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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: LocalShrink on November 25, 2022, 10:01:52 AM
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Yo idk why but i just wanted to say that Dickies is way better than Carhartt. Dickies has better pricing, better fit and better everything. They have all flavors for all types of skater: they have the FLEX they have the reg fit and the Loose fit and they all way better than Carhartt. If you are on a budget buy Dickies and even when you are not on a budget buy Dickies they are way better.
!!!SKATE DICKIES!
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Dickies sales so bad that they resorted to Slap burner shill accounts
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I actually have to work in my work pants and i'd choose carhartt over dickies any day regardless of price.
Dickies are like 65% polyester while most carhartt are 100% cotton, at least the ones i buy. Carhartt get softer with age while dickies just get gross and scratchy because of the polyester degrading. Also it is way harder to get dried concrete off dickies than carhartt. Dickies heavy duty pocket shirts are nice though and durable (also 100% cotton).
Fuck wearing plastic clothes.
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I actually have to work in my work pants and i'd choose carhartt over dickies any day regardless of price.
Dickies are like 65% polyester while most carhartt are 100% cotton, at least the ones i buy. Carhartt get softer with age while dickies just get gross and scratchy because of the polyester degrading. Also it is way harder to get dried concrete off dickies than carhartt. Dickies heavy duty pocket shirts are nice though and durable (also 100% cotton).
Fuck wearing plastic clothes.
I also have to work in my work pants. And you’re response has me second guessing my decisions. I always got dickies cause they are cheap and I can get them anywhere and I can skate in them too but the 100% cotton and no plastic clothes really hit a nerve with me and will now be looking into carhartt for my next work pants choice. I already buy carhartt vests and beanies. when you are actually in the cold carhartt beanies keep your head warm and the carhartt vest I have is lighter and warmer than the dickies one I have been running the last 3 or so years
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I actually have to work in my work pants and i'd choose carhartt over dickies any day regardless of price.
Dickies are like 65% polyester while most carhartt are 100% cotton, at least the ones i buy. Carhartt get softer with age while dickies just get gross and scratchy because of the polyester degrading. Also it is way harder to get dried concrete off dickies than carhartt. Dickies heavy duty pocket shirts are nice though and durable (also 100% cotton).
Fuck wearing plastic clothes.
I also have to work in my work pants. And you’re response has me second guessing my decisions. I always got dickies cause they are cheap and I can get them anywhere and I can skate in them too but the 100% cotton and no plastic clothes really hit a nerve with me and will now be looking into carhartt for my next work pants choice. I already buy carhartt vests and beanies. when you are actually in the cold carhartt beanies keep your head warm and the carhartt vest I have is lighter and warmer than the dickies one I have been running the last 3 or so years
Yeah, I just think about how every time you put your dickies (or any other polyester clothes) through the wash they shed millions of plastic fibres which then eventually get washed out to sea or some other water system. The amount of plastic used in our society is insane and I think when people think of plastic they think of plastic bags and straws but they don't think of the clothes they are wearing which are just as bad. The more you think about the plastic issue the more you realise how bad it truly is. We're lucky that most skate brand t shirts are 100% cotton.
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I’m a big fan of moisturizing and I hate when my skin feels dry and disgusting and I feel like Dickies are just perpetually shredding off my skin, especially in the fall and winter months with the sandpaper-like polyester. Carhartt stuff is 100% worth the marginal price difference and is much better quality IMO.
I also have to work in my workpants and actually don’t wear either brand, but I 100% back Carhartt products in my daily life. The one Carhartt sweatshirt that I have that was $39.99 is indestructible and warm enough to skate in teens and 20s weather.
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I’m a big fan of moisturizing and I hate when my skin feels dry and disgusting and I feel like Dickies are just perpetually shredding off my skin, especially in the fall and winter months with the sandpaper-like polyester. Carhartt stuff is 100% worth the marginal price difference and is much better quality IMO.
I also have to work in my workpants and actually don’t wear either brand, but I 100% back Carhartt products in my daily life. The one Carhartt sweatshirt that I have that was $39.99 is indestructible and warm enough to skate in teens and 20s weather.
What brand do you wear for work instead of dickies/carhartt?
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I’m a big fan of moisturizing and I hate when my skin feels dry and disgusting and I feel like Dickies are just perpetually shredding off my skin, especially in the fall and winter months with the sandpaper-like polyester. Carhartt stuff is 100% worth the marginal price difference and is much better quality IMO.
