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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: ek27 on October 22, 2009, 12:50:30 PM
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I just saw this animated sequence at http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/pig-wheels-introduces-jamie-tancowny/
It looks to me like it was blatently pieced... if you look theres a guy in the background, and the next frame he's totally gone... I know this happens in mags everyday, but I seriously don't know how they didn't realize how obvious it is...
I could be wrong...
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
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its really not that hard... they take a few frames of him rolling away, from say a backside 180, and put them at the end of a non-made trick... It happens more often than you think...
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i remember aaron snyder getting busted for this back in the day and then getting all pissy about it in an interview.
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they definitly pieced the sequence, im sure he still did it though.
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who the fuck is jamie tancowny anyway?
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that made sense in the film days but why the fuck would they do it now that everyone shoots digi, unless the photographer just fucked something up. idk thats weird
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Seems fake, but maybe that guy in the background knows how to transport himself to other places in like 0,00034 secs. Thats the most logic
explanation.
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Sometimes distracting objects in the background that are of no relevance are taken out. Seems like they just missed a frame of taking that dude out. Rookie move for sure but I guarantee it's no fake.
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Sometimes distracting objects in the background that are of no relevance are taken out. Seems like they just missed a frame of taking that dude out. Rookie move for sure but I guarantee it's no fake.
exactly, if you notice where he lands is where the guy, also wearing all black, is standing, it would've just been a huge dark blur if they left that guy standing there, they took him out
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i used to piece them together sometimes when i wanted to add an extra frame but these guys have fast cameras and it's a bit suspect that it's right before the landing. maybe went with the cleaner landing from the bs 180 warm up.
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one of two things:
1) could have landed it and on the land frame the dude was right behind him making it look fucked up
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2) landed it sketchy, shot a sequence of a back 180 and pieced it together
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Sometimes distracting objects in the background that are of no relevance are taken out. Seems like they just missed a frame of taking that dude out. Rookie move for sure but I guarantee it's no fake.
makes sense
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either way he probably landed it. Very rarely do companies run shit when dudes don't land it. And I say rarely cause....it does happen. :-\
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anyone consider him being magic?
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either way he probably landed it. Very rarely do companies run shit when dudes don't land it. And I say rarely cause....it does happen. :-\
if you knew the amount of sequences, ads, and even cover that aren't makes you would shit... Classic example, Slap Jose Rojo Backtail Stanford, came out years ago on the cover, and he finally just landed it... and I heard that the only reason he went back and did it is because Enjoi wouldn't turn him pro until he did....
The mags really don't care if its a make or not. It happens all the time...
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dude in the background fell down a deep hole. that is by far the most reasonable explanation.
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dude in the background fell down a deep hole. that is by far the most reasonable explanation.
exactly what i was thinking...
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either way he probably landed it. Very rarely do companies run shit when dudes don't land it. And I say rarely cause....it does happen. :-\
if you knew the amount of sequences, ads, and even cover that aren't makes you would shit... Classic example, Slap Jose Rojo Backtail Stanford, came out years ago on the cover, and he finally just landed it... and I heard that the only reason he went back and did it is because Enjoi wouldn't turn him pro until he did....
The mags really don't care if its a make or not. It happens all the time...
For real. I remember there was a Logic video where it had a bonus footy of Van Wastell skating a double set and it was just a kickflip down on set and back 180.....and that took hell of tires. That is why I respect a lot of skate video when I see them. I cna only imagine how long it took Bob Burnquist to do all that megaramp footy. To go up and do switch stuff over and over again.
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Did he cut his hair finally? I sometimes got him confused with Ellisa.
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I'm guessing a sloppy photoshop job over piecing together two different attempts (or possibly even different tricks). If you notice the mini soccer goal doesn't disappear or move, just the guy, who like others have pointed out, is standing in the exact same line of sight as Jamie's landing. I'm thinking the photographer just forgot (or was to lazy) to remove the random dude from the entire sequence.
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I'm guessing a sloppy photoshop job over piecing together two different attempts (or possibly even different tricks). If you notice the mini soccer goal doesn't disappear or move, just the guy, who like others have pointed out, is standing in the exact same line of sight as Jamie's landing. I'm thinking the photographer just forgot (or was to lazy) to remove the random dude from the entire sequence.
I think it's 2 sequences spliced together. If it was just a photoshop mistake of the dude in the background, the sequence would of at least still looked smooth. It's choppy right when the guy disappears.
