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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Mandatory Reload on May 16, 2023, 08:36:17 AM
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from Jahmir Brown’s IG stories :(
(https://i.ibb.co/9t4X4JS/69211-ECE-50-E9-43-A9-B6-C3-A1-A69-EE6-FB27.png) (https://ibb.co/9t4X4JS)(https://i.ibb.co/p1Rfgp6/E23-C3-BD1-E5-BB-4231-ADF0-8-A67930081-EF.png) (https://ibb.co/p1Rfgp6)
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Damn. ‘Til It’s Dirt II
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Damn another USA gem I couldn't skate
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Wh - at :'(
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Philly hates skaters.
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Going to Pulaski today that isn’t really the best news to hear when I’m going to a plaza…
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y'all gotta stop paying your mf taxes in philly
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Philly hates skaters.
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remember when philly let people skate Love for 2 days but only when it was less than 10 degrees out and then steve berra ruined even those two days by announcing his Love gap berrics bounty that he never paid out?
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
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remember when DC shoes/Ken Block tried to give $1 mil to the city of philadelphia to keep love park alive? that would be really cool if they did something like that again although i think the brand in it's current state wouldn't be able to do that
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FML wish I never moved, NEED to get back to Philly ASAP and skate one of the last great east coast plaza's before they dust another one :( :(
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Damn Copley on the chopping block , now muni :(
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remember when philly let people skate Love for 2 days but only when it was less than 10 degrees out and then steve berra ruined even those two days by announcing his Love gap berrics bounty that he never paid out?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
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remember when DC shoes/Ken Block tried to give $1 mil to the city of philadelphia to keep love park alive? that would be really cool if they did something like that again although i think the brand in it's current state wouldn't be able to do that
likely costs the city far more than a million to tear it down. Then many more millions for re building it into a homeless/skater free zone
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from Jahmir Brown’s IG stories :(
(https://i.ibb.co/9t4X4JS/69211-ECE-50-E9-43-A9-B6-C3-A1-A69-EE6-FB27.png) (https://ibb.co/9t4X4JS)(https://i.ibb.co/p1Rfgp6/E23-C3-BD1-E5-BB-4231-ADF0-8-A67930081-EF.png) (https://ibb.co/p1Rfgp6)
This section in the photo with that particular row of benches is the only area thats fenced off. The rest of the plaza is open.
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Isn't that basically what happened to love?
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They can turn the middle part to grass for all I care. Those tiles are cooked.
59’s getting caught in those cracks would send you flying.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Isn't that basically what happened to love?
We skated Love for years after they turned it to grass.
The grass was kind of a blessing in disguise, too many out of towners coming in and blowing up the spot before ‘02.
The grass also effectively killed off the use of undercovers years later.
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Went to Philly for the first time last weekend and couldn't believe what they did to LOVE park. But the thing that tripped me out the most was how small it is now??? I never went when it was good, but in videos of the good old days there were multiple sections, the big 4 leading into the fountain, etc. Now it's literally the LOVE sign and a concrete slab with a shitty fountain in the middle and a bunch of metal folding chairs on the perimeter. It's tiny. Where did all the space go??
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
yeah cus one plaza shutting down in one of the largest skate scenes in the country means no one there is going to buy DCs anymore ???
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Yup both quotes perfectly sum up the situation. It was extremely sad when City Hall and LOVE were ruined, but now Muni too? Just makes me sick at this point. They're actively trying to push out a culture that had such a positive influence on the city in place of some shit nobody asked for.
Glad I got to skate these spots before they're gone but my last session at Muni was not a good one. Would hate to end on such a low note, but like many others here I probably won't be able to make it back to Philly in time
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Don't know much about Philly or Muni but it looks like they're adding grass, a shade structure and a long stair set
(https://i0.wp.com/landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fore-Paine_OLIN-Paine-Plaza-INTERVIEW94_RESIZE.jpg?w=750&ssl=1)
https://landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/2020/12/10/pained-plaza/#comments
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
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remember when philly let people skate Love for 2 days but only when it was less than 10 degrees out and then steve berra ruined even those two days by announcing his Love gap berrics bounty that he never paid out?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Tell me the story again grandpa, was out of the loop at the time.
