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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: gripittoripit on April 26, 2010, 11:25:16 AM
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Hmm
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Yup.
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caw!!!
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this thread is full of win
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Word on the street is that OH WOW FORGET WHAT I WAS SAYING
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They are good. Real good. The soft ones fall apart fast tho. Yellow medium with no washers. So nice!
Keeeeep
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thinkin of trying it out. which ones would you guys recommend if i like loose trucks? i skate indys now without doing anything to the kingpin nut.
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yellow in a set of indys with no washers? Yes please!!!
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What do people hate about Indy bushings? They seem okay to me after theyre broken in.
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for me its not that I hate Indy bushings its that I love Bones bushings!! Have you had a set?
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Love my set.
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thumbs up, im fine with indys though too.
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for me its not that I hate Indy bushings its that I love Bones bushings!! Have you had a set?
Negative. Never thought the bushings mattered much.
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I think the hard are better...when I had the medium in my trucks were super loose and if i tightened them to medium ish they broke.
the hard ones i dont have to tighten at all and my trucks are already medium tight
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I think the hard are better...when I had the medium in my trucks were super loose and if i tightened them to medium ish they broke.
the hard ones i dont have to tighten at all and my trucks are already medium tight
If they broke that's because you cranked them down way too much. I like them loose so I go with yellow.
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Bushings are not relevant to my intrests. They are just...there.
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for me its not that I hate Indy bushings its that I love Bones bushings!! Have you had a set?
Negative. Never thought the bushings mattered much.
Jimmy thinks that can mean one of two things. Either you're really good or you're really shitty.
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hahaha
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What do people hate about Indy bushings? They seem okay to me after theyre broken in.
You have to break them in! Bones are hot right out of the box.
Try em... you'll see what I'm talking about.
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I think the hard are better...when I had the medium in my trucks were super loose and if i tightened them to medium ish they broke.
the hard ones i dont have to tighten at all and my trucks are already medium tight
If they broke that's because you cranked them down way too much. I like them loose so I go with yellow.
Yellow is medium...and I really didn't crank them down that much. I left them completely loose to break in for a full month, and slightly tightened them up, and they popped.
The hards seem good they're not tight or anything and they aren't breaking since they're not tightened at all.
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stock bushings nigga
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those yellow ones are the truth
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Indy stock are fine. Breaking in trucks is not that hard for me.
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I bought the white (hard) ones and put em on my Indys, glorious.
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how are the yellow ones compared to stock indys? ill have to get a pair.
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Some techy-geek over at Bones is reading this and feeling REALLY good right now! This should be renamed the "Bones bushing appreciation thread".
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I got 149 Indys, I like to ride them more tight than loose and I've had the Bones bushings, the hard ones, for one session but I have to say they are pretty damn good. The boards feels snappier as the trucks return more quickly from turning. Though I have no idea how they will feel in long term but the first feel was that I'll always ride these things.
If the first session feels like you don't have to worry about shit, I think then you're on the something good.
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Just got my mediums and went riding on 'em last night. The difference is pretty remarkable. The trucks are a ton mo' snappy...different feel altogether than the stocks that came on my Indy 149's. To the people at Bones, you can send my check to 7130 Syc......endtransmission
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Im going to buy some next time I go to the shop. If Im not satisfied, Im coming back here and writing a lengthy post complaining about.
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bones is not the only game in town.
khiro and grind king make the same type of bushing.
anyway, i skate stock ones that come with indy, they're great as is.
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medium bones get very very soft and will break if you tighten them. get hard bones bushings if you like a medium feel. they're magic
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I'm for the blue ones, all the way! (super soft)
cause I'm down for all things dangerously loose
(http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/images/BUSH-BONES-B.jpg)
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also:
the next time you're paging through the newest skate magazine, take notice how many people in that magazine are using them, it's pretty nuts
but my magnifying glass is in the shop.
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In 25 years I've never thought to care much about my bushings. Always just used the Indy bushing until the trucks died. About a month ago I got on some Bones bushings and I'm kicking myself for not having done so sooner. They are soooooo much better.
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medium bones get very very soft and will break if you tighten them. get hard bones bushings if you like a medium feel. they're magic
That's exactly what I've got goin on.
I got a set of Theeves and they came with bones bushings.
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I've never had a problem with indy stock bushings or breaking em in. I do notice that they do tend to chip and crumble very easily though. I might just have to give the bones bushings a try one of these days...
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;D just got me some yellow ones, they are super responsive. love em
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I got 149 Indys, I like to ride them more tight than loose and I've had the Bones bushings, the hard ones, for one session but I have to say they are pretty damn good. The boards feels snappier as the trucks return more quickly from turning. Though I have no idea how they will feel in long term but the first feel was that I'll always ride these things.
If the first session feels like you don't have to worry about shit, I think then you're on the something good.
Fuck yea. Been skating almost everyday and they're still going. Same feel as the first day. Fresh.
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Just put in some yellow mediums in my indys a couple of days agp. Been skating them with both washers in to give them that perfect medium feel. Just hope they dont break. For you who had yours break, when did it happen? like right away or after some days?
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wow bringin it back. after a bit they broke but ive been on the hards and had no probs
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I'm for the blue ones, all the way! (super soft)
cause I'm down for all things dangerously loose
(http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/images/BUSH-BONES-B.jpg)
i love the blue ones. in indy 139 standard. its like your riding giggly lose trucks. but they snap right back in place. best equation for really lose, but not wobbly..
