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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: toe_knee on January 18, 2023, 08:25:13 AM
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So uhh now that DOA is done, what’s everyone doing for flat decks? I tried a baker mellow concave and liked it alright but, there something about the DOA…. Does anyone know of anything similar? Or maybe if politic or some other board company out of that woodshop uses that mold?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRcNFchXcs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRcNFchXcs
Fuck…. Nevermind
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So uhh now that DOA is done, what’s everyone doing for flat decks? I tried a baker mellow concave and liked it alright but, there something about the DOA…. Does anyone know of anything similar? Or maybe if politic or some other board company out of that woodshop uses that mold?
Idk what size you ride, but most girl decks, and most dwindle boards are flat as hell. haven’t had a toy machine in a few years, but last I skated them, they were damn near straight lined across.
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So uhh now that DOA is done, what’s everyone doing for flat decks? I tried a baker mellow concave and liked it alright but, there something about the DOA…. Does anyone know of anything similar? Or maybe if politic or some other board company out of that woodshop uses that mold?
Idk what size you ride, but most girl decks, and most dwindle boards are flat as hell. haven’t had a toy machine in a few years, but last I skated them, they were damn near straight lined across.
Yea I was looking at some girl shit the other day, may go with one of those
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That disorder board sounds like the last plan b I rode, right down to the taper; was the joslin slice deck, super flat and short tailed.
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That disorder became rad sounds like the last plan b I rode, right down to the taper; was the joslin slice deck, super flat and short tailed.
It does look interesting but not my size and wheelbase is too short for me
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Ps Stix has the best mellow molds in my opinion
Toy Machine Mellow is one of the flattest molds I've ever skated, or the one WKND uses for their CT is mellow but more of a spoony shape to the contours. If you can go to a shop and look through all the companies that use the quasi mold those can be pretty flat and mellow in the tail as well, but you have to find ones from the bottom of the stack. Some IV stamped dlx boards can be pretty mellow too, actually Fletch sent me one of those skate shop day boards and it's shockingly mellow for a bbs. If it weren't a 14.4 wb I'd go out and hunt for them in shop bargain bins.
Alternatively I have a few 8.25 flats left if that's what you skate.. or just wait for Politic to run some e molds and buy one of those.
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I got a blind accidental death reissue slick that is flat. Oh and an Dog town Arron Murray reissue that is flat ad stupid wide (thank fuck I never ordered one as a kid from them mail order things in Thrasher I'd have been gutted).
IV DLX BBS boards are as flat as I can do.
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Ps Stix has the best mellow molds in my opinion
Toy Machine Mellow is one of the flattest molds I've ever skated, or the one WKND uses for their CT is mellow but more of a spoony shape to the contours. If you can go to a shop and look through all the companies that use the quasi mold those can be pretty flat and mellow in the tail as well, but you have to find ones from the bottom of the stack. Some IV stamped dlx boards can be pretty mellow too, actually Fletch sent me one of those skate shop day boards and it's shockingly mellow for a bbs. If it weren't a 14.4 wb I'd go out and hunt for them in shop bargain bins.
Alternatively I have a few 8.25 flats left if that's what you skate.. or just wait for Politic to run some e molds and buy one of those.
WKND CT shape is perfect but made by PS so every one I tried sucked. One even had the truck holes mis-drilled. If BBS made this, it’d probably be the only deck I skated.
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If anyone can find me a flat-ass UNCUT deck, hit me up. I'll make a new mold out of it and make boards.
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That disorder board sounds like the last plan b I rode, right down to the taper; was the joslin slice deck, super flat and short tailed.
It does look interesting but not my size and wheelbase is too short for me
The plan b tail was stupid flat tho, it felt like there was no kick at all.
The disorder board, not sure I could roll a 6.25 tail and 7” nose.
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I had a wholesaler do some decks for me. They were flat as shit. I hated them. A few people loved them. They came from control. It looks like they don't have them anymore as they're current offerings say made in the USA and not "North America"
maybe look at controls offerings, or email them to see whose getting flat ones
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Crailtap?
I had a board from their last woodshop but as a steep concave lover, their boards always look as flat as my buns. With mellow kicks.
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I’m curious if the newer Toy Machine decks are as flat as they used to be (last had one in 2019 and it was PS, I think). Damn they were good. To me, anyways…
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Man people love to shit on PS, but last time I was in a shop there were 5 total decks I was interested in from BBS. Literally all spost to be the same shape:
- 2 of these decks had a noticeable twist/warp
- 1 had a weird glue defect where it looked like the sides of one of the rails were not glued. Like, the plys looked bare.
- 1 had the holes mis-drilled. If you put a truck over the holes, the frontmost bolt holes didn't line up with the plate holes and it would not be possible to attach a truck.
The final one is the one I got, which was a Frog that had had a heat transfer put over one of their deadstock boards that didn't sell. Insanely stiff for the first week or so.
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Crail boards have steep kicks now, they really don’t provide the mellow experience I’m looking for but I do generally like skating them.
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The last DGK (China) I skated was pretty flat, like a Baker Mellow flat...
Man people love to shit on PS, but last time I was in a shop there were 5 total decks I was interested in from BBS. Literally all spost to be the same shape:
- 2 of these decks had a noticeable twist/warp
- 1 had a weird glue defect where it looked like the sides of one of the rails were not glued. Like, the plys looked bare.