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Went to Philly for the first time last weekend and couldn't believe what they did to LOVE park. But the thing that tripped me out the most was how small it is now??? I never went when it was good, but in videos of the good old days there were multiple sections, the big 4 leading into the fountain, etc. Now it's literally the LOVE sign and a concrete slab with a shitty fountain in the middle and a bunch of metal folding chairs on the perimeter. It's tiny. Where did all the space go??
The “levels” of LOVE’s design are what made it feel larger than it was. If you had been there when it was the OG then you’d know the remake of it is the same area. LOVE wasn’t big at all. The overall design and depth of it was what made it feel bigger than it really was.
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From what it looks like, with the renders in that article, only the space that's going to be meaningfully reconstructed is where Dan Burman did that 50. The biggest obstacle to the plaza skaters seems then to be the steps on the other side and whatever bullshit they want to fill the plaza with to make it a more pedestrian space. It's still stupid though; and I'm sure you can expect an increase in police presence once the renovation's over. The whole "projecting a new image of the city" thing only works if you have a new image to project. The only people who are going to get any meaningful use out of that grass lawn are homeless people who need to take a leak.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBrCd3J.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ajoFeoZ.jpg)
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whoever is in charge of urban planning in philly is a fucking tool
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So fucking lame
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Philly hates skaters.
Fentanyl zombies get more love from the city than skaters (ones who keep things clean/safe)
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Cities greening or whatever in the visual sense is kind of dumb if you've ever lived out in the country or visited it after having been in the city for a long time. Real nature feels low-key magical and I've never seen a curated nature space in a city that even came close or had the same feeling. Not even a large city park with nature reserves can compete with something as simple as the scenery when you're just rolling down a dusty country road right before summer hits. So green and vibrant. Keep cities cities. We don't need a meadow in the middle of them all. We don't need to destroy round the clock gathering spaces to replace them with a field people who work downtown will eat their lunch in before they head home to the burbs for the night.
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I'll bet all the junkies and homeless people are gonna love the new muni
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I'll bet all the junkies and homeless people are gonna love the new muni
grass soaks up piss better, it'll just be a giant green urine sponge
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Value engineering humanity out of existence
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Yup both quotes perfectly sum up the situation. It was extremely sad when City Hall and LOVE were ruined, but now Muni too? Just makes me sick at this point. They're actively trying to push out a culture that had such a positive influence on the city in place of some shit nobody asked for.
Glad I got to skate these spots before they're gone but my last session at Muni was not a good one. Would hate to end on such a low note, but like many others here I probably won't be able to make it back to Philly in time
I’m shocked both spots lasted as long as they did with tuffguys like Oyola fighting people and running around screaming the n-word in the 90’s. It’s a terrible look for skateboarders especially considering how one bad apple can easily ruin an average non-skater’s perspective of what we do. Sadly, all positive influence can be washed away in a second after one shitty experience with someone. As skateboarders, I feel we’re in a constant state of rebuilding our reputation. Constantly resetting the “0 days since last shitty incident” clock. That’s the only thing the people in power care to see - our shittiness.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
love is still so interesting and cool looking! you have a phenomenal view of traffic in every direction now
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
yeah cus one plaza shutting down in one of the largest skate scenes in the country means no one there is going to buy DCs anymore ???
It’s a joke given their marketing the last 5 years has been solely around reissues specifically kalis and Stevie and like 1/3 of their team is Philly people. And of only 3 non international people on the team page who aren’t from Philly two are from Jersey right outside Philly. And then ish and Danny way . Tell me they haven’t focused solely on that scene in the past few years
Side note when did Josh Wilson get on, that’s so weird something about quasi and DC just doesn’t vibe, especially with his rich boy Connecticut fits.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Yup both quotes perfectly sum up the situation. It was extremely sad when City Hall and LOVE were ruined, but now Muni too? Just makes me sick at this point. They're actively trying to push out a culture that had such a positive influence on the city in place of some shit nobody asked for.
