelpluck.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/sigma-200-500mm-lens.jpg)
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who cares? it's not like he did it over subway tracks or anything ???
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Only the Internet could find something wrong with that photo