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Title: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 08:03:41 AM
Figured a dedicated space might be good now that some of us have made peace with realized we were full of shit when we pretended we were going to take the high ground.  (Six goals will do that to you).   

I figure we have a pretty worldly group of Pals and might attract more interest here than in the usual soccer/football thread
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 21, 2022, 08:11:38 AM
Not much to say yet. First goal by Ecuador rejected for offside?? I haven't played some time now but I can't really see it.
Will never understand teams like Iran. You can't win if you don't shoot.

For people trying to figure out how to stream it sbs Australia is a free television channel. They have an app or you can just watch on their site (but prob need a VPN or whatever)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 08:14:55 AM
There was a weird, reviewed two arm take down at the start of England Iran that got waived off but a shirt pull in the dying seconds that got a penalty. 

(Joking) the refs must not want anything to happen in the opening minutes in case people haven’t tuned in yet
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 21, 2022, 08:30:51 AM
Other things already apparent I'll never understand. How can you get to a world cup and not be able to kick a ball first touch and/or still have to double back to get the ball on your prefered foot like a fukn baby.
Also I know they don't care at this level but the amount of dogshit tackles, playing off the ground and foul throws will always seem weird to me
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: birdplops on November 21, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
Trying to get the Iran keeper to stay on with his head injury, throwing water in his face, was pretty messed up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: L33Tg33k on November 21, 2022, 03:59:17 PM
I don’t give a shit about this sport but it feels like I should be hearing more about players forgoing the cup in protest. None of these fucks got a sense of integrity I see. I heard the Europeans aren’t going to go through with their plan to wear pro LGBTQ armbands because of yellow cards or some shit. Cowardice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 21, 2022, 08:43:17 PM
It's easy to talk big when it's not what you've worked your entire life for. If they hadn't worn the armbands to begin with you'd never of even known it was an option. It was only the first round it would prob be a bigger impact if they do it later in the tournament
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 08:51:36 PM
It's easy to talk big when it's not what you've worked your entire life for. If they hadn't worn the armbands to begin with you'd never of even known it was an option. It was only the first round it would prob be a bigger impact if they do it later in the tournament

Yeah.  I think about the Welsh players who get the first opportunity to represent their country in the World Cup in 64 years and I don’t begrudge them one iota of not jeopardizing that.   

I also wonder if it’s a bit of a Streisand effect on Qatars part.  Banning it only makes the conversation louder.   Most likely wouldn’t have paid attention to the arm bands or Belgian away shirts in the first place
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: G raham on November 21, 2022, 08:58:53 PM
Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 09:14:26 PM
Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms

All games that are 0-0 for a while aren’t equal.   Some are slogs, but some are amazing moments of building tension waiting for that dam to burst thst you don’t get in other sports
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: G raham on November 21, 2022, 09:51:27 PM
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Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
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All games that are 0-0 for a while aren’t equal.   Some are slogs, but some are amazing moments of building tension waiting for that dam to burst thst you don’t get in other sports

yeah thats fair. whos tipped to win it this year?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 10:18:44 PM
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Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
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All games that are 0-0 for a while aren’t equal.   Some are slogs, but some are amazing moments of building tension waiting for that dam to burst thst you don’t get in other sports
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yeah thats fair. whos tipped to win it this year?

Won’t really have a good sense until the knockout portion.  We’re in the seeding process right now so the top two teams from each table make it to the knockout, so it’s hard to really predict until you see that layout.   England went so far last World Cup because they were on a significantly easier half of the bracket

That being said - Brazil, Argentina, Germany are always easy picks before anything has been played.   I did a preliminary bracket that had a France/Germany final, but that was before France had a few injuries
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on November 22, 2022, 12:38:42 AM
Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms

WC football is quite low level and cagey. Indeed it's mostly those four-year intervals that lend it suspense.

What do we make of the stoppage times? Apparently it's the legend Pierluigi Collina's doing. Measured precisely to counter time wasted in goal celebrations etc. E.g. nine (!) minutes after yesterday's (from what I read) uneventful USA - Wales second half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 12:47:18 AM
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Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
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WC football is quite low level and cagey. Indeed it's mostly those four-year intervals that lend it suspense.

What do we make of the stoppage times? Apparently it's the legend Pierluigi Collina's doing. Measured precisely to counter time wasted in goal celebrations etc. E.g. nine (!) minutes after yesterday's (from what I read) uneventful USA - Wales second half.

Wales equalized in like the 84th minute.   Not that uneventful!


Didn’t really notice it at first.  The England match had a 15 minute stoppage time in he first half, but that seemed to make sense based off the keeper injury.   Then the second half had 9 minutes of stoppage time, so I guess thst seemed off but it was very early in the morning and I was kinda slipping in attention and assumed someone else got hurt
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on November 22, 2022, 01:05:12 AM
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Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
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WC football is quite low level and cagey. Indeed it's mostly those four-year intervals that lend it suspense.

What do we make of the stoppage times? Apparently it's the legend Pierluigi Collina's doing. Measured precisely to counter time wasted in goal celebrations etc. E.g. nine (!) minutes after yesterday's (from what I read) uneventful USA - Wales second half.
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Wales equalized in like the 84th minute.   Not that uneventful!


Didn’t really notice it at first.  The England match had a 15 minute stoppage time in he first half, but that seemed to make sense based off the keeper injury.   Then the second half had 9 minutes of stoppage time, so I guess thst seemed off but it was very early in the morning and I was kinda slipping in attention and assumed someone else got hurt

I guess it was one of the better games so far(?) Just that one pen and a bit of Bale celebrating warrants nine minutes I'm puzzled about. Although all the little throw-ins, cramps and whatnot could amount to that much. We could easily see matches with upwards of fifteen minutes of added time. Might as well introduce the stop-clock at that point.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 22, 2022, 01:06:56 AM
Wales did score late but fuck they were scared to have a crack at goal. They must of got to the box a dozen times and gone for the extra pass instead of looking up.
I think the correctly adding all the stoppage time makes sense and won't seem that weird anymore in just a couple days.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on November 22, 2022, 01:38:50 AM
Wales did score late but fuck they were scared to have a crack at goal. They must of got to the box a dozen times and gone for the extra pass instead of looking up.
I think the correctly adding all the stoppage time makes sense and won't seem that weird anymore in just a couple days.

I'm all for maximizing real playing time. Added time may not be the optimal solution but for now it's the best FIFA can do. It's up to the Home Nations to OK a change of rules (like a stop-clock). They finally went ahead with VAR also so who knows.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 02:22:46 AM
Plus, anything to chip away at that interminable time between matches
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 22, 2022, 04:02:37 AM
Dam that Saudi defender just got fukn rocked by his own keeper. Put that Lennie Kirk thread aside for a second that's how people fukn die. Hope he's alright.
Edit: he gave a thumbs up so that's good


SPOILER:  fuck yes! Goalie was on fire. A bit too much fucking around for my liking. Whenever I see a team go try settle in a corner I hope the field gets struck by lightning I swear it's never ever worked before
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 04:29:50 AM
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Something about the fact that it only occurs once every 4 years clicked with me and im super fucking hyped for it now. Hoping England or Argentina wins, idk whos good i know those countries are decent tho. Slightly low scoring/ repetitive play and the injury faking are my only qualms
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All games that are 0-0 for a while aren’t equal.   Some are slogs, but some are amazing moments of building tension waiting for that dam to burst thst you don’t get in other sports
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yeah thats fair. whos tipped to win it this year?
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Won’t really have a good sense until the knockout portion.  We’re in the seeding process right now so the top two teams from each table make it to the knockout, so it’s hard to really predict until you see that layout.   England went so far last World Cup because they were on a significantly easier half of the bracket

That being said - Brazil, Argentina, Germany are always easy picks before anything has been played.   I did a preliminary bracket that had a France/Germany final, but that was before France had a few injuries


And that is why I don’t make predictions until the round of 16 is set.   group c (?) could get really interesting.   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on November 22, 2022, 04:49:52 AM
Dam that Saudi defender just got fukn rocked by his own keeper. Put that Lennie Kirk thread aside for a second that's how people fukn die. Hope he's alright.
Edit: he gave a thumbs up so that's good


SPOILER:  fuck yes! Goalie was on fire. A bit too much fucking around for my liking. Whenever I see a team go try settle in a corner I hope the field gets struck by lightning I swear it's never ever worked before

That was an awful collision.

Tuned in at 2-1. Nice upset from SA, who have many players from the same team. Perhaps that helped them.

Noticed the ads that say 'dance to our beat'. Qatar rubbing in how it made Fifa its groveling puppet.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Jewel Runner on November 22, 2022, 06:23:15 AM
Hell yeah just logged in and wanted to see whats up in the football thread but this is a better option!

I couldn't believe when my coworker told me Argentina lost against Saudi Arabia

I fucking LOVE world cups! The only odd thing is it's almost christmas and a WC is happening lol

England is a beast playing football and for sure will go far

Hopefully Portugal gets to the final! Ronaldo sure wants that trophy under his belt

Edit: anyone playing the WC fantasy?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 22, 2022, 11:03:10 AM
That Argentina game was annoying.
Really interested to see how th cup develops.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on November 22, 2022, 12:38:27 PM
Le Blues are using the game against Australia as a training exercise.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Lester Bullocks on November 22, 2022, 07:08:14 PM
Unexpected and hilarious that Argentina lost(have never been a fan as I've been a Brazil supporter since I was young), the Saudi Arabia goalie made some great saves.  I don't expect the US to make it past the first round, would be cool to see Mexico go far.  As previously mentioned France toyed with Australia, they need to lose the man buns though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 08:31:11 PM
Le Blues are using the game against Australia as a training exercise.


I didn’t watch but I saw AUS briefly up up a goal and I got excited
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 22, 2022, 09:07:37 PM
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I didn’t watch but I saw AUS briefly up up a goal and I got excited
Aus is always a tuf watch. Their only hope was to attack a lot and after fifteen mins they stopped doing that. I feel Aus is going to return to the dark times of not even qualifying anymore. (Altho they're upping the number of teams next time so maybe not) oh well at least we had a good while of not being a total joke.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 09:48:20 PM
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Le Blues are using the game against Australia as a training exercise.
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I didn’t watch but I saw AUS briefly up up a goal and I got excited
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Aus is always a tuf watch. Their only hope was to attack a lot and after fifteen mins they stopped doing that. I feel Aus is going to return to the dark times of not even qualifying anymore. (Altho they're upping the number of teams next time so maybe not) oh well at least we had a good while of not being a total joke.

I miss Harry Kewell.   Always wanted him to shine at Liverpool but it was not to be with injuries
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on November 23, 2022, 02:07:57 AM
I some how avoided the match last night. Was playing darts with mates when it started. We left to another bar that never plays football. Been reading about the matches in fairness.
Glad it looks like the Germans are actually gonna go after FIFA over the arm bands, funny how it was first accepted, then forbidden with a yellow card, then now they are saying a game suspension...let alone the bullshit over the Beer...
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 23, 2022, 02:30:17 AM
I some how avoided the match last night. Was playing darts with mates when it started. We left to another bar that never plays football. Been reading about the matches in fairness.
Glad it looks like the Germans are actually gonna go after FIFA over the arm bands, funny how it was first accepted, then forbidden with a yellow card, then now they are saying a game suspension...let alone the bullshit over the Beer...

Rumors of sport sanctions against countries too.

All that aside, we can be happy for harmless himbo Grealish making that kids day with the goal celebration and hopefully getting some donations going for cerebral palsy
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 23, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
Think that Saudi player broke his jaw and cheekbone/eyesocket. Is that the worst injury ever in a world cup? Fukn unlucky.

Fuck FIFA. It wouldn't ever happen but would be so good if everyone was like fuck you we'll make our own sport and made a game that didn't go for two hours
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 23, 2022, 07:08:21 AM
Banzai!!
My ideal 4 are Mexico, Japan, Wales then Poland for stupid family tree reasons. Obvs I'd like Aus to do well too but I'm a realist.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on November 23, 2022, 07:19:06 AM
Now I'm extra pissed that this fucking bullshit is in Qatar, I would have loved to watch that match. Bud should just give Japan the beer just for that result.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Jewel Runner on November 23, 2022, 08:16:38 AM
Now I'm extra pissed that this fucking bullshit is in Qatar, I would have loved to watch that match. Bud should just give Japan the beer just for that result.

So you're not watching it because you don't want to? Like a boycott?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on November 23, 2022, 08:36:24 AM
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Now I'm extra pissed that this fucking bullshit is in Qatar, I would have loved to watch that match. Bud should just give Japan the beer just for that result.
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So you're not watching it because you don't want to? Like a boycott?

Yeah boycotting it. I love football and the world cup is normally a great time but fuck this one. I feel bad for the players. Modern football sucks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: GardenSkater77 on November 23, 2022, 08:56:14 AM
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Now I'm extra pissed that this fucking bullshit is in Qatar, I would have loved to watch that match. Bud should just give Japan the beer just for that result.
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So you're not watching it because you don't want to? Like a boycott?
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Yeah boycotting it. I love football and the world cup is normally a great time but fuck this one. I feel bad for the players. Modern football sucks.

I really enjoyed the Brazil World Cup but I didn’t watch Russia and I am not watching Qatar. The fact that it is illegal to be gay is enough reason to not support this event. Not to mention slave labor. Also, after watching the FIFA documentary I am just turned off.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80221113
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Lester Bullocks on November 23, 2022, 09:36:15 AM
Spain is getting spanked by Netherlands.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 23, 2022, 09:40:46 AM
Spain is getting spanked by Netherlands.

Do you mean Costa Rica?  And do you mean Spain is spanking Costa Rica?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Lester Bullocks on November 23, 2022, 09:50:06 AM
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Spain is getting spanked by Netherlands.
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Do you mean Croatia?  And do you mean Spain is spanking Croatia?
Oh shit, for some reason there's a replay of 2014 happening on Peacock and I didn't even notice because I'm sick and out of it(and also a burnout in general).
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 23, 2022, 10:18:25 AM
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Spain is getting spanked by Netherlands.
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Do you mean Croatia?  And do you mean Spain is spanking Croatia?
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Oh shit, for some reason there's a replay of 2014 happening on Peacock and I didn't even notice because I'm sick and out of it(and also a burnout in general).

Hah thought that was the case.  It’s the one with the amazing Van Persie diving header/volley
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on November 23, 2022, 02:40:35 PM
Think that Saudi player broke his jaw and cheekbone/eyesocket. Is that the worst injury ever in a world cup? Fukn unlucky.

Fuck FIFA. It wouldn't ever happen but would be so good if everyone was like fuck you we'll make our own sport and made a game that didn't go for two hours

Look up "Schumacher collision with Battiston 82" - German keeper destroyed a French player who lost 2 teeth, consciousness and had 3 cracked ribs


God damn it Davies. You don't take penalties for Bayern, David who is a striker for Lille does...your glory hunting killed us with that weak ass PK. If you had told me Canada lost 1-0 to Belgium and I knew nothing else I'd have thought it was great. Having taken the afternoon off and the kids out of school to watch us absolutely boss the #2 team in the world and still go into the half down a goal - I was losing it. Great teams can have an off day - get one chance and take it. Us lesser mortals have to play a perfect game or we're done.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on November 23, 2022, 04:13:41 PM

England is a beast playing football and for sure will go far



https://www.instagram.com/p/ClOk3qtuF7H/
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 23, 2022, 08:55:30 PM
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England is a beast playing football and for sure will go far


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https://www.instagram.com/p/ClOk3qtuF7H/


Pfff acting like England didn’t spank Panama 6-1 in last WCs group stages.    MIB should go back to being excited that the USMNT manager is a “sneakerhead”
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on November 24, 2022, 12:01:54 AM
You mad bro?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: lazer69 on November 24, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
The end of the Portugal vs Ghana game was wild. Portugal goalie was holding ball sets it down not realizing ghana player is behind him, dude runs to steal ball but slips. Would’ve embarrassing if he scored
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 24, 2022, 10:13:30 AM
The end of the Portugal vs Ghana game was wild. Portugal goalie was holding ball sets it down not realizing ghana player is behind him, dude runs to steal ball but slips. Would’ve embarrassing if he scored
Yeah kinda thinking wouldn't it be offside tho? He was already offside before the ball was back in play. Guess there was no stoppage tho so it's just continuing on.
It was definatly refreshing over a bunch of 0-0s. Really wanted it for Ghana tho
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Lester Bullocks on November 24, 2022, 11:43:30 AM
I'm at work and can't watch Brazil VS Serbia, endless bummer.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 25, 2022, 02:52:04 AM
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Think that Saudi player broke his jaw and cheekbone/eyesocket. Is that the worst injury ever in a world cup? Fukn unlucky.

