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Title: Bad Habits
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 25, 2022, 12:41:45 PM
Someone pointed out to me my back foot was sorta in ollie position when I was carving and kickturning on a shaped board, didnt realize I was doing that.  Maybe a symptom of switching around with popsicle boards?  Once I made the correction it really helped, obviously

We’re all human, bad habits form.  What are little things you’ve caught yourself doing or had pointed out to you that saved you some headaches?
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Abyss1 on August 25, 2022, 12:53:45 PM
I used to crow hop right before I popped any trick, kind of a bounce before the bounce, stopped doing it when I noticed it from filming
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tzhangdox on August 25, 2022, 12:57:06 PM
I don't extend my flicking foot as far out as I probably should for nollie/sw flips

Am pretty lazy with popping or getting a lift out of grinds/slides, usually just fall off the end if I have that option. Makes skating a ledge with no end more difficult than it should be sometimes.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 25, 2022, 02:21:12 PM
grinding my front foot into place wears down that shoe faster.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: mattchew on August 25, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
I used to crow hop right before I popped any trick, kind of a bounce before the bounce, stopped doing it when I noticed it from filming

I’m 30 years deep into doing this and don’t know how to stop :(
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 25, 2022, 03:02:23 PM
I'm just a general commitaphobe. It takes me so long to full commit to something that isn't a go-to trick. It can be a foot tall ledge and I'll hyperfixate on the absolute worst case scenario.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Sifter on August 25, 2022, 04:03:29 PM
Picturing the bail instead of the make
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: SneakySecrets on August 25, 2022, 05:29:21 PM
I’m often too fucking lazy to actually crouch down and pop the board properly.



Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on August 25, 2022, 07:44:48 PM
overthinking about my relationship with skateboarding.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 25, 2022, 07:48:38 PM
Well, I pushed Mongo for the first 14 of my 37 years skateboarding.

There I said it.

And I grabbed stinkbug on frontside airs.

Both were corrected when I loved to Portland from Wales.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Mean salto on August 25, 2022, 08:12:41 PM
As I get better at a trick I start doing it worse. Like I naturally figure out the minimal effort needed to land it and it ends up looking like dogshit.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: BALARGUE on August 26, 2022, 03:42:41 AM
I'm just a general commitaphobe. It takes me so long to full commit to something that isn't a go-to trick. It can be a foot tall ledge and I'll hyperfixate on the absolute worst case scenario.

me last session trying to commit on a fs tailslide on a rather small hubba  :'(
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Mean salto on August 26, 2022, 03:59:36 AM
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I'm just a general commitaphobe. It takes me so long to full commit to something that isn't a go-to trick. It can be a foot tall ledge and I'll hyperfixate on the absolute worst case scenario.
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me last session trying to commit on a fs tailslide on a rather small hubba  :'(
Usually would only get it on a street spot but call it the final destination visions. Let's check out this hubba...oh you'll definatly stick in that crack and fall face first into that curb on the other side ...
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: BurgerCop on August 26, 2022, 06:11:45 AM
I'm terrible at rolling out of wrecks, I just slam like a 170lb sack of shit every time. 

I also extend my legs and, like, reach for the ground with my feet on bails, which is why I've had 6 knee dislocations and like 30 ankle sprains. I don't want to do it, I try not to, it just fuckin happens.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Dwyck on August 26, 2022, 06:28:26 AM
i have to warm up with a slowass front 5-0 on a ledge because if I try to 5050 first I willy every time. I forget where my weight should go on it every single time and have to remind myself. I don't warm up with back 5050s because I forget to lead with my shoulder, land in feeble and die. I remember enough not to try the tricks first but not enough to just do them right the first time
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: BurgerCop on August 26, 2022, 08:46:26 AM
i have to warm up with a slowass front 5-0 on a ledge because if I try to 5050 first I willy every time. I forget where my weight should go on it every single time and have to remind myself. I don't warm up with back 5050s because I forget to lead with my shoulder, land in feeble and die. I remember enough not to try the tricks first but not enough to just do them right the first time

I have a pretty bad habit with 5-0s. It's hard to explain tho.
Instead of jumping up on top of the ledge, I'll ollie and just kinda push my legs out in front of me, so I'm hanging off the side of the ledge at an angle. It can look kinda cool when I land it, but sometimes I end up overshooting the ledge and slamming on my ass. Even bruised my tailbone pretty bad once.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tzhangdox on August 26, 2022, 10:12:40 AM
As I get better at a trick I start doing it worse. Like I naturally figure out the minimal effort needed to land it and it ends up looking like dogshit.

