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Title: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 22, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Cop or Not is a new shoe review series I'm doing that basically serves as somewhat of a buyer's guide for those thinking about picking up some of the new shoe models out there. No ten paragraph descriptions of toecaps or multiple number ratings. I pretty much just skate the shoe for about 10-12 hours to get a feel for them, write a straight to the point description of it's qualities while being as informative as possible, and give my recommendations as to what kind of skater would get the most out of said shoe. I'll post pictures at the end to show the main areas for general wear and tear but I'm not spending a month doing more kickflips than usual in order to test durability. Everybody skates different and in turn wears down their shoes differently so I'm asking anyone who's skated these shoes to chime in and share their experiences. Anyways, let's get to it.

Project B.A. - Shoe Design by Brian Anderson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbpMDEVMHHs#)


SIZING & FIT
   This is one of the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. Not only are they surprisingly lightweight & cushy, but the breathability is insane. If I crack the AC in my car and lift my toes, I can feel the air flow throughout the entire shoe. Really cool stuff. These are easily the best "skate" shoe you can buy for walking around in, as I really can't imagine anything out there other than actual running shoes being better. Just overall an exceptionally comfortable shoe in all areas. This might sound weird but I'd say the sizing runs a quarter of a size big. I wear 10's and I've skated these in both 10's & 9.5's. I prefer to skate the 9.5's because I liked being able to really dig into that runner's toe when setting up for flip tricks, but it didn't feel like my foot was cramped at all. The 10's gave me a little extra space which was fine but not necessarily needed. I would say that if you have wide feet or prefer to have as much extra toe room as possible, get either your regular size or half a size up at most. If you want a more snug fit that feels more optimal for technical skating, (ledges, mannys, etc) I'd get half a size down like I did.


UPPER & SKATEABILITY
   As stated above, the shoe is very lightweight & ventilated and this is because the upper is actually fairly thin. It's quality suede, but it does feel a bit thinner than it looks in pictures online. It should be just durable enough for many, but if you skate flatground for 3 hours a day and do a million flip tricks I can imagine you'd start ripping some holes in there. The placement of the lace holes isn't all that great either, and if you lace them all the way up to the top, that first part of the lace up by your ankles will be the first to go. Also get ready to superglue the top seam of that panel with the swoosh on it if you do a ton of heelflips. It doesn't seem to be a superbly durable upper although it should be adequate for most if you don't do a lot more fliptricks than the average skater. If you ARE that guy that does a boatload of different flip tricks everyday, you might want to spend $90 on a different shoe that'll last for that type of skating.

 The outline of the toecap is a bit similar to a dunk as it's kind of rounded, but that runner's toe gives it somewhat of a pointy shoe feel. I like to use it as a guide for my flip tricks. Also my tre flips were REALLY good in this shoe as I would always think of just scraping that toe against the ground when I get that scoop, which worked very well for me. Overall it kind of has that early 2000's cupsole feel to it, just with more lightweight and modern materials.


INSOLE, MIDSOLE, and OUTSOLE
   Easily this shoe's biggest strength. The midsole is literally 75% lunarlon with only the top right corner where you flick being rubber. It's surprisingly lightweight while still being exceptional supportive. If you jump down a lot of shit then you really won't find a better sole for taking impact, I promise you. As far as breaking them in if you bend & flex the sole with your hands and walk around in them before skating them it should only take a couple good sessions to fully break in that lunarlon. In terms of boardfeel I'd say its comparable to the Emerica Reynold's bit just a tad better because the foam midsole will squish down a bit more after a while. If you skate a lot of cupsoles you should be fine but if you're strictly a vulc guy you'll definitely have an adjustment period if they don't just downright feel like boots to you.

The insole is the new ortholite lunarlon insert also seen in the P-Rod 7's. Cushy & comfortable but pretty thin and won't be the first line of defense for absorbing impact. That's pretty much all on the midsole, which works exceptionally well, but don't expect to put these in some other shoes and think you're gonna have that same amount of support. It's the actual midsole doing 90% of the work.

The outsole as a very deep and tire-like tread lines as which definitely make it built to last. I really like the grip it has that real rugged, "heavy-duty" feel to it. The back also seems good for those who frequently drag their heel to stop & the forefoot has deep flex lines so that's great too. Overall I really can't complain about anything. The ONE knock people might be able to make about the sole is the boardfeel, but like I said, if you frequently skate cup soles you'll be fine, and the absolute best foot support in skate shoes right now make it worth it.


