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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: DaleSr on June 15, 2022, 04:58:34 PM
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https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/
Contact info for the governor. If you're in California, write an email or call your local congressperson to deny gator parole.
Justice for Jessica Bergsten
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don’t need another thread for this asswipe. the oblow one is enough
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The gov of cali denied his parole last time so hopefully it happens again
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Post the news article at least
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/former-skater-mark-gator-rogowski-granted-parole-for-1991-rape-and-murder/509-748fc220-1510-4061-8b80-9085fe106a33
SAN DIEGO — A San Diego County Parole board granted parole to former professional skateboarder and 1980's skating icon Mark "Gator" Rogowski on June 14 for the 1991 brutal rape and murder of a 22-year-old woman in Carlsbad.
And, for the second time since 2019, the District Attorney's Office seeks to overturn the parole board's decision.
“The family and friends of Jessica Bergsten deserve the continued promise of justice in this case,” District Attorney Summer Stephan stated in a June 15 press release, one day after the parole board's decision. “Our office argued strongly against releasing this violent defendant. We handle hundreds of parole hearings each year, fighting when it’s appropriate to make sure dangerous criminals are not released and crime victims are given a voice.”
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https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/
Contact info for the governor. If you're in California, write an email or call your local congressperson to deny gator parole.
Justice for Jessica Bergsten
Thanks for sharing.
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Is he skating on Hosoi’s Instagram yet?
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There's a rival petition.
https://www.change.org/p/gavin-newsom-petition-to-affirm-mark-rogowski-parole-release-c7f32018-8de9-4e5b-a902-335ee651ee6a
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this dude wont get out
then again what do i know, our justice system is a 50/50
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it appears he has people backing him which is the craziest part
he did his time i guess but how do you forgive someone for that? killing and raping an innocent woman? that part is fucking weird. not sure i could forgive a family member for something like that.
you don't.
where can a murderer benefit society?
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Well, this Oblows.
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So weird, I just revisited that Gator documentary just yesterday. I’m all for doing your time and getting a second chance, but there are certain things that entail you never get to see freedom ever again. What he did deserves life. Disgusting
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where can a murderer benefit society?
the army? euthanasia doctor?
This murderer's book on life in prison is a huge contribution to the study of punishment/prison: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/life-without-parole-living-and-dying-prison-today
Also, what is the point of imprisonment? Rehabilitation? Revenge? Retribution? Warehousing people?
What was the parole board's rationale? What is the difference between harsh punishment and smart punishment? (key theme of this guy's work that influenced our constitution https://www.britannica.com/biography/Cesare-Beccaria)?
Also, does Gator have any money? Who is bank rolling his trips to the commissary? If released what will he do for work? Will be a preacher like Hosoi or will he actually have to work for a living?
I don't have an answer to any of these questions.
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I guess the gov is a 9club fan ???
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I'm not a fan of locking up people for life. Even for murder. But this was way more.
To top it all of the dude entered a "innocent" plea at trial. Yeah. Rot in hell. Same with the "Lady Killer" board artist that suppossedly donated the "profits" to a battered women's shelter.
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Rot in hell. Same with the "Lady Killer" board artist that supposedly donated the "profits" to a battered women's shelter.
It's still sus that Vision is re-issuing Gator's board in two sizes and like 30 colorways. If I were Gonz, I'd tell them to stop re-issuing my board as long as Gator still one one.
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-concave-deck-10-25x30-5
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-deck-10-25x29-75
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can we just cut off his legs and give them to cardiel or something?
or they can let him onto 9 club but when he gets there beat him with 9 irons.
(I just googled kelly hart gifs because I wanted a laughing Gif and apparently she is an adult actress, on the work PC)
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can we just cut off his legs and give them to cardiel or something?
or they can let him onto 9 club but when he gets there beat him with 9 irons.
(I just googled kelly hart gifs because I wanted a laughing Gif and apparently she is an adult actress, on the work PC)
So did Kelly hart actually fuck Kelly hart or is that slap legend?
