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No not the skater the writer
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/the-race-to-soty-and-some-thoughts?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
THE RACE TO SOTY & SOME THOUGHTS ON RACE
The King Gets His Second Crown & the People React.
Anthony Pappalardo
Dec 11
Since the advent of social media, the run-up and announcement of Thrasher Magazine’s “Skater Of the Year” honor have become contentious. That’s mostly a function of more folks having the ability to agree, disagree, shit on, vent, and wax about the award but this year… wow, it’s been strange if not aggressive at times.
Before we dig into all of this let’s make be crystal: The majority of talk around SOTY celebrates Tyshawn’s achievement but it’s worth unpacking the weirdness around the naysayers because that’s part of this newsletter’s intent–figuring out why people get so angry about skateboarding.
On December 8, 2022, Thrasher announced that Tyshawn Jones would net his second SOTY award, immediately causing everyone with the ability to post a reaction to catch feelings. Before we get into that, I’d like to note that this was the same day WNBA player Brittney Griner’s release from a Russian prison was negotiated, resulting in her freedom through a 1-for-1 swap, returning arms dealer Viktor Bout to Russia.
Why am I mentioning this? Like anything Biden or almost any political figure does in 2022, Griner’s return was divisive, with many folks discussing the negotiation as if it were an actual sports trade. In my years on this planet, I’ve never heard so many people and pundits critique a negotiation. Some detractors were so irate, that the only parallel I can think of was the Iranian Hostage Crisis that contributed to Jimmy Carter losing the 1980 Presidential Election to Ronald Reagan. This of course had many, including me wondering if part of the “outrage” was that Griner is both gay and Black and, as we know, the answer is yes because this is the world and time we exist in—a place where we easily disconnect from humanity and context via social media posts because we feel some kind of way about something we’ll move on from in less than 24 hours: the outrage du jour.
THE NOT MY SOTY MEME
Before we get into Tyshawn Jones winning his second SOTY award, I’d like to speak artistic awards. That’s right, I’m calling skateboarding in this case an art because sure, you can say it’s a sport (or not) but in this instance, SOTY isn’t based on any real metric: it’s just a thing the mag invented and give to whomever they like. That’s perfectly fine in my opinion–it’s their magazine, their award, and have never claimed it’s decided by the people or whatever.
I mention art because when people are defending their art or art they admire, they often claim “art is subjective” which is a statement I loathe, not because I own a super useful bachelor’s degree in it but because I find that idea to be lazy and false. Art can be good and art can be terrible and that often lies in the intention.
Here’s an example.
You can give a group of 10 fifth graders some paint, brushes, and canvases and tell them they have an hour to paint whatever they like. One, maybe even three of their paintings might be visually interesting and heck, maybe some of the fifth-grade creators might have a cute reason behind what they pained such as “I painted how I feel when I think of polar bears” or some shit.
That’s great but it’s not art.
Conversely, you could ask a group of 10 art school students to create 10 paintings, put them on a wall upon completion, and have them talk about the work and decide–objectively of course–which paintings work, which paintings deliver on the artist’s intention, and which executions fail.
So artistic awards… I generally don’t care about them and many people who consider themselves fans of the arts don’t either… until they do. We see this when the Grammys occur and people get big mad that their favorite musician didn’t win a thing that has no impact on their personal lives. But some artists want to win awards for several reasons and for some, it’s simply motivation, and after spending their time and effort to achieve something, they might be bummed they didn’t. That’s completely valid, of course.
In a sense, achieving “Skater Of the Year” is an exercise in delivering on your art which is your skateboarding. It can be gnarly art, technical art, expressive art, aggressive art, or something else, but the award (in theory) goes to the person who, during a calendar year (kind of), expressed their skateboarding through photographs, video, and in person in a way that fits with the coveted award. In 2022, Thrasher Magazine decided that person was Tyshawn Jones and you know what? That’s fucking awesome, king, because Tyshawn Jones is not only an incredible skateboarder, he’s an incredible skateboarder who unabashedly wants to win Skater Of the Year and did his best to secure it.
But some people disagree with the decision and of course, that’s also something they absolutely have the freedom to express through whatever means of communication they choose. In fact, some folks feel that their favorite skater was “robbed” of this unmeasurable award. And, some people take it further by attacking the winner, and in Tyshawn’s case, they start to talk about his character in derogatory ways, sometimes with racial overtones, most commonly about his “work ethic” or even calling him “arrogant.” I don’t want to repost any of that but let’s dig into some opinions.
This guy has an opinion. (He’s a pro!)
[screenshot of David Gravette’s IG comment]
So does this guy. (He’s not!)
[screenshot of Weckingball’s IG story]
And who could forget this guy?
[screenshot of GH’s switch ollie video]
He felt so strongly (or maybe felt there was a strong chance he could monetize his opinion) about a switch ollie that he created an entire video “debunking” a switch ollie because it could impact the award Tyshawn had yet to win, only to be debunked himself by Tyshawn Jones through an Instagram post. And then TJ won anyway.
Regardless of any posts, tweets, or rants, Tyshawn Jones is Thrasher Magazine’s 2022 “Skater Of the Year,” and won the award by doing some incredible things on a skateboard. In a sense, NBDs are one of skateboarding’s only metrics outside of contests and Tyshawn did plenty of them.
*Perhaps Dumb Data or 4Ply Magazine can break them down and start another potentially awesome conversation, but there is no way in hell I’m watching a bunch of YouTube videos again to catalog NBDs and continue the discourse.
I interviewed Tyshawn Jones twice in 2017. During one of the interviews he told me the following things:
“I’m not a contest skater. No shade, but doing the same five tricks over and over perfectly is boring—it’s just doing the same thing. I like to do what’s in my mind.”
“I’m always motivated because I don’t feel like I’ve accomplished everything I’ve wanted to yet. Maybe once I get everything I want in life, maybe I’ll get lazy—who knows?”
Since 2017, Tyshawn’s opened a restaurant, had two signature shoes on adidas Skateboarding, been featured prominently in Supreme videos, arguably the biggest skateboarding brand in the world, as well as other brand videos and projects, continued to operate Hardies Hardware, won Thrasher’s “Skater Of the Year” twice, modeled for several fashion campaigns, just launched a board brand, King Skateboards, with his friend Na-Kel Smith, and probably did a grip of other things I’m forgetting.
You can be upset that your binky didn’t win SOTY but come on, don’t call this man lazy, that’s objectively false.
*A previous version of this post stated the date of the SOTY announcement incorrectly has been updated for accuracy.
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And then someone reposted this GH patreon video where he claps back at Pappalardo at 24:32
https://youtu.be/hvRe4DpNiPI
There’s some other good stuff in this vid like
GH’s thoughts on being called racist by Tyshawn
Phelps not liking T-Funk
Nak lobbying against T-Funk for soty bc he said the n word as a teenager
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Not really feeling this.
Conflating racism with not thinking Tyshawn should have won would make more sense if Nyjah were white but it'd still be shitty.
The whole "skateboarding is art" thing has always been overplayed to me. It's like, yeah there's a lot of room to choose your own path and style, and I consider it an art to an extent, but it's not the same as painting, sculpting etc.