Would Recommend for: Anyone who skates a lot of gaps and/or tranny, those who feel they need extra foot support, anyone interested buying an exceptionally comfortable "chill" shoe, and any DC Lynx fanatics

Would Not Recommend for: People who do a ton of fliptricks and those who feel they need the absolute most boardfeel at all times


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Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pencil on October 22, 2013, 10:22:08 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I KNEW YOU WOULDNT LEAVE LOL TIGHT
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 22, 2013, 10:22:45 AM
Be on the lookout for the New Balance Stratford review coming out in a couple hours. Also any feedback is much appreciated as obviously I'm trying something different and am willing to hear any advice, criticism, etc. in order to help make these as useful as possible
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on October 22, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
I highly doubt that BA is a cop. I could see Lizard King being undercover. That's totally what a cop attempting to fit in on Baker would dress like.
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pencil on October 22, 2013, 10:57:21 AM

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Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: The Nose Face on October 22, 2013, 12:11:44 PM
Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pencil on October 22, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 22, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
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Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
[close]

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol

haha I just wanted the name change. Any of the Pals who follow me know I was still skating & making music just as I always have. I just delayed the comeback cuz SLAP's been boring as hell with all these garbage ass threads & I just hadn't gotten around to writing up these 2 reviews.
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pencil on October 22, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
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Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
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Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
[close]

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol
[close]

haha I just wanted the name change. Any of the Pals who follow me know I was still skating & making music just as I always have. I just delayed the comeback cuz SLAP's been boring as hell with all these garbage ass threads & I just hadn't gotten around to writing up these 2 reviews.

we didnt question if you were still skating and making music, however that makes for a shitty answer. come on d00d act like youre bout that life and post something gangster or some shit like wtf pussy lol
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 22, 2013, 12:29:18 PM
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Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
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Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
[close]

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol
[close]

haha I just wanted the name change. Any of the Pals who follow me know I was still skating & making music just as I always have. I just delayed the comeback cuz SLAP's been boring as hell with all these garbage ass threads & I just hadn't gotten around to writing up these 2 reviews.
[close]

we didnt question if you were still skating and making music, however that makes for a shitty answer. come on d00d act like youre bout that life and post something gangster or some shit like wtf pussy lol

umm...I fucked some chick in the meantime? i dunno what you were expecting ive never been gangster im like, the living definition of a lightskin nigga lol.
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pencil on October 22, 2013, 01:09:38 PM
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Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
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Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
[close]

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol
[close]

haha I just wanted the name change. Any of the Pals who follow me know I was still skating & making music just as I always have. I just delayed the comeback cuz SLAP's been boring as hell with all these garbage ass threads & I just hadn't gotten around to writing up these 2 reviews.
[close]

we didnt question if you were still skating and making music, however that makes for a shitty answer. come on d00d act like youre bout that life and post something gangster or some shit like wtf pussy lol
[close]

umm...I fucked some chick in the meantime? i dunno what you were expecting ive never been gangster im like, the living definition of a lightskin nigga lol.

thats funny cuz i always pictured you as j cole
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Sleazy on October 22, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
did you write that? i thought you usually talked with a lot of forced slang. your post usually read like a reporter trying to sound down when interviewing cam'ron but that read normal.
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Aatila on October 22, 2013, 04:13:48 PM
yes! he's back!
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: SEAN PABLO on October 22, 2013, 05:14:28 PM
WOW YOU GUYS R FUCKED
Title: Re: COP OR NOT?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: sleepypancakes on October 24, 2013, 08:56:17 PM
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Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=73833.msg2017847#msg2017847 date=1382469104
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Will - you can't just come back after focusing without some type of press release and be like "oh hey guys, check out my shoe review".

The public needs to know what happened.
[close]

we fell into his trap
cuz will a trap star lol
[close]

haha I just wanted the name change. Any of the Pals who follow me know I was still skating & making music just as I always have. I just delayed the comeback cuz SLAP's been boring as hell with all these garbage ass threads & I just hadn't gotten around to writing up these 2 reviews.
[close]

we didnt question if you were still skating and making music, however that makes for a shitty answer. come on d00d act like youre bout that life and post something gangster or some shit like wtf pussy lol
[close]

umm...I fucked some chick in the meantime? i dunno what you were expecting ive never been gangster im like, the living definition of a lightskin nigga lol.
[close]

thats funny cuz i always pictured you as j cole
Really? Cause I kind of see him more as like a Drake.
(http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/stylus/1299899-drake-black-suit-617-409.jpg)
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 24, 2013, 09:42:37 PM
copped. so far i am just wearing these to work (i teach so i stand up for over 4-5 hours a day) and they are fucking amazingly comfortable. I love the arch- my arch tends to give me some problems especially on the foot i push with. right now im skating the prod7's and the BA's have a thicker sole compared to them. really look forward on skating them

Good Review sk8dood - i love doing heel flips so im gonna glue the seem around the heel flip area
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 25, 2013, 12:24:25 AM
copped. so far i am just wearing these to work (i teach so i stand up for over 4-5 hours a day) and they are fucking amazingly comfortable. I love the arch- my arch tends to give me some problems especially on the foot i push with. right now im skating the prod7's and the BA's have a thicker sole compared to them. really look forward on skating them

Good Review sk8dood - i love doing heel flips so im gonna glue the seem around the heel flip area

Thanks man glad you like it! I would just say you might want to wait until you actually split the seam there before superglueing it. There've been times where I've glued a shoe early & it seemed like it made it wear down faster for some reason. Might just be a fluke or something, but I figured I should tell you. Don't wait too long of course but if I'd probably wait til you can get a finger in there like in the pic




Really? Cause I kind of see him more as like a Drake.
(http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/stylus/1299899-drake-black-suit-617-409.jpg)

If I have to hear one more goddamn Drake comparison...