Relatable. In high school I learned how to fs smith popping out in the middle then once I realized I could just fall off the end of the rail I never popped out again. When I learned noseblunts it was from the side, then once I realized I could go from straight on and booger it my form got a lot worse and lazier. Better now but still
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Hubba Bo-Tep on August 26, 2022, 10:49:49 AM
Holding my breath.  Sounds like I'm having an especially difficult time dropping the kids off at the pool.  i know I should exhale as I pop, but I dont.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tom on August 26, 2022, 12:48:21 PM
And I grabbed stinkbug on frontside airs.

I still can’t do grabs behind my knee. It sort of hurts my knee to try and pose the real way

I have a hard time with full cabs because I’ve somehow unlearned how to turn my shoulders. It now feels unnatural to swing my lead shoulder almost as if my arm is getting in the way of my body. What was once a fairly easy consistent trick is now a Hail Mary trick for me
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 27, 2022, 08:25:36 PM
I still push switch mongo.  I dont care. 

Sometimes the holding my breath thing.

Warm up / stretching takes up 60% of the session.

I tend to pop tricks on flat pretty good. But on occasion I do this lazy pop where my legs don’t bend and I have no idea where the board is.  Super sketch.  And embarrassing. 

Awfulizing every trick attempt. 
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Steely Daniel on August 28, 2022, 02:17:24 PM
I still push switch mongo.  I dont care. 

Sometimes the holding my breath thing.

Warm up / stretching takes up 60% of the session.

I tend to pop tricks on flat pretty good. But on occasion I do this lazy pop where my legs don’t bend and I have no idea where the board is.  Super sketch.  And embarrassing. 

Awfulizing every trick attempt.

Lol I was trying to practice pushing switch at the skatepark alone the other evening and it was so embarrassing still. I'm old enough that it's fair to push fakie mongo I feel. I can hardly even switch ollie anyway. I've just never cared about learning switch for some reason. I will go to my grave never landing any nollie or switch flip tricks. At best switch 180s, shoves and horrible horrible switch ollies, looks like I'm trying to learn how to skateboard essentially.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: rocklobster on August 28, 2022, 07:15:55 PM
Switch Mongo never die, I'm doing it for Stevie and Kalis
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: YBOS on August 28, 2022, 08:02:23 PM
Not only do I do the holding my breath thing, sometimes Ill puff out my cheeks during the trick. No idea why, but Im working on it
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on August 28, 2022, 08:41:48 PM
Holding my breath.  Sounds like I'm having an especially difficult time dropping the kids off at the pool.  i know I should exhale as I pop, but I dont.
God, I do this too especially if I’m trying to film a line, 3 tries in and I’m fucking exhausted…
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: mamba on August 28, 2022, 08:59:27 PM
I used to crow hop right before I popped any trick, kind of a bounce before the bounce, stopped doing it when I noticed it from filming

This is me  :-X on the makes too
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tzhangdox on August 29, 2022, 12:48:09 AM
Switch mongo is only a bad habit if you cannot push switch normally
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Hubba Bo-Tep on August 29, 2022, 02:44:20 AM
So glad to hear that I'm not the only one that holds their breath haha.


Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Mean salto on August 29, 2022, 03:04:05 AM
You bozos are definatly gonna bring up a new type of madness for me. I know I don't breath enough during a mini ramp run but never really think about it any other time. Do I breath during a manual or ledge trick? No idea. Used to do distance running and it definatly ruined everything when you suddenly start paying attention to your breathing and would rather that not start happening while skating.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: FUBAR on August 29, 2022, 04:50:09 PM
I would say not working every session on keeping tricks. I went about two months without flipping my board and now I am relearning shit. I need to go through my whole bag each session to stay current on shit.

