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Skateboarding => PHOTOS/VIDEO => Topic started by: Natas Fauxas on December 17, 2022, 03:06:28 PM
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I didnt see a dedicated Ben Thread. If there is one please mods move this into that. I just thought it was rare because he had FS nose king Moses Itonken in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ks30BAB6fE
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I've honestly watched more of his drywall videos than his skate videos. The guy is nice with a trowel.
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I've honestly watched more of his drywall videos than his skate videos. The guy is nice with a trowel.
You arent wrong. Dude is multi faceted. I only thought the old heads would like to see Moses speak.
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Ben deserves better than calling his videos vlogs
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Ben deserves better than calling his videos vlogs
You are right just didnt know what to call it
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Ben, Moses, and FS nose slides are all things I like very much. Hadn't popped on YouTube today so thanks!
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We're long overdue for a dedicated Ben D thread
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
I like the setup. Its around a public tennis court. Force people to share the space.
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Big Vancouver Carpenter fan here.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
*pickleball courts*
I live 10 minutes away from that park, it's an absolute dream come true.
Moses donated the money to make sure that the park was concrete, had granite ledges, and that it stayed permanent rather than be a temporary solution.
the curb spot at the intro of the video is absolutely top tier too, I have basically retired there and couldn't be happier.
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Congrats on your beautiful new park. I might have to float some of these ideas to the city council / skatepark committee over here if anything ever gets moving.
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I'm late to Ben's vLogs. Stoked I've got years of vids to go through. Bummed Youtube has never suggested Vancouver Carpenter to me
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Vancouver Carpenter helped me fix my torn drywall paper, or whatever it's called.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
I was thinking the same as you guys.
Even though this one seems a tad narrow, a U shape around a tennis court (L in this case) seems like a great idea for budget/space limited skatepark projects.
Seems like it's pretty good for lines if it's not packed. Can't say that about many larger and more expensive parks.
I don't know anything about red dragon (or if this other guy is connected to them) but it seems like whenever I hear about them, it's because they're doing something positive for Canadian skating. Can anyone tell me more about them? Is it a skate shop or just a clothing brand?
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I only watched the one where he talked about his brother Ted (I honestly didn’t know they were related). It was actually pretty decent
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I only watched the one where he talked about his brother Ted (I honestly didn’t know they were related). It was actually pretty decent
DeGros has got to be the least common last name in skateboarding, just saying.
I'd like to see a video of him and Ted skating together, hopefully they got back home for Xmas and they get a session in.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
I was thinking the same as you guys.
Even though this one seems a tad narrow, a U shape around a tennis court (L in this case) seems like a great idea for budget/space limited skatepark projects.
Seems like it's pretty good for lines if it's not packed. Can't say that about many larger and more expensive parks.
I don't know anything about red dragon (or if this other guy is connected to them) but it seems like whenever I hear about them, it's because they're doing something positive for Canadian skating. Can anyone tell me more about them? Is it a skate shop or just a clothing brand?
mostly a clothing brand but they have some pro decks too (moses, hastie, sluggo, machnau). have been a long lasting canadian skate institution that have always been involved in supporting the scene in some way.
i knew right away when i saw that park RDS was involved as they have been donating and shipping those granite ledges across the country. we got one here in my city and they are perfect. after a summer it still has no chipping at all on the edges and it grinds and slides like a dream.
https://reddragon.ca/pages/rds-bench-application
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
Not that it can't be two things but I thought they just took the name from the book or the movie man hunter( prob more likely second option as they don't strike me as big readers)
As much as they may have helped skaters can't help but think it doesn't square up against whoever they "helped" at their church group conversions thing
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
Not that it can't be two things but I thought they just took the name from the book or the movie man hunter( prob more likely second option as they don't strike me as big readers)
As much as they may have helped skaters can't help but think it doesn't square up against whoever they "helped" at their church group conversions thing
Are the red dragons affiliated with jesus christ?
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
Not that it can't be two things but I thought they just took the name from the book or the movie man hunter( prob more likely second option as they don't strike me as big readers)
As much as they may have helped skaters can't help but think it doesn't square up against whoever they "helped" at their church group conversions thing
Are the red dragons affiliated with jesus christ?
"Jesus Christ of Red Dragons?"
Or maybe
"Red Dragons of Jesus Christ?"
But for real, if they're doing/supporting conversion therapy stuff, that's beyond whack. Hope that was at least a decade ago and they're not still doing it.
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The emblem was lifted from the book for sure once they started the store.
Let’s not get skate church mixed up with RDS….they are not related but if you’re in the Okanagan, it’s near impossible not to get mixed up into one of them.
By help, I mean sponsor or hired……
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Anyone know where this is? I'm assuming East Van somewhere or Burnaby
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If religions included this ledge as part of the afterlife deal, I probably would participate.
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
Not that it can't be two things but I thought they just took the name from the book or the movie man hunter( prob more likely second option as they don't strike me as big readers)
As much as they may have helped skaters can't help but think it doesn't square up against whoever they "helped" at their church group conversions thing
Are the red dragons affiliated with jesus christ?
"Jesus Christ of Red Dragons?"
Or maybe
"Red Dragons of Jesus Christ?"
But for real, if they're doing/supporting conversion therapy stuff, that's beyond whack. Hope that was at least a decade ago and they're not still doing it.
Cop the fuck on as if they are doing conversion therapy you idiot.
Some people are so fried on here.
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I think those benches are like 2 grand too which is pretty good for any city to invest in.
Red Dragons was a bunch of guys who grew up namely in North Van, the name was a joke making fun of local Asian gangs.
As they got older, they got rowdier, started a brand, a shop and a distributor which is what Moses runs. More people than any will admit to has been helped by them, but at the same time, the branding isn’t for everyone….
Not that it can't be two things but I thought they just took the name from the book or the movie man hunter( prob more likely second option as they don't strike me as big readers)
As much as they may have helped skaters can't help but think it doesn't square up against whoever they "helped" at their church group conversions thing
Are the red dragons affiliated with jesus christ?
"Jesus Christ of Red Dragons?"
Or maybe
"Red Dragons of Jesus Christ?"
But for real, if they're doing/supporting conversion therapy stuff, that's beyond whack. Hope that was at least a decade ago and they're not still doing it.
Cop the fuck on as if they are doing conversion therapy you idiot.
Some people are so fried on here.
Read my comment again. I wanted clarification based on what was said.
Due to our previous Vice President here being involved with gay conversation camps, and Chick-fil-A donating money to similar groups... I wouldn't be shocked (no pun intended) by some random Christian skateboard group being affiliated with that shit as well.
Fuck now I'm laughing at the thought of Sluggo himself running a conversion camp.
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1601 Forbes Ave, North Vancouver, BC V7M 2Y4
consider this park tracked
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Anyone know where this is? I'm assuming East Van somewhere or Burnaby
North Van, Mahon park.
oops too slow. It was in the description and you do live in the area though haha. I am jealous. Next time I'm on the mainland I gotta check it out.
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I believe it was in the Big brother interview in 94 that Moses referenced helping with a church group that ran "conversion" therapy type stuff. However by 2000 he talks of his religious upbringing in a Transworld interview and how he's moved away from it...so I guess that's where "are the "Red Dragons Christian" questions come from?
However I've never met the guy and am not from BC so don't have anything else to go on. Happy he was able to help get a nice looking park in - even without knowledge of tree root/dripline protection zones.
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/features/pro-spotlight-moses-itkonen/
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I believe it was in the Big brother interview in 94 that Moses referenced helping with a church group that ran "conversion" therapy type stuff. However by 2000 he talks of his religious upbringing in a Transworld interview and how he's moved away from it...so I guess that's where "are the "Red Dragons Christian" questions come from?
However I've never met the guy and am not from BC so don't have anything else to go on. Happy he was able to help get a nice looking park in - even without knowledge of tree root/dripline protection zones.
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/features/pro-spotlight-moses-itkonen/
Red Dragons' biggest sin was using a Backstreet Boys song in a skate video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VacQoGrfgZU&ab_channel=ThrasherMagazine
Sluggo was ahead of the curve with strength and conditioning for skateboarding
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
I was thinking the same as you guys.
Even though this one seems a tad narrow, a U shape around a tennis court (L in this case) seems like a great idea for budget/space limited skatepark projects.
Seems like it's pretty good for lines if it's not packed. Can't say that about many larger and more expensive parks.
I don't know anything about red dragon (or if this other guy is connected to them) but it seems like whenever I hear about them, it's because they're doing something positive for Canadian skating. Can anyone tell me more about them? Is it a skate shop or just a clothing brand?
mostly a clothing brand but they have some pro decks too (moses, hastie, sluggo, machnau). have been a long lasting canadian skate institution that have always been involved in supporting the scene in some way.
i knew right away when i saw that park RDS was involved as they have been donating and shipping those granite ledges across the country. we got one here in my city and they are perfect. after a summer it still has no chipping at all on the edges and it grinds and slides like a dream.
https://reddragon.ca/pages/rds-bench-application
Forgot to thank you for posting this link. I'm going to get in contact with RDS and our local skate shop/municipal government and see if I can get 2 of these things placed just down the road from our horrible crusty skatepark along the wide asphalt sidewalk. Just like the picture at the bottom of the link there. It might be greedy wanting 2 of them but I will pay out of pocket and fundraise the rest to cover the 2nd one since we have very little to skate in this sad town. I don't want to get my hopes up too much but I will be pretty fucking hyped if I can make this happen.
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Big Vancouver Carpenter fan here.
Same. I’m envious of bens skate and carpenter skills.
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he's a respectable dedicated skater with a really honest and practical opinion of the products and content he creates
that being said his view volumen have been steadily decreasing within the years...
maybe cause of the format or he just simply doesn't have potential to go viral/its too old for kids or something along those lines unfortunately.
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he's a respectable dedicated skater with a really honest and practical opinion of the products and content he creates
that being said his view volumen have been steadily decreasing within the years...
maybe cause of the format or he just simply doesn't have potential to go viral/its too old for kids or something along those lines unfortunately.
He makes his living with his Vancouver Carpenter channel (and it would seem a very good living, based on the house he now lives in). I think the skateboarding stuff is just for fun at this point, which is why he can sometimes go a month between new videos. And his tutorial videos on some basic tricks are more or less the definitive versions, and most have several hundred thousand views and I imagine that number grows regularly.
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I’m just hyped that he was an older dude that got really good at skating after slowing down for a while.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
This summer I showed up to the tennis court to play tennis - because I do that too. Right next to the courts is a half-court baskeball court and some kid had dragged a newish parking block onto it to skate. He got super nervous that I was looking at him, until I told him he really should rub-brick and paint the block, then proceeded to take him over to my car where I dug out the rub brick, paint and wax for him to use.
Share the space.
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That park looks incredible and was probably 1/3 the cost of most skateparks.
This summer I showed up to the tennis court to play tennis - because I do that too. Right next to the courts is a half-court baskeball court and some kid had dragged a newish parking block onto it to skate. He got super nervous that I was looking at him, until I told him he really should rub-brick and paint the block, then proceeded to take him over to my car where I dug out the rub brick, paint and wax for him to use.
Share the space.
Good work
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I've honestly watched more of his drywall videos than his skate videos. The guy is nice with a trowel.
I just realized I watched a bunch of his drywall videos before I found his skate videos and never connected the dots until now.
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That ledge is a thing of beauty. Ben DeGros has always put out awesome content and does deserve his own thread.
Thanks for the post.
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
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He seems like a good guy indeed. I identify with people like him.
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If I need to buckle down and get some work done I'll load up a bunch of his truck and wheel review videos as background noise. It's a familiar voice and the sound of wheels rolling, a tail being popped, flips being caught, ledges / rails getting grinded and slid is ASMR for me.
Then I lose focus on my task, and rewatch parts of the video, then contemplate if I should give Spitfire Classics or Tablets another go.
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If I need to buckle down and get some work done I'll load up a bunch of his truck and wheel review videos as background noise. It's a familiar voice and the sound of wheels rolling, a tail being popped, flips being caught, ledges / rails getting grinded and slid is ASMR for me.
Then I lose focus on my task, and rewatch parts of the video, then contemplate if I should give Spitfire Classics or Tablets another go.
I will post all his vids here if thats what the people want. Is there a dedicated Ben video thread?
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Is there a dedicated Ben video thread?
You're here, my friend.
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Well shit glad i created it then. Ill put every new one that comes up here for yall to enjoy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESiWVBVP9LE
And away we go! He dont miss.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESiWVBVP9LE
And away we go! He dont miss.
Ben has all that stuff so dialed it’s funny watching him change his setup completely and it has no impact negatively or positively on what he’s doing.
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He was like the rails are messing me up then at the end does the same shit like 5 times in a row flawless. Bless him lol
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It's like he read my mind. I've been wanting to change my setup to a curb setup.
I was just back watching his truck videos too. Been following him forever now because he's top quality.
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The only celebrity I care about. I just want him to adopt me. I'd even live under the ramp on the tennis court
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Ben's skatepark > The Berrics
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Any relation to Ted?
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Any relation to Ted?
His brother.
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His brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3on2xRnsZdk&ab_channel=J%C3%B8rgenJohannessen
So glad my friend introduced me to North after downloading it off Limewire in the mid 2000s. On rewatch the music is a tad melodramatic for how smooth his skating is, but RJD2 was on heavy rotation in my late teens / early 20s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EBJyNlye1w
Ted looked like he was more naturally gifted on the board than Ben, but who would have guess Ben would have had a late career resurgence instead of Ted. Wish Ted had a longer career after Alien Workshop and Santa Cruz.
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I watched North like CRAZY when that first came out and was a huge fan of Ted throughout his career. so cool he has a mini section on Mosaic which was also one of my favorite videos of all time. it was kinda like how Appleyard had a mini section for his introduction to habitat on photosynthesis :)
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I watched North like CRAZY when that first came out and was a huge fan of Ted throughout his career. so cool he has a mini section on Mosaic which was also one of my favorite videos of all time. it was kinda like how Appleyard had a mini section for his introduction to habitat on photosynthesis :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLcgVPQv7ZM&ab_channel=adonis699
Didn't watch North 2 end to end as much but I've watch Tony Ferguson's part so many times, pairs so well with Steely Dan. The KFBSTS 270 out is just *chefs kiss*.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3on2xRnsZdk&ab_channel=J%C3%B8rgenJohannessen
So glad my friend introduced me to North after downloading it off Limewire in the mid 2000s. On rewatch the music is a tad melodramatic for how smooth his skating is, but RJD2 was on heavy rotation in my late teens / early 20s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EBJyNlye1w
Ted looked like he was more naturally gifted on the board than Ben, but who would have guess Ben would have had a late career resurgence instead of Ted. Wish Ted had a longer career after Alien Workshop and Santa Cruz.
It's also odd how over half of the soundtrack to the rest of North is from Eligh, Gandalf's Beat Machine 1 and 2... I was really into Living Legends, G&E, and Grouch and Elighs solo work at that time but I was never too fond of those digital beat compalation albums.
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this was my first introduction to ted degros after receiving a copy of monke madness at slam city jam when I purchased a god awful monke deck. I was new to skating and had no clue that boards came in different sizes, I think I got a 7.4 and it was brutal. the video made up for it though because it had great parts from ted and russ Milligan, and a pretty awesome friends section.
I think ted is like 15-16 during this video? not totally sure how to embed Vimeo but it's worth a watch if you're a ted fan.
https://vimeo.com/98234102
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz4Iyd7_gCw
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It's always a pleasure to see and hear the gearmadness! I call it techfire for 40+ :)
*mmmh his suggestions plus my personal techfire. Fits*
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His channel is a documentary on full blown gear madness and I'm loving every minute of it.
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His channel is a documentary on full blown gear madness and I'm loving every minute of it.
That’s all it is. I think even he admitted in a recent video that none of it matters cause he usually lands all his tricks. The only thing that matters to me is trucks and wheels. Anything 8.25-8.6 with a 14.25-14.5 wheelbase and a medium concave works for me. But I need Indys and F4s on my main setup.
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
https://youtu.be/jYmNUY46P3Y
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
He mentions alcohol too. I know some folks don’t view weed smokers as addicts, but they can be if they’re smoking everyday and putting off their responsibilities to do so. Which he admits to doing. Glad he kicked the habit. Skating high sounds like a nightmare to me. I hate to see pros glorifying it.
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
He actually mentions being addicted to "heavy drugs" in multiple videos. He never specified it further though
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
He actually mentions being addicted to "heavy drugs" in multiple videos. He never specified it further though
Okay, that makes sense too. Which makes his recovery even the more impressive. He probably could’ve been better than his bother if he never did all that stuff.
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
I saw a post on the alt-insta account of Kader's where the caption said something like tapped out finally. And he had a story showing he hadn«t smoked for 15 days or something
Guess we'll have to wait and see the transformation. How much more beast can he be???
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
I saw a post on the alt-insta account of Kader's where the caption said something like tapped out finally. And he had a story showing he hadn«t smoked for 15 days or something
Guess we'll have to wait and see the transformation. How much more beast can he be???
Lol nice! I know a bunch of pros do it, so I wasn’t trying to come down hard on him. It’s just that he’s still young and hasn’t peaked yet. I think the youngins should save the weed until their mid 30s and washed up 😂
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
He actually mentions being addicted to "heavy drugs" in multiple videos. He never specified it further though
Yeah, I was going to mention this but wasn't sure I remembered it correctly and didn't want to slander a good man's name. Ben has obviously always been a talented skater but not sure substances held him back necessarily. I think Ted was just a natural prodigy type. That's in regard to one of OhioGuy's posts also since I'm getting a little squirrely with my replies and am dealing with my own addictions...
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
He actually mentions being addicted to "heavy drugs" in multiple videos. He never specified it further though
Yeah, I was going to mention this but wasn't sure I remembered it correctly and didn't want to slander a good man's name. And Ben has obviously always been a talented skater but not sure substances held him back necessarily. I think Ted was just a natural prodigy type.
Yeah that could be true. And either way, Ben seems to be doing well. I ran into his skate videos first then was surprised to see he had a carpentry channel with 400k subscribers 😲
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Why are Ben's videos such a warm cozy safety net? Why are they such sweet lullabies. I am traumatized. But why do I need to hear the voice of a well mannered skate man to calm me down. Why am I here. :(
I think it’s his voice partially. He’s very calm and measured and seems like a genuinely good person who’s been through some shit and come out the other end better
Yeah, I appreciate how frank he is about having been a drug addict and getting clean.
where does he talk about this stuff?
Beat me to it lol
Pressed post and here it was
From what I remember he only did weed but I watched that video long ago so I might be wrong
Like someone like Kader is amazing, but I think he’d be better if he didn’t smoke and trained like an athlete. Young skaters should take care of their bodies.
He actually mentions being addicted to "heavy drugs" in multiple videos. He never specified it further though
Yeah, I was going to mention this but wasn't sure I remembered it correctly and didn't want to slander a good man's name. Ben has obviously always been a talented skater but not sure substances held him back necessarily. I think Ted was just a natural prodigy type. That's in regard to one of OhioGuy's posts also since I'm getting a little squirrely with my replies and am dealing with my own addictions...
Rooting for you. You've got this.
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Ben's checking out Nyjah's board shape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRcNFchXcs
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Ben's checking out Nyjah's board shape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRcNFchXcs
Just came to post this.
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Don’t know why anyone would be shocked that Nyjah’s boards are good lol. This isn’t aimed at Ben, just at the Nyjah haters. Of course his gear is legit. Look at the shit he does 😅
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Disorder team video, boards, and graphics are better than King at this point. Joke is on the SOTY winner.
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He's skating so well these days!
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How does a flat, skinnyish PS board not just snap immediately? Guess it's about talent.
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The Quasi Proto is a flat PS board and the two I had lasted forever it felt.
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Love how he checks the pitch on the kicks. What a legend
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dudes flatground is impeccable, must be so nice to land that many tricks especially at that age, so many of them looked so effortless too and this guy was injured not that long ago
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It's pretty funny to be constantly obsessing about every little detail of your setup and then just be able to hop onto any board with any trucks and do a switch tre.
