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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: sle_epy on April 26, 2023, 05:02:22 AM
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I used to run two 1/8 inch Real riser pads, but after struggling with leaning slightly too forward for the last few years when doing tricks I decided to remove the back truck's riser but run the front riser still.
I never thought it would have addressed the issue but oddly it has. Where always paying attention to my front shoulder used to be a thing it isn't anymore, and my tricks are markedly more consistent.
Obv form has gotten better over time but this was like an overnight situation. I'm pretty happy about it. What're some weird things that you've found work for you?
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i need my board to sound like you threw a handful of change in a dryer. anything to make it rattle and sound loud. i keep my axel nuts flush with the end of the axel so they rattle back and forth. i skate only 100+ durometer wheels on crust. i wont fix my rails if they are pulling out. etc etc
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i need my board to sound like you threw a handful of change in a dryer. anything to make it rattle and sound loud. i keep my axel nuts flush with the end of the axel so they rattle back and forth. i skate only 100+ durometer wheels on crust. i wont fix my rails if they are pulling out. etc etc
I couldn't be more opposite. I'd skate a new board everyday if I could.
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i need my board to sound like you threw a handful of change in a dryer. anything to make it rattle and sound loud. i keep my axel nuts flush with the end of the axel so they rattle back and forth. i skate only 100+ durometer wheels on crust. i wont fix my rails if they are pulling out. etc etc
I couldn't be more opposite. I'd skate a new board everyday if I could.
truly disgusting. i'm on some shit where i am on borrowed time with my trucks but i'm determined to skate them till they snap and or bend. my front pivot cup is basically nonexistent and just metal on metal at this point
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I have no quirks on my setup by design. growing up my setup was a hodgepodge of quirks so nowadays I relish in the fact my board is "normal".
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i need my board to sound like you threw a handful of change in a dryer. anything to make it rattle and sound loud. i keep my axel nuts flush with the end of the axel so they rattle back and forth. i skate only 100+ durometer wheels on crust. i wont fix my rails if they are pulling out. etc etc
I couldn't be more opposite. I'd skate a new board everyday if I could.
truly disgusting. i'm on some shit where i am on borrowed time with my trucks but i'm determined to skate them till they snap and or bend. my front pivot cup is basically nonexistent and just metal on metal at this point
I ride everything tight to a fault….what you guys skate are like muscle cars….I have a Nissan leaf…
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Three bolt gang. Purely for the aesthetic.
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I like a slightly harder bushing closest to the kingpin nut. I like to believe it decreases wheel bite, but it probably doesn’t.
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i cross grip out of laziness.....
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I lost a bolt years ago setting a board up and I’ve just kept the 7 going since then
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I like a slightly harder bushing closest to the kingpin nut. I like to believe it decreases wheel bite, but it probably doesn’t.
it helps the hanger getting back to horizontal
it might make the release quicker during a wheel bite
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I lost a bolt years ago setting a board up and I’ve just kept the 7 going since then
Front truck, tail facing, heelside
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I like a slightly harder bushing closest to the kingpin nut. I like to believe it decreases wheel bite, but it probably doesn’t.
it might make the release quicker during a wheel bite
That makes sense, and I do like a fast rebound to centre, so this is good news. I suppose I could always try risers if I’m that bummed on wheel bite.
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Been rocking a washer from some bones bushings above the stock washer from my trucks as I’m convinced my truck looseness fluctuates with the temperature/weather and having that extra washer keeps the change from being super drastic.
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Been rocking a washer from some bones bushings above the stock washer from my trucks as I’m convinced my truck looseness fluctuates with the temperature/weather and having that extra washer keeps the change from being super drastic.
Interesting do you usually run standard bushings or aftermarket?
For my boards I use hardware with two different colored bolts but I put them opposite to each other so one for the front truck and the other mirrored on the back truck.
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Finger tight front truck, no washer. Skate bushings until they’re disintegrated, swapping from a set of trucks to another if necessary.
Grip with a lengthwise line showing toe-side bolts.
Always write the birthday of my best friend (rip frankie) near back toe side pocket as a reminder.
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All four wheels graphic in, white wheels only. 101+ only
Full grip, black only. Obsessive about keeping my grip as clean as possible
On a scale of 1-10, if 1 is super loose trucks and 10 is super tight trucks, I run 4 on front truck and 5 on the back truck.
