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Title: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: mattchew on May 22, 2022, 08:18:31 AM
Front foot impossible is indeed a rare bird but still considered canon as far as I’m concerned. Ocean Howell was a prominent practitioner but that was nearly three decades ago and few have stepped up since. Are they in danger of extinction?

How about the switch chain wallet ie switchstance varial flip? Bit of a head turner, maybe some ill received grumblings under an observers breath, perhaps a tinge of jealousy? (you never know!), uncommon for certain but no ones gonna focus your board over that one.

Various heelflip variations also fit the bill, not too many people doing frontside heelflips (that one is a level ten out of ten difficulty) or fakie varial heel on flat. Shoutout Mike Hayes but if you rip a lazerflip for funsies you’re def going to jail so let’s keep this discussion within the bounds of civil society.

What flat ground trick is just not happening midline these days?
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 08:21:59 AM
Inward heelflips are a lost art.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Peter Zagreus on May 22, 2022, 09:40:50 AM
Inward heelflips are a lost art.

was just thinking this the other day. If anything, I guess it's kind of hard to do one without rocketing, so maybe people think the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I don't even see many hardflips these days, but then again, they were never much of a "flat ground" trick.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 09:42:43 AM
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Inward heelflips are a lost art.
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was just thinking this the other day. If anything, I guess it's kind of hard to do one without rocketing, so maybe people think the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I don't even see many hardflips these days, but then again, they were never much of a "flat ground" trick.

I feel like nollie inward heels were more of the fat ground go-to trick.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on May 22, 2022, 09:44:11 AM
Can’t speak on the legality of a fakie v heel but I like them when done proper… maybe a Rick flip also.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: cherry on May 22, 2022, 09:47:00 AM
Chaz Ortiz beat me in a game of skate with a front foot impossible.

Asked him why he hasn’t gotten one in a clip and he said (could be misremembering name) Jason Hernandez called them a gimmick. I think they’re sick tho Tom pennys one in menkimati stands out to me I’ve tried them can’t get close
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: ilchymis on May 22, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
Casper flip/pressure flip variations? Those always seem to confuse and anger people
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: SR ACF on May 22, 2022, 10:00:11 AM
Fakie Hard
Switch Hard

Brandon Turner is on it tho so they'll be back in no time
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: TheLowerBack on May 22, 2022, 10:47:33 AM
Fakie Hard
Switch Hard

Brandon Turner is on it tho so they'll be back in no time
Last year I called fakie hards as the next mid line trick. I feel like I've been seeing it pop up more on IG lately.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 22, 2022, 11:00:57 AM
Chaz Ortiz beat me in a game of skate with a front foot impossible.

Asked him why he hasn’t gotten one in a clip and he said (could be misremembering name) Jason Hernandez called them a gimmick. I think they’re sick tho Tom pennys one in menkimati stands out to me I’ve tried them can’t get close
of all the sweet things Stíz Ortíz does:
Front foot impossible is where he draws that line
i love it
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: LB on May 22, 2022, 11:35:54 AM
ff impossibles, dolphins, inwards, lazers, done right i love em all.  cant do any of them for jack shit though.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on May 22, 2022, 11:47:38 AM
Inward heelflips are a lost art.

The first flip trick I could ever do.

I'm need to relearn them.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: LB on May 22, 2022, 11:49:08 AM
i wanna see someone do a back 3 ff impossible.  so the board looks like it stays still and you do a little pirouette
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Gab on May 22, 2022, 12:01:05 PM
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Inward heelflips are a lost art.
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The first flip trick I could ever do.

I'm need to relearn them.


I vote for fakie inward heel, you just never really see em
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on May 22, 2022, 12:34:36 PM
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Inward heelflips are a lost art.
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The first flip trick I could ever do.

I'm need to relearn them.
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I vote for fakie inward heel, you just never really see em
I fantasize about seeing a fakie inward heel over a bump to bar or bump over something so much. I think they look sick
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on May 22, 2022, 01:05:19 PM
you don't see fs 360 flips too often
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: j....soy..... on May 22, 2022, 01:41:42 PM
Switch inward maybe? 

Re front foot: I can’t get through a week w/o seeing && do one….also Alex Moul is in the starting line up of all time front footers….

Inward: unfortunately Joslin is holding down that trick….