Fuck FIFA. It wouldn't ever happen but would be so good if everyone was like fuck you we'll make our own sport and made a game that didn't go for two hours
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Look up "Schumacher collision with Battiston 82" - German keeper destroyed a French player who lost 2 teeth, consciousness and had 3 cracked ribs


God damn it Davies. You don't take penalties for Bayern, David who is a striker for Lille does...your glory hunting killed us with that weak ass PK. If you had told me Canada lost 1-0 to Belgium and I knew nothing else I'd have thought it was great. Having taken the afternoon off and the kids out of school to watch us absolutely boss the #2 team in the world and still go into the half down a goal - I was losing it. Great teams can have an off day - get one chance and take it. Us lesser mortals have to play a perfect game or we're done.

oh man. That Germany-France semi-final in 82 was my first exposure to international football.... I was 8 and I remember it so vividly. there was no red card, no penalty, nothing. Injustice in its purest form. left the whole country traumatized, even awaking bad memories of WWII. sounds silly but it is what is.....French and german heads of state actually released a joint statement to call for appeasement. Just crazy all around. for those who have not seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnGCoFKKRA

as for the Australia game, I just want to say I am super glad for Giroud. these 2 goals made him the all-time top goal scorer for France (tied with Henry) and his whole career is a testament to a positive attitude and hard work. Unbelievable to think he started to play in Ligue 1 so late, at 24 and had his first cap at 25.

oh, also: Jewel Runner, you must be new at this sport if you think England is "beast at football" hahaha.....english national team has not won anyting in decades.

edit: Fifa video can't be embedded apparently....here's another archive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGq7VcaHoqo&t=3s
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 25, 2022, 03:18:33 AM
Not that it's a contest but I think the Saudi guy copped it a little worse. Plus it was collateral damage but then we've got a billion more cameras etc going now.
Funnily enough I played in a stupidly ruf league and shit like that would happen every week. Not as bad as broken jaws but people getting bodied like it's hockey was normal. Still I guess you don't expect that bullshit at pro level
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on November 25, 2022, 03:41:21 AM
Not that it's a contest but I think the Saudi guy copped it a little worse. Plus it was collateral damage but then we've got a billion more cameras etc going now.
Funnily enough I played in a stupidly ruf league and shit like that would happen every week. Not as bad as broken jaws but people getting bodied like it's hockey was normal. Still I guess you don't expect that bullshit at pro level

I doubted you at first  but it seems you're right: Saoudi player actually had to have pancreas surgery! crazy.
but yeah the fact is, pretty much all the guys I knew that played club football got broke off at least once. Knee surgery, broken leg or something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 25, 2022, 04:18:21 AM
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Not that it's a contest but I think the Saudi guy copped it a little worse. Plus it was collateral damage but then we've got a billion more cameras etc going now.
Funnily enough I played in a stupidly ruf league and shit like that would happen every week. Not as bad as broken jaws but people getting bodied like it's hockey was normal. Still I guess you don't expect that bullshit at pro level
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I doubted you at first  but it seems you're right: Saoudi player actually had to have pancreas surgery! crazy.
but yeah the fact is, pretty much all the guys I knew that played club football got broke off at least once. Knee surgery, broken leg or something.
Fuck did we just do a speak of the devil lol. Almost had a new example in Wales v iran
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 25, 2022, 12:59:12 PM
I’m gonna be honest, I really wanted the us to win out of hype and because of the memes.

The game was alright.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 25, 2022, 01:02:33 PM
I’m gonna be honest, I really wanted the us to win out of hype and because of the memes.

The game was alright.

I thought it was boring as hell, but fine with final score.   England has a good enough goal differential that should see them through should they lose wales and England beats Iran, but who knows
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 26, 2022, 04:03:47 AM
Fuck that last thirty felt like three hours. Hate watching Aus play even worse with the commentary (not sure what coverage people getting else where but Aus commentators when Aus plays are so horrid. Talk about everything like Aus is winning 100-0 and can do no wrong)
well now on to get spanked by some Vikings
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 26, 2022, 05:01:03 AM
Fuck that last thirty felt like three hours. Hate watching Aus play even worse with the commentary (not sure what coverage people getting else where but Aus commentators when Aus plays are so horrid. Talk about everything like Aus is winning 100-0 and can do no wrong)
well now on to get spanked by some Vikings

That’s how I feel with Americans on commentary.   The fact that every article written today makes it out to be a victory that the US held England (bc they think England is an upper tier team for some reason) when England played like a team that knew it didn’t have to win to be fine in the group.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 26, 2022, 08:07:19 AM
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Fuck that last thirty felt like three hours. Hate watching Aus play even worse with the commentary (not sure what coverage people getting else where but Aus commentators when Aus plays are so horrid. Talk about everything like Aus is winning 100-0 and can do no wrong)
well now on to get spanked by some Vikings
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That’s how I feel with Americans on commentary.   The fact that every article written today makes it out to be a victory that the US held England (bc they think England is an upper tier team for some reason) when England played like a team that knew it didn’t have to win to be fine in the group.

As a non-Mexican from Latin America. Most coverage in the US in Spanish is biased. Mexico can be down 50-2 but those 2 goals will be replayed like 50 times each.

But… I’m still watching in Spanish because the commentary is so much better than English. The ball won’t be rolling and they already have you sweating hyped up.

Mexico’s better players are out and no one is happy with the line up. Which is a reflection of the cup. Because it doesn’t make sense but the teams are powering through.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 27, 2022, 03:54:17 AM
Fucking hell Wales, Mexico and Japan.
Is it so much to ask that in a hundred minutes of a sport where you have to score more goals than the other team to win you at least a few times in the game actually try to score some fucking goals.
You'd think somewhere leading up to the world cup they'd of had some practice shooting but come game time they think passing horizontally ten times in the box is going to somehow get past the keeper.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: sometimeperhaps on November 27, 2022, 07:37:18 AM
Let’s go Canada.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 27, 2022, 07:58:29 AM
Man, Belgium losing to Morocco.   Loving these giant-killer games.    Gotta think Brazil has a loss due
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 27, 2022, 08:07:12 AM
Would be funny if all the euro teams got knocked out early and they just cancelled the next world cup. Like oh yeah actually ummm it's unethical for all of us to travel we're just going to do a euro cup from now on. It's because of the environment.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on November 27, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
Ugh. Naive playing and misplaced loyalty have no, well little, place on this stage. Playing Atiba for 72 mins when hes clearly past it (2 of the 3 goals against scored while he was on were by someone he lost or by someone in space he left and/or didn't have the legs to get back to) killed us. Croatia time and again attacked the areas around him leaving us getting done in the half spaces. Yes we were outclassed but Herdman before the game with his mouth and during, by not reacting quickly with the subs, made it that much worse. Need a great all around game vs Morocco for a semblance of pride, which if Estaquio is out just got harder.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 27, 2022, 05:00:38 PM
Ugh. Naive playing and misplaced loyalty have no, well little, place on this stage. Playing Atiba for 72 mins when hes clearly past it (2 of the 3 goals against scored while he was on were by someone he lost or by someone in space he left and/or didn't have the legs to get back to) killed us. Croatia time and again attacked the areas around him leaving us getting done in the half spaces. Yes we were outclassed but Herdman before the game with his mouth and during, by not reacting quickly with the subs, made it that much worse. Need a great all around game vs Morocco for a semblance of pride, which if Estaquio is out just got harder.

Good point on Hutchinson. We fought pretty hard in the first two games, but hey. At least we were there and a goal was scored.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 27, 2022, 07:17:48 PM
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Ugh. Naive playing and misplaced loyalty have no, well little, place on this stage. Playing Atiba for 72 mins when hes clearly past it (2 of the 3 goals against scored while he was on were by someone he lost or by someone in space he left and/or didn't have the legs to get back to) killed us. Croatia time and again attacked the areas around him leaving us getting done in the half spaces. Yes we were outclassed but Herdman before the game with his mouth and during, by not reacting quickly with the subs, made it that much worse. Need a great all around game vs Morocco for a semblance of pride, which if Estaquio is out just got harder.
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Good point on Hutchinson. We fought pretty hard in the first two games, but hey. At least we were there and a goal was scored.
Oohh starting to sound a little Australian.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 27, 2022, 08:43:38 PM
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Ugh. Naive playing and misplaced loyalty have no, well little, place on this stage. Playing Atiba for 72 mins when hes clearly past it (2 of the 3 goals against scored while he was on were by someone he lost or by someone in space he left and/or didn't have the legs to get back to) killed us. Croatia time and again attacked the areas around him leaving us getting done in the half spaces. Yes we were outclassed but Herdman before the game with his mouth and during, by not reacting quickly with the subs, made it that much worse. Need a great all around game vs Morocco for a semblance of pride, which if Estaquio is out just got harder.
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Good point on Hutchinson. We fought pretty hard in the first two games, but hey. At least we were there and a goal was scored.
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Oohh starting to sound a little Australian.
Hahaha
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: vinithebr on November 27, 2022, 09:01:22 PM
I haven't watched a single game but I'm hoping for Germany or Brasil to be out before they face each other, the 7-1 jokes are annoying and I don't want history to repeat itself.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on November 28, 2022, 01:29:48 AM
Ugh. Naive playing and misplaced loyalty have no, well little, place on this stage. Playing Atiba for 72 mins when hes clearly past it (2 of the 3 goals against scored while he was on were by someone he lost or by someone in space he left and/or didn't have the legs to get back to) killed us. Croatia time and again attacked the areas around him leaving us getting done in the half spaces. Yes we were outclassed but Herdman before the game with his mouth and during, by not reacting quickly with the subs, made it that much worse. Need a great all around game vs Morocco for a semblance of pride, which if Estaquio is out just got harder.

He's old but can see why a coach would want his experience in there. Doubtful another Montreal player in his place would have fared better. You guys went gung ho and it briefly worked, but it was always going to be a very long shot. And yes of all people don't tell Balkans you're going to fuck them.

People are sleeping on Morocco a bit. Great individual players and this time around they seem to gel as a team too. They've crumbled under pressure before however so let's see.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 28, 2022, 04:06:17 AM
Has any one heard anything about the ball being too light or something? I swear there's only been like one shot from the edge of the box in the entire comp that hasnt ended up halfway out the stadium.

I'm also almost at breaking point with this 10 extra passes inside the box/nobody taking a shot bullshit lol. Serbia somehow managed to score on but it was painful how many extra touches they had to add. Cameroon bring the shit back level and then loses all intensity would rather tap the ball fifty times or physically jog into the defenders than try take the lead
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 28, 2022, 12:54:54 PM
That handball was bullshit. Guess karma for Suarez being an extra goalie that time
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 09:13:54 AM
FUKN BONZA!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 30, 2022, 10:18:41 AM
Heartbreaker for Tunisia
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 10:32:21 AM
Heartbreaker for Tunisia
They'd have to be pissed Aus got over them. Aus actually played worse against them than they did when they got rolled by France.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on November 30, 2022, 11:28:32 AM
I would like to say I've made the following accurate predictions elsewhere and made 0 dollars from them.
-Canada to finish with 0 points (edit this hasn't happened yet)
-Wales to finish bottom
-USA to advance

I'm also saying Brazil won't get to the semis.  Portugal or Spain to win it.  Gun to head Portugal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on November 30, 2022, 08:33:38 PM
Know fuck all about soccer, but made a decent sized bet with friends for Argentina to win at the start of the WC. Made a low risk bet on them today to win, which was a nice little profit. No clue what chance they have to win at this point, but let's fucking go Argentina.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on November 30, 2022, 08:51:26 PM
they have a solid chance, but don't think it will happen. good thing is their road to the semis is fairly easy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on November 30, 2022, 11:13:47 PM
Know fuck all about soccer, but made a decent sized bet with friends for Argentina to win at the start of the WC. Made a low risk bet on them today to win, which was a nice little profit. No clue what chance they have to win at this point, but let's fucking go Argentina.
You're up against a tired looking Australia team next so your chances are pretty good for at least another round
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 01, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
well congrats Australia!

I watched France-Tunisia with my kids and France was playing so badly (it was a B team C team) they both got bored and stopped watching halfway through haha....Then came back for Griezman's disallowed goal! Wich was cancelled AFTER the restart, so the French federation has actually filed a complaint to fifa. Noone cares that much as it does not change the qualifying result but IMO it sets a bad precedent if goals can be cancelled whenever....The ref was pretty bad generally I guess.

From a french point of view this game showed our bench really lacks quality and the absence of Pogba and Kante is very noticeable in midfield. Anyways I'm just happy we made it out the group, despite the winner's curse. I have real bad memories of the 2002 WC, when we failed to score a single goal as title holders! Now I'm thinking if no important player gets injured and the "Mbappe cheat code" produces some magic now and then....who knows! Tournament seems pretty open actually.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on December 01, 2022, 08:27:13 AM
Well Canada has figured out that Concacaf level ain't the same as a world cup...and once Borjan stopped wearing tracksuits he became Samson shorn of his locks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 08:37:21 AM
Swear Canada just scored and everyone moved on like nothing happened. Looked like the ball bounced past the goal line usually they'd stop for var and all the rest and show a little animation graphic thing but nothing
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 01, 2022, 08:40:55 AM
Don’t sleep on Croatia.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 01, 2022, 08:56:52 AM
Croatia even luckier than Poland to still be in the competition.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 09:00:54 AM
Feel like I'm the most uncultured football fan, I'm no lover of "the beautiful game" but seriously what the fuck are these teams doing? You know you have to win or you're going home so why do literally nothing for a hundred minutes. At least Mexico gave it an honest try. Morrocco too but fuck for half these they barely even considered trying to score a goal
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 01, 2022, 09:19:08 AM
Never in a million years would I have imagined Morocco topping a group that had Belgium and Croatia.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 09:28:38 AM
It's a new age. I'm telling yous all the euro teams are going home early and they're all gonna pretend they did it on purpose as some kind of protest/ say they aren't doing the world cup anymore for some kind of moral or environmental reasons
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 01, 2022, 09:36:22 AM
It's a new age. I'm telling yous all the euro teams are going home early and they're all gonna pretend they did it on purpose as some kind of protest/ say they aren't doing the world cup anymore for some kind of moral or environmental reasons

say what ?? haha you seriously think that? I live in Belgium and I can tell you people here are pissed about exiting now....
and they aren't talking about the climate, they are talking about the next big tournament!
Also I very much doubt that we will not see a final with at least one European team.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 01, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
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say what ?? haha you seriously think that? I live in Belgium and I can tell you people here are pissed about exiting now....
and they aren't talking about the climate, they are talking about the next big tournament!
Also I very much doubt that we will not see a final with at least one European team.
Lol no not honestly. Very much jokingly but it would be very funny if it happened.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 01, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
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say what ?? haha you seriously think that? I live in Belgium and I can tell you people here are pissed about exiting now....
and they aren't talking about the climate, they are talking about the next big tournament!
Also I very much doubt that we will not see a final with at least one European team.
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Lol no not honestly. Very much jokingly but it would be very funny if it happened.

Mmm no. Making jokes about football is not allowed.




hahaha
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 01, 2022, 10:32:12 AM
Feel like I'm the most uncultured football fan, I'm no lover of "the beautiful game" but seriously what the fuck are these teams doing? You know you have to win or you're going home so why do literally nothing for a hundred minutes. At least Mexico gave it an honest try. Morrocco too but fuck for half these they barely even considered trying to score a goal

You're not wrong, it's a pandemic of clean sheet cowardice. Teams go out not to concede rather than score. Look at Belgium, so preoccupied with taking out Ziyech and Hakimi their entire squad leaned to that side of the field, unable to put any plays together themselves. So many teams are bogged down in a negative approach they don't have a game of their own, even once they have nothing left to lose. It makes sense that coaches have teams play like this to be sure - they lack time and/or talent to practice a better gameplay. It's a shame Italy is not there because they have been a rare exception the last couple years. But arguably it's a reason for their not qualifying, too.

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 01, 2022, 11:06:58 AM
Croatia even luckier than Poland to still be in the competition.

You are joking? Sure they need a good striker and a goalie, but to compare them to Poland is a bit extreme.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 01, 2022, 12:55:27 PM
Wow what a day of footie.  Congrats to Japan!  Morocco and Spain will be a nice rivalry match.  Frenchie what's the Belgian reaction to the Moroccan rioting?  Surely there will be riots in Spain no matter the result.

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You are joking? Sure they need a good striker and a goalie, but to compare them to Poland is a bit extreme.

I mean about what happened in their 3rd games.  Lukaku couldn't hit a barn door.  Croatia obviously a much better side than Poland.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: fredgallSOTY on December 01, 2022, 01:04:29 PM
japan won my heart. my favorite team alongside brazil



glad to see belgium and germany go
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 01, 2022, 01:29:33 PM
Bring on the spotless Japan locker room pics. Exemplary squad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: D10S on December 01, 2022, 03:10:29 PM
Japan beating both Germany and Spain will forever change the game. Watch now they will start pumping out the Yutos and Ginwoos on the pitch.

Costa Rica cleaned up their act after a demoralizing start of the tournament.



Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 02, 2022, 12:04:07 AM
Wow what a day of footie.  Congrats to Japan!  Morocco and Spain will be a nice rivalry match.  Frenchie what's the Belgian reaction to the Moroccan rioting?  Surely there will be riots in Spain no matter the result.


you mean the riots in Brussels? It's not talked about much, cause that kind of stuff happens rather often in Brussels.... actually the exact same situation happened in 2017 when Morocco qualified for the WC by beating the Ivory Coast.
Plus the main topic here is the elimination! That's the thing with football, it brings out so much emotion, and sometimes the worst ones. The French/Belgian rivalry is actually kinda unhealthy....

Anyways yesterday was nuts. I feel Japan have become a lot more streetwise after being naively eliminated by Belgium in 2018. I'll be rooting for them besides Les Bleus, for sure   8)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2022, 01:36:28 AM
I didn’t watch, but I take it there wasn’t the sense that Spain threw in the towel so they’d get 2nd in their group and not have to face Brazil in the quarters
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 02, 2022, 02:21:00 AM
I didn’t watch, but I take it there wasn’t the sense that Spain threw in the towel so they’d get 2nd in their group and not have to face Brazil in the quarters

nah. At one point Costa Rica was leading! So Spain and Germany were both out.... or at least that's what the commentators said. I have to say the second Japanese goal was iffy... I wonder what the spanish media say about it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: marty mcfly on December 02, 2022, 04:32:03 AM
We suck so bad at soccer, can’t believe there was a time when we played good!
- a German
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 02, 2022, 06:58:00 AM
Was following the group e matchs last night. Fair play to Japan!
This cracked me up thou:
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Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 02, 2022, 07:00:43 AM
Now that we have almost all the matches for the round of 16 matches, who do you see as the winner? Of course, I hope France we have all the ability to win ! But we must remain suspicious.. I am afraid against Poland, I am too traumatized by the euro against Switzerland..  :'(

Or Brazil
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 02, 2022, 07:35:25 AM
Was following the group e matchs last night. Fair play to Japan!
This cracked me up thou:
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That's pretty good indeed. Also shows that the VAR made the right call.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 02, 2022, 08:06:19 AM
Now that we have almost all the matches for the round of 16 matches, who do you see as the winner? Of course, I hope France we have all the ability to win ! But we must remain suspicious.. I am afraid against Poland, I am too traumatized by the euro against Switzerland..  :'(

Or Brazil

I think the champion will be Iberian.  Portugal has the best XI imo, although having a world class striker shouldn't be underrated, so France and England are up there too.  Idk why but I just don't see Brazil winning it despite the easy path they've been given (if they win today).
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2022, 09:03:04 AM
God it’d be so depressing if the final was between Neymar or Ronaldo getting a World Cup.   A consolation might be Neymar not actually playing any meaningful minutes due to injury.   