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Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 26, 2013, 05:11:56 AM
Dood i found these yesterday in a shop an i tried them on... I usually use a 9 (in janoskis, blazers, g-codes) but they only had the 8.5 and 9.5... The 9.5 was enormous (as i expected) and the 8.5 was a little small... Do you think they stretch a bit or should i try the 9 first? What size do you skated? the mid size down or the true to size? I am always super scarred with sizes because i've bought so many wrong sizes before and i dont wanna that to happen in a shoe so expensive like the BA's!  :-\
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on October 26, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
Depends on how small the 8.5's feel to you. If your foot feels cramped then I'd just wait & get them in a 9. how tight the laces are does play a part in how they fit because they got those little fingers towards middle-top so I'd try on those 8.5's again after loosening the laces and see how that feels. This isn't really a shoe where you want a ton of extra toe room because you'll wanna dig in to that runners toe but at the same time it shouldn't feel cramped at all. I normally wear 10s & the 10s I skated in these were OK but were a tad too big whereas the 9.5 felt perfect for me. I feel like the fit for these should feel unquestionably good so if the 8.5 & 9.5 feel iffy to you then you might just wanna wait til you can find some in 9's
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 26, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
Depends on how small the 8.5's feel to you. If your foot feels cramped then I'd just wait & get them in a 9. how tight the laces are does play a part in how they fit because they got those little fingers towards middle-top so I'd try on those 8.5's again after loosening the laces and see how that feels. This isn't really a shoe where you want a ton of extra toe room because you'll wanna dig in to that runners toe but at the same time it shouldn't feel cramped at all. I normally wear 10s & the 10s I skated in these were OK but were a tad too big whereas the 9.5 felt perfect for me. I feel like the fit for these should feel unquestionably good so if the 8.5 & 9.5 feel iffy to you then you might just wanna wait til you can find some in 9's

yeah i'll wait for a 9 and compare the sizes... Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 02, 2013, 02:42:55 PM
DaSk8D00D,

Great review.  Did you like these over the Prod 7's or the Reynolds?  I had a ton of fun going back to vulcs for a few months with the Vincents and now the Provosts but my feet and knees are killing me.
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on November 02, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
DaSk8D00D,

Great review.  Did you like these over the Prod 7's or the Reynolds?  I had a ton of fun going back to vulcs for a few months with the Vincents and now the Provosts but my feet and knees are killing me.

Nah I wouldn't say I like them over the P-Rod's but thats more of a personal preference thing. They're all quality shoes for sure tho. P-Rod's have the most boardfeel out of all of them & feel like the best "all-around" shoe but the BA's & Reynolds provide just a little more support (BA's have the most with the lunarlon midsole) with about the same amount of boardfeel. The one thing I really liked most about the BA's was the runner's toe, It really felt good to do tre's in. really you can't go wrong with any of those 3 shoes, it just comes down to preference.

P-Rod's provide solid foot support with more boardfeel for all-around skating
Reynolds mids have the best ankle support with higher collar with slightly better foot support but less boardfeel
BA's are the most lightweight, most comfortable, and most supportive for your foot, but are much less durable than the other 2 because the upper's so thin, and the boardfeel is about the same as the reynolds, but the sole is a tad flexier
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 03, 2013, 05:06:53 PM
Thanks Will/D00D!
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: morningpost on November 05, 2013, 10:36:03 AM
Definitely trying these next.
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: J.R. on November 23, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
This review was definitely on point Will. I definitely agree with you on the half a size down sentiment, since I had to do the same as you & get the 9.5 instead of my usual 10 that I wear in most other Nike shoes. I like doing more flat ground than the average skateboarder, so I was concerned with the durability. Fortunately, home remedies of shoe goo or super glue hold you down right and keep the shoe alive. It definitely holds more water than the average cup sole, which I like since I'm basically cup sole only. Have you tried the Lunar Gato yet? They're sick too, and the suede is a tad beefier than the Project B.A. and has reinforcement in key areas to keep them lasting.

The Zoom F.P. and the Nike FC are probably my two favorite shoes to skate in & I think the Project B.A. and Lunar Gato have made the list as of recent.

I see you on some real shit too, I'm basically light skinned also.
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: Nigga on December 16, 2013, 03:35:43 PM
ayo will, just letting you know, I just bought these based on this review. good shit stay trappin
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: _aminal on December 16, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
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Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: foureyedjim on December 16, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
I wearing a pair right now in my normal size and I'd also say go half a size down if you want a perfect fit.  Since I won't be skating in them my normal size is ok
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: pica on December 16, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
i wore them for a week and it resulted in insane knee pain. i guess it has something to do with the high heel, the low arch and my fucked up feet.
Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: dask8d00d on December 16, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
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Title: Re: Cop or Not?: Nike SB Project BA (review)
Post by: foureyedjim on December 16, 2013, 08:52:03 PM
forgot to mention that my one gripe about the shoe is the pull tab in the back.  I have the same issue with the Adidas busenitz heel collar in that they both lift up my pants in the back, making them all bunched up in the front.

I'm thinking of just cutting them off then melting the rest so it doesn't fray.