I watched Ted Degros part recently, he’s got a nice one, it gets all in front of him…
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Groondor the Orc on May 22, 2022, 01:56:43 PM
Shove-it rewinds don’t get enough air-time and frontside heel has always been a unicorn.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 02:09:47 PM
you don't see fs 360 flips too often

https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI (https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI)

1:34
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: zahed on May 22, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
fakie hard mid-line is the one i'd like to see more of.

also this will be controversial but id take a few more 3 shuvs, not wrapped in parts. don't understand the hate on those. they are harder than impossibles and 360 flips and take way more control to pull off. sebo is the only one ive seen in recent memory.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Wandalumioshlomo on May 22, 2022, 03:06:21 PM
fs 360 shove-it is pretty rare, but possible to make stylish i´d say.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on May 22, 2022, 03:17:44 PM
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you don't see fs 360 flips too often
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https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI (https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI)

1:34

Sorry I meant with the body turning too like a fs helicopter.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Yonnycage on May 22, 2022, 03:19:50 PM
Nollie fs 3 flip and nollie back 3 heel are two of my favorites
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: TheLurper on May 22, 2022, 03:23:21 PM
3-flip revert is a cool flat-land SKATE trick.

I did a V flip revert once, it felt cool, but probably looked goofy as fuck. <-- looked up youtube videos of this... this might look worse than the pressure flip.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DannyDee on May 22, 2022, 03:42:56 PM
Switch inward maybe? 

Re front foot: I can’t get through a week w/o seeing && do one….also Alex Moul is in the starting line up of all time front footers….

Inward: unfortunately Joslin is holding down that trick….

I watched Ted Degros part recently, he’s got a nice one, it gets all in front of him…
Switch and Nollie Inwards are things of beauty when done right.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: mareo on May 22, 2022, 03:51:47 PM
fs bigspin flip or bs bigspin heelflip
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 03:51:52 PM
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you don't see fs 360 flips too often
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https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI (https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI)

1:34
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Sorry I meant with the body turning too like a fs helicopter.

I’ve seen him do one of those in person. It was like a big spin flip, but frontside.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on May 22, 2022, 04:32:12 PM
switch backside 360, when done properly (aka fully rotated and not a "switch back 180 pivot 180"), is an extremely rare but very legal (imo) flatground trick. if you can throw a flip in there, by all means, but i think just the switch bs 360 is pretty rare and cool on its own
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: offkilter on May 22, 2022, 04:47:36 PM
Can anyone think of a time someone has done a backside 360 heelflip? The kickflip version is pretty common (mike arnold can even do them switch) and I can't recall a single bs 360 heel.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on May 22, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
Can anyone think of a time someone has done a backside 360 heelflip? The kickflip version is pretty common (mike arnold can even do them switch) and I can't recall a single bs 360 heel.

A voice in my mind shouts Chris Cole's name here, but I can't remember where.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 22, 2022, 07:03:25 PM
IMO frontside 3 shuv. I saw someone do it before bombing a hill in SF but I forget which video. That one was awesome.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on May 22, 2022, 07:14:13 PM
I'll go with fakie inward heel, I have trouble recalling even a single one being done on flat in a legit video part. I can't think of a single good looking one either actually (fakie varial heels got a boost when the boss started doing them down stairs)
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on May 22, 2022, 07:27:36 PM
Fakie impossible when done proper. Ultra rare.  Trying to remember which video I saw with one and was stoked.   Key is done proper.  Not the 3-shuv version. 
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DannyDee on May 22, 2022, 07:29:59 PM
I'll go with fakie inward heel, I have trouble recalling even a single one being done on flat in a legit video part. I can't think of a single good looking one either actually (fakie varial heels got a boost when the boss started doing them down stairs)
Lucas has done them from flat up to a fakie manual in his Helas part. Then again, Lucas is a god.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 07:32:52 PM
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I'll go with fakie inward heel, I have trouble recalling even a single one being done on flat in a legit video part. I can't think of a single good looking one either actually (fakie varial heels got a boost when the boss started doing them down stairs)
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Lucas has done them from flat up to a fakie manual in his Helas part. Then again, Lucas is a god.

