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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: Beautifull on November 02, 2007, 01:07:37 PM
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Asking black people and white people.
If you are Black, do you let your white friends use it around you? If you are white, do you say it around your white friends but not around your black friends?
My personal politics is that I don't feel it's acceptable to say personally (speaking for myself). You will never hear that word come out of my mouth. I think that it;'s ok for black people, but I hear white people say that if blacks can say it then they should be able to. How many non-black people on Slap use this word, and why do you do it?
p.s. Totally serious topic. Not trying to turn this into a hate battle or anything, just was wondering if this could be talked about in a mature fashion. If not, I don't mind if the topic gets deleted. I don't invite that kinda hate.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
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Im about to use the 'F' word on you...
Faggot.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
the only one that has stepped to the plate so far and proved it at least.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
i dont see why anybody in would be black and try to pretend they werent. what kind of covert shit is that
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Im about to use the 'F' word on you...
Faggot.
don't hate, motivate
our feud is over. Peace brother.....
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I'm a white dude. I don't say it.
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I do however say "cracker", quite a bit.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
i dont see why anybody in would be black and try to pretend they werent. what kind of covert shit is that
Hmmm.... well, you know that this board is anonymous right? There was definitely a kid that was claiming to be clyde singleton who was not anything close to a darker completion.
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the only time race should come up on here is when everyone decides which porn they would like to rub one off to at that time. i was feeling asian today
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'N'inja bearings.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
i dont see why anybody in would be black and try to pretend they werent. what kind of covert shit is that
seriously dude your such a moron.
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'N'inja bearings.
Didn't I 'son' your ass?
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Didn't I 'son' your ass?
hahahahahaahahahaha ok dad.
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first of all, we need to differentiate here. I heard a comedian once say that pronouncing the ER will put you in the ER. I feel the same way. i would never say the word nigger casually.
as far as the word nigga is concerned, i used to say it whenever id be drinkin or whatever, it kinda comes out naturally when you listen to wayy too much nas. but i dont really say it anymore. I feel too self-consious when i do it, like when you're about to cuss around your parents. i use substitutes like fella or pimpin or plurrr. some people say brutha but i dont. i'll say bruh but not brutha. i do sometimes refer to black men as brothas though, or black women as sistas.
bottom line is, i get annoyed when i hear white boys say it, so i dont say it.
for q-tip's opinion listen to sucka nigga from midnight marauders
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first of all, we need to differentiate here. I heard a comedian once say that pronouncing the ER will put you in the ER. I feel the same way. i would never say the word nigger casually.
as far as the word nigga is concerned, i used to say it whenever id be drinkin or whatever, it kinda comes out naturally when you listen to wayy too much nas. but i dont really say it anymore. I feel too self-consious when i do it, like when you're about to cuss around your parents. i use substitutes like fella or pimpin or plurrr. some people say brutha but i dont. i'll say bruh but not brutha. i do sometimes refer to black men as brothas though, or black women as sistas.
bottom line is, i get annoyed when i hear white boys say it, so i dont say it.
for q-tip's opinion listen to sucka nigga from midnight marauders
"the sucka niggas, nigga nigga" gnar'd
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http://www.illbotz.net/files/Illbotz_-_Can_t_Use_The_N_Word.mp3
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I don't use it because there's no reason to and I would feel like a big douche.
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as long as you end it with an 'a' and not an 'er', i probably won't throw a punch at you.
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what about when you are neither black nor white? this goes for the yellows and the browns :D
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jeezy is the only black person in here
I'm black on the inside.
I see it like this, racial slurs are like talking about family. I'll talk shit on my family with love but it wouldn't be a smart thing for you to do, especially if I'm within earshot.
And likewise, no non-black person should ever use the N word. I've never heard it come out of a non-black mouth and sound OK. And when it does I think it's just natural consequences for people to get beat.
Same goes with "cracker/white trash/gringo/wedo," whatever. I'll joke about my folk but it stings coming from other races.
Whatever, that's how it goes in my mind. But there's a power dynamic there as well. People in a position of power shouldn't be talking shit on people who aren't. So I think it's worse for white folk to call other minorities racial slurs, 'cause in general at the end of the day the white folk still have it easier.