- 1 had the holes mis-drilled. If you put a truck over the holes, the frontmost bolt holes didn't line up with the plate holes and it would not be possible to attach a truck.
The final one is the one I got, which was a Frog that had had a heat transfer put over one of their deadstock boards that didn't sell. Insanely stiff for the first week or so.
It's funny, PS gets hate yet Quasi gets love.
The last few boards I've ridden were powell (flight), Polar and a Welcome, all of which were not as flat as I wanted...Prior was two Deathwish boards and they were very very mellow.
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Yeah, I also had a DGK Chinese deck recently that’s was really mellow. Not flat but definitely on the low side of the mellow end.
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The last DGK (China) I skated was pretty flat, like a Baker Mellow flat...
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Man people love to shit on PS, but last time I was in a shop there were 5 total decks I was interested in from BBS. Literally all spost to be the same shape:
- 2 of these decks had a noticeable twist/warp
- 1 had a weird glue defect where it looked like the sides of one of the rails were not glued. Like, the plys looked bare.
- 1 had the holes mis-drilled. If you put a truck over the holes, the frontmost bolt holes didn't line up with the plate holes and it would not be possible to attach a truck.
The final one is the one I got, which was a Frog that had had a heat transfer put over one of their deadstock boards that didn't sell. Insanely stiff for the first week or so.
It's funny, PS gets hate yet Quasi gets love.
The last few boards I've ridden were powell (flight), Polar and a Welcome, all of which were not as flat as I wanted...Prior was two Deathwish boards and they were very very mellow.
A lot of Quasi boards are actually BBS, including twins and other special runs, and they're the ones I've liked the best. I'm fine with either though, as long as the shape is good. Haven’t seen any that are unusually flat, however.
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Yeah, I usually go off the Quasi site which states which is which, my Quasi twin, was, as you noted, BBS; it was very mellow tho.
My last non-twin quasi, was indeed PS tho...super stubby tail.
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April was probably the flattest deck I have had recently. Kind of similar to a Baker, but more full nose and tail.
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i have heard ppl say in their experience, PS stix boards get soggy fast, but they are really good when they are new. anyone else had boards like that?
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Yea my friend had a April guy pro deck that was super mellow need to look their stuff too
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The last DGK (China) I skated was pretty flat, like a Baker Mellow flat...
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Man people love to shit on PS, but last time I was in a shop there were 5 total decks I was interested in from BBS. Literally all spost to be the same shape:
- 2 of these decks had a noticeable twist/warp
- 1 had a weird glue defect where it looked like the sides of one of the rails were not glued. Like, the plys looked bare.
- 1 had the holes mis-drilled. If you put a truck over the holes, the frontmost bolt holes didn't line up with the plate holes and it would not be possible to attach a truck.
The final one is the one I got, which was a Frog that had had a heat transfer put over one of their deadstock boards that didn't sell. Insanely stiff for the first week or so.
It's funny, PS gets hate yet Quasi gets love.
The last few boards I've ridden were powell (flight), Polar and a Welcome, all of which were not as flat as I wanted...Prior was two Deathwish boards and they were very very mellow.
A lot of Quasi boards are actually BBS, including twins and other special runs, and they're the ones I've liked the best. I'm fine with either though, as long as the shape is good. Haven’t seen any that are unusually flat, however.
Most Quasi boards are still PS. There are a few each drop that are BBS, but I don't think it's even 50/50 yet to be honest. They're pretty clear about which shop pressed each deck.
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Ya Quasi had about 50/50 for a single drop when they added Dane Barker, but I think even his decks now are PS. Basically the only BBS they do are the twin tails and really short shapes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRcNFchXcs
Fuck…. Nevermind
Ben can sell me on a lot of things... but this deck was the worst I've ever skated on. My buddy had one. He gave it away after 2 sessions. Verry small tail. Shortys is the flattest I've skated recently. Alien is pretty flat too but become pretty soggy fast. I hate the pointy tails on the Bakers. I'd skate another B2 again tho.
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Ya Quasi had about 50/50 for a single drop when they added Dane Barker, but I think even his decks now are PS. Basically the only BBS they do are the twin tails and really short shapes.
Yep! And the last time I spoke with Quasi, they said they would continue having boards made by both PS and BBS because there are people who love both woodshops. I think all of Gilbert's graphics are BBS now—at least for the last drop. A little something for everyone.
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I’m curious if the newer Toy Machine decks are as flat as they used to be (last had one in 2019 and it was PS, I think). Damn they were good. To me, anyways…
Here’s an 8.25 Daniel Lutheran “Insecurity” TM. It’s the flattest deck I have.
(https://i.ibb.co/CzNwF36/20079-BEE-59-B9-49-CA-882-A-9-BFC42-EC658-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CzNwF36)
I kinda like PS Stix more. The decks have more flex to them, but they lack the durability of BBS wood. The TM I was riding started to razor tail faster than the Welcome BBS one I had prior to it.
So I’d buy them on sale.
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For the two weeks (constant skating) PS boards are great, then...sogg out...BBS take a bit to get flexy/hit the sweet spot. Trade offs.
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The 8.5 April I have has very mellow Kicks but the concave is still that bbs classic deep square thing through the middle.
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I had a Darkroom John Clemmons 8.25 deck. It was the flattest board I have ever skated. I also had a 8.38 wknd that was pretty darn flat.
