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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 17, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
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Anyone reach out yet / know more specifics about costs etc?
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“It’s On! Make it a reality, new minimums for new opportunities.
Our new minimum of 50 decks include options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs. each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program.
Contact our customer service team to get started.
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I don’t want one PS stix deck let alone 50
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
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Is PS becoming the new Clutch?
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
Yes, and imagining demand from existing accounts is down due to overstock issues of late.
I’m not a PS Stix wood-rider myself 😜 - but I know some folks who are, and this is a somewhat unprecedented opportunity for the average “consumer”
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
Quality is terrible and I really don’t think “the Professor” cares.
Dumping blanks on the market isn’t helping.
(https://i.ibb.co/7YHmbMv/893-CE3-BF-9-A9-E-4-CE0-A09-D-733420796378.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r7grv8k)
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This thread is giving me some mad déjàvu
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Still working great for me
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I'd rather have Clutch blanks tbh. PS decks sog out so fast on me that it's not even worth the good 1st week imo.
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I'd rather have Clutch blanks tbh. PS decks sog out so fast on me that it's not even worth the good 1st week imo.
The counterpoint, for me is…yes it is.
Admittedly, my best days are long in the rear view. But world boards, when world was the shit, didn’t last too long neither
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Emailed them because I have been considering ordering a stack of blanks for a while (to either screen print myself or just run the same shape for a few years)
"Price for 50 boards range from $855 - $1,130, depending on ordered sizes and if you’re looking for blank boards or with graphics."
You would have to sort shipping yourself so if you are located overseas could double the cost.
Honestly prefer the feeling of Dwindle wood over PS, I wonder how easy it would be to get blanks through them?
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the pdf they sent me
(https://i.ibb.co/LvC0Jb7/New-Project.png) (https://ibb.co/t3bHxkr)
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Paul been doing a good job making the brand more known. But still who’s dying to get a pssstix board? I feel like you could get a Drifter (or other small tier board shop) board and it be just as good
Also shipping will suck.
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Anyone reach out yet / know more specifics about costs etc?
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“It’s On! Make it a reality, new minimums for new opportunities.
Our new minimum of 50 decks include options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs. each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program.
Contact our customer service team to get started.
: [email protected]“
Emailed them because I have been considering ordering a stack of blanks for a while (to either screen print myself or just run the same shape for a few years)
"Price for 50 boards range from $855 - $1,130, depending on ordered sizes and if you’re looking for blank boards or with graphics."
You would have to sort shipping yourself so if you are located overseas could double the cost.
Honestly prefer the feeling of Dwindle wood over PS, I wonder how easy it would be to get blanks through them?
This is interesting!
Can I copy your post and pics to the Woodshop thread please?
Anything like this is good to have all in one place.
Not a worry either way.
Thanks.
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Anyone reach out yet / know more specifics about costs etc?
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“It’s On! Make it a reality, new minimums for new opportunities.
Our new minimum of 50 decks include options for 2 graphics at 25 pcs. each.
All popsicle and shaped decks from our catalog are accessible to this program.
Contact our customer service team to get started.
: [email protected]“
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Emailed them because I have been considering ordering a stack of blanks for a while (to either screen print myself or just run the same shape for a few years)
"Price for 50 boards range from $855 - $1,130, depending on ordered sizes and if you’re looking for blank boards or with graphics."
You would have to sort shipping yourself so if you are located overseas could double the cost.
Honestly prefer the feeling of Dwindle wood over PS, I wonder how easy it would be to get blanks through them?
This is interesting!
Can I copy your post and pics to the Woodshop thread please?
Anything like this is good to have all in one place.
Not a worry either way.
Thanks.
Of course, thanks for sharing it!
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The thing keeping me from ever riding one of these decks is that I can't not read it as "piss stix"
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Emailed them because I have been considering ordering a stack of blanks for a while (to either screen print myself or just run the same shape for a few years)
"Price for 50 boards range from $855 - $1,130, depending on ordered sizes and if you’re looking for blank boards or with graphics."
You would have to sort shipping yourself so if you are located overseas could double the cost.