Just sayin'.
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I'm no rascist but don't mind calling it like I see it. For many years I've noticed saying the word honkey or hick isn't really such a bad thing, or people don't really get bent out of shape by it but when the word nigger is brought up it's a sure sign of rascism. Well wouldn't calling someone a honkey make you a rascist too? Seems weird. Don't want to stereotype but it's hard to not think that some handle the insults better than others. Same thing with comedians. Alot of black comedians crack white jokes but I never really hear white comedians crack black jokes. I know it's a touchy subject but maybe black people need to let it roll of their shoulders. I guess you guys can start throwing the tomatoes at me now.
look sanch, how bout a blow job for a magik tee?
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That's the power dynamic I was talking about. We've got over 300 yrs of fucked up history where minorities have gotten the short end of the stick. And still shit's not a level playing field. Look at home ownership, education, prison rates, job pay... Fair or not all that shit's a factor any time a white dude opens his mouth about minorities.
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That's the power dynamic I was talking about. We've got over 300 yrs of fucked up history where minorities have gotten the short end of the stick. And still shit's not a level playing field. Look at home ownership, education, prison rates, job pay... Fair or not all that shit's a factor any time a white dude opens his mouth about minorities.
that's so true and can't be overlooked.
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I use it, but only when I'm with people who know I'm not serious about it...
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That's the power dynamic I was talking about. We've got over 300 yrs of fucked up history where minorities have gotten the short end of the stick. And still shit's not a level playing field. Look at home ownership, education, prison rates, job pay... Fair or not all that shit's a factor any time a white dude opens his mouth about minorities.
Who ever said life was fair?
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Not me. I'm sayin' it's not fair.
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it pisses me off when people use it at all. black people, white people, the works. the worst is suburban white canadian kids saying it. i have come so close to punching underaged kids at the park for yelling nigger and nigga at eachother all the fucking time. im pissed off again.
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I can't say I'm against it with "a" at the end, cause I'm guilty of listening to explicit rap.
Except for when white dudes say it.
Please do shut up.
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it pisses me off when people use it at all. black people, white people, the works. the worst is suburban white canadian kids saying it. i have come so close to punching underaged kids at the park for yelling nigger and nigga at eachother all the fucking time. im pissed off again.
No doubt. I agree, right and wrong aside, it sounds rediculous coming out of the mouths of whites. Except for in the original Scared Straight. I think of couple of those white Jersy sounding death row inmates say it to the white kids who go in there and cry. Now that shit's funny.
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It's a word. Once I kept saying it around my friend Erinn who is black and he started getting mad and punched me in the jaw. Then he realized it's just a fucking word an apologized to me. I mean, if you all continue to be offended by words, then you're just empowering everyone who tries to use them in an offensive way.
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It's a word. Once I kept saying it around my friend Erinn who is black and he started getting mad and punched me in the jaw. Then he realized it's just a fucking word an apologized to me. I mean, if you all continue to be offended by words, then you're just empowering everyone who tries to use them in an offensive way.
I agree with this, although I personally don't use the word in any of its forms. It does bother me when I here people say nigger or nigga when it is emphasized, but when anyone says nigga casually and comfortably it doesn't really bother me. Like I said, I'm not going to say it in any other way then just relaying when it was said due to importance in a conversation or something, but it doesn't bother me if it isn't satirical of a person or negative when someone else says it.
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When I'm brunching at the county club, I prefer the term "black Alabama porch monkey" or, when I'm particularly excited, "jigaboo". That's simply how it's done in polite society.
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Dirk Wiggler wins.
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It's a word. Once I kept saying it around my friend Erinn who is black and he started getting mad and punched me in the jaw. Then he realized it's just a fucking word an apologized to me. I mean, if you all continue to be offended by words, then you're just empowering everyone who tries to use them in an offensive way.
I like thick skinned/easy going people too but don't be naive. Language is powerful. And recognizing that empowers people to choose words wisely.
