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Title: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: reptar_bar on March 02, 2023, 10:15:48 AM
Trying to get better at slappy grinds and wondering what kind of wheels make slappy’s easier, big or small? Like should I try some tiny wheels or some big chonkers? What’s everyone’s preferred wheels for slapping? 
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 02, 2023, 10:20:50 AM
For me: Spitfire F4 97a Classic 54-56mm.

Small enough for me to not have to push so much, soft enough for crustier parking lots, can still slide, and the rounder shape gets me on the curb easier.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Frank and Fred on March 02, 2023, 10:21:15 AM
The beauty of slappies is anything works.

60mm 95a. Roll on with ease, a bit of grip to really lean into it on the approach.

or

50mm 101a. slip slide around, lots of hanger exposure for more grind room.

Slappies are great b/c you don't have to overthink things. Run what you brung.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2023, 10:40:36 AM
Lots of opinions in the Slappy/Curb thread...easily searchable.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116360.msg3539446#msg3539446

Personally, I think the Bones V5 is the best slappy wheel I've skated, round enough to not be fickle getting onto curbs, and the square edge locks in very nicely. I run 52s and slappy just fine. I usually don't go past 53/54 for a primarily 'street' setup.

Larger spit classics will also work very well, though I find the smaller you go with classics the easier it is roll out getting on or off during the slappy grind of choice.

Much will depend on the type of curb...is it worn and rounded? Square edged? But any wheel, likewise, any setup will work...it's ok to slappy AND do flippity shit...you don't really need a 10" board and 169s (most double sided curbs can easily be skated with 159/149s, but you do you).

Absolutely hate spit tablets for slappys...so many willy grinds for some reason.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Easy Slider on March 02, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Below 48 can get a bit difficult to get on regular curbs.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: HyperBeam on March 02, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
lol i'm usually opposed to "specialty gear" questions like this, but with slappys i think it's funny because theoretically it seems they would be easier with either really small or really large wheels, doesn't matter which, and only relatively more difficult with medium sized wheels (53mm-56mm).

although in practice i don't think it makes a difference
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: moonordie on March 02, 2023, 11:38:34 AM
53mm OG classics F4 have been nice to me
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: reptar_bar on March 02, 2023, 11:40:00 AM
Lots of opinions in the Slappy/Curb thread...easily searchable.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=116360.msg3539446#msg3539446

Personally, I think the Bones V5 is the best slappy wheel I've skated, round enough to not be fickle getting onto curbs, and the square edge locks in very nicely. I run 52s and slappy just fine. I usually don't go past 53/54 for a primarily 'street' setup.

Larger spit classics will also work very well, though I find the smaller you go with classics the easier it is roll out getting on or off during the slappy grind of choice.

Much will depend on the type of curb...is it worn and rounded? Square edged? But any wheel, likewise, any setup will work...it's ok to slappy AND do flippity shit...you don't really need a 10" board and 169s (most double sided curbs can easily be skated with 159/149s, but you do you).

Absolutely hate spit tablets for slappys...so many willy grinds for some reason.

Lmao dude I have been running spit tablets since they came out and notice that I slip out of 50’s on anything rounded when slapping. Maybe I’ll try something else next time.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 02, 2023, 11:45:43 AM
Depends on your coast.

West coast angle vs east coast over vert.

I feel smaller wheels like 52 down are easier on over vert. Lighter is better for me when slamming into curbs. Lower trucks too.

Everything is easier on a block or curb when you're low and slow

I don't slappy much tho. I like to pop in and out so I ride everything big for speed mostly.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: manysnakes on March 02, 2023, 11:48:56 AM
Below 48 can get a bit difficult to get on regular curbs.

I was given some 47mm wheels and I found them to be frankly dangerous for slappies. I don't understand how anyone could use them for that.

