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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Squeak on November 29, 2022, 12:09:12 AM
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Have u ever done one?
I did one when I was 15 on a box at the skate park. I’m 30 now
I went parallel to the box and then did a kick flip (which I had dialled at that time), and I kind of willed the tail with my mind into the ledge, and it slid for a bit and I came out.
I love Stefan janoskis kicnflip back tails
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Have u ever done one?
I did one when I was 15 on a box at the skate park. I’m 30 now
I went parallel to the box and then did a kick flip (which I had dialled at that time), and I kind of willed the tail with my mind into the ledge, and it slid for a bit and I came out.
I love Stefan janoskis kicnflip back tails
33 skater dad over here ;D
last year I worked 3 blocks from a skateplaza, so every lunch break it was session time, all gear and clothes in the trunk
I managed to land a few nbd for me and kickflip back tail was one of them.
-my back tails always sucked hard so I invested a lot of time and sessions working on them, to regs and to fakie. I do still suck at them but learned how not to die while trying in the process
-quick kickflip its mandatory, find your right spot in the board to make them consistently
-shoulders as paralell to the ledge as you can
-try to land of top of the ledge (tail) a little squatted so you can balance
-try a lot on a non skateable ledge so I you got the motion
-and after 70 tries you might get one as I did
-never try again ;D
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I learned it before bs tails. I still can't bs tail, haven't done a single one because I'm always sticking. But for some reason if I kickflip into it it just slides without any resistance. It's so much easier for me
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I learned it before bs tails. I still can't bs tail, haven't done a single one because I'm always sticking. But for some reason if I kickflip into it it just slides without any resistance. It's so much easier for me
same shit for me but with back smiths
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I learned it before bs tails. I still can't bs tail, haven't done a single one because I'm always sticking. But for some reason if I kickflip into it it just slides without any resistance. It's so much easier for me
same shit for me but with back smiths
Damn I can't bs smith either and might have to try flipping in. Seems super scary
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I learned it before bs tails. I still can't bs tail, haven't done a single one because I'm always sticking. But for some reason if I kickflip into it it just slides without any resistance. It's so much easier for me
same shit for me but with back smiths
same for me but with ssbsnbs
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I'm lucky enough to have one on film!
http://www.instagram.com/p/ByqAO2FApUv/
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I'm lucky enough to have a proper one on film!
http://www.instagram.com/p/ByqAO2FApUv/
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i have done one, just one. it's a trick that's in some ways easier than a regular back tail (which i have done a couple of times but most of the time i can't even get into them) because the board flips into the ledge but at the same time it's harder because you have to catch the kickflip and land into a back tail. i like ollie back tails more though.
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Number 1 bunted trick I’ve seen. Dudes who can’t really skate whip into them to look good at the park.
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you ever seen fs shove to bs tail?
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Maybe done 100-150 of them. Maybe slid about 200 feet total. Done some switch even worse.
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I’ve done one on a skate park box like ten years ago. I haven’t done one since but I have back tails pretty good. I feel like I could do it again but I just haven’t really put in the time trying it. Would rather learn switch back tail at this point.
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trash.
just kidding. pretty legit. def better than i could do!
i am just learning how to slide a back tail longer than like a foot or two, its scary. i would love to be able to do them like 20 feet like some of those guys
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trash.
just kidding. pretty legit. def better than i could do!
i am just learning how to slide a back tail longer than like a foot or two, its scary. i would love to be able to do them like 20 feet like some of those guys
Haha, thanks man. It's all in the shoulders, really. You wanna keep your shoulders open and parallel to the ledge.
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in my prime (which ended in 2004), I could do kf back tail shove-its. I was all about kickflipping into everything at that time, but once I got the kf back tail, I felt pretty confident all around in my skating. To me it just looks the best. have not kickflipped into a grind or slide since like 2013 due to my left ankle being complete trash. It is a gross feeling to know that you will probably never do something again, that at one time made you feel pretty awesome.
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It’s either within 15 tries or none at all. I do one every 3 years. Next one in 2025 8)
https://youtu.be/b4zdr29uklY
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this is my ultimate dream trick but i think it might be beyond me.
that said i've got most of the stuff i had on my dream list when i restarted so we'll see.
just learned fs tails a couple of weeks ago, so at least i know i can get my tail on a ledge at least.
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this is my ultimate dream trick but i think it might be beyond me.
that said i've got most of the stuff i had on my dream list when i restarted so we'll see.
just learned fs tails a couple of weeks ago, so at least i know i can get my tail on a ledge at least.
When it comes to kickflipping into grinds you want to aim the flick at the grind, if that makes any sense. Before locking into whatever slide or grind it is the flick should already be complete and in the position of the grind before making contact with the obstacle.
That advice may seem kind of obvious but it may help.
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I'm pretty good at flat so I can flip into a back tail pretty easily, but I suck at ledges so don't think I've ever slid one properly in my life. Been trying it for about 10 years now
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Dope trick. Take it to a hubba or handrail and ur automatically a hometown hero. Statement trick.