I also have to work in my workpants and actually don’t wear either brand, but I 100% back Carhartt products in my daily life. The one Carhartt sweatshirt that I have that was $39.99 is indestructible and warm enough to skate in teens and 20s weather.
What brand do you wear for work instead of dickies/carhartt?
I work in the emergency services field and they hook us up with a bunch of plain blue Elbeco pants. They’re kinda stiff at first but pretty comfortable once they break in. I’ve skated in them before - kind of give off some Ed Templeton “Welcome to Hell” vibes.
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I do think dickies fit better i prefer to skate dickies
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Carhart feel better to me, as for style i like them both equally and the prices... man, i never buy new expensive softgoods, but always find some cheap second hand deals at the thriftstore.
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I religiously wear the 874’s. What would be a Carhartt alternative similar?
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.....nah
Dickies < Carhartt
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Carhartt quality is gooder
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I religiously wear the 874’s. Wheat would be a Carhartt alternative similar?
nvm just ordered 4 pairs for $100 from dickies
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At least Dickies doesn’t have that wannabe hypebeast workwear line that Carhartt has.
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Duluth Trading has been the choice for me. They have really good heavy duty work pants and more casual or office-appropriate work pants, which is a perfect mix my my work. They also skate great with zero restriction.
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Tough Duck is the best
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At least Dickies doesn’t have that wannabe hypebeast workwear line that Carhartt has.
dickies makes stuff exclusive for urban outfitters, has had multiple supreme collabs and is owned by vf corp (parent company of supreme, vans, north face etc).
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Dickies sales so bad that they resorted to Slap burner shill accounts
Carhartt sales so good they have money to burn on hiring a fake Slap Dickies burner shill account to frame them and harm their cred.
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I was a welder/fabricator and shop tech for about 8 years. Carhartt gear literally saved my life a few times. Always gunna back that. But im soft now and work in IT so i’ll rock some dickies for dress pants.
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At least Dickies doesn’t have that wannabe hypebeast workwear line that Carhartt has.
A) Who cares?
B) Dickies does exactly this.
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never tried carhartt but ive been skating dickies for a long time and can confirm dickies are absolute ass
fabric is really scratchy, the seams pull out over time for seemingly no reason, the side and back pocket seams are the most common failure points for me
whatever i have pants wise is probably the last of whatever ill buy from them
their chain wallet is also ass, but their belts are alright
i read on this thread the tshirts are aight, so i might have to try them out
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carhartt WIP having a good Black Friday sale currently
https://us.carhartt-wip.com (https://us.carhartt-wip.com)
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I will always keep at least a pair of 874s, and then another as cutoffs for bicycle rides. But. Carhartt b01s are my preferred pant (until 65 + degrees). I like the duck/cut/made in usa.
In general, carhartt stuff lasts a lot longer for me, and is often manufactured somewhat closer to where I live. I wear way too much carhartt and have basically manifested a blue collar life…if wearing the clothes for work, the wash machine is the enemy. The less you can wash, the long the b01s last. It’s dramatic. I’ve looked at some of those work wear companies (1620), and….shit just looks a little too precious/perfect for the brewery/the type of person that’s gonna talk about their ‘edc’.
I am this shallow.
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@ok B01's are the best skate pants, hands down. They're a little heavy and take getting used to, but the durability and fit is the best.
The only thing I like skating better are random loose fit cotton chinos from thrift stores. I really did love 874s for the longest, but polyester sucks.
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@ok B01's are the best skate pants, hands down. They're a little heavy and take getting used to, but the durability and fit is the best.
The only thing I like skating better are random loose fit cotton chinos from thrift stores. I really did love 874s for the longest, but polyester sucks.
Some 874s feel decent, some have the wrong vibrations: just the feeling on the skin feels too weird.
I am all in on b01s, and then 501s, with the occasional wrangler…but that’s off topic. The main drawback to b01s, for me, is humidity/heat. The cut is ideal tho.
Cotton chinos sound nice for the warmer days
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I was a welder/fabricator and shop tech for about 8 years. Carhartt gear literally saved my life a few times. Always gunna back that. But im soft now and work in IT so i’ll rock some dickies for dress pants.
