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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zfmNE2Wc&feature=share
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.
And what the fuck is this dude doing on vacation? Western civilization on the verge of collapse and this dude is chillin at the beach.
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I've fallen of a barstool before once. As long as u pop right back up, u good. I seen another guy fall of his barstool and like lay on the ground for a while to the point where the bartender jumped over the bar and tried to pretty much give him CPR.
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It’s gotta be a nightmare as one of his secret service agents to help him in situations like generally existing while doing pedestrian things
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I'm so glad the only things separating us from more trump is a crew of doddering fossils.
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His appearance on Jimmy Kimmel was pretty terrifying as well. He could barely mutter out a complete sentence, let alone actually begin to address any of the grave and very real problems we’re facing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVG6-qWjXMo&feature=share
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(https://i.ibb.co/JHKhBgG/Screenshot-20220618-235524-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FzKPxCy)
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Biden has always struggled to finish his thought before starting a new one. He is a terrible public speaker and always has been.
However, the clip circulating on the right-wing shows isn't a fair representation of Biden's performance Kimmel. Especially this Dore clip, which is presented in a way to demonize him.
That being said, I can't even imagine what the 2024 election will look like if it is Biden and Trump again. They're both old as dirt and both are terrible public speakers in different ways: Trump does three word superficial thoughts, which he jams together loudly and Biden tries to overcomplicate things in thoughts that never come to an end. We definitely need someone younger (sorry Bill Maher... as a side note, I enjoy Bill Maher but he is beyond wrong when it comes to his critiques of millennials and his complaints of age-ism when it comes to old people).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZmZe7fe3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opVaEC_WxWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEtPV-qvLe8
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
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However, the clip circulating on the right-wing shows isn't a fair representation of Biden's performance Kimmel. Especially this Dore clip, which is presented in a way to demonize him.
He’s a liberal though.
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
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Ridin' with Biden
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Ridin' with Biden
They see me bikin
They hatin
Patrollin and tryna catch me Biden dirty
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i can’t believe i got guilted into voting for this dude
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_ww66EeN8
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
Was about to say this. Many fools have fallen from clip-ins, president or not
Geriatric fucks don’t have reflexes of course J.R. was going down
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
Was about to say this. Many fools have fallen from clip-ins, president or not
Geriatric fucks don’t have reflexes of course J.R. was going down
Ya, I didn't really think of that. Even experienced cyclists fall over with clipless(clip in) pedals.
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
Was about to say this. Many fools have fallen from clip-ins, president or not
Geriatric fucks don’t have reflexes of course J.R. was going down
Ya, I didn't really think of that. Even experienced cyclists fall over with clipless(clip in) pedals.
What is the key benefit of clip ins? Idea of being locked onto the bicycle terrifies me.
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
Was about to say this. Many fools have fallen from clip-ins, president or not
Geriatric fucks don’t have reflexes of course J.R. was going down
Ya, I didn't really think of that. Even experienced cyclists fall over with clipless(clip in) pedals.
What is the key benefit of clip ins? Idea of being locked onto the bicycle terrifies me.
They make pedalling more efficient. You're now pulling on the upstroke rather than your leg sitting in the pedal like dead weight.
But yeah I don't know a single clip in rider of any age that hasn't fallen when slowing down.
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They make you feel more "in tune" with your bike. Your feet are also in exactly the same position every time which is a big deal on a well fitting bike. It sounds dumb, but cyclists swear by it.
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I'm not a cyclist but it makes sense to me.
Most people you see biking are using the middle of their feet
Clip ins make you use the front of your feet which is how you're supposed to cycle
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Yeah and you get to clip-clop around in your special ed shoes when you hop off the bike which is a big plus.
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Yeah and you get to clip-clop around in your special ed shoes when you hop off the bike which is a big plus.
LMAO yeah that part must suck
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They didn't dress him up in clipless pedals, but he did have Huffy toe straps which can be a challenge the first time you use them. There were kids in the crowd for him to sniff and maybe he wanted to show them it was okay to fall of your bike?
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/biden-bike-2.jpg)
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Fuck anyone over the age of 75 that's still in politics.
GET OUT and make room for people with energy, perspective, knowledge, technological prowess, googling skills, and a hunger to actually HELP PEOPLE.
they walk in with a net worth of 250k and leave 25 years later with a net worth of 20 million
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Fuck anyone over the age of 75 that's still in politics.
GET OUT and make room for people with energy, perspective, knowledge, technological prowess, googling skills, and a hunger to actually HELP PEOPLE.
they walk in with a net worth of 250k and leave 25 years later with a net worth of 20 million
Agreed. I don’t feel like we owe them anything. It’s not in the public’s best interest having someone nearly 80 doing one of (if not the) most important, most demanding jobs in the country. I want someone in there working their ass off for us every day.
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To be fair, he's got those hooks on the pedals. Might have not gotten out of the right one in time.
Was about to say this. Many fools have fallen from clip-ins, president or not
Geriatric fucks don’t have reflexes of course J.R. was going down
Ya, I didn't really think of that. Even experienced cyclists fall over with clipless(clip in) pedals.
What is the key benefit of clip ins? Idea of being locked onto the bicycle terrifies me.
It allows you to use 50% hamstrings and 50% quadriceps, where regular pedals you’re using 100% quadriceps. It’s makes pedaling easier and less exhaustive, especially on longer rides…but that’s not shit a 80 year old nigga should worry about.
Honestly blame the Democratic Party because they begged Biden to run, he knew his ass was too old. And they all backed out at once for damn near no reason during the primaries. Because older black southern voters liked him? Older black southern voters hate republicans more than anything they were going to back anybody democrat as long as the candidate wasn’t a complete asshole.
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Be nice to Biden, he's our last line of defense against a full on Republican coup.