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I think there's a lesson for all of us in your last statement. I've got a friend that's about Ben's ability levels except younger and doesn't skate as much anymore. Was humbling the day we hopped on my board in Adidas running shoes and busted out a popped nollie tre first try and then said "your board feels great, trucks are a bit off"
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look at erick winkowski setup. cant tell me that is optimal and that guy shreds. pro af. wearing emericas too haha.
he would skate way better on nigel's setup! but that is part of his appeal i think is that he is like this old soul in a young dudes body type thing.
i watched corey duffell get pins pulled out of his toes on instragram this morning. he said a lot was a result of bad footwear
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look at erick winkowski setup. cant tell me that is optimal and that guy shreds. pro af. wearing emericas too haha.
he would skate way better on nigel's setup! but that is part of his appeal i think is that he is like this old soul in a young dudes body type thing.
i watched corey duffell get pins pulled out of his toes on instragram this morning. he said a lot was a result of bad footwear
Duffel’s fucked up feet deserve a thread of their own.
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How does a flat, skinnyish PS board not just snap immediately? Guess it's about talent.
He's pretty slim and also its his first session on it from the looks of it. PS usually start sogging out by 2nd or 3rd session. He could also be skating one of the good ones from the batch.
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Disorder team video, boards, and graphics are better than King at this point. Joke is on the SOTY winner.
No lies. That’s just a statement of fact, at this time. I’d like to see King come together into something, but (like Brick) it seems to be just drifting along without any structure, product, team or cohesion bigger than a general idea. I hope that changes, but it seems just as likely to just go nowhere for years, until TJ drops his next batch of bangers and wins SOTY again in 4 years time. I’m not even saying Disorder is great, but at least they have product, brand, identity, team and shapes etc. I’m a fan of Tyshawn skating for sure, but King compared to disorder makes Nyjah look like a marketing business genius.
The Quasi Proto is a flat PS board and the two I had lasted forever it felt.
I also get a lot of life out of my PS Quasi too, they last me longer than BBS (which obviously isn’t everyone experience, but its the case for me). There’s the initial breaking in, then days when it feels soft/almostcracked, and then it really comes into its own and last for weeks, even months actually.
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https://youtu.be/DJmlgMMTevE
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https://youtu.be/DJmlgMMTevE
Looks like the madness has returned. Poor Ben 😖
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https://youtu.be/DJmlgMMTevE
Just got this in my suggestions and came to post but you beat me to it. The madness is real but I love it. I’ve been debating dropping my set up down a bit lately and this might have just sealed the deal for me.
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Just got this in my suggestions and came to post but you beat me to it. The madness is real but I love it. I’ve been debating dropping my set up down a bit lately and this might have just sealed the deal for me.
I switched my trucks so much in some decks that the hardware holes are a little sunk in. So I’ve just decided to keep my setups as they are until the deck is destroyed. The truck madness never ends. I own Indy, Ace, Krux, and Thunder and refuse to try any more brands. Just gonna stick to 159 Indys on 8.5 boards for my main setups. All the time spent switching stuff could be spent skating and improving lol
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Just got this in my suggestions and came to post but you beat me to it. The madness is real but I love it. I’ve been debating dropping my set up down a bit lately and this might have just sealed the deal for me.
Venture are the best. Try them
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https://youtu.be/DJmlgMMTevE
Just got this in my suggestions and came to post but you beat me to it. The madness is real but I love it. I’ve been debating dropping my set up down a bit lately and this might have just sealed the deal for me.
Venture are the best. Try them
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Stop planting madness seeds in my mind! Lol, not gonna lie, I thought about it after seeing the Kader ones. Maybe one day. I think it’s safe to say I’ll never be an Ace guy. Ben sets a lot of stuff up and I’ve noticed he rarely uses Aces either.
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Other than the deck, Ben and I have I think functionally identical setups. 51mm Spitfire 99 classics, Quantum bearings, Venture Lows. I love it, and the Lows are always on super sale everywhere because no one wants them.
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Am i the only one who waves back and says “bye ben” every time he waves and says “bye guys” at the end of every video
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Am i the only one who waves back and says “bye ben” every time he waves and says “bye guys” at the end of every video
Lol, probably not. I don’t personally do it 😅
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https://ibb.co/7WybCXz
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Other than the deck, Ben and I have I think functionally identical setups. 51mm Spitfire 99 classics, Quantum bearings, Venture Lows. I love it, and the Lows are always on super sale everywhere because no one wants them.
If they ever stop making venture lows I'll be devastated.
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Other than the deck, Ben and I have I think functionally identical setups. 51mm Spitfire 99 classics, Quantum bearings, Venture Lows. I love it, and the Lows are always on super sale everywhere because no one wants them.
If they ever stop making venture lows I'll be devastated.
If they ever made 5.6 LO in forged and cast I'll have an explosion in my pants.
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Nice! We’re stoked he loves our bearings.
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Ben is sick.
I started watching in the beginning too. I think he was talking about able friendship board with a snoopy graphic.
Then he spoke his experience strength and hope in one video and I felt like he was talking about me almost.
I back Ben. he's 100% skater and a survivor of substance abuse.
Ventures are the best.
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Ben threw me off with the switch to venture lows. Last pair of venture lows I had were some 5.2 low hollows some years back. This really made me wanna try em out again especially now that DLX has the true fit mold
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He couldn’t even keep his wheels and trucks on for the length of the video haha. Also for someone so specific about their gear, I cringed at him gripping over the warning sticker.
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He couldn’t even keep his wheels and trucks on for the length of the video haha. Also for someone so specific about their gear, I cringed at him gripping over the warning sticker.
And the Cliver signature.
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He couldn’t even keep his wheels and trucks on for the length of the video haha. Also for someone so specific about their gear, I cringed at him gripping over the warning sticker.
Warning stickers off. Always.
(as well as BBS' little holo leaf)
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I can never get the stickers off under the baseplates of new trucks without a solvent of some kind so I'm left with the thinnest riser pads ever
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If you've watched his channel long enough you'd know he's already been on low/small setups several times only to go back to something bigger. I guarantee he will claim the Venture lo only work on this shape and the next one will require something else and he missed X so now he's back on 8.25" trucks.
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Fan boys?
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Is Ben related to Ted?
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Is Ben related to Ted?
Yes, Ted is his younger brother afaik
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Some days I regret finding Ben’s channel lol. He passed down his madness to me, and taught me so much, things I now wish to forget 😂
Jokes aside, it’s amazing hearing Pros say they never really thought about WB. Some of it might seem mental, but I can feel the difference between 14 and 14.5, especially as a taller rider.
I guess it doesn’t matter to lots of pros cause most of them seem average height. Like I heard one say, “I skate 8 cause that’s my shoe size.” Must be nice 🤣
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I'm just stoked I'm not the only one with alternating madness. lol I'm back on 8.25 FA and 144 indys. I'm sure by summer I'll be all over the place again. At least I think I've narrowed it down to ventures and indys when it comes to the truck madness. 7/8" Shortys Silverados for life! That is non-negotiable.
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Fan boys?
lmfao i was DYING laughing this morning when i saw that and still trying to contain my laughter at work
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Yes, Ted is his younger brother afaik
yes it is his brother 100% who was on NORTH 1, Mosaic, Stange Brew, Yesterday's Future
It's funny cause I remember getting into huge madness when i was trying to buy guitar stuff a long time ago. I went down such a rabbit hole it all just started to become overwhelming and numbing to think about.
I definintely have some madness for skateboards but I am very particular in what I like and I feel like I have everything exactly how I want it:
i have 4 different setups;
8" with Ventures, 50mm Bones STF (flip trick setup)
8.5" with Thunders, 53mm Spitfire F4 (all around setup that i mostly use)
8.75" with Indy's, 56mm OJ 95a (Rough Spots ATV)
9" Egg with Aces, 47mm Bones STF (Curb Crusher)
now I just mess around with the wheelbases to try to get them to match what I would want them to be like for that purpose. Basically since I have stumpy legs, I want short wheel bases on all my boards except the ATV. as the parts wear out I will switch them (Like when the OJs wear out I will want dragons for sure on that setup).
I have rode all these setups for extended periods of time so in that sense I am not really that "mad" I kind of just have certain ones for certain spots that I like better. I rode the ATV for about 6 months and i could still do 3 flips on it, but it definitely feels a lot harder than when i use the 8" board or even the 8.5". the shape is very goofy but i feel like it has more to do with the wheelbase being so long than the pockets. i remember whne I first got this board it felt so weird the timing of when the nose hit the floor on a nollie or fakie trick it felt super fucked and i just missed the floor entirely sometimes
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I back Ben. he's 100% skater and a survivor of substance abuse.
Really? This surprises me seeing he was married with kids at 25.
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Really? This surprises me seeing he was married with kids at 25.
https://youtu.be/v39otsFpj5c
a great episode imo worth the watch, but if tl;dw he says basically "i got into all the worst drugs in all the worst ways" he doesnt really dive into much more detail than that and says he got clean a long time ago. <3
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I back Ben. he's 100% skater and a survivor of substance abuse.
Really? This surprises me seeing he was married with kids at 25.
Think he started young like a lot of skaters and got clean in his early 20s. People be out here living fast when they’re basically babies. It’s wild.
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yeah where i am from smaller town seems like people are a lot less mature / grow up a lot slower than people from the big city. you see a lot more shit i guess, you grow up a lot faster as a result.
I am just watching his video now to learn how to fix a massive hole in my drywall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L0EuDjd0fw
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https://instagram.com/stories/giftedhater/3024565634018308186?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=
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Ben back on the gram?!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWahZzWCz04&t=1
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https://youtu.be/U_NLOdoEbP4
Are we at a point where skateboarding is like comedy and people are gonna start doing vlogger tours like how comedians go to la and do all the podcasts?
Also how olds dan? How'd he never see a nollie front heel like that
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Dan gets a lot of hate but the ledge line he does at 6:50 legit, love a good BS Nosegrind pop out mid ledge
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Only ben can make me watch dan corrigan and also the nine club if he actually gets on.
He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
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Only ben can make me watch dan corrigan and also the nine club if he actually gets on.
He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
Now that would be great. I know most folks hate YouTubers, but I’d like to see a few of them like Ben on there. Hell, I’d even watch Kyro if he appeared on there. Sure he’s a kook, but Braille has gotten a lot of kids into skateboarding. I guarantee there will be a young pro one day that will give him a shoutout lol 😂
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Ben is also in the other Corrigan video with Daewon in the thumbnail.
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https://youtu.be/U_NLOdoEbP4
Are we at a point where skateboarding is like comedy and people are gonna start doing vlogger tours like how comedians go to la and do all the podcasts?
Also how olds dan? How'd he never see a nollie front heel like that
It was crazy to hear Dan say "glad I got a thumbnail", weird as hell to hear that in relation to Ben
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dan corrigan is a desperate cornball
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Poor Ben goes all the way to LA and gets sandbagged by Dan
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Ben is a good sport. I honestly think he’s better than the typical skate YouTubers and working with them is a little beneath him, but what the hell do I know? He clearly doesn’t take himself too seriously. I just prefer his dad humor over the cringe stuff from the average Skatetuber.
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that video made me actually like dan a bit more. he talks too mcuh on his videos though, he repeats himself tons and should get more to the point. the 2 or 3 that i have clicked i couldnt get through more than a minute or two without fast forwarding. i fastforwarded most of the daewon video. i feel like ben talks the perfect amount and mixes it up just enough with the skate clips.
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Only Ben can work with Gifted Hater and Dan Corrigan and be fully himself in each instance.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CoG_iBaOD_c/?igshid=ZDFmNTE4Nzc=
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Was not digging the repeated extreme close ups of Dan's teeth
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CoG_iBaOD_c/?igshid=ZDFmNTE4Nzc=
Should just get him to make a bunch of decks to his liking, but knowing Ben he’d get tired of them after a few sessions and the madness would return 🤣
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Only ben can make me watch dan corrigan and also the nine club if he actually gets on.
He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
I wonder if Ben will get an interview in Thrasher eventually. He seems university respected enough for something like that.
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He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
I wonder if Ben will get an interview in Thrasher eventually. He seems university respected enough for something like that.
Would be cool. Do they ever interview YouTubers?
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He really does feel university respected!
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Sometimes I sit and ponder the pure enormity of the university. A humbling experience.
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He really does feel university respected!
Heard Professor Schmitt put in a good word for him at the university for an honorary doctorate
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Only ben can make me watch dan corrigan and also the nine club if he actually gets on.
He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
I wonder if Ben will get an interview in Thrasher eventually. He seems university respected enough for something like that.
the interview dan corrigan.
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I assume he will probably be on the nine club, would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
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He's a geeky skaterat.I like his vids despite he looks kinda lonely with his cam and tripod.He also has a "Flanders" look and overacts his bails all the time which is really annoying...
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I assume he will probably be on the nine club, would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
Finally, an episode worth tuning in for!
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I assume he will probably be on the nine club, would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
Finally, an episode worth tuning in for!
Ooooo I hope you're right @rocklobster
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would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
Have you ever spent January in Vancouver?
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would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
Have you ever spent January in Vancouver?
Lol, I’m in Ohio and I fly out there just to hang out with Dan and I can’t stand him 😂
It’s cold here!
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After watching one of his carpentry videos I realised that the tennis court he skates is actually his private skatepark out the back of his house! Does he talk about this anywhere?
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After watching one of his carpentry videos I realised that the tennis court he skates is actually his private skatepark out the back of his house! Does he talk about this anywhere?
Not that I’m aware of. I always wondered why no one else is ever there besides his filmer.
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After watching one of his carpentry videos I realised that the tennis court he skates is actually his private skatepark out the back of his house! Does he talk about this anywhere?
Not that I remember, but it’s worth considering that he has half a million YouTube subscribers between his channels and I’m not sure I’d want half a million people to know where I live.
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After watching one of his carpentry videos I realised that the tennis court he skates is actually his private skatepark out the back of his house! Does he talk about this anywhere?
Not that I remember, but it’s worth considering that he has half a million YouTube subscribers between his channels and I’m not sure I’d want half a million people to know where I live.
Yeah in a few of his vids ppl have asked about it in the comments and he's responded before saying he dosen't like talking about it or giving any info "out of respect to the owner and neighbors" or something along those lines. So not sure it's his, but a close buddy of his that lets him skate it whenever as long as it stays private im guessing, looks like my dream backyard, literally every obstacle I would want and a perfect mini, so jealous haha.
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In one of his most recent carpentry videos he shows you around his new house/workshop. When he's in the yard you can clearly see the tennis court at the bottom. He did say he's renting though. The house looks massive so that ad money must be pretty good.
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In one of his most recent carpentry videos he shows you around his new house/workshop. When he's in the yard you can clearly see the tennis court at the bottom. He did say he's renting though. The house looks massive so that ad money must be pretty good.
oh really? don't subscribe to his VC page but that makes more sense now- crazy he's allowed to build a skatepark in the backyard of a house he's renting tho
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In one of his most recent carpentry videos he shows you around his new house/workshop. When he's in the yard you can clearly see the tennis court at the bottom. He did say he's renting though. The house looks massive so that ad money must be pretty good.
I don't keep up on his VC videos but I sort of assumed that they bought a bigass house which needs renovation and he's doing the work himself and filming it for content. Whatever the story is, a house with a tennis court in Vancouver isn't cheap, so yeah I'd say that YouTube is paying out for him.
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Probably a combo of YouTube ad rev from the carpentry channel and being a self employed contractor. Trades pay nice if you’re the boss and Vancouver has no shortage of people with money renovating houses.
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would he really fly to california just to hang out with gifted hater and dan corrigan?
Have you ever spent January in Vancouver?
It’s cold here!
username checks out.
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After watching one of his carpentry videos I realised that the tennis court he skates is actually his private skatepark out the back of his house! Does he talk about this anywhere?
Not that I remember, but it’s worth considering that he has half a million YouTube subscribers between his channels and I’m not sure I’d want half a million people to know where I live.
Yeah in a few of his vids ppl have asked about it in the comments and he's responded before saying he dosen't like talking about it or giving any info "out of respect to the owner and neighbors" or something along those lines. So not sure it's his, but a close buddy of his that lets him skate it whenever as long as it stays private im guessing, looks like my dream backyard, literally every obstacle I would want and a perfect mini, so jealous haha.
i found it and sent him an email about it. a big part of why he wants it private is because of the noise for the neighbors. didnt say whether or not it was his property but id assume so.
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Nice I always wanted to know the exact dimensions of the courthouse stage ledge, was kinda curious about the normal ledges too.
Ben has some pretty good stuff in this Cornygan vid too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcumD32A-Kc
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Nice I always wanted to know the exact dimensions of the courthouse stage ledge, was kinda curious about the normal ledges too.
Ben has some pretty good stuff in this Cornygan vid too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcumD32A-Kc
Wow thanks for the recommendation I love seeing Ben skate
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Ben seems to be skating better than ever on his skatecation. I guess everyone just gets better when you go to California. That spot with the 3 stairs and ledges looks fun. I wish I had good tall guy style too :(
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
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It’s tone…….maturity….
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
He tries to convey actual info based on experimentation and an obsessive brain, which is relatable to a lot skaters, "core" or not. He also seems like a genuinely nice dude.
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
Ben has a smooth, easy-going charisma which is completely absent in the handful of skate YouTubers I've seen. Watching Ben is more like watching Norm Abram doing "Old Yankee Workshop" than it is spending a day with some goober in a helmet recording himself with a selfie stick.
It doesn't hurt that he actually rips and comes from a skate scene and skate culture which we all know and recognize.
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
Ben has a smooth, easy-going charisma which is completely absent in the handful of skate YouTubers I've seen. Watching Ben is more like watching Norm Abram doing "Old Yankee Workshop" than it is spending a day with some goober in a helmet recording himself with a selfie stick.
It doesn't hurt that he actually rips and comes from a skate scene and skate culture which we all know and recognize.
Yeah, "easy going" is a good way of putting it.
Ben is older and has no delusions of thinking he is going to go pro, whereas just about every other skate YouTuber has some weird aspiration to be pro while bypassing the traditional route(s). So no need for a goofy schtick or anything. Also, watching his brother go through the industry probably disabused him of the idea that it is this cool, glamorous thing to be pro.
He really does just seem like an easygoing person who genuinely enjoys skating and bearing his (very relatable) gear madness to the world.
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
Um, because he’s also a fucking kook! Just a cool one. Lol, I love Ben, but dude’s has been battling full on gear madness and documenting it to us for years. He’s just not cringe like the others, but he’s not normal. So I’m not shocked that he’s popular 😀
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I'm sure to some he is a kook but he lines up with what we all like so he isn't to us. He gets a little goofy sometimes but if you already like him it wouldn't be a problem. Him being a bit older I think works too because you naturally assume he knows what he's talking about (and obviously he actually does which helps lol).
I think with other youtubers this same affect happens with their teenager fanbase. https://youtu.be/GXrxmhTC2u0 I'm old enough that a couple mins of this is like wtf are you even going on about but I'm sure kids probably think it's all fact
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I can never get the stickers off under the baseplates of new trucks without a solvent of some kind so I'm left with the thinnest riser pads ever
If I'm setting up indoors I always clean the top of my board of all potential oils and or contaminates. It's definitely a madness but whatever. The bigger the ritual the better the experience maybe.
I never use a razor. I always grind the grip off with a metal piece or a file. That's like a red top situation. I'll use my truck if I gotta before I razor my boards.
Also I haven't seen any John Hill in a grip. What's up with him? I feel like he might be on the cusp of a midlife crisis.
Also all YouTubers are on some re set shit. Telling the origin story but in a negative context.
Negativity is trending. Beef trending. There's a war in Europe. John Hill should go back to being Terminally Positive. Or was that Dale's ingredient causing the giddy?
I fucking dislike thps. That game made a bunch of Marblehead people just stop skating. Some never came back.
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My first question was how is Ben the only non-kook skate youtuber. But then it hit me that you actually have to act like a kook in order to get views from the majority of people. The average person is a fucking kook.
So the real question is, how did Ben manage to do it without acting like a kook? He has almost as many subscribers as Dan Corrigan, without all the annoying bullshit that caters to 12 year olds.
I love Ben
Ben has a smooth, easy-going charisma which is completely absent in the handful of skate YouTubers I've seen. Watching Ben is more like watching Norm Abram doing "Old Yankee Workshop" than it is spending a day with some goober in a helmet recording himself with a selfie stick.
It doesn't hurt that he actually rips and comes from a skate scene and skate culture which we all know and recognize.
