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Title: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Murray Hewitt on November 21, 2022, 01:06:54 PM
 https://www.instagram.com/p/ClOwx4zJ-GP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/ClOwx4zJ-GP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

Personally love to see it. Heartwarming to have BA back at Crail.
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Post by: RichardBarkley on November 21, 2022, 01:13:36 PM
Unreal
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Post by: dannyprovolone on November 21, 2022, 01:14:34 PM
why
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Post by: urbneathme on November 21, 2022, 01:15:29 PM
it's wild that they're faking the funk on this "reunion" with like 3 dudes from the original team in the mix. always nice to see frank, though.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: HaveFunSkateboarding on November 21, 2022, 01:35:38 PM
The last couple of years they’d make some fourstar gear here and there. I bought a hat about two years ago from Crail (the screen printing peeled off lol). I’m pretty sure this is just for a collab with Huf, unless they use this as a springboard to officially relaunch the brand with a team, etc.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 21, 2022, 01:53:17 PM
Yes basically, which isn't too surprising since Crail redid Royal.

https://oscdist.com/catalog/LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1044369796491386900/Screenshot_2022-11-21_at_13-51-41_LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1044369796118085713/Screenshot_2022-11-21_at_13-51-50_LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf.png)
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Post by: GAY on November 21, 2022, 01:55:16 PM
That photo of BA and Carroll is the sweetest dreamiest thing possible EVR and I'm screaming rn.
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Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 21, 2022, 02:08:03 PM
Just seems so washed
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Post by: sometimeperhaps on November 21, 2022, 02:40:41 PM
For a time they had the best tour videos.
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Post by: twic3 on November 21, 2022, 02:46:17 PM
we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.
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Post by: Rune Spliffberg on November 21, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Wowee this is even better than the eS reboot!
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Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 21, 2022, 03:15:27 PM
we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.

Hahaaaaa. Was just going to say this was my favorite brand back in the day, and would rock a crew neck sweater. Logo is timeless.
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Post by: Lou Strux on November 21, 2022, 03:22:51 PM
Oh god in heaven above, please make Deluxe bring back Forties.
I want Frank to have ALL of the paychecks.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Candied cigarettes on November 21, 2022, 03:27:30 PM
Wowee this is even better than the eS reboot!

Whoa this could be bad but comparing it to the eS reboot is just unfair
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: BurgerCop on November 21, 2022, 03:27:56 PM
we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.

Yes. We definitely need to go full Logan's Run on the industry.
Oh...sorry, hope that reference too dated for you? 
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on November 21, 2022, 03:29:32 PM
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Hahaaaaa. Was just going to say this was my favorite brand back in the day, and would rock a crew neck sweater. Logo is timeless.

One of the industry few worthy of being tattooed on ya.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: doublesteveburger on November 21, 2022, 04:13:39 PM
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we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.
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Yes. We definitely need to go full Logan's Run on the industry.
Oh...sorry, hope that reference too dated for you?


oh SNAP!
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: elbarto on November 21, 2022, 04:20:05 PM
If it’s actually back I’m honestly stoked as fuck. I loved Fourstar when I was younger and as others have said that logo is timeless. I rarely ever wear skate logo gear anymore but I’d rock Fourstar in a heartbeat. No shame lol.
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Post by: Stu Pickles on November 21, 2022, 04:22:05 PM
CK1 footage  ;D
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Post by: Spaced Cadet on November 21, 2022, 04:32:56 PM
Yeah pretty sure this is a one time fourstar line put out through huf. Not much reason to bring fourstar back now.
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Post by: ok boomer on November 21, 2022, 05:35:35 PM
Oh god in heaven above, please make Deluxe bring back Forties.
I want Frank to have ALL of the paychecks.

The relaunch we need
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: too fakie on November 21, 2022, 06:05:05 PM
If it’s actually back I’m honestly stoked as fuck. I loved Fourstar when I was younger and as others have said that logo is timeless. I rarely ever wear skate logo gear anymore but I’d rock Fourstar in a heartbeat. No shame lol.

