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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: JPCanada on September 07, 2012, 09:44:44 AM
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As we all know by now, Dyrdek is moving the entire DNA operation from Dayton to Southern California and entering a partnership with the Anthem Media Group (responsible for Metal Mullisha amongst other brands). Furthermore, he seems focused on increasing the range of consumer goods that will be branded as Alien Workshop products. To top it all off, he only offered current DNA employees a 12% pay raise to move from Ohio to California, hardly enough to cover the increased cost of living. Safe to say, not many of the long tenured DNA employees will be making the move.
In turn, the rumor mill is churning and there has been word of a possible Dill/Ave headed brand to be backed financially by the VF Corp (Vans).
As much as I can't imagine Dill and Ave ever leaving The Workshop, none of the aforementioned points seem to be in line with anything those dudes have ever been perceived to believe in. Heck, maybe they both just cherish Dyrdek that much, or maybe they've been promised they'll be "raking it in" once the various consumer goods hit the shelves.
How do you guys see this playing out? Can you imagine a scenario where they take most of the entire team? Or merge the best dudes from Workshop with Habitat?
P.S. Kind of ironic, this all would have been right up Berra's alley.
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Leaving the Dyrdek empire for another, bigger corporation doesn't make any sense.
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they don't care
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They should bring back Seek
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Another milestone in rob dyrdek's mission to make skateboarding gay
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They should bring back Seek
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
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So fucking lame. Hearing Dill spill his heart out about how much he loves the Workshop in all these interviews this week and then shit like this happening is a tad bit disappointing. At least Burton knew how to fuck off and just leave the graphics/ideas as they are...
I can't wait for the Alien Workshop Pizza Burritos and action figure chain though.
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I could fuck with an AWS Broom and dustpan..
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Doubt this would happen. Don't want to bash on the two but they don't seem responsible to even head a new board company. Plus even when AWS was under Burton, Dill didn't mind and actually backed it. I remember him saying in some interview that AWS is practically the same still.
But if it does, I would imagine Dylan going wherever they go.
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"downriver" might be a legit name for it.
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I highly doubt this would happen.
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doubt it would happen too but i'd like to see it happen.
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BULLSHIT. the key words being "RUMOR MILL". those guys both have it pretty damn good with Alien Workshop/DNA, etc...
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They're already acting heads of a brand they clearly love. Get it together holmes.
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DAVE Skateboards. sounds fantastic.
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As we all know by now, Dyrdek is moving the entire DNA operation from Dayton to Southern California and entering a partnership with the Anthem Media Group (responsible for Metal Mullisha amongst other brands). Furthermore, he seems focused on increasing the range of consumer goods that will be branded as Alien Workshop products. To top it all off, he only offered current DNA employees a 12% pay raise to move from Ohio to California, hardly enough to cover the increased cost of living. Safe to say, not many of the long tenured DNA employees will be making the move.
In turn, the rumor mill is churning and there has been word of a possible Dill/Ave headed brand to be backed financially by the VF Corp (Vans).
As much as I can't imagine Dill and Ave ever leaving The Workshop, none of the aforementioned points seem to be in line with anything those dudes have ever been perceived to believe in. Heck, maybe they both just cherish Dyrdek that much, or maybe they've been promised they'll be "raking it in" once the various consumer goods hit the shelves.
How do you guys see this playing out? Can you imagine a scenario where they take most of the entire team? Or merge the best dudes from Workshop with Habitat?
P.S. Kind of ironic, this all would have been right up Berra's alley.
I think they're calling it Pro-gram.
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I wouldnt mind seeing dill and ave leave. they do seem to be a kind of a lynchpin for the team but i would like to see that initial scary moment happen to dna. then let the kids figure out what alien workshop should be. Dill/ave's perspective is cool but not necessary. Let em get on chocolate or girl or do their own company somewhere. And take dylan with you. I kinda want this generation of workshop to be built around gilbert jake and grant, they have the best philosophys in skateboarding right now. Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
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AVE = Batman
DILL = Robin
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I wouldnt mind seeing dill and ave leave. they do seem to be a kind of a lynchpin for the team but i would like to see that initial scary moment happen to dna. then let the kids figure out what alien workshop should be. Dill/ave's perspective is cool but not necessary. Let em get on chocolate or girl or do their own company somewhere. And take dylan with you. I kinda want this generation of workshop to be built around gilbert jake and grant, they have the best philosophys in skateboarding right now. Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
Turn away from both coasts, yet build it around two dudes from the East coast?