Honestly prefer the feeling of Dwindle wood over PS, I wonder how easy it would be to get blanks through them?
This is interesting!
Can I copy your post and pics to the Woodshop thread please?
Anything like this is good to have all in one place.
Not a worry either way.
Thanks.
Yeah of course
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I've been skating the same wknd for at least 6 months and it's still not soggy. It was a pre pandemic model tho I think.
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I’ve loved all the Quasi boards I’ve ridden that PS Stix makes. Though I’m mostly skating bowls and small transition. #toofattoollie
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I’ve loved all the Quasi boards I’ve ridden that PS Stix makes. Though I’m mostly skating bowls and small transition. #toofattoollie
I'm on Quasi now. Love it. Not soggy at all
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skated quasi almost religiously up until i had two in a row that sogged out, didn't know it was a PS STIX problem happening to everyone I just thought god hated me or something
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What are bbs/generator minimums? does anyone know?
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Paul been doing a good job making the brand more known. But still who’s dying to get a pssstix board? I feel like you could get a Drifter (or other small tier board shop) board and it be just as good
Also shipping will suck.
My crew was getting boards made by drifter for a while. Not auite as good as ps stix IMO, but i think the price might offset the difference in quality.
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I’ve loved all the Quasi boards I’ve ridden that PS Stix makes. Though I’m mostly skating bowls and small transition. #toofattoollie
I'm on Quasi now. Love it. Not soggy at all
Welcome part coming soon?
I’d rather ride clutch
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I’ve loved all the Quasi boards I’ve ridden that PS Stix makes. Though I’m mostly skating bowls and small transition. #toofattoollie
the two Quasi PS Stix boards i had are what made me never want another PS Stix
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I skated a ton of Quasi boards up until I got a Frog board and it just felt like the wood lasted longer. Then it kind of clicked in my mind with people saying PS boards "get soggy". Plus the shape was better, roomier tail. And plus it helps put some money in Pat G's pocket.
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I feel like they've been soggy since the mid 00's.
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Quasi's been dabbling with BBS the past few seasons with the twin tails and a couple others each season from them. Wish they would just go full force and leave the dry crumbling cookie decks behind.
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Quasi's been dabbling with BBS the past few seasons with the twin tails and a couple others each season from them. Wish they would just go full force and leave the dry crumbling cookie decks behind.
Do you know what bbs/generator minimums are?
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Emailed them because I have been considering ordering a stack of blanks for a while (to either screen print myself or just run the same shape for a few years)
"Price for 50 boards range from $855 - $1,130, depending on ordered sizes and if you’re looking for blank boards or with graphics."
You would have to sort shipping yourself so if you are located overseas could double the cost.
Honestly prefer the feeling of Dwindle wood over PS, I wonder how easy it would be to get blanks through them?
Eastern Skateboard Supply sells Dwindle blanks so if your local deals with Eastern they can probably get some in for you.
In terms of shipping costs here in the USA you can use www.pirateship.com and save a good bit of money.
For example:
Every time I order a case of wheels the shipping cost is $90 or more if I go through my supplier.
With Pirate Ship I’m paying $60 a case to ship. $30 bucks saved on shipping equals more wheels for my inventory so that’s a plus. Whenever you order from a manufacturer let them know you are using a third party shipper and just email them the label.
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I've been skating the same wknd for at least 6 months and it's still not soggy. It was a pre pandemic model tho I think.
I dared to venture back to PS a few months ago with a WKND and it was one of the worst boards I've had it a while. The holes for the front truck were somehow drilled incorrectly, but I bought it from a closeout pile at a local shop and I didn't want to bother them with a return, so I just filed the holes so the trucks would fit. The deck lasted about ~3 weeks before I just gave up and handed it to a kid at the skatepark. I went home and setup a Polar with nearly identical geometry and it lasted me two months.
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
This is interesting. My first thought was that it was a sign of the times in the industry, where major brands overcorrected after the 2020 shortage and are now sitting on masses of unsold decks with absolutely no incentive to order more. But obviously the consensus is that PS boards are dogshit, so maybe that's just it.