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I often find it interesting talking to people about concave, because most people refer more to the angle of the kicks, compared to the side to side between the bolts, which is more what I think of when I talk about concave. Also given most people are not quite as product "nerdy" as I am, or the average person on here either, but there are also some boards that might have medium to steep kicks that have very little concave through the middle of the deck.
Not to say that kicks can always be flattened - parking on an upside down board will usually flatten out most kicks without any issues with the wood, glue or board construction - but if I am feeling out concave on the average BBS deck, I know I can mellow out the kicks, but I can't mellow out the concave.
From almost all the boards I have had the chance to stand on, the blanks / PGI distributed decks have been the flattest, but are often difficult to find or get many of, depending on brands or what is going on with certain distros.
Maybe the DLX boards with IV being the ones most common to find, but even then, the 8.38 or 8.5 are usually way more mellow than the 8.25 or 8.12 shapes, so it also depends on what size or shape you are looking for as to whether or not it will be better in that regard.
Other brands that use that same 8.38 shape I have bought, including DGK, Element, Baker, Birdhouse, Deathwish and more are all middle of the field, some more mellow and some not so mellow, regardless of how they are advertised, eg Baker mellow mold seems like it is the same board from the same press as all these others.
Most Passport decks (BBS) have also been very flat in the concave with medium to steep kicks, which also flatten out really well, as per some that I have done, but also some that come like that too, one 8.38 needed nothing whatsoever. Other Passport boards have been quite deep / steep in kicks and concave, as per an 8.5 I got recently, but from half a dozen of each, some were steeper (top of the press) and some more mellow (bottom of the press).
I have also found quite a few PS Stix decks from brands like GX1000 or Quasi to be some of the steepest decks around, but then some other PS Stix boards have been very flat and very mellow in both kicks and concave.
The hardest thing with all this is if you can't go into a shop that has multiples of each board, or can't get someone to go through boards to find the most mellow, it is a bit of a lucky dip with those brands that use boards that come from woodshops that have four or five to a press.
As per those Passport boards, multiples of each have very different concave, for the same graphic on the same shape in the same run, as I have seen whenever I have bought up to half a dozen of the same boards.
I can pick and choose what I want to ride and put the rest in the shop / pass on to others, but it makes it harder for anyone else without those sort of options to find exactly what they are looking for.
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Any nerds want to review these potential specs for a mellow board and let me know what you think?
Board Length: 32.25"
Wheelbase, in 14.25
Nose Length, in 7
Tail Length, in 6.75
Concave Drop, in 0.2 (I need to see if this measurement is .2" for the 10" mold, or for the eventual deck it will create).
Flat Concave Width, in 2 (flat part in middle of board with no concave)
Tub Concave Radius, in 6 (apparently 6" is a standard radius)
Kicknose, deg 18
Kicktail, deg 17
Nose Radius, in 6
Tail Radius, in 6
Transition Length, in 4 (from concave to flat)
Kick Gap, in 1 (aka fingers of flat)
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Any nerds want to review these potential specs for a mellow board and let me know what you think?
Board Length: 32.25"
Wheelbase, in 14.25
Nose Length, in 7
Tail Length, in 6.75
Concave Drop, in 0.2 (I need to see if this measurement is .2" for the 10" mold, or for the eventual deck it will create).
Flat Concave Width, in 2 (flat part in middle of board with no concave)
Tub Concave Radius, in 6 (apparently 6" is a standard radius)
Kicknose, deg 18
Kicktail, deg 17
Nose Radius, in 6
Tail Radius, in 6
Transition Length, in 4 (from concave to flat)
Kick Gap, in 1 (aka fingers of flat)
For the few things I am familiar with, board length, wheelbase, kick lengths and angles mainly, that seems like a really good mellow board with nice kicks.
Most of my boards bought new are roughly 20 - 21 (commonly 20 tail with 21 nose) degrees in kick angle, but parked on mellow out to about the 18 or so degrees, with anything under 16 being really flat and a little too weird to skate, although some people like it that flat.
The few boards I haven't needed to touch at all were around the 17 degrees on the tail when someone measured.
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Any nerds want to review these potential specs for a mellow board and let me know what you think?
Board Length: 32.25"
Wheelbase, in 14.25
Nose Length, in 7
Tail Length, in 6.75
Concave Drop, in 0.2 (I need to see if this measurement is .2" for the 10" mold, or for the eventual deck it will create).
Flat Concave Width, in 2 (flat part in middle of board with no concave)
Tub Concave Radius, in 6 (apparently 6" is a standard radius)
Kicknose, deg 18
Kicktail, deg 17
Nose Radius, in 6
Tail Radius, in 6
Transition Length, in 4 (from concave to flat)
Kick Gap, in 1 (aka fingers of flat)
For the few things I am familiar with, board length, wheelbase, kick lengths and angles mainly, that seems like a really good mellow board with nice kicks.
Most of my boards bought new are roughly 20 - 21 (commonly 20 tail with 21 nose) degrees in kick angle, but parked on mellow out to about the 18 or so degrees, with anything under 16 being really flat and a little too weird to skate, although some people like it that flat.
The few boards I haven't needed to touch at all were around the 17 degrees on the tail when someone measured.
Thanks. The nose/tail radius and the tub concave radius are the ones I never hear discussed, probably because they're nearly impossible to measure unless you're CAD drafting the deck. Those parameters affect how quickly or gradually the board bends at the kicks and concave. I've noticed some boards having much sharper angles on concave and others having a gentle roll, but quantitatively I have no idea what the radii were.