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I'm for the blue ones, all the way! (super soft)
cause I'm down for all things dangerously loose
(http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/images/BUSH-BONES-B.jpg)
i love the blue ones. in indy 139 standard. its like your riding giggly lose trucks. but they snap right back in place. best equation for really lose, but not wobbly..
I had a couple of sets of these for that reason, but the hard plastic bit cracked on both trucks, on both sets of bushings ???
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khiro and grind king make the same type of bushing.
I like Bones, but Khiro has an insane amount of choice... I have a set of Indys that I mixed some Softs (lower) and Med-Softs (top) and they feel awesome. I like the built in-washer bushings and the Bitch bushings they make, too.
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I got 149 Indys, I like to ride them more tight than loose and I've had the Bones bushings, the hard ones, for one session but I have to say they are pretty damn good. The boards feels snappier as the trucks return more quickly from turning. Though I have no idea how they will feel in long term but the first feel was that I'll always ride these things.
If the first session feels like you don't have to worry about shit, I think then you're on the something good.
Mine are now gone. The pushings blew on to the bottom ring. I'm definitely going to get another pair of these right away. They didn't last forever but there was no sketchyness with these, not ever for one session.
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been riding the mediums for a while now. my first pair did get soft, but only after like 5 months, so I'm still backing em.
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been skating my mediums for a long time and they are fine, great bushings. bought another set for back up.
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My right foot is fucked. Fucking rolled ankle, ingrown big toe, and today i got a fucking blister on the bottom of toe #2. FUCK this foot.
i ride medium bones bushings though.
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I've never had a problem with indy stock bushings or breaking em in. I do notice that they do tend to chip and crumble very easily though. I might just have to give the bones bushings a try one of these days...
Indy bushings are great after they're broken in. The way I see it, bones mediums feel how I want all bushings to feel, but they come without a break-in period. They make new trucks feel as if you've been riding them forever. Since I don't get any sense of accomplishment of breaking in stock ones, if they keep making them, I'll keep buying them.
also:
the next time you're paging through the newest skate magazine, take notice how many people in that magazine are using them, it's pretty nuts
This
edit: Here's one example: Rick Howard and his Indys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0aeqUyoygE
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This
edit: Here's one example: Rick Howard and his Indys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0aeqUyoygE
That's one convincing Lakai comercial
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fuck tensor trucks..wait am i doing it right? sigh i hate those things
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i really don't get how people ride the yellow ones without a bottom bushing, shit is so wobbly, hard is the wa to go, has anyone seen the black bones bushings, shit's look fuckin weird.
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i bought some on a whim and was going to put them in but the silver cap thing wouldn't fit. then i read that you don't need it. but it just looks too weird to me not having it on there so i couldn't deal.
maybe i should try them
how much can it really matter though?
i've been drinking
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i bought some on a whim and was going to put them in but the silver cap thing wouldn't fit. then i read that you don't need it. but it just looks too weird to me not having it on there so i couldn't deal.
maybe i should try them
how much can it really matter though?
i've been drinking
you're not supposed to use the silver cap. ... i think?
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i bought some on a whim and was going to put them in but the silver cap thing wouldn't fit. then i read that you don't need it. but it just looks too weird to me not having it on there so i couldn't deal.
maybe i should try them
how much can it really matter though?
i've been drinking
you're not supposed to use the silver cap. ... i think?
you think correctly.
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i bought some on a whim and was going to put them in but the silver cap thing wouldn't fit. then i read that you don't need it. but it just looks too weird to me not having it on there so i couldn't deal.
maybe i should try them
how much can it really matter though?
i've been drinking
you're not supposed to use the silver cap. ... i think?
yeah, i figured that out after reading about them. it just looks too weird to me without the cap. i couldn't deal. i'll probably try them though to see what they're like
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i bought some on a whim and was going to put them in but the silver cap thing wouldn't fit. then i read that you don't need it. but it just looks too weird to me not having it on there so i couldn't deal.
maybe i should try them
how much can it really matter though?
i've been drinking
you're not supposed to use the silver cap. ... i think?
yeah, i figured that out after reading about them. it just looks too weird to me without the cap. i couldn't deal. i'll probably try them though to see what they're like
I thought the same thing, tried them without the cap, and now cant imagine how i got by without them. I'm a heavy bastard and I seem to destroy the stock indy bushings, but the bones have held up well and always skate perfectly.
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I have hard bones on my cruiser, and if I've been commuting to work with it for a few days it's always a bit of a shock when I step on my regular board with wobbly Aces. I should probably get some yellow ones for the Aces, the stock bushings are ok but they're falling to pieces.
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Im skating the yellow mediums now with the bottom washer on. Feels perfect right now.
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been riding the same set of yellow ones for close to 2 years now... no problems at all and they feel perfect.
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mine didn't last very long until i started catching wheelbite like a motherfucker.
then i said forget all this, im just gunna get thunder 147 hi's and be set for life.
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sorry to bring back an old thread, but I'm just about to treat myself and buy a brand new setup, its been to long!
I ride stock 139's loose/how they come tightened, going to buy some more 139's and thinking of going for the medium bones bushings? I'm fairly heavy say about 200 pounds, would I be better off going with the hard bushings?
Help a brother out!
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depends on how tight you ride your trucks.
Mediums are probably what you need.
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depends on how tight you ride your trucks.
Mediums are probably what you need.