Someone want to run analysis between woodshops using the Woodshop threads from the past few years?
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This is a direct result of how the wood presses behaved during pandemic.
They prioritized the big brands (cause duh, capitalism) who subsequently overbought and hoarded stock while throwing little brands to the wolves. Now the big guys are sitting on too much stuff and stopped putting in orders for new boards cause they can't move what they have.
This is a short term cash grab solution that isn't sustainable by PS, but hey if you like their boards, why not right.
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Quasi's been dabbling with BBS the past few seasons with the twin tails and a couple others each season from them. Wish they would just go full force and leave the dry crumbling cookie decks behind.
Do you know what bbs/generator minimums are?
I had a friend order 50 during the pandemic to screenprint on. They haven't gotten back to him recently. I assume they are back to their usual volumes and the minimums are probably higher now.
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majority of boards I've bought since like 2016 have been ps stix. they seem to work the best for me, though I have had some stinkers, misdrilled bolts, I think I've had a warped one. I really like that shape quasi and wknd use.
I do like a bbs board too, oddly enough I've really only chipped those ones pretty bad, ps stix boards just kinda smoosh out when you bang the nose into shit. splintery as hell
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I have honestly disliked every ps-stix deck I have ever had. Granted it hasn't been too many. I think they do the concave really nice even if it is on the flatter side, I like how it feels like a "natural" concave but like everyone else has stated, they feel sogged out from the beginning.
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Been a few years now but I’ve liked every PS Stix I’ve ever had, which was quite a lot.
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I don’t want one PS stix deck let alone 50
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PS Stix boards have been my favorite and would ride them exclusively if only I could find them the way I like. It's been getting harder and harder to find them in Europe after many of the major brands have switched to other woodshops (BBS, HLC or China). The ones that are left (Quasi, GX1000, WKND, etc.) all seem to favor the H-mold with the huge steep nose, which I don't get along with at all. The ones I've liked were all on the mellower PS-101 mold, which only Toy Machine uses consistently as far as I know. All the Toy Machine boards in Europe seems to be from China, so there goes that as well.
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First PS Stix, been riding mostly BBS and DSM for the past 3 years. The flex is real, they feel like a BBS that's 4 sessions in and they need to be skated differently than a stiffer board, I need to pop lighter to get the springiness. The flex helps 360 flips a lot, I just wish their 8.25s had longer tails, and they measured tip to tip instead of flat across the length.
I'm only 4 sessions in, can't comment on the longevity yet.
Given the choice I'd stick to BBS.
Edit: Looks like my praise was premature, noticed some ply at delaminating at my nose, nothing major, but it's a bummer since my board didn't shoot off into a pole or wall recently.
First board I've had delaminate on me in 20 years
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PS Stix boards have been my favorite and would ride them exclusively if only I could find them the way I like. It's been getting harder and harder to find them in Europe after many of the major brands have switched to other woodshops (BBS, HLC or China). The ones that are left (Quasi, GX1000, WKND, etc.) all seem to favor the H-mold with the huge steep nose, which I don't get along with at all. The ones I've liked were all on the mellower PS-101 mold, which only Toy Machine uses consistently as far as I know. All the Toy Machine boards in Europe seems to be from China, so there goes that as well.
Thanks for this info
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How many PS preferers are smaller people? I got two mother boards (remember when quasi was called that, ahh I'm old) and first time riding one I legit thought they sent me a broken board with how much it was flexing. I've had boards with 3 cracked plys that felt the same. Try the other board and it's the same thing and friends were even commenting on it visually bending while I skated it. Maybe like a week later I focused it without jumping I was being dumb showing other friends how much it bent by like setting up and doing an Ollie and then pressing down but not jumping and the thing just snapped. Maybe a year later got an FA board which was way better but still not for me even just landing in manual you could feel it bending and hear it creaking
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How many PS preferers are smaller people? I got two mother boards (remember when quasi was called that, ahh I'm old) and first time riding one I legit thought they sent me a broken board with how much it was flexing. I've had boards with 3 cracked plys that felt the same. Try the other board and it's the same thing and friends were even commenting on it visually bending while I skated it. Maybe like a week later I focused it without jumping I was being dumb showing other friends how much it bent by like setting up and doing an Ollie and then pressing down but not jumping and the thing just snapped. Maybe a year later got an FA board which was way better but still not for me even just landing in manual you could feel it bending and hear it creaking
I have very similar experiences, and I’m not a big guy at all (170cm/72kg or 5’6”/ 159lbs). I always thought that ps boards we get here in europe are old stock/shipped poorly or something, as they feel so ”fragile” from the start and always snap in half within a week but after reading people comments here I guess that’s just how they are. BBS for me thanks.