I feel the same way. I actually think the brand could make some pretty cool stuff within the current landscape. They peaked in popularity during a bad era for skate fashion in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Dooky-shoes on November 21, 2022, 06:18:33 PM
I bought a SS button up a few weeks ago from the local. The thought it might’ve been deadstock was a bonus.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Vds on November 21, 2022, 06:23:07 PM
My favorite clothing company.
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Post by: rocklobster on November 21, 2022, 06:48:14 PM
I bought a SS button up a few weeks ago from the local. The thought it might’ve been deadstock was a bonus.

Online retailer TGM has load of deadstock on Fourstar, some good deals on pants and shirts but limited sizes (S, 28-30).

Picked up a Super Champion Funzone t-shirt a few years ago, that's my favorite find from that website so far.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Paco Supreme on November 21, 2022, 07:07:38 PM
I back it, I had a four star x 4q jacket on yesterday, from when they “folded”
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 07:13:27 PM
I get the nostalgia, but has everyone forgotten the incredibly poor quality of all the clothes they made?
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Post by: Sila on November 21, 2022, 07:21:58 PM
Yeah the clothes were awful quality. I dunno why people are excited to buy and wear more landfill clothing that doesn't need to be made.
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Post by: Koozin on November 21, 2022, 07:30:31 PM
Nissan altamont reboot next
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Fongstarr. on November 21, 2022, 08:20:45 PM
Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Post by: R$S_ONE on November 21, 2022, 08:51:26 PM
Whole reboot is worth it just for that one BA kickflip in the ig clip
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 08:54:56 PM
Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?

Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: KBizzle on November 21, 2022, 09:06:06 PM
Super Champion Funzone is a classic.  Hyped even if they are bringing this back for a short time.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: rocklobster on November 21, 2022, 09:17:12 PM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders

Source? I'd love to read more about this, real dick move by Crail to do that to Koston and Guy
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: shouldn't on November 21, 2022, 09:22:14 PM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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Source? I'd love to read more about this, real dick move by Crail to do that to Koston and Guy
i remember reading this as well when they left. i also would like to know. i’m a fan of fourstar & i hope it does come back. big fan of keith hufnagel but, i am a bigger fan of fourstar than i am of the brand huf.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mean salto on November 21, 2022, 09:34:36 PM
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we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.
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Yes. We definitely need to go full Logan's Run on the industry.
Oh...sorry, hope that reference too dated for you?
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oh SNAP!
For some reason my tape would go weird when logan was being chased out the city and when they met box not sure why...

I think a good amount of fourstar videos are on Craig's YouTube but if they could make a dedicated fourstar account with all vids that would be pretty nice
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2022, 09:38:25 PM
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we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.
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Yes. We definitely need to go full Logan's Run on the industry.
Oh...sorry, hope that reference too dated for you?
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oh SNAP!
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For some reason my tape would go weird when logan was being chased out the city and when they met box not sure why...

I think a good amount of fourstar videos are on Craig's YouTube but if they could make a dedicated fourstar account with all vids that would be pretty nice


Right, do people want fourstar back or just that early 00s era of the team?

Modern day 4star is going to be fucking Manchild and whatever other lakai ams who haven’t landed an apparel contract with their superior shoe sponsors or volcom (Simon).    If CK gets on them, great, but he was a Ruca/Eswic/ruca guy
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: DCLOVE on November 21, 2022, 10:55:35 PM
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Hahaaaaa. Was just going to say this was my favorite brand back in the day, and would rock a crew neck sweater. Logo is timeless.

I had some Malto pants that were great. I think if half the team didn’t end up on Nike apparel after they’d be back . Those tour videos towards the end were amazing
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: greenbeans on November 21, 2022, 10:56:20 PM
If it’s actually back I’m honestly stoked as fuck. I loved Fourstar when I was younger and as others have said that logo is timeless. I rarely ever wear skate logo gear anymore but I’d rock Fourstar in a heartbeat. No shame lol.