Well, I ride them loose but not super loose, enough to carve etc to ride out most landings, but not to loose. I might just buy both and see which works out better? ha.
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Sounds like mediums would be a bit loose then, but i dont know how hard the hard ones actually are. Im riding my mediums with both washer. Anyone know if this is the equivalent of riding hard ones without both washers?
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seeing as you're 200 lbs, i'd probably get the hard ones just to be safe.
you can always loosen the nut and ride hard bushings loose.
but you can't make soft bushing any harder by tightening the nut. you just end up busting the bushing.
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Bone Bushings are the Crack of all bushings.
Indy's + Bones Bushings = crack Babies!
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I'm riding mediums with the kingpin nut hanging half off, once the cold weather kicks in and they contract I'm fucked.
It's time to man up try those gooshy soft blues.
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
Ventures are repelling the idea of turning. Just force the bushings in, until they accept it.
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You know nothing about skateboarding equipment, because you can't skateboard.
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
Because if you look at the actual sizes of the bushings they are out of proportion with bones.The bottom stock busing is way bigger and the top is smaller.Even if you do get them in your truck will be sitting angled down and will blow the bushings out quickly.Bones are only built for a few trucks,indys seem to be the best fitting.Thunders kind of fit but usually have the same problem as venture.
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You know nothing about skateboarding equipment, because you can't skateboard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you sound like such a melvin!
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
Yea my bottom one messed up when i put them on some thunders. The medium ones make indy's tight, but on thunders they're on the loose side of medium.
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the thunder(clear-ish colored) stock bushings are actually really good.
as well as the indy(yellow/orange) and the venture(white) stock bushings.
a lot of people swear by bones bushings but they seem to be more of a pain to deal with than anything else. not to mention that they're kind of expensive for what they are.
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the thunder(clear-ish colored) stock bushings are actually really good.
This.
If you skate thunders you don't need bones bushings.
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the thunder(clear-ish colored) stock bushings are actually really good.
as well as the indy(yellow/orange) and the venture(white) stock bushings.
a lot of people swear by bones bushings but they seem to be more of a pain to deal with than anything else. not to mention that they're kind of expensive for what they are.
yeah its pretty expensive for just bushings (around $10) but i've used the same pair for two sets of trucks..so there worth every penny in my opinion
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Just went out skating on my Indys with yellow bones after last time when I skated Thunders with stock bushings. The difference is amazing. The way they re center themselves makes skating so much better.
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thunders are workin fine for me
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
for some reason, bones fit on venture 5.0 lows but not 5.2 lows (?)
didn't have a problem putting them in 147 his
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bones fit in ACE highs (22, 33, 44, 55, etc) perfectly.
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I got my kid on Indy 129's with the soft bones. And I'm on the Indy 139's with the mediums. His board turns silent and mine is squeking and squaking. We both ride loose. Do they quiet down with time or are the soft ones just like that? Would WD40 help?
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wd40 will mess up your bushing in the long run.
my bones sqeek. but i can hear then if im actually skating. should be a non issue.
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bushings no washers?????
yall crazy.
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Bottom washer on or off? Bones say you don't need it, whats the verdict? Any advantages to taking it off?
I've got it on at the moment but not skated with them yet.
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just got some yellows to put in ventures, i want them to be lose but not too lose (hense not getting blues)
so in order to do this should i just not use washers? on either top or bottom
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bushings no washers?????
yall crazy.
yup, just like my men lance
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/vincentdugas02/lancesettingup.jpg)
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I got my kid on Indy 129's with the soft bones. And I'm on the Indy 139's with the mediums. His board turns silent and mine is squeking and squaking. We both ride loose. Do they quiet down with time or are the soft ones just like that? Would WD40 help?
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Surprisingly most truck noise comes from your pivot cups.Put a drop of oil in there and see how they feel.Im not saying they don't make noise but usually the plastic squeaks more.
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Bottom washer on or off? Bones say you don't need it, whats the verdict? Any advantages to taking it off?
I've got it on at the moment but not skated with them yet.
the only difference is that your trucks become slightly tighter. Also the bushings get a little fucked on the sides but it dont matter.
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im using ventures, should i just not use spacers top or bottom?
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I had the soft ones, but they didn`t last long.I think after a little more than one month they fell apart.
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i had trouble fitting the medium ones on my venture highs. i had to only use the bottom bones bushing and the stock venture bushing for the top.
Ventures are repelling the idea of turning. Just force the bushings in, until they accept it.
i did that! but then my kingpin nut stuck out way over the hanger, so i need a taller king pin from a high set of trucks, like indys
..the thing i've noticed with low and even some high trucks (like ventures) is that they just use the same kingpins for lows and highs. i've used indy highs before and ive had no trouble fitting them in.
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a little while ago i bought those yellow bushings. They skate nice but the lower bushing, at the part where the hard yellow thing and the white bushing is, is cracked. the white hangs over the yellow and you can hardly see the yellow. Now It's super loose al the time. sucks
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a little while ago i bought those yellow bushings. They skate nice but the lower bushing, at the part where the hard yellow thing and the white bushing is, is cracked. the white hangs over the yellow and you can hardly see the yellow. Now It's super loose al the time. sucks
that happened to both of mine.
wonder if you could send them back, because fuck knows i'm not paying another 20 bucks for bushings again this year.
expensive stuff indeed. just replaced the lower one with an old indy bushing. feels way better.