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Be nice to Biden, he's our last line of defense against a full on Republican coup.
That's a lot less comforting than you think it is
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nobody is putting clipless pedals on some hybrid that will only ever see the 1 mile of a paved trail around a pond. foot retention is a must but joe really needed some monster flat pedals
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I used to ride clip in on a fixie. Used to because I pretty much front flipped on my bike on a bad day. Soon after, the fixie was relegated to a trainer.
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Despite riding them myself, I’m a bit Riv-pilled when it comes to clipless pedals. They provide a few advantages for very specific race and race-like riding, which is why I still have them, but 99% of cyclists would be better off with a pair of basic flats with metal pins - something like a Race Face Chester.
Also Biden is clearly senile and manifestly unable to do the job of being president. His rise to the nomination was solely in order to stop Bernie and prevent any institutional challenge to the moribund political structure of the Democrats, and it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than that and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since. It is just a rotten organization from top to bottom, bested in their awfulness only by their rivals.
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Despite riding them myself, I’m a bit Riv-pilled when it comes to clipless pedals. They provide a few advantages for very specific race and race-like riding, which is why I still have them, but 99% of cyclists would be better off with a pair of basic flats with metal pins - something like a Race Face Chester.
Also Biden is clearly senile and manifestly unable to do the job of being president. His rise to the nomination was solely in order to stop Bernie and prevent any institutional challenge to the moribund political structure of the Democrats, and it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than that and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since. It is just a rotten organization from top to bottom, bested in their awfulness only by their rivals.
the clip ins just feel so much more efficient compared to my old pedals, they def arent for everyone tho
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Despite riding them myself, I’m a bit Riv-pilled when it comes to clipless pedals. They provide a few advantages for very specific race and race-like riding, which is why I still have them, but 99% of cyclists would be better off with a pair of basic flats with metal pins - something like a Race Face Chester.
Also Biden is clearly senile and manifestly unable to do the job of being president. His rise to the nomination was solely in order to stop Bernie and prevent any institutional challenge to the moribund political structure of the Democrats, and it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than that and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since. It is just a rotten organization from top to bottom, bested in their awfulness only by their rivals.
Biden was knee-capped by Joe 'The Coal-Man' Manchin and Kooky Kyrsten Sinema. These two assholes fucked us over. The initial plan was good and now we are just going into re-election mode, which means the end taking on big controversial changes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/sanders-manchin-and-sinema-sabotaged-the-biden-agenda-140039237826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnn8xEj138
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Despite riding them myself, I’m a bit Riv-pilled when it comes to clipless pedals. They provide a few advantages for very specific race and race-like riding, which is why I still have them, but 99% of cyclists would be better off with a pair of basic flats with metal pins - something like a Race Face Chester.
Also Biden is clearly senile and manifestly unable to do the job of being president. His rise to the nomination was solely in order to stop Bernie and prevent any institutional challenge to the moribund political structure of the Democrats, and it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than that and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since. It is just a rotten organization from top to bottom, bested in their awfulness only by their rivals.
Biden was knee-capped by Joe 'The Coal-Man' Manchin and Kooky Kyrsten Sinema. These two assholes fucked us over. The initial plan was good and now we are just going into re-election mode, which means the end taking on big controversial changes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/sanders-manchin-and-sinema-sabotaged-the-biden-agenda-140039237826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnn8xEj138
lol sure dude
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
Both are extremely major.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
and that's the fault of the current administration? I dislike it as much as the next guy, probably more, but I don't understand how that makes any sense outside the possibility of JB going full on FDR with public works and the like.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
Write your local representatives and encourage them to turn the gas price knob down a bit.
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lol sure dude
Not sure why you bring up/promote Bernie in your post and then disregard Bernie's assessment of the situation.
Meet the Press host: "Why do we have nothing?"
Bernie: "Sen Manchin and Sen Sinema have sabotaged what the president has been fighting for...
...You have 48 members of the Senate who wanted to go forward with an agenda that helped working families that was prepared to take on the wealthy and the powerful. You had a president who wanted to do that; you had two people who prevented us from doing that."
@manysnakes response to Bernie: "Lol, sure dude."
This doesn't add up.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
How does no one remember Trump asking Saudi Arabia to reduce oil production in order to raise oil prices? Trump wanted less oil to make sure the oil companies could make more money.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-trump-saudi-specialreport-idUSKBN22C1V4
And, while I'd like to see intense supply side responses to global inflation rates post-pandemic rather than trying to reduce spending, what is your response to reducing inflation outside of the standard response to slow on the economy on purpose?
Note: It is interesting that we didn't frame housing or stock prices shooting to the moon as inflation during the pandemic, instead we said asset values are rising. This is an interesting slight of hand if you think in of this in terms of class: prices shooting to moon for things that older/richer people own is good, but wages or simple goods increasing in cost is the end of the world and we all need to freak out because the economy is "collapsing" despite high levels of employment and lots of open positions. ::)
I don't give a fuck about a banana or some garbage plastic toy costing 8% more than it did a year ago... I care about housing costing 36% more than it did at the start of the pandemic.
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Thanks @TheLurper
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
Both are extremely major.
Anytime you don't let corporations run wild, unfettered, prices raise as the corporations try to pass the loss down to the consumer so they can maintain their bottom line. I think the owness here doesn't fall squarely on the Biden Administration.
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Not sure why you bring up/promote Bernie in your post and then disregard Bernie's assessment of the situation.
Meet the Press host: "Why do we have nothing?"
Bernie: "Sen Manchin and Sen Sinema have sabotaged what the president has been fighting for...
...You have 48 members of the Senate who wanted to go forward with an agenda that helped working families that was prepared to take on the wealthy and the powerful. You had a president who wanted to do that; you had two people who prevented us from doing that."
@manysnakes response to Bernie: "Lol, sure dude."