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jeezy is the only black person in here
WRONG NIGGA
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It's a word. Once I kept saying it around my friend Erinn who is black and he started getting mad and punched me in the jaw. Then he realized it's just a fucking word an apologized to me. I mean, if you all continue to be offended by words, then you're just empowering everyone who tries to use them in an offensive way.
nah, fuck that. tryin to tell black people not to be offended by that word? if your ancestors went through all that you might be whistlin a different tune. i know your argument is about words, but you can't change language. for 200 years that word was synonomous with the popular belief that black people are subhuman. a white dude continually saying "nigga" around someone who is black is asking to get your jaw cracked. i would've done the same thing except without the apology. if thats how you feel about words then great, but don't use your friends as an experiment to see if you can do away with the connotation of offensive words. you aint webster homie you cant change the definition of a word
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It's a word. Once I kept saying it around my friend Erinn who is black and he started getting mad and punched me in the jaw. Then he realized it's just a fucking word an apologized to me. I mean, if you all continue to be offended by words, then you're just empowering everyone who tries to use them in an offensive way.
boo fuckin hoo. if you use any version of a word originally meaning black object around people who are constantly being harassed because of who they are, you should expect to get hurt, and i dont want to hear anyone bitching about "double standards"...
if you arent black, and you havent been through what black people have to go through, then dont use the word.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQDSk43tlFQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQDSk43tlFQ)
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I cringe a bit when I hear "nigger" coming out of the mouths of people I might be around (and being in the south, I have to say I hear it less often than you might think)... I usually drop an "awww man, c'mon..." or just change the subject depending on circumstances. I don't try to preach my personal non-racist philosophy to anyone, as there's not much I can say to undo the years of stupidity that have filled most racist's heads.
As far as dudes walking around saying "nigga," it just sounds really childish. J-train mentioned Q-Tip's song sucka nigga, and in that respect I can see it as the word being used by certain communities in an effort to take the venom out (like gay people jokingly referring to each other as fags), but my immediate thought is that the user of the word is socially immature.
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It's just a word. I don't get offended when black people say "cracker" or "cracka" I could care less. If you get offended over a word somethings wrong with you. The big bad """N""" word is so cliche.
btw not quoting anyone.
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To me it's just another insulting word. I feel you give the word power by letting it bother you instead of just knowing the person saying it is obviously an idiot and not worth your time or anger. It's become such a controversial thing and taken so seriously it almost seems like a joke. I personally would never call a black person a nigger or any other racist names.But there are much bigger problems for minorities then some word ignorant white folks seem to fancy. I think too much energy is being waisted on something that has been blown out of preportion and really does nothing but offend and hurt peoples feelings. A word is just a word until you let it become something else.
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Why are you assuming I'm white?
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Dude, your an idiot.
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On the subject of racism, how awesome is the phrase "I'm not racist, but..."? That's always a cue that the person is about to say something hilariously ignorant, and won't think twice about it because, as their disclaimer has already stated, they're not a racist, so no matter what stupid shit comes out of their mouth, it's totally cool.
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Dude, your an idiot.
"your" refers to possesion. you might be thinking of the contraction "you're" which is a combination of you and are. if i'm an idiot how come i know that and you don't?
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Most likely originates with the Latin word "niger" which translates to "black". Similar words for "black" exist in other languages (Spanish, for example, is "negro"). Also somewhat relates to the African country Nigeria, which is primarily black. Many variations exist, including "Nig", "Nigel", "Niggy", "Niggly", etc.
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Why are you assuming I'm white?
my mistake the first half of my response was for the other dude and the second half was for you. but now that you mention it, i'd put money on the color of your skin being white. why? cause i dont know any black people that have that attitude. no black person i know has ever been like "pshaw, its just a word not a big deal."
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yall niggas need to relax. nigger is very offensive to me. everything i saw as a child, KKK, nazis, etc. made me extremely pissed off, and anything associated with racism just seemed wrong and unneeded. FUCK RACISM. straight up. all people are the same, thats fuckin true to me. on another note i really dont give a damn what color a bitch is as long as she got a pussy and a fatty. amen
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Why are you assuming I'm white?
my mistake the first half of my response was for the other dude and the second half was for you. but now that you mention it, i'd put money on the color of your skin being white. why? cause i dont know any black people that have that attitude. no black person i know has ever been like "pshaw, its just a word not a big deal."