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just tried putting some mediums in my new thunder trucks and theyre really slippy, are there different sizes? or i sit just different softness?
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just tried putting some mediums in my new thunder trucks and theyre really slippy, are there different sizes? or i sit just different softness?
your trucks are slippy?
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just tried putting some mediums in my new thunder trucks and theyre really slippy, are there different sizes? or i sit just different softness?
you should definitely sit just different softness, thats always a good option. posting sober is a good thing too
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bushings no washers?????
yall crazy.
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/vincentdugas02/lancesettingup.jpg)
Anyone else notice he's running the mediums in back and the softs up front?
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i might bite the bullet and make the switch from indy stock to bones.
this cold weather is preventing me from turning properly and its killing my good time.
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yea they're overrated
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bushings no washers?????
yall crazy.
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/vincentdugas02/lancesettingup.jpg)
you must have a keen eye. i can't see his front bushings due to the angle of the photo.
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yea they're overrated
true
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got some Bones mediums. damn they feel more like softs. I think they are softer than the Soft Lucky Kegs that I have on my other trucks (great bushings, by the way).
gonna be turning like crazy on these Aces i'm riding.
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khiros are where its at.
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got some Bones mediums. damn they feel more like softs. I think they are softer than the Soft Lucky Kegs that I have on my other trucks (great bushings, by the way).
gonna be turning like crazy on these Aces i'm riding.
as soon as you put those on your board you gotta start watching out for wheel bite alot more, especially if you ride low trucks
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update:? emailed bones about how mine broke and imploded into themselves, and got an email back today
they will replace them without me even sending them in.? FUCK YEAH
Fuck yeah, that's good to know.
I recently made the switch after buying brand new indy's and taking the stock bushings out right away. Don't think i'll go back.
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Bought a new pair of thunders, switched to high this time around. But they are always stiff, I have to tighten the bolt by hand for them to be as soft as I'd like them to be. Would a pair of Bones mediums solve this issue? Will I be able to tighten them and have loose trucks at the same time? Bugging the shit out of me
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Bought a new pair of thunders, switched to high this time around. But they are always stiff, I have to tighten the bolt by hand for them to be as soft as I'd like them to be. Would a pair of Bones mediums solve this issue? Will I be able to tighten them and have loose trucks at the same time? Bugging the shit out of me
Yes Bones mediums or Lucky Keg softs would do the trick (I have Keg softs on a set of thunder hi 149s).
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khiros are where its at.
i know they make the same type of bushing but is it any better?
grind king also makes that type of bushing, i wonder if they're any good?
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has anyone ever tries these venom bushings, they look like theyd turn really well but im fine with bones until someone tells me if these are any good...
http://venombushings.com/bushings_eliminators.html (http://venombushings.com/bushings_eliminators.html)
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i know they make the same type of bushing but is it any better?
grind king also makes that type of bushing, i wonder if they're any good?
They khiro tops are metal so you can run without a washer, unlike bones where they will deteriorate faster. Also khiro's quality is just as good with more duros to choose from.
(https://socalskateshop.com/images/products/thumb_3597_thumb_yellowinsert.jpg)
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Still looks like the bottom bushing will muffin top over the washer thing. you're better off just having regular bushings. There's nothing wrong with having washers.
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Has anyone's ever split like this?
My front truck has been squeaking loudly and popping slightly out of place whenever I turn. So I took it off to have a look and it has separated from the yellow core and split almost right around where it presses into the hanger.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/m7eyqu.png)
I skate them with the nut flush with the top of the kingpin so they weren't too tight, and I took the other truck apart to check the rest of the bushing and they were all fine.
Is it worth e-mailing them?
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I would. Ten dollar bushing better last me a long ass time.
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Just filled out the customer service contact thing on their site.
Hopefully I can get a replacement.
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Within 10 minuets they e-mailed me back offering to send me a replacement set.
Fuck yeah Bones.
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The material looks pretty thin over that hard plastic bit...I could see them just doing that again. Looks like a poorly thought out design.
Personally, I'll just stick with regular bushings.
Indy aftermarket/replacement bushings have been really good to me so far. I recently switched from the 92A mediums to the hard 94A ones. Since I'm not a little scrawny kid and like my trucks to turn (but not be sloppy loose) they work great from me.
I don't like how Bones jumps from 91A on the mediums to 96A on the hard bushings.
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yea i just bought some indy aftermarket bushings, the orange ones, havent tried the yet though.
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The aftermarket Indy bushing are actually really good. They take a while to break in unlike Bones, but they still perform well.
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just wanted to say that a while ago i didnt care about bushings and thought they made little difference to my board feel, after getting bones... boy was i wrong, i am not never gonna own a board without them, they just make skating so much more fun and sketchy
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I just got the all black hard ones....so fucking good exactly the way a truck should feel
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I have hard ones and as loose as i can. Sometimes im afraid that they fell off. I maybe should take the top washer off or buy medium ones but the price is salty.
They feel great, they turn when i want them to turn. Also i've tried my friends board, he has stock bushings on indy10's (i have em too and we both ride lows) and i noticed that my ones turn better. After these there ain't no way back to stocks. :/
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Yellow mediums fo life! Theeve and half of the skate industry swear by them! They're pretty legit
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I bought a pair of the mediums for my indys and never looked back.
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I've been riding the stock orange Indy bushings for a while too and finally made the switch to medium Bones bushings last week...I'm not going back.