How is my mention of the historical fact of Democrats rallying to stop Bernie relevant to his opinion as stated on "Meet The Press"? There is absolutely no connection there.
What happened to the Biden who said that Republicans were going to work with him? That they would come to their senses? It was just bluster, everyone who bothers to pay any attention at all knows that if the Democrats had 52 senators, they'd have three or four holdouts, or a litany of other excuses for why nothing is going to get done. The Democrats are no longer a party insofar as a cohesive political organization with the means to impose discipline their members - it's just a brand that increasingly fewer and fewer people are interested in buying. The shit is completely out of gas and the Democrats are at least as culpable as the Republicans of standing in the way of progress. A completely hollow, rotten institution which is a an election cycle or two away from being in a permanent minority at the federal level, something they have taken exactly no action to stop. It doesn't matter, because they will continue to fundraise off of the loss of abortion rights, the end of the minimum wage, and whatever other revanchist insanity the Republicans have in store. Hence the Iron Law of Institutions.
Biden could absolutely impose price controls on gasoline - Nixon did just that in 1971. He's not going to because he's a senile old gargoyle who only understands things through the lens of his century in the Senate. All this shit about "not having the votes" is just the same defeatist rhetoric that the Democrats always resort to when they're in power. Just complete loser shit.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
Living my life.
Care to enlighten me on the major blunders?
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They took our jobs
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
Living my life.
Care to enlighten me on the major blunders?
Afghanistan was inspiring...but i'm sure that can be spun in myriad ways
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
and that's the fault of the current administration? I dislike it as much as the next guy, probably more, but I don't understand how that makes any sense outside the possibility of JB going full on FDR with public works and the like.
JB is vocally trying to engineer mass unemployment and trigger a collapse to combat inflation as a litany of places start to unionize.
talk about trump all you want- he sucked. biden is supposed to be building back better and instead he’s throwing billions of dollars into an unaudited black hole labeled “war in ukraine” and actively dissuading the peace process over there. fuck this fool.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
Living my life.
Care to enlighten me on the major blunders?
Afghanistan was inspiring...but i'm sure that can be spun in myriad ways
I will cede that could have been handled better.
Still, would rather have Biden in office than Trump.
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
Living my life.
Care to enlighten me on the major blunders?
Afghanistan was inspiring...but i'm sure that can be spun in myriad ways
I will cede that could have been handled better.
Still, would rather have Biden in office than Trump.
oh yeah, i know...and that's definitely a key factor in dealing honestly and practically with how great things are for the poor and working people of this country...
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
gas is 5 dollars a gallon and we’re on the knife edge of economic collapse
and that's the fault of the current administration? I dislike it as much as the next guy, probably more, but I don't understand how that makes any sense outside the possibility of JB going full on FDR with public works and the like.
JB is vocally trying to engineer mass unemployment and trigger a collapse to combat inflation as a litany of places start to unionize.
talk about trump all you want- he sucked. biden is supposed to be building back better and instead he’s throwing billions of dollars into an unaudited black hole labeled “war in ukraine” and actively dissuading the peace process over there. fuck this fool.
Completely agree.
But look on the bright side, at least all the economy-crippling sanctions are working exactly as planned…
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/russia-ruble-multi-year-high-sanctions
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I haven't seen any major blunders by Joe Biden thus far. Better than the gigantic, dangerous shit show we had for the 4 previous years and of which we were staring down the barrel of another 4 years.
paying a lot of attention are ya?
Living my life.
Care to enlighten me on the major blunders?
Afghanistan was inspiring...but i'm sure that can be spun in myriad ways
One of a handful of good things he has done, which he immediately offset by getting the US involved in a proxy war with a nuclear power.
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How is my mention of the historical fact of Democrats rallying to stop Bernie relevant to his opinion as stated on "Meet The Press"? There is absolutely no connection there.
What happened to the Biden who said that Republicans were going to work with him? That they would come to their senses? It was just bluster, everyone who bothers to pay any attention at all knows that if the Democrats had 52 senators, they'd have three or four holdouts, or a litany of other excuses for why nothing is going to get done. The Democrats are no longer a party insofar as a cohesive political organization with the means to impose discipline their members - it's just a brand that increasingly fewer and fewer people are interested in buying. The shit is completely out of gas and the Democrats are at least as culpable as the Republicans of standing in the way of progress. A completely hollow, rotten institution which is a an election cycle or two away from being in a permanent minority at the federal level, something they have taken exactly no action to stop. It doesn't matter, because they will continue to fundraise off of the loss of abortion rights, the end of the minimum wage, and whatever other revanchist insanity the Republicans have in store. Hence the Iron Law of Institutions.
Biden could absolutely impose price controls on gasoline - Nixon did just that in 1971. He's not going to because he's a senile old gargoyle who only understands things through the lens of his century in the Senate. All this shit about "not having the votes" is just the same defeatist rhetoric that the Democrats always resort to when they're in power. Just complete loser shit.
I disagree on a few points because:
1) I worry you are moving the goal posts or pretending not to understand what we are discussing:
A) Manysnakes "it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than [blocking Bernie] and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since." (maybe I read this wrong?).
B) Bernie, "Biden had a plan to challenge the wealthy and powerful and it was sabotaged by 2 members"
C) Manysnakes, "What does this have to do with what I said?"
D)It obviously relates as you accused Biden of have zero plans other than blocking Bernie. Bernie says otherwise.
2) You are holding two opposing opinions at the same time:
A) Dems are a cohesive group who worked together to block Bernie from getting power.
B) Dems aren't even a party because only 96% of Dem Senators vote with the president and the House easily passes all his ideas. The two key hold-outs in the Senate are evidence that the entire party has failed.
3)Dems are as responsible as Republicans.
A) How can anyone make this accusation with a straight face. Are you watching the Jan 6 investigation hearings? The two parties are equally bad?
