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Title: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: pizza bitch on February 02, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
I usually dont like to gossip about shit like this, but a very reliable source was telling me that tum yeto is in effort of buying slave from black box. Apparently the whole team is down for the switch, theres just some problems with buying of inventory. I think this is awesome. Spill your thoughts
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: gsosa on February 02, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
Lets just hope they still make their boards at the same factory (which probably ont happen)
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: swagdragon123 on February 02, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
their new web site is stupid I liked the old one better
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: L33Tg33k on February 02, 2013, 11:01:43 AM
Tum Yeto wood sucks my ass.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Cameron Hoegee on February 02, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
Tum Yeto wood sucks my ass.
can't agree more. bought a foundation first session cracks fucking everywhere and I was only skating flat.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: otis shredding on February 02, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
its cool that their leaving isucks house of tyranny. its been ben hortons company the whole time and its just been distributed by black box, I've heard that he doesn't really let other zero/mystery rides grab slave product which is awesome
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Andrefosho on February 02, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
Tum Yeto wood sucks my ass.
I don't know man. If I could, my every second deck would be Toy Machine. Dope shapes.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: paraquat on February 02, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
their new web site is stupid I liked the old one better
Al least they still have it up
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: ice nine on February 02, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
what would the pointof this be?black box wood is great and it seems like they can do whatever they want as a company
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: justapenny on February 02, 2013, 12:15:49 PM
did this already happen? cracked a few day old slave on a flatground trick the other day
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: L33Tg33k on February 02, 2013, 12:17:45 PM
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Tum Yeto wood sucks my ass.
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I don't know man. If I could, my every second deck would be Toy Machine. Dope shapes.

It's cool you like their shapes, but when you're as fat as me you're a lot more sensitive to quality of wood. Their planks are much weaker than others.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on February 02, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
That would be awesome. I feel like Slave would also get more exposure than they do now. And think of the possibility of a Slave/Toy Machine video of any sort. I feel like Slave being through Blackbox wasn't allowing them as much exposure as the brand deserves.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: heckler on February 02, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
I'm a big boy and Toy Machines never do me wrong. Good move for Slave, this isn't a good sign for Black Box.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on February 02, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
stoked. I would actually start buying their boards if this happens.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Deekay on February 02, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
Fully backing this, I hope it goes through
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: doomstation55 on February 02, 2013, 01:21:43 PM
Black Box in the past month or so has announced the full launch of New Balance footwear into the skate game and lost their coolest brand in $lave. Yikes.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on February 02, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
if this is true it would be a bummer. black box boards feel and skate pretty good . tum yeto boards are flat soggy pieces of shit.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Seamus_McShamebag on February 02, 2013, 02:17:06 PM
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Tum Yeto wood sucks my ass.
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I don't know man. If I could, my every second deck would be Toy Machine. Dope shapes.
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It's cool you like their shapes, but when you're as fat as me you're a lot more sensitive to quality of wood. Their planks are much weaker than others.

You sir, are a dreamcrusher.  This beaut is waiting for me when my current mistress shits the bed...

(http://english.mashkulture.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/toy_machine_bury_the_hatchet_deck.jpg)

Changed things up from my usual and was hoping it would win me over on Yeto so we'll see how it works out. 
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: tob.1 on February 02, 2013, 02:29:52 PM
Backing this 100%
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: hornyrick on February 02, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
Toy machines don't even have a shape they are just flat :(
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Sold Out on February 02, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
I don't get all the blackbox hate, love their boards and would be bummed to leave see slave leave to Tum Yeto!!
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: j....soy..... on February 02, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
Agreed Tum Yeto decks feel like poop....soggy and flat...I wish I could skate Toy Machine...
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: foureyedjim on February 02, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
I haven't touched anything from black box or tum yeto in years.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Pearl on February 02, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: gsosa on February 02, 2013, 06:35:27 PM
BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
It doesn't matter, Blackbox decks are waaaaaay better than Tumyeto ones
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Pearl on February 02, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
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BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
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(http://www.pubtheo.com/images/chinese-workers.jpg)
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: pile on February 02, 2013, 07:25:38 PM
if this is true it would be a bummer. black box boards feel and skate pretty good . tum yeto boards are flat soggy pieces of shit.

tum yeto boards are my favorite.. they for sure use more than one wood shop for their boards as well. the watson boards are are usually flatter and a bit oddly shaped, but they have boards coming from mexico as well which gotta be from generator.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on February 02, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
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if this is true it would be a bummer. black box boards feel and skate pretty good . tum yeto boards are flat soggy pieces of shit.
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tum yeto boards are my favorite.. they for sure use more than one wood shop for their boards as well. the watson boards are are usually flatter and a bit oddly shaped, but they have boards coming from mexico as well which gotta be from generator.