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The twin tail Bobby or Ishod is pretty flat. Especially for a dlx board.
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I can verify I had a II and it was even more mellow than the Dreamer mellow mold 8.38 I had.
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Which trucks can be paired with a very flat and mellow kicks board?
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I think it’s bc Ishod likes a flat deck and Bobby tried out Ishod board so he must like the flat concave too. It may be only the 8.3 that have this mellowness.
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Which trucks can be paired with a very flat and mellow kicks board?
Whatever you want, but my sweet spot is a mid around 52mm. Gives me the snappy response I want but I don't feel like everything happens too fast like I sometimes do on a low. For SC e molds I like ventures, for spoonier molds I usually prefer films or aces.
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Great now I want a disorder board
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Glue skateboards seem to be mellow.
I don't know if they have different concaves for different sizes though.
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I think it’s bc Ishod likes a flat deck and Bobby tried out Ishod board so he must like the flat concave too. It may be only the 8.3 that have this mellowness.
I have the 8.0, 8.25 and 8.3 and they're all flat if you get the III or IV.
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(https://i.ibb.co/wsRWfF4/07-D45064-C1-DA-4783-9-E7-A-ACC65-D258411.jpg)
Idk I see a lot of ppl talking about riding a flat deck but not actually riding a flat deck 😳
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I think it’s bc Ishod likes a flat deck and Bobby tried out Ishod board so he must like the flat concave too. It may be only the 8.3 that have this mellowness.
I have the 8.0, 8.25 and 8.3 and they're all flat if you get the III or IV.
Some of y’all have never ridden a mellow flat deck and it shows. All those dlx boards are NOT FLAT not even close lol
Girl chocolate palace are pretty flat just steep kicks which is annoying.
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Flat as in nothing hits the arch of my foot. I used to only skate girl and chocolate and I’ve had a palace. The twin tails still feel flat compared to the 8.18 Real I’ve skated. The 8:38 Eagle I skated was pretty flat too.
Edit: But they’re not like the Blind Jason Lee reissue I skated. That is flat with no concave. But that was a straight 90s replica. Most companies in 2023 will have a little concave.
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I think it’s bc Ishod likes a flat deck and Bobby tried out Ishod board so he must like the flat concave too. It may be only the 8.3 that have this mellowness.
I have the 8.0, 8.25 and 8.3 and they're all flat if you get the III or IV.
Some of y’all have never ridden a mellow flat deck and it shows. All those dlx boards are NOT FLAT not even close lol
Girl chocolate palace are pretty flat just steep kicks which is annoying.
I had a girl 7.75 that had mellow kicks but more concave on than DOAs
Now the Tae and Tar Heel reissues were good. Flatter than a mf
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Crail decks are flat laterally but have a lot of distance between the bolts and kicks so their kick angle is actually quite high. I got an 8.375 that had almost the same dims as my usual and hated it. It felt suuuuper long. So I used 2 contour gauges and a measuring tape and found the distance between the kicks was an inch longer. That might be why so many of their riders still skate "small" boards.
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Tae, Carroll, new deal 7.5s that came out were perfect flatness and kick made all my flatground effortless. I also got the recent Tom penny 96 reissue is pretty nice. If you go to your local and hand pick through some wknd quasi snack boards you’ll find them surprisingly flat but most of them are pretty steep nose normal concave. Every krooked 4 I pick up is still hilariously curvy and steep. I’ve noticed some south central boards like politic doa or 5boro on those standard molds SOME of them are slightly mellower than usual but not anywhere close to flat mold but it’s worth checking in person.
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Just ordered new forms to make very mellow molds. I should be pressing those by the end of February.
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Just ordered new forms to make very mellow molds. I should be pressing those by the end of February.
Let’s see it frothy, you seem to know what you’re doing
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I think it’s bc Ishod likes a flat deck and Bobby tried out Ishod board so he must like the flat concave too. It may be only the 8.3 that have this mellowness.
I have the 8.0, 8.25 and 8.3 and they're all flat if you get the III or IV.
Some of y’all have never ridden a mellow flat deck and it shows. All those dlx boards are NOT FLAT not even close lol
Girl chocolate palace are pretty flat just steep kicks which is annoying.
Agree.
I’m not sure I’ve had a bbs board I’d call flat. Maybe some older bakers, but those weren’t flat, more mellow (I really liked their traditional shape, pointy/mellow).
Dlx boards have an insane looking swoopy concave, rocker? I dunno what it’s called but I don’t prefer it, at all.
Older girl/choco boards were better. Yes the ones we all hated. Pgi. The newer boards do have steeper kicks and it’s not rad. They are stiffer, but I’d rather them be flat and mellow.
Hopefully this thread keeps chugging along because actual flat boards are the shit, and I need more
Recommendations
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I stacked an old pgi girl and chocolate to a modern deck and surprised to see they actually are the same angle. The thicker wood vs the new thinner wood makes the new one look steeper
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I stacked an old pgi girl and chocolate to a modern deck and surprised to see they actually are the same angle. The thicker wood vs the new thinner wood makes the new one look steeper
I’m super surprised by that, but can’t say I measured the old ones…the older wood felt floppier (over time I found I prefer floppy/whippy/flexy), and possibly mellowed out/lost it’s shape over time?
Dunno.
But it’s difficult for me to reconcile that my feelings are a lie.