I also need to stop telling myself it’s okay to not flip my board bc of my age. Apparently I still want to do it, so I need to make myself do it. One day I physically will not be able to any longer, and I will be pissed.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: rocklobster on August 29, 2022, 06:44:44 PM
I would say not working every session on keeping tricks. I went about two months without flipping my board and now I am relearning shit. I need to go through my whole bag each session to stay current on shit.

I also need to stop telling myself it’s okay to not flip my board bc of my age. Apparently I still want to do it, so I need to make myself do it. One day I physically will not be able to any longer, and I will be pissed.

Just try a few every session, like 10. If it comes it comes, if not move on and don't kill your session. I'm over trying to hammer out a trick for 3 hours just to eek out a shit one. Plus it's fun to mix it up.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 29, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Switch mongo is only a bad habit if you cannot push switch normally

I can switch push but lately when trying tricks switch I find myself going faster / bumps / bump to ledge etc.  for this I push switch mongo with the Little hop bounce set up then pop.  My trucks are ultra loose too so the occasion switch push just looks sketchy on its own. 

If I’m skating slower, ledges etc I’ll do the switch push or alternate between the two.

A new one I’ve been noticing. Is this thing where I can feel my should tense up.  Don’t know what the fuck it is but I don’t like it. Like they are in full lactic acidosis burn the entire session.   
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: silhouette on August 29, 2022, 09:33:20 PM
A new one I’ve been noticing. Is this thing where I can feel my should tense up.  Don’t know what the fuck it is but I don’t like it. Like they are in full lactic acidosis burn the entire session.

Do you skate wearing some kind of hat, hood or heavy clothes (i.e.. vests) a lot, because I've had something like that before and had to start avoiding wearing any accessory weight from the shoulders up (in general but mostly while skating) partly due to it. Sounds silly I know but the extra tension on my shoulders and neck regardless of how subtle (it also was constant) suddenly didn't mix well with the way I was moving anymore, combine that with work hours spent sitting on a chair (although always watching posture) and getting older in general, I was starting to develop something similar to what you're describing; I'd also regularly end up with a stiff neck, sometimes for days after particularly hardcore sessions wearing hoods and/or vests, feeling as though those had been messing with my alignment. Noticed the pattern, started watching that and never ran into the problem again. May not be your situation, but just in case. Also always try and drink more water.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tzhangdox on August 29, 2022, 10:13:44 PM
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Switch mongo is only a bad habit if you cannot push switch normally
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I can switch push but lately when trying tricks switch I find myself going faster / bumps / bump to ledge etc.  for this I push switch mongo with the Little hop bounce set up then pop.  My trucks are ultra loose too so the occasion switch push just looks sketchy on its own. 

If I’m skating slower, ledges etc I’ll do the switch push or alternate between the two.


Yeah I feel that. I switch push to get around a lot and sometimes during a sesh. But I feel that I set up most of my sw/fakie ledge tricks, with a few exceptions, slightly better if I swongo. Maybe its years of habit, but I also feel like it helps me square off my shoulders a bit better
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Skatebeard on August 30, 2022, 02:22:57 AM
i kickflip with super open shoulders, tried to correct it but they still work so have kinda just run with it now.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Hubba Bo-Tep on August 30, 2022, 05:00:24 AM
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I would say not working every session on keeping tricks. I went about two months without flipping my board and now I am relearning shit. I need to go through my whole bag each session to stay current on shit.

I also need to stop telling myself it’s okay to not flip my board bc of my age. Apparently I still want to do it, so I need to make myself do it. One day I physically will not be able to any longer, and I will be pissed.
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Just try a few every session, like 10. If it comes it comes, if not move on and don't kill your session. I'm over trying to hammer out a trick for 3 hours just to eek out a shit one. Plus it's fun to mix it up.

I've just started doing this 'cause i've been going to my local park long enough now that I'm being asked to join games of skate despite everyone being at least 20 years younger.  Surprising how long it takes to go through 10-20 attempts of all the basics regs and switch.  Was about 1.5hrs in before I even got to flipping!  Good practice though.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2022, 03:27:11 AM
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I would say not working every session on keeping tricks. I went about two months without flipping my board and now I am relearning shit. I need to go through my whole bag each session to stay current on shit.