B) Have you forgotten what McConnell's role in the Senate is?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/05/mitch-mcconnell-joe-biden-obstruction
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/2014-election-mitch-mcconnells-barack-obama-confrontation-110154
4) Impose price controls on gas:
A) I agree with limiting profit on oil, hell, I'd back only allowing state owned oil companies (Norway's state owned oil company seems to have worked well for the country and Canada getting rid of theirs only enriched American and Chinese oil companies). BUT a price control would be political suicide. The complaints of "socialism" when it comes to wearing a mask were insane. Actually setting the price of goods would set the right wing machine into overdrive.
B) How did the Nixon's attempt to engage in price control work when Nixon tried it out? What actually happens in these moments?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nixon-fight-inflation-price-controls-stagflation-gas-shortages-biden-democrats-reconciliation-bill-federal-reserve-11628885071 (I think the WSJ is obviously biased... so I am open to better sources/evolutions).
C) I disagree we should be making it easier to drive from place to place. And, this comes out as harsh, but Americans need to learn how to walk and ride their bikes. Out of all the places I've lived, Americans are the absolute best at coming up with lame excuses not to have to move their bodies.
C2) The disconnect between work and home was a horrible mistake and this is an opportunity to change it. Cheap low density suburban housing was a huge mistake and we are paying the costs.
C3) The correct solution is to let the suburbs die, while lowering cost of housing in cities (or turning the suburbs into cities)
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How is my mention of the historical fact of Democrats rallying to stop Bernie relevant to his opinion as stated on "Meet The Press"? There is absolutely no connection there.
What happened to the Biden who said that Republicans were going to work with him? That they would come to their senses? It was just bluster, everyone who bothers to pay any attention at all knows that if the Democrats had 52 senators, they'd have three or four holdouts, or a litany of other excuses for why nothing is going to get done. The Democrats are no longer a party insofar as a cohesive political organization with the means to impose discipline their members - it's just a brand that increasingly fewer and fewer people are interested in buying. The shit is completely out of gas and the Democrats are at least as culpable as the Republicans of standing in the way of progress. A completely hollow, rotten institution which is a an election cycle or two away from being in a permanent minority at the federal level, something they have taken exactly no action to stop. It doesn't matter, because they will continue to fundraise off of the loss of abortion rights, the end of the minimum wage, and whatever other revanchist insanity the Republicans have in store. Hence the Iron Law of Institutions.
Biden could absolutely impose price controls on gasoline - Nixon did just that in 1971. He's not going to because he's a senile old gargoyle who only understands things through the lens of his century in the Senate. All this shit about "not having the votes" is just the same defeatist rhetoric that the Democrats always resort to when they're in power. Just complete loser shit.
I disagree on a few points because:
1) I worry you are moving the goal posts or pretending not to understand what we are discussing:
A) Manysnakes "it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than [blocking Bernie] and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since." (maybe I read this wrong?).
B) Bernie, "Biden had a plan to challenge the wealthy and powerful and it was sabotaged by 2 members"
C) Manysnakes, "What does this have to do with what I said?"
D)It obviously relates as you accused Biden of have zero plans other than blocking Bernie. Bernie says otherwise.
2) You are holding two opposing opinions at the same time:
A) Dems are a cohesive group who worked together to block Bernie from getting power.
B) Dems aren't even a party because only 96% of Dem Senators vote with the president and the House easily passes all his ideas. The two key hold-outs in the Senate are evidence that the entire party has failed.
3)Dems are as responsible as Republicans.
A) How can anyone make this accusation with a straight face. Are you watching the Jan 6 investigation hearings? The two parties are equally bad?
B) Have you forgotten what McConnell's role in the Senate is?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/05/mitch-mcconnell-joe-biden-obstruction
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/2014-election-mitch-mcconnells-barack-obama-confrontation-110154
4) Impose price controls on gas:
A) I agree with limiting profit on oil, hell, I'd back only allowing state owned oil companies (Norway's state owned oil company seems to have worked well for the country and Canada getting rid of theirs only enriched American and Chinese oil companies). BUT a price control would be political suicide. The complaints of "socialism" when it comes to wearing a mask were insane. Actually setting the price of goods would set the right wing machine into overdrive.
B) How did the Nixon's attempt to engage in price control work when Nixon tried it out? What actually happens in these moments?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nixon-fight-inflation-price-controls-stagflation-gas-shortages-biden-democrats-reconciliation-bill-federal-reserve-11628885071 (I think the WSJ is obviously biased... so I am open to better sources/evolutions).
C) I disagree we should be making it easier to drive from place to place. And, this comes out as harsh, but Americans need to learn how to walk and ride their bikes. Out of all the places I've lived, Americans are the absolute best at coming up with lame excuses not to have to move their bodies.
C2) The disconnect between work and home was a horrible mistake and this is an opportunity to change it. Cheap low density suburban housing was a huge mistake and we are paying the costs.
C3) The correct solution is to let the suburbs die, while lowering cost of housing in cities (or turning the suburbs into cities)
what, you didn't have time to generate an infographic?
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How is my mention of the historical fact of Democrats rallying to stop Bernie relevant to his opinion as stated on "Meet The Press"? There is absolutely no connection there.
What happened to the Biden who said that Republicans were going to work with him? That they would come to their senses? It was just bluster, everyone who bothers to pay any attention at all knows that if the Democrats had 52 senators, they'd have three or four holdouts, or a litany of other excuses for why nothing is going to get done. The Democrats are no longer a party insofar as a cohesive political organization with the means to impose discipline their members - it's just a brand that increasingly fewer and fewer people are interested in buying. The shit is completely out of gas and the Democrats are at least as culpable as the Republicans of standing in the way of progress. A completely hollow, rotten institution which is a an election cycle or two away from being in a permanent minority at the federal level, something they have taken exactly no action to stop. It doesn't matter, because they will continue to fundraise off of the loss of abortion rights, the end of the minimum wage, and whatever other revanchist insanity the Republicans have in store. Hence the Iron Law of Institutions.