Either simple logos or i enjoy making my own shirt designs
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Grrrreencans on November 21, 2022, 11:14:15 PM
Completely forgot Julian Davis was on fourstar


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Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: dannyprovolone on November 21, 2022, 11:35:10 PM
Completely forgot Julian Davis was on fourstar

the guy from korn?
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Post by: Grrrreencans on November 21, 2022, 11:50:53 PM
The dude who back tailed El Torro
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: rukes on November 22, 2022, 01:24:03 AM
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Hahaaaaa. Was just going to say this was my favorite brand back in the day, and would rock a crew neck sweater. Logo is timeless.

I still got a red 4star crew neck sweater that I wear often.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: ok boomer on November 22, 2022, 05:32:16 AM
based on Mike Carroll style alone, I really wanted to get the baggy cargos they made back in the day.
When I got them, the pants split at the crotch the first 5 minutes.
Also had a long sleeve button up... separate at the sleeve within 2 wearings... was not impressed on the quality at all
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Sold Out on November 22, 2022, 10:05:07 AM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders

From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Stevezahn on November 22, 2022, 10:14:12 AM
Ck1 was on 4 star during his vest/jambox phase.  He had an intro clip with a voice over of Koston complaining how annoying he is.  Funny skit, back when crailtap was great
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Stevezahn on November 22, 2022, 10:17:32 AM
https://youtu.be/d2QMqePUk4o
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mean salto on November 22, 2022, 10:47:13 AM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
They also left girl at the same time tho. Guy also left royal which was his with Rudy. Seems weird that if everything was all good even if they left fourstar they'd also cut all ties with the other companies. It was 2015 and guy and Koston weren't even at sls etc anymore and ishod could prob wear a Nike shirt and nobody would worry what pants they had on anyway
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: j....soy..... on November 22, 2022, 12:29:34 PM
I think it was all handshake deals which work when you get monthly royalty checks, but don’t work well when it comes to cashing out on ownership….a) you actually don’t own it b) you own it, but it’s not worth anything.  See Chris Cole and Zero….
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 22, 2022, 01:16:23 PM
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we need to stop the 40 year olds in the industry from bringing back brands that peaked in the 2000s.
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Hahaaaaa. Was just going to say this was my favorite brand back in the day, and would rock a crew neck sweater. Logo is timeless.
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I still got a red 4star crew neck sweater that I wear often.

Jealous! I check ebay every once in awhile to see if ones up in good condition.

The line they released was a disappointment, thinking about the anorak jacket though. That T-shirt is about as bad as it gets, just give me a box logo!
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Post by: SatanicPanic on November 22, 2022, 01:22:22 PM
why
What four
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Post by: Jewel Runner on November 22, 2022, 01:23:31 PM
YESSS CORYYYYY
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Post by: Fongstarr. on November 22, 2022, 01:28:57 PM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
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I remember that. I thought it was more so the ownership stuff. Like they had to be bought out or something even if they weren't on the team. Don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 22, 2022, 02:06:08 PM
These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on November 22, 2022, 02:22:52 PM
I mostly had 4* tees which screens crack and fade like any other shirt, I had the best pitate logo zip up hoodie but my ex put it in the dry, shrank to hers, one pair of jeans that had an odd fit but didn't crotch rip
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2022, 05:41:28 PM
These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?

I had long sleeve button ups whose arm lengths were ridiculously shorter than anyones arms should be
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Pete on November 22, 2022, 06:59:12 PM
that shit was dead before reynolds quit. one good season of good quality, likely bc it was made by XLarge.
always had cool videos and shit but the quality was hideous.

anything post a huf collab:no

honestly coolest thing about fourstar was probably max schaff.




freemax b
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: ninformatic on November 22, 2022, 07:02:49 PM
Yes basically, which isn't too surprising since Crail redid Royal.

https://oscdist.com/catalog/LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1044369796491386900/Screenshot_2022-11-21_at_13-51-41_LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1044369796118085713/Screenshot_2022-11-21_at_13-51-50_LAKAI-Q1-2023.pdf.png)

the green telford low is kinda fire
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: elbarto on November 22, 2022, 07:46:52 PM
These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?

