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Skateboarding => PHOTOS/VIDEO => Filming/Editing => Topic started by: suckmadeck on December 30, 2022, 04:44:11 PM
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Haven't made a proper post in a while and I'm curious to gage what everyone is shooting on.
Has HD finally won? Or is SD still standing tall now?
Obviously not every filmer is on Slap (although they should be) so I'd love to know what the percentage is. Is it HD, SD or a bit of both?
Over the years we've all heard HD will win the so-called war, whilst VX users still hold onto that camera like it's their life support.
In the mean time check this son of a bitch that I got for a steal.
(https://i.imgur.com/kLvea3p.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CEMfSOs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uwbe3U0.jpg)
A HVX200 for scale.
(https://i.imgur.com/CO9GCRP.jpg)
2/3' sensor, shoots to DVCAM and is a fucking beast. Super wide angle lens as well, close to a fisheye. (The tissue is for the perished rubber that gets onto my hand. I'm sure there is a better way around it.)
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Shooting HD on a Hpx 170 with a 72mm kapkur fisheye. Pretty standard setup I guess but I love it to death.
Also have a super-8 cam that doesn’t work atm haha
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Haven't made a proper post in a while and I'm curious to gage what everyone is shooting on.
Has HD finally won? Or is SD still standing tall now?
Obviously not every filmer is on Slap (although they should be) so I'd love to know what the percentage is. Is it HD, SD or a bit of both?
Over the years we've all heard HD will win the so-called war, whilst VX users still hold onto that camera like it's their life support.
In the mean time check this son of a bitch that I got for a steal.
A HVX200 for scale.
2/3' sensor, shoots to DVCAM and is a fucking beast. Super wide angle lens as well, close to a fisheye. (The tissue is for the perished rubber that gets onto my hand. I'm sure there is a better way around it.)
your insta stories of taking gambles on cameras off ebay and they end up working never disappoints, please keep it up (budget allowing anyway)
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sony vx 1000 with a modded raynox.
disclaimer: i haven't broken it out since 2019 in barcelona haha. :-X :-\
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Not filming a ton these days but the main setup is a GH5 w/ 8-15mm and a Canon XA11 for long lens. Perfect for both 16:9 or 4:3 footage.
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Sony FS5 is the main bitch and sometimes I shoot with the Sony A7R (My photo cam but it films pretty beast)
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HPX170 with a Century MK1 on a homemade lens adaptor, cropped to 4:3. Good ol' 720p.
I also have a 72mm Opteka fisheye for the rare occasion I'm shooting 16:9 footage.
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VX1000, my HPX has been collecting dust for a while now. I don't have as much time as I used to to film so I'd rather just film on the camera I like better.
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Was up until my most recent full length vid; a VX1000 w/ a Century Optics MK1 recording on a HVR-MRC1 and a second VX1000 also accompanied with a MRC1 for long lens, B-roll etc.
Now into the 'modern' world with a Canon XF100 with the same lens as the above.
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VX1/MK1 combo and an old VHS camera for b-roll.
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Still have my vx1/mk1 but vx is getting fixed.
HVX200 for long lens for random HD stuff.
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VX1000 and VX2000 with an opteka for SD.
For HD I bought an old Lumix GH4 with a Meike 3.5mm fisheye, but I still need something for long lens, any suggestions?
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main tings:
• HPX171 with a custom 'xtreme' made of a Canon FEA-III fisheye bolted onto the front of a bayo mount Century 0.6x wide converter
• Sony PMW-F3 with SCL-Z18X140 18-252mm zoom + Altura 8mm f/3.0 fisheye w/ Nikon adapter (+ E-Image EPM-20 stereo shotgun mic)
side ting:
• JVC HM150 with Nikon FC-E9 fisheye
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh33j8CWIAAxbke?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj2i6RbWAAAfOqS?format=jpg&name=medium)
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@suckmadeck I got a b4 2/3 lens (FUJINON A15x8BEVM-28B to be precise) working on my gh4 with a b4 to mft adapter, a powerbank and a 5.5/2.5mm 12v to 12 pin hirose adapter for long lens footy cause it is parfocal. For the rubber, I am pretty sure the softener is gone. I rubbed the rubber of from mine with tissues and isopropanol. It was a pain but worked. There have to be better ways/solvents but i didn't want to use a too aggressive one.