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Jake is focusing on skating places other than new york now and making that his focus and gilbert is from virgina? i dont consider that "east coast". Its more southern if anything. "East coast" is more associated with the new england area and the tri-state than anything else. Also, id like to see jake getting more creative control over the company.
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BULLSHIT. the key words being "RUMOR MILL". those guys both have it pretty damn good with Alien Workshop/DNA, etc...
thanks davesteeve
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12% pay increase doesnt sound too bad. minimum wage for ohio is 7.70 and ca is 8.00. at leats theyre not living in ohio
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You can't afford shit on that pay increase California is just too expensive dumb move
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
haha
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Jake is focusing on skating places other than new york now and making that his focus and gilbert is from virgina? i dont consider that "east coast". Its more southern if anything. "East coast" is more associated with the new england area and the tri-state than anything else. Also, id like to see jake getting more creative control over the company.
I'll trust you, but only because I think Lenny Kirk knows the Workshop better than I do.
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I mean its just what id like to see happen, not saying it would. if it did it'd probably have to be after the next workshop video when ave and dill would retire instead of leaving. Which is nicer i suppose. I just like the idea of a company this big burning itself to the ground to start something new and a little unusual. Itd be difficult to lose two more legacy guys and then have to tell dylan and the other cali guys like mikey and piscopo to fuck off. They did it to bo turner tho and let kalis walk off and they had the balls to fire neil blender and don pendleton so it's not impossible. Not sure how down dyrdek would be about this though since he owns the company now. Whatever, i guess, its just a hypothetical.
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Also, id like to see jake getting more creative control over the company.
I completely agree, but not right now. There's no need to rush into the future. But, Jake is one of the illest and smartest dudes to ever be on Alien Workshop. It's gonna be awesome when he's the Dill/Ave of the team (hopefully he stays there and continues the legacy of it).
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Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
The bold move can be the right move, but this is the skateboard industry. Alien's edge is gone to me, and once nostalgia is gone maybe people will break away to start something fresh. Or stay for the check, whatever, I'm not buying the boards.
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If my "Dylan Late Night Snuggle" Workshop pyjamas don't come in the mail soon I am going to kill somebody. True story.
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I mean its just what id like to see happen, not saying it would. if it did it'd probably have to be after the next workshop video when ave and dill would retire instead of leaving. Which is nicer i suppose. I just like the idea of a company this big burning itself to the ground to start something new and a little unusual. Itd be difficult to lose two more legacy guys and then have to tell dylan and the other cali guys like mikey and piscopo to fuck off. They did it to bo turner tho and let kalis walk off and they had the balls to fire neil blender and don pendleton so it's not impossible. Not sure how down dyrdek would be about this though since he owns the company now. Whatever, i guess, its just a hypothetical.
They didnt fire Blender, Blender is a dude that does whatever he wants, if he wants to do graphics he will, if not he wont. As far as the other shit if Dill and Ave walked it probably wouldnt be that big of a deal, in reality it would free up money and resources so that dudes like Dylan and Jake Johnson would be bigger deals at the company. If Dill left it would be a bigger deal to Dill and his fanboys (who most of probably don't buy skateboards) than anyone else.
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
I'm glad someone does, that shit sucked.
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Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
The bold move can be the right move, but this is the skateboard industry.? Alien's edge is gone to me, and once nostalgia is gone maybe people will break away to start something fresh.? Or stay for the check, whatever, I'm not buying the boards.
Are many people still skating them? I don't know if it's like this anywhere else but I never see anyone riding Workshop boards.
those boards are the best, same wood as dlx but without the hell concave
ps. |o| reboot?!?
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
I'm glad someone does, that shit sucked.
You dudes are trippin. Kalis, Carolino and Flo all on one team is your definition of sucking? Fuck outta here.
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I mean its just what id like to see happen, not saying it would. if it did it'd probably have to be after the next workshop video when ave and dill would retire instead of leaving. Which is nicer i suppose. I just like the idea of a company this big burning itself to the ground to start something new and a little unusual. Itd be difficult to lose two more legacy guys and then have to tell dylan and the other cali guys like mikey and piscopo to fuck off. They did it to bo turner tho and let kalis walk off and they had the balls to fire neil blender and don pendleton so it's not impossible. Not sure how down dyrdek would be about this though since he owns the company now. Whatever, i guess, its just a hypothetical.
This doesn't make sense. Do you think Dill is selling boards because of his brief stint on The Osbournes or something? I'd just assume most of the people who are fans of him are fans of his skating first-and-foremost
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Alien Workshop needs to bring Bo Turner back
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Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
The bold move can be the right move, but this is the skateboard industry.? Alien's edge is gone to me, and once nostalgia is gone maybe people will break away to start something fresh.? Or stay for the check, whatever, I'm not buying the boards.