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Tae, Carroll, new deal 7.5s that came out were perfect flatness and kick made all my flatground effortless. I also got the recent Tom penny 96 reissue is pretty nice. If you go to your local and hand pick through some wknd quasi snack boards you’ll find them surprisingly flat but most of them are pretty steep nose normal concave. Every krooked 4 I pick up is still hilariously curvy and steep. I’ve noticed some south central boards like politic doa or 5boro on those standard molds SOME of them are slightly mellower than usual but not anywhere close to flat mold but it’s worth checking in person.
Do you usually only ride sub 8" boards?
You have some rad boards in your posts, that's for sure!
The reason I ask is I know some woodshops use the same mold for a 7.75 as they would for an 8.5 or so, which would make the 8.5 a little more upturned through side to side, than the 7.75 which would have a little (or a lot) less for comparable width of board.
Other woodshops use different molds for different size / shape boards, to keep the concave fairly consistent from a 7.75 through to a 9+ as those boards don't usually work so well being made on the same press. I know it has been done, but some feel so weird, when compared to proportionate boards, if that makes sense.
I also get you on the DLX boards, but an interesting thing too, when comparing something like the 8.25 and the 8.38 boards - even the IV stamped 8.25 are usually still steeper than the I stamped from the 8.38 from way too many boards that have passed through my hands, both in places I worked for as well as every shop I have been in and could stand on boards - I have probably been a pain to some places over the years, but it is interesting to see anyway.
Rarely there are some 8.38 boards I have had or stood on which seem like they are way flatter than any other offering from DLX, but as you said, most are still about medium in the overall measure of concave between many woodshops.
Going through a few different woodshop boards, another one I overlooked before is HLC and some of these Plan B boards are very flat. I seem to recall people saying they have three mold options, mellow, medium or steep, so I could see these being the mellow more than anything else. There really seems like nothing through the middle and way too flat for me.
Another one which I think would be well and truely gone by now was a Bamboo board product that when sitting something across the middle, there was less than 1mm rise, so those things were flat and again nothing I would want to skate, but I have one in "the archives" so to speak.
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I ride alll shapes and sizes but my main rides are tech decks.
Yes I know most of these boards are made that is 8.5-7.75 usually is the same mold just cut to size. Also know they make specific molds for size ranges too
I noticed dlx using the true fit mold which is cool but noticed the way the concave dips is wayyyyy closest together as the standard mold is longer and smoother out slightly.
I’ve ridden some jarts specifically the mellow one and they are nice and mellower than almost every deck in the skateshop
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(https://i.ibb.co/KNd2mCs/B9-B47-A9-B-D0-E8-439-D-85-A2-A63-F035-A9116.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j8yv3hr/B4-E5-DF67-AFF1-4279-8190-3423-A9-C21-B8-A.jpg)
Here is a og yeah right size 7.6 and a reissue yeah right 8.3 and yes the wider deck will always have more concave than the skinnier but the kicks are the same
Here is also a pic of the og yea right stacked with a modern 7.5 girl
(https://i.ibb.co/D9R8b9J/C8-A5-A0-ED-1686-4079-A9-A8-EE83-BA93-F3-F8.jpg)
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I ride alll shapes and sizes but my main rides are tech decks.
Yes I know most of these boards are made that is 8.5-7.75 usually is the same mold just cut to size. Also know they make specific molds for size ranges too
I noticed dlx using the true fit mold which is cool but noticed the way the concave dips is wayyyyy closest together as the standard mold is longer and smoother out slightly.
I’ve ridden some jarts specifically the mellow one and they are nice and mellower than almost every deck in the skateshop
Thanks!
Guessing the HLC / Jart mellow is the same as those Plan B boards. We don't get Jart in AU, or at least I have never seen one here.
Still yet to get any of the DLX true fit boards here too, but I am more into a longer board and wheelbase anyway. Interesting you have noticed that and curious to stand on one at least when they do come.
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Next time I’m at the shop I’ll stack a true mold krooked (14wb) on top of a standard krooked(14.3wb)
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I have a new Polar P2 and a new DOA Flat as fuck, and the P2 tail is a little more mellow. Kind of surprised me.
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This is one I had been sitting on for a long time, a very mellow DLX 8.38 Real, when compared to my usual DLX 8.38 IV board. I hadn't wanted to set it up thinking it was going to be too flat, but finally thought I would give it a go and see.
It sure is way flatter than anything else and although a little too flat for transition, it is ok for street stuff. It also feels smaller overall, but there are no differences in dimensions from the other 8.38 boards I usually ride.
Probably still not as flat as some, but it is interesting for comparisons.
(https://i.ibb.co/tDhmddr/Mellow-board-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqPmBBY)
(https://i.ibb.co/cwGDd6v/Mellow-board-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C6khFbt)
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This is one I had been sitting on for a long time, a very mellow DLX 8.38 Real, when compared to my usual DLX 8.38 IV board. I hadn't wanted to set it up thinking it was going to be too flat, but finally thought I would give it a go and see.
It sure is way flatter than anything else and although a little too flat for transition, it is ok for street stuff. It also feels smaller overall, but there are no differences in dimensions from the other 8.38 boards I usually ride.
Probably still not as flat as some, but it is interesting for comparisons.
(https://i.ibb.co/tDhmddr/Mellow-board-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqPmBBY)
(https://i.ibb.co/cwGDd6v/Mellow-board-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C6khFbt)
Those are not considered mellow to me.
