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Title: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on April 03, 2009, 09:04:33 PM
I can't even do them short flat bars, I am to scared. I have good backside 180s, back tails, and front boards but lip is scary.

Any tips?

What was the first thing you did them on?
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Tom Servo on April 04, 2009, 04:07:19 PM
Yea they can be kind rough. Just be good enough on flatbars so you can take a fall without getting hurt because you're gonna fall on back lips when you learn them. Also, try just doing them at the very end of the rail at first. practice locking into them on curbs if you're still worried.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on April 05, 2009, 02:10:52 AM
Well, I set up about a 6 inch tall piece of steel that is about 4 feet long and covered it in WD40. I figured out if I try a back smith (can't do them either) I end up in lip position. The only problem is I heard some board crunching going on. If I do front lips on a flat rail to low I always break my board.

I guess when I go to a park and have access to a real flat rail that is taller I will just try a back smith and hopefully do a lipslide.

Do you guys think about it like a backside 50-50 and then just turn it at the last second? or do you pop it straight over?
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on April 05, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
back lips are back lips. Just make yourself do it. Go fast so that if you fuck up and slam you'll just land on the ground, not the bar
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: rocklobster on April 05, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
watching mindfield religiously for a week helped me..... watch arto and kircharts part and you'll notice that they do them by first ollieing up then rotating that back foot/torso into the rail....

hand and looking-back steeze is critical too....

ah fuck, i did them once after trying them for 3 weeks, im just happy i can say i did that trick once in my life....
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Commercial D on April 05, 2009, 11:47:45 PM
Learn 'em on ledges first.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: H8R part 4 on April 06, 2009, 08:16:46 AM
beer! 
works every time. 


Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Murdock on April 06, 2009, 12:44:39 PM
Learn 'em on ledges first.
I first learn to stall them on a flat curb approaching really slow and not sliding then tried it on a flat bar and a couple tries later i locked it kind of. Long time ago i did one.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on April 06, 2009, 11:39:06 PM
it just started snowing here so i haven't had a chance. maybe I will try the beer method.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on April 11, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
ok well I finally started landing on the rail, but I ended up breaking my board.

How do you not break boards doing front/back lips on flat bars?
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: angryfacedman on April 12, 2009, 06:31:47 AM
ok well I finally started landing on the rail, but I ended up breaking my board.

How do you not break boards doing front/back lips on flat bars?
smoke meth!
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Corby Tender on April 12, 2009, 08:26:57 AM
^What he said.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Canuck on April 14, 2009, 09:51:30 AM
Learning them on a mini-ramp helped me a lot too.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: H8R part 4 on April 14, 2009, 10:10:31 AM
ok well I finally started landing on the rail, but I ended up breaking my board.

How do you not break boards doing front/back lips on flat bars?

learn them on curbs or ledges.   
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: CaptainMorganFreeman on April 23, 2009, 03:57:16 AM
ok well I finally started landing on the rail, but I ended up breaking my board.

How do you not break boards doing front/back lips on flat bars?


go faster dont try to slam your board down so hard
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Mr_Snickers on April 23, 2009, 08:07:32 AM
beer! 
works every time. 



Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Back to 0 on April 27, 2009, 04:53:54 AM
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beer! 
works every time. 



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if not drink some more, untill it works.

cant do em either, just nollie back lip
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on April 27, 2009, 08:05:49 PM
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beer! 
works every time. 



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if not drink some more, untill it works.

cant do em either, just nollie back lip

anybody ever tried a fakie front board? on decent sized rails they are the scariest thing ever, I just kinda have to guess when to pop because I can't see where the rail is
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: VeganShawn on April 30, 2009, 07:48:31 PM
go faster you fat fuck
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on May 01, 2009, 04:22:03 AM
go faster you fat fuck

I'm 150 pounds.

You think going faster will stop the board breakage?
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Mr_Snickers on May 01, 2009, 05:18:51 AM
learn them on small hubbas before handrails it's a lot less intimidating and easier to learn them(that was the case for me). in the end, it may cost you your wheels, but if you fuck up, it'll save your nuts.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on May 01, 2009, 05:27:18 AM
learn them on small hubbas before handrails it's a lot less intimidating and easier to learn them(that was the case for me). in the end, it may cost you your wheels, but if you fuck up, it'll save your nuts.

yeah i can't even do boardslides on ledges, i don't understand that shit. they are easy on quarterpipes but i just stick on ledges
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: dyingtoliveRWTF on May 08, 2009, 04:42:33 AM
start off getting used to them by doing it nollie first
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: VeganShawn on May 08, 2009, 09:20:55 PM
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go faster you fat fuck
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I'm 150 pounds.

You think going faster will stop the board breakage?

yes you fucking moron
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: biggums mcgee on May 09, 2009, 08:18:28 AM
I think learning them fakie (fakie ollie to backlip) helps build your confidence, seeing as how you're riding up to the bar/ledge frontside.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 09, 2009, 10:42:34 PM
barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: VeganShawn on May 10, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face

this is extremely counter productive advice.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 10, 2009, 03:53:57 PM
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barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face
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this is extremely counter productive advice.



thats how i learned them i just pushed a little faster and leaned a little farther back and it didnt freak me out as much  besides you barely need wax on a flatbar unless its brand new or rusty
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: dyingtoliveRWTF on May 10, 2009, 04:05:40 PM
barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face
then youll stick and fall back and slam ur head
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: VeganShawn on May 10, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
waxing flatbars is not cool. go faster pussy.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: nkarasch on May 11, 2009, 11:09:14 AM
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barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face
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this is extremely counter productive advice.

yeah if they arent rusty you don't need any wax whatsoever. i guess i do need to speed it up. luckily, I blew my knee up again. I don't think its the ACL this time because it seems to be getting better on its own
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: VeganShawn on May 11, 2009, 12:09:55 PM
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barely wax the rail or not at all so your not scarred about smacking your face
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this is extremely counter productive advice.
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yeah if they arent rusty you don't need any wax whatsoever. i guess i do need to speed it up. luckily, I blew my knee up again. I don't think its the ACL this time because it seems to be getting better on its own

you don't need to wax rusty bars either. just scrape it with a pop can.
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: scary tan guy on May 13, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
No point trying them if you dont have a good backside ollie. The whole key to making them easy is to be able to get a solid ollie off the ground, then when you're leve or above the rail you bring the back foot backside. Everything comes 100 times easier when you can control the board in the air
Title: Re: How do you work up the courage to learn back lips?
Post by: dyingtoliveRWTF on May 13, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
got a new tip cuz i was trying them earlier. alright, start out by trying to ride up at a harsh angle and going kinda slow, i find it easier to kind of whip the back of the board around. Also try to ollie really high and have the bar set on the lowest setting.  And finally, try to do almost a late back 180 to get into it and try pointing the nose towards the ground while your bodyweight is centered on the rail or even over the other side.  Try coming out to fakie before regs and slide the last foot or so of the rail.