Are many people still skating them? I don't know if it's like this anywhere else but I never see anyone riding Workshop boards.
those boards are the best, same wood as dlx but without the hell concave
ps. |o| reboot?!?
Yeah i like them even more than dlx boards
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Jake is focusing on skating places other than new york now and making that his focus and gilbert is from virgina? i dont consider that "east coast". Its more southern if anything. "East coast" is more associated with the new england area and the tri-state than anything else. Also, id like to see jake getting more creative control over the company.
Just to Clarify, Virginia is definitely East Coast.
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Rumor has it that it's called Up River Skateboards
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this topic is going to get heated
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My alien workshop soap made me skin very dry.
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Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
The bold move can be the right move, but this is the skateboard industry.? Alien's edge is gone to me, and once nostalgia is gone maybe people will break away to start something fresh.? Or stay for the check, whatever, I'm not buying the boards.
Are many people still skating them? I don't know if it's like this anywhere else but I never see anyone riding Workshop boards.
Thats a shame, aws boards are the best. Im skating a habitat right now and I have a new alien board comin up next, best wood ever
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Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
The bold move can be the right move, but this is the skateboard industry.? Alien's edge is gone to me, and once nostalgia is gone maybe people will break away to start something fresh.? Or stay for the check, whatever, I'm not buying the boards.
Are many people still skating them? I don't know if it's like this anywhere else but I never see anyone riding Workshop boards.
I live in Chile, in the other side of the fucking world and everyone loves and skates AWS boards, they are fucking great. Dunno what you are talking about
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I mean its just what id like to see happen, not saying it would. if it did it'd probably have to be after the next workshop video when ave and dill would retire instead of leaving. Which is nicer i suppose. I just like the idea of a company this big burning itself to the ground to start something new and a little unusual. Itd be difficult to lose two more legacy guys and then have to tell dylan and the other cali guys like mikey and piscopo to fuck off. They did it to bo turner tho and let kalis walk off and they had the balls to fire neil blender and don pendleton so it's not impossible. Not sure how down dyrdek would be about this though since he owns the company now. Whatever, i guess, its just a hypothetical.
no what i'm saying the dudes that like Dill are older dudes, dudes who that get free boards or cheap boards or ride shop boards and their buddies company boards. I New Orleans i dont see many 16 year old kids giving a fuck about Jason Dill, he probably has one of the worst selling boards on Workshop. I would guess the dudes selling boards are Grant, Dylan, and Omar.
People on here seem to never realize who buys skateboards, 28 year old dudes that like Ricky Oyola, Jason Dill, and any other legend dont buy them. They may pick up a wall hanger every now and then but they aren't riding pro decks on a regular basis.
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You're lucky, but you guys definitely must not be aware of teenager tumblr/OFWGKTA culture. With the internet kids have accessability to a lot...old video parts, interviews, random shit. There was a lull maybe five plus years ago, but kids (like high school age) love Dill these days. It's really obvious that him, Dylan, and Omar actually easily sell the most Alien shit at my shop. Grant probably next.
seriously, Im one of those tumblr kids and I have learned more about the history of skating in the last few months then I ever did before I had a tumblr. I'm 18 and Dill/AVE are so sick. I just watched Louie Barletta's part in that old tilt mode video and now its like my favorite part. I havent even seen the SB chronicles or that Nyjah Huston video. no joke tumblr is full of culture and theres no room for lame shit like $5.99 iTunes skate videos
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You're lucky, but you guys definitely must not be aware of teenager tumblr/OFWGKTA culture. With the internet kids have accessability to a lot...old video parts, interviews, random shit. There was a lull maybe five plus years ago, but kids (like high school age) love Dill these days. It's really obvious that him, Dylan, and Omar actually easily sell the most Alien shit at my shop. Grant probably next.
haha this sounds really sarcastic but im not joking. Im backing a new company from the older dudes too, that would be dope
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Im 35 and I buy more skate product now than ever.
Old folks may not have the time like young kids, but we have jobs.
Oh Im riding an alien now... Jakes board.