Glad I got to skate these spots before they're gone but my last session at Muni was not a good one. Would hate to end on such a low note, but like many others here I probably won't be able to make it back to Philly in time
I’m shocked both spots lasted as long as they did with tuffguys like Oyola fighting people and running around screaming the n-word in the 90’s. It’s a terrible look for skateboarders especially considering how one bad apple can easily ruin an average non-skater’s perspective of what we do. Sadly, all positive influence can be washed away in a second after one shitty experience with someone. As skateboarders, I feel we’re in a constant state of rebuilding our reputation. Constantly resetting the “0 days since last shitty incident” clock. That’s the only thing the people in power care to see - our shittiness.
The people in power are the shitty ones. Leveling a city plaza does not reduce drug use, homelessness, or crime.
Locals tend to keep it clean and respectful in order to protect their ability to skate whatever plaza they have. Not liking skateboarding doesn’t mean skateboarding shouldn’t get to happen.
And keep in mind, the Philly government has actively ignored the millions of tourist dollars skateboarders brought in over the decades just to come and see and skate Love Park.. this was never about skaters causing chaos, it’s always about control and what is socially acceptable, and the rise of hostile architecture probably.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Cities greening or whatever in the visual sense is kind of dumb if you've ever lived out in the country or visited it after having been in the city for a long time. Real nature feels low-key magical and I've never seen a curated nature space in a city that even came close or had the same feeling. Not even a large city park with nature reserves can compete with something as simple as the scenery when you're just rolling down a dusty country road right before summer hits. So green and vibrant. Keep cities cities. We don't need a meadow in the middle of them all. We don't need to destroy round the clock gathering spaces to replace them with a field people who work downtown will eat their lunch in before they head home to the burbs for the night.
we’re all bummed about losing Muni but “no more green spaces in cities” is a pretty unhinged take lol
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Cities greening or whatever in the visual sense is kind of dumb if you've ever lived out in the country or visited it after having been in the city for a long time. Real nature feels low-key magical and I've never seen a curated nature space in a city that even came close or had the same feeling. Not even a large city park with nature reserves can compete with something as simple as the scenery when you're just rolling down a dusty country road right before summer hits. So green and vibrant. Keep cities cities. We don't need a meadow in the middle of them all. We don't need to destroy round the clock gathering spaces to replace them with a field people who work downtown will eat their lunch in before they head home to the burbs for the night.
this is definitely NOT IT
i live in a part of nyc with very little greenspace and it is really awful. when I go to prospect park or central park or even other smaller NYC blocks that are a block or two with trees and grass it can seriously lift my mood. I agree that it is no replacement for real nature, but for dense cities, greenspace all over the place is a requirement if you want them to be liveable.
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already seen a few people skating it, pushed the fences out of the way when i biked home
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Philly's mayor has been in a literal drunken stupor for pretty much his entire tenure (when he wasn't driving down to Maryland to eat in restaurants after shutting the ones in the city down) and this is how he decides to end his shitty reign, by replicating the absolute atrocity that was the razing of Love Park during Nutter's term.
Fucking shameful.
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Philly's mayor has been in a literal drunken stupor for pretty much his entire tenure (when he wasn't driving down to Maryland to eat in restaurants after shutting the ones in the city down) and this is how he decides to end his shitty reign, by replicating the absolute atrocity that was the razing of Love Park during Nutter's term.
Fucking shameful.
Anyone who lives or has lived in Philly knows the city hates skateboarding but also just hates its residents in general. They would sooner level LOVE or Muni to turn it into an open parking lot with a huge chunk of grass for hobos to shit in, if it means overall less people in the plaza. Ive noticed the architecture at LOVE is pretty much designed to keep you walking through it and is designed to be hostile to human presence or sticking around for long. This Muni redesign is probably in the same spirit as the Love park redesign, add some green bullshit and make it unskateable, while also driving out most of the people who would use it. Turn it into some instagrammable photo op vomit that people will spend 5 minutes walking through and leave after taking a picture, rather than sticking around all day. Also by adding plants that constantly need to be maintained, it creates a reason for city workers to stay busy and regularly prevent people from skating or passing out in the plaza uninterrupted.
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Yup both quotes perfectly sum up the situation. It was extremely sad when City Hall and LOVE were ruined, but now Muni too? Just makes me sick at this point. They're actively trying to push out a culture that had such a positive influence on the city in place of some shit nobody asked for.