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What would y'all suggest for a boy who rides as loose as possible, I've been rolling on venture stocks (slightly trimmed down) and predictably they've fallen apart. Would Yellows be my best bet or do I want to GO HARD? Any views would be appreciated.
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What would y'all suggest for a boy who rides as loose as possible, I've been rolling on venture stocks (slightly trimmed down) and predictably they've fallen apart. Would Yellows be my best bet or do I want to GO HARD? Any views would be appreciated.
If you like your trucks super loose get the softs, my man.
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i had some bones bushing lying around so i took the plunge and threw them on.
theres no real benefit other than being able to take out the bottom bushing caps so i can ride a little looser without fear of the kingpin nut falling off.
so far so good but after 2 sessions, i can already see the plastic insert starting to stress and change shape. i don't think i'll be forking over another $10 any time soon.
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Emailed bones on Tuesday about blown out bottom bushings, and on Thursday they told me to respond back with my address for a replacement. Just got home today and got these in the mail.
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/uclaker/be85ea49.jpg)
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/uclaker/7d8e1b4f.jpg)
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Were the blown out ones defective? Or is that how they all are?
That's great that they'll send you a replacement, but it would be a lot better if the product just did what it was supposed to in the first place.
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It does for many of us,
I skate alot. Things wear out. I dont have unrealistic expectation of any skateboard related product.
I read a lot of what you post here and you seem let down by most everything skateboard product related lately.
Maybe it's just you and not the gear.
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I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. I'm not dissatisfied with everything I use either. The wheels, trucks, bushings and bearings I'm currently using are fine. My current deck is okay too. The shape isn't my favorite but it's holding up alright.
Of course things wear out. Back when I was a teenager and skated for several hours each day, I might ride a deck for about month. But for that month the deck did what it was supposed to. Never cracked any deck on the third day skating it, on flatground for example. But I have done that with boards today. I was heavier back then too. I don't think it's just me, and I'm not the only complaining that the quality of certain products has gone down.
I have no personal beef with Bones bushings...never tried them and have no real plans to. The plastic insert just seems like a bad design.
Pretty satisfied with the Indy replacement bushings I'm using...they do what they're supposed to, no blowouts yet - fingers crossed.
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Just got my replacements in the mail.
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I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. I'm not dissatisfied with everything I use either. The wheels, trucks, bushings and bearings I'm currently using are fine. My current deck is okay too. The shape isn't my favorite but it's holding up alright.
Of course things wear out. Back when I was a teenager and skated for several hours each day, I might ride a deck for about month. But for that month the deck did what it was supposed to. Never cracked any deck on the third day skating it, on flatground for example. But I have done that with boards today. I was heavier back then too. I don't think it's just me, and I'm not the only complaining that the quality of certain products has gone down.
I have no personal beef with Bones bushings...never tried them and have no real plans to. The plastic insert just seems like a bad design.
Pretty satisfied with the Indy replacement bushings I'm using...they do what they're supposed to, no blowouts yet - fingers crossed.
Gotta agree on that deck opinion. When I was younger, I was heavier and skated stairs more than anything else. Never really broke boards prematurely. Now I'm about 20lbs lighter, and much better at skateboarding than when I was younger; yet I've snapped several boards recently on flat ground tricks. I just think because of the huge rise in skateboarders since I started skating, products have severely decreased in quality to keep up with the demand, especially decks. But that's just me.
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I just put them in Venture highs and im never changing back.
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I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. I'm not dissatisfied with everything I use either. The wheels, trucks, bushings and bearings I'm currently using are fine. My current deck is okay too. The shape isn't my favorite but it's holding up alright.
Of course things wear out. Back when I was a teenager and skated for several hours each day, I might ride a deck for about month. But for that month the deck did what it was supposed to. Never cracked any deck on the third day skating it, on flatground for example. But I have done that with boards today. I was heavier back then too. I don't think it's just me, and I'm not the only complaining that the quality of certain products has gone down.
I have no personal beef with Bones bushings...never tried them and have no real plans to. The plastic insert just seems like a bad design.
Pretty satisfied with the Indy replacement bushings I'm using...they do what they're supposed to, no blowouts yet - fingers crossed.
Gotta agree on that deck opinion. When I was younger, I was heavier and skated stairs more than anything else. Never really broke boards prematurely. Now I'm about 20lbs lighter, and much better at skateboarding than when I was younger; yet I've snapped several boards recently on flat ground tricks. I just think because of the huge rise in skateboarders since I started skating, products have severely decreased in quality to keep up with the demand, especially decks. But that's just me.
I don't think breaking boards means that the quality is always less. A few things to remember.
1.They build boards stiffer now, meaning less give,less flex.They use harder epoxy's and add other elements to increase a boards stiffness. If you land wrong, a stiff board will crack everytime.
2. You aren't as flexible as you once were. Meaning when you were younger you absorbed the impact. Most people aren't as flexible in their 30s as they were in there teens. Bending those knees and hips helps boards not crack first day
3.Progression means perfecting techniques, which means breaking boards because you're trying new stuff.It's cool to hear guys who are in better shape and progress, but things weren't always better back when.
I've been skating for over 20 years, broken a shit load of boards and I'm a big guy. I'm sure some companies quality levels have dropped but don't lump every manufacturer into this generalization. If you are having issues, choose different gear.Plenty of people make good stuff. When I skate I am surprised things don't break, so I always expect it. Just A thought.