Idk if I got lucky or what. Everything I had from Fourstar when I was actually hucking and slamming a lot outlasted almost everything else except Volcom. I still have a longsleeve with the pirate logo and a pair of jeans that have outlasted 3 pairs of Carhartts. My longest lasting favorite shirt was also Fourstar now that I think about it but I lost it after about 8 years of use.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: versacekid420 on November 22, 2022, 08:10:35 PM
Anyone remember that four star gonz vision graphic shirt they made
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: rocklobster on November 22, 2022, 11:15:44 PM
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These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?
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Idk if I got lucky or what. Everything I had from Fourstar when I was actually hucking and slamming a lot outlasted almost everything else except Volcom. I still have a longsleeve with the pirate logo and a pair of jeans that have outlasted 3 pairs of Carhartts. My longest lasting favorite shirt was also Fourstar now that I think about it but I lost it after about 8 years of use.

I regularly wear the Malto pants and button ups for work and skate, zero complaints.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: urbneathme on November 23, 2022, 01:41:36 AM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.

definitely not. tom gavin wouldn’t have cried in koston’s epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on November 23, 2022, 02:03:35 AM
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Completely forgot Julian Davis was on fourstar
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the guy from korn?

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Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: metsuri on November 23, 2022, 02:11:27 AM
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These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?
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Idk if I got lucky or what. Everything I had from Fourstar when I was actually hucking and slamming a lot outlasted almost everything else except Volcom. I still have a longsleeve with the pirate logo and a pair of jeans that have outlasted 3 pairs of Carhartts. My longest lasting favorite shirt was also Fourstar now that I think about it but I lost it after about 8 years of use.

I have similar experiences. I still have a black BA signature t-shirt from like 10 years ago with dozens and dozens of washes, still soft and very wearable. I also have a CK fleece hoody from like 5 years back which is kinda ugly but I love it, so comfy, my favorite hoody.

And the real pearl: street pirate knitted sweater from at least 15 years ago. Still break it out for christmas dinners etc.

I definitely agree that the world doesn't need any more shit quality clothing but if the quality is there, re-launching Four Star doesn't seem like the worst idea in this era of fashion. Sure it's mostly for 40 year olds nostalgia trippers but there are plenty of us.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 23, 2022, 02:28:49 AM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
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definitely not. tom gavin wouldn’t have cried in koston’s epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had

Well something shady was going on at Podium which precipitated Koston leaving Lakai.   I think that was established in that EL

The impression I got when he and Guy left Crail was that when the venture capital firm that came in and bought a piece of Crail, some fishy paperwork was shuffled around that took ownership of Fourstar away from Guy and Eric (and maybe the Royal founders - guy and Rudy?). 

Whether this is just Slap apocrypha or not, it’s hard to say.   Skateboarding doesn’t really have a paper of record for me to cite sources.   
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Shifty Flip on November 23, 2022, 05:52:28 AM
Thanks again to whoever was dropping tons of 4* samples at the Buffalo Exchange on Broadway in Denver 10+ years ago.  Kept my broke self semi fresh
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Idk on November 23, 2022, 06:23:27 AM
I just think it’s really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I can’t imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Pastasash on November 23, 2022, 06:30:48 AM
Ive been a big fan and wearing Fourstar since like 2009ish. Never had any complaints about their quality other than a few of their basic cotton tees that shrunk to a M from a L. Lot of their stuff I still wear that I wore bunch in HS that's holding up well.

A Trip Called Mapquest was my favorite back in the day, watched that constantly on my ipod touch.

Love this collab, might need everything minus the tshirt haha
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: GuessAgain? on November 23, 2022, 06:37:45 AM
“One paper thin, skull and cross-crusierboard logo tshirt please!”

