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Title: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Trilogy on July 19, 2023, 03:07:52 AM
If not, what is the best way to clean bearings??
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: cucktard on July 19, 2023, 03:53:17 AM
The same way you would clean any nice set of anal beads.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: breezy_again on July 19, 2023, 05:50:31 AM
two spits of semen and you're good as gold
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: GardenSkater77 on July 19, 2023, 06:15:55 AM
The same way you would clean any nice set of anal beads.

I use Speed Cream on mine.

First soak in a water detergent mix.
Rinse.
Alcohol wash.
Air can dry.
1 drop of Speed Cream.
Spin.
Right back up the keister…
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: rawbertson. on July 19, 2023, 06:21:18 AM
From Bones Bearings Website:
https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/

Solvents we recommend are Acetone, Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Citrus cleaner, and Denatured alcohol. All of these can be found in the paint section of your local hardware store.

Products we DO NOT recommend are petroleum-based products like; paint thinner, gasoline, kerosene, lacquer thinner, turpentine or anything that contains tolulene. These solvents aren’t adequate cleaners and should not be used in the bearing cleaning unit.

Whatever you use, make sure to dry your bearings and add the lubrication to them as soon as possible to keep them from rusting.

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You dont need to buy that bearing cleaning unit, just shaking it around in any small container will have the same effect. could use an old pill bottle, tupperware, etc.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: rikki on July 19, 2023, 06:40:24 AM
DON'T use water. Acetone dries up pretty much instantly – there's no need for anything else in the cleaning part.

Remove shields.
Immerse bearings into acetone (use a metal or ceramic bowl) – make sure your space is ventilated, you don't wanna breathe in too much of the fumes.
Stir for a while (screwdriver, fork, anything metallic) – dirt will drip to the bottom.
Remove bearings from bowl, place on solid paper (no napkins etc. as it can leave residue) to dry.
Let dry.
Add 1 drop of Speed Cream or sewing machine oil per one whole bearing (yes, just one).
Spin bearing to even out the oil.
Replace shields.
Proceed with ripping.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: KidCarl on July 19, 2023, 11:39:44 AM
From Bones Bearings Website:
https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/

Solvents we recommend are Acetone, Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Citrus cleaner, and Denatured alcohol. All of these can be found in the paint section of your local hardware store.

Products we DO NOT recommend are petroleum-based products like; paint thinner, gasoline, kerosene, lacquer thinner, turpentine or anything that contains tolulene. These solvents aren’t adequate cleaners and should not be used in the bearing cleaning unit.

Whatever you use, make sure to dry your bearings and add the lubrication to them as soon as possible to keep them from rusting.

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You dont need to buy that bearing cleaning unit, just shaking it around in any small container will have the same effect. could use an old pill bottle, tupperware, etc.
The guy who used to own our local indoor park would tell everyone to use gas. It does do a good job though.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: SupremePizza on July 19, 2023, 11:43:07 AM
I used the quantum Graphlo lube when I cleaned my Atoms and they've been doing pretty well. Don't use motor oil, tried that on a set of reds and it seemed to make it worse
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Xen on July 19, 2023, 11:44:18 AM
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The same way you would clean any nice set of anal beads.
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First soak in a water detergent mix.


No.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: bumpnrun on July 19, 2023, 12:04:08 PM
I've been using paint thinner for the past while. Looks like it's not recommended by bones LOL

For acetone, it can be pretty harsh on a lot of things. For those that have used acetone for cleaning, does it dissolve bearing cages, which are usually some type of nylon/plastic?
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: GardenSkater77 on July 19, 2023, 12:40:30 PM
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The same way you would clean any nice set of anal beads.
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First soak in a water detergent mix.

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No.

What would be the concern? Unnecessary? I use simple green mixed with water and a toothbrush to loosen the grease. rinse and immediately soak in acetone. Should I just use acetone and could that damage the nylon cage if left in contact too long?
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on July 19, 2023, 12:48:18 PM
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The same way you would clean any nice set of anal beads.
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First soak in a water detergent mix.