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I have been reading slap forum for a long time and this is the first topic that I have wanted to respond to. I have been skateboarding all my life and to say that older guys only buy shop boards or hand me downs is regular. Ok, back on topic. If Dill and Ave were to start a new company I think that would be amazing, sometime you need to reset the system. That is why palace and polar and krooked are so rad. I love alien workshop, in fact I had the first preying mantis rob dydrek deck. With that said what they are doing with Alien sounds awful and I am scared for the company. With the downfall of skateboarding happening at a rapid pace due to the berrics, monster, street league...etc, we need a change. When Rocco was starting world everyone thought he was crazy, when they started girl everyone thought they were crazy. If a dill/ave company could be a fraction of how awesome those two were/are then we are in for an treat.
By the way, everyone saying how "great" seek was, you are fucking nuts because that company (not skaters) sucked.
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I have been reading slap forum for a long time and this is the first topic that I have wanted to respond to. I have been skateboarding all my life and to say that older guys only buy shop boards or hand me downs is regular. Ok, back on topic. If Dill and Ave were to start a new company I think that would be amazing, sometime you need to reset the system. That is why palace and polar and krooked are so rad. I love alien workshop, in fact I had the first preying mantis rob dydrek deck. With that said what they are doing with Alien sounds awful and I am scared for the company. With the downfall of skateboarding happening at a rapid pace due to the berrics, monster, street league...etc, we need a change. When Rocco was starting world everyone thought he was crazy, when they started girl everyone thought they were crazy. If a dill/ave company could be a fraction of how awesome those two were/are then we are in for an treat.
By the way, everyone saying how "great" seek was, you are fucking nuts because that company (not skaters) sucked.
i really doubt a company backed by a major corporation is gonna do anything to save skateboarding, the reality is everything they do will have to go through a revue board to make sure it is up to the companys standards. And i didnt say old dudes ride hand me downs, they generally have some kinda hook up where they either get new boards for free or cheap. They might be pro boards from a company their friend works at or shop boards and a lot of times they get shit from local companies.
I buy a fair amount of new pro boards but i rarely skate those, and thats more of what i see with the older dudes in citys.
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I think there are a lot of older dudes who kinda suck and don't have many friends/hookups that love skating.more in smaller towns probably.I'm gonna be a dude paying full price till I die.I'll buy a pro board, price doesn't matter.
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I have been reading slap forum for a long time and this is the first topic that I have wanted to respond to. I have been skateboarding all my life and to say that older guys only buy shop boards or hand me downs is regular. Ok, back on topic. If Dill and Ave were to start a new company I think that would be amazing, sometime you need to reset the system. That is why palace and polar and krooked are so rad. I love alien workshop, in fact I had the first preying mantis rob dydrek deck. With that said what they are doing with Alien sounds awful and I am scared for the company. With the downfall of skateboarding happening at a rapid pace due to the berrics, monster, street league...etc, we need a change. When Rocco was starting world everyone thought he was crazy, when they started girl everyone thought they were crazy. If a dill/ave company could be a fraction of how awesome those two were/are then we are in for an treat.
By the way, everyone saying how "great" seek was, you are fucking nuts because that company (not skaters) sucked.
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i really doubt a company backed by a major corporation is gonna do anything to save skateboarding, the reality is everything they do will have to go through a revue board to make sure it is up to the companys standards. And i didnt say old dudes ride hand me downs, they generally have some kinda hook up where they either get new boards for free or cheap. They might be pro boards from a company their friend works at or shop boards and a lot of times they get shit from local companies.
I buy a fair amount of new pro boards but i rarely skate those, and thats more of what i see with the older dudes in citys.
I am not saying they have any chance of saving skateboarding, I am simply saying that it will make it more interesting. Depending on your view of skateboarding, you could either think this is a good time with the growth of it or like me, you think it is the worst time in skateboarding. Anything that is different than the norm I am all for.
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^Yea because slave, think, alien workshop, traffic, send help, hopps, palace, magenta, bacon, lifeblood, toy machine, skatemafia, fabo les, anti hero, krooked, heroin, polar, studio, roger, and boulevard are all terrible companies who you shouldn't support and contribute to this being the worst time ever in skating
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i highly doubt dill/ave are going anywhere. If they do make another board company with dna dist. dill/ave are gonna stay on the workshop. they rep it so hard and plus they are the face of alien workshop now, they wouldn't leave for a stupid business deal. all this talk about alien changing for the worst is so negative. Rob would never turn his back on alien workshop and make it into something its not. Carter is there. the whole team: ave, dill, rieder, salazar, johnson etc they all know what alien workshop is about. Rob can't make drastic changes if the whole team isn't on board with it.