Maybe kids will like it like I did in 2008, but I definitely couldn’t be seen dead in that now haha. Lookin like I just strolled out of my 6 year old nephew’s arts & crafts screen printing birthday party where someone dressed as Jack Sparrow helped them make tshirts designs on primark blanks.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mitch Brenner on November 23, 2022, 09:00:09 AM
Anyone remember that four star gonz vision graphic shirt they made

When I was younger I was psyched on it. Looking back weird to just rock a shirt with a strangers face. I think they ended up rereleasing it with CK1's face on it. 
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mitch Brenner on November 23, 2022, 09:02:42 AM
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Wasn’t Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah that’s what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
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definitely not. tom gavin wouldn’t have cried in koston’s epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had
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Well something shady was going on at Podium which precipitated Koston leaving Lakai.   I think that was established in that EL

The impression I got when he and Guy left Crail was that when the venture capital firm that came in and bought a piece of Crail, some fishy paperwork was shuffled around that took ownership of Fourstar away from Guy and Eric (and maybe the Royal founders - guy and Rudy?). 

Whether this is just Slap apocrypha or not, it’s hard to say.   Skateboarding doesn’t really have a paper of record for me to cite sources.

That's what I remember reading somewhere is when the firm bought it they had access to the accounting books. Someone on the firm side noticed that Koston and Guy we're not getting the cut they were owed and only a percentage. I don't think Rick and Mike were necessarily stealing it for themselves but reinvesting it into Crail to keep it afloat. Memories fuzzy.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: KBizzle on November 23, 2022, 11:35:28 AM
I just think it’s really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I can’t imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.

"Best friends" or close friends stop speaking regularly in real life. Can't be any different because these guys are skate bros. / legends. Money and business ruin friendships routinely.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Francis Xavier on November 23, 2022, 12:47:38 PM
I just think it’s really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I can’t imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.
Lets be real, Guy is the only one of the four out in the streets.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: HORSES on November 23, 2022, 02:30:09 PM
From Koston's Chromeball -

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So why leave Girl in 2016? When did you ultimately make the decision and how did you go about doing so?

(laughs) Well, there was point where I made it very clear that I was thinking about leaving but would be willing to stay if certain things were addressed and taken care of. I honestly can’t get into everything but I will say that the acquisition of everything represented a huge question mark for me personally because I did not get a lot of information about things before or after. So as a partial owner, that was concerning to me.

Simply put, I just didn’t want to go along with it. But it happened anyway and I wasn’t happy with the way it all unfolded. I never wanted to go start a company at age 40. That was never in the plans. For the longest time, I never thought that I would ever leave Girl but things changed.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: pugmaster on November 23, 2022, 04:58:43 PM
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 23, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)

Who's buying the hobbit fedora?
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: gsosa on November 23, 2022, 06:33:40 PM
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)
How reliable is this site? asking for a friend
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: rocklobster on November 23, 2022, 06:51:21 PM
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)
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How reliable is this site? asking for a friend

Very reliable for the most part, ordered Fourstar products a few times and all item were in great condition and in stock. Only 1 Harsh Euro Barge t-shirt was out of stock, would have been cool to snag that piece of memorabilia
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: gsosa on November 23, 2022, 07:01:09 PM
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)
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Very reliable for the most part, ordered Fourstar products a few times and all item were in great condition and in stock. Only 1 Harsh Euro Barge t-shirt was out of stock, would have been cool to snag that piece of memorabilia

Thanks! Ordered a Beanie!