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No.
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What would be the concern? Unnecessary? I use simple green mixed with water and a toothbrush to loosen the grease. rinse and immediately soak in acetone. Should I just use acetone and could that damage the nylon cage if left in contact too long?

People worry about rust.  As long as you dry em thoroughly, or do a follow up clean with alcohol or acetone its almost a complete non-issue.  I used to do citrus cleaner and a hot water rinse and thoroughly dry.  Never had a single issue.  I just use 99% alcohol now.  It's faster and I think it cleans just as well, plus its one step.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: sweet son of a bitch on July 19, 2023, 12:50:51 PM
Windex.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: logjammin on July 19, 2023, 01:12:30 PM
I've always used rubbing alcohol but the other day I used acetone and it worked extremely well, way better than the alcohol. I use a little Tupperware that's for salad dressing and shake it up. Dump out the liquid and repeat a couple more times til it stays clear even after shaking. Dries instantly and I didn't even relube them and they're running insanely fast, and we're talking cheap reds here.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: rikki on July 19, 2023, 01:19:05 PM

Should I just use acetone and could that damage the nylon cage if left in contact too long?

Acetone does the trick, yes, and no, the nylon cages don't seem to be affected. I've done the process several times for various sets of bearings and have noticed no ill effects.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: lulz on July 19, 2023, 01:38:54 PM
If not, what is the best way to clean bearings??

Bones cleaning unit.
Follow the directions.
Acetone, sometimes the dollar store has it.
Speed cream.

Made 3 home made versions that died. Sometimes catastrophically.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on July 19, 2023, 03:37:07 PM
Windex.

I put mine in a little plastic jar add windex and shake them up. 

I've been on the same set of Swiss Ceramics since 2009 on my main board set up. 
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Steely Daniel on July 19, 2023, 04:16:11 PM
I know they're unnecessary but I like stupid little gadgets so I went to the local shop to get the Bones cleaning kit but they only had the Bronson one. It's pretty poorly designed... It's split into two columns with pre spacer things at the bottom and they give you 4 spacers and speed washers to finish since the case runs out of room to just use a final spacer for the last bearing lol... Still works but it's pretty annoying and kind of too small and leaks like a fucking sieve.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: manysnakes on July 19, 2023, 04:27:52 PM
“Speed Cream” isn’t made from milk. You should definitely put a light coating of oil on your bearings.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Xen on July 19, 2023, 06:58:39 PM
I know they're unnecessary but I like stupid little gadgets so I went to the local shop to get the Bones cleaning kit but they only had the Bronson one. It's pretty poorly designed... It's split into two columns with pre spacer things at the bottom and they give you 4 spacers and speed washers to finish since the case runs out of room to just use a final spacer for the last bearing lol... Still works but it's pretty annoying and kind of too small and leaks like a fucking sieve.

That kit is fucking terribad...the fucking lid doesn't even click into place...

I made a few 'bones' kits, honestly it's easier to just pick that up on a sale (I nabbed it with the bones bearing puller).
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Trilogy on July 19, 2023, 08:52:25 PM
What about WD40??
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: GardenSkater77 on July 19, 2023, 09:14:48 PM
What about WD40??

Do you have to do this tonight?

WD40 is a mix of solvent and grease. It’s good for removing rust to unlock frozen nuts but it’s not ideal for bearings.

You have to remove (clean) the dirt and particles off the channel that the bearings roll over. That is what slows you down.

The speed cream or oil is just the last touch and you don’t want too much or it will attract gunk. One drop, spin and wipe the outside.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: j....soy..... on July 19, 2023, 10:14:38 PM
You can make one of those bearing cleaner things with a bolt and Gatorade bottle….

I never take out the cages anymore…..it’s a pain to line up all the bearings….

Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on July 19, 2023, 10:46:44 PM
Coconut oil and especially avocado oil have really high smoke points. This means you can go faster.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: rikki on July 20, 2023, 12:22:41 AM
What about WD40??