It is not to convenient to use freehand because there is no image stabilization neither from the lens nor from the gh4 and I don't own a shoulder mount. Would love to try it with a gh5 for that reason.
I like the image, but one does see though that the glass was not made for FullHD/4k.
Have not filmed too much with it.
Does your lense have a doubler?
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-Panasonic HPX 250 for long-lens
-Panasonic Gh5 with Meike 3.5 for fisheye.
-Smallrig Case and weights to avoid shaky footage
-Rode videomicro with audio in manual and no limiter
Super happy with the setup, great for 4:3 and 16:9
(https://i.ibb.co/7nfYqwp/setup.jpg)
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main tings:
• HPX171 with a custom 'xtreme' made of a Canon FEA-III fisheye bolted onto the front of a bayo mount Century 0.6x wide converter
• Sony PMW-F3 with SCL-Z18X140 18-252mm zoom + Altura 8mm f/3.0 fisheye w/ Nikon adapter (+ E-Image EPM-20 stereo shotgun mic)
side ting:
• JVC HM150 with Nikon FC-E9 fisheye
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh33j8CWIAAxbke?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj2i6RbWAAAfOqS?format=jpg&name=medium)
Woah cool setups. Do you have any footage of these. Would love to see how each looks
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Tapeless VX1000 ft. MK1
Canon 60D
Canon auto zoom super8
Iphone
Saved the best for last
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(https://i.imgur.com/SJiTXIo.jpg)
GH6 inside a Eazyhandle V2 + Canon 8-15
Leicina Special
VX1000 with MK1
HPX170 with Xtreme
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main tings:
• HPX171 with a custom 'xtreme' made of a Canon FEA-III fisheye bolted onto the front of a bayo mount Century 0.6x wide converter
• Sony PMW-F3 with SCL-Z18X140 18-252mm zoom + Altura 8mm f/3.0 fisheye w/ Nikon adapter (+ E-Image EPM-20 stereo shotgun mic)
side ting:
• JVC HM150 with Nikon FC-E9 fisheye
Woah cool setups. Do you have any footage of these. Would love to see how each looks
thanks!
here's a lil test clip with the Sony F3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCiQbPqbwQ
something from my hpx + experimental fisheye (with some after effects vig stretch):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p37_ZXVwYa0
and the JVC hm150 + nikon fish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWKLS3FHPNA
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I wanna film some this year but dont know how to go about the setting, only done still photos so far. I'd love some tips for setting it up for filming.
Maybe its the wrong thread but didnt know where to post, is there a thread about this?
Got a Fuji xt3 DSLR with a 16-80mm lens & 23mm anyway
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I wanna film some this year but dont know how to go about the setting, only done still photos so far. I'd love some tips for setting it up for filming.
Maybe its the wrong thread but didnt know where to post, is there a thread about this?
Got a Fuji xt3 DSLR with a 16-80mm lens & 23mm anyway
I’d say get a fisheye and a cage with a top handle and you should be good. Also prob wanna get a some kind of microphone.
Depending on if you want to film 16:9 or crop to 4:3 would determine what kind of fisheye you should get.
For 16:9 I would get something like this meike 7.5 or a samyang/rokinon 8mm.
https://www.adorama.com/mk7528fx.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh6ujn96I_QIV6vTICh2MoADoEAQYHiABEgL4yPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&utm_source=inc-google-shop-p
For 4:3 I would say get a meike/opteka 6.5 or a laowa 4mm.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1542241-REG/venus_optics_ve428fx_laowa_4mm_f_2_8_fisheye.html/?ap=y&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh0WBvKRnLSSLdN3b4hG85HbR&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh6ujn96I_QIV6vTICh2MoADoEAQYGSABEgLzFfD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y
As far as mics the rode videomicro should work pretty solid.