Ben videos work as asmr
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I'm sure to some he is a kook but he lines up with what we all like so he isn't to us. He gets a little goofy sometimes but if you already like him it wouldn't be a problem. Him being a bit older I think works too because you naturally assume he knows what he's talking about (and obviously he actually does which helps lol).
I think with other youtubers this same affect happens with their teenager fanbase. https://youtu.be/GXrxmhTC2u0 I'm old enough that a couple mins of this is like wtf are you even going on about but I'm sure kids probably think it's all fact
Title is clickbait but I kinda get what he’s trying to say. It’s good that other skaters outside of California are making moves, like it’s a huge privilege to even be able to afford to live out there.
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It’s about time some brands give Ben some guest pro boards. Krooked could get the ball rolling.
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I'm sure to some he is a kook but he lines up with what we all like so he isn't to us. He gets a little goofy sometimes but if you already like him it wouldn't be a problem. Him being a bit older I think works too because you naturally assume he knows what he's talking about (and obviously he actually does which helps lol).
I think with other youtubers this same affect happens with their teenager fanbase. https://youtu.be/GXrxmhTC2u0 I'm old enough that a couple mins of this is like wtf are you even going on about but I'm sure kids probably think it's all fact
John Hill moved to Southern California and NYC and never got invited to the session. He’s got some sort of inferiority complex because of it. So many of his videos are just imaginary arguments where he tries to convince himself he’s above the industry that never accepted him and his self proclaimed “pro” status.
With his fanbase aging out, he’s starting to get really desperate to get those clicks.
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It’s about time some brands give Ben some guest pro boards. Krooked could get the ball rolling.
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John Hill moved to Southern California and NYC and never got invited to the session. He’s got some sort of inferiority complex because of it. So many of his videos are just imaginary arguments where he tries to convince himself he’s above the industry that never accepted him and his self proclaimed “pro” status.
With his fanbase aging out, he’s starting to get really desperate to get those clicks.
He got invited to the session, it just happened to be by a guy on a razor scooter and a guy on one of those onewheel things. He rolled up to alligator ledge with his squad one day a couple years ago when i was there and they started filming each other with a selfie stick. It was sick
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
Tom Asta doesn’t belong in that crowd, not even with Ben. Dude is a legitimate pro and is far from cringe. Put some respect on his name.
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Only ben can make me watch dan corrigan and also the nine club if he actually gets on.
He liked a few instagram comments about him going there
I wonder if Ben will get an interview in Thrasher eventually. He seems university respected enough for something like that.
They interview a majority of musicians that no one gives a shit about, I don’t see why not
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
if you make 40 minute videos of you skating a ledge with a santa cruz board and eS's
you are cringe
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Does anyone know which episode it is where he does noselside nollie heel on that huge curvged ledge in vancouver and ther is some fukced up guy singing "rockstar" by nickelback right as he does it ?
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Does anyone know which episode it is where he does noselside nollie heel on that huge curvged ledge in vancouver and ther is some fukced up guy singing "rockstar" by nickelback right as he does it ?
8:07
https://youtu.be/GRucGp_F6sU
I remember going to to hot spot when I was young and being sketched out by all the junkies and needle disposal things meant to look like flowers...
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
if you make 40 minute videos of you skating a ledge with a santa cruz board and eS's
you are cringe
Okay, you’re a troll.
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
The way some of you guys worship Ben Degros and put him on a pedestal is really strange.
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
Exactly. I think I like Ben cause I also have severe OCD when it comes to shit that really doesn’t matter. In some ways, he’s more kooky than the vlog skaters who never talk about their setups cause most of them just pick something and stick with it and know that’s it’s their fault if they don’t land something, not the gear. Not dissing Ben, but he’s not that much better than the others when you sit down and think about it 😅
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
damn you really thought you made a point here, huh?
you could point to many ways that ben is "objectively" different than most youtubers - his age, his focus on product reviews, his cadence and personality, etc
nice try though
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fuck dan corrigan
fuck john hill
fuck tom asta
fuck all these desperate for attention losers
ben isn’t one of them and never was
if you make 40 minute videos of you skating a ledge with a santa cruz board and eS's
you are cringe
I imagine those companies allow him to have a home, feed his family, etc. Ben Degros is a 40 year old man who wears jorts embroidered with 'Fucking Awesome' ...is that really cooler, or are you just in love with Mr. Wheelbase Logic Carpenter Man?
Don't get me wrong I enjoy watching Ben and think he's a great guy, especially outside of his skateboarding, but it's clear you're being a bit biased here.
As for the '40 minutes of ledge skating' bit, let's be honest, Ben has been doing pretty much the same tricks at the same handful of parks/spots for years, with slight variations and improvements. Tom is on another level. I actually just checked out his YouTube channel for the first time, and there's no cringe bullshit, mostly just really good skating.
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I’ve found a way to not watch Dan’s vids….and quietly enjoy Tom Asta as a skater but not a vlogger…..it wasn’t too hard….
I’d love to see Ben D hit NYC and get some content with Feedback Ted…..the working man vs the intellect in a game of skate….trades vs. academia…..5 kids vs. a masters degree….
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I’d love to see Ben D hit NYC and get some content with Feedback Ted…..the working man vs the intellect in a game of skate….trades vs. academia…..5 kids vs. a masters degree….
Totally. Would be fun to watch. I just wonder if they'd mesh well together, though.
Also, five kids!?
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
damn you really thought you made a point here, huh?
you could point to many ways that ben is "objectively" different than most youtubers - his age, his focus on product reviews, his cadence and personality, etc
nice try though
He is older, but Dan Corrigan also has setup and product testing vids although not as many. I find Ben way less annoying and he's my type of kinda kooky YouTuber, but I think his channel has really run its course.
It was interesting when Ben had videos explaining the differences between gear, but now it's just him circling around his madness. I kinda stopped caring when he was gaslighting himself into riding Indy's because "Vancouver is an Indy city", which one of the dumbest reasons to ride a specific truck. In many ways that's more cringe than YouTubers going out and just filming with friends on the weekend.
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I’d love to see Ben D hit NYC and get some content with Feedback Ted…..the working man vs the intellect in a game of skate….trades vs. academia…..5 kids vs. a masters degree….
Totally. Would be fun to watch. I just wonder if they'd mesh well together, though.
Also, five kids!?
Given Ted thinks measurements and setup nerdery is one of the dumbest possible things in skating (his words over the years), as long as they kept away from that then it would be interesting. They're about the same age.
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
damn you really thought you made a point here, huh?
you could point to many ways that ben is "objectively" different than most youtubers - his age, his focus on product reviews, his cadence and personality, etc
nice try though
He is older, but Dan Corrigan also has setup and product testing vids although not as many. I find Ben way less annoying and he's my type of kinda kooky YouTuber, but I think his channel has really run its course.
It was interesting when Ben had videos explaining the differences between gear, but now it's just him circling around his madness. I kinda stopped caring when he was gaslighting himself into riding Indy's because "Vancouver is an Indy city", which one of the dumbest reasons to ride a specific truck. In many ways that's more cringe than YouTubers going out and just filming with friends on the weekend.
Yeah, he’s kinda said all that needs to be said when it comes to gear. His setup videos are whatever. I’m sure I’ll see what he has to say about those old Indys that Ace stole their design from lol
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Feedback Ted strikes me as one of those dudes who’s not that smart, not dumb, just middling, but he takes himself so fucking seriously so he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and none of his friends care enough to call him out
Also I’m happy that Ben normalizes old dudes wearing hypebeasty gear like big boy jorts
Tom’s channel is great
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I've skated with Ted a number of times and he's just a normal person, very nice dude. The whole IG thing is just "people think I'm super academic about everything because I study art so I'm going to critique things as an art historian would whole subtly roasting them". His Patreon is mostly riffing on skate videos with his own POV and art stuff that he is interested in. Doesn't come off as pretentious or anything negative he puts it out there and people like it. It's probably the most original skate social media if you think about it, or at least the only one of its kind.
VS Ben basically saying a bunch of technical shit about his setup then doing the same tricks as always thus proving he's kinda just making it all up to justify how he feels on the day or week.
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Yeah feedback Ted had dialed things back considerably which is why I started to see the similarity nice guys and how they navigate their online smuggery……they are both super good too so it would be sick….Ben D could rebuild Tompkins to train….
They are different types of nerds too….they could watch vids and feedback could chop up the outfits while Ben D could breakdown the dudes set up….
Im not sure if Ben D actually has 5 kids…prolly not but a family man for sure.
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VS Ben basically saying a bunch of technical shit about his setup then doing the same tricks as always thus proving he's kinda just making it all up to justify how he feels on the day or week.
After reviewing so much gear, Ben's pretty much said whatever needs to be said about wheelbase / trucks / wheel shapes / concave / deck shapes, whatever. If you've paid enough attention to his videos you can extrapolate what a combination of trucks + deck would do for your setup without having to ask it in every setup. Hence I don't blame him for just setting up flavor of the month board and just riffing, I can rewatch his old videos for the technical stuff.
I do like that his videos have less talking and more skating, makes it perfect for background noise while I work. I've lost track of the times I've replayed the Radial Slim and Indy Titanium videos.
Dan's bag of tricks are deep and weird, but he talks too much in his videos for me to want to have them on in the background.
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Ya that makes sense. Like I said I still watch Ben and Ted cuz they're my flavor of internet goons, but people on here make weird distinctions to justify their tastes and like, Dan annoys the fuck outta me and the one time he was at the same park in person he was unbearably annoying, but I get why some people might like that content.
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Yeah feedback Ted had dialed things back considerably which is why I started to see the similarity nice guys and how they navigate their online smuggery……they are both super good too so it would be sick….Ben D could rebuild Tompkins to train….
They are different types of nerds too….they could watch vids and feedback could chop up the outfits while Ben D could breakdown the dudes set up….
Im not sure if Ben D actually has 5 kids…prolly not but a family man for sure.
Last thing I want to watch is anybody talk about outfits
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Feedback Ted is my favorite of the "college skaters", the recently emerging brand of skateboarder who - can you believe it - both has a college degree and enjoys a low-status activity such as skateboarding. My sense is that skateboarding through your Masters and Doctoral process was fairly novel among your peers, but of course to the rest of the world this means absolutely nothing.
I actually like Feedback Ted's IG and he seems like a dude I would get along with IRL, but I can't get over how he literally sells a parasocial relationship via Patreon. Seems like a deeply weird and unhealthy thing for someone who has admitted that he has a huge problem with social media, but if it pays the bills then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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I agree Dan talks way too much and i think he has a bad style. he is pretty rude too which puts me off. he looks like he comes from a long line of truck drivers.
I would like to see Ben travel more. Even if it was just more places around BC. I bet theres a lot of places he hasnt evne skated in Vancouver still on his channel... has he ever skated at the plaza under the bridge? If he has i have never seen that one. But I realize that takes a lot of time out of his day and probably not super condusive to making his time worth while. He had an espide where he took a trip to Victoria and i thought that was really cool.
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I agree Dan talks way too much and i think he has a bad style. he is pretty rude too which puts me off. he looks like he comes from a long line of truck drivers.
I would like to see Ben travel more. Even if it was just more places around BC. I bet theres a lot of places he hasnt evne skated in Vancouver still on his channel... has he ever skated at the plaza under the bridge? If he has i have never seen that one. But I realize that takes a lot of time out of his day and probably not super condusive to making his time worth while. He had an espide where he took a trip to Victoria and i thought that was really cool.
It appears in at least a handful of his videos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
Do you think it could possibly be that thing A and thing B are very different and they just use the same medium (YouTube) to deliver their content? Based on your argument here, thing A (Max Palmer) and thing B (Nyjah) are objectively the same (traditionally sponsored pro skaters skating for smaller board brands, putting out video parts etc.) and people are artificially making distinctions between the two that don’t exist
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Some of ya'll are harsh on some of these dudes to the point where, frankly, it makes you look like you need to talk to someone about your issues.
Dont like em, dont watch em.
They arent so kooky and whack that they're gonna breed generations of kooks everywhere. Plenty of mainstream skateboard companies have done that for us. Snowboarding has that problem with Johnny Fuckhouse, SnowboardProCamp and other dudes. Snowboarding has enough kookage already. It sucks. These guys arent the same.
Dan is whatever, he is who he is, but he's harmless and entertaining if you're ok with watching endless skatepark footage (I'm not) but when he shows up in Keen's stuff or whatever he's good for some laughs. Same with Dale.
Ben is just a good dude. Very Canadian. He's legit just a nice guy and still skateboarding and ripping harder than almost any 40-somethings. Maybe that's real problem here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU
I'm 10 minutes in and I feel like Prof has talked over Ben about a dozen times.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU
I'm 10 minutes in and I feel like Prof has talked over Ben about a dozen times.
Your first experience with The Professor?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU
I'm 10 minutes in and I feel like Prof has talked over Ben about a dozen times.
Ben looks so annoyed, or maybe even a bit disgusted. Is it the halitosis?
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I did like the bit about going into a skateshop is like a kid in the candy store.
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So what bit did Ben cut his finger on that didn't make the edit?
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The way ps says reality irks me
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So what bit did Ben cut his finger on that didn't make the edit?
you can see ben check his finger after he picked up the boards that ps dropped before explaining the router
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So what bit did Ben cut his finger on that didn't make the edit?
you can see ben check his finger after he picked up the boards that ps dropped before explaining the router
Visible blood at 25:15
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So what bit did Ben cut his finger on that didn't make the edit?
you can see ben check his finger after he picked up the boards that ps dropped before explaining the router
Visible blood at 25:15
Yeah, Ben seems pissed for most of the interview. Cutting his hand while picking up the boards that Paul knocked over (and didn't help, just continued to camera) was the icing on the cake. Interesting vid though.
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Yeah, Ben seemed like he was kinda not vibin' with the "Prof"
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It's probably just a little bit awkward more than having a problem with prof. It's different to his regular videos with the amount of stuff he would have to cover in a short time. Have to film every step of the process and get b roll and basically do an interview it would be annoying. Plus have you ever been on a job and know you have to ask some guy like ten different things and instead of just answering they give you a full anecdote for each response pretty sure that's the face you make in that situation
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i respect and i'm interested in prof's knowledge but he really seems annoying
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It's probably just a little bit awkward more than having a problem with prof. It's different to his regular videos with the amount of stuff he would have to cover in a short time. Have to film every step of the process and get b roll and basically do an interview it would be annoying. Plus have you ever been on a job and know you have to ask some guy like ten different things and instead of just answering they give you a full anecdote for each response pretty sure that's the face you make in that situation
Word. Raw footage is probably 15 hours long.
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This is a case of where people hate thing A but thing B is objectively the same just their specific weird variant of thing A but they create an artificial distinction because they don't want to admit it to themselves.
Do you think it could possibly be that thing A and thing B are very different and they just use the same medium (YouTube) to deliver their content? Based on your argument here, thing A (Max Palmer) and thing B (Nyjah) are objectively the same (traditionally sponsored pro skaters skating for smaller board brands, putting out video parts etc.) and people are artificially making distinctions between the two that don’t exist
I would love to see a Nyjah/Max shared part. That has potentially to be mind bendingly bizarre.
Mostly it's in the details. They skate very different shit so I'd say they're much further apart than skate YouTubers who mostly skate skateparks and a few street spots, are close enough in ability level, and sometimes pepper in reviews.
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It's probably just a little bit awkward more than having a problem with prof. It's different to his regular videos with the amount of stuff he would have to cover in a short time. Have to film every step of the process and get b roll and basically do an interview it would be annoying. Plus have you ever been on a job and know you have to ask some guy like ten different things and instead of just answering they give you a full anecdote for each response pretty sure that's the face you make in that situation
(https://i.postimg.cc/zfjMcgFD/96510-B0-C-B38-B-40-A4-88-B8-F3-B6833-C11-F4.png) (https://postimg.cc/f3VB3kP1)
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It's probably just a little bit awkward more than having a problem with prof. It's different to his regular videos with the amount of stuff he would have to cover in a short time. Have to film every step of the process and get b roll and basically do an interview it would be annoying. Plus have you ever been on a job and know you have to ask some guy like ten different things and instead of just answering they give you a full anecdote for each response pretty sure that's the face you make in that situation
Bet he almost missed his flight back home thanks to the Prof.
No hate on Schmitt, he reminds me of every 60+ year old I've met who've dedicated their lives to 1 job / trade / industry / hobby - they know every minute detail and all the shitty jokes and anecdotes, rehearsed countless times with unwilling new hires and during company mandated picnics.
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Been seeing Ben pop up in the loser accounts a bit. The algo popped up one of Corrigans mates who plastered Ben all over his vid. It's like when a new kid pops up at school and all the losers dickheads sideline them before they figure out whats going on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X_35edYpU
I'm 10 minutes in and I feel like Prof has talked over Ben about a dozen times.
Ben looks so annoyed, or maybe even a bit disgusted. Is it the halitosis?
The vibe was way off for sure. It's pretty bad when you can see the irritation in Ben who seems like the most mellow guy in the world.
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
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Been seeing Ben pop up in the loser accounts a bit. The algo popped up one of Corrigans mates who plastered Ben all over his vid. It's like when a new kid pops up at school and all the losers dickheads sideline them before they figure out whats going on.
The worst thing about youtubers isn't necessarily their videos but when you see in the background a group of them all swarming with their phones making their own versions of the same video. I guess at least they're getting outside and technically socialising so it's not as bad as all the sad video reaction channels who just wait to see what other channels are reacting to and make the same video
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Been seeing Ben pop up in the loser accounts a bit. The algo popped up one of Corrigans mates who plastered Ben all over his vid. It's like when a new kid pops up at school and all the losers dickheads sideline them before they figure out whats going on.
The future fully rips and isn't a bummer at all.
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lol he was probably just worried about his fucked up hand while being in fucking mexico
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lol he was probably just worried about his fucked up hand while being in fucking mexico
that and being given a dirty rag from a dusty factory instead of a plaster/band aid to cover it.
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lol he was probably just worried about his fucked up hand while being in fucking mexico
that and being given a dirty rag from a dusty factory instead of a plaster/band aid to cover it.
Health and safety codes are friendly recommendations instead of regulations.
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Ben - "I kinda like the fact that it's made with something like a water based wood glue as opposed to having to expose your workers to a two part epoxy and all the dust that creates"
Schmitt - "Well I can agree with that but the big thing is treating the hard maple with respect."
LMFAO
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Ben - "I kinda like the fact that it's made with something like a water based wood glue as opposed to having to expose your workers to a two part epoxy and all the dust that creates"
Schmitt - "Well I can agree with that but the big thing is treating the hard maple with respect."
LMFAO
I mean dude does think it's a cool thing that people can stand in front of a drum sander for 10 hour shifts
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Ben - "I kinda like the fact that it's made with something like a water based wood glue as opposed to having to expose your workers to a two part epoxy and all the dust that creates"
Schmitt - "Well I can agree with that but the big thing is treating the hard maple with respect."
LMFAO
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Ben - "I kinda like the fact that it's made with something like a water based wood glue as opposed to having to expose your workers to a two part epoxy and all the dust that creates"
Schmitt - "Well I can agree with that but the big thing is treating the hard maple with respect."
LMFAO
"It's like a ten-hour workout"
(https://i.ibb.co/DGxtN7P/schmitt-stix-professor.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGxtN7P)
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Ben - "I kinda like the fact that it's made with something like a water based wood glue as opposed to having to expose your workers to a two part epoxy and all the dust that creates"
Schmitt - "Well I can agree with that but the big thing is treating the hard maple with respect."
LMFAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17hnNOFaRH4
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I'm 10 minutes in and I feel like Prof has talked over Ben about a dozen times.
Ben looks so annoyed, or maybe even a bit disgusted. Is it the halitosis?
The best is at 7:20 after the Professor talks about his grandfather and Ben says "Interesting" in the least interested way possible. ;D
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I'm cringing watching this, haha. Poor Ben.
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's kind of insane that Paul clearly knows what he's talking about, but the quality of PS decks tell a different story.
Also saying that epoxy is inferior to wood glue because it's harder so it breaks easier was worded so weirdly and something I don't fully agree with (although someone with more woodworking experience can chime in). I understand that he means that wood glue will let the deck flex during impact while epoxy won't, but I've had way better experiences on NHS decks (uses epoxy) than PS Stix decks in terms of durability.