I despise buying new trucks.
One off-color bolt always in bottom left corner of front.
Shorty's hardware only. I swear every other company the heads are too big and it's hard to get them flush without feeling like you're going to get stress cracks.
The second a deck has a hint of razor tail or starts feeling soft it's time for a new deck.
Fucking up and getting vertical scratches (up/down instead of across) on my deck pisses me off to an unreasonable degree.
Always run spacers and speed rings, keep spares in the kit. I don't remove bearing shields.
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Been rocking a washer from some bones bushings above the stock washer from my trucks as I’m convinced my truck looseness fluctuates with the temperature/weather and having that extra washer keeps the change from being super drastic.
Interesting do you usually run standard bushings or aftermarket?
For my boards I use hardware with two different colored bolts but I put them opposite to each other so one for the front truck and the other mirrored on the back truck.
Bones. I run the stock shit that comes with the trucks as well.
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Spit classic f4 graphics in and all lettering on the white side scraped off except for ass on my heal side rear wheel.
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My board will not turn properly. I can't figure out what is wrong with it. I set my board up just like the guys on SLS.
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My board will not turn properly. I can't figure out what is wrong with it. I set my board up just like the guys on SLS.
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Hahaha. One of those times I really wish I could gnar someone.
I guess the closest thing to a quirk I have is that I don't skate any wheels harder than 97A anymore. Other than that my setups are pretty vanilla.
Edit: Come to think about it, I guess using 20 year old cast plates with new hollow hangers can be considered quirky.
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I've had the same pair of bearing spacers on my board since about 2006. Idc if they work or not, I'm just happy they're along for the ride still.
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diagonal gold bolts, grip job & not fully tightened axle nuts
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Always taking spacers out and bearing shields off no matter what type of bearings
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I remove my bottom bushing washer on every set of trucks I own. Gives me a bigger turning radius while also letting run my trucks a bit tighter so I'm loose(ish) but stable. Also I NEVER run plain black grip with zero cutouts, grip art, etc; bad luck for me. I always need to have at least a small line cut out somewhere.
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Grip over the bolts (but I’ll always do some sort of design with lines), I also need 3 wheel graphics facing in and 1 out (which is always toe side on my back foot)
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I've had the same pair of bearing spacers on my board since about 2006. Idc if they work or not, I'm just happy they're along for the ride still.
Not sure if you mean the ones that go inside the wheel. But I used to use those after a Ride Channel article or interview someone had. I ran the outside washers and the spacers in the middle religiously. Then I set up new wheels and realized they just floated inside the wheel and did nothing.
I still run the washers and keep my wheel tight without slowing down the wheel… at least as much.
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This is a funny thread, just pointing out our shared madness (or, or some cases, OCD).
Usual ones:
- Wheel graphics always in, only white wheels
- Never use bearing spacers
- Hexagon screws need to be used only, all 8
- never a fully black griptape
Unusual ones:
- soft independent risers, always
- board has to be silent, no rattling
- I ride Jart boards, great board shapes but I don't like the brand image itself, so I always cover the Jart logo with a sticker (meaning I can only ride boards with small logos)
I, too, used to ride Frankenstein set-ups as a kid. Mixing up trucks (low in the front, high in the back, or having a tensor baseplate to an Orion hanger...). Worked fine, never felt strange.
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-every 10 sessions i swap my wheels around from back to front and left to right, as well as flipping the graphics. it's not even
really about maintaining even wear anymore, i just like doing it.
-when i'm taking off/putting on axle nuts, i spin it back and forth 7 times before moving further - no idea why i started, but it
has to be good for the trucks if i started doing it in the first place.
-i 'break in' new decks by throwing them on the ground a few times. i KNOW that it's bad for them, but i don't care because
not only does it make me feel young and free again, it's super fun.
there's a whole lot of inane grip rules too:
-i can NEVER skate a board that's plain blacktop, it just fucks with me . i like knowing where my nose is.