Glad I got to skate these spots before they're gone but my last session at Muni was not a good one. Would hate to end on such a low note, but like many others here I probably won't be able to make it back to Philly in time
I’m shocked both spots lasted as long as they did with tuffguys like Oyola fighting people and running around screaming the n-word in the 90’s. It’s a terrible look for skateboarders especially considering how one bad apple can easily ruin an average non-skater’s perspective of what we do. Sadly, all positive influence can be washed away in a second after one shitty experience with someone. As skateboarders, I feel we’re in a constant state of rebuilding our reputation. Constantly resetting the “0 days since last shitty incident” clock. That’s the only thing the people in power care to see - our shittiness.
The people in power are the shitty ones. Leveling a city plaza does not reduce drug use, homelessness, or crime.
Locals tend to keep it clean and respectful in order to protect their ability to skate whatever plaza they have. Not liking skateboarding doesn’t mean skateboarding shouldn’t get to happen.
And keep in mind, the Philly government has actively ignored the millions of tourist dollars skateboarders brought in over the decades just to come and see and skate Love Park.. this was never about skaters causing chaos, it’s always about control and what is socially acceptable, and the rise of hostile architecture probably.
I agree with all of this
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
Jane Jacobs didn't argue against the existence of urban green spaces, just that they need to match the urban context that surrounds them and meet the recreational needs of the community beyond aesthetics and that an uncritical view of open space is detrimental to communities. I think there's a middle ground between "there should be no green spaces in cities" as someone in this thread argued and aggressively creating urban green spaces without concern for the other land use needs of the community. For example, there's no reason why Muni couldn't incorporate green space and plant life while still continuing to serve it's current use to skateboarders. There are tons of successful parks in places like NYC that have green space where people can lounge and hang out, play games and sports, have their dogs play, and of course serve environmental and climate purposes, while also having concrete areas that people like skateboarders/basketball players/etc. use. The goal is multi-use public spaces and if you're not including green space you're actually cutting off quite a bit of potential use for a space imo.
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Fences up. Shit over.
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
Jane Jacobs didn't argue against the existence of urban green spaces, just that they need to match the urban context that surrounds them and meet the recreational needs of the community beyond aesthetics and that an uncritical view of open space is detrimental to communities. I think there's a middle ground between "there should be no green spaces in cities" as someone in this thread argued and aggressively creating urban green spaces without concern for the other land use needs of the community. For example, there's no reason why Muni couldn't incorporate green space and plant life while still continuing to serve it's current use to skateboarders. There are tons of successful parks in places like NYC that have green space where people can lounge and hang out, play games and sports, have their dogs play, and of course serve environmental and climate purposes, while also having concrete areas that people like skateboarders/basketball players/etc. use. The goal is multi-use public spaces and if you're not including green space you're actually cutting off quite a bit of potential use for a space imo.
i don’t think you comprehend how much the political arm of philadelphia resents it’s citizens.
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do not go to shakespeare. go to cecil b
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
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do not go to shakespeare. go to cecil b
https://youtu.be/bmFVAcMTEeU
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
Jane Jacobs didn't argue against the existence of urban green spaces, just that they need to match the urban context that surrounds them and meet the recreational needs of the community beyond aesthetics and that an uncritical view of open space is detrimental to communities. I think there's a middle ground between "there should be no green spaces in cities" as someone in this thread argued and aggressively creating urban green spaces without concern for the other land use needs of the community. For example, there's no reason why Muni couldn't incorporate green space and plant life while still continuing to serve it's current use to skateboarders. There are tons of successful parks in places like NYC that have green space where people can lounge and hang out, play games and sports, have their dogs play, and of course serve environmental and climate purposes, while also having concrete areas that people like skateboarders/basketball players/etc. use. The goal is multi-use public spaces and if you're not including green space you're actually cutting off quite a bit of potential use for a space imo.
i don’t think you comprehend how much the political arm of philadelphia resents it’s citizens.
Philadelphia politics has historically been Democrat politicians who eventually end up behind bars.
The city’s been completely blue since 1960 and has had about 16 politicians from Congress to City Council end up serving prison terms since 1976.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp (https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp)
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do not go to shakespeare. go to cecil b
What do you have against shakespeare? That spot is fun. Are you trying to not let it get blown out?