I also need to stop telling myself it’s okay to not flip my board bc of my age. Apparently I still want to do it, so I need to make myself do it. One day I physically will not be able to any longer, and I will be pissed.
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Just try a few every session, like 10. If it comes it comes, if not move on and don't kill your session. I'm over trying to hammer out a trick for 3 hours just to eek out a shit one. Plus it's fun to mix it up.
Great advice, Rock. It does kind of kill my vibe when I struggle with them. 10 is a good number. I’m getting on them now and making a shitty one every session, but 10 full-effort tries is a good number. If it ain’t happening after 10, time to move along.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Sila on September 07, 2022, 04:19:49 AM
Tensing the feet and pointing down on the catch/missed catch has been the reason for a few ankles for me
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Willie on September 07, 2022, 04:34:51 AM
Well, I pushed Mongo for the first 14 of my 37 years skateboarding.


Did the same thing. Learned to push correctly during a particularly cold winter in my 20s when there wasn’t much else to do. I think mongo kind of screws up how you position your shoulders too.


Other bad habits:

Did not properly deck my 50-50s for at least 10 years

Didn’t lift my truck on fakie or disaster for a long time because I learned on a ramp with noping.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 07, 2022, 06:56:19 PM
Idk where I picked this up from but I have this habit of bending my right arm (I'm regs) all weird when I setup for a trick. Looking like a teapot short and stout. It's real bad.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: yghartsyrt on September 08, 2022, 05:28:52 AM
I‘m also doing the hop the before tricks. Drives me crazy.
Plus I cannot go straight towards a Trick most of the time. I nearly always do a small mini curve as if I’m afraid that I’m too fast hitting an obstacle. Looks super stupid - like I’m sort of a squirrel
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: tonyhawksmanywives on September 15, 2022, 05:11:41 PM
i rely too much on thinking i have muscle memory. for frontside ollies on transition that i need to pop for, i alway think im either just bonking my truck or i forget to pop
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: sacking rails on September 15, 2022, 06:41:44 PM
blaming my failing marriage on my job

antagonizing people with weapons
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Tommy G on November 06, 2022, 06:31:02 AM
With an amalgamation of bad skate habits over the years, my worst one is not bending my legs enough. I’ll occasionally watch footage of myself and realize that I don’t bend down near as much as I should and I wonder why my pop suffers in the long run.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: gringo_viejo on November 08, 2022, 06:50:28 PM
My whole style is a collection of tics and bad habits:
Crow hop when setting up for a trick
Grind the front foot into the grip
Clench my teeth...
...and then 50/50 with my back outside wheel and my front inside wheel locked in (instead of reversed, the right way)
Later, buy another new deck because that will make me better, right?
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: BallparkFrank on November 27, 2022, 06:22:03 PM
A high pitched scream every time I’m bailing something
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: vinithebr on November 27, 2022, 08:31:41 PM
Bad ollies into grinds. Which falls into the commitment issue.

I can do a good variety of grinds standing still near the ledge or rail, but whenever I try rolling towards the obstacle I pop the shittiest rocket ollie that barely leaves the ground, making me eat shit.

And I fall like shit too.

Not only do I do the holding my breath thing, sometimes Ill puff out my cheeks during the trick. No idea why, but Im working on it
which cheeks we talking?
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: disclosed on December 17, 2022, 02:17:17 AM
overthinking. especially on 180 nocomplys, whenever i land a trick and just do one after its no problem cause i dont think, but when i start my line with one suddenly i only land one every 10 tries. i either forget to turn my shoulders, don't pop, or flip my board over. it can drive me crazy.
reason i start lines with 180 nocomplys is cause i can not push switch/fakie at all so i just start out regulair and then 180 nocomply before the trick i wanna do fakie.


also skate very front heavy in general. my front trucks hit axle first, but cause of that i also slows down or even stick on grinds often.

clench my fists when i do tricks. looks like i'm taking one of those massive shits.

Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Logic on December 23, 2022, 11:06:31 PM
I get into the habit of approaching something like a rail from the same direction, like it can just be a rail on flat with nothing around it but I'll only grind it from one direction and will circle around back to where I approached it, especially for learning tricks.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Sila on December 23, 2022, 11:59:41 PM
One of my worst habits was tensing my feet and pointing them down when catching flip tricks. Good technique for rolling ankles, not for catching tricks
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: oak leaf on December 24, 2022, 08:18:46 AM
Cig stomping on my grip. toe area of my soles always first to go because of it. Also looks like shit lol
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Urtripping on December 24, 2022, 09:07:10 AM
Being too tense or stiff when skating transition. Doing the same trick a million times and forgetting about others lol. Failing to really commit to Ollie's like when bombing hills or off banked skatepark obstacles, although I'm really getting over this one.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum on December 24, 2022, 10:10:42 AM
A couple of recent bad habit revelations that have helped my 47 year old arse upon discovery.

-Sometimes I jump stupidly high on flip tricks... I can be a couple of feet above my board, perhaps subconsciously thinking it will help me land a slow and sluggish flip but really its the cause of it. Recently I have made an effort to not jump and my flips are a fair bit crisper and of course caught better....

-Bending the knees... I might be struggling with a trick, whether it be an FSO on transition or a flatground flip and remind myself that I should be being down further on the set up... Not sure when I neglected this... Such a simple thing but it really helps.

I love these little (re)discoveries the board teaches me as I age.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Pbn_jake on December 24, 2022, 11:23:30 AM
If it is a trick out of the norm, I get incredibly close first try and then usually by the 5th try it looks like I never had a chance. Or even worse, I’ll do it first try and then never again. I have more tricks in this category than my goto tricks to be completely honest.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: switchfakie on January 25, 2023, 07:03:15 PM
dreaded back foot griptape shifty movement before popping a trick
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 30, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
I have a bad habit of not trying new tricks enough.

I get on my board and throw like 3 if I tried any because it feels so bad. I'm not used to feeling bad on the board ever. It's my whole life and without my skateboard I feel bad all the time .
That feeling is why I had no switch powers till like when I was 19 or so.
And no switch back 80 and no nollie frontside till 2022.

I literally just got them.

Other bad habits on the board would be doing too many pressure flips and impossibles. My boards all get ill Gumby tail. 
Walker Ryan has me trying switch ones again tho. He's my favorite skater so far this year.
Should have it in a few days tops. I just gotta keep it under me.
I'm also practicing nollie back heels. I need to better my land rates because it's my favorite trick rn.

I'm setting up a lighter board rn with sub 54mm wheels for practicing flat. When I switch back to the 58s I'll have them locked AF for lines. I've never been a heel flipper.
That local Joe guy got me working on them. I wasn't flicking them with the right part of my foot which had me getting half flips mostly.
Except
I've always been good at half cab heels inward heels in all fours. Fakie heels is my go to flip trick tho.

I have a bad habit of scaring people away with my lack of thought before my actions. I'm a wild and inconsistent in my emotions. I'm probably too honest about my feelings and too public with my pain.
It's limited my mission to become friends with the entire planet minus NAZIs and other abusers.

I just want other people not to feel alone in their pain. Everything hurts but together we can escape this
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: psychout_ on February 20, 2023, 03:55:13 AM
i do that awful hop before popping my tricks too, also my back arm does some weird ass movement when i pop some tricks, like it's chasing flies when i'm in the air right after popping a pop shuv or a big ollie
i don't try enough new tricks and end up feeling frustrated because my bag of tricks isn't growing, mostly because i do lots of easy circus tricks when i start getting bored
i never skated flat bars and rails because i don't practice grinds and slides as much as i'd like to even though i know i'd love being good on these and it would open doors for me
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: goodatmeth on February 20, 2023, 05:33:36 AM
Not keeping my shoulders opened up, and spending time on slap are the main things holding me back in life
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: FunnyBunny on February 25, 2023, 05:55:08 PM
Not working on doing tricks better and instead just checking the boxes off, particularly with ledge tricks.  Part of this may be not skating consistently enough and feeling like I have to make sure I still got everything even when I know I do and may be served better doing something multiple times and trying to do actually do the trick well.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: modern life is war on March 13, 2023, 10:37:31 PM
Sometimes when I lock into grinds (in transition) I get knock-knees. It's a total style killer. Happens the most with frontside 50s. I've been focusing on watching what my knees are doing during grinds recently and making sure they are parallel and not pointing inwards.
Title: Re: Bad Habits
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
I tent to scratch my scalp when sweaty. This is always a bad idea