At what point does Ghana go to war with Uruguay
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 02, 2022, 09:06:24 AM
Son’s trough pass was ingenious!

Glad it’s Korea over Urugay.

Edit:Also the last minutes of Ghana vs Urugay was like a fuckin sunday league, but so funny to watch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 09:11:26 AM
I think I've picked the opposite game to watch than everyone on here every time so far. Glad Korea got it bummer for Ghana. Not to take away from Korea but felt like Portugal was kinda taking it easy. Is it still yellows for shirts off. I swear they started getting players to wear those sports bras just to discourage public top removals

Come on Cameroon!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Jewel Runner on December 02, 2022, 09:20:04 AM
Yeah Portugal took it easy since we were already qualified but I'm not taking any merit off Korea. They played really good and went after what they wanted

The second goal was a beautiful counterattack

Since we're first in our group we are not playing against Brazil so that's a plus even tho I think we would beat them
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 02, 2022, 09:27:53 AM
Knockout stage look perfectly poised with Argentina Brazil on one side and England, Portugal, Spain, France on the opposite.  December 10 might be England France and Portugal Spain.  That'll be amazing. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 09:43:19 AM
Not happening. It's gonna be USA, Australia, Japan, Korea, Morrocco, Senegal, Cameroon, Poland.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 02, 2022, 09:51:05 AM
Nice one Korea! 

France breaks the curse this year.  Mbappe is terrifying.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 02, 2022, 09:56:39 AM
Gutted for Uruguay. Them against Brazil would have been brilliant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 02, 2022, 10:01:17 AM
The Korea victory made me emotional. Glad to see more Asian teams advancing in the tournament.
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Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 10:31:19 AM
The Korea victory made me emotional. Glad to see more Asian teams advancing in the tournament.
More Asian teams than South American. That's gotta be a first
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 02, 2022, 11:54:19 AM
Gutted for Uruguay. Them against Brazil would have been brilliant.

99% of the world was rooting against Suarez I'd say.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2022, 12:22:35 PM
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More Asian teams than South American. That's gotta be a first

2 Asian 2 African and 2 South American teams.   I know AUS is in the Asian conference, but it seems weird to consider them an Asian team
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 02, 2022, 12:24:46 PM
Agreed, it's so obnoxious that they take an Asian spot in the World cup, but at least Asia is getting a lot more spot in the next world cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2022, 12:40:46 PM
Agreed, it's so obnoxious that they take an Asian spot in the World cup, but at least Asia is getting a lot more spot in the next world cup.

I think next World Cup is when they do the big expansion, so there’s going to be a ton of countries repping
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: straight on December 02, 2022, 02:13:20 PM
groups are set and what an exciting finish for most of them .. now that the knockout round is about to begin, let’s see your bracket predictions

ive got argentina taking it .. im a messi fan boy and need to see him win this, fuck

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Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 02, 2022, 02:17:37 PM
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The Korea victory made me emotional. Glad to see more Asian teams advancing in the tournament.
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More Asian teams than South American. That's gotta be a first
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2 Asian 2 African and 2 South American teams.   I know AUS is in the Asian conference, but it seems weird to consider them an Asian team

It's kinda weird culturally speaking but it makes sense regionally and since they play against Asian teams all the time.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2022, 06:27:32 PM
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The Korea victory made me emotional. Glad to see more Asian teams advancing in the tournament.
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More Asian teams than South American. That's gotta be a first
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2 Asian 2 African and 2 South American teams.   I know AUS is in the Asian conference, but it seems weird to consider them an Asian team
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It's kinda weird culturally speaking but it makes sense regionally and since they play against Asian teams all the time.

Right - the Oceania division got absorbed into the Asian group it seems - but I wouldn’t refer AuS as an Asian team.   I’d caveat Asian Division or whatever it’s officially called.    It’s a cool achievement nonetheless.

Does Japan/S Korea matches get heated because of their history or has that kind of gone away in the younger generations
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More Asian teams than South American. That's gotta be a first
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2 Asian 2 African and 2 South American teams.   I know AUS is in the Asian conference, but it seems weird to consider them an Asian team
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It's kinda weird culturally speaking but it makes sense regionally and since they play against Asian teams all the time.
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Right - the Oceania division got absorbed into the Asian group it seems - but I wouldn’t refer AuS as an Asian team.   I’d caveat Asian Division or whatever it’s officially called.    It’s a cool achievement nonetheless.

Does Japan/S Korea matches get heated because of their history or has that kind of gone away in the younger generations

They get heated in terms of fanbases going wild for their country but not in terms of players getting chippy or anything like that. There's definitely very strong nationalism and occasional internet beefs or trash talk, which I guess is not too different from any other international soccer/football matches.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 09:03:52 PM
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Agreed, it's so obnoxious that they take an Asian spot in the World cup, but at least Asia is getting a lot more spot in the next world cup.
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I think next World Cup is when they do the big expansion, so there’s going to be a ton of countries repping
Obnoxious? Fukn choke yourself. First look at an atlas.
For thirty years for Aus to get into the world cup we had to beat every team in the pacific islands which we always did then every team in South Asia which we always did then play in Asia anyway. We've been part of Asian football longer than most of you have even payed attention to Asian teams


Also I know they took it easy but fuck yeah Cameroon. No big team got away unscathed in the entire group stage.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on December 02, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
Uruguay got jobbed...and before you say "karma" - Suarez's handball was called, he got a red and Gyan missed the penalty. Today however both Nunez and Cavani were fouled in the area...now after saying all that "MY gawd what a through ball by Son" for their victory. That ball was outrageous.

Hopefully the Dutch aren't throwing up on the field tomorrow as LVG admitted they have the flu in camp. A bit of gamesmanship?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 02, 2022, 10:15:51 PM
Uruguay got jobbed...and before you say "karma" - Suarez's handball was called, he got a red and Gyan missed the penalty. Today however both Nunez and Cavani were fouled in the area...now after saying all that "MY gawd what a through ball by Son" for their victory. That ball was outrageous.

Hopefully the Dutch aren't throwing up on the field tomorrow as LVG admitted they have the flu in camp. A bit of gamesmanship?
Red card for double slapping a sure thing goal out is nothing. Then celebrating in the tunnel like he scored the world's best goal fuck that guy Suarez is a dickhead.
If anything like that happened again I could see them considering a rule where they just allow a goal. Like the reverse of going back and disallowing a goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 03, 2022, 02:13:54 AM
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99% of the world was rooting against Suarez I'd say.

I know don't get my wrong I can't stand him. I just have a few mates from there and was looking forward to them against Brazil...has he bit anyone yet this tournament?
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Post by: Owen on December 03, 2022, 04:17:54 AM
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Gutted for Uruguay. Them against Brazil would have been brilliant.
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99% of the world was rooting against Suarez I'd say.
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I know don't get my wrong I can't stand him. I just have a few mates from there and was looking forward to them against Brazil...has he bit anyone yet this tournament?

Given it's likely his last World Cup, I was kinda hoping he might sink his fangs into someone for old times sake. Must be a crazy thing to have to consider when going up against him
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 03, 2022, 04:55:30 AM
Nice one Korea! 

France breaks the curse this year.  Mbappe is terrifying.

can you believe he's still only 23?? he could still be playing in the 2034 WC!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on December 03, 2022, 04:59:37 AM
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Uruguay got jobbed...and before you say "karma" - Suarez's handball was called, he got a red and Gyan missed the penalty. Today however both Nunez and Cavani were fouled in the area...now after saying all that "MY gawd what a through ball by Son" for their victory. That ball was outrageous.

Hopefully the Dutch aren't throwing up on the field tomorrow as LVG admitted they have the flu in camp. A bit of gamesmanship?
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Red card for double slapping a sure thing goal out is nothing. Then celebrating in the tunnel like he scored the world's best goal fuck that guy Suarez is a dickhead.
If anything like that happened again I could see them considering a rule where they just allow a goal. Like the reverse of going back and disallowing a goal.

Oh I fully get the hate - and the rules are fucked when it comes to that, I want to say he's a pantomime villain and plays it up...then remember he's bit 3 players - so it's much more than that - mentally he's off. But people forget Gyan after the fact said he would have done the same thing (I.e. handball) - he just needed to pot the damn pk.

Very interested in this US vs Nederland game today - big teams are crashing out (Belgium, Germany, I thought Serbia would do better) and could see the young Americans harrying the Dutch all over the field. Contrast in styles and all that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 03, 2022, 01:15:27 PM
Well tonights games kinda sucked but the results were as expected. At least my heart can take a break now and I can just enjoy watching. (Altho that one of the least tense games minus a tiny flicker of hope at the end)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 03, 2022, 01:54:28 PM
Well tonights games kinda sucked but the results were as expected. At least my heart can take a break now and I can just enjoy watching. (Altho that one of the least tense games minus a tiny flicker of hope at the end)

Yeah they kinda did, but Netherlands finally played like a team of their history and qualities.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 03, 2022, 02:18:11 PM
I would not be mad at the Netherlands finally taking it this year. Or any country that has never won the WC, but I don't see anyone else doing it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 03, 2022, 03:39:20 PM
I would not be mad at the Netherlands finally taking it this year. Or any country that has never won the WC, but I don't see anyone else doing it.

Portugal… but I hope not until Ronaldo goes.   I couldn’t stand him in the 2006 WC bc of that bullshit with Rooney, but I got over it, but all this petulant shit he’s pulling now, at his age, has really soured me on him.   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: G raham on December 03, 2022, 07:00:35 PM
anyone find it weird how inaccurate a lot of shots on goal are
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 03, 2022, 09:34:30 PM
anyone find it weird how inaccurate a lot of shots on goal are
I genuinely wonder if we have a 2010 ball situation going on. I think only twice has somebody hit the ball from outside the box and its gone in the other hundred times it's gone halfway out the stadium. Or if it is a long range shot that's somewhat accurate the player has had to kick it so softly that's it's zero threat to the goalkeeper.
Only info on the ball I can find it's it's made of sustainable materials which is a first.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ungzilla on December 03, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
phew i guess we won't be running out of soccer balls after all
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 03, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
phew i guess we won't be running out of soccer balls after all

Made my morning.

anyone find it weird how inaccurate a lot of shots on goal are

Yup, sometimes I wonder if I’m even watching the world cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 04, 2022, 05:05:57 AM
Totally stressed for the game against Poland !  ;D so
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ALLEZ LES BLEUS !! 🇫🇷
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 04, 2022, 05:28:55 AM
Totally stressed for the game against Poland !  ;D so
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ALLEZ LES BLEUS !! 🇫🇷

Even tho I’m from the Czech rep, I’ve always been a fan of french/english (is there a rivalry considering the historical circumstances between those two?) football in general, so I’m rooting for your team too. Hopefully there won’t be a Mbappe vs Szceszny penalty shot 😀

P.s. Paul Sholes is still the best mifielder imho.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on December 04, 2022, 07:43:16 AM
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Totally stressed for the game against Poland !  ;D so
 easy it can be a trap..

ALLEZ LES BLEUS !! 🇫🇷
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Even tho I’m from the Czech rep, I’ve always been a fan of french/english (is there a rivalry considering the historical circumstances between those two?) football in general, so I’m rooting for your team too. Hopefully there won’t be a Mbappe vs Szceszny penalty shot 😀

P.s. Paul Sholes is still the best mifielder imho.

Pavel Nedved would like to have a chat with you. I'm going Zizou and before him Lothar M.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 04, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
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Totally stressed for the game against Poland !  ;D so
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ALLEZ LES BLEUS !! 🇫🇷
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Even tho I’m from the Czech rep, I’ve always been a fan of french/english (is there a rivalry considering the historical circumstances between those two?) football in general, so I’m rooting for your team too. Hopefully there won’t be a Mbappe vs Szceszny penalty shot 😀

P.s. Paul Sholes is still the best mifielder imho.
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Pavel Nedved would like to have a chat with you. I'm going Zizou and before him Lothar M.

Yeah Nedved was great, although Rosicky was the real shit, before he got hurt. Lothar had a class and Zidane is Zidane you know he was unbelievable. Tho when he was asked to tell how it is to be the best central midfielder of the world, he said something like: “Dunno, you’d have to ask Paul Scholes.” True story.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 04, 2022, 08:59:07 AM
Fuck I hate when people take penalties like that. Dance around like a chicken and miss don't worry they'll give you a do over
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 04, 2022, 10:22:05 AM
I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 04, 2022, 10:39:47 AM
I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.

Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 04, 2022, 10:47:24 AM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.

for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 04, 2022, 11:04:02 AM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
Could it be it's harder to appreciate a talent during their own time or something?  Zidane, Henry etc have also had all the bonus years of looking back fondly

Maybe he's comparable to the current alien workshop team or something
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 04, 2022, 11:22:20 AM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....

Maybe it’s because he is more of a old-fashioned “striker” kind of player if you will, not so flashy with the ball, but has a killer instinct when it comes to scoring goals. Harder to appriciate those kinds sometimes, in the world full of false nines.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 04, 2022, 12:01:39 PM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
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Could it be it's harder to appreciate a talent during their own time or something?  Zidane, Henry etc have also had all the bonus years of looking back fondly

Maybe he's comparable to the current alien workshop team or something

IDK, I feel Zidane and the others were regarded as heros in their own time, whereas Giroud lacks that star quality that Mbappe or Benzema have for some reason....

->Scholesey
Your explanation makes sense! I'm more of a rugby guy so a lot of the technical subtleties of football escape me I'm afraid  :-X
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 04, 2022, 12:43:58 PM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
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Could it be it's harder to appreciate a talent during their own time or something?  Zidane, Henry etc have also had all the bonus years of looking back fondly

Maybe he's comparable to the current alien workshop team or something
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IDK, I feel Zidane and the others were regarded as heros in their own time, whereas Giroud lacks that star quality that Mbappe or Benzema have for some reason....

->Scholesey
Your explanation makes sense! I'm more of a rugby guy so a lot of the technical subtleties of football escape me I'm afraid  :-X

Oh we are not a big rugby nation, but more and more people like it and play it here. I love to watch it from time to time, great sport, mainly I appreciate the sportsmanship tbh.

Well Zidane was just on another level sometimes, also brought some new things into the game and on top of that was part of the so called “Galácticos” era of Real Madrid.Benzema is by far having the best time of his career since Ronaldo left Madrid and he plays the afformentioned “false nine” forward position, which is kind of trendy rn (and might aswell be the best rn). I have to say I’ve never been a fan of Madrid, but their last season of Champions League was the fucking best thing I’ve seen in football in a long time. And Benzema was on the forefront of that whole run.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 04, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
Locked up $100 from a $20 parlay to have Argentina, Netherlands, France and England win this weekend. No clue what I'm doing, but, love to see it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 04, 2022, 01:02:43 PM
Locked up $100 from a $20 parlay to have Argentina, Netherlands, France and England win this weekend. No clue what I'm doing, but, love to see it.
Congrats but I'm surprised that bet pays at all. Like gambling on if water will be wet
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 04, 2022, 01:19:18 PM
Yea, they were all pretty big favorites, but also Brazil and Spain were bigger favorites this week and both were upsets. Betting lines are weird though. Sports betting is a wild journey for sure.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 04, 2022, 02:34:23 PM
I find it amazing that this is the first time England and France will play against each other in a knockout round
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 04, 2022, 03:27:41 PM
I find it amazing that this is the first time England and France will play against each other in a knockout round

That is crazy. I know that they were in the same group in EURO 04, but yeah, v interesting factoid.

As for this tie, too bad they can't both lose.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 05, 2022, 12:32:05 AM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
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Could it be it's harder to appreciate a talent during their own time or something?  Zidane, Henry etc have also had all the bonus years of looking back fondly

Maybe he's comparable to the current alien workshop team or something
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IDK, I feel Zidane and the others were regarded as heros in their own time, whereas Giroud lacks that star quality that Mbappe or Benzema have for some reason....

->Scholesey
Your explanation makes sense! I'm more of a rugby guy so a lot of the technical subtleties of football escape me I'm afraid  :-X

Giroud is outstanding but Zidane and Henry are at a different level. Also doesn't help that he was with Arsenal all those years not winning anything.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 05, 2022, 01:34:01 AM
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I want to root for Senegal but on the other hand I would love for England to have to play France and get crushed.  Mbappe for SOTY.
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Mbappe dropped some heavy shit today.
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for those who missed it.....dude scored 16 goals in his last 14 games with France!

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeJTo8A29nQ

Also Giroud became best all-time scorer for les Bleus. Underappreciated player IMO..... Not celebrated as much as Zidane, Platini, Henry or other French greats for some reason. I don't get it honestly....
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Could it be it's harder to appreciate a talent during their own time or something?  Zidane, Henry etc have also had all the bonus years of looking back fondly

Maybe he's comparable to the current alien workshop team or something
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IDK, I feel Zidane and the others were regarded as heros in their own time, whereas Giroud lacks that star quality that Mbappe or Benzema have for some reason....

->Scholesey
Your explanation makes sense! I'm more of a rugby guy so a lot of the technical subtleties of football escape me I'm afraid  :-X
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Giroud is outstanding but Zidane and Henry are at a different level. Also doesn't help that he was with Arsenal all those years not winning anything.