Good luck
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(https://i.ibb.co/0BvfZ00/D9-F695-E0-D8-B5-44-DA-B91-E-E2-AAE51-A0-D0-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0BvfZ00)
New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
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(https://i.ibb.co/0BvfZ00/D9-F695-E0-D8-B5-44-DA-B91-E-E2-AAE51-A0-D0-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0BvfZ00)
New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
Doesn't the mic show up in the top of the frame?
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New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
Doesn't the mic show up in the top of the frame?
It just barely doesn’t. if it’s really windy sometimes a few of the fuzzies will barely peek into the top of the frame, but only happened once so far.
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New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
Doesn't the mic show up in the top of the frame?
It just barely doesn’t. if it’s really windy sometimes a few of the fuzzies will barely peek into the top of the frame, but only happened once so far.
give it a haircut lol
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I use a canon 550d dslr with a vivitar 8mm fisheye, have an anal bead tripod and a plastic follow cam thing that the camera screws into - no external mic or other attachments. I use lightworks as free video editing software and has served my needs so far.
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Still sticking with the VX-1000 and Mk 1.
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(https://i.ibb.co/0BvfZ00/D9-F695-E0-D8-B5-44-DA-B91-E-E2-AAE51-A0-D0-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0BvfZ00)
New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
You have any test footage with the fisheye, just curious to see and hear what it looks and sounds like
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I believe SD will never die, I film both in HD and VX and everybody I encounter is more motivated to film if a VX is around. From a filmer perspective tapeless solutions came in handy to make SD cams life longer although the price to pay is still a bit high and not always chosen due to how uncomfortable it could be.
With this said after I encountered an HD format that I love I can't stop believing the classic vx1000 + mk1 is still the best cam setup for filming skateboarding , purely because of the aesthetic.
I'm currently filming with:
HD
- GH5 + meike 6.5mm 2.0f for fisheye with a rode videomicro mic
- Panasonic hcx1500 for long lens standard mic
VX
vx2100 + modded mk2 , unfortunately the lens I put inbetween got a bit scratched and sometimes you notice it in the footy.
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Also I wanted to ask; since I am using the GH5 on a VLog color profile, does anybody think that this color profile could be added in post to get close to the one the vx1000 has? so far I must say that the results coming out of color correcting a VLog are really good, it could come out amazing If color corrected just as a vx..
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(https://i.ibb.co/0BvfZ00/D9-F695-E0-D8-B5-44-DA-B91-E-E2-AAE51-A0-D0-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0BvfZ00)
New set up: canon xa11 + mk1 58mm screw fisheye + random mic. It’s a little front heavy currently so probably gonna try to rig up some kind of weight through the tripod mount off the back to counterbalance it.
You have any test footage with the fisheye, just curious to see and hear what it looks and sounds like
Sure, excuse the dirty tadashi filter. Mic was set to -10 db with low cut filter on. https://youtu.be/iUIur2G7XaQ (https://youtu.be/iUIur2G7XaQ)
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Recently made a camcorder setup for filming 4:3 HD
(https://i.ibb.co/nwd01P3/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-17-59-17.png) (https://ibb.co/nwd01P3)(https://i.ibb.co/k8wrNth/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-17-59-49.png) (https://ibb.co/k8wrNth)(https://i.ibb.co/6g5tVXh/Untitled.png) (https://ibb.co/6g5tVXh)
Canon HF G26
Opteka 52mm Fisheye (1 adapter, 1 spacer)
Sennheiser MKE 400
SmallRig Top Handle
Here's a short skatepark skate video I filmed with it if anyone's interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejtRllDR9Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejtRllDR9Z8)
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Also I wanted to ask; since I am using the GH5 on a VLog color profile, does anybody think that this color profile could be added in post to get close to the one the vx1000 has? so far I must say that the results coming out of color correcting a VLog are really good, it could come out amazing If color corrected just as a vx..
someone would have to shoot both of them side by side and then create a lut to match them, which is not only very hard, but every vx1000 looks slightly different depending on the year, the model (american, japanese, european) and if there is any lens fogging, custom preset settings, etc. I'm sure you could get close but it would take some work.
https://www.cinematch.com/
CineMatch does this with other cameras, but I don't know how they achieve the initial profiles.