-the nose has to be 98% grip, and i'm not insane to measure that exactly but there can be no weird gaps
-bolts have a similar story, as little gap as possible there
-holes for the bolts have to be cut out in the grip, rather than pushing the bolts in and out until they're good enough
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Grip over the bolts (but I’ll always do so sort of design with lines), I also need 3 wheel graphics facing in and 1 out (which is always toe side on my back foot)
serious question, how do you tighten your bolts when they get loose & remove them when you switch boards?
ive seen other people do this but it doesnt make any sense to me at all
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Always taking spacers out and bearing shields off no matter what type of bearings
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I only skate odd numbered wheels, specifically 55mm and 53mm - I grew up in a small ass town in Virginia with super crusty 'street spots' so 55's were pretty necessary. I split the difference once in 2001 with some 54mm and compound fractured my arm. Skating fizzled slowly from 2005-2007 but I got back into it full force last year and tried some 54mm wheels once again and immediately ate shit and sprained my elbow bad. So henceforth only odd numbered wheels lol. Now I live in Chicago, also crusty but 53mm full conical F4's do the trick!
Full black grip forever, thunder bolts with 2 blue guys diagonal on the nose, spacers/shields gone, 8.38 on 8.5 trucks (skated 7.88 on 8 trucks during my peak and this is the evolved version). Pretty standard quirks but quirks none the less.
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I've never understood being anti-spacers and speed rings. There are absolutely zero negatives to running them even if you believe they're some kind of conspiracy by the wheel and bearing companies to get you to spend an extra 50 cents or something.
I get that people like the "sound" of shieldless bearings I guess. I tried popping shields off once and any added sound was negligible at best, and in general I've never been skating and found myself thinking "man, I just wish my board was louder somehow".
If the idea that shieldless are better because "it lets the dirt fall out" is true, then someone needs to go tell every engineer at every bearing company on the planet for as long as bearings have existed, cause somebody lied to them.
The wheel bearings on your car typically have shields too but you don't hear any mechanic saying you should pop those worthless shields off...but then maybe your car would make a super cool ZZZZZING sound?
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I assume shields off just make things noisier which is what skaters are shooting for. I don't really know if spaces make a difference as most cores are not consistent and you're still backing everything off 1/16th of a turn anyhow...
With all due respect, and I've likely used the analogy before but.....a skateboard is not like a car at all...
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I've never understood being anti-spacers...
While I do run spacers, spacers can be a detriment if a wheel's core isn't aligned. A couple times I helped set up my friends' spacers with Spitfires, the wheel wouldn't roll if spacers were used. Without spacers, the wheels rolled great.
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Grip over the bolts (but I’ll always do so sort of design with lines), I also need 3 wheel graphics facing in and 1 out (which is always toe side on my back foot)
serious question, how do you tighten your bolts when they get loose & remove them when you switch boards?
ive seen other people do this but it doesnt make any sense to me at all
I’m not a complete freak, I punch little hex holes in the bolts from the top so I can access them if they get loose; I just don’t get why people would want less grip in those areas!
Also, when you change decks you just flip the board over and give them a quick whack with your skate tool and they pop right through the grip tape! You should try it, it’s very satisfying
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I've never understood being anti-spacers and speed rings. There are absolutely zero negatives to running them even if you believe they're some kind of conspiracy by the wheel and bearing companies to get you to spend an extra 50 cents or something.
I get that people like the "sound" of shieldless bearings I guess. I tried popping shields off once and any added sound was negligible at best, and in general I've never been skating and found myself thinking "man, I just wish my board was louder somehow".
If the idea that shieldless are better because "it lets the dirt fall out" is true, then someone needs to go tell every engineer at every bearing company on the planet for as long as bearings have existed, cause somebody lied to them.
The wheel bearings on your car typically have shields too but you don't hear any mechanic saying you should pop those worthless shields off...but then maybe your car would make a super cool ZZZZZING sound?
For me spacers just don't seem necessary, one less thing to drop and have roll under a piece of furniture changing wheels. And bearings look cooler without shields - who doesn't like looking at their balls?
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I thought it was concluded that the popularity of popping shields was a ploy by big bearing to boost their profits.
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I've never understood being anti-spacers and speed rings. There are absolutely zero negatives to running them even if you believe they're some kind of conspiracy by the wheel and bearing companies to get you to spend an extra 50 cents or something.
I get that people like the "sound" of shieldless bearings I guess. I tried popping shields off once and any added sound was negligible at best, and in general I've never been skating and found myself thinking "man, I just wish my board was louder somehow".
If the idea that shieldless are better because "it lets the dirt fall out" is true, then someone needs to go tell every engineer at every bearing company on the planet for as long as bearings have existed, cause somebody lied to them.