"This kickflip represents the duality of mankind, how we can be both good and evil, beautiful and ugly"
Yeah, doesn't really work.
And then the closing statement...lazy? Who the hell is calling Tyshawn lazy? Pretty sure the outrage was that Nyjah, you know, did harder tricks.
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No not the skater the writer
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/the-race-to-soty-and-some-thoughts?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
THE RACE TO SOTY & SOME THOUGHTS ON RACE
The King Gets His Second Crown & the People React.
Anthony Pappalardo
Dec 11
Since the advent of social media, the run-up and announcement of Thrasher Magazine’s “Skater Of the Year” honor have become contentious. That’s mostly a function of more folks having the ability to agree, disagree, shit on, vent, and wax about the award but this year… wow, it’s been strange if not aggressive at times.
Before we dig into all of this let’s make be crystal: The majority of talk around SOTY celebrates Tyshawn’s achievement but it’s worth unpacking the weirdness around the naysayers because that’s part of this newsletter’s intent–figuring out why people get so angry about skateboarding.
On December 8, 2022, Thrasher announced that Tyshawn Jones would net his second SOTY award, immediately causing everyone with the ability to post a reaction to catch feelings. Before we get into that, I’d like to note that this was the same day WNBA player Brittney Griner’s release from a Russian prison was negotiated, resulting in her freedom through a 1-for-1 swap, returning arms dealer Viktor Bout to Russia.
Why am I mentioning this? Like anything Biden or almost any political figure does in 2022, Griner’s return was divisive, with many folks discussing the negotiation as if it were an actual sports trade. In my years on this planet, I’ve never heard so many people and pundits critique a negotiation. Some detractors were so irate, that the only parallel I can think of was the Iranian Hostage Crisis that contributed to Jimmy Carter losing the 1980 Presidential Election to Ronald Reagan. This of course had many, including me wondering if part of the “outrage” was that Griner is both gay and Black and, as we know, the answer is yes because this is the world and time we exist in—a place where we easily disconnect from humanity and context via social media posts because we feel some kind of way about something we’ll move on from in less than 24 hours: the outrage du jour.
THE NOT MY SOTY MEME
Before we get into Tyshawn Jones winning his second SOTY award, I’d like to speak artistic awards. That’s right, I’m calling skateboarding in this case an art because sure, you can say it’s a sport (or not) but in this instance, SOTY isn’t based on any real metric: it’s just a thing the mag invented and give to whomever they like. That’s perfectly fine in my opinion–it’s their magazine, their award, and have never claimed it’s decided by the people or whatever.
I mention art because when people are defending their art or art they admire, they often claim “art is subjective” which is a statement I loathe, not because I own a super useful bachelor’s degree in it but because I find that idea to be lazy and false. Art can be good and art can be terrible and that often lies in the intention.
Here’s an example.
You can give a group of 10 fifth graders some paint, brushes, and canvases and tell them they have an hour to paint whatever they like. One, maybe even three of their paintings might be visually interesting and heck, maybe some of the fifth-grade creators might have a cute reason behind what they pained such as “I painted how I feel when I think of polar bears” or some shit.
That’s great but it’s not art.
Conversely, you could ask a group of 10 art school students to create 10 paintings, put them on a wall upon completion, and have them talk about the work and decide–objectively of course–which paintings work, which paintings deliver on the artist’s intention, and which executions fail.
So artistic awards… I generally don’t care about them and many people who consider themselves fans of the arts don’t either… until they do. We see this when the Grammys occur and people get big mad that their favorite musician didn’t win a thing that has no impact on their personal lives. But some artists want to win awards for several reasons and for some, it’s simply motivation, and after spending their time and effort to achieve something, they might be bummed they didn’t. That’s completely valid, of course.
In a sense, achieving “Skater Of the Year” is an exercise in delivering on your art which is your skateboarding. It can be gnarly art, technical art, expressive art, aggressive art, or something else, but the award (in theory) goes to the person who, during a calendar year (kind of), expressed their skateboarding through photographs, video, and in person in a way that fits with the coveted award. In 2022, Thrasher Magazine decided that person was Tyshawn Jones and you know what? That’s fucking awesome, king, because Tyshawn Jones is not only an incredible skateboarder, he’s an incredible skateboarder who unabashedly wants to win Skater Of the Year and did his best to secure it.
But some people disagree with the decision and of course, that’s also something they absolutely have the freedom to express through whatever means of communication they choose. In fact, some folks feel that their favorite skater was “robbed” of this unmeasurable award. And, some people take it further by attacking the winner, and in Tyshawn’s case, they start to talk about his character in derogatory ways, sometimes with racial overtones, most commonly about his “work ethic” or even calling him “arrogant.” I don’t want to repost any of that but let’s dig into some opinions.
This guy has an opinion. (He’s a pro!)
[screenshot of David Gravette’s IG comment]
So does this guy. (He’s not!)
[screenshot of Weckingball’s IG story]
And who could forget this guy?
[screenshot of GH’s switch ollie video]
He felt so strongly (or maybe felt there was a strong chance he could monetize his opinion) about a switch ollie that he created an entire video “debunking” a switch ollie because it could impact the award Tyshawn had yet to win, only to be debunked himself by Tyshawn Jones through an Instagram post. And then TJ won anyway.
Regardless of any posts, tweets, or rants, Tyshawn Jones is Thrasher Magazine’s 2022 “Skater Of the Year,” and won the award by doing some incredible things on a skateboard. In a sense, NBDs are one of skateboarding’s only metrics outside of contests and Tyshawn did plenty of them.
*Perhaps Dumb Data or 4Ply Magazine can break them down and start another potentially awesome conversation, but there is no way in hell I’m watching a bunch of YouTube videos again to catalog NBDs and continue the discourse.
I interviewed Tyshawn Jones twice in 2017. During one of the interviews he told me the following things:
“I’m not a contest skater. No shade, but doing the same five tricks over and over perfectly is boring—it’s just doing the same thing. I like to do what’s in my mind.”
“I’m always motivated because I don’t feel like I’ve accomplished everything I’ve wanted to yet. Maybe once I get everything I want in life, maybe I’ll get lazy—who knows?”
Since 2017, Tyshawn’s opened a restaurant, had two signature shoes on adidas Skateboarding, been featured prominently in Supreme videos, arguably the biggest skateboarding brand in the world, as well as other brand videos and projects, continued to operate Hardies Hardware, won Thrasher’s “Skater Of the Year” twice, modeled for several fashion campaigns, just launched a board brand, King Skateboards, with his friend Na-Kel Smith, and probably did a grip of other things I’m forgetting.
You can be upset that your binky didn’t win SOTY but come on, don’t call this man lazy, that’s objectively false.
*A previous version of this post stated the date of the SOTY announcement incorrectly has been updated for accuracy.
he used my Weck screen shot that i posted on here, im honored
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Anthony Pappalardo is corny
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I’m not reading that. That shit is for Suciu and people who like him
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Anthony Pappalardo is corny
Anthony Pappalardo is whack but Anthony Pappalardo definitely isn't.
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No not the skater the writer
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/the-race-to-soty-and-some-thoughts?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
THE RACE TO SOTY & SOME THOUGHTS ON RACE
The King Gets His Second Crown & the People React.