Yeah I think he had a reputation at club level as contributing goals but never changing games, if that makes any sense, so he was never really given his due despite big clubs always being in the running to sign him
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 05, 2022, 09:55:27 AM
Fuuuuck. Now I'm down to my last backup teams Korea and Croatia. I like Morrocco too but can't pretend I picked them before the cup started.

Last time I'll bring it up unless something outlandish happens but I swear the ball sucks lol. Nobody really took a great penalty shot. Maybe apart from the last they only went in because the goalie gambled wrong. You watch penalties from the 90s and the balls almost pulling the net out the ground
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 05, 2022, 10:04:21 AM
Gutted for Japan.
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Post by: jorge on December 05, 2022, 10:27:26 AM
Gutted for Japan.
Same.  They get better every cup though.

Let's go Korea you got this. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 05, 2022, 11:22:29 AM
Gutted for Japan.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on December 05, 2022, 11:56:12 AM
Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 05, 2022, 12:08:03 PM
Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 05, 2022, 12:36:48 PM
What a shot!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: rothdigga on December 05, 2022, 08:19:01 PM
Gutted for Japan.
On a plane for Tokyo right now to judge a contest and was really hoping Japan would make it past Croatia just to see how nuts it would be over there in the next round. Bummer to go out like that.  Those PK’s were pretty soft. Being in country when a team is doing good is so epic.  Was in the Netherlands the year they made the final and it was awesome. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 05, 2022, 08:26:15 PM
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Gutted for Japan.
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On a plane for Tokyo right now to judge a contest and was really hoping Japan would make it past Croatia just to see how nuts it would be over there in the next round. Bummer to go out like that.  Those PK’s were pretty soft. Being in country when a team is doing good is so epic.  Was in the Netherlands the year they made the final and it was awesome.

That was in 2010.   I was in Frankfurt then and I was expecting to be having that feeling, but alas.   Then I was in South Africa literally the day after the final and you wouldn’t have known anything was there
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 05, 2022, 08:54:54 PM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.

Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on December 05, 2022, 10:08:51 PM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 06, 2022, 12:24:11 AM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.

yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 01:15:24 AM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
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yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.


Ah I’d love that.  Closest I got was when Boston finally won the World Series but that felt kinda muted since a girl died after being shot in the eye with a rubber bullet when the city folk were celebrating reverse sweeping the Yankees. 


I would NOT like a Brazil/France final.   I would very much like to see Brazil lose as soon as possible.   There’s like a NY Yankees level of arrogance to them and their fans that’s starting to grate on me.   France, I’m only happy for them to make the finals of it keeps Portugal out, but my preference is France loses its next match


(Sorry for all the baseball references)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 01:21:40 AM
Interesting note about US sports pundits making a meal out of them drawing with England and thus showing the progress of the Men’s team…

In 2006, they drew with eventual cup winners Italy in their group (while losing to Czech Rep and Ghana).   

So basically in 16 years it’s been a lateral bit of progress, probably trending ever so slightly down considering all the attention that is now placed on the sport in America.   

Sorry, just still irritated by that energy from last week
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 06, 2022, 01:39:36 AM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
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yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.
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Ah I’d love that.  Closest I got was when Boston finally won the World Series but that felt kinda muted since a girl died after being shot in the eye with a rubber bullet when the city folk were celebrating reverse sweeping the Yankees. 


I would NOT like a Brazil/France final.   I would very much like to see Brazil lose as soon as possible.   There’s like a NY Yankees level of arrogance to them and their fans that’s starting to grate on me.   France, I’m only happy for them to make the finals of it keeps Portugal out, but my preference is France loses its next match


(Sorry for all the baseball references)

what ?! You mean you want England to win that game?? England ??

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As for Brazil, I get the arrogance accusation.... But I feel a certain level of arrogance is to be expected when your team is that good for that long. I did enjoy the 2014 7-1 thrashing though..... But they are really looking good this year
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 02:03:01 AM
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
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yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.
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Ah I’d love that.  Closest I got was when Boston finally won the World Series but that felt kinda muted since a girl died after being shot in the eye with a rubber bullet when the city folk were celebrating reverse sweeping the Yankees. 


I would NOT like a Brazil/France final.   I would very much like to see Brazil lose as soon as possible.   There’s like a NY Yankees level of arrogance to them and their fans that’s starting to grate on me.   France, I’m only happy for them to make the finals of it keeps Portugal out, but my preference is France loses its next match


(Sorry for all the baseball references)
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what ?! You mean you want England to win that game?? England ??

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As for Brazil, I get the arrogance accusation.... But I feel a certain level of arrogance is to be expected when your team is that good for that long. I did enjoy the 2014 7-1 thrashing though..... But they are really looking good this year

Yes, that is and has always been my team.    For some reason it’s harder for people to understand than if I was an Italian-American rooting for Italy, but when I got into it like 20 years ago, the US team was a non-entity and it was easier to follow England games on what was televised
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 06, 2022, 03:42:59 AM
Interesting note about US sports pundits making a meal out of them drawing with England and thus showing the progress of the Men’s team…

In 2006, they drew with eventual cup winners Italy in their group (while losing to Czech Rep and Ghana).   

So basically in 16 years it’s been a lateral bit of progress, probably trending ever so slightly down considering all the attention that is now placed on the sport in America.   

Sorry, just still irritated by that energy from last week

Yup, USA in football reminds me of Switzerland in hockey. Big progress.

Meanwhile, here in the Czech republic we just talk about how everyone is thrash and what we have won in the past, but we’ve missed the progress train.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 06, 2022, 03:55:23 AM
I find it amazing that this is the first time England and France will play against each other in a knockout round

It's crazy yes .. and the match is going to be incredible and stressful ..  :P ;D It's going to look a bit like France - Belgium in 2018 .. however, I reassure myself, Belgium was stronger than England!
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
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yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.
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Ah I’d love that.  Closest I got was when Boston finally won the World Series but that felt kinda muted since a girl died after being shot in the eye with a rubber bullet when the city folk were celebrating reverse sweeping the Yankees. 


I would NOT like a Brazil/France final.   I would very much like to see Brazil lose as soon as possible.   There’s like a NY Yankees level of arrogance to them and their fans that’s starting to grate on me.   France, I’m only happy for them to make the finals of it keeps Portugal out, but my preference is France loses its next match


(Sorry for all the baseball references)
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what ?! You mean you want England to win that game?? England ??

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As for Brazil, I get the arrogance accusation.... But I feel a certain level of arrogance is to be expected when your team is that good for that long. I did enjoy the 2014 7-1 thrashing though..... But they are really looking good this year
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Yes, that is and has always been my team.    For some reason it’s harder for people to understand than if I was an Italian-American rooting for Italy, but when I got into it like 20 years ago, the US team was a non-entity and it was easier to follow England games on what was televised

Oh right, I get it...well all I can say is that if England beat us, I'll be rooting for all their opponents!
Very predictable from a Frenchman, I know  :-X   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
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Yo Brazil fucking S. Korea up lol
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Yeah, poor Korea.  Rooting hard for em they are just outclassed.
That said Brazil flops significantly more than any other team in the cup this year and it isn't close.  Fuck that team I don't care how great they are.
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Korea would have lost either way but that second point off a BS penalty for Richarlison's dive really changed the loss into a rout. I was glad Korea scored at least once though and it was a really nice shot.
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Yeah, but that Richarlison goal was probably one of the best of the tournament so far. That and both of Mbappe's goals from yesterday.
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yup those mbappe goals clearly showed there's no problem with the ball, you can absolutely shake the net.... ;)

anyways, OK that's it now I want a France-Brazil final!
(totally agree about the Richarlison penalty though. Just plain BS, just like the Poland penalty vs France btw....)

Finally, about being in a country when a team is doing good....man I'll never forget that night of july 98 in Paris. It was insane. Just to give you guys an idea, I watched the final on a giant screen at Jean Bouin stadium, there were over 20 000 people there and it was packed 2 hours before kick-off, people singing non-stop and shit. Each time les Bleus scored the place went nuts and when the game ended... man I can't even describe it. City-wide pandemonium. Pretty sure I'll never feel that again.
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Ah I’d love that.  Closest I got was when Boston finally won the World Series but that felt kinda muted since a girl died after being shot in the eye with a rubber bullet when the city folk were celebrating reverse sweeping the Yankees. 


I would NOT like a Brazil/France final.   I would very much like to see Brazil lose as soon as possible.   There’s like a NY Yankees level of arrogance to them and their fans that’s starting to grate on me.   France, I’m only happy for them to make the finals of it keeps Portugal out, but my preference is France loses its next match


(Sorry for all the baseball references)
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what ?! You mean you want England to win that game?? England ??

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As for Brazil, I get the arrogance accusation.... But I feel a certain level of arrogance is to be expected when your team is that good for that long. I did enjoy the 2014 7-1 thrashing though..... But they are really looking good this year
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Yes, that is and has always been my team.    For some reason it’s harder for people to understand than if I was an Italian-American rooting for Italy, but when I got into it like 20 years ago, the US team was a non-entity and it was easier to follow England games on what was televised
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Oh right, I get it...well all I can say is that if England beat us, I'll be rooting for all their opponents!
Very predictable from a Frenchman, I know  :-X   

Hahaha I’m under no illusions that everyone hates England.   I have a very good friend who’s half Scottish…
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 06, 2022, 09:29:56 AM
Fucking hell how do you make it this far in a world cup while being terrified to shoot. Morocco made mad runs into the box just have to basically pass the ball into the net and just stop dead and let themselves be tackled.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: straight on December 06, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
fuxk me that moroccan goalie was wild with it there
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: fredgallSOTY on December 06, 2022, 09:55:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsutkvXryI
BRASIL NÚMERO UM CAMPEÕES DO MUNDO
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 06, 2022, 10:00:36 AM
glad at least morocco made it to the next round in terms of non european/south american teams
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 06, 2022, 10:15:15 AM
Glad Morocco got threw, the Spanish lads at work might actually shut up tomorrow:-) plus my mate is from there so stoked for him.
Gonna break my boycott Saturday French vs les rosbifs is too good to miss and I'll be at a house party were it will be on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 06, 2022, 10:52:28 AM
Ronaldo benched for upcoming game vs Switzerland whoa.
Not that he doesn't deserve it but still.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 06, 2022, 11:05:45 AM
Ronaldo benched for upcoming game vs Switzerland whoa.
Not that he doesn't deserve it but still.

I'm sure he will be substituted on if they go a goal down. Up for the Swiss thou.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: el bong on December 06, 2022, 11:18:56 AM
fuxk me that moroccan goalie was wild with it there

the guy is amazing. They've actually been at their best the whole cup. Bono saved some amazing shots when playing against Belgium
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: McBrandt on December 06, 2022, 11:41:14 AM
Spain didn't even look like they tried in that shootout, it was like they were just passing to the goalkeeper or something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 06, 2022, 11:48:23 AM
Spain didn't even look like they tried in that shootout, it was like they were just passing to the goalkeeper or something.
Said the same thing about Japan yesterday. Apparently Spain had been doing tons of penalty kick practice tho so it is kind of odd.

Funny my dad called me to talk about it (he was a proper goalie back in the day) pointing out Spain's keeper also blew it. Like it's pretty standard these days for keepers to dive but if he just stayed on his feet he should of easily saved Morocco's pens. They just kicked it straight up the middle.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 12:05:40 PM
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the guy is amazing. They've actually been at their best the whole cup. Bono saved some amazing shots when playing against Belgium

He moves in mysterious ways
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 06, 2022, 12:28:19 PM
Watching Portugal spank Switzerland makes South Korea's loss yesterday feel a little less shitty now
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ungzilla on December 06, 2022, 12:49:22 PM
Spain didn't even look like they tried in that shootout, it was like they were just passing to the goalkeeper or something.

spain is known for their great passing
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: G raham on December 06, 2022, 12:50:42 PM
anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: straight on December 06, 2022, 01:08:03 PM
anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.

you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 01:19:58 PM
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anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team

Yeah penalties are great bc they’re infrequent.  Plus, a Golden Goal scenario seems tough bc there needs to be some kind of time limit on these poor guys
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: McBrandt on December 06, 2022, 01:28:59 PM
Well, after that game now i think I hate Portugal just as much as I hate Brazil. You really need to be going for goals in stoppage time when your up 5 points, and celebrating when you get one?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: G raham on December 06, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
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anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team

i mean by and large the shooter picks a side n the goalie is just guessing one right? just seems like pure luck
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: rothdigga on December 06, 2022, 03:36:04 PM
I guess you can't just leave them out there for 4 OT's like in the NHL playoffs though right?  Dudes would be pulling hamstrings and all types of shit I'm guessing.  But god damn a long NHL playoff OT is so amazing to watch.  Dudes just losing like 20LBS of water weight during a game and having to eat a full meal between periods just to keep the energy up to keep fighting.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 06, 2022, 05:40:39 PM
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team
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i mean by and large the shooter picks a side n the goalie is just guessing one right? just seems like pure luck

Nah goalies study that shit and have crib sheets on tendencies and it’s on the taker to time pace, shot, and where to place it.    “Guessing” is a bit reductive
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: straight on December 06, 2022, 06:45:52 PM
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anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team
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i mean by and large the shooter picks a side n the goalie is just guessing one right? just seems like pure luck
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Nah goalies study that shit and have crib sheets on tendencies and it’s on the taker to time pace, shot, and where to place it.    “Guessing” is a bit reductive

exactly, both the croatia but especially today the morocco goalie was not a having lucky guesses .. he knew what the shooters were going to do right as they were running up to the ball
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 06, 2022, 07:22:24 PM
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anyone else hate penalty shootouts? just feels like a coin flip, such a lame consolation. not sure how eklse theyd do a tiebreak though, maybe something to do with possession% or something.
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team
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i mean by and large the shooter picks a side n the goalie is just guessing one right? just seems like pure luck
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Nah goalies study that shit and have crib sheets on tendencies and it’s on the taker to time pace, shot, and where to place it.    “Guessing” is a bit reductive
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exactly, both the croatia but especially today the morocco goalie was not a having lucky guesses .. he knew what the shooters were going to do right as they were running up to the ball
If you don't prematurely dive you can save basically anything that isn't in the absolute top corner or crazy fast bottom corner. Which watching both shootouts nobody really goes for anymore almost every shot was one because the goalie went the wrong way
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: el bong on December 06, 2022, 10:03:59 PM
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you’re telling me you’d rather the winner be determined by a possession percentage over a shoot out .. now that would be disappointing as hell if it came to that

i don’t hate penalties at all .. it’s exciting as fuck and is part of the game .. its not luck or by chance that a winner will be determined this way and really shows who has the better team
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i mean by and large the shooter picks a side n the goalie is just guessing one right? just seems like pure luck
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Nah goalies study that shit and have crib sheets on tendencies and it’s on the taker to time pace, shot, and where to place it.    “Guessing” is a bit reductive
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exactly, both the croatia but especially today the morocco goalie was not a having lucky guesses .. he knew what the shooters were going to do right as they were running up to the ball
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If you don't prematurely dive you can save basically anything that isn't in the absolute top corner or crazy fast bottom corner. Which watching both shootouts nobody really goes for anymore almost every shot was one because the goalie went the wrong way

Penalties are indeed a reflection of the team's skill. I hear that they're 'all luck' too often. As if landing a tre flip is all luck

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Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 07, 2022, 12:12:30 AM
Glad Morocco got threw, the Spanish lads at work might actually shut up tomorrow:-) plus my mate is from there so stoked for him.
Gonna break my boycott Saturday French vs les rosbifs is too good to miss and I'll be at a house party were it will be on.

I see you are becoming more French by the minute haha ;D

About the golden goal: there was still a time limit when they had them. It just meant the game was instantly over when someone scored. If it did't happen, then it was a shoot-out.

anyways, as much as I wanted to root for Morocco (mainly cause I find Spain's style of play boring....)  their fans behaviour really soured me on the team.... Constant whistling when their opponents have the ball is just disrespectful. I noticed it in the Belgium game and it was exactly the same vs Spain.

Finally Portugal is looking real good without Ronaldo....Made me think of the Euro final they won vs France after Ronaldo was injured!

edit: how good was Goncalo Ramos' first goal!! the angle was incredible....The defender, the goalie, the commentators,
me ( :P), noone expected him to take a shot like that, with his left foot too!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 09, 2022, 09:49:06 AM
Holy moly
Croatia don't like doing things the easy way
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 09, 2022, 09:51:26 AM
Take those wack ass haircuts home Brazil SEE YA
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 09, 2022, 09:53:02 AM
I say I say I say Croatia vs Netherlands and France vs Portugal 🫡
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 09, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
Kinda glad to see the Brazilian national diving team exit. They went from dancing on the pitch to crying on it
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 09, 2022, 10:24:46 AM
Tbh, I don't see why the dancing was controversial to some people. They were just celebrating on the sideline, not taunting the opposition or whatever.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: fredgallSOTY on December 09, 2022, 10:52:46 AM
fuck this
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 09, 2022, 12:11:52 PM
Tbh, I don't see why the dancing was controversial to some people. They were just celebrating on the sideline, not taunting the opposition or whatever.

I personally never found it controversial. Just a celebration like any other. But it was quite a contrast to their exit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 09, 2022, 12:33:15 PM
Looks like the ref doesn’t like the Oranges.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 09, 2022, 12:54:37 PM
Looks like the ref doesn’t like the Oranges.

