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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: yetiii on November 17, 2009, 09:55:23 AM
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
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happy to see berra directing the groms to real skate shops; this is a cool thing to do with the popularity of the berrics.
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
there is a legit skateshop 1 block away from a shopping mall here and i guarantee 99% of the people that go to the zumies have no idea it exists
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I think it's a good idea. The small shops always get a slap in the face from all the companies, so it's cool to see anyone helping out the little guys.
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
there is a legit skateshop 1 block away from a shopping mall here and i guarantee 99% of the people that go to the zumies have no idea it exists
same thing back in colorado. we have a zumiez in an outlet mall, right across the street from my favorite skater-owned, hole-in-the-wall shop. The Grind wouldn't be able to stay open anymore if they didnt rent skis and sell lift tickets
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Funny that they're doing this before they launch a full blown mailorder business that will certainly take business away from local shops.
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I don't hate Berra, but its these little addresses he gives are funny. Its like he thinks he is the president of skateboarding.
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How did Berra pick the shops featured? There are definitely a few more places in Georgia than the ones listed.
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If shops would like to be part of it, they can submit their information.
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Wow, no wonder Michigan sucks, apparently there's not one fucking skateshop here.
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Definitely a good idea since the kids who eat the Berrics up are the same kids who usually spend all their money at mall stores. But holy shit are these Berra speeches awkward!
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I don't hate Berra, but its these little addresses he gives are funny. Its like he thinks he is the president of skateboarding.
I'm convinced Steve Berra's a Methhead. He's so intense on these videos!
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berra is doing something awesome for skateboarding, whether or not he's making money off it while doing it.
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FUCK THAT PATRICK DEMPSEY WANNA BE
(http://blogs.setonhill.edu/TiffanyGilbert/patrick_dempsey1_300_400.jpg)
(http://www.steveberra.com/photos/06.jpg)
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You can't call him a "wanna be" just cause he was born a handsome man
but anyways,
I definitely back this.
and oh, here's the link to the video since the thread maker was too damn lazy to include it. (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YuVK4iPYAcQLCM:http://i.pbase.com/u35/murda/upload/22914376.angrysmiley056.gif)
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyops.php
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u rate guys therefore you are a fucking homosexual fagget queer bitch boy
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I don't hate Berra, but its these little addresses he gives are funny. Its like he thinks he is the president of skateboarding.
"No really guys i can act. Check this out!"
If it really helps shops though, i' down
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u rate guys therefore you are a fucking homosexual fagget queer bitch boy
you act like a whiny 13 year old who thinks he's the shit.
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u rate guys therefore you are a fucking homosexual fagget queer bitch boy
Only someone with deep-seeded homophobia would be afraid to admit that another man is handsome.
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u rate guys therefore you are a fucking homosexual fagget queer bitch boy
RAWBERTSON - IM AS REAL AS IT GETS
AND EVEN IF I SHOVE MY HAND UP YA ASS, IM NOT FEELIN YA SHIT
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You can't call him a "wanna be" just cause he was born a handsome man
but anyways,
I definitely back this.
and oh, here's the link to the video since the thread maker was too damn lazy to include it. (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YuVK4iPYAcQLCM:http://i.pbase.com/u35/murda/upload/22914376.angrysmiley056.gif)
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyops.php
can't say you did a good job with that "link". it won't be correct in a few days...
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1498
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this is really cool, but the beginning and end of that address way too fucking dramatic. "fire off like an AK-47?"... i'd be hyped if he said dragon instead.
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steve berra is the bono of skateboarding.
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steve berra is the bono of skateboarding.
haha, yes!
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^perfect!
u rate guys therefore you are a fucking homosexual fagget queer bitch boy
lol! this is exactly the reaction I was expecting/going for.
Have a gnar today, but tomorrow I will battle rap you
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How did Berra pick the shops featured? There are definitely a few more places in Georgia than the ones listed.
I know how he picked the shops featured.
They paid The Berrics a substantial amount of money.
It's akin to advertising and the shops that are doing it are smart.
Hopefully kids will support their local shops more and more.
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ITS CALLED PAYIN THE FUCK DJ TO GET AIRPLAY DUMMIES
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It's all just so important. I appreciate the content on the site but I dont like all the power they are being given to govern shit...especially coming from such a thinly vailed business plan (albeit brilliant).
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HAY STEVE, THIS IS A GOOD THING YOU ARE DOING. BUT WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO TELL US THESE THINGS IN BLACK AND WHITE FOOTAGE, SOUNDING LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT TO CRY? THAT'S REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING, STEVE.
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Haha good point!
I honestly believe that Steve Berra means well and i don't think his intentions are motivated by money. A lot of people are claiming that he gets a shitload of money through the Berrics but does anyone have any proof for this accusation?
Doesn't that Anonymous have someting to do with the berrics? in case does anyone know what exactly?
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If he's not a millionaire via advertising through the berrics by now, then he's a fucking idiot.
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none in the bay area i wonder why, not too much berrics talk around here
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If he's not a millionaire via advertising through the berrics by now, then he's a fucking idiot.
You must be 16 if you are that dumb to think the berrics is really pulling in the cash. I think Berra sees it becoming a very profitable business in time but in no way is it raking in the dough right now.
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none in the bay area i wonder why, not too much berrics talk around here
The directory just launched and will undoubtedly fill up fast.
HAY STEVE, THIS IS A GOOD THING YOU ARE DOING. BUT WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO TELL US THESE THINGS IN BLACK AND WHITE FOOTAGE, SOUNDING LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT TO CRY?
It's an Omaha thing.
(http://www.chalkedup.com/files/events/thefaint.jpg)
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man that shit was awkward
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i have hole burnt straight through my face
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dude's self-awareness level is about on par with jrblastoff.
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Seems like an educational tool for regular kids that don't realize there is a real skateshop in there town.
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I think its a good idea, and kudos to Berra.
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Down with the idea, but damn does berra love to hear himself talk.
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"and we're firing like an ak47" hahahahahah
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
PacSun, they're way more OG.
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If he's not a millionaire via advertising through the berrics by now, then he's a fucking idiot.
Bear in mind:
He dropped $10-20,000 on the winners of Battle at the Berrics
He's about to drop the same (maybe more, who knows?) on the next BATB winners
He just rebuilt his park
The only things they sell are limited t-shirts and decks
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the filmers, Donovan, etc. actually get paid.
I don't understand the hate Berra gets. Sure, his last video parts haven't been that great, he skates fake spots, he's a scientologist, blah blah, but he genuinely loves skateboarding and uses his extremely successful website to help out the people who deserve it.
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i think the regular pros probably help to rebuild the park, and yeah everyone gets paid there(the guys that make the berrics happen) enough to live off so i agree, i dont think hes pulling that much money but this is the first thing that i actually like that hes doing. keep kids out of zumiez, ron john and all those mall stores and help the guys that got into for skating. never thought i'd say this but props to berra
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"and we're firing like an ak47" hahahahahah
Well, i thought it was clever....
The whole black and white, dramatic speech's need to fucking stop though.
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Stop being so intense, Berra. Shit. I'm fantasizing about this happening again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz08JTrtXd4
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
there is a legit skateshop 1 block away from a shopping mall here and i guarantee 99% of the people that go to the zumies have no idea it exists
same thing back in colorado. we have a zumiez in an outlet mall, right across the street from my favorite skater-owned, hole-in-the-wall shop. The Grind wouldn't be able to stay open anymore if they didnt rent skis and sell lift tickets
damn you live up in silverthorn? Colorado rulez. p.s. The Denver Shop por vida.
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what the fuck is he talking about people/skateboarders losing jobs
complain, complain, complain blame too
survive the way baseball, basketball, and football do in America
This is why you don't see this guy in bigger films
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If he's not a millionaire via advertising through the berrics by now, then he's a fucking idiot.
Bear in mind:
He dropped $10-20,000 on the winners of Battle at the Berrics
He's about to drop the same (maybe more, who knows?) on the next BATB winners
He just rebuilt his park
The only things they sell are limited t-shirts and decks
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the filmers, Donovan, etc. actually get paid.
I don't understand the hate Berra gets. Sure, his last video parts haven't been that great, he skates fake spots, he's a scientologist, blah blah, but he genuinely loves skateboarding and uses his extremely successful website to help out the people who deserve it.
Agreed.
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none in the bay area i wonder why, not too much berrics talk around here
The directory just launched and will undoubtedly fill up fast.
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HAY STEVE, THIS IS A GOOD THING YOU ARE DOING. BUT WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO TELL US THESE THINGS IN BLACK AND WHITE FOOTAGE, SOUNDING LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT TO CRY?
It's an Omaha thing.
(http://www.chalkedup.com/files/events/thefaint.jpg)
hey you think your all funny with that joke hahah fuck you im from omaha
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
I think Steve needs a teleprompter
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How did Berra pick the shops featured? There are definitely a few more places in Georgia than the ones listed.
THEY PAID MONEY TO HAVE THAT SHIT ON THERE. ITS FUNNY THE CANTEEN WILL LAUNCH ITS MAIL ORDER, ANYONE ON THE BIZ PART OF SKATEBOARDING KNOWS THAT HIS MAIL ORDER IS GOING TO TRY AND PUT ALL MAIL ORDERS OUT OF BIZ. BUT WAIT DONT ALL CORE SHOPS SELL ONLINE? SCIENTOLOGY IS ONE HELL OF A RELIGION.....
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
Just lost all respect for anything that has to do with Steve Berra and Eric Koston. Wow.
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Your argument is whack! If you do the math based on that rate sheet. Who even knows if it's real. At the very least it amounts to a whopping $1.64 a day or at the very most $14.47 per day. No need to loose respect!
***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
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happy to see berra directing the groms to real skate shops; this is a cool thing to do with the popularity of the berrics.
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It does not seem as if the argument is saying how much the program cost, but more or less that Berra gave the idea that the program is "so you know who the IMPORTANT skateshops are" when in fact it's just "so you know who's PAYING the berrics" to be seen.
Blackbox, Girl/Choc, and now Deluxe are all running awesome shop connect programs for FREE.
It took Jim Theibauld one post to discuss the Deluxe shop connect program "RT @jimt43 t's free. It's simple. It will send kids to skate shops."
It took Berra 15 mins, a bunch of crazy AK47 references, dramatic lighting, AND NO SOLID FACTS to talk about their program.
You can find the rates right on the berrics site if you want to see them yourself http://www.berricsunified.com/plan-selection.php (http://www.berricsunified.com/plan-selection.php)
Your argument is whack! If you do the math based on that rate sheet. Who even knows if it's real. At the very least it amounts to a whopping $1.64 a day or at the very most $14.47 per day. No need to loose respect!
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
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^what Dirtjers said.
Also, Berra you're a fucking hustler. Don't pretend like you're hurting for money. You're just hungry for it.
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OK...fuck this shit!!! Like struggling local shops can pay those kind of monthly costs. Fuck You Berra!!
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That video was kinda scary. Like child molester scary.
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if it means all the little grommets that go on the site see that there is a cool shop in their area to go to rather than giving their money to zumies, then there is nothing bad that can be said about it. i look forward to seeing what their other initiatives are. kudos mr berra, you could easily ignore these shops and your site and business would continue to grow, but you're not. we all know it's easier to do nothing
wait, there are other skateshops, besides zumiez?
there is a legit skateshop 1 block away from a shopping mall here and i guarantee 99% of the people that go to the zumies have no idea it exists
same thing back in colorado. we have a zumiez in an outlet mall, right across the street from my favorite skater-owned, hole-in-the-wall shop. The Grind wouldn't be able to stay open anymore if they didnt rent skis and sell lift tickets
damn you live up in silverthorn? Colorado rulez. p.s. The Denver Shop por vida.
Ive got a special place in my heart for 303boards, but The Denver Shop is just as rad. anyways i dont think this will do much for local shops, especially considering the crazy costs they will have to pay. 350 a month to get 10 year old kids to see your shop on the berrics, which probably happens to be across the state for them. completely ridiculous...
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Oh wow. I just thought this was going to be a free directory thing. This sounds bad. This sounds really bad.
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20,000 banner impressions/month (30 days) = 666.666
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
Just lost all respect for anything that has to do with Steve Berra and Eric Koston. Wow.
I wouldnt rope Koston into this crazed idea, he really doesnt seem to do much on the business side of the berrics...
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i went from stoked on this to super sketched out. i like how his boy vinny ponte's shop isn't hooked up through this program after that nice spotlight a week or so ago.
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As A small shop we advertise in assorted newspapers,school calendars,coupon books etc. Our turnaround is minimal.
Last year we spent almost 2,000 without much if any noticeable revenue increase.
At least with the berrics anytime a kid in my state checks it, our banner is up there and they see it listed as a legit shop, meaning they might want to make the trek out.
Every kid at every park has heard of or checks the berrics regularly.
At least my money wont go to waste,I know for a fact it will be seen by skaters.
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As A small shop we advertise in assorted newspapers,school calendars,coupon books etc. Our turnaround is minimal.
Last year we spent almost 2,000 without much if any noticeable revenue increase.
At least with the berrics anytime a kid in my state checks it, our banner is up there and they see it listed as a legit shop, meaning they might want to make the trek out.
Every kid at every park has heard of or checks the berrics regularly.
At least my money wont go to waste,I know for a fact it will be seen by skaters.
AGAIN. I don't think it's the service, but how he pitched it to the public. Wouldn't a simple "Berrics now selling as space" do the job???
Selling some one a standard business service such as advertising is not a favor and sure as hell not a privileged.
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but why should a small-time shop have to pay in the first place?
if he's really passionate about what he's preaching, shouldn't these small shops who support the local scene be able to be advertised for free? shouldn't the berrics AT LEAST have the respect to do a service to shops doing a service to the community out of just the kindness of their heart? it WAS admirable when at first people thought it was a skater going out of his way to help small shops for the good of skateboarding alone but now people find out these shops have to PAY, so now it turned into another way for berra to pimp out the berrics.
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I get what you're saying.
However it's packaged I am capable of deciphering his dramatic delivery and seeing the potential.
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by the way it's turned into a back and forth between berra and steve from exit on twitter.
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but why should a small-time shop have to pay in the first place?
if he's really passionate about what he's preaching, shouldn't these small shops who support the local scene be able to be advertised for free? shouldn't the berrics AT LEAST have the respect to do a service to shops doing a service to the community out of just the kindness of their heart? it WAS admirable when at first people thought it was a skater going out of his way to help small shops for the good of skateboarding alone but now people find out these shops have to PAY, so now it turned into another way for berra to pimp out the berrics.
Exactly. I could understand paying for extra advertising. But the way he pitched it, it seems like shops should be able to get at least a listing for free. His epic-Bono like-Saviour of skateboarding-speech is what makes this now seem like a big money making scheme.
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by the way it's turned into a back and forth between berra and steve from exit on twitter.
Got a link?
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I wonder what's going to happen when the managers at PacSun and Zumiez choose their membership plan.
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i guess follow @steve_berra and @exitskateshop I am not twitter savoy
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but why should a small-time shop have to pay in the first place?
if he's really passionate about what he's preaching, shouldn't these small shops who support the local scene be able to be advertised for free? shouldn't the berrics AT LEAST have the respect to do a service to shops doing a service to the community out of just the kindness of their heart? it WAS admirable when at first people thought it was a skater going out of his way to help small shops for the good of skateboarding alone but now people find out these shops have to PAY, so now it turned into another way for berra to pimp out the berrics.
Looking at the berrics, the people involved and the daily costs and toils of operating such a place I can only imagine how much it might be to run. Lots of websites charge to advertise,realistically small ads on someones homepage probably don't do much.
But the berrics are different,the web traffic they get is insane,either I can keep throwing my money away on a dated mindset of making a crappy ad that fills a 4x4 inch space on some random page in a newspaper no one reads and throw my $300 every month or two away,or i can try to be involved with something that actually gets noticed by potential customers.And I give my money back to skateboarders instead of some shitty publishing company.It's no different than placing an ad in tws or paying one to play on the radio. The difference is that instead of falling on deaf ears, it's making it's way right to the people I want to see it,in my region.
I know what everyone is saying, but running a business you know there are expenses.Marketing is just one of them. If a handful of kids see an ad and decide to check that shop out, isn't that what counts?Getting more people in the door?
Better me to pay for an ad than another ccs/active/footlocker etc on the berrics,Yeah I'd love to get it for free but everyone has gotta make some money.
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I agree it's a fine business strategy and the pricing is reasonable. But his video introduction of Berrics United was more than a bit disingenuous—he made it seem like a philanthropic, rather than commercial, effort. Or as @ExitSkateshop put it:
@steve_berra the video is misleading and I am curious how many shops inquire with the idea it may be free.
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berra seems like an idiot, and il be sure to go to exit tomorrow and actually support them by buying a board, was planning on buying an alien but after all this shit im goin with a dlx board
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but why should a small-time shop have to pay in the first place?
if he's really passionate about what he's preaching, shouldn't these small shops who support the local scene be able to be advertised for free? shouldn't the berrics AT LEAST have the respect to do a service to shops doing a service to the community out of just the kindness of their heart? it WAS admirable when at first people thought it was a skater going out of his way to help small shops for the good of skateboarding alone but now people find out these shops have to PAY, so now it turned into another way for berra to pimp out the berrics.
But the berrics are different,the web traffic they get is insane,either I can keep throwing my money away on a dated mindset of making a crappy ad that fills a 4x4 inch space on some random page in a newspaper no one reads and throw my $300 every month or two away,or i can try to be involved with something that actually gets noticed by potential customers.And I give my money back to skateboarders instead of some shitty publishing company.It's no different than placing an ad in tws or paying one to play on the radio. The difference is that instead of falling on deaf ears, it's making it's way right to the people I want to see it,in my region.
I know what everyone is saying, but running a business you know there are expenses.Marketing is just one of them. If a handful of kids see an ad and decide to check that shop out, isn't that what counts?Getting more people in the door?
Better me to pay for an ad than another ccs/active/footlocker etc on the berrics,Yeah I'd love to get it for free but everyone has gotta make some money.
i understand that but you support a man that disguises nothing more than a site to sell ad space and get money due to the popularity of his site as some sympathetic helping hand out to struggling skate shops?
i just can't get behind that. sorry.
AT LEAST have a plan for local skate shops to be able post their shop in the database for free or come out and say "im creating a advertising site through the berrics to post your local shops". but don't cloud it as some charitable act and seem like a saint to the skateboard community when you're nothing but a douche using the popularity of your site to cash in on the small time guys.
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I can see that.
I guess I just ignored the bs and saw an opportunity.
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Why don't skate shops just give you all the product they carry for free too. It's so lame that they actually charge you money for it, when you're probably entitled to get it free along with everything else in life. SteezusChrist = tiny mind.
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but why should a small-time shop have to pay in the first place?
if he's really passionate about what he's preaching, shouldn't these small shops who support the local scene be able to be advertised for free? shouldn't the berrics AT LEAST have the respect to do a service to shops doing a service to the community out of just the kindness of their heart? it WAS admirable when at first people thought it was a skater going out of his way to help small shops for the good of skateboarding alone but now people find out these shops have to PAY, so now it turned into another way for berra to pimp out the berrics.
But the berrics are different,the web traffic they get is insane,either I can keep throwing my money away on a dated mindset of making a crappy ad that fills a 4x4 inch space on some random page in a newspaper no one reads and throw my $300 every month or two away,or i can try to be involved with something that actually gets noticed by potential customers.And I give my money back to skateboarders instead of some shitty publishing company.It's no different than placing an ad in tws or paying one to play on the radio. The difference is that instead of falling on deaf ears, it's making it's way right to the people I want to see it,in my region.
I know what everyone is saying, but running a business you know there are expenses.Marketing is just one of them. If a handful of kids see an ad and decide to check that shop out, isn't that what counts?Getting more people in the door?
Better me to pay for an ad than another ccs/active/footlocker etc on the berrics,Yeah I'd love to get it for free but everyone has gotta make some money.
i understand that but you support a man that disguises nothing more than a site to sell ad space and get money due to the popularity of his site as some sympathetic helping hand out to struggling skate shops?
i just can't get behind that. sorry.
AT LEAST have a plan for local skate shops to be able post their shop in the database for free or come out and say "im creating a advertising site through the berrics to post your local shops". but don't cloud it as some charitable act and seem like a saint to the skateboard community when you're nothing but a douche using the popularity of your site to cash in on the small time guys.
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Insn't @jimt43 backing this? That's from his tweet below.
jimt43 RT @berrics BERRICS UNIFIED http://tinyurl.com/dlyops - very very cool to see sk8ers making good things happen.
It does not seem as if the argument is saying how much the program cost, but more or less that Berra gave the idea that the program is "so you know who the IMPORTANT skateshops are" when in fact it's just "so you know who's PAYING the berrics" to be seen.
Blackbox, Girl/Choc, and now Deluxe are all running awesome shop connect programs for FREE.
It took Jim Theibauld one post to discuss the Deluxe shop connect program "RT @jimt43 t's free. It's simple. It will send kids to skate shops."
It took Berra 15 mins, a bunch of crazy AK47 references, dramatic lighting, AND NO SOLID FACTS to talk about their program.
You can find the rates right on the berrics site if you want to see them yourself http://www.berricsunified.com/plan-selection.php (http://www.berricsunified.com/plan-selection.php)
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Your argument is whack! If you do the math based on that rate sheet. Who even knows if it's real. At the very least it amounts to a whopping $1.64 a day or at the very most $14.47 per day. No need to loose respect!
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
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Why don't skate shops just give you all the product they carry for free too. It's so lame that they actually charge you money for it, when you're probably entitled to get it free along with everything else in life. SteezusChrist = tiny mind.
you = idiot
if skate shops gave all their product for free then they will go out of business. if the berrics gives free advertisement to small skate shops will the berrics go out of business? no, so the point you were trying to make was dumb.
i dont have a problem with skate shops using the berrics to advertise their shop but don't cloud is as a charity act like you're giving a helping hand to skateboarding.
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Stop being so intense, Berra. Shit. I'm fantasizing about this happening again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz08JTrtXd4
how come I've never seen this shit before?
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it looks like berra has deleted his comments directed towards steve at exit.
but they are up on haveboard
http://haveboard.com/the_berrics_unified_pay_to_play/ (http://haveboard.com/the_berrics_unified_pay_to_play/)
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Stop being so intense, Berra. Shit. I'm fantasizing about this happening again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz08JTrtXd4
how come I've never seen this shit before?
because skateboarders dont watch that shit let alone want to star in them, Well i guess some skateboarders wanna be actors. That tag body spray commercial is pretty epic..... SURE GUY.......
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That performance explains his return to skateboarding.
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I start to dislike the berrics & Berra more and more. It's disgusting to hear this guy say he want's to help shops, because they are struggling
for different reasons. "Selling" his berrics unified program as help for core shops.
There are 4 different levels starting at $1440 and finishing at $5280. With that amount of money, you can do better than giving it to Mr Steve Berra.
$5280 are not spare change, you can already pay a persons wage.
If he really would like to help, he could have done this program with a lower pricing system. I can understand he has to pay the bandwith, server space and wathever.
The Berrics - We Don't save skateshops , We charge them.
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A lot of information has come to the surface since my last post. It seems that the berrics unified is something different than i just thought. As someone said earlier, why would he disguise it as something charitable if the shops have to pay money for it? that just doesn't make sense. I ain't hating on the berrics or berra i would just like to see him defend this unified thing to all the haters. and telling us what exactly he gets from it. and please in written form.
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This is fucked! FUCK THE BERRICS!
BATTLE AT THE BERRICS REALLY SUCKED THIS TIME TOO!
OH AND FUCK KOSTON FOR BEING INVOLVED!
money money money
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He's selling his stuff in skate shops that seem to already be doing well, that's not going to solve anything.
Berra is staring to act like Glen Beck
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
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What really bothers me is that he doesn't have the testicles to come out and say "Since the Berrics is a very viral website with over X amount of hits a day, I am offering the chance for shops to buy ad space on here to create the largest skateshop directory excluding mall stores or illegitimate shops. So now the kids know where they can find a legit shop who also supports the Berrics. You scratch our back, we'll scratch yours**" Instead he needs to sugarcoat it and make it out like he's a messiah to the skateboard industry. It all comes down to character, and this shows Steve is really lacking thereof. It's like when your parents say "I am not mad at you, I am just disappointed", I am not mad at you Steve, but as a fellow skateboarder I am disappointed.
**I included this because Steve always adds in some cheesy saying at the end of his speeches
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
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"Don't cry"
Steve is so fucking lame.
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The Berrics Unified is dope. Skateshops can advertise their shops to skateboarders for low dough. Support your skate shop, support The Berrics. The End.
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berric$
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
If Steve Miller at Exit drank one less beer a day he could afford this and be marketing his shop and doing something productive instead of crying! Does Steve Miller even skate or does he take all the money he makes off of skateboarding to buy wax for his cock duster right above his upper lip?
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
If Steve Miller at Exit drank one less beer a day he could afford this and be marketing his shop and doing something productive instead of crying! Does Steve Miller even skate or does he take all the money he makes off of skateboarding to buy wax for his cock duster right above his upper lip?
You have to remember that is on top of paying rent for the their location, paying for utilities, paying shop employees, and buying large orders ahead of time to have enough stock to sell. The whole point is that alot of shops are not breaking even and going under. If a shop is barely making it by as it is...an extra $600 isn't as little as you think.
And even then...like alot of people have already mentioned...if Berra had just said upfront "we're offering advertising space for a relatively small fee..." no one would be complaining. It was the way he presented it, making himself look generous while making money behind the scenes, that is pissing everyone off. He OBVIOUSLY wants the majority of kids to think he's helping these shops out "just because he's so awesome." And most kids reading the Berrics will never look deeper than what Berra tells them upfront.
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I realize a lot of people are not down with how he portrayed himself in that video.
Besides that, if you are a shop thats doing ok, chances are you have a marketing budget.
We'll say it's $1000 a year, his prices are not insane and you actually are advertising directly to the people you want to see it.
Yeah I would rather he was upfront and said it as it is.
For the record he made it sound pretty limited with who would be allowed to be in it.
Obviously in todays world that doesn't mean much as everything is everywhere.
So that remains to be seen.
There are always 2 sides to every equation, I can see the negative, but I'd rather focus on the positive.
One of the biggest skateboard oriented websites ever is giving a limited amount of small shops the chance to advertise on it.
Ask whitely about slap, having an ad on there isn't cheap and the rates are probably comparable.
I wish he didnt advertise it so hard to the kids yet and just got his shops dialed first, then talked about the shops who chose to advertise with him.He did approach it poorly, but whatever.
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
If Steve Miller at Exit drank one less beer a day he could afford this and be marketing his shop and doing something productive instead of crying! Does Steve Miller even skate or does he take all the money he makes off of skateboarding to buy wax for his cock duster right above his upper lip?
Steve said that?!
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if steve drank one less beer? oh alright god, i can play this game too- maybe if berra switch crooked one more 6 inch high flatbar he could get his contract extended another 5 years and continue to live his little fantasy life. then he can complain how somehow, just somehow, that isn't enough, and that in fact he should be living even more extravagantly for his "efforts." he is both washed up and delusional, a combination i'm sure he never wanted to become, but the years haven't been kind. who cares how often steve miller skates? he doesn't get paid to skateboard, he gets paid to support the philadelphia scene with his shop, and he's doing a good job. i don't ride for exit, actually i ride for another shop entirely, but whenever i've needed anything, steve miller has been there to help. why? because he backs philadelphia skateboarding. berra's trying to support a heated warehouse with light refreshments available for his friends in the lobby, a social club that people can watch from afar. steve miller is trying to support kids who work jobs and still stay out 'til 2 am waiting to skate downtown in the freezing cold because they love it. if you can't back that then you're fucked.
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It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
the $50/month membership probably only gets the shop name on the page. no ad or banner stuff up. if you actually want to advertise you've got to drop some cash.
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it leaves a bad taste how he advertised this idea , communicating like he is the "jesus" of the core shops .
Instead he wants at least 1440$ up to $5280.
The Berra stats to annoy me.
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hey slap! if everyone on here just pitched 10cents a day then steve miller cuold drink and EXTRA beer every day!
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hey slap! if everyone on here just pitched 10cents a day then steve miller cuold drink and EXTRA beer every day!
yes!
Rawb, the sally struthers of the skatebooarding beer-famine. HA!
k
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It's all in the pitch that makes it offensive. If you want to sell ads, sell ads. But don't act like you're doing anyone a favor.
That's right.
If you pay someone money, you are doing something for them. Not the other way around.
What abunch of opportunistic BULLSHIT.
This will not help your shop "blow up". Myspace is freeeee and you will get the same return, promise.
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So it looks like the user lilscraze is non other then former pro skateboarder and paid employee of the berrics Salman Agah. Salman also happens to be the head of the "Berrics United"
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
If Steve Miller at Exit drank one less beer a day he could afford this and be marketing his shop and doing something productive instead of crying! Does Steve Miller even skate or does he take all the money he makes off of skateboarding to buy wax for his cock duster right above his upper lip?
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So it looks like the user lilscraze is non other then former pro skateboarder and paid employee of the berrics Salman Agah. Salman also happens to be the head of the "Berrics United"
Nope. me thinks lilscraze works at SkateBook with Mike Ballard and formerly Salman Agah.
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Can someone copy and paste the twitter comments between Steve and the Exit guy and post them here?
It cost’s 50$ x 12 = $600 a year to be in The Berrics Unified 600 / 365 days = $1.64˘. That sounds practically free to me. At the city level it costs a colossal $3.95 per day. People are crying over 400 pennies. WOW.
If Steve Miller at Exit drank one less beer a day he could afford this and be marketing his shop and doing something productive instead of crying! Does Steve Miller even skate or does he take all the money he makes off of skateboarding to buy wax for his cock duster right above his upper lip?
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is kelch's story true about how you actually are goofy footed and all those tricks werent actually switch??
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Boooooooooooooo!
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is kelch's story true about how you actually are goofy footed and all those tricks werent actually switch??
No.
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The Berrics Unified is dope. Skateshops can advertise their shops to skateboarders for low dough. Support your skate shop, support The Berrics. The End.
clearly a berrics employee in "disguise".
Berra has sunken to a new low. And yes, battle at the berrics 2 has sucked balls this year
edit: Salman?? tsk tsk tsk
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Skater Aid and Ice Lounge hahaha
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I wonder if everyone boycotts this all and doesn't even participate in it. The state of california has like no fucking shops on it......but everyone knows all the legit shops in Northern California (DLX. FTC, 510, Metro, Atlas, etc). Hope none of them stoop down to putting themselves on that unified list.
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hey slap! if everyone on here just pitched 10cents a day then steve miller cuold drink and EXTRA beer every day!
I'm down
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"bullets don't affect change, its the ideas of the men firing them...."
"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
wow remind me to never even consider not hating this fucking douchebag. seriously a new level of delusion from Berra.
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
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its called capitalism.
steve not doing any new shit; we've bought into this for centuries.
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You could buy so fucking much beer and cigs for 5000 dollars.
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Yeah his delivery on that was terrible, isn't it taboo in skateboarding to reveal salaries, anything to do with money?
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
HAHAH capitalism, indeed.
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
Ahahah great photoshop. Classic. Here's one I just did:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/SaintBerra.jpg)
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You could buy so fucking much beer and cigs for 5000 dollars.
one carton of smokes = $50.00 = 10 packs
three cartons = 1 month (30 days)
3 x 12 x 50 = $1800.00 for one year of quality smokes.
leaves $3200.00 for beer. i only drink a couple times a week and not even that much when i do. i would love to have that sort of cig and beer budget.
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Berra's Twitter posts back there were awful.
...so are kids going to see through this bullshit or not?
Doubt it. Kids eat everything at the Berrics right up. "Buttery" has essentially become required vocabulary for every little shithead nowadays. It's gross.
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
Ahahah great photoshop. Classic. Here's one I just did:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/SaintBerra.jpg)
Priceless!
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Berra looked like a cunt on that video but thought he was trying to do some good so had grudging respect for him.
Now it turns out that its just a directory service that you have to pay for makes Berra look like a insincere scientolgoist cunt!
Has anyone actually seen the shops that are on there? The Cali ones look massive and one at least has 6 other stores in its chain and sell snowboards and surfboards. There the ones who have the money to pay for it.
Not exactly helping out struggling shops even if their rates are 'competitive'.
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
Ahahah great photoshop. Classic. Here's one I just did:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/SaintBerra.jpg)
SFAHAHAHA, that shit needs to be posted everytime some douche makes a berrica thread.
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cream
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Berra tries so hard, but he manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory every time.
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This is fucked up, he made himself look like a fucking saint in the video. Why is it that when someone actually has the power to do something good, they aren't.
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You could buy so fucking much beer and cigs for 5000 dollars.
one carton of smokes = $50.00 = 10 packs
three cartons = 1 month (30 days)
3 x 12 x 50 = $1800.00 for one year of quality smokes.
leaves $3200.00 for beer. i only drink a couple times a week and not even that much when i do. i would love to have that sort of cig and beer budget.
Uh...I just realized, I spend way too much money on cigarettes. Think I should change my name to Nicorette lights...
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I DONT THINK YOU FAGS REALIZE SLAP IS GIVING THIS GUY 10X MORE POPULARITY CAUSE EVERY DAY A NEW FUCKIN THREAD IS DROPPED ABOUT HIM. DUMB IDIOTS WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT THIS FAG IS DOIN ??
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I DONT THINK YOU FAGS REALIZE SLAP IS GIVING THIS GUY 10X MORE POPULARITY CAUSE EVERY DAY A NEW FUCKIN THREAD IS DROPPED ABOUT HIM. DUMB IDIOTS WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT THIS FAG IS DOIN ??
You think kids read slap???
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No, but people who fuck kids do. That's why I'm here. I'm Chris Hansen. Steve Boner had better lock that Curren Caples "Bangin" -"B-footy" deep within his vault unless he wants a visit from me and my crew to do a little filming of our own. Take a seat, right there, over on that portable yellow flat bar...
I'm Chris Hansen. AKA Big Hanz. AKA Lil Hanz, AKA Damn Hanzsome.
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No, but people who fuck kids do. That's why I'm here. I'm Chris Hansen. Steve Boner had better lock that Curren Caples "Bangin" -"B-footy" deep within his vault unless he wants a visit from me and my crew to do a little filming of our own. Take a seat, right there, over on that portable yellow flat bar...
I'm Chris Hansen. AKA Big Hanz. AKA Lil Hanz, AKA Damn Hanzsome.
oh my god yes
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Why hasn't anyone called out The Berrics on their web analytics (ie the crux for which their ad rates are based)? <a href="http://www.boardistan.com/?p=11673">According to them</a>, TheBerrics.com rakes in 6 MILLION unique visitors per month. Keep in mind, the Tony Hawk Foundation states that there are only 12 million skaters in the US (~20mil globally). So numbers-wise, The Berrics is claiming their website is in the same league as <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/nfl.com/">NFL.com</a>, <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/fox.com">Fox.com</a>, and <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/nike.com/">Nike.com</a>
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No, but people who fuck kids do. That's why I'm here. I'm Chris Hansen. Steve Boner had better lock that Curren Caples "Bangin" -"B-footy" deep within his vault unless he wants a visit from me and my crew to do a little filming of our own. Take a seat, right there, over on that portable yellow flat bar...
I'm Chris Hansen. AKA Big Hanz. AKA Lil Hanz, AKA Damn Hanzsome.
oh my god yes
I wanna be a Slap Pal just so I can gnar Chris Hansen every time he appears.
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I don't believe that they get 6million unique visitors a month. Someone needs to get Alexa toolbar and call them on that shit. It's far too high to be believeable..if it was true, the ad rates would be massive and companies who advertise would be blowing a massive part of their budget on those banners and so have no money for everything else..skate companies are struggling just like everyone else
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No, but people who fuck kids do. That's why I'm here. I'm Chris Hansen. Steve Boner had better lock that Curren Caples "Bangin" -"B-footy" deep within his vault unless he wants a visit from me and my crew to do a little filming of our own. Take a seat, right there, over on that portable yellow flat bar...
I'm Chris Hansen. AKA Big Hanz. AKA Lil Hanz, AKA Damn Hanzsome.
oh my god yes
I wanna be a Slap Pal just so I can gnar Chris Hansen every time he appears.
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No, but people who fuck kids do. That's why I'm here. I'm Chris Hansen. Steve Boner had better lock that Curren Caples "Bangin" -"B-footy" deep within his vault unless he wants a visit from me and my crew to do a little filming of our own. Take a seat, right there, over on that portable yellow flat bar...
I'm Chris Hansen. AKA Big Hanz. AKA Lil Hanz, AKA Damn Hanzsome.
oh my god yes
I wanna be a Slap Pal just so I can gnar Chris Hansen every time he appears.
That's funny, everytime a post of his appears I gnar him before I even read it, that's how quality he is.
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Why hasn't anyone called out The Berrics on their web analytics (ie the crux for which their ad rates are based)? <a href="http://www.boardistan.com/?p=11673">According to them</a>, TheBerrics.com rakes in 6 MILLION unique visitors per month. Keep in mind, the Tony Hawk Foundation states that there are only 12 million skaters in the US (~20mil globally). So numbers-wise, The Berrics is claiming their website is in the same league as <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/nfl.com/">NFL.com</a>, <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/fox.com">Fox.com</a>, and <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/nike.com/">Nike.com</a>
http://www.quantcast.com/theberrics.com
564.1K
Global People
according to their estimates.
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Chris Gilmour to steveberra
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I'm a Berrics fan, I have been for a while, I don't skateboard much, but I would consider myself a photographer. I watch the berrics every day and when I saw the Berrics Unified video you put up I was excited that someone with the power to preserve skateboarding would actually do so without anything in it for themselves. However, recently i have found out that you are only letting shops be a part of Berrics Unified if they pay $5280 annually. At first I did not believe that you would do that at all especially the way you had portrayed yourself in the video, as a man who wants to preserve skateboarding, and not as one of the corporate pigs trying to corrupt it. I hope you are a man and reply to this E-Mail and give a good reason why you would say one thing for a camera and another thing for the shop owners that are struggling to break even because the companies like Zumiez make all the money.
-Chris Gilmour
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show details 7:41 PM (23 minutes ago)
you are using the most extreme example.
Try more like $120 per month. Much less than a penny saver ad.
Weekly ad. Hell, that's less than a school newspaper ad.
Don't try to twist things. $5280 is for a year of advertising that has
a value of $100,000.
$5280 is for a shop to advertise in almost 40 states, which they
have no reason to do if they don't have a mailorder or a skatepark
and want people to migrate there. The program is meant to be
most effective on the city and state level. $120 per month is not
an exorbitant amount of money for a shop to pay for advertising for
their city. So... is that MAN enough for you?
sb
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5280
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUUWNP-Q0q8
lol
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Disgusted... Absolutely disgusted.
I was first going to come on here and post making fun of Steve Berra in that video but then I decided not to because I THOUGHT he was actually doing something good.
Fuck... What is this shit coming to... Steve Berra is dead to me, he is on Jereme Rogers kook level right now. Steve Berra does not care about skateboarding. He isn't a skateboarder, he is a business man and an actor. Hopefully Koston will disassociate himself from deceiving fag, though I doubt it, he already let giant corporations glide their cock into his rectal cavity.
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don't talk to and/or look at me like that steve berra
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Still mostly zeros on that map. Doesn't look like shops are clamoring to sign up.
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Still mostly zeros on that map. Doesn't look like shops are clamoring to sign up.
It's more of a list of shops to not go to now.
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Oh my god what a disingenuous sack of shit. Who would ever buy that bullshit? Give people jobs? Hahahahahaha
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Man that was bad. Small businesses being taxed to death at the state and federal level? Is that supposed to make him sound smart?
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I'm picturing Berra as the guy who gets fired from his job, and stops the office for a moment. He causes a fit, and asks who's coming with him.
Dorothy Boyd stands up... He says, "Dorothy Boyd is coming with me!!! And the fish!!!"
They walk out the office. In the car, Dorothy asks what their plan is. Berra says, "I have no idea, but I'm a killer sports agent."
Later that month, Berra goes crazy on Oprah.
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My first: /thread
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the worst thing is that the berrics take themselves to be the epicenter of skateboarding, and their opinion on skateboarding is always correct. Its like the united nations contest where steve said, "You guys just go and have fun, we'll decide if its good or not."
who are they to decide on whats good or bad.
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fuck berra
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fuck berra.
this quote pisses me off.....
"Steve Berra to me
show details 7:41 PM (23 minutes ago)
you are using the most extreme example.
Try more like $120 per month. Much less than a penny saver ad.
Weekly ad. Hell, that's less than a school newspaper ad.
Don't try to twist things. $5280 is for a year of advertising that has
a value of $100,000.
$5280 is for a shop to advertise in almost 40 states, which they
have no reason to do if they don't have a mailorder or a skatepark
and want people to migrate there. The program is meant to be
most effective on the city and state level. $120 per month is not
an exorbitant amount of money for a shop to pay for advertising for
their city. So... is that MAN enough for you?
sb"
he can go fuck himself. washed up fucking pro or not.
he's trying to become what he is talking about. for only $1440 to $5300 per year he will let kids know that you are a "cool" shop. it's only a web advertising contract... bottom line. you can be in his almighty skateshop directory for only $600 a year!!!!!! steve berra and the berrics will endorse you as a legitimate shop...... steve...get off your fucking ass and actually do something for skateboarding.
the reason he sounds so dramatic and like the world is ending is because he prob cant afford his e-class payment every month. if he actually cared about skateboarding and keeping shops alive... he would be out on the road promoting skateboarding, the brands he rides for and why skateshops are so important.
1 month... this shit will flop and all you will see is a directory for all the mall shops in north america.
guys a douche. battle at the berrics was a ok idea..... it was fun to watch. but this shit is wack....
all bow down to the savior of the skateshop..... in the meantime i am gonna spend any available budget directly on my skate customers and skate community.....
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the reason he sounds so dramatic and like the world is ending is because he prob cant afford his e-class payment every month.
He actually has a Ford Escape Hybrid.
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the worst thing is that the berrics take themselves to be the epicenter of skateboarding, and their opinion on skateboarding is always correct. Its like the united nations contest where steve said, "You guys just go and have fun, we'll decide if its good or not."
who are they to decide on whats good or bad.
If the epicenter of skating only mattered within four hallowed walls, shit would get boring really fast. Go outside, find or make your own spots and get some of your own!
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yes
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Fuck Steve Berra (except for his part in 4 Wheel Drive) Everything else has been manufactured shit. Anyone in here posting about the money and or prices is completely missing the point. The point is that every little skate rat in the world goes on The Berrics. They watch that video and close it when they're done thinking Berra is the savior of skateboarding, and what a great guy he is to help out the little guys. These kids don't own shops or know that you have to pay to be "unified". His creepy video is the opposite of the actual plan, It's insanely misleading to the kids who aren't on the business side of skateboarding.
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His Rolling Thunder part was sick too.
I wonder if he knows he fucked up yet? I guess we'll see how dillusional he really is now.
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Awesome.
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Still no shops on Norcal. This shit is an epic fail.
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So have any shops actually fallen for this yet?
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WHEN DO YOU THINK THE BERRICS IS GONNA GET SOME COMP FROM ANOTHER PRO/COMPANY DOIN THE SAME SHIT ...
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***this is a message I received from Steve at Exit in Philly***
The "Berrics Unified" is a new Advertising program launched by Steve Berra and The Berrics.
If you watched the video, and some how were lead to believe this program was a way to "Keep shops from closing their doors" or to "Show you who the IMPORTANT skateshops are". That's because this is in fact what Steve Berra told you. He did not inform that this is a program established to MAKE MONEY, that these are shops who have to PAY to be considered important. Unfortunately for many core (and now considered unimportant) shops a new $5280 annual advertising budget is completely unattainable, because most shops are "outspent, and out advertised by large corporations".
Berra speaks of consumer morals and "The principals skateboarding was founded upon" instead of being clear with his audience, and letting you know the truth "he is here to take your money". The only solid truth to be found in this video can be found on your own. We are well aware small skateboarding businesses are closing left and right. The strong few who remain struggle to survive. The important shops are not paying for ad space on this website... If you want to find the important shops in your community you need to get out there and find them yourself. This should not be hard. You can find them building PUBLIC parks and spots, throwing demo and events, and teaching kids the true "principals skateboarding was founded upon".
A scan of the information and rates sent to shops who filled out an inquiry can be found here http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj (http://tweetphoto.com/wjtzapjj). Don't believe everything fed to by an actor reading from a teleprompter.
Just lost all respect for anything that has to do with Steve Berra and Eric Koston. Wow.
I wouldnt rope Koston into this crazed idea, he really doesnt seem to do much on the business side of the berrics...
Nah we can bring Koston in on this. He is more MONEY HUNGERS than the lot *nike,jessup,oakley*
Like P-Rod (markisa, forecast, proof, Primitive) Berra is trying to build an empire for his friends to come up, Not solely makin money for himself, AND I RESPECT THAT SIDE.
I Am all for the come up Let us all make some Loot off this shit, I like you Berra. But just like the GREEN movement,
Talk is Cheap, Motherfuckers keep telling others to support it and bring the topic up often to be associated with the Positive side of it.
Fuck ALL of you companies laying in bed with Execs. Do something REAL for the skateshops. Jus trying walking into one of these independent shops you guys.... I HOPE HOPE the sound of the crickets and the Buzzing lights (I AM HEARING CURRENTLY) will help you guys reconsider your strategy to "SUPPORT" us.
But ya'll Making million dollar deals without us in mind... And I know NONE of you are going to change. So.just.ANOTHER.useless.rant.
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http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/steve-berra.html
looks like berra has been slacking in his courses, hasn't completed one since 2005
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Still no shops on Norcal. This shit is an epic fail.
No man. That is an epic win. So a skateshop from Nor Cal pays the $300 a month to advertise on the berrics. Thats the minimum, so anybody from Nor Cal goes to the berrics site will see the shop's banner. Granted if they pay more, a larger geographic region will see the banner. But if they pay the minimum then only skaters in the shop's geographic region will see the banner. Hence the different options the berrics offers. This implys a couple things. First the berrics could turn into a Nor Cal whore if all the shops want to advertise on the berrics then the berrics will turn into this newspaper, yellow pages, craigslist sort of shit, with hella banners, for those who log in from that geographic region, will be the only ones to see it. But you can always pay more per month to cover a larger geographic region. Second if a shop is already involved in their scene then there is no need to advertise on the berrics, and pay money, for your local kids to go online in that geographic area and see the shop advertising on the berrics. If you're already involved in the scene, have your own website, blog, demos, skate functions, parties, video premiers, ect. ect. then paying to advertise on the berrics is a waste of fucking money. The whole thing is a scam, and way to trick little kids who don't know jack shit, and paint Mr. Fake Spot as a god. I don't like typing serious shit, hope that clears up what this is all about. I might of worded that wrong, let me know. And Props on all the photoshopping shit is hilarious!