Stevie’s old homie Sun does one over a trash can on its side off flat as a guest trick in his Chocolate Tour part.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DannyDee on May 22, 2022, 07:54:12 PM
Can anyone think of a time someone has done a backside 360 heelflip? The kickflip version is pretty common (mike arnold can even do them switch) and I can't recall a single bs 360 heel.
Makes sense though. Think about the inverse. How often do you see fs 360 kickflips. Neither are tricks you commonly see. You do occasionally see fs 360 heels (Jake Andrson's in Barca stands out off the top of my head).
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DirtyBurger on May 22, 2022, 07:58:40 PM
I didn't even bother reading through this entire thread because I'm eating soup, but Adam Alfaro is the only person allowed to do dolphin flips on flat.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Mean salto on May 22, 2022, 08:00:38 PM
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Can anyone think of a time someone has done a backside 360 heelflip? The kickflip version is pretty common (mike arnold can even do them switch) and I can't recall a single bs 360 heel.
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Makes sense though. Think about the inverse. How often do you see fs 360 kickflips. Neither are tricks you commonly see. You do occasionally see fs 360 heels (Jake Andrson's in Barca stands out off the top of my head).
I can't think of on flat but wieger did a bunch of back 3 heels. Weirdly back in early 00s I'd see a lot of locals do front 3 kickflips all the time altho they were the Muska type which was the fashion of the time. Louie does one down some stairs in Osiris subject to change and there's that will phan line (2nd clip) https://youtu.be/FNfjoO7J2a4
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: DannyDee on May 22, 2022, 08:04:45 PM
I didn't even bother reading through this entire thread because I'm eating soup, but Adam Alfaro is the only person allowed to do dolphin flips on flat.
You spelled Darrell Stanton wrong.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: silhouette on May 22, 2022, 10:58:47 PM
Fakie impossible when done proper. Ultra rare.  Trying to remember which video I saw with one and was stoked.   Key is done proper.  Not the 3-shuv version.

Ruben Spelta and Chris Athans both do that trick the proper way a lot, maybe you're thinking of either of those two.
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Post by: WadeDes on May 23, 2022, 02:18:35 AM
I have seen Wieger do bs 360 heels on flat for fun and also in some footage (too lazy to search the archives) still very rare and legal. The switch bs 360 (with of without kickflip) is a rare one and almost impossible one, I would like to add the switch fs 360 heel, remember Jesus in fully flared pulling it off and that shit blew my mind back then.
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Post by: newMe on May 23, 2022, 02:32:51 AM
You don't see a switch big flip (Switch big spin flip) that often. Probs because it's so difficult.
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Post by: RoaryMcTwang on May 23, 2022, 02:35:45 AM
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Fakie impossible when done proper. Ultra rare.  Trying to remember which video I saw with one and was stoked.   Key is done proper.  Not the 3-shuv version.
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Ruben Spelta and Chris Athans both do that trick the proper way a lot, maybe you're thinking of either of those two.

Switch impossible is a unicorn as well
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on May 23, 2022, 02:54:25 AM
as a few people have mentioned, impossible feels like the only common trick that you very, very rarely see translated to switch.

tyson bowerbank is pretty much the only person i can remember seeing a switch impossible from.

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Post by: Prostate Exam on May 23, 2022, 03:51:19 AM
I want to see more straight forward kickflips in between lines
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Post by: Roisto on May 23, 2022, 04:34:47 AM
Walker Ryan has a good switch impossible also. Very rare to see one. I love the impossible and doing one switch is some incredible wizardry to me.
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Post by: WadeDes on May 23, 2022, 04:38:48 AM
Zered Bassett has footage of a switch impossible in a line and also a switch 360 shove in a different one. Really love how he made sure these tricks are different.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: QixHexagon on May 23, 2022, 04:53:20 AM
Switch impossible is a unicorn as well

Luan has a nice one, but I've never seen him do it on the streets
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Post by: sk8punk110 on May 23, 2022, 05:58:47 AM
Not flatground but a nice Nollie late backfoot flip looks so good off some stairs
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Post by: Shiro417gunpla on May 23, 2022, 06:24:31 AM
Switch flip cross foot
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Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on May 23, 2022, 07:13:38 AM
y'all will probably come out with a million examples now, but i think regular back heel is another pretty good example of a basic trick that very rarely crops up on flat.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: artskool on May 23, 2022, 07:36:49 AM
A lot of the super techy ones are definitely sliding into illegal territory when most people do them. Fakie FS shove is dead simple, and a pretty elusive one.

http://youtu.be/D_g8idtj-B8?t=252
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on May 23, 2022, 07:40:38 AM
A lot of the super techy ones are definitely sliding into illegal territory when most people do them. Fakie FS shove is dead simple, and a pretty elusive one.

http://youtu.be/D_g8idtj-B8?t=252

properly popped nollie equivalent is possibly even rarer. penny had them in the late 90s, but can't really recall seeing many aside from that.
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Post by: Mean salto on May 23, 2022, 08:16:13 AM
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A lot of the super techy ones are definitely sliding into illegal territory when most people do them. Fakie FS shove is dead simple, and a pretty elusive one.