This ref couldn’t keep any of the games he did under control, because of his fear and lack of respect he demands by showing yellow cards.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 09, 2022, 01:07:27 PM
Argentina what is you doing WOW
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on December 09, 2022, 01:09:31 PM
Argentina what is you doing WOW

This game is crazy haha
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 09, 2022, 01:11:19 PM
This shits kinda tedious everybody knows you aren't going to fight so stay on your bench. Kinda hard watching just weeks after rugby league World cup or even real life soccer where if the bench storms the field shits about to get messy (/Messi if you want a pun)

Almost every player must be on a yellow by now. Next rounds gonna be tricky
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 09, 2022, 01:44:27 PM
The second Dutch goal was amazing. Dying seconds of stoppage time and so audacious. Maybe the moment of the tournament for me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: straight on December 09, 2022, 02:06:58 PM
The second Dutch goal was amazing. Dying seconds of stoppage time and so audacious. Maybe the moment of the tournament for me.

that goal was insane . can’t believe they went for that and it worked .. as an argentine fan that was not enjoyable
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 09, 2022, 03:38:31 PM
Oh no, I can imagine it felt horrible. At least it wasn't a winning goal. That would have been crushing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: LUGR on December 09, 2022, 04:40:55 PM
Dutch fan giving the world the finger was classy.

Bummed they got knocked out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 09, 2022, 04:44:28 PM
That Messi pass. Kind of happy they won, would be great to see him take the WC (possibly in a Messi Ronaldo final).

But being in the NL it is a bummer. LVG has talked up his drilling of set pieces all week, then that second goal happens. Some nerve that is, just brilliant. Then again he also made a lot of his 'scientific pen prep'  ::)

I don't mind Brazil's dancing. Even if it is a little provocative, it's not this:




Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 09, 2022, 05:37:53 PM
Chuffed for Croatia.  No one predicted much from them but they were in the last WC Finals
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: LUGR on December 09, 2022, 06:28:19 PM
Chuffed for Croatia.  No one predicted much from them but they were in the last WC Finals
Oh snap, it could be a repeat of the last final…


With France most likely beating Croatia again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: nonickname on December 09, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
That Messi pass. Kind of happy they won, would be great to see him take the WC (possibly in a Messi Ronaldo final).

But being in the NL it is a bummer. LVG has talked up his drilling of set pieces all week, then that second goal happens. Some nerve that is, just brilliant. Then again he also made a lot of his 'scientific pen prep'  ::)

I don't mind Brazil's dancing. Even if it is a little provocative, it's not this:

Otamendi and Montiel...your first thought isn't to purely celebrate with your squad...instead it's that. Very fucking lame.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 10, 2022, 12:53:06 AM
Zero class from Argentina. Hope they go home next round. Look at the pic above.
Allez les bleus
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 10, 2022, 01:21:53 AM
holy shit so much drama....I was rooting for the Netherlands and Brazil...welp. Hope my predictions work out better for Les Bleus!!
As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get. For a country of 4 million people, and not even a rich one, they punch way above their weight!

As for Argentina....gotta respect their passion for football but as others have said, way too much shithousery and zero class. I remember in the 2018 game vs France, Pogba was tackled, laying on the ground when an Argentine player shot the ball deliberately, full force into his back. Final straw for me to really wish them bad luck was seeing hinchas singing a racist song about Mbappe. and the TV guy not even cutting them off from the beginnning, like he does not see the problem....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0oDUsCxI8

anyways....on to Morocco/Portugal and France/England, I'm justo hoping for less penalty shootouts!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 10, 2022, 01:23:40 AM
holy shit so much drama....I was rooting for the Netherlands and Brazil...welp. Hope my predictions work out better for Les Bleus!!
As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get. For a country of 4 million people, and not even a rich one, they punch way above their weight!

As for Argentina....gotta respect their passion for football but as others have said, way too much shithousery and zero class. I remember in the 2018 game vs France, Pogba was tackled, laying on the ground when an Argentine player shot the ball deliberately, full force into his back. Final straw for me to really wish them bad luck was seeing hinchas singing a racist song about Mbappe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0oDUsCxI8

anyways....on to Morocco/Portugal and France/England, I'm justo hoping for less penalty shootouts!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 10, 2022, 01:33:57 AM
holy shit so much drama....I was rooting for the Netherlands and Brazil...welp. Hope my predictions work out better for Les Bleus!!
As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get. For a country of 4 million people, and not even a rich one, they punch way above their weight!

As for Argentina....gotta respect their passion for football but as others have said, way too much shithousery and zero class. I remember in the 2018 game vs France, Pogba was tackled, laying on the ground when an Argentine player shot the ball deliberately, full force into his back. Final straw for me to really wish them bad luck was seeing hinchas singing a racist song about Mbappe. and the TV guy not even cutting them off from the beginnning, like he does not see the problem....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0oDUsCxI8

anyways....on to Morocco/Portugal and France/England, I'm justo hoping for less penalty shootouts!

You’re playing against England and you DONT want a quarterfinal penalty shootout?   That’s a gift wrapped box!   

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 10, 2022, 01:46:46 AM
you kidding? Penalty shootouts are stressful as fuck....Losing to Switzerland that way at the Euro cup was painful man. Not to mention the 2006 WC final....Nah I want Les Bleus to slap England the way Portugal slapped Switerland!

edit: just to make it clear, I WISH for France to annihilate England.....but I view it as a 50-50 game, the opposite could happen and I would not be surprised.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: birdplops on December 10, 2022, 07:32:49 AM
ENGFRA is going to be such a fun game. I don't care who wins as long as it's a twelve goal thriller. It would be a bonus if Harry Kane is nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 10, 2022, 07:43:58 AM
Mbappe about to feast I can’t wait.

Morocco goal could be all they need they lock it down on defense.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 10, 2022, 09:00:08 AM
Holy shit fuck yes
Loved how they played full classic blue collar shit run as a team pass chase. Red card was a bit soft and they looked fucking exhausted so next round will be trouble tho
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 10, 2022, 09:10:55 AM
Imagine if Morocco faces off against its former colonizer in the semifinal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 10, 2022, 09:43:53 AM
As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get.

They don't play for penalties, they just have shit strikers. I'm sure they'd love to win in regular time, haha.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 10:05:37 AM
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They don't play for penalties, they just have shit strikers. I'm sure they'd love to win in regular time, haha.

Maybe just concentrate on the art of midfield that is dying. Brazil is something you like? Individual dribbling and diving?
Croatia just can’t produce lightning fast players because of the genetics like other more “fun” national teams. France for example…dancers…L sign showing guys..referee favourites and so on… no one is happy for Croatia because their perfect party is ruined… they want Brazil Argentina.. savages that have zero sportsmanship.

Going for the penalty shootout is the most ignorant thing that someone could write… sometimes I wish that there is competition for humble small countries and you guys have something like big league final 8 . Where you can invite shit teams like England and USA…or Canada could squeeze in. You deserve to have fun and be entertained after all.

https://youtu.be/SDD0B6v__aw  - this is the way France wins in the finals ? Celebrate all you want….penalty before that ? It’s not even penalty anymore… stop being so full of yourself French prick.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 11:47:53 AM
Nice referee today again…makes you think that dirty French criminal Platini who made this WC In Qatar possible will get the trophy in return,and this ref will go home never to be seen again on the big scene ,same as Argentinian Pitana from the last wc final.
England was pretty vocal against this World Cup in Qatar and that is what you get..

France will get another star on their shirt and some celebration will be in order with burning cars and stealing from the shops with a traditional raping here and there.. nice world we live in HA
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 10, 2022, 11:56:03 AM
Well that FIFA doc on Netflix showed that platini was heavily pressured by French President Sarkozy to vote for Qatar. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 12:27:32 PM
Well that FIFA doc on Netflix showed that platini was heavily pressured by French President Sarkozy to vote for Qatar.

Yep that’s the way it went, platini is reasonable man when it comes to money and power
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 10, 2022, 01:03:09 PM
Mbappe about to fast I can’t wait.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 10, 2022, 01:06:53 PM
This match was my dream finals, cause I love both those teams. And what a match! Pity it was just the quarterfinals. Well, life goes on🥲❤️
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 10, 2022, 01:12:49 PM

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As a former central midfielder I agree. Modric is for sure one of the best, dying breed.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 01:13:23 PM
Gosh even with 2 penalties given this ref was so bad that first time in history I wanted England to win..

He made a good job by breaking  the tempo of the game , allowing French players to make at least 4 rough fouls before giving a yellow. Not even thinking of punishing blatant fouls. France was shit, hoping for freaks of nature to run faster and score some goals sitting back like the stars they are..(loved that wide smile by mbumba when Kane missed the penalty.)  I feel sorry for Morocco now.
Oh yeah griezman holding his face after being touched in the back of the head by maguire was a nice touch by our favourite golden boy. Of course yellow card was given on the spot.
England needs to step up their politics game like the time they won their only World Cup because it seems that’s the way to win something.

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 10, 2022, 01:18:07 PM
Croatia just can’t produce lightning fast players because of the genetics like other more “fun” national teams.

Not buying this. It's a limited side, but it's not due to genetics.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 01:27:46 PM
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Not buying this. It's a limited side, but it's not due to genetics.

I disagree that the side is limited(how can you be limited and win against Brazil the favourites?). They just work with what they have and prefer certain style of gameplay.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 10, 2022, 01:48:07 PM
Nice referee today again…makes you think that dirty French criminal Platini who made this WC In Qatar possible will get the trophy in return,and this ref will go home never to be seen again on the big scene ,same as Argentinian Pitana from the last wc final.
England was pretty vocal against this World Cup in Qatar and that is what you get..

France will get another star on their shirt and some celebration will be in order with burning cars and stealing from the shops with a traditional raping here and there.. nice world we live in HA

Hey. I am totally with you about Platini, Sarkozy, bribes, corruption, selling fighters jets to Qatar etc. But what are you talking about ?? « traditional raping » and « burning shops » ? Do you live in France ?

Talking about football, the result seems a bit cruel for England as they have a great team and France was not that good. Seems like Deschamps knew England was better so France played physically. Playing with the limits here. Second penalty could have been avoided. The thing is, France won. There are a lot of injured players (Hernandez, Benzema) but individualities seem keep their heads above water. They are very clutch in pressure-filled games. Griezmann had two assists and completed 26 of 27 passes during the first half, Tchouameni shot the ball at 108km/h, and Lloris did great saves.

Ah, and Kane missed his second penalty.

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 01:57:16 PM
I work with 2 girls from Montpellier and they said it’s great that they can walk here at night freely(one almost got raped in her flat, guy tried to break in few times). And I read about the crimes committed at the last World Cup celebrations.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 10, 2022, 02:24:43 PM
I work with 2 girls from Montpellier and they said it’s great that they can walk here at night freely(one almost got raped in her flat, guy tried to break in few times). And I read about the crimes committed at the last World Cup celebrations.

« I work with two girls from Montpellier » Yep. There is a security problem in some cities of my country, unfortunately. But I covered 2018 celebrations as a photographer, I did Paris and the suburbs, various type of districts and it was OK.

But please don’t generalize. You are implying that a part of the population living here rape as a « tradition ». And I know what part you are talking about. Look at the US. As a European I could say a lot of things. I could say a lot of things about Americans tendency for mass shootings, I could go on forever talking about countries but I don’t because we all have our experiences. Yes for sure you read some articles. I read articles too. Remember Fox News about Paris’ « No Go Zones ? ». I lived in one of them for 6 years, neither my wife or I had any problems !

I travelled in different countries and a few times I got « in trouble », like in Napoli, Italy, but I didn’t generalize about Italians and their supposed « traditional bag snitching »

So please keep talking about football or skateboarding. And remember I don’t want to argue or change your mind, I’m just here to remind you that people can have divergent views.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 02:41:03 PM
Ok I’ll keep talking about football and skateboarding.. nice to hear that riot news and few deaths were fake news, and those girls are going to hear me tomorrow at work. Hope you win the World Cup again and again because you are the best !
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 10, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
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Not buying this. It's a limited side, but it's not due to genetics.
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I disagree that the side is limited(how can you be limited and win against Brazil the favourites?). They just work with what they have and prefer certain style of gameplay.

When you have a great defense and the best midfield in the world, but an under par attack, then you're still limited.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 10, 2022, 02:54:40 PM
Ok I’ll keep talking about football and skateboarding.. nice to hear that riot news and few deaths were fake news, and those girls are going to hear me tomorrow at work. Hope you win the World Cup again and again because you are the best !

I am not saying this is fake news, I am saying this is not a tradition ! Come on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 02:59:23 PM
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Not buying this. It's a limited side, but it's not due to genetics.
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I disagree that the side is limited(how can you be limited and win against Brazil the favourites?). They just work with what they have and prefer certain style of gameplay.
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When you have a great defense and the best midfield in the world, but an under par attack, then you're still limited.

That might be true but limited is too strong of a word. Only France is not limited it seems if you are going by this? England (goalkeeper ,midfield), Brazil(midfield) ,Argentina(super limited all around minus messi and referees) . Is spain limited as they have trouble scoring? Portugal seems pretty good..
Morocco is limited or not?
Is it possible to be called limited if you reach 2 final fours in 2 world cups in a row? Maybe..
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 10, 2022, 03:05:28 PM
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I am not saying this is fake news, I am saying this is not a tradition ! Come on.

Leave it don’t quote it no one reads about “soccer”. That was a joke of course it’s not tradition like in some countries hahah…(what country did you think of first?) racism is not niceeee maannnnn ..jokes aside…griezmann is a dirty diver
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 11, 2022, 12:02:00 AM
Hmm, this thread gone bad real quick.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 11, 2022, 12:04:03 AM
Mhm not sure what's happening here.

Happy for Morocco though!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 11, 2022, 05:48:42 AM
Mhm not sure what's happening here.

Happy for Morocco though!

I was with my mate (Moroccan) and his gf (French) last night, what a night. Wednesday night is gonna be insane here defo won't be getting any sleep. Shame a few of the Moroccan lads got injured last night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 11, 2022, 06:51:05 AM
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Mhm not sure what's happening here.

Happy for Morocco though!
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I was with my mate (Moroccan) and his gf (French) last night, what a night. Wednesday night is gonna be insane here defo won't be getting any sleep. Shame a few of the Moroccan lads got injured last night.

Yep ! Talked with my neighbor this morning ; his mother is French and his dad Moroccan.. he said to me it’s a win win situation for him haha. Also happy for the Atlas Lions they are making history in their country.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 11, 2022, 07:04:30 AM
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Mhm not sure what's happening here.

Happy for Morocco though!
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I was with my mate (Moroccan) and his gf (French) last night, what a night. Wednesday night is gonna be insane here defo won't be getting any sleep. Shame a few of the Moroccan lads got injured last night.
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Yep ! Talked with my neighbor this morning ; his mother is French and his dad Moroccan.. he said to me it’s a win win situation for him haha. Also happy for the Atlas Lions they are making history in their country.

My mate had videos from his family in Casablanca last night, looked epic. Unfortunately I can't see them getting past France. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 11, 2022, 07:25:41 AM
Who knows. Morocco defend better than England so I'm hoping that they can shut down France.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 11, 2022, 08:51:37 AM
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As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get.
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They don't play for penalties, they just have shit strikers. I'm sure they'd love to win in regular time, haha.
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Maybe just concentrate on the art of midfield that is dying. Brazil is something you like? Individual dribbling and diving?
Croatia just can’t produce lightning fast players because of the genetics like other more “fun” national teams. France for example…dancers…L sign showing guys..referee favourites and so on… no one is happy for Croatia because their perfect party is ruined… they want Brazil Argentina.. savages that have zero sportsmanship.

Going for the penalty shootout is the most ignorant thing that someone could write… sometimes I wish that there is competition for humble small countries and you guys have something like big league final 8 . Where you can invite shit teams like England and USA…or Canada could squeeze in. You deserve to have fun and be entertained after all.

https://youtu.be/SDD0B6v__aw  - this is the way France wins in the finals ? Celebrate all you want….penalty before that ? It’s not even penalty anymore… stop being so full of yourself French prick.

Hey prick. So you insult me, call Argentina and Brazil savages, call Mbappe "mbumba" (and we all know what you imply here asshole) and you expect me to answer nicely? Fuck off connard. Glad there's an "'ignore' button on Slap!

PS:
a shame that little video of Griezman you posted does not show the other angles of the croatian player clipping his leg....Even the English commentators said that WAS a foul. And don't tell me the english were rooting for the French in 2018 hahaha....anyways bye.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 11, 2022, 08:53:49 AM
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As much as I dislike Croatia's way of always going for the penalty shootout, you have to respect the results they get.
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They don't play for penalties, they just have shit strikers. I'm sure they'd love to win in regular time, haha.

well they won what, 4 of their last 6 knockout games in penalty shootouts right? and they won every single time! Which is amazing, credit to them. But it's more than a coincidence at this point...so it just has to be in the back of their mind, that they have that option.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 11, 2022, 09:05:36 AM
now to get back to yesterday....what. a. game. That one will be a classic. It was so intense, I thought whoever wins this will win the whole thing! We'll see pretty soon if I was right.
Les Bleus had luck on their side obviously, but you need a bit of it in a WC, it's always been that way. England complaining about the ref is a bit rich honestly, when you are awarded 2 penalties....France scored two magnificent goals from open play, you failed to score, even from penalty, well that's it.

Anyways to put things in perspective....It took France a very long time to get there. I grew up watching the French team of Platini et al playing with so much style, but never winning (except for one Euro). Now France has become arguably the biggest football nation of the last 25 years: 3 WC finals, 2 WC titles, 2 euros. And let's not forget there are 60 French players in this WC! it's the most of any country, 26 in the French squad, the rest with Morocco, Senegal, Ghana, Cameroon etc (dual citizenship)....It was the same in 2018. French football clubs are just producing so much talent, it's amazing. and it shows: we lost Benzema, Nkunku, Pogba, Kante, and Lucas Hernandez to injury, but still reach the final 4.
now whatever happens honestly I'll be stoked. Morocco could make history, and France could make history too with a repeat...allez les bleus!!    8)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 11, 2022, 09:10:51 AM
@OldieButFrenchie le mec est un con..tout le monde veus ça. Laisse tombe, et courage pour mercredi...I won't be upset if Giroud gets another star on his jersey. He is a legend here in 38.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 11, 2022, 09:34:39 AM
@OldieButFrenchie le mec est un con..tout le monde veus ça. Laisse tombe, et courage pour mercredi...I won't be upset if Giroud gets another star on his jersey. He is a legend here in 38.

haha yeah I noticed   ;)
anyways I'll be crossing fingers wednesday....we all held hands with my wife and kids yesterday at the end of the game and it seemed to bring luck to Les Bleus!
and yes I can imagine Giroud being considered "l'enfant du pays" in the 38 !!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Royce Lopez on December 11, 2022, 01:11:17 PM
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They don't play for penalties, they just have shit strikers. I'm sure they'd love to win in regular time, haha.
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Maybe just concentrate on the art of midfield that is dying. Brazil is something you like? Individual dribbling and diving?
Croatia just can’t produce lightning fast players because of the genetics like other more “fun” national teams. France for example…dancers…L sign showing guys..referee favourites and so on… no one is happy for Croatia because their perfect party is ruined… they want Brazil Argentina.. savages that have zero sportsmanship.