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Quasi's been dabbling with BBS the past few seasons with the twin tails and a couple others each season from them. Wish they would just go full force and leave the dry crumbling cookie decks behind.
Do you know what bbs/generator minimums are?
I guess I have no idea really, but I heard and read they are not taking any new accounts.
Of course if you know someone or have access to one of those mid level distro type places that deal with Generator boards, you could get whatever they are likely to offer, I think one guy didn't have any minimums, but under 20 or so cost almost as much as RRP for a blank in a shop.
First PS Stix, been riding mostly BBS and DSM for the past 3 years. The flex is real, they feel like a BBS that's 4 sessions in and they need to be skated differently than a stiffer board, I need to pop lighter to get the springiness. The flex helps 360 flips a lot, I just wish their 8.25s had longer tails, and they measured tip to tip instead of flat across the length.
I'm only 4 sessions in, can't comment on the longevity yet.
Given the choice I'd stick to BBS.
Edit: Looks like my praise was premature, noticed some ply at delaminating at my nose, nothing major, but it's a bummer since my board didn't shoot off into a pole or wall recently.
First board I've had delaminate on me in 20 years
Experiences like that do make it hard to want another one, but even like some people I know who hate Spitfire wheels, I wonder if the old "one and done" theory is not jumping the gun.
Not a worry though, as everyone has to make up their own mind and being happy with something starts way before I even get to use it, skate it, wear it, etc.
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I have a fairly new account with Generator. (Within the last 6 months) and the minimums were 50/graphic as well if I remember correctly. I didn’t really have a hard time getting an account set up either
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First PS Stix, been riding mostly BBS and DSM for the past 3 years. The flex is real, they feel like a BBS that's 4 sessions in and they need to be skated differently than a stiffer board, I need to pop lighter to get the springiness. The flex helps 360 flips a lot, I just wish their 8.25s had longer tails, and they measured tip to tip instead of flat across the length.
I'm only 4 sessions in, can't comment on the longevity yet.
Given the choice I'd stick to BBS.
Edit: Looks like my praise was premature, noticed some ply at delaminating at my nose, nothing major, but it's a bummer since my board didn't shoot off into a pole or wall recently.
First board I've had delaminate on me in 20 years
Oh yeah! I forgot that the WKND board I had was delaminating in a corner. I filled it with wood glue and clamped it for a few days and it was fine, but like ... come'on! I'm not going back to that.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
yeye fuck pstix
me and my homies only skate bbs wood
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I assume they can do this now because they've been steadily losing big accounts the last few years. Its unfortunate that it seems quality has gone down that much. BBS wood has been lasting me WAY longer in the last 3 years.
yeye fuck pstix
me and my homies only skate bbs wood
Tinfoil hat time:
Many of the biggest deck sales from brands direct are from board brands that use PS Stix (GX1000, Pizza, WKND), less so on brands that use BBS.
Recent GX1000 and Quasi boards have been a mix of PS Stix and BBS, so the theory that PS Stix is losing accounts has some merit.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
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I also had a Wknd PS Stix deck this summer that did the "crumbling cookie". After only 2 sessions of skating, the plies on the right corner of the nose delaminated until it looked like cabbage and then subsequently exploded into sharp shards. Got very little value out of it. The customer service said it's "wear and tear". Not surprised to see this press, I won't be trying out another PS deck any time soon.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Yep, I’ve been skating several in a row now. Love my styrofoam-oatmeal boards.