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so the berrics unified is something berra learned to do through scientology? like make up "great offers" that lure people into spending money on nothing
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Man that was bad. Small businesses being taxed to death at the state and federal level? Is that supposed to make him sound smart?
And then to find out he's trying to tax these shops at The Berrics level as well. You pay me and I'll say your cool... what a piece of shit! Sounds like the exact opposite of a goodwill gesture to me.
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
Ahahah great photoshop. Classic. Here's one I just did:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/SaintBerra.jpg)
This is why i love slap
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so the berrics unified is something berra learned to do through scientology? like make up "great offers" that lure people into spending money on nothing
Have you ever heard of Scientology centers luring depressed and unsatisfied people in for free "personality tests" that include questions designed for people to fail like "Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Capacity_Analysis
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advertising on this website is not what is stupid here... if berra was honest and said...."we need the cash to keep this site and place going... buy some banner space that would be one thing.
but he is so misleading..... especially to the kids that check his site.
i'm glad he's getting called out.
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dan... weclome to winter????
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So I've been thinking a lot about all of this.
You guys are right.
Fuck this.
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Fuck this.
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Fuck Berra and L. Ron.
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The Berrics has sunk to West49's/Zumiez level. Berra, you fucked up.
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everyone should've already known he was a douche from this:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=288 (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=288)
which lead to this:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=319 (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=319)
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ive always known this dude sucked, this just gives me yet another reason. fuck steve berra.
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The first profile is on Dave Ashleys shop. :-X
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1511 (http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1511)
we carry Emerica, Etnies, Lakai, Dekline......................................................................and Converse.
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Does Assley carry Darkstar?
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(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5016/odell.jpg)
when you have o'dell making fun of you, you fucked up. that guy seems to love everyone. but you REALLY fucked up when theotis is making fun of you. i want to know his take on this.
everyone should've already known he was a douche from this:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=288 (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=288)
which lead to this:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=319 (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=319)
i've never seen this before. that's a little extreme of berra; mark's original video didn't seem like he was being too serious. although i'd side with mark, he is canadian. ::)
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I don't hate Berra, but its these little addresses he gives are funny. Its like he thinks he is the president of skateboarding.
I'm convinced Steve Berra's a Methhead. He's so intense on these videos!
He is one, alright. Idea is pretty tight though good for him on that
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advertisings not bad and is actaully pretty cheep
berra's pitch was vomit inducing and wreaked of scientology packaging
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The first profile is on Dave Ashleys shop. :-X
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1511 (http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1511)
we carry Emerica, Etnies, Lakai, Dekline......................................................................and Converse.
I have a pair of Converse All Stars, they're amazing!
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looks like Anonymous Content might be running out of money...they laid off some folks about a year ago:
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/manager-layoffs-at-anonymous-content/
I always wondered why they needed like 9 literary agents in LA alone...
What do you think is more profitable--making commercials for Lexus and Nike or funding a private skateboarding social club?
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The Berrics has sunk to West49's/Zumiez level. Berra, you fucked up.
Yeah, aren't they the shops with empty history that he was preaching against in his video? Steve Berra is a fucking 2 face that intimidated kids with big words and dramatic lighting so they eat up all his bullshit. Fuck him and that site.
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The Berrics has sunk to West49's/Zumiez level. Berra, you fucked up.
Don't forget wearing that knit beanie and being unshaven to deliver the most important message the world has ever heard
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"the berrics is one of those ideas, and it's firing....like an AK 47"
sure is
(http://img4.tinypic.info/files/qsms4q458ylkv437w21l.jpg)
fuck you
Ahahah great photoshop. Classic. Here's one I just did:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/SaintBerra.jpg)
Priceless!
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The Berrics has sunk to West49's/Zumiez level. Berra, you fucked up.
Don't forget wearing that knit beanie and being unshaven to deliver the most important message the world has ever heard
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How come Active isn't supported though? They started out small just like any other shop no? And they give back to skateboarding by throwing demos and they actually have a team which is pretty solid. Just because theyre big doesn't mean their bad. Zumiez is whack tho
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u gotta remember that skateboarding isnt as "popular" as the other sports that people play and can make profit on like any store can sell a basketball or football thats exactly ehat hes tryin to prevent it from doin hes tryin to stop skateboarding rfom becoming some massivley owned company.
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The Berrics mail order that they have coming is going to take so much business from the core shops, just like zumiez and other lame shops. Im starting to dislike the berrics more and more.
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"NOW AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY IN CANADA AT WEST 49"
So when Berrics Unified expands to Canada will it too be exclusively West 49?
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"NOW AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY IN CANADA AT WEST 49"
So when Berrics Unified expands to Canada will it too be exclusively West 49?
Hopefully. Real shops should stay far away from this shit.
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"Shoot all skaters" is pretty lame, too.
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i remember when it was acceptable for a person over the age of 15 to wear a berrics tee..
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Remember the guy with the Berrics tattoo?? Bet he's starting to regret that one.
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the more and more i read about this shit, this shit is balls out regular. not even whats being posted on just this site but several others.
its clear that hes trying to make money, i'm not knocking him for that but consider this, if a bike shop that carries snowboards, rollerblades and skateboards signs up for this program, they'll be deemed "important" and they'll actually be labeled "core"....are you fucking kidding me?
also, i always thought a "favor" is suppose to be free.
if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
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http://haveboard.com/the_berrics_unified_pay_to_play/
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if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
^^the entire argument in twelve words. pay attention Berra. amongst all the irrelevant banter, this is what's most important for you to take away from all this.
...dick.
k
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"NOW AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY IN CANADA AT WEST 49"
So when Berrics Unified expands to Canada will it too be exclusively West 49?
Wow, that is fucking bullshit.
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first berra sucked erics dick
cause he wouldnt pick up his phone calls
he swallowed the jizz
got some spirit backk
went crack head hollywood
niggas beat him up took him in to scientology
hatched a million dollar money scheme
fucked goats in the armpit
laryngitis
fag fucked off got some dough created re hab for ex pros
fags like felix got off thinkin they relevant
suckered you in via vatb
vov at the verrics
not
played some games yall played it out
every pro there ever is now fag
gentlemens club of dick suckers
no one cares now
keep livin fantasy kid
rawb still stay real skatin ontario
gonna start up his own skate park
i hate narcs
so i take your design and copy it and make it better
for everyone not just rich fags
and take my hundreds
and buy a tactical nuke see how unified yall is now
im on a 25 + kill streak and not even 25
match over
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also, i always thought a "favor" is suppose to be free.
if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
Mocha Joe disagrees.
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charles manson was a scientologist too.
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charles manson was a scientologist too.
Though he was part of the Process Church, which is connected to Scientology?
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Berrics unified is to advertising as his dvs part is to skatespots.
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also, i always thought a "favor" is suppose to be free.
if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
Mocha Joe disagrees.
GNAR'D
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My sentiment's pretty much the same with everyone else.
1. Paying to make the "core shop" list is bullshit. Seems like the core shops will say fuck you Berra and the soft core shops with money will pay up, as the rich get richer (including Berra).
2. If you want to make some money off advertising from your successful website, cool. Just don't give us some on the brink of tears bullshit monologue about how you're down to sacrifice for local skate scenes.
The other hooey is Agah's bullshit sales pitch about "less than two dollars a day" being basically free. I can have a Kirby vacuum that'll last a lifetime for pennies a day too and I'm not buying that bullshit either. If that's the way it really works let shops do a trial month or two. If their business picks up then you're really helping them and they can pay you. If not then let folks drop it. Berra you wouldn't want core shops to piss away money that'll give mall shops a leg up would you?
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The Steve Berra Twitter updates which include attempts at talking to the female Cory Kennedy multiple times garnering no response and about how great he thinks he is:
# @Cory_Kennedy I'm on a lot of people's "kind of a letdown" list so don't take it personally. 11:50 PM Nov 14th from Echofon in reply to Cory_Kennedy
# @Cory_Kennedy (not the skater) is on my "you're kind of a letdown" list. Cory Kennedy the skater is on my "you're the future" list. 11:32 PM Nov 14th from Echofon in reply to Cory_Kennedy
# I want twitter to be a place where I don't showcase my sharp, wry humor ala Juno. I'm over the clever, beautiful, funny, amzing, steve berra 6:22 PM Oct 8th from web
# do you guys remember cabbage patch kids? do you know the guy's name who invented it? Steve Berra. 6:57 PM Sep 29th from web
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and berra's response with koston summing it up... (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1522)
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and berra's response with koston summing it up... (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1522)
Berra: "We're not trying to put shops (who don't sign up) out of business"
Koston: "If you don't like it; go fuck your face"
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finally, a reason to fuck my face
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and berra's response with koston summing it up... (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1522)
Hmmm. Is it really a good idea to tell the people who might have bought their boards to go fuck their faces?
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If that info should have been in the first video instead of "we're helping the small shops, the shops we list are the important ones"
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"what is geo-targeted advertising?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWupeemOOR4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWupeemOOR4)
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I had a guy tell me to go fuck my face once.
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9383/krupke.jpg)
He went to jail.
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street is over
no more roots or culture
just straight played now
thats why berra makin mall shops big
skate parks bigger and more
doesnt skate street any more just builds his own spots
trying to change the industry up on everyone
make it all geared toward park and contest bullshit again
take it away from the essence
to be the first one on the scene
to get the most money out of it
so he can live bomb
and we all get booted crazy
fuck that douche bag
no one gave a fuck about him when his mosaic part dropped
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Wow, no wonder Michigan sucks, apparently there's not one fucking skateshop here.
theres a ton, queef bearhug is just an idiot
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and berra's response with koston summing it up... (http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1522)
Koston: "If you don't like it; go fuck your face"
A great moment in biz dev. "The Canteen is going to expand to sell more goods online so your local shop has to compete with us, the biggest, #1 visited skateboarding site out there." Go fuck YOUR face Borrics.
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if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
^^the entire argument in twelve words. pay attention Berra. amongst all the irrelevant banter, this is what's most important for you to take away from all this.
...dick.
k
Offering a product for less than market value is also a way to hook good people up. IE inexpensive advertising on skateboarding's most trafficed website.
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Wow, Koston sucks.
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if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
^^the entire argument in twelve words. pay attention Berra. amongst all the irrelevant banter, this is what's most important for you to take away from all this.
...dick.
k
Offering a product for less than market value is also a way to hook good people up. IE inexpensive advertising on skateboarding's most trafficed website.
username Celebrity Centre (http://scientology.cc/en_US/index.html) defending berra? does it get anymore transparent?
i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics. maybe i'm being suspicious, but it's a well known fact that they make themselves involved in their member's affairs, especially if those members are making bank (like borra).
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I noticed that as well. Is that you Borra?
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OKay, well That video clarified it a bit for me so it definitely does make a little bit more sense but he forgot to mention that shops do have websites, and if there is a "core" shop then there is also usually a good and tight-knit scene to support it. With that scene typically comes blogs and other websites and local board companies and shit that typically have links to the shop's website and such which support their shop so this unified deal isn't completely necessary but I could see how it would help if the said shop had an online store or something that could be supported via the added online traffic. But how many people in their state don't know where the good shop is to go to that would go on the Berrics? I am guessing not many which leads me right back to thinking that this "Berrics Unified" is close to worthless (unless you have a good online store as I mentioned before). He must've heard what everyone has been saying because this video was a lot less intense, Koston at the end gave me a little bit of a chuckle too.
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sorry about that essay I just wrote by the way.
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if you're charging for a favor then its actually called a "service".
^^the entire argument in twelve words. pay attention Berra. amongst all the irrelevant banter, this is what's most important for you to take away from all this.
...dick.
k
Offering a product for less than market value is also a way to hook good people up. IE inexpensive advertising on skateboarding's most trafficed website.
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i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics.
Absolutely none.
And attacking someone's religion is a pretty low blow. In typical Slap fashion when confronted with a good argument you hit below the belt.
Make up your minds. People on here are always saying Scientology is about making money. Then why would scientology be interested in a skatepark that costs $75,000 a month to operate, offers free content, and less than low cost advertising.
The industry norm is to offer incentives to shops who buy in bulk, for example mall shops and mail orders. The Berrics is offering incentives for small skater owned/operated shops.
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i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics.
Absolutely none.
And attacking someone's religion is a pretty low blow. In typical Slap fashion when confronted with a good argument you hit below the belt.
Make up your minds. People on here are always saying Scientology is about making money. Then why would scientology be interested in a skatepark that costs $75,000 a month to operate, offers free content, and less than low cost advertising.
The industry norm is to offer incentives to shops who buy in bulk, for example mall shops and mail orders. The Berrics is offering incentives for small skater owned/operated shops.
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i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics.
Absolutely none.
And attacking someone's religion is a pretty low blow. In typical Slap fashion when confronted with a good argument you hit below the belt.
Make up your minds. People on here are always saying Scientology is about making money. Then why would scientology be interested in a skatepark that costs $75,000 a month to operate, offers free content, and less than low cost advertising.
The industry norm is to offer incentives to shops who buy in bulk, for example mall shops and mail orders. The Berrics is offering incentives for small skater owned/operated shops.
sounds like someone has a vested interest.
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i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics.
Absolutely none.
And attacking someone's religion is a pretty low blow. In typical Slap fashion when confronted with a good argument you hit below the belt.
Make up your minds. People on here are always saying Scientology is about making money. Then why would scientology be interested in a skatepark that costs $75,000 a month to operate, offers free content, and less than low cost advertising.
The industry norm is to offer incentives to shops who buy in bulk, for example mall shops and mail orders. The Berrics is offering incentives for small skater owned/operated shops.
If you don't like what we're saying, you can go fuck your face.
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If you don't think advertising on The Berrics is a good return on your investment, then don't do it.
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berrics is just 1 more step to street being done
kids dont care about street spots no more
normal people dont want you in street spots
lets just go to some corralled in spot where everyone wants us to be
sick
fuck that aspect of skating lets just drop it
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Berra is a Scientologist... The Berrics is scamming skate shops... The Berrics is killing street skating... You guys are reaching. Slap has a mob mentality and for some stupid reason The Berrics didn't make the cool list. Even though every one of you probably frequents the site.
Another aspect of Berrics Unified all you 13 year old internet geniuses don't take into account is Field Ops. Say Berrics goes and does a Field Ops on a shop. They live in Philedelphia, so they fly out there, with two filmers, get hotels, have to rent a car, have to pay for food. That’s about, on the cheap side, a $2500 expense, just to go out and do a Field Ops on the shop that paid $1280 to get tens of thousands of dollars worth of advertising for an entire year. So… Berrics takes a $1250 hit or more by doing this, and this is even the time spent filming.
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We know it's you Borra!
Heavy? What I wouldn't give to know what heavy felt like, you insensitive prick!
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yeah hardly an expense when you are making a mil per year off advertising and all sorts of other shit
dude is a crook bottom line,
fag found out he was washed up and needed to cash in the lamest way possible
get off his (or your own im not really sure) pussy(not dick cause you are too fag for that)
most kids have to go otu and film a part and deal with gettin kicked out
this ninja just throws down like 20 grand to build a spot so he can film some gay ass video part that sucks
fakie flip fucking noseslide
and then demolsihes it at the end so no one else can get footy there
fuck that
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Hahaa! Come on haters! What the fuck is wrong with Berrics guys doing this? It's a commercial site, advertising there costs money. No big deal. That how the world goes round if you haven't notice. Are you guys commies or something? That was tested a few year back in a big country in east. I didn't work. Up for round2?
There are far more worst things in skateboarding than Berrics and their Unified program. This is skaters doing something for skaters. I think that's just a good thing. The shit's in our hands. And I hope that Celebrity Centre is Berra 'cause then you see the man cares - not every company owner comes here to tell you what's up. Some of them don't even know that this boards exists and that's not a good thing.
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I wonder if people on here would have began to think that your scheme is a rip off if you hadn't made those creepy videos with you trying to sound sincere. Like, they were all retardedly dramatic, and filled with complete bullshit, and everyone knows that you're an actor and that you haven't put out a legitimate part in years (do you even ever skate outside of your trillion dollar park?); all of these things make your average skateboarder suspicious when you claim you're trying to save this or that aspect of skateboarding. And for better or worse, the whole Scientology thing doesn't help either (no Scientologist should ever expect to be taken at their word ever--your whole craze is a big secret and kooks like Tom Cruise blew the fuck out of your spot hahahahaha). Oh, and the Berrics sucks anyway. It's a fucking skatepark--it will always look and be wack and boring compared to real skating (go in the videos/photos thread and read about how psyched kids are on Pat Burke's mob kickflip for an example of skaters appreciating something real and sick; you'd probably take an extra week of filming--alone, in the dark--your kickflip bs tailslide on the obstacle that you built specifically for that trick if that's what it took to do it 'clean' and for your Battle Kookmander to come out perfectly). And fuck the cost of operating that place. I'd much rather have that place be bulldozed than have to listen to a dude who lives in the Hollywood hills or wherever bitch about how much he gives and gives, when in fact he's just trying to start some wackass cash cow and become the next Brad Dorfman or whatever. I say all this because, again, I think you're a wack skater and I would like to see your particular brand of skating go by the wayside.
Oh, and welcome to Slap. I'm willing to bet that you've been sweating this place for fucking ever, so kudos for actually going ahead and getting an account.
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1) As noted multiple times throughout this thread, this would have been OK if Berra had been up front about this in the first place.
2) Concealing business incentives as altruism is not OK.
3) To act like a little baby when someone calls bullshit on your little plan is not OK: the video they put up now is just dumb.
4) This has nothing to do with Berra being a scientologist, this has to do with Berra thinking that he is smarter than most people. Which is also dumb.
5) Bleh.
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fuck salman agah.
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They just posted a "More About Berrics Unified" video.
It would have been nice if they had said it in the first place.
"And if your not into our shit, go fuck your face" -Koston
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Berra is a Scientologist... The Berrics is scamming skate shops... The Berrics is killing street skating... You guys are reaching. Slap has a mob mentality and for some stupid reason The Berrics didn't make the cool list. Even though every one of you probably frequents the site.
Another aspect of Berrics Unified all you 13 year old internet geniuses don't take into account is Field Ops. Say Berrics goes and does a Field Ops on a shop. They live in Philedelphia, so they fly out there, with two filmers, get hotels, have to rent a car, have to pay for food. That’s about, on the cheap side, a $2500 expense, just to go out and do a Field Ops on the shop that paid $1280 to get tens of thousands of dollars worth of advertising for an entire year. So… Berrics takes a $1250 hit or more by doing this, and this is even the time spent filming.
What tipped you off, Mr. Berra? Was it thread titles like "wot is t3h bestest sk8 toolz"? Why not take the advice of your sage-like business partner and "go fucka yor face".
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berra convinced me this is actually legit
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whether it is or not, you don't just say call your own site the most popular visited skateboarding site on the internet. Ya just don't do that. But then again scientologists never were about being modest.
i kinda giggled when i saw that more half the states on there were still at 0
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All things being equal, it bums me out whenever someone uses the strawman argument of "all SLAP posters being 13 years old." Now, I don't really have an emotional investment in what gets said about SLAP users anyways, but there are plenty of posters here who are actually mature, intelligent adults who love skateboarding and have informed opinions to share. There are plenty of posters on this site who are complete wastes of space, but not everyone is a trend-hopping illiterate hater. Of course this will fall on deaf ears because it's easier to stereotype us all thinking the same exact way (with the heroic COTG serving as our foil), but the diversity of viewpoints represented here is much greater than we're given credit for.
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Berra is a Scientologist... The Berrics is scamming skate shops... The Berrics is killing street skating... You guys are reaching. Slap has a mob mentality and for some stupid reason The Berrics didn't make the cool list. Even though every one of you probably frequents the site.
Another aspect of Berrics Unified all you 13 year old internet geniuses don't take into account is Field Ops. Say Berrics goes and does a Field Ops on a shop. They live in Philedelphia, so they fly out there, with two filmers, get hotels, have to rent a car, have to pay for food. That’s about, on the cheap side, a $2500 expense, just to go out and do a Field Ops on the shop that paid $1280 to get tens of thousands of dollars worth of advertising for an entire year. So… Berrics takes a $1250 hit or more by doing this, and this is even the time spent filming.
yeah but it`s not like you`re visiting each shop every year and not every second year neither. your example does`t work.
also i guess you hope for every shop and their mother to sign up, which i guess if it worked out, would make much more money than one big advertiser. You don`t even need 200 shops to sign up (berrics unified international coming soon, right?) to make quite some extra money on the $75.000 monthly.
i think it`s a pretty good idea that could benefit everybody involved, but goddamn, those videos are terrible.
the best thing in this drama is watsons jesus, so good!
the worst thing is salman agah.
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Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!
Why does the borrics need to send filmers to make the shop checkout videos? pretty much every town has 20 kids that film and are capable of making decent videos.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Centre
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Of all the people in the industry to hate, Salman shouldn't even be on your radar. Anyone who knows him knows he's a stand up guy. And a living legend.
And are you seriously going to say that my 13 year old comment on here is somehow offensive? I know there's grown ups on here and I'm no little kid myself. I've broken my ankle 3 times and had it reconstructed once. I've broken both wrists 4 times each as well as my cheek, finger, thumb, front teeth and left metatarsal.
But all that aside, my arguments hold up and The Berrics Unified is a legit way to help small shops increase their market.
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What is involved in healing a broken cheekbone???
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Centre
Beaten to it.
I also found it funny Berra how you took the liberty to say you have nothing against mall shops, and talk about leveling the playing field. Of course you have nothing against Zumiez, West 49, or any other mall brand shop. They sell shit from the Berrics. Slowly killing the core shops that you want to help.
Bottom line is that anyone who would reasonably pick up a board knows where their local shop is. Is it really going to bring in that much more revenue honestly? Not only that much more revenue, but they'd have to sell X amount of boards, shoes, or misc. skateboard equipment just to break back even with the contract, then have to sell X amount of amount of boards, shoes, or misc. skateboard equipment just to start getting in the +. I think its a bit naive to expect local skaeshops to get enough money back as to where it would be relevant.
I like the idea you had in mind. Nobody cares about the Berrics bringing in money. The execution is just garbage to be honest.
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But all that aside, my arguments hold up and The Berrics Unified is a legit way to help small shops increase their market.
im not sure how many times this has to be driven through your thick skull...small shops cant afford five g's for your stupid program
your arguments suck
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Of all the people in the industry to hate, Salman shouldn't even be on your radar. Anyone who knows him knows he's a stand up guy. And a living legend.
And are you seriously going to say that my 13 year old comment on here is somehow offensive? I know there's grown ups on here and I'm no little kid myself. I've broken my ankle 3 times and had it reconstructed once. I've broken both wrists 4 times each as well as my cheek, finger, thumb, front teeth and left metatarsal.
But all that aside, my arguments hold up and The Berrics Unified is a legit way to help small shops increase their market.
from the youwillsoon post on the first berrics unified post
"Watson said...
Fuck dude I just read those comments from Salman. Really disappointed. It takes a pretty low level of integrity and intelligence to rely on homophobia when arguing with someone. What if that Steve Miller who ran Exit skateshop WAS actually gay and "waxed his cock duster moustache" or whatever it said? Does that mean Berra's no longer a douche? No."
and why are you talking about broken bones? i would rather hear an apology to all the shops that you decided to decree as "unimportant." I know you made that somewhat redeeming More On the Berrics Unified video, but if you're going to take the time to make a video even slightly based on all the people calling your idea out, at least be thorough and man up your wrongful approach. this is a good idea, most people i think are just bummed on your high-horsed, overdramatic, misleading approach. step down to our tier and look at yourself, and how bogus you're appearing.
selling and expanding the product in your online shop is cool, most other shops/companies would do the same. i see no wrong there, for now.
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i would be VERY interested in knowing just how much involvement scientology has with the berrics.
Absolutely none.
And attacking someone's religion is a pretty low blow. In typical Slap fashion when confronted with a good argument you hit below the belt.
Make up your minds. People on here are always saying Scientology is about making money. Then why would scientology be interested in a skatepark that costs $75,000 a month to operate, offers free content, and less than low cost advertising.
The industry norm is to offer incentives to shops who buy in bulk, for example mall shops and mail orders. The Berrics is offering incentives for small skater owned/operated shops.
fuck you borra
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This all comes down to the delivery, not the program itself. Yes Berra is now admitting it cost money, and honestly it isn't THAT much money. But the first video gave the impression they were covering it up...and I wonder if the second video would have been made if the first hadn't got the original negative reaction.
And I still don't understand why a listing can't be free? Sure area specific advertising can, and probably should, cost money. But go back to Berra's own example of the phonebook. If you want an ad in the phonebook you have to pay extra. BUT...every shop with a phone number will get a listing in the phonebook for no extra cost. Why not list all the shops and let those with more money pay extra for the advertising?? That would be a very fair program as it wouldn't exclude ANY local shop...but allow those who are willing to put in extra have the advertising they feel they can afford.
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why don't you list all the skateshops like a directory (even plain old tws style -this would actually be a unification). then have the one's that pay a fee have banners and popups/whatever? - this "advertising" then is more of an option and not singling out most of the shops who still support the community just don't want to pay for advertising.
i do believe borra is trying to do good here, and trying to make some money to support the site (nothing wrong with that) but i can't see why everyone can't be recognized even if they don't want a banner on the site.
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Fuck dude I just read those comments from Salman. Really disappointed. It takes a pretty low level of integrity and intelligence to rely on homophobia when arguing with someone. What if that Steve Miller who ran Exit skateshop WAS actually gay and "waxed his cock duster moustache" or whatever it said? Does that mean Berra's no longer a douche? No."
I'm not condoning homophobia on any level but that seems like a pretty minor infraction. It's more of a goofy term for a mustache than a direct assault on someone's sexuality.
And its funny how once you dislike someone you become the PC police. Slurs on sexuality get thrown around here like nothing and as long as it's coming from someone you agree with it's accepted.
Another bit of irony here is calling out someone on homophobia but letting religious intolerance fly. That's something both Salman and I deal with regularly and no one here seems to take offense.
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borra what do you think of my post?
and jeremyrandalls?
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The one about Josh Bagel is one of my favorite.
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The one about Josh Bagel is one of my favorite.
A Bagel battle commonder would hopefully elevate him to the am/pro status he rightfully deserves.
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The one about Josh Bagel is one of my favorite.
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
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dude, you`re taking the video too serious. the berrics is a business and berra is not really jesus.
And its funny how once you dislike someone you become the PC police. Slurs on sexuality get thrown around here like nothing and as long as it's coming from someone you agree with it's accepted.
around here those comments come from the 13 year olds, obviously. salman agah is a grown ass man though, haha
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Being involved in a shop and already being signed up might change my opinion, or maybe mine is just different than everyone elses, but I think its a great program. The Berrics is fucking huge and every kid with the internet that skateboards goes on the site or at least knows about it. Most people only have 1 or 2 skate shops within an hours drive and this means there are a lot of people ordering online. I see kids come in the shop AT LEAST once a week and their parents tell me they "saw our website" and the kids just had to come check out the shop even though it was an hour drive. Imagine if kids like this saw our site on the fucking berrics??? One new kid a month pays the monthly bill, and we get some exposure/business. And not only that, but we're helping pay for something really sick in skateboarding, which is constant free content of everyones favorite pros online. Just my side of the story. Yeah, I get it though, Berra definitely comes off as a greedy prick.
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Berra is still team mates with Kerry, so I'm guessing that Nocturnal gets preferential treatment over other Philadelphia shops. How does the pop up advertising system work if more than one shop in one state signs up? Do they increase the price per shop?
Assuming everyone on here is a hateful "13 year old" is both weak and stupid, considering that your key market is middle class 13-year-olds. And that the medium age here (of regular posters) is around the early 20s. Having Eric Koston basically supersede what took you two over-acted videos to convey with "go fuck your face" has left me goggle-eyed and speechless. That is the most primitive of the "join us or die!" ultimatums. But it also has that "let them eat cake" aspect to it. Why try and scare small businesses? Don't they have a special marketing E-meter?
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This is gonna be an on going argument for the next century if people don't just shut up. does this even matter? go skateboard
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for real, true shredders don't even have time to post on the internet cuz it's on the next trick in the line!
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It always bothered me the way Berra would say "may God have mercy on your souls". I'm not religious, but isn't it condescending to use the god of a different religion than your own for a game of SKATE? I mean, he plays with other religious icons (all the pentagram/Neckface stuff) then says "don't have a go at my 'religion'. Scientology was in the news just the other night. Apparently apart from being a pay to play social club, they also intimidate members who leave the church. Some method of blacklisting and oft outright threats at those who speak out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZujb23cwX0
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ALL RIGHT, I will GO FUCK MYSELF, not like theres a bunch of other skate companies to support, fucking kook.
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It always bothered me the way Berra would say "may God have mercy on your souls".
Man if that's always bothered you I actually feel kind of sorry for you. You're a seriously sensitive dude.
And as for the 13 year old comment so far it's the only thing on here people have been able to take shots at me about. So OK, that wasn't exactly scientific. You got me. But with all the stupidity that goes on here I think it's a better end of the stick coming off as 13, then bragging you're a grown man who comes off as 13.
Whatever though, at the end of the day I'm a skater. For 23 years. I do my best in the other projects I've got my hand in but I still see the world through the lens of a skate rat.
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EH FUCK OFF CALLING PEOPLE STUPID
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=population+of+the+world&aq=0&oq=population+of+the&aqi=g10
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Man if that's always bothered you I actually feel kind of sorry for you. You're a seriously sensitive dude.
And as for the 13 year old comment so far it's the only thing on here people have been able to take shots at me about. So OK, that wasn't exactly scientific. You got me. But with all the stupidity that goes on here I think it's a better end of the stick coming off as 13, then bragging you're a grown man who comes off as 13.
Whatever though, at the end of the day I'm a skater. For 23 years. I do my best in the other projects I've got my hand in but I still see the world through the lens of a skate rat.
Irony
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what happened to koston's old catch phrase "keep it cool"
was way less aggro and...um..let's see...how shall i put this...in-your-face (?)
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has everyone forgotten that koston is a part of this as well?
"go fuck your face"?
im disappointed in you mr. koston. what happened?
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And as for the 13 year old comment so far it's the only thing on here people have been able to take shots at me about. So OK, that wasn't exactly scientific. You got me. But with all the stupidity that goes on here I think it's a better end of the stick coming off as 13, then bragging you're a grown man who comes off as 13.
Whatever though, at the end of the day I'm a skater. For 23 years. I do my best in the other projects I've got my hand in but I still see the world through the lens of a skate rat.
Wanna stop ignoring my legitimate question??
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It always bothered me the way Berra would say "may God have mercy on your souls".
Man if that's always bothered you I actually feel kind of sorry for you. You're a seriously sensitive dude.
And as for the 13 year old comment so far it's the only thing on here people have been able to take shots at me about. So OK, that wasn't exactly scientific. You got me. But with all the stupidity that goes on here I think it's a better end of the stick coming off as 13, then bragging you're a grown man who comes off as 13.
Whatever though, at the end of the day I'm a skater. For 23 years. I do my best in the other projects I've got my hand in but I still see the world through the lens of a skate rat.
So no explanation for Eric's parting "go fuck your face" thing? Because I was thinking of having T-shirts printed up... no wait, you should totally do that! I would definitely buy like 3. You could use the head shot form when he had Carrol hair (Yeah Right era) and have a speech bubble in that Crailtap font. :D
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has everyone forgotten that koston is a part of this as well?
"go fuck your face"?
im disappointed in you mr. koston. what happened?
That shit was random and uncalled for.
"Join us errrrr die!!!!!!!"
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It always bothered me the way Berra would say "may God have mercy on your souls".
Man if that's always bothered you I actually feel kind of sorry for you. You're a seriously sensitive dude.
And as for the 13 year old comment so far it's the only thing on here people have been able to take shots at me about. So OK, that wasn't exactly scientific. You got me. But with all the stupidity that goes on here I think it's a better end of the stick coming off as 13, then bragging you're a grown man who comes off as 13.
Whatever though, at the end of the day I'm a skater. For 23 years. I do my best in the other projects I've got my hand in but I still see the world through the lens of a skate rat.
Sensitive? You just called a 13 year old stupid. You just said bragging is stupid. Your last paragraph you fucking brag. I put the google link to the population of the world, because you are a fucking egotistical maniac. CHECK YOUR FUCKING SELF STUPID ASS!!!!!
Why do and your friends keep acting like it's such a fucking privilege to be homies with you? What makes you so goddam more fucking special than the 6,692,030,277 goddam people that live on this fucking planet?!?!?!? You are KOOKING IT DUDE. STOP
Make things right, oh holy than thou GOD you and Koston tell everyone you fucking are. Keep telling us dude.
Keep telling the customers, what is right.
Keep fucking smiling, and calling everyone kooks. SEE WHAT HAPPENS
You and Koston and your guy's fucking sponsors film some skate videos, go on tour, because that is your job. Goddam I hope it's fucking sinking in for you and Koston, and your friends.
Even a non skateboarder would see how UN-GNAR you fucks are acting. Pretty boys....
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"NOW AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY IN CANADA AT WEST 49"
So when Berrics Unified expands to Canada will it too be exclusively West 49?
BERRA CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS ?
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you guys are trying to troll koston into the froum too, right?
Celebrity Centre, i really dislike the military theme of the berrics. are there any plans about changing the motto?
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How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
How about instead of avoiding the question, you give us a fair answer. I haven't made any personal attacks on you. What do you think about making a free directory for all shops...while allowing those who can afford to pay your fees (which do seem pretty fair) for extra area specific advertising?
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"NOW AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY IN CANADA AT WEST 49"
So when Berrics Unified expands to Canada will it too be exclusively West 49?
BERRA CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS ?
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I'd like to know as well.
Berra in the video says he doesn't have a problem with mall shops, but yet and still shouldn't that be a little disturbing?
"Celebrity Centre" you don't think its a little counter-intuitive to sell Berrics stuff in West 49 and the wax in Zumiez?
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Celebrity Centre,
aside from paying the fees, is there any other qualifications or a background check a shop must meet (i.e. being skater ran, "legit," etc) or is it just anyone who pays?
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steve, i am honored that you would recognize my post as the only legitimate "shot" where someone managed to "get you" out of his whole 10 page clusterfuck. my gripe wasn't even specific to what you posted, but in annoys me in general that my viewpoint (and other civil posters) gets mushed together with all these fools who sound like they're excited to learn some naughty words. sometimes i question why i read this board, with all the shit you have to wade through, but i know of no better gathering of skate nerds with encyclopedic knowledge to learn from, so it's all worth it when those good posts happen.
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Sure there's a handful of interesting ideas here and there but try sorting them out from all the cheap shots and half truths. Like the merit scholar who posted the Wikipedia link about the Celebrity Centre. The irony there is I haven't even stepped foot in a Celebrity Centre in over 3 years but it's still what people choose to focus on.
The constructive stuff in here will surely be discussed by the people who need to discuss it, but I don't think it's unreasonable for that not to happen in a public forum.
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http://boiltheocean.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/steve-berra-thinks-your-taxes-are-too-high-dudes/
http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/11/unified-theory-of-bullshit.html
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Sure there's a handful of interesting ideas here and there but try sorting them out from all the cheap shots and half truths. Like the merit scholar who posted the Wikipedia link about the Celebrity Centre. The irony there is I haven't even stepped foot in a Celebrity Centre in over 3 years but it's still what people choose to focus on.
The constructive stuff in here will surely be discussed by the people who need to discuss it, but I don't think it's unreasonable for that not to happen in a public forum.
Why shouldn't it happen in a public forum?? Sure there are alot of loudmouths here...but there are also alot of us who really care about skateboarding. But we aren't in any kind of position to do much about it. You are...and you definitely like to act like you have skateboarding's best interest at heart. Why wouldn't you want to hear the opinions of the people who actually pay for the skateboarding industry to exist??
Also...if you were to read the comments from the majority of us...myself included...you would find our problem was not so much with your program as with your presentation of it. So being open and honest with us about it would probably be the best thing to help sway our perceptions. Instead you avoid questions which definitely leaves the impression you have something to hide.
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has everyone forgotten that koston is a part of this as well?
"go fuck your face"?
im disappointed in you mr. koston. what happened?
eh...we deserve it.
GIVE US HELL, KOSTON!!!
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Celebrity Centre,
aside from paying the fees, is there any other qualifications or a background check a shop must meet (i.e. being skater ran, "legit," etc) or is it just anyone who pays?
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the whole thing reminds of a fake free porn site. you click the link thinking you're gonna see the goods instead you get hit with that bullshit....
...you gotta register first, please enter your card card information... ::)
after watching the new video clip hes absolutely right, print ads do cost more to run and it should....considering the internet is free and the other shit is printed on paper! sooo moving right along....
i watched the video and it makes more sense now...sort of.
in the first video he tried to come across like he was reaching his hand out in friendship to help all the shops, instead he came across like he was reaching his hand out to dip in their pockets. i guess thats how things come across when you beat around the bush. we'll just call that a lesson learned.
so anyway, this time around he more or less said, it makes more sense to give me your money than anyone else, so why don't you give me your money. i mean, it ain't that slick but at least he was upfront about it.
and $75K a month! really? hes must have union guys over there or something? is he really trying to say he foots the entire bill himself? is he trying to convince us that none of his sponsors, not one company affiliated with the berrics has chips on flights, hotels, rental cars and all that other shit thats going on over there? not one dime from no one? i mean i see logos/banners both on his site and in his park, how does that work? i mean, no one is stupid enough to advertise for free, right? or is he?
its crazy to think if he can get about 1500 shops to spend $600 a year, he covered all his expenses($900K @ $75K a month) at the berrics and the rest would all go to his evil diabolical plan to take over the world! ahhh the brain himself would be proud, pinkie!
so in a nutshell, he wants the struggling shops that can't compete with the big boys to pay for him to keep the berrics going, so he can travel and skate for free, cover any and all expenses and all the while put money away for his retirement fund....oh and i forgot to include all his staff friends.
i get it now, you're running a business. why not be upfront about it? you still don't have any actual pricing on what it would cost? why make me go through that porn site crap i was talking about earlier? are you going to sell my info to west 49? zumiez? the penis enlargement company? what gives? just put that shit up there in black and white.....kind of like those print ads you said cost too much to run.
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Berrics gear @ W49 is fine. Berrics gear EXCLUSIVELY at W49 is T3h Sux0rz.
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sorry but this whole thing seems like an attempt for random people who have no lives to get attention. The Berrics is obviously the biggest skateboarding website in the world, and everybody knows it. so it would make sense to post about how gay it is to get people interested in seeing it to get views on your blog / try to be cool on message boards. Yeah you're a badass cause you're against something popular, give me a break. That is getting old.
Real skateboarders who care about skateboarding wouldn't pay attention to stupid things like this and pay more attention to their skateboard.
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The Berrics is obviously the biggest skateboarding website in the world, and everybody knows it.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theberrics.com
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/transworld.net
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.dansworld.com
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sorry but this whole thing seems like an attempt for random people who have no lives to get attention. The Berrics is obviously the biggest skateboarding website in the world, and everybody knows it. so it would make sense to post about how gay it is to get people interested in seeing it to get views on your blog / try to be cool on message boards. Yeah you're a badass cause you're against something popular, give me a break. That is getting old.
Real skateboarders who care about skateboarding wouldn't pay attention to stupid things like this and pay more attention to their skateboard.
i have nothing againts berra and i've said this numerous times throughout all his hate threads.
i'm only pointing out and showing my disapproval for how berra went about promoting his program, thats it.
the dudes that stay knocking him(or anyone else)for their religion is a whole other group and i take no part in that.
my post is telling it like it is, not tearing him down as a person. sorry if thats too real for you.
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the only reason i posted that celebrity centre wikipedia link on its own was to see if you'd automatically assume it was an insult, which you did. i googled it because you made it your damn screen name and i didn't know what a celebrity centre was, so don't complain about someone mentioning it in passing. i guess it's understandable with how much hate gets flung your way over the internet, but it really is funny how hyperdefensive you seem.
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Haha he's got a point borra.
Also you should prlly stay on and discuss some of the serious posts here.
Jamie thomas did that and ended up winning over most of his h8rz and now he's basically a regular slap pal.
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I don't hate Berra, but its these little addresses he gives are funny. Its like he thinks he is the president of skateboarding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRGUqd_M6Mg
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hahaha thats perfect
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the only reason i posted that celebrity centre wikipedia link on its own was to see if you'd automatically assume it was an insult, which you did. i googled it because you made it your damn screen name and i didn't know what a celebrity centre was, so don't complain about someone mentioning it in passing. i guess it's understandable with how much hate gets flung your way over the internet, but it really is funny how hyperdefensive you seem.
I chose my screen name to beat you cowards to the punch. I knew once I went against the Slap grain you'd resort to personal cheap shots anyway.
And I've got nothing to prove here. Everything I've said makes sense. The Berrics was created to help skateboarding in some way, to help people like Cory Kennedy and Josiah Gatlyn et al. I've put in 23 years. I know what it's like to live off $500 a month. I've gotten 65% use of my left arm (bet you didn't know that did you?).
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Wow, you wouldn't even know those 2 videos were for the same program, talk about polar opposites. Quick Steve, we've got to do some damage control, you still got that military jacket? I'll grab the camera...
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the only reason i posted that celebrity centre wikipedia link on its own was to see if you'd automatically assume it was an insult, which you did. i googled it because you made it your damn screen name and i didn't know what a celebrity centre was, so don't complain about someone mentioning it in passing. i guess it's understandable with how much hate gets flung your way over the internet, but it really is funny how hyperdefensive you seem.
I chose my screen name to beat you cowards to the punch. I knew once I went against the Slap grain you'd resort to personal cheap shots anyway.
And I've got nothing to prove here. Everything I've said makes sense. The Berrics was created to help skateboarding in some way, to help people like Cory Kennedy and Josiah Gatlyn et al. I've put in 23 years. I know what it's like to live off $500 a month. I've gotten 65% use of my left arm (bet you didn't know that did you?).
You know, you're right. I was not previously aware that your arm operates at a sub-optimal capacity. That is truly unfortunate, I wish you all the best in expanding your range of motion in the future. Did you have a nice Thanksgiving dinner today, Steve Berra?
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It will be interesting to see if advertising on the berrics will increase sales for the shops willing to pay. Kinda hard to tell with Christmas coming up. You would have to compare December 09 to December 08.
I would think a mom shopping for her kid would either google the shops name or look it up in the yellow pages.
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the only reason i posted that celebrity centre wikipedia link on its own was to see if you'd automatically assume it was an insult, which you did. i googled it because you made it your damn screen name and i didn't know what a celebrity centre was, so don't complain about someone mentioning it in passing. i guess it's understandable with how much hate gets flung your way over the internet, but it really is funny how hyperdefensive you seem.
I chose my screen name to beat you cowards to the punch. I knew once I went against the Slap grain you'd resort to personal cheap shots anyway.
And I've got nothing to prove here. Everything I've said makes sense. The Berrics was created to help skateboarding in some way, to help people like Cory Kennedy and Josiah Gatlyn et al. I've put in 23 years. I know what it's like to live off $500 a month. I've gotten 65% use of my left arm (bet you didn't know that did you?).
still avoiding the questions on free listings are you?
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from the youwillsoon post on the first berrics unified post
"Watson said...
Fuck dude I just read those comments from Salman. Really disappointed. It takes a pretty low level of integrity and intelligence to rely on homophobia when arguing with someone. What if that Steve Miller who ran Exit skateshop WAS actually gay and "waxed his cock duster moustache" or whatever it said? Does that mean Berra's no longer a douche? No."
and why are you talking about broken bones? i would rather hear an apology to all the shops that you decided to decree as "unimportant." I know you made that somewhat redeeming More On the Berrics Unified video, but if you're going to take the time to make a video even slightly based on all the people calling your idea out, at least be thorough and man up your wrongful approach. this is a good idea, most people i think are just bummed on your high-horsed, overdramatic, misleading approach. step down to our tier and look at yourself, and how bogus you're appearing.
selling and expanding the product in your online shop is cool, most other shops/companies would do the same. i see no wrong there, for now.
I'm not condoning homophobia on any level but that seems like a pretty minor infraction. It's more of a goofy term for a mustache than a direct assault on someone's sexuality.
And its funny how once you dislike someone you become the PC police. Slurs on sexuality get thrown around here like nothing and as long as it's coming from someone you agree with it's accepted.
Another bit of irony here is calling out someone on homophobia but letting religious intolerance fly. That's something both Salman and I deal with regularly and no one here seems to take offense.
i really could care less about slurs on homophobia and religious insults on this site, i don't partake myself but i figured it'd be uselss to get people like COTG to stop saying "faggot." i was only pointing out that a respected skateboarder like salman isn't much of a stand up guy if he's portraying himself in that way for many eyes to see, in the wrong context. i really have no idea what he said but i'm assuming it must've been lame if Watson was that bummed about it.
and i'm going to have to agree with some others in stating that you're missing out on answering some valid points here. instead of responding to what i said about you & the Berrics Unified, you defend the issue hardly anyone cares about. can you please respond to that, or give me a reason not to? instead of trying to prove how much you've given to skateboarding by breaking bones and having limited use of your arm.
we know you've given a lot, i visit the berrics frequently, any skateboarding is good skateboarding to me. it's when i feel skateboarding is getting disrespected by the those it has given the most to, and those in influential positions, that i become upset and question it.
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i really have no idea what he said but i'm assuming it must've been lame if Watson was that bummed about it.
Salman used the term cock duster to refer to a mustache. I guess cock duster must be Canadian for "faggot" or something esle haneusly homophobic instead of a goofy mustache term like it is in English. Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
"Say you'll give free advertising! Say it! Say it!" Alright Berrics staff--let's everyone get a Slap account and create a thread: Berrics Business Decisions.
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http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/?zx=45ce6cfd99651aa0
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
;) ~o0O LuVz yA! O0o~ :-*
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i really have no idea what he said but i'm assuming it must've been lame if Watson was that bummed about it.