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He could of pulled a mud man maneuver with the whole bending and whatnot
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I suspect that he is still peddling that rough sex story to everyone except the parole board, so I wrote to the Governor referencing the 9 Club debacle.
I have a personal interest in this. Gator's mom moved to my home town after the murders, and it's likely that he'd live there if released.
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I suspect that he is still peddling that rough sex story to everyone except the parole board, so I wrote to the Governor referencing the 9 Club debacle.
I have a personal interest in this. Gator's mom moved to my home town after the murders, and it's likely that he'd live there if released.
(https://images.pepboys.com/fit-in/700x700/images/productImages/34256100/1000-OriginalClub-Primary.jpg)
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you can make this right big dog
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Don’t let this guy out
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fuck gator, hope there'll be no parole for him.
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can we just cut off his legs and give them to cardiel or something?
nah, cardiel is better at street skating now with his legs than gator ever was
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I suspect that he is still peddling that rough sex story to everyone except the parole board, so I wrote to the Governor referencing the 9 Club debacle.
I have a personal interest in this. Gator's mom moved to my home town after the murders, and it's likely that he'd live there if released.
I doubt his parole will actually go through to him being released.
There's enough opposition. He's totally institutionalized (and psychotic) and would be hard fuckin' pressed to become anything like a functioning member of society.
Me thinks even Gator would know better than to use the BS that Oblow spouted as a defense. Again.
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I suspect that he is still peddling that rough sex story to everyone except the parole board, so I wrote to the Governor referencing the 9 Club debacle.
I have a personal interest in this. Gator's mom moved to my home town after the murders, and it's likely that he'd live there if released.
I doubt his parole will actually go through to him being released.
There's enough opposition. He's totally institutionalized (and psychotic) and would be hard fuckin' pressed to become anything like a functioning member of society.
Me thinks even Gator would know better than to use the BS that Oblow spouted as a defense. Again.
CA governors, regardless of their stance on incarceration or political affiliation, have been reluctant to release high profile murderers in recent years. The parole board, on the other hand, is eager to let him out.
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https://www.change.org/p/gavin-newsom-deny-parole-for-mark-gator-rogowski?signed=true
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Rot in hell. Same with the "Lady Killer" board artist that supposedly donated the "profits" to a battered women's shelter.
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-concave-deck-10-25x30-5
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-deck-10-25x29-75
He’s never let ‘em reissue his board. They just do the one they own without his name on.
If he did get out id imagine all the ‘Christian’ skaters like Hosoi and Cab would do some big fuckin forgiveness and loving god rant and have him hang out.
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Rot in hell. Same with the "Lady Killer" board artist that supposedly donated the "profits" to a battered women's shelter.
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-concave-deck-10-25x30-5
https://selectskateshop.com/collections/vision-decks-1/products/vision-gator-ii-deck-10-25x29-75
He’s never let ‘em reissue his board. They just do the one they own without his name on.
If he did get out id imagine all the ‘Christian’ skaters like Hosoi and Cab would do some big fuckin forgiveness and loving god rant and have him hang out.
100% he ends up in a “Glad to have you back” video.
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I’m no legal scholar, and it goes without saying… “heinous crime”, “serve every day of it”, obviously won’t personally support any public facing quarter given to him in the skateboard industry, etc… but just based on his wiki… isn’t his sentence over sometime next year?
Not trolling, not angling for a fight, and certainly not Oblowing… and I’d say sure, posting/petitioning/etc “fuck him” style messages to let companies and old pro’s know that for sure… this dude is as radioactive as he ever was… but I am thinking… get used to the idea of Gator being a free(ish) man in the near future.
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Fuck him
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I doubt he’ll be a part of the skate world in any capacity just by the sheer fact that he is in his mid 50’s and hasn’t stepped on a board in over 30 years. You can’t really just pick up vert like that and obviously the dude wasn’t a street skater.
Gross fuckin dude to say the least.
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Well we are back.
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Wtf with those decks still being sold. Does he still get royalties for that?
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Wtf with those decks still being sold. Does he still get royalties for that?
No. He’s lucky he got any royalties from dorfman, ever.