Biden could absolutely impose price controls on gasoline - Nixon did just that in 1971. He's not going to because he's a senile old gargoyle who only understands things through the lens of his century in the Senate. All this shit about "not having the votes" is just the same defeatist rhetoric that the Democrats always resort to when they're in power. Just complete loser shit.
I disagree on a few points because:
1) I worry you are moving the goal posts or pretending not to understand what we are discussing:
A) Manysnakes "it’s pretty obvious that they had absolutely no plans other than [blocking Bernie] and have not been able to come up with anything in the two years since." (maybe I read this wrong?).
B) Bernie, "Biden had a plan to challenge the wealthy and powerful and it was sabotaged by 2 members"
C) Manysnakes, "What does this have to do with what I said?"
D)It obviously relates as you accused Biden of have zero plans other than blocking Bernie. Bernie says otherwise.
2) You are holding two opposing opinions at the same time:
A) Dems are a cohesive group who worked together to block Bernie from getting power.
B) Dems aren't even a party because only 96% of Dem Senators vote with the president and the House easily passes all his ideas. The two key hold-outs in the Senate are evidence that the entire party has failed.
3)Dems are as responsible as Republicans.
A) How can anyone make this accusation with a straight face. Are you watching the Jan 6 investigation hearings? The two parties are equally bad?
B) Have you forgotten what McConnell's role in the Senate is?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/05/mitch-mcconnell-joe-biden-obstruction
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/2014-election-mitch-mcconnells-barack-obama-confrontation-110154
4) Impose price controls on gas:
A) I agree with limiting profit on oil, hell, I'd back only allowing state owned oil companies (Norway's state owned oil company seems to have worked well for the country and Canada getting rid of theirs only enriched American and Chinese oil companies). BUT a price control would be political suicide. The complaints of "socialism" when it comes to wearing a mask were insane. Actually setting the price of goods would set the right wing machine into overdrive.
B) How did the Nixon's attempt to engage in price control work when Nixon tried it out? What actually happens in these moments?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nixon-fight-inflation-price-controls-stagflation-gas-shortages-biden-democrats-reconciliation-bill-federal-reserve-11628885071 (I think the WSJ is obviously biased... so I am open to better sources/evolutions).
C) I disagree we should be making it easier to drive from place to place. And, this comes out as harsh, but Americans need to learn how to walk and ride their bikes. Out of all the places I've lived, Americans are the absolute best at coming up with lame excuses not to have to move their bodies.
C2) The disconnect between work and home was a horrible mistake and this is an opportunity to change it. Cheap low density suburban housing was a huge mistake and we are paying the costs.
C3) The correct solution is to let the suburbs die, while lowering cost of housing in cities (or turning the suburbs into cities)
That is the point of the Jan 6th hearings? Who still doesn’t know what happened? It was disgusting and awful and disgraceful and nauseating and every other possible negative adjective. What is the goal? So that we don’t forget how bad it was? Should we repeat the hearings this time next year so that we continue not forgetting? Should we also have some hearings on Japanese American internment camps just so we don’t forget how bad that was?
To me, they are just a cynical ploy to try to get voters to get angrier about Jan 6th than the self-imposed economic nightmare our government has sentenced us to.
In regards to gas prices, there are price controls on milk and somehow we haven’t come to a civil war over it.
For lots of people that don’t live in urban areas, walking/biking/public transit aren’t viable options. Punishing them with crippling gas prices as if they have done something wrong doesn’t make sense to me.
What are we supposed to do with people in the suburbs while we let them die? Perhaps some of that $55 billion we sent to the Ukrainian war black hole could have been used to pay for some infrastructure and public transit.
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My coworker whose relatives live in the Ukraine doesn't look at the ongoing war there as a "Ukranian War Black Hole".
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My coworker whose relatives live in the Ukraine doesn't look at the ongoing war there as a "Ukranian War Black Hole".
Ok well my mother's Ukrainian and she's frustrated with the west making the war markedly worse so she offsets your coworker.
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My coworker whose relatives live in the Ukraine doesn't look at the ongoing war there as a "Ukranian War Black Hole".
I have nothing but sympathy for their civilians, but you think that Ukraine is going to defeat Russia if we just give them enough money? How’s that going for them?
How much more money do we need to fork over? We plunked down $55 billion dollars and they are getting systematically crushed. How much more to reverse the tide? A trillion? 2 trillion? More? How much does the Donbas belonging to Ukraine mean to you? Can you put a dollar figure on it?
Wouldn’t pressing for peace be a more realistic and humanitarian thing to do? Even if it means having to cede territory to Russia, that strikes me as really the only solution. Would that be dooming the world to a dictatorial takeover like what happened with the appeasement of Hitler’s conquest of Poland? I hope not, but unless we want to get involved ourselves and declare war on Russia, I don’t see any other options.
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The dorks in charge are making us want to fight amongst ourselves, but we should really be giving them wet willies, stepping on their toes, and rubbing sand in their butts.
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That is the point of the Jan 6th hearings? Who still doesn’t know what happened? It was disgusting and awful and disgraceful and nauseating and every other possible negative adjective. What is the goal? So that we don’t forget how bad it was? Should we repeat the hearings this time next year so that we continue not forgetting? Should we also have some hearings on Japanese American internment camps just so we don’t forget how bad that was?
To me, they are just a cynical ploy to try to get voters to get angrier about Jan 6th than the self-imposed economic nightmare our government has sentenced us to.
In regards to gas prices, there are price controls on milk and somehow we haven’t come to a civil war over it.