Going for the penalty shootout is the most ignorant thing that someone could write… sometimes I wish that there is competition for humble small countries and you guys have something like big league final 8 . Where you can invite shit teams like England and USA…or Canada could squeeze in. You deserve to have fun and be entertained after all.

https://youtu.be/SDD0B6v__aw  - this is the way France wins in the finals ? Celebrate all you want….penalty before that ? It’s not even penalty anymore… stop being so full of yourself French prick.
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Hey prick. So you insult me, call Argentina and Brazil savages, call Mbappe "mbumba" (and we all know what you imply here asshole) and you expect me to answer nicely? Fuck off connard. Glad there's an "'ignore' button on Slap!

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a shame that little video of Griezman you posted does not show the other angles of the croatian player clipping his leg....Even the English commentators said that WAS a foul. And don't tell me the english were rooting for the French in 2018 hahaha....anyways bye.

YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT THAT IS NOT A DIVE FOR YOU!? FUCK OFF YOU SCUM.

Here you go you fucking scum his little French legs left the ground 10 seconds before impact

https://youtu.be/Ynaw4nPDkDA


People here hating on the World Cup in Qatar because they don’t respect human rights and without France and it’s president there wouldn’t be World Cup there… greedy French scum
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 11, 2022, 03:25:24 PM
now to get back to yesterday....what. a. game. That one will be a classic. It was so intense, I thought whoever wins this will win the whole thing! We'll see pretty soon if I was right.
Les Bleus had luck on their side obviously, but you need a bit of it in a WC, it's always been that way. England complaining about the ref is a bit rich honestly, when you are awarded 2 penalties....France scored two magnificent goals from open play, you failed to score, even from penalty, well that's it.

Anyways to put things in perspective....It took France a very long time to get there. I grew up watching the French team of Platini et al playing with so much style, but never winning (except for one Euro). Now France has become arguably the biggest football nation of the last 25 years: 3 WC finals, 2 WC titles, 2 euros. And let's not forget there are 60 French players in this WC! it's the most of any country, 26 in the French squad, the rest with Morocco, Senegal, Ghana, Cameroon etc (dual citizenship)....It was the same in 2018. French football clubs are just producing so much talent, it's amazing. and it shows: we lost Benzema, Nkunku, Pogba, Kante, and Lucas Hernandez to injury, but still reach the final 4.
now whatever happens honestly I'll be stoked. Morocco could make history, and France could make history too with a repeat...allez les bleus!!    8)

That ref was terrible and those penalties (the second one couldn’t have been clearer) had to almost be forced to be acknowledged by that ref by VAR, not to mention all the fouls.    I’m not complaining about the result, but let’s not act like that wasn’t a pathetic display

Also, congrats to France for having the foresight to colonize all the countries that would produce great soccer talent
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: el bong on December 11, 2022, 08:02:13 PM
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now to get back to yesterday....what. a. game. That one will be a classic. It was so intense, I thought whoever wins this will win the whole thing! We'll see pretty soon if I was right.
Les Bleus had luck on their side obviously, but you need a bit of it in a WC, it's always been that way. England complaining about the ref is a bit rich honestly, when you are awarded 2 penalties....France scored two magnificent goals from open play, you failed to score, even from penalty, well that's it.

Anyways to put things in perspective....It took France a very long time to get there. I grew up watching the French team of Platini et al playing with so much style, but never winning (except for one Euro). Now France has become arguably the biggest football nation of the last 25 years: 3 WC finals, 2 WC titles, 2 euros. And let's not forget there are 60 French players in this WC! it's the most of any country, 26 in the French squad, the rest with Morocco, Senegal, Ghana, Cameroon etc (dual citizenship)....It was the same in 2018. French football clubs are just producing so much talent, it's amazing. and it shows: we lost Benzema, Nkunku, Pogba, Kante, and Lucas Hernandez to injury, but still reach the final 4.
now whatever happens honestly I'll be stoked. Morocco could make history, and France could make history too with a repeat...allez les bleus!!    8)
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That ref was terrible and those penalties (the second one couldn’t have been clearer) had to almost be forced to be acknowledged by that ref by VAR, not to mention all the fouls.    I’m not complaining about the result, but let’s not act like that wasn’t a pathetic display

Also, congrats to France for having the foresight to colonize all the countries that would produce great soccer talent

lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Turtle Boy on December 11, 2022, 11:50:32 PM
Tbh I watched the england vs france and I also thought the referee was nicer with France.
Nonetheless he was always close to the action and didn't whistle in a lot of case for either france or england.
Beside the penalties, England had tons of occasions where they could have scored but didn't and France had way less occasions. Also the goals the french scored happened during a continuous play not a set play made by the decision of the referee. So all in all I don't think the referee made a huge impact and the result of the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 12, 2022, 12:14:45 AM
Right, I don’t have bitterness towards the game because VAR existed to make up for most of the refs’ shortcomings, but the result did at least feel against the play of the game.    France made the most of the opportunities provided, but England felt like the better side and Mbappe was neutralized for the most part.   

I’m happy with the team, they’re young and players like Saka and Bellingham are only going to get better.   I honestly thought Maguire was going to be the teams’ downfall.     Southgate is a good manager of personalities (or at least the best I’ve seen since I’ve been alive) and hopefully his team selection improves.   

Don’t know if having Reece James fit would have taken care of the Griezeman problem, but after 2010 and 2014, I’m just happy for the team to be leaving with their heads held high
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 12, 2022, 12:20:35 AM
Oh finally that one dude got banned, now we can talk football again.

I have to say, the refs on this WC seem to be really incosistent in what should be considered foul, card, penalty, etc. The only thing they all do the same are those crazy extra times.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 12, 2022, 12:29:09 AM
Next WC the referees will just be human avatars for the ai
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 12, 2022, 12:59:02 AM
Oh finally that one dude got banned, now we can talk football again.

I have to say, the refs on this WC seem to be really incosistent in what should be considered foul, card, penalty, etc. The only thing they all do the same are those crazy extra times.

Hah I think I’m getting kooked a ton for being an England supporter.  Haven’t really said anything controversial elsewhere, but whenever I post something about England my rep def takes a hit.   It’s kinda funny
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 12, 2022, 01:22:06 AM
Right, I don’t have bitterness towards the game because VAR existed to make up for most of the refs’ shortcomings, but the result did at least feel against the play of the game.    France made the most of the opportunities provided, but England felt like the better side and Mbappe was neutralized for the most part.   

I’m happy with the team, they’re young and players like Saka and Bellingham are only going to get better.   I honestly thought Maguire was going to be the teams’ downfall.     Southgate is a good manager of personalities (or at least the best I’ve seen since I’ve been alive) and hopefully his team selection improves.   

Don’t know if having Reece James fit would have taken care of the Griezeman problem, but after 2010 and 2014, I’m just happy for the team to be leaving with their heads held high

I see what you mean but that's exactly the nature of football. Dominating doesn't mean anything unless the ball hits the net. Ask Spain. Or even ask France in the Euro final vs Portugal.

Also England did neutralize Mbappe but that just left more space for Griezman, Dembele and Giroud. Look at the first French goal, Mbappe draws 4 (!) English defenders, opening up space in the middle. Even if he did not score, he was super important.

Finally....all I can tell you is I'm not the one kooking you haha
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 12, 2022, 01:28:19 AM
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Right, I don’t have bitterness towards the game because VAR existed to make up for most of the refs’ shortcomings, but the result did at least feel against the play of the game.    France made the most of the opportunities provided, but England felt like the better side and Mbappe was neutralized for the most part.   

I’m happy with the team, they’re young and players like Saka and Bellingham are only going to get better.   I honestly thought Maguire was going to be the teams’ downfall.     Southgate is a good manager of personalities (or at least the best I’ve seen since I’ve been alive) and hopefully his team selection improves.   

Don’t know if having Reece James fit would have taken care of the Griezeman problem, but after 2010 and 2014, I’m just happy for the team to be leaving with their heads held high
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I see what you mean but that's exactly the nature of football. Dominating doesn't mean anything unless the ball hits the net. Ask Spain. Or even ask France in the Euro final vs Portugal.

Also England did neutralize Mbappe but that just left more space for Griezman, Dembele and Giroud. Look at the first French goal, Mbappe draws 4 (!) English defenders, opening up space in the middle. Even if he did not score, he was super important.

Finally....all I can tell you is I'm not the one kooking you haha


Haha I wouldn’t think so.  Outside of that one guy, we’re all keeping it civil.   

I definitely remember those four on Mbappe hah.   I don’t discount anything the French did.   I’m just feeling (not pride necessarily) but something like that that England didn’t get trampled by the best team in the world and stood their ground and the French weren’t assholes about it like the Italians are every time they beat England.  France is a extremely likable team even without Kante.   If anything it makes me excited for a rematch in a non-friendly.   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: whale on December 12, 2022, 05:51:09 AM
Only gripe I have towards that game was the tackle on Kane first half. While not a pen, a clear foul that should have been a free kick. England had their chances, but didn't take 'em. I guess that's the story with Southgate, so much attacking talent on the squad but he can't unlock it for some reason.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: fredgallSOTY on December 12, 2022, 06:22:50 AM
Morocco!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 12, 2022, 06:50:47 AM
I root for France but also want to see Messi get his, I'd love to see Croatia get one more as this is likely their last chance and who doesn't want to see the first African team take it?  Tough cup this year.

Also, I am surprised hearing so many saying England dominated or played better-France is willing to concede overall possession because they are so lethal on the counter, it didn't surprise me at all that England controlled the ball. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 12, 2022, 07:36:21 AM
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Oh finally that one dude got banned, now we can talk football again.

I have to say, the refs on this WC seem to be really incosistent in what should be considered foul, card, penalty, etc. The only thing they all do the same are those crazy extra times.
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Hah I think I’m getting kooked a ton for being an England supporter.  Haven’t really said anything controversial elsewhere, but whenever I post something about England my rep def takes a hit.   It’s kinda funny

Strange, other than the one really vocal guy, it looked kinda chill here.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 12, 2022, 12:47:53 PM
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Oh finally that one dude got banned, now we can talk football again.

I have to say, the refs on this WC seem to be really incosistent in what should be considered foul, card, penalty, etc. The only thing they all do the same are those crazy extra times.
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Hah I think I’m getting kooked a ton for being an England supporter.  Haven’t really said anything controversial elsewhere, but whenever I post something about England my rep def takes a hit.   It’s kinda funny
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Strange, other than the one really vocal guy, it looked kinda chill here.

Majority happened around the EnG /US match when I was critical of USA’s side and the skewed perception here in us media
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 13, 2022, 12:07:48 AM
I root for France but also want to see Messi get his, I'd love to see Croatia get one more as this is likely their last chance and who doesn't want to see the first African team take it?  Tough cup this year.

Also, I am surprised hearing so many saying England dominated or played better-France is willing to concede overall possession because they are so lethal on the counter, it didn't surprise me at all that England controlled the ball.

yup that's pretty much how I feel too on both counts! (well except for Argentina....I like Messi but I don't think I really want to see them get a third star....)

->Atiba Applebum : oh yeah the English lads can be definitely proud of themselves man...They had a real good run. Actually like you said I feel both teams did good in not allowing the game to descend into a Netherlands/Argentina type situation! Keep it good-natured.

At this point I want to give credit to Didier Deschamps. His grit and team management has been at the heart of the French squad for so long....Dude's basically won everything: WC and Euro as captain of Les Bleus, Champions League as captain of Marseille, again with Juventus, WC and League of Nations as coach etc etc....
Btw here's some street French for you guys: French fans have been saying for a very long time that Deschamps usually has luck on his side. And the vulgar way of saying that in French is "avoir de la chatte" (litterally "to have some pussy".....). And the first meaning of "chatte" is "female cat". So French fans refer jokingly to "la chatte à Dédé" whenever fortune favors les Bleus! ("Didier's cat", Dédé being a shorter version of Didier).

(https://www.tshirt-corner.com/23748-large_default/libert%C3%A9-%C3%A9galit%C3%A9-la-chatte-%C3%A0-d%C3%A9d%C3%A9-t-shirt-homme.jpg)

(https://www.tshirt-corner.com/33832-large_default/t-shirt-homme-la-chatte-%C3%A0-d%C3%A9d%C3%A9-lucky-cat.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 13, 2022, 12:29:53 AM
I don’t know why but I see France struggling a bit against Morocco tomorrow. England were better but maybe they lacked the resilience that Morocco will have considering they have nothing to lose here. I also read / watched things in the English medias and damn it’s amazing to see the pressure that the Three Lions had. Poor Kane.

That said… « Allé les Bleus on est tous ensemble »
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 13, 2022, 11:35:14 AM
I just was told and watched the video of that Brazilian cunt throwing the cat off the table in the press conference...fucking glad they got knocked out...karma.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 13, 2022, 12:11:45 PM
Messi peno was unreal.

As for the spider what a goal
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 13, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
that messi assist. wow
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 13, 2022, 03:58:26 PM
that messi assist. wow

Fucking beautiful. So stoked on having Argentina in the finals. I'm conflicted because the bet I made with my friends at the start of the World Cup to have Argentina win would be a pretty nice payday and I can can guarantee profit by betting on whoever they play as an insurance policy. But that seems like a bitch ass move. Need to ponder it more.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: SneakySecrets on December 13, 2022, 05:41:59 PM
So did Qatar kill that reporter?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 13, 2022, 06:53:22 PM
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Fucking beautiful. So stoked on having Argentina in the finals. I'm conflicted because the bet I made with my friends at the start of the World Cup to have Argentina win would be a pretty nice payday and I can can guarantee profit by betting on whoever they play as an insurance policy. But that seems like a bitch ass move. Need to ponder it more.

What makes it a bitch ass move?   Cover your bases
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 14, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
I don’t know why but I see France struggling a bit against Morocco tomorrow. England were better but maybe they lacked the resilience that Morocco will have considering they have nothing to lose here. I also read / watched things in the English medias and damn it’s amazing to see the pressure that the Three Lions had. Poor Kane.

That said… « Allé les Bleus on est tous ensemble »

I fear the opposite. Morocco may well be worn out by now and I can see their incredible run end in a walkover. Probably was part of the match yesterday as well, with all the OT Croatia played prior. It would be a shame.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: PlugSkullcandy on December 14, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
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I don’t know why but I see France struggling a bit against Morocco tomorrow. England were better but maybe they lacked the resilience that Morocco will have considering they have nothing to lose here. I also read / watched things in the English medias and damn it’s amazing to see the pressure that the Three Lions had. Poor Kane.

That said… « Allé les Bleus on est tous ensemble »
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I fear the opposite. Morocco may well be worn out by now and I can see their incredible run end in a walkover. Probably was part of the match yesterday as well, with all the OT Croatia played prior. It would be a shame.

Damn, I was somehow right ! So many missed opportunities for Morocco. I don’t follow football that often but they have many talents.

Again France was clutch. Griezmann is having a great World Cup. I’m happy « we » qualified for the finals. France vs. Argentina !

Also I took this photo in 2018 I hope i’ll remake it

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52564322403_ca21b81baa_c.jpg)

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: munchbox on December 14, 2022, 01:19:33 PM
two of my clubs players are in the final (martinez & varane)
does that count as neutral?

i was enjoying the narrative of messi needing a wc trophy
but the man has no competition for the goat race
france probably win but would love the meltdown if they lose
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: D10S on December 14, 2022, 01:20:36 PM
MESSI vs MBAPPE = TYSHAWN vs NYJAH
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 14, 2022, 01:33:15 PM
God dam it Morrocco could you guys at least of taken the fucking shot. Oh well it's the expected result. Who do I want to win now the team that eliminated Aus or the team that crunched them first round hmmmm
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Owen on December 14, 2022, 02:21:05 PM
Stoked that it looks like Konate will be playing in the final. He's had a great tournament and I can't wait to see him back playing at Liverpool
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 14, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
Stoked that it looks like Konate will be playing in the final. He's had a great tournament and I can't wait to see him back playing at Liverpool

Not to mention it sounds like a move for Enzo is on the cards
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 15, 2022, 01:13:31 AM
what a crazy world cup....If you had told me a month ago this would go down, I would not have believed it. With all the hurt players and the winner's curse, I really expected us to go out early. Not to mention Morocco beating Spain, Belgium and Portugal!! What a run they had...Hats off to them really.
Random thoughts:

I can't believe Morocco did not score! If that bicycle kick had gone in man...Could have been legendary.

in that same vein, if Giroud's cannonball shot had gone in instead of hitting the post...2-0 after 15 minutes of play, it would have been much easier for us.

France has now reached 4 finals in the last 7 WC. Can't argue with that! talk about luck, reffing, style of play all you want, it's an amazing achievement. Especially for a country that had never gone past the semi before 98.

Again, credit to Deschamps's management. Kolo Muani scores with his first touch.....

Finally: Griezman! He was everywhere for les Bleus in this WC. Really hope he scores in the final!