http://youtu.be/D_g8idtj-B8?t=252
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properly popped nollie equivalent is possibly even rarer. penny had them in the late 90s, but can't really recall seeing many aside from that.
Unfortunately nollie/fakie shoves have a huge overlap with the beginner tricks category. White guys shouldn't do nollie varial heels ever (maybe not even fakie either) good for everyone else tho.
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Post by: silhouette on May 23, 2022, 08:52:04 AM
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Switch impossible is a unicorn as well
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Luan has a nice one, but I've never seen him do it on the streets

I have this theory where on flat impossibles are generally easier over your dominant foot and so to a lot of goofy skaters in particular switch impossible should be easier to learn than regular ollie impossible (since right footed is most common), most people don't try them just because of the name of the trick which sounds a bit daunting (a funny phenomenon in itself). Reason why they're rare as fuck to see over or down something is doing them on flat is one thing but clearing shit with them feels very awkward, comparable to trying switch 360 flip over or down something, one needs especially impeccable speed, timing and (switch) control and so on such terrain regular is always a lot easier.
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Post by: Peter Zagreus on May 23, 2022, 09:53:49 AM
I want to see more straight forward kickflips in between lines

This! I'll take a high-speed rocket kickflip over the obligatory treflip any day.
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Post by: Style Police on May 23, 2022, 10:17:15 AM
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I'll go with fakie inward heel, I have trouble recalling even a single one being done on flat in a legit video part. I can't think of a single good looking one either actually (fakie varial heels got a boost when the boss started doing them down stairs)
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Lucas has done them from flat up to a fakie manual in his Helas part. Then again, Lucas is a god.

Can't think of one on flat but Daewon comes to mind. Also had one down some stairs in his New World Order part (93)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/uwnjEvWvJyIRjbGWUr/giphy.gif)
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Post by: mattchew on May 23, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
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I want to see more straight forward kickflips in between lines
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This! I'll take a high-speed rocket kickflip over the obligatory treflip any day.

I, too, love seeing kickflips in lines. Keep it simple, fools.
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Post by: SatanicPanic on May 23, 2022, 10:38:22 AM
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Switch impossible is a unicorn as well
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Luan has a nice one, but I've never seen him do it on the streets
Wes does them fairly frequently. His ender in a I think the last skate mafia bud was switch tail to switch impossible out.
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: mattchew on May 25, 2022, 05:58:40 AM
I did a nollie varial flip and then regular varial flip in a line on Monday, shout-out Tim O’Connor.
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Post by: bohemian on May 25, 2022, 06:03:25 AM
this thread is so dumb
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Post by: sk8punk110 on May 25, 2022, 06:24:05 AM
this thread is so dumb
Average person who cant nollie inward
Title: Re: What is the most rare “legal” flat ground trick?
Post by: KGB on May 25, 2022, 06:56:14 AM
Nollie varial heel. Chico agrees

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xj9dl1G21Ss
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Post by: rawbertson. on May 25, 2022, 07:13:19 AM
Front foot impossible is indeed a rare bird but still considered canon as far as I’m concerned. Ocean Howell was a prominent practitioner but that was nearly three decades ago and few have stepped up since. Are they in danger of extinction?

How about the switch chain wallet ie switchstance varial flip? Bit of a head turner, maybe some ill received grumblings under an observers breath, perhaps a tinge of jealousy? (you never know!), uncommon for certain but no ones gonna focus your board over that one.

Various heelflip variations also fit the bill, not too many people doing frontside heelflips (that one is a level ten out of ten difficulty) or fakie varial heel on flat. Shoutout Mike Hayes but if you rip a lazerflip for funsies you’re def going to jail so let’s keep this discussion within the bounds of civil society.

What flat ground trick is just not happening midline these days?

fakie heel varials are easier than regular heel varial for me. same with 3 flip. it takes so much less leg power.
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Post by: flippy lippy on May 25, 2022, 07:16:54 AM
mustard flip
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Post by: Robert Baratheon on May 25, 2022, 08:34:14 AM
Y'all beat me to the Fakie Impossible.

Anyone ever see an Inward Heel, Late Frontside Revert before? I don't think I have.

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Post by: BALARGUE on May 25, 2022, 08:52:31 AM
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you don't see fs 360 flips too often
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https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI (https://youtu.be/zQj3L6u6EEI)

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Looks like a 360 hardflip
Am i missing something ?