For lots of people that don’t live in urban areas, walking/biking/public transit aren’t viable options. Punishing them with crippling gas prices as if they have done something wrong doesn’t make sense to me.
What are we supposed to do with people in the suburbs while we let them die? Perhaps some of that $55 billion we sent to the Ukrainian war black hole could have been used to pay for some infrastructure and public transit.
You have my favorite avatar out of everyone so this bums me out a bit.
Considering, we had a president and other powerful politicians actively trying to overthrow a presidential election (voting might be a kind of important to our democratic-republic) and risking the life of the VP, I'd say we might reacting a little too meekly. Finding out exactly what Trump and his cronies did is important. Especially, considering a good portion of the US still thinks the election was "stolen" despite millions and millions of tax dollars being spent on election "audits." I hope Garland is watching and actually brings the law into this.
As for economic hell, I think we are all old enough to remember the 2008 recession. This feels nothing like that. What are the key metrics that equal "economic hell" for you? Unemployment is low, wages have risen, retail buying is increasing, people are purchasing more services, new orders of goods are rising, the deficit is much lower this year than last year, GDP is increasing, and so on. (see https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/ECONI-2022-05/pdf/ECONI-2022-05.pdf).
The stock market went down (this shit is a fucking scam owned primarily by the very few) and crypto went down (I couldn't care less and I think I remember crypto advocates telling me about "digital gold!" and "no fiat currency").
Gasoline and consumer goods have gone up in America and around the world as production is behind demand. Not ideal but I'm not convinced this equals economic hell in conjunction with all the positive aspects of the economy right now.
As for not walking or riding a bike in America. I went from 2007 until 2021 without a car. A few of these years were in small town America, a few in mid-sized city in mid-western America, one year in the sunbelt, and some time in LA, and the rest of the time outside of the US in places that are easier for people without cars AND they have cultures that are about getting off their asses.
When it comes the task of moving one's body from point A to point B, Americans are lazy, wimpy, and selfish. In the sunbelt, everyone complained, "It is too hot to ride a bike here." This was bullshit. The weather was perfect for 9 months out of the year. This excuse was complete bullshit. Life was hard in small town USA without a car. But, there is no reason anyone should need to fill the tank more than once or twice a month. The town was a 7 minute drive from end to end (worst place I ever lived).
In Finland people ride their bikes when it is -10 degrees, they walk 30 minutes to work in the snow, in the north of Finland I saw people take their sleds to the supermarket, people in Russia walk in freezing weather, but Americans won't get off their fat asses to ride their bikes in 60 degree weather. American culture has its high points, but our aversion having to move is not one of them. My sibling would drive to Trader Joes even though it was 1.5 blocks from her home. My mom drives to the supermarket even though it is 2 blocks from her house. My colleagues wouldn't walk to work cause it was uphill (despite it only being a 15 minute walk). The university students in the small uni town I lived in wouldn't walk to school. 19 years old and too fucking lazy to walk 12-20 minutes in the snow.
I don't think it is a "punishment" for the people in suburbs to pay the price of the cost of gas/oil. I have no interest in subsidizing them, their poor zoning laws, low density housing/their NIMBY response to multi family homes, and so on. They built their way of life off of the idea cheap gas would last forever. Even though since the 70s or the high has prices of 2008, they should have known that they were living on borrowed time. The suburbs were designed poorly and people bought into them because they were cheap, offered more space, and etc. They starved the cities of tax money and now want everyone else to cry that they have to pay for their ridiculous way of life? What happened to the "personal responsibility" "bootstrap" mentality of the 'burbs?
I really don't understand what the fuck Americans have been thinking for the past 50 years. Our love affair with the car is beyond stupid.
I think of this clip from an interview between a Saudi official and a British Journalist:
"Doesn't this new massive increase of the price of oil, mean a change in the world balance of power?
"Yes...You have to adjust yourself to the new circumstances."
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My coworker whose relatives live in the Ukraine doesn't look at the ongoing war there as a "Ukranian War Black Hole".
I have nothing but sympathy for their civilians, but you think that Ukraine is going to defeat Russia if we just give them enough money? How’s that going for them?
How much more money do we need to fork over? We plunked down $55 billion dollars and they are getting systematically crushed. How much more to reverse the tide? A trillion? 2 trillion? More? How much does the Donbas belonging to Ukraine mean to you? Can you put a dollar figure on it?
Wouldn’t pressing for peace be a more realistic and humanitarian thing to do? Even if it means having to cede territory to Russia, that strikes me as really the only solution. Would that be dooming the world to a dictatorial takeover like what happened with the appeasement of Hitler’s conquest of Poland? I hope not, but unless we want to get involved ourselves and declare war on Russia, I don’t see any other options.
Considering that Ukraine was expected to be defeated by Russia in a matter of days after Russia invaded in late-February and they are still fighting the good fight almost 4 months later, I'd say it's going better than expected for them.
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Gas prices suck for sure, but that's so much bigger than one US presidential administration. I hear a lot of folks pushing for more domestic oil production, which I know flies in the face of the green energy movement, but it also just takes a long fuckin time and more money. I don't have numbers, but I feel as though we'd need to do a lot to build the infrastructure to support the American oil habit independent of other nations as well... Plus it's a global market, the idea of just making our own oil doesn't make sense to me (but if someone could explain how it would be possible, that would be rad).
@manysnakes that link seems like good news, hoping for no further escalation and a sooner rather than later end to the war.
But even without sanctions and bans on oil imports, production was not meeting demand when things picked back up after covid shutdowns. And we have oil companies buying back stocks to line shareholders pockets while that $ could be used to revamp production...
Someone smarter than me correct me if I'm wrong, but dems did try to pass legislation to prevent that kind of price gouging, no?