Also respirator being worn incorrectly at 24:45
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1075911907925565541/aad3805c9d3307f8b171ffbedcc1d177.png)
OSHA's going to have a heart attack when they see this video :v
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How about wood glue mid board, epoxy nose and tail? Call it something snazzy like Glass Assed with a Pop Dat Ass catch phrase and this song as the theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YroNB187gBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YroNB187gBc)
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How about wood glue mid board, epoxy nose and tail? Call it something snazzy like Glass Assed with a Pop Dat Ass catch phrase and this song as the theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YroNB187gBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YroNB187gBc)
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
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It's kind of insane that Paul clearly knows what he's talking about, but the quality of PS decks tell a different story.
Also saying that epoxy is inferior to wood glue because it's harder so it breaks easier was worded so weirdly and something I don't fully agree with (although someone with more woodworking experience can chime in). I understand that he means that wood glue will let the deck flex during impact while epoxy won't, but I've had way better experiences on NHS decks (uses epoxy) than PS Stix decks in terms of durability.
Also respirator being worn incorrectly at 24:45
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1075911907925565541/aad3805c9d3307f8b171ffbedcc1d177.png)
OSHA's going to have a heart attack when they see this video :v
They’re in Mexico. OSHA doesn’t give a shit.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/7bcoug.jpg)
Parks and recreation themed meme
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Schmitt used to be more tolerable. I think his persona has gone to his head he really thinks he’s some kind of wood guru. Most of the PS decks I’ve ever had are just sponges after a week.
He does have a pretty good rant on his insta about skatepark designers not taking sun into account when they build skateparks. Leaving deep bowls in half sun/ half shadow. Sort of grumpy old man shit, but he does have a point.
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Gotta know if the front door to PS Sticks was a push or pull door and if Ben was able to understand this. I feel like we’re purposely being left in the dark.
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Gotta know if the front door to PS Sticks was a push or pull door and if Ben was able to understand this. I feel like we’re purposely being left in the dark.
Funny I thought something similar but not everyone is a dirty ghetto kid and SW looked high as a kite from the second he stepped out of the vehicle.
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Gotta know if the front door to PS Sticks was a push or pull door and if Ben was able to understand this. I feel like we’re purposely being left in the dark.
Funny I thought something similar but not everyone is a dirty ghetto kid and SW looked high as a kite from the second he stepped out of the vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbNQ1dLKGU
Filmer too, shooting the entire video in portrait. The GM / tour guide had so much trouble keeping Stevie's attention throughout the tour of the factory.
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Gotta know if the front door to PS Sticks was a push or pull door and if Ben was able to understand this. I feel like we’re purposely being left in the dark.
Funny I thought something similar but not everyone is a dirty ghetto kid and SW looked high as a kite from the second he stepped out of the vehicle.
True true. In this instance I guess not everyone is a DGK and the k is for konnoisseur of dumb moments in skateboarding history.
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Finally getting round to watching the Ben DG and Prof Schmitt video and I did make it through in one go, but I wanted to exit a few times.
What is interesting at about 14:00 when they are talking about mental happiness, Ben says "If a board has the wrong shape, even if I can skate good on it, I don't like skating on it, same with a bad graphic" which is so very true.
Another thing. Ben says he never takes the warning sticker off before he grips it...
Reminds me of others also commenting disbelief when he says he never keeps any of the stickers that come with boards.
Each to their own, I guess.
I always remove all traces of warning or other stickers on any decks before I grip them and either hoard or give away all the stickers or other packaging that come with any skate product.
I am a bit special like that.
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Schmitt used to be more tolerable. I think his persona has gone to his head he really thinks he’s some kind of wood guru. Most of the PS decks I’ve ever had are just sponges after a week.
He does have a pretty good rant on his insta about skatepark designers not taking sun into account when they build skateparks. Leaving deep bowls in half sun/ half shadow. Sort of grumpy old man shit, but he does have a point.
did he ever even skate?
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Schmitt used to be more tolerable. I think his persona has gone to his head he really thinks he’s some kind of wood guru. Most of the PS decks I’ve ever had are just sponges after a week.
He does have a pretty good rant on his insta about skatepark designers not taking sun into account when they build skateparks. Leaving deep bowls in half sun/ half shadow. Sort of grumpy old man shit, but he does have a point.
He still does it seems.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsz232INCw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Schmitt used to be more tolerable. I think his persona has gone to his head he really thinks he’s some kind of wood guru. Most of the PS decks I’ve ever had are just sponges after a week.
He does have a pretty good rant on his insta about skatepark designers not taking sun into account when they build skateparks. Leaving deep bowls in half sun/ half shadow. Sort of grumpy old man shit, but he does have a point.
He still does it seems.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsz232INCw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
oh damn, i thought he maybe skated back in the 70’s or something but that was better than most guys his age
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Schmitt used to be more tolerable. I think his persona has gone to his head he really thinks he’s some kind of wood guru. Most of the PS decks I’ve ever had are just sponges after a week.
He does have a pretty good rant on his insta about skatepark designers not taking sun into account when they build skateparks. Leaving deep bowls in half sun/ half shadow. Sort of grumpy old man shit, but he does have a point.
Yes, for a long time
https://youtu.be/icoaewZMAfA?t=372
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One of the most dad things I've watched in a while :v
https://youtu.be/MWPY8XfTqoU
Also: (premiere at 10am PST at the time of this post)
https://youtu.be/OgE7S8VlV0E
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's kind of insane that Paul clearly knows what he's talking about, but the quality of PS decks tell a different story.
Also saying that epoxy is inferior to wood glue because it's harder so it breaks easier was worded so weirdly and something I don't fully agree with (although someone with more woodworking experience can chime in). I understand that he means that wood glue will let the deck flex during impact while epoxy won't, but I've had way better experiences on NHS decks (uses epoxy) than PS Stix decks in terms of durability.
Also respirator being worn incorrectly at 24:45
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1075911907925565541/aad3805c9d3307f8b171ffbedcc1d177.png)
OSHA's going to have a heart attack when they see this video :v
It's not super straightforward and both wood glue and epoxy work fine. It really depends on what type of epoxy is used and what type of wood glue.
Epoxy fills gaps a tad better, which should matter with a skateboard, is really strong, and tends to have high sheer strength. In some niche woodworking applications some people find that it can tend to crack during twisting or really rapid applications of strength. I had something crack at the glue line once, but it's not a common problem. The advantage is it can cure faster and often times needs less clamping force.
A lot of people use it when the glue might be exposed because you can dye it to match a color and it finishes nicer.
Wood glue can be stronger depending on the glue, way it cured, and clamping force. It can resist twisting slightly better in some applications. Personally speaking I've been unable to break anything I've wood glued.
In the end it doesn't matter much for a skateboard. My guess is that boards made with epoxy take less time to produce since they can cure faster and need less time in a press. Probably helps the Chinese companies mass produce things easier.
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almost every nine club video has a comment requesting ben on. since ben’s in america they should jump at that opportunity
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They've already hitched their trailer pretty hard onto &&......they can only dip so far into youtubery......
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almost every nine club video has a comment requesting ben on. since ben’s in america they should jump at that opportunity
I think he's been back for a little bit now. He talks about the difference between Cali and Canada in one of his friends youtube videos posted 4 days ago: https://youtu.be/px9LWGGR0tw?t=466
Ben the wax bandit. It's definitely accurate though from my experiences.
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almost every nine club video has a comment requesting ben on. since ben’s in america they should jump at that opportunity
I think he's been back for a little bit now. He talks about the difference between Cali and Canada in one of his friends youtube videos posted 4 days ago: https://youtu.be/px9LWGGR0tw?t=466
Ben the wax bandit. It's definitely accurate though from my experiences.
He steals wax? Damn son.
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almost every nine club video has a comment requesting ben on. since ben’s in america they should jump at that opportunity
I think he's been back for a little bit now. He talks about the difference between Cali and Canada in one of his friends youtube videos posted 4 days ago: https://youtu.be/px9LWGGR0tw?t=466
Ben the wax bandit. It's definitely accurate though from my experiences.
He steals wax? Damn son.
And on camera no less. Ben don't give a fuck.
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Honestly, every skateboard deck maker should be in the business of stacking their blems together to be sold as an "upcycled" wood product.
https://youtu.be/vzxIO1VG4Ik
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almost every nine club video has a comment requesting ben on. since ben’s in america they should jump at that opportunity
I think he's been back for a little bit now. He talks about the difference between Cali and Canada in one of his friends youtube videos posted 4 days ago: https://youtu.be/px9LWGGR0tw?t=466
Ben the wax bandit. It's definitely accurate though from my experiences.
He steals wax? Damn son.
Just because he stole our hearts he thinks its okay to steal our wax... come on Ben... get it together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5gv_BED9s
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Lol ^^
"Professor Schmitt's anal..."
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Feel like Ben (a literal carpenter) tried to interject a few logical thoughts about his setup and got shut down by the Nutty Professor rambling on with his pseudoscience nonsense a few times during this. Was a little awkward to watch. BBS please.
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Feel like Ben (a literal carpenter) tried to interject a few logical thoughts about his setup and got shut down by the Nutty Professor rambling on with his pseudoscience nonsense a few times during this. Was a little awkward to watch. BBS please.
Agreed, ps never shuts up and whenever ben interjected he would always give some half ass wave off response before he kept talking.
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ps giving off mad neal degrasse tyson vibes
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Don't really see how wheel shape would affect flip tricks unless it was a pressure flip and even then the wheels are usually already off the ground before the board flips. But then I'm not a professor.
Rocker is kind of interesting but I still hate when a tail flexes no matter what
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Feel like Ben (a literal carpenter) tried to interject a few logical thoughts about his setup and got shut down by the Nutty Professor rambling on with his pseudoscience nonsense a few times during this. Was a little awkward to watch. BBS please.
Agreed, ps never shuts up and whenever ben interjected he would always give some half ass wave off response before he kept talking.
I haven’t gone to any higher learning, which is obvious, when reading what I post.
My limited understanding of what a professor does is that they would teach, and then someone would hopefully learn information, on whatever the subject was.
PS does more a 3 card Monty(grind) routine imo. Just keeps the conversation swirling, and then instead of coming to a conclusion, adds a new piece and runs down that tangent for awhile.
I mentioned this once before, and it wasn’t clever then, but I do not have a better example: years ago I was a waiter, and I was just never that interested in wine. I am not a super taster. I enjoy food, but I am not obsessed with the flavors. Remembering different tasting notes, that I would be infrequently called upon to recite, on a rotating list (absolutely part of the job, just a part I sucked at) just wasn’t happening. I would strangely be able to remember some cute little factoids such as ‘the label was drawn by a small child for a contest’, that was clearly of zero use to someone asking about what the wine tasted like. So I’d just, embarrassingly, say a bunch of shit, cheerfully, and then wait for the person to make the decision they were going to make anyways. PS has a similar energy for me.
Tbf, somewhat like wine, there lots of board characteristics. Some like it steep, some want a less processed wine with sediment, notes of sulfur, flat concave. Dude is a fucking maniac tho. His best boards are fantastic, and probably my favorite. Lots of shit ones in there tho. And trying to learn something from this guy is wild. Partially my small brains, and partially his snake oil delivery, but I often feel more confused by his ‘information’.
I wish an alternative to ‘the professor’ would present themselves.
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Feel like Ben (a literal carpenter) tried to interject a few logical thoughts about his setup and got shut down by the Nutty Professor rambling on with his pseudoscience nonsense a few times during this. Was a little awkward to watch. BBS please.
Agreed, ps never shuts up and whenever ben interjected he would always give some half ass wave off response before he kept talking.
I haven’t gone to any higher learning, which is obvious, when reading what I post.
My limited understanding of what a professor does is that they would teach, and then someone would hopefully learn information, on whatever the subject was.
PS does more a 3 card Monty(grind) routine imo. Just keeps the conversation swirling, and then instead of coming to a conclusion, adds a new piece and runs down that tangent for awhile.
I mentioned this once before, and it wasn’t clever then, but I do not have a better example: years ago I was a waiter, and I was just never that interested in wine. I am not a super taster. I enjoy food, but I am not obsessed with the flavors. Remembering different tasting notes, that I would be infrequently called upon to recite, on a rotating list (absolutely part of the job, just a part I sucked at) just wasn’t happening. I would strangely be able to remember some cute little factoids such as ‘the label was drawn by a small child for a contest’, that was clearly of zero use to someone asking about what the wine tasted like. So I’d just, embarrassingly, say a bunch of shit, cheerfully, and then wait for the person to make the decision they were going to make anyways. PS has a similar energy for me.
Tbf, somewhat like wine, there lots of board characteristics. Some like it steep, some want a less processed wine with sediment, notes of sulfur, flat concave. Dude is a fucking maniac tho. His best boards are fantastic, and probably my favorite. Lots of shit ones in there tho. And trying to learn something from this guy is wild. Partially my small brains, and partially his snake oil delivery, but I often feel more confused by his ‘information’.
I wish an alternative to ‘the professor’ would present themselves.
I've watched all of Ben's videos but I couldn't make it to the end of this one.
I'll cue it up for a flight I have tomorrow, see if I can make it to the end of Schmitt's ramblings.
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ps giving off mad neal degrasse tyson vibes
Lol perfect.
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Paul Schmidt sounds insufferable as hell. Not surprising for a self-proclaimed “professor”.
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Feel like Ben (a literal carpenter) tried to interject a few logical thoughts about his setup and got shut down by the Nutty Professor rambling on with his pseudoscience nonsense a few times during this. Was a little awkward to watch. BBS please.
Agreed, ps never shuts up and whenever ben interjected he would always give some half ass wave off response before he kept talking.
I haven’t gone to any higher learning, which is obvious, when reading what I post.
My limited understanding of what a professor does is that they would teach, and then someone would hopefully learn information, on whatever the subject was.
PS does more a 3 card Monty(grind) routine imo. Just keeps the conversation swirling, and then instead of coming to a conclusion, adds a new piece and runs down that tangent for awhile.
I mentioned this once before, and it wasn’t clever then, but I do not have a better example: years ago I was a waiter, and I was just never that interested in wine. I am not a super taster. I enjoy food, but I am not obsessed with the flavors. Remembering different tasting notes, that I would be infrequently called upon to recite, on a rotating list (absolutely part of the job, just a part I sucked at) just wasn’t happening. I would strangely be able to remember some cute little factoids such as ‘the label was drawn by a small child for a contest’, that was clearly of zero use to someone asking about what the wine tasted like. So I’d just, embarrassingly, say a bunch of shit, cheerfully, and then wait for the person to make the decision they were going to make anyways. PS has a similar energy for me.
Tbf, somewhat like wine, there lots of board characteristics. Some like it steep, some want a less processed wine with sediment, notes of sulfur, flat concave. Dude is a fucking maniac tho. His best boards are fantastic, and probably my favorite. Lots of shit ones in there tho. And trying to learn something from this guy is wild. Partially my small brains, and partially his snake oil delivery, but I often feel more confused by his ‘information’.
I wish an alternative to ‘the professor’ would present themselves.
I've watched all of Ben's videos but I couldn't make it to the end of this one.
I'll cue it up for a flight I have tomorrow, see if I can make it to the end of Schmitt's ramblings.
Ha yeah, 36 minutes of something I don't really want to watch...
We will see.
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Some good moments in this one when it was flowing, but any time PS ain't talkin he's just waiting to talk again. Also, not taking Ben into consideration, being a top level carpenter / tradie and complete skateboard dork, but talking to him like he could be anyone. Could have been great if there was some kind of real collaboration in the convo, but Pauls a teller.
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Also thinking about how funny it was Ben just said how specific he is with doing up his hardware then prof just tears his board apart and cranks it with the power tools. I guess his truck was on crooked tho
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Also thinking about how funny it was Ben just said how specific he is with doing up his hardware then prof just tears his board apart and cranks it with the power tools. I guess his truck was on crooked tho
Haha yeah, I had the same thought. Also I would lose my mind if someone just started shoving griptape under my trucks…
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Also thinking about how funny it was Ben just said how specific he is with doing up his hardware then prof just tears his board apart and cranks it with the power tools. I guess his truck was on crooked tho
Haha yeah, I had the same thought. Also I would lose my mind if someone just started shoving griptape under my trucks…
And by Ben's first video back in Vancouver he was off the Ventures.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93WRQ8HT_WA
People like Thunders
And won't ride Ventures forever
You can't trust people @backinaction
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I feel like every video with PS is the same. What I would love to see is for Ben to sit down with Mike Carroll and discuss all of the different shapes that Crail offers - how they came about, whose idea it was, what they were looking for, etc.
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's kind of insane that Paul clearly knows what he's talking about, but the quality of PS decks tell a different story.
Also saying that epoxy is inferior to wood glue because it's harder so it breaks easier was worded so weirdly and something I don't fully agree with (although someone with more woodworking experience can chime in). I understand that he means that wood glue will let the deck flex during impact while epoxy won't, but I've had way better experiences on NHS decks (uses epoxy) than PS Stix decks in terms of durability.
Also respirator being worn incorrectly at 24:45
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1075911907925565541/aad3805c9d3307f8b171ffbedcc1d177.png)
OSHA's going to have a heart attack when they see this video :v
A LOT of brands have switched to BBS in the past few years. PS Stix is down to 50 board minimums. Seems like he is on damage control getting ben to hype up his wood shop. I am not sure if I am missing some details but it seems like some companies are still using both BBS and PS Stix though.
I feel like anyone who actually knows about the woodshops would always choose BBS over PS Stix. I understand the benefits of riding epoxy dwindle boards, and I also seem to see a following of people who seem to really like Crail boards for some reason. I don't think there is an army of people that are only wanting to ride PS Stix boards, I am guessing that the companies that are using both shops probably are just using PS to fill some extra orders that BBS couldnt fulfill or something.
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lol have to appreciate that they are just shootin the shit and its not super serious
ben talking about he doesnt care about the weight of the lower nuts and then schmitt says "but you weigh your trucks when youre done with them" ;D
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lol have to appreciate that they are just shootin the shit and its not super serious
ben talking about he doesnt care about the weight of the lower nuts and then schmitt says "but you weigh your trucks when youre done with them" ;D
I thought this was dumb because Ben had already said he weighed them because he was curious how much metal he had grinded away and how his weight was distributed.
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What are the chances Ben immediately took off that grip tape from under his trucks?
Personally, I don't care who it is. I wouldn't let someone do something like that to my setup. I also had it on in the background and thought Paul was stripping his hardware nuts
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What are the chances Ben immediately took off that grip tape from under his trucks?
Personally, I don't care who it is. I wouldn't let someone do something like that to my setup. I also had it on in the background and thought Paul was stripping his hardware nuts
this was the first thing I thought of too
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Ben definitely took that shit off. Dude is the most fussy skater on YouTube, and PS thinks all the madness stuff is bullshit (you can tell by the way he dismisses most concerns). So this was a bad pairing. Sure, he can make some great decks, but I wouldn’t let him touch my setup and I’m not half the skater Ben is 😅
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Be interesting if Ben does a board brand. I think he wanted to not long ago. With lowering minimums I think ps will push clutch numbers lower. I know of two newer Midwest brands that are going that route.
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Be interesting if Ben does a board brand. I think he wanted to not long ago. With lowering minimums I think ps will push clutch numbers lower. I know of two newer Midwest brands that are going that route.
Nah, the last thing the industry needs is another deck company when shops and manufacturers are stacked to the rafters with inventory. Even less so if he want to do BBS blanks like the last time around.
I'd like to see Quantum Bearings give him a signature series.
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Seeing ben get all stoked out on istanbul is sick. https://www.instagram.com/p/CpcPnULsmX4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CpcPnULsmX4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
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Just checked his recent clips. International Ben is awesome.
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If I was Ben, I would have asked about the advantages of making boards that are square as fuck with shoddy craftmanship. Schmidt can talk all the science he wants, the inconsistency of PS Stix manufacturing nowadays is nothing to be proud of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's kind of insane that Paul clearly knows what he's talking about, but the quality of PS decks tell a different story.
Also saying that epoxy is inferior to wood glue because it's harder so it breaks easier was worded so weirdly and something I don't fully agree with (although someone with more woodworking experience can chime in). I understand that he means that wood glue will let the deck flex during impact while epoxy won't, but I've had way better experiences on NHS decks (uses epoxy) than PS Stix decks in terms of durability.