Just out of curiosity, how did they save your life? I’m a collision repair tech(aka bodyman) and do fab work and build customs and hotrods. So basically the same crap as what you did. Always worn Dickies or Red Kap for the past 20ish years. Nothings ever caught on fire or anything, so just genuinely curious.
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I was a welder/fabricator and shop tech for about 8 years. Carhartt gear literally saved my life a few times. Always gunna back that. But im soft now and work in IT so i’ll rock some dickies for dress pants.
Just out of curiosity, how did they save your life? I’m a collision repair tech(aka bodyman) and do fab work and build customs and hotrods. So basically the same crap as what you did. Always worn Dickies or Red Kap for the past 20ish years. Nothings ever caught on fire or anything, so just genuinely curious.
Definitely more of an exaggeration but I caught on fire a few times, especially when I started working in glassblowing. Theres a noticeable difference when a pair of levis catches vs a pair of carhartts haha.
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I actually have to work in my work pants and i'd choose carhartt over dickies any day regardless of price.
Dickies are like 65% polyester while most carhartt are 100% cotton, at least the ones i buy. Carhartt get softer with age while dickies just get gross and scratchy because of the polyester degrading. Also it is way harder to get dried concrete off dickies than carhartt. Dickies heavy duty pocket shirts are nice though and durable (also 100% cotton).
Fuck wearing plastic clothes.
I also have to work in my work pants. And you’re response has me second guessing my decisions. I always got dickies cause they are cheap and I can get them anywhere and I can skate in them too but the 100% cotton and no plastic clothes really hit a nerve with me and will now be looking into carhartt for my next work pants choice. I already buy carhartt vests and beanies. when you are actually in the cold carhartt beanies keep your head warm and the carhartt vest I have is lighter and warmer than the dickies one I have been running the last 3 or so years
Yeah, I just think about how every time you put your dickies (or any other polyester clothes) through the wash they shed millions of plastic fibres which then eventually get washed out to sea or some other water system. The amount of plastic used in our society is insane and I think when people think of plastic they think of plastic bags and straws but they don't think of the clothes they are wearing which are just as bad. The more you think about the plastic issue the more you realise how bad it truly is. We're lucky that most skate brand t shirts are 100% cotton.
When I was 19, my work Dickies gave me a yeast infection. Miss me with the plastic pantlones
If you're not buying the double knee B01s, regular Carhartt's run $10 more than Dickies in my size at $40 and there are always sales. The Loose Fit is slimmer than their standard and is probably closest to the 574, although not as slim. I've been on the Duluth Trading company pants for a while now though. They also have 1% elastic in them and the standard carpenter cut is perfect.
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Dickies were great when I was a broke ass kid. Ben Davis are better, buy those instead they last longer.
Never had Cahart pants, they are over $100 at my local skate shop. No thanks.
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How is this even a topic?
Polyester and pants never go well together …
Dickies carpenter duck jeans are good though
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Carhartt pants are too long. I'm not even short and they bunch up so much at my ankles. Carhartt gear is way better quality than Dickies though
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
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I'll take this moment to say buy DOMESTICS
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
Made in America don't mean much if it ain't union made. Made in America just means "the Capitalists that control this company exploit US workers". If it's union made you know the workers at least make an okay wage and benefits.
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
Made in America don't mean much if it ain't union made. Made in America just means "the Capitalists that control this company exploit US workers". If it's union made you know the workers at least make an okay wage and benefits.
Would gnar if I could.
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
Made in America don't mean much if it ain't union made. Made in America just means "the Capitalists that control this company exploit US workers". If it's union made you know the workers at least make an okay wage and benefits.
What workwear companies in the USA are union made?
I don't fuck with Carhartt morally either, they enforced the vaccine mandate among their staff. Maybe if their workers had a union that wouldn't have happened? Clothes are still the best quality to price trade-off that I can find locally though.
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I'll take this moment to say buy DOMESTICS
Seems like the perfect moment for me to ask: how is the sizing? I wear a 34 in just about everything. Also keen to know the leg opening size. Hard to get a good idea from the pics on the site and no one that I know rocks them.
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Dickies in the summer (they’re thinner)
Carhartt in the winter (they’re thicker)
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BEN DAVIS FOR LIFE:)
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
Made in America don't mean much if it ain't union made. Made in America just means "the Capitalists that control this company exploit US workers". If it's union made you know the workers at least make an okay wage and benefits.
What workwear companies in the USA are union made?