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^Yea because slave, think, alien workshop, traffic, send help, hopps, palace, magenta, bacon, lifeblood, toy machine, skatemafia, fabo les, anti hero, krooked, heroin, polar, studio, roger, and boulevard are all terrible companies who you shouldn't support and contribute to this being the worst time ever in skating
Don't forget Ammo. In these dark times I really think we should be supporting someone who has made present day skateboarding what it is.
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^Yea because slave, think, alien workshop, traffic, send help, hopps, palace, magenta, bacon, lifeblood, toy machine, skatemafia, fabo les, anti hero, krooked, heroin, polar, studio, roger, and boulevard are all terrible companies who you shouldn't support and contribute to this being the worst time ever in skating
best company ever
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i am not afraid for Alien Workshop, i think Rob will not change it so much.
Maybe the structure from Office/Distribution/ Design and move it to cali.
But that makes sense if he will "control" DNA/Alien/Habitat.
But Habitat he will change complete to an "life style" company, so he need to
change the Distribution first.
I think Alien is Rob?s "hobby" and giving DNA some credibillity
and Habitat he try to make a cashcow out of it.
Skateboards/clothing/shoes + livestyle shit....
Core/Alien and Mainstream/Habitat goes hand in hand and the winner is Rob Dyrdek.
Anything else doesnt make sense.
Changing someting like Alien is just stupid.
You dont give money to buy one of the most legit Hardgood Company to make it shitty.
You dont make that money with hardgoods, the cost of changing it is just wasted money.
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Im 35 and I buy more skate product now than ever.
Old folks may not have the time like young kids, but we have jobs.
Oh Im riding an alien now... Jakes board.
I agree, I'm 28 and whenever I go to a skate shop I almost never leave with nothing unless the store has nothing in my size. I'll always pick up a pair of shoes, sometimes a deck if its one I wanna hold onto.
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I mean its just what id like to see happen, not saying it would. if it did it'd probably have to be after the next workshop video when ave and dill would retire instead of leaving. Which is nicer i suppose. I just like the idea of a company this big burning itself to the ground to start something new and a little unusual. Itd be difficult to lose two more legacy guys and then have to tell dylan and the other cali guys like mikey and piscopo to fuck off. They did it to bo turner tho and let kalis walk off and they had the balls to fire neil blender and don pendleton so it's not impossible. Not sure how down dyrdek would be about this though since he owns the company now. Whatever, i guess, its just a hypothetical.
People on here seem to never realize who buys skateboards, 28 year old dudes that like Ricky Oyola, Jason Dill, and any other legend dont buy them. They may pick up a wall hanger every now and then but they aren't riding pro decks on a regular basis.
That's very true! I don't buy boards. Fuck that. Even funnier, I'm riding an Alien board right now and I have another Alien waiting to be set-up. The only thing that sucks about free boards is that you don't get to pick the size or shape.... but skating is still fun. I can't complain.
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Alex Olson can jump ship just before Pretty Sweet, thus extending his video part drought. Get Fat Bill involved. Call it....Vice Skateboards, sold exclusively at American Apparel stores in very limited stock.
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Alex Olson can jump ship just before Pretty Sweet, thus extending his video part drought. Get Fat Bill involved. Call it....Vice Skateboards, sold exclusively at American Apparel stores in very limited stock.
Judging from your attempt at humour, it must be 2006 where you live.
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Personally, I think the 'Believe' ball-sack sweat tamer is going to be a fucking game changer. Gonna have to talk with Fidelity about getting some DNA stock added to the portfolio.
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i am not afraid for Alien Workshop, i think Rob will not change it so much.
Maybe the structure from Office/Distribution/ Design and move it to cali.
But that makes sense if he will "control" DNA/Alien/Habitat.
But Habitat he will change complete to an "life style" company, so he need to
change the Distribution first.
I think Alien is Rob?s "hobby" and giving DNA some credibillity
and Habitat he try to make a cashcow out of it.
Skateboards/clothing/shoes + livestyle shit....
Core/Alien and Mainstream/Habitat goes hand in hand and the winner is Rob Dyrdek.
Anything else doesnt make sense.
Changing someting like Alien is just stupid.
You dont give money to buy one of the most legit Hardgood Company to make it shitty.
You dont make that money with hardgoods, the cost of changing it is just wasted money.
Changing, design and distribution outlets are pretty major changes.
Also, please explain to me what "livestyle" shit is. So the way you see it Habitat will be making boards, shoes, and clothing...sounds exactly like what they make now. If his "hobby" or mission was to give DNA credibility taking a company away from it's roots and moving it to California under the same roof as Metal Mulisha probably isn't the best approach.