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I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. I'm not dissatisfied with everything I use either. The wheels, trucks, bushings and bearings I'm currently using are fine. My current deck is okay too. The shape isn't my favorite but it's holding up alright.
Of course things wear out. Back when I was a teenager and skated for several hours each day, I might ride a deck for about month. But for that month the deck did what it was supposed to. Never cracked any deck on the third day skating it, on flatground for example. But I have done that with boards today. I was heavier back then too. I don't think it's just me, and I'm not the only complaining that the quality of certain products has gone down.
I have no personal beef with Bones bushings...never tried them and have no real plans to. The plastic insert just seems like a bad design.
Pretty satisfied with the Indy replacement bushings I'm using...they do what they're supposed to, no blowouts yet - fingers crossed.
Gotta agree on that deck opinion. When I was younger, I was heavier and skated stairs more than anything else. Never really broke boards prematurely. Now I'm about 20lbs lighter, and much better at skateboarding than when I was younger; yet I've snapped several boards recently on flat ground tricks. I just think because of the huge rise in skateboarders since I started skating, products have severely decreased in quality to keep up with the demand, especially decks. But that's just me.
1.They build boards stiffer now, meaning less give,less flex.They use harder epoxy's and add other elements to increase a boards stiffness. If you land wrong, a stiff board will crack everytime.
2. You aren't as flexible as you once were. Meaning when you were younger you absorbed the impact. Most people aren't as flexible in their 30s as they were in there teens. Bending those knees and hips helps boards not crack first day
3.Progression means perfecting techniques, which means breaking boards because you're trying new stuff.It's cool to hear guys who are in better shape and progress, but things weren't always better back when.
I've been skating for over 20 years, broken a shit load of boards and I'm a big guy. I'm sure some companies quality levels have dropped but don't lump every manufacturer into this generalization. If you are having issues, choose different gear.Plenty of people make good stuff. When I skate I am surprised things don't break, so I always expect it. Just A thought.
I know you work at a skate shop as well. And my point is mainly directed to Watson Laminates. I remember Toy Machine/Foundation boards being brick shithouses pre-2004ish. The past few I've set up have just been super spongey and soft, and 2 of the last 8 boards broke on flatground flip tricks. I just feel like their boards specifically have gone WAY downhill. I'm not sure if you're seeing it to, but even customers I sell Tum Yeto boards to come back with snapped decks after a few days.
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I think thats why they started using bareback/generator. They make it sound like not all boards will be done there but all of the new ones we have gotten are. Honestly any toy boards I've ever skated felt flimsy but I am a beast. The only board I've skated in the last few years that felt rock solid was a coda board. They use south central right? Tail was a little flatter than I'm used to but it was a great board.
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I have skated for 13 years and just tried bones bushings last year on my Indys and they have been awesome for me. Im still on the same set I started with too, no blow outs or anything. Which used to happen to every set of Indy and Thunder bushings I have ever had.
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I think thats why they started using bareback/generator. They make it sound like not all boards will be done there but all of the new ones we have gotten are. Honestly any toy boards I've ever skated felt flimsy but I am a beast. The only board I've skated in the last few years that felt rock solid was a coda board. They use south central right? Tail was a little flatter than I'm used to but it was a great board.
So Tum Yeto is using Bareback/Generator now? The only reason I continue to skate Toy/Foundation boards is the fact that the new "Vice Mold" shape seems to be a bit better. They actually added a good amount of concave and the boards have a nice big symmetrical band-aid shape. But now that you mention this, maybe this is one of their new Bareback/Generator boards. If so, I hope the switch every shape over to this wood/concave/mold.
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Something did change with Toy boards for sure. My friend had some purple one that seem extra flat, had a weird shaped nose and tail, that both seemed too small for the width of the board. It also chipped really easy too. Then last week he got a Trapasso board, the dude with the drum sticks one, and it is a totally different shape. Big nose and good concave. It's like it's from a totally different company.
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Spare, I get what you're saying about not being as flexible as before. That's part of the reason I've decided to move to a wider deck and a longer wheelbase. Since I've still slowly re-learning how to skate again (it's been ~2 months after a decade+ layoff) I don't feel like I'm really pushing the boards I've ridden to their limits at all. And yeah, I can see how harder glues and such will make a board stiffer and easier to break, but I can't afford to buy a new deck every week.
I don't know who pressed DLX decks in say, 1996 or how the process was different compared to now, but I definitely don't like the boards they are producing now (by Bareback). The shapes are okay, but the decks don't hold up at all.
I just got a Deckcrafters 3 Fish and the board feels solid as a rock. I was hoping for a deeper concave but it's fine. I'll see how it holds up.
Still searching for that perfect board...
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Just got my replacements in the mail.
damn! they send you two sets?! how long did it take to get them? i sent a pic of mine today, the lady said she would replace them.
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http://www.dlxsf.com/dlxsfmb/read.php?1,461289 (http://www.dlxsf.com/dlxsfmb/read.php?1,461289)
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Just got my replacements in the mail.
damn! they send you two sets?! how long did it take to get them? i sent a pic of mine today, the lady said she would replace them.
It took mine about a week, but I live in Kentucky.
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I have been skating the new set I put in my Venture Hi's for about three or four weeks. Yesterday I noticed the front bottom bushing has squashed out and pushed down covering the yellow plastic and the top bushing on the back truck had done the same. I was skating them as loose as possible aswell. tbh I expected it to happen when I first put them on.