Salman used the term cock duster to refer to a mustache. I guess cock duster must be Canadian for "faggot" or something esle haneusly homophobic instead of a goofy mustache term like it is in English. Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
"Say you'll give free advertising! Say it! Say it!" Alright Berrics staff--let's everyone get a Slap account and create a thread: Berrics Business Decisions.
Thank you for COMPLETELY avoiding answering the area I, and everyone else, have been inquiring you about and writing about the homophobic slurs when i just wrote above you that it was my area of least concern. I've been pretty civil with you, but I'm going to be one of those grown ass men and become up a 13-year-old for a moment and tell you to "Fuck your face, Steve Berra."
Oh shit, I didn't turn into a 13-year-old, I just turned into Eric Koston. Shit.
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Berra Vs. Watson is shaping up to be the most exciting matchup since Cole/Busenitz!
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i really have no idea what he said but i'm assuming it must've been lame if Watson was that bummed about it.
Salman used the term cock duster to refer to a mustache. I guess cock duster must be Canadian for "faggot" or something esle haneusly homophobic instead of a goofy mustache term like it is in English. Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
"Say you'll give free advertising! Say it! Say it!" Alright Berrics staff--let's everyone get a Slap account and create a thread: Berrics Business Decisions.
and by calling his moustache a cock duster, he's insinuating that he is having a penis close to his face, as to dust off with the moustache. not many straight men are willing to do that Steve. and what do you mean in English? Watson speaks english, do you mean in America? slow your roll champ, catch your breath, and create a good argument.
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Who gives a shit if you've 'put in' 23 years? So have the rest of us, for free. No one owes you anything. Like I said, you haven't even filmed a legit part in years; that's normally a necessary condition for a paycheck for most skaters. If skateboarding doesn't give enough back to you then grow up and get a real job instead of being a disgusting, disingenuous kook on whatever video that was where you gave your captain save-the-economy speech. And don't be mad that no one here buys your bullshit. It's actually crazy that you thought for one second that people on this board wouldn't see those videos and try and wreck you for them. I guess it just goes to show how out of touch you are.
Now please answer the gentleman's question about free listings for skate shops. In other words, please explicitly admit that the reason why you wouldn't do that kind of thing is because you can't make money doing it. (Which, by itself, wouldn't be a big deal, but when you consider how gross those videos are in light of your obviously self-interested motivations, well, you're just gross.)
And I don't know anything about this dude Watson but you're such a kook for talking shit to or about any skater anywhere. You have absolutely no room to do so.
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Good night everyone, I hope this thread is 10 pages longer when I wake up so I can continue to be entertained. You know Steve, back when I was watching you get decapitated in The End, I never imagined that I'd one day be arguing with you over the internet. Just goes to show you that dreams really do come true.
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Hey Steve, remember that time you pulled your car into your private skatepark, and you had one of your interns wash it for you? You're a real people's champ.
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Once you attack against slap pals, you know you are going down!
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
;) ~o0O LuVz yA! O0o~ :-*
You know that Watson considered you a childhood hero? And so did I for that matter. Calm down and that.
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Being involved in a shop and already being signed up might change my opinion, or maybe mine is just different than everyone elses, but I think its a great program. The Berrics is fucking huge and every kid with the internet that skateboards goes on the site or at least knows about it. Most people only have 1 or 2 skate shops within an hours drive and this means there are a lot of people ordering online. I see kids come in the shop AT LEAST once a week and their parents tell me they "saw our website" and the kids just had to come check out the shop even though it was an hour drive. Imagine if kids like this saw our site on the fucking berrics??? One new kid a month pays the monthly bill, and we get some exposure/business. And not only that, but we're helping pay for something really sick in skateboarding, which is constant free content of everyones favorite pros online. Just my side of the story. Yeah, I get it though, Berra definitely comes off as a greedy prick.
My shop was one of the first. We had ours finished about 3 months ago. As a shop that has been open for over 17 years I can tell you that multiple times a week new kids come in and say they found out about us from our website or from a guy at the park. They come in riding a board from Zumies and seem super bummed/psyched when they realize they had a choice, but didn't know it. We advertise in school papers and through flyers and have for plenty of years. We bring demos to town and have skate jams on a consistent basis and were a major part in getting our public parks built. That being said there are always kids they haven't heard of us and I am stunned by that. It's a new breed of young skater out there a lot of them want what they want when they want it and don't even support a shop 3 miles away because the internet is a click away. You can't even explain to them that they need to stand on a deck and compare shape and what not because they don't know we exist yet. And the kid behind the counter at Zumies sure doesn't care if the kids got 149s on a 7.5.
Funny thing is that when the Unified went live last week we started getting a few phone calls. Some were kids that knew us already and were hyped to see it, but some were kids in our city that had no idea we were here.
The Berrics doesn't make us legit...we do. I don't ever use the term "important" and I don't like that Berra did either, but we saw an opportunity to reach kids and it's off to a good start. We'll see where it goes from here.
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suspect ^^
Who gives a shit if you've 'put in' 23 years? So have the rest of us, for free. No one owes you anything. Like I said, you haven't even filmed a legit part in years; that's normally a necessary condition for a paycheck for most skaters. If skateboarding doesn't give enough back to you then grow up and get a real job instead of being a disgusting, disingenuous kook on whatever video that was where you gave your captain save-the-economy speech. And don't be mad that no one here buys your bullshit. It's actually crazy that you thought for one second that people on this board wouldn't see those videos and try and wreck you for them. I guess it just goes to show how out of touch you are.
Now please answer the gentleman's question about free listings for skate shops. In other words, please explicitly admit that the reason why you wouldn't do that kind of thing is because you can't make money doing it. (Which, by itself, wouldn't be a big deal, but when you consider how gross those videos are in light of your obviously self-interested motivations, well, you're just gross.)
And I don't know anything about this dude Watson but you're such a kook for talking shit to or about any skater anywhere. You have absolutely no room to do so.
Steve, please follow jrog's lead and get your fake spots, scientology, and over-dramatic cringe-inducing disingenuous kookery out of skateboarding. kthnxgofuckurface.
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still wondering whats up with the exclusive west 49 shit.
my local shop shut down cause of the west 49 built in the mall across the street from it. as the shop closed, west 49 hired more employees.
so wazz good borra?
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Wow, this thread has been an eye-opener. Bravo, Slap.
Salman and Koston acting like complete tools made me kind of sad, since they've been 2 of my favorite skaters for years, but that's nothing compared to the horror of Berra in full megalomania mode: the disingenuous bullshit called the "berrics unified"; the insults and self-aggrandizement that are his only response to legitimate criticism; torching the dude's skatebook; ranting against health reform on twitter, making a complete ass of himself here (note to Berra: consult Jamie and J. Craig for tips on handling yourself with class on Slap) and, finally, calling Scientology a "religion" and whining about "intolerance." Fucking embarrassing.
The Berrics, with its elitist, self-important, faux-military vibe has always rubbed me a little wrong, and Berra in particular has always seemed suspect, but the skate content is good & I always wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. The info in this thread has not only convinced me that I was kidding myself, but has caused me to vow never to visit the Berrics site ever again, in protest against anything helmed by this douchebag.
He and his kind are exactly what we need NOT to support in skateboarding.
Someone said many pages back that it's about "character" - that's exactly right. The dude has NONE.
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berra invited me and my homies to the game of skate finals at the berrics. hes tight in my book.
daygo dawgz
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I'm not going to hold his political beliefs(Health Reform) or Religious Beliefs(Scientology) against him because they are totally unrelated to skateboarding.
I like everybody else just want answers.
Why do the Berrics sell some clothing articles EXCLUSIVELY to a mall owned shop
Why don't you feel any ill will to mall shops when they are notorious for not knowing shit and making core shops go out of business? I'm relatively starting out, and I've learned so many thing's from my core shop. I couldn't for a second imagine my core shop, being replaced by a fuckinh Zumiez, Pac Sun, or West 49. I've been in those shops, and no Hardcore punk looking bitch is gonna pull the wool over my head just because He/She got tattoos and piercings. Yup, they must skate just because they all carry they same damn generic image. I bought the Fully Flared DVD from Zumiez. Bitch behind the registered said "What's that?" So I had to point the shit out behind the counter. ::) :P
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forget about the lame, generic little bit of everything people who work at mall stores... the more pressing issue is the corporate businessmen, making too much money and hurting small business owners in the process. we should not just "boycott" that zumies because it's a a lame place (it is) with lame workers (they are), or that kcdc/exit is cool and legit (they are). but that's not the most important point, which is, it would be very easy and probably very lucrative for some kook to buy up a lot of skateboarding's dollars in the very near future, and i GUESS i'd raher that kook be berra than some CEO who gives infinitely even less of a fuck about all our little concerns as skaters.
this whole issue - struggling, skater owned shops vs. mailorder companies vs. mall stores - is an important one that has been dramatically unaddressed by the industry. so i'm glad that, whatever his intentions were, berra has opened this dialogue and, as seen in his most recent video, seems to making progress towards a more honest conversation. i hope that slap does let loose all at once all of the vitriolic questions and feelings they've been building up for Mr. Steven Berra over the years, and i hope he handles it gracefully. probably not though, it'll prolly just fizzle out and not be much of anything one way or the other. hope not though.
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how much does it cost to be the "Best skate shop in texas"?
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I guess cock duster must be Canadian for "faggot" or something esle haneusly homophobic instead of a goofy mustache term like it is in English
"COCK DUSTER" does not sound like "hey, you've got a goofy mustache there buddy"
It does sound like "hey, youve got a big gay mo' and you suck dick faggot"
If its a saying, i've never heard of it...
Are you trying to invent sayings now Berra ?
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your not god
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people always fuckin say like "OH EVERYONE ON SLAP IS A HATER"
not even true at all
its just EVERYONE is hating on BERRICS UNITED because in reality it is just the wackest thing ever
slap is the fucking shit, it is whats up in the world today, and anyone who doesnt know that should die soon
You can find any thread and there is always two equal sides to every argument
fucking scumstache celebrity rehab money grab hollywood dust injection jizz tornado
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now all the "butteryass" borrics dockriders can get their favorite pro, eroc kostens pro brokley gear.
steve borra is sure looking out for those small skater owned companies
http://www.theberrics.com/canteen.php
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Berra do a Mike R. Battle Commander and all sins will be forgiven.
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more popular if berra has to call you repeatedly because you disagree with his opinions.
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still wondering whats up with the exclusive west 49 shit.
my local shop shut down cause of the west 49 built in the mall across the street from it. as the shop closed, west 49 hired more employees.
so wazz good borra?
So was a shop of ours years and years ago because of a West 49. West 49 isn't the greatest of people you want to be seen holding hands with in public.
When asked about this partnership, Berra's reasoning was full of holes. The local forum posted all the emails he sent from people asking what the deal was.
Yes Berra, everything you write eventually gets shared when people call bullshit.
"It costs about $150,000 a month to keep the Berrics alive so that people can watch it for free.
I don't know about you but I don't have that kind of money anymore nor did I ever."
Last time you said it was $75K
Another response telling Berra that West 49 owns Red Star
"I emailed him and told him how west owns Red Star (witch are blanks with logos pretty much) and this was his response..."
"damn. I didn't know that. They told me they didn't make blank decks. Those mother fuckers.
sb""
Yet, he still persisted with exclusives at West.
If you care about core shops, you don't make exclusives for mall shops, get your numbers straight, and do not become the new x games.
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you get a free pencil with those 130$ koston shades, SWEET.
oh and its spelt berrics d00d
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Who the fuck can afford to shop in The Canteen anyway? Seriously, $50 for a set of trucks, $55-$65 for a deck...
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I'd say between $75 and $150K a month sounds about right depending on which projects we're working on. Either of those numbers are pretty accurate depending on the month. And those costs are going up.
THIS JUST IN: Due to Slap outrage, Berrics is removing all advertising, closing the canteen, while continuing to provide free content. And if you're a small shop, just let us know. We'll stick a hundred dollar bill in an envelope and send it your way.
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The wonderful thing about a free market is choice. If you don't like Berrics gear or can't afford it there's other choices out there. (But can you seriously hate on the Beible stuff?)
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I bought the Fully Flared DVD from Zumiez. Bitch behind the registered said "What's that?" So I had to point the shit out behind the counter. ::) :P
hahahaha, i was in a zumiez earlier this year when i was visiting my brother (who lives in denver, i live in canada, who cares, anyways) and it was right when MindField was coming out. I asked the guy working there (dyed black hair, Element hoodie, big hooped earing, neck tattoo, big white circa shoes) if "the new alien video was in yet" and he had NO IDEA what i was talking about.
Nick Dagger already brought this up, but i remember a few years back when Jamie came on here because he was taking A LOT of heat from this forum, and the way he came across was so rad. He was just upfront, honest, responded to just about everyones questions no matter what it was, and all in all was totally awesome for the most part. He still has his haters for sure, but he won over a lot of people.
Berra comes on here and does the complete opposite. Full on insults most of us, and just comes across as a huge asshole. And still avoids most of the questions that people really actually want to know about.
If he would have handled it differently I'm sure many of us would have been like "ok, maybe he's not such a bad guy, and maybe this idea does make sense"
And I like how after the first video people were saying stuff about how there's no way the "almight" Koston would ever back this shit. So berrics goes and put him in the next video (I'm assuming) to make the whole thing look more legit because Koston IS ACTUALLY BACKING IT.
But nope, now we all just don't like Koston as much.
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fucking scumstache celebrity rehab money grab hollywood dust injection jizz tornado
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Hate to hang off someone elses line but jake johnson said it best in skateboarder "I Don't Carrics" and some one I won't name for that matter " where pros get lazy and the server gets busy"
And I personally love berras skating. Enough with trying to make money off a website and let's see a full part!!!
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i love berras skating too. How awesome was his part in the end?? and even though it was short, his shit in mindfield was pretty tight. Clean, fast, a style that i like anyways. And unlike most, i really liked his dvs part too and didn't mind the whole built spots thing at all.
When berrics first came out, I was all about that site. Hell, i still go their almost daily...but damn, lately, you guys have really let the popularity get to your head. Which who's to say it wouldn't happen to most of us if we were in your shoes.
...and just the way you've come across on here man, damn, you've gone down a few notches.
Which, who cares, I'm just an old washed up skater from canada who was never that good anyways. I buy shop decks and watch skate videos on youtube. I realize my opinion means shit. Just sayin
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is celebrity center berra? i'm confused.
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Berra has lost so much respect because of this, its hilairious.
I hope James Brockman takes a shit on his new skatepark.
the celeberity centre is that fat zach kid.
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I hope James Brockman takes a shit on his new skatepark.
Like Antuan at Tampa.
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cant believe a b level hollywood celebrity is on here cryin cause some people dont like his idea, grow some fuckin pubes
also you guys fucking banned me frrom your "my berrics" section of the website for being real. wack.
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Now might be a good time to make a Berrics stencil, go to the local skatepark, and charge kids $1 to do their grip or their shirt. Bring a can of metal flake shit and charge $5 for the upgrade!
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I have no problems with the " unified" crap. What I found strange all the time how it was being sold.
As an act of help, but cash first please.
Core shops only? Next, please?
Steve Berra sei un figlio di puttana.
attacati alla croce stronzo
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/Julian_Jason/SaintBerra.jpg
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Couldn't you use the berrics ad money to actually do something local?
Wouldn't that be better for skateboarding and business.
I've actually ran 2 shops, you're site wouldn't do for us in Texas. Nobody really gives a fuck about the Berrics here.
At least when it comes to where they buy boards. It's a rip off. Sorry Berra, you're a snake-oil salesman.
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cant believe a b level hollywood celebrity is on here cryin cause some people dont like his idea, grow some fuckin pubes
also you guys fucking banned me frrom your "my berrics" section of the website for being real. wack.
Shit, there TOO? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!
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the celeberity centre is that fat zach kid.
We'll know it was Zach when he disappears from the Berrics for posting all that personal shit about Berra.
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Now might be a good time to make a Berrics stencil, go to the local skatepark, and charge kids $1 to do their grip or their shirt. Bring a can of metal flake shit and charge $5 for the upgrade!
easy cash $$$$
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$130 for shades? WTF is this country coming to!
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The best thing about the Slap forum so far is that we made Jereme Rogers quit skating.
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Koston is such a dog. Have some fucking dignity and don't allow your name to be put on $130 Oakley shades. Sheesh.
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THIS JUST IN: Due to Slap outrage, Berrics is removing all advertising, closing the canteen, while continuing to provide free content. And if you're a small shop, just let us know. We'll stick a hundred dollar bill in an envelope and send it your way.
Oh come the fuck on, it sounds like you've got a classic case of message board newbie-ism. When things don't go your way, drop the immature comments and you win, right?
Nobody is asking you (if this is really Berra) for money. When I first saw the initial video for Berrics Unified, I, and it sounds like everyone else as well, thought it was going to be a free directory by the way you described it. There is no mention of paying to be a member of Berrics Unified, but there is mention of Berrics Unified showing who the "important" shops are. It sounds like most people here, including myself, were upset about the deceptive advertising you used for your new service. Like people have said earlier here, if all of that information from the second video was in the first, maybe there wouldn't have been such a backlash.
But that wasn't the case. Rather than respond to the backlash maturely, you and your partners have told us to "fuck our face," made immature and homophobic comments toward Exit Skateshop, insulted people like Watson, and avoided the reasonable questions. I don't think a free directory is a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be weird for shops to receive ads and coverage without paying (although you have gone to Deathwish, Stereo, Rival, etc. apparently out of your own will according to the videos), but I think a combination of a free directory and paid advertising is possible.
Now, our arguments for the free directory would fall short if Berrics Unified runs successfully, but with shops like West 49 receiving exclusive products, I'm doubtful that it is going to help the people who don't already have deep pockets, and deceive the kids who are looking for what you call "important" skateshops.
All we want is for you to respond truthfully and maturely. So far, that hasn't been the case.
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$130 for shades? WTF is this country coming to!
sheesh! on a somewhat related note,
today the Skatepark of Tampa opened up at 7am for "black Friday"
They had some decks for $10 and completes for $20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdpBS-eesEc
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^thats fucking rad man. SPoT keeps it real.
i actually ordered a bunch of shoes from them last week, they should be here any moment now.
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anyone that signed up or requested the info, post up his pricing.
thats the most important thing and he left it out in his 2nd video too.
i'd do it myself but i have a feeling hes selling off the email addresses to the makers of viagra.
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
And yet you personally invited him, Ian, and Pulv to take over the Berrics for a week only a few short months ago?
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Koston is such a dog. Have some fucking dignity and don't allow your name to be put on $130 Oakley shades. Sheesh.
i thought koston wasn't on oakley, and it was one of the companies he regretted getting involved in? does anybody remember that interview or video where he said that in as well?
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Koston is such a dog. Have some fucking dignity and don't allow your name to be put on $130 Oakley shades. Sheesh.
i thought koston wasn't on oakley, and it was one of the companies he regretted getting involved in? does anybody remember that interview or video where he said that in as well?
i remember he said that about Neff, the hat company. idk if he had said anything like that about oakley. I dont want to start a debate about selling out with oakley, but i wouldnt call it selling out. oakley is directed to a certain niche: people who can afford expensive glasses. oakley isn't targeting broke ass skaters. its not like hes charging 75$ for a t shirt with his name is on it, they're fucking expensive glasses. its not like youd buy them anyways, so get over it. koston is just making some dough on the side. cant hate on that.
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i remember he said that about Neff, the hat company. idk if he had said anything like that about oakley. I dont want to start a debate about selling out with oakley, but i wouldnt call it selling out. oakley is directed to a certain niche: people who can afford expensive glasses. oakley isn't targeting broke ass skaters. its not like hes charging 75$ for a t shirt with his name is on it, they're fucking expensive glasses. its not like youd buy them anyways, so get over it. koston is just making some dough on the side. cant hate on that.
"go fuk yor face"
-eric koston
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I'd say between $75 and $150K a month sounds about right depending on which projects we're working on. Either of those numbers are pretty accurate depending on the month. And those costs are going up.
THIS JUST IN: Due to Slap outrage, Berrics is removing all advertising, closing the canteen, while continuing to provide free content. And if you're a small shop, just let us know. We'll stick a hundred dollar bill in an envelope and send it your way.
so you're just going to respond to the points that you feel comfortable answering and pretend that the rest is all sunshine and fairies and you have a halo over your head? if you're just going to do that with no attempt to dignify yourself with some real conversation, why don't you just leave SLAP neither you nor us seem to be getting out of each other what we'd like: honesty from you, and blind loyalty to your cause from us.
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I have nothing against Oakley, their $130 stunna shades, or Koston making money.
But didn't a while ago Koston got off Oakley, said it was the biggest mistake in Skateboarding, and now he rides for them again?
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're gonna be outspoken against companies like Nike and Oakley, you can't turn tail and ride for them later on down the line. I like Koston's skating, but he's a kook
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Hey Steven, while I have you, what was going on with those BATB2 finals? "Finals Nov. 21st" really just translates to "VISIT MY SITE", doesn't it?
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THIS JUST IN: Due to Slap outrage, Berrics is removing all advertising, closing the canteen, while continuing to provide free content. And if you're a small shop, just let us know. We'll stick a hundred dollar bill in an envelope and send it your way.
ahahahahah....looks like soneones having a MELTDOWN....
Chillax bruzzzz, your getting smaller and smaller with every post...
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haha two threads dedicated to Koston selling out
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who gives a shit, they ousted themselves, berrics is done eating. the only difference is everyone who knows whats up with skating now knows how wack steve and eric are.
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hooray, a video:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1523
i hate that it's so good
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i liked that canteen united. ramondetta rips so hard
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hooray, a video:
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1523
i hate that it's so good
That was ridiculous
Highlights:
Koston did a nollie back 540 heel!
Ellington switch flip shifty
and Cory kennedy with the fuckin switch back noseblunt down the handrail
I havent seen any of those tricks before
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
The invitation's still open. Those dudes talk shit because they have no idea.
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
The invitation's still open. Those dudes talk shit because they have no idea.
*sigh
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I just don't like those guy's attitudes. If you think outside the box, if you think of all the people in the world and all the things going on right know....then think about how Surfing lost it's soul when dudes in the line up started getting all agro and taking every wave and starting fights on the South Shore of Oahu, so a lot of soul guys just said "fuck this". Then think about Snowboarding getting into the Olympics and fanning out over "all over print" designs. Now it's 2010 and you have skateboarders spending more money on ADVERTISING.
Who approves by your decision to be a dick to all your fans? Number 1 no-no. Also you would know that anything related to scientology, tmz, E entertainment, and Mtv is all trashy tabloid celebrity rubbish.
Honestly I see professional skateboarders presenting something like Best Kiss, rather than Best Actor in a Supporting Roll. Which I'm sure both of which you would take the opportunity to go unshaven and wear that knit beanie to make some sort of political statement. What sort of statement are you trying to make?
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
What? All the sudden Slap cares about aesthetics? But yet I get hated on for the aesthetic detail I put into the spots I skate in my parts?
The Berrics is kept grey because God forbid I add fake grass or fake bricks I might get accused of skating fake spots.
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
What? All the sudden Slap cares about aesthetics? But yet I get hated on for the aesthetic detail I put into the spots I skate in my parts?
The Berrics is kept grey because God forbid I add fake grass or fake bricks I might get accused of skating fake spots.
STILL avoiding the other questions?
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
What? All the sudden Slap cares about aesthetics? But yet I get hated on for the aesthetic detail I put into the spots I skate in my parts?
The Berrics is kept grey because God forbid I add fake grass or fake bricks I might get accused of skating fake spots.
1) Don't act like 1 person's opinion speaks for everybody. I like some of the Berrics content, and I do like that you guys have put some lesser known people out there in the limelight. I hate the general entity that is the Berrics. That its now some kind of mecca of Skateboarding. You guys might not have asked for it, but that's what its become.
2) You're still avoiding a lot of question
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
What? All the sudden Slap cares about aesthetics? But yet I get hated on for the aesthetic detail I put into the spots I skate in my parts?
isnt it awesome?
all these other "extreme sports" have been completely bought out pillaged and ruined, yet there still exists a subculture within skateboarding that is relatively untouched by this because we have a community that actually calls out and puts a stop to bullshit.
you should be happy that this happens and that this thread exists with you being called out as you clearly crossed the line between ok and bullshit, and deserve to get hated on. the very community that is shitting on your actions right now is one of the reasons people aspire to be a part of it and look at your website every day, clean your shit up and thank us later.
i can understand why youre so hard on the defensive right now, as youve been on the other side of the fence for quite a while. you could save yourself some hurt and talk to jamie thomas sometime.
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on another topic - i saw the new park for the first time today in that canteen united video. cool stuff, i liked the park but would look good with a little bit of color not just all that grey
What? All the sudden Slap cares about aesthetics? But yet I get hated on for the aesthetic detail I put into the spots I skate in my parts?
The Berrics is kept grey because God forbid I add fake grass or fake bricks I might get accused of skating fake spots.
Look, im not hating on the berrics, you, or the spots you skate. I have never said anything about what others call "fake spots".
Although some of the many thousand members say something about the berrics doesn't mean all of slap does. There are berrics fans on slap.
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[Alright Berrics staff--let's everyone get a Slap account and create a thread: Berrics Business Decisions.
http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=40508.0
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HOLY FUCK ITS STEVE BERRA SIGN MY HAT LET ME SKATE THE BERRICS!
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YOU GUYS DONT GET IT. THIS SHIT IS UNDERGROUND, GRASS ROOTS MARKETING. BEANIES AND EYEBROWS ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
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yea and the switch front foot impossible 180 or whatever down the stairs :o :o
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koston is such a fucking hypocrite saying "oh the worst decision i made was riding for oakley!" now hes on and approves charging 130 bucks for sunglasses, fuck this kook ever since he got on nike fuck him
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That was sick. What's up with the redesign though?
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how much does it cost to be the "Best skate shop in texas"?
Might cost 20 years...but we're not there yet.....still trying to figured it out. If I knew I'd drop those dollars quick. We don't do mail order so we're not too worried about the banner stuff.
Like I said before...some of the wording on Berra's videos are a little suspect..."best" and "important" aren't my favorite words to describe my shop. "skater owned and operated" or "since before you skated" are more appropriate.
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is this thread worth reading?
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That was sick. What's up with the redesign though?
Looks sick as hell. That clip was fuckin good too.
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is this thread worth reading?
NOPE
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You know who Corey Kennedy reminds me of with that line?
Slap's own, Jayme Fortune.
Who also had a sick sequence in thrashers most recent 5 sequences.
Here's lookin at you JF :)
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a wise man told me don't argue with fools
cause people from a distance can't tell who is who.
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
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is this thread worth reading?
i'll give you the executive summary...
berra announces the unified program
everyone on the 1st couple of pages says its cool idea
he says the shops who sign up will be core and important
then we find out hes trying to charge shops for a simple directory listing
then a bunch more to run ads on his site but he wasn't upfront about it
this rubs everyone the wrong way, why wouldn't it? and all hell breaks loose
this is followed by a bunch of posts about scientology and berra hate
people begin to question his motives and his agenda which is pretty much, money.
so he releases another video explaining it more thoroughly followed by koston telling everyone to go fuck their faces
people understand it but doesn't change the shit he said/did, plus now everyone knows kostons a dick too
people ask more valid questions with more berra/scientology hate
he or one of his followers show up to defend himself but refuses to answer the tough questions.
and the bitchfest continues!
i think that about sums it up.
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
The invitation's still open. Those dudes talk shit because they have no idea.
I'll take that offer! But I won't wash your car or do a Oxford Capacity Analysis.
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is this thread worth reading?
i'll give you the executive summary...
berra announces the unified program
everyone on the 1st couple of pages says its cool idea
he says the shops who sign up will be core and important
then we find out hes trying to charge shops for a simple directory listing
then a bunch more to run ads on his site but he wasn't upfront about it
this rubs everyone the wrong way, why wouldn't it? and all hell breaks loose
this is followed by a bunch of posts about scientology and berra hate
people begin to question his motives and his agenda which is pretty much, money.
so he releases another video explaining it more thoroughly followed by koston telling everyone to go fuck their faces
people understand it but doesn't change the shit he said/did, plus now everyone knows kostons a dick too
people ask more valid questions with more berra/scientology hate
he or one of his followers show up to defend himself but refuses to answer the tough questions.
and the bitchfest continues!
i think that about sums it up.
faster! i think you're awesome
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Kenny's line was pretty fahkin awesome.
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how much does it cost to be the "Best skate shop in texas"?
Like I said before...some of the wording on Berra's videos are a little suspect..."best" and "important" aren't my favorite words to describe my shop. "skater owned and operated" or "since before you skated" are more appropriate.
props on being in business for two decades. since the unified program is about paying for ad space, i figured paying a premium might get a shop mentioned in one of mr. borra's videos.
keep us informed about how this stuff works out for your shop.
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I been telling niggas shane is the best skateboarder. Now you see it.
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Skateboardings hot crew
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Listen you fucking knitted beanie clown, you've fucked up. First, you aspire to the fictive teachings of a motherfuck who WAS KICKED OUT OF HIS OWN COUNTRY TO THEN LIVE ON A HOUSEBOAT OFF THE COAST OF HAWAII WITH A BUNCH OF CHILDREN TO SUCK HIS L.ROD AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SIGN ON TO THE NET AND TALK ABOUT FACE-FUCKING 13 YEAR OLDS!?
Sit the fuck down so I can remove 97% of the feeling in your tiny scrote when I smash the fuck out of it with Mrs. Hanz's Tae-Bo weights. You're Gonna be shootin' Billy Blanks when I'm done with you,fuckin' "coward"
-All Hanz on dick.
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Ey if that's the real berra let me in the berrics niggas. I'm trying to start getting it in. If it's not, good job of riling up the resident faggots.
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Lookin' for a blow job from somebody other than your dad? Shut the fuck up child. The adults are talking.
-Hanz
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The fact that people actually think you're funny is a testament to the level of faggotry on slap.
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^ why would anyone let you skate their park? you seem like an asshole.
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If telling the truth makes me an asshole, then so be it.
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the new berrics just got shut down with one video. that was everything i wanted to see. now i dont have to go to that website ever again
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Kenny anderson had another NBD I think, switch bs 270 tailslide
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No, but seriously, how fucking bored do you get making the same post over and over again?
-Hanz knows irony.
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This is the best thread ever.
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Holy fuck that was ridiculously good.
Kenny's line with the switch 270 tailslide was unreal
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This is the best thread ever.
It would be much more interesting if Berra would give specific answers to the questions. Im so sick of this Berra hate, just have a constructive mature argument with eachother!
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I been telling niggas shane is the best skateboarder. Now you see it.
I agreed with you the first time.
That dude is seriously good.
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thats a sick team, but i wont be buying anything from the berrics. they can have my clicks though.
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Koston is such a dog. Have some fucking dignity and don't allow your name to be put on $130 Oakley shades. Sheesh.
i thought koston wasn't on oakley, and it was one of the companies he regretted getting involved in? does anybody remember that interview or video where he said that in as well?
i remember he said that about Neff, the hat company. idk if he had said anything like that about oakley. I dont want to start a debate about selling out with oakley, but i wouldnt call it selling out. oakley is directed to a certain niche: people who can afford expensive glasses. oakley isn't targeting broke ass skaters. its not like hes charging 75$ for a t shirt with his name is on it, they're fucking expensive glasses. its not like youd buy them anyways, so get over it. koston is just making some dough on the side. cant hate on that.
yeah man in super champion funzone he said he regretted the opaks hahaha kostons funny.
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damn those kenny clips were sooo damn good. anybody else notice where he puts his back foot for his switch bs 180s?
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Watson's a dipshit for pretending to be offended by it. He writes a shitty little blog he wishes he could charge advertising for.
The invitation's still open. Those dudes talk shit because they have no idea.
No man, they talk shit because it's what they do best, but if you've read any history into their writing at all since the blog started, you'll notice it's all based on a love for skateboarding. When there is something that they feel runs against the grain of what skateboarding is about, fuck yes they're gonna call it out every time. And no, they don't get offended, because they don't take it personal. Either way, I'm not trying to stir up the pot, because I really don't care either way. You're just a regular ass person, same as anybody else, that isn't going to add a day to my life or take one less away, nor will it affect how much skating I'm going to do tomorrow. I respect you as a skateboarder as there's no denying you've put your time in on a board, cheek bone and all, but I strongly disagree with you on this shit. As for people advertising on the Soon, I bet if he made a little campaign for himself asking people to throw down, I'm confident he'd get a bit of drinking money out of the deal.
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I'll take that offer! But I won't wash your car or do a Oxford Capacity Analysis.
After the holidays let's compare calendars and make it happen. My guess is you'll make up an excuse not to come because you know you're a lot more internet cool than you are in real life. Plus in the back of your mind you know if you come and walk in my shoes you won't be able to talk anymore shit.
And I'm not to worried about keeping my 05 Ford Escape Hybrid clean so don't worry about getting your hands dirty. I'll let you do some finance work and see first hand how it's all about greed.
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if you say it costs you 75k a month to run a private skate park in a warehouse you either have some serious financial holes to patch or you're acting.
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Internet bandwidth, Travel costs, filming, and paying everybody or anyone that had anything to do with the Berrics, that number really isn't surprising. The Berrics is viral. They're always doing something to appease its large fanbase
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if you say it costs you 75k a month to run a private skate park in a warehouse you either have some serious financial holes to patch or you're acting.
Yeah the X x is right. We're as much a production house as we are a skatepark with the amount of filming/editing that goes down. It's not exactly the same as a warehouse space you and your buddies share a key to.
75K seems like a lot but it's on the low end of what Berrics costs to run these days.
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if you say it costs you 75k a month to run a private skate park in a warehouse you either have some serious financial holes to patch or you're acting.
Yeah the X x is right. We're as much a production house as we are a skatepark with the amount of filming/editing that goes down. It's not exactly the same as a warehouse space you and your buddies share a key to.
75K seems like a lot but it's on the low end of what Berrics costs to run these days.
oh no the warehouse me "and my buddies share a key to." costs 76k per year. time to step up and redesign the remote office to match my spending big man.
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Donkey Lips do you have a disability? I just want to put it on the table before I make fun of you or say something mean that I regret.
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kenny anderson on converse?
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Donkey Lips do you have a disability? I just want to put it on the table before I make fun of you or say something mean that I regret.
i have plenty of disabilities steven. one being the disability to believe you. do any of my disabilities (learning and/or physical) have any bearing on you not answering questions directly? i'm just setting that out on the table berra, so feel free to make fun of me, because i feel my handicaps and yours put us on an equal playing field.
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berra: youre gay
90% of slap: youre gay
skateboarding: youre gay
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keny andersons line was sick, all these guys are really good and/or skateboarders i really like watching, but watching that just made me wanna buy stuff from the companys the skaters skate for/own, not from the borrics
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im gay for skating...but are there really people out there that have no idea of the shops around them? i know like every shop in a 30 mile radius even if that isnt many
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Damn, it's starting to seem kinda like Berra woke up a couple days ago and said "you know, there may be a few people left who still think of me as a person to respect. I'm gonna get online and clear THAT delusion up..."
I'm almost starting to feel sorry for the poor fool, assuming this really is him.
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im gay for skating...but are there really people out there that have no idea of the shops around them? i know like every shop in a 30 mile radius even if that isnt many
me too, but ive been skating a long time. go to a skatepark and watch the little kids...they don't know shit
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hey steve,
why would you wait it out for 1500 shops to drop $50 a month, when you could get every shop to drop $5?
15000 shops @ $5 per month($60 per year) = $900K
its actually that simple.
why should anyone have pay $600 a year, when your shit hasn't been proven to work yet?
i know shops would drop $60 for a whole year, no questions asked, and they'd pay the whole amount upfront.
and heres the other upside, now one will have a problem with the 1 year commit.
you can still charge shops to run banners, no ones going to knock you for that.
and if you really want to get deep on why your fucking shit stinks,
an annual subscription to 411(RIP) cost less than what you're charging for a simple listing!
chew on that for a bit because thats how absurd i think you are.
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Donkey Lips do you have a disability? I just want to put it on the table before I make fun of you or say something mean that I regret.
berra won me over with this one.
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That entire clip was really good. I don't think anyone mentioned how good Walker Ryan's shit was.
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Donovan wants "SlapMessageBoards" to answer for their blasphemy against the Berrics! We've got till tomorrow night!
http://twitter.com/BUTTERY_D
"Slapmessageboards..your time is ticking..i got all your info, photos, locations fullnames an everythin you said about people..confess hahaha"
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Donovan wants "SlapMessageBoards" to answer for their blasphemy against the Berrics! We've got till tomorrow night!
http://twitter.com/BUTTERY_D
"Slapmessageboards..your time is ticking..i got all your info, photos, locations fullnames an everythin you said about people..confess hahaha"
Is this dude on crack?
What the hells he talkin about
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Donovan and berra go fak your face...
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UH OH shit just got real. but why oh why does anyone wage war on an internet message board site? it never goes well
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"The demands are simple and fair, celebrity_centre jus has to sign in and post publicly that hes a fake account..or your all takin his debt."
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http://twitter.com/celebritycentre
hmmm....the old fake fake backflip???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwHw5U4q2c0
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i like the berrics and donovan's show can be funny some times, but why attack the whole message board?
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I see where this is going....
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Steezus Borra's disciple, eating the last dessert
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hey steve berra could we see some pics of your butt in those cute ripped jeans you wore in the end?
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If it's going to be war beetween us and the berrics, koston was lucky that he got on oakley again! Now they get those military oakley goggles for free!
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i like the berrics and donovan's show can be funny some times, but why attack the whole message board?
Because the overwhelming majority of the people on here are lame as fuck. The few people that aren't lame don't roast the lame people enough. This message board doesn't represent the people that skateboard. It represents the people at the skatepark sitting on the ledge getting in the way.
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i like the berrics and donovan's show can be funny some times, but why attack the whole message board?
I enjoy your contributions, but I don't understand why you post here if this is how you feel...
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...Wow can't believe I spent as much time as I did reading this thread.. fucking A. I can not believe nobody has mentioned this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvb2SjVjjI
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15pages of complaining 'cause Berra sells ad space is not willing to give it out for free? Am I correct on this one?
And his company sold products to a mall shop in Canada? And it's the end of the world?
I've never been a Steve Berra fan but this pointless fucking hate here is turning me into a fan now.
If you haters would give up the pointless hate for a second and really think this through you'd understand there nothing wrong with this whole thing. But why would you? You just love the fight.
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Daniel Espinosa!
everything ive seen from him has been on point
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15pages of complaining 'cause Berra sells ad space is not willing to give it out for free? Am I correct on this one?
And his company sold products to a mall shop in Canada? And it's the end of the world?
I've never been a Steve Berra fan but this pointless fucking hate here is turning me into a fan now.
If you haters would give up the pointless hate for a second and really think this through you'd understand there nothing wrong with this whole thing. But why would you? You just love the fight.
can't you see the bullshit that's going on here? this whole idea was to support the real skate shops, now they're selling shit exclusively to the shitty mall shops which pretty much defeats the purpose. get a fucking clue.
get rawb back in here, this is classic slap material.
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I know it's obvious to the brighter crowd out there but Celebrity Centre is imposing as Steve Berra. It's obviously not the real Berra so don't believe his bullshit.
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15pages of complaining 'cause Berra sells ad space is not willing to give it out for free? Am I correct on this one?
And his company sold products to a mall shop in Canada? And it's the end of the world?
I've never been a Steve Berra fan but this pointless fucking hate here is turning me into a fan now.
If you haters would give up the pointless hate for a second and really think this through you'd understand there nothing wrong with this whole thing. But why would you? You just love the fight.
can't you see the bullshit that's going on here? this whole idea was to support the real skate shops, now they're selling shit exclusively to the shitty mall shops which pretty much defeats the purpose. get a fucking clue.
get rawb back in here, this is classic slap material.
No it's not called bullshit, it's called business. It's not the end of the world or end of their credibility to sell a line of products to a mall chain. Their business is not based on that. The Berrics is a business, they need the money, you've seen the figures here. Once you need to pay the bills, yo do decitions. Sometimes there no way to please everyone with these decitions. And this happens to all of the companies in skateboarding if they don't want to end their business. The money happens to be at those mall shops and you got to stick your finger there every once in a while. Every company does it. It's not a good thing but that's the way how things go at the moment.
If you'd been in the position, behing the desk pressing buttons, going through budgets you'd know what's up. Apparently you haven't and you don't share the view. That's OK. Maybe same day you will.
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That entire clip was really good. I don't think anyone mentioned how good Walker Ryan's shit was.
Walker is the shit. Super stoked on everything he puts out.
I been telling niggas shane is the best skateboarder. Now you see it.
I wasn't too sold on him when he first started getting footy and his Am Chowder part is alright, after that I'd have to agree with you.
As for the actual Berrics Canteen itself I think The Berrics should just keep it based off of collaborations between The Berrics and it's riders/companies instead of being a kind of catch all weborder. That way people can just buy limited edition/rare stuff from there, but if they don't like anything they can just go to their shops.
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kenny anderson on converse?
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130 for good shades ... It's not that baad, when your young it's no gonna happen, but as you get older what's another 100 bucks. Ray ban shades sell for 200. And the while universe has those now, so really 130 isn't baad, it's like inbetwen the super cheap shit that hurts your eyes and gives head aches and say Ray ban. So who knows. Plus they sold the fuck your face out hella fast, that says something.
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just so this very important point i brought up doesn't get lose in the shuffle of hate....
and if you really want to get deep on why your fucking shit stinks,
an annual subscription to 411(RIP) cost less than what you're charging for a simple listing!
chew on that for a bit because thats how absurd i think you are.
to add to that,
$60 month is like 5 magazine subscriptions.
how is it that a printed magazine like TSM can operate like with a full staff, pay for office space, cover travel expenses, and all that other stuff and still charge $10-$15 a month?
i know its mostly through advertising revenue(which you're trying to generate anyway) but its not like you're asking shops to pay that much for an ad, you're asking shops to pay that much for a listing on your website.
the other thing is, the mags actually film/shoot street skating, not post park footage and games of skate in their private indoor warehouse.
so i have to ask, are you completely delusional? how can you justify this? do you honestly think your website commands that kind of pricing for a simple listing? its absurd no matter how many ways i try to look at it. yeah i know business is business but this is straight up highway robbery.
and to the shops that did sign up,
everyone one of you got ripped off if you consider just the things i mentioned in this post alone.
next time i suggest doing some more research before signing a 1 year commitment for anything.
i wish you all the best.
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Faster I get your frustration but I think your ill feelings are clouding your vision.
How is a 411 subscription comparable to advertising? I know the fees can be spendy for a lot of shops but our rates are less than any other skateboarding website. And we get more traffic. That's where I'm confused with the hate.
Advertising is an investment and Berrics feels small shops will see that money come back to them with additional revenue. You can agree or disagree. If you're a shop who thinks we can help then sign on. If not we understand. Slap is the one catching feelings over this.
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Holy guacamole this whole thing is completely retardo.
Could Steff Borax possibly blow it any harder? I'm talking game 7, bottom of the ninth, 2 outs, full count, and he leaves to go to the clubhouse cause he filled his trousers with brown soup on national television. West 49 exclusive? Did anybody actually think that one through before Borax rambled on like a babbling brook about the importance of small business? West 49 is the Canadian Zumiez, except they probably sell extreme snowshoes. Borax, do you even think about anything before you open your cakehole or is there some kind of disconnect between your mouth and your noodle?
Margarine ass Donovan, you're going about this all wrong too. I don't know what it says about your guys insecurities that you're so hung up about what a bunch of anonymous cowards think about you. Does everyone have to like you? Did your dad abandon you at a young age or what?
If you get a Ted Degros bottle commander going, all will be forgiven.
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so i have to ask, are you completely delusional? how can you justify this? do you honestly think your website commands that kind of pricing for a simple listing? its absurd no matter how many ways i try to look at it. yeah i know business is business but this is straight up highway robbery.
Sorry for the double post but Faster that post is a lot to take in.
I've been called worse than delusional so I won't take it personally but we justify our pricing based off our traffic and the going rate for ads. We established a price point and went below market for small shops. And I'll put our Berrics Unified rates against other comparable websites (Slap for instance).
But the best indicator that our pricing is appropriate is the number of shops who are buying in. It's a good deal.
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yeah but you know what i bet if you wrote steve berra personally and you were some really small shop on the come up and sent some sort of video or photos + story and you didnt have that kind of coin to get a listing, maybe he would hook that up? no one probably even thought about goin about it that route.
"I heard things can be done"
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JVVaXmiE24g/RvyRVnSYkhI/AAAAAAAAF4Q/cc41dcC1yzs/s400/_______LarryDavid_Grani_8663267_400.jpg)
or maybe hed be a dick and tell you to fuck
i dont know sounds weird to me i havent really been payin attention i just dont like the direction this is going in, seems like more parks less street. its like they are trying to "legalize skateboarding" in a way and its kinda takin away from the real
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how is it comparable to 411? well they traveled, they spotlighted skaters, they ran ads, and they manufactured a VHS cassette and sent it to me a in the mail every month for $250 a year. not to mention, they got actual street footage, not a bunch of park footage and games of skate in an indoor warehouse.
you keep saying its for "advertising" but you're not charging $60 for advertising, you're charging $60 for a simple listing.
if someone wants to advertise on your site with a banner ad or something, that takes them into a whole other stratosphere of your absurd price bracket.
the thing you're forgetting is that a print ad stays reaching the target audience because its a physical product that gets passed around forever and ever, even decades later. with you, when my 1 year commitment is up on your website, my listing goes down and its gone forever.
so theres a HUGE difference between a "virtual ad" and a physical ad and damn sure a simple text listing on your website. mind you i'm not even considering that it actually cost money to print a physical ad in a magazine/paper/etc as opposed to typing in a virtual text listing on your website.
you think you're slick but you're really not. i'm not some uneducated skater that pulls bong hits all day like half the dudes you got working there. i have an actual business degree from NC state and have firsthand experience running several different types of businesses.
i think its funny that between you and everyone else at the berrics, your combined education barely equals a frickin GED and you think you're smart enough to pull i off. realistically, you'd have a better chance selling your shit by hiring vince the slapchop guy.
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411 was awesome but they also went out of business. I'm not sure Berrics wants to follow that business model.