Edit: I admittedly know very little about the Biden administration's actions regarding Ukraine. Anybody care to share how we've affected the war/peace process other than by providing lots of money? I learn a lot in these threads, genuinely asking.
Edit again: @TheLurper loved the point about the way housing rates were framed during the pandemic. I do think, however, that Manchin and Sinema, although they are only two people, in this situation are representing exactly what has prevented dem success/structural change/progress for a long time now. Maybe they're the last of a dying breed in the party, but you gotta understand the frustration and lack of faith in a party that has a track record of prioritizing corporate interests over the people they claim to represent.
Also, let's not forget: old man slowly falling over on a bike is pretty funny
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we’ve repeatedly pressured zelensky out of negotiating a peace plan and currently the civilian battalions keep friendly firing each other so i’d say ur 5 billion and counting is being well spent
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we’ve repeatedly pressured zelensky out of negotiating a peace plan and currently the civilian battalions keep friendly firing each other so i’d say ur 5 billion and counting is being well spent
The overwhelming majority of news I've seen is focused on how staunch the Ukrainian resistance has been and how Russia has floundered. That's so great and I do hope that support from the US played a role, but I feel like because of this, the US wants to stay involved for the long haul as they see weaknesses in Russia they didn't see before and have an interest in dragging the war out to weaken it further and minimize Russia's threat to America. idk if Putin would negotiate in peace talks... However I honestly don't know after these last few months if Russia is the kind of threat it's been made out to be, poised to take over more of Europe given a victory in Ukraine (it is a nuclear power, though).
I read Biden is pushing for a whole lot more money to go toward Ukrainian aid... I get the desire to want to oppose a violent invasion, but I personally don't think prolonged use of the suffering of the Ukrainian people to justify fighting a proxy war with Russia is very heroic of the US, especially with pressing domestic issues. All of the support for Ukraine from actual human beings comes from genuine empathy and concern for the lives of others, but the government is playing a bigger game with it.
I do know that oil companies spent more than $80 billion on those stock buybacks though. Seems as though some of those billions could have been used to address supply and demand in the oil industry.
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Also, let's not forget: old man slowly falling over on a bike is pretty funny
They set him up for failure, toe clips are dicey as is, and putting a geriatric man in them is a recipe for disaster. Is it kinda funny, he's proven himself to be a huge piece of shit over and over again. And yet I still voted for him. At least stagnation and all the other bullshit is better than living in a Christian theocracy.
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
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Living here in this moment feels just like when I took a hipper on a fs air last week: shoulda bailed out long ago.
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Seriously guys toe clips are beyond useless. Take the em off your bike if you have them, switch to flats with metal pins or just go clipless if that’s what you’re interested in.
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
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Living here in this moment feels just like when I took a hipper on a fs air last week: shoulda bailed out long ago.
america since vietnam has been jake brown and when we hit the flat bottom erry body gonna lose they shoes
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
Hell during the 2020 primaries he came right out and said during a debate "Under me nothing will fundamentally change." Which is the opposite of what we really need. And like you said, any meaningful change that COULD happen is getting tanked because they got duped by Manchin and Sinema. Until the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and really all the old play nice democrats are out of office our two parties will be Republican, and Diet Republican.
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
Not to nitpick, but this was actually a quote offered in private to a group of wealthy donors.
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
Not to nitpick, but this was actually a quote offered in private to a group of wealthy donors.
Which means it's more truthful than any public proclamation the mack has made
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
Not to nitpick, but this was actually a quote offered in private to a group of wealthy donors.
Which means it's the more truthful than any public proclamation the mack has made
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
Absolutely. Does the Biden administration have a big initiative or bill that they've gotten through congress that they can rally support around come 2024? How is "vote for us and members of our own party will sabotage our own agenda" appealing?
Not to nitpick, but this was actually a quote offered in private to a group of wealthy donors.
Which means it's the more truthful than any public proclamation the mack has made
Exactly
Oh weird, I'm having a Mandela Effect moment about it then.
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i don’t even think he’s stopping us from living in a christian theocracy tbh
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Also, let's not forget: old man slowly falling over on a bike is pretty funny
They set him up for failure, toe clips are dicey as is, and putting a geriatric man in them is a recipe for disaster.
After reviewing different angles of videos, I see (lack of) wheel flop as the main issue. The first red flag is that he dangles his left leg long before the bike comes to a stop. Even experienced roadies do this, but as a bicycle commuter, I have to dismount (or track stand) at every stop and only put my foot down after coming to a complete stop. Now that Biden's left foot is already down, the only choice is to lean the bike to the left. The correct way to do this is to shift your weight to the left and turn the handlebars to the right. This initiates wheel flop and the whole bike will tilt left. Since Biden kept the bars straight and his weight is evenly balanced, he can only hope that his weight will tilt left. Instead, he leans right, and his right foot is still in the cage, causing the fall. Thus the cage was only a secondary cause.
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eh, he's much more poised here
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His biggest success thus far in my opinion
http://youtu.be/80BwqQQY31w
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eh, he's much more poised here
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Wonder what he's saying here. Definitely not reading from his cue cards
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
He’s converted way more people from the right over to left-wing economic ideas. Calling people on the right inbred racist shitheads for everything doesn’t really work that well
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https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1540086506030768128?s=21&t=QvHq2M2ahVBbrFdWZig2Gw
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Biden may be old, but I'd take him over the alternative.
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
He’s converted way more people from the right over to left-wing economic ideas. Calling people on the right inbred racist shitheads for everything doesn’t really work that well
True! He's a working class hero for sure
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Can you get pedals with straps on them that you can slide your feet in and out of easily, like pedal sliders? I like the idea of being able to use the upswing to pedal but not of having my feet being glued to the fucking bike
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Can you get pedals with straps on them that you can slide your feet in and out of easily, like pedal sliders? I like the idea of being able to use the upswing to pedal but not of having my feet being glued to the fucking bike
Several companies make “half toe clips”, they won’t help you pull much though. Better to just go clipless. Getting comfy with clipless is not as bad as people make it out to be. I never fallen from being able to unclip. If you’re hit by a car or crash, you’ll come unclipped. They’re fairly safe and make jumping over shit in the road stupid easy.