I don't think I cba asking for another replacement. I'm gonna put in my spare white thunder bushings.
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I have been skating the new set I put in my Venture Hi's for about three or four weeks. Yesterday I noticed the front bottom bushing has squashed out and pushed down covering the yellow plastic and the top bushing on the back truck had done the same. I was skating them as loose as possible aswell. tbh I expected it to happen when I first put them on.
I don't think I cba asking for another replacement. I'm gonna put in my spare white thunder bushings.
ive got the same problem atm, which really just means my trucks feel looser than ever but i did prefer them how they were before, anyone know if they do replacements in the UK?
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I have been skating the new set I put in my Venture Hi's for about three or four weeks. Yesterday I noticed the front bottom bushing has squashed out and pushed down covering the yellow plastic and the top bushing on the back truck had done the same. I was skating them as loose as possible aswell. tbh I expected it to happen when I first put them on.
I don't think I cba asking for another replacement. I'm gonna put in my spare white thunder bushings.
This happened to me a few weeks ago and they sent me a replacement set. I've been skating bones hardcore's for almost 10 years now and I'd never had that happen before.
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Don't buy these. The bottom Bones Mediums on both trucks are blown out after only a few weeks. I had two other sets that lasted for years. They must have some recent manufacturing issues.
I'd send them back, but they're probably the same shit and I'd rather not change them out again and re-chase my kingpins. Bushings should at least last for the life of the truck.
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I have been skating the new set I put in my Venture Hi's for about three or four weeks. Yesterday I noticed the front bottom bushing has squashed out and pushed down covering the yellow plastic and the top bushing on the back truck had done the same. I was skating them as loose as possible aswell. tbh I expected it to happen when I first put them on.
I don't think I cba asking for another replacement. I'm gonna put in my spare white thunder bushings.
ive got the same problem atm, which really just means my trucks feel looser than ever but i did prefer them how they were before, anyone know if they do replacements in the UK?
Mine have completely bust too, they were softs though so i kind of saw it coming... Ifff they do replacements in the UK maybe I'll get some hard ones and cut them down so I can skate them loose.
Hell I dunno, they actually still skate pretty good but they do look like they've prolapsed.
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I have been skating the new set I put in my Venture Hi's for about three or four weeks. Yesterday I noticed the front bottom bushing has squashed out and pushed down covering the yellow plastic and the top bushing on the back truck had done the same. I was skating them as loose as possible aswell. tbh I expected it to happen when I first put them on.
I don't think I cba asking for another replacement. I'm gonna put in my spare white thunder bushings.
ive got the same problem atm, which really just means my trucks feel looser than ever but i did prefer them how they were before, anyone know if they do replacements in the UK?
Mine have completely bust too, they were softs though so i kind of saw it coming... Ifff they do replacements in the UK maybe I'll get some hard ones and cut them down so I can skate them loose.
Hell I dunno, they actually still skate pretty good but they do look like they've prolapsed.
haha yeah they do look like they've prolapsed.
I'm in the UK. I messaged Bones on the email address from their site and they sent the replacements to me from their UK distro (Shiner)
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How is everyone getting replacements just like that? I emailed Bones with the same problem and they're telling me that I can send them in if I want, and they will determine if they're defective. I'm not going to go through all that effort for bushings since I would have to buy some bushings anyways if I mailed them in. It's just that reading other people's experiences on here I thought they would reply differently haha.
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How is everyone getting replacements just like that? I emailed Bones with the same problem and they're telling me that I can send them in if I want, and they will determine if they're defective. I'm not going to go through all that effort for bushings since I would have to buy some bushings anyways if I mailed them in. It's just that reading other people's experiences on here I thought they would reply differently haha.
because any asshole can rifle off an email claiming their bushings are fucked up trying to score free bushings off them.
and really, why should they "go through all that effort for bushings", when you're too lazy to do the same?
you can't expect someone to do something you yourself wouldn't do.
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Not bones
but has anybody tried these?
http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm (http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm)
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Not bones
but has anybody tried these?
http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm (http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm)
my friend has the medium-hard yellows (not the gold tops, just the regular silver ones. I assume they're the same.) They turn pretty well, a little stiffer than bones mediums. He seems to like them, and the fact that you don't need a top or a bottom washer is pretty nice.
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i sent them a photo of mine. so they had some kind of proof.
not to say they won't believe you but anybody can steal pic and email it.
i think thats why they're asking dudes to mail them in now?, too many dudes tried to play them.
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Not bones
but has anybody tried these?
http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm (http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm)
i believe khiro came out with the washerless bushing first but they're a little more expensive than the bones because of the metal inserts but theres less of a chance of them blowing out like the plastic bones ones.
i'm running the bones mediums right now and i'm just using the bottom washer on my indys. what sucks is i have the kingpin nut just tight enough so it won't fall off. if can toss both washers, i know i can ride a little looser which is definitely a plus.
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How is everyone getting replacements just like that? I emailed Bones with the same problem and they're telling me that I can send them in if I want, and they will determine if they're defective. I'm not going to go through all that effort for bushings since I would have to buy some bushings anyways if I mailed them in. It's just that reading other people's experiences on here I thought they would reply differently haha.
I had to send my defective one in as well. It wasn't a hassle. it took me all of 5 minutes and 2 stamps. Suck it up and send them in, or suck it up and buy new ones. It's your choice. I had new one's in less than a week btw.