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130 for good shades ... It's not that baad, when your young it's no gonna happen, but as you get older what's another 100 bucks. Ray ban shades sell for 200. And the while universe has those now, so really 130 isn't baad, it's like inbetwen the super cheap shit that hurts your eyes and gives head aches and say Ray ban. So who knows. Plus they sold the fuck your face out hella fast, that says something.
most raybans (wayfarer and clubmaster) are like 130-140 bucks
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The Koston's are pretty much in the same price/quality class as Wayfarers. For those in the market for that class shade it just gives you the option of supporting a skateboarder.
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hey steve berra could we see some pics of your butt in those cute ripped jeans you wore in the end?
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Read this. http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/11/take-that-broke-bitter-shop-owners.html
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The Koston's are pretty much in the same price/quality class as Wayfarers. For those in the market for that class shade it just gives you the option of supporting a skateboarder.
are oakleys handmade in italy? i support skateboarders by buying boards and videos
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Skatebort you need some new material dude. Two of the same posts in one thread. If you're gonna take cracks at least be funny.
You, Taxlupferfet, J Rog, and Donkey Lips actually make me feel weird.
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hey steve berra could we see some pics of your butt in those cute ripped jeans you wore in the end?
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Wait so it's not about cost?
Would you buy Koston Oakleys if they were Itallian made? How about USA made? Buy local, right?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUJ4ApgZF6k&feature=related
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Yo Borra, dis ya boy nick daggal.
If you're really Steve Borra, like you claiming, then tell us some stuff that only the real Steve Borra would know.
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I've never claimed anything on here other than Berrics Unified is legit and can bring small shops some added revenue.
I'm not on here to prove anything. Been at this 17 years professionally. I know what it's like to live off $500 a week, and I know what it's like to make more money than I thought I ever could. Those days are over and I now make somewhere in between but so far Berrics hasn't turned a profit. A lot of people are putting up their own money and unless some comes back in Berrics will go the way of 411.
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well thats bullshit
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Skatebort you need some new material dude. Two of the same posts in one thread. If you're gonna take cracks at least be funny.
You, Taxlupferfet, J Rog, and Donkey Lips actually make me feel weird.
just kidding, i don't really want to see your butt and i am sorry.
but those black and white videos you always post on the berrics make me feel pretty weird as well. lets call it even.
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does that mean those people are leaving their current mailorder sponsors... cause i just saw a zumiez ad with reynolds in it
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Wait so it's not about cost?
Would you buy Koston Oakleys if they were Itallian made? How about USA made? Buy local, right?
im not the one complaining about price fool!
i just wouldnt buy them because i dont like how they look
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Skatebort you need some new material dude. Two of the same posts in one thread. If you're gonna take cracks at least be funny.
You, Taxlupferfet, J Rog, and Donkey Lips actually make me feel weird.
All weirdedness aside Mr. Berra, can you answer one of my questions? How are you going to make skateboarding as big as baseball, football, and basketball without working with a "board of directors"?
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You know who Corey Kennedy reminds me of with that line?
Slap's own, Jayme Fortune.
You bite your tongue
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Hey Borra, ya boy nick daggal again.
I got a kurl idea for the borrics.
Remember that movie you made, "The Good Life" ?
How about putting that up on the borrics one day. It would be kurl.
And that other movie you were in that had a preview in one of the old CKY videos. Sixteen something.
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i think there needs to be a slap pals united nations
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yo these slap guys are ruining our reputation
im gonna be a bitch on twitter successfully introducing the forum and everything posted on it to thousands of kids who follow me and dont know about it
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You know who Corey Kennedy reminds me of with that line?
Slap's own, Jayme Fortune.
You bite your tongue
now i want to watch Wedding Crashers.
davis torgerson, fakie ollie switch back feeble down the handrail? gooood shit. i wish i didn't just support them by watching it though. i need to find a youtube account that's on top of this shit.
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i think there needs to be a slap pals united nations
that would be sick!
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this whole thing is starting to seem even more evil than i originally thought... berra is asking shops to help support a mailorder that will take business away from them!!! and all the while he's acting like HE's doing THEM a favor! like he's such a great guy because he "doesn't care" that small shops are going to take business away from his mailorder!!! what a joke, i'm glad everyone realizes how much bullshit this is
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http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/24/justin-bieber-injury/
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You know who Corey Kennedy reminds me of with that line?
Slap's own, Jayme Fortune.
You bite your tongue
davis torgerson, fakie ollie switch back feeble down the handrail? gooood shit. i wish i didn't just support them by watching it though. i need to find a youtube account that's on top of this shit.
www.freeberrics.com
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This thread sucks now. It was funny 2 pages ago.
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This thread sucks now. It was funny 2 pages ago.
Well, you've always sucked and you've never been funny & it hasn't stopped you...
I notice Berra/Celeb Centre/whoever's tone has gotten more conciliatory and reasonable in the last few posts. Maybe Dave Fincher or one of the higher-ups at the Scientology compound issued a directive that being insulting and condescending to your core audience might not be the smartest business move...
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
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This thread sucks now. It was funny 2 pages ago.
Well, you've always sucked and you've never been funny & it hasn't stopped you...
Zing! What a Class (with a capital C) act cunts like you are. I could imagine you and your faggot buddies saying something like "C'ah, are those the shoes you're wearing... L-oser!" - while drinking in a parking lot.
Your contribution to this thread however, will be written in the hearts of men.
Fag.
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TapLux it shows you're a little on the dim side to come in here with that picture. And not funny. I don't really understand the "rep" thing going on here buy yours gives me the inkling other people on here think you're an idiot too.
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This thread sucks now. It was funny 2 pages ago.
Well, you've always sucked and you've never been funny & it hasn't stopped you...
Your contribution to this thread however, will be written in the hearts of men.
Fag.
And J Rog it's nice to see your true colors come out you homophobic jock.
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Then we have something in common
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Then we have something in common
Um, no.
People had their minds made up on me before I typed a single word. You on the other hand earned that rep of yours.
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TapLux it shows you're a little on the dim side to come in here with that picture. And not funny. I don't really understand the "rep" thing going on here buy yours gives me the inkling other people on here think you're an idiot too.
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This thread sucks now. It was funny 2 pages ago.
Well, you've always sucked and you've never been funny & it hasn't stopped you...
Your contribution to this thread however, will be written in the hearts of men.
Fag.
And J Rog it's nice to see your true colors come out you homophobic jock.
You guys gonna start pulling each others hair? hahaha
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Whats wrong with my rep?
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
He looks exactly the same as he does all the time. Don't try to jump on the bandwagon now, faggot.
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are Black Flys still cool? I have had the same pair since 1995.
(http://www.flys.com/images/GarageShelleyIntllo.jpg)
AFFIRMATIVE!
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
not my type/style of skating, wouldnt go there.
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Whats wrong with my rep?
I hadn't knocked it in 24 hours, that's what.
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I been telling niggas shane is the best skateboarder. Now you see it.
I thought you said Cory was? Doesn't matter, I'd agree with you either way.
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Why the fuck would you spend that much money on sunglasses? To me that just seems like a REALLY big waste of cash. You can buy practically the same shit at any Dollar Store, minus the name on the ear piece. $130 for Koston's name and Oakley insignia
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Really funny how Berra avoided so many important questions
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Avoided questions or give you the answers you want to hear?
And with religious cheapshots why should I even give you the time of day. Don't act like an asshole and then act entitled.
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Scientology isn't a religion
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Avoided questions or give you the answers you want to hear?
And with religious cheapshots why should I even give you the time of day. Don't act like an asshole and then act entitled.
i didn't act like an asshole towards you until you didn't respond to queries, then i asked you if you could, then you pulled a real asshole maneuver by quoting me and taking out the portion of the quote that civilly asked you to not avoid my questioning. that's when i became a jerk.
but are you even Berra? i don't know whether Donovan's twitter shit is real or a hoax to get us to get off your back so you can retain some amount of dignity.
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to the guy above, you have no idea what your talking about. im not a fan of oakley but there lenses are some of the best in the world, and in a very very very different league than stuff at the dollar store. most cheap shades do very little to protect your eyes and infact offten cause more damage than they do good.
again, im in no way saying you should buy those koston shades.
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Man this thread's a shit storm of mostly personal insults and a few good points/questions. But Berrics is a place involving a lot of people. Good points/questions will be talked about by the people who need to talk about them. I'm not going to overstep my bounds and say things that aren't well thought out or haven't been discussed by others.
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
no, i see it too. he's no longer wearing a new era, and he looks pleasantly plumper, and has some sketch as compared to his usual on point skating. have always & still like him though.
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Listen to Tim's commentary at 2:07
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
no, i see it too. he's no longer wearing a new era, and he looks pleasantly plumper, and has some sketch as compared to his usual on point skating. have always & still like him though.
Not only are you a faggot, but you're an idiot to boot.
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Man this thread's a shit storm of mostly personal insults and a few good points/questions. But Berrics is a place involving a lot of people. Good points/questions will be talked about by the people who need to talk about them. I'm not going to overstep my bounds and say things that aren't well thought out or haven't been discussed by others.
Can you please talk about the part where you want to make skateboarding as big as baseball, football, and basket ball without it losing its autonomy to a board of directors?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy
thanks
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From Twitter....http://twitter.com/BUTTERY_D (http://twitter.com/BUTTERY_D)
Recent to Oldest
"Slap your times tickin..Dagger..er..Mr.English, you should get centre to man up before your charollett residence exposed..no ones excluded"
"The demands are simple and fair, celebrity_centre jus has to sign in and post publicly that hes a fake account..or your all takin his debt."
"im givin the benefit of how late i posted, Slap has til 2morow night to confess or your indentitys photos addresses an a few #s will be told"
"Mr.Logan doesnt look mexican mor spaniard an Mr.Murrells nose aint like gewers, but thereboth in the list if Dan of Ted dont wiseup"
"Hey Mr.Barrow or Mr.Watson..er..i mean "Celebrity_centre" shall i start with all ur info first?"
"@celebritycentre hahaha nah..i got full names, adresses to many, photos..shits bein put on blast if slap doesnt confess"
"Slapmessageboards..your time is ticking..i got all your info, photos, locations fullnames an everythin you said about people..confess hahaha"
"and not just the one whos posting, but everyones i got easily from the "meetandgreet" from facebooks to myspaces, wanna make the fake known?"
"jus like its known as PrisonWallet has said in TempGnars "honest unified" thread, so make that public or ima start exposing ur names & info"
"Hey SlapMessageBoards i got a fair little game for ya..you confess thatCelebrity_Centre is a fake account (cont.)"
This is too funny!
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It means you're reading Donavan's twitter.
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(http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/cute_cat.jpg)
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donovan his a fucking fag
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This makes me feel safe to talk shit on Donovan, Berra, and whoever all I want. I didn't post in that meet and greet thread.
And he is an idiot if he thinks Watson's real last name is Barrow. Watson is pretty open about his identity, and has posted his name, photos and video of himself, and stories of sex with fat women on here. What more can you expose?
Oh, and p.s. Donovan, the idea of trolling is to get a reaction, you are playing your role well.
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Mr. Barrow rips
(http://www.goodeveningtokyo.com/teddyswitchbacksmith.jpg)
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Alright so yo, ima tell you how to take on internet bullies...
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what makes him think a slap pal is the account and why doese he care so much? i'm confused
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Since when do people take Donavan seriously? If he's got access to Slap Pal profiles I'm sure it's been burning a hole in his pocket... He probably saw the Berrics Unified thread and saw his opportunity. Someone called that Celebrity Centre account fake pages ago and I bet he decided to play that card.
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yeah, so, he's about to expose less than what we know about him.
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so what's he trying to do? give our full names, addresses, and pics? why would anyone care, including any slap pal?
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i love it! he thinks someone will care. its not like any of us have anything to hide away, i know i certainly don't.
i don't have a problem with steve personally, only certain points about the unified program
i asked valid questions and brought up valid points as well as many other people.
if thats too real for you dudes, please feel free to post all my personal info as well as anyone else.
its not like any of us are gonna cry about it....unlike some people we know.
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so i guess photoshopping cumming dicks on berra's face was the straw that broke the camel's back?
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You know how SLAP has gotten to be so notorious and widely known? Shit like this. Now even more people know about this place, and will come and eventually also talk shit on him.
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STRAIN your times tickin..DONOVAN, you should get BERRA to man up before your SIMIY VALY residence exposed..no PROS excluded
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I actually thought that Celebrity Centre was Berra at first.
I forgot that people on the internet can lie.
Like women.
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8)
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i love it! he thinks someone will care. its not like any of us have anything to hide away, i know i certainly don't.
i don't have a problem with steve personally, only certain points about the unified program
i asked valid questions and brought up valid points as well as many other people.
if thats too real for you dudes, please feel free to post all my personal info as well as anyone else.
its not like any of us are gonna cry about it....unlike some people we know.
(chuckle)
I'm guessing celebrity centre could be somebody who hasn't been posting lately...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_6UbLHGsUs
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I've been saying no one that actually skateboards likes you guys. Now you see it, and it's beautiful to me.
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you niggas are lame
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Who is it? Dr. Newton?!
That was my guess.
You might as well tell us who you are at this point.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2avyzmQKMvU
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:) ;) :D ;D 8) :P :-*
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If this is Newton's way of returning, I will bury all past grudges against him. Or are we talking about cool Doctor Newton?
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I was thinking MexicanSpaniard
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When this is all over and done with, we need a special subsection in classic slap called "the berra/donovan chronicles"
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Hey Donovan, don't be Berra's puppet. Pull Steve's hand and your head out of your ass while you still have some dignity. All you are going to accomplish is more Donovan is Steve Berra's tool threads.
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It's time for a beer
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yo donovan, who does this remind you of?
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
i'll give you clue, you're under his desk right now.
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"Oh yeah an the status is now at a truce..we got the phonecall and actions we asked for..thanks homies ;D til nexttime slap..have a good one"
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Almost 70 guest's in the in one thread...
edit: I'm 5 beers in JS...wait does this mean all the drama will end? this shit is better than All My Children!
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I know you guys are not worried, but NOBODY except SLAP admins have access to your accounts, or profiles.
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Slap wins.
"Oh yeah an the status is now at a truce..we got the phonecall and actions we asked for..thanks homies ;D til nexttime slap..have a good one"
Donovan's last tweet.
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Yes, this is true!!! we are all cool now!! its Saturday night, go get faded!
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ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER SCRUB WALKING FREE. I HAD BETTER NOT CATCH DONOVAN OR HIS LITTLE SISSY CLUB IN MY GODDAMN DISTRICT AGAIN OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!!!!
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oh what, i just got popcorn and this shit ends? balls
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That's what you guys get for taking Donavan seriously. Donavan's good people but serious is something I'm pretty sure he's never been accused of.
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So you called Donovan and explained that it really is you posting, Steve?
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Yeah I'm getting fucking faded
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The phone call bit was about as serious as all the rest. Donavan knew.
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he got the call from steve not to tweet anything regarding slap.
it makes sense since he'll just be drawing more negative attention to his unified program and why its so bogus.
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Not exactly true but I'll concede it does give Slap Pals a false sense of significance to see Slap written about in other venues.
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Gordon ramsey accidentally saved you guys. I'm pissed.
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i dont get it, he want to call us for what?
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I guess Salman Agah was busy so now Donovan has to pick up the slack and "threaten" to out SLAP posters?
Last time I checked there is such a thing as freedom of speech and if someone wants to criticize the berric united program then they can do so especially since everyone talking about has actuall proof from Berra's martyr video post over how he was going to save skateboarding when in fact it is nothing more than an advertising scheme to generate profits for his and Koston's investment. Berra's actions are so Scientologist in trying to supress criticism.
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
no, i see it too. he's no longer wearing a new era, and he looks pleasantly plumper, and has some sketch as compared to his usual on point skating. have always & still like him though.
how the fuck a hat is suppose to change someone style on a skateboard?
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to the guy above, you have no idea what your talking about. im not a fan of oakley but there lenses are some of the best in the world, and in a very very very different league than stuff at the dollar store. most cheap shades do very little to protect your eyes and infact offten cause more damage than they do good.
again, im in no way saying you should buy those koston shades.
yea i managed to come up with a pair or 2 of oakleys and they seriously are really good i was surprised
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enough of these faggot berrics threads.
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its a skatepark, get over it
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all this over a warehouse with a few ledges in it.
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its a skatepark, get over it
I think this is actually entirely about a dude threatening the slap boards with pretty much nothing over a prank.
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burp. or maybe he was just fucking wit you guys back a little.
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Not exactly true but I'll concede it does give Slap Pals a false sense of significance to see Slap written about in other venues.
RIP Celebrity Centre
you came in hot, then burned right out....
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enough of these faggot berrics threads.
dude it's the borrics!
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i take back all the comparisons i made between jrblastoff and berra...totally unfair/harsh to jeremy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKvSG5xcrl4
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ray bans look cooler, are better, and girls like them
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so i guess photoshopping cumming dicks on berra's face was the straw that broke the camel's back?
hes gonna get bombarded with cock bouquets and family double dare sized servings of semen when he starts posting da slap boiz
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i just got a call from scientology recruitment
BERRA YOU SICK FUCK, HOW COULD YOU STOOP SO LOW???
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I think everyone is overlooking the fact that steve is charging shops money to advertise on a site that is their competition... its like if a shop payed to advertise on ccs, when people are one click away from just buying the stuff online... the berrics is about to be the new active, and i guess he's trying to make that okay... and I heard Anomymous Content actually pays the berrics rent, because the site gets so many hits so steve/eric don't actually have to pay for that... i could just be hearing that....
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http://jurassicparkwtf.ytmnd.com/
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http://jamisoutrageous.ytmnd.com/
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Shit's fuckt up like your momma in my hot tub
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I say we get all jihad up in this muthufukka',
(http://www.parterre.com/mob_pitchforks.JPG)
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http://jurassicparkwtf.ytmnd.com/
sig'd!!!
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Listen to Tim's commentary at 2:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frvNbh-7sx8
This is far better than anything the berrics has ever produced.
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i just got a call from scientology recruitment
BERRA YOU SICK FUCK, HOW COULD YOU STOOP SO LOW???
haha, what the fuck?
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i just got a call from scientology recruitment
BERRA YOU SICK FUCK, HOW COULD YOU STOOP SO LOW???
haha, what the fuck?
i knew it! i knew he was going to sell everyones info!
BASTARD!
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???
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You know, I honestly didn't mind Steve Berra up until this shit happened. Fuck you Steve Berra, Ron Hubbard, and Donovan Strain. Go look for aliens inside volcano's you cunt's.
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"oooohhhh, I am going to rich"
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I come home drunk as shit last night and find all this shit. Fucking rad! I'm not even sure what the fuck happened...
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So which admin focused the Celeb Centre account? Also, why would you care? If J Rog bitches there is an account named after him are you going to focus that account and our beloved Whisper Raps account as well? What if the actor who play Tobias Funke gets mad at the pal account named after him? Kill it off as well? How about the makers of Seinfeld threaten to all drink the kool aid if we don't have the 3rd Person Jimmy account post that he's not the real 3rd person Jimmy? It's just asinine.
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the donovan thing was kind of confusing but i'm pretty sure the general conclusion is that it was indeed berra and he probably focused his own account...
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"oooohhhh, I am going to richer"
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Listen to Tim's commentary at 2:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frvNbh-7sx8
that was hillarious!!!!
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I actually like Donovan but this shit is just hilariously lame. Basically everyone on this board is a hater, they should just suck it up and deal with it. They can act out on it but it's not going to ever go their way.
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on the contrary, what's hilariously lame is that steve berra just can not accept that everyone in the world doesn't like him, or his business practices.
list for free, or for a one time cost (like you find in the back of the skateboard mag, transworld, etc...)
advertising - costs money
shop page - costs money
thats the way it should be. a couple of lines of text for a listing costs pennies... i mean come on...
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We need Steve Berra section up in this bitch.
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enough of these faggot berrics threads.
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this makes me so sick. you dont buy skate videos and you dont even skate. you dont buy any brand name product. the only ones even supporting us are 13 year olds with parents who shell out a lot of cash. even dave bachinsky is broke. and now its a big deal to sell ad space. jesus christ. amen.
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evidently slap is pretty significant considering all these guys obviously give a huge fuck about it.
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Where is the my penis on my forehead BORRICS DIS rap?
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list for free, or for a one time cost (like you find in the back of the skateboard mag, transworld, etc...)
advertising - costs money
shop page - costs money
thats the way it should be. a couple of lines of text for a listing costs pennies... i mean come on...
exactly.
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fuckin... dental plan
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no idea whats going on here but i want in.
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Yeah I missed this too and I'm not happy about it.
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http://www.skateboardmadness.nl/skatewinkel/images/stories/logos/berrics-logo.jpg
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4chan.org random section. Get a raid on the Theberrics.com goin.
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Please don't discredit Steve or the Berrics
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
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^^ Hilarious. Like a little pipsqueak chiming in.
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
amen to that
(http://www.able.org/about/l-ron-hubbard/images/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg)
praise the lord
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What?! Steve Borra and Josiah Gatlyn post on slap now!!! Sick nasty!
I hate you guys by the way.
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
(http://www.able.org/about/l-ron-hubbard/images/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg)
praise the lord
"You shall not make for yourself an idol or a likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them..." (Ex. 20:4,5a).
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O MAN AWAY FOR FEW DAYS WITH THE FAMILY AND I COME BACK TO INTERNET TERRORISTS AND E THUGS TALKIN SHIT ON US !
AHAHAHAHAH
WAS HE GOING TO ELECTRONICALLY BUST A CAP IN ONE OF US !
OR BETTER YET WITH HIS IPHONE GUN COLLECTION ! AHAHAHAHAH
FUCK YOU DONVAN CHOKE ON BORRAS DICK TODAY
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I think this just got biblical.
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I've lurked this board for quite a while now, and I didn't want to make an account, but now things are getting out of control people.
Why so much hate towards The Berrics, can't you people see the good things they have done for the skateboarding community?
They help out other shops, skateboarders and even pros like me. When Black Label turned its back on me, I had nowhere to go and yet Steve opened his arms to me and gave me a job at The Berrics. I could've said no, but why would I, they do nothing but good things for you people.
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I think this just got biblical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
(http://www.able.org/about/l-ron-hubbard/images/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg)
praise the lord
"You shall not make for yourself an idol or a likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them..." (Ex. 20:4,5a).
(http://nbcsportsmedia4.msnbc.com/j/NBCSports/Sections/Poker%20on%20NBC/Player%20Photos/Kaplan240.widec.jpg)
that fat dude reminds me of kotter
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why doesn't someone from the berrics just field the valid questions and points that were brought up?
i think it would make all of this go away.
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Berrics threads are the new shoe threads.
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let me care real quick. now that i've gotten that outta the way, you can kiss my corybungus
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i fucking love this place
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fuck ya'll craptalkers
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(http://www.able.org/about/l-ron-hubbard/images/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg)
(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/m/whos_your_caddy_240707/whos_your_caddy_16_wenn1477800.jpg)
jeffrey jones? ;D
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to avoid repeating what's already been mentioned, i'll point out how nicely reynolds' kickflip stuck to the wall. thing of beauty.
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ray bans look cooler, are better, and girls like them
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(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/Burrent/donovan.jpg)
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I agree with those guys
Best fake account of all time.
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berra
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8j6J_Ru68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8j6J_Ru68)
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Oh shit the pros are here!
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amen to that
Josiah. You, I, and the Lord need to have a talk.
Now we know your becoming a big boy now and your making some money but does that mean you dont have time for God? no.
Ever since you were a little boy, Josiah, we noticed you are attracted to woman. we've seen your boners , we saw the sears catalog page book mark in your bible. We can fix you, Josiah, we can fix you. Now Josiah, you can cum into my office any time for some fixin. recomended times are 10-11pm.
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Slap - So Hot Right Now
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Best thread!
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/b/ raid.
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(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/Burrent/donovan.jpg)
I'd have to say thats a well drawn penis.
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i'm getting some major second hand embarrassment from all these pointless berrics threads.
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90% of the Slap MB regulars can't kickflip up a curb. Enough said. Aside from a few, this place is a pool of posers, has beens, and never beens.
A collective group of wannabes that in real life wouldn't dare say a word.
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hahaha this is sick
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90% of the Slap MB regulars can't kickflip up a curb. Enough said. Aside from a few, this place is a pool of posers, has beens, and never beens.
A collective group of wannabes that in real life wouldn't dare say a word.
Reminds me of being in middle school again. Where there was always that one guy who had to call people posers and ruin skateboarding for a lot of kids. Now he's doing meth in alley somewhere. I'm almost 24 years old now. I've been skateboarding since I was 13. No, I can't go skate all day like I used to. I have to work, I have a kid and have other grown-up things to do, like a lot of people on this board do. But I still skate because it's fun. I post here because its fun. Dick.
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Can we get some more Spanky threads, please?
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/b/ raid.
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borra needs to stop being so sensitive
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
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4chan.org random section. Get a raid on the Theberrics.com goin.
mmm wouldnt it be more fun to just do it from slap
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Butter Tarts
(http://www.veganfamilyfavorites.com/images/desserts/vegan-butter-tarts-large.jpg)
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Butter Chicken
(http://2.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqarr6wtSP1qzs4iio1_500.jpg)
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wait, i've been on a 2 day bender... what did i miss?
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wait, i've been on a 2 day bender... what did i miss?
this is where it really gets good http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=40287.210
and all the other threads should really be inside this one. shit's getting out of control. too many retards who dont know whats going on are obliviously backing the borrics which is soon to be the next active/west49
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blah blah blah
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skateboarding shouldn't be this complicated haha
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As Oscar Wilde said,
Whats worse than people taking about you?
People not talking about you.
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Buttery Ass
(http://www.butlersporn.com/gs/thumbs/feed39/260/anal-tranny-48139905.jpg)
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man, regarding the berrics in general, all of these dudes are getting hooked up out the ass for producing these games of skate and any other exposure on the berrics website. jason lee buys ads with his fellow 'actor' and associate steve for jason's company, one back gets scratched as another gets gently licked.
maybe its just not spoken enough about how much the berrics is worth, but my guess is that within the year it could be worth 1.5 to 2 times more than it is now.
honestly I'm just surprised a 'rival' video interaction website involving skateboarding hasn't popped up yet. i know a lot of people on here bitch about the 'berrics' format and creative spin' (or lackthereof in some cases, I'm just an outside critic like the rest of us.)
would it be surprising if another site similar to the berrics became just as possible within the next year? probably not, attempts have already been made by other businesses like transworld and aren't NEARLY as popular.
but you never know...
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90% of the Slap MB regulars can't kickflip up a curb. Enough said. Aside from a few, this place is a pool of posers, has beens, and never beens.
A collective group of wannabes that in real life wouldn't dare say a word.
Wow, your life is very similar to mine. Im 24 and a father as well, my skating time is scheduled to monday nights and all day thursday at this point.
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to avoid repeating what's already been mentioned, i'll point out how nicely reynolds' kickflip stuck to the wall. thing of beauty.
That switch tailslide 270 was crazy.
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my opinion is that the berrics is the greatest thing to ever happen to skateboarding. jesus christ amen
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:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
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my opinion is that the berrics is the greatest thing to ever happen to skateboarding. jesus christ amen
If you stopped praying before every trick and hogging the stairs it would be better.
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my opinion is that the berrics is the greatest thing to ever happen to skateboarding. jesus christ amen
If you stopped praying before every trick and hogging the stairs it would be better.
billy, im getting sick and tired of your passive agressive crap, ok? you were the hot up-and-comer when? 2003? 2004? this is 2009. my time Billy. MY TIME. oh, and your multi-colored pants and weak trick selection aren't making the place much better, fyi. jesus christ. amen.
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(http://ui25.gamespot.com/2360/notlolwutpearuw5_2.jpg)
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Do they have skate camps there yet? I predict it'll be 8 grand to hang out with Donovan for week, with a daily visit from Xenu himself.
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Do they have skate camps there yet? I predict it'll be 8 grand to hang out with Donovan for week, with a daily visit from Xenu himself.
You're the first person to make a scientology reference about us ::)
You guys couldn't handle being with Donovan for a week...cowards
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my opinion is that the berrics is the greatest thing to ever happen to skateboarding. jesus christ amen
If you stopped praying before every trick and hogging the stairs it would be better.
billy, im getting sick and tired of your passive agressive crap, ok? you were the hot up-and-comer when? 2003? 2004? this is 2009. my time Billy. MY TIME. oh, and your multi-colored pants and weak trick selection aren't making the place much better, fyi. jesus christ. amen.
Weak trick selection?! If there's one thing that isn't weak it's my trick selection! I can do fucking double flips without looking, WITHOUT LOOKING! Come talk to me when you have your own tanning bed rookie.
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What is involved in healing a broken cheekbone???
BJ
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Do they have skate camps there yet? I predict it'll be 8 grand to hang out with Donovan for week, with a daily visit from Xenu himself.
You're the first person to make a scientology reference about us ::)
You guys couldn't handle being with Donovan for a week...cowards
lol, right boss..fools are mad for no reason...we doin what we do and they do what they do lol it aint bout nuthin anymore just leave it at dat, calls were made game over aint no scientology business we straight bout skatin
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(http://browsei.com/upload/Pictures/storage/chainsaw-launcher-weapon-rocket_big.jpg)
hey chek that out
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
you must have a pretty shitty life if you have to spend a substantial portion of your time on a forum with people that you hate.
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
Hating you guys is what makes my life fulfilled. I want you guys to stop being lame, but in actuality if you guys stop being loser, social reject, unfunny cornball, sucky skateboarders, my life would probably cease to exist.
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is this the confessions thread? ok
my whole life i wanted to be a real spot...it's all i've ever wanted :'( :'( :'(
look at how much this yellow rail gets skated!!!!
(http://www.oneloveskateshop.com/images/peeps/Bizo4.jpg)
and look how glorious this one is >:(
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0827/as_skate_ollytest_576.jpg)
i talked to my owner once and we tried to fulfill my dream of being a real spot, but he ruined it by leaving me in his private skatepark blowing my cover...i guess i'm just jealous though
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Ya know... if you guys could stop the fighting for just a minute; I need a few more dramatic HD shots of your glistening faces.
Chi-town pride
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is this the confessions thread? ok
my whole life i wanted to be a real spot...it's all i've ever wanted :'( :'( :'(
look at how much this yellow rail gets skated!!!!
(http://www.oneloveskateshop.com/images/peeps/Bizo4.jpg)
and look how glorious this one is >:(
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0827/as_skate_ollytest_576.jpg)
i talked to my owner once and we tried to fulfill my dream of being a real spot, but he ruined it by leaving me in his private skatepark blowing my cover...i guess i'm just jealous though
u again? whose side are you on? listen here.. if you dont quit your god damned bitching your going to be a rusted piece of steal abandoned outside the berrics warehouse. do you understand? and dont think this is some meaningless threat either. rails are plentiful in los angeles, and ive had my eye on a blue rail we found for ages now. you dont even match the color scheme of the park. jesus christ amen.
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(http://browsei.com/upload/Pictures/storage/chainsaw-launcher-weapon-rocket_big.jpg)
hey chek that out
vince the stud i think you're my favorite poster.
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u again? whose side are you on? listen here.. if you dont quit your god damned bitching your going to be a rusted piece of steal abandoned outside the berrics warehouse. do you understand? and dont think this is some meaningless threat either. rails are plentiful in los angeles, and ive had my eye on a blue rail we found for ages now. you dont even match the color scheme of the park. jesus christ amen.
you dont know what its like to be me! look at what they did to me
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/120/picture26p.png)
i was made a mockery of!!!!!
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
Your life should cease to exist
Kill yaself
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u again? whose side are you on? listen here.. if you dont quit your god damned bitching your going to be a rusted piece of steal abandoned outside the berrics warehouse. do you understand? and dont think this is some meaningless threat either. rails are plentiful in los angeles, and ive had my eye on a blue rail we found for ages now. you dont even match the color scheme of the park. jesus christ amen.
you dont know what its like to be me! look at what they did to me
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/120/picture26p.png)
i was made a mockery of!!!!!
sorry yellow flatbar. i just got a little heated after reading these athiests posts here. forgive and forget. we'll work on making you into a real spot soon.
a real spot in line at the melting facility. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
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lotta yall never had a boss like steve. jelous haters, bunch of em. koston is the best skateboarder of all time. everyone knows that i dont see wut the hate is you get footy we do what we do an all that you never complained hell half of yall prolly dont even know a skate shop owner u just need somethin to cry bout. make new internet skater memes shit is old get a life fool i got so much fame from berrics why i gotta sit back an let my bosses get hated on shit aint fair for them they do everything they can for yall and yall shit on em like its a bowl uh bloody pussy juice uh something lol shit nasty ha but still shit aint fair for none of the boys involved yall just haters PM if you got beef with me. the celebrity centre account is done dats all we wanted cause that shit was a bunch of fake shit makin false claims aint no body should be allowed to do stuff like that but w/e we got it done aint no problem just stop hatin on shit that keeps all yall fools entertained daily w/e can't change the world but yall haters gotta stop one uh these days shit is gay. late
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I heard Josiah was touched by his preacher
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todd falcon is the best skateboarder of all time dickhole.
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lotta yall never had a boss like steve. jelous haters, bunch of em. koston is the best skateboarder of all time. everyone knows that i dont see wut the hate is you get footy we do what we do an all that never complained hell half of yall prolly dont even know a skate shop owner u just need somethin to cry bout. make new internet skater memes shit is old get a life fool i got so much fame from berrics why i gotta sit back an let my bosses get hated on shit dieaint fair for them they do everything they can for yall and yall shit on em like its a bowl uh bloody pussy juice uh something lol shit nasty ha but still shit aint fai for none of the boys involved yall just haters PM if you got beef with me. the celebrity centre account is done dats all we wanted cause that shit was a bunch of fake shit makin false claims aint no body should be allowed to do stuff like that but w/e we got it done aint no problem just stop hatin on shit that keeps all yall fools entertained daily w/e can't change the world but yall haters gotta stop one uh these days shit is. late
your gay
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lotta yall never had a boss like steve. jelous haters, bunch of em. koston is the best skateboarder of all time. everyone knows that i dont see wut the hate is you get footy we do what we do an all that you never complained hell half of yall prolly dont even know a skate shop owner u just need somethin to cry bout. make new internet skater memes shit is old get a life fool i got so much fame from berrics why i gotta sit back an let my bosses get hated on shit aint fair for them they do everything they can for yall and yall shit on em like its a bowl uh bloody pussy juice uh something lol shit nasty ha but still shit aint fair for none of the boys involved yall just haters PM if you got beef with me. the celebrity centre account is done dats all we wanted cause that shit was a bunch of fake shit makin false claims aint no body should be allowed to do stuff like that but w/e we got it done aint no problem just stop hatin on shit that keeps all yall fools entertained daily w/e can't change the world but yall haters gotta stop one uh these days shit is gay. late
thats some buttery-ass punctuation
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lotta yall never had a boss like steve. jelous haters, bunch of em. koston is the best skateboarder of all time. everyone knows that i dont see wut the hate is you get footy we do what we do an all that you never complained hell half of yall prolly dont even know a skate shop owner u just need somethin to cry bout. make new internet skater memes shit is old get a life fool i got so much fame from berrics why i gotta sit back an let my bosses get hated on shit aint fair for them they do everything they can for yall and yall shit on em like its a bowl uh bloody pussy juice uh something lol shit nasty ha but still shit aint fair for none of the boys involved yall just haters PM if you got beef with me. the celebrity centre account is done dats all we wanted cause that shit was a bunch of fake shit makin false claims aint no body should be allowed to do stuff like that but w/e we got it done aint no problem just stop hatin on shit that keeps all yall fools entertained daily w/e can't change the world but yall haters gotta stop one uh these days shit is gay. late
its dope that you finally used a full stop in all of that shit.
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Guys, you all should know, that is NOT the real yellow flatbar making those posts. Its some sort of imposter. Admit you are a fake account right now yellow flatbar!!!!
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
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whoever this is you are so bored. nothin wrong with church every now and then however
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ha yall would be talkin bout my punctiation and shit. ima skater, have been for a long long time and im takin care of myself through it you think i care bout how i type? lol yall are wacker than i thought but keep hatin, you can do it to me w/e just as long as yall fools aint trying to copy steve or eric then there aint no real beef. but if yall gonna hate on me expect to be hated on back lol. just how it goes always has been always will
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
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HAHAhaha. What makes this so funny is that your real account is probably nowhere near as good as this one, because you're a dull, bland piece of shit lame. You have to imitate people to get any kind of reaction out of people because on your real account your herbness shines through so brightly.
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
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this IS my real account darky. i am calling your black ass out. why dont you exit your compton subsidized "crib," take public transportation over here to LA, and play me man to man in a game of s-k-a-t-e. you will never be on my level you wack bitch, and if you think a treflip noseslide on a shitty curb is going to get you there, you are sadly mistaken. jesus christ amen
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don't mind me just trying to close the gap to pal status. proceed...
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This berrics vs slap shit is really displaying slaps lack of humor
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myself vs slap shit is really displaying my lack of humor
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
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this IS my real account darky. i am calling your black ass out. why dont you exit your compton subsidized "crib," take public transportation over here to LA, and play me man to man in a game of s-k-a-t-e. you will never be on my level you wack bitch, and if you think a treflip noseslide on a shitty curb is going to get you there, you are sadly mistaken. jesus christ amen
If i find out your other account, you're on my "punch in face if seen in person" list.
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
I been saying half of these clowns are in the closet. racially and sexually.
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donovan actually used to have an account.
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This berrics vs slap shit is really displaying slaps lack of humor
You got mocked by transworld. I find it funny, you probably don't.
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How was it being mocked? they said i was young? You see that as an insult? The fact that he even read my posts and felt the need to comment about me in a major publication is a compliment to me.
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This berrics vs slap shit is really displaying slaps lack of humor
fyi when a major player in the industry like myself talks about you, it isn't always a good thing. jesus christ amen
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Yes, this is true!!! we are all cool now!! its Saturday night, go get faded!
gotta do what the admins say.
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I'm pretty sure ignorant was the key to what they were saying. They don't actually know how old you are.
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It's pretty sad the you, a teacher, have such shitty reading comprehension.
Yet, for the younger readers out there (yeah, that's you COTG), looking back today and wondering exactly why old men far and wide see God's gift to skateboarding in such a soft-spoken, beard, XXL-clad nomad currently residing in Argentina--or is that throughout Europe?--I can understand, or at least pardon, some confusion.
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Best fake account of all time.
His email is [email protected]
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
that account bums me the fuck out.
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Ya know... I've seen your footage mister COTG. It looks like you could benefit from a proper filmer. Do you know that I work at the Berrics? Have you seen my independent video Strive? I understand from the spots that you skate that you're living in the LA area. I feel that this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. I charge $35/hour for the first 3-hour filming session, and $30/hour after that.
Chi-town pride
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
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http://jurassicparkwtf.ytmnd.com/
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That montage was fucking epic.
Edit: I must have been distracted by the apple pie I was eating during my first viewing and missed it, but did Shane O'Neill just do a switch flip back tail backside heel out? AND a bigspin 5-0 on a handrail? Seriously?
bigspin howard grind, shanes pants seem have gotten looser, which looks better on him. he doesnt look as robot looking either.
Ellingtons switch flip shifty!!
Ellington is the best and the Boss is THE BOSS.
no, i see it too. he's no longer wearing a new era, and he looks pleasantly plumper, and has some sketch as compared to his usual on point skating. have always & still like him though.
i was debating mentioning it actually, until i realized Psych Out mentioned his looser fitting pants. so i thought i'd toss in the clothing area.
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Best fake account of all time.
Nice, now see if he has a myspace!
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honor blackman.
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
got a vivid picture of that in my mind. still laughing.
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
I actually agree with you on this.
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
that account bums me the fuck out.
yeah the GOD DAMNED Berrics-gate '09 really opened a floodgate for lame-ass fake accounts
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
I actually agree with you on this.
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i hate steve berra and steve berra hates me.
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Kindu think steve berra, ron hubbard..
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I think this just got biblical.
And a little wierd too!
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
i wish that you would shut your big black mouth and maybe attend church every once in a while. the only way you could ever get ahead of me in the skate game is maybe through affirmative action. see you in the berrics..
NOT
this IS my real account darky. i am calling your black ass out. why dont you exit your compton subsidized "crib," take public transportation over here to LA, and play me man to man in a game of s-k-a-t-e. you will never be on my level you wack bitch, and if you think a treflip noseslide on a shitty curb is going to get you there, you are sadly mistaken. jesus christ amen
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somebody using their fake account to say racist shit, good one!
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so what the deal, berrics team focused their account
how can people actually stand up for scientology though 100% that is some greedy money grabbing type shit
triple fist the world up shit
hopefully they die soon
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so. i been out a few days and i'm back to this shit? i read all the berra shit and the donovan shit and the funny thing is, they keep bringing up all the shit that we said was cool already(videos, the price of advertising, free content etc.) and acting like they got hated for it. when actually, the only thing they got hated for was the ONE thing they never addressed explicitly.
the fact that the first video was obviously pushing the idea that he was doing something for core shops from the goodness of his heart and it wasn't clear at all that this involved the core shops paying for it.
the other question that i've been really itching to ask is: when you mention "core shops" people obviously take notice as that label means a whole lot in skateboarding (whether it should or not is a different discussion). if you're making a list of the core shops and that's what this advertising campaign is all about, who's doing the QA? who decides if the shop is core, and how? and that's an honest question, not loaded at all. i'd really like to know an honest answer.
i don't care about the celebrity centre account or an unsponsored skater's empty threats of exposure. donovan, you're good on a board, but get real. you couldn't bust a grape. and no one here even cares enough to watch you try. we care about skateboarding and when someone does good shit for skateboarding, we call it. when shit is suspect, we call it (and you know that first vid was SUSPECT). there were plenty of threads here praising the berrics for what we like. and plenty here lately for the lame shit y'all have been doing. i think some of it is overblown in both categories, but it seems you only complain about one. if you want a real adult opinion, you should get someone to man a berrics account here on the SLAP boards and call it market research instead of fucking acting like children yourselves. okay steve, you're actually acting like a privileged teen, but you get my point. a little interaction goes a long way in real life/biz and you might even come to value some of the opinions here and learn to ignore others like most of us do. otherwise, you'll only hear about the flame wars and only come here when you're being shit on and get the wrong idea. or you could just not care.
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I hope you guys don't think saying borra is funny. You guys are so fucking corny. I hate you people.
you should really read "Catcher in the Rye". the guy is like you exactly. he is always saying how he hates when "people laugh at things that are unfunny". i fucking hate it too dont get me wrong.
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fuck you black flys used to have naked chicks in their big brother ads
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What?! Steve Borra and Josiah Gatlyn post on slap now!!! Sick nasty!
I hate you guys by the way.
Aww look at Ari trying to fit in around here. You're still the biggest kook to ever come to these boards, so don't even try to talk shit on Steven.
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What?! Steve Borra and Josiah Gatlyn post on slap now!!! Sick nasty!
I hate you guys by the way.
Aww look at Ari trying to fit in around here. You're still the biggest kook to ever come to these boards, so don't even try to talk shit on Steven.
What makes you think I'm Ari? Because I'm not bitter towards him? I think I've been fairly clear that I'm a cacka local.
And you're a bigger kook than that guy will ever be. I don't have anything against him, he sponsored legit skater organized events, gave out free grip, and donates to skate-related charities. Even if I don't believe in that magic shit I'd skate his grip if it was available to me.
Speaking of Ari, anyone catch the p-grip ad in the new lowcard. Magical grip panties?
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This berrics vs slap shit is really displaying slaps lack of humor
fyi when a major player in the industry like myself talks about you, it isn't always a good thing. jesus christ amen
Josiah you mother lover your in some big butt trouble.
what did i tell you abot message boarding?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
Wow, dude seems like a total goon. I've heard some other hilariously regular stories about him
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
hahahahazhahahahahaha classic schizo. words cannot properly express how i feel about him. i have too many stories about him, and they'e all ridiculous. he's an amazing person on paper or after the fact, but he's a nightmare when you're with him
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STRAIN your times tickin..DONOVAN, you should get BERRA to man up before your SIMIY VALY residence exposed..no PROS excluded
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER SCRUB WALKING FREE. I HAD BETTER NOT CATCH DONOVAN OR HIS LITTLE SISSY CLUB IN MY GODDAMN DISTRICT AGAIN OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!!!!
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
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Haha, anybody who has met this dude has a story like that. so good. He tried to slowly move himself into my friends apartment by first starting to keep a backpack there for a few hours.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
I would enjoy hearing some of these stories if you have the time to tell them.
Nate Keegan told me he was screaming at some Aquarium locals about how fitted caps are gay and then shows up with one three days later telling everyone that they bit his style.
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
dude, god doesnt exist.
get over it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pD5HyX5Js
ugh, i met this dude when i was skating around san diego 8 or 9 years ago. we were supposed to go skating but all he ended up doing was dragging us to the mall to watch him steal underwear. real class act.
Nate Keegan told me he was screaming at some Aquarium locals about how fitted caps are gay and then shows up with one three days later telling everyone that they bit his style.
i'll list a few that i can think off of the top of my head
i was with him when he was capturing footage for that massacre part you posted, and he kept blabbing on and on about how he wanted them to put the footage of him fucking that girl with the circa shirt in the video. at that point he had been staying out at the shortys park. matt roman, the owner of coliseum at the time bought him a plane ticket out there, some time later muska bought him a ticket to get the fuck out of california and matt met him at the airport and handed him a ticket to go right back
i can't remember the story but he was claiming to be going to japan to film gangstarr music videos
i was told to never say him name three times in a row because something bad would happen, like if you said bettlejuices name three times in a row. i jokingly said it and the phone started to ring after i finished. i picked it up to get a "YO. IT"S FUCKING SCHIZO. I"M COMING DOWN. I'LL BE THERE IN AN HOUR" and sure enough he was there five minutes later. he was there hitting on my friends fifteen/sixteen year old girlfriend(this was years ago)
he brought a steak knife to coliseum wrapped up in a newspaper once because he wanted to cut off this kid wild will's tongue. we threw it on the roof
he would come into the shop demanding free stuff and money because everyone got paid for wonderful horrible life, but he thought the thousand bucks he got wasn't enough. he thought that the video really sold over a million copies despite that being on the cover the first day the video came out
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This berrics vs slap shit is really displaying slaps lack of humor
fyi when a major player in the industry like myself talks about you, it isn't always a good thing. jesus christ amen
what did i tell you abot message boarding?