These are what I consider mellow
(https://i.ibb.co/cCqDbpx/C1-E50-B54-D808-4525-92-B2-044-B508-CB26-E.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/B329tKt/E8-E82802-1257-4-D0-B-8-ED0-76-FBC6-E408-DB.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8NnzgzW/485-EB389-6699-4-AFD-9-ABF-666-D7-BC4-F11-B.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/2NNPpc9/image.jpg)
Tom penny top and jart bottom
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(https://i.postimg.cc/50B4n7dY/20230124-182416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcL1LtLd)
(https://i.postimg.cc/26RjdpJN/20230124-182434.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F4VDYNZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnJTg84f/20230124-182440.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9nGKWB5)
Og Girl Sheffey. Pretty flat. Exact flat as tar heel and tae re issue. Those reissues must be the most accurate reissues ever.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/50B4n7dY/20230124-182416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcL1LtLd)
(https://i.postimg.cc/26RjdpJN/20230124-182434.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F4VDYNZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnJTg84f/20230124-182440.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9nGKWB5)
Og Girl Sheffey. Pretty flat. Exact flat as tar heel and tae re issue. Those reissues must be the most accurate reissues ever.
Board looks so good.
I’d love an 8 with this shape. As much as I worshipped 7.5s they are a little too much for me now. A good 7.75 is still a go. Aaaaanyways.
Haven’t had a real good truly flat board in a long while. Had a few hi-teks and those were decently flat.
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A few scum co uses the press similar Hitek by the same woodshop I think the top will have a stamp c6 or 7 or something like that
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A few scum co uses the press similar Hitek by the same woodshop I think the top will have a stamp c6 or 7 or something like that
Aye thanks, I’ll try that. Dope brand, don’t think the locals stock em.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/50B4n7dY/20230124-182416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcL1LtLd)
(https://i.postimg.cc/26RjdpJN/20230124-182434.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F4VDYNZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnJTg84f/20230124-182440.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9nGKWB5)
Og Girl Sheffey. Pretty flat. Exact flat as tar heel and tae re issue. Those reissues must be the most accurate reissues ever.
Iirc they just used the original molds. PS has a room full of like hundreds of molds which is why he went to the serial # system, shit was too hard to keep track of. If you watch enough bts factory tour vids you'll see it/hear him talk about it eventually.
I have a Tae and I love just blasting ollies on it but it feels like I'm skating a ski for the first few minutes. 7.5 with old sz 12 feet is not a great match.
@nosneb maybe I'll dig out the pop secret prototype and show everyone what "mellow" looks like haha... Pretty sure I still have it somewhere. That's the only board I've ever thought was too flat, I just could not flip it until I put heavy ass old indy standards on it.
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Yea when I was taking girl boards out to stack for that photo a few post above. I thought about using one of those pgi prototypes that was actually mellower than the yeah right
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(https://i.postimg.cc/50B4n7dY/20230124-182416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcL1LtLd)
(https://i.postimg.cc/26RjdpJN/20230124-182434.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F4VDYNZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnJTg84f/20230124-182440.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9nGKWB5)
Og Girl Sheffey. Pretty flat. Exact flat as tar heel and tae re issue. Those reissues must be the most accurate reissues ever.
Iirc they just used the original molds. PS has a room full of like hundreds of molds which is why he went to the serial # system, shit was too hard to keep track of. If you watch enough bts factory tour vids you'll see it/hear him talk about it eventually.
I have a Tae and I love just blasting ollies on it but it feels like I'm skating a ski for the first few minutes. 7.5 with old sz 12 feet is not a great match.
@nosneb maybe I'll dig out the pop secret prototype and show everyone what "mellow" looks like haha... Pretty sure I still have it somewhere. That's the only board I've ever thought was too flat, I just could not flip it until I put heavy ass old indy standards on it.
I didn't mind riding 7.5. I wear size 13. It is just hard to keep finding nice 7.5s.
I liked it cause hardly and wheel bite. My toe or heel would hit first before wheel bite hit. Lol
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Maxallure advertises some of their boards as being flat concave, from pgi. Dunno if anyone has had one of these, not super looking forward to being the oldest guy with one of these, buuuuuuut who am I kidding? I skate solo flatground missions. It cannot be as bad as when I had an April board
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Maxallure advertises some of their boards as being flat concave, from pgi. Dunno if anyone has had one of these, not super looking forward to being the oldest guy with one of these, buuuuuuut who am I kidding? I skate solo flatground missions. It cannot be as bad as when I had an April board
When they started it was all pgi but lately I seen some bbs
Seen a bunch of Natural koncept at my local they use pgi and I’ve seen a 775
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Thanks for posting some of those old boards.
It actually reminds me of a 90s Real 8.5 board that I should dig out and take pics of too.
That thing was completely flat, or at least felt like it, but it has nothing on anything else I have, even from the 92 or so Firm boards, which felt almost as flat as the Blind banana skull reissue from a while back.
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Maxallure advertises some of their boards as being flat concave, from pgi. Dunno if anyone has had one of these, not super looking forward to being the oldest guy with one of these, buuuuuuut who am I kidding? I skate solo flatground missions. It cannot be as bad as when I had an April board
Seen a bunch of Natural koncept at my local they use pgi and I’ve seen a 775
Natty Kon cannot be bad
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When you log in and no one has posted in this, or the 7.75 safe space, or the venture 2020 thread. 😣
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I was going to get out those boards, but it has been rainy here and I know not to get out old wood with such humidity.