Anthony Pappalardo
Dec 11
Since the advent of social media, the run-up and announcement of Thrasher Magazine’s “Skater Of the Year” honor have become contentious. That’s mostly a function of more folks having the ability to agree, disagree, shit on, vent, and wax about the award but this year… wow, it’s been strange if not aggressive at times.
Before we dig into all of this let’s make be crystal: The majority of talk around SOTY celebrates Tyshawn’s achievement but it’s worth unpacking the weirdness around the naysayers because that’s part of this newsletter’s intent–figuring out why people get so angry about skateboarding.
On December 8, 2022, Thrasher announced that Tyshawn Jones would net his second SOTY award, immediately causing everyone with the ability to post a reaction to catch feelings. Before we get into that, I’d like to note that this was the same day WNBA player Brittney Griner’s release from a Russian prison was negotiated, resulting in her freedom through a 1-for-1 swap, returning arms dealer Viktor Bout to Russia.
Why am I mentioning this? Like anything Biden or almost any political figure does in 2022, Griner’s return was divisive, with many folks discussing the negotiation as if it were an actual sports trade. In my years on this planet, I’ve never heard so many people and pundits critique a negotiation. Some detractors were so irate, that the only parallel I can think of was the Iranian Hostage Crisis that contributed to Jimmy Carter losing the 1980 Presidential Election to Ronald Reagan. This of course had many, including me wondering if part of the “outrage” was that Griner is both gay and Black and, as we know, the answer is yes because this is the world and time we exist in—a place where we easily disconnect from humanity and context via social media posts because we feel some kind of way about something we’ll move on from in less than 24 hours: the outrage du jour.
THE NOT MY SOTY MEME
Before we get into Tyshawn Jones winning his second SOTY award, I’d like to speak artistic awards. That’s right, I’m calling skateboarding in this case an art because sure, you can say it’s a sport (or not) but in this instance, SOTY isn’t based on any real metric: it’s just a thing the mag invented and give to whomever they like. That’s perfectly fine in my opinion–it’s their magazine, their award, and have never claimed it’s decided by the people or whatever.
I mention art because when people are defending their art or art they admire, they often claim “art is subjective” which is a statement I loathe, not because I own a super useful bachelor’s degree in it but because I find that idea to be lazy and false. Art can be good and art can be terrible and that often lies in the intention.
Here’s an example.
You can give a group of 10 fifth graders some paint, brushes, and canvases and tell them they have an hour to paint whatever they like. One, maybe even three of their paintings might be visually interesting and heck, maybe some of the fifth-grade creators might have a cute reason behind what they pained such as “I painted how I feel when I think of polar bears” or some shit.
That’s great but it’s not art.
Conversely, you could ask a group of 10 art school students to create 10 paintings, put them on a wall upon completion, and have them talk about the work and decide–objectively of course–which paintings work, which paintings deliver on the artist’s intention, and which executions fail.
So artistic awards… I generally don’t care about them and many people who consider themselves fans of the arts don’t either… until they do. We see this when the Grammys occur and people get big mad that their favorite musician didn’t win a thing that has no impact on their personal lives. But some artists want to win awards for several reasons and for some, it’s simply motivation, and after spending their time and effort to achieve something, they might be bummed they didn’t. That’s completely valid, of course.
In a sense, achieving “Skater Of the Year” is an exercise in delivering on your art which is your skateboarding. It can be gnarly art, technical art, expressive art, aggressive art, or something else, but the award (in theory) goes to the person who, during a calendar year (kind of), expressed their skateboarding through photographs, video, and in person in a way that fits with the coveted award. In 2022, Thrasher Magazine decided that person was Tyshawn Jones and you know what? That’s fucking awesome, king, because Tyshawn Jones is not only an incredible skateboarder, he’s an incredible skateboarder who unabashedly wants to win Skater Of the Year and did his best to secure it.
But some people disagree with the decision and of course, that’s also something they absolutely have the freedom to express through whatever means of communication they choose. In fact, some folks feel that their favorite skater was “robbed” of this unmeasurable award. And, some people take it further by attacking the winner, and in Tyshawn’s case, they start to talk about his character in derogatory ways, sometimes with racial overtones, most commonly about his “work ethic” or even calling him “arrogant.” I don’t want to repost any of that but let’s dig into some opinions.
This guy has an opinion. (He’s a pro!)
[screenshot of David Gravette’s IG comment]
So does this guy. (He’s not!)
[screenshot of Weckingball’s IG story]
And who could forget this guy?
[screenshot of GH’s switch ollie video]
He felt so strongly (or maybe felt there was a strong chance he could monetize his opinion) about a switch ollie that he created an entire video “debunking” a switch ollie because it could impact the award Tyshawn had yet to win, only to be debunked himself by Tyshawn Jones through an Instagram post. And then TJ won anyway.
Regardless of any posts, tweets, or rants, Tyshawn Jones is Thrasher Magazine’s 2022 “Skater Of the Year,” and won the award by doing some incredible things on a skateboard. In a sense, NBDs are one of skateboarding’s only metrics outside of contests and Tyshawn did plenty of them.
*Perhaps Dumb Data or 4Ply Magazine can break them down and start another potentially awesome conversation, but there is no way in hell I’m watching a bunch of YouTube videos again to catalog NBDs and continue the discourse.
I interviewed Tyshawn Jones twice in 2017. During one of the interviews he told me the following things:
“I’m not a contest skater. No shade, but doing the same five tricks over and over perfectly is boring—it’s just doing the same thing. I like to do what’s in my mind.”
“I’m always motivated because I don’t feel like I’ve accomplished everything I’ve wanted to yet. Maybe once I get everything I want in life, maybe I’ll get lazy—who knows?”
Since 2017, Tyshawn’s opened a restaurant, had two signature shoes on adidas Skateboarding, been featured prominently in Supreme videos, arguably the biggest skateboarding brand in the world, as well as other brand videos and projects, continued to operate Hardies Hardware, won Thrasher’s “Skater Of the Year” twice, modeled for several fashion campaigns, just launched a board brand, King Skateboards, with his friend Na-Kel Smith, and probably did a grip of other things I’m forgetting.
You can be upset that your binky didn’t win SOTY but come on, don’t call this man lazy, that’s objectively false.
*A previous version of this post stated the date of the SOTY announcement incorrectly has been updated for accuracy.
Yeah, this guy is dumb as fuck.
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More manufactured outrage from a guy that doesn’t even skate.
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"SOTY and some thoughts of race" no thanks.
I'm sure a bunch of people arrived at the same joke, but I created a "NOT MY SOTY" meme with a very deep sense of irony, more about the reaction from people flipping their lids over who gets a magazine trophy than any vague accusations of racism. If anything, there's a class element at play, but we have no vocabulary for a conversation about class in America so I won't even bother with that. But obviously, the people who were upset, were upset that the other black guy didn't win, so you know, it's not really particularly racist.
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Also, once again, Slap > "skate Twitter"
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Not really feeling this.
Conflating racism with not thinking Tyshawn should have won would make more sense if Nyjah were white but it'd still be shitty.