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Wtf with those decks still being sold. Does he still get royalties for that?
No. He’s lucky he got any royalties from dorfman, ever.
Man, I just went into a deep dive on dorfman. Select Distro site is like a weird alternate reality - I'm amazed that Elephant Brand still exists. I feel gross. I mean more so after this Gator bullshit.
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Gator never prepared to Timecode and it shows
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I doubt he’ll be a part of the skate world in any capacity just by the sheer fact that he is in his mid 50’s and hasn’t stepped on a board in over 30 years. You can’t really just pick up vert like that and obviously the dude wasn’t a street skater.
Gross fuckin dude to say the least.
Agreed. I hope nobody in the industry tries to befriend this guy, even for a scoop
I normally believe in second chances for people who did their time, but hell nah
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where can a murderer benefit society?
the army? euthanasia doctor?
This murderer's book on life in prison is a huge contribution to the study of punishment/prison: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/life-without-parole-living-and-dying-prison-today
Also, what is the point of imprisonment? Rehabilitation? Revenge? Retribution? Warehousing people?
What was the parole board's rationale? What is the difference between harsh punishment and smart punishment? (key theme of this guy's work that influenced our constitution https://www.britannica.com/biography/Cesare-Beccaria)?
Also, does Gator have any money? Who is bank rolling his trips to the commissary? If released what will he do for work? Will be a preacher like Hosoi or will he actually have to work for a living?
I don't have an answer to any of these questions.
Bumping a month old thread, but from what I read he has a job waiting for him as a legal aid. I don’t know about this one, I don’t want to touch it. I’m all for prison reform, second chances and rehabilitation, but this one is tough.. i do not know the guy, I came up in skateboarding around a lot of the old pro legends/icons and it seems that the majority of them believe that gator deserves a second chance and that what he did is truly not who he is (that’s pretty hard to fathom though because he did commit those heinous and disgustingly horrible crimes) But like I said, I don’t know the guy and rape, along with murdering a defenseless woman is definitely a non-forgivable offense.. so I’m going to go with “no”. He probably dosent deserve the second chance morally speaking. But the court’s conviction and sentencing in his case did leave the chance for parole when they sentenced him, (life with the possibility of parole in 25 to 30 years, so not life without parole) not that that makes him deserve that chance.
Side note, that first link was a good read lurper, the second link you posted dosent work anymore unfortunately….
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30 years is a long time in prison, is there even any point to letting him out? How can you go back into society after that long.
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30 years is a long time in prison, is there even any point to letting him out? How can you go back into society after that long.
You really can’t, it’s a mission to set you up for failure
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Do you think he'll kibosh again?
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Wtf with those decks still being sold. Does he still get royalties for that?
No. He’s lucky he got any royalties from dorfman, ever.
I think he does and they all go to battered women causes. I guess someone has all of his things from before he went to jail and he had them sell his board collection on eBay to support battered women causes, I think he raised a decent amount of money. Still doesn't change the fuck shit he did but at least it's something.
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Wtf with those decks still being sold. Does he still get royalties for that?
No. He’s lucky he got any royalties from dorfman, ever.
The reissues either just have "Gator" or "Vision" and not the full name. He does the same thing with the Gonz reissues. All money is pocketed by Dorfman and nothing goes to any causes.
I still don't see that parole has been reversed, but I'd be surprised if it's not. Otherwise, I could see Cab riding motorcycles with him.
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FREE TK
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Gator nine club upcoming.
Chris: So we all know what happened so we aren't going to speak on that...Some things ya know, anyway.
Kelly: yeah so dude, what was the food like in prison? Any good food stories?
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For those that dont know, Gator has 60-90 days before he is released. The governor has the ability to reverse his parole.
Petition is here: https://www.change.org/p/stop-parole-of-rapist-murderer-mark-rogowski?recruiter=1271255248&recruited_by_id=b6708e60-0320-11ed-9c63-fd7095b9f503&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_content=cl_sharecopy_33930304_en-US%3A4
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FREE TK
NO!
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NO!
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I could see him on Dead End skateboards.
