Slap MessageBoards

General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: pica on July 13, 2012, 06:57:26 AM

Title: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: pica on July 13, 2012, 06:57:26 AM
so, i'm writing my diploma thesis and guess what- i picked the easy way and write about skateboarding.

now i need to write a part about the history. i know most of that stuff, but that doesn't count, i need proof of my knowledge like articles and or books i can use citations from.

unfortunately it's not considerd empiric to quote the slap message boards, thrasher magazine and e-how.

so any tips concerning books or publications or at least a reliable web source would be highy appreciated.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Random Matt on July 13, 2012, 07:20:30 AM
Is it too late to change to a worthwhile topic?
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: pica on July 13, 2012, 07:32:50 AM
^way too late, i already wrote 53 pages about this bullshit.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: ttching! on July 13, 2012, 08:10:45 AM
Chrome Ball Incident should be a good resource for you, with all the interviews and photos that they have.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: get gnarly on July 13, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
There is that Dogtown Documentary, I'm not sure if you can use that but it has some pretty good background.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Alan on July 13, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
Maybe look through all the recent skate books a la Made For Skate, Disposable, the Independent book, etc...

I have this book at home but can't seem to find it. If I remember correctly it ha s a section on the history of skateboarding, and it might look legit in your footnotes...
(http://androes.kastanienhof-antiquariat.de/images/R17464.JPG)


edit: Found it. It's really simplistic, but I can scan the history section in the next few days if you want...
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Beeda Weeda on July 13, 2012, 08:53:15 AM
surfboards, roller skates, screws, hills, pools, weed, booze, meth, stuff, punk rock, hip hop, stairs, movies, xgames, leap of faith, video games, tsg helmets, skateparks, wiggers, hipsters, and.....death.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: grimcity on July 13, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
(http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1175909345l/573685.jpg)
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: ankerstaem on July 13, 2012, 09:16:17 AM
Why would it not be empiric to quote Thrasher (or old Skateboarder issues) when Thrasher's likely cited as a source and reference in any book reporting on the last 30+ years of skate history?

A really great source for you, one of my favorite "histories of the world," is the introductory timeline written by Craig Stecyk for Aaron Rose's book "Dysfunctional." From the ancient Polynesians to Sturt's poach, it's all in there.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: happenstance on July 13, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
^Totally agree, from an academic perspective magazines would be considered primary resources. Primary resources are the most valuable research material as they contain raw information that you can analyze rather than a book which already has a perspective and analysis.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Nosferatu on July 13, 2012, 11:10:05 AM
(http://www.joepopp.net/jpsaimages/never.jpg)

This covers the history well. Good read all the way through.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 13, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
^Totally agree, from an academic perspective magazines would be considered primary resources. Primary resources are the most valuable research material as they contain raw information that you can analyze rather than a book which already has a perspective and analysis.
Primary sources tend to have hard perspectives because they tend to come from somebody who had a single perspective on the event at the time. They are more valuable though due to their undiluted nature.

When a kid at the high school I used to work at came to me for advice on resources for skate history I pointed him to On Video, though that might not be acceptable at this academic level.  Still, I agree with most that media created by and for the culture itself are pretty acceptable.
Don't use transworld if you do use any magazine though, they get shit wrong constantly.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: luficer on July 13, 2012, 12:19:57 PM
^way too late, i already wrote 53 pages about this bullshit.

this made me laugh.
Chromeball is a great reference, considering they themselves often link to their own pertinant info.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: able on July 13, 2012, 12:28:29 PM
this is all you'll need...

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XGn8X4GzL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)


Nah, but seriously. This book (below) is really good. Amazon even lets you flip the whole thing online. That shit is cray!

http://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Wave-History-Skateboarding/dp/1894020545 (http://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Wave-History-Skateboarding/dp/1894020545)
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: pica on July 13, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
wow, so much input thank you guys.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Upgrayedd on July 13, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
(http://longboardliving.squarespace.com/storage/the_concrete_wave_the_history_of_skateboarding_skateboarding_1_1894020545_490x350.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1325714137661)
This book has some pretty good stuff in it
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Bobby Peru on July 13, 2012, 07:38:28 PM
This is the book that inspired Dogtown and Z Boys, collecting some of Stecyk's articles and Friendman's photos from early Skateboarder mags.

(http://www.surfbooks.com/stecykdogtown.jpg)
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: landCow on July 13, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
(http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1175909345l/573685.jpg)
yep, beat me to it. but let me also add the tony hawk book
(http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/86/106786-004-BEE9191B.jpg)
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Dutch on July 14, 2012, 03:23:00 AM
This is the book that inspired Dogtown and Z Boys, collecting some of Stecyk's articles and Friendman's photos from early Skateboarder mags.

(http://www.surfbooks.com/stecykdogtown.jpg)
looks like a great one, should get me a copy!

really liked the Mutt too
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: truthislie on July 14, 2012, 04:03:12 AM
I also wrote my thesis about skateboarding - history part was mostly the Zarka book mentioned before and this one:

http://books.google.at/books?id=vWWWfp_22DQC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.at/books?id=vWWWfp_22DQC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)

This guy Borden uses a lot of old Magazines as primary sources. For me, looking through old magazines would have cost too much time to be honest.
Title: Re: Skateboarding history- i need your help
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 14, 2012, 02:03:12 PM
the man who souled the world is pretty good in terms of documenting the 90's.