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do not go to shakespeare. go to cecil b
What do you have against shakespeare? That spot is fun. Are you trying to not let it get blown out?
i dont want it 2 get mobbed, my boy popped all the stoppers off and we moved the planters when they installed them
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CsotqDYJuhN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CsotqDYJuhN/)
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
Jane Jacobs didn't argue against the existence of urban green spaces, just that they need to match the urban context that surrounds them and meet the recreational needs of the community beyond aesthetics and that an uncritical view of open space is detrimental to communities. I think there's a middle ground between "there should be no green spaces in cities" as someone in this thread argued and aggressively creating urban green spaces without concern for the other land use needs of the community. For example, there's no reason why Muni couldn't incorporate green space and plant life while still continuing to serve it's current use to skateboarders. There are tons of successful parks in places like NYC that have green space where people can lounge and hang out, play games and sports, have their dogs play, and of course serve environmental and climate purposes, while also having concrete areas that people like skateboarders/basketball players/etc. use. The goal is multi-use public spaces and if you're not including green space you're actually cutting off quite a bit of potential use for a space imo.
i don’t think you comprehend how much the political arm of philadelphia resents it’s citizens.
Philadelphia politics has historically been Democrat politicians who eventually end up behind bars.
The city’s been completely blue since 1960 and has had about 16 politicians from Congress to City Council end up serving prison terms since 1976.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp (https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp)
i don’t take you for a david oh guy. more of a jeff brown head?
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People talking about greening a city like America didn’t spend roughly seventy years bulldozing landmarks to make our urban spaces more palatable to white suburbanites.
Does no one read Jane Jacobs anymore?
Jane Jacobs didn't argue against the existence of urban green spaces, just that they need to match the urban context that surrounds them and meet the recreational needs of the community beyond aesthetics and that an uncritical view of open space is detrimental to communities. I think there's a middle ground between "there should be no green spaces in cities" as someone in this thread argued and aggressively creating urban green spaces without concern for the other land use needs of the community. For example, there's no reason why Muni couldn't incorporate green space and plant life while still continuing to serve it's current use to skateboarders. There are tons of successful parks in places like NYC that have green space where people can lounge and hang out, play games and sports, have their dogs play, and of course serve environmental and climate purposes, while also having concrete areas that people like skateboarders/basketball players/etc. use. The goal is multi-use public spaces and if you're not including green space you're actually cutting off quite a bit of potential use for a space imo.
i don’t think you comprehend how much the political arm of philadelphia resents it’s citizens.
Philadelphia politics has historically been Democrat politicians who eventually end up behind bars.
The city’s been completely blue since 1960 and has had about 16 politicians from Congress to City Council end up serving prison terms since 1976.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp (https://www.inquirer.com/politics/philadelphia/philadelphia-corruption-politicians-hall-of-shame-20220120.html?outputType=amp)
i don’t take you for a david oh guy. more of a jeff brown head?
Jeff Brown seemed cool. I liked that he was an outsider, but I didn’t know how that would equate to policy.
I actually think Cherelle Parker’s got it and I’m not mad.
David Oh was public enemy #1 for skateboarders in Love Park. He was behind some big anti skateboarding bills downtown.
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love that lil hubba at shakespeare i never see anyone there
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All of the game pieces have been removed (bingo, sorry, ect) and the dominos are as we speak…
RIP
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Does anybody know what the city is planning to do? Sorry to be uneducated on the topic but I haven’t gotten a clear impression of what is planned from social media coverage of this. Do we know for sure that Muni will be gone gone or are they just fixing up the place?
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Does anybody know what the city is planning to do? Sorry to be uneducated on the topic but I haven’t gotten a clear impression of what is planned from social media coverage of this. Do we know for sure that Muni will be gone gone or are they just fixing up the place?
the plan is basically to "match" what they've done to LOVE and City Hall. Green space, seating, etc... I haven't actually seen (or even really investigated) what the actual plans are though.
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I wonder if the old pieces will be moved to the same lot in the middle of nowhere that the Love Park tiles, trash cans, etc. are at.