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Alex Olson can jump ship just before Pretty Sweet, thus extending his video part drought. ? Get Fat Bill involved. ? Call it....Vice Skateboards, sold exclusively at American Apparel stores in very limited stock. ?
Judging from your attempt at humour, it must be 2006 where you live.
I'm sorry HairyCunt, that was pretty lame. Can we still be friends?
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Personally, I think the 'Believe' ball-sack sweat tamer is going to be a fucking game changer. Gonna have to talk with Fidelity about getting some DNA stock added to the portfolio.
Thanks
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this is very interesting
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i am not afraid for Alien Workshop, i think Rob will not change it so much.
Maybe the structure from Office/Distribution/ Design and move it to cali.
But that makes sense if he will "control" DNA/Alien/Habitat.
But Habitat he will change complete to an "life style" company, so he need to
change the Distribution first.
I think Alien is Rob?s "hobby" and giving DNA some credibillity
and Habitat he try to make a cashcow out of it.
Skateboards/clothing/shoes + livestyle shit....
Core/Alien and Mainstream/Habitat goes hand in hand and the winner is Rob Dyrdek.
Anything else doesnt make sense.
Changing someting like Alien is just stupid.
You dont give money to buy one of the most legit Hardgood Company to make it shitty.
You dont make that money with hardgoods, the cost of changing it is just wasted money.
Changing, design and distribution outlets are pretty major changes.
Also, please explain to me what "livestyle" shit is. So the way you see it Habitat will be making boards, shoes, and clothing...sounds exactly like what they make now. If his "hobby" or mission was to give DNA credibility taking a company away from it's roots and moving it to California under the same roof as Metal Mulisha probably isn't the best approach.
maybe i am not well-worded
Alien Workshopt is an Label, with an History and an Style. I dont belife that Rob is changing this.
But behind that Label there is an distribution/ design department / managing department/ ect.
And i think he will move this People/ Part of the company from DNA to California.
Thats shitty for the people who like to life in Dayton/Ohio, have houses and familiy there, but for
the owner that makes sense.... and maybe are some people at Alien/DNA happy that they can move from
Ohio to California.
Rob want to make money he is an business man.
I think he will turn Habitat more from a now "core skateboard company" to an "lifestyle company"
we all have heard rumors like cosmetics/ soaping.
Rob belief he can make something bigger out of Habitat an ecological environmentallly sustainable skate and lifestyle label...
or something like that.
Habitat as an Label have maybe potential for an major target group, maybe you see in the future Mothers in Habitat Dress, and you have some organic habitat deodorant in Habitat Stores wordwide. I dont know.
I hope Rob knows that there is allready an Habitat Lifestyle Label in Europe.... www.habitat.de (http://www.habitat.de) its ownd by of the most richest persons of the world Ingvar Kamprad the owner of www.ikea.com (http://www.ikea.com)
to get in a copyright act with that guy is harder then to deal with the hells angels.
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Rob want to make money he is an business man.
This.
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Rob want to make money he is an business man.
This.
Yeah but when you make an ad with the word "believe" it should mean something. Not "believe"......in dividends and a diversified portfolio.
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
I'm glad someone does, that shit sucked.
Carolino and Marfaing, that's who you bring up. I'm assuming you're European.
Kalis in mono was awesome. Still is. But that company wasn't. I forgot Bjorn Johnston rode for Seek.
It's probably also the reason Mikey Taylor is on Alien Workshop. Dude is cool, but I've always thought that was an odd fit for him to be on Alien.
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Do you guys even remember Seek? It really wasn't that cool. Foily paint. Leftover whatever AWS graphics. Greg Myers.
I'm glad someone does, that shit sucked.
Kalis in mono was awesome. Still is. But that company wasn't. I forgot Bjorn Johnston rode for Seek.
It's probably also the reason Mikey Taylor is on Alien Workshop. Dude is cool, but I've always thought that was an odd fit for him to be on Alien.
makes me miss new flo footage.
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I think a lot of people here are putting alien on a pedestal it doesn't really fit on. I'm sure there are some people on here old enough to remember when alien was everywhere. 93-95 or 96 every mall walker, surfer, jock whatever was running aws. That fuckin spectrum graphic was damn near everywhere on every soccer mom in town. Their mainstream popularity came and went, and they were fine. If anything it gave them the time and money to come back with things like photosynthesis and beefing up their roster.