Personally I love Fourstar. ALL of their videos are filled with insane skating and good vibes. The products look dope as fuck and have not failed me quality wise. I even bought a jacket twice because I lost it and loved it so much. Stoked on the comeback.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 23, 2022, 07:09:24 PM
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1 (https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1)
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How reliable is this site? asking for a friend

I've bought plenty of hard goods from TGM without any issues. Others on here have had negative experiences though (warped/blemished decks IIRC). I'm assuming if it's soft goods it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Bucketguy on November 23, 2022, 07:18:42 PM
I’ve had a fourstar lined coaches jacket for years, it’s pretty fucked up now but I still wear it to work regularly
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Vds on November 24, 2022, 07:04:14 PM

How reliable is this site? asking for a friend


I ordered a set of trucks  like 3 years ago, they are pretty good.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: DarkPools on November 25, 2022, 12:35:48 AM
Honestly, I don't know if I was a one-off, as well, but 4Star apparel was always quality to me. I had t shirts, hats, and recently a dead stock beanie (TGM buy. Jan. 2021) from who knows when, and a button up since I was a fan back in 2006.  Never saw any issues with these. Maybe their pants were bad but everything else was standard fare?

I'd love to see them back and blend the youthful vigor of what made them dope but also be subtle for the adults who grew up with it.

I hope this one-off collaboration is a springboard for 4Star
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: CrappyChan on November 25, 2022, 10:24:34 AM
Yeah I hope 4star comes back strong. I had Max Schaff pants and they were the best but did end up ripping after a few years of heavy use. Superchampionfunzone is my fave
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: ToySanta on November 25, 2022, 05:02:48 PM
Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 25, 2022, 05:53:31 PM
Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)

God damn, what a team.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: rocklobster on November 25, 2022, 08:37:30 PM
That Reynolds sequence could have been an Independent ad with that massive sticker.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Trilogy on November 26, 2022, 02:57:36 AM
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Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)
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God damn, what a team.

So GOOD!!!!!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmQcrC5x_T4/UWIMf7v_9oI/AAAAAAAAZW8/XnfXqSHoVlY/s1600/guysstrechrome2.jpg)

The team and ads of pre-2002 Four Star were so good it hurts!!!!

But wasn't Four Star the Mariano & Koston's Crailtap clothing brand?? If that being truth how can 4 Star come back???
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: wheelchair skitch on November 26, 2022, 09:00:55 AM
manchild is a wet blanket on any skate video he is in... just cant stand him.

at what age does it become embarrassing to go by a nickname for marketing purposes?
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 26, 2022, 09:18:13 AM
manchild is a wet blanket on any skate video he is in... just cant stand him.

at what age does it become embarrassing to go by a nickname for marketing purposes?

Beagle is still living that life.   
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mean salto on November 26, 2022, 09:26:43 AM
manchild is a wet blanket on any skate video he is in... just cant stand him.

at what age does it become embarrassing to go by a nickname for marketing purposes?
Any age. If it's an easier version of someone's name like ave, gonz, ba, dilo, Supa, tx, Toya, huf then yeah sure go for it. Can't think of someone with a random nickname that's not lame. Maybe bam (who as a person is lame but as a name is passable)
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Pete on November 26, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
theyve been trying to make manchild a thing for what like 10 years now? dude went pro too early and got way too into being drunk at spots and being the silly guy rather than doing tricks. i guess its working idk.

i wonder if BA will stop repping supreme even though i cant remember his last fat bill clip appearance since that old footage at FDR in the nike hockey jersey. im sure supreme gives him free shit but is he ever actually been "on" or has it always been a AO situation. he has repped them pretty hard the last decade, wonder if he said fuck em, or if he can just keep doing whatever he wants which is hopefully the answer.


free max b
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: j....soy..... on November 26, 2022, 12:53:07 PM
I’d like to see some progression like Manateen would be decent and eventually work his way up to Mandad….
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: ToySanta on November 27, 2022, 09:30:25 PM
That Reynolds sequence could have been an Independent ad with that massive sticker.

Indy should’ve double dipped!
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Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)
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God damn, what a team.
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So GOOD!!!!!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmQcrC5x_T4/UWIMf7v_9oI/AAAAAAAAZW8/XnfXqSHoVlY/s1600/guysstrechrome2.jpg)

The team and ads of pre-2002 Four Star were so good it hurts!!!!