Whoever is doing the fake god account should learn the difference between your and you're. Idiot
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seriously, can someone give me the cliff's notes version of all the donovan/berra stuff? i was gone for thanksgiving break and now im confused.
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yeah dude... not cool. the slap magazine forums, so full of haters and craptalkers, should be apologizing to steve. we are bring you this content FOR FREE. jesus christ amen
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praise the lord
"You shall not make for yourself an idol or a likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them..." (Ex. 20:4,5a).
And yet you worship Jesus Christ?
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awesome pic and awesome avatar.
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ima just say it. SHUTUP josiah.
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See that kids? We make 1 phone call and now your shit is merged and diluted. No one can even tell you're trying your best to get under our skin now. Talk more shit and it'll be deleted altogether. Ask Donovan if we fuck around
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Who mocked him in transworld, why did i miss this?
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seriously, can someone give me the cliff's notes version of all the donovan/berra stuff? i was gone for thanksgiving break and now im confused.
this was from page 14 and added some events since..
i'll give you the executive summary...
berra announces the unified program
everyone on the 1st couple of pages says its cool idea
he says the shops who sign up will be core and important
then we find out hes trying to charge shops $600 a year for a simple directory listing,
now they too can be labeled core and important by the berrics, awesome!
then come to find out that he wants some ridiculous amount of money to run actual ads.
he wasn't upfront about any of it, he tried to make it sound like he was helping out the small shops but really helping himself to some of their money.
this rubs everyone the wrong way and all hell breaks loose
this is followed by a bunch of posts about scientology and berra hate
people begin to question his motives and his agenda which is pretty much, money
so he releases another video explaining it more thoroughly followed by koston telling everyone to go fuck their faces
people understand it but doesn't change the shit he said/did, plus now everyone knows kostons a dick too
i might be off with the order of events on this one but then the berrics announces that west 49, the canadian version of zumiez as one of its "core" and "important" shops....talk about a kick in the nuts to all the shops that signed up already for his core program.
more hate and bitching continue of all things berra and berrics
people ask more valid questions followed by more berra/scientology hate
he or one of his followers show up to defend himself but refuses to answer the tough questions.
this goes on for a while until berra get pissed that theres a fake berra posting on slap
donovan strain starts tweeting(i can't believe i just typed that) threats and how hes going to release pals personal info.
but of course no one really gives a rat ass and his bluff gets called.
thats when berra or whoever called up slap and out of nowhere, some admin shows up and deletes the celebrity centre acct.
so in true slap fashion, more fake accounts emerge, namely dudes who follow donovans tweets(again, i can't believe i had to type that)
then more berrics hate threads pop up, more craziness ensues so the threads are merged into one and here we are.
the bitchfest has died down some but none of what berra(and koston, he doesn't get a free pass) are trying to pull will ever be forgetton by anyone for a long while. theres no way shops around the country haven't gotten word on what the real deal and the real deal is simple, thye want your money but they were trying to be sneaky and unhanded about getting it. helping shops out by charging $600 for a simple listing is all sorts of wrong no matter how you slice it.
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seriously, can someone give me the cliff's notes version of all the donovan/berra stuff? i was gone for thanksgiving break and now im confused.
this was from page 14 and added some events since..
i'll give you the executive summary...
berra announces the unified program
everyone on the 1st couple of pages says its cool idea
he says the shops who sign up will be core and important
then we find out hes trying to charge shops $600 a year for a simple directory listing,
now they too can be labeled core and important by the berrics, awesome!
then come to find out that he wants some ridiculous amount of money to run actual ads.
he wasn't upfront about any of it, he tried to make it sound like he was helping out the small shops but really helping himself to some of their money.
this rubs everyone the wrong way and all hell breaks loose
this is followed by a bunch of posts about scientology and berra hate
people begin to question his motives and his agenda which is pretty much, money
so he releases another video explaining it more thoroughly followed by koston telling everyone to go fuck their faces
people understand it but doesn't change the shit he said/did, plus now everyone knows kostons a dick too
i might be off with the order of events on this one but then the berrics announces that west 49, the canadian version of zumiez as one of its "core" and "important" shops....talk about a kick in the nuts to all the shops that signed up already for his core program.
more hate and bitching continue of all things berra and berrics
people ask more valid questions followed by more berra/scientology hate
he or one of his followers show up to defend himself but refuses to answer the tough questions.
this goes on for a while until berra get pissed that theres a fake berra posting on slap
donovan strain starts tweeting(i can't believe i just typed that) threats and how hes going to release pals personal info.
but of course no one really gives a rat ass and his bluff gets called.
thats when berra or whoever called up slap and out of nowhere, some admin shows up and deletes the celebrity centre acct.
so in true slap fashion, more fake accounts emerge, namely dudes who follow donovans tweets(again, i can't believe i had to type that)
then more berrics hate threads pop up, more craziness ensues so the threads are merged into one and here we are.
the bitchfest has died down some but none of what berra(and koston, he doesn't get a free pass) are trying to pull will ever be forgetton by anyone for a long while. theres no way shops around the country haven't gotten word on what the real deal and the real deal is simple, thye want your money but they were trying to be sneaky and unhanded about getting it. helping shops out by charging $600 for a simple listing is all sorts of wrong no matter how you slice it.
you forgot to mention the berrics now has a team supporting their canteen, which is possibly turning into a skateshop/online shop? also i get the impression that steve is covering up the "canteen" which is really a shop supported by a superstar-status team, which could make the berrics the next mall sized shop.
edit: sorry for the redundance, 12h day at school working on essays
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i didn't even catch all that, i was away for most of yesterday.
you're right, maybe in the next couple of months, the berrics can be found at a mall nearest you.
way to go steve, you're one step away from being a pac-sun!
you're so core dude, a core capitalist that is.
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We're out doing something, you're sitting safe behind your computer - that's the difference between us and all of you who can't see the good in this.
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xenu would be proud. once he breaks out of space jail him and steve can finally catch up and steve can bitch to him about how SLAP is hurting his feelings...
(http://www.lermanet.com/image/southpark-xenu.jpg)
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Is the opposite of a 'hater' one who denies?
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I think people would atleast die down if the berrics came out and said publicily that it wasn't their place to enter the shop market.
I think the only way to go about doing that would be to stick strickly with the west 49 deal, or cut it off with them completely and work only with shops, you know, the same type of shops you were brought up with, that probably 99% of the dudes who appear on the berrics should gratefully be backing.
its all about the $$$$ in these hard times...can't get too down on the berrics for going with the bigger, more consistant suppliers. after thinking about what I could do to help change things all I really figured I can do is give up watching the berrics. my loss for now, I love being able to watch current footage of people right at my computer but I know the whole online skatevideo/creative scene in general deserves to pop up sooner than later!
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If you read Koston's twitter, you'll realize times really aren't that tough for everyone.
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We're out doing something, you're sitting safe behind your computer - that's the difference between us and all of you who can't see the good in this.
you're out doing something alright, selling out.
go sign another oakley contract on your way back from signing the zumiez one mr zumiez team rider, then follow it up with a nike one when you're coming back from signing west 49 in canada. those companies totally suck right, you'd never ride for them would you, you're too core and all about supporting the core shops right?
hiding? ha, all my personal info is out there, my real name, my real address, my likes, my dislikes, my confessions, my life is an open book, find it and you'll find me.
oh you got it all wrong, i can see the good in this, we can ALL see the good in this, when did $600 not look good?
for years you've gotten a free pass from everyone(myself included) but no more. you and your partner steve(take that however you want to) are money grubbing whores, because under it all you're just like all the other rich people out there, simply out to get richer off the backs of others. please feel free to have a nice cold glass of shut the fuck up and if you don't like it, go fuck your face.
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I'm like... 50 percent sure that koston account is a fake, Faster
nice job on the breakdown of the situation, though
I thought I liked Koston, I really wish he'd stop saying mean shit to me.
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I'm like... 50 percent sure that koston account is a fake, Faster
nice job on the breakdown of the situation, though
I thought I liked Koston, I really wish he'd stop saying mean shit to me.
only 50?
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I'm like... 50 percent sure that koston account is a fake, Faster
nice job on the breakdown of the situation, though
I thought I liked Koston, I really wish he'd stop saying mean shit to me.
only 50?
i didn't realize i had to have a fake account to have my fun too.
it doesn't really matter because that fools reading this one way or the other.
fuck his face!
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I'm like... 50 percent sure that koston account is a fake, Faster
nice job on the breakdown of the situation, though
I thought I liked Koston, I really wish he'd stop saying mean shit to me.
only 50?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dSZ36A0-GBI/SYey8cuaxZI/AAAAAAAACQw/JQwh9aQH0hA/s400/sarcasm+meter.jpg)
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this IS my real account darky. i am calling your black ass out.
dude, if this IS you, thats fuken ridiculous what your saying.... i dont care how mad you are...seriously, your fuked up man...
do you want to be known as a racist?
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If all this is true, I think The Berrics are making smart moves.
Those guys realise they've already lasted longer as pros than most. They have the captive audience. They have the credibility. They could be a big success if they started an online mail order service on a grand scale. People are always waxing lyrical about how we should support skater-owned companies. That's exactly what The Berrics is.
I appreciate that this will be an inconvenience for smaller independent shops. But competition makes the world go round. Without it, we'd probably all still be trundling down hills on clay wheels. Or livin' the good life as single cell organisms.
Besides, I reckon The Berrics would put a much bigger dent in the sales of companies like Zumiez.
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this IS my real account darky. i am calling your black ass out.
dude, if this IS you, thats fuken ridiculous what your saying.... i dont care how mad you are...seriously, your fuked up man...
do you want to be known as a racist?
It's such a fake account! Josiah Gatlyn rides for Stereo who is headed up by Chris Pastras who is... BLACK. Josiah Gatlyn may be naive but could he be THAT dumb? I think not. Well hope not anyway!
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there are no real accounts on here anymore
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There are two main types of Satanism, classical Satanism and neo-Satanism. Although Scientology contains many elements of neo-Satanism this forum will focus on the classical elements.
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wait how did you do that? how did you combine all the threads into 1???? craze
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For anyone who hasn't seen this.
This is what scientologists actually believe.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104274
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wait how did you do that?
Scientologist John Travolta married fellow Scientologist Kelly Preston in what seemed like convenient timing, just after the National Enquirer ran a story about an alleged two-year homosexual affair between the actor and a male porn star.
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I'm making a list and Faster is on it. I sip lattes while you sip the backwash from your mom's unfinished beers. That sums you up.
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its sad this is 27 pages
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I was having lunch when I overheard two female patrons, one American and one Irish, having a spat. Now, other people's arguments in public fall into two broad categories, for the onlooker: Uncomfortable, and Entertaining.
I hadn't realised a chain coffee shop could even claim a religion, let alone offend anyone with it. I had assumed this emphatic lady's rationale for avoiding Starbucks would be something similar to mine -- a few too many troubling experiences with the rancid concoction they insist on calling hot chocolate. But paganism? Oh, this was good.
"Haven't you ever noticed their logo?" America continued, oblivious to my flabbergated self. "It's a..." her voice dropped to a whisper. "A Siren!"
On the way home, I passed a Starbucks, and examined that green circle more closely. Siren, I didn't get. No wings, for a start. But, I thought, she could definitely be a mermaid.
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Berra's phone bill must have been regular this month.
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Berra's phone bill must have been regular this month.
He will probably have to charge shops more now. :P
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Berra's phone bill must have been regular this month.
i wouldn't worry, the shops listed on his site is paying that bill.
I'm making a list and Faster is on it. I sip lattes while you sip the backwash from your mom's unfinished beers. That sums you up.
i'm both excited and disturbed being on your list.
i didn't think i was core enough or important enough?
and in case your being perverted, i have chris hansen on my speed dial so don't get any funny ideas.
you should know santa has you on his list but you've been naughty this year.
this means neff isn't going to ask you to sign another contract.
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man this whole situation is fucked.
i wonder if their phone got blown out & the next text yourself will be full of "fuck you berra"
haha
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They need more sexting on the text yo selfs
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i have chris hansen on my speed dial so don't get any funny ideas.
He better show up now thats the only reason i get on slap.
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I've always been a fan of Koston, but his whole "fuk ur face" campaign is an abomination. dude literally drops that phrase at anything he isn't psyched on. Even though it's not directed at me, it still pisses me off.
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As long as you look at your friends right after, and they laugh uncomfortably... it's always funny.
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If all this is true, I think The Berrics are making smart moves.
Those guys realise they've already lasted longer as pros than most. They have the captive audience. They have the credibility. They could be a big success if they started an online mail order service on a grand scale. People are always waxing lyrical about how we should support skater-owned companies. That's exactly what The Berrics is.
I appreciate that this will be an inconvenience for smaller independent shops. But competition makes the world go round. Without it, we'd probably all still be trundling down hills on clay wheels. Or livin' the good life as single cell organisms.
Besides, I reckon The Berrics would put a much bigger dent in the sales of companies like Zumiez.
Sure, its smart for the berrics. But is it right? Just because you have the potential of grabbing a huge chunk of the market share doesn't mean you should.
What about all the local shops that sponsor kids? Theyll have less money to support those skaters. The berrics won't be sponsoring kids from across the country, sure there'll be a few (kids like josiah or corey kennedy), but there will be less shops, with less money to spend on kids and events. Where would most of the skaters be today if they hadn't had a local shop? Most of them wouldn't be here or in the position theyr in. I know if it wasn't for my local shop, I wouldn't have be skating for as long as I have been.
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how isn't this in classic slap yet?
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQTaXY6eP8&feature=player_embedded
like I've said many times before, FUCK YOU STEVE BERRA
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i was kind of stoked on the whole fuck your face thing actually. kinda GG-ish. it was the only thing in that whole video that seemed like a skater would say it. and most of the time i feel the same way so i can't knock him for it. i laughed, but maybe it just me. fuck it, he should've just let Koston punk rock that shit from the beginning and we wouldn't even be here. i mean, if the first video went like,
"look mutherfuckers, if you own a shop you know how hard it is to get the word out, right? well every little snotbag on earth watches our shit and if you want them to know you're the shit then pay us waaay less than you'd pay the stupid yellow pages and we'll blow your spot the fuck up. and if you don't like it, you can fuck your face!"
superimpose the pricelist and comparisons over rioting children in the streets while Koston rants and it would've been gangster as hell, honest and kinda funny. can you tell me we'd have 24 pages of hate about that? nope.
instead they did the weak shit and it came out suspect as hell. but it ain't the end of the world, and i gotta say they're still putting out more good than bad on that site. maybe it's just time for a new director on those direct conversation spots?
k
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There's nothing GG-ish about Koston. It actually sounded like something Andy Dick would say.
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this is to the tune of bite it you scum by gg allin
I WANT YOU TO SPEND YOUR CASH
SO PUT MY PRO MODEL ON YOUR FOOT
I DONT NEED YOUR COWARD-ASS SHIT
SLAP MESSAGE-BOARD, GO EAT SHIT
BUY IT, YOU SCUM
BUY IT, YOU SCUM
TALKING SHIT ON MY OAKLEY GLASS
I GOT MONEY, COMIN OUT MY ASS
BUY IT YOU SCUM
BUY IT YOU SCUM
FULLY FLARED WAS COMBO TRICKS
NIKE VID, ILL CUT YOUR DICKS
SO BUY IT, YOU SCUM
BUY IT, YOU SCUM
:D
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i would be way more stoked if baker/deathwish had a park with weekly updates, even if it wasnt skating half the time
or crailtap
or anti hero
have every guy on the team do a segment every week make them earn the dough
1 trick every single week then you never have to put out no video part ever again
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i would be way more stoked if baker/deathwish had a park with weekly updates, even if it wasnt skating half the time
or crailtap
or anti hero
have every guy on the team do a segment every week make them earn the dough
1 trick every single week then you never have to put out no video part ever again
Crailtap does have weekly videos they just aren't all from the same park.
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i would be way more stoked if baker/deathwish had a park with weekly updates, even if it wasnt skating half the time
or crailtap
or anti hero
have every guy on the team do a segment every week make them earn the dough
1 trick every single week then you never have to put out no video part ever again
www.bakerboysdist.com
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
check the last page
im fully over the berrics. i hope more people are boycotting this shit as well.
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http://www.shanepowers.com/2009/12/attn-all-of-us.html#comments
I wonder if Steve put him into this
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
check the last page
im fully over the berrics. i hope more people are boycotting this shit as well.
I definitely am. Haven't checked it in a while now.
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
check the last page
im fully over the berrics. i hope more people are boycotting this shit as well.
I definitely am. Haven't checked it in a while now.
samesies.
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
Yeah, we covered it. They are doing it for the money.
The expanded canteen and the united shit is so awful. Funny thing is, if Donovan didn't have a shit fit, I wouldn't have followed this thread or noticed what was going on at all. Probably would have stuck with the position that Berra is a dork, but harmless.
I don't blame him on the Scientology tip still, as far as I have read, Scientology is basically an extortion scam where most of the members are victims rather than perpetrators
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berra has to have tons of money. everything in the canteen is overpriced, especially the 25 dollar berrics shirts. those prolly cost 2 bucks to get made
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the bigger canteen is just a slower loading activemailorder.com.
i just checked out that canteen and that thing is a full blown shop. maybe this was already covered somewhere, but i don't understand the purpose of berrics unified if they are promoting their own mailorder.
The expanded canteen and the united shit is so awful. Funny thing is, if Donovan didn't have a shit fit, I wouldn't have followed this thread or noticed what was going on at all. Probably would have stuck with the position that Berra is a dork, but harmless.
I don't blame him on the Scientology tip still, as far as I have read, Scientology is basically an extortion scam where most of the members are victims rather than perpetrators
I'm sure this is definitely the case. Even within Evangelical Christianity (which I had alot of experience with growing up) there was this HUGE Prosperity Movement within the church where they taught that God wanted everyone to be super rich. They taught this while simultaneously teaching that the Church should get at least 10% of your total income (my parents still do this...which is FUCKED). They encouraged and supported conservative fiscal policies that promoted big business because they knew a huge portion would coming their way.
I can guarantee Scientology encourages their members to be as financially successful as possible without considering any moral or ethical business practices because they will get a huge chunk of it.
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I love you Steve! You too Eric and Grand Master D...
(http://i49.tinypic.com/1zxnq8p.jpg)
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THEY STILL HAVENT GIVEN ME MY FUCKING MYBERRICS ACCOUNT BACK YET AND "CELEBRITY CENTER" TOLD ME I WOULD BE GETTING IT BACK. WTF!!!
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posting in an already-trash thread to win a fucking skateboard
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posting in an already-trash thread to win a fucking skateboard
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i totally missed the boat on this whole berrics/slap beef.
can someone briefly fill me in on what the deal is and how this all got started?
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they started it
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i totally missed the boat on this whole berrics/slap beef.
can someone briefly fill me in on what the deal is and how this all got started?
i'll give you the executive summary...
berra announces the unified program
everyone on the 1st couple of pages says its cool idea
he says the shops who sign up will be core and important
then we find out hes trying to charge shops $600 a year for a simple directory listing,
now they too can be labeled core and important by the berrics, awesome!
then come to find out that he wants some ridiculous amount of money to run actual ads.
he wasn't upfront about any of it, he tried to make it sound like he was helping out the small shops but really helping himself to some of their money.
this rubs everyone the wrong way and all hell breaks loose
this is followed by a bunch of posts about scientology and berra hate
people begin to question his motives and his agenda which is pretty much, money
so he releases another video explaining it more thoroughly followed by koston telling everyone to go fuck their faces
people understand it but doesn't change the shit he said/did, plus now everyone knows kostons a dick too
i might be off with the order of events on this one but then the berrics announces that west 49, the canadian version of zumiez as one of its "core" and "important" shops....talk about a kick in the nuts to all the shops that signed up already for his core program.
more hate and bitching continue of all things berra and berrics
people ask more valid questions followed by more berra/scientology hate
he or one of his followers show up to defend himself but refuses to answer the tough questions.
this goes on for a while until berra get pissed that theres a fake berra posting on slap
donovan strain starts tweeting(i can't believe i just typed that) threats and how hes going to release pals personal info.
but of course no one really gives a rat ass and his bluff gets called.
thats when berra or whoever called up slap and out of nowhere, some admin shows up and deletes the celebrity centre acct.
so in true slap fashion, more fake accounts emerge, namely dudes who follow donovans tweets(again, i can't believe i had to type that)
then more berrics hate threads pop up, more craziness ensues so the threads are merged into one and here we are.
the bitchfest has died down some but none of what berra(and koston, he doesn't get a free pass) are trying to pull will ever be forgetton by anyone for a long while. theres no way shops around the country haven't gotten word on what the real deal and the real deal is simple, thye want your money but they were trying to be sneaky and unhanded about getting it. helping shops out by charging $600 for a simple listing is all sorts of wrong no matter how you slice it.
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All I have to say is wow.
and... AND... I mean AND ....if west 49 ends up on the site as a core fucking store I will never ever ever ever visit the berrics again... or buy alien or girl or anything they are involved with. EVER... West 49 put many many Canadian shops out of business, I am talking ones that were around over a decade, some 2 decades and some just a few years, but they were all skate shops that meant so much to the community, the skaters, the workers and the owners. If west 49 is core, so is winners and discount brand name stores at the mall.
Infact ....if west 49 ....holy shit I am mad. I cant type... just gonna wait.
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when i saw the new canteen all i could picture is all the slap pols opening up their laptops like when you get the ac 130 in call of duty ready to bomb the shit out of the messageboards.
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posting in an already-trash thread to win a fucking skateboard
whaaaat, you can do that?
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just got an email from steve.... west 49 is NOT going to be apart of the program!!!
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Now how many harassing phone calls did he make before he made that decision?
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just got an email from steve.... west 49 is NOT going to be apart of the program!!!
But they will still sell exclusive Berrics gear in West 49 stores???
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just got an email from steve.... west 49 is NOT going to be apart of the program!!!
sure they're not a part of the program, the advert never implied it.
i assume unified does'nt cover canadian cities; so, in essence, berric's is saying fuck canadian shops, lets give it to west 49.
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but come on guys, west 49 has a good team dont they?
(http://www.west49.com/data/teamMember_3017_1222708085625_image.jpg)
i mean, this young man's name is bigman! how can we honestly put down a shop with a 45 year old dude named 'bigman' managing the talent.
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^^^
big man puts in work.
http://www.west49.com/howToBeAPro.jsp <-------- gotta check the banner at the top.
the irony here is that i've never seen adidas, cons, or nike 'sb' in a west 49. but berrics is backin the shit hard.
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So the Berrics is advertising on West 49's new Canteen site... Next we'll have Underworld United. Then we'll have Wednesdays with Jersey Shore guy at H&M.
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So the Berrics is advertising on West 49's new Canteen site... Next we'll have Underworld United. Then we'll have Wednesdays with Jersey Shore guy at H&M.
I'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN
I'LL FOLLOW YOU UNTIL YOU LOVE ME
PAPPA
PAPPARAZZI
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BABY, THERE'S NO OTHER SUPERSTAR, YOU KNOW THAT I'LL BE
YOUR PAPA, PAPARAZZI
RAWBUM YOU'LL BE FAMOUS, YOU'LL BE HER ONE DAY THEY'LL SEE
JUST LOOK DOWN BELOW AND YOU'LL FIND A PEE PEE, YES A PEE PEE
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/04/0420_lady_gaga_pcn.jpg)
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the berrics is backing a lot of bullshit right now and its all bad.
the sad part is, while the older generation of skaters care, the younger ones don't.
i just had a kid come in here and tell me how all the kids from my neighborhood have been going down to rival to buy stuff.
from what i heard, rival is going out of business anyway and turning into the 2nd boundless location.
oh well. i'll keep doing what i'm doing and hope it all works out.
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checked up on the unified site today to see if anyone i knew was on there. one of my favorite shops (double wide in wilmington nc) on there posting something kind of ironic...
The difference between us and other online stores is that we're actually skateboarders that know the product we're selling, not to mention we've got two brick and mortar shops! So if you do your shopping online, don't buy from some kook in a warehouse who just drop ships from a distributor! Support your core skate shops, or what we like to say... "Click and Order from the Brick and Mortar!"
nice to see doublewide with exposure. ny and ohio are still on the "thanks but not thanks" program.
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checked up on the unified site today to see if anyone i knew was on there. one of my favorite shops (double wide in wilmington nc) on there posting something kind of ironic...
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The difference between us and other online stores is that we're actually skateboarders that know the product we're selling, not to mention we've got two brick and mortar shops! So if you do your shopping online, don't buy from some kook in a warehouse who just drop ships from a distributor! Support your core skate shops, or what we like to say... "Click and Order from the Brick and Mortar!"
nice to see doublewide with exposure. ny and ohio are still on the "thanks but not thanks" program.
you damn fuckin right!
if any shop in NYC signs up for that shit, not only would they be getting butt raped by the berrics but they'll get boycotted too. we don't have that many but the majority of shops within NYC are core shops and everyones attitude here is pretty much like, fuck off. not even just skaters, but everyone.
on the reals though, if an shop here signed up it would be the first time in my entire life i would be ashamed to claim new york.
hells fucking no. no. fucking. way.
totally from left field, this is the first time i've ever posted on slap all high and shit. drinkin yes, bakin no. i guess its cool.
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this whole situation is pitiful, really.
most skaters dont give a shit about any thing but skateboarding. as soon as they hear anything about politics or business, they run away. when they hear anything negative about something they like, most jump back like we're attacking them and don't bother looking into details/the actual situation.
this goes beyond skateboarding and happens in all aspects of life, but like it was said... its just sad seeing it happening before your eyes.
the closest thing i have to a mall shop is called "empire" (theres only 2) and theyr responsible for closing my friend's shop. now my friend manages the "empire" thats replaced his shop. its pretty sad.
people should go to skateparks and post signs against the berrics and any mall shops, for all the kids and their parents to see. some pictures and maybe a paragraph somewhere explaining why mall shops are destroying local skateboard scenes and what not.
also talking to the kids and parents about this shit is really important. when you see a kid or whatever with a mall'ed out setup, dont just frown upon him/her, that wont change anything... talk to them about it and try to enlighten them.
whats even sadder is all the skaters supporting these mall'ed out shops. with one or two exceptions, everyone on the berrics "team" is a well based, non struggling skateboarder. if anything those guys should be supporting some small shop from where they came from, or something of the sort. i have no idea if they are generally good people or not, but god fucking damn it are most of them stupid. even if they are doing it just kus berra is their friend, thats no excuse. the struggling guys have an excuse, but the majority of them dont.
fuck the berrics and everyone on their team. fuck em. i dont give a fuck im going to resent them until things change.
if nothing changes then god fucking damnit am i ever glad i stayed in school all these years.
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this whole situation is pitiful, really.
most skaters dont give a shit about any thing but skateboarding. as soon as they hear anything about politics or business, they run away. when they hear anything negative about something they like, most jump back like we're attacking them and don't bother looking into details/the actual situation.
this goes beyond skateboarding and happens in all aspects of life, but like it was said... its just sad seeing it happening before your eyes.
the closest thing i have to a mall shop is called "empire" (theres only 2) and theyr responsible for closing my friend's shop. now my friend manages the "empire" thats replaced his shop. its pretty sad.
people should go to skateparks and post signs against the berrics and any mall shops, for all the kids and their parents to see. some pictures and maybe a paragraph somewhere explaining why mall shops are destroying local skateboard scenes and what not.
also talking to the kids and parents about this shit is really important. when you see a kid or whatever with a mall'ed out setup, dont just frown upon him/her, that wont change anything... talk to them about it and try to enlighten them.
whats even sadder is all the skaters supporting these mall'ed out shops. with one or two exceptions, everyone on the berrics "team" is a well based, non struggling skateboarder. if anything those guys should be supporting some small shop from where they came from, or something of the sort. i have no idea if they are generally good people or not, but god fucking damn it are most of them stupid. even if they are doing it just kus berra is their friend, thats no excuse. the struggling guys have an excuse, but the majority of them dont.
fuck the berrics and everyone on their team. fuck em. i dont give a fuck im going to resent them until things change.
if nothing changes then god fucking damnit am i ever glad i stayed in school all these years.
WELL SAID!! Most parents would understand the concept of supporting local stores vs. big chains. Alot of them probably just don't realize that there is even an alternative to the mall shops. If the skateboarders in the know will take a few minutes from skating at the skatepark and have a quick chat with the parents who are bringing their young kids, I think we could really help things.
I've heard that a bunch of those dudes on the Berrics Canteen team were under the impression that Berra was paying them for it...just like Active or whoever else they would've rode for. Then AFTER Berra released the video with all of em in it...he told em he wasn't paying them anything. He basically took it as a favor from them for giving skateboarding the Berrics.
Apparently Reynolds is actually really really pissed.
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Apparently Reynolds is actually really really pissed.
Evidently Andrew doesn't realize that being ass-fucked by the Berrics is cheaper than taking out an ad in Pennysaver...
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Apparently Reynolds is actually really really pissed.
Evidently Andrew doesn't realize that being ass-fucked by the Berrics is cheaper than taking out an ad in Pennysaver...
lolololololololo!
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this whole situation is pitiful, really.
most skaters dont give a shit about any thing but skateboarding. as soon as they hear anything about politics or business, they run away. when they hear anything negative about something they like, most jump back like we're attacking them and don't bother looking into details/the actual situation.
this goes beyond skateboarding and happens in all aspects of life, but like it was said... its just sad seeing it happening before your eyes.
the closest thing i have to a mall shop is called "empire" (theres only 2) and theyr responsible for closing my friend's shop. now my friend manages the "empire" thats replaced his shop. its pretty sad.
people should go to skateparks and post signs against the berrics and any mall shops, for all the kids and their parents to see. some pictures and maybe a paragraph somewhere explaining why mall shops are destroying local skateboard scenes and what not.
also talking to the kids and parents about this shit is really important. when you see a kid or whatever with a mall'ed out setup, dont just frown upon him/her, that wont change anything... talk to them about it and try to enlighten them.
whats even sadder is all the skaters supporting these mall'ed out shops. with one or two exceptions, everyone on the berrics "team" is a well based, non struggling skateboarder. if anything those guys should be supporting some small shop from where they came from, or something of the sort. i have no idea if they are generally good people or not, but god fucking damn it are most of them stupid. even if they are doing it just kus berra is their friend, thats no excuse. the struggling guys have an excuse, but the majority of them dont.
fuck the berrics and everyone on their team. fuck em. i dont give a fuck im going to resent them until things change.
if nothing changes then god fucking damnit am i ever glad i stayed in school all these years.
WELL SAID!! Most parents would understand the concept of supporting local stores vs. big chains. Alot of them probably just don't realize that there is even an alternative to the mall shops. If the skateboarders in the know will take a few minutes from skating at the skatepark and have a quick chat with the parents who are bringing their young kids, I think we could really help things.
I've heard that a bunch of those dudes on the Berrics Canteen team were under the impression that Berra was paying them for it...just like Active or whoever else they would've rode for. Then AFTER Berra released the video with all of em in it...he told em he wasn't paying them anything. He basically took it as a favor from them for giving skateboarding the Berrics.
Apparently Reynolds is actually really really pissed.
Wow, what a douche.
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back it up boy.
too much bullshit imo.
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this whole situation is pitiful, really.
most skaters dont give a shit about any thing but skateboarding. as soon as they hear anything about politics or business, they run away. when they hear anything negative about something they like, most jump back like we're attacking them and don't bother looking into details/the actual situation.
this goes beyond skateboarding and happens in all aspects of life, but like it was said... its just sad seeing it happening before your eyes.
the closest thing i have to a mall shop is called "empire" (theres only 2) and theyr responsible for closing my friend's shop. now my friend manages the "empire" thats replaced his shop. its pretty sad.
people should go to skateparks and post signs against the berrics and any mall shops, for all the kids and their parents to see. some pictures and maybe a paragraph somewhere explaining why mall shops are destroying local skateboard scenes and what not.
also talking to the kids and parents about this shit is really important. when you see a kid or whatever with a mall'ed out setup, dont just frown upon him/her, that wont change anything... talk to them about it and try to enlighten them.
whats even sadder is all the skaters supporting these mall'ed out shops. with one or two exceptions, everyone on the berrics "team" is a well based, non struggling skateboarder. if anything those guys should be supporting some small shop from where they came from, or something of the sort. i have no idea if they are generally good people or not, but god fucking damn it are most of them stupid. even if they are doing it just kus berra is their friend, thats no excuse. the struggling guys have an excuse, but the majority of them dont.
fuck the berrics and everyone on their team. fuck em. i dont give a fuck im going to resent them until things change.
if nothing changes then god fucking damnit am i ever glad i stayed in school all these years.
Even worse, word has it that Berra and crew have been on the hunt for an east coast warehouse to set up "The Berrics East" location. Yup, just building his empire while everyone supports his schtick. And if you don't like it "fuck your face!"
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Where I live there isn't much choice for kids, it's either the mall shop, or 510 in Berkeley. Ordering on-line doesn't work for them, they like to see the shit before they buy it.
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Where I live there isn't much choice for kids, it's either the mall shop, or 510 in Berkeley. Ordering on-line doesn't work for them, they like to see the shit before they buy it.
As long as 510 gets all the love, then I don't have a problem with no shops in the Easy Bay. I remember that Destination 1550 trying to have a store and that was like a couple of blocks from the park and still no one went there. People would rather just support 510.
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the berrics sucks. lets make this into another thread about winning a cruiser board
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I sure want that cruiser board real bad. Don't you guys??
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Where I live there isn't much choice for kids, it's either the mall shop, or 510 in Berkeley. Ordering on-line doesn't work for them, they like to see the shit before they buy it.
As long as 510 gets all the love, then I don't have a problem with no shops in the Easy Bay. I remember that Destination 1550 trying to have a store and that was like a couple of blocks from the park and still no one went there. People would rather just support 510.
Where do you guys live?
There's also Metro once you get a little deeper. It sucks both shops in Oakland that have opened recently have closed, but there is plenty of choice for kids in the bay area. Worst comes to worst if you live out there and don't have a car you can take the BART to 24th street station, skate 3 blocks east on 24th, and go to mission shop. Or you can go across the bay bridge into the city and go to DLX, FTC, HUF, Cruise, mission, purple skunk, and probably even more.
There is no reason anybody in the bay should be ordering mail order.
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I'm guilty of buying through mail-orders and online. I never used to shop online until the one skateshop we had here closed up. It was the best, it was what got me into skating pretty much, and kept me skating. Then after a couple of years they closed up and I had to start buying online, Ebay mainly but I've been buying shit from skatewarehouse since they've got everything and ship to Aus. There are now two poor excuses for skateshops, one is like a girls fashion surf shop that happens to sell skateboards, the only thing I've ever bought from there is griptape. Another shop opened up just this year but they're almost as worse, no one that works there skates nor knows anything about skateboarding therefore they don't get any of my business. Plus they sell scooter parts, fuck that. They stock limited shit, Fallen shoes only, and a bunch of Baker, Deathwish stuff, which beats any of the dwindle crap they sell at the other store, though. I've bought a couple of dvds from there but that's it. I can't even buy griptape there because all they have is stupid cut-out designs and coloured crap.
I guess it balances out since I buy from companies/skaters I love to support through the mailorder. But as soon as I move to a place where a skateshop exits I'll pay a little more to support them.
I'd never buy from the berrics, though. Ever.
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I'm glad nobody gives a shit about The Berrics in my country. And i agree, someone should start a non-profit organization, that's against The Berrics Unified and The Canteen. Posting flyers and giving lectures to kids, that it's more important to support your local shops, not mall shops or The Canteen. I'm sure alot of skaters/shops would donate for this purpouse.
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I'm glad nobody gives a shit about The Berrics in my country. And i agree, someone should start a non-profit organization, that's against The Berrics Unified and The Canteen. Posting flyers and giving lectures to kids, that it's more important to support your local shops, not mall shops or The Canteen. I'm sure alot of skaters/shops would donate for this purpouse.
One dude gives lectures to kids, another dude gives them free clips of their favorite pros, who would you check out?
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this whole situation is pitiful, really.
most skaters dont give a shit about any thing but skateboarding. as soon as they hear anything about politics or business, they run away. when they hear anything negative about something they like, most jump back like we're attacking them and don't bother looking into details/the actual situation.
this goes beyond skateboarding and happens in all aspects of life, but like it was said... its just sad seeing it happening before your eyes.
the closest thing i have to a mall shop is called "empire" (theres only 2) and theyr responsible for closing my friend's shop. now my friend manages the "empire" thats replaced his shop. its pretty sad.
people should go to skateparks and post signs against the berrics and any mall shops, for all the kids and their parents to see. some pictures and maybe a paragraph somewhere explaining why mall shops are destroying local skateboard scenes and what not.
also talking to the kids and parents about this shit is really important. when you see a kid or whatever with a mall'ed out setup, dont just frown upon him/her, that wont change anything... talk to them about it and try to enlighten them.
whats even sadder is all the skaters supporting these mall'ed out shops. with one or two exceptions, everyone on the berrics "team" is a well based, non struggling skateboarder. if anything those guys should be supporting some small shop from where they came from, or something of the sort. i have no idea if they are generally good people or not, but god fucking damn it are most of them stupid. even if they are doing it just kus berra is their friend, thats no excuse. the struggling guys have an excuse, but the majority of them dont.
fuck the berrics and everyone on their team. fuck em. i dont give a fuck im going to resent them until things change.
if nothing changes then god fucking damnit am i ever glad i stayed in school all these years.
Even worse, word has it that Berra and crew have been on the hunt for an east coast warehouse to set up "The Berrics East" location. Yup, just building his empire while everyone supports his schtick. And if you don't like it "fuck your face!"
Someone told me to go fuck my face once. He's in jail now.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3917/fuckmyface.jpg)
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Berra, your cell phone grinds my gears.
Stop calling people repeatedly when you don't like their opinion.
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can you imagine hanging out with steve berra? how shitty that would be?
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The Berrics and Agenda Trade show team up - http://www.shop-eat-surf.com/news-item/1288/agenda-and-berrics-drop-trade-show
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how dare anyone disagree with The Berra.
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The Berrics is running a new ad. They've collabed with Erik Ellington and are going to sell shirts, pants, and hats EXCLUSIVELY to the Shops that signed up for Berrics unified.
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1539
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I'm glad nobody gives a shit about The Berrics in my country. And i agree, someone should start a non-profit organization, that's against The Berrics Unified and The Canteen. Posting flyers and giving lectures to kids, that it's more important to support your local shops, not mall shops or The Canteen. I'm sure alot of skaters/shops would donate for this purpouse.
I see your point, but i think kids look up to local skaters more than some internet page. Atleast that's how it should be. And giving mommys lectures would help also, since they're the one's with the credit cards. I agree that my plan isn't perfect, but atleast trying it out should give somesort of results. For example, here kids look up to older guys. And since older guys skate mostly DLX stuff, then the kids also skate DLX stuff. It's simple as that. Although yes, our culture is different from yours.
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how dare anyone disagree with The Berra.
I bet he'd be like those weird cousins in It's Always Sunny.
We'd get to the bar and he'd order a glass of milk.
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McPoyle Brothers. Who would be the Sister?
(http://www.cantedmagazine.com/columns/Villains/McPoyles.jpg)
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McPoyle Brothers. Who would be the Sister?
(http://www.cantedmagazine.com/columns/Villains/McPoyles.jpg)
i would fuck her
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McPoyle Brothers. Who would be the Sister?
(http://www.cantedmagazine.com/columns/Villains/McPoyles.jpg)
Left to right: Koston, Donovan, Berr-Berr.
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reda or agah?
(http://thumbnails.hulu.com/8/99/20754_512x288_manicured__WIXmRaJltUKFlER7I4wngQ.jpg)
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I know a guy who doesn'thave cable and just watches episodes of it's awlays sunny.
I offer him other HBO series dvds, curb, eastbound but he just isn't interested in any other media.
I think Berra and Koston are thinking too highly of themselves, like they beleive they are unfuckwithables.
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Where I live there isn't much choice for kids, it's either the mall shop, or 510 in Berkeley. Ordering on-line doesn't work for them, they like to see the shit before they buy it.
As long as 510 gets all the love, then I don't have a problem with no shops in the Easy Bay. I remember that Destination 1550 trying to have a store and that was like a couple of blocks from the park and still no one went there. People would rather just support 510.
There's also Metro once you get a little deeper. It sucks both shops in Oakland that have opened recently have closed, but there is plenty of choice for kids in the bay area. Worst comes to worst if you live out there and don't have a car you can take the BART to 24th street station, skate 3 blocks east on 24th, and go to mission shop. Or you can go across the bay bridge into the city and go to DLX, FTC, HUF, Cruise, mission, purple skunk, and probably even more.
There is no reason anybody in the bay should be ordering mail order.
I am speaking on like little kids and shit that live in just the east bay (well, Richmond area) and rely on their moms to get them stuff. Parents are lazy and even kids for that matter. I doubt they would want to go to SF area just to get a deck or even go inland to get a deck as well. When I would go to Berkley park, most of those guys would have 510 decks.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO ORDER A GLASS OF MILK AND GO FUCK YOUR FACE!"
*looks at berrics workers*
....awkward laugh and fake thumbs up
"HAHA PUT THAT VIDEO ON THE WEBSITE!!! MY TWITTER IS FULL OF FUCK YOUR FACE!!!"
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I know a guy who doesn'thave cable and just watches episodes of it's awlays sunny.
I offer him other HBO series dvds, curb, eastbound but he just isn't interested in any other media.
I think Berra and Koston are thinking too highly of themselves, like they beleive they are unfuckwithables.
i thought koston was unfuckwithable but he done switched up on me, and i aint like that
sold my first brick nigga i came right back
fast forward the tape nigga look at me now
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so what do you all think of this from berra's twitter:
"Berrics/Agenda flying out every shop in the Unified for the Agenda trade show then we r going to have a party to eat in-n-out at the berrics"
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1. I thought they didn't have money.
2. Is there a price for a free flight again?
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1. I thought they didn't have money.
2. Is there a price for a free flight again?
1. they got lots of bandwidth. that indicates money. oh, and they just remodeled the whole place. that, also, seems to indicate money.
2. maybe they've just got lots of frequent flier miles? or maybe berra is about to trick them into paying for their tickets.
haha. I don't know, I almost laughed aloud at that particular tweet because it just seems so far away from the shit berra talks.
spend the money on something else other than the little in-and-out party (waiting for the gay jokes to come in 1...2...3...)
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2. maybe they've just got lots of frequent flier miles? or maybe berra is about to trick them into paying for their tickets.
This made me laugh.
Oh, and I don't disagree with talking to kids about not fucking with the berrics, but I think the most successful way to do that is to just kind of casually put them down as something that ain't cool whenever they are mentioned without saying why. For many kids, this will do it, eventually, somebody will ask, then you can sit them down and have a nice talk about what bums you out, and let them come to their own conclusion.
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so what do you all think of this from berra's twitter:
"Berrics/Agenda flying out every shop in the Unified for the Agenda trade show then we r going to have a party to eat in-n-out at the berrics"
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whats the point of flying someone from a small local shop to california? a berrics trade show pizza party isnt going to help boost sales in new jersey. these shops need to have a pizza party in their own back yard. shops might be getting a bit out of the advertisement, though probably not much, advertisement (especially on the internet) is dead (amazon quit advertising years ago, not because they were well established, but because they were wasting their money) http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/11/the-unclicking-84.html. even if its "GEOGRAPHICALLY TARGETED" (god fucking damn it berra pissed me off when he made such an emphasis on this).
plus hes stealing business through his canteen from all the shops that are paying him, oops i mean, that he's "supporting" through their advertisement.
fuck the berrics. and fuck berra
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I forgot in which of seth godin's book i read this, but he spent like $400 for 200 million banners on the net and websites (yes this may sound ridiculous, but have you ever bought advertisement space on the net? probably not), and in the end his sales revenue came out to something like 300, making him lose about 100$. and BTW seth godin is a marketing guru (look him up if you dont know of him) so i think he had an idea of how to target his ads.
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I don't know man, it's pretty hard to talk kids out of something when there's that many long-time well-respected pros with content on their site
Not to mention that most kids just want to see some skating, not get indoctrinated
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I don't think there's much chance that people will stop visiting the berrics site as long as so many pros have so much killer footage there.
What would really be cool is if all the pros themselves would stop participating in Berra's bullshit.
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After so many guys (pj, remondetta etc) have beasted and shut that shit down so many times I dont even care what happens there anymore.
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i didn't really care much for the berrics to begin with, i've been on there maybe 10 times total since they've been around.
its only a matter of time before some other dudes set up something similar minus the shysters.
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i didn't really care much for the berrics to begin with, i've been on there maybe 10 times total since they've been around.
its only a matter of time before some other dudes set up something similar minus the shysters.
I don't know man, they've pretty much had every legitimate & well-known skater there.
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i didn't really care much for the berrics to begin with, i've been on there maybe 10 times total since they've been around.
its only a matter of time before some other dudes set up something similar minus the shysters.
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i didn't really care much for the berrics to begin with, i've been on there maybe 10 times total since they've been around.
its only a matter of time before some other dudes set up something similar minus the shysters.
i didn't give a shit then and i don't really give a shit now.
and saying "every legitimate & well known skater" is stretching it, so lets not even go there.
watching pros skate is great when its filled with good tricks at interesting spots, but the berrics is more or less a bunch of pros doing the same tricks at the same spots. i'm sure they try their ebst to mix it up but a lot of skaters have the same tricks and they're all pretty much hitting the same spots. but really my opinion means nothing since their target audience is 20 years younger than me.
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I thought the whole "skating the same place" thing leveled the playing field a bit and allows you to judge the style of the skateboarder on its own merit rather than letting spot choice influence it
I feel like the Berrics is just sort of a neutral place to see how different people make different tricks look
But it will always be hated because it's very successful and skateboarders are a super jealous and judgmental bunch (and that's why I love you)
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i didn't really care much for the berrics to begin with, i've been on there maybe 10 times total since they've been around.
its only a matter of time before some other dudes set up something similar minus the shysters.