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Does anybody know what the city is planning to do? Sorry to be uneducated on the topic but I haven’t gotten a clear impression of what is planned from social media coverage of this. Do we know for sure that Muni will be gone gone or are they just fixing up the place?
the plan is basically to "match" what they've done to LOVE and City Hall. Green space, seating, etc... I haven't actually seen (or even really investigated) what the actual plans are though.
This is what I found a little while back. There's more renderings in the article
Don't know much about Philly or Muni but it looks like they're adding grass, a shade structure and a long stair set
(https://i0.wp.com/landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fore-Paine_OLIN-Paine-Plaza-INTERVIEW94_RESIZE.jpg?w=750&ssl=1)
https://landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/2020/12/10/pained-plaza/#comments
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I wonder if the old pieces will be moved to the same lot in the middle of nowhere that the Love Park tiles, trash cans, etc. are at.
Similar thing happened in San Francisco when the Market Street black marble benches were removed. The city moved them to an empty lot in Hunters Point, coincidently a few blocks from the Thrasher/SLAP office.
After years of nagging, someone convinced the city to move them to Waller St where they've been for ~10 years.
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Im such a foolish wimp.
I definitely need to jump on a bus this year. I need to see it all before it's too late
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Does anybody know what the city is planning to do? Sorry to be uneducated on the topic but I haven’t gotten a clear impression of what is planned from social media coverage of this. Do we know for sure that Muni will be gone gone or are they just fixing up the place?
the plan is basically to "match" what they've done to LOVE and City Hall. Green space, seating, etc... I haven't actually seen (or even really investigated) what the actual plans are though.
This is what I found a little while back. There's more renderings in the article
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Don't know much about Philly or Muni but it looks like they're adding grass, a shade structure and a long stair set
(https://i0.wp.com/landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fore-Paine_OLIN-Paine-Plaza-INTERVIEW94_RESIZE.jpg?w=750&ssl=1)
https://landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/2020/12/10/pained-plaza/#comments
that grass is gonna be B R O W N
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Does anybody know what the city is planning to do? Sorry to be uneducated on the topic but I haven’t gotten a clear impression of what is planned from social media coverage of this. Do we know for sure that Muni will be gone gone or are they just fixing up the place?
the plan is basically to "match" what they've done to LOVE and City Hall. Green space, seating, etc... I haven't actually seen (or even really investigated) what the actual plans are though.
This is what I found a little while back. There's more renderings in the article
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Don't know much about Philly or Muni but it looks like they're adding grass, a shade structure and a long stair set
(https://i0.wp.com/landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fore-Paine_OLIN-Paine-Plaza-INTERVIEW94_RESIZE.jpg?w=750&ssl=1)
https://landscapearchitecturemagazine.org/2020/12/10/pained-plaza/#comments
This really hurts to see
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What a shame. I visited some years back just after they torn down love park unfortunately. It was weird to see how small the plazas was. both muni and love. and I didn't know that it was just next to each other. any way these two spots has given skateboarding so much.
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The group picture was a thing of beauty.
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RSVP Muni
RSVP DC Shoes
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RSVP DC Shoes
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
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whats the status of muni at the moment? is it already done? visiting philly at the end of the month and am dying to skate it before its dirt
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whats the status of muni at the moment? is it already done? visiting philly at the end of the month and am dying to skate it before its dirt
All of the benches and chess pieces are gone, but the locals are still keeping it going propping up tiles and stacking tiles to create new ledges. Looks like the final days of Muni have been pretty epic. Those guys have been doing whatever they want with what is left of the plaza since it's all going to be gone anyway. If you use Instagram, Brian Panebianco posts updates to his stories almost daily.
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whats the status of muni at the moment? is it already done? visiting philly at the end of the month and am dying to skate it before its dirt
All of the benches and chess pieces are gone, but the locals are still keeping it going propping up tiles and stacking tiles to create new ledges. Looks like the final days of Muni have been pretty epic. Those guys have been doing whatever they want with what is left of the plaza since it's all going to be gone anyway. If you use Instagram, Brian Panebianco posts updates to his stories almost daily.
4th July instagram stories showed good vibes down there, dudes were grilling while raining and ended with fireworks and a cop falling from his bike being a dumbass ;D
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Be sure to walk up and say hi to the locals. Maybe start a conversation.