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where can a murderer benefit society?
the army? euthanasia doctor?
This murderer's book on life in prison is a huge contribution to the study of punishment/prison: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/life-without-parole-living-and-dying-prison-today
Also, what is the point of imprisonment? Rehabilitation? Revenge? Retribution? Warehousing people?
What was the parole board's rationale? What is the difference between harsh punishment and smart punishment? (key theme of this guy's work that influenced our constitution https://www.britannica.com/biography/Cesare-Beccaria)?
Also, does Gator have any money? Who is bank rolling his trips to the commissary? If released what will he do for work? Will be a preacher like Hosoi or will he actually have to work for a living?
I don't have an answer to any of these questions.
Do you have another link to the first link you posted in your comment? I tried to download the story and it froze after the first couple of pages.
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Parole reversed by Governor.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/governor-reverses-parole-for-former-pro-skater-mark-gator-rogowski/509-8422b3e2-24dd-41d0-988a-7ec93b3255e7 (https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/governor-reverses-parole-for-former-pro-skater-mark-gator-rogowski/509-8422b3e2-24dd-41d0-988a-7ec93b3255e7)
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D. doomed
A. asshole
L. Loathing
E. ethernet
S.swaying
R.Reality
ps. fuck you
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Parole reversed by Governor.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/governor-reverses-parole-for-former-pro-skater-mark-gator-rogowski/509-8422b3e2-24dd-41d0-988a-7ec93b3255e7 (https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/governor-reverses-parole-for-former-pro-skater-mark-gator-rogowski/509-8422b3e2-24dd-41d0-988a-7ec93b3255e7)
Attaboy Gav
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Served his time, should be set free
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Is Gator a threat to society today? I’d venture a guess no.
Does the Governor want this to become a potential Willie Horton issue as he seeks higher office? No.
Politics wins.
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Is Gator a threat to society today? I’d venture a guess no.
Does the Governor want this to become a potential Willie Horton issue as he seeks higher office? No.
Politics wins.
GTFO. He needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. This isn't about politics. It's about justice.
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Is Gator a threat to society today? I’d venture a guess no.
Does the Governor want this to become a potential Willie Horton issue as he seeks higher office? No.
Politics wins.
GTFO. He needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. This isn't about politics. It's about justice.
Agreed. What a POS.. I'll always remember "the other guys" 'gator needs his gat you punk ass bitch." Such an awesome movie.
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Served his time, should be set free
Ok he can stay at your female relatives house while he gets his life together post prison. Hope whoever she is, she's not blonde and pretty.
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Is Gator a threat to society today? I’d venture a guess no.
Does the Governor want this to become a potential Willie Horton issue as he seeks higher office? No.
Politics wins.
GTFO. He needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. This isn't about politics. It's about justice.
Agreed. What a POS.. I'll always remember "the other guys" 'gator needs his gat you punk ass bitch." Such an awesome movie.
Anyone who rapes and murders should never be released. Murder is one thing but raping her and burying her in a surf bag in the desert are aggravators just to top it off. Guy is a demon, the way he murdered her was beyond brutal.
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some people really are desensitized to death these days. she was 22. he deserves to rot in a hole for the rest of his life for cutting hers short. eye for an eye.
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some people really are desensitized to death these days. she was 22. he deserves to rot in a hole for the rest of his life for cutting hers short. eye for an eye.
wouldn't "eye for an eye" mean executing him?
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some people really are desensitized to death these days. she was 22. he deserves to rot in a hole for the rest of his life for cutting hers short. eye for an eye.
wouldn't "eye for an eye" mean executing him?
Assuming the rape part has been taken care of.
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some people really are desensitized to death these days. she was 22. he deserves to rot in a hole for the rest of his life for cutting hers short. eye for an eye.
wouldn't "eye for an eye" mean executing him?
Assuming the rape part has been taken care of.
Good points, it’s actually quite remarkable he has lasted this long alive.