The reality is hardgoods aren't the breadwinner they used to be and dna can't be doing amazing (i'm only assuming here but i think its a fair assumption) considering how it's been changing hands the last few years. So, if it means a good company has to expand its consumer base to keep its core intact, fuck it, you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't hear many people complaining about vans having mall stores and girls lines cause it lets them keep the classics and skate programs going even if they may or may not be keeping the company afloat on their own. Dna can do their habitat rebrand and aws will still be aws, and habitat will still be habitat. Making money doesn't equal selling out or whatever you guys are complaining about.
As for the 12%, I worked for a company that relocated and that sort of offer was only extended to management. the rest of us were just told to move with or move on. That's a pretty stand up thing to offer in my opinion if it applied to everyone.
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Carolino and Mirtain, that's who you bring up. I'm assuming you're European.
Kalis in mono was awesome. Still is. But that company wasn't. I forgot Bjorn Johnston rode for Seek.
It's probably also the reason Mikey Taylor is on Alien Workshop. Dude is cool, but I've always thought that was an odd fit for him to be on Alien.
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I agree with you that Mikey Taylor seems like a weird fit on Alien. That being said, he definitely seems like one of the nicer dudes in skateboarding, so I doubt he's rubbing anybody on the team the wrong way. Plus, he is a skate rat. He might not always be "in the van" like those guys have said in the past, but it sounds like he skates everyday. In terms of this topic, he seems least likely to leave as a result of the changes at DNA.
Another interesting tangent in the Alien saga...remember in Pop's Epicly Later'd when he talks about why he left Alien? I believe Strobeck says something about him being bummed on dudes in the van just talking about themselves for entire trips. It's obviously pure speculation but do you guys have any guesses as to who that may have been? My best guess is Berra obviously. Least likely would be Heath.
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I think a lot of people here are putting alien on a pedestal it doesn't really fit on. I'm sure there are some people on here old enough to remember when alien was everywhere. 93-95 or 96 every mall walker, surfer, jock whatever was running aws. That fuckin spectrum graphic was damn near everywhere on every soccer mom in town. Their mainstream popularity came and went, and they were fine. If anything it gave them the time and money to come back with things like photosynthesis and beefing up their roster.
The reality is hardgoods aren't the breadwinner they used to be and dna can't be doing amazing (i'm only assuming here but i think its a fair assumption) considering how it's been changing hands the last few years. So, if it means a good company has to expand its consumer base to keep its core intact, fuck it, you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't hear many people complaining about vans having mall stores and girls lines cause it lets them keep the classics and skate programs going even if they may or may not be keeping the company afloat on their own. Dna can do their habitat rebrand and aws will still be aws, and habitat will still be habitat. Making money doesn't equal selling out or whatever you guys are complaining about.
As for the 12%, I worked for a company that relocated and that sort of offer was only extended to management. the rest of us were just told to move with or move on. That's a pretty stand up thing to offer in my opinion if it applied to everyone.
I still think they're corny because of this period. Team is sick...everything else about them sucks.
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I think a lot of people here are putting alien on a pedestal it doesn't really fit on. I'm sure there are some people on here old enough to remember when alien was everywhere. 93-95 or 96 every mall walker, surfer, jock whatever was running aws. That fuckin spectrum graphic was damn near everywhere on every soccer mom in town. Their mainstream popularity came and went, and they were fine. If anything it gave them the time and money to come back with things like photosynthesis and beefing up their roster.
The reality is hardgoods aren't the breadwinner they used to be and dna can't be doing amazing (i'm only assuming here but i think its a fair assumption) considering how it's been changing hands the last few years. So, if it means a good company has to expand its consumer base to keep its core intact, fuck it, you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't hear many people complaining about vans having mall stores and girls lines cause it lets them keep the classics and skate programs going even if they may or may not be keeping the company afloat on their own. Dna can do their habitat rebrand and aws will still be aws, and habitat will still be habitat. Making money doesn't equal selling out or whatever you guys are complaining about.
As for the 12%, I worked for a company that relocated and that sort of offer was only extended to management. the rest of us were just told to move with or move on. That's a pretty stand up thing to offer in my opinion if it applied to everyone.
I still think they're corny because of this period. Team is sick...everything else about them sucks.
I thought they were pretty cheeseball at the time too, graphics wise at least. But it came and went and then you had the photosynthesis era alien, the pendleton graphics, all good shit.
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I wouldnt mind seeing dill and ave leave. they do seem to be a kind of a lynchpin for the team but i would like to see that initial scary moment happen to dna. then let the kids figure out what alien workshop should be. Dill/ave's perspective is cool but not necessary. Let em get on chocolate or girl or do their own company somewhere. And take dylan with you. I kinda want this generation of workshop to be built around gilbert jake and grant, they have the best philosophys in skateboarding right now. Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
This makes sense, dont get me wrong i like Dill but im kinda tired of that Supreme shit he's got going on and all the cool kids riding alien boards. A company based around Gilbert, Jake,Grant and Ozar would be good.