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
Didn't see he replied before but you had my exact thought haha
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https://www.axios.com/local/philadelphia/2023/07/14/thomas-paine-plaza-redesign-plan
Looks just like the Love redesign, hard to tell much from those renderings but pretty shit looking overall
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dc doesn't have the money like they used to like when they offered a mil or something to save love, but muni has obviously been the heart of philly street skating in recent years, and (only guessing here) by extension a big contributor to dc's sales. you'd think they'd at the very least pay some respect to muni bring some awareness to it being torn down in a hard post on their IG or something. but nope, nothing.
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Only thing DC can offer nowadays is Teknic or Lynx colorway
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dc doesn't have the money like they used to like when they offered a mil or something to save love, but muni has obviously been the heart of philly street skating in recent years, and (only guessing here) by extension a big contributor to dc's sales. you'd think they'd at the very least pay some respect to muni bring some awareness to it being torn down in a hard post on their IG or something. but nope, nothing.
The majority of people skating DC’s here get them for free.
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After all the drama, someone from the gov contacted the guys from Philly and Muni actually gonna be rebuilt the way locals want and make it legal spot. confirmed.
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
You guys I'm sure know about marketing: If Matt and 5 of his friends move to Philly because of Love when it wasn't a thing, how many people do you think moved there when it was a thing? Are you going to argue that people didn't move to SF when EMB was a thing? Believe it or not, people move places because of the skate scene. Some are college students, some are young professionals. Some are even skateboarding professionals. They add to the bottom line certainly more than "...ice tea and hoagies at Wawa." Again, are you from Philly?"
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
You guys I'm sure know about marketing: If Matt and 5 of his friends move to Philly because of Love when it wasn't a thing, how many people do you think moved there when it was a thing? Are you going to argue that people didn't move to SF when EMB was a thing? Believe it or not, people move places because of the skate scene. Some are college students, some are young professionals. Some are even skateboarding professionals. They add to the bottom line certainly more than "...ice tea and hoagies at Wawa." Again, are you from Philly?"
Philly tap water brain
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dc doesn't have the money like they used to like when they offered a mil or something to save love, but muni has obviously been the heart of philly street skating in recent years, and (only guessing here) by extension a big contributor to dc's sales. you'd think they'd at the very least pay some respect to muni bring some awareness to it being torn down in a hard post on their IG or something. but nope, nothing.
They would have the money if they weren’t such assholes and re-released the Rick 1s.
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They would have the money if they weren’t such assholes and re-released the Rick 1s.
DC wants to, rick doesn't.
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
You guys I'm sure know about marketing: If Matt and 5 of his friends move to Philly because of Love when it wasn't a thing, how many people do you think moved there when it was a thing? Are you going to argue that people didn't move to SF when EMB was a thing? Believe it or not, people move places because of the skate scene. Some are college students, some are young professionals. Some are even skateboarding professionals. They add to the bottom line certainly more than "...ice tea and hoagies at Wawa." Again, are you from Philly?"
Wawa hoagies definitely caught my attention on one of my early visits but since I've been back I've found that they're ass compared to most local delis. Also what's this about ice tea give me some ice tea spots to check out next time I'm back
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Saw a bunch of Philly skaters making RIP Muni posts today as the final two remaining benches got removed. They definitely made the most out of Muni's last days.
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they should rip out paines next
fuck that downhill shitpark
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
You guys I'm sure know about marketing: If Matt and 5 of his friends move to Philly because of Love when it wasn't a thing, how many people do you think moved there when it was a thing? Are you going to argue that people didn't move to SF when EMB was a thing? Believe it or not, people move places because of the skate scene. Some are college students, some are young professionals. Some are even skateboarding professionals. They add to the bottom line certainly more than "...ice tea and hoagies at Wawa." Again, are you from Philly?"