Bro, NO. WD40 is the worst, it attracts dirt like a magnet. Read what people have posted here and clean your stuff properly. There are no shortcuts.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on July 20, 2023, 01:10:07 AM
Winded in a sealed container shake um up a bit. Take them out dry em then a couple drops of sewing machine oil. Hasn’t failed me
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: rikki on July 20, 2023, 01:47:17 AM
I just realized OP might be just trolling.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Creachteach on July 20, 2023, 02:38:09 AM
I've been using paint thinner for the past while. Looks like it's not recommended by bones LOL

For acetone, it can be pretty harsh on a lot of things. For those that have used acetone for cleaning, does it dissolve bearing cages, which are usually some type of nylon/plastic?

I had a set of spitfire cheapshots. That have been left for a week in acetone, and I’m pretty sure their cages have warped. They don’t spin by hand, but if you roll in the board it’s okayish.

Gone over to 93% alcohol.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 20, 2023, 09:13:33 AM
I fully disassemble my bearings. Drop the parts into a plastic cup.
Acetone bath.
Tooth brush the plastic parts in soapy water.
Thats the important part.
Plastic cages are what collects filth that slows you down.

I reassemble them (wo shields now I'm over them)


If you don't live in a rainy area don't lube. Run um dry. It's faster.

If you do choose to lube use sewing machine oil. It's cheap and works good.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: j....soy..... on July 20, 2023, 10:07:57 AM
one time I pulled all the plastic cages, put the bearings loose in a jar with paint thinner....shook it up.....everything fell apart.  The inner races all popped out and it was a jar full of loose bearings....  My impression is the cages to some degree keep them in line as well as....it was a dumb move to shake it up vigorously.  But yeah....lost a set of swiss doing that.... I agree with you though that dirt does get stuck there, it's just to what degree I'm willing to spend time on it and it's sort of finicky, I've damaged the cages pulling them out and putting them back in.

Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Abyss1 on July 20, 2023, 10:20:20 AM
What about WD40??

you can't be serious?  If you are...try it on a spare bearing and report back.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: lulz on July 20, 2023, 10:32:21 AM
What about WD40??

Could  you give us more details, please?
Have you been just replacing bearing when they slow down? Like new set of reds once a month?
Do you have time or budget criteria? Like you need to skate tonight, live nowhere near a shop, and only have access to the supplies in the laundry room cabinet?🙂 :)
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: KidCarl on July 20, 2023, 11:34:18 AM
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What about WD40??
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Could  you give us more details, please?
Have you been just replacing bearing when they slow down? Like new set of reds once a month?
Do you have time or budget criteria? Like you need to skate tonight, live nowhere near a shop, and only have access to the supplies in the laundry room cabinet?🙂 :)
WD40 was my shit when I was twelve. The bearings would get sludgy and slow down, so I would just spray em down again. Until I was informed that the WD40 was causing the problems to begin with. Especially if you run shieldless, your bearings are just filled with dirt and oil.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: lulz on July 20, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
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What about WD40??
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Could  you give us more details, please?
Have you been just replacing bearing when they slow down? Like new set of reds once a month?
Do you have time or budget criteria? Like you need to skate tonight, live nowhere near a shop, and only have access to the supplies in the laundry room cabinet?🙂 :)
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WD40 was my shit when I was twelve. The bearings would get sludgy and slow down, so I would just spray em down again. Until I was informed that the WD40 was causing the problems to begin with. Especially if you run shieldless, your bearings are just filled with dirt and oil.

Grosso said “Run what you brung.”
We’ve all done it. Ruined one of wife’s nice leftover containers, not resistant to acetone. Went through a Molotov cocktail phase, wide mouthed glass trilogy, kombucha bottle and gasoline, you can guess how that worked out. Lubed with motor oil- runs everywhere, 3 in 1 oil-runs out less, the worst was dry lube, Teflon based, it had the fastest hand spin ever, and was the slowest in use.