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(https://i.ibb.co/F8KMb46/6127196-B-56-D6-4-BB5-9-A26-15351-C1-E6-CC3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F8KMb46)(https://i.ibb.co/xJ952Dk/A1-B75527-2-CDA-4-CB0-AC32-73-BDBF9-F54-E0.png) (https://ibb.co/xJ952Dk)(https://i.ibb.co/0CsXNsq/D0878897-7-B03-4-E26-985-D-692-C479-EABBF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0CsXNsq)
How are ya finding that JVC?
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Ive been thinking about getting a cheap camcorder to film a little with, not just skate but in general too just to have a new format to play around with. Its not optimal for skate sure, but i feel like if its cheap and it comes in a small package i'll use it more and dont have to baby it.
Anyone have experience with camcorders and can recommend something newish and cheap? As long as its got SD card, new batteries avalible and fairly sall sized im pretty happy.
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Ive been thinking about getting a cheap camcorder to film a little with, not just skate but in general too just to have a new format to play around with. Its not optimal for skate sure, but i feel like if its cheap and it comes in a small package i'll use it more and dont have to baby it.
Anyone have experience with camcorders and can recommend something newish and cheap? As long as its got SD card, new batteries avalible and fairly sall sized im pretty happy.
hasnt come in the mail yet but I just snagged a sony hdr cx700 off ebay for 300. Planning to add a handle and use it with my nikon fc-e9 fisheye. It does 1080p 60fps but its pixel count is low since its early HD so it's not crazy sharp like these damn 4k cameras even when you put them in 1080. I have used many of the different sony hdr / sdr series cams and I quire like them.
You could probably find a bit cheaper a sony xr 520, i believe that one is 1080i.
I was looking into the hdr cx760 to mount my mk1 onto, but all the sony camcorders after that point have "balanced optical steady shot" where the sensor is on a gimbal inside the camera and you can see the lens jiggle around inside the camera body. I figured that would cause vig shake with a fisheye even with steady shot turned off. But if you arent planning to mount a fish than probably amazing for long lens
curious to know if anyone knows about that balanced steady shot shit as i really want to try some of those newer sony cams with my mk1.
havent used em but panasonic tm900 looks amazing as well with the 3mos sensor
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Turns out my old Raymod fisheye has the same thread size as the Bolex 581. Focuses to infinity and vignetting isn't too wild.
(https://i.imgur.com/jQARS31.jpg)
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I am into video for almost 25 years.I shoot on all formats but I like low res or analog video for its rendering on specific shots.I like the way it looks the colors and the blurr.
HD or any digital camera are good to catch action, skating or when it comes to film detailed subjects like filming in the wild, macro shots etc.
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Panasonic HC-X2000 for long lens. GoPro 8 HEROBLACK/Canon 80-D EOS with a Rokinon 8MM fisheye for wide angle clips.
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Still got the VXs (and TRV) that I can't part with, which is lucky since I'm using a VX1 for a project a mate's doing that is a mix of HMC and VX stuff for a part.
Then, a VX2100 with a Raymod I bought as a back up lens to help finish a project for a mate, where most sessions often end up being quite heavy and a second filmer is needed.
The XF100 is still my main cam, but kinda cool to have the VXs out at times to do little projects.
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hasnt come in the mail yet but I just snagged a sony hdr cx700 off ebay for 300. Planning to add a handle and use it with my nikon fc-e9 fisheye. It does 1080p 60fps
Let us know how you like that HDR-CX700 and/or post some test clips! I have been on the same wave as you, looking into those early 60p consumer camcorders. I went with the Panasonic HDC-TM900 and I really like it, but I am curious how the early sony ones like the cx700 are.
havent used em but panasonic tm900 looks amazing as well with the 3mos sensor
I really like mine, using the consumer-oriented touchscreen is a little finicky once you start to really want to play with the settings, but it's a great starter cam. It looks okay with the Opteka 37mm in 4:3, but especially good with the FC-E9 in either 16:9 or 4:3. Panasonic did release a follow up, the Hc-x920, which has a better sensor (slightly bigger, and BSI 'backside illuminated') so it is a little better in low light. These small sensor cameras are incredibly light-hungry, so every little bit of improvement of the sensor in low light goes a long way, and I would 100% recommend that x920 instead of the TM900. And I and may even upgrade myself.