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Not bones
but has anybody tried these?
http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm (http://www.khiroskateboardproducts.com/GoldInsertBushings.htm)
i believe khiro came out with the washerless bushing first but they're a little more expensive than the bones because of the metal inserts but theres less of a chance of them blowing out like the plastic bones ones.
i'm running the bones mediums right now and i'm just using the bottom washer on my indys. what sucks is i have the kingpin nut just tight enough so it won't fall off. if can toss both washers, i know i can ride a little looser which is definitely a plus.
I'd stay away from any integrated washing design. The Khiro metal washer has a shaft in the middle that digs into and tears apart the bushing.
The whole idea behind built-in washers, and bottom cone bushings in general, was that conventional bushings tended to squish out on sharp turns. The bonded washer keeps the bushing from deforming under load (while cone bushings push into itself and prevents outward force). All you really need to do is cut a donut from griptape and stick it to the bottom washer to prevent this.
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Ok SLAP, I just picked up a set of yellow bones for my indy's. The question is should I have the bottom washer on or off?
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Ok SLAP, I just picked up a set of yellow bones for my indy's. The question is should I have the bottom washer on or off?
Bottom washer=off
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Ok SLAP, I just picked up a set of yellow bones for my indy's. The question is should I have the bottom washer on or off?
Bottom washer=off
depends on how loose you ride. without a bottom washer the angle that the hanger sits at changes which changes the turning geometry of the truck. i ride bottom washer for this reason and top washer to help protect the top busing from the nut. My kingpin nut is just flush with the kingpin. If you want to ride looser than that than you can take out the bottom washer because the difference it makes is minimal. really just an ocd thing. so if you like your trucks tight enough to have both washers on and the kingpin nut not falling off, which is still pretty loose, then do it. ride without it if you like your shit hella loose
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Alright you definitely convinced me to put both washers on. Props on that breakdown hesaidwhat 8)
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So I just got new set of these today, the mediums. I've had a set before in the past but they deteriorated after only two months, but for the two months they lasted they were great. I needed new bushings so i figured id give these another go. As I was putting these bushings onto my truck i noticed that they were kinda hard to get onto the kingpin, i had to kinda force em on. One of the top bushings just slid in a little too easily though. I took a look at it and it turns out that they drilled the hole in the bushing a little bit wider than usual, which is why it slid down the kingpin so easily. When i wiggle the bushing when its on the kingpin it has just a teeny bit of play since the hole is a little bit bigger than usual. I set em up and it feels normal, doesnt feel like anything is wrong when im riding. I was wondering should I just skate em like that or should i try to return em or contact bones? Would the bushing deteriorate faster since the hole is wider than usual, or should i have no problems?
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What trucks do you guys use them in? I've had the same mediums in my indys for half a year now, no problems.
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So I just got new set of these today, the mediums. I've had a set before in the past but they deteriorated after only two months, but for the two months they lasted they were great. I needed new bushings so i figured id give these another go. As I was putting these bushings onto my truck i noticed that they were kinda hard to get onto the kingpin, i had to kinda force em on. One of the top bushings just slid in a little too easily though. I took a look at it and it turns out that they drilled the hole in the bushing a little bit wider than usual, which is why it slid down the kingpin so easily. When i wiggle the bushing when its on the kingpin it has just a teeny bit of play since the hole is a little bit bigger than usual. I set em up and it feels normal, doesnt feel like anything is wrong when im riding. I was wondering should I just skate em like that or should i try to return em or contact bones? Would the bushing deteriorate faster since the hole is wider than usual, or should i have no problems?
classic wait and see situation.
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I sent them bushings & SWISS BEARINGS to them and I got a cert. mail receipt and they told me they never got the BEARINGS
I will never waste my money on SkateOne products again.
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I sent them bushings & SWISS BEARINGS to them and I got a cert. mail receipt and they told me they never got the BEARINGS
I will never waste my money on SkateOne products again.
they sent me replacement bushings, they arrived in 2,5 weeks and i live in europe.
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I had the same problem they don't return swiss bearings.
But they do replace bushings
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riding the mediums, they feel great, but my trucks are real loose (thuunder 149's) and am thinking of going for hard ones next time, anyone notice much diff in the two?
i just wonder cos i find i get alot of wheelbite
PS
I LOVE SKATEBOARD NERDERY
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riding the mediums, they feel great, but my trucks are real loose (thuunder 149's) and am thinking of going for hard ones next time, anyone notice much diff in the two?
i just wonder cos i find i get alot of wheelbite
I was at the shop and i set up some of the hard ones to try em out and holy shit, they were stiff as all hell. I had both washers on, so i took off the bottom washers and tried em again with only the top washer on and they were still too tight feeling. I had em on as loose as they would go too. I would say i ride my trucks on the tighter side of medium, but they just felt a little too tight to me. They didn't have as much give to them when i would turn/lean a certain way like the mediums did. I ended up getting a set of the mediums cause the hards just felt too stiff to me. A friend was telling me that once you skate the hards for a bit they end up getting softer and they get that medium tight feel, but fuck that, i dont wanna spend time breaking in bushings to get em to feel a certain way (especially now in the cold ass winter time, worst of all times to break in bushings) when i could just go for the mediums and have that feeling right off the bat.
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I've been using these for like 3 years now..I've been able to fit em into Indys, Thunders and Royals with no problems. I had so much trouble fitting them into venture hi's. if i did get em in the bottom one would bulge out, so i just used the stock top one. Bones bushings are the shit!