Also respirator being worn incorrectly at 24:45
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1075911907925565541/aad3805c9d3307f8b171ffbedcc1d177.png)
OSHA's going to have a heart attack when they see this video :v
exactly how i feel
i remember skating my first Quasi PS stix after knowing about schmitt for a long time from all the 9 club interviews & being severely disappointed the board quality just felt shit & spongey the first time i skated it
BBS for life now
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check out ben's homey adriano's page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3x4QeOquJ4
lol i am dying laughing at this setup, its actually really amazing. i love the noseslide "baseplate protector" and started bursting out laughing at work when he said "plus its plastic so it just freaking goes"
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check out ben's homey adriano's page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3x4QeOquJ4
lol i am dying laughing at this setup, its actually really amazing. i love the noseslide "baseplate protector" and started bursting out laughing at work when he said "plus its plastic so it just freaking goes"
(https://i0.wp.com/www.16-9.dk/3/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/149_top.jpg?fit=700%2C382)
All dat turnin radius of yurs
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Be interesting if Ben does a board brand. I think he wanted to not long ago. With lowering minimums I think ps will push clutch numbers lower. I know of two newer Midwest brands that are going that route.
Nah, the last thing the industry needs is another deck company when shops and manufacturers are stacked to the rafters with inventory. Even less so if he want to do BBS blanks like the last time around.
I'd like to see Quantum Bearings give him a signature series.
he did have some iteration of a board company, not long ago, it was more of a "here is the precise shape of the board that I'm riding" project
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check out ben's homey adriano's page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3x4QeOquJ4
lol i am dying laughing at this setup, its actually really amazing. i love the noseslide "baseplate protector" and started bursting out laughing at work when he said "plus its plastic so it just freaking goes"
(https://i0.wp.com/www.16-9.dk/3/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/149_top.jpg?fit=700%2C382)
All dat turnin radius of yurs
hahahahaha
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Keaton is actually the sickest dude.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nl12hqF1lg&ab_channel=BenDegros
Not a huge fan of the filming but man does he look good in fisheye
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That board was bonkers. Dudes pretty good. That board was bonkers tho. lol. Dude kinda looks like if Louie Barletta and Nigel Alexander had a baby. I'd kinda like to see how the base plate extenders things work in the streets. I feel like the rough cut curbs and ledges around here might tear it off.
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Looks like Ben is back on Thunders in the latest Force 58 review vid. He needs to do the setup breakdown in each video. He knows that is what we really want! No escaping the madness.
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Looks like Ben is back on Thunders in the latest Force 58 review vid. He needs to do the setup breakdown in each video. He knows that is what we really want! No escaping the madness.
It’s hard to keep up with his madness. Dude’s setup is probably different by the time a video drops. Sure he’s already switched to Venture, then Indy, and back to Thunder lol
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That board was bonkers. Dudes pretty good. That board was bonkers tho. lol. Dude kinda looks like if Louie Barletta and Nigel Alexander had a baby. I'd kinda like to see how the base plate extenders things work in the streets. I feel like the rough cut curbs and ledges around here might tear it off.
I really want to try them. I am constantly waxing the sides of curbs / ledges and i end up not even doing a lot of noseslides cause i usually cant be bothered. Also, I could start riding seriously soft as fuck wheels too, like Rat Bones, hell even Hot Juice or whatever. It opens up A TON of spots in my area when you ride wheels like that. I wonder how that would affect noseslide > crook combo?
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Be interesting if Ben does a board brand. I think he wanted to not long ago. With lowering minimums I think ps will push clutch numbers lower. I know of two newer Midwest brands that are going that route.
he technically did with Canada Skate Shop but he sold his share in the company but occasionally rides the boards.
https://www.instagram.com/canada.skate.shop/
he has his own thoughts on woodshops (a la gifted hater video) so wouldn't expect him wanting to go with anyone else other than BBS/PS.
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Be interesting if Ben does a board brand. I think he wanted to not long ago. With lowering minimums I think ps will push clutch numbers lower. I know of two newer Midwest brands that are going that route.
he technically did with Canada Skate Shop but he sold his share in the company but occasionally rides the boards.
https://www.instagram.com/canada.skate.shop/
he has his own thoughts on woodshops (a la gifted hater video) so wouldn't expect him wanting to go with anyone else other than BBS/PS.
he said he was over the idea of it. he said he felt equivalent to a kid in high school selling weed so he can smoke for free, which imo is a super accurate comparison. he never would have the kind of capital to mess with the big players and make any sort of serious dent in the game. he knows theres just no money in it, and he feels like he woudlnt be contributing anything significant.
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Looks like Ben is back on Thunders in the latest Force 58 review vid. He needs to do the setup breakdown in each video. He knows that is what we really want! No escaping the madness.
This has been noted a few times before, but it's pretty funny that someone who can switch so effortlessly between totally different setups and still perform as such a high level has "madness".
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His reviews are nerdy but alwas damn interesting
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i think it stems from the fact he can do every single trick. he can do it on every single setup, its just a matter of how much he is struggling with it on certain day. so one day a sw 360 flip takes him 1 try, the next it takes him 3 or 4. if he wasnt so picky then even on the bad board, i think he would get used to it and eventually get it to the point he can do it every try.
the real madness is when one setup works better for certain tricks, but then worse on others. i noticed he was like "oh i really like smith grinds on ventures" it is kind of an oddly specific trick to call out. theres never gonna be any 1 board that does everything perfectly. when you add length to the wb, to me it feels harder to bring around on 3 flips, but i find increased stability and control when doing grinds or skating transition. will chnage the way you manual too. then you bring in the bolt position, concave, and steepness of kicks. i feel like that stuff more comes down to preference but again there is a similar trade off and the timing will change.
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https://youtu.be/vy59S81CdSM (https://youtu.be/vy59S81CdSM)
Ben’s little jab at real at the very end made me lol
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ill be honest, do people really care about these videos & watch them attentively?
i've gone as far as nerding out on wheelbase & a little (emphasis on little) bit into nose/tail steepness&concave but the moment he starts going into fingers of flat & time to pop, i could care less because those factors are near impossible for me to control given i buy boards online
i love the man, but his videos are background noise for me when im doing something else
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ill be honest, do people really care about these videos & watch them attentively?
i've gone as far as nerding out on wheelbase & a little (emphasis on little) bit into nose/tail steepness&concave but the moment he starts going into fingers of flat & time to pop, i could care less because those factors are near impossible for me to control given i buy boards online
i love the man, but his videos are background noise for me when im doing something else
They're good vids to put on while I'm looking for something to watch. I don't really care about all the super tech stuff (or even actually really believe it matters) but his general reviews of products or going to ps stix or parks etc vids are good
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ill be honest, do people really care about these videos & watch them attentively?
i've gone as far as nerding out on wheelbase & a little (emphasis on little) bit into nose/tail steepness&concave but the moment he starts going into fingers of flat & time to pop, i could care less because those factors are near impossible for me to control given i buy boards online
i love the man, but his videos are background noise for me when im doing something else
I think some are more relevant / of interest more than others, but if I have time I might watch a few here and there.
Of the last dozen or so I have only seen a couple though (including that last one which I did find interesting), but some people might be way more interested than others with the fine details of that sort of stuff.
Sure I am all about getting into detail for some things, but I often tend to skip over others, eg certain brands of shoe, or whatever he said about shorts / clothes have very little interest to me, compared to different woodshops, concaves or skate hardgoods reviews, but others might be all about the new Nike shoes or Polar shorts, just to name a few after looking over the video list.
https://www.youtube.com/@bendegros/videos
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ill be honest, do people really care about these videos & watch them attentively?
i've gone as far as nerding out on wheelbase & a little (emphasis on little) bit into nose/tail steepness&concave but the moment he starts going into fingers of flat & time to pop, i could care less because those factors are near impossible for me to control given i buy boards online
i love the man, but his videos are background noise for me when im doing something else
Definitely on the same page as you, I don’t pay close attention to everything he says in these gear specific vids. That said, i fuck with those dad or bro reviews he was doing
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https://youtu.be/bgB5BF_kd9w
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https://youtu.be/bgB5BF_kd9w
This was sick, the spots looked so great. Ben’s a really good skateboarder
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs2CBzdPJqz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Look at these two studs
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Look like brothers.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs2CBzdPJqz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Look at these two studs
Still holding out for a Ben and Ted DeGros video, that would be a fine Thanksgiving day video. Just 2 of them swapping stories from their past, Ted's time riding for AWS and SC, current state of the industry and the rise of the YT skater, seeing the ebb and flow of each brothers career.
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That's not Ted is it? I'm pretty bad with faces though.
I too would love to see him on Ben's channel just shooting the shit. Not sure if he even skates anymore just casually.
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That is ted but not degros. Ted Barrow. They look like brothers tho.
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Oh okay. Yeah, he looked familiar but couldn't place it. Guess I've only seen him through a webcam wearing a hat on the lifted tater segments.
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That's a Ted talk I'd actually watch.
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I’ve always kinda thought they seem really similar but really different…..a game or skate would be sick but for every letter they’d have to pick a topic out of a hat and do a minute of content : construction, art history, heinous fashion choices…..wheelbase…..
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Ted De Gros
https://youtube.com/shorts/zIpewKkb8GI?feature=share
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XzCxYZ_Gl0&ab_channel=BenDegros
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He didn't change my mind on loose trucks
But I did get joy from seeing how much joy he was having in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8eblEGN7go
Daddy Ben screwing around
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He didn't change my mind on loose trucks
“Look how much worse I skate with loose trucks!” (Proceeds to skate better than 95% of skateboarders half his age)
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Ted De Gros
https://youtube.com/shorts/zIpewKkb8GI?feature=share
The smile this put on my face. Thanks for posting
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Listened to this while on the bus to the session and did tighten my trucks prior to skating. He's partially right on the pinch for tricks on looser trucks - it's easier to get into them, but I find it harder to hold grinds for longer because the hanger wants to shift around more. Looser trucks also means less tension on the bushings when exiting, so you don't a satisfying pop out of crooked grinds.
Tighter trucks definitely help for straight flip tricks, on 180 flip tricks I have to be more deliberate with the flick since you can't pre-load the rotation and flip as much.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XzCxYZ_Gl0&ab_channel=BenDegros
i agree with him, i followed trent bc max palmer
my skating improved immensely the moment i went back to medium loose trucks
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Yeah 100% agree. If your trucks are rattling that's just unnecessary looseness
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Rattly trucks feel soooo much more fun to bomb around on and everything you land feels like a banger. I am however landing more trix with bushings in place. Who would have thought ???
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Loose trucks are the way for me. I tried tight back truck ism in 97 or 98 after a break. It really only helps tre flip pop. Also fakie Manny.
You only need the back truck tighter ism for that really. Once you lock it back in again I can go back to normal looseness
Having both trucks loose is better for my switch stuff for sure.
Otherwise I'd just be skating my tail always
My favorite shit is the feeling one gets when their bolts are rattling. Bombing a hill with the back truck shimmy.
Oh yeah. I fucking love it. Ovals are the shit.
Fereal tho ....
The trend is kinda bad tho.
I miss being the only one with broken ass trucks.
I don't like being compared to Daewon either. Matt Rodriguez is a better come
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He did a follow up short about the loose trucks to still say stop doing it, definitely his "old man yells at cloud" moment. I get it, but then again i dont really film myself skating and like how the loose board feels.
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His screaming at a cloud video wasn’t even correct though. His trucks were tight. He moved his board and the trucks didn’t flop. That’s not loose.
And yeah I agree with you @Uncle Flea Matt is a way better comparison, or you could go back a few years and say Winsor. To the best of my knowledge, he was the one who started the Sacto flop. Still runs them like that too.
Okay, I’m done screaming at the screaming at a cloud video.
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That was dumb. He‘s just not used to it so he has problems doing it. There are also riser pads and other little tricks to prevent wheel bite, by the way.
It all comes down to what you are accustomed to. I can‘t even skate around on some of my friends boards who have super tight trucks. If I made a video about tight trucks ruining your tricks it would look very similar. I can‘t 360 flip at all on a board with tight trucks and carving a bowl would be impossible for me too.
However my trucks are loose, but not super loose either. What‘s ironic too is that the poster boys of super loose trucks like Matt Rodriguez and Daewon skate models that won‘t turn, however loose they are.
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His screaming at a cloud video wasn’t even correct though. His trucks were tight. He moved his board and the trucks didn’t flop. That’s not loose.
And yeah I agree with you @Uncle Flea Matt is a way better comparison, or you could go back a few years and say Winsor. To the best of my knowledge, he was the one who started the Sacto flop. Still runs them like that too.
Okay, I’m done screaming at the screaming at a cloud video.
yeah he took the washers out and then still cranked the kingpin down..
i'd say i skate medium loose and his board here seems to react like mine does (without any altering). this definitly wasn't rattly loose.
the whole video makes no sense anyway. you cant just alter your truck tightness drasticly and expect to skate the same as you normally do. these are usually gradual changes. and that goes for either going looser or tighter.
kinda feel like some tight truckers have this same insecurity as helmet wearers where they feel like they have to defend themselves before anyone even says anything.
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Is he still riding the Venture lows? Looks like it.
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I skate vanilla missionary position medium trucks but I’m not stressin
Some skaters look like they could benefit from a slight tighten, if you will.
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Love how he calls lose trucks a trend, when it was a trend like 10 years ago :D
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I'm glad there is someone out there making videos on the exhaustive specifics of skateboarding. His mini ramp construction series was very informative, and his trucks tier list and woodshop review collabs with gifted hater were awesome.
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I skate flush but everybody stepping on my board thinks that’s super loose. Those are old guys tho, used to the tight trucks of the old days. Or Thunder enjoyers. Or both combined.
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I like a slight rattle in my front truck and a solid loose-medium in the back one. I shave down my ace bushings and remove all washers from the front truck and the top one from the back.
I tried tightening my front truck recently because i was worried i was fucking myself, and I did notice it was easier to get out of crooked grinds... everything else sucked. I was expecting flip tricks to feel awesome, but I am so used to doing little counter balances when i preload for shit that things felt off with the tighter front. I know you can grow accustomed to anything if you skate it long enough, but I've already spent years learning to skate loose.
The biggest thing was that i missed the feeling of being able to suddenly change direction or quickly correct direction. That is a feeling i have to have if im gonna enjoy skating fully, it just feels right.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohs84hMcQGGK62yuA/giphy.gif)
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I take that video as advise for beginners. It's hard to learn the basics getting wheel bite stationary.
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There are definitely people who treat loose trucks like a contest rather than a utility and I feel like that video is definitely aimed toward them. If you can't push in a straight line because your trucks are rattling out of control, then they're too loose for you.
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I try to just leave it exactly the way it comes now. I did tighten the Aces just slightly, maybe 1 thread, but next time I get a new set I am just going to leave it. I experimented with different bushings and and realized I just like the stock ones for the most part.
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I try to just leave it exactly the way it comes now. I did tighten the Aces just slightly, maybe 1 thread, but next time I get a new set I am just going to leave it. I experimented with different bushings and and realized I just like the stock ones for the most part.
I used to do this until I noticed that the factory tightness was random. One brand new truck had one thread showing and one was flush. After that, my third eye opened and I just make both flush until the bushings break in then adjust from there.
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I try to just leave it exactly the way it comes now. I did tighten the Aces just slightly, maybe 1 thread, but next time I get a new set I am just going to leave it. I experimented with different bushings and and realized I just like the stock ones for the most part.
This is the way to go, at least for me. I skate my Ace's flush and I'll do some very minor tightening as they start to get looser while skating them.
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I try to just leave it exactly the way it comes now. I did tighten the Aces just slightly, maybe 1 thread, but next time I get a new set I am just going to leave it. I experimented with different bushings and and realized I just like the stock ones for the most part.
I noticed it wasnt exactly the same on my thunders, but it was close enough i didnt need to touch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ZVdQc9oDY
I noticed also when I used the combination of OJ Wheels, Indys, + Bronson Bearings, it works absolutely perfect. you can tighten the nut all the way and it spins perfectly. I think though it wouldnt work if you were using a skinnier wheel? Or maybe it doesnt matter, its about the space in the middle .
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Ben is exactly right about spacers. Either the spacer is too large and it keeps the bearings from being seated properly inside the wheel, or the wheel is perfectly formed and the spacer is completely redundant. They are absolutely useless.
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As a former defender of spacers, I'll take the L. No more spacers for me.
I've actually just recently been having issues where one of my bearings won't stay seated, probably because of the spacer.
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Dang, can’t say I’ve ever tightened down my truck axle nut like that, spacers or not! Ive only seen that on Walmart and toys r us completes. They do it for safety to make the board a snail for kids.
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Dang, can’t say I’ve ever tightened down my truck axle nut like that, spacers or not! Ive only seen that on Walmart and toys r us completes. They do it for safety to make the board a snail for kids.
No, it's not a safety thing, they just do it with a power tool in every factory, walmart & legit brands included
That's the first thing you usually do when you unbox completes at the shop, make the axle nuts looser to prevent a noob customer from being like "oh it doesn't spin it's most def a bad skateboard"
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Who actually wants to tighten their axle nut all the way down to the wheel? It looks bad and say goodbye to your threads after you land primo a few times
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Who actually wants to tighten their axle nut all the way down to the wheel? It looks bad and say goodbye to your threads after you land primo a few times
When Ishod said that he uses three washers and just tightens the nut enough so it stays on but doesn't show threads I started doing that. Then when Foy said that he does the same with the nut but doesn't use washers 'cause it helps him lock in better I started doing that. I like both ways but I still suck
I never use spacers and I only skate swiss and swiss ceramics
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Who actually wants to tighten their axle nut all the way down to the wheel? It looks bad and say goodbye to your threads after you land primo a few times
When Ishod said that he uses three washers and just tightens the nut enough so it stays on but doesn't show threads I started doing that. Then when Foy said that he does the same with the nut but doesn't use washers 'cause it helps him lock in better I started doing that. I like both ways but I still suck
I never use spacers and I only skate swiss and swiss ceramics
Yeah I’ve been doing the Ishod 3 washer setup since I found that out (on Slap) and it’s perfect
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I do it…..and you wanna know why?
Koo….koo…..
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I skate spacers but also don't crank my wheels down completely. Maybe it's mental, but it just feels more together, complete and feels like it puts less pressure on the core and keeps it stable. And the only times I ripped/fucked the core of the wheel or blown bearings was when I didn't have spacers, due to bearing on urethane pressure (like in power slides, sharpe turns, crooked landings etc) rather than keeping it bearing on metal. Never skated without spacers since, never had a problem. Spacers all day. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nP3AJHiz6s
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Who actually wants to tighten their axle nut all the way down to the wheel? It looks bad and say goodbye to your threads after you land primo a few times
When Ishod said that he uses three washers and just tightens the nut enough so it stays on but doesn't show threads I started doing that. Then when Foy said that he does the same with the nut but doesn't use washers 'cause it helps him lock in better I started doing that. I like both ways but I still suck
I never use spacers and I only skate swiss and swiss ceramics
Yeah I’ve been doing the Ishod 3 washer setup since I found that out (on Slap) and it’s perfect
yeh i been doing it too, but because i got sick & tired of having to buy new trucks because my axle wore down too much
lock ins feel decent so i wont knock it
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Who actually wants to tighten their axle nut all the way down to the wheel? It looks bad and say goodbye to your threads after you land primo a few times
When Ishod said that he uses three washers and just tightens the nut enough so it stays on but doesn't show threads I started doing that. Then when Foy said that he does the same with the nut but doesn't use washers 'cause it helps him lock in better I started doing that. I like both ways but I still suck
I never use spacers and I only skate swiss and swiss ceramics
Yeah I’ve been doing the Ishod 3 washer setup since I found that out (on Slap) and it’s perfect
yeh i been doing it too, but because i got sick & tired of having to buy new trucks because my axle wore down too much
lock ins feel decent so i wont knock it
3 + 1 washers for life, rethreading is almost always a lost cause since the nut never fits snug anymore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUsOQ7ZdcoE
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Ben D is Braille for Dads and i love it
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Ben D is Braille for Dads and i love it
How are you sir
(but you're right)
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Ben D is Braille for Dads and i love it
That was my thoughts when i started this thread. His carpenter channel is kinda sick too.