48blocks.com gets my support. That site delivers the goods, without all of the unnecessary babble
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I thought the whole "skating the same place" thing leveled the playing field a bit and allows you to judge the style of the skateboarder on its own merit rather than letting spot choice influence it
I feel like the Berrics is just sort of a neutral place to see how different people make different tricks look
But it will always be hated because it's very successful and skateboarders are a super jealous and judgmental bunch (and that's why I love you)
"leveled the playing field," what, you an aspiring olympic skate judge?
the spot is what street skating is all about, not the tricks. don't let anyone tell you different.
always be hated? mad people love the berrics, i just don't.
i don't care if they're successful or not as long as they're not douching over the little guys to do it.
jealous of what? the money? i don't care for wealth or fame or material possessions, i'm past that phase in my life.
all humans are judgemental, not just skaters.
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I think it allows you to look more closely at the nuances of certain skaters' styles (the quote "it's not a trick tip but that doesn't mean you won't learn something" comes to mind). To me, it's just a revival of the early 90s scenes (particularly EMB). Is it cheesy that so many people skated EMB? Or any of the other spot-centric scenes?
I always thought street skating was about, you know, skateboarding. Don't bullshit me with this "but don't let anyone tell you different" when you're fucking trying to tell me different.
I wasn't calling you jealous, for the record.
But yon't care for wealth or fame or material possessions? What the fuck, are you a monk or senile? That is some lame shit to pull: "oh, yeah, you guys can do that, but I've exempted myself." Copped out.
re-reading this post, I'm awful and deserve to get reamed for this post. If I don't, you will have let me down dear Slap
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I think it allows you to look more closely at the nuances of certain skaters' styles (the quote "it's not a trick tip but that doesn't mean you won't learn something" comes to mind). To me, it's just a revival of the early 90s scenes (particularly EMB). Is it cheesy that so many people skated EMB? Or any of the other spot-centric scenes?
I always thought street skating was about, you know, skateboarding. Don't bullshit me with this "but don't let anyone tell you different" when you're fucking trying to tell me different.
I wasn't calling you jealous, for the record.
But yon't care for wealth or fame or material possessions? What the fuck, are you a monk or senile? That is some lame shit to pull: "oh, yeah, you guys can do that, but I've exempted myself." Copped out.
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Where I live there isn't much choice for kids, it's either the mall shop, or 510 in Berkeley. Ordering on-line doesn't work for them, they like to see the shit before they buy it.
As long as 510 gets all the love, then I don't have a problem with no shops in the Easy Bay. I remember that Destination 1550 trying to have a store and that was like a couple of blocks from the park and still no one went there. People would rather just support 510.
There's also Metro once you get a little deeper. It sucks both shops in Oakland that have opened recently have closed, but there is plenty of choice for kids in the bay area. Worst comes to worst if you live out there and don't have a car you can take the BART to 24th street station, skate 3 blocks east on 24th, and go to mission shop. Or you can go across the bay bridge into the city and go to DLX, FTC, HUF, Cruise, mission, purple skunk, and probably even more.
There is no reason anybody in the bay should be ordering mail order.
it's funny because the concord mall literally a block away has a zumiez in it and has for a long while, but metro is still (seemingly) doing good. i think the reason is because they're always doing shit, video premieres, have a good team and filming a video, and holding demos. having a miniramp in the shop doesn't hurt. they just held an osiris demo there two weeks ago, and they had a diy quarter pipe in the back made for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_XWoMYC5xE
now, they're hosting a product giveaway contest over myspace. i'd consider them to be a pretty good example of how a shop can survive in not only tough economic times in general but also with mall shops trying to push them out.
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http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1533
this guy wants you to buy t-shirts from steve.
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i remember when the berrics was cool
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I think it allows you to look more closely at the nuances of certain skaters' styles (the quote "it's not a trick tip but that doesn't mean you won't learn something" comes to mind). To me, it's just a revival of the early 90s scenes (particularly EMB). Is it cheesy that so many people skated EMB? Or any of the other spot-centric scenes?
I always thought street skating was about, you know, skateboarding. Don't bullshit me with this "but don't let anyone tell you different" when you're fucking trying to tell me different.
I wasn't calling you jealous, for the record.
But yon't care for wealth or fame or material possessions? What the fuck, are you a monk or senile? That is some lame shit to pull: "oh, yeah, you guys can do that, but I've exempted myself." Copped out.
re-reading this post, I'm awful and deserve to get reamed for this post. If I don't, you will have let me down dear Slap
i'm sure you have friends who say, "we're going street skating today"....do they go to a skate park to do it? no they don't. they hit the streets and look for interesting/different things to skate. street skating takes place in the streets, thats why its called street skating.
i'm over chasing money, how exactly is that a cop out? i've been there and done that and it didn't make me feel any better. now i make an 1/8th of what i used to make but i'm the happiest i've ever been. that isn't exactly a cop out, thats how i choose to live. not that it should matter to you anyway, i'm 3000 miles away, why you do even care about my life choices?
and for the record, i'm actually a senile monk whos telling you different.
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and for the record, i'm actually a senile monk whos telling you different.
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and for the record, i'm actually a senile monk whos telling you different.
calling another dude adorable is mad homo....not that theres anything wrong with that.
plus, i might be a little kid so you might want to ease up before chris hansen puts you in the chair.
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NO HOMO but...
ps NO HOMO but if you haven't watched today's video on steve berra's webblight, you should check it out because it is some serious "NO HOMO, BUT DAMN I LOVE DUDES" shit.
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I think it allows you to look more closely at the nuances of certain skaters' styles (the quote "it's not a trick tip but that doesn't mean you won't learn something" comes to mind). To me, it's just a revival of the early 90s scenes (particularly EMB). Is it cheesy that so many people skated EMB? Or any of the other spot-centric scenes?
I always thought street skating was about, you know, skateboarding. Don't bullshit me with this "but don't let anyone tell you different" when you're fucking trying to tell me different.
I wasn't calling you jealous, for the record.
But yon't care for wealth or fame or material possessions? What the fuck, are you a monk or senile? That is some lame shit to pull: "oh, yeah, you guys can do that, but I've exempted myself." Copped out.
re-reading this post, I'm awful and deserve to get reamed for this post. If I don't, you will have let me down dear Slap
I've never in my life heard someone say "we're going street skating today"...Maybe that's what people say who skate park more than they do street? I don't know. We just said "let's go skate".
Also, I don't know if this Canteen shit is going to work out. I know I probably won't ever buy something from there. Not because of skateboarding politics but because it just doesn't appeal to me. I can't believe those Berrics shirts are $25.
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4th day of master cleanse... just sayin
9:59 AM Dec 3rd from Echofon
THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS TOXINS
YOU FEEL TEMPORARILY BETTER BECAUSE YOU AREN'T PUTTING CRAP IN YOUR BODY
TOXINS DON'T EXIST. NOT SCIENTIST BELIEVES IN IT.
IT'S LIKE HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINE. IT'S ALL VOO DOO.
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Scientists? You mean Nazis?
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Koston and Berra twitters are going to amuse me for the next month.
I'll keep you alll posted with their important lives.
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AWESOM BERRICS UPDATE!!! THE GUYS GOOF OFF ON A HYDALIC LIFT!!!
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
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AWESOM BERRICS UPDATE!!! THE GUYS GOOF OFF ON A HYDALIC LIFT!!!
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
Lord.
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i'm over chasing money, how exactly is that a cop out? i've been there and done that and it didn't make me feel any better. now i make an 1/8th of what i used to make but i'm the happiest i've ever been. that isn't exactly a cop out, thats how i choose to live. not that it should matter to you anyway, i'm 3000 miles away, why you do even care about my life choices?
In all honesty, I think people who spend their lives obsessing over trying to get more money are pathetic. What you gonna do with all that money you work 60 hour weeks for? Buy a nice bed?
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What you gonna do with all that money you work 60 hour weeks for? Buy a nice bed?
What's wrong with a nice bed? You spend something like 1/3 of your life in bed.
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What you gonna do with all that money you work 60 hour weeks for? Buy a nice bed?
What's wrong with a nice bed? You spend something like 1/3 of your life in bed.
My point is that all you have time to do is sleep when you chase money too hard.
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What you gonna do with all that money you work 60 hour weeks for? Buy a nice bed?
What's wrong with a nice bed? You spend something like 1/3 of your life in bed.
thats pretty much it. i made a lot of money back in the day but all i ever did was work work work. i'd start my day at 8 and and get home at 8. i'd come home, take a shower, eat, maybe have a beer, watch some TV, pass out, only to do it all over again. somehow thats not living.
i'm not knocking the people who want/have to do it. some people have more responsibilities than others(wife, kid, mortgage, etc) but i don't have any of that so why shouldn't i enjoy myself. i get to skate more often and i have all the free time in the world to do anything and everything else i enjoy and that to me is living.
everyone and their moms has been selling me the american dream since the day i was born and it took me a while to figure out that i don't want what they're selling. they can keep what they're selling, i want to live my dream on my terms.
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Exactly. And I'm not saying you don't need money, you do. Everybody has to get a job, and there are a variety of jobs to get, some are all about getting as much money as possible, and others, money is just a small part of it. Some people do need to work to support a family and all of that, but that to me isn't money chasing. To me, money chasing is when that is your number 1 goal in life. Some people spend all of their time, even time off of work, trying to figure out ways to have more money , and it just seems to be missing the point to me. You should earn money to live, not live to earn money.
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I groom dogs for money, how's that?
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http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
Lord.
Oh my fucking god!
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http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
Lord.
Oh my fucking god!
Fucking hell Berra! Seriously?!
Reminded me of those fuckin dudes that show up at the skatepark and try to launch their remote control cars off all the ramps. Everyone just wants them to get the fuck outta the way so they can skate. You know the type...
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/daniel_levita/Nerds.jpg)
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jesus christ people wear kr3w? krew crew
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I groom dogs for money, how's that?
good for you son!
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the berrics will be the starbucks of skateboarding. shit can only grow so fast before the support isn't there.
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Just sorted thru a 27-tweet rant from (undisclosed loser) defending himself against "the haters". I want to puke now.
about 7 hours ago from TweetGenius
Eric, this thread goes on for 4 more pages.
I might be putting my twitter in storage for a while
about 7 hours ago from TweetGenius
Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T TELL STARBUCKS TO FUCK UR FACE AND HAVE ALL YOUR WORKERS AWKWARDLY LAUGH!!!!!!!
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the berrics will be the starbucks of skateboarding. shit can only grow so fast before the support isn't there.
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troooof
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had a dream last night that berra rolled through the shop when i was working to do our "unified" video and i made a joke about the canteen and he flipped out, called me a "slap pussy" and kicked the shop out of the program. gave me a little chuckle when i woke up.
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AWESOM BERRICS UPDATE!!! THE GUYS GOOF OFF ON A HYDALIC LIFT!!!
http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
No one can defend Billy Marks anymore. That dude is such a fucking fag. Also I like how stoked his friend is to be in front of a camera.
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http://www.theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1540
why the fuck must they use that song for the krew ad. fucking berra is gonna make me hate Into The Wild now too
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Who Noticed Borra publicly hating on Slap on the emails of the week...
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1543
some kid emailed him saying the hamburglar pushes mongo and stole the Mystery United Nations then Berra said "I always knew it was that hater Hamburgler, I heard he posts on Slap"
I don't see what that kook is trying to do, personally i think that the hamburglar is a legend, Borra wouldn't like him i suppose stealing hamburgers isn't free market enough for him and he cant make any money off of it.
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Even steve knows all you guys suck at skateboarding.
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there should be a slap pal united nations. that'd show him who wears the pants around here
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Even steve knows all you guys suck at skateboarding.
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there should be a slap pal united nations. that'd show him who wears the pants around here
i guess all the photoshop dick pictures didnt do it
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Even steve knows all you guys suck at skateboarding.
since you're a slap pal, wouldn't "you guys" include yourself?
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I'm a separate entity from slap.
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I'm a separate entity from slap.
Nah, you're more like Slap's mascot.
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I'm a separate entity from slap.
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this post is for satan
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I'm a separate entity from slap.
does that mean he is the hamburler!?!?!!
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Steve Berra have the right to say what the fuck he wants about SLAP.
he can even piss and shit on it...It's that way that people connect the most.
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English please.
That first sentence reads like Steve Berra is plural.
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There should be more camo flannel instead of plaid.
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http://www.youjizz.com/videos/fat-girl---bbw-carmyell-163213.html (http://www.youjizz.com/videos/fat-girl---bbw-carmyell-163213.html)
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No way am I clicking on any link that contains both 'jizz' and 'fat girl'.
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Tiger is a mack daddy
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I'm a separate entity from slap.
yes.
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Everyone on Slap is a "hamburling hater"
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I cried a single tear for Donovan Strain and skateboarding on 12/7/2009 because of his "Buttery Ass Mondays" internet video skateboarding comedy act.
It got too real.
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http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/12/berra-vs-borra.html
that berra and t-puds thing is dirty as fuck, anyone heard about that shit before? damn.
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hahaha. Once again Watson nails it.
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but seriously did anyone actually think saying borrics was funny
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Straight up, "Buttery Ass Donovan" has less relevancy to skateboarding than posting on Slap does.
At least industry heads actually care about Slap.
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hahaha. Once again Watson Wilson nails it.
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http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/12/berra-vs-borra.html
that berra and t-puds thing is dirty as fuck, anyone heard about that shit before? damn.
I haven't, but if true, that is pretty fucked. I can't imagine Torey doing shit for the berrics after that though, and he has appeared in batb2.
But yeah, if Berra thinks Pudwill shouldn't be on the same team as him because he smokes too much weed, Berra needs to go watch one of his parts, and realize that maybe he just doesn't smoke enough weed
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http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/12/berra-vs-borra.html
that berra and t-puds thing is dirty as fuck, anyone heard about that shit before? damn.
That's bogus and grimey as fuck for preventing Torey from joining Alien and then trying to get him kicked off DVS.
If I was Torey, I'd feel awkward as fuck Skating that park. This is the dude that was trying to hold him back in the industry.
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that berra and t-puds thing is dirty as fuck, anyone heard about that shit before? damn.
That's bogus and grimey as fuck for preventing Torey from joining Alien and then trying to get him kicked off DVS.
If I was Torey, I'd feel awkward as fuck Skating that park. This is the dude that was trying to hold him back in the industry.
I dont think torey gives a shit about what Berra thinks or says. dude kills it regardless of how much weed he smokes...
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how does t-pud smoking too much weed or anyone that smokes too much weed effect berras life in some negative way?
what a douchebag.
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Why is a grown ass man that worried about what other people do in their spare time in the first place? Smoking obviously isn't effecting Torey at all, and unlike Coke or Meth, it isn't like Weed is super destructive to your health or anything.
If he gets on Torey for harmless weed smoking, I wonder what he thinks about Baker/Deathwish
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Watson, where did you hear about Steve kicking Slap pals out of the Berrics and trying to kick off Torey Pudwill and Berrics riders not getting paid and all that?
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how does t-pud smoking too much weed or anyone that smokes too much weed effect berras life in some negative way?
what a douchebag.
You know, that gives me some comfort in smoking weed. Now everytime I smoke a bowl I can think, somehow, this is harming Steve Berra.
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how does t-pud smoking too much weed or anyone that smokes too much weed effect berras life in some negative way?
what a douchebag.
hahaha, this one's for steve!
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but seriously did anyone actually think saying Wilson was funny
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http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/12/berra-vs-borra.html
that berra and t-puds thing is dirty as fuck, anyone heard about that shit before? damn.
But yeah, if Berra thinks Pudwill shouldn't be on the same team as him because he smokes too much weed, Berra needs to go watch one of his parts, and realize that maybe he just doesn't smoke enough weed
I can confirm that shit is true. I have a mutual friend of Torey's and heard about Steve trying to get him kicked off DVS a while back. Torey still seriously hates Steve, but for that kind of cash I can't blame him for being in BATB2. Gotta get that money, weed ain't free.
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torey is awesome and makes me think i should start smoking weed. talk about getting lifted. that kid has some serious fucking pop. if shortys made another video with him, every trick wouldve had that "this shits got pop" thing flickering every second.
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but seriously did anyone actually think saying Wilson was funny
I think it's super funny.
Bobby - Various sources. Don't want to say who or else I would have in the post. But just lots of industry type people who are really fed up with Berra and have told me all kind of lame shit about him. People are bummed on him for sure.
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but seriously did anyone actually think saying Wilson was funny
I think it's super funny.
Bobby - Various sources. Don't want to say who or else I would have in the post. But just lots of industry type people who are really fed up with Berra and have told me all kind of lame shit about him. People are bummed on him for sure.
They probably post on the slap boards.
Haters.
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but seriously did anyone actually think saying Wilson was funny
I think it's super funny.
Bobby - Various sources. Don't want to say who or else I would have in the post. But just lots of industry type people who are really fed up with Berra and have told me all kind of lame shit about him. People are bummed on him for sure.
Haters.
Hamburgling haters, get it right bro, didnt the DVS skate and create have weed in it? wtf berra
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berra soon to join airspeed?
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
aliens exist shop?
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steve berra is the bono of skateboarding.
ELLO! ELLO!
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
He will call it Berrics board co to hide his secret plan.
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
He will call it Berrics board co to hide his secret plan.
Wouldn't that imply Eric going along with it? It'll just be Ber___s boards.
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
aliens exist shop?
I've never actually thought about it, but alien workshop is kind of a perfect name for a scientologist board company. I mean, isn't the whole idea of scientology to go to some place where they remove the aliens from your brain or some stupid shit like that?
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I am thinking next that there will be a Berrics skate team. Not like the Canteen thing....but actually a board company called the Berrics.
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I am thinking next that there will be a Berrics skate team. Not like the Canteen thing....but actually a board company called the Berrics.
A board company would be better. Because right now Berra's canteen sells pretty much every major brand out there. They're not taking business from skate companies, they're taking business from local shops. Just selling their own exclusive product as their own brand would be way less offensive in the overall picture...but likely make Berra a lot less money. So he'll just stick to the current plan, cash in as much as he can while the Berrics is still hot, then peace out to a nice retirement on his own after it's all over. Of course leaving the small local shop community (which has supported skateboarding through the good times and the bad) in ruin. He's pretty much just opening the floodgates for mall shops to officially take over the industry. Thank You Steve Berra.
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I bet that he quits/gets kicked off of AWS and starts a scientology board company.
aliens exist shop?
I think its not coincidence he is on there, i bet the Alien overlords planned it out ahead of time
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Of course leaving the small local shop community (which has supported skateboarding through the good times and the bad) in ruin. He's pretty much just opening the floodgates for mall shops to officially take over the industry. Thank You Steve Berra.
yes, the berrics and the berrics only are responsible for all local shops going out of business. yes, the berrics are pretty gay now, but what's equally as gay is all you faggots crying about berra and blaming him for everything
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Of course leaving the small local shop community (which has supported skateboarding through the good times and the bad) in ruin. He's pretty much just opening the floodgates for mall shops to officially take over the industry. Thank You Steve Berra.
yes, the berrics and the berrics only are responsible for all local shops going out of business. yes, the berrics are pretty gay now, but what's equally as gay is all you faggots crying about berra and blaming him for everything
There is no way Berra is solely responsible and I never said that. This mall shop take over has been a long time coming. But he's definitely not helping. Which is whatever...that's his choice. My only real problem was him pretending to help when he's really trying to cash in.
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What does it mean when a mall shop gets bought by a mall shop?
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I didn't want to start another Berra topic, but I had to. The hate is totally disproportionate to his misdeeds.
OK so the Unified announcement vid was shady. Fine. But he came correct and clarified things. And about covering expenses he does have a point—look at how many dudes he's got on salary. Donovan, Reda, Salman, bunch of video and web dudes, and surely others. That's a lot of dough. Do you know what it takes to eke out even a modest living in LA? About five grand a month, at least. I doubt Buttery D is seeing that from Steve, but I doubt Salman or Reda would work for anything less.
Attacks on his character. Who knows what kind of behind-the-scenes shit is happening. Wenning said he didn't want Selego on Habitat, and you guys were cool with that, but because it's Berra trying to keep Torey off Alien everyone goes berzerk. Double standard or what. And OK so he was into Scientology for a minute—maybe still is. Scientology was obviously a tool to help him get connected in LA when he was trying to segue into acting & filmmaking, two fields in which he found at least modest success. Twelve years later, he's 100% immersed in skateboarding, using his filmmaking and acting skills to create the #1 most visited skateboarding-related website. And out come the haters—because when your self-esteem is low, you have to despise that kind of success to validate yourself.
Bitching that he hasn't put out a part in however long. Has Cab? Or Gonz? The latter has been milking his "legend" status for years—his last legit part was Real to Reel, eight years ago, and now he gets paid thick to sell janky art and act like a schizophrenic clown on camera, yet somehow no one is permitted to hate on him because he did the Gonzollie in '86. The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined. Berra did a better job transitioning from old school to new school—when you look at his flip tricks you'd never know he was 36, not 26.
I don't know why he doesn't get more footage at his own skatepark, but if he did you guys would be hating him for that too—saying he's a showboat or whatever. I don't see much Koston footy coming out of The Berrics lately either. Maybe they want it to be about other people—giving up-and-comers a chance too. Some you will like (Cory Kennedy) some you won't (Yosiah) but either way what they're doing is just running a damn website filled with footage from their private skatepark and it's not their fault it became so popular that it's "killing street skating" or whatever.
He's been in the game a long, long-ass time and doesn't deserve this level of hate. The sad thing is I know he does lurk here and I know that some of what he's read has upset him, or he wouldn't be Tweeting and emailing about it. Even sadder is that I guarantee that even the gnarliest haters here would say none of this shit to his face.
Age 19: aired-out heelflip Indys and fakie 540°s on vert and fakie ollie Carlsbad Jr.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMDezrjq40
Switch inwards and every other flip trick you can think of, age 21:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xagq8c_steve-berra-in-foundation-tentacles_sport
25 years old: first kickflip 5050 on a round rail that I ever saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkcKET-jRAE
35 years old and more versatile, more polished than ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kPfrCZmP_8
Conclusion: I don't think a penchant for melodrama and a disingenuous marketing scheme sufficient to nullify his manifold positive contributions to the past, present, and future of skateboarding culture. And I'm confident that the silent majority of Pals share my opinion.
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dental plan
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kookin' it broseph
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Lisa needs braces
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Go hate on something else, f***kholes
you can say fuck here
you fuckholes
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I was willing to listen, but then you said this:
The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined.
And my eyes rolled so far back into my head that reading became difficult.
Anyway, yeah, no one thing Berra has done is insanely awful or anything. It's just the accumulation of a bunch of suspect moves, combined with one of the most grating, egotistical personalities in skateboarding. I think the United fiasco was just sort of the final tipping point from mild annoyance into hate.
I'm sure there are bigger douchebags in skating, but they don't broadcast videos of their douchery weekly from a website. Berra, on the other hand, pretty much just paints a target on his ass.
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I think I agree about 80% with what you said D
except the part with the Video CV
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The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined.
I respect that. And I realize that was a bold statement. But besides Video Days, what other Gonz parts stand out? Kicked out of Everywhere was the last decent thing he produced. I liked him best with short hair and wearing hoodies, doing that wallie and pole jam shit—it suited his style the best. But it's like he gave up after that, and even in Real to Reel he was clowning himself. Gonz is a great "character" but his skateboarding has looked dated for over a decade.
I like Cab and I was pleased to see him reinvent himself in the late 90s as the master of long, low, gently declining rails, but not since I've been skating has he had an outstanding video part. I mean Hot Batch in '92 featured slow mos of him backside nosesliding an EMB ledge and pressure flipping over a Ft. Miley hip.
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I always say you have to judge people by what they did in the context of the time they were in.
Gonz and Cab both changed skateboarding with what they did, video-wise. In the context of his own time, Berra is not and never has been revolutionary. He's had some gnarly footage, no argument there. But he wasn't a game-changer.
If you were around in 1987 and saw that clip of Gonz kickflipping the ditch gap in Texas, or the 180 ollie to fakie 5050 down the rail in Savannah, or the boardslide UP the rail in Savannah, or the ollie over the bench onto the rail at Oceanside in 1986, or the ollie to smith on a picnic table in the 1985 Thrasher video, that shit changed the way you thought of skating. Because absolutely NO ONE was doing that stuff then. And all that was way before Video Days even.
And do I even have to get going on Cab? The guy influenced more people than Steve Berra has pissed off. And that's saying something.
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commercialbuttery D
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My friend Josh met him at a DVS demo not too long I think. Steve asked him if he checks The Berrics often. Josh said not really Steve giggled and said "Well maybe someday you'll understand what good skating is. And indoor heating. You needz to get with the timez!" And looked for the fourteen year old's to follow him in laughter.
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Berra changed the game but in more subtle ways. He was one of the first to flip into rail tricks and he perfected a well-rounded, clean style that combined tech and gnar.
Not to take anything away from Gonz's achievements. He and Natas birthed street skateboarding in the '80s, but in the '90s Berra helped to refine it.
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I was willing to listen, but then you said this:
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The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined.
I respect that. And I realize that was a bold statement. But besides Video Days, what other Gonz parts stand out? Kicked out of Everywhere was the last decent thing he produced. I liked him best with short hair and wearing hoodies, doing that wallie and pole jam shit—it suited his style the best. But it's like he gave up after that, and even in Real to Reel he was clowning himself. Gonz is a great "character" but his skateboarding has looked dated for over a decade.
I like Cab and I was pleased to see him reinvent himself in the late 90s as the master of long, low, gently declining rails, but not since I've been skating has he had an outstanding video part. I mean Hot Batch in '92 featured slow mos of him backside nosesliding an EMB ledge and pressure flipping over a Ft. Miley hip.
You gotta keep in mind though that both Cab and Gonz were waaay ahead of their times.
Pretty sure Berra can beat em in a gmae of SKATE but that doesn't matter concernning the impact of their old parts.
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I wasn't skating in the '80s but from what I understand Natas had quite a few NBDs back then too.
Yes, indeed. I'm glad Gonz gets the props he does, but it's kind of a crime that so few kids know how important Natas was. Video-wise, he was even more important than Gonz in the 80s, since Gonz never had a real, full-length video part back then, and Natas had two that were both hugely influential and innovative.
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You gotta keep in mind though that both Cab and Gonz were waaay ahead of their times.
Yes that's true. But Berra's been putting out parts since Splendid Eye Torture—20 years ago!—and his 2009 shit looks like 2009 shit. The last time Gonz released a part with up-to-date skating was in 1998. That's a respectable 12-year run as a serious pro, but Berra's going on 18 years and looking fresher than ever. That's an achievement in and of itself and shouldn't be dismissed or discounted.
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but Berra's going on 18 years and looking fresher than ever.
I think you'll have a hard time selling that one.
I mean, Gonz's Krooked Kronicles part was kind of a goof, but it's still more fun to watch than Berra skating those stupid yellow flatbars in Mindfield.
His The End part that was NOT. "Up to date skating" that was definitely NOT.
Anyway, I don't think anyone has seriously dissed Berra as a skater - it's his character and personality that are so dismal. Everyone knows he's good on a board. But he's nowhere near Gonz and Cab in terms of legend OR longevity, and exaggerating his skills and importance seriously compromises any legitimate defense of him you might hope to make.
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I didn't want to start another Berra topic, but I had to. The hate is totally disproportionate to his misdeeds.
OK so the Unified announcement vid was shady. Fine. But he came correct and clarified things. And about covering expenses he does have a point—look at how many dudes he's got on salary. Donovan, Reda, Salman, bunch of video and web dudes, and surely others. That's a lot of dough. Do you know what it takes to eke out even a modest living in LA? About five grand a month, at least. I doubt Buttery D is seeing that from Steve, but I doubt Salman or Reda would work for anything less.
Attacks on his character. Who knows what kind of behind-the-scenes shit is happening. Wenning said he didn't want Selego on Habitat, and you guys were cool with that, but because it's Berra trying to keep Torey off Alien everyone goes berzerk. Double standard or what. And OK so he was into Scientology for a minute—maybe still is. Scientology was obviously a tool to help him get connected in LA when he was trying to segue into acting & filmmaking, two fields in which he found at least modest success. Twelve years later, he's 100% immersed in skateboarding, using his filmmaking and acting skills to create the #1 most visited skateboarding-related website. And out come the haters—because when your self-esteem is low, you have to despise that kind of success to validate yourself.
Bitching that he hasn't put out a part in however long. Has Cab? Or Gonz? The latter has been milking his "legend" status for years—his last legit part was Real to Reel, eight years ago, and now he gets paid thick to sell janky art and act like a schizophrenic clown on camera, yet somehow no one is permitted to hate on him because he did the Gonzollie in '86. The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined. Berra did a better job transitioning from old school to new school—when you look at his flip tricks you'd never know he was 36, not 26.
I don't know why he doesn't get more footage at his own skatepark, but if he did you guys would be hating him for that too—saying he's a showboat or whatever. I don't see much Koston footy coming out of The Berrics lately either. Maybe they want it to be about other people—giving up-and-comers a chance too. Some you will like (Cory Kennedy) some you won't (Yosiah) but either way what they're doing is just running a damn website filled with footage from their private skatepark and it's not their fault it became so popular that it's "killing street skating" or whatever.
He's been in the game a long, long-ass time and doesn't deserve this level of hate. The sad thing is I know he does lurk here and I know that some of what he's read has upset him, or he wouldn't be Tweeting and emailing about it. Even sadder is that I guarantee that even the gnarliest haters here would say none of this shit to his face.
Age 19: aired-out heelflip Indys and fakie 540°s on vert and fakie ollie Carlsbad Jr.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMDezrjq40
Switch inwards and every other flip trick you can think of, age 21:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xagq8c_steve-berra-in-foundation-tentacles_sport
25 years old: first kickflip 5050 on a round rail that I ever saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkcKET-jRAE
35 years old and more versatile, more polished than ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kPfrCZmP_8
Conclusion: I don't think a penchant for melodrama and a disingenuous marketing scheme sufficient to nullify his manifold positive contributions to the past, present, and future of skateboarding culture. And I'm confident that the silent majority of Pals share my opinion.
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...Berra skating those stupid yellow flatbars in Mindfield.
His The End part that was NOT. "Up to date skating" that was definitely NOT.
I don't think there's anyone who posts here (who isn't pro) who could do a legit fakie flip tailside on one of those yellow flatbars, let alone in a line. Since when are colored flatbars an object of ridicule?
And his last pair of tricks in that part are 100% unfuckwithable.
P.S. steezus you're a fag that deserves a banhammer for flooding like that but it's easily defeatable via the "End" key.
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Maybe you're on to something. I heard 783 engineers agree that there is a SLAP conspiracy against Berra.
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are you fucking kidding me?
Did you actually try to include gonz and berra in the same sentence in skateboarding?
This thread is suspect and i already know this is about to be another atom bomb because you fucking berra people won't let it go to rest, it has been pretty quiet lately. dude's a kook and we all know it.
No one on here has "defended" a skateboarder like this thread let alone that it has to be fucking steve berra because you fucks cannot realize the dude is nuts.
Jesus, now someone just needs to include the new rumours popping up as of the last week and now we have World War 3 yet again.
Where's Watson? He'll make this thread more interesting than Berra's skating which hasn't been interesting since the End.
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OK so the Unified announcement vid was shady. Fine. But he came correct and clarified things. And about covering expenses he does have a point—look at how many dudes he's got on salary. Donovan, Reda, Salman, bunch of video and web dudes, and surely others. That's a lot of dough. Do you know what it takes to eke out even a modest living in LA? About five grand a month, at least. I doubt Buttery D is seeing that from Steve, but I doubt Salman or Reda would work for anything less.
The problem is, that Berra wants to make money while putting out an image, that he's helping. People saw through that and now are pissed. Nothing wrong with trying to make good business, but his attitude is really out of lines.
Attacks on his character. Who knows what kind of behind-the-scenes shit is happening. Wenning said he didn't want Selego on Habitat, and you guys were cool with that, but because it's Berra trying to keep Torey off Alien everyone goes berzerk. Double standard or what. And OK so he was into Scientology for a minute—maybe still is. Scientology was obviously a tool to help him get connected in LA when he was trying to segue into acting & filmmaking, two fields in which he found at least modest success. Twelve years later, he's 100% immersed in skateboarding, using his filmmaking and acting skills to create the #1 most visited skateboarding-related website. And out come the haters—because when your self-esteem is low, you have to despise that kind of success to validate yourself.
Well, Wenning was atleast a legit skateboarder. I don't know why he didn't want Selego on (is that even true), but i'm pretty sure you can't compare that to a wannabe actor, who doesn't skate (if skates, only fake spots) and wants an amazing rider off the team. Wenning didn't want Selego on, but Berra wants Pudwill off. See the difference? I don't really care for religion and using his filmmaking and acting skills to do what? That stupid lift video?
Bitching that he hasn't put out a part in however long. Has Cab? Or Gonz? The latter has been milking his "legend" status for years—his last legit part was Real to Reel, eight years ago, and now he gets paid thick to sell janky art and act like a schizophrenic clown on camera, yet somehow no one is permitted to hate on him because he did the Gonzollie in '86. The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined. Berra did a better job transitioning from old school to new school—when you look at his flip tricks you'd never know he was 36, not 26.
I can't believe you compare Gonz to Berra. This is the sentence that made me realize, that you're probably an idiot. For your information, Gonz ain't miling shit. He's a TRUE LEGEND and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Despite this, he still puts out interesting little clips with him skating. Berra ain't no legend and hasn't had a part since "The End".
He's been in the game a long, long-ass time and doesn't deserve this level of hate. The sad thing is I know he does lurk here and I know that some of what he's read has upset him, or he wouldn't be Tweeting and emailing about it. Even sadder is that I guarantee that even the gnarliest haters here would say none of this shit to his face.
Fuck off, please!
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Yes, indeed. I'm glad Gonz gets the props he does, but it's kind of a crime that so few kids know how important Natas was. Video-wise, he was even more important than Gonz in the 80s, since Gonz never had a real, full-length video part back then, and Natas had two that were both hugely influential and innovative.
thank you, i hate how natas gets slept on
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Go hate on something else, f***kholes
you can say fuck here
you fuckholes
Yeah, asterisks in your curse words invalidate your curse words here. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck!
Having said all that, I don't really get the Berra hate. I never saw the video, but I had gotten an email (for our shop) about the Berrics ad plan so I knew what it was before the vid came out... I don't get the controversy. I'm not into his politics or religion, but he's not trying to convert me, either.
...I've posted this ad nauseum, but he also gets props for the fundraising efforts he and the folks have done for different causes. Props on the free, updated footy too.
Not into his acting.
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Thank you for starting this thread, I was really getting sick of all the hate Berra's been receiving here.
I only find your Gonz-Berra statement a bit weird, but whatever.
And given, there are some things about the Berrics that I find really lame (Berra acting like he is the savior of modern day skateboarding) but I can see past that. All in all, the berrics is legit and Berra is a cool, down to Earth guy.
Go hate on something else, f***kholes
is lauwie a chicks name?
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scrolling through those 100's of pictures of old man lingerie tail pipe fucking was brutal.
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i cannot beleive no one has mentioned this yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvG7wi-dXtQ
hello? and also comeon have u seen gang of fourstar gonz boarslidin a wet rail on a 10 foot board!!! id rather watch the gonz goofin around and doin cool stuff then berra talk about the kids he rapes. oh yeah and tampa vert on a huge board.boom!
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This is the SLAP magazine forums. This is where everything gets "hated on" at some point and time and its a good system of ego checks and balances. Criticism is part of the spotlight, but its how you respond that people will remember. Look at Svitak and 1031. Took that hate and used it as advertisement material, laughed it off, and kept doing his thing. Berra could have done the same, or nothing at all, but he chose a different route and here we are debating about it.
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This is the SLAP magazine forums. This is where everything gets "hated on" at some point and time and its a good system of ego checks and balances. Criticism is part of the spotlight, but its how you respond that people will remember. Look at Svitak and 1031. Took that hate and used it as advertisement material, laughed it off, and kept doing his thing. Berra could have done the same, or nothing at all, but he chose a different route and here we are debating about it.
Yep, shit's geting old!
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NO ONE HATES STEVE BERRA
EVERYONE JUST HATES HOW WE HAD TO JUST WATCH YOU GIVE HIM A BLOWJOB ONLINE
HE IS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING WHO GIVES A FUCK IF SOMEONE ON A WEBSITE SAID THEY DIDNT LIKE HIM
IM SURE HE IS SLEEPING IN A BED FULL OF BENJIS SAFE AND SOUND
AND DOESNT GIVE 2 FUCKS ABOUT WHO ME (OR YOU, ESPECIALLY) ARE
WHILE YOU ARE OUT HERE TURNING TRICKS... AND NOT 3 FLIPS OR ANY SORT OF SKATEBOARD MANEUVER
IT INVOLVES GAY SHIT, SUCH AS
OPENING YOUR ANAL CAVITY FOR BUTTERY DICKS TO INFILTRATE
WEDNESDAYS WITH RED ASS CHEEKS FROM GETTING COCK SLAPPED FROM GIO
HOW MUCH CUM YOU GONNA DRINK FOR A COUPLE BUCKS
MIGHT AS WELL DO GAY PORN FOR COKE FAGGET
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Berra is a cool guy with his heart in the right place who has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth and saying the wrong thing at times. Yeah he should have been upfront and said "hey were allowing shops to advertise on the Berrics for cheap" but he didn't. Speaking of, what are Slap and other skate websites doing for the local skate shop? Is that an advertisement for Skateshoewarehouse.com I see up there?
You really shouldn't go around making comparisons with Steve Caballero and Mark Gonzales though. That's frickin' sacrilegious. Steve Caballero has had the longest continuous career in skateboarding out of anyone, he's never disappeared off the scene, has done everything from pool to vert to street to slalom and has stayed relevant the entire time. The guy is a "skateboarder" in the purest sense and an inspiration.
You may thing that the Gonz is goofing around but look at the amount of board control some of that goofing around takes. Also, it's his goofing around with shit like trying to kickflip a street board and trying to slide down a handrail that's brought skateboarding to where it is. He's never limited himself or listened to anyone trying to tell him what the rules of skateboarding are and we are all better for it.
Berra turned pro for being super good and building on the foundations guys like Cab and Gonz laid down. But he will never ever be considered in the same league as them.
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i had no plans of ever posting this but i've actually met both salman and berra a while back and both of them were really nice guys. i was a little starstruck hanging with these dudes but they were not on some cool guy shit at all, they just kicked it and had a good time with everybody. then they made the unified video and kind of blew it for me(among other rumors that have been surfacing).
nobody has a problem with making money but the way they went about it was all wrong. if you're going to ask for money just be upfront about it, no ones going to hate you for it. but instead they tried to mask it and tried to make it sound like they're were doing everyone a favor. thats hard to respect no matter how you slice it and for that, he should expect to receive some hate.
will i forgive and forget at some point down the road? of course i will, i don't know enough about them personally to have a vendetta against them for all of eternity but i can only speak for myself. everyone makes bad choices and says stupid things but in the world of internet, people hold grudges forever and its unfortunate thats just the way it is. i will always respect both berra and salman(and koston too) as good skaterboarders but it won't go beyond that for a long time coming.
at the end of the day, the majority of people out there will continue to visit the berrics and not give a shit one way or the other. i didn't visit the site much to begin with and i will continue not to do so because i don't find any enjoyment from watching pros play skate or watching pros skate the same skatepark over and over week after week. i get why so many people are fascinated by it, i'm just not one of those people.
i'm sure the heat will die down from all this as soon as someone else in skateboarding pulls some next level stupid shit so don't let it keep you up at night steve/salman/koston.
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The truth is that Berra's video CV is more impressive than Cab's and Gonz's combined.
I like Cab and I was pleased to see him reinvent himself in the late 90s as the master of long, low, gently declining rails
Berra... ...perfected a well-rounded, clean style that combined tech and gnar.
I don't think there's anyone who posts here (who isn't pro) who could do a legit fakie flip tailside on one of those yellow flatbars
Ahahahah Dallas. I was going to stay away from this thread, but all these quotes really just prove what a stupid piece of shit I've always been saying you are.
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I like the Pappalardo controversy threads much better than the Berra ones.
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id rather watch a "schizophrenic clown" any day of the week over some L.A. yuppie who is reaching out to 14 year olds because he knows his time in the industry is short.
you're an idiot
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Berra changed the game but in more subtle ways. He was one of the first to flip into rail tricks and he perfected a well-rounded, clean style that combined tech and gnar.
Not to take anything away from Gonz's achievements. He and Natas birthed street skateboarding in the '80s, but in the '90s Berra helped to refine it.
Mike V also helped to "change the game" in the early 90s but because of his bullshit antics since than, I see no reason to respect him.
Same with Berra.
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ugh, throw this dumbass topic in the berra vagina thread.
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ugh, throw this dumbass topic in the berra vagina thread.
ugh, throw this dumbass topic in the berra vagina thread.
ugh, throw this dumbass topic in the berra vagina thread.
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Yo fellas......
Yes.. i read the board quite a bit... i have debated registering from time to time... but never pulled the trigger. But here i am. bout to stick up for the Berrics.
You guys have to realize that when the Berrics first started it was extremely exclusive to folks that either lived close.. or other pros that had helped pay for the obstacles. It reminded me of the old World park. When i was lucky enough to get an invite... (the first park set up years ago)... i couldn't even skate.. i was embarrassed.... rollin in and seeing Guy, Koston, Ave, Bieble, TK, and a few others. Koston was learning switch back nose blunts down the old rail.. and Guy was doing impossible lip slides and back 270 lips down the same rail. Fuckin SICK!!
When i seen the Berrics go live on the web.. i was so pumped. So pumped... that i went out there to film some stuff. While i was there.. i got to watch PJ film some Battle Camander stuff... I watched Cole film his in a couple days lol... I watched Apples film a Bangin in 1 day!! Needless to say.. im a huge fan. After i had spent some decent time there... i got to follow some of the daily "regiment". I saw that Team after team was showing up... I saw 25 pro's skating all at once.. I saw kids who win the online contest skating and filming.... I saw some of the neighborhood "local" kids skating... I saw some serious ill shit happening.
Now im not going to lie... Pro decks are dying. Skate companies are hurtin something crazy. There are so many "newish" elements that have caused it.. but that is the way it is right now. It is HIGHLY possible that skate companies could drop having Pro boards some day. It may get to the point were the skater just rides for a company.. and just represents the "brand" rather than representing his board. Almost like riding for a distribution instead of a board company. To me... thats fucked. But skate shops aren't selling as many "pro boards" as they used too... some of the bigger "mall" type stores have backed down from pro boards.. a lot has to do with shop boards.. blank boards.. just cheaper ways to buy and sell them shits. I can't hate on that.... but companies have to find a way to stay in business or Pro skaters will no longer exist except in some shitty contest circuit.
With the lack of "Plaza" skating... its going to be hard to find another Mike Carroll, Henry Sanchez, Javante Turner, Rick Oyola, Matt Reason, Stevie Williams, Kareem Campbell, Popalardo, Ave, Welsh, ect. There are so many skaters that are hella good right now... that there is no where for them to "showcase" their steez. Everything right now is based on "tricks"... that isnt going to last. It gets boring. No more Kelch's or Clydes... Sheffs...ect. No personality. So... seeing all these dudes in one place skating together seems to be bringing back that feeling of "friendship" and the real reason people skated. Pushing and feeding off each other.
So the Berrics is extremely good for skating in my opinion. It gets me hyped to see footage... it gets me hyped to see some new kid "showcasing" his shit on the same shit Pro's have laid it down on. It reminds me of a plaza... i know its not.. but it reminds me of it.
As far as the mail order goes... Fuck yeah its good!! A place for my guys to have there shit for sale with out the wackness. All pro shit... all real skate shit... exclusive colab shit... its like FTC back in the late 90's. FTC had mail order.. but they didn't have a park to pay for... they just had the city streets. We don't have those so much these days. With the caliber skatings at... if dudes went and filmed some cool downtown skating shit with a back pack on.... they would get clowned. Especially that kids don't give two shits about style and flavor right now(yeah... im bitter bout that).
Anyway.. Steve and Eric have a lot on their plate... the warehouse costs a ton of money. I have to back them on what they are doing. Every single pro who skates there has to back what they are doing. How can you hate on that..... companies need something like this. Skate shops can use something like this. To run an ad in a magazine is regular. I think its 2,000 for 1 page per month! Or something like that. MAYBE there is 100.000 magazines sold. (i heard that number just recently... i could be way off though)... Berrics gets 6 million hits a month. 6 MILLION. That is some serious heat. But understand how much it costs to run a web site that has that much band width. Its all expensive. For advertising to come for shops as cheap as Berrics offered it... is pretty crazy. And good for the shops.. my guys are doing it.. so if they think its good... i have to back them too.
Lastly... its not like these dudes are millionaires. Neither has a show... neither are "mega" contest winners. Pro's don't get "retirement" money unless they caught percentage deals when the company they skate for gets bought. Even though the Berrics is dumb popular right now... its not like the park caught millions of up front dollars. It takes a long time to grow that shit. A long time. After TAXES and payroll... there isn't much left. Maybe... hopefully.. in the future... the Berrics will make a bunch of good dough... and the shops that they support... and the shops that support them will grow together.. and eventually skateboarding will grow and make good cash like it did in the late 90's early 2000's. Then there can be a whole new influx of skaters who can make a living doing what they love.
The skateboard business is dying..... The illest companies are barely holding on... pro's are getting pay cuts and flat out clipped across the board. Shits wack. Berrics is helping to keep that shit alive.
So.... with that.... i am now a registered member. lol.
Kalis.
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damn fam.... yall dont want it with Kalis
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i don't believe you are josh kalis....
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yo kalis. lets race for pinks.
i think my 1992 ford taurus can give that bmw a good run.
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yo kalis. lets race for pinks.
i think my 1992 taurus can give that bmw a good run.
I sold it. :(
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for what?
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If this is Kalis then tell me who was always taking "Amp's" car for the day and leaving him at home in Dallas? Also, what is "Amp"s full name?
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If this is Kalis then tell me who was always taking "Amp's" car for the day and leaving him at home in Dallas? Also, what is "Amp"s full name?
What car you talking about..... the bug, the caddy... or the sunfire? Me, Dawong, and Ernest used to put that kid through some serious shit. But he paid some dues.... so Anthony is part of the family now. Him and Dawong come visit me every year. Amp is now a manager at a gas station... and Dawong started a clothing company called "Trife".
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for what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYZidDudqnQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2uG2tSxtHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Dp7Dtmjnc
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Pretty tight, that paint job is whack as fuck though. Shoulda kept the M and turbo'd that.