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I like ps stix for my curb board so I can feel it undulating under my feet, sometimes I like that feeling on transition too. Just got one with a wood knot on the second from top ply near the nose, they sanded the rail and there is a wobble, even my grip tape cut around the knot - haha.
Schmidt always struck me as that really smart entrepreneur who can’t let go enough to let others people run certain parts of his business, or really mentor any one for that matter.
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South Central or death. P.S. Stix was decent when they were exclusive to Alien/Habitat. Hearing how they skate and just by looking at the boards, they got real sloppy with quality in their manufacturing. Also Clutch wood is what crailtap wood was in the 2000's
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Schmidt always struck me as that really smart entrepreneur who can’t let go enough to let others people run certain parts of his business, or really mentor any one for that matter.
I get that exact same vibe, which is unfortunate.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
Yeah, maybe that’s part of it, just need to break it in like you say, and the steeper BBS kicks really threw me off - the Thunders made a big difference just lowering it a fraction and pulling in the wheelbase a scoche, I still suck but I’m back in the fun zone.
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Schmidt always struck me as that really smart entrepreneur who can’t let go enough to let others people run certain parts of his business, or really mentor any one for that matter.
I get that exact same vibe, which is unfortunate.
I’m sure a lot of us have worked for someone like that. Wonder if he has an heir set if he ever retires.
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I've skated a few PS decks, not my favorite decks but I didn't have a problem with them.
Have a couple buddies who swear by them.
What's the deal with some of y'all always being like "_____ is not my favorite thing so I hate it and hope they fail"
Like, you can have a preference without hating everything that isn't your preference, you know that right?
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I have a fairly new account with Generator. (Within the last 6 months) and the minimums were 50/graphic as well if I remember correctly. I didn’t really have a hard time getting an account set up either
Thanks!
I must have missed your reply on the first round, but came back to it from all the new comments.
Guessing everyone now is "open for more business" with almost too much wood available, compared to when there were shortages and everyone was screaming for more, or even just a small number of boards.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
Boards can "flatten" out, but it's minimal and you're still not going to change the mold no matter what you do to it. Same deal with variance in stack position. You're never going to turn a dlx IV into a flat deck without destroying it no matter what you do to it.
And the fact that still, after years of this exact discussion, that people don't understand that different doesn't mean worse is why I mostly stay out of this section now. PS decks flex and spring rather than just bouncing off the ground. Its a different design approach. Adjust your timing slightly and they'll reward you with being some of the most effortless to skate boards.
But nah, couldn't be ME that's doing something wrong. It has to be the gear...
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
Boards can "flatten" out, but it's minimal and you're still not going to change the mold no matter what you do to it. Same deal with variance in stack position. You're never going to turn a dlx IV into a flat deck without destroying it no matter what you do to it.
And the fact that still, after years of this exact discussion, that people don't understand that different doesn't mean worse is why I mostly stay out of this section now. PS decks flex and spring rather than just bouncing off the ground. It’s a different design approach. Adjust your timing slightly and they'll reward you with being some of the most effortless to skate boards.
But nah, couldn't be ME that's doing something wrong. It has to be the gear...
Agree w/ the above: it takes some getting used to, but they’ve almost got a sprung preload from that little flex, and before these decks sog-out, they are a real delight if you’ve got the timing adjusted.
I’ve certainly enjoyed most of mine.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
Boards can "flatten" out, but it's minimal and you're still not going to change the mold no matter what you do to it. Same deal with variance in stack position. You're never going to turn a dlx IV into a flat deck without destroying it no matter what you do to it.
And the fact that still, after years of this exact discussion, that people don't understand that different doesn't mean worse is why I mostly stay out of this section now. PS decks flex and spring rather than just bouncing off the ground. It’s a different design approach. Adjust your timing slightly and they'll reward you with being some of the most effortless to skate boards.
But nah, couldn't be ME that's doing something wrong. It has to be the gear...
Agree w/ the above: it takes some getting used to, but they’ve almost got a sprung preload from that little flex, and before these decks sog-out, they are a real delight if you’ve got the timing adjusted.
I’ve certainly enjoyed most of mine.