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Is there a proper definition of tightness? I keep mine flush with the kingpin but have no idea if that’s considered medium or loose? I’ve had people tell me they ride loose trucks and then I hop on the board and I can barely turn without tic tacking. I never paid attention to any of this stuff when I was young
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Is there a proper definition of tightness? I keep mine flush with the kingpin but have no idea if that’s considered medium or loose? I’ve had people tell me they ride loose trucks and then I hop on the board and I can barely turn without tic tacking. I never paid attention to any of this stuff when I was young
Not sure if you've noticed, but the earth's gravity has different wanted levels for different people. So truck tightness has more variables than the amount of kingpin threads showing.
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Is there a proper definition of tightness? I keep mine flush with the kingpin but have no idea if that’s considered medium or loose? I’ve had people tell me they ride loose trucks and then I hop on the board and I can barely turn without tic tacking. I never paid attention to any of this stuff when I was young
Yeah, being 6’2” and 225, my board feels in the middle to me but all my short king friends say it won’t turn at all.
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Is there a proper definition of tightness? I keep mine flush with the kingpin but have no idea if that’s considered medium or loose? I’ve had people tell me they ride loose trucks and then I hop on the board and I can barely turn without tic tacking. I never paid attention to any of this stuff when I was young
Yeah, being 6’2” and 225, my board feels in the middle to me but all my short king friends say it won’t turn at all.
I'm 6'4 175lbs and I find a flush kingpin nut is a pretty perfect medium for me.
I do the front truck flush and the back truck 1 or 2 threads showing (I like the back truck a hair tighter, helps my 360 flips suck less)
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A lot of small pros skate with trucks completely cranked down (Nyjah, David Gonzalez, Westgate) I think because they are skating so ridiculously fast that their inertia means those trucks can still turn in the way that they want them to.
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Where did you see Westgate cranking? The one setup video I found shows him with Bones Mediums run dead flush.
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Where did you see Westgate cranking? The one setup video I found shows him with Bones Mediums run dead flush.
I might be misremembering about him specifically, but I just have a memory of a shot on his deck where you could see more than a few threads showing on the kingpin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM40UvN3NP0
Little teaser of This new ledge ft Ben Degros
His skate compound just keeps getting better. Mad jealous of that setup and new ledge. I wanna see Ben's video on it drop soon hopefully.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM40UvN3NP0
Little teaser of This new ledge ft Ben Degros
His skate compound just keeps getting better. Mad jealous of that setup and new ledge. I wanna see Ben's video on it drop soon hopefully.
Ben’s description was perfect- 15”, just tall enough to force you to pop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H750XXVp-BQ
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Ernie's actually did redo a version of the scam kinda recently. It had the sole the windrow and the new Aurelien has.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTOiGpyNsmY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPtbBHlA5-s
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Spoiler: He did not
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Ben has just gotta accept that for the park and ledge skating he doesn't Indy doesn't make a truck that really fits what he wants.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apN7wxRPJl4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apN7wxRPJl4
It's been awhile since I've seen someone say "Gee-zus" when pronouncing Jesus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaZzB4vlAs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwCqOIoyFtw
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:'(
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you will be missed ben
thanks for the blood sweat and tears (ligaments)
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Dam will miss him
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Ben is a real one. I wouldn’t be on this site if it wasn’t for him. I started this journey nearly two years ago and his videos were some of the first I ran across. Sure, he passed his madness on to me, but he taught me so much.
I get wanting to skate in private. Feeling the need to create content is exhausting. Like it’s nice to just skate and chill, even posting on here often can be a pain.
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This was a bummer but I get it. Ben became a a solid brand. If someone mentioned Ben, you knew who they were talking about.
I a world where moose post his day in the life ( avoid work while clocked in) and Jeff Wong Song is trying inward heel flip 540 down 10 (with moose). Be Ben.
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My favorite skate channel on YouTube. Really a bummer.
I hope he eventually decides to come back or posts a few videos every once in a while.
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Damn that sucks, Ben is such a cool insightful guy. Still, I can’t see myself taking up some childish hobby like drywall just to keep seeing him.
Au revoir Ben
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Damn this is a real bummer. Hope he comes back one day. I’ve always enjoyed his videos.
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He was one of the few non-cringe SkateTubers. Seems like you have to be insufferable to blow up on there. And it’s funny he has no desire to skate &&’s deck. That must be awful, throwing away sessions just for content, especially at 40+ years old with bad knees.
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damn :(. i found ben’s channel at the start of the pandemic. binged watched every video of his throughout that time. still am in touch with his recent uploads too. as corny as this sounds, shit got me thru the pandemic. thanks ben ❤️
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legit devastated....damn :'(
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He was a big reason wny I got back into skating. It was cool seeing an older dude being a skate nerd and rip constantly.
At least we got still all that content!
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My favorite skate channel on YouTube. Really a bummer.
I hope he eventually decides to come back or posts a few videos every once in a while.
This is exactly what he said he would be doing eventually as well as the odd insta post. I guess we'll have to convert to his carpentry channel
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I feel like I just got broken up with.
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Ben talking about how weird and wrong a setup felt only to perfectly rattle off each and every flip trick was one of the greatest bits in recent skate content history. Hats off to a real one.
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Being a dad who holds a day job, skates at an above average level and also obsesses about gear made him the most relatable personality for older skaters who were getting back into skateboarding. I'm glad he rode that wave of YT popularity, made some money and left with his integrity mostly in check.
He definitely infected everyone on Shoes & Gear a bad case of gear madness, despite which I'm happy that I have a better understanding of why my setup the way it does. Going through that madness has helped many of us narrow down our setups and dispelled a lot of mystery around the skate industry, specifically on woodshops.
I'll continue to revisit the old wheel and deck reviews if I need some white noise while working.
If you're lurking on here - thanks for the videos Ben.
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We'll see if he really can't handle quitting web activity.In his last sentences he aleready says he'll post on IG and sometimes on YT.The "monster" he fed won't let him go so easily.
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We'll see if he really can't handle quitting web activity.In his last sentences he aleready says he'll post on IG and sometimes on YT.The "monster" he fed won't let him go so easily.
Yeah, you don't have to go back too far in his history to find his "I'm quitting Instagram" video, and now he's back. I imagine we'll get the occasional video with Ben and this is a rather dramatic pronouncement that they won't be coming regularly.
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Damn, he basically ended up riding what he was on in the first video. A lesson in gear madness to us all.
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Damn, he basically ended up riding what he was on in the first video. A lesson in gear madness to us all.
Prob wanted to stop posting so he doesn't get clowned when he starts wearing the tiro pants again
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If he ment it, he woulda just stopped posting. The masculine need to post content I guess.
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dang, this carpenter can sure skate
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If he ment it, he woulda just stopped posting. The masculine need to post content I guess.
Or perhaps he wants to say goodbye to his fans and let them know what’s up, rather than just disappear. Based on the posts in this thread and YouTube comments, his videos have meant a lot to people and he’s probably aware of that.
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If he ment it, he woulda just stopped posting. The masculine need to post content I guess.
Or perhaps he wants to say goodbye to his fans and let them know what’s up, rather than just disappear. Based on the posts in this thread and YouTube comments, his videos have meant a lot to people and he’s probably aware of that.
Ben seriously just pulled the "Canadian goodbye" by leaving the party as conscientiously as he possibly could.
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If he ment it, he woulda just stopped posting. The masculine need to post content I guess.
Or perhaps he wants to say goodbye to his fans and let them know what’s up, rather than just disappear. Based on the posts in this thread and YouTube comments, his videos have meant a lot to people and he’s probably aware of that.
Exactly, it’s not a stretch to say Ben’s content has enriched the lives of many. I started my skating journey later than most, and I wouldn’t be on this site without Ben. He was talking about the woodshop thread, and I got curious and checked this place out.
Just ghosting everyone would’ve been pointless. Especially since he still posts on the drywall channel and IG, why not give a reason why the skate videos are ending?
But I’m happy for him. Skateboarding gear YouTube content isn’t sustainable. There’s a few channels I watched that stopped posting. And let’s be honest, what more is there to say about trucks, decks, and wheels?
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Damn this is kind of a bummer but I get it. I came across his channel about 5 years ago when I was one of the many 30+ dudes trying to get back into skating. Was awesome to see a localish guy who's last name I recognized from being a big fan of Ted from the North days. Didn't hurt that Ben was a very talented skater himself and a well spoken all around nice seeming fella. I was hoping he'd finish the video about the making of his latest concrete ledge but I guess he's just over it. With his work, other channel and 4(?) kids I can't imagine it's easy to find the time for something you may have lost the passion doing.
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Damn this is kind of a bummer but I get it. I came across his channel about 5 years ago when I was one of the many 30+ dudes trying to get back into skating. Was awesome to see a localish guy who's last name I recognized from being a big fan of Ted from the North days. Didn't hurt that Ben was a very talented skater himself and a well spoken all around nice seeming fella. I was hoping he'd finish the video about the making of his latest concrete ledge but I guess he's just over it. With his work, other channel and 4(?) kids I can't imagine it's easy to find the time for something you may have lost the passion doing.
Just a shame we didn't get the Ben and Ted joint part, Ted's North part is beautiful
https://youtu.be/3on2xRnsZdk?si=JQEzlM6hYS0uAtir
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Yeah, that would have been awesome but I don't think Ted skates much these days. At least Ben blessed us with a bit of modern Ted footage in the form of a YouTube short.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zIpewKkb8GI
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He saw that the only way he can get decent views is when he collabs with GH
Upon that realization he decided not to try and keep up with catering to the gen z demographic
He’ll keep posting but only when the stars align on low effort edit + relevant topic for easy views
Basically just told his audience he’s done grinding skate YT for views
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I feel like I just got broken up with.
It’s not you, it’s me.
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Dear Benny,
If I saw you in skate heaven
Would you know my name?
:'(
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Nine Club talking about Ben tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6JvxQB0TQ
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Nine Club talking about Ben tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6JvxQB0TQ
Haven’t watched nine Club in ages. Thanks for the reminder, what a pile of dog shit that show is.
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Not skating but its still Ben on his other channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeqAQLC6Ync
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https://youtube.com/shorts/Ti4zOXe3IB8?si=0yytGnrvf51aHIEd
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Well apart from his anti vaccination rhetoric I’m kinda sad he’s done with his channel.
https://youtu.be/uwCqOIoyFtw?si=w4eVNEYFxQi8g9cn
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If only there were a thread where this two month old videos with more than 100,000 views had been discussed.
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Have you been in a coma?
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Have you been in a coma?
Yeah I haven’t been on here in awhile as well watched his videos so it’s a surprise to me.
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
There was a thread about it a year ago or so also he mentioned something about it on his vlog, which to me it’s lame to say that shit when it’s unnecessary amongst the Covid-19’s conspiracies.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1h7EoJvCUS/
Oh snap
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Yeah just came to post this. Hope it's not all YouTube and money talk.
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Based on the description, seems like he'll talk about Ted, his past addictions, etc so I'm hoping it follows the more traditional format that other pros on the show have done.
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
if there is anything i have learned in 2023 there is no point to even bring stuff like this up it will just bum people out, regardless what side they are or arent on. people are going to make their own choices about this shit and no need to try and push your personal take on anyone else (not saying you were trying to do that) i am just avoiding conversations about shit like this from now on. i have a couple friends who i like to talk to about this kind of stuff just so i dont go completely insane in my own thoughts but i have decided for me especially i will never discuss this type of shit online. i just cant for so many reasons.
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
if there is anything i have learned in 2023 there is no point to even bring stuff like this up it will just bum people out, regardless what side they are or arent on. people are going to make their own choices about this shit and no need to try and push your personal take on anyone else (not saying you were trying to do that) i am just avoiding conversations about shit like this from now on. i have a couple friends who i like to talk to about this kind of stuff just so i dont go completely insane in my own thoughts but i have decided for me especially i will never discuss this type of shit online. i just cant for so many reasons.
Yup. There’s so many fucking kooks out there, I’d rather just not know.
Glad he’s on Nine Club. Good way to start the new year.
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
if there is anything i have learned in 2023 there is no point to even bring stuff like this up it will just bum people out, regardless what side they are or arent on. people are going to make their own choices about this shit and no need to try and push your personal take on anyone else (not saying you were trying to do that) i am just avoiding conversations about shit like this from now on. i have a couple friends who i like to talk to about this kind of stuff just so i dont go completely insane in my own thoughts but i have decided for me especially i will never discuss this type of shit online. i just cant for so many reasons.
Glad he’s on Nine Club. Good way to start the new year.
Yeah I think I was bummed about his personal stuff, but I’m hyped for him and his channel. Glad he’s got on the nine club.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1h7EoJvCUS/
Oh snap
He made it and kudos to 9Club
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bummed they did not talk more about skating in vancouver and about Ted. did not touch on the addiction thing at all like they claimed in the headline - not that i even necessarily want to hear about it (ok i do a little bit) - but why are you trying to sell the podcast when he touched on that for like, 10 seconds...
a lot of the stuff he said in this interview he has said in his videos already - but i would say he does kind of give a really really good synopsis of what his entire channel is about. to the point where if you havent checked it out already you would probably be pretty interested to go back and watch the old videos.
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They go off tangent but Ben's good at pulling them back on track. I'm surprised Kelly Hart is getting more tolerable, his fanboy enthusiasm helps guide the conversation and will let the guest open up.
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imagine a ben x roger podcast and they interview Paul Schmitt
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Why do you say Ben’s anti vax?
if there is anything i have learned in 2023 there is no point to even bring stuff like this up it will just bum people out, regardless what side they are or arent on. people are going to make their own choices about this shit and no need to try and push your personal take on anyone else (not saying you were trying to do that) i am just avoiding conversations about shit like this from now on. i have a couple friends who i like to talk to about this kind of stuff just so i dont go completely insane in my own thoughts but i have decided for me especially i will never discuss this type of shit online. i just cant for so many reasons.
Yeah well said. it’s just unhealthy and I don’t give a shit anymore. It’s just a one way ticket into a rage slide of us vs them and we’re all fuckin trying and struggling and sliding around in this world.
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They go off tangent but Ben's good at pulling them back on track. I'm surprised Kelly Hart is getting more tolerable, his fanboy enthusiasm helps guide the conversation and will let the guest open up.
As annoying and memable as his laughing can be, he is usually the most researched guy on the show even if it's an accidental byproduct of his nerdery.
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They go off tangent but Ben's good at pulling them back on track. I'm surprised Kelly Hart is getting more tolerable, his fanboy enthusiasm helps guide the conversation and will let the guest open up.
His encyclopedia knowledge of 411s and 2000s era skate videos helped the Arto episode out.
2 hours with Ben seemed just long enough for his audience who have been following him for years, nothing we didn't already know but he deserves the shine after doing YT for 7 (?) years. He took an alternative path to the industry and he can finally enjoy some custom made shapes from DLX which is all he ever wanted.
Re his anti-vax stance: I'll level that 2020 - 2022 was a rough and strange time for the global population and will bring out the conspiracy theorist in everyone.
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if there is anything i have learned in 2023 there is no point to even bring stuff like this up it will just bum people out, regardless what side they are or arent on. people are going to make their own choices about this shit and no need to try and push your personal take on anyone else (not saying you were trying to do that) i am just avoiding conversations about shit like this from now on. i have a couple friends who i like to talk to about this kind of stuff just so i dont go completely insane in my own thoughts but i have decided for me especially i will never discuss this type of shit online. i just cant for so many reasons.
Yeah well said. it’s just unhealthy and I don’t give a shit anymore. It’s just a one way ticket into a rage slide of us vs them and we’re all fuckin trying and struggling and sliding around in this world.
Truly only the most tedious people are still attempting to litigate the vax/anti-vax argument in 2024.
FWIW, as I recall, the only thing Ben did was express skepticism in an Instagram story and then say he wasn’t going to publicly discuss his political opinions any more.
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I was just stoked to hear Kelly say they were currently working on getting the Accel back to it's glory days. Keep working on that Kelly.
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I was just stoked to hear Kelly say they were currently working on getting the Accel back to it's glory days. Keep working on that Kelly.
i feel like that ship has kinda sailed already personally... but i would give them another chance if an updated design were to come out. i would likely wait for reviews though.
also i cant believe ben didnt tell us what wheels he was going to use at the Venice Beach curbs... guess we will have to wait and see
i am guessing x formulas or 97a f4s. cant see him on OJs or anything like that but who knows.
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I was just stoked to hear Kelly say they were currently working on getting the Accel back to it's glory days. Keep working on that Kelly.
I was hyped on that too, though it did make me lament the fact he’s not more transparent with es like that. Like with es fan base and buyers right now they should just lean into full transparency with plans. They’ve already embraced the ig skate shoe community and it’s working well , hopefully etnies takes notice and gives Ben some time.
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I was just stoked to hear Kelly say they were currently working on getting the Accel back to it's glory days. Keep working on that Kelly.
I was hyped on that too, though it did make me lament the fact he’s not more transparent with es like that. Like with es fan base and buyers right now they should just lean into full transparency with plans. They’ve already embraced the ig skate shoe community and it’s working well , hopefully etnies takes notice and gives Ben some time.
Rework the sole of the Accel to improve durability - take some of the tech from Etnies Michelin / Emerica G6 to improve the soles on eS.
Give deserving pros like TJ / Asta / Wade actual pro models instead of just colorways - I know it's more cost effective to do colorways instead of signature shoes but if Aurelien and && can have one on Etnies so should the guys I mentioned above.
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And I'm definitely ready to cop a shape he helps design for DLX. He said the Slap Heads have to try everything new!
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(https://i.imgflip.com/8bfx40.jpg)
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I don't usually listen to the nine club, but I might listen to this one. why do people bring up the anti wax thing? it doesn't matter any more. now its inflation and war. I have no strong opinion on either wax or anti wax. i got it so i could travel back then, but don't think about it any more, so should you. the world has to much division. peace!
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Guess who's back?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juWsJ6goAJw
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dam he makes skating looks tiring
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
I owe that guy. I was having trouble returning to tricks. And had spent 14 years riding soft wheels every day. Chopper bikes. Graffiti.
Then I blew out my knee like first month back. I watched the videos. I avoided getting hopelessly on drugs again.
I fuckin finished the Clinic right when it happened too so I was in extra pain. 12 years wasted on that crap. Along with being a long bloarder but on old craile stuff.
I had to skate I wasn't going to make it.
He gave me the drive to go get what I wanted back. I've gotten so much more out of it this time.
I'll always respect and appreciate the Pal up north.
May he skate a thousand years.
I owe you pals as much if not more.
I love skatebloarding in 2024. This is the best shit on the planet.
(So glad I didn't fall for Kyro like so many of the other ex junkies I know did) how?
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
I owe that guy. I was having trouble returning to tricks. And had spent 14 years riding soft wheels every day. Chopper bikes. Graffiti.
Then I blew out my knee like first month back. I watched the videos. I avoided getting hopelessly on drugs again.
I fuckin finished the Clinic right when it happened too so I was in extra pain. 12 years wasted on that crap. Along with being a long bloarder but on old craile stuff.
I had to skate I wasn't going to make it.
He gave me the drive to go get what I wanted back. I've gotten so much more out of it this time.
I'll always respect and appreciate the Pal up north.
May he skate a thousand years.
I owe you pals as much if not more.
I love skatebloarding in 2024. This is the best shit on the planet.
(So glad I didn't fall for Kyro like so many of the other ex junkies I know did) how?
May you skate a thousand years. Glad you’re still with us.
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
I owe that guy. I was having trouble returning to tricks. And had spent 14 years riding soft wheels every day. Chopper bikes. Graffiti.
Then I blew out my knee like first month back. I watched the videos. I avoided getting hopelessly on drugs again.
I fuckin finished the Clinic right when it happened too so I was in extra pain. 12 years wasted on that crap. Along with being a long bloarder but on old craile stuff.
I had to skate I wasn't going to make it.
He gave me the drive to go get what I wanted back. I've gotten so much more out of it this time.
I'll always respect and appreciate the Pal up north.
May he skate a thousand years.
I owe you pals as much if not more.
I love skatebloarding in 2024. This is the best shit on the planet.
(So glad I didn't fall for Kyro like so many of the other ex junkies I know did) how?
we love u Uncle Flea. you make this world and these boards a better place!
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
I owe that guy. I was having trouble returning to tricks. And had spent 14 years riding soft wheels every day. Chopper bikes. Graffiti.