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I'm lucky enough to have a proper one on film!
http://www.instagram.com/p/ByqAO2FApUv/
Thanks my G!
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never done one, i really should try to before im too old and shitty.
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Came really close to landing one a few months ago, one of those land on the board and instantly fell off attempts :-\ then got injured a month later and its been eating me up wanting to get healthy again to redeem myself.
Did a KF back Suski on the tiniest DIY box by accident tho and that felt pretty cool 8)
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might have to completely relearn them probably.
i used to have them before i had regular backtails way back in the day. nowadays i can backtail quite ok but i cannot do flip backtail anymore.
couple of years ago (at least 8 maybe 6) when all we did was skate the rather high ledge at the new skatepark i was pretty decent at doing flip backtails on there with some solid slide, and even flip backtail shuvit out. never got to land a kickflip backside tailslide bigspin out though, even if i came quite close.
damn, thinking of all of this, makes me juiced to go out an relearn fucking kickflip backside tailslides. thanks g
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I did more kickflip back tails than back tails.
Imo it’s easier to flip your board into a back tail than popping and turning into a normal backside tailslide.
Maybe because backside flips always felt good to me. The bs ts was always my favorite trick but I never had them down.now I’m too old to learn them unfortunately.
When I have time to skate I like to do the stuff I’m good at.I don’t want to sit at home thinking a wasted my little skate time I have trying a trick a can’t do proper for over 20 years now. Old men problems I guess.
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Never.
But I really want to do one, but I never really even try it. I should put some actual effort into it someday.
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Way out of my league but thanks to this thread I can live through you guys vicariously.
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Did my last one when i was in my 20s like 10 years ago, can't remember. Had them good for awhile, now struggling with regular backtails... Trick feels so good when you stick it.
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This thread is inspiring. Always wanted to do this trick, it’s one of those moves that is just a skaters skater trick.
I’m 35 and landed my first two (awful) back tails last year. I’m gonna huck a few flips into them next sesh, never even tried before because it seemed so far out of my league but reading that some of you find it easier to flip in gives me one single grain of hope.
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I also just love the phrase “kicky back tail”
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
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I love back tails, favorite ledge trick hands down. I find it’s easier to do kickflip back tails by having your flick foot higher up on the nose, and hanging a BIT more off to the side, than you would have it for a normal kickflip. It’s paramount that you wait until you catch the flip before you whip your legs into the back tail stance. If you try to flip and turn it at the same time, you will hit the ledge popping up almost every try. Patience and Hail Marys.
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I did a single one 15 years ago but now I really want to try again. Thanks pals :-*
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nope, never did it
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I also just love the phrase “kicky back tail”
lol sounds like something Shane Oneill would say hahaha
How about hardies for hardflips lol. Nollie hardies, switch hardies.
I also like "switch v. heel". Sounds sick. But it doesn't work saying "v heel" for regular varial heels. Only works for switch varial heels imo.
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
I think it depends if you have a satisfying roll away on the bsts. its easier to have a clean roll away from a crook
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
It's also 100 times harder and looks great, of course it must feel better
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
I think it depends if you have a satisfying roll away on the bsts. its easier to have a clean roll away from a crook
Really?imo the hardest part is to log in the back tail,slide and hold your balance…a clean roll away from a back tail is not that difficult.when I try to come out of a crooks the board flips a half nollie heel sometimes.
Kickflip Crooks is way harder compared to a kicky back tail.
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Easer than back tails...
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I tried about ten tonight because of this thread. To my surprise I locked into three of them with my back foot, but my body wasn’t fully turned back/front foot was far off, but it did actually feel attainable.
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I did a kickflip backtail stop rolling slowly next to a curb in 2010. From that pathetic performance I can tell this trick feels great. Also looks fantastic. The backtail is such an aesthetically pleasing trick, and the flip in can be made to look so graceful too.
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Back tail kickflips are better
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Back tail kickflips are better
Kicky back tail kicky lol
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If back noseblunt is the switch tre of ledge tricks, is the kf back tail the fullcab flip?
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If back noseblunt is the switch tre of ledge tricks, is the kf back tail the fullcab flip?
for whatever reason I think it's more like the fakie front side flip of ledge tricks.
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Only once, on a homemade ledge when I was a kid. Probably didn't count but it counted enough for me as a 13 year old. Did it to fakie and my front trucks were probably touching the ground during the slide the entire time
sigh
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
I think it depends if you have a satisfying roll away on the bsts. its easier to have a clean roll away from a crook
Really?imo the hardest part is to log in the back tail,slide and hold your balance…a clean roll away from a back tail is not that difficult.when I try to come out of a crooks the board flips a half nollie heel sometimes.
Kickflip Crooks is way harder compared to a kicky back tail.