The whole "skateboarding is art" thing has always been overplayed to me. It's like, yeah there's a lot of room to choose your own path and style, and I consider it an art to an extent, but it's not the same as painting, sculpting etc.
"This kickflip represents the duality of mankind, how we can be both good and evil, beautiful and ugly"
Yeah, doesn't really work.
And then the closing statement...lazy? Who the hell is calling Tyshawn lazy? Pretty sure the outrage was that Nyjah, you know, did harder tricks.
Is he confusing people’s opinions of KB and Na-Kel with their opinions of Tyshawn? I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone call Tyshawn lazy.
I think a major factor of some of the grumbling behind this win, in my opinion, was that a second skater of the year trophy was being award to Tyshawn in a year where there were 3 other people making the same type of legitimate SOTY push who have yet to win their first SOTY. Glad we’re nearing the end of these conversations. I want to go back to making fun of Illegal Civ.
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some thoughts on race by tony gabagoolianzino
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That article was doomed from the start: that Brittney Griner comparison was rough and shows he doesn’t even have a cursory knowledge of that issue. But I guess Paul Whelan is Nyjah or is he T-Funk bc they’re both white…
(Also, Nyjah’s black. You can’t really do a article about latent racism when you’re denying the ethnicity of one of the other major contenders)
But I do love him calling out the “outrage du jour” and then seeking to exploit that by ginning up controversy two weeks after the fact when most people’s emotions have cooled over it
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
I feel like I'm always repeating myself, but there's a decently large and mostly untapped market out there for "skaters who went to college" (Suciu, Beachy, Pappalardo, Feedback Ted).
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This is as tough a read as that two page knob slobbing tribute article to K Rod.
Bring back the original Pappalardo I take back everything I said about those cellar doors
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There's no kook button on substack.com
not sure how to proceed....
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
He’s not stereotypically black enough, I think. Criticize Nyjahs “fits” and you’re good, do the same with tyshawns clown ass apparel, and you might be racist.
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I'm just commenting in here to say that I'm not gonna read that article
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There are so many terrible takes jammed into this article, but my favorite is that a fifth grader has 0 artistic ability. How did we even have art before pretentious upper middle class art school colleges?
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There are so many terrible takes jammed into this article, but my favorite is that a fifth grader has 0 artistic ability. How did we even have art before pretentious upper middle class art school colleges?
We didn’t go to art school, that’s where you learn that young humans making very literal works of art isn’t ART.
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Tyshawn vs Nyjah has much more of a “coolguy vs transworld skater” vibe than some racewar shit
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one of the dumbest things ive ever read
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So both Anthony papalardos make stools. One wooden the other written.
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Imma second it, Anthony Pappalardo is corny
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
Yea, this shit makes me laugh tbh. When tyshawn was talking about his being the first black owned board brand, it's funny enough that he just completely disregards all of them from the past, but he also completely ignores the one owned by his biggest SOTY competitor.
I respect tyshawns skating, but this ignorance/ego shit is only gonna get you so far before you wind up looking like Mikey Alfred out here on some total kook shit.
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Total pen name to garner clout. They should play a game of skate to TM the name in the modern era.
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This article was definitely stupid. Shitting on GH because he does his thing on YouTube is cringy. It’s not a contest but GH is more eloquent anyway. You’re not Hemingway just because you wrote it down.
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
Yea, this shit makes me laugh tbh. When tyshawn was talking about his being the first black owned board brand, it's funny enough that he just completely disregards all of them from the past, but he also completely ignores the one owned by his biggest SOTY competitor.
I respect tyshawns skating, but this ignorance/ego shit is only gonna get you so far before you wind up looking like Mikey Alfred out here on some total kook shit.
Isn’t Stevie co owner of DGK with Kalis?
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
No, it’s his real name.
My theory has always been that someone hired him thinking that the had the real pops (I think it was espn) and by the time they realized what had happened, it was past the point where they could fire him without taking a hit on their unemployment rate.
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im just glad we’re finally having these important conversations 8)
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
Yea, this shit makes me laugh tbh. When tyshawn was talking about his being the first black owned board brand, it's funny enough that he just completely disregards all of them from the past, but he also completely ignores the one owned by his biggest SOTY competitor.
I respect tyshawns skating, but this ignorance/ego shit is only gonna get you so far before you wind up looking like Mikey Alfred out here on some total kook shit.
He seems to be discounting co-ownership groups with a white person involved
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one of the dumbest things ive ever read
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#notmyanthonypappalardo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
Yea, this shit makes me laugh tbh. When tyshawn was talking about his being the first black owned board brand, it's funny enough that he just completely disregards all of them from the past, but he also completely ignores the one owned by his biggest SOTY competitor.
I respect tyshawns skating, but this ignorance/ego shit is only gonna get you so far before you wind up looking like Mikey Alfred out here on some total kook shit.
Nah, stevie and the dude that owns kayo, Troy Morgan
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
Yea, this shit makes me laugh tbh. When tyshawn was talking about his being the first black owned board brand, it's funny enough that he just completely disregards all of them from the past, but he also completely ignores the one owned by his biggest SOTY competitor.
I respect tyshawns skating, but this ignorance/ego shit is only gonna get you so far before you wind up looking like Mikey Alfred out here on some total kook shit.
He seems to be discounting co-ownership groups with a white person involved
And also city stars for some reason lol
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"SOTY and some thoughts of race" no thanks.
I'm sure a bunch of people arrived at the same joke, but I created a "NOT MY SOTY" meme with a very deep sense of irony, more about the reaction from people flipping their lids over who gets a magazine trophy than any vague accusations of racism. If anything, there's a class element at play, but we have no vocabulary for a conversation about class in America so I won't even bother with that. But obviously, the people who were upset, were upset that the other black guy didn't win, so you know, it's not really particularly racist.
I laughed when I saw that he referenced your meme
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This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
Nope. He wrote a letter in to one of the first issues of Slap with the same name.
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
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This guy strikes me as the sort that would post a recipe online only to spend a few paragraphs talking about irrelevant shit before getting to the actual ingredients/method.
His name throws me off every time too.
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This guy strikes me as the sort that would post a recipe online only to spend a few paragraphs talking about irrelevant shit before getting to the actual ingredients/method.
His name throws me off every time too.
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I’m not reading that. That shit is for Suciu and people who like him
LOL
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“I’m not a contest skater. No shade, but doing the same five tricks over and over perfectly is boring—it’s just doing the same thing. I like to do what’s in my mind.”
haha, bulllllllllshit.
tyshawn is incredibly vocal about how much $$$ means to him. if he could be a contest skater, he would in a heartbeat, but you know for damn sure he would never be able to hang against all of those contest dudes.
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And then someone reposted this GH patreon video where he claps back at Pappalardo at 24:32
https://youtu.be/hvRe4DpNiPI
There’s some other good stuff in this vid like
GH’s thoughts on being called racist by Tyshawn
Phelps not liking T-Funk
Nak lobbying against T-Funk for soty bc he said the n word as a teenager
Damn i posted a story here about tfunk screaming the n-word at pedlow like 5 years ago. I hope that wasn't the one that made Nak do that. It also makes me wonder if Nak lurks here, seems unlikely
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
I knew this information but it completely escaped me. Not enough people talk about how corny all that east coast 90s straight edge hardcore was.