But wasn't Four Star the Mariano & Koston's Crailtap clothing brand?? If that being truth how can 4 Star come back???


Maaaaaannnnn, I almost went with the Mariano sequence. Love everything about that ad. I miss long hair, baggy clothes Mariano. So good.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: ToySanta on November 27, 2022, 09:52:53 PM
theyve been trying to make manchild a thing for what like 10 years now? dude went pro too early and got way too into being drunk at spots and being the silly guy rather than doing tricks. i guess its working idk.

He got called out for his drunkenness last year at Tampa and since then seemed to go into hiding. I see Crail hasn’t been putting him as front and center lately.


If they’re just gonna put on Crail guys / guys who can’t get other sponsors, then what is the point? Fourstar was the shit for a long time, but for reasons addressed in this thread already, I think one-offs are the way to go.

Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: able on November 27, 2022, 10:16:17 PM
Anyone remember that four star gonz vision graphic shirt they made
I bought it. It was a large but it was “slim fit” which I thought was weird since most of the People buying it would be chubby and over 30. I ended up giving it to this kid who wore it at this contest.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcbSI9HOw0q/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ=
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mean salto on November 27, 2022, 11:18:22 PM
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theyve been trying to make manchild a thing for what like 10 years now? dude went pro too early and got way too into being drunk at spots and being the silly guy rather than doing tricks. i guess its working idk.
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He got called out for his drunkenness last year at Tampa and since then seemed to go into hiding. I see Crail hasn’t been putting him as front and center lately.


If they’re just gonna put on Crail guys / guys who can’t get other sponsors, then what is the point? Fourstar was the shit for a long time, but for reasons addressed in this thread already, I think one-offs are the way to go.
I think he's gotten called out every year but the actual "incident" was at least pre pandemic. Also unless I missed something no one's restarting fourstar it's just one little collection HUF is doing. That said I'd agree restarting 4 star is kind of pointless. Crail could just start a whole new clothing company with a bit of homage to og 4star but without having to be tethered to the past.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 27, 2022, 11:28:16 PM
theyve been trying to make manchild a thing for what like 10 years now? dude went pro too early and got way too into being drunk at spots and being the silly guy rather than doing tricks. i guess its working idk.

i wonder if BA will stop repping supreme even though i cant remember his last fat bill clip appearance since that old footage at FDR in the nike hockey jersey. im sure supreme gives him free shit but is he ever actually been "on" or has it always been a AO situation. he has repped them pretty hard the last decade, wonder if he said fuck em, or if he can just keep doing whatever he wants which is hopefully the answer.


free max b

Doesn't help that he shares the nickname with one of the lamest Canadian rappers to ever exist. I can't imagine he is famous or relevant enough to actually have any effect... but still.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 28, 2022, 01:05:12 AM
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theyve been trying to make manchild a thing for what like 10 years now? dude went pro too early and got way too into being drunk at spots and being the silly guy rather than doing tricks. i guess its working idk.
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He got called out for his drunkenness last year at Tampa and since then seemed to go into hiding. I see Crail hasn’t been putting him as front and center lately.


If they’re just gonna put on Crail guys / guys who can’t get other sponsors, then what is the point? Fourstar was the shit for a long time, but for reasons addressed in this thread already, I think one-offs are the way to go.
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I think he's gotten called out every year but the actual "incident" was at least pre pandemic. Also unless I missed something no one's restarting fourstar it's just one little collection HUF is doing. That said I'd agree restarting 4 star is kind of pointless. Crail could just start a whole new clothing company with a bit of homage to og 4star but without having to be tethered to the past.

This is Crail tap.  “Tethered to the past” is kinda their whole deal
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Trilogy on November 28, 2022, 03:27:35 AM
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That Reynolds sequence could have been an Independent ad with that massive sticker.
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Indy should’ve double dipped!
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Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)
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God damn, what a team.
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So GOOD!!!!!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmQcrC5x_T4/UWIMf7v_9oI/AAAAAAAAZW8/XnfXqSHoVlY/s1600/guysstrechrome2.jpg)

The team and ads of pre-2002 Four Star were so good it hurts!!!!