They feel really good from start to mid way through the life of the board, but start feeling shitty towards the last 40%.
BBS feel too stiff from the start and after breaking in they feel great all the way till the tail end of the board.
I've done some of my best flatground skating in the past few weeks riding a PS Stix, I attribute that to having to pop light and be deft with the flick, rather than trying to stomp the pop. The board is near the end of it's life but it was fun while it lasted, far from an inferior product, just different from BBS. Glad I finally rode a PS Stix to experience the flex and springiness firsthand.
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Every time I try a PS Stix I think to myself, wow this is actually pretty good. And then after a dozen sessions or so, I remember why I shouldn't bother again, as I'm standing on a lifeless wet noodle.
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Straight up selling blanks isn't a good look.
The worst feeling board I've ever skated was a PS Stix Quasi. The dimensions were great but it felt like they'd managed to engineer a styrofoam-oatmeal hybrid material and press it into the shape of a skateboard.
I skated a Palace (Dwindle) right after with pretty much the same specs aside from being pointier and it was shocking how good it felt.
Also hate how they measure board length along the board instead of tip of nose to tail in a straight line like everyone else.
**edit: Their shapes are probably some of my favourite overall though and like someone said, their concave does feel "natural". BBS concave can feel really drastic
Agree with a lot of this. And I’m way into PS.
Your whole edit paragraph is on point. Ps shapes are the best. The bbs concave, the weird swoop, just bothers me. Looks off too. I want my board to be flat as fuck boy.
Absolutely. I ride mostly Quasi PS, but I’ll buy BBS too, though hadn’t in a while. Just finished with a Quasi 8.75 felt perfect and I rode it to death, just set up a 917 8.25, slightly smaller venture hi and same 52mm wheels...and it’s just feels terrible, so stiff, tres are gone, nollie game completely messed up, just feels wrong. I thought It’d be better for my flatground but it’s just not working. I’ve switched up to some Thunders to see if that’ll help (trying that out next session). I really miss the flex, the “give and give back”.
Steeper boards can flatten out with time. Flat boards start "broken in" and get to the dead feeling stage quicker. Especially when you use playdoh wood like PS Stix does.
Boards can "flatten" out, but it's minimal and you're still not going to change the mold no matter what you do to it. Same deal with variance in stack position. You're never going to turn a dlx IV into a flat deck without destroying it no matter what you do to it.
And the fact that still, after years of this exact discussion, that people don't understand that different doesn't mean worse is why I mostly stay out of this section now. PS decks flex and spring rather than just bouncing off the ground. It’s a different design approach. Adjust your timing slightly and they'll reward you with being some of the most effortless to skate boards.
But nah, couldn't be ME that's doing something wrong. It has to be the gear...
Agree w/ the above: it takes some getting used to, but they’ve almost got a sprung preload from that little flex, and before these decks sog-out, they are a real delight if you’ve got the timing adjusted.
I’ve certainly enjoyed most of mine.
Very much agree
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My main issue with PS is their decks are mostly short and squared with steep noses. Otherwise the wood is fine.
What major brands have they picked up recently? It seems they lost most of their bigger ones aside from WKND and Quasi.
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My main issue with PS is their decks are mostly short and squared with steep noses. Otherwise the wood is fine.
What major brands have they picked up recently? It seems they lost most of their bigger ones aside from WKND and Quasi.
Super short tails too, under 6.5" in a few cases.
Habitat partially? Gillette's pro model has the PS Stix engravings but the rest of the collection are BBS.
WKND has a few PS Stix boards listed as "Medium Concave", keen to try those out.
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The best PS Stix boards I had were a stack of Roger boards around 2013/2014.
Pretty indifferent about PS Stix boards these days however. I'd rather BBS, South Central or Chapman if they were still around.
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So we're not starting a slap board brand?
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So we're not starting a slap board brand?
How about a woodshop instead? Slapstix?
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So we're not starting a slap board brand?
How about a woodshop instead? Slapstix?
More like SlapDicks
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Clm8lThpGYi/?igshid=MDM4ZDc5MmU=
The deals keep stacking. 5 free boards when you order 50 for the shop