I know black people that have that attitude actually. And I'm a mut, white, mexican and native american.
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also, i vaguely remembered seeing this in the post you skating thread. if that pictures as old as it looks, id say you were ahead of your time rocking those nut huggers.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/timsanders/blunt.jpg)
but that attitude we're talking about, to dismiss racism, is one thing. to not let it get under your skin, thats a good thing. to recognize that someone is using it just to fuck with you and spite them by ignoring them, thats good. but its something else to try and ignore the connotation of the word as someone who has not felt the stinging sensation of it in your eardrum.
because you and I don't know what its like to walk in their shoes. i know theres some things for me that, try as i might, i cant control how i will feel about them. I would guess its the same way with that word, when a black person hears it, they might just brush it off and act unfazed, but deep down inside they might be reminded of the brutal and humiliating injustice that was done to their ancestors. I don't know. I couldn't say. but im a very visual person and when i hear a word i see the word. you can break a word down to its latin origins, but what the word has come to mean and how it has been used over the past couple of centuries makes the word what it really is - offensive and inexcusable.
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Anyone see Kids in the Cinema? What was it like listening to Casper and Telly with black people in the crowd? Not a joke its just they used to word often. Its not good to say,people say it as a word for the friends I have on rare occasions just to my friend not out loud in the middle of harlem or something but its better to say homie if your a white ass fool.
Ive been questioning racism in my mind and to some of my friends,I dont personally understand it its just such a stupid thing,black people are some of the raddest people on earth,they do a lot of good things,so do white people,so do indian people,so do japenese people etc everyones just got there own thing and everyones different.People should learn that by the time there 2. Colors are great and culteres are great.
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Dude, your an idiot.
"your" refers to possession*. you might be thinking of the contraction "you're" which is a combination of you and are. if i'm an idiot how come i know that and you don't?
Probably because I wasn't talking about grammar?? oh and it's "Possession". I fixed it for you tho.
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The grammar police? That's fucking stupid.
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Words have powerful meaning and some like this one have negative meanings that no one should subjected to.
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http://www.rsdb.net/ (http://www.rsdb.net/)
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you dont get offended by being called a cracka? guess what? no one gets offended by the word cracka. the n word is different from every other racial slur because of the fact that America tried to dehumanize black people, and thats the word that was used to exploit, insult, and do every other kind of evil upon them. saying its not a big deal its just a word is bullshit. no one "let it become something else" it is and will continue to be a word synonomous with hatred.
Dude, your an idiot.
"your" refers to possession*. you might be thinking of the contraction "you're" which is a combination of you and are. if i'm an idiot how come i know that and you don't?
Probably because I wasn't talking about grammar?? oh and it's "Possession". I fixed it for you tho.
hmmm.... why did he edit his post....hmmmmmm... i'm no sleuth but something tells me dictionary.com played a pivotal role in the correction
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I know this doesn't have anything to do the argument, but does anybody know what that rap song is called when they start off in dainty fancy white-people voices and say things like "ooh let me give it a try!" and then its supposed to be like they're rapping but its somebody else rapping......I think it was from quite a while ago.......I always thought that was pretty funy
I have been known to drop it with the A on the end when fooling around or whatever, but its hard to help it when its in a lot of the music I listen to, even if i don't listen to it on purpouse, its hard to escape hearing that word over and over again in rap music all the time and when you are messing around talking like somebody who likes rap music, you sort of end up saying it.....im not particularly proud of saying it or anything, but sometimes I will slip up.....
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On the subject of racism, how awesome is the phrase "I'm not racist, but..."? That's always a cue that the person is about to say something hilariously ignorant, and won't think twice about it because, as their disclaimer has already stated, they're not a racist, so no matter what stupid shit comes out of their mouth, it's totally cool.
fact.
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so true. a guy at the skatepark said "i'm not racist but niggers talk too much shit man."