You always hear fathers say “if that happened to my daughter I’d yadayadayada…”
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some people really are desensitized to death these days. she was 22. he deserves to rot in a hole for the rest of his life for cutting hers short. eye for an eye.
wouldn't "eye for an eye" mean executing him?
also doesn’t it, you know, make the whole world blind? and doesn’t that saying derive from the advisement against retribution based judgement?
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Bun fya pon gator
Selassie I judgement
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bring back the death penalty for all murderers and rapers. i don't count self defense or re-venge killings the same way. if the family killed gator, go light.
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Served his time, should be set free
Nope. Fuck him.
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Served his time, should be set free
I'm more vibin' on the 'for life' part.
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Served his time, should be set free
With you radcunt
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bring back the death penalty for all murderers and rapers. i don't count self defense or re-venge killings the same way. if the family killed gator, go light.
that's some middle age take
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bring back the death penalty for all murderers and rapers. i don't count self defense or re-venge killings the same way. if the family killed gator, go light.
You mean rappers?
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Served his time, should be set free
Yeah for sure. And just skimming that article, it doesn’t fill you with confidence.
Like this comment from his attorney; “Sheppard says Rogowski created his own self-help program called, "Gender Abuse Prevention" and worked with those who, like him, suffered abuse as a child, and had a history of brain injuries from skateboarding”.....so Gator made a self hellp group for himself? Or is there a whole bunch of brain injured abused skaters in gaol for rape and murder?? Or was that just a chance to highlight the child abuse and headknocks as mitigation again. And that lack of responsibility seems to be what Newsom sites in repealing the parole, that Gator’s; “recent verbal disagreement with another prisoner and Rogowski's inability to understand what caused him to act in such a violent way are reasons for his decision to repeal the parole board's decision”.
Even Gator’s attorney says; "Mark Rogowski knows he does not deserve anything, and he feels great compassion for the wishes of his victim's family,". Ok, well they don’t want you out. Done.
And shit like this (from attorney); “he is confident in his recovery, and that he can be an even greater asset to society in the free community, where he can speak out about toxic masculinity and violence against women on a broader platform”. Huh, you think that you should “speak out” about your crimes “on a broader platform”...yeah, nah, you’re nobody’s role model or life lesson, dickhead.
“And his friends and family are innocent in this; they do not deserve his continued unwarranted incarceration" and “Sheppard says Newsom failed to take into account Rogowski's history with brain injuries and his struggle with substance abuse”....so he should be let out because of his friends and family, and because he’s a brain damaged junkie? Nope. That’s not it either. Dudes fried. Glad the wishes of the victims family are being respected.
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Served his time, should be set free
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it appears he has people backing him which is the craziest part
he did his time i guess but how do you forgive someone for that? killing and raping an innocent woman? that part is fucking weird. not sure i could forgive a family member for something like that.
you don't.
where can a murderer benefit society?
the capital January 6.
Any kkk rally
Any hunting lodge on earth.
The home of the fake ass Chinese communist who owns NHS.
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This clip always puts a nice spin on the name Gator for me...a pallet cleanser, if you will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyjEAvIKD5c
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Seems like the right place for this
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDnvPrqf/D2166-BF9-A87-C-466-C-9-DA6-952-A161-D5697.jpg)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/02/florida-alligator-drinks-diet-coke
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This clip always puts a nice spin on the name Gator for me...a pallet cleanser, if you will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyjEAvIKD5c
Yes. Good stuff
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Daaaaamnnnn Oblow is going to be bummed he doesn't get to kick it with one of his good 'ol boys.
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dated brandi's sister for a couple of years on and off, brandi was kinda the worst
but yeah jessica didn't deserve this and mark deserves to get his wig split
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D. doomed
A. asshole
L. Loathing
E. ethernet
S.swaying
R.Reality
ps. fuck you
Lol did you do one of these when you were 6yo that made your teacher laugh so you’ve been doing them ever since?
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you guys run some type terrible swarm intelligence on here.
its mental this guy has kept tabs and aired out some criminals court case.
Next you got some old man supposedly writing letters to the governor of california.
i dont really care, especially to get proactive on the web. i dont really chase clout or anything
i just dont care for this dalesr guy seems like a good person but he writes like a stuck up karen.