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Still running an old Sony A7ii. Tokina 10-17mm fisheye without the hood. Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 for long lens (zoom clips work fine if you get good at it).
4:3 HD
Just filmed a full length on it
https://youtu.be/UK0jnO7ePak
Some of the long lens clips I used the APSC crop feature when I wanted a more zoomed in look, slight loss in quality but still acceptable imo.
Settings/picture profile really bad on the first line hadn't dialed it in yet.
Would look much better on any newer camera, gh5 or later sony ones for sure. But I think even on more dated cameras you can squeeze out great results.
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VX2100/mk1, along with a thrifted hi8 and a variety of super8 and 16mm cameras. excited to future-proof eventually
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hasnt come in the mail yet but I just snagged a sony hdr cx700 off ebay for 300. Planning to add a handle and use it with my nikon fc-e9 fisheye. It does 1080p 60fps
Let us know how you like that HDR-CX700 and/or post some test clips! I have been on the same wave as you, looking into those early 60p consumer camcorders. I went with the Panasonic HDC-TM900 and I really like it, but I am curious how the early sony ones like the cx700 are.
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havent used em but panasonic tm900 looks amazing as well with the 3mos sensor
I really like mine, using the consumer-oriented touchscreen is a little finicky once you start to really want to play with the settings, but it's a great starter cam. It looks okay with the Opteka 37mm in 4:3, but especially good with the FC-E9 in either 16:9 or 4:3. Panasonic did release a follow up, the Hc-x920, which has a better sensor (slightly bigger, and BSI 'backside illuminated') so it is a little better in low light. These small sensor cameras are incredibly light-hungry, so every little bit of improvement of the sensor in low light goes a long way, and I would 100% recommend that x920 instead of the TM900. And I and may even upgrade myself.
yo G! So I actually watched your video "mixed signals" and was a big fan, watched it like 3 times. I actually even ended up copying the entire setup pretty much exactly.
TM700, wrap around bracket, century baby death, and sony mic. I looooved the setup but after using it for a while I just couldnt get over the rolling shutter. that shit just bugs me way too much. I wish there was a way around that. Or better yet panasonic could just make a compact 1080 3ccd camcorder that shoots 60fps
I didnt end up liking the cx700 too much it was a little too sharp and HD but its a brilliant camcorder for filming things outside of skating
I've found a setup now that I'm really enjoying. It's a Panasonic Lumix LX5, its a point and shoot photo camera but it has a single CCD and shoots 1280x720 at 30fps, I was able to attach my baby deathlens using an extension tube and have the
coldshoe handle for filming fisheye. It's definitely a fried kind of setup, but I like it that way. it doesn't have a rocker zoom but it can zoom slowly works nicely in a pinch. Gonna continue to use that for a while since its a tiny lightweight setup that can fit in a backpack. And it takes amazing photos too!
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A7siii, A7s second angle, canon 8-15 fish, Sony 18-105 (not pictured), old 120mm Pentax lens off a 35mm film camera, super 8
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Currently using the Panasonic HPX250 with a Century Xtreme but I’ll be selling the entire lens & camera set up in the next few weeks. It’s just getting too heavy for me to use on the regular.
I’ve just bought the Sony FS5 with RAW and high frame rate installed, so it’s essentially upgraded to what the FS5 II comes equipped with. Got a Canon 8-15mm lens with it and a Metabones Ultra II to go along with it.
I compared the Canon lens with the Xtreme and when I zoom in on the Canon to a very similar degree of vignette as the Xtreme, the width is the same, if not slightly wider which is nice.
Here’s a size comparison between the two;
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I've never really filmed before, only on a couple of friends setups. But I have a Lumix G85 DSLR (m 4/3). What do I need to get this up to speed to film skating?