The wheel bearings on your car typically have shields too but you don't hear any mechanic saying you should pop those worthless shields off...but then maybe your car would make a super cool ZZZZZING sound?
I rarely run spacers as they seem pointless in most scenarios. I have a few sets but wheel spacing is always too wide or too skinny. Is it too difficult for the industry to get together and decide on a number?
As for shields, I think most skaters (pros included) need to be reminded that skateboards do not have engines and therefore should not make engine sounds.
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spacers and after i cut my griptape, i always file it off to get it smooth and perfect around the edges.
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I ride skinny hard wheels and then complain about the rough ground for the whole session
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Idk, I’m really weird about bushings, not necessarily the hardness, but the color. for example, if I’m riding Indy stage 11’s, those orange bushings are great, they look aesthetically pleasing with any color combination of any wheel or deck graphic. however, if a venture truck comes with a certain color bushing, I can’t have a graphic that is completely different from that bushing. same goes with thunder. I could not ride red thunder bushings with just any graphic, but I could more than likely ride the blue ones that come in the stock team standard trucks, with any colored graphic.
I also refuse to ride any kind of bushing that is opaque in color. I despise the look. the only color bushing that I’ll ride that’s opaque, is white. like, the ace bushings, those are fine. but when I got those Indy stage 4’s and saw they had flat, opaque, red bushings, I took them out immediately. I know Indy stock bushings aren’t necessarily translucent, like thunder or venture, but they work for some reason.
I know I’m a weirdo lmao.
oh and also, I spent like $80 in hardware, so I could have a 7/8” allen head bolt in every color. so every board I get, I have a front left allen head bolt that matches the color(s) of the board graphic.
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I kinda avoid the color red. If it is a small text on the deck or shoe that is passable. Red bearing shields or red shoe soles are okay too. But never a red top, red bolts or red bushings, that's too much. If I balance the red with some green nuts, or a green drawing on my grip then it will be fine. I once painted green over a Sour deck with a red top. But since that deck was born with a red top I got hurt.
And then I have this one particular homie who gets red shoes and red decks and I get a bit nervous sometimes. ^^
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I kinda avoid the color red. If it is a small text on the deck or shoe that is passable. Red bearing shields or red shoe soles are okay too. But never a red top, red bolts or red bushings, that's too much. If I balance the red with some green nuts, or a green drawing on my grip then it will be fine. I once painted green over a Sour deck with a red top. But since that deck was born with a red top I got hurt.
And then I have this one particular homie who gets red shoes and red decks and I get a bit nervous sometimes. ^^
You might end up with a Christmas color themed setup doing that
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I've never understood being anti-spacers and speed rings. There are absolutely zero negatives to running them even if you believe they're some kind of conspiracy by the wheel and bearing companies to get you to spend an extra 50 cents or something.
I get that people like the "sound" of shieldless bearings I guess. I tried popping shields off once and any added sound was negligible at best, and in general I've never been skating and found myself thinking "man, I just wish my board was louder somehow".
If the idea that shieldless are better because "it lets the dirt fall out" is true, then someone needs to go tell every engineer at every bearing company on the planet for as long as bearings have existed, cause somebody lied to them.
The wheel bearings on your car typically have shields too but you don't hear any mechanic saying you should pop those worthless shields off...but then maybe your car would make a super cool ZZZZZING sound?
I rarely run spacers as they seem pointless in most scenarios. I have a few sets but wheel spacing is always too wide or too skinny. Is it too difficult for the industry to get together and decide on a number?
As for shields, I think most skaters (pros included) need to be reminded that skateboards do not have engines and therefore should not make engine sounds.
This is 100% correct and I hope the recent Ben DeGros video gets people to finally realize that all spacers do is push your bearings out of your wheels to break them faster and make your board sound like it has no mojo.
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1/8" Ace shock pads.
A tidge more leverage upon pop and smoothes out shit ground a smidge-a-roonie
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I like
green gold
Purple and gold
Burgundy and gold is dope too.
Also my absolute favorite color combination is watermelon light grey and brick red. I done mad pieces in this combo.
The gold comes from when I used to ride lowrider bikes with my brothers I think. Before I wasn't into it.
I ride my front right wheel graphic out. I don't remember why but I've done it for a very long time. If I can't do it I get uncomfortable af when I look at it.