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
He’s not stereotypically black enough, I think. Criticize Nyjahs “fits” and you’re good, do the same with tyshawns clown ass apparel, and you might be racist.
You make a decent point, and I'm not disagreeing at all, but I actually think it's still OK to mock what TJ wears because a large portion of the population has eyes that work. And for those who can't see, a brief description of his outfit will most likely elicit a gas face.
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"SOTY and some thoughts of race" no thanks.
I'm sure a bunch of people arrived at the same joke, but I created a "NOT MY SOTY" meme with a very deep sense of irony, more about the reaction from people flipping their lids over who gets a magazine trophy than any vague accusations of racism. If anything, there's a class element at play, but we have no vocabulary for a conversation about class in America so I won't even bother with that. But obviously, the people who were upset, were upset that the other black guy didn't win, so you know, it's not really particularly racist.
I thought the inclusion of that meme was an interesting choice by Pappalardo. I've also seen that image of facebook rednecks with the same "NOT MY SOTY" caption on twitter and IG stories, so the joke was repeated out of context. I understood the image in its original context to have meant, like you said, skaters who were upset by the choice due to the relatively new formula for SOTY, or old heads that are just pissed and care too much. The meme is also in the article, but doesn't seem like there's any explanation as for why its included. Usually when an image is in a piece of writing the author takes a paragraph or two to explain why the image is there.
some thoughts on the article:
The Griner/Bout swap should have had more context to relate to the article. I'm not familiar with this topic, and it would have helped the author's case to provide more context. Some of the claims had me asking "why, who". Same as the Iranian Hostage Crisis. I guess Pappalardo cut out some explanation in favor of brevity since this is about SOTY, but since he's writing with skaters (largely young and uneducated) as an audience that's sort of more reason to include background. The author is making assumptions and neglecting the audience therefore weakening their argument.
I understand the Art comparison in this way. Consider the artwork Kritios boy.This work of art was known for introducing contrapposto, a relaxed natural way of standing that isn't stiff and rigid. Similar statues previously had a rigid style, meaning they stood up straight and stiff. There are numerous examples that lead up to Kritios boy, but Kritios boy was innovative. It's like skating. There is the canon of tricks (illegal/legal). Skaters and skate consumers are connoisseurs( knowledge of what makes a good skater/video). There is a collective agreed upon taste (similar to artists working within the parameters of taste determined by time and location of production/consumption). Skateboarders skate and dress within reason according to this frame of collective understanding, and this performance allows a skater to assimilate into skate media/culture. If one doesn't conform to this taste they're a kook (richie jackson. pirate pants and circus tricks. in reality clothing and trick selection is superficial and meaningless without context or precedence, but within context and the shared frame of understanding it becomes ridiculous and kook shit but it can still be considered the act of skateboarding). Tl;dr art is understood through a shared lens of looking that has been created and understood through repetition. small changes can make a large impact like someone doing a kick flip but down 30 stairs instead of 20 that change this frame of understanding.
I guess the kids versus art students comparison was used to illustrate connoisseurship. of course students have knowledge of precedence, but I think the point he's making is that art, or in this case skateboarding, is as good as the grounds from which it arises? Why does the author not care about awards? They don't really say.
The main argument seems to be addressing accusations that Tyshawn is lazy, which is fair to consider race due to the stereotype that black people are lazy and don't know what they're doing so they need white guidance to do things "correctly". Colonizer ass mentality that extends to indigenous people in America, or anyone with melanin. reading comments here I feel like some of y'all would be the type to deny that micro aggressions exist or understand racism to be only overt actions and comments instead of institutionalized, subconscious, and learned behavior.
as pointed out though, the inclusion of the weck opinion sort of falls flat due to weck vouching for another black man although weck isn't above making racist/sexist comments and has a history of saying dumbass stuff for attention. also who gives a fuck what weck has to say, but I guess a lot of people do since he has a following unfortunately.
some quick thoughts with coffee this morning. i agree about the untapped market for educated skaters. that mostly skateboarding podcast with the Smithsonian employee was pretty good. Although she didn't skate, hearing her talk about skateboarding through a museum perspective was interesting. She also knew some terminology and seemed to know her shit lol cool she was stoked on Gonz too
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Anthony Pappalardo is corny
Anthony Pappalardo is whack but Anthony Pappalardo definitely isn't.
Things You Are Stoked On But Not Stoked On: Anthony Pappalardo
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#NotMyAnthonyPappalardo
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#NotMyAnthonyPappalardo
Can this guy even switch flip
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he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
skate twitter
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That article was absolute trash. I'm all for thoughtful discourse that tries to dissect and understand different layers of stupid shit like SOTY. But this was entirely incoherent and any arguments in it fall apart with the slightest bit of consideration.
The Brittany Griner connection makes no sense, other than as another instance the author is desperately trying to shoehorn his obsession with race into. And in no way is the Brittany Griner ordeal comparable to the Iran hostage crisis - the scale, impact, or reaction isn't even close. Nobody in 50 years from now is going to be comparing anything to the Brittany Griner crisis of 2022, in obvious contrast to the Iran hostage crisis. It demonstrates the authors total lack of knowledge and context in seemingly anything.
The whole race baiting thing is really hard to backup when 3/4 of the SOTY contenders that are driving this apparently contentious conversation are minorities. Is it racist to think Nyjah, a black dude, didn't win? Is it racist to think Louie, a hispanic, should have won?
And then after waiting the whole article to get to a point, he goes with....."Tyshawn isn't lazy!" Huh!? Literally nobody is making that argument, if anything it's the opposite - some people seem upset that he seems so obsessed achieving his career and monetary goals.
The worst part is this Anthony Poppalardo clearly thinks he's pretty clever with his little skateboard newsletter. But he can neither write worth a damn, nor apparently can he think critically.
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I’m not reading that.
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#NotMyAnthonyPappalardo
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#NotMyAnthonyPappalardo
I clicked on this thread hoping it was the Pops we love but deep down I knew it was gonna be the writer.
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
I knew this information but it completely escaped me. Not enough people talk about how corny all that east coast 90s straight edge hardcore was.
The early to mid 90's east coast straight edge hardcore scene was gimmicky for sure. The exceptions for me personally were Youth of Today, Judge, and Gorilla Biscuits. And I'm not lumping all east coast hardcore into that, specifically the straight edge stuff.
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And then someone reposted this GH patreon video where he claps back at Pappalardo at 24:32
https://youtu.be/hvRe4DpNiPI
There’s some other good stuff in this vid like
GH’s thoughts on being called racist by Tyshawn
Phelps not liking T-Funk
Nak lobbying against T-Funk for soty bc he said the n word as a teenager
Damn i posted a story here about tfunk screaming the n-word at pedlow like 5 years ago. I hope that wasn't the one that made Nak do that. It also makes me wonder if Nak lurks here, seems unlikely
I don’t think they lurk here regularly but people close to them do. Tyshawn was reading comments from a thread one time on his IG Live. I’ve also googled skate related topics or names before and a SLAP thread would be one of the first few search results so that could lead them here as well.
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This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
The O.G Pops debate deepens if so.