Hard disagree, if you've got a good kf (or at least can catch them at the peak) then kf crooks is way easier. KFBST is much more of a prayer for me anyway
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originally learned kickflip back tails maybe 9 years ago? started getting ghostpop on my backside flips and had trouble doing kickflip back tails as a result so i stopped doing them. Practiced my back bigspins and learned bigspin back tails after but couldn't kickflip back tail during that time. Then i fucked up my achilles and lost my ease with bigspins and ended up re-learning kickflip back tails. Something about kickflip back tails are really fun and satisfying to do.
i'd say most back tail tricks are more intimidating then they are difficult. I was terrified of slipping out of back tails and slamming on my face when i first was learning them but once you've done a few they become much easier
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originally learned kickflip back tails maybe 9 years ago? started getting ghostpop on my backside flips and had trouble doing kickflip back tails as a result so i stopped doing them. Practiced my back bigspins and learned bigspin back tails after but couldn't kickflip back tail during that time. Then i fucked up my achilles and lost my ease with bigspins and ended up re-learning kickflip back tails. Something about kickflip back tails are really fun and satisfying to do.
i'd say most back tail tricks are more intimidating then they are difficult. I was terrified of slipping out of back tails and slamming on my face when i first was learning them but once you've done a few they become much easier
how'd you learn back big tails? big spins and back tails are pretty much my only go tos but that trick just seems impossible to me. is it more of a big spin or pop shuv feeling when popping into it?
and do you usually slide it like a back tail to regular or back tail fakie? (to me those are way different ways of sliding). cheers
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originally learned kickflip back tails maybe 9 years ago? started getting ghostpop on my backside flips and had trouble doing kickflip back tails as a result so i stopped doing them. Practiced my back bigspins and learned bigspin back tails after but couldn't kickflip back tail during that time. Then i fucked up my achilles and lost my ease with bigspins and ended up re-learning kickflip back tails. Something about kickflip back tails are really fun and satisfying to do.
i'd say most back tail tricks are more intimidating then they are difficult. I was terrified of slipping out of back tails and slamming on my face when i first was learning them but once you've done a few they become much easier
how'd you learn back big tails? big spins and back tails are pretty much my only go tos but that trick just seems impossible to me. is it more of a big spin or pop shuv feeling when popping into it?
and do you usually slide it like a back tail to regular or back tail fakie? (to me those are way different ways of sliding). cheers
When you're first learning it, go at a hard angle (maybe even 45 degrees) so the board goes over the ledge and rotates into the back tail position. Don't try and keep the bigspin in front of you or else it won't lock into back tail and will just bounce off of the ledge, you just have to pop it like a normal flatground bigspin. Once you get better at it, you'll naturally start going at less of an angle and will eventually be able to do them parallel to the ledge, but start on something small like a curb because bigspinning into a ledge will feel really unnatural at first.
Also i usually do them to fakie, i don't personally look at back tails to regular or fakie as a different slide but moreso how i position my head to my shoulders will dictate how i land (head over my shoulder i'll land regular, head looking down at my feet i'll land fakie). Hope you land your first biggie back tail soon!
edit* if you're good at back bigspins, use the same hard angle when approaching a ledge backside and you should be able to do pop-shove back 50-50's, you just gotta pop it like a bigspin but rotate the board/your body less
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I’ve only ever done it switch. Switch backside has always been easier for me than regular for some odd reason.
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I’ve thrown a few at the park to look better than I am like someone above said but never got one
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Have u ever done one?
I did one when I was 15 on a box at the skate park. I’m 30 now
I went parallel to the box and then did a kick flip (which I had dialled at that time), and I kind of willed the tail with my mind into the ledge, and it slid for a bit and I came out.
I love Stefan janoskis kicnflip back tails
Same. That was the only one. Also I skipped back tail, never did one.
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Have u ever done one?
I did one when I was 15 on a box at the skate park. I’m 30 now
I went parallel to the box and then did a kick flip (which I had dialled at that time), and I kind of willed the tail with my mind into the ledge, and it slid for a bit and I came out.
I love Stefan janoskis kicnflip back tails
Same. That was the only one. Also I skipped back tail, never did one.
go do one
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incoming hot take: kickflip crooks feel better than kickflip back tails.
Change my mind.
I challenge with kicky front 50
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I'm lucky enough to have a proper one on film!
http://www.instagram.com/p/ByqAO2FApUv/
Agreed that's proper as fuck
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Yes.
I couldn't backside tailslide or backside 5-0, even if my life depended on it, but I could flip into them.
Most people would be very impressed when I did those, and I always felt like the biggest cheat ever.
Same with heelflips. I could only do them inward and it took me YEARS to land a regular one ... cool trick, but I always felt like a douche when I did an inward heelflip because I couldn't do regular ones :(
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I've done a few. One of the best feeling tricks in my opinion.
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fuck I've never really tried one because my bs tailslides suck, but this thread got me juiced. I am going to try to land one on my weekend session when it's not raining...wish me luck
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I've done a few. One of the best feeling tricks in my opinion.
I’ve personally seen you do them in Fullerton. I was a background character, but I was around.
Me and the LBC/508 crew would roll out there to the high school. Then skate the manual pads across the street. Gideon, Ronnie, Robbie, and yourself were always ripping.
Gideon and Robbie were phenomenal.