Sorry, will try better next time.
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Thank You decks (some of them) are quite mellow in both kicks and wings, but some are not at all. Inspect in person at a shop if possible or order from somewhere that takes glamour shots of the concave.
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few years back seen the daewon thank tiger 775 it was veryyyy mellowalso seen letici bufoni emoji board same mold pretty much. shoulda grabbed em :'(
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few years back seen the daewon thank tiger 775 it was veryyyy mellowalso seen letici bufoni emoji board same mold pretty much. shoulda grabbed em :'(
And this is where…like I’m not going to mail order and take a chance on a thank you board.
And the shops that are good near me, are probably not (definitely not) going to have a thank you board.
But now I’m tempted.
Concave preferences are the worst, because you have to see em in person.
Unfortunately it seems like the vast majority of consumers want bbs boards, so that is all that is at the shop. (TBC I don’t blame the shops: people want boards that are gonna last a month and half, and for a board to be able to go the distance, it’s going to need some bends).
Thanks for all ideas.
Totally not going to go look at thank you skateboards ig now
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few years back seen the daewon thank tiger 775 it was veryyyy mellowalso seen letici bufoni emoji board same mold pretty much. shoulda grabbed em :'(
And this is where…like I’m not going to mail order and take a chance on a thank you board.
And the shops that are good near me, are probably not (definitely not) going to have a thank you board.
But now I’m tempted.
Concave preferences are the worst, because you have to see em in person.
Unfortunately it seems like the vast majority of consumers want bbs boards, so that is all that is at the shop. (TBC I don’t blame the shops: people want boards that are gonna last a month and half, and for a board to be able to go the distance, it’s going to need some bends).
Thanks for all ideas.
Totally not going to go look at thank you skateboards ig now
Forgot to mention they where psstix presses
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few years back seen the daewon thank tiger 775 it was veryyyy mellowalso seen letici bufoni emoji board same mold pretty much. shoulda grabbed em :'(
And this is where…like I’m not going to mail order and take a chance on a thank you board.
And the shops that are good near me, are probably not (definitely not) going to have a thank you board.
But now I’m tempted.
Concave preferences are the worst, because you have to see em in person.
Unfortunately it seems like the vast majority of consumers want bbs boards, so that is all that is at the shop. (TBC I don’t blame the shops: people want boards that are gonna last a month and half, and for a board to be able to go the distance, it’s going to need some bends).
Thanks for all ideas.
Totally not going to go look at thank you skateboards ig now
Forgot to mention they where psstix presses
Damn.
It is undeniable that ps really fucks up some boards, like a significant amount.
But I just cannot quit them. Their concave, and shapes, are the best.
I’ve tried to look up which toy machine boards are ps (couldn’t tell), or track down some more ps mellow stuff, hard to find that info online.
I have never skated an hlc board, but they sound like what I’m looking for
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Lured back to this place after hearing about the demise of DOA. I am currently skating a clutch blank that is weirdly flat, really enjoying it as best I can coming off an ankle injury. I was at a shop last week looking at Sour boards (HLC) and was reminded that they're decently flat and also pointy which is a big deal for me. Thinking one of those might be next.
I know PS Pressed Toy Machine boards been mentioned here, but Fletch once sent me a couple (lightly skated) ones in a trade and told me that they're the closest thing to E-mold.
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Lured back to this place after hearing about the demise of DOA. I am currently skating a clutch blank that is weirdly flat, really enjoying it as best I can coming off an ankle injury. I was at a shop last week looking at Sour boards (HLC) and was reminded that they're decently flat and also pointy which is a big deal for me. Thinking one of those might be next.
I know PS Pressed Toy Machine boards been mentioned here, but Fletch once sent me a couple (lightly skated) ones in a trade and told me that they're the closest thing to E-mold.
I don’t skate. But I might buy some skate stuff because I’m back to lurking. Terrible.
Any idea on how to find out which Toy Machine boards are PS? There’s no way the local shops carry that, so I’d be flying blind on the order. A bad toy machine doesn’t sound fun. I’ve had some of their boards in the past and tbh really enjoyed the flat/pointy, and the wood was decent. This is like 12 ish years ago but still.
The hlc boards are the ones that have my interest the most
Glad the ankle is recovering
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Lured back to this place after hearing about the demise of DOA. I am currently skating a clutch blank that is weirdly flat, really enjoying it as best I can coming off an ankle injury. I was at a shop last week looking at Sour boards (HLC) and was reminded that they're decently flat and also pointy which is a big deal for me. Thinking one of those might be next.
I know PS Pressed Toy Machine boards been mentioned here, but Fletch once sent me a couple (lightly skated) ones in a trade and told me that they're the closest thing to E-mold.
I don’t skate. But I might buy some skate stuff because I’m back to lurking. Terrible.
Any idea on how to find out which Toy Machine boards are PS? There’s no way the local shops carry that, so I’d be flying blind on the order. A bad toy machine doesn’t sound fun. I’ve had some of their boards in the past and tbh really enjoyed the flat/pointy, and the wood was decent. This is like 12 ish years ago but still.
The hlc boards are the ones that have my interest the most
Glad the ankle is recovering
No idea. My understanding was that the pro boards were PS and that it was the logos that are iffy...but I haven't been keeping up. Of the boards from Fletch, one was a Jeremy Leberes IIRC. This was about 2 years ago.