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This is severely depressing. AVE and Dill are so synonymous with Alien that the company will never be the same. I've loved Alien since I started skating and after everything the company has been through nothing has upset me more than this. I've been able to put up with Dyrdek but now I can't help but feel like this is all his fault and he is shooting his own company in the foot. He is abandoning the people who have helped build and support AWS as well as the people that have been actually buying their boards.
Rob is delusional and seriously believes that the decisions he makes are for the betterment of skateboarding. I wish Dill and AVE would have shook some sense into him and maybe thats what they tried to do, but I hate that it came to them leaving.
Also, I can't help but wonder how Heath feels about the way Rob is running things. I don't know why but I feel like he would have an interesting opinion now that he is not associated with Rob or Alien anymore.
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Alex Olson can jump ship just before Pretty Sweet, thus extending his video part drought. Get Fat Bill involved. Call it....Vice Skateboards, sold exclusively at American Apparel stores in very limited stock.
Judging from your attempt at humour, it must be 2006 where you live.
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This is severely depressing. AVE and Dill are so synonymous with Alien that the company will never be the same. I've loved Alien since I started skating and after everything the company has been through nothing has upset me more than this. I've been able to put up with Dyrdek but now I can't help but feel like this is all his fault and he is shooting his own company in the foot. He is abandoning the people who have helped build and support AWS as well as the people that have been actually buying their boards.
Rob is delusional and seriously believes that the decisions he makes are for the betterment of skateboarding. I wish Dill and AVE would have shook some sense into him and maybe thats what they tried to do, but I hate that it came to them leaving.
Also, I can't help but wonder how Heath feels about the way Rob is running things. I don't know why but I feel like he would have an interesting opinion now that he is not associated with Rob or Alien anymore.
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I wouldnt mind seeing dill and ave leave. they do seem to be a kind of a lynchpin for the team but i would like to see that initial scary moment happen to dna. then let the kids figure out what alien workshop should be. Dill/ave's perspective is cool but not necessary. Let em get on chocolate or girl or do their own company somewhere. And take dylan with you. I kinda want this generation of workshop to be built around gilbert jake and grant, they have the best philosophys in skateboarding right now. Get dave ackles for art direction and some other ohio guys and other buttfuck nowhere locals on and itll pretty much be one of the best eras of the company. Turn away from both coasts and focus on nowhere.
This makes sense, dont get me wrong i like Dill but im kinda tired of that Supreme shit he's got going on and all the cool kids riding alien boards. A company based around Gilbert, Jake,Grant and Ozar would be good.
yes, yes and yes!
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Rumor has it that it's called Up River Skateboards
Hardy Har Har
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Dill Tampons are too big and stretched my bung hole. :'(
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Dill Tampons are too big and stretched my bung hole. :'(
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Just re-hire Bo Turner, John Drake, and Neil Blender...Alien problem solved
Plus Dill was a jerk to me when he came over to my apartment in the mid-90's after a demo cause my roommate told him we could get him some good trees and got him some shitty Mexican weed. I've held onto the pain for years now.
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Just re-hire Bo Turner, John Drake, and Neil Blender...Alien problem solved
Plus Dill was a jerk to me when he came over to my apartment in the mid-90's after a demo cause my roommate told him we could get him some good trees and got him some shitty Mexican weed. I've held onto the pain for years now.
That's fucking awesome. I hope it was extra seedy.
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Just re-hire Bo Turner, John Drake, and Neil Blender...Alien problem solved
Plus Dill was a jerk to me when he came over to my apartment in the mid-90's after a demo cause my roommate told him we could get him some good trees and got him some shitty Mexican weed. I've held onto the pain for years now.
What, no Duane Pitre...?
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Im 35 and I buy more skate product now than ever.
Old folks may not have the time like young kids, but we have jobs.
Oh Im riding an alien now... Jakes board.
I agree, I'm 28 and whenever I go to a skate shop I almost never leave with nothing unless the store has nothing in my size. I'll always pick up a pair of shoes, sometimes a deck if its one I wanna hold onto.
It's true. I'm 28 too. And most of my disposable income goes into skateboards, shoes and highwaters.
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If my "Dylan Late Night Snuggle" Workshop? pyjamas don't come in the mail soon I am going to kill somebody. True story.
did you go for the onsie version with the built in pointy shoe feet?