But wasn't Four Star the Mariano & Koston's Crailtap clothing brand?? If that being truth how can 4 Star come back???

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Maaaaaannnnn, I almost went with the Mariano sequence. Love everything about that ad. I miss long hair, baggy clothes Mariano. So good.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sbb7F6QhYnw/UWIMNXKskuI/AAAAAAAAZUs/cFL87mpV46E/s1600/MCssbsflipchrome.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v7OQBzl9lN0/UWIMpH9kWaI/AAAAAAAAZXk/RzyknbNEglE/s1600/kostonnnosebluntchrome.jpg)

just 2 more ads.

I really loved this company prior to the  around 2003/2004 skull logo.

I had a few items from this brand and I always wore them with pride!
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: veritas on November 28, 2022, 07:53:51 AM
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That Reynolds sequence could have been an Independent ad with that massive sticker.
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Indy should’ve double dipped!
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Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i-KFAQT9Xpw/UWIMgGvP3lI/AAAAAAAAZXA/wPZ5e21MCLE/s1600/keenanfourgapchrome2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8UAtXaZLI0A/UWIMObi2CYI/AAAAAAAAZU8/RNPleHcBOow/s1600/boss180nkchrome2.jpg)
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God damn, what a team.
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So GOOD!!!!!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WmQcrC5x_T4/UWIMf7v_9oI/AAAAAAAAZW8/XnfXqSHoVlY/s1600/guysstrechrome2.jpg)

The team and ads of pre-2002 Four Star were so good it hurts!!!!

But wasn't Four Star the Mariano & Koston's Crailtap clothing brand?? If that being truth how can 4 Star come back???

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Maaaaaannnnn, I almost went with the Mariano sequence. Love everything about that ad. I miss long hair, baggy clothes Mariano. So good.
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(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sbb7F6QhYnw/UWIMNXKskuI/AAAAAAAAZUs/cFL87mpV46E/s1600/MCssbsflipchrome.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v7OQBzl9lN0/UWIMpH9kWaI/AAAAAAAAZXk/RzyknbNEglE/s1600/kostonnnosebluntchrome.jpg)

just 2 more ads.

I really loved this company prior to the  around 2003/2004 skull logo.

I had a few items from this brand and I always wore them with pride!

You hit the nail on the head, it was that “street pirate” logo they ran with for like 12 years too long that made them from a serious brand into something zoomies tier (image wise)
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Dark Knight on November 28, 2022, 11:01:45 AM
Could never wear the pants, I’m too tall.  But I was rocking with fourstar heavy back when they started and Reynolds was on them.
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Mean salto on November 28, 2022, 11:09:35 AM
Could never wear the pants, I’m too tall.  But I was rocking with fourstar heavy back when they started and Reynolds was on them.
Didn't you pay attention to Reynolds at the time? You were supposed to wear the pants 8 inches below your ass
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: Dark Knight on November 28, 2022, 11:38:26 AM
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Could never wear the pants, I’m too tall.  But I was rocking with fourstar heavy back when they started and Reynolds was on them.
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Didn't you pay attention to Reynolds at the time? You were supposed to wear the pants 8 inches below your ass

I’m taller than Reynolds and BA, and I sagged hard in the World days.  Had to change my ways haha
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: whale on November 28, 2022, 11:44:14 AM
Is there footage of that Carroll switch bs flip?
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: BallDontLie on November 28, 2022, 11:48:13 AM
Is there footage of that Carroll switch bs flip?

1:13
https://youtu.be/A1rlgh33GYk
Title: Re: Fourstar is back?
Post by: whale on November 28, 2022, 12:02:13 PM
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Is there footage of that Carroll switch bs flip?
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1:13
https://youtu.be/A1rlgh33GYk
Thank you!