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what a fried take
#NotMyPops
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Erntherny Perperlerder
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Erntherny Perperlerder
guffawing over here
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I do like Pappalardo's writing usually but without a doubt Gifted Hater is making more incisive, more salient, more well constructed points about skateboarding than almost anyone else right now. i don't care what format it's in, written, video whatever I am 1.5 million times more interested in what GH has to say
it's cool to occasionally see these skate twitter approved thinkpieces just absolutely shit the bed in the face of a Vlogger in a gaming chair who inserts the "bruh" sound effect every two minutes
(or maybe felt there was a strong chance he could monetize his opinion)
And what in the actual fuck was this little side swipe here??? isn't the point of a substack for people to hit the subscribe button? Pappalardew is trying to monetize his opinions too -- i have no idea how he thinks he has any high horse here
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and lastly I think I do agree with the general thrust of Tuff Tony's post here: That Tyshawn deserved it, and that it is fundamentally a subjective award that is not strictly merit based (and never has been). For thrasher to give it to the influencer who sells gaming PC's on his instagram and skates in LA Gym bro fits is just unthinkable. But Substack man's positioning against all the blowback and general distaste for any other opinion of who should have won is just really confusing
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he managed to successfully weave his way through a pretty solid word count without making any kind of sense.
impressive stuff. the art metaphor was especially crap.
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
I knew this information but it completely escaped me. Not enough people talk about how corny all that east coast 90s straight edge hardcore was.
No wonder this dude's writing is shit, the amount of brain power in the straight edge hardcore scene makes skateboarders seem like absolute geniuses in comparison...
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
I knew this information but it completely escaped me. Not enough people talk about how corny all that east coast 90s straight edge hardcore was.
No wonder this dude's writing is shit, the amount of brain power in the straight edge hardcore scene makes skateboarders seem like absolute geniuses in comparison...
i made this account well over a decade ago but of all things it is actually a reference to In My Eyes of all bands. somewhere there is a video of them playing and sweet pete screams out in the middle of a song “two words… STRAIGHT FUCKING EDGE!!!” and for some reason i thought that was so funny
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ah yes, an internet post with solutions to a problem that never existed in the first place. the millennial zeitgeist
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he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
skate twitter
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Total pen name to garner clout. They should play a game of skate to TM the name in the modern era.
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Just so I am clear, this Anthony Pappalardo is not the Anthony Pappalardo? This dork adopted Anthony Pappalardo as a fucking pen name?!
This guy was in Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes and now he thinks he’s a journalist.
I knew this information but it completely escaped me. Not enough people talk about how corny all that east coast 90s straight edge hardcore was.
No wonder this dude's writing is shit, the amount of brain power in the straight edge hardcore scene makes skateboarders seem like absolute geniuses in comparison...
i made this account well over a decade ago but of all things it is actually a reference to In My Eyes of all bands. somewhere there is a video of them playing and sweet pete screams out in the middle of a song “two words… STRAIGHT FUCKING EDGE!!!” and for some reason i thought that was so funny
Straight edge hardcore was definitely at its corniest in the 90s. It became way more self aware and introspective in the 00s
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you’re fried. earth crisis is a thousand times sicker than verse or have heart. if you’re gonna have a goofy rules based lifestyle you need militant music. it’s even weirder when it’s talking about feelings instead of about freeing all the animals in the zoo
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those bands definitely suck and earth crisis does not but bands like blank stare or coke bust are more up my alley than either of the aforementioned
definitely going off topic but only vaguely because the moron that wrote this article started one of the bands talked about
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
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This thread is nothing without vegan reich …
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you’re fried. earth crisis is a thousand times sicker than verse or have heart. if you’re gonna have a goofy rules based lifestyle you need militant music. it’s even weirder when it’s talking about feelings instead of about freeing all the animals in the zoo
lol no, the emotional hardcore of the 00s was waaayyy more honest than a bunch of goofy kids pretending they're in gangs
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why do so many threads on here devolve into arguments about hardcore music? cant we all just agree that hardcore music is the dorkiest of all possible scenes and get back on topic?
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Skateboarding is like music. Cool to experience in a recorded medium, but never enjoyable to read about.
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you’re fried. earth crisis is a thousand times sicker than verse or have heart. if you’re gonna have a goofy rules based lifestyle you need militant music. it’s even weirder when it’s talking about feelings instead of about freeing all the animals in the zoo
lol no, the emotional hardcore of the 00s was waaayyy more honest than a bunch of goofy kids pretending they're in gangs
brother i saw have heart. it was not a fun experience. trust me on this.
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you’re fried. earth crisis is a thousand times sicker than verse or have heart. if you’re gonna have a goofy rules based lifestyle you need militant music. it’s even weirder when it’s talking about feelings instead of about freeing all the animals in the zoo
lol no, the emotional hardcore of the 00s was waaayyy more honest than a bunch of goofy kids pretending they're in gangs
brother i saw have heart. it was not a fun experience. trust me on this.
lol so what? so did i. in a youth center in a country town. they went all out for like 30 people. it was on their last big international tour, they didn't have to go all out like that but they did.
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I do like Pappalardo's writing usually but without a doubt Gifted Hater is making more incisive, more salient, more well constructed points about skateboarding than almost anyone else right now. i don't care what format it's in, written, video whatever I am 1.5 million times more interested in what GH has to say
it's cool to occasionally see these skate twitter approved thinkpieces just absolutely shit the bed in the face of a Vlogger in a gaming chair who inserts the "bruh" sound effect every two minutes
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(or maybe felt there was a strong chance he could monetize his opinion)
And what in the actual fuck was this little side swipe here??? isn't the point of a substack for people to hit the subscribe button? Pappalardew is trying to monetize his opinions too -- i have no idea how he thinks he has any high horse here
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and lastly I think I do agree with the general thrust of Tuff Tony's post here: That Tyshawn deserved it, and that it is fundamentally a subjective award that is not strictly merit based (and never has been). For thrasher to give it to the influencer who sells gaming PC's on his instagram and skates in LA Gym bro fits is just unthinkable. But Substack man's positioning against all the blowback and general distaste for any other opinion of who should have won is just really confusing
Don’t forget the NFTs and crypto scams
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I don’t think one response agrees with his take. Making something about race, when it’s clearly not. Many straight up Nyjah haters feel he should have won. I kinda think Thrasher degraded their own award by choosing a more contrarian pick.
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some thoughts on race by tony gabagoolianzino
;D
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Camo
Cargo
Shorts
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
coke bust OR vaccine?
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I think if Nyjah wants to win something like SOTY has has to take a page outta the tried and true corny Hollywood actor/director page - like Matthew McConaughey doing True Detective, Adam Sandler doing Uncut Gems or Punchdrunk Love or similarly when a director does some Marvel films before going back to their passion projects.
If Nyjah got a stylist (lol) wore some big bois or just dressed like Ishod at least THEN put out a part with a bunch of slow mo NBD's at famous spots (as opposed to hitting stuff only he can mess with) then he could easily take out SOTY.
I don't really care either way but as an aside Leo Romero said it best years ago when he called him the villain of skateboarding wearing those black cape style long tees and everything
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
coke bust OR vaccine?