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Seems like choppy footage, you would think they would do a better job.
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Sometimes distracting objects in the background that are of no relevance are taken out. Seems like they just missed a frame of taking that dude out. Rookie move for sure but I guarantee it's no fake.
wouldn't they have taken the goal out too then????
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I just noticed MFS has this sequence as his profile pic. But there is no guy at all in his sequence. STRAAAAANGE.
But yeah...from what I know about Jamie...I'm pretty sure he would've landed this whether the photographer switched up the sequences or not.
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rip the background
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
I don't think so. If the angle changed then the hockey net he was standing in front of would be gone. And I don't know if I would call that backside flip "just a backside flip." Its a pretty gnarly one at a famous spot.
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I'm friends with some photographers and I have seen lots of photos ran that were not actually landed. Usually photo's on really famous spots have to get landed cause people will be asking for some video proof after. Also knowing Jamie , Im sure this is landed.
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I'm friends with some photographers and I have seen lots of photos ran that were not actually landed. Usually photo's on really famous spots have to get landed cause people will be asking for some video proof after. Also knowing Jamie , Im sure this is landed.
Oh yeah...it definitely happens. But generally with single shots...not so much sequences. I'm guessing this is more like that Guy Mariano cover way back. He landed the trick...the photgrapher just switched up some frames to make it "look better."
But even when the trick isn't landed...it generally says alot more about the photographer than the actual skateboarder.
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But even when the trick isn't landed...it generally says alot more about the photographer than the actual skateboarder.
Everybody read this, Okay?
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from what i understand mixing and matching in sequences is o.k. by skatemag standards....
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either way he probably landed it. Very rarely do companies run shit when dudes don't land it. And I say rarely cause....it does happen. :-\
if you knew the amount of sequences, ads, and even cover that aren't makes you would shit... Classic example, Slap Jose Rojo Backtail Stanford, came out years ago on the cover, and he finally just landed it... and I heard that the only reason he went back and did it is because Enjoi wouldn't turn him pro until he did....
The mags really don't care if its a make or not. It happens all the time...
This happened A LOT back in the '90s -- before the ubiquity of the Internet when shit hit every skateboard kid in the world in a matter of moments. Single shots especially. One that stands out is Eric Pupecki's frontside K-grind on the old Venice Hubba. Fuck, man, I'm still waiting to see that footage! (Props to Eric for sticking it on the ledge, though! That was gnarly in and of itself.)
Regardless, I've seen a few clips of Tancowny -- dude gets down!
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i think the new standard is the guy has to land the trick at some point.....some 'makes' are called in.....
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either way he probably landed it. Very rarely do companies run shit when dudes don't land it. And I say rarely cause....it does happen. :-\
if you knew the amount of sequences, ads, and even cover that aren't makes you would shit... Classic example, Slap Jose Rojo Backtail Stanford, came out years ago on the cover, and he finally just landed it... and I heard that the only reason he went back and did it is because Enjoi wouldn't turn him pro until he did....
The mags really don't care if its a make or not. It happens all the time...
This happened A LOT back in the '90s -- before the ubiquity of the Internet when shit hit every skateboard kid in the world in a matter of moments. Single shots especially. One that stands out is Eric Pupecki's frontside K-grind on the old Venice Hubba. Fuck, man, I'm still waiting to see that footage! (Props to Eric for sticking it on the ledge, though! That was gnarly in and of itself.)
Regardless, I've seen a few clips of Tancowny -- dude gets down!
Also that Tom Penny Front blunt cover was a major one that the general public never saw footy of.
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i remember aaron snyder getting busted for this back in the day and then getting all pissy about it in an interview.
Snyderman had a reason to be pissed, he had landed the trick on video (s-s varial flip nosegrind) and had a right guard sponsorship to boot! Who was that fool to call him out?
This will be the first trick in whatever part comes out next of his, based on what I've seen the guy do thusfar.
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it's obvious that the individual in the background is none other than the obscure SF lurker Julien Stranger.
As soon as he felt his soul being absorbed by photographs, he teleported to another skate spot to finish his six pack at.
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It's fake, the landing frames are all off.
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The whole thing is staged. It was shot poolside at the Flamingo using a portable telephone some dwarf brought out from the casino.
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hold on
on trasher the mystery guy its gone
(http://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/image/Junkdrawer/2009/10/pg-tancomy-animated-ad-fnl.gif)
my options are:
1.someone forgot to delete the guy from that frame
2.the sequence its bullshit
3.thrasher guys noticed that and they did it
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2f__k0Pnw
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i don't really know how ads and things are done these days but if it is staged i think it is FUCKED UP!
i backside 360 kickflipped el toro yesterday
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There could be footy but, that shit is fake.