As for my favorite Slappy wheel, I definitely find that a wheel with a rolled over edge helps. I just use Spitfire F4 Classics. The wheels I have now were I think 53mm when I started, and I'd guess they're ~50-51mm now. They work fine, I see no need for a "slappy" wheel, whatever that would entail.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: logjammin on March 02, 2023, 12:41:41 PM
I love bigger wheels 56mm-60mm for handling all-terrain, but when it comes to slappies they kinda throw me off. Like I'm hanging onto a weird angled roll instead of a grind. I actually prefer 52-54mm classic shaped F4's for curbs and coping. Feels more graceful, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: streetmeat on March 02, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: big_kev_215 on March 02, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
I find just the Spitfire 99a F4 classics in the 53mm range to be the best (let’s say 52mm-55mm).  Not a fan of more squared-off wheels for slappies personally
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: DeadSquidMask on March 02, 2023, 02:54:39 PM
When learning, I found that the biggest, hardest wheels possible where they key for finally getting “it,” more so than the shape.

I added risers and found the taller setups worked very well for slappies, for me.

Then I reverted to the normal gear, making the change gradually. It really helped me get comfy and learn stuff. Now I skate curbs more than anything else.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Bupstop on March 02, 2023, 02:56:06 PM
Spitfire Classics work best for me. The round edge helps me pop over onto the curb or ledge. I use 52s. I can slappy on squared off wheels but I find it easier with the classic rounded.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: jsettle on March 02, 2023, 03:53:51 PM
any wheels you want will work fine
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 02, 2023, 07:23:54 PM
Echoing what so many others have said: I’ve never tried a size/shape I wasn’t able to smack a proper slappy with.
Try to resist over thinking it: whatever you’re running right now is great.
That said, those Spitfire Lock-Ins are real nice & easy due to the rounder conical outer lip to ease you on & squared off inner lip to hold you there. Essentially 1/2 Conical & 1/2 Tablet. No big deal, though.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 02, 2023, 07:52:35 PM
54 classics.

I can’t stand how skinny they are but they glide up a curb with ease
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Ok on March 02, 2023, 08:02:24 PM
54 classics.

I can’t stand how skinny they are but they glide up a curb with ease

What do you not like about the skinny?
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2023, 08:08:09 PM
it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs

It's funny, I hit the local curbs and there's rarely a person NOT on some behemoth board (and skating slow), and yet a few are always like 'I can't/don't flip my board anymore, it's too big'...

I don't get it? I lose tricks on big ass boards, but I don't lose slappies on an 8.125. What's worse is watching them try and shove or flip (let alone out of a grind)...they almost never pop out..so gross...clunk, bail....these aren't old dudes either.

I skate curbs like ledges, I bring my pop out game when slapping for almost all tricks.

Curb killer on the other hand...man knows how trick in and out of slappies.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on March 02, 2023, 08:08:40 PM
it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs

All that needs to be said.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 02, 2023, 08:39:16 PM
IMO it depends on what you're doing. When I learned slappy 50s, nosegrinds, and smiths, I definitely didn't care much and if anything, preferred conical fulls. Once I tried to learn crooks, I could never lock in properly. Moving to a slimmer shape helped me get into them consistently. Also a slimmer wheel usually helped me hold onto noseslides longer. I don't think there's a magic wheel that will help with slappies in general, but the shape and surface area definitely do play some noticable part.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Weezil on March 02, 2023, 08:41:48 PM
as far as normal street wheels go (52-56mm 99-101a) I dont think it matters.

maybe with super small wheels or super big wheels it could cause an issue, haven't tried anything smaller than a 52 in over 10 years, haven't tried anything over 56 for regular wheels. I did have issues with cruiser wheels though, little sticky.

Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: TheLowerBack on March 02, 2023, 11:26:36 PM
Size really doesn't matter. Shape only really matters on your preference and how you hold certain grinds, ie-some people can't lock 50's on round wheels as well, some people can't lock K's on square wheels.
I like 52's(in general) because I find nose slide to K or 180 nosegrind easier on smaller wheels.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 03, 2023, 12:23:35 AM
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54 classics.

I can’t stand how skinny they are but they glide up a curb with ease
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What do you not like about the skinny?

Honestly, they just feel they’re more edge than riding surface and most of the spots I like are a tad too crusty for them, I found my compromise in the f4 radial. It’s the healthy mix of rounded edge and wheel bottom for me
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Andmoreagain on March 03, 2023, 05:02:36 AM
I think any wheel works.