The better side of the split 😘
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#NotMyAnthonyPappalardo
What even is Anthony Pappalardo these days
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Wait is this fool just reading the slap boards to glean content to create opinion pieces?
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This dude is the worst and he needs to write under a different name…there’s only 1 anthony pappalardo in skateboarding. This kook needs to just go write op eds for lefty publications but he probably ain’t even good enough for them.
I was a Tyshawn guy myself although I wasn’t impressed by his short king part but then after Louie’s boring last part the choice was obvious. All the people mad about Tyshawn winning were butt hurt about Nyjah or Louie not winning including the people he cited. Unfortunately for him and his argument neither Nyjah or Louie are white so case fucking closed…stop looking for race in everything and comparing the Greiner deal to a skate award is laughable at best and offensive at worst…I just find it cringe but par for the course for the guy riding off the coat tails of having the same name as one of the east coast greats.
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
coke bust OR vaccine?
The better side of the split 😘
i remember seeing you guys a handful of times. notably the record release in DC, with punch, and with raw nerve
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tries to throw shade at GH trying to "monetize his opinion," when this dude is trying to do the same exact thing, albeit it in a way less entertaining and in a more pseudo intellectual way.
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We were way overdue for Popps identity confusion topic. I'm glad it was partially integrated into this thread.
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This switch ollie photo at the carwash is perfection.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BarGKMaAsxB/?hl=en
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
My man you can’t drop hardcore takes and whiff that reference.
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
My man you can’t drop hardcore takes and whiff that reference.
damn i had to google it. i fucked up big time
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
coke bust OR vaccine?
The better side of the split 😘
What about that Despise You split?
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this guy sucks so bad. he definitely wrote that and sat back and said "god damn i am so much smarter than everyone that will read this"
do people forget or just flat out not know that nyjah is black?
That proves he’s dumb because smart people don’t have to tell us they are smart
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I'm just commenting in here to say that I'm not gonna read that article
I tried. I really tried, but I don't have any clue what the fuck this dude is trying to say.
Honestly, trying to connect Griner, Carter, Biden, Tyshawn, and a bullshit award done by a magazine that was started to be propaganda for Independent Trucks is fucking absurd to me.
None of them deserve SOTY since none of them ride for Independent.
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Isn't there already a Hardcore thread somewhere on this board? Take your goofy little party over there, boys.
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Every time I read Pappalardo I’m stoked for a second…but again…its not the one I want to hear about!
What is Popps doing these days?i watch mosaic now…F the fake pappalardo
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I'm just commenting in here to say that I'm not gonna read that article
I tried. I really tried, but I don't have any clue what the fuck this dude is trying to say.
Honestly, trying to connect Griner, Carter, Biden, Tyshawn, and a bullshit award done by a magazine that was started to be propaganda for Independent Trucks is fucking absurd to me.
None of them deserve SOTY since none of them ride for Independent.
I want to believe
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Let's be real, hardcore music is cringe and the same as Incel core .
This article shows what straight edge does to a mf
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Wait is this fool just reading the slap boards to glean content to create opinion pieces?
skate twitter
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those bands definitely suck and earth crisis does not but bands like blank stare or coke bust are more up my alley than either of the aforementioned
definitely going off topic but only vaguely because the moron that wrote this article started one of the bands talked about
blank stare > every band mentioned here.
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I understand that racism is a real problem globally and American society especially is build on racism.
That hate culture in the digital world is straight stupid.
People shoud act and react behind the screen as in front of the person - with a minimum respect.
But the article was stupid.
Nyjah, Louie, TJ, Tristan and Tyshawn produce outstanding footage this year and all 5 gave enough reason for getting Thrasher SOTY.
Race and Hatespeach had nothing todo with the decision.
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that switch ollie photo really is sick. what are your fav switch ollies?
this one always stood out to me:
(https://coresites-cdn-adm.imgix.net/kingpin_new/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/jerry-hsu-sw-ollie-huge-dirt-gap-SEQ-copy-Whiteley-680x379.jpg?fit=crop&w=680&h=379)
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Has Burnett taken a vow of silence or something? When is he going to address the readers' concerns?
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Has Burnett taken a vow of silence or something? When is he going to address the readers' concerns?
Skate of the Union speech is usually in January
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
i saw the bassist from champion get knocked out by an FSU dude the only time they played philly. so much for promises kept lol
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coke bust are hella tight. vaccine was cool too
That’s my old band ;D
coke bust OR vaccine?
The better side of the split 😘
What about that Despise You split?
Despise You is better than both Coke Bust and certainly my old band. Played probably the hottest show of my life with them in Boston. Very fun.
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i had a bunch of hardcore friends in high school and theyre all either hike/mountain bike normies now or dead by their own hand long ago (the posers are still alive)
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Yea that was trash. What did Gravette say though?
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Yea that was trash. What did Gravette say though?
It was something like:
Someone should’ve told nyjah all he has to do is skating a flat gap and not these big rails
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
i saw the bassist from champion get knocked out by an FSU dude the only time they played philly. so much for promises kept lol
dude is a pedo so he had it coming
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Every time I read Pappalardo I’m stoked for a second…but again…its not the one I want to hear about!
What is Popps doing these days?i watch mosaic now…F the fake pappalardo
From the looks of it he’s receiving phone calls from his coworkers who get stoked whenever they run into a skateboarder that’s heard of him.
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I’m here for the hardcore. Soty is corny kids shit
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i had a bunch of hardcore friends in high school and theyre all either hike/mountain bike normies now
This part tracks.
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mountain biking is core and not normie
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mountain biking is core and not normie
I want to believe this but after 12 years in the bicycle industry, I assure you that it's not the case.
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
i saw the bassist from champion get knocked out by an FSU dude the only time they played philly. so much for promises kept lol
dude is a pedo so he had it coming
Nah that was the singer thats a pedo. The bassist was Andy Norton and he’s a pretty good dude.
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All love for paps.
Smdh, some of y’all have never been in a pit of equality and it shows.
https://youtu.be/8CPWHUYbv1s
https://youtu.be/yY1XBOdEyaQ
wtf is a pit of equality? all videos of in my eyes seem like it was 99% white kids in the pit
in my eyes were admittedly hella sick though. when i see 00s emotional hardcore earlier in the thread i was more referring to like american nightmare, modern life is war and champion rather than verse
i saw the bassist from champion get knocked out by an FSU dude the only time they played philly. so much for promises kept lol
dude is a pedo so he had it coming
Nah that was the singer thats a pedo. The bassist was Andy Norton and he’s a pretty good dude.
ah for some reason it didn't even register with me that you said bassist.
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i can not imagine in any situation why anybody would ever hit andy norton. if you don’t like him you are probably an asshole
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i can not imagine in any situation why anybody would ever hit andy norton. if you don’t like him you are probably an asshole
I was thinking the same thing.
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This could've been a really significant piece of writing about racism revealing itself in the SOTY 2022 race but the Other Pappalardo chose to go with square peg into round hole conflations (5th graders can't make art? Wtf is wrong with this dude?).
It is pretty crazy how SOTY became this sort of sports fan identity thing that skaters get so angry about.
Anyways, anyone calling Tyshawn lazy is a complete dummy.
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Here is my take on this dissection.