Generator boards are made in the US. Bareback boards are from Mexico though
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: srsbsnss on February 02, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
This used to be the reason i bought only foundation decks but my last one was made in China instead of having the made in USA Watson stamp
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on February 02, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
Not factually correct on either account. I don't necessarily love black box, but at least keep it factual.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: snowman888 on February 02, 2013, 10:00:53 PM
who cares
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: oyolar on February 02, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
Am I the only one that feels like Black Box is in like a stasis right now?  Fallen has been advertising that Road Less Traveled vid for years when I thought it was supposed to be shorter clips of the team in unexpected locations. Mystery basically gave up on Color Theory-I could have sworn that like half of the team didn't have parts but were supposed to. Cold War has been advertised forever now when it was supposed to be part of their new plan for a video every few months. And I don't remember seeing a lot of product from any of the companies lately.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: ZEBRA on February 02, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
Would be so sick if this happens. I wanna buy some $lave shit, but I'm not backing Black Box.

Please, let this be true!!!
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: SUCKS on February 02, 2013, 11:18:57 PM
who cares

never have a seen a worthwhile post from you...


...and on topic, FUCK YEAH! good for $lave and tum yeto. i refuse to support black box.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: freebasepubes on February 03, 2013, 12:50:45 AM
fuck new balance
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: imgne on February 03, 2013, 05:06:14 AM
Rumor has it..... Black Box is on its last legs?

Realistically though, Zero & Slave are the only two brands worth giving a fuck about at black box.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Dutch on February 03, 2013, 05:34:54 AM
so the Chief is fucking up?
 dont know why he thinks he needs to do it all himself, get some help and try to trust someone to help out and steer away from the old ways... times change.

give each ship its own captain, and trust them.

anyhow good for slave! and toy
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: mooraga on February 03, 2013, 06:26:09 AM
Am I the only one that feels like Black Box is in like a stasis right now? Fallen has been advertising that Road Less Traveled vid for years when I thought it was supposed to be shorter clips of the team in unexpected locations. Mystery basically gave up on Color Theory-I could have sworn that like half of the team didn't have parts but were supposed to. Cold War has been advertised forever now when it was supposed to be part of their new plan for a video every few months. And I don't remember seeing a lot of product from any of the companies lately.

I was going to say the same  ::)

this its good for slave, on other hand blackbox seems to be on a big struggle this time
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on February 03, 2013, 10:04:51 AM
jamie has nothing to do with slave other than dist.
Ben horton owns that shit.
not really backing BB right now (a few homies who worked there were let go due to cut backs)
Seems like a good fit at Tum Yeto.
Slave always seemed separate from BB.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: pencil on February 03, 2013, 11:26:28 AM
maybe $lave going to tum yeto is how black box can move threat up from a price point brand?
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: stepfather666 on February 03, 2013, 11:36:31 PM
FUCK YEA, love slave and they might get more coverage over at tum yeto.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on February 03, 2013, 11:40:01 PM
no matter how bad the cheif seems to be kooking it, atleast ZERO will always survive

jamie is a dude that every skateboard should respect immensely, how many rough patches has TOY been through? Zero will over-come always, jamie has earned that 
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: zoltan on February 04, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
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BLACK BOX = CHINA. MEXICO FOR PRICEPOINT
TUM YETO = ALL USA

Quit bitching. Support something legit for once.
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Not factually correct on either account. I don't necessarily love black box, but at least keep it factual.

This makes no sense.... why would black box use better wood (mexico) for their pricepoints than their regularly priced (china) boards

Mexico wood im pretty sure is the best isnt that what Bareback uses?
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Aleister gnarly on February 04, 2013, 05:04:33 AM
no matter how bad the cheif seems to be kooking it, atleast ZERO will always survive

jamie is a dude that every skateboard should respect immensely, how many rough patches has TOY been through? Zero will over-come always, jamie has earned that 