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 15, 2022, 12:32:50 PM
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Fucking beautiful. So stoked on having Argentina in the finals. I'm conflicted because the bet I made with my friends at the start of the World Cup to have Argentina win would be a pretty nice payday and I can can guarantee profit by betting on whoever they play as an insurance policy. But that seems like a bitch ass move. Need to ponder it more.
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What makes it a bitch ass move?   Cover your bases

I bet $150 and would get $750 for Argentina winning, so $600 profit. So if I bet $250 on France and, with current odds, get around $225 profit if they won, then it would give me only $75 back after excluding my original $150 bet. So I just feel like I've been sweating Argentina this whole time and if it got to the finals and I just hedged a bet to potentially get back $75 profit rather than just sticking with my original bet to make $600 profit, it feels like a pushover move. I sort of enjoy the bigger wins/losses vs. playing it safe, so I feel like I would be bummed on either result if I do the hedge. Just my own thoughts, but your right, the responsible approach is just to cover my bases.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Owen on December 15, 2022, 01:07:46 PM
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Fucking beautiful. So stoked on having Argentina in the finals. I'm conflicted because the bet I made with my friends at the start of the World Cup to have Argentina win would be a pretty nice payday and I can can guarantee profit by betting on whoever they play as an insurance policy. But that seems like a bitch ass move. Need to ponder it more.
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What makes it a bitch ass move?   Cover your bases
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I bet $150 and would get $750 for Argentina winning, so $600 profit. So if I bet $250 on France and, with current odds, get around $225 profit if they won, then it would give me only $75 back after excluding my original $150 bet. So I just feel like I've been sweating Argentina this whole time and if it got to the finals and I just hedged a bet to potentially get back $75 profit rather than just sticking with my original bet to make $600 profit, it feels like a pushover move. I sort of enjoy the bigger wins/losses vs. playing it safe, so I feel like I would be bummed on either result if I do the hedge. Just my own thoughts, but your right, the responsible approach is just to cover my bases.

Why don't you bet $150 on France and then worst case scenario you break even?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 15, 2022, 01:21:37 PM
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Fucking beautiful. So stoked on having Argentina in the finals. I'm conflicted because the bet I made with my friends at the start of the World Cup to have Argentina win would be a pretty nice payday and I can can guarantee profit by betting on whoever they play as an insurance policy. But that seems like a bitch ass move. Need to ponder it more.
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What makes it a bitch ass move?   Cover your bases
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I bet $150 and would get $750 for Argentina winning, so $600 profit. So if I bet $250 on France and, with current odds, get around $225 profit if they won, then it would give me only $75 back after excluding my original $150 bet. So I just feel like I've been sweating Argentina this whole time and if it got to the finals and I just hedged a bet to potentially get back $75 profit rather than just sticking with my original bet to make $600 profit, it feels like a pushover move. I sort of enjoy the bigger wins/losses vs. playing it safe, so I feel like I would be bummed on either result if I do the hedge. Just my own thoughts, but your right, the responsible approach is just to cover my bases.
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Why don't you bet $150 on France and then worst case scenario you break even?

Since odds will be around +115 or so, a $150 bet would profit around $120 or so, so would have to be around $200 to profit the $150. And going back to knowing my personality, sweating Argentina this whole time with a nice-sized bet to just break even seems pretty anti-climactic to me. I just feel like if I'm already willing to gamble on a bet, the fun is in the winning/losing of a bet. Just a funny situation to find my original bet in where I can guaranteed lock up money on it, so I've just been pondering it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: baker3G on December 15, 2022, 04:48:56 PM
So did Qatar kill that reporter?

pretty sus that everyone is just ignoring this question.. hmmmm
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 15, 2022, 05:08:36 PM
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pretty sus that everyone is just ignoring this question.. hmmmm

Well his wife said what the autopsy said and she didn’t seem to question it.   I don’t see why Qatar would kill/discretely poison HIM of all people just for wearing a rainbow shirt once.   Is there something more to it than that that I haven’t read?
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 15, 2022, 11:51:31 PM
I gotta say I am getting real tired of all the "team africa" comments I read about Les Bleus....Just like Trevor Noah in 2018.
What is France supposed to do? Stop immigrants from coming? Not give them citizenship when they are born in France? (which some European countries actually still do....) Not select good players for the national squad because they don't have the "right" color of skin?
Platini, the French idol of the 80's, was the son of Italian immigrants, but that was "okay" because he was white?
I guess people abroad just don't understand how la République works... I mean France had a Black member of parliament at the time of the French revolution, way back in the 18th century.
now of course the French system is not perfect and racism exists in France too, but to see left-leaning people using the exact same arguments as the fascists drives me fucking nuts.
I guess I'm venting here....so let's go back to football! Crazy how this sport brings out such deep feelings.

(https://lepetitjournal.com/sites/default/files/styles/main_article/public/2022-12/france%20maroc%202022.webp?itok=pdg0Hbgr)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

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Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 16, 2022, 12:05:28 AM
I gotta say I am getting real tired of all the "team africa" comments I read about Les Bleus....Just like Trevor Noah in 2018.
What is France supposed to do? Stop immigrants from coming? Not give them citizenship when they are born in France? (which some European countries actually still do....) Not select good players for the national squad because they don't have the "right" color of skin?
Platini, the French idol of the 80's, was the son of Italian immigrants, but that was "okay" because he was white?
I guess people abroad just don't understand how la République works... I mean France had a Black member of parliament at the time of the French revolution, way back in the 18th century.
now of course the French system is not perfect and racism exists in France too, but to see left-leaning people using the exact same arguments as the fascists drives me fucking nuts.
I guess I'm venting here....so let's go back to football! Crazy how this sport brings out such deep feelings.

(https://lepetitjournal.com/sites/default/files/styles/main_article/public/2022-12/france%20maroc%202022.webp?itok=pdg0Hbgr)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

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No! Only Americans are allowed diversity
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 16, 2022, 12:16:11 AM
I gotta say I am getting real tired of all the "team africa" comments I read about Les Bleus....Just like Trevor Noah in 2018.
What is France supposed to do? Stop immigrants from coming? Not give them citizenship when they are born in France? (which some European countries actually still do....) Not select good players for the national squad because they don't have the "right" color of skin?
Platini, the French idol of the 80's, was the son of Italian immigrants, but that was "okay" because he was white?
I guess people abroad just don't understand how la République works... I mean France had a Black member of parliament at the time of the French revolution, way back in the 18th century.
now of course the French system is not perfect and racism exists in France too, but to see left-leaning people using the exact same arguments as the fascists drives me fucking nuts.
I guess I'm venting here....so let's go back to football! Crazy how this sport brings out such deep feelings.

(https://lepetitjournal.com/sites/default/files/styles/main_article/public/2022-12/france%20maroc%202022.webp?itok=pdg0Hbgr)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

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The cup-tie issue is a weird one for all the use the residency case to claim a player, but it is the players choice where they want to play.  England could have claimed Haaland, for example.   All the French players seem to be born in France, so it’s just a sour grapes thing that France just happens to have immigrant ties to places that produce better football players.   Morocco was the one that had 16 players born elsewhere.   That’s where it gets shady
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 16, 2022, 09:04:43 AM
What an incredible cup.  Predictions anyone? 
2-1 France-Mbappe is smothered but gets 1 assist, Giroud scores.  Messi is incredible and scores but Argentina plays too aggressively overall and a more composed France is able to counter.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: whale on December 16, 2022, 10:42:39 AM
Nah, fuck it! I’m calling it, Julian Alvarez hat trick, Messi two incredible assists and a pen.
4-0
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 17, 2022, 05:15:21 AM
Predictions.....well considering France Argentina 2018 was my favorite game of football ever, I want a repeat! 7 goals thriller....it was epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBABAXlxhg

so I'll say.....3-2 for les Bleus! With Messi being gifted a penalty (because he's Messi and "deserves" to win the WC  ::)  )
And Paredes losing it, tackling Griezman's head off it and receiving a red....
In any case, my main wish: NO PENALTY SHOOTOUT. A repeat of 2006 would be too cruel....

edit: Fifa does not let me embed, so fuck it even better, I'll post the french version of that game! listen to the commentator (one of them being Lizarazu) when Pavard scores....  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 17, 2022, 06:11:41 AM
So many stupid posts about the French team not being french on Facebook...one saying Olivier Giroud is Italian...dumb fucks Chambéry is in France etc.
Anyways thank fuck I don't work Monday...horns and cunts were streaming till 4am after the last match.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 17, 2022, 07:52:16 AM
So many stupid posts about the French team not being french on Facebook...one saying Olivier Giroud is Italian...dumb fucks Chambéry is in France etc.
Anyways thank fuck I don't work Monday...horns and cunts were streaming till 4am after the last match.

oh man....Like I said in my previous post, I've heard/read all sorts of BS about the origins of the French players, but that takes the cake. Giroud is just the Frenchest name ever. Yes he has 2 italian grand-parents.... but 30% of the French population has at least 1 foreign grand-parent. I guess people abroad just don't realize how much of a melting pot France is.

anyways....man you just made me so nostalgic with your talk of horns till 4 am hahaha....I've been living abroad for 15 years now and I really miss watching les Bleus in France.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: neckbeard on December 17, 2022, 02:22:45 PM
prediction: 1-1 in regular time. each team scores one in extra time. goes to penalties. argentina wins 4-3 in penalties
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 18, 2022, 07:30:22 AM
That was NOT a penalty.

Looks to me the red does not like champagne.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 18, 2022, 07:40:28 AM
That was NOT a penalty.

Looks to me the red does not like champagne.
I think yes a penalty but only by the exact rule. Guy went down way too easy but you can't put your hands on someone.
If for some reason I got to change the rules of football I'd def reshape the goal box because those penalties piss me off. He was in a shit position way out to the side no where near the goal.
Lastly the condition of the in goal is looking pretty shitty. You'd think they'd just returf the whole six yard box
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 18, 2022, 07:50:04 AM
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I think yes a penalty but only by the exact rule. Guy went down way too easy but you can't put your hands on someone.
If for some reason I got to change the rules of football I'd def reshape the goal box because those penalties piss me off. He was in a shit position way out to the side no where near the goal.
Lastly the condition of the in goal is looking pretty shitty. You'd think they'd just returf the whole six yard box

Di Maria tripped himself first tho. That said Dembele played like shit and that mistake he made before the penalty was so stupid.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 18, 2022, 07:54:06 AM
I can’t take the fact that Argentina is better for sure in the first period, but they fuck it up with the stupid theatrical shit💁.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 18, 2022, 07:56:42 AM
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I think yes a penalty but only by the exact rule. Guy went down way too easy but you can't put your hands on someone.
If for some reason I got to change the rules of football I'd def reshape the goal box because those penalties piss me off. He was in a shit position way out to the side no where near the goal.
Lastly the condition of the in goal is looking pretty shitty. You'd think they'd just returf the whole six yard box
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Di Maria tripped himself first tho. That said Dembele played like shit and that mistake he made before the penalty was so stupid.
Yeah it's shit I just meant I can see why they gave it too. I have no doubt in the next few days we'll see montages of pens not given that were worse in comparison.
I don't know what the solution is tho because it's kind of a problem now with everyone always going down no matter what.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: el bong on December 18, 2022, 08:02:35 AM
looks like I've won a very fat bet
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 18, 2022, 08:03:32 AM
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I think yes a penalty but only by the exact rule. Guy went down way too easy but you can't put your hands on someone.
If for some reason I got to change the rules of football I'd def reshape the goal box because those penalties piss me off. He was in a shit position way out to the side no where near the goal.
Lastly the condition of the in goal is looking pretty shitty. You'd think they'd just returf the whole six yard box
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Di Maria tripped himself first tho. That said Dembele played like shit and that mistake he made before the penalty was so stupid.
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Yeah it's shit I just meant I can see why they gave it too. I have no doubt in the next few days we'll see montages of pens not given that were worse in comparison.
I don't know what the solution is tho because it's kind of a problem now with everyone always going down no matter what.

Thats true. I was brought up differently as a football player and it seems the game suffers big time. Everyone is affraid of tackling.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 18, 2022, 08:09:45 AM
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That was NOT a penalty.

Looks to me the red does not like champagne.
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I think yes a penalty but only by the exact rule. Guy went down way too easy but you can't put your hands on someone.
If for some reason I got to change the rules of football I'd def reshape the goal box because those penalties piss me off. He was in a shit position way out to the side no where near the goal.
Lastly the condition of the in goal is looking pretty shitty. You'd think they'd just returf the whole six yard box
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Di Maria tripped himself first tho. That said Dembele played like shit and that mistake he made before the penalty was so stupid.
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Yeah it's shit I just meant I can see why they gave it too. I have no doubt in the next few days we'll see montages of pens not given that were worse in comparison.
I don't know what the solution is tho because it's kind of a problem now with everyone always going down no matter what.
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Thats true. I was brought up differently as a football player and it seems the game suffers big time. Everyone is affraid of tackling.
Oh yeah you would seriously get boo'd off the pitch if you fell like that in a game when I played. It also just makes the game look like shit (or at least here where the other main sports are rugby and Australian football).
It's funny because after the games they've been playing old WC games and people are getting hacked to shit and stay up and keep fighting for the ball. Its so much better to watch but I guess in a way led to people flopping making sure the red stops the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Síota on December 18, 2022, 08:58:06 AM

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Grenoble...
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Skibb on December 18, 2022, 09:50:24 AM
This game is crazy
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 18, 2022, 10:00:07 AM
This game is crazy
It's weird because for the first like 70 something mins I was thinking France doesn't even look like they want to be there.
Also weird don't know if we got dodgy coverage here but seems like people aren't even celebrating really. Crowds and teams were going way more crazy in the round of 16
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 18, 2022, 10:02:50 AM
What a fucking match
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on December 18, 2022, 10:10:23 AM
looks like I've won a very fat bet
I cant even imagine how you were feeling during that shootout haha
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: el bong on December 18, 2022, 10:20:43 AM
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It's weird because for the first like 70 something mins I was thinking France doesn't even look like they want to be there.
Also weird don't know if we got dodgy coverage here but seems like people aren't even celebrating really. Crowds and teams were going way more crazy in the round of 16

Yeah they had 0 shots on the goal in the first 70 min, wtf!

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I cant even imagine how you were feeling during that shootout haha

almost ate my words
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Cthulhu! on December 18, 2022, 11:04:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUUrW7xJSw4
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: RCB3 on December 18, 2022, 12:35:02 PM
Never ended up hedging my bet and just let it ride on Argentina. What a fucking stressful, but fun, game to sit through. Let's fucking go Argentina!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: neckbeard on December 18, 2022, 12:55:39 PM
prediction: 1-1 in regular time. each team scores one in extra time. goes to penalties. argentina wins 4-3 in penalties

did I call it or what
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on December 18, 2022, 01:30:14 PM
Incredible game, nail-biter. Glad Messi got his, glad Argentina won for the first time in 35 years
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: LUGR on December 18, 2022, 05:46:05 PM
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No, but you were pretty close.
did I call it or what
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 18, 2022, 08:09:52 PM
Scoring a hat trick in the final and still losing...that's rough.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 19, 2022, 12:36:25 AM
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did I call it or what

Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Scholesey on December 19, 2022, 12:51:01 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X

I back this 100%, ref was ridiculous.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 19, 2022, 01:02:43 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X

I thought the ref got them all right. Even if they were light fouls, he called them consistently. Thuram's was a dive, check it again. He even smirked about it. And iirc on the Coman foul ref called advantage, which led to a shot on goal. Then there's no free kick of course.

Must've been a tough loss to swallow Frenchie. You're right though, you guys have so much talent coming that we don't need to feel too bad for France. They will be back.

The end of the Messi Ronaldo Era. That debate has clearly been put to bed. (If it ever was one.) Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 19, 2022, 01:30:47 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X
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I thought the ref got them all right. Even if they were light fouls, he called them consistently. Thuram's was a dive, check it again. He even smirked about it. And iirc on the Coman foul ref called advantage, which led to a shot on goal. Then there's no free kick of course.

Must've been a tough loss to swallow Frenchie. You're right though, you guys have so much talent coming that we don't need to feel too bad for France. They will be back.

The end of the Messi Ronaldo Era. That debate has clearly been put to bed. (If it ever was one.) Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.

you're right about the free kick, I forgot the advantage rule does not work like rugby.
I don't agree about the foul on Thuram though. If that was a dive, how about the 2 previous penalties?? No consistency there. Plus thuram was in a position to shoot, unlike DiMaria.

in any case I don't want to dwell on the reffing too much. That's not the main thing.
On the whole I just wish refs handed yellows more, to stop players disrespecting them. Touching the ref and intimidating him should not be tolerated.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 19, 2022, 01:50:50 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X
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I thought the ref got them all right. Even if they were light fouls, he called them consistently. Thuram's was a dive, check it again. He even smirked about it. And iirc on the Coman foul ref called advantage, which led to a shot on goal. Then there's no free kick of course.

Must've been a tough loss to swallow Frenchie. You're right though, you guys have so much talent coming that we don't need to feel too bad for France. They will be back.

The end of the Messi Ronaldo Era. That debate has clearly been put to bed. (If it ever was one.) Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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you're right about the free kick, I forgot the advantage rule does not work like rugby.
I don't agree about the foul on Thuram though. If that was a dive, how about the 2 previous penalties?? No consistency there. Plus thuram was in a position to shoot, unlike DiMaria.

in any case I don't want to dwell on the reffing too much. That's not the main thing.
On the whole I just wish refs handed yellows more, to stop players disrespecting them. Touching the ref and intimidating him should not be tolerated.

I completely agree with you on rugby reffing. Football would have so much to gain from it.

If you'll excuse just a little more dwelling though... Thuram stuck out his leg, went out of his way to find contact with the defender, while the previous two were tripped by the defender. Of course they made the most of it, and could have stayed on their feet probably, but that is true for a great many pens that are being called, and is not considered diving (even if there is an element of diving to it). Also, whether players are in a position to shoot or not doesn't factor into the ref's decision of awarding a pen or not (though it can affect cards given.)