But before we get into that, I’d like to note that Dec 8, when SOTY was announced, GOTY, game of the year, was also announced.
Elden Ring took home the title, winning against God of War: Ragnarok, that had improved gameplay elements compared to the first game of the rebooted serie, such as more boss variety and new styles of play, but presented us with a more comedic tone throughout its tale, possibly as an attempt to avoid fatigue caused by its very lengthy storyline.
The improvements were still not made in vain, since the game won most awards given that day, just not GOTY itself.
Why am I mentioning this? God of War, the first game of the reboot, won Game of the Year in 2018, but didn't achieve a second victory, unlike Tyshawn Jones. And the big takeaway is: the award is racist, because God of War: Ragnarok had a black female love interest (Angrboda), while Elden Ring only had a blue lady (Ranni), who just like Nijah, according to "Pappalardo", isn't black enough.
This is how it felt to read whatever this shit was, I only managed to read half of it and I regret it.
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Here is my take on this dissection.
But before we get into that, I’d like to note that Dec 8, when SOTY was announced, GOTY, game of the year, was also announced.
Elden Ring took home the title, winning against God of War: Ragnarok, that had improved gameplay elements compared to the first game of the rebooted serie, such as more boss variety and new styles of play, but presented us with a more comedic tone throughout its tale, possibly as an attempt to avoid fatigue caused by its very lengthy storyline.
The improvements were still not made in vain, since the game won most awards given that day, just not GOTY itself.
Why am I mentioning this? God of War, the first game of the reboot, won Game of the Year in 2018, but didn't achieve a second victory, unlike Tyshawn Jones. And the big takeaway is: the award is racist, because God of War: Ragnarok had a black female love interest (Angrboda), while Elden Ring only had a blue lady (Ranni), who just like Nijah, according to "Pappalardo", isn't black enough.
This is how it felt to read whatever this shit was, I only managed to read half of it and I regret it.
hahahaha would gnar
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Here is my take on this dissection.
But before we get into that, I’d like to note that Dec 8, when SOTY was announced, GOTY, game of the year, was also announced.
Elden Ring took home the title, winning against God of War: Ragnarok, that had improved gameplay elements compared to the first game of the rebooted serie, such as more boss variety and new styles of play, but presented us with a more comedic tone throughout its tale, possibly as an attempt to avoid fatigue caused by its very lengthy storyline.
The improvements were still not made in vain, since the game won most awards given that day, just not GOTY itself.
Why am I mentioning this? God of War, the first game of the reboot, won Game of the Year in 2018, but didn't achieve a second victory, unlike Tyshawn Jones. And the big takeaway is: the award is racist, because God of War: Ragnarok had a black female love interest (Angrboda), while Elden Ring only had a blue lady (Ranni), who just like Nijah, according to "Pappalardo", isn't black enough.
This is how it felt to read whatever this shit was, I only managed to read half of it and I regret it.
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Here is my take on this dissection.
But before we get into that, I’d like to note that Dec 8, when SOTY was announced, GOTY, game of the year, was also announced.
Elden Ring took home the title, winning against God of War: Ragnarok, that had improved gameplay elements compared to the first game of the rebooted serie, such as more boss variety and new styles of play, but presented us with a more comedic tone throughout its tale, possibly as an attempt to avoid fatigue caused by its very lengthy storyline.
The improvements were still not made in vain, since the game won most awards given that day, just not GOTY itself.
Why am I mentioning this? God of War, the first game of the reboot, won Game of the Year in 2018, but didn't achieve a second victory, unlike Tyshawn Jones. And the big takeaway is: the award is racist, because God of War: Ragnarok had a black female love interest (Angrboda), while Elden Ring only had a blue lady (Ranni), who just like Nijah, according to "Pappalardo", isn't black enough.
This is how it felt to read whatever this shit was, I only managed to read half of it and I regret it.
it's the thought that counts
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So many words to say “I’ve interviewed him and think he’s cool, here’s my hot take on modern day skateboarding that I’m grossly disconnected from…”
Racism is in lots of places, but it wasn’t in SOTY discussions this year.
I wish they had’ve given it to Nyjah and just accepted that thrasher and skateboarding are now mainstream as fuck.
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when a mf spends too much time on twitter/ig and not the wooden toy
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I know y'all having fun out here talking shit and I am neither a tj nor a pappalardo the writer fan but you can be racist and still endorse black people
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I know y'all having fun out here talking shit and I am neither a tj nor a pappalardo the writer fan but you can be racist and still endorse black people
It's true, which I admit contradicts my earlier point. There have always been certain types of black people deemed "acceptable". Whether or not Tyshawn or Nyjah is this type of black person would have been more worthy of consideration, but I think a man with the last name of "Pappalardo" is probably not the best person to be contemplating black men's worthiness.
Reminds me of this classic Onion headline.
https://www.theonion.com/will-smith-the-black-man-everyone-at-work-can-agree-on-1819586690
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Some racist people will jump on Thrashers obvious bad choice here to dunk on a black man. It’s still a bad choice by Thrasher. Same way it’s still a bad choice by FA to turn Beatrice pro. If America weren’t so racist we could talk about these things without appearing to be on the side of racists, which honestly I’d rather not be agreeing with them even if it’s for different reasons
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Is this the one that was on aws?
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I have questions:
Who the fuck is this guy actually? Why does anyone, especially @Punished Skateboards in this case, read and/or post what he writes? Should we really care about his opinion? Should we all start posting random peoples opinions? No idea what my mum thinks about SOTY, but I could ask if you guys want that
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I have questions:
Who the fuck is this guy actually? Why does anyone, especially @Punished Skateboards in this case, read and/or post what he writes? Should we really care about his opinion? Should we all start posting random peoples opinions? No idea what my mum thinks about SOTY, but I could ask if you guys want that
He played bass in In My Eyes.
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I have questions:
Who the fuck is this guy actually? Why does anyone, especially @Punished Skateboards in this case, read and/or post what he writes? Should we really care about his opinion? Should we all start posting random peoples opinions? No idea what my mum thinks about SOTY, but I could ask if you guys want that
Thank you for asking.
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Fake Pappalardo is the type of person who tells everyone he's leaving Twitter on Twitter and then comes back a week later.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkKAsA6wEI
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Here is my take on this dissection.
But before we get into that, I’d like to note that Dec 8, when SOTY was announced, GOTY, game of the year, was also announced.
Elden Ring took home the title, winning against God of War: Ragnarok, that had improved gameplay elements compared to the first game of the rebooted serie, such as more boss variety and new styles of play, but presented us with a more comedic tone throughout its tale, possibly as an attempt to avoid fatigue caused by its very lengthy storyline.
The improvements were still not made in vain, since the game won most awards given that day, just not GOTY itself.
Why am I mentioning this? God of War, the first game of the reboot, won Game of the Year in 2018, but didn't achieve a second victory, unlike Tyshawn Jones. And the big takeaway is: the award is racist, because God of War: Ragnarok had a black female love interest (Angrboda), while Elden Ring only had a blue lady (Ranni), who just like Nijah, according to "Pappalardo", isn't black enough.
This is how it felt to read whatever this shit was, I only managed to read half of it and I regret it.
perfect. gnarred