I don't fuck with Carhartt morally either, they enforced the vaccine mandate among their staff. Maybe if their workers had a union that wouldn't have happened? Clothes are still the best quality to price trade-off that I can find locally though.
I'll update this as I find more but here is one that actually has a solid selection. Mostly jeans but they've got dungarees. Even has double front for people who fuck with those:
Found the following from here: https://www.unionlabel.com/mens-pants.html
Roundhouse - Jeans, Dungarees, Double Front (wide variety): https://www.round-house.com/collections/round-house-made-in-usa-jeans-dungarees-pants
Union Line - Jeans, Carpenter Jeans, Twill, Dungaree:
https://www.unionmadeclothing.com/search/?q=jeans
https://www.unionmadeclothing.com/union-line-fr-dungaree (probably actually light enough to skate in)
B01 Carhartt double knee dungarees (apparently union "cut and sewn"): https://www.unionlabel.com/carhartt-b01-canvas-double-knee-dungarees-union-ma01.html
Yeah, idk... its a short list... but hopefully that can give people some direction
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dickies are not friendly to people with big thighs
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I like the 100% cotton Ben Davis better than both. But they're fucking enormous and only come in one fit/cut, so if it's not for you, then they probably wouldn't work, unless you have a good tailor nearby.
The problem I personally have with Carhartt is that they sell themselves as this all-american, made-in-america, by-workers-for-workers type of company but like 5% or less of the clothes are actually made in america and all that bullshit is just advertising (lying) to trick simple blue-collar folks out of their hard-earned money. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
Made in America don't mean much if it ain't union made. Made in America just means "the Capitalists that control this company exploit US workers". If it's union made you know the workers at least make an okay wage and benefits.
What workwear companies in the USA are union made?
I don't fuck with Carhartt morally either, they enforced the vaccine mandate among their staff. Maybe if their workers had a union that wouldn't have happened? Clothes are still the best quality to price trade-off that I can find locally though.
I'll update this as I find more but here is one that actually has a solid selection. Mostly jeans but they've got dungarees. Even has double front for people who fuck with those:
https://www.round-house.com/collections/round-house-made-in-usa-jeans-dungarees-pants
Thanks, their jackets look nice.
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this should have been a poll
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I like both, and carhartt wip
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I was a welder/fabricator and shop tech for about 8 years. Carhartt gear literally saved my life a few times. Always gunna back that. But im soft now and work in IT so i’ll rock some dickies for dress pants.
Just out of curiosity, how did they save your life? I’m a collision repair tech(aka bodyman) and do fab work and build customs and hotrods. So basically the same crap as what you did. Always worn Dickies or Red Kap for the past 20ish years. Nothings ever caught on fire or anything, so just genuinely curious.
Definitely more of an exaggeration but I caught on fire a few times, especially when I started working in glassblowing. Theres a noticeable difference when a pair of levis catches vs a pair of carhartts haha.
Gotcha. That’s what I was guessing. Dickies/Red Kaps don’t burn either. Used to do Bens but can’t easily get them in Yubatuckey.
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I wear Dickies for skating and Carhartt for work
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Thank you for the list of union made work wear.
I’m a union tradesperson and try to support my labor brothers and sisters.
In my brief stint making clothes for Brujaria I learned how shitty the apparel world is so it’s nice to see a decent alternative.
Per the original discussion, I live in the loose fit double knee Dickies, all logos cut off. They fit well over my boots and the little side pocket is useful for my dykes or torpedo level. They also strike the balance of affordable vs durable vs disposable as its inevitable I’ll get schmutz on my clothes at work. Downside, I’d prefer not to support VF Corp for personal reasons. Upside, Vincent Alvarez rips.
Carhartt is tainted now for me after having been in the store on LaBrea in LA. Not a fan of the “laborer chic” trend.
Ben Davis is sick tho. Need a utility pocket and I’m set.
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Anybody fuck with Berne? I think I like their work pants more than Carhartt.
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Thank you for the list of union made work wear.
I’m a union tradesperson and try to support my labor brothers and sisters.
In my brief stint making clothes for Brujaria I learned how shitty the apparel world is so it’s nice to see a decent alternative.
Per the original discussion, I live in the loose fit double knee Dickies, all logos cut off. They fit well over my boots and the little side pocket is useful for my dykes or torpedo level. They also strike the balance of affordable vs durable vs disposable as its inevitable I’ll get schmutz on my clothes at work. Downside, I’d prefer not to support VF Corp for personal reasons. Upside, Vincent Alvarez rips.