Anyone remember when OJ marketed those round wheels as good for slappies  ::)
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: streetmeat on March 03, 2023, 05:16:17 AM
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it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs
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It's funny, I hit the local curbs and there's rarely a person NOT on some behemoth board (and skating slow), and yet a few are always like 'I can't/don't flip my board anymore, it's too big'...

I don't get it? I lose tricks on big ass boards, but I don't lose slappies on an 8.125. What's worse is watching them try and shove or flip (let alone out of a grind)...they almost never pop out..so gross...clunk, bail....these aren't old dudes either.

I skate curbs like ledges, I bring my pop out game when slapping for almost all tricks.

Curb killer on the other hand...man knows how trick in and out of slappies.

i'll admit that at my age, my trick selection and style has transitioned into being 90% 'slappy guy' but i still like to flip my board, pop my board and do everything else. i learned how to slappy on a 7.75 with literal bearing condoms and probably some 5" wide hangers on some Royals in the early 00s so the whole dedicated curb setup thing just seems like a gimmick to sell gimmicks to people
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: disclosed on March 03, 2023, 05:39:30 AM
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it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs
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It's funny, I hit the local curbs and there's rarely a person NOT on some behemoth board (and skating slow), and yet a few are always like 'I can't/don't flip my board anymore, it's too big'...

I don't get it? I lose tricks on big ass boards, but I don't lose slappies on an 8.125. What's worse is watching them try and shove or flip (let alone out of a grind)...they almost never pop out..so gross...clunk, bail....these aren't old dudes either.

I skate curbs like ledges, I bring my pop out game when slapping for almost all tricks.

Curb killer on the other hand...man knows how trick in and out of slappies.

stop bullying me!

i can slappy on any board. i agree, but personally prefer a wider board. in general.
i do believe a wider truck helps a little, and the leverage, but it shouldnt matter to the point of changing your setup.
but i think i lot of guys just like skating the big boards sometimes. its like dumb fun. i think the whole curb setup thing comes from people seeing curbs as the one place where they can just play around with some big boards if they normally skate smaller decks. its all about having some fun and nothing too serious.

on topic, i think smaller wheels are better, especially for those real 90 degee curbs here.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: manysnakes on March 03, 2023, 06:27:25 AM
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it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs
[close]

It's funny, I hit the local curbs and there's rarely a person NOT on some behemoth board (and skating slow), and yet a few are always like 'I can't/don't flip my board anymore, it's too big'...

I don't get it? I lose tricks on big ass boards, but I don't lose slappies on an 8.125. What's worse is watching them try and shove or flip (let alone out of a grind)...they almost never pop out..so gross...clunk, bail....these aren't old dudes either.

I skate curbs like ledges, I bring my pop out game when slapping for almost all tricks.

Curb killer on the other hand...man knows how trick in and out of slappies.

Where I am, there are a few of these people but they never seem to be connected to whatever nascent "scene" exists around curbs - they always seem like old guys who kinda got sold on the idea of building a "slappy complete" or otherwise believe that one must skate an 9" deck with no nose if they are over ~35. I always kept my popsicle, but there was a moment of weakness, when I was returning to skating, where I bought a Welcome shaped deck with 159 trucks and shit, because I just kind of ambiently understood that this was the normal size skateboard for someone my age. Nowadays, I skate between an 8 and 8.25" almost exclusively.

Almost all of the best curb skaters at my local spots are skating what I would consider a fairly "standard popsicle" in the 8-8.75" range.

I personally find it much easier to slappy with 144-149 trucks, which when combined with a relatively narrow wheel like a Spitfire Classic, will lock in perfectly on most average double-sided curbs. Wide trucks lack this ability, and there's substantially more metal one must lift all the way on top.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Síota on March 03, 2023, 06:36:34 AM
Quote from: Andmoreagain link=topic=12e5637.msg3973540#msg3973540 date=1677848556
I think any wheel works.