The Sour HLC boards are a lot better looking than Toy and (last time I tried) I preferred the wood. I had an 8.5" and it was pretty mellow, and the smaller 8.125 I saw at the shop looked and felt even more so. It could have also been a fluke, but I think at least one of their shapes (S1?) is intentionally mellow.
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I do have a stack right now (to include a P2 and DOA flat) but once I go throuh it I am done ordering decks…I’ll just sort through the local for something mellow. Tired of wasting me money gambling with getting a steep deck or a mellow version.
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I do have a stack right now (to include a P2 and DOA flat) but once I go throuh it I am done ordering decks…I’ll just sort through the local for something mellow. Tired of wasting me money gambling with getting a steep deck or a mellow version.
This is a good plan, and I love the local shops, but board manufacturing is so homogenized.
Yeah nacho I think hlc is my next, mellow and pointy is my fave
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I know what I said above but I just got another deck. If you are looking for very little concave and want to skate something different, check out that Theories Nucleus shape. 8.75 x 32.25, 14.25 wb (according to the site…I have not measured it yet but at least the length seems legit). I got a good deal on it and couldn’t pass it up.
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Lured back to this place after hearing about the demise of DOA. I am currently skating a clutch blank that is weirdly flat, really enjoying it as best I can coming off an ankle injury. I was at a shop last week looking at Sour boards (HLC) and was reminded that they're decently flat and also pointy which is a big deal for me. Thinking one of those might be next.
I know PS Pressed Toy Machine boards been mentioned here, but Fletch once sent me a couple (lightly skated) ones in a trade and told me that they're the closest thing to E-mold.
I don’t skate. But I might buy some skate stuff because I’m back to lurking. Terrible.
Any idea on how to find out which Toy Machine boards are PS? There’s no way the local shops carry that, so I’d be flying blind on the order. A bad toy machine doesn’t sound fun. I’ve had some of their boards in the past and tbh really enjoyed the flat/pointy, and the wood was decent. This is like 12 ish years ago but still.
The hlc boards are the ones that have my interest the most
Glad the ankle is recovering
No idea. My understanding was that the pro boards were PS and that it was the logos that are iffy...but I haven't been keeping up. Of the boards from Fletch, one was a Jeremy Leberes IIRC. This was about 2 years ago.
The Sour HLC boards are a lot better looking than Toy and (last time I tried) I preferred the wood. I had an 8.5" and it was pretty mellow, and the smaller 8.125 I saw at the shop looked and felt even more so. It could have also been a fluke, but I think at least one of their shapes (S1?) is intentionally mellow.
Most monster/logo decks I've seen in the states are PS, but theres still a lot of pandemic wood floating around and some of those are chinese. There's even some Watson wood still available from their pandemic Tumyeto runs. Luckily PA boards are stamped and stickered, so just look for the identifying marks. The Chinese ones say made in China and the ones I've seen were all steep. The Watson ones were only a couple old graphics but they have med kicks and flat concave.
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Lured back to this place after hearing about the demise of DOA. I am currently skating a clutch blank that is weirdly flat, really enjoying it as best I can coming off an ankle injury. I was at a shop last week looking at Sour boards (HLC) and was reminded that they're decently flat and also pointy which is a big deal for me. Thinking one of those might be next.
I know PS Pressed Toy Machine boards been mentioned here, but Fletch once sent me a couple (lightly skated) ones in a trade and told me that they're the closest thing to E-mold.
I don’t skate. But I might buy some skate stuff because I’m back to lurking. Terrible.
Any idea on how to find out which Toy Machine boards are PS? There’s no way the local shops carry that, so I’d be flying blind on the order. A bad toy machine doesn’t sound fun. I’ve had some of their boards in the past and tbh really enjoyed the flat/pointy, and the wood was decent. This is like 12 ish years ago but still.
The hlc boards are the ones that have my interest the most
Glad the ankle is recovering
No idea. My understanding was that the pro boards were PS and that it was the logos that are iffy...but I haven't been keeping up. Of the boards from Fletch, one was a Jeremy Leberes IIRC. This was about 2 years ago.
The Sour HLC boards are a lot better looking than Toy and (last time I tried) I preferred the wood. I had an 8.5" and it was pretty mellow, and the smaller 8.125 I saw at the shop looked and felt even more so. It could have also been a fluke, but I think at least one of their shapes (S1?) is intentionally mellow.
Most monster/logo decks I've seen in the states are PS, but theres still a lot of pandemic wood floating around and some of those are chinese. There's even some Watson wood still available from their pandemic Tumyeto runs. Luckily PA boards are stamped and stickered, so just look for the identifying marks. The Chinese ones say made in China and the ones I've seen were all steep. The Watson ones were only a couple old graphics but they have med kicks and flat concave.
I’ve never skated/seen a popsicle watson board, but some of their pool/vert/old school shapes are the flattest boards I’ve ever witnessed.
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For those who care, Politic dropped some Flat as Fucks today. Stoked.
https://politicbrand.com/collections/frontpage/products/brian-powderly-x-push-x-static-vi-deck
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For those who care, Politic dropped some Flat as Fucks today. Stoked.
https://politicbrand.com/collections/frontpage/products/brian-powderly-x-push-x-static-vi-deck
any idea on the other dimensions?