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If this is Kalis then tell me who was always taking "Amp's" car for the day and leaving him at home in Dallas? Also, what is "Amp"s full name?
What car you talking about..... the bug, the caddy... or the sunfire? Me, Dawong, and Ernest used to put that kid through some serious shit. But he paid some dues.... so Anthony is part of the family now. Him and Dawong come visit me every year. Amp is now a manager at a gas station... and Dawong started a clothing company called "Trife".
I think they took all his cars but mainly the Sunfire is what I remember. Haha! He used to call Chrome asking us if we'd seen Dawong, Randy, and Ernest in his car.
Houston and me also saw Reagan about 3 years ago at a club in Addison. I was laughing at the guy across the room in grey sweats with a leather jacket and no shirt. As he walked closer we realized it was Reagan. Hilarious. He came up and talked for a bit. Last time I saw Dawong he told me he had a clothing company but I think it was called Pyramid or something like that.
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You have a '69 bitching camaro? Very American.
Also, since I assume this is the real Kalis, do you think berra himself is a bit of a kook?
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To be honest, I do not hate Berra that much and I'm a berrics.com visitor, but seriously you just can't compare Berra to Gonz or Cab.
Those guys are skateboarding, compared to them Berra is just a regular pro.
I was just wondering what you guys think about Koston being a part of all of this? I assume, since his name is involved, that he supports all the decisions about what's going on with the berrics.
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You have a '69 bitching camaro? Very American.
Also, since I assume this is the real Kalis, do you think berra himself is a bit of a kook?
I don't think he's a kook.... He lives by his own code.... he likes things a certain way.... and will live by that. Whether its beliefs, food, ect. He's his own man.
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You have a '69 bitching camaro? Very American.
Also, since I assume this is the real Kalis, do you think berra himself is a bit of a kook?
I don't think he's a kook.... He lives by his own code.... he likes things a certain way.... and will live by that. Whether its beliefs, food, ect. He's his own man.
If only more pro's could be as honest as you most of this may not have happened at all.
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Do you know what it takes to eke out even a modest living in LA? About five grand a month, at least.
damn dude what world do you live in?
you can live a great life at half that in los angeles.
and this thread is also...
<img src="http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/Photo85.jpg">
...dildos!
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but don't you think it's a tad bit shady to start up the unified program to let kids know who the "important" local shops are through the berrics and then turn around and start a full fledged mail order site through the berrics that's ironically taking money from the local shop?
and couldn't berra at least give free listings for shops to get put on the site then after they are posted on the site charge them to get the extra stuff like banners and shit? seems reasonable doesn't it? i mean in the phone book every business gets it's name and number posted for free.
btw i think my ford taurus could take that camaro in the quarter...you would just have to give me an 1/8th mile head start :)
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If there was a video of Cab and Gonz having sex, it would be better than any Berra part, ever.
Do people think they sound cool when they say shit like this in their heads.
"fuck i'm core, incoming gnars"
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who cares about berra man we got fucking Kalis in here
i was chilling at work freezing my dick off puttin away boxes of bolts and shit
eatin my fuckin mcmuffin and i come on here and i get to read some real knowledge instead of the usual bitch fest that goes down
sick of lookin at damn sneakers that i dont got money to buy on here all day anyway
plus i get off 1 hour early today bdatttttttt
alien workshop was a scientology experiment created in the 70s where they built steve berra to destroy skateboarding from the ground up!!! thats why you left, you found out thier plan!!!!!!! they brainwashed you into doing the bigspin bs tail on pyramid ledges. no human is capable of that. then you escaped and they replaced your memory with a new one of the berrics.
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Do you know what it takes to eke out even a modest living in LA? About five grand a month, at least.
damn dude what world do you live in?
you can live a great life at half that in los angeles.
for reals dude. if you think $5k($60K a year) is a modest living you must come from money and grew up spoiled.
i live in NYC, its probably the most expensive place on earth but somehow i've managed to live here for about a 3rd of that with no roommates.
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Wow...Kalis on the boards. That would be dope if it opens the flood gates for other pros to get on here and voice their opinion. It would be an all out war.
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i just dont want no fanclub bullshit on here ill gat those faggets up
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Watch out Kalis, if Berra find out you are posting here he will not allow you to skate there anymore, plus, you are part of cowards now! :P
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i make 2000 a month take home and i live at home lolz
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but don't you think it's a tad bit shady to start up the unified program to let kids know who the "important" local shops are through the berrics and then turn around and start a full fledged mail order site through the berrics that's ironically taking money from the local shop?
and couldn't berra at least give free listings for shops to get put on the site then after they are posted on the site charge them to get the extra stuff like banners and shit? seems reasonable doesn't it? i mean in the phone book every business gets it's name and number posted for free.
btw i think my ford taurus could take that camaro in the quarter...you would just have to give me an 1/8th mile head start :)
I think the word "important" is being misinterpreted . I think it means more along the lines of "skater owned". My opinion is the real reason for the Unified is to help the shop that wants to be apart of it get get in on the success of the Berrics. I know that Steve and Eric love skateboarding... and are doing everything they can to help keep it a float. They can't give away free advertising.
The difference in your phone book comparison is..... the phone books has thousands of listings businesses pay for in the yellow pages. So they can afford to have free white page listings.
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
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I wonder why Berra hasn't quit Alien Workshop. Isn't that mocking his religion? He believes in Alien spirits that come from volcanoes... not workshops.
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I always say you have to judge people by what they did in the context of the time they were in.
Gonz and Cab both changed skateboarding with what they did, video-wise. In the context of his own time, Berra is not and never has been revolutionary. He's had some gnarly footage, no argument there. But he wasn't a game-changer.
If you were around in 1987 and saw that clip of Gonz kickflipping the ditch gap in Texas, or the 180 ollie to fakie 5050 down the rail in Savannah, or the boardslide UP the rail in Savannah, or the ollie over the bench onto the rail at Oceanside in 1986, or the ollie to smith on a picnic table in the 1985 Thrasher video, that shit changed the way you thought of skating. Because absolutely NO ONE was doing that stuff then. And all that was way before Video Days even.
And do I even have to get going on Cab? The guy influenced more people than Steve Berra has pissed off. And that's saying something.
Yeah I feel what your saying about the Gonz. I remember seeing some photo of him ollieing one mini ramp to another and the gap was pretty huge in some contest and I was hyped on it and I get what CD is saying about Berra. He just comes weird in his clips at the Berrics, But I do think he's definently done some shit in his past parts like that KF 50-50 on a round rail.
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
He answered my question on the previous page about someone from 10-12 years ago here in Dallas. If it was a fake account he would not have known who I was talking about.
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I always say you have to judge people by what they did in the context of the time they were in.
Gonz and Cab both changed skateboarding with what they did, video-wise. In the context of his own time, Berra is not and never has been revolutionary. He's had some gnarly footage, no argument there. But he wasn't a game-changer.
If you were around in 1987 and saw that clip of Gonz kickflipping the ditch gap in Texas, or the 180 ollie to fakie 5050 down the rail in Savannah, or the boardslide UP the rail in Savannah, or the ollie over the bench onto the rail at Oceanside in 1986, or the ollie to smith on a picnic table in the 1985 Thrasher video, that shit changed the way you thought of skating. Because absolutely NO ONE was doing that stuff then. And all that was way before Video Days even.
And do I even have to get going on Cab? The guy influenced more people than Steve Berra has pissed off. And that's saying something.
Fast forward to 1:39 for the run... the gap is at the end. Legendary shit, and the run was sick, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfN7Mg5jIfA
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what do you think of the hpf stage 4 m3?
i thought you would have been one of the few to own one of those.
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i make 2000 a month take home and i live at home lolz
ahh, living the dream!
you're probably not going to listen to me but take my advice, don't waste your money on stupid shit and stack that cheddar!
i wasted a regular amount of money when i had a job and lived at home. if i put away just 10% of everything i've earned since then, i'd be retired right now, living in foreign country smoking pot and drinking mojitos with half naked chicks on the beach all day.
stack and save my man, stack and save!
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Wow! Kalis on Slap.
Welcome!
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what do you think of the hpf stage 4 m3?
i thought you would have been one of the few to own one of those.
I like them... but would prefer the stage 2.5. They did a nice job with that whole package.
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Kalis is in it for the Jeff Grosso Cruiser
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
As corny and embarrassing as this is....... here is your proof.
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God..... looking like a fucking person right there........... lol.
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Dude, i love slap.....welcome to the hate club
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what do you think of the hpf stage 4 m3?
i thought you would have been one of the few to own one of those.
I like them... but would prefer the stage 2.5. They did a nice job with that whole package.
wrd.
2.5 is pretty badass. but so expensive (plus i heard stage 4 has traction problems) :( but they do make the best turbo kits so i guess it's worth it. then you get to switch from meth to pump gas at the flick of a switch which i also pretty cool :P
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
GTFO! haha!
you gotta understand, its the internet and even worse, its slap.
everyone that post here could be anyone, you never know whos pulling your chain up in this piece!
its rad that you're posting here. you're one of the few pros who are brave enough to post and reveal their real identity, i respect that.
but now that you've posted your picture, you should know that getting cocks photoshopped on your face is a right of passage here. ;D
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what do you think of the hpf stage 4 m3?
i thought you would have been one of the few to own one of those.
I like them... but would prefer the stage 2.5. They did a nice job with that whole package.
wrd.
2.5 is pretty badass. but so expensive (plus i heard stage 4 has traction problems) :( but they do make the best turbo kits so i guess it's worth it. then you get to switch from meth t pump gas at the flick of a switch which i also pretty cool :P
It seems we will now need car forum here at Slap :).
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what do you think of the hpf stage 4 m3?
i thought you would have been one of the few to own one of those.
I like them... but would prefer the stage 2.5. They did a nice job with that whole package.
wrd.
2.5 is pretty badass. but so expensive (plus i heard stage 4 has traction problems) :( but they do make the best turbo kits so i guess it's worth it. then you get to switch from meth t pump gas at the flick of a switch which i also pretty cool :P
It seems we will now need car forum here at Slap :).
:D
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My nigga Kalis!
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Cool. Its Josh Kalis.
Congratulations COTG. You're now Slap's 2nd best Skateboarder
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
GTFO! haha!
you gotta understand, its the internet and even worse, its slap.
everyone that post here could be anyone, you never know whos pulling your chain up in this piece!
its rad that you're posting here. you're one of the few pros who are brave enough to post and reveal their real identity, i respect that.
but now that you've posted your picture, you should know that getting cocks photoshopped on your face is a right of passage here. ;D
lol.......I would expect nothing less.......
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welcome to the club mr. kalis
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God..... looking like a fucking person right there........... lol.
dont fret, you're not the first.
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I think it must be weird to scroll to the bottom of the page and see a picture of yourself
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Can't wait for the I hate Slap forum berrics tee's.
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I hope it has a hamburglar picture on it
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I
might buy will steal one of those.
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God i want to design one and make it anyway now!
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Commercial D, you are just as motherfucking dumb as a post aren't you? I can't imagine how much it would suck to have to go through life with an intellect like yours. I guess the Darwinian in me will just have to be content knowing that you will likely get what your talents and abilities earn for you in this life (not much), and (hopefully!) that through a long series of events that will take place over the next several thousand years, people like you will eventually be far fewer in number.
Big ups to the dude who put up the images of the weirdo with his dick in the car exhaust.
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whats going on at this website pretty much sums up my feelings about berra at this point...http://tacobell.com/
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all i can say is that berra wasnt the only person trying to keep torey off alien and this was a long time ago anyway, that guy sucks, sure he is good at skating but his style sucks and he seems like a douche. berra is rad, has been killing it for years, the berrics is cool just kinda gotten too big, but if something is working why not go with it? the scientology thing really bummed me out on berra for awhile because it is an admitted scam religion, but berra really is into skateboarding and knows good skateboarding and i can't hate on him for that simple fact. sure i'd like to see a "real" full part from the guy, but shit there are tons of skateboarders who i'd like to see new good parts with them actually pushing themselves and some of them are 10 years younger than berra.
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This thread blows!! But...
Fast forward to 1:39 for the run... the gap is at the end. Legendary shit, and the run was sick, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfN7Mg5jIfA
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
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God i want to design one and make it anyway now!
you owe me 10%
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This thread is fucking pointless. Stop the second hand embarrassment.
For anyone that doesn't know yet this douche is commercial d.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__rPLmR5ViI
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hurry up and merge this thread with all the other berrics ones haha
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it would be cool if berrics re-built love park in philly but you were allowed to skate there
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This thread is fucking pointless. Stop the second hand embarrassment.
For anyone that doesn't know yet this douche is commercial d.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__rPLmR5ViI
What the fuck did I just watch?
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This thread is fucking pointless. Stop the second hand embarrassment.
For anyone that doesn't know yet this douche is commercial d.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__rPLmR5ViI
D should do his own version of this where he'd react to the situation in his own way. Just gonzo style.
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woah did he just hate on the gonz?
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No, I mean like gonzo/indy style filming, not overproduced.
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scrolling through those 100's of pictures of old man lingerie tail pipe fucking was brutal.
this thread gave me a b0n3rz
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Just because you can write in the style of an apologist doesn't mean the points you're attempting to make become valid.
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Was that seriously Commercial D in that video? I guess he looks like a Berra fan. And that ho in the video should have bricked him.
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i gotta check that out when i get hoem, i always fucking miss it! it gets taken down adn shit. pisses me off.
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Let's kiss some ass!
Kalis, you're the shit! One of the best fs/bs noseblunts in the business.
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it would be cool if berrics re-built love park in philly but you were allowed to skate there
wouldnt that be the coolest
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Hey Josh,
Welcome aboard. Just to fill you in a little bit here. The hate for The Berrics doesn't just come from Steve's haircut or anything. There's a plethora of reasons that have built this thread into the 200 pages it is already.
- In Canada, mall shops have been destroying core shops. Well, Steve made exclusive shirts for West 49, a company you once rode for. So right there is one reason the scene is dying. Aside from money, there's no faith in the industry so long as kids with Ed Hardy shirts are gripping boards.
- Berra's video approach is what started this whole thread. You can see in the first few pages here people are all curious about it, wondering what Steve was going to do to "help these small shops". "Helping shops" assuming he's doing a favour. Well, as soon as he listed the prices... shit hit the fan.
- You may agree or disagree, but in reality, a pyramid of prices isn't going to help the small guy. It's going to help the ones who can afford it.
- Steve and Eric have money. They may not be rich, but they sure aren't poor. Look at Koston's twtter.
- Lastly, since this thread started, Berra's phone bill has been atronomical. You really don't need to be calling and yelling at someone repeatedly because they disagree with you. I've met these people. They're called ex-girlfriends.
For more updated info, you may want to visit this page.
http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/11/unified-theory-of-bullshit.html
and the follow up
http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2009/12/berra-vs-borra.html
and everything else in between.
http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/
Josh, as a pro, whatever you agree with on this page or not, you really should consider what's laid out on the table. If professional skateboarding wants to stay existent, the pros should pave the way, and not the suits. It's where it started and how it should end. Follow that dollar and see where it starts and whose pocket it ends up in.
Skateboarders aren't stupid. As long as Eric and Steve are charging for advertising, they aren't giving anything away for free, so they shouldn't act like it. The heart of charity comes from anonymity.
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I never understood why Gonz is such a sacred cow, but a guy like Berra (who's been around nearly as long) has "a bullseye on his ass." Sure Gonz did lots of shit first, but did you read that Big Brother (I think it was) interview that was posted here? You know, the one where he admits he was obsessed with money. And look at his antics. He's got to have been one of the most money-hungry, gimmicky dudes in the industry (presumably a Slap cardinal sin) during the last 10 years with no legit footage during that time to show for it. Again, I respect the trails he's blazed, but Gonz is the very definition of milking it.
Reading a bunch of 20 year-olds tell me I don't know WTF I'm talking about is amusing. I've been skating since '91, and Video Days was the second video I ever watched (the first being Powell Video 8, with Cab), and I believe my analysis is accurate. It's funny how so many of you resort to ad hominem attacks against me while so few of you have attempted to address the points I've made (props to those who did though).
Like I said, Berra's been putting out industry video parts since '89. He's only 5 years younger than the Gonz. OK so he didn't kick down doors the way Gonz or even Koston did, but he's always managed to stay current with his skating, and there are many who argue that his backside flip is the best in the biz.
for reals dude. if you think $5k($60K a year) is a modest living you must come from money and grew up spoiled.
i live in NYC, its probably the most expensive place on earth but somehow i've managed to live here for about a 3rd of that with no roommates.
I'm also curious how one can live with no roommates on $1700 a month in NYC. Section 8? Staten Island?
A $400k mortgage is $2200 a month. And in LA that's a starter home. Plus taxes, plus utilities, plus maintenance... you're looking at more like $2500 a month, easily. If you're a grown-ass man you want a decent ride. You're looking at $400 a month in payments plus at least $100 a month in insurance, and maybe $150 in gas, so we're up to $3,150 now. Might be smart to put $350 a month into investments or a 401k so we're at $3500 a month. Food—$125 a week on groceries, which brings us to $4k. Take a lady out to a restaurant once or twice a week at $50 to $100 at a time (if you're going cheap) and we're at $4,500. Like to party? I'm sure many Pals know it's easy to drop $100 at the club, so there goes the rest of your cash for the month. I haven't even factored in clothing or shoes, which most industry dudes get for free (but still buy on their own anyway).
Insult me all you want—that just shows your frustration at your inability to counter my argument. The fact is Berra has been putting out quality vid parts for 20 years and with his solid style and perfect flick Berra still to this day manages to look like a young man when he skates. The Gonz couldn't keep up and threw in the towel to become Simon Woodstock on steroids when it became apparent he wouldn't be able to shake off mob foot.
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Pretty sure no one cares about your stupid opinion. Ive steered clear of the entire Berra ordeal because I actually dont give a shit.
Just because you started in 91 doesnt make a regular opinion any less regular. I started in 92 and most of my opinions are pretty fucking stupid still.
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brooklyn brawler.....
Thanks for the links... i just read all of it.
I can't speak on the West 49 thing... because i have no idea about it.
I don't think Berra's video started this thing... the hate seemed to start half way through the BB2. Actually... there has been Berra hate here for a few years. Ever since his DVS video. All the discussion about fake spots and all that. So there was already a "hate" foundation. Even after he started posted clips out of the Berrics... some dudes would say... "damn.. that was sick... but i hate Berra"...ect. He already was "2 steps backwards" on catching ANY love on the Slap board. So now since the "hate" has been stacking up on him here for the last couple years... i can see how it could have gotten to this point.
I don't agree or disagree.... i have my opinion. My opinion is that he is offering shops to advertise on the Berrics for a deep discount. No other mail order shops have ever done anything like that. Thats cool to me. Its ultimately up to the shop.
Some shops buy advertising in magazines... they get 1/2 page ads.. or even full page. I really never see anyone dissin the magazine for running the shop ad. Nor have i seen another shop get mad at the one running the ad. Its virtually the same thing.
Of course they have money.... both have been pro for hella long. Both have family's... In my eye's... i wish they were filthy rich. Both have paved the ground for street skating. Berra did full cab flip to frontside nose slides 15 years ago. And Koston... shit.... what else needs to be said?? Go watch "Falling Down".... or even the H-Street video "Next"...
As far as your last couple sentences... Trust me... i know how the corporate thing in skateboarding goes.... shit.. the most popular sneakers here are the most corporate ones in the business...lol. Also... BOTH of the companies i represent for over 10 years got bought by corporate... one of which i thought would have NEVER happened.
Steve and Eric are not corporate suits. And truthfully... the pro's are paving the way for the Berrics.The pro's are supporting what the Berrics are doing.
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I started masturbating in 95, but that doesn't make me a better masturbator than you.
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I never understood why Gonz is such a sacred cow, but a guy like Berra (who's been around nearly as long) has "a bullseye on his ass." Sure Gonz did lots of shit first, but did you read that Big Brother (I think it was) interview that was posted here? You know, the one where he admits he was obsessed with money. And look at his antics. He's got to have been one of the most money-hungry, gimmicky dudes in the industry (presumably a Slap cardinal sin) during the last 10 years with no legit footage during that time to show for it. Again, I respect the trails he's blazed, but Gonz is the very definition of milking it.
Reading a bunch of 20 year-olds tell me I don't know WTF I'm talking about is amusing. I've been skating since '91, and Video Days was the second video I ever watched (the first being Powell Video 8, with Cab), and I believe my analysis is accurate. It's funny how so many of you resort to ad hominem attacks against me while so few of you have attempted to address the points I've made (props to those who did though).
Like I said, Berra's been putting out industry video parts since '89. He's only 5 years younger than the Gonz. OK so he didn't kick down doors the way Gonz or even Koston did, but he's always managed to stay current with his skating, and there are many who argue that his backside flip is the best in the biz.
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for reals dude. if you think $5k($60K a year) is a modest living you must come from money and grew up spoiled.
i live in NYC, its probably the most expensive place on earth but somehow i've managed to live here for about a 3rd of that with no roommates.
I'm also curious how one can live with no roommates on $1700 a month in NYC. Section 8? Staten Island?
A $400k mortgage is $2200 a month. And in LA that's a starter home. Plus taxes, plus utilities, plus maintenance... you're looking at more like $2500 a month, easily. If you're a grown-ass man you want a decent ride. You're looking at $400 a month in payments plus at least $100 a month in insurance, and maybe $150 in gas, so we're up to $3,150 now. Might be smart to put $350 a month into investments or a 401k so we're at $3500 a month. Food—$125 a week on groceries, which brings us to $4k. Take a lady out to a restaurant once or twice a week at $50 to $100 at a time (if you're going cheap) and we're at $4,500. Like to party? I'm sure many Pals know it's easy to drop $100 at the club, so there goes the rest of your cash for the month. I haven't even factored in clothing or shoes, which most industry dudes get for free (but still buy on their own anyway).
Insult me all you want—that just shows your frustration at your inability to counter my argument. The fact is Berra has been putting out quality vid parts for 20 years and with his solid style and perfect flick Berra still to this day manages to look like a young man when he skates. The Gonz couldn't keep up and threw in the towel to become Simon Woodstock on steroids when it became apparent he wouldn't be able to shake off mob foot.
Well my good buddy best Dallas, let's now have a discussion not from out of our assholes but out of our lives. Let us discuss living modestly in the LAC and the expenses that actually occur here.
i live in claremont which is part of la county, california. A modest town east of the greater city.
my rent is $450 plus $350 in bills (elect, phone, interwebs, foods) my modest car is a ford focus which is $180 a month plus $150 to insure it. I put $100 away a month into my certificate of deposit account with firestone, as well as odds and ends change into my obama jar at home if you would like to include that. My girlfriend, skateboarding habit, and upkeep on my bike take up an additional $250 a month roughly so lets get that on the list too. Like the majority of us here on slap i don't "club it" because i choose not to be a faggot, but to be fair and relate to the gayocity you just committed with your "club it" ticket, i will put another $100 on there for pub and brew fees.
now according to my calculations that runs to 1580
aka
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I never understood why Gonz is such a sacred cow, but a guy like Berra (who's been around nearly as long) has "a bullseye on his ass." Sure Gonz did lots of shit first, but did you read that Big Brother (I think it was) interview that was posted here? You know, the one where he admits he was obsessed with money. And look at his antics. He's got to have been one of the most money-hungry, gimmicky dudes in the industry (presumably a Slap cardinal sin) during the last 10 years with no legit footage during that time to show for it. Again, I respect the trails he's blazed, but Gonz is the very definition of milking it.
Reading a bunch of 20 year-olds tell me I don't know WTF I'm talking about is amusing. I've been skating since '91, and Video Days was the second video I ever watched (the first being Powell Video 8, with Cab), and I believe my analysis is accurate. It's funny how so many of you resort to ad hominem attacks against me while so few of you have attempted to address the points I've made (props to those who did though).
Like I said, Berra's been putting out industry video parts since '89. He's only 5 years younger than the Gonz. OK so he didn't kick down doors the way Gonz or even Koston did, but he's always managed to stay current with his skating, and there are many who argue that his backside flip is the best in the biz.
Insult me all you want—that just shows your frustration at your inability to counter my argument. The fact is Berra has been putting out quality vid parts for 20 years and with his solid style and perfect flick Berra still to this day manages to look like a young man when he skates. The Gonz couldn't keep up and threw in the towel to become Simon Woodstock on steroids when it became apparent he wouldn't be able to shake off mob foot.
some people prefer not so perfect flick.... also, berra puts out more footage, but gonz footage is rare, and thats why people like it even more. supply and demand. also, just to throw this in there, gonz may not be able to come through with too much footage anymore considering he has a family, a hobby that consumes lots of time (making art), and a company to run...
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West 49 is the worst man. it put every shop in my city out of business except one and thats only cause they sell snowboards there they stay in business.
I think the main beef was Steve was trying to say he was going to help the small shops when really this is just going to kill the small shops.
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I started masturbating in 95, but that doesn't make me a better masturbator than you.
i put my masturbation skills on a pretty high pedestal. i think ive got that shit down and experience was key.
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Well my good buddy best Dallas, let's now have a discussion not from out of our assholes but out of our lives. Let us discuss living modestly in the LAC and the expenses that actually occur here.
i live in claremont which is part of la county, california. A modest town east of the greater city.
my rent is $450 plus $350 in bills (elect, phone, interwebs, foods) my modest car is a ford focus which is $180 a month plus $150 to insure it. I put $100 away a month into my certificate of deposit account with firestone, as well as odds and ends change into my obama jar at home if you would like to include that. My girlfriend, skateboarding habit, and upkeep on my bike take up an additional $250 a month roughly so lets get that on the list too. Like the majority of us here on slap i don't "club it" because i choose not to be a faggot, but to be fair and relate to the gayocity you just committed with your "club it" ticket, i will put another $100 on there for pub and brew fees.
now according to my calculations that runs to 1580
Well you're obviously sensible enough to live within your means and I commend you for your frugality. But when you're over 30 and your peers are rolling in Benzos, own their own cribs in Hollywood, and order bottle service a few times a week, you tend to set the bar a bit higher for yourself. Remember when Muska was recording Muskabeatz while staying for months at NYC's SoHo Grand? That hotel is like $500 a night. That's $15k a month just on lodgings. If you're "somebody" in the industry there's going to be peer pressure to live larger, and a Ford Focus and an Inland Empire address ain't gonna cut it.
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West 49 is the worst man. it put every shop in my city out of business except one and thats only cause they sell snowboards there they stay in business.
I think the main beef was Steve was trying to say he was going to help the small shops when really this is just going to kill the small shops.
This isn't going to put the small shops out of business..... they already got fucked by mall stores. Mail order has been around for ever. My first board "Steve Cab Bonite" Powell board was bought by mail order in 88-89. I believe that Berrics is trying to catch the eye of the new generation and the.. what would be "mall kids" who are addicted to the web site... and educate them. Show them where they SHOULD be buying there product and who they SHOULD support.... and what is supporting "real" skateboarding.
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Well my good buddy best Dallas, let's now have a discussion not from out of our assholes but out of our lives. Let us discuss living modestly in the LAC and the expenses that actually occur here.
i live in claremont which is part of la county, california. A modest town east of the greater city.
my rent is $450 plus $350 in bills (elect, phone, interwebs, foods) my modest car is a ford focus which is $180 a month plus $150 to insure it. I put $100 away a month into my certificate of deposit account with firestone, as well as odds and ends change into my obama jar at home if you would like to include that. My girlfriend, skateboarding habit, and upkeep on my bike take up an additional $250 a month roughly so lets get that on the list too. Like the majority of us here on slap i don't "club it" because i choose not to be a faggot, but to be fair and relate to the gayocity you just committed with your "club it" ticket, i will put another $100 on there for pub and brew fees.
now according to my calculations that runs to 1580
Well you're obviously sensible enough to live within your means and I commend you for your frugality. But when you're over 30 and your peers are rolling in Benzos, own their own cribs in Hollywood, and order bottle service a few times a week, you tend to set the bar a bit higher for yourself. Remember when Muska was recording Muskabeatz while staying for months at NYC's SoHo Grand? That hotel is like $500 a night. That's $15k a month just on lodgings. If you're "somebody" in the industry there's going to be peer pressure to live larger, and a Ford Focus and an Inland Empire address ain't gonna cut it.
Holly fuck, dude, you really are that much of a douche. I am fucking shocked.
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i feel the same way reading commercial D's "opinions" as i do listening to a bill o'reilly rant.
just to be clear. comparing berra to the gonz is probably the most pitiful thing i have ever heard.
truthfully, i just feel sorry for berra. what a sad thing when you have such a huge success (the berrics) but still worry more about what a couple people on a message board think or say.
when you get beat up by your own teammates for being a kook (berra bitch slapped by jovantae then crying)
you probably are a kook. especially if you start crying and quit afterward (berra quit 101 for birdhouse).
when a decade later your own teammates (dill) call you a kook, their might be something to it.
on another note, felix clearly has given more to skateboarding than danny way (5 more years of "industry parts". he's gotta be better)...
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First off, before you take any Rawbum posts seriously, listen to this shit. He represents everything we are to the realest.
http://www.grimcity.com/raw/RAWBERTSON_GRIMOIRES.mp3
But what he was talking about was the West 49 exclusive Berrics products which caused a stir here in Canada.
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West 49 is the worst man. it put every shop in my city out of business except one and thats only cause they sell snowboards there they stay in business.
I think the main beef was Steve was trying to say he was going to help the small shops when really this is just going to kill the small shops.
This isn't going to put the small shops out of business..... they already got fucked by mall stores. Mail order has been around for ever. My first board "Steve Cab Bonite" Powell board was bought by mail order in 88-89. I believe that Berrics is trying to catch the eye of the new generation and the.. what would be "mall kids" who are addicted to the web site... and educate them. Show them where they SHOULD be buying there product and who they SHOULD support.... and what is supporting "real" skateboarding.
I see what you are saying man... like, its not The Berrics' fault if a shop goes out of business. They should have been runnin their business better and keepin up with times right?
A skateboard shop is a mad difficult thing to make lucrative. A lot of dudes open up shops just cause they want to be more involved in skating and is often just a side project and shit. skateboarding economy, clearly shit has hit the fan and no one is making the kind of money that they want to. a lot of dudes who open skate shops also dont have experience runnin a business! so not all blame can be put on one aspect.
from a fan point of view it looks mega greedy but you are tryin to tell us it aint even like that. you guys are just tryin to stay pro and tryin to keep putting out shit for fans in the end you just dont wanna be doing the shit for free (or for a shitty pay anyway). I can't see how this 1 thing is gonna destroy all good shops from here on out but i think its just a major change to the game that the fans werent ready for.
fans shouldnt even worry about this kind of shit in my opinion though... i mean we going to get to see you guys skate more and that is always dope and berrics allows for that... i dont know if i can speak for everyone on this, but it seemed like a big part of what made skating underground or different from other shit was kind of taken away when berrics started gettin big. it made it more like seeing sports highlights every night instead of havin to wait 3 years for your favorite pro to drop a part to get to see somethin from him.
i guess theres pros and cons to both but i can say from a fan point of view that it does make it better because we get to see more shit. the downside being that a lot of pros that are less known are going to fall off the map in a sense... when the big businesses get bigger, the small businesses HAVE to get smaller. so maybe companies like city or traffic or whatever they might have to fold cause they cant keep up. and for the most part it is the bigger companies that are the lame ones. shoe companies are blowing up and it seems like their shoes just get crappier and crappier each year (durability wise). there are a few decent bigger ones but for the most part all the small companies were real cool and gave skateboarding more culture and diversity that the big companies just wont be able to do.
There is always going to be shit like slap or your favorite street spot or some park that is real as fuck not sugar coated in anyway, everyone can still enjoy skating with their friends and whatever that real street o.g. shit straight 94 brooklyn banks shit, but the game has changed lets face it. time to move forward, im still probably not gonna watch the berrics that much cause im sick of it, but i will be stoked when one of my favorite dudes has a banging section or recruited or whatever, ill definitely check that out. it has its place in skating, i guess just not for everyone.
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commercial d you are terrible at skateboarding and your girlfriend is a disgusting loser. there is no honorable way for you to die.
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Shes cute but clearly psychologically damaged.
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Hey Josh, can't you do switch backside noseblunts? Maybe I am mistaken but I could have sworn I have seen footage or a photo of you doing one.
One thing about this whole Berrics thing regarding Berra, is yes, there was a lot of criticism aimed at him from this board about "fake spots" in parts he has released, and he wasn't looked upon highly. The problem that people have with him that gets him more flack than somebody like Rob Dyrdek, who had a pretty short part in the last alien video and has a tv show, is that Berra seems to get hyperdefensive and hateful in an obsessive way towards this place. Rumor on the street is that he kicked Erik Olsen out of the berrics for working at Slap, he had people who worked for him attempt to sabotage us in some sort of way, and there are a bunch of other sketchy stories that make him come off like a huge prick. Now, maybe this united shit isn't as sketchy as we all think it is, and maybe it is, but at this point, people who post here are not very ready to assume the best from him.
It's cool that you are coming on here and bringing your perspective. I don't know if you are going to change everybody's mind instantly, but its good to hear a level headed response from somebody who is defending all of this. It beats the hell out of "delete the posts and show yourself or I will expose all of your names and addresses to the world!!!!!"
Oh, and you posting here is kind of awkward, considering the amount of recent intense fanning out I have done. Oh well, is what it is. Always been hyped on your skating.
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Wait is that vid him or not? Cuz if it is then I can't believe he is still even on here! what the fuck was that!!! ahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha he's the new spanky/olson
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Well you're obviously sensible enough to live within your means and I commend you for your frugality. But when you're over 30 and your peers are rolling in Benzos, own their own cribs in Hollywood, and order bottle service a few times a week, you tend to set the bar a bit higher for yourself. Remember when Muska was recording Muskabeatz while staying for months at NYC's SoHo Grand? That hotel is like $500 a night. That's $15k a month just on lodgings. If you're "somebody" in the industry there's going to be peer pressure to live larger, and a Ford Focus and an Inland Empire address ain't gonna cut it.
First of all Muska beats fucking sucked. If you think it's cool to try and live up to rich people's standards just to fit in then you're even more of an asshole than I had originally thought... Wait a minute, you're the average American that over-borrows and overspends and ends up fucking yourself just so you can try and fit in with people who probably don't even like you. Fuck a "bottle service". How about you actually hang out with skateboarders rather than coke head bitches and wanna be actors. I promise they're a lot cooler and wont think that you're not hip if don't spend $1500 at the club on Tuesday.
P.S. I hope you and your entire family dies in a horrific car fire.
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berrics on some matthew effect type shit
fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
no, but in all seriousness. someone on here linked to the berrics and i saw that they were doing exclusive shit for the shops joining their unified thing, which is chill, and i gained a bit of respect for that.
really, if it wasn't for the whole unified controversy, no one would have been so mad & offended by berra. though he's always seemed like a douche in some way but his skating prior to berrics was dope. he should just keep his mouth shut more often and let more respected people do the talking for him.
as for the berrics. the occasional montage is sick. but i rather wait a while to see a new street part, or see footage from a different park. the whole berrics idea would be much radder if they went out and did tours to local parks or something rather, it would also save them much more money on rent. i know people are doing this already to a certain extent, but no one is constantly putting out footage like the berrics - and thats whats making people go there so often, because theyr constantly updating and not being lazy with the footy they have.
companies and homies could do this so easily, putting out park montages and decent throwaway each week (ex: skatemafia already on it), and just funny clips like the whole wednesdays with reda and text yo self - kids eat that shit up.
theres so much opportunity out there. i should start a skateboard marketing blog... god damn, maybe once im done with my finals.
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Trying to talk shit on gonz? get the fuck out of here! Berra is the opposite of "letting his skating do the talking" he's letting his talking do everything.
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I read this whole thread.
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theres huge difference in pricing between running a print ad which requires paper, ink, distribution, etc, as opposed a simple text listing on any website. he made the comparison in the 2nd video and i wasn't falling for it then either. the total combined cost of running a print ad cost 1000 times more than a virtual one. maybe you know this but what does it cost for DC to print up a paper catalog and mail it out to every account? now how much does it cost create a PDF file and email it? its not the same in the slightest and really, it would take the web guy less effort to create a simple text listing than it took me to type this one sentence.
you stated that hes giving everyone a huge discount but in my eyes its the complete opposite. not because $50 is a lot of money but simply because you're not getting much for your $50. if someone offered to wash and detail your car for $50 then i took it through a $5 car wash, wouldn't you be like WTF? because thats what shops would be getting for $50, more or less, nothing.
as far as steve getting hated on. its a well known fact that haters are always more vocal than the people who give praise here. that goes for all messageboards in the internet, not just skate ones. and for every 1 person that says something positive, you'll find 100 people that says something negative. and thats not even the internet, thats in life. he being a 36 year old should know this and not take this place or the people who post here seriously.
believe me, i've been getting the business from the pals lately myself but i'm still here and hanging out because i know at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what i said or they said, they'll soon forgive and forget and everyone will go about their lives. thats how mature grown people handle internet hate. what they don't do is go on their twitter account and complain about it.
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The fact is Berra has been putting out quality vid parts for 20 years and with his solid style and perfect flick Berra still to this day manages to look like a young man when he skates. The Gonz couldn't keep up and threw in the towel to become Simon Woodstock on steroids when it became apparent he wouldn't be able to shake off mob foot.
You sir, are the biggest idiot ever.
Goodjob!
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for reals dude. if you think $5k($60K a year) is a modest living you must come from money and grew up spoiled.
i live in NYC, its probably the most expensive place on earth but somehow i've managed to live here for about a 3rd of that with no roommates.
because i don't party like it 1999! nah, i live my life based on the things i need and not the things i want. this allows me to have free time to post on slap, skate, and enjoy my life. its either that or turn into a drone again and pretend i'm happy because i have more money than the next guy. money doesn't buy happiness, its just makes things easier but you gotta remember, nothing worth doing is ever easy.
what the hell is section 8? welfare? unemployment? sorry my dude, i'd rather that money go to people who actually need it. i'm an able bodied male that can earn his own keep. i live in uptown manhattan, washington heights and have a 2 bedroom all to myself. i don't need to live it up like johnny cool guy so i can impress people with a downtown address. the only person opinion of me thats ever mattered is my own.
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theres huge difference in pricing between running a print ad which requires paper, ink, distribution, etc, as opposed a simple text listing on any website. he made the comparison in the 2nd video and i wasn't falling for it then either. the total combined cost of running a print ad cost 1000 times more than a virtual one. maybe you know this but what does it cost for DC to print up a paper catalog and mail it out to every account? now how much does it cost create a PDF file and email it? its not the same in the slightest and really, it would take the web guy less effort to create a simple text listing than it took me to type this one sentence.
you stated that hes giving everyone a huge discount but in my eyes its the complete opposite. not because $50 is a lot of money but simply because you're not getting much for your $50. if someone offered to wash and detail your car for $50 then i took it through a $5 car wash, wouldn't you be like WTF? because thats what shops would be getting for $50, more or less, nothing.
as far as steve getting hated on. its a well known fact that haters are always more vocal than the people who give praise here. that goes for all messageboards in the internet, not just skate ones. and for every 1 person that says something positive, you'll find 100 people that says something negative. and thats not even the internet, thats in life. he being a 36 year old should know this and not take this place or the people who post here seriously.
believe me, i've been getting the business from the pals lately myself but i'm still here and hanging out because i know at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what i said or they said, they'll soon forgive and forget and everyone will go about their lives. thats how mature grown people handle internet hate. what they don't do is go on their twitter account and complain about it.
I want to reply to this......
Your post was true a few years ago.... but now big web site advertising is a better bang for your buck. You would be dumb founded if i told you how much a 1x1 inch square of ad space is on the transworld site. The only reason i know is because DC was paying for it...... and its over 3x's what a full page spread costs in the mag.
Gipper....
I can "sort of" do switch back nose blunts. Specific ledges.... end to end... i can't slide them very long.... and i can't do them from the side.
You, like myself.... love to see real street footage. Actually.. i prefer "city" footy. And thats hard to find these days.
Maybe you should start a blog.... your from Chi, right. That IS the best kept secret in the US. Loop all night after 11pm. Im in those shadows all the time. Silas lives there now too. Lets blow that shit up.
Penis....
Yo... im a fan too, bro!!
My favorite sections so far is.. the Volcom United Nations.. Cody Mac murdered it. PJ's battle Camander... but my real favorites are the Bangin's. Jack Curtain, Eli Reed, Louis "mega pop" T, Weiger....ect.
City is a ill ass company with a ill ass team. Russ is such a "skate gangsta". I can't wait to see his next part.
I really like Traffic too. Jack Saback is so dope. I really wish i could see more of Rich, Jack, and Rick.
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Yo Kalis, you gotta get your hands on this japanese video called Night Prowler. Rich kills it, mad creative "city" skating in it.
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commercial douche, people don’t constructively respond to your opinions for the same reason they don’t constructively respond to homeless crackheads yelling gibberish or autistic kids rubbing their shit on the walls - some people are just too far gone.
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Well put.
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That 50-50 pop over he does in The End is fucking sick.
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Look I'm just going to say it, I heard Commercial D CAN SUCK HIS OWN DICK!!!!!!!! no lie. ok well kind of a lie. but fuck that guy!
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Steve Berra is a vagina thread.
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So down for the new Rawb album. Shit made my day.
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if you really are kalis, take a pic of yourself while your computer is logged on slap as DGKalis.
call me skeptical but theres been too many fake accounts on here with all the right info.
i wouldn't be surprised if hes someone from the berrics posting as kalis because they know must of us here are down for the dude.
lol........ I guess i could.... there is a foot of snow on the ground here. I got nothing better to do.
hold up real quick.............
GTFO! haha!
you gotta understand, its the internet and even worse, its slap.
everyone that post here could be anyone, you never know whos pulling your chain up in this piece!
its rad that you're posting here. you're one of the few pros who are brave enough to post and reveal their real identity, i respect that.
but now that you've posted your picture, you should know that getting cocks photoshopped on your face is a right of passage here. ;D
lol.......I would expect nothing less.......
Let me preface this picture by saying I am actually a huge fan, but I just had to....
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/biggwatt/KalisSlap.jpg)
Welcome to Slap, Kalis. Even though we have differing opinions on the matter, you're coming off cool as fuck. Lots of pros could learn a thing or two.
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i live in uptown manhattan, washington heights and have a 2 bedroom all to myself.
Sounds like someone lucked into a rent-stabilized apartment. Nice! Need a roommate?
Oh, and...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing))
You guys got it confused. You've misread what I've written, jumped to conclusions, and ascribed to me opinions that I don't possess. I don't think it's cool to live up to rich people's standards just to fit in. I'm not an advocate for the bottle-service lifestyle, and I'm not a nightclubbing douchebag. I'm pretty frugal myself. But c'mon—we all know that the industry is chock full o' dudes who are about that lifestyle. For example, this summer I spent a good deal of time with a former Zoo am who, after a few drinks, would think nothing of blowing $1000 a night. Easy come, easy go?
You seem to be trying to disagree with me just for the sake of it. Fact is, depending on your perspective, $60k a year in LA can be a lot, or it can be fuck all. You might not like it, but America is a nation of social climbers, people flossing larger than they really are so as to gain acceptance to wealthier echelons in society—even if it means digging yourself a debt hole to do it.
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^^^Haha!
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lololololololol :D
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Oh Watson...you would
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Steve. On the real. Just let it go.
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Anyone else notice the sticker BGPs in the new Field Ops? :D
(http://ultraxs.com/image-0EE9_4B233669.jpg)
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I always say you have to judge people by what they did in the context of the time they were in.
Gonz and Cab both changed skateboarding with what they did, video-wise. In the context of his own time, Berra is not and never has been revolutionary. He's had some gnarly footage, no argument there. But he wasn't a game-changer.
If you were around in 1987 and saw that clip of Gonz kickflipping the ditch gap in Texas, or the 180 ollie to fakie 5050 down the rail in Savannah, or the boardslide UP the rail in Savannah, or the ollie over the bench onto the rail at Oceanside in 1986, or the ollie to smith on a picnic table in the 1985 Thrasher video, that shit changed the way you thought of skating. Because absolutely NO ONE was doing that stuff then. And all that was way before Video Days even.
And do I even have to get going on Cab? The guy influenced more people than Steve Berra has pissed off. And that's saying something.
Fast forward to 1:39 for the run... the gap is at the end. Legendary shit, and the run was sick, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfN7Mg5jIfA
Thanks homie. The run was sick and even after the ollie he was still killing it afterwards. Classic Gonz .
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Gipper....
I can "sort of" do switch back nose blunts. Specific ledges.... end to end... i can't slide them very long.... and i can't do them from the side.
You, like myself.... love to see real street footage. Actually.. i prefer "city" footy. And thats hard to find these days.
Maybe you should start a blog.... your from Chi, right. That IS the best kept secret in the US. Loop all night after 11pm. Im in those shadows all the time. Silas lives there now too. Lets blow that shit up.
ha. City shit is the best. I don't live in the Chicago area anymore, but I grew up skating the city. We were all about it, take the train downtown any chance we could. Even if there was something exactly like a spot in the city in the suburbs, we'd hit up the Chicago spot, and never even bother with the suburban one. I'm pretty sure if heaven exists its just one perfect summer day at the art institute after another. I'd still love to see Chicago get the respect it deserves though, and can't wait to see some Silas footy from there. Are you still up around there? I was under the impression you moved to San Diego or something. If starting a blog would help, I'd be down, it would just be really odd trying to blog about what's going on in Chicago from LA (for the record I only moved here for school though!)
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i seriously just sat here for like 10 minutes trying to thing of something cool to say so that kalis would think im cool, and this is all i could come up with. now i just look like a lame/weirdo . . . .
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Yo fellas......
Yes.. i read the board quite a bit... i have debated registering from time to time... but never pulled the trigger. But here i am. bout to stick up for the Berrics.
You guys have to realize that when the Berrics first started it was extremely exclusive to folks that either lived close.. or other pros that had helped pay for the obstacles. It reminded me of the old World park. When i was lucky enough to get an invite... (the first park set up years ago)... i couldn't even skate.. i was embarrassed.... rollin in and seeing Guy, Koston, Ave, Bieble, TK, and a few others. Koston was learning switch back nose blunts down the old rail.. and Guy was doing impossible lip slides and back 270 lips down the same rail. Fuckin SICK!!