Wawa hoagies definitely caught my attention on one of my early visits but since I've been back I've found that they're ass compared to most local delis. Also what's this about ice tea give me some ice tea spots to check out next time I'm back
You’re about 20 years late on this but I’d suggest the lemonade ice tea. Its def the best one and doesn’t taste like the chemically made raspberry/peach jizz that they put in the other ones. Stay away from the sandwiches tho. Too many great sandwich spots in town to bother with that. I do fuck with the pre packaged apple slices and a few other small things when I need a quick snack
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
DC will be fine. if they keep making phat shoes they will be fine. even if they dont do that theyll be okay bc dudes like wes and evan still ride for em. DC foreva
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Damn if muni goes then DC is dead within months of that cause one pretty sure they sell solely to people who skate that spot.
DC will be fine. if they keep making phat shoes they will be fine. even if they dont do that theyll be okay bc dudes like wes and evan still ride for em. DC foreva
Both dont?
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'til it's dirt.
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
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some strange takes in here.....the ice tea and hoagie you bought at wawa is not "tourism dollars"
much less "millions of tourist dollars"
Skaters coming to the city are crashing on friends' floors, not getting a room at the 4 Seasons (or even holiday inn)
How about the people that have gone to further their education there or moved there because of skateboarding? They count more to the city bottom line than "tourism dollars".
Sadly I think this is a much smaller group than you're imagining
Considering Matt Reason & five of his skate friends moved to Philly to go to college back when nobody even heard of Love Park and they had ads in Thrasher that said "Philadelphia" and a phone number for Tyler School of Art, Franklin Paine skatepark org guy moved Philly cuz of skateboarding. Suicu move there to go to Temple. I think you'd be surprised the amount of people. Are you from Philly?
So, 7 people over a span of 30 years?
You guys I'm sure know about marketing: If Matt and 5 of his friends move to Philly because of Love when it wasn't a thing, how many people do you think moved there when it was a thing? Are you going to argue that people didn't move to SF when EMB was a thing? Believe it or not, people move places because of the skate scene. Some are college students, some are young professionals. Some are even skateboarding professionals. They add to the bottom line certainly more than "...ice tea and hoagies at Wawa." Again, are you from Philly?"
Philly tap water brain
Ah, Huntington Beach. Makes sense. Run along.
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RSVP that spot.
RSVP DC shoes sales
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"Progress" here means the beautiful, unique architecture built from quality materials get bulldozed and turned into a generic plaza which, except for some shitty and overpriced art, looks indistinguishable from a mall food court, with clear sightlines for police surveillance and a few entrances and egresses which can be controlled by law enforcement or whichever scam charity has rented it from the city for their 5k fun run fundraiser.
Painfully accurate. Like yeah sure we still have LOVE park technically, they just took out anything that would make it interesting or cool looking.
I remember reading awhile back that they were gonna turn MUNI into like grass or a garden or something, just didn't want to believe it was actually true.
Yup both quotes perfectly sum up the situation. It was extremely sad when City Hall and LOVE were ruined, but now Muni too? Just makes me sick at this point. They're actively trying to push out a culture that had such a positive influence on the city in place of some shit nobody asked for.
Glad I got to skate these spots before they're gone but my last session at Muni was not a good one. Would hate to end on such a low note, but like many others here I probably won't be able to make it back to Philly in time
I’m shocked both spots lasted as long as they did with tuffguys like Oyola fighting people and running around screaming the n-word in the 90’s. It’s a terrible look for skateboarders especially considering how one bad apple can easily ruin an average non-skater’s perspective of what we do. Sadly, all positive influence can be washed away in a second after one shitty experience with someone. As skateboarders, I feel we’re in a constant state of rebuilding our reputation. Constantly resetting the “0 days since last shitty incident” clock. That’s the only thing the people in power care to see - our shittiness.
Skateboarders being at spots like city hall and love park kept homeless crackheads out simply because we were to loud. When they started cracking done on city hall homeless people set up camp and started deficating everywhere. Unfortunately sometimes people gotta play the bad guy roll and be outspoken enough to manipulate their surroundings.
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Who was the ex pro that wrote about cities using skateboarding as a means of gentrification? It makes me think about how Burnside kind of got a pass by the city due to the skateboarders somewhat policing the space, and keeping the more undesirable characters, from a normy perspective, out. It's the same thing with that new U.N. plaza in SF. Using skateboarders to kind of crowd control in an area because we're not unfamiliar with the streets and sketchy stuff. Because it's less likely someone will be smoking or sleeping on a ledge if someone is constantly trying to skate it.