Then I blew out my knee like first month back. I watched the videos. I avoided getting hopelessly on drugs again.
I fuckin finished the Clinic right when it happened too so I was in extra pain. 12 years wasted on that crap. Along with being a long bloarder but on old craile stuff.
I had to skate I wasn't going to make it.
He gave me the drive to go get what I wanted back. I've gotten so much more out of it this time.
I'll always respect and appreciate the Pal up north.
May he skate a thousand years.
I owe you pals as much if not more.
I love skatebloarding in 2024. This is the best shit on the planet.
(So glad I didn't fall for Kyro like so many of the other ex junkies I know did) how?
Thanks. It's good to be here
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
I owe that guy. I was having trouble returning to tricks. And had spent 14 years riding soft wheels every day. Chopper bikes. Graffiti.
Then I blew out my knee like first month back. I watched the videos. I avoided getting hopelessly on drugs again.
I fuckin finished the Clinic right when it happened too so I was in extra pain. 12 years wasted on that crap. Along with being a long bloarder but on old craile stuff.
I had to skate I wasn't going to make it.
He gave me the drive to go get what I wanted back. I've gotten so much more out of it this time.
I'll always respect and appreciate the Pal up north.
May he skate a thousand years.
I owe you pals as much if not more.
I love skatebloarding in 2024. This is the best shit on the planet.
(So glad I didn't fall for Kyro like so many of the other ex junkies I know did) how?
Thanks yo. Ilu2.
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Ben's videos definitely fed into my madness, which in turn made me want to skate more to get over the madness. I've watched the Radial Slims, Venture 5.6 / V-Hollow, Thunder vs Venture videos more times than I can recall, just having it on as background noise is good for me.
Can't wait to see what he got up to at the BBS woodshop and Soletec, even excited for the Sewa board check.
Looking at him skating the Primitive park is a good reminder that he's shop flow good or 90s era good. Not a knock on him but looking at the level of skating coming out of the AMs on primitive is a good reminder of how elite pro skaters are.
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I actually can’t remember the first time I actually watched Ben’s vids but I do remember one popping up into my YouTube feed randomly and thinking “who is this guy, is this Ted’s brother?” This was probably 2021 or so. Maybe longer. At first I wasn’t super interested. But I’d talk to more and more skaters who seemed to know who he was and once they confirmed he was Ted’s brother I really wanted to check it out cause I was a massive North 1 fan. If you haven’t seen teds part from it you are in for a REAL treat.
https://youtu.be/sdFS4f9YsEA
I think the only piece of gear I have changed because of Ben is I switched to thunder trucks and spitfire classics. I was already wanting to try both though and his vids kinda sealed the deal.
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I’ve watched his stuff from time to time. Try not to pay a ton of attention so I don’t get sucked into the madness. But I do appreciate his liking of Venture lo’s.
So Ben if your lurking, get dlx to make wider than 5.25 lo’s for some of us.
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maybe one of the biggest take aways I've gotten from watching Ben was in that session with GH he brought grapes as a snack.....
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Who else has been watching Ben since day one?
Ben and I go "way" back. Somehow we connected at the very beginning and would chat often. He told me what his long-term plan was for the channel, and we actually bounced ideas back and forth for awhile. Then he found his groove and the rest is history. So, yeah, "since day one."
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maybe one of the biggest take aways I've gotten from watching Ben was in that session with GH he brought grapes as a snack.....
As a healthy snacker, I felt validated.
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maybe one of the biggest take aways I've gotten from watching Ben was in that session with GH he brought grapes as a snack.....
As a healthy snacker, I felt validated.
That's kinda scary tho. Ben x jack the ripper.
Heeeeeeey Gh get in my buggy I got grapes!
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So in that Dan Corrigan vid where he is filming Ben at the skatepark, what deck is that Ben is riding? Did I hear right that it is still the same wheelbase (14), but the length is 32? That seems like it would be a crazy long nose and tail for low trucks.
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So in that Dan Corrigan vid where he is filming Ben at the skatepark, what deck is that Ben is riding? Did I hear right that it is still the same wheelbase (14), but the length is 32? That seems like it would be a crazy long nose and tail for low trucks.
There are some boards that might seem too long, but actually work quite well, especially on Venture trucks, or work better than it might seem on paper with those dimensions.
A couple of boards in that category recently showed they had 6.7 to 6.8 tails and 6.9 to 7 noses in similar dimensions, 14 wb on a 32 length.
DLX has been doing a few shapes like that, the Real tropical dream series, then scanner series, on the same shapes.
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I love his channel and I’m glad Ben is back, but it’s pretty funny that he made a “goodbye” video and was back in a shorter interval than his regular videos were sometimes released.
It’s obvious that he feels pressure to made videos regularly and I suppose that’s what you need to do to stay profitable on YouTube, but it’s clear to me that he could have an entirely irregular schedule of producing stuff when he feels like it and his skate channel would remain as popular as ever.
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I love his channel and I’m glad Ben is back, but it’s pretty funny that he made a “goodbye” video and was back in a shorter interval than his regular videos were sometimes released.
It’s obvious that he feels pressure to made videos regularly and I suppose that’s what you need to do to stay profitable on YouTube, but it’s clear to me that he could have an entirely irregular schedule of producing stuff when he feels like it and his skate channel would remain as popular as ever.
You know how you call "one last try", and it is anything but?
Ben's a real skater.
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I actually can’t remember the first time I actually watched Ben’s vids but I do remember one popping up into my YouTube feed randomly and thinking “who is this guy, is this Ted’s brother?” This was probably 2021 or so. Maybe longer. At first I wasn’t super interested. But I’d talk to more and more skaters who seemed to know who he was and once they confirmed he was Ted’s brother I really wanted to check it out cause I was a massive North 1 fan. If you haven’t seen teds part from it you are in for a REAL treat.
https://youtu.be/sdFS4f9YsEA
I think the only piece of gear I have changed because of Ben is I switched to thunder trucks and spitfire classics. I was already wanting to try both though and his vids kinda sealed the deal.
Thanks for sharing, I had never seen this before. The more I watch it, the more it De Gros on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObpcGNCU944 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObpcGNCU944)
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I find it interesting how he went so hard on YouTubers who use clickbait to deceive viewers in his Nine Club interview, but then turns up in 2 Dan Corrigan videos, lol.
Which video is he on a session with GH? I need to check that out, unless it's from the other time he went to Cali last year.
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I find it interesting how he went so hard on YouTubers who use clickbait to deceive viewers in his Nine Club interview, but then turns up in 2 Dan Corrigan videos, lol.
Which video is he on a session with GH? I need to check that out, unless it's from the other time he went to Cali last year.
yep its just from when he went to cali last year.
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Which video is he on a session with GH? I need to check that out, unless it's from the other time he went to Cali last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y10PDrJjRKQ
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Which video is he on a session with GH? I need to check that out, unless it's from the other time he went to Cali last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y10PDrJjRKQ
There was this vid also uploaded to Ben's channel going thru his set up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgE7S8VlV0E
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t-3hCAsIFI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t-3hCAsIFI
You can tell crob and ben would never be friends
Why because Ben is more intelligent and attractive while supporting a family
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Crob has such a fragile ego. Him reacting to Ben‘s „critique“ on his setups was hard to watch. He‘s in the industry for nearly 30 years now and still reacts like teenager, when someone comments his setup.
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Crob has such a fragile ego. Him reacting to Ben‘s „critique“ on his setups was hard to watch. He‘s in the industry for nearly 30 years now and still reacts like teenager, when someone comments his setup.
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Crob has such a fragile ego. Him reacting to Ben‘s „critique“ on his setups was hard to watch. He‘s in the industry for nearly 30 years now and still reacts like teenager, when someone comments his setup.
They were both just having a laugh and it wasn't that serious
Might be. To me it appeared differently
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I think it’s just another case of Roberts mobbing the kickflip of sincere human interaction.
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California curb culture must be something else. I've never seen so many people convene at a curb spot. We have a couple of perfect DIY curbs here and I rarely see a session get heavy.
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California curb culture must be something else. I've never seen so many people convene at a curb spot. We have a couple of perfect DIY curbs here and I rarely see a session get heavy.
It's the land of "I can't ollie so I will let that define my entire skate personality instead of working on my body and skating so I can do more tricks and realize my actual potential." *does not apply to people with actual injuries that prevent them from trying.
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California curb culture must be something else. I've never seen so many people convene at a curb spot. We have a couple of perfect DIY curbs here and I rarely see a session get heavy.
california is a huge, this is west LA where there’s a billion skaters. Not everywhere is like that
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So in that Dan Corrigan vid where he is filming Ben at the skatepark, what deck is that Ben is riding? Did I hear right that it is still the same wheelbase (14), but the length is 32? That seems like it would be a crazy long nose and tail for low trucks.
There are some boards that might seem too long, but actually work quite well, especially on Venture trucks, or work better than it might seem on paper with those dimensions.
A couple of boards in that category recently showed they had 6.7 to 6.8 tails and 6.9 to 7 noses in similar dimensions, 14 wb on a 32 length.
DLX has been doing a few shapes like that, the Real tropical dream series, then scanner series, on the same shapes.
I full agree.
I was riding some compact boards. 8.25 14" wb like 31 long.
I did 6 of those in a row maybe more. Cuz they're local mostly. I always back the locals of all.
Looking back the nose was too short.
These Metal boards are right the fuck on tho.
I might not be able to really handle THE 9... Butt :o the fuckin 8.75 I just set up is fuckin perfect. I only fliped it once so far.
I recon it's the extra long nose in conjunction with the 13.5? WB that made it so easy to bone the fuck out of that kickflip.
I don't even wanna skate it it so sick and the street salt is so bad. I set back up the 9" and I'm going to just try to get a double of the 8.75 grasshopper shape.
I put the dims up in the wbswb thread I think.
I fuckin slaps. I definitely wanna get a short stack of those in the spring.
Pretty sure Metal is my shit for a while
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https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits?si=7tbvFv62wC-cz1-P
Sewa set up video.
I think we might be getting a PJ video next!!!
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I know it's dumb and petty of me, but it's shitting me that Ben is fronting as this pure youtube dude who doesn't wanna take part in the bullshit of youtube, whilst fake quitting for an engagement boost ahead of running this LA series.
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I know it's dumb and petty of me, but it's shitting me that Ben is fronting as this pure youtube dude who doesn't wanna take part in the bullshit of youtube, whilst fake quitting for an engagement boost ahead of running this LA series.
I don't think he fake quitted anything, I just think he got burnt out from doing the same videos of himself just talking into a camera for the sake of it, whereas now he's getting a chance to produce videos that he legitimately seems to enjoy doing, like collaborations with interesting people and making inroads in the industry. I think going on the Nine Club has helped further his chances of that too. I much prefer this sort of content over the "Is this the ideal setup?" type videos of him talking about a certain board shape followed by him skating it on that basketball court DIY and then saying "nah this isn't for me, I'll just stick to this". You could tell he got to a point where he was just churning that shit out and he desperately needed a change to keep his channel fresh.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't upload a video for 2 or 3 months then suddenly uploads a few that are completely different from anything he's done before.
If you ask me someone should pay him to travel around the globe with nothing but a skateboard and a tape measure and we'll all be happy with whatever comes of it. I'd love him to come on a trip to Britain.
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Totally agree, I like this shift too, just think he understands the YouTube algorithm too well to not have planned his quitting to channnel change as if you have a big video it pops you up in recommendations. Dunno. Glad he didn’t stop and enjoy these new vids as the old format was getting stale but he’s being a tad coy I reckon.
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Gonna agree too. I love seeing other skater’s setups, having him review and skate them is a nice change of pace. That’s one thing I love about skateboards, there’s an endless amount of configurations.
Like my setup might be one-of-one. Because how many folks are riding a Girl G053, with Ace and Indy hard bushings in their 159 Hollows, Pepper grip, Spitfire 55mm Lock In Fulls, and Bones Swiss 6?
There are so many little things you can do to tweak your setup.
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i remember the “my setup” videos on demand pre streaming
ben should definitely be the guy in charge of that today
even better with it being on his own channel
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv
I think crob is just going along with this act of his, after all his favorite person is Larry david. But I will say when Ben mentioned GH crobs silence was deafening. He really does not like him
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv (https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv)
Crob would be fuckin' envious as shit of GH. Low effort cool guy pullin' in the big bucks talking shit about the Nine Club on a cool skate team.
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv (https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv)
Or else he thinks he's a wretched snively little dork like the rest of the world.
Andy Anderson pulls in the big bucks but no one is jealous of him.
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv (https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv)
Or else he thinks he's a wretched snively little dork like the rest of the world.
Andy Anderson pulls in the big bucks but no one is jealous of him.
are you surprised
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv (https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv)
Or else he thinks he's a wretched snively little dork like the rest of the world.
Andy Anderson pulls in the big bucks but no one is jealous of him.
That’s a lot to unpack
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I'm liking this format of videos especially when the interviewee is a gear nerd like him, if he managed to chat with PJ Ladd while in LA that would easily be his most watched video.
The Crob one was a tough watch since he seemed unwilling to change anything that Ben suggested.
https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv (https://youtu.be/eAYUuxukfeA?si=slE0LLZcVqtcE5uv)
Or else he thinks he's a wretched snively little dork like the rest of the world.
Andy Anderson pulls in the big bucks but no one is jealous of him.
If you can't see the diff of hanging out with Dan Corrigan and NKA vids vs Jerry Hsu & Ryan Lay, then ok big boy.
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Gonna agree too. I love seeing other skater’s setups, having him review and skate them is a nice change of pace. That’s one thing I love about skateboards, there’s an endless amount of configurations.
Like my setup might be one-of-one. Because how many folks are riding a Girl G053, with Ace and Indy hard bushings in their 159 Hollows, Pepper grip, Spitfire 55mm Lock In Fulls, and Bones Swiss 6?
There are so many little things you can do to tweak your setup.
My current setup is a Girl G053 with Ace 55's, 52 Lock In's. I really like this setup, it's a bit on the heavy side but it flips nice and I really like the shape. For an 8.5, it really skates more like an 8.25...especially with Ace's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdee1pphlU
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so glad ben is back to feed the streets
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so glad ben is back to feed the streets
And at the end of this, he says he'll have a modified version of this "building a curb" video for his skate channel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmEp5SDCBAc
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Saw this on the Etnies insta. That shoe box on the top right says Ben De G. Not gonna lie, the Snake shoe looks cool in black.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2rR0hvcy/Screenshot-20240216-134624-Instagram.jpg)
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Saw this on the Etnies insta. That shoe box on the top right says Ben De G. Not gonna lie, the Snake shoe looks cool in black.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2rR0hvcy/Screenshot-20240216-134624-Instagram.jpg)
Skateshop day is tomorrow.
Etnies: actually…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3HaMoO6j3g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TSC9yCf7Yc
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Ben Pro AF!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TSC9yCf7Yc
That factory walk through gave me flashbacks of Stacey walking through the Powell Peralta factory in Public domain 36 years ago!
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Ben Pro AF!!!
Hes a Unicorn riding a Unicorn.
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It's only fitting that a man with four kids has a board on Bareback wood
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Great content, I love that he's getting to make interesting videos and being looked after in the industry. Those floral graphics that he was slagging off were actually pretty ghastly.
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To I was thinking that coping is so neglected we should just send kids who can't afford Woodward to Baha.
The coping needs it.
Skate/woodworking/industry kook camp.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
I understand maybe he felt uncomfortable, but getting a little jab by Jim T is like a rite of passage.
He did seem more bummed than I felt he should, but also who the fuck am I to judge.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
He did seem more bummed than I felt he should, but also who the fuck am I to judge.
Better than a "little jab" from Mickey Reyes.
But really I think, as per his Nine Club, he was never good enough to get his name on a board, so getting one now, especially with such a graphic was very much a piss take that he didn't want.
He said he would keep that one to go on the wall, with others all having nicer / different DLX graphics, which I can totally understand. Similar to the DLX team riders who don't want to see their own name on a board, but will ride other graphics from their team mates just fine.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
Yeah he came off as a bit pissy and lacking a sense of humour. Said it kinda ruined his video because he was so bummed by it, did I hear that right? Could have been a bit more thankful for the blessing of an in joke from Jim. Not a big deal but made me think he’s more uptight and less fun than I figured.
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i would have loved the unicorn boards but i also REALLY like how he got to put those custom graphics on, i mean that would be fucking AMAZING to get the chance to do that!! some really epic graphics he got on there
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im already aware that all brands come from a handful of woodshops, but its still quite a "seeing the sausage get made" type moment when he turns a BBS blank into a Real or AntiHero. I get theyre both DLX, but that could've been any other BBS wooded brand
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
Lol, yeah same. It's kinda why I stopped watching his videos. He called Dunks "normie" shoes and it rubbed me the wrong way. Like it's cringe to think that way at his age. I have tons of respect for him, but he comes across as too serious/neurotic at times. Which is something he'd probably admit to. He also joked about his madness being a mental illness once. Which is kinda true. It's pure OCD.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
He's not wrong though
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
Yeah he came off as a bit pissy and lacking a sense of humour. Said it kinda ruined his video because he was so bummed by it, did I hear that right? Could have been a bit more thankful for the blessing of an in joke from Jim. Not a big deal but made me think he’s more uptight and less fun than I figured.
Yea, this is precisely how I felt.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
He's not wrong though
He's not. I prefer the NB# 480. But it just felt lame. Like, you're 40, why do you care? It felt like a kid going out of their way just to stand out. "Oh, I can't wear those because everyone else wears them. I need to show how unique I am!"
Also, using "normie" is snobbish as fuck.
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Dunk are definitely norm coded, like 550's, chucks, and old skools.
I am, however extremely jealous of him going in to BBS, pulling and running his own graphic choices. I didn't think his unicorn aversion was that big of deal, considering the alternative is being able to run that grimple lance mountain graphic on his prefered shape. Having 8 of the same exact graphic is not that great trust me.
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Dunk are definitely norm coded, like 550's, chucks, and old skools.
I am, however extremely jealous of him going in to BBS, pulling and running his whole graphic choice. I didn't think his unicorn aversion was that big of deal, considering the alternative is being able to run that grimple lance mountain graphic on his prefered shape. Having 8 of the same exact graphic is not that great trust me.
Top ply color matters more to me than graphic tbh. If Jim T made me a custom graphic, I would rock all 8 of them with pride.
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Dunk are definitely norm coded, like 550's, chucks, and old skools.
NORMMMMM
Me
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Normie, Normie, Normie... Hockey, Normie!
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Am I the only one who thought his reaction to the unicorn print fit his character? I've been getting weirded out by his madly unfunny chuckle "jokes" in his vids forever. He seems like a guy with a dark side thats all the more scary for the nice-guy persona. There isnt an ounce of inrony in that man. However, his insights are very valuable. Ben's the epitome of an uncool skater and it would be a good look fornhim to acknowledge thar a bit more, but surely that's not why anyone is watching his videos?
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Am I the only one who thought his reaction to the unicorn print fit his character? I've been getting weirded out by his madly unfunny chuckle "jokes" in his vids forever. He seems like a guy with a dark side thats all the more scary for the nice-guy persona. There isnt an ounce of inrony in that man. However, his insights are very valuable. Ben's the epitome of an uncool skater and it would be a good look fornhim to acknowledge thar a bit more, but surely that's not why anyone is watching his videos?
I think he has acknowledged he has a dark past in some of his videos.
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Am I the only one who thought his reaction to the unicorn print fit his character? I've been getting weirded out by his madly unfunny chuckle "jokes" in his vids forever. He seems like a guy with a dark side thats all the more scary for the nice-guy persona. There isnt an ounce of inrony in that man. However, his insights are very valuable. Ben's the epitome of an uncool skater and it would be a good look fornhim to acknowledge thar a bit more, but surely that's not why anyone is watching his videos?
I think he has acknowledged he has a dark past in some of his videos.
heard a guy once held the door open for him and he didn’t even say thank you.
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I love Ben, but it was super cringe how bothered he was by the unicorn graphic.
Should've just printed them all instead of wasting them.
He did seem more bummed than I felt he should, but also who the fuck am I to judge.
Am I tripping or was his reaction fine? I feel like wasting the transfers was way better than printing them and wasting the boards that he won't feel like riding. He also said the unicorn is going on the wall, which if he didn't have a sense of humor, he wouldn't do.