Edit: responding to your positivity. Yes, probably best final ever? Al-Thani could hardly have scripted it better if he tried  ;)

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Mean salto on December 19, 2022, 01:55:41 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X
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I thought the ref got them all right. Even if they were light fouls, he called them consistently. Thuram's was a dive, check it again. He even smirked about it. And iirc on the Coman foul ref called advantage, which led to a shot on goal. Then there's no free kick of course.

Must've been a tough loss to swallow Frenchie. You're right though, you guys have so much talent coming that we don't need to feel too bad for France. They will be back.

The end of the Messi Ronaldo Era. That debate has clearly been put to bed. (If it ever was one.) Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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you're right about the free kick, I forgot the advantage rule does not work like rugby.
I don't agree about the foul on Thuram though. If that was a dive, how about the 2 previous penalties?? No consistency there. Plus thuram was in a position to shoot, unlike DiMaria.

in any case I don't want to dwell on the reffing too much. That's not the main thing.
On the whole I just wish refs handed yellows more, to stop players disrespecting them. Touching the ref and intimidating him should not be tolerated.
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I completely agree with you on rugby reffing. Football would have so much to gain from it.

If you'll excuse just a little more dwelling though... Thuram stuck out his leg, went out of his way to find contact with the defender, while the previous two were tripped by the defender. Of course they made the most of it, and could have stayed on their feet probably, but that is true for a great many pens that are being called, and is not considered diving (even if there is an element of diving to it). Also, whether players are in a position to shoot or not doesn't factor into the ref's decision of awarding a pen or not (though it can affect cards given.)
Rugby's not perfect either sometimes they let shit go on way too long before making a decision. People were already complaining with all the added time if they ran it like a rugby game they'd be adding on an extra hour per match.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Owen on December 19, 2022, 02:34:22 AM
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did I call it or what
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Nah you didn't. Even George Martin could not imagine that shit. Man I was an emotional wreck by the end of this game...

Props to Argentina, they just wanted it more. I don't know wtf happened to France in the first 80 minutes, totally outplayed. Griezman was barely there, after playing wonderfully in every game. Was it the virus that hit the squad or Argentina being hungrier and just playing better? Guess we'll never know.
Rewatched the highlights and I have to say the reffing at the end of regular time was really dodgy. Thuram is fouled in the box and gets yellow carded for diving?? That was more of a penalty than the first 2 that were awarded! Then straight after that, Koman is blatantly fouled right outside the box....and no free kick?

On the other hand like I said, France was outplayed for 80 minutes so we can't complain really. Btw can't believe we finished the game with Kolo Muani (who was outstanding) Disali, Cavaminga, Konate...Young players with so little experience. Of course we lost the penalty shootout. Les bleus will be back though. I'd be surprised if Mbappe does not win another WC in his career.

Finally Martinez really showed his class.....Also mocking Mbappe in the locker room...
Makes me wonder how the mood will be in the PSG locker room between Mbappe and Messi.

(https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/d73876a98be200d1848689c8d7b3fb33/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/12/18/16713992054145.jpg)

edit: I want to add some positivity here! Game was amazing, will become legendary for sure. the goals by DiMaria and Mbappe's (that volley!) were beautiful. OK that's about as much positivity I can muster after a penalty shootout defeat.   :-X
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I thought the ref got them all right. Even if they were light fouls, he called them consistently. Thuram's was a dive, check it again. He even smirked about it. And iirc on the Coman foul ref called advantage, which led to a shot on goal. Then there's no free kick of course.

Must've been a tough loss to swallow Frenchie. You're right though, you guys have so much talent coming that we don't need to feel too bad for France. They will be back.

The end of the Messi Ronaldo Era. That debate has clearly been put to bed. (If it ever was one.) Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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you're right about the free kick, I forgot the advantage rule does not work like rugby.
I don't agree about the foul on Thuram though. If that was a dive, how about the 2 previous penalties?? No consistency there. Plus thuram was in a position to shoot, unlike DiMaria.

in any case I don't want to dwell on the reffing too much. That's not the main thing.
On the whole I just wish refs handed yellows more, to stop players disrespecting them. Touching the ref and intimidating him should not be tolerated.

Did anyone happen to see the Moroccan team surrounding and pestering the ref in the Morocco vs Croatia 3rd place final towards the end? Shit was getting heated. Not cool at all
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Turtle Boy on December 19, 2022, 02:47:01 AM
The final was incredible.
I don't understand the procedure on the use of VAR, it should be used ANYTIME you tell a penalty.
France played so bad on the first 70 minutes that they didn't deserve to win. However it can be explained by a lot of things: Most of the players aren't the usual players of the team due to injuries, a lot of players had the flu, and the team had one day less than argentina to rest before the final. The referee was kinda light on a lot of actions, but it doesn't explain that France didn't shoot until the minute 70. I think it was already a miracle for that team to access to the final and Argentina wanted it way more. It's the 4th final in the last 7 world cup which is amazing for France tbh. Also I found it ridiculous how Macron came to talk to Mbappe and get coverage of himself. His talk in the changing room was so cringe too. President of Argentina decided to stay in Argentina and watch the game in his house on his TV as most of Argentina did and I find it really cool.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 19, 2022, 03:23:29 AM
The final was incredible.
I don't understand the procedure on the use of VAR, it should be used ANYTIME you tell a penalty.
France played so bad on the first 70 minutes that they didn't deserve to win. However it can be explained by a lot of things: Most of the players aren't the usual players of the team due to injuries, a lot of players had the flu, and the team had one day less than argentina to rest before the final. The referee was kinda light on a lot of actions, but it doesn't explain that France didn't shoot until the minute 70. I think it was already a miracle for that team to access to the final and Argentina wanted it way more. It's the 4th final in the last 7 world cup which is amazing tbh. Also I found it ridiculous how Macron came to talk to Mbappe and get coverage of himself. His talk in the changing room so cringe too. President of Argentina decided to stay in Argentina and watch the game in his house on his TV as most of Argentina did and I find it really cool.

It is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Turtle Boy on December 19, 2022, 03:30:02 AM
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I don't understand the procedure on the use of VAR, it should be used ANYTIME you tell a penalty.
France played so bad on the first 70 minutes that they didn't deserve to win. However it can be explained by a lot of things: Most of the players aren't the usual players of the team due to injuries, a lot of players had the flu, and the team had one day less than argentina to rest before the final. The referee was kinda light on a lot of actions, but it doesn't explain that France didn't shoot until the minute 70. I think it was already a miracle for that team to access to the final and Argentina wanted it way more. It's the 4th final in the last 7 world cup which is amazing tbh. Also I found it ridiculous how Macron came to talk to Mbappe and get coverage of himself. His talk in the changing room so cringe too. President of Argentina decided to stay in Argentina and watch the game in his house on his TV as most of Argentina did and I find it really cool.
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It is.
My bad, I thought they didn't check on the first penalty
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 19, 2022, 03:43:35 AM
Scoring a hat trick in the final and still losing...that's rough.

Nyjah should give him a call...

You feel for France, but back to back World Cup finals are already a huge achievement (especially after winning one of them) - not to mention missing Nkunku, Pogba, Benzema, and so many others.   

The only final I'm actually gutted for France to lose was when they lost (iirc) that Euro final right after the night club shooting.   It was a shame that the country didn't get that cathartic moment.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 19, 2022, 03:59:23 AM
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Scoring a hat trick in the final and still losing...that's rough.
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Nyjah should give him a call...

You feel for France, but back to back World Cup finals are already a huge achievement (especially after winning one of them) - not to mention missing Nkunku, Pogba, Benzema, and so many others.   

The only final I'm actually gutted for France to lose was when they lost (iirc) that Euro final right after the night club shooting.   It was a shame that the country didn't get that cathartic moment.

Yup. That was the Euro final 2016 (played in France!). After the Bataclan shootings in 2015....
I still remember vividly Gignac hitting the post    :-X
It probably taught les Bleus a valuable lesson though, for 2018.

Also agree about Macron trying way too hard to insert himself in the picture!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 19, 2022, 06:47:04 AM
What a final game. 
French fans, take solace in that they almost won while missing 6 starters against the best player of all time.  Les Bleus will be back.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 19, 2022, 07:05:13 AM
What a final game. 
French fans, take solace in that they almost won while missing 6 starters against the best player of all time.  Les Bleus will be back.

Hopefully DD doesn't get any stick for not flying Benzema out for the Final match, I think it was the right call regardless of the outcome

Update: and now Benzema has announced he’s retiring from the French National side.   Fuck em.   Haven’t been down with him since the Valbuena shit (unless there’s something I missed and he was exonerated)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: jorge on December 19, 2022, 07:24:50 AM
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What a final game. 
French fans, take solace in that they almost won while missing 6 starters against the best player of all time.  Les Bleus will be back.
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Hopefully DD doesn't get any stick for not flying Benzema out for the Final match, I think it was the right call regardless of the outcome
No doubt about it.  You can't just drop him in a World Cup final, especially since he wasn't needed to get there in the first place. 
Forgot about the virus.  So France almost beat the team with the greatest player of all time while missing 6 starters, a couple of those are arguably the best at their positions in the world, and the team on the pitch may have been sick.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 19, 2022, 07:58:45 AM
Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.

I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 19, 2022, 09:17:05 AM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.

But at the same time, Mbappe won’t have the same caliber of club success Haaland does as long as he plays in Ligue 1.  Curious when/if either of them win Champions League and whether it happens at their current clubs

Casuals/non fans will always say Mbappe bc they tune in to the WC, but everyone else knows what Haaland is/can do is off the charts this season   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: excitableboy on December 19, 2022, 10:11:20 AM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.

Hehe, that's true but then again, the WC is but a sideshow to league football. Back to the As In Soccer thread we go.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Alan on December 19, 2022, 10:42:11 AM
I feel like the criteria for these debates are always shifting, which is why I should have known better than to get involved, haha.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on December 19, 2022, 01:33:38 PM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.

George Best never won a world cup either.

Pelé good, Maradona better, George Best.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 19, 2022, 03:26:02 PM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.
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George Best never won a world cup either.

Pelé good, Maradona better, George Best.

George Best never even played in a World Cup tournament.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on December 19, 2022, 04:34:23 PM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.
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George Best never won a world cup either.

Pelé good, Maradona better, George Best.
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George Best never even played in a World Cup tournament.
That's my fucking point.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on December 20, 2022, 12:26:01 AM
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Now it's between Haaland and Mbappé.
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I mean, that's been put to bed already too since Haaland will never win a WC, haha.
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George Best never won a world cup either.
Pelé good, Maradona better, George Best.
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George Best never even played in a World Cup tournament.
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That's my fucking point.
AND HE HAS A FUCKIGN AIRPORT THAT'S NAMED AFTER HIM!  8)
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 20, 2022, 01:02:19 AM
Ah it wasn’t until I saw Aguero hand Messi the mOtm trophy that I realized he missed out bc of his medical induced retirement.   Poor guy
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 20, 2022, 01:28:37 AM
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What a final game. 
French fans, take solace in that they almost won while missing 6 starters against the best player of all time.  Les Bleus will be back.
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Hopefully DD doesn't get any stick for not flying Benzema out for the Final match, I think it was the right call regardless of the outcome

Update: and now Benzema has announced he’s retiring from the French National side.   Fuck em.   Haven’t been down with him since the Valbuena shit (unless there’s something I missed and he was exonerated)

Nah he won't. The whole Benzema/Giroud debate has been pretty toxic in France and I think most French fans have come to see Benzema for what he is: a great player, but a shitty human being. The Valbuena affair was bad already but the final straw for me was when he compared Giroud to a go-kart, while he himself was a Formula One....
all the while Giroud has a better goal per selections ratio than him!

I have to say one thing that really gives me hope for the future is Mbappe's mental strength. You have to remember he missed his penalty vs Switzerland in the 2020 Euro....And sunday he scored 3 vs one the best keepers at this shit. Cojones of steel. Plus he looked so pissed when the match ended....you know he'll back for blood  ;)
maybe this will be the start of an epic France-Argentine rivalry....The 2018 and 2022 games were by far some of the most epic in WC history!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 20, 2022, 01:33:25 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmWlA6UNfYo/?hl=fr

also, I kinda changed my mind about Macron when I saw these pics...I might be naive, but it looks like he just reacted like an average French dude at the equalizer! dude may have been more sincere than I thought!
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 20, 2022, 01:54:34 AM
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What a final game. 
French fans, take solace in that they almost won while missing 6 starters against the best player of all time.  Les Bleus will be back.
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Hopefully DD doesn't get any stick for not flying Benzema out for the Final match, I think it was the right call regardless of the outcome

Update: and now Benzema has announced he’s retiring from the French National side.   Fuck em.   Haven’t been down with him since the Valbuena shit (unless there’s something I missed and he was exonerated)
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Nah he won't. The whole Benzema/Giroud debate has been pretty toxic in France and I think most French fans have come to see Benzema for what he is: a great player, but a shitty human being. The Valbuena affair was bad already but the final straw for me was when he compared Giroud to a go-kart, while he himself was a Formula One....
all the while Giroud has a better goal per selections ratio than him!

I have to say one thing that really gives me hope for the future is Mbappe's mental strength. You have to remember he missed his penalty vs Switzerland in the 2020 Euro....And sunday he scored 3 vs one the best keepers at this shit. Cojones of steel. Plus he looked so pissed when the match ended....you know he'll back for blood  ;)
maybe this will be the start of an epic France-Argentine rivalry....The 2018 and 2022 games were by far some of the most epic in WC history!

Ok I’m glad that Benzema’s form last season didn’t overshadow what a creep he has historically been.   

Mbappe def is strong mentally considering the stick he’s received over his PSG contract and all the surrounding drama, plus what you mentioned.    And all at an obnoxiously young age.   
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: brycickle on December 20, 2022, 11:57:24 AM

maybe this will be the start of an epic France-Argentine rivalry....The 2018 and 2022 games were by far some of the most epic in WC history!

This just in...France to invade the Falkland Islands...
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 21, 2022, 01:11:38 AM
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maybe this will be the start of an epic France-Argentine rivalry....The 2018 and 2022 games were by far some of the most epic in WC history!
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This just in...France to invade the Falkland Islands...

haha.....well it would be tempting to send the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier to Martinez'doorstep.....just to teach him a lesson about mocking kyky....

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/20/21/65788515-11559613-image-a-22_1671570870931.jpg)

in other news, my oldest son has now started to say it's all rigged, and Fifa wanted Messi to lift the cup....I'm trying to get conspiracy theories out of his head!


Finally....my wife showed me this image on twitter and I feel like hammering the point home.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkZrokiaMAAWsUn?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 21, 2022, 02:59:39 AM
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maybe this will be the start of an epic France-Argentine rivalry....The 2018 and 2022 games were by far some of the most epic in WC history!
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This just in...France to invade the Falkland Islands...
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haha.....well it would be tempting to send the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier to Martinez'doorstep.....just to teach him a lesson about mocking kyky....

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/20/21/65788515-11559613-image-a-22_1671570870931.jpg)

in other news, my oldest son has now started to say it's all rigged, and Fifa wanted Messi to lift the cup....I'm trying to get conspiracy theories out of his head!


Finally....my wife showed me this image on twitter and I feel like hammering the point home.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkZrokiaMAAWsUn?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Is there one of those for Moroccos team? 
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 21, 2022, 03:24:45 AM
Is there one of those for Moroccos team?

haven't seen it! But I have no problem with guys who have dual citizenship choosing the country they want to play for.
BTW walid regragui, the moroccan coach, grew up right next to my hometown! Essonne represent haha....

The only case that bugs me is Aymeric Laporte, who plays for Spain even though he's French and has no ties at all there (except his club). Spain just gave him citizenship, as Deschamps did not pick him for the squad. And this is the guy who was captain of the French under 19 team!

Edit: ok Laporte had one basque grandparent....still, apart from picking him for the national squad, Spain had no reason to give him citizenhip.
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: goeatsomefriedbread on December 21, 2022, 10:02:58 AM
So many amazing moments in that world cup, my favourite was prob Messi reverse pass against Holland, amazing
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 21, 2022, 10:24:47 AM
I can't get over the crazy match we have in the final .. ! I'm disgusted for France that it lost after fighting so hard.. but on the one hand, I can't be sad that it lost, for me they won in the hearts of the French a doing a crazy feat !! And they have a much better mentality and esteem than the Argentinians.. Martinez disgusts me HUGELY !!! An awful mentality in the world of football  >:(

In short, crazy match, I had tears in my eyes at Mbappe's second goal.. I screamed like never before  :-* :D

It would have been crazy for Kolo muani to score at the very last second..
Title: Re: World Cup 2022
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on December 22, 2022, 05:39:35 AM
I can't get over the crazy match we have in the final .. ! I'm disgusted for France that it lost after fighting so hard.. but on the one hand, I can't be sad that it lost, for me they won in the hearts of the French a doing a crazy feat !! And they have a much better mentality and esteem than the Argentinians.. Martinez disgusts me HUGELY !!! An awful mentality in the world of football  >:(

In short, crazy match, I had tears in my eyes at Mbappe's second goal.. I screamed like never before  :-* :D

It would have been crazy for Kolo muani to score at the very last second..

ouais je comprends....moi aussi j'ai du mal à m'en remettre !! et je crois bien avoir versé une petite larmiche aussi au moment de l'égalisation. Mais bon faut se dire que pendant 70 minutes, on a pas existé. C'est déjà bien d'être revenus et de les avoir fait douter.
Et puis, on a déjà de la chance de voir notre pays 2 fois en finale de suite ! Y'a plein d'équipes/supporters qui vivront jamais UNE finale. En plus, l'avenir s'annonce pas mal vu les petits jeunes qui arrivent !


(dudes pardon us for this French moment  ;D   )