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clipless pedals are 1000% safer and easier to extricate yourself from than those power strap things, which sounds like what you're after.
clipless pedals are just ski bindings, turn your foot a few degrees to either side and you're free, or with enough force you'll pop out regardless
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All i know is nothing is bidens fault and trump caused 911
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
He’s converted way more people from the right over to left-wing economic ideas. Calling people on the right inbred racist shitheads for everything doesn’t really work that well
True! He's a working class hero for sure
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I don’t see how my point doesn’t stand. Good for tucker for having him on his show.
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Biden may be old, but I'd take him over the alternative.
There is no alternative. America has no real left wing only a synthetic left of controlled opposition and that's not even a conspiracy theory. Clinton, Obama and Biden could have codified RvW but they didn't. They all continue the same imperialistic policies abroad, bombing and drone striking in other countries. They're all in the pockets of corporate America and big banks. Identity politics is a divisive smokescreen; class consciousness is the key. America needs a real third option or a second revolution at this point if people want anything to change.
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Gas prices suck for sure, but that's so much bigger than one US presidential administration. I hear a lot of folks pushing for more domestic oil production, which I know flies in the face of the green energy movement, but it also just takes a long fuckin time and more money. I don't have numbers, but I feel as though we'd need to do a lot to build the infrastructure to support the American oil habit independent of other nations as well... Plus it's a global market, the idea of just making our own oil doesn't make sense to me (but if someone could explain how it would be possible, that would be rad).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBqAzJXVGo
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Biden may be old, but I'd take him over the alternative.
There is no alternative. America has no real left wing only a synthetic left of controlled opposition and that's not even a conspiracy theory. Clinton, Obama and Biden could have codified RvW but they didn't. They all continue the same imperialistic policies abroad, bombing and drone striking in other countries. They're all in the pockets of corporate America and big banks. Identity politics is a divisive smokescreen; class consciousness is the key. America needs a real third option or a second revolution at this point if people want anything to change.
When the change was made to where donors could give unlimited funds to campaigns, that's when I figured out how the two party system is a joke and switched to independent.
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Biden may be old, but I'd take him over the alternative.
There is no alternative. America has no real left wing only a synthetic left of controlled opposition and that's not even a conspiracy theory. Clinton, Obama and Biden could have codified RvW but they didn't. They all continue the same imperialistic policies abroad, bombing and drone striking in other countries. They're all in the pockets of corporate America and big banks. Identity politics is a divisive smokescreen; class consciousness is the key. America needs a real third option or a second revolution at this point if people want anything to change.
When the change was made to where donors could give unlimited funds to campaigns, that's when I figured out how the two party system is a joke and switched to independent.
Thanks citizens United
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
He’s converted way more people from the right over to left-wing economic ideas. Calling people on the right inbred racist shitheads for everything doesn’t really work that well
True! He's a working class hero for sure
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I don’t see how my point doesn’t stand. Good for tucker for having him on his show.
If you had the opportunity to talk to millions of people about something you feel passionate about, would you pass it up if you didn’t agree with all the host’s politics? There was once a time when it was commonplace for television hosts to bring on people that have differing opinions and talk about them. It’s kinda ironic that this example happened on probably the most infamously biased cable news channel for at least the last 20 years. (CNN and msnbc are catching up quick though).
Criticizing the democrats doesn’t de facto make someone a republican. His point, I think, is that the two parties are much more similar than they are different and are generally guilty of the same crimes.
I wonder if a truly viable third party will ever emerge in America. It seems like it would take a miracle since the two-party system (and all its attendant lobbyists:special interest groups/corporations) is so entrenched into our collective psyche.
I understand where the “I’ll take [less plainly evil candidate] over [more plainly evil candidate] any day” argument is coming from. It seems like the realistic, prudent thing to do, but that’s what got us this Weekend at Bernie’s corpse inadvertently blurting out threats of chemical warfare against China during a press conference.
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Posting Jimmy Dore clips? Gross.
Haha, what’s so bad about him?
Personally he had me back in 2016 arguing how Trump appointing three scotuses would be as likely as the moon falling into lake Michigan. He's a dumbfuck and a grifter, the best kind of useful idiot to the right.
He’s converted way more people from the right over to left-wing economic ideas. Calling people on the right inbred racist shitheads for everything doesn’t really work that well
True! He's a working class hero for sure
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I don’t see how my point doesn’t stand. Good for tucker for having him on his show.
If you had the opportunity to talk to millions of people about something you feel passionate about, would you pass it up if you didn’t agree with all the host’s politics? There was once a time when it was commonplace for television hosts to bring on people that have differing opinions and talk about them. It’s kinda ironic that this example happened on probably the most infamously biased cable news channel for at least the last 20 years. (CNN and msnbc are catching up quick though).
Criticizing the democrats doesn’t de facto make someone a republican. His point, I think, is that the two parties are much more similar than they are different and are generally guilty of the same crimes.
I wonder if a truly viable third party will ever emerge in America. It seems like it would take a miracle since the two-party system (and all its attendant lobbyists:special interest groups/corporations) is so entrenched into our collective psyche.
I understand where the “I’ll take [less plainly evil candidate] over [more plainly evil candidate] any day” argument is coming from. It seems like the realistic, prudent thing to do, but that’s what got us this Weekend at Bernie’s corpse inadvertently blurting out threats of chemical warfare against China during a press conference.
The echo chamber people just say"it's not even a debate" and that apparently takes care of everything