When i seen the Berrics go live on the web.. i was so pumped. So pumped... that i went out there to film some stuff. While i was there.. i got to watch PJ film some Battle Camander stuff... I watched Cole film his in a couple days lol... I watched Apples film a Bangin in 1 day!! Needless to say.. im a huge fan. After i had spent some decent time there... i got to follow some of the daily "regiment". I saw that Team after team was showing up... I saw 25 pro's skating all at once.. I saw kids who win the online contest skating and filming.... I saw some of the neighborhood "local" kids skating... I saw some serious ill shit happening.
Now im not going to lie... Pro decks are dying. Skate companies are hurtin something crazy. There are so many "newish" elements that have caused it.. but that is the way it is right now. It is HIGHLY possible that skate companies could drop having Pro boards some day. It may get to the point were the skater just rides for a company.. and just represents the "brand" rather than representing his board. Almost like riding for a distribution instead of a board company. To me... thats fucked. But skate shops aren't selling as many "pro boards" as they used too... some of the bigger "mall" type stores have backed down from pro boards.. a lot has to do with shop boards.. blank boards.. just cheaper ways to buy and sell them shits. I can't hate on that.... but companies have to find a way to stay in business or Pro skaters will no longer exist except in some shitty contest circuit.
With the lack of "Plaza" skating... its going to be hard to find another Mike Carroll, Henry Sanchez, Javante Turner, Rick Oyola, Matt Reason, Stevie Williams, Kareem Campbell, Popalardo, Ave, Welsh, ect. There are so many skaters that are hella good right now... that there is no where for them to "showcase" their steez. Everything right now is based on "tricks"... that isnt going to last. It gets boring. No more Kelch's or Clydes... Sheffs...ect. No personality. So... seeing all these dudes in one place skating together seems to be bringing back that feeling of "friendship" and the real reason people skated. Pushing and feeding off each other.
So the Berrics is extremely good for skating in my opinion. It gets me hyped to see footage... it gets me hyped to see some new kid "showcasing" his shit on the same shit Pro's have laid it down on. It reminds me of a plaza... i know its not.. but it reminds me of it.
As far as the mail order goes... Fuck yeah its good!! A place for my guys to have there shit for sale with out the wackness. All pro shit... all real skate shit... exclusive colab shit... its like FTC back in the late 90's. FTC had mail order.. but they didn't have a park to pay for... they just had the city streets. We don't have those so much these days. With the caliber skatings at... if dudes went and filmed some cool downtown skating shit with a back pack on.... they would get clowned. Especially that kids don't give two shits about style and flavor right now(yeah... im bitter bout that).
Anyway.. Steve and Eric have a lot on their plate... the warehouse costs a ton of money. I have to back them on what they are doing. Every single pro who skates there has to back what they are doing. How can you hate on that..... companies need something like this. Skate shops can use something like this. To run an ad in a magazine is regular. I think its 2,000 for 1 page per month! Or something like that. MAYBE there is 100.000 magazines sold. (i heard that number just recently... i could be way off though)... Berrics gets 6 million hits a month. 6 MILLION. That is some serious heat. But understand how much it costs to run a web site that has that much band width. Its all expensive. For advertising to come for shops as cheap as Berrics offered it... is pretty crazy. And good for the shops.. my guys are doing it.. so if they think its good... i have to back them too.
Lastly... its not like these dudes are millionaires. Neither has a show... neither are "mega" contest winners. Pro's don't get "retirement" money unless they caught percentage deals when the company they skate for gets bought. Even though the Berrics is dumb popular right now... its not like the park caught millions of up front dollars. It takes a long time to grow that shit. A long time. After TAXES and payroll... there isn't much left. Maybe... hopefully.. in the future... the Berrics will make a bunch of good dough... and the shops that they support... and the shops that support them will grow together.. and eventually skateboarding will grow and make good cash like it did in the late 90's early 2000's. Then there can be a whole new influx of skaters who can make a living doing what they love.
The skateboard business is dying..... The illest companies are barely holding on... pro's are getting pay cuts and flat out clipped across the board. Shits wack. Berrics is helping to keep that shit alive.
So.... with that.... i am now a registered member. lol.
Kalis.
I don't know if The Berrics gives off that same feel (the "plaza" feel), in fact i don't think it does at all. I don't think that vibe of skating will be able to be mimicked or even re-invented because of the laws and regulations of today. However I agree with you 100 percent that, thats what gets me psyched to skate everyday and thats what skating needs.
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I half suspect that tha D is just trying to get our goats with this retardo criddle thesis, but I'm just gonna say anyways that the amount of Gonz footage that came out in the last decade has probably been more than what Berra put out.
I'm sure I'm missing stuff but:
Berra
-The End (I think that might be 98)
-Mosaic (handful of clips in a shared part)
-Skate More
-Mindfield
Gonz
-Real to Reel
-Krooked Kronicles
-Gnar Gnar
-Gnaughty
-Diagonal
-Jason Schwartzman music video (industry banger part)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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If there was a video of Cab and Gonz having sex, it would be better than any Berra part, ever.
Do people think they sound cool when they say shit like this in their heads.
"fuck i'm core, incoming gnars"
Hey remember how you have no friends in real life?
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Thanks homie. The run was sick and even after the ollie he was still killing it afterwards. Classic Gonz .
Hell yeah... I also like the fact that the one he landed wasn't the one he really set up for, it was the one he tried after going wall to wall a couple of times. Fucking A.
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i live in uptown manhattan, washington heights and have a 2 bedroom all to myself.
Sounds like someone lucked into a rent-stabilized apartment. Nice! Need a roommate?
Oh, and...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing))
You guys got it confused. You've misread what I've written, jumped to conclusions, and ascribed to me opinions that I don't possess. I don't think it's cool to live up to rich people's standards just to fit in. I'm not an advocate for the bottle-service lifestyle, and I'm not a nightclubbing douchebag. I'm pretty frugal myself. But c'mon—we all know that the industry is chock full o' dudes who are about that lifestyle. For example, this summer I spent a good deal of time with a former Zoo am who, after a few drinks, would think nothing of blowing $1000 a night. Easy come, easy go?
Blah, you sound so much like my overly cautious friend. It's not impossible to live in NY... how do you figure the millions of Joe Schmoes living there right now and getting by?
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off topic a bit.
but ayo kalis, whats stevie saying, whens a new dgk film dropping.
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WELL SINCE EVERYTHINGS COOL WHERES THE SLAP UNITED NATIONS???
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Yo Josh, if you're in Chicago now where have you been skating over the last few days? ???
Its been snowing a lot.
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Gonz
-Real to Reel
-Krooked Kronicles
-Gnar Gnar
-Gnaughty
-Diagonal
-Jason Schwartzman music video (industry banger part)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
There's also, off the top of my head:
Kicked Out Of Everywhere (one of my favorites)
Get Familiar
SuperChampion Funzone
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i live in uptown manhattan, washington heights and have a 2 bedroom all to myself.
Sounds like someone lucked into a rent-stabilized apartment. Nice! Need a roommate?
Oh, and...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing))
You guys got it confused. You've misread what I've written, jumped to conclusions, and ascribed to me opinions that I don't possess. I don't think it's cool to live up to rich people's standards just to fit in. I'm not an advocate for the bottle-service lifestyle, and I'm not a nightclubbing douchebag. I'm pretty frugal myself. But c'mon—we all know that the industry is chock full o' dudes who are about that lifestyle. For example, this summer I spent a good deal of time with a former Zoo am who, after a few drinks, would think nothing of blowing $1000 a night. Easy come, easy go?
You seem to be trying to disagree with me just for the sake of it. Fact is, depending on your perspective, $60k a year in LA can be a lot, or it can be fuck all. You might not like it, but America is a nation of social climbers, people flossing larger than they really are so as to gain acceptance to wealthier echelons in society—even if it means digging yourself a debt hole to do it.
no usually its because you say something that is completely balls wrong.
If you're "somebody" in the industry there's going to be peer pressure to live larger, and a Ford Focus and an Inland Empire address ain't gonna cut it.
Claremont is in the ie?
<img src="http://www.hamqso.net/ke6alv/Inland_Empire_map_crop.gif">
When you are wrong, just admit it, and people then wouldn't be calling you a douche, Dallas.
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Show them where they SHOULD be buying there product and who they SHOULD support.... and what is supporting "real" skateboarding.
Props to Josh for showing up and being so cool - although who would have expected less from him, right?
Anyway, if we're comparing the Berrics to mail-order places, and we agree that to some extent the crappy non-skater-owned mail order/mall type places take business away from the "real" skater-owned small shops, than doesn't it follow that the Berrics is kinda doing the same thing?
I guess I'm not convinced that diverting money from small local shops to the Berrics coffers is supporting "real skateboarding." I think it's basically supporting Steve and Eric and Donovan and Reda - all of whom have been coming off lately as egotistical douchebags, and not people I want to support - even though I respect the TALENTS of all those dudes to various degrees (Koston is, of course, such a skate legend that it sucks to even have to include him in this shit).
Josh, I think what you're overlooking is how much Berra's attitude and - for lack of a better word - character is affecting everyone's feelings. He is coming off like a greedy, disingenuous little bitch. You obviously know him personally, and we don't, so if you say he's basically a good dude with poor web communication skills, I'll take your word for it. But he really hasn't been doing himself any favors - not just with the Berrics stuff but also with his reactions to ANYONE who dares disagree with him.
It's when the shit gets hard - when you encounter opposition or flack - THAT is when your real character gets revealed. Not when everything's going your way and everyone's down with you. Know what I mean?
thanks for shooting the shit on this - it's cool to have you aboard.
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KrewKrux...
Im not really sure when the video is dropping. I guess i should know...lol. I need to catch up on filming... thats for sure. I know the Expedition video is coming out too.
Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
bandini...
I understand what your saying. The difference i see is mail order is going to be there regardless... but having a mail order from these dudes who actually give an option to shops to advertise on the site is unheard of. And "i" think is respectable. Not that my opinion really matters.. but i consider myself a skater rather than apart of the business side of it. So i look at this shit as a skater. I won't make "extra" dough... i get paid what i get paid and thats that. Its not even royalty based anymore. (although... if my shit aint sellin... pay cuts are coming...lol) hint... hint...... :)
As far as your "character" text... yeah.. some people can come off with lack of character. I just see and know that Steve's agenda isn't "greed"... and when trying to explain a situation over and over can get tiring and tend to make someone aggro. I do see the side of the "Pals"... and can see how one might think there is a "make money off skate shops plan"... but its not really like that. Advertising isn't free.. and its usually not cheap. Its just an "option" for shops to "jump on the band wagon". A good example is my guys shop here in Michigan "Premier".... at this time.. they opted not to go Unified". When i asked them.. they said that the kids in this area already know about them... and they have a good clientele. They like the idea of the Unified and think it could be great for certain shops.. but they don't need it. So they aren't "hating" on the program... but they too sell a ton of stuff on there web site.
Thanks for the props!!
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Steezus Christ im making your sig into a t-shirt mad props on that shit haha
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TOO DAMN COOL
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Claremont is in the ie?
<img src="http://www.hamqso.net/ke6alv/Inland_Empire_map_crop.gif">
When you are wrong, just admit it, and people then wouldn't be calling you a douche, Dallas.
I admit, I was completely wrong. Thanks for correcting me. ::)
(http://ultraxs.com/image-A5E4_4B23FD04.jpg)
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For sure dude. I'll be on the look out.
I knew I wasn't going crazy when I saw Chicago footy in your Mindfield part. City's so slept on.
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DGKALIS where do you skate in Michigan during the winter? That must be rough.
Pals, what are y'all gonna say when you find out Steve from Exit in Philly has signed up to Unified?
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Commercial...
I skate at a park called Modern. Its pretty tight. My little homies are hella good. They try to show me all the "new" shit... and i try to school them on the "tight" shit. Its pretty fun. Big sessions on Monday and Weds nights. I travel a lot too. On my way to L.A. tomorrow for week.
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Claremont is in the ie?
<img src="http://www.hamqso.net/ke6alv/Inland_Empire_map_crop.gif">
When you are wrong, just admit it, and people then wouldn't be calling you a douche, Dallas.
I admit, I was completely wrong. Thanks for correcting me. ::)
(http://ultraxs.com/image-A5E4_4B23FD04.jpg)
anytime bro.
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Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
Awesome.
Oh, and good luck in LA, hopefully it'll stop raining by tomorrow.
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Josh, have you ever skated Airborne? And also, why are there so many rollerbladers in Michigan?
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Steezus Christ im making your sig into a t-shirt mad props on that shit haha
Sorry, I can't let you do that. I'm going to save skateboarding by starting Slap Forum Unified and selling them through my website, meatspin.com (http://meatspin.com).
Now give me your money.
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DGKalis, have you ever had a beer or smoke with your former teamate behind the berricas? Do you go outside to smoke a cig when you're there, out in an alley?
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hey josh,
when is your first DC shoe coming back? that shoe was amazing.
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Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
Awesome.
Oh, and good luck in LA, hopefully it'll stop raining by tomorrow.
What are some good videos with Chicago footage?
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didn't he already have his "pals questions"?
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Josh,
Welcome to the boards.
It's been mentioned, but I think the real point of contention here is the announcement of Berrics mailorder. As you said, mailorder has existed for years now; however you also mentioned the Berrics gets six million hits a month. Never has there been a mailorder company in skateboarding that can boast of figures like that. The Berrics has such a strong following amongst kids that I believe many of them would be more loyal to the website than to their local shop, even if they are listed. I feel that (legit) skateshops are the heart and soul of our 'culture' and as such it is every skater's responsibility to do what they can to support their local one. These days, with so many shops struggling to keep their doors open, can you honestly say you are comfortable with people choosing to order their product through the Berrics, rather than heading down to their local (which most likely needs every bit of business it can get)?
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Claremont is in the ie?
<img src="http://www.hamqso.net/ke6alv/Inland_Empire_map_crop.gif">
When you are wrong, just admit it, and people then wouldn't be calling you a douche, Dallas.
I admit, I was completely wrong. Thanks for correcting me. ::)
(http://ultraxs.com/image-A5E4_4B23FD04.jpg)
nice. but can you explain how felix deserves more props than koston again.
i'd like to hear that one as well...
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Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
Awesome.
Oh, and good luck in LA, hopefully it'll stop raining by tomorrow.
What are some good videos with Chicago footage?
There is really almost nothing with a lot of it on a national level. The only pro I can think of who has ever filmed a part that had mostly Chicago footage for a national video is Patrick Melcher in blackout. Usually it'll just be a clip at the bicentennial gap (looks like a subway entrnace gap, even though its actually a parking garage) or that one spot with the bump over this white pillar thing (Kalis nollie in DC video, and a friend (John Methvin I believe) backside flips it in his part)
The thing is, there are a lot of really good spots downtown in the loop like Josh was mentioning, but trying to get something on film at a lot of the spots can be really difficult, because a lot of spots are just those spots you go to knowing you are going to get kicked out pretty quickly, but try to get in what you can anyway, knowing if you get kicked out of the spot, you can just go down the block to some other plaza, where they will kick you out pretty quickly as well.
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Josh just wanna say it was a great experience seeing you shred Purple East and the Premier game of skate in like 2003. Much (Mich) love.
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Steve's gotta pay to advance in his religion some how...
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joshh you should venture out of this thread and explore all of slap. stop by the beautiful women thread, check out the myspace thread, and all of the other glorious threads this place has. what do you think of watsons photoshop job?
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this thread belongs merged into the big thread.
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I'm living off about $2k a month with my students loans in Venice, which is not the IE, and living quite comfortably. Just because the Muska is living large doesn't mean everybody else has to.
Also as for Berra's "progression:" watch his part in tentacles of destruction, watch his part in skate more, note the fact that he is doing the same exact tricks in each part, just on different stuff.
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i'm still dying about the part where you said it takes $5,000 per month to live a "modest" living in LA. you are some funny shit.
(http://nogoodforme.filmstills.org/images/lucy%20doctor%20stand.jpg)
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ugh, throw this dumbass topic in the berra vagina thread.
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Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
Awesome.
Oh, and good luck in LA, hopefully it'll stop raining by tomorrow.
What are some good videos with Chicago footage?
The thing is, there are a lot of really good spots downtown in the loop like Josh was mentioning, but trying to get something on film at a lot of the spots can be really difficult, because a lot of spots are just those spots you go to knowing you are going to get kicked out pretty quickly, but try to get in what you can anyway, knowing if you get kicked out of the spot, you can just go down the block to some other plaza, where they will kick you out pretty quickly as well.
sounds like toronto... i should do a trip this summer and go london, detroit, chicago.
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There really is a ton of good shit in Chicago to skate, but don't bother between November and April - shit is busted, wet, cold and brutal unless you're tough or dumb (or both). I love it anyway.
Saint Louis has a ton of spots that no one has ever skated, or that have never gotten any coverage - more than Chicago, even. Seems like every other building in Saint Louis has some sick bank to ledge.
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i was just wondering if st. louis was any good... i just saw it on the map when i was looking for chicago its the next closest big city. might have to add that to the list as well.
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Chi...
Im in Michigan right now. I usually skate Chi in the summer. Usually just late night jams with the homies from Uprise. I will be there quite a lot in the spring though. I want to get the majority of my DGK stuff in Chicago. Mainly in the Loop and the North side of downtown...(Hancock building area).
Awesome.
Oh, and good luck in LA, hopefully it'll stop raining by tomorrow.
What are some good videos with Chicago footage?
Here's a 3 minute video with Chicago footage. The most I have ever seen as far as semi-proish kind of footage. I'm on the prowl for good Chicago street footage, but always no luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l16f_IzOv_0
I'm sure there are local videos of the Uprise Skateshop guys as well as far as full length videos, but I haven't seen them yet.
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i don't know if anyone mentioned this yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYk9OT1x94
i think uprise made two full-length videos too.
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I just called Uprise. As far as feature length videos with all Chicago footage, the Uprise video out now is called Chicago's Finest. The other video by a suburban shop called Modest, is called Visual Sensation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHiZpp45ht4
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i don't know if anyone mentioned this yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYk9OT1x94
i think uprise made two full-length videos too.
this is the part I was thinking of, soo much goodness.
who grinded that rail at 0:21? Gary Smith? like 10 years ago.
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Local chicago videos:
all we got is us (super old, Mike Ruszcyk has a part)
Cold Broke (also old, with the curtains going to the infamous Jerret Berry)
SUprise volumes 1 and 2
Patrick Melcher has a part in blackout with a lot of Chicago footage in it.
Kalis has managed to sneak some chicago footy in from time to time.
Also one of the old thrasher videos has a Chicago section in it.
St. Louis, although filled with fun stuff to skate, isn't nearly as good as Chicago.
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the one and only time i went to chicago was exhibiting at a trade show and didn't bring my board. i got plenty drunk though.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqW6mKn_x28
daily gnars for as long as i remember.
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i was just wondering if st. louis was any good... i just saw it on the map when i was looking for chicago its the next closest big city. might have to add that to the list as well.
lots of shit to skate in st. louis, i remember a lot of filmworthy spots from when i was out there not too long ago. not much of scene out there that i saw though. i saw a bunch of spots out there that weren't waxed or showed any signs of being skated, and next to no "no skateboarding" signs anywhere. last time i was out there i didn't get to skate much cause of the rain, but i'm hyped to go back this spring.
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damn this thread is getting bigger in less time than the shoe or set up thread
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Chicago is 90% as cool as NYC at 30% of the cost.
St. Louis is ghetto. But has a great history.
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Local chicago videos:
all we got is us (super old, Mike Ruszcyk has a part)
Cold Broke (also old, with the curtains going to the infamous Jerret Berry)
SUprise volumes 1 and 2
Patrick Melcher has a part in blackout with a lot of Chicago footage in it.
Kalis has managed to sneak some chicago footy in from time to time.
Also one of the old thrasher videos has a Chicago section in it.
St. Louis, although filled with fun stuff to skate, isn't nearly as good as Chicago.
i have some old 411s still from when i started skating and there is actually a commercial for "All we got is us". jerret berry was the gay dude right? I always thought he was fake like larry perkins cause it was in big brother. i actualyl have both those issues still.
is the spot where kalis does the ollie up then crooked grind on some black metal stairs in chicago? (with the bug on the lense()
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Back on topic, I had a stroll through the mall and stopped by the local West 49. Seems as though The Berrics is part of a huge Holiday Christmas line-up.
Do any non-mall shops even carry The Berrics stuff, or is it all just the Happy Meal stores?
http://www.strategyonline.ca/articles/magazine/20040823/baio.html
According to the West 49 CEO, Sam Baio says "the shops for skaters back in the day were "back-alley shops" and "not parent-friendly." (i.e. I want to feed them MacDonald's)
"The whole thing is about being real," he adds. "So many people try to be in our retail business when maybe they'd be better off in a different age group or selling car washes." (We'd rather be eating sushi)
Now, I understand that the mall may be the last surviving place in Canada to buy a deck, so I thought I'd take a little slack off the companies selling there. I mean, the decks are on the wall, separate from the girl's section. The trucks and wheels are separate from the fat shoe lace rack.
But then I realized that when you make "exclusive products" for just only the mall, they put your product beside stuff like this.... Trust me I saw this.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lS3frAkkYWM/SNCEXFZXp-I/AAAAAAAABfc/5QJV0VVWE1E/s400/Picture+4.png)
(http://www.freestylextreme.com/images/product/BT104184FOB--Fall-Out-Boy-Girls-White-Studded-Embroidered-Belt-L.jpg)
(http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/the-berrics-headphones-2.jpg)
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the berrics is for skaters, skateshops and skateboarding alright! ::) ::) ::)
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what the fuck is up with that emily shit that they sell at wack 49 ? is it clothes for insecure tweens to rock when they cut they wrists??
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Back on topic, I had a stroll through the mall and stopped by the local West 49. Seems as though The Berrics is part of a huge Holiday Christmas line-up.
Do any non-mall shops even carry The Berrics stuff, or is it all just the Happy Meal stores?
http://www.strategyonline.ca/articles/magazine/20040823/baio.html
According to the West 49 CEO, Sam Baio says "the shops for skaters back in the day were "back-alley shops" and "not parent-friendly." (i.e. I want to feed them MacDonald's)
"The whole thing is about being real," he adds. "So many people try to be in our retail business when maybe they'd be better off in a different age group or selling car washes." (We'd rather be eating sushi)
Now, I understand that the mall may be the last surviving place in Canada to buy a deck, so I thought I'd take a little slack off the companies selling there. I mean, the decks are on the wall, separate from the girl's section. The trucks and wheels are separate from the fat shoe lace rack.
This is my primary beef with the berrics thing. As a canadian skater who's witnessed local shops being shut down because of the mall chain, its difficult to support anyone who backs west 49.
I have never seen one toronto shop carrying berrics gear. However, Alcatraz (loc. shop) posted some BATB 2 brackets and the next week they shut down.
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Of about 600 store staff, 75% are band members. Store managers are allotted on average $2,000 annually to sponsor local concerts, school fundraisers and other events which "turns every store manager into a mini-marketing manager," says Cindy Mielke, West 49's director of marketing, adding that this approach also helps the surrounding community "to connect with that store."
barf
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Reality is, the mall is going to be the only place companies can depend on money. No small shop can survive unless they sell snowboards.
We can deal with selling to the big box companies, but limiting to them isn't going to help any small shops. This is just like the Unified Tier system.
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I heard in austin texas its like impossible to street skate you are supposed to only skate at the skateparks
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"Mielke herself was hired, says Baio, because of her "pure talent, passion and enthusiasm." After more than 13 years in the sport, event and retail sphere working at Burton, a resort in Whistler and in event co-ordination, she met Baio at a job fair a little over three years ago and he knew she would be a good fit. "She's totally immersed in the culture," he says."
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Local chicago videos:
all we got is us (super old, Mike Ruszcyk has a part)
Cold Broke (also old, with the curtains going to the infamous Jerret Berry)
SUprise volumes 1 and 2
Patrick Melcher has a part in blackout with a lot of Chicago footage in it.
Kalis has managed to sneak some chicago footy in from time to time.
Also one of the old thrasher videos has a Chicago section in it.
St. Louis, although filled with fun stuff to skate, isn't nearly as good as Chicago.
i have some old 411s still from when i started skating and there is actually a commercial for "All we got is us". jerret berry was the gay dude right? I always thought he was fake like larry perkins cause it was in big brother. i actualyl have both those issues still.
is the spot where kalis does the ollie up then crooked grind on some black metal stairs in chicago? (with the bug on the lense()
They had an ad for that video in 411? It always seemed pretty ghetto to me, but rad never the less. Jarret was the gay dude. He did do some pretty gnarly shit back in his day too. I never saw him dressed the way he did until the big brother interview, and I think he was being sarcastic and kinda throwing people's phobias in their faces.
Ollie up crook was NYC I believe, but the bug on lens shot is at a street gap in chicago.
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I heard in austin texas its like impossible to street skate you are supposed to only skate at the skateparks
Jose Rojo got arrested for being at the session in downtown Austin, wasn't skating because of an injury.
here in Houston people i know get arrested everyday for skating some spot or another, my friend got arrested for skating an abandoned car dealership.
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thats how it was in florida. i live in colorado now but back then it seemed like the cops would only bother you if you were at some abandoned lot or an empty building.
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Joining unity won't get you out of arrest.
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Do any non-mall shops even carry The Berrics stuff, or is it all just the Happy Meal stores.
metro in the bay area carries some of their shirts.
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Sam Baio lives about 5 mins down the street from my parents, dude is a huge corporate douche
Cindy Mielke worked at the skateshop in my city when they sold snowboards during the 90s and early 200s, she was an epic fail of a person, just a generic robot that tried sooo ahrd to be core, and down. Me and the other shop riders made fun of her until shhhhhe quit.
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Do any non-mall shops even carry The Berrics stuff, or is it all just the Happy Meal stores.
they started shipping merchandise to shops on the unified list, to me that was the main goal, get money from advertising and give them an outlet to carry merchandise without being total sell outs and turning to zumiez and what not.
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I heard in austin texas its like impossible to street skate you are supposed to only skate at the skateparks
Jose Rojo got arrested for being at the session in downtown Austin, wasn't skating because of an injury.
here in Houston people i know get arrested everyday for skating some spot or another, my friend got arrested for skating an abandoned car dealership.
Which dealer ship? there is like 15 empty ones on I-45 with potential skate spots.
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I heard in austin texas its like impossible to street skate you are supposed to only skate at the skateparks
Jose Rojo got arrested for being at the session in downtown Austin, wasn't skating because of an injury.
here in Houston people i know get arrested everyday for skating some spot or another, my friend got arrested for skating an abandoned car dealership.
Which dealer ship? there is like 15 empty ones on I-45 with potential skate spots.
theres a shit load haha, the one he got arrested at was a Chrysler dealership in Tomball
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3986274038_bd941d9713.jpg)
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Is tomball where the racist kthree thing rallies are? Up 45N?
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What is "kthree?"' Some bullshit way to try and make the kkk hip for the new millenium?
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no its kcubed cause they all gleamed off meth sunn
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I havent seen any racist shit up in tomball, i mean you can find racism pretty much everywhere in Texas.
but yea its up in northwest Houston, the dealership is on 249
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no its kcubed cause they all gleamed off meth sunn
haha classic.
k
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What is "kthree?"' Some bullshit way to try and make the kkk hip for the new millenium?
Do not let that catch on.
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no its kcubed cause they all gleamed off meth sunn
kcubed would be 27 k's. Meth or not, that's a little too many k's. Stick to your rap game, your math game is rusty.
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no its kcubed cause they all gleamed off meth sunn
i've heard of the grammar police but now mathnet is on the case!
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no its kcubed cause they all gleamed off meth sunn
Only if k=3...
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i was about to say that... lol... nice math police.
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i done so much k my fucking
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special k all day
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There's already a thread for this kind of thing.
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Thanks tips.
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I feel ya. You forgot to mention that BATB 2 has also ended.
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the (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) with why people don't visit the berrics as much is because after the batb2 (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) people lost interest. Also the (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) with the new layout is lame.
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Sorry I didn't triple check it
I hope you can find it in your good hearts to forgive me
Maybe. Pretty sick of reading about the berrics, though ::)
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I heard Steve Berra invented the Berrics. Not confirmed though.
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In Berra's defense, I think he is putting more skate footage then he did when this all started. I just think the whole thing is finally getting old. They always say....once you peak, you can only go downhill from here.
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it didn't help that berra and koston went from focusing on skating to focusing on making money. at the end of it, the berrics is nothing but another fad and its dying out pretty fast. i know BATB is over but i don't really hear anybody talking about anything on there anymore. i'm sure they're onto the next big thing while us older guys are hooked on jersey shore. :P
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park skating is boring. and steve is a scientologist.
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pretty much sums it up right there
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I wasn't able to check the berrics at all over Thanksgiving break and I found out that I really don't miss it.
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3) YOUnited Nations; more like YOU-couldn't-give-a-rats-ass Nations
word wizard.
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great thread
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great thread
these types of replies always gives me a chuckle. internet sarcasm at its finest.
my personal favorite is when someone posts "tite thread"
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they just re-built the park and are at a point where all the footage from the old park has dried up, and they've yet to accumulate enough footage to start making videos from the new set up. give it a few weeks
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I spend a lot of sleepless nights thinking about the Berrics, too.
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can you imagine how much money they would make if they opened it up to the public for $20 dollars a session(2hrs)?
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I think they just need some new things. Take out the Buttery Ass Mondays and Weekends with Reda for sure. I actually like Donovan and even Reda but today's Mondays thing was so stupid and Wednesdays have been stale for a while. Maybe they just need to go to the drawing boards and just do something else or create a different type of show.
The skating part on the Berrics has been good. I remember back in the days, it was only like Lem, Koston and Guy having a Battle Commander for the longest time. Now there is tons of shit to look at as far as skating goes...and we still have yet to see like the Blueprint United Nations, Zoo York, and I am sure they have some other guys doing battle commanders. Just weave out the bullshit and keep that canteen shit under wraps and they will be good again.
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can you imagine how much money they would make if they opened it up to the public for $20 dollars a session(2hrs)?
No, to be more Hollywood it should be exclusive. It should have velvet ropes and bouncers. The bouncers would have to look at you and decide if you're worthy enough to pay $100 per 2 hour session. Maybe, if you're real lucky you can have Richard Greco get you in.
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the layout is so busy now. why would you possibly advertise, it's so cluttered. so they are screwing themselves for nothing. sponsors are going to drop like flys.
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the (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) with why people don't visit the berrics as much is because after the batb2 (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) people lost interest. Also the (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) with the new layout is lame.
So which word does the shirtless man represent? I missed that thread and I'm seeing a lot of his fab abs lately.
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ASSHOLE
WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU POST ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING THREAD ABOUT THE BERRICS WHEN WE HAVE A 40 PAGE THREAD ABOUT THEM? YOUR OPINION IS SHIT.
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The should get the Jersey Shore gang to do a United Nations
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The should get the Jersey Shore gang to do a United Nations
So great,
Situation saturdays with.....The Situation
TRICKapedia tuesdays with that bitch who got punched.
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it didn't help that berra and koston went from focusing on skating to focusing on making money. at the end of it, the berrics is nothing but another fad and its dying out pretty fast. i know BATB is over but i don't really hear anybody talking about anything on there anymore. i'm sure they're onto the next big thing while us older guys are hooked on jersey shore. :P
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
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what the fuck is jersey shore
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Rawb, where have you been the past two weeks?
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what the fuck is jersey shore
its the best god damn show to come out in the last month
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Rawb, where have you been the past two weeks?
apparently he's not aware of situation
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that's THE situation.
k
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actaully no: http://www.mtv.com/shows/jersey_shore/cast_member.jhtml?personalityId=13195
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sit u a tion with no spaces = situation
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I can't believe anyone doesn't know about Jersey Shore yet? I don't even own a TV and I absolutely hate MTV...but I've made a point of going to my girlfriend's every thursday just for this amazing show.
Also...haven't checked the berrics since batb2 ended and I don't miss it one bit.
Think the situation's situation will finally get him laid this week?
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situation
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I can't believe anyone doesn't know about Jersey Shore yet? I don't even own a TV and I absolutely hate MTV...but I've made a point of going to my girlfriend's every thursday just for this amazing show.
Also...haven't checked the berrics since batb2 ended and I don't miss it one bit.
Think the (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg)'s (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) will finally get him laid this week?
grandpa situation will not get to penetrate this week. i'm betting the episode starts with snookie whailing in the bathroom about her missing teeth. it will then cascade into jwoww dancing with rags for a shirt and me liking that very much. vinny will also not be in this weeks episode since he seems the most normal of them all, and lets face it, normal isn't why people watch the show.
i'm down with the idea of a jersey shore united nations. berra i know you read this, i know you're starstruck easily...so make it happen.
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the berrics are in a bit of a difficult situation it seems
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The Berrics was a fad, and they tried to stay fresh and current, they put the nail in the coffin with the unnited shops ad concept with teh false advertisment.
Plus, Reda is a fat fuck, who needs to grow up, and Donovan isn't funny or interesting on a skateboard.
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vinny fucking sucks. i bet he asks for a tall glass of milk at the bar.
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all those bitches have gotten their pussies so beat up shit drips blood from sores not periods (so much birth control + cocaine saturated their clit made the slut barren, career destined for porno never to reproduce only semen intake is for cake.)
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you blow my mind so much i want to show up in a sled and hop down your chimney.
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Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Also I want to type situation
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i suppose their armpits and legpits have not been penetrated yet
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snookie looks like she takes it in everything that pinches or folds. i'm sure the elbows, armpits and behind the knees have abd with her. vinny was only on once last episode when he walked out of the barber shop. i think the only time i've seen him is when he was running around telling everyone he got pink eye.
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don't look now, but i went to the berrics yesterday and background is "the berrics is my homepage" written over and over again in a child's handwriting.
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don't look now, but i went to the berrics yesterday and background is "the berrics is my homepage" written over and over again in a child's handwriting.
SHIT even little kidz haxordz that site what a bunch of n00biles
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Wait if you just write the situation it come up as a picture of him?
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situation
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Situation
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I bet Vinny is a total douche in person, he's like the skinny chick who hangs out with a bunch of fat chicks so she looks hot, but if she was ever around decent chicks she would never get laid.
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yes, it appears that that is the situation at hand
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after the numerous pictures of steve berra with dicks photoshopped on his face, and now the pictures of the half naked guido, i think this culd be the gayest thread on slap.
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the situation
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my favorite part of the berrics united situation is absurd paradox that skateshops in a difficult financial situation can just give berra a bunch of money and all their troubles will magically disappear.
situation
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not too be cynical or knock josh's intentions, but did anyone get the feeling berra requested him to come here, as a last ditch PR effort, ala jamie thomas?
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josh who?
situation?
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Kalis?
situation
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what with all the "situation" and chicago skate spots distractions, berra is off the hooks..
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not too be cynical or knock josh's intentions, but did anyone get the feeling berra requested him to come here, as a last ditch PR effort, ala jamie thomas?
I think Josh made it clear he came on here to defend Berra
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I came on to defend "the Berrics"........... but wasn't asked by them to defend them.
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I came on to defend "the Berrics"........... but wasn't asked by them to defend them.
respect, you did it without being a dick and hating on slap, thats what started to piss me off when Berra and Donovan started to say shit.
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god damn (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg)
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http://www.gaythugdating.com/
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I came on to defend "the Berrics"........... but wasn't asked by them to defend them.
cool, i was just wondering, no disrespect
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I came on to defend "the Berrics"........... but wasn't asked by them to defend them.
I respect that. you're a good man Kalis...
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http://www.gaythugdating.com/
lols
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i'm testing it.
"situation's critical, this shit ain't nothin nice"
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sick.
"situation's critical i think i'm about to die"
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sick.
"(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg)'s critical i think i'm about to die"
yes. sick. sick indeed. sick sick sick sick sick. fag
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sick.
"(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg)'s critical i think i'm about to die"
So you are making fun of his word usage, and call him a "fag" for it? Fucking jock.
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remember that spanky graphic that said:
"Gangster status of a dipset situation, What I do yo"
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Not sure if this was mentioned yet but DLX came up with another great fucking idea!
http://www.dlxsf.com/fall09ssc/
Berra should hang out with them so he could learn how to REAL help the shops and legit brands.
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i visited the berrics yesterday to try and find that advertisement of the switch flip in new york and i couldnt find it.it looked like there hadnt been really nothing new since batb. i didnt visit it at all during united.
the battle commanders are like the fucking best why dont they just do those every single week come on guys earn that paper !!!
take a shit on the industry.
fuck sakes ill flymyself down there and film my own battle commander and produce my own beat for it and edit it myself just put some shit out that is longer than 2 or 3 clips.
too often there are clips featuring some random guy, who unless you are a complete skate nerd who lives in cali, you arent going to know who the fuck it is, or what they are talking about.
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YOUnited nations finalists are up.
http://theberrics.com/dailyopspost.php?postid=1614
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that was sad
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sorry to bump this.
so, let me get this straight. this whole (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) first arose when steve from exit in philly had that huge blow-up with berra over the berrics unified thing. name games, insults, steve calling the unified program for what it is, etc. but today i check the berrics for the first time in a while and see a berrics unified for exit skateshop?
am i missing something? they kissed and made up?
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I wish I gave a fuck about anything Berrics related...
But I don't
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sorry to bump this.
so, let me get this straight. this whole (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) first arose when steve from exit in philly had that huge blow-up with berra over the berrics unified thing. name games, insults, steve calling the unified program for what it is, etc. but today i check the berrics for the first time in a while and see a berrics unified for exit skateshop?
am i missing something? they kissed and made up?
I was wondering the same thing. Was just on the Berrics and saw that. Not to mention Berra on his soapbox talking to all the shops that came out for Agenda. Can anyone shed some light on why Exit skateshop has a Berrics Unified. The lame thing is I watched it thinking they might address their little beef and it was as if nothing ever went down.
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sorry to bump this.
so, let me get this straight. this whole (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7845/mike0644.jpg) first arose when steve from exit in philly had that huge blow-up with berra over the berrics unified thing. name games, insults, steve calling the unified program for what it is, etc. but today i check the berrics for the first time in a while and see a berrics unified for exit skateshop?
am i missing something? they kissed and made up?
pretty much. had another conversation and i'm sure exit was given an offer they couldn't refuse.
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I guess you gotta do what you gotta do these days in this economy.
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that totally reminds me of how herbal life works.
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R KELLY SCIENTOLOGY BOYDEM
(http://www.dontwatchthat.tv/sites/default/files/users/admin/pwbc37_0.jpg) (http://www.dontwatchthat.tv/node/419)
PWBC hit Berrics with some "Real Talk"!
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That Koston First Try Fridays was actually pretty entertaining. Unlike some of the other shit they've put out lately.
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Koston ceased to be entertaining a while ago. His skateboard tricks are good, but his mouth is big and unfunny.
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Personally I don't give a shit what he does, dude has been around for so long and has been ripping the whole time. Would people be mad if Gonz made a few unfunny jokes and picked up some strange or kooky sponsors? I certainly hope not but who knows. Shape edit was good today by the way, best one yet.
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I'm not talking about kooky sponsors,
his mouth is big and unfunny.
It's his mouth I have a problem with.
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I understand, but I thought you meant he ceased to be entertaining in general... my mistake.
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Ish Coo'.
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the shape edit had a lot of footage that has already been used in various florida videos (cosmic vomit mostly).
another note: my friend koki is going to be bummed when if sees this edit, the line in there where the guy does a kickflip manny bonk on the stairs and then big heel down the set. koki did pretty much the exact same line at the same spot but has been sleeping on the footage for a long time. guess he waited a bit too long, huh? sucks.
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his mouth is big and unfunny.
and his arrogance.
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I'm not talking about kooky sponsors,
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his mouth is big and unfunny.
and his arrogance.
He's been around for 20years. In my eyes he's just over with pleasing people and least the people on message boards. The guy is legend and doesn't give a shit.
Nothing wrong with Koston nor his mouth.
Handle it bitches.
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Be around Koston a little bit. Always been a dick.
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R KELLY SCIENTOLOGY BOYDEM
(http://www.dontwatchthat.tv/sites/default/files/users/admin/pwbc37_0.jpg) (http://www.dontwatchthat.tv/node/419)
PWBC hit Berrics with some "Real Talk"!
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I'm not talking about kooky sponsors,
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his mouth is big and unfunny.
and his arrogance.
He's been around for 20years. In my eyes he's just over with pleasing people and least the people on message boards. The guy is legend and doesn't give a shit.
Nothing wrong with Koston nor his mouth.
Handle it bitches.
http://twitter.com/EricKoston
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I'm not talking about kooky sponsors,
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his mouth is big and unfunny.
and his arrogance.
He's been around for 20years. In my eyes he's just over with pleasing people and least the people on message boards. The guy is legend and doesn't give a shit.
Nothing wrong with Koston nor his mouth.
Handle it bitches.
http://twitter.com/EricKoston
He's like a 12 year old that found out it's cool to swear. For a guy so well off he's got a lot to complain about. Pathos Koston, pathos.
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I guess I have some selective reading issues... but yea, as with 90% of pros out there I would rather just watch them skate. Nobody really got to where they are from talking shit.
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That wild grinders shit on the berrics is FUCKING RIDICULOUS
(http://i48.tinypic.com/sfkk6d.png)
Nice trucks
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This is like a worse Rocket Power or something.
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i swear i haven't checked the berrics since batb2 and then i just so happen to look at the site and see some teeny bopper wild grinders bullshit to remind me why the berrics is still lame.
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is anybody else tired of all that gay fucking younited nations darth vader voice? like every other video i try to watch, there is a minute of vader gasping for his last breaths, and it takes them soooooooo long just to post those finalist names, as if the anticipation for the names actually matters. add it to the ever growing list of annoying berrics practices. just post friday: name. sat: name. and your done. fuck off with all that bull steve.
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Skateshop's please give berra money so he can keep keep creating an online store that will rival with ccs and eventually take more business from your shop. Also give Berra money so he can journey further in scientology. Being spiritual cost money son!!!!!
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Skateshop's please give berra money so he can keep keep creating an online store that will rival with ccs and eventually take more business from your shop. Also give Berra money so he can journey further in scientology. Being spiritual cost money son!!!!!
uhh
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i have nothing to bitch about about the berrics as of now. i havent had a computer in over a month now and i dont miss it one bit.
everything that sucks about berrics has been addressed 10 times over, its not going to suddenly have awesome video parts on the daily.
you guys need to give it a rest, just let this thing die in peace. i dont know if koston realizes it but when he said fuck your face pretty much everyone lost respect for him. i always considered him the tiger woods of skateboarding, crazy coincedence their highly respectable images were both shattered within seconds.
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i dont know if koston realizes it but when he said fuck your face pretty much everyone lost respect for him. i always considered him the tiger woods of skateboarding, crazy coincedence their highly respectable images were both shattered within seconds.
THIS
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i dont know if koston realizes it but when he said fuck your face pretty much everyone lost respect for him. i always considered him the tiger woods of skateboarding, crazy coincedence their highly respectable images were both shattered within seconds.
I was hyped on Tiger. He always seemed like such a pussy. Turns out he's gnar.
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i dont know if koston realizes it but when he said fuck your face pretty much everyone lost respect for him. i always considered him the tiger woods of skateboarding, crazy coincedence their highly respectable images were both shattered within seconds.
I was beyond excited to find out Tiger was a real human being that wanted to spread his seed amongst bitches of all shapes and colors. I can relate to this Tiger Woods.
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yeah and before everyone thouight koston was cool and now everyone just thinks he is hollywood dick complete opposites
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i dont know if koston realizes it but when he said fuck your face pretty much everyone lost respect for him. i always considered him the tiger woods of skateboarding, crazy coincedence their highly respectable images were both shattered within seconds.
This. Couldn't have put it better hahahaha
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just watched some of those younited nations montages. do they even check some of the footage? there's some shit with brophy and walker ryan in there. i don't think any of these kids are really hanging out with brophy in their skate 'crew'.
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just watched some of those younited nations montages. do they even check some of the footage? there's some shit with brophy and walker ryan in there. i don't think any of these kids are really hanging out with brophy in their skate 'crew'.
All of those edits are fucking bad. Today i watched Caliskatz and it was okay, 7/10. Everything else was a nice 0.
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New YOUnited Nations from Sweden is up...finally liked one of these things! such good skating
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i used to check out the berrics every fucking time.. i didnt miss any of them clips for months
now i stoped.. and my life just turned better.. way fuckin better
i mean.. its just some warehouse!
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i'm really fucking sick of the 'it sounds like darth vader but guess what it's not darth vader it's uncle sam with a gas mask'
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new TC younited is up...another good one...kids are fucking crazy these days
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i'm really fucking sick of the 'it sounds like darth vader but guess what it's not darth vader it's uncle sam with a gas mask'
that shit kills me. it goes on for like 25 seconds.
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i swear i haven't checked the berrics since batb2 and then i just so happen to look at the site and see some teeny bopper wild grinders bullshit to remind me why the berrics is still lame.
True dat!
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From crailtap:
A: There is actually nothing wrong with the whistle. It's' the wimpy skaters blowing into it. If you notice, when I blow, I blow that shit good! You can hear my whistle all over da block.—Steve Berra
hahaha
The only thing good from the site is batb, hoping batb 3 starts soon so more games of skate from pj ladd
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been checking it every week or so. and every week or so the geico caveman knocks on steve's office door, some weird ethnicity kid always answers, and steve is always on twitter while geico caveman asks him if he can leave the house past curfew.
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My buddy bought a couple Berrics t-shirts. I thought I had taught him better.
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berrics was a great place for many careers to die
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[edit] Jim emailed me and told me what's up...it makes sense now. funny how twitter can totally distort what you think is happening
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The ads before the videos are fucking stupid. It's cool that most of it's skate related but once the ad is over I'm not as hyped for the video.
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The ads before the videos are fucking stupid. It's cool that most of it's skate related but once the ad is over I'm not as hyped for the video.
Why the fuck did you bump this thread?
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so just been told that the berrikz has been up for 3 years now and berra still hasnt managed to put together a battle commander, even lizard king managed to do it and he doesnt give a fook bout the berrikz
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so just been told that the berrikz has been up for 3 years now and berra still hasnt managed to put together a battle commander, even lizard king managed to do it and he doesnt give a fook bout the berrikz
i know i was really looking forward to that berra footage
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Why the fuck did you bump this thread?
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