My "skateboard" does not respect jamie thomas.  Why exactly does he deserve respect? 
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on February 04, 2013, 05:11:13 AM
do you know nothing about skateboarding history?
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Jackburton on February 04, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
Deluxe and Organika  The rest is a big gamble.  Even it it feels good at first it could turn to shit very quickly.  Sometimes I still wish I went with Deluxe even when I go with Organika, but it has more to do with shape I think.  Also, I guess other companies that have the p2 should be pretty good, but I dunno.  Not only do you have to look harder to find one, but there is also the issue of trust.  Deluxe has the best strategy.  They have pricepoint and then they have there good decks.  There is no ambiguity. 
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: mariomister on February 04, 2013, 06:26:16 AM
here in Italy Tumyeto sell only chinese wood
the decks are shitty and breaks in one session.
over there in Us i think they use Wood laminates and the wood are really good.
About black box in italy only chinese.Shitty stuff too.
i work for a distribution but never send us an answer at black box.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on February 04, 2013, 08:40:59 AM
lol @ italy. austria gets the good wood. $lave and toy are very high up there, quality wise.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Aleister gnarly on February 04, 2013, 08:44:31 AM
do you know nothing about skateboarding history?

Yes..... I do know about skateboard history.   But just like you and I might differ on fashion, we also may differ on the people who made an impact in skateboarding.  I have never found his skateboarding to be interesting, creative, or stylish.  Yes, he is good.  But just because you can ollie off of a two story building, does not mean you should.  

Now, he did bring us guys wearing girls pants, strange jesus'y shit, skateboards with skulls on them and a bunch of other companies that are so boring and forgetable that I cannot remember their names.  I do not have anything against him as a person, but as someone who has skateboarded all my life he is just not important at all.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: HeavyweightLurker on February 04, 2013, 09:01:14 AM
Back in the days... as Brian Anderson was still skating for Toy - the board where one of the best
in one line with Deluxe.
Zero was on Tum Yeto back in the days too.

But the whole Board Quality talk is just stupid, because no company produce by herself,
the only buy at a woodshop, in USA, Mexico or China... and all of them change the woodshop from time
to time. The Qualtiy of the woodshop changes from time to time too.
And the most board bracking problems comes not from producing the board, they are from stocking the board under
bad conditions.

So we need to talk again with the distributor/ the shop you buy.

Jamie Thomas, for sure he is an legend and have done sick stuff, and video parts.
Best part ever "welcome to hell" toy machine.
But  i dont believe its cool to work together with him, if you have your
own head - and dont want to follow the leader.

Slave as an idea of an skateboard company is cool, the just loose best man Rayburn
and more or less Mumford... thats a pitty.
But the whole aesthetic is pretty on point.

But what kind of distributer sales them to the skateshop - i dont think it wil change
a lot to the asthetic of the company, or the quality of the rider... or the amount of
footage and tours.
Cant belive that Tum Yeto can offer more to slave then blackbox or
selling there boards to the shops.
its just a question for the owner of the campany - still dealing
with the black box guys - or an new partner.

For us as the consumer - no different.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: HeavyweightLurker on February 04, 2013, 09:10:08 AM
here in Italy Tumyeto sell only chinese wood
the decks are shitty and breaks in one session.
over there in Us i think they use Wood laminates and the wood are really good.
About black box in italy only chinese.Shitty stuff too.
i work for a distribution but never send us an answer at black box.

its not Tum Yeto - its you shitty italien distributer who is selling shit to you.
The guys in america dont say we like austria we give him good wood, but the
fucking italien got the bad stuff...

The italien distributer can choose what kind of quailty he buy, sometimes
the distributers produce his own quality. Making own designs just pay money to america
to use the name and the logo of the company.
Check Ezekiel Amerika and Europe two total different companys - just the same logo/name/team.
But the stuff is different quality /design / production.

Go to the distributor and tell him he is just shit.

The whole distributer politic in europe in general is fucked up situation.
Still wait for an american skateboardcampany that make his own shit running in europe.
real from skateboarders to skateboarders... direkt and not that distribution whores
who have nothing to do with skateboarding... just pay some ex local hero as an Salesman
give him a free car and thats it.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: HeavyweightLurker on February 04, 2013, 09:23:31 AM
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do you know nothing about skateboarding history?
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Yes..... I do know about skateboard history.   But just like you and I might differ on fashion, we also may differ on the people who made an impact in skateboarding.  I have never found his skateboarding to be interesting, creative, or stylish.  Yes, he is good.  But just because you can ollie off of a two story building, does not mean you should.  

Now, he did bring us guys wearing girls pants, strange jesus'y shit, skateboards with skulls on them and a bunch of other companies that are so boring and forgetable that I cannot remember their names.  I do not have anything against him as a person, but as someone who has skateboarded all my life he is just not important at all.

Agree.

His first Transworld Interview, the "welcome to hell" part and the first Zero Video, because of his aesthetics and it was something new, have an Value to me, but after that it goes straight downhill.

Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: PowerRider666 on February 04, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
$lave boards are bareback, Tum Yeto uses Bareback and Watson, most Toy Machine boards are bareback, a few are Watson, and vice versa for Foundation. The large majority of Zero and Mystery are China wood since its cheaper to produce boards there. Look at the warning stickers on on the boards and itll say made in mexico(bareback) or made in china or if it has the american flag with the W, its watson which are America made. You stupid fucks.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: mariomister on February 04, 2013, 09:46:49 AM
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here in Italy Tumyeto sell only chinese wood
the decks are shitty and breaks in one session.
over there in Us i think they use Wood laminates and the wood are really good.
About black box in italy only chinese.Shitty stuff too.
i work for a distribution but never send us an answer at black box.
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its not Tum Yeto - its you shitty italien distributer who is selling shit to you.
The guys in america dont say we like austria we give him good wood, but the
fucking italien got the bad stuff...

The italien distributer can choose what kind of quailty he buy, sometimes
the distributers produce his own quality. Making own designs just pay money to america
to use the name and the logo of the company.
Check Ezekiel Amerika and Europe two total different companys - just the same logo/name/team.
But the stuff is different quality /design / production.

Go to the distributor and tell him he is just shit.

The whole distributer politic in europe in general is fucked up situation.
Still wait for an american skateboardcampany that make his own shit running in europe.
real from skateboarders to skateboarders... direkt and not that distribution whores
who have nothing to do with skateboarding... just pay some ex local hero as an Salesman
give him a free car and thats it.


i Know that i'm not against tumyeto
but anyway they opted to work with a shitty distributor for over 15 years.
i have ridden some watson laminates decks and they are great.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: pile on February 05, 2013, 05:21:33 PM
$lave boards are bareback, Tum Yeto uses Bareback and Watson, most Toy Machine boards are bareback, a few are Watson, and vice versa for Foundation. The large majority of Zero and Mystery are China wood since its cheaper to produce boards there. Look at the warning stickers on on the boards and itll say made in mexico(bareback) or made in china or if it has the american flag with the W, its watson which are America made. You stupid fucks.

right, bareback, not generator as i previously mentioned. nevertheless, i like both types of boards coming out of tumyeto, they are all i skate. to the italian guy, is your distributor only bringing in price point toy machine stuff? their price point stuff is china for sure.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: era on February 05, 2013, 05:48:35 PM
Toy Machine boards are really good.  I am down for this.  I like the Slave art direction.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: DeputyDoses on February 05, 2013, 10:32:10 PM
Toy Machine boards are really good.  I am down for this.  I like the Slave art direction.

I second this.

Slave will survive regardless of their distribution company. But, they do deserve a solid distribution company to back them. Sick graphics, outrageous team, and quality wood? - yeah. They'll be fine.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: hornyrick on February 06, 2013, 03:38:14 AM
 I really hope they don't switch to shitty tum yeto shapes
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: IanBZHD on February 06, 2013, 07:43:58 AM
When David Reyes got on mystery he had a video about his set-up saying something like, "I used to ride the Chinese mystery boards but i switched to the the bareback ones they make, they're much better" or something or other.

It blows my mind that companies even make different boards like that. It seems stupid to put our half your boards with shit-ass wood, then make the rest super strong and nicely made.

This being said, i skate mostly Toy Machine boards, team models and pro models. They always are super reliable and i really like the shape of their 8.25 boards. Some are super flat but i think those are the price-point boards. Everytime i buy a pro model Toy board or at least a full priced team model, the shape seems to be on-point and they are strong boards.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: mini greek on February 06, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
so the Chief is fucking up?
 dont know why he thinks he needs to do it all himself, get some help and try to trust someone to help out and steer away from the old ways... times change.

give each ship its own captain, and trust them.

anyhow good for slave! and toy

THIS!!!!!
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: Joust Ostrich on March 26, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
Sooooooo, this didn't happen.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: sfa on March 26, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
Tum Yeto should grab Slave and Steroe, cause fuck Antics!
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: swankybogan on March 26, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
I usually dont like to gossip about shit like this, but a very reliable source was telling me that tum yeto is in effort of buying slave from black box. Apparently the whole team is down for the switch, theres just some problems with buying of inventory. I think this is awesome. Spill your thoughts
ur fucking gay.
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: RerouteTheDoubt on March 26, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
alwayz was a fan of $laves Art direction..
Maybe this move will put a pat burke board on shelves...
Title: Re: $lave switching to Tum Yeto
Post by: MANshark on March 26, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
Within a year, it'll happen.