"back to twitter with you" like some kind of off with there heads alice in wonderland lsd shitty old disney cartoon lover.
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D. doomed
A. asshole
L. Loathing
E. ethernet
S.swaying
R.Reality
ps. fuck you
Lol did you do one of these when you were 6yo that made your teacher laugh so you’ve been doing them ever since?
you have a bunk name don't quote me.
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you guys run some type terrible swarm intelligence on here.
its mental this guy has kept tabs and aired out some criminals court case.
Next you got some old man supposedly writing letters to the governor of california.
i dont really care, especially to get proactive on the web. i dont really chase clout or anything
i just dont care for this dalesr guy seems like a good person but he writes like a stuck up karen.
"back to twitter with you" like some kind of off with there heads alice in wonderland lsd shitty old disney cartoon lover.
(https://www.zodiackiller.com/images/340cardback.gif)
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you guys run some type terrible swarm intelligence on here.
its mental this guy has kept tabs and aired out some criminals court case.
Next you got some old man supposedly writing letters to the governor of california.
i dont really care, especially to get proactive on the web. i dont really chase clout or anything
i just dont care for this dalesr guy seems like a good person but he writes like a stuck up karen.
"back to twitter with you" like some kind of off with there heads alice in wonderland lsd shitty old disney cartoon lover.
I was going to ask who hurt you, but then I read your post and answered my own question.
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the parole board saw his street footy
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O'Dale rules.
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In general, I believe in rehabilitation. But, certain things are so heinous you should never see the light of day again. What Gator did qualifies for that. Compulsion-based crimes tend to have higher re-offending rates such as rapists and pedophiles. A young gangbanger who committed a gang-related murder at 18 is likely different than the man released at 40 as long as he isn't fully institutionalized and has some options coming out.
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I’m really not sure why this thread has been BUMPED but I hope this dude will remain in prison for the rest of his life.
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Jail should be reserved for the privileged and empowered abusing their power. Rehabilitation is for people who made mistakes. This wasn’t a mistake.
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Jail should be reserved for the privileged and empowered abusing their power. Rehabilitation is for people who made mistakes. This wasn’t a mistake.
As much as I don’t want to talk about it, it makes no sense how Mark “didn’t know” through out the 3 plus decades of how this occurred. If you were homies with Gator, couldn’t you tell if the dude had mental issues? Calling him “a total normal cool dude” is complete the opposite of who he is.
I wasn’t born the time of and not being acquaintance with Gator, I know the truth but not him.
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you have a bunk name don't quote me.
Sig’d
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I wonder how much tax money has been wasted on feeding and shit for this scumbag.
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I wonder how much tax money has been wasted on feeding and shit for this scumbag.
a grain of sand on a beach compared to the tax money that gets wasted liquifying brown people oceans away, but tu n’es pas français anyway?
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I wonder how much tax money has been wasted on feeding and shit for this scumbag.
significantly less than if he was on death row
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I wonder how much tax money has been wasted on feeding and shit for this scumbag.
Isn't it like $60K a year per inmate to keep them locked up?
Also fuck Vision for still selling Gator decks..even Gator said he hopes that the family got royalties.
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ppl who buy gator boards are goofy af i dont understand why youd want that in your home
why would you want to look at that knowing what kind of sick fuck he was
fucking pricks
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Gator hides behind god in the joint, he deserves nothing but the worst.
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I wonder how much tax money has been wasted on feeding and shit for this scumbag.
Yeah, Death penalty cases cost a shit ton because of how much resources it takes up from the government to staff the mandatory appeals both in lawyers allocated to it, and court time it uses.
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you guys run some type terrible swarm intelligence on here.
its mental this guy has kept tabs and aired out some criminals court case.
Next you got some old man supposedly writing letters to the governor of california.
i dont really care, especially to get proactive on the web. i dont really chase clout or anything
i just dont care for this dalesr guy seems like a good person but he writes like a stuck up karen.
"back to twitter with you" like some kind of off with there heads alice in wonderland lsd shitty old disney cartoon lover.
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hahahahaha