The spit classic full wheel graphic brother me. I heard BA talk about that. That shit was one of those moments when you feel like WTF! YO!! We fucking small graphic gang!!Yes
No matter what the graphic size right front has to be out. I'll fuckin go back to the house and fix it if I gotta. Brb
I've noticed over the years other people do it too. I think fuckin what's his name. Daewons bud with the beard does it too.
I gotta have it or I'm not stoked.
I don't like using a razor blade to cut my grip. I fucking grind it cut with the side of a screwdriver. I hold the grind angle so it shows max top ply.
I want my grip to look like die cut.
I can't find my screwdriver rn....so that last one got cut with the blade.
I'm surprised I haven't gotten hurt over it yet.
Would have used my truck to do it but they had no grind marks yet.
It's way worse karma to scratch a brand new truck like that.
I need risers now. Even with small wheels. Unless I ain't got any then cool I'll get some later.
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I kinda avoid the color red. If it is a small text on the deck or shoe that is passable. Red bearing shields or red shoe soles are okay too. But never a red top, red bolts or red bushings, that's too much. If I balance the red with some green nuts, or a green drawing on my grip then it will be fine. I once painted green over a Sour deck with a red top. But since that deck was born with a red top I got hurt.
And then I have this one particular homie who gets red shoes and red decks and I get a bit nervous sometimes. ^^
Were you also in your early teens when Baker Has a Deathwish came out?
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I kinda avoid the color red. If it is a small text on the deck or shoe that is passable. Red bearing shields or red shoe soles are okay too. But never a red top, red bolts or red bushings, that's too much. If I balance the red with some green nuts, or a green drawing on my grip then it will be fine. I once painted green over a Sour deck with a red top. But since that deck was born with a red top I got hurt.
And then I have this one particular homie who gets red shoes and red decks and I get a bit nervous sometimes. ^^
Were you also in your early teens when Baker Has a Deathwish came out?
Wait, I gotta Google when Baker Has A Deathwish came out. I was 17 when that video came out.
I just never liked the color red that much and it only got worse over the years. When I roll up to a difficult trick (which are most of them) and I ride past some red trash or see a red car, I stop and turn around.
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Used to ride medium tight trucks last two sets i started riding loose (to me). Lost my pop for a few weeks but it’s back and loose trucks make everything easier and more forgiving. My one strange quirk is I seem to ride my trucks opposite of my friends. I ride my back truck a little looser than my front. Been doing it even when I rode tight trucks. I kinda love the fishtail feeling. Originally it happened just from how I was riding (a friend tried my board and pointed it out) and now I adjust to get it right. Don’t know why but I like to feel a little out of control. I also only tighten my axels flush and have never had to deal with rethreading. Checking the play on my wheels has become an ocd habit before doing a hard trick
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I countersink my hardware holes to clear any griptape from the holes so that there's no chance that any griptape remnants get into the threads of the hardware and inevitably ruin the hardware. I have been using a phillips screwdriver to countersink which works fine but I kind of want to get some actual countersinking drill bits from a machining tools store
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filing the griptape aftr razor cutting em..
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Strangely I always have the most horrific grip jobs…..could be it’s because I suck at it….
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Only thing I am weird about is always using the washers that come with Indy aftermarket bushings in all my trucks and Girl longneck 7/8" Allen hardware.
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i put both spacers right where trucks end to maximize griding widht
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The baseplates on my aces have fucked up oval holes. I hate it!
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The baseplates on my aces have fucked up oval holes. I hate it!
I have an extra set of classic ace baseplates that are brand new if you’d like. You can also order them from krudco
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Orchard is the only shop I'm comfortable with them gripping my bloard for me. I'm usually not ok with it at all and will rarely allow it.
I feel very superstitious about not gripping my own ride. Like it knows I didn't give it enough love and affection and it low key wants blood compensation.
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The baseplates on my aces have fucked up oval holes. I hate it!
I have an extra set of classic ace baseplates that are brand new if you’d like. You can also order them from krudco
Thank you, I ride the AF1's though... do you know if they're compatible?
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The baseplates on my aces have fucked up oval holes. I hate it!
I have an extra set of classic ace baseplates that are brand new if you’d like. You can also order them from krudco
Thank you, I ride the AF1's though... do you know if they're compatible?
Not a thousand percent sure. Likely a thread about it tho