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i've definitely seen dudes get so close to a trick that they have like four or five REALLY good flix on it and the photog is over it and says, " these are good, just send me the footage of the make and i'll run one of these." then go get a beer. i'm alright with that, but if it's not a make, that's shady biz no matter how you cut it.
k
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It's a Pig sequence. Who Cares...
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Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.
This is fake as fuck, just image how much stills are fake.
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its really not that hard... they take a few frames of him rolling away, from say a backside 180, and put them at the end of a non-made trick... It happens more often than you think...
There's footage of a photographer doing this in Baker Bootleg. A well-known one, I believe...
Affirmative, and I think it's Michael Burnett.
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i've definitely seen dudes get so close to a trick that they have like four or five REALLY good flix on it and the photog is over it and says, " these are good, just send me the footage of the make and i'll run one of these." then go get a beer. i'm alright with that, but if it's not a make, that's shady biz no matter how you cut it.
k
Sums it up perfectly.
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Most of this sequence looks just like the footage, so I'm not sure why someone added an extra frame with a dude in the background?
This is in hi part which will be out in the next few weeks.
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Aha that's fucking classic. If it's a pig ad though they probably wanted his pig-shirt logo to be visible, so maybe they used frames from a different landing where you could see the logo clearly.
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the dude probably realized he was BGPing and jumped out of the way?
if this is fake that is fucking gay
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who the fuck is jamie tancowny anyway?
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Jason Dill switch front crook Hubba...
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who the fuck is jamie tancowny anyway?
one of the few canadians that we don't bitch about not 'making it'.....
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the dude probably realized he was BGPing and jumped out of the way?
Consider how fast he'd have to move.
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All photos and video from here are faked. The clipper ledge doesn't even actually exist. It's just a bluescreen at a stage in the thrasher warehouse
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who the fuck is jamie tancowny anyway?
i thought he was pretty well known
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More importantly, pig wheels is still around?
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who the fuck is jamie tancowny anyway?
i thought he was pretty well known
He will be soon!!
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hes definitely capable. he has a gnarly backside flip shot at skate plaza vancouver in the new skateboard mag..
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It's a Pig sequence. Who Cares...
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wait what? pig is sick!
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i've definitely seen dudes get so close to a trick that they have like four or five REALLY good flix on it and the photog is over it and says, " these are good, just send me the footage of the make and i'll run one of these." then go get a beer. i'm alright with that, but if it's not a make, that's shady biz no matter how you cut it.
k
swank anyone?
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
yeah. Not too many people have done shit over Clipper. I remember Caswell kickflipping it a bunch of years back and Zach Walin wallied it in Bonus Round . . . . and that's about it.
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
yeah. Not too many people have done shit over Clipper. I remember Caswell kickflipping it a bunch of years back and Zach Walin wallied it in Bonus Round . . . . and that's about it.
...and richie jackson did that footplant thing.
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wait what? pig is sick!
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
yeah. Not too many people have done shit over Clipper. I remember Caswell kickflipping it a bunch of years back and Zach Walin wallied it in Bonus Round . . . . and that's about it.
.....somebody fs flipped it in sus monts
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If it is fake, I would think they would have done a gnarlier trick. No point in doing all that photoshop just for a backside flip. I am sure he just got an angle that missed the guy in the background. I am sure it is real.
yeah. Not too many people have done shit over Clipper. I remember Caswell kickflipping it a bunch of years back and Zach Walin wallied it in Bonus Round . . . . and that's about it.
.....somebody fs flipped it in sus monts
Those Canadians hey?
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Jason Dill switch front crook Hubba...
nice example of never seen footage, or sequence or proof
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The guy could have been photoshopped out but if you look closely at where he lands, seems to be in the wrong place, too far to his left for the angle he was skating in, like if he magically jumped sideways...
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its really not that hard... they take a few frames of him rolling away, from say a backside 180, and put them at the end of a non-made trick... It happens more often than you think...
There's footage of a photographer doing this in Baker Bootleg. A well-known one, I believe...
brian sumner @ muska ledge
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please don't mention that name - sumner is the worst
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i feel some hair gel hijacking this thread....
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please don't mention that name - sumner is the worst
yeah but i was talking shit on him so its all good