Anyone remember when OJ marketed those round wheels as good for slappies  ::)

You mean these?
(https://i.ibb.co/Fn6CfjP/IMG-20230303-153237-484.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fn6CfjP)

I honestly forget where, why and how I have them. Instant flat spots I imagine.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: rawbertson. on March 03, 2023, 08:03:00 AM
Best at what?

The EASIEST will always be something with the most rounded corners so you can get up onto 2 wheels more easily / put the board onto its side. i would think spitfire classic shape is the most rounded but people have mentioned other brands and i believe its the same idea. As others said though, those will not necessarily lock into the grind as well/ fall out of the grind easier.

I slappy on 8" and 9" setups with wheels 47mm 103a to 58mm 95a. I dont really find one easier than the other or better. They are all conical full shaped wheels i believe - but from OJ, Bones and Spitfire (my spitfires for sure are this shape). Very Wide , rounded corners on all of them.

i personally like having a harder wheel and slightly tighter trucks just because i feel like its easier to powerslide and tilt with that combo. i dont need it though ,i have done it with loose trucks + soft wheels. I prefer the harder wheels for noseslide tricks too so all in all it just makes for a more fun session for me to have a harder wheel. dont need to wax so hard on the side of the curb. I am really happy with the F4 99a, good mix of grip + slide. I am curious to try 97s but I dont think I need them.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 03, 2023, 10:56:47 AM
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it doesnt matter at all. anything works. dont buy into the whole ‘curb setup’ bs
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All that needs to be said.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: rawbertson. on March 03, 2023, 11:08:12 AM
i feel like a proper "curb setup" is acutally very shitty at doing slappies and flip tricks, and basically anything. you just have to be that much sicker at skating to make it work and that is part of the fun of it. you dont build it to make it easier, you build it to make it more difficult!
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: backinaction on March 03, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
i would think spitfire classic shape is the most rounded

Little Doodies would like to have a word with you.

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Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 03, 2023, 11:41:20 PM
I bet Rat bones are the best actually. Ive used them a few times. It's wide soft  and off set. The outside edge of the wheel over hangs the nut probably grips the wall of the curb and now they slide too. 
Def look like you can slappy at least. Get a trucker hat a tad t shirt and a brown flannel.

My rat bones twos aren't the best for curbs. The flex side to side. Probably be better with 6.1s so they don't lock both sides of the curb.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 27, 2023, 10:41:03 AM
I’m old and bloated. I skate 78-97a depending. Given that most of my skating is slappys I think I might have some sage advice here: slam the curb at a 45° angle and try not to fall.

Really though, you want wheels that have enough meat on the outer wall to sort of shimmy in the curb, but not enough to slow you down once you’re up there.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: Xen on May 27, 2023, 11:35:39 AM
Been mucking around with wheels of late, slappys, flat and ollies (gaps/stuff): All 52mm with 2 exceptions

Spitfire - Formula 4 99a

Spit Conical
Spit Tablet
Spit Classic

Bones

Bones X97a (52 and 54)
Bones STF V3 103a
Bones STF V1 103a

Smooth terrain/plaza, I'd pick V3 every time (V1 second place). Skinny for more truck area, blunstlide like a boss (nothing comes close, not even spit 101), lip allows easy rolling up and off curbs; lightweight, slim surface area.

Regs terrain, Classics all day -wish that classic slim would come back- they just roll up (and off so be cautious) anything at will.

Rough terrain: X97s V5/V1

Absolutely HATE tablets for slappys, so many willy grinds on accident it's not funny. Ledges only for me on these.

149s (or bigger if that's your thang) and V3s is soo crazy good, pinch is great with such a narrow wheel freeing up so much hanger.
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: biaherl on May 27, 2023, 12:29:50 PM
I was hung over and slappied with some 58mm. It was so easy that it was too much for me in that condition so I had to stop


54's when your hung over
Title: Re: Best Slappy Wheels?
Post by: streetmeat on May 27, 2023, 02:51:38 PM
i learned on 52 tablets and recently i switched to 56 Loophole Vs and while getting up onto things its obviously easier, i feel like i monster truck over everything a lot more and miss the lock in with bigger wheels.