If you have a $10 budget get bones speed cream.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Bones_Speed_Cream_/descpage-BSSCLU.html(https://i.ibb.co/BT2dZNV/IMG-1025.png) (https://ibb.co/BT2dZNV)(https://i.ibb.co/BT2dZNV/IMG-1025.png) (https://ibb.co/BT2dZNV)
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: lulz on July 20, 2023, 02:06:10 PM
$30 budget= plus bones bearing cleaner
https://tgmskateboards.com/bones-bearings-cleaning-kit/
(https://i.ibb.co/KXnQwMT/IMG-1026.png) (https://ibb.co/KXnQwMT)
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: lulz on July 20, 2023, 02:23:32 PM
$100 budget=plus bearing press.
The Bont one is better, because you can do thunder juice wheels!. The other ones are too small.
https://bont.com/products/125mm-inline-skate-bearing-press
(https://i.ibb.co/RBwnWt6/IMG-1027.png) (https://ibb.co/RBwnWt6)
This comes first because now you have something to offer, you can help people get their bearing running agin.

$200 budget= plus bones Swiss six
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Bones_Super_Swiss_6_Ball_Bearings/descpage-BSSS6BR.html?from=gshop&gclid=CjwKCAjwtuOlBhBREiwA7agf1itsYQ9C1f7lSgEWm8U__510SBIaRzGWKclIOzbKuLrywyTxqtyL0BoCPigQAvD_BwE
(https://i.ibb.co/pyrKhCn/IMG-1028.png) (https://ibb.co/pyrKhCn)
This is just for you, now you’re fast.🙂

YMMV. This is just my experience and I wish someone had explained it to me….
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: 10staircoffin on July 20, 2023, 06:32:07 PM
Probably just reiterating everything said in any post that's been correct so far, but here's my frugal solution as taught by my Dad in the 90s.

1. Shields off, clean in a jar using methylated spirits or something similar - alcohol that dries quick and doesn't leave a film. Use this, not the Bones Bearing Cleaner to save $$. Metho is a common cleaner, you might already have some. Maybe you drink it with orange juice, I'm not here to judge.

2. Oil with Singer Sewing Machine oil. A couple of drops per bearing is all you need. Sewing Machine Oil is what Speed Cream is, except you can get a lifetime supply for the same price. I've had the same 100ml bottle for the last 10 years.

3. That's it. Do this once or twice a year.

Don't use grease or any kind of graphite lubricant - this shit traps filth inside and fucks up your ride. No need to use WD40 but no harm in giving them a squirt to maybe reduce water penetration.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: thehogsniper on July 20, 2023, 06:44:39 PM
using dawn dish soap, olive oil, and salt tends to yield the best results in cleaning.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Mick on July 20, 2023, 08:43:16 PM
Container with lid, dollar store citrus cleaner, toothbrush, Bones speed cream. Put bearings in container, fill citrus cleaner past the bearings in the container. Shake in circle motions so the bearings kinda spin around the container in the cleaner, drain. (If you shake up and down I feel like you risk damaging cages, hence why the bones kit keeps the bearings stationary) Toothbrush the debris from shaking then repeat the fill, shake, drain. Spin bearings with hands to get excess cleaner out then set them on a paper towel to dry out and/or pat dry out. Once dry, 2 drops bones speed cream. Done. Made cheap bearings last years this way.
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 21, 2023, 08:43:42 AM
one time I pulled all the plastic cages, put the bearings loose in a jar with paint thinner....shook it up.....everything fell apart.  The inner races all popped out and it was a jar full of loose bearings....  My impression is the cages to some degree keep them in line as well as....it was a dumb move to shake it up vigorously.  But yeah....lost a set of swiss doing that.... I agree with you though that dirt does get stuck there, it's just to what degree I'm willing to spend time on it and it's sort of finicky, I've damaged the cages pulling them out and putting them back in.

Swiss cages have tighter tolerances than the regular reds. Way harder to pop off and on.

I can't afford new (ceramics) bearings so I hold on to parts.
If you still got those cages you should pop them into cheeper reds and they will last longer
Title: Re: Is it a good idea to put oil on bearings??
Post by: GBLange on July 21, 2023, 09:29:26 AM
If not, what is the best way to clean bearings??

u want to clean em or lube em?