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I think you guys are missing the point about the graphic. Its not because it has a unicorn on it but it has his name on it and he has been pretty adamant about not wanting a "pro board"
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Also, cut & mix the graphics up, cut the name off the unicorn and pop it on a tail, just make some fucked in the head sick ass boards.
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Am I the only one who thought his reaction to the unicorn print fit his character? I've been getting weirded out by his madly unfunny chuckle "jokes" in his vids forever. He seems like a guy with a dark side thats all the more scary for the nice-guy persona. There isnt an ounce of inrony in that man. However, his insights are very valuable. Ben's the epitome of an uncool skater and it would be a good look fornhim to acknowledge thar a bit more, but surely that's not why anyone is watching his videos?
I think he has acknowledged he has a dark past in some of his videos.
All he's said is that he used to smoke lots of weed and maybe took other drugs too. Most young people have the same story. That's not necessarily dark. What else has he said?
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He was a member of the Latin Kings before getting sober.
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He was a member of the Latin Kings before getting sober.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZ1Pz6Bz/IMG-1258.jpg)
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He was a member of the Latin Kings before getting sober.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZ1Pz6Bz/IMG-1258.jpg)
Now that's a graphic!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5u8YKaCXIU
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I like the sound of the board, it sounds similar to what I am riding from Primitive on 8.38. it has a long 6.75" tail as well. THe primitive board has a steep concave though, except for this one Robert Neal one I got in my last mystery box that is mysteriously much flatter than the others (from a 2020 drop...) I have only rode it once but I will let you know how It stacks up to the other ones - so far it seems about the same to me.
The main thing I really like the sound of is how the kicks are centered, i dont think really any other boards are like that besides twins. I also really like how the kicks are the same steepness because I feel like when there is a big difference it messes me up.
I had Anti Hero 8.5 x 14" wb last year and i didnt end up liking it as much as i thought i would. I found Nollie tricks really hard for some reason. i was on indys though maybe it would have been better on ventures or thunders. I also didnt like how short the tail was on that board at 6.5" and i didnt like how it tapered to get fatter on the nose end.
So this board sounds like it fixes pretty much all the things i didnt like about that board. 8.25" x 14.25" would be the size i would pick. I would consider this board for sure especially because it has the longer tail. The stock BBS sizes all have baby tails that would be the main thing that would bum me out about having to go blank because I have grown to really love this long tail.
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I like the idea of symmetrical kicks, not shape, but degree of kick. However, he lost me on the full SE. I just can’t skate that thing anymore the nose is gross.
It’ll be interesting to hear what other people think riding thunders Indy ace Royals whatever instead of venture seeing is that specific board was built with ventures in mind.
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Ben can do no wrong in my eyes, but I've seen enough of his content to know that him and I are like exact opposites when picking out a board. Whatever he put together aint for me, respectfully.
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Aces and a Hockey board for you…..
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Ben's constant beaming is so cute
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I really wish they were doing an 8.125 of this. It sounds really nice.
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I really wish they were doing an 8.125 of this. It sounds really nice.
Yep. I'd love an 8 tbh
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Aces and a Hockey board for you…..
Aces and Eggs!
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I really wish they were doing an 8.125 of this. It sounds really nice.
Yep. I'd love an 8 tbh
It’s real….they’ll drop an 8.126, or an 8.08
It would be sick if they let Ben give his own signature measurement…..
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Ben can do no wrong in my eyes, but I've seen enough of his content to know that him and I are like exact opposites when picking out a board. Whatever he put together aint for me, respectfully.
yeah, the same for me. He likes trucks that don't turn much and enjoys the delayed pop of "finger's of flat". I don't think I'd be able to do a single flip trick on a setup he likes.
I like that flatness and his idea of almost identical kicks, but the deck he's designed has these fingers of flat. Some of my tricks just don't work if a deck has that. 360 flips for example are nearly impossible for me with this delayed pop.
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There's a lot of Ben footage in Chris Roberts' latest upload, which is pretty cool. Chris Roberts is a funny one because I find him insufferable on The Nine Club when he's trying to appear all genuine and shit, but I find him funny and decent on his I'm Glad I'm Not Me videos when he's trying to be insufferable and corny.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMuSBWWp9Qc
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https://youtu.be/0yZU9ZAOrdM?si=y62PRbd-2iQDr4oJ
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https://youtu.be/0yZU9ZAOrdM?si=2EpmDuOEwUrwdWUK
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https://youtu.be/0yZU9ZAOrdM?si=2EpmDuOEwUrwdWUK
This was posted right above you, m8
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This was posted right above you, m8
Damn I’m washed
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He was a member of the Latin Kings before getting sober.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZ1Pz6Bz/IMG-1258.jpg)
Amore De Ray
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FU_fjYIl14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FU_fjYIl14
Shoes outstanding looking. I haven't watched this yet but I assume it's not for me. Unless they made the ball of the foot area little more padded.
It's like a very forward leaning shoe. All your weight is on the balls of your feet.
This great for popping tricks but it starts to kill my feet.
I could go back to the Ave but I'd have to invest in a second insole to cut I. Half and stuff in front of the foot bed.
I hope that adidas fixed this. Because the Superstar was my top shoe. 25 bucks at marshalls.
I wish Ellisa was on adidas. We might get the Superstar mids with the straps back.
She might be too cool now for regular shoes tho. Ellisa deserves a $400 a pair boutique custom shoes In my opinion.
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I wish Ellisa was on adidas. We might get the Superstar mids with the straps back.
They are already back, they're called the Pro Shell ADV. Check the adidas website
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FU_fjYIl14
Seeing as last time he retired his biggest regret was having sold out to a shoe company, this feels like a great move. Also am I reading too much into the fact he's not linking up with Joa while in LA?
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Nobody will be able to convince me that that monstrosity of a shoe isn't wack as fuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FU_fjYIl14
Shoe is whack and video was too.
“Vans, how do you know, I love coffee?” I’m so spoiled with flying business. What could be seen as a disclaimer, that this is advertisement, doesn’t sit well with his channel at all.
Review is only thinly veiled marketing Blabla.
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I like his YouTube comments "get that money ben, but the shoe is Ass"
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that was painful to watch. maybe the first Ben video i haven't finished
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Do you think hes contractually obliged not to objectively review (I.e. trash) the shoe or is he just being to good of a boy?
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I’m so over Ben Degros. Can we forget about him and move on with our lives already?
Him being butthurt about getting free boards with a graphic he picked was the last straw for me.
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Am I the only one that has always been massively annoyed by this dude?
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Am I the only one that has always been massively annoyed by this dude?
Nah I always thought he had an anal retentive type of vibe but Gifted Hater love(d) him so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Have never finished a video of his
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Did Ben do a favourable review on Cariuma when they were sending them to influencers?
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Am I the only one that has always been massively annoyed by this dude?
I used to think he was a bit too chipper or something but as I watched more I realized he’s kinda cool and gives no fucks. He also rips pretty hard for 40 or whatever.
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I’m so over Ben Degros. Can we forget about him and move on with our lives already?
Him being butthurt about getting free boards with a graphic he picked was the last straw for me.
Was he butt hurt? Or did he take the joke and even mentioned he'll hang up the one graphic he screened. He didn't want to put the other graphics on because he wouldn't ride em. Seems sensible and not wasteful.
Anyways, the AVE "review" video sucked.
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Did he delete his quitting youtube video?
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Did he delete his quitting youtube video?
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwCqOIoyFtw&t=25s
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I love Ben but that video was pretty bad for all the above reasons. Especially his "Oh I had the wrong wheels to skate Venice curbs" excuse. The more people become industry insider types the less interesting they seem to be I suppose. I dunno. Not for me.
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Did Ben do a favourable review on Cariuma when they were sending them to influencers?
Yeah he did and he talks about it in the quittung video posted above. This AVE vid is eerily similar. Hope the money was good...
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Am I the only one that has always been massively annoyed by this dude?
Nah I always thought he had an anal retentive type of vibe but Gifted Hater love(d) him so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Have never finished a video of his
Yeah but Gifted Hater likes Ricky Glazer & other dipshits too. I also couldn't finish that Vans video. He seemed to be giving an honest enough review, but I couldn't give less of a shit. He likes being paid though
(https://i.ibb.co/0FmZktS/Screen-Shot-2024-05-02-at-12-31-41-am.png) (https://ibb.co/0FmZktS)
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https://youtu.be/zqMfqw-tleo?si=7vEH1w5sR5UiZ7hl
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Benny boy really said give money pls
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Is he not making enough with his drywalling Business?? Didn't he say in a gifted hater Interview how learning a trade was a good career?
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Also did he just expose the Colorway Illuminati?
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Is he not making enough with his drywalling Business?? Didn't he say in a gifted hater Interview how learning a trade was a good career?
i think he just takes on some small jobs with the client knowing he’s gonna be filming youtube videos. Don’t think he’s done any construction full time for years
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what kinda person accepts money? he is a pure evil. what is your next step ben? podcasting with mikey taylor?
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Am I the only one that has always been massively annoyed by this dude?
Nah I always thought he had an anal retentive type of vibe but Gifted Hater love(d) him so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Have never finished a video of his
(https://i.ibb.co/0FmZktS/Screen-Shot-2024-05-02-at-12-31-41-am.png) (https://ibb.co/0FmZktS)
Not annoyed but never got the allure. His snark seems kinda bitter and he'd say shit like he rode Indy's because that's what you do in Vancouver cuz they're cool there and then he would go back and forth for years kinda gaslighting himself at times and it seemed like any other YouTuber but he'd get a pass cuz of his age.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Not trying to defend Ben because I don’t really care, but did you watch the video? He said a rep sent him the Asics shoe and that he’d love to get paid to do a review. I think he’s being fairly transparent about the whole thing, and he’s built up enough good will over the years I think his audience will dig him getting some cash for what he’s doing
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Not trying to defend Ben because I don’t really care, but did you watch the video? He said a rep sent him the Asics shoe and that he’d love to get paid to do a review. I think he’s being fairly transparent about the whole thing, and he’s built up enough good will over the years I think his audience will dig him getting some cash for what he’s doing
I didn't catch the line about the rep, but being a shill is still being a shill. Only videos he's made in the last two months on YT have been self-promotion (real) or ad-placement (asics/vans). By this logic we should never have made fun of Cariuma, because a lot of people got money.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Not trying to defend Ben because I don’t really care, but did you watch the video? He said a rep sent him the Asics shoe and that he’d love to get paid to do a review. I think he’s being fairly transparent about the whole thing, and he’s built up enough good will over the years I think his audience will dig him getting some cash for what he’s doing
I hear you, but I feel like he’s obviously more of a tastemaker/influencer at this point. If Ben thinks it’s cool or a product has his sign-off it gets people stoked on trying it. Whether you choose to try the shoe or not is up to you… seems like a good business model for Ben (at least to me).
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
unironically letting your channel become part of VF Corp's astroturfing is pretty wack, no matter how you decide to jump through mental gymnastics to justify it. guy is a shill.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
so anyone who skates for Vans is a shill too because they appear in ads and get paid to wear them?
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So DLX flies him around and he presumably got kickbacks from that but it's working with Vans that makes him a shill?
Did people think he wasn't getting some sort of financial benefits when he started designing decks and doing shoe work with Etnies? This vid sounds like he made it just to clearly spell out what was already happening.
I don't give a shit about the AVE 2 as a shoe but watched and he did have critical notes about it. It's not like it was a complete joke of a review. It's more honest than Christian Sanchez using every shoe review to sell his insoles.
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So DLX flies him around and he presumably got kickbacks from that but it's working with Vans that makes him a shill?
Did people think he wasn't getting some sort of financial benefits when he started designing decks and doing shoe work with Etnies? This vid sounds like he made it just to clearly spell out what was already happening.
I don't give a shit about the AVE 2 as a shoe but watched and he did have critical notes about it. It's not like it was a complete joke of a review. It's more honest than Christian Sanchez using every shoe review to sell his insoles.
Flores, but also-damn.
I also agree, most shoe reviews christian makes are just copy and paste where the main focal point is to sell his shit.
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I love Ben but that video was pretty bad for all the above reasons. Especially his "Oh I had the wrong wheels to skate Venice curbs" excuse. The more people become industry insider types the less interesting they seem to be I suppose. I dunno. Not for me.
I skate those curbs (and just FYI a **ton** of people swap wheels before skating that spot) the bike path side is very smooth, the other [ledge] side sucks balls; some go harder, some go softer - I don't blame him too much...can you skate anything there? Yep. Is it easier on certain wheels? Without a doubt. Since Dragons/x-formula came about that's what most regulars skate there because of the rough side. I sure has hell wouldn't roll down there, knowing I'm skating there for a few hours, with anything harder than an x97/spit 93a (yes, even x99s are too chattery there).
I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
100% anyone here saying they wouldn't is lying to themselves. Did VANS give some parameters to those they sent the shoe to? Guaranteed...and it was up to those people to abide or not. The whole AVE2.0 thing is really, really weird...for the brand, the skater, and an lesson learned for the industry (hopefully).
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It seems like the new normal tho. It's not like DLX didn't do the same with the 93's and easy riders. It's not inherently wrong it's a pretty standard practice in a lot of industries it seems.
Imagine being Local Joe and never even getting a box lol gotta feel lonely.
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
so anyone who skates for Vans is a shill too because they appear in ads and get paid to wear them?
someone who has a long-term contract and is a professional skater listed on their team page is presenting themselves as under contract to promote the product. They're not shoe reviewers, and Ben seemed like just a normal dad skater until the shit with DLX.
So DLX flies him around and he presumably got kickbacks from that but it's working with Vans that makes him a shill?
Did people think he wasn't getting some sort of financial benefits when he started designing decks and doing shoe work with Etnies? This vid sounds like he made it just to clearly spell out what was already happening.
I don't give a shit about the AVE 2 as a shoe but watched and he did have critical notes about it. It's not like it was a complete joke of a review. It's more honest than Christian Sanchez using every shoe review to sell his insoles.
You throw your name on a board and/or have a hand in designing a product, you have every right to reap the benefits of your own work. When you base your entire image on being laid back and casual, having talked in the past about feeling bad for getting paid to do a cariuma review, build up your reputation as someone outside the industry, then throw that all out the window when vans comes knocking? That's BS. If he got sent some free product, that's fine in my book because it just means he doesn't have to buy it. When money is being exchanged so you suddenly give some wack ass product attention and claim you never have skated better? The whole video is him trying to justify it to himself and his audience.
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Dawg he says he's never skated better in literally every setup review video he did during his first 4 years. You gotta know not to trust his conclusions.
Also what if it's true? The shoes work great for him? So he should downplay it so you think he's more balanced. Dude is thankfully off Etnies and he's now skating Asics.
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EDIT: Harrison Ford is also a carpenter. You can try to argue that he was a carpenter since he doesn't do it anymore, but anyone who swings hammers will tell you it is a lifelong obligation in the same vein as "once a marine, always a marine." I made all of that up except for the fact that Harrison Ford was employed as a carpenter in his youth.
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i’d love to be an endorser of vans. all i skate are old skools and authentics and no one wants to skate those. for a small fee of free shoes i’ll do the talking. in the words of bossman d-low, get in with me.
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Still reckon he staged the quitting thing more than he admits though. He knows YouTube too well and loads of people were doing it at the time and getting heaps of traction. Basic psychological trickery.
No shade, reckon he’s an honest dude but is just massaging the truth a bit to make it feel nicer. End of the day, it doesn’t matter. :)
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
so anyone who skates for Vans is a shill too because they appear in ads and get paid to wear them?
What the fuck kind of comparison is that lmao bro is fried
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
so anyone who skates for Vans is a shill too because they appear in ads and get paid to wear them?
What the fuck kind of comparison is that lmao bro is fried
Maybe a little, but I don’t like how people get a pass for selling their skills in one regard and then absolutely shit on for doing it for a product feature video. Anyone who’s watched Ben over the years has undoubtedly learned something about their gear or have been inspired to try something new etc. but a sponsored video from vans is enough to ruin his credibility? People just want to turn on a motherfucker it seems like.
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I’ve joked about the AVE video but I would take a trip/paycheck from vans 1000%
YouTube does not pay nearly as much as people think and it’s super unreliable month to month. Some of you guys expect people to be these altruistic pillars of selfless service in a capitalist society. He put in the video that it’s a sponsored video, didn’t call it a review and gave enough information about that dumbass shoe for anyone who looks it up. If you buy $130 shoes with the intent on skating in them than you’re in a special class of people anyways. I’m glad he got paid because what he does is work. Editing is work. Being on camera giving people information and energy is work. Yes it’s more enjoyable than working dishpit at old spaghetti factory but it takes a lot of time and effort and it’s insane that him making one in 300+ videos about a product he got paid for is enough for people to turn on him. Y’all are acting like he broke out into a raid shadow legends ad break. Ben is a real one in a sea of phony fucking grifters and clout chasers.
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It's interesting because up until the AVE 2 shit, he presented himself as an honest and objective reviewer, but now he's admitting that it was all marketing and he got paid for it. It's pretty ridiculous that he's trying to split hairs by saying it's good because they didn't give him talking points or script the review. The fact that he got a paid deal to market the AVE 2 means objectivity has been completely thrown out the window. They flew him out to california in business class, gave him the experience of some bizarre "industry" meet and greet with AVE, and made him feel recognized by one of the major shoe companies in the industry.
I do get pretty irked when I hear people use the old "I am trying to secure my families future" line. It's appealing to the emotional empathy of his audience by framing it in this way, but in reality he's shilling out to the demand of a corporation for a payday because he's a Youtuber. one minute he's singing the praises of the etnies joslin, the next minute he's saying "every time I try anything else I'm not skating as well as I am in the Vans" and then he's praising the asics japan pro. One minute it's about the issues with Youtube and having to make content, and the next he's saying he would make another video for a company if they paid him and gave him free shit. Completely sidesteps the price-point being $130 USD/$175 CAD. It's absurd, and from this point forward it's kind of blatantly obvious that every video review could just be a paid ad. Maybe Asics sent him those free pair! Who the hell even knows.
Get a life, who gives a fuck
You seem to be taking this personally or something given how upset you are getting.
It's just a YouTube blog and he has been pretty honest.
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Still reckon he staged the quitting thing more than he admits though. He knows YouTube too well and loads of people were doing it at the time and getting heaps of traction. Basic psychological trickery.
No shade, reckon he’s an honest dude but is just massaging the truth a bit to make it feel nicer. End of the day, it doesn’t matter. :)
he even says it multiple times about how nine club would have probably never reached out if it wasnt for that video.
I have no problem with people getting paid for work. But if your entire career has been built off unbiased reviews you cant just start getting paid to shill products and pretend like they aren't going to be biased reviews of the product. He should expect a bit a backlash from viewers. If you are getting paid to do a review of a companies product there is inherently going to be bias. Just like how he says now he can't do reviews on DLX stuff cause he flew too close to the sun.
Him discounting the price as a factor for a shoe review has to be a joke. Are you going to have the same expectations for the $25 airwalks the same way you would for the $130 vans sockshoe?
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The people shitting on Ben I can almost guarantee do not have 3 kids and have no clue what that would be like. I wish I had a statistic but like often times once there is one child even in the mix your skating is down to a minimum. The guys who are hating I guarantee would pack it up if they were in remotely same situation
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The people shitting on Ben I can almost guarantee do not have 3 kids and have no clue what that would be like. I wish I had a statistic but like often times once there is one child even in the mix your skating is down to a minimum. The guys who are hating I guarantee would pack it up if they were in remotely same situation
Not to mention the exchange rate.
1 child USA = 1.3 children CAN
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Also what if it's true? The shoes work great for him? So he should downplay it so you think he's more balanced. Dude is thankfully off Etnies and he's now skating Asics.
His insatiable need to be different got him saying the army green with black soles asics is whack and the orange and white Japan pros is sick. For the record I like the orange ones but his reasoning is so fucking dumb. Maybe the conventions chose the colorway because it is tasteful and will sell because its tasteful.
Also the orange ones only work for people who arent so anal about everything. It's a carefree colorway.
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I thought those army green looked sick!
I am just buying sale stuff from now on anyway.
lol it is kinda wild how many canadian people they use to push ASICS skate but you cant even get them in Canada. Feels like I am back in the 90s with how long its taking them to get over here (maybe its not worth their time?)