Carhartt is tainted now for me after having been in the store on LaBrea in LA. Not a fan of the “laborer chic” trend.
Ben Davis is sick tho. Need a utility pocket and I’m set.
For sure. Thanks for sharing this.
I think I might make a thread on Union/Worker CO-OP made gear. Definitely hop in there and let people know why its important to you. I think sharing these stories and context is important. I'd love to hear more about the VF corp shit in that thread (but I understand if you don't want to share).
Here's the thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124463.0
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im not a burner account lol, i was just thinkin like damn Dickies are way better in general for the price and fit it gives you. like ive had some carhartt and they are good i just cant skate them well the way they fit for me is not that good, what mostly gets me is price point and fit but if i ditch the price point Polar 93 denims are pretty good for everything. if we are talking about workwear quality for a day to day ill choose Carhartt but for skating specifically ill wear dickies its a good price for something thats getting destroyed while im skating and has a great fit.
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Carhartt WIP through and through here. Though I will say, you gotta get the shit on sale for it to be worth it in my opinion. Why pay the streetwear prices when you can easily type in the carhartt wip product you want in google and find them from hundreds of sellers on sale or less than retail. My dad even worked at the dickies warehouse here in Fort Worth, TX for years. Dickies was cool when I was 15 but wouldn’t be caught wearing it now…
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How is this even a topic?
Polyester and pants never go well together …
Dickies carpenter duck jeans are good though
Dickies duck work pants are preferable if someone was to buy me a pair of Carhartt pants double knee pants I wouldn’t say no but I can only afford Dickies.
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Carhartt is vastly superior in every way. I've skated tons of dickies and once this last bit of them are dead I'm gonna replace them with carhartts
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Ben Davis yo
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At least Dickies doesn’t have that wannabe hypebeast workwear line that Carhartt has.
Carhartt WIP isn't actually run by mainline Carhartt. It's a separate thing through a licensing deal with some Europeans.
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dickies are not friendly to people with big thighs
Wrangler> Carhartt & Dickies
U shape crotch yo I'm telling you yo. The best shit especially if you cop dead stock from the 90s and 00.
I know I've said it before but we need to get wrangler into skating. Fred Perry too. Just long enough to get a bunch of cool shit made and get some cool people paid.
All skate models feature a u shape crotch and a new button fly. I wish wranglers had skinny jeans with a button fly.
Thick ass denim. That would be the greatest.
Fucking Fred Perry x Wrangler x Fancy Lad this time. Oi oi oi up the Bat Haus Ponks
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dickies are not friendly to people with big thighs
Wrangler> Carhartt & Dickies
U shape crotch yo I'm telling you yo. The best shit especially if you cop dead stock from the 90s and 00.
I know I've said it before but we need to get wrangler into skating. Fred Perry too. Just long enough to get a bunch of cool shit made and get some cool people paid.
All skate models feature a u shape crotch and a new button fly. I wish wranglers had skinny jeans with a button fly.
Thick ass denim. That would be the greatest.
Fucking Fred Perry x Wrangler x Fancy Lad this time. Oi oi oi up the Bat Haus Ponks
oh yeah fred perry the brand of the proud boys
good look doofus
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BULL SHIT! Don't give them that shit.
Fuck the proud boys.
Fred Perry is a fucking punk rock / traditional skinhead thing. Has been since the beginning. And I know there's more fucking Nazis in work pants than fucking Fred Perry. I seen it with my eyes and not on a phone.
All Eastern hammer skins wore Dickies and docs as part of their uniform. Probably still do.
Fred Perry pulled their gold and black colours. It was a mistake. Now the boneheads pretty much own that shit.
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:o YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i was fucking wrong Dickies fucking sucks asss ??? like top 3 worst pants ive used they dont last shit i litterally made a post in the first 3 sessions thinking i was doing some big and radical statement lol :o :o :o :o :-X :-X :-X :-X
(https://i.ibb.co/FJsz4Ws/DP-13618-012.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FJsz4Ws)
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I work on a loading dock so Carhartt are my preferred pants for work, for skating I like the Dickies skate line
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I have never had a pair of Dickies or Carhartt pants, but the Carhartt WIP Detroit jacket (winter